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| 00:10.37 | dixson-canaima41 | libreoffice uninstall (apt-get remove --purge libreoffice *) now again installed (apt-get install libreoffice) but I get no theme. help plz |
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| 00:55.04 | CtrlC | Hi, which package provides "ls" ? |
| 00:55.17 | shawn | coreutils |
| 00:55.40 | CtrlC | thanks. |
| 00:56.08 | shawn | CtrlC: you can use apt-file to figure out what package a file belongs to |
| 00:56.27 | nkuttler | CtrlC: or dpkg -S `which ls` |
| 00:56.35 | nkuttler | !tell CtrlC about search |
| 00:56.39 | CtrlC | Thanks.:) |
| 00:58.15 | LordShadowWing | http://smoog.imgur.com/ticketpig |
| 00:58.56 | nkuttler | LordShadowWing: #debian-offtopic |
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| 01:14.19 | pofffs | No package 'gtk+-3.0' found ??? |
| 01:15.07 | abrotman | in what? |
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| 01:16.14 | pofffs | trying to install gtkspell from source for sylpheed |
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| 01:16.35 | c0fe | pofffs; sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev |
| 01:16.46 | Strife89 | Hello, everyone. I have a Debian installation (on an SSD) that I reckon I will want/need to move from one of my laptops to the other from time to time. How well does Debian 8 respond to suddenly booting with completely different hardware? |
| 01:16.47 | pofffs | also having a weird issue in claws/sylpheed, where emails are not being decrypted inline |
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| 01:17.25 | pofffs | Strife89, pretty good. |
| 01:18.06 | Strife89 | pofffs: Good to know. Are there any generic gotchas you know of to watch out for? |
| 01:18.47 | Strife89 | (I know that I will have to, say, make sure I have firmware files installed for proprietary Wi-Fi on both laptops, but beyond specifics like that ...) |
| 01:18.50 | abrotman | pofffs: which version of linux? |
| 01:19.26 | jmcnaught | Strife89: network interfaces are persistent, so on the second computer the ethernet device will probably be eth1 instead of eth0. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is the file that manages this |
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| 01:20.34 | pofffs | abrotman, debian 7 with custom kernel, etc. the decryption worked perfectly fine in claws, but then I installed gpgme and gnupg from source yesterday (while installing sylpheed) and now claws and sylpheed can encrypt inline, but not decrypt inline. |
| 01:20.55 | abrotman | pofffs: so what do you want tha tpackage for? |
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| 01:21.05 | Strife89 | jmcnaught: But that shouldn't adversely affect things like automatically connecting to networks, right (espec. Wi-Fi)? |
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| 01:21.58 | pofffs | Strife89, it generally screws with my iptables rules, but that is it |
| 01:22.19 | jmcnaught | Strife89: you probably won't have problems unless you have made custom changes that mention your network interfaces by name |
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| 01:22.42 | Strife89 | That's good to hear, as I don't. :) |
| 01:22.49 | Strife89 | Er, haven't. |
| 01:23.25 | Strife89 | sudo service brain-lexington restart |
| 01:23.39 | pofffs | abrotman, sylpheed. I am getting a notice from apt-get that gtkd is not properly configured. |
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| 01:25.40 | mekeor | my notebook (called melire) runs debian-unstable and freezes sometimes abruptly. this happend 2 times in the last hour. here are some error message from /var/log/kern.log right before the last freeze: http://codepad.org/KiltAQlI â do you think those might be responsible for it? /var/log/messages is a even more a mess. the last 2.5 hours: http://textuploader.com/5aoj7 |
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| 01:26.04 | abrotman | pofffs: apt-get -f install |
| 01:27.41 | mekeor | oh, damn, the last link is worthless. let me re-do this |
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| 01:28.48 | buu | Can anyone point me at some debugging ideas for a nfs mount command hanging on the client? |
| 01:29.20 | pofffs | abrotman, dpkg: error processing package gtkd (--configure): |
| 01:29.42 | abrotman | pofffs: paste.debian.net |
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| 01:31.02 | mekeor | http://textuploader.com/5aol2 (you gotta look at time ~ 01:39) ..... i mean there are so freaking many errors, this is not normal right?? |
| 01:31.32 | Nirvash | I'm running the following and once a week, the process is stopping unexpectedly: nohup shout start --port 80 --private &>dev/null & |
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| 01:32.48 | Nirvash | Is there any reason why this would stop unexpectedly? I don't see cron affecting it directly. |
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| 01:33.02 | kailo | how can I force debian to use the mouse driver for an unrecognized mouse device? |
| 01:33.13 | kailo | lsusb shows the device as 'eeef:0003' |
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| 01:33.58 | gabriellp55 | hello |
| 01:34.26 | gabriellp55 | algum br on ? |
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| 01:34.30 | abrotman | !br |
| 01:34.31 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:34.42 | gabriellp55 | thanks |
| 01:34.48 | abrotman | Nirvash: there's a program called runit you might want to look at |
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| 01:41.15 | jmcnaught | Nirvash: if you are using systemd you could also make a service unit with "Restart=on-failure" |
| 01:41.24 | mekeor | mekeor: sorry, the file was too large. i now cut and split the text files into two. (the first half show the messages of just 9 seconds i think.) http://pastebin.ca/3220586 & http://pastebin.ca/3220587 |
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| 01:42.21 | Nirvash | jmcnaught -- is there any way to see *if* it's failing, or just restarting? |
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| 01:43.01 | jmcnaught | Nirvash: its journal or logs? Restart= has a few other options too |
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| 01:43.35 | jmcnaught | Nirvash: systemd.service(5) documents them |
| 01:43.47 | Nirvash | Awesome, I'll check it! |
| 01:45.28 | wadadli_ | :D |
| 01:45.51 | Ring0` | Hi. I'm trying to set env variables for start-stop-daemon. I executed `start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/bin/env PATH="XXXXX" /bin/echo $PATH` expecting path it to print "XXXXX" but it prints system's PATH instead (or current's bash path?), anyway, still not the PATH I wanted to set for it |
| 01:46.30 | kailo | anyone? |
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| 01:58.54 | foreverska | I feel like there's a way to netinstall xfce without libreoffice and that. Or is that part of debian desktop? |
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| 02:10.37 | abrotman | foreverska: you can install just the DE |
| 02:13.15 | foreverska | Like no debian desktop and just choose XFCE? |
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| 02:15.43 | abrotman | yes |
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| 02:19.00 | jaboja | Is it possible to configure GTK3 to use the same theme GTK2 uses? |
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| 02:49.30 | un214 | bug 788631 is fixed in stretch but I can't figure out how to flag it |
| 02:50.27 | un214 | is there a good way to take that one package? |
| 02:50.34 | abrotman | take itwhat? |
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| 02:50.46 | un214 | apply one package from stretch |
| 02:51.06 | abrotman | dpkg: tell un214 about ssb |
| 02:51.14 | abrotman | dpkg: dbugs 788631 |
| 02:51.18 | dpkg | #788631:N[util-linux] /sbin/mkfs.minix: mkfs.minix hang/infinite loop (); Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:00:01 UTC [] |
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| 02:52.17 | un214 | huh wrong bug hmmm |
| 02:52.31 | un214 | no wait that's the right one |
| 02:52.45 | un214 | anyway, I'm the one who fixed it upstream |
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| 02:54.59 | un214 | I still need someone to flag the bug fixed in stretch |
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| 02:56.08 | abrotman | un214: bugs.debian.org, there's a page about manipulating bugs |
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| 04:50.40 | acchan | Does unattended-upgrades reboot the system? I got a reboot yesterday and I'm trying to figure out the cause. |
| 04:51.11 | acchan | I also lost several months of IRC logs somehow |
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| 04:55.50 | wsky | ok is there a way to install gtk-1.2 in debian 8? |
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| 05:37.02 | wsky | is there a way to use gtk 1.2 on debian 8? |
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| 05:47.10 | swift110-phone | Hey |
| 05:47.15 | Impious | can i talk here? |
| 05:47.22 | Impious | i can, cool |
| 05:47.32 | Impious | Is anyone home? |
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| 05:49.42 | Impious | Is no one talking because i am using a webclient? |
| 05:50.20 | swift110-phone | Lol |
| 05:50.24 | acchan | IRC is always like this |
| 05:50.40 | swift110-phone | Yu |
| 05:50.43 | swift110-phone | Yup |
| 05:50.53 | blind | Eh, it's busier at different times of the day. |
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| 05:52.00 | Impious | ohh, well does anyone know how to connect to a different node on the webclient |
| 05:52.01 | Impious | ? |
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| 05:52.47 | blind | Different channel or different server? |
| 05:52.53 | Impious | server |
| 05:53.06 | Impious | http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23linux&net=IndirectIRC this one |
| 05:53.11 | blind | If you can, it would be with /server I'd imagine. Not very familiar with the web client. |
| 05:53.32 | Impious | i havent used IRC in forever and i dont have the foggiest how to use it anymore |
| 05:53.41 | Impious | but i can telnet into my router from memory |
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| 05:55.24 | shawn | Screencast or it didn't happen |
| 05:55.26 | jelly | Impious: it's likely freenode's web client can only connect to freenode... |
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| 05:55.36 | Impious | seems that way |
| 05:56.19 | Impious | i was just looking for some Distro discussion, anyone know a good channel for that? |
| 05:56.38 | jelly | ##linux can be decent at times |
| 05:56.42 | swift110-phone | Hmm |
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| 05:57.00 | wsky | jelly: do you know the answer for taht question of mine? |
| 05:57.27 | jelly | wsky: nope, isn't gtk1 dead |
| 05:57.43 | Impious | You Have to register with ##linux, and it seems a bit of a pain |
| 05:57.57 | wsky | i have an old app using it and i'd like to run it |
| 05:58.17 | wsky | hm i guess |
| 05:58.23 | wsky | i guess i could bootstrap a lenny |
| 05:58.38 | jelly | yeah |
| 05:59.03 | jelly | Impious: /msg nickserv help register |
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| 06:00.23 | Impious | jelly: I did, it wants a lot of information, and i just want to bullshit |
| 06:00.56 | wsky | jelly: can you point me to a mirror with lenny packages? |
| 06:01.03 | jelly | Impious: or better, use a proper irc client like hexchat or irssi and connect to whichever server you want |
| 06:01.09 | jelly | !ado |
| 06:01.09 | dpkg | Debian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ . To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 06:01.10 | Impious | im going to bounce around, you have a good day |
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| 06:01.28 | swift110-phone | Ok |
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| 06:02.08 | jelly | wsky: ^^ |
| 06:02.20 | wsky | jelly: thanks, got it |
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| 06:03.58 | waressearcher2 | jelly: "move the meta", what is "meta" ? |
| 06:04.15 | swift110-phone | Hey jelly and wsky |
| 06:04.31 | wsky | hi |
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| 06:08.45 | brokenbox | Hi, my Debian 6 box is showing the /user/home partition in /etc/fstab yet the /home directory is empty, showing no users at all. There was an issue with the jornalling on boot, has something *bad* happened? |
| 06:09.12 | jelly | brokenbox: /user/home is different from /home |
| 06:09.13 | brokenbox | journalling* |
| 06:09.36 | brokenbox | er sorry, I mean /home/user |
| 06:09.38 | brokenbox | slaps self |
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| 06:11.16 | jelly | brokenbox: put your /etc/fstab and /var/log/kern.log lines since last reboot into a pastebin so someone can take a look |
| 06:11.19 | jelly | !paste |
| 06:11.20 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 06:12.22 | jelly | brokenbox: also output of "mount", or "cat /proc/mounts". Put everything in a single paste if possible |
