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| 00:00.48 | MeanEYE | You can check all the backups with |
| 00:00.48 | MeanEYE | dumpe2fs /dev/sda5 | grep -i superblock |
| 00:01.01 | MeanEYE | replace sda5 with whatever your image is. |
| 00:01.29 | JyZyXEL | MeanEYE: he already nuked the superblocks in the image with mkfs.ext4 -S |
| 00:01.44 | MeanEYE | All of the backups too? |
| 00:02.09 | oacy | MeanEYE, no, I have another backup image |
| 00:02.23 | MeanEYE | I meant superblock backups. |
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| 00:02.57 | oacy | MeanEYE, I have a copy of disk image on which I havent applied mkfs.ext4 -S, if you mean this one |
| 00:03.22 | MeanEYE | Good. |
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| 00:03.31 | MeanEYE | Make another copy and then list all the backup super block. |
| 00:03.46 | MeanEYE | dumpe2fs /path/to/image | grep -i superblock |
| 00:04.10 | oacy | MeanEYE, sure, I'll just need a few minutes to transfer the other image on the flash drive |
| 00:04.26 | MeanEYE | oacy, you should be able to work directly on image file. |
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| 00:05.20 | oacy | MeanEYE, would I be able to do so when the image is on a flash drive with no other data on it? |
| 00:05.41 | MeanEYE | I think so. File is a file ... including block devices. |
| 00:05.56 | MeanEYE | Just make a backup copy of the image file so we don't screw it up by accident. |
| 00:06.33 | oacy | MeanEYE, sure, in progress |
| 00:06.36 | MeanEYE | oacy, is the backup image, an image of that same flash drive? |
| 00:06.58 | MeanEYE | Am not entirely sure why you need to copy it to flash drive. |
| 00:06.59 | MeanEYE | But okay. |
| 00:07.41 | oacy | MeanEYE, I'd prepared it for the case that I might use fsck, to keep HDD totally out of the way |
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| 00:07.53 | MeanEYE | Okay. |
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| 00:08.11 | MeanEYE | So system you are currently running on has the drive in question which has corrupted fs? |
| 00:09.23 | PadawanLearner | MeanEYE: *nice* trick the dumpe2fs /dev/xyz |grep -i superblock |
| 00:09.30 | MeanEYE | ^^ |
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| 00:12.11 | PadawanLearner | then fsck -b magic_number /dev/xyz |
| 00:12.18 | PadawanLearner | coolness |
| 00:12.18 | MeanEYE | Yup. |
| 00:12.23 | MeanEYE | Mount works as well. |
| 00:12.37 | PadawanLearner | superb |
| 00:12.41 | MeanEYE | mount -o sb=number /dev/zyx /some/path |
| 00:12.56 | PadawanLearner | omg, the possibilities... |
| 00:13.00 | MeanEYE | ^^ |
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| 00:13.11 | MeanEYE | Yeah. Journaling fs shouldn't die as easily. |
| 00:13.49 | rachaellee | if thats so easy, why is it not built in? |
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| 00:13.59 | MeanEYE | What do you mean not builtin? |
| 00:14.18 | oacy | MeanEYE, sorry, just saw your earlier question. no, the backup image and all images in question belong to another, external drive. |
| 00:14.27 | rachaellee | like, wouldnt fsck have a function to do it? |
| 00:14.33 | PadawanLearner | i recently had the opportunity to recover a software raid array, was really surprised with the resilience built into it. But this is something else, hehehe another layer of opportunity! |
| 00:14.34 | oacy | the problem partition is part of this external drive |
| 00:15.25 | MeanEYE | rachaellee, fsck does have it built in. But it doesn't make a decision for you which backup superblock to use. There's no way of knowing which one is corrupt. |
| 00:15.42 | MeanEYE | Well perhaps there is, but it's better for software not to make an assumption. |
| 00:16.23 | rachaellee | cant it look at all of them and spot the odd one out? |
| 00:16.45 | MeanEYE | Well, for that to work you'd have to define "odd one out". In other words predict all the strange behaviors that can happen. :) |
| 00:17.11 | rachaellee | ok |
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| 00:18.34 | MeanEYE | Predicting good ones is also hard in my opinion. Your files might be "missing" but software can see it as an empty directory/drive. |
| 00:19.16 | MeanEYE | Luckily we do have features to deal with such things, sadly we don't have an easy one click solution. |
| 00:19.28 | MeanEYE | That might be a fun project in the future should I ever get bored. |
| 00:19.55 | rachaellee | ok |
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| 00:21.00 | oacy | MeanEYE, the new image copy is ready, and I'll apply the command now: 'dumpe2fs /path/to/image | grep -i superblock' |
| 00:21.07 | MeanEYE | oacy, sure. |
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| 00:25.57 | oacy | MeanEYE, it gave this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13243319 |
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| 00:27.12 | MeanEYE | Am guessing image is not mounted? |
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| 00:29.03 | rachaellee | ZZRMike, is that the kawasaki kind ? |
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| 00:29.41 | ZZRMike | rachaellee: Is there any other kind? ;D |
| 00:30.04 | rachaellee | :p zxr |
| 00:30.46 | oacy | MeanEYE, it is mounted |
| 00:30.50 | ZZRMike | But yes, it's a reference to the "It's not if but when 3rd gear goes out on you" zzr |
| 00:30.54 | MeanEYE | Image is mounted? |
| 00:31.02 | MeanEYE | Or flash driver oacy ? |
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| 00:31.10 | oacy | MeanEYE, oh, no, flash drive was mounted. image not |
| 00:31.42 | MeanEYE | oacy, okay, so now the hard part, finding magic number. |
| 00:31.51 | rachaellee | ZZRMike, maybe, but i know zxr's well |
| 00:32.00 | oacy | MeanEYE, I'd already found luks headers, if you mean them |
| 00:32.15 | MeanEYE | Oooh, so it's encrypted. |
| 00:32.20 | oacy | MeanEYE, yes |
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| 00:32.38 | oacy | but I managed to decrypt with luks header and password |
| 00:33.09 | oacy | yet, as I wrote above, the folders were shown in red, when I testdisked it |
| 00:33.11 | MeanEYE | oacy, I am not familiar how luks image stores data. |
| 00:33.39 | MeanEYE | oacy, so you decrypt luks image and then mount it somewhere? |
| 00:33.47 | MeanEYE | Did you try making an image of decrypted image? |
| 00:34.18 | oacy | MeanEYE, no, I haven't made an image of the decrypted one. but I can decrypt it again in a little while now, too |
| 00:34.45 | MeanEYE | Am guessing we won't find any super-blocks on encrypted image. |
| 00:34.48 | oacy | but yes, I decrypted and mounted it |
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| 00:35.07 | MeanEYE | Can you mount it read-only and then make an image of decrypted image? |
| 00:35.33 | MeanEYE | Actually. |
| 00:35.41 | MeanEYE | You don't have to make an image. Just mount it read-only. |
| 00:36.03 | oacy | MeanEYE, the thing with decrypted partition was that it had the same name as the original partition, but it was shown 5 times larger. |
| 00:36.03 | MeanEYE | Am unsure how to proceed with luks here. |
| 00:36.04 | MeanEYE | :/ |
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| 00:36.38 | oacy | like, the original one was 3,5gb, as I said. but the latter one was 17gb |
| 00:36.59 | oacy | ok, mounting it now |
| 00:38.20 | MeanEYE | oacy, how do you mount it? |
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| 00:40.55 | oacy | MeanEYE, when I decrypted it, I used the original drive, because I didnt have the full disk image then. now I will try to use the image. I'd mounted it with 'mount -o ro /dev/mapper/luksloopX /mnt/luksloopX' |
| 00:41.08 | MeanEYE | Okay. |
| 00:41.16 | MeanEYE | So we work with /dev/mapper/luksloopX |
| 00:41.27 | MeanEYE | Do the super-block search with that device. |
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| 00:42.17 | oacy | MeanEYE, sorry, which device? the decrypted image? |
| 00:42.26 | oacy | or the full disk image? |
| 00:42.33 | MeanEYE | Well image is encrypted. |
| 00:42.37 | oacy | yes |
| 00:42.44 | ZZRMike | I'm trying to install java from the jdk tar, and I know that I can sort of just drop it anywhere. But is there a preferred location to place the jdk root directory? |
| 00:43.08 | MeanEYE | So you do "cryptsetup image device"? |
| 00:43.23 | MeanEYE | oacy, ^ |
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| 00:43.54 | oacy | MeanEYE, yes |
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| 00:44.50 | MeanEYE | oacy, so in theory you can mount encrypted image, and we don't have to work with real drive by issuing: cryptsetup /path/to/image somedev1 |
| 00:45.00 | PadawanLearner | ZZRMike: i guess you should drop it around /usr/local/... |
| 00:45.07 | MeanEYE | oacy, Sorry I don't have too much experience with luks. |
| 00:45.23 | MeanEYE | oacy, and that should produce /dev/mapper/somedev1 |
| 00:45.45 | oacy | MeanEYE, yes, I think so |
| 00:46.25 | MeanEYE | oacy, so do that with image, but don't mount it... and then do: dumpe2fs /dev/mapper/somedev1 | grep -i superblock |
| 00:47.26 | oacy | MeanEYE, but I first decrypt the partition and create the decrypted image, right? |
| 00:48.00 | MeanEYE | oacy, since you are decrypting image, I don't think you need to create decrypted image. Since we can work with that. |
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| 00:49.00 | oacy | MeanEYE, yes, sure, you're right. I only hope I can decrypt it from the image as I did from the drive. if not, I can still try with the drive |
| 00:49.21 | oacy | so far looks good. headers shown |
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| 00:50.56 | MeanEYE | oacy, so run that dumpe2fs on mapper device. |
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| 00:51.54 | simonpatapon | hi |
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| 00:53.54 | simonpatapon | I want to use a GeForce GTX 560 TI & my onboard card for quad monitor |
| 00:54.08 | oacy | MeanEYE, decrypted and mounted |
| 00:54.08 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, Intel? |
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| 00:54.27 | simonpatapon | yes |
| 00:54.30 | MeanEYE | oacy, no mount needed. Just decryption. So run that dumpe2fs I pasted few moments ago. |
| 00:54.44 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, with proprietary drivers? |
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| 00:54.59 | simonpatapon | here is xrandr output http://pastebin.com/mukPGQCq |
| 00:55.22 | simonpatapon | MeanEYE: i cant recall but I guess its open drivers |
| 00:55.30 | simonpatapon | SID box |
| 00:55.54 | simonpatapon | DVI-I-2 and 3 says disconnected but monitors are connected |
| 00:56.02 | oacy | MeanEYE, oh, sorry, sure. run it on /dev/mapper/luksloop2, like 'dumpe2fs /dev/mapper/luksloop2 | grep -i superblock' ? |
| 00:56.25 | MeanEYE | oacy, well, if that's the one you decrypted, then yes. |
| 00:56.29 | somiaj | simonpatapon: are they connected though some kvm switch? |
| 00:56.36 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, with open source drivers you shouldn't have any issues. |
| 00:56.41 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, let me check output |
| 00:56.48 | oacy | MeanEYE, yes, that is what is shown as device, and read-only |
| 00:56.53 | MeanEYE | oacy, good. |
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| 00:56.59 | somiaj | simonpatapon: or could it be the edid of the monintors you are using can't be correctly read? |
| 00:57.06 | simonpatapon | not KVM but VGA to DVI adaptor for one and DVI to DVI |
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| 00:57.22 | simonpatapon | i use to sets of EVGA Interview monitors |
| 00:57.30 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, ah, this is your nvidia card xrandr. |
| 00:57.43 | MeanEYE | You have to configure X.Org to have 2 screens, one for each card. |
| 00:57.56 | MeanEYE | Mind you, in X.Org terminology screen != monitor |
| 00:57.59 | simonpatapon | http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=200-LM-1700-KR |
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| 00:58.04 | oacy | MeanEYE, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13243624 |
| 00:58.15 | somiaj | simonpatapon: sometimes the edid of the monintors cannot be read correctly (thinks like a kvm switch can make this harder) and xrandr wont correctly detect the attached monintor. There are wasy to force xrandr to give a paticular display a modeline if it isn't getting it from the edid of the monintor that you have plugged in. |
| 00:58.25 | MeanEYE | oacy, and that's what we were looking for. |
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| 00:58.40 | oacy | MeanEYE, ole! |
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| 00:58.52 | MeanEYE | oacy, now you can mount this block device to directory using different super-block. |
| 00:59.15 | oacy | MeanEYE, how could I do it? |
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| 00:59.55 | MeanEYE | oacy, so: mount -o sb=32768 /dev/mapper/luksloop2 /some/dir |
| 01:00.24 | MeanEYE | oacy, mind you, sb= number from the list you gave me. So valid numbers are 32768, 98304 etc. |
| 01:00.46 | MeanEYE | oacy, you will have to try them one by one until you get to one that's valid and working properly. |
| 01:00.51 | oacy | MeanEYE, where would '/some/dir' be? |
| 01:00.55 | mi11k1 | hey everybody, I have a VPS, and I want to have a few email addresses at my domain, it's mostly incoming mail, so what would be the easiest way to set this up, I don't even mind if I get the email through SFTP or etc, I've read a bunch of stuff about postfix and dovecot, and it looks pretty complicated, any advice? |
| 01:01.11 | MeanEYE | oacy, you can create a new one: mkdir /mnt/test or whatever. |
| 01:01.14 | MeanEYE | It's really up to you. |
| 01:01.30 | oacy | MeanEYE, oh, so if succeeded, it'd be mounted there? |
| 01:01.50 | MeanEYE | Yes. |
| 01:02.03 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, http://pastebin.com/ZKuT4ddq |
| 01:02.22 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, this is my working config for nVidia + Intel combo with closed source drivers. |
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| 01:02.43 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, mind you, hardware acceleration would work only on nVidia, since they have a tendency to mess around with opengl libs. |
| 01:02.56 | markybob | mi11k1, it's not that complicated. https://wiki.debian.org/Postfix |
| 01:02.57 | PadawanLearner | mi11k1: if you are avoiding running your own mail server you can go with fetchmail as long as you have pop provider |
| 01:02.57 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, BusID you can get by doing lspci command. |
| 01:03.11 | simonpatapon | MeanEYE: here is mine unmodified http://pastebin.com/mDbgv6Zf |
| 01:03.38 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, give me the output of lspci |
| 01:04.02 | simonpatapon | I seehttp://pastebin.com/nqhXa3a2 |
| 01:04.10 | simonpatapon | oups |
| 01:04.15 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, all cool, I got it. |
| 01:04.18 | simonpatapon | thx for you time by the way |
| 01:04.34 | simonpatapon | i see some i915 things in dmesg |
| 01:04.43 | simonpatapon | so i guess its detected |
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| 01:05.06 | simonpatapon | complete noob here :/ |
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| 01:05.20 | MsWr0ng | hi |
| 01:05.30 | bytemonkey | hi |
| 01:05.34 | MsWr0ng | oh |
| 01:05.35 | oacy | MeanEYE, all failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13243673 |
| 01:05.53 | MsWr0ng | anyone knows if there is chinese chat room here |
| 01:06.13 | markybob | !cn |
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| 01:06.31 | dvs | ??? |
| 01:06.43 | MsWr0ng | .. |
| 01:06.47 | PadawanLearner | MsWr0ng: no clue |
| 01:07.06 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, this should work unless I messed something up. http://pastebin.com/2EW1XZ9D |
| 01:07.32 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, mind you, I selected nouveau driver for nVidia, which means no gaming on that card but it's good for testing. |
| 01:07.59 | MsWr0ng | it is ok |
| 01:08.01 | simonpatapon | ok let me try this |
| 01:08.03 | hiexpo | !nvidia |
| 01:08.04 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:08.06 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, if you want to enable nVidia proprietary driver, replace "nouveau" with "nvidia" |
| 01:08.30 | simonpatapon | MeanEYE: no gaming, I<ll just be happy with 4 monitor |
| 01:08.41 | simonpatapon | let me systemctl restart gdm3 |
| 01:08.55 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, so this should work, but here's the catch you won't be able to drag windows from Intel card to nVidia. |
| 01:09.34 | MeanEYE | I wonder if Wayland is ready for multi-head setup. |
| 01:09.54 | MeanEYE | oacy, any progress? |
| 01:10.09 | oacy | MeanEYE, all failed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13243673 |
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| 01:10.38 | markybob | oacy, you know ubuntu isn't supported here, right? |
| 01:11.50 | MeanEYE | oacy, try adding -t ext4 |
| 01:11.59 | oacy | MeanEYE, ok |
| 01:12.09 | MeanEYE | Didn't even notice Ubuntu. |
