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| 00:02.48 | randomuser123 | another live iso boots perfectly fine |
| 00:03.05 | c0fe | randomuser123: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:03.21 | randomuser123 | i am trying to boot dban on my computer |
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| 00:03.45 | c0fe | randomuser123: oh that piece of crap. sorry it is a problem constantly to boot and then to erase a disk |
| 00:04.00 | c0fe | code is a mess too |
| 00:04.23 | randomuser123 | i burnt it using dd but a directory from the iso didnt get copied for some reason. dont know how important that is |
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| 00:05.02 | randomuser123 | when i go to the boot menu and select the flash drive with it i get a black screen with an underscore for a second and then return to the boot menu |
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| 00:07.58 | randomuser123 | could you please suggest an open source alternative to dban? |
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| 00:28.52 | cpc26 | use DD |
| 00:29.12 | cpc26 | https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/dd-invocation.html#dd-invocation |
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| 00:30.01 | cpc26 | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdyourtarget |
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| 01:39.11 | Chocolate_Chip | Does the Debian Wiki not support infoboxes, or embedded pictures> |
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| 01:42.49 | Chocolate_Chip | Or a table of Contents... |
| 01:46.53 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, read the guide...in the wiki :P https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide#Table_of_Contents_sections |
| 01:47.23 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, talks about images/attachments, too |
| 01:47.51 | Chocolate_Chip | k |
| 01:47.53 | Chocolate_Chip | Thanks |
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| 01:48.08 | Chocolate_Chip | How does my userpage look? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide#Table_of_Contents_sections |
| 01:48.14 | Chocolate_Chip | *so far |
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| 01:54.40 | mdim | hello everyone |
| 01:55.31 | mdim | does anyone have a suggestion how to learn how to setup OpenLDAP in Debian without reading the whole documentation of OpenLDAP? I need it for me and my family, hence nothing big. It also needs to work over TLS/SSL |
| 01:55.52 | mdim | info on the wiki at https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup is outdated and not for current stable (Jessie) |
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| 02:02.11 | Dan39 | howdy |
| 02:02.43 | Dan39 | trying to use lftp with TLS but gnutls keeps giving fatal alert |
| 02:03.04 | Dan39 | i recall in past the only way i could fix this was to recompile lftp with openssl instead of gnutls |
| 02:03.42 | Dan39 | here is log of the gnutls stuff: http://pastie.org/10507835 |
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| 02:49.18 | PlagueRat | Hi guys... I'm in the process of switching from Winblows to Debian before they force WinSpy 10 on me... I am using mIRC now. I tend to be connected to about 6 to 8 channels on 2 servers. I have minimal scripts. What's a good client for that sort of usage on Debian ? |
| 02:50.04 | wadadli | PlagueRat: give weechat a try |
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| 03:54.05 | fred1807 | how can I for the install of aclocal-1.14 from jessie, on wheezie ? |
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| 03:54.57 | somiaj | ,v aclocal |
| 03:54.58 | judd | No package named 'aclocal' was found in amd64. |
| 03:55.53 | somiaj | ,v automake |
| 03:55.54 | judd | Package: automake on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.11.1-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 1:1.11.6-1; jessie: 1:1.14.1-4; sid: 1:1.14.1-4; stretch: 1:1.15-3; sid: 1:1.15-3 |
| 03:56.12 | somiaj | fred1807: you could try to backport it yourself, unsure how easy or hard this will be. |
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| 04:03.17 | dominic1134 | hi there, is there any way to display a message after a package has been installed? tried with postinst but had no success because other dependencies will continue to be configured after the postinst script is executed. thanks |
| 04:03.46 | andrew[andrboot] | Hi guys, im trying to setup a mirror internally, and im not getting the greatest speed trying to sync using rsync, is there a better way to mirror initially? (just grabbing amd64) |
| 04:03.48 | dominic1134 | with message i mean something like "Package installed, visit http://localhost:8232 to configure..." |
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| 04:04.26 | z8z | Hello, from a clean installation of debian jessie how can i setup a remote desktop to just use a browser? |
| 04:04.48 | SirLagz | z8z: remote desktop as in you remoting into the new debian machine? |
| 04:05.04 | z8z | SirLagz: yes |
| 04:05.33 | SirLagz | z8z: would you be doing it from another linux machine? |
| 04:06.04 | z8z | SirLagz: yes but i can also do from a windows one if needed |
| 04:06.31 | SirLagz | z8z: doing it from linux is easier...just ssh -X user@debianhost firefox |
| 04:06.39 | SirLagz | z8z: or chrome or whatever |
| 04:06.59 | SirLagz | z8z: that won't actually do remote desktop...but that will run the browser on the debian box, but forward the GUI to the box you're doing the ssh command from |
| 04:07.23 | z8z | SirLagz: :| |
| 04:07.50 | SirLagz | z8z: if all you're wanting to do is browse from the Debian box, what I said will achieve what you want. |
| 04:07.57 | SirLagz | z8z: if you want other things too, well that's different |
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| 04:08.06 | polyphagia | yes andrew[andrboot] |
| 04:08.33 | z8z | SirLagz: so with that command i can see a box which mirror the gui of firefox run from remote machine? |
| 04:08.43 | SirLagz | z8z: yes |
| 04:09.12 | somiaj | well mirror some of it, the actual windowmanager will be done from the client, but the process is run on the server |
| 04:09.14 | z8z | SirLagz: So ip address and everything belongs to the remote machine? |
| 04:09.22 | andrew[andrboot] | polyphagia: what is the better way? :P |
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| 04:09.53 | SirLagz | z8z: yes |
| 04:10.21 | z8z | SirLagz: Omg this is some magic trick :D |
| 04:10.34 | SirLagz | lol |
| 04:10.43 | somiaj | andrew[andrboot]: not srue what is considered better. I mostly use ssh because no need for gui apps over the network. You can also set up a vnc or spice server and actually view a desktop running on the machine over just using an xclient. |
| 04:10.46 | msn | what was the server for debian-next? |
| 04:10.54 | somiaj | msn: irc.oftc.net |
| 04:11.00 | polyphagia | andrew[andrboot]: https://packages.debian.org/sid/apt-cacher |
| 04:11.19 | z8z | SirLagz: which is the default browser name of debian? |
| 04:11.30 | somiaj | andrew[andrboot]: nevermind, I thought you were part of the ssh tunnelling discussion. |
| 04:11.35 | SirLagz | z8z: I don't know |
| 04:11.36 | z8z | SirLagz: that i can type from terminal now to make a test? |
| 04:11.42 | SirLagz | z8z: iceweasel maybe? |
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| 04:11.51 | z8z | SirLagz: ah right... thanks :) |
| 04:11.55 | andrew[andrboot] | polyphagia: aha. |
| 04:12.03 | polyphagia | sorry for the delay |
| 04:12.05 | polyphagia | i was looking for it |
| 04:12.08 | somiaj | z8z: iceweasel is the one that gets installed a lot, but you can install many browsers in debian. Though only chromium and iceweasel have decenet security support. |
| 04:12.27 | polyphagia | i remember reading somewhere about how this or apt-proxy was a good idea for classroom installs :P |
| 04:13.06 | SirLagz | I just use a squid caching proxy to cache my packages lol |
| 04:13.14 | SirLagz | transparency! yay! |
| 04:14.52 | z8z | SirLagz: (process:3863): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed |
| 04:14.55 | z8z | :( |
| 04:16.47 | SirLagz | ,v gcc |
| 04:16.49 | judd | Package: gcc on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; sid: 4:5.2.1-4; stretch: 4:5.2.1-4 |
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| 04:17.41 | andrew[andrboot] | hmm. polyphagia besides caching, any ideas? :P |
| 04:17.45 | z8z | SirLagz: oh no that's a normal message when iceweasel start.... so where should i see the gui content? :( |
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| 04:17.55 | SirLagz | z8z: should pop up |
| 04:18.52 | z8z | SirLagz: it doesn't ;_; |
| 04:19.06 | SirLagz | z8z: does iceweasel work on the Debian box if you start it on there? |
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| 04:19.24 | z8z | SirLagz: yep |
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| 04:21.47 | SirLagz | z8z: not sure then...should "just work" |
| 04:22.20 | z8z | :| |
| 04:22.51 | SnitraM | As icewweasel really likes to talk to its other instances, purhaps --no-reomte might help? |
| 04:24.17 | SnitraM | --no-remote |
| 04:24.31 | z8z | in the ssh command line? |
| 04:25.02 | SnitraM | ssh -X me@box iceweasel --no-remote |
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| 04:26.13 | z8z | doesn't work either :( |
| 04:26.24 | z8z | oh |
| 04:26.30 | z8z | it does |
| 04:26.32 | z8z | :)))))))))))) |
| 04:26.36 | SirLagz | z8z: cool |
| 04:26.49 | SnitraM | Does "ssh -X me@box xclock" work? |
| 04:26.56 | z8z | omg..... this is really sorcery |
| 04:27.24 | SirLagz | heh...what's that quote? - Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. |
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| 04:27.33 | SnitraM | Only been workig like that since the 80s... |
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| 04:27.59 | z8z | sorry to ask this extra question but..... how the hell can this work? It just send pixels on video info or just gnome parameters of gui? |
| 04:28.44 | SnitraM | X communication is tunneled through ssh (in this case). |
| 04:29.42 | z8z | SnitraM: so only gui info? or Xserver api info? |
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| 04:30.09 | z8z | SnitraM: i mean.... Xserver level or glib level? |
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| 04:30.21 | SnitraM | Not sure about the term, but X api I guess. |
| 04:30.39 | SirLagz | z8z: google for "X Forwarding" if you want to read into it |
| 04:32.20 | z8z | SirLagz: cool..... megathanks guys.... you made my day and had me to throw away VNC forever XD |
| 04:33.29 | SirLagz | z8z: no problems :) |
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| 04:46.41 | wadadli | Which package contains dmenu for i3? |
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| 04:52.37 | wadadli | This is strange the metapackage i3 is said to contain the dmenu yet $mod+D doesn't bring it up. |
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| 05:04.24 | nkuttler | wadadli: installed doesn't mean it's configured or that there is a keybinding |
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| 05:07.02 | shawn | I just had to REISUB |
| 05:07.34 | shawn | watching TWD |
| 05:07.57 | shawn | my computer became a zombie and I REISUB'd it |
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| 05:25.17 | warsh | so, I kinda screwed up apt / dpkg by interrupting installation. Here's my output from trying to install a package http://pastebin.com/F311azEB |
| 05:26.14 | markybob | warsh, apt-get -f install |
| 05:26.38 | warsh | same error |
| 05:27.02 | markybob | dpkg --configure -a ? |
| 05:27.03 | dpkg | markybob: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 05:27.52 | warsh | http://pastebin.com/EGsGqhLK |
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| 05:28.02 | markybob | warsh, pastebin the apt-get -f install output |
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| 05:28.52 | warsh | apt-get -f install owncloud output http://pastebin.com/rgnPR4aq |
| 05:29.15 | markybob | without owncloud |
| 05:29.21 | markybob | just apt-get -f install |
| 05:29.28 | valdyn | warsh: try "dpkg --purge libapache2-mod-php5" |
| 05:30.57 | warsh | markybob: http://pastebin.com/pzdM0dzv |
| 05:31.13 | warsh | valdyn: dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 05:32.04 | valdyn | warsh: dpkg --purge --force-all libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 05:34.23 | warsh | okay that seems to have worked |
| 05:34.53 | valdyn | warsh: ok, now you should remove and purge all the other apache2/owncloud stuff, probably, just to be on the safe side |
| 05:35.06 | warsh | apt-get remove --purge owncloud ? |
| 05:35.20 | warsh | since owncloud includes apache2 as well |
| 05:35.36 | valdyn | warsh: depends on what is auto-installed (installed as a dependency) and what is not |
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| 05:35.57 | valdyn | warsh: if you did this right then maybe "apt-get remove --purge owncloud" and "apt-get autoremove --purge" |
| 05:36.41 | valdyn | warsh: owncloud depends on apache2, it does not include it |
| 05:36.56 | warsh | I mean initiates its installation |
| 05:37.00 | warsh | but, yes |
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| 05:37.49 | warsh | systemctl status apache2 says it's still running |
| 05:39.16 | warsh | okay |
| 05:39.23 | warsh | gonna restart just in case :-) |
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| 05:44.56 | warsh | originally apt-get install owncloud was ~250MB, now it's ~95MB; and the webserver isn't working |
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| 05:48.33 | warsh | okay, got it |
| 05:51.03 | warsh | got it from here; thanks valdyn and markybob |
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| 06:52.04 | fishbulb | is there a "hardened" version of jessie |
| 06:53.14 | fishbulb | like if I wanted to install the most secure version of linux |
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| 07:06.02 | Siente | morning guys, I have copy/pasted the net install iso image on my usb stick, but it's not bootable why? |
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| 07:07.06 | dynek | maybe the partition is not flagged bootable ? |
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| 07:07.14 | Siente | how to flag it as bootable? |
| 07:07.26 | Siente | the debian iso is isohybrid? |
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| 07:08.27 | dynek | maybe this will help: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 07:09.20 | Siente | well I am on linux atm? |
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| 07:09.28 | Siente | on Windows I mean |
| 07:09.33 | Siente | I don't have linux here |
| 07:09.33 | dynek | http://live.debian.net/manual/current/html/live-manual.en.html#building-iso-hybrid |
| 07:09.47 | dynek | oops just a little bit below |
| 07:09.58 | dynek | http://live.debian.net/manual/current/html/live-manual.en.html#copying-iso-hybrid-to-usb |
| 07:10.36 | Siente | but I am with windows |
| 07:10.47 | Siente | and I have copy/pasted the isohybrid image on the usb stick |
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| 07:15.40 | patterson | http://unetbootin.github.io/ |
| 07:20.58 | swift110 | unetbootin is cool |
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| 07:24.58 | Siente | thanks |
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| 07:50.40 | spm_draget | I want to install roundcube on wheezy with the sqlite3 backend. Installing 'roundcube-sqlite3' only pulls the sqlite3 deps as far as I see… but installing 'roundcube' pulls the mysql deps. So how do I correctly install this? |
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| 07:56.23 | julius__ | hi |
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| 07:57.01 | julius__ | when i try to install mutt on a 8.2 with no desktop environment or x. it wants to install a bunch of gtk libraries...like: libcairo2 libcups2 libdatrie1 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common why is that? |
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| 08:07.37 | spm_draget | Ah sorry, nevermind. Was mixing backports with stable |
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| 08:09.15 | solrize | i need to build some 32-bit x86 packages. i tried building the 64-bit version on a 2gb ec2 instance and it failed because the compiler (GHC) ran out of memory. No prob, re-did on a bigger machine and it worked. but what am i supposed to do about the 32-bit case if it doesn't fit in 2G? can a 32-bit machine have 4G? and is there a simple way to create a 32-bit environment on my 64-bit box? if not i guess i can temporarily get a 32-bit cloud in |
| 08:09.16 | solrize | stance but would rather use my existing box if possible. |
| 08:09.17 | swift110-phone | Hey |
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| 08:09.42 | solrize | i notice ghc executables have much bigger footprint in 64 bit than 32 |
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| 08:11.14 | MY123 | solrize: 32bit machines can have 3GB/process, with a overall system limit of 64GB |
| 08:11.32 | solrize | hmm 3GB may be enough |
| 08:11.34 | solrize | thanks |
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| 08:16.02 | ws2k3 | is there Any way to force kill a proces in D state? i realy do not wish to reboot the machine |
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| 08:16.46 | waressearcher2 | what is D ? |
| 08:17.00 | swift110-phone | Hmm |
| 08:17.39 | solrize | http://serverfault.com/questions/250294/best-way-to-kill-zombie-and-d-state-processes-in-linux |
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| 08:18.14 | waressearcher2 | "best-way-to-kill-zombie", enjoy the sunrise |
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| 08:18.58 | solrize | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kill+a+process+in+D+state man ugly situation |
| 08:20.00 | waressearcher2 | does anyone know why cant I find *.iso files using google ? is it somehow filter results so people do not search for some specific stuff ? can anyone recommend search web site that do not filter results ? |
| 08:20.16 | solrize | filetype:iso ? |
| 08:20.34 | solrize | well i guess the contents of .iso's are not indexed |
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| 08:23.58 | pfote | which "D" you talkin about? |
| 08:24.13 | pfote | from "ps", "top"? |
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| 08:27.48 | solrize | yeah |
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| 08:34.51 | ws2k3 | pfote yes from ps |
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| 08:36.18 | pfote | thats usually waiting for I/O .. is the process completely stuck? stale nfs drive or somethin? |
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| 08:39.00 | waressearcher2 | "stale nfs drive", I got that quite offten, usually yes the only way is to reboot, but sometimes I resolve it by remounting to other directory and then unmounting and after some time it release that "stale" state |
| 08:39.13 | jelly | ws2k3: short answer no, you can't kill it. If you can figure out the filesystem/mountpoint which it hangs on, sometimes you can kick that filesystem into behaving. If its a fuse-based one, you can kill the backend process and then all IO to it exits. |
| 08:39.22 | waressearcher2 | ws2k3: what is your reason for having process in "D" state ? |
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| 08:42.00 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: "stale NFS filehandler" or really "stale NFS drive"? |
| 08:42.13 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: filehandler |
| 08:42.32 | waressearcher2 | because it shows in "mount" output but it looks like it brocken |
| 08:42.57 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: then check the NFS Server, why the filehandle changed. What NFS Server involved? |
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| 08:44.32 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: yes it happens when I have files open from nfs server but at the same time I reboot server, so client doesn't know about that and when server boots again there is inconsistency server doesn't know that there is client, that thinks its connected and client doesn't know that server doesn't know that klient is thinking that it is still |
