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| 00:00.10 | SynrG | woshty: :) |
| 00:00.33 | woshty | SynrG: copied the wrong line |
| 00:00.36 | SynrG | fun |
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| 00:03.07 | doggydog | hey guys, problem with the grub install of the debian 8.1 net installer (or is it 8.2) |
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| 00:03.58 | doggydog | I dropped in a shell to see if I could see any /efi/boot or /boot/efi directory after installing, and nothing was found. I take for granted now that i'm doing an mbr install |
| 00:04.16 | doggydog | problem is, when I install grub on /dev/sdc, my sdd, I subsequently can't boot |
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| 00:04.36 | doggydog | and I'm left wondering what's the proper procedure when installing grub on something else than "first sector of the first disk" |
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| 00:05.42 | doggydog | I tried leaving a 10MB free space at the beginning of the disk, to no avail. Tried putting my /dev/sdc1 partition with boot flag on, to no avail |
| 00:06.14 | pavlz | type on your own shell sudo apt-get moo |
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| 00:06.42 | pavlz | and enjoy yourself |
| 00:07.22 | doggydog | but the weird thing is, even if there is no /efi/boot or /boot/efi, I can still find /sys/firmware/efi on my disk |
| 00:07.54 | SynrG | pavlz: perhaps you should just watch and see how this channel works before speaking up. it's a support channel |
| 00:07.55 | doggydog | which is making me perplexed, because I'm really unsure which version of Grub I'm installing |
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| 00:09.05 | doggydog | I went first on ##linux, but they told me to come here for this specific question< |
| 00:09.09 | doggydog | anybody has any idea? |
| 00:10.15 | doggydog | Also, I read the GrubEFIReinstall page, and it seems like a freaking hamfisted way of recovering a failed install |
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| 00:10.42 | doggydog | I'm really wondering what the proper course of action is to make a fresh install without additional software |
| 00:11.08 | shanemikel | doggydog: why don't you use the installation tool? |
| 00:11.34 | doggydog | what do you mean? I did use the net installer on USB key |
| 00:11.51 | Trbo_ | running an mdraid, would it be destroyed if i reinstall the os? os is on a separate drive, apart from the array |
| 00:12.13 | doggydog | went through the steps, manually partitioned my drives, installed grub on /dev/sdc, and now can't boot |
| 00:12.32 | doggydog | no /boot/efi on my disks afterward, but /sys/firmware/efi is present |
| 00:12.48 | doggydog | so I seems like Debian did an EFI install, but made a MBR grub |
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| 00:13.05 | pavlz | try #kernel |
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| 00:13.24 | shanemikel | doggydog: don't listen to him |
| 00:13.41 | shanemikel | sorry, I've never done efi install |
| 00:13.58 | SynrG | doggydog: likewise. but if you wait here, maybe someone can help |
| 00:14.22 | axc1298 | i did efi install. the grub step of the installer didn't even ask me where i wanted to install it, i think. it just installed to /dev/sda |
| 00:14.30 | woshty | doggydog: at what point did you unplug your usb key? I once had issues with that .. |
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| 00:14.41 | SynrG | doggydog: out of curiosity, why 8.1? |
| 00:15.04 | doggydog | yes, 8.1. I didn't install on /dev/sda, what the installer calls "first sector of the first disk" |
| 00:15.18 | doggydog | because my /dev/sda disk is a backup disk, which I wanted to leave as is |
| 00:15.43 | SynrG | but 8.2 is current |
| 00:15.47 | doggydog | i never unpluged my usb key, I'm manually choosing /dev/sdc in my BIOS to boot from it |
| 00:15.48 | SynrG | so, i was just curious |
| 00:16.02 | doggydog | it,s possible that it,s 8.2, I took the most recent version 3 days ago on the website |
| 00:16.38 | SynrG | 8.2 was released sep. 5 |
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| 00:17.17 | doggydog | also, I don't even know if I'm doing the efi install or not; I sure am launching my USB key from unetbootin |
| 00:17.25 | SynrG | oh! |
| 00:17.29 | SynrG | !unetbootin |
| 00:17.29 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 00:17.49 | doggydog | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 00:17.50 | woshty | doggydog: Iirc back some time unplugging the usb stick before selecting bootloader in the menu fixed things for me on that machine .. but that had nothing to do with uefi |
| 00:17.51 | markybob | ugh |
| 00:17.56 | SynrG | that's not an exaggeration either |
| 00:17.58 | shanemikel | you can just use dd to write the image |
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| 00:18.17 | SynrG | "mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways" is a fair characterization |
| 00:18.24 | doggydog | holy smoke |
| 00:18.45 | doggydog | will dd if=<that darn img> of=/dev/sde bs=1M work with a uefi bios? |
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| 00:19.03 | doggydog | not /dev/sde1, just /dev/sde |
| 00:19.03 | SynrG | the installation manual says to use cp |
| 00:19.05 | markybob | doggydog, sure but you should probably use 4M. and you can use simple cp like the manual says |
| 00:19.18 | doggydog | so it's on the parittion, not the drive itself |
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| 00:19.25 | SynrG | no. the drive |
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| 00:19.45 | waressearcher2 | what range of port numbers debian chooses for its outgoing connections ? is it 1024-65535 ? |
| 00:20.01 | doggydog | so it has to be dd, unless cp can copy directly to a drive without it being mounted? |
| 00:20.11 | doggydog | that would be weird |
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| 00:20.31 | SynrG | cp can, yes. |
| 00:20.39 | doggydog | but again, I though dd'ing an image onto a drive only worked with MBR bios |
| 00:20.40 | markybob | waressearcher2, sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range generally |
| 00:20.51 | markybob | waressearcher2, without the obvious "generally" :P |
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| 00:21.16 | SynrG | i don't see what the BIOS has to do with copying a bunch of bytes from point a to b. |
| 00:21.18 | markybob | waressearcher2, you can change it. for example: sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range="1024 64000" |
| 00:21.48 | doggydog | it has to do with how that key will be launched once I reboot and choose that drive as my launch point |
| 00:22.12 | doggydog | not sure I can just dd onto that drive, but I'll try it anyway |
| 00:22.16 | doggydog | for science, of course |
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| 00:24.26 | markybob | ah matt damon.. "science the shit out of this" |
| 00:24.49 | doggydog | embarassingly, I had more success installing Slackware with LILO than Debian with GRUB |
| 00:25.04 | doggydog | I must be doing something horribly wrong |
| 00:25.13 | SynrG | unetbootin is horribly wrong, yes |
| 00:25.47 | doggydog | and do you know of any way to distinguish, during the installation, if I'm doing EFI or MBR install? |
| 00:25.55 | SynrG | no |
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| 00:26.17 | SynrG | it's the sort of thing i might care about if i had EFI hardware. i don't, so that's outside my experience |
| 00:26.25 | markybob | doggydog, keep in mind live installer doesn't do uefi. just won't work |
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| 00:26.49 | jelly | live installer? |
| 00:26.54 | doggydog | so I can assume it,s doing a regular install, where Grub doesnt need a special boot partition or anything fancy like that |
| 00:26.56 | SynrG | markybob: not relevant. doggydog indicated netinst |
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| 00:27.38 | markybob | SynrG, it's relevant since he's doing it again. wanted to make sure he didn't say "let me try this" |
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| 00:28.05 | doggydog | in that case, which partition scheme should I choose? Does installing grub on /dev/sdc on some 10 MB I leave empty at the top of the disk enough for it to work? |
| 00:28.20 | doggydog | I'm really unsure about what,s happening at boot the find grub and bootstrap it somehow |
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| 00:31.28 | doggydog | it's one of those situation where I'm unsure if I grok what's happening, or if I'm luring myself into believing I understand |
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| 00:31.53 | pavlx | hi |
| 00:32.37 | SynrG | doggydog: overthinking it? i've always found debian installs pretty straightforward. if you don't know how to decide, just go with all defaults and it "just works" |
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| 00:32.49 | SynrG | doggydog: also, debian installation guide is pretty good |
| 00:32.53 | SynrG | read it |
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| 00:34.19 | doggydog | yeah, but the installation won't partition my drives the way I want them, so that leaves me with either moving my drives in my pc, which I could try if this next install fails, or installing grub manually where I should want it |
| 00:34.36 | doggydog | and so far, that didn't work (and I'm not even raiding or LVMing anything) |
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| 00:35.39 | SynrG | you mean "so far" using unetbootin? |
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| 00:36.00 | pavlx | i asked before help, asking how to use my kingston 64gb micro sd with the usb sandisk adapter, i gave all the specs about it: [33966.322604] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] 122519552 512-byte logical blocks: (62.7 GB/58.4 GiB) and [34103.120092] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc] 122519552 512-byte logical blocks: (62.7 GB/58.4 GiB) how to mount it ? |
| 00:36.04 | doggydog | yeah, now I'm booting again and trying for the first time without unetbootin |
| 00:36.21 | SynrG | pavlx: is there a filesystem on it? |
| 00:36.29 | pavlx | sure |
| 00:36.30 | SynrG | pavlx: and if so, what created the filesystem? |
| 00:36.48 | pavlx | it is full of files |
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| 00:37.37 | pavlx | it is just for this that i want to move my files in to the hdd or in to the pen drive |
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| 00:38.11 | shanemikel | do you have a desktop environment that automatically mounts external storage devices? |
| 00:38.24 | doggydog | just to be sure, boot flag or not on my / partition? |
| 00:38.29 | doggydog | is it ever needed? |
| 00:38.38 | pavlx | the micro sd is used on a mobile phone with android |
| 00:38.57 | SynrG | so android created the filesystem? |
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| 00:39.03 | abrotman | pavlx: sdc or sdd ? there are two there |
| 00:39.08 | pavlx | sdc |
| 00:39.16 | abrotman | so the other one is useless? |
| 00:39.25 | abrotman | pavlx: fdisk -l /dev/sdc |
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| 00:41.11 | Nydjer | does debian work with ppa packages? |
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| 00:41.30 | Nydjer | apt-add-repository: command not found |
| 00:41.37 | markybob | Nydjer, it works. it won't be supported here because we can't know what they do/change/break |
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| 00:42.19 | markybob | Nydjer, sudo apt-get install software-properties-common |
| 00:42.54 | Nydjer | thx, markybob |
| 00:43.35 | doggydog | I'm at a crossroad of my installation: if I'm installing grub on another disk than /dev/sda, do I need to leave space at the front of the disk to make sure nothing get overwritten? Do I need a bootable partition ? |
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| 00:46.29 | abrotman | no and no |
| 00:46.55 | shanemikel | doggydog: are you sure you need to account for that with efi? using bios, I've never had to worry about that because fdisk leaves enough space automatically for mbr (so I only need be concerned with whether to use separate /boot part) |
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| 00:47.45 | shanemikel | and usually you install grub to the disk, not a specific partition |
| 00:47.45 | iw0fzw | i used gparted |
| 00:47.47 | doggydog | in that case, if the installer is indeed creating my partitions and fs with fdisk behind, I should assume that 2042 bytes will be left empty at the top |
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| 00:48.06 | pavlx | i used gparted which says |
| 00:48.32 | doggydog | unfortunately, my disks were empty, no partitions nor any fs on them before the installer |
| 00:49.19 | pavlx | 16Mbyte unoloccated |
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| 00:49.47 | doggydog | ok, so these programs do leave some space at the top |
| 00:49.48 | shanemikel | have you been following the installation guides in the wiki? |
| 00:50.05 | doggydog | I differ from the installation guide when it comes to partitioning and installing grub |
| 00:50.13 | pavlx | and /dev/sdc1 unknown 58.41 GB |
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| 00:50.31 | doggydog | it's not my first debian install, but it's the first one I do where I wanna choose manually where grub is installed |
| 00:51.57 | SynrG | pavlx: this is why i asked what created that filesystem. sounds like something you're not currently equipped to handle. ntfs? exfat? |
| 00:52.24 | pavlx | partition HPFS/NTFS |
| 00:52.47 | shanemikel | right, so you should be able to partition said disk however you want (not worrying about mbr, just the partitions, and select install grub to the disk like /dev/sdc NOT /dev/sdc1 or whatever) minus any efi wickedness for which I am unaware.. I have done similar things before with no problem, it depends on how friendly the graphical partitioning tool is |
| 00:53.19 | SynrG | !ntfs-3g |
| 00:53.20 | dpkg | NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g". Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Also ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 00:53.24 | SynrG | pavlx: ^^ |
| 00:53.35 | doggydog | that,s exactly how I though it would go down shanemikel, but I first installed the iso with unetbootin, which I was told is _literally_ the devil |
| 00:53.36 | shanemikel | sometimes it's easier on systems that have you mount manually and run an installation script, but otherwise, it shouldn't be as hard as your making it (again, unless efi is that wicked) |
| 00:53.49 | SynrG | pavlx: also /msg dpkg user accessible ntfs |
| 00:53.55 | doggydog | yeah, my motherboard is making me nervous about that |
| 00:54.49 | doggydog | It's installing right now, I'll keep you guys updated when it's done |
| 00:54.52 | shanemikel | doggydog: so install the netinst again following the debian guide (using cp, dd, or whatever), and try again |
| 00:55.06 | doggydog | yup, I'm on it right now |
| 00:55.20 | doggydog | installing straight from the usb after dd'ing the image onto it |
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| 00:56.48 | pavlx | why micro sd uses hpfs/ntfs than the other ones used by GNU/linux ? |
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| 00:57.10 | pavlx | why they must complicate the things to the people ? |
| 00:57.57 | doggydog | the same reason why we have 4 different kinds of usb cables, everybody and their grandmother want their own 'standard' |
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| 00:58.21 | pavlx | infact on windows it works, but nobody say it is formatted HPFS/NTFS |
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| 00:58.30 | SynrG | pavlx: fat32 is limited. can't handle large files |
| 00:58.35 | shanemikel | windows uses ntfs, though most external disks like thumb drives and sdcards are pre-formatted with fat.. it's possible the system you used it on before decided to format the fat disk to ntfs |
| 00:58.49 | pavlx | why are not available EXT2; EXT3; EXT4......... |
| 00:59.16 | SynrG | because. |
| 00:59.19 | SynrG | next question? |
| 00:59.20 | shanemikel | otherwise, it's hardly worth complaining about or speculating |
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| 01:00.25 | pavlx | pen usb 32 gb are formatted as FAT |
