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| 00:01.28 | fiffen | Ubiquiti AirFiber 5 Wireless Bridge (AF-5) connectors |
| 00:01.40 | fiffen | my new antenna for my bedroom |
| 00:01.43 | fiffen | wifi |
| 00:01.44 | fiffen | :D |
| 00:02.05 | fiffen | -connectors |
| 00:03.01 | somiaj | fiffen: please stay on topic, which is debian support. |
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| 00:04.18 | fiffen | kk |
| 00:04.42 | fiffen | whats is debian good for, smiaj ?:) |
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| 00:06.12 | abrotman | fiffen: That's twice in one day, you're not doing so well. |
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| 00:09.06 | bytemonkey | from what im reading on winefq, there is no debian friendly version anyway...unless I can use the one of ubuntu. |
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| 00:10.44 | somiaj | bytemonkey: you are reading outdated info |
| 00:10.49 | somiaj | ,v wine |
| 00:10.50 | judd | Package: wine on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; wheezy: 1.4.1-4; jessie: 1.6.2-20; stretch: 1.6.2-22; sid: 1.6.2-22 |
| 00:10.57 | somiaj | ,v wine-development |
| 00:10.58 | judd | Package: wine-development on amd64 -- jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 1.7.52-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7.52-1; sid: 1.7.55-1 |
| 00:11.15 | bytemonkey | oh |
| 00:11.24 | somiaj | bytemonkey: you can get the stable version 1.6.2 and the development version 1.7.52 in jessie (and jessie-backports) |
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| 00:11.41 | bytemonkey | well im running stable so that works. |
| 00:11.50 | markybob | still won't help with debugger though |
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| 00:12.00 | bytemonkey | really? |
| 00:12.05 | markybob | really |
| 00:12.06 | bytemonkey | see... |
| 00:12.59 | somiaj | bytemonkey: wine is a fickel beast. Check the info for the actual program you wish to run. It can be hit and miss which ones work and how well. |
| 00:13.38 | somiaj | bytemonkey: but you can get recent enough versions from debian packages that provided the program works under wine without much modification you should be okay. |
| 00:14.58 | g00se | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.27 | somiaj | g00se: what do you mean? That is just a script in contrib that will pull in the non-free flash plugin. But it really isn't that 'new' of flash since adobe stop supporting linux (except for security fixes) at version 11 |
| 00:16.44 | somiaj | g00se: and by won't install, what exactly is the rror you are getting |
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| 00:17.55 | markybob | g00se, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash |
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| 00:18.15 | markybob | g00se, and pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 00:18.49 | somiaj | does the pepperflash work well in iceweasel with that. I've seen the package but not tried it (since I rarely run iceweasel) |
| 00:19.02 | markybob | somiaj, works fine here |
| 00:19.46 | g00se | somiaj: it's saying there IS another version available |
| 00:19.57 | g00se | 11.2.202.548 >= 11.2.202.540. Would you like to update? (y/n) |
| 00:20.25 | g00se | That's my script (wrapper around the executable) |
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| 00:21.38 | somiaj | g00se: This is one of the pitfalls of this script. I think it has to deal with the actual matainer needing to update something on his webpage so it can find the newer version. |
| 00:21.45 | g00se | http://sprunge.us/KBVC |
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| 00:21.54 | somiaj | g00se: you can add --verbose and get all the output the script does. Or go download the newer version yourself. |
| 00:21.54 | g00se | Is the horse's mouth |
| 00:22.32 | somiaj | g00se: but I do belive it is known by the matainer of the script this limitation. |
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| 00:23.35 | g00se | But what's going on. Clearly there's an update but it won't come down. Or has the maintainer not made it available? |
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| 00:43.09 | relipse | can someone help me my git pull is hanging, last time this happened i think port 22 was closed, how do i open it |
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| 01:00.22 | bytemonkey | rolling with edb-debugger...crafted specifically for linux. |
| 01:00.31 | bytemonkey | thanks for the help guys. |
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| 01:08.11 | markybob | abrotman, you're too nice :) |
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| 01:08.53 | dvs | gets out the lart |
| 01:09.16 | markybob | always count on dvs for fucked up comments :P |
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| 01:14.16 | dvs | !lart markybob |
| 01:14.16 | dpkg | calls markybob on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 01:14.24 | dvs | heh |
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| 01:16.17 | B1G3a5Y | can anyone IM me i need some help about DVWA |
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| 01:19.09 | NRoach44 | Is there an IRC for the nvidia-driver team? |
| 01:19.58 | markybob | NRoach44, #nvidia |
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| 01:20.19 | NRoach44 | markybob: that's specific to debian? |
| 01:20.27 | markybob | NRoach44, no. |
| 01:20.45 | NRoach44 | or at least has some of the debian people in it? |
| 01:20.54 | markybob | NRoach44, yes |
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| 01:21.11 | NRoach44 | okay |
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| 01:23.22 | NRoach44 | thanks markybob |
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| 01:28.54 | markybob | B1G3a5Y, their support is on #infosec-ninjas |
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| 01:30.03 | nak | i have debian 6 installed on an encrypted thumb drive. the drive was encrypted at install but i don't remember which file system or encryption method i used. I'm trying to mount the drive on another computer. can someone help point me in the right direction ? |
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| 01:31.19 | markybob | nak, i'm assuming encfs. https://www.howtoforge.com/encrypt-your-data-with-encfs-debian-wheezy |
| 01:32.00 | DJ_Bitcon | nak, do you know whether it was encrypted by encfs, truecrypt, cryptsetup or other software? |
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| 01:33.23 | DJ_Bitcon | partitions created with cryptsetup usually contain encryption info in first N bytes. get them with head |
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| 01:34.24 | nak | DJ_Bitcon of those, cryptsetup rings a bell |
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| 01:35.34 | DJ_Bitcon | nak, try this command: head /path/to/partition | hexdump -C |
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| 01:36.08 | nak | DJ_Bitcon https://gist.github.com/naomik/ceadc7aa0557b511ed55 |
| 01:36.12 | nak | DJ_Bitcon oh ok i will try that one |
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| 01:37.16 | DJ_Bitcon | oh, this is encfs |
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| 01:37.35 | nak | DJ_Bitcon https://gist.github.com/naomik/ceadc7aa0557b511ed55#file-out2-txt |
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| 01:37.58 | DJ_Bitcon | yea, it's not cryptsetup volume |
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| 01:38.00 | DJ_Bitcon | encfs |
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| 01:38.02 | nak | ok |
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| 01:40.02 | nak | DJ_Bitcon anyway to know which type of encryption was used? AES 256 is my guess? |
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| 01:41.48 | DJ_Bitcon | if it was encfs, yes it is |
| 01:42.17 | DJ_Bitcon | blowfish+aes |
| 01:42.46 | nak | ok i'm gonna see if i can figure out how to mount an encfs on osx |
| 01:42.54 | nak | i don't have another linux machine at my disposal at the moment |
| 01:43.00 | nak | i only need read access |
| 01:43.53 | DJ_Bitcon | a search signals that it's possible |
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| 01:48.12 | simonpatapon | hi |
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| 01:48.52 | derstrom | Hi. I'm testing out Debian Unstable (using Linux Kernel 4.2.x), and every time I execute "glxinfo | grep renderer", gnome-shell crashes, leaving me with a cursor to move freely and the desktop wallpaper. Where do I need to look specifically to find the relevant logs that can help in a bug report about this issue? Thanks. |
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| 01:49.12 | nak | hmm DJ_Bitcon it might be best for me to download a live debian iso and vm it |
| 01:49.13 | derstrom | (Using nouveau) |
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| 01:49.29 | DJ_Bitcon | nak, i agree :) |
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| 01:50.31 | nak | DJ_Bitcon ok let's do that |
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| 01:54.33 | ripero | I have been running jessie for a while, and I am trying to install some packages from stretch (I am interested in texlive-pictures), but dependencies seem to get a bit lost and apt-get is trying to remove a bunch of packages including evolution and libreoffice; what can I do? |
| 01:54.44 | GitGud | i like jessie |
| 01:55.58 | dvs | ripero: not grab packages from stretch in jessie? |
| 01:56.16 | ripero | dvs: I need texlive from stretcch |
| 01:56.31 | qman__ | !frankendebian |
| 01:56.31 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 01:56.41 | dvs | ,v texlive |
| 01:56.42 | judd | Package: texlive on amd64 -- squeeze: 2009-11+squeeze1; wheezy: 2012.20120611-5; jessie: 2014.20141024-2; stretch: 2015.20151016-1; sid: 2015.20151016-1 |
| 01:56.46 | ripero | but I don't have the time to go through an upgrade, breaking gnome-shell, etc |
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| 01:58.02 | derstrom | ripero: best you should do if you need some packages you can't find in the standard repo is to look in jessie-backports; but it's a bad idea to mix stable and unstable packages, it'll cause all kinds of dependency issues as you have experienced |
| 01:58.07 | nak | DJ_Bitcon ok i have a live cd running |
| 01:58.12 | nak | DJ_Bitcon what's the best way to mount this drive ? |
| 01:58.30 | ripero | derstrom: no recent texlive in backports |
| 01:59.40 | ripero | well, I'll upgrade |
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| 02:00.20 | ripero | this is going to be fun |
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| 02:02.51 | DJ_Bitcon | nak, just install `encfs` package and then something like `encfs /encrypted_dir /decrypted_dir` |
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| 02:03.25 | nak | DJ_Bitcon guh now virtualbox is complaining about connecting the usb drive |
| 02:03.26 | DJ_Bitcon | it will prompt for the password |
| 02:03.39 | nak | i will have to figure that mess out |
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| 02:05.09 | derstrom | ripero: one of those benefits vs. drawbacks of a distro that emphasises stability first ;-) |
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| 02:11.39 | ripero | ongoing upgrade (953 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 478 not upgraded), the dist-upgrade is going to be so much fun... |
| 02:13.18 | DJ_Bitcon | that's fine, today i've moved from squeeze to jessie on one of production servers |
| 02:13.41 | DJ_Bitcon | without any problem |
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| 02:15.28 | Nik05 | ripero what are you upgrading? |
| 02:16.15 | ripero | Nik05: jessie->stretch |
| 02:16.17 | dvs | Nik05: he wants\ texlive |
| 02:16.23 | ripero | the full lot |
| 02:16.30 | Nik05 | its not in jessie? |
| 02:16.37 | ripero | not the version I need |
| 02:17.07 | Nik05 | good luck :) |
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| 02:17.17 | Nik05 | oh anyone an idea how to add key combinations? |
| 02:17.29 | Nik05 | i would like to be able to type â with some keys |
| 02:17.43 | ripero | Nik05: thank you, it looks like it's not going to work |
| 02:17.45 | Nik05 | i edited it in the past, but i forgot the combition and forgot where i change it :P |
| 02:18.30 | AvatarA | ripero, what is not going to work? |
| 02:19.15 | ripero | AvatarA: dist-upgrade complains: |
| 02:19.16 | ripero | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 02:19.16 | ripero | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.16 | ripero | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
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| 02:19.44 | Nik05 | so now he is stuck with a partially upgraded system? |
| 02:20.03 | AvatarA | I would have used aptitude safe-upgrade first then full-upgrade |
| 02:20.17 | Nik05 | can still try that... |
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| 02:20.33 | dvs | AvatarA: aptitude is not recommended for version upgrades |
| 02:20.58 | AvatarA | why? |
| 02:21.04 | ripero | sorry for the flood (thought 4 lines would still be ok) |
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| 02:21.42 | dvs | AvatarA: The way conflicts are resolve don't lend itself to upgrades |
| 02:21.50 | AvatarA | I've had more success with its way of resolving |
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| 02:22.39 | AvatarA | but I usually do a dry run with apt-get also and compare the potential results |
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| 02:24.21 | AvatarA | ripero, how many packages are held? |
| 02:24.53 | ripero | after the apt-get upgrade, 478 not upgraded |
| 02:25.05 | ripero | AvatarA:^ |
| 02:25.36 | somiaj | that is normal. Lots of packages require you to install new dependencies or remove old packages and apt-get upgrade will only upgrade things that don't require that. |
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| 02:25.48 | ripero | including all xserver-xorg, texlive, most gnome, etc |
| 02:25.50 | iWaldo | is there a standard/best practice for the location to mount permanently attached storage? i'm reading up on it and /mnt sounds like it is intended for temporary mounting of filesystems |
| 02:25.57 | ripero | somiaj: yes, but dist-upgrade cannot solve them |
| 02:25.59 | AvatarA | ripero, run: "aptitude -s full-upgrade" |
| 02:26.11 | AvatarA | see if that could get you closer to your goal |
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| 02:26.27 | centrx | iWaldo, try /media |
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| 02:26.47 | centrx | iWaldo, subdirectory in /media that is |
| 02:27.18 | Tordek | Nik05: Compose key? find or build a .Xcompose (I think that's the filename) and you can do that with, like, "Compose+e,x,i,s" |
| 02:27.23 | iWaldo | centrx: understood (twas implied) |
| 02:27.42 | Nik05 | Tordek thank you |
| 02:28.01 | iWaldo | centrx: the description in the LFHS is almost identical to /mnt, though... "irectory for mounting files systems on removable media like CD-ROM drives, floppy disks, and Zip drives." |
| 02:28.29 | AvatarA | also see "apt-get --ignore-hold -s dist-upgrade" if you started out with apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:28.43 | ripero | AvatarA: not really, wants to remove 122 packages including gnome-shell, gdm3, vlc, pidgin,... |
| 02:28.55 | centrx | iWaldo, /mnt is often used to just mount as /mnt, without any subdirectory |
| 02:28.58 | centrx | iWaldo, but either works |
| 02:29.13 | somiaj | ripero: you can start manually upgrading packages until you locate the one that is causing the issue. |
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| 02:29.29 | Nik05 | ripero its what you get. Some times there is a new library in testing and sid but not all packages updated to depend on the newest version |
| 02:29.38 | AvatarA | also see last command, -s is for "simulate" so nothing will go wrong as no changes will be made |
| 02:30.14 | iWaldo | centrx: historically i've just made subdirectories in /mnt and callied it a day (i didn't understand that temporarily mounting into /mnt directly was intended, and some OSes seem to create subdirs there by default) |
| 02:30.46 | iWaldo | it seems strange that there's no standard for mounting permanently attached storage |
| 02:32.05 | ripero | somiaj: all attempts so far want to remove libreoffice |
| 02:32.30 | centrx | iWaldo, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#MEDIAMOUNTPOINT |
| 02:32.32 | ripero | amongst others |
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| 02:32.57 | ripero | Nik05: how long until that gets solved, usually? |
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| 02:33.01 | somiaj | ripero: You need to track down what the actual conflict is. Figure out which package dependency cannot be met. Once you do that you acn then figure out how to resolve it. |
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| 02:33.30 | somiaj | you could check bug reports and see if this is a known dependency issue, but it still needs to be tracked down. |
| 02:34.59 | iWaldo | centrx: thanks. good notes/rationale. i'm going to stop using /mnt... but /media doesn't seem right either. |
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| 02:35.32 | centrx | iWaldo, It's new |
| 02:35.53 | centrx | iWaldo, Of course you can create directories anywhere |
| 02:36.32 | AvatarA | we did not ask the most important question though: how does your sources.list look like ripero? |
| 02:37.18 | somiaj | AvatarA: apt-cache policy is sometimes good output to get (just in case his sources are split up into multiple files) |
| 02:37.39 | iWaldo | centrx, i'll probably try to think up a fitting name for a new directory in root that will contain my permanently mounted filesystems |
| 02:38.00 | simonpatapon | hi |
| 02:38.16 | simonpatapon | i'm trying quad monitor with an intel onboard i915 and Geforce 560TI |
| 02:38.28 | simonpatapon | lspsci : http://pastebin.com/kuXS9TEB /etc/X11/xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/CMmYaeKz Xlog : http://pastebin.com/HaKsZtKi |
| 02:38.37 | ripero | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib |
| 02:38.38 | ripero | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib |
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| 02:38.43 | simonpatapon | can someby help me? |
| 02:38.54 | ripero | and nothing else |
| 02:39.16 | dvs | !ftp.debian.org |