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| 08:44.38 | waressearcher2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.39 | waressearcher2 | is that makes any sence ? |
| 08:44.41 | waressearcher2 | sense |
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| 08:46.30 | pfote | i think there was a option to do some sort of a "soft mount" on nfs servers, to prevent that |
| 08:46.46 | pfote | not sure how, though, i'm not a admin |
| 08:46.48 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: not really. NFS was designed to be reboot safe for server and client. Some Linux implemntation on server did weird things to generate the filehandle new on each reboot. man exports check for fsid and set that manually |
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| 08:47.26 | ChrisH | pfote: soft mount are not the correct approach here. Fixing the root cause is quite simple. |
| 08:47.39 | pfote | k |
| 08:47.47 | pfote | then forget what i said :-) |
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| 08:48.11 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: sometimes it resolves by timeout but sometimes it just stuck in "stale" state so I have to reboot client |
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| 08:49.26 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: you did not answer my question on what is the nfs server? From the shown results neither Solaris nor HP/UX :) |
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| 08:50.22 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: results ? |
| 08:50.38 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: you do not mistaken me with ws2k3 ? |
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| 08:51.00 | ChrisH | having stale file handles after rebooting the nfs file server |
| 08:51.06 | waressearcher2 | I use nfs-utils-1.2.2 |
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| 08:51.51 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: what do you want to know ? I think its NFSv3 |
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| 08:57.30 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: So Linux as NFS Server. Then man exports check for fsid and follow that |
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| 09:03.42 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: yes linux for bot NFS server and client, maybe the reason that I have different versions of NFS |
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| 09:04.36 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: servers software is 5 years old and clients software is 2 years old, on server I have nfs-utils-1.2.2 and on client I use nfs-utils-1.2.8 |
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| 09:13.18 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: matches my expierence. set fsid and be happy |
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| 09:17.54 | morphyeys | Hello guys, how can I install the latest stable version of git on my debian? |
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| 09:19.12 | spm_draget | morphyeys: You mean a version newer than the one provided it the repository? You can try adding the backports source (i.e. if you are running wheezy, you can add wheezy-backports) that gives you some packages from the newer release of Debian. |
| 09:19.17 | ChrisH | morphyeys: apt-get install git |
| 09:19.43 | spm_draget | If you google for backports, you will find some howtos. But this is also not nessecarily the latest version, just the one that jessie has. |
| 09:20.08 | spm_draget | If you want an even newer version, you could look for someone providing a custom repository or you compile it yourself. |
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| 09:21.20 | spm_draget | You can even try using an ubuntu PPA on debian (howtos easily found by google), but this might not always work. For git it might, but generally you should be careful with PPAs in Debian, especially if you pull system-close packages. |
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| 09:26.19 | ChrisH | !frankendebian |
| 09:26.20 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 09:26.33 | morphyeys | ChrisH: apt-get install git is going to install me version 2.1.0 |
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| 09:26.42 | ChrisH | ,v git |
| 09:26.43 | judd | Package: git on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1; stretch: 1:2.6.1-1; sid: 1:2.6.2-1; experimental: 1:2.6.2+next.20151022-1 |
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| 09:27.17 | ChrisH | morphyeys: these are the Debian stable version. Why do you need any other version? Simply SNS or? |
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| 09:29.06 | Big_Bob | hi |
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| 09:29.21 | Big_Bob | how can i access a windows share using the file explorer? |
| 09:29.36 | Big_Bob | i have caja |
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| 09:35.49 | morphyeys | I need the latest stable version of git 2.6.2 |
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| 09:36.06 | morphyeys | is aptitude going to install me the latest stable version of git 2.6.2 ? |
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| 09:38.16 | markybob | ,v git |
| 09:38.17 | judd | Package: git on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1; stretch: 1:2.6.1-1; sid: 1:2.6.2-1; experimental: 1:2.6.2+next.20151022-1 |
| 09:39.01 | markybob | !ssb |
| 09:39.02 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 09:39.54 | morphyeys | I am with Debian 8.2.0 |
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| 09:40.16 | markybob | yeah. thus ssb. start with step 1 and work your way through it |
| 09:40.17 | morphyeys | and apt-cache policy git is saying that it's going to install me version 2.1.0 |
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| 09:41.02 | morphyeys | so I need to compile it? |
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| 09:41.13 | Big_Bob | it seems so |
| 09:41.23 | markybob | yes, but it's all automated, really. just those simple steps |
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| 09:41.57 | morphyeys | how to add deb-src line |
| 09:42.10 | markybob | sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:42.36 | morphyeys | yeah, but from where to get that line |
| 09:42.38 | morphyeys | to add it |
| 09:42.39 | markybob | then update |
| 09:43.02 | morphyeys | but what do I need to add in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:43.12 | Big_Bob | deb-src http://ftp.<country>.debian.org/debian/ sid main {contrib} {non-free} |
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| 09:43.32 | morphyeys | from where did you get it man? |
| 09:43.44 | Big_Bob | <> needs your own input, {} is optional |
| 09:43.45 | petn-randall | morphyeys: Is there a reason you need 2.6.2? |
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| 09:44.23 | Big_Bob | morphyeys: they are the same like the stable deb lines, just replace stable/jessie with sid :) |
| 09:45.21 | markybob | morphyeys, it's literally the first result when you google "deb-src sid" |
| 09:45.24 | petn-randall | morphyeys: Are you missing a specific feature that you don't have in 2.1.4? |
| 09:45.52 | morphyeys | maybe not, so I don't need to use 2.6.2? |
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| 09:46.09 | markybob | how should we know? you started with "i need 2.6.2" |
| 09:46.13 | morphyeys | but can I update only the git? |
| 09:46.18 | petn-randall | morphyeys: I'd always use the packaged version, unless you have compelling reasons you can't use that. |
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| 09:46.29 | morphyeys | without touching anything else? |
| 09:46.42 | markybob | morphyeys, with a backport like we showed you |
| 09:46.50 | petn-randall | ,checkbackport git |
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| 09:47.18 | morphyeys | I have no idea what is backport? |
| 09:47.23 | Big_Bob | a small off topic: is it good for the healthly of dvd's to blank them completely with "wodim dev=/dev/<cdrom> blank=all" ? |
| 09:47.29 | judd | Backporting package git in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 09:47.35 | wodim | what |
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| 09:48.00 | MrGaraj | hello, can anybody help me solve my X problem ? I tried to follow this tutorial: http://linuxconfig.org/nvidia-geforce-driver-installation-on-debian-jessie-linux-8-64bit and now my graphical interface doesn't show |
| 09:48.08 | markybob | morphyeys, ssb. what i showed you earlier. |
| 09:48.09 | Big_Bob | wodim: oh, there's a nickname too, haha |
| 09:48.12 | markybob | wowie |
| 09:48.13 | petn-randall | Big_Bob: They have a limited amount of writes, so you're basically using one to overwrite them. |
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| 09:49.09 | Big_Bob | petn-randall: what do you exactly mean with that? should i don't do that and overwrite it instead of blanking it first? |
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| 09:50.39 | morphyeys | it's said to check for backport in debian-backports, but what doest that mean? |
| 09:50.48 | morphyeys | I can't get it where to check exactly? |
| 09:50.50 | petn-randall | Big_Bob: Depends on if you have sensitive data on there. If not, I don't think you have to blank them before overwriting. I assume you're talking about rewritable DVDs. |
| 09:50.53 | markybob | morphyeys, don't worry about it. start with step one like i said |
| 09:50.53 | morphyeys | http://backports.debian.org/ or? |
| 09:51.06 | markybob | morphyeys, it's not in there, like i showed you by checking it earlier |
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| 09:51.14 | morphyeys | aaa okay |
| 09:51.18 | morphyeys | just adding the deb-src line |
| 09:51.23 | morphyeys | for the sid |
| 09:51.24 | markybob | and go on from there |
| 09:51.29 | markybob | follow the steps |
| 09:51.41 | kryl | hi, how to get a package from testing or unstable branch ? (munin-node modules are not well working in jessy) |
| 09:51.47 | morphyeys | but then If I don't want to update to newer version the rest of my software already installed what shall I do just to remove the sid deb-src line? |
| 09:51.52 | Big_Bob | petn-randall: yes, they are dvd-rw discs |
| 09:51.59 | markybob | dpkg, tell kryl about ssb |
| 09:52.13 | morphyeys | okay I'll follow the steps |
| 09:52.15 | morphyeys | !deb-src sid |
| 09:52.15 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
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| 09:53.46 | morphyeys | should I comment the rest of the deb-src lines in the sources.list? |
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| 09:54.34 | markybob | morphyeys, official ones for stable/jessie? nah. sid wins |
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| 09:58.24 | morphyeys | !bdo |
| 09:58.25 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 09:59.39 | markybob | morphyeys, you can /msg dpkg foo if it's just for you. but like i said it's not in backports. you have to make it with ssb |
| 09:59.40 | morphyeys | so I need to add backports |
| 09:59.46 | morphyeys | yes |
| 09:59.48 | markybob | morphyeys, no. it's not in backports |
| 09:59.50 | morphyeys | the 2nd step is |
| 10:00.00 | morphyeys | 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) |
| 10:00.01 | morphyeys | ? |
| 10:00.11 | morphyeys | I have added deb-src line in the sources.list |
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| 10:00.35 | morphyeys | deb-src http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free |
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| 10:00.45 | morphyeys | now do I need to refresh it somehow? |
| 10:01.01 | markybob | forget that part. aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; |
| 10:01.12 | markybob | then you'll get a bunch of .deb files. dpkg -i foo*.deb |
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| 10:03.10 | morphyeys | where am I going to get them in the current directory? |
| 10:03.11 | morphyeys | :D |
| 10:03.20 | markybob | yes |
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| 10:03.58 | morphyeys | omg |
| 10:04.01 | morphyeys | I have typed su - |
| 10:04.17 | morphyeys | and then aptitude update && aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; |
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| 10:04.47 | markybob | you know you were supposed to change packagename to whatever you're trying to install? git in this case. right? |
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| 10:04.52 | morphyeys | but I don't see any .deb packages in the current dir |
| 10:05.00 | morphyeys | no |
| 10:05.01 | morphyeys | :D |
| 10:05.10 | Mathisen | lol |
| 10:05.20 | markybob | and replace foo with it too in dpkg -i |
| 10:05.35 | morphyeys | ahh okay |
| 10:05.42 | morphyeys | hmm it failed |
| 10:05.44 | morphyeys | 1 sec |
| 10:06.05 | morphyeys | http://kopy.io/2YA8g |
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| 10:06.26 | sincityctx | hi, is there a way to delay a service start? when i reboot nginx will not start because an ipv6 address is not assigned already |
| 10:06.53 | markybob | morphyeys, you didnt change "packagemame" on the build-dep portion |
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| 10:07.37 | morphyeys | markybob, return true |
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| 10:08.10 | markybob | aptitude build-dep packagename <-that's what you had. aptitude build-dep git is what you need |
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| 10:08.42 | morphyeys | yes I see omg :( |
| 10:08.47 | morphyeys | now it seems to be fine |
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| 10:18.22 | morphyeys | it failed again? |
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| 10:19.32 | morphyeys | http://kopy.io/cfzuU |
| 10:19.57 | mns | Why would a cronjob that is set for 9:45am EST, run 4 hours earlier at 5:45am EST ? |
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| 10:21.32 | markybob | morphyeys, apt-get install zlib1g-dev (that provides libz-dev that you're missing) |
| 10:21.43 | morphyeys | ah okay |
| 10:21.50 | morphyeys | and I need to rerun the command again? |
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| 10:22.38 | markybob | morphyeys, the last bit (after installing zlib1g-dev). apt-get -b source packagename; |
| 10:23.10 | markybob | replace packagename :P |
| 10:23.13 | morphyeys | and If I rerun aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep git; apt-get -b source git; is it a problem ? |
| 10:23.23 | markybob | no problem. |
| 10:23.27 | markybob | just not necessary |
| 10:24.05 | morphyeys | okay |
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| 10:25.13 | MrGaraj | anybody with some free time to help me resolve my gui issue ? |
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| 10:29.17 | morphyeys | why it's taking so much tim |
| 10:29.19 | morphyeys | time |
| 10:29.26 | morphyeys | markybob, should I remove the deb-src line for the sid afterwards? |
| 10:29.51 | markybob | morphyeys, that's normal. compiling takes a bit. you can leave it since it's only -src and not deb |
| 10:30.13 | morphyeys | what's the difference ? |
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| 10:30.43 | markybob | -src only has source packages. deb has binaries that you use with apt-get install or aptitude install, etc |
| 10:31.00 | morphyeys | markybob, okay super |
| 10:31.07 | morphyeys | ! thank you very much man ! |
| 10:31.08 | dpkg | thanks you very much man ! |
| 10:31.15 | markybob | you're welcome |
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| 10:35.09 | morphyeys | what ftp client would you recommend me to use on Debian? |
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| 10:39.07 | morphyeys | it failed again wtf? |
| 10:39.50 | morphyeys | http://kopy.io/A2oZa |
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| 10:44.24 | morphyeys | guys? |
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| 10:45.15 | morphyeys | markybob, are you there? |
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| 10:50.47 | morphyeys | how to install firefox and chrome on debian 8.2.0 jessie stable? |
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| 10:52.29 | jelly | morphyeys: the packages equivalents are called "iceweasel" and "chromium" respectively. Or are you asking about mozilla's build and google's build with non-free plugins? |
| 10:52.48 | morphyeys | maybe that's what I am asking for |
| 10:52.49 | aimless_ | Hi all, I've got a bubba NAS with a arm core. On this system I would like to install the ddclient, what needs the following libs: libnet-ssleay-perl_1.36-1_armel.deb and libnet-ssleay-perl_0.12.ds-1+b1_armel.deb |
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| 10:53.03 | morphyeys | so it's np to use iceweasel and chromium instead of firefox and chrome? |
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| 10:53.10 | morphyeys | for web development? |
| 10:53.20 | morphyeys | and so apt-get install chromium or? |
| 10:53.42 | aimless_ | both aren't any more available on any debian.org server. Does anybody know from where I can get it? |
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| 10:55.00 | petn-randall | aimless_: Which release is this? |
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| 10:55.49 | morphyeys | how to install sudo on debian? |
| 10:56.07 | aimless_ | petn-randall: squeeze 2.6.0.3 |
| 10:56.08 | ewew | morphyeys https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html |
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| 10:57.15 | petn-randall | aimless_: squeeze went into long-term support, and i386 and amd64 are the only supported architectures. |
| 10:57.16 | ewew | morphyeys https://wiki.debian.org/PackageManagement |
| 10:57.34 | aimless_ | ah, ok. |
| 10:57.36 | petn-randall | aimless_: You might still be able to fetch those packages by changing your sources.list to point to the archive. |
| 10:57.52 | petn-randall | aimless_: But that being said, you should probably upgrade to wheezy soon. |
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| 11:00.05 | aimless_ | petn-randall: ok, I'll see if I can update the system, as the NAS is no more supported because the company 'excito' went bankrub. |
| 11:00.53 | aimless_ | petn-randall: but, what is the path to the archive? s.th. like debian.org/archive/... or what? |
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| 11:02.00 | aimless_ | petn-randall: sorry, I found it... archive.debian.org.... |
| 11:02.11 | anonnumberanon | Debian stable free VS Debian stable non-free all VS Debian testing VS Debian testing non-free all ??? |
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| 11:02.34 | aimless_ | petn-randall: all right. Thank you very much for this valuable information. |
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| 11:09.07 | chele | Is it possible to install .deb package without privileges access through dpkg? |
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| 11:10.46 | ewew | chele No. Only with granted priviledge from authentification. |
| 11:10.56 | petn-randall | aimless_: You're welcome. |
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| 11:23.18 | misterioso | Hello all, I have a little question, I don't know exactly the differences between telnet and telnetd. Can someone either tell me or point me in the right direction? |
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| 11:24.33 | bezaban | misterioso: telnetd is the telnet daemon or server which accepts connections. Telnet is the client program used to connect to telnetd |
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| 11:25.21 | misterioso | bezaban: so if I want to connect to another computer, I must install «telnetd» on that computer and «telnet» on mine? |
| 11:26.00 | misterioso | I thought they were the same but just using different protocols |
| 11:26.04 | markybob | only if you want to leak your passwords |