| 01:01.13 | pavlx | why are not formatted as EXT2; EXT3; EXT4.... ? |
| 01:01.24 | SynrG | not a debian support question |
| 01:01.44 | pavlx | and why micro sd are formatted with HPFS/NTFS ? |
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| 01:02.07 | shanemikel | SynrG: he's not responding to your conduct suggestions |
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| 01:04.53 | doggydog | is there a custom irc command to output <somebody else's name> : <msg> ? /msg and /notice don't seem to have that effect |
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| 01:05.38 | shanemikel | doggydog: like this? |
| 01:05.52 | pavlx | i have not formatted nothing before, because i used the micro sd card only on the mobile phone |
| 01:05.55 | SynrG | doggydog: type a few characters, then press tab |
| 01:06.00 | SynrG | the nick will be tab-completed |
| 01:06.01 | shanemikel | your irc client may or may not have auto-complete ^ |
| 01:06.25 | doggydog | oh, I see, that's a feature of KiwiIRC |
| 01:06.29 | SynrG | doggydog: e.g. synr<tab> |
| 01:06.36 | doggydog | makes sense, ty |
| 01:06.38 | pavlx | and i just moved few files on other computers, but i never formatted the partition of the micro sd |
| 01:06.42 | SynrG | press tab multiple times to cycle through alternatives |
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| 01:06.58 | doggydog | SynrG: thank you, works well |
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| 01:09.06 | shanemikel | doggydog: finish the install yet? |
| 01:09.27 | doggydog | shanemikel: coming close at 70%, 2 more minutes should be it |
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| 01:11.33 | doggydog | has done configuring his packages |
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| 01:12.19 | doggydog | installing grub on my SSD now... |
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| 01:12.50 | doggydog | rebooting... oh this is exciting! |
| 01:13.04 | doggydog | fails, flashing cursor on black screen |
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| 01:14.27 | shanemikel | hmm.. well, I'm sorry. Maybe you could try reading https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI |
| 01:14.29 | millican | Can you go to the terminal with Ctrl F1 |
| 01:14.37 | millican | It culd be X not starting |
| 01:14.42 | doggydog | great, now I get "error: disk `lvmid/<long hash>` not found\nEntering rescue mode..." with a prompt from grub rescue |
| 01:14.51 | millican | oh |
| 01:15.06 | shanemikel | well that means grub has booted, no? so shouldn't be efi related problem |
| 01:15.08 | doggydog | what the crap lvmid, I KILLED you stupid logical drives 3 days ago!! |
| 01:15.50 | doggydog | great, now I'm onto google'ing grub rescue commands |
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| 01:17.22 | doggydog | ls command shows: (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) ... (hd4) (hd4, msdos1) |
| 01:19.10 | shanemikel | is secure boot disabled in uefi menu? |
| 01:19.43 | calisto | hi all, have a problem with uefi+raid1 (software) if I disconnect 1 disk all entries in uefi bios are droped, I boot using rescue debian usb and add the entry, but the boot are blocked mounting the raid any have a any solution? |
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| 01:19.52 | doggydog | good question, I have a graphical menu with much less options than what I'm used to |
| 01:20.25 | shanemikel | honestly I have no idea, so I'm just reading the UEFI wiki page and spitballing |
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| 01:21.52 | doggydog | shanemikel: yeah, that's what I did yesterday, but couldn't get it to work |
| 01:22.06 | doggydog | and no, I can,t see any menu option like 'secure boot' in my bios |
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| 01:24.56 | doggydog | third evening trying to install, and still no clue if efi is playing games on me |
| 01:25.34 | doggydog | I'm at the edge of zeroing out my drives just to make sure I don't install with previous data unerased |
| 01:25.48 | doggydog | because that lvmid/ message is messing with my head right now |
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| 01:29.00 | doggydog | you know what, I'm a sucker for cheap shortcuts, so I'll just physically disconnect the drives I don't care for during the install |
| 01:29.26 | doggydog | can I mount drives on /home and /var afterward, or do I need to do it during the install? |
| 01:29.43 | doggydog | I guess I can just mess with fstab afterwards, right? |
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| 01:30.29 | Hello71 | doggydog: wipefs |
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| 01:32.50 | doggydog | Hello71: yeah, i wanna burn it to the ground, but my calculations show that it would take me over 3h to wipe my drives single pass, so I'll skip that for now |
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| 01:33.06 | doggydog | 145MB/s is sloooow |
| 01:33.31 | Hello71 | you didn't read what I wrote at all did you |
| 01:34.02 | Hello71 | hint: man |
| 01:34.53 | doggydog | if wipefs is available in rescue shell, I'll give it a try |
| 01:35.43 | Hello71 | ahahaha... ha. ha |
| 01:37.09 | doggydog | this message is as cryptic as the last |
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| 01:41.30 | RudeViper | 2Kd4uvi |
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| 01:49.26 | asarch | Is there any tool to create .deb packages for Python modules a la Perl's dh-make-perl |
| 01:49.27 | asarch | ? |
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| 01:49.52 | asarch | I'm looking for the sqlacodegen module |
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| 01:50.50 | markybob | aseques_, https://wiki.debian.org/Python/Packaging |
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| 01:54.50 | ZeroBeholder | Does anyone know of an email host that does no filtering? Like zero, no black/grey listing, no SPF/DKIM, nothing-- floodgates open... |
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| 01:55.38 | ZeroBeholder | I'd like to sign up & send myself messages from temporary ad hoc servers... |
| 01:56.08 | abrotman | ZeroBeholder: this is #debian, please ask elsewhere |
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| 01:58.28 | ZeroBeholder | {The end result I am chasing is that I can get messages from my temporary debian boxes via exim4 without changing the spf records in a dns registration that doesn't exist...} |
| 01:59.04 | markybob | ZeroBeholder, i wouldn't go against abrotman's advice. move elsewhere |
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| 02:01.28 | ZeroBeholder | I would also be tickled pink to hear alternative solutions, I respect abrotman very much-- but I disagree that this isn't a debian problem. I want to send myself email without SPF records from a debiam box. |
| 02:01.54 | ZeroBeholder | *debian |
| 02:02.17 | abrotman | you don't need SPF records, this isn't a Debian issue |
| 02:03.00 | ZeroBeholder | Ok. I am missing something then. I haven't sent a successful email yet without one. |
| 02:03.12 | abrotman | ZeroBeholder: see, not a Debian problem |
| 02:03.32 | doggydog | ZeroBeholder: private chat with me, I used to set up mail servers |
| 02:03.37 | asarch | Thank you markybob |
| 02:03.41 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
| 02:04.15 | markybob | asarch, you're welcome :) |
| 02:04.18 | ZeroBeholder | Thanks doggy dog, apologies if I offended. |
| 02:04.20 | abrotman | this should be interesting ... |
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| 02:10.10 | doggydog | my second installation of the night is almost over |
| 02:10.23 | doggydog | let's see if grub on sda changes anything |
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| 02:13.34 | doggydog | WHAT THE HEL |
| 02:13.43 | doggydog | for the love of god, why does it work |
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| 02:14.14 | doggydog | I just physically swapped my drives to get /dev/sdc to appear as /dev/sda!? |
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| 02:15.32 | doggydog | well, that's terrible, now the xfce desktop doesn,t want to open |
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| 02:17.52 | livingroom | are there any samba expers here PLEASE |
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| 02:26.07 | abrotman | livingroom: you know about #samba, right? |
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| 02:30.44 | livingroom | abrotman: yes, but there's never anybody in there |
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| 02:32.00 | somiaj | livingroom: Be paitent, better chance of getting someone who has experience with this. Sometimes answer take a while in channels. |
| 02:32.36 | somiaj | livingroom: also I'm sure you have done this, but it was the host -t SRV _ldap._tcp.samdom.example.com. that was not working for you? |
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| 02:36.19 | livingroom | somiaj: i appreciate your help - i think i may be working now. the only problems i'm having is getting users to work. |
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| 02:40.24 | livingroom | got disconnected. anyway just seem to be having user troubles now. somehow i fought through all the other crap |
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| 03:03.16 | doggydog | finally did it guys, I installed Debian from usb after the nth time |
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| 03:03.55 | doggydog | manually switched my drives to make my / drive sda, now I could see Grub screen (for whatever reason) |
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| 03:04.34 | doggydog | then I had another issue, I was booting into a black screen! hurray! |
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| 03:05.11 | doggydog | changing grub "quiet" flag to "nomodeset" made the difference, and now I can boot into debian 8.2 |
| 03:05.36 | doggydog | this was a fairly crappy experience, but at last, I wanna thank you all for your help |
| 03:05.57 | doggydog | SynrG, thank you for your time, and everybody else too |
| 03:07.20 | doggydog | I still don't understand what's the difference between installing grub on sdc and what I just did on sda, but I don't care anymore if it works |
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| 04:01.02 | waressearcher2 | if host susceptible to blind icmp-reset attack, why do they call it vulnerability ? and why should it be patched ? I mean its a noraml behaviour to response to this kind of ICMP packets |
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| 05:01.20 | MACscr | Any suggestions how i can solve this systemd issue? http://screencast.com/t/9pydcpQMIXyh |
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| 05:13.27 | Rusty1 | MACscr: no idea if this is relevant: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=634472 |
| 05:13.40 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/634472 in systemd (closed): «systemd doesn't start dbus.socket»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-07-19; last modified: 2014-04-22. |
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| 05:14.46 | MACscr | Rusty1: additional information. This issue didnt start until I installed the mellanox ethernet drivers |
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| 05:15.20 | MACscr | of course the cards work fine with ubuntu 14.04, but thats not what im needing right now. =( |
| 05:15.25 | MACscr | running debian 8.2 here |
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| 05:51.38 | johnflux | I git clone'd a repo that has a debian/ folder. Is there a command to install the build dependencies? |
| 05:52.05 | johnflux | does debian have some command to read the debian/control and install the build dep |
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| 06:02.24 | peterrooney | johnflux: don't know if a command exists to read that folder, but 'apt-get build-dep packagename' should do what you need. |
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| 06:34.17 | MoRpHyEyS | morning guys, how can I install the video drivers on my debian 8.2 jessie |
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| 06:44.14 | dionysus69 | getting this error while compiling https://gist.github.com/webzorg/7c688028ef284203bcaf any suggestions appreciated |
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| 06:46.31 | civillian | dionysus69: looks like a missing header file, use 'apt-file search sndfile.h' to look for packages with that file |
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| 06:47.29 | dionysus69 | thanks civillian |
| 06:47.46 | vitfalk | Goodmorning guys |
| 06:48.07 | dionysus69 | theres no suck command though hmm |
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| 07:55.17 | dionysus69 | ok so I have a dev machine and production machine, I have an RSA key on dev machine and how do i login with ssh to production machine with with that key? |
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| 08:08.42 | suexec | Debian 7.8 Wheezy, kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64. XFCE window manager. Using NetworkManager Applet for my networking, and I have added a VPN connection. However, when I click the VPN connection, nothing happens. daemon.log and messages has no information in it. dmesg says nothing. I am at a loss. What could be wrong and where can I look for problems ? |
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| 08:13.12 | IOhannes | dionysus69: man ssh-copy-id |
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| 08:15.33 | dionysus69 | ssh-copy-id <username>@<host> host part should be ip right ? but what if I change locations then this method is quite useless ? or am i missing something |
| 08:16.21 | simonlnu | hostname or ip |
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| 08:17.04 | dionysus69 | damn it that is a problem, I dont have my laptop hooked on dns, |
| 08:17.28 | babilen | dionysus69: Look into dyn(amic) dns |
| 08:17.43 | dionysus69 | is it free? :D |
| 08:18.01 | babilen | dpkg: no-ip |
| 08:18.01 | dpkg | No-IP is a dynamic DNS service provider. The ddclient (noip protocol) and inadyn update clients are compatible with this service. The no-ip.com update client (noip2) was removed from Debian to resolve bug #653957. http://www.noip.com/integrate/request |
| 08:18.02 | IOhannes | dionysus69: "host" need oly be valid when you run ssh-copy-id, which you do exactly *once* |
| 08:18.03 | dionysus69 | lmfo all this to deploy with capistrano |
| 08:18.20 | IOhannes | so just use the *current* IP |
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| 08:18.39 | IOhannes | ssh-copy-id will then copy a file to the remote machine (the public key) |
| 08:18.47 | babilen | dionysus69: Use salt-ssh |
| 08:19.05 | dionysus69 | yes but ssh login will work from different ip in the future thats my question ? |
| 08:19.12 | babilen | Sure |
| 08:19.13 | IOhannes | dionysus69: from then onwards you can login to the remote machine via the ssh-key, regardless of the IP or hostname of the remote |
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| 08:19.27 | dionysus69 | oh ok that was my point of confusion |
| 08:19.33 | dionysus69 | more questions incoming standby :D |
| 08:19.38 | dionysus69 | haha |
| 08:20.04 | babilen | Well, no .. ssh user@host would only work if the remote IP or hostname (the 'host' part) doesn't change. Naturally your local client's IP/hostname can change. |
| 08:21.14 | babilen | ssh-copy-id simply places the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host. If you connect to the remote afterwards your private key will be used. |
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| 08:22.02 | babilen | If the remote hostname or IP changes it won't be a problem with the authorized_keys, but SSH will complain as its entry in the known_hosts file differs from the current situation (nasty warning) |
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| 08:22.42 | IsntFunny | Good Morning. How can i find out which type of hard disk connections my pc has? Like IDE/AHCI/SATA (i don't know what else) |
| 08:23.19 | IsntFunny | I mean, the currently connected disk, not all possible connections, only currently active ones |
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| 08:24.01 | dionysus69 | ok thanks all! its working later I ll try connecting from home =) |
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| 08:53.12 | tennix | oh, it seems i installed a broken version |
