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| 00:02.14 | zykotick9 | s/should/shouldn't/ but ymmv |
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| 00:03.56 | mancomunado | Debian Jessy @KDE was not booting, stucking on "starting system message bus: dbus". So I've successfully installed LXDE and run it through startx. By executing "X" a KDE error prompts "cannot open theme file @@@ to be replaced by steltop base @@@@". How do turn lxde the X so I don't have to manually run it though a login's terminal? |
| 00:05.00 | mancomunado | startx boots on LXDE, X doesn't neither does the system after mounting a logical volume Luks |
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| 00:10.00 | loloshe | <somiaj>hee |
| 00:10.03 | loloshe | hey |
| 00:10.03 | zykotick9 | mancomunado: so really... is it jessy (sic) or ubuntu you are running? |
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| 00:10.17 | loloshe | somiaj: |
| 00:10.20 | loloshe | that totally worked |
| 00:10.23 | loloshe | thanks so much |
| 00:11.51 | unborn | loloshe, I thought chrome have its very own version of flash build into browser... |
| 00:12.28 | unborn | somiaj, or I am mistaking maybe? |
| 00:12.50 | somiaj | unborn: chromium does not include the non-free plugin. debian provides a script in contrib wich extracts this nonfree component from chrome and uses it in the opensource part chromium. |
| 00:13.04 | mancomunado | zykotick9, debian 3.16 (i686). if that's for any informative reason |
| 00:13.40 | unborn | somiaj, aha my bad.. Im sorry did read all mgs.. got you now.. |
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| 00:22.06 | Ivoah | Is there a tool to find what non-free firmwares I need to install to support all the hardware on my computer? Like in Ubuntu? |
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| 00:25.37 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Since I upgraded to Jessie, Xine no longer opens any files, claiming it doesn't understand the codec |
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| 00:26.06 | Pegasus_RPG | I've tried purging all xine packages and reinstalling, but still no luck |
| 00:26.17 | nuno_nunes | Pegasus_RPG, install vlc |
| 00:26.40 | Pegasus_RPG | nuno_nunes: I have that installed too, but it doesn't have an FFT visualization like Xine does. |
| 00:27.12 | Pegasus_RPG | Also VLCs visualizations are very slow on FLAC files |
| 00:27.28 | nuno_nunes | lol |
| 00:28.00 | zykotick9 | goes to try vlc's visualizations on flac files for the first time :) |
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| 00:29.06 | Pegasus_RPG | the Spectrum one specifically |
| 00:29.11 | Pegasus_RPG | zykotick9: ^ |
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| 00:30.31 | Pegasus_RPG | nuno_nunes: do you know of any FFT plugin for VLC? |
| 00:30.37 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: ok... i can't find visualizations... where should i be looking? right now, i see album art. |
| 00:31.09 | Pegasus_RPG | zykotick9: audio menu, vizualizations |
| 00:31.34 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: :) thanks! |
| 00:31.35 | Ivoah | Is there a tool to find what non-free firmwares I need to install to support all the hardware on my computer? Like in Ubuntu? |
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| 00:31.59 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: fyi, spectrum is super slow on my system :( |
| 00:32.18 | unborn | Ivoah, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 00:32.32 | Pegasus_RPG | zykotick9: I thought it was just slow period until I tried it on an MP3 file |
| 00:32.53 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: will test... one second. |
| 00:33.00 | Ivoah | unborn: How do I know what packages I need to install though? I've already got debian installed |
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| 00:33.40 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: yup! same result - on mp3 it's fine... |
| 00:33.48 | Pegasus_RPG | fownd a bug |
| 00:34.29 | Pegasus_RPG | asks in #vlc |
| 00:34.33 | mutante | heh, is "fownd" the term for bugs that include remote exploits? |
| 00:35.09 | unborn | Ivoah, well.. you aint asked about packages, you asked about tools or the way.. I guess good way would be to re-install - if you dont want to search for what it is not working on your system - you know.. |
| 00:35.26 | Pegasus_RPG | mutante: heh, didn't think of that, but it's fitting |
| 00:35.50 | mutante | Pegasus_RPG: :) |
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| 00:36.07 | Pegasus_RPG | Ivoah: look through the syslog from the boot messages. It will say if there's any firmware required for pieces of HW that are detected |
| 00:36.09 | Pegasus_RPG | IIRC |
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| 00:36.28 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: seriously, find a real "bug" (that's not already reported) on debian stable is pretty rare... check bts ;) (sidenote: i think it might be a LOT easier on jessie, but that's just anectodal) |
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| 00:36.43 | Pegasus_RPG | oh I know |
| 00:37.08 | Pegasus_RPG | Anyway, unless anyone knows of a FFT viz plugin for VLC, can anyone help me with my xine problems? |
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| 00:37.31 | Pegasus_RPG | (I also can't get Audacity to work after the upgrade) |
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| 00:37.59 | zykotick9 | Pegasus_RPG: my usual fft plugin runs on ncmpcpp in terminal :) best of luck |
| 00:38.10 | Pegasus_RPG | It just exits with code 0377 according to gdb |
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| 00:40.08 | Pegasus_RPG | Aha! libxine2-all-plugins package |
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| 00:44.16 | Pegasus_RPG | So that leaves Audacity. All I know is that it terminates right after starting with code 0377 |
| 00:44.23 | Pegasus_RPG | no GUI, no error message ont he console |
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| 00:49.01 | Pegasus_RPG | Okay, moving my config dir out of the way took care of that |
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| 00:49.38 | nuno_nunes | check flac in synaptic |
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| 00:50.12 | nuno_nunes | flac in vlc is libvlc |
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| 00:50.20 | nuno_nunes | Pegasus_RPG, checked? |
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| 00:50.58 | axc1298 | for some reason usb 3.0 speeds are less impressive in debian than windows on the same machine |
| 00:51.02 | Pegasus_RPG | nuno_nunes: I usually just search packages.debian.org, but I'm loading Synapic now |
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| 00:51.18 | Slimmy | Hey guys. Can I ask something? Does each ISP include different DHCP? Or is there some sort of global DHCP? |
| 00:51.47 | Pegasus_RPG | nuno_nunes: I have libvlc5 installed |
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| 00:52.00 | nuno_nunes | yes |
| 00:52.11 | nuno_nunes | in ubuntu and debian |
| 00:52.12 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: each does its own, though the address space should be global, unless they're doing multi-level NAT |
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| 00:53.07 | nuno_nunes | wait a moment |
| 00:53.17 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG: what is a multi-level nat? And what do you mean "address space"? I am sorry if I'm asking the obvious. Reading the terms on wikipedia |
| 00:53.35 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: what IP are you getting now? |
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| 00:54.07 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG I am not doing anything. I just want to know how does it work |
| 00:54.47 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: it depends on your ISP. normally, they each run their own DHCP, but the addresses handed out are public ones, globally routable |
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| 00:55.38 | nuno_nunes | checked in sourcelist |
| 00:56.23 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG: thanks a lot even if I was totally off-topic!!!! |
| 00:58.02 | nuno_nunes | http://pastebin.com/HKTY5sCg |
| 00:58.07 | nuno_nunes | :D |
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| 01:00.05 | Slimmy | An issue i've been having with debian installing... I have a 64 bit PC with broken hard disk so I want to install debian on my 32 GB thumb drive. I boot my 64 bit netinstall image from my other either 4GB or 8GB USB but get erro at Software install. What can I do to troubleshoot? |
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| 01:01.00 | nuno_nunes | Slimmy, in windows or linux |
| 01:01.29 | Slimmy | What? My pc is empty.. Im not in VM |
| 01:01.41 | Slimmy | the hard disk is broken nuno_nunes |
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| 01:02.13 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: what is the error you get? |
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| 01:02.16 | nuno_nunes | :S |
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| 01:02.52 | Pegasus_RPG | (And also be aware that running a full Debian from a flash drive will likely be slow and may wear out the drive quickly if many writes are done.) |
| 01:03.05 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG: Thats why it is hard to troubleshoot. Im on the partly GUI install. So I just get "Failure. Step failed either try it again or skip it" |
| 01:03.25 | nuno_nunes | Slimmy, is live usb? |
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| 01:03.28 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: press ALT-F2 to see the console output. (Maybe ALT-F3, I forget) |
| 01:03.37 | mutante | Slimmy: try switching to a console with ALT+F numbers |
| 01:03.44 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG: thanks for reminding me but I will take the risk! |
| 01:03.48 | Slimmy | Alright |
| 01:04.01 | Slimmy | I will probably talk to you guys tomorrow the install takes ages |
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| 01:04.06 | Slimmy | Thanks |
| 01:04.07 | madprops | hi |
| 01:04.07 | nuno_nunes | ctrl + alt + f7 |
| 01:04.07 | nuno_nunes | :d |
| 01:04.14 | Pegasus_RPG | my point exactly ;) |
| 01:04.16 | Slimmy | hhahaha nuno_nunes |
| 01:04.20 | madprops | anyone knows how to install and configure squid3? |
| 01:04.27 | madprops | it's already installed |
| 01:04.35 | nuno_nunes | to graphical mod |
| 01:04.35 | nuno_nunes | :D |
| 01:04.37 | madprops | but i dont know if it's working already or in which port |
| 01:04.49 | Slimmy | Just in case, how to boot it without GRUB or LILO? |
| 01:04.51 | nuno_nunes | http://wiki.rosalab.com/en/index.php/Blog:ROSA_Planet/ROSA_Image_Writer |
| 01:04.51 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: http://www.squid-cache.org/ |
| 01:05.30 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: netstat -an to see the ports your system is listening on. ps aux | grep squid may also help |
| 01:06.48 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, hmm i dont see squid with netstat |
| 01:06.59 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: and of course, look at /etc/squid* |
| 01:07.48 | Slimmy | If I get a hard disk connected with USB and install full debian to it will it have lower speed? |
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| 01:08.16 | Slimmy | I mean, since it doesn't transfer anything over the USB wire, shouldn't it be equally fast as a normal hard disk? |
| 01:08.18 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: than what? It depends on your USB controller's speed, the speed of the flash drive you're using now, and that of the HDD |
| 01:09.09 | Pegasus_RPG | uh, it transfers everything over the wire. Seriously, your best bet is to replace the broken internal HDD |
| 01:09.12 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG: The USB thumb drive is only 32 GB and a half tera byte hard disk is affordable. So, if I decide to buy that instead, will it be as slow as a USB? |
| 01:09.27 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG it is a laptop :/ |
| 01:09.47 | Pegasus_RPG | Okay, you can buy 2.5" HDDs for laptops |
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| 01:09.59 | Pegasus_RPG | the internal connection will be faster than the USB one, unless it's USB 3.0 |
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| 01:10.15 | axc1298 | sata will be a lot faster than usb 3.0 even |
| 01:10.32 | Pegasus_RPG | okay there you go :) |
| 01:10.39 | Slimmy | well I do not really care because the usb is 2.0 |
| 01:10.50 | Slimmy | so dammit. Anyway thank you :) |
| 01:11.04 | axc1298 | 2.0 is going to be really slow experience running an OS from it |
| 01:11.26 | Pegasus_RPG | unless it's like a firewall or something that you're not using interactively |
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| 01:12.06 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG it breaks my heart seing the only quad core PC in the house lying dead |
| 01:12.20 | Pegasus_RPG | lol, then slap a new HDD in there and you're good to go :) |
| 01:12.38 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG is it even affordable gettin new hdd in laptop? |
| 01:12.49 | Slimmy | axc1298 unfortunately you are 101% right :/ |
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| 01:13.07 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: quite! http://www.pricewatch.com/search?q=2.5+1tb&gallery=1&sortby=price |
| 01:13.20 | Slimmy | Pegasus_RPG: is it easy to open it myself and do it? |
| 01:13.25 | axc1298 | unless you need a lot of HDD space just buy a small hard drive for $40 or something. that will buy you more than 32 GB and it will be a lot faster |
| 01:13.39 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, i wanted to setup a proxy server to pipe data forbidden in my country to my computer, that's the purpose of squid right? or am i confused? |
| 01:13.43 | Slimmy | half tera is ok acx1298 |
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| 01:13.49 | Pegasus_RPG | Slimmy: That depends completely on the laptop. Some business-class ones have a door on the bottom you just take out two screws to remove |
| 01:13.55 | Slimmy | madprops use vpn mate |
| 01:14.05 | madprops | oh |
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| 01:14.21 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: he's right. You still need a way to get the data to the PC. Squid just caches it for you |
| 01:14.22 | madprops | i mean |
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| 01:14.33 | madprops | vpn as a software right |
| 01:14.34 | madprops | not a service |
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| 01:14.37 | axc1298 | Slimmy: 500 GB is about $40 |
| 01:14.44 | madprops | what vpn should i install? |
| 01:14.47 | axc1298 | or less |
| 01:14.50 | Slimmy | axc1298: you made my day! :D |
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| 01:15.08 | axc1298 | 320GB can be bought for $20 |
| 01:15.12 | Slimmy | madprops: I only know piphon being free but can't say whether it is really safe |
| 01:15.20 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: you need a service, unless you have another machine in an unrestricted country |
| 01:15.40 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, yes i have a server (vps) |
| 01:16.00 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: then you can set up OpenVPN server on that, and the client on your personal PC |
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| 01:16.25 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, i wanted it to use it with youtube-dl which has an option to specify a proxy |
| 01:16.36 | Slimmy | axc1298: This makes me wonder why the hell would I even buy a usb - except that it is more portable |
| 01:16.57 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: oh I see. You could install squid on your VPS then and add that as your proxy server in your browser/application |
| 01:17.02 | axc1298 | Slimmy: they're useful to have around when you need a quick way to transport data. |
| 01:17.08 | axc1298 | otherwise try to return it if you don't want it |
| 01:17.28 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, that's what im tried to do :d |
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| 01:17.34 | xxavi | hi |
| 01:17.40 | AndrewMock | How do I get Hyper-V's 'Type clipbaord text' feature working on jessie? |
| 01:17.40 | madprops | but the default config doesn't seem to work |
| 01:17.40 | Slimmy | axc1298: well just more portable. yeah it is my brother's. He doesn't really use it so I stole it |
| 01:17.41 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: now I have a clearer picture. :) |
| 01:17.50 | Slimmy | hi xxavi |
| 01:18.20 | xxavi | I lost image and keyboard, I logged in via ssh, how can I recover the image and keyboard ? |