| 01:12.21 | dvs | !lart MeanEYE |
| 01:12.21 | dpkg | installs a bad bootloader on MeanEYE and turns MeanEYE into a brick |
| 01:12.29 | MeanEYE | Haha. |
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| 01:13.46 | oacy | MeanEYE, the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13243744 |
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| 01:16.01 | MeanEYE | oacy, this is very strange. At least one of those should be usable. It's nearly impossible to have so many damaged super-blocks. |
| 01:16.12 | MeanEYE | Sure, one can get accidentally damaged, but every single one. |
| 01:16.14 | MeanEYE | That's fishy. |
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| 01:21.27 | oacy | MeanEYE, dmesg | tail output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13243807 |
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| 01:23.24 | oacy | MeanEYE, how about the fsck command above that were mentioned when you were talking: 'fsck -b magic_number /dev/xyz' ? |
| 01:23.57 | MeanEYE | oacy, fsck changes things. You can try it, but do backup. |
| 01:24.50 | MeanEYE | oacy, if that fails, Ubuntu has a guide on this matter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery |
| 01:25.08 | MeanEYE | oacy, so give that a shot. I find it really suspicious that all super-blocks are damaged. It's very strange. |
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| 01:25.52 | MeanEYE | dvs, can I get that bootloader uninstalled? |
| 01:26.10 | simonpatapon | ummm |
| 01:26.14 | oacy | MeanEYE, you mean I try fsckß |
| 01:26.15 | oacy | ? |
| 01:26.26 | MeanEYE | oacy, yes. But backup that file in case something changes. |
| 01:26.33 | simonpatapon | good news the screen on intel were displaying that it dont work :) |
| 01:26.45 | simonpatapon | it means adaptors are working lol |
| 01:27.03 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 01:27.05 | simonpatapon | I had to ssh in with phone to remove xorg.conf |
| 01:27.24 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, :D about time you learn about SysRq :D |
| 01:27.42 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, but if you rebooted then send Xorg.1.log |
| 01:28.59 | simonpatapon | http://pastebin.com/kxZqZzSz |
| 01:29.21 | oacy | MeanEYE, I have this full disk image that I just decrypted now, which I can use for fsck. I still have the original drive there, but should I be really paranoid to create a second image of it? |
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| 01:30.04 | simonpatapon | it seams to look for nvidia and not nouveau |
| 01:30.12 | MeanEYE | oacy, just copy image file. |
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| 01:30.30 | dimitry7 | where's the /etc/rsyslog.d/bash.conf, in Wheezy? |
| 01:30.31 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, send Xorg.0.log |
| 01:31.11 | oacy | MeanEYE, the problem is the disk space..I'd need to move around many folders to make room for a full drive image. |
| 01:31.35 | MeanEYE | Didn't you say it was 3.5GB? |
| 01:31.42 | simonpatapon | http://pastebin.com/EDT4A6g5 |
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| 01:32.17 | simonpatapon | 1.log is with your conf, o.log is wihtout any conf |
| 01:32.37 | MeanEYE | I don't see things loading simonpatapon |
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| 01:33.02 | oacy | MeanEYE, the 3,5gb partition image did not mount when I tried it first, and I moved on to the full drive image, which mounted and was decrypted. I can try again with 3,5gb, but I am not very hopeful about it. |
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| 01:35.37 | MeanEYE | oacy, ah okay. |
| 01:36.10 | oacy | MeanEYE, I am trying to decrypt 3,5gb again..maybe it will work, too |
| 01:36.24 | simonpatapon | maybe if i remove BusID? |
| 01:36.32 | simonpatapon | from you conf? |
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| 01:38.32 | simonpatapon | PCI: (0:2:0:0) seams to be my nvidia and is set to intel in your conf |
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| 01:40.49 | simonpatapon | i'll add an # in front of both BusID and reboot |
| 01:40.53 | simonpatapon | see you :) |
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| 01:43.51 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, don't add #, and you can comment out busid, it should detect. |
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| 01:45.59 | simonpatapon | MeanEYE: didnt work, i just delete the line and not add # ? |
| 01:46.10 | MeanEYE | Yes. |
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| 01:51.37 | simonpatapon | still dont |
| 01:52.03 | simonpatapon | http://pastebin.com/eLX3FUf7 |
| 01:52.46 | simonpatapon | still tries to load nvidia instead of nouveau |
| 01:52.48 | simonpatapon | and fails |
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| 01:54.10 | simonpatapon | shoud I sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 02:04.04 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, where are you saving this file? |
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| 02:04.14 | MeanEYE | Because it looks like it's not being loaded. |
| 02:05.03 | simonpatapon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:05.20 | MeanEYE | Show me that file please. |
| 02:06.01 | simonpatapon | http://pastebin.com/1dLzL8mE |
| 02:06.04 | simonpatapon | thx again sir |
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| 02:06.35 | MeanEYE | No need for "sir' :D |
| 02:08.20 | MeanEYE | Okay, can you remove ModelName "dell..." and following two lines. |
| 02:08.44 | MeanEYE | And then try and give us the log. |
| 02:08.59 | MeanEYE | Mind you, you can access CLI by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
| 02:09.34 | simonpatapon | I tryied but didnt work |
| 02:09.40 | simonpatapon | hence th ssh |
| 02:09.45 | simonpatapon | i<ll re in a few |
| 02:09.50 | MeanEYE | Ok |
| 02:10.03 | MeanEYE | I need the right log file. |
| 02:10.28 | MeanEYE | Those that I got currently are weird. It's as if that config file is not being loaded. |
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| 02:16.14 | simonpatapon | still the same http://pastebin.com/4FdGWcMk |
| 02:16.56 | simonpatapon | umm |
| 02:16.59 | simonpatapon | you are right |
| 02:17.08 | simonpatapon | [ 53886.514] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Sun Sep 13 13:09:46 2015 |
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| 02:18.38 | simonpatapon | even 0.log has a strange date [ 3.604] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Oct 1 23:17:17 2015 |
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| 02:20.49 | simonpatapon | seems it dont log or something.. all logs are very old |
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| 02:20.52 | simonpatapon | http://pastebin.com/UbfAYiXu |
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| 02:21.38 | MeanEYE | Strange indeed. |
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| 02:21.54 | MeanEYE | Do you have systemd? |
| 02:22.00 | simonpatapon | yes |
| 02:22.16 | simonpatapon | mix of both, installed Jessie but went to sid |
| 02:22.26 | MeanEYE | Hm, prehaps something broke there. |
| 02:22.29 | MeanEYE | Try journalctl |
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| 02:22.32 | MeanEYE | And see if there's log there. |
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| 02:26.13 | MeanEYE | simonpatapon, I have to hit the bed. Past 3am here. So log should give more info. That config worked for me, so it's a matter of tweaks I suppose. |
| 02:26.25 | MeanEYE | Perhaps someone else can help. If nothing else, I'll help tmw. |
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| 02:26.28 | simonpatapon | thank you very much again |
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| 02:26.47 | MeanEYE | Sorry I wasn't of more help. |
| 02:26.55 | MeanEYE | Getting logs is priority :D then you can see what's going on wrong. |
| 02:27.00 | MeanEYE | Perhaps nouveau is nto installed. |
| 02:27.15 | MeanEYE | Am off. Have fun folks. |
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| 02:27.35 | simonpatapon | found them /home/sime/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.1.log |
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| 02:27.43 | simonpatapon | lol sorry for wasting you time |
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| 02:48.18 | chastised | hi on jessie 8 would anything about this command be wrong?: sudo apt-get install ruby2.1 (it seemed to install but 'ruby --version' returns nothing) |
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| 02:48.50 | dvs | ,v ruby2.1 |
| 02:48.52 | judd | Package: ruby2.1 on amd64 -- jessie-security: 2.1.5-2+deb8u1; jessie: 2.1.5-2+deb8u2; sid: 2.1.5-4; stretch: 2.1.5-4 |
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| 02:50.29 | chastised | dvs judd sorry could you both elaborate? |
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| 02:51.23 | dvs | chastised: There's nothing wrong with the apt command but I know nothing about ruby |
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| 02:52.41 | chastised | thanks yeah dvs 'ruby2.1 --version' returned a version. pax |
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| 02:57.46 | chastised | judd would you mind commenting on those flags you posted? |
| 02:58.23 | dvs | judd what are you |
| 02:58.48 | chastised | let me guess another bot... |
| 02:58.52 | dvs | judd: what are you |
| 02:59.04 | dvs | a silent one at that |
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| 03:01.10 | chastised | dvs the basic 'interactive ruby' repl won't work. not sure what's up. the binaries are installed I guess. |
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| 03:02.11 | glassresistor | setting up debian on an asus zenbook with secure boot and uefi |
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| 03:02.51 | glassresistor | or do i need to preload some drivers? |
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| 03:05.01 | dvs | chastised: if the ruby2.1 package is installed the binaries should be too |
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| 03:06.53 | lesta | glassresistor: to install I use a android mobile (tethering) and a net cd |
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| 03:45.44 | chastised | hi I downloaded ruby2.1 onto my jessie system. the binary installed properly. should I remove the ruby from my home directory? noob |
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| 03:51.45 | glassresistor | lesta: thanks im just curious if ehternet over usb would work |
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| 03:51.57 | glassresistor | i'd rather not use my tethering data |
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| 03:59.14 | socomm | chastised: You don't need to remove ruby from your home dir, unless you're strapped for disk space. |
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| 04:05.05 | simonpatapon | any xorg guys? |
| 04:05.28 | simonpatapon | i'm trying to quad monitor with i915 and gforce 560 ti |
| 04:05.40 | simonpatapon | http://pastebin.com/iAjyiThX http://pastebin.com/DAXNF200 |
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| 04:11.32 | crippledmonk | simonpatapon: I havent used dual or more monitors in a couple years but does arandr work to set it up? |
| 04:13.19 | simonpatapon | just installed it, DVI-I-2 and 3 are grayed |
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| 04:16.15 | crippledmonk | are any hdmi? |
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| 04:16.27 | simonpatapon | also greyed |
| 04:16.52 | Nazara | Hi all! I'm having an issue installing the nvidia driver on linux 4.3 (debian testing) - BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffffa057e948 |
| 04:17.10 | simonpatapon | but my monitors are on VGA (with DVI adaptor and DVI on i915 and both DVI on 560 TI |
| 04:17.13 | Nazara | Where should I go to figure this out? I'm assuming there may be a nvidia-driver irc room or somthing |
| 04:19.29 | crippledmonk | simonpatapon: hmm. I'm not really sure where to send you from here. when I did that last it just worked. I only had to export the setting as a bash script to start at logon to restore each time. |
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| 04:31.31 | jpinx | I've been looking for a way to copy a hibernated state so that I can re-use it. Nothing in debian wiki that I can find,, any ideas? |
| 04:34.31 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: cp it and see what happens? |
| 04:34.55 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: a partition or file, you could copy either one |
| 04:35.15 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: I don't know if it will work, but I don't see a reason why it won't |
| 04:35.30 | jpinx | rabbitea1: copy what, exactly? |
| 04:35.32 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: I'd actually be interested in hearing if it did |
| 04:36.45 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: usually, if you have a swap partition, in the boot loader, you have [saying your swap is on /dev/sda3 <- for example, you have a line that says resume=/dev/sda3 |
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| 04:37.16 | simonpatapon | good nite |
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| 04:37.27 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: so, you copy that partition out to the new place [maybe a new drive?] and resume=<that swap partition] |
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| 04:37.36 | rabbitea1 | sorry <> not <[ |
| 04:37.45 | rabbitea1 | ^ maybe you get the idea |
| 04:38.15 | jpinx | rabbitea1: there is a howto for hibernation using a swap file as opposed to a partition, so that is not the issue |
| 04:38.17 | crippledmonk | nite simonpatapon sorry I couldn't help further |
| 04:38.41 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: you should be able to do the same thing with a swap-file also |
| 04:39.06 | jpinx | rabbitea1: the issue is that you tell the system to hibernate, then reboot and the "state" file is gone |
| 04:39.18 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: if the hardware is totally different, it probably will not work at all |
| 04:39.50 | jpinx | no -- same hardware - I just want to boot into a specific state -- not necessarily the most recent |
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| 04:40.10 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: that "state" file should be exactly just a plain jane 'swap-file' |
| 04:40.11 | jpinx | or is there some other way to do this? |
| 04:40.21 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: so there shouldn't be any new magic |
| 04:41.07 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: something else is deleting your swap-file it sounds like ... |
| 04:41.23 | jpinx | I've not implemented the swap-file option on this machine - I did it before on an old eeepc and it wa s bit buggy. Looking at the howto, it seems the bugs are still there :( |
| 04:42.35 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: jumping to conclusions that things are buggy, software changes day to day, and faster than that |
| 04:42.36 | jpinx | so -- if I hibernate, reboot, copy the swap partition to a file, change the grub "resume...." line.. will I lock myself out ? ;) |
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| 04:43.09 | jpinx | rabbitea1: I'm not jumping to anything -- just reading the wiki |
| 04:43.12 | rabbitea1 | wait, when you do reboot, you are using the swap partition again ... |
| 04:43.43 | rabbitea1 | you need to boot into something else, which can see that untouched swap space, then cp with that |
| 04:43.59 | jpinx | I think this calls for a bit of experimentation in a vm ;) |
| 04:44.09 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: always is a plus |
| 04:44.39 | jpinx | rabbitea1: thanks for the input - always good to have other eyes looking at it :) |
| 04:44.58 | jpinx | rabbitea1: buzz me in a couple of days if you want to know if it worked ;) |
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| 04:45.56 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: sure thing, assuming that I remember at the time, but am interested! |
| 04:46.17 | jpinx | rabbitea1: I can see that it might need me to write a little shellscript to make it all happen, and not nee me to remember all the steps :) |
| 04:46.44 | jpinx | heads into the vm world |
| 04:46.50 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: my memory is maxed out myself ... |
| 04:47.07 | rabbitea1 | jpinx: my <-- in my brain memory :) |
| 04:47.52 | jpinx | rabbitea1: I've "boobkmarked" you :) |
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| 04:58.08 | x86_128 | hai |
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| 04:58.48 | x86_128 | is it possible to install debian onto a USB harddisk? |
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| 05:05.00 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: yes |
| 05:05.14 | x86_128 | thats good news |
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| 05:09.32 | cafuego | Is your real question "Is it possibly to boot debian off a USB harddisk?" |
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| 05:10.31 | rabbitea1 | whatever can take a filesystem and will boot, you can put an OS on there |