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| 09:07.25 | l3archos | hi all. I am running Jessie on a notebook Lenovo ideapad Z710 and whenever I plug in my external display the internal one is getting brightness 0% and I have to press the FN-key and brightness keys to raise the brightness again so it comes visible. Where can I configure that behaviour, so the internal display still remains visible/bright ? |
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| 09:49.31 | berarma | l3archos, I've never seen that but for me debugging brightness issues has involved BIOS settings, ACPI, xserver, and desktop settings. |
| 09:49.58 | MACscr | How do i find out what is loading the kernel module mlx4_ib on my system? |
| 09:50.11 | berarma | one of those must be doing it, most probably BIOS or ACPI scripts |
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| 09:51.26 | berarma | MACscr, it should be automatically loaded by the kernel |
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| 09:53.23 | MACscr | berarma: but i dont want it and i dont know why the kernel thinks i do |
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| 09:54.00 | MACscr | so i need to find out why because im pretty sure its screwing up my mlx4_en driver |
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| 10:30.01 | berarma | MACscr, is it loading the incorrect module then? |
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| 10:30.36 | berarma | you can run "lspci -v" to see which modules are used by your hardware. |
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| 10:51.20 | nils17 | hi. I want to migrate from one ssd-drive (128GB) to a bigger ssd (512GB). I think dd / ddrescue etc would be the wrong tools, because they work "sector-wise",right? how would you migrate? |
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| 10:52.59 | hiya | has anyone built Encfs 2.0? |
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| 10:54.11 | teraflops | nils17: dd is ok. Just resize the partition after the dd. |
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| 11:08.47 | bronse | When I boot the live image of standard Debian 8.2.0 I am greeted with a login query. No idea what to enter. I have tried many things with no success. Will someone give me a hint? |
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| 11:10.38 | allizom | should be "user" and "live" IIRC bronse |
| 11:11.20 | bronse | Thanks you so much. Where is that written down? |
| 11:11.45 | bronse | I would be totally lost if you hadn't just told me. |
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| 11:13.08 | allizom | did it work? I had the same problem as you, but I don't remember how I did find the default username/password |
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| 11:15.08 | IOhannes | bronse: https://google.com/search?q=Debian+live+CD+username+password |
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| 11:29.02 | amdp_ | hi how do I check if all the apt-get repositories structure is all right? |
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| 11:29.52 | amdp_ | is it ok to have an empty sources.list.d folder? |
| 11:30.02 | Bittarman | yes |
| 11:30.09 | amdp_ | alright thanks :-) |
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| 11:37.26 | AxonetBE | Is there something like logstash-forwarder for arm? |
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| 11:41.18 | amdp_ | hi is there a way to clear /var/cache/apt of the old files from wheezy? or delete everything and repopulate with jessie .deb files? |
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| 11:41.34 | ewew | amdp_ Yes. apt-get clean. |
| 11:41.56 | ewew | It clears all. |
| 11:42.00 | amdp_ | ewew: does it clean everything |
| 11:42.11 | amdp_ | ewew: ok and how do I re-populate it? |
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| 11:42.27 | ewew | when you install new packages. |
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| 12:03.36 | GitGud | hi. I'm having trouble running an apt-get update because of the following error: apt-get update E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. N: Is the package apt-transport-https installed? |
| 12:03.42 | GitGud | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 12:04.21 | FVV | what about reinstalling apt? |
| 12:04.40 | GitGud | in google, the general consensus happens to be to install 'apt-get install apt-transport-https'. but when i do that i literally get the same error |
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| 12:04.49 | GitGud | FVV, what do you mean |
| 12:05.13 | FVV | sudo apt-get install apt |
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| 12:05.24 | GitGud | ok going to try right now and report back. thanks |
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| 12:05.59 | GitGud | ok FVV it ssays : apt is already the newest version. |
| 12:06.03 | GitGud | and does not update anything |
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| 12:07.09 | IOhannes | GitGud: what about doing what it says: installing apt-transport-https? |
| 12:07.10 | FVV | try this url maybe |
| 12:07.15 | FVV | http://askubuntu.com/questions/104160/method-driver-usr-lib-apt-methods-https-could-not-be-found-update-error |
| 12:07.22 | FVV | looks like your problem |
| 12:07.23 | SynrG | i suspect your mirror is redirecting to https |
| 12:07.25 | GitGud | IOhannes, When i do that i literally get the same error |
| 12:07.36 | SynrG | switching mirrors to one that doesn't is one possible workaround |
| 12:07.44 | GitGud | SynrG, yes and i can post my mirror file and all of them are http:// |
| 12:07.49 | SynrG | apt is not the only way to install a package. |
| 12:07.57 | SynrG | you can download the deb and install it with dpkg -i |
| 12:07.58 | IOhannes | GitGud: then manually download the package and install it via dpkg |
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| 12:08.12 | Bittarman | make is usually better :p |
| 12:08.28 | SynrG | GitGud: that's what i'm saying ... it's http, but the mirror itself is redirecting you to https:. you could try switching to a mirror that doesn't do that. |
| 12:08.45 | IOhannes | GitGud: https://packages.debian.org/apt-transport-https |
| 12:08.52 | GitGud | SynrG, which mirror would let me install https apt transport but not https itself? |
| 12:09.16 | IOhannes | the question is not about "installing https itself" |
| 12:09.25 | GitGud | IOhannes, i tried dpkg isntall and i get an error for a package missing called: libapt-pkg4.12 |
| 12:09.38 | GitGud | so i got that deb for that one too and it installs but returns same error |
| 12:09.42 | IOhannes | then you most likely downloaded the wrong version |
| 12:10.02 | SynrG | ,v apt-transport-https |
| 12:10.02 | IOhannes | "returns same error" means what? |
| 12:10.03 | judd | Package: apt-transport-https on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 0.8.10.3+squeeze7; wheezy-security: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie: 1.0.9.8.1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.9.8.2; sid: 1.0.10.2; stretch: 1.0.10.2; experimental: 1.1~exp15 |
| 12:10.07 | SynrG | ,v libapt-pkg4.12 |
| 12:10.09 | judd | Package: libapt-pkg4.12 on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie: 1.0.9.8.1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.9.8.2 |
| 12:10.45 | GitGud | i run debian 8 |
| 12:10.48 | SynrG | it may be that libapt-pkg4.12 is not needed except by this extension |
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| 12:11.03 | SynrG | so if dpkg -i fails due to a missing dependency, download and install the dependency too |
| 12:11.18 | GitGud | yes. thats what i just said. |
| 12:11.19 | SynrG | but as i said before, there are *two* possible workarounds ... |
| 12:11.24 | IOhannes | GitGud: and here's a list of mirrors: https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 12:11.24 | GitGud | <GitGud> IOhannes, i tried dpkg isntall and i get an error for a package missing called: libapt-pkg4.12 |
| 12:11.24 | GitGud | <GitGud> so i got that deb for that one too and it installs but returns same error |
| 12:11.29 | SynrG | one is to install this extension. the other is to switch irrors. |
| 12:11.30 | GitGud | yeah i was gonna try that ^ |
| 12:11.38 | GitGud | i want to switch mirror first |
| 12:11.48 | GitGud | how do i know which mirror uses http only |
| 12:11.59 | IOhannes | open the URL with your browser |
| 12:12.02 | SynrG | GitGud: 'it installs but returns same error' <- i can't parse that ... |
| 12:12.03 | GitGud | and another question is, when i do that do i remove the other already existing mirrors? |
| 12:12.08 | SynrG | GitGud: which same error? |
| 12:12.11 | IOhannes | or try a few (that are close by) |
| 12:12.13 | IOhannes | SynrG: +1 |
| 12:12.13 | GitGud | hold on |
| 12:12.20 | GitGud | let me try the mirror thing |
| 12:12.27 | SynrG | GitGud: if you truly installed libapt-pkg4.12, dpkg cannot be telling you it can't find the package. |
| 12:12.34 | SynrG | it must be a new error |
| 12:12.40 | SynrG | read it closely :) |
| 12:12.44 | GitGud | yes i did |
| 12:12.45 | GitGud | hold on |
| 12:12.50 | IOhannes | or some other "old error" |
| 12:13.00 | GitGud | let me show u. also its hard to copy paste here cause i might get kicked for "spam" |
| 12:13.01 | SynrG | but now i must leave. good luck |
| 12:13.05 | SynrG | gotta catch my bus to work |
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| 12:13.10 | GitGud | so i have to post it all to pastebin |
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| 12:13.14 | GitGud | so one second |
| 12:13.36 | IOhannes | GitGud: use a pastie to paste multi-line output (or input for that matter) |
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| 12:13.45 | IOhannes | don't paste it into the RIC |
| 12:13.48 | IOhannes | IRC |
| 12:13.57 | GitGud | ok i gotchu hold on im typing a question |
| 12:14.12 | GitGud | IOhannes, this canadian mirror http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ does not open an https in the browser. so do i add it to the /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all the other ones (comment them out) then tr apt-get update right? |
| 12:14.19 | GitGud | is that the idea of it? |
| 12:14.26 | IOhannes | yes that's the basic idea |
| 12:14.27 | GitGud | try* |
| 12:14.29 | IOhannes | in practice do |
| 12:14.31 | IOhannes | : |
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| 12:14.49 | IOhannes | comment all the other lines, by prefixing them with '#' rather than deleting them |
| 12:15.02 | GitGud | yueah thats what i wrote in bracket lol |
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| 12:15.29 | IOhannes | ? |
| 12:15.43 | GitGud | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:15.52 | IOhannes | ah, ok |
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| 12:16.20 | GitGud | IOhannes, do i append this line called: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 12:16.29 | IOhannes | no |
| 12:16.32 | GitGud | do i need to add something in the back of that line? or is that it? |
| 12:16.48 | IOhannes | you need a line like: |
| 12:17.04 | IOhannes | deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 12:17.23 | GitGud | okay thanks |
| 12:17.25 | GitGud | i'm trying now |
| 12:18.39 | GitGud | IOhannes, yeah i got the error like: apt-get update E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. N: Is the package apt-transport-https |
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| 12:18.51 | GitGud | yeah so same thing as the first problem still |
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| 12:19.25 | GitGud | seems like it wants to https anyway |
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| 12:20.22 | IOhannes | create a pastie and paste the *full* output |
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| 12:21.40 | GitGud | ok yu know what im gonna do. i'm gonna post a output of the thing i get after i did the apt-get update after changing the sources.list file. and in the same paste show what i get when i dpkg -i it |
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| 12:22.00 | IOhannes | as long as it is readable |
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| 12:22.55 | IOhannes | GitGud: don't forget to post the URL of your pastie :-) |
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| 12:23.02 | SynrG | You could continue to try alternate mirrors, too |
| 12:23.15 | GitGud | SynrG, seems like it is dead set on https |
| 12:23.20 | GitGud | but yes i will post hold on |
| 12:23.26 | GitGud | i'm fixing it up |
| 12:23.31 | SynrG | And remember the ca mirror is just a pointer |
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| 12:23.53 | SynrG | i.e. could just point back at your original mirror |
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| 12:24.29 | SynrG | Try specific mirror addresses for best (at least reproducible) results |
| 12:25.03 | SynrG | Many of those pointers are on dns rotation |
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| 12:25.25 | SynrG | So you can't tell which mirror you are getting from one run to the next |
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| 12:26.45 | GitGud | IOhannes, SynrG |
| 12:26.45 | GitGud | http://pastebin.com/wnwg6JAh |
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| 12:27.44 | GitGud | i guess in the end the apt-get install -f removes the goddamn https thing. but i'll show u an alternate post where i dont force it |
| 12:27.47 | GitGud | hold on |
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| 12:27.59 | SynrG | Wrong version |
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| 12:28.31 | SynrG | ,v libapt-pkg-4.12 |
| 12:28.33 | judd | No package named 'libapt-pkg-4.12' was found in amd64. |
| 12:28.36 | SynrG | Grr |
| 12:28.43 | GitGud | http://pastebin.com/Tc69YGxe |
| 12:29.09 | SynrG | phone. Typing. Ducks |
| 12:29.18 | SynrG | ;) |
| 12:29.24 | IOhannes | ,v libapt-pkg4.12 |
| 12:29.25 | judd | Package: libapt-pkg4.12 on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie: 1.0.9.8.1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.9.8.2 |
| 12:29.34 | GitGud | quack quack |
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| 12:29.54 | GitGud | ok well i typed libapt-pkg4.12 deb download into Google and found that |
| 12:30.02 | GitGud | do i look for libapt-pkg4.12 deb download jessie |
| 12:30.07 | IOhannes | you don't do that |
| 12:30.10 | SynrG | Not on Google |
| 12:30.16 | IOhannes | you go to http://packages.debian.org/libapt-pkg4.12 |
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| 12:30.26 | SynrG | Yep |
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| 12:30.32 | GitGud | ohh truu |
| 12:30.42 | SynrG | Try random things. Get random results |
| 12:30.48 | IOhannes | :-) |
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| 12:31.38 | GitGud | ok trying again |
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| 12:32.11 | GitGud | ah OMG |
| 12:32.23 | GitGud | we're almost there |
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| 12:34.53 | GitGud | ok so heres what i did: i installed lib package. worked. i installed https package. worked now. then attempted apt-get update. didnt work. theres some error with the keys. so i edited that sources.list to get back my older source list that i commented out before and i got an error with some sort of key. pastebin incoming |
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| 12:35.55 | IOhannes | GitGud: how did you break your system? |
| 12:36.36 | GitGud | to be honest, what i remember was i was experimenting with haproxy and nginx. i think i attempted a tiny bit of SSL termination with haproxy but then i purge removed both of those things |
| 12:36.40 | GitGud | hold on pastebin is coming |
| 12:37.11 | SynrG | So the proxy is screwing you over. Likely |
| 12:37.22 | amdp_ | hi is there a way to repopulate the cache archive of apt with the .deb files of already installed packages? |
| 12:37.48 | SynrG | Eliminate the proxy |
| 12:38.08 | IOhannes | GitGud: "purge" will only remove the config proivided by the package; if you happen to delete all you system while playing around with a package, then a purge won't undo that |
| 12:38.16 | GitGud | http://pastebin.com/u2DqsWhe |
| 12:38.18 | SynrG | Could explain both sigs and https redirect issues |
| 12:38.21 | IOhannes | ad proxy: eleiminate any proxy settings for apt |