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| 01:18.47 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: this should get you started quickly: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/ |
| 01:19.02 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: you'll enter that stuff in the config file(s) in /etc/squid* |
| 01:19.20 | Pegasus_RPG | then 'service squid restart' for it to take effect |
| 01:19.27 | Slimmy | xxavi: what do you mean you lost image? You can't see the gui? |
| 01:19.48 | xxavi | Slimmy: correct, I can't see any tty |
| 01:19.59 | Slimmy | xxavi: I am not the best guy but what people usually say is true... "Did you try turning it off and on?" :D |
| 01:20.02 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, is reverse proxy what im looking for? |
| 01:20.27 | xxavi | Slimmy: yes but I prefer not restart the machine |
| 01:20.37 | Slimmy | xxavi: give me a minute |
| 01:20.39 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: no, sounds like you just need a normal proxy, assuming your country is only blocking based on IP address or domain name as opposed to content examination & filtering |
| 01:20.42 | xxavi | Slimmy: ok, thanks |
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| 01:21.46 | Slimmy | xxavi: What does xrandr --query give you? |
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| 01:22.41 | xxavi | Slimmy: hmmm, I'm not in Xorg, I logged it via SSH now |
| 01:22.49 | Pegasus_RPG | xxavi: X may have crashed on you. look at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 01:22.49 | Pegasus_RPG | madprops: the default config I think does that. You just need to see what port it's listening on by looking at the config files |
| 01:22.58 | Ivoah | !sources |
| 01:22.58 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 01:23.26 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: not, I only lost the image on monitor and keyboard in machine but I logged it via SSH |
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| 01:24.59 | Pegasus_RPG | xxavi: that's what I'm saying: if you "lost the image" on the console, either 1) the X server crashed or 2) your monitor got unplugged or blew up. ;) |
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| 01:25.35 | Pegasus_RPG | xxavi: If you press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the console where you have no image, does anything happen? |
| 01:25.38 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: correct but X run fine and monitor is well connected |
| 01:25.58 | Slimmy | Its really late and got work early tomorrow. See ya all and thanks for all the help Pegasus_RPG axc1298 nuno_nunes |
| 01:26.07 | Pegasus_RPG | no problem Slimmy, have fun |
| 01:26.08 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: my keyboard don't run on machine too |
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| 01:26.17 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: I can't change the tty |
| 01:26.24 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: via keyboard |
| 01:26.56 | xxavi | Slimmy: goog night ! |
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| 01:27.03 | xxavi | good* |
| 01:27.11 | Pegasus_RPG | xxavi: okay. What desktop environment do you use? Gnome? KDE? |
| 01:27.19 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: KDE |
| 01:27.32 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: I running KDE in tty2 now |
| 01:27.38 | Pegasus_RPG | xxavi: okay then at the SSH prompt, do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 01:27.45 | Pegasus_RPG | you'll lose anything you had open |
| 01:28.14 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: this command stop all KDE programs ? |
| 01:28.18 | Pegasus_RPG | yes |
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| 01:28.55 | Pegasus_RPG | you could instead ask them all to terminate gracefully with kill -TERM -1 |
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| 01:29.06 | Pegasus_RPG | but any that have unsaved data will lose it |
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| 01:30.24 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: '/etc/init.d/kdm restart' any effect at the moment |
| 01:30.37 | Pegasus_RPG | once, as an inexperienced sysadmin, tried to resolve a hung process on a multi-user server by doing kill -9 -1 as root. The manager was not happy. |
| 01:31.43 | Pegasus_RPG | xxavi: then probably just ask the system to restart: sudo shutdown -r now |
| 01:32.15 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: ok, thanks |
| 01:32.48 | Pegasus_RPG | If it /still/ doesn't come up, then you might have bad hardware |
| 01:32.57 | Ivoah | Pegasus_RPG: The boot message pointed me to https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#devicefirmware |
| 01:33.06 | xxavi | Pegasus_RPG: ok, thanks |
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| 01:33.38 | Pegasus_RPG | Ivoah: cool. Then you'll need one of these: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&searchon=names&keywords=b43 |
| 01:34.40 | Ivoah | apt can't find the package :( |
| 01:35.15 | Pegasus_RPG | check your sources list |
| 01:35.24 | Pegasus_RPG | make sure "contrib" is in there |
| 01:37.14 | Ivoah | thanks |
| 01:37.18 | Pegasus_RPG | Ivoah: to be clear, you need one of the firmware-b43 ones (click on each to see the chipsets supported by them, then install the one that matches what lspci shows you) |
| 01:38.23 | rchavik | hello, trying to build nginx from source, when using apt-source nginx && dpkg-buildpackage, it builds all variations of nginx build like nginx-core, nginx-naxsi, etc. how would i trigger build only for the nginx-core package? |
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| 01:38.47 | Ivoah | Pegasus_RPG: yep |
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| 01:39.54 | Ivoah | so I apt-got the package, should I just reboot? |
| 01:40.24 | Ivoah | Pegasus_RPG: ^ |
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| 01:42.00 | Ivoah | Pegasus_RPG: Woo! It worked, thanks for the help :) |
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| 01:43.14 | madprops | Pegasus_RPG, it worked! i had to allow http_access .. now i can watch the stupid larry david impersonating bernie sanders video |
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| 01:45.48 | aZz7eCh | hi guys |
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| 01:49.29 | p8m | hi aZz7eCh |
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| 01:55.32 | Pegasus_RPG1 | Ivoah: sorry, yes |
| 01:55.39 | Pegasus_RPG1 | then check the syslog again |
| 01:55.44 | Ivoah | Pegasus_RPG1: I got it all worked out |
| 01:55.48 | Ivoah | wifi is working fine :) |
| 01:55.51 | Pegasus_RPG1 | awesome |
| 01:56.03 | Ivoah | thanks for the help |
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| 01:59.16 | Pegasus_RPG1 | no problem |
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| 02:40.55 | swift110-phone | Hey |
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| 03:12.17 | charli | `useradd -K UMASK=002` can set user umask in every where. Is there another way to do this after the user creation? `usermod` don't have `-K`, `umask` command need to run every time, and won't work for crontab. |
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| 03:49.53 | christo_m | hey, what does Operation not supported mean exactly when trying to use setfattr? |
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| 03:54.44 | quantic | christo_m: what are you trying to do? |
| 03:55.44 | christo_m | quantic: $ touch foobar && setfattr -n user.name -v val foobar |
| 03:55.44 | christo_m | setfattr: foobar: Operation not supported |
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| 03:56.57 | quantic | christo_m: Show me the mount output for the filesystem where you're creating the file. |
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| 03:58.00 | christo_m | quantic: /dev/sdb1 on /var/log/apache_logs type reiserfs (rw,nodev,user_xattr,user=www-data) |
| 03:59.47 | quantic | christo_m: and what, exactly, are you trying to place this attr on? |
| 04:00.28 | quantic | christo_m: and also, what version of debian are you running? |
| 04:00.59 | christo_m | sorry its technically ubuntu. |
| 04:01.14 | quantic | !ubuntu |
| 04:01.14 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 04:01.28 | quantic | christo_m: But, what version? |
| 04:01.32 | christo_m | Ubuntu 9.10 |
| 04:01.47 | quantic | christo_m: Then you won't receive much there, either. Upgrade to supported release. |
| 04:01.57 | christo_m | ya that isnt an option. |
| 04:02.03 | christo_m | im trying to do a local root exploit. |
| 04:02.17 | quantic | christo_m: then you're going to be on your own. |
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| 04:02.30 | quantic | You might try #ubuntu, but yeah. Doubtful. |
| 04:02.31 | christo_m | well back to my original question |
| 04:02.38 | christo_m | which would Operation not be supported |
| 04:02.41 | christo_m | why* |
| 04:02.53 | quantic | christo_m: Back to my original answer. |
| 04:02.59 | quantic | !ubuntu |
| 04:02.59 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 04:03.02 | itchyBalls | hola. i'm running debian 8.1 but phpinfo() is showing "3.13.0-57-generic #95-Ubuntu" |
| 04:03.05 | itchyBalls | any ideas why? |
| 04:03.12 | itchyBalls | does debian backport from ubuntu for php5? |
| 04:03.13 | christo_m | quantic: my question applies to linux though. |
| 04:03.21 | christo_m | unless setfattr is unique to ubuntu? |
| 04:03.22 | quantic | christo_m: Your question is off-topic in #debian. |
| 04:03.23 | christo_m | wasn't aware of this |
| 04:03.40 | quantic | christo_m: Because you're running an operating system that is not supported here. |
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| 04:03.46 | christo_m | so? |
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| 04:04.01 | christo_m | the question has to do with setfattr |
| 04:04.05 | quantic | christo_m: That's the end of the conversation. |
| 04:04.16 | christo_m | wel i should have lied and said debian |
| 04:04.20 | christo_m | lesson learned i guess |
| 04:04.27 | itchyBalls | guys, why would the PHP packages on debian 8.1 show "Ubuntu" under phpinfo() though? |
| 04:04.29 | christo_m | unless your solution was to upgrade regardless of what i was running. |
| 04:04.30 | itchyBalls | any ideas? |
| 04:04.49 | quantic | itchyBalls: That looks like the kernel version from the original Ubuntu 14.04 release. Odd. |
| 04:05.04 | itchyBalls | quantic: very odd lol |
| 04:05.11 | itchyBalls | because i'm def running debian 8.1 |
| 04:05.19 | itchyBalls | and always have been |
| 04:05.22 | itchyBalls | it's a fresh install |
| 04:05.28 | itchyBalls | i did apt-get install php5 |
| 04:05.35 | quantic | itchyBalls: dpkg-query -l php5 and tell me what version you've got? |
| 04:06.18 | adrian_1908 | hello. It seems Jessie comes with a default email program. I noticed that package `mutt` is installed. Can I safely remove it via the package manager and will that get rid of all "email" functionality, or is there more? Thanks. |
| 04:06.22 | itchyBalls | quantic: php5 5.6.14+dfsg- all |
| 04:06.33 | quantic | itchyBalls: yeah, that's most definitely the Debian version. |
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| 04:06.41 | quantic | itchyBalls: Lemme try to reproduce. |
| 04:06.51 | quantic | (out of context, that's a funny statement.) |
| 04:07.00 | itchyBalls | the compile date in june 19 2015 too |
| 04:07.04 | itchyBalls | which is very strange |
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| 04:09.22 | itchyBalls | quantic: i'm guessing debian borrowed something from ubuntu |
| 04:09.30 | itchyBalls | and that's why it's showing that under phpinfo() |
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| 04:10.00 | charli | tpenguinltg: wont't work on crontab. |
| 04:10.09 | quantic | itchyBalls: That's definitely not what I get. |
| 04:10.11 | quantic | itchyBalls: Linux uranium 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5 (2015-10-09) x86_64 |
| 04:10.33 | charli | `useradd -K UMASK=002` can set user umask in every where. Is there another way to do this after the user creation? `usermod` don't have `-K`, `umask` command need to run every time, and won't work for crontab. |
| 04:10.33 | itchyBalls | that's so weird |
| 04:10.37 | itchyBalls | quantic: sec |
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| 04:10.54 | itchyBalls | quantic: nope, nvm |
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| 04:11.07 | itchyBalls | i thought cloudflare might have been messing with php |
| 04:11.15 | itchyBalls | but i went directly to my web server, same thing |
| 04:11.21 | itchyBalls | very strange |
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| 04:11.48 | quantic | itchyBalls: pastebin your sources? |
| 04:11.48 | svetlana | hi a package was approved but it is not in testing yet (https://release.debian.org/britney/update_excuses.html#addresses-for-gnustep) how do I install it? I'm using debian jessie. I remember there was some term for installing such things and I would try to find it but I don't even understand which version the package already is right *now* |
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| 04:13.01 | itchyBalls | quantic: http://pastebin.com/kZCfsQ5Y |
| 04:13.29 | itchyBalls | i'm using digitalocean |
| 04:13.41 | quantic | itchyBalls: uname -a for me? |
| 04:14.06 | itchyBalls | quantic: Linux stewie.gopvd.com 3.13.0-57-generic #95-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 09:28:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 04:14.09 | itchyBalls | wttfffff |
| 04:14.12 | itchyBalls | is this the matrix? |
| 04:14.13 | quantic | itchyBalls: And THAT is why. DO's VMs run via the kernel of the host. |
| 04:14.14 | itchyBalls | what's going on? |
| 04:14.19 | itchyBalls | ohhhhhhhhh |
| 04:14.22 | itchyBalls | mind. blown. |
| 04:14.26 | itchyBalls | i didn't know that |
| 04:14.26 | quantic | itchyBalls: Probably Xen. |
| 04:14.30 | itchyBalls | yeah, it is xen |
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| 04:14.37 | itchyBalls | but why would uname -a show ubuntu? |
| 04:14.39 | itchyBalls | is that normal? |
| 04:14.49 | quantic | itchyBalls: Because your install doesn't boot its own kernel. It uses the host kernel. |
| 04:14.52 | itchyBalls | even though the guest OS is debian? |
| 04:14.57 | itchyBalls | okay okay |
| 04:15.02 | quantic | itchyBalls: Whatever version number the kernel reports is what uname sees. |
| 04:15.09 | itchyBalls | TIL |
| 04:15.18 | solrize | DO lets you install your own kernels i heard |
| 04:15.20 | quantic | itchyBalls: The host OS is, apparently, Ubuntu 14.04 using the original HWE stack. |
| 04:15.28 | quantic | solrize: TIL |
| 04:15.59 | solrize | and, DO is virtualizations not containers, i was pretty sure |
| 04:16.19 | quantic | solrize: It is, but it's not KVM. |
| 04:16.25 | solrize | xen pvm ? |
| 04:16.27 | itchyBalls | yeah, DO does use xen afaik |
| 04:16.38 | itchyBalls | so, that makes sense now. thanks quantic |
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| 04:56.06 | george_e | I don't understand how this package (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/golang-uuid-dev) has a valid version number according to Debian policy (http://www.fifi.org/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch-versions.html). Am I missing something? |
| 04:56.12 | george_e | "The upstream_version may contain only alphanumerics[14] and the characters . + - : (full stop, plus, hyphen, colon) and should start with a digit." |
| 04:56.29 | george_e | And yet, that package contains "~" in the version. |
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| 04:59.23 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, I have a question and I hope some one here could help me out :) I am running Jessie and using gstreamer to open a MP4 video using $gst-launch. I have installed all packages like : gstreamer0.10*, gstreamer1*, libgstreamer* and libx264 but I still have the following error : "Missing element: H.264 decoder". It seems Debian dropped gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in Jessie. I tried Wheezy but I have 1 error related to the old version of the library. Any help |
| 04:59.23 | tmh1999 | is appreciated. Thank you ! |
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| 05:00.43 | themill | george_e: you're not looking at the current version of policy, you're looking at a version that is 13 years out of date. |
| 05:01.02 | george_e | themill, ah, that would explain it. |
| 05:01.09 | george_e | Where is the latest policy posted? |
| 05:01.19 | george_e | I tried searching but all I found was the one I already linked to. |
| 05:01.39 | themill | unsurprisingly, you'd find it on debian.org ... https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version |
| 05:01.46 | george_e | themill, thanks. |
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| 05:02.08 | themill | (which is also the first google hit for "debian policy version") |
| 05:02.29 | george_e | Heh - weird that it didn't show up for me. Sorry about that. |
