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00:00.52somiajAtm0spher1c: just make sure you mount /dev, /proc and /sys inside the chroot and you should be fine
00:00.54Jan\how do I execute a script (.sh) from command line ?
00:01.05somiajAtm0spher1c: and as long as you aren't doing graphics it won't to bad.
00:01.25somiajJan\: if it has the +x (exec) bit just run it as ./command.sh, you can also just 'source script.sh'
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00:04.11somiajJan\: in the guest? Just use the package virtualbox-guest-dkms and make sure you have the linux-headers for your kernel installed to
00:04.15somiajthe package is in contrib
00:04.49Jan\somiaj: "linux-headers" ???
00:06.37somiajJan\: linux-headers-amd64 for an amd64 install (this is required to build the guest module) and once you have the headers the package virtualbox-guest-dkms will build it
00:07.10Jan\somiaj: ok
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00:33.10paule32hello
00:33.29paule32someone there with squid3 and mysql knowledge?
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00:33.43dpkgSquid is a caching web proxy supporting HTTP/S, FTP and others.  Debian's squid packages are not built with SSL support (Debian bug #180886), ask about <package rebuild> and supply "--enable-ssl" for this.  See also <squid deb caching>, <transparent proxy>.  /usr/share/doc/squid{,3}/*  http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq  http://squid-cache.org/  #squid on irc.freenode.net.
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00:34.58paule32http://pastebin.com/p1zAkhDQ
00:35.17paule32http://pastebin.com/kE3kbVGT
00:35.43paule32this is the config and the included script
00:35.55paule32i want to use mysql to filter websites
00:36.05paule32but it will not work
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01:00.28poffs"can't open /dev/urandom: No such file or directory"
01:00.39poffsguys, how do I restart urandom? i broke it with wipe, i think
01:00.50poffsi tried /./init.d/urandom but no
01:00.54poffscan't restart right now
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01:02.16poffsi think i deleted it somehow. it doesn't show up in /dev
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01:03.19poffs"deleted /dev/urandom" and "deleted urandom" gives me nothing in a web search
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01:03.40poffsah....what do?
01:04.43poffsah, she's back. mknod -m 0644 /dev/urandom c 1 9
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02:41.44ghormoonhi, some time ago I've read about backports and two ways of how to install packages (one was pulling the dependencies from backports too, other did try to pull them from jessie first) and I can't find that now. all I google up is apt-get -t jessie-backports install package and I'm not even sure which of those two scenarios is that :(
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02:57.55somiajghormoon: backports is just pinned low so upgrades will not pull in backports automatically. You have to specifically ask with apt-get -t jessie-backports install package. Once you do that if any dependencies from backports are required it will pull them in. Also from here on out when you upgrade you will get the newer backports version if one is ever provdied.
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02:58.21somiajghormoon: I'm sure you could go download the debs in various places, but if you use apt it will get the dependeices for you.
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02:58.33somiajghormoon: as for compiling your own backport, this is another story.
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03:06.42pasturesofplentyif i need firmware during an install is my only option putting it in the initrd of the boot image?
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03:08.33zykotick9!tell pasturesofplenty about firmware image
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03:10.03pasturesofplentyzykotick9: im okay with building my own initrd (making custom install media anyway), just trying to figure out my options... probably want to shy away from unofficial netinst images
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03:10.52pasturesofplentybasically im taking a netinst image and modifying the iso and such as it is, so stuffing firmware into the initrd isnt a huge problem, just wondering if that the best way to go about it
03:12.58ghormoonsomiaj: th point is, if the package A from backports depends on package B on version 1.1, jessie has 1.2 and jessie-backports 1.3. which does get pulled at the time I install apt-get -t jessie-backports install B? back then, I've seen a way to decide that (maybe some apt parameters, or some pinning settings) but I can't find it now :(
03:13.23ghormoonsry, in that command, should be  apt-get -t jessie-backports install A
03:14.12ghormoonand for compiling backport, I'm currently trying to recompile a package from stretch on jessie, so that would be even more fun :)))
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03:21.01somiajghormoon: Since -t jessie-backports changes the pinning it will pull in the one from jessie backports if the libary is not installed. If the libary is currently installed it might not upgrade it.
03:21.16somiajghormoon: I have tested it, but that is what I think will happen
03:21.49ghormoonsomiaj: I know I've seen a way to do it in a way it will prefer dependency from jessie if that matched, but I can't google up how it was done :(
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03:23.18somiajghormoon: you could install the libary first from jessie and then the backport. YOu could tell apt what version you want apt-get -t jessie-backports install package packagedepends=version
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03:25.11ghormoonhm, seems it won't pull in much anyway
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03:25.46ghormoonI need a newer kernel and it wants firmware-linux-free irqbalance libnuma1 linux-image-4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 and I'n not sure it's safe to skip any of those, I think not. or am I wrong?
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03:26.44somiajI have never looked that detailed into it. I figured if the libs are in backports they are there because they were needded. Though I guess I could see them needed for another backport and not the one you are requesting.
03:27.02somiajbut I've just let apt pull in what it thinks it needs.
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03:27.52ghormoonwell, gonna try that
03:27.58ghormoonworst case I can revert snapshot
03:28.21ghormoonI'm more interested how will end up the stretch package built on jessie
03:28.40ghormoonit still runs, I need better cpu :(
03:29.11somiajone you are building or one you got from jesie-backports. I've been happy with the packages in jessie-backports (though the 4.2 kernel seemed a bit buggy on my laptop so I went back to the 3.16 default)
03:29.21somiajI think this is more the laptop than the kernel though
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03:30.18ghormoonI wanna try virtio-input. so I need 2.4 qemu (even worse that I need to keep one custom hack I did like half a year back on 2.1) on the hypervisor and kernel (i think >=4.1, but maybe 4.0 or 4.2) on the guest
03:30.36ghormoonthe kernel can be pulled from jessie-backports
03:30.58ghormoonbut the qemu is not there, so I've downloaded deb-src from stretch, patched the hack and I'm currentylu building that
03:31.05ghormoonno idea how that will end up
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03:50.13somiajghormoon: ya might be able to just run qemu from inside a stretch chroot
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04:02.54morfdebinstaller is driving me nuts
04:03.11morfhow can i get rid of the weak (empty) password warning pls?
04:03.52morfit's just testing iso i don't need secure password for automatic testing :/
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04:13.26chastisedhi I try to run this 'sudo apt-get update' and get this: "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. N: Is the package apt-trasport-https installed?" then I try to install that package and apt-get is unable to locate it.
04:14.02morf:)) this one is good one
04:14.05stewchastised: is the package installed?
04:14.34stewchastised: if not, download it from http://packages.debian.org/apt-transport-https and install it with dpkg -i ....deb
04:14.57stewmorf: supplying a better paasword is probably easier than creating a custom installer just to not have to supply one
04:15.29chastisedthanks working on it stew
04:15.50morfagree to disagree? :)
04:16.09morfi just want to do my thingy it must be simple
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04:19.29FelixFire619how much space does default debian-8.2.0-amd64-lxde-CD-1.iso   to install 100%
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04:20.35stewFelixFire619: probably a little more than a gigabyte
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04:21.20stewdepending on what you mean by 100%, could be less, could be more
04:21.24FelixFire619so if i give 3 partions, /boot /grub / 100mg/100mg/1gb im good?
04:21.41stewthat's probably way too little
04:21.45FelixFire619here's what i need
04:22.13FelixFire619debian-8.2.0-amd64-lxde-CD-1.iso  <-- everything install by default, /boot /grub / /home, then i need a windows install for gaming
04:22.18FelixFire619i have a 500 gb drive
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04:22.30FelixFire619i dont see me using more then 150gb in linux
04:22.34FelixFire619Recommendations?
04:22.49morfi'm using 8 / 16 or 32
04:22.56morfdata elsewhere
04:23.03morfdepends on usage
04:23.14morf8 is enough for normal usage
04:23.23morf32 is not enough for some crazier stuff
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04:23.43chastisedstew so far so good .. thanks
04:23.47FelixFire619so if i do /boot 100mg /grub 100mg / 8gb /home 100gb, i am good with 100gb in home dirs?
04:24.12FelixFire619well + 16gb /swap
04:25.11morfwell that does really depend on how much data you want to store there isn't it :]
04:25.36FelixFire619im going to run dev/crypto wallets
04:25.44FelixFire619most my stuff will be in /home
04:25.55FelixFire619if configured properly, everything will be stored in /home
04:26.14FelixFire619What is the minimum you would give / of you had 100gb for /home ?
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04:28.48swift110-phoneHey
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04:33.59stewFelixFire619: I would recommend using lvm so that you an just allocate whatever you are comfortable with to lvm, then you can start with / being 1g, and leave yourself some unallocated extends, and if that ends up not being enough, you can just allocate more space from the VG sometime later
04:36.12swift110-phoneMy channel is #forthenerds
04:39.01morfstew: i tried everything, i can't figure it out or find on internet or in code ...
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04:39.34morfand yes i have been trying to actually set non-empty complex passwords
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04:43.13chastisedhi I went through the prerequisites to install docker to the letter, on debian jessie 8. this is what I'm getting : http://pastie.org/10555906  ....    the instructions are here: http://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/debian/
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04:51.00stewchastised: "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" <- this sounds particularly interesting, what packages are on hold?
04:52.19stewchastised: probably something like "dpkg -l | egrep '^h|^.[A-Z]'" would tell you
04:52.36chastisedstew sorry I'm a noob.. thank you .. trying that
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04:53.00morfif somebody could check part of my preseed.cfg ... http://pastebin.com/2YYXRSE5 ... and help me figure it out how to get pass the empty password warning ... :/
04:53.01stewchastised: the other thing to do is to try to directly install one of the dependencies it is complaining about to see why it can't be installed
04:53.35stewchastised: and try adding -f to apt-get, like "apt-get -f install whatever" where f stands for "fix stuff"
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04:53.59chastisedok trying that
04:54.43zykotick9notes "apt-get -f install" is a valid command
04:54.44chastisedthe command dpkg -l | egrep ...' doesn't return anything stew.
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04:59.15chastisedhmm I cannot install anything with -f flag. those dependencies are 'not available or referred to by another package' or missing or have been obsoleted or are only available from another source.'
04:59.33chastisedstew zykotick9 ^^
05:00.16chastisedor has no installation candidate (libapparmor1)
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05:00.27stew, versions libapparmor1
05:00.28juddPackage: libapparmor1 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.103-4; jessie: 2.9.0-3; sid: 2.10-2+b1; stretch: 2.10-2+b1
05:00.47stewchastised: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy"
05:00.53chastisedsure
05:02.03chastisedstew http://pastie.org/10555921
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05:02.35stewchastised: you don't have any debian sources, only third party
05:02.40stew!jessie sources.list
05:02.40dpkgA suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main".  Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list.  Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
05:02.50stewchastised: you should add these ^
05:03.16chastisedok will do . wonder how that was omitted.
