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| 00:09.37 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Is there anything significantly different between Firefox and Iceweasel which would make Capital One and Capital One 306 sites unusable? |
| 00:09.44 | paulE | Graf_Z4hl, I've run debian production servers for many organizations with great success. Again, you only run into issues if you have a particular application that requires some latest version of a package to operate correctly. |
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| 00:10.03 | paulE | Lady_Aleena, less fox, more weasel. |
| 00:10.22 | Lady_Aleena | paulE, that doesn't help. 8S |
| 00:10.41 | paulE | Lady_Aleena, what sort of usability issues are you seeing? |
| 00:11.11 | Lady_Aleena | paulE, I can't log into Capital One at all, and I cant' make loan payments on Capital One 360. |
| 00:11.21 | Lady_Aleena | s/cant'/can't/; |
| 00:11.22 | Graf_Z4hl | paulE: Yes, that's right, but I think we don't need a special version of a package |
| 00:11.51 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: There are some small differences but these are mostly cosmetic. |
| 00:11.57 | paulE | Lady_Aleena, do the pages load? Have you tried an alternative browser? |
| 00:12.19 | Lady_Aleena | somiaj, could those cosmetic differences be what is making Iceweasle unusable? |
| 00:12.21 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: the only real difference is iceweasel has removed the firefox logo and trademarks (including name) |
| 00:12.52 | Lady_Aleena | somiaj, so Iceweasel may not be supported if Capital One looks for the browser name. |
| 00:12.55 | ryouma | somiaj: i thought there was a difference in security patches too? |
| 00:13.07 | Lady_Aleena | paulE, Chromium works. |
| 00:13.17 | Lady_Aleena | I don't like Chromium. |
| 00:13.20 | paulE | Lady_Aleena, it's more likely that the developers of the web site have done something odd with the useragent string sniffing |
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| 00:14.07 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: the two differences that could be effect are 1) user agent, maybe the websight is looking for the browser to be called 'firefox' but it is called 'iceweasel' and it just rejects it because it thinks it is not supported |
| 00:14.20 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: other issue is default plugins, and another is iceweasel is the ESR version |
| 00:14.34 | Lady_Aleena | ESR version? |
| 00:14.44 | somiaj | ryouma: not any more, security now uses the current ESR release of firefox and dosen't patch the debian version anymore |
| 00:14.53 | somiaj | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ |
| 00:16.11 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: so if I were to guess issues could be you need to fake your user agent so your browser reports itself as firefox |
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| 00:16.40 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: It could be the esr version dosen't contain some feature you need, you can get the current release of firefox (branded as iceweasel) from mozilla.debian.net |
| 00:16.57 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: it could be you are missing some plugins or have a conflicting plugin (or extension, etc) causing your issue. |
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| 00:17.24 | paulE | Like I said: less fox, more weasel :) |
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| 00:23.34 | pflanze | Hi. Where are the template files for a new user? I thought they were in /etc/profile/, but that's a file and profile.d is for something else. |
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| 00:24.32 | somiaj | pflanze: all a config.d means is a config dir, usually most files in that dir are also read, this way you can split things up |
| 00:24.50 | pflanze | I'm talking about a dir that is copied verbatim. |
| 00:24.56 | pflanze | Just found the right r |
| 00:24.58 | somiaj | if you look at /etc/profile there should be lines in there to read every file in /etc/profile.d that end in a .sh |
| 00:25.02 | pflanze | search term for this: skeleton dir |
| 00:25.14 | format_c | pflanze, do you mean the skeleton directory for a home directory? |
| 00:25.18 | pflanze | yes |
| 00:25.20 | format_c | it's /etc/skel |
| 00:25.21 | somiaj | ahh you are thinking /etc/skeleton then |