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| 05:07.27 | sorin-mihai | i was installing debian in a a vm and it asked me what to use for the console, as in utf8 and other stuff. is this new? i never saw it before |
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| 05:08.31 | stew | how does one enable emulate3buttons these days? |
| 05:08.36 | stew | themill: hey there |
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| 05:10.18 | gtristan | fonts seem to be a special kind of beast |
| 05:10.53 | gtristan | I am looking for the real, actual upstream of alee-ttf, the korean Hangul fonts by A. Lee |
| 05:11.06 | gtristan | but cannot seem to find where that actual project is hosted |
| 05:11.48 | gtristan | looking at, for example: https://packages.debian.org/sid/fonts/ttf-alee |
| 05:12.07 | gtristan | is there no place where the actual upstream source is listed in the debian website ? |
| 05:12.35 | gtristan | gets lost clicking links which all lead somewhere else on debian.org |
| 05:13.40 | stew | I think debian might actually be the upstream source for that one |
| 05:13.50 | george_e | ^--- this |
| 05:13.58 | tmh1999 | gtristan : http://ftp.tw.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fonts-alee/fonts-alee_13.1.tar.xz |
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| 05:14.05 | george_e | There's no Debian revision number in the version. |
| 05:14.15 | stew | its native packaged, and copyright file says that the copyright holder is alee@debian.org |
| 05:14.15 | george_e | So basically what stew said. |
| 05:14.27 | gtristan | aha ! |
| 05:14.42 | gtristan | ok thanks a lot :) |
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| 05:30.00 | CoolSockPuppets | where am I, the frickin' jungle? |
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| 05:43.27 | dagnagit | The home one will be used for that user |
| 05:44.04 | adrian_1908 | thanks |
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| 06:26.23 | nowprovision | can someone confirm the latest openssl package for an up to date debian 7 64bit server install (dpkg -l | grep openssl)? |
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| 06:31.22 | SirLagz | ,v openssl |
| 06:31.23 | judd | Package: openssl on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security-lts: 0.9.8o-4squeeze21; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u17; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u17; jessie: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u1; sid: 1.0.2d-3; stretch: 1.0.2d-3 |
| 06:31.42 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:31.49 | SirLagz | nowprovision: I would say 1.0.1e-2+deb7u17 |
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| 06:35.42 | nowprovision | or enterprise managed service provider has us on 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u2 |
| 06:35.51 | nowprovision | I don't have root but this doesn't look right |
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| 06:37.32 | themill | nowprovision: that sounds like an openssh version number not openssl |
| 06:37.54 | nowprovision | sorry i sec |
| 06:37.57 | AsBash------ | 2:35 PM <AsBash------> anybody knows how to provide r+w access to specific users on a shared drive. They are not part of the group and I cannot change the owner and the group of the folder. |
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| 06:48.07 | charli | AsBash------: `chmod o+rw x_file` give 'others' rw |
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| 06:48.20 | charli | `useradd -K UMASK=002` can set user umask in every where. Is there another way to do this after the user creation? `usermod` don't have `-K`, `umask` command need to run every time, and won't work for crontab. |
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| 06:49.22 | AsBash------ | so the syntax would be? |
| 06:49.44 | AsBash------ | for example I want to give Bob read and write access to /home/shared/test folder |
| 06:49.52 | AsBash------ | really do apologize very new to linux |
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| 06:50.19 | themill | charli: that only changes the modes on creating the new user's home directory, it doesn't change umask for later logins or crontab etc |
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| 06:53.53 | charli | themill: Oh, didn't noticed that, thanks. Is there any way I can get what I was expecting? |
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| 06:57.29 | themill | charli: you either set it in/prior to the command you run from cron or play with pam_umask for the crond service |
| 06:58.33 | charli | AsBash------: `cd /home/shared && chmod -R o+rw test` |
| 06:58.56 | themill | charli: or use a systemd timer and the UMask configuration key (I think... untested) |
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| 07:00.55 | charli | themill: I have read the first two, and thoght it's hackyish, there may be a better way :) checking the third, thanks. |
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| 07:01.41 | AsBash------ | thanks charli. But how about the user 'Bob' I want to give this specific user the access |
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| 07:03.51 | charli | AsBash------: add a new group and add Bob and the neccery user to it. But you will need chown to this group. |
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| 07:04.50 | AsBash------ | thanks charlli I cannot chown the group because the group needs to be the same |
| 07:04.58 | AsBash------ | and the specific users are not part of this group |
| 07:06.34 | charli | wher the group needs to be the same |
| 07:06.41 | charli | ? |
| 07:07.24 | charli | AsBash------: can't you just add those users to a same group? |
| 07:07.29 | AsBash------ | there is already a group that owns the folder. I cannot change the group. I just need to add specific users who are not part of that group to access the folder |
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| 07:07.55 | AsBash------ | I cannot add them to the group as well cause they are contractors |
| 07:08.05 | AsBash------ | and the folder owner is staff |
| 07:08.23 | AsBash------ | If I add them to the group they might be able to access some folders that they should not access |
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| 07:11.05 | charli | What I mean is: add a new group 'share', and all those users to 'share', and `chown` to 'share' |
| 07:11.05 | hyper_ch | hi there, I have a question regarding openvpn: Debian 8 changed from sysvinit to systemd. On Deb7 and before I could just copy the openvpn.conf file into /etc/openvpn/ and restarting openvpn would have started that. But this doesn't work with systemd anymore. How can I now autostart configs? |
| 07:12.58 | AsBash------ | might be a bit diffiult cause the current grou phas hundereds of users |
| 07:13.10 | AsBash------ | might be difficult to migrate them to a new group |
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| 07:14.04 | AsBash------ | can I still retain the group ownership and just provide 2 users r+w access to that folder |
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| 07:14.36 | charli | AsBash------: One user could have many groups. |
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| 07:14.42 | temhaa | hell |
| 07:14.44 | temhaa | hello |
| 07:15.16 | temhaa | I have a question about inventory software. I couldnt find true channel so I am here. |
| 07:15.34 | AsBash------ | but I can't add that user to the current group since he is a cotractor and the group who owns the folder are 'staff' |
| 07:15.58 | temhaa | Can you suggest very good inventory software to in my debian system |
| 07:16.47 | charli | AsBash------: `usermod -G share charli` will just add a new group share to charli, he still belongs to 'staff' group. |
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| 07:20.04 | AsBash------ | thanks Charli. So what would be the syntax if I want to provide 'Bob' access to /home/shared/test and the group owner of the folde ris "staff" and the Bob is a member of "contractors" |
| 07:20.51 | charli | AsBash------: typing, and what kind of corporation need so many user on one machine? |
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| 07:22.05 | AsBash------ | oh its a shared folder |
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| 07:25.02 | charli | AsBash------: find a better way |
| 07:25.14 | charli | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8138/add-all-users-in-one-group-to-another-grouphttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8138/add-all-users-in-one-group-to-another-group |
| 07:25.25 | charli | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8138/add-all-users-in-one-group-to-another-group |
| 07:26.01 | charli | AsBash------: check second answer |
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| 07:27.14 | AsBash------ | ah got it! :) this would work. thanks a bunch |
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| 07:31.26 | charli | AsBash------: I learn something new too. :) What's 'shared folder'? does all the staff need to login to one machine? I never worked for big ones before. |
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| 07:37.14 | tkl2 | Is there anyone who can help me oput quick building a package? |
| 07:37.31 | tkl2 | I get an error i cannot fix |
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| 07:38.02 | tkl2 | http://pastebin.com/JFee10F9 |
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| 07:44.51 | AsBash------ | yep. over 100 people access that shared folder. but we are divided into staff and contractors |
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| 07:45.21 | AsBash------ | contractors cannot access all the folders but specific contractors needs access to specific folders |
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| 07:56.29 | CruX|_ | natively |
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| 08:28.41 | nowprovision | Ulrar, all very easy with supervisord |
| 08:28.57 | nowprovision | although might be overkill for your needs |
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| 08:29.50 | Ulrar | Ha yeah, maybe :D |
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| 08:56.56 | tite12345 | HI! |
| 08:57.03 | tite12345 | Does Debian have an OT channel? |
| 08:57.37 | pfote | #debian-offtopic |
| 08:58.02 | tite12345 | pfote: Thanks a lot! |
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| 09:28.00 | SpaghettiCat | Hello, I'm thinking about which debian version to install. Is ArchLinux more like sid or more like testing, in terms of stability and recency of packages? |
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| 09:30.23 | GNU\colossus | SpaghettiCat, probably more like sid/unstable |
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| 09:31.42 | SpaghettiCat | Hmm I see. I chose testing and still get annoying incompatibilities, even with 1 year-old packages |
| 09:32.03 | GNU\colossus | SpaghettiCat, like which ones, for example? |
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| 09:33.23 | SpaghettiCat | GNU\colossus: I'm trying to install redmine (bug tracker) for my team to use. But thy `ruby-mysql2` package was bulit for an older version of MySQL server than the one provided by `mysql-server`. There's already a bug report from 3 months ago: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794477 |
| 09:33.25 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/794477 in ruby-mysql2 (open): «ruby-mysql2: Unversioned dependency on libmysqlclient18 leads to unusable package in testing»; severity: important; opened: 2015-08-03; last modified: 2015-08-07. |
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| 09:34.12 | GNU\colossus | SpaghettiCat, for production setups, I'd strongly advise you to stick to stable/jessie. |
| 09:35.15 | SpaghettiCat | GNU\colossus: it's not that production. It wouldn't be such big deal if it was down for a day. I don't want a version of redmine from years ago |
| 09:35.53 | GNU\colossus | SpaghettiCat, web applications are one of the very few things you might want to install from source then; even without building a package yourself |
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| 09:36.39 | SpaghettiCat | GNU\colossus: redmine has a million dependencies, ruby, apache, mysql.... won't I have to build the most recent versions of those, too? |
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| 09:37.44 | GNU\colossus | well, re-use the debian components you can live with. apache will surely work, so will mariadb/mysql. the ruby runtime will probably wok as well with the latest redmine release, but you'll (I guess) have to roll a few gems locally. |
| 09:37.47 | tite12345 | Is Steam safe to install in Debian? |
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| 09:38.04 | tite12345 | I'm privacy, anonymity and security minded. |
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| 09:38.19 | tite12345 | I follow Jacob Appelbaum, Yan Zhu, and others :) |
| 09:38.25 | GNU\colossus | SpaghettiCat, the way I handle this is this: I create a dedicated system user on a per-application basis, and install the app and its required dependencies into the user account's home directory. then front-end that installation by a Debian-provided httpd implementation (apache or nginx) |
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| 09:38.50 | GNU\colossus | tite12345, no proprietary software *ever* is, don't you think? :) |
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| 09:40.11 | SpaghettiCat | GNU\colossus: boy is that a lot of work... to manually go through dependency hell and manage multiple versions of packages side-by-side.... |
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| 09:40.41 | Jubaleth | morning all |
| 09:40.58 | GNU\colossus | SpaghettiCat, yup. that's why I try to have most deps satisified by Debian-provided packages. |
| 09:41.03 | GNU\colossus | it works, for the software we use |
| 09:42.39 | SpaghettiCat | I will try to get some MySQL packages from sid and see if it fixes it. If it doesn't I'll think about installing Arch or Debian Stable and living with a mouldy redmine |
| 09:42.43 | SpaghettiCat | I appreciate the help :) |
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| 09:48.16 | SpaghettiCat | If I'm trying to install package `redmine` that depends on `ruby-mysql2` (that is compiled for an older version of MySQL), how can I install the latest `mysql2` with the `gem` command so that `redmine` is satisfied? |
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| 09:49.31 | SpaghettiCat | I mean I already installed this new gem, but when I install `redmine` it uses the package `ruby-mysql2` (the older gem) |
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| 09:53.12 | darxmurf | Guys, I need your experience :-) |
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| 09:54.12 | darxmurf | I have a few computing machines (dual xeon 6 core, 64Gb RAM, nvidia CUDA), running standard debian system with default kernel. Will I gain in performances if I compile a home made Kernel ? |
| 09:54.29 | darxmurf | those machines are running chemistry computation |
| 09:54.43 | darxmurf | 7/24, eating 100% CPU and GPU |
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| 09:55.49 | fireba11 | i woudn't expect more than a few single % difference |
| 09:56.27 | SPF | possibly a little bit |
| 09:56.40 | jelly | I always forget: what's the term for "main", "contrib" and "non-free" (or "universe" or "multiverse" in ubuntu) parts of the repo? |
| 09:56.54 | darxmurf | if it's only a few % I will keep it like this :) |
| 09:57.24 | darxmurf | maybe I could try Quadro cards instead of Geforces |
| 09:58.01 | jelly | darxmurf: it will be a few % anyway |
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| 09:59.36 | adrian_1908 | anyone here know the basics about the OpenCL related packages in Debian? I'm a little unsure what to choose. |
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| 10:10.14 | Olof_szary | Hello. I am using debian testing. Is there a way to install filezilla here? I've only found this: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=filezilla |
| 10:10.40 | Olof_szary | so jessie sid and wheezy-backports |
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| 10:11.47 | SpaghettiCat | Olof_szary: so what's the problem? |
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| 10:14.18 | Olof_szary | SpaghettiCat: apt-get install filezilla -> Package filezilla is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 10:14.59 | jelly | dpkg, tell Olof_szary about debian-next |
| 10:15.07 | jelly | dpkg, tell Olof_szary about why is filezilla not in testing |
| 10:15.11 | jelly | dpkg, tell Olof_szary about tum |
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| 10:15.33 | jelly | Olof_szary: dpkg bot told you some relevant stuff in private messages. |
| 10:15.46 | Olof_szary | jelly: I've seen it, thanks |
| 10:16.19 | SpaghettiCat | dpkg, tell SpaghettiCat about tum |