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| 05:12.20 | x86_128 | i'd like to assume the external HDD is the HDD now |
| 05:12.26 | x86_128 | and my BIOS can boot from it, yes |
| 05:12.40 | cafuego | than you should be all good :-) |
| 05:12.45 | hiexpo | x86_128, but you will lose everything at each reboot unless you make it persistent |
| 05:12.52 | cafuego | IO might be a tad slow |
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| 05:13.06 | x86_128 | hiexpo, what do you mean? |
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| 05:13.35 | hiexpo | real slow |
| 05:13.50 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: you obviously need to be able to boot from it, BIOS on x86 can be picky .. |
| 05:14.22 | x86_128 | im pretty certain it would work then.. |
| 05:14.33 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: they don't like the "payload" sometimes, which is grub .. usuaully from the mbr, or grub in a partition |
| 05:14.36 | x86_128 | puppy linux installed and run fine but im not a fan of puppy |
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| 05:14.38 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: for example.. |
| 05:14.40 | x86_128 | oh |
| 05:15.21 | swift110 | hmm |
| 05:15.22 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: so, in how puppy boots, is how you want to put debian on your usb stick/hdd |
| 05:15.31 | swift110 | try puppy arcade |
| 05:15.32 | hiexpo | anything and everything stored will be lost after each reboot all info except the live os will be gone |
| 05:15.35 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: for that machine.. |
| 05:15.48 | swift110 | my channel is #forthenerds |
| 05:16.13 | x86_128 | rrrright |
| 05:16.47 | x86_128 | hiexpo, any changes to the system and any packages installed? how come? how is the external hdd different from internal hdd? (apart from build quality, connector, form) |
| 05:16.54 | hiexpo | !persistent |
| 05:17.24 | cafuego | hiexpo: x86_128 Installed the normal distro onto an eternal drive, not the live version. |
| 05:17.25 | hiexpo | thats why you have to make it persistent |
| 05:17.27 | cafuego | righ, x86_128? |
| 05:17.37 | cafuego | external, not eternal. |
| 05:17.38 | hiexpo | oh sorry my bad |
| 05:17.54 | x86_128 | yes, i'll install debian from a disc into the ext hdd |
| 05:18.24 | hiexpo | thought it was a live version |
| 05:18.25 | x86_128 | ok thanks guys |
| 05:18.59 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: when you do that raw, you might want to view your io read/writes .. to see how much its writing, it'll kill the usbstick depending on its quality |
| 05:19.18 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: hiexpo is assuming that its a 'live ram disk' install |
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| 05:19.30 | x86_128 | yes |
| 05:19.34 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: I'm assuming that you want to have zero ramdisk |
| 05:19.47 | x86_128 | zero ramdisk? |
| 05:20.09 | rabbitea1 | no ramdisk at all |
| 05:22.12 | x86_128 | if you mean what google means (a portion of ram that acts as a physical hdd space); then... i don't mind; just anything that suits best |
| 05:23.57 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: run some debian 'Live' <- brandname, prepackaged thing would be fine then |
| 05:24.34 | x86_128 | so you suggest i run it off as 'live' and not install to the disk? |
| 05:24.47 | x86_128 | why so |
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| 05:25.13 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: *if* you do not care, then yes, that'd have more posts on the internet for you about how to do that |
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| 05:26.14 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: you'll learn more but rawly installing debian to a usbstick, but this is a subjective opinion |
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| 05:26.47 | x86_128 | is this like puppy wherein if i run as 'live' then it uses the ram as a working space? |
| 05:27.01 | x86_128 | therefore being ramdisk or cowspace |
| 05:27.22 | hiexpo | yes |
| 05:27.25 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: plus it will make many more writes to your usbstick, which in flash [nand based] there's a limited amount of writes you can do before it dies |
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| 05:28.31 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: yeah, a "disk" in ram .. instead of a "disk" |
| 05:28.42 | hiexpo | i love puppy linux |
| 05:29.08 | x86_128 | define 'nand based' |
| 05:29.16 | rabbitea1 | you should be able to pull out the usb-stick, and run along happy, until reboot in that case |
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| 05:30.08 | x86_128 | you also mention 'flash' which i assume that would be a solid state; but this hdd is a hard disk with disks and that write head thingy |
| 05:30.13 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: lol, you're trying me... its 'no spinning magnetic platters' |
| 05:30.23 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: its on chip |
| 05:30.35 | x86_128 | okay... then mine is a spinning thingy :p |
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| 05:30.47 | cafuego | What is this, 1988? |
| 05:30.53 | cafuego | runs and hides |
| 05:30.56 | x86_128 | and you gave me anothre reason why i shall not buy an sdd then! :D |
| 05:31.00 | x86_128 | cus its gonna die :p |
| 05:31.05 | rabbitea1 | solid state is sinomonous to nand flash |
| 05:31.28 | cafuego | x86_128: SSDs have a lifespan not that different from spinning rust, they're just waaaaaaaaaay faster :-) |
| 05:31.54 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: the 'cheap' usb stuff, and the sdcard stuff, fails way fast, a 'quality' SSD drive will last a long time |
| 05:32.05 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: a QUALITY one.. |
| 05:32.08 | cafuego | x86_128: It just depend son the chip you use, the ones in a quality SSD and a cheap USB stick are not the same. |
| 05:32.12 | x86_128 | so we need to look at the quality now i see |
| 05:32.14 | rabbitea1 | x86_128: they do fail by the way.. |
| 05:32.44 | cafuego | is never ever going back to spinny disk for day to day work |
| 05:32.44 | hiexpo | all of them |
| 05:33.08 | x86_128 | :D |
| 05:33.31 | cafuego | x86_128: Mind you, if your disk is plugged in via USB2 when replacing it with an SSD will on y make it lighter to carry around, not faster. |
| 05:33.36 | rabbitea1 | if you have enough ram, you can run your OS in a ramdisk and your spinning disk could be your "backup" |
| 05:33.57 | swift110 | hmm |
| 05:34.23 | swift110 | I look forward to the day when I can get a couple ssd's to use in my machines |
| 05:34.32 | swift110 | it sounds like a nice upgrade |
| 05:34.44 | rabbitea1 | its just a bunch of work.... depends on what you need 'for that HDD/ramdisk setup' |
| 05:34.47 | cafuego | it made my eeepc *so* much faster |
| 05:35.07 | rabbitea1 | i also run an eeepc with an ssd |
| 05:35.08 | cafuego | also made it topple over bakcwards because the front suddenly didn't weigh anything anymore ;-) |
| 05:35.44 | rabbitea1 | but the eeepc is... like the thing that, is cool, slow, but always my friend after braking everything else |
| 05:36.31 | swift110 | wow eeec what os you got on i now |
| 05:36.32 | cafuego | For a workstation, you could stick the system on a small cheap ssd and /home and /var on some spinny disk raid1. |
| 05:37.00 | rabbitea1 | I have slackware 14.1 on this eeepc 1015pem |
| 05:37.10 | rabbitea1 | 60gb intel ssd |
| 05:37.17 | x86_128 | cafuego, sorry... i dont understand... what do you mean? |
| 05:37.26 | rabbitea1 | I fight for space on it, but have NAS's etc |
| 05:37.38 | cafuego | x86_128: Just musing about speed and reliability for a normal computer |
| 05:38.05 | cafuego | x86_128: everything installed via apckages on the ssd and any users data on actual harddisk raid1 (or anything that's not raid0) |
| 05:38.10 | rabbitea1 | gnu/linux is cool like that... do whatever you want... |
| 05:38.22 | rabbitea1 | its really ==whatever== you want too |
| 05:38.44 | rabbitea1 | is around |
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| 05:40.33 | rabbitea1 | you could "cloud" /var /home etc if you felt so that it would be entertaining :) |
| 05:40.35 | x86_128 | dezizion time... ramdisk or harddisk |
| 05:40.36 | x86_128 | ... |
| 05:40.40 | x86_128 | hard |
| 05:40.51 | cafuego | rabbitea1: Or floppy disk |
| 05:40.56 | rabbitea1 | you could "cloud" the entire thing |
| 05:41.04 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: kernels usually don't fit anymore |
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| 05:41.10 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: on a floppy |
| 05:41.17 | cafuego | rabbitea1: just /home, a .bashrc should fit ;-) |
| 05:41.32 | cafuego | should be as fast as cloud anything here in Australia |
| 05:41.57 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: korea is fast |
| 05:42.16 | cafuego | Yes, the government invested in glass |
| 05:42.19 | cafuego | Here, copper |
| 05:42.32 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: you COULD get a kernel into 1.44 <-- I'm assuming standard stuff like that, mb, and do it |
| 05:42.34 | cafuego | tableflips |
| 05:42.40 | x86_128 | heh |
| 05:43.02 | cafuego | rabbitea1: just to clarify, south korea right? ;-) |
| 05:43.13 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: cool ... unless I'm not understanding which way that is going |
| 05:43.28 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: ya |
| 05:43.47 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: maybe the boss in N.K. has better *shrugs* |
| 05:43.47 | cafuego | rabbitea1: in australia the decided that they would *not* replace the old copper with fiberoptics |
| 05:44.05 | rabbitea1 | oh........... |
| 05:44.12 | rabbitea1 | yeah, I heard stuff like that |
| 05:44.18 | cafuego | my adsl line has a plastic shopping bag wrapped around it to top it getting wet |
| 05:44.31 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: well.............. they will come around sometime in the future |
| 05:44.42 | rabbitea1 | lol cafuego ! |
| 05:44.51 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: I bet you ain't kidding too |
| 05:44.59 | cafuego | flips another table |
| 05:45.05 | rabbitea1 | lol |
| 05:45.15 | rabbitea1 | sends cafuego some chairs....... |
| 05:45.40 | rabbitea1 | hey, afk, I can't sit but in shorter bursts then I used to |
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| 05:46.53 | rabbitea1 | picks up a chair and throws it agaist the wall for austrailian internet being sickend by its gov. |
| 05:47.03 | cafuego | flips abrotman_ |
| 05:48.53 | rabbitea1 | I know he doesn't take socializing well [still trying to stand up] |
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| 05:55.14 | rabbitea1 | I heard he's got a raspberry pi stuck to his back when he says in words shift-control-abort he gets shot up in the air 1500 feet and parachoots down someplace else |
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| 06:01.03 | cafuego | rabbitea1: naaah, we go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back |
| 06:01.19 | cafuego | just ordered a new raspberri pi actually |
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| 06:01.43 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: I just ordered another one, but the banana pi R1 |
| 06:01.51 | swift110 | thats cool |
| 06:01.56 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: congrads tho, lots of usefulness |
| 06:02.20 | rabbitea1 | current one is being use as home server for irssi |
| 06:02.26 | rabbitea1 | for now.. |
| 06:02.28 | cafuego | wants to replace the original Pi A with the 1GB one for Kodi |
| 06:02.48 | cafuego | then the old one can be camera for the telescope |
| 06:03.05 | rabbitea1 | they have a rPI M2 and M3 now, the M2 is 4 cores, the M3 [not so available] is 8 cores |
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| 06:03.20 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: nice |
| 06:03.23 | cafuego | The one I just ordered claims to be quad core |
| 06:03.48 | cafuego | 256MB is just a wee bit too small for Kodi, it dies every few days. |
| 06:03.57 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: ya, I have the B+ 2 core 512MB, but still good |
| 06:04.25 | rabbitea1 | cafuego: you could do things in 256MB still |
| 06:04.49 | cafuego | Ih certainly, just not necessarily running a media center GUI plus add-ons :-) |
| 06:05.27 | rabbitea1 | for the price of that laptop I was looking at, I could buy 17.6 new rPI's |
| 06:05.45 | cafuego | sold out on the laptop |
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| 06:06.04 | cafuego | got a macbook pro |
| 06:06.13 | rabbitea1 | I have to keep down my impulse lusts .. |
| 06:06.14 | cafuego | on the up-side, suspend & resume work properly |
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| 06:06.48 | rabbitea1 | yeah, in real reality I don't NEED any real new comerical hardware |
| 06:06.57 | rabbitea1 | I should think about that |
| 06:07.11 | rabbitea1 | because buying these small ones is alot more fun .. |
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| 06:07.22 | rabbitea1 | and can do weirder stuff with them |
| 06:07.33 | cafuego | i need my retoina display for 16 terminal clusterssh *cough* |
| 06:07.45 | rabbitea1 | lol, ya |
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| 06:10.50 | rabbitea1 | maybe one day some time in the future I'll goto the maker space clubs where they have 3d printers and print something useful out |
| 06:11.24 | rabbitea1 | there's still only one of me.. so I can only take up one space and have this much energy :/ |
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| 06:13.30 | nickenchuggets | any suggestions for stopping/preventing brute force attacks? |
| 06:13.48 | nickenchuggets | should I go so far as to put ssh on a non-standard port? |
| 06:13.58 | cafuego | nah |
| 06:14.07 | nickenchuggets | I have fail2ban set up |
| 06:14.11 | cafuego | any port you pick will be found soon enough |
| 06:14.18 | nickenchuggets | hmm, alright |
| 06:14.23 | cafuego | fail2ban and key-only auth will do just fine |
| 06:14.33 | nickenchuggets | key-only auth huh |
| 06:14.40 | swift110 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNkDJk5_9eU |
| 06:14.40 | cafuego | no password |
| 06:14.44 | nickenchuggets | right |
| 06:15.06 | nickenchuggets | hmm |
| 06:15.17 | cafuego | which is actually more convenient for you and a LOT harder to break :-) |
| 06:15.19 | nickenchuggets | I just wonder if I'd be able to get back in to my VPS if I lost my key |
| 06:15.29 | nickenchuggets | yeah, probably, haha |
| 06:15.32 | rabbitea1 | honeypots |
| 06:15.41 | cafuego | nickenchuggets: does the VPS have a console? |
| 06:15.48 | rabbitea1 | lots and lots of honeypots |
| 06:15.49 | nickenchuggets | yeah, the host is linode |
| 06:15.56 | nickenchuggets | they have the LiSH terminal thingy |
| 06:15.59 | cafuego | nickenchuggets: then you can always log in via that |
| 06:16.03 | rabbitea1 | keep them busy |
| 06:16.03 | nickenchuggets | alright |
| 06:16.09 | cafuego | nickenchuggets: just don't allow passwords over ssh |
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| 06:16.31 | rabbitea1 | I think he's just annoyed at the logs |
| 06:16.40 | rabbitea1 | I keep saying he's .. I should stop doing that |
| 06:16.46 | rabbitea1 | I hate pronouns |
| 06:16.47 | cafuego | Oh that's easily fixed, turn off syslogd |
| 06:17.34 | nickenchuggets | brilliant |
| 06:17.36 | rabbitea1 | they quick with me, when being off port 22 |
| 06:17.51 | rabbitea1 | they quit |
| 06:18.04 | rabbitea1 | I'm still using pronouns too :( |
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| 06:26.45 | nickenchuggets | haha :D |
| 06:26.47 | nickenchuggets | done |
| 06:27.37 | rabbitea1 | no discriptive statement |
| 06:27.43 | rabbitea1 | sorry, non |
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| 06:30.19 | nickenchuggets | so, if you only have key authentication |
| 06:30.30 | nickenchuggets | how brute-forcible is that |
| 06:30.41 | nickenchuggets | I realize it's probably a lot harder |
| 06:30.46 | nickenchuggets | but I'm curious |
| 06:32.39 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: its like a never in 100 years thing |
| 06:32.47 | nickenchuggets | mk |
| 06:32.48 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: waist of time |
| 06:33.03 | rabbitea1 | waste. |
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| 06:34.34 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: passprase really really helps you too, fyi |
| 06:35.15 | nickenchuggets | I don't normally use a passphrase |
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| 06:38.27 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 06:39.05 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: if you release your .pub key, then they can get in for free, in that case |
| 06:39.29 | nickenchuggets | hmm |
| 06:39.32 | nickenchuggets | alright |
| 06:39.41 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: suppose to use ssh-agent to store the passphrase in memory so its like you don't have to type stuff in |
