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| 00:42.08 | electroglue | Is there a such thing as a system wide proxy? |
| 00:42.50 | electroglue | A place where I can set the proxy once and all other things will respect it? |
| 00:43.31 | jordanm | electroglue: most applications will respect the "http_proxy" environment variable |
| 00:43.48 | electroglue | jordanm: yes I get that but at the same time some don't |
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| 00:44.12 | electroglue | jordanm: I'm just looking to set it once and make all traffic use it. |
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| 01:00.35 | tobiasBora | trickshotjohnny: Thank you ! Do you have any clue of what is bInterfaceClass, bInterfaceSubClass and bInterface protocol ? For two different products are they supposed to have the same value or is it dependent of the device ? |
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| 01:16.06 | toogy | i want to install this https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/340.65-2 |
| 01:16.10 | toogy | i downloaded the tarball |
| 01:16.13 | toogy | how do i do it? |
| 01:16.34 | toogy | there's nothing to make |
| 01:16.35 | abrotman | install it where? |
| 01:16.37 | toogy | some .in files all around |
| 01:16.45 | toogy | on a debian jessie machine |
| 01:16.46 | abrotman | toogy: on which OS? |
| 01:16.47 | Doxin | so as the day progresses my computer keeps getting slower and slower. to the point where scrolling my browser is just agony. top isn't showing anything odd, and the load is <0.5. what could possibly be going on? |
| 01:16.53 | abrotman | toogy: Jessie has the same version ... |
| 01:17.01 | toogy | apt-get can't find it |
| 01:17.08 | abrotman | dpkg: tell toogy about non-free |
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| 01:17.13 | abrotman | dpkg: tell toogy about nvidia |
| 01:17.14 | somiaj | Doxin: check your memeory. Is your system filling up with memeory and using swap (this will cause a system to run very slow) |
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| 01:17.42 | Doxin | somiaj: nothing seems to be using more than a couple % of memory according to top |
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| 01:18.06 | t4nk406 | hi, I have problems with GLX (nvidia) in Debian SID |
| 01:18.08 | somiaj | Doxin: what matters is total memeory ussage, under top look near the top, is swap using any memory? |
| 01:18.58 | Doxin | somiaj: I'll check next time it happened. I just rebooted. |
| 01:19.25 | Doxin | somiaj: even so, what could possibly be using 8gigs of ram? |
| 01:19.51 | t4nk406 | hi,I have problems with GLX (nvidia) in Debian SID, any ideas where to start? |
| 01:20.12 | somiaj | Doxin: memory leaks. Basically if your memory gets filled up the machine can get very slow taking time to put memeory on the swap parttion. If this isnt' the issue, other things that can cause slowness are the io bus being backed up. You can also check dmesg to look for other issues. |
| 01:20.42 | Doxin | somiaj: I know what memory leaks are, it'd have to be a pretty massive hemorrhage though, not something subtle. |
| 01:20.45 | t4nk406 | #glxinfo, Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". |
| 01:21.32 | somiaj | Doxin: yea, I'm just saying things to check that could be slowing down the machine despite it not being cpu |
| 01:21.40 | Doxin | hmm |
| 01:21.55 | somiaj | Doxin: if you ned up using the i/o bus to read/write tot he disk alot this slows thigns down. Using up all your memeory and then using swap cause this to happen. |
| 01:22.03 | Doxin | hmm |
| 01:22.11 | somiaj | t4nk406: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 01:22.30 | somiaj | t4nk406: see what is happeneing with the nvidia driver. Also make sure it isn't some gcc5 issue. Unsure how this will effect the non-free driver. |
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| 01:22.52 | t4nk406 | yes, i did that, let me copy and paste the part when XORG load the glx module |
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| 01:24.38 | t4nk406 | how can I put a new line here? |
| 01:25.46 | t4nk406 | (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 340.93 Wed Aug 19 16:23:51 PDT 2015 (II) Applying OutputClass "nvidia" to /dev/dri/card0 loading driver: nvidia (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0 (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1 (==) |
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| 01:26.21 | somiaj | t4nk406: you should probabaly paste your whole Xorg.0.log at paste.debian.net |
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| 01:27.16 | t4nk406 | ok, let me see it |
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| 01:30.56 | t4nk406 | like this? https://paste.debian.net/315848/ |
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| 01:33.45 | trickshotjohnny | tobiasBora: interface class and interface subclass are device types and subtypes, and interface is probably some bus specific information. try http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/devclass_docs/ and http://www.usb.org/developers/defined_class for more info |
| 01:34.05 | somiaj | t4nk406: the errors don't appear to be nvidia related, look for the EE lines. They are errors I don't recongize, but input/output error sometimes means corrupted file or something is nto able to read/write correclty |
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| 01:36.45 | dougl | I am using raspbian but my problem is with apt-get... what ever I try to install it always says cannot find installation candidate - any thots? |
| 01:37.12 | tobiasBora | trickshotjohnny: Ok thank you. Do you know if there is a command line to find their value ? |
| 01:37.13 | themill | dougl: that's definitely a question for #raspbian |
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| 01:38.12 | dougl | themill, nice thot... |
| 01:38.17 | dougl | any others? |
| 01:38.40 | t4nk406 | hi,I have problems with GLX (nvidia) in Debian SID, any ideas where to start? |
| 01:38.47 | bazhang | #raspbian <--- dougl |
| 01:39.05 | themill | dougl: you have a problem with raspbian and this is #debian; it's not just a nice thought, it's really the final answer we can give. |
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| 01:40.58 | dougl | and oh so friendly too... I would think debian power users a valued resource since raspbian is a derivative of debian but I can feel a slamming door even over irc - sorry to waste your time. |
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| 01:41.23 | themill | dougl: umm, it's not about friendliness or otherwise. There's simply nothing we can do to help. |
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| 01:42.50 | dougl | t4nk406, what drivers are you using? |
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| 01:43.45 | trickshotjohnny | tobiasBora: apt-get source linux, I don't know anything else that'll tell you for sure. |
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| 01:45.39 | tobiasBora | trickshotjohnny: Ok thank you ^^ |
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| 01:46.10 | t4nk406 | nvidia 340.93 from the repo |
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| 01:47.14 | t4nk406 | it was working yesterday, a big upgrade today morning, GLX problem |
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| 01:50.25 | kaak | I'm automating the building a debian source package on a CI server and I'm searching for a sane way to append the build number to the package version (under debian/changelog) |
| 01:50.45 | kaak | are there any environment variables I can pass dpkg-buildpackage and/or debuild? |
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| 01:51.43 | kaak | or should I just use dch to dynamically generate/update the changelog before the build? |
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| 01:55.03 | themill | kaak: dch is quite scriptable; I assume you don't want an rapidly growing changelog through |
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| 01:55.44 | themill | kaak: if you're using sbuild to do the actual building, then it has an option to make a changelog entry with a version appended |
| 01:55.52 | t4nk406 | nobody here knows how to fix a GLX problem? |
| 01:55.55 | kaak | themill, yeah, I'm mostly of the mindset that changelog has no purpose in my use case. The commit history is my change log |
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| 01:56.13 | kaak | other than setting the version that is |
| 01:56.46 | themill | kaak: I guess you'll be able to export then change changelog then build |
| 01:57.12 | themill | but yeah, sbuild --append-to-version=string is the nicest way of doing this |
| 01:57.43 | kaak | themill, thanks! |
| 01:58.20 | themill | (if you're not already using sbuild to deal with the clean build environment and make a nice build log, you might like to look at it) |
| 01:59.12 | kaak | themill, I've got all my build environments in docker containers, and have some thing make wrappers that help me build in them. |
| 01:59.34 | kaak | makes it very nice to update and synchronize build environment changes |
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| 02:02.32 | themill | I find it hard to get excited about that... that's what sbuild and a chroot has been doing for over a decade. I'm pretty sure you can make sbuild poke the build into a docker environment anyway (it can talk to a number of different sorts of build containers) |
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| 02:04.15 | kaak | yeah, I can understand that. I used sbuild for quite awhile with schroot and was pretty happy. |
| 02:05.19 | themill | kaak: I recall discussion about sbuildâdocker glue. paultag will have been involved if that makes it easier to search for :) |
| 02:05.21 | kaak | for me, docker was the next step beyond schroot. but it's not to everyones tastes. |
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| 02:07.32 | t4nk406 | someone who knows how to fix a GLX problem? |
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| 02:15.46 | t4nk406 | someone who knows how to fix a GLX problem? |
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| 02:37.09 | blackula | Howdy. Been using Slackware for several years and decided to come over to Debian. Jessie seems great! No problems whatsoever. I like it! Very nice. |
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| 02:39.07 | dvs | blackula: Sorry, you can't come in here without a problem. ;-) |
| 02:39.16 | blackula | :-) |
| 02:39.30 | blackula | good one :-) |
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| 03:36.09 | user718693 | can anyone recommend a budget socket 1150 motherboard that Debian Jessie will work with without propietry/nonfree drivers? Dont need wifi. |
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| 03:45.48 | jordanm | user718693: would probably be difficult to find one that doesn't |