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| 00:25.36 | somiaj | the files /etc/profile and /etc/profile/*.sh are read by a login() shell |
| 00:25.41 | format_c | useradd -m -k /etc/skel .... |
| 00:26.20 | pflanze | Ok that's it. Odd that I misremembered that. |
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| 00:56.57 | ironpillow | hi all, I installed Debian on a 32 GB flash drive. For some reason its not booting. Anyone have any pointers? |
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| 00:59.15 | Hello71 | !doesntwork |
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| 01:01.53 | bit1 | ironpillow, hello, 1st: check BIOS, 2nd check usb is bootable (fdisk -l /dev/sdX ), 3rd: check how you made that USB-bootable . I'm not an expert |
| 01:03.16 | ironpillow | bit1: I installed Debian on the flash drive just like I would on a normal HDD. It installed GRUB boot loader. I using Coreboot/iPXE. |
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| 01:05.15 | bit1 | ironpillow, fdisk /dev/sdX check if your partition is bootable |
| 01:06.37 | ironpillow | bit1: will do, in a bit. USB stick is connected to the machine now, I am just waiting a few minutes for it boot. |
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| 01:29.11 | ironpillow | bit1: checked using fdisk and it has a boot block "system = linux" |
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| 01:30.16 | bit1 | ironpillow, is it bootable? |
| 01:30.43 | ironpillow | there is a "*" below boot next to /dev/sdb1 |
| 01:30.55 | ironpillow | bit1: so i assume it's bootable |
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| 01:31.27 | bit1 | ironpillow, oki |
| 01:31.36 | ironpillow | bit1: is there another way I can make sure its bootable |
| 01:32.27 | bit1 | ironpillow, i'm really sorry, I don't know, just try qemu, virtualbox or similar |
| 01:32.43 | ironpillow | bit1: no problem. thanks! |
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| 02:26.48 | decci | Hello |
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| 02:30.31 | decci | All I usually do is dh_make -f ../sa_source.tar.gz -p sas_8.2.0 && debian/rules clean && debian/rules build && debian/rules binary for creating packages for particular source code. |
| 02:30.50 | decci | Now for this installer(which installs everything in sequence), I created control file with all dependencies..but what pre-compiled source code am I going to use? |
| 02:31.49 | decci | What I mean is say, for alpha .DEB packaging I ran the sh_make && debian/rules clean -build-binary on that alpha specific source code |
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| 02:32.25 | decci | But while creating a package which does installs everything in sequence where do I need to run the above packaging commands |
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| 02:36.16 | johnfg | So, if I bring up, from an install cd, `gdisk /dev/sda` in order to convert mbr to gpt, can I then just create one small partition, write things out, go back to my wheezy system, and resize partitions? |
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| 02:38.47 | tx | Hi guys, trying to install grub-efi, it installed without errors but is missing the option to boot my debian install! |
| 02:39.01 | tx | only inserted options for my windows drive and BIOS setup |
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| 03:03.00 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 03:03.12 | marioxcc | I am trying to get the source code for "bzip2", but I get: |
| 03:03.21 | marioxcc | E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 03:03.41 | marioxcc | However, I already have "deb-src" lines in my sources.list. |
| 03:03.55 | decci | marioxcc: Can you run apt-get update once |
| 03:04.16 | marioxcc | Here is it: |
| 03:04.16 | marioxcc | https://paste.debian.net/343481/ |
| 03:04.19 | marioxcc | decci: I did already. |
| 03:04.21 | marioxcc | Several times. |
| 03:04.58 | marioxcc | Why is it apt complaining (I call it with "apt-get source bzip2")?. |
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| 03:07.12 | decci | marioxcc: I hope you have entry for both mail and source |
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| 03:08.11 | marioxcc | decci: Do you mean "main"? |
| 03:08.53 | marioxcc | These are the contents of "/etc/apt/sources.list": https://paste.debian.net/343481/ |