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| 10:18.02 | Olof_szary | since I am fortunate today, maybe you know something about Lustre + debian |
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| 10:18.54 | Olof_szary | I found only very old wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/Lustre |
| 10:19.13 | SpaghettiCat | dpkg, tell SpaghettiCat about why is filezilla not in testing |
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| 10:38.06 | at0m | SpaghettiCat: you can also just msg dpkg, if the info's for yourself... |
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| 10:38.46 | SpaghettiCat | ah thanks |
| 10:39.08 | darxmurf | I have a samba share on a machine linked with ActiveDirectory. I can connect fine with a windows machine but some OSx can not connect. In my logs I have NT_STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD. |
| 10:39.16 | darxmurf | but the password is correct... |
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| 10:39.34 | darxmurf | anybody is using this kind of stuf ? |
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| 10:43.10 | jelly | c|oneman: probably, unless an already installed wheezy package conflicts with it |
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| 10:48.28 | ws2k3 | systemd realy sucks now software do not provide any errors from the init script anymore |
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| 10:53.27 | cast | ws2k3: i run debian sans systemd, was quite straight forward |
| 10:54.06 | cast | ws2k3: at times there are some annoyances, systemd has its tendrils in deep |
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| 10:58.35 | indus3al | im on linux training these days and since its kinda boring id like to know if i can remotely shut down the debin of my colleage sitting one row in front of me , but he hastn ssh installed yet :) any possibilities? i know his ip and root pwd ^^ |
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| 11:00.52 | indus3al | not a very stable connection either.... |
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| 11:04.23 | GNU\colossus | does anyone in here use imapproxy on Jessie with any success? |
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| 11:07.07 | Lionyx | hello |
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| 11:08.13 | Lionyx | why my /var/log/dmesg is empty? is it because debian uses systemd? |
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| 11:13.34 | HD|Laptop | Hi |
| 11:13.52 | HD|Laptop | I have shrank an ext4 filesystem to 5GB using resize2fs /dev/sdb 5G |
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| 11:14.06 | HD|Laptop | How do I now, with parted or any other tool, also shrink the partition itself? |
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| 11:14.49 | evilman_work | HD|Laptop: use the gparted with gui |
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| 11:15.00 | HD|Laptop | evilman_work, raspberry pi, no GUI there |
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| 11:15.41 | SynrG | i assume you've looked at the 'resizepart' command in the parted man page? |
| 11:15.59 | SynrG | if so, is there some confusion about it? |
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| 11:16.54 | dreamer | does anyone know how to use systemd inside linux containers? |
| 11:17.05 | dreamer | I've been looking at these instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Linux_Containers#Systemd_considerations_.28required.29 - but no luck |
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| 11:18.05 | SynrG | dreamer: break it down for us. what, specifically, have you done, and where are you stuck? commands typed, visible output ... |
| 11:18.41 | HD|Laptop | SynrG: it expects an end sector but how to calculate it? |
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| 11:19.51 | SynrG | HD|Laptop: i think it allows you to suffix any unit, not just sectors |
| 11:20.08 | HD|Laptop | END is disk location, such as 4GB or 10%. |
| 11:20.26 | HD|Laptop | I dont want to risk data loss by specifying the wrong sector |
| 11:20.50 | SynrG | see the 'unit' command for units you can specify |
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| 11:21.06 | SynrG | (you don't need to actually issue a 'unit' command. just use one of the suffixes listed there) |
| 11:21.38 | ewew | HD|Laptop Best would be backup data. |
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| 11:23.09 | dreamer | SynrG: I've set up an lxc container (using proxmox, based on jessie) and trying 'systemctl' which returns: 'root@yuno:/var/log# systemctl |
| 11:23.12 | dreamer | Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1' |
| 11:23.35 | SynrG | HD|Laptop: if you find this too fiddly and want the gui to help, you could install gparted on the pi and use ssh -X to the pi and start the gui |
| 11:23.54 | HD|Laptop | hmm |
| 11:24.47 | SynrG | dreamer: i dunno, but proxmox is not supported here. sorry :/ |
| 11:24.54 | SynrG | !proxmox |
| 11:24.54 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 11:25.04 | SynrG | dreamer: we don't know if this is an issue specific to proxmox or not |
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| 11:26.19 | SynrG | i'm out. gotta work. later |
| 11:26.21 | dreamer | it's an issue specific to systemd. lxc-people told me that it would only work for privileged containers. which means that you basically break the whole jails idea |
| 11:26.56 | dreamer | so, meh. |
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| 11:29.16 | GeHa | Ive been reading article about xfs, that it is the most reliable file system so I made it my default 500GB storage... if it were ext4 I would have already been able to copy the files from it with testdisk. (althought testdisk is suppose to read files on xfs too..... :/) Do you know about xfs or testdisk to help access the files ? |
| 11:29.17 | SynrG | dreamer: assuming proxmox is a means to an end only, and it could be set up purely on debian, #debian-systemd @ irc.oftc.net might be able to point you in the right direction for debian containers |
| 11:29.37 | dreamer | SynrG: thnx. will check it out |
| 11:30.43 | SynrG | dreamer: and in general, broaden your search for solutions to debian in containers vs. narrowing it down to 'how to do systemd in lxc on proxmox' |
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| 11:31.30 | dreamer | heh. I'll try ;) |
| 11:31.44 | SynrG | good luck. later |
| 11:32.19 | iNs | which shadow package version do you need to be able to administer subuids and subguids? |
| 11:32.37 | iNs | i am already aware the version that comes with wheezy doesnt have this and i guess it relies on shadow, doesnt it? |
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| 11:40.09 | enoch | hi all |
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| 11:40.24 | enoch | my nginx + fpm5 server is soo slow, why? |
| 11:40.28 | enoch | how to debug it? |
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| 11:47.05 | tdn | I cannot seem to find any freenx packages in Debian. As far as I can read, this software is GPL and also widely used. Why is it not included as a debian package? |
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| 11:56.11 | HD|Laptop | hmm... I set chmod a+s on /var/www/html |
| 11:56.34 | HD|Laptop | However newly created files still end up with uid 0, only the gid is set to www-data, why? |
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| 12:00.11 | superlinux | hi. I assume that you know what the command `wall` does. how can I have the message of `wall` in KDE in a pop up message? |
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| 12:05.23 | SynrG | HD|Laptop: according to coreutils.info, only 'some' systems support set uid inheritance vs. 'most' support group inheritance. |
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| 12:05.40 | HD|Laptop | yeah, reading in Wikipedia told me... too bad :/ |
| 12:07.11 | SynrG | HD|Laptop: and http://superuser.com/questions/471844/why-is-setuid-ignored-on-directories |
| 12:07.17 | SynrG | some good arguments there against it |
| 12:08.02 | SynrG | so basically, it's not supported because of the 'file giveaway' issue. it's just generally a bad idea. |
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| 12:10.56 | SynrG | superlinux: kwrited? i am not a kde user ... |
| 12:11.20 | SynrG | going by package description only, that seems to be its purpose |
| 12:11.32 | superlinux | SynrG, let me check |
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| 12:12.07 | superlinux | SynrG, no no no.. |
| 12:12.25 | SynrG | isn't a wall a 'broadcast message'? |
| 12:12.38 | superlinux | SynrG, yes correct |
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| 12:15.12 | SynrG | superlinux: so did i misunderstand what you want? |
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| 12:16.00 | superlinux | SynrG, yes.. but googling told me that I should fix the notifications in control panel of KDE |
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| 12:16.37 | SynrG | gotcha |
| 12:16.54 | SynrG | simply a matter of misconfiguration, then |
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| 12:17.22 | SynrG | superlinux: bad default setting, or something you messed up? |
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| 12:18.05 | superlinux | SynrG, no . just an inconvenient default |
| 12:18.09 | SynrG | i'd think a desktop would reasonably be expected to present broadcasts as passive notifications by default |
| 12:18.27 | SynrG | i question the rationale for defaulting it to not |
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| 12:18.59 | superlinux | I get the message from my server, but kde just tells me it, I will have to raise the terminal window to see it |
| 12:19.20 | SynrG | ugh |
| 12:19.30 | superlinux | kde only tells me that there's a message without showing it. |
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| 12:19.52 | SynrG | ok. so it's attempting to be non-intrusive? |
| 12:20.01 | superlinux | I will have to test the new setting. |
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| 12:20.18 | superlinux | SynrG, I think so. yes KDE is acting polite. heh ⺠|
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| 12:20.58 | superlinux | I mean it's behaving politely |
| 12:21.26 | SynrG | yep. makes sense |
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| 13:30.21 | cheater | hi. i would like to boot a debian off an usb stick, with the 4.3 kernel. could someone suggest a good way to get there please? i need this in order to debug some kernel issues. |
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| 13:37.05 | nkuttler | cheater: well, what's the problem? |
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| 13:48.16 | SirLagz | cheater: install debian onto the USB stick and update the kernel? |
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| 13:53.05 | cheater | hmm |
| 13:53.15 | cheater | SirLagz: but how do i do that given that i only have one usb stick, and no CD drive? |
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| 13:54.33 | weva | hello everyone, what I have just seen is that the 'blocks' in the output of 'fdisk -l' gives the difference between start-end sectors divided by two, and rounded to next integer. without dividing it into two, it gives the 'size' in the output of 'sfdisk -d'..can I take this as a reference to convert an fdisk output into an sfdisk one? |
| 13:54.53 | SirLagz | cheater: do you already have a working computer? |
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| 13:56.07 | Brigo | cheater, how to install debian on a usb? |
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| 13:58.23 | nkuttler | cheater: you can just make a normal debian install on your usb drive and upgrade the kernel from it |
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| 13:59.04 | nkuttler | oh wait, you need to boot the installer.. is that the problem? |
| 13:59.11 | SirLagz | nkuttler: that would seem so. |
| 13:59.23 | SirLagz | I was going to suggest using VirtualBox with USB passthrough to install Debian onto the USB stick |
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| 13:59.55 | nkuttler | or debian-live, or network install if there is another box |
| 14:00.05 | Brigo | installing testing? |
| 14:01.17 | cheater | SirLagz: yeah |
| 14:01.21 | cheater | SirLagz: it's a laptop |
| 14:01.33 | SirLagz | cheater: ok. So I would use VirtualBox to install Debian onto the USB stick. |
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| 14:02.06 | cheater | huh? how would you do that? |
| 14:02.11 | nkuttler | cheater: what would booting the usb with a different kernel accomplish though? can't you just install a new kernel in your existing system |
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| 14:02.59 | jelly | also, what purpose would doing a proper install onto a stick serve that using a live-usb debian cannot do? |
| 14:03.01 | cheater | nkuttler: the idea is to make sure nothing in my desktop is messing up my disk performance and to make sure it's the driver that's being crappy |
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| 14:03.16 | jelly | !firmware live |
| 14:03.16 | dpkg | Unofficial <live> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for using Debian 8 "jessie" as a live OS are available under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ . See also <firmware images>. |
| 14:03.30 | jelly | cheater: why install, just use live? |
| 14:03.32 | quantic | cheater: how would simply installing a second kernel not tell you that? |
| 14:03.32 | cheater | jelly: i don't need "a proper install", I just want to have 4.3 on it |
| 14:03.48 | jelly | ah |
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| 14:03.57 | cheater | quantic: well, the idea is to make sure nothing on my desktop is messing up my disk performance. |
| 14:04.04 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 14:04.05 | quantic | cheater: yeah, I saw that already. |
| 14:04.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-trunk-686-pae (4.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.5-1); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u5) |
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| 14:04.42 | cheater | quantic: then you should know that the idea is to make sure nothing on my desktop is messing up my disk performance. installing a new kernel doesn't isolate that away. |
| 14:04.46 | quantic | cheater: what disk performance are you getting? You mentioned a laptop. SSD or traditional? |
| 14:05.05 | jelly | cheater: have you ruled out the usual disk performance suspects (cfq io scheduler, dirty_background_ratio)? |
| 14:05.16 | quantic | cheater: Uh, yeah, that's where the disconnect is. I can think of (insert large number here) ways to verify that without this weird road you're going down. |
| 14:05.38 | cheater | right so i have a fairly big btrfs disk (not on debian, it's on ubuntu) and when i write a lot to it i get periodic freezes and the io is really crappy at times (like 100s of KB/s) |
| 14:05.45 | jelly | !goal |
| 14:05.45 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 14:05.57 | jelly | oh, btrfs |
| 14:06.18 | jelly | blames the alpha-qualify fs software |
| 14:06.20 | quantic | Yeah, that filesystem that's not actually FINISHED yet... |
| 14:06.23 | cheater | and i went to the btrfs mailing list and the developers asked me to boot off a new system with 4.3 on it and see if that still is the case |
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| 14:06.37 | quantic | cheater: And this is an Ubuntu system? |
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| 14:06.48 | nkuttler | cheater: if you use experimental filesystems you should invest in one or more additional drives |
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| 14:07.09 | cheater | nkuttler: why would i? |
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| 14:07.15 | nkuttler | shrugs |
| 14:07.19 | jelly | cheater: so, once you have Debian, install the 4.3 kernel from experimental. Or grab 4.3 from ubuntu's kernel people ppa |
| 14:07.36 | cheater | jelly: how do i get to the point that i have debian? |
| 14:07.52 | nkuttler | jelly: i think he wants debian with 4.3 on his usb stick, but has only one stick so no device to boot the installer... |
| 14:08.01 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to make a hotkey Super + Scroll Up/Down to adjust volume? |
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| 14:08.38 | nkuttler | cheater: actually, you can boot isos from your hd.. |
| 14:08.43 | nkuttler | if we're going there.. |
| 14:09.00 | nkuttler | cheater: grub-imageboot |
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| 14:09.23 | jelly | cheater: or get a second usb disk (stick), first |
| 14:10.02 | jelly | but honestly I'd avoid debian completely and just grab 4.3 for your ACTUAL distro |
| 14:10.23 | cheater | jelly: why |
| 14:10.33 | cheater | jelly: i have 4.3 for ubuntu |
| 14:10.33 | cheater | but |