| 11:26.35 | petn-randall | misterioso: telnet shouldn't be used at all, unless it is to educate on how simple network protocols work. |
| 11:26.41 | ewew | I wonder when cleartext protocols will by removed from debian. |
| 11:26.42 | misterioso | markybob: I know about the telnet disadvantages :) |
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| 11:27.00 | misterioso | I am just learning :) |
| 11:27.22 | misterioso | I know ssh is a more secure option, but I start from the simplest |
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| 11:27.43 | petn-randall | misterioso: If you want to log in to machines, use ssh. It's the default. |
| 11:27.53 | ewew | misterioso Bad idea. |
| 11:28.36 | ewew | misterioso To use telnet |
| 11:29.01 | misterioso | I don't try to actually use this to make a real connection, I am just tinkering |
| 11:29.56 | misterioso | so telnetd is the program which must be on the remote-controlled computer and telnet the program in the controlling computer? |
| 11:30.15 | misterioso | did I get it right? |
| 11:30.40 | petn-randall | misterioso: yes |
| 11:31.09 | misterioso | ok, thanks I was getting confused with the tech info |
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| 11:31.49 | bezaban | misterioso: make sure you don't use any passwords you use for anything important via telnet |
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| 11:32.18 | misterioso | yes, I have read about that, it transfers data as plain text, thanks anyway :) |
| 11:32.34 | bezaban | as others here have stated it should never be used and ssh is not really any harder. (on windows many even use the same client, putty) |
| 11:33.01 | ewew | misterioso Not a good idea. This can lead you to not encrypt anything. cause you dont have anything to hide ? |
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| 11:33.35 | misterioso | I am using it in my local network, in class. Don't worry, i am aware of the dangers of using this on the wide Internet ^^' |
| 11:33.53 | misterioso | for real purposes I am using ssh :) |
| 11:34.09 | ewew | misterioso Yes. But students know that ? |
| 11:34.22 | misterioso | I am a student XD |
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| 11:34.42 | misterioso | thanks for your concern :) |
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| 11:34.58 | bezaban | misterioso: for real basics you can run netcat on one terminal: nc -l -p 9999 and telnet into it with telnet localhost 9999 |
| 11:35.20 | markybob | they should've taught students google "telnet vs telnetd" :P |
| 11:35.35 | bezaban | or even nc on the clientside too, nc localhost 9999 |
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| 11:36.09 | ewew | bezaban But does nc have input sanitation ? |
| 11:36.26 | bezaban | ewew: it's like cat, just over the network |
| 11:36.27 | bezaban | so no |
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| 11:37.33 | ewew | bezaban So basicly computer can be hacked throgh nc and even running as non root. |
| 11:38.20 | ewew | Sometimes i feel that i dont know enough of IT. :-( |
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| 11:42.10 | Nurbs | I am trying to install packages either from unstable or experimental automatically, whatever repository contains the most recent version. Giving experimental's packages Pin-Priority: 990 leads apt to ignore unstable's version, though: http://paste.debian.net/318144/ |
| 11:42.47 | bezaban | ewew: that would depend on what you do with the output of nc. At any rate is is not something you'd run over extended periods of time, rather something for troubleshooting and like cases for this, demonstration of network connections. |
| 11:42.47 | themill | Nurbs: experimental is not designed to be used that way |
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| 11:47.09 | Nurbs | themill: Well, yes. But is it possible to use pinning to achieve this? I am of course not using all packages from experimental, but often choose to install NVIDIA drivers and git from experimental (that is I'm using Package: libcuinj* /cuda/ /nvidia/ libxnvctrl* git*, not Package: * for pinning). It's not that important, but it would be nice to be able to just use apt-get/aptitude to upgrade to the most current version automatically |
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| 11:48.53 | towo` | Nurbs, with a pinning of 100 a distupgrade woukd use experimental for automatic updates, if you have allready a exp package installed and the version is higher than in unstable |
| 11:49.02 | themill | Nurbs: Default-Release makes no sense with pinning |
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| 11:53.04 | Nurbs | themill: I was wondering; does default-release do anything different than setting a pin on release a=unstable @ 990? |
| 11:54.00 | themill | that's precisely what it does |
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| 11:55.53 | Nurbs | themill: Thanks, that clears it up. |
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| 12:06.46 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: if I set parameter "fsid=10" in /etc/export on a server should I also use "fsid=10" as a mount option on a client ? |
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| 12:09.28 | larsmw | how du i configure my external monitor for my laptop on 8.2 ? |
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| 12:13.27 | somiaj | larsmw: what desktop do you use? On most modern graphics card/drivers this is done with xrandr. That is the cli app, and most desktops have a gui utility to configure this |
| 12:14.06 | blind | I like 'arandr' for a gui on minimal WMs without such a tool |
| 12:14.40 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: NO |
| 12:14.49 | _Ulan | larsmw |
| 12:15.06 | _Ulan | larsmw: mind those chipsets : https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/2gcy81/laptop_with_external_monitor_anything_to_watch_for/ |
| 12:15.10 | larsmw | i use gnome 3 |
| 12:15.40 | _Ulan | larsmw: else you'll finde simple instrucitons here : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=79285 |
| 12:16.10 | _Ulan | which isn't any dfferent from 8.1 :) |
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| 12:16.15 | somiaj | larsmw: there should be a display settings in gnome you can use to turn on an external monintor |
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| 12:17.05 | larsmw | i have the display dialog, but it only shows the laptop display, and not the external |
| 12:17.38 | somiaj | is the external pluged in? What graphics card are you using? What graphics driver are you using with the card? |
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| 12:18.23 | larsmw | lspci says its a : Radeon HD 8730M |
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| 12:18.59 | larsmw | ext is on a displayport cable through a dockingstation |
| 12:19.24 | waressearcher2 | ChrisH: do you know audacity by any chance ? |
| 12:20.08 | ChrisH | waressearcher2: I know the name, thats it all. |
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| 12:21.24 | somiaj | larsmw: sometimes dockingstations don't allow the machine to view the edid of the monintor making it not detect there is a monintor pluged in. |
| 12:21.54 | somiaj | larsmw: in way you can connect directly to a secondary monintor (for testing reasons) to ensure that the issue is with the docking station vs your configuration. |
| 12:22.09 | bill_lx | I used jigdo to build testing iso - i mounted it and then built a updated iso - to do this properly should i download a new jigdo and template file before each upgrade |
| 12:22.30 | larsmw | ah, if i plug the displaycable directly to my laptop it works |
| 12:22.44 | larsmw | but not through the docking-station,.. |
| 12:23.15 | dionysus69 | why am I getting this error while toggling bluetooth device? sh: 1: /usr/sbin/hciconfig: not found I can confirm there is such file. I am using powertop, any ideas? |
| 12:23.16 | larsmw | i just changed fromn ubuntu 14.04 to debian, and in ubuntu it worked through the dock |
| 12:23.41 | somiaj | yea docking stations are sometimes finiky. The machine needs to be able to detect the monintor is pluged in and read its edid. If that doesn't happen y ou can sometimes force a secondary display by manually adding the modlines |
| 12:24.11 | somiaj | hmm, wonder what ubuntu is doing differently. What driver are you using for the card larsmw ? |
| 12:24.55 | larsmw | somiaj, i have not activly changed driver, so its the standard driver in debian.. |
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| 12:25.57 | somiaj | larsmw: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and make sure the radeon driver correctly loaded and you aren't using the generic vesa driver. |
| 12:26.19 | somiaj | Unsure if it is a driver issue and unsure if ubuntu uses radeon or fglrx by default. |
| 12:26.56 | dionysus69 | what is ACPI? |
| 12:27.50 | somiaj | dionysus69: forget the exact meaning, but it is a combination of power saving and events supported by the bios of the machine. So not only does it deal with power saving, suspend and other stuff is done via the ACPI standard. |
| 12:28.23 | dionysus69 | so what should I expect if I disable it? |
| 12:28.26 | somiaj | "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface" |
| 12:28.59 | dionysus69 | I have this in dmesg: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1) and I think its acpi related |
| 12:29.01 | somiaj | you will have less control over some hardware level (bios) of your system, so I think that thigns like suspend and other power saving features may not be present. |
| 12:29.23 | nevyn | umm it might revert to a really buggy apm |
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| 12:29.31 | somiaj | I would look into lm-sensors or go configure your bios to see why the core temperature is above threshold |
| 12:29.32 | larsmw | thanks all for your help, it seems that my driver isnt loaded properly |
| 12:29.40 | nevyn | 'Advanced Power Management' |
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| 12:30.05 | dionysus69 | I guess I ll try booting once with acpi off see what dmesg says |
| 12:30.08 | dionysus69 | brb |
| 12:30.09 | nevyn | that'd be pretty horrible because it almost certainly is less functional than the acpi implementation |
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| 12:30.17 | somiaj | larsmw: you may also need firmware-linux-nonfree or linux-firmware-nonfree for the radeon driver. It can work without it, but works better with the non-free firmware. |
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| 12:30.54 | larsmw | thanks somiaj :) |
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| 12:31.30 | nevyn | somiaj: a current firmware it's always non-free |
| 12:32.23 | somiaj | nevyn: there is a collection of free firmware too, linux-firmware-free |
| 12:32.38 | somiaj | but the radeon firmware is not in that package. |
| 12:32.41 | nevyn | yeah but the radon firmware is always non-free |
| 12:32.52 | nevyn | it's just in the rom of the card |
| 12:33.01 | nevyn | or on disk. |
| 12:33.27 | somiaj | Just like most non-free firmware, I personally dont' see a distinction between it being on the card or the disk, but some do. |
| 12:33.40 | nevyn | right |
| 12:34.03 | nevyn | wishes more firmware was free. |
| 12:34.10 | somiaj | though if it is on the rom of the card, I'm unsure why the radeon driver requires it to be on the disk. Wonder if there is some changes made by ati(well now amd) for that. |
| 12:34.24 | nevyn | oh yeah lots of errata and bug fixes |
| 12:34.30 | nevyn | it's not trivial software |
| 12:35.45 | somiaj | I personally just use nvidia non-free, may not be a fan of it, but it does it's job. |
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| 12:37.22 | nevyn | the firmware is somewhere between a bios and a full os. |
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| 12:38.03 | nevyn | because a modern graphics card... is a computer |
| 12:39.01 | somiaj | I see the issue with the firmware is the black box effect. Some firmware is mearly just the hardware rom put on disc and we are given full specs of how to use the firmware we just aren't allowed to modify it, which I can accept. Others is just a sneaky way to ship a closed source driver with a open source front end in the kernel. |
| 12:39.16 | somiaj | but I din't think this effect goes away if the firmware is on the card and you are using a free driver. |
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| 12:39.31 | nevyn | so nvidia is a proper closed source driver. |
| 12:39.43 | nevyn | it hooks 20meg of userspace lib into the kernel |
| 12:40.27 | nevyn | so there are also perverse things going on in hardware land with things like the broadcom chip that's in the rpi |
| 12:40.51 | somiaj | is that the one we can't even ship the firmware and have to cut it out of the windows driver? |
| 12:40.59 | nevyn | where it's basically designed to run linux without exposing the interesting technology |
| 12:41.26 | nevyn | so lots of these arm chips.. are a gpu with incidental ARM cpu |
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| 12:41.39 | nevyn | and the gpu actually intiallises the arm. |
| 12:41.45 | nevyn | and then boots linux on it. |
| 12:42.03 | somiaj | in lots of asepcts the gpu is more powerful than the cpu, why it was used so much with the folding project. |
| 12:42.18 | MY123 | nevyn: and sometimes, the GPU runs an RTOS |
| 12:42.23 | nevyn | yeah |
| 12:42.28 | MY123 | (like the Pi) |
| 12:42.47 | nevyn | MY123: which then 'emulates' the arm stuff |
| 12:43.01 | nevyn | on a vliw arch or something essoteric |
| 12:43.07 | MY123 | nevyn: the most awesome thing is that the Pi's RTOS-on-GPU uses SMP |
| 12:43.33 | nevyn | MY123: so the funny thing is that the whole product is perverse. |
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| 12:43.48 | nevyn | in that without free software.. it wouldn't exit. |
| 12:43.50 | nevyn | exist |
| 12:43.54 | MY123 | nevyn: and that the "GPU" is really just a SIMD extension to those custom CPUs |
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| 12:44.39 | nevyn | right. |
| 12:44.39 | somiaj | nevyn: I think that is true for most embeded devices these days from routers, to what ever tool has some sort of cpu/os on it. |
| 12:44.43 | MY123 | (there is a separate 3D unit which BCM uses, but it's as fast as that CPGPU, so half of the processing power is actually unused) |
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| 12:45.19 | ewew | offtopic ? |
| 12:45.25 | nevyn | so the question is. if there's that much software complexity under our free system it shakes confidence in it's behavior. |
| 12:45.31 | nevyn | ewew: fair call |
| 12:45.53 | MY123 | nevyn: yeah, you can't trust RPis for sensitive stuff |
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| 12:46.34 | nevyn | also this is why greg-kh won't touch the usb with a barge pole |
| 12:46.34 | MY123 | it's like running GNU on Windows |
| 12:46.56 | somiaj | Read about the girl who makes secure passwords by rolling dice and sending them snail mail, so there is no digital fingerprint of the password until it is used. |
| 12:47.07 | somiaj | But yes we are probabaly to off-topic by now |
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| 13:23.55 | somiaj | mallxs: networkmanager daemon should still run, so I think it should work. If not there is a nm-cli app to bring things up |
| 13:26.58 | mallxs | somiaj: is networkmanager daemon the new way of networking config or can i switch back to just using /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 13:27.51 | somiaj | mallxs: that is network-manager, it is a daemon that allows users to configure it via vairious gui and and a cli tool. |
| 13:28.14 | somiaj | mallxs: if you want to use /etc/network/interfaces, just diasble or remove network-manager (though it should ignore anything you manually configure int hat file) |
| 13:28.44 | somiaj | gui or not, you can choose which tool you use to manage your network. |
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| 13:29.35 | mallxs | somiaj: thanks ... it seemed so connected |
| 13:30.19 | somiaj | mallxs: My view point. Pick the tool you like/know how to use and just use that. Don't mix tools, so disable/uninstall the ones you aren't using. |
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| 13:30.45 | somiaj | and if youa re familar with network-manager you may find using it over the cli nm-cli app just fine to manage |
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| 13:32.15 | mallxs | so i should read into network-manager .. will do |
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| 13:32.58 | somiaj | mallxs: if you are familar with the /etc/network/interfaces file then use that. Choice is yours. |
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| 13:41.35 | O0ddity | So what could be the cause of grub not doing anything |
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| 13:45.39 | O0ddity | Can anyone help me out with: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4638 |
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| 13:48.41 | waressearcher2 | topic for "debian-offtopic" says: "systemd ranting is not on-topic here" is it on topic in here ? |
| 13:49.02 | jelly | waressearcher2: it's not |
| 13:50.48 | waressearcher2 | jelly: are you and "jelle" the same person ? |
| 13:51.11 | jelly | waressearcher2: no, we're two different people |
| 13:51.29 | waressearcher2 | he is in #systemd |
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| 14:02.41 | MalikiAjdar | hi who knows what does mean 's' on file permission ? (example: chmode +s file.txt) |
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| 14:03.31 | waressearcher2 | MalikiAjdar: sticky bit |
| 14:03.50 | Tsutsukakushi | MalikiAjdar: setuid |
| 14:03.54 | Tsutsukakushi | MalikiAjdar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid |
| 14:04.00 | Tsutsukakushi | waressearcher2: sticky bit is t |
| 14:04.06 | waressearcher2 | right |
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| 14:23.32 | MalikiAjdar | i read it in book, and in wikipedia too. but i dont understand function 's'. For example, I knew what t is assigned. in short it prohibits delete and rename. and how to speak briefly about the 'T'? |
| 14:24.02 | cheako | (gnome-shell:2583): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Unable to initialize the Clutter backend: http://pastebin.com/index/Hj1UjY4S |
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| 14:25.05 | jelly | MalikiAjdar: are you talking about ls -l output? |
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| 14:26.51 | MalikiAjdar | jelly yep |
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| 14:27.12 | cheako | man ls |
| 14:27.42 | MalikiAjdar | jelly im about mean S in rws |
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| 14:28.25 | MalikiAjdar | jelly: in group owner read write and s |
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| 14:28.52 | cheako | ssticky on a directory. |
| 14:29.05 | cheako | why is the man page all blank? |
| 14:29.36 | cheako | I hate ppl, I learned everything I know about ls fom the man page... but now it's blank. |
| 14:29.47 | MalikiAjdar | what function of a sticky ? |
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| 14:30.08 | MalikiAjdar | man stiky doesnt exist :D |
| 14:30.40 | cheako | oithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit |
| 14:30.50 | MalikiAjdar | i read it. |
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| 14:31.01 | MalikiAjdar | and google it before asking :) |
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| 14:32.15 | MalikiAjdar | im asking about setgid bit |
| 14:32.28 | cheako | What is this crap ppl are writing now days! |
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| 14:32.45 | cheako | sorry, everyone else is retarded. |
| 14:32.56 | pksadiq` | MalikiAjdar: man page of chmod might help you. s is set uid/gid bit, I think. this bit is set on executables that should be run as root, but shall be run by normal user. see ls -l /usr/bin/sudo |