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05:05.05mancomunadoWhat can I perform when systemd stucks at "[ok] Starting system message bus: dbus". And last resouce to boot is "xinit startx"? Only "startx" shows "kdm cannot open theme file !!! to be replace by desktop base @@@ mail system possiby broken". And "exec startkde" closes the terminal.
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05:05.57somiajmancomunado: sounds like kdm is having trouble locating a file. That is what I would invesigate
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05:06.30mancomunadoI can live without kdm, if you tell me a command to boot through xfec4 already installed.
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05:08.00zykotick9mancomunado: is it debian or ubuntu you are using?  why are you asking in both channels at the same time?
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05:08.05somiajmancomunado: you can disable kdm by putting 'false' in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
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05:08.08somiaj!nodm
05:08.09dpkgDebian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default.  Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim".  "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console.  nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/).
05:08.11chastisedstew but does that stuff go in sources.list or sources.list.d  ?
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05:08.29somiajchastised: personal preference. If you want a single file or to manage multiple files.
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05:09.16mancomunadozykotick9, for the last days #debian wasn't helpful. And I guess the issue isn't exclusive to debian
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05:10.13mancomunadosomiaj, there's only "/usr/bin/kdm" there
05:10.37somiajmancomunado: correct, change it to false as per the factoid and you wont have any display manager load at boot
05:11.21mancomunadoAnd then what?
05:12.41chastisedstew ok I added those and updated. is apt-get update equivalent to aptitude update ? somiaj
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05:12.57somiajchastised: correct. They all manage the same database
05:13.05somiajmancomunado: and that is it.
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05:13.18somiajmancomunado: no kdm will not load and you will boot into a console
05:13.26chastisedthanks second attempt to install docker forthcoming
05:13.26somiajnow
05:13.37somiaj,v docker.io
05:13.38juddPackage: docker.io on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.6.2~dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.8.3~ds1-2; stretch: 1.8.3~ds1-2
05:14.11mancomunadosomiaj, i'm already booting on a console. that's precisely my problem. I want to automatically boot to a login screen instead of having to type startx on a console
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05:15.22Shadow_7mancomunado: then install a display manager?  apt-get install kdm
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05:15.43CHVNXNous sommes tous Français ce soir.
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05:17.07Shadow_7I always use startx.  But I've got some manual scripts I run after boot.  Mostly stopping stuff and unloading modules for stuff I'm not actively using.
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05:18.21somiajmancomunado: then fix kdm (or choose another display manager). You said you could live without kdm so I thought you wanted to disable it
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05:18.52Shadow_7there are other display managers like lightdm
05:18.57mancomunadobut replace it for something else
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05:20.45Shadow_7mancomunado: you could try: apt-get install --reinstall kdm
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05:21.45mancomunadoshadow
05:21.48somiajmancomunado: note you will have to turn that file you changed to false to point at whatever dm you end up choosing.
05:21.51mancomunadoI tried to install kdm
05:21.54mancomunadoand it showed
05:22.05Scott0_resize2fs is telling me that im trying to resize it smaller than the minimum
05:22.14Scott0_I did recently clear 60GB of data
05:22.22Scott0_but df shows it as freed up
05:22.22mancomunado"packages already installed aren't necessary anymore:
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05:22.23mancomunado"
05:22.42Scott0_is there anything else I need to do to free up the disk space for the resize2fs operation?
05:22.55mancomunadowill reinstall it
05:23.11somiajScott0_: are you trying to resize a mounted partition? Or one you are running off of?
05:23.23Shadow_7mancomunado: normally that just needs the autoremove thing.  And maybe some other maintenance stuff if it's and old install
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05:23.39Scott0_somiaj: no its not mounted
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05:23.48Scott0_im using a gparted livecd
05:24.31Scott0_problem is it thinks the data I have on it is larger than actually is in use
05:24.35Scott0_im not sure why
05:24.45Scott0_gparted notices that its unused space
05:24.50Scott0_but resize2fs does not
05:25.50somiajScott0_: it says under known bugs that the minimium size of the filesystem as estimated by resize2fs may be incorrect, espically for filesystems with 1k and 2k block sizes.
05:26.00Scott0_:(
05:26.12Scott0_how do I work around this?
05:26.16somiajunsure if this is the issue, or you need to fsck the filesystem.
05:26.25somiajUnsure I dont use it, I was just reading the man page and read that in the known bugs
05:26.27Shadow_7use a different filesystem?
05:26.30Scott0_gparted runs fsck prior to the operation
05:26.34Scott0_what?
05:26.39Scott0_its an existing debian install
05:26.49Scott0_what do you mean use a different filesystem?
05:26.55mancomunadosomiaj by changing it to false, how do I replace it for lightdm for example if the reinstalling of kdm doesn't work out?
05:27.02Shadow_7you can migrate installs across storage devices and change the filesystem in the process
05:27.16somiajmancomunado: put the path to light dm, probably /usr/bin/lightdm or /usr/bin/kdm
05:27.58Shadow_7rsync and a few other ways.  You just have to update /etc/fstab to know it's new location, have a kernel that supports the filesystem, and a bootloader to boot it
05:28.00Scott0_Shadow_7: no clue what you are talking about
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05:28.09Scott0_that's sounds a lot more complicated
05:29.08somiajScott0_: if you say shrink it to the minimum size does it get you enough? Do you know what the minium size is?
05:29.10Shadow_7It's also a way to defragment the filesystem.  What I tend to do to move an install onto a usb drive basically.
05:29.22Scott0_somiaj: no, its suggesting the minimum is 80GB
05:29.28Scott0_I need it down to 18GB
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05:29.50chastisedstew somiaj thanks kindly I got docker installed...
05:30.05stewchastised: :)
05:30.15mancomunado"/usr/bind/dm false"
05:30.29mancomunado"/usr/bind/lighdm"
05:30.33mancomunadothat way?
05:31.04somiajScott0_: I'm unsure what to do. I personally do what Shadow_7 suggests, rsycn the data I need to a new filesystem as opposed to resizing. Do you have 18G freed up on another partition you could use? maybe shrink it so you can put 18G on another partition then you can start fresh
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05:31.28somiajmancomunado: just a sing line, /usr/bin/lightdm (it will be the path of the dm)
05:31.33somiajsingle line
05:31.42Scott0_is there anything which would be causing the filesystem to think it had more space used?
05:32.03Scott0_I would have to move the partition to a new 100GB disk
05:32.07Rusty1out of disk space?
05:32.08Scott0_and then try to re3size it there
05:32.13Scott0_but still have the same problem
05:32.15koollmanScott0_: deleted file still opened
05:32.19Scott0_not sure what you mean by move
05:32.42Scott0_koollman: I dropped some databases in mysql  and then shut down properly
05:32.52Rusty1what does df -h return?
05:32.54Scott0_it should have handled it properly
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05:33.08Scott0_/dev/sda1              95G   12G   78G  14% /
05:33.14koollmanScott0_: dropped innodb tables may not be effectively freeing space on disk
05:33.20Scott0_which is why I expected it to be ok
05:33.44koollmanScott0_: /var/lib/ibdata1 is huge ?
05:33.45Scott0_koollman: it was innodbfilepertable and the files for the tables are gone
05:33.54koollmanerr, /var/lib/mysql/ibdata1 I meant
05:34.02koollmanah. so it should be ok
05:34.04Scott0_each table has its own file
05:34.06Scott0_yeah
05:34.09Scott0_that was my thought
05:34.11Rusty1you did fsck it or not?
05:34.28Scott0_gparted does fsck prior to running resize2fs and it succeeded
05:34.30Scott0_no errors
05:34.45Scott0_I can run it again from debian if that helps
05:34.48koollmanScott0_: lsof | grep deleted
05:34.53Scott0_did that already
05:34.56Scott0_no results
05:35.16Scott0_nevermind I misspoke
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05:35.23Scott0_mnaybe I didn't use the command properly
05:35.28koollmanScott0_: ext2/3/4 system ? root reserved space can be rather big, too
05:35.36Scott0_there are files listed by lsof
05:35.39Rusty1try fsck from other than gparted
05:35.56Scott0_how do I clear the deleted files?
05:36.11koollmanScott0_: close the program keeping them open
05:36.12Scott0_there are 5 mysqld files
05:36.25Scott0_odd shuttiong down should have accomplished that
05:36.45koollmanyes. may be a long shutdown because there are a lot of i/o going on
05:36.54Scott0_it wasnt
05:37.05Scott0_I shut down the mysql service and now those files don't show
05:37.14Scott0_I doub tthat was the problem
05:37.17chastisedstew I'm curious to know why those sources.list entries were missing initially.
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05:37.25Scott0_I believe its EXT3 for whoever asked
05:37.32Scott0_and ill try running fsck
05:37.39somiajchastised: if you didn't have an internet connenction during the install they aren't added.
05:38.03chastisedsomiaj, hmmm no I had a connection.
05:38.23somiajwell maybe you didn't select a mirror or changed something along the way. Either way it is working now.
05:38.25Scott0_yeah.. can't check the filesystem if its in use
05:38.27Scott0_lol
05:38.37Scott0_isn't there a way to force a fsck on boot??>
05:39.00Shadow_7by changing ftab and other things
05:39.05chastisedok thanks somiaj
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05:39.11somiajScott0_: aren't you booted up off a live image? You can use tune2fs and set the flag to check on mount
05:39.17Scott0_not anymore
05:39.23Scott0_im actually booted from debian at the moment
05:39.42Scott0_I was on the livecd gparted when I was trying to resize
05:39.46Shadow_7most times it's easy / safer to boot another install on another medium
05:39.46koollmanScott0_: tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep ^Reserved ,  to see how many blocks are reserved. -m 1 to adjust to 1% (read the man before that)
05:40.12Scott0_Reserved block count:     1254719
05:40.58Scott0_not sure how to translate that to GB
05:40.59Scott0_:P
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05:41.14Scott0_block size is 4096
05:41.44Scott0_that's about 5GB right?
05:41.45Shadow_7I'd think *4 = K value
05:41.56Scott0_so that should be fine
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05:42.58koollmanright. but it means you can free up to 5GB without doing anything other than setting a parameter. might help if disk space is needed :)
05:44.11Scott0_so what's happening and what's the best way to fix it?
05:44.48Scott0_did I not wait long enough before trying to resize the partition after deleteing files?
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05:58.33Scott0_same error on resize2fs on new gparted livecd
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05:59.09Scott0_but the weird parts is the new size is smaller than the minimum
05:59.28Scott0_but 18432000K is not smaller than 8323636
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06:05.03Scott0_thers the code for it http://lists.openwall.net/linux-ext4/2009/05/18/24
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06:05.40Scott0_problem is they are comparing differing units
06:06.10Scott0_I may resize with the -AM flag to do the minimum and the  grow it a bit
06:07.00Shadow_7so many better filesystems these days
06:07.12Scott0_than ext4 or ext3?
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06:07.21Shadow_7zfs btrfs ...
