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| 00:02.34 | axc1298 | here's another that says linux. might be better. http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WN823N-Mini-Sized-One-Button-10-7-10-10/dp/B0088TKTY2 |
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| 00:03.04 | teraflops | axc1298: what chipset is that? I cannot find that info |
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| 00:03.43 | axc1298 | i'm not sure about the chipset on the first link i'm searching to find it for the second one now. |
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| 00:04.15 | teraflops | axc1298: for a pi thingy? |
| 00:04.30 | axc1298 | just a normal laptop |
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| 00:05.25 | axc1298 | ok it says realtek from what i found |
| 00:05.52 | teraflops | axc1298: ath9k and those ultra cheap rtlcu (realtek) works out of the box |
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| 00:06.00 | axc1298 | Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter |
| 00:06.21 | teraflops | I preffer not to rely on fw but they just work |
| 00:06.34 | axc1298 | fw? |
| 00:06.35 | teraflops | axc1298: yes those just works |
| 00:06.39 | teraflops | firmware |
| 00:06.54 | km0201 | man, i had TONS of problems out of my realtek 8188 (ce i think) |
| 00:06.59 | km0201 | that thing was a nightmare |
| 00:07.08 | km0201 | i vowed to never ever get a realtek again |
| 00:07.17 | teraflops | km0201: is that a RTL8192CU ? |
| 00:07.45 | teraflops | those are cheap as hell and just works not that I love the performance |
| 00:07.47 | km0201 | no, but if I recall they run on the same driver/firmware (it's been a while since i had it) |
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| 00:08.25 | axc1298 | wonder if i can find an atheros card |
| 00:08.30 | axc1298 | might be a safer bet |
| 00:08.32 | teraflops | but, they support bridge mode that is an advantage |
| 00:08.43 | teraflops | axc1298: I agree |
| 00:09.09 | teraflops | which is* |
| 00:09.11 | km0201 | axc1298, i have an atheros (9x) now.. and I like it MUCH better |
| 00:09.27 | teraflops | ath9k is ok for me too |
| 00:09.32 | km0201 | (also supports bridged, for what it's worth) |
| 00:09.42 | axc1298 | km0201: cool. is it a mini or standard size? |
| 00:10.00 | km0201 | axc1298, it's a minipci.. but it came w/ this laptop. |
| 00:10.13 | teraflops | atheros usb dongles? |
| 00:10.14 | teraflops | hmmm |
| 00:10.24 | abrotman | Just tether to your phone! |
| 00:10.24 | km0201 | i was extremely particular while shopping (checking devices, etc) to make sure i didn't end up w/ another realtek |
| 00:10.30 | km0201 | teraflops, they are out there, believe it or not. |
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| 00:10.49 | teraflops | km0201: ah, just wondering |
| 00:10.51 | teraflops | hehe |
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| 00:11.14 | teraflops | km0201: yes I see |
| 00:11.31 | km0201 | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-w-external-antenna-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usbl |
| 00:11.49 | km0201 | when i finally got so sick of tha trealtek, that's the usb devie I bought... it worked great |
| 00:11.59 | teraflops | heh |
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| 00:12.25 | km0201 | (with wheezy anyway... i'd imagine it would work fine w/ jessie as well) |
| 00:12.32 | teraflops | km0201: well the bcm ones can be a nightmare too |
| 00:12.41 | km0201 | teraflops, i agree |
| 00:12.51 | km0201 | with Linux wireless... it's atheros or intel. |
| 00:12.56 | abrotman | just avoid Broadcom if you can .. really |
| 00:13.02 | teraflops | abrotman: amen |
| 00:13.25 | abrotman | And yes, if you want to try to avoid firmware, Atheros, if you're okay with it, Intel |
| 00:13.33 | km0201 | i don't mess w/ broadcom either... although, some of hte *OLD* broadcoms, one you did all the hoop jumping for the firmware, etc... worked pretty well (bcm 4x) |
| 00:13.50 | axc1298 | all the mini adapters i'm seeing seem to be realtek |
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| 00:13.54 | km0201 | i don't have an issue w/ firmware.. i just want them to work |
| 00:14.02 | abrotman | I'd like to insta-ban anyone who recommends Broadcom or unetbootin :) |
| 00:14.02 | axc1298 | or generic brands that are impossible to tell without buying first |
| 00:14.19 | km0201 | axc1298, for some reason, almost all of them are... you have to really look to find atheros usb devices (and it's damn near impossible to find intel ones) |
| 00:14.59 | axc1298 | i'll keep searching thanks |
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| 00:15.09 | km0201 | axc1298, is this a laptop?... on my sisters laptop (it was an acer something) she had a huge problem w/ the realtek as well. |
| 00:15.18 | teraflops | km0201: I think the new ones are the tricky ones |
| 00:15.24 | axc1298 | km0201: yes it is and i've had realtek trouble before too |
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| 00:15.43 | teraflops | km0201: about bcm I mean |
| 00:15.53 | km0201 | turned out, the minipci card, was literally as easy to replace as adding a memory... i found an intel device (3495 i think) on Newegg that would fit for $40 bucks, installe dit.. all problems solved |
| 00:16.06 | axc1298 | the laptop's internal wifi adapter died |
| 00:16.37 | teraflops | axc1298: maybe you can find some minipci that fits in there |
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| 00:17.10 | km0201 | axc1298, you can buy them on newegg... some of them are very easy to replae (like i said.. about as easy as adding RAM)... othes, it'd be easier to get a usb dongle |
| 00:17.19 | axc1298 | i like this product description: Supports Windows 7/8/8.1/Mac OS X (not intuitive)/Linux,support Mac 10, Win 10 now |
| 00:17.21 | km0201 | what model laptop? |
| 00:17.36 | axc1298 | lenovo ideapad z370 |
| 00:17.52 | abrotman | Oh, minipci? easy to replace |
| 00:18.09 | km0201 | abrotman, yeah, as long as you have reasonable access to it |
| 00:18.18 | abrotman | All thinkpads I've used have had that |
| 00:18.21 | teraflops | axc1298: but who knows I believe some brands just block other hw |
| 00:18.34 | abrotman | Though, that may depend on your definition of "reasonable" |
| 00:18.48 | teraflops | abrotman: isnt there a thinkpad issue about that? |
| 00:19.04 | teraflops | or at leat in some models? |
| 00:19.06 | abrotman | about what? |
| 00:19.06 | km0201 | teraflops, never heard of that... dunno |
| 00:19.08 | abrotman | None that I've had |
| 00:19.18 | teraflops | changing the minipci wifi card |
| 00:19.23 | teraflops | hmmm |
| 00:19.35 | abrotman | is likely about to buy another Thinkpad |
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| 00:19.42 | teraflops | abrotman: sure |
| 00:19.54 | km0201 | well, you can do that to..lol |
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| 00:20.04 | teraflops | carbon one look pretty nice |
| 00:20.09 | abrotman | My current one is about five years old. |
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| 00:20.20 | teraflops | looks* |
| 00:20.39 | axc1298 | lenovo has been up to some shady business with their recent models though. the spyware |
| 00:20.47 | abrotman | I asked the boss for an X1 Carbon .. Didn't happen |
| 00:20.51 | teraflops | heh |
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| 00:23.14 | rainfyre | i use a thinkpad too, I wonder how the new ones are, mine's pretty old too |
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| 00:26.49 | teraflops | if they are fine for being used at the ISS I can use then too |
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| 00:34.52 | toothe | Hi, I have an off-the-wall hacking question |
| 00:35.39 | toothe | I am running a Chromebook, ARMv7 -- I am using crouton so its emulating (not sure if that's the right word) Debian. |
| 00:36.26 | toothe | There's a proprietary software that I want to run. It only comes for Fedora on an ARMv7. So I downloaded the RPM, unzipped it, and tried to run it. |
| 00:37.12 | toothe | but it complains that libcrypto.so.10 is not found. So I downloaded openssl-libs from the fedora package, and tried to run that binary against the library, but it still complains that libcrypto.so.10 is found. |
| 00:37.23 | at0m | dpkg: tell toothe about alien |
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| 00:37.25 | toothe | Why isn't the file found? |
| 00:37.33 | toothe | (yes, its definitely a hack) |
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| 00:38.06 | toothe | but my understanding is that Linux = Linux, and the specific flavor of the OS is just user-land stuff. |
| 00:38.18 | at0m | toothe: read dpkg's msg to you |
| 00:38.20 | toothe | oh...interesting... |
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| 00:40.40 | toothe | hm....this wants armv7hl and my CPU is armv7l....darn... |
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| 00:48.08 | toothe | woot woot! |
| 00:48.09 | toothe | thanks. |
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| 01:12.04 | kyfho | why does debian claim event apache mpm is still experimental? |
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| 01:16.59 | sundie__ | <kyfho> why does debian claim event apache mpm is still experimental? |
| 01:17.10 | sundie__ | because stupid people are stupid |
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| 01:17.29 | mutante | because it was when the text was written? |
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| 01:18.36 | jarray52 | greycat: disk I/O was my bottleneck. |
| 01:18.43 | jarray52 | thanks |
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| 01:35.23 | jessequinn | quick question. for debian install if i select wifi it only has wpa/wpa2 psk it doesnt have an option for wpa2 enterprise? |
| 01:42.15 | km0201 | hmm, not sure on that jessequinn ... only used wifi to install once or twice.. which wireless device |
| 01:42.17 | km0201 | ? |
| 01:42.33 | km0201 | if it's an issue... just disable your wireless security during the install, then re-enable after you're done so you can figure this out. |
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| 01:42.53 | jessequinn | i cannot control the security. university housing |
| 01:43.02 | km0201 | ah, gotcha. |
| 01:43.12 | jessequinn | the device was found just no option for wpa2 enterprise |
| 01:43.23 | km0201 | enteresting |
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| 01:43.43 | jessequinn | just wep/open and wpa/wpa2 psk |
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| 01:43.58 | km0201 | what wireless device? |
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| 01:44.11 | jessequinn | TL-w851nd |
| 01:45.52 | km0201 | maybe it needs the atheros firmware? (doesn't help you much, i know) |
| 01:46.10 | jessequinn | not sure but for installation not possible |
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| 01:47.27 | km0201 | i ust checked my atheros 9x (same chipset as yours)... and i've got wpa2 enterprise available. |
| 01:47.46 | jessequinn | during installation? |
| 01:47.59 | km0201 | no... i don't know during installation because i was cabled to my router |
| 01:48.08 | jessequinn | yah im talking about installation |
| 01:48.12 | km0201 | right, i understand that |
| 01:48.14 | jessequinn | im sure post-install |
| 01:48.22 | km0201 | what i'm saying is.. i just checked, and enterprise is an option post install |
| 01:48.28 | jessequinn | for sue |
| 01:48.29 | jessequinn | sure |
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| 01:48.54 | quantic | jessequinn: it's likely because almost any WPA2 enterprise deployment requires at least a CA certificate that's not available in the install environment. |
| 01:48.58 | km0201 | can you tether to your phone or something, to complete the install? |
| 01:49.13 | km0201 | quantic, good point. |
| 01:49.14 | jessequinn | i just ignore network stuff |
| 01:49.30 | jessequinn | but im a little worried that i will require wpa_supplicant which isnt included with base system? |
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| 01:50.25 | km0201 | i'm guessing that will be an issue.. cuz i dn't think it is. |
| 01:51.06 | quantic | jessequinn: what media are you using to run the install? |
| 01:51.14 | jessequinn | dvd iso on usb |
| 01:51.24 | quantic | jessequinn: then it'll be available on the DVD via apt. |
| 01:51.32 | jessequinn | im sure i will have to internet share from mac for this install then |
| 01:51.36 | jessequinn | really |
| 01:51.37 | jessequinn | nice |
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| 01:51.48 | quantic | jessequinn: It's not part of the base install, but it's a popular enough package that I'm virtually certain its on the dvd. |
| 01:52.02 | quantic | jessequinn: I'll verify in a vm here for you real quick. |
| 01:52.02 | jessequinn | the first ddvd |
| 01:52.04 | jessequinn | dvd* |
| 01:53.00 | quantic | jessequinn: what task selection options did you pick, so I can replicate your install? |
| 01:53.36 | jessequinn | graphic install |
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| 01:56.19 | jessequinn | sorry |
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| 01:58.07 | km0201 | bbl... good luck jessequinn |
| 01:58.38 | jessequinn | yah im just internet sharing from mac |
| 01:58.39 | jessequinn | lol |
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| 02:48.08 | jessequinn | what do i need to add to sources.list to get apt-get to install isc-dhcp-server? i currently get an error finding package |
| 02:48.26 | somiaj | ,v isc-dhcp-server |
| 02:48.27 | judd | Package: isc-dhcp-server on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 4.1.1-P1-15+squeeze8; squeeze: 4.1.1-P1-15+squeeze8; wheezy: 4.2.2.dfsg.1-5+deb70u6; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.2.2.dfsg.1-5+deb70u7; jessie: 4.3.1-6; jessie-proposed-updates: 4.3.1-6+deb8u1; sid: 4.3.3-5; stretch: 4.3.3-5; experimental: 4.3.3-6 |
| 02:48.49 | jessequinn | jessie is what im running |
| 02:48.51 | somiaj | jessequinn: you shouldn't need to add anything if you have proper internet sources. What version of debian are you running? |
| 02:49.03 | somiaj | Have you set up internet sources or just have the cd sources setup? |
| 02:49.04 | jessequinn | latest |
| 02:49.13 | jessequinn | i have 4 internet sources uncommented |
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| 02:49.22 | jessequinn | security and ftp.debian.rg |
| 02:49.27 | jessequinn | org* |
| 02:49.32 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jessequinn about jessie sources.list |
| 02:49.53 | somiaj | jessequinn: it might be your mirror, you should use the httpredir.debian.org mirror as the bot should have told you about. |
| 02:51.31 | jessequinn | awesome. worked thanks. |
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| 03:01.56 | weva | hello, a few days ago I was mistakenly advised here by someone to have a partition "written" by testdisk in order to restore it, but as a result the partitions of the whole drive were altered. and I heard from other people since that this action could be reversed and former partition tables restored. could you maybe help me know how I can do it? |
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| 03:04.18 | jmcnaught | weva: that's too bad :/ i don't know a lot about data recovery, but what i would do is take an image of the drive (using dd perhaps) and use the recovery tools like testdisk on the image instead of the physical disk. then if you make things worse you can start with another copy of the image |
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| 03:11.31 | weva | jmcnaught, thank you, I will try to get an image of drive. but I don't know how to proceed then. |
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| 03:27.34 | idts | just install nvidia-kernel-dkms and x seems not to be able to load the module - followed dpkg instructions - x wont start |
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| 03:28.33 | idts | but of course the nvidia module seems to be loaded at boot |
| 03:29.48 | idts | what could I have been missing |
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| 03:33.22 | jmcnaught | idts: did you follow these instructions? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers There is more to do than installing the package, you also need to do some configuration |
| 03:34.29 | idts | jmcnaught:just installed the pkg and deps all configured |
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| 03:35.00 | jmcnaught | idts: see the configuration section of that page |
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| 03:35.07 | idts | !nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 03:35.07 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 03:35.27 | idts | this is what I followed |
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| 03:35.54 | jmcnaught | idts: you made the file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ? |
| 03:36.29 | idts | will have to look at that page but at the moment no x to do so |
| 03:36.31 | foul_owl | Is there an apt command that shows the last time a package was updated? Just so I can tell if a project is abandoned or not. |
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| 03:36.42 | foul_owl | The project in question is qsynth |
| 03:37.06 | idts | yes, the dir and the config are in place |
| 03:37.34 | jmcnaught | foul_owl: "apt-cache policy qsynth" will tell you the version of the debian package you have installed. "apt-cache show" will show you information about the package, often including a home page (but not always) |
| 03:39.51 | jmcnaught | idts: you can check for errors in the output of "dmesg" or in the journal with "journalctl". for both commands it'll probably be helpful to pipe to grep to look for keywords like "journalctl | grep nvidia" for example |
| 03:40.31 | idts | jmcnaught:nvidia module is loaded at boot |
| 03:41.08 | idts | jmcnaught: there is the x log http://paste.debian.net/321316/ |
| 03:41.55 | jmcnaught | idts: line 104 of your paste has an error "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" |
| 03:42.30 | jmcnaught | idts: unfortunately i don't know a lot about using proprietary drivers. i could help you switch back to the default open source nouveau driver if you want |
| 03:42.44 | idts | jmcaught:that is my question since the module is actually loaded at boot |