| 02:39.16 | dpkg | ftp.debian.org is not the principal mirror for Debian. It is just one mirror that uses bandwidth that was donated to the Debian project; you are kindly requested not to use this mirror but to instead use a mirror that is closer to you, ask me about <mirrors>. See http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror#wherefrom for more information. |
| 02:39.59 | Nik05 | ripero ftp.debian.org is in the netherlands... |
| 02:40.11 | Nik05 | dont use it |
| 02:41.47 | Tordek | fwiw, I'm in a similar (the same?) situation |
| 02:41.54 | Tordek | and the issue is: libstdc++6 : Breaks: libkolabxml1 (<= 1.1.0-3) but 1.0.2-2 is to be installed |
| 02:42.36 | ripero | Nik05: OK - switched to uk |
| 02:42.47 | AvatarA | ripero, you could try to do some manual inspection in aptitude's text user interface or just use the method that removes the least packages |
| 02:42.54 | AvatarA | and reinstall the removed packages afterwards |
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| 02:46.09 | ripero | somiaj: libcurl3-gnutls depends on librtmp1 (>= 2.4+20131018.git79459a2-3~) and libgnutls-deb0-28 (>= 3.3.15-5), librtmp1 depends on libhogweed2 and libnettle4, but libgnutls-deb0-28 conflicts libhogweed2 and libnettle4 |
| 02:47.48 | somiaj | ripero: you can use apt-cache policy packagename to see what versions are supplied by streetch. But chance are once you find the depednecy issue check the BTS to see if it has been reported. |
| 02:47.50 | ripero | AvatarA: thank you, but if there's a problem of incompatibility of libraries I cannot risk losing essential software |
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| 02:48.14 | nak | DJ_Bitcon sadly i think i forgot the password :{ |
| 02:48.29 | DJ_Bitcon | that's the worst part |
| 02:48.46 | bytemonkey | is forever really a long time? |
| 02:48.48 | bytemonkey | j/k |
| 02:48.57 | nak | DJ_Bitcon so it's probably unrecoverable, yes ? |
| 02:49.21 | Tordek | nak: just call the NSA and ask nicely |
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| 02:49.36 | DJ_Bitcon | well, you might try harder at guessing your password, but I am not aware of recovering these |
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| 02:50.44 | nak | DJ_Bitcon wait hm |
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| 02:51.07 | nak | DJ_Bitcon ok so my device is /dev/sdb1 |
| 02:51.48 | nak | DJ_Bitcon can i just do |
| 02:51.55 | nak | etc /dev/sdb1 /path/to/mount ? |
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| 02:52.20 | nak | DJ_Bitcon or do i have to use the path where the usb device is mounted ? |
| 02:52.21 | jessequinn | has anyone successfully installed GAMESS on jessie? |
| 02:52.48 | DJ_Bitcon | i think in case of encfs, which decrypts a directory, you should use a path where it's mounted |
| 02:52.48 | somiaj | jessequinn: I'm sure the answer to that question is yes. Why not ask the question you have about the game you are intersted in. |
| 02:53.09 | jessequinn | gamess.. is not a game |
| 02:53.15 | DJ_Bitcon | so encfs /mountedpath /anotherpathtodecrypt |
| 02:53.26 | jessequinn | gamess is a computational chemistry program. |
| 02:53.31 | xargs | My brother runs Steam on Debian and plays several games. |
| 02:53.45 | xargs | Ah, heh |
| 02:53.49 | nak | DJ_Bitcon ok so interesting, it's asking me for a "New encfs password" |
| 02:53.54 | somiaj | jessequinn: ahh, didn't realize that. Does it run in linux? You know what sort of requirements it has? |
| 02:53.59 | DJ_Bitcon | humz |
| 02:54.01 | nak | is this going to overwrite anything in the root directory ? |
| 02:54.11 | DJ_Bitcon | yes, don't do that |
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| 02:54.32 | nak | it's possible i'm using the wrong mount path |
| 02:54.38 | nak | how can i find out where /dev/sdb1 is mounted ? |
| 02:54.45 | DJ_Bitcon | mount |
| 02:54.53 | jessequinn | i am having an issue installing the ifort package from intel. i vleive it is installed correctly but gamess does not allow ifort selection. furthermore, if i use gfortran to compile.. i cannot successfully link games 'lked gamess 00' |
| 02:55.02 | nak | DJ_Bitcon ok i was using the right path |
| 02:55.28 | somiaj | jessequinn: I see some software in debian that supports GAMESS data/files (unsure on the details). Would this be something you are intersted in or do you want the actual software you are looking at? |
| 02:55.55 | jessequinn | i have the source.. im unaware of actual prepackaged stuff for debian |
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| 02:56.16 | DJ_Bitcon | nak, show how do you do this at all |
| 02:56.25 | jessequinn | im trying to get the actual software to compile and link succesfully. |
| 02:56.28 | somiaj | jessequinn: apt-cache search gamess returns things that support GAMESS in some way, but I don't think it is gamess |
| 02:56.48 | somiaj | jessequinn: but back to your problem, what form did the package come in? a .tar.gz (or other archive) you have to compile? |
| 02:57.01 | jessequinn | gamess is considered non-free.. which it isnt.. just requires registration |
| 02:57.20 | jessequinn | suffice it to say.. gamess is free. |
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| 02:58.11 | somiaj | jessequinn: that is non-free by debian. Espically since debian would not be allowed to distribute it (part of being free). But that is besides the point, DSFG and free to use are different. |
| 02:58.13 | DJ_Bitcon | nak, also check the mounted usb path for a file named .encfs* |
| 02:58.26 | somiaj | jessequinn: are you installing on 32bit or 64bit? |
| 02:58.44 | somiaj | ,v gfortran |
| 02:58.45 | judd | Package: gfortran on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; sid: 4:5.2.1-4; stretch: 4:5.2.1-4 |
| 02:58.52 | jessequinn | it requires registration as the authorts want to know who is using it |
| 02:58.56 | jessequinn | authors |
| 02:59.03 | jessequinn | academic purposes |
| 02:59.22 | somiaj | jessequinn: correct, and so its license doesn't meant DSFG. But either way, I'll try to see why you aren't able to compile it. |
| 02:59.28 | jessequinn | soruce .tar.gz |
| 02:59.39 | jessequinn | soruce* |
| 02:59.53 | somiaj | jessequinn: yea, I found this page http://www.webmo.net/support/gamess_linux.html, I assume this is what you are using? |
| 02:59.56 | jessequinn | actually i see no erros in the compilation |
| 02:59.58 | somiaj | jessequinn: so 32bit or 64bit isntall? |
| 03:00.03 | jessequinn | 64bit |
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| 03:00.27 | jessequinn | when i try to link i get an undefined reference to 'dladdr' |
| 03:00.36 | jessequinn | ld returned 1 exit status |
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| 03:02.43 | jessequinn | it may have something to do with mkl from intel |
| 03:02.54 | somiaj | jessequinn: I'm not familar enough with what you are doing to be of much more help. Looks like it is possible to install in linux, but also looks like it requires a bit more than just running a build script. |
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| 03:03.23 | somiaj | jessequinn: as an alternative I see openbabel or jmol that supports GAMESS files in debian. But this may not be what you are after. |
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| 03:03.36 | jessequinn | they process the output |
| 03:03.45 | jessequinn | im looking to actually compute the output |
| 03:03.48 | jessequinn | if you know what i mean |
| 03:04.05 | jessequinn | the calculations are performed by gamess |
| 03:04.07 | somiaj | again I'm not familar enough with the software to be of much help. |
| 03:04.12 | jessequinn | yah no worries |
| 03:04.19 | jessequinn | im going to avoid mkl/ifort |
| 03:04.22 | jessequinn | look at atlas.. etc. |
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| 03:18.14 | Nik05 | Anyone experience with XCompose? |
| 03:19.18 | ripero | system seemed ok, but kind of broken after reboot (windows not selected have a black header background, network manager tries to connect to IPv6 and its icon appears and disappears constantly) |
| 03:19.36 | ripero | any ideas? |
| 03:19.49 | Nik05 | you upgraded everything? |
| 03:20.08 | ripero | Nik05: no, stopped after the upgrade (couldn't make the dist-upgrade work at all) |
| 03:20.29 | Nik05 | so you have half the packages in stable and other half in testing? |
| 03:20.43 | ripero | yep |
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| 03:22.38 | AvatarA | that's why I recommended what I did :) |
| 03:22.48 | AvatarA | can't be worse then where you are now |
| 03:23.02 | AvatarA | than* |
| 03:23.05 | ripero | yes - I could not have X |
| 03:23.23 | AvatarA | impossible |
| 03:23.32 | AvatarA | that would mean everybody on stretch would suffer the same issue |
| 03:25.13 | AvatarA | I can't speak for your setup, but I have a standard gnome desktop on stretch plus a few other packages and I see no conflicts at this moment |
| 03:26.23 | ripero | would you mind telling me what versions of libcurl3-gnutls, librtmp1, libgnutls-deb0-28, libhogweed2 and libnettle4 you have? |
| 03:26.52 | somiaj | ripero: you can use apt-cache policy packagename to see what versions are avialble to you. |
| 03:26.58 | AvatarA | last time there were some conflicts when important libraries were upgraded, some packages depended on lib1(old) and others used lib1v5(new) |
| 03:27.05 | somiaj | ripero: until you can track down the exact package that has the conflict. |
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| 03:28.13 | AvatarA | lib1 and lib1v5 conflicted so you could not use, say aptitude that depended on lib1 and apt-get that depended on lib1v5 at the same time |
| 03:28.59 | AvatarA | and even that got solved in a few days when aptitude got upgraded too to use the new lib1v5 |
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| 03:30.46 | ripero | I think I found the problem |
| 03:31.05 | ripero | at least something that looks suspicious |
| 03:31.38 | somiaj | yea stuff like this happens in testing/unstable. When a conflict is found I'd see if there is a bug. Usually there is, but if there isn't you should report it. |
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| 03:32.09 | ripero | my version of librtmp1 is from deb-multimedia, and has a version number more recent than the ones of jessie or stretch |
| 03:32.27 | ripero | (deb-multimedia jessie) |
| 03:32.56 | solenoids | dpkg has the option --force-confdef and --force-confold, what are the equivalant options for apt-get? |
| 03:32.57 | dpkg | solenoids: what are you talking about? |
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| 03:33.45 | ripero | is there any way to install an "older" package without removing the "new" one? |
| 03:34.13 | AvatarA | that's a path to other possible problems |
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| 03:35.16 | somiaj | ripero: snapshot.debian.org contains older versions of packages. But note it could take lots of manaully playing around to fix your dependency issues. Just be careful. |
| 03:35.55 | AvatarA | there's also the issue with postinst scripts which don't take downgrading into account since it's not normal behavior |
| 03:36.23 | AvatarA | although small % chance of something going wrong, why take any chances when you don't need to? |
| 03:36.58 | somiaj | I personally would start looking for bug reports. Sometimes they give workarounds |
| 03:37.22 | AvatarA | just use the upgrade method that removes the least packages, save the list of removed packages in a file, reinstall them |
| 03:37.40 | AvatarA | also, if it removes a big part of gnome you can just apt-get install task-gnome-desktop which will bring everything back |
| 03:37.48 | AvatarA | and then reinstall the other packages that were removed |
| 03:37.52 | ripero | it was a multimedia package - and at least now dist-upgrade doesn't go crazy |
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| 03:39.43 | LinuxJJ | Hi I just bought a Thinkpad T60 to install LibreBoot and Debian to but I can't seem to find the display panel type from lspci, hwinfo and a few other commands any suggestions other than taking it apart and looking on the panel itself? |
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| 03:43.52 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: there is nothing that say VGA or hints to a video device? |
| 03:44.33 | LinuxJJ | rabbiteal- display 1 is unclaimed |
| 03:44.40 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: specially with the T60, actually any intel/amd based machine, should be there |
| 03:45.01 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: what does xrandr say? or are you not in X? |
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| 03:45.28 | LinuxJJ | xrandr is a command with xorg? |
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| 03:46.21 | rabbitea1 | 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) <-- that is what it will look like [thats on my machine tho] |
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| 03:46.42 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: yes, xrandr is.... really the lspci should pick it up |
| 03:47.21 | LinuxJJ | xrandr gives no model |
| 03:47.51 | rabbitea1 | there is also the lshw command .. can apt-get that |
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| 03:49.20 | nak | DJ_Bitcon ok i just had to reload my image on the thumb drive |
| 03:49.24 | LinuxJJ | rabbiteal: http://pastebin.com/HKtwHa8j |
| 03:49.29 | nak | because that initial encfs call seemed to somehow wreck it |
| 03:50.16 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: |
| 03:50.17 | rabbitea1 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 03:50.20 | rabbitea1 | 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 03:50.23 | rabbitea1 | ^ those are it |
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| 03:51.02 | LinuxJJ | rabbiteal: Im looking for the specific model of the panel unless im missing it in those |
| 03:51.25 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: ahh, might have to look up its S/N number online |
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| 03:51.55 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: either on fcc's website or lenovo's, maybe just search |
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| 03:52.20 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: serial number and model number |
| 03:53.04 | LinuxJJ | so rabbiteal I cant do it with a command? I have to take this apart to get the screen SN? |
| 03:54.48 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: not the screen SN, but computer's Model and S/N would tell you the complete specs somewhere on the net |
| 03:55.02 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: unless somebody replaced its screen since you've got it |
| 03:55.31 | rabbitea1 | LinuxJJ: but even then, maybe only that type of screen would work in that specific computer |
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| 04:43.45 | Yuvraj | Hello, everybody |
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| 04:44.41 | Yuvraj | How to install dependent software with debian package. If it's create from our source code. |
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| 04:45.25 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 04:46.03 | Yuvraj | if anybody know about it. |
| 04:46.06 | Yuvraj | please help me |
| 04:46.15 | tite12345 | How do I permanently disable touchpad and have it only enabled when I explicitly do so? Like I only want it enabled when I go to settings -> toucpad. |
| 04:46.30 | tite12345 | It's annoying because it gets enabled whenever I unplug the mouse. |
| 04:46.39 | tite12345 | Yeah that's helpful but that's not what I want. |
| 04:47.06 | tite12345 | I know how to enable the touchpad using just the keyboard. |
| 04:47.12 | tite12345 | Could you guys help me? |
| 04:47.56 | Yuvraj | please help me guys please |
| 04:48.11 | Yuvraj | i am in trouble. |
| 04:48.19 | Yuvraj | How to install dependent software with debian package. If it's create from our source code. |
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| 04:49.44 | Yuvraj | Could you guys help me? |
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| 04:53.45 | Yuvraj | anybody, can you help me? |
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| 04:55.40 | Yuvraj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:58.02 | beergear | Yuvraj: what's up? |
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| 05:01.01 | Yuvraj | How to install dependent software with debian package. If it's create from our source code. |
| 05:01.07 | Yuvraj | i have this problem. |
| 05:01.15 | Yuvraj | please help me. |
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| 05:02.43 | Yuvraj | beergear please help me. |
| 05:02.45 | beergear | oh I see |
| 05:02.58 | Yuvraj | yep |
| 05:03.07 | beergear | you mean you are creating a .deb package and it needs dependancies |
| 05:03.10 | beergear | ? |
| 05:03.17 | Yuvraj | yes |
| 05:03.42 | beergear | I'm not super familliar with this but here https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html#control |
| 05:04.45 | beergear | https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/debian-packaging.html |
| 05:05.05 | Yuvraj | ok |
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| 05:05.19 | Yuvraj | let's me check out it. |
| 05:05.28 | Yuvraj | thanks beergear |
| 05:05.39 | beergear | np :) |
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| 05:23.48 | Stawidy | ,kernels |
| 05:23.50 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-trunk-686-pae (4.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u6) |
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| 05:31.00 | Yuvraj | How to install dependent software with debian package. If it's create from our source code. |
| 05:31.15 | Yuvraj | Could you guys help me? |
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| 05:34.31 | well_laid_lawn | Yuvraj: see if this helps http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8477036/how-to-make-debian-package-install-dependencies |
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| 05:57.45 | Yuvraj | Hello, guys |
| 05:57.56 | Yuvraj | i have problem. Please help me |
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| 06:05.38 | Yuvraj | guys please help me. |
| 06:05.44 | Yuvraj | i am in trouble. |
| 06:06.06 | somiaj | !ask |
| 06:06.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 06:08.29 | Yuvraj | i am creating debian package from our source code. I need install some other software with that package like scrot and wmctrl. |