| 06:40.15 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: thats not *hard* but it can be a little bit curvey learning thing, those agents |
| 06:40.36 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: I'd suggest that, that curve is worth learning |
| 06:41.08 | nickenchuggets | I think I'll just use a passphrase |
| 06:41.12 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: different agents on different OS's, and so on.. |
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| 06:41.56 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: completely doable to get it right tho [there is a light back there] |
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| 06:42.28 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: I have it about half right ... it works enough |
| 06:43.07 | nickenchuggets | alright, well, I think I'm pretty secure now |
| 06:43.10 | nickenchuggets | haha |
| 06:43.22 | nickenchuggets | 2048 bit RSA key |
| 06:43.28 | nickenchuggets | key only auth |
| 06:43.32 | nickenchuggets | with a passphrase |
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| 06:44.17 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: yeah, until future advancements |
| 06:44.20 | mutante | ""Security researchers have successfully broken one of the most secure encryption algorithms, 4096-bit RSA, by listening â yes, with a microphone â.." |
| 06:44.24 | mutante | scnr:p |
| 06:44.39 | nickenchuggets | well isn't that neat |
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| 06:44.56 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: not by "venders" by kids/adults hacking on it for fun and money, they come from |
| 06:45.40 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: its b.s. all those news bits |
| 06:46.05 | mutante | nickenchuggets: you are doing good, the key-only auth is much better than psswords |
| 06:46.10 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: you try the POC [proff of concept] youself, and see if it works for yourself |
| 06:46.21 | nickenchuggets | mutante: yeah, I kind of figured |
| 06:46.28 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: them little swimmers don't know what they do |
| 06:46.35 | nickenchuggets | I think this covers like, what, more than 99% of most situations? |
| 06:46.38 | nickenchuggets | lol |
| 06:47.27 | nickenchuggets | I don't think I need to invest that much time into security just yet |
| 06:47.32 | rabbitea1 | nickenchuggets: when you get paranoid, thats time to do it yourself, use the POCs |
| 06:47.32 | nickenchuggets | I think I'm good for now |
| 06:47.47 | rabbitea1 | we all do ;) |
| 06:47.57 | nickenchuggets | well, I'm not that paranoid yet |
| 06:48.00 | nickenchuggets | haha |
| 06:48.24 | rabbitea1 | :) |
| 06:49.11 | rabbitea1 | I'm guilt of not being so cool, to really find out alot of things |
| 06:49.36 | rabbitea1 | the fix for that is, I go to hell! [no lie] lol |
| 06:49.58 | rabbitea1 | I'm setup for a light hell lol |
| 06:50.19 | mutante | i believe "light hell" is called purgatory |
| 06:50.20 | rabbitea1 | ^ okay, I'm going to the pub now, .. typing too much |
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| 06:50.54 | rabbitea1 | hell is just the stuff your used to doesn't work anymore |
| 06:51.03 | rabbitea1 | mostly.. |
| 06:51.10 | mutante | rabbitea1: does the pub have a trivia machine? |
| 06:51.27 | rabbitea1 | mutante: they have an aged juke box |
| 06:51.36 | rabbitea1 | mutante: and a stacker game |
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| 06:52.01 | rabbitea1 | mutante: its part [hooked on to] the bowling alley |
| 06:52.19 | mutante | heh, ok :) making sure there is still a screen |
| 06:52.28 | mutante | i was thinking one of those pub quiz machines with highscores |
| 06:53.10 | rabbitea1 | I think there is a something on a spindle game... might have trivia |
| 06:53.49 | rabbitea1 | mutante: sometimes I think about, how could I play stuff on all the tv's [they have like around 10 screens for tv] .. |
| 06:54.11 | rabbitea1 | mutante: or look at the security cams |
| 06:54.25 | mutante | rabbitea1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV-B-Gone |
| 06:54.39 | rabbitea1 | I get too wrapped up in regular life usually tho |
| 06:54.44 | rabbitea1 | thanks |
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| 06:57.21 | rabbitea1 | oh, I can already change the channel, but maybe I just read the first paragraph |
| 06:57.40 | rabbitea1 | I mean, stream what I want to them.. |
| 06:57.59 | rabbitea1 | anyway, its way low on the list |
| 06:58.31 | rabbitea1 | its actually not really on the list, because I like them, and I'd probably help them fix it |
| 06:58.59 | rabbitea1 | its a 'list fail' |
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| 07:22.58 | otyugh | hey ! |
| 07:23.22 | otyugh | Is there a way I can know what service/software is making my screen go to "sleep" ? |
| 07:23.31 | otyugh | Because I don't find out :( |
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| 07:24.51 | otyugh | okay, sorry definitvely, mixing pseudo and channels and servers... >< |
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| 07:56.11 | asasmita | hi guys :). I have a question, is there a way to sort with apt-get which updates has the highest urgency |
| 07:56.43 | asasmita | Thx before :) |
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| 08:05.01 | darxmurf | if you apt-get upgrade it will update all anyway |
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| 08:06.12 | beepie | !boot |
| 08:06.18 | beepie | !debian |
| 08:06.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 08:09.46 | darxmurf | I'm still fighting with this nvidia and bin launched from ssh -X :-/ |
| 08:10.03 | darxmurf | When I run glxinfo remotely on the machine here is what I get |
| 08:10.05 | darxmurf | http://pastebin.com/wqTPa0aE |
| 08:10.42 | darxmurf | I'm running debian testing, nvidia drivers 352.30 |
| 08:11.09 | darxmurf | the remote machine is running debian 8.2 and nvidia drivers 340.93 |
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| 08:11.39 | darxmurf | my colleague next to me is running a debian 7.8 machine with nvidia drivers 349 and can run glxinfo without problems on the remove machine |
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| 08:11.42 | darxmurf | Oo |
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| 08:14.07 | darxmurf | same error from a debian unstable machine |
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| 09:00.10 | mattboll | hello, I'm running debian sid and since a few days (approximately with gdm under wayland) nvidia drivers are running slow. I've got the same trouble as http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/224927/primusrun-optirun-slower-than-intel-integrated do you have any idea of what I should look at ? |
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| 09:33.11 | ghormoon | how bad idea is to take a deb-src and replace the sources with upstream git ones? |
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| 09:34.43 | jelly | ghormoon: that's basically how new versions get packaged |
| 09:34.52 | troyz0ne | hello comderades |
| 09:35.34 | troyz0ne | i am running debian jessie with xfce4 DM on dell latitude e5450 and having some drivers issues |
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| 09:35.59 | ghormoon | jelly: ok then, the point is, that I want to try modyfying the upstream git and don't wanna hassle with packaging :) |
| 09:36.06 | troyz0ne | 1. i noticed my intel wifi is working but there are some errors related to it |
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| 09:36.10 | troyz0ne | http://paste.debian.net/332330/ |
| 09:36.29 | flip214 | If I run "apt-get dist-upgrade", I get "208 to remove". Can I run that command in a sandbox, to try there whether I can install the most important of these then again? |
| 09:36.49 | troyz0ne | any clues to solve the problem will be very much appreciated |
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| 09:37.41 | flip214 | troyz0ne: it says "upgrade the firmware files" |
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| 09:38.14 | troyz0ne | flip214: firmware files? |
| 09:38.31 | flip214 | troyz0ne: [ 2.421994] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: New firmware can be obtained from http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/. |
| 09:38.51 | flip214 | "firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-7265-15.ucode" |
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| 09:39.14 | flip214 | troyz0ne: perhaps installing firmware-iwlwifi is good enough for that driver, though. |
| 09:39.18 | jelly | flip214: which debian release are you using and which kernel? |
| 09:39.56 | flip214 | jelly: is that related to my apt question, or to troyz0ne's iwlwifi problem? |
| 09:40.14 | jelly | sorry, that was for troyz0ne |
| 09:40.28 | troyz0ne | flip214: thanks let me quickly look the link up |
| 09:40.41 | flip214 | jelly: no problem... can you help me, too? |
| 09:41.04 | Nazara | flip214: my only suggest is --dry-run |
| 09:41.09 | Nazara | which will tell you what it does |
| 09:41.20 | Nazara | if it's all libs you shouldn't need to worry |
| 09:42.26 | flip214 | Nazara: it's "blender", "kde-full", "kde-window-manager", etc. too. |
| 09:42.47 | flip214 | that's why I'd like to try "dist-upgrade" in a sandbox, to see whether "apt-get install kde-window-manager" then work afterwards... |
| 09:42.48 | Nazara | ah |
| 09:42.50 | Nazara | yeah |
| 09:43.10 | Nazara | if it's removing things like that it means someone upgraded a library that conflicts |
| 09:43.19 | Nazara | don't run dist-upgrade just use upgrade |
| 09:43.39 | Nazara | you won't be able to reinstall them unless you roll back that particular library/package that causes it |
| 09:45.55 | flip214 | Nazara: "upgrade", even with "-t unstable" or experimental, doesn't do anything any more. |
| 09:45.56 | jelly | dpkg, tell flip214 about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 09:46.06 | flip214 | jelly: thanks, but I believe I |
| 09:46.16 | flip214 | I'm beyond "basic" troubleshooting ;/ |
| 09:46.31 | troyz0ne | flip214: i currently have driver=iwlwifi driverversion=4.2.0-1-amd64 firmware=23.15.10.0 installed |
| 09:46.43 | Nazara | # rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && apt-get update && apt-get install -f && apt-get upgrade |
| 09:46.47 | flip214 | "apt-get install -f" is fine (but says "400 packages held back"), and "upgrade -f" too... |
| 09:46.58 | Nazara | what repos do you have |
| 09:47.04 | Nazara | also which debian release |
| 09:47.10 | jelly | flip214: I'll reserve judgement until I can see the actual output of the three commands that dpkg suggestes. |
| 09:47.50 | flip214 | jelly: "638 upgraded," ... "apt-cache policy" of all of them is quite some text. |
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| 09:48.24 | flip214 | Nazara: stable/testing/unstable/experimental, with default release testing. some packages are/were installed from unstable/experimental, though. |
| 09:48.34 | Nazara | eek |
| 09:48.52 | flip214 | troyz0ne: "dpkg-query -l firmware-iwlwifi", please? |
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| 09:50.54 | jelly | flip214: it's hard to help without actual output, and I don't want to gues. |
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| 09:51.38 | jelly | also, |
| 09:51.40 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 09:51.41 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. |
| 09:52.06 | troyz0ne | flip214: http://paste.debian.net/332331/ |
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| 09:57.50 | flip214 | troyz0ne: then you might need to fetch the -15 firmware files from the given URL. |
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| 09:58.04 | flip214 | jelly: fair enough. |
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| 09:59.45 | troyz0ne | flip214: how did you determine the version number |
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| 10:01.55 | flip214 | jelly: would you want/need the "apt-cache policy" of the removed, the upgraded, or both sets of packages? |
| 10:02.01 | flip214 | troyz0ne: which version number? |
| 10:02.59 | troyz0ne | flip214: "then you might need to fetch the -15 firmware files from the given URL" |
| 10:03.08 | pfote | software raid1 with two drives: my expectation would be that writes are executed in parallel on both drives, and reads on either drive 1 or 2, so that the number of iops for both reads and writes on both drives are more or less equal. right? |
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| 10:04.07 | Nazara | pfote: reads on both otherwise how would you tell if something was wrong? |
| 10:04.17 | Nazara | I don't know for certain but both makes more sense |
| 10:04.19 | Nazara | .win 6 |
| 10:05.16 | flip214 | jelly: " Length of code is not allowed to exceed 150kB" pffff. |
| 10:05.31 | flip214 | troyz0ne: that's what the first line in your paste said. |
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| 10:05.42 | pfote | Nazara: you mean it reads from all drives and compares the data? doubt that .. would mean it gets slower the more drives you add |
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| 10:10.25 | pfote | ok, according to https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Overview#RAID-1 it reads from the disk whose heads are closest to the wanted disk position |
| 10:10.39 | flip214 | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dba7e3e7/ without the individual apt-cache policy data, that gets to be 300kB |
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| 10:14.46 | pfote | and here might be the problem .. what if the drives dont have a head |
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| 10:19.41 | trewas | pfote: SATA controller cannot know where the heads are so requests to RAID drives must be divided some other way |
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| 10:20.38 | pfote | trewas: point is i have a ssd raid1 in the server, writes are distributed as expected, but the first device has 5-7 times more reads than the second which doesnt feel right |
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| 10:21.12 | trewas | pfote: maybe it just requests the first drive when both are idle |
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| 10:22.48 | pfote | trewas: must be somethin like that |
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| 10:49.09 | goodygum | lolczyk stolczyk |
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| 10:53.10 | goodygum | pretty good, it's sunny here! |
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| 11:52.07 | ghormoon | btw is it safe to trash all patches from deb-src when changing source for upstream or does it iften contain some debian-specific fixes/settings? |
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| 12:31.25 | jelly | ghormoon: it's not safe in general. |
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| 12:33.01 | ghormoon | the point is, won't they be incompatible with the new release? |
| 12:33.36 | flip214 | pfote: with one SSD and a harddisk, please note the "write-mostly" parameter |
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| 12:39.11 | Nazara | ghormoon: it depends if it's a point release |
| 12:39.12 | jelly | ghormoon: ideally you'd investigate them, remove the ones applied upstream, identify patches that are there for debian- policy compliance (file paths, embedded libraries, etc) and keep those |
| 12:39.18 | Nazara | ^ |
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| 12:40.25 | JyZyXEL | can someone try: sudo apt-get install motion on debian jessie? |
| 12:40.26 | jelly | ghormoon: and choose whether to fix or remove those that do not deal with policy issues but bugs or features in general |
| 12:40.34 | JyZyXEL | it seems to be broken |
| 12:40.42 | JyZyXEL | http://paste.debian.net/332355/ |
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| 12:41.23 | jelly | JyZyXEL: does it hand there or what? |
| 12:41.25 | jelly | hang* |
| 12:42.41 | Savemech | heya guys, could someone help me with iptables? how i could get all packets to 44122 port and also forward all of them to another destionation? |
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| 12:43.05 | ghormoon | jelly: still better to get the upstream fixes at least, now I've got an old hacked package, because back then, I've hacked it in a hurry |
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| 12:45.50 | JyZyXEL | jelly: nope |
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| 12:47.02 | syntroPi | Savemech, you might want to take a look at (g)ufw frontend |
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| 12:47.39 | jelly | JyZyXEL: so what's the problem? That looks like normal output. |
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| 12:48.37 | JyZyXEL | jelly: those warnings seem troubling? |
| 12:50.04 | jelly | JyZyXEL: sure they are, but they're there as a safety measure. adduser found pre-existing directory where it did not expect any to exist and warned you. It's up to you to determine what's in there and whether you need to remove that, purge and reinstall, or not. |
| 12:50.23 | JyZyXEL | jelly: the directory did not exist before installing |