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| 14:34.15 | cheako | When setgid permission is applied to a directory, files that were created in this directory belong to the group to which the directory belongs, not the group to which the creating process belongs. Any user who has write and execute permissions in the directory can create a file there. However, the file belongs to the group that owns the directory, not to the user's group ownership. |
| 14:35.13 | dondelelcaro | cheako: info coreutils 'File permissions'; has the full documentation on what all of the bits do |
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| 14:36.27 | cheako | That was what I remember the stickybit being. it make the group stick. AFAIK the t flag used for /tmp is a relatively new concept(within the last decade). |
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| 14:36.37 | blind | 'man chmod' also mentions it |
| 14:36.43 | MalikiAjdar | ok wait i translate it :D thnx |
| 14:37.02 | dondelelcaro | cheako: the sticky bit is not the setgid or setuid bits. |
| 14:37.50 | dondelelcaro | cheako: it's the third bit in the first octal portion of the permissions; it's existed for a very long, long time. |
| 14:38.13 | mockie | Does anyone here subscribe to Linux Pro Magazine or recommend to do so? |
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| 14:39.12 | MalikiAjdar | pksadiq: cheak: thanks for help. |
| 14:39.44 | cheako | dondelelcaro: that'd be read, unless starting from 0 then it's not the first octet anymore. |
| 14:40.40 | dondelelcaro | cheako: there are four octals in the permissions. The first octal set is the "special mode bits" |
| 14:40.45 | cheako | o1000 is "sticky bit" |
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| 14:41.44 | dondelelcaro | and no, the sticky bit is 4000. "For regular files on some older systems, save the program's text image on the swap device so it will load more quickly when run; this is called the "sticky bit"" |
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| 14:42.11 | dondelelcaro | hrm; mabye I'm wrong actually; it must be 1000 |
| 14:42.14 | dondelelcaro | ignore me |
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| 14:43.29 | dondelelcaro | for some reason I had rotated them in my head |
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| 14:43.42 | dondelelcaro | (4000 is setuid) |
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| 14:49.01 | Filystyn | HELO |
| 14:49.06 | Filystyn | problem |
| 14:49.09 | c0rez | lol HELO |
| 14:49.11 | c0rez | clever |
| 14:49.28 | c0rez | what's with all the polish people in here? |
| 14:49.38 | Filystyn | ok i got silly problem i go with my dolphin baby to erase some bigger file on usb |
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| 14:49.53 | Filystyn | and i get "trash reached max size" |
| 14:49.57 | Filystyn | how to resolv this |
| 14:50.07 | _geo | hello, i use virtualmin to create a user with only email access, while every cli parameter seems ok, i get "Group # is not allowed for this virtual server" anyone known something about this? |
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| 14:50.52 | c0rez | _geo: why are you using virtualmin? |
| 14:51.32 | _geo | makes things simple cuase my experience with server configuration is not enough |
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| 14:55.59 | petn-randall | Filystyn: Use shift+del to permanently delete it (instead of moving it to trash). |
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| 14:57.23 | c0fe_machine | secure deletion in debian and linux in general is still apparently the dream of a mad man |
| 14:57.26 | Filystyn | thank you |
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| 14:57.42 | Filystyn | lol |
| 14:57.51 | Filystyn | teh file is 2 big |
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| 14:58.10 | Filystyn | why would it not just change its directory to trash? |
| 14:58.13 | Filystyn | well what ever |
| 14:58.26 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: What are you referring to? |
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| 14:58.33 | c0fe_machine | Filystyn: oh yeah, some files cannot be deleted if they are too big |
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| 14:58.52 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: secure deletion is the overwritting of a specific files a number of times to ensure it cannot be recovered |
| 14:59.11 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: something you can't really do entirely in linux |
| 14:59.13 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: I know what it means, I don't know what you're referring to. |
| 14:59.31 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: i was responding to Filystyn |
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| 15:09.03 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: secure delete doesn't work with most filesystems that have journaling. This isn't specific to Linux. |
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| 15:10.23 | ksk | just use full-disk encryption if that is a problem for you. |
| 15:10.49 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: true but i do not recall if there were a few programs that addressed this |
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| 15:11.08 | helloworld_ | hey guys |
| 15:11.12 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: If you don't want to have data be accessible, you put that in a LUKS container and throw away the key once you don't need it. Or don't write it to disk in the first place and use something like memdisk. |
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| 15:11.20 | helloworld_ | Trying to install ecryptfs, but did debian remove from it's repo? |
| 15:11.29 | petn-randall | ,v ecryptfs |
| 15:11.30 | judd | No package named 'ecryptfs' was found in amd64. |
| 15:11.45 | helloworld_ | Hmm, weird |
| 15:11.48 | petn-randall | ,v ecryptfs-utils |
| 15:11.49 | judd | Package: ecryptfs-utils on amd64 -- squeeze: 83-4+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 83-4+squeeze1; wheezy: 99-1; jessie: 103-5; sid: 106-1 |
| 15:11.55 | ksk | security issues! dont use it please :) |
| 15:11.57 | petn-randall | helloworld_: It's there in stable. ^^^ |
| 15:12.00 | helloworld_ | it's not on debian testing |
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| 15:12.15 | helloworld_ | petn-randall: why isn't on debian testing? :( |
| 15:12.26 | jelly | dpkg, tell helloworld_ about why is ecryptfs-utils not in testing |
| 15:12.34 | petn-randall | helloworld_: https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ecryptfs-utils.html |
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| 15:12.55 | helloworld_ | petn-randall: thanks! |
| 15:12.57 | j3j3 | #go-nuts |
| 15:13.27 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: that i know but still |
| 15:13.43 | j3j3 | if I set environment variable in ~/.profile or system wide in /etc/profile it doesn't work, it does work in ~/.bashrc though |
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| 15:14.57 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: Well, there _are_ tools for it. |
| 15:15.01 | petn-randall | ,v wipe |
| 15:15.03 | judd | Package: wipe on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.21-9; wheezy: 0.22-1; jessie: 0.22-1; stretch: 0.22-3; sid: 0.22-3 |
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| 15:15.20 | waressearcher2 | is there channel for debian developers ? |
| 15:15.23 | petn-randall | ,v scrub |
| 15:15.24 | judd | Package: scrub on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.2-2; wheezy: 2.4.1-1; sid: 2.6.1-1; jessie: 2.6.1-1; stretch: 2.6.1-1 |
| 15:15.35 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: scrub and wipe have been around quite a while now. |
| 15:16.05 | jelly | waressearcher2: yes, there is. Why do you ask? |
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| 15:17.06 | waressearcher2 | jelly: why don't you tell me ? |
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| 15:18.29 | jelly | waressearcher2: because you're not stating a tech support issue that would require a developer's response |
| 15:18.31 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: when you have a directory or multiple directories then you have problems |
| 15:18.51 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: With what? |
| 15:19.02 | c0fe_machine | scrub and wipe |
| 15:19.08 | c0fe_machine | have errored out for me |
| 15:19.14 | c0fe_machine | can't recall the errors though but was a while ago |
| 15:19.38 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: They can only work on files, not on directories which are file system metadata. |
| 15:20.04 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: i didn't say the metadata but files within directories which they won't delete |
| 15:20.21 | c0fe_machine | i like shred since you can custom input the number overwrites |
| 15:20.28 | jelly | waressearcher2: also, the first thing you asked make me a bit suspicious about your motives so it would go a long way if you explained whether you had a technical issue with debian and what were you trying to achieve. |
| 15:20.32 | jelly | dpkg, tell waressearcher2 about ask |
| 15:20.34 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: Can you show us the error you get on http://paste.debian.net? |
| 15:21.02 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: no, that was a while ago and i have nothing to delete as of right now |
| 15:21.42 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: If in doubt, I'm sure you could easily circumvent any problems by doing 'find -type f | xargs wipe' in that dir. |
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| 15:21.48 | c0fe_machine | though i have always been curious if there is some way to delete the metadata |
| 15:22.07 | petn-randall | c0fe_machine: That's why you should be using encryption instead. |
| 15:22.07 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: you can get around it by writing a bash script, something i don't really want to do |
| 15:22.37 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: im talking about just erasing the metadata but an alternative to that |
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| 15:22.57 | helloworld_ | is there any good alternative to ecrypfs? |
| 15:23.07 | helloworld_ | Looking for creating an ecrypted (secure) directory |
| 15:23.39 | shawn | openssl can scramble and descramble files |
| 15:24.31 | helloworld_ | shawn: yeah, but then I would use gpg rather then opnenssl |
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| 15:25.51 | shawn | OK that was rude |
| 15:26.14 | shawn | gpg not ssl! /ragequit |
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| 15:26.54 | c0fe_machine | petn-randall: though here is the thing metadata won't allow you to recover the files, that's been debunked |
| 15:27.32 | petn-randall | debunked? Who claimed otherwise on filesystems? |
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| 15:32.48 | a-l-e | hey. after a long fight, i got debian to start X11 in a virtualbox on mac... now, i've upgraded to testing and again it does not work :-( |
| 15:32.56 | a-l-e | any idea what i could check? |
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| 15:33.48 | a-l-e | i have a bit of a hard time to share the xorg log file, since there is no browser working (no X...) and i have no idea how to use a pastebin from the command line... |
| 15:34.08 | a-l-e | X is installed with "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core \ |
| 15:34.08 | a-l-e | xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-fbdev \ |
| 15:34.10 | a-l-e | xserver-xorg-video-all" |
| 15:34.25 | c0fe_machine | a-l-e: you will need to download the file onto a GUI computer and then use the website |
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| 15:34.44 | the_weanus | a-l-e: grep /var/log/Xorg.0.log for 'EE' and/or 'WW' |
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| 15:36.01 | a-l-e | .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log say things like: |
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| 15:36.42 | c0fe_machine | a-l-e: is this running on bare metal or virtualized? |
| 15:36.54 | a-l-e | it's in virtualbox |
| 15:37.15 | petn-randall | !tell a-l-e -about pastebinit |
| 15:37.25 | a-l-e | that it could not load vboxvideo |
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| 15:38.33 | c0fe_machine | a-l-e: then usually there is a problem with the virtualbox installation |
| 15:39.09 | a-l-e | yeah, good hint petn-randall ! |
| 15:39.10 | a-l-e | http://paste.debian.net/318171 |
| 15:39.39 | a-l-e | the virtualbox correctly did run debian stable... |
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| 15:43.04 | yossarianuk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.06 | yossarianuk | I know on redhat systems you have something like -> 'rpm --setperms --setguids ' |
| 15:43.17 | yossarianuk | is there an equivalent for deb systems |
| 15:43.25 | a-l-e | here the list of installed packages... |
| 15:43.27 | a-l-e | http://paste.debian.net/318172 |
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| 15:46.04 | a-l-e | so, what can i do to further check my X11 install? |
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| 15:46.36 | greycat | a-l-e: I'd check that your virtual machine has a (virtual) video card |
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| 15:47.32 | mo1991reg | !bot |
| 15:47.32 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 15:47.40 | mo1991reg | !dpkg grep |
| 15:47.40 | dpkg | grep (global / regular expression / print) is a command line text search utility. It searches one or more input files for lines containing a match to a specified pattern, printing the matching lines by default. http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/ http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/ (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep) #grep on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 15:48.07 | a-l-e | greycat: any idea where i can check for it? |
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| 15:50.04 | a-l-e | lspci says: http://paste.debian.net/318174 |
| 15:50.09 | greycat | a-l-e: Hmm ... it looks like you need to install the package virtualbox-guest-x11 |
| 15:50.13 | a-l-e | so, there seems to be one... |
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| 15:50.54 | a-l-e | unable to locate virtualbox-guest-x11... |
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| 15:51.24 | greycat | It's in contrib. |
| 15:51.25 | a-l-e | ... adding contrib... |
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| 15:53.53 | a-l-e | greycat: still no success... |
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| 15:54.20 | greycat | Still the same error in Xorg.0.log? |
| 15:54.21 | wadadli | Anyone using i3? |
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| 15:54.30 | a-l-e | lspci says: http://paste.debian.net/31815 |
| 15:54.32 | a-l-e | ooops |
| 15:54.40 | a-l-e | lspci says: http://paste.debian.net/318175 |
| 15:54.54 | a-l-e | xorg.0.log ^ |
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| 15:55.16 | greycat | well, it found the vboxvideo driver |
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| 15:57.35 | a-l-e | yep, it found it... |
| 15:57.40 | a-l-e | but it still crashes... |
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| 15:58.31 | x86_64 | guys |
| 15:58.34 | x86_64 | do me a favour |
| 15:58.45 | x86_64 | tell me your: cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail |
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| 16:02.15 | dontknow | x86_64, it says 1950 |
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| 16:04.30 | dontknow | 1950 is good? |
| 16:04.39 | greycat | Higher than mine. |
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| 16:05.05 | blind | 1123 here.. |
| 16:05.22 | dontknow | it defines the randomness right? |
| 16:05.34 | Yolarina | Hi. I just installed Debian Stretch Alpha 3 from the ISO, and now gdm3 is causing the TTY to flicker rapidly. |
| 16:05.42 | Yolarina | Is anyone else having this issue? |
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| 16:06.17 | dontknow | Yolarina, #debian-next |
| 16:06.23 | Yolarina | Thanks. |
| 16:06.36 | Yolarina | dontknow, that channel is invite-only. |
| 16:06.48 | blind | /topic #debian-next |
| 16:06.52 | blind | (it's on a different network) |
| 16:07.32 | a-l-e | ok, going back to debian stable :-( |
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| 16:08.10 | dontknow | Yolarina, sorry, it is on irc.oftc.net. i didn't realize |
| 16:08.36 | x86_64 | muwahaha |
| 16:09.04 | x86_64 | blind, dontknow, 2298! :D |
| 16:09.08 | x86_64 | actually: |
| 16:09.10 | x86_64 | 2364! |
| 16:09.10 | x86_64 | :D |
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| 16:09.14 | x86_64 | way higher |
| 16:09.33 | Yolarina | dontknow, no problem. Found my way over there. :) |
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| 16:09.48 | greycat | So your system is idle except for a team of hamsters running on mouse scroll-wheels all day long. Congrats. |
| 16:09.54 | dontknow | x86_64, hmm. it changes every time for me! |
| 16:09.54 | x86_64 | i have haveged installed :3 |
| 16:10.00 | finetundra2234 | Anyone know if LXQT is in jessie? |
| 16:10.13 | markybob | dontknow, yes. it's supposed to |
| 16:10.16 | dontknow | x86_64, it says 2013 now |
| 16:10.22 | markybob | apparently this is rocket science |
| 16:10.24 | x86_64 | hmm |
| 16:10.57 | x86_64 | yeah it keeps filing up |
| 16:11.42 | dontknow | finetundra2234, it is not in repo |
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| 16:14.43 | srg | I have a system with an encrypted LVM. I installed it using the "guided partitioning - whole disk" in d-i. However, I'm running into problems and wish to resize / and /tmp. Here's my df: https://gist.github.com/srguglielmo/03545a9251f1eb1a3ee5 |
| 16:14.44 | dontknow | x86_64, i read that intel 3rd gen and beyond uses backdoored rdrnd to get randomness :D |
| 16:14.47 | srg | How can I go about doing this? |
| 16:15.17 | srg | I'm unable to run Android Studio and I have issues installing kernel updates because I run out of space. I'd like to take some space from /home. |
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| 16:15.40 | centrx | srg, Using parted/gparted, but I don't know how that works with encrypted LVM |
| 16:16.02 | srg | Yeah, that's my problem here. I've used gparted and stuff before, but with an encrypted LVM, not sure. |
| 16:16.12 | dontknow | srg, you can only resize lvm if you use luks on lvm or vice versa, i don't remember |
| 16:16.18 | x86_64 | dontknow, so...... haveged is now seriously flawed.... |
| 16:16.20 | x86_64 | oh shit |
| 16:16.27 | x86_64 | apt-get purge haveged immediately |
| 16:17.00 | dontknow | x86_64, i guess it is about cpu not the software that you use |
| 16:17.14 | srg | dontknow: Do you know what the debian installer uses? I didn't set this up manually so I have no idea |
| 16:17.29 | jelly | srg: show the output of "lsblk" |
| 16:17.32 | dontknow | srg, i don't know neither |
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| 16:18.43 | dontknow | srg, i guess it is luks on top of lvm |
| 16:18.53 | srg | jelly: It has crypt, then below that in the tree, the LVM entries. |
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| 16:19.04 | srg | I updated my gist paste above with the lsblk info |
| 16:20.14 | jelly | srg: looks nice. Boot to single user mode, umount /home, fsck -Cf /dev/mapper/lapsdeb-home, then resize first the filesystem, then the logical volume. |
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| 16:21.02 | srg | thanks so much! |
| 16:21.29 | srg | You had me until "first resize filesyste, then logical volume" but I'll figure it out - I'm a bit unfamiliar with LVM |
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| 16:22.12 | jelly | srg: eg. if you wanted to reduce it to 50GB, after fsck you'd do: resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/lapsdeb-home 50G (warning: can be rather slow), and after that, lvresize -L50G /dev/mapper/lapsdeb-home |
| 16:23.02 | jelly | oh... apparently the version of lvm2 (lvresize) in jessie can do the correct resize2fs for you automatically |