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| 06:08.49 | Yuvraj | i try to install that software with preinst file |
| 06:09.31 | Yuvraj | but could not success. So, please let me know. how to install that softwares with debian package? |
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| 06:15.20 | themill | Yuvraj: your package should list dependencies as Depends in debian/control, not try to install things from maintainer scripts |
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| 06:16.30 | Yuvraj | themill you mean, i should list that software list in Depends section in control |
| 06:16.32 | waressearcher2 | Yuvraj: what is "scrot" for ? |
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| 06:17.28 | Yuvraj | waressearcher2: this is software that take screenshot |
| 06:17.42 | Yuvraj | of your machine |
| 06:18.34 | themill | dpkg: tell Yuvraj about nmg |
| 06:18.38 | Yuvraj | themill: control/ Depends: (node >= 0.10.4) |
| 06:18.55 | waressearcher2 | Yuvraj: sounds like scrotum |
| 06:19.05 | Yuvraj | like it, i need to write in control file |
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| 06:20.03 | Yuvraj | waressearcher2: no it's scrot |
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| 06:22.07 | Yuvraj | dpkg: please help me |
| 06:22.07 | dpkg | Yuvraj: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
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| 06:23.40 | Yuvraj | dpkg: i am install third party software with preinst in our debian package |
| 06:23.40 | dpkg | You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, Yuvraj |
| 06:23.41 | Yuvraj | like |
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| 06:23.42 | Yuvraj | # install screenshot capture third party software if [ ! -f /usr/bin/scrot ]; then sudo apt-get -f install scrot fi # install running applications if [ ! -f /usr/bin/wmctrl ]; then sudo apt-get -f install wmctrl fi |
| 06:23.44 | Yuvraj | this |
| 06:23.48 | themill | no, don't do that |
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| 06:23.53 | Ofloo | dpkg -i <package> |
| 06:23.54 | dpkg | installs <package> into ofloo's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 06:23.54 | Yuvraj | ok |
| 06:24.00 | Ofloo | sudo apt-get install -f |
| 06:24.07 | Ofloo | dpkg -i <package> again |
| 06:24.07 | dpkg | removes a speen from ofloo and replaces it with <package> again |
| 06:24.13 | themill | Ofloo: enough, thanks |
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| 06:24.29 | themill | Yuvraj: your package should just depend on scrot |
| 06:24.53 | Yuvraj | yes, scrot and wmctrl both |
| 06:25.00 | bugreport | can anybody tell me how to find out the version of util-linux on debian? |
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| 06:25.28 | themill | Yuvraj: yes |
| 06:28.20 | themill | dpkg: tell bugreport about version |
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| 06:28.20 | cujotus | gonna think linux outside |
| 06:28.20 | gigos | Hi go a laptop with antergos linux on it - grub menu is safe - problem booting shows error (shut down during update) : I am thinking gparted to create new partition then backup and reintall everything is it the best approach ? thanks guyz |
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| 06:28.20 | bugreport | themill: I dont want the individual package version |
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| 06:28.20 | themill | bugreport: you might need to explain what you do what then |
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| 06:29.01 | bugreport | themill: I want the version of util-linux (which is collection of other packages/commands ? ) |
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| 06:29.28 | gigos | Hi go a laptop with antergos linux on it - grub menu is safe - problem booting shows error (shut down during update) : I am thinking gparted to create new partition then backup and reintall everything is it the best approach ? Any body ? |
| 06:29.37 | AvatarA | bugreport, apt-cache show util-linux |
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| 06:31.42 | themill | bugreport: and what is the version of util-linux other than what dpkg told you? |
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| 06:34.14 | gigos | Hi go a laptop with antergos linux on it - grub menu is safe - problem booting shows error (shut down during update) : I am thinking gparted to create new partition then backup and reintall everything is it the best approach ?how would you fix that ? plz ! ? |
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| 06:35.19 | themill | gigos: antergos doesn't sound much like debian. Perhaps ##linux can help you if antergos doesn't have a channel. |
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| 06:36.16 | gigos | thanks themill |
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| 07:17.12 | tuxy | hmm why is #debian-next invite only? |
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| 07:18.55 | themill | tuxy: it's not on this irc network |
| 07:19.10 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 07:19.10 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 07:39.50 | MACscr | Im running 8.2 |
| 07:40.13 | MACscr | i think this is probably some sort of conflict with my 10gb mellanox ethernet drivers, but no idea how i can solve it |
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| 08:24.57 | darxmurf | I'm still fighting with this fooking ssh -X and nvidia/opengl stuff... |
| 08:25.29 | darxmurf | I have this Debian 8.2 running with an GeForce card. |
| 08:25.52 | darxmurf | my colleague can ssh -X on it from his old debian and run a software using OPENGL |
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| 08:26.03 | darxmurf | when I do exactly the same, I have this response |
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| 08:26.48 | darxmurf | http://pastebin.com/RQ5RijHc |
| 08:27.08 | darxmurf | my debian is a testing, running a quadro K600 graphic card |
| 08:27.23 | darxmurf | my colleague is running a debian 7.x with a quadro 600 card |
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| 08:27.46 | darxmurf | I have nothing im the logs (messages, syslog) either on my machine or on the remote one |
| 08:27.55 | chele | Detected a mismatch between CUDA runtime and GPU driver ? |
| 08:28.17 | darxmurf | but why the hell is it working from my colleague machine Oo |
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| 08:28.26 | darxmurf | same if we run glxinfo |
| 08:28.44 | chele | Why do you see such warning if its the same? |
| 08:28.44 | darxmurf | on my side it returns an error, on his side we got card informations |
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| 08:29.51 | darxmurf | my colleague got also the warning about cuda runtime and GPU driver |
| 08:30.06 | darxmurf | I tried different nvidia drivers (from nvidia site). I tried also the debian nvidia driver |
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| 08:33.45 | anddam | how often does ntp resync time? |
| 08:34.32 | anddam | I had a vm whose state was saved and then restarted after a few days, the date stayed out of sync for two days after the restart, I had to manually run dpkg-reconfigure ntp to resync it |
| 08:35.46 | ChrisH | anddam: ntp does not work very well with VMs, move to chrony. NTP's algorithm does not converg for time delta > 1000 sec |
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| 08:40.19 | berarma | darxmurf, I guess your remote configurations must be different. Are you using different remote users? |
| 08:40.47 | darxmurf | yep |
| 08:40.56 | darxmurf | hmmm I should try with my user from his computer |
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| 08:41.14 | berarma | could you try with his user? Since I think it should work in your computer with his user. |
| 08:41.27 | berarma | or the other way around, yep |
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| 08:55.22 | darxmurf | it works from his machine with my user |
| 08:55.27 | darxmurf | fook it |
| 08:55.59 | darxmurf | it can be a conflict with my machine/drivers and the remote one ? |
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| 08:57.45 | AndreasLutro | over the week, it seems terminal font rendering has changed in debian testing. any idea what could cause this? before: http://i.imgur.com/TtHfUvv.png?1 after: http://i.imgur.com/1B9XW7F.png?1 - I'm using i3, urxvt with a ttf font |
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| 08:58.46 | darxmurf | have a look on "Terminus" |
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| 09:00.30 | AndreasLutro | not really interested in changing fonts, just want to find out what could have caused this change |
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| 09:02.28 | darxmurf | ah |
| 09:02.32 | darxmurf | no idea:) |
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| 09:02.57 | darxmurf | okay, let's fight with nvidia drivers... |
| 09:02.58 | darxmurf | see you |
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| 09:12.09 | berarma | !ntfs |
| 09:12.09 | dpkg | Windows NT File System (NTFS) has drivers available in Debian: the read-only Linux kernel driver and a <FUSE> driver providing write support. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also <ntfsclone>, <label>. http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
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| 09:19.50 | anddam | ChrisH: got it, thx |
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| 09:42.35 | otyugh | is there a general tool in debian to benchmark the performance of a computer ? I might be renovating old systems and I think it would a be a good indicator to know what to expect before taking time to renew them. |
| 09:44.25 | Chico | Is there a kernel >4.0 in the debian package sources for Jessie? |
| 09:44.33 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 09:44.34 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-trunk-686-pae (4.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u6) |
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| 09:44.44 | jelly | dpkg, tell Chico about jessie-backports |
| 09:44.49 | jelly | dpkg, tell Chico about bdo kernel |
| 09:44.54 | woffs | otyugh: there are some tools, but IMO the best is just to install plain debian and browse some sites, play videos, do the stuff you want to do, and get a Eindruck. |
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| 09:45.38 | polis | salve |
| 09:45.43 | polis | !list |
| 09:45.43 | dpkg | polis: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 09:45.51 | Chico | ah great so which is better to use bdo kernel or backport? |
| 09:46.02 | jelly | Chico: that's one same thing |
| 09:46.14 | Chico | ah ok thx |
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| 09:46.38 | Chico | so much names in ubuntu they call it mainline kernel :) |
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| 09:49.27 | freakyy | hi all. what is a good tool to find file duplicates on the command line (server)? |
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| 09:50.06 | woffs | freakyy: fdupes, or hardlink |
| 09:51.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi. I built a kernel from sources, then edited a source file. How do I make it rebuild? This will simply recreate packages from the old build: fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_amd64_none_amd64 |
| 09:51.09 | woffs | freakyy: that's what I use. There's duff, too |
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| 09:51.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | I don't want to rebuild the whole thing though, just pick up changes. |
| 09:51.27 | freakyy | ok thank you :) |
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| 09:56.03 | lello21 | !list |
| 09:56.04 | dpkg | lello21: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 09:58.25 | darxmurf | hi again |
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| 09:59.15 | darxmurf | not working either with the debian nvidia driver package |
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| 10:00.33 | dpkg | lello21: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 10:01.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah, |
| 10:01.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | I just have to rm debian/stamps/build-arch_amd64_none_amd64 |
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| 10:12.29 | darxmurf | here is what I get when I launch glxinfo or vmd (chemistry software) from ssh -X ... http://pastebin.com/S7ej4wt0 |
| 10:12.41 | darxmurf | my colleague can run it without problem Oo |
| 10:13.06 | darxmurf | I tried nvidia drivers from their website, drivers from debian repo |
| 10:13.08 | darxmurf | different versions |
| 10:13.51 | rabbitea1 | darxmurf: try wayland |
| 10:13.54 | darxmurf | impossible to launch them from my debian testing |
| 10:14.36 | darxmurf | but why the hell is it working fine from the machine next to me, running a debian 7.x ? |
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| 10:15.09 | debian8xfce | where are the iceweasel's files? |
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| 10:16.02 | darxmurf | debian8xfce: ~/.mozilla/firefox ? |
| 10:16.17 | darxmurf | talking about cache and all ? |
| 10:16.38 | debian8xfce | no, the program folder |
| 10:16.57 | debian8xfce | I need to add a dictionary |
| 10:16.58 | darxmurf | which iceweasel |
| 10:17.04 | darxmurf | /usr/bin/iceweasel ? |
| 10:17.06 | debian8xfce | and they are stored not in the profile folder |
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| 10:17.40 | debian8xfce | darxmurf: that's a path to binary |
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| 10:17.59 | darxmurf | is it a home made dictionary ? |
| 10:18.03 | debian8xfce | no |
| 10:18.17 | darxmurf | usuall you can install it simply by clicking on the link from mozilla webpage |
| 10:18.22 | darxmurf | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/ |
| 10:18.57 | debian8xfce | mozilla webpage doesn't have a link to that dictionary |
| 10:19.12 | debian8xfce | + afair it installs a dict as an extension, which is weird |
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| 10:19.39 | debian8xfce | a dict is just an *.aff and *.dic file |
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| 10:21.32 | debian8xfce | thunar has no search for file function :( |
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| 10:22.23 | wam | Hi, I want to provide a single file from a program. This file will be virtually driven by some program (i.e. seek, read, write). That's the same as FUSE does, but I only need this for one file. I was thinking about pipes, but afaik they don't support seek. I would like to have a very small requirements list so FUSE would be only my 2nd choice. Any ideas? |
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| 10:23.34 | darxmurf | debian8xfce: use "find2 |
| 10:23.37 | darxmurf | "find" |
| 10:24.27 | rabbitea1 | find1.2 |
| 10:24.55 | debian8xfce | how to search with regex support? |
| 10:25.13 | rabbitea1 | -regex '<regex>' |
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| 10:25.28 | rabbitea1 | use the quotes debian8xfce .. its easier |
| 10:25.44 | rabbitea1 | os picks up all chars |
| 10:26.13 | debian8xfce | I used find -regex '*\.aff' and it found nothing, although clearly I have at least 2 *.aff files |
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| 10:26.58 | themill | '*\.aff' is not a valid regex |
| 10:27.12 | debian8xfce | .*\.aff then? |
| 10:27.29 | debian8xfce | yeah, thx |
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| 10:27.41 | debian8xfce | there are just 2 standards |
| 10:27.48 | debian8xfce | plain regex and simplified |
| 10:27.56 | debian8xfce | windows search uses simplified |
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| 10:28.05 | themill | I don't know any regex dialect where * is allowed on its own |
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| 10:28.15 | darxmurf | find / -type f -name "*.aff" |
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| 10:28.50 | darxmurf | why do you want to use regex ? :) |
| 10:29.02 | rabbitea1 | why do you keep saying simplified? regex is regex debian8xfce |
| 10:30.00 | debian8xfce | weird, so the .aff that I found are located in a /usr/share/hunspell/ folder |
| 10:30.17 | debian8xfce | but thunar doesn't let me copy new dict files there |
| 10:30.32 | debian8xfce | maybe he's got good reasons to stop me? |
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| 10:30.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | wam, what is your usecase? |
| 10:30.46 | debian8xfce | or should I just sudo? |
| 10:30.53 | rabbitea1 | debian8xfce: make yourself have access |
| 10:31.15 | wam | Eduard_Munteanu: I have a VM image split into 4MB blocks in a backup volume and want to show them in 1 file (.img). |
| 10:31.36 | wam | so that I can mount it ;) |
| 10:31.39 | rabbitea1 | access to write is completely different from..... what was it? |
| 10:31.57 | rabbitea1 | regex |
| 10:32.19 | debian8xfce | restarting icewizzel |
| 10:32.38 | rabbitea1 | she can't hold no more captain |
| 10:33.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | wam, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/94041/a-virtual-file-containing-the-concatenation-of-other-files |
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| 10:34.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | dmsetup seems like the way to go |
| 10:34.56 | rabbitea1 | don't know what that is Eduard_Munteanu |
| 10:35.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | rabbitea1, that was for wam |
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| 10:35.44 | wam | Eduard_Munteanu: wow, never seen that. Thanks a lot. Very good hit. |
| 10:35.52 | debian8xfce | yay, it wurked |
| 10:36.17 | rabbitea1 | \o/ |
| 10:36.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | wam, I googled "linux concatenate devices", BTW. |
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| 10:37.18 | wam | I googled "linux provide file with read and write bindings to a program" |
| 10:37.20 | wam | lol |
| 10:37.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | :) |
| 10:37.41 | Eduard_Munteanu | sometimes feels like googling "halp!" |
| 10:38.16 | debian8xfce | always screams 'halp!' out from a window |
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| 10:52.03 | khazakar | Hi all! Somebody's use a oss4 on Debian machine? |
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| 10:52.58 | user_ | hi |