| 12:50.36 | JyZyXEL | so the install script must have created it |
| 12:51.33 | jelly | that's not what line 27 suggests. |
| 12:51.39 | Savemech | syntroPi, this actually impossible; need to keep this as much simple as i can |
| 12:52.17 | JyZyXEL | jelly: i made sure that /var/lib/motion did not exist before i installed the package |
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| 12:52.32 | JyZyXEL | also /etc/init.d/motion start doesn't actually start anything |
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| 12:52.53 | JyZyXEL | it just return: Starting motion (via systemctl): motion.service. |
| 12:52.56 | JyZyXEL | and 0 exit code |
| 12:53.21 | jelly | JyZyXEL: alright, and what does "systemctl status motion" say |
| 12:53.39 | syntroPi | Savemech, im on the run but maybe you could readup https://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 12:53.43 | JyZyXEL | Active: active (exited) since Fri 2015-11-13 14:38:21 EET; 15min ago |
| 12:54.17 | Savemech | syntroPi, mat there at freenode some advanced network guru available to chit-chat? |
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| 12:58.17 | pfote | in linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64_3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4~bpo70+1_amd64 .. what stands "ckt11-1" for? |
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| 13:00.11 | JyZyXEL | jelly: apparently the correct way to start is "sudo motion" |
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| 13:03.10 | ghormoon | hm, is there some tool that would diff modified package with the original deb-src? or should I diff it manually? :) (so I can make patch to apply agains new deb-src) |
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| 13:08.54 | uriesk | heey :) |
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| 13:09.28 | uriesk | my saned is not working anymore, and i don't know why |
| 13:09.41 | uriesk | it's masked in systemd |
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| 13:11.08 | uriesk | and when i try to "unmask" it by deleting the symlinkt from /lib/systemd/system/saned -> /dev/null |
| 13:11.23 | fzt3761 | Savemech: you probably want something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i <public_interface> -p tcp --dport 44122 -j DNAT --to <internal_ipaddress>:<port> |
| 13:12.53 | uriesk | "systemctl start saned" fails and the log in "systemctl status saned" says "Adress already in use" |
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| 13:19.32 | jelly | uriesk: is there already a process named "saned" running? |
| 13:19.54 | uriesk | "ps -A | grep saned" says no |
| 13:20.10 | jelly | uriesk: oh, if it's masked that probably means some other service replaces it |
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| 13:20.39 | uriesk | hrm |
| 13:21.48 | uriesk | scanning-software like gscan2pdf or xscanimage suddenly stoped working, i just want to scan something ^^ |
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| 13:22.50 | uriesk | but nooo, it complains about "no scanner found" and ps and systemd told me that there is no saned.... |
| 13:23.16 | uriesk | i just hate printers/scanners |
| 13:23.27 | Nazara | /everyone/ hates printers |
| 13:23.36 | Nazara | they are teh devil's spawn |
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| 13:23.54 | uriesk | so, what the hell could be the "replacement" for saned? |
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| 13:24.28 | Nazara | not sure |
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| 13:25.16 | Nazara | looks like sane is still in jessie, you sure it's installed? |
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| 13:26.36 | uriesk | yeah, and i can start it without systemd by just typing 'saned -d5'... but it fails with |
| 13:26.47 | uriesk | do_bindings: [0] bind failed: Address already in use |
| 13:26.59 | Nazara | ...huh |
| 13:27.18 | Nazara | what happens when you [re]start through systemd |
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| 13:27.53 | uriesk | the same... |
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| 13:28.13 | uriesk | that error "Address already in use" is then in "systemd status saned" |
| 13:28.35 | Nazara | does stop and then start work? |
| 13:28.38 | Nazara | or the same thing |
| 13:28.50 | uriesk | ohh, but i had to unmask it first...... it was masked in systemd, so by default it would say: "saned.service is masked" |
| 13:28.59 | Nazara | hmm |
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| 13:29.21 | Nazara | I don't know, might be best if someone who knows saned chimes in |
| 13:29.57 | ZIPY | hi, im trying to install debian parallel to windows on the same HDD. while partitioning I created a boot partition and an encrypted partition manually with root and swap as LVM in it. when it comes to GRUB install, it fails and wants me to try again |
| 13:29.57 | uriesk | "systemctl stop saned" or "start saned" or "systemctl start saned.socket" or stop and then start socket |
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| 13:30.32 | uriesk | or someone who knows why its suddenly masked :) |
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| 13:30.40 | uriesk | i think that happened for a reason |
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| 13:31.35 | fzt3761 | .oO(maybe it should be renamed to insaned) |
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| 13:37.18 | uriesk | @ZIPY: how exactly does it fail, is there some error-message? And is it a UEFI-System? |
| 13:37.56 | oacy | hello everyone, I used losetup/cryptsetup to decrypt a luks partition by running these on the full drive image. but they dont decrypt the same partition when I run them on its respective image taken from the same drive. it just doesnt show the luks header. how could this be? |
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| 13:38.03 | jelly | uriesk: so there's a saned.service, masked, and saned.socket, that's supposed to be up? |
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| 13:38.45 | uriesk | saned.service is masked and saned.socket is there and "working", i can start and stop the saned.socket without any problems |
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| 13:39.21 | jelly | uriesk: .socket is managed by systemd; you won't see any saned processes until something actually connects to the port |
| 13:39.27 | jelly | it's like inetd |
| 13:39.43 | jelly | only different and new. |
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| 13:40.27 | ZIPY | when i switch to tty4, i can see some errors: grub-installer: File descriptor X (/dev/pts/0) leaked on vgs invocation . Parent PID XXXXX: grub-install |
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| 13:41.18 | ZIPY | and grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set 'GRUB_ENABLE_DRYPTODISK=1' in file 'etc/default/grub' |
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| 13:41.54 | ChrisH | ZIPY: the leak message does not matter. the second one looks important |
| 13:42.02 | ZIPY | grub-installer: error: running 'grub-install --force "dev/sdb" failed. |
| 13:42.31 | ZIPY | yes thought so, didnt want to skip it |
| 13:42.55 | uriesk | so it could be possible that saned is working fine, but i wont see it in "ps" because the systemd .socket stuff? |
| 13:42.56 | ralko | happy days! I'd like to create the image of all partitions under the extended partition of my drive. when I imaged the extended partition, it resulted in 1kB image. is there a way to do this? |
| 13:43.06 | Nazara | uriesk: possibly |
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| 13:43.27 | ZIPY | ChrisH: i guess i have to enable cryptodisk while beeing in the installer? |
| 13:44.15 | ChrisH | ZIPY: is that a debian netinstaller image? I never had problem with crypotosetup when doing an installation via manual disk layout. standard setup md -> crypto -> LVM |
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| 13:45.37 | ZIPY | yes it is the netinstaller, i had never a problem using it when i choose "guided partitioning for the whole disk with lvm + encryption |
| 13:45.49 | ZIPY | but i had to do it manually because of dual boot |
| 13:46.26 | ZIPY | shall I try another debian image instead of the netinstaller? |
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| 13:50.52 | ChrisH | ZIPY: I would give the manual stuff a try |
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| 13:54.07 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, I have a question and I hope some guru here could help me out :D I am desperate to use Nvidia driver 352.xx version in Jessie, but now I am stuck with 340.xx line as in Jessie/stable repo. In this link, it is said that 352.21 version can be directly installed in Jessie. Has anyone tried it? And does it work? I haven't tried unstable/experimental before. Testing is my most. This is the link : https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_8 |
| 13:54.07 | tmh1999 | _.22Jessie.22 . Thank you. |
| 13:54.12 | tmh1999 | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 |
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| 13:54.39 | tmh1999 | And one more thing, I am on Optimus laptop with Bumblebee installed. |
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| 14:01.16 | magpie | hi |
| 14:01.24 | majestiic | When using "iftop" I get like 1 or 2 hostnames that should not be related to my server in anyway how is that? |
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| 14:02.00 | jelly | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 14:02.01 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-proposed-updates/non-free: 304.128-1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.93-0+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-proposed-updates/non-free: 340.93-0+deb8u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.93-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.93-6; |
| 14:02.02 | judd | sid/non-free: 340.93-7; experimental/non-free: 352.55-2 |
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| 14:03.08 | jelly | tmh1999: looks like that package version is only present in the experimental branch, which will probably not be usable on a jessie system |
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| 14:18.34 | ChrisH | majestiic: 1. crosscheck with netstat -an output 2. why do you think that are not releated? |
| 14:18.35 | ZIPY | ChrisH: hey, when partitioning and creating the lvms inside the encrypted partition, it show me the LVMs (linear) but it should be (crypt). do you know how to change this? |
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| 14:19.38 | ChrisH | ZIPY: No. the cypoto devices is the PV used for LVM. Therefore for LVM it looks normal, not encrypted. OK? |
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| 14:20.20 | ZIPY | yes but somehow when i use the guided partitioning for the whole HDD it shows (crypt) in the end of the LVM volumes |
| 14:20.27 | ZIPY | when i do it manually it says (linear) |
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| 14:21.15 | ChrisH | ZIPY: I never manged to understand the guided setup. I allways install manually as my special setup is done much faster that way |
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| 14:23.27 | ZIPY | ok this is what i did: i created 2 partitions 1 primary and 1 logical for boot and root. then i setup the encryption on the 2nd (root) partition. and then i created LVM VG and inside a root and a swap volume |
| 14:23.50 | ZIPY | did i miss something? |
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| 14:24.25 | ChrisH | ZIPY: looks OK. Keep Diskspace unassigned! |
| 14:24.47 | ZIPY | oh |
| 14:24.49 | ZIPY | how much? |
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| 14:25.47 | ZIPY | and what for? |
| 14:25.54 | AxonetBE | somebody that use s3cmd to sync local folder with s3 bucket? |
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| 14:27.24 | ChrisH | I create my lvols as small as possible and resize them when needed. You will allways want some special filesystem for special stuff, here an example from a homeserver http://paste.debian.net/332390/ |
| 14:28.00 | ZIPY | ok |
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| 14:29.10 | ChrisH | ZIPY: increasing a filesystem is easy, shrinking in real life not. |
| 14:29.23 | ZIPY | :D |
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| 14:29.33 | darxmurf | hi back |
| 14:29.34 | majestiic | ChrisH I have only a mumble server with no users in it and a webpage without a domain, ( https://i.gyazo.com/c6451574d9592f6b1cad8809ac808e07.png ). Could it be those who refreshes the mumble server list that are displayed there? That is the only logical explanation to why |
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| 14:32.34 | darxmurf | Soooo, still fighting with my ssh -X and opengl apps :x |
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| 14:33.02 | n0d3 | what are you fighting about |
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| 14:33.16 | darxmurf | http://pastebin.com/wqTPa0aE |
| 14:33.33 | darxmurf | it's what I get when I run glxinfo from my machine to this remote computer using ssh -X |
| 14:33.39 | darxmurf | i'm running debian testing. |
| 14:33.54 | n0d3 | and you are doing glxinfo remotely because? |
| 14:33.57 | darxmurf | my colleague running debian 7.8 can launch glxinfo without problem |
| 14:33.59 | ChrisH | majestiic: check ntpq -p and I assume at 2 of them will show up |
| 14:34.17 | darxmurf | normally we run a computing software using opengl |
| 14:34.30 | darxmurf | and it's not working either and glxinfo was to test |
| 14:34.49 | darxmurf | I can just not understand why from my colleague's computer it's working fine |
| 14:34.53 | n0d3 | I see. |
| 14:34.54 | darxmurf | and not from mine :x |
| 14:34.57 | n0d3 | do you have the same hardware? |
| 14:35.03 | darxmurf | nop |
| 14:35.09 | n0d3 | the only difference is versions of debian? |
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| 14:35.16 | darxmurf | hardware too |
| 14:35.34 | darxmurf | on my machine I have a nvidia quadro K600 |
| 14:35.41 | darxmurf | he's got a quadro 600 |
| 14:35.48 | majestiic | ChrisH All of them showed up |
| 14:36.01 | darxmurf | so, different machines, different version of Debian |
| 14:36.41 | darxmurf | that's also the question, when you run a software via ssh -X does it use your hardware too ? I mean the graphic card for example ? |
| 14:36.49 | jelly | darxmurf: it doesn't |
| 14:36.54 | darxmurf | hmm |
| 14:36.58 | Lope | anyone here familiar with sshfs? |
| 14:37.02 | jelly | !ask |
| 14:37.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:37.07 | darxmurf | it's even more weird then |
| 14:37.32 | jelly | Lope: just ask the question right away |
| 14:37.57 | darxmurf | oh and the remote machine is running debian stable |
| 14:38.10 | darxmurf | I tried different vesions of NVIDIA driver also |
| 14:38.16 | darxmurf | on my computer and on the remote baby |
| 14:38.48 | jelly | short answer: opengl via ssh X11Forwarding won't work |
| 14:39.03 | n0d3 | yes that was my assumption at first and that's why I asked |
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| 14:39.12 | n0d3 | but then he said he's colleague did it with no issue |
| 14:39.13 | darxmurf | it was working |
| 14:39.20 | n0d3 | *his |
| 14:39.40 | darxmurf | we have a lab here with a bunch of computing machines and those guys are running those softs via ssh |
| 14:39.51 | n0d3 | hmmm |
| 14:39.57 | n0d3 | do they export the DISPLAY |
| 14:40.00 | n0d3 | instead of ssh -X ? |
| 14:40.02 | jelly | alright, but it won't be accelerated |
| 14:40.14 | Lope | I would ideally like to manage files over the internet using SSHFS just as I would over a LAN using NFS. However I'm having trouble with UID's. I've tried all manner of combinations of uid related options. if I touch a file as bob (uid 1000) I want the file on the server to be owned by uid1000. If I touch a file as root, I want the file to be owned by uid0. But so far it does not seem possible. |
| 14:40.17 | n0d3 | exactly, it won't be accelerated because opengl ... |
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| 14:40.24 | darxmurf | maybe |
| 14:40.49 | darxmurf | n0d3: export DISPLAY ? |
| 14:40.54 | n0d3 | yes... |
| 14:41.00 | n0d3 | is this internally? |
| 14:41.04 | n0d3 | like on the same LAN ? |
| 14:41.06 | darxmurf | yep |
| 14:41.33 | n0d3 | type xhost + on your machine and then on the remote machine do export DISPLAY=yourip:0 && glxinfo |
| 14:41.42 | jelly | Lope: that would require you connecting to root@remote-system, for a start. I've never tried that. |
| 14:41.47 | n0d3 | see if you get the same error. |
| 14:41.53 | Lope | jelly: I am. |
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| 14:42.08 | jelly | resumably idmap=none would handle the rest |
| 14:42.11 | Lope | I've tried these SSHFS options: default_permissions,allow_root (also tried allow_other), and I also use idmap=none. If I set it to idmap=user I get all roots files showing up as if they're owned by bob (UID1000) |
| 14:42.18 | Lope | jelly: it does not. |
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| 14:43.00 | jelly | Lope: which user do you use to start sshfs client locally? |
| 14:43.10 | Lope | So now, what's the alternative. Should I attempt NFS over some kind of VPN to my server? |