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| 06:12.56 | brokenbox | jelly: Would love to but is a headless (no X) box, is this doable? |
| 06:13.13 | jelly | !pastebinit |
| 06:13.13 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 06:13.49 | brokenbox | jelly: thanks, on it, bbs |
| 06:14.23 | jelly | brokenbox: the instructions are a bit outdated, use "pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com" |
| 06:14.29 | cilkay | Hello. I'm doing a preseed install of Jessie. Is there any way to copy a file from my local filesystem in preseed/late_command to /target in the newly created virtual machine I'm creating? |
| 06:14.38 | brokenbox | jelly: OK |
| 06:14.57 | cilkay | I now how to wget the file from a web server but I'd rather not have to depend on a web server. |
| 06:15.07 | jelly | debian.net has switch to different API recently again and probably won't work |
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| 06:20.44 | cilkay | I figured it out. I can run "python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000" in the directory in which I have all the files I want to copy to the new VM so I don't have to leave my network. |
| 06:21.29 | cilkay | I can then wget the files in the late_command.sh shell script and put them in the appropriate places. |
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| 06:23.17 | SanchoPensa | hi everybody! |
| 06:23.37 | SanchoPensa | if you'd please assist me with the following, rahter peculiar problem: |
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| 06:24.24 | brokenbox | stabs file system |
| 06:24.42 | SanchoPensa | i have attached an USB stick with 8GB to my computer, du -h | sort -hr says, i am using up 4.9GB of it, but those are nowhere to be found: http://pastebin.com/JNsViBwn |
| 06:24.48 | SanchoPensa | trash is empty |
| 06:25.09 | SanchoPensa | have you got any idea, what and where uses up 4 undetectable GB on my stick? |
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| 06:27.05 | jelly | SanchoPensa: ls -la . --sort=size|less |
| 06:27.22 | dionysus69 | I want to load rvm without using bashrc |
| 06:27.30 | dionysus69 | should I use barsh_profile or profile? |
| 06:27.58 | dionysus69 | and how should I load rvm so ruby is also included in path? right now rvm works but ruby -v doesn't |
| 06:28.40 | brokenbox | jelly: the /var/log/kern.log goes all the way back to May and is *huge* ... still want it? |
| 06:28.48 | SanchoPensa | jelly: http://pastebin.com/30DXpNUv |
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| 06:28.52 | SanchoPensa | that is really odd |
| 06:29.35 | jelly | brokenbox: that's where you don't paste all of it, but only the stuff that happened since current boot |
| 06:30.01 | SanchoPensa | what is this casper-rw, and what does it do, and why does a normal filelisting not show it? |
| 06:30.26 | jelly | SanchoPensa: I spot a 4GiB file there. ls -la _is_ a pretty normal file listing |
| 06:30.49 | jelly | du shows usage per directory, not per file |
| 06:30.50 | SanchoPensa | jelly: agreee, so is du -h, is it not? |
| 06:31.02 | dionysus69 | which one has precedence bash_profile or profile? |
| 06:31.42 | jelly | SanchoPensa: casper-rw vaguely sounds like some persistency mechanism for a live cd image. Ask whoever created that bootable image in the first place. |
| 06:32.49 | SanchoPensa | jelly: yes, duck duck go says, it is to store whatever data you wish to persistently save on a live drive. |
| 06:33.00 | SanchoPensa | so mystery solve, thanky, jelly! :) |
| 06:34.18 | jelly | dionysus69: if you're using bash as your login shell (it's the default for normal users), you may want to read "man bash", INVOCATION section |
| 06:34.25 | jelly | slow |
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| 06:34.46 | wsky | jelly: have lenny had multiarch? |
| 06:34.51 | jelly | nope |
| 06:35.00 | wsky | eh then it wont work |
| 06:35.13 | wsky | the app is 32 bit, i run a 64 bit system, lenny has no multiarch |
| 06:35.27 | jelly | duh, just pick the i386 arch |
| 06:35.45 | wsky | yeah but will chrooting work on a amd64 host? |
| 06:35.54 | jelly | the kernel supports running 32bit userspace, yes |
| 06:36.11 | wsky | ok, so, tell my how to run an X app from within the chroot |
| 06:36.27 | wsky | i ran xhost +, i've exported the DISPLAY but still it can't popen the display |
| 06:36.30 | jelly | haven't done that in a long time |
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| 06:37.34 | jelly | wsky: you need three things: X server socket, xauthority set up, and DISPLAY env.var |
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| 06:38.27 | jelly | wsky: bind-mount /tmp/.X11-unix from outside into the chroot, you'll have to mkdir /tmp/.X11-unix inside first |
| 06:38.48 | jelly | that's where the X server unix domain socket is present |
| 06:39.21 | wsky | brb |
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| 06:41.23 | jelly | brokenbox: output of `dmesg` command shows the same info that's in /var/log/kern.log, but may be truncated and is without absolute timestamps |
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| 06:42.41 | brokenbox | jelly: k, almost done, chopping the file |
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| 06:43.37 | dionysus69 | I need help please I am inserting this [[ -s "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" ]] && source "$HOME/.rvm/scripts/rvm" into either bash_profile or profile and ruby doesnt get added to path but when I run that it does. So it doesnt get run on login which it should, any ideas? |
| 06:43.42 | wsky | jelly: i got it working, just had to mount /tmp |
| 06:43.57 | andyhse_ | I have a few servers that run 7.9 wheezy, which only has svn 1.6 in its repo. what would be the best way to upgrade to svn 1.7? |
| 06:44.07 | HyperRize | Im about to purchase a vpn. Does anyone have any recommendations? |
| 06:45.34 | dionysus69 | HyperRize: I know of openvpn |
| 06:45.58 | GitGud | how do i remove saved RSA from ssh sessions i have made before? |
| 06:46.03 | GitGud | i want to clear that history up |
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| 06:47.01 | andyhse_ | GitGud, .ssh/known_hosts? |
| 06:47.07 | HyperRize | Anyone use PIA vpn or TorGuard? |
| 06:47.47 | HyperRize | dionysus69: ty, I am aware of OpenVPN, Im just trying to gather some info on others users experiences with them |
| 06:48.02 | jelly | wsky: yeah, that works too, but /tmp/.X11-unix would have been enough |
| 06:48.24 | wsky | jelly: but the app i have is missbehaving anyway, when i run it in chroot it silently fails |
| 06:48.43 | wsky | no output, no nothing, just gets me back to the prompt |
| 06:48.51 | wsky | runs on the host system tho |
| 06:48.56 | jelly | dionysus69: if you're using bash as your login shell (it's the default for normal users), you may want to read "man bash", INVOCATION section |
| 06:49.00 | GitGud | andyhse_, yes you are right. ty |
| 06:49.41 | dionysus69 | jelly: hmm ok thanks ) |
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| 06:51.57 | dakka | I would like to create one giant drive using LVM, i have 2 disks that I believe are RAID (setup by hosting company). I would like to join /dev/sda3, /dev/sda4, /dev/sdb1-4 (the system has debian preinstalled as well as the partitions already defines |
| 06:52.06 | dakka | is what I am asking possible? |
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| 06:52.44 | dakka | I am a little confused with the slew of LVM commands |
| 06:53.36 | dakka | I think I know how to do this for one disk, but not sure if i can use 2 disks, with a few partitions on one and the whole disk of the other |
| 06:54.18 | brokenbox | jelly: *That* was a mission and a half => http://paste.ubuntu.com/12977819/ |
| 06:54.45 | brokenbox | jelly: But I did learn something cool, thanks |
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| 06:56.06 | uberdub | hi, new think penguin laptop is having a sleep issue |
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| 06:57.37 | uberdub | http://pastebin.com/NFtcrsq9 |
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| 07:02.05 | brokenbox | What is the *correct* way to remove old kernels from the /boot partition on Debian 6/7? |
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| 07:03.17 | jelly | brokenbox: dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz* to find the package names, then purge unwanted packages |
| 07:03.59 | brokenbox | jelly: Thanks |
| 07:05.44 | wsky | jelly: so the app is looking for libraries in /usr/lib/i486-linux-gnu/ |
| 07:05.52 | wsky | how to point it to the proper patch? |
| 07:06.19 | jelly | brokenbox: lines 625-629 show the kernel being unable to read parts of the partition where /home is stored. In addition to that, you have quite a number of unrecoverable read errors going on. Your disk may be dying or has suffered some bad sectors from a power loss in _exactly_ the wrong place |
| 07:07.16 | brokenbox | jelly: ah right, well /sda9 which was where /home was, ain't there anymore, yes old boxes with crappy old 500mb drives |
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| 07:07.27 | jelly | wsky: that directory should be present in lenny if I remember correctly |
| 07:07.34 | wsky | it's npot |
| 07:07.35 | wsky | it's not |
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| 07:08.22 | jelly | wsky: no idea then, which app is it? |
| 07:08.34 | wsky | epsxe |
| 07:08.44 | brokenbox | jelly: Thanks for your time, very cool, might be time to but that RaspberryPi as a test/web server |
| 07:08.55 | brokenbox | to buy* that |
| 07:08.59 | jelly | brokenbox: or just replace the disk |
| 07:09.20 | jelly | and restore /home from backups |
| 07:10.42 | brokenbox | jelly: yeah, a shame though I had some interesting Arduino sketches on it 8-(, ah well, shift happens |
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| 07:14.38 | brokenbox | Is it possible to still locate Debian 6.0? My older boxes will not play with 7/8, they just hang on install process |
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| 07:16.01 | wsky | ./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
| 07:16.17 | wsky | now this made me headdesk |
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| 07:18.44 | wsky | ok so i've debootstrapped wrong architecture |
| 07:18.47 | wsky | eh |
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| 07:21.05 | BuzzardBuzz | brokenbox: https://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/ |
| 07:21.41 | brokenbox | BuzzardBuzz: Thanks |
| 07:21.49 | BuzzardBuzz | yw :) |
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| 07:25.05 | jelly | brokenbox: cloning the disk with ddrescue and trying to recover may be an option |
| 07:25.41 | jelly | dpkg, tell brokenbox about squeeze-lts |
| 07:25.52 | brokenbox | jelly: true enough but I think it is fuxored well and truly, will try full install, if fails get another hdd |
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| 07:26.52 | brokenbox | jelly: dpkg on strike, eh? |
| 07:26.57 | jelly | brokenbox: and try to avoid making a zillion filesystems even if the installer leads you to do that. Just make a 20GB-ish / and a small swap (and a separate /home is you really want it) |
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| 07:27.31 | jelly | brokenbox: it should have told you something in a private message (separate tab/window in your irc client) |
| 07:27.42 | brokenbox | jelly: OK, I usually do the whole: /var, /usr, /usr/log etc ... fair point though |
| 07:27.53 | brokenbox | jelly: ah right, seen |
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| 07:28.14 | jelly | there's no technical reason for that. It's just a stupid default in d-u |
| 07:28.15 | brokenbox | jelly: Thanks, noted. |
| 07:28.16 | jelly | d-i |
| 07:28.55 | Qwertie | Is there anything I should do to secure apache or is the default config pretty secure? |
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| 07:29.53 | jelly | Qwertie: it's not apache itself that's problematic, it's all the bad php code that people love to use |
| 07:30.16 | jelly | apache gets about 1 serious security issue a year |
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| 07:30.27 | Qwertie | jelly, Im only going to have static html/css/js on it |
| 07:30.36 | cilkay | dakka: Yes, it's possible, and it's a bad idea. You'll halve reliability. If you either one of the drives, you'll lose your data. |
| 07:30.41 | Qwertie | So I should be ok with the defaults? |
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| 07:31.33 | cilkay | *if you lose either of the drives |
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| 07:35.37 | jelly | Qwertie: yes. |
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| 07:47.10 | wsky | jelly: so i got the app running but it crashes when it tries to use glx |
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| 07:47.20 | wsky | jelly: any thughts on that? |
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| 07:47.47 | wsky | glxgears crashes with the same error messagfe |
| 07:47.51 | wsky | message. |
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| 07:48.37 | jelly | wsky: what message is that? |