| 10:53.39 | user_ | this may sound stupid, but when I boot up in a live session with bunsen the resolution options don't go high enough |
| 10:53.49 | user_ | so my screen looks weird |
| 10:54.02 | user_ | and with crunchbang waldorf it worked automatically |
| 10:54.03 | towo^work | bunsen? |
| 10:54.21 | towo^work | all that is not a topic for #debian |
| 10:54.33 | user_ | sorry, wrong room |
| 10:54.43 | user_ | it is debian, bunsen labs. wrong room tho |
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| 10:56.11 | khazakar | Using OSS4,input mixed with output. ;_; |
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| 10:56.47 | khazakar | And no int-mic working |
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| 11:05.19 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 11:06.01 | Agiofws | is it possible to get a debian 7 package work/install on debian 8 ? i don't want to downgrade is that possible? |
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| 11:07.21 | Agiofws | anyone? |
| 11:07.47 | ewew | Agiofws About what package are you talking ? |
| 11:07.49 | rabbitea1 | yes |
| 11:08.23 | Agiofws | i'm talking about https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx |
| 11:08.29 | rabbitea1 | Agiofws: a better question would be have you done this before? |
| 11:08.57 | Agiofws | i'm on jessie but that package does not exist for it. |
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| 11:09.35 | Agiofws | and i need it to get my gfx card work right because i think nouvea driver i think is causing some apps to segfault |
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| 11:10.26 | Agiofws | and maybe is the cause that my host won;t recover from suspend not sure though |
| 11:10.28 | ewew | Agiofws What graphic card are you using ? type./ |
| 11:10.39 | Agiofws | its a geforece 5700 series |
| 11:10.58 | Agiofws | if it was a 6000 series i'd install the 340-legasy drivers |
| 11:11.45 | Agiofws | could i just run nvidias binary i've downloaded from there site? |
| 11:12.03 | ewew | Agiofws Dont know for sure, but it might be droped from support. Wait for someone who have more details. |
| 11:12.48 | Agiofws | well then how can i install that package on jessie is it possible? |
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| 11:21.51 | rabbitea1 | Agiofws: you can, it'll be fine, you'll just have a bunch of stuff on your computer |
| 11:22.54 | rabbitea1 | Agiofws: I was scrolled up, but I'm going to bed |
| 11:22.57 | rabbitea1 | peace |
| 11:26.18 | rabbitea1 | nite |
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| 11:27.08 | Dev0n | hey, is there a way to see who or what ran a system reboot? my who -b returns system boot |
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| 11:27.39 | Dev0n | Is "system boot" caused by some sort of service running in debian? |
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| 11:29.11 | Agiofws | rabbitea1, how can i ? |
| 11:29.39 | Agiofws | how do i install it on debian 8 ? |
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| 11:32.39 | trewas | Agiofws: afaik you can't, at least without downgrading all of xorg |
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| 11:44.22 | msn | how do I add a private CA certificate to debian jks store |
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| 11:50.47 | randommm | hi guys for a wrong configuration in the source.list I have right now this situation "etc/issue -> stretch/sid. I would like to stay in stable or at least testing, not unstable. Any suggestions? |
| 11:51.14 | ewew | randommm Did you upgrade some packages ? |
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| 11:53.47 | themill | randommm: /etc/issue doesn't control what release you're running |
| 11:54.07 | rampageripper | the keyboard presses will not take effect as it used to>why is that? |
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| 11:54.52 | ewew | rampageripper What do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 11:57.16 | rampageripper | ewew: |
| 11:57.17 | rampageripper | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 11:57.19 | rampageripper | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 11:57.20 | rampageripper | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
| 11:57.22 | rampageripper | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
| 11:57.23 | rampageripper | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main |
| 11:57.25 | rampageripper | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main |
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| 11:57.57 | rampageripper | oops,sorry |
| 11:58.12 | randommm | ewew, yes I realized I had still "testing" set |
| 11:58.26 | randommm | ewew, too late. So now the question is: can I "downgrade" to stable or not? |
| 11:59.54 | themill | randommm: no |
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| 12:00.21 | rampageripper | i should have pasted this |
| 12:02.28 | randommm | themill, what should I do? Reinstall?? |
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| 12:02.47 | randommm | themill, I wanted to avoid that... |
| 12:03.28 | SynrG | you said you wanted "at least testing", not unstable. well, if you had testing in your sources.list, you're there |
| 12:03.38 | SynrG | the /etc/issue "stretch/sid" appears for both testing and for unstable. |
| 12:03.57 | SynrG | so if you want to avoid a reinstall, just stick with testing |
| 12:04.01 | ripero | there's nothing better to start the week than sleep deprivation due to spending 4h sorting out a problematic dist-upgrade |
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| 12:04.41 | randommm | SynrG, where can I check my exact "position"? |
| 12:04.48 | SynrG | randommm: also see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net where we support testing and unstable |
| 12:05.05 | themill | randommm: it's whatever you have configured in your sources.list and pinning |
| 12:05.09 | SynrG | randommm: what do you mean? if you never had 'unstable' or 'sid' in there, there's no way you're on it. |
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| 12:05.37 | SynrG | randommm: because testing and unstable are ever changing, "my exact position" is meaningless |
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| 12:06.23 | SynrG | randommm: and that's the reason for /etc/issue saying what it does. there's no way to know, aside from what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and as themill said, your pinning |
| 12:06.31 | ewew | randommm https://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 12:06.58 | ewew | randommm https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html |
| 12:07.09 | randommm | SynrG, I think the problem was that I was tracking testing before jessie became stable.. but then I just left testing on |
| 12:07.25 | SynrG | randommm: if you don't like surprises like that, use codenames |
| 12:07.52 | randommm | SynrG, true story, just now I need to know what to do |
| 12:08.13 | randommm | avoiding reinstall |
| 12:08.15 | SynrG | randommm: you said you want to be on stable "or at least testing". well, you're on testing. seems like you should be satisfied :) |
| 12:08.33 | SynrG | and go to #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for support |
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| 12:09.04 | randommm | SynrG, yes but at some point I changed the repos to stable :) |
| 12:09.06 | SynrG | if you want to remain on stretch from now on, just s/testing/stretch/ |
| 12:09.09 | randommm | SynrG, so I should change back to the testing codename and just update right? |
| 12:09.14 | SynrG | oh, then s/stable/stretch/ |
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| 12:09.24 | smhar | greetings |
| 12:09.39 | SynrG | well, or to 'stretch' since you seem to have a problem with forgetting after the release comes out, and then ending up on the 'wrong' release |
| 12:09.47 | randommm | SynrG, exactly |
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| 12:10.45 | randommm | thx guys I will backup and try to upgrade... |
| 12:12.18 | smhar | SOS, I installed debian from a net-install CD on my wife's windows 8 laptop. I resized the partition and creted /swap and / and installed with no problem. I installed grub on mvr.. mistake. Now debian boots but although windows in listed in grub menu it gives a 'failed to start error'. I verified that windows partition and files are there. I do not have access to a repair disk. all recovery tools are in the recovery partitions |
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| 12:14.56 | jordila | hi #debian |
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| 12:21.42 | Voyager_MP | Hi, I need some help with a bind9 problem :-) |
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| 12:22.02 | Voyager_MP | Hope anyone can read german http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=158276 |
| 12:22.12 | Stummi | Voyager_MP, theres #debian.de |
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| 12:22.43 | Voyager_MP | it's not a debian problem |
| 12:23.03 | Voyager_MP | it's a question of DNS |
| 12:23.22 | Stummi | and #debian is the better place for a german question about DNS than #debian.de? |
| 12:23.50 | Stummi | Voyager_MP, I think #bind and/or #dns should exist too |
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| 12:25.44 | Voyager_MP | is there a way to tell bind to search the forward if no subdomain is specified ? |
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| 12:26.29 | Voyager_MP | usualy I would put the subdomain in resolv.conf, than it works, but I cant do that, so I need to find a bind solution |
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| 12:26.59 | winem_ | hi, let's say I want to checkout a repository from github (source code is written in C) and I don't want to compile it again and again. instead, I want to build a .deb-package 1) that I add to our internal repository server and 2) that is build in a way that it's reproducable for others if I push some config files, e.g. back to the original authors repository |
| 12:27.24 | winem_ | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/start.en.html is this the easiest way or are there other tools you recommend? |
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| 12:28.17 | Voyager_MP | Hi, I need some help with a bind problem |
| 12:28.40 | Voyager_MP | I described it here : http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=158276 |
| 12:28.47 | p8m | Voyager_MP: You're still in #debian :) |
| 12:29.00 | Voyager_MP | oh sorry :-) |
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| 12:39.15 | wiuempe | hello, any one know how to create dpkg control with Depends from to version? |
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| 12:42.19 | Sir_Designer | wiuempe man 5 deb-control |
| 12:43.04 | wiuempe | Sir_Designer: in man it isn;t describe |
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| 12:45.26 | Sir_Designer | wiuempe in man it only has a way to list packages, not debian distro version. |
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| 12:46.44 | wiuempe | Sir_Designer: yes, i know. I create package with depends from other package (=>0.85 to 0.91) and i dont know hwo to write this version |
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| 12:50.54 | Sir_Designer | wiuempe as far as I know, if you already have this knowledge, you just type the information by hand and save it in a text editor |
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| 12:51.35 | wiuempe | Sir_Designer: yes of course... but how to write logical operator and in version? (>= 0.85 && <0.91)? |
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| 12:52.37 | themill | wiuempe: you don't need to do so, just list the dependency twice, once for each relationship |
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| 12:53.14 | wiuempe | themill: package (>= 0.85), package (<0.91) ? |
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| 12:53.23 | themill | yes |
| 12:53.53 | jelly | mind the syntax, including whitespace and << Depends: foo (>= 0.85), foo (<< 0.91) |
| 12:54.10 | wiuempe | ok, thanks ;) |
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| 12:58.20 | mwarning1 | hi, where can I download .deb files? (for wheezy) |
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| 13:00.15 | themill | mwarning1: that is apt's job -- what are you trying to achieve? |
| 13:01.13 | mwarning1 | themill: I like to try to install a wheezy package on squeeze |
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| 13:01.47 | mwarning1 | I want to see if it works without pulling any other dependencies from wheezy |
| 13:01.48 | themill | where could it possibly go wrong? |
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| 13:02.04 | mwarning1 | there is a lot that could go wrong, sure |
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| 13:02.39 | mwarning1 | but the package is not available for squeeze (too old) |
| 13:02.52 | themill | sounds like it's time to upgrade |
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| 13:03.11 | mwarning1 | it is a legacy system, update is possible (sadly) |
| 13:03.18 | mwarning1 | *is not |
| 13:03.50 | themill | well if you're prepared to try that, that's clearly not trye |
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| 13:04.49 | mwarning1 | well, I want to give it a try |
| 13:05.12 | mwarning1 | but I do not know where I can download deb files via my browser |
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| 13:08.42 | Brigo | mwarning1, what file do you want to download? |
| 13:08.57 | mwarning1 | bison 2.5 |
| 13:09.05 | mwarning1 | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/bison |
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| 13:09.26 | mwarning1 | there does not seem to be a link to the deb pakcage |
| 13:09.34 | Brigo | mwarning1, you can download it from that page, at the end. |
| 13:09.36 | markybob | mwarning1, not unless you scroll down |
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| 13:10.10 | mwarning1 | ah! |
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| 13:10.17 | mwarning1 | I need to click on the architecture... |
| 13:10.22 | Brigo | mwarning1, i think you better try a backport from wheezy to squeeze. |
| 13:10.26 | markybob | yep. this is a fail waiting to happen |
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| 13:10.59 | mwarning1 | yes, it is risky. |
| 13:11.09 | themill | it's not going to work |
| 13:11.23 | Brigo | themill, the backport? |
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| 13:11.37 | themill | no, the wheezy package in squeeze |
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| 13:12.13 | themill | or backporting, for that matter |
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| 13:13.34 | Sir_Designer | you could compile it from gnu tarball, here http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bison/ |
| 13:13.56 | wiuempe | hmmm... |
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| 13:14.00 | wiuempe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:14.23 | wiuempe | i should change in glpi-plugin-datainjection version from 0.90 to 0.90-1 ? |
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| 13:14.53 | Brigo | themill, why not? for libbison-dev ? |
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| 13:19.54 | medicijnman | hi guys. i cannot fix the alternatives config for java in update-alternatives. update-alternatives tells me this: update-alternatives: error: cannot stat file '/etc/alternatives/java': Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 13:20.50 | medicijnman | the symlink /etc/alternatives/java links to itself. if i remove the file and manually try to override the config setting it does work, but once i run update-alternatives --config java and change the selection it gives me the exact same error |
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| 13:21.53 | medicijnman | the manual told me one could try yes '' | update-alternatives --force --all but that still gives me 'Too many levels of symbolic links' |
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| 13:22.39 | jelly | medicijnman: which debian release are you using? Show the output of "update-alternatives --list java" and "update-java-alternatives --list" |
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| 13:23.40 | jelly | medicijnman: and "ls -ld /etc/alternatives/{jar,java}* "... use paste.debian.net and put everything in a single paste |
| 13:23.42 | medicijnman | here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13298663/ |
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| 13:23.55 | medicijnman | oh ok i'll paste that in another paste |
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| 13:24.19 | jelly | medicijnman: which debian release is this? |
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| 13:24.36 | medicijnman | xubuntu 14.04 |
| 13:24.47 | medicijnman | this is the new paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13298669/ |
| 13:24.54 | jelly | that's a... not debian, y'know |
| 13:25.09 | medicijnman | update-alternatives is created by debian right? |
| 13:25.12 | Haxxa | How can I check last reason for power shutdown? the server was off yet the UPS remained on so - not sure what caused it |
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| 13:26.08 | medicijnman | jelly: #java, #ubuntu nor #xubuntu have helped after asking my question there |
| 13:26.08 | jelly | medicijnman: no idea why "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 nov 16 14:16 /etc/alternatives/java -> /etc/alternatives/java" happens for you, and I don't want to break your OS further. Ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server channel, as appropriate. |
| 13:26.46 | jelly | you can ask here if you can reproduce the issue with actual Debian |
| 13:27.05 | medicijnman | jelly: okay, i guess i have to wait another day then |
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| 13:29.02 | jelly | lots of things are created by debian, but this channel supports debian users, not users of all the software that originated within debian regardless of who distributes it. We don't know if your distro has done any changes, or how broken their packages are. |
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| 13:29.54 | Sir_Designer | Haxxa look through /var/log/messages |
| 13:30.01 | medicijnman | yeah that makes sense. i accidently installed an alternative with the arguments in reversed order and that made update-alternative link that symlink with itself |
