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| 00:15.14 | Profash | has ufc 193 started yet / anyone got link? |
| 00:15.43 | cbt998 | hi, just got gnome3 and i was wondering how i could add some application shortcuts to the top bar... |
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| 00:25.08 | morf | i have installed sudo during automatic preseed install, but now when i do dpkg -L sudo ... it shows only /etc/* files ... any ideas pls? :) |
| 00:25.23 | paperd | reinstall it |
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| 00:25.29 | paperd | or purge and reinstall it |
| 00:25.55 | morf | oh well i didn't set root password :)) |
| 00:26.11 | morf | i will in deed reinstall but what could go wrong |
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| 00:37.26 | morf | reinstalled same result :( |
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| 01:01.17 | MACscr | getent |
| 01:01.42 | MACscr | the proxmox install docs say that it must return ipv4 |
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| 01:47.13 | uberdub | can anyone help with backport from stretch? |
| 01:47.23 | uberdub | want to run ps2 |
| 01:47.49 | uberdub | pcsx2* |
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| 01:48.20 | somiaj | ,v pcsx2 |
| 01:48.21 | judd | No package named 'pcsx2' was found in amd64. |
| 01:48.35 | uberdub | not in stretch? |
| 01:48.35 | somiaj | uberdub: what is the name of the package? have you seen this factoid? |
| 01:48.43 | somiaj | !tell uberdub about ssb |
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| 01:48.59 | somiaj | uberdub: is it an i386 package only? |
| 01:49.02 | uberdub | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/pcsx2 |
| 01:49.05 | somiaj | ,v pcsx2 --arch i386 |
| 01:49.06 | judd | Package: pcsx2 on i386 -- sid: 1.3.1-1094-gf062b0f+dfsg-1+b1; stretch: 1.3.1-1094-gf062b0f+dfsg-1+b1 |
| 01:49.28 | somiaj | ,check-backport pcsx2 --arch i386 |
| 01:49.34 | judd | Backporting package pcsx2 in sidâjessie/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 01:50.18 | somiaj | uberdub: I think the only thing special you'll need is if you are making this on a amd64 install you'll want to complie it in an i386 chroot |
| 01:51.41 | simonpatapon | hi |
| 01:52.20 | uberdub | so no way to .deb? |
| 01:53.30 | somiaj | uberdub: I told you, you will have to make this in a i386 chroot (use debootstrap) if you are running amd64 |
| 01:53.53 | uberdub | ok |
| 01:54.39 | somiaj | uberdub: mkdir stretch_chroot_i386; debootstrap --arch i386 stretch stretch_chroot_i386 |
| 01:55.48 | somiaj | uberdub: note you'll probabaly need some space for this. A gig would be overkill but I would use that an estimate for where to put this directory if space is an issue for you |
| 01:56.42 | somiaj | hmm, maybe you'll need a coupld of gigs. Hard to estimate. My sid 32bit chroot is 2.5G, but that is because it contains all the software to build wine |
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| 01:57.36 | uberdub | hmmm |
| 01:58.03 | markybob | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch03s04.html.en says 2G HD without desktop is needed |
| 01:58.12 | somiaj | though the source for wine is 1gig, so that estimate is very high. |
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| 02:00.34 | somiaj | uberdub: oh wait, I gave you an error above. You will need a 32bit jessie chroot (not stretch). |
| 02:00.43 | somiaj | you need to build on jessie, not stretch |
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| 02:03.16 | Tom01 | Does Debian 9 support Samba? |
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| 02:03.57 | somiaj | Tom01: since there is no debian 9 (yet) that is a vague question |
| 02:03.58 | naz2022 | naz |
| 02:04.10 | somiaj | and yes samba has been in debian for a while now and it is also in stretch |
| 02:04.11 | somiaj | ,v samba |
| 02:04.13 | judd | Package: samba on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5; wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2; stretch: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-4; sid: 2:4.1.20+dfsg-1; experimental: |
| 02:04.14 | judd | 2:4.3.0+dfsg-2 |
| 02:04.31 | somiaj | There is a chance (highly unlikely) that it will be cut during the freeze, but for samba I highly doubt it. |
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| 02:06.14 | markybob | Tom01, did you mean debian testing? |
| 02:06.31 | Tom01 | markybob: Yes, testing. |
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| 02:06.42 | markybob | Tom01, yes, it's supported |
| 02:06.47 | Tom01 | ok |
| 02:09.00 | markybob | methinks somiaj had a few drinks ;) |
| 02:09.21 | somiaj | markybob: nope, I'm usually this crazy. |
| 02:09.43 | uberdub | somiaj ..um ok |
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| 02:47.33 | pasturesofplenty | so i just have to say, been doing a lot of debian preseed installation stuff recently, and im sort of forgetting why i ever moved my desktop away from debian... its quite nice actually, going to move back when i have some time :) |
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| 03:04.10 | DJ_Bitcon | why a 3proxy program isn't included in debian repos still? It is very competitive to any of actual existing SOCKS5 server software included in repos |
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| 03:11.25 | beepie | DJ_Bitcon, uh, there's ssh. |
| 03:11.50 | DJ_Bitcon | how to make it to be a transparent proxy ? |
| 03:11.57 | beepie | DJ_Bitcon, google. |
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| 03:13.14 | DJ_Bitcon | actually i have googled it, it's only possible to make it with a single end point |
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| 03:17.50 | DJ_Bitcon | while danted is fine, 3proxy offers far better authentication methods |
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| 03:18.28 | AvatarA | what do you mean single end point? are you talking about ssh tunnels? |
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| 03:18.57 | DJ_Bitcon | yes, i think it is what bepie was talking about |
| 03:19.10 | AvatarA | see ssh -D |
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| 03:23.38 | DJ_Bitcon | it acts as a socks5 proxy only for a specific port and host |
| 03:24.19 | DJ_Bitcon | not exactly what i need |
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| 03:27.26 | DJ_Bitcon | also it doesn't support authentication for socks5 proto |
| 03:27.27 | linuxuserwannabe | DJ_Bitcon, have you actually tried the ssh method, or just from reading? |
| 03:27.34 | DJ_Bitcon | yes i have |
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| 03:29.40 | DJ_Bitcon | and i know very well that if you need a fully functional socks5 server with authentication, then it's not about an ssh tunnel |
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| 03:56.33 | Overand | Thoughts on the best way to upgrade a Debian 7 system that's been untopuched since a fresh install ~jan 2014 |
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| 03:56.54 | Overand | It doesn't have any data on it that matters, and the Debian 7 install works fine; I'd just rather not do a reinstall because of the awkward form factor, lack of USB keys etc |
| 03:57.07 | Overand | should I bring it up to date on 7 first, or just pop it right to 8? |
| 03:57.51 | somiaj | I'd update to the current wheey then upgrade to jessie |
| 03:57.59 | somiaj | it most likely won't matter if you do or not, but I still would |
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| 03:58.16 | somiaj | !tell Overand about wheezy->jessie |
| 03:58.19 | somiaj | make sure to read the release notes |
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| 04:07.12 | Overand | somiaj: It looks like the upgrade is all of 121 packages, at 104MB |
| 04:07.19 | Overand | I'm just trying to figure out why most of these packages are even present |
| 04:08.01 | somiaj | it if it has been a while it isn't uncommon to have that many security and bug fixes, but really depends on what you installed. |
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| 04:24.25 | morf | nevermind |
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| 04:42.58 | Julie233 | Hey! Does Iceweasel work with Firefox add-ons? All of them? |
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| 04:47.26 | Julie233 | Hey! Does Iceweasel work with Firefox add-ons? All of them? |
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| 04:53.40 | guffins | yes |
| 04:54.00 | guffins | iceweasel is just rebranded firefox because mozilla got mad at debian |
| 04:54.03 | Julie233 | guffins: I've searched and searched for that information. How do you know? |
| 04:54.29 | somiaj | Julie233: for the version that is in debian, which is the ESR version 38. addons not compadable with that firefox version wont' work. |
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| 04:54.41 | Julie233 | somiaj: Oh, no! |
| 04:54.41 | guffins | the only difference is that it's slightly behind in releases and has unbranded artwork |
| 04:55.00 | Julie233 | guffins: somiaj: I guess that will be quite a lot of non-working add-ons. |
| 04:55.08 | somiaj | well it just uses the esr as opposed to the offical release, but this is more along the lines of debian policy |
| 04:55.21 | guffins | as far as I've been able to tell, the usual suite of HTTPS Everywhere, NoScript, RES, etc... works. |
| 04:55.28 | somiaj | Julie233: not really, the esr version is supported by firefox. |
| 04:55.28 | guffins | Adblock Plus too |
| 04:55.52 | Julie233 | guffins: somiaj: Maybe one of you can check the add-ons for me? Bored enough? |
| 04:55.56 | somiaj | Julie233: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ -- that is the version debian ships (unbranded) |
| 04:56.03 | somiaj | !mozilla.debian.net |
| 04:56.04 | dpkg | For stable releases, newer versions of Iceweasel, Icedove and Iceape can be found at http://mozilla.debian.net/ ; you will want the "release" repository. For users of testing and unstable, updated packages are normally in <experimental>; only Extended Support Release (ESR) versions are suitable for release in <stable> so only those versions can be uploaded to unstable. |
| 04:56.24 | somiaj | I thinkt hey have backports for the main release if you don't want to use esr. |
| 04:56.40 | guffins | if you're worried, check the individual addons and see if the devs say what version it's confirmed to work on |
| 04:56.43 | Julie233 | I would like to stick with ESR, but still be able to use my add-ons. |
| 04:57.21 | Julie233 | guffins: somiaj: ublock Origin? uMatrix? YouTube Plus? |
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| 04:58.02 | somiaj | Julie233: I would assume most addons will work with the esr release. It is an offically supported firefox release. But third party developers may use newer features in that case you can use mozilla.debian.net |
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| 04:58.35 | Julie233 | somiaj: Hmm. Sounds good. |
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| 04:59.09 | Julie233 | somiaj: So... how do I navigate to the x64 .iso that I want to fit on a 700MB CD? |
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| 05:03.34 | somiaj | Julie233: just get the netinstall or the non-free netinstall if you have a card that uses non-free firmware. |
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| 05:04.12 | Julie233 | somiaj: A live CD would be much easier for me. |
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| 05:04.31 | Julie233 | somiaj: Do they even fit on a 700MB CD? |
| 05:04.55 | swift110 | probably not |
| 05:05.01 | swift110 | unless maybe a minimal install |
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| 05:06.00 | Julie233 | swift110: Are these minimal? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ |
| 05:06.07 | somiaj | Not ones with a desktop. You can get some ones that have console tools that fit in under 700megs (most people dont' use cds anymore so there hasn't been much push to try to force things to fit on a single cd) |
| 05:06.37 | somiaj | Julie233: you can get debian cd images, but these aren't live, they are just installers. And if I recall the only live images I can think of that fit on a 700meg cd don't have a graphical enviorment. |
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| 05:07.34 | Julie233 | swift110: somiaj: Oh, no. I'm way out of luck now then. :( |
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| 05:09.25 | somiaj | Julie233: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-standard.iso is only 416Megs, but it wont' contain a graphical enviorment. |
| 05:10.00 | Julie233 | somiaj: I wouldn't know what to do with it. :( |
| 05:10.16 | somiaj | Sounds like you should get a cheap thumbdrive. |
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| 05:10.54 | Julie233 | somiaj: I do have a big USB drive, but I'm always afraid of using it for purposes like this. |
| 05:10.59 | Julie233 | I don't trust it. |
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| 05:20.49 | randomuser123 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10566664 |
| 05:21.01 | randomuser123 | is there a patch? |
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| 05:30.12 | somiaj | randomuser123: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-8126 -- it appears it is not fixed in debian |
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| 05:38.36 | randomuser123 | somiaj wow |
| 05:38.43 | randomuser123 | gentoo fixed it two days ago |
| 05:39.37 | somiaj | well if you have a patch, submit it |
| 05:39.49 | somiaj | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805113 |
| 05:39.59 | somiaj | there is the bug report, go patch the version(s) in debian and submit a patch. |
| 05:40.08 | somiaj | but it has been reported so it is known about. |
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| 05:43.49 | Overand | Woo! Upgrading Debian 7 from a Jan 2014 untouched to current, 79 packages for a total of 86.5MB! |
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| 05:57.35 | mikela | i can't seem to get the proprietary drivers for my gforce 940M to work, I've tried multiple versions and xorg keeps crashing |
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| 05:57.53 | somiaj | mikela: they are not offically in debian yet and that is optimus? |
| 05:57.55 | mikela | my machine has two video cards one intel and the other nvidia, could this possibly be causing the issues? |
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| 05:58.15 | mikela | somiaj: not in debian yet so I'm getting it directly from nvidia |
| 05:58.20 | somiaj | yea you have the optimus drivers which dno't have the best support in linux. I can't really help with that but point you to what you need |
| 05:58.24 | somiaj | !optimus |
| 05:58.24 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 05:58.44 | somiaj | !bumblebee |
| 05:58.44 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:59.00 | e66 | How can I get the previous version of a package installed in my system? |
| 05:59.16 | mikela | somiaj: thanks so i should look into bumblebee? |
| 05:59.27 | somiaj | mikela: note since you don't have a card that is currently supported be careful with how the nvidia.com drivers won't play nicely with dpkg. But I belive you have to have bumblee to get optimus support in linux. I have avoided the hardware due to its limitations. |
| 05:59.47 | somiaj | e66: only if you dont' run apt-get clean, you can check /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 06:00.06 | somiaj | e66: if you run apt-get clean or autoclean, you'll have to get previous versions from snapshot.debian.orb |
| 06:00.09 | somiaj | .org |
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| 06:00.46 | mikela | somiaj: thanks im looking into it now |
| 06:01.09 | mikela | i'm also having issues because I have a high resolution screen and so apps like gimp and keepass2 look tiny |
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| 06:01.23 | mikela | is there a way to force non-gtk apps to scale up? |
| 06:01.27 | e66 | somiaj I maintain my own apt-server. How can I get old version without sshing to it. I just want to get it inside client machine by built in tools like apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg-* etc |
| 06:01.52 | somiaj | mikela: it use to be by changing the dpi setting, but now I think gnome forces it to be stuck at 96 and the scaling feature it has may not work |
| 06:02.05 | somiaj | msjche: but gnome has a tool that allows you to change the text scale factor. |
| 06:02.16 | somiaj | msjche: sorry, he left, bad tab completion |
| 06:02.38 | msjche | somiaj: no worries :) |
| 06:03.16 | somiaj | e66: I'm unsure how an repo deals with old versions. It probabaly won't keep them around. But if you just need a place to download a few from, use snapshot.debian.org |
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| 06:03.53 | somiaj | e66: you could look at apt-cache policy to see if the version is being hosted by your server, but my guess is no, though I have no experience running my own local repo. |
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| 06:04.06 | beepie | !starwars |
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| 06:04.45 | beepie | somiaj, hein |
