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| 00:16.19 | yeah_guy | \msg nickserv indentify Blashyrkh |
| 00:16.55 | danijoo | yeah_guy, time to change your password ;) |
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| 00:18.08 | cmyers | I am having issues with the installer trying to get it to see the firmware files needed for my wifi - it prompts for them, I put in the thumb drive, click "yes", but it still doesn't see them. |
| 00:18.16 | cmyers | I can even flip over to terminal and mount the drive |
| 00:18.18 | cmyers | and see them |
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| 00:18.26 | cmyers | where does it want them? can I manually install them? |
| 00:19.12 | cra1g321 | <cmyers> the deb files go in the "firmware" folder |
| 00:19.26 | cmyers | cra1g321: /lib/firmware? |
| 00:19.57 | cra1g321 | no, when you make the usb thumb drive, copy them into the firmware folder before booting |
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| 00:26.04 | yeah_guy | danijoo: thanks |
| 00:27.40 | cmyers | cra1g321: ooh, awesome, thanks |
| 00:29.08 | mi11k1 | cmyers, just use wired eth |
| 00:29.42 | cmyers | mi11k1: Patient: "it hurts when I X" Doctor: "then stop doing that" |
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| 00:30.35 | mi11k1 | after install firmware-ralink, etc |
| 00:31.15 | mi11k1 | i hate a botching installs halfway |
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| 00:35.55 | BogeymanAgnostic | How do I edit the keyboard layout? I want to switch "-" and "_", so that I don't need to hold the shift down whenever I want to type an underscore |
| 00:36.07 | BogeymanAgnostic | I want it in the shell |
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| 00:48.22 | peterrooney | BogeymanAgnostic: you could try xmodmap -pke > correct_keymap ; sed 's/minus underscore/underscore minus/g' correct_keymap > wanted_keymap ; xmodmap wanted_keymap |
| 00:49.30 | peterrooney | and then you could use "xmodmap correct_keymap" whenever anyone you didn't hate wanted to use your X session. |
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| 00:51.10 | BogeymanAgnostic | peterrooney: thank you |
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| 00:52.52 | peterrooney | however, it would be adviseable to actually inspect your keymap first to see if that's applicable given possible locale issues. |
| 00:53.05 | BogeymanAgnostic | I see |
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| 01:00.56 | cmyers | I am stull having trouble installing debian on this laptop - the installer has failed to install grub2. I've done encrypted LVM setup and the system require UFEI boot because legacy bios is not supported by the NVME drive |
| 01:01.11 | cmyers | it gives no error messages or anything, just says grub2 install failed |
| 01:01.19 | cmyers | can I flip over to busybox and manually run it or something? |
| 01:02.47 | cmyers | when I run grub-installer /dev/nvme0n1p1 I see: ls: /dev/nvme0n1p1/proc not a directory |
| 01:02.54 | cmyers | which seems like crazy pants |
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| 01:03.43 | Shibe | if i want to switch from jessie to sid, how can I? |
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| 01:06.22 | AvatarA | you change your sources.list so they point to sid instead of jessie, then you apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 01:07.10 | AvatarA | at least, if you have a pure debian jessie not mixed with anything else like debian multimedia or other stuff |
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| 01:07.19 | sje46 | AvatarA: should it normally take ~3-4 hours to upgrade to jessie? |
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| 01:07.41 | AvatarA | if hard drive is slow |
| 01:08.05 | cra1g321 | <AvatarA> the apt-get upgrade seems uneeded, seeing as it's dist-upgrade after, or am i wrong ? |
| 01:08.22 | Shibe | AvatarA: should i replace jessie with "testing"? |
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| 01:08.50 | Shibe | Avasz: what do i c hange this into? http://i.shibe.ml/sUjyC43S.png |
| 01:08.52 | AvatarA | Shibe, you said sid, sid is not testing, it is unstable |
| 01:08.52 | Shibe | change* |
| 01:08.57 | Shibe | ohh |
| 01:08.59 | Shibe | i want testing |
| 01:09.02 | Shibe | what do i do |
| 01:09.11 | AvatarA | change jessie to stretch |
| 01:09.14 | Shibe | ok |
| 01:09.24 | cra1g321 | should make reconsider using testing or sid imo, if you dont even know how to switch to it.... |
| 01:09.40 | Shibe | cra1g321: just want to try it out |
| 01:09.51 | cra1g321 | fair enough :) |
| 01:10.49 | AvatarA | it's pretty nice if you don't mind constantly updating and some rare odd bugs/breaks |
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| 01:11.38 | AvatarA | I would sum it up: new stuff, more maintenance |
| 01:13.28 | sje46 | AvatarA: hmm, appears i have a ton of harddrive space used up |
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| 01:13.55 | sje46 | /dev/sda7 45959296 37147532 6470508 86% / |
| 01:14.09 | sje46 | would that cause great slow down |
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| 01:15.02 | AvatarA | great, nope, slight, maybe but not necessarily |
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| 01:22.03 | mi3 | can any1 help me i have cyborg linux and when i use vmware it just lags it doesnt boot into the linux also with kali the linux wont boot up, what linux do i use under the installatoin part of vmware player when it gives u the option for what linux to use for each of them |
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| 01:34.08 | awal | sid is likely more stable then windows , ubuntu, mint, arch.... |
| 01:34.20 | awal | dont know why its called unstable :D |
| 01:34.45 | musca | because it changes |
| 01:35.14 | awal | they should be called: sid/stable, stretch/very stable, jessie/extra-stable :D |
| 01:36.28 | awal | Shibe: if you have time for maintenance, other then stable I recommend you sid... |
| 01:36.30 | AvatarA | eh, til you have tried kernel 4.2.something and you get white screen of death :> |
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| 01:39.53 | mancomunado | I messed with "update-rc.d list" and now kde requires me to $xinit startkde... without administrator privileges that can't even restart the machine. How can I start fixing it? |
| 01:41.12 | foul_owl | If I log into a server as the user "foul_owl" then become root via "sudo su -" is there a way I can "release" the "foul_owl" user so that I can change the uid of "foul_owl"? (Doing it via puppet right now and getting complaints "is currently used by process 1234" |
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| 01:53.15 | linuxthefish | how can i set "linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae" as the kernel to boot? |
| 01:53.26 | linuxthefish | i can't see the grub screen |
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| 01:57.16 | AvatarA | seems like you set timeout to 0 |
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| 01:58.14 | linuxthefish | AvatarA i can't physically see the menu |
| 01:58.26 | linuxthefish | like my access device is only over SSH |
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| 01:59.00 | AvatarA | eh, that's another story |
| 01:59.04 | AvatarA | depends what you're accessing |
| 01:59.16 | linuxthefish | argh the linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae package is gone now |
| 01:59.57 | AvatarA | you need to look into /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 02:00.20 | AvatarA | and then set the desired entry into /etd/default/grub, then update-grub, etc. |
| 02:00.35 | AvatarA | but normally, latest kernel installed should be the one to boot |
| 02:01.09 | AvatarA | (/etd should be /etc, typo) |
| 02:01.23 | linuxthefish | the latest kernel has some strange bug with bonding |
| 02:02.08 | AvatarA | like I said, depends what you're using; for example digitalocean required you to change the kernel in their own web interface |
| 02:02.54 | linuxthefish | nah it's a physical computer but i can't count which number to use for the menu entry |
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| 02:03.48 | linuxthefish | and there are submenus also |
| 02:04.37 | AvatarA | submenu is numberofsubmenu>numberofentry or something like that if I remember correctly |
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| 03:11.46 | transhuman | g_mutex_new is now depreciated as of debian 8 is there a way to get access to this library by downgrading. A package running on wine requires it |
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| 03:29.27 | adamt | Has the systemd delegate option been backported from systemd 218 to the 215 in debian stable? (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-3352) |
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| 03:39.18 | ManHe | hi |
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| 03:42.50 | quique | i'm trying to mount a lv partition and i'm getting the fs wrong fs type. I'm pretty sure it's ext4, with blkid I get this: |
| 03:43.17 | quique | PTUUID="00025414" PTTYPE="dos" |
| 03:43.23 | quique | not TYPE |
| 03:43.43 | quique | but just PTTYPE, which i assume mean partition type dos |
| 03:44.03 | quique | so there's a part table, hmm what does that mean? |
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| 03:44.56 | quique | is that like partitions are embedd in the lvm partition? |
| 03:45.34 | BenNZ | quique: whats the full output of blikd |
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| 03:50.32 | quique | BenNZ: http://fpaste.org/296494/ |
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| 03:52.26 | Nicolas_Leonidas | if you change the CPU of a machine that runs debian, and reboot will it run no problem? will it detect it's new hardware settings and take full advantage of it? |
| 03:52.49 | BenNZ | Nicolas_Leonidas: are you using a generic kernel ? |
| 03:53.02 | BenNZ | quique: ok not sure with kvm sorry |
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| 03:53.21 | Nicolas_Leonidas | this is what I'm using => ebian-wheezy-amd64-pvm-2015-01-28-ebs-8e939b13-41b6-40bc-b2ba-481f2d6c5d79-ami-baeda9d2.2 (ami-22de994a) |
| 03:53.27 | Nicolas_Leonidas | not sure if it's a generic kernel |
| 03:53.33 | Nicolas_Leonidas | can you tell by looking at this? |
| 03:53.36 | quique | BenNZ: looks like it was a lvm nested, got to it with kpartx |
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| 03:54.53 | BenNZ | Nicolas_Leonidas: should be alright then , you could always grep -i /boot/config-$(uname -r) <cputype> |
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| 04:03.28 | Nicolas_Leonidas | got disconnected did someone answer my question? |
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| 04:03.37 | Bird|otherbox | sid is too old |
| 04:03.48 | Bird|otherbox | dpkg sid is too old |
| 04:03.48 | dpkg | ...but sid is already something else... |
| 04:03.54 | Bird|otherbox | dpkg sid |
| 04:03.54 | dpkg | it has been said that sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 04:04.43 | Bird|otherbox | dpkg backports |
| 04:04.43 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 04:04.49 | Bird|otherbox | dpkg simple sid backport |
| 04:04.50 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 04:04.56 | Bird|otherbox | dpkg uupdate |
| 04:04.56 | dpkg | uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>. |
| 04:05.07 | shingouz | !tell Bird|otherbox about selftell |
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| 04:07.41 | shingouz | Nicolas_Leonidas: uname -a should spit out the kernel version you are running. swapping the cpu for something else should not matter (unless you go to something that is explicitly unsupported by the kernel). a faster cpu is usually not a problem, going from a 686 to a 386 would be both physically and for the kernel |
| 04:11.09 | Nicolas_Leonidas | shingouz: cool, that makes sense, I'll know if it actually works or not very soon |
| 04:12.03 | shingouz | Nicolas_Leonidas: be smart and leave the old cpu sitting somewhere real close. just in case. |
| 04:13.39 | Nicolas_Leonidas | shingouz: this is all happening in da cloud! :) it's ok it's a copy of a running machine |
| 04:14.39 | shingouz | Nicolas_Leonidas: you change a cpu over ssh? now *that* is a trick i would like to learn, ssh into the server room to upgrade hardware. neat. |
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| 04:17.59 | Nicolas_Leonidas | no it's in aws you make a snapshot you create new volume create new instance attach it boom! |
| 04:18.07 | Nicolas_Leonidas | did I imply it's over ssh? |
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| 04:19.21 | shingouz | nope... i just recall that you were worried if your new cpu is supported by the old kernel, then you mention that the box in question is in the cloud... that usually implies you do not have physical access to the box, ergo ssh |
| 04:19.37 | somiaj | Nicolas_Leonidas: what cpu are you changin to and from on aws? |
| 04:20.12 | shingouz | would be neat though... remote hardware upgrades... via fax :p |
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| 04:47.20 | Bird|otherbox | ugh. sigrok-cli is FTBFSing in a most awkward way -- dpkg-buildpackage isn't invoking the compile step, apparently!? |
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| 05:06.59 | MACscr | how can i safely remove timesyncd? id rather just use ntp on all my systems no matter the OS and not all are using systemd yet |
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| 05:08.39 | MACscr | if so, how should i go about doing that |
| 05:11.13 | tubaman | MACscr: are you running jessie? |
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| 05:17.01 | MACscr | tubaman: yes |
| 05:17.01 | tubaman | MACscr: the reason I ask is because I'm running jessie and I have ntp running with no timesyncd. In fact, I don't ever think I've had timesyncd running |
| 05:17.10 | tubaman | (or installed) |
| 05:17.29 | MACscr | i use proxmox with it, which might have installed it. Either way, i dont want it. |
| 05:18.43 | tubaman | ah, actually it gets installed with systemd |
| 05:18.47 | tubaman | hrmmm |
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| 05:21.51 | Behruz | In kde when i hit the hibernate it simply does log out and won't shutdown my computer |
| 05:22.25 | Behruz | How to hibernate in debian 8 |
| 05:22.36 | tubaman | MACscr: maybe try timedatectl set-ntp false |
| 05:23.32 | Igel_ | Behruz: do you have function-sleep |
| 05:23.42 | Igel_ | try that keyboard key |
| 05:25.19 | Behruz | Where can i do that ? I my windows i setup my laptop's power botton for that |
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| 05:26.51 | Igel_ | are you in gnome or kde or wmanager or..? |
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| 05:27.56 | Behruz | I always run gnome,but kde does have that botton |
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| 05:33.11 | NoCode | Is there anyway to get libqt5widgets5 >= 5.4.0 on Debian Jessie? |
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| 05:35.26 | catpigger | hi everyone, i am trying to get a touchscreen to work in current debian-stable. i don't need anything fancy, tbh all i need is the ability to make normal (left-)clicks. it almost works out of the box, the only problem is that whilst it moves the cursor if i tap the screen, it doesnt issue a click - it merely moves the mouse cursor |
| 05:35.55 | catpigger | anyone have any idea how i might fix this? using fluxbox, but i'm not married to that (though I would rather avoid the heavy DEs) |
| 05:36.07 | catpigger | i tried searching the web but no luck |
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| 05:51.24 | somiaj | catpigger: you could run xev and see if you can figure out events if any get triggered when you touch the screen. As for configuring what events get setn from teh driver, I'm unsure |
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| 05:53.31 | catpigger | somiaj, ok, having a look now. trying evtest, too |
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| 06:00.35 | cmyers | due to (I am pretty sure) a bug in debian-installer my system failed to install grub2 (but everything else installed ok). I booted with a rescue disk, mounted all my partitions in a chroot, and have been able to install packages, etc. now I need to install grub, but it is saying "grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory." |
| 06:00.55 | cmyers | my system is using efi, and /sys/firmware/efi exists (bind-mounted into the chroot) |
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| 06:04.15 | cmyers | aha! https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall says the eps partitions should be mounted at /boot/efi |
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| 06:06.25 | cmyers | erm, not the efi partition, thje boot partition has an efi folder, got it. |
| 06:07.23 | somiaj | boot need not be a partitio, but efi needs to be a partition (fat partition) for efi boot |
| 06:07.36 | somiaj | so you need to mount the efi partition in the folder inside of boot. |
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| 06:08.48 | cmyers | wish me luck, here we go! |
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| 06:10.48 | catpigger | hm ok, with xev i only get LeaveNotify and EnterNotify. though i did get a click event (not sure of exact name) earlier, but i cant reproduce it anymore |
| 06:12.52 | cmyers | argh, no luck. I need to figure out how to get grub installed so it will unlock my encrypted vuolume, etc. |
| 06:13.31 | catpigger | cmyers, not an expert (at all) on full disk encryption, but wouldnt that task belong to the initramfs and not grub? |
| 06:13.50 | cmyers | no clue, maybe? |
| 06:14.00 | cmyers | I am looking for docs to figure out how this crap works now |
| 06:14.04 | cmyers | it is infuriating |