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| 03:43.54 | idts | jmcnaught:if i uninstall nvidia-kernel-dkms all is well in x |
| 03:43.54 | jmcnaught | idts: where do you see that? from the sounds of it it may not have installed properly or maybe the nouveau driver isn't blacklisted (which can prevent the proprietary one from loading properly). |
| 03:44.11 | jmcnaught | idts: was that a question or are you telling me this? |
| 03:44.37 | idts | just telling you |
| 03:44.43 | idts | ok |
| 03:45.24 | idts | let see the proprietary driver is not the one in the pkg right? |
| 03:45.29 | jmcnaught | idts: maybe the nvidia proprietary driver didn't install properly then.. if you try it again watch the output of the commands carefully for errors |
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| 03:46.09 | jmcnaught | idts: nvidia-kernel-dkms is a package that installs the proprietary driver. the default one (nouveau) is open source and is installed automatically, it generally just works |
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| 03:47.08 | idts | jmcnaught:ok then the proproprietary driver is not loading then |
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| 03:47.56 | idts | jmcnaught:kmod list shows na nvidia and what is that |
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| 03:49.48 | jmcnaught | idts: i dunno.. maybe you got part of the driver installed but part of it failed. like i said i don't know very much about the proprietary drivers and usually actively recommend against using them. from what i understand for the nvidia driver to work properly the nouveau driver must be blacklisted by a file in /etc/modprobe.d |
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| 03:50.41 | idts | jmcnaught:ok need to blacklist then and try |
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| 03:52.01 | jmcnaught | idts: best of luck, highlight me if you want some help switching back to the open source driver |
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| 03:52.58 | idts | jmcnaught:it should go like option off in a nouveau.conf right? |
| 03:53.45 | jmcnaught | idts: if the nvidia packages were installed properly the blacklist file would already be present from what i understand. there is some troubleshooting info about it on the wiki page |
| 03:54.36 | idts | ok, let me see |
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| 04:09.17 | foul_owl | jmcnaught: Thanks! |
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| 04:14.50 | andrew[andrboot] | Hi guys, im syncing the backports mirror with ftpsync, and my client is throwing out "The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA" | I have tried a few different mirrors, but same thing, any ideas? |
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| 04:51.27 | arahael | Does debootstrap work in a mac os x chroot? If not, are there any alternatives? |
| 04:51.55 | arahael | Or should I just use virtualbox? |
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| 04:55.22 | brguy | arahael, it depends... I've seen some people using Debian on MacBook (https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook) |
| 04:55.26 | brguy | but I never used myself |
| 04:55.42 | brguy | arahael, I would go with virtual machine, but if it's for development I would use containers |
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| 05:02.46 | arahael | brguy: So, in other words, a virtual machine. |
| 05:03.12 | brguy | arahael, you said before virtualbox, which is not exactly the same as a container... |
| 05:03.17 | arahael | I don't think mac os x itself has any support for containers. |
| 05:03.33 | brguy | docker works fine on osx |
| 05:03.34 | brguy | http://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/mac/ |
| 05:03.42 | arahael | Yes, but requires virtualbox to do so. :) |
| 05:03.51 | brguy | yeap |
| 05:03.59 | arahael | (And it uses a ~25MB linux VM to do so) |
| 05:04.05 | arahael | The container actually runs in that linux VM. |
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| 05:04.32 | brguy | in that case, yes |
| 05:04.40 | brguy | but again, not the ideal setup, me thinks |
| 05:04.44 | arahael | Cool. |
| 05:04.51 | arahael | I think it's the only way. |
| 05:04.58 | brguy | arahael, is it for development? |
| 05:05.10 | arahael | brguy: More or less, yes. Also hoping to have a linux userland. |
| 05:05.26 | brguy | arahael, if so why not get a simple server (like DO or server4you) and use containers inside of it? |
| 05:05.31 | arahael | brguy: I'd be able to get /most/ of the way there with brew, though, but sometimes I _like_ how debian does things. |
| 05:05.40 | brguy | you can develop, deploy over ssh and test |
| 05:05.49 | brguy | yeah, true that tho |
| 05:05.52 | arahael | Ah. It's for development... But not for work. ;) |
| 05:05.59 | brguy | oh, I see |
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| 05:06.17 | brguy | I really liked a text some years ago (maybe 2014 (?)) about a guy that used mac with debian on debianconf |
| 05:06.22 | brguy | lemme see if I find it |
| 05:06.37 | arahael | Cool. :) Let me know how it was. |
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| 05:08.48 | weva | hello everyone, could the comman 'sudo strings -n 4 -t d /dev/sdc | grep LUKS' return a different output each time it is run? |
| 05:09.02 | weva | command* |
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| 05:09.38 | weva | like, finding new strings |
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| 06:30.07 | jantwisted | hi all, I want to install endless-sky game in debian. can someone give me a help |
| 06:30.09 | jantwisted | https://mentors.debian.net/package/endless-sky |
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| 07:05.14 | well_laid_lawn | Ydh |
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| 07:10.03 | swift110-phone | Hey |
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| 07:14.00 | Nomads | sed -i 's/^0.0.0.0\t0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0/' can someone explain what is wrong with this sed line? I'm trying to find if there's 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 entry, delete that line. |
| 07:15.15 | well_laid_lawn | you're escaping the t not the \t |
| 07:15.24 | well_laid_lawn | so \\t |
| 07:15.30 | well_laid_lawn | afaik |
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| 07:17.48 | Nomads | And that fixes it... :D |
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| 07:18.07 | Nomads | Thanks well_laid_lawn, |
| 07:18.19 | well_laid_lawn | cheers |
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| 07:34.27 | Bielecki | Hello. When I type "service <service> restart" i don't have default output ie. "Restarting <service>... [OK |
| 07:34.34 | Bielecki | how to enable that? |
| 07:34.56 | ali_ | Bielecki, what version of debian are you using ? |
| 07:35.04 | Bielecki | Debian 8.1 |
| 07:35.40 | ali_ | Bielecki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd |
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| 07:41.14 | Bielecki | umpf... either I'm stupid or blind, because I don't see there anything that I could use to manage that option... |
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| 07:56.31 | well_laid_lawn | systemctl <service> restart |
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| 07:58.29 | jelly | well_laid_lawn: that'd be either "service <service> restart" or "systemctl restart <service>" |
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| 08:03.23 | BakaSec | hi |
| 08:03.29 | BakaSec | who use kde? |
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| 08:03.47 | well_laid_lawn | jelly: I always get that order wrong, I haven't used systtemd |
| 08:04.06 | BakaSec | i use HURD kernel) |
| 08:04.15 | alechko | hey guys, after upgrading wheezy to jessie I'm unable to boot with my encrypted drive, the error ends with "Check that kernel supports aes-xts-plain64 cipher" |
| 08:04.39 | BakaSec | you use x86_64 system? |
| 08:04.46 | well_laid_lawn | for ages |
| 08:04.48 | alechko | yes |
| 08:04.55 | BakaSec | hm... |
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| 08:06.16 | BakaSec | get to me your lsblk |
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| 08:06.24 | BakaSec | get to me your lsblk |
| 08:06.30 | BakaSec | slechko |
| 08:06.33 | BakaSec | alechko |
| 08:06.38 | alechko | canot boot |
| 08:06.47 | BakaSec | oy |
| 08:07.00 | alechko | trying to boot with live image right now |
| 08:07.04 | BakaSec | use live usb |
| 08:07.06 | BakaSec | ye |
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| 08:08.24 | jomofcw | Hello :). |
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| 08:09.48 | alechko | @BakaSec http://pastebin.com/51ExeZxD |
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| 08:25.10 | jomofcw | Any exim's pro there, please ? |
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| 09:01.12 | Haxxa | sudo apt-get install teedmx - didn't work :( |
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| 09:02.14 | x86_64 | Haxxa, what are you trying to do? |
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| 09:03.10 | Haxxa | install teedmx so I can cache my sigrefs to file |
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| 09:04.11 | Haxxa | spec to 4 from 8 over two refs - although maybe 2 would be suitable if teedmx is in 64bit mode |
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| 09:20.59 | IsntFunny | Hello, i am trying to install chromium on my rpi2 which is running jessie, could someone be so kind and help me out? |
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| 09:26.14 | themill | IsntFunny: chromium in debian is not available for armhf |
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| 09:27.13 | IsntFunny | Can i use the ubuntu version available here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser |
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| 09:29.12 | NicholasCage | I can't get my .NET environment to function properly, anyone with basic knowledge in .. well, compilers? I'm trying to use DNX |
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| 09:29.32 | jelly | what's DNX? |
| 09:30.13 | jelly | NicholasCage: which debian release are you running this on? |
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| 09:30.50 | themill | IsntFunny: you could try to compile that source although you may well find that the hardware you have is not capable of compiling a beast like that |
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| 09:31.31 | IsntFunny | I can compile it on my working computer? https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux_chromium_arm.md#Recipe2_Explicit-Cross-compiling |
| 09:33.00 | NicholasCage | jelly: wheezy |
| 09:33.38 | jelly | ouch, no idea if mono in wheezy is good enough |
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| 09:41.36 | NicholasCage | jelly: :/ |
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| 09:42.13 | km0201 | NicholasCage, is awesome! "What you think I'm gonna do.. I'm gonna save the f'n day"..lol. |
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| 09:42.56 | km0201 | what's wrong NicholasCage ? |
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| 09:47.27 | km0201 | NicholasCage, whats wrong? |
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| 10:28.35 | valentt | I have nullmailer installed on vpn endpoint, but that node has no access to internet, but vpn server has access to the internet. Is it possible to configure nullmailer on vpn endpoint to forward mails to nullmailer on vpn server, which then sents it off to real smtp server? |
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| 10:29.38 | Aliekezhi | isn't there a simple way to schedule a task with cron every 75 min ? |
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| 10:30.15 | themill | Aliekezhi: no, but you could make 4 cron jobs to do that |
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| 10:30.56 | Aliekezhi | themill, it means I have to list all exact hours of every days of the week ? ... it will take me one hour to do that |
| 10:32.21 | themill | it's the same times every day |
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| 10:32.45 | nicechap | is there a way to disable showing the popup window when right clicking on desktop in GNOME Shell 3.14.4 (debian 8 jessie) |
| 10:33.32 | nicechap | it's driving me nuts as it shows up randomly when I am on terminal, no idea what triggers it |
| 10:34.36 | rabbitear | nicechap: what is? |
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| 10:35.02 | Aliekezhi | themill, if you calculate from 0:00 the first day, it will end at 11:15, and start again at 0:30 the second day... |
| 10:35.38 | themill | oh, duh. I can't count |
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| 10:36.09 | Aliekezhi | themill, it makes a cycle of 5 hours |
| 10:36.14 | nicechap | rabbitear, when your mouse pointer is on gnome desktop and you right click with the mouse, it shows a menu (settings + change background). I get that menu even when I am working on terminal sometimes |
| 10:36.46 | nicechap | and it locks the terminal until I somehow can get rid of it |
| 10:37.33 | nicechap | maybe some key combination triggers it, no idea. I just want to disable it all together |
| 10:37.47 | rabbitear | nicechap: I use i3 these days |
| 10:37.47 | valentt | I'm guessing that nullmailer can't accept mails from remote server, right? Do I need a real MTA then on vpn server? |
| 10:37.47 | themill | Aliekezhi: a systemd timer can probably do this (but I've not looked at them yet) |
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| 10:38.07 | nicechap | rabbitear, what is i3? |
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| 10:38.30 | FranX | which linux I should install? |
| 10:38.34 | rabbitear | http://i3wm.org/ |
| 10:38.41 | nicechap | FranX, debian jessie |
| 10:38.43 | FranX | If I was a junior |
| 10:38.44 | Aliekezhi | themill, of course I don't need to do this, it's for a stupid exercice for my networking studies :D |
| 10:38.48 | rabbitear | FranX: all |
| 10:38.57 | FranX | hmmm |
| 10:39.05 | FranX | For example |
| 10:39.06 | rabbitear | FranX: then first do Linux from Scratch |
| 10:39.12 | FranX | Ubuntu,Arch |
| 10:39.15 | Aliekezhi | themill, have to do it with cron :( |
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| 10:39.17 | rabbitear | FranX: so you don't have lots to complain about |
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| 10:39.33 | rabbitear | FranX: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org |
| 10:39.44 | FranX | rabbitear: what do you mean |
| 10:39.47 | themill | Aliekezhi: bah... do it every 15 minutes and increment a counter in a "lock" file and only do it every 5th time |
| 10:39.56 | rabbitear | FranX: you will figure it out |
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| 10:40.01 | rabbitear | FranX: or die |
| 10:40.05 | FranX | rabbitear: okay |
| 10:40.11 | rabbitear | FranX: :) |
| 10:40.18 | FranX | rabbitear: what - - |
| 10:40.32 | rabbitear | FranX: I can't smile at you? |
| 10:40.40 | rabbitear | FranX: are you some kind of freak? |
| 10:41.00 | FranX | I heard Linus Torvalds use the Debian |
| 10:41.11 | rabbitear | FranX: maybe its because you're not that schooled up |
| 10:41.19 | FranX | So I think may be I should try it |
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| 10:41.58 | rabbitear | FranX: sounds like your going downtown to go drink or something |
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| 10:42.04 | rabbitear | FranX: yes you should |
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| 10:42.46 | FranX | Do you recommand? |
| 10:42.55 | FranX | the Debian |
| 10:43.01 | themill | FranX: no, no-one in #debian recommends installing debian. |
| 10:43.13 | rabbitear | yeah.. :) |
| 10:43.29 | ewew | themill Why is it like this ? |
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| 10:43.32 | valent | FranX, Linus Torvalds is known to use Fedora, he gives them grief on his Google+ account each time they push new release an screw something up :) |
| 10:43.32 | FranX | oaky,why ... |
| 10:44.08 | rabbitear | FranX: for fun |
| 10:44.20 | rabbitear | FranX: why wouldn't you do that? |
| 10:44.46 | rabbitear | FranX: its called being mindful of things. |
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| 10:46.24 | FranX | Linux From Scratch is too hard for me |
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| 10:46.33 | FranX | I'm just a junior |
| 10:46.44 | rabbitear | not really |
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| 10:47.06 | rabbitear | you -can- cut and paste the entire book.. FranX |
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| 10:47.15 | rabbitear | FranX: you could do that |
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| 10:48.30 | FranX | rabbitear: yes,cut myself |
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| 10:49.11 | rabbitear | FranX: you got the wrong ideas there bro |
| 10:49.23 | rabbitear | FranX: really... |
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| 10:54.53 | nicechap | rabbitear, do you recommend the i3 ? |
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| 10:55.20 | nicechap | has it made a big impact in efficiency etc of your work? |
| 10:55.36 | rabbitear | nicechap: what? |
| 10:55.47 | nicechap | rabbitear, you said you started using i3 |
| 10:56.02 | rabbitear | nicechap: not really always drink IPA and chat up my buddies on irc |
| 10:56.10 | nicechap | :D |
| 10:56.14 | rabbitear | nicechap: oh... probably |
| 10:56.14 | bezaban | I can recommend i3, been just right for me |
| 10:56.36 | nicechap | all right bezaban |
| 10:56.44 | rabbitear | its good that i3 |
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| 10:56.52 | bezaban | if you can get it nicely integrated with gnome you can add some of the useful parts |
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| 10:57.42 | bezaban | like battery monitor for laptops, and network applet for all machines. Tweaking the status bar is a little annoying, but rewarding once done |
| 10:57.47 | rabbitear | ya, all people -should- trip out i3 |
| 10:57.59 | rabbitear | to be cool. |
| 10:58.10 | bezaban | for a better workflow :) |
| 10:58.35 | rabbitear | bezaban: 10 inch screen its the only way |