| 12:38.38 | GitGud | i removed haproxy. there is no haproxy on my dpkg system |
| 12:38.41 | GitGud | same goes for nginx |
| 12:39.22 | IOhannes | eliminate any proxy settings for apt |
| 12:39.26 | GitGud | Package 'haproxy' is not installed, so not removed. Package 'nginx' is not installed, so not removed |
| 12:39.33 | GitGud | oh ok IOhannes what file then |
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| 12:39.53 | GitGud | also take a look at hte pastebin i posted what can u infer from that |
| 12:39.57 | GitGud | http://pastebin.com/u2DqsWhe |
| 12:40.15 | IOhannes | dunno, check out what's in /etc/apt/*.d/ |
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| 12:41.04 | GitGud | i gotta tell ya i dont think its a proxy issue |
| 12:41.11 | GitGud | i think its a GPG key issue |
| 12:41.29 | GitGud | GPG error: http://ftp3.nrc.ca stretch InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?) |
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| 12:42.33 | IOhannes | so you removed the debian gpg keys? |
| 12:42.51 | IOhannes | ,v debian-archive-keyring |
| 12:42.52 | judd | Package: debian-archive-keyring on amd64 -- squeeze: 2010.08.28+squeeze1; wheezy: 2014.3~deb7u1; sid: 2014.3; jessie: 2014.3; stretch: 2014.3 |
| 12:42.56 | SynrG | For all i know those are metapackages only and your system still runs the software |
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| 12:43.14 | GitGud | well i dont recall removing anything |
| 12:43.21 | GitGud | of that sort |
| 12:43.35 | IOhannes | well, check whether it *is* installed. |
| 12:43.39 | IOhannes | re-install in any case |
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| 12:43.56 | GitGud | IOhannes, can i apt-get remove debian-archive-keyring annd then apt-get install debian-archive-keyring it? |
| 12:44.04 | SynrG | And test definitively your proxy is no longer up |
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| 12:44.24 | IOhannes | GitGud: can you try rather than ask? |
| 12:44.24 | SynrG | Me absence of metapackages is not definitive |
| 12:44.34 | SynrG | Mere* |
| 12:44.36 | GitGud | well i dont know if that will be a fatal issue or not |
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| 12:44.43 | GitGud | but ok sure |
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| 12:45.07 | GitGud | and when i attempt that it says : You are about to do something potentially harmful. |
| 12:45.07 | GitGud | To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' |
| 12:45.07 | GitGud | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.19 | GitGud | so its definitely very important to ask |
| 12:45.56 | IOhannes | ok, so don't |
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| 12:46.11 | grifftannen | hello all |
| 12:46.12 | IOhannes | how about: apt-get install --reinstall debian-archive-keyring? |
| 12:46.23 | IOhannes | or download it from packages.debian.net and dpkg it? |
| 12:46.39 | grifftannen | building a low powered NAS. Looking at openmedia vault. Anyone have exp with it before I jump in? |
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| 12:47.07 | GitGud | ah yes that sounds preferable |
| 12:47.25 | GitGud | yes i get an error |
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| 12:48.04 | GitGud | IOhannes, http://pastebin.com/3aYSpRLj |
| 12:48.06 | GitGud | that happens |
| 12:48.56 | IOhannes | for now, i would *not* use http.debian.net, but rather a specific mirror |
| 12:49.01 | amdp_ | if I installed a package with dpkg and not with apt-get, will the package be set to "manual install" ? |
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| 12:50.14 | IOhannes | amdp_: yes - since you have manually installed it |
| 12:50.22 | GitGud | well IOhannes i commented out that specific mirror and i get literally the same error but with the name of another one of my mirrors :P |
| 12:51.12 | IOhannes | so why do you not remove all of your mirrors, but a single one? |
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| 12:52.02 | GitGud | idk this shit is pissing me off to be honest |
| 12:52.28 | amdp_ | IOhannes: thanks |
| 12:52.34 | GitGud | shouldnt be that hard to get around a stupid fucking key that locks me out from updating |
| 12:52.49 | IOhannes | is petrified |
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| 12:53.10 | GitGud | no no its not your fault |
| 12:53.30 | GitGud | i removed all but one server for each one and i get the same goddamned eror |
| 12:53.32 | amdp_ | IOhannes: apt-get install --reinstall gives me: "E: Internal Error, No file name for emacsen-common" |
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| 12:54.19 | jelly | amdp_: run an "apt-get update" first, and try again, without --reinstall. |
| 12:55.19 | GitGud | IOhannes, seems to me like both are dependent on each other to run. the keyring needs update and keyring to run and the update needs to be validated by the keyring |
| 12:55.32 | GitGud | and thats locking me out of everything |
| 12:55.39 | amdp_ | jelly: it tells me it is already the newest version |
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| 12:57.34 | GitGud | is there a way to check which proxy is being used |
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| 12:57.38 | GitGud | i want to disable it |
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| 12:58.14 | ws2k3 | How should i installed support for pthreads in debian ? it seems there is no apt package available for it |
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| 12:59.58 | trewas | ws2k3: it is part of glibc, so there is no way to have debian without pthreads |
| 13:00.50 | ws2k3 | trewas my bad i was not clear. i'm trying to enable pthreads in php on debian 7 |
| 13:01.57 | jelly | amdp_: okay, you can try with --reinstall now, then |
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| 13:03.05 | ws2k3 | trewas i also tryed to install it with pecl but the packages on pecl requere php 7 |
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| 13:03.40 | amdp_ | jelly: thanks, "E: Internal Error, No file name for emacsen-common:amd64" // the package seems not to be related to amd64 but to be multiarch, is that the problem? (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/emacsen-common) |
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| 13:03.48 | Delta706 | After 5 minutes of idle, I get a blank screen but I cannot find the key combination to return to normal |
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| 13:06.18 | jelly | amdp_: huh, that's not the same error as before? |
| 13:06.59 | amdp_ | jelly: yes, I'll try downloading the package again maybe the manual install went somehow the wrong way |
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| 13:09.27 | jelly | amdp_: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
| 13:10.16 | ws2k3 | how can i enable ZTS in php 5.4 on debian 7? |
| 13:10.24 | jelly | amdp_: also, dpkg -l emacsen-common |
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| 13:11.39 | amdp_ | jelly: amd64 // downloading the .deb file and dpkg -i solved the issue :-) I have 9-10 more packages giving me similar error, do you think there's a way to find the .deb files in a jessie iso cd? |
| 13:12.25 | MACscr | when you do apt-get install vlan, why doesnt it automatically add 8021q to the modules permanently ? |
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| 13:12.56 | jelly | amdp_: show which package those are, in a pastebin |
| 13:13.32 | ws2k3 | or how can i change a compile argument when installing php5 from the debian repository |
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| 13:13.56 | jelly | MACscr: it doesn't have to. The kernel support module gets loaded automatically when you have vlan iface definitions in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:14.34 | jelly | MACscr: eg. "iface eth0.505 inet static" ... the scripts know what to do with that. |
| 13:15.02 | jelly | (assuming auto eth0.505 is also in place) |
| 13:15.07 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261231 // first two lines are important |
| 13:15.27 | MACscr | jelly: what if you use the other style of just vlan10? |
| 13:15.52 | MACscr | i swear i got the error yesterday that i didnt have it loaded |
| 13:16.16 | jelly | MACscr: this style needs least additional work ;-) |
| 13:16.32 | jelly | amdp_: where's that dpkg -l output, sorry? |
| 13:16.52 | ws2k3 | how can i enable ZTS in php 5.4 on debian 7? |
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| 13:18.11 | jelly | amdp_: also, dpkg -l dictionaries-common |
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| 13:19.24 | amdp_ | jelly: dpkg-query: no packages found matching dictionaries-common // http://pastebin.ca/3261237 |
| 13:19.32 | jelly | MACscr: since your mlx drivers do all sorts of strange things, it's possible they broke ordering for this as well |
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| 13:21.04 | MACscr | jelly: they are miserable. im definitely going to try to choose more natively supported tech next time |
| 13:21.11 | jelly | amdp_: you seem to have LOTS of partially installed packages. Run "dpkg --configure -a", show the output, don't worry if not all packages get configured properly. After that, run "apt-get -f install" and show the output too. |
| 13:21.56 | jelly | MACscr: I wonder if things would work better if you used sysvinit instead of systemd... their systemd units looked particularly broken. |
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| 13:22.59 | MACscr | jelly: im eventually going to be using proxmox on these debian systems and im not 100% sure if it plays nicely with sysvinit either. =( |
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| 13:23.28 | amdp_ | jelly: gosh http://pastebin.ca/3261242 |
| 13:24.22 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261244 |
| 13:24.28 | SirLagz | MACscr: are you using Wheezy still? |
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| 13:24.41 | jelly | amdp_: are you in the middle of a debian 7 -> debian 8 release upgrade? |
| 13:24.53 | MACscr | SirLagz: 8.2 |
| 13:25.10 | SirLagz | MACscr: ah k. |
| 13:25.32 | SirLagz | MACscr: I've installed ProxMox on one of my Jessie boxes...it's using systemd though |
| 13:25.38 | SirLagz | MACscr: what troubles are systemd giving you? |
| 13:25.47 | amdp_ | jelly: nope, I guess dpkg installed many of the packages in /var/cache/archives/ and there were old ones |
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| 13:25.52 | jelly | note that proxmox is not support here, but has their own support venues. |
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| 13:26.01 | GitGud | ok so |
| 13:26.06 | MACscr | jelly: 100% understand |
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| 13:26.44 | amdp_ | jelly: I need to find a way to update manually all of them |
| 13:26.46 | MACscr | SirLagz: nothing with it yet, my big issue is my mellanox drivers and jessie |
| 13:26.48 | jelly | amdp_: you have mysql-common from wheezy and are attempting installations from jessie sources. |
| 13:26.52 | SirLagz | MACscr: ah k |
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| 13:27.02 | Caterpillar | I cannot retrieve the name of the olsrd maintainer https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=olsrd Could you help me? Thankx |
| 13:27.05 | MACscr | systemd doesnt play nicely with it |
| 13:27.13 | abrotman | dpkg: maint olsrd |
| 13:27.14 | amdp_ | jelly: I am watching it :-( |
| 13:27.18 | MACscr | stops deletes the network service and it never even starts at boot |
| 13:27.20 | GitGud | big shout out to SynrG and IOhannes for the help so far. and i would just like to update that it was a proxy issue but its not something on my side. i think there is either a problem with the router or the ISP (yikes?). because with the current setup when i switched over to my mobile phone all the packages were updated fine. so it was a proxy issue beyond my control |
| 13:27.28 | SirLagz | MACscr: damn...well. good luck with it |
| 13:27.30 | MACscr | so i have to manually start it from console =( |
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| 13:27.34 | dpkg | olsrd: Roland Stigge <stigge@antcom.de> |
| 13:27.51 | jelly | amdp_: it's a mess... show your /etc/apt/sources.list, and "apt-cache policy" output for a start. |
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| 13:28.04 | abrotman | Caterpillar: there are two maintainers |
| 13:28.04 | Caterpillar | thx |
| 13:28.10 | abrotman | Caterpillar: https://packages.debian.org/sid/olsrd |
| 13:28.26 | abrotman | Caterpillar: https://packages.qa.debian.org/o/olsrd.html |
| 13:28.54 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261250 |
| 13:29.02 | jelly | amdp_: also, dpkg -l dpkg libc6 libc-bin apt perl perl-base netbase ifupdown |
| 13:30.01 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261252 |
| 13:30.29 | Caterpillar | abrotman: thx |
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| 13:30.48 | Caterpillar | I have to ask them if it is possible to update olsrd package |
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| 13:31.52 | jelly | amdp_: okay. Do you by any chance have /var/cache/apt/archives/perl*5.20.2*deb ? |
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| 13:32.31 | jelly | amdp_: and /var/cache/apt/archives/netbase_5.3_*deb ? |
| 13:32.56 | jelly | amdp_: if you do, install netbase from there with dpkg -i |
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| 13:33.28 | jelly | amdp_: then install perl, perl-base and perl-modules debs with a single dpkg -i command, too |
| 13:33.40 | amdp_ | jelly: i'll do |
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| 13:34.14 | jelly | shit will not work if you don't have important system components |
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| 13:35.02 | amdp_ | jelly: the systems works fine |
| 13:35.16 | jelly | no, it doesn't... |
| 13:35.30 | amdp_ | ok I'll proceed |
| 13:35.34 | jelly | if it worked fine you wouldn't be here asking questions |
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| 13:36.17 | amdp_ | sorry my feeling was that it seemed to be a problem of packages and not of functions |
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| 13:37.48 | ppparadox | Hello, i need help troubleshooting an issue with IPv6 ULA addresses |
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| 13:38.30 | amdp_ | jelly: could this be helpful? http://pastebin.ca/3261273 |
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| 13:39.00 | abrotman | ppparadox: Just ask your actual questoin |
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| 13:39.15 | jelly | amdp_: did you manage to install perl stuff and netbase? |
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| 13:40.18 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261280 |
| 13:40.48 | ppparadox | The issue is well described here, look at the last comment of the accepted answer: https://goo.gl/4FAVhp |
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| 13:41.04 | hiya | What do you use for folder encryption guys? |
| 13:41.23 | jelly | amdp_: you don't need perl-doc right now, purge it |
| 13:41.30 | amdp_ | ok |
| 13:41.32 | jelly | amdp_: dpkg -P perl-doc |
| 13:42.53 | amdp_ | dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove perl-doc which isn't installed |
| 13:42.53 | dpkg | amdp_: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 13:43.26 | amdp_ | dpkg: what output? |
| 13:43.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, output is Anything that comes out of a computer or system. As in, "Watch out for that pile of OUTPUT on the sidewalk." |
| 13:43.33 | abrotman | amdp_: please stop conversing with the bot |
| 13:44.03 | amdp_ | sorry guys |
| 13:44.19 | jelly | amdp_: that's fine. Now with perl installed, let's hope some of that iU stuff will actually configure... "dpkg --configure -a" again |
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| 13:44.42 | ewew | Maybe theres a need of topic update. Add dont talk to the bot.:)] |
| 13:45.01 | amdp_ | jelly: same output as before |
| 13:45.04 | abrotman | is getting an itchy finger .. |
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| 13:45.31 | jelly | amdp_: really, not one package configured? |
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| 13:46.36 | jelly | amdp_: dpkg --configure libregexp-common-perl libhtml-tagset-perl |
| 13:46.37 | amdp_ | jelly: nope http://pastebin.ca/3261297 |