| 06:04.55 | beepie | one can change the dpi with xrandr |
| 06:05.06 | beepie | even without the front-end gui tools |
| 06:05.24 | beepie | !barf |
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| 06:06.46 | e66 | apt-cache is actually deals with the latest version of the package for each distribution. I have 3 distribution so I see it lists 3 HEAD versions for them. |
| 06:07.53 | somiaj | e66: apt-cache shows what versions are available from the repos/mirros you have enabled. It is the repos/mirrors that only give the latest version. snapshot.debian.org gives you mirrors that have previous versions |
| 06:08.15 | beepie | i think you mean "apt-cache policy" |
| 06:08.43 | somiaj | e66: again I don't think the mirrors/repos keep older versions around. That is why I mentioned checking your local backup. But snapshot.debian.org provides previous versions if that is what you are after. |
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| 06:36.17 | deego | Trying out freeciv on debian stable, installed the sound package. yet, no sound. sound works perfectly otherwise, say, on youtube. Do I need to install some sdl plugin? |
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| 06:40.21 | somiaj | deego: are you using pulseaudio (I'm wonding if freeciv doesn't support pulse) |
| 06:40.48 | beepie | !pulseaudio |
| 06:40.48 | dpkg | PulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a cross-platform network sound server, intended as a drop-in replacement for <ESD>. Packaged for Debian since 4.0 "Etch", read /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/README.Debian after installation for configuration recommendations; Debian specific how-to is at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497 . http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ http://pulseaudio.org/ #pulseaudio on irc.freenode.net. |
| 06:41.57 | Deepfriedice | Hold up: should ~/,profile be executable? |
| 06:42.36 | deego | somiaj: i do have pulseaudio installed. I use alsamixer to control the volume |
| 06:43.24 | somiaj | deego: This is just a guess. If you have the pulseaudio daemon running I wonder if disabling it would give you sound in freeciv (note this might mean other sounds stop working) |
| 06:43.59 | deego | ah, thanks, somiaj. i will try that |
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| 07:34.08 | dooriit | i think this excited...... GENITAL WARTS! maybe. it is sacd. i think this a game - NFL just this a joke |
| 07:34.16 | dooriit | you do you and he who's 23 and is gettingle one partied forbin shit. what does the korn blair witch end old. no then your peace. Raise you so each for preside of 23 and the walk I talking dealing a guy donkey it? i have carpet. if i want pho. Why you run off? he's just invitation. Hi. o god. 23 year olds them like your peace. its too as pressure during with woman right noodle you're talking a |
| 07:34.18 | dooriit | gambler |
| 07:34.24 | dooriit | I won't think and is over $380 miles from spot in human off a French of random rap on the for married |
| 07:34.31 | dooriit | good girl. by the basektball album. its ok. 1187songs, 12hrs downloading them sucked to kickin my teeth. spit is been has born |
| 07:34.39 | dooriit | es those? heh. lol. ultimately, "speed" is clean. never inconvenience to see |
| 07:34.47 | dooriit | _Forbin: the most and the patience to get used to leave asked her worlds. meh |
| 07:34.55 | dooriit | why-im-dumping-arrest in ther how about win 10. yarddog: i like 12. party! get used tongue" u hear me runatrain |
| 07:35.03 | dooriit | (Malbin: the might it reach in that's not racist. all europe is a day. Vikings lock u thing my tonic! get naked! pants?! we dont was stories hands |
| 07:35.11 | dooriit | i didn't still able when the tinder of big boobs open: this inferior to get used to see |
| 07:35.19 | dooriit | _Forbin: these in ever how to american in and safe. NOODLEARM. the food and soccer = grass fairy's. why dont was legal. Viking vital |
| 07:35.27 | dooriit | chrome | ExtremeTech. haha chick riding vital |
| 07:35.35 | dooriit | chrome Why I'm dumping they article and they're open: this...is a socer = grass fairy's. we was good and soccer |
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| 07:35.42 | mah454 | Hello , |
| 07:35.43 | dooriit | you are me! all take a bicycle want see it reach into my software. ooo. soccer jersey. - Imgur to wait sucks. culture: yeah, like things. Blair Walsh receives extensions update socer as i do?. no. i would have this on 7-11 doors when when that's not racist. all take a $14 breakfast |
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| 07:35.58 | mah454 | I use debian stretch (Testing) , Can install kde 4.14 on this ? |
| 07:36.09 | mah454 | KDE Framework 4.14 |
| 07:36.21 | mah454 | Sorry KDE Workspace 4.14 |
| 07:36.44 | mah454 | Or 4.13 ... |
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| 07:37.35 | somiaj | mah454: what is kde workspace? Does the version in stretch not suit your needs? |
| 07:38.11 | mah454 | somiaj: I mean KDE Platform 4.14 not Plasma 5 |
| 07:38.19 | mah454 | Plasma 5 is not stable |
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| 07:39.07 | somiaj | mah454: if stretch is doing the transition to kde5, it might be hard to downgrade to 4.14. Why not just run debian stable? |
| 07:39.51 | mah454 | somiaj: maybe for use new version for some packages ... |
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| 07:40.02 | somiaj | mah454: then use or make backports? |
| 07:40.15 | mah454 | no |
| 07:41.11 | somiaj | well kde has a lot of packages you have to deal with. And if you choose to not run the current testing with kde5 then you won't be running a supported version. But feel free to downgrade things to versions you like. Just don't expect it to be supported if or when things break |
| 07:41.52 | somiaj | I dont' know enough about kde to suggest which packages to downgrade/hold back |
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| 09:03.30 | themill | mountain1: if the file is in debian/packagename/ then it's already in the right place (also, you'll do better in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net) |
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| 10:02.58 | ralfd | Anybody here, who is familiar with Gnome 3.18 in stretch? |
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| 10:03.57 | jelly | you'll find more users of stretch in |
| 10:04.00 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 10:04.00 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. |
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| 10:05.34 | ralfd | Thanks jelly, but "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." |
| 10:06.15 | jelly | ralfd: not on Freenode, different irc server(network) |
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| 10:06.44 | Guest39635 | hello, is there something like #linux-software channel ? |
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| 10:07.14 | jelly | Guest39635: ##linux probably covers both OS and applications |
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| 10:08.39 | Guest39635 | jelly: ty. |
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| 10:09.04 | ralfd | jelly; which server should i use? i was always using freenode so far. |
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| 10:11.14 | jelly | ralfd: this particular channel, and most #debian development channels, are on irc.oftc.net, also named irc.debian.org |
| 10:11.46 | jelly | ralfd: most irc clients let you connect to multiple servers. |
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| 10:20.32 | MACscr | anyone ever seen a crazy networking issue like this? http://screencast.com/t/wBcIZOSotscZ |
| 10:20.41 | MACscr | super odd |
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| 10:26.15 | digitalboy | Hi guys, I've a question for you, why the Debian 8 textual installer (XFCE CD ISO) keeps trying to connect to the WiFi networks? Is this a normal behaviour? |
| 10:26.22 | digitalboy | Sorry for my bad english.. |
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| 10:30.06 | jelly | MACscr: which debian release is that |
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| 10:30.14 | MACscr | 8.2 |
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| 10:31.09 | Halma | hi all |
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| 10:31.36 | Halma | i am looking for an lightweight svn client with https support and less dependencies, someone knows a good one ? |
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| 10:31.55 | MACscr | git ftw |
| 10:32.04 | Halma | git-svn ? |
| 10:32.25 | MACscr | no, instead of svn. i really dont know anyone that still uses svn |
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| 10:49.25 | debian8xfce | hello, fellow debs |
| 10:49.39 | debian8xfce | can debian work with smb? |
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| 10:49.52 | debian8xfce | I have lan at home with windows pcs |
| 10:50.15 | debian8xfce | they have net shares |
| 10:50.28 | debian8xfce | how to access them from debian pc? |
| 10:51.17 | debian8xfce | if I hit 'local network |
| 10:51.22 | debian8xfce | in file manager |
| 10:51.39 | debian8xfce | then I get an error saying '/ on ' is inaccessible |
| 10:52.43 | teclo- | yes Debian GNU/Linux can browse SMB networks |
| 10:52.46 | ewew | debian8xfce Not sure what you are trying to do. |
| 10:53.25 | debian8xfce | ewew: just want to access a shared folder from a winpc |
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| 10:54.20 | ewew | debian8xfce https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html |
| 10:54.21 | ewew | From my point of view you are trying to access a place where you dont have permission. |
| 10:55.31 | debian8xfce | what do I need to grant a permission? In windows networks I just need to set the same local group name |
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| 10:56.16 | ewew | look at the manual link above. |
| 10:56.50 | kaodi | hello |
| 10:57.18 | kaodi | hhhhhh |
| 10:57.54 | debian8xfce | so debian doesn't have samba installed by default? |
| 10:58.06 | debian8xfce | because I can't find smb.conf at those paths |
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| 11:01.20 | debian8xfce | but 'dpkg --search samba' shows lots of lines |
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| 11:03.23 | r00tobo | you can use synaptic package manager to install samba |
| 11:04.05 | ewew | https://wiki.debian.org/SambaServerSimple |
| 11:07.07 | ewew | http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=smb.conf&sektion=5&apropos=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&locale= |
| 11:07.28 | ewew | It may be debian specific. |
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| 11:09.20 | debian8xfce | r00tobo: I installed 'samba' and all dependant packages from synaptic |
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| 11:09.30 | debian8xfce | but thunar still throws that error |
| 11:10.00 | debian8xfce | when I hit 'browse lan' |
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| 11:16.27 | freakyy | hi all i have a question about screen. how can i disable the screenlock feature in screenrc? screen keeps locking itself and i need to type in 2 passwords |
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| 11:17.43 | debian8xfce | do I need to somehow start samba every time I need access smb shares of a lan pc? |
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| 11:22.27 | kubast2 | Hey ,what's debian's equivlant of /etc/vconsole.conf ? |
| 11:22.53 | kubast2 | I want to change default key map ,font and font map of ttys |
| 11:22.56 | kubast2 | on my rpi |
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| 11:24.27 | debian8xfce | how to start samba daemons properly? man page doesn't cover that, yet says that smbd should be started immediately after nmbd |
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| 11:25.29 | otyugh | hey |
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| 11:25.57 | otyugh | how to, from a shell, list all devices even if they do not have relevent filesystem ? |
| 11:26.16 | otyugh | something similar to blkid |
| 11:26.40 | otyugh | but blkid only show stuff it recognizes |
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| 11:28.14 | debian8xfce | ls /dev/ |
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| 11:29.52 | debian8xfce | otyugh: ^ |
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| 11:30.29 | otyugh | debian8xfce, it does list much more than what I asked for. |
| 11:30.45 | lubarch | im not able to mount cd disk /27 |
| 11:30.48 | debian8xfce | it lists all devices |
| 11:30.56 | otyugh | Well maybe it wasn't obvious I was talking about storage device ? |
| 11:31.06 | otyugh | As I was talking of fiesystem and all. |
| 11:31.11 | debian8xfce | list /dev/sd* |
| 11:31.20 | lubarch | im not able to mount cd disk, it says wrong fs type? |
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| 11:32.05 | otyugh | again wrong, there is storage beginign by /dev/mmcbl* and /dev/nand* at least. |
| 11:32.29 | debian8xfce | so you know what to look for |
| 11:32.35 | debian8xfce | isn't that what you need? |
| 11:32.54 | debian8xfce | lubarch: on freebsd it usually helped to run fsck first |
| 11:33.06 | otyugh | I'd like to do it without human knowledfe added up to give it to other people with lesser knowledge |
| 11:33.14 | debian8xfce | oh |
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| 11:33.42 | otyugh | I guess I'll just give them gparted, but I'd liked something more basic. :/ |
| 11:34.01 | debian8xfce | lubarch: something like 'mount''s output maybe? |
| 11:34.11 | otyugh | "parted print" maybe. I thought there was more minimalist. |
| 11:34.17 | debian8xfce | err, otyugh ^ |
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| 11:35.07 | otyugh | mount only does show what is mounted, right ? |
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| 11:35.24 | debian8xfce | rigt |
| 11:35.27 | otyugh | :( |
| 11:35.28 | debian8xfce | right* |
| 11:36.25 | debian8xfce | you could write a shell script that would parse 'ls /dev' output filtering out what you don't need :) |
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| 11:39.05 | debian8xfce | hey, so what about smb? is it possible to make it work with thunar file manager? |
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| 11:46.02 | debian8xfce | so I configured smb.conf, restarted /etc/init.d/samba, click 'browse network' in thunar and I still get error 'failed to open '/ on ' the specified address is not supported' |
| 11:46.57 | paule32 | hello |
| 11:47.38 | paule32 | now, i have a little bit change the configs of squid3.4 |
| 11:47.49 | paule32 | here are some infos: |
| 11:47.52 | paule32 | http://pastebin.com/AN7BMD30 |
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| 11:48.07 | paule32 | the proxy is set in browser |
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| 11:48.33 | paule32 | but when i search for a website, the browser search endless |
| 11:48.44 | paule32 | till i abort the search process |
| 11:49.09 | paule32 | what can i do? |
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| 11:51.47 | debian8xfce | #samba is dead |
| 11:51.50 | debian8xfce | :( |
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| 11:53.47 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: There is command-line Samba/CIFS client called smbclient. |
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| 11:54.26 | debian8xfce | meta-coder: yeah, but I wanted to browse shares like a white man |
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| 11:56.11 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Try 'gigolo' frontend. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gigolo |
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| 11:57.19 | debian8xfce | meta-coder: have you tried it? |
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| 12:00.23 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: yes. Install gvfs, gvfs-backends packages if you don't have them. |
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| 12:01.00 | debian8xfce | meta-coder: does it require any configuration? |
| 12:01.18 | MACscr | jelly: so now that you know im on 8.2, any suggestions on the crazy networking issue? http://screencast.com/t/wBcIZOSotscZ |
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| 12:02.48 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Not much. Server/share/user name/domain/password. |
| 12:03.03 | MACscr | i pretty much have to manually restart the networking service ot get things working again |
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| 12:03.11 | MACscr | after every boot |
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| 12:03.43 | debian8xfce | I don't even get how to use smbclient |
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| 12:06.34 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: If you have gvfs installed, try to open your share directly using Thunar by entering such in the location bar: smb://<user>@<server>/<share>/ |
| 12:06.38 | debian8xfce | why does smbclient ask for root's password? even if I'm already su'ed |
