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| 00:00.56 | kdog | waves |
| 00:01.06 | goatkid | I am picking up a load of these errors: what does it mean? (process:5374): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed |
| 00:01.06 | goatkid | 2015-10-30 15:48:35: stackwalker.cc:125: INFO: Couldn't load symbols for: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6|E3793FF97CE44BDA7C433D02D321CE400 |
| 00:01.06 | goatkid | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:02.02 | goatkid | Also, aptitude doesn't seem to be downloading anything. |
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| 00:02.45 | kdog | what application is process 5374? aptitude? |
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| 00:06.52 | goatkid | Donno. How do you find out? also Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying.. |
| 00:07.53 | goatkid | I got that closing out aptitude. |
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| 00:08.30 | kdog | goatkid: ps aux will list all processes, but you'd have to catch it still in the list |
| 00:08.43 | dvs | I'm getting a Hash-sum mismatch |
| 00:08.44 | kdog | goatkid: this is happening on jessie? |
| 00:08.57 | goatkid | Yep! |
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| 00:10.15 | kdog | goatkid: when did this start and what changed? |
| 00:10.52 | goatkid | There is a SIGABRT but here: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying..www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg337165.html But somebody said it was resolved. |
| 00:11.13 | Brigo | goatkid, i would check the filesystem. |
| 00:11.14 | kdog | goatkid: I don't know much about the libarry stuff but libc not loading symbols doesn't sound good :-/ |
| 00:11.17 | goatkid | That is bug, I mean |
| 00:11.56 | wsky | what's the name of the gtk3 headers package for jessie? |
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| 00:14.20 | goatkid | smartctl reports on errors logged for sda. |
| 00:14.31 | wsky | k, got it, it has odd naming tho |
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| 00:16.10 | goatkid | no errors logged for sda must mean the disk is okay, right? |
| 00:17.58 | kdog | goatkid: yes. again, tho, what changed on your installation around the time this started? regular updates to debian? install any other packages? |
| 00:19.13 | goatkid | kdog: I loaded on some new parts. Boot up seems fine. I haven't run into anything except I couldn't get transmission and another app today. They happened around aptitude. |
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| 00:21.30 | kdog | goatkid: have you shutdown, removed those parts, and seen the errors afterward? what kind of parts? |
| 00:21.57 | goatkid | Also come to think on it, aptitude wanted to delete dropbox, said the files weren't being used any more. |
| 00:22.59 | goatkid | kdog: The new hardware has been thoroughly tested and is working okay. something is wrong with aptitude. Heard anything? |
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| 00:24.34 | kdog | goatkid: good. I haven't been watching any bug news, but all my machines are working fine with aptitude. |
| 00:24.50 | goatkid | I mean about: Ouch! Got SIGABRT, dying.. |
| 00:26.38 | kdog | goatkid: is dmesg giving you any hints? |
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| 00:29.03 | goatkid | kdog: dmesg is like an 18th century novel to read. What should I look for? |
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| 00:30.44 | kdog | goatkid: LOL. I'd guess your sigabrt and glibc errors would show. Lines around there might point you to some software that isn't happy |
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| 00:30.56 | popl | What's the best way to manage a set of installed packages with specific version requirements? |
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| 00:32.13 | popl | Is there a way to do it with apt? |
| 00:32.20 | goatkid | kdog: I'll open shell in emacs and search. I think stay away from aptitude for awhile. |
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| 00:35.20 | kdog | goatkid: if you do something simple with aptitude like "aptitude search coreutils" do these errors show up? Does it show any additional info like packages not configured when you do this? |
| 00:37.45 | goatkid | kdog: Yeah, when aptitude looked all hairy I quit and got the sigabrt thingy. Apt said that the app transmission got loaded and I haven't been able to find it or lauch if from terminal. Just searched in Dmesg for glibc and sigabrt and nothing turned up. |
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| 00:40.05 | kdog | popl: I've heard of people using apt pinning. Look into that. |
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| 00:40.47 | popl | kdog: Thank you. |
| 00:41.16 | kdog | goatkid: what happens when you run "aptitude upgrade" from the command line? Do you get those errors or is it only in the graphical interface? |
| 00:41.52 | kdog | guesses it barks about transmission |
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| 00:45.24 | goatkid | kdog: it shows 6 packages to upgrade. I hope I can reboot after this is over. Aptitude update went through fine. |
| 00:45.55 | kdog | goatkid: it finished clean? no errors? |
| 00:45.57 | dvs | goatkid: Why not? I guess it depends on the packages. |
| 00:47.52 | goatkid | kdog: But it is complaining about mysql packages. I shut off mysql I use Hugo for my server, don't need it. I don't want to delete though. |
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| 00:49.16 | kdog | goatkid: so if you run "aptitude upgrade" again it's telling you this about mysql? |
| 00:50.07 | kdog | goatkid: don't reboot just yet. I don't think you need to. |
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| 00:50.50 | goatkid | Yep. They are packages I haven't bothered with, more or less. These are the packages: libmysqlclient18 mysql-client-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server |
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| 00:51.54 | kdog | goatkid: run "aptitude why msyql-server" and it will tell you if there are any packages that depend on it. |
| 00:52.33 | kdog | goatkid: if not, and you don't want it, then you can run "aptitude purge msyql-server" and it will remove it |
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| 00:53.37 | goatkid | kdog: I guess I could re-install later. |
| 00:54.28 | goatkid | kdog: not much info from they why except phpmyadmin suggests it. |
| 00:56.04 | kdog | goatkid: you could just purge all those packages then. |
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| 00:57.10 | goatkid | kdog: is it aptitude purge or apt-get purge? Which still doesn't explain where the app transmission went. |
| 00:57.37 | dvs | ,v transmission |
| 00:57.38 | judd | Package: transmission on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.03-2; wheezy-security: 2.52-3+nmu2; wheezy: 2.52-3+nmu2; jessie: 2.84-0.2; sid: 2.84-2; stretch: 2.84-2 |
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| 00:59.28 | Guest27255 | I had realVNC working on my Chromebook using Wheezy but now after upgrading to Jessie it wont work |
| 00:59.59 | Guest27255 | Been googling like crazy but can't figure it out. |
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| 01:01.19 | kdog | goatkid: aptitude or apt-get will work |
| 01:01.38 | kdog | goatkid: let's get aptitude clean on its update then we'll find out where transmission is |
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| 01:02.20 | goatkid | kdog: it's gonna remove 97mb of packages. |
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| 01:03.03 | kdog | goatkid: how many packages? the mb don't really matter. Any packages you are using? |
| 01:04.23 | goatkid | kdog: none, I think. I do not use mysql. I shut it off. I hate it. |
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| 01:05.17 | kdog | goatkid: then purge away and then run "aptitude upgrade" again. It should exit calmly with nothing pending *hopefully* |
| 01:05.58 | Guest27255 | Isn't apt-get better? |
| 01:06.26 | Guest17398 | hi im trying to install debian 8, i notice "Debian desktop enviroment" is checked then there are a bunch of other desktop options under that, should 1 only be choosing 1 of these? |
| 01:06.52 | goatkid | kdog: i've been doing digital typsetting for twenty years and the *hopefully* is still there. |
| 01:06.58 | somiaj | Guest17398: you can have multiple desktops installed side by side, but I belive only one of those can be selected. |
| 01:07.00 | kdog | Guest17398: someone more sage than I will have to respond to that. I generally use aptitude. |
| 01:07.08 | Guest17398 | or should i be checking "Debian desktop enviroment" then ALSO checking another option like "... GNOME" |
| 01:07.32 | somiaj | Guest17398: if you dont check anything else, you will get gnome. But it gives you the options for other envioremnts if that is what you prefer. |
| 01:07.57 | Guest17398 | okay ill just leave the top one checked :) thanks guys |
| 01:07.58 | somiaj | Guest27255: as for apt-get vs aptitude, depends on what you are doing which is better. Each has its advantages. apt-get is generally faster, aptitude generally has smarter logic. |
| 01:08.34 | somiaj | when doing upgrades from one release to another use the one suggested by the release notes (most suggest apt-get but a few releases suggested aptitude) |
| 01:08.36 | Guest17398 | interesting |
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| 01:09.11 | kdog | goatkid: :-) maybe you should change your nick to oldgoatkid :-) |
| 01:09.24 | ryouma` | there is still one thing, i hear, that one stores in a db that the other does not. held packages or something. |
| 01:09.51 | ryouma` | there is also the apt command. is that as good as either of the other two? |
| 01:12.48 | somiaj | ryouma`: it has made it into jessie? apt is trying to put all the apt-foo commands under a single binary, such as apt-get, apt-cache, etc |
| 01:12.59 | kdog | goatkid: did your packages purge? |
| 01:13.10 | ryouma` | yes |
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| 01:14.29 | goatkid | kdog: yes. All looks okay. |
| 01:14.59 | somiaj | ryouma`: check the description of the package 'apt' and the man page 'man apt', you will see it is just trying to put all teh apt-foo commands togehter as I said. So my guess is it is using the same logic as apt-get in comparaision. |
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| 01:15.29 | somiaj | ryouma`: I don't think it is completely ready as a replacement for apt-get but is getting there. From the man page, "All features of |