| 14:10.37 | jelly | because it's simpler and easier. |
| 14:10.44 | cheater | on my desktop i still see the freezes |
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| 14:10.59 | jelly | cheater: and did you report that back to the author(s) |
| 14:11.03 | quantic | cheater: then the new kernel didn't help, and... that. ^ |
| 14:11.07 | cheater | so i'm thinking, maybe it's something that the ubuntu maintainers messed up |
| 14:11.09 | cheater | OR |
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| 14:11.16 | cheater | it's something on my current install |
| 14:11.33 | cheater | and i thought the debian kernel is nearer to upstream than ubuntu's? |
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| 14:11.42 | cheater | which should be good? |
| 14:11.47 | quantic | or, more likely, btrfs is btrfs. |
| 14:12.18 | jelly | quantic: given that cheater is _working_ on debugging btrfs, that's not an issue any more |
| 14:12.54 | cheater | i appreciate help rather than childish quips |
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| 14:13.19 | nkuttler | yet you don't work the problem, you argue here.. |
| 14:13.30 | cheater | ??????????? |
| 14:13.46 | nkuttler | you could already be installing debian |
| 14:13.59 | quantic | Uh, my comment was made in seriousness. Given the state of btrfs, I'd venture that it's more likely that you've encountered some edge case in btrfs that's causing issues. |
| 14:13.59 | cheater | why don't you go and grief someone else? |
| 14:14.11 | cheater | have you got nothing to do? |
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| 14:15.50 | quantic | cheater: When you're encountering these issues, is it the entire system that's freezing, or just the writing process? |
| 14:16.21 | cheater | it is the entire system that is freezing - to the effect that if i'm typing something, usually what i typed during that time gets lost |
| 14:16.48 | cheater | one way to trigger is to delete a file (even a small one) off that fairly large drive i have hooked up |
| 14:17.13 | quantic | cheater: How large? |
| 14:17.16 | cheater | another is to start up utorrent and watch the download rate graph. any time it spikes up usually brings a freeze. |
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| 14:17.27 | cheater | well, the disk is 6 tb, and it has maybe 100GB free? |
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| 14:17.54 | cheater | 5.5 TB according to DF |
| 14:17.56 | cheater | err |
| 14:17.58 | cheater | according to d |
| 14:18.01 | cheater | df. jesus. |
| 14:18.03 | quantic | cheater: Hmm. IF you haven't progressed in about ten hours, come back here and ping me. I've got a system with that amount of storage handy, we can do some testing. |
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| 14:18.54 | cheater | alright. i would find it interesting just to find out how to run a command like rm and find out what btrfs is doing exactly. thanks for the help. |
| 14:19.06 | quantic | cheater: strace MIGHT help you. |
| 14:19.16 | quantic | but I don't know if it digs into kernel calls at all. |
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| 14:20.34 | cheater | strace goes as deep as sys calls |
| 14:20.46 | cheater | so rm will just end up being unlink |
| 14:21.48 | JyZyXEL | /bin/sh: line 1: 10261 Aborted fswebcam -r 640x480 -S 20 /var/www/webcam.jpg &>/dev/null |
| 14:21.56 | JyZyXEL | cron daemon send me these, what does it mean? |
| 14:22.15 | JyZyXEL | i thought the &>/dev/null should make it not email me? |
| 14:23.12 | JyZyXEL | perhaps i need to add &disown to it? |
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| 14:24.46 | jelly | JyZyXEL: the output may be redirected, but the command still failed with a nonzero exit code |
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| 14:25.14 | jelly | also &> sounds like bash-specific redirection syntax |
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| 14:25.30 | JyZyXEL | i wonder what i should do? |
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| 14:26.47 | JyZyXEL | there is probably some tool for this? |
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| 14:28.25 | jelly | ideally you would figure out why the command barfs, instead of hiding the output |
| 14:28.53 | JyZyXEL | bugs in the driver, cannot be helped |
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| 14:29.18 | jelly | alternatively, you'd run a cron job script that not only ignores the output, but also ends with "exit 0" |
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| 14:30.55 | JyZyXEL | */1 * * * * sh -c 'fswebcam -r 640x480 -S 20 /var/www/webcam.jpg >/dev/null 2>&1; exit 0' |
| 14:30.57 | JyZyXEL | like that? |
| 14:31.08 | jelly | yes |
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| 14:31.52 | JyZyXEL | well, at least now i have that atrocity in my crontab file as an example, when i need to do it again... |
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| 14:32.40 | JyZyXEL | nasty trap that bash specific &> redirection that ends up being executed by 'sh' instead of bash |
| 14:33.09 | JyZyXEL | none of those things came to mind when writing it |
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| 14:39.46 | tdn | I have a file server with ~10 TB data. I am starting to become worried about data corruption. So I would really like some way of checksumming the data. I can do that manually by having a script run through all files and do an md5sum and then maintain a database. However, this is both tedius, error prone and also inefficient. I know that ZFS has implemented features for this directly in the filesystem. But ZFS is not available in Linux. So what other options are th |
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| 14:40.49 | jelly | tdn: zfs is available on linux, just not in mainline kernel (and not in debian yet). See #zfsonlinux channel |
| 14:41.30 | tdn | jelly, yeah, so I would really like to know what options there are supported in Debian. |
| 14:41.55 | tdn | jelly, but should I take it as you recommend using the zfsonlinux dkms driver in Debian? |
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| 14:42.30 | jelly | it's certainly an option to strongly consider if you care about on-disk data corruption at all |
| 14:43.13 | jelly | note that there are hardware requirements other than disk/storage subsystem (ECC RAM is a requirement) |
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| 14:43.57 | frostschutz | tdn, corruption caused by what? filesystems won't care if your image viewer corrupts every image its viewing |
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| 14:44.33 | ewew | i think he means hw caused corruption. |
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| 14:46.26 | tdn | ewew, correct, I mean hw caused corruption. |
| 14:46.43 | tdn | jelly, I was not aware there were hw requirements. I do not currently have EEC RAM. Or at least I am not sure. |
| 14:46.58 | frostschutz | tdn, I don't do filesystem level checksumming (yet?) but I do check my RAID for mismatches in parity data, so if a single disk starts acting funny, I'd notice. hard disks do their own error checking though and so far I trust that |
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| 14:47.28 | jelly | tdn: you'd know if you did (there's an obvious price premium) |
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| 14:47.38 | tdn | frostschutz, I already have raid1 using mdadm. I guess it is checking automatically every so often by default? |
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| 14:48.03 | jelly | tdn: if there is a bitflip md raid1 won't know which copy is the correct one |
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| 14:48.07 | ewew | RAID is not backup method. |
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| 14:49.05 | tdn | jelly, yeah, I know. Just like with my current script to do md5sums, I do not have a way to fix the error only detect it. So if that happens, I will have to recover the particular file from backup. I would do the same if RAID check failed, I guess. |
| 14:49.10 | frostschutz | tdn, not sure (particularly if it would tell you about mismatches) |
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| 14:49.34 | tdn | ewew, I do not use it as backup :) |
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| 14:49.44 | ewew | ok. |
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| 15:03.25 | linuxd | ewew: I upgraded Bios which seems to have fixed it,thanx |
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| 15:04.06 | ewew | linuxd On my system i had such error, but it appeard only once that i know about it. |
| 15:04.45 | linuxd | ewew: do you also have an AMD processor? |
| 15:04.59 | ewew | linuxd yes AMD-FX4100 black edition. |
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| 15:05.23 | linuxd | mint is FX4300 black |
| 15:05.30 | linuxd | mint is FX6300 black |
| 15:05.45 | linuxd | mine* |
| 15:05.46 | abrotman | linuxd: that was my idea! :) |
| 15:05.53 | abrotman | linuxd: Glad it worked for you |
| 15:06.00 | yoLo_ | what can i do when it is says No root file system is defined ? |
| 15:06.07 | linuxd | abrotman: yeah,thanx |
| 15:06.13 | abrotman | yoLo_: as you YOLO .. you move on with life .. |
| 15:06.20 | yoLo_ | i have allocated 20GB for my linux OS which now marked as free space |
| 15:06.25 | abrotman | yoLo_: in what circumstance? Which version of Linux is this? |
| 15:06.31 | yoLo_ | ubuntu |
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| 15:06.39 | abrotman | yoLo_: then you'd ask #ubuntu |
| 15:06.45 | yoLo_ | i know abrot |
| 15:06.51 | abrotman | apparently not .. |
| 15:06.51 | yoLo_ | abrotman: i have tried |
| 15:07.07 | abrotman | not our problem, ask #ubuntu, or maybe try ##linux. We don't support Ubuntu here. |
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| 15:07.15 | yoLo_ | lol |
| 15:07.18 | yoLo_ | ok thanks |
| 15:07.19 | abrotman | indeed .. |
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| 15:27.03 | JyZyXEL | % pactl set-sink-input-volume "sink-input-by-application-name:Chromium" 50% |
| 15:27.05 | JyZyXEL | Invalid sink input index |
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| 15:27.12 | JyZyXEL | any ideas how to make that happen? |
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| 15:29.06 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: you seem to have zsh, it does autocompletion for me |
| 15:29.18 | teraflops | so 0 1 and so on |
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| 15:29.57 | JyZyXEL | i think it needs the actual sink number |
| 15:30.05 | teraflops | yes it does |
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| 15:30.16 | JyZyXEL | i thought i could have used the module-stream-restore.id |
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| 15:30.37 | JyZyXEL | how do i get the sink number for chromium? :P |
| 15:30.42 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: you can also set the default one as in: pactl set-default-sink 0 1 etc etc |
| 15:31.28 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: chromiun is not a sink |
| 15:31.45 | JyZyXEL | ok, a sink-input |
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| 15:33.54 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: |
| 15:33.57 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:35.05 | JyZyXEL | hard to make it into a hotkey though |
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| 15:35.51 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: sure because it has to accept a param |
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| 15:36.10 | teraflops | unless you use some zenity thingy |
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| 15:36.23 | JyZyXEL | a dynamic parameter |
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| 15:36.57 | JyZyXEL | it looked like the 'module-stream-restore.id' was made just to get around this problem |
| 15:36.59 | JyZyXEL | i guess not |
| 15:37.12 | teraflops | hmm |
| 15:37.19 | teraflops | idk |
| 15:37.26 | JyZyXEL | has to be awk'ed |
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| 15:38.04 | teraflops | yeah sure it can be done but idk if it worths the effort |
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| 15:41.02 | JyZyXEL | would have been simpler if i could've used other parameters than index number |
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| 15:47.06 | yang | How do you specify "reportbug" to dump the bugreport into a file (instead of submitting t odebia ntracker) ? |
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| 15:48.13 | jordanm | yang: -o <filename> |
| 15:48.29 | yang | thank you |
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| 16:19.47 | Doxin | so something has gone wrong with my videodriver. openGL stopped working. glxinfo gives me "extension "GLX" missing on display ":0"." |
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| 16:22.13 | TheWarden | Hi, how do I fix this... when I try to chroot chroot.raspbian-armhf/ ... I get "chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory". |
| 16:22.25 | TheWarden | I tried just coping /bin/bash to chroot-raspbian-armhf/bin/bash but that didn't help. |
| 16:22.30 | greycat | You need a /bin/bash *and* all of its shared libs inside your chroot. |
| 16:22.50 | greycat | Plus the ld.so loader and so on. All of the infrastructure needed to execute programs. |
| 16:22.55 | TheWarden | greycat: I figured as much and that makes sense but how do I go about doing that? |
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| 16:23.38 | chizbang | I tried to change my cursor theme (which seems to be basically impossible) and now im stuck with one specific cursor theme and permissions issues :( |
| 16:23.57 | chizbang | update-alternatives: error: error creating symbolic link `/etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme.dpkg-tmp': Permission denied |
| 16:24.00 | chizbang | every god damn time.. |
| 16:24.58 | mtn | chizbang, which desktop? |
| 16:25.18 | chizbang | Openbox |
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| 16:26.04 | mtn | chizbang, most desktops have a gui tool to change cursor, but I don't know how it works in openbox. |
| 16:26.05 | chizbang | mtn: its also strange that lxappearance wont let me change my cursor theme either. I try setting it in there but it does nothing |
| 16:26.21 | chizbang | uisually lxappearance, it was in Crunchbang iirc |
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| 16:27.43 | zykotick9 | chizbang: you are aware update-alternatives needs to be run as root right? |
| 16:28.17 | chizbang | zykotick9: Oh? I've done it before without that, unless hthats my sleep deprivation telling me that... xD |
| 16:28.19 | chizbang | uhh |
| 16:28.21 | chizbang | Right. |
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| 16:29.03 | chizbang | its just that, for some reason Im stuck to one cursor theme... Cant seem to change it at all, not even with update alternatives now |
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| 16:29.21 | SuperNull | hey guys, is there a way in 'proc' to find an wep/wpa key / |
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| 16:30.25 | zinx | SuperNull: probably not in /proc |
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| 16:31.21 | chizbang | yeah its weird, the cursor theme I want shows up as selected in update-alternatives but its not actually rhe cursor theme |
| 16:31.34 | SuperNull | trying to script gathering he active key |
| 16:33.32 | superlinux | hi. I have debian jessie. I wanted to install the ATI proprietary driver. I had to install the jessie-backports version to get it working. it's working now. however, whenever I startup my computer (not a reboot), KDM shutsdown and I have to login as root to restart it so I can login normally. |
| 16:33.38 | SuperNull | Looks like i have access to 'wl' |
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| 16:33.43 | superlinux | so what is the fix for that? |
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| 16:35.16 | zinx | superlinux: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log before restarting kdm, and check dmesg |
| 16:35.55 | superlinux | zinx, I did. it just says that it's shutting down normally. weird! |
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| 16:42.45 | linuxd | superlinux: maybe if you check your home folder owner permissions |
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| 16:44.31 | linuxd | to see if set properly |
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| 16:44.52 | superlinux | linuxd, what do you mean? |
| 16:45.05 | superlinux | I undersdand how chown works.. |
| 16:45.10 | paxcoder | I have /dev/sda3 mounted at /home. Gparted reports 100 more occupied GB of space than du /home does. Anyone ever heard of anything like this? It persists cross reboots and after fsck ing. |
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| 16:45.34 | superlinux | but please tell me more. |
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| 16:46.00 | linuxd | just set it to tpur use ID |