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| 03:12.14 | marioxcc | I am trying to download the source package of bzip2. I do "apt-get source bzip2", and I get: |
| 03:12.14 | marioxcc | E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 03:12.33 | marioxcc | Here is my sources.list: https://paste.debian.net/343481/ |
| 03:13.01 | marioxcc | What is the error? |
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| 03:20.53 | JJBB | Hey can anyone with a mail server in Europe help me test email delivery by sending me an email with an attachment? Plus a traceroute to an IP address so I can confirm mail path and delivery would be a great help !! |
| 03:21.14 | uxfi | hey JJBB |
| 03:21.25 | JJBB | hey uxfi ! |
| 03:22.15 | marioxcc | Hello. I am trying to download a source package, but "apt" complains that there is no source repository in my sources.list, but there is: <https://paste.debian.net/343481/>. What is the problem?. |
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| 03:35.07 | paulgrmn | marioxcc: that looks about right. Are you sure the package you want is in main rather than contrib or non-free? |
| 03:35.58 | marioxcc | paulgrmn: Yes. I don not use proprietary software. I am trying to get the source of BZip2. |
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| 03:40.40 | jmcnaught | marioxcc: are you able to get other source packages? |
| 03:42.02 | marioxcc | jmcnaught: No. |
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| 03:45.01 | paulgrmn | I just tried. I can't apt-get any source on a wheezy box, but I can on stretch. |
| 03:45.42 | jmcnaught | i'm trying in a wheezy container. the first attempt told me i needed to install dpkg-dev, which it's doing now |
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| 03:47.51 | paulgrmn | Sorry, yeah. I didn't have dpkg-dev installed on the wheezy box. |
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| 03:49.35 | jmcnaught | marioxcc: can you do a paste of the complete output including the command that you use? |
| 03:51.59 | marioxcc | jmcnaught: That will have to be another day. I have to leave this for today. |
| 03:52.11 | marioxcc | But I pasted the relevant part above (including the command). |
| 03:52.18 | marioxcc | Thanks anyway. :) |
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| 03:59.21 | RB2 | somiaj, still no idea what the problem is with this install. Just to protect my sanity, I tried other distros and didn't have a hitch. |
| 03:59.25 | RB2 | I can't figure it out |
| 04:03.21 | vvande_ | Debian ... I'm guessing? |
| 04:07.34 | RB2 | vvande_, yeah.. the disks show up in fdisk, but partman doesn't show them as a destionation |
| 04:07.46 | RB2 | *destination even |
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| 04:10.00 | somiaj | I'm unsure what is giong on. You could use a live system that can see the drives, then debootstrap the install yourself |
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| 04:12.17 | RB2 | somiaj, I did try that and it failed 75% of the way through the install and just said it had an error with the "Install System" step |
| 04:12.19 | RB2 | which was useful ;) |
| 04:12.34 | RB2 | I'm taking another tact, feeling a bit more hopeful about it |
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| 04:21.07 | RB2 | nope, fail. Just not sure where to go from here somiaj . Thanks for your help though, I appreciate it |
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| 04:25.53 | somiaj | RB2: what type of harddrive? |
| 04:26.12 | somiaj | RB2: I mean connenction, sata, laptop? tower? |
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| 04:27.48 | RB2 | somiaj, Its an ASRock IMB-181 Mini-ITX board with and Intel 82801 SATA Controller. The drives are Trascend 370 256GB SSDs |
| 04:29.36 | somiaj | RB2: Just a random though. Try new/different sata cables. Doubt this will do any good but if you have others to try |
| 04:29.52 | somiaj | RB2: and by drives, are they in some raid configuration from the uefi/bios? |
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| 04:30.50 | RB2 | somiaj, they were by default. I changed it to AHCI and even IDE to see if it would make a difference. No change in behavior |
| 04:31.00 | somiaj | RB2: Just random thoughts. It seems strange why the debian installer doesn't detect it while other isntallers do. I guess you could try to track down what the kernel does that is different, what modules are loaded etc. |