| 12:09.01 | debian8xfce | meta-coder: what should I specify as user in your example? |
| 12:09.16 | debian8xfce | in windows I don't need a user to browser available shares |
| 12:09.35 | debian8xfce | I just set the same workgroup as the smb server in |
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| 12:10.25 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Gigolo frontend will open the location in Thunar for you. |
| 12:10.39 | tugrik | debian8xfce: it's asking for the password to use when making network connections |
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| 12:10.58 | tugrik | as you're root, it's asking for root's password - it presumes you want to connect to network shares as the current user |
| 12:11.22 | ewew | debian8xfce Linux is not windows. Not a one click device.:) |
| 12:12.27 | debian8xfce | meta-coder: installed gigolo, what do I do next? |
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| 12:13.09 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Actions>Connect> select Windows share> |
| 12:14.06 | paule32 | now, i have a little bit change the configs of squid3.4 |
| 12:14.08 | debian8xfce | error: it is necessary to specify a valid location address |
| 12:14.12 | debian8xfce | :-/ |
| 12:14.15 | paule32 | but when i search for a website, the browser search endless |
| 12:14.29 | paule32 | http://pastebin.com/AN7BMD30 |
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| 12:15.57 | debian8xfce | meta-coder: any clue on what I am doing wrong? |
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| 12:16.50 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: enter the hostname/IP address of the server |
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| 12:16.58 | debian8xfce | I did |
| 12:17.07 | debian8xfce | used hostname |
| 12:17.22 | debian8xfce | tried IP now |
| 12:17.39 | debian8xfce | also, there's a listbox item with only 1 value 'another type' |
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| 12:18.01 | debian8xfce | value for 'service type' property |
| 12:20.05 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Enter server, press refresh button, select the share> Connect>Anonymously |
| 12:21.04 | debian8xfce | there's no refresh button |
| 12:21.36 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: type in the share name then |
| 12:21.59 | jelly | MACscr: no, I don't think that kind of renaming should happen in jessie |
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| 12:22.13 | debian8xfce | say server name is 'server', how to type it in? |
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| 12:23.07 | meta-coder | If you know the IP address use it. |
| 12:23.31 | debian8xfce | same error |
| 12:23.43 | debian8xfce | error: it is necessary to specify a valid location address |
| 12:25.05 | debian8xfce | maybe specifying a port is a must? |
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| 12:26.49 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Not if it is using the standard port. Do you have those gvfs packages installed? |
| 12:26.59 | debian8xfce | yeah |
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| 12:27.29 | meta-coder | debian8xfce: Try to open smb://<ip of server>/ in Thunar |
| 12:28.11 | debian8xfce | kind of nothing happens |
| 12:28.30 | debian8xfce | I typed in, hit enter and nothing changes |
| 12:29.05 | debian8xfce | maybe I should restart some services after I installed those packages? |
| 12:30.06 | debian8xfce | I think I'll just restart the system, since linuxes are really awkward |
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| 12:33.24 | debian8xfce_ | pc restart didn't resolve the issue :( |
| 12:34.28 | debian8xfce_ | I guess those packages are just broken or incompatible with debian |
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| 12:59.05 | Deepfriedice | Hi, I'm having issues with my $PATH in Debian Testing. I have some path additions in my ~/.profile , and while they show up fine from in any other VT, they don't appear in terminal emulators inside my desktop session. |
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| 13:16.51 | ewew | Deepfriedice Look at man page of bash. |
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| 13:17.52 | Deepfriedice | That's 4k lines long, what am I looking for? |
| 13:18.05 | ewew | Deepfriedice bash invocation. |
| 13:18.11 | ewew | Deepfriedice I think |
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| 13:18.53 | themill | Deepfriedice: terminal emulators don't create a login shell so .profile is not used (but .bashrc is) |
| 13:19.26 | Deepfriedice | Ah, alright. |
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| 13:19.41 | Deepfriedice | Let my try moving shit over then. |
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| 13:21.08 | Deepfriedice | Wait, is .bashrc run on login shells? Because if not, should I be copying this stuff or putting it somewhere that's always run? |
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| 13:24.54 | themill | Deepfriedice: .profile normally sources .bashrc |
| 13:25.40 | Deepfriedice | Ah, so if I just put it in .bashrc I'll be fine. |
| 13:25.53 | Deepfriedice | Looks good. |
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| 13:27.00 | Deepfriedice | I'm calling that fixed. Thanks themill & ewew ! |
| 13:27.13 | ewew | Deepfriedice ok. np. |
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| 13:36.21 | debian8xfce | I recently installed debian on my netbook and seems like audio is not working |
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| 13:36.42 | intNULL | I need rt2870.bin |
| 13:36.52 | intNULL | How should I get it? |
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| 13:41.42 | debian8xfce | please, help a newb "( |
| 13:42.05 | themill | intNULL: in the firmware-ralink package |
| 13:42.10 | dvs | !tell debian8xfce about alsa checklist |
| 13:42.38 | debian8xfce | I don't even kno how to diagnose the problem with the audio on linux |
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| 13:44.40 | whynottrytofly | hello |
| 13:44.51 | whynottrytofly | is there a seperate channel for testing unstable branches? =) |
| 13:45.22 | joey_ | cant get to tty2 with debian 8 ctrl alt f2. just black |
| 13:45.29 | joey_ | ? |
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| 13:47.03 | abrotman | whynottrytofly: see /topic |
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| 13:50.10 | joey_ | im trying to kill the display manager for debian 8 |
| 13:51.00 | x86_64 | whynottrytofly, why try to fly? |
| 13:51.02 | x86_64 | :p |
| 13:51.03 | intNULL | Ok, but Ivdownloaded rt2870.bin where should i put it? |
| 13:51.49 | intNULL | I've downloaded* |
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| 13:52.24 | whynottrytofly | x86_64: :P hi there |
| 13:52.36 | joey_ | whats the name of debian display manager |
| 13:52.46 | joey_ | ? |
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| 13:53.08 | whynottrytofly | abrotman: thanks |
| 13:53.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys whats a good filemanager besides nautuilus? |
| 13:53.16 | whynottrytofly | so i have to say goodbye now x86_64 =) |
| 13:53.18 | x86_64 | whynottrytofly, i know everything about you; except your logins, your name, how you look, what you ate, your credentials IRL, what you are doing IRL. |
| 13:53.22 | x86_64 | okay |
| 13:53.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | its freezing on me and i dont want to deal with its BS |
| 13:53.22 | x86_64 | :p |
| 13:53.31 | x86_64 | name = name irl |
| 13:53.32 | x86_64 | :p |
| 13:53.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | start throwing out names ? |
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| 13:54.16 | albert | hi |
| 13:54.17 | Deepfriedice | joey_: There is no " debian display manager" Different DEs use different managers. |
| 13:54.39 | debian8xfce | hey, dvs, how do I remove myself from audio group? |
| 13:54.45 | dvs | intNULL: Huh? There's a package for that: firmware-realtek |
| 13:54.58 | Guest61120 | i want to change a lot of files named Track1.wav, Track2.wav, etc... to Eminem1.wav, Emen2.wav, Eminem3.wav... |
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| 13:55.14 | Guest61120 | which is the command |
| 13:55.15 | Guest61120 | ? |
| 13:55.17 | intNULL | Now I understand nothing |
| 13:55.27 | Guest61120 | i tried using mv it don't worked |
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| 13:55.54 | dvs | debchange: adduser <user> audio |
| 13:55.59 | dvs | as root |
| 13:56.07 | Guest61120 | i want to the prefix of a lot of files, any idea to do it using command line¿? |
| 13:56.15 | debian8xfce | dvs: the bot said to remove self first |
| 13:56.21 | debian8xfce | from that group |
| 13:56.24 | debian8xfce | and re-add it |
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| 13:56.48 | debian8xfce | to add it I googled a solution: 'usermod -a -G [group-name] [user-name]' |
| 13:57.16 | dvs | debian8xfce: That changes ALL your group, not just change one |
| 13:57.43 | Guest61120 | okey thanks for nothing |
| 13:58.11 | Deepfriedice | Guest61120: You could probably just use a for loop and grep |
| 13:58.13 | debian8xfce | dvs: help says -a appends without affecting other groups |
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| 13:58.40 | dvs | oh ok |
| 13:59.20 | themill | Guest61120: prename |
| 13:59.22 | debian8xfce | but help doesn't say how to substract a user from a specific group without affecting other groups |
| 13:59.39 | intNULL | I can't even get debian installed :( |
| 13:59.57 | debian8xfce | intNULL: what's the problem? |
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| 14:00.06 | dvs | !tell intNULL about firmware iso |
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| 14:00.43 | debian8xfce | intNULL: it failed for me once because I tried to install it over an existing fat and gparted (or whatever) failed to re-part it properly |
| 14:01.01 | dvs | debian8xfce: Why are you trying to remove yourself from a group only to add yourself to it again. |
| 14:01.02 | debian8xfce | so it asked for a reboot and then it went smooth |
| 14:01.28 | debian8xfce | dvs that's what dpkg bot told me to do after you told him to tell it to me |
| 14:01.48 | debian8xfce | dvs wants you to know: 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) |
| 14:01.58 | dvs | debian8xfce: (1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) |
| 14:02.18 | debian8xfce | I got it as log from the group and log back into it |
| 14:02.36 | intNULL | So if I use firmware iso it will work? |
| 14:02.54 | dvs | debian8xfce: it means type "logout" and login again by entering your username and password |
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| 14:03.04 | debian8xfce | aw |
| 14:03.07 | debian8xfce | okay |
| 14:03.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | anybody know what the driver is called in debian repo to get my android Filesytem to mount? cause its not even showing up now... |
| 14:03.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | i can see if in lsusb but no /dev/sd?? |
| 14:03.39 | intNULL | dvs: does it have rt2870.bin? |
| 14:03.44 | debian8xfce | typing logout returns an error saying to use exit instead |
| 14:03.56 | dvs | intNULL: it has most of the firmware files. |
| 14:04.02 | intNULL | Ok |
| 14:04.04 | debian8xfce | typing exit just closes the terminal xD |
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| 14:04.36 | intNULL | Is apt-get bad? |
| 14:04.54 | intNULL | I heaed it's bad :/ |
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| 14:05.46 | dvs | intNULL: ???? apt-get is not bad, just different from aptitude. |
| 14:06.24 | intNULL | I meant arch linux user say that pacman > apt-get |
| 14:06.32 | derstrom | It's a matter of opinion. |
| 14:06.57 | intNULL | What do you mean? |
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| 14:08.18 | derstrom | intNULL: Exactly as I said, whether or not you think pacman or apt is better than the other is largely a matter of opinion. |
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| 14:08.59 | intNULL | What's your opinion? |
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| 14:09.07 | kgxx | They both accomplish the same things. They work. |
| 14:09.23 | derstrom | intNULL, I remember you starting these nonsensical discussions before. |
| 14:09.32 | dvs | it's when there's conflicting package where they differ |
| 14:09.35 | intNULL | Where? |
| 14:09.40 | derstrom | in this channel |
| 14:09.51 | isReKT2000 | repos repos |
| 14:09.52 | intNULL | Today? |
| 14:10.13 | themill | intNULL: maybe you should focus on solving your problem |
| 14:10.23 | intNULL | How do I rename in command line? |
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| 14:11.03 | dvs | intNULL: you already got your answer: prename for batch renaming. |
| 14:11.17 | debian8xfce | dvs: could you please re-tell the bot to retell me the steps to fix audio, please? |
| 14:11.31 | debian8xfce | I use webchat as irc client and have no history |
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| 14:11.45 | dvs | debchange: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 14:12.10 | dvs | debian8xfce: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
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| 14:12.42 | debian8xfce | thx |
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| 14:14.59 | xormor | intNULL, mv tiedoston_nimi1 tiedoston_nimi2 |
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| 14:15.15 | debian8xfce | 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) |
| 14:15.19 | debian8xfce | how? |
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| 14:15.45 | intNULL | Thx |
| 14:15.45 | debian8xfce | i ran alsamixer and it's a text pseudo GUI I don't even know how to control |
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| 14:15.51 | intNULL | Xormor: thx |
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| 14:19.05 | intNULL | Do I need a domain name? |
| 14:19.47 | debian8xfce | ok |
| 14:19.50 | dvs | debian8xfce: alsamixergui is better? You may have to install it by apt-get/aptitude |
| 14:20.28 | debian8xfce | dvs I figured out it is controlled via up/down/left/right buttons |
| 14:20.45 | dvs | debian8xfce: and TAB |
| 14:20.49 | debian8xfce | didn't find a button to instantly mute/unmute though |
| 14:20.59 | dvs | debchange: M? |
| 14:22.02 | debian8xfce | dvs: there is 'default' device 'PulseAudio' |
| 14:22.16 | debian8xfce | and another one HDA Intel |
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| 14:22.32 | debian8xfce | Intel looks like a real device |
| 14:22.37 | debian8xfce | while that PulseAudio is something with only 2 vol bars |
| 14:22.43 | dvs | debian8xfce: Ah. I don't use pulseaudio |
| 14:23.03 | linuxuserwannabe | I think intNOLL is a bot |
| 14:23.07 | debian8xfce | maybe I should switch default device from pulseaudio somehow? |
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| 14:24.20 | derstrom | linuxuserwannabe: doubt it |
| 14:24.38 | intNULL | linuxuserwannabe: I think he is a bot too |
| 14:24.50 | derstrom | he's a smart bot, isn't he? |
| 14:25.16 | intNULL | Yeah, but who is intNOLL? |
| 14:26.23 | derstrom | intNULL: Please stop. |
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| 14:27.55 | unborn | is there anyone who understands dnsmasq? I know its a bit out of debian support but have just only one question.. |
| 14:28.00 | debian8xfce | dvs: vlc lists only one device, is it worth looking for a way to switch the default device in alsamixer? |
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| 14:28.31 | debian8xfce | unborn: try asking it on #networking |
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| 14:29.05 | unborn | debian8xfce, cheers |
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| 14:29.32 | debian8xfce | unborn: or ask on #freebsd :) |
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| 14:29.51 | debian8xfce | because freebsd is for networking |
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| 14:30.27 | unborn | debian8xfce, I got everything working.. its just question about ports thats all.. I've already asked there.. thanks |
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| 14:30.58 | debian8xfce | well, you may try to shoot it to me via pm, not sure if I'd be able to answer tho |
| 14:31.23 | unborn | debian8xfce, you may do :) i'll pm you right now.. |
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| 14:32.16 | abrotman | eh, why not ask #dns? |
| 14:32.20 | dvs | debian8xfce: How does vlc list the audio devices? |
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| 14:35.51 | debian8xfce | dvs: built-in audio analogue stereo |
| 14:36.08 | unborn | debian8xfce, Thank you very much! :) |
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| 14:37.09 | debian8xfce | unborn: now you owe me to help with my audio problem :D |
| 14:37.35 | unborn | yay :D debian8xfce what an issue you've got? |
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| 14:37.47 | unborn | if I know how to help, I will meh |
| 14:37.54 | debian8xfce | audio is not working in a freshly installed debian on my netbook |