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06:07.37Scott0_yeah not using zfs on debian
06:07.52Shadow_7xfs too
06:08.00Scott0_and I don't think that's an option when installing debian
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06:08.28Shadow_7depends on how you do the install.  and doesn't matter much installer wise, rsync can migrate it after the fact
06:08.45Scott0_migrating with rsync sounds like an absolutel mess
06:08.56Shadow_7It's more like cloning
06:09.07Scott0_when files are in use?
06:09.20Shadow_7no, boot a live cd/dvd and then rsync
06:09.22Scott0_or you mean from a livecd from one disk to another
06:09.25Scott0_oh weird
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06:10.04Shadow_7basically creating a bootable snapshot / backup
06:10.29Shadow_7most of my installs are < 12GB, so SDHC cards and readers go a long way for me
06:10.54Shadow_7Basically 16GB HDD for < $10 USD
06:11.57Shadow_7the targus readers I tend to get come with a little 18" extension cable which is more useful than the reader
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06:20.06Scott0_eh im just gonna force the resize
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06:20.45Shadow_7Scott0_: basically cd /mnt/source/ && rsync -aRXv ./* /mnt/destination
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06:21.57Shadow_7you can do it on a live system (in theory), but there's a big ugly --exclude statement for that.
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06:23.12Shadow_7beyond that it's just a matter of /etc/fstab having the right location information and a bootloader that points at it
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06:24.27Scott0_eh it won't even accept a forced
06:24.37Scott0_I guess its time to upgrade my debian
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06:26.15Jan\How do I get the update iceweasel ? I just installed and updated packages iceweasel still at version 38
06:26.15Scott0_:( I just want to resize my VM
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06:29.26decciHow to get rid of this error: Alternatively, you may set the environment variables LIBDCSUPT_STATIC_CFLAGS and LIBDCSUPT_STATIC_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
06:29.50decciI am trying to build .DEB package and trying to run debian/rules binary
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06:30.42paperdsounds like you should set those environment variables
06:31.38deccipaperd: what is the correct way look like
06:32.08deccipaperd: export LIBDCSUPT_STATIC_CFLAGS="$(pkg-config ???)"
06:34.18deccipaperd: libdcsupt-static is the package which is missing..export LIBDCSUPT_STATIC_CFLAGS="$(pkg-config --cflags libdcsupt-static)
06:34.31deccipaperd: does it look ok?
06:34.41deccipaperd: I am not sure how to get rid of this package
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06:38.17decciI am not able to get correct parameter to override it
06:38.41simonlnumight need to add a --static somwhere too
06:38.51simonlnusomewhere*
06:39.25simonlnucheck with printenv to see if it's set properly
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06:43.27paperdI have no idea about how to set the var, I was just stating the obvious.
06:43.56paperdif I had some idea, I would've already packaged ufraw in the newest version
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06:46.49r0xtedyor *.xlsx
06:46.50r0xtedy?
06:47.06r0xtedyits pretty stupid when an archive manager opens xls or doc files
06:47.18r0xtedyby default
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07:02.15paperdr0xtedy: install libreoffice, which will handle those file types, then change your mime type association
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07:07.40jinppkis there an issue happening now with sid repos? im getting hash sum mismatch on my isp mirror and the offical repo
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07:48.01r0xtedypaperd: how can I change mime type asociation?
07:48.09r0xtedyfor like bunch of files?
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07:49.41r0xtedyby the way I have the libreoffice 5
07:49.46r0xtedyrnning on the machine
07:52.15r0xtedyokay, I already did everything yea!
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08:00.09mikelai've got a new asus zenbook with a nvidia gforce 940M
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08:00.42mikelalspci gives me 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1347 (rev a2)
08:00.52mikelaand 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1347 (rev a2)
08:01.33mikelanvidia-detect says No NVIDIA GPU detected and installing nvidia-driver causes xorg to crash
08:01.35korhojoaprobably wanna give some flags to lspci
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08:02.04korhojoa-tvvv ?
08:02.52mikelakorhojoa: ?
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08:05.50korhojoaput it in pastebin
08:06.07korhojoahttp://paste.debian.net/
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08:08.26paperdr0xtedy: changing your mime type with a gui depends on your desktop
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08:40.13paule32my sound is on speaker
08:40.35paule32but i want it on headphone
08:40.45paule32there is no sound
08:40.54paule32how can i enable it?
08:41.04paule32to listen and speak
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08:45.56LopeI think one of my VM's recently ran out of disk space. Is there any way I can check if that happened. If a debian machine runs out of disk space is it possible that random files in /tmp might be truncated? I seem to have files in /tmp missing. I came to find my VM had only 18MB free and the process (which had a process manager to restart it) was not running and neither was the process manager. I was piping all of it into a file in /tmp.
08:46.13troyz0nehello comerades
08:47.13troyz0nei am running debian jessie with xfce4 DE on dell latitude e5450 (hybrid graphics - intel HD 5500 and nVIDIA GM 840)
08:47.36troyz0nelooks good excepts for driver errors as follows: i801_smbus 0000:00:1f.3: Failed to enable SMBus PCI device (-16)
08:48.05troyz0neand assistance or pointer to solve this issue will be very much apppreciated
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09:06.04LopeCan anyone recommend tools for monitoring a server's disk space and CPU usage and emailing me if there's trouble?
09:06.39GnikLlortzabbix
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09:21.16SirLagzLope: or cacti
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09:21.35SirLagzLope: or libreNMS, or Nagios, or Opsview
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09:21.55LopeSirLagz: which one is the lightest, these are small 2GB VM's ?
09:22.08SirLagzLope: define lightest? Least RAM usage?
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09:22.23SirLagzLope: do you need historical data?
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09:23.02SirLagzLope: you could DIY with a couple of simple cron jobs too
09:23.33cheakone1 know if http://trac.wildfiregames.com/attachment/ticket/715/0ad-spidermonkey-respect-CHOST.patch  this will work on Debian?
09:23.40cheakoIt is not working.
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09:23.52LopeSirLagz: I guess light generally, CPU, RAM etc. Historical data would be nice, but I'm trying to avoid running out of disk space, not use it up faster :) so I'd prefer to log resource usage elsewhere.
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09:24.23cheakohttp://pastebin.com/QERLJzy2
09:24.25SirLagzLope: how many servers are you monitoring2~
09:24.27SirLagz?
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09:29.28LopeSirLagz: at the moment about 10
09:29.37LopeWell, not monitoring yet, but clearly need to monitor :)
09:29.55LopeAnd that number is sure to grow.
09:30.12SirLagzLope: personally I'd lean towards Zabbix as configuring it is easy
09:30.32SirLagzLope: Cacti and Nagios aren't as easy to configure as Zabbix
09:31.02LopeSirLagz: thanks for the recommendation.I might also roll my own. It really just involves running 2 commands on an interval and then sending the data somewhere every minute etc.
09:31.21SirLagzLope: alternatively you could look at something like 'monit' on every server
09:31.38SirLagzor maybe monit can do remote commands too? I forget
09:31.58LopeWhen I say commands, I just mean df -m and ps whatever for CPU.
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09:32.25Lopejvz enter 6
09:32.30Lopeshizer
09:32.52SirLagzwha
09:33.07Lopepesky clipboard
09:33.10SirLagzlol
09:33.13pyfaceon a previous installation,i encrypted my home folder, e.g. /home/myusername. now ive got that hard drive as an external at the mo. im trying to access the data.. of course in that dir its just showing "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"
09:33.18pyfacehow the funk do i acess that?
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09:43.14Lady_AleenaHello. What is the standard amount of time to wait to reask a question I asked elsewhere to here?
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09:47.11skribblezatchaI would just ask it again Lady_Aleena .
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09:48.21Lady_AleenaI asked in #kde first, but whenever I go to KMail's Settings -> Appearance I get Executable: kmail PID: 26415 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 14-November-15 04:07:49 AM Why? I keep reporting the bug every time I try to alter the appearance of KMail, but so far, no update has fixed the problem.
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09:51.25cheakosetting these vars fixed it.
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09:56.27skribblezatchaAre you sing kde5 Lady_Aleena ?
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09:57.06skribblezatchaAlso are you trying to use a gtk theme or just change its appearance using a kde theme?
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09:58.27Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, um... I open KMail, click Settings, click Configure KMail, then click Appearance and BAM! it crashes.
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09:58.46Shadow_7Lady_Aleena: you might try creating another user and setting up Kmail on that user.  If that solves the issue, then your settings are likely the cause.  Still a bug, but one step closer to what the bug is.
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09:59.06Lady_AleenaKDE 4.14.2
09:59.07skribblezatchaIs that using Plasma5 Lady_Aleena ?
09:59.21Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, where do I find that out?
10:00.02skribblezatchaIf you are using kde 4.14.2 you shouldn't be..you are still using plamsa4 so you should be in good shape. I don't know what the deal is with that.
10:00.13Lady_AleenaShadow_7, I don't know how to do that. I can't even change my 1 account's name.
10:00.21skribblezatchaIts kind of why I have been staying away from KDE for a while, it hasn't been real stable lately.
10:00.55Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, I thought Debian people vetted everything before allowing it to be installed on any Debian system.
10:01.22Shadow_7Lady_Aleena: adduser && su - user... kmail isn't the only mail application so you try others.  sylpheed, icedove, ... ...
10:01.30skribblezatchaThey do Lady_Aleena , and that KDE version is "stable" or atleast as stable as its going to get..but it still happens.
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10:01.59skribblezatchaIs KDE your default DE Lady_Aleena ?
10:02.02Lady_AleenaI actually want to get away from KMail, but I can't decide which email client to use, and then having to figure out how to import my email to the new client.
10:02.11Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, it is my ONLY DE.
10:02.16Shadow_7Lady_Aleena: the vetting system is based on age and quantity of bug reports afaik.  Some things are just broken in ALL versions of it.
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10:03.26Lady_AleenaI was lured into KDE before I installed Debian believing my source when I was told KDE was the best DE ever.
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10:04.18Shadow_7KDE has it's perks.  If you have blessed hardware and versioning.  But it's always been a bit bleeding edge and experimental if you're less than blessed.
10:04.23Lady_AleenaI went from Windows XP SP3 to Debian + KDE, culture shock doesn't cover the reaction I had.
10:04.46skribblezatchaOk Lady_Aleena , thanks.
10:04.52Lady_AleenaShadow_7, blessed hardware?
10:05.00Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, thanks for what?
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10:05.28Shadow_7kde is very GPU needy.  If you don't have a well supported GPU, it can be less than a joyous experience.
10:05.32skribblezatchaKDE is nice, its a bit heavy though and resource intensive although if you have the hardware you are in good shape. Its just that sometimes KDE isn't always stable.
10:06.08skribblezatchaI started out using KDE on version 4.9.3 I think and it was stable, ever since it has had its little issues, I think even then it had a few..just nothing real major.
10:06.10Lady_AleenaKDE is a pita most of the time.
10:06.34Shadow_7I started on SuSE 6.1 with KDE and it was nice.  Even nicer when I got off dialup and could connect to the internet in linux.