| 16:23.17 | jelly | has not tried that yet |
| 16:23.44 | srg | This is on stretch, but I did just backup the system, so I wont have a breakdown if I hose my drive, heh |
| 16:23.54 | srg | Thanks for the help! |
| 16:24.05 | jelly | previously you had to be careful to FIRST shrink the filesystem structures, only then shrink the underlying device (logical volume) |
| 16:24.15 | srg | ahh, ok |
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| 16:31.55 | jelly | srg: it's a very old, very silly default in debian-installer partman component that makes it use "100% of the remaining space" for /home, losing half the features of your lvm setup |
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| 16:35.35 | Lauwenmark | Hi |
| 16:38.00 | Lauwenmark | When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? |
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| 16:40.15 | unkmar | There was an easier way to change my name in linux than what I did. |
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| 16:41.19 | yaymuffins | Hello |
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| 16:42.23 | yaymuffins | I'm having a problem, I have a machine with the WAN interface and a tun0 from OpenVPN |
| 16:42.23 | unkmar | I did so on a different machine. Logout with that user completely. Login as root. Rename that user's folder, Change all instances of that user name in /etc/passwd and /etc/group. From root, passwd newUserName, Now you can use the new username WHERE the old username was. |
| 16:42.55 | yaymuffins | I want to use the VPN with a specific process with a specific user |
| 16:43.12 | yaymuffins | but it seem like only root truly go over tun0 when asked... |
| 16:43.14 | yaymuffins | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yuD1PdFR |
| 16:44.13 | petn-randall | unkmar: I wouldn't know a faster way. |
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| 16:44.30 | unkmar | yaymuffins: Random guess I my part. I'm not a VPN person. Something about group permissions. |
| 16:44.57 | yaymuffins | my user is in the openvpn group |
| 16:44.58 | unkmar | petn-randall: I was stating, that was the easier way. What I had done was create a new user and cp -r the previous user folder. That was slow and messy. |
| 16:45.18 | yaymuffins | also in the netdev one. |
| 16:45.41 | yaymuffins | I don't see any other group that could affect this |
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| 16:46.08 | jhutchins | unkmar: usermod. |
| 16:46.42 | jhutchins | unkmar: usermod --move-home --login <new-login-name> --home <new-home-dir> <old-login-name> or usermod -d /home/paul -m -g paul -l paul peter - the -g renames the group as well. |
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| 16:48.11 | unkmar | jhutchins: oh, so I should have asked here. |
| 16:48.14 | unkmar | nods |
| 16:48.36 | Lorner | heyo, newb question coming up |
| 16:48.39 | jhutchins | unkmar: Well, yes, or google. |
| 16:48.44 | jhutchins | unkmar: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
| 16:49.32 | Lorner | if i want to have the confirmation prompt which appears when using rm -i only in case i execute "rm -rf /" |
| 16:50.00 | Lorner | would that work if i set an alias for rm -rf / and replace it with rm -rfi / |
| 16:50.17 | Lorner | or did i miss something there |
| 16:50.33 | unkmar | aren't alias settings per user? |
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| 16:50.55 | greycat | Recent GNU coreutils has a special check for rm -rf / because they don't want you to destroy your system |
| 16:50.59 | Lorner | thats no problem, will be part of a system image with fixed users |
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| 16:51.48 | AlienCat | Hello, I got an issue |
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| 16:51.55 | Lorner | ah ok, will check if the version we are using has that protection already set up |
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| 16:52.09 | AlienCat | the stockholm timezone in wrong about DST |
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| 16:52.32 | AlienCat | I am one hour before time in sweden now |
| 16:52.39 | AlienCat | not sure how to fix it |
| 16:52.45 | greycat | Lorner: see "man rm", look for --preserve-root |
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| 16:53.25 | Lorner | awesome, its in there already. thanks a lot! |
| 16:53.28 | jhutchins | I seem to remember that the -i used to be the default, and it was aliased to be non-interactive. |
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| 16:53.55 | greycat | jhutchins: -i is only the default in fucking dumb-ass linux distributions that try to put training wheels on their users |
| 16:54.23 | jhutchins | greycat: At least until they figure out aliases. |
| 16:55.01 | greycat | Having to put "unalias rm cp mv" in your .bashrc because the system-wide default is written for morons would be depressing.... |
| 16:55.07 | greycat | Good thing I use Debian and not Red Hat. |
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| 16:55.25 | mo1991reg | I am having issues with html5 playback being very choppy in iceweasel. Works fine in Chrome. Anyone help? debian jessie. This seems to be a new issue for me. |
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| 16:56.04 | mo1991reg | and by chrome I meant chromium |
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| 17:02.31 | dominic1134 | i'm building a deb package which depends on mysql-server. i would like to suppress the mysql password prompts during installation with deb-set-selections inside my preinst, but this doesn't work, because my preinst get's executed after mysql-server install script is invoked. any workaround for this? |
| 17:02.57 | mo1991reg | for some reason the h264 codec seems disabled or will not install in iceweasel. Could this be the issue? |
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| 17:05.29 | jelly | jhutchins: RHEL and RH have, or used to have that idiot rm -i and mv -i alias |
| 17:05.40 | jelly | idiotic* |
| 17:06.06 | jelly | not a coreutils feature |
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| 17:09.33 | MrGaraj | hi all. can someone reccommend some tool which will help me adjust the color in debian jessie 8 ? |
| 17:09.43 | greycat | The color of what? |
| 17:10.09 | MrGaraj | the colors in general. they all look so pale and not colorfull |
| 17:10.15 | MrGaraj | just wanted to adjust them |
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| 17:11.08 | MrGaraj | just bought the laptop and installed debian (switched from ubuntu). I am using gnome(gdm3) |
| 17:11.50 | MrGaraj | and i couldn't find some manager for this ( installed tweak tool ) |
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| 17:13.13 | greycat | I'm guessing this is some gnome question. I don't know gnome. |
| 17:13.48 | markybob | probably sudo apt-get install gnome-color-manager |
| 17:14.03 | welpo | What does this message mean, after doing "apt-get install dump": update-alternatives: using /usr/sbin/rmt-dump to provide /usr/sbin/rmt (rmt) in auto mode |
| 17:14.10 | welpo | google just shows up a bunch of bug reports for ubuntu |
| 17:14.21 | AvatarA | gnome-look site, you have cursors, icons, gtk themes, shell themes etc. |
| 17:14.25 | greycat | welpo: ls -l /usr/sbin/rmt /etc/alternatives/rmt |
| 17:14.25 | MrGaraj | markybob: I installed it, but, to be sincere, how should i use it ? |
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| 17:15.48 | markybob | MrGaraj, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/gnome-color-manager/filelist look at the /usr/bin/ options (you can also do dpkg -L gnome-color-manager) |
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| 17:16.10 | markybob | but yeah...i don't use gnome, either. |
| 17:17.36 | mtn | MrGaraj, there is Color in system settings |
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| 17:19.48 | dominic1134 | i'm building a deb package which depends on mysql-server. i would like to suppress the mysql password prompts during installation with deb-set-selections inside my preinst, but this doesn't work, because my preinst get's executed after mysql-server install script is invoked. any workaround for this? |
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| 17:20.42 | jelly | dominic1134: nope, change your installation procedure to set up debconf answers in advance |
| 17:21.25 | dominic1134 | jelly, thanks |
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| 17:23.18 | Doxin | I've got a nvidia gtx 960, how do I get the proper drivers working? |
| 17:24.24 | welpo | greycat: what am I supposed to see with that? |
| 17:24.35 | jelly | Doxin: which debian release are you using? |
| 17:24.42 | greycat | welpo: two symlinks |
| 17:25.05 | Doxin | jelly: testing iirc |
| 17:25.05 | welpo | yeah but I still don't know why the message shows up or what it means |
| 17:25.11 | Doxin | jelly: not sure how I'd check |
| 17:25.30 | jelly | !debian suite |
| 17:25.30 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 17:25.36 | greycat | welpo: it's telling you that it changed your /usr/sbin/rmt alternative to the one provided by the package you just installed. |
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| 17:26.02 | Lauwenmark | When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? How could I debug it? |
| 17:26.03 | Doxin | jelly: sources.list has it at testing |
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| 17:26.31 | welpo | thanks greycat |
| 17:26.33 | jelly | Doxin: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy nvidia-detect", please |
| 17:26.44 | jelly | !paste |
| 17:26.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 17:27.13 | Doxin | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/318199/ and http://paste.debian.net/318200/ respectively |
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| 17:28.56 | MrGaraj | jelly: those are mine https://dpaste.de/rv0H |
| 17:29.09 | MrGaraj | I would like to also install the driver for my nvidia |
| 17:29.55 | jelly | Doxin: alright, install and run nvidia-detect, see what it says. You'll get better help for testing in #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net network, this one channel caters more to the released versions |
| 17:30.25 | jelly | MrGaraj: I'm sorry, I did not follow your issue |
| 17:30.35 | Slumlord_ | jelly, where do you recommend i go for printing help in debian |
| 17:30.41 | Doxin | jelly: nvidia-detect tells me Uh oh. Your card is not supported by any driver version up to 340.93. |
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| 17:31.38 | MrGaraj | so, what I'm looking for is either a way to improve the way colors look on my display, or just install the necessary drivers for my nvidia video card |
| 17:32.23 | jelly | Slumlord_: here, probably. Or debian-users mailing list |
| 17:32.29 | Slumlord_ | k |
| 17:32.43 | Slumlord_ | i know i did it a long time ago |
| 17:32.51 | Slumlord_ | but with this new printer it won't |
| 17:33.12 | jelly | Doxin: then... you're SOL for the time being? See if there's a newer version in unstable or experimental. |
| 17:33.16 | jelly | ,v nvidia-detect |
| 17:33.18 | judd | Package: nvidia-detect on amd64 -- squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.93-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.93-3; sid/non-free: 340.93-6; experimental/non-free: 352.55-2 |
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| 17:34.57 | Doxin | jelly: how would I know if a newer version supports this card without installing it first? |
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| 17:36.34 | greycat | It looks like nvidia-detect is just some kind of script. It only depends on pciutils. |
| 17:36.43 | jelly | Doxin: that's why you install nvidia-detect first |
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| 17:37.18 | jelly | it's not the driver, it's just a tool that tries to see if your card is supported at all |
| 17:37.18 | greycat | So it should be "safe" to install the experimental .deb with dpkg, run it, and then purge it and reinstall the version that matches your release. |
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| 17:37.54 | greycat | (That is not generally the case with other packages.) |
| 17:37.58 | jelly | Doxin is running testing anyway, doing the testing-unstable(-experimental) mix is probably just another day |
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| 17:39.41 | jmd | How does one install the non-free wifi blobs ? |
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| 17:40.14 | mtn | jmd, looked at the wiki? |
| 17:40.22 | jmd | which wiki? |
| 17:40.28 | jelly | !wireless |
| 17:40.28 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 17:40.33 | mtn | jmd, google: debian wiki wifi |
| 17:40.34 | jelly | ^^ that wiki |
| 17:40.57 | mtn | wikis are good |
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| 17:41.40 | greycat | sometimes |
| 17:41.58 | jmd | mtn: I have now. |
| 17:42.08 | mtn | jmd, good, it should help |
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| 17:42.27 | jmd | mtn: No. I think it'll be of very limited help. |
| 17:42.45 | mtn | jmd, it will answer your question in detail |
| 17:43.36 | jmd | for a start it says to run "aptitude install wireless-tools" obviously that wont work if you haven't got a network already working - in which case I wouldn't need to ask the question. |
| 17:43.56 | petn-randall | jmd: Do you have wired connection? |
| 17:44.05 | mtn | jmd, that is silly. how do you proprose to get any files then? |
| 17:44.21 | jmd | Then there is a section titles "Install Driver" - it lists a lot of drivers but the one thing it doesn't say is how to install any of them. |
| 17:44.31 | mtn | wanders off |
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| 17:45.31 | greycat | You need a wired connection or a removable medium you can move between a connected system and this one. |
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| 17:45.55 | greycat | Or, you need an install image that has the nonfree firmware already in it. |
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| 17:46.21 | jmd | greycat: Well assume I have a removable medium. Then what? |
| 17:46.36 | greycat | Get the names of the packages you need, download them on another box, copy them to the medium. |
| 17:47.16 | wsky | anyone using gnome 3 on jessie? gnome-tweak-tool seems to miss the buttonf for what it should do when the laptop lid is closed |
| 17:47.29 | jmd | Right. Non-Free packages come only as .dsc and .tar.gz I need both? |
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| 17:49.08 | greycat | You want the .deb files. |
| 17:49.21 | dontknow | wsky, you have to edit "/etc/systemd/logind.conf" |
| 17:49.22 | jmd | Url? |
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| 17:49.27 | ntz | hello |
| 17:49.45 | wsky | dontknow: right but then gnome overrides the setting and it does not work |
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| 17:50.06 | ntz | does blacklisting driver cause that batery won't get drained that much ... eg in optimus laptop blacklisting nouveau |
| 17:50.10 | waressearcher2 | jelly: "the first thing you asked make me a bit suspicious about your motives" the very first question when I joined was: "is anyone here ?" |
| 17:50.14 | dontknow | wsky, it shouldn't override |
| 17:50.18 | wsky | but it does |
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| 17:50.47 | jelly | waressearcher2: move the meta to -offtopic or PM, please |
| 17:50.52 | wsky | dontknow: when i first log in after reboot it does not work, then i log out and log in again and it starts working |
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| 17:53.15 | dontknow | wsky, are you on jessie? |
| 17:53.19 | wsky | yes. |
| 17:53.27 | wsky | i told already i am. |
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| 17:55.06 | dontknow | wsky, it works for me |
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| 17:57.49 | wsky | that does not help me at all |
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| 17:58.41 | wsky | is HandleLidSwitch=hibernate the only thing i need to set or is there anything lese |
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| 18:05.28 | Doxin | how long does it generally take for things from experimental to make it into testing? |
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| 18:06.31 | greycat | Some developer has to judge that it's ready for unstable, and upload it to unstable. Then there is an automatic process that moves things from unstable to testing, if it has been there for X days with no RC bugs and all deps met. |
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| 18:10.16 | molgrum | hi, what's the equivalent for centos /etc/sysconfig/network and NOZEROCONF=yes? |
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| 18:13.49 | DrManhattan | How do I force squeeze preseed to retry network configuration over and over again until it gets an IP address? |
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| 18:14.16 | jordanm | molgrum: maybe "post-up route add 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:14.46 | jordanm | DrManhattan: DHCP that unreliable? |
| 18:14.54 | molgrum | jordanm: thanks i'll try |
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| 18:15.15 | DrManhattan | jordanm: evidently, yes |
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| 18:17.46 | imnotarobot | Can I replace a running system with Debian by , in brief, debootstrapping it in into some folder, say, /debian , deleting everything on the / except /debian and copying every thing from /debian to / ? |
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| 18:18.01 | DanteLA | How can I give user raw disk access? |
| 18:18.03 | teraflops | molgrum: https://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf |
| 18:18.35 | greycat | imnotarobot: you'd have to boot from some other medium to do the final wipe-and-mv, because you can't do that in a running system's root |
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| 18:19.03 | greycat | imnotarobot: you'd also have to chroot into it (/msg dpkg chroot) and do the grub install |
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| 18:19.24 | SPF | DanteLA: add the user to the group disk |
| 18:19.28 | imnotarobot | greycat: can I avoid this by compiling busybox statically and running it during the replacement? |
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| 18:19.47 | greycat | This sounds insane. |
| 18:20.04 | imnotarobot | That is, but may it work? |
| 18:20.05 | molgrum | jordanm: how come that IP btw? |
| 18:20.30 | jordanm | molgrum: that's what I read NOZEROCONF does for rhel |
| 18:20.34 | greycat | Booting into a statically linked busybox shell is basically the same as booting from a USB/CDROM, isn't it? |
| 18:20.40 | molgrum | ah ok |
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| 18:21.17 | imnotarobot | Looks like yes. I do not have an opportunity to boot from anywhere else. |
| 18:21.58 | imnotarobot | And getting another partition takes a lot of time |
| 18:22.40 | greycat | I cannot promise that will work. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. |
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| 18:24.45 | eatingthenight | hello, I am trying to install php55 because i have to support an old application. But i can't seem to find if debian jessie has a php55 package |
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| 18:26.19 | eatingthenight | I think it should be listed here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/php/ |
| 18:26.19 | eatingthenight | but i only see php5.6 stuff listed |
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| 18:27.01 | greycat | I don't see any sign of multiple coexisting versions of php. |
| 18:27.47 | imnotarobot | greycat: looks like there is only one way to do it :) |
| 18:27.48 | greycat | With python for example there's python2.7 and python3.4 |
| 18:29.20 | eatingthenight | greycat: I just want php55. not to install both 55 and 56 |
| 18:29.30 | eatingthenight | But i can't seem to even find a php55 package to install |