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| 08:00.41 | wsky | jelly: X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) |
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| 08:07.07 | jelly | wsky: ouch. install libgl1-mesa-glx inside the chroot and run with software rendering? |
| 08:07.16 | wsky | >.> |
| 08:07.29 | ZIPY^ | Hi, Im transfering some big files over nfs (debian jessie to raspbian). While doing so, the source pc (debian jessie desktop pc) keeps freezing/hanging all the time making it impossible to work with it. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? |
| 08:07.54 | wsky | jelly: it's installed |
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| 08:09.13 | jelly | ZIPY^: what does "grep . /sys/block/*/queue/scheduler" say, is it set to cfq? |
| 08:10.02 | jelly | ZIPY^: on the source |
| 08:10.35 | wsky | jelly: if i'd want run it with software rendering i'd run it without the comprehensive opengl plugin |
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| 08:11.52 | wsky | jelly: ok i got a "hack" |
| 08:11.55 | ZIPY^ | jelly: I'll tell you as soon it is not hanging the next time ^^ |
| 08:12.35 | wsky | the only part of the rendering plugin that does not work is the gtk1.2 config window which runs using the chrooted lenny environment |
| 08:12.51 | wsky | so i'll just configure it there, copy the config file and boom, it runs on the host as well |
| 08:12.52 | jelly | /o\ |
| 08:13.11 | jelly | !win wsky |
| 08:13.11 | dpkg | Congratulations, wsky! You have won the US presidency! |
| 08:13.18 | wsky | ;o |
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| 08:25.09 | ZIPY^ | jelly: noop deadline [cfq] |
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| 08:31.19 | wsky | jelly: anyways, i could just edit it by hand, but, whatever, the plugin crashes it anyways |
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| 08:55.10 | c0rez | lol |
| 08:55.12 | c0rez | who's awake? |
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| 09:20.45 | gabboman | Hi, sometimes my computer halts |
| 09:20.58 | gabboman | happend me in ubuntu, and now also in debian testing |
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| 09:21.16 | gabboman | I haven't tried too much distros in that computer, but I see this in syslog when it freezes |
| 09:21.29 | gabboman | Oct 27 09:48:54 friday kernel: [ 15.227887] i915 0000:00:02.0: registered panic notifier |
| 09:21.29 | gabboman | Oct 27 10:14:30 friday kernel: [ 16.590726] i915 0000:00:02.0: registered panic notifier |
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| 09:22.03 | gabboman | It's an intel celeron with an intel HD graphics. In windows it works great |
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| 09:22.18 | gabboman | I mean, I can even play cs go@720p |
| 09:24.45 | ChrisH | gabboman: get mcelog installed and configured to check the HW Logs |
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| 09:26.20 | jelly | gabboman: those two lines are normal and expected at boot, they essentially mean nothing but "driver initialized its features" |
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| 09:26.32 | gabboman | jelly is not |
| 09:26.35 | gabboman | wops, |
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| 09:26.46 | gabboman | jelly it is not on boot, it's on system freeze |
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| 09:27.04 | jelly | gabboman: freeze 16 seconds into booting? |
| 09:27.33 | jelly | gabboman: if the system managed to write to syslog, it didn't freeze completely. |
| 09:27.34 | gabboman | hm... boot time takes like 16 seconds.. yes |
| 09:27.47 | gabboman | interesting |
| 09:27.48 | gabboman | faq |
| 09:28.05 | gabboman | but I don't know then how could I check what happend before it "died" |
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| 09:28.35 | gabboman | screen gets frozen. Not with pics of elsa, but frozen and nothing happends |
| 09:28.47 | gabboman | In ubuntu happend me a lot while playing minecraft |
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| 09:28.56 | gabboman | and in debian only using chrome :( |
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| 09:29.05 | gabboman | watching youtube |
| 09:29.06 | acu | how can I add a desktop in kde ? |
| 09:29.13 | acu | Debian jessie |
| 09:30.19 | gabboman | acu in wiki says: 1st install taskel, then tasksel -t install kde-desktop |
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| 09:31.22 | gabboman | or in google, apt install kde-full |
| 09:31.33 | gabboman | I think it may work, not sure. But why would you want to use KDE? |
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| 09:32.28 | acu | gabboman: where is wiki ? |
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| 09:33.00 | acu | I installed tasksel kde-was installed - I am asking how can I add the desktop in KDE - panel - usually it shows only one deskto |
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| 09:35.41 | gabbomanAndroid | Faq, just freezed again |
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| 09:36.52 | gabboman | serious question, did anyone said something? because it doesn't appears anything |
| 09:36.56 | gabboman | what should I check? |
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| 09:37.35 | ancky_ | gabboman: no everyone was quiet |
| 09:37.41 | gabboman | :( |
| 09:38.00 | ancky_ | acu: you mean a new virtual desktop? |
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| 09:39.54 | acu | ancky: I do not know how you call it - but you can have in one destkop write and other gimp and flip between them |
| 09:40.05 | acu | it used to be a right click on panel - not naymore |
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| 09:42.09 | ancky_ | acu: ah I see what you mean |
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| 09:43.23 | ancky_ | I'm not good with KDE, I have a KDE machine right in front of me but it is not working |
| 09:43.42 | ancky_ | I guess somewhere in system settings you can configure your desktop |
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| 09:50.25 | larsmw | on a newly installed 8.2 with gnome 3.14 - when i list packages with dpkg -l there are som gnome packages in version 3.12 ? Is this intentional? |
| 09:50.30 | jelly | gabboman: which graphic card is there, just the intel embedded one or is there something else in there? |
| 09:50.58 | gabboman | jelly just the embebbed one. The laptop has no more than 6 months |
| 09:51.09 | jelly | larsmw: yes. versions of specific gnome components do not always have to match the version of gnome release |
| 09:51.29 | larsmw | jelly, thanks! :) |
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| 09:52.10 | gabboman | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display (rev 0e) |
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| 10:04.04 | jelly | gabboman: well, if you're using testing, you should have pretty much the latest video-intel driver available. If things still break, you may try to disable some of the acceleration in kde or in that driver |
| 10:04.18 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 10:04.19 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:2.99.917-2; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2 |
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| 10:08.01 | gabboman | jelly well, I'm on gnome and the two latest breaks where with chrome and youtube ( |
| 10:08.03 | gabboman | ;( |
| 10:08.20 | jelly | yeah, that sounds like video-intel |
| 10:08.30 | jelly | gabboman: which DE are you using, kde? |
| 10:08.35 | gabboman | gnome |
| 10:08.51 | jelly | oh right, I can't read |
| 10:09.12 | jelly | dunno how to disable compositing in gnome, sorry |
| 10:09.23 | gabboman | don't worry, I'll see what can I do |
| 10:09.37 | gabboman | but I would like to know how to tell "the thing" to the devs |
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| 10:09.54 | gabboman | Also, now I remember, in other computer happend to me something when using a rare kernel in arch |
| 10:10.16 | gabboman | kernel linux-cf + hibernation patch |
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| 10:13.35 | jelly | gabboman: log of X server at /var/log/Xorg.0.log may show something interesting or not when that happens. Also: install openssh-server, when that happens, try to log in from a second machine in the same network segment and inspect what's happening |
| 10:13.51 | gabboman | great idea jelly, thanks |
| 10:14.18 | gabboman | will do if happends |
| 10:14.39 | gabboman | if it's a kernel problem I wouldn't be able to connect, if it's a video problem I should |
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| 10:15.58 | jelly | the fact you got something in syslog when/after it happens points to the latter |
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| 10:23.06 | gabboman | thanks |
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| 10:41.14 | Systemk | hello |
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| 10:44.28 | venkat_330 | I try to set my GTK_LABEL font with below piece: |
| 10:44.28 | venkat_330 | fd = pango_font_description_from_string ("saxmono 27.5"); |
| 10:44.28 | venkat_330 | gtk_widget_modify_font (w, fd); |
| 10:44.28 | venkat_330 | but the change does not chage the font size |
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| 10:51.03 | anev | hey |
| 10:51.29 | anev | by default does debian perform system updates and reboot? having some problems with sever where it keeps rebooting every few weeks |
| 10:51.36 | anev | logs are only showing systemd performing shutdown |
| 10:51.50 | anev | looking at etc/apt i don't see any update related configs |
| 10:51.53 | anev | is there anywhere else i can check? |
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| 11:56.56 | jelly | Systemk, ANZFG: why is there two of you |
| 11:57.31 | Mathisen | he is in raid ofc |
| 11:58.07 | colo-work | RAIU |
| 11:58.21 | ewew | jelly Where ? |
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| 12:06.33 | Haxxa | How big in gb is the entire debian repo? inc. all non -free drivers provided by non free repo |
| 12:07.07 | themill | !mirror size |
| 12:07.08 | dpkg | To see the size of the Debian archive for each architecture, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/size . To make your own mirror, ask me about <mirrors>. |
| 12:07.12 | Mathisen | Haxxa, https://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
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| 12:09.23 | Haxxa | Mathisen, thats tiny! |
| 12:09.40 | Haxxa | I was expecting multi - tbs of storage needed |
| 12:09.50 | Haxxa | very let down... |
| 12:10.50 | Mathisen | Haxxa, yeah its a shame things dont take upp bigger space... so mutch waste of space right :) |
| 12:10.52 | Mathisen | heh |
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| 12:11.59 | Haxxa | indeed - I can run a debian repo on my phone... |
| 12:13.47 | darxun | s |
| 12:13.53 | jelly | Haxxa: it's basically a single TB |
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| 12:23.15 | jelly | dpkg: cve lookup CVE-2015-7704 |
| 12:23.15 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2015-7704 may be found at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-7704 |
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| 12:23.55 | ewew | ntp again ? |
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| 12:24.32 | afidegnum | I am setting a new server, which debian version do you suggest? 7 or 8 ? |
| 12:24.47 | ewew | afidegnum stable |
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| 12:25.01 | afidegnum | ewew: I don't get you |
| 12:25.08 | jelly | afidegnum: unless you have a very good reason to go with the older one, pick the current release so 8 |
| 12:25.18 | ewew | afidegnum oldstable debian 7, stable debian 8 |
| 12:25.39 | afidegnum | ok, thanks, |
| 12:25.58 | ewew | afidegnum https://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 12:25.58 | jelly | afidegnum: there's a learning curve with systemd and apache 2.4 and some other stuff so... be aware of that |
| 12:26.15 | jelly | !jessie release notes |
| 12:26.15 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes . See also <wheezy->jessie>, <install guide>. |
| 12:26.48 | afidegnum | ok, let me put my head into ti |
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| 12:36.14 | Haxxa | Is BRTFS EXT4 or XFS good for a laptop - any thoughts or rationale? |
| 12:36.49 | aborrero | Haxxa: I simply use ext4 |
| 12:37.12 | afidegnum | ok, this is what's happening to me, as I install the default Rescue system from my server admin, Debian 7 is installed by default. how do I upgrade to jessie? |
| 12:37.21 | afidegnum | is apt-get upgrade enough? |
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| 12:37.29 | jelly | Haxxa: if you don't know any better, have no need for btrfs features that override its instability, and no need for hugely extendable fs like xfs, stick with ext4 |
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| 12:37.47 | jelly | afidegnum: read /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