| 10:59.00 | bezaban | rabbitear: yeah, it's useful on my netbook, but also run it on 2x 24" |
| 10:59.15 | rabbitear | bezaban: I've been thinking about device usefullness a little bit lately |
| 10:59.29 | rabbitear | bezaban: true |
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| 10:59.51 | rabbitear | bezaban: I -should NOT- buy anything else |
| 11:00.15 | rabbitear | bezaban: I -should- figure it out in software |
| 11:00.28 | rabbitear | bezaban: which is a serious pain in the ass actually. |
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| 11:00.46 | rabbitear | takes up time. |
| 11:01.03 | rabbitear | ^ sometimes |
| 11:01.11 | bezaban | well software can't solve all solutions |
| 11:01.16 | bezaban | er. problems. |
| 11:01.28 | rabbitear | I'm getting better at see'ing how the corporate world does it |
| 11:01.59 | Kingsy | can someone think of a way of me installing mpd 0.19.11 on wheezy? |
| 11:02.01 | rabbitear | there's always, the, no we don't need that, thats not the vision in real life |
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| 11:02.33 | Kingsy | it currently has 0.16 which is 5 years old.. hehehe |
| 11:02.38 | rabbitear | 'don't waist' 'your time' |
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| 11:02.57 | rabbitear | 'and infact I will stop you now!' |
| 11:04.20 | rabbitear | for reason |
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| 11:04.49 | rabbitear | just not all are aware, what is gonna happen with cash |
| 11:05.15 | ewew | rabbitear redirect to #debian-offtopic ? |
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| 11:06.18 | themill | Kingsy: you can look at wheezy-backports or upgrade to jessie. |
| 11:06.39 | valent | Hej I can use ssh to just copy nullmailer files from vpn endnode to vpn server, and then vpn server will mail them out... nice :) |
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| 11:16.07 | carp_ | Hi guys, I have debian 8 on a computer. I havent turned it on for a few months. When I do, should I run apt-get update straight away? Anything else? |
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| 11:17.08 | vamps | carp_: update && dist-upgrade |
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| 11:17.52 | carp_ | vamps:" apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade" is that correct? |
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| 11:18.29 | vamps | carp_: yeah, you probable need to reboot on the new kernel after that |
| 11:18.38 | rabbitear | carp_: you know how to check that how? |
| 11:18.55 | carp_ | vamps: righto. |
| 11:19.04 | carp_ | rabbitear: I know how to check what? |
| 11:19.19 | rabbitear | carp_: who works on that? |
| 11:19.29 | rabbitear | carp_: how that works? |
| 11:19.39 | carp_ | rabbitear: Im sorry I still dont understand the question |
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| 11:20.02 | rabbitear | carp_: well, I'm still gonna ask you |
| 11:20.24 | carp_ | rabbitear: who works on what? |
| 11:20.40 | rabbitear | carp_: why do you know these things? |
| 11:21.02 | km0201 | is confused |
| 11:21.24 | carp_ | rabbitear: Ah are you asking me how I know to do apt-get update? You are saying if Im a noob, how do I know about apt get update? |
| 11:21.35 | rabbitear | no |
| 11:21.39 | km0201 | lol |
| 11:21.48 | rabbitear | carp_: you should read or something |
| 11:21.50 | km0201 | even ubuntu users know about apt-get update |
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| 11:22.23 | carp_ | rabbitear: Are you saying 'do you know how to use the command line to run apt get update?' |
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| 11:22.39 | rabbitear | carp_: don't get into reporting to the public about the misunderstandings that you have atleast |
| 11:22.57 | Thorne | Oh. |
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| 11:23.04 | Thorne | I thought it moved to oftc. |
| 11:23.17 | rabbitear | next year |
| 11:23.41 | Thorne | okay |
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| 11:24.19 | carp_ | rabbitear: Are you saying i should know how dist upgrade works by reading the manual properly, rather than rely on someone just telling me to run it? |
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| 11:24.37 | rabbitear | no |
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| 11:24.48 | rabbitear | I don't care what you do |
| 11:25.08 | rabbitear | its fun to know about things with the manual as well. |
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| 11:25.46 | carp_ | rabbitear: If you wish to try to explain what you do mean that would be nice. At the moment I dont understand. If you dont want to, fine. |
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| 11:26.21 | rabbitear | rtmfm |
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| 11:27.04 | weva | hello TJ- |
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| 11:28.15 | km0201 | your statements were pretty ambiguous.. i didn't even understand them. |
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| 11:29.00 | oo_miguel | I have two different libcstdc++.so.6 in my system. the one that shipped with debian, and another one I got compiling a recent gcc from source and installing it just for my local user under /home/miguel/opt/. Is there some nice solution to use them along each other or should I run binaries I compile with the newer gcc with: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/miguel/opt/gcc-5.1.0/lib64/ ? |
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| 11:30.47 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: the thing you compile will choose only one, you'll be okay |
| 11:30.52 | Lionyx | is there a /proc file in order to check cpu temperature? |
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| 11:30.59 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: unless you want to prefer yourself |
| 11:31.13 | oo_miguel | rabbitear: hmm but now the /home/miguel/opt/gcc-5.1.0/lib64/ is not searched at all |
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| 11:31.19 | rabbitear | Lionyx: in /sys |
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| 11:31.27 | oo_miguel | so I get an error not providing this path for some binaries |
| 11:31.32 | virgosun | hi |
| 11:31.38 | oo_miguel | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found |
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| 11:31.47 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: for runtime or compile time? |
| 11:31.50 | oo_miguel | runtime |
| 11:32.17 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: ............ |
| 11:32.24 | Eldunar | hello. i wanted to wrtie script which will pack folder into .tar.gz . But name should be formatted date. But it gives me error. Thats the part of script: http://pastebin.com/Tj0kYcJi . |
| 11:32.35 | carp_ | Ah it seems you did want me to read the manual rather than rely on people here. Yes I agree. Its just that I havent turned on the Debian machine for a fe months, so I wanted to double check with the experts. |
| 11:32.37 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: add to /etc/ld. ? |
| 11:32.43 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: search that |
| 11:32.46 | carp_ | few* |
| 11:32.57 | oo_miguel | rabbitear: I did not, thought this will cause trouble for all my old binaries.. :P |
| 11:33.29 | rabbitear | /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 11:33.43 | oo_miguel | rabbitear: Ill try this, thank you |
| 11:34.04 | Lionyx | rabbitear: tks, tryring to find the right one. |
| 11:34.09 | virgosun | Hi, I want to play xfce lohout sound, hwo can I do |
| 11:34.13 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: no........... ldd ./my/app/thingy and look what its useing |
| 11:34.20 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: key is ldd |
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| 11:34.58 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: you can figure out what to things are wierd like missing from there |
| 11:34.59 | oo_miguel | rabbitear: this vayies when I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH . but ill try to set it in the config and see |
| 11:35.01 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: ldd |
| 11:35.15 | virgosun | xfce play sound when logout, restart, shutdown, how to , any one can help |
| 11:35.23 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: doesn't matter what is set, ldd will tell you what is up |
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| 11:35.56 | oo_miguel | rabbitear: ok, Ill play around with ldd, thanks! |
| 11:36.18 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: PATHs, are in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 11:36.25 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: fyi |
| 11:36.37 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: in that order too |
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| 11:36.58 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: but I think there are two other defaults in the libc |
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| 11:37.24 | lm129 | hi all. |
| 11:37.27 | lm129 | a freeze on aptitude update, at downloading stage, any clues ? |
| 11:37.39 | oo_miguel | rabbitear: ok, so it depends on the order I sepcify the libraries. If i set the new one at the beginning than EVERYTHING is linked against the new one at runtime by ldd |
| 11:37.46 | weva | hello, I'd like to create a disk image of an external drive before I work on it to reverse its recent partition table changes. but because of the said changes it is mostly "free space" now, except for 5 encrypted volumes with 2,5mb space each. is it relevant or possible to get an image of it with so much free space? |
| 11:37.50 | rabbitear | lm129: bad internet |
| 11:38.12 | Eldunar | hello. i wanted to wrtie script which will pack folder into .tar.gz . But name should be formatted date. But it gives me error. Thats the part of script: http://pastebin.com/Tj0kYcJi . |
| 11:38.25 | rabbitear | oo_miguel: .......... you can run strace to figure out what one process is actually doing |
| 11:38.58 | lm129 | rabbitear: strange, all downloads (aptitude update) are very fast but at the very last line, it hangs .... |
| 11:38.58 | virgosun | hello I want to play sound when xfce or system shutdown, how to do, any one know |
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| 11:39.53 | rabbitear | lm129: their is throttling of traffic going on, or just people fucking with the network |
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| 11:40.25 | rabbitear | lm129: shitty admins |
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| 11:40.58 | rabbitear | lm129: take their jobs ') |
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| 11:41.21 | johndoe | hey guys! do you know of any good .pdf editors? |
| 11:41.41 | lm129 | rabbitear: fucking bloated admins you mean ;) |
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| 11:41.50 | lm129 | hehehe ^^ |
| 11:42.04 | ewew | rabbitear Whats wrong now ? |
| 11:42.07 | rabbitear | lm129: that sounds like network b.s. |
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| 11:42.16 | rabbitear | ewew: not too much |
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| 11:42.33 | ewew | rabbitear Just slow debian repository ? |
| 11:42.40 | rabbitear | ewew: these guys had alot of questions so I decided to answer them |
| 11:42.54 | rabbitear | ewew: I don't know in real life |
| 11:42.55 | ewew | rabbitear I see. |
| 11:43.10 | rabbitear | ewew: things come up |
| 11:43.15 | rabbitear | ewew: you learn more |
| 11:43.32 | virgosun | ewew do u know how to play sound when exit xfce |
| 11:43.39 | rabbitear | just a bunch of likely shit...... |
| 11:43.51 | rabbitear | ^ spec for virgosun's |
| 11:44.06 | lm129 | rabbitear: i could but they earn a very low salary heh ;) |
| 11:44.10 | rabbitear | he's almost gonna ddos the room |
| 11:44.25 | rabbitear | fuck that money |
| 11:44.34 | rabbitear | worthless anyway :) |
| 11:44.46 | rabbitear | its whats in the heart. |
| 11:44.52 | rabbitear | that matters |
| 11:44.54 | virgosun | rabbitear: which spec |
| 11:44.57 | rabbitear | [hey brb] |
| 11:44.57 | ewew | rabbitear We should go to offtopic room. |
| 11:45.06 | rabbitear | okay good idea |
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| 11:46.50 | Lionyx | rabbitear: sensors give's me a temperature number! yeah! but no way i could find it under /sys :( |
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| 11:47.14 | Lionyx | i'm on /sys/bus/acpi/devices, now checking those folders |
| 11:47.31 | virgosun | how to play quicktime .mov in chromuim |
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| 11:50.48 | km0201 | i believe chromium should play .mov out of the box. |
| 11:52.42 | km0201 | well wait.. i guess not... you'd need to add debian multimedia, and multimedia codecs, and probably ffmpeg... even then may not play in chrome... just download/install vlc... problem solved |
| 11:53.26 | lm129 | rabbitear: all is in the heart you true |
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| 12:06.18 | carp_ | Im just looking for ways to get a terminal up quickly in gnome on debian 8. It seems that the terminal is pretty much vital as I seem to need to use it straight so frequently and almost straight away. If I press alt+f2 then i brings up a black box saying enter command, but it doesnt let me do sudo apt-get from it (it just disappears after I press enter). control+alt+T doesnt do anything. There is not an option to set keyobard shortcut |
| 12:07.01 | carp_ | settings. The solution I have at the moment is to manually save the terminal into the left hand side bar, so I have to do 2 clicks to get to a terminal. Its not that bad but is there a fasterway? |
| 12:07.23 | carp_ | Why is it not default? it seems so vital to me. |
| 12:07.36 | cast__ | hi, i'm having sound sound annoyances, in both firefox ahd chrome I don't get any audio out when using hangouts, however the mic works fine. just playing youtube videos works fine. i'm not using pulseaudio, is it possible that my audio card driver only allows either the mic or the speaker out to work at once? |
| 12:07.42 | Lionyx | This is strange! When reading the BIOS i get 80°C on my CPU, when reading sensors output, it give's me 50°C. Which one should I trust? |
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| 12:08.50 | Mathisen | Lionyx, i would say BIOS |
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| 12:09.07 | Mathisen | Lionyx, 80 is kinda high also.... |
| 12:09.15 | cast__ | i believe i'm using alsa for sound, i use alsamixer to adjust the volume. i did try pulseaudio, however it wouldn't start as my user, i'm not using systemd - i'm not sure if there's an implicit dependancy between the two |
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| 12:10.10 | psychopomp | hi all |
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| 12:10.37 | Lionyx | Mathisen: yep. made up a "server" from 3 trashed machines, changed the thermal paste with some "generic" for electronics i had (those grease white ones), it's better, but way to high. |
| 12:11.13 | cast__ | if its within the operating envelope of your cpu, and its not crashing, is it too high? |
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| 12:11.53 | Lionyx | Mathisen: also, another thing I noticed is that this time the temperature when inside Linux started with 65 and dropped to 52°C. Is Linux capable to manage it better than the BIOS or i'm gettng wrong info? |
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| 12:12.37 | Mathisen | Lionyx, that should be otherway around realy... should be cooler in bios and then get hotter when used |
| 12:12.42 | Mathisen | so strange..... |
| 12:13.46 | quantic | Mathisen: I've seen cases on some systems where the system would heat up significantly when in the OS (sensor issue), then upon a restart, the sensor fixes itself. Fans quiet during POST, then as soon as the OS takes over, ramps up to about "jet engine" level to cool everything off. |
| 12:14.48 | deepy | That's also the default mode in some laptops |
| 12:15.11 | deepy | nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, JET ENGINE, rinse and repeat |
| 12:15.58 | Mathisen | most machines i used there is " jet engine " on boot and the nice and quiet when os start :) |
| 12:16.21 | Lionyx | deepy: Mathisen anyway, i'm getting new thermal paste today, I hope it gets better :D |
| 12:16.56 | Mathisen | Lionyx, tip " Arctic Silver " |
| 12:17.03 | Mathisen | Lionyx, good thermal paste |
| 12:18.21 | Lionyx | tks! i guess that's the one the guy i taked about uses on his overclock mods. tks god i know him, this stuff is a lot harder to get as a shelf item where I live, would be at least 2 weeks waiting for mail. |
| 12:18.28 | Lionyx | talked* |
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| 12:26.04 | virgosun | ? |
| 12:26.12 | radonx | hello |
| 12:26.20 | virgosun | hi |
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| 12:27.09 | radonx | when i do "debugfs ls - l /home/daisy/eenD" it gives "filesystem not open" |
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| 12:29.54 | jelly | radonx: what did you expect it to do? |
| 12:30.29 | radonx | give inode/filename of the directory file |
| 12:30.41 | jelly | debugfs is supposed to work on a block device containing a filesystem, or an image containing a filesystem |
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| 12:31.10 | jelly | radonx: you really want to provide that [ device ] parameter seen in the manual page. |
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| 12:32.04 | jelly | radonx: and if you want to run a single command, you probably want to use -R |
| 12:32.14 | radonx | thanks |
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| 12:34.40 | jelly | radonx: note that paths given are relative to the mount point, so if you have /dev/sda6 usually mounted at /home, you'd probably want to do something like »debugfs -R 'ls -l /daisy/eenD' /dev/sda6« |
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| 12:35.47 | radonx | thanks |
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| 12:37.52 | radonx | 'thanks |
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| 12:39.24 | cVsup | Hi all! Somebody know why xdmcp in gdm3 listen only in udp6? |
| 12:39.44 | cVsup | i use debian 8.2 |