| 01:15.45 | somiaj | apt(8) are available in apt-cache(8) and apt-get(8) via APT options. Please prefer using these commands in your scripts. |
| 01:15.54 | goatkid | kdog: thanks for help. I'm gonna try to reboot, see what happens. |
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| 01:18.06 | user4245 | Hello |
| 01:18.11 | polyphagia | hello |
| 01:19.40 | user4245 | ii have a gtx 970, if i install debian, will he handle it? |
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| 01:20.18 | somiaj | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 01:20.19 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.93-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.93-3; sid/non-free: 340.93-6; experimental/non-free: 352.55-2 |
| 01:20.25 | user4245 | i'm really tired, tried manjaro, fedora, opensuse all, with the halp of the communit couldn't made my PC work |
| 01:20.47 | somiaj | user4245: google this nvidia driver version, 340.93, and see if it supports your card. If it doesn't not, there is no easy way to get the non-free driver in jessie at this time. |
| 01:21.29 | Guest17398 | user4245: you could try LM |
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| 01:21.52 | user4245 | nop it's stop at 800 |
| 01:22.02 | user4245 | LM? |
| 01:22.09 | Guest27255 | If I try to make VNC connection from another machine and it fails, where are the logs for this in Jessie? |
| 01:22.10 | Guest17398 | linuxmint 17.2 |
| 01:22.52 | Guest17398 | the driver manager program in it makes it easy to test multiple graphics drivers |
| 01:22.58 | user4245 | does it supporte gtx 970? |
| 01:23.52 | Guest17398 | i'm not 100% sure, but every card i've ever owned has run well with it |
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| 01:24.39 | somiaj | Guest17398: this is a debian support channel, not a mint support channel. Please dont' give advise that is for mint |
| 01:24.54 | Guest17398 | ok sry |
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| 01:25.38 | somiaj | user4245: there is no easy way, but you could get it to work. the two options are 1) try to backport the driver from experimental. or 2) you could install the nvidia binary .run file from nvidia.com and this does work. It isn't fully compadable with debian and dpkg may break it during upgrades. Unforntally due to your hardware you don't have much of a choice for the non-free drive. |
| 01:26.01 | somiaj | user4245: you could try the fee nouveau driver on the side, but that driver I think has trouble with the new security features on nvidia cards. |
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| 01:27.50 | user4245 | this is hard.. all i wanted was a linux sys who works. |
| 01:28.01 | user4245 | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu** |
| 01:28.58 | somiaj | user4245: due to how debian packages software, your card isn't offically supported. If you want to use debian jessie, just use the binary .run file from nvidia and it will work (you may have to fix things after upgrades from apt though). |
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| 01:29.25 | somiaj | user4245: you could try to backport that driver from experiemntal, I can give you instructions. That may work and it will support your card. |
| 01:29.40 | somiaj | user4245: or you pick another distro that has newer hardware support in their release. |
| 01:29.55 | user4245 | like? |
| 01:30.04 | user4245 | fedora, manjaro, opensuse don't work at the moment. |
| 01:31.04 | somiaj | user4245: I'm unsure what other distros will have a current version of the nvidia driver out of the box. Now again you can get this driver right from nvidia.com and get it to work in probabaly any of these distros (including debian). It just isn't the suggested/supported way in debian, but due to your hardware you have little choice. |
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| 02:30.40 | Guest27255 | I can't get realvnc working from my Chromebook or my XP box into Jessie |
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| 02:30.48 | Guest27255 | It worked for Wheezy |
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| 02:31.54 | Guest27255 | I tried all the solutions I could find on GOogle. NO luck. But how to find the logs for what is happening? |
| 02:32.51 | Diitto | For some reason, I can't boot into Debian. One second, let me get the error |
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| 02:53.52 | Diitto | http://i.imgur.com/xWyDwjW.jpg Help? |
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| 02:56.06 | SpookyGitGud | sup Diitto |
| 02:57.57 | Gerowen | Easiest way to search for files within a specific directory. Tried just using Nautilus, browse to the directory and then click the magnifying glass, but it's showing files from the entire system, not just the external drive I'm trying to search in. |
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| 03:44.39 | victim | #debian? |
| 03:44.55 | victim | making EARTH a better place |
| 03:45.00 | victim | cuase like....... |
| 03:45.03 | victim | im victim. |
| 03:45.06 | victim | to female. |
| 03:45.11 | user4245 | wtf |
| 03:45.13 | victim | overkill? |
| 03:45.34 | victim | he/she left |
| 03:45.36 | victim | so fast. |
| 03:45.50 | user4245 | wtf wtf wtf |
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| 03:46.06 | millican | bot? |
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| 03:46.14 | victim | bot? |
| 03:46.17 | victim | definition coming |
| 03:46.21 | user4245 | wtf wtf |
| 03:46.23 | user4245 | wtf wtf wtf |
| 03:46.38 | Diittosword | Even though I installed GRUB as the main bootloader on /dev/sda, the Windows bootloader still runs first unless I press F9 and manually go to GRUB. Help? |
| 03:46.43 | victim | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.57 | victim | is the definition of the word definition |
| 03:47.02 | millican | Is SDA set with the boot flag? |
| 03:47.22 | victim | wtf does that mean? |
| 03:47.28 | Hydroxide | victim: please let's keep #debian on-topic for user support discussions about Debian. other extended discussions belong elsewhere. |
| 03:47.35 | user4245 | wtfwtfwtf |
| 03:47.56 | victim | could you express that in emtionicon? |
| 03:48.01 | victim | cause im left handed? |
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| 03:48.17 | Diitto | millican: I don't know, how do I check? |
| 03:48.42 | millican | Diitto: gparted works. |
| 03:49.28 | millican | On second thought, I'm not sure the installer will install grub to a drive without the flag. |
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| 03:52.42 | millican | So, if you run sudo gparted, you'll see a "boot" under the Flags heading. Sometimes, Windows will have an update that resets the MBR to boot Windows directly. It's pretty annoying. |
| 03:55.19 | Diittosword | millican: I see boot under /dev/sda2 (seems to be mounted to /boot/efi) |
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| 03:57.24 | millican | I assume then that /dev/sda1 is the windows partition? |
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| 03:59.55 | Diittosword | millican: Actually, it's /dev/sda4, and /dev/sda1 is some "WINRE" thing, which I think is the recovery partition for Windows |
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| 04:02.20 | millican | I'm trying to remember how this works, hoping someone else can help too, but I think the MBR contains the instructions for which partition/OS to boot. It may not be directing to where grub is, but to sda4 in your case. I don't remember how to change that back to direct to grub without re-installing, but there is a way. |
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| 04:07.46 | millican | On mine, the boot flag is on the partition with / |
| 04:07.53 | millican | But, I'm not dual-booting. |
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| 04:08.43 | millican | If you can choose at startup, perhaps there's a bios setting to go directly to grub instead of needing to press F9? |
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| 04:22.48 | x86_64 | hey |
| 04:23.33 | x86_64 | what are the optimal system requirements for running debian 8.2? |
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| 04:25.02 | millican | I'm running it on a 14 year old ATM motherboard stuck in a mini-ITX case. It's not too picky. |
| 04:25.34 | x86_64 | ah |
| 04:25.37 | x86_64 | good to hear :) |
| 04:25.52 | x86_64 | i installed dos and i got sick of it |
| 04:26.17 | millican | Is that still an option? I haven't used Dos since Real32 was a thing. |
| 04:28.25 | x86_64 | freedos |
| 04:28.30 | x86_64 | but it's not quite maintained |
| 04:28.37 | x86_64 | and keeps crashing |
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| 04:30.46 | millican | What are you wanting to do with it? There are minimal isos of Debian that let you skip installing a desktop. |
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| 04:40.09 | Tarminquay | This is a technical support channel? |
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| 04:41.09 | saptech | hello all |
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| 04:41.31 | saptech | I have installed a few apps using 'apt-build install app'. Sometimes I run 'apt-build update & apt-build upgrade'. Am I still suppose to do an 'apt-get update & upgrade' also? |
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| 05:05.13 | stew | Guest27255: you'll want at least 128mb of ram and 1 gb of disk or so |
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| 05:06.09 | Guest4786 | meh |
| 05:06.13 | Guest4786 | stew, yeah :p |
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| 05:06.49 | stew | install guide actually says a little less: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s05.html.en |
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| 05:07.45 | x86_64 | duh |
| 05:16.18 | x86_64 | okay, i mounted the iso and found it |
| 05:16.20 | x86_64 | thanks guys |
| 05:16.23 | x86_64 | found python3 and vim |
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| 05:21.19 | SparkMasterTape | is there a rasbpian dedicated channel on freenode? |
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| 05:28.56 | Elec_a | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:31.05 | x86_64 | ftp://ftp.debianclub.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/i386/iso-cd/ | what on earth?? how can there be 80 disks! |
| 05:32.35 | Gerowen | It's the entirety of the standard repositories stored on CD-ROM, :P |
| 05:32.52 | cilkay | You probably want this one: ftp://ftp.debianclub.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 05:33.54 | x86_64 | cilkay, i would have got the netinst if my computer was connected to the 'net' |
| 05:33.55 | x86_64 | :p |