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| 08:40.44 | R1ck | themill: ow wait jessie is 8. Yes it has pam_tty_audit but it doesnt work |
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| 08:41.25 | R1ck | Oct 14 16:23:48 debian-jessie sshd[950]: pam_tty_audit(sshd:session): error setting current audit status: Invalid argument |
| 08:41.37 | R1ck | Oct 14 16:23:48 debian-jessie sshd[950]: error: PAM: pam_open_session(): Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session |
| 08:41.43 | R1ck | followed by a logout |
| 08:42.23 | _Fremen_ | hello |
| 08:42.41 | _Fremen_ | does debian have a single complete image for usb booting? |
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| 08:43.04 | _Fremen_ | like the unified version of those 5 DVDs (3 main and 2 update) |
| 08:43.06 | themill | _Fremen_: depends what you mean by complete and what you're actually trying to do |
| 08:43.21 | themill | R1ck: sounds like #778664 although there's no hint as to how to fix it |
| 08:43.22 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/778664 in libpam-modules (open): «pam_tty_audit: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-02-18; last modified: 2015-02-18. |
| 08:43.40 | R1ck | themill: yeah I found that too.. hence the question for alternatives :) |
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| 08:44.34 | _Fremen_ | themill: I want to create a bootable usb of debian that includes all of the data within those 5 DVDs |
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| 08:44.49 | themill | _Fremen_: There's not really a use case for that, so no. |
| 08:45.11 | _Fremen_ | themill: ok thanks |
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| 08:47.33 | Psyq | hey guys |
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| 08:54.21 | MrTopless | nginx or apache? |
| 08:54.58 | R1ck | mysql! |
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| 09:03.48 | thenewone | Hi guys |
| 09:03.53 | thenewone | what is the best firewall for debian ? |
| 09:05.06 | patter | there's only iptables. people may have made GUI interfaces, but they'll all use iptables |
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| 09:05.33 | thenewone | ok thanks |
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| 09:05.53 | tespio | thenewone: i think the answer to your question might be rather subjective. You may take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls. But as patter said they would be using iptables and it is as good as you make it. Unless you opt for a hardware based firewall (which may also be using iptables afterall) |
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| 09:10.42 | Jubei | guys anybody know how to interpred this line? http://codepad.org/7sepGgbb |
| 09:10.54 | Jubei | does that say that python is listening on port 58846 ? |
| 09:11.22 | RoyK | yes, with pid 25015 |
| 09:11.34 | Jubei | RoyK: I see. thank you. |
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| 09:16.08 | tespio | Jubei: That would be deluge client written in python if i am not wrong |
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| 09:16.30 | Jubei | tespio: yes. I'm currently trying to figure out why even though I kill it, it keeps running |
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| 09:16.50 | Jubei | tespio: I downgraded from a ppa version of deluge to the standard debian jessie version and all hell broke loose |
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| 09:17.25 | tespio | Jubei: well purge it then :) |
| 09:17.35 | Jubei | tespio: purge? |
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| 09:17.46 | Jubei | btw deluged status now gives me this: http://codepad.org/zAwIAsCv |
| 09:17.50 | tespio | Jubei i meant uninstall |
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| 09:18.03 | Jubei | tespio I'm afraid that will remove all my config/files etc |
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| 09:19.04 | tespio | Jubei: actually apt-get remove would preserve configuration files whiel apt-get purge will also delete them |
| 09:19.37 | tespio | Jubei: then again you could simply back them up before un/re/instaling deluge |
| 09:19.48 | Jubei | tespio: I guess so. |
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| 09:22.46 | thenewone | tespio, thanks man |
| 09:23.13 | tespio | thenewone: you welcome |
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| 09:55.13 | EmacsUser | slaps metaphysician around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 09:57.33 | apeexius | That's rude |
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| 10:01.37 | lubarch | hello my internet is not working, help me |
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| 10:03.49 | lubarch | hello my internet is not working, help me |
| 10:04.15 | ewew | lubarch Can you define what is not working ? |
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| 10:04.41 | apeexius | How are you tried turning it on and off again? |
| 10:04.48 | apeexius | Englishg |
| 10:05.23 | lubarch | ewew: i have ethernet cable pluged but it is not working |
| 10:05.29 | apeexius | #'@K |
| 10:05.49 | ewew | lubarch What is the output from ip addr ? |
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| 10:43.41 | sine` | ok so as a new debian wheezy user would i be right in thinking that because my flash player is not working even though installed its because it is an old version that the website does not support ? (but part of debians old but safe software policy) |
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| 10:44.26 | ewew | sine` Debian wheezy is oldstable. |
| 10:44.47 | sine` | so in order to get flash player working |
| 10:44.50 | sine` | i need to ? |
| 10:44.59 | sine` | drumrolls |
| 10:45.09 | ewew | sine` Try google-chrome |
| 10:45.10 | sine` | tscchhhh! |
| 10:45.16 | sine` | im running chromium |
| 10:46.24 | ewew | sine` do you have installed flash plugin nonfree ? |
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| 10:47.05 | sine` | yes |
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| 10:48.58 | ewew | sine` What steps did you make to install it ? https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 10:51.05 | ewew | sine` I suggest to move to debian jessie or try new version in vbox. |
| 10:51.23 | fmerges | hello, for jessie what is the recommended CHM file format viewer? gnochm nor chmsee seem to be available |
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| 10:55.37 | sine` | thanks ewew chromium is unsupported. im use iceweasel instead and my program is loading. ta for now. |
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| 10:56.31 | ewew | sine` But it warns you about insecurity of version. |
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| 10:57.12 | pksadiq | fmerges: apt-cache search gives me okular-extra-backends (Some KDE packages may be required) and xchm as supported packages. Anyway, don't anything about CHM, so no recommendations :-). |
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| 11:01.55 | DragonEmbers | Someone has put a start-up script somewhere on a debian box and I need to find it. It runs on boot. I can't find the script in /etc/init.d, in any crontabs or in any of the /etc/rc#.d folders. Any ideas where else it might be? |
| 11:02.13 | anev | hey, has anyone experienced problems with systemd where it crashes after prolonged period of system uptime and kills everything via SIGINT? |
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| 11:02.25 | anev | i'm running latest stable version of debian 8.0 jessie |
| 11:02.50 | ewew | DragonEmbers Boot with live CD. |
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| 11:04.11 | DragonEmbers | ewew, how is that going to help me find where the script is? its a non-malicious script, i just need to find out where it is running from to stop it for a few boot cycles |
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| 11:05.24 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: what does this script do? |
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| 11:05.41 | mycae | hi, im running debian jessie, and I am having some trouble writing a udev rule to execute a script on USB insertion |
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| 11:05.57 | DragonEmbers | starts a python script on boot for an RF transmitter/receiver |
| 11:06.21 | ewew | DragonEmbers Then it could be anywhere. It may be a file with name beggining with dot. |
| 11:06.36 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: which debian version is this? |
| 11:06.50 | DragonEmbers | jessie |
| 11:07.05 | ewew | DragonEmbers Did the user have a root priviledge ? |
| 11:07.08 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: something you've installed yourself? |
| 11:07.24 | DragonEmbers | nope, its run under a dedicated user account |
| 11:07.32 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: /etc/rc.local ? |
| 11:07.42 | DragonEmbers | and nope, it was installed by my predecessor |
| 11:07.45 | ewew | DragonEmbers look in /tmp |
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| 11:08.20 | ewew | DragonEmbers Check the folder where this user has access. |
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| 11:08.54 | DragonEmbers | ewew, thats most of the system. the account isnt locked down like it should be which would of made my life easier |
| 11:09.00 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: check /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ |
| 11:09.01 | mycae | I've written the following, on a debian jessie system. The udev rule never trigggers. udev --monitor shows the USB event occuring, but not if it is processing my custom rules file |
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| 11:09.02 | mycae | https://paste.debian.net/315882/ |
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| 11:10.12 | DragonEmbers | RoyK, empty. its not in rc# folders or init.d either |
| 11:10.39 | mycae | I also tried running udevadm control --reload-rules && udevadm trigger , but still no luck. |
| 11:10.52 | ewew | DragonEmbers If he was root he could put it anywhere or if he had group staff. Generally the script can run on fs with exec. |
| 11:11.02 | mycae | Is there any way to check if udev is actually parsing the rules file, and if it is rejecting it for any reason? |
| 11:11.05 | Jubei | guys I have a file.jpg which has a 770 permissions in a host. I do a secure ssh copy (scp) over to my debian box to a directory that has a different owner. The resulting copied file ends up having 750 permissions |
| 11:11.10 | Jubei | Is that normal? |
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| 11:11.34 | mycae | Jubei, use -p |
| 11:11.36 | ewew | Jubei This depends on umask setting. |
| 11:11.36 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: what about systemd? |
| 11:11.42 | mycae | Preserves modification times, access times, and modes from original file |