| 18:29.33 | molgrum | maybe someone can answer this, i apologize for not asking in the right channel but i've been struggling all day with this. i want my Raspbian to "aggressively" ask for DHCP when it doesn't get it. i thought the NOZEROCONF would solve it but nope :( |
| 18:29.36 | teraflops | that's not the same, the php creapyness has no limits |
| 18:29.38 | greycat | ,v php5-fpm |
| 18:29.39 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.44-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.45-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.13+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.13+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch: 5.6.14+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.14+dfsg-1 |
| 18:30.08 | teraflops | crappyness* |
| 18:30.10 | greycat | Looks like you'll have to compile it yourself, from source. |
| 18:30.17 | eatingthenight | o dear |
| 18:30.30 | eatingthenight | i'm just going to rewrite the part of the app then |
| 18:30.35 | greycat | molgrum: ask in #raspbian, not here |
| 18:30.43 | eatingthenight | thanks greycat |
| 18:30.43 | molgrum | greycat: i am sorry |
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| 18:43.52 | g00se | Seems to be fantastically difficult to get some sort of XMPP account. Can someone please tell me how if they've got one? All i want to do is chat to my other half. Google is not allowing Pidgin |
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| 18:45.53 | caraconan | Hi there. It is possible to reproduce an .avi URL inside firefox without having to download the whole file first? Thanks |
| 18:46.03 | caraconan | I did this some years ago with totem plugin |
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| 18:47.19 | hstl | hi all! Who is online now in OFTC's #debian? Why no one ever write in OFTC server? it is very strange. |
| 18:47.47 | centrx | hstl, It's a lower traffic channel, but it does have activity |
| 18:48.12 | ewew | hstl It may depend on what you are asking. |
| 18:48.21 | hstl | centrx, there are 718 users online now |
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| 18:48.31 | greycat | Even this channel is much lower traffic than it was 5-10 years ago. |
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| 18:48.49 | abrotman | hstl: I wrote there just a few minutes before you joined |
| 18:48.50 | greycat | Despite having 2-3 times as many logged-in nicks. |
| 18:49.09 | abrotman | Also depends on the time of day |
| 18:49.33 | dontknow | hstl, they don't answers simple how to questions i guess |
| 18:49.42 | ewew | This is a global net. That means the people here are from many timezones. |
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| 18:50.43 | imnotarobot | greycat: Ubuntu steal our user base. The same for Fedora, since 1 year ago. |
| 18:51.15 | ewew | If someone is answering for same question for several times it gets anoying. |
| 18:51.19 | greycat | The users who prefer Ubuntu are free to use it. If they prefer a different OS then they wouldn't be happy here. |
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| 18:51.39 | petn-randall | hstl: Pretty much every technical channel has idle times. Don't expect to join and see some people chatting immediately. If you have questions, it might take an hour or two for people to notice and respond to it. |
| 18:51.41 | abrotman | OnThe ? |
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| 18:52.46 | dontknow | petn-randall, i believe they are cocky debian devs doesn't bother answer questions |
| 18:52.47 | ewew | Not everyone has a reserved space for chat window. |
| 18:53.02 | abrotman | dontknow: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 18:53.25 | dontknow | abrotman, not now! |
| 18:53.29 | abrotman | dontknow: then please be quiet |
| 18:53.30 | petn-randall | dontknow: No idea what you're talking about. |
| 18:53.32 | caraconan | Hi there. It is possible to reproduce an .avi URL inside firefox without having to download the whole file first? Thanks |
| 18:53.39 | abrotman | inflamatory comments aren't going to help |
| 18:53.42 | greycat | Does "reproduce" mean play? |
| 18:53.44 | abrotman | mm |
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| 18:53.58 | petn-randall | caraconan: "reproduce" in what sense? |
| 18:54.02 | abrotman | caraconan: AVI is a container |
| 18:54.13 | dontknow | abrotman, petn-randall i have asked questions on oftc multiple times didn't get any answer |
| 18:54.27 | petn-randall | caraconan: You can right click then click "copy link location". |
| 18:54.27 | caraconan | Click in the link and start reproducing it, without having to fully download the file |
| 18:54.30 | abrotman | dontknow: That doesn't mean you should sit here and disparage DDs or Debian helpers in general |
| 18:54.32 | markybob | dontknow, insulting won't help. a lot of us here are also on there |
| 18:55.32 | dontknow | markybob, so you answer questions here but not there? |
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| 18:55.53 | caraconan | petn-randall: there's no add-on or plugin to just with 1 click start reproducing the video? I can't believe that this was possible 5 or 6 years ago with totem and now I can't find the way... |
| 18:56.07 | abrotman | dontknow: people ansewr questions in both places .. |
| 18:56.10 | abrotman | answer even |
| 18:56.11 | markybob | dontknow, maybe we're busy actually working and only have time to have one channel up at once. maybe we're just tired. maybe we don't the answer or didn't see it fly by |
| 18:56.25 | markybob | abrotman, there's a rule against cross-posting anyway |
| 18:56.29 | markybob | oops |
| 18:56.35 | markybob | not for abrotman :/ |
| 18:57.05 | caraconan | Thanks anyway, I will keep investigating |
| 18:57.06 | abrotman | if you don't get your answer .. Far better to be patient, ask again in an hour or so |
| 18:57.20 | abrotman | Antagonizing people surely won't help |
| 18:57.30 | Lauwenmark | When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? How could I debug it? |
| 18:57.50 | petn-randall | dontknow: My backlog says you asked questions and got answers. |
| 18:58.13 | dontknow | petn-randall, it is very rare |
| 18:58.15 | greycat | caraconan: does browser-plugin-vlc not work for your URLs? |
| 18:59.10 | petn-randall | dontknow: And it's getting rarer by the minute. |
| 18:59.13 | abrotman | rarely gets free money ... |
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| 18:59.47 | dontknow | petn-randall, it is fact that this channel is much more active than there |
| 18:59.48 | petn-randall | caraconan: Ah, I think the word you're looking for is _streaming_. Yeah, I guess there are quite a few plugins that support that. |
| 19:00.00 | greycat | dontknow: so what do you want us to do about it? |
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| 19:00.55 | dontknow | greycat, it makes me think that oftc doesn't answer simple how to questions |
| 19:00.58 | abrotman | dontknow: depends on the time of day, seriously |
| 19:00.59 | Lauwenmark | dontknow: Maybe people don't answer your questions just because nobody knows the answer? After all, not everybody has infinite science. |
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| 19:01.11 | abrotman | dontknow: it's mostly the same people |
| 19:01.25 | dontknow | lol i wouldn't expect such resistance lol |
| 19:01.28 | abrotman | dontknow: do you need actual help? |
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| 19:01.33 | dontknow | WTF? |
| 19:01.36 | abrotman | Your whining is getting old .. |
| 19:01.44 | abrotman | people help in both channels, on a regular basis |
| 19:01.49 | abrotman | both networks |
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| 19:09.44 | petn-randall | !next |
| 19:09.45 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 19:10.22 | greycat | Not the black boxy m68k machines? |
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| 19:12.31 | jhutchins | dontknow: The irc channels are just fellow users. It's quite rare to get a current maintainer/developer on line, and people tend to abuse them if they find out. |
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| 19:12.58 | jhutchins | dontknow: The oftc channel is just lower traffic, not as many people watching/active. |
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| 19:13.26 | jhutchins | dontknow: The fact that we've created a dozen specialized channels over there also splits the field up and means those channels are likely to be dead. |
| 19:13.53 | jhutchins | dontknow: If you're looking for a basic howto on something, search the web. |
| 19:14.32 | dontknow | jhutchins, it makes the oftc quite useless maybe |
| 19:14.42 | greycat | So don't use it? |
| 19:14.49 | rrva | If I create a company internal .deb package based on upstream sources of a package where upstream source is not GPL-licensed (for example MIT or BSD), am I still obliged to provide source? |
| 19:14.59 | dontknow | greycat, i don't |
| 19:15.01 | jhutchins | dontknow: No, it depends on the specific time. Some days, some times of the day it's fine. |
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| 19:15.07 | greycat | dontknow: then stop bitching about it |
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| 19:15.47 | LordShadowWing | Some minor issues with Nouveau (Latest linux-libre kernel) with Geforce GTX 750 Ti |
| 19:15.59 | petn-randall | rrva: That depends on the license. MIT and BSD don't have any copyleft, so you usually don't need to provide the source (IANAL). |
| 19:16.04 | greycat | rrva: I think most people would agree that using your packages only within a single company doesn't count as "distributing" for the purposes of the GPL's "you must also distribute source" clause. |
| 19:16.13 | ewew | dontknow move to #debian-offtopic |
| 19:16.21 | greycat | And yes, BSD licenses don't require source-giving in the first place. |
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| 19:17.04 | rrva | ok, then what if I would include that .deb package in an appliance sold to customer (still upstream source is BSD or MIT) |
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| 19:17.22 | greycat | Then you'd have to follow the conditions of the license. |
| 19:17.28 | dontknow | greycat, jhutchins i answered hstl based on my experience. |
| 19:17.29 | rrva | the .deb packaging in itself does not provide any license tain |
| 19:17.31 | rrva | taint |
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| 19:18.15 | rrva | Of course if it is GPL licensed, then I would provide source to anyone who asks for it |
| 19:18.29 | rrva | and doing it on an asks-basis should be enough |
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| 19:20.13 | dontknow | jhutchins, greycat, petn-randall, markybob, abrotman it is not something to make it big issue |
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| 19:20.59 | petn-randall | dontknow: fine by me, let's drop this topic for now. |
| 19:21.24 | dontknow | it is mixed with joke |
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| 19:55.15 | torpet | Hi, I have upgraded to a bpo kernel on Debian 8 because of better touchpad support. For some reason firmware-iwlwifi (from bpo) seems to work with the iwlwifi driver, but dmesg tells me it's too old for the kernel 4.2 iwlwifi module. |
| 19:55.27 | torpet | So the solution is to download it manually from http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/ |
| 19:55.55 | torpet | testing and unstable seem to have this build available, but I wanted to avoid adding the testing repos only for a single package. |
| 19:56.11 | torpet | Do you think there is a better solution other than manually downloading the firmware? |
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| 19:57.34 | Lauwenmark | torpet: I'm not specialist of this, but maybe you could download the unstable firmware package source, and make a bpo package out of it, and then install it using dpkg -i ? Not sure it is any better, but at least the firmware would be package-managed. |
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| 19:59.00 | torpet | Lauwenmark: Yeah that sounds like a good idea |
| 19:59.03 | galex|713 | What’s the IRC canal for LUKS/DMCrypt? |
| 19:59.04 | torpet | Thanks |
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| 20:03.44 | Lauwenmark | torpet: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation May be of some use, if you never did this before. |
| 20:05.27 | torpet | Lauwenmark: Thanks |
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| 20:05.46 | kid4coding | hi all |
| 20:06.02 | Lauwenmark | hi |
| 20:06.19 | kid4coding | I recently installed Debian....I did not use Linux for around years |
| 20:06.45 | kid4coding | I installed Gnome with Cinnamon, but I do not like it at all |
| 20:07.02 | kid4coding | I was wondering if I can just use Gnome or KDE |
| 20:07.12 | kid4coding | The same desktop looks awful |
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| 20:09.00 | abrotman | you can use anything you like |
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| 20:09.24 | kid4coding | I was wondering if can receive some help to switch |
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| 20:09.44 | german_ | Hi |
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| 20:09.56 | german_ | http://paste.debian.net/318232/ |
| 20:09.59 | german_ | Help please |
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| 20:10.03 | german_ | In debian 8 64 bits |
| 20:10.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | german_: you need a graphics driver. |
| 20:10.52 | german_ | yes |
| 20:11.01 | german_ | drivers nvidia privates |
| 20:11.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | i don't know what that is, but i'm telling you that you need to install a graphics driver. |
| 20:11.44 | german_ | Install .run |
| 20:12.04 | german_ | I have already installed |
| 20:12.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | no, you didn't. |
| 20:12.10 | german_ | Have aceleration 3d |
| 20:12.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | if you had, then steam would be working. and based on that error message, it's not. |
| 20:12.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's trying to use software rendering, which only happens if there is no hardware acceleration available. |
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| 20:13.31 | towo` | german_, you have break your system with installing nvidia-drivers with the run installer |
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| 20:13.54 | abrotman | dpkg: tell german_ about nvidia |
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| 20:14.35 | german_ | They are installed and have 3d acceleration |
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| 20:14.46 | towo` | german_, steam need 32bit libs from nvidia, but with the run, you have now a broken alternatives-system |
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| 20:15.15 | german_ | root@Debian:/home/german# glxinfo | grep direct |
| 20:15.15 | german_ | direct rendering: Yes |
| 20:15.16 | german_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.47 | towo` | german_, are you to stupid to read? |
| 20:15.56 | Lauwenmark | german_: What brand of gfx card/chipset do you have? Nvidia, amd, or intel? |
| 20:16.02 | towo` | german_, and btw, glxinfo as root is stupid³ |
| 20:16.04 | german_ | nvidia 7025 |
| 20:16.07 | german_ | 32 bookstores also installed |
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| 20:17.01 | Lauwenmark | german_: lsmod shows nvidia driver loaded, and you also added it in the xorg.conf (or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/) ? |
| 20:17.05 | german_ | It may be that the package "mesa" conflict table? |
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| 20:17.57 | german_ | root@Debian:/home/german# lsmod shows |
| 20:17.58 | german_ | Usage: lsmod |
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| 20:19.38 | foreverska | Hey I'm trying to install nvidia-settings and I'm getting guff about the screen-resolution-extra package not being installable (jessie). Anyone know whats up? |
| 20:19.57 | german_ | Lauwenmark, http://paste.debian.net/318233/ |
| 20:20.24 | jhutchins | !es |
| 20:20.25 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃÂnea de chat. |
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| 20:21.33 | Lauwenmark | german_: Unless specific needs, usually only the lines related to the nvidia driver are needed. Example: http://paste.debian.net/318235/ |
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| 20:22.41 | german_ | http://paste.debian.net/318236/ |
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| 20:24.33 | Lauwenmark | german_: Ok, next is to install the i386 version of the opengl libs. |
| 20:24.50 | Lauwenmark | german_: "dpkg --add-architecture i386" to add the i386 arch packages. |
| 20:25.01 | RelyingFawn | woah woah I just got here |
| 20:25.18 | RelyingFawn | installing arch packages...on an arch system right ? |
| 20:25.26 | Lauwenmark | german_: Then "aptitude update" and "aptitude install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386" |
| 20:25.43 | german_ | RelyingFawn, debian |
| 20:25.48 | german_ | Lauwenmark, ok |
| 20:25.53 | RelyingFawn | ah |
| 20:25.56 | Lauwenmark | RelyingFawn: "arch" = "cpu architecture", not "ArchLinux" :) |
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| 20:26.20 | german_ | Lauwenmark, aptitude or apt-get? |
| 20:26.20 | RelyingFawn | right yeah that just made sense to me now. is this for installing steam by any chance? |
| 20:26.37 | Lauwenmark | german_: Same. I prefer apt-get myself, usually. |
| 20:26.38 | RelyingFawn | either or german |
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| 20:28.08 | german_ | Lauwenmark, conflic. |
| 20:28.20 | Lauwenmark | german_: paste :) |
| 20:28.45 | german_ | install the driver .run |
| 20:28.46 | RelyingFawn | asking you to remove a driver? |
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| 20:29.11 | german_ | using nvidia .run |
| 20:29.30 | Lauwenmark | german_: Don't install the .run drivers for nvidia, ever. You'll run into trouble. |
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| 20:29.56 | torpet | Lauwenmark: You mean I can't install debian arch nvidia .run on archlinux via dpkg? |
| 20:29.57 | Lauwenmark | german_: If you did, uninstall them using the .run, and reinstall them from the debian repositories. |
| 20:30.07 | german_ | No works package for nvidia 7025 |
| 20:30.32 | RelyingFawn | torpet, you can but we wouldn't recommend it |
| 20:30.43 | Lauwenmark | torpet: I don't know about archlinux. Above, "arch" meant "architecture", that's i386 or amd64. |
| 20:31.04 | Lauwenmark | torpet: For nvidia drivers, unless you have a damn good reason, stick with those shipped as debian packages. |
| 20:31.21 | RelyingFawn | ^^ |
| 20:31.31 | torpet | Lauwenmark: There was a bit of sarcasm involved, but thanks for your explanation. |
| 20:31.32 | torpet | :D |
| 20:31.32 | german_ | debian packages I do not work |
| 20:31.33 | german_ | :( |
| 20:31.37 | Lauwenmark | torpet: :D |
| 20:31.44 | Lauwenmark | german_: What is the problem with them? |
| 20:32.05 | german_ | black screen |
| 20:32.26 | torpet | german_: try "dpkg --add-architecture ArchLinux" |
| 20:32.30 | Lauwenmark | german_: If those in Jessie (stable) are too old for your gfx card, you can try to add the "experimental" repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list, and install those instead. |
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| 20:32.56 | Lauwenmark | torpet: huh? |
| 20:32.57 | german_ | ok |
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| 20:33.07 | torpet | Lauwenmark: I am messing around, but enough of the lame jokes now. |
| 20:33.14 | torpet | There are nvidia drivers available via backports german_ |
| 20:33.19 | german_ | tutorial packages for Debian experimental? |
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| 20:33.33 | RelyingFawn | the testing repos will have newer drivers |
| 20:33.36 | german_ | torpet, blacnports or non-free? |
| 20:33.44 | Lauwenmark | german_: add a line similar to "deb http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib" in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:33.46 | RelyingFawn | I'd not really recommend using testing |