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| 14:38.02 | debian8xfce | trying vlc as a player |
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| 14:38.20 | unborn | debian8xfce, you may have look on what hw you have in your laptop? |
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| 14:38.49 | unborn | debian8xfce, #~ lspci |
| 14:39.03 | debian8xfce | unborn: alsamixer says it's hda intel card: realtek alc268 |
| 14:39.51 | unborn | debian8xfce, did you seen this? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72727 |
| 14:40.25 | debian8xfce | unborn: lspci says 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 14:40.43 | mtn | debian8xfce, first thing to do: Install and use pavucontrol. Check sound levels and devices in Output and Configuration. |
| 14:41.09 | debian8xfce | mtn isn't alsamixer the same thing? just asking |
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| 14:41.39 | mtn | debian8xfce, no, alsamixer is a low level sound controller, pulse is what most apps are using |
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| 14:41.49 | debian8xfce | ok |
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| 14:42.02 | unborn | mtn, yeah sometimes sound is muted on all outputs.. |
| 14:42.16 | Rephlexie | unborn, ^ |
| 14:42.27 | mtn | unborn, yes, or the wrong device is chosen by default |
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| 14:44.28 | g00se | Fortunately there is less need for Flash now, but i see there's a new player ( flashplugin-nonfree ) available but it seemingly won't install. Anyone noticed that? |
| 14:45.09 | majucarma | hi, I had a look at debian8xfce, did you seen this? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72727 , and the alsa-info script is broken, I found a similar script there: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug |
| 14:46.21 | debian8xfce | mtn: well, I installed it, executed it, toyed around it |
| 14:46.25 | debian8xfce | nothing changes |
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| 14:46.46 | mtn | debian8xfce, checked which device is chosen, too? |
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| 14:48.12 | debian8xfce | mtn: I'm not sure I got pavucontrol's gui right, but as far as I see it, I can't change the chosen device there |
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| 14:49.07 | mtn | debian8xfce, that is odd, there should be a device section in configuration. It is called Profile |
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| 14:49.57 | debian8xfce | mtn: 1st tab or 3rd tab? |
| 14:50.29 | mtn | debian8xfce, the one called: Configuration, on mine, the one on the far right |
| 14:51.51 | debian8xfce | mtn: yeah, I tried analogue stereo output there and analogue stereo duplex |
| 14:52.05 | mtn | debian8xfce, ok, it was worth a try |
| 14:52.40 | mtn | debian8xfce, is this a laptop or desktop? |
| 14:53.04 | mtn | debian8xfce, never mind, I see |
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| 14:53.20 | debian8xfce | majucarma: I read that page but didn't get how is it related to my case: that guy has different laptop and has issues with audio input, while I have problems with audio output |
| 14:53.53 | mtn | debian8xfce, did you do the speaker test while in pavucontrol? did it fail? |
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| 14:54.40 | mtn | debian8xfce, or in your sound settings? |
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| 14:57.00 | debian8xfce | mtn: there's no sound test :I |
| 14:57.33 | mtn | debian8xfce, none in your sound settings, either? I am not on xfce. |
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| 14:59.41 | debian8xfce | mtn: I don't have audio settings at all |
| 14:59.42 | debian8xfce | :D |
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| 15:01.38 | mtn | debian8xfce, that is strange. maybe it is a bad install. which version of debian and how did you make your install disk? |
| 15:01.55 | debian8xfce | majucarma: I don't even have '/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf' file |
| 15:02.09 | debian8xfce | mtn: from official site |
| 15:02.47 | mtn | debian8xfce, sorry, that does not answer either of my questions |
| 15:03.10 | debian8xfce | 1 min, lemme check what iso I used |
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| 15:07.18 | debian8xfce | debian 8.2.0 live i386 |
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| 15:08.13 | mtn | debian8xfce, and what tool did you use to make the live disk? and did sound work on the live disk? |
| 15:09.01 | debian8xfce | I didn't try on live, I used live because I had issues with windows unable to work with network over wifi for no reasons |
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| 15:09.19 | debian8xfce | so I checked just the work of wi-fi |
| 15:09.21 | debian8xfce | it worked fine |
| 15:09.27 | mtn | debian8xfce, still not answering my questions |
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| 15:09.28 | debian8xfce | after that I installed it |
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| 15:09.44 | debian8xfce | the tool I used is the one recommended by freebsd manual |
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| 15:09.48 | debian8xfce | lemme find it |
| 15:10.24 | mtn | debian8xfce, ok, you should download the netinstall disk, not a live disk and use it. do you want to use usb or dvd for your live disk? |
| 15:10.38 | mtn | debian8xfce, install disk, that is |
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| 15:10.50 | debian8xfce | oh god |
| 15:11.20 | debian8xfce | how would I write iso to usb flash from windows? |
| 15:11.33 | mtn | debian8xfce, I can't understand why you would use a freebsd manual to install debian |
| 15:11.45 | debian8xfce | I used a tool |
| 15:12.02 | debian8xfce | because debian site didn't suggest any way to write the iso to flash |
| 15:12.03 | mtn | debian8xfce, use your debian install to do it :) https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 15:12.18 | mtn | debian8xfce, yes it does, I just gave it to you :) |
| 15:12.19 | debian8xfce | I can't, my netbook is only 8gb |
| 15:12.30 | debian8xfce | mtn: that's a manual for non-windows |
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| 15:12.38 | mtn | debian8xfce, the download is small, that is why you use a netinstall |
| 15:12.43 | debian8xfce | I didn't have non-windows at that time |
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| 15:12.52 | debian8xfce | ok |
| 15:12.59 | mtn | !win32diskimager |
| 15:12.59 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 15:13.10 | debian8xfce | yes, that tool |
| 15:13.12 | debian8xfce | I used it |
| 15:13.20 | mtn | debian8xfce, that is for windows, but you can easily use debian, instead |
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| 15:16.48 | debian8xfce | https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#netboot > i386 link leads to > http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
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| 15:16.55 | debian8xfce | where I don't see a single iso |
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| 15:17.08 | somiaj | because netboot isn't an iso, it is a pxe boot |
| 15:17.19 | somiaj | debian8xfce: are you wanting the netinstall (which is different than netboot) |
| 15:17.40 | debian8xfce | oh, I confused those two |
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| 15:18.19 | somiaj | note depending on hardware you may want the non-free netinstall image (many wifi cards require non-free firmware if that is an issue for your hardawre) |
| 15:19.28 | debian8xfce | I dunno, the live distro I used - works fine with my wifi card |
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| 15:22.04 | somiaj | debian8xfce: well if the live distro isn't debian they probabaly ship the non-free firmware with it. This is not unstandard. But debian seperates the non-free firmware from main which means unless you use the non-free firmware you may have to get it. |
| 15:22.36 | debian8xfce | it is debian |
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| 15:24.12 | somiaj | debian8xfce: Well just something I thought I would mention that y ou may need to consider. Note debian does provided non-free live images too. |
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| 15:25.34 | mtn | somiaj, his problem is no sound after install. intel sound card and he says no sound settings. he used alsamixer and pauvcontrol to try to get sound working |
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| 15:26.46 | abrotman | more than one card? |
| 15:26.49 | debian8xfce | thx, somiaj |
| 15:26.53 | dvs | speaker-test -t wav -c 2 |
| 15:27.09 | dvs | abrotman: pulseaudio |
| 15:27.15 | debian8xfce | oh god, I so hate those fucking manuals that suggest stuff that doesn't work |
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| 15:27.36 | debian8xfce | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en 4.3.1: # cp debian.iso /dev/sdX |
| 15:27.52 | dvs | and you put the actual "X".... |
| 15:27.52 | mtn | debian8xfce, that does work, I have done it many times |
| 15:28.02 | mtn | heh |
| 15:28.08 | debian8xfce | sure thing, cp: unable to create a normal file /dev/sdb: access denied |
| 15:28.19 | debian8xfce | okay, tried /dev/sdb1 either |
| 15:28.19 | dvs | as root |
| 15:28.21 | debian8xfce | same result |
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| 15:28.31 | asarch | ,kernel |
| 15:28.32 | intNULL | Ok, how do I get root acess? |
| 15:28.33 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-trunk-686-pae (4.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u6) |
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| 15:28.48 | asarch | Wow! 4.2.0! \o/ |
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| 15:29.16 | intNULL | How do I add user to sudo group? |
| 15:29.20 | Guest61120 | exit |
| 15:29.27 | debian8xfce | intNULL: just use su instead |
| 15:29.41 | debian8xfce | or man |
| 15:29.58 | intNULL | I don't wanna become su everytime I need to install something |
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| 15:30.06 | debian8xfce | then man |
| 15:30.18 | mtn | intNULL, or use synaptic |
| 15:30.24 | debian8xfce | or just use root |
| 15:30.33 | dvs | gives up on that bot intNULL |
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| 15:30.39 | towo` | intNULL, if you want a erverytime admin, you should install windows |
| 15:31.59 | debian8xfce | do I need to run other steps other thatn 4.3.1 in that manual? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 15:32.36 | debian8xfce | because they don't explicitly mention what steps are alternative to which ones |
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| 15:32.56 | debian8xfce | and I'd say writing an iso to a drive should be just enough |
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| 15:34.49 | debian8xfce | ok, I'll just try to boot from it now |
| 15:35.00 | intNULL | How do I install Firefox |
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| 15:36.21 | somiaj | intNULL: apt-get install iceweasel (name of the package in debian) |
| 15:36.24 | die7 | is there any plans to start to improve debian installer and provide flexible install opportunities like : install on SSD, IDE, SDC etc with possible performance optimization ??? |
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| 15:38.09 | Brigo | die7, you can ask in #debian-installer, in OFTC network. |
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| 15:38.45 | die7 | off sorry was not aware that chanleln exist, tnx! |
| 15:39.23 | Brigo | die7, np :) |
| 15:41.36 | varesa | I installed debian 8 in VM, how do I install things like git or puppet? |
| 15:41.58 | varesa | I try "apt-get update && apt-get install git" or git-core |
| 15:43.04 | markybob | verboese, and? |
| 15:43.12 | varesa | 'git' is not available. 'git-core' has no installation candidate |
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| 15:43.30 | markybob | ,v git |
| 15:43.31 | judd | Package: git on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1; stretch: 1:2.6.2-1; sid: 1:2.6.2-1; experimental: 1:2.6.2+next.20151022-1 |
| 15:44.10 | markybob | varesa, your sources.list is probably messed up. pastbin it |
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| 15:45.04 | somiaj | varesa: sounds like you dno't have complete sources. Care to share the output of apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net (or your sources.list as markybob suggested) |
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| 15:47.25 | varesa | markybob: somiaj: http://i.imgur.com/8Re5Q0W.png |
| 15:47.47 | markybob | varesa, right, you only have updates and not the main one |
| 15:48.20 | dvs | !sources.list |
| 15:48.20 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 15:53.02 | majucarma | debian8xfce: what is your laptop model ? |
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| 15:54.51 | varesa | markybob, somiaj, dvs thanks |
| 15:55.24 | pial | is there a way to stack multiple windows of same program in Mate Desktop? |
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| 16:10.25 | swift110-phone | ##Debian |
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| 16:16.20 | higgsboson | hello everyone, I am having a trouble with the filesystem of my partition. I applied some procedures, but I'm not sure if I did the correct thing. could you maybe help me know if I told you what I did? |
| 16:16.39 | ewew | !ask |
| 16:16.40 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:28.37 | pial | I am installing codeblocks ide from multiple deb files. they depend on each other. There is probably a circular dependency. |
| 16:28.41 | pial | dpkg can't configure it. apt-get install -f removes everything. how do i solve it? |
| 16:28.42 | dpkg | pial: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 16:29.55 | jelly | pial: show the complete output of your installation attempt, and of "aptitude -f install" run after that |
| 16:30.00 | Brigo | pial, where do you get those packages? |
| 16:30.16 | pial | Brigo, from codeblocks website |
| 16:30.19 | jelly | pial: put everything in a single post on paste.debian.net |
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| 16:30.43 | Brigo | pial, what's wrong with debian ones? |
| 16:30.51 | jelly | ,v codeblocks |
| 16:30.52 | judd | Package: codeblocks on amd64 -- wheezy: 10.05-2.1; jessie-backports: 13.12-3.1~bpo8+1; sid: 13.12+dfsg-4; stretch: 13.12+dfsg-4 |
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| 16:31.57 | pial | Brigo, it didn't come to mind. always used it after downloading it. |
| 16:31.59 | jelly | dpkg, tell pial about jessie-backports |
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| 16:35.56 | pial | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/332809/ |
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| 16:36.56 | jelly | ,v libwxbase2.8-0 |
| 16:36.57 | judd | Package: libwxbase2.8-0 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.8.10.1-3+b1; wheezy: 2.8.12.1-12; sid: 2.8.12.1+dfsg2-2; jessie-multimedia: 2.8.12.1+dfsg2-dmo4; sid-multimedia: 1:2.8.12.1-dmo1 |
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| 16:37.28 | jelly | pial: those packages are not designed to work on debian 8 |
| 16:38.14 | pial | jelly, what to do then? |
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| 16:38.36 | pial | back-ports? |
| 16:38.39 | jelly | pial: use the build from jessie-backports |
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| 16:40.02 | jelly | pial: if the vendor states their packages work on Debian 8, show them this aptitude output and tell there are missing dependencies and their packages are uninstallable. |
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| 16:43.13 | paule32 | hello |
| 16:43.19 | paule32 | squid3 is running |
| 16:43.35 | paule32 | but it doesn't block sites |
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| 16:44.03 | paule32 | i want to create a mysql database with blocked sites |
| 16:44.16 | paule32 | therefore i have a script |
| 16:44.25 | paule32 | but it doesn't work |
| 16:44.31 | paule32 | only on console |
| 16:44.32 | pial | jelly,seems they did not mention the version of debian. aw, it is 2 years old build. i didn't see that. |
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| 16:44.35 | paule32 | http://pastebin.com/QWngiWrh |
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| 16:47.40 | anikras | how I can create a process with 100% of CPU ? |
| 16:47.56 | jelly | anikras: stupid way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null |
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| 16:48.30 | jelly | anikras: that will only use up to 100% of a single core. |
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| 16:48.41 | anikras | ok, thanks |
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| 16:54.10 | randomuser123 | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-8126 |
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| 17:05.00 | Akuw | hi, i have a I3 laptop and need to update kernel |
| 17:05.20 | Akuw | using aptitude search linux-image i get linux-image-3.16.0-4-586 |
| 17:05.24 | Akuw | can i use that ? |