| 04:31.26 | RB2 | somiaj, if I drop to the shell from the installer, fdisk sees the drives |
| 04:31.33 | RB2 | Just partman doesn't |
| 04:31.51 | somiaj | RB2: you are using an offical isntaller not a live image? |
| 04:32.14 | RB2 | Correct |
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| 04:32.23 | somiaj | RB2: since you say fdisk, do the drives have MBR or GTP partition tables |
| 04:32.30 | somiaj | are you booting the installer in efi or legacy mode? |
| 04:32.34 | somiaj | (again just thoughts) |
| 04:33.46 | RB2 | somiaj, originally, they had no partitions... since I tried centos, they now have GPT. In both instances, fdisk correctly reflected the configuration. |
| 04:34.00 | RB2 | Also, have booted using UEFI as well as BIOS |
| 04:34.35 | somiaj | so fdisk sees the drives but can't read the partitions and the tool inside the installer can't even see the drive? |
| 04:34.53 | RB2 | fdisk can see the drives and the partitions |
| 04:35.04 | RB2 | the tool inside the installer sees nothing |
| 04:35.09 | somiaj | Are you using expert mode? I think in expert mode there is options to load some additional packages in the isntaller. Unsure if loading parted would help you at all. |
| 04:35.27 | somiaj | yea that is strange, I have no clue why it is not seeing the drives |
| 04:35.43 | somiaj | RB2: another random thought. think a wheezy installer would work? |
| 04:35.45 | RB2 | I was in expert mode last night, I can boot back up to it again |
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| 04:35.58 | somiaj | use a wheezy isntaller, install an minimial system, dist-upgrade to jessie |
| 04:36.37 | somiaj | RB2: well in expert mode I recall thre is an option to laod additional tools, such as cfdisk and gparted, unsure if loading these tools will improve what the installer actually sees or not. Again I'm just doing random guesses |
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| 04:36.57 | RB2 | I found a few ubuntu posts with the same issue, but usually setting acpi=off fixed it. |
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| 04:41.02 | somiaj | RB2: I'm unsure what to do. |
| 04:41.08 | somiaj | but those were my random thoughts. (: |
| 04:41.12 | RB2 | I appreciate it |
| 04:41.18 | RB2 | cfdisk sees them as well |
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| 04:53.15 | RB2 | somiaj, found yet another option. I'll let you know tomorrow how it works out. |
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| 05:11.11 | mahem1 | Hmmmm, I wonder how I could grep for words that rhyme with a given one... |
| 05:13.09 | Walther | not very well |
| 05:14.44 | mahem1 | As one might imagine. |
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| 05:19.27 | tx2 | mahem1, phonetic string comparison |
| 05:19.31 | tx2 | it's a thing, google it ;) |
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| 05:23.51 | mahem1 | tx2: Phonetic, that is the word I was looking for. |
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| 05:50.28 | gzcwnk | got a problem with bacula, I need to rerun the install so it makes a new databse and tables, I tried apt-get install --reinstall bacula-server etc but no databse was made |
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| 05:54.18 | tx2 | probably need to delete them manually :) |
| 05:54.39 | tx2 | gzcwnk, also try doing apt-get remove [whatever the package is] --purge |
| 05:54.46 | tx2 | that will delete all configuration, and may include the database |
| 05:54.55 | tx2 | (make sure that is what you want though) |
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| 05:57.49 | gzcwnk | i deleted the database Ok |
| 05:58.15 | gzcwnk | well there seems to be a load of setup scripts missing |
| 05:58.25 | gzcwnk | taht's waht has buggered me |
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| 06:01.20 | Diegosys | http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VC62B-B013M-ASUS-Desktop/product-reviews/B00UFF74MW/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_3?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addFourStar&showViewpoints=0&filterByStar=three_star&pageNumber=1 <-- This gentleman has issues with debian on this box |
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| 06:01.36 | Diegosys | Is it the wireless adapter or debian's problem? |
| 06:01.44 | Diegosys | Can anyone take a look at that before I buy the machine? |