| 16:46.08 | superlinux | ok. got you |
| 16:46.28 | superlinux | but it used to work on the open source driver. I had no problems. |
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| 16:55.33 | shneh | What do I do if I suspect a compromised package might have been added to the debian testing repository? Can I discuss it here? |
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| 16:57.15 | centrx | shneh, https://www.debian.org/security/faq#contact |
| 16:57.21 | centrx | shneh, Or ask in #debian-security on irc.oftc.net |
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| 16:57.44 | shneh | centrx: thank you |
| 16:57.46 | paxcoder | How is it possible that `df | awk '$6=="/home" { print $2 }'` |
| 16:57.48 | xxavi | how can I get man page ?: |
| 16:57.49 | xxavi | # man apt-get |
| 16:57.49 | xxavi | No manual entry for apt-get |
| 16:57.49 | xxavi | See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available. |
| 16:57.49 | xxavi | # |
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| 16:58.37 | paxcoder | How is it possible that `df | awk '$6=="/home" { print $2 }'` is greater than `du / --max-depth=1 | awk '$2=="/home" {print $1}'`? |
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| 17:02.21 | zykotick9 | xxavi: i'd verify you have man-db and manpages installed |
| 17:02.53 | xxavi | zykotick9: I have man-db packages; how can I verify if I have manpages installed ? |
| 17:03.26 | zykotick9 | xxavi: "manpages" is a package. "dpkg -l | grep manpages" |
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| 17:04.10 | xxavi | zykotick9: hmmm, I don't have it, I install it now, thanks |
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| 17:04.49 | zykotick9 | xxavi: if you're still having problem i'd check that "man 7 undocumented" <- if that works... |
| 17:05.02 | xxavi | zykotick9: ok, thanks |
| 17:05.05 | linuxd | It could have got changed by accedent |
| 17:05.44 | linuxd | superli |
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| 17:10.36 | G66K | hello everyone |
| 17:10.54 | G66K | i was wondering if there any way to force dpkg-reconfigure to auto commit |
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| 17:12.13 | nwilcox | Hi. I recently did apt-get upgrade, and when I rebooted I have an annoying problem: |
| 17:12.26 | nwilcox | When I log into X via slim on tty2, everything is fine. |
| 17:12.46 | nwilcox | But if I run startx from any other tty, it appears to ignore all input (mouse, keyboard). |
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| 17:13.09 | nwilcox | It ignores ctrl-alt-F1 and ctrl-alt-backspace and ctrl-alt-delete. |
| 17:13.41 | nwilcox | I've found that in tty1 I can run "sleep 10; chvt 1" and then in tty3 run "startx" and it will ignore all input, but I will be returned to tty1 which continues to work. |
| 17:13.56 | nwilcox | If I then do ctrl-alt-F3, I return to the startx session, and all input is then ignored. |
| 17:14.17 | nwilcox | Since this only started when I upgraded, is there a way I can find the difference between my old and current X config? |
| 17:14.45 | nwilcox | (I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf btw...) |
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| 17:15.35 | greycat | There's no "X config" for most people any more. The X server probes hardware and comes up with its own answers. |
| 17:15.39 | nwilcox | Oh, it also may not be obvious, but I am used to running startx from multiple different user accounts simultaneously. |
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| 17:16.01 | nwilcox | greycat: So then my question is actually "what changed during the upgrade that broke X input"? |
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| 17:21.12 | TheWarden | Can anyone comment on debootstrap and chroot? I'm wanting to chroot but it can't because I get "chroot: failed to run command â/bin/bashâ: No such file or directory". How do I get /bin/bash and associated libraries into the chroot? |
| 17:21.37 | TheWarden | I tried copying /bin/bash but that didn't work. As for the libraries, I have no idea what it all needs. There must be something on this online at least. |
| 17:21.48 | TheWarden | I've yet to find actual details on how to achieve this. |
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| 17:25.50 | nwilcox | TheWarden: one option is to combine chroot with unionfs. Here's an old tool I wrote to help with that: https://bitbucket.org/nejucomo/unionfs-chroot/wiki/Home |
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| 17:26.02 | nwilcox | However, depending on what you're doing, you might try docker.io. |
| 17:26.42 | nwilcox | TheWarden: I think the primary issues are that most processes expect certain binaries on their PATH, and most binaries need shared libraries at certain locations. |
| 17:26.52 | nwilcox | If you copy all of those correctly, it will work. |
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| 17:27.18 | TheWarden | nwilcox: oh well I'll take a look. |
| 17:27.21 | nwilcox | unionfs is a much faster way, but it gives the resulting chroot a (read-only) view of your entire filesystem. |
| 17:27.44 | TheWarden | nwilcox: I'm building Raspbian OS on Debian Jessie amd64. very frustrating. |
| 17:28.37 | nwilcox | I'll bet there's something between my unionfs+chroot bash script and docker.io that's exactly what you need, I'm just not very aware of it. |
| 17:28.45 | jhutchins | TheWarden: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-install-debian-using-debootstrap-4175465295/ |
| 17:29.06 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I suspect your source may not be fully compatible with debootstrap. |
| 17:29.06 | TheWarden | I'm not aware of either what you are mentioning. to be honest. |
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| 17:30.01 | nwilcox | TheWarden: so docker.io is a tool made by some company, but it's FOSS, so you can apt-get install it. |
| 17:30.11 | jhutchins | TheWarden: I've successfully built a chroot-able install of a different release on debian, but I'm not sure exactly how you'd manage chroot to a different architecture. |
| 17:30.17 | TheWarden | jhutchins: maybe... very little I can find on the subject. |
| 17:30.30 | nwilcox | It's basically a tool to manage an lxc container which gives you a contained environment which is similar to a chroot. |
| 17:30.41 | TheWarden | nwilcox: oh alright, thanks. |
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| 17:31.07 | nwilcox | You might be able to use lxc, which I think may either be on top of chroot or an alternative to it (not sure). |
| 17:31.24 | SuperNull | so im trying to get this broadcom wireless interface in ap mode, and set a PSK anyone do this before using wlctl ? |
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| 17:32.19 | nwilcox | TheWarden: unionfs lets you combine a "read directory" and a "read/write directory" into one mountpoint. A read checks the read/write layer and if there's nothing there it falls through to the read layer. |
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| 17:33.03 | nwilcox | If you make the read layer your /, then chroot to the unionfs mountpoint, then anything like /bin/ls or /lib/libwhateversharedthingy.so will load, but all writes will be "quarantined" to the write directory. |
| 17:33.27 | nwilcox | So it's a convenient way to set up a chroot that has access to all of your system's installed software. |
| 17:33.33 | TheWarden | nwilcox: mm okay, well I figure most of my issues is related to specifics of Raspbian and being that its on armhf architecture vs the host is running Debian Jessies amd64. |
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| 17:33.45 | cheako | Hello, is there a frontend to the gadget storage usb? On android I use DriveDroid. |
| 17:33.48 | nwilcox | (You might not want to expose all of that if you're installing an OS, since you may want a more controlled environment.) |
| 17:34.07 | nwilcox | TheWarden: Oh, yeah. Using chroot can't help you with architecture differences. |
| 17:34.25 | nwilcox | I think for that you need a virtual machine, like virtualbox, but I may be wrong. |
| 17:34.26 | TheWarden | nwilcox: thanks for your help though. |
| 17:34.33 | Brigo | cheako, this is desktop environment dependent. Which one are you using? |
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| 17:34.42 | cheako | gnome |
| 17:35.04 | Brigo | cheako, i think gnome manages it by default. It add a icon somewhere. |
| 17:35.11 | TheWarden | nwilcox: well I've found a few scripts that build it but I want to build it slim as possible without getting into building a custom kernel. |
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| 17:36.13 | cheako | Brigo: I'm attempting to export a file out my USB port? |
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| 17:37.02 | nwilcox | TheWarden: If your CPU is an x86 instruction set, but you want to build something for ARM instruction set, this is called cross-compiling. You won't be able to run any of the cross-compiled binaries. |
| 17:37.41 | nwilcox | So for example, if /targetinstall/bin/sh is compiled for ARM, you cannot use that binary on your "host" system to run any installer scripts in a chroot. |
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| 17:38.17 | cheako | It looks like the driver isn't even built by default. |
| 17:38.22 | TheWarden | nwilcox: just looking to build it and create an image that then I would use to run on the pi it self. I'm presently going off this, http://raspberry.tips/raspberrypi-tutorials/eigenes-raspbian-image-fuer-den-raspberry-pi-erstellen/ (its in German so use Google translate). |
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| 17:38.57 | xxavi | how can I install all games-* packages via aptitude in CLI ? |
| 17:39.08 | TheWarden | nwilcox: it appears others have done it but can't find exact details of how to do it and haven't figure it out playing around with it myself. |
| 17:41.06 | SuperNull | i dont have access to 'more' or 'less' any other paginators i can look for that might come with busybox ? |
| 17:41.34 | greycat | ask in #busybox |
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| 17:44.14 | Spec | Heya. I'm using puppet to configure postgresql in debian and the service check is returning false (despite postgresql running). I am told this is a debian-specific sort of service check |
| 17:44.20 | Spec | "/usr/sbin/service postgresql@*-main status |
| 17:44.48 | Spec | The 'main' cluster is up and running, and "service postgresql status" returns correctly, but the above service check says Active: inactive (dead) |
| 17:44.59 | Spec | pg_lsclusters returns that the main cluster is online, however |
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| 18:35.51 | sillysausage | has anyone got an example dhcpv6-pd configuration |
| 18:35.56 | sillysausage | with the ISC DHCP server |
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| 18:36.31 | sillysausage | but i heard it is unmaintained |
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| 18:49.43 | dimitry7 | Hello, how can I get a list of manually installed packages? not packages belonging to the base install |
| 18:49.49 | dimitry7 | I tried: aptitude search '~i!~M' |
| 18:51.00 | somiaj | dimitry7: so you don't want to list important and required packages? (or maybe even standard packages)? |
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| 18:51.56 | dimitry7 | somiaj, exactly, I just want to list those installed via aptitude or apt-get |
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| 18:52.32 | dimitry7 | somiaj, like svn, python, tshark, etc |
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| 18:53.03 | greycat | I'm not sure Debian tracks that sort of thing. |
| 18:53.05 | mutante | dimitry7: you can "dpkg --get-selections > /tmp/somefile" right after the install is done.. and then again at a later point and look at the diff of the files. |
| 18:53.18 | mutante | i dont think APT has a knowledge by itself about the meaning of "manual" here |
| 18:53.39 | mutante | you can also look at /var/log/apt/history.log |
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| 18:53.47 | mutante | to see hints what was installed when |
| 18:54.03 | dimitry7 | mutante, I did, it's empty |
| 18:54.17 | dimitry7 | mutante, I thought of sorting by date |
| 18:54.24 | somiaj | dimitry7: yea the ! for not is a bit difficult to use at times. |
| 18:54.25 | dimitry7 | but dunno how |
| 18:54.30 | somiaj | dimitry7: let me play aroudn a bit |
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| 18:54.36 | dimitry7 | somiaj, ok |
| 18:54.44 | mutante | dimitry7: maybe there are some more like history.log.10.gz etc |
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| 18:55.19 | dimitry7 | mutante, oh yes, i've seen them but they contain dependencies and so on |
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| 18:56.56 | mutante | dimitry7: maybe just install a base system of the same version somewhere else, get a list of packages there, then diff between that and your current system |
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| 18:57.05 | tharkun | Good $DAY I'm looking for a way to convert from svg to pdf files without a GUI since the machine running this process is headless. |
| 18:57.48 | somiaj | dimitry7: aptitude search ~i~pextra ~i~poptional | grep -v " A " -- this works but kinda hacky. the ! flag gets misinteruprited by bash |
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| 18:58.25 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: inkscape -A foo.pdf bar.svg; man inkscape for details |
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| 18:58.47 | lindylex | I am having problems starting X. This is my error "Could not create lock file int /tmp/.tX0-lock" |
| 18:58.48 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: inkscape demands gnome to be installed. |
| 18:58.52 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: so? |
| 18:58.59 | greycat | lindylex: ls -ld /tmp |
| 18:59.10 | tharkun | headless server will run the aplication |
| 18:59.16 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: it doesn't actually demand gnome, it just requires various gnome libraries |
| 18:59.25 | lindylex | greycat: drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 12288 Nov 10 13:53 /tmp |
| 18:59.26 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: yes; inkscape runs just fine on a headless server. |
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| 18:59.39 | greycat | lindylex: ok, that's correct... so my first guess is wrong |
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| 18:59.53 | teraflops | tharkun: imagemagick: convert test.svg test.pdf |
| 18:59.56 | somiaj | dimitry7: aptitude search "?and(?installed, ?not(?automatic), ?or(?priority(optional), ?priority(extra)))" |
| 19:00.24 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: Ok I'll install it on a vm to see how much aditional libraries it requires. Thanks |
| 19:00.35 | tharkun | teraflops: I'll look into it thanks also. |
| 19:00.36 | lindylex | This use to solve my problems "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms" once I ran an update and the kernel was updated. |
| 19:00.46 | somiaj | dimitry7: that should list all manually installed packages that are extra or optional. |
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| 19:01.24 | somiaj | dimitry7: note the 'minimial install' may not include all standard packages. But it is usually considered proper to install all standard packages so I ignored those. |
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| 19:02.04 | dimitry7 | somiaj, all right, I got my packages list now, thank you man! :D |
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| 19:07.10 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: it will be some extras, but in my experience, the PDF output of inkscape is superior to the PDF output of imagemagick. But that said, imagemagick has likely improved since I was last looking at it |
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| 19:09.33 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: Comparing right now both outputs. Thanks for the heads up on inkscape's library needs. |
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| 19:10.24 | dondelelcaro | no problem |
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| 19:12.57 | cheako | "/msg bots NOT people" not functional. |
| 19:12.57 | maaku | Is there some way I can temporarily install a package via `apt-get install` without adding it to the list of installed packages, e.g. so future `apt-get autoremove` will get rid of it? |
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| 19:13.22 | somiaj | maaku: not really, but once you install the package you could toggle the install flag to automatic. |
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| 19:13.58 | maaku | somiaj: forgive my ignorance, how would I do that? (I'm coming from Gentoo and looking for the equiv of "emerge --oneshot") |