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| 13:47.19 | amdp_ | jelly: perl packs already installed and configured |
| 13:48.00 | jelly | amdp_: so they _did_ configure, you just missed it. |
| 13:48.42 | amdp_ | jelly: I am sorry I'm just really worried |
| 13:48.53 | jelly | amdp_: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ucf_3.0030_*deb, and do a dpkg --configure -a again |
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| 13:49.38 | jelly | it's just a matter of installing a couple key packages manually so that "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get -f install" don't get too many errors |
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| 13:49.58 | amdp_ | jelly: ok |
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| 13:50.29 | Urchin | why is there no emacs24 manual on jessie if I install a regular package? |
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| 13:51.17 | jelly | ,i emacs24-common-non-dfsg |
| 13:51.18 | judd | Package emacs24-common-non-dfsg (non-free/editors, optional) in jessie/amd64: GNU Emacs common non-DFSG items, including the core documentation. Version: 24.4+1-2; Size: 4557.5k; Installed: 4684k |
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| 13:51.52 | jelly | Urchin: licensing on those does not follow Debian Free Software Guidelines. |
| 13:51.59 | amdp_ | jelly: did it, no errors, it needed debconf but I installed that as well |
| 13:52.02 | jelly | dpkg, tell Urchin about non-free sources |
| 13:52.26 | jelly | amdp_: right, repeat "dpkg --configure -a" again... |
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| 13:52.58 | amdp_ | jelly: it is working better now |
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| 13:55.46 | amdp_ | jelly: is there a way to let it go on even displaying all the error alerts? |
| 13:56.27 | jelly | nope, you need to get a consistent state for apt to work properly |
| 13:57.15 | amdp_ | ok so I keep installing those packages that are listed as not installed in the dpkg --configure -a output? |
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| 14:05.17 | jelly | amdp_: yeah |
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| 14:05.25 | amdp_ | jelly: ok |
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| 14:06.13 | jelly | "apt-get -f install" should figure those out but does not for some reason. That sometimes happens in conjunction with multiarch, but I'm not sure how to fix it |
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| 14:06.54 | jelly | amdp_: do you have multiarch enabled right now? dpkg --print-foreign-architectures |
| 14:07.22 | amdp_ | oh no that command now gives empty line |
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| 14:08.39 | jelly | ok, so you don't have it enabled |
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| 14:11.05 | amdp_ | jelly: how do I do that? |
| 14:11.34 | jelly | amdp_: do what? |
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| 14:12.08 | jelly | that wasn't an instruction, I just commented multiarch was not enabled. |
| 14:12.16 | amdp_ | jelly: should I have multiarch enabled or not? |
| 14:12.23 | amdp_ | jelly: ok :-) |
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| 14:13.43 | ppparadox | Why does net.ipv6.conf.eth0.autoconf go back to 0 after every reboot even though it is set to 1 in my sysctl.conf? |
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| 14:14.07 | Dagger | ppparadox: it's possible eth0 doesn't exist when sysctl.conf is applied |
| 14:14.20 | Dagger | and when eth0 is created, it'll take its settings from net.ipv6.conf.default.* |
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| 14:14.57 | ppparadox | net.ipv6.conf.default.autoconf=1 is the line exactly above |
| 14:15.06 | ppparadox | .all too |
| 14:15.42 | ppparadox | wait, there's a space before and after the = |
| 14:16.12 | Dagger | so when eth0 is created, it'll pick up the autoconf=1 setting from .default. |
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| 14:16.29 | Dagger | (assuming that it's created after sysctl.conf is applied) |
| 14:16.31 | jelly | ppparadox: that whitespace isn't a problem in the config file |
| 14:16.40 | amdp_ | jelly: I have all the jessie packages I need to upgrade in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory mixed with some stuff from wheezy, is there a way to delete the wheezy ones and install all the jessie packs? |
| 14:16.52 | Nectur | Hello is there a way i can use rfkill work as none root? |
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| 14:16.57 | amdp_ | jelly: like a deletion based on date |
| 14:16.58 | jelly | amdp_: you can run "apt-get autoclean" |
| 14:17.15 | jelly | amdp_: that removes all the packages that are not available from any repo any more |
| 14:17.21 | amdp_ | autoclean will skip wheezy ones and keep |
| 14:17.26 | amdp_ | jelly: great |
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| 14:17.54 | jelly | amdp_: but you don't want to dpkg -i everything, you lose information about automatically installed and manually installed packages |
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| 14:18.27 | jelly | amdp_: how much crap do you have left in "dpkg --configure -a" now? |
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| 14:18.53 | ppparadox | net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time=1800 |
| 14:18.53 | ppparadox | net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf=1 |
| 14:18.53 | ppparadox | net.ipv6.conf.default.autoconf=1 |
| 14:18.53 | ppparadox | net.ipv6.conf.eth0.autoconf=1 |
| 14:18.53 | ppparadox | rebooting now, let's see |
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| 14:19.48 | ewew | ppparadox ? |
| 14:19.50 | amdp_ | jelly: re-installing python and then I'll --configure again |
| 14:20.24 | amdp_ | jelly: are the history backups from dpkg and apt useful for "you lose information about automatically installed and manually installed packages" ? |
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| 14:20.49 | jelly | amdp_: no idea |
| 14:21.44 | ppparadox | .all and .default are 1, eth0 is 0 again!!! |
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| 14:23.15 | ppparadox | i have a secondary ipv6 eth0 stati stanza in my /etc/network/interfaces for assigning an ULA address, could be an issue? |
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| 14:24.51 | Dagger | ppparadox: ...oh, I misread your question :/ thought you were trying to set it to 0 |
| 14:25.42 | ppparadox | :D |
| 14:25.57 | Dagger | in that case my guess would be networkmanager or systemd being a pain |
| 14:26.08 | ppparadox | headless system |
| 14:26.17 | ppparadox | no X11 |
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| 14:26.30 | Dagger | may also be worth a `grep -R autoconf /etc` in case there's another script turning it off for some reason |
| 14:27.11 | ppparadox | yep there's another one but i had already corrected it to 1 |
| 14:28.07 | ppparadox | This is where it all began: https://goo.gl/4FAVhp |
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| 14:28.20 | Darkhunter | Hello guy, I just opened 30gb file in nano and whole server crashed...Is there any editor, who sends only page, which I am looking to? |
| 14:28.29 | jibe_ | No body know how to make a partial Debian reposirory from a list of packages ? |
| 14:28.36 | jibe_ | I tried debpartial-mirror, but is not working |
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| 14:34.23 | Dagger | ppparadox: ...yeah, don't use netmask 16. on-link subnets should always be /64 |
| 14:34.40 | ppparadox | not even for cosmetic purposes? |
| 14:34.52 | Dagger | you can't seriously tell me you have so little space in a /64 that you need a /16 |
| 14:35.10 | ppparadox | no it's just because i want a short address |
| 14:35.18 | Dagger | there shouldn't be any cosmetic difference, unless you like the look of "16" over "64" |
| 14:35.48 | Dagger | you can have short addresses with /64 too |
| 14:35.59 | Dagger | e.g. fd69::/64 |
| 14:36.12 | ppparadox | ok i'll fix that |
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| 14:36.32 | Dagger | (although there is an argument that maybe DNS might be useful sometimes) |
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| 14:36.46 | ppparadox | i'd agree |
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| 14:37.29 | ppparadox | so, back to conf:net.ipv6.conf.eth0.autoconf, any idea? |
| 14:37.39 | Dagger | you should also avoid assigning ::0 to a host, because that's the anycast address for "any router in the subnet" (I use ::1 for the router/machine that's running radvd) |
| 14:38.24 | ppparadox | where did i do that |
| 14:38.32 | Dagger | still no idea for that though. try `pre-up sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.eth0.autoconf=1` in /e/n/i? |
| 14:39.27 | Dagger | "address fd69::1" instead of "address fd69::6666" (well, ::6666 is fine enough, but it's longer and I find it easier to always use ::1 for the router) |
| 14:39.29 | ppparadox | good workaround... could this be a systemd issue? |
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| 14:39.39 | Dagger | so ok, you're not using ::0 anymore, but your original post did |
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| 14:40.27 | Dagger | since systemd has its claws in everything, I figure it could easily be |
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| 14:40.57 | ppparadox | sigh... i was starting to like it |
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| 14:44.46 | cplft | `apt-get install gcc` to install gcc? |
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| 14:45.04 | Dagger | it's not so bad as an init system. it's the syslog, DHCP, DNS, NTP, container, etc, etc bits that are a problem |
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| 14:46.09 | Dagger | (and I suppose there's no real hope of keeping those out of Debian, because "we voted for systemd" (even though we voted for /systemd-init/ and not the rest of the parts), and systemd's bits are too tightly integrated...) |
| 14:46.37 | ppparadox | the pre-up workaround doesn't work :( |
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| 14:46.59 | ppparadox | i think i'll post a stackexchange question |
| 14:47.44 | jelly | Dagger: dhcp, dns, ntp, container etc are not used in debian by default right now, and that's what ppparadox is using not some imagined future version of debian |
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| 14:50.17 | Dagger | jelly: I wonder how long that will last for |
| 14:50.39 | Dagger | but that at least suggests that it might not be systemd's fault |
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| 14:51.16 | jelly | just saying, if you're trying to help with a tech issue, at least know what you're dealing with instead of some imagined setup |
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| 14:55.38 | zigurat | Hello. I have an issue with clamav-freshclam init script on systemd. It throws error in syslog "sh: echo: I/O error". How can I verbose more "/bin/systemctl start clamav-freshclam.service" |
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| 14:58.03 | Brigo | zigurat, did you check logs? |
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| 14:59.06 | zigurat | That is from the logs. systemctl doesnt output anything. I don't know how to troubleshoot this |
| 14:59.16 | zigurat | ie make sysctl more verbose |
| 14:59.26 | GeHa | ddrescue on partition: source windows gives it a letter, does not know the space ammount, chkdsk says it is ntfs,but some next version information about the volume are not accessible by chkdsk and aborts. ddrescue --force /dev/sdd4 /dev/sde3 is finished 100% with 204kb error, but the destination partition is unknown for windows,this copied one does not get letter in windows. Any more ideas ? |
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| 14:59.49 | Brigo | zigurat, not systemd or sysctl, you have to tell calmav to be more verbose. |
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| 15:00.49 | Brigo | zigurat, or fi not clamav output then i would check the init.d script. I guess the problem is there (without more information) |
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| 15:02.02 | zigurat | I meant systemctl not sysctl |
| 15:02.05 | Brigo | zigurat, no there is a /lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service, so it cannot be a init.d fault. |
| 15:02.35 | Brigo | zigurat, afaik systemd don't use sh at all. |
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| 15:02.52 | Brigo | so the problem should be elsewhere. |
| 15:02.53 | zigurat | Ah |
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| 15:03.17 | Brigo | zigurat, but you can check that file, /lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service |
| 15:03.31 | Brigo | or even /lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.socket |
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| 15:03.58 | Brigo | these were the only clamav systemd configuration file. |
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| 15:04.22 | Brigo | I cannot check them because i haven't clamav installed. |
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| 15:04.38 | zigurat | Brigo, I start the daemon from the init script. there is no native implementation for systemd at this point |
| 15:04.51 | ppparadox | net.ipv6.conf.eth0.autoconf question asked here: https://goo.gl/mmy8Em |
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| 15:06.54 | zigurat | The init script runs "/bin/systemctl start clamav-freshclam.service" (from sourcing /lib/lsb/init-functions.d/40-systemd ) |
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| 15:08.58 | Brigo | zigurat, is /usr/bin/freshclam a binary or a script? |
| 15:09.22 | zigurat | Binary |
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| 15:09.57 | Brigo | zigurat, are you using jessie? |
| 15:10.04 | zigurat | Testing |
| 15:10.50 | Brigo | fyi, problems with testing and sid go to #debian-next channel, in OFTC network :) |
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| 15:19.53 | ppparadox | Don't wanna sound pretentious but... could someone please upvote my stackexchange question? ---> https://goo.gl/mmy8Em |
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| 15:20.29 | Nectur | How can i make a program executable by as user instead as root? |
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| 15:22.26 | Brigo | ppparadox, what about net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf ? |
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| 15:23.58 | amdp_ | jelly: what does this mean? will it be fixed? http://pastebin.ca/3261448 |
| 15:24.22 | Nectur | i tried chmod u+s /usr/sbin/rfkill |
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| 15:24.34 | Nectur | it still only executes with sudo |
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| 15:25.34 | jelly | amdp_: show "ls -l /usr/bin/config_data*" and "dpkg -S /usr/bin/config_data*" |
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| 15:26.41 | jelly | amdp_: and dpkg -l perl libmodule-build-perl |
| 15:26.44 | amdp_ | http://pastebin.ca/3261453 |
| 15:26.51 | amdp_ | jelly: ^ |
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| 15:27.37 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261459 |
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| 15:27.58 | jelly | amdp_: okay, that's the version from "perl" package. You may delete /usr/bin/config_data.diverted and run the command that failed, again |
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| 15:28.51 | chele | Nectur: several things can be done. What program? |
| 15:28.57 | jelly | amdp_: did you have a power loss situation or something? it seems your package manager database has lost some information (package diversions info) |
| 15:29.13 | Nectur | chele: rfkill |
| 15:29.33 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261460 // no power loss afaik |
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| 15:30.05 | TheWarden | Hi |
| 15:30.32 | TheWarden | I have this working at the command prompt echo $(tty) | sed -r 's/\/dev\///g' |
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| 15:30.52 | chele | Nectur: why don't you want to use sudo? |
| 15:31.00 | TheWarden | How do I do that same but put it into a variable in a bash script, $(tty) | sed -r 's/\/dev\///g' ? |