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| 17:06.29 | markybob | Akuw, sure. you can also use amd64 kernels on that |
| 17:06.37 | jelly | Akuw: does "grep -q '\blm\b' /proc/cpuinfo && echo you have a 64bit cpu" say you have a 64bit cpu? |
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| 17:10.59 | debian8xfce | you were right: installing debian from a network install fixed the audio issue |
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| 17:12.02 | debian8xfce | unfortunately, I have no irc chat log |
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| 17:12.25 | debian8xfce | someone here adviced me something like nologin or something |
| 17:12.48 | debian8xfce | a DE that doesn't ask for login/password every time |
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| 17:13.37 | jhutchins | debian8xfce: Most of them can be set up to auto-login. |
| 17:14.30 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 17:14.31 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-trunk-686-pae (4.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u6) |
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| 17:14.48 | debian8xfce | nah, just a dm |
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| 17:16.11 | Akuw | actually in my boot i have vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae |
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| 17:18.50 | ewew | debian8xfce Why you want to disable password ? |
| 17:19.10 | Akuw | i just installed new kernel but when do uname -r i see same version |
| 17:20.01 | debian8xfce | ewew: I dunno how :o |
| 17:20.20 | debian8xfce | I don't even know what's my current dm |
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| 17:21.14 | abrotman | Akuw: that's the kernel abi version |
| 17:21.20 | DJ_Bitcon | how to get rid of cached ram memory ? When a process has left using RAM, it is still showed as 'used' in free -m |
| 17:21.34 | abrotman | DJ_Bitcon: nothing wrong with that |
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| 17:21.44 | abrotman | DJ_Bitcon: the OS will clean up when it needs space |
| 17:21.50 | pial | debian8xfce, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager - to check default dm |
| 17:21.55 | Akuw | abrotman: the last kernel was installed using aptitude, how can i activate it |
| 17:21.58 | [nrg] | Hi |
| 17:21.59 | ewew | We should hide some info from the user.:) |
| 17:22.08 | markybob | Akuw, you did reboot, right? |
| 17:22.12 | DJ_Bitcon | abrotman, but how do i see the real used amount then ? |
| 17:22.23 | abrotman | dpkg: tell DJ_Bitcon about free ram |
| 17:22.25 | Akuw | markybob : no |
| 17:22.33 | SpeccyMan | lol |
| 17:22.34 | markybob | Akuw, well..you need to |
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| 17:22.45 | Akuw | ok |
| 17:22.51 | debian8xfce | lightdm |
| 17:23.29 | pial | ok, i am giving you the commands for auto login. |
| 17:23.33 | markybob | debian8xfce, sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --autologin username |
| 17:24.21 | debian8xfce | markybob: man says /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf |
| 17:24.25 | debian8xfce | but thanks |
| 17:24.40 | markybob | debian8xfce, either way works. set default just does it for you |
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| 17:25.09 | DJ_Bitcon | abrotman, thanks :) |
| 17:25.20 | jhutchins | !free memory |
| 17:25.21 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
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| 17:26.40 | JyZyXEL | i saved gigabytes of memory by going from adblock plus to ublock origin |
| 17:27.06 | debian8xfce | JyZyXEL: ab+ is easier |
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| 17:27.39 | debian8xfce | + afaik recently were the optimizations in both ab+ and fx required for ab+ eat much less resources |
| 17:27.41 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jhutchins about botttell |
| 17:27.45 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jhutchins about bottell |
| 17:28.11 | abrotman | maybe if he didn't have me on /ig, he would see that he's just being silly |
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| 17:29.00 | pial | debian8xfce, here is how i configured auto login. i didn't know the one liner :p. http://paste.debian.net/332838/ |
| 17:29.14 | pial | gotta collect it. |
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| 17:31.59 | debian8xfce | pial: thx, but I used this man: https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM seems official |
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| 17:34.52 | pial | debian8xfce, no problem. |
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| 17:41.34 | debian8xfce | damn, I miss the irc log :( |
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| 17:43.03 | ButaTine | Greetings, I am new to clean debian, having only used various *buntu distros before, can someone explain a little how the debian repo system works? |
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| 17:45.46 | debian8xfce | dpkg: -remove vs -Purge |
| 17:45.47 | dpkg | debian8xfce: are you using Windows? |
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| 17:46.02 | debian8xfce | kek |
| 17:46.08 | debian8xfce | that's a bot's name |
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| 17:48.25 | jelly | ButaTine: hmm. Read https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html#idm139736411144480 and https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive#s-sections perhaps |
| 17:48.39 | ButaTine | Ok, thanks. |
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| 17:49.39 | ButaTine | jelly, does debian have any form of GUI package store, like Ubuntu's software center? |
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| 17:49.55 | ButaTine | I've just installed 8.2 on a vm here |
| 17:51.02 | jelly | ButaTine: no store, not really. There are GUI-based package managers like synaptic. |
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| 17:51.41 | ButaTine | jelly, searchable? |
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| 17:55.16 | jelly | ButaTine: honestly no idea. I use "apt-cache search stuff" from command line |
| 17:55.38 | ButaTine | ok, I should really become more apt at the commandline |
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| 17:56.52 | ButaTine | hmm, I wonder, does the precompiled version of gromacs support CUDA? |
| 17:57.04 | ButaTine | probably not, I'll need to talk to the gromacs guys |
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| 18:59.43 | Akuw | i installed last kernel version using aptitude, but aptitude search show ---> pi linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae - Linux 3.16 for modern PCs |
| 19:00.35 | rbazaud | «Also in GROMACS 4.6, we have excellent CUDA-based GPU acceleration on GPUs that have Nvidia compute capability >= 2.0 (e.g. Fermi or Kepler)» |
| 19:01.04 | rbazaud | From http://www.gromacs.org/About_Gromacs |
| 19:01.12 | somiaj | Akuw: by latest kernel, do you mean the one from jessie-backports? |
| 19:01.25 | Akuw | no official |
| 19:01.28 | rbazaud | That said I didnât even know that existed (Gromacs, not CUDA) |
| 19:01.33 | Akuw | main |
| 19:02.00 | Guest33600 | Hi, |
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| 19:02.36 | Guest33600 | someone has debian testing with clasic gnome? |
| 19:02.53 | Guest33600 | this bar down my gray since last update |
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| 19:04.56 | somiaj | Guest33600: what do you mean by classic gnome? I though gnome took away fallback/clasic mode? |
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| 19:05.06 | Guest33600 | somiaj, yes |
| 19:05.12 | johnkeates | he means the garden gnome outside ;) |
| 19:05.32 | somiaj | Akuw: did it install a different kernel. Maybe paste the output of 'aptitude search ~ilinux-image' and 'uname -a' |
| 19:05.35 | somiaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.35 | johnkeates | also, are you sure you don't mean MATE? that gnome2 fork? |
| 19:06.01 | Guest33600 | somiaj, you know how to remove the gray bar below? |
| 19:06.05 | Akuw | Linux wiki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:06.08 | somiaj | johnkeates: that was what I was getting at. classic gnome I thought was removed from gnome as they don't have fallback/clasic mode included anymore |
| 19:06.24 | johnkeates | yep |
| 19:06.37 | johnkeates | unless he's on wheezy, or pre-wheezy or something |
| 19:06.43 | somiaj | Akuw: that looks wheezy. |
| 19:06.43 | Akuw | id linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Linux 3.2 for modern PCs |
| 19:06.46 | somiaj | johnkeates: nope he is on testing |
| 19:07.02 | johnkeates | hmm |
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| 19:07.11 | johnkeates | conflicting information, that is |
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| 19:08.07 | somiaj | Guest33600: I personally don't use gnome so I can't be of much help. In testing if you find a bug you should check the BTS first |
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| 19:08.41 | Guest33600 | BTS? |
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| 19:09.02 | Guest33600 | ah ok |
| 19:09.25 | HD|Laptop | I have two keyboards (one real, one "virtual" provided by my IR remote reciever) in /dev/input/event{1,2} |
| 19:09.45 | HD|Laptop | Now, I parse /dev/input/event2 by hand in my own daemon, but the keypresses show up on the console |
| 19:09.48 | HD|Laptop | How do I prevent this? |
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| 19:19.18 | paule32 | can someone assitst me to tune squid? |
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| 19:23.00 | paule32 | http://pastebin.com/2VJAJhig |
| 19:23.28 | paule32 | here the actual config |
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| 19:26.12 | paule32 | squid runs, and logs access |
| 19:26.28 | paule32 | but i can't block sites with the external helper |
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| 19:27.30 | rodolforg | latest version of nvidia driver package keeps freezing my desktop :/ |
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| 19:29.32 | majestiic | rodolforg Well roll back a version then? |
| 19:29.44 | rodolforg | majestiic: how can I do that? |
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| 19:29.53 | paule32 | hi |
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| 19:31.47 | abrotman | paule32: have you asked the squid channel? |
| 19:32.13 | paule32 | abrotman: there is nobody wake |
| 19:32.18 | abrotman | okay .... |
| 19:32.49 | majestiic | rodolforg I believe you can type "Nameofdrive --uninstall" e.g: "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-310.19.run --uninstall" |
| 19:32.55 | abrotman | When I had to do a proxy, I used dansguardian on top of squid |
| 19:33.22 | paule32 | i will not use ot, yet |
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| 19:34.38 | paule32 | i want use helper |
| 19:34.48 | paule32 | this help should be do some things |
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| 19:35.30 | paule32 | that is, what i need, at the moment |
| 19:37.26 | paule32 | abrotman: that is the config: http://pastebin.com/2VJAJhig |
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| 19:38.01 | paule32 | abrotman: that is the script: http://pastebin.com/u1g9GvRP |
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| 19:41.50 | abrotman | paule32: I've not done what you're trying to do |
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| 19:42.15 | paule32 | abrotman: i work with debian jessie 8.2 |
| 19:42.50 | paule32 | abrotman: i want filter content (squid can not it) |
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| 19:43.01 | debian8xfce | is anyone familiar much with smb? |
| 19:43.05 | paule32 | abrotman: i want block websites |
| 19:43.09 | johnkeates | i am |
| 19:43.13 | abrotman | Yeah, I got that ... |
| 19:43.20 | debian8xfce | all mans suggest to use smb://host/share |
| 19:43.30 | abrotman | paule32: again, I've not done what you're trying to do. Does the script work outside of Squid? |
| 19:43.37 | paule32 | abrotman: then i try to skip content |
| 19:43.42 | debian8xfce | but what if I want to see the list of available shares on a host? |
| 19:43.53 | paule32 | abrotman: yes, of course |
| 19:44.30 | johnkeates | abrotman: commandline or guy? gui -> network neighbourhood, cli: any of the smb* commands |
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| 19:45.15 | debian8xfce | johnkeates: you probably meant to reply that to me, right? |
| 19:45.48 | debian8xfce | gui: (thunar) > network neighborhood results into an error |
| 19:46.30 | debian8xfce | 'failed to open '/ on ': the specified address is not supported |
| 19:46.55 | abrotman | johnkeates: not lookikng for help with SMB |
| 19:46.58 | debian8xfce | I installed gigolo, gvfs, smbclient and samba |
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| 19:49.39 | debian8xfce | I've read a few mans, none seem to work: 'sudo smbpasswd -a local' results into two password prompts for that user and then it says 'Failed to add entry for user local.' |
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| 19:50.28 | DJ_Bitcon | is it possible to install mysql server 5.1 on jessie? |
| 19:50.46 | DJ_Bitcon | i need this version because i have an old database from squeeze |
| 19:51.10 | abrotman | You should be able to upgrade them if you do it the right way ... |
| 19:51.31 | abrotman | (alternately, you can dump the DB as statements, reinsert them, no?) |
| 19:51.36 | DJ_Bitcon | it's possible only by installing mysql 5.1 first i think |
| 19:51.48 | DJ_Bitcon | to run this db there and dump it |
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| 19:52.19 | DJ_Bitcon | i am afraid if i launch database file on mysql 5.5 it is going to conflict |
| 19:52.24 | DJ_Bitcon | had this experience already |
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| 19:56.36 | debian8xfce | should smbclient output anything? |
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| 19:57.15 | debian8xfce | because 'smbclient //host/ -U local' outputs nothing |
| 19:57.29 | markybob | DJ_Bitcon, Upgrading one release level is supported. For example, upgrading from 5.1 to 5.5 is supported |
| 19:57.40 | markybob | DJ_Bitcon, https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/upgrading.html |
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| 19:57.59 | debian8xfce | .msg dpkg samba |
| 19:58.13 | DJ_Bitcon | i had a 5.1 db from squeeze previously that i ran on 5.5, it got all f'd up |
| 19:58.30 | DJ_Bitcon | so probably supported with some issues :) |
| 19:58.34 | markybob | DJ_Bitcon, just back it up before you mess with it |
| 19:59.16 | markybob | DJ_Bitcon, you're not really giving us an error/problem to help you with. |
| 19:59.40 | DJ_Bitcon | the original question was: is it possible to install mysql server 5.1 on jessie? |
| 19:59.55 | DJ_Bitcon | so i just wanted a yes/no answer basically |
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| 20:00.23 | abrotman | Not from packages |
| 20:00.25 | markybob | DJ_Bitcon, yes. but you need to get the old squeeze package and manually build it. |
| 20:00.35 | DJ_Bitcon | thank you |
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| 20:06.31 | Yoshy | My system doesnt boot, its a nvidia driver issue. reconfigure helped before but this time it still doesnt work. what can i do / |
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| 20:10.57 | debian8xfce | connection to server failed (error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL) |
| 20:11.09 | debian8xfce | any clues why? |
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| 20:11.54 | majestiic | Yoshy What do you mean by "not boot"? |
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| 20:15.50 | Yoshy | majestiic: i mean i get a black screen when i power on the computer |
| 20:16.00 | debian8xfce | debug level = 10 shows: lp_servicenumber: couldn't find homes |
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| 20:16.17 | majestiic | Yoshy use the integrated graphics card in the motherboard then |
| 20:16.30 | majestiic | It probably uses VGA |
| 20:16.40 | Yoshy | majestiic: how exactly would i do that ? |
| 20:17.02 | majestiic | Yoshy plug your montior cable into the VGA/DVI slot in the motherboard |
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| 20:17.11 | debian8xfce | !paste |
| 20:17.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 20:17.19 | Yoshy | majestiic: its a laptop |
| 20:17.51 | debian8xfce | debug log: http://paste.debian.net/332885/ |
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| 20:18.13 | majestiic | Yoshy If you boot it up and have a black screen have you made it possible to login to it via SSH clients? |
| 20:19.00 | Yoshy | majestiic: i doont have a second computer to ssh. i can however log into safe mode |
| 20:19.36 | debian8xfce | use ur mobile phone as an ssh client |
| 20:19.42 | majestiic | Yoshy so you can access the terminal? |
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| 20:20.06 | Yoshy | majestiic: yes, in safemode i can get a terminal |