| 13:30.23 | jelly | medicijnman: I'll say one thing tho: it's interesting that update-java-alternatives does not know about oracle's java in /opt at all. |
| 13:30.24 | medicijnman | i just want to fix the alternative or reset it |
| 13:30.47 | bazhang | medicijnman, is that ubuntu or debian |
| 13:30.58 | medicijnman | xubuntu 14.04 |
| 13:31.17 | jelly | medicijnman: remove exactly the same alternative as you created |
| 13:31.22 | bazhang | stick to the single post in ubuntu channels then, you are crossposting |
| 13:31.27 | medicijnman | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.53 | medicijnman | bazhang: yeah my bad. i'll try what jelly suggested and continue on the ubuntu channel |
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| 13:33.06 | jelly | medicijnman: also, look at /var/log/alternatives.log; if you're very, VERY careful, you may edit /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/java in place |
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| 13:36.02 | medicijnman | jelly: thanks. i have fixed the problem by editing /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/java directly |
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| 13:40.06 | Haxxa | Sir_Designer, Nothing in there only latest boot log |
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| 13:41.35 | Sir_Designer | Haxxa when a machine overheats, it often has no chance to write anything meaningful to the logs. I suggest monitoring temp. |
| 13:42.25 | Haxxa | Sir_Designer, Nov 16 06:25:07 haxxa rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.4.2" x-pid="1336" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed |
| 13:42.46 | Haxxa | That was first log entry so I know what time it shutdown atleast |
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| 13:43.12 | jelly | Haxxa: that wasn't a shutdown, that was the daily logrotate cron job |
| 13:43.53 | jelly | (06:25 is the default time cron.daily runs, from /etc/crontab) |
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| 13:44.37 | paule32 | hello |
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| 13:45.00 | paule32 | need assistence with squid |
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| 13:45.05 | jelly | !ask |
| 13:45.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 13:45.41 | Haxxa | jelly, Something happened that morning - just prior to shutdown |
| 13:45.41 | Haxxa | Nov 16 06:40:46 haxxa smartd[1251]: Device: /dev/sdg [SAT], SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 113 to 114 |
| 13:45.44 | paule32 | what is the channel-id? |
| 13:45.50 | paule32 | how to define it? |
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| 13:47.59 | jelly | paule32: far as I can tell that's just part of the protocol a helper and squid talk |
| 13:48.13 | paule32 | yes |
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| 13:48.27 | paule32 | external_acl_type blockscript ttl=60 concurrency=5 %LOGIN %DST php /sap/squid/block.sh |
| 13:48.40 | paule32 | concurrency |
| 13:49.06 | jelly | so you don't define it. squid does it, and your script just has to reply with the same id it got |
| 13:49.19 | barb_ | can any one tell me why whether I install from verified copies of jessie kde i386, netinstall with kde option, reinstall kde and kde-fill the desktop is trashed. but gnome-full, fluxbox, icewm work fine on my friends hp pavilion slimline? |
| 13:49.23 | paule32 | ah ok |
| 13:49.49 | paule32 | jelly: id ERR user=username password=secret |
| 13:49.50 | paule32 | ? |
| 13:50.02 | jelly | at least that's my two minute reading |
| 13:50.07 | barb_ | can any one tell me why whether I install from verified copies of jessie kde i386, netinstall with kde option, reinstall kde and kde-fill the desktop is trashed. but gnome-full, fluxbox, icewm work fine on my friends hp pavilion slimline? |
| 13:50.19 | jelly | paule32: looks reasonable |
| 13:50.41 | paule32 | jelly: ? look? |
| 13:50.53 | paule32 | ah |
| 13:50.54 | paule32 | look |
| 13:50.58 | paule32 | ok |
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| 13:51.05 | paule32 | i have read lock |
| 13:51.08 | paule32 | :-) |
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| 13:51.30 | jelly | probably better to ask in #squid |
| 13:51.55 | paule32 | thx |
| 13:52.35 | barb_ | can any one tell me why whether I install from verified copies of jessie kde i386, netinstall with kde option, reinstall kde and kde-fill the desktop is trashed. but gnome-full, fluxbox, icewm work fine on my friends hp pavilion slimline? |
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| 13:53.13 | aije | hello everyone, I'd like to create the image of a 'free space' in my external disk, in order to run testdisk/photorec on it. but I dont know how to do it as it is shown as /dev/sdb..I dont want to image the whole disk..is it possible? how can I do it? |
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| 13:54.00 | aije | and I guess creating a partition on it would overwrite, which would be bad for testdisk |
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| 13:55.11 | aije | the current free space may contain former data, hence my intention to search it |
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| 13:58.38 | Agiofws | ok i think i've pointed out my gfx problem: 1) debian 8 does not support my 5700le geforce card only in debian7 2)been using the nouveau driver for my gfx card but its not working well because 2 of my gfx applications are not behaving well makehuman segfaults and bvhacker won't display the bhvfile 3) when i use a vesa driver i have no problem because both programs work but then i have no 3d acceleration can anyone help me with this |
| 13:58.38 | Agiofws | ? thank you |
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| 14:03.07 | Agiofws | nouveau segfaults with make human and does not work well when displaying the screen in bhvhacker BUT both work well with vesa drivers is there a way to install latest nouveau driver somehow in debian 8 ? |
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| 14:04.40 | trewas | geforce 5 series is from 2003, probably nobody cares enough to improve nouveau drivers for it |
| 14:04.56 | SirLagz | good ol' Geforce 5 series |
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| 14:09.33 | cheater | hi |
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| 14:11.08 | cheater | i have created a bootable debian usb stick by cp'ing the hybrid iso onto /dev/sde. I have booted the installer and created another primary partition on that usb stick and installed onto that. If I boot onto another system now and look at the stick, that partition (i labeled it "debianfs") is the bootable one. But if I boot my laptop off that usb stick, i still only get the installer. How do I boot the ... |
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| 14:11.14 | cheater | ... system I have installed? |
| 14:11.25 | SirLagz | cheater: install grub onto the usb stick? |
| 14:11.59 | cheater | the installer had that step. |
| 14:12.10 | cheater | (I performed it) |
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| 14:15.19 | cheater | SirLagz: can i check exactly whether grub is installed on the usb stick? |
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| 14:21.04 | cheater | i did something like this: grub-install --force --no-floppy --boot-directory=/mnt/debianusb/boot /dev/sdd -- does that look like it should work? |
| 14:21.10 | cheater | it threw the following two errors: |
| 14:21.14 | cheater | grub-install: warning: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels. This is not supported yet.. |
| 14:21.17 | cheater | grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. |
| 14:21.41 | cheater | then it said "installation finished. no error reported." |
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| 14:23.24 | cheater | I'm not sure what to make of it |
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| 14:30.30 | cheater | let's see if that worked, brb |
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| 14:33.47 | Psi-Jack | cheapie: Just FYI, cross-posting multiple channels the same thing, is generally pretty frowned upon. |
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| 14:37.30 | abrotman | wonders if Psi-Jack got the right person ? |
| 14:37.43 | Psi-Jack | Err, no, cheater. :) |
| 14:37.50 | Psi-Jack | heh, good catch. |
| 14:38.18 | Psi-Jack | TAB completion failed, because he already rambled himself off. ;heh |
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| 14:45.16 | Agiofws | hey |
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| 14:45.46 | Agiofws | is there a way to get the latest version of nouveau on debian 8 apart from the one proposed from synaptic? |
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| 14:46.44 | jelly | ,v nouveau |
| 14:46.45 | judd | No package named 'nouveau' was found in amd64. |
| 14:46.50 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 14:46.52 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5; squeeze-backports: 1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.0.1-5; jessie: 1:1.0.11-1; sid: 1:1.0.11-1+b1; stretch: 1:1.0.11-1+b1 |
| 14:46.57 | jelly | Agiofws: nope |
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| 14:47.58 | jelly | Agiofws: your card is really old. It's not likely nouveau authors will care much about its peformance. Maybe you can ask in #nouveau about what can be done |
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| 14:48.31 | Agiofws | jelly, its the nouveau driiver thats causing problems using the vesa drivers does not segfault makehuman application |
| 14:49.00 | jelly | of course, but those drivers avoid using the 3d hardware completely |
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| 14:49.42 | Agiofws | do i have any other option apart from noveau and nvidia? |
| 14:50.16 | jelly | you probably don't even have nvidia as an option any more |
| 14:50.24 | Agiofws | and why cant i install the legasy 173xx driver that is for wheezy on jessie somehow convert it ? |
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| 14:50.59 | jelly | short answer: because it doesn't work any more |
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| 14:58.14 | jelly | judd: checkbackport libdrm-nouveau2 |
| 14:58.15 | judd | Backporting package libdrm-nouveau2 in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, archignore. |
| 14:58.32 | jelly | judd: checkbackport libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 14:58.33 | judd | Backporting package libgl1-mesa-dri in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libdrm-dev (>= 2.4.63) [!hurd-any], llvm-3.7-dev (>= 1:3.7~+rc2) [amd64 i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 armhf ppc64el], libclang-3.7-dev (>= 1:3.7~+rc2) [amd64 i386 armhf], libclc-dev (>= 0.2.0+git20150813) [amd64 i386 armhf]. |
| 14:58.39 | jelly | whoops |
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| 15:18.45 | zerodrama | after i installed usrmerge i had to hack the init scripts to mount /usr |
| 15:18.56 | zerodrama | has this been fixed? |
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| 15:19.39 | zerodrama | my /usr cannot be checked at mount time |
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| 15:20.11 | cheater | hi |
| 15:20.18 | asdasdasdassdsad | sup dude |
| 15:20.43 | cheater | after installing grub using the command i mentioned before, when i boot from the usb stick, i only get a black screen. |
| 15:21.03 | asdasdasdassdsad | did you revert yet |
| 15:21.09 | asdasdasdassdsad | shit g2g |
| 15:21.12 | asdasdasdassdsad | bye |
| 15:21.19 | cheater | SirLagz: got any other ideas? |
| 15:21.26 | asdasdasdassdsad | /QUIT #debian |
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| 15:21.59 | Psi-Jack | cheater: Cross posting AGAIN. You should stop that. |
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| 15:30.18 | millican | I've spent the last few months trying to add a printer. Does anyone here have experience with that? Do I have to use CUPS? |
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| 15:30.59 | millican | All of the windows machines in the house set up to the printer without a problem. |
| 15:31.24 | centrx | millican, CUPS is the way to go |
| 15:31.30 | millican | Oh no. |
| 15:31.33 | centrx | millican, Did you find the right printer driver for your printer? |
| 15:32.01 | millican | Yes. |
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| 15:33.14 | millican | I'm having a problem now removing the printer or accessing it at all in cups. Iceweasel says the address isn't understood when I click on the printer in CUPS. Chromium asks what I want to do with an xdg-open file when I click on the printer. |
| 15:34.03 | millican | That's why I was asking if there's an alternative to cups. Cups simply does not work. |
| 15:34.22 | centrx | Yeah that sounds like a problem with your installation of CUPS |
| 15:34.40 | centrx | Usually if your printer doesn't work it just doesn't work and you have to fiddle with it, but the CUPS interface works fine |
| 15:34.52 | millican | I've re-installed cups several times. I've evern re-installed Debian a few times to get the printer to work. |
| 15:35.03 | otyugh | the web interface is not cups |
| 15:35.08 | otyugh | this is another package |
| 15:36.01 | millican | Again, all of the Windows machines were a piece of cake to connect and print. The printer is connected and shared to a machine running Debian. Ironically, this Debian machine can't connect. |
| 15:36.06 | millican | What is the other package/ |
| 15:36.06 | otyugh | millican, are you using sysV or systemd so you check ? |
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| 15:36.28 | otyugh | (for cups being launched) |
| 15:36.28 | millican | I'm pretty sure it's systemd on Debian 8 |
| 15:36.35 | otyugh | yup |
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| 15:37.48 | otyugh | yjiajust checked |
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| 15:38.22 | otyugh | seem I'm wrong, apt cache says cups package posses a web interface. |
| 15:38.47 | otyugh | (maybe it was on arch, then ? No clue) |
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| 15:39.14 | millican | So I'm stuck using flash drives to move files to windows machines just to print? |
| 15:39.18 | mallxs | hi, someone here can help me with a makefile or is there a other channel for that ? |
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| 15:39.30 | otyugh | "systemctl | grep cups" should echo stuffs, and use then "systemctl status <cupsname.service>" to see if they are up |
| 15:40.11 | otyugh | I don't have a debian system under hands to walk you throught without a bit of looking around sry >< |
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| 15:40.35 | millican | I'm just stumped as the web interface creates broken links to administrate the printers. |
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| 15:41.02 | otyugh | millican, maybe it's juste the browser serving weird cached stuff |
| 15:41.33 | otyugh | you have a package "system-config-printer" that is a GUI to cups not relying on web if you want. |
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| 15:42.30 | millican | Clearing the cache didn't work. I'll try that system-config-printer. Thanks. |
| 15:42.36 | otyugh | well |
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| 15:43.13 | otyugh | you should first seek for the cups error status with "systemctl status" if you suspect errors |
| 15:43.44 | otyugh | well, should. Might want to. x) |
| 15:43.59 | millican | I'm checking now. |
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| 15:45.45 | millican | otyugh: ! that worked! |
| 15:46.09 | millican | sudo system-config-printer let me delete the printer added through the cups web interface and add the printer again. It actually printed as well. |
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| 15:47.26 | millican | I think I'll make an alias for that instead of using the cups web interface. |
| 15:48.41 | otyugh | cool, glad to have helped |
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| 15:48.55 | otyugh | even if your issue is still out of space to me x) |
| 15:49.23 | millican | Well, you knew the other method that I couldn't find. |
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| 15:52.31 | otyugh | millican, there has to be some loggs or service problem somewhere. Althought that's me, I'd wish to investigate if I were you : linux allow people to look for problems, understand them, and go throught it. You can't do that on windows, so that's a privilegied part of administarting a GNU/Linux system to me :p |
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| 15:53.14 | jelly | that is wierd, usually http://localhost:631/ works for me than cli or gui tools |
| 15:53.17 | ewew | Sometimes people avoid problems in any cost. |
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| 15:53.22 | millican | The problem with the browser interface to CUPS is that cups isn't logging broken links. The browser creates the error. |
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| 15:53.27 | jelly | better. |
| 15:53.30 | millican | or. shows the error. |
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| 15:54.17 | otyugh | broken links or |
| 15:54.23 | ewew | millican What browsers show error ? |
| 15:54.23 | otyugh | or privilege issue |
| 15:54.50 | otyugh | maybe you are just not part of a good group, and you logged as user |
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| 15:55.18 | millican | So, I go to http://localhost:631/, click on Printers, then the page shows the printers. |
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| 15:55.32 | otyugh | some people get stuck there, it's not obvious they have to add themselve to cups group and reboot, or clear all cache and logg as admin. |
| 15:55.59 | jelly | I just authenticate as root for the web interface when it asks |
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| 15:56.22 | millican | If I click on the printer, the broser shows "The address wasn't understood |
| 15:56.22 | millican | Iceweasel doesn't know how to open this address, because one of the following protocols (dnssd) isn't associated with any program or is not allowed in this context. |
| 15:56.22 | millican | You might need to install other software to open this address." |
| 15:56.22 | millican | CUPS generates the link. |
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| 15:57.17 | otyugh | (cache and cookies, I guess) |