| 06:14.22 | cmyers | I could have a working ubuntu system right now but I wanted debian, but the debian installer is broke =( |
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| 06:16.05 | cmyers | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Configuring_the_boot_loader_2 says you need to pass certain params to your bootloader |
| 06:16.14 | cmyers | erm, your bootloader needs to pass it to the kernel |
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| 06:19.30 | cmyers | I'm on a grub prompt right now |
| 06:19.37 | cmyers | I see the various partitions |
| 06:19.45 | cmyers | can I manually unlock the disk? |
| 06:20.33 | somiaj | you can drop to a grub console, but I am not familar with how to use it to get it to manually do much. |
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| 06:29.27 | _B_A_T_M_A_N_ | does canaima have an irc client installed by default? |
| 06:30.17 | _B_A_T_M_A_N_ | nvm |
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| 06:31.36 | catpigger | solved my problem, in the way that i considered least likely to conceivably succeed - download a driver from the manufacturer and follow the instructions |
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| 06:33.33 | tres | How would one go about listing all the packages installed (by me, the user) since I installed the base system? |
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| 06:34.12 | catpigger | tres, i dont have the answer, but just to clarify the question, you mean packages explicitly demanded by you without the dependencies? |
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| 06:34.24 | tres | Correct |
| 06:34.42 | catpigger | ok, i'm sure someone will have the answer in a few moments ^^ |
| 06:35.02 | tres | The things I would need to "apt-get install ???" to get a machine in the same state as I have now. |
| 06:35.30 | tres | thanks catpigger |
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| 06:37.45 | catpigger | hm apparently the question is harder than i thought. but this may help: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3595/list-explicitly-installed-packages |
| 06:37.52 | catpigger | didnt read it all but i think the answer is in there |
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| 06:38.53 | tres | Thanks. I did try before asking in here. I'm a Gentoo guy with a Raspberry Pi, using Raspbian, and I figured you could help. |
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| 06:39.29 | catpigger | ah, i'm from gentoo too lol |
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| 06:40.22 | tres | catpigger, Nice. Is there a way to get all the install packages sorted by the date of install? |
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| 06:42.30 | iam_debianian_ | hi, how can i use selinux on debian? |
| 06:42.50 | hiya | iam_debianian_, Use AppArmor |
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| 06:43.24 | iam_debianian_ | why? |
| 06:43.27 | catpigger | tres, i dont think there'll be a specific tool or something, but it should be possible to produce such a list with a bit of scripting. probably |
| 06:44.15 | iam_debianian_ | hiya: my boss wants selinux |
| 06:44.47 | hiya | iam_debianian_, just see the wiki and start |
| 06:44.50 | tres | catpigger, `cat /var/lib/portage/world` ? ;) |
| 06:44.51 | catpigger | tres, worst case, i'm sure apt-get puts a log somewhere (or can be told to do so), you could work off that |
| 06:45.05 | catpigger | well the world file doesnt contain info about when a package was installed ;) |
| 06:45.25 | tres | No, nor does it exist in Debian. It is time sorted though |
| 06:45.26 | iam_debianian_ | ok |
| 06:45.30 | t0mthumb | tres: the logs from /var/log/dpkg* would need to be parsed, but the info is there |
| 06:45.41 | tres | Many thanks |
| 06:45.49 | somiaj | iam_debianian_: yes you can. It isn't enabled by default, but there is some documention on the wiki and other places you can find. I haven't done it so don't know how good the documentation is |
| 06:46.27 | catpigger | iam_debianian_, be warned that SELinux is infamously complex |
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| 06:47.09 | iam_debianian_ | Opps! |
| 06:47.16 | iam_debianian_ | E: Package 'selinux-policy-default' has no installation candidate |
| 06:47.26 | catpigger | (though i have also never used SELinux) |
| 06:47.35 | tres | t0mb0, Yep, that'll work. I can do the sorting. Thanks much. |
| 06:47.52 | tres | t0mthumb, Yep, that'll work. I can do the sorting. Thanks much. |
| 06:48.03 | t0mthumb | tres: also /var/log/apt/history* may be of interest |
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| 06:48.51 | tres | t0mthumb, Even better. ;) |
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| 06:50.52 | somiaj | ,v selinux-policy-default |
| 06:50.53 | judd | Package: selinux-policy-default on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:0.2.20100524-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 2:2.20110726-12; sid: 2:2.20140421-9 |
| 06:51.22 | somiaj | iam_debianian_: I do recall this, it seems it was removed from jessie, and there was a bug report explaing this. One second |
| 06:52.28 | iam_debianian_ | Oh, this explains alot.... |
| 06:52.33 | iam_debianian_ | thanks anyway |
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| 06:55.36 | somiaj | iam_debianian_: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756729 -- I don't know much about selinux, but the end of that bug report has a repo for a new policy for jessie. Unsure if it is best to use this or make your own. |
| 06:55.37 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/756729 in selinux-policy-default (open): «selinux-policy-default: Setting SELinux to enforce results in not configured network interface at boot time»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-08-01; last modified: 2015-09-15. |
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| 07:13.56 | cmyers | argh, I'm so close. I'm chrooted into my new but broken encrypted LVM system. I just have to figure out how to rebuild grub/initrd/whatevs to make the boot process work |
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| 07:14.50 | cmyers | also, I reported the bug on the d-i, so hopefully that helps =| |
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| 07:16.35 | enth | hello all |
| 07:16.45 | enth | since updating recently i have no sound in flash player |
| 07:16.57 | enth | neither on google-chrome nor iceweasel |
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| 07:17.10 | enth | but sounds play outside of the browser |
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| 07:30.05 | cmyers | argh, mkinitramfs fails because it is using uname to get the name of the kernel outside my chroot, then looking at /lib/modules/... in the chroot |
| 07:30.11 | cmyers | I need to tell it manually what uname it should use |
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| 07:34.24 | cmyers | this is infuriating - if only there was documentation somewhere that is like "here is how you build an initramfs followed by configuring grub to use it, in conjunction with encrypted lvm" |
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| 07:36.56 | bazhang | https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Custom_Initramfs" cmyers |
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| 07:37.04 | bazhang | many more listings |
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| 07:40.31 | cmyers | bazhang: hmm, that actually expalins how to make it from scratch, rather than with mkinitramfs |
| 07:40.34 | cmyers | but that could work |
| 07:41.33 | bazhang | I just used the exact terms you put |
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| 07:41.53 | bazhang | did not see a mention of mkinitetcetc |
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| 07:42.45 | cmyers | yes, well I was hoping for debian-specific instructions. |
| 07:42.45 | cmyers | I don't want to do something fragile that will break |
| 07:42.45 | cmyers | what I really want is it tlo look just like it would have if the installer hadn't failed |
| 07:42.48 | cmyers | but maI'm close to giving up and installing ubuntu until the bug is fixed |
| 07:42.51 | cmyers | but I really would prefer debian. |
| 07:43.24 | cmyers | I didn't come to this channel because I am bad at googling =( |
| 07:43.56 | bazhang | tlo? |
| 07:44.44 | cmyers | tlo? |
| 07:44.48 | bazhang | is that like thanks? |
| 07:45.39 | bazhang | good luck then |
| 07:45.43 | cmyers | yes. yes it is. thanks for inserting my question directly into google and sending me the first link.. |
| 07:46.54 | danijoo | dont forget to write a good guide once you figure it out :> |
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| 07:47.53 | somiaj | cmyers: man nkinitramfs, you can tell it what kernel version to use (it just defaults to running kernel) |
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| 07:48.26 | bazhang | just found the debian wiki one, very informative |
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| 07:49.33 | cmyers | somiaj: oh, nice find! the --help screen didn't mention that option |
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| 07:50.24 | somiaj | what --help screen? I get /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: unrecognized option '--help' |
| 07:50.56 | cmyers | oh, just running with no args I mean |
| 07:50.57 | cmyers | the brief usage |
| 07:51.15 | cmyers | I see it says [version] but it doesn't explain what it meant, didn't realize it meant kernel version |
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| 07:51.40 | somiaj | the manpage is always more detailed. (: |
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| 07:53.10 | cmyers | ok, so it created a file the same size as the initrd.img put there by the installer |
| 07:53.31 | cmyers | maybe that initrd.img file is actually an initramfs, or maybe it's a coincidence |
| 07:54.53 | cart_man | Hi everyone... I want to simply launch a program after the desktop started up. BUT I want it to open up a terminal. I have my script that starts up the program but I do not have access to the program since its in the processing but not in a Terminal ? |
| 07:55.09 | somiaj | the initrd.img is the initramfs generated when you install the package by mkinitramfs |
| 07:55.21 | cmyers | ok, that's what I thought. |
| 07:55.22 | somiaj | so unless you changed some options it would generate the same file. |
| 07:55.32 | cmyers | I gave it a -o just to be safe |
| 07:55.38 | cmyers | what I should probably do is backup the old one |
| 07:55.41 | cmyers | and let it overwrite. |
| 07:55.44 | uefi | hi all, is there any how-to/guide on getting Debian Stable/Testing to work in dual boot with Windows 10 on a HP Laptopn with UEFI ...its proving to be quite a task :-| |
| 07:56.02 | cmyers | uefi: tell me about it =( |
| 07:56.03 | somiaj | cart_man: launch it inside a screen or tmux, then you can connect to the screen/tmux process from a terminal when y ou want. |
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| 07:56.21 | cmyers | I'm not even doing the dual-boot part of it, but I require uefi and the current debian installer appears to be broken on my hardware |
| 07:56.27 | cart_man | somiaj: Ok how do I connect to a process using tmux? |
| 07:56.35 | somiaj | cart_man: or you can usually launch a program in a terminal directly, but in this case when you log in, it will pop open the terminal running the program. |
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| 07:56.56 | somiaj | cart_man: I'm unsure with tmux, with screen, just 'screen -r' to attach to a screen, man screen or man tmux for how to connect to a session |
| 07:57.29 | uefi | cmyers: have you tried switching off UEFI (i.e., setting it to Legacy mode)? |
| 07:57.31 | cart_man | Ok soo... screen -r will cause the background process to pop up as if I called it from a terminal? |
| 07:57.32 | somiaj | uefi: uefi isn't to bad, the trick is you have to use an offical debian installer and make sure you have secure boot disabled. |
| 07:57.49 | somiaj | uefi: the other trick is the installer can boot either legacy or efi, so ensure you are correctly booting the installer in efi mode. |
| 07:58.15 | somiaj | cart_man: screen is a command that is a terminal (so the command is running inside the termainl created by screen) |
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| 07:58.41 | uefi | somiaj: i have fastboot & secure boot turned off, how do i ensure d-i boots in UEFI? |
| 07:58.43 | somiaj | cart_man: the nice thing about this, is screen gives you the abitlity to attach any terminal to a running instance of screen. So y ou could even attach to it if you sshed into your machine. |
| 07:58.55 | somiaj | uefi: do you have legacy boot disabled? |
| 07:59.07 | cmyers | uefi: I can't, my only hard drive is a nvme flash device that requires ufi |
| 07:59.12 | somiaj | uefi: usually efi boot will give you the name of the boot, so you should see debian or something like that, while legacy you just point it at a drive. |
| 07:59.18 | uefi | somiaj: it is currently set to UEFI(with CSM) |
| 07:59.51 | cart_man | somiaj: Ok soo lets say my programs name is "testProgram" and I want to make it run with screen from a script that launches on startup... what would the line in my script look like? |
| 07:59.53 | somiaj | uefi: as for what to do for a paticular uefi, I do not know. I just know efi boot worked just fine on my few machines. |
| 08:00.01 | somiaj | cart_man: man screen |
| 08:00.16 | somiaj | cart_man: play around with it, learn how to launch programs in it from a termainla. Then you have your command |
| 08:00.33 | somiaj | I'm sure you can find some quick guides to screen online too |
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| 08:06.03 | cart_man | somiaj: Ok but the problem is that I need the pid ...which will be unknown to me? |
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| 08:06.43 | cmyers | inspecting the initrd, it doesn't have cryptsetup in it...so it can't possibly work |
| 08:07.09 | kerunaru | Hi, guys |
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| 08:07.45 | somiaj | cart_man: you wn't need the pid, just do a screen --list to list the running screen sessions and connect to the appropriate one |
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| 08:08.02 | somiaj | cmyers: then modify /etc/whatever to tell it to include other modules |
| 08:08.03 | cmyers | the initramfs.conf file must be wrong ior something =( |
| 08:08.19 | kerunaru | I tried to perform a query on mySQL and it says me this: Incorrect key file for table '/tmp/#sql_22f1_0.MYI'; |
| 08:08.41 | kerunaru | So I df -h and realize that my /tmp is full |
| 08:08.48 | kerunaru | What should I do? :) |
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| 08:09.02 | somiaj | cmyers: unsure if you need to add something special for crypt support, it might have just not included it in the config if it didn't detect it. |
| 08:09.16 | somiaj | kerunaru: what is filling your tmp up? |
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| 08:09.51 | cart_man | somiaj: I already see that this is very useful stuff... But I can not ask a client to type screen -list ...ok then look for the process id and type screen -r 2131 etc ... you see my problem ? It needs to start up by itself ready for the client to use . I do however see the usefulness of screens O.o |
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| 08:10.48 | somiaj | cart_man: so then as I said, you can launch programs inside a terminal directly. I use xterm, so xterm -e "command" |
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| 08:11.15 | somiaj | cart_man: note if only one screen session is running, 'screen -r' will connect tot he only one that is running |
| 08:11.15 | kerunaru | There are some Calibre temp files, systemd related stuff and Rubocop ruby linter temp files too... Not too much |
| 08:11.20 | somiaj | cart_man: so no need to look it up. |
| 08:11.20 | kerunaru | somiaj |
| 08:11.32 | cmyers | somiaj: so far, it looks like I need to add some things to the modules and some scripts as well. found some instructions here that are helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto |
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| 08:11.36 | somiaj | kerunaru: how much space do you have in /tmp? |
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| 08:11.41 | cart_man | somiaj: Ohhhh ok ok ,, let me check that option.. THanks allot for the patience though ...appreciated :) |
| 08:11.44 | kerunaru | But, I can see my /tmp is just 337M |
| 08:12.00 | kerunaru | 337M, somiaj |
| 08:12.04 | kerunaru | ._. |
| 08:12.04 | somiaj | kerunaru: that sounds like a lot. |
| 08:12.23 | kerunaru | Should I simply delete files? |
| 08:12.24 | somiaj | kerunaru: but I don't run a server, my /tmp isn't even a meg. |
| 08:12.36 | somiaj | kerunaru: I wouldn't unless you know the program that put the file there no longer needs it |
| 08:12.52 | somiaj | kerunaru: I would figure out what files are taking up the space and see if this is normal or not |
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| 08:13.07 | somiaj | kerunaru: since I don't work on may servers I can't tell you what is normal for a server |
| 08:13.25 | kerunaru | Ok, let me make some research |
| 08:13.29 | kerunaru | Thanks, somiaj |
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| 08:14.45 | kerunaru | Ok, somiaj |
| 08:14.51 | kerunaru | It was IceWeasel |
| 08:14.53 | kerunaru | xD |
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| 08:15.06 | kerunaru | Just closed it and everything is fine now |
| 08:16.34 | somiaj | kerunaru: flash will do that |
| 08:16.47 | somiaj | kerunaru: you should use pepper flash, as it won't put files in /tmp which is a lot nicer |
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| 08:17.05 | somiaj | ,v browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash |