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| 15:31.30 | Nectur | rfkill needs to be executed with a script which is connected to a hotkey |
| 15:31.43 | Nectur | or atleast thats what i'm trying |
| 15:32.24 | amdp_ | jelly: is there a way to avoid the diversion halt? |
| 15:32.28 | chele | Nectur: you can call sudo from the script as well, as long as runs as your user which is in sudoers. |
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| 15:32.43 | chele | or an user which is in sudoers |
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| 15:33.18 | chele | Nectur: otherwise you could change ownership of that tool but I think you are not supposed to use it that way. |
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| 15:33.33 | Nectur | but wouldn't i need to add the password in plain text? |
| 15:33.50 | amdp_ | jelly: seems it's just a man pages gz file, No diversion 'diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/config_data.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/config_data.diverted.1.gz by libmodule-build-perl' |
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| 15:34.34 | chele | Nectur: you can configure sudoers to be passwordless for your purpose. |
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| 15:34.48 | sewfad | hello guys |
| 15:34.50 | sewfad | GUYS |
| 15:34.59 | sewfad | i want someone to play with |
| 15:35.13 | jelly | amdp_: delete /usr/share/man/man1/config_data.diverted.1.gz as well |
| 15:35.34 | sewfad | yes, i know |
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| 15:35.56 | sewfad | also delete /usr/share/man/man1/config_data.diverted.11111111!!!11ONE.gz |
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| 15:36.19 | MACscr | why are all of my debian servers automatically getting incoming udp requests on port 123? i dont see this as much on my older centos boxes. I am doing a request to my public ntp server, but i shouldnt be receiving any requests back |
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| 15:36.32 | Nectur | chele: sudoers(5) file: username ALL = NOPASSWD:? |
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| 15:37.02 | Nectur | i still make to many mistakes to trust myself with that much power |
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| 15:37.59 | chele | Nectur: You can give yourself permissions per app as well. Hold on. |
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| 15:39.01 | chele | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:41.35 | Nectur | oh that might work |
| 15:41.45 | Nectur | testing |
| 15:41.48 | jelly | MACscr: udp requests from where? |
| 15:42.18 | jelly | if you're talking to public ntp servers from pool.ntp.org, they will talk back. |
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| 15:43.41 | undead_rattler | I have a startup script that's installing software as part of a preseed - one part of the tasksel/apt-get install -qq -y 'packages' asks for a keyboard layout, stopping the script from finishing since it's all running in the background. Any way to just accept the defaults for questions like those? |
| 15:45.04 | MACscr | jelly: why do they talk back? |
| 15:45.16 | MACscr | whats the point. they are public ones |
| 15:45.18 | jelly | really? |
| 15:45.34 | undead_rattler | jelly: oh hey, forgot you hung out in here too. |
| 15:46.08 | MACscr | here is the example though http://pastie.org/pastes/10567633/text?key=obra7khusa2zdqgi4dpka |
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| 15:46.49 | Nectur | chele: can i add an extra line(2 lines for the same user or does it have to be on a single line? |
| 15:47.12 | sdfgdgd | 123 its ntp, maybe someone its scanning to use your server as reflection server |
| 15:47.20 | chele | Nectur you can add multiple lines. |
| 15:47.45 | Nectur | for one user? |
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| 15:48.13 | chele | Nectur I think you can also add several apps separated by spaces in the same line but you gotta test that. |
| 15:48.25 | chele | Nectur yes why not. |
| 15:48.45 | Nectur | i dunno how it's parsed |
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| 15:49.14 | jelly | MACscr: that's what ntp is for, sync'ing time. You're probably getting ntp protocol time sync info from the configured servers. |
| 15:49.22 | chele | Well trial and error or man. I am not advanced in this matter either. |
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| 15:50.34 | alias__ | Anyone familiar with canonical landscape? |
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| 15:50.57 | alias__ | specifically in patch management for debian? |
| 15:51.14 | jelly | undead_rattler: hi! Welcome to Debian's support channel. Have an excellent day. |
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| 15:52.34 | Nectur | chele: would i need to relog for it to take effect? |
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| 15:54.14 | chele | I guess not, but unsure. |
| 15:55.01 | Nectur | still get command not found |
| 15:56.21 | chele | Nectur you still gotta call it using sudo but should not ask you for pass. |
| 15:56.43 | chele | Unless you got the location into your $PATH. |
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| 16:01.29 | abrotman | chele: we've had number of people have some varying issues with it over the years. I know some prefer it, but just a general recommendation when folks have trouble with the livecd route. |
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| 16:01.55 | RudeViper | 4uvi |
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| 16:02.34 | chele | abrotman I see, thanks. |
| 16:02.52 | chele | abrotman Random issues? |
| 16:03.09 | abrotman | chele: Given users, probably :) |
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| 16:10.20 | amdp_ | jelly: how about this? http://pastebin.ca/3261511 |
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| 16:16.02 | cplft | 'apt-get install build-essential' will install gcc? |
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| 16:20.05 | LtL | cplft: yes it will |
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| 16:25.36 | jelly | amdp_: libstdc++ is not a legit package name, write the full name |
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| 16:29.21 | amdp_ | jelly: alright, now: http://pastebin.ca/3261533 and I have some divert problems now and then |
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| 16:30.05 | jelly | amdp_: well that's good. Try to "apt-get -f install" again |
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| 16:30.56 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261535 |
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| 16:32.47 | greycat | amdp_: for whatever it's worth, a normal jessie install has systemd-sysv not systemd-shim |
| 16:32.57 | jelly | amdp_: that doesn't look really safe. Which init system are you using right now? readlink -f $(cat /proc/1/cmdline); cat /proc/1/comm |
| 16:33.19 | jelly | getting udev removed doesn't look safe for either systemd or sysvinit |
| 16:33.51 | amdp_ | jelly: /lib/systemd/systemd |
| 16:34.21 | greycat | jelly: well, that's just the autoremove clause. I never EVER use autoremove. *shudder* |
| 16:34.23 | jelly | amdp_: right. So do "apt-get install systemd-sysv" instead. |
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| 16:35.13 | greycat | autoremove is never going to be right if you compile anything locally. |
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| 16:35.45 | jelly | sure it will, as long as you package the locally compiled stuff |
| 16:35.49 | jelly | hides |
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| 16:36.25 | amdp_ | jelly: alright // http://pastebin.ca/3261546 |
| 16:37.30 | jelly | amdp_: seems fine |
| 16:37.49 | jelly | in fact you could probably let autoremove do its thing |
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| 16:38.13 | jelly | amdp_: nothing more in "dpkg --configure -a" ? |
| 16:38.22 | amdp_ | a lot still |
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| 16:38.42 | jelly | show its output again, then |
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| 16:40.44 | Tom01 | Hello people! |
| 16:40.49 | amdp_ | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/3261554 // if I try to install apt-get install udisks (the first line in the paste) it installs fine |
| 16:41.36 | Tom01 | What protocoll is Personal File Sharing and Media Sharing using? I want a Connection to my OS X Machine. |
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| 16:42.16 | jwd_ | Tom1: can you use ssh to connect to the server? |
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| 16:42.29 | jwd_ | err Tom01 i mean |
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| 16:42.55 | jelly | amdp_: okay. Can you do "apt-get install shared-mime-info openssl po-debconf" |
| 16:43.01 | Tom01 | jwd_: I have an ssh and a vnc connection. |
| 16:43.20 | distortedvoice | Tom01, You could use cifs for file transfers. |
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| 16:43.32 | Tom01 | How? |
| 16:43.43 | jwd_ | an easy solution to mount folders on a debian (or other box) to your mac could be to mount them as a sshfs with macfusion |
| 16:43.47 | amdp_ | jelly: I have a circular dependency with libdevmapper and dmsetup |
| 16:43.52 | amdp_ | jelly: did it |
| 16:44.04 | jelly | amdp_: see what configures now |
| 16:44.07 | zwall | irssi ; zsh |
| 16:44.18 | distortedvoice | Tom01, https://wiki.debian.org/SambaServerSimple |
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| 16:44.25 | amdp_ | jelly: no news |
| 16:44.29 | Tom01 | thx |
| 16:44.49 | jwd_ | i personaly prefere a ssh connection over opening more ports |
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| 16:44.53 | amdp_ | jelly: udisk fine, libdevmapper on top now |
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| 16:45.35 | jelly | hah, Package base-files is not installed. |
| 16:46.08 | distortedvoice | jwd_, sftp works well I agree |
| 16:46.13 | jelly | amdp_: apt-get install base-files systemd-sysv |
| 16:47.29 | jelly | amdp_: going away now, I'll be back online in an hour or two |
| 16:47.33 | amdp_ | jelly: liblvm2app2 on top |
| 16:47.42 | amdp_ | jelly ok thanks a lot so far |
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| 16:53.07 | pgunnars | okeyyy |
| 16:53.19 | pgunnars | so i think i may have nuked one of our local servers, any1 care to help me be4 someone finds out? |
| 16:54.39 | abrotman | help you what? |
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| 16:57.10 | pgunnars | accidentally updated libc6 to a version not for my distro |
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| 16:57.21 | pgunnars | and it basically removed everything |
| 16:57.40 | pgunnars | and nothing has any apt candidates |
| 16:57.55 | pgunnars | g++/build-essentials/etc |
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| 16:58.38 | pgunnars | i have a list of what was removed |
| 16:58.42 | pgunnars | but I can't install it |
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| 16:58.45 | pgunnars | at least not automatically |
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| 17:00.11 | abrotman | pgunnars: What OS is this? And you should probably tell your boss |
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| 17:00.42 | pgunnars | yeah obv first thing i did, was a joke |
| 17:00.49 | pgunnars | sysad out of building |
| 17:00.53 | pgunnars | nothing srs |
| 17:00.55 | abrotman | you didn't answer the question ... |
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| 17:01.20 | pgunnars | 7.8 |
| 17:01.25 | pgunnars | wheezy |
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| 17:01.42 | abrotman | you'll probably have to install dependencies manually, and update the database manually |
| 17:01.48 | abrotman | do you have any tools like dpkg that still work? |
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| 17:02.08 | freakyy | how do i find out in human readable format, how much space a directory takes? |
| 17:02.16 | greycat | freakyy: du -sh dir |
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| 17:02.38 | pgunnars | dpkg seems to work |
| 17:02.38 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, pgunnars |
| 17:02.52 | freakyy | k thanks |
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| 17:04.02 | abrotman | pgunnars: so I guess yo uuse that |
| 17:05.13 | greycat | pgunnars: what libc6 package/version did you update to? |
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| 17:05.39 | pgunnars | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.00 | pgunnars | downgraded again tho |
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| 17:06.10 | abrotman | judd: versions libc6 |
| 17:06.11 | judd | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-security-lts: 2.11.3-4+deb6u7; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u8; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u8; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u1; stretch: 2.19-22; sid: 2.19-22; experimental: 2.21-0experimental2 |
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| 17:07.32 | greycat | I wonder what "basically removed everything" actually means. DID it in fact remove packages? |
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| 17:08.16 | pgunnars | apt-cache policy build-essential build-essential: Installed: (none) |
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| 17:09.24 | abrotman | that's not required for working |
| 17:09.33 | greycat | depends on your work |
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| 17:09.58 | pgunnars | well |
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| 17:10.08 | pgunnars | it went from having postgres running and multiple services using it to not being installed |
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| 17:10.24 | greycat | Anyway, next time you do something less than ideal and apt says "Hey, in order to do that, I have to remove these 250 packages... you sure?", don't say yes. |
| 17:10.33 | pgunnars | orly |
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| 17:14.23 | asarch | I do: mpg123 foo.mp3 and I don't hear anything and with Totem it sounds great |
| 17:14.40 | asarch | How can I play it from CLI? Is there any sound wrapper for it? |
| 17:14.56 | ompaul | asarch: you are in the directory where foo resides? |
| 17:15.04 | asarch | Of course! |
| 17:15.29 | ompaul | asarch: maybe of course for you, but not always for everyone. |
| 17:15.43 | ghormoon | How long does it take package to get to backports? I found it needs 10 days from unstable to testing and to stable you need to wait for new release (looong :)), but when they get to stable backports? |
| 17:15.47 | asarch | Sure! BTW, I am using GNOME |
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| 17:15.59 | greycat | backports are not automated |
| 17:16.00 | ompaul | asarch: what is the output on the cli |
| 17:16.59 | amdp_ | is it possible that I have jessie with mysql 5.6? |
| 17:17.02 | asarch | Take a look: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/501679 |
| 17:17.09 | greycat | ,v mysql-server |
| 17:17.11 | judd | Package: mysql-server on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security-lts: 5.1.73-1+deb6u1; wheezy: 5.5.44-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.44-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.46-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.46-0+deb7u1; jessie-security: 5.5.46-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.46-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.27-2; stretch: 5.6.27-2 |
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| 17:17.28 | ompaul | asarch: you should use paste.debian.net |
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| 17:17.40 | asarch | Oh, sorry. I will from now on |
| 17:17.54 | greycat | amdp_: looks like you'd have to build it yourself |
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| 17:18.02 | distortedvoice | haha I like the 12 line paste |
| 17:18.30 | ompaul | asarch: have you installed alsamixer and checked the volume is up on all channels? |
| 17:18.35 | jhutchins | asarch: Does aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav work? |
| 17:18.38 | ghormoon | So some packages get never backported? Its maintainers decision or how? |
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| 17:18.52 | greycat | Yes. They are done by hand, when someone feels like it. |
| 17:18.56 | jhutchins | ghormoon: Most packages are not backported. |