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10:06.43skribblezatchaI switched to Cinnamon later on, and then Xfce..and have been on Xfce ever since. I find it the most complete and comprehensive DE out there, its just designed with common sense in mind.
10:07.10skribblezatchaI agree Lady_Aleena . You should check out Xfce. You can do a lot with it and make it look very nice too.
10:07.14Shadow_7But every wm/de other than KDE that I've tried, has been multiple times FASTER than KDE imo.  And more stable.
10:07.30Lady_AleenaI have KMail crashing whenever I try to configure its appearance; whenever I get a system message box, the volume of my computer goes to 100% for reasons I can't figure out; and I want to change my user name, but it takes too much voodoo.
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10:07.56Shadow_7And if you ever go from broadband back to dialup, staying up to date is best done without kde installed.
10:08.17Lady_AleenaShadow_7, that would be the day I give up the internet.
10:09.18skribblezatchaLady_Aleena, why not try another DE?
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10:10.00skribblezatchaBrb.
10:10.03Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, I'd need to go scorched earth for that.
10:10.24Shadow_7I settled on IceWM for a while as it was the one that I could make most look like windows.  If only to get others from stop staring at what was on my screen.  And it is pretty light weight.
10:10.49Shadow_7If I set up others machines that tends to be XFCE or MATE.
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10:11.38Lady_AleenaOne other thing, I still haven't figured out the instructions for getting my Start key back. (It is currently assigned to something called meta.)
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10:12.30Shadow_7These days I've settled on cwm which is a bsd based wm with a portable version.  All the functionality of a traditional wm via hotkey and mouse combos.  But all the simplicity and speed of a console.
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10:15.36skribblezatchaWhat do you mean Lady_Aleena ?
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10:15.59Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, which item?
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10:16.11skribblezatchaI need to go scorched earth for that?
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10:16.24Marco__Hi
10:16.39Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, meaning I back up all the files in Documents, Music, Pictures, etc and wipe my drive and start over.
10:16.48skribblezatchaI can show you how to install a new DE as well as how to get it how you want it and its easy and doesn't take a lot of time at all.
10:17.09skribblezatchaNo, you could just install a new DE to that same install Lady_Aleena ..one of the beauties of linux. :)
10:17.11Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, not this morning. It is after 5am, and I need to get away from the computer.
10:17.17Marco__Assuming I have done apt-source vlc, and done some modifications (debian/rules, a couple changed files) and now want to recompile this as a debian package using dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc, how do I change the version number?
10:17.34skribblezatchaOkie dokes Lady_Aleena , well if you see me around just ask. I'm usually somewhere.
10:17.46rabbitea1Lady_Aleena: you are addicted :)
10:17.47skribblezatchaWant to view a quick screenshot of how I have Xfce over here?
10:17.49Lady_Aleenaskribblezatcha, okeydokey...see you around.
10:18.00Lady_Aleenarabbitea1, no really?!
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10:18.01skribblezatchaOk Lady_Aleena , and you have a good rest of your day.
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10:18.02rabbitea1Lady_Aleena: have a good break
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10:55.22Marco__Assuming I have done apt-source vlc, and done some modifications (debian/rules, a couple changed files) and now want to recompile this as a debian package using dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc, how do I change the version number?
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10:59.05babilenMarco__: You want to edit debian/changelog and create a new entry there. This is being automated to a certain degree by the "dch" tool, which you can run with "dch -l+marco" (or any other identifier). I'd also add yourself to debian/control as Uploader
10:59.50Marco__Ah, thanks
11:00.57babilenThe "-l" adds a "local" suffix to the version number and the + ensures that it sorts higher.
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11:14.25ewewHello. Is there a disscusion about disabling partitioning option everything on one partition ?
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11:15.33ewewSome people think having multiple partitions as obsolete.:P
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11:16.06Shadow_7_I do debootstrap installs as single partitions.
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11:18.32Shadow_7_last time I used the installer (it's been years) I could do it that way too.  advanced setup and other non-intuitive things
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11:19.20Stummiewew, I don't get it. Why should this option be disabled?
11:19.47rabbitea1Shadow_7_: the question isn't perfect
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11:20.24ewewFor security reason it is not good idea and if you want to recover something you must go to live cd and. BUt that is offtopic here.:-(
11:20.28rabbitea1Shadow_7_: probably don't start with youself 'I' and say what you see instead
11:21.18rabbitea1ewew: just have to assume 'I' missed something
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12:04.51paule32<PROTECTED>
12:04.52paule32<paule32> i want a custom helper, that search website in database
12:04.52paule32<paule32> if it blocked, then return "ERR"
12:04.52paule32<paule32> else "OK"
12:04.52paule32<paule32> here the script:
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12:46.53intoreHi everybody, i wrote a few days ago about a problem using xrandr and it has benn resolved thanks to somiaj. Now i have another question.  I have an error trying to run xrandr to use three monitor: laptop monitor and to extaernal monitor, one using HDMI port and another one using VGA port. The command is xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1024x768 --left-of LVDS --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS and the error message is xrandr: cannot find
12:46.54intorecrtc for output VGA-0. HDMI monitor is the one that runs. Do you have ideas?
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12:50.45krasimirI have setup exim as a mta agent on a server used for a shared hosting only to send the email for all website contact forms.  exim is rate limited and the server never send more than 50-100 emails per day
12:51.34krasimirrecently google has been blocking the ip of the server with their generic bulk sending bullshit message
12:51.48krasimirhow do you guys deal with this ?
12:52.14krasimirI have sent a request to google and it seems fine now , but I am sure this will happen again.
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12:53.27ewewkrasimir Can it be by users putting the email in SPAM folder of google ?
12:54.39krasimircould be , since some of the contact form submissions are from indian companies offering services
12:54.51p8mkrasimir: ensuring email delivery is difficult, especially if you're sending mail that people may mark as spam
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12:55.28krasimirso how do you deal with this issue ?
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12:55.48ewewkrasimir It maybe by mail scan sw that assumes its spam.
12:55.54krasimironly google are rejecting the emails , all other mail servers work ok
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12:56.33ewewkrasimir Google is not type of provider that does not care about custommers.
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12:56.47ewewkrasimir People are evil.
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12:57.05p8mkrasimir: Make sure all commercial emails have gmail compatible links to remove them from the list
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12:57.22p8mEnable spf and dkim
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12:58.10ewewkrasimir Or try to randomly delay send mails and send them separatly in time.
12:58.15p8mwhenever I setup an email server I have several gmail accounts that I send emails to from the new server. From those gmail accounts I mark those emails as not-spam and priority
12:59.16p8mBut if people are marking your emails as spam and you don't tell gmail how to automatically remove them from the list, your server will be marked as a spammer again
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13:00.55ewewPeople just dont want to be annoyed by ad or unsolicited mail.
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13:02.49krasimirthis is not spam , these are contact forms on websites for example domain.com and the contact form sends to support@domain.com  - domain.com is using the the legacy gmail service where you can receive email to a custom domain
13:03.43krasimirso makes no sense to have unsubscribe link ,  these are emails sent from a website to the actual website owner
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13:05.41p8mkrasimir: If it's a new ip/domain it could be that gmail doesn't trust it. spi/dkim and marking emails as not-spam and priority will build some trust
13:06.14ewewor dont send to gmail and done
13:06.23p8mIf users are marking your mail as spam and you don't have an unsubscribe link gmail will starting sending mail to spam
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13:07.32krasimirgood advises , how do I set random delays in exim , do you know ?
13:08.35ewewkrasimir In website that initiates mail delivery.
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13:10.36jellykrasimir: set up a feedback loop with gmail, so you can get notified of which specific messages are reported as spam and deal with your customers that are sending those
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13:10.58jellykrasimir: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6254652?hl=en
13:11.39krasimirjelly : thanks
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13:42.33billkill2Hi. I own an old mid-2012 macbook pro and I want to install debian 8 on it. I should download the amd64 image, correct?
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13:53.02xandbillkill2: yes
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13:54.32billkill2xand: Do you think it is illogical to install debian on a macbook pro?
13:54.41xandnope
13:54.43billkill2I use homebrew but it isn't as nice as apt-get
13:54.58billkill2xand: Ok, thank you :D
13:55.12xandyou could try it in a VM though if you're not familiar with it
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13:56.51billkill2xand: I am not too familiar but I want to have the native experience and possibility of breaking things. I like to learn by doing and breaking then fixing.
13:57.10billkill2I was given this mac by my brother as he is a huge windows gamer - so I just want to see if I can load it up :D
13:57.40ewewWhy use restricted hw ?
13:59.02billkill2ewew: See that's the thing
13:59.07billkill2I want to build my own desktop
13:59.11billkill2But I don't "need" it now
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13:59.16billkill2My old desktop died and it was debian 8
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14:04.48intoreHi everybody, i wrote a few days ago about a problem using xrandr and it has benn resolved thanks to somiaj. Now i have another question.  I have an error trying to run xrandr to use three monitor: laptop monitor and to extaernal monitor, one using HDMI port and another one using VGA port. The command is xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1024x768 --left-of LVDS --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS and the error message is xrandr: cannot find
14:04.49intorecrtc for output VGA-0. HDMI monitor is the one that runs. Do you have ideas?
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14:14.20jessequinnWhere on the debian site can i find the latest package updates list for jessie?
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14:15.59zykotick9jessequinn: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages perhaps?  I'm not sure what you are asking for however...
14:16.10jessequinnhttps://packages.debian.org/jessie-updates/ is not what im looking for
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14:20.01maulwurf28hello
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14:20.55maulwurf28we're a company with 50-80 employees and wanted to migrate our servers from windows to debian.  1- is it possible?  2- can we create a domain controller with debian?
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14:23.08jabrislawhi
14:23.24jabrislawwhat's default dm on debian 8 with xfce?
14:23.37jabrislawhow to figure out what dm am I using?
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14:24.25ewewjabrislaw "/join xfce"
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14:24.58ewewjabrislaw "/join #xfce" this the right command.
14:25.03jabrislawyeah, a typo
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14:26.32jpinxjabrislaw: dpkg -l | grep dm
14:26.33OnkelTemHi. How to install latest stable apache on Debian 7?
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14:27.11jabrislawlibghtdm
14:27.28jabrislawlightdm8
14:27.33jabrislawdamnit
14:27.39morf:)
14:27.41ewewlightdm
14:27.50jpinxjabrislaw: dammitdm ?  ;)
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14:28.40jabrislawthx, now I need to find out how to disable login prompts in lightdm
14:28.44jabrislawi guess
14:29.33jpinxjabrislaw: there is one called nodm iirc
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14:29.53jpinx!dpkg dm
14:29.53dpkgDM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session.  <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, login.app, <slim> and <lightdm> are all examples of display managers.  Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM.  Or Debian Maintainer: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer .  For the deb-multimedia repository, ask me about <dmm>.
14:30.18jpinxjabrislaw: there ya go...