| 08:17.06 | judd | Package: browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash on amd64 -- jessie-backports/contrib: 0.3.2-1~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 0.3.2-1+b1; stretch/contrib: 0.3.2-1+b1 |
| 08:17.07 | reev_ | Hii, how can i run a bash script when interface goes down but not when system reboots |
| 08:17.28 | kerunaru | I think I don't have flash installed actually |
| 08:17.31 | kerunaru | :-/ |
| 08:17.34 | somiaj | kerunaru: you can get that from jessie-backports (it is non-free but I think the problem is the adobe non-free flash) |
| 08:17.56 | somiaj | kerunaru: well if that is not the case, I'm unsure what else iceweasel is putting there. I just nkow that flash is a common culprit. |
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| 08:18.13 | somiaj | reev_: how do you bring your interfaces up and down? |
| 08:18.23 | kerunaru | To be honest, I had LOTS of tabs |
| 08:18.34 | reev_ | somiaj:when i plug and unplugg wire from eth0 |
| 08:19.31 | somiaj | reev_: that really doesn't answer my question. Do you use the interfaces file with allow-hotplug, do you use network manager, networkd, etc? |
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| 08:20.05 | cart_man | somiaj: Is there some way to connect proper names to these screen processes ? |
| 08:20.12 | reev_ | somiaj: i am using network-manager |
| 08:20.26 | cart_man | somiaj: If I could do that and make the names static then ti would be more then perfect ! |
| 08:20.40 | somiaj | cart_man: maybe, man screen |
| 08:20.47 | somiaj | cart_man: I think so, I just don't use it that often. |
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| 08:21.25 | somiaj | reev_: then you will have to see if network manager can run a script after it brings an interface up. This I do not know. (interfaces fill has a post-up command which you can use to run scripts after an interface is brought up) |
| 08:23.13 | reev_ | somiaj: okay that i will do it but will be followed when system reboots |
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| 08:23.21 | reev_ | *same |
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| 08:23.57 | cart_man | somiaj: For future reference... To create a new screen with the name foo, use screen -S foo |
| 08:24.00 | somiaj | reev_: if you configure network-manager to run a script every time the interface is brought up, it will happen every time it is brought up. |
| 08:24.00 | cart_man | :) |
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| 08:24.40 | reev_ | somiaj: that is the problem, how can i make sure it doesn't run when system reboots |
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| 08:25.22 | somiaj | reev_: what do you mean by that. You want to run a script once? You want to run a script when your interface comes up this one time, or every time it comes up? |
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| 08:26.35 | reev_ | somiaj: I want to run a script when my interface comes up one time |
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| 08:28.03 | cmyers | ok this is weird - comparint g my other laptop to this one - the other laptop has empty config files for mkinitramfs just like my new one - but it correctly includes cryptsetup. I think the miknintramfs script must be doing some crazy detection that isn't working from inside the chroot |
| 08:28.13 | somiaj | reev_: what does one time mean? Just this once? Why not bring your interface up then just run the script? |
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| 08:28.29 | somiaj | reev_: as in if you need to do it once, why automate it? |
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| 08:30.01 | somiaj | anyways I'm not sure what you want to achive. You could do something silly like have the script run whenever the interface is brought up and create a file /somewhere/dontrunmeagain, then the script can check for this file and nicely exit if the file exists. And then if you ever want it to run again, delete that file. |
| 08:30.54 | reev_ | somiaj: i can try that |
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| 08:30.57 | reev_ | thanks btw |
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| 08:31.23 | somiaj | reev_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13963/call-script-after-connecting-to-a-wireless-network |
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| 08:31.43 | somiaj | again if you just need to run this once (and never again), seems like a lot of extra work to automate it |
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| 08:33.05 | rhalff | I'm trying to install libmono-windowsbase4.0-cil using the official debian docker image, but it cannot find the package. It seems the package is from main, any clues why it cannot be found? |
| 08:34.24 | reev_ | somiaj: thanks |
| 08:34.44 | somiaj | ,v libmono-windowsbase4.0-cil |
| 08:34.45 | judd | Package: libmono-windowsbase4.0-cil on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; wheezy: 2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; sid: 3.2.8+dfsg-10; jessie: 3.2.8+dfsg-10; stretch: 3.2.8+dfsg-10; experimental: 4.0.4.1+dfsg-1; experimental: 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-3 |
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| 08:35.10 | somiaj | rhalff: it is there, what are your sources.list like, or the output of apt-cache policy? |
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| 08:40.32 | rhalff | somiaj, https://bpaste.net/show/c9d277875709 |
| 08:41.17 | rhalff | apt-get install -y libmono-windowsbase4.0-cil returns E: Unable to locate package libmono-windowsbase4.0-cil |
| 08:41.21 | somiaj | rhalff: looks like apt-get update has not been run |
| 08:41.46 | somiaj | your sources.list looks fine, but in your policy you only have local packages, so apt does not know about any internet sources |
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| 08:43.18 | rhalff | somiaj, hm, ok, apt-get update is already called twice in the Dockerfile, but adding it again at a later step solves it, thanks. |
| 08:43.43 | somiaj | maybe you weren't on the internet when it was run before, or things not fully configured |
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| 08:46.59 | Genk1 | Hello guys, I am seeking an advice about how to manager dozen of server simultanousely. For example in the event of a system update I need to connect to each server and type : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in each console. |
| 08:48.34 | somiaj | Genk1: there is puppet and various other tools for such things |
| 08:48.44 | cart_man | somiaj: Unfortunately I am not having any luck with this screen... here is my command in the script -> screen -S ISOCK /home/debian/testprogram |
| 08:48.48 | somiaj | Genk1: unsure which one would be the best for your situation. |
| 08:48.52 | cart_man | but when I look for the screen process its just not there : ( |
| 08:48.58 | cart_man | its like it just does not start up |
| 08:49.11 | somiaj | cart_man: does that command run just fine from a terminal? |
| 08:49.17 | somiaj | !puppet |
| 08:49.18 | dpkg | Puppet is an open source configuration management tool for automating system administration tasks. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet #puppet on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:49.20 | cart_man | somiaj: Yes |
| 08:49.53 | somiaj | cart_man: check .xsession-errors, what DE are you using to run this script at start? |
| 08:50.01 | Genk1 | somiaj, hmm you mean puppet and chef as first choice ? I can write something on my own like a nagios plugin ? |
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| 08:50.55 | somiaj | Genk1: I don't know enough about the different tools to have much advise on which would do what. But those are the common ways people keep multiple servers configured the same way and run/apply changes/updates |
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| 08:51.55 | ftrhwk | Genk1: if you connect through ssh with keys, for few commands you could write a script that does just that with ssh |
| 08:51.56 | cart_man | where do I find those logs? |
| 08:53.05 | Genk1 | ftrhwk, Yes I was thinking about something similar, I hope to find some documentation about that. |
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| 08:53.37 | Genk1 | somiaj, your solution seems more professional without doubt, but I was looking for something personal and fun too ;) |
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| 08:58.04 | ftrhwk | Gank1: I create a bash array with server names, then iterate through it and run "ssh $var command" for every loop |
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| 08:58.29 | iam_debianian | hi |
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| 09:00.35 | iam_debianian | fbpanel cannot start! |
| 09:00.42 | iam_debianian | Creating profile 'default' at /home/os/.config/fbpanel/default |
| 09:00.45 | iam_debianian | Using /usr/share/fbpanel/default as template |
| 09:00.45 | iam_debianian | volume: can't open /dev/mixer |
| 09:00.47 | iam_debianian | HINT: Do you have ALSA-OSS emulation loaded? |
| 09:00.51 | iam_debianian | HINT: Check out for 'snd-mixer-oss' kernel module loaded. |
| 09:00.51 | iam_debianian | HINT: Or disable 'volume' plugin at ~/.config/fbpanel/default. |
| 09:00.51 | iam_debianian | fbpanel: can't start plugin volume |
| 09:01.50 | cart_man | somiaj: The xsession-errors log is really small |
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| 09:02.30 | cart_man | somiaj: There is 1 line though... [pulseaudio] main.c : This program is not intended to be run as root |
| 09:02.33 | cart_man | looks like drivers though |
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| 09:03.41 | novanauliazami | wuft |
| 09:03.41 | xingu | Genk1: take a look into pdsh |
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| 09:05.24 | Genk1 | xingu, ok thanks. |
| 09:06.01 | xingu | Genk1: and for orchestration, read up on http://pongasoft.github.io/glu/docs/latest/html/index.html |
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| 09:08.49 | Genk1 | xingu, oh this is valuable, thanks! |
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| 09:21.42 | cmyers | argh, ubuntu doesn't even give you the option to not install all of gnome + xorg without pulling some magic BS. FML so hard. I already miss debian =( |
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| 09:25.04 | epsilon | ack, I just installed ubuntu on a customers laptop - pain in the ass, the whole installation process was built for windows-dummies, I had to prepare with debian live cd first |
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| 09:26.20 | t0mthumb | that "windows-dummy" experience is why ubuntu became so popular |
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| 09:27.06 | t0mthumb | as long as more people move to linux, who cares |
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| 09:29.16 | Sendoushi | t0mthumb: true... |
| 09:29.23 | Sendoushi | i'm still having some issues with linux |
| 09:29.37 | Sendoushi | i really prefer to work in linux but there are some things... linux doesn't do right yet |
| 09:29.47 | Sendoushi | the issues with so many options and no standards |
| 09:30.03 | Sendoushi | for example. i still can't use my webcam with skype |
| 09:30.14 | Sendoushi | even tried to use a virtualbox with windows and not even like that |
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| 09:30.38 | Sendoushi | then the software issue... my industry works essentially with mac because of its software |
| 09:30.41 | Sendoushi | adobe, sketch... |
| 09:31.01 | Sendoushi | so i find myself too much time relying on a mac |
| 09:31.11 | t0mthumb | calligra, gimp, inkscape, etc |
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| 09:31.43 | Sendoushi | t0mthumb: none of those is a true solution. believe me I tried |
| 09:31.50 | Sendoushi | i have gimp installed in linux for quick stuff |
| 09:32.00 | Sendoushi | but as i stated not a solution |
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| 09:32.08 | Sendoushi | inkscape... same |
| 09:32.15 | t0mthumb | 1:1 replacement, no |
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| 09:32.35 | Sendoushi | not really 1:1 replacement |
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| 09:32.38 | t0mthumb | gimp is underrated anyway |
| 09:32.51 | Sendoushi | it is but believe me, as a designer, it doesnt compare to photoshop |
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| 09:33.01 | Sendoushi | the way you do stuff... |
| 09:33.08 | Sendoushi | you're just so much faster in photoshop |
| 09:33.13 | Sendoushi | and i'm not being an adobe fan |
| 09:33.21 | Sendoushi | i've been for years trying to leave adobe |
| 09:33.39 | Sendoushi | but it is all about the workflow |
| 09:33.54 | t0mthumb | you lack the zen mind =] |
| 09:33.57 | Sendoushi | the thing i like in linux for my dev is its workflow |
| 09:34.04 | Sendoushi | in design... nothing has achieved that yet |
| 09:34.05 | t0mthumb | it'll come around |
| 09:34.21 | Sendoushi | and then... your clients provide you with psd and sketch files not gimp files |
| 09:34.38 | t0mthumb | i feel the same regarding music production. have to reboot to osx |
| 09:34.40 | Sendoushi | even if i didnt prefer photoshop which i do |
| 09:35.13 | Sendoushi | t0mthumb: you can use ardour or reaper |
| 09:35.27 | Sendoushi | which are awesome but in the end... garageband is such a good solution |
| 09:35.33 | Sendoushi | and i talk about garageband not logic |
| 09:35.43 | Sendoushi | in windows there is cubase which is pretty cool too |
| 09:35.44 | t0mthumb | the thing you are forgetting is that linux needs some more force behind it before those other media production apps will provide native solutions |
| 09:36.07 | Sendoushi | exactly |
| 09:36.13 | Sendoushi | i really like linux and its freedom |
| 09:36.16 | t0mthumb | ardour isn't gonna replace studio one or logic anytime soon |
| 09:36.20 | Sendoushi | and had many issues with mac for the past years |
| 09:36.27 | Sendoushi | yep it won't |
| 09:36.41 | Sendoushi | the only solution in my point of view is for adobe and others do native for linux |
| 09:36.42 | t0mthumb | so, take linux for what it is |
| 09:36.47 | Sendoushi | but that won't happen anytime soon |
| 09:36.53 | Sendoushi | yep |
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| 09:37.07 | Sendoushi | i've been using it for dev but with my mac next to it |
| 09:37.10 | Sendoushi | which is kind of an absurd |
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| 09:45.03 | Sendoushi | it sucks... i would buy a thinkpad if it wasnt for this |
| 09:45.13 | Sendoushi | i still have to buy mac |
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| 09:49.11 | epsilon | i can understand, I used photoshop earlier, but it became too expensive and I moved to gimp. Was painful |
| 09:50.21 | t0mthumb | if you had learned gimp first, the opposite would apply. you learned photoshop because it has more exposure |
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| 09:52.07 | t0mthumb | the more that people use linux, the more exposure it gets. whether it's a "windows-dummy" distro or not |
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| 09:52.31 | epsilon | not really, I'm using gimp now for a while, but I would go back to photoshop if I had the choice |
| 09:53.15 | adamt | Has the systemd delegate option (mentioned here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-3352) been backported from systemd 218 to the 215 in debian stable? |
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| 10:13.07 | FlawlesS | forgot my nickserv pass... |
| 10:13.25 | ChrisH | freshclam started to complain yesterday: "freshclam[20785]: WARNING: Local version: 0.98.7 Recommended version: 0.99 |
| 10:14.13 | SynrGy | that's typical |
| 10:14.26 | SynrGy | an update will be available soon. meanwhile, ignore it |
| 10:14.34 | SynrGy | ,v freshclam |
| 10:14.36 | judd | No package named 'freshclam' was found in amd64. |
| 10:14.47 | ChrisH | ,v clamav-freshclam |
| 10:14.48 | judd | Package: clamav-freshclam on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; squeeze-security-lts: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb6u2; wheezy-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; wheezy: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; jessie: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch: 0.98.7+dfsg-4+b1; sid: 0.98.7+dfsg-5; experimental: 0.99~rc2+dfsg-2 |
| 10:15.06 | SynrGy | thanks |
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| 10:15.24 | SynrGy | the point being, it's received through jessie-updates |
| 10:15.37 | SynrGy | this is a volatile package (gets frequent updates) |
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| 10:15.58 | SynrGy | so long as you have jessie-updates enabled, when a new version is available, you'll be able to get it. but there isn't one yet now. usually takes a day or two |
| 10:16.32 | SynrGy | FlawlesS: see #freenode about that |
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| 10:17.13 | ChrisH | I did not find a bug report so far... but I assume it will make its way anyhow. If we expect it in a few days, I will not modify my logcheck settings. |
| 10:18.13 | SynrGy | it's useless (and annoying) to file bug reports for new versions of things that have only just been released. it's polite to wait a reasonable amount of time before filing one |
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| 10:29.10 | cart_man | Hi... I am running xterm from a script.. -> " xterm -e screen -r intsock " But it closes instantly after it opens... how do I keep it open? |
| 10:30.32 | Stummi | cart_man, open a terminal and type "screen -r intsock" - what happens? |
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| 10:31.28 | cart_man | Stummi: It opens up and does exactly what I wanted |
| 10:31.40 | cart_man | attaches a screen and then displays it |