| 20:33.51 | Lauwenmark | german_: Then do "apt-get update" |
| 20:34.13 | Lauwenmark | german_: experimental packages are installed using "apt-get install -t experimental <packagename>" |
| 20:34.15 | RelyingFawn | what GPU do you have? |
| 20:34.42 | german_ | Lauwenmark, and packages are? |
| 20:34.54 | towo` | nvidia-driver will never support a geforce 7xxx |
| 20:35.03 | towo` | since this card is a legacy card |
| 20:35.33 | RelyingFawn | ha wow geforce 7 thats a blast from the past :D |
| 20:35.35 | torpet | https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver |
| 20:35.35 | towo` | that's why one has to use the correspond nvidia-legacy-driver package |
| 20:35.45 | Lauwenmark | towo`: good catch indeed! |
| 20:35.53 | german_ | nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver |
| 20:36.05 | Lauwenmark | german_: Your driver package would be nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver. |
| 20:36.15 | Lauwenmark | german_: And indeed, no use for experimental in that case. |
| 20:36.24 | german_ | towo`, the same package does not work for me |
| 20:36.24 | RelyingFawn | adding testing / experimental to the sources.list then would most likely just break the system |
| 20:36.31 | towo` | it works |
| 20:36.38 | towo` | if it is installed propperly |
| 20:36.39 | RelyingFawn | not like it is a GTX980 Ti or something |
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| 20:37.16 | RelyingFawn | Can you use LightDM? |
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| 20:37.29 | RelyingFawn | what DE are you using? |
| 20:37.49 | RelyingFawn | When does the screen go black ? Before or after logging in ? |
| 20:37.51 | towo` | german_, apt-get install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms |
| 20:37.55 | german_ | debian 7 packages work well |
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| 20:38.15 | Lauwenmark | german_: What was the version of the debian 7 nvidia drivers you used? |
| 20:38.17 | german_ | I have debian 7 problems |
| 20:38.25 | german_ | I have debian 8 problems |
| 20:38.27 | german_ | sorry |
| 20:38.40 | RelyingFawn | german_, one thing at a time buddy |
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| 20:38.51 | Lauwenmark | german_: I understand the pain for sure :) |
| 20:38.51 | german_ | ok |
| 20:39.12 | RelyingFawn | You uhh don't seem to be having a lot of luck with Debian... :P Sorry |
| 20:39.28 | german_ | I again debian seven wheezy? |
| 20:39.33 | RelyingFawn | Have you considered your GPU is just not up to the task of running anything that isn't LXDE |
| 20:39.34 | Lauwenmark | RelyingFawn: I indeed don't with Jessie. |
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| 20:39.42 | Lauwenmark | german_: 7 was wheezy, yes. |
| 20:40.05 | RelyingFawn | yeah wheezy the Penguin dude from Toy Story my Jessie experience is ok so far |
| 20:40.41 | german_ | Lauwenmark, |
| 20:40.41 | Lauwenmark | RelyingFawn: You don't need a powerful GPU to display gnome, kde and others. You just lose some eyecandy. |
| 20:40.42 | german_ | He had no problems with wheezy |
| 20:41.23 | RelyingFawn | I know I got gnome3 on a lenovo x200 |
| 20:41.24 | Lauwenmark | german_: Can you paste your dmesg output and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 20:41.51 | german_ | ok |
| 20:41.53 | RelyingFawn | older GPU's in my experience don't like gdm |
| 20:42.02 | RelyingFawn | thats why I was recommending LightDM |
| 20:42.23 | Lauwenmark | RelyingFawn: Can't you disable compositing under Gnome/GDM? |
| 20:42.32 | german_ | http://paste.debian.net/318240/ |
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| 20:43.16 | german_ | http://paste.debian.net/318241/ |
| 20:44.19 | RelyingFawn | Lauwenmark, it should be possible yes but I am not too sure on how you can do that if you cant see anything at startup :P |
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| 20:45.43 | Lauwenmark | german_: ok, your gfx card is recognized with 304.128. Debian Jessie has 304.125. Is it possible for you to install the legacy package suggested above and check what the logs contain? |
| 20:46.04 | teraflops | how can one disable mutter? |
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| 20:46.21 | Lauwenmark | RelyingFawn: ssh. Or rescue mode. Or disable xdm/gdm/kdm and start with startx instead. |
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| 20:47.44 | Lauwenmark | RelyingFawn: Now admittedly, configuring gnome without gnome seems very hard these days. Why people keep using such a brainfuxed DE goes beyond me. In any case, it shouldn't go as far as a black screen, unless the driver+gfx card combination is broken or pre-opengl. |
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| 20:49.21 | Lauwenmark | (what I do in such cases is run minimalistic startx and fvwm, and re-enable once that works properly.) |
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| 20:50.55 | Lauwenmark | When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? How could I debug it? |
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| 20:52.58 | Exagone313 | Hi, I use w3m to go to a website through ssh, and I want to copy a link location. How can I do it? I see somewhere a "ESC then M" shortcut but how to I paste on console output? |
| 20:52.59 | RelyingFawn | well...where are the config files for that? |
| 20:53.32 | RelyingFawn | ' locate xkbmap ' ?? :S |
| 20:54.09 | Lauwenmark | ? |
| 20:54.31 | RelyingFawn | did you try simply pressing ' m ' @ Exagone313 |
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| 20:54.52 | Exagone313 | then what do I do after m? |
| 20:55.20 | RelyingFawn | Well that should be it pasted if using w3m |
| 20:55.30 | Exagone313 | pasted where? |
| 20:55.48 | Exagone313 | I don't have a clipboard via ssh |
| 20:56.06 | RelyingFawn | ....i unno.... |
| 20:56.24 | Lauwenmark | Exagone313: mmm. Where do you want to actually paste the link location? |
| 20:56.30 | Exagone313 | is there an alternative console browser that let me save a link location? |
| 20:56.41 | Exagone313 | just echo it |
| 20:56.48 | Exagone313 | so I can see it and copy it |
| 20:56.52 | RelyingFawn | elinks? |
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| 21:01.26 | Lauwenmark | Exagone313: mmm. w3m allows to save bookmarks, I think, maybe save the url as bookmarks, and then open the bookmark file with a text editor? |
| 21:01.36 | jhutchins | lynx will display the URL so you can cut-and-paste it. |
| 21:01.42 | Exagone313 | but it's a link, not the cur'rent page |
| 21:02.02 | jhutchins | Exagone313: A link on the page? |
| 21:02.15 | Exagone313 | ok I use curl and I read html .... |
| 21:02.56 | Exagone313 | the problem is I want to download a big file with curl instead of w3m |
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| 21:03.15 | Exagone313 | the problem is ssh close the session by inactivity |
| 21:03.20 | Exagone313 | so the download is stopped |
| 21:03.31 | quantic | nohup and/or background the process? |
| 21:03.33 | Exagone313 | with curl I can use "&" to do not wait the process |
| 21:03.38 | Exagone313 | yes I can screen it |
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| 21:03.54 | Exagone313 | ok I do that |
| 21:04.09 | quantic | Exagone313: nohup is gonna be your friend here. I'll continue the process after your SSH session dies. |
| 21:04.11 | Lauwenmark | Exagone313: ESC-a in w3m bookmarks the current page. |
| 21:04.23 | quantic | Exagone313: nohup curl blah & |
| 21:04.38 | Exagone313 | what is the difference between screen and nohup? |
| 21:04.50 | jhutchins | Lauwenmark: He wants to copy a link on the current page without actually visiting it. |
| 21:04.53 | quantic | Exagone313: nohup just says "don't kill me bro" when your terminal session ends. |
| 21:05.12 | greycat | screen allows you to detach and reattach, and a million other things |
| 21:05.19 | Exagone313 | nohup: ignoring input and appending output to ‘nohup.out’ |
| 21:05.31 | jhutchins | Exagone313: Nohup only runs a command in background (and logs output). Screen does a lot of things, including persistent sessions. |
| 21:05.44 | Lauwenmark | jhutchins: Ah. I thought he wanted to get the URL of the currenly open page, and use that url with curl, sorry. |
| 21:05.46 | Exagone313 | ok I'll use screen with w3m |
| 21:06.47 | Exagone313 | it's for a downloading website that restrict ip, so I use servers to have multiple ip |
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| 21:07.58 | Exagone313 | well thanks for your help |
| 21:08.18 | Lauwenmark | How can I force the keyboard mapping of slim? |
| 21:09.35 | jhutchins | ,info slim |
| 21:09.37 | judd | Package slim (x11, optional) in jessie/amd64: desktop-independent graphical login manager for X11. Version: 1.3.6-4; Size: 1437.9k; Installed: 2059k; Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/slim.berlios/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/slim |
| 21:11.14 | Lauwenmark | mmm. |
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| 21:18.32 | Lauwenmark | How can I force-set the keyboard mapping of slim? |
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| 21:19.57 | rabbitear | man xmodmap |
| 21:20.11 | iio7 | I have a small LAN with several boxes and a local DNS. Each box is setup to use the local DNS. If I do "host foo.webserver.local" I get "foo.webserver.local has address 192.168.1.3", but if I do "ping foo.webserver.local", I get "ping: unknown host: foo.webserver.local". |
| 21:20.54 | iio7 | I can also do "dig" and "nslookup", but ping or a browser cannot locate the host. |
| 21:22.16 | ewew | iio7 Check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:22.21 | Lauwenmark | rabbitear: ? |
| 21:22.39 | iio7 | ewew, it has only the IP of the local DNS server. |
| 21:22.54 | jhutchins | iio7: Check /etc/nsswitch |
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| 21:23.47 | iio7 | jhutchins, Do you mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? |
| 21:24.24 | jhutchins | iio7: Are there any apple hosts involved here? |
| 21:24.53 | iio7 | jhutchins, no, only Debian boxes. |
| 21:25.27 | ewew | iio7 What exactly do you have in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:25.44 | jhutchins | iio7: Are you using just a hostname or a fqdn? |
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| 21:26.30 | iio7 | ewew, I have nameserver and the IP of the local DNS server. |
| 21:26.44 | iio7 | jhutchins, I have tried both, same result. |
| 21:26.47 | Lauwenmark | iio7: I wonder if http://superuser.com/questions/704785/ping-cant-resolve-hostname-but-nslookup-can is anything relevant? |
| 21:27.22 | jhutchins | iio7: Are there any spaces at the beginning of the lines in resolv.conf? |
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| 21:29.38 | jhutchins | iio7: It could be a problem with mdns as well. |
| 21:30.34 | iio7 | Lauwenmark, it looks very much like that is the problem! |
| 21:30.37 | jhutchins | iio7: What does the "hosts" line from nsswitch.conf say? |
| 21:31.15 | ewew | jhutchins This means avahi-daemon is interfiering. |
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| 21:31.44 | Lauwenmark | iio7: nice :) |
| 21:32.04 | iio7 | If I stop the avahi daemon, then everything works as it should |
| 21:32.22 | iio7 | jhutchins, I have "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns" |
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| 21:32.36 | Lauwenmark | iio7: Then the "fix" in http://www.lowlevelmanager.com/2011/09/fix-linux-dns-issues-with-local.html would do the trick, I'd say. Or not use avahi. |
| 21:32.45 | jhutchins | iio7: Bingo. Remove mdns4_minimal and it will work. |
| 21:33.01 | ewew | Why is this allowed ? Its a Apple zeroconf ? |
| 21:33.07 | jhutchins | iio7: Possibly it'll work if you remove [NOTFOUND=return] |
| 21:34.31 | ewew | Better way is to disable avahi permanetly. |
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| 21:35.35 | iio7 | Yes, I don't need that! |
| 21:35.39 | Lauwenmark | iio7: http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal is worth reading for properly "fix" it, and also why it behaves so by default. |
| 21:35.43 | foul_owl | Hi folks. Trying to do "sudo dpkg -L libcuda1" but I get "dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs a valid package name but 'libcuda1' is not: ambiguous package name 'libcuda1' with more than one installed instance" |
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| 21:35.57 | foul_owl | My goal is to determine my CUDA root directory |
| 21:36.11 | iio7 | Thanks guys for all the help, would have never found the avahi problem! |
| 21:36.14 | ewew | iio7 Isnt this a violation of RFC when using .local ? |
| 21:36.57 | iio7 | ewew, I don't know. |
| 21:37.30 | Lauwenmark | When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? How could I debug it? |
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| 21:38.31 | ewew | Does anyone know why avahi is still in debian ? |
| 21:39.07 | Lauwenmark | Why wouldn't it be? |
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| 21:40.39 | asig | ewew? |
| 21:40.54 | ewew | Opened ports. Probable entry point. |
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| 21:41.23 | jhutchins | ewew: Not really. |
| 21:41.44 | ewew | ok. just trying to disable not needed services. |
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| 21:43.39 | jhutchins | ewew: Good practice, and the installer should probably ask before enabling it - but that's true of pulseaudion too. |
| 21:43.52 | jhutchins | s/pulsaudion/pulseaudio |
| 21:44.20 | jhutchins | (Funny, I did that in HipChat (proprietary chat prog) and it actually edited my post.) |
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| 21:44.52 | ewew | Im reading securite related materials for debian and general security practice. |
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| 21:44.57 | Lauwenmark | ah, pulseaudio. |
| 21:44.58 | iio7 | Interesting: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393711 |
| 21:44.59 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/393711 in nss-mdns (closed): «libnss-mdns: /etc/nsswitch.conf configuration is broken»; severity: serious; opened: 2006-10-17; last modified: 2007-06-24. |
| 21:46.04 | jhutchins | iio7: It's not a Debian bug, bunch of distros and Apple have the same problem. |
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| 21:47.23 | iio7 | jhutchins, I know, but it was interesting reading regarding the issue ;P |
| 21:47.39 | ewew | When talking about pulseaudio. It has some strange behavior when using keyboard mute. Unmute does not work. |
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| 21:48.42 | torpet | Lauwenmark: backporting the iwlwifi driver worked fine, thanks |
| 21:48.48 | Lauwenmark | pulseaudio never really worked on my desktop system. I simply remove it nowadays and rely on pure alsa. |
| 21:48.54 | Lauwenmark | torpet: nice! |
| 21:49.57 | ewew | But also from skype they desidet to remove alsa support. So its stuck with pulseaudio. |
| 21:49.59 | jhutchins | Lauwenmark: Mine just randomly failed one day and wouldn't come back, so I purged it. Alsa does everything I need. |
| 21:50.01 | torpet | Lauwenmark: speaking of pulse audio, coincidentally saw there is pulseaudio 7 in stable |
| 21:50.05 | torpet | maybe that works for you |
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| 21:50.13 | Lauwenmark | jhuebner: same. |
| 21:50.42 | jhutchins | I can skype on my phone or tablet. |
| 21:50.46 | Lauwenmark | arg, wrong tab completion :D |
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| 21:51.18 | Lauwenmark | torpet: Why would I? Alsa does all what I require. pulseaudio caused me lot of trouble for no gain. |
| 21:51.21 | ewew | jhutchins So can i. But wifi close to head is not a good idea. |
| 21:51.43 | ewew | jhutchins Using android cell phone. |
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| 21:52.21 | jhutchins | ewew: Right. Because birds, who are so sensitive to electromagnetic radiation that they can "see" the earth's magnetic field, never perch on power lines or cell towers. |
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| 21:52.58 | jhutchins | Paranoia just means you'll miss the real threats while freaking out about the fake ones. |
| 21:53.07 | Lauwenmark | Also, wouldn't https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse do the trick anyway? |
| 21:53.50 | John_C | I installed jessie, but didn't find root folder in /, anyone knows why? |
| 21:54.09 | ewew | jhutchins PC has more computation power. However this is offtopic. |
| 21:55.38 | Lauwenmark | John_C: no idea. Mine got a /root, and is a fresh Jessie install. |
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| 21:56.29 | afidegnum | hi all, i m having a dedicated server and I on debian, and I would like to create a virtual machine to have Windows install to have a dedicated applicaiton to bridge with Linux, |
| 21:56.43 | afidegnum | can you please give the steps involved. |
| 21:56.45 | afidegnum | ? |
| 21:56.53 | John_C | Lauwenmark: yes , it is a fresh install |
| 21:57.12 | foul_owl | Hi folks. Trying to do "sudo dpkg -L libcuda1" but I get "dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs a valid package name but 'libcuda1' is not: ambiguous package name 'libcuda1' with more than one installed instance" |
| 21:57.16 | foul_owl | My goal is to determine my CUDA root directory |
| 21:58.31 | Lauwenmark | afidegnum: I often use VirtualBox to run a Wintendo box on my desktop system. On server deployments, proxmox is what I rely on the most. Maybe have a look at those two? |
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| 21:59.38 | afidegnum | well, the remote server is only Terminal based, no GUI, how do I run the VIrtuaLbox there? |
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| 21:59.54 | John_C | is it a bug? |
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| 22:00.33 | Lauwenmark | foul_owl: try "sudo dpkg -L libcuda1:i386" |
| 22:01.43 | Lauwenmark | afidegnum: Then check proxmox. It uses an http interface to handle VMs. Or rely on qemu (proxmox is mainly debian+kvm/qemu with a nice remote management interface) |
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| 22:03.10 | Lauwenmark | afidegnum: If you already have a debian setup running, https://wiki.debian.org/KVM may be a good starting point. |
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| 22:04.38 | Lauwenmark | John_C: Could be. What happens when you try to log in as the "root" user? What is its home dir, if any? |
| 22:05.27 | Lauwenmark | John_C: Else, just mkdir /root, and copy the base files from /etc/skel/ ? |
| 22:05.55 | John_C | Lauwenmark: never login with root, just su |
| 22:06.03 | John_C | i will try |
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| 22:10.39 | foreverska | Hey I'm trying to install nvidia-settings and I'm getting guff about the screen-resolution-extra package not being installable (jessie). Anyone know whats up? |
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| 22:12.21 | abrotman | can you show us in paste.debian.net ? |
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| 22:13.16 | foreverska | http://paste.debian.net/318260/ |
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| 22:13.46 | vvH1p|a5h | Please, how can I put the debian8.2.0-amd64.iso image on an USBdrive to install from it? |
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| 22:14.02 | abrotman | dpkg: tell vvH1p|a5h about usb install |
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| 22:14.32 | abrotman | dpkg: versions screen-resolution-extra |
| 22:14.33 | dpkg | abrotman: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 22:14.38 | abrotman | judd: versions screen-resolution-extra |
| 22:14.39 | judd | No package named 'screen-resolution-extra' was found in amd64. |
| 22:14.55 | John_C | Lauwenmark: thanks, cd ~ is normal after mkdir /root, and copy the base files from /etc/skel/, |
| 22:14.58 | Lauwenmark | foreverska: mmm. "aptitude show nvidia-settings" gives you what exacty? |
| 22:15.07 | Lauwenmark | John_C: nice! |
| 22:15.13 | abrotman | foreverska: show usthe full command, and the sources.list |