| 12:40.24 | carp_ | Do you guys just use control+alt+f2 when you want to use command line? Rather than a graphical terminal within gnome? |
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| 12:41.54 | Stummi | carp_, only if I want to know why my X just froze or something similar ;) |
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| 12:42.53 | carp_ | Stummi: do you use the graphical terminal most of the time then? Do you summon it with a keyboard shortcut? |
| 12:43.14 | Stummi | carp_, yes |
| 12:43.28 | Stummi | "win+c c" spawns an urxvt on my desktop |
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| 12:45.11 | cVsup | Somebody know why xdmcp in gdm3 listen only in udp6? |
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| 12:47.10 | carp_ | its seems alt+f2 then typing gnome-terminal is a bit too time consuming. Ive saved the terminal to favourites in the left side bar now, so its only 2 clicks. I dunno, seems it could be easier by default. |
| 12:48.23 | jelly | cVsup: what netstat shows as :::* on udp6 or tcp6 actually means "both ipv4 and ipv6 all addresses" |
| 12:48.24 | rabbitear | all things that are easier by default, you never really knowning anything weird |
| 12:48.32 | Nomads | Try editing gai.conf to give IPv4 the priotry. There's a line near to bottom you need to uncomment. Maybe that might help |
| 12:48.56 | rabbitear | and knowning weird stuff, its actually where its at carp_ |
| 12:49.04 | jelly | Nomads: there's absolutely no need to mess with gai.conf |
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| 12:50.03 | Nomads | jelly, might be so but that helped me in many cases. But sure... Mine was just an uneducated guess |
| 12:50.18 | sakal | hi, at last few days I have not any updates on debian sid from mirror.yandex.ru. It's some debian sid freeze or just broken mirror? |
| 12:50.55 | carp_ | rabbitear: i dont understand your statements. |
| 12:51.19 | rabbitear | carp_: try |
| 12:51.32 | rabbitear | carp_: its funny |
| 12:52.08 | carp_ | rabbitear: what I mean is, its lost in translation. I dont understand your sentence structure, order of words etc. |
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| 12:52.36 | Stummi | carp_, use a WM/DM which allows you to configure global shortcuts freely (I would assume all can do that somehow) |
| 12:52.42 | rabbitear | carp_: we'll move on to something else then |
| 12:52.44 | Stummi | and than put your terminal to whatever keystroke you want |
| 12:53.27 | rabbitear | carp_: what kind of car do you own? |
| 12:53.40 | talin | hello. when i try to install mutt on my server, it wants to install a bunch of stuff like xinerama, which i think only works in xorg? |
| 12:53.43 | Stummi | carp_, the need to use your mouse to access a common task is a huge productivity killer |
| 12:53.47 | talin | is there a way to skip x-related stuff? |
| 12:54.19 | carp_ | Stummi: i duck duck go wm and dm, not sure what that stands for. window manager? |
| 12:54.22 | rabbitear | talin: no doens't need that |
| 12:54.40 | rabbitear | talin: its something else that you are pulling off the repos |
| 12:55.02 | rabbitear | talin: in debian |
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| 12:55.11 | themill | talin: it would help if you were more precise in your question |
| 12:55.13 | talin | rabbitear: apt-get install mutt |
| 12:55.16 | carp_ | rabbitear: 'what car do i own' not sure thats important but i will humour you. i have a motorbike and a push bike, dont have a car. |
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| 12:55.35 | talin | gives me e.g.: libxinerama1 libxrandr2 libxrender1 |
| 12:55.43 | talin | and pinentry-gtk2 |
| 12:55.50 | talin | which sounds like GUI things |
| 12:55.50 | Stummi | carp_, wm is Window Manager. dm is Desktop Manager |
| 12:56.03 | Stummi | (I think its actually called DE - Desktop Environment) |
| 12:56.11 | rabbitear | carp_: do you know what is important already :) |
| 12:56.13 | themill | talin: which release of debian? |
| 12:56.26 | carp_ | Stummi: im using gnome 3, debian 8 install |
| 12:56.37 | rabbitear | carp_: just as long as you're read up its okay |
| 12:56.40 | Stummi | okay. Don't know anything about gnome |
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| 12:57.08 | rabbitear | this is: the I don't know channel. |
| 12:57.22 | talin | themill: latest jessie |
| 12:57.26 | themill | talin: try installing pinentry-curses first |
| 12:57.29 | Stummi | I stopped using gnome as my desktop around the time where gnome 3 got released, I think |
| 12:57.52 | rabbitear | i3 has been fun |
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| 12:58.17 | talin | themill: huh, with that installed it skips all the x stuff |
| 12:58.27 | carp_ | rabbitear: "do you know what is important already :)" is that a question or a statement? you are very confusing. |
| 12:58.29 | talin | themill: how on earth would someone come to that conclusion? |
| 12:58.42 | Nomads | talin, try apt-get install --no-install-recommends mutt |
| 12:58.53 | themill | recommends have nothing to do with this; aptitude why mutt pinentry-gtk2 |
| 12:59.23 | rabbitear | carp_: you say what you're feelings are first, its a good way to get to know you |
| 12:59.26 | carp_ | Stummi: Ah ok. I looked in gnome keyboard shortcuts. I dont see a option to set a shortcut for open a terminal. |
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| 12:59.44 | rabbitear | carp_: and also the root of your confusion |
| 13:00.07 | Nomads | Try downloading the deb package and install with --force-depends then? |
| 13:00.36 | rabbitear | carp_: you need to ask me harder questions |
| 13:00.54 | Nomads | Or was it ignore-depends :P |
| 13:01.04 | Stummi | carp_, as said, I don't know much about gnome. Maybe its just not possible there |
| 13:01.43 | rabbitear | carp_: its like comming from Mars sometimes |
| 13:01.59 | rabbitear | carp_: but thats actually normal, its okay |
| 13:02.01 | carp_ | Stummi: thanks for the help. If anyone else knows let me know. |
| 13:02.32 | rabbitear | carp_: not everybody saw your question |
| 13:03.21 | themill | Nomads: (a) silly (b) creates problems for later (c) not relevant in any case |
| 13:04.01 | carp_ | rabbitear: Im trying to get a keyboard shortcut in gnome 3 debian 8 to get a graphical terminal up. |
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| 13:04.19 | rabbitear | Nomads: force and ignore is probably about to brake stuff |
| 13:04.59 | rabbitear | carp_: use the mouse |
| 13:05.06 | Nomads | Well, if you need just that package, other than compiling it yourself, I don't remember any other option. |
| 13:05.11 | rabbitear | carp_: I say that because for a reason |
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| 13:05.45 | rabbitear | carp_: which is, thats not what you see in your own mind |
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| 13:09.46 | carp_ | rabbitear: I have a feeling that you are trying to be rude about me but I genuinely dont understand what your are saying. I have a feeling you are saying Im being lazy about learning, and simply asking questions here rather than reading manual. The truth is I have searched and read about things before I come here. And when someone gives me a hint, I search engine it straight away etc. |
| 13:10.06 | jelly | Nomads: --force-depends breaks apt, so is seldom a good long term solution |
| 13:10.38 | carp_ | I think its ok to say here in this chat that I find it surprisingly hard to get a terminal up in gnome and that I think its a bit silly. |
| 13:11.31 | Mathisen | carp_, apt-get install guake |
| 13:11.34 | rabbitear | carp_: then things will get done when we cut out these politics and people feelings |
| 13:11.41 | Mathisen | carp_, then you have console on f12 |
| 13:11.48 | Mathisen | easy and nice looking |
| 13:12.02 | carp_ | Mathisen: thanks for the suggestion, i will look into that. |
| 13:12.26 | rabbitear | carp_: thats a windows way, its you're fault because I feel bad, for some odd reason |
| 13:12.45 | rabbitear | carp_: no work ethic |
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| 13:13.17 | radonx | how do i change umask? in /etc/profile is no umask |
| 13:13.41 | rabbitear | umash 022 <-- ex |
| 13:13.46 | rabbitear | mask |
| 13:14.06 | rabbitear | its complex because you have to flip the bits |
| 13:14.31 | rabbitear | forgot, that might be the bits you don't want |
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| 13:15.51 | radonx | http://pastebin.com/gdGu8s4X |
| 13:16.55 | jelly | !set default umask |
| 13:16.55 | dpkg | it has been said that set default umask is see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo -- in short: /etc/login.defs: UMASK 002; /etc/pam.d/common-session: session optional pam_umask.so umask=0002; and note gdm has a bug, so /etc/gdm/Xsession: umask 002 |
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| 13:17.20 | jelly | that... might be a bit outdated |
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| 13:17.42 | carp_ | rabbitear: 'no work ethic' Ah finally you have revealed what you are saying. hmm, I would say that you have forgotten what its like to be a beginner. People who are new are anxious about breaking things and sometimes they feel out of their depth, dont know where to start. But look, its simple, if you dont want to help me, thats fine. Im going for lunch now bye. |
| 13:17.56 | themill | jelly: looks right to me |
| 13:17.57 | rabbitear | wait |
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| 13:18.01 | rabbitear | I mean that carp_ |
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| 13:18.41 | rabbitear | have a good lunch brother CrazyEddy |
| 13:18.47 | rabbitear | or carp_ |
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| 13:19.25 | rabbitear | carp_: don't let anybody see you install linux on a customers machine |
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| 13:21.18 | jelly | rabbitear: please be nice to newbies |
| 13:22.05 | rabbitear | I'm always nice |
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| 13:35.13 | jelly | carp_: I don't use gnome, and keep terminals to different servers in predefined places of different virtual desktops open the whole time. One of them is a local terminal, also always open and present. |
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| 13:44.20 | radonx | what is the right syntax to add a new user, using "man adduser", i tried alot but it failed |
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| 13:48.12 | themill | radonx: "adduser username" |
| 13:49.01 | radonx | when i do, it gives the hole help file about adduser |
| 13:49.37 | themill | pastebin of command and output or it didn't happen |
| 13:49.48 | petn-randall | was about to say. |
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| 13:51.11 | zykotick9 | radonx: note, "man SOMETHING" shows the manual page (help file) for that SOMETHING... |
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| 13:51.57 | radonx | man command means show helpfile? |
| 13:52.37 | radonx | wauw |
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| 14:03.42 | Kagetsuki | hello, I'm a maintainer of the new 3 series of apngasm and I've been trying to get a debian maintainer to update the packages. Thus far I've gotten no responses and I've been trying on and off for quite a while now. Can anybody help me get the pacakges updated to the new series? |
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| 14:05.16 | abrotman | Kagetsuki: have you managed to create the packages on your own? or you'd prefer the maintainer do it? |
| 14:05.52 | themill | Kagetsuki: the first step would normally be to file a wishlist bug requesting that the package be updated. |
| 14:05.58 | Kagetsuki | there have been packages building for quite a while now |
| 14:06.03 | Kagetsuki | I did that |
| 14:06.21 | Kagetsuki | the previous maintainer has abandoned the package |
| 14:06.28 | themill | There's no bug in the bts |
| 14:06.55 | Kagetsuki | perhaps I reported in the wrong place then? can you tell me specifically where to report? |
| 14:07.30 | themill | Kagetsuki: do you have a debian box? |
| 14:07.49 | Kagetsuki | yes |
| 14:07.54 | themill | !reportbug |
| 14:07.55 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 14:08.08 | Kagetsuki | oooh, cool |
| 14:08.15 | Kagetsuki | I'll give this a shot! Thanks! |
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| 14:54.30 | majest1c | Maybe this isnt so much debian-related but I have a server that runs debian, but if I were to host some kind of VPN solution how would that work? I presume that it would use my own IP adress? |
| 14:54.33 | anexit | hi |
| 14:55.07 | anexit | Silly question, is there a web interface that behaves like so (upload a file no matter the size, random link is generated?) |
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| 14:56.13 | abrotman | like pastebin, but for binary objects? |
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| 14:57.26 | anexit | I think I found something "PRoject Send" |
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| 15:01.02 | asti | hello. I need to run a command as a sudo user. How do I achieve this? |
| 15:01.20 | blind | sudo command |
| 15:01.47 | asti | blind: no I'm not the sudo. I'm user Y and user X is the sudo. |
| 15:02.01 | jordanm | asti: you need to be user X |
| 15:02.10 | blind | You're trying to run it as user X, or with root privs? |
| 15:02.19 | vamps | sudo -u <user> command |
| 15:02.35 | asti | jordanm: either way. I just need to restart apache. |
| 15:04.34 | asti | vamps: I'm doing it programmatically. And the system tells me "wrong password". |
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| 15:05.07 | asti | I do echo "password" | sudo -S -u "asti2" "/etc/init.d/apache restart" |
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| 15:05.42 | vamps | asti: 1) you can't do that 2) simply do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart" |
| 15:06.58 | asti | vamps: I'm not in the sudoers list. I need to somehow execute this command as user asti2 who is in the sudoers list. Or how do you typically achieve this? |
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| 15:08.06 | vamps | asti: loggin with the user asti2 and : sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 15:08.10 | jordanm | asti: configure your sudoers file to accomplish what you need |
| 15:08.11 | jordanm | asti: if you don't have the access, you don't have the access |
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| 15:09.10 | asti | I'm doing this programmatically. How can I login as another user in my program? |
| 15:09.17 | asti | I'm usinb ash |
| 15:09.18 | asti | bash |
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| 15:09.49 | vamps | asti: jordanm gave you the solution |
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| 15:10.31 | vamps | the user that starts the command must be authorized with the sudoers file |
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| 15:11.57 | jordanm | and in your case with NOPASSWD, since you are wanting to do it non-interactively |
| 15:12.36 | vamps | asti: you try to use sudo with an user not authorized in order to use an other user authorized by sudo, this is nonsense |
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| 15:15.53 | majest1c | I use "ls /etc/init.d/" and lists all my services, then I find my service name and use "service name restart" but it doesnt do anything |
| 15:16.11 | majest1c | I dont get a response |
| 15:17.02 | ewew | majest1c Are you sure the service you are restarting has a case restart in its file ? |
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| 15:17.35 | Harm133 | Could also be it won't output something, just restart |
| 15:17.50 | majest1c | ewew apt-get install pptpd , it should have a restart |
| 15:18.11 | Harm133 | and if you try /etd/init.d/pptpd restart ? |
| 15:18.20 | majest1c | yes I wrote service before that though |
| 15:18.38 | majest1c | I skipped 'service' and it worked now, thanks guys¨ |
| 15:19.31 | Harm133 | Ah :) if you are gonna restart a service, you can write "service pptpd restart" and not "service /etc/init.d/pptpd restart" as I'm assuming that's what you did ? |
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| 15:20.10 | ewew | majest1c looks like it does not have echo to tty. Check the /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 15:20.55 | majest1c | Harm133 and ewew it worked now, I just wrote "/etc/init.d/pptpd restart" |
| 15:21.19 | Harm133 | majest1c:Very well :) |
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| 15:27.56 | majesticc | I guess I _HAVE_ to locate my server elsewhere in order to get my VPN to use other IP-adresses than my original one? |
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| 15:54.03 | Slumlord_ | there certain printers debian os simply won't work with |
| 15:54.05 | Slumlord_ | ? |
| 15:54.20 | Slumlord_ | or is it user error |
| 15:54.43 | gephorian | Using cups? http://www.openprinting.org/printers |
| 15:54.51 | Slumlord_ | yes |
| 15:54.56 | Slumlord_ | installed cups |
| 15:55.10 | gephorian | Not all printers work with cups |
| 15:55.17 | gephorian | Check compatibility at the website |
| 15:55.47 | Slumlord_ | correct |
| 15:55.48 | jelly | Slumlord_: it's best to verify the printer has native Postscript or PCL support and free drivers for Linux, before choosing and buying the hardware |
| 15:55.49 | Slumlord_ | i don't see model |
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| 15:56.01 | Slumlord_ | i don't see my model at all listed |
| 15:56.17 | jelly | that's not a good sign |
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| 15:56.31 | Slumlord_ | canon imageclass d530 |
| 15:56.33 | gephorian | Probably won't work without drivers from the manufacturer (nonfree) |
| 15:56.40 | jelly | but yeah, some printers just don't work on linux |
| 15:57.08 | jelly | and some don't even have vendor or any kind of driver for linux |
| 15:57.20 | gephorian | This printer does have manufacturer provided drivers |
| 15:57.43 | gephorian | Slumlord: You'll have to install those to get it working, beyond that I don't know how to get it configured |
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| 16:27.08 | asti | vamps: cool. I simply added my user to the sudoers. Thanks for the tip. I think that a user should be able to execute a command as another user (a sudo user in this case). But whatever. It works. ;) thanks!! |