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| 10:33.55 | SynrG | http://superuser.com/questions/363614/leave-xterm-open-after-task-is-complete |
| 10:34.05 | SynrG | xterm -hold -e screen -r intsock |
| 10:34.34 | SynrG | the problem here is that screen doesn't block. it executes, and then exits |
| 10:34.53 | Stummi | SynrG, I just searched that in the manpage. Funny how they can describe -hold without using "exit" and "close" ;) |
| 10:35.00 | SynrG | heh |
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| 11:25.49 | momomo | wtf, gnome 3 is showing my date and format in german |
| 11:26.15 | momomo | i can't change it .. but i had selected berling originally as the city i am in |
| 11:26.31 | momomo | the rest of the system is in english |
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| 11:33.21 | trewas | momomo: check what locale says, it has probably picked en_US for language and some sane format for dates (LC_TIME) based on the city |
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| 11:39.29 | ueber | hi there |
| 11:39.48 | ChunkzZ | hi |
| 11:39.50 | fes_ | hi |
| 11:40.29 | ueber | I need to execute a script at boot time, everything seems correct but it's not executed... |
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| 11:43.11 | SynrG | ueber: we're waiting for the rest of the explanation |
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| 11:43.23 | SynrG | (that's what your ellipsis implies :) |
| 11:43.30 | ueber | SynrG: :) |
| 11:43.45 | SynrG | you did what, exactly |
| 11:44.41 | ueber | the startup script is located on /etc/init.d/myscript.sh |
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| 11:45.03 | SynrG | ueber: anything more? |
| 11:45.06 | ueber | permissions are: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root |
| 11:45.17 | SynrG | that, in and of itself won't cause it to be executed |
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| 11:45.44 | ueber | now I try making a paste bin |
| 11:45.46 | SynrG | !init script |
| 11:45.47 | dpkg | /etc/init.d/ is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to /etc/init.d/myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <rc.local> <runlevel>. See also <missing lsb tags>. |
| 11:46.01 | SynrG | ueber: you're missing the 'update-rc.d' part. |
| 11:46.08 | SynrG | note that this is the old, deprecated way for sysvinit |
| 11:46.23 | SynrG | the new systemd way is using a unit file |
| 11:46.47 | SynrG | however, systemd-sysv provides compatibility with init scripts, so you may still use them. |
| 11:47.17 | ueber | here is my paste bin http://pastebin.com/UQ89VzNm |
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| 11:48.00 | SynrG | the actual content of the script is less important than what i just said. |
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| 11:48.15 | SynrG | but good, you have an LSB header |
| 11:48.50 | ueber | I used: chkconfig --add myscript |
| 11:49.26 | SynrG | er, chkconfig? what OS is this on? |
| 11:49.39 | ueber | Debian 8 |
| 11:49.50 | SynrG | ok. i see it's present ... it's just ... unusual :) |
| 11:49.57 | ueber | :) |
| 11:50.13 | SynrG | the description says "users coming from other Linux distributions will find the tools in this package more familiar" |
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| 11:50.27 | SynrG | update-rc.d is the way we do it |
| 11:50.41 | ueber | SynrG: ok then? |
| 11:51.05 | SynrG | well, depends on if that path in the script is accessible and the script has +X |
| 11:51.09 | SynrG | +x * |
| 11:51.33 | ueber | yes, sure |
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| 11:52.21 | SynrG | and that script is ok to run as root? |
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| 11:53.04 | ueber | yes |
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| 11:53.39 | SynrG | ls -l /etc/rc*/*importa* |
| 11:53.50 | SynrG | did your chkconfig tool make the right symlinks? |
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| 11:55.28 | SynrG | ueber: and look at the links in context. are your dependencies in the LSB header correct? will it start in the right sequence with other things? (like mysql itself?) |
| 11:55.53 | SynrG | i.e. check the assigned sequence# relative to the others |
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| 11:55.58 | elpidios | hiii |
| 11:55.59 | elpidios | anyone here? |
| 11:56.11 | towo^work | no |
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| 11:57.00 | ueber | SynrG: what do you mean? which dependencies? |
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| 11:57.29 | SynrG | ueber: systemd has a more natural, less hacky way to express it via "wants" |
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| 11:58.03 | SynrG | ueber: the LSB headers states the dependencies in those Required- statements |
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| 11:58.21 | SynrG | ueber: that's used in order to sequence the script correctly relative to other scripts |
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| 11:58.29 | SynrG | both for startup and shutdown |
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| 12:00.41 | ueber | SynrG: this script should be executed after mysql |
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| 12:02.21 | SynrG | read the insserv man page about those fields. also the Should- ones |
| 12:05.24 | Lionyx | hello guys! when i run pmount, all connected usb disks get mounted, but in read mode, i have to remount it as write mode. Is there any how to change this default behavior? |
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| 12:05.55 | SynrG | ueber: and examining other init scripts on your system, paying attention to those fields, and checking the assigned sequence numbers in /etc/rc*/ could be instructive. |
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| 12:07.25 | SynrG | ueber: e.g. egrep '(Should|Require).*mysql' /etc/init.d/* |
| 12:07.55 | SynrG | that shows that scripts depending on mysql to start first (or stop after) tend to declare that through the Should- fields |
| 12:07.59 | uefi | has anyone been able to get Debian to work on a HP UEFI based Laptop? |
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| 12:08.28 | SynrG | !anyone |
| 12:08.28 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 12:08.40 | fes_ | uefi: i used it on an elitebook 8440p |
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| 12:09.01 | uefi | fes_: were you able to dual boot? |
| 12:09.05 | uefi | with windows? |
| 12:09.23 | fes_ | uefi: yes certainly |
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| 12:09.46 | uefi | fes_: could you please point me to any guide/how-tos you may have referred to |
| 12:10.25 | ChunkzZ | uefi: little tip, create the ext4 and swap in a live cd then install to the desired drive. |
| 12:10.53 | ChunkzZ | I'm dual booting a little later, shouldn't be too hard. |
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| 12:12.18 | ueber | SynrG: here is my rc.d http://pastebin.com/hFmqefVF |
| 12:12.45 | uefi | well, i got fed up, and removed windows entirely, the Debian-Installer's UEFI Avatar ran and completed the install, however, upon reboot, i still have to get into UEFI options and select the debian efi (sorry for being inaccurate) to be able to boot |
| 12:13.05 | uefi | i have UEFI Boot set to UEFI Hybrid(CSM) |
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| 12:13.22 | ChunkzZ | windows first > then debian. |
| 12:13.30 | SynrG | ueber: they have identical sequence numbers, which implies no dependency relationship |
| 12:13.40 | SynrG | ueber: not shocking, since you didn't state one in the LSB header |
| 12:13.55 | ChunkzZ | uefi: I have a windows desktop with a uefi board, I disabled it though. |
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| 12:14.06 | SynrG | ueber: so in the header, add both Should-Start: mysql and Should-Stop: mysql |
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| 12:14.09 | ChunkzZ | it's really not that hard mate. |
| 12:14.23 | ChunkzZ | anyway, afk. |
| 12:14.35 | fes_ | uefi: tbh it just worked out of the box.... |
| 12:14.36 | SynrG | ueber: then you'll have to re-execute chkconfig (sorry, i don't know the command to update ... maybe just 'update'? consult the doc for your preferred tool :) |
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| 12:15.04 | ueber | SynrG: here is latest boot script http://pastebin.com/UQ89VzNm |
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| 12:15.15 | fes_ | uefi: but i think on this notebook the uefi implementation does´nt feature secureboot |
| 12:15.41 | ueber | SynrG: please edit it |
| 12:16.14 | SynrG | ueber: why are you saying it needs $named? |
| 12:16.15 | uefi | ChunkzZ: yeah that used to work for ages, windows then linux, but its becoming a pain these days. Heres what i did, first i turned off fastboot from UEFI & Windows, then i disabled Secureboot from UEFI, then i set the boot mode to UEFI Hybrid(with CSM), then installed Debian testing...it installed fine, but GRUB didn't show up upon reboot, it went straight to windows |
| 12:17.02 | ueber | SynrG: please fix it with correct ones |
| 12:17.09 | SynrG | ueber: no. you need to learn this stuff and not just have people do it for you. i think the man page i referred you to is self-explanatory .. |
| 12:17.18 | SynrG | and i already said above exactly what to add |
| 12:17.27 | ueber | SynrG: sure, I'll learn from example |
| 12:18.08 | ueber | please be patient, if I had no problem I didn't ask |
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| 12:18.41 | SynrG | ueber: in any case, as i said, you'll want to study how systemd does things, as it's easier to grasp, i think. |
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| 12:19.14 | ueber | Should-Start: $mysql ? |
| 12:19.24 | SynrG | no. i told you exactly |
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| 12:20.28 | SynrG | only special system facilities start with '$' (which the insserv man page explains) |
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| 12:20.37 | SynrG | if you want to name a specific script, you don't use '$' |
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| 12:21.10 | SynrG | [08:14:06] <SynrG> ueber: so in the header, add both Should-Start: mysql and Should-Stop: mysql |
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| 12:21.49 | Genk1 | Hi again! any good new documentation about how to write init script (/etc/init.d/*) ? |
| 12:22.20 | SynrG | write a systemd unit file instead and save yourself a lot of grief |
| 12:22.33 | uefi | windows 10 that came preinstalled, doesn't boot in legacy mode. i eventually installed debian on the whole disk, and this time it was the Debian-Installer with UEFI, but after reboot i now end up at the "HP PC Hardware Diagnostics UEFI" page, i have to work my way around this to, go into "Boot Options" , then select "Boot from EFI File" and then navigate to grubx64.efi to be able to boot into Debian |
| 12:22.52 | Genk1 | SynrG, hmm ok |
| 12:23.13 | Genk1 | SynrG, thanks |
| 12:23.27 | SynrG | man systemd.unit |
| 12:23.31 | SynrG | a good place to start :) |
| 12:23.46 | Genk1 | nothing better I guess |
| 12:23.50 | Genk1 | :) |
| 12:24.31 | SynrG | ueber: you should take note as well, as this is really easier than writing init scripts |
| 12:24.51 | SynrG | more compact, harder to screw up |
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| 12:27.22 | cart_man | Hey I have changed my environment variable $PATH ... how do I change it back to the default one? |
| 12:27.39 | SirLagz | cart_man: remove whatever you added? |
| 12:27.47 | cart_man | Can not remember what PATH use to be |
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| 12:28.11 | SirLagz | cart_man: how did you change it? |
| 12:28.19 | cart_man | So every command I try and run now just says /usr/bin/env : No such file or directory |
| 12:28.24 | cart_man | SirLagz: With a script |
| 12:28.25 | cart_man | :( |
| 12:28.36 | SirLagz | cart_man: if you log out and back in, does it stay the same? |
| 12:28.40 | cart_man | yeap |
| 12:28.42 | cart_man | rebooted |
| 12:28.57 | SirLagz | cart_man: what's in ~/.bashrc ? |
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| 12:29.38 | calimero_82 | hi guys |
| 12:29.44 | SirLagz | calimero_82: hi |
| 12:29.57 | cart_man | SirLagz: Permission denied ...im root wtf? |
| 12:30.46 | SirLagz | cart_man: are you trying to change the PATH variable of the root user or of your user? |
| 12:30.59 | cart_man | root ... I am root always |
| 12:31.02 | cart_man | for testing purposes |
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| 12:31.10 | calimero_82 | guys a question: i use debian 8.2, isn't reccomanded to use ppa? thanks |
| 12:31.28 | SirLagz | calimero_82: PPA aren't a Debian thing last I checked |
| 12:31.50 | SirLagz | cart_man: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" <-- that's my default root path variable if you want to use that |
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| 12:31.57 | SynrG | calimero_82: absolutely don't mix distros. you will end up with an unsupportable system |
| 12:31.59 | SirLagz | cart_man: not sure why you're getting access denied though. |
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| 12:32.13 | SirLagz | cart_man: can you pastebin the exact command you're running? |
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| 12:32.15 | SynrG | calimero_82: what software do you want on debian? |
| 12:32.28 | calimero_82 | calibre |
| 12:32.35 | calimero_82 | and acestream |
| 12:33.01 | SirLagz | calimero_82: the EReader calibre? |
| 12:33.09 | calimero_82 | yes |
| 12:33.23 | SirLagz | calimero_82: what's wrong with the version in the Repos? |
| 12:33.28 | SynrG | calimero_82: debian has calibre. if you want an up-to-date calibre and find debian lags behind too much, just use upstream's instructions to install. |
| 12:33.55 | SynrG | calimero_82: it will install into /opt, and then you can fetch updates as needed |
| 12:34.20 | SynrG | calimero_82: however, that's not supported by us, and if the debian version suits you fine, just use that, which is |
| 12:34.23 | calimero_82 | sorry guys it's the 2 time i use debian |
| 12:34.38 | SynrG | ,v calibre |
| 12:34.39 | judd | Package: calibre on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.7+dfsg-1squeeze1; wheezy: 0.8.51+dfsg1-0.1; wheezy-backports: 1.22.0+dfsg1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 2.5.0+dfsg-1; stretch: 2.38.0+dfsg-1; sid: 2.45.0+dfsg-1 |
| 12:34.50 | SynrG | calimero_82: is 2.5.0 good enough for your purposes? |
| 12:34.55 | calimero_82 | yes |
| 12:35.19 | SynrG | as for acestream, i don't know it. what does it do? |
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| 12:35.24 | r00t-err0r | ,v sqlmap |
| 12:35.25 | judd | Package: sqlmap on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6.4-1; sid: 0.9.151117-1; stretch: 0.9.151117-1 |
| 12:35.28 | SynrG | you might be able to use some alterantive |
| 12:35.31 | SynrG | alternative* |
| 12:36.51 | calimero_82 | but guys do if I'm looking for software that is not present in the repository , I have to proceed only with the installation manual , and not with the PPP ? thank you |
| 12:37.01 | calimero_82 | ppa |
| 12:38.01 | SynrG | calimero_82: sometimes third-party software is provided specifically for debian as a repo from upstream |
| 12:38.20 | SynrG | but PPAs are an ubuntu thing and using one means distro mixing, which is bad |
| 12:38.24 | SynrG | !frankendebian |
| 12:38.24 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 12:38.53 | SynrG | calimero_82: usually, i try to find an alternative that debian supports. that often is the case. |
| 12:39.26 | SynrG | calimero_82: when it's unavailable, then it's build from source (or use upstream's installer, though you have to be careful and understand what things the installer does) |
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| 12:41.40 | calimero_82 | the official repositories are 6 in debian stable 8.2? |
| 12:42.17 | calimero_82 | i'm watching the list.d file |
| 12:42.23 | SynrG | calimero_82: pardon? |
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| 12:43.42 | calimero_82 | in sources.list there are 6 repo-file? |
| 12:44.10 | SynrG | Too cryptic. I don't know what you mean. |
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| 12:44.51 | SynrG | calimero_82: show the file at paste.debian.net if you want us to confirm it is correct |
| 12:46.24 | SynrG | There is nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ by default, though some Debian tools (like synaptic) may put manually added entries there |
| 12:47.10 | SynrG | Show us the contents of that dir (if not empty) and /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 12:52.32 | Lionyx | what does the power management on Debian? I mean. I used to think it was my kde or gnome. But I'm using only tty and screen goes blank after a while just like on X. |
| 12:53.02 | nils_ | will we see linux 4.3 in stretch/jessie-backports? |
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| 12:53.59 | SynrG | nils_: not until after it hits testing |
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| 12:54.43 | SynrG | And then only as the kernel team sees fit. i.e. there are no guarantees even then, but probably yes |
| 12:56.11 | nils_ | it fixes a few critical bugs for me but I don't want to continue to roll my own kernel for months. |
| 12:56.28 | calimero_82 | http://paste.debian.net/340582/ SynrG |
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| 12:57.15 | SynrG | calimero_82: That is correct |
| 12:57.24 | calimero_82 | so are 6 right? |
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| 12:57.54 | SynrG | Yes. But i was left wondering "which six"? |
| 12:58.04 | calimero_82 | :D sorry |
| 12:58.10 | SynrG | But your paste makes it clear. Thanks |
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| 13:02.25 | rozie | nils_: did you try to install existing version from experimental? |