| 05:34.55 | x86_64 | assuming if my other computer was connected to the 'net' then the 'net' can be with the 'inst' |
| 05:35.07 | x86_64 | right now, ideally: i would download all them disks! |
| 05:35.14 | x86_64 | but meh.... haven't got time for that :p |
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| 05:35.39 | cilkay | You do NOT have to download all those ISO images. |
| 05:36.26 | BuzzardBuzz | x86_64: usually you would pick and choose what you want from the collection, you likely wont want it all |
| 05:36.43 | cilkay | And "net" doesn't necessarily mean Internet. You could set up your own packages cache locally. |
| 05:37.03 | swift110 | thats cool |
| 05:37.36 | cilkay | I did that a few years ago when I was using FAI (Fully Automated Installer) to install onto a bunch of machines in a computer lab at a school. |
| 05:37.43 | swift110 | so you could just install dvd 1 and be fine |
| 05:37.53 | swift110 | then add what else you want yourself? |
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| 05:38.29 | cilkay | It's silly to have to download the same packages 50 packages. I just did a net install on one, which primed the local repo cache, and then pointed the rest at my local repo cache. |
| 05:38.57 | BuzzardBuzz | swift110: correct |
| 05:39.00 | cilkay | I forget what that thing I'm calling the "repo cache" was called. I recall trying two different methods. Both were quite easy to set up. |
| 05:39.07 | Gerowen | x86_64: Here's the images straight from Debian, way fewer images here, and you can probably just get away with 1 or 2 of the discs. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/i386/bt-dvd/ |
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| 05:39.21 | cilkay | silly to download the same packages 50 *times*, rather |
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| 05:40.38 | swift110 | thanks BuzzardBuzz |
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| 05:41.54 | BuzzardBuzz | swift110: your welcome, I remember seeing you and x86_64 in topchat also |
| 05:42.30 | swift110 | oh cool |
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| 05:42.51 | x86_64 | eh |
| 05:42.56 | swift110 | if bunsenlabs doesn't work for me I will be doing debian and make it look like openbox |
| 05:42.57 | x86_64 | whats this |
| 05:43.44 | x86_64 | swift110, yeah, if my old computer could read dvds |
| 05:43.45 | x86_64 | duh |
| 05:44.07 | BuzzardBuzz | debian can run openbox desktop manager if you want, i prefer LXDE desktop manager on debian myself |
| 05:44.19 | Gerowen | x86_64: Alright then, here's the CD images, :P http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 05:44.33 | x86_64 | Gerowen, which i am downloading, thanks :p |
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| 05:45.10 | x86_64 | so far can I see that there is enough software for my use in the first CD image, but i will just download a few more incase i need them later |
| 05:45.18 | millican | Openbox works fine on Debian. |
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| 05:48.16 | x86_64 | i remember kicking swift110 from topchat :p |
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| 05:50.04 | swift110 | x86_64, will it accept usb? |
| 05:50.09 | swift110 | x86_64, hush |
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| 05:51.25 | BuzzardBuzz | usb boot install is easiest but older hardware bios likely wont boot from usb |
| 05:51.43 | swift110 | you could perhaps use plop |
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| 05:53.41 | swift110 | https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/full.html BuzzardBuzz |
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| 05:55.14 | BuzzardBuzz | cool, i have not tried that but it sounds good |
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| 05:57.09 | swift110 | awesome |
| 05:57.15 | swift110 | I intend to use it for my T40 |
| 05:57.29 | swift110 | if I can get it alive again |
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| 05:59.13 | cilkay | PXE booting is also pretty easy to set up and even 12 year old machines will support it. |
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| 05:59.33 | cilkay | By supporting it, I mean boot via PXE. |
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| 06:01.06 | swift110 | cool |
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| 06:02.05 | BuzzardBuzz | i have an old dell P4 that i was going to try the PXE boot install with |
| 06:02.51 | swift110 | https://www.dragonbox.de/en/45-pyra |
| 06:04.00 | BuzzardBuzz | cool logo |
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| 06:06.02 | cilkay | I PXE booted Pentium II, III, and IV machines when doing those fully automated installs. I even woke up the machines remotely (WOL - Wake on LAN) and did fresh installs on them, all hands off. PXE is really amazing technology. |
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| 06:31.58 | wbill | hello how do you force install a .deb package |
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| 06:34.49 | Quodpipax | sudo pdkg -i *deb |
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| 07:19.52 | inch | wbill: see dpkg --force-help |
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| 07:28.30 | ClusterFuk | NIGGERS AND WETBACKS AND JEWS, OH MY! |
| 07:28.51 | ClusterFuk | what kind of clusterfuck are you running here? |
| 07:28.58 | ClusterFuk | The Klan does not approve |
| 07:29.03 | ClusterFuk | LOL KU KLUX KLAN |
| 07:29.09 | ClusterFuk | LOL CLUSTERFUCK |
| 07:29.27 | ClusterFuk | !ops What kind of niggerfaggotized.clusterfuck are you running here? |
| 07:29.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: clusterfuk complains about: What kind of niggerfaggotized.clusterfuck are you running here |
| 07:29.37 | ClusterFuk | LOL, BOT |
| 07:29.41 | ClusterFuk | STUPID BOT |
| 07:29.57 | ClusterFuk | USUALLY THE GAY !OPS BOTS DO IT IN PM OR A DEDICATED CHANN |
| 07:30.18 | ClusterFuk | !OPS NIGGERS AND WETBACKS AND JEWS, OH MY! |
| 07:30.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: clusterfuk complains about: NIGGERS AND WETBACKS AND JEWS, OH MY! |
| 07:31.13 | cluelessperson | ClusterFuk, so salty |
| 07:31.57 | ClusterFuk | huh? |
| 07:32.43 | ClusterFuk | !ops cluelessperson is a nigger |
| 07:32.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: clusterfuk complains about: cluelessperson is a nigger |
| 07:32.50 | ClusterFuk | !ops I spam |
| 07:32.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: clusterfuk complains about: I spam |
| 07:33.34 | cluelessperson | ClusterFuk, oh my, such an insult |
| 07:33.37 | cluelessperson | much offended |
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| 07:36.44 | ClusterFuk | what? |
| 07:36.52 | ClusterFuk | !ops spam |
| 07:36.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: clusterfuk complains about: spam |
| 07:36.55 | ClusterFuk | !ops spam |
| 07:37.04 | ClusterFuk | !ops spam is funny |
| 07:37.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: clusterfuk complains about: spam is funny |
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| 07:41.32 | ClusterFuk | you op up and back down? doing nothing? |
| 07:41.34 | ClusterFuk | thanks |
| 07:41.59 | ClusterFuk | now I know there is an op active, I no act like blithering idiot no more |
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| 07:48.36 | Gerowen | Hmmm, for some reason when installing Jessie (8.2) on a desktop, the network card worked fine for the net install, but now doesn't work in the finished product. Tried installing firmware-realtek from a thumb drive because normally that package is required for that card, but still no love. |
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| 07:49.03 | Gerowen | I'm trying to re-do the net install since it's fresh, and have the firmware files on the thumb drive, and it won't pick it up. |
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| 07:52.25 | jelly | Gerowen: did you reboot after installing firmware |
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| 07:54.34 | Gerowen | yep |
| 07:55.03 | Gerowen | I also installed the firmware-linux-nonfree package from the same thumb drive for my graphics card, and it seems to be working fine now with the proper resolution. |
| 07:55.21 | jelly | hm, is it the correct version of the firmware package? |
| 07:55.27 | jelly | ,v firmware-realtek |
| 07:55.28 | judd | Package: firmware-realtek on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 0.44~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20151018-2; stretch/non-free: 20151018-2 |
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| 07:57.35 | Gerowen | Should be, contains the exact firmware file the net installer asked for that I told it to ignore. Basically I couldn't get it to read that the thumb drive was inserted with the firmware files on it, so I told it to continue without it, just to see, and it downloaded and installed everything for installation, but now it's still not working properly in the finished install. When trying to restart the net install to see if I can load the firmware on |
| 07:57.35 | Gerowen | install and redo it, same issue, won't pick up the firmware exists, even though it's the exact file/subfolder name it's asking for, on a FAT32 thumb drive. |
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| 07:58.18 | Gerowen | I even copied the firmware file out into the root of the thumb drive instead of leaving it in the rtl_nic folder just for kicks, still no love. |
| 07:58.44 | jelly | is there other data on that drive? debian-installer had bugs that got it confused if there were unrelated directories with spaces in the name |
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| 07:58.50 | Gerowen | Weird thing is that it has a "Wired" connection listed, but it just sits there saying "Connecting" and eventually just connects to loopback with IPV6. |
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| 07:59.00 | Gerowen | Could be, lemme see. |
| 08:00.08 | Gerowen | Nope, nothing with spaces, but I deleted everything except the rtl_nic folder and will try again. |
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| 08:02.13 | jelly | if you're not against installing anew, it should be easier to use |
| 08:02.16 | jelly | !firmware images |
| 08:02.17 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 08:04.57 | Gerowen | Just restarted the net installer, firmware is on a separate thumb drive with nothing on it but the one firmware folder, and it still doesn't see it. |
| 08:05.26 | Gerowen | Had this problem with my wireless card when I put it on this laptop the other day, but I just hard-wired it, installed the non-free firmware deb and all was well. |