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| 12:38.19 | Haxxa | jelly, I like snapshots and compression? they seem cool |
| 12:38.57 | jelly | Haxxa: I like them too, but I also like not to have to reformat every couple months after testing those features extensively |
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| 12:39.30 | jelly | if you merely "like" and not "need" them... |
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| 12:45.03 | circ-user-Suu6W | hi. how can i change my nickname here with command? |
| 12:45.18 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:45.33 | MalikiAjdar | thanks you petemc |
| 12:45.35 | petemc | np |
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| 12:52.02 | peace2you | i'm using lxde. xscreensaver asks me to enter password twice, not always but sometime. What can cause this ? |
| 12:52.41 | peace2you | *when i want unlock screen... |
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| 13:02.09 | MalikiAjdar | . |
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| 13:02.55 | jeddi | peace2you: typing the password wrongly, of course, will do that. but i'm guessing you think you typed it right the first time? hmm .. does ~/.xsession-errors include failed password attempts? certainly /var/log/syslog or messages (or the systemd equiv) will report failed auth attempts, so you can rule that out. |
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| 13:04.41 | peace2you | no, i typing it right. i type one time, screen opens just for few seconds and again xscreensaver asks for password... |
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| 13:06.52 | jeddi | oh - okay - did you look at xsession or Xorg logs? |
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| 13:10.10 | peace2you | yes, not see failed login attempts.. |
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| 13:12.31 | peace2you | don't know what to look really... |
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| 13:14.41 | Cerealkill3r | Hey guys, I tried debian 8 on livecd,but wifi and display drivers didn't work ,now, i'm running ubuntu 15.04 and want to make the migration,where should i get drivers from ? (I have to mention I am running on a lenovo thinkpad edge e520) |
| 13:15.17 | swift110-phone | Hey |
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| 13:15.37 | Tsutsukakushi | swift110-phone: sup |
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| 13:17.40 | swift110-phone | How r u tsu |
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| 13:18.16 | Tsutsukakushi | swift110-phone: so and so |
| 13:19.06 | swift110-phone | Ok |
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| 13:23.53 | rysiek|pl | damn |
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| 13:24.14 | rysiek|pl | for some reason inotifywait ignores a delete_self event here |
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| 13:30.35 | afidegnum | hmm... i want to go back to debian 7, some packages are having incompatibilities issues... For how long debian 7 will be supported? |
| 13:31.01 | jelly | !lts |
| 13:31.01 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:31.25 | jelly | afidegnum: see the https://wiki.debian.org/LTS page for an estimate |
| 13:31.32 | themill | Alternatively, fix the problems. |
| 13:31.38 | jelly | nah! |
| 13:31.58 | jelly | then he's going to ask HERE about said issues! |
| 13:32.03 | afidegnum | hmm... |
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| 13:37.42 | alice_ | hello |
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| 13:38.18 | alice_ | i've got a tiny problem with my debian, it reboots sometimes randomly last few days, can someone maybe give me a hand to solve this problem? |
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| 13:40.07 | alice_ | nope? |
| 13:40.41 | jelly | nope |
| 13:41.07 | jelly | maybe everyone's busy |
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| 13:41.38 | francis7 | ! |
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| 13:41.58 | abrotman | dvorak spam .. the worst |
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| 13:42.43 | ewew | Why they just remap their keyboards ? |
| 13:42.52 | jelly | INSTA PERMABAN |
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| 13:43.24 | blind | I tried switching to dvorak a couple times.. didn't force myself enough I suppose. |
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| 13:57.41 | wombawomba | I'm trying to install an old version of the 'cassandra' package from http://dl.bintray.com/apache/cassandra/ (it's under pool). How do I get apt-get to pick it up? |
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| 13:58.41 | marvn | you can install packages locally using "dpkg -i <package>" |
| 13:59.08 | wombawomba | I added 'deb http://dl.bintray.com/apache/cassandra/ 21x main' to sources.list, but it doesn't seem to pick anything up from the pool directory... |
| 14:00.05 | marvn | you need to run "apt-get update" first |
| 14:00.27 | wombawomba | I did |
| 14:01.14 | jelly | wombawomba: what does "apt-cache policy cassandra" say? |
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| 14:01.44 | wombawomba | marvn: if I try e.g. `apt-cache madison cassandra`, I only see the version in dists/21x/main, not the versions in pool |
| 14:01.50 | wombawomba | jelly: 1 sec |
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| 14:02.27 | wombawomba | jelly: I only see 2.1.11 (which is in dists/21x/main) |
| 14:02.37 | jelly | wombawomba: seems reasonable? |
| 14:03.01 | jelly | after all, you only enabled 21x main |
| 14:03.10 | wombawomba | hmm |
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| 14:03.27 | wombawomba | yeah, I guess what I'm asking is how I enable the pool directory |
| 14:04.03 | jelly | wombawomba: you do not. Instead, you configure the correct repo (release and... um, that section thing "main") |
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| 14:04.36 | blawiz | 'apt-cache showpkg sed' only show the current version, how can i get older versions? need to downgrade this package (debian stable) |
| 14:05.07 | Asenar | BlackDevil, apt-cache policy ? |
| 14:06.29 | wombawomba | jelly: so for this particular repo, there would be no way I can get e.g. 2.1.10? |
| 14:06.41 | wombawomba | since 2.1.11 is the only thing that's listed in http://dl.bintray.com/apache/cassandra/dists/21x/main/ |
| 14:06.44 | wombawomba | afaict |
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| 14:09.20 | ws2k3 | Hello i'm trying to install java 8 on debian 7.0(oracle) in the past i used this tutorial https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage is this still the way to go with java 8 ? cause the tutorial is for java 7 |
| 14:11.11 | wombawomba | jelly: to clarify, 2.1.10 (which I want) is in pool, but is not referred from anywhere in dists |
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| 14:11.51 | jelly | wombawomba: correct. You'd have to grab it from the pool directly and put it into a local repo if you want to install using apt to manage dependencies. |
| 14:11.59 | jhutchins | ws2k3: Have you looked at the changelog for Java 8 to see what might be different? |
| 14:12.17 | ws2k3 | jhutchins no i have not |
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| 14:12.42 | DanteLA | There is package 'unetbootin' in wheezy and sid, but not in jessie? |
| 14:12.43 | jelly | wombawomba: or ask the owners of said repo to rebuild the repo metadata to provide access to older versions |
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| 14:13.02 | jelly | dpkg, tell wombawomba about own repo |
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| 14:15.22 | wombawomba | jelly: cool, thanks |
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| 14:15.45 | ewew | dpkg, tell ewew about own repo |
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| 14:28.43 | axk4545 | hello, the question concerns a debian based live cd. when I boot the cd, it does not recognize any of my network adapters. ethernet is Intel 82579LM and wifi is Intel 7260 |
| 14:28.53 | axk4545 | any ideas? |
| 14:29.06 | axk4545 | *this question |
| 14:30.22 | jelly | axk4545: that wifi requires non-free firmware, but the ethernet card _probably_ doesn't |
| 14:30.37 | jelly | !firmware live |
| 14:30.37 | dpkg | Unofficial <live> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for using Debian 8 "jessie" as a live OS are available under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ . See also <firmware images>. |
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| 14:30.56 | jelly | axk4545: ^^ try one of those images instead |
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| 14:32.55 | axk4545 | jelly, thank you. any idea how to get those in a debian derived distro. I am trying to use TAILS. I asked in #tails on oftc as well. |
| 14:33.01 | axk4545 | *? |
| 14:33.57 | jelly | um... ask them |
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| 14:34.22 | jelly | !tails |
| 14:34.22 | dpkg | Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 14:34.36 | axk4545 | jelly, ok. thank you. |
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| 14:35.56 | Cerealkill3r | hey guys,just installed debian and wifi isn't working,running (Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000) any help please? |
| 14:36.41 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: connect using wired ethernet, install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 14:36.45 | jelly | !non-free sources |
| 14:36.45 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 14:36.50 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: ^^ |
| 14:37.00 | jelly | !iwlwifi |
| 14:37.00 | dpkg | The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices are listed at https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>, <iwl7000>. |
| 14:38.58 | Cerealkill3r | Ok,I must add I'm a fairly new linux user,i opened that file,so,i need to add "main contrib non-free" at the end of what? |
| 14:39.27 | jhutchins | Cerealkill3r: You probably already have main - just add contrib non-free |
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| 14:39.44 | Cerealkill3r | jhutchins, done,and now? |
| 14:40.02 | jhutchins | Cerealkill3r: aptitude update to update the catalog |
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| 14:40.32 | Cerealkill3r | jhutchins, oky doky,and that would be about it ? |
| 14:40.50 | jhutchins | Cerealkill3r: Well, aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 14:41.21 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: if that installed stuff, you can reboot and see how wifi works after reboot |
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| 14:42.19 | Cerealkill3r | "No candidate version found for firmware-iwlwifi " |
| 14:42.56 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:42.58 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:42.59 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 14:43.39 | Cerealkill3r | http://paste.debian.net/318349/ |
| 14:44.09 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: forgot to add contrib non-free in line 7 |
| 14:44.36 | jelly | precisely the most important one |
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| 14:49.25 | Cerealkill3r | hmm I'll reboot and tell you guys the outcome :) brb 1 minute |
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| 14:51.42 | Cerealkill3r | still not working, http://paste.debian.net/318352/ (sources.list pastebin) aptitude install didn't work |
| 14:52.07 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: remember to run "aptitude update" or "apt-get update" before trying to install |
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| 14:55.11 | Cerealkill3r | thanks guys,It's working now ! :) |
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| 14:59.40 | jelly | !next |
| 14:59.41 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 15:06.17 | ancky_ | I have a workstation that sends logs or error messages via email to a user that doesn't exist and they are clogging the queue on the email server. |
| 15:06.27 | LordShadowWing | http://s27.postimg.org/b34mj2j35/screenshot_10272015_095632am.png |
| 15:06.57 | ancky_ | we already adapted /etc/aliases but it is still happening, is there any way to see what is sending these mails? |
| 15:06.59 | LordShadowWing | That is a screenshot of what the Nouveau Drivers are doing with My GTX 750Ti |
| 15:07.35 | ancky_ | I don't have access to the email server, the admins just tell me to fix the pcs |
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| 15:08.41 | ewew | ancky_ Check logs on your gateway. |
| 15:08.46 | petn-randall | ancky_: How is this related to Debian? |
| 15:09.43 | ancky_ | petn-randall: its a computer problem I have with debian, maybe its not directly related to debian |
| 15:09.59 | petn-randall | ancky_: Are you running Debian on the workstation? |
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| 15:10.25 | ancky_ | petn-randall: yes |
| 15:10.54 | ewew | ancky_ Check the settings in /etc/rsyslog.conf. |
| 15:10.55 | petn-randall | ancky_: Ah, I see. You can check /var/log/mail.log for logs of what sent it. |