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| 06:08.47 | gzcwnk | well taht didnt work |
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| 06:08.49 | gzcwnk | :/ |
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| 06:21.18 | swift110-phone | Hey |
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| 06:41.30 | Diegosys | How do you think this will work with a debian install off a USB? |
| 06:43.47 | bazhang | find the chipset, then check the linux support |
| 06:44.19 | bazhang | it's nearly always the manufactureris issue |
| 06:44.33 | bazhang | 's |
| 06:44.54 | Diegosys | "Although I really like the device, I would not recommend it if you are planning on using it for a Linux based HTPC right now, Windows works great. I'm using one for HTPC chores and the other as an Ubuntu development machine." |
| 06:45.02 | Diegosys | Why do so many of these boxes have trouble with Linux? |
| 06:45.24 | Diegosys | http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-i3-5010U-Barebone-2-5-Inch-GB-BXi3H-5010/dp/B00UCOFYR8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449902632&sr=8-1&keywords=gigabyte+i3#customerReviews |
| 06:45.30 | bazhang | wifi for htpc |
| 06:45.36 | Diegosys | I can't seem to find a good little box like this without someone saying it has no Linux support. |
| 06:45.48 | Diegosys | Linux doesn't have good wifi support? |
| 06:45.52 | bazhang | you are framing it wrongly |
| 06:46.00 | bazhang | it's not a linux issue |
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| 06:46.18 | bazhang | if they dont offer drivers, thats on them |
| 06:46.53 | bazhang | what are you going to do the htpc with |
| 06:46.56 | Diegosys | Why do so many manufacturers not offer proper Linux support? |
| 06:47.00 | bazhang | ,v kodi |
| 06:47.01 | judd | Package: kodi on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 15.2~rc3+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 15.2+dfsg1-1+b1; stretch: 15.2+dfsg1-1+b1; jessie-multimedia: 5:14.2+repack-dmo1b1; sid-multimedia: 5:15.2-dmo3 |
| 06:47.05 | Diegosys | If they sell the thing without an OS they shoudl expect many to want to put Linux on it. |
| 06:47.17 | Diegosys | I want to use it as a desktop |
| 06:47.19 | Diegosys | for office work. |
| 06:47.37 | Diegosys | An i3 with an SSD and 4 GB of ram is all I need. |
| 06:47.40 | bazhang | no one can be bothered too, they want an appliance ready that instant of box opening |
| 06:48.00 | bazhang | what software for the htpc |
| 06:48.37 | Diegosys | I'll mostly be using the browser and a word processor and I'll want to use some video and music as well. |
| 06:49.04 | bazhang | homw theatre pc, that is htpc you realize |
| 06:49.41 | Diegosys | Yes. |
| 06:49.53 | bazhang | what software to get that done |
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| 06:53.52 | bazhang | guess he timed out |
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| 07:01.49 | cra1g321 | is it normal for a mdadm raid1 setup to be resycning after install ? my fresh install is only using 3.2GB, yet mdstat says resync = 25% |
| 07:03.21 | cra1g321 | its resyncing at .5% per a min :/ |
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| 07:04.21 | eagles0513875 | hey guys what package can i install a2ensite to a jessie virtual machine |
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| 07:05.03 | cra1g321 | resync = 25.8% (504009536/1952894976) finish=268.6min speed=89889K/sec |
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| 07:10.37 | beepie | cra1g321, it does take a long time |
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| 07:11.39 | beepie | cra1g321, using a bitmap can help |
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| 07:12.00 | beepie | eagles0513875, that should be apache2-utils or something |
| 07:12.23 | uxfi | hey cra1g321 |
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| 07:14.32 | cra1g321 | nevermind folks |
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| 07:19.07 | eagles0513875 | beepie: thanks ended up figuring that out. been a bit spoiled on ubuntu having that stuff installed didnt realize it wasnt installed when apache was |
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| 07:20.15 | beepie | eagles0513875, you actually don't really need a2enmod command because you can simply create symlinks in the mod-enabled directory |