| 08:07.36 | Gerowen | Holy bajeezus I think it just worked. I just had to have the firmware thumb drive inserted before trying to boot the net installer. |
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| 08:08.50 | Gerowen | BOOOO for non-free firmware, but what can you do I guess. I'm downloading the ISO you linked me though just for future reference, thanks, :-) |
| 08:09.27 | jelly | probably less pain that way |
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| 08:17.15 | r0xtedy | guys |
| 08:17.20 | r0xtedy | owncloud client |
| 08:17.24 | r0xtedy | on jessie |
| 08:17.31 | r0xtedy | how can I install working thing? |
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| 08:31.04 | wsky | is there a reliable c/c++ ide for jessie? |
| 08:31.17 | wsky | everything i tried so far suxks beyond thinkable |
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| 08:31.51 | s4ndm4n | wsky: You can try Eclipse for C++. |
| 08:32.05 | wsky | i tried but it's very hard to use |
| 08:32.17 | s4ndm4n | Vim? |
| 08:32.24 | wsky | vim is not an ide |
| 08:32.33 | s4ndm4n | Geany is also nice but requires some effort to setup. |
| 08:32.55 | s4ndm4n | vim can be used as IDE :) |
| 08:33.04 | wsky | if only codeblocks would not be so buggy and could run make with -jX |
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| 08:33.42 | s4ndm4n | So far I have seen this setup: vim + gdb |
| 08:33.54 | wsky | yeah but you're advanced in coding |
| 08:33.56 | wsky | i'm not |
| 08:33.59 | wsky | i;m learning |
| 08:34.14 | wsky | i need an ide |
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| 08:34.26 | s4ndm4n | wsky: I don't do C/C++. I am a novice Python programmer :) |
| 08:34.55 | wsky | well yeah but what i want to do is use a complex gaming engine (which i done before with success but in xcode) |
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| 08:35.37 | s4ndm4n | That's all I can offer without looking up. |
| 08:35.54 | wsky | so far i had most progress with codelite but it started crashing out of the sudden when i run the project |
| 08:37.13 | wsky | i just want to create a working template so i can start doing the work |
| 08:37.20 | wsky | and there is no documentation for that |
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| 09:31.01 | ruied | Hello. I'm using debian streetch and I need to install a .deb package that needs the libqt4-core and libqt4-gui but it seems that debian streetch doesn't have this packages... |
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| 09:32.41 | ruied | I have tried also to install libqtcore4 from via apt-get but it doesn't seem the same... |
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| 09:36.09 | ruied | Is there any way to solve this? The package that I want to install is related to a package that the Portuguese government releases so we can use the citizen smart cart with linux |
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| 09:40.41 | tlolczyk | How can I get the package referred to in this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777205 ? Also how can I fined all bugs associated with that package? |
| 09:40.42 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/777205 in release.debian.org (closed, wontfix): «unblock: refpolicy/2:2.20140421-9»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-02-06; last modified: 2015-04-02. |
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| 09:43.02 | tlolczyk | I hope judd is a bot. |
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| 09:43.48 | planetmaker | it is |
| 09:44.19 | yourname_ | botmon |
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| 09:49.07 | ruied | I have added jessie repositories and made the following: "apt-get -t jessie install libqt4-gui" but debian reports that it has dependencies and not coing to install. How can I install the package and "force" toinstall the dependencies needed? |
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| 09:57.03 | Luncan | Does anyone know a command-line payment app that I could use? |
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| 09:58.18 | Gerowen | Lunca; Like a terminal version of PayPal or something? |
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| 09:58.56 | jfk | hello guys, do you guys know any documentation about pthread tutorials from groundup ? |
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| 10:39.48 | Gargopodus | HI!, I asked the same yesterday but had to sleep so I flew a way. I just changed my desktop board's from an asrock to a gigabyte board, and everything is fine but when debian boots up my usb keyboard shuts down, my usb mouse is working fine. I've already tryed a few different things, all bios usb related options, none solves the problem, "Legacy usb support", "Port 60/64", "IOMMU", "EHCI", "XHCI". Also tryed special kernel parameters "noapic nolapic" doesn |
| 10:39.50 | Gargopodus | 't work. Yesterday in this channel someone suggested me to look in to the dmesg, I've seen some errors but searching for them on google didn't turn any answers that I can recognise |
| 10:40.01 | Gargopodus | sorry for the big message |
| 10:40.24 | Gargopodus | the problem is similar to the one in this post: |
| 10:40.25 | Gargopodus | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116234/usb-keyboard-doesnt-work-with-debian-installer |
| 10:41.26 | Gargopodus | does somebody here knows what should I do to get my keyboard to work as it did with the previous board? |
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| 10:42.49 | Gargopodus | I'm using debian jessie kernel 3.16.0 |
| 10:44.03 | tlolczyk | Gargopodus, two questions. Did you try the keyboard in a different port? Did you do a lsusb? |
| 10:44.15 | Gargopodus | no, no |
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| 10:44.42 | Gargopodus | the keyboard works on the bios and on grub, so I supossed it was fine |
| 10:44.57 | Gargopodus | I'll try another port |
| 10:44.59 | tlolczyk | Do you also try unplugging and plugging in the keyboard? |
| 10:45.05 | Gargopodus | yes |
| 10:45.12 | Gargopodus | didn't work |
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| 10:45.45 | Gargopodus | uuuuu |
| 10:45.48 | little | Hey |
| 10:45.53 | little | Can someone help? |
| 10:45.56 | Gargopodus | changing the port made it work!! |
| 10:46.02 | Gargopodus | wonderful! |
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| 10:47.07 | Gargopodus | thank you tlolczyk |
| 10:47.42 | Gargopodus | so much research! and so simple solution! |
| 10:47.53 | Gargopodus | :P |
| 10:49.49 | little | I need help getting dcc to work |
| 10:49.55 | little | both for myself and a bot |
| 10:50.02 | little | we're on the same vps though |
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| 12:07.07 | xreal | I've just backported libboost v1.58 from sid to jessie. Why does it have such stupid dependency versions? It worked with dependencies from Jessie without a problem... I think, the maintainers don't actually have a clue, what they're doing. |
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| 12:12.17 | Smither | smither |
| 12:13.48 | Smither | hey, I'm trying to set up an ircd + hybserv server on my debian system, byt hybserv is not connecting. And when i look at the logs they're basically useless, http://pastebin.com/04MEAc5A . I have googled everything i can think of and have tripple checked the configs for both ircd and hybserv, both services are running fine, all the necessary ports are open (confirmed by netstat). I have no idea what else to check. or |
| 12:13.48 | Smither | what the problem could even be. Any help please? |
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| 12:18.26 | Brigo | Smither, nestat will not tell you if a por is closed, it will tell you if a daemon is listening in a port. |
| 12:19.12 | Brigo | Smither, i don't know what are you trying to do, i have never used hyberv or ircd, but i would try to enable verbose/debug mode |
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| 12:19.45 | Smither | Brigo: i am using ufw and i have the port allowed on tcp so i don't think this is the problem. I couldn't find any verbose/debug mode in the configs |
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| 12:21.17 | Brigo | Smither, it's abot. Try then strace. |
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| 12:25.16 | Smither | okay will do thanks |
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| 13:06.22 | cnnx | what is a good internet radio station music streamer for debian? |
| 13:08.03 | Penix | cnnx: pretty much anything. vlc, rhythmbox, audacious... |
| 13:08.20 | cnnx | am i better off getting a windows dedidcated server with shoutcast instead? |
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| 13:08.47 | Penix | do you really think we're going to recommend that in #debian? |
| 13:09.01 | cnnx | no just saying shoutcast is not supported on linux |
| 13:09.16 | padxni | it is supported |
| 13:09.19 | Penix | icecast? |
| 13:09.21 | cnnx | oh ok |
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| 13:09.25 | cnnx | i'll check it out |
| 13:09.32 | cnnx | i thought i tried apt-get install icecast |
| 13:09.49 | zykotick9 | ,v icecast2 |
| 13:10.07 | judd | Package: icecast2 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.3.2-6; wheezy: 2.3.2-9+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2.4.0-1.1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 2.4.0-1.1+deb8u1; jessie: 2.4.0-1.1+deb8u1; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 2.4.2-1~bpo7+11; stretch: 2.4.2-1; sid: 2.4.2-1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.3.3kh7-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.3.3kh11-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.4.0kh3-dmo1 |
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| 13:12.23 | padxni | cnnx, http://download.nullsoft.com/shoutcast/tools/ |
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| 13:15.08 | Cerealkill3r | Hey guys,how can i change the close/minimize/maximize buttons look? |
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| 13:19.58 | wmp | hello, i have source code with bootstrap.sh (autconfig). Is posibel to simple create package from this? |
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| 13:50.12 | m3nda | Hi, need help. I've installed libpam_usb and does work, but the login screen do not allow me to login. I have enter from tty1 with a new X server intance. |
| 13:50.24 | m3nda | Can anyone tell me where in the logs can i found what's wrong? |
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| 13:51.44 | Cerealkill3r | hey guys,how can i change my minimize/maximize/close buttons look on debian 8? |