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| 22:15.29 | John_C | Lauwenmark, you best |
| 22:15.42 | Lauwenmark | (screen-resolution-extra smells ubuntu-esque) |
| 22:15.54 | Lauwenmark | John_C: *blushes* |
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| 22:17.27 | foreverska | http://paste.debian.net/318262/ |
| 22:18.29 | Lauwenmark | foreverska: That's an ubuntu package. Are you actually running ubuntu? |
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| 22:20.07 | foreverska | No, nvidia-settings has been in the debian repos forever it feels like. I always install it on a new debian system. |
| 22:20.31 | Lauwenmark | foreverska: I don't know what was done before, but it looks like "foreign" packages got installed. Maybe manual download, then dpkg -i. |
| 22:20.44 | teraflops | !fankendebian |
| 22:20.50 | teraflops | ^ |
| 22:21.24 | Lauwenmark | foreverska: "Version: 352.39-0ubuntu1" is definitely not from debian repos. Checked if any extra sources were in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? |
| 22:21.53 | WangDang | Hi, I just tried to dist-upgrade a box (sheevaplug, ARM) to stretch. The upgrade went without a hitch, but, I got dumped into an initramfs command prompt when I tried to reboot after the upgrade. See http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8b84982f/. The part that worries me most is the bit about the root device. I checked in dev, and there is no directory /dev/disk/by-uuid, only /dev/disk/by-id/. Does anyone know a way to tell initramfs where to find my root |
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| 22:22.12 | abrotman | judd: versions nvidia-settings |
| 22:22.13 | judd | Package: nvidia-settings on amd64 -- squeeze/contrib: 195.36.24-1; squeeze-backports/contrib: 295.49-1~bpo60+1; wheezy/contrib: 304.88-1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 319.72-1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 340.46-2; sid/contrib: 340.93-1; stretch/contrib: 340.93-1; experimental/contrib: 346.59-1 |
| 22:22.18 | abrotman | none say Ubuntu |
| 22:23.21 | foreverska | huh there it was. There was a CUDA repo in the sources.list.d. |
| 22:23.34 | Lauwenmark | foreverska: ah :D |
| 22:24.07 | Lauwenmark | foreverska: Remove it, apt-get update, remove the nvidia/ubuntu packages, and reinstall the proper debian ones. |
| 22:24.19 | torpet | i want to install debian on my workstation |
| 22:24.33 | torpet | but i have a gtx 970 |
| 22:24.36 | torpet | what would be my best bet? |
| 22:24.47 | Lauwenmark | torpet: Best bet on what? |
| 22:24.52 | torpet | to get it to run? |
| 22:25.31 | Lauwenmark | torpet: nvidia proprietary drivers are usually working the best with their cards. |
| 22:25.49 | torpet | Hm but even stretch has a version number which is too low |
| 22:26.03 | Lauwenmark | torpet: check experimental? |
| 22:26.18 | torpet | ok those would be new enough |
| 22:26.21 | torpet | but that's a bit weird |
| 22:26.37 | Lauwenmark | torpet: why? |
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| 22:27.33 | Lauwenmark | WangDang: mmm. Can you mount the root partition from that emergency mode? |
| 22:27.46 | WangDang | yes, it's mounted now |
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| 22:28.12 | torpet | Lauwenmark: Should I just use a single package from experimental? |
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| 22:28.47 | torpet | (namely the nvidia-drivers?) |
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| 22:31.16 | WangDang | Lauwenmark: but I mounted it using It's device name, not by UUID |
| 22:32.16 | Lauwenmark | WangDang: mhmh. I don't know what bootloader is used on your ARM setup. On x86, that would be a matter of changing grub configuration. |
| 22:32.51 | Lauwenmark | WangDang: At least I'd check /etc/fstab to ensure mounting by regular device name instead of by UUID, but I don't think it will suffice. |
| 22:32.59 | foul_owl | Lauwenmark: I'm interesetd in the x86_64 version of the package |
| 22:33.01 | WangDang | Lauwenmark: I think u-boot does grub's job, but I'm not sure. I'm new to arm |
| 22:33.02 | Lauwenmark | torpet: Yes. |
| 22:33.03 | foul_owl | Getting the same error with |
| 22:33.23 | foul_owl | sudo dpkg -L libcuda1:x86_64 |
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| 22:34.37 | Lauwenmark | foul_owl: The arch name is amd64, not x86_64. |
| 22:34.54 | WangDang | Lauwenmark: the thing is, it booted just fine as jessie. It found the root device just fine. It's only after the upgrade to stretch that it can't find the root device |
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| 22:36.02 | g00se | Seems to be fantastically difficult to get some sort of XMPP account. Can someone please tell me how if they've got one? All i want to do is chat to my other half. Google is not allowing Pidgin |
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| 22:37.46 | Lauwenmark | WangDang: mmm. I have no idea. I have little experience with Stretch, and none with the SHeevaPlug. I've installed Debian on ARM, but not the SHeeva, and only Wheezy or Jessie. |
| 22:37.52 | Murdoch5 | I have an Xauthority file under /root, it's owned by root:root and it's premission 0600, I'm not out of space, but when I try to run virt-manager via SSH, I get X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication |
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| 22:38.09 | Lauwenmark | WangDang: The author of http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/install/ seem to know it, though, maybe worth contacting him if possible. |
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| 22:38.46 | Lauwenmark | g00se: tried jabber.org? |
| 22:39.04 | g00se | Seems no longer in operation |
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| 22:39.49 | Lauwenmark | g00se: true, but it gives a link to https://xmpp.net/ which seems to list public servers in operation. |
| 22:40.21 | Lauwenmark | g00se: (see https://xmpp.net/directory.php ) |
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| 22:40.57 | g00se | Yes, all the UK ones i've had problems with |
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| 22:42.11 | Lauwenmark | g00se: Then try one not based in the UK! |
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| 22:42.53 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: Can you paste a log of the console of your connection attempt? |
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| 22:44.01 | g00se | Lauwenmark: i'll give a German one a try |
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| 22:44.23 | abrotman | Murdoch5: why would you run X as root anyway? |
| 22:44.34 | Murdoch5 | Is this what you want: http://pastie.org/10509888 |
| 22:44.54 | Murdoch5 | to test something |
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| 22:47.28 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: xauth installed on the ssh server? |
| 22:47.45 | teraflops | it's a secret abrotman |
| 22:48.26 | Murdoch5 | yes |
| 22:48.55 | WangDang | Lauwenmark: OK, thanks |
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| 22:55.06 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: mmm. Paste the sequence of commands you are typing to perform your connection test, please. |
| 22:55.55 | Murdoch5 | ssh localhost -p 10000 virt-manager (I use ssh tunnels to a server which is why I'm using localhost) |
| 22:56.02 | Murdoch5 | ssh -X localhost -p 10000 virt-manager (I use ssh tunnels to a server which is why I'm using localhost) |
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| 22:56.06 | Murdoch5 | there is a -X |
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| 22:59.33 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: Can you just do a "ssh -X localhost -p 10000" and see what the DISPLAY variable is? |
| 23:00.30 | Murdoch5 | localhost:10.0 |
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| 23:05.22 | afidegnum | Lauwenmark: do I install proxmox before install additional OSes ? |
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| 23:06.06 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: From that ssh session, what happens if you try to run an x app? Do you get more error messages, or just those you pasted before? |
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| 23:06.15 | n33dhlp | hi |
| 23:06.36 | Murdoch5 | I get those same X11 errors and a bunch of GTK stuff on the screen, but the GTK stuff is normal |
| 23:07.20 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: Maybe try launching a simple app like xeyes or xclock, should spare the console from the GTK cruft :) |
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| 23:08.36 | Lauwenmark | afidegnum: proxmox installs on the "real" hardware, and allows you to run virtual machines on which you can run your additional OSes. |
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| 23:09.34 | Lauwenmark | afidegnum: the wiki page about KVM setup is doing the same as proxmox, mostly, but "manually" instead of having a preconfigured distribution/packaging. |
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| 23:09.55 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 23:10.05 | Murdoch5 | ssh -X localhost -p 10015 xarclock |
| 23:10.05 | Murdoch5 | root@localhost's password: |
| 23:10.05 | Murdoch5 | X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 23:10.07 | Murdoch5 | Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0 |
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| 23:10.45 | german_ | Hi |
| 23:10.51 | Lauwenmark | wb |
| 23:10.55 | german_ | Lauwenmark, |
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| 23:11.15 | german_ | Now the error message is |
| 23:11.25 | german_ | Fatal Error: Failed to load steamui.so |
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| 23:11.32 | Murdoch5 | Sorry guys I was kicked |
| 23:11.37 | Murdoch5 | I guess 3 lines is a paste flood |
| 23:11.38 | Murdoch5 | :S |
| 23:11.41 | Lauwenmark | :) |
| 23:11.59 | german_ | What else? |
| 23:12.22 | abrotman | that was fourlines |
| 23:12.24 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: Does that work when using another account than root? |
| 23:12.34 | abrotman | german_: you do know there is a steam support channel, right? |
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| 23:12.53 | Lauwenmark | german_: pastebin of the whole console output when trying to launch steam, please. |
| 23:13.23 | teraflops | they will tell him, `lol use ubuntu` :P |
| 23:13.55 | german_ | Error: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: |
| 23:13.55 | german_ | libGL.so.1 |
| 23:14.22 | Murdoch5 | Just made a user to test with and it still fails |
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| 23:15.50 | dhart | german_ you have an nvidia geforce card right? |
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| 23:16.02 | dhart | You have to install all the cuda dev packages |
| 23:16.05 | german_ | yes |
| 23:16.14 | dhart | I had the same issue initially |
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| 23:16.47 | Murdoch5 | It doesn't matter if I chagne the DISPLAY varible, I just set it to 0.0 and it still fails |
| 23:17.46 | Lauwenmark | german_: Would try "apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx:i386" and see how it goes. |
| 23:18.12 | nkuttler | !tell Murdoch5 about sshx |
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| 23:19.28 | n33dhlp | german_, sounds german |
| 23:19.32 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: Then I don't know. I'd probably not create the .Xauthority file in advance, and check that both ssh client and server allow X forwarding. I don't see much else, sorry. |
| 23:19.33 | n33dhlp | :-) |
| 23:20.22 | Murdoch5 | In this case I know the chain should be good, I'm ssh'ing from my local computer to an intermediate point, and that point then accesses the server I want, this works with other servers so it's isolated to this box |
| 23:20.32 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: Maybe syslog would provide more details, but I doubt it. |
| 23:21.22 | Lauwenmark | Murdoch5: I'd definitely diff the sshd_config file from that server with the one of another server that works. |
| 23:21.52 | Murdoch5 | I wrote them, they're the same :S. something else funny is going on, anyway I'll figure it out |
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| 23:22.50 | german_ | Lauwenmark, |
| 23:22.50 | german_ | ich tun kann? |
| 23:23.12 | Lauwenmark | german_: ? |
| 23:23.18 | n33dhlp | lol |
| 23:23.31 | n33dhlp | strange german |
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| 23:23.57 | n33dhlp | that was hardly german. more like a translator |
| 23:24.18 | abrotman | n33dhlp: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 23:24.33 | n33dhlp | i am not sure |
| 23:24.44 | n33dhlp | i started to read a book about debian |
| 23:25.39 | n33dhlp | are you an expert abrotman |
| 23:25.41 | Lauwenmark | When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? How could I debug it? |
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| 23:26.53 | abrotman | n33dhlp: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 23:28.56 | n33dhlp | if no do i have to leave than? |
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| 23:37.16 | foul_owl | Lauwenmark: Thank you! :) |
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| 23:45.01 | kyfho | ok |
| 23:45.17 | kyfho | where do I find the right way to have linux added to winows ad and windows dns etc? |
| 23:45.27 | kyfho | I wittled down a howto earlier today into a script |
| 23:45.41 | kyfho | but testing it was interesting beause AD I am not guru |
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| 23:48.05 | brontosaurusrex | Are ALT+y,x,c,v used for anything usually? |
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| 23:49.16 | teraflops | kyfho: Use kerberos/samba anyway the DNS server has to be the AD one if you want to join a machine to the AD |
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| 23:53.19 | c0fe | so anyone ever tried duvuan? |
| 23:53.22 | kyfho | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.25 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chalcedony ] [ genpaku ] [ korhojoa ] [ oatgarum ] [ soulz ] [ yen0p ] |
| 23:53.28 | kyfho | 19:45 [ charli ] [ geoffmcc ] [ korolyov ] [ oberling ] [ soundtoxin ] [ Yersinia ] |
| 23:53.31 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Chaser ] [ Geom ] [ Krakakanok ] [ oberstein ] [ spacebison ] [ yeticry ] |
| 23:53.34 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chaz68 ] [ GeorgeJipa ] [ KramerC ] [ obsed ] [ SpaceKookie ] [ ygeLN ] |
| 23:53.37 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Che-Anarc ] [ gerforce ] [ Krenz ] [ ochiottes ] [ SpacePenguin ] [ yokel ] |
| 23:53.40 | kyfho | 19:45 [ cheapie ] [ gernot ] [ kriger ] [ oddie ] [ sparetire ] [ Yolarina ] |
| 23:53.43 | kyfho | 19:45 [ CheckDavid ] [ ggherdov ] [ Krigsforbryter] [ ohithere ] [ sparetire_ ] [ yort ] |
| 23:53.46 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chenuki ] [ GGMethos ] [ kristianm_ ] [ okfine ] [ sparr ] [ yossarianuk ] |
| 23:53.49 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Chex ] [ gh0st1649 ] [ krthnz ] [ olegfusion ] [ sparty ] [ yves_del_harlow] |
| 23:53.52 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chimeracoder ] [ ghenry ] [ krups ] [ Olipro ] [ Spec ] [ zack6849 ] |
| 23:53.55 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Chocolate_Chip ] [ ghormoon ] [ krzee ] [ Omni_ ] [ Speed` ] [ zafu ] |
| 23:53.58 | kyfho | 19:45 [ ChrisH ] [ GhostInTheShell ] [ ksk ] [ on1ald ] [ SpeedBus ] [ zamba ] |
| 23:54.01 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Christian2 ] [ ghoti ] [ ksool ] [ OneM_Industries ] [ speedio ] [ Zambezi ] |
| 23:54.04 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chromas ] [ gigetoo ] [ ktwo ] [ OneST8 ] [ SpeedyG ] [ Zarthus ] |
| 23:54.07 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chroneos ] [ gissi ] [ Kulrak ] [ oomi ] [ spetke ] [ zbrown ] |
| 23:54.10 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chrysn ] [ GitGud ] [ kunwon1 ] [ Ooze ] [ SPF ] [ ZekeS ] |
| 23:54.13 | kyfho | 19:45 [ ChuMar1 ] [ githogori ] [ Kurocon ] [ opiumozor ] [ SPF|Cloud ] [ zeljkof ] |
| 23:54.16 | kyfho | 19:45 [ CHVNX ] [ glebihan ] [ kvm2k ] [ optraz ] [ sphenxes ] [ zerick ] |
| 23:54.19 | kyfho | 19:45 [ chwy ] [ glebihan_ ] [ kward ] [ Orochimarufan ] [ spiteful ] [ Zharf ] |
| 23:54.22 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Cipher45 ] [ glitch13 ] [ kwmiebach ] [ Orphis ] [ Spleeze ] [ zhl ] |
| 23:54.25 | kyfho | 19:45 [ cisc ] [ Gm4n ] [ kyfho ] [ osa ] [ SPLENDID ] [ zinx ] |
| 23:54.28 | kyfho | 19:45 [ cisc- ] [ gmacon ] [ kyryus ] [ Otap ] [ Spr1ng ] [ zizou ] |
| 23:54.32 | kyfho | 19:45 [ civillian ] [ gnat_x ] [ kzimmermann ] [ Otis ] [ spronk ] [ zleslie ] |
| 23:54.35 | kyfho | 19:45 [ cjdmax ] [ gniourf ] [ kzrl ] [ otyugh ] [ sputnik ] [ Zoddo ] |
| 23:54.36 | Zarthus | !ops flood |
| 23:54.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: zarthus complains about: flood |
| 23:54.37 | OneM_Industries | What the..... |
| 23:54.38 | kyfho | 19:45 [ ckuehl-2 ] [ GNU\colossus ] [ l0xas ] [ owa ] [ squisher ] [ Zumochi ] |
| 23:54.40 | GitGud | Uptime, hi |
| 23:54.41 | kyfho | 19:45 [ cliffer ] [ gnugr ] [ L235 ] [ own3dz ] [ Ssquidly ] [ zupzupper ] |
| 23:54.44 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Climuffff ] [ goiken ] [ lacsap ] [ oxagast ] [ stackfault ] [ zwox ] |
| 23:54.45 | madmattco | wtb pastebin |
| 23:54.46 | GitGud | oh my |
| 23:54.47 | kyfho | 19:45 [ clopez ] [ gonyere ] [ laekrits ] [ p0g0 ] [ stackofcats ] [ Zyferus ] |
| 23:54.50 | kyfho | 19:45 [ clorophormo ] [ goodygum ] [ lambdahands ] [ p8m ] [ stagnator ] [ zykotick9 ] |
| 23:54.53 | kyfho | 19:45 [ Cloudlet__ ] [ graChe28 ] [ langkid1 ] [ pad2121 ] [ Stanto ] [ zymurgy ] |
| 23:54.56 | kyfho | 19:45 [ clu5ter ] [ Granis ] [ larcom ] [ padawin ] [ stapler117 ] [ zzztop_ ] |
| 23:54.59 | kyfho | 19:45 [ CME ] [ graytron ] [ LaunchDirector] [ Pancakez ] [ Starduster ] [ {41444d494e} ] |
| 23:55.00 | madmattco | kyfho: why in gods name would you do this shit |
| 23:55.02 | kyfho | 19:45 [ cnu_ ] [ grepper ] [ lauren ] [ pankid ] [ StathisA ] |
| 23:55.04 | Uptime | GitGud: hi |
| 23:55.04 | OneM_Industries | I think somebody's bot exploded. |
| 23:55.04 | Uptime | :} |
| 23:55.05 | kyfho | 19:45 [ colo-work ] [ gridl0ck ] [ laurentide ] [ paperd ] [ stealthii ] |
| 23:55.08 | kyfho | 19:45 -!- Irssi: #debian: Total of 1624 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1622 normal] |
| 23:55.11 | kyfho | 19:45 -!- Home page for #debian: http://www.debian.org |
| 23:55.13 | kyfho | 19:45 -!- Channel #debian created Fri Feb 9 18:16:24 2001 |
| 23:55.16 | kyfho | 19:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian was synced in 1 secs |
| 23:55.18 | kyfho | 19:45 < kyfho> ok |
| 23:55.21 | kyfho | 19:45 -!- wezaa [~weza@5-198-101-215.static.kc.net.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] |
| 23:55.24 | Zarthus | OneM_Industries: looks like a paste from irssi's /users |
| 23:55.24 | kyfho | 19:46 < kyfho> where do I find the right way to have linux added to winows ad and windows dns etc? |
| 23:55.26 | *** mode/#debian [+o JonathanD] by ChanServ |
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| 23:55.26 | *** kick/#debian [kyfho!~JonathanD@freenode/staff/jonathand] by JonathanD (you should know better) |
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| 23:55.27 | bazhang | kyfho, just quit |
| 23:55.29 | Zarthus | thanks |
| 23:55.33 | madmattco | wewt |
| 23:55.50 | OneM_Industries | Ping bomb, that |
| 23:55.57 | OneM_Industries | is fun. |
| 23:56.24 | cheapie | ...yeah, I was wondering why I was highlighted over here. |
| 23:56.25 | c0fe | so kyfho is an official bot that went arry or what? |
| 23:56.36 | abrotman | move along |
| 23:56.41 | cheapie | wanders off again |
| 23:57.10 | graChe28 | c0fe: no, he got people like me who weren't looking at this channel to look he has more people looking at his question |
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| 23:59.11 | laekrits | hehe, suddenly everybody peeks in.. |
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