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| 13:02.55 | jelly | hi, what's the simplest way to make a cron job run on second workday of the month? |
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| 13:03.37 | jelly | ignoring national or bank holidays for practical purposes |
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| 13:07.04 | julius | hi |
| 13:07.44 | calimero_82 | SynrG : also u have only these 6? |
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| 13:08.14 | julius | on http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux#Debian you are advised to add: deb https://people.debian.org/~rbalint/ppa/xbmc-ffmpeg xbmc-ffmpeg-unstable/ and deb http://http.debian.net/debian unstable main to sources, but wouldnt that upgrade all my apps to unstable...not just kodie? |
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| 13:08.24 | SynrG | calimero_82: others are available with official support, e.g. backports |
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| 13:09.00 | SynrG | calimero_82: Also there are the contrib and non-free archive areas |
| 13:09.00 | markybob | jelly, cron doesn't support that kind of determination. you'll have to script it |
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| 13:09.25 | nils_ | rozie, no I did not, I built my own since there was a patch that I wanted to try as well |
| 13:09.29 | SynrG | calimero_82: depending on which system of mine, they may have these extras |
| 13:09.45 | calimero_82 | i have 8.2 jessie |
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| 13:10.18 | SynrG | calimero_82: i mean which physical system. Each has different needs |
| 13:10.41 | calimero_82 | ah ok |
| 13:10.49 | calimero_82 | bye guys thanks a lot |
| 13:10.57 | SynrG | Later |
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| 13:12.26 | Sisco | How can I run ventrilo_srv at bootup? '/root/ventsrv/ventrilo_srv -d' |
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| 13:19.13 | Brigo | Sisco, you need to make a systemd unit file and add it to the proper target |
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| 13:22.14 | arount | Hi there, I've a question I do not realy know where to ask. It's about bash, I'm writting a script and I would like to manage output redirection of commands with a variable, by example: loglevel="2> /dev/null"; foo=$(bar $loglevel) |
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| 13:22.38 | arount | But it seems than bash do not compute value of string when using $(<command> $loglevel) |
| 13:22.47 | arount | there is a way to do something like that ? |
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| 13:41.32 | Myrkur | Hi guys I have a user having a problem with apt-get update |
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| 13:41.52 | Myrkur | he got this err W: Failed to fetch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/InRelease |
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| 13:42.13 | Myrkur | I wanted to know if it may be because of our network or because of his own configuration |
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| 13:43.32 | lroe | I'm trying to build tcpdump from source (using the source repo) but I need to you my compiled version of libpcap. when I try to buildpackage I get an error about libpcap having an unmet dependency. Any help? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/c0d45f9e/ |
| 13:43.48 | Swing | q |
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| 13:45.17 | ChrisH | ,v tcpdump |
| 13:45.18 | judd | Package: tcpdump on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.1.1-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4.1.1-1+deb6u2; wheezy-security: 4.3.0-1+deb7u2; wheezy: 4.3.0-1+deb7u2; jessie: 4.6.2-5+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 4.7.4-1~bpo8+1; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 4.7.4-1~bpo70+1; sid: 4.7.4-1+b1; stretch: 4.7.4-1+b1 |
| 13:46.17 | ChrisH | lroe: why do you want to build from source instead of using the package? |
| 13:46.49 | lroe | ChrisH, I am using PF_Ring and libpcap needs to be built against the pfring kernel module |
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| 13:47.15 | lroe | ChrisH, http://www.ntop.org/products/packet-capture/pf_ring/ |
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| 13:48.52 | ntz | hello |
| 13:49.46 | ntz | one question, can anybody check here http://susepaste.org/view/raw/49705069 creating a br1 ? I didn't have an opportunity to test it, but will it properly initialize a bridge after reboot like that ? |
| 13:50.03 | ntz | `iface br1 inet manual' scares me a bit |
| 13:50.37 | ntz | what I need is that eth1 is up (if required) and br1 is up after reboot |
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| 13:51.13 | ntz | I don't need other than one public ip there, so br1 is without ip deliberately |
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| 13:56.40 | shawn | Ntz you went through all that trouble hiding your public IP from the log, but you didn't hide it from IRC |
| 13:56.48 | shawn | :P |
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| 14:00.33 | jelly | ntz: I've never tried doing bridge-utils-interfaces specific lines in an inte manual stanza, are you sure that works at all? |
| 14:00.42 | jelly | inet* manual |
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| 14:01.30 | jelly | ntz: I mean, does it create a br1 if you do an "ifup br1" right now? |
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| 14:06.49 | dupingping | hi everybody. |
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| 14:07.51 | dupingping | i want to know how to build debian distro image from source packages. Who can help me know about it? |
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| 14:08.33 | markybob | dupingping, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
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| 14:09.47 | Tordek | hi, I'm having some weird issues... for onr, I installed SDDM, but nothing happens. sddm starts and I see a background, but no login screen. not even when setting up an autologin |
| 14:10.01 | markybob | dupingping, you should probably know how to google if you want to do that |
| 14:10.38 | dupingping | markybob: yes, i googled for it. |
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| 14:10.56 | dupingping | so got none result. |
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| 14:12.44 | dupingping | markybob: it just shows me how to build cd image from binary packages. |
| 14:12.50 | ntz | shawn: it's different ip ;) |
| 14:13.05 | ntz | shawn: that one ends with 44 |
| 14:13.33 | ntz | jelly: to be honest I don't dare to try it |
| 14:13.42 | dupingping | I wanted to know how to build binary packages automatically from those source packages. |
| 14:13.53 | ntz | because it's living in prod and under the load right now |
| 14:13.58 | jelly | ntz: this is what we have test and development machines for! |
| 14:13.59 | markybob | dupingping, that's how it works. you can build individual binary packages from sources and then include your own binaries |
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| 14:14.25 | ntz | jelly: fair enough, i've got your point |
| 14:15.15 | dupingping | markybob: yes, there is no tools for calculate dependencies of source packages, so decide what is the package should be built at first and what is the package is next? |
| 14:15.56 | ntz | jelly: iirc, that `..... inet manual' is requirement for that the bridge is without the ip address and up I think .... I wanted to confirm this |
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| 14:16.25 | ntz | and yes, I should have a debian testing machine |
| 14:16.53 | ntz | which I don't have ...... (because normally I'm trying to not cross a debian path .... hehe) |
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| 14:17.45 | shawn | dupingping: man apt-build, I think "apt-build world" might be along the lines of what you want |
| 14:17.47 | markybob | dupingping, i don't see your point. you don't need that to build a custom distro. |
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| 14:18.15 | dupingping | http://askubuntu.com/questions/704868/ubuntu-source-package-dependency-tree |
| 14:18.30 | dupingping | shawn, markybob, please read my question. |
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| 14:18.40 | dupingping | that's more detail. |
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| 14:19.59 | jelly | ntz: wild-ass guess is that won't work at all, but who knows |
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| 14:20.38 | shawn | dupingping: I read it and now I have no idea what you're asking anymore xD |
| 14:20.50 | zetheroo | what the command to start a browser in fullscreen mode? |
| 14:21.00 | markybob | dupingping, i read it and also have no idea what you're asking |
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| 14:21.15 | dupingping | shawn, markybob I see, thank you. |
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| 14:21.53 | markybob | !nl |
| 14:21.53 | dpkg | Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl. |
| 14:21.57 | markybob | maybe that's the problem |
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| 14:24.04 | shawn | Oooh |
| 14:24.34 | shawn | Wait I lost it |
| 14:24.46 | shawn | So close |
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| 14:26.22 | Myrkur | I'm having an issue updating with apt-get update |
| 14:26.35 | Myrkur | I get Step 8 : RUN apt-get update > /dev/null ---> Running in abf5baab5d59 |
| 14:26.42 | Myrkur | W: Failed to fetch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/InRelease |
| 14:26.49 | Myrkur | any idea ? |
| 14:26.57 | Myrkur | maybe it's my university network? |
| 14:27.15 | markybob | Myrkur, pastebin your sources.list |
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| 14:28.04 | markybob | Myrkur, you failed to fetch it because http://ftp-chi.osuosl.org/debian/dists/jessie/InRelease doesn't exist |
| 14:28.56 | markybob | or any mirror /debian/dists/jessie/InRelease |
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| 14:29.27 | Myrkur | It works well at home usually it's only at uni that it doesn't work |
| 14:29.36 | markybob | Myrkur, it's geo-ip stuff...doesn't matter. pastebin your sources |
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| 15:07.19 | transhuman | getting error due to missing library in glib symbol lookup error libORBit-2.so.0 undefined symbol g_mutex_new is there a fix this is on debian-8 |
| 15:07.35 | transhuman | looks like they removed g_mutex_new, I need it for a wine applicatoin |
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| 15:21.16 | n8w | how to permanently set locale variable LC_ALL to none? The OS keeps assignin this variable which leads to preventin my custom LC types to be applied |
| 15:22.18 | somiaj | n8w: does dpkg-reconfigure locales work? |
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| 15:22.52 | somiaj | though unsure what is setting it, LC_ALL is blank on my systems |
| 15:22.57 | n8w | somiaj, ive done it, but doesnt change anythin |
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| 15:23.30 | n8w | somiaj, ye it should b blank in my case too...i cant figure out whats settin it either |
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| 15:24.13 | toli | I tried to boot my mips machine using u-boot and jessie for mips, but seems, I can only boot with fatload usb 0 $loadaddr vmlinux and it does not support ext3? |
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| 15:27.01 | mikkemus9 | barolo pvedaemon[275950]: authentication failure; rhost=10.8.0.52 user=dag@LDAP msg=can't open '/etc/pve/pve-www.key' - No such file or directory |
| 15:27.08 | mikkemus9 | why does pvedaemon look for that file |
| 15:27.23 | mikkemus9 | when i try to login on proxmox web interface |
| 15:27.36 | mikkemus9 | tls is working fine with cert and key in /etc/pve/local |
| 15:27.42 | awal1 | Guys, which software you use for streaming/broadcasting, line/non live? I'm looking for something similar to 'open broadcaster software', present in debian repos |
| 15:27.53 | awal1 | live ^ |
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| 15:28.20 | bazhang | ,v vlc |
| 15:28.21 | judd | Package: vlc on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; sid: 2.2.1-5+b1; stretch: 2.2.1-5+b1; wheezy-multimedia: |
| 15:28.22 | judd | 1:2.0.6-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo1+cve1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo11 |
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| 16:08.21 | teraflops | awal1: you can stream video with icecast2+ogv too, VOD also supported with a little tweak |
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| 16:09.50 | ntz | hmm |
| 16:09.57 | ntz | debian installer is here righ now surprisingly slow .... using netinstall but it takes rather long |
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| 16:13.05 | BlessJah | 1 |
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| 16:14.53 | awal1 | teraflops: ok. i'll look at that pack. thanks |
| 16:15.04 | teraflops | awal1: np |
| 16:15.47 | Veidit | Hi, I have a brand new install of Debian 8, I am trying to install python-virtualenv but it tries to install python3.4.... But the package info says that it's for python 2. What could I have done wrong? |
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| 16:17.23 | teraflops | hmm I have an icecast using client certificates auth through a reverse proxy, it works ok but only for web playing, I cant find a single player that deals with certificates |
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| 16:22.51 | transhuman | glib no longer has g_mutex_new is there a way to get this back in debian 8 for a wine application? |
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| 16:23.16 | Amarande | well, maybe I can at least see about my desktop woes on debian on this laptop ... |
| 16:23.35 | Amarande | every other channel relevant to things I'm doing right now seems to be "registered to talk" on and services are down, dagnabbit. :) |
| 16:23.41 | Amarande | aaaanyway |
| 16:24.04 | Amarande | seem to be having some desktop issues since I set up debian on this machine. worked fine till I went to set up X, of course |
| 16:24.29 | Amarande | KDE starts painfully slow (maybe it's just too much for a dual core laptop, even a good i5 thinkpad?), and then chromium gets stuck with an empty window and "page unresponsive" |
| 16:24.38 | Amarande | (although on the other hand kgpg did manage to create keys just fine, heh) |
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| 16:25.02 | Amarande | cinnamon, on the other hand, all I get is a prompt to enter the Wi-Fi password & then "cinnamon has crashed, would you like to restart it" endlessly |
| 16:25.24 | Amarande | (also debian claims my battery is broken, Ubuntu never said that ...) |
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| 16:29.54 | awal1 | Amarande: do you have a question? |
| 16:30.44 | awal1 | oh, he left yet :D |
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| 16:37.44 | n-st | hi, i'm trying to use apt pinning to install three distinct packages from unstable while remaining on jessie with everything else. for some reason, `apt-get dist-upgrade` only upgraded two of the packages, but doesn't mention the third, graphite-web: http://pastebin.com/8DWgAwre |
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| 16:38.33 | n-st | my apt preferences look like this: http://pastebin.com/VFRJj0P2 |
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| 16:45.44 | shawn | N-st you're most likely doing it wrong if you're trying to pin them |
| 16:45.44 | shawn | Why can't you backport them? |
| 16:45.50 | shawn | !tell n-st about sib |
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| 16:46.27 | n-st | shawn: looks like !tell didn't work ;) |
| 16:46.27 | shawn | !tell n-st about ssb |
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| 16:47.08 | shawn | It was a typo |
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| 16:47.40 | n-st | shawn: i probably could backport them, but i'd like to avoid the manual work and build dependencies that would require |
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| 16:48.19 | shawn | If you use mk-build-deps in devscripts it will make a metapackage for the build deps |
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| 16:49.01 | n-st | shawn: i'd still have to install a bunch of additional packages on every system where i want to use to newer package versions, right? |
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| 16:49.59 | n-st | the ones i need (graphite-carbon graphite-web python-whisper) only depend on python, so they shouldn't require rebuilding for older environments. so why not just use the unstable repo? |
| 16:50.05 | shawn | You don't need to install the build deps on the other systems, you can deploy the resulting backported debs on other systems and retrieve the dependencies with "apt-get install -f" |
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| 16:50.49 | n-st | shawn: i'd rather have a self-contained solution, though… |
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| 16:51.06 | Aebian | Sony Xperia Z2 // Android 5.1.1 // MTP not Working on Debian 8.2 any Ideas? lsusb is: Bus 003 Device 012: ID 0fce:51af Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB // also tried mtp://[003,012] |
| 16:51.27 | shawn | N-st and a .dev |
| 16:51.35 | shawn | .deb isn't self contained? |
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| 16:52.20 | shawn | You could download all the dependencies and deploy them along with it if the other systems didn't have reasonable access to apt |
| 16:52.24 | n-st | shawn: it won't be updated automatically if i manually build, copy, and install a .deb |
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| 16:53.02 | shawn | Once you get setup it is only once command to build it again |