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| 13:51.57 | m3nda | Cerealkill3r, look in themes |
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| 13:52.34 | Cerealkill3r | m3nda, I was looking in there,should i replace them with what type i want under the same name? |
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| 13:54.52 | m3nda | has gone? |
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| 14:24.43 | c0fe | what's the command to get dpkg to give information on how to install linux onto a usb drive on windows? |
| 14:25.07 | abrotman | what? |
| 14:25.20 | abrotman | you mean, how to setup the usb drive for installation from Windows? |
| 14:25.26 | abrotman | dpkg: tell c0fe about win32diskimager |
| 14:25.28 | c0fe | abrotman: yes |
| 14:25.30 | c0fe | thanks |
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| 14:30.25 | m3nda | abrotman, you seem advanced user. Maybe u can point me to a good direction |
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| 14:31.04 | m3nda | abrotman, i've install libpam usb, and does work, but i cannot login from lightdm. Right now im on tty1 |
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| 14:31.21 | abrotman | so uninstall it? |
| 14:31.31 | m3nda | abrotman, where can i look to know what's causing the problem? |
| 14:31.56 | abrotman | "touch /etc/pam_debug" |
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| 14:32.30 | abrotman | you may need to enable that logging as well in whatever syslog package you use |
| 14:32.43 | wsky | is anyone here familiar with building realvnc on jessie? |
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| 14:32.53 | wsky | not real |
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| 14:32.58 | wsky | Tigervnc* |
| 14:33.09 | wsky | misstype |
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| 14:40.42 | zammy | hello people |
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| 14:41.30 | zammy | I am using debian 8 |
| 14:41.44 | zammy | but it seems having old stuff |
| 14:41.48 | zammy | old packages |
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| 14:42.32 | teraflops | zammy: perhaps debian is not what you want |
| 14:42.39 | zammy | LOL |
| 14:42.47 | teraflops | im not kiddin' |
| 14:42.57 | zammy | :O |
| 14:43.35 | xand | debian is for stability |
| 14:43.49 | zammy | I got it |
| 14:44.08 | zammy | well it is indeed |
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| 14:44.21 | wsky | nvm got it sorted out |
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| 14:52.27 | wacek | hi |
| 14:52.37 | wacek | Debian 7.9 after turning the grub 50 seconds to the desktop if the a lot of. |
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| 14:53.27 | polyphagia | wacek: upgrade to jessie |
| 14:53.35 | polyphagia | it uses systemd which improves boot time |
| 14:55.03 | wacek | systemd is criticized, but for my version if it is a normal start-up time |
| 14:55.17 | wacek | ? |
| 14:55.50 | polyphagia | well wacek debian 8 is the latest stable release regardless |
| 14:55.56 | polyphagia | and it depends |
| 14:56.23 | polyphagia | it depends on how many services you have running, which desktop you're using, what sort of harddrive and CPU you have |
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| 14:56.54 | polyphagia | my core i5 with SSD, Startup finished in 1.149s (kernel) + 1.070s (userspace) = 2.220s whereas my netbook, Startup finished in 3.832s (kernel) + 19.459s (userspace) = 23.292s |
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| 14:59.35 | wacek | hard disk, processor AMD Phenom X4 955 |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | i don't use sysvinit anymore and as far as i'm concerned it's deprecated |
| 14:59.35 | CarlGel | Hi, I'm trying to get oss4-dev:i386, apt-get tells me it is unable to locate the package. |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | but if you're using systemd you can use `$ systemd-anaylze blame` to see what's taking time |
| 14:59.35 | CarlGel | I'm seeing on packages.debian.org that it's available. |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | sorry, systemd-analyze |
| 14:59.35 | CarlGel | but apt-get seems to be unable to locate it? |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | CarlGel: why do you need the i386 version? |
| 14:59.35 | CarlGel | polyphagia: trying to build wine-git:i386 |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | do you have multi arch enabled? |
| 14:59.35 | CarlGel | Yes |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | dev files don't have arch CarlGel |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | they're independant |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | independent* |
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| 14:59.35 | CarlGel | noted |
| 14:59.35 | polyphagia | well at least this one doesn't |
| 14:59.48 | CarlGel | well, I have oss4-dev installed, and apt-get is still throwing the error |
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| 15:00.09 | CarlGel | as well as libxml-simple-perl |
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| 15:00.23 | CarlGel | trying to build on stretch |
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| 15:01.28 | thefreakjoe | hey |
| 15:01.41 | wacek | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.45 | CarlGel | this is a fresh install as well, polyphagia |
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| 15:02.10 | thefreakjoe | Any change to install debian from windows clicking next next next...... ? i mean a app.exe that make me install linux without booting it from pen cd or dvd |
| 15:02.26 | thefreakjoe | only ubunto atm right ? |
| 15:02.49 | polyphagia | wacek: just upgrade everything normally |
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| 15:03.10 | thefreakjoe | mmmmmm |
| 15:03.36 | polyphagia | CarlGel: just apt-get install oss4-dev isn't working? |
| 15:03.46 | polyphagia | what is it saying? |
| 15:03.50 | polyphagia | yeah thefreakjoe |
| 15:04.05 | thefreakjoe | only ubunto |
| 15:04.08 | thefreakjoe | polyphagia, ? |
| 15:04.17 | wacek | or to remove first of all the packages to the core system and updating of distribution and then INSTALLED environment and everything before doing this it will be less niepoczebnuch packages. |
| 15:04.21 | polyphagia | you want to install ubuntu to use within windows thefreakjoe ? |
| 15:04.28 | polyphagia | if you're talking about ubuntu go to #ubuntu |
| 15:04.29 | thefreakjoe | i want debian |
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| 15:04.32 | polyphagia | oh ok |
| 15:04.33 | thefreakjoe | with windows |
| 15:04.40 | polyphagia | well you can run it in a virtual machine |
| 15:04.46 | thefreakjoe | dual boot |
| 15:04.53 | polyphagia | use rufus |
| 15:05.00 | thefreakjoe | tsbro |
| 15:05.02 | polyphagia | to burn the ISO to the USB stick |
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| 15:05.17 | wacek | polyphagia: but I'm afraid that install unnecessary packages |
| 15:05.28 | CarlGel | one moment, making a paste |
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| 16:11.52 | padxni | wacek, because windows stores garbage permanently |
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| 16:12.29 | wyre | wacek, above all in system regkeys |
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| 16:14.13 | somiaj | wacek: not really a debian question. My nieve understanding is because windows has terrible package management. Each piece of software tries to do 'its own thing' and has permisions to do so, so over time you get conflicting options or different software fighting for userfriendleness |
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| 16:14.46 | somiaj | while debian (provided you only use offical debian packages) puts a lot of tiem and effort to ensuring the packages play nicely together. |
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| 16:15.56 | padxni | also, in debian, there is only place for logs, /var/logs and only place for temporary files /tmp, while in windows every piece of software can choose their own path within system directories |
| 16:16.16 | wyre | there is so many reasons ... xD |
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| 16:16.58 | Nicop06 | Hello |
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| 16:17.55 | Nicop06 | What would you recommand to monitor/secure a small NAS? I already configured netfilter, installed sshguard and configured smartd with email alerts. |
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| 16:18.32 | somiaj | wyre: read the debian new matainers guide and debian policy docs. That is a big reason. Software in debian has to meat specific policy standards. Since microsfot dosen't control the distribution of software people use there is no enforcment on standards and people do what they want. |
| 16:18.45 | Nicop06 | I am used logwatch but I find it not that useful as it always sends email even if everythin is OK |
| 16:18.59 | Nicop06 | s/used/used to/ |
| 16:19.38 | wacek | it is simply absurd to microsoft powerful corporation having miliardydolarów she could not cope with this problem and Debian developers they do quite well. |
| 16:19.42 | wyre | somiaj, obviously, the use of package managers is a good way to get software ;) |
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| 16:23.30 | somiaj | wyre: I dissagree with that. people can hose their systems just fine with apt, it is about the centro repo of packages and the policy that governs them. This is why mixing debian with other distros is bad juju, not only are versions and issue, but the policy is different and that can cause more subtle issues after the packages are installed. |
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| 16:24.47 | jil | I don't see any instruction to remove a program installed with make ; make install. Is there a standard procedure ? |
| 16:25.12 | wyre | somiaj, but always will be better than install the software how each user wants... (the use of a package manager) |
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| 16:25.58 | wyre | jil, you should have packaged it in a deb to manage with apt |
| 16:26.05 | wyre | before install it |
| 16:26.07 | wyre | (i think xD) |
| 16:26.30 | jil | no it's not there. a dpkg -l | grep packagename give me nothing |
| 16:26.51 | wyre | jil, yes, because you have installed it with make, and make install |
| 16:27.13 | wyre | you should package it in a .deb before install it |
| 16:27.21 | wyre | (I think, I repeat xD) |
| 16:27.32 | wyre | (Im not fully sure xD) |
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| 16:27.48 | somiaj | though it is nice to make your own .deb's sometimes it isn't needed. make install will put things in /usr/local (or should be) and will live just fine with stuff from debian. |