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14:33.03jabrislawnot sure if I'd better use nodm or fix lightdm
14:33.17jabrislawfound this: http://superuser.com/questions/356316/how-do-i-disable-the-login-screen-on-xfce
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14:57.49RudyValenciaHow do I encrypt a Western DIgital My Cloud drive running clean (not altered by WD) Debian?
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14:59.42jabrislawhey
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15:00.23jabrislawwhat's the default screensaver name for debian 8 xfce?
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15:05.41SynrGscreensavers are a bad idea. bad for the environment. uselessly use up CPU when most of the time they're not being looked at
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15:06.48SynrGRudyValencia: that being said, xfce4-session Recommends: xscreensaver
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15:07.21RudyValenciaI didn't ask
15:07.32RudyValenciaI think you meant jabrislaw
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15:11.09SynrGyes
15:11.10SynrGsorry
15:11.13SynrGjabrislaw: ^^
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15:13.26Drugoyes, xfce which comes with tasksel has xscreensaver
15:13.59jabrislawnope
15:14.04jabrislawnot xscreensaver
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15:14.37jabrislawfailed to find 'screensaver' package
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15:14.44jabrislawxscreensaver I mean
15:15.20Drugodpkg -l | grep screensaver
15:15.20dpkgNo packages found matching | grep screensaver
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15:15.51Drugoii  xscreensaver                           5.30-1+b1
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15:17.10jabrislawDrugo: weird, there is ii xscreensaver
15:17.30jabrislawbut apt remove xscreensaver fails
15:18.49jabrislawnvm
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15:19.14jabrislawtyped 'apt remove xscreeensaver ' instead :(
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15:48.48venaphhello everyone, what is the difference between 'fsck.ext4 /path/to/fs.img' and 'fsck -b magic_number /dev/xyz' ?
15:48.52magpiehey security wise which one is better, active root account + no sudoers +  me as user ; or disable root + me as user+sudo?
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15:50.38zykotick9magpie: on systems with multiple admin, sudo is probably better.  If you are the only admin, then it's probably more preference.  Personally, I'm not a fan of sudo... but YMMV.
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15:53.58magpiezykotick9, Ok I am the only one using this laptop it has FDE too :)
15:53.58magpiebut I was just worried if using root is bad idea
15:53.58magpiebut now I know it is not
15:53.58magpiethanks
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15:54.51NoirLesssomeone got problem, when HDD sometimes downs its speed and increase later? It hurts sometimes, cuz causes fps drops (when it happens in games), or audio/video artifacts
15:56.11NoirLessits NOT hdds problem, cuz had no problems when i was on windows partition
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16:11.30somiajintore: look at xrandr -q, or paste the output of that to paste.debian.net.
16:12.10morfstew_: i just figure it out... of course i overlooked important thing because i was tired ( d-i passwd/user-password actualpassword ... vs d-i passwd/user-password password actualpassword ) :((
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16:17.16intorehi somiaj this is xrandr -q output http://paste.debian.net/332671/
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16:17.57somiajseems like paste.debian.net is down right now.
16:18.15morfsame here
16:19.00intoresame here
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16:20.29intoresomiaj, pastebin?
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16:30.31freaky[t]is there any good windows ssh client besides putty and mobaxterm? maybe something like mobaxterm where i also have something like a sftp possibility? where i can just click a file, edit in locally and then save it and automatically uplaod it to the server again.
16:30.32freaky[t]?
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16:35.09markybobfreaky[t], i've resulted to using Google's secure shell
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16:36.27ghormoonfreaky[t]: yuo can try using ssh and simmilar tools from cygwin or mingw afaik. or maybe winscp is what you want for the files?
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16:36.52intoresomiaj, this on pastebin http://pastebin.com/x2TSQszp
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16:40.40woshtywhat graphical tools can I use in jessie to rip an audio cd to opus that lets me set encoding parameters?
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16:44.45Brigowoshty,  apt-cache search rip audio cd, there is plenty of them.
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16:45.08woshtyBrigo: name one
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16:45.44woshtyBrigo: ripperx, no opus, grip disappeared, sound juicer no parameter settings, other stuff seems to be command line
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16:46.09Brigowoshty, i don't know i have never used such thing :)
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16:50.33woshtyBrigo: haven't either for a few years :) asunder should work, or back to abcde
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16:57.51Brigowoshty, good luck :)
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17:07.47juliusafter running fdisk on a usb stick, writing the changes and running partprobe i got: Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
17:07.59juliusits a 8gb usb stick
17:08.14juliuswhats the right value, and how do i tell it linux or change the usb stick?
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17:16.54Dan39julius: its probably safe to use 512 either way
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17:17.23Dan39its weird how it works
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17:20.42juliusi probably fucked it up while copying a cd iso onto it with: cp image.iso /dev/sdb
17:21.03juliusbut why on gods earth would it change "basic" information on it
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17:22.56markybobdd if=<file> of=<device> bs=4M; sync   is probably your best bet
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17:23.47xormor_markybob, what does "bs" stand for there?
17:24.03juliusblocksize
17:24.25juliusmarkybob, i already installed debian
17:24.36juliuswill that erase the error?
17:24.37markybobxormor_, read and write up bytes at a time
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17:26.24jellyjulius: that is actually the recommended way to write an iso image to a stick.  reformatting will probably clear it up.
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17:26.49juliusi already reformatted
17:26.56Dan39once in a while wonky stuff will happen on a stick that needs lower level formatting
17:26.56juliuskilling all partitions and creating a new fresh one
17:27.00Dan39lemme find the wiki article on it...
17:27.20juliusbut gparted tells me that there are more partitions on it, fdisk says its just 1
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17:31.42Dan39cant find the article i read in past :|
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17:34.27Dan39julius: found the info :D
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17:35.32Dan39completely wipe the partition table first looks to be the solution
17:35.45Dan39with: dd count=1 bs=512 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx && sync
17:35.55jokoon_I've been suggested to add jessie-backports to add a realtek driver
17:36.10jokoon_because the default one doesn't work
17:36.13markybobdon't do that
17:36.25markybobbs=4M is much more reasonable
17:36.41juliusDan39, have to clear something else first...will do it then
17:36.42jokoon_for rtl8192EE, but I don't know which line I should put in my sources.list, should I add non free or not ?
17:37.00freaky[t]markybob but that's integrated into chrome. i dont like that.  ghormoon thanks i found bitvise ssh client
17:37.36Dan39then you can use parted mklabel or whatever to make new partition table
17:38.05markybobjokoon_, yes, firmware-realtek for rtl8192ee is in non-free
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17:38.28markybobfreaky[t], what you said makes no sense. what does chrome have to do with dd?
17:38.30jokoon_markybob: so is this line correct ? deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free
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17:38.42jokoon_markybob: or should I remove contrib /
17:38.45jokoon_?
17:38.45Dan39julius: you actually could redo the partition table whil keeping the data, if you line up the new partitions to the exact same sectors
17:38.48Dan39ive done it before
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17:39.47markybobjokoon_, it's right. leave contrib just to make things easier later if you want a package in it. doesn't hurt
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17:41.20markybobjokoon_, if you want to use geo mirrors use deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
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17:44.03zykotick9markybob: does backports contain contrib & non-free packages?
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17:44.28markybobzykotick9, yes
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17:44.38zykotick9markybob: interesting, thanks.
17:44.48markybobzykotick9, https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
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17:56.21jokoon_how do I add myself to the sudoers
17:57.40Dan39either add yourself directly to the file, or add yourself to the sudo group
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17:57.58Dan39i prefer adding to the group
17:58.03Dan39if its setup...
17:58.08jokoon_but will it be permanent?
17:58.12Dan39yes
17:58.30Dan39gpasswd -a user sudo
17:58.32jokoon_so I just do adduser mylogin sudo ?
17:58.52Dan39adduser creates new system users
17:59.05Dan39gpasswd is for group management stuff
17:59.06markybob!visudo
17:59.06dpkgwell, visudo is how you add users to your /etc/sudoers file.  'man visudo' for details, and also ask me about <sudoers>, or respects $EDITOR while doing sanity checking (prevents *some* critical commits of broken sudoers).
17:59.15markybob!sudoers
17:59.15dpkgFrom Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, you can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for <sudo> by adding yourself to the "sudo" group: "adduser your_username sudo".  See the man pages indicated by "apropos sudo" for more information.
17:59.52Dan39o maybe that does work... new to me, i wouldnt recommend it tho, im guessing its a debian utility
18:00.02jokoon_requires logout
18:00.05Dan39why use a debian specific utility when you can learn the universal linux way
18:00.07Dan39yea
18:00.19Dan39or su
18:00.21markybobvisudo is not debian. http://www.sudo.ws/man/1.8.14/visudo.man.html
18:00.25Dan39not visudo
18:00.33Dan39adduser username sudo
18:00.37jokoon_does locking the screen do a logout ?
18:00.45markybobjokoon_, no
18:00.46Dan39i dont think so
18:00.59jokoon_how do I logout without restarting debian?
18:01.07Dan39logout...
18:01.16Dan39isnt there a logout button somewhere?
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18:01.42jokoon_works now
18:01.44jokoon_ty
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18:02.27Dan39wow i am not a fan at all of that usage
18:02.47markybobno one is
18:02.49jokoon_qhy
18:02.49jokoon_why
18:03.00Dan39im talking about "adduser username sudo"
18:03.10markybobright. thus visudo
18:03.16Dan39>_<
18:03.20Dan39you are missing the point completely
18:03.35Dan39adduser newusername
18:03.46Dan39is normal usage of adduser
18:04.09markybobyes...
18:04.12jellyDan39: mostly because at the time adduser was created in Debian, usermod did not have -a -G
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18:04.45Dan39but it does now :P
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18:05.02jellyand adduser user extragroup, exists too.
18:05.03benbrox11vnc just had a new release
18:05.07benbrohttps://github.com/LibVNC/x11vnc/releases
18:05.15benbrowhere can I find the debian package maintainers so they can use the new x11vnc release?
18:05.32Dan39jelly: thats how it is being used in this case afaik
18:06.10jellybenbro: check the bug tracking service, http://bugs.debian.org/x11vnc and file a Severity: wishlist bug if there isn't one already
18:06.10jokoon_by default iceweasel doesn't select the address text in the address bar when you click on it
18:06.15Dan39i just think the syntax like that is a bad idea
18:06.18Dan39just my opinion
18:06.18markybobbenbro, guarantee you they know about it. however, their email is on http://packages.debian.org/x11vnc
18:06.20jokoon_whats the setting to changge this ?
18:06.53benbrojelly, markybob: it was released few mintues ago. not sure they know about it :)
18:07.16jellybenbro: are you affiliated with upstream?
18:07.59benbrojelly: no. I'm not a developer
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18:09.01jellybenbro: the homepage does not show 0.9.14 as a release yet.  http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/#downloading
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18:09.47benbrojelly: I don't think the homepage is maintied.
18:09.53benbrojelly: development is on github
18:10.01benbrojelly: https://github.com/LibVNC/x11vnc/issues/10#issuecomment-156727771
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18:11.19markybobbenbro, oh...you want ubuntu maintainers aware...