| 15:11.12 | petn-randall | ewew: How is this related to rsyslog? |
| 15:11.32 | petn-randall | Oh wait, I see your point. |
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| 15:12.18 | ewew | wait, theres a plugin that can send emails from rsyslog ? |
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| 15:12.40 | jelly | LordShadowWing: nice |
| 15:13.02 | ewew | LordShadowWing Do logs say something about it ? |
| 15:13.17 | ancky_ | the mail.log is empty |
| 15:13.38 | jelly | ewew: I suspect there are no logs for "GPU driver is glitching" |
| 15:13.47 | petn-randall | ancky_: You could check the contents of the mails to have a guess what's sending it. |
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| 15:14.00 | petn-randall | ancky_: What SMTP server do you have installed on your workstation. |
| 15:14.10 | ancky_ | petn-randall: its exim |
| 15:15.06 | ancky_ | they sent me the mails but its just the headers and I can't find anything what is sending the mails |
| 15:15.47 | ewew | ancky_ check ps -Af, then cron files, netstat -anvpe | pager |
| 15:16.46 | ancky_ | thanks! I will try, maybe I'm just a bit confused |
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| 15:28.25 | Psy-Q | it seems my iceweasel icon has been replaced by a big white square with a blue line in a half-circle in the bottom right corner |
| 15:28.36 | Psy-Q | that's iceweasel from experimental. what could it be? |
| 15:29.16 | Psy-Q | at 16x16 it's even just a transparent png |
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| 15:31.24 | x86_64 | might sound stupid: but how do i get the size of a file (absolute size, not size on disk) on the shell? |
| 15:31.27 | x86_64 | bash |
| 15:31.27 | jelly | Psy-Q: it's experimental... file a bug report |
| 15:31.31 | jelly | !experimental |
| 15:31.31 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 15:34.11 | jelly | Psy-Q: but for a start, find the icon file on the filesystem and verify whether an image viewer can view it normally |
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| 15:36.31 | pofffs | I have an issue with claws. I installed some gnupg packages from source, and sylpheed, and now both claws and sylpheed can encrypt, but not decrypt. I am losing my mind. |
| 15:36.41 | Psy-Q | https://imgur.com/a/mPTgL <- no, they are broken |
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| 15:37.07 | Psy-Q | jelly: i know it's "experimental" but that repo is the official way the debian mozilla teams recommends for installing the stable (!) iceweasel release |
| 15:37.25 | Psy-Q | they are valid PNG files but show the wrong bits of the weasel |
| 15:37.35 | LordShadowWing | Guys, nave any idea as to why the Nouveau Drivers on GeForce GTX750Ti are doing This: http://s27.postimg.org/b34mj2j35/screenshot_10272015_095632am.png |
| 15:37.36 | jelly | that sounds dirty |
| 15:37.50 | Psy-Q | yeah, well, it's only a weasel arm |
| 15:37.55 | Psy-Q | it could be worse |
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| 15:38.43 | jelly | but it also sounds more like a desktop environment issue -- it probably should scale the icon or use a scalable .svg / .svgz one if present |
| 15:38.44 | Psy-Q | i searched bugs.debian.org earlier but no one had reported that |
| 15:39.04 | Psy-Q | jelly: other applications don't have the issue and the .pngs are part of the package :| |
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| 15:39.15 | Psy-Q | they are listed when i do dpkg -L iceweasel, so they were not generated here |
| 15:39.30 | Psy-Q | and i think xfce only uses the png one anyhow (even though it would support svg) |
| 15:39.52 | Cerealkill3r | hey guys,fresh install of debian 8 , can't copy files to desktop ( i must say my partitioned home folder remained the same ( I didn't repartition it because i had data on it )) |
| 15:39.57 | Psy-Q | i could try a reinstall to see if it's a weird filesystem issue that corrupted the PNGs? |
| 15:40.04 | jelly | Psy-Q: the esr build from stable has... iceweasel: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/iceweasel.svg |
| 15:40.31 | jelly | Psy-Q: does "dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/iceweasel.svg" say anything? |
| 15:40.45 | jelly | (and is the file present?) |
| 15:40.55 | Psy-Q | jelly: yeah, "iceweasel: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/iceweasel.svg" |
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| 15:41.16 | jelly | Psy-Q: no idea then |
| 15:41.17 | Psy-Q | the svg works fine, it just seems that the .desktop files packaged refer to the png ones? |
| 15:41.32 | Psy-Q | ah no, the .desktop file has nothing on that |
| 15:41.32 | jelly | and that's a bug you probably ought to report |
| 15:41.44 | Psy-Q | ok, will do! |
| 15:41.45 | jelly | if it were true |
| 15:41.55 | Psy-Q | i definitely get those .pngs as part of the package |
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| 15:42.29 | jelly | I don't actually have any idea on how gnome or kde or xfce pick the icon to use and how they do fallbacks when it's missing |
| 15:42.39 | Psy-Q | i don't know either :) |
| 15:42.46 | Psy-Q | i think gnome3 picks the SVG if it's there |
| 15:43.13 | Psy-Q | https://gist.github.com/psy-q/a018867d8b74d0f01dfe <- that's dpkg -L iceweasel with iceweasel 41.0.2-1 |
| 15:44.54 | jelly | looks about the same as 38.3.0esr-1~deb8u1 |
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| 15:46.25 | Cerealkill3r | any help? i can't use my desktop at all,can't copy stuff on it (the actual desktop ) |
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| 15:50.45 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: what do "id -a" and "ls -lad ~ ~/Desktop" say? |
| 15:51.04 | jelly | (in other words, did the user and numeric uid stay the same?) |
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| 15:52.16 | LordShadowWing | How Do I enable the Radeon Drivers for My HD5450? |
| 15:52.43 | Cerealkill3r | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/318367/ |
| 15:53.03 | towo` | LordShadowWing, install firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 15:53.24 | LordShadowWing | This card requires non-free firmware????? |
| 15:53.27 | towo` | LordShadowWing, the drivers are installed by default, only the firmware is missing from a default install |
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| 15:53.47 | towo` | LordShadowWing, all radeon-cards needs firmware |
| 15:54.05 | LordShadowWing | As an FSF Member I must Reject AMD |
| 15:54.21 | Psy-Q | it's odd that it ok, submitted the bug |
| 15:54.25 | jelly | LordShadowWing: yeah, radeon hds require some firmware. Investigate your hardware carefully before buying. |
| 15:54.50 | LordShadowWing | I have an OLD Nvidia GeForce GT220 lying around |
| 15:54.53 | Psy-Q | err, that was two sentences merged into one, ignore me |
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| 15:55.14 | Psy-Q | LordShadowWing: nouveau might be able to drive that |
| 15:55.24 | jelly | LordShadowWing: it will work with nouveau except for vdpau acceleration, that requires firmware too :-) |
| 15:55.25 | towo` | LordShadowWing, this nv-card would work with nouveau without 3rc party firmware |
| 15:55.52 | jelly | no warranty on whether it will work _stable_ |
| 15:56.14 | towo` | jelly, since when firmware is needed for vdpau? |
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| 15:56.46 | jelly | towo`: since... forever, for full functionality |
| 15:56.49 | towo` | jelly, given that there is no 3rd party firmware for nvidia |
| 15:56.57 | Psy-Q | power management won't work on that card with nouveau |
| 15:56.58 | jelly | towo`: it's 1st party firmware |
| 15:57.07 | Psy-Q | it will probably run very slowly at initialization clock |
| 15:57.09 | towo` | doesn't exist |
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| 15:57.40 | Psy-Q | does intel require blobs? otherwise, their iris 6200 is pretty fast |
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| 15:57.45 | Cerealkill3r | Anybody can help with my desktop problem,it might be the file manager? but i can't add anything to the desktop,and it's not shown in the file manager either |
| 15:57.48 | Psy-Q | even though a CPU with that in it costs a lot |
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| 15:58.10 | jelly | towo`: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/VideoAcceleration/ (scroll down a bit, some bits get cut out of nvidia installer) |
| 15:58.41 | towo` | Psy-Q, the newest intel graphic is requireing blob firmware |
| 15:58.44 | bathman | i'm on debian 7.8 - any reason why a simple ftp client (i think it used to be called just: ftp) isn't available anymore? |
| 15:58.52 | Psy-Q | towo`: ah, that's the one i meant, i guess. iris pro 6xxx and newer |
| 15:58.56 | Psy-Q | *sigh* |
| 15:59.04 | Psy-Q | we won't get any free 3D acceleration any time soon it seems |
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| 15:59.16 | jelly | Psy-Q: their GPU doesn't require firmware, but the CPU has microcode updates, and isn't Iris Pro only present in Macs? |
| 15:59.17 | bathman | ... and what alternative should i use? |
| 15:59.50 | Psy-Q | jelly: nah, you can get it in some cpus, i saw some benchmarks recently |
| 16:00.02 | mrtesty | can we buy paid support for Debian? |
| 16:00.08 | jelly | bathman: lftp is quite nice |
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| 16:00.18 | Psy-Q | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2DgUtg7c28 <- here for example, the i7-5775C has iris pro 6200 in it |
| 16:00.24 | jelly | !consultants |
| 16:00.24 | dpkg | [consultants] http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 16:00.51 | bathman | jelly: i'll give it a try, thx |
| 16:01.07 | NHunter | hi all |
| 16:01.21 | jelly | mrtesty: yes, see above ^^ If you require paid support for older releases, see Freexian's paid LTS support. https://www.freexian.com/en/services/debian-lts.html |
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| 16:01.30 | Psy-Q | so all modern cards and integrated graphics require blobs, except nvidia (and then only with nouveau and no card reclocking at the moment)? |
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| 16:01.48 | jelly | Psy-Q: GT220 isn't that modern any more |
| 16:01.56 | Psy-Q | jelly: no, i was just thinking of the future |
| 16:02.05 | Psy-Q | whether there's any card maker that still plays nice |
| 16:02.13 | jelly | Psy-Q: intel gpu cards don't require blobs. |
| 16:02.15 | Psy-Q | because my box at home is due for a replacement in a year or two |
| 16:02.26 | Psy-Q | jelly: didn't towo` just say the new cards do? :| |
| 16:02.27 | jelly | but they're not "cards" per se |
| 16:02.36 | Psy-Q | yeah, well, integrated graphics circuits |
| 16:02.40 | MTRX | i wish there was a wubi.exe style installer for debian. 8( |
| 16:02.41 | NHunter | I have a problem. Grub2 of Debian 8 do not saw LUKS partition with root of this Debian |
| 16:02.58 | jelly | Psy-Q: oh, I don't know what "latest" means there |
| 16:03.06 | Psy-Q | jelly: i am guessing iris pro 6200 and newer |
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| 16:03.43 | MTRX | i wonder what all i'd have to do mod to get some wubi deb going. |
| 16:03.43 | towo` | jelly, skylake and above gpu need firmware |
| 16:03.54 | Psy-Q | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_HD_and_Iris_Graphics#Skylake and HD Graphics 510, 5xx, P5xx |
| 16:04.02 | Psy-Q | that is really sad |
| 16:04.04 | jelly | towo`: oh great |
| 16:04.17 | Psy-Q | so we can play at 2 fps with nouveau for the time being |
| 16:04.33 | Psy-Q | or with outdated intel machines |
| 16:04.51 | MadMan2021 | Greetings, all I would like to host a Windows virtual machine on my server. Would VirtualBox work since the server is CLI only or would I be better installing something else. |
| 16:04.52 | jelly | Psy-Q: Linux has _always_ worked best with 12 month old hw |
| 16:05.05 | Psy-Q | jelly: i don't mind 12 months old, but if the situation gets *worse* with new hardware, wow! |
| 16:05.11 | jelly | buy the latest stuff, you get what you deserve |
| 16:05.13 | Psy-Q | then i can just as well stay with my shitty binary nvidia shit |
| 16:05.13 | NHunter | who grub2 guru there? |
| 16:05.23 | Psy-Q | jelly: ah, so you think we will reverse engineer the intel blobs? |
| 16:05.33 | jelly | we? |
| 16:05.38 | towo` | MadMan2021, it would work since vbox does not need a gui |
| 16:05.38 | Psy-Q | "the community" |
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| 16:05.45 | jelly | is not an #intel-gfx dev |
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| 16:05.56 | Psy-Q | "we" as in "not the people hired at intel" |
| 16:05.58 | NHunter | please help me guys |
| 16:06.16 | MadMan2021 | towo`: Thanks would you reccomend getting a KVM attached or is there not much risk in installing Vbox |
| 16:06.34 | mrtesty | jelly, ok thanks, also how much should I charge for Debian Installation with printer installations and basic networking and basic firewall setup and full disk encryption and other stufuf like GPG configuration and hardening as per guides available? |
| 16:06.35 | MadMan2021 | NHunter: Just ask your question. |
| 16:06.48 | jelly | NHunter: do you have a separate, non-encrypted /boot ? |