| 16:29.06 | somiaj | If you want to manage source installed debian provides stow, check-install and maybe other software for manging source installs in /usr/local (which makes things cleaner than just using make install) and debian also provides equivs so you can make equivlent packages to let dpkg know you have software installed outisde of the debian packages (if needed for dependencies) |
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| 16:29.32 | wyre | somiaj, but ... I think that always would be better build a .deb, to manage it with package manager, aint it? |
| 16:30.46 | somiaj | wyre: depends. In debian source packages lots of times generate multiple packages seperating libaries apart from the binaires and creating a dependency structure that lives with debian packages. This may not be worth the time for someone who is comfortable with source packages already. |
| 16:30.49 | CptJackSparrow | @jil: when I want to uninstall/remove a program that's installed with make; make install I just rm the files generated by the make statements |
| 16:31.41 | somiaj | wyre: so though it would be nice to have a .deb, debian works just fine with third party source installs and the advantages you may get from generating a .deb is not worth the time/energy for that paticular use case (hence why debian provides a lot of tools to manage source packages in /usr/local |
| 16:32.09 | somiaj | CptJackSparrow: some source packages if you keep them around have a 'make uninstall', but you have to keep the source around. |
| 16:32.37 | somiaj | CptJackSparrow: make install sometimes does more than just copy files into their correct location, but yes for the most part that is all you have to do, is remove (or undo what the make install did). |
| 16:32.59 | somiaj | CptJackSparrow: the method I was suggesting was use stow or check-install (these software will manage source installs and make uninstalling a lot easier) |
| 16:33.02 | somiaj | !stow |
| 16:33.03 | dpkg | i guess stow is a nifty program used to manage a /usr/local/ hierarchy. It keeps all the programs separate, so you can install and remove them without playing the "which program does that file belong to" game; ask me about <stow usage>. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow . See also <usrlocal>, <uupdate>. |
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| 16:48.10 | blah- | happy Halloween :) |
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| 16:48.29 | camag27 | How does one setup touchscreen in Debian? I'm sitting on a Lenovo Yoga.. |
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| 16:57.30 | m4rcu5 | hallowhat? :) |
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| 16:58.00 | evilx | WEEN |
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| 16:58.02 | evilx | :D |
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| 17:28.52 | xreal | I'm trying to build boost 1.59 (no backporting, no DEB) on my Debian Jessie. libicu-dev is installed, but bootstrap.sh can't find the lib ... other tools are using this lib. What's wrong here? |
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| 17:30.15 | xreal | Do I need LDFLAGS ? |
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| 17:32.19 | xreal | Seems like Debian icu-packages are kind of broken. it's spread all around the /usr-directory in different namespaces |
| 17:32.39 | xreal | sometimes it's called "ICU", sometimes it's "unicode" |
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| 17:35.47 | LordShadowWing | I'm trying to install a package but it requires lib32asound2 and ia32-libs |
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| 17:36.05 | LordShadowWing | and they don't exist in the debian Jessie reops |
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| 17:40.44 | centrx | LordShadowWing, What package are you trying to install? Why aren't you installing from the Debian repos? |
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| 17:41.21 | LordShadowWing | Im trying to install teamviewer_10.0.46203_amd64.deb |
| 17:41.29 | centrx | oh boy |
| 17:41.46 | centrx | LordShadowWing, Is there a reason you can't use VNC or remote X? |
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| 17:42.20 | LordShadowWing | Windows Customers |
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| 17:42.41 | centrx | You can get VNC for Windows too |
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| 17:42.54 | centrx | But anyway, jessie uses multiarch, not ia32libs |
| 17:42.57 | centrx | !multiarch |
| 17:42.57 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
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| 17:45.02 | LordShadowWing | So i would have to install oldstable for the package? |
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| 17:46.16 | centrx | LordShadowWing, Well I'm surprised that TeamViewer wouldn't have a package for the latest Debian release, it's been out for half a year |
| 17:46.35 | LordShadowWing | https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx |
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| 17:49.24 | centrx | LordShadowWing, So you already set up multiarch? |
| 17:49.24 | LordShadowWing | centrx, |
| 17:49.28 | LordShadowWing | centrx, http://paste.debian.net/319004/ |
| 17:49.50 | LordShadowWing | got those installed |
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| 17:50.46 | centrx | LordShadowWing, one of them must be missing right? You just have to install the dependencies yourself with apt-get, because you're installing it with dpkg -i |
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| 17:55.10 | LordShadowWing | centrx, and it probably wants the i386 versions |
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| 17:55.26 | centrx | LordShadowWing, apt-get install libc6:i386 |
| 17:55.26 | AdorableGNU | Is deb-multimedia.org down for everyone? |
| 17:55.42 | AdorableGNU | I told you that you needed multilib, LordShadowWing |
| 17:55.45 | AdorableGNU | lol |
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| 17:58.36 | LordShadowWing | Had to install 63 packages to install that |
| 17:58.55 | AdorableGNU | deb-multimedia.org is down |
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| 17:59.16 | towo` | AdorableGNU, use a mirror |
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| 18:02.40 | jhutchins | AdorableGNU: Looks like it's down: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/deb-multimedia.org |
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| 18:11.21 | m3nda | abrotman, i think i enabled debug, following options file, but lightdm refuses to login using libpam-usb |
| 18:11.36 | m3nda | abrotman, finally i've check gdm3 instead and worked out of the box |
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| 18:33.40 | LordShadowWing | I need a deb-multimedia mirror |
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| 19:14.58 | relipse | why is "su jim" hanging |
| 19:15.11 | relipse | inside of screen |
| 19:15.15 | abrotman | did you mess with PAM? |
| 19:15.19 | relipse | ? |
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| 19:17.54 | Guest12766 | How come ss | grep "5900" and ss | grep "5901" brings a blank? |
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| 19:18.24 | Guest12766 | Shouldn't VNC server be on that port? |
| 19:18.51 | teraflops | relipse: take a look at /var/log/auth.log then |
| 19:19.21 | towo` | Guest12766, if there is a vnc server running, listening on that port, yes |
| 19:19.35 | xand | Guest12766: not if you didn't install a vnc server |
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| 19:20.26 | Guest12766 | I installed it. I just can't get the damn thing to work. |
| 19:20.50 | Guest12766 | I just upgraded to jessie and the VNC server no longer works. |
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| 19:23.32 | Guest12766 | dpkg -l | grep vino |
| 19:23.32 | Guest12766 | ii vino dpkg -l | grep vino |
| 19:23.32 | Guest12766 | ii vino 3.14.0-2+b1 amd64 VNC server for GNOME |
| 19:23.32 | Guest12766 | 3.14.0-2+b1 amd64 VNC server for GNOME |
| 19:23.32 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep vino |
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| 19:23.59 | relipse | ok su jim finally wokred |
| 19:24.25 | relipse | but git pull is taking forever |
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| 19:26.18 | Guest12766 | How does one use flood? |
| 19:27.22 | Guest12766 | Anyone here know how to get vino working? |
| 19:28.06 | Guest12766 | vino shows no results on search but it is installed |
| 19:29.25 | Guest12766 | How come network tools has netstat? |
| 19:29.34 | Guest12766 | Isnt that one obselete? |
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| 19:35.04 | centrx | Guest12766, netstat is still going strong |
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| 19:35.55 | Guest12766 | I thought it was now iproute2 |
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| 19:36.39 | Guest12766 | ss and all that |
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| 19:39.11 | centrx | Guest12766, oh I guess. I don't think netstat will ever actually be removed |
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| 19:41.23 | teraflops | net-tools deprecation is a fact, as many distros are deprecating it |
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| 19:42.58 | centrx | What an outrage! |
| 19:43.26 | teraflops | centrx: do not blame me :P time flies |
| 19:44.11 | centrx | Just you watch, iproute2 and systemd are going to crash the Internet and everyone is going to go back to the tried and true standards |
| 19:44.30 | abrotman | ... |
| 19:44.33 | teraflops | centrx: sure |
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| 20:00.39 | beknowly|desk | xinput |
| 20:01.03 | beknowly|desk | log to a file and use a script to parse the file |
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| 20:03.02 | beknowly|desk | xinput -xi2 --root >> keylog |
| 20:03.06 | beknowly|desk | will do what you want |
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| 20:09.41 | bedo | Guest12766: IIRC you need to use vino-preferences to enable it |
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| 20:10.11 | theluckymike | . |
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| 21:00.06 | LordShadowWing | Fatal error: Call to a member function read() on boolean in /var/www/gnu-social/lib/nickname.php on line 182 |
| 21:00.16 | LordShadowWing | Having an issue getting a gnusocial instance working http://paste.debian.net/319033/ |
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| 21:09.14 | socomm | LordShadowWing: I don't think thats Debian specific. |