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| 16:53.47 | n-st | use case: an ansible playbook that installs and configures everything required for a grafana monitoring stack. it shouldn't have any requirements on the local system and shouldn't have to install a full build environment on the server it's configuring… |
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| 16:54.25 | socomm | Anytime anyone says 'playbook' or 'runbook' I die alittle on the inside. |
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| 16:54.47 | n-st | socomm: blame the ansible developers. what's the problem with that, though? |
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| 16:54.57 | socomm | n-st: Heh. |
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| 16:55.20 | l0xas__ | what is going on?? |
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| 16:56.08 | n-st | l0xas__: i'm resisting the suggestion to manually backport packages instead of using apt pinning to install them directly from unstable |
| 16:56.51 | SynrGy | n-st: do so at your peril. it won't be supported if/when it breaks |
| 16:56.53 | shawn | Pinning is discouraged. It's not meant for that it's meant to hold packages from being updated |
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| 16:57.41 | shawn | It can do that technically but it's one of those "just because you can doesn't mean you should" things |
| 16:57.43 | n-st | shawn: but isn't there already a separate mechanism for holding packages? |
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| 16:58.14 | socomm | n-st: pinning is the mechanism for holding packages |
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| 16:58.34 | n-st | shawn: as for it being technically possible: it seems like the pinning is behaving inconsistently for me… |
| 16:58.35 | SynrGy | this is all besides the point. we discourage it because it leads to unsupportable & broken systems. |
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| 16:59.25 | lemondom | hi |
| 16:59.39 | socomm | ehlo |
| 16:59.41 | lemondom | Can atom io editor run in xorg? |
| 16:59.46 | lemondom | on linux |
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| 16:59.52 | socomm | lemondom: Yes. |
| 17:00.00 | lemondom | cool |
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| 17:00.08 | socomm | lemondom: Don't they have a linux binary available? |
| 17:00.09 | lemondom | so just install xorg, some dm and then install atom io? |
| 17:00.10 | lemondom | cool |
| 17:00.12 | lemondom | hmm |
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| 17:00.16 | lemondom | but they still need xorg? |
| 17:00.17 | socomm | lemondom: Yes. |
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| 17:00.33 | socomm | lemondom: Atom is GUI editor, so ..... |
| 17:00.35 | SynrGy | x clients do not need an x server on the same host to be runnable |
| 17:00.39 | SynrGy | so no |
| 17:00.40 | n-st | shawn: assuming i were to backport the package — is there a way to do that automatically when updates become available? |
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| 17:00.54 | lemondom | SynrGy: so only the graphics drivers are needed? |
| 17:01.00 | SynrGy | not even that |
| 17:01.05 | lemondom | n-st: hm, I would use something like a version bade in a github like repo? |
| 17:01.08 | SynrGy | ssh -X hostname xeyes |
| 17:01.11 | lemondom | cool |
| 17:01.18 | SynrGy | xeyes can be installed on hostname, but no X server running there |
| 17:01.20 | lemondom | xming being the xeyes for windows, right? |
| 17:01.26 | SynrGy | only the connecting host needs the X server |
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| 17:01.50 | lemondom | aha |
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| 17:01.52 | lemondom | cool |
| 17:01.58 | SynrGy | if you have xming on windows, and ssh -X to a linux host that has atom.io on it, yes, you can run it that way |
| 17:02.08 | lemondom | so for local-local / vm connections then this kind of connection is efficient enough? |
| 17:02.13 | SynrGy | just do that from an xming xterm |
| 17:02.14 | lemondom | can it show everything, including raster? |
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| 17:02.45 | socomm | lemondom: What is your set-up? |
| 17:02.58 | lemondom | socomm: debian jessie x64 on a vmware vm |
| 17:03.01 | socomm | You plan on running atom over the network? |
| 17:03.02 | lemondom | and windows hypervisor |
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| 17:03.10 | lemondom | no, locally, but I want to develop with linux |
| 17:03.25 | socomm | Locally being a Debian box? |
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| 17:03.54 | socomm | Why not just install Atom locally? |
| 17:04.22 | lemondom | good question, I want to run all the debug tools in the vm instead because installing this on windows is very cumbersome |
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| 17:04.35 | socomm | Most people make changes on the workstation, commit changes to their version control system, and then push to production/dev environment. |
| 17:04.43 | SynrGy | socomm: locally being a windows box, apparently |
| 17:05.09 | SynrGy | and technically atom *would* be run 'remotely' (ssh -X'd from the local windows host to the 'remote' linux running atom) |
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| 17:05.21 | SynrGy | at least that's my understanding of lemondom's setup |
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| 17:05.23 | socomm | SynrGy: Right. |
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| 17:05.34 | lemondom | yes |
| 17:05.36 | lemondom | I try that now |
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| 17:06.53 | SynrGy | wb, Services :) |
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| 17:07.25 | lemondom | test |
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| 17:08.06 | socomm | lemondom: I mean if you wanted to you could run 'seamless' mode with virtualbox. |
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| 17:08.10 | shawn | n-st yes i am sure it would be trivial to automate, whatever language you know the best. it could be done in bash quite easily, you could just ask apt if there is a new version and if there is do the compile. that could be cron job |
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| 17:08.28 | lemondom | socomm: ah right - but only with xorg server and dm on the vm itself, right? |
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| 17:08.49 | lemondom | hm, is using seamless or a vnc more consistent than xwindow? I like this xwindow approach because it uses metainfo for drawing |
| 17:08.56 | lemondom | so it is more efficient - vector instead raster, right? |
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| 17:21.45 | tite12345 | Hi |
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| 17:28.54 | rypervenche | Does the netinstaller work for UEFI on Debian? |
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| 17:29.29 | shawn | Yes |
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| 17:30.50 | rypervenche | Cool, thank you. |
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| 17:34.10 | armin | i noticed several problems with the installer in cases where only ipv6 is available, btw. |
| 17:34.50 | armin | pretty hard to investigate obviously, for someone who just uses the installer to, uhm, install. |
| 17:35.07 | armin | but i really ended up configuring ipv4 afterall |
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| 17:36.39 | somiaj | armin: on irc.oftc.net there is #debian-installer and #debian-boot, I don't know which is the appropriate one to bring this comment to. |
| 17:37.52 | armin | somiaj: probably the first one. thanks a lot. |
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| 17:57.17 | SOUL_OF_R00T | hello great guys iam an entusast of a free software at some time, now i am meding some experiences with my debian box and arduino any have tips for me, at moment i am mading one energy monitor described in openenergymonitor.org website some have a tip for me ? |
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| 17:58.46 | somiaj | what is arduino? |
| 17:59.14 | mi11k1 | opensource hardware platform |
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| 17:59.56 | somiaj | ahh one of those mini computer cards. |
| 18:00.04 | mi11k1 | microcontroller |
| 18:00.08 | SynrGy | i'm not sensing a debian question in this |
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| 18:00.51 | mi11k1 | hey, im trying to make a remote serial port appear local, i so far had some success with mkfifo arduino_fifo; nc -lk -p 2111 <arduino.fifo | plink -serial /dev/ttyUSB0 -sercfg 115200,8,n,1,n >arduino.fifo |
| 18:01.08 | mi11k1 | than on local side just netcat 2111 |
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| 18:02.40 | mi11k1 | and tried some variations on local side, like netcat 2111 > ttyUSB0, but program doesnt recognoze it as a serial port |
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| 18:04.02 | cluelessperson | Question, what does it take to update the owncloud repository to current version? |
| 18:04.16 | cluelessperson | Debian's repo is at 7.0.9, whereas Owncloud is at 8.2.1 |
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| 18:04.43 | greycat | ,v owncloud |
| 18:04.45 | judd | Package: owncloud on amd64 -- jessie: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u3; jessie-security: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u3; stretch: 7.0.11~dfsg-1; sid: 7.0.11~dfsg-1 |
| 18:04.45 | mi11k1 | github |
| 18:04.53 | cra1g321 | think owncloud has their own repos |
| 18:05.07 | greycat | Just install the upstream software instead of Debian's. |
| 18:05.18 | mi11k1 | i saw ubuntu removed because of a security thing i think |
| 18:06.12 | cra1g321 | https://download.owncloud.org/download/repositories/stable/owncloud/ |
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| 18:20.53 | tite12345 | Is Package Updater and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade the same? |
| 18:21.13 | tite12345 | Is there a better way or what's the best way to do the expected full system update? |
| 18:21.31 | tite12345 | I expect apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to do the job, but is there a better way? |
| 18:21.35 | tite12345 | Is Package Updater enough? |
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| 18:21.46 | tite12345 | Is it also the same as apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
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| 18:24.22 | somiaj | What is Package Updater? |
| 18:25.50 | markybob | i assume update-manager-gnome |
| 18:26.04 | somiaj | I do not recongize anything by the name of "Package Updater" in debian? Or are you talking about the gnome package tool? Or are you talking about update-notifier/gnome-packagekit? |
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| 18:27.42 | SynrGy | /usr/share/applications/gpk-update-viewer.desktop:Name=Package Updater |
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| 18:27.54 | chaospsychex | I'm downloading "debian-8.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso". I'm wondering if DVD's 2&3 are required to complete the installation or are they just additional software/pkds ? |
| 18:27.55 | SynrGy | this ^ |
| 18:28.04 | greycat | !netinst |
| 18:28.04 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 18:28.21 | greycat | Why why why why do people download full DVD images... |
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| 18:28.43 | chaospsychex | greycat, because no everyone on this planet has broadband connectivity! |
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| 18:28.51 | chaospsychex | have logic ? |
| 18:28.53 | transhuman | chaospsychex, first only or netimage |
| 18:28.53 | greycat | 90% of the FIRST DVD image is extra packages unnecessary to complete a vanilla installation. |
| 18:28.55 | chaospsychex | 0.0 |
| 18:28.57 | chaospsychex | o.0\ |
| 18:29.14 | markybob | chaospsychex, it takes more bandwidth to download full cds/dvds... so no |
| 18:29.23 | chaospsychex | i'm trying to setup a debian development station that is offline |
| 18:29.48 | chaospsychex | markybob, yes but not my bandwidth. i'm downloading the dvd's then i go home and install |
| 18:29.53 | greycat | Well, you'll need a net connection during the install to apply security updates, and periodically thereafter for the same purpose. |
| 18:30.05 | chaospsychex | greycat, no i do not |
| 18:30.11 | greycat | OK, sneakernetting a DVD from work to home is a valid reason. |
| 18:30.22 | greycat | chaospsychex: you don't care about security? |
| 18:30.48 | SynrGy | in any case, the CD faq covers this stuff. i assume you found the image in the first place from www.d.o/CD/live? |
| 18:30.57 | chaospsychex | greycat, it's a workstation that's not connected to the net! |
| 18:31.09 | chaospsychex | no need for 'network security' |
| 18:31.11 | greycat | So what does it do? Space heater? |
| 18:31.24 | chaospsychex | i'm going to use it for developing a software application |
| 18:31.27 | chaospsychex | lol |
| 18:31.48 | SynrGy | software development performed without the net? inconceivable! |
| 18:32.05 | greycat | Definitely a different culture from what we usually do. |
| 18:32.07 | SynrGy | http://www.d.o/CD/faq |
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| 18:32.15 | SynrGy | http://www.debian.org/CD/faq |
| 18:32.32 | SynrGy | chaospsychex: you usually only need DVD-1. the faq explains how to figure out what's on each |
| 18:32.46 | chaospsychex | i would love to have it connected but i live in a rural area and there is no broadband available |
| 18:32.47 | greycat | It's really hard to imagine doing anything complicated without being able to Google stuff. |
| 18:32.58 | chaospsychex | greycat, indeed |
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| 18:35.42 | transhuman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:36.42 | greycat | $ nm -D /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0.4200.1 | grep mutex_new |
| 18:36.42 | greycat | 000000000001c800 T g_mutex_new |
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| 18:36.56 | Lowin | Hello, I have a question. I have downloaded netinst iso of debian wheezy for armhf processors. But inside the iso, I can't find a initramfs or a kernel image to boot from. how do I boot into installer? |
| 18:37.29 | SynrGy | somiaj, markybob, tite12345: er, where was i? oh, yeah, gpk-update-viewer.desktop is provided by gnome-packagekit |
| 18:37.58 | SynrGy | tite12345: if all you're ever doing is applying security updates, "Package Updater" may be sufficient |
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| 18:38.10 | jelly | Lowin: each arm board has a slightly different way to boot. see if the release notes say what to do for your specific board |
| 18:38.11 | SynrGy | otherwise, it is likely it is woefully inadequate for other things |
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| 18:39.59 | transhuman | greycat does that mean that it is infact supported and the error is misleading? |
| 18:40.03 | Lowin | jelly, You see, that's why I'm looking for the initramfs image. I already have my own kernel image to boot from. I just need to tailor a custom initramfs with the installer. I thought I could just modify an existing initramfs image with necessary drivers and options for my board |
| 18:40.13 | greycat | transhuman: what error, what are you doing, what package are you using... |
| 18:40.56 | tite12345 | SynrGy: What about a full system update? |
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| 18:41.15 | transhuman | trying to launch vcenter client on wine it gives error symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libORBit-2.so.0 undefined symbol g_mutex_new |
| 18:41.22 | tite12345 | That includes the security updates. |
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| 18:41.39 | greycat | transhuman: sounds like it failed to link with libglib-2.0 |
| 18:41.51 | SynrGy | tite12345: i don't understand the distinction ... |
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| 18:42.03 | SynrGy | tite12345: if you're on stable "security updates" are essentially all you'll ever do |
| 18:42.05 | greycat | transhuman: did you compile this yourself, or is it a binary thing? |
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| 18:42.28 | SynrGy | tite12345: if you're not on stable, that's a whole different kettle of fish. you want a 'real' package management tool |
| 18:42.31 | SynrGy | commandline is best |
| 18:42.38 | transhuman | binary |
| 18:42.44 | SynrGy | apt, apt-get, aptitude. take your pick |
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| 18:44.22 | somiaj | doens't synamptic at least play nicely enough with apt/aptitude these days it is an okay tool? |
| 18:44.42 | greycat | transhuman: then I don't know what to say. File a bug report against wine or whatever. |
| 18:44.57 | transhuman | ok thanks for the help |
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| 18:45.20 | transhuman | just in case i am installing every libglib* package and see if it makes a difference |
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| 18:45.57 | SynrGy | somiaj: even *if* it does a decent job (and I have my doubts) it's hell for communication between person needing help and helper |
| 18:46.06 | greycat | transhuman: seems to be in libglib2.0-0 |
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| 18:46.12 | SynrGy | it doesn't really make more than a tiny fraction of jobs esier |
| 18:46.13 | SynrGy | easier* |
| 18:46.15 | greycat | god that's an ugly package name... |
| 18:46.36 | transhuman | I already installed that one, I am wondering if its a symbolic link problem |
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| 18:46.48 | SynrGy | somiaj: so the support costs are too high. therefore, i recommend against it |