| 19:14.05 | somiaj | maaku: so aptitude markauto packagename (after the package is isntalled) |
| 19:14.13 | maaku | somiaj: thank you |
| 19:14.26 | somiaj | maaku: but in this case why not just remove the package once you are done with it? |
| 19:15.08 | somiaj | maaku: anyways unsure what you are wanting out of this. But the way autoremove works is by use of that 'auto' flag which you can toggle on individual packages. |
| 19:15.33 | somiaj | (i.e. it removes any auto packages that do not have dependecy requiring them) |
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| 19:17.09 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: update on imagemagick's pdf rendering. It is fuzzy and not as sharp as inkscape's. |
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| 19:18.42 | maaku | somiaj: I want a habit that will cause my system to stay clean as a matter of course even if I forget. If 'auto' flag was set on install a future 'apt-get autoremove' would clean it up even if I forgot |
| 19:19.32 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: yeah, I seem to recal it having a roundtrip through bitmap |
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| 19:19.37 | maaku | somiaj: the use case being I install a tool for one-off use, but being me I forget to remove it and it lingers around. would be nice if there was a 'apt-get install --auto' that set the flag on the install, becaue I'd remember to do that even if I forgot to explicitly uninstall later |
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| 19:20.12 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: you might also want to compare the sizes of the generated pdfs |
| 19:20.43 | somiaj | maaku: I am unsure of such a feature in debian. What I suggested is the best I can think of. You could file a wishlist bug against the apt package to request such a feature. |
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| 19:22.06 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: Sizes are just fine on rendered lines but letters are slightly smaller on the imagemagick output. |
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| 19:22.55 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: oh, I mean the filesize. |
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| 19:23.34 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: Yeah inkscape's files are really smaller :) |
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| 19:26.39 | dondelelcaro | tharkun: yeah; that's probably because they're actually PDFs, not a bitmap rendering of the SVG inside of a PDF. |
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| 19:28.10 | nwilcox | I used to be able to log into two different ttys, then run "exec startx" with no other options (as three different users on three different ttys) and start three x sessions, no problem. |
| 19:28.17 | nwilcox | ... then I did apt-get upgrade on debian. |
| 19:28.25 | nwilcox | Now only the first user succeeds at startx. |
| 19:28.31 | nwilcox | The first difference I notice in their logs is the second failing user has: /dev/dri/card0: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied |
| 19:28.36 | nwilcox | Is this familiar to anyone? |
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| 19:28.54 | dondelelcaro | nwilcox: heh. Yeah, you can generally only have a single user accessing the DRM interface. |
| 19:28.57 | nwilcox | The users are in the groups: video, audio, input |
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| 19:29.09 | nwilcox | dondelelcaro: Then how did it work perfectly before apt-get upgrade? |
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| 19:29.17 | nwilcox | I have no custom xorg.conf. It just worked. |
| 19:29.33 | nwilcox | Was I using a different video driver? |
| 19:29.40 | dondelelcaro | nwilcox: possibly, yeah. |
| 19:29.56 | nwilcox | Should fbdev work for multiple sessions? |
| 19:29.59 | dondelelcaro | nwilcox: someone else might know better, too... I know there are things you can do for multi-seat setups |
| 19:30.02 | nwilcox | (If so, how do I enable it?) |
| 19:30.52 | somiaj | nwilcox: my expreince was if I wanted to start an xsession on a different tty I needed to do startx -- :1 |
| 19:31.10 | somiaj | nwilcox: or something like that I forget the syntax, but I had to explicity tell start to use a different DISPLAY |
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| 19:32.49 | somiaj | nwilcox: ahh guess startx is now smart enough to do that automatically. Are you running testing/unstable? |
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| 19:34.16 | nwilcox | somiaj: Yeah, I used to do that before. Now it's unnecessary. |
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| 19:35.23 | nwilcox | What's up with multiple users posting that sketchy domain? |
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| 19:36.14 | somiaj | nwilcox: this channel gets lots of spammers. Anyways back to support. what version of debian do you run? |
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| 19:37.07 | nwilcox | Well, lsb_release says "Debian GNU/Linux 7.9 (wheezy)" |
| 19:37.31 | nwilcox | -but all of my apt/sources.list says "testing". |
| 19:37.42 | somiaj | nwilcox: I don't see why a upgrade in wheezy would chnage this behavior. |
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| 19:37.56 | somiaj | nwilcox: could you not be fully upgraded to testing. |
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| 19:38.15 | greycat | trying to jump from wheezy directly to testing sounds like a really bad idea |
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| 19:38.31 | nwilcox | greycat: Probably the source of my pain. |
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| 19:38.39 | Lauwenmark | Bonsoir, gens |
| 19:38.42 | nwilcox | Why does lsb_release say wheezy? What defines that? |
| 19:39.03 | greycat | I'd check /etc/debian_version |
| 19:39.04 | nwilcox | (Can any op kick the spam accounts?) |
| 19:39.13 | abrotman | nwilcox: do you have joins/parts turned off? |
| 19:39.18 | nwilcox | $ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:39.19 | nwilcox | stretch/sid |
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| 19:39.22 | greycat | nwilcox: it spammed and left. We can ban that IP, but it might not be back anyway. It seems to be spamming from multiple IPs. |
| 19:39.24 | abrotman | KSX: see bars above? |
| 19:39.31 | KSX | yes |
| 19:39.31 | nwilcox | Ok. |
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| 19:39.36 | abrotman | KSX: just checking ;) |
| 19:39.45 | nwilcox | So is my system in an incoherent release state? |
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| 19:39.59 | somiaj | nwilcox: it looks at a bunch of different thiings. It oculd be confused, it could be you have some stuff that isn't fully upgraded to testing or something remainging on your system |
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| 19:40.25 | somiaj | nwilcox: I just checked my jessie and sid install. It works just fine. The only thing I can think if is are your other users in the 'video' group so they can access the device? |
| 19:40.35 | somiaj | nwilcox: I also only checked with my single user, I didn't try to have two users access the card |
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| 19:41.53 | somiaj | nwilcox: so why you aren't able to run multiple xservers on different displays is either the other users are not in the video group, or maybe you have some artificats left on your system by trying to go from wheezy -> testing. |
| 19:42.20 | nwilcox | somiaj: both users are in the video group. |
| 19:42.22 | waressearcher2 | using tmux, is there command something like: "tmux create-window" or how to create new window from command line without using hot keys ? |
| 19:42.39 | nwilcox | Any thoughts on what the artifacts could be? |
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| 19:42.58 | greycat | waressearcher2: if you can't find it in the man page, ask #tmux |
| 19:43.01 | nwilcox | I wonder if the best route is to do a full backup and reinstall. |
| 19:43.39 | nwilcox | How stable is "testing" for a laptop? (This is a samsung ativ-9.) |
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| 19:43.50 | greycat | It's not. |
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| 19:44.08 | ZeroBeholder | Hey party people, having some php-fpm config problems for a setup script. Mainly that PHP-FPM is super misconfigured. |
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| 19:44.19 | nwilcox | Ok, so maybe I should live with stable and if I need newer packages build them by hand. |
| 19:44.40 | cra1g321 | could also try backports for some packages |
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| 19:46.17 | ewew | !op |
| 19:46.27 | greycat | What do you expect an op to do about it? |
| 19:46.40 | ewew | +q |
| 19:46.49 | greycat | It's a different IP/host every time. |
| 19:47.04 | ewew | ok. then nothing. staying quiet |
| 19:47.13 | somiaj | ewew: it is !ops, and we have already banned 3 ips, and have done no good. freenode staff knows about it, looking into a better fix. |
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| 19:48.05 | tharkun | ddos on the server might prove more meaningfull |
| 19:48.07 | somiaj | nwilcox: running multiple xservers as you do by running startx for multiple users works fine on my jessie and sid box. Something during your upgrade must be causing the problems you are experiencing. |
| 19:49.09 | nwilcox | somiaj: Ok, that's a useful datapoint. Thanks for checking. |
| 19:49.35 | tharkun | nwilcox: The stability of the OS depends more on what you need to do with it than whatever piece of hw you are using. |
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| 19:49.54 | ZeroBeholder | https://github.com/bradchesney79/2015DebianJessieWebserverProject I know the echo/printf stuff is hard to read-- I will likely change that to copying template files and using sed to make the necessary changes. |
| 19:50.00 | nwilcox | What do your Xorg.<N>.log files say if you grep for "Matched .* as autoconfigured driver" ? |
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| 19:51.55 | ZeroBeholder | Anybody willing to give bash script a once over to see if you find any obvious things I am missing. The FastCGI worker module is in instead of the prefork module-- I think my listen= filename is the same as my FastCGIExternalServer -socket filename are correct. |
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| 19:52.03 | ZeroBeholder | But they just don't seem to be linking up. |
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| 19:53.36 | somiaj | ZeroBeholder: you can provide a link to a pastebin if you like, but #bash would be more appropriate for such a question. |
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| 19:54.26 | greycat | As soon as I see "the FastCGI worker module" I know it's not a #bash question. |
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| 19:57.19 | somiaj | ahh I just saw bashscript (: |
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| 19:57.45 | ZeroBeholder | somiaj, you are partially correct. But, the bash script is very specific to Debian and Debian's way of enabling PHP-PFM. (Happen to like the way Debian does stuff, but it is a little different than say RedHat for instance.) |
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| 19:58.27 | greycat | The question is whether your FILES (created by the script??) are correct. |
| 19:58.37 | greycat | If the files are not correct then figure out why. |
| 19:59.31 | greycat | If you can get it down to "I'm running this command ___ and I expected it to write ___ but it's writing ___" then it may be a #bash question. Don't expect #bash to know what a PHP-FPM config file should look like. |
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| 20:08.39 | ZeroBeholder | In the process of making a directory that is a copy of what they end up being to make it easier to read (that way my $USER/bin directory is populated first by the git clone and can push back up as well). |
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| 20:09.32 | ZeroBeholder | It all seems syntactically correct-- but it isn't, because it doesn't work. I haven't ruled out the ownership & permissions being wrong either. |
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| 20:09.46 | greycat | Are the created files correct or not? |
| 20:10.01 | greycat | I assume you have a script that is creating one or more files. |
| 20:10.47 | ZeroBeholder | I think so. The script does create a few files. I am going through them now. |
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| 21:13.32 | cypherman | hi ppl |
| 21:13.51 | cypherman | how can i get a history of connected bots in irc port 6667 in debian? |
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| 21:17.21 | cypherman | anyone? |
| 21:17.53 | greycat | Errr... what? Are you running an IRC server? If so, consult your IRC server's documentation. |
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| 21:27.26 | metallic | Hello I want to state a question. I want to pass some filenames via pipelines to «rm»... So far I haven't succeeded. Is it possible? |
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| 21:28.03 | somiaj | metallic: how are you getting this list? |
| 21:28.15 | greycat | metallic: It's a dodgy approach. Where are the filenames coming from? Are they coming from find? If so, just use -delete in find. |
| 21:28.24 | metallic | somiaj, I better send a picture... |
| 21:28.42 | somiaj | no need, we are just wondering what you are using to generate this list of filenames. |
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| 21:30.26 | metallic | it's just a silly example, but it captures the essence of what I want to do |
| 21:30.27 | metallic | http://paste.debian.net/330899/ |
| 21:30.49 | metallic | I want to know if that out can be passed, via a pipe, to «rm» |
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| 21:31.26 | greycat | metallic: it's very very bad. Do not generate filenames with ls. Do not pipe filenames without NUL delimiters. |
| 21:31.42 | ZeroBeholder | metallic: have you tried the find <dir> [options, like -name, -type] -exec ? |
| 21:31.43 | greycat | metallic: Describe what you REALLY want to do in English, and we can probably guide you. |
| 21:31.45 | metallic | NUL delimiters? |
| 21:32.11 | greycat | find can filter files base on permission bits, owner, etc. |
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| 21:32.29 | ZeroBeholder | metallic: the -exec option on find lets you run a command on the list of files find gets for you |
| 21:32.43 | greycat | or you can just skip to -delete which is like -exec rm {} + |
| 21:32.46 | mutante | metallic: it looks like you may want: find ... -exec |
| 21:32.48 | metallic | greycat, essencially, pass a list of filenames, obtained via various commands, to «rm» via a pipeline |
| 21:32.58 | greycat | metallic: WHAT COMMANDS. WHY. HOW. |
| 21:33.03 | greycat | It really actually MATTERS. |
| 21:33.06 | metallic | greycat, XD I am just tinkering |
| 21:33.16 | greycat | metallic: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind |
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| 21:34.02 | metallic | you all have prompted me to use «find», I follow your advice :) |
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| 21:35.08 | metallic | ZeroBeholder, interesting :) |
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| 21:35.21 | ZeroBeholder | metallic: you could also look at piping the path/filename into a text file then use a loop, but find is the conclusion I came to at first too-- just like everyone else |
| 21:35.37 | mutante | metallic: start with just the "find" part and once you are sure you got the right files, add the "-exec rm {}" part |
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| 21:35.51 | greycat | or -delete |
| 21:36.03 | mutante | or rm -i to be asked |
| 21:36.03 | metallic | ok, thanks you all :D! |
| 21:36.09 | somiaj | people should listen to greycat (: |
| 21:36.09 | OneST8 | -delete is the best option |
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| 21:36.22 | OneST8 | forget pipe-lining when find can do it cleanly for you |
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| 21:40.01 | krav | so i'm reading through all the d-i stuff. |
| 21:40.08 | krav | and getting most of it, but there's one question |
| 21:40.17 | krav | is there a way to pre-enable a daemon from the preseed file? |
| 21:40.21 | krav | I want to turn on SSH. |
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| 21:47.40 | Brigo | krav, i think preseed is for questions about configuring, not installing packages. |
| 21:47.56 | krav | Brigo: it's for both |
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| 21:48.14 | krav | Brigo: you can tell it what packages to install. |
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| 21:48.16 | krav | and then install them |