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| 16:31.49 | nichdel | asti, you can use 'su [username]' to run commands as a specific user |
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| 16:32.06 | nichdel | 'su' by itself will switch to root |
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| 16:39.36 | linuxd | though windows was completely and cleanly shutdown.I can only mount the windows partition as read only.why is that? |
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| 16:39.53 | zerothis1 | my computers don't see my nfs shares. the server computer doesn't see my nfs shares |
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| 16:41.48 | klysm | linuxd, fuse? |
| 16:42.11 | jelly | linuxd: which version if windows was that? |
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| 16:42.44 | jelly | consumer versions 8 and above supposedly never actually shut down in a clean way |
| 16:43.02 | linuxd | klysm:how? jelly:windows 10 home sdition |
| 16:43.28 | jelly | but I don't know enough to confirm that |
| 16:43.36 | klysm | linuxd, modprobe fuse |
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| 16:45.03 | jelly | zerothis1: if you run "showmount -e your-nfs-server-ip" on an nfs client machine which does not "see the shares", is there any output? |
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| 16:45.38 | jelly | zerothis1: which OS and release on the nfs server exporting the shares? |
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| 16:46.26 | waressearcher2 | is there command line tool to upload files to google drive or dropbox from coomand line to use in scripts ? |
| 16:46.28 | linuxd | klysm: " |
| 16:46.32 | linuxd | lsmod |grep fuse |
| 16:46.32 | linuxd | fuse 86016 3 " still windows wouldn't mount rw |
| 16:46.58 | klysm | linuxd, make sure you mount using the ntfs-3g package |
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| 16:48.19 | linuxd | klysm: you mean like this? "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb3 /media/deepblue/windows10tp/" |
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| 16:49.14 | klysm | linuxd. dpkg -l | grep ntfs; dpkg -L pachagename | grep sbin; man commandname; commandname /dev/sdb3 /media/... |
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| 16:51.11 | markybob | linuxd, yes. you might want to try ntfsfix -d /dev/sdb3 first |
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| 16:58.33 | linuxd | markybob: ok,thanx |
| 16:58.40 | zerothis1 | jelly: -s 192.168.1.1 shows "clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Unable to recieve errno 111 (connection refused)" |
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| 17:00.06 | jelly | zerothis1: -s ? |
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| 17:01.17 | zerothis1 | sorry showmount -e |
| 17:01.23 | jelly | zerothis1: rpcbind (or portmap) needs to be running at both the client and the server |
| 17:01.56 | jelly | zerothis1: does "showmount -e 0" on the nfs server itself work? |
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| 17:04.14 | zerothis1 | jelly: Export list for 0: & /usr/share/roms 192.168.1.*,192.168.1.1,192.168.1.0 . if i run rpcbind it says "rpcbind: another rpcbind is already running. Aborting" |
| 17:05.05 | zerothis1 | all my linuxum say rpcbind is already running |
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| 17:05.49 | jelly | zerothis1: okay. which OS and release (version) do you have on the nfs server? |
| 17:06.04 | zerothis1 | ubuntu trusty |
| 17:06.47 | jelly | zerothis1: and which OS and release on the client? |
| 17:07.09 | zerothis1 | 1 client is a debianish thing (because it's 25 years old). other clients debian and ubuntu |
| 17:07.26 | zerothis1 | jelly: ubuntu trusty is the nfs server |
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| 17:08.37 | jelly | zerothis1: does "rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.1" from the debian client show any response? |
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| 17:09.45 | jelly | (usually a list of services, versions and ports assigned) |
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| 17:10.07 | ablegreen_w | Need tool recommendations for setting up a _private_ debian package repository. Reprepro? |
| 17:10.23 | zerothis1 | jelly: "rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused" |
| 17:10.29 | jelly | ablegreen_w: that seems to be the common choice around here, yes |
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| 17:11.17 | ablegreen_w | jelly: Okay thanks. A bit confused on what PPA is? According to Wikipedia, it says it's hosted on Launchpad? Want it to be private though. |
| 17:11.26 | jelly | zerothis1: investigate firewall issues and access from the client to nfs server, udp and tcp port 111 (that's rpcbind or portmap, depending on the OS) |
| 17:11.28 | zerothis1 | jelly: all clients same response |
| 17:12.01 | jelly | zerothis1: you'll have to ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server about OS-specific configuration for firewall there |
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| 17:12.58 | zerothis1 | seems to be 10003 here |
| 17:13.17 | jelly | rpcbind itself is always on port 111 |
| 17:13.59 | jelly | ablegreen_w: PPA is a service provided by Canonical to allow automated building and redistribution. They only build for ubuntu distros, and the resulting repos are usually public. |
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| 17:15.05 | ablegreen_w | jelly: Ah okay thanks. |
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| 17:19.12 | the_weanus | ablegreen_w: you may want to look at aptly. http://www.aptly.info/ |
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| 17:19.54 | jelly | !own repo |
| 17:19.55 | dpkg | To feed your own packages into apt, you need to create a repository with a Packages file that lists the packages. If you only have a few packages and don't have very sophisticated requirements, you can use <dpkg-scanpackages>. If you want to be able add/remove packages using regular Debian tools like dput then try <reprepro> or mini-dinstall. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
| 17:19.57 | jelly | !aptly |
| 17:19.57 | dpkg | i guess aptly is a swiss army knife for Debian repository management: it allows to mirror remote repositories, manage local package repositories, take snapshots, pull new versions of packages along with dependencies, publish as Debian repository. http://www.aptly.info/ |
| 17:20.30 | shebangbash | is there some sort of blocking flag for dpkg? I understand the complexity package managers need to address, but is there some way of blocking to wait for the lock to release? |
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| 17:25.04 | ablegreen_w | the_weanus: jelly: Any way to restrict access to a package repo? |
| 17:25.11 | ablegreen_w | Like add a password or something |
| 17:25.52 | the_weanus | we just firewall off our private repo to all but our remote locations. |
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| 17:26.30 | the_weanus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:26.45 | jelly | ablegreen_w: http basic auth works in sources.list |
| 17:26.59 | ablegreen_w | the_weanus: Gah, don't want to keep track of IP addresses. |
| 17:27.04 | ablegreen_w | jelly: Oh okay will look into it. |
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| 17:27.51 | jelly | ablegreen_w: and if the clients install apt-transport-https you can do deb https://username:password@host/... |
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| 17:28.29 | jelly | seen commercial vendors use that for their repos |
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| 17:29.04 | zerothis2 | jelly: the only firewall is in my router and that's external only. ntl i've fowarded the ports to no effect. i've confirmed my ports are nfs 2049 , rpcbind 111 , |
| 17:29.17 | ablegreen_w | jelly: Okay thanks! |
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| 17:31.11 | jelly | zerothis2: I don't want to guess about ubuntu's firewall or nfs-kernel-server setup. Ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server. |
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| 17:35.12 | zerothis2 | jelly: no firewall here. nfs-kernel-server is currently no passwords guests allowed all users and "nobody" user |
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| 17:37.46 | Cerealkill3r | Can someone help me with some errors while running apt-get update ? http://pastebin.com/vw1wdhCa |
| 17:38.08 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 17:38.09 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:38.37 | petn-randall | Cerealkill3r: Only the error won't help much, it helps to paste the /full/ output including the actual command. And the information above. |
| 17:38.54 | Cerealkill3r | petn-randall, Sure,just a second |
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| 17:39.25 | petn-randall | Cerealkill3r: But from the likes of it, it looks like that PPA doesn't support jessie. It would surprise me if it did. |
| 17:39.33 | ewew | Cerealkill3r Looks like the repository does not exist. |
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| 17:39.45 | petn-randall | !ppa |
| 17:39.45 | dpkg | [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>. |
| 17:39.46 | Cerealkill3r | http://pastebin.com/s1t2AbUe |
| 17:40.01 | Cerealkill3r | ewew, Should i remove them out of the sources.list ? |
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| 17:40.42 | ewew | Cerealkill3r Depends if you have other entries pointing to debian repository. |
| 17:40.49 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: please put the output of commands 2. and 3. dpkg asked above, into the same pastebin |
| 17:41.16 | jelly | or at least 3. |
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| 17:43.22 | Cerealkill3r | jelly, http://pastebin.com/tvrzZ99f |
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| 17:43.56 | jelly | it's unlikely a ppa repo would have builds made specifically for debian releases, but I guess it's technically possible |
| 17:44.27 | ewew | Cerealkill3r From my point of view the link to that repo is bad. |
| 17:44.34 | Cerealkill3r | jelly, So in this case,what can I do to get rid of those warnings when running an update |
| 17:45.59 | jelly | Cerealkill3r: eh, find and comment out or delete the relevant repo definition in any of these files: /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |
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| 17:48.09 | Cerealkill3r | jelly, http://pastebin.com/vnJQcgzF here's my sources.list file,I can't see the relevant definition in there ^__^ if you may help me please |
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| 17:49.39 | ewew | Cerealkill3r Please post the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder. |
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| 17:50.27 | Cerealkill3r | http://pastebin.com/u2YhdbAM |
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| 17:50.59 | Cerealkill3r | oh,never mind,found it |
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| 17:51.26 | Cerealkill3r | working like a charm,thanks for the time guys :) |
| 17:51.32 | ewew | Cerealkill3r Just going to ask for contents of directhex-ppa-jessie.list. |
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| 17:52.02 | jelly | seeing as you have some other mono stuff, it might be a leftover |
| 17:52.06 | Cerealkill3r | ewew, It was in there,I commented the line that was causing the warning,and it works well now |
| 17:52.29 | Cerealkill3r | jelly, I have mono runtime installed as I need to do some c# stuff |
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| 17:52.54 | ewew | Cerealkill3r If you can correct the URL it might work. |
| 17:52.56 | jelly | unfortunately directhex does not visit too often these days to comment |
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| 17:53.59 | Cerealkill3r | "This PPA should be used for testing changes to the Mono stack, pre-release package versions, etc." |
| 17:54.31 | sine0 | network devices I have eth0 , lo and vboxnet0 which is oracle virtual machine. as it stands It cant connect to the internet, and I was wondering if I could setup a squidproxy for it to use in the virtual machines browser |
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| 17:55.12 | sine0 | or what I wanted to learn was a way of "all traffice from vboxnet0 goes to the internet via eth0" |
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| 17:55.29 | sine0 | but i wonder how it deals with the traffic when it comes back to my main machine |
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| 17:56.22 | ewew | Cerealkill3r Is your problem solved ? |
| 17:57.12 | somiaj | sine0: what did you use to create vboxnet0? I belive you can just use iptables with NAT (ipmasq) and forward the trafic from the virtual net to the real network via connenction sharing (that is how libvirt sets it up, I'm surprised virtualbox doesn't set this all up) |
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| 17:58.07 | Cerealkill3r | ewew, Yes,thanks to you and jelly |
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| 17:58.27 | sine0 | somiaj: vboxnet0 was setup from oracles virtualbox software already. I am probably doing it all wrong as they say |
| 17:58.31 | ewew | Cerealkill3r np. |
| 17:58.33 | teraflops | sine0: setup the squid in the host and do not use bridged network in the guest, as somiaj says |
| 17:58.50 | teraflops | use nat instead |
| 17:58.59 | sine0 | ok i will have a little play |
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| 17:59.33 | somiaj | sine0: there are various ways to go about this. Some use nat between the networks. Some actually just use a bridge (and this way the vms are on the actual network and not the virtual network). I think using the proxy isn't that common to use, but I don't see why you couldn't use a proxy. |
| 18:00.24 | sine0 | yes i was half curious about setting it up to work, i know there is a bridged way, but you know how it is when you want to learn something, always the hard way but fun way |
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| 18:00.51 | teraflops | ewew: btw you can also do the opposite and setup a VM as fw for the host but that's another history |
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| 18:01.50 | ewew | teraflops I think you responded to wrong nick. |
| 18:02.04 | teraflops | ewew: right, sorry |
| 18:02.13 | ewew | teraflops np |
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| 18:05.30 | sine0 | at some point I want to be able to packet sniff the vm so i think i would need to setup a loop or proxy other than bridged |
| 18:05.45 | jundo | Hello. i have an error message " Failed to open "Windows Network". Failed to retrieve share list from server." in Debian xfce-thunar |
| 18:06.08 | MyWay | hello, I've just upgraded to jessie, on wheezy when I restarted a service or something I got messages from the shell, but I'm not getting these messages anymore on jessie, why? like "[ ok ] Restarting MTA: exim4." |
| 18:06.17 | jundo | i have installed smbclient and gvfs |
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| 18:06.34 | greycat | MyWay: systemctl is silent when it sends a request to an existing service |
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| 18:07.08 | MyWay | so if it doesn't say nothing it's ok, elsewhere it says something |
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| 18:07.44 | greycat | It's actually indeterminate at the time systemctl finishes. All it does is pass a request to systemd. You have to check later to see if the thing has started up or not. |
| 18:08.00 | somiaj | not always, systemctl is annoyingly quiet. It sometimes says nothing and it doens't mean everything is okay. Run systemctl status service to see more info. |
| 18:08.18 | jundo | What did i do wrong? |
| 18:08.47 | ewew | I think i read somewhere that systemd can be set to display more messages on boot. |
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| 18:09.00 | jelly | is there a command that sends the restart, waits until it succeeds or fails, and returns some output (even if it's just a $?) |
| 18:09.01 | greycat | This is becoming one of the most frequently asked questions, at least with respect to systemd. I wonder if the systemd devs are planning to change it (at least make a "wait for success/failure and report" option). |
| 18:09.22 | greycat | jelly, dunno. |
| 18:09.38 | Hello71 | systemctl *does* wait. |
| 18:09.40 | MyWay | yes, it's bad |
| 18:09.55 | jelly | because "I've successfully sent an async signal to do what you meant" isn't exactly useful |
| 18:09.57 | Hello71 | however, if the service uses Type=simple, then there is nothing to wait *for*. |
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| 18:10.20 | Hello71 | see man systemctl, --no-block |
| 18:10.24 | somiaj | the issue I ran across is I kept trying to start a service (because I had reloaded the .service file due to a bug) and systemctl kept telling me nothing. Took me way to long to figure out that systemctl start will do nothing to a service that systemd thinks is running. I would hav eloved some output. "service is running...aborting." |
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| 18:10.56 | greycat | man page says to use "systemctl show" for parseable output |
| 18:11.18 | greycat | I guess you can grep for ^ActiveState= |
| 18:11.28 | jelly | somiaj: but did it successfully do nothing or did it exit with non-zero status! |
| 18:11.58 | Hello71 | if the service uses Type=simple then you can wait for some timeout, but there is no magic solution, because the *default case* is to return immediately. |
| 18:12.09 | greycat | yes, that's what we are talking about. |
| 18:12.28 | Hello71 | what would you want systemd to wait for? |
| 18:12.35 | somiaj | jelly: it sucesffuly did nothing. Took me about 5 hours to figure out I had to stop the service before starting it again to get my new .service file to take effect. |
| 18:12.51 | jelly | /o\ |
| 18:13.03 | Hello71 | that is arguably a systemd bug, although returning an error exit would be the wrong thing to do. |
| 18:13.22 | Hello71 | I would conjecture that there is a filed bug or at least a mailing list post on this issue, but my browser is not currently working. |