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18:11.50jellybenbro: how can debian maintainers verify the github page is actually where development goes on now?
18:12.30jellythe git tree does not seem to have a branch or tag for 0.9.14
18:12.31venaphhello everyone, I just tried fsck on the image file of my partition, and it still shows an empty folder (lost+found). I applied fsck with and without backup superblock numbers. what else can I do?
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18:13.17benbromarkybob: probably both
18:13.38benbrojelly: what's this? https://github.com/LibVNC/x11vnc/releases
18:13.44benbrohttps://github.com/LibVNC/x11vnc/releases/tag/0.9.14
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18:15.33jellybenbro: I don't know what it is.  It would be best if the homepage pointed out where development goes now and who the active developers are.  Failing that, when you're writing your bug report, make sure to mention that.
18:16.53benbrojelly: I don't think I'll write the bug report. I'm overwelmed by this page :)
18:16.54benbrohttps://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
18:17.12jellythat's the right way to contact the maintainers.
18:17.38benbroI guess I'll just wait and cross my fingers
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18:18.07jellyit's basically a plain text mail formatted in certain way.  If you want them to know sooner, you want to file such a bug report
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18:20.35Marco__I have a TV stick with an IR remote reciever
18:20.44Marco__unfortunately it is treated as a keyboard by linux
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18:24.18benbrojelly: sent the mail
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18:27.23[alyssa]I don't know if this a known bug, but:
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18:28.55[alyssa]When installing Debian from the netinst image with UEFI boot enabled, Debian correctly installs the GRUB bootloader to the ESP. However, it installs it to /EFI/debian/grubx64.efi, which on my machine anyway rendered the disk unbootable. The patch was to rename to file to /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI, which let GRUB boot and function correctly.
18:29.11[alyssa]Probably a known issue but I thought I'd mention it hee in the off change it's not
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18:30.37somiajI belive that is known and I dont' think it is considered a bug but a workaround to deal with the efi bootloader on the mac you are using. The efi boot loader is supose to be able to read from multiple .efi files
18:30.39Brigo[alyssa], this partition should be vfat witch should be case insensible.
18:31.02[alyssa]Brigo: alright, well, the issue with grubx64 vs bootx64 seemed to still matter
18:31.06[alyssa]idk if boot vs debian mattered
18:31.23Brigo[alyssa], yes, sorry, i didn't see that :)
18:31.29[alyssa]somiaj: lolk, so it's just an Apple being irritating issue? :p
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18:32.05Brigoi think apple don't use vfat in ESP.
18:32.19somiaj[alyssa]: I belive that is the state of it. efi boot is supose to be able to read from multiple .efi files so you can use it to dual boot. So unsure if the this is just going to be a workaround for the apples that require it to be a very specifcially named file or not.
18:32.44somiajthough it could also be a wishlist bug to ask grub to detect or have the option to overwrite the file for you.
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18:33.11[alyssa]somiaj: It's possible it already did that; I happened to be installing with a really esoteric layout that would've made detection impossible.
18:33.43somiaj[alyssa]: this is a common issue. I belive the state of things is on the older mac hardware you have to manually move the file.
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18:33.57somiajbut I'm not positive on this. I just know that you are not alone with having to do this.
18:34.03[alyssa]mk
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18:34.35jellybenbro: thanks
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18:35.19freaky[t]markybob_ isnt it a plugin for chrome?
18:35.29freaky[t]anyway i installed putty again and am using key authentication now
18:35.45jellybenbro: and there you are http://bugs.debian.org/805100
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18:39.29freaky[t]i wonder what's better. bitvise ssh client with sftp and automatic password authentication or putty with keys and no sftp
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18:40.14ajhhello. my sshfs hanged and so i restartet my computer. now when i try to login i always get to the login screen. sry i don't use debian. i use mint but i tried everything i found on the internte and i also tried the linux mint irc but without success. so i'm here. please help i don't want to reinstall mint.
18:40.36somiaj[alyssa]: http://wiki.osdev.org/GRUB_2#Build_Grub_EFI_binary_.28bootx64.efi.29 -- seems grub has some ability to generate the bootx64.efi file directly, but unsure how well this works. So maybe it is an issue with the installer not detecting it needs to build this, or as I said maybe the common way is what you did as a workaround for crummy apple efi implimiation.
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18:40.55somiaj[alyssa]: I personally have no experience with this, I just see it come up from time to time.
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18:43.06l3archoshey all. After an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" my plymouth doesn't work anymore. I have no clue what happened and why. Even a "plymouth-set-default-theme -R glow" didn't help. I realized that there is no /etc/default/grub anymore, because I have only a /etc/default/grub.ucf-dist but WHY was my old configuration file removed at all and there is only this update backup .ucf-dist file ?
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18:44.19Brigol3archos, in jessie?
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18:46.41ajhi can't login. when i login i always get back to the loginscreen. only ctrl+alt+f1 login works. i tried everything i found on the internet. please help me
18:47.20ajhyou re my last chance
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18:50.02Brigoajh, did you check logs?
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18:51.22jellyajh: log in as root at the console, create a new user.  Try logging into the GUI with that fresh user.
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18:51.49guffinsmy sound isn't working and i found something interesting...
18:51.55jellyajh: if that works, look at your normal users ~/.Xsession-errors for clues about what goes critically wrong.
18:52.05guffins"speaker-test" returns an error, but "sudo speaker-test" works fine
18:52.25jellyajh: sorry, all lowercase ~/.xsession-errors
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18:52.54redfast00Does anyone know how to make a live-usb that is ejectable when the machine has booted?
18:53.20jellyguffins: stupid workaround: add your user to audio group, as root "adduser yourusername audio", then log off and log in again
18:53.54jellyguffins: before that, please show the output of "id -a" when you're logged into a session where you don't have sound
18:53.57guffinsthe user 'guffins' is already a member of 'audio'
18:54.07jellyhah
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18:54.40guffinser, "guthrie" :)
18:54.44guffinsuid=1000(guthrie) gid=1000(guthrie) groups=1000(guthrie),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev),114(bluetooth)
18:55.41jellyredfast00: many, not sure if all live images created with live-build, have a "toram" boot parameter that loads the whole image into ram to enable that feature
18:56.23redfast00jelly: in grub?
18:56.54jellyredfast00: in whatever boot loader the live image uses.  Usually syslinux not grub
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18:57.17redfast00what if the size of the image is more than the RAM?
18:57.31jellythen you're screwed
18:58.16redfast00haha :)
18:58.18jellycan't eject cleanly if it's in use
18:58.35peterrooneyajh: also, have you tried an alternate desktop environment?  my first suspicion is a broken desktop configuration
18:58.41redfast00how do I enable that parameter?
18:59.02jellyredfast00: there's usually a prompt to type it in at boot time
18:59.27jellyor some sort of menu entry
18:59.28redfast00can I set it so it automatically loads to ram?
18:59.33jelly!live
18:59.33dpkgThe Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own.  These can be used to install a Debian system.  Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ .  http://live.debian.net/  #debian-live on irc.debian.org.  See also <live firmware>.
18:59.40jellyredfast00: ask there ^^
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18:59.50jellynote the different irc network
19:00.43[alyssa]Hello from headless debian!
19:00.46redfast00jelly: thanks
19:00.54jellyredfast00: or ask #grml people (a debian based rescue/sysadmin style live image, my favorite for that purpose)
19:01.19l3archosBrigo: yes, in Jessie
19:01.36venaphhello everyone, I just tried to create a 5th primary partition on my drive, and it was possible. and I then noticed that I had GUID partition table instead of MBR. is that the reason why it worked?
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19:04.06Brigol3archos, can you paste the logs of that update? i have jessie with plymouth running wihtou issue.
19:04.18Brigoyou can find apt logs in /var/logs/apt
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19:06.45ajhpeterrooney, i tried another display manager
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19:07.05ajhpeterrooney, now i'm upgrading the system
19:07.11ewewDoes work this link http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/ ?
19:07.27markybobewew, no
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19:07.49ewewIt is on debian wiki. Is this state permanent ?
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19:08.03markybobewew, which page?
19:08.15ewewhttps://wiki.debian.org/ACPI
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19:08.37AliShI've use tar by mistake => tar -cav ie.tar.gz /mypath
19:08.47AliShthen a lot of unknown word appears in konsole
19:08.57AliShwhat was that?
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19:09.07AliShcan it harm my os?
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19:09.41ewewAliSh Not sure. But it just displayed contents of file to terminal.
19:09.54ewewAliSh I think.
19:10.04markybobewew, i'll change it. it's https://01.org/powertop now
19:10.06Brigoewew, i think -c is create.
19:10.31jokoon_mmmh
19:10.32AliShewew: I don't know but some of them was path :$
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19:10.36Brigo-a autocompresss -v verbose
19:10.57BrigoAliSh, i think you are creating a tar file with all /mypath into..
19:11.00AliShthen it is content like while i'm printing content and it couldn't harm
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19:11.28Brigoyou should can checkd it with ls -l :)
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19:12.39markybobewew, done
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19:13.10AliShthere isn't anything :D
19:13.35ewewmarkybob Why did that domain end ?
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19:13.57AliShwhen i enter that, a lot of bell fired in konsole :))
19:14.03markybobewew, http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.lesswatts.general/793
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19:14.20BrigoAliSh, i think for actually creating a file you need -f file too. I think you just sending all that crap to standar output harmless. :)
19:14.27peterrooneyAliSh: you need to specify the output file.  anyways, the reset command normally makes a terminal OK again if you accidentally output a binary file with things the terminal mistakes for escape codes.
19:14.28ewewAliSh You should not do that.
19:14.30BrianHHey guys.  Anyone have experience getting Debian to a PowerMac G5?
19:14.30BrigoAliSh, i think for actually creating a file you need -f file too. I think you just sending all that crap to standar output, harmless. :)
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19:14.53BrigoBrianH, i think there is a wiki about that.
19:14.59BrianHI'm following the process of booting from the HDD here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s04.html.en
19:15.27BrianHI have the files on the HDD, but I can't get it to boot from the drive in OpenFirmware
19:15.31AliShBringo: yes after failing i've searched for that and my archive is in publishing level
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19:16.26derstromHello. Does the MATE version of Debian 8 support hardware acceleration? I can only find software rendering as an option in "Control Centre -> Windows" even though I have the proprietary nvidia driver installed.
19:16.34AliShsorry Brigo was write
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19:16.48AliShthank you everyone :)
19:16.52AliShbye
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19:17.03raspbianwhich program that manages network is used debian by default?
19:17.12derstromOr do I need to switch to a different window manager? AFAIK marco doesn't support hardware acceleration
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19:19.37Brigoderstrom, i think it is supported by default.
19:19.57Brigoraspbian, network-manager, of course.
19:20.12derstromhardware acceleration? I wish I could find how to enable it.
19:20.33derstromI am sure marco doesn't support GPU acceleration
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19:20.56raspbianBrigo: does this apply to raspbian, debian OS for arm ?