| 11:12.28 | Jubei | mycae you mean I should do scp -p ? Well to be honest I don't want the same permissions. I was just curious if that's the normal behavior. |
| 11:12.32 | DragonEmbers | RoyK, nope not there either |
| 11:12.35 | Jubei | ewew: can you please elaborate? The umask of the target dir? |
| 11:12.46 | mycae | Jubei, yes. scp wont preserve permissions without that |
| 11:13.05 | Jubei | mycae: thank you |
| 11:13.17 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: not sure, then. |
| 11:13.21 | ewew | Jubei https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html#_control_of_permissions_for_newly_created_files_umask |
| 11:13.41 | Jubei | ewew: thank you |
| 11:13.45 | DragonEmbers | RoyK, me neither.... scripts don't just magically start themselves so there must be something somewhere..... |
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| 11:14.13 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: does it stop the boot process or can you boot normally? |
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| 11:14.38 | DragonEmbers | RoyK: boots normally |
| 11:14.47 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: if you can boot, you can check which files this process has opened and do detective work that way |
| 11:15.02 | RoyK | lsof -p <pid> |
| 11:15.47 | ewew | DragonEmbers Check /etc/systemd/system and etc. |
| 11:16.19 | anev | DragonEmbers: https://abnevme.wordpress.com/2015/05/28/bluetooth-audio-player-using-a-raspberrypi/ |
| 11:16.26 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: if your predecessor has done his/her best to hide it, other things may have been hidden as well, so perhaps better reinstall :P |
| 11:18.31 | anev | ops, wrong chan. soz. |
| 11:18.52 | DragonEmbers | I don't think the intention was to hide it... it must be somewhere really obvious but i havnt a clue where... (not in inittab either) |
| 11:19.09 | ewew | DragonEmbers ls -la .* |
| 11:19.23 | patter | not specifically debian, is anyone handy with makefiles? http://pastebin.com/3tbU6161 "make" only runs the vendor target |
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| 11:21.22 | mycae | patter : change it to "all: vendor migrate seed" |
| 11:21.25 | pksadiq | DragonEmbers: If you have any cue about the filename, you may try `locate filename' after `updatedb', may be like `locate .py'. |
| 11:21.29 | mycae | ? |
| 11:22.00 | mycae | ie on one lien |
| 11:22.21 | Jubei | it's still unclear to my if umask is defined per user, per.. process.. per.. directory? |
| 11:22.24 | Jubei | to me* |
| 11:22.42 | DragonEmbers | pksadiq, i have a "grep -r python /" running in a similar hope, still searching |
| 11:22.44 | mycae | I normally put all as the first target - it may be that all is just a convention, and it needs to go first |
| 11:22.51 | pksadiq | mycae: As far as I know, make runs the first target from the Makefile, which is `vendor' try to place 'all' at first. |
| 11:22.52 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: not a good idea :P |
| 11:22.52 | ewew | Jubei There is a system default. |
| 11:23.11 | patter | ohhh |
| 11:23.19 | Jubei | ewew: I just executed umask as a normal user (without sudo). Does that mean I changed it for the entire system? I have permission to do that? |
| 11:23.20 | patter | thought it was running make all |
| 11:23.21 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: that'll traverse /proc and grep through /proc/kcore, that's your memory ;) |
| 11:23.24 | mycae | pksadiq, ya :) |
| 11:23.35 | ewew | Jubei No. Only console you are on. |
| 11:23.45 | anexit | What are your thoughs on DMARC? |
| 11:23.47 | anexit | Junk? |
| 11:23.51 | DragonEmbers | RoyK... ive run out of ideas where it might be. (ive added some excludes for /proc /lib /include) |
| 11:24.09 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: did you lsof -p <pidofthatprocess> ? |
| 11:24.43 | DragonEmbers | RoyK, all it has open is the /dev/ttyAMA0 which is the antenna |
| 11:25.08 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: grep -r ttyAMA0 /etc |
| 11:25.13 | Jubei | ewew: so in order to define a umask for a process that's creating files in some dir? |
| 11:25.28 | Jubei | ewew: and that process is running under a different user than me |
| 11:25.37 | patter | mycae: thanks |
| 11:26.24 | ewew | Jubei I think easier is to change the permission on remote server with ssh. |
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| 11:26.40 | Jubei | ewew: I am logged in with ssh |
| 11:26.50 | Jubei | ewew: ah you mean, after I copied the files? |
| 11:26.58 | ewew | Jubei yes |
| 11:27.44 | Jubei | ewew: but I'm not currently talking about copying files, I have a process under a different username CREATING files in a directory. |
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| 11:28.29 | Jubei | and the question is how to define the umask those files are created under. In fact, that process is creating files in a subdirectory under my home dir. |
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| 11:31.02 | ewew | Jubei Not sure if it works this way. Just put on beggining or the script umask command with required value. |
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| 11:31.28 | Jubei | ewew: I see. I'll do some more searching. Thank you very much for the help! |
| 11:32.14 | patter | Jubei: could copy the files with rsync, that has a few preserve permissions options (and can use ssh) |
| 11:32.28 | DragonEmbers | fudge sake.... found it: /home/rfman/.config/autostart/ant.desktop |
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| 11:33.58 | ewew | DragonEmbers You did not expect it would be in hidden folder. |
| 11:34.06 | DragonEmbers | thanks for the help ewew, RoyK |
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| 11:34.41 | DragonEmbers | ewew, i did not expect it to be in the user folder, as best i can tell the user isn't set to auto-login |
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| 11:35.58 | ewew | DragonEmbers It should be seen in autostart manager in GUI ? |
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| 11:36.17 | RoyK | DragonEmbers: I thought this was a server |
| 11:36.43 | ewew | In general search everywhere user has access. |
| 11:36.51 | ewew | write access, |
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| 11:37.13 | DragonEmbers | @RoyK its a stand-alone headless desktop |
| 11:37.37 | ubikite | hi, does anybody knows a chart/document compares the feature sets of open-source configuration management systems? |
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| 11:39.14 | bazhang | libreoffice ubikite |
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| 11:43.31 | sine` | 2 deb boxes on local, 'nc -l 2222' on one box, yet i cant 'nc box2 2222' connetion refused. ufw installed and 2222 allowed like the other working ports |
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| 11:52.07 | Iridos | sine`, there are two different types of netcat in the repo... bsd and traditional. their syntax ddiffers, check which one you're using and if nc -l 2222 is valid for that one |
| 11:52.10 | sine` | hmm seems like it would not let me create a port smaller than 5 digits |
| 11:52.27 | sine` | I have it working from a local tmux split pane, so now im going to try over the net |
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| 11:54.50 | sine` | k finally got it working, thanks for info about that one :D |
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| 11:57.43 | sine` | could you see why the ports lower than 5 digits would not work ? |
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| 12:02.13 | paranoids | Hi |
| 12:02.13 | paranoids | Following scenario: |
| 12:02.13 | paranoids | KVM host Ubuntu 14.04 |
| 12:02.13 | paranoids | KVM guest Debian Jessie |
| 12:02.13 | paranoids | Debian with 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel has high cpu load on one of our webserver: |
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| 12:06.00 | sine` | in the command line when i listen a netcat and connect after i disconnect it quits, is there a way to create a loop so that it continues to listen or restarts ? |
| 12:06.11 | sine` | im sure there would be some real bash skill trickery going on |
| 12:06.34 | paranoids | hi should i file a new bug? |
| 12:06.35 | paranoids | http://pastebin.com/cEwxePuL |
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| 12:07.04 | korhojoa | sine`: define an alias, where you call netcat, then call it again with && after it completes |
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| 12:07.53 | sine` | korhojoa: but that only does it twice right ? |
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| 12:08.35 | korhojoa | well, look at a fork bomb |
| 12:08.39 | korhojoa | do that, but don't fork |
| 12:08.40 | korhojoa | :D |
| 12:09.00 | sine` | I dont know what forking is, thats like splitting a process thread or soemthing |
| 12:09.06 | korhojoa | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb |
| 12:09.17 | RoyK | paranoids: try #virt on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:09.28 | paranoids | ok thanks |
| 12:09.30 | korhojoa | look at the "defusing"-part |
| 12:09.42 | chairdog | :(){ :|: & };: |
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| 12:13.47 | sine` | hmm I do not understand the syntax yet |
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| 12:14.49 | korhojoa | just as an example: netcatty(){ nc -l 22222 ; netcatty };netcatty " should keep your thing running |
| 12:14.59 | korhojoa | whoops, extraneous " there |
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| 12:16.33 | sine` | so if i paste that on the command line that will create an alais and also call it at the end |
| 12:16.42 | sine` | will i be able to ctrl+c |
| 12:17.21 | chairdog | don't think "nc -l 222" is necessory, it already is a recursive function |
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| 12:18.14 | chairdog | try it and you will know :) |
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| 12:19.00 | chairdog | i think in this case ctrl+c may work |
| 12:19.12 | sine` | i have been trying it, it closes after i disconnect from it |
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| 12:19.47 | chairdog | but ctrl+c may not work on ":(){ :|: & };:" |
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| 12:20.32 | ewew | sine` Put it in inetd. |
| 12:22.07 | sine` | ewew: what you mean a command or the alias |
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| 12:22.33 | ewew | sine` https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inetd |
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| 12:24.03 | RoyK | !xinetd |
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| 12:32.16 | Challenger | I recently deleted my Debian system partitions from the HDD. I then made the boot USB as usual, included the firmware packages I required and tried to boot up Netinstall ISO. To my realization, it boots to the grub prompt which isn't helping. |