| 18:13.38 | greycat | Hello71: People want it to wait for about 0.1 seconds, check the status, see if it's running; it it is, great, REPORT that and exit. Otherwise, wait for another second, try again. If it's not running, either report failure and exit, or continue waiting (not sure which one people would want more). |
| 18:13.44 | ewew | Got it. Here http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.html |
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| 18:14.14 | ewew | see kernel command line. |
| 18:14.21 | Hello71 | what do you mean "running"? the service starts "running" as soon as execve() finishes. |
| 18:14.25 | somiaj | Hello71: yea I'm unsure what the problem was. I had a bug in my .service file so my service failed to start (I could tell this becuase it wasn't running). But systemd thought it was running. Once i was told to look at systemctl status service it all became clear (Just a learning curve) |
| 18:14.52 | Hello71 | somiaj: yes, I think it would be better to print a diagnostic message. |
| 18:14.54 | greycat | Hello71: if systemd hasn't got that far within the first 0.1 sec, then hopefully the 1.0 sec wait will get it there. |
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| 18:15.24 | Hello71 | so then in what case would you report failure? |
| 18:15.46 | nikoma | Hi, deleting form autocomplete history doesn't work in iceweasel for me |
| 18:15.47 | greycat | If the status is not "active (running)" after 1 second, or if the status is "dead" (whatever the actual wording is). |
| 18:15.49 | jelly | presumably the author of the unit definition can define precisely what "service is running" means |
| 18:15.53 | Hello71 | if the executable does not exist at all, I believe systemctl already reports failure to start. |
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| 18:15.56 | nikoma | I am running Debian Jessie Stable |
| 18:16.01 | nikoma | any idea what could be the problem? |
| 18:16.12 | greycat | People just want confirmation that the thing is actually running, and not DOA. |
| 18:16.23 | somiaj | Hello71: I'm unsure on that part, since I don't kow the details of how systemctl works with systemd. I just know I find its output lacking. But just like many things I can complain and have no idea of a solution. |
| 18:16.27 | greycat | If it crashes 5 seconds later, hey, that's how the cookie crumbles. |
| 18:16.32 | Hello71 | I don't think you understand. in Type=simple services, systemd has nothing to check after the process forks. |
| 18:16.43 | greycat | It can check that the managed PID is actually running. |
| 18:16.46 | Hello71 | I do not personally want systemctl to hang for 5 seconds every time I start something. |
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| 18:16.53 | Hello71 | (successfully) |
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| 18:17.02 | greycat | That's why I suggested 1 second **AS A BLOODY OPTION** not as the default. |
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| 18:17.22 | jelly | greycat: that could be put into the compat "/usr/sbin/service" wrapper |
| 18:17.29 | greycat | aye, that it could |
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| 18:18.08 | ewew | Does anyone read the link a posted about systemd ? |
| 18:18.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | i didn't. |
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| 18:18.32 | somiaj | Hello71: now that I know where to look for the info I want, I don't find it that much of an issue. But alas, just a learning curve, and neck beards can too be old, grumpy and set in their ways. |
| 18:18.35 | greycat | The man page? Why would I read that? is it different from Debian's man page? What PART OF THE MAN PAGE did you expect us to read? |
| 18:18.50 | greycat | Give us a hint. |
| 18:19.03 | ewew | the kernel command line. i posted it earlier. |
| 18:19.18 | ewew | nevermind. |
| 18:19.32 | greycat | What if you're not on the literal console? |
| 18:19.37 | greycat | What if you're sshed in? |
| 18:19.55 | greycat | What if you're in X? |
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| 18:20.06 | Hello71 | so you want /usr/bin/start-and-wait: "systemctl start $1 && sleep 1 && [[ $(systemctl show systemd-logind) == *ActiveState=active* ]] || echo Service crashed after starting"? |
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| 18:20.29 | Hello71 | and if you want to read logs then just type journalctl -f & |
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| 18:20.34 | greycat | I proposed a slightly more sophisticated algorithm, but that's the idea. |
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| 18:20.53 | greycat | jelly proposed making that the default if you run "service" |
| 18:20.59 | Hello71 | OK then, glad we understand each other. |
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| 18:21.46 | ewew | I was talking about boot process. But i think it complains in daemon.log. |
| 18:22.01 | zincrokx | how to downlaod debian ? |
| 18:22.07 | greycat | We're talking about when someone manually issues a service restart command as root in a shell. |
| 18:22.16 | greycat | !tell zincrokx about netinstall |
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| 18:22.34 | planetmaker | zincrokx, visit website, hit download button? |
| 18:22.42 | greycat | zincrokx: or read the install guide if you want more details (lots, lots more) |
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| 18:22.59 | ewew | greycat ok, |
| 18:23.07 | zincrokx | i need image only dont want to install it says some cd/dvd image issue? |
| 18:23.27 | greycat | !tell zincrokx about install guide |
| 18:23.27 | Hello71 | you what? what are you trying to do |
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| 18:25.26 | zincrokx | k thnkx now i can deal with this |
| 18:25.39 | zincrokx | greycat,planetmaker. :) |
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| 18:29.07 | Thorn_ | Hi, I'm attempting to install debian on an NVMe SSD, but both jessie and stretch images fail to install grub. Checking the debug log, I see `grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /dev/nvme0n1p5`. Is there a workaround for this? |
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| 18:33.21 | finetundra2234 | hey guys, how do I start an xsession from an ssh conenction |
| 18:34.10 | greycat | Normally you wouldn't. If you just want to run one X client from the remote server against your local X server, use X11 Forwarding instead. |
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| 18:34.26 | finetundra2234 | greycat: very well, how would I do that then? |
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| 18:34.48 | greycat | Make sure X11Forwarding is set to yes in the server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config (restart ssh if necessary) and use "ssh -X" from the client. |
| 18:35.14 | greycat | !sshx |
| 18:35.14 | dpkg | You can run X11 apps securely over an ssh connection without <xhost> nor X TCP support. Enable X11Forwarding _on the remote server_ (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. See also <root x>, <cygwin sshx>, <3hosts sshx>. |
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| 18:36.51 | finetundra2234 | greycat: x11 forwarding is enabled but using ssh -X doesn't work |
| 18:37.08 | jundo | eveything works accept retrieving a list of shares |
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| 18:37.45 | finetundra2234 | jundo: what do you mean? |
| 18:38.03 | jundo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:39.24 | jundo | which part in debian handles this? |
| 18:40.23 | moop | guys, i have a package question - why does debian have both rxvt-unicode and rxvt-unicode-256color in the repository? i spent 1 hour trying to figure out what was wrong with my terminal |
| 18:41.03 | jundo | backward compatibility with older fonts? |
| 18:42.24 | centrx | jundo, "samba" |
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| 18:42.49 | centrx | moop, "This package is configured with 256-color support, and TERM set to "rxvt-unicode-256color". Any other systems you log into must have this terminfo entry installed!" |
| 18:43.00 | jundo | centrx: smbclient is installed |
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| 18:44.12 | moop | centrx: that explains it, but what system doesn't have terminfo in 2015 |
| 18:44.49 | greycat | one that's not from 2015. or not unix. |
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| 18:45.20 | moop | well it doesn't make me happy |
| 18:45.35 | moop | oh well, it's good enough of a reason |
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| 18:45.43 | centrx | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM |
| 18:46.01 | pofffs | hey guys I accidentally did "sudo chmod 444 /*" just a moment ago and now I can't get email. |
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| 18:46.08 | pofffs | i'm using clawsmail btw |
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| 18:46.55 | jelly | moop: lots of systems have terminfo. Not all have the terminfo entry for the specific definition |
| 18:46.58 | greycat | pofffs: most of the things in / should be 755 except /root (700) and /tmp (1777) |
| 18:47.04 | jundo | is it now neccesary to manually configure samba to work with win shares |
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| 18:48.02 | pofffs | greycat, thanks! |
| 18:48.03 | jundo | it used to work out of the box |
| 18:48.15 | w33d0pe | hi |
| 18:48.48 | w33d0pe | can anyone tell me how to activate cpu.cfs_period_us and cpu.cfs_quota_us on jessie? |
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| 18:54.00 | radonx | how do i permanent mount a filesystem? |
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| 18:54.18 | greycat | add an entry to /etc/fstab |
| 18:54.38 | jelly | dpkg, tell radonx about fstab |
| 18:54.42 | __marco | Hi. Can I know exactly which version of dpkg-dev was in debian stable in the 25/09/2014 |
| 18:54.47 | __marco | ? |
| 18:55.02 | greycat | marco, um... why? |
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| 18:55.16 | jelly | __marco: you may be able to glean that information from snapshot.debian.org |
| 18:55.23 | greycat | is it not enough to know that stable at that time was wheezy? |
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| 18:56.01 | jelly | __marco: pick a date, pick a release, and look at the relevant snapshot |
| 18:56.42 | __marco | greycat: I used to package a deb without a -revision part and now I cannot do it anymore. I saw that the bug #700177 could be the cause and I would like to investigate |
| 18:56.43 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/700177 in dpkg-dev (closed, patch): «dpkg-dev: please reject native/non-native version when building native/non-native source packages»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2013-02-09; last modified: 2014-01-03. |
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| 18:59.00 | jelly | __marco: which debian release were you using at the time? |
| 18:59.02 | __marco | jelly: wow. Sometime debian scares me |
| 18:59.06 | __marco | wheezy |
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| 18:59.12 | jelly | ,v dpkg-dev |
| 18:59.13 | judd | Package: dpkg-dev on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.15.11; squeeze-security: 1.15.11; squeeze-security-lts: 1.15.12; squeeze-backports: 1.16.9~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.16.16; wheezy-security: 1.16.16; jessie: 1.17.25; stretch: 1.18.3; sid: 1.18.3 |
| 18:59.43 | __marco | maybe jessie, I don't remember |
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| 18:59.46 | jelly | so... 1.16.16 or similar. The patch would not have been backported to stable. |
| 18:59.54 | jelly | jessie was testing at the time |
| 19:00.12 | __marco | it should be wheezy then |
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| 19:01.08 | radonx | can someone help me with file system http://imgur.com/jRrPk4V |
| 19:01.08 | Ghostbird | Hi guys, I've got something weird: I just installed EasyTag (media tag editor), and now when I select the Music folder from my Places applet, it will open the Music folder in Easytag instead of in Nemo. How can I fix that? I would like to keep EasyTag installed. |
| 19:01.41 | jelly | radonx: that looks like a homework question |
| 19:01.41 | Ghostbird | radonx Is this during a Debian install? |
| 19:01.45 | __marco | jelly: ok, that explains the error I get. Thanks |
| 19:01.55 | radonx | it is not a homework question |
| 19:02.32 | jelly | radonx: is it some other educational activity? |
| 19:02.45 | Ghostbird | If this were homework I would suggest you follow the parenthesised instructions in c. |
| 19:02.48 | quantic | that totally looks like a directed activity, yes. |
| 19:02.51 | greycat | why is it on imgur instead of a textual paste site? |
| 19:02.52 | Ghostbird | RTFM |
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| 19:04.15 | pofffs | i'm trying to install sylpheed and after ./configure, it says that it did not detect GTKSpell, but I just did make install for GTKSpell |
| 19:04.25 | teraflops | lel Imgur is over capacity! |
| 19:04.48 | jelly | radonx: but here's a hint: ext4 is the default filesystem type on Debian. the manual you want to RTFM is mkfs.ext4 manual. |
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| 19:05.01 | greycat | pofffs: is there a specific reason you're compiling sylpheed from source instead of using the Debian package? |
| 19:05.04 | jelly | ,v sylpheed |
| 19:05.06 | judd | Package: sylpheed on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.0.2-1; wheezy: 3.2.0-1; jessie: 3.5.0~beta1~r3426-1; stretch: 3.5.0~beta3-1; sid: 3.5.0~beta3-1+b1 |
| 19:05.07 | Ghostbird | Dont forget to "man partprobe" |
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| 19:05.57 | Thorn_ | Has anyone succeeeded in installing debian to an nvme device? |
| 19:05.59 | teraflops | reading the /fine/ manual is the best thing one can |
| 19:05.59 | greycat | pofffs: which is not to say you *can't*, but... I'm not familiar with that build process. You may have to run "./configure --help" and see if there's an option to specify WHERE the dependent packages are installed. |
| 19:06.17 | pofffs | greycat, ok, thanks. |
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| 19:07.30 | ocx | hello i cant mount my hardisk is this a hardware problem? http://pastie.org/10529608 |
| 19:07.38 | Ghostbird | pofffs: You could try to "export CFLAGS=<path to GTKSpell includes>" and "export LDFLAGS=<path to GTKSpell libraries>" but that's a quick'n-dirty approach. |
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| 19:08.38 | jelly | dpkg, tell ocx about ask |
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| 19:09.12 | greycat | It would be helpful to know what command produced that output, and what happens when you actually try to mount it. |
| 19:09.23 | Ghostbird | dpkg, tell Ghostbird about ask |
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| 19:10.04 | jelly | Ghostbird: also: /msg dpkg msg the bot |
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| 19:10.16 | ocx | jelly: i have a problem mounting my disk |
| 19:10.23 | ocx | sudo mount /dev/sdd4 recovery/ mount: special device /dev/sdd4 does not exist |
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| 19:10.50 | greycat | OK. So you tried to print the partition table (good), using what command? |
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| 19:11.46 | jelly | ocx: look at "lsblk" output, for example. Do you see "sdd" and "sdd4" in there? |
| 19:11.52 | ocx | http://pastie.org/10529628 |
| 19:12.09 | grondilu | Hello, which tool could I use to monitor network traffic on my local network? (I've temporarily granted access to my neighbor and I'd like to check she's not consumming bandwith) |
| 19:12.31 | ocx | jelly: http://pastie.org/10529631 |
| 19:12.34 | w33d0pe | I am getting "Your kernel does not support cgroup cfs period" |
| 19:12.37 | greycat | How come your first pastebin had sdc and the second has sdd? |
| 19:12.37 | w33d0pe | how can i fix this? |
| 19:12.49 | somiaj | grondilu: there are lots of tools. The one I recall using was iptraf because it works from a console |
| 19:12.50 | greycat | w33d0pe: install a newer kernel and boot into it? |
| 19:13.05 | w33d0pe | i ma on the latest main kernel |
| 19:13.08 | w33d0pe | am |
| 19:13.12 | w33d0pe | (jessie) |
| 19:13.17 | greycat | w33d0pe: cat /debian_version; uname -a |
| 19:13.21 | Ghostbird | grondilu: The easiest way I can think of is to let your router control her bandwidth, if it has that option. |
| 19:13.34 | w33d0pe | Debian Jessie - 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5 (2015-10-09) x86_64 |
| 19:13.35 | somiaj | grondilu: seems there is iptraf-ng I haven't seen. But this is a tool that looks at the network usage as you run it. Unsure if there are better tools to log this and give you a graph of usage overtime. |
| 19:13.53 | ocx | greycat: i unplugged and replugged the usb drive |
| 19:14.04 | greycat | w33d0pe: what were you doing that produced that message? Are you trying to compile a kernel module? |
| 19:14.07 | jelly | ocx: so the tools can't recognize a partition table. There are various possible causes, some of them hardware related, some not. |
| 19:14.19 | ocx | jelly: ok any chance to recover? |
| 19:14.25 | ocx | i have lot of files here :( |
| 19:14.34 | w33d0pe | no, i am trying to start a docker container |
| 19:14.40 | pofffs | Ghostbird, I solved the issue with gtkspell. I had the gtk3 package, which should have worked for 2/3, but the sylpheed configuration detected it correctly when I installed the depreciated gtk2 version from source |
| 19:14.54 | w33d0pe | it sbeen logged in var/log/daemon.log |
| 19:15.01 | Ghostbird | pofffs: Good job! |
| 19:15.03 | w33d0pe | also |
| 19:15.03 | w33d0pe | "Your kernel does not support cgroup cfs quotas" |
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| 19:15.08 | jelly | ocx: tread carefully. If your files are worth more than say $200 or so, consult a professional data recovery service. |
| 19:15.16 | w33d0pe | and |
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| 19:15.17 | w33d0pe | "Your kernel does not support kernel memory limit. |
| 19:15.38 | ocx | jelly:cant i try something now? |
| 19:15.44 | w33d0pe | and .. Failed to set cpu.cfs_period_us on /system.slice: Permission denied |