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| 15:57.42 | VSpike | What's the difference between up and post-up in /etc/network/interfaces stanzas? |
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| 15:58.03 | jelly | VSpike: not much, basically just the order |
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| 16:01.25 | jelly | millican: dunno, I click on FS-920 under the "queue name" and just get to http://localhost:631/printers/FS-920 in the browser as expected |
| 16:01.30 | ewew | millican Flod prevention bot taked action. |
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| 16:03.24 | millican | I must have pasted too much. |
| 16:03.24 | VSpike | jelly: Looking at the manual page, I wasn't sure whether it was suggesting that they are aliases, or perhaps that if the command called by post-up fails then the ifup will be aborted but not with plain "up" |
| 16:04.09 | ewew | millican you can use paste.debian.net. This is written in topic also. |
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| 16:04.39 | VSpike | Perhaps it's also suggesting that down and pre-down are the same |
| 16:04.44 | jelly | VSpike: IME both up and post-up failures are fatal and I've had to append " || true " but perhaps your reading is right |
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| 16:07.01 | VSpike | Yeah, I think it's saying they are the same |
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| 16:07.12 | cheapie | Psi-Jack: I see you had the wrong person earlier... I have cross-posted before, so you're not /that/ wrong... :P |
| 16:07.18 | cheapie | disappears again |
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| 16:12.51 | millican | What is the group for printing? I can print only a test page and only if I open system-config-printer as root. I checked /etc/group but found neither "cups" nor "print". |
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| 16:13.22 | millican | Or, where is the login option on teh cups web interface? |
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| 16:13.52 | cheapie | The group *might* be "lp". |
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| 16:14.59 | cheapie | As far as the web interface, it should prompt you to log in when you attempt something that requires it. |
| 16:15.02 | jelly | millican: you only need to login to modify or delete stuff |
| 16:15.08 | millican | there is lp. |
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| 16:16.17 | millican | I'm in the lpadmin group already. |
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| 16:17.02 | bytemonkey | having trouble resolving a GPG error. |
| 16:17.12 | cheapie | Remember, changes to your groups generally need a logout/login to take effect. |
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| 16:17.20 | cheapie | bytemonkey: And the error is...? |
| 16:17.31 | bytemonkey | The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 977C43A8BA684223 |
| 16:17.33 | jelly | dpkg, tell bytemonkey about ask |
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| 16:17.40 | millican | I haven't made any changes to groups yet. |
| 16:17.46 | bytemonkey | thanks jelly. |
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| 16:18.11 | jelly | (1) isv:ownCloud OBS Project <isv:ownCloud@build.opensuse.org> |
| 16:18.29 | jelly | bytemonkey: that key on the public pgp keyservers ^^ |
| 16:18.47 | cheapie | Gah, my connection's being unreliable again... |
| 16:18.48 | millican | But thanks. That's good to remember. |
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| 16:19.06 | bytemonkey | right, I want to remove the server from my computer all together |
| 16:19.14 | jelly | bytemonkey: so, I'd guess you added some owncloud repo but still have to follow their procedure to add their repo signature key |
| 16:19.48 | bytemonkey | right, but I don't want it anymore. |
| 16:19.52 | jelly | bytemonkey: oh, then find it in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and comment out or delete the deb and deb-src lines |
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| 16:20.03 | bytemonkey | apt says it removed but still getting error on apt-get update |
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| 16:20.17 | jelly | apt says? |
| 16:20.18 | bytemonkey | oh ok...forgot about the source. |
| 16:20.20 | bytemonkey | thanks. |
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| 16:21.02 | bytemonkey | was that wrong? I used apt-get update...and get the error mentioned. |
| 16:21.12 | bytemonkey | at the end of course. |
| 16:21.34 | jelly | if you removed all the repos, apt-get update is the right thing to do |
| 16:22.45 | bytemonkey | i think it's 2 repos still around and won't go away. |
| 16:23.08 | jelly | bytemonkey: pastebin the output of, dunno, grep -i ownrepo /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} |
| 16:23.22 | jelly | um |
| 16:23.25 | jelly | owncloud |
| 16:23.29 | bytemonkey | right |
| 16:23.34 | bytemonkey | one sec |
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| 16:24.22 | jelly | stuff under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ can go unnoticed |
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| 16:25.33 | bytemonkey | http://pastebin.com/qZ5g66kW |
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| 16:25.55 | bytemonkey | http://pastebin.com/qZ5g66kW |
| 16:26.04 | bytemonkey | not sure if the first went threw |
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| 16:26.35 | jelly | bytemonkey: so there's /etc/apt/sources.list.d/owncloud.list |
| 16:26.43 | jelly | bytemonkey: is it part of a package? dpkg -S /etc/apt/sources.list.d/owncloud.list |
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| 16:28.39 | jelly | bytemonkey: if it is, purge that package (aptitude purge ...) and that ought to remove the .list file as well |
| 16:29.03 | bytemonkey | http://pastebin.com/HRfyjqrX |
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| 16:31.30 | Agiofws | can i downgrade Xorg to 1.14.x version of Xorg in jessie ? |
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| 16:43.01 | Nickalke | How can I burn file to cd in linux? it is barebone minimal install. apt-get install not option as it not connected to network |
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| 16:45.57 | p8m | Nickalke: If you can format the cd somewhere with udftools you could mount the cd as a regular filesystem and packet write to it |
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| 17:11.51 | jelly | bytemonkey: so... remove that file, or, at the risk of repeating myself, comment out the deb and deb-src lines that are owncloud related |
| 17:13.29 | bytemonkey | jelly: thank you, I rm'd the owncloud.list and the error is gone. |
| 17:13.51 | bytemonkey | did it from the /etc/apt/sources.list.d dir |
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| 17:15.10 | jelly | bytemonkey: "when I said [...] find it in [...] /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and comment out or delete the deb and deb-src lines", above, that * meant "any file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory" |
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| 17:16.07 | jelly | bytemonkey: you did not have to wait for me to come back ;-) |
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| 17:16.36 | bytemonkey | yeah I know lol, I actually stepped out for a bit. |
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| 17:17.37 | bytemonkey | and some of the files in that path I still need. |
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| 17:19.44 | boodoo | Unable to update a Jessie install with this error message :: E: http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports/iceweasel-release iceweasel amd64 41.0.2-1~bpo80+1 is not (yet) available (404 Not Found [IP: 5.153.231.4 80]) |
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| 17:23.32 | boodoo | disabling iceweasle in the update list doesn't sort out updating jessie. where to look for solutions? |
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| 17:27.23 | blind | boodoo: when's the last time you did an apt-get update? |
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| 17:28.51 | boodoo | @blind: two months or just under |
| 17:28.59 | paxcoder | Hi. I have this never-really-hidden slide-in notification bar in the lower-left part of the screen. I've had it for a long time now, but it's just so much worse than the bottom bar. Any way I could get the other one back? You know the one where you drag your mouse down for a bit before it pops up (and moves the screen a bit)? |
| 17:29.42 | blind | boodoo: ideally i think you should be doing that before most software installations, definitely before extensive tasks. run an update and try your command again. |
| 17:29.51 | mtn | paxcoder, using gnome? |
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| 17:31.03 | paxcoder | mtn: yes |
| 17:31.40 | mtn | paxcoder, that is the way the newer version of gnome works now. there is no going back :) |
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| 17:31.53 | paxcoder | this is so much worse |
| 17:32.00 | paxcoder | so much |
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| 17:32.22 | mtn | paxcoder, you could wander around the extenions site and see what they have. and I don't agree with you at all. neither do the gnome devs ;) |
| 17:32.41 | paxcoder | mtn: would you happen to know what the particular implementations are called... yeah that's what i was hoping for |
| 17:32.55 | paxcoder | mtn: wait, you think this always-visible stripe is better? why? |
| 17:33.10 | paxcoder | btw i love when it spazzes out on mouse over |
| 17:33.13 | mtn | paxcoder, no idea. never looked as I like the new may much better. |
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| 17:33.27 | paxcoder | are you the dev of the new one? :P |
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| 17:34.41 | paxcoder | mtn? |
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| 17:38.53 | paxcoder | wonders if noone else realized what just happened |
| 17:39.12 | boodoo | @blind: running an update before the Package Updater seems to work past the |
| 17:39.21 | milwaukee | o7 all, I'm trying to point the Debian testing installer to a preseed file on a second hard drive on the machine I'm installing it to. |
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| 17:39.44 | milwaukee | 'file:///partition-name/path-on-partition' didn't work, how could I find the appropriate path? |
| 17:40.02 | jubo2 | Hiya |
| 17:40.10 | jubo2 | and thanks for the awesomest server OS |
| 17:40.17 | boodoo | ...@blind: ... seems to work past the hurdle I reported. thanks |
| 17:40.23 | jubo2 | I'm looking to purchase a tiny mixer |
| 17:40.30 | jubo2 | mostly to blast commiemist tunes on Mayday |
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| 17:42.56 | boodoo | is there a nice and easy way to install Audio Video Studio of packages on Jessie? |
| 17:43.16 | fooPi | Hi, newbie question: I have a dual-gpu system, if I switch from gnome to kde(e.g) will bumblebee still be usable? |
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| 17:43.54 | fooPi | (i've alredy installed & configurated it) |
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| 17:44.22 | jelly | fooPi: it should be |
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| 17:44.37 | fooPi | ok ty gonna give it a try :) |
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| 17:47.01 | chele | If I got a hdd which could not be manipulated, e.g. gives I/O error on every action with gnome-disk-utility, is it totally dead or I can repair it? I tried using bad-blocks and then fsck but I cannot get rid of the errors. I tried to open gparted but is not possible. |
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| 17:47.42 | wallbroken | which is the command to add a repository? |
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| 17:48.06 | wallbroken | add-apt-repository does not exist |
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| 17:48.39 | cra1g321 | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 17:54.30 | wallbroken | cra1g321 |
| 17:54.31 | wallbroken | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/docky |
| 17:54.35 | wallbroken | this is what i should add |
| 17:54.42 | wallbroken | what i need to add to sources.list ? |
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| 17:55.08 | towo` | wallbroken, you don't want ubuntu-ppa's in debian |
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| 17:55.13 | paxcoder | wallbroken: you might want to change your password, Craig |
| 17:55.33 | wallbroken | i need to install docky 3.0 |
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| 17:55.46 | cra1g321 | why paxcoder ? |
| 17:55.52 | paxcoder | oh |
| 17:55.54 | towo` | wallbroken, you will break your debian with ubuntu packages |
| 17:56.06 | paxcoder | cra1g321: i thought you were a password |
| 17:56.15 | cra1g321 | lol |
| 17:56.25 | wallbroken | is there some other way? |
| 17:56.37 | paxcoder | this tray area is hideous |
| 17:56.59 | towo` | wallbroken, build it yourself |
| 17:57.00 | lynxer10 | lol |
| 17:57.18 | paxcoder | mtn: i was talking about the tray icon area, not the notifications just to be clear |
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| 17:57.52 | wallbroken | towo`, i'm not expert |
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| 18:00.05 | towo` | wallbroken, if you wouldn't use stable, you could use plank instead of docky |
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| 18:00.22 | wallbroken | what is plank? |
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| 18:01.47 | milwaukee | when specifying the http path for a preseed file, how can I specify an http port? 'http://domain:8000/preseed.cfg' didn't work for me |
| 18:01.48 | rohieb | hmm, I was fine so far with Lunchpad PPAs in my Debian. But then, I'm using sid. |
| 18:02.02 | rohieb | *Launchpad, ofc⦠|
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| 18:06.29 | pk64 | Is it at all possible (since SteamOS is built from Debian 8 Jessie), to copy the /usr/share/debootstrap/brewmaster script from my install to a Debian Jessie machine and create a chroot for SteamOS there? |
| 18:06.42 | towo` | rohieb, it doesn't matter, if sid, testing or stable |
| 18:07.00 | towo` | and what you is doing with your system is on your own |
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| 18:07.17 | towo` | but do not suggest using ubuntu-ppa's in debian |
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| 18:09.14 | bytemonkey | no way...that would break it. |
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| 18:11.28 | german_ | Hi |
| 18:11.30 | german_ | I have installed nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver also I have 3D acceleration and 32-bit libraries, but not at me steam |
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| 18:15.20 | julius_ | hi |
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| 18:16.52 | julius_ | what kind of backup solution do you recommend for backing up /etc - only incremental and without root access to the remote server |
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| 18:21.06 | flip214 | julius_: fsvs is keeping owner/group/mode and does versioning |
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| 18:21.40 | flip214 | and can even do some sed/awk like transformations along the way, like stripping out the password hashes from /etc/shadow |
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| 18:23.15 | flip214 | is the author, so take that advice with lots of salt |
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| 18:24.04 | julius_ | ah :) |
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| 18:24.17 | MeanEYE | half wasted tech support is here. |
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| 18:24.28 | MeanEYE | Fire away your questions fellow users. |
| 18:25.04 | boicutt | i am sorry for the interrupt .. im kinda new here |
| 18:25.11 | boicutt | still looking my way around |
| 18:25.12 | julius_ | flip214, and it will backup my local /etc without needing root access to the remote server? |
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| 18:25.18 | boicutt | anyone can help ! |
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| 18:25.54 | julius_ | boicutt, what was your question? |
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| 18:26.47 | boicutt | what should be done before joing any channel on this hexchat thing .. |
| 18:27.06 | julius_ | get a drink maybe |
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| 18:27.08 | boicutt | i am reading and reading but nth has got me into the spot |
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| 18:42.47 | julius_ | what backup solution with these features would you recommend? requirements: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=125768 |
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| 19:20.13 | dandkburt1 | is there a command that I can check to see if there is a broken application on debian |
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| 19:20.58 | abrotman | broken how? |
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| 19:21.15 | dandkburt1 | missing components |
| 19:21.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dandkburt1 about debsums |
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| 19:21.48 | dandkburt1 | I am trying to get my squirrelmail up and it tells me that lib is broken |
| 19:21.49 | markybob | dandkburt1, this helps https://release.debian.org/transitions/ |
| 19:22.02 | markybob | dandkburt1, are you using testing? |
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| 19:22.36 | dandkburt1 | not sure |
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| 19:22.40 | markybob | dandkburt1, btw, you know squirrelmail hasn't been active since 2013 and doesn't support php 5.4 or later? |
| 19:22.43 | dandkburt1 | don't think so |
| 19:22.50 | dandkburt1 | really |
| 19:22.53 | markybob | yes |
| 19:22.59 | dandkburt1 | maby thats why its failed |
| 19:23.13 | dandkburt1 | what can I use that is webbased mail system now |
| 19:23.28 | markybob | dandkburt1, i like https://roundcube.net/ |
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| 19:24.05 | dandkburt1 | can you help me set it up |
| 19:24.37 | markybob | dandkburt1, it's offtopic here. join #roundcube |
| 19:25.20 | netsrot | Hi, is there any official guide on how to disable recommended and suggested packages from being auto installed? |