| 12:32.52 | Challenger | Question on Debian forums: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=125221 |
| 12:33.05 | ewew | Challenger Run rescue mode and install grub in the right place. |
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| 12:37.33 | Challenger | @ewew Let me try. |
| 12:38.07 | ewew | Challenger with installer cd. |
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| 13:40.14 | Sendoushi | hey guys. trying to pass my webcam to virtualbox windows. i'm using debian + fluxbox. virtualbox doesn't detect device but skype does... ideas? |
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| 13:40.53 | ewew | Sendoush Try to ask in irc channel #vbox |
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| 13:41.57 | Sendoushi | ok but it seems to me to be a problem of debian |
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| 13:54.01 | SweetKatya | hi. I want a how-to on ksplice. how do i use it? |
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| 13:54.16 | SweetKatya | how can I use it i mean? |
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| 13:55.24 | SweetKatya | ok |
| 13:55.33 | SweetKatya | I have to go home |
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| 14:15.43 | julius | hi |
| 14:16.07 | julius | update-flashplugin-nonfree --status says theres a never flash version available...but update-flashplugin-nonfree --install just exits without any output....how come=? |
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| 14:22.26 | Iridos | julius, they're all human-readable scripts, so you can find out |
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| 14:24.12 | julius | yeah, it calls perl internally |
| 14:24.16 | julius | im waiting for a update |
| 14:24.50 | Iridos | it gets "current version" from https://get.adobe.com/de/flashplayer/ |
| 14:25.00 | Iridos | perl scripts are also human-readable |
| 14:25.04 | Iridos | well, a lot of them |
| 14:25.26 | Iridos | but it downloads from http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/D5C0FC14/ |
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| 14:26.06 | Iridos | wait, it downloads a pgp signature from that url |
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| 14:27.10 | Iridos | and of those signatures, the newest is fp.11.2.202.521.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc |
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| 14:27.43 | Iridos | and hence that is installed instead of 11.2.202.535 |
| 14:27.53 | n8w | hey guys, anyone havin an experience with firewalld? |
| 14:28.15 | shawn | Iridos: what do you mean by parse |
| 14:28.24 | shawn | i never said anything like that |
| 14:28.59 | shawn | did i say "grep pattern $(which nano)" ? |
| 14:30.44 | Iridos | shawn, ah... the guy you told it and I both read it that way, though (but I see you clarified it to him) |
| 14:30.49 | Iridos | told it to* |
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| 14:31.20 | joseph_86 | why are there two spaces in debian/changelog file between maintainer name (email) and date? |
| 14:31.23 | joseph_86 | https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html |
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| 14:32.07 | shawn | i was trying to get him to switch to a different shell in case there was something messed up about his environment that was causing it to not be fount. but he was just derping the command |
| 14:32.19 | jelly | joseph_86: eh... does it matter, really? |
| 14:32.38 | joseph_86 | jelly: it doesn't, but i was asking me this for ages |
| 14:33.01 | jelly | you and me both |
| 14:33.28 | jelly | just puts two spaces or uses dch |
| 14:33.34 | Iridos | may I offer my guess? |
| 14:33.41 | Iridos | you can have single spaces in your email |
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| 14:33.54 | jelly | it's a unique separator? |
| 14:34.54 | Iridos | like... "joe some bloke <joe.some.bloke@nsamail.gov>" or whatever |
| 14:35.23 | Iridos | and so it's more convenient to separate the date with two spaces? |
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| 14:36.47 | jelly | and you have single spaces in the date, too |
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| 14:36.55 | Iridos | true |
| 14:37.37 | Iridos | so that sounds like a good reason... of course, you could have some other separator, too... but there's a lot of stuff that is valid to have in an email address |
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| 14:51.28 | jhutchins | There are multiple RFCs that sepecify address formats, including inter-system addresss conversion. A lot of it is covered in teh sendmail docs and book. |
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| 15:01.25 | nname31 | How to set Monday as the first day of the week in GNOME Calendar |
| 15:01.31 | nname31 | i give |
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| 15:01.44 | nname31 | How to set Monday as the first day of the week in GNOME Calendar |
| 15:01.57 | nname31 | oups |
| 15:02.02 | nname31 | nano /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_US |
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| 15:03.00 | nname31 | restart pc but dnot change |
| 15:03.16 | nname31 | ??? |
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| 15:04.20 | nname31 | any help??? |
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| 15:11.27 | brad[] | Hi all, I have some rudimentary questions about the way Debian uses PGP if anyone can answer these - how are the various repository master keys managed? If the Debian developer managing that key (say, for cdimage) retires, what happens to it? Is it revoked? |
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| 15:12.22 | abrotman | you mean for the ftp-master keys? |
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| 15:18.25 | GnikLlort | qjqqyy, hi |
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| 15:40.28 | brad[] | abrotman: Sure, that's a good example |
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| 15:40.51 | brad[] | What happens to those keys when whoever manages ftp-master retires? |
| 15:40.55 | jelly | everyone's cycling |
| 15:41.08 | dondelelcaro | everybody was /cycle /cycle... |
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| 15:44.29 | DammitJim | how do I get invited to #debian-next ? |
| 15:44.41 | jelly | DammitJim: first, you connect to irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:44.51 | DammitJim | oh, oftc.net thanks |
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| 15:45.45 | fc4 | hi |
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| 15:50.17 | sine` | can anyone remember the setting in the bash file which allows for PG to scroll and auto complete previous bash entries? |
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| 15:52.27 | srg | pychess was removed from testing. Anyone know of another good chess program? |
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| 16:00.56 | totallynotjelly | !qotd0 |
| 16:00.56 | dpkg | <HostilePenguin> your smarter |
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| 16:04.57 | phuzion | I've got a basic question about packaging. Do packagers for Debian upload the .debs themselves or are the .debs created on an automated build system of some sort? |
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| 16:10.03 | Brigo | phuzion, you have to upload one version usually amd64 or i386 and then the other are compiled from there. |
| 16:10.21 | Brigo | others |
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| 16:12.12 | Brigo | phuzion, anyway, the best place for packaging questions is #debian-mentors channel, in OFTC network. |
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| 16:12.32 | phuzion | Brigo: Thanks :) |
| 16:12.39 | Brigo | phuzion, yw :) |
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| 16:16.48 | echo | srg, stockfish chess engine + glchess or front end of your choice. |
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| 16:24.36 | srg | echo: yeah, that's what I was asking - the front end. I used stockfish as the engine in pychess, but pychess was removed. I'll check out glchess. |
| 16:24.55 | Mac101 | Hi |
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| 16:25.52 | Mac101 | I have plymouth installed along with a luks crypted root and would like to change the unlock message, anyone know how to? |
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| 16:26.04 | Linnak | hi what's the difference between these two repos? deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main |
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| 16:28.34 | srg | Linnak: security.debian.org is security updates. |
| 16:28.40 | srg | httpredir is the general release mirror. |
| 16:28.57 | srg | It's a "smart" redirector to the closest mirror for what youw ant. |
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| 16:29.28 | srg | Linnak: You should typically have two entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list - security updates and general release updates |
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| 16:31.12 | Linnak | srg thank you |
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| 16:34.13 | Linnak | srg I stable release main repo is frozen yes. The updates are fresh or just the security updates are fresh? |
| 16:34.25 | Linnak | *I = In |
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| 16:36.01 | greycat | Linnak: in a stable Debian release, nothing changes except security fixes and other major bug fixes. |
| 16:36.17 | Linnak | Than what is updates for? |
| 16:36.30 | Linnak | so for bug fixes? |
| 16:36.31 | srg | "other major bug fixes" |
| 16:36.41 | srg | yeah |
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| 16:41.19 | Linnak | Clear enough |
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| 16:42.33 | Linnak | I have always dubts which release to use for desktop? Testing or sid or testing with sid repos as well? |
| 16:42.40 | Linnak | doubts |
| 16:42.51 | greycat | I use stable. |
| 16:42.55 | Brigo | Linnak, why not jessie? |
| 16:43.01 | Brigo | i think is what you should use. |
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| 16:43.24 | Silmarilion | Hi how can I disable system "beeps"? |
| 16:43.34 | Linnak | There are lot of missing packages or dependencies on that for some software I need |
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| 16:43.51 | greycat | For the vast majority of people, stable + maybe some backports of key hardware-support packages should be the best choice. |
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| 16:46.35 | Linnak | How can I search in this? https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/ |
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| 16:46.36 | Muvlon | I'm using testing for desktop right now and it works splendidly. |