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| 21:15.34 | Guest12766 | IIRC you need to use vino-preferences to enable it |
| 21:15.45 | Guest12766 | How? |
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| 21:16.29 | Guest12766 | I have screen sharing enabled. I cannot find the old screen for vino that was in wheezy. |
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| 21:17.55 | Guest12766 | searching for vino draws a blank |
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| 21:22.02 | laidback_01 | wow, debian 8.2 is the first linux ever that has successfully installed on my HP Envy with UEFI enabled. I've no clear understanding of why UEFI is better, but everything is headed that way I guess. My laptop can do CSM/Bios compatibility, which is how it's been running before. |
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| 21:23.58 | PurpleDude | Chanlogs |
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| 21:24.43 | laidback_01 | Now, I'm mostly a FreeBSD guy, but this is a laptop and it always has linux on it (typically Mint). Recent addition to the hardware is a 256G SSD in addition to the 1Tb HD. My boot drive is always the 1Tb drive. I'm thinking about migrating everything in /usr over to the SSD. So, my question: is there something else that should be done instead with a 1Tb HDD and 256G SSD ? |
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| 21:25.46 | Guest12766 | Does vino-preferences need to be started from the command line? |
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| 21:27.03 | somiaj | laidback_01: we don't really support linux mint here, are you planing on running debian or just looking for general linux support? ##linux can be good for that. |
| 21:28.09 | laidback_01 | oh, no.... I'm running debian on it now, was just saying, mint is what I typically put on 'desktop' type machines, |
| 21:28.42 | somiaj | laidback_01: I'm unsure exactly what you want to put on the ssd, on my ssd which is that size I put everything except /home on it |
| 21:28.43 | laidback_01 | I'm going to be using debian, compiling enlightenment on it for a DE - it's got only a 15" screen and I want to be pretty lean. |
| 21:28.56 | frostschutz | laidback_01, what's the SSD there for? usually, / and /home and swap (if you need it) should be on SSD |
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| 21:29.10 | laidback_01 | yeah, I can't boot from the SSD on this machine |
| 21:29.30 | laidback_01 | good idea on swap, I'll put that in there for sure. |
| 21:29.32 | frostschutz | you can put /boot elsewhere |
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| 21:29.56 | somiaj | laidback_01: are you sure? You may just need to have grub in the mbr of the other machine, but grub might be able to use a /boot on the ssd (if you want to speed up boot times) |
| 21:30.01 | laidback_01 | well, to be fair, I've never installed UEFI before, so I just let the installer do it. |
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| 21:30.24 | metallic | I have a question about the command «lsb_release», the latter paragraph of its manual page; what does it mean by "the installation is of the earliest distribution which is still being used by apt" |
| 21:30.38 | somiaj | laidback_01: you can probabaly put boot anywhere you want it, and you can even put the efi partition on the ssd (At least on my setup is how I do it). |
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| 21:30.51 | laidback_01 | never successfully installed UEFI before. so I chose it to be all one drive... it separated out EFI, swap and / |
| 21:30.52 | metallic | can someone tell me what does that exactly mean? :) |
| 21:31.18 | somiaj | laidback_01: correct, that is because boot info is put in EFI partition instead of the MBR which makes things a bit easier. |
| 21:32.00 | laidback_01 | wait, wait, so ... does that mean ANY drive can be used? as in, I don't need to choose which drive is the boot drive, the UEFI just searches for EFI partitions and boots that? |
| 21:32.26 | laidback_01 | if so, I'll rebuild this ;) put /home on the 1Tb drive and everything else on the ssd |
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| 21:33.10 | somiaj | metallic: it is saying if you mix packages from mutiple debian derivatives or versions it uses the earliest repo still being used by apt to determien this. |
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| 21:33.38 | somiaj | metallic: hopefully you aren't mixign distributions/versions as that can lead to trouble. Also debian has droped support for lsb_release and is only implimenting a very minimial version of it. |
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| 21:34.19 | metallic | mmmm... ok, now I understand it :) |
| 21:34.26 | metallic | thanks a lot somiaj :) |
| 21:34.54 | metallic | in fact I only use packages from the main repo of jessie version :) |
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| 21:35.01 | somiaj | laidback_01: there are two thigns I would consider. Things you want to speed up, and life of the drive (though this is less and less importnat). Either put the things that get used the most on the drive such as the binaries and home (since lots of desktop life is reading/writing stuff from /home) |
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| 21:35.32 | somiaj | laidback_01: the other is put things there that won't have lots of writing to them, this way after your install/cofniguration is done you are mostly just reading off the ssd, in this case put everytying except /home and /var there. |
| 21:36.17 | somiaj | laidback_01: but I belive ssd's are way better than they originally were at dealing with lots of writes to them and their longevity. |
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| 21:43.01 | frostschutz | laidback_01, if you want to get the most out of your SSD, use the SSD as primary drive for everything, and put the HDD as /home/user/HDD/ to put the slow, clunky stuff in |
| 21:43.42 | frostschutz | /home entirely on HDD will slow you down |
| 21:43.43 | laidback_01 | that's exactly what's been done. I'll see now if I built it right after the reboot. |
| 21:44.10 | laidback_01 | oh... hmm. well, to be fair, I was quite happy with the machine before I had the SSD. |
| 21:44.29 | socomm | laidback_01: I generally put my SSD as the main storage, and HDD as a data mount - multimedia files and such. |
| 21:45.09 | socomm | laidback_01: Don't forget to cron fstrim on your SSD. |
| 21:45.24 | somiaj | that is my setup too, ssd is everythign except /home (I think mount a partition fromt he ssd as /home/mainuser) and then put all my data in /home/video, /home/docs, etc |
| 21:45.30 | frostschutz | laidback_01, it's a 256G SSD, if you only put / on it you'll have like 90% free space and free space on SSD is about as useful as free ram |
| 21:46.07 | somiaj | so basically I put / on the ssd, and then put multimedia or bigger stuff on the tradional hd |
| 21:47.14 | laidback_01 | ok, well, it's a laptop. my freebsd server has 18Tb or so of NFS storage for me, so I don't really need anything for media. however, it will be nice to have a few ISOs and VMs and such. good idea, I'll rework this to make use of that. |
| 21:48.03 | socomm | I'd be curious to find out if HDD eat up more battery than SSDs. |
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| 21:48.25 | somiaj | laidback_01: then I'd just run completely off the ssd see how you like it, and mount your HDD somewhere for additional storage if needed |
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| 21:49.07 | socomm | laidback_01: If you just want extra storage you could always buy a USB stick. |
| 21:49.11 | laidback_01 | yeah, will try that and see if it'll boot or not. |
| 21:49.12 | somiaj | laidback_01: note this will speed up everything on the system in terms of retrival times of data that you use. Since you may have a lot of writes to the ssd it may give it a lower life, but I think this is less and a less of an issue with modern ssd's. |
| 21:49.34 | socomm | They've some small profile USBs now which are pretty good. |
| 21:49.42 | laidback_01 | it's a laptop. I have a HUGE preference for a good desktop, laptop is just kind of... you know, fun to have. |
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| 21:52.47 | laidback_01 | heh, I can put Windows VMs on the HDD, and then show people how slow windows is compared to the linux host. Terrible, I know, but it'll be funny if it works. |
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| 21:53.14 | laidback_01 | no one but me and wife will likely even ever see this machine... so that's just a fun daydream. |
| 21:53.39 | laidback_01 | hey, with regard to UEFI, I turned off "secure boot" I'm thinking that needs to stay off, right? |
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| 21:53.48 | somiaj | I always get comments on how fast my laptop I use for work is when working with people, they always ask what browser goes so fast, and I laugh because my laptop is not that fast. |
| 21:53.59 | somiaj | laidback_01: correct, debian does not support secure boot |
| 21:55.13 | laidback_01 | yeah, my old toshiba laptop - with a 4:3 screeen -that's how old it is, 3G ram, debian something with LXDE on it... that thing is still fast! I get a chuckle out of it, it's a nice little machine, but not compared to the i7 laptop. |
| 21:55.58 | laidback_01 | still, same thing - even when I take the Toshiba out, AMD Athlon dualcore, people say, wow, that's a fast little machine! but the SSD for it made a heck of a difference. |
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| 21:56.14 | somiaj | yea it was a toshiba, think it had a quad core amd so it wasn't to bad, but it finally blew a gastic (I think I just need to reset the cmos but it won't let me do that without ripping the whole thing apart) |
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| 22:05.38 | Kite | Bit of a newby question but still: How can I possibly find out which path I'm in? |
| 22:05.44 | Kite | ls wont work |
| 22:05.49 | Kite | got tree, wont work |
| 22:05.59 | Kite | Those only show the current directory contents |
| 22:06.10 | Kite | I'd like to know what my main disk looks like |
| 22:06.16 | abrotman | Kite: pwd |
| 22:06.24 | Kite | thanks! |
| 22:06.29 | Kite | That did it |
| 22:10.08 | Kite | Is it impossible to go to root for a super-user? cd won't work |
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| 22:11.15 | abrotman | sounds like you did sometihng wrong |
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| 22:14.39 | Kite | I tried: cd /root | sudo cd /root |
| 22:14.55 | Kite | what worked was su to root user and then cd /root |