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| 19:15.56 | w33d0pe | .Failed to set cpu.cfs_quota_us on /system.slice: Permission denied |
| 19:16.03 | w33d0pe | etc |
| 19:16.12 | jelly | ocx: you can try lots of things, but many of those can do even more damage. |
| 19:16.21 | w33d0pe | localhost systemd[1]: Failed to set cpu.cfs_period_us on /user.slice: Permission denied |
| 19:16.25 | ocx | ok let me take the risk |
| 19:16.29 | ocx | what to do |
| 19:16.30 | w33d0pe | the list goes on |
| 19:17.15 | radonx | I'm doing some Debian for education, and this was part of an excerise. (no im not a lazy school boy who wants others to make his homework, i just couldn't find a proper answer on goolge to this problem), i have Debian 8 on a VirtualBox. there is allready files/directories/stuff on it, and now the paper askes me to do http://imgur.com/jRrPk4V. |
| 19:17.22 | jelly | ocx: find a second disk with 750GiB free space, and make a bit-exact image of the disk with your data. |
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| 19:18.19 | jelly | ocx: avoid doing anything with the original disk until you have a safe copy. |
| 19:18.24 | mtn | radonx: notice where it says to rtfm? that means=read the fine manual. good idea! |
| 19:18.35 | ocx | jelly: how do i do that bit to bit |
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| 19:18.45 | ocx | dd command? |
| 19:18.51 | jelly | mtn: telling the user to RTFM is useless if they don't know which FM to R |
| 19:18.56 | radonx | rtfm? |
| 19:19.05 | jelly | Read The Fine Manual |
| 19:19.12 | mtn | jelly: they should ask their teacher :P |
| 19:19.41 | jelly | mtn: and we should either provide tech support, or be quiet in here. |
| 19:19.57 | w33d0pe | systemd 215-17+deb8u2 amd64 system and service manager |
| 19:20.05 | mtn | jelly: oh, thank you so much |
| 19:20.17 | w33d0pe | any hints how to enable the kernerl support? |
| 19:20.27 | jelly | ocx: yes, but ddrescue or dd_rescue would be safer. |
| 19:20.32 | greycat | w33d0pe: I know nothing about docker, sorry. |
| 19:21.16 | jelly | ocx: do you in fact have a second large disk to make a copy of the whole affected device? |
| 19:21.31 | ocx | jelly: no :( |
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| 19:22.01 | jelly | ocx: then I strongly suggest not to fuck around further if you care about your data, until you're able to make a copy. |
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| 19:22.26 | w33d0pe | lets just try to think about how to enable cpu.cfs_quota_us |
| 19:22.33 | w33d0pe | support |
| 19:22.34 | ewew | ocx Recovery can be expensive. |
| 19:22.43 | w33d0pe | in the kernel |
| 19:22.46 | radonx | mnt: i do not have a teachter, its just something from my work |
| 19:22.52 | ocx | jelly: i got it, so mainly we try to copy the bad sectors too and try to hopefully mount on the new one? |
| 19:23.22 | greycat | radonx: Reduce the question to English words that you can ask in chat, like "When I try to ___ I get ___". There should be no graphical screen shots. |
| 19:23.47 | Ghostbird | radonx: Normally what you do is done during installation. I'm not sure you can simply and safely do this on a running system. |
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| 19:24.38 | jelly | ocx: no. you make a safe copy regardless of any existing bad sectors or not. At this point it's too early to know what kind of corruption happened. |
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| 19:24.56 | radonx | thanks Ghostbird: that was my question too, i put the screen shot for context, |
| 19:25.26 | greycat | Ghostbird: what's he trying to do? or, what did you think he's trying to do? |
| 19:25.36 | jelly | radonx: alright then, do you have any issues finding the relevant options in mkfs.ext4 man page? |
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| 19:28.46 | Ghostbird | radonx: During install you will be asked to set-up partitioning, and a popular option is to make a separate partition for /home. When you're doing this you can select the percentage of "reserved" blocks, which are not usable by normal users. Reservation of these blocks (among other things) ensures that users cannot accidentally or maliciously block the system by filling the hard-drive. You can add a LABEL, which is well known for USB drive |
| 19:28.46 | Ghostbird | partitions, it's the name it has when you plug it in a system. /home is usually put on a separate system because this ensures that user data is not affected by upgrades/downgrade or even complete reinstalls of the system. |
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| 19:29.53 | greycat | to change the parameters of a file system after it's already created, look at "man tune2fs" |
| 19:30.46 | w33d0pe | does not jessi emain kernel not support CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH? |
| 19:31.02 | greycat | wooledg@wooledg:~$ grep CFS_BAND /boot/config-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 19:31.03 | greycat | # CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH is not set |
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| 19:31.28 | w33d0pe | true! |
| 19:31.30 | w33d0pe | hmm |
| 19:31.41 | w33d0pe | i need this |
| 19:31.41 | Ghostbird | radonx: I have recently helped my sister reinstall Debian when an older distro install went haywire. Her personal files were all perfectly safe during all this, she just had to reinstall the software she normally uses, but all the user preferences, browser stored passwords, etc. are all fine. When she started Iceweasel after the install, it opened the pages she had been browsing the moment the old install died. |
| 19:31.43 | w33d0pe | enabled |
| 19:31.57 | centrx | wow |
| 19:32.03 | ablegreen_w | I am building a debian package. My control file has the following line: "Depends: python (>=2.7), postgresql (>=9.4)". I use apt-get install to install this custom debian package. Postgresql 9.4+ is not in sources.list by default. Where do I add the source in my custom debian package so that it knows where to install it from? |
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| 19:32.49 | w33d0pe | i am not sture |
| 19:32.52 | w33d0pe | sure |
| 19:32.56 | Ghostbird | ablegreen_w: Normally you'd add a text listing of the source repository in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ IIRC. |
| 19:33.02 | xdije | hi |
| 19:33.03 | greycat | ,v docker.io |
| 19:33.04 | judd | Package: docker.io on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.6.2~dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7.1~dfsg1-1; sid: 1.8.3~ds1-2 |
| 19:33.07 | w33d0pe | but can just uncomment # CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH is not set? |
| 19:33.13 | centrx | Normally sources are separate from the package. I don't think you can specify to install from a specific source, except by specifying a particular kind of version |
| 19:33.17 | jelly | judd: kconfig CFS_BANDWIDTH --release sid |
| 19:33.19 | judd | Searching for 'CFS_BANDWIDTH' in sid kernel config gives no results. |
| 19:33.21 | centrx | or package name |
| 19:33.22 | ablegreen_w | Ghostbird: Right, but is there a way for my custom deb to do that automatically without human intervention? |
| 19:33.25 | greycat | w33d0pe: This is an indication of what is compiled into the kernel, not a thing you can just change in a text file. |
| 19:33.31 | xdije | i am trying to install virtualbox on my jessie laptop and i get this error linux-headers-amd64 : Depends: linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 but it is not going to be installed |
| 19:33.32 | w33d0pe | ok |
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| 19:33.47 | greycat | w33d0pe: does the docker.io package in jessie-backports work? What version are you using? |
| 19:33.53 | jelly | dpkg, tell xdije about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 19:33.59 | w33d0pe | 1.9 |
| 19:34.01 | w33d0pe | latest |
| 19:34.08 | greycat | Try an older version then. |
| 19:34.16 | w33d0pe | had 1.8.4 |
| 19:34.22 | w33d0pe | same issue |
| 19:34.26 | jelly | w33d0pe: or build your own kernel with relevant options enabled |
| 19:34.29 | w33d0pe | i have a docker container |
| 19:34.36 | w33d0pe | which sets these cpu limits |
| 19:34.45 | w33d0pe | but is unable to start |
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| 19:34.51 | greycat | w33d0pe: try the version in jessie-backports? |
| 19:34.52 | Ghostbird | ablegreen_w: Oooh, that's what you want. Even if you could do that, it wouldn't work, because the dependencies are checked before anything of the .deb is executed. AFAIK. |
| 19:34.52 | w33d0pe | due to this |
| 19:35.09 | w33d0pe | Error response from daemon: Cannot start container pp-tf33_ry5bcxf: [8] System error: open /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct/system.slice/docker-6f2a7ce736c6c1ea55f036638211a9a73a1df8ab3e31cc117532f359099eb3b3.scope/cpu.cfs_quota_us: permission denied |
| 19:35.09 | w33d0pe | Error: failed to start containers: [pp-tf33_ry5bcxf] |
| 19:35.15 | jelly | judd: kconfig CFS_BANDWIDTH --release sid |
| 19:35.16 | greycat | And for god's sake stop hitting Enter three times per sentence. |
| 19:35.17 | judd | Searching for 'CFS_BANDWIDTH' in sid kernel config gives no results. |
| 19:35.23 | ablegreen_w | Ghostbird: Yeah that's what I thought. Dependencies are checked before even running postinst right? |
| 19:35.40 | jelly | because not even the kernel in sid seems to have that feature enabled |
| 19:35.47 | w33d0pe | ohhh! |
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| 19:35.59 | w33d0pe | what is the reason for this? |
| 19:36.26 | Ghostbird | ablegren_w: I think the easiest option is to provide users with a copypasteable line of bash, or a shell script, that will add the data to sources.list.d/, then execute sudo apt-get update and then dpkg -i <yourpackage>.deb |
| 19:36.40 | Ghostbird | *sudo dpkg |
| 19:36.43 | jelly | w33d0pe: possibly noone asked for it. Can you modify the container settings not to ask for unavailable limits? |
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| 19:37.16 | Ghostbird | ablegreen_w: Actually everything in that script would need to be sudo, so just let them sudo the script, and don't sudo anything in the script. |
| 19:37.21 | w33d0pe | well i have root access to the server but i would need a secure way to get this enabled kernel to run |
| 19:37.38 | jelly | w33d0pe: consider filing a bug report, esp. if software available in jessie or jessie-backports fails to work because of this |
| 19:37.45 | ablegreen_w | Ghostbird: If you do sudo dpkg -i then everything in the script will run as sudo right? |
| 19:37.55 | greycat | he's using an upstream version that's newer than what is in jessie-backports |
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| 19:38.14 | w33d0pe | is this to be considered as a "bug"? |
| 19:38.18 | w33d0pe | im not sure |
| 19:38.44 | jelly | a wish for something to be enabled, is also a bug in debian |
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| 19:39.01 | jelly | a bug of Priority: wishlist |
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| 19:39.14 | xdije | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/322522/ |
| 19:39.14 | greycat | hell, he's using an upstream version that's newer even than SID's |
| 19:39.24 | ewew | Would be easier to rebuild the kernel ? |
| 19:40.27 | w33d0pe | ok jelly |
| 19:40.30 | jelly | xdije: okay, now please also add output of 2. "apt-cache policy linux-headers-amd64 linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64" and 3. "apt-cache policy" |
| 19:40.32 | xdije | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/322533/ |
| 19:40.47 | jelly | nicer if you put it all in one paste |
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| 19:41.24 | w33d0pe | is there a nice little doc how to rebuild the kernel with custom options |
| 19:41.25 | w33d0pe | ? |
| 19:41.33 | greycat | !kernel handbook |
| 19:41.33 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
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| 19:41.52 | xdije | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/322535/ |
| 19:41.58 | w33d0pe | well |
| 19:41.59 | w33d0pe | https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/10/msg00313.html |
| 19:42.05 | xdije | sorry i will |
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| 19:42.19 | w33d0pe | someone was faster :) |
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| 19:43.36 | xdije | jelly, here all in one http://paste.debian.net/322536/ |
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| 19:44.44 | greycat | "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." ... which packages are held, and which are broken? |
| 19:44.45 | jelly | xdije: missing apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 19:45.12 | jelly | (output of install, line 12, makes it relevant) |
| 19:45.29 | jelly | ,v linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 19:45.30 | judd | Package: linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3; jessie-security: 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5; jessie-proposed-updates: 3.16.7-ckt17-1 |
| 19:46.09 | jelly | xdije: perhaps you just didn't do an "apt-get update" recently? |
| 19:46.22 | xdije | http://paste.debian.net/322537/ |
| 19:47.00 | xdije | i am doing update and it is new installed debian, still fresh |
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| 19:47.46 | jelly | xdije: not sure what's bugging apt-get, then. Try doing the same install with aptitude instead of apt-get |
| 19:48.32 | greycat | xdije: another thing to consider is "apt-get -f install" (no package names, just that) |
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| 19:51.32 | Ghostbird | ablegreen_w: Sorry, I was distracted. What I meant was a shell script that writes the repository to /etc/apt/sources.list/<your_file>, calls apt-get update, calls dpkg -i on your .deb file. You would distribute the shell script with the deb file, or let the shell script download the deb file, and only distribute the shell script. Then if people run the shell script, it takes care of adding the repository with dependencies to their system, |
| 19:51.32 | Ghostbird | updating apt to let the system learn about the added repository, and then try to install the .deb file. Now the dependency is known to the system, and the deb file can install. |
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| 19:51.49 | greycat | sources.list.d/file |
| 19:52.08 | greycat | and file has to end with ".list" I think |
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| 19:52.20 | Ghostbird | greycat: Thanks. you're right. |
| 19:52.21 | xdije | jelly, i dont have aptitude on my system |
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| 19:52.45 | xdije | when i try to install it i got error some missing plugins that will not be installed |
| 19:53.19 | ablegreen_w | Ghostbird: Good idea, thanks. |
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| 19:54.00 | ocx | jelly: will the copy copy correctly even if you have hardware problems? |
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| 19:54.54 | jelly | ocx: ddrescue from gddrescue package will try to copy as much as possible, yes |
| 19:55.05 | ocx | ok |
| 19:55.26 | jelly | it won't magically reconstruct data from nothing |
| 19:55.37 | Ghostbird | xdije: Did you do "sudo apt-get install -f"? |
| 19:55.45 | ocx | jelly: so if it encounters a bad block it would place nothing there instead of raising an error? |
| 19:56.23 | jelly | ocx: it will write zeroed space in the image instead, yes |
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| 19:56.47 | ocx | ok |
| 19:57.26 | xdije | Ghostbird, first it complained about some packages that are not required anymore and i removed them with autoremove, and now this is the output http://paste.debian.net/322551/ |
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| 19:58.39 | Palm_premium | Evning. I am experiencing some trouble with my bluetooth keyboard, whenever I wake/restart my computer it takes a couple of minutes to connect my keyboard. |
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| 20:00.42 | Palm_premium | Does annyone have experience with bluetooth and Debian Jessie? |
| 20:01.18 | jelly | *crickets* |
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| 20:02.44 | Palm_premium | Readies bluetooth keyboard to smash crickets |
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| 20:08.16 | Korak | Ok, so I have Debian running in VirtualBox, the audio is very inconsistent. Most of the time I have had it running fast, now today it is running slow. There any ideas as to what I should be looking at? |
| 20:10.40 | Palm_premium | Korak, Ubuntu |
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| 20:11.16 | Ghostbird | xdije: You can try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now. |
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| 20:12.05 | Ghostbird | Palm_premium: I haven't managed to get bluetooth pairing to work at all in Jessie, so you're ahead of me. |
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| 20:12.32 | Palm_premium | Ghostbird, what kind of devic are you trying to pair. |
| 20:12.39 | Korak | Palm_premium, you seriously suggesting that to fix my issue I should switch distros? |
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| 20:14.07 | Palm_premium | Korak, was just joking since the channel remaind quiete after my question. I doubt switching would matter. |
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| 20:14.36 | Ghostbird | palm_premium: That was months ago. I don't have that set-up anymore. I think it was a Marley wireless stereo speaker. |
| 20:14.39 | Korak | well, that is good. |
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| 20:15.38 | Korak | I certainly don't plan to try that to find out, I have tried Ubuntu a couple times, left a bad taste in my mouth. Don't plan on messing with them anymore. I don't trust cannonical |
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| 20:17.48 | xdije | Ghostbird, after upgrade still have the same issue, |
| 20:17.59 | Palm_premium | Ghostbird, I had some trouble wit registering my keyboard and headphones as "Favorite" or trusted device. Take a look at " bluetoothctl -a" . (Don't fortget to run it as root) |
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| 20:21.33 | skirmisha | guys |