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| 19:25.58 | jordanm | !tell netsrot about recommends |
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| 19:26.45 | netsrot | jordanm: that wasn't helpfull. |
| 19:26.58 | jordanm | netsrot: yeah, it wasn't the factoid I was looking for |
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| 19:28.58 | jordanm | netsrot: --no-install-recommends for a single package. it's highly discouraged to do so for all packages, but it's "APT::Get::Install-Recommends "false";", if you want to do so |
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| 19:31.25 | netsrot | that's what I found in unofficial guides but they say I should put it different config files. is /etc/apt/apt.conf the right file? |
| 19:32.33 | netsrot | I'm wanting it for all packages ofc. |
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| 19:33.01 | ghormoon | hi, I've been debootstrapping a system and now I can't umount sys, even fuser and lsof don't show anything blocking it, what am I missing? |
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| 19:33.29 | ghormoon | (sys of the debootstrapped system I've been chrooting to, not sys of the host) |
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| 19:34.47 | jordanm | !tell netsrot about why recommends |
| 19:34.53 | jordanm | netsrot: yes, apt.conf |
| 19:35.14 | jordanm | netsrot: or apt.conf.d/* |
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| 19:35.52 | ghormoon | ha, it mounted sys/fs/fuse/connections, dunno why |
| 19:36.32 | ewew | ghormoon I do it from outside of chroot. |
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| 19:37.13 | dandkburt1 | it says that roundcube is already installed |
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| 19:44.41 | nath | morning all, I want to install a debian from SD Card (4GB), I thought that would be very easy using dd in the same way as for setting up Raspdian on a raspberrypi, for some reason it does not quite work, and all HOW-Toos I find are far to complicated for my noobish LINUX behaviour :-) |
| 19:44.50 | nath | ...anyone got some kinda easy hints? |
| 19:45.30 | ewew | nath https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ hope it helps. |
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| 19:47.05 | nath | ewew: thanks, so it has to be that complicated ;-))) |
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| 19:55.26 | nath | so "dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdX of=~debian-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso" would generally not work in this case? |
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| 19:55.28 | deepy | Is there any way I can make a directory in which all files placed disappear immediately? |
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| 19:58.22 | jordanm | deepy: you can just inotify to watch the directory and rm |
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| 19:59.41 | netsrot | jordanm: does it matter if it's "0" or "false" when disabling recommends? |
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| 20:00.59 | netsrot | most guides write 0 where you wrote false. |
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| 20:01.28 | somiaj | netsrot: note it is suggested you don't do that. Though I agree sometimes recomends are suggested and sometimes they are actually recommended. I think bugs should be filed against packages that recommend packages that should only be suggested. |
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| 20:20.21 | paule32 | hello |
| 20:20.41 | mbarrin | Does anyone know of an up to date guide for installing debian on a Macbook Pro? The wiki hasn't been updated in a while, no idea what might have changed |
| 20:20.59 | paule32 | programmer + admin there? have problems with squid and a php script |
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| 20:26.24 | p8m | mbarrin: Maybe it hasn't been updated because Debian "just works" now. Have you tried installing? |
| 20:26.46 | mbarrin | not yet, decided to do some reading before I went all in |
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| 20:27.22 | mbarrin | This is a work machine, work won't mind me having linux, they might be annoyed if I don't have a machine because I made a mistake while installed |
| 20:27.44 | p8m | You can install to a usb drive first to see what works |
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| 20:29.12 | paule32 | http://pastebin.com/LpXEFncg this is config |
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| 20:29.26 | paule32 | http://pastebin.com/hSw7N9BZ this is script |
| 20:29.56 | p8m | mbarrin: have you seen this? It talks about jessie: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/11-1 |
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| 20:30.30 | Wamphyri | hmm, on my remote server i just finished running apt-get upgrade which induced a kernel upgrade, which forced everything ro, any idea's why 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6 would take a hissy fit? |
| 20:31.05 | mbarrin | p8m: I had not. Thanks! |
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| 20:39.12 | Wamphyri | how do you remount / from ro to rw? |
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| 20:39.38 | greycat | mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 20:40.05 | Wamphyri | thought so |
| 20:40.07 | Wamphyri | mount: / not mounted or bad option |
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| 20:50.12 | Wamphyri | when i run mount -o remount,rw / it tells me mount: / not mounted or bad option, this is after upgrading the debian default kernel today |
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| 20:50.52 | greycat | In what context? Why are you trying to do this? |
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| 20:53.12 | Wamphyri | file system is corrently locked as ro |
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| 20:54.25 | rapha | Hi! |
| 20:54.27 | Wamphyri | so i'm running the command mount -o remount,rw / as root and its spitting out that error |
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| 20:55.02 | rapha | I'm trying to follow http://foojitsu.com/blog/2014/12/installing-python-3-4-and-ipython-on-debian-wheezy/, but the Pinning Priorities don't change by creating an "/etc/apt/preferences.d/priorities" file ... what am I doing wrong? |
| 20:55.47 | ewew | abrotman your mean. |
| 20:55.57 | ewew | oops wrong channel. |
| 20:57.05 | greycat | Wamphyri: *why* is your root file system readonly? Was there a disk error? Massive corruption? Are you even booting from the main disk at all, or are you booting from rescue media? If you booted from the main disk, are you in a real shell, or a busybox shell, or what? What is going on? |
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| 21:01.28 | Wamphyri | any suggestion greycat? |
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| 21:03.10 | greycat | Did I miss an answer? |
| 21:03.17 | greycat | squints at the screen |
| 21:03.38 | Wamphyri | oh hell i missed it lol |
| 21:03.52 | Wamphyri | light green on white.. |
| 21:03.58 | Wamphyri | pulls his bifocals out |
| 21:04.15 | p8m | rapha: sid is constantly changing. Those instructions may no longer work. Why not install jessie? it has python 3.4 |
| 21:04.55 | bgg | Hi ! So after upgrading to Jessie, boot hangs. Afer a few searching it seems that it can be systemd. A maybe long and maybe fun time is starting, for I understand and solve it. Mybe you can make me go a bit quicker ? :) |
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| 21:05.23 | rapha | p8m: I know, but it would be extremely time-consuming to install Jessie on that machine, so I'd like to try and make it work. But you're right, for the current sid's python3.4, the current wheezy's libc is too old. Is there any other way? |
| 21:05.48 | rapha | p8m: (note that I need to keep my python2 and python3.2 installations; I only want 3.4 as a third variant) |
| 21:05.48 | Wamphyri | greycat, well i hate making assumptions but does busybox has ssh capabilitys? i ran upgrade earlier on the system which did a kernel upgrade ending result is this fstab has it as rw but no matter what i do system stays ro |
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| 21:08.00 | p8m | rapha: Install python 3.4 from source? You could build a deb package by using the deb source for python 3.4 |
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| 21:08.54 | greycat | Wamphyri: what ERROR do you get that in your opinion is the most likely cause for the file system not being checked and remounted normally? |
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| 21:09.08 | greycat | Did you try fsck'ing it? |
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| 21:10.14 | Wamphyri | not yet |
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| 21:12.50 | rapha | p8m: was afraid you might say that ... thanks though! :} |
| 21:13.12 | Wamphyri | greycat, not sure what you mean? |
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| 21:14.19 | greycat | What error are you seeing? |
| 21:14.23 | greycat | BEFORE you type anything. |
| 21:14.39 | Wamphyri | i can only ssh into this machine |
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| 21:16.23 | greycat | So it's a remote machine to which you do not have console access, and somehow you ARE ABLE to ssh in (!!!!!) meaning the sshd service was started, meaning the thing booted far enough to do that, yet you believe that the root file system is read-only, which NORMALLY would halt the boot process before running any network service daemons. |
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| 21:16.43 | greycat | I think my advice at this point is "lolwut". |
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| 21:18.45 | p8m | rapha: building a package is easy, just a few apt-get cmds and dpkg-buildpakage. Of course easiest of all is upgrading to jessie |
| 21:20.19 | p8m | rapha: Or you could try installing jessie's python3.4 instead of sid's. |
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| 21:20.41 | Wamphyri | greycat, |
| 21:20.43 | Wamphyri | root@ns1:~# touch helpme |
| 21:20.43 | Wamphyri | touch: cannot touch ââ¬Ëhelpmeââ¬â¢: Read-only file system |
| 21:20.43 | Wamphyri | root@ns1:~# |
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| 21:21.00 | Wamphyri | crap |
| 21:21.01 | Wamphyri | lol |
| 21:21.04 | rapha | p8m: i'd love to go Jessie, but it's just not feasible atm. I'll try the other two things you said, in reverse order. |
| 21:21.18 | greycat | Wamphyri: pastebin the output of some useful things, like "uptime" "df" "mount" "dmesg | tail" |
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| 21:23.22 | Wamphyri | greycat, http://pastebin.com/giw2m6iv |
| 21:25.41 | greycat | Well, I don't understand that at all. So jessie can boot into multi-user mode even if the root file system is corrupt?? |
| 21:25.47 | rapha | p8m: okay, the python34-from-jessie repos idea seems to work just fine. But how do I lower that repo's priority now? Because if I understand correctly, both wheezy and jessie are "stable" as far as Apt sees it, right? |
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| 21:26.32 | Wamphyri | greycat, not a clue; but i can't even fsck the filesystem or shutdown -rF now |
| 21:26.47 | greycat | Why can't you fsck it? What happens? |
| 21:27.31 | Wamphyri | tells me its mounted |
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| 21:29.52 | Wamphyri | http://pastebin.com/xkWCJixR |
| 21:30.41 | greycat | "tells me its mounted" is VERY VERY DIFFERENT from "fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda2" |
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| 21:31.17 | greycat | or wait, why did you try sda2... that's not one of your file systems |
| 21:31.45 | Wamphyri | just for the hell of it lol |
| 21:31.56 | greycat | sda1 is /boot which is "mounted" yes, but that is not a problem. |
| 21:32.08 | greycat | fsck /dev/sda6 (your root file system) worked. |
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| 21:32.25 | greycat | Normally you would remount rw after the successful fsck. |
| 21:32.34 | Wamphyri | ok lemmi try |
| 21:32.39 | greycat | Of course normally you would not be able to ssh in. |
| 21:33.21 | p8m | rapha: man apt_preferences . Create an entry for jessie with a lower number than wheezy |
| 21:33.38 | Wamphyri | greycat, welp |
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| 21:33.44 | Wamphyri | figured out why it didn't like me |
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| 21:34.19 | Wamphyri | didn't like mount -o remount,rw / but it like the whole mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda6 / |
| 21:34.53 | greycat | That sounds super weird. Like your /etc/fstab is corrupt. |
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| 21:35.19 | Wamphyri | could the kernel upgrade it took earlier crapped out? |
| 21:35.41 | greycat | See if your fstab look sane. |
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| 21:39.31 | Wamphyri | http://pastebin.com/n5vtK4xp |
| 21:39.37 | Wamphyri | looks ok to me |
| 21:39.42 | Wamphyri | which doesn't say much lol |
| 21:40.18 | greycat | I don't know anything about that quota gibberish. |
| 21:40.35 | greycat | Mine looks like UUID=1a20ffb7-897c-4373-84c1-14089a6deab8 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 21:41.09 | greycat | You might verify whether the UUID is correct. |
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| 21:44.33 | bpr_admin | I'm getting this error on boot after removing udhcpc and installing dhcpcd5: |
| 21:44.38 | bpr_admin | a start job is running for lsb raise network interfaces |
| 21:45.04 | bpr_admin | how do I get around the machine hanging, once it's hung I can't get around it |
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| 21:48.16 | bpr_admin | ... there's 1,600+ users in this channel, and no one has insight to this issue? |
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| 21:49.29 | Wamphyri | greycat, for webhosting thats all |
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| 21:51.15 | Wamphyri | greycat, uuid matches on reboot filesystem returns to ro |
| 21:51.28 | greycat | Wamphyri: does the UUID in fstab match the UUID in the actual file system? |
| 21:51.49 | Wamphyri | i used blkid /dev/sda6 and matched the uuid to fstab |
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| 21:52.49 | Duerstl | blkid -o list |
| 21:53.01 | Duerstl | as root |
| 21:53.25 | Duerstl | and u can put the uuid then in the fstab as device |
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| 21:54.14 | Wamphyri | its the same uuid Duerstl |
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| 21:54.27 | SuperNull | does debian support hot memory add in vmware esxi ? |
| 21:54.38 | greycat | Also review the output of journalctl and try to find out what the original error is. |
| 21:54.39 | SuperNull | Cpu hotplug/memory hot plug |
| 21:55.21 | Duerstl | yes it must be the same |
| 21:56.03 | nebg | do i need some package in order to get hdmi monitor working ? |
| 21:56.24 | nebg | i have debian 8 |
| 21:56.39 | nebg | but when i attach an hdmi monitor it doesn't work |
| 21:57.01 | SuperNull | get better video dirvers nebg |
| 21:57.04 | SuperNull | drivers* |
| 21:57.18 | nebg | SuperNull, better ? i have nouveau |
| 21:57.23 | netsca | nebg have you tried using arandr? |
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| 21:57.59 | boycottg00gle | after update to debian jessie - systemd thinks my degraded drbd isn't fine and doesn't mount the fs on it / how do i convince systemd to continue even if the drbd is degraded? |
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| 21:58.55 | Wamphyri | greycat, apperently it doesn't like ordered-data or something |
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| 21:59.06 | Wamphyri | its also looking for a hybernation file and erroring out with -22 |
| 22:00.17 | boycottg00gle | hmm maybe just remove that wait-for-connect line in the service file |
| 22:01.05 | SuperNull | boycottg00gle: why are we boycotting google / |
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| 22:02.37 | boycottg00gle | SuperNull: prism ... |
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| 22:03.39 | SuperNull | eh, you think they really have a choice tho ? |
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| 22:04.04 | jil | hello |
| 22:04.04 | SuperNull | i mean i guess you could say google could force all employment out of the US and all datacenter stuff outside the US but.. that would ruin their products |
| 22:04.55 | Wamphyri | greycat, found the error's http://pastebin.com/n42Ebfqa |
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| 22:05.40 | boycottg00gle | SuperNull: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/images/prism-slide-5.jpg |
| 22:05.41 | german_ | Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas: |
| 22:05.41 | german_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:07.19 | german_ | Help, please |
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| 22:11.22 | Duerstl | u have always a choice in your life |
| 22:11.30 | Duerstl | other is excuse |
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| 22:12.04 | boycottg00gle | !ask |
| 22:12.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 22:25.10 | Agiofws | does anyone in here have a 5700LE nvidia gfx card? |
| 22:25.19 | jelly | except Agiofws? |
| 22:25.35 | Agiofws | lol |
| 22:25.38 | Agiofws | :) |
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| 22:25.54 | Agiofws | is on a vesa driver gtb |
| 22:25.58 | Agiofws | ftb* |
| 22:26.03 | german_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.07 | german_ | Help, please |
| 22:26.19 | jelly | !localized errors |
| 22:26.19 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 22:26.26 | Agiofws | nope i need an older driver than that one |
| 22:26.26 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 22:26.26 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 22:26.43 | jelly | german_: ^^ follow the instructions above. |
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| 22:27.12 | jelly | wonders why a german_ uses spanish locale |
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| 22:28.50 | german_ | ok |
| 22:29.23 | german_ | http://paste.debian.net/333180/ |