| 16:46.36 | greycat | ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 16:46.36 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:2.99.917-2; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2 |
| 16:46.36 | Linnak | I've got it |
| 16:46.36 | greycat | (Just one example that has come up recently.) |
| 16:46.36 | Linnak | for example there is no kodi in jessie-backports |
| 16:46.36 | Linnak | only in testing and sid |
| 16:46.58 | greycat | !kodi |
| 16:46.58 | dpkg | XBMC (formerly Xbox Media Center) is an open source media player application. XBMCbuntu and XBMC Live are Linux distributions based on <Ubuntu> containing XBMC, they are not supported in #debian. XBMC v13 ("Gotham") is available from <wheezy-backports>. XBMC will be renamed to Kodi for v14. http://xbmc.org/ #xbmc on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:48.18 | asdjsonyou | Using crumbs to protect your PHP API (Ajax) call from Cross-site request forgery (CSRF/XSRF) and other vulnerabilities. |
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| 17:01.08 | becks1 | ciao |
| 17:01.23 | becks1 | !list |
| 17:01.23 | dpkg | becks1: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 17:14.51 | jhutchins | ,v kodi |
| 17:14.52 | judd | Package: kodi on amd64 -- stretch: 15.1+dfsg1-3; sid: 15.1+dfsg1-3; sid: 15.2~rc1+dfsg1-1; sid: 15.2~rc3+dfsg1-1; jessie-multimedia: 5:14.2+repack-dmo1b1; sid-multimedia: 5:15.1-dmo2 |
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| 17:38.25 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 17:38.34 | marioxcc | Where can I find a list of mirros that accept HTTPS? |
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| 17:40.17 | marioxcc | Also: I tried to use https://security.debian.org/ (note HTTPS), but the certificate is not valid for that domain (only for debian.org, it seems), which makes apt fail. What can I do about this, while still using HTTPS? |
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| 17:40.44 | greycat | Why would you want https? So that you can't cache it? |
| 17:41.05 | marioxcc | greycat: Who can't cache it? My ISP? I'm paying for the bandwidth. |
| 17:41.38 | nebg | hello everyone if i have two interfaces connected to the internet |
| 17:41.59 | nebg | how can i understand from which interface i accessed an application ? |
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| 17:42.22 | marioxcc | HTTPS is better because it closes a possible way for attack. For example, an active attacker can't send a specially crafted fake package to exploit apt. |
| 17:42.42 | marioxcc | Take advantage of bugs that decode package information and so on. I know that packages are signed. |
| 17:42.50 | greycat | Well, there are no https mirros listed on http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 17:43.13 | greycat | And http is better because you can set up a local squid proxy and have all your Debian systems pull through it and get caching. |
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| 17:43.24 | marioxcc | greycat: Right. They are not listed as such, but some of them accept HTTPS. RIght now I'm using mirrors.kernel.org. |
| 17:43.35 | greycat | And your injection attack whatever is fixed by the package signatures. |
| 17:43.53 | marioxcc | greycat: Yes, you are right about local caching. However, there is only one Debian machine in my LAN. |
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| 17:44.35 | marioxcc | Also, there is a much more pragmatic reason to use HTTPS, which is that my ISP spoofs HTTP requests when the Internet connection fails, and that makes apt complain about a corrupted list. With HTTPS, that wouldn't happen. |
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| 17:46.19 | greycat | Ah, so the real reason is working around broken ISPs. Sorry. |
| 17:46.34 | marioxcc | greycat: No, both are real reasons. |
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| 17:49.10 | anddam | shouldn't a remove operation remove dependencies that are not needed anymore? I think something's wrong with this https://gist.github.com/anddam/acb087286717c73096b1 |
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| 17:49.48 | anddam | I mean those dependencies were literally installed seconds earlier *for* sylpheed, why doesn't a purge command remove those as well? |
| 17:50.11 | greycat | anddam: I believe that's what aptitude is intended for |
| 17:50.20 | greycat | anddam: if you use apt-get, then you want the autoremove command |
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| 17:55.23 | anddam | apt-get autoremove is only removing sylpheed and sylpheed-i19n |
| 17:55.26 | anddam | 18* |
| 17:55.33 | anddam | not the libs |
| 17:55.47 | anddam | is this bug or feature? I mean is it supposed to remove those or not? |
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| 18:06.13 | linuxd | http://paste.debian.net/315961/ ,how could I fix these errors? |
| 18:06.32 | anddam | greycat: still there? |
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| 18:06.49 | greycat | Yes, but if apt-get autoremove didn't do it then I don't have any answers. |
| 18:07.40 | MrDetonia | Anybody know how I might get a laptop to shut down properly? It's running Debian Testing, and doesn't shut down properly at all. The HDD spins down, and it seems to halt, but the main power light stays on and the display is frozen. The CPU fan also fires up at full speed now and again. The only way to turn it off is by a force power-off; holding the power button for 5secs. |
| 18:07.41 | anddam | linuxd: you should possibly reassign ownerships on those folders to the exim user, I guess 107:115 |
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| 18:08.07 | MrDetonia | Rebooting also puts it in a similar state, and it doesn't start back up |
| 18:08.21 | anddam | greycat: I mean, should have any of those two command (purge, autoremove) removed the dependencies and I've got an issue, or is it already working as expected? |
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| 18:09.20 | Algebr | I installed flash via apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and now I'm trying to upgrade with update-flashplugin-nonfree --install but the update-flashplugin-nonfree binary isn't on my system |
| 18:09.28 | linuxd | anddam: ok,what should be exim UID and GID permissions? |
| 18:09.39 | anddam | MrDetonia: what does the system log say? It's possibly an ACPI issue |
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| 18:09.53 | anddam | linuxd: as I said, from the uid and gid shown in log, I guess those are 107:115 |
| 18:10.00 | anddam | check passwd file |
| 18:10.10 | anddam | and exim's config |
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| 18:11.09 | own3dz | hi guys, what remote desktop protocol you use ? i'm on debian, apt packages here. |
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| 18:13.44 | linuxd | anddam: it worked,thanx a lot |
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| 18:17.23 | MrDetonia | anddam: I can find no obvious errors around times of shutdown.Last entry is "rsyslogd: [origin...] exiting on signal 15" |
| 18:17.32 | GNU\colossus | did anyone of you run the dspam antispam system on a wheezy install? it got removed from jessie, and I'm wondering what to replace it with :/ |
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| 18:20.19 | xanthippe | how do I install a .cer certificate? I put it into /usr/share/ca-certificates and ran update-ca-certificates but it seems to ignore them |
| 18:21.09 | anddam | MrDetonia: I'm not sure what it could be, I'd check ACPI support for my chipset and test it |
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| 18:31.29 | MrDetonia | anddam: forum thread reccomended installing acpi-support. However there are several current bugs to do with hdparm that sound damaging. What is hdparm, and should I not install for now? |
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| 18:34.45 | MrDetonia | read more about what hdparm is; onw of the listed bugs is a system startup freeze. Would hdparm be running at startup by default? |
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| 18:40.32 | kruug | huh...just installed Stretch Alpha 3, and during boot it's telling me that /etc/mtab isn't symlinked to /proc/self/mounts. Wasn't this a 2011 issue? |
| 18:40.38 | kruug | How do I fix it? |
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| 18:40.42 | Doxin | so over time my pc keeps getting slower and slower, but then a reboot fixes it. my load is below 0.5, and my swap usage is 0. what could possibly be causing this? |
| 18:40.44 | greycat | !debian-0next |
| 18:40.46 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 18:40.57 | greycat | crap, now the bot's angry |
| 18:41.13 | greycat | kruug: /msg dpkg debian-next |
| 18:41.43 | kruug | ah, so I need to not be in the #debian channel to talk debian...got it. |
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| 18:41.53 | kruug | in fact, I need to jump server because reasons |
| 18:42.55 | greycat | The "reasons" are "the Debian developers like it more over there". |
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| 18:43.05 | kruug | So, why aren't testing/unstable at www.debian-next.org as well? |
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| 18:44.25 | kruug | ah, right from their topic: Avoid stretch for a while if you don't like reporting bugs |
| 18:44.33 | kruug | Why not add that to this topic as well? |
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| 18:47.49 | MrDetonia | Would "[FAILED] Failed unmounting /run/rpc_pipefs" be causing issues with poweroff? |
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| 18:48.13 | bobbyr | hello #debian |
| 18:48.24 | Jesperhead | oh hi bobbye |
| 18:48.27 | bobbyr | I have a question regarding serial to USB devices |
| 18:48.29 | Jesperhead | bobbyr * |
| 18:48.54 | bobbyr | I have 24 serial devices that are being multiplexed via a USB hub |
| 18:49.12 | bobbyr | i am expecting each device to have a node in /dev |
| 18:49.29 | bobbyr | however, there seems to be a hard limit of 24 of these devices |
| 18:49.38 | bobbyr | err 14 |
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| 18:50.18 | bobbyr | I am plugging them in 8 at a time, but I am never able to see more than 14 ttyUSB* devices at once |
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| 18:50.51 | bobbyr | I have a centos machine with identical hardware, and that machine is creating nodes for 32 devices |
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| 18:51.19 | bobbyr | my question is, what component should I be looking at to debug this? |
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| 18:51.45 | bobbyr | and why would this hardware work on a centos machine but not a debian machine? |
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| 18:55.34 | markybob | bobbyr, i don't know. doubt they have the same kernel version. which kernels does each one use? |