| 20:21.48 | skirmisha | can someone help me with my issues |
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| 20:21.59 | Ghostbird | Yeah, I tried bluetoothctl. Maybe I just forgot to run it as sudo. |
| 20:22.00 | greycat | !ask |
| 20:22.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 20:23.00 | skirmisha | 2 issues, just upgraded to latest testing debian and gnome 3.18, now first issue is that root terminal starts only once, when you close it it does not want to start anymore |
| 20:23.22 | skirmisha | any ideas why, been digging 3-4 hours so far and could not find anything related to this |
| 20:23.32 | skirmisha | to solve my issue |
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| 20:23.55 | greycat | For testing issues, the official place to ask is #debian-next on the OFTC network. |
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| 20:24.33 | skirmisha | pff |
| 20:24.41 | skirmisha | thanks |
| 20:25.01 | greycat | Beyond that, I would find out where your session is logging errors (possibly some file in $HOME) and look for errors from the terminal program there. |
| 20:25.02 | Palm_premium | skirmisha, why not use "su" |
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| 20:25.48 | skirmisha | Palm_premium, because i am used to it |
| 20:25.53 | skirmisha | it works first time i start it |
| 20:26.04 | Palm_premium | skimisha, Do you still get the password prompt? |
| 20:26.15 | skirmisha | if i keep it open i can start several terminal, however if i close it does not start anymore |
| 20:26.31 | skirmisha | no password, i got dbus error in messages file |
| 20:26.51 | greycat | Well, start with that. Google for your error message. |
| 20:27.24 | skirmisha | i did, all they say is about locales which is not the case with me |
| 20:28.26 | skirmisha | this is the problem - http://osdir.com/ml/general/2015-06/msg33281.html but it does not resolve my issue |
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| 20:28.35 | skirmisha | i have deleted .dbus and still same issue |
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| 20:30.37 | greycat | Well, that's a debian bug report (original: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=712104 ) so you should be able to follow up through the BTS, or in #debian-next. |
| 20:30.38 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/712104 in gnome-terminal (open, confirmed): «gnome-terminal: gksu gnome-terminal doesn't start in certain conditions»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-06-13; last modified: 2015-06-23. |
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| 20:35.41 | skirmisha | my second issue is on logout my pc freeze |
| 20:36.12 | greycat | you can't even get to a console with ctrl-alt-F1 etc.? |
| 20:37.06 | skirmisha | nope., nothing works |
| 20:37.10 | greycat | is this with proprietary nvidia drivers? I seem to recall some vaguely similar issue with those, many years ago |
| 20:37.12 | skirmisha | only power off works |
| 20:37.23 | skirmisha | i use intel drivers |
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| 20:37.50 | skirmisha | i think it is something with gdm |
| 20:38.09 | skirmisha | by the way, how could i change login screen image? |
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| 20:45.22 | hayer | So I've installed debian server, made some changes, installed a couple of packages. What is the easiest way to make a image out of this so I can install on a new server but still following the setup wizard picking hostname etc? |
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| 20:49.21 | Ghostbird | hayer: The simpelest solution I can think of, is to write a script that makes all those changes you did. Then execute that script after each install. Maybe you can package it in the install filesystem, and set it up to execute once on first boot. |
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| 20:51.07 | jhutchins | !apt clone |
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| 20:51.16 | jhutchins | !debian clone |
| 20:51.17 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>. |
| 20:52.07 | letsfindout | did tracker-store always start indexing like crazy on bootup? I don't remember it doing it to the extent that it is now |
| 20:52.17 | jhutchins | There are also preseed and kickstart, which allow you to build a template that can configure individual packages and answers all of the installer prompts for you. |
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| 20:53.28 | Ghostbird | jhutchins: Thanks! I knew about the dpkg ---get-selections dump, but I figured he'd need more than that since he "changed some things". |
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| 20:59.49 | chrislamp | hello all! How can i see the patch between for example iceweasel 38.3 and 38.4? Thank you |
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| 21:11.50 | chrislamp | no one knows?? I thought to be easy... |
| 21:12.28 | greycat | Acquire both complete source trees and do a "diff -ru one two" |
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| 21:14.32 | chrislamp | yes i have done this but i thought that was exist a more elegant way |
| 21:14.41 | chrislamp | anyway thank you very much :) |
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| 21:19.44 | jhutchins | !changelog |
| 21:19.45 | dpkg | The Debian changelog for foo can be found in /usr/share/doc/foo/ if foo is installed. From a .deb, "apt-listchanges -a foo.deb" or "dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile foo.deb| tar --wildcards -xOf - '*changelog.Debian.gz'|zless". You can also "aptitude changelog foo" or go to http://changelogs.debian.net/bar if foo is built from source package bar. See also <apt-listchanges>. |
| 21:20.18 | greycat | That's the changelog between "upstream version A and Debian version A-B" |
| 21:20.32 | jhutchins | Changelogs are entirely dependent on maintainers being thorough about documenting changes. |
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| 21:20.54 | jhutchins | greycat: The ones I've seen were often upstream changelogs. |
| 21:21.06 | greycat | oh wait, I was thinking of patch. no, that's not even the patch. |
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| 21:21.41 | greycat | I believe the original question was "show me the patch of changes between upstream version A and upstream version B" |
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| 21:21.50 | jhutchins | changelog.Debian would be "what we did at Debian". |
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| 21:22.41 | jhutchins | greycat: You're right that diff-ing the code is the authoratative method, and you can use it to create a patch file. |
| 21:22.46 | chrislamp | i don't speak about changelogs. I mean patches. For example I see in changelogs of one packet that CVE-XXXX-XXXX was fixed but I want to see HOW it was fixed |
| 21:23.18 | greycat | Oh, so you DID mean "between upstream and Debian"? Or did you mean how upstream fixed it between upstream A and B? |
| 21:23.28 | somiaj | chrislamp: you have to download the actual source package. The source package contains the original .tar.gz along with the debian patches. Most packges use quilt and you can find all the patches in debian/patches |
| 21:23.31 | greycat | If you want the DEBIAN patch, that's easy. |
| 21:23.51 | somiaj | and yes that is only for debian patches. Unsure what methods to look at if the fix was 'grab a new upstream version' |
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| 21:24.35 | Ghostbird | chrislamp: If the sources are online such as on github, this is easier. Then you can look up what changes were made just before the CVE was fixed. |
| 21:24.37 | jhutchins | There should be a record of the CVE and how it was fixed, but I don't think that's tracked by a consistent method across projects. |
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| 21:25.05 | jhutchins | Should be a "ticket" tracking that bug. |
| 21:25.10 | greycat | I don't think ANYONE reports how they fix a bug. |
| 21:25.16 | greycat | They just say "fixed". |
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| 21:26.01 | abrotman | The code is self-documenting! |
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| 21:26.06 | jhutchins | I've worked on projects where the code change was always attached to the bug ticket. |
| 21:27.30 | somiaj | I don't think anyone would want to look at my code. Luckly I don't work on any projects. (: |
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| 21:31.53 | chrislamp | thank you very much guys!! Specifically today new iceweasel have fixed around 20 bugs. i looked inside the source package but it not contain any information. The patch files inside are irrelevant, also "grepping" for msfa/CVE dont return any usefull results. and also searching the internet for the specific CVE has almost no information. also on cve.mitre.org has no assignments. i see the situation a little bit unorganize |
| 21:31.56 | chrislamp | d |
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| 21:32.44 | greycat | Firefox's typical user base does not care about source code, diffs, or technical details of any kind. |
| 21:32.49 | greycat | They just want to click the big green button. |
| 21:32.59 | chrislamp | so the most reliable method is diffing but again not will know a specific CVE etails |
| 21:33.24 | somiaj | chrislamp: iceweasel fixes are strange. Because we are using the ESR version which mozilla is usually fixing bugs and issues. But debian only updates the to a newer esr version when there is a security issue. So when fixing a security issue other fixes 'sneak in' as well. |
| 21:33.49 | somiaj | chrislamp: but since this is just using the fix from the esr version of firefox. That is where to look for more details. |
| 21:33.57 | jhutchins | chrislamp: I'm sure it's tracked within mozilla, but they probably make it public. |
| 21:35.00 | chrislamp | again thank you! your answers are very enlightening |
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| 21:57.08 | axc1298 | is ndiswrapper still a thing? this realtek chipset is annoying and i think i have no other choice |
| 21:57.30 | greycat | Which chipset? lspci -nn | grep -i ether |
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| 21:57.54 | greycat | or wireless or whatever the hell it is, I dunno any more |
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| 21:59.52 | greycat | or you could always paste-bin the entire lspci -nn ... it's not that big |
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| 22:08.18 | axc1298 | i'm checking on that thanks |
| 22:08.53 | axc1298 | lsusb:Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. |
| 22:09.06 | greycat | ,pci-id 0bda:8179 |
| 22:09.07 | judd | [0bda:8179] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0bda:8179 |
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| 22:10.27 | greycat | google says http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2172877 but I cannot vouch for it |
| 22:10.37 | teraflops | axc1298: it's the RTL8188EU |
| 22:10.44 | MrDetonia | Hi, does the mkisofs comman exist on Debian anymore? What is the alternative? |
| 22:11.22 | teraflops | axc1298: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu ^ |
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| 22:12.13 | greycat | google also gives https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x which may or may not be "safer" |
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| 22:14.04 | axc1298 | thanks i can try that before i resort to ndiswrapper |
| 22:15.16 | axc1298 | teraflops: would that driver on github be different from the one in the kernel? |
| 22:15.38 | axc1298 | would i need to blacklist something in other words? |
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| 22:15.56 | teraflops | axc1298: well my guess is that there is no driver in the jessie kernel as the bot says |
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| 22:16.15 | axc1298 | ok i'll compile this and give it a try |
| 22:16.29 | greycat | MrDetonia: I think wodim or dvd+rw-tools may include one... the alternative (original) is cdrtools which is not packaged |
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| 22:17.07 | MrDetonia | greycat: thanks. I just found genisoimage which seems to do what I want. |
| 22:17.11 | greycat | axc1298: the debian wiki page's approach is a bit different. You may want to read both carefully and pick one. |
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| 22:17.42 | Rubin | what is the deal with this php 5.4 end of life thing on debian7 ? |
| 22:17.50 | teraflops | axc1298: greycat is right |
| 22:17.52 | Rubin | dont we have time left before its supposed to go unsupported? |
| 22:18.06 | Rubin | i dont see how they can abandon it before the 1 year mark when 8 came out |
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| 22:18.56 | axc1298 | greycat: the wiki suggests firmware-realtek which i had no success with |
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| 22:19.33 | teraflops | axc1298: well, i think there is a fw in that git repo |
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| 22:31.56 | MalcomYork | Hello people |
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| 22:38.03 | axc1298 | teraflops: the github driver worked! |
| 22:38.11 | jiggawattz | w0000000000000000000 |
| 22:38.11 | axc1298 | thanks so much |
| 22:38.16 | jiggawattz | D.E.B.I.A.N. |
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| 22:38.40 | teraflops | axc1298: nice ;) |
| 22:39.08 | teraflops | axc1298: no glad to help |
| 22:39.11 | teraflops | np* |
| 22:39.15 | axc1298 | :) |
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| 22:39.31 | horse_rider | lol guys check this out http://bit.ly/1NAQI6i |
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| 22:40.45 | MalcomYork | I'm trying to install grub2 on a luks fully encrypted disk. It's a BIOS system with an msdos partition table, only one partition, which is encrypted with luks and lvm on it. The problem is that I'm getting an error saying: grub2-install: error: disk `lvmid/dvETfb-JM9w-AqKq-qn7X-kjIF-AvTg-0L7h1j/0rFi2E-k3Zx-97ra-sRkd-9ZS7-FFcF-Ic1gwa' not found. |
| 22:41.04 | axc1298 | teraflops: if i ever wanted to remove it for some reason do i just sudo make uninstall in the directory i ran sudo make install? |
| 22:41.14 | axc1298 | since i may use it on another computer instead of this one |
| 22:41.47 | teraflops | axc1298: I suppose so, just take a look at the makefile |
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| 22:42.28 | axc1298 | ok |
| 22:42.52 | jhutchins | axc1298: The uninstall target is not always present. |
| 22:44.08 | axc1298 | jhutchins: oh i should have read the makefile it has uninstall instructions in it lol |
| 22:44.13 | teraflops | axc1298: yes you can, line 161 uninstall: |
| 22:44.25 | axc1298 | teraflops: thanks |
| 22:44.29 | teraflops | np |
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| 22:45.40 | xacobe9797 | http://goo.gl/heDq7s |
| 22:45.47 | jhutchins | axc1298: Make sure you keep a copy of THAT VERSION of the source. |
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| 22:50.34 | axc1298 | i will |
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| 22:55.34 | pofffs | is there any reason why you shouldn't run ./configure && make as root? |
| 22:55.54 | ewew | pofffs possible maliciou code. |
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| 22:56.14 | pofffs | ewew, but you're going to run make install as root anyway, presumably |
| 22:56.30 | ZodoTurtle | nevermind |
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| 22:58.11 | ewew | pofffs You dont need capabilities for compiling code. Read http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/capabilities.7.html |
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| 22:59.27 | ewew | !tell pofffs root |
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| 22:59.38 | radonx | where can i find the boot log? |
| 22:59.40 | teraflops | pofffs: the point is: only use root when needed |
| 23:00.01 | ewew | may i post info from "dpkg" bot ? |
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| 23:00.42 | ewew | !root |
| 23:00.42 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 23:03.32 | teraflops | radonx: `joutnalctl -b` (as root unless youre in the systemd-journal group) |
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| 23:05.43 | pofffs | i have a debian jessie chroot, and I am trying to compile tor in it. I installed gcc, libevent, and now when I do ./configure, I get no errors, but just this: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/5134e6a6 |
| 23:06.07 | centrx | pofffs, apt-get install build-essential |
| 23:06.36 | radonx | teraflops: I am root and joutnalctl "command not found |
| 23:06.41 | pofffs | centrx, thanks |
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| 23:07.43 | teraflops | srry radonx i mean journalctl |
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| 23:08.02 | awer_ | i have about 50 .tar files that i suspect are all parts of one group of files. how do i extract them together? |
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| 23:23.52 | DrDamnit | I was writing random data with dd to a disk to prepare it for LUKS when we lost power. The disk is 4TB, and it had been writing for two days, and had reached 1.7TB. I would like to pick up where I left off. Reading the man page for dd, I think this command will do it. anyone disagree? dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/myraid/SecureStorage obs=1M oflag=seek_bytes seek=17000000 |
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| 23:25.10 | DrDamnit | Sorry.. I was missing some zeros in my copy paste. 170000000000 |
| 23:25.53 | rawburt | ooo is that how much money you want to give me? |
| 23:26.15 | rawburt | for $170000000000 I can forget anything |
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| 23:36.12 | toli | brctl addif br2 vpn-if - gives me (can't add vpn-if to bridge br2: Invalid argument), any hints? |
| 23:36.51 | toli | normally, what we do is brctl addif br2 eth0 |
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| 23:52.28 | pofffs | what outgoing ports does TOR use when connecting to the first entry node? 443? anything else? |
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| 23:59.50 | ewew | Does anyone know how to use i3wm in xfce4 ? |