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| 17:19.17 | jhutchins | ghormoon: There has to be some compelling reason, not just a newer version. |
| 17:19.30 | asarch | aplay works fine but I can't hear anything |
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| 17:19.33 | amdp_ | greycat: what do you -mean? |
| 17:19.53 | asarch | alsamixer was installed by default by the installation process |
| 17:19.55 | ompaul | asarch: external v olume control |
| 17:19.56 | greycat | amdp_: There is no jessie-backports package listed, so you would have to do your own backport, or your own local installation. |
| 17:20.06 | jhutchins | asarch: That doesn't parse. If you don't hear anything, that's hardly working fine. What if you run it as root? |
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| 17:20.08 | ghormoon | jhutchins: i want a feature that will get it soe future qemu version, so i either keep it patching manually or wait for backport |
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| 17:20.41 | asarch | It works!!! |
| 17:20.59 | asarch | Maybe the sound group... |
| 17:21.08 | jhutchins | asarch: audio group |
| 17:21.29 | jhutchins | asarch: You need to log out and log back in for the new group to take effect. |
| 17:21.35 | asarch | Yeah |
| 17:21.37 | asarch | Thank you |
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| 17:21.43 | asarch | Thank you very very much :-) |
| 17:21.46 | asarch | Thank you |
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| 17:23.46 | finetundra2235 | hey folks, how would I start an xsession over ssh on a windows client? |
| 17:24.09 | amdp_ | greycat: found the package thanks :-) |
| 17:25.55 | hopthrisC | is there a way to find out _why_ apt-get wants to install packages on dist-upgrade? |
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| 17:28.31 | r0xtedy | Helo |
| 17:28.44 | r0xtedy | is there anything special integrating owncloud menu's into nautilus on jessie? |
| 17:28.47 | r0xtedy | huh? |
| 17:28.52 | r0xtedy | ehhm.. |
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| 17:42.26 | matelang | i just installed debian 8.2 and proceeded to install mate. I share my computer with 2 other users. Each user has its own account. The default language environment is Spanish but i want to change my *own* language session to English. That is, i want to use mate in English. The other two users will continue to use Spanish. How can i achieve that? |
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| 17:43.44 | greycat | Put something like export LANG=en_US.utf8 in whichever dot file is appropriate for your login method. |
| 17:45.02 | amdp_ | how do I rsync -chavP --stats -e "ssh" xx@XX.xx/ /mydir/ with root permissions? |
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| 17:45.18 | ompaul | export lang=en_uk.utf8 is also LANG=en_IE.utf8 |
| 17:45.36 | ompaul | there being more than one version of english ;-) |
| 17:45.48 | n0arch | amdp_: `sudo` |
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| 17:46.15 | amdp_ | n0arch: i need that on remote folder |
| 17:46.34 | hopthrisC | amdp_: xx@ is the remote user |
| 17:46.37 | n0arch | -e 'ssh' root@ip |
| 17:46.39 | matelang | greycat, what is the actaul file that i have to edit? |
| 17:46.46 | greycat | amdp_: I don't understand what you mean by xx@XX.xx/ because putting a / on a hostname is weird |
| 17:46.57 | greycat | matelang: How do you log in? How do you start X? |
| 17:47.47 | matelang | greycat, lightdm is what me and all users use to login |
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| 17:48.38 | amdp_ | greycat thanks: rsync -chavP --stats -e "ssh" root@XX.xx:/ /mydir/ but root password is disabled |
| 17:48.50 | amdp_ | how do I sudo that? |
| 17:49.06 | greycat | amdp_: login, sudo, edit sshd_config, restart ssh, log out... would be one way. |
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| 17:49.32 | amdp_ | greycat: ok |
| 17:49.34 | hopthrisC | amdp_: better use a pubkey |
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| 17:50.26 | greycat | matelang: google says that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735251 says that there is a ~/.dmrc option, apparently. |
| 17:50.28 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/735251 in lightdm (open): «lightdm: user locale tweaks are clobbered by non-default locale»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-01-14; last modified: 2015-07-19. |
| 17:50.29 | amdp_ | hopthrisC: what do you mean? |
| 17:50.50 | hopthrisC | amdp_: if there's "PermitRootLogin without-password" in the sshd_config, you can login with an ssh-key instead of a password |
| 17:51.12 | amdp_ | hopthrisC: ok nice |
| 17:51.18 | pgunnars | how can i make apt select a candiate out of the available packages? |
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| 17:51.50 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: what do you mean? |
| 17:52.22 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: all the packages i just accidentally deleted have available versions, apt just doesn't select any of them as canditates |
| 17:52.31 | pgunnars | so i need to apt-get install x=...version... |
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| 17:53.02 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: are there pins active? |
| 17:53.04 | greycat | Wow, these DMs are just unfuckingbelieveable. WHY is the only documentation of how to configure one of them buried in a fucking bug report? |
| 17:53.06 | P4 | hello everyone. could you be so kind and save me more in-depth searching (because i cannot find it easily) by giving a hint on how can i see details or description of a virtual package with apt? e.g. something suggested me to install f-spot but apt-cache show f-spot returns that can't select versions from package 'f-spot' as it is purely virtual. :( |
| 17:53.15 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: not even sure what that means |
| 17:53.16 | greycat | http://wiki.debian.org/LightDM = useless, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM = useless |
| 17:53.45 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: is there something in /etc/apt/preferences or preferences.d? |
| 17:54.04 | P4 | greycat, i believe it is also hidden in the sourcecode if you speak that language ;) |
| 17:54.10 | pgunnars | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.12 | greycat | Every google result (except bugs.d.o) tells me how to do shit as root. I don't bloody CARE how to configure the thing as root. I want to know where the dot files are that a USER can edit. |
| 17:54.27 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: yes, guessing not active though, do i source it? |
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| 17:54.35 | greycat | Do they not expect users to customize anything? |
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| 17:54.47 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: "guessing"? |
| 17:54.55 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: and what do you mean with "source"? |
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| 17:55.19 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: well guessing since its not working, there is pinning with wheezy as priority |
| 17:55.35 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: but no packages have version selected as canditate |
| 17:55.39 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: they are probably the _reason_ it's not working |
| 17:55.46 | pgunnars | oh |
| 17:55.58 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: who put them there and why? |
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| 17:56.15 | pgunnars | uhhh |
| 17:56.20 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: no idea |
| 17:56.26 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: do you have more than one release in your sources list? |
| 17:56.33 | pgunnars | yes |
| 17:56.42 | hopthrisC | which ones? |
| 17:56.44 | pgunnars | well i did be4 i just removed it |
| 17:57.07 | hopthrisC | so, no |
| 17:57.55 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: do you have a mixed system now? |
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| 17:58.13 | pgunnars | hopthrisC: Probably? I don't know, how would I find out. |
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| 17:58.47 | Delf | Do Debian support multiseat? |
| 17:59.07 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: if you now have only one release in sources, aptitude search ~o could give you a clue |
| 17:59.19 | hopthrisC | pgunnars: don't forget to apt-get update |
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| 18:08.09 | azswa | hi, got an integrated graphics controller. Trying to change the accel method on Xorg, could you help? |
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| 18:12.34 | wallbroken | how to install enlightenment on debian? |
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| 18:17.26 | matelang | greycat, i will edit my .dmrc and report back in about 5 min. thanks |
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| 18:18.23 | abrotman | wallbroken: it's already packaged |
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| 18:19.37 | wallbroken | abrotman, the name of the package? |
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| 18:32.27 | amdp_ | greycat: is this package safe to be installed by dpkg? : linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64_3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6_amd64.deb |
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| 18:34.10 | greycat | amdp_: yes, kernel images are very safe to install, because you can have lots of them. |
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| 18:34.22 | azswa | cd /usr/ |
| 18:34.22 | amdp_ | greycat: thanks |
| 18:34.22 | azswa | ls |
| 18:34.47 | azswa | (ignore) |
| 18:34.54 | matelang | greycat, i edited my .dmrc, rebooted, proceeded to login and my editing my .drmrc did not solve the problem. moreover, after login the contents of my .dmrc automatically reverted to what is was before i edited it! |
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| 18:35.10 | greycat | matelang: then you'll have to find someone who knows how lightdm works. |
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| 18:35.42 | matelang | my edited .dmrc : http://hastebin.com/hofejacewi.ini |
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| 18:37.02 | Mmike | Hi, lads. What would be the best way to have debsign invoke gnupg so that it doesn't pop up that fancy qt/gtk window for passhprase? I 'circumvented' that by adding DEBSIGN_PROGRAM="gpg --no-use-agent" into ~/.devscripts, but I'm not sure if that is the proper way. |
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| 18:38.25 | greycat | finds a lightdm(1) man page and it's basically empty |
| 18:38.40 | greycat | DESCRIPTION lightdm is a display manager. |
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| 18:41.26 | greycat | This is seriously depressing and anti-unix. How the fuck do people get away with writing software that can't be configured by editing a file, and has no documentation.... |
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| 18:42.14 | matelang | greycat, i hope to find a solution |
| 18:42.22 | dreamer | /kick matelang |
| 18:42.31 | dreamer | oh sorry |
| 18:42.37 | dreamer | I had a highlight ;) |
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| 18:43.31 | matelang | will be back in a few minutes |
| 18:43.37 | abrotman | wallbroken: apt-cache search enlightenment |
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| 18:44.28 | abrotman | judd: versions e17 |
| 18:44.29 | judd | Package: e17 on amd64 -- sid: 0.17.6-1; stretch: 0.17.6-1; jessie: 0.17.6-1 |
| 18:44.31 | abrotman | wallbroken: ^^ |
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| 18:57.44 | alxy | Hello, Im trying to install libjpeg8 on debian jessie, but it appears this binary /package is entirely gone. I tried to install its replacment lib (libjpeg62-turbo something...), but still get an error complaining that libjpeg8 is not found |
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| 18:58.12 | alxy | The exact output is: bin/wkhtmltopdf-amd64: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 19:44.08 | Ripmind | What can i use in debian instead of fdisk? fdisk is not available for me |
| 19:44.27 | Ripmind | nvm, forgot to use sudo |
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| 19:48.01 | AngeFede | Ripmind, cfdisk ? |
| 19:48.06 | AngeFede | gparted ? |
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| 19:54.18 | Ripmind | AngeFede, just needed some informations of the disk and i was used to fdisk so it was the fastest way :) |
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| 19:55.00 | AngeFede | lsblk doen't work ? |
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| 19:55.45 | AimHere | Maybe 'sudo fdisk' is faster than finding out about the existence of lsblk |
| 19:56.04 | acidchild | how do i install a package (nginx) without initiating a 'start' after installation? |
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| 19:57.03 | AngeFede | AimHere, sure, but lsblk does not need to be root to be used |
| 19:57.10 | AngeFede | even sudoed |
| 19:57.16 | AngeFede | it works being a normal user |
| 19:57.20 | AimHere | Righto |
| 19:57.44 | AngeFede | (sorry if my english is not correct, I'm not native of an english country) |
| 19:58.04 | AimHere | Yeah, it's a command worth using, if you know about it |
| 19:58.35 | AimHere | It's just that there are >2000 commands in /usr/bin and your average Debian user can't realistically be expected to know them all |
| 19:58.44 | AngeFede | sure |
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| 19:59.07 | greycat | just over 1000 on mine... we may have largely different sets of packages installed |
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| 19:59.10 | AngeFede | in fact I spent time exploring commands of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin |
| 19:59.18 | AngeFede | just fort the fun |
| 19:59.21 | AngeFede | -t |
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| 20:03.20 | jhutchins | : The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
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| 20:03.43 | jhutchins | lots of cli stuff there. |
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| 20:06.31 | AngeFede | :p |
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| 20:13.44 | ewew | Can someone tell my what is this ext3grep: init_directories.cc:534: void init_directories(): Assertion `lost_plus_found_directory_iter != all_directories.end()' failed. |
| 20:13.44 | ewew | Thank you |
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| 20:15.34 | jhutchins | ewew: Context? |
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| 20:16.29 | ewew | I need to recover files from /var. Just whacked it with rm -r /var. ext3grep is giving this error. |
| 20:16.42 | greycat | restore backup |
| 20:16.52 | abrotman | !pal greycat |
| 20:16.52 | dpkg | points at greycat and laughs |
| 20:17.03 | ewew | Cant be done. |
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| 20:18.25 | Harm133 | Hey, I´m running 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5 on a VM and I get these messages in my dmesg from time to time. Any ideas ? : http://paste.debian.net/hidden/26a0872d/ |
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| 20:21.06 | SynrG | Harm133: looks like it iterates across all possible filesystem types, whatever it is |
| 20:21.10 | azswa | Do you have any recommendation for a good chat app (to use GTalk) that integrates well within gnome3? |
| 20:21.34 | SynrG | And the errors are all about not finding them, which is likely OK |
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| 20:22.45 | Harm133 | SynrG: You´d expect those commands to be ran at boot tho right ? These ran after 10 days of uptime. Didn´t mention that, sorry |
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| 20:23.12 | SynrG | Look with dmesg -T for realtime stamps |
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| 20:23.41 | SynrG | Correlate with other logs activity around the same time |
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| 20:24.34 | SynrG | Or with known operator initiated activity around the same time |