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| 21:48.43 | OneST8 | krav: if you install ssh, it will start the service right away as far as I know |
| 21:48.47 | Brigo | krav, then i am wrong, sorry. :) |
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| 21:49.24 | krav | Brigo: all good :) |
| 21:49.25 | sparky4 | can anyone help me with the video card settings with the resolution and stuff? |
| 21:49.35 | sparky4 | the out put on screen is very blurry |
| 21:49.38 | krav | OneST8: it's not wanting to. I'm just gonna write a late command |
| 21:49.48 | sparky4 | it is messed up from the intel driver stuff |
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| 21:50.32 | ZeroBeholder | That's weird-- I've had nothing but good luck with the open sourced intel drivers... |
| 21:50.43 | sparky4 | these wher epropietary drivers |
| 21:50.43 | OneST8 | krav, how do you know it doesn't want to... also, didn't know software had wants lol hehe |
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| 21:50.59 | sparky4 | i got my nvidia geforce 6200 pci card in and switched to it |
| 21:51.08 | krav | OneST8: because i'm installing it, but then it's not running when the system boots :P |
| 21:51.15 | sparky4 | and the outout is very blurry |
| 21:51.22 | sparky4 | outout->output |
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| 21:51.59 | ZeroBeholder | https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.0 |
| 21:52.02 | OneST8 | krav, I've never seen or had that problem... I wonder if it's systemd related |
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| 21:52.35 | krav | OneST8: it's probably because i'm running the bastard child of debian :P |
| 21:52.40 | krav | kali |
| 21:52.45 | OneST8 | o |
| 21:52.46 | OneST8 | yea |
| 21:52.48 | OneST8 | totally dude |
| 21:52.52 | krav | it steals unabashedly from debian. |
| 21:52.56 | OneST8 | kali does that on purpose |
| 21:52.59 | krav | so 90% of the time it's more useful to come here. |
| 21:53.03 | ZeroBeholder | I don't have my notes on the laptop I'm using, but compiling didn't raise any freak out flags |
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| 21:53.24 | OneST8 | nothing wrong with debian derivatives, just keeping the sec context in mind |
| 21:53.40 | OneST8 | *any* service that starts up on boot leaks details about your host |
| 21:54.09 | jelly | only if your machine is public |
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| 22:22.13 | waressearcher2 | using "screen" why when I create new window the amount of users that "who" shows increase ? is there a way to increase amount of users without screen ? if I just run "bash" process it doesn't increase amount of users |
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| 22:26.40 | somiaj | waressearcher2: because screen creates a new pty. It would be the same if you opened another terminal. |
| 22:27.10 | somiaj | so who is not only listing the users, it listing which tty (and pty) are open |
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| 22:28.58 | waressearcher2 | somiaj: I set "maxwin 2000" but I can't open more than 1020 windows, I checked "ulimit" and it says I have "open files (-n) 1024" so amount of windows is depends on how many files I can open ? is there a way to make screen do not open any files ? I presume those are files in "/dev/pts/" |
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| 22:29.27 | somiaj | why are you needing these many windows? |
| 22:29.47 | somiaj | again each window is its own shell on its own pty. |
| 22:30.04 | waressearcher2 | testing |
| 22:31.13 | somiaj | I don't think you can configure screen to not open a new pty for each window spawned. |
| 22:31.40 | somiaj | the reason it doesn't happen when you say run login, su, or bash is because those process then use the current tty/pty |
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| 23:05.05 | Guest8931 | Hello :) |
| 23:05.18 | Guest8931 | I was thinking of using debian as router |
| 23:05.35 | Guest8931 | I have indeed a nice old pentium 3 for the purpouse |
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| 23:05.47 | AvatarA | will do |
| 23:05.51 | Guest8931 | But the board is an ATX and is a bit big xD |
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| 23:06.26 | PadawanLearner | Guest8931: put it on a flash drive, even an usb pen, and it will fly |
| 23:06.33 | Guest8931 | So i was thinking, because many years have passed, can i find something in middle between a raspberry pi and an entry level pc for do the job ? |
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| 23:07.14 | Guest8931 | PadawanLearner: Thanks but my main concern is if i can find a dedicated hardware, let me show you what i found |
| 23:07.46 | PadawanLearner | i use a plain router: asus wl-500gp v2 |
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| 23:08.03 | AvatarA | why not a pi? how much do you have to route? |
| 23:08.28 | MadHatter42 | hello, i just added two additional physical disks on my dabian machine, do you have a good guide for adding software raid with mdamd |
| 23:08.29 | MadHatter42 | ? |
| 23:08.37 | PadawanLearner | MemTotal: 29144 kB |
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| 23:09.19 | PadawanLearner | MadHatter42: there are some very good ones at debian-administration.org |
| 23:09.26 | MadHatter42 | PadawanLearner, thnx |
| 23:09.29 | Guest8931 | I found this: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/QOTOM-C30IW-intel-atom-mini-desktop_515567668.html |
| 23:09.34 | PadawanLearner | google raid1 site:debian-administration.org |
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| 23:10.37 | Guest8931 | AvatarA: I have not so much to route, my choice in debian, a pure debian, not something like a raspbian would be turn on auto updates on the router machine, close all the unwanted services, leave the minimum and have it being able to work even with some auto reboots. |
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| 23:11.18 | Guest8931 | I'm trying to make some home setup with various of this linux boxes debian based. |
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| 23:12.20 | Guest8931 | The problem is i can't spend 150$ for each of them, these devices are meant for run stuff like media centers, hardware h264 decoding and so on, i need them instead just for run debian with iptables and some minor services. |
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| 23:12.44 | PadawanLearner | Guest8931: why not pure debian on a raspII ? |
| 23:13.19 | PadawanLearner | that hw seems cute but lacks RAM |
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| 23:13.35 | Guest8931 | tl;dr: i'm in need of x86 or arm mini pc being able to run original debian without custom kernels or custom builds, because custom means slowness in update or even dropped branch of develop, instead an original debian is something i can trust in the speed of update. |
| 23:13.37 | PadawanLearner | i would go with a pi |
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| 23:14.11 | ewew | Guest8931 Did you looked on fli4l.de ? |
| 23:14.16 | Guest8931 | PadawanLearner: I saw it can support debian arm but has no gigabit ethernet on default, i should buy an external one, and need custom ad hoc kernel |
| 23:14.26 | Guest8931 | ewew: no but i will take a look now thanks :) |
| 23:14.51 | Guest8931 | PadawanLearner: Some folks suggested me maybe more like a BananaPI for this needs but still a custom ad hoc kernel |
| 23:15.51 | AvatarA | well depends how much work you are willing to put in, you can automate pretty much anything, even updating your custom kernel |
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| 23:17.03 | Guest8931 | AvatarA: hmm the problem is something i have to leave at home of my parents, where i will put a nas in sync with mine normal one... have to just work and be rock resistant :D for sure i can turn on the automatic security updates service, i'm not sure it works also for the kernel |
| 23:17.06 | PadawanLearner | bananapi is cute, i like the R1 in particular, though it has worst GPU kernel support than the raspII |
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| 23:17.42 | Guest8931 | PadawanLearner: that's why i'm in search for some cute undiscovered hardware that maybe you expert folks can suggest me :D |
| 23:18.11 | PadawanLearner | I'm no expert in embedded stuff, far from it. |
| 23:18.24 | PadawanLearner | maybe someone else can inform you |
| 23:18.26 | AvatarA | you're pretty much free to try anything that suits you |
| 23:18.33 | PadawanLearner | but you should get a proper nick |
| 23:18.36 | Guest8931 | PadawanLearner: my experience on debian is also only related to x86 and x64 versions, i used debian on arm only rarely on a prebuild thing |
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| 23:20.07 | CheapWebmasterX | nah this nick sucks |
| 23:20.12 | waressearcher2 | PadawanLearner: considering your name, I want to ask you this, can you confirm this is the original sound of Darth Vader's breath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-t2TeapTH8 ? or can you say what version is it from original movies or from new ones ? |
| 23:20.23 | sparky4 | http://4ch.mooo.com/4/Screenshot%20from%202015-11-10%2015:50:22.png this is very strange |
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| 23:21.30 | somiaj | sparky4: what is strange? |
| 23:21.52 | PadawanLearner | waressearcher2: unfortunately i have no sound on this terminal |
| 23:21.58 | sparky4 | somiaj: thats not the resolutions the agp version of the nvidia geforce 6200 supported in xorg |
| 23:22.17 | sparky4 | i am using the pci version and i think the intel propietery drivers messed something up |
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| 23:22.45 | sparky4 | somiaj: also the output is very blurry especially at more higher refresh rates |
| 23:22.56 | PoorSysAdmin10 | i have to find a website that talks about linux routers i guess ;P |
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| 23:23.29 | PoorSysAdmin10 | maybe they have some products for the porpuouse |
| 23:23.39 | somiaj | sparky4: you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what modlines were detected and driver being used |
| 23:23.49 | sparky4 | somiaj: ok |
| 23:24.49 | somiaj | PoorSysAdmin10: a bit off topic here, but maybe you are talking about openWRT? |
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| 23:25.35 | PoorSysAdmin10 | somiaj: no somiaj, i want to find a cheap hardware where i can put an original debian distro, use it as router and turn on automatic updates for all |
| 23:26.06 | PoorSysAdmin10 | somiaj: sadly openwrt, ddwrt and also all the commercial routers have not really the same speed of security fix of a fully fledged distro like debian |
| 23:26.57 | PadawanLearner | PoorSysAdmin10: are you sure about that? openwrt is pretty slick |
| 23:26.59 | PoorSysAdmin10 | somiaj: we talk of things released in a matter of hours maybe days... commercial routers get fix in weeks or months in best case scenario |
| 23:26.59 | somiaj | PoorSysAdmin10: ahh I see. I think there are raspberrypi like devices that have two ethnerent ports on them that could be used. |
| 23:27.01 | sparky4 | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/330988/ |
| 23:27.31 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: You have to reflash the firmware while with a normal debian pc you install updates and maybe if really needed reboot the os |
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| 23:28.26 | PadawanLearner | PoorSysAdmin10: actually its pretty simple: opkg update && opkg upgrade |
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| 23:29.34 | somiaj | sparky4: the only odd thing I notice is around likes 111, seems the driver is not corectly detecting the edid of your device and setting up propper modelines. Unsure what the issue could be there though. |
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| 23:30.29 | somiaj | so seems it just put a list of default ones which may not be correct for the screen. |
| 23:30.30 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: I'm not sure is the same thing. For what i know opkg is a package manager but is not powerful as apt-get (that has powers of super cow -;D) |
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| 23:30.44 | thevdude | Hi guys, I haven't used debian in a long time, and just installed a system today. I haven't set up sudo (i don't really need it), but when I su to root and install lighttpd, I can't run it as my user. Do I need to add my user to another group for it? |
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| 23:30.55 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: I mean, kernel and main services should not be touched by an opkg ugrade |
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| 23:31.17 | sparky4 | somiaj: ok |
| 23:31.41 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: and the speed of release of critical fixes i fear is not the same of debian |
| 23:32.12 | PadawanLearner | PoorSysAdmin10: :) you want Debian, go with your heart |
| 23:32.19 | thevdude | like, it's not even showing up in tab complete for my regular user, but comes up fine for root |
| 23:32.21 | PadawanLearner | install the arm port |
| 23:32.24 | somiaj | Either way openWRT is offtopic here. It was just a suggestion if you did not know about it. |
| 23:32.27 | PadawanLearner | on a rasp |
| 23:32.31 | jelly | root@gw2:~# opkg moo |
| 23:32.31 | jelly | opkg: unknown sub-command moo |
| 23:32.51 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: xD no, lol is not this is just i'm trying to figure out the best distro i can use just for security purposes ;D |
| 23:33.23 | somiaj | PoorSysAdmin10: We here would of course suggest debian. But others would be comparable I'm sure. |
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| 23:33.52 | PadawanLearner | PoorSysAdmin10: well in that case you should probably go with the BSD flavour |
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| 23:34.09 | PadawanLearner | that is the thing for the security minded |
| 23:34.22 | PadawanLearner | not my thing though |
| 23:34.26 | jelly | the choice of distro is probably a minor detail as long as you pick a major one with a security team |
| 23:34.47 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: also maybe yes bsd |
| 23:35.20 | PoorSysAdmin10 | jelly, PadawanLearner: yes indeed, the problem here is find a device that can run one of most famous distro Natively |
| 23:35.23 | AvatarA | thevdude, if you need to listen on port 80, root needs to start it |
| 23:35.33 | PoorSysAdmin10 | so that i can update it automatically without mess |
| 23:35.45 | sparky4 | dang!! |
| 23:35.58 | PadawanLearner | cat /etc/openwrt_release |
| 23:36.14 | PadawanLearner | sorry |
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| 23:36.18 | PadawanLearner | about that |
| 23:36.25 | thevdude | AvatarA: I'm fine with switching the port, but it's not even showing as available for my user to run |
| 23:36.40 | AvatarA | PoorSysAdmin10, don't think that just updating all the time will keep you super secure :) |
| 23:37.26 | thevdude | my user doesn't have sbin in path |
| 23:37.45 | AvatarA | yes that is normal in debian, because it's not Ubuntu :p |
| 23:38.16 | thevdude | I'm coming from using arch for a few years |
| 23:38.56 | AvatarA | although I found it annoying to /sbin/ifconfig all the time I understand the logic |
| 23:38.57 | PadawanLearner | thevdude: that's nornal, only root has sbin in the path by default |
| 23:39.10 | somiaj | thevdude: that is just default because usually commands put there can't be run with user permissions. You can change that or just give the full path to the daemon. |
| 23:39.19 | PadawanLearner | AvatarA: i got used to ip addr instead of ifconfig |
| 23:39.28 | AvatarA | I am getting used to that too |
| 23:39.53 | PadawanLearner | PoorSysAdmin10: http://www.bananapi.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/59-what-is-bpi-r1-2 |
| 23:40.13 | PadawanLearner | that's my pick for your challenge, the R1 variant |
| 23:41.00 | AvatarA | thevdude, don't rely on tab completion to show you all that is available btw |
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| 23:41.41 | thevdude | Yeah |
| 23:41.47 | thevdude | it's just been a long long time since I used debian |
| 23:42.14 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: the cool thing of bananapi indeed is the gigabit ethernet onboard |
| 23:42.18 | thevdude | it was the first linux distro I used though, so it's starting to get comfortable again. |
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| 23:55.30 | PoorSysAdmin10 | Ok i think that unless i could find something more nicer, a bananapi could do the job. |
| 23:56.03 | PoorSysAdmin10 | I can use vlans or put other gigabit ethernet ports connected via usb |
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| 23:57.45 | PadawanLearner | PoorSysAdmin10: :) |
| 23:58.26 | PoorSysAdmin10 | PadawanLearner: i hoped in small PCs even 70-80 $ each but complete, cased and with ali :P |