| 20:21.03 | majestiic | Yoshy Earlier another guy kinda had a similar problem, I told him to uninstall the current driver and install a previous one and so by typing "Nameofdriver --uninstall" e.g if your driver name is like this: "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-310.19.run --uninstall" |
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| 20:22.12 | Yoshy | majestiic: and it worked for him ? |
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| 20:23.08 | majestiic | Yoshy I do not know in theory you only uninstall the current driver and after that you would have to install an earlier driver version preferably the one that worked earlier for you. I do not see why that would be a problem or not work. |
| 20:23.25 | majestiic | There should be a "," after "I do not know" |
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| 20:26.26 | majestiic | Yoshy "apt-get purge nvidia-current" Could also work to uninstall the latest driver but Im not sure as I have never tried that before. There is probably someone else here that knows alot more about this than me. |
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| 20:27.22 | Akuw | i am getting this W: GPG error: http://www.apache.org 21x InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 749D6EEC0353B12C |
| 20:27.31 | Akuw | when try to apt-get update |
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| 20:28.00 | ewew | Akuw First you must find pub key of apache and then import it with apt-key. |
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| 20:29.25 | markybob | Akuw, install the keys listed here https://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/DebianPackaging |
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| 20:37.35 | timothywcrane | I have a fully encrypted multiple partition drive (standard Luks install) and would rather not have to repartition, but I am getting gnome notifications of full disk space (or running low). Disk management says I am only using 35% of the partition /usr (the one now notifying). Is this a notification bug anyone knows of? |
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| 20:42.40 | Akuw | i did it but i still get same W: GPG error: http://www.apache.org 21x InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 749D6EEC0353B12C |
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| 20:43.21 | markybob | Akuw, after importing did you apt-get update? |
| 20:43.27 | Akuw | yes |
| 20:43.51 | markybob | Akuw, https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/KEYS or go ask them |
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| 20:53.15 | fiffen | huhu :D |
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| 20:53.35 | fiffen | is debian good enough for games or i am bad gamer ?:D |
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| 20:55.58 | zinx | fiffen: i use it for games. but you need a decent nVidia card, proprietary drivers, and games with decent ports, for modern games... |
| 20:56.32 | Yoshy | My system gives me a black screen when i try to boot up |
| 20:57.04 | zinx | sounds like a major problem if it's not headless |
| 20:57.05 | kikuk | hello .. anyone can help me,about PCI problem in kali 2.0 |
| 20:57.17 | markybob | kikuk, no |
| 20:57.21 | markybob | !kali |
| 20:57.21 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 20:57.51 | kikuk | i see .. thanks markybob xD |
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| 20:59.01 | gnat_x | hi folks. i'm working on building out a debian based router, and the only missing piece is QoS. the network is broken into several subnets, each on a different interface. i want to do very basic priority stacking, so for instance the public wifi subnet should have lower priority than the voip phone subnet. i'm having trouble finding good documentation on that sort of thing. anyone know of any, or have existing scripts i could look at for inspiration |
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| 21:03.22 | timothywcrane | Yoshy try CTRL+ALT F2 |
| 21:03.36 | timothywcrane | could just be X |
| 21:03.56 | timothywcrane | this should take you to a console |
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| 21:05.46 | fiffen | theat fagot kali |
| 21:06.03 | fiffen | i hope they work better in publicitie :D |
| 21:06.11 | fiffen | like Nexus and |
| 21:06.12 | fiffen | etc... |
| 21:06.13 | fiffen | :D |
| 21:06.26 | bind | small question ... I currently have a laptop with uefi and linux installed ... now I would like to try out debian on that laptop without messing up the current installation but I want to see how well it runs on the hardware in question |
| 21:06.40 | bind | could I just pull out the harddrive and put in another one? |
| 21:06.40 | fiffen | hmmm |
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| 21:06.46 | fiffen | try a usbflash |
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| 21:07.09 | fiffen | linux.img to win32image.exe |
| 21:07.26 | bind | well with regular bios that was no problem ... but I have no idea if it will work without problems with uefi :) |
| 21:07.31 | GGWP | Hello guys I don't know if I'm at the right place but I'm kinda new to the Debian scene, I've just installed Debian Cinnamon 8 but it seems like I can't adjust my screen brightness, anyone can help me out? |
| 21:07.47 | bind | fiffen: you mean live usb ? |
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| 21:09.24 | abrotman | fiffen: There's no reason for that kind of language, please take a timeout |
| 21:09.54 | Yoshy | timothywcrane: and after i'd get a console, what |
| 21:09.56 | timothywcrane | I run 7.9 in UEFI on an HP laptop, does just fine |
| 21:10.35 | GGWP | Else can anyone point me at another IRC channel where i might can get some help? |
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| 21:10.52 | timothywcrane | just make sure to choose UEFI as install boot image option at the beginning |
| 21:11.18 | B[]rG | ol |
| 21:11.19 | bind | haha abrotman |
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| 21:12.08 | debian8xfce | so I figured it out why sambaclient doesn't work: because smbpasswd doesn't |
| 21:12.21 | abrotman | bind: not funny? |
| 21:12.23 | bind | timothywcrane: I currently have a working installation based on uefi :) that is not the problem ... I am just wondering if it will be alright if I put in a new/empty hdd |
| 21:12.29 | bind | abrotman: it was :) |
| 21:12.31 | abrotman | no |
| 21:12.39 | johnkeates | it was |
| 21:12.43 | johnkeates | 2v1 we win |
| 21:12.46 | abrotman | GGWP: what have you tried? |
| 21:13.00 | abrotman | GGWP: Presume this is a laptop? |
| 21:13.11 | bind | timothywcrane: just dont want to mess with the current install i have |
| 21:13.13 | markybob | i don't think it was funny |
| 21:13.16 | johnkeates | GGWP: does it have hardware brightness keys? |
| 21:13.39 | bind | timothywcrane: and I think uefi is about also keeping a list of installations within the laptop hardware? |
| 21:13.44 | johnkeates | GGWP: often, laptops have brightness controls, and often they are done by the EC, which sometimes requires additional drivers to allow OS or ACPI brightness control |
| 21:13.47 | GGWP | abrotman: Yes I'm sitting on a laptop from 2010, brand is wierd, called VisionComputer and i've tried installing a thing called Brightness but it didn't do anything |
| 21:13.48 | timothywcrane | if you have a console.. try startx... what happens? |
| 21:14.01 | bind | timothywcrane: could be mistaken of course haha |
| 21:14.06 | abrotman | GGWP: the buttons don't do anything? tried xbacklight ? |
| 21:14.08 | GGWP | johnkeates: I'm using an old keboard with no FN because the one in the laptop is broken can't use it |
| 21:14.25 | GGWP | abrotman: I don't think I've tried xbacklight |
| 21:14.29 | timothywcrane | bind... you just want a parallel drive? |
| 21:15.04 | bind | timothywcrane: yeah I want to test drive debian on the laptop hardware but then on a fresh drive (replacing the current one) |
| 21:15.18 | timothywcrane | what about a livecd? |
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| 21:15.40 | johnkeates | if the laptop has hardware brightness keys, it usually has EC and BIOS and firmware to only do proper brightness control if the OS does special ACPI voodoo |
| 21:15.49 | bind | timothywcrane: I always get the impression that the live-cd does not behave exactly (wrt drivers) as the linux that is getting installed |
| 21:16.15 | markybob | and live doesn't support uefi, so there's that. |
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| 21:16.54 | bind | timothywcrane: dont know why ... but a lot of times when I tried a livecd ... the livecd was working fine ... but once I installed that thing not all modules were loaded or whatever else and it didnt work out as expected (2+ years ago was the last distrohopping saga) |
| 21:16.56 | GGWP | abrotman: Probably asking stupid is xbacklight an apt-get ? |
| 21:17.06 | abrotman | judd: versions xbacklight |
| 21:17.07 | judd | Package: xbacklight on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.1.1-1; wheezy: 1.1.2-1; jessie: 1.2.1-1; sid: 1.2.1-1; stretch: 1.2.1-1 |
| 21:18.33 | GGWP | I don't quite follow you now. |
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| 21:18.57 | markybob | GGWP, sudo apt-get install xbacklight |
| 21:19.00 | bind | markybob: does not work? I remember indeed that I had to fiddle around within the settings of my laptop in order to be able to install the current os |
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| 21:19.19 | GGWP | markybob: Okay and then what? |
| 21:19.31 | markybob | bind, correct. you need to enable legacy mode in bios if you want to install via live |
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| 21:19.46 | markybob | GGWP, then man backlight |
| 21:19.55 | markybob | xbacklight* |
| 21:20.04 | GGWP | welp i'm such an idiot |
| 21:20.10 | timothywcrane | just go into bios and adjust secure boot and uefi options... |
| 21:20.40 | timothywcrane | before loading image |
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| 21:20.48 | markybob | timothywcrane, a lot of bios' don't have such options |
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| 21:23.10 | bind | ok |
| 21:23.34 | bind | and then ... it will just work? I mean ... when I installed debian on the fresh drive |
| 21:23.40 | bind | i can switch them back? |
| 21:23.47 | bind | when I would like to? |
| 21:23.48 | markybob | bind, yes |
| 21:23.53 | bind | great |
| 21:23.54 | timothywcrane | yep |
| 21:24.10 | bind | thank you :) |
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| 21:28.00 | debian8xfce | halp |
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| 21:28.46 | debian8xfce | 'smbpasswd -a local' fails: it just shows the 'help' info |
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| 21:28.58 | Akuw | i installed new kernel, but how i can load it ? |
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| 21:30.36 | GGWP | Now I've tried xbacklight and it won't decrease anything. |
| 21:30.54 | Somelauw | Is it normal that on the stable version of the live iso of debian, the desktop item is called "Install SID" instead of "Install Stable"? |
| 21:31.35 | GGWP | I've tried xbacklight -dec 1, 10, 40 and 100 doens't do anything |
| 21:31.47 | abrotman | GGWP: it was just a suggestion .. |
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| 21:31.56 | abrotman | GGWP: what happens when you try the laptop brightnesss buttons? |
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| 21:32.00 | Somelauw | I mean just wondering if I downloaded the right version. |
| 21:32.11 | GGWP | abrotman: I also tried it, and again my kb is broken i can't use them |
| 21:32.13 | johnkeates | abrotman: he can't he broke the fn key |
| 21:32.20 | abrotman | uhm .. |
| 21:32.25 | GGWP | johnkeates: no, the entire laptop keyboard is broken |
| 21:32.34 | johnkeates | that's just as bad :d |
| 21:32.49 | GGWP | Yeah and I'm not spending money on this old junk, when I'm buying a new one soon |
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| 21:33.06 | johnkeates | anyway, if the EC doesn't pass brightness controls via ACPI or a known secret interface you can't do it from the OS |
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| 21:33.18 | Somelauw | but linux kernel 3.16 is very old, so that suggests that it's stable |
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| 21:34.26 | GGWP | well i'll cont my search on a method thanks guys |
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| 21:34.38 | debian8xfce | please, help me :( |
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| 21:36.20 | Akuw | i am getting GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured |
| 21:37.30 | rohieb | uh. I just got "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unknown user 'minidlna' in statoverride file", and I fixed it by editing /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride appropriately. but any clues what this statoverride is, and why it contains minidlna, which I purged a long time ago? |
| 21:37.40 | jelly | dpkg, tell Akuw about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 21:37.41 | debian8xfce | 'smbpasswd -a local' fails: it just shows the 'help' info for smbpasswd |
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| 21:38.09 | debian8xfce | dpkg tell me about smbpasswd issues |
| 21:38.10 | jelly | rohieb: minidlna package was buggy and left cruft |
| 21:38.22 | rohieb | jelly: ok, that would explain it :D |
| 21:38.45 | jelly | mediatomb is slightly less buggy |
| 21:39.00 | jelly | (only slightly) |
| 21:39.00 | timothywcrane | rohieb can you apt-get autoremove or apt-get install -f? |
| 21:39.04 | debian8xfce | everything is buggy |
| 21:39.23 | debian8xfce | I'm already regretting I switched from windoze |
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| 21:39.55 | markybob | debian8xfce, is the user a full linux system user or just samba? |
| 21:40.17 | debian8xfce | markybob: as all mans suggest: just a generic samba user |
| 21:40.40 | markybob | debian8xfce, then it won't work. the man page clearly says "Note that the default passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd), else the request to add the user will fail." |
| 21:40.47 | markybob | debian8xfce, that's for -a |
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| 21:41.20 | rohieb | timothywcrane: everything was okay again after useradd minidlna :) it happened when I apt-get install'ed libjack-jackd2-dev, which conflicted with libjack0 because it wanted to install libjack-jackd2-0 |
| 21:41.27 | debian8xfce | wait, on windows I can specify domain/user |
| 21:41.35 | debian8xfce | and thus use server's user |
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| 21:41.49 | markybob | debian8xfce, correct |
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| 21:41.54 | debian8xfce | (the one created on server) to get samba access |
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| 21:42.23 | rohieb | ...so dpkg conplained after removing libjack0 and now I'm solving dep conflicts in aptitude, I think I'll get this sorted out :) |
| 21:42.30 | debian8xfce | if linux requires to create a user first - does it mean it won't be able to login using server's user? |
| 21:43.01 | ewew | debian8xfce It has disabled login. |
| 21:43.26 | debian8xfce | what is a 'disabled login'? |
| 21:43.45 | secret | login without password |
| 21:43.47 | Akuw | http://paste.debian.net/332898/ |
| 21:44.00 | debian8xfce | I thought you meant that I have to 'smbpasswd -e' |
| 21:44.40 | debian8xfce | then I'm even more confused: who has a disabled login? |
| 21:44.43 | ewew | debian8xfce This are two separate things. |
| 21:45.16 | ewew | debian8xfce smbpasswd has its own user/password file. Independent of systems. |
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| 21:45.44 | debian8xfce | but markybob said "the man page clearly says "Note that the default passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd), else the request to add the user will fail."" |
| 21:45.53 | ompaul | Akuw: what are you trying to install on? |
| 21:46.07 | markybob | debian8xfce, not just me. https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages/smbpasswd.8.html |
| 21:46.12 | ewew | debian8xfce Not sure. I dont know samba in deep. |
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| 21:46.40 | jelly | Akuw: interesting. You have unfinished package upgrades or installations. |
| 21:46.54 | ewew | debian8xfce I used it long time ago. Now i dont need it, because i dont have win machines. |
| 21:47.09 | abrotman | ewew: then maybe you shouldn't answer or get involved? |
| 21:47.13 | jelly | Akuw: run "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get -f install" (as root) |
| 21:47.39 | jelly | Akuw: if there are errors, add the commands and their outputs to the paste. |
| 21:47.58 | debian8xfce | ewew: ok, but seems like it's easier to have no lin machines, if one wants everything to... just work |
| 21:48.37 | debian8xfce | oh god, how I hate mans written for people who already don't need them. There's so much confusing information I don't even understand |
| 21:49.03 | debian8xfce | but I am reading a man, it should be meant to damn make things clear, not vice versa! |
| 21:49.12 | ewew | debian8xfce Linux is not one-click device. Windows is the reason of botnets and viruses. |