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| 20:25.24 | Harm133 | Hmm I got this output from both dmesg and /var/log/kern.log. I´m looking at the /var/log/messages now, but I see some more information |
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| 20:25.32 | Harm133 | Let me paste that |
| 20:26.18 | Harm133 | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a6d44d12/ |
| 20:27.03 | SynrG | Easy. It's grub |
| 20:27.24 | SynrG | Triggered by package upgrades probably |
| 20:27.44 | SynrG | Grub has an os-prober trigger |
| 20:27.59 | SynrG | And that does roll call on all devices |
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| 20:28.31 | SynrG | Completely normal and expected |
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| 20:28.46 | Harm133 | Hmm, looking at dpkg.log that´d mean prober has about 8 minutes of delay, but it would be an explaination |
| 20:28.47 | abrotman | azswa: pidgin? Empathy? |
| 20:29.20 | SynrG | Triggers are delayed to the end of the upgrade deliberately |
| 20:29.41 | SynrG | In case multiple packages call the same trigger. Prevents redundant work |
| 20:30.25 | SynrG | Check the end of dpkg timestamps for a given upgrade |
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| 20:31.08 | SynrG | Specifically it's update-grub |
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| 20:31.22 | SynrG | You can call this manually to reproduce the issue |
| 20:31.53 | Harm133 | I´ll call that now, lets see |
| 20:32.21 | Harm133 | You´re very correct :) Thank you very much. |
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| 20:45.50 | ewew | Does anyone know a recovery tool that will recover files from ext3 fs ? |
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| 20:48.24 | Ripmind | So... does anyone know how i can open up a GUI to configure my wacom tablet? |
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| 20:51.25 | azswa | abrotman> was using empathy when was using ubuntu. The main issue with it on gdm3 on debian 8 is that empathy is using the bottom bar. |
| 20:52.26 | abrotman | azswa: Hrm, they might all do that. But there might be a plugin if you check the gnome extensions website |
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| 20:53.54 | abrotman | azswa: like this: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/258/notifications-alert-on-user-menu/ (I haven't tested this) |
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| 21:01.29 | waressearcher2 | https://nmap.org/7 |
| 21:01.36 | abrotman | no? |
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| 21:03.03 | waressearcher2 | is nmap 7.00 allready in debian's repo ? when it will appear ? I know there is delay for new software to be included in stable debian |
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| 21:03.31 | greycat | ,v nmap |
| 21:03.33 | judd | Package: nmap on amd64 -- squeeze: 5.00-3; wheezy: 6.00-0.3+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 6.40-0.1~bpo70+1; jessie: 6.47-3+b1; stretch: 6.47-7+b1; sid: 6.47-7+b1 |
| 21:04.13 | greycat | If there isn't already, you can file a wishlist bug for the new version to be packaged. |
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| 21:12.49 | ewew | Did someone here used ext3grep recently ? |
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| 21:16.34 | waressearcher2 | ewew: is ext3grep a tool that searches in ext3 filesytem like similar tools netgrep for networking or grep for text ? |
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| 21:17.06 | ewew | its for recovery of fs. i need to recover /var structure. |
| 21:18.15 | greycat | 15:16 ewew> I need to recover files from /var. Just whacked it with rm -r /var. |
| 21:18.26 | ke4nhw | Currently running through the Debian 8 install, first time using Debian. I've always been a RedHat-based person (Fedora, CentOS). How different is Debian from these, and does the Debian 8 install have a non-X option, to run it strictly as a server to be managed through ssh? |
| 21:18.37 | abrotman | ewew: what have you done since you made your mistake? |
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| 21:19.21 | ewew | ro the /var fs, testdisk image and tried to recover files with ext3grep but it fails. now trying to compile ext3grep from sources. |
| 21:19.37 | abrotman | so, you remounted it, and flushed all buffers? |
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| 21:20.01 | ewew | probably yes. |
| 21:20.27 | waressearcher2 | is it even possible to restore files inlinux ? |
| 21:20.36 | ewew | thy error displays when attempting recovery ext3grep: init_directories.cc:534: void init_directories(): Assertion `lost_plus_found_directory_iter != all_directories.end()' failed. |
| 21:21.12 | ewew | fortunatly i have a working vm. so i can install sw. |
| 21:21.16 | greycat | opens a tab. Types "g recover files linux ext4". |
| 21:21.25 | ewew | no ext3 |
| 21:21.32 | greycat | first link: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ Second link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41601/is-there-any-recovery-software-available-for-ext4 |
| 21:21.35 | ewew | i have ext3fs |
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| 21:21.42 | PadawanLearner | laugs |
| 21:22.17 | ke4nhw | Any insights on my request? |
| 21:22.22 | greycat | Thus ends the lesson in googling. |
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| 21:22.42 | PadawanLearner | actually it is not funny, loosing data is never funny |
| 21:22.47 | abrotman | losing |
| 21:22.47 | greycat | ke4nhw: yes, you can install without X. I do it all the time. |
| 21:23.20 | ewew | or copy directory structure from debootstrap ? |
| 21:23.26 | waressearcher2 | greycat: is your "g" is like script for: "lynx http://www.google.com/search?q=${1}" ? |
| 21:23.31 | ke4nhw | I have been googling, and not finding answers to my specific questions. Thanks, and I just reached that point in the install, unchecked Debian desktop environment. I'll install ltsp afterwards |
| 21:23.38 | abrotman | ewew: did you lose any data you care about? can you easily reinstall? |
| 21:23.47 | abrotman | wtf types a command to remove /var/ anyway .. |
| 21:23.54 | greycat | waressearcher2: It's a single-letter keyword for a search in Iceweasel, which I have mapped to google. |
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| 21:24.33 | waressearcher2 | greycat: you said: "opens a tab" I thought it in konsole or other terminal |
| 21:24.45 | greycat | A tab in iceweasel. |
| 21:24.49 | ewew | i was working on other linux root and by mistake typed rm -r /var. I intended to write rm -r /mnt/var.:-D |
| 21:24.57 | greycat | I don't use tabbed terminals. |
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| 21:25.04 | abrotman | yeah .. common mistake, missing an entire parent directory |
| 21:25.17 | abrotman | dpkg: beer me |
| 21:25.18 | dpkg | pulls out an excellent Bornem Tripple for abrotman |
| 21:25.52 | waressearcher2 | its like "rrm -r /mnt" that can also remove all files on partitions that are remote mounted, like samba or nfs |
| 21:26.09 | waressearcher2 | when you only want remove on local partitions |
| 21:26.10 | ewew | well i can try new version of it. but i dont have hope it will work. |
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| 21:27.21 | waressearcher2 | greycat: nad simble answer "yes" or "now" would suffice |
| 21:27.38 | greycat | waressearcher2: you didn't ask a yes-or-now question. |
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| 21:27.45 | waressearcher2 | greycat: I didn't asked "what software I can use" I asked if "its possible" |
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| 21:28.19 | waressearcher2 | greycat: so you using iceweasel ? why not firefox or chrome ? |
| 21:28.38 | greycat | I use both iceweasel and chrome. |
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| 21:37.53 | vmrod | hi team , I have a question regarding the config flags you are ussing for apache (httpd) pkg |
| 21:38.25 | vmrod | does anyone knows why did debain chose that falgs or the patch debian/patches/suexec-custom.patch |
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| 21:41.24 | srg0 | How is LUKS support on an SSD? I've read some very varying things about it and I'm tempted to just get a HDD instead |
| 21:42.51 | cherubino | Does Debian release a distro version with the kernel ready to run the Xen virtual machine manager? |
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| 21:46.37 | Brigo | cherubino, i think so. |
| 21:47.07 | cherubino | how do i find it? |
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| 21:47.57 | Brigo | cherubino, find what? |
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| 21:48.29 | cherubino | the version with the kernel ready to run the Xen VM manager |
| 21:49.14 | Brigo | cherubino, i think all versions are ready. |
| 21:49.51 | cherubino | Brigo: hm, ok |
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| 21:50.15 | Brigo | cherubino, yes, i am right, just check the debin xen wiki |
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| 21:50.52 | cherubino | Brigo: ok |
| 21:50.56 | cherubino | thanks |
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| 21:52.44 | Brigo | cherubino, yw :) |
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| 21:56.06 | ke4nhw | What is the default firewall daemon for Debian, is it firewalld or iptables? |
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| 21:56.46 | greycat | There is no firewall by default. |
| 21:57.25 | ke4nhw | Okay, I'll have to look into iptables, I'm a bit of a fan of it. I still haven't made the committed leap to firewalld |
| 21:57.36 | greycat | The iptables package is installed by default, I believe. Priority is "important". |
| 21:57.44 | greycat | But it's not configured to do anything by default. |
| 21:57.51 | ke4nhw | priority? |
| 21:58.11 | ke4nhw | Is it relatively the same as in CentOS or Fedora? |
| 21:58.54 | greycat | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html#s-priority |
| 21:59.19 | ke4nhw | wow this is going to take some getting used to... I'm used to yum and dnf, not apt-get. Can you also give me a link to docs on apt-get and searching/installing from repos? |
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| 21:59.54 | greycat | search with "apt-cache search ..." and install with "apt-get install ..." |
| 22:00.11 | greycat | Definitely read "man apt-get" though. |
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| 22:00.49 | ke4nhw | Oh yea, I'm going to have to do a lot of man page reading before I do much on here. Again I've never used Debian, it's always been RH-based distros |
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| 22:06.42 | Ripmind | Hello! Did anyone get my message i sent before? |
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| 22:08.31 | Checksum | hello world |
| 22:08.42 | Ripmind | Hello checksum |
| 22:09.35 | Checksum | So, im quite new to the IRC world, recommend a good source of knowledge for me? |
| 22:09.46 | Checksum | besides the typical google results |
| 22:09.53 | greycat | knowledge of what? |
| 22:09.58 | derstrom | Checksum: About what? |
| 22:10.08 | Checksum | my first would be i guess registering my name? |
| 22:10.08 | beepie | Checksum, maybe ask on #linux |
| 22:10.19 | beepie | Checksum, there's linuxtopia |
| 22:10.28 | beepie | is on #linux |
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| 22:10.34 | greycat | Checksum: /msg nickserv help |
| 22:10.37 | derstrom | Checksum: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup |
| 22:10.38 | cherubino | Checksum: ask in channel #freenode about registering |
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| 22:11.01 | derstrom | This has nothing to do with Debian though, so you'll need to ask in the proper channel if you're having trouble. |
| 22:11.12 | Ripmind | I have the feeling my ssd just died. Is there some way to check that? My windows just stopped executing, even shutdown did not work. That's the error i now get trying to mount the ssd in debian: http://pastie.org/10568481 |
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| 22:16.59 | cherubino | Ripmind: doesn't seem the SSD is dead. Open the /etc/fstab file and add the "ro" option to the line that mounts the SSD. |
| 22:18.41 | cherubino | Ripmind: also, make sure the "cleanup" otpion is set to "1" in that same line that mounts the SSD. Read "man mount" for details. |
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| 22:19.23 | Ripmind | cherubino, i don't want it ro and i did not shutdown windows anyway.. it could'nt even shutdown, it just hung up |
| 22:19.42 | Ripmind | also i am usning the mount command to mount it |
| 22:20.08 | cherubino | Ripmind: "ro" is only to troubleshoot your problems, you'll remove later. |
| 22:20.37 | Ripmind | this didnt work either: http://pastie.org/10568511 |
| 22:20.55 | Ripmind | cherubino, i already tried ro, that worked |
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| 22:21.52 | cherubino | Ripmind: were you able to see the space used and available of the SSD? |
| 22:22.32 | Ripmind | http://pastie.org/10568514 |
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| 22:23.42 | Ripmind | cherubino, i'm currently running badblocks, do you think that will tell me something? |
| 22:24.01 | cherubino | Ripmind: should |
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| 22:24.20 | Ripmind | but... i heared ssd tend to die write first, read can still work |
| 22:24.32 | Ripmind | so i would need some way to test writing to it... |
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| 22:27.21 | cherubino | Ripmind: doesn't look dead to me. "man mount" is your friend; read the options to "backup", and "cleanup" the filesystem being mounted. |
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| 22:28.44 | Ripmind | cherubino, thanks, i'll check that |
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| 22:29.07 | cherubino | Ripmind: :) welcome |
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| 22:29.21 | ke4nhw | I'm reading through docs and am still lost. I have iptables and iptables-persistent installed, and created some rules with 'iptables -A' commands on the command line. How do I save these changes, and where is the iptables file written so I can read it when needed? |
| 22:30.18 | cherubino | K Stew . . . such a darling . . . |
| 22:30.44 | ke4nhw | This is definitely different than CentOS and Fedora |
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| 22:31.21 | jhutchins | ke4nhw: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 22:31.46 | jhutchins | ke4nhw: Did you check the files in /usr/share/doc/iptables-persistent? |
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| 22:32.22 | ke4nhw | I did not, but I am there now and will check these out, thanks |
| 22:32.49 | jhutchins | ke4nhw: Jessie uses netfilter-persistent |
| 22:35.11 | ke4nhw | Okay, one thing not mentioned so far is how to stop and/or restart iptables once installed |
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| 22:39.19 | ke4nhw | Is there a iptables.service so it can be turned on and off, restarted, etc? |
| 22:39.33 | ke4nhw | Or is it always on once installed? |
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| 23:12.59 | Tom01 | Does somebody know, where I can find the Sensors-Applet? |
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| 23:13.25 | Tom01 | on Debian Gnome |
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| 23:19.27 | CapsAdmin | is there an easy way to test plasma 5.5 on debian? |
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| 23:21.19 | xargs | Is it even in sid? Though I don't think that would be a good idea. |
| 23:21.47 | xargs | #debian-kde is on OFTC, ask around, etc. |
| 23:22.07 | CapsAdmin | nah it's not. the current version in sid is 5.4 |
| 23:22.09 | CapsAdmin | ah, thanks |
| 23:22.21 | xargs | No problem |
| 23:23.20 | xargs | I doubt it, 5.5 might be experimental but that'd be suicide :D |
| 23:24.01 | xargs | Unless you want to try to build it yourself and that's not The Debian Way(tm) |
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| 23:32.03 | Anthaas | fdisk -l isn't returning any information |
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| 23:36.00 | MACscr | Anthaas: as root? |
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| 23:41.00 | Anthaas | MACscr, yeah - I figured the problem out now, thanks anyway |
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