| 18:47.10 | greycat | transhuman: if your version of wine is not properly linked against the libraries it needs, then no sym link is going to fix it. |
| 18:47.13 | somiaj | SynrGy: yea I prefer the cli commands, but at thought at least synamptic was playing nicely if someone chose to use it. Use to be it didn't play so nicely with apt/aptitude that if someone was using it, having them swtich to cli when helping didn't always bring to light the problem. |
| 18:47.26 | transhuman | ok i i will look in that direction |
| 18:47.30 | transhuman | thanks |
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| 18:50.10 | SynrGy | somiaj: it's a circular problem. because support costs are high, it tends to not get recommended. because not recommending it means fewer people use it (and especially fewer experts do) the available pool of help is small, and overall, trust in the tool is diminished. |
| 18:50.13 | transhuman | greycat should /usr/lib be in my path |
| 18:50.41 | greycat | No. Library stuff is handled by /etc/ld.so* and LD_LIBRARY_PATH and so on. |
| 18:51.00 | SynrGy | somiaj: that's quite apart from any *technical* deficiencies, about which I can't say, because i rarely use it :) |
| 18:51.20 | SynrGy | i wouldn't just assume "it must be better these days" just because time has passed |
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| 18:52.19 | frexm | Where is the best place to globally configure ('set -o noclobber' for) bash? /etc/profile.d/<something>.sh? |
| 18:52.24 | transhuman | hmm interesting that path is empty LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 18:52.44 | greycat | frexm: Your personal ~/.bashrc file in your personal $HOME directory for your personal account. |
| 18:53.06 | greycat | profile is totally wrong in multiple ways |
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| 18:54.20 | transhuman | greycat what should it contain by default? |
| 18:54.34 | greycat | Why? Have you been fucking around with low-level library stuff? |
| 18:55.08 | transhuman | no I haven't thats the crazy part |
| 18:55.34 | transhuman | never the less it is empty echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH shows nothing |
| 18:55.37 | greycat | Then why do you think your /etc/ld.so* structure is wrong? |
| 18:55.57 | transhuman | see above line |
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| 18:56.16 | greycat | LD_LIBRARY_PATH is an optional variable. It's normal for it to be empty if you aren't fucking around with crazy crap like Java. |
| 18:56.25 | transhuman | oh ok |
| 18:56.27 | greycat | Or python. |
| 18:56.46 | transhuman | ok thanks |
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| 18:57.33 | frexm | greycat: I specifically asked for where to configure it globally, do you have anything other than a non-suggestion? |
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| 18:58.10 | greycat | I have an /ignore. Thanks for making it easy. |
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| 19:00.07 | frexm | Helpful. |
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| 19:01.12 | sfuse | frexm, based on greycat's previous suggestion I would try /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 19:01.33 | greycat | If you are a fucking sadist draconian overlord who wants all of your users to SUFFER MWAHAHAHA then sure. |
| 19:01.57 | frexm | sfuse: Thanks, I was actually looking at that. |
| 19:02.02 | greycat | That is why Debian patched bash to have an /etc/bash.bashrc file. Which does not exist in the upstream version of bash. |
| 19:02.15 | frexm | What a moron. |
| 19:02.20 | Spec | to allow draconian overlords to set global options? |
| 19:02.25 | frexm | If you want to help, don't question motives. |
| 19:02.36 | Spec | frexm: often times, questioning motives is what helps the user the most |
| 19:02.39 | greycat | To modify ever user's shell to suit the overlord's whims, yes. |
| 19:02.42 | greycat | every* |
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| 19:03.25 | Spec | what the user asks, and what they are trying to accomplish, are often two separate things |
| 19:03.32 | greycat | Usually people in this channel use it to set the world's ugliest colorized prompt so that they have their unicorn-vomit prompt when they log in as root or as themselves. |
| 19:03.41 | frexm | Spec: Sure, but this is still so typical. My question was quite specific, I wanted to configure something globally and I am accepting answers in the right direction to do just that. |
| 19:04.07 | frexm | *sigh* |
| 19:04.39 | Spec | greycat: do you have a good unicorn-vomit PS1? |
| 19:04.59 | greycat | I use PS1='\h:\w\$ ' if I bother to override the default at all., |
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| 19:06.07 | Spec | I use that sweet default ;) |
| 19:07.00 | SynrGy | ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ |
| 19:07.01 | SynrGy | :) |
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| 19:07.25 | SynrGy | very handy |
| 19:08.43 | SynrGy | (this is the default from /etc/skel/.bashrc, btw) |
| 19:08.45 | abrotman | had a two line PS1 for the longest time .. |
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| 19:09.37 | frexm | But, I can explain why I want to do this globally. I have a debian template VM, on which I base various single user VMs and I don't want to configure the single user account in each of those VMs if I can set it globally in the template VM. |
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| 19:10.05 | frexm | 'set -o noclobber' at the end of /etc/bash.bashrc was probably the right/best option, thanks sfuse. |
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| 19:11.04 | damarusama | anything that I should consider when I connect a debian box to a iphone wifi ? |
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| 19:11.55 | damarusama | creating an access point on the iphone |
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| 19:12.18 | damarusama | I can see the iphone in the network manager |
| 19:12.45 | damarusama | seems like I am connecting, but not going anywhere online |
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| 19:14.06 | markybob | damarusama, can you ping ip's and just not domains? or nothing? |
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| 19:14.48 | damarusama | nothing at this point |
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| 19:16.44 | damarusama | what I read is that over wifi, thetering should be as simple as connecting to a wifi network.. |
| 19:17.10 | somiaj | it is |
| 19:17.12 | markybob | it is |
| 19:17.21 | markybob | i don't have an iphone though |
| 19:17.36 | somiaj | note depending on the actaul phone there may be issues (Such as some use wep, and this is insecure and easily crackable). But That is another issue |
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| 19:18.07 | somiaj | as for putting your phone in what is sometimes called 'wifi hotspot' mode, you just need to connect your debian machine to the wireless AP (network) created by the phone |
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| 19:18.27 | somiaj | but this is not the only way to 'tether' the internet connenction from the phone. Other methods may not work well in debian though. |
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| 19:19.12 | Colti | what the best way to get hw video decoding with fglrx working with jessie? Do i need vdpau or vaapi? |
| 19:19.22 | damarusama | yeah that's what I see, I'd prefer using wifi over bluetooth or usb at this point... |
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| 19:28.28 | jhutchins | Colti: What format? |
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| 19:29.21 | hstl | Hi all! I want to use 1 HDD for 2 computers (notebook and netbook). There is now Debian installed in HDD. I want to unplug HDD, plug it in netbook and install Windows XP as second system. I don't want to use Debian in netbook, just Windows. And then, when i need - i want to use Debian in HDD. I know how to install Windows and Linux in one HDD. Will grub work on 2 different computers without any problems?? |
| 19:29.40 | abrotman | should have installed Windows first |
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| 19:30.13 | markybob | hstl, it'll work. just do windows first |
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| 19:30.37 | hstl | markybob, i already have Debian installed |
| 19:30.47 | hstl | and don't want to erase it |
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| 19:31.40 | markybob | hstl, since you said you know how to do it and just wanted to know if it'd work...it'll work. not fun to do windows second though |
| 19:31.55 | Colti | jhutchins in general |
| 19:32.11 | Colti | no special video format |
| 19:32.17 | hstl | markybob, ok, thank you |
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| 19:32.56 | Colti | is fglrx working with both apis? vdpau or vaapi? |
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| 19:34.03 | greycat | the irccloud is raining on me |
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| 19:34.59 | disconnectedave | do we have a channel for powerpc? |
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| 19:35.10 | awal | hstl, you can install windows after debian but more work is needed reconfiguring grub via a live linux system. you will save time and headache installing windows first |
| 19:35.31 | markybob | disconnectedave, on oftc |
| 19:35.33 | markybob | !ppc |
| 19:35.33 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <macsound>, <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:35.53 | hstl | awal, ok, thank you |
| 19:35.56 | somiaj | awal: though with efi systems, this may not be as true as it once was. (: |
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| 19:36.24 | somiaj | though with efi systems, bootloaders aren't really needed, since the uefi is a boot loader |
| 19:36.41 | markybob | he did say win xp. doubt he's using uefi |
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| 19:38.13 | disconnectedave | thanks markybob |
| 19:38.24 | somiaj | ahh I thought I saw windows 10, though my comment was more a side remark. |
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| 19:43.15 | awal | somiaj: ok, ok, probably difficult for now, but soon people will work on that (install windows after linux in uefi machines) by necessity. |
| 19:43.41 | awal | people will work in solutions... |
| 19:43.52 | Aebian | with grub-uefi, can I transform my linux ssd into uefi mode? currently its adressed via legacy |
| 19:44.00 | mordocai | Hey, i'm getting this when installing ruby 2.2.2/2.2.3 with ruby-build on debian testing. Is this a library version issue? Anyone know? Worked fine a few months ago http://paste.lisp.org/display/163730. |
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| 19:44.27 | hstl | I have a swap 8 gb. My RAM is 4 gb. Debian system. Can i unswap it in gparted without any problems? |
| 19:44.48 | markybob | already working on security boot. regular uefi works okay. installing windows after debian is nothing debian can really help or "work on". |
| 19:45.20 | somiaj | Aebian: not directly, the only way to change your current install to boot form efi if it is booting from legacy, is to get a recovery mediume (offical debian installer works) that can boot in efi mode. |
| 19:45.35 | somiaj | Aebian: once you are booted into a linux kernel in efi mode, you can chroot into your install and reconfigure the bootloader for efi mode |
| 19:45.50 | mordocai | hstl: If free -m shows no/low swap usage it should be fine. |
| 19:45.52 | somiaj | Aebian: you cannot change from legacy boot to efi boot, if you are booted in legacy mode (at least not very easy) |
| 19:46.13 | awal | I have windows 10 in one of my machines here and it's a big bullshit, f*** heavy and it takes long time for reboot. the only new feature in windows 10 compared to xp, 7... is the possibility of having virtual desktops, a linux feature that exists manyyyyy years ago... |
| 19:46.22 | Aebian | somiaj: well could I just use a live debian mimage to perform the changes on my installed debian system? |
| 19:46.28 | Aebian | *image |
| 19:46.55 | Aebian | then I would just download one, burn it into an usb drive and boot from there |
| 19:46.56 | somiaj | Aebian: the live debian images do not support efi boot (at least last I checked) |
| 19:46.58 | markybob | Aebian, live debian doesn't support uefi. |
| 19:47.09 | Aebian | hmm welp okay thanks |
| 19:47.13 | somiaj | Aebian: you will have to use a debian installer or some other live image that boots into efi |
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| 19:47.45 | awal | Aebian: for uefi, use amd64 image |
| 19:47.53 | Aebian | somiaj: a normal debian 8.2 install dvd should work or do I need a special one? |
| 19:48.04 | Aebian | awal: its amd64 |
| 19:48.05 | markybob | Aebian, that works |
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| 19:49.27 | somiaj | Aebian: any offical debian image will work, you just don't get as full of a shell as a live system. once booted, hit alt-f2, open a console, mount your system and chroot into it, then you can use the tools in your install |
| 19:49.28 | awal | only amd64 supports uefi since wheezy |
| 19:49.43 | awal | with jessie i386 too, but really sure |
| 19:50.12 | awal | not really sure ^ |
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| 19:50.45 | Aebian | markybob: nice but I remember that in the debian install there was a terminal option at the end. I'm not quite sure if I rly need to install another debian on a Drive or just select the this terminal option to chroot into my installed debian |
| 19:50.55 | markybob | i386 works fine with uefi in jessie |
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| 19:54.00 | foo | I want to change my system time. By default, server is in New York, so all system time is in EST. However, I'm in PST timezone. If I change system timezone to PST, I imagine I shouldn't have any problems since *everything* should change (as opposed to only changing mysql timezone and leaving system in EST). Is this correct? |
| 19:54.22 | mordocai | Found answer to my issue here https://github.com/rbenv/ruby-build/wiki#openssl-sslv3_method-undeclared-error |
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| 20:11.42 | sorin-mihai | trying to ad multiple IPs to a nic, but i'm not sure what is the best way to do it. should "up ip addr add 10.0.0.21/24 dev eth0 label eth:0" in /etc/network/interfaces be enough? I still don't get the difference between this and the old iface eth0:0 inet static... |
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| 20:15.58 | LordShadowWing | sorin-mihai, why not ipv6? |
| 20:16.01 | greycat | reads interfaces(5) again, looks for examples, still finds none worth mentioning.... |
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| 20:17.48 | sorin-mihai | LordShadowWing, I have only 1 NIC, and trying to setup a PoC openstack by the book... |
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| 20:19.37 | sorin-mihai | anyway, that addr add helps a bit, perhaps without label, but I'd still have to face a NIC that doesn't get an WAN IP... and the NIC does get one, so trying to setup a link doesn't work |
| 20:20.05 | greycat | sorin-mihai: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#iproute2_method |
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| 20:21.01 | LordShadowWing | sorin-mihai, http://docs.openstack.org/ |
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| 20:21.29 | sorin-mihai | greycat, had to use the manual aproach, since it would get an IP in a 2nd subnet |
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| 20:22.15 | greycat | has no idea why the maintainers of the Debian packages can't manage to get some friggin' examples in the man page or in the default interfaces file. |
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| 20:22.34 | sorin-mihai | LordShadowWing, yeah, following the Kilo docs |
| 20:22.38 | greycat | It's been this way for *years* |
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| 20:25.17 | teraflops | sorin-mihai: I would use iproute method since ifconfig is being deprecated |
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| 20:26.12 | sorin-mihai | isn't that what I already have? ip addr add 10.0.0.31/24 dev eth0 |
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| 20:33.23 | mordocai | So the date command isn't setting my time. What's up with that? Debian testing. I'm purposely trying to set the time to something wrong. This is a virtualbox vm, could that be doing it? http://paste.lisp.org/display/163754 |
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| 20:34.45 | jhutchins | sorin-mihai: Write up some examples, submit them to the maintainer of the man page. |
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| 20:35.28 | greycat | It's kind of a catch 22, isn't it? We need examples to know how to do things, like construct examples. |
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| 20:35.47 | sorin-mihai | jhutchins, i got that from the wiki, so it's available... |
| 20:35.51 | greycat | I could not find any part of the man page that describes how to put mutiple addresses on an interface, example or otherwise. |
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| 20:37.33 | sorin-mihai | who reads man? nowadays proffessio^Wnewbies search forums, wiki, scream on irc for help... |
| 20:37.43 | sorin-mihai | *hides* |
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| 21:11.56 | Ripmind | Can someone help me? I tried resizing my disk and now i get this problem when i try to boot: http://p.styler2go.de/?62 |
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| 21:18.10 | Aebian | Anyone knows hat this happens? The drive has no piece of windows on it lol. Just my workspace (github stuff, psd files, renders patterns, fonts textures, 3d modells and work etc.) https://dl.aebian.org/mount-error.txt |
| 21:18.22 | Aebian | *why |