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| 18:57.21 | bobbyr | centos is 2.6.something |
| 18:57.43 | bobbyr | the debian version is 3.16.0-4 |
| 18:57.49 | bobbyr | markybob ^^^ |
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| 18:58.14 | bobbyr | dmesg is saying "can't set config #1 error -12" |
| 18:58.23 | markybob | bobbyr, since no one seems to be responding and i'm not sure you might want to try irc.debian.org #debian |
| 18:58.35 | markybob | bobbyr, that's technically the official channel. |
| 18:58.41 | bobbyr | okie dokie |
| 18:58.43 | bobbyr | thanks a lot |
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| 19:04.38 | bobbyr | markybob looking at dmesg, I am getting an error reading "[ 9067.885589] usb 3-1.3.1.7.1: Not enough host controller resources for new device state." |
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| 19:05.22 | H4sty911 | have a question for you debian experts |
| 19:05.48 | ewew | bobbyr It is possibly hw limitation. |
| 19:05.54 | H4sty911 | can you upgrade the kernel w/ aptitude / apt-get ? or do you have to use a patch tool like quilt ? |
| 19:06.08 | greycat | You can install new kernel packages with apt-get, yes. |
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| 19:06.24 | bobbyr | ewew, i doubt it, i am using the same exact hardware to support many more ttyUSB devices |
| 19:06.45 | bobbyr | the only difference being one machine is running debian, and one is running centos |
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| 19:06.52 | greycat | H4sty911: if you're on stable and need newer kernels, /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:07.09 | H4sty911 | ok |
| 19:08.51 | bobbyr | some superuser postings have said that this issue could be xhci related |
| 19:09.11 | bobbyr | cant be sure though, the official debian channel is apparently full D; |
| 19:09.31 | markybob | bobbyr, i was just looking at that. sounds like you might have to recompile the kernel |
| 19:09.42 | bobbyr | that sounds like fun. |
| 19:11.05 | H4sty911 | greycat: thanks, what is the difference in backports and just doing a 'apt-get upgrade' for the kernel? |
| 19:11.06 | markybob | bobbyr, could be worse. at least it sounds like there's a fix |
| 19:11.11 | ewew | bobbyr x86 or amd64 ? |
| 19:11.31 | greycat | H4sty911: apt-get upgrade will only pick up security fixes and so on. You'll still be on the same kernel version. |
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| 19:12.02 | H4sty911 | greycat: so backports will update, for example, 2.6 to 2.8 ? |
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| 19:12.18 | ewew | bobbyr https://www.kernel.org/doc/menuconfig/drivers-net-can-Kconfig.html#CAN_SLCAN ? |
| 19:12.25 | greycat | ,kernels |
| 19:12.26 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-rc5-686-pae (4.3~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.3-2); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.1-2); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.1-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u5) |
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| 19:12.37 | greycat | H4sty911: jessie-backports has a 4.2.0 kernel. |
| 19:13.02 | H4sty911 | greycat: ok interesting, right now I'm still on wheezy for this server so trying to be very careful |
| 19:13.17 | greycat | Do you *need* a newer kernel? If so, why? |
| 19:13.45 | H4sty911 | greycat: not specifically but just want to make sure we have addressed all security patches, updates etc. |
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| 19:14.00 | greycat | Then do NOT use backports. That would be the opposite of getting security patches. |
| 19:14.16 | greycat | The backported kernels are not necessarily kept up to date with patches. |
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| 19:14.40 | greycat | They exist for people who require a newer kernel version for hardware compat. |
| 19:14.46 | H4sty911 | greycat: do you think apt-get upgrade would provide sufficient security updates from source ? |
| 19:15.05 | greycat | If you have security.debian.org in your sources, yes. |
| 19:15.23 | H4sty911 | greycat: i'm curious on the diff between just installing/upgrade packages vs manually patching w/ quilt.. |
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| 19:15.30 | H4sty911 | guessing quilt is overkill |
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| 19:16.27 | bobbyr | amd64 ewew |
| 19:16.30 | ewew | bobbyr The menuconfig documentation says it has 10 devices limit. |
| 19:18.00 | ewew | bobbyr It can be changed with kernel boot parameter. Im refering to documentation. Dont know if it works this way. |
| 19:18.22 | bobbyr | thanks a lot ewew, i am looking at the parameter now |
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| 19:18.30 | bobbyr | i hope that this is a fix |
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| 19:18.47 | ewew | bobbyr But i can not guarantee results. |
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| 19:19.01 | bobbyr | i don't expect you to, but it this is certainly a helpful start |
| 19:19.03 | bobbyr | thanks for that |
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| 19:24.15 | jhutchins | bobbyr: I've messed with this in the past and it works fine. |
| 19:24.37 | bobbyr | jhutchins, good to know |
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| 19:34.35 | bobbyr | ok so jhutchins |
| 19:34.39 | bobbyr | since you've done this before |
| 19:35.04 | bobbyr | im looking at my modules in /lib/modules/**/drivers/net/can |
| 19:35.38 | bobbyr | and I've found the slcan.ko file |
| 19:35.55 | bobbyr | i know that there is a maxdev param that i need to set for this module |
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| 19:36.09 | bobbyr | what i dont know is how to set it, or if it's even possible to set parameters |
| 19:36.12 | bobbyr | any insight? |
| 19:36.57 | greycat | bobbyr: for starters, rmmod slcan && modprobe slcan maxdev=whatever |
| 19:37.15 | greycat | if that works for you then we can try to figure out how to make that argument happen automatically |
| 19:37.36 | bobbyr | greycat, ok |
| 19:37.48 | bobbyr | another question, i have a virtualmachine that im trying this out with |
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| 19:37.57 | bobbyr | before i use it on my actual machine |
| 19:38.18 | bobbyr | will that have any impact on the results of this tinkering? shouldn't, right? |
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| 19:38.45 | greycat | I don't know what this module does, so I can't say. |
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| 19:40.06 | greycat | Lock and disable are the same thing, aren't they? |
| 19:40.16 | THE_GFR|WORK | greycat: I thought it was different? |
| 19:40.26 | greycat | What do you want to do that locking doesn't do? |
| 19:40.29 | MrDetonia | THE_GFR|WORK: What are you trying to acheive? |
| 19:40.57 | THE_GFR|WORK | I want the account disabled so no remote access via public key can connect to the account and login just disable the account |
| 19:41.04 | bobbyr | THE_GFR|WORK, why not just change the password? |
| 19:41.12 | greycat | Ah, because he's not USING passwords. |
| 19:41.22 | bobbyr | yeah, i see that now |
| 19:41.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | bobbyr: because I want the account and it has a password, I don't want the account active but I don't want to delete it |
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| 19:41.40 | greycat | "man usermod" says "Note: if you wish to lock the account (not only access with a password), you should also set the EXPIRE_DATE to 1." |
| 19:41.58 | THE_GFR|WORK | greycat: ah I see |
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| 19:42.23 | greycat | I've never tried that, though. |
| 19:42.27 | THE_GFR|WORK | greycat: I set the expire date to the past |
| 19:42.36 | mns | THE_GFR|WORK: usermod -e 1 -L username |
| 19:43.13 | THE_GFR|WORK | mns: thanks but how do I verify it? passwd -S username? |
| 19:43.32 | greycat | ultimately you verify it by attempting your ssh key login |
| 19:43.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | ok |
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| 19:44.15 | trickshotjohnny | THE_GFR|WORK: set the user's shell to either /bin/false or /sbin/nologin |
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| 19:44.28 | mns | THE_GFR|WORK: another way you could disable it is by setting the shell to he /bin/false or /sbin/nologin |
| 19:44.38 | greycat | that may break whatever he's using the disabled account for |
| 19:44.40 | mns | what trickshotjohnny's said. |
| 19:44.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | ok |
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| 19:48.30 | THE_GFR|WORK | thanks everyone |
| 19:48.41 | THE_GFR|WORK | I think I got it |
| 19:50.17 | jhutchins | THE_GFR|WORK: See also the denyusers and denygroups keywords in the sshd_config file |
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| 19:52.03 | THE_GFR|WORK | jhutchins: thanks |
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| 19:55.34 | hacko | PlZ |
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| 19:56.05 | hacko | I want to work with Linux for smart phones |
| 19:56.21 | hacko | Any chan is special for that? |
| 19:56.51 | jhutchins | hacko: I think ubuntu has one for ubuntu touch, which is that general direction... |
| 19:56.59 | own3dz | what git gui client do u use ? |
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| 19:57.24 | hacko | Shame for debian |
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| 19:57.42 | hacko | We hate Ubuntu |
| 19:57.55 | hacko | Aren't we? |
| 19:58.00 | bobbyr | sorry ewew, firefox sending my load average up to 10.0 over the last 5 minutes |
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| 19:58.07 | jhutchins | hacko: Well, #debian and the Debian team need to focus on the main distro. |
| 19:58.42 | jhutchins | hacko: Nah, no point in wasting the energy hating anybody. Let them do their thing, we'll do ours. |
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| 20:00.31 | ewew | bobbyr It worked ? |
| 20:00.37 | bobbyr | no, i dont think so |
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| 20:01.26 | ewew | bobbyr Using the maxdev parameter ? |
| 20:02.17 | bobbyr | yes |
| 20:02.35 | bobbyr | i ran sudo rmmod slcan |
| 20:02.53 | bobbyr | followed by sudo modprobe slcan maxdev=64 |
| 20:02.54 | bobbyr | no dice |
| 20:02.58 | bobbyr | do i need to reboot? |
| 20:03.09 | bobbyr | or will i lose my kernel settings |
| 20:03.22 | ewew | bobbyr This is only for time to next reboot. |
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| 20:03.39 | bobbyr | figured |
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| 20:03.47 | bobbyr | well, it doesn't seem to be working anyway |
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| 20:04.01 | own3dz | i'm gonna use git-gui. i'm wondering how raspbian (debian base) don't have this as default package |