| 16:07.08 | towo` | MadMan2021, you should install with what you can work at best |
| 16:07.56 | jelly | mrtesty: that depends on the country your client is in, your hourly or fixed rates, whether you're bundling the service with something else... |
| 16:09.27 | NHunter | I move root of my Debian 8 from one LVM-on-LUKS-partition to another. And now this grub2 do not see new LUKS-partition. It do not asks the password from LUKS yet... |
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| 16:09.45 | r0xtedy | hello!! ;) |
| 16:09.47 | r0xtedy | poeple |
| 16:09.53 | r0xtedy | how do you configure grive to work? |
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| 16:09.59 | r0xtedy | or it doesnt work anymore for google drive? |
| 16:10.04 | r0xtedy | curious |
| 16:11.14 | jelly | NHunter: can you answer the question? |
| 16:11.16 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone does anyone know how to mount raw disk images by default with a double click? These are raw disk images made by ddrescue ( dd images basically ). |
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| 16:11.29 | jhutchins | r0xtedy: http://www.lbreda.com/grive/start |
| 16:11.42 | NHunter | jelly: yes |
| 16:12.13 | jelly | NHunter: yes as in "yes, you have a separate non-encrypted /boot"? |
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| 16:12.37 | MTRX | anyone ever play with wayland?? |
| 16:12.40 | jelly | or yes in "yes, you can answer a question" |
| 16:12.44 | NHunter | yes, I have separate boot |
| 16:13.02 | NHunter | non-luks |
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| 16:13.23 | jelly | NHunter: in that case there's no need for grub to ask for the passphrase. linux will boot and initramfs, easrly userspace is supposed to ask |
| 16:13.23 | jhutchins | r0xtedy: Actually, according to this: https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools the api has changed and grive no longer works. |
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| 16:14.01 | THE_GFR|WORK | anyone know what I am talking about? |
| 16:14.08 | jelly | NHunter: does linux kernel boot at all? |
| 16:15.48 | NHunter | Linux kernel and initial boot. But vg/lv do not find. I think because not asks password from luks |
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| 16:16.16 | MTRX | not with a double click, that soudns like something youll need to setup THE_GFR|WORK |
| 16:16.30 | MTRX | depending on your gui and what not. |
| 16:17.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: I used to be able to do it just like I mentioned in an older version of Ubuntu, the feature was removed, and most people since it wasn't used a lot have pretty much forgotten and when I ask about it think I am stupid or crazy. |
| 16:17.33 | MTRX | why not make a script to do it for you, and create a shortcut to the desktop THE_GFR|WORK |
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| 16:18.40 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: I do want it to automatically mount and detect the file system etc just like I used to with my old Ubuntu, but, have it show up on the left side of my file manager |
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| 16:18.50 | THE_GFR|WORK | with eject button |
| 16:18.53 | THE_GFR|WORK | etc |
| 16:19.06 | THE_GFR|WORK | I don't have to double click the image per se but that would be convenient |
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| 16:19.47 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK : perhaps make a bash script or something with all the command to mount it manually, send the file name variable to the script, and fiddle with it, maybe u can make a script. then associate the file type with the script, so when you double click the image, the file name and path get sent to the script and do all the work for you. |
| 16:19.58 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK what desktop are you using?? gnome?? |
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| 16:20.25 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: well yea gnome |
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| 16:20.41 | NHunter | before that (from another luks) grub2 asks password from luks at boots |
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| 16:21.07 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK http://askubuntu.com/questions/48959/mount-raw-dd-images-using-gui-nautilus-the-same-way-as-an-iso-file-double-click <------ is that your question?? o_O |
| 16:21.18 | jhutchins | THE_GFR|WORK: I think what you want is to mount it via loopback, but I don't know how to integrate that process with the GUI. Of course, it depends on which desktop/file manager you use. That stuff is mostly done with fuse in the GUI. |
| 16:21.31 | jhutchins | MTRX: That looks like a good find. |
| 16:22.12 | MTRX | jhutchins he just wants to be able to double click the image from the desktop or file browser, and have it auto mount for him, so he doesn't have go into terminal. |
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| 16:22.40 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: true, I think maybe Archive Mounter can do it? I don't kow anymore |
| 16:22.52 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: I guess GVFS |
| 16:23.25 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: thanks for not saying I'm crazy for wanting to do what I mentioned as most other people have |
| 16:23.49 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK read that article, there's also a download link for a script that will help you get it done. |
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| 16:24.25 | r0xtedy | guys, there are so many bugs on debian 8 |
| 16:24.30 | MTRX | https://edge.launchpad.net/~zootropo/+archive/+files/nautilus-mount-image_0.2.0-1_all.deb <------- that's one of the script thingies one of the guy used to do it. |
| 16:24.40 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: basically |
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| 16:25.26 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: cool beans thanks I'll take a look |
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| 16:25.38 | MTRX | haha THE_GFR|WORK : not crazy. almost anything is possible in a pc. just depends how far you're willing to go down the rabbit hole to do it. |
| 16:25.41 | Trash_Override | hi everyone |
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| 16:26.07 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: right, I was almost ready to hire a programmer to make something for the GUI |
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| 16:26.38 | MTRX | LOL. point made. |
| 16:26.45 | Trash_Override | i wanna adopt some packages, but the Debian developers list dont response my mesgs |
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| 16:27.00 | MTRX | 8( |
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| 16:27.53 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: not really funny, most people have to know why I want to do what I wanted to do, then tell me to do it via CLI and otherwise screw off |
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| 16:29.20 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK : that's the exact reason i hate forums so much. when you post a question instead of getting answers, you got 20RESPONSES asking why you want to do it, 20 more saying you shouldn't do it, and none as to how you do it. |
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| 16:29.46 | MTRX | i hate that crap so much. |
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| 16:30.56 | MTRX | or you get 20 responses on why, and how completely is impossible to do it, then at the very end of hte thread there's the one guy who knows how to do it, but you have to wait months for that answer that makes all the nay sayers look like morons. |
| 16:31.06 | ewew | offtopic ? |
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| 16:31.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: I get that most of the time on IRC actually, refuse to post in forums because it takes too long |
| 16:31.57 | MTRX | once you realize there is no topic, you'll see it is not the topic that bends, but you. |
| 16:32.08 | Trash_Override | MTRX that is to me ? |
| 16:32.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: do you happen to know where I might get a copy of the .deb file for Archive Mounter? |
| 16:32.25 | MTRX | lemme see |
| 16:32.38 | THE_GFR|WORK | Trash_Override: that was for ewew |
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| 16:33.43 | Trash_Override | where i can get some information about debians developers? |
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| 16:33.47 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: looking to get the one that was in Ubuntu 10.04 I think... that's the one I really need I think |
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| 16:34.09 | MTRX | yeah im seeing that too. THE_GFR|WORK seems it was out with 10.04. |
| 16:34.52 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: it was gone in 10.04 or in 10.04 and gone after? |
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| 16:35.07 | r0xtedy | anybody had problems with owncloud on deb8? |
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| 16:36.34 | r0xtedy | http://imgur.com/VXda1Ak |
| 16:36.41 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK https://apps.staging.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/nautilus/ <----- try that |
| 16:36.45 | r0xtedy | I tripple checked the logins |
| 16:36.55 | MTRX | there's a software centre link there for the archive mounter i think |
| 16:37.25 | MTRX | THE_GFR|WORK it was included in 10.04 i don't see it talked about much after 10.04 |
| 16:37.30 | MTRX | dunno why they would have ditched it. |
| 16:37.32 | MTRX | o_O |
| 16:37.34 | MTRX | brb |
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| 16:37.55 | THE_GFR|WORK | MTRX: ok well I need the .deb file for Archive Mounter not Nautilus |
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| 17:03.20 | CtrlC | Hello guys, I've got qtcreator installed form repos. There is no example in it as it is when you download qt from qt.io . Which package should I exactly install? I can't find anything proper via apt-cache. Maybe there isn't any? |
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| 17:04.26 | jhutchins | CtrlC: What is your actual goal? |
| 17:05.04 | CtrlC | jhutchins: To get the qt examples.(they should be shown in qtcreator) |
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| 17:07.46 | jelly | CtrlC: are all the Recommends: installed? |
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| 17:08.30 | CtrlC | I can't remember jelly. |
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| 17:09.11 | jelly | CtrlC: dpkg -s qtcreator, look at the Recommends header and check |
| 17:09.53 | CtrlC | Ok. thanks.:) |
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| 17:12.54 | r0xtedy | guys, whats the best option to connect to remote desktop on jessie? |
| 17:13.02 | r0xtedy | which server should I run? |
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| 17:15.14 | r0xtedy | or xrdp with gnome 3? |
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| 17:21.51 | jhutchins | r0xtedy: ssh |
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| 17:22.54 | jelly | warning: does not provide an actual desktop |
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| 17:26.34 | jelly | r0xtedy: ssh is the most common way to remotely access a linux system. Most remote managing tasks can be done without a GUI. That said, what do you need a remote desktop for? |
| 17:26.54 | r0xtedy | configure my employees computer |
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| 17:27.04 | r0xtedy | and help him if something happens |
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| 17:31.53 | jhutchins | r0xtedy: xvnc then. |
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| 17:35.30 | jelly | r0xtedy: that's x11vnc, if you need to access the same session they're using at that moment |
| 17:36.00 | jelly | jhutchins: xvnc? |
| 17:36.42 | colo-work | is there a Debian-specific guide that details the switch from the `xm` xen-tools stack to the `xl` stack? |
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| 17:38.33 | GitGud | hi jelly |
| 17:38.45 | GitGud | are you a dev for debian? |
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| 17:40.06 | jelly | GitGud: just a user. Please use this channel for tech support, if you want to chat or ask questions on related to support there's #debian-offtopic |
| 17:40.31 | CtrlC | jelly: There is a whole lot of packages there and I can't install them all. |
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| 17:40.39 | GitGud | oh great. theres an offtopic channel |
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| 17:40.55 | jelly | CtrlC: there shouldn't really be a whole lot...? |
| 17:41.08 | jelly | judd: recommends qtcreator |