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| 21:20.04 | Riastradh | I'm packaging a Python program which uses setuptools. It specifies install_requires=['foo>=1.23', 'bar>=4.56']. I would like to make the deb depend on python-foo and not python-bar but instead python-baz. What's the best way to do this? |
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| 21:20.48 | Riastradh | Presumably simply using dh_python2 in debian/rules and ${python:Depends} in debian/control will map to python-foo and python-bar. I thought I remembered a way to explicitly rename specific packages, but I can't remember where I found documentation for it. |
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| 21:22.30 | mordocai | Does systemd do some kind of network time sync in debian? Without ntp installed? |
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| 21:22.49 | mordocai | The time on my debian VM was being reset to "proper" time even if I set it to something else but disconnecting network fixed it. |
| 21:22.55 | mordocai | debian testing* |
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| 21:24.51 | greycat | In testing? Possibly, yes. Ask in #debian-next on OFTC. |
| 21:25.05 | greycat | I know that systemd has the capability but I don't know whether testing has enabled it. |
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| 21:26.01 | teraflops | mordocai: systemd-timers also in stable |
| 21:26.49 | hagb4rd | hi.. can i somehow stop background jobs from spamming the console once they are started (forgot to use nohup initially) |
| 21:26.50 | hagb4rd | ? |
| 21:27.04 | teraflops | you can check it, systemctl list-timers |
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| 21:28.39 | teraflops | mordocai: nvm I need to sleep, I meant systemd-timesyncd |
| 21:29.09 | teraflops | in stable too: systemctl status systemd-timesyncd |
| 21:29.49 | mordocai | teraflops: Yep, looks like that was it. Thanks! |
| 21:30.15 | teraflops | mordocai: np |
| 21:31.04 | somiaj | hagb4rd: I found this, doens't seem like a trival thing to do, but doable, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/593724/redirect-stderr-stdout-of-a-process-after-its-been-started-using-command-lin |
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| 21:32.34 | hagb4rd | somiaj: o snap.. what a gloomy hack. i take this as a no. |
| 21:33.00 | sudo3 | hi, i have vps with debian 6, i set up postfix there but i checked and i havent got MX records. how can i add it? |
| 21:33.14 | sudo3 | i know i have to point mx records to my VPS ip but how an i do that? |
| 21:33.19 | teraflops | sudo3: in your dns |
| 21:33.33 | sudo3 | i use providers DNS, so i have to install dnsmasq? |
| 21:33.37 | hagb4rd | somiaj: thx.. fortunately i can wait this time. note @ myself: use nohup |
| 21:33.38 | somiaj | hagb4rd: I was hoping for some job controll tool, but apparentally you need to do more work to redirect the stdout, stderr of a running process. |
| 21:33.43 | sudo3 | and make server use that dns right? |
| 21:33.50 | somiaj | hagb4rd: or use screen, and then just open another screen (: |
| 21:33.55 | sudo3 | and enter mx records right? |
| 21:34.06 | hagb4rd | somiaj: i guess that would work yes. |
| 21:34.08 | somiaj | hagb4rd: or "command 2>&1 > /dev/null &" |
| 21:34.35 | somiaj | you can redirect stdout/stderr when you run the process, it is changing it that is the problem. |
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| 21:35.25 | testi | My mouse has a variable dpi-setting that is changed by a button on the mouse - is there a way to retrieve the current dpi setting without measuring mouse kilometers? It's a roccat mouse. |
| 21:35.59 | hagb4rd | somiaj: a friend seems to have found a solution, btw: disown |
| 21:36.05 | hagb4rd | that works here fine. |
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| 21:36.27 | somiaj | hagb4rd: yea I guess if you want to get the command off the terminal. I was just redirecting the output. |
| 21:36.44 | teraflops | sudo3: no, you need a dns mx record so whoever do `host yourdomain` get yourdmain mail is handled by 10 yourmxrecord |
| 21:37.05 | hagb4rd | somiaj: oh. nice. just wanted to get rid of it. thx for help ;) |
| 21:37.09 | somiaj | note disown and nohup can be a bit 'hacky' to me, You should really set up a process that properly launches a daemon if that is your goal. |
| 21:37.27 | somiaj | i.e. this isn't just redirecting the output, this is removing the assocation with the tty/pty it is running on. |
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| 21:37.43 | hagb4rd | that's right. i'm trying to next. |
| 21:38.08 | hagb4rd | usually nohub writes into a file and i can tea the output |
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| 21:38.15 | hagb4rd | if needed. |
| 21:38.26 | hagb4rd | nohup it us. |
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| 21:38.48 | sudo3 | teraflops: host mydomain.com has address 225.28*.**.** |
| 21:38.49 | hagb4rd | too much typos. hope u can readme. |
| 21:38.54 | sudo3 | how can i submit mx records there? |
| 21:38.56 | sudo3 | i dont use cpanel etc |
| 21:39.04 | sudo3 | and webmin also i dont use |
| 21:39.19 | greycat | hagb4rd: another approach is to run the long-running command inside screen or tmux, and detach. Then you can reattach to it later. |
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| 21:39.29 | teraflops | sudo3: you want to setup a mail server? |
| 21:39.49 | sudo3 | yes exactly |
| 21:39.51 | sudo3 | its already set up |
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| 21:39.54 | teraflops | sudo3: for sending an receiving mail form everywhere? |
| 21:40.04 | sudo3 | yes, i got postfix already |
| 21:40.08 | hagb4rd | somiaj: greycat i heard of such a thing..unfortunatly i'm not a superuser and tmux is not available |
| 21:40.09 | sudo3 | and it works |
| 21:40.22 | sudo3 | but on senderscore.org i dont see "MX records" |
| 21:40.30 | teraflops | no it is not, at leasr you do not have your dns configured properly |
| 21:40.32 | sudo3 | and i also need to setup DKIM but i will handle that |
| 21:40.35 | teraflops | least* |
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| 21:41.08 | somiaj | hagb4rd: we are sometimes a bit to holistic here and try to correct usage as opposed to just give answers to a problem. (: |
| 21:41.15 | teraflops | youll need an A dns record for the mail server, at least 1 mx record and a prt record |
| 21:41.17 | sudo3 | hmm it is receiving and sending mails properly but yes i know i have to setup mx records, google doesnt help because i dont have cpanel.. they tell me to get cpanel |
| 21:41.27 | sudo3 | allright, with bind i can do that? |
| 21:41.27 | Riastradh | In answer to my earlier question: debian/pydist-overrides |
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| 21:41.37 | hagb4rd | somiaj: also as i see it without i won't be able to recover control of the process once i disown it. which forces me to kill and restart it, ..but i guess i can live with that |
| 21:41.42 | sudo3 | and in resolv.conf set to use that dns? |
| 21:42.09 | teraflops | sudo3: no, you need to get a better idea of what you need |
| 21:42.22 | somiaj | hagb4rd: yea if your server doesn't have screen or tmux on it, you should beat the admin...(: |
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| 21:42.34 | ProfessorKaos64 | hi, if I am building from a master tree of a github souce. is it best to do ver+date+git or swap date with the commit shorthand? |
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| 21:42.56 | teraflops | sudo3: as in how a mail server works and what dns stuff does it require to run properly |
| 21:43.10 | hagb4rd | somiaj: if all else fails. i would prefer not to wake the sleeping giant |
| 21:43.14 | hagb4rd | ;) |
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| 21:44.29 | hagb4rd | thanks for help |
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| 21:46.31 | teraflops | sudo3: they tell you to get a cpnanel 1) because it costs money 2) it will have the related dns stuff for setting up the dns stuff (including mx records) |
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| 21:46.48 | sudo3 | yeah i know |
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| 21:47.00 | sudo3 | already had cpanel but i have vps, on shared hostings i had cpanel auto installed |
| 21:47.10 | sudo3 | i know how to set up mx server there but from vps shell no idea |
| 21:47.11 | Aebian | any knows why he is telling me unkown sort specifier? is that because of the round brackets? I tried to rename the filesystem but debian thinks there is some hibernated windows on it which is NOT. so I tried to use: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o remove_hiberfile /dev/sdc1 /media/aebian/Stuff (Workfolder) |
| 21:47.38 | teraflops | sudo3: so if that is a vps just trnasfer your dns to dns.he.net or whatever you want and setup your dns there |
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| 21:49.42 | teraflops | sudo3: youll ned a dmoain name, the ptr stuff is done in the vps provider all the other dns stuff can be done in whatever free dns service you want (prior transferring your domain there) |
| 21:49.49 | teraflops | s/need |
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| 21:50.57 | teraflops | sudo3: further information in that matter is not related to #debian at all |
| 21:51.27 | sudo3 | ok thanks for help |
| 21:51.31 | teraflops | sudo3: np |
| 21:51.34 | sudo3 | i already have a dom name |
| 21:51.37 | sudo3 | domain* |
| 21:52.07 | teraflops | sudo3: youll learn a lot of stuff setting up a mail server properly |
| 21:52.47 | teraflops | sudo3: note the properly bit :P |
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| 22:03.42 | Aebian | hmm http://i.imgur.com/LoLonSU.png |
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| 22:15.12 | jaggzt | hmm.. I see 0's in my df's display of swap... but I'd like to hibernate my machine |
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| 22:16.13 | jaggzt | is there a way to know how big of a swap file I'd need? |
| 22:16.30 | jaggzt | pardon me, in "free" I have the 0's for the swap |
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| 22:19.34 | jaggzt | ahh.. https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition |
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| 22:20.38 | awal | jaggzt, how many ram you have? |
| 22:20.44 | jaggzt | 32g |
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| 22:20.57 | teraflops | ,v ntfsfix |
| 22:20.59 | judd | No package named 'ntfsfix' was found in amd64. |
| 22:21.09 | awal | ram or hard drive? |
| 22:21.29 | awal | 32 ^ |
| 22:23.13 | jaggzt | awal, 32gb ram |
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| 22:24.04 | somiaj | the ntfs-3g package has a very basic ntfs chkdsk, but it really only does very simple things, if you need to fix an ntfs filesystem, windows is the best bet. |
| 22:24.11 | awal | jaggzt: you dont really need swap having more 4gb. but if you want it 1 or 2 gb will be ok |
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| 22:24.30 | Selveste1_ | sudo3 if you need a guide for postfix, this is quide good: http://wiki.semarkit.dk/index.php/Postfix_%2B_Amavis-NEW_%2B_Spamassassin_%2B_ClamAV_%2B_SPF_%2B_Postgrey_%2B_DKIM_%2B_DMARC |
| 22:25.40 | jaggzt | awal, that's good to know.. they say at least half the ram so I made a 16g swap file.. heh |
| 22:25.50 | awal | jaggzt: standard deb installer will reserve like 48 or 64 gb for swap in your machine |
| 22:26.03 | jaggzt | but that's just with programs and such.. I don't have that much running :) |
| 22:26.25 | awal | that's crazy, but in the past , it recommended 1,5 of your ram |
| 22:26.32 | jaggzt | awal, I wonder why I have 0.. perhaps because / is an sdcard |
| 22:26.50 | jhutchins | Selveste1_: He's long gone. I think he has the mailserver set up, but he's having trouble understanding what he needs to do for DNS. It's a common misunderstanding that you can't just set up an internal DNS and have it direct traffic to your host. |
| 22:26.52 | jaggzt | so maybe I figured I had enough ram not to bother with using the sdcard |
| 22:27.17 | awal | but in the past standard machines have 1 or 2 gb ram usually |
| 22:27.31 | awal | jaggzt, it's a laptop? |
| 22:27.45 | jhutchins | awal: Generally 2x RAM up to 4G. |
| 22:28.07 | jaggzt | awal, no.. I have a 2xRaid mirror for data. I could put a swapfile on that |
| 22:28.11 | awal | jhutchins: right. 4 gb is enough |
| 22:28.24 | jhutchins | awal: The problem is that if you're actually swapping more than 4G of data your system is not going to be functional anyway. |
| 22:28.28 | teraflops | right now for a workstation less than 8 GB is useless imo |
| 22:28.44 | jaggzt | I think it's all set up, even with this huge swap, to hibernate right now.. followed the steps in the page I linked above... |
| 22:29.08 | teraflops | jaggzt: swap is always a good idea no matter how much ram do you have |
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| 22:29.14 | jhutchins | jaggzt: Oh, yeah, for suspend-to-ram you need 1x RAM (or more). |
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| 22:29.42 | jaggzt | I wanted to switch the computer to my UPS.. I don't have grounding in this place .. and I'm hoping that'll help.. since the ground of the computer was shocking me |
| 22:29.49 | awal | i have a lenovo laptop with 700gb HD and 8gb ram, and debian installer created reserved 16gb for swap, lol |
| 22:29.54 | awal | crazy installer |
| 22:29.59 | jaggzt | heh |
| 22:30.06 | Selveste1_ | jhutchins: oh okay, I just came in right in the end and only skimmed the last couple of messages, but thansk for the update. and you're right, it's a common error. |
| 22:30.15 | jaggzt | okay.. so wish me luck hibernating right now |
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| 22:30.29 | jaggzt | I'll wait for your wish before I run s2disk |
| 22:30.36 | jaggzt | taps fingers on desk (actually on kb) |
| 22:31.44 | jaggzt | okay I won't wait anymore, but I have faith that you don't want the worst for me |
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| 22:33.51 | awal | I wonder if it's possible to reserve a key in an extra usb keyboard for do what FN key does |
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| 22:35.34 | awal | I mean I'm using an extra keyboard and it doesn't have FN key. Can I reserve X key for do what FN laptop key does? |
| 22:35.39 | jaggzt | re |
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| 22:36.06 | teraflops | jaggzt: consider using sasl :P |
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| 22:37.45 | jaggzt | teraflops, for what? |
| 22:38.00 | jaggzt | my resolution's messed up or something.. everything's teeny on my display now :/ and it's wiggling |
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| 22:39.09 | jaggzt | the resolution is 1900x though.. which is the native resolution.. I wonder why everything's all whacky |
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| 22:40.03 | jaggzt | my system didn't actually resume I think. It must have done an actual boot :( |
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| 22:42.25 | jaggzt | wow.. this is bad |
| 22:42.37 | awal | Why Fn key does it's job under a DE (gnome, Kde, Xfce...) but not under WM? I know what is the difference between a DE & WM , but what is missing in a WM that make it unable to use the Fn key? |
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| 22:45.26 | jaggzt | (1920x1080 is the native resolution.. that's what I"m in. Everything is much smaller than last boot) |
| 22:45.30 | jaggzt | bb |
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| 22:50.05 | jaggzt | better.. system boots with primary being a low resolution tv-monitor I have, until X11/KDE pick the proper layout.. that seemed to mess it up. booting with that display disconnected cleaned things up.. :/ |
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| 22:53.22 | jaggzt | teraflops, working on sasl |
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| 22:56.24 | jaggzt | teraflops, better? how do you know if I was sasl authenticated? |
| 22:56.32 | jaggzt | I see that I was, but how did you know? |
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| 23:03.19 | tytan | Hello, everyone. I want to install Debian 8 on my server running 4x 500GB HDD in RAID10 on the mainboard RAID controller. I read that I need to add "dmraid=true" when I start the installer. But it doesn't see my RAID. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 23:07.02 | amdp | hi what should be the mailman configuration address according to this configuration? http://paste.debian.net/340724/ |
| 23:07.16 | amdp | I mean mailman configuration URL |
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| 23:14.43 | teraflops | jaggzt: look at the server tab/log/whatever is in your client for hmm i have in spanish ... |
| 23:14.58 | teraflops | irc capabilities sasl enabled or something like that |
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| 23:15.25 | teraflops | jaggzt: SASL authentication successful |
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| 23:47.12 | dontknow | i bought a ssd, should i add discard argument to fstab? |
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| 23:47.33 | dontknow | on debian stable |
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| 23:48.25 | dontknow | how do ssd user set up their debian? |
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| 23:53.43 | Kiril | hello guys. |
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| 23:54.06 | Kiril | any idea how to resolve this: |
| 23:54.06 | Kiril | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.06 | Kiril | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
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| 23:57.11 | hagb4rd | can i somehow tag a process (like give it a name) to be able to check if it's running later on? |
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