| 20:04.03 | bobbyr | is there a way to see the value of parameters for a kernel module? |
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| 20:05.16 | bobbyr | own3dz, because the the raspian image needs to be slim enough to fit on an SD card |
| 20:05.25 | ewew | bobbyr There are set values in kernel. I dont think their are commonly displayed. |
| 20:05.25 | AvatarA | bobbyr, in /sys/module/nameofmodule/parameters |
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| 20:05.50 | bobbyr | AvatarA, there is no parameters path on the filesystem |
| 20:05.59 | bobbyr | i guess that means there are no params being set? |
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| 20:06.07 | own3dz | bobbyr: how he call this packages are default in images of operating systems ? |
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| 20:06.25 | AvatarA | what do you mean parameters path? |
| 20:06.54 | bobbyr | AvatarA /sys/modules/slcan/parameters doesnt exist |
| 20:07.04 | own3dz | i mean the default packages installed for apt package manager, parameters path was what u can call in shell ? |
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| 20:07.13 | greycat | bobbyr: /sbin/modinfo slcan |
| 20:07.32 | AvatarA | that means the module is not loaded |
| 20:08.11 | bobbyr | AvatarA, lsmod is showing the module |
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| 20:08.20 | AvatarA | or that module doesn't receive parameters? |
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| 20:08.37 | greycat | modinfo says it has one |
| 20:08.49 | bobbyr | it definitely takes a parameter |
| 20:08.52 | bobbyr | called maxdev |
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| 20:09.13 | bobbyr | modinfo doesnt show me anything useful |
| 20:09.44 | greycat | parm: maxdev:Maximum number of slcan interfaces (int) |
| 20:09.49 | greycat | You don't get that? |
| 20:09.52 | bobbyr | i did |
| 20:10.11 | bobbyr | parm: maxdev:Maximum number of slcan interfaces (int) <- from my session |
| 20:10.21 | greycat | Right, then modinfo is showing you the parameters that it takes. |
| 20:10.31 | bobbyr | yes, but not the value |
| 20:10.37 | bobbyr | which is what i want to know |
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| 20:11.05 | ewew | bobbyr try number 16 |
| 20:11.20 | greycat | All i can think is that you typoed the pathname in your session as well as in IRC. |
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| 20:11.28 | greycat | it's /sys/module/ not /sys/modules/ |
| 20:11.45 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. One of my systems that I upgraded to Jessie has a problem with Akonadi looking for mysql-global.conf when I'm using the SQLite back-end. Why is it doing this and how can I get it to stop? |
| 20:12.10 | bobbyr | ls /sys/module/slcan/ coresize holders initsize initstate notes refcnt sections taint uevent |
| 20:12.23 | Pegasus_RPG | (The Akonadi server won't start as a result of this) |
| 20:12.56 | greycat | *shrug* maybe the absence of the parameters/ subdir means no parameters were specified? I have no idea. |
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| 20:13.19 | bobbyr | greycat, im guessing that's what's happening |
| 20:13.25 | bobbyr | the module isnt taking the params |
| 20:13.28 | ewew | greycat Maybe it has limits on kernel. |
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| 20:13.52 | greycat | tries "man module" and "man sys" and gets nothin' |
| 20:14.11 | bobbyr | ewew the thing is i have other versions of the kernel installed on the SAME hardware |
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| 20:14.26 | bobbyr | we have many of the same machine here |
| 20:14.31 | ewew | bobbyr Is it raspeberry or normal pc ? |
| 20:14.35 | bobbyr | it is amd64 |
| 20:14.38 | bobbyr | a dell |
| 20:15.07 | ewew | bobbyr What happens when you load the module with maxdev=xx ? |
| 20:15.54 | bobbyr | nothing |
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| 20:16.04 | ewew | bobbyr dmesg | tail shows ? |
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| 20:16.15 | bobbyr | sudo modprobe slcan maxdev=64 <- i invoke this |
| 20:16.35 | bobbyr | then from dmesg: [12975.325699] slcan: serial line CAN interface driver [12975.325707] slcan: 64 dynamic interface channels. |
| 20:16.36 | greycat | When I tried sudo modprobe slcan maxdev=16 I got (in dmesg) slcan: 16 dynamic interface channels. |
| 20:17.03 | bobbyr | but when i try to attach the devices |
| 20:17.09 | bobbyr | im only seeing the 14 |
| 20:17.19 | bobbyr | although i am positive that 24 are attached |
| 20:17.31 | greycat | You may need more specialized support than we can give. Make LKML? |
| 20:17.33 | greycat | maybe* |
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| 20:17.52 | ewew | bobbyr Let try it this way. Unplug them and load module. Then replug. |
| 20:18.12 | bobbyr | good idea |
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| 20:20.45 | bobbyr | no dice |
| 20:21.08 | bobbyr | not enough host controller resources for new device state D= |
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| 20:21.37 | ewew | bobbyr How many devices you connected ? |
| 20:21.41 | bobbyr | 24 |
| 20:21.54 | ewew | bobbyr Then set maxdev to 24 |
| 20:21.56 | bobbyr | once i get to the 14th device |
| 20:22.00 | bobbyr | it craps out |
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| 20:23.05 | ewew | bobbyr You know even 14 devices is not small amount power required. |
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| 20:23.30 | bobbyr | i know that |
| 20:23.34 | bobbyr | i have a powered hub |
| 20:23.51 | bobbyr | and i have the same exact hardware |
| 20:23.58 | bobbyr | working as expected on centos 6 |
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| 20:24.19 | ewew | bobbyr Then something is wacky in the kernel. |
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| 20:24.29 | greycat | You could ask on the debian-user mailing list, or the LKML. |
| 20:24.29 | bobbyr | I'll say |
| 20:24.37 | bobbyr | will do |
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| 20:25.25 | bobbyr | I'm gonna try disabling usb 3.0 |
| 20:25.31 | bobbyr | in the BIOS |
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| 20:25.51 | bobbyr | maybe ill then use ehci rather than xhci |
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| 20:28.10 | ewew | bobbyr Where the devices stop working ? On hub or on usb port on PC case ? |
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| 20:31.46 | Pegasus_RPG | Oh this is fun. reportbug has a bug! |
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| 20:34.13 | quantic | Pegasus_RPG: how meta |
| 20:34.22 | greycat | If all else fails, the bug tracking system really just needs you to send an email with specific content. |
| 20:34.34 | greycat | It can be done by hand. |
| 20:34.34 | bobbyr | ewew, the devices work perfectly fine |
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| 20:35.04 | ewew | bobbyr Dont know whats wrong then. |
| 20:35.08 | bobbyr | ewew, the problem is that only 14 have nodes in /dev at any given time |
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| 20:35.14 | bobbyr | i have 24 devices |
| 20:35.29 | ewew | bobbyr Try making them with mknod. |
| 20:35.29 | bobbyr | I want there to be 24 /dev/ttyUSBx nodes |
| 20:35.33 | greycat | bobbyr: any chance the bug is in udev instead of the kernel? |
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| 20:35.50 | bobbyr | greycat perhaps |
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| 20:36.06 | bobbyr | all i have to go on really is random serverfault posts and this channel |
| 20:36.16 | bobbyr | i am usually pretty far up the stack |
| 20:36.31 | bobbyr | the kernel guy isnt in today |
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| 20:37.35 | bobi1024 | please refresh my memory |
| 20:37.45 | bobi1024 | console tool similar to inxi |
| 20:37.58 | bobi1024 | which gives you short summary about the system |
| 20:38.13 | bobi1024 | it displays the distribution logo using ASCII |
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| 20:38.30 | bobi1024 | i can't remember what is called |
| 20:39.59 | ewew | bobbyr Last try mknod ttyUSB15 c 188 15. But i dont know what will happen. |
| 20:40.16 | ewew | in /dev |
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| 20:41.01 | bobbyr | meh, i dont want to try something where neither of us has any idea what might happen |
| 20:41.08 | ewew | bobbyr ok |
| 20:41.10 | bobi1024 | I found it - screenfetch |
| 20:41.17 | bobi1024 | thanks guys |
| 20:41.27 | jhutchins | bobi1024: lshw |
| 20:41.55 | bobi1024 | jhutchins: I found it. It's called - screenfetch |
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| 20:44.38 | MrDetonia | Just done a fresh install of Debian and on boot I get a message saying that "/etc/mtab" should be a symlink to "/proc/self/mounts". How do I fix this? |
| 20:44.52 | greycat | Is that in testing or unstable? |
| 20:44.58 | MrDetonia | Testing |
| 20:45.00 | greycat | someone else reported that earlier today |
| 20:45.28 | MrDetonia | Is it bricked, or was there a way of fixing it?? |
| 20:45.49 | greycat | You'd have to ask #debian-next on OFTC (not this network). That's the official testing support channel. |
| 20:46.05 | MrDetonia | Okay, will try there |
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| 20:47.03 | jhutchins | screenfetch |
| 20:48.05 | greycat | ``This handy Bash script can be used to generate one of those nifty terminal theme information + ASCII distribution logos you see in everyone's screenshots nowadays.'' |
| 20:48.09 | greycat | um... |
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| 20:50.57 | jhutchins | bobbyr: Also archey |
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| 20:52.56 | work_ing | Archey looks legit. Last commit note: "muh boy omp need dem street credz, luv u dawg shoutout to 2pac #thuglife" |
| 20:53.02 | HellTiger_NB | hello, should this be in 7.9 apt: https://packages.debian.org/sid/video/livestreamer |
| 20:53.06 | HellTiger_NB | i cant find it |
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| 20:54.07 | greycat | ,v livestreamer |
| 20:54.09 | judd | Package: livestreamer on amd64 -- jessie: 1.10.2-1; sid: 1.12.2-1; stretch: 1.12.2-1 |
| 20:54.18 | greycat | Nope, not in wheezy. Only in jessie. |
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| 21:05.46 | H4sty911 | Question: will 'apt-get upgrade' upgrade the kernel or just packages ? |
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| 21:09.50 | jhutchins | H4sty911: Should be just packages. |
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| 21:10.40 | H4sty911 | jhutchins: thanks. |
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| 21:11.12 | H4sty911 | jhutchins: do you know what the 'dist' in dist-upgrade stands for? it is a bit misleading for me bc it sounds like it is ugprading the distribution/aka kernel |