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| 14:43.31 | Lope | jelly: : i'm starting the sshfs session from bob UID1000. |
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| 14:43.44 | Lope | connecting to root@foo |
| 14:43.52 | ChrisH | Lope: git sync via NFS an option? |
| 14:43.53 | jelly | Lope: what happens if you run it as local root, and use allow_other ? |
| 14:44.00 | ChrisH | Lope: git sync via ssh an option? |
| 14:44.21 | Lope | ChrisH: nah. Basically I'm sick of editing code in nano :) |
| 14:44.30 | Lope | I want to be able to edit code and test it immediately. |
| 14:44.47 | Lope | (scripts and so on) |
| 14:44.55 | jelly | Lope: the obvious stupid solution is to have two sshfs running, one for root, one for bob. |
| 14:45.19 | jelly | Lope: also, learn vim. |
| 14:45.24 | Lope | jelly: The strange thing is I've not successfully been able to get bob to touch any files. |
| 14:45.50 | Lope | Every time I touch a file as bob, it shows up as UID0 on the server. Then it generally gives an error that it doesn't have permisison to set the modified time on it lol. |
| 14:46.06 | Lope | Not gonna learn VIM :] |
| 14:46.16 | jelly | that's just silly! |
| 14:46.26 | darxmurf | unable to open display ... |
| 14:46.27 | Lope | I could try making a SSH connection as bob@server |
| 14:46.31 | Lope | That would probably work. |
| 14:46.35 | darxmurf | should I change something in my X conf ? |
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| 14:47.49 | SPF | Lope: I would recommend learning vim, it isn't very difficult |
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| 14:48.36 | jelly | Lope: well, your workflow is far from the usual. If you need complex editing, copy the file to user bob, edit it, and put it back in its root-owned place |
| 14:48.41 | Lope | SPF: I find sublime and atom way more to my liking, thanks :) |
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| 14:49.21 | jelly | Lope: aren't there sftp plugins for Sublime? |
| 14:49.32 | Lope | I'd rather just work on the files in-place. And when it's working, back it up :) |
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| 14:49.55 | SPF | Lope: why not make a local copy and run it from there? |
| 14:49.55 | jelly | you never work on files in-place, the software just pretends that you do |
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| 14:50.15 | Lope | jelly: yeah of course, but it pretends pretty well :) |
| 14:50.36 | jelly | Lope: eg. 10 second google search: https://wbond.net/sublime_packages/sftp |
| 14:50.42 | Lope | I don't want to use some fancy sublime feature. I'd rather use some kind of FS. |
| 14:50.51 | Lope | either SSHFS or NFS over VPN or something. |
| 14:51.03 | Lope | NFS works perfectly... if I could just get that behavior, I'd be stoked. |
| 14:51.24 | Lope | (the way NFS works, is perfect for my needs I mean). UID===UID. No worries. |
| 14:51.43 | jelly | then use nfs over a safe network, yes |
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| 14:52.06 | Lope | yeah, I suppose I could use a openvps TUN connection. |
| 14:52.12 | Lope | openVPN I mean. |
| 14:53.15 | jelly | the way I see it, you're already using a fancy editor, picking one feature but not the other seems arbitrary |
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| 14:55.43 | jelly | Lope: it's just a difference between your sftp client being called "sshfs" or "Sublime SFTP" |
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| 14:57.32 | darxmurf | n0d3: machine are not on the same VLAN but I don't think this will chang or ? |
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| 15:00.03 | Lope | jelly: I want to move to atom though, I don't want to be locked in to sublime. |
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| 15:00.59 | Lope | anyway, it's okay, I'm sure mounting as bob@server will work for bob. |
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| 15:04.34 | lubarch | 5/ |
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| 15:05.27 | darxmurf | hum by default lightdm does not accept remote tcp |
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| 15:13.14 | darxmurf | hmm still not ok :x |
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| 15:19.24 | Psi-Jack | Curious, I'm trying to install SELinux into Debian, but according to Debian's SELinux Wiki for Setup, it says to install the selinux-policy-default, but that doesn't seem to exist. |
| 15:20.36 | jelly | ,v selinux-policy-default |
| 15:20.38 | judd | Package: selinux-policy-default on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:0.2.20100524-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 2:2.20110726-12; sid: 2:2.20140421-9 |
| 15:20.45 | darxmurf | selinux-utils ? |
| 15:21.00 | jelly | Psi-Jack: probably because it's a) outdated and b) uggy as hell |
| 15:21.07 | darxmurf | :D |
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| 15:22.06 | netws_ | guys I cannot access after some time my shares, In logs I have string_to_sid: SID @administration is not a valid format |
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| 15:22.41 | ntz | hello |
| 15:22.44 | Psi-Jack | I'm on Debian 8 |
| 15:22.51 | Psi-Jack | (Aka: Jessie) |
| 15:22.55 | netws_ | Samba version 4.1.6 |
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| 15:23.13 | LocutusOfBorg1 | anybody knows how to handle Debian cloaks on freenode? |
| 15:23.24 | Psi-Jack | LocutusOfBorg1: You don't. |
| 15:23.28 | darxmurf | netws_: what's the os on clients ? |
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| 15:23.57 | LocutusOfBorg1 | Psi-Jack, they told me to ask Debian team, but I'm not even sure this is some official debian team |
| 15:24.15 | Psi-Jack | Yep. You're asking the wrong questions. |
| 15:24.33 | LocutusOfBorg1 | I'm not sure about the question, but I know the answer |
| 15:24.35 | LocutusOfBorg1 | 42 |
| 15:24.40 | Psi-Jack | Wrong again. :) |
| 15:24.59 | LocutusOfBorg1 | https://www.google.it/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=the+ultimate+answer+to+life+universe+and+everything&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=xwBGVv2KDOTF8AfsmYGICA |
| 15:25.02 | LocutusOfBorg1 | not sure |
| 15:25.34 | netws_ | darxmurf: windows 7 |
| 15:25.58 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm, so the state of SELinux in Debian is pretty much almost nil? |
| 15:26.10 | darxmurf | from the windows 7 machine does it dispay a login/pass popup when you try to access the share ? |
| 15:26.18 | jelly | Psi-Jack: correct |
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| 15:26.42 | Psi-Jack | Welp.. This'll be oh soooooo much fun. |
| 15:27.22 | ntz | may I ask, why are debian devels completely avoiding a following rules ? eg http://susepaste.org/view/raw/41901250 |
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| 15:27.42 | ntz | ^^ wtf, why for a god's sake ??? |
| 15:28.07 | Psi-Jack | god I believe has very little to do with anything on the matter. |
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| 15:28.26 | ntz | it's completely sick .... |
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| 15:29.02 | LocutusOfBorg1 | Psi-Jack, so do you know who I can ask to get a debian cloak? |
| 15:29.19 | Psi-Jack | LocutusOfBorg1: I'm pretty sure you can't /just/ get one. :) |
| 15:29.20 | somiaj | ntz: two things. 1) There is a dicussion on the mailing list how debian isn't 100% lsb compliant and only has some minimial compliance. Second is jessie is using systemd, so you shouldn't be using service (unless you have removed systemd) for what you are doing. |
| 15:29.30 | LocutusOfBorg1 | Psi-Jack, why? |
| 15:29.37 | LocutusOfBorg1 | what is the requisite for having it? |
| 15:29.40 | jelly | Psi-Jack: afair r.coker tries to update it every now and then, see if you can find some of his posts on planet.debian.net (search for selinux) |
| 15:29.40 | Psi-Jack | LocutusOfBorg1: What is your contributions to help Debian project? |
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| 15:29.52 | quantic_ | LocutusOfBorg1: generally, it requires that you're an active and significant contributor to the debian project. |
| 15:30.16 | ntz | somiaj: there is discussion since 2002 !!!!!!!! I've read a mailinglists !!!!!! |
| 15:30.18 | Psi-Jack | jelly: Yeah. Hmmm.. Well, I'm learning a lot on SELinux, so Debian may be a perfect playground to fully involve myself into it. With the help of CentOS 7's policy source code. |
| 15:30.22 | abrotman | LocutusOfBorg1: Do you do any Debian work? |
| 15:30.24 | LocutusOfBorg1 | not sure, being a Debian Developer, maintainer of virtualbox and something like ~100 packages does count? |
| 15:30.25 | LocutusOfBorg1 | https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=locutusofborg |
| 15:30.32 | LocutusOfBorg1 | I guess I do it |
| 15:30.44 | LocutusOfBorg1 | but YMMV |
| 15:30.45 | Psi-Jack | Heh, but so far, following the SELinux wiki on Debian, activating it, and it still... doesn't come up permissive like it's configured to be. |
| 15:31.10 | abrotman | LocutusOfBorg1: ask in #freenode, I believe they have to validate with the channel owner after your request |
| 15:31.26 | Psi-Jack | abrotman: I'm pretty sure they sent him here. :p |
| 15:31.28 | somiaj | ntz: Sure. But debian isn't trying to maintain 100% lsb compliance anymore. https://lists.debian.org/debian-lsb/2015/07/msg00000.html is one such thread about this. |
| 15:31.43 | LocutusOfBorg1 | exactlu |
| 15:31.47 | LocutusOfBorg1 | exactly |
| 15:31.56 | abrotman | Psi-Jack: Not a single one of us can "give" him one. Staff has to do it, and probably validate his DD-ism with Ganneff (the channel owner) |
| 15:32.11 | Psi-Jack | LocutusOfBorg1: You would have to talk with the ops here, /chanserv access #debian list; and they have to ask freenode staff on your behalf for the cloak. |
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| 15:32.31 | jelly | abrotman: even if I could give him one, he's not my type |
| 15:32.33 | Psi-Jack | Yeah, generally the founder would have to make that request. :) |
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| 15:32.56 | netws_ | darxmurf: I dont have access to problematic hosts I only base on logs |
| 15:33.01 | LocutusOfBorg1 | really? the founder is ganneff? |
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| 15:33.19 | abrotman | LocutusOfBorg1: he's just the person that was given that role |
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| 15:34.01 | netws_ | darxmurf: But why I get that SID @administration is not in valid format ? |
| 15:34.21 | LocutusOfBorg1 | well, I asked him on OFTC, thanks |
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| 15:34.35 | abrotman | LocutusOfBorg1: Good luck :) |
| 15:34.56 | jelly | ntz: "service portmap status" returns 0 when it's running and 3 when it's stopped here, on Debian 8. |
| 15:35.06 | abrotman | LocutusOfBorg1: as part of the cloak, you're now required to stay in #debian and help end users! :) |
| 15:35.16 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:35.19 | LocutusOfBorg1 | sure, now that I know it exists |
| 15:35.26 | Psi-Jack | Heh |
| 15:35.26 | quantic | abrotman: is "end" a verb in this case? :P |
| 15:35.27 | jelly | ntz: upgrade. |
| 15:35.33 | abrotman | no! |
| 15:35.35 | ntz | jelly: congrats, you've obviously found the only exception |
| 15:35.39 | darxmurf | netws_: how did you declare your share ? |
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| 15:35.46 | Psi-Jack | abrotman: Can I be responsible for exterminating.... Umm.. Debian users? ;D |
| 15:35.49 | Psi-Jack | ducks. |
| 15:35.52 | abrotman | nope, we like them |
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| 15:35.55 | jelly | ntz: I'm just not running oldoldstable |
| 15:36.18 | jelly | dpkg, tell ntz about squeeze->wheezy |
| 15:36.18 | darxmurf | netws_: valid users = @administration, user1, user2, userX ? |
| 15:36.23 | jelly | dpkg, tell ntz about wheezy->jessie |
| 15:36.49 | netws_ | darxmurf: valid users = @administration, @it |
| 15:37.04 | ghormoon | are there any premade jessie images for qemu so I don't have to install it from scratch? |
| 15:37.09 | darxmurf | does those groups exists ? |
| 15:37.16 | netws_ | darxmurf: yes |
| 15:37.46 | teclo- | hi what's again that command-line tool to quickly add text to .jpg pictures ? |
| 15:38.12 | darxmurf | netws_: samba is running or you can't even launch it ? |
| 15:38.37 | jelly | somiaj: and that's on jessie with systemd, "service" command acting as expected. The little systemd does about LSB compliancy, apparently it fixes long-standing bugs |
| 15:39.52 | darxmurf | netws_: is it linked to activdirectory too ? |
| 15:40.15 | netws_ | samba is running. Some user use it without problem other not |
| 15:40.22 | LocutusOfBorg1 | BTW https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/resources.html#irc-channels <--- that was the answer |
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| 15:40.23 | netws_ | darxmurf: http://pastebin.com/sXqVnFaw |
| 15:40.25 | LocutusOfBorg1 | and I just did it |
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| 15:41.27 | Psi-Jack | abrotman: How about a wierd-exception then? ;) |
| 15:41.29 | Psi-Jack | chuckles. |
| 15:41.30 | netws_ | I thought it was problem with parallel connection using the same credintials, but it is not |
| 15:41.42 | netws_ | darxmurf: it is not linked |
| 15:41.55 | darxmurf | is winbind launched ? |
| 15:42.05 | crippledmonk | teclo-: is it imagemagick or something like composite -dissolve 30% -gravity south watermark.jpg input-file.jpg output-file.jpg |
| 15:42.12 | netws_ | darxmurf: Samba with few shares acessed from windows hosts |
| 15:43.24 | darxmurf | netws_: I have to go, sorry |
| 15:43.38 | teclo- | crippledmonk: yesss that sounds like it, thank you, I'm gonna google for Imacemagick compopsite |
| 15:44.06 | netws_ | darxmurf: Ok, anyway thanks for help |
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| 15:48.03 | droopy | It says no such file or directory |
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| 15:48.16 | litb | hello all |
| 15:48.24 | litb | can I run a 64bit kernel with a 32bit debian userspace? |
| 15:48.30 | litb | i.e with /usr/lib being 32bit libs? |
| 15:48.40 | litb | the rationale is, i want to load 64bit kernel modules |
| 15:48.55 | litb | but the userspace shall run in 32bit compatibility mode |
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| 15:49.26 | droopy | Help I can't use 'ssh-add' |
| 15:49.34 | droopy | It says 'could not open a connection to your authentication agent' |
| 15:50.20 | jelly | litb: yes you can. |
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| 15:50.49 | jelly | dpkg, tell litb about multiarch |
| 15:51.15 | jelly | litb: add "amd64" as foreign architecture, apt-get update, then install linux-image-amd64:amd64 |
| 15:51.54 | jelly | litb: the necessary prequisite is that your kernel build supports 32bit userspace, and Debian's builds do. |
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| 15:52.40 | decci | Hello |
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| 15:52.50 | decci | pkg-gencontrol: warning: Depends field of package srvadmin-omilcore: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends} |
| 15:53.16 | decci | I can use override entry in rules file to ignore-missing but I want to get this fixed |
| 15:53.29 | darxmurf | have a good week-end folks |
| 15:53.31 | decci | IS this serious isssue..I am trying to build .DEB package |
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| 15:55.08 | litb | jelly: ah thanks |
| 15:55.15 | litb | oops i have just installed linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 without doing anything |
| 15:55.33 | litb | i suspect that was a bad idea |
| 15:55.39 | jelly | litb: oh, if you're not on Debian 8, that will work as well |
| 15:55.47 | litb | jelly: i'm on debian8 |
| 15:55.52 | ghormoon | if I put something in deb-src/debian/patches, does it get applied automatically? (with dpkg-buildpackage) |
| 15:56.04 | jelly | litb: that kernel comes from debian 7 repos. |
| 15:56.12 | litb | oops.. i will remove it right away |
| 15:56.17 | jelly | don't |
| 15:56.41 | litb | hm why is that |
| 15:56.45 | jelly | litb: show the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64" and "apt-cache policy", first. Use https://paste.debian.net |
| 15:57.44 | litb | jelly http://paste.debian.net/332475/ |
| 15:57.51 | litb | unfortunately i was too fast and removed it already :/ |
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| 15:57.59 | litb | the pasted thing is the output of apt-cache policy |
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| 15:58.35 | jelly | litb: you seem to still have some wheezy repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:58.36 | litb | this one is about the two packages: http://paste.debian.net/332476/ |
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| 15:58.56 | litb | ah the security ones |
| 15:59.30 | litb | jelly: in fact now it doesn'T find the wheezy anymore |
| 15:59.54 | litb | jelly: can i just install linux-image-amd64? without adding that amd64 thing as a foreign architecture? |
| 16:00.01 | jelly | litb: remove those. It seems you can still just install linux-image-amd64 yes. |