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19:21.45ewew!raspbian
19:21.45dpkgRaspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>.  Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian.  Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.   http://www.raspbian.org/
19:21.46Brigoraspbian, i don't know about raspbian
19:22.03zykotick9raspbian: fyi, there is a #raspbian channel
19:22.04ajhjelly, i tried it with a new user but without success
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19:22.11raspbianok
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19:23.36ajhjelly, .xsession-errors says that there is a glib-critical error
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19:25.17ajhpeterrooney, i tried another display manager and i didn't even get to the login prompt
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19:26.13pasturesofplentyhttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0871853130ec3a407b1 <- can anyone tell me why my preseed.cfg keeps prompting me to write raid/partition changes to disk... it must be an omission or typo but i just cannot see it
19:26.26ajhpeterrooney, installing another desktop environment didn't work
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19:29.27BrianHWhen I try booting from the HD in OpenFirmware using "boot hd:2,yaboot" as outlined here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html.en#boot-newworld ... I get the error: No S-ATA: port=0 can't OPEN: hd:2,yaboot  Can't open device or file"
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19:31.58pialhi, in debian 8.2 chromium,xorg and mate-settings-d is taking 70, 44 and 47 % process respectively. It is slowing the hell down of my pc. Is it normal?
19:33.25Marco__I'm trying to build VLC from debian's git (http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/vlc.git/)
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19:33.30pialIt started after I entered a website with huge page containing lot of css
19:33.48Marco__tried debuild -j8
19:33.48Marco__, but it fails because dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../vlc_2.2.1.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
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19:34.22Brigopial, if the web pages are shit, then yes, it's perfectly normal :)
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19:34.55l3archosBrigo: it's a long time ago I upgraded and now wanted to dig into the issue. It's a pain in the ass to find out :/ any other clues how/what to check ?
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19:35.52Brigol3archos, which was the nave of the file of grub.config backup? it could be a clue.
19:35.57pial<PROTECTED>
19:36.14jokoonvideolan isn't avaialable for debian ?
19:36.19pialwhat do u think?
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19:36.32markybobpial, works fine here with chromium. no sustained use
19:38.24Brigopial, try it with another web browser.
19:38.34Brigojokoon, vlc?
19:38.38Brigo,v vlc
19:38.40juddPackage: vlc on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; sid: 2.2.1-5+b1; stretch: 2.2.1-5+b1; wheezy-multimedia:
19:38.41judd1:2.0.6-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo1+cve1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo11
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19:40.36paule32hello
19:40.45paule32have problem with squid3
19:40.46paule32http://pastebin.com/HXB63yyh
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19:40.59paule32access denied
19:40.59jokoonthere seems to be some mouse acceleration, how can I disable it ?
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19:47.07pialzzzzzzzzzz, it hung up my pc, i had to cold restart. even the tty consoles hung up.
19:47.22piali couldn't even kill the process
19:52.32pialBrigo, it is all the same with firefox too
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19:55.53Brigopial, then it's the web for sure :)
19:56.30Brigopial, are you using noscripts? adblock? etc?
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19:56.49pialadblock on chromium but not on firefox
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19:57.08paule32pial: me?
19:57.11piali have seen this happen before in browsers
19:57.28pialno
19:57.38pial@Brigo
19:57.46pialbut you can say too
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19:58.41Brigopial, try with noscript, at least for trying.
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19:59.28freaky[t]hi all. im connected to my server using ssh. i have a screen running. now when i am in vim and all to the left and press backspace, it beeps. i wanna disable that. i added set noerrorbells in /etc/vim/vimrc but still the bell occurs. can anyone help me? (i restarted vim)
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20:01.24pialit persisted in multiple distro in my pc. But works fine in other pc, even in virtual box. Can it be a gpu issue. it is the only thing thats different. i'm using radeon 5570HD
20:02.12derstromfreaky[t]: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5310/how-can-i-disable-bells-visualbells-in-vim
20:03.08freaky[t]all that doesnt help derstrom
20:03.09pasturesofplentyfreaky[t]: rmmod pcspkr
20:03.20freaky[t]pasturesofplenty its over the network ;P
20:03.28freaky[t]and i want to hear somethign when iget highlighted in weechat
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20:03.45pasturesofplentyyou know, i have a similar issue lol
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20:03.55pasturesofplentyive just not given it any real attention yet
20:04.32pasturesofplentyhold on...
20:04.39pasturesofplentyso, beep from weechat
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20:04.44pasturesofplentyno beep in vim
20:06.45pasturesofplentyfreaky[t]: how about set vb in vim?
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20:09.06freaky[t]pasturesofplenty it worked
20:09.08freaky[t]i did
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20:09.18freaky[t]set noerrorbells
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20:09.38pasturesofplentydont want it to flash either?
20:09.56poffshey. I'm using RythmBox (music player) on debian and it keeps screwing up because it can't properly buffer music files from my remote server (Samba, local network). It just stops playing completely and I have to press play. It can't buffer worth a damn. Anyone got a suggestion to fix it or for another player?
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20:10.11poffsRhythmBox sorry
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20:10.53ewewpoffs How it plays from local hdd ?
20:11.02poffsewew, perfect. no issues.
20:11.17pialBrigo, nosript solved it. But pages like that become unbrowsable. It looks like a cloudfront.net script
20:11.19markybobpoffs, i don't know, but i'd ask in #rhythmbox on irc.gimp.org
20:11.23ewewpoffs I guess it caused by network lag.
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20:11.52poffsewew, it is caused by network lag, but a quality media player would buffer or pause and restart, not just "stop" playing 10 seconds into a song, every song.
20:11.55ToTheInterneti did apt-get dist-upgrade on debian testing, now mysql seems to be broken, the install just freezes. "mysql-server-5.6 (5.6.25-4) is being configured ..." and nothing happens
20:12.40ewewpoffs Its not streaming.
20:12.41markybobToTheInternet, testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
20:13.14ToTheInternetmarkybob: thanks
20:13.35pialBrigo, any way around?
20:13.40poffsewew, good point, but like when I watch a movie from the same server in something like VLC, it will buffer a bit before it starts, rather than just getting wrecked.
20:14.02Brigopial, other than noscript, i don't know. You can ask the webmaster.
20:14.06markybobit is streaming. cifs is network
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20:16.13pialBrigo, thanks. I will check around.
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20:21.04biberaohi
20:22.14biberao"you do not appear to be using the x driver" <- any ideas please? i did what the wiki said
20:22.56akpaspdkapkOh you need to reboot 4 times
20:22.57markybobbiberao, right but funtoo isn't debian
20:23.01biberaoakpaspdkapk: ?
20:23.05biberaomarkybob: i know :P
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20:23.17markybobbiberao, well...so...we wouldn't know how to help you
20:23.21biberaobut i installed debian
20:23.23biberaofor a bit
20:23.33biberaoakpaspdkapk: ?
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20:26.02edward_I am using static ip address config to connect to lan, is there anyway to get dns servers address automatically?
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20:27.02Scott0_what's the best way to get a debian virtualbox vm to hyper-v?
20:27.08markybobedward_, yes. "nameserver 1.2.3.4" in /etc/resolv.conf
20:27.28edward_markybob: what 1.2.3.4 ? is it a real nameserver?
20:27.49markybobedward_, no. example. 8.8.8.8 is real. and 8.8.4.4 (both run by google)
20:28.24edward_markybob: I dont want to set nameserver by my self but want debian to take on from my router
20:28.38ewewor opendns 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
20:29.16markybobedward_, every router does that by default...so, if you don't want to overwrite, don't do anything
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20:29.53edward_markybob: yup, thats the problem, my debian is not talking
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20:30.21markybobedward_, what do you have against setting the dns manually when your ip is static?
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20:30.40teraflopsewew: then set your dhcp router to give always the same ip based on the client mac address
20:30.57markybobor that
20:31.01ewewteraflops ?
20:31.13teraflopsnah ewew tab fila srry
20:31.14markybobhe meant edward_
20:31.17teraflopsyes
20:31.23teraflopsfail*
20:31.30ewewi know. It happens.
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20:31.49sigdkhi, any hint how to troubleshoot usb headset that is "not working" ?
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20:32.12markybobno
20:32.14markybob!not working
20:32.15dpkg"Doesn't work" is a vague statement.  Does it sit on the couch all day long?  Does it procrastinate doing the dishes?  Does it beg on the street for change?  Please be specific!  Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.  Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?".  Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
20:32.18ewewsigdk There are lots of things related to not working.
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20:33.35sigdkewew, well, I'm sure the headset is not broken. I plug it in and I hear no sound out of it though... I've no clue what to check
20:33.59ewewsigdk Check dmesg if the headset is detected.
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20:34.08teraflopsedward_: btw I bet your router sends its ip address as nameserver
20:34.27edward_I dont think my router is sending dns server
20:34.49edward_nor IP address (this setting is done by me to get static ip)
20:35.00teraflopsedward_: then fix it, since it has a built in dhcp server it has to send dns' too
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20:35.39edward_I have set two ips in /etc/resolv.conf : nameserver 8.8.8.8 <newline> nameserver 8.8.4.4
20:35.55edward_it is not working after restarting the network manager
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20:36.15teraflopsedward_: just test putting there the router ip address, try it and see
20:36.20sigdkeddul, hmm... doesn't seem to change something to the output whenever I plug in the device
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20:36.48edward_teraflops: sorry?
20:36.58teraflopsedward_: some ISP avoid other dns' than their onw dns'
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20:37.19teraflopsedward_: sorry for what?
20:38.10edward_teraflops: I didnt understand the last sentence you said thats why I said 'sorry' to ask for re-explaination
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20:39.10teraflopsah, I mean putting the router ip address in /etc/resolv.conf just its ip as nameserver
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20:40.00edward_teraflops: it seems that after restarting the networking.service the contents of /etc/resolv.conf is deleted
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20:40.14teraflopsedward_: btw is just a _standar_ ISP router?
20:40.22teraflopsedward_: right
20:40.24edward_teraflops: no, home router
20:40.58teraflopsedward_: you can avoid that behaviour i.e using openresolv package
20:41.33edward_teraflops: found the solution, by running sudo resolvconf -a eth0
20:41.48teraflopsor doing chattr (ugly hack), and so on
20:42.10edward_teraflops: I am using static IP because I have to share folders on lan, using samba
20:42.12edward_thanks btw
20:42.27teraflopsedward_: that's ok but it can be done in a saner way
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20:42.50teraflopsedward_: nah np. glad to help
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20:43.24edward_teraflops: I am wondering even if my router is set to give ip via dhcp, I can set static IP right?
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20:44.05teraflopsedward_: then use fixed ip dhcp leases in your router, or use i.e openresolv in with static ip in the client, etc etc
20:44.32edward_teraflops: do you mean this? DHCP Static IP Configuration
20:44.44teraflopsedward_: yes you can, you can also enter in your router (I suppose) and see what's going on
20:44.50teraflopsedward_: right
20:45.22EequalsMCsquaredHello, sometimes I luksOpen a small container that I have on my hd, and then I've to mount it with "sudo mount /dev/mapper/foo_container /mnt/foo_container_folder". Is it possible to automount that file once I've "luksOpened" it? So I just have to "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen container foo_container"?