| 21:11.21 | ewew | jhutchins On my system it upgrades everything. |
| 21:13.05 | MrDetonia | k, I booted into a USB from BIOS and setup a symlink to fix this /etc/mtab problem, but now UEFI can't find a bootable device. What did I do? |
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| 21:13.28 | H4sty911 | from what i have read you have to add a newer source for it to update the distro |
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| 21:15.01 | MrDetonia | nvm, fixed it by enabling secure boot and re-hashing the Debian .efi; but I still have the same issue >.> |
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| 21:25.52 | cxd13 | H4sty911: you should use dist-upgrade only to upgrade from one release to another. there's not really any point in using it in other cases |
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| 21:26.38 | cxd13 | but from my experience it doesn't update the kernel unless you are upgrading to a newer release with a newer kernel |
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| 21:27.41 | MrDetonia | Disregard my previous statement; turns out I suck at creating symlinks :P All working after manually creating the /etc/mtab -> /proc/self/mounts link |
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| 21:29.36 | H4sty911 | cxd13: yes it seems there are configuration dependencies that will alter what it changes, such as repo settings etc |
| 21:30.10 | H4sty911 | cxd13: in your experience, how do you upgrade the kernel with dist-upgrade ? |
| 21:30.40 | cxd13 | you don't, unless doing something like upgrading from debian 7 -> 8 then a new kernel will come with it |
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| 21:31.21 | cxd13 | to install a newer kernel you just install it with apt-get |
| 21:31.44 | cxd13 | apt-get install* |
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| 21:33.25 | AvatarA | meh, I downgraded my kernel, H4sty911 wants a newer one, everybody wants what they don't have ;) |
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| 21:34.14 | rabbil | can a handful of you say my name pls, testing notifications :) |
| 21:34.49 | H4sty911 | rabbil |
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| 21:35.16 | zir0faive | rabbil |
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| 21:35.56 | pstch | rabbil |
| 21:35.59 | pstch | this I can do |
| 21:36.07 | H4sty911 | cxd13: so apt-get dist-upgrade only upgrades the current kernel ? |
| 21:36.50 | rabbil | thx peeps :D |
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| 21:37.45 | rabbil | okay if you could say my name a few times more I'd appreciate it :) |
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| 21:38.52 | H4sty911 | rabbil |
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| 21:41.21 | rabbil | pls a few more times? |
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| 21:42.15 | H4sty911 | rabbil |
| 21:42.47 | rabbil | wicked :D |
| 21:42.49 | rabbil | thx :3 |
| 21:42.58 | H4sty911 | !debhelper help |
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| 21:46.07 | cxd13 | H4sty911: it's for upgrading from one release to another like i said |
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| 21:46.21 | cxd13 | all packages not just the kernel |
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| 21:47.28 | cxd13 | upgrade and dist-upgrade will both update the current packages (including kernel) if there are updates available |
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| 21:47.44 | H4sty911 | cxd13: thanks for clarifying |
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| 21:47.57 | H4sty911 | cxd13: just want to make sure Im on target here, appreciate it |
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| 21:49.25 | cxd13 | no problem |
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| 21:56.16 | DrOwl | Hi All, I wonder if some one can help me, i am trying to get openconnect to work with the network-manager applet, i have all the packages installed but when i try to add a new vpn config, no vpn devices appear in the dropdown list, what am i missing |
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| 21:58.32 | Pwnna | for apt, is there a way to delete files that existed in a previous version of the package but not in the new version when upgrading? or does that already happen? |
| 21:58.55 | Pwnna | also autoremove any automatic dependencies if dependencies changed? |
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| 22:13.17 | pad7070 | hi ! |
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| 22:14.20 | format_c | hi |
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| 22:14.55 | Hello71 | if I am using stable-updates is it still useful to include security? |
| 22:15.24 | format_c | yes of course |
| 22:16.27 | cxd13 | stable gets almost zero updates that are not security updates so yes it's useful |
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| 22:17.20 | format_c | For example, I'm just doing a full-upgrade. The majority is coming from security |
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| 22:20.14 | shampoo_ | yep |
| 22:20.40 | backbox_ | Why would it be set to dynamically make the channel bigger? |
| 22:20.45 | ewew | backbox_ Who is a bot ? |
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| 22:23.25 | ewew | backbox_ Maybe safeguard against server overload ? If you mean "debhelper" |
| 22:24.47 | cxd13 | prevents join flooding |
| 22:24.55 | backbox_ | Oh |
| 22:24.58 | cxd13 | or stupid behavior like that |
| 22:25.33 | Hello71 | cxd13: wouldn't that mean that I should only use security and not stable-updates? |
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| 22:25.40 | ewew | If some user puts bigger amount of lines it reacts. |
| 22:26.26 | cxd13 | ewew: just use both. for example minitube in stable is broken right now. if it's ever updates it wouldn't be a security update |
| 22:27.02 | backbox_ | cool |
| 22:27.06 | ewew | cxd13 What are talking about ? |
| 22:27.18 | cxd13 | ewew: good luck |
| 22:27.41 | Hello71 | ah, it makes sense if you look at the Packages for both |
| 22:28.00 | cxd13 | ewew: i replied to wrong person sorry |
| 22:28.12 | Hello71 | -updates and security are disjoint sets |
| 22:28.23 | Hello71 | (I think) |
| 22:28.23 | ewew | cxd13 ok,np |
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| 22:39.16 | sine` | I have updated wheezy to jessie and gnome3.* is a bit heavy for my old laptop. can i select a different one in login |
| 22:39.29 | sine` | i think LXDE is the lightest right ? |
| 22:39.54 | format_c | XFCE is also light and rich |
| 22:40.13 | SuperTramp83 | sine`: i recommend xfce |
| 22:40.33 | SuperTramp83 | lightweigh and sexy :P |
| 22:41.06 | sine` | ok so 2 for xfce |
| 22:41.21 | sine` | I have just logged out and found that i could choose, im on lxde, dont like the look though |
| 22:41.22 | format_c | sine`, I even prefer xfce on my high-end power machine |
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| 22:41.37 | SuperTramp83 | ^ +1 |
| 22:41.39 | sine` | format_c: I had lxde on my good pc when i had gentoo on there |
| 22:41.41 | format_c | It's also just more practical |
| 22:41.46 | mrproper | Is there a way, on the CLI, to see network throughput and if possible, what process is generating that traffic? |
| 22:41.48 | SuperTramp83 | the top |
| 22:41.53 | sine` | can i just install it easy on deb and then select it at start |
| 22:42.22 | format_c | !tell mrproper iftop |
| 22:42.43 | format_c | !tell mrproper about iftop |
| 22:42.53 | SuperTramp83 | yes, you should be able to do so sinee |
| 22:42.57 | mrproper | Didnât show me anything, but I just installed it |
| 22:42.58 | SuperTramp83 | *sine |
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| 22:43.19 | format_c | mrproper, have you directed it to look at the correct interface? |
| 22:43.30 | mrproper | format_c: Directed what? |
| 22:43.47 | format_c | iftop -i <interfacename> |
| 22:44.02 | mrproper | Yeah, it seems to have defaulted to eth0 anyways |
| 22:44.08 | mrproper | I just specified that though |
| 22:44.19 | format_c | OK for me it's working fine |
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| 22:46.14 | mrproper | Why would network traffic for a box which doesnât do much (offers Plex rarely used, DHCP, DNS, maybe one or two other things) generate an Internet throughput profile that looks like http://sharebucketapp.com/DRlOGI0NTUzYjhmNDAxN |
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| 22:47.35 | format_c | yeah iftop could help you there. But tcpdump as well. |
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| 22:49.31 | sine` | no offence but this LXDE is ugglee |
| 22:50.56 | jaggzt | my audio changes levels automatically it seems |
| 22:50.58 | jaggzt | is this a thing? I can't find a setting for it |
| 22:51.16 | jaggzt | like, i'll have netflix going and suddenly it'll get loud.. or soft |
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| 22:51.28 | SuperTramp83 | sine`: how do you like my Debian xfce? :P http://postimg.org/image/ngcmqjhlz/ |
| 22:51.33 | jaggzt | (what's the opposite of loud?) |
| 22:51.44 | SuperTramp83 | quiet |
| 22:52.15 | sine` | its sexy |
| 22:52.25 | sine` | xfce didnt look like that fo rme last time |
| 22:52.40 | format_c | SuperTramp83, nice |
| 22:52.46 | SuperTramp83 | I stole everything from Elementary OS.. |
| 22:52.52 | SuperTramp83 | Pantheon DE |
| 22:52.52 | jaggzt | superkulak, what's with ports being so few? |
| 22:52.58 | format_c | sine`, this one is pimped |
| 22:53.00 | SuperTramp83 | I want that in the repo! |
| 22:53.07 | jaggzt | man I'm too tired I shouldn't care |
| 22:53.19 | jaggzt | why's xchat say "shouldn't" is spelled wrong |
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| 23:11.26 | sine` | folivora: how do i get it pimped like yours with the circle icons |
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| 23:13.47 | own3dz | what ftp server you use ? |
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| 23:21.38 | own3dz | for raspbian image (raspberrypi arm architecture). i listen about vsftpd, it's tweaked for local networks |
| 23:21.48 | own3dz | that's what i want, any alternatives for vsftpd ? |
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| 23:25.20 | hassoon | https://i.imgur.com/9ihUCTy.png :) |
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| 23:37.42 | fuller35 | hi ppl |
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| 23:38.09 | asterismo_m | hi ppl |
| 23:38.28 | asterismo_m | is it possible to change username in debian? |
| 23:38.43 | asterismo_m | like i badly chose the name userA during install |
| 23:38.50 | asterismo_m | and now i want to use userB as username |
| 23:38.56 | asterismo_m | so i have /home/userB |
| 23:39.08 | asterismo_m | is this possible? like changing host name? |
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