| 16:00.08 | litb | it seems to find it withouzt adding the foreign architecture |
| 16:00.18 | litb | jelly: ah thanks i will try |
| 16:01.10 | jelly | you'd need multiarch for jessie-backports, but not jessie itself. My bad, I misremembered. |
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| 16:26.18 | tmh1999 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.19 | tmh1999 | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Drivers |
| 16:26.30 | liar | hi, i have a debian jessie installation and want to mount some nfs partitions (during boot), but they are not mounted. if i later launch rpc.gssd and then execute mount -a they get mounted. but not if i don't start rpc.gssd so i am guessing it is not started during boot, what do i have to do? |
| 16:26.32 | Raden_ | is there a way to set a directory so all files place in it are automatically 755 for permissions ? |
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| 16:26.58 | droopy | How do I make a field longer than 1024 characters? |
| 16:27.02 | tmh1999 | jelly : Yes I know. But in the link, it is said that the maintainers of the package said that it is safe to install that experimental package on Jessie. |
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| 16:27.19 | tmh1999 | I just wonder if someone here did it and it is okay. |
| 16:27.30 | Iridos | uh. the jessie installer cannot connect to eduroam, because that is... wpa with user/pwd and... ... oh well, guess it cannot |
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| 16:37.36 | jelly | Iridos: tell yourself about firmware images |
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| 16:40.20 | jelly | tmh1999: oh, try installing it then. Add "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free" to your sources.list (or choose some other favorite mirror instead of httpredir.debian.org) |
| 16:40.34 | michel_ | hello everyone. I'm having problems running Steam on debian 8 jessie. I installed steam through the debian repositories and I'm getting the following error when I run steam: SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred |
| 16:40.38 | michel_ | X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) |
| 16:40.49 | michel_ | I have the NVIDIA proprietary drivers installed. |
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| 16:42.43 | liar | any ideas? service nfs-common status; says all daemons running. (i have to say i never worked with nfs before so any kind of hint is helpful) |
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| 16:43.32 | jelly | tmh1999: then after "apt-get update", do something like "aptitude install nvidia-kernel-dkms=352.55-2" |
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| 16:45.03 | jelly | liar: and what about service portmap status ? |
| 16:45.21 | liar | jelly: unrecognized service |
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| 16:46.15 | jelly | liar: um, sorry, service rpcbind status |
| 16:46.19 | ronin_ | does anybody know what the proper preseed configuration option is to force UEFI OS installation, rather than "bios compatible". Thank you. |
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| 16:48.12 | liar | jelly: that is running (i am going to reboot the vm and check if it is also running in a fresh boot) |
| 16:48.59 | liar | jelly: yes it is running |
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| 16:50.07 | jelly | dunno then, I don't know much about nfs v4 |
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| 16:50.35 | Iridos | jelly, this is the firmware image... it offers wep or wpa with a pre-shared key. but there's no pre-shared key that I know |
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| 16:50.38 | deniz946 | hello, i have installed nginx but in /etc i can't find it directory, any help please |
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| 16:51.54 | ntz | deniz946: dpkg -L pkgname |
| 16:52.23 | liar | jelly: but rpc.gssd is not running according to ps |
| 16:52.29 | deniz946 | /etc/nginx/nginx.conf |
| 16:52.29 | deniz946 | /etc/nginx/conf.d |
| 16:52.34 | deniz946 | that's what i see |
| 16:52.42 | deniz946 | but it's there no nginx folder |
| 16:53.02 | ntz | deniz946: check it again |
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| 16:53.25 | deniz946 | pi@raspberrypi /etc $ cd /nginx |
| 16:53.25 | deniz946 | -bash: cd: /nginx: No such file or directory |
| 16:53.43 | ntz | deniz946: learn please essentials |
| 16:53.58 | ntz | cd /nginx is not the same like cd /etc/nginx |
| 16:54.13 | deniz946 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.17 | deniz946 | im alredy at /etc |
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| 16:55.10 | ntz | deniz946: type `cd /etc/nginx; ls -l' |
| 16:55.37 | deniz946 | pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cd /etc/nginx; ls -l |
| 16:55.37 | deniz946 | -bash: cd: /etc/nginx: No such file or directory |
| 16:55.37 | deniz946 | total 51780 |
| 16:56.59 | ralko | happy days! I'd like to create the image of all partitions under the extended partition of my drive. when I imaged the extended partition, it resulted in 1kB image. is there a way to do this? |
| 16:57.07 | ntz | is annoyed .... friday 13th |
| 16:57.52 | deniz946 | ntz, any clue why is there no folder? |
| 16:57.56 | ralko | I mean, I want the partitions that I created under extended partition to be in one image. |
| 16:58.02 | ralko | and only them |
| 16:58.06 | deniz946 | but i can access to my localhost webs |
| 16:58.13 | deniz946 | its very odd |
| 16:58.17 | ntz | deniz946: I think there is that folder and that you do it wrong |
| 16:58.24 | liar | jelly: this is in /var/log/daemon.log: https://bpaste.net/show/223e5d8434af |
| 16:58.33 | deniz946 | how i can do wrong with cd /etc/nginx? |
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| 16:59.59 | deniz946 | how i can delete all that have to with nginx and reinstall it? apt-get remove nginx does not help |
| 17:00.01 | deniz946 | ntz, |
| 17:01.12 | Brigo | deniz946, apt-get remove --purge |
| 17:01.49 | ntz | Brigo: no |
| 17:01.51 | Brigo | configuration files will not be removed though. |
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| 17:02.15 | jakeFat | How to trouble shoot sound please, it seems to be muted or something |
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| 17:02.50 | Brigo | jakeFat, try this: http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/09/25/cli-quickies-ii-fiddling-with-sound/ |
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| 17:03.00 | zykotick9 | !tell jakeFat about alsa checklist |
| 17:03.21 | ntz | deniz946: pastebin ````dpkg -L $nginx_pkg_name | xargs ls -lad''''' |
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| 17:04.37 | deniz946 | did apt-get autoremove nginx-common and reinstalled it |
| 17:04.40 | deniz946 | and now i got the folder |
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| 17:05.13 | deniz946 | thanks you all ntz Brigo |
| 17:05.23 | Brigo | deniz946, yw :) |
| 17:05.25 | jakeFat | http://pastebin.com/1UXgc0Mt |
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| 17:05.43 | jakeFat | Mine are off, how to turn em on |
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| 17:08.10 | jakeFat | No idea, |
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| 17:08.41 | Brigo | sorry, jakeFat i have to go now. :/ |
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| 17:12.44 | jakeFat | oh sox |
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| 17:14.22 | EequalsMCsquared | Hi, am I supposed to have Debian signing keys in my gpg keyring? |
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| 17:56.51 | klync | hey all, I'm running Jessie on my laptop and often connected using vpnc. My vpn pushes custom dns, but a few times a day, network manager overwrites my resolv.conf with the servers from my lan. anyone know of a fix for this? |
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| 17:57.56 | solarnetone | disable network manager |
| 17:58.14 | somiaj | klync: or use a tool like resolvconf (or openresolv) to manage your resolv.conf file for you. |
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| 17:59.07 | jelly | klync: do you start vpnc manually or via n-m? |
| 17:59.30 | klync | jelly: manually; maybe that's the problem? didn't realize that n-m could do it |
| 17:59.49 | jelly | ,i network-manager-vpnc |
| 17:59.50 | judd | Package network-manager-vpnc (net, optional) in jessie/amd64: network management framework (VPNC plugin core). Version: 0.9.10.0-1; Size: 24.4k; Installed: 104k; Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/network-manager-vpnc |
| 18:00.03 | klync | sweet, thanks! |
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| 18:01.17 | jelly | best to avoid mixing n-m with manual setup |
| 18:01.37 | klync | agreed - I just didn't know about that package. thanks again! |
| 18:02.27 | jelly | whether it's by doing everything via n-m, or avoiding it completely, that's your choice. I'm not using it on debian machines, but it works just fine for vpnc on my laptop with ubuntu 14.04 |
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| 18:33.48 | nebg | hello everyone... can somebody help me understand the output of my lsb_release ? i can't understand if i have a testing. and unstable or a stable release of debian |
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| 18:34.18 | greycat | nebg: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 18:34.44 | jelly | !debian suite |
| 18:34.45 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 18:34.45 | nebg | greycat, i have "stretch/sid" |
| 18:34.48 | nebg | what does it mean ? |
| 18:35.02 | jelly | nebg: means it's not stable |
| 18:35.16 | ewew | !testing |
| 18:35.16 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a very bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 18:35.28 | greycat | It means you are running testing or unstable or a mix. (By definition, really testing *is* always some mix of unstable packages of various ages.) |
| 18:35.51 | ewew | I would recommend to go |
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| 18:35.57 | ewew | !debian-next |
| 18:35.57 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. |
| 18:37.08 | jelly | ewew: they haven't asked a support question related to testing at all. They just asked how to identify the release. That is not a #debian-next problem per se. |
| 18:38.01 | ewew | jelly ok, staying queit. |
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| 18:38.35 | jelly | pointing people to -next is only useful when they have an extensive, nontrivial issue that benefits from more people with testing experience |
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| 18:42.00 | pron | i am trying to do something linke this http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs02.html#preseed-auto but it doesnt look like installer is trying to grab anything except d-i/jessie/./preseed.cfg |
| 18:43.20 | nebg | is itthanks jelly |
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| 18:49.46 | DammitJim | are iptables the proper way to have my tomcat server listen on port 8443, but for the server to listen on port 443? |
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| 18:50.26 | pron | DammitJim: check jsvc |
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| 18:51.23 | pron | DammitJim: at least i am running it like that with jsvc and without redirecting anything |
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| 18:56.52 | pasturesofplenty | could someone help me with preseeding a bit, i have a preseed.cfg and boot the isntaller with auto file=/cdrom/preseed.cfg but it still wants answers to localization questions, i was under the impression that was only needed with url=.... ? |
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| 19:03.15 | pron | pasturesofplenty: you have to specify auto as boot parameter then it delays those |
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| 19:03.37 | pasturesofplenty | pron: yes i did that |
| 19:03.58 | pron | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:04.17 | pron | idk then :{ |
| 19:04.46 | Iridos | what do you do instead of pm-hibernate under jessie |
| 19:04.52 | pron | but leme check |
| 19:04.59 | pron | i am messign with preseed too atm |
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| 19:05.10 | pron | cant figure out why classes doesnt work |
| 19:05.26 | Iridos | hm, seems pm-utils still exists but wasn't installed. weird |
| 19:05.38 | oacy | hello everyone, how can I free space on a live usb when I dont find any files anywhere? |
| 19:05.44 | beepie | !pm-utils |
| 19:06.23 | somiaj | Iridos: systemd controls suspend/hibernate |
| 19:06.35 | somiaj | Iridos: so you dno't need anything additional, or install the pm-utils if you want to use it. |
| 19:06.48 | pron | pasturesofplenty: hmm yeh it does same for me too |
| 19:06.50 | pron | weird |
| 19:06.56 | Iridos | somiaj, pm-hibernate still works ... dunno why it wasn't there, I did an aptitude-clone of the packages from a wheezy system |
| 19:06.59 | pasturesofplenty | i must be doing something silly then |
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| 19:07.32 | somiaj | Iridos: correct it still works. But I think most of that functionality can be done with systemd directly |
| 19:08.41 | pron | pasturesofplenty: try this instead of auto auto=true priority=critical |
| 19:08.56 | pasturesofplenty | append auto file=/cdrom/preseed.cfg vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- quiet |
| 19:09.09 | oacy | I ran fsck on an image of a partition on which I had data but couldnt access due to some file system damage. fsck exited successfully, and I wanted to check the folder again, but first had to change permissions. the permission changing took rather long, and in this process my flash drive space was filled up. how can I free up space? else no operation is possible at the moment |
| 19:09.18 | pasturesofplenty | pron: does that seem right? (isolinux.cfg) |
| 19:09.45 | oacy | interestingly, the partition's folder is shown empty, nevertheless |
| 19:09.59 | pron | pasturesofplenty: try to replace auto with auto=true priority=critical |
| 19:10.16 | Iridos | somiaj, possibly... but I don't know how anyway... and going on a flight tomorrow... so no time |
| 19:10.17 | Iridos | laters |
| 19:10.50 | pasturesofplenty | pron: okay, ill try that next |
| 19:10.58 | pron | pasturesofplenty: it did the trick for me |
| 19:11.06 | pasturesofplenty | wait, did auto not work for you? |
| 19:11.21 | pasturesofplenty | or did you not try it |
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| 19:12.01 | pron | no, auto alias - didnt, however stuff i posted - did |
| 19:12.17 | ghormoon | how can i undo all changes done by dpkg-buildpackage if it died on a patch? |
| 19:12.20 | beepie | oacy, that's something related to reading what's on the usb. |
| 19:12.21 | pasturesofplenty | oh okay, hmm |
| 19:12.32 | pasturesofplenty | wonder why auto doesnt work |
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| 19:14.09 | oacy | beepie, the usb is only a live system with only system files. there are two disk partitions and one partition image mounted on it |
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| 19:14.26 | beepie | oacy, use a partiton manager to wipe out the usb |
| 19:14.40 | pasturesofplenty | pron: ah, that totally did the trick, thanks! |
| 19:14.47 | beepie | oacy, dont see how this is a debian question though |
| 19:14.56 | oacy | beepie, the usb is my OS. how can I wipe it? |
| 19:15.03 | pron | pasturesofplenty: auto is just alias for those things , afaik |
| 19:15.11 | beepie | oacy, um. |
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| 19:15.15 | pasturesofplenty | i knew about auto=true and priority=critical but that was way down my list of guesses of what was going wrong >.> |
| 19:15.22 | beepie | oacy, do you know what a "live distro" is ? |
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| 19:15.38 | oacy | beepie, I use a live OS on this usb |
| 19:15.45 | pron | pasturesofplenty: maybe u now anything about classes? |
| 19:15.59 | shawn | is there a way to update apt-get one time with a supplementary deb-src line without editing the sources.list if you only want to build from experimental one time? |
| 19:15.59 | pron | there is almost no documentation on that |
| 19:16.01 | pron | :{ |
| 19:16.12 | beepie | oacy, apparently i'm not sure that you do. A Live distro means something runs in "context" like a Cd-rom and does not write user data files on it |
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| 19:16.34 | beepie | oacy, just because something runs from a "usb" it does not mean it is a "live" context (like cd-rom) |
| 19:16.57 | oacy | beepie, I need to free space. |
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| 19:17.03 | pasturesofplenty | pron: im afraid i dont, im just starting my adventures with d-i |
| 19:17.15 | beepie | oacy, are you using debian? |
| 19:17.20 | oacy | I am seeking to know how I can do it |
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| 19:17.29 | pasturesofplenty | the documentation seems to be not so great unfortunately |
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| 19:17.41 | beepie | pasturesofplenty, for what? |
| 19:18.01 | pasturesofplenty | beepie: debian-installer (preseed, etc) |