| 21:49.15 | markybob | debian8xfce, http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/network-administration-linux-samba-basics.html |
| 21:49.52 | markybob | debian8xfce, they make books/docs for normal folks ;) |
| 21:49.53 | debian8xfce | ewew: I don't have antivirus on any of my win machines, and I never got any viruses |
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| 21:50.22 | ompaul | debian8xfce: this may help you read it before you progress: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.windows-file-server-with-samba.html |
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| 21:51.08 | ewew | debian8xfce ssh to linux machine is way easier and reliable. |
| 21:51.16 | debian8xfce | ompaul: I don't need to set up a samba server on linux, I want to use linux just to connect to the damn existing smb server |
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| 21:51.24 | debian8xfce | it should have been MEGA simple |
| 21:51.30 | Mr-R | debian8xfce: please calm down. configuring samba is the hardest thing to do on linux ever. hard core linux administration and bad windows clients... |
| 21:51.37 | debian8xfce | like click-click and that shit should have already be working |
| 21:51.46 | debian8xfce | I even tried gui utils like gigolo |
| 21:51.52 | ewew | Mr-R L4 admin level ? |
| 21:51.59 | debian8xfce | what's the point in them, if they don't even work... |
| 21:52.04 | Mr-R | enwe: eh? |
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| 21:52.32 | markybob | debian8xfce, it can be point-click. nautlius makes it very easy, for example |
| 21:52.39 | markybob | nautilus* |
| 21:52.47 | debian8xfce | I've read that about nautilus already |
| 21:52.53 | debian8xfce | and was going to give it a try |
| 21:53.02 | lesta | also double commander for linux |
| 21:53.28 | debian8xfce | I just want to keep things as simple as possible and have as little soft as possible |
| 21:53.41 | ewew | Mr-R Something like junior,senior,expert admin level. |
| 21:54.07 | Somelauw | Is it normal that on the stable version of the live iso of debian, the desktop item is called "Install SID" instead of "Install Stable"? Did I download the right ISO? |
| 21:54.10 | debian8xfce | if I have a file manager - I thought 'why would I install another one, if this one is configurable to fit my needs' |
| 21:54.18 | ompaul | debian8xfce: install dolphin |
| 21:54.26 | ompaul | fish://ip-goes-here |
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| 21:54.44 | debian8xfce | but seems like configurability is just a myth used by linuxoids in the os wars I've seen |
| 21:55.19 | markybob | debian8xfce, linux literally flies missiles. try that on windows :P |
| 21:55.39 | ompaul | fire and not quite forget |
| 21:55.40 | debian8xfce | ompaul: yeah, yeah, the same they said with thunar+gigolo+gvfs+samba+smbclient |
| 21:55.43 | Somelauw | thunar is a nice file manager |
| 21:55.44 | ewew | debian8xfce You must know some basics before configuring something. |
| 21:55.55 | ompaul | debian8xfce: well happy days then :-) |
| 21:56.14 | debian8xfce | ewew: basics are described in mans, problem is those advices do not work |
| 21:56.18 | markybob | debian8xfce, but yeah, seems like you've made up your mind |
| 21:56.47 | debian8xfce | like they suggest to do A and expect it to lead to result B, but instead I get result C and thus I'm stuck, since the man doesn't cover that possibility |
| 21:56.48 | ompaul | debian8xfce: I've solved your problem if you know how to (A) install a program (B) what the ip of the machine in question is |
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| 21:57.07 | lesta | debian8xfce: firewall ports 137,138/udp and 139,445/tcp are ok? |
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| 21:57.30 | debian8xfce | ompaul: I have dpkg, I have synaptics, I have apt-get, I think I can install a program |
| 21:57.41 | ompaul | debian8xfce: so did you do that yet? |
| 21:57.48 | ewew | lesta I think on linux box he does not have a fw. |
| 21:58.04 | lesta | k |
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| 21:58.50 | ompaul | also for those who are not aware, most firewalls are okay for traffic out, and not okay for traffic in - after that it gets like relationships, varying degrees of complex |
| 21:59.01 | debian8xfce | ompaul: lol, now I'm getting errors trying to install dolphin from apt-get :) |
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| 21:59.16 | ompaul | debian8xfce: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 22:00.13 | debian8xfce | ompaul: the first one ends with the very same errors too |
| 22:00.33 | markybob | debian8xfce, pastebin the errors so we can try to help |
| 22:00.34 | ompaul | debian8xfce: paste them into https://paste.debian.net |
| 22:00.56 | debian8xfce | they are not long, but they are in russian, so I translate them |
| 22:01.00 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 22:01.00 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 22:01.13 | zylinx | Ok.... Not in a good situation. Using debian jessie, updates auto downloaded while ago, needs reboot , reboot. Now my laptop is dead and i have work in a few hours. |
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| 22:01.39 | abrotman | zylinx: nvidia drivers? |
| 22:01.50 | jelly | debian8xfce: don't do that. run "export LC_ALL=C" and further calls in that shell will have messages in English |
| 22:01.54 | zylinx | The screen just went white and it said "something has gone wrong, you need to logout" |
| 22:01.57 | debian8xfce | error says: failed to get access to the lock file at /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: the resource is temporary unavailable) |
| 22:02.07 | markybob | debian8xfce, you need to be root. or sudo |
| 22:02.08 | debian8xfce | jelly: thx for the tip |
| 22:02.26 | zylinx | I have ati graphics |
| 22:02.29 | debian8xfce | markybob: I know, ran as sudo |
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| 22:03.30 | jesperj | or if you just want one command in english "LANG=C command" |
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| 22:03.41 | zylinx | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tycdctNE/irccloudcapture1048747062.jpg |
| 22:03.48 | zylinx | Please help |
| 22:04.55 | debian8xfce | !paste |
| 22:04.56 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:05.04 | zylinx | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BbFBeb9E/irccloudcapture578465115.jpg |
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| 22:05.23 | debian8xfce | http://paste.debian.net/332902/ |
| 22:05.30 | debian8xfce | here's the error text |
| 22:06.07 | jelly | zylinx: wtf is fnfxd |
| 22:06.17 | zylinx | I have no idea |
| 22:06.31 | DJ_Bitcon | omg can't believe i've just compiled mysql 5.1 D: |
| 22:06.38 | jelly | ,i fnfxd |
| 22:06.40 | judd | No package named 'fnfxd' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 22:06.49 | jelly | ,v fnfxd |
| 22:06.50 | judd | No package named 'fnfxd' was found in amd64. |
| 22:06.58 | zylinx | :/ |
| 22:07.18 | jelly | ,v fnfxd --arch i386 |
| 22:07.20 | judd | Package: fnfxd on i386 -- jessie: 0.3-14; sid: 0.3-14; wheezy: 0.3-14; squeeze: 0.3-14; stretch: 0.3-14 |
| 22:07.22 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: that means you're not logged in as root/ running via sudo. at least generally. |
| 22:07.23 | debian8xfce | nvm, seems like I should have closed synaptics before using apt-get... |
| 22:07.30 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: wrong |
| 22:07.30 | zylinx | All i did was click install updates when the package manager asked me, and then i rebooted |
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| 22:08.23 | debian8xfce | lol, dolphin asks for 243MB of free space |
| 22:08.24 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: is there a dpkg process already running? (ps -eFH|grep dpkg) |
| 22:08.32 | debian8xfce | nope, sorry, that's too much |
| 22:08.59 | jelly | zylinx: your last screenshot seems incomplete, did the system really hang with a faded [OK] Started ... as the last line of output? |
| 22:09.09 | debian8xfce | nautilus asked only 85.9MB, installing it instead of dolphin |
| 22:09.23 | zylinx | Jelly no but it scrolls too fast for me to snap a pic |
| 22:09.24 | Somelauw | I though dolphin would be smaller |
| 22:09.36 | jelly | zylinx: that's just normal startup, probably |
| 22:09.42 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: that is probably because it pull sin all kinds of KDE libs. |
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| 22:09.44 | zylinx | Ok |
| 22:09.46 | wallbroken | hi guys |
| 22:09.46 | debian8xfce | I thought unix way is 'my util is only 1.62kb' |
| 22:09.49 | wallbroken | https://www.dropbox.com/s/48hc519cj509u1z/ultimo.png?dl=0 |
| 22:09.51 | wallbroken | why of this? |
| 22:09.58 | wallbroken | i have eth0, eth1 up |
| 22:10.12 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: probably, but I'm on xfce |
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| 22:10.40 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: figured as much. :) |
| 22:10.46 | zylinx | Jelly i am able to boot into recovery mode, are there any logs i can look at? |
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| 22:11.32 | jelly | wallbroken: you just upgraded some network-manager packages. If your connectivity is done via n-m, it's likely that caused the disconnnect |
| 22:11.34 | zylinx | This could not have happened at a worse time lil |
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| 22:11.47 | jelly | zylinx: does the system not boot normally now? |
| 22:11.49 | Yoshy | My system doesnt boot anymore , it gives me a blac screen |
| 22:11.51 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: are you just trying to map to a windows share? |
| 22:12.07 | debian8xfce | yeah |
| 22:12.08 | wallbroken | jelly, it happens since when i installed "docky", never worked |
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| 22:12.44 | zylinx | Yoshy do u get a white screen that asks you to log out? |
| 22:12.54 | debian8xfce | well, nautilus fails as well |
| 22:12.57 | debian8xfce | :-/ |
| 22:13.04 | gnat_x | ,i gvfs |
| 22:13.05 | judd | Package gvfs (libs, optional) in jessie/amd64: userspace virtual filesystem - GIO module. Version: 1.22.2-1; Size: 325.7k; Installed: 604k; Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs |
| 22:13.06 | debian8xfce | I'm not even surprised or mad already... |
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| 22:13.43 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: do you have gvfs installed? |
| 22:13.46 | yooo | good afternoon everyone |
| 22:13.50 | wallbroken | jelly, is there somebody that i can do? |
| 22:13.57 | Yoshy | zylinx: no. its total black after finishes loading modules etc.. |
| 22:13.59 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: yeah, already, since some mans suggested that |
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| 22:14.29 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: i did this a couple montsh ago, trying to remember my steps. |
| 22:14.53 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: what are you doing to test this? |
| 22:14.54 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: I think the simplest would be to install a vm with windows |
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| 22:15.26 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: I just ran nautilus and hit 'brrowse network' |
| 22:15.34 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: that might be helpful for other things, but you should be able to get a windows share working natively. |
| 22:15.44 | zylinx | Jelly this is the last screen that shows before it dies... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6L0JKnUY/irccloudcapture1891695100.jpg |
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| 22:15.51 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: the file server at work doesn't show up well that way for me. |
| 22:15.52 | debian8xfce | there is only 1 icon 'windows network' |
| 22:16.04 | debian8xfce | I hit it twice, it waited a bit and showed me the error |
| 22:16.06 | zylinx | Can anyone help? |
| 22:16.52 | Yoshy | zylinx: before i'd log into safemode and reconfidure the nvidia driver. now that trick doesnt help |
| 22:16.59 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: do you have gnome-keyring installed? |
| 22:17.11 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: if so, do you have it startup at log in. |
| 22:17.20 | debian8xfce | I doubt so, dpkg -l | grep gnome-keyring? |
| 22:17.30 | jelly | zylinx: ouch. Does booting to rescue mode still work? |
| 22:17.52 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: yeah, seems like it is installed |
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| 22:19.07 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: http://paste.debian.net/332903/ |
| 22:19.11 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: what i do is in thunar (xfce file browser) Go -> Open Location -> smb://<IP of server>/<share> |
| 22:19.13 | debian8xfce | did I check it right? |
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| 22:20.15 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: the easier way is 'apt-cache policy gnome-keyring' |
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| 22:20.26 | debian8xfce | gnat_x: woah |
| 22:20.33 | debian8xfce | seems like it finally works |
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| 22:20.45 | debian8xfce | turns out: 'share' part is necessary |
| 22:20.55 | debian8xfce | while I omitted it all the previous times |
| 22:21.03 | debian8xfce | because in windows I just select a PC first |
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| 22:21.09 | debian8xfce | to get a list of it's net shares |
| 22:21.36 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: nice! |
| 22:21.37 | jelly | zylinx: I have to confess I've never even seen your first "something went wrong [log out]" screen |
| 22:21.40 | debian8xfce | how do I get a list of net shares for a selected node in linux? |
| 22:21.50 | zylinx | :( |
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| 22:22.20 | zylinx | jelly: i can get into recovery mode, any idea on where i can find some logs? |
| 22:22.23 | jelly | debian8xfce: samba or nfs? smbclient -L samba-server-name; showmount -e nfs-server-name |
| 22:22.34 | Akuw | jelly: no errors |
| 22:22.39 | debian8xfce | thx gnat_x, ewew, markybob, ompaul and other guys |
| 22:22.53 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: glad to help. |
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| 22:23.12 | ewew | debian8xfce Did i help with something ? :P |
| 22:23.12 | gnat_x | it is a good way to kill time while i'm waiting for something else to build. |
| 22:23.16 | jelly | Akuw: did you see any grub-related configuration? If you did, does your desired command work better now? |
| 22:23.29 | Akuw | no |
| 22:23.40 | debian8xfce | jelly: that's the part from all the mans that returns me an error: NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL |
| 22:23.44 | Akuw | still getting GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured |
| 22:23.59 | debian8xfce | ewew: well, you tried, that counts too :) |
| 22:24.12 | ewew | debian8xfce ok. np |
| 22:24.12 | jelly | Akuw: pastebin the output of dpkg -l grub\*; dpkg --configure -a |
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| 22:24.55 | thunkee | hi, on every debian sid machine logut freezes the screen, gdm3/gnome-session, an isoloate multi-user graphical will fix, ctrl alt fx won't, so i have login remote change runlevels and then can login, any hints? |
| 22:25.31 | jelly | zylinx: there are kernel logs in /var/log/kern.log and X server logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I do not think they will be useful |
| 22:25.52 | jelly | dpkg, tell thunkee about debian-next |
| 22:26.25 | thunkee | dpkg, tell jelly about : |
| 22:26.29 | Akuw | http://paste.debian.net/332905/ |
| 22:26.34 | Akuw | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/332905/ |
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| 22:27.41 | jelly | Akuw: okay, so dpkg thinks grub-pc and grub-common are fully, cleanly installed |
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| 22:28.59 | Akuw | jelly: then? |
| 22:29.13 | zylinx | If anyone is reading this who could help me 1 on 1 please pm me. |
| 22:29.18 | debian8xfce | jelly: kek, turns out 'smbclient -L hostname' fails as well as 'smbclient -L 192.168.1.2' fails, as well as 'smbclient -L hostname -u local' fails, but 'smbclient -L 192.168.1.2 -u local' finally works |
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| 22:29.32 | jelly | Akuw: run update-grub, instead of update-grub2, see what happens |
| 22:29.43 | debian8xfce | so there's an issue with hostnames in debian |
| 22:30.16 | ompaul | !hostnames |
| 22:30.19 | ompaul | !hostname |
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| 22:30.26 | jelly | !spank ompaul |
| 22:30.26 | dpkg | bends ompaul over its knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 22:30.32 | ompaul | oh do it again |