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| 22:30.25 | jelly | german_: add 2. "LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver:i386 xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-304xx:i386" and 3. "LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy" to the same pastebin |
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| 22:31.50 | Agiofws | hmm now i can't get into settings in xfce4 due to vesa driver. the windows settings and windows tweaks will not respond i wonder if this is a vesa driver issue :P |
| 22:32.22 | german_ | http://paste.debian.net/333181/ |
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| 22:33.01 | Agiofws | is it possible to get this in debian 8? https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms ? |
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| 22:33.26 | jelly | Agiofws: didn't we go over this, a couple hours ago? |
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| 22:34.38 | jelly | Agiofws: the answer was "no, legacy 173xx driver does not exist in jessie, because it does not work with components from jessie". |
| 22:34.44 | german_ | jelly what do I do? |
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| 22:35.03 | jelly | german_: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
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| 22:35.56 | german_ | amd64 |
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| 22:36.17 | jelly | german_: okay. why do you want 32bit driver installed? |
| 22:36.22 | german_ | I need 32-bit libraries |
| 22:36.35 | jelly | to do what? |
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| 22:36.58 | german_ | jelly, running steam |
| 22:37.17 | jelly | german_: then go and install just the libraries, not the whole driver. |
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| 22:38.35 | german_ | and what should I do? |
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| 22:38.46 | german_ | uninstall the driver? |
| 22:38.58 | Agiofws | jelly, can i upgrade to debian 9 ? |
| 22:39.07 | Agiofws | will it have the latest mesa? |
| 22:40.22 | jelly | german_: I suspect you want to install libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx-i386 |
| 22:40.40 | Agiofws | how do i upgrade to sid ? |
| 22:40.42 | jelly | ,v libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 22:40.44 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 -- squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-backports: 7.10.3-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; stretch: 10.6.8-1; sid: 11.0.5-1 |
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| 22:41.35 | jelly | Agiofws: stretch is current testing (what will eventually become debian 9), it does not have mesa 11 #nouveau people told you to get. sid does. |
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| 22:42.24 | german_ | jelly, thanks |
| 22:42.34 | jelly | Agiofws: I don't believe your know-how is good enough to deal with sid. For you, I'd suggest installing debian 7 |
| 22:43.09 | jelly | Agiofws: and using legacy 173xx there |
| 22:44.02 | jelly | Agiofws: alternatively, I'd suggest trying to backport libdrm2 and mesa, because that is short-term easier than dealing with sid long-term. |
| 22:45.16 | jelly | Agiofws: but you seem to have abandoned that option, which was suggested a couple hours ago as well. So now I'm not sure what else to tell you except... go back to wheezy (debian 7) |
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| 22:45.26 | jelly | ha |
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| 22:48.55 | Agiofws | how can i upgrade jessie to stretch? |
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| 22:50.38 | Agiofws | how do i upgrade to sid? |
| 22:50.40 | Agiofws | it is like that: current debian 10.3.2, next debian: 10.6.8, sid: 11.0.5 |
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| 22:51.15 | derstrom | Agiofws: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting explains here how to upgrade from Stable to Testing. |
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| 22:51.47 | derstrom | Do read the section titled "Considerations"; it is Testing after all. |
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| 22:52.30 | derstrom | You should be aware that you cannot really downgrade from Testing to Stable; so you should be absolutely sure before you proceed. |
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| 22:54.12 | jelly | Agiofws: I don't believe your know-how is good enough to deal with sid. For you, I'd suggest installing debian 7. alternatively, I'd suggest trying to backport libdrm2 and mesa, because that is short-term easier than dealing with sid long-term, BUT you seem to have abandoned that option. Why? |
| 22:54.12 | Agiofws | whats sid, testing stretch stable unstable i'mconfused |
| 22:54.40 | derstrom | jelly: Why are you recommending Debian 7? |
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| 22:55.19 | derstrom | Agiofws: sid is Debian Unstable; stretch is Debian Testing. When Debian 9 comes out, it'll be called "Debian 9 Stretch". The Unstable branch is always called sid. |
| 22:55.21 | jelly | derstrom: because it's the least complex option to make Agiofws' old hardware work |
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| 22:55.43 | derstrom | jelly: I see. Didn't see s/he mentioned old hardware. |
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| 22:56.05 | Agiofws | jelly, because i tried to and it started compiling the SAME mesa version that was installed on my system thats why i abandoned that option |
| 22:56.08 | jelly | derstrom: then you're missing important context |
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| 22:56.41 | jelly | Agiofws: that means you made an error and did not add deb-src line for sid. |
| 22:56.42 | Agiofws | using backports |
| 22:56.49 | Agiofws | i did |
| 22:56.54 | Agiofws | let me check |
| 22:57.07 | jelly | there are no backports for these two components. You need to make them yourself. |
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| 22:57.27 | Agiofws | cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit |
| 22:57.27 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/333184/ |
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| 22:57.39 | Agiofws | well thats what dpkg told me to do |
| 22:57.56 | Agiofws | so i need to compile them my self? |
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| 22:58.15 | Jaga-Jaga | how much spaace debian could take up? |
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| 22:58.52 | jelly | Agiofws: dpkg told you to _check_ jessie-backports for existence of desired version. If those did not exist (were "unavailable") you'd have to build them on your own |
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| 23:00.10 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: it depends. A base system might take 500MB or so. A headless server installation might take as little as 2GB and still do useful services. A desktop or laptop might be 5-20 GB. |
| 23:00.24 | crdil | isnt nginx naxsi available for jessie? |
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| 23:01.40 | jelly | Agiofws: but if you get confused with stretch, testing and unstable, I'm not sure how much time it will take for you to build libdrm2, install all the new versions of those .deb you just built, then try building mesa. |
| 23:02.50 | Agiofws | jelly, maybe upgrading to sid would install mesa 11.0 and then test if its s/w to blame or not |
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| 23:03.07 | jelly | Agiofws: yes, but sid has lots of other problems. |
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| 23:03.14 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.22 | Agiofws | jelly, for example? |
| 23:03.47 | jelly | Agiofws: any single component may be uninstallable or broken at any time. |
| 23:03.50 | jelly | !sid faq |
| 23:03.51 | dpkg | http://deb.li/sidfaq ; it doesn't hurt to read the FAQ, even if you are using <testing>. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/08/msg00041.html and <sid upgrade test>. |
| 23:03.53 | Agiofws | what kind of problems may occur? |
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| 23:04.16 | jelly | Agiofws: for example: dpkg does not work. Can you fix that? |
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| 23:04.28 | Agiofws | i can use apt-get? |
| 23:04.30 | Agiofws | instead? |
| 23:04.41 | Agiofws | or aptitude or synaptic? |
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| 23:05.07 | jelly | all those use dpkg as low-level tool |
| 23:05.17 | Agiofws | :) |
| 23:05.20 | Agiofws | ok, well however you achieve it, you're unlikely to get a ton of help on any mesa issues until you install try it with mesa 11.0.x |
| 23:05.34 | Agiofws | stuck in a corner |
| 23:06.17 | Agiofws | maybe i'll try to compile nouveau from scratch.... will i have to recompile a vanilla kernel aswell? |
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| 23:06.48 | jelly | Agiofws: your goal is making 3D (opengl) work on your Geforce FX 5700LE. Options are: 1) use sid 2) backport libdri then mesa 3) go back to wheezy and 173xx legacy driver |
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| 23:06.58 | Agiofws | jeez |
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| 23:07.06 | jelly | Agiofws: your goal is making 3D (opengl) work on your Geforce FX 5700LE. Options are: 1) use sid 2) backport libdri then mesa 3) go back to wheezy and 173xx legacy driver |
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| 23:07.41 | Agiofws | jelly, when you say backport what exactly do you mean? |
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| 23:07.55 | jelly | Agiofws: honestly I think the only option you're going to make in a reasonable time frame is install debian 7 and use that. |
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| 23:08.54 | Agiofws | 4th option is to compile nouveau from source? |
| 23:09.03 | Agiofws | jelly, when you say backport what exactly do you mean? |
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| 23:09.39 | Agiofws | 5th option get a newer OLD card :) |
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| 23:10.04 | Agiofws | ? |
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| 23:10.35 | jelly | Agiofws: I mean do the "simple sid backport" procedure on libdrm2, then mesa |
| 23:11.26 | Agiofws | what does the simple procedure do exactly? |
| 23:11.32 | jelly | !ssb |
| 23:11.32 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 23:11.48 | jelly | read from "If unavailable: " onward. |
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| 23:12.23 | Agiofws | jelly, those instructions are somewhat like a man file |
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| 23:12.53 | jelly | Agiofws: that "how" it does. "what" it does is build versions of software from sid, on your (jessie) system. If it works. |
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| 23:13.18 | jelly | the instructions are a terse recipe. |
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| 23:13.36 | Agiofws | ok instruction 1 confuses me |
| 23:13.40 | jelly | building nouveau from source is a much long recipe. |
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| 23:13.50 | Agiofws | add deb-src in what line in sources? |
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| 23:14.04 | jelly | Agiofws: ask dpkg about deb-src sid |
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| 23:14.15 | Jaga-Jaga | jelly: my system partition is now using 58gb. if i'd delete everything .... i'll free up maybe 10gb at most. so it still a 48gb can that be? |
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| 23:14.46 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: it's possibly, but unlikely the OS components take most of that space. |
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| 23:15.28 | Jaga-Jaga | jelly: what else could take the space? i have my music/videos on a different partition. |
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| 23:16.06 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: do "du -x / > ~/du-x-root.log", when it's finished, look at the output of, say, "sort -n ~/du-x-root.log | tail -n 30" |
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| 23:16.29 | jelly | "du" is a useful command in this case. |
| 23:16.34 | Agiofws | jelly, so i add deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free that line in sources? |
| 23:16.41 | jelly | Agiofws: correct |
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| 23:17.02 | Agiofws | do i remove deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main ? |
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| 23:17.55 | jelly | Agiofws: does the recipe say to remove it? |
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| 23:18.02 | Agiofws | nope |
| 23:18.06 | jelly | then... nope |
| 23:18.15 | pron | is there any way to run disk-detect 2 times in a row from preseed? |
| 23:18.55 | Agiofws | ok " enable debian-backports" do i again edit sources? |
| 23:19.34 | pron | cause sometimes it doesnt detect disks untill i select it manualy |
| 23:20.51 | jelly | Agiofws: if you don't have a deb line for those already, yeah. /msg dpkg jessie-backports |
| 23:21.09 | Agiofws | i think i do |
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| 23:21.42 | Agiofws | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main non-free |
| 23:21.43 | Agiofws | ? |
| 23:21.45 | Agiofws | and |
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| 23:22.02 | Agiofws | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main |
| 23:22.02 | Agiofws | deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main |
| 23:22.06 | Agiofws | so i do |
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| 23:22.45 | Agiofws | now after aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename ? |
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| 23:23.19 | jelly | Agiofws: for libdrm2 first, yes. |
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| 23:23.58 | thurstylark | Has anyone gotten a Blackmagic Decklink HDMI input card working? |
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| 23:24.39 | Agiofws | root@P4:/etc/apt# aptitude build-dep libdrm2 |
| 23:24.39 | Agiofws | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 23:24.39 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:38.22 | iWaldo | i am unable to connect to ftp.us.debian.org during install. several other mirrors seem to have worked. ipv6 is configured. any tips? |
| 23:39.03 | Agiofws | jelly, ok i apt-get -b source libdrm2 now how do i install or is it already installed? |
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| 23:39.34 | jelly | Agiofws: does the recipe say it's already installed? |
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| 23:40.07 | Agiofws | dpkg-source --after-build libdrm-2.4.65 |
| 23:40.07 | Agiofws | dpkg-buildpackage: binary-only upload (no source included) |
| 23:40.17 | Agiofws | thats the last line |
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| 23:40.40 | jelly | Agiofws: which numbered steps in ssb recipe did you do thus far? |
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| 23:40.54 | Agiofws | until 3 |
| 23:41.11 | Agiofws | 4 says 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 23:41.30 | Agiofws | can see any resultant deb file |
| 23:42.23 | Agiofws | aptitude install build-essential mesa |
| 23:42.23 | Agiofws | Couldn't find package "mesa", and more than 40 |
| 23:42.23 | Agiofws | packages contain "mesa" in their name. |
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| 23:44.57 | jelly | Agiofws: if you look carefully at the output of the build, it says something like "the packages are created in parent directory if if the output says they're built here" |
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| 23:46.36 | Agiofws | apt-get -b source mesa take long ? |
| 23:47.10 | jelly | Agiofws: did you install the .debs from libdrm2 first? |
| 23:47.39 | Agiofws | i think so i followed all the instructions |
| 23:48.01 | jelly | Agiofws: did you find the built .debs from libdrm2? |
| 23:48.08 | Agiofws | wait |
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| 23:48.27 | Agiofws | image link: https://i.imgur.com/Dll0Wtv.png |
| 23:48.34 | Agiofws | yes i think i found them now |
| 23:48.43 | Agiofws | do i have to install them one by one? |
| 23:48.45 | Jaga-Jaga | jelly: here is the output, https://paste.debian.net/333190/ |
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| 23:49.36 | jelly | Agiofws: you can install them all in one go |
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| 23:52.07 | Agiofws | jelly, i do the same for mesa with this install nouveau on my system or do i have to go through synaptic to install it ? |
| 23:52.09 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: the numbers are in KiB, sort sorted them. You have 14 GB worth of logs. And 20GB worth of vmware stuff, 13GB of which is an xp vm. |
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| 23:52.34 | Agiofws | will it black list vesa driver for example? |
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| 23:53.16 | jelly | Agiofws: then you'll have mesa 11 and people in #nouveau will be willing to help you debug any opengl issues. |
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| 23:53.51 | Agiofws | if i choose nouveau via synaptic will it replace it will old mesa? |
| 23:54.15 | Agiofws | i guess so |
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| 23:54.34 | Agiofws | anyway going to continue install tomorrow its late... :) |
| 23:54.43 | Agiofws | thank you for you patience jelly ... |
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| 23:54.51 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: and you have 4GB worth of downloaded packages in "/var/cache/apt/archives". This is the easiest to clean: "apt-get autoclean" will wipe all the old ones that do not even exist in repos any more. |
| 23:55.10 | jelly | Agiofws: good night |
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| 23:55.51 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: "apt-get clean" will wipe all the packages, at the risk of having to download some again. |
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| 23:56.57 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: so, you have 57GB used, out of that 32GB is user data in /home, that leaves 15GB for the OS. |
| 23:57.24 | jelly | Jaga-Jaga: and out of that 15GB there's lots of logs and apt cache that can probably be cleaned up. |
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