| 17:41.09 | judd | Package qtcreator in jessie/amd64 -- recommends: gdb, make, qt5-doc, qtbase5-dev-tools, qtcreator-doc, qtdeclarative5-dev-tools, qtquick1-5-dev-tools, qttools5-dev-tools, qttranslations5-l10n, qtxmlpatterns5-dev-tools, xterm | x-terminal-emulator. |
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| 17:41.35 | jelly | CtrlC: alright, that's 11 I'll give you that :-) |
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| 17:42.47 | CtrlC | jelly: All installed. And the problem still remains! |
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| 17:43.52 | jelly | CtrlC: no idea then. It was really just an educated guess... |
| 17:44.26 | CtrlC | I'm afraid there is no examples in the repos at all! |
| 17:44.36 | jelly | check the bug list at bugs.debian.org/qtcreator, or ask in the qt/kde channel |
| 17:45.00 | CtrlC | I asked and no help yet. |
| 17:45.06 | CtrlC | Thanks anyway. |
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| 17:45.19 | jelly | CtrlC: er... #debian-kde over on OFTC, is it? |
| 17:45.32 | CtrlC | er? |
| 17:45.37 | jelly | !kde |
| 17:45.37 | dpkg | KDE software is based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Ask me about <install kde> or <remove kde>. You can also get KDE-specific help in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net) or in other KDE-related IRC channels: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels . Also check out http://wiki.debian.org/KDE . |
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| 17:45.46 | jelly | yeah, it's there. |
| 17:45.49 | CtrlC | er stands for what?:\ |
| 17:46.19 | CtrlC | never mind. |
| 17:46.36 | jelly | nothing, that's just filler |
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| 17:47.59 | jhutchins | notes that many of the specialised debian channels on oftc.net are DEAD, DEAD, DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. |
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| 17:53.02 | jelly | !wb ItsLuke |
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| 17:54.15 | mynickname | is it possible to boot off usb and save sessions on linux distro unsupported by pendrive and unetbootin? |
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| 17:55.00 | mynickname | I know you can boot off unsupported ones. I also need to save sessions on it. |
| 17:55.09 | jelly | mynickname: you can have a normal installation on an usb. Or you can have a livecd/liveusb image with persistence. Yes, it's possible. |
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| 17:55.36 | jelly | debian does not work well unetbootin anyway |
| 17:55.47 | jelly | with* |
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| 17:56.07 | mynickname | which one is the preferred option? installation or persistence? |
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| 17:57.46 | jelly | mynickname: if you have an usb disk or a stick with a decent ssd controller in it, it's probably saner to make a proper installation. liveusb + persistence for normal sticks that don't really live long when you do lots of small writes to them |
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| 17:58.20 | jelly | !persistent live |
| 17:58.20 | dpkg | You can rework the iso-hybrid image that is used with Debian Live (from Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards) so that you can also use it as persistent storage with the live sessions. See http://syn.theti.ca/2013/06/22/tutorial-wheezy-live-iso-hybrid-with-persistence-on-usb/ |
| 17:58.25 | ItsLuke | :D |
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| 18:02.31 | mynickname | k.ty |
| 18:02.52 | GitGud | okay |
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| 18:09.28 | strk | I'm trying a liv debian 7 and getting: ACPI: Unable to load the System Description Tables |
| 18:09.36 | strk | (against a Lenovo B50-30 laptop) |
| 18:09.47 | jelly | strk: why not debian 8? |
| 18:09.49 | strk | also loads of "modprobe: module swap not found in modules.dep" |
| 18:10.01 | strk | jelly: not reason, I just happened to have an iso for 8 around |
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| 18:10.46 | jelly | strk: if the errors are from a debian 7 live boot, try the current release frist. |
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| 18:12.47 | strk | ok, which file should I download ? debian-8.2.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent is enough ? |
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| 18:22.08 | GitGud | swift110-phone, and here too. nice |
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| 18:30.44 | jelly | strk: that sounds like the installer image, not a live image |
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| 18:32.03 | strk | but that's what's linked from https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
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| 18:32.33 | strk | oh, it was not ? |
| 18:32.51 | strk | ok, getting the mate desktop liv e:) |
| 18:33.45 | jelly | strk: oh, then that's fine. I get confused by installer and live images having similar names. |
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| 18:36.57 | strk | actually it was me having a bogus link, as the name now is debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-mate-desktop.iso.torrent |
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| 18:38.22 | jelly | that seems more like it |
| 18:38.42 | jelly | strk: do you have a laptop? |
| 18:38.55 | strk | more than needed |
| 18:39.01 | jelly | or some other machine requring wireless or other firmware? |
| 18:39.20 | strk | actually I've no desktop machine, was thinking about buying one for this year |
| 18:39.35 | jelly | oh that's fine then, because standard live image don't have non-free firmware on them |
| 18:40.00 | strk | all machines do require wireless |
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| 18:40.14 | strk | but I've just installed trisquel and it's supporting the wifi |
| 18:40.31 | jelly | good, that means normal debian live ought to support it as well |
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| 18:41.02 | jelly | (except for that one bug where debian 8 doesn't have a now-free fw packaged yet) |
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| 18:43.49 | Colti | r0xtedy use kde or gnome with xrdp when you are connecting through lan if you have slower connection use lxde desktop |
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| 19:00.38 | oo_miguel | I wanted to try the lightweight webbroser "netsurf" but there seems to be some issue concerning the fonts. They seem to overlap under certain conditions. Can somebody have a look and give me possible advise how to fix that: http://postimg.org/image/gf4zf84yf/ |
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| 19:06.53 | jelly | oo_miguel: what's that, Gtk2? |
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| 19:08.02 | oo_miguel | it is gtk I think. |
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| 19:08.41 | jelly | netsurf makes me think Amiga for some reason |
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| 19:09.24 | oo_miguel | I think it is very portable, and can also render directly to the framebuffer if no X is available |
| 19:10.23 | jelly | ,v netsurf |
| 19:10.24 | judd | Package: netsurf on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.9-2; jessie: 3.2+dfsg-2; stretch: 3.2+dfsg-2.2; sid: 3.2+dfsg-2.2 |
| 19:13.05 | jelly | oo_miguel: amusingly it looks fine here on jessie under kde |
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| 19:13.27 | oo_miguel | jelly: Im under jessie too. Ill try another window manager |
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| 19:13.34 | oo_miguel | brb thanks for the suggestion |
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| 19:14.32 | dimitry7 | Hello guys! How can I know if the latest update for Dell PERC (RAID Controller) H710 is compatible with Debian Jessie? |
| 19:14.51 | dimitry7 | is there a Hardware Support List for Debian? |
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| 19:17.34 | jelly | dimitry7: there isn't really but poweredge hardware is usually well supported in linux, in general; also if you have a pci-id number we can look up kernel support for that |
| 19:17.39 | jelly | dimitry7: lspci -nn |
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| 19:19.11 | markybob | dimitry7, works fine. have it at work |
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| 19:20.56 | MY123_Surface_1_ | do Debian support UEFI on ARMv7? |
| 19:21.07 | jhutchins | dimitry7: Dell tends to keep their server grade hardware linux compatible. |
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| 19:23.03 | jhutchins | !armhf |
| 19:23.03 | dpkg | armhf is a port of Debian requiring a floating-point unit (FPU) found in modern <ARM> hardware. It explicitly targets version 7 of the ARM architecture (i.e. not the Raspberry Pi), using the hard-float version of the ARM EABI. The armhf architecture was introduced at Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. See also <armel vs armhf>. |
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| 19:24.24 | buu | Hey, anyone have any suggestions for debugging a nfs mount command that just hangs without returning? I looked into rpcdebug but no errors jumped out at me. It was working up until an upgrade, that among other things, moved to kernel 4.2 |
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| 19:25.26 | dimitry7 | jelly, I have these: http://paste.incorrigible.me/ejusapelis.coffee |
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| 19:26.26 | oo_miguel | aaah, I installed lxde just to find out the netsurf font overlapping issue, but it did not solve it :P |
| 19:26.35 | MY123_SurfaceRT | jhutchins: my ARM PC is definitively ARMv7, but using UEFI(Secure Boot disabled) |
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| 19:27.58 | jhutchins | MY123_SurfaceRT: I think it should work - Linux has supportd EFI for years, but there aren't a lot of people who are going to know much about the install process. |
| 19:28.01 | anonnumberanon | Did Debian remove all support for the Intel Ultimate N wifi card on laptops? |
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| 19:28.42 | GitGud | iwlwifi |
| 19:28.49 | anonnumberanon | I had it on Debian 7 and just switched to Debian 8 and in the Debian documentation it does now show up (https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#Introduction)... |
| 19:28.57 | anonnumberanon | Ah okay that covers it? |
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| 19:29.16 | jhutchins | anonnumberanon: Yeah, hardware support is rarely removed from Linux. |
| 19:29.37 | anonnumberanon | jhutchins, okay. I forgot how I set it up last time, that was like a few years ago. |
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| 19:34.13 | jelly | dimitry7: eh, don't see any hw raid controller there. There's intel onboard in line 19, but don't user that -- switch it to AHCI mode somewhere in BIOS and set up linux md raid, instead |
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| 19:35.05 | jelly | anonnumberanon: verify you have the correct version of firmware-iwlwifi from jessie installed |
| 19:35.12 | jelly | ,v firmware-iwlwifi |
| 19:35.13 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 0.44~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20151018-2; stretch/non-free: 20151018-2 |
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| 19:37.39 | anonnumberanon | I'm trying to make my wifi hardware ready for laptop with Intel Ultimate N wifi card. I've installed the required stuff from https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#Configure_Interface but then when I go to Network Manager, no wifi is installed, what info am I missing? |
| 19:38.34 | markybob | um. you were told by two different people. |
| 19:38.41 | jelly | anonnumberanon: which version of firmware-iwlwifi do you have installed? |
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| 19:39.15 | anonnumberanon | jelly, 0.43 |
| 19:39.32 | jelly | anonnumberanon: did you reboot after you installed it? |
| 19:39.37 | jelly | if not, do that |
| 19:39.39 | anonnumberanon | no |
| 19:39.49 | anonnumberanon | k i will |
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| 19:40.35 | jelly | or manually remove and load back the relevant kernel module (iwlwifi, I suppose) |
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| 19:41.24 | ewew | anonnumberanon Can you toggle the wifi switch on your laptop ? |
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| 19:42.18 | anonnumberanon | jelly, okay that was the thing |
| 19:42.35 | ewew | anonnumberanon Is your issue solved ? |
| 19:42.39 | jelly | anonnumberanon: you're welcome! |
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| 19:43.20 | anonnumberanon | markybob, you've been very rude a few different occasions, that's all I gotta say |
| 19:43.26 | anonnumberanon | ewew, jelly thanks! |
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| 19:49.39 | buu | jelly: Save me from nfs |
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| 19:49.48 | buu | you're my only hope |
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| 19:50.43 | jelly | buu: aptitude remove nfs-kernel-server nfs-common |