| 22:30.34 | ompaul | :) |
| 22:30.37 | jelly | !spank ompaul |
| 22:30.37 | dpkg | bends ompaul over its knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 22:30.53 | ompaul | ok now you have my attention :) |
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| 22:31.07 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: you mean resolving the names of windows servers on your network? |
| 22:31.13 | debian8xfce | YEAH |
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| 22:31.29 | jelly | debian8xfce: I have no idea what -u does for smbclient. |
| 22:31.33 | gnat_x | that's a windows problem. i feel that pain though. |
| 22:31.47 | debian8xfce | jelly: let's specify a user to login as |
| 22:31.57 | jelly | isn't that -U |
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| 22:32.06 | gnat_x | listen to jelly, i stopped caring once i figured out the IPI workaround. |
| 22:32.10 | debian8xfce | sorry, a typo, meant -U |
| 22:32.21 | gnat_x | plus i'm about to go AFK |
| 22:32.29 | debian8xfce | what's IPI workaround? |
| 22:32.35 | gnat_x | sinc err IP |
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| 22:32.50 | gnat_x | debian8xfce: IP address work around |
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| 22:32.53 | debian8xfce | oh |
| 22:33.01 | gnat_x | goes afk |
| 22:33.22 | jelly | debian8xfce: if you have an AD in place, point your resolv.conf toward windows dnses. |
| 22:33.23 | markybob | debian8xfce, you know you could simply edit /etc/hosts ? |
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| 22:34.19 | debian8xfce | markybob: that's what I usually wound up doing on freebsd, after getting tired of resolv.conf's shit |
| 22:34.55 | zylinx | jelly is it possible to rollback all recent changes made with dpkg ?? |
| 22:35.07 | markybob | debian8xfce, i kinda feel like you're writing an article on linux and our support :P |
| 22:35.10 | debian8xfce | jelly: it's just a workgroup, not an AD (not sure if they are really different things, not much into network administration) |
| 22:35.20 | jelly | zylinx: nope. You could try installing the kernel from jessie-backports and see if there's any difference. |
| 22:35.41 | jelly | dpkg, tell zylinx about jessie-backports |
| 22:35.45 | jelly | dpkg, tell zylinx about bdo kernel |
| 22:36.08 | debian8xfce | markybob: haha, I have a feeling that I actually should have. And microsoft would pay me for it, because it would look like as anti-advertising, unfortunately :( |
| 22:36.41 | zylinx | jelly i tried to install steam earlier today and i followed a tut that installed graphics drivers and a bunch of 32bit libraries (im using 64bit) |
| 22:36.50 | zylinx | Could it have been that? |
| 22:37.05 | jelly | zylinx: getting rid of said graphics drivers should do the trick |
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| 22:37.40 | jelly | zylinx: also, don't trust random tutorials on the net, especially if they don't explain what can go wrong |
| 22:37.42 | markybob | debian8xfce, okay |
| 22:37.46 | zylinx | Great! |
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| 22:38.02 | zylinx | I will try find the tutorial and undo |
| 22:38.11 | zylinx | Yeah i should have been wiser |
| 22:38.20 | jelly | it's not likely they have "undo" steps at all |
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| 22:38.59 | jelly | but the safest thing to do... is not fuck with your work computer if you have work to do |
| 22:39.19 | debian8xfce | jelly: hey, what should I point to in resolv.conf if I have no AD, but just a home lan workgroup? |
| 22:39.26 | debian8xfce | to my router's IP? |
| 22:39.40 | debian8xfce | or the dns of my ISP? |
| 22:39.43 | markybob | debian8xfce, no. in that situation edit /etc/hosts |
| 22:39.51 | jelly | debian8xfce: then you're fucked, because only AD has proper DNS, workgroups don't |
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| 22:40.14 | debian8xfce | markybob: but how do windowses know each others netbios names in a home lan? |
| 22:40.37 | ompaul | ##microsoft |
| 22:40.39 | jelly | debian8xfce: well. Theoretically proper winbind and libnss-winbind and /etc/nsswitch.conf setup should work in that case. Let us know if you make THAT work. |
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| 22:40.49 | debian8xfce | what if I had dynamic IPs given to LAN PCs instead of static binds? |
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| 22:41.12 | debian8xfce | jelly: thanks, got your sarcasm :) |
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| 22:41.45 | jelly | it's only half sarcasm. I know it exists. Never made it work or tried it seriously. |
| 22:42.16 | debian8xfce | well, and my experience with debian is 3 days |
| 22:42.41 | jelly | go with /etc/hosts for the time being |
| 22:43.03 | debian8xfce | I will, I'm just saying that I could have had dynamic IPs in my LAN |
| 22:43.14 | zylinx | Omg its still broken even after removing the package ;( |
| 22:43.18 | jelly | debian8xfce: you could have. DO you, tho? |
| 22:43.39 | zylinx | jelly this is what i followed earlier today http://linuxconfig.org/installation-of-steam-client-on-debian-jessie-8-linux-64bit |
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| 22:44.23 | jelly | zylinx: what did you remove? |
| 22:44.37 | zylinx | And now i tried apt-get remove with the ATI i386 drivers at the bottom |
| 22:44.42 | debian8xfce | jelly: no, I believe it would result into extra CPU operations on my router, so I made static binds on DHCP server for all my home devices |
| 22:44.42 | zylinx | But didnt work |
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| 22:45.57 | Yoshy | I cant boot up my cpmputer i get a black screen. |
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| 22:46.18 | debian8xfce | Yoshy: try livecd |
| 22:46.19 | jelly | debian8xfce: +1 for accidentally doing the right thing, -1 for doing it for bogus reasons |
| 22:47.04 | debian8xfce | jelly: I know this reason is ridiculous... |
| 22:47.14 | markybob | debian8xfce, that won't fix his nvidia driver issue |
| 22:47.28 | jelly | zylinx: did you use non-free ati/amd drivers before doing the steps from this tutorial? |
| 22:47.57 | debian8xfce | markybob: he says his PC doesn't boot and has black screen, I think this is actually a solution of the named problem. |
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| 22:48.04 | zylinx | im not sure, jelly.....yes i think i was |
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| 22:48.16 | zylinx | Yeah in pretty sure i was using non free jelly |
| 22:48.27 | debian8xfce | if he said the problem is that his current OS install is broken in such a way and he wants to rescue it - that's a different problem :) |
| 22:49.32 | jelly | zylinx: could be. Pastebin the output of aptitude -F'%a%c%M %30p %10v %10d' search '~i ?source-package(fglrx-driver)' |
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| 22:49.41 | debian8xfce | every windows user knows: don't have an intel GPU? then don't run linux outside of a VM! |
| 22:49.55 | debian8xfce | stops trollink |
| 22:50.07 | jelly | !pastebinit |
| 22:50.07 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 22:51.49 | jessequinn | has anyone installed mkl and ifortran on debian jessie? Can this be accomplished with the cluster parallel studio xe? |
| 22:51.58 | zylinx | jelly https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jGztlCze/irccloudcapture1440406872.jpg |
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| 22:53.29 | jelly | zylinx: so... you don't seem to have any 64bit part of the non-free amd driver installed |
| 22:53.29 | Yoshy | before i'd reconfigure nvidia driver in safe mode. now it doesnt help. what should i do / |
| 22:53.42 | zylinx | :( |
| 22:54.30 | jelly | zylinx: I suggest purging the 32bit stuff, too, for a start. |
| 22:54.31 | zylinx | jelly is it because i ran any of these commands? http://linuxconfig.org/installation-of-steam-client-on-debian-jessie-8-linux-64bit |
| 22:54.44 | zylinx | Ok |
| 22:55.07 | jelly | zylinx: it's probably because you did not look at their output and did not notice what they would do |
| 22:55.43 | jelly | zylinx: you can: aptitude purge '~i ?source-package(fglrx-driver)' |
| 22:56.30 | jelly | zylinx: and try to reboot normally. Probably won't help, but let's try |
| 22:57.30 | zylinx | jelly ok thanks! Will do.... |
| 22:58.47 | zylinx | I really should have payed closer attention |
| 22:58.55 | zylinx | Damn... |
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| 23:01.32 | jelly | zylinx: sometimes apt or aptitude think they need to remove seemingly unrelated packages to be able to perform the installation action you asked them to do. They show this in the first part of the output, in between packages that are getting newly installed and packages that are getting upgraded. You have to carefully read this or you may miss it. |
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| 23:01.44 | zylinx | jelly thank you!!!!!! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aPzHgtVO/irccloudcapture-9121047.jpg |
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| 23:02.25 | zylinx | You are a god sent jelly |
| 23:02.29 | jelly | zylinx: alright then, best deal with steam some other time |
| 23:02.39 | zylinx | Yes :) |
| 23:03.00 | jelly | (you're now running on free drivers, no fglrx parts installed) |
| 23:03.26 | jelly | (or at least... not via apt/dpkg) |
| 23:04.13 | zylinx | Ok awesome, il deal with that stuff far in the future when i havent got lots of work to do haha |
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| 23:04.41 | jelly | another silly workaround: have two computers ;-) |
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| 23:06.00 | zylinx | Hopefully il be able to afford one soon, thanks to you ;) |
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| 23:08.19 | Agiofws | he is it possible to install nvdia drivers for GeForce 5xxx / GeForce FX GPUs in debian 8 can anyone take a look here https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
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| 23:10.13 | Yoshy | I have troubles with nvidia driver can anyone help |
| 23:10.17 | Yoshy | ? |
| 23:10.17 | jelly | Agiofws: if you install nvidia-detect, does it say there's a driver for that card? |
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| 23:11.29 | B1G3a5Y | i have a similar problem. ran the nvidia-detect says no nvidia gpu even tho I know i have one. |
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| 23:13.34 | Agiofws | Detected NVIDIA GPUs: |
| 23:13.34 | Agiofws | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] [10de:0343] (rev a1) |
| 23:13.34 | Agiofws | Uh oh. Your card is only supported by the 173.14 legacy drivers series, which is not in any current Debian suite. |
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| 23:14.16 | Agiofws | can't i somehow compile install a wheezy package on jessie? |
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| 23:14.22 | bazhang | ,v nouveau |
| 23:14.24 | judd | No package named 'nouveau' was found in amd64. |
| 23:15.03 | markybob | ,xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 23:15.08 | markybob | ,v xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 23:15.09 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.09 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5; squeeze-backports: 1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.0.1-5; jessie: 1:1.0.11-1; sid: 1:1.0.11-1+b1; stretch: 1:1.0.11-1+b1 |
| 23:15.27 | Agiofws | jelly, ^^ ? |
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| 23:16.52 | Agiofws | what would happen if a ran this binary off of nvidias site NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.67-pkg1.run would it damage my system? |
| 23:17.04 | markybob | Agiofws, probably |
| 23:17.20 | markybob | !nvidia |
| 23:17.20 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:17.36 | Akuw | jelly: GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured. |
| 23:17.59 | Agiofws | debian 8 DOES not support my legasy card !!! |
| 23:18.09 | mueble | hello , can somebody help me, I changed the layout of the keyboard with setxkbmod and now when I enter X I cannot do anything since Im using ratpoison. Is there a way to change the X layout from the command line. |
| 23:18.15 | Agiofws | and i don;t want to downgrade to debian 7 |
| 23:18.49 | Agiofws | but i am getting segfaults and other programs will not run with the novea driver |
| 23:20.13 | bytemonkey | On debian, what's the best way to run .exe applications such as Immunity Debugger ? |
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| 23:20.26 | mueble | Hi agiofws I have the exact same problem and I didnt in 7. So Its the drivers, good to know. |
| 23:20.46 | mtn | bytemonkey, wine or virtualbox |
| 23:21.10 | markybob | bytemonkey, or you don't |
| 23:21.19 | markybob | really |
| 23:21.36 | markybob | nor is it supported here |
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| 23:21.42 | mueble | is there a way to change the keyboard layout without using setxkbmap? |
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| 23:23.11 | mueble | I changed the layout by accident with setxkbmap now I cant use X, is there a way to change the layout without setxkbmap or X?. |
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| 23:24.25 | Akuw | jelly: you there |
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| 23:24.54 | Somelauw | i didn't know setxkbmap needed X |
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| 23:28.24 | ququshka77 | Hi! I set up the multimedia keys. Xev does not see the key. Detail - http://paste.debian.net/plain/332797 Somebody had a similar problem? |
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| 23:29.54 | bytemonkey | mtn: I have wine installed but it doesn't function properly for some reason. |
| 23:30.09 | bytemonkey | markybob: how come? |
| 23:30.14 | mtn | bytemonkey, Wine support is at #winehq on the freenode server and http://www.winehq.org/ |
| 23:31.44 | bytemonkey | mtn: I don't need wine support, I was asking about running .exe applications on Debian. Is wine the only way without using VM? |
| 23:32.09 | mtn | bytemonkey, yes you do. you said wine is not working correctly, go to the wine channel |
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| 23:32.35 | bytemonkey | Is there an alternative? |
| 23:32.51 | bytemonkey | say a linux friendly Immunity debugger! |
| 23:33.00 | markybob | not really. crossover is just wine repackaged |
| 23:33.07 | bytemonkey | hm. ok |
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| 23:38.36 | bytemonkey | !wine |
| 23:38.36 | dpkg | Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ . http://wiki.winehq.org/HowTo http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
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| 23:41.26 | fiffen | rback |
| 23:41.41 | fiffen | dont go wine |
| 23:41.43 | fiffen | bytemonkey |
| 23:42.07 | bytemonkey | yeah, i really don't like it much, fiffen. |
| 23:42.25 | bytemonkey | !debugger |
| 23:43.03 | bytemonkey | I need a debugger for exploit writing though, ollydbg requires wine too. |
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| 23:43.42 | randomuser123 | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-8126 |
| 23:43.43 | bytemonkey | I suppose wring .py scripts may be a better alternative. |
| 23:43.46 | randomuser123 | still not fixed |
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| 23:43.57 | bytemonkey | *wiring |
| 23:46.37 | somiaj | randomuser123: follow the bug repot. Unless you want to submit a patch to help the security team/matainer out. |
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| 23:47.16 | randomuser123 | it just seems like this would be a top priority because of the effects of the bug |
| 23:47.22 | fiffen | ohh i see |
| 23:47.24 | fiffen | ;) |
| 23:47.31 | omaressa | hi |
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| 23:48.51 | somiaj | ,v libpng |
| 23:48.52 | judd | No package named 'libpng' was found in amd64. |
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| 23:50.26 | dvs | yay! no vulnerability! |
| 23:51.16 | bytemonkey | http://pastebin.com/WJ6YiDwP |
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| 23:52.24 | randomuser123 | somiaj, what does ,v do? |
| 23:53.23 | fiffen | what games do you guys advice for linux nowdays ?:D |
| 23:53.27 | fiffen | steam? |
| 23:53.28 | fiffen | xD |
| 23:53.41 | bytemonkey | steam...isn't a game. |
| 23:53.43 | somiaj | randomuser123: its acommand for the bot. Just seeing what versions debian has. Note debian needs to backport any fixes to the version in wheezy and jessie. And this may be taking time. I don't know any other way to see when it is completed except by checking the bugreport. |
| 23:53.58 | fiffen | oh seriuse :P |
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| 23:54.19 | randomuser123 | fiffen, super tux racer ofc |
| 23:54.27 | fiffen | vrummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 23:54.27 | fiffen | :D |
| 23:55.05 | fiffen | Does anyone here has AIr Fibre , booster ? |
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| 23:55.29 | fiffen | from ubiquiti |
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