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| 19:18.34 | thatanondragon | Oacy, du -skh * will show you the size of the directories you are currently working under |
| 19:18.52 | beepie | oacy, maybe you should ask on #linux where more people will be able to help, you're asking quite a very non-debian related issue |
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| 19:19.53 | oacy | beepie, maybe someone will think different and be willing to help. |
| 19:20.59 | oacy | thatanondragon, I got the output '44M .' |
| 19:21.35 | petn-randall | oacy: What live image are you using? |
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| 19:27.02 | fusion809 | Hey guys, I just asked a question at Unix & Linux StackExchange relating to Debian, that I suspect a few of you's will know the answer to (http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/242861/broken-kde-plasma-desktop-after-adding-sid-repository-under-debian) |
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| 19:28.02 | beepie | fusion809, try this-> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
| 19:28.07 | beepie | !reportbug |
| 19:28.07 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 19:29.56 | r0xtedy | ? |
| 19:29.58 | r0xtedy | jhjh |
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| 19:33.12 | somiaj | fusion809: I didn't read the full link. What version did you add the 'sid repo' to in debian? |
| 19:33.38 | somiaj | !tell fusion809 about don't break debian |
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| 19:33.51 | fusion809 | What Debian version? 8.2 |
| 19:34.04 | somiaj | fusion809: the problem is you mixed debian versions. Packages for sid are not designed to be installed in stable. That is what broke your system. |
| 19:34.44 | somiaj | fusion809: you could have removed the jessie sources and tried to completely upgrade to debian unstable. In that case you should be running unstable which can just be broke (espically during desktop transitions). |
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| 19:35.33 | somiaj | fusion809: that is jessie or stable. You won't be able to get plasma 5 in debian stable. |
| 19:35.44 | fusion809 | Ah, OK. Lesson learnt for the future, although, what do I do now that I've broken my system? I am willing to revert back to Debian Stable. |
| 19:36.12 | somiaj | fusion809: running unsable could work for you, but unstable can just be broken. But since you are mixing, it is unsure if it is broken due to it being broken in sid, or it is broken because you still have jessie packges in the mix. |
| 19:36.27 | somiaj | fusion809: there is no easy way to fix your system since you 'upgraded' to sid |
| 19:36.49 | somiaj | basically upgrade won't add/remove packages, so your system is a mix of jessie and unstable packages. |
| 19:37.03 | somiaj | you could try upgrading the rest of the way to sid. Then go read the sid faq and ask yourself, do you really want to run debian unstable. |
| 19:37.08 | babilen | fusion809: The normal way is to reinstall, but you *might* be able to manually downgrade *a few, selected* packages if you only installes a small number from unstable. |
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| 19:37.52 | babilen | There is no guarantee that this would work or that, even if it did for now, won't cause you problems later on. |
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| 19:38.21 | somiaj | and since you ran apt-get upgrade -- you have more than a few. You have upgraded every package that could be upgraded wihtout installing/removing packages. |
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| 19:39.46 | fusion809 | Well there's nothing on this Debian VM that I really need, per se, I just use it for testing out desktops, so I'm guessing the easiest way to fix this problem is simple to reinstall Debian 8.2 (stable) from a live ISO? |
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| 19:39.48 | quantic | if you apt-get upgrade'd to sid, time for a nuke and pave. |
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| 19:40.31 | isReKT2000 | since debian usually comes with over 43,000 packages out of the box, you need a lot of time if you are manually downgrading... |
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| 19:40.56 | isReKT2000 | the easiest way is to reinstall, yes. |
| 19:41.03 | beepie | fusion809, guess that would be the easiest |
| 19:41.14 | somiaj | fusion809: yea live iso is just fine. I suggest the install (but really it is a matter of taste unless you need efi boot) |
| 19:41.19 | beepie | fusion809, if you want to test things, i recommend using virtualbox with 'snapshots' |
| 19:41.30 | isReKT2000 | yeah |
| 19:41.34 | isReKT2000 | things go wrong |
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| 19:42.13 | isReKT2000 | just go and restore with the snapshot, and you are back to the form of where it was when you took that snapshot |
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| 19:42.56 | IOhannes | is there a way to search for files in source-packages? |
| 19:43.06 | fusion809 | Thanks guys, for the help. |
| 19:43.15 | isReKT2000 | somiaj, he won't need efi boot since he installs it on a vm |
| 19:43.19 | IOhannes | sthg like https://packages.debian.org/file:foo.jpg, but only on src-pkgs, not binary pkgs? |
| 19:43.22 | isReKT2000 | np fusion809 |
| 19:43.28 | beepie | IOhannes, you can try the apt-file package |
| 19:43.51 | beepie | isReKT2000, vbox supports uefi |
| 19:44.07 | isReKT2000 | beepie, but he doesn't really need it |
| 19:44.08 | beepie | isReKT2000, if so you ever wish to try out efi stuff |
| 19:44.35 | IOhannes | beepie: won't this search in binary packages? |
| 19:44.36 | isReKT2000 | good thing, but I don't know if he'd want to |
| 19:44.51 | somiaj | IOhannes: have you checked apt-file (unsure if it can be configured to only look though sorce packages or not) |
| 19:44.56 | beepie | IOhannes, to start, you setup your sources.list, and apply 'apt-file update' |
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| 19:45.42 | beepie | somiaj, it can also look for source files |
| 19:46.02 | beepie | somiaj, unlike apt-cache -- it searches uninstalled file locations |
| 19:48.16 | peterrooney | shouldn't it be possible to set up a local version/history of /var/lib/{dpkg,apt} in order to provide downgrading? |
| 19:49.13 | beepie | peterrooney, HEIN? |
| 19:49.25 | beepie | peterrooney, whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttt???????????? |
| 19:49.25 | somiaj | peterrooney: there are ways you can manually downgrade and try to automate that. But it won't fix the issue of pre/post install scripts are not designed for downgrading and sometimes that is a one way process (without lots of manually fixing) |
| 19:49.35 | somiaj | !partial downgrade |
| 19:49.35 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
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| 19:57.19 | oobe | dpkg, oobe |
| 19:57.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, oobe is awesome |
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| 19:57.26 | oobe | dpkg, fart |
| 19:57.27 | dpkg | farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 19:57.33 | oobe | good dpkg |
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| 20:22.43 | jhutchins | !botsnack |
| 20:22.43 | dpkg | thanks, jhutchins |
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| 20:25.55 | ader | Hello |
| 20:26.54 | ader | Im using the repositories from brazil because theyre closer to me. However theyre speed is not good. Is it ok if i change the repos from brazil to US? |
| 20:27.03 | ader | Or will i have problems with my system |
| 20:27.13 | mxn-_ | ader: sure, feel free to change them to any mirror |
| 20:27.41 | mxn-_ | you could also use this: http://http.debian.net/ |
| 20:27.45 | ader | mxn-_: Wont there be conflicts? In the next upgrade maybe? |
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| 20:27.56 | mxn-_ | ader: no, the servers all have the same packages, all the same debian |
| 20:28.27 | ader | mxn-: What is the difference between that repo and the us... Where is that repo located? |
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| 20:29.29 | mxn- | ader: read the text on the website, it tries to find a fast mirror automatically |
| 20:29.47 | ader | mxn-: Hey! thats amazing! |
| 20:29.48 | mxn- | just to let you know it exists, if you already havre a fast srever, just put it in your sources.list |
| 20:30.04 | mxn- | it might just as well give you the slow .br server |
| 20:31.05 | ader | mxn-: Its fine. Ill just replace all the adrresses in my sources.list with this |
| 20:31.07 | ader | Thanks! |
| 20:31.20 | mxn- | yw |
| 20:31.24 | ader | How do i do this when installing and i get asked for a network mirror? |
| 20:31.30 | ader | Where do i add this? |
| 20:32.45 | ader | When im installing Debian... |
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| 20:34.24 | Spec | So...currently it seems that apache on jessie doesn't have a systemd unit file, so it relies on sysv/init backwards comaptibility magics to work, is that correct? |
| 20:35.42 | greycat | Lots of jessie packages are that way. |
| 20:36.15 | Spec | Is there anything I can do to switch apache over to systemd? |
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| 20:36.53 | greycat | You could submit a wishlist bug with your patch and hope it is adopted in stretch.... |
| 20:37.12 | Spec | I mean locally, is it as simple as just writing out the unit file? |
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| 20:37.22 | Spec | or is there documentation for debian maintainers relating to this switchover? |
| 20:37.24 | teraflops | Spec: yes it is |
| 20:37.56 | teraflops | Spec: as simple as just writing out the unit file |
| 20:38.04 | Spec | and debian will automatically figure it out? |
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| 20:38.20 | ader | mxn-: Do i replace security.debian.org/ with httpredir too? |
| 20:38.24 | teraflops | Spec: put the unit in the proper location |
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| 20:39.00 | Spec | teraflops: that being ... /etc/systemd/system/blah.service ? |
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| 20:40.14 | teraflops | Spec: right, /etc takes precedence |
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| 20:43.52 | Spec | teraflops: nice, thanks. |
| 20:44.05 | Spec | this is easiest way to workaround a bug i have in another thing :( |
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| 20:52.05 | teraflops | Spec: np |
| 20:52.43 | jhutchins | . |
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| 21:31.42 | oobe | dpkg, poo |
| 21:31.42 | dpkg | oobe: i haven't a clue |
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| 21:31.56 | oobe | dpkg, boobies |
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| 21:33.12 | oobe | dpkg, penis |
| 21:33.12 | dpkg | [penis] 8=====D |
| 21:34.20 | oobe | dpkg, tell aau about penis |
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| 21:35.14 | bazhang | oobe, play with the bot in PM |
| 21:35.15 | abrotman | oobe: please stop playing with the bot |
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| 21:35.28 | bazhang | or not at all |
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| 21:37.05 | abrotman | oobe: stop filling the bot with garbage |
| 21:37.28 | bazhang | apologies abrotman |
| 21:37.41 | abrotman | it's okay, he'll just get tossed |
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| 22:05.29 | lostsoul | has anyone out there lost their NetworkManager on 14.04? Doesn't show on desktop bar, can't even start/edit my other connections. |
| 22:05.58 | greycat | 14.04 sounds like an Ububtu version |
| 22:06.17 | ewew | !debian |
| 22:06.18 | dpkg | methinks debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 22:06.52 | beepie | !ubuntu |
| 22:06.52 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 22:07.01 | beepie | lostsoul, ^ |
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| 22:42.21 | lostsoul | OK... I was hoping that someone hanging here might help. I am also on #ubuntu. Thanks... |
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| 22:50.07 | marioxcc | Hello. |
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| 22:50.58 | marioxcc | Are Intel-type SIMD intrinsics undocumented as implemented by GCC?. I see that GCC has its own names for some SSE* instructions, different from those used by Intel: For example, GCC has names like "__builtin_ia32_xorps", while Intel uses names like "_m128i _mm_xor_si128". |
| 22:51.47 | marioxcc | Nonetheless, GCC supports Intel-type intrinsics, but apparently they are not covered in GCC's own documentation. |
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| 22:52.17 | marioxcc | Where can I find the documentation for Intel-type SIMD intrinsics as implemented by GCC?. |
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| 22:57.33 | zylinx | Greetings, could someone help me with OpenVPN + DNS leaks ? |
| 22:57.56 | zylinx | i am very confused about wtf is going on. |
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| 22:59.07 | zylinx | first thing: is it possible to remove an entry from /etc/resolv.conf without reconnecting any of the adapters ? |
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| 23:27.55 | marioxcc | Hi. |
| 23:27.56 | marioxcc | I want to use SIMD intrinsics in C code compiled with GCC (specifically, SSE*). I noticed that GCC has its own set of intrinsics which are different from those used in the Intel documentation; why is that, what are the differences and where can I find the documentation of the Intel type intrinsics as implemented by GCC (I know, they should be in GCC documentation, but I have been searching it and I have only found so far the documentation for GCC' |
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| 23:28.02 | marioxcc | GCC has intrinsics names like "__builtin_ia32_xorps", while Intel uses names like "_m128i _mm_xor_si128 |
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| 23:31.35 | rohieb | hmmmm. can anybody tell me why every lib is appropriately named lib*, but zlib is named zlib and not libz? :) |
| 23:31.43 | Atm0spher1c | Trying to backport mpv sid to stable with debian source and building it the "debian" way. I'm getting these errors - http://paste.debian.net/332591/. I think I need to edit the configure script, but which file is it? The ones I've looked for say changes will be lost. |
| 23:32.05 | somiaj | !tell Atm0spher1c about ssb |
| 23:32.10 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: those are the instructions you are following? |
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| 23:32.30 | Atm0spher1c | yes |
| 23:32.39 | beepie | rohieb, too bad |
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| 23:32.53 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: I think you are going to have trouble with this and won't be able to easily get the new mpv into jessie this way |
| 23:33.04 | Atm0spher1c | I think so too |
| 23:33.27 | Atm0spher1c | I'm doing this becauase I believe mpv stable has a memory leak while playing webm files, and I want to test the new one |
| 23:33.33 | beepie | webm sux |
| 23:33.56 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: issue is jessie is using libav (we forked away from ffmpeg) but we then decided to go back. So the libav that the mpv in sid is configured for is the ffmpeg, while jessie only has libav. I'm unsure of anything you are going to have to do to get this to play along nicely in jessie. |
| 23:34.18 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: maybe try it in a stretch or sid chroot or vm? |
| 23:34.43 | Atm0spher1c | yeah i wanted to avoid all that |
| 23:35.14 | ewew | ffmpeg is in jessie backport according judd. |
| 23:35.23 | ewew | ,v ffmpeg |
| 23:35.24 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; jessie-backports: 7:2.8.1-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:2.8.1-1+b1; sid: 7:2.8.1-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.8.2-dmo1 |
| 23:35.25 | Atm0spher1c | Right now I have a problem with all the webm files I downloaded and this memory leak |
| 23:35.30 | Atm0spher1c | Yeah I built ffmpeg anyway |
| 23:35.36 | Atm0spher1c | It might be ffmpeg or libav |
| 23:36.04 | Atm0spher1c | what's judd? |
| 23:36.19 | Atm0spher1c | nvm |
| 23:36.21 | ewew | helper bot |
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| 23:52.52 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: I'd suggest a stretch chroot/vm for testing the new mpv. Have you tested mplayer2? |
| 23:53.32 | Atm0spher1c | yes I think the problem is libav/ffmpeg because mplayer memory leak too with webm files |
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| 23:55.23 | Atm0spher1c | I could try this https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build but it too is a pain |
| 23:56.25 | somiaj | yea if the leak is actually due to the libary and not the player you are going to have a hard time rebuilding all this in jessie and a stretch vm/chroot is probabaly best |
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| 23:57.33 | Atm0spher1c | last time I did chroot I couldn't get audio to work, but I was doing something wrong. Overall a pain in the a** |
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