| 19:51.03 | buu | =] |
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| 19:51.22 | buu | Are there actually any other non-samba mounting options? |
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| 19:51.40 | buu | Maybe I should just use ssh-fuse |
| 19:51.53 | jelly | non-samba mounting options for what? |
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| 19:51.59 | jelly | !ask |
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| 19:51.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 19:52.05 | buu | Er, to replace nfs |
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| 19:53.37 | ewew | buu This requires to be in fuse group. I think this is a security issue. |
| 19:53.54 | jhutchins | buu: NFS is the Unix Network File System - pretty much the only one. Samba is mostly for MS compatability, although MS can do NFS now. |
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| 19:54.27 | jhutchins | ewew: What did we say about paranoia yesterday? |
| 19:55.19 | buu | jhutchins: Yeah, I generally prefer samba even in non MS contexts but I've got funky filenames that samba complains about |
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| 19:55.41 | jhutchins | buu: Well, fix the filenames. |
| 19:55.43 | buu | jhutchins: The other day my "friend" dist-upgraded my client machine and now it's hanging attempting to mount a remote nfs share |
| 19:55.50 | buu | No! Then they would be less accurate! |
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| 19:56.15 | jelly | buu: sshfs is handy but not really reliable |
| 19:56.18 | jhutchins | buu: Jessie? |
| 19:56.41 | buu | jhutchins: sadly ubuntu client debian server |
| 19:57.19 | jhutchins | buu: Crank up the verbosity and study the logs? |
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| 19:57.35 | buu | jhutchins: The only logging options I found were from rpcdebug, anything else? |
| 19:57.39 | strk | debian 8 also failed shutting down the lenovo B50-30, so far only trisquel handled to shut it down |
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| 19:58.55 | abrotman | Isn't Trisquel based on Debian 7? |
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| 20:00.04 | strk | not sure |
| 20:00.22 | strk | it's latest stable 7.0 I think |
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| 20:00.36 | strk | might research more tomorrow night |
| 20:00.54 | abrotman | 7.0 isn't stable |
| 20:00.57 | abrotman | it's oldstable |
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| 20:01.29 | jelly | abrotman: what does oldstable mean in Trisquel |
| 20:01.41 | abrotman | "Not our problem" :) |
| 20:02.05 | rainfyre | lol |
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| 20:03.27 | Phil` | got a Debian install, all on the same partition. I cannot create a file in /home or /home/* but I can in every other place Iâve tried (/root, /, /opt, /tmp) |
| 20:03.46 | Phil` | `touch foo` in /home says âtouch: setting times of `foo': No such file or directoryâ |
| 20:03.55 | Phil` | vim says âcannot open file for writingâ |
| 20:04.06 | Phil` | nano says âinvalid argumentâ |
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| 20:07.02 | buu | AUGH. |
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| 20:07.14 | buu | I wish I had error messages. |
| 20:07.15 | jelly | Phil`: only root can write to /home/ directory by default |
| 20:07.24 | Phil` | yeh, I am root |
| 20:07.32 | Phil` | but users also cannot write to their own home dirs |
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| 20:07.38 | Phil` | same error |
| 20:07.41 | coffeeguy | is this the school of root? |
| 20:07.42 | jelly | Phil`: is /home a separate mountpoint? |
| 20:07.45 | coffeeguy | :D |
| 20:07.45 | Phil` | nup |
| 20:07.58 | jelly | can't tell if nope or yup |
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| 20:08.04 | ewew | Phil` command df -h and id |
| 20:08.04 | Phil` | no |
| 20:08.24 | jelly | Phil`: ls -ld /home |
| 20:08.34 | n0arch | Phil`: are you able to touch a file elsewhere on the filesystem? |
| 20:08.42 | jelly | (might be permissions, tho being root should override that) |
| 20:08.55 | n0arch | what about mount params |
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| 20:09.14 | Phil` | everyone who asked: https://gist.github.com/phil-lavin/0559e59dc04ff1f42740 |
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| 20:09.53 | jelly | n0arch: "but I can in every other place Iâve tried (/root, /, /opt, /tmp)" + "<jelly> Phil`: is /home a separate mountpoint? <Phil`> no" answers your first question as "yes" |
| 20:10.01 | Phil` | mount params: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (ro,noatime,errors=remount-ro,rce) |
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| 20:10.26 | jelly | Phil`: ro, eh? are you REALLY sure you can create a new file in /root ? |
| 20:10.26 | n0arch | ro, |
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| 20:10.51 | Phil` | I can create a file in those places I said - also see the paste |
| 20:10.56 | Phil` | but thatâs a good spot, missed that |
| 20:11.22 | Phil` | this is fstab: /dev/sda1 / ext3 errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1 |
| 20:11.22 | jelly | Phil`: /, /root and /opt should be on the same read-only filesystem |
| 20:11.31 | Phil` | so ro and rce have added themselves |
| 20:11.39 | Phil` | Iâll try remount rw then |
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| 20:11.42 | jelly | don't |
| 20:11.57 | Phil` | ok |
| 20:12.05 | buu | Ok wtf, it hangs mounting from both a debian client and a ubuntu client |
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| 20:12.14 | buu | showmount -e shows me the appropriate things are being exported |
| 20:12.18 | jelly | Phil`: you need to inspect dmesg for filesystem or block device errors that resulted in the fs getting remounted-ro |
| 20:12.51 | jhutchins | jelly: He said it was all one filesystem. |
| 20:12.52 | n0arch | could be bad sectors |
| 20:13.06 | Phil` | itâs a VM, not sure if that matters |
| 20:13.14 | n0arch | what kind of vm? |
| 20:13.14 | jhutchins | The situation where I've seen that happen was when /home/ was being automounted (from NFS). |
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| 20:13.21 | Phil` | ehhh |
| 20:13.26 | Phil` | think this one is on Rackspace cloud |
| 20:13.36 | jhutchins | automount won't let you write to the mountpoint. |
| 20:13.36 | jelly | Phil`: what does uname -a say? |
| 20:13.42 | buu | sudo mount -t nfs .... ; works on localhost but not remotely? |
| 20:13.49 | Phil` | Linux Jolly 2.6.35.4-rscloud #8 SMP Mon Sep 20 15:54:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 20:14.00 | n0arch | buu: ? |
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| 20:14.28 | jelly | Phil`: do you have control of the kernel on this VPS, is it a fully-virtualized VM or is it some sort of a container? |
| 20:15.11 | Phil` | honestly have no idea how Rackspace have done it |
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| 20:15.24 | Phil` | not had a lot of need to touch it since I set it up 2 or 3 years ago |
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| 20:19.00 | jelly | Phil`: yeah... try to figure that out. if it's a fully-virtualized vm, you may have to reboot and fsck. if it's a vps, some unusual situation on the host may have prompted that remount-ro. In any case, inspect what the kernel had to say (output of dmesg) |
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| 20:19.40 | Phil` | this is the only relevant stuff I can see in demsg: https://gist.github.com/phil-lavin/895ce3fed9dfa3ed1d26 |
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| 20:20.22 | ewew | Phil` This looks like not correct shutdown. |
| 20:20.44 | dimitry7 | jelly, how can I see the driver version for storage? |
| 20:21.07 | jelly | Phil`: that's what happened at boot time. Look near the end. |
| 20:21.27 | jelly | Phil`: or pastebin the whole thing |
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| 20:21.42 | Phil` | that is the end of /var/log/dmesg |
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| 20:22.06 | jelly | Phil`: oh... look at the output of "dmesg" command, not some log file |
| 20:22.14 | Phil` | box recently has a fairly large DDOS so `dmesg` is full of crap relating to that |
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| 20:22.26 | Phil` | possible SYN flooding on port 6667. Sending cookies. |
| 20:22.37 | Phil` | nothing but that and some conntrack stuff in there |
| 20:22.42 | NoImNotNineVolt | send cookies to 15 exchange place, jersey city, nj. |
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| 20:22.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | thank you. |
| 20:23.12 | Phil` | sending cookies doesnât seem the best way to discourage ddos |
| 20:23.15 | jelly | Phil`: if the interesting stuff scrolled off the dmesg buffer, sucks to be you then |
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| 20:23.29 | Phil` | humph |
| 20:23.32 | n0arch | Phil`: do you have any missing files in /bin or /sbin if you `ls -alF` |
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| 20:23.54 | Phil` | n0arch, hard to say if Iâm missing anything |
| 20:23.58 | Phil` | but thereâs certainly a lot there |
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| 20:24.39 | jelly | Phil`: next time, boot with a larger dmesg buffer, add something like log_buf_len=1M to boot params |
| 20:24.47 | Phil` | will do |
| 20:25.01 | Phil` | tried remount rw,noatime which has changed the mount output |
| 20:25.03 | Phil` | /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime) |
| 20:25.10 | Phil` | but same problem as before |
| 20:25.12 | jelly | nothing to do here. remounting rw is not safe before a fsck |
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| 20:25.23 | Phil` | sounds like Iâll need a reboot then |
| 20:25.40 | Phil` | Iâll knock it out of DNS and wait for the users to move off |
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| 20:27.28 | RustyJ | Jelly, that wasn't my bot, it was me getting a vhost for my bot nick. Sorry, for the confusion. I indeed do have no good reason to have a bot in #debian. |
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| 20:28.11 | jelly | RustyJ: alrighty then, no harm done |
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| 20:33.46 | buu | WTF. When I turn up lots of debugging I see the following: Oct 27 15:28:09 hs kernel: RPC: set up xprt to 192.168.0.17 (port 2049) via tcp |
| 20:33.58 | buu | Except my remote machine is 192.168.*1*.17 |
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| 20:34.40 | ZendayaColeman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendaya |
| 20:34.43 | ZendayaColeman | I AM SO COOL |
| 20:34.57 | rabbitear | 7 |
| 20:34.59 | ewew | ZendayaColeman Do you have question ? |
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| 20:35.19 | ZendayaColeman | no |
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| 22:35.25 | A112358 | nevyn: this hardware is very weak in cpu and all system capabilities |
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| 22:40.14 | A112358 | perhaps a price to pay for a clean pc. after snowden my life wasnt the same. |
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| 23:06.24 | A112358 | i was thinking how richard stallman suffer from the sabbotage of hundreds of billion companies counter attack |
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| 23:07.21 | A112358 | the last one i saw was a fake invitation, a saw in youtube |
| 23:07.36 | A112358 | poor richard |
| 23:07.59 | teraflops | pfff |
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| 23:19.01 | stew | aloha debianites |
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| 23:19.21 | stew | what is the state of the art of of apt proxying these days? |
| 23:20.45 | abrotman | winks at stew .. |
| 23:21.01 | stew | abrotman: go cubs |
| 23:21.05 | abrotman | lies! |
| 23:21.34 | abrotman | stew: I don't think it's changed very much. Last I tried, I ended up with approx |
| 23:21.51 | abrotman | I don't think that's the popular choice |
| 23:22.55 | stew | yeah, that was going to be my guess |
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| 23:33.57 | beepie | RayTracer, first you're surprised you never heard of it then you said you tried it. virtio was not "good" within the year I was trying it, but they fixed it later but "much later". Here I will say I never used it. You'll have to see what is the bleeding edge changes. |
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| 23:47.12 | sralbert | test |
| 23:47.49 | sralbert | is anyone seeing this? I'm trying to set up an irc server. |
| 23:48.26 | abrotman | irc client? |
| 23:48.34 | bazhang | try #test sralbert |
| 23:48.42 | sralbert | #test sralbert |
| 23:48.46 | sralbert | ok thanks |
| 23:48.54 | sralbert | yeah i guess client would be the word |
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| 23:55.37 | c0fe | debian needs better graphics and touch screen support |
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| 23:56.49 | stew | ok |
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