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| 22:32.07 | laidback_01 | meh... swiching back to Legacy BIOS booting. this UEFI on the Hp laptop I have is super unreliable. I've had it boot correctly twice now. other than that, it tells me it can't find a useful image. so ... I give. going back to bios. |
| 22:32.58 | somiaj | Hmm, I have liked efi boot. (: |
| 22:33.38 | laidback_01 | I'm seeing a few other people with HP Envy machines having issues... so that's likely a common thing for this make/model. |
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| 22:39.40 | Lionyx | when you format flashdrives, what filesystem do you use? |
| 22:40.07 | abrotman | that's up to you |
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| 22:41.07 | Lionyx | which* |
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| 22:41.29 | kevtucker | hello, urgent help need from anyone who knows about icecast server ? I'm been flooded with listeners |
| 22:41.29 | Lionyx | I mean, ext2 or ext3-4 without journaling? |
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| 22:42.15 | abrotman | kevtucker: turn it off .. |
| 22:42.22 | laidback_01 | you can use vFat to keep compatiability |
| 22:43.02 | laidback_01 | kevtucker: start playing ads... you'll lose tons of listeners that way. |
| 22:43.42 | laidback_01 | you can always put up a firewall and limit connectivity by geolocation |
| 22:43.47 | kevtucker | there is 1 ip address that is flooding the server on purpose and i block the ip using iptables |
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| 22:44.58 | laidback_01 | okay, cool. problem solved. you could always setup another box as a firewall, and then control where the conections go with the firewall. |
| 22:45.08 | laidback_01 | or you could setup a load balancer to handle that |
| 22:45.12 | laidback_01 | etc. |
| 22:45.19 | laidback_01 | but your solution is probably going to work just fine. |
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| 22:49.48 | mcon | aton: unfortunately Your suggestion did *not* work. |
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| 22:50.45 | Lionyx | I can't find mkfs.reiserfs4 on Debian, do I have to install it apart? |
| 22:50.46 | mcon | aton: I am now connected using another laptop |
| 22:50.53 | Guest12766 | $ ss | grep "5901" | grep "5900" $ ss | grep "5901" |
| 22:51.27 | Guest12766 | I get blanks on these commands but system monitor says vino-server is running. |
| 22:52.07 | Guest12766 | Doesn't vino-server run on these ports? |
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| 22:53.02 | bezaban | Guest12766: try with sudo :) |
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| 22:54.37 | Guest12766 | ss -l works |
| 22:54.37 | mcon | aton`: Error says "no screens found" :( |
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| 22:59.41 | Aorious | I just need a single package from the experimental repo. If I add experimental to my apt sources list, should I remove it as soon as I finish installing the package I need. Would using 'Mark All Upgrades' in Synaptic Package Manager upgrade every package on my system to 'experimental'? |
| 23:00.15 | LordMux | hey all, how do you mark bug as unreproducible, I dont seem to find exact message to send |
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| 23:17.46 | Rubafix | Hello |
| 23:19.30 | Rubafix | Could anyone recommend a good book on debian? |
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| 23:24.09 | bazhang | !ops | syeujsieskso |
| 23:24.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | syeujsieskso |
| 23:24.54 | laidback_01 | Rubafix: there are reasonable amounts of documentation on the website: https://www.debian.org/doc/ however, I can understand the desire for a book. I've never used one specific to debian. |
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| 23:26.08 | abrotman | wtf .. |
| 23:26.33 | bazhang | sorry abrotman , just before he got klined |
| 23:26.37 | abrotman | It's okay .. |
| 23:26.43 | abrotman | I'm more confused why anyone would do that .. |
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| 23:28.16 | Rubafix | I'm starting on linux, and I am completly overwhelmed by all the thing I have to learn or re-learn to use my system. And online resources as well as packages are inconsistent, so I'm looking ofr an in depth and consistent source of information |
| 23:29.05 | laidback_01 | well Greece is a pretty politically charged country in a rather bad state right now. I assume to criticize rich people could get you into serious trouble over there - which is why he is desperately trying to "clear his name"... with spam. |
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| 23:30.17 | lord_rob | anyway it's OT |
| 23:32.38 | lord_rob | Rubafix: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_6?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=debian&sprefix=debian%2Caps%2C283 |
| 23:33.31 | Rubafix | lord_rob: Which one? |
| 23:33.53 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Rubafix about grounding |
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| 23:34.06 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Rubafix about debian-handbook |
| 23:34.51 | Rubafix | abrotman: He doesn't seem to obey you ;) |
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| 23:35.56 | lord_rob | Rubafix: I don't know, I'm not here for advertising. This just mean go to Amazon and search for a book related to debian if you will |
| 23:36.21 | abrotman | Rubafix: he sure does, you don't know how to work your IRC client :) |
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| 23:39.54 | Rubafix | abrotman: yeah I noticed a second after posting ;), the handbook seems good I've seen the cover a few times and I can read it online for freeit would seems, thanks |
| 23:40.22 | Lionyx | can you run netflix on Debian? |
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| 23:40.30 | abrotman | Lionyx: "ish" |
| 23:40.35 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Lionyx about netflix |
| 23:40.59 | km0201 | !netflix |
| 23:40.59 | dpkg | This may or may not work: https://plus.google.com/104912707432334684242/posts/1gnbmo63xVa |
| 23:41.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell km0201 about msg the bot |
| 23:41.27 | km0201 | abrotman, i'm well aware of that... i thought it wasnt' working.. cuz i'd tried it a while ago and it must have been dad |
| 23:41.29 | km0201 | *dead |
| 23:41.39 | km0201 | netflix works perfectly for me though, FWIW. |
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| 23:42.43 | Rubafix | dpkg: tell abrotman about flying giraffes |
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| 23:42.49 | abrotman | nope |
| 23:43.16 | Lionyx | abrotman: i'll give it a try. tks! |
| 23:43.25 | Rubafix | Was just checking =) sadly it's not that competent |
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| 23:47.24 | Lionyx | did not work. keeps telling me to install silverlight plugin |
| 23:47.57 | km0201 | Lionyx, what are you trying to get working? Netflix? |
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| 23:48.32 | Lionyx | km0201: yep |
| 23:48.44 | fadinghavoc | Are we going to get ffmpeg back? My attempt was horrible |
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| 23:49.21 | abrotman | there is libav .. but yes |
| 23:49.23 | km0201 | what version of debian, and what browser? It's working fine for me. |
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| 23:50.05 | fadinghavoc | abrotman: My script doesn't work with libav and every attempt I made to convert it to use avconv failed misirabley. stuff was missing. |
| 23:50.17 | abrotman | judd: versions ffmpeg |
| 23:50.19 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-1; jessie-backports: 7:2.8.1-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:2.8.1-1; sid: 7:2.8.1-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.8.1-dmo3 |
| 23:50.20 | Lionyx | km0201: debian 8 jessie, iceweasel. But now i'm trying hard on chromium |
| 23:50.38 | km0201 | i'm using chrome and it works fine.... |
| 23:50.59 | km0201 | i think that version of FF/IW still requires silverlight.. |
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| 23:53.03 | teraflops | for chromium you need Widevine |
| 23:53.10 | Lionyx | chromium asks for widevine, but it can't be installed on Linux, strange... |
| 23:53.22 | Lionyx | teraflops: i can't manage to get it |
| 23:53.27 | teraflops | Lionyx: it can, not sure if you ca in debian :P |
| 23:53.30 | teraflops | can* |
| 23:53.57 | teraflops | Lionyx: so chome :S |
| 23:54.12 | fadinghavoc | Okay, so how do I get ffmpeg into jessie? |
| 23:54.13 | teraflops | chrome* |
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| 23:54.28 | teraflops | fadinghavoc: compile it, it's not hard |
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| 23:55.02 | fadinghavoc | I compiled it. If is missing x11grab, so yeah, its hard |
| 23:55.14 | markybob | fadinghavoc, abrotman showed you that it's in jessie-backports |
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| 23:55.29 | Lionyx | do you recommend trying pipelight? |
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| 23:55.45 | teraflops | Lionyx: take a look at https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chromium-widevine/ may be you get some clue |
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| 23:56.06 | abrotman | well, that dist-upgrade hosed that box ... |
| 23:56.24 | abrotman | can't even boot to a rescue shell .. this should be interesting |
| 23:56.30 | teraflops | Lionyx: hmm, I do not use pipelight for netflix but it do its job with silverlight + firefox |
| 23:56.50 | fadinghavoc | yeah, dist-upgrde usually does hose a system. |
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| 23:57.01 | Lionyx | http://pipelight.net/cms/install/installation-debian.html <-- asks to do add a repo |
| 23:57.36 | abrotman | fadinghavoc: no, it usually doesn't .. |
| 23:57.37 | teraflops | Lionyx: well you just need the libwidevine*.so from chrome so ... |
| 23:57.48 | abrotman | this box is unloved. I hadn't booted it in months .. |
| 23:57.58 | fadinghavoc | oh, then I just have exceptionally bad luck. Send skynet myway. |
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| 23:59.24 | markybob | abrotman, have you seen your third google result? it's hilariously priceless. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjACahUKEwi8_LPx9O3IAhWFNSYKHQb8A00&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.debian.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D12%26t%3D108597&usg=AFQjCNG9QmU3irNBUzIOW8VLo6OK4aTU-w |
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