20:46.48edward_teraflops: I can set static IP settings on my computer and at same time set my router to give IP dhcp :)
20:48.11teraflopsedward_: sure, just set it to whatever suits your beter
20:48.15teraflopsbetter*
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20:48.49edward_thanks bye
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20:49.36FireburnerEequalsMCsquared: You could write a bash script for that
20:50.36FireburnerEequalsMCsquared: So the script runs the luksopen and the mount command
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20:52.39aerthhello i'm trying to install nvidia fglrx-legacy drivers for my radeon hd 3450. i know it is going to be tough on jessie. i am running into: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable -- when trying to dpkg -i fglrx-legacy-driver downloaded from snapshop.debian.org
20:53.12aerthcant find xorg-video-abi-11, is there anything i can do to get the proprietary driver running?
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20:53.45Fireburneraerth: Nvidia driver for AMD Radeon video card????
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20:54.11aerththis is why i am here people
20:54.13aerthlol
20:54.35Fireburneraerth: I have no idea if this will work in any way
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20:54.49aerthso is this an ATI card: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
20:54.56aerthi see it says AMD/ATI
20:56.03Fireburneraerth: So why not installing AMD Radeon drivers?
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20:56.26aerthfirst time with a graphics card (or is it a video card?) LOL
20:56.42aerthThe following packages will be upgraded: xserver-xorg-core
20:56.47aerthlooking good mates
20:56.49Fireburnervideo card = graphics card
20:57.18aerthk im on the right tracklibfglrx-legacy is already the newest version.
20:57.36towo`and fglrx is a bad choise since radeon does a better job
20:57.42aerthok thanks
20:58.07aerthapt-get installs *radeon*
20:58.09aerthjk
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20:58.42aerthtowo`: so i'm going with xserver-xorg-video-radeon
20:59.02towo`you have to uninstall the fglrx-crap
20:59.13towo`and you have to install firmware-linux-nonfree
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21:03.25aerthFound card 1002:95c4 (30000)
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21:17.07aerthThe aticonfig utility is provided by the fglrx-driver package."~" Any other way of installing it?
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21:17.58teraflopstowo`: well fglrx is crap but it is better for gaming so I do not get your point
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21:18.32edjuinstalling on a macbook.  now at the insall grub stage.  partitions are efi, osx, root and home.  should I install grub in the root partition?
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21:19.26teraflopsaerth: well that gpu is ... heh old?
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21:19.45aerthpawn shop what can i say
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21:20.17teraflopsheh it's ok
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21:20.44teraflopsaerth: I think that gpu will work better with the free drivers
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21:21.50aerththanks
21:21.54teraflopsunless there is some fglrx legacy thingy (idk)
21:22.57derstromIf the nouveau open source driver works fine, don't bother with fglrx.
21:23.05teraflops,v fglrx-legacy-driver
21:23.06juddPackage: fglrx-legacy-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 8.97.100.7-3~bpo70+1
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21:23.45derstromsorry, didn't mean nouveau ;-)
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21:23.51teraflopsheh
21:24.11derstromjust pretend I never said nouveau, and the same advice applies ;)
21:24.23beepiederstrom, liar
21:24.24teraflopsderstrom: youre right
21:25.48aerthwhat is the internet!
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21:26.31beepieaerth, what is the outernet? something you don't!
21:26.55aerthi am restarting and hopefully it "just works"
21:27.02socommI really wish the children would go.
21:27.16beepiesocomm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outernet
21:27.18aerthi read about 'blacklist the radeon driver' but not sure how to do that.
21:27.21beepiesocomm, ^
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21:27.31beepieaerth, that's in /etc/modprobe.d/
21:27.39beepieaerth, you can place that in a new .conf file
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21:28.02teraflopsaerth: I think the fglrx package does it for you
21:28.27teraflopsalso nomodeset if I remember well
21:28.34aerthspeaking of nouvou, i see a nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf. im ignoring it
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21:29.05teraflopsnouveau and ncmpcpp are hard to spell heh
21:29.33beepienouveau is a french word ehhhh eheheheh.. hard to spell? XD MOUWWHAHAHAH.. i'm a french province :p
21:29.36beepiespeaks french
21:29.40beepieplplplplpl
21:29.46beepie:p
21:30.25aerthok restarting and it should work!
21:30.32teraflopsbeepie: ok xD
21:30.34socommbeepie: How old are you?
21:30.45derstromaerth: have you run nvidia-xconfig?
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21:30.49aerthno
21:30.51derstromoh, radeon
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21:31.49beepiesocomm, old enough to take a joke because you're not helpful anyways
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21:31.55derstromaerth, sorry, I keep thinking you're talking about an nvidia card!
21:32.30aerthi guess i dont have an nvidia card
21:32.47derstromNo, you can just ignore me :-)
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21:38.25Chocolate_ChipThere is a new security vunribility affecting LibPNG
21:38.25Chocolate_Chiphttps://8ch.net/pol/src/1447528746830.webm
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21:42.23lemondom_hi
21:42.49lemondom_is there a command/tool that can take an incomplete RAW file (like being downloaded) and extract it on the fly - as a stream - so the extracted data can be further piped into yet another program?
21:43.12lemondom_oh
21:43.14lemondom_https://github.com/vlovich/stream-unrar
21:43.17lemondom_hmmm
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21:44.56Chocolate_Chipoops
21:45.01Chocolate_ChipI linked the wroing thing
21:45.13beepieChocolate_Chip, boin
21:45.18Chocolate_Chiphttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10566664
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21:45.42Chocolate_ChipThere is a new exploit affecting libPNG https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10566664
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21:46.44Chocolate_Chiplemondom_, I saw you
21:47.00teraflopsChocolate_Chip: why dont you link to the CVE https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2015-8126
21:47.12boodieHi, I've just updated about 50 packages, mainly libreoffice libraries - aptitude now shows a massive number of defective packages and wants to download 60 GB of packages to fix the dependencies ... what is happening?
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21:47.20Chocolate_ChipSorry
21:47.22lemondom_Chocolate_Chip: thanks :)
21:47.31boodieSorry: Jessie
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21:56.04Liza18http://goo.gl/AySLpM
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22:09.57Liza18please see it https://goo.gl/3kodZJ
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22:10.37km0201Liza18, what is that?
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22:11.19ZodoTurtleopenvpn help?
22:11.36km0201ZodoTurtle, what's the problem?
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22:11.54ZodoTurtleI can't get the server side to startup unless I start it manually using openvpn --config/etc/openvpn/tun0.conf
22:12.11ZodoTurtleThe tunnel doesn't activate.
22:12.38km0201ah... my vpn experience is very very limited, so.. i'll be no use.
22:12.41ZodoTurtlewhen I attempt service openvpn restart.  It returns to prompt immediately without doing anything.
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22:13.39ewewI guess missing privilege for creating devices.
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22:14.38ZodoTurtleewew: if you are talking to me.  I was root, so how is that possible to NOT have permission when I can issue the command di.......
22:14.45ZodoTurtleOkay, so, where do I look?
22:15.18ewewZodoTurtle Check logs.
22:15.30ZodoTurtlewhich log?
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22:15.45ZodoTurtleLinux has several.
22:15.58ewewZodoTurtle /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/kern.log. not sure.
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22:21.11ZodoTurtlewell, that isn't helping.
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22:21.52ZodoTurtlewhen it works.  It works.  When it doesn't there isn't any log.
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22:26.24teraflopsZodoTurtle: journalctl -u openvpn?
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22:29.36ZodoTurtleteraflops: nothing recent.  Nothing related to current settings.
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22:30.28ZodoTurtleThose messages are from an hour ago.
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22:32.57ZodoTurtlemtnman: hi
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22:35.49ewewIt looks like this bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792880
22:35.50juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/792880 in openvpn (open): «openvpn does not start»; severity: important; opened: 2015-07-19; last modified: 2015-07-19.
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22:38.58ZodoTurtleI give up.
22:40.10ZodoTurtleI brute forced around it for now.
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22:46.48beepieZodoTurt1e, you're too slow
22:47.06beepieZodoTurt1e, turtles ha!
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22:56.27paule32hello
22:56.40paule32have problems with squid3.4
22:56.42paule32http://pastebin.com/HXB63yyh
22:57.04ewewpaule32 Can you post your config file ?
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22:57.47paule32ewew: should be all here: http://pastebin.com/HXB63yyh
22:59.17ewewpaule32 Wait for someone who knows squid.
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23:02.41shawnHai
23:02.53shawnI like salt and pepper squid
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23:04.37paule32cool
23:04.51iflemanah garlic and chilli prawns mmm
23:04.55paule32hi shawn
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23:05.25paule32i want to block some websites
23:05.53paule32but i don't get squid working fine
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23:06.08paule32i get access denied from squid
23:06.25paule32that is, nothing else , ok much output
23:06.32paule32http://pastebin.com/HXB63yyh
23:06.42paule32here are some infos
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23:09.13DJ_Bitconwhy putting 'blacklist ehci_hcd' , uhci_hcd and usbcore to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf still results into they being loaded?
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23:10.03DJ_Bitconremoving them manually with modprobe -r works fine
23:10.12DJ_Bitconthough i would like to have it automated
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23:34.55ewewpaule32 can you change line 194 to other value ?
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23:39.53paule32ewew: 2015/11/15 00:36:57 kid1| helperHandleRead: unexpected read from blockscript #Hlpr0, 3 bytes 'OK
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23:40.57ewewpaule32 acl localnet src 192.168.178.79
23:40.57ewewi meant change it to 192.168.178.0/24.
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23:42.00ewewpaule32 does it start or not ?
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23:42.22paule32ewew: it starts
23:42.28portonWhat is the GUI way of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`?
23:43.02paule32ewew: but the proxy site don't display
23:43.19paule32ewew: all web content is bypassed by squid
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23:43.33paule32ewew: so i can see full content
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23:44.33ewewpaule32 What mode is squid running ?
23:45.39paule32ewew: normal? not transparent either intercept
23:46.18ewewpaule32 check this site http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples
23:46.44paule32i was there
23:47.23paule32ewew: o guess the position of acl / http_access is not correct?
23:47.28ewewpaule32 if it not redirects traffic then you must set your computer to access the proxy port.
23:47.54ewewpaule32 in case of transparent proxy, this is hadled by proxy it self.
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23:48.17ewewpaule32 with DNAT.
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23:48.35paule32ewew: i need user auth
23:49.02paule32ewew: proxy is setting in webbrowser
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23:51.02ewewpaule32 Im sorry, but i dont know squid in detail. You must wait for someone who knows it well.
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23:52.33ewewI have to go. Bye
23:52.40dvsnope
23:53.33KihokkiAny idea why I don't see any output when I restart a service e.g. "service nginx restart"?
23:53.41KihokkiCommand works through
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