| 07:20.31 | beepie | eagles0513875, it's still there for convenience |
| 07:20.38 | eagles0513875 | beepie: this is not a mod im trying to enable this is a site |
| 07:20.44 | beepie | eagles0513875, same thing |
| 07:20.49 | eagles0513875 | yet even after installing apache2-utils im still getting a command not found |
| 07:20.51 | beepie | eagles0513875, you simply make a symlink |
| 07:20.59 | eagles0513875 | symlink to what |
| 07:21.02 | beepie | eagles0513875, what command? |
| 07:21.05 | eagles0513875 | a2ensite |
| 07:21.19 | beepie | eagles0513875, if you look under /etc/apache2/sites-available, that'll give a hint of the default showing a symlink |
| 07:21.26 | eagles0513875 | ok |
| 07:21.32 | eagles0513875 | beepie: im following this btw https://wiki.debian.org/redmine |
| 07:21.42 | beepie | eagles0513875, actually the symlink would be in sites-enabled/ |
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| 07:22.23 | eagles0513875 | beepie: i dont have that i went for a very minimal install |
| 07:22.24 | beepie | eagles0513875, yeah and |
| 07:23.04 | beepie | eagles0513875, if you enabled it, there should be a new symlink |
| 07:23.09 | eagles0513875 | beepie: no sites-enabled directory |
| 07:23.18 | eagles0513875 | sites-available i created manually |
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| 07:23.31 | beepie | eagles0513875, is apache2-common installed? |
| 07:24.00 | beepie | eagles0513875, i think it's now instead called apache2-data |
| 07:24.19 | eagles0513875 | now its going to be |
| 07:24.30 | eagles0513875 | beepie: how come something lite data isnt set as a dependency for apache |
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| 07:24.57 | beepie | eagles0513875, it would of installed if you setup the main/virtual package |
| 07:25.21 | beepie | !apache2 |
| 07:25.22 | dpkg | apache2 is actually version 2.2 in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"; this is a virtual package provided by a worker, ask me <apache2 mpm>. Ask me about <install apache>, <apache config>, <apache manual> and <apache backport>; see also <cnrd>, <userdir>, <apache2 ecc>. Additional help in #httpd on irc.freenode.net |
| 07:25.25 | eagles0513875 | ahh ok. doing a clean reinstall from scratch |
| 07:25.31 | beepie | eagles0513875, don't need to |
| 07:25.35 | beepie | eagles0513875, why? |
| 07:26.02 | beepie | eagles0513875, you can always do an apt-get --reinstall install apache2 |
| 07:26.13 | beepie | eagles0513875, if you messed up or damaged some of the core files |
| 07:26.23 | beepie | eagles0513875, (for apache2) |
| 07:26.41 | eagles0513875 | will try that |
| 07:26.53 | beepie | eagles0513875, you didn't damage anything |
| 07:27.11 | beepie | eagles0513875, there are many server/daemons where you can choose not to install common files |
| 07:27.13 | eagles0513875 | beepie: im a bit concerned as i manually created the sites-available folder |
| 07:27.27 | beepie | eagles0513875, you can always rmdir it, |
| 07:27.51 | beepie | eagles0513875, though it doesn't really matter, it's mainly just root:root rwxrwxrx |
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| 07:28.10 | eagles0513875 | whats the procedure for updating the wiki page i linked earlier |
| 07:28.13 | eagles0513875 | damn thing is missing a step |
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| 07:29.20 | beepie | eagles0513875, that guide assumes you've installed the apache2 pacakge |
| 07:30.42 | eagles0513875 | ok. |
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| 07:42.03 | poffs | i'm kinda new to ssh... i mean... i can use it to execute remove commands, but can I use SSH somehow in place of a Samba server? I need to be able to mount a remote directory from a local network resource and I'm not sure how best to do it. Gotta be secure - no assumptions made about the security of the network. |
| 07:42.12 | poffs | *remote commands |
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| 07:42.30 | eagles0513875 | poffs: ssh isnt geared for that though |
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| 07:42.48 | eagles0513875 | at least not that i am aware of anyway |
| 07:42.59 | nkuttler | poffs: sshfs |
| 07:43.21 | eagles0513875 | humm then i stand corrected and learned something new :) thanks nkuttler |
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| 07:57.07 | poffs | anyone know how to build a RAID1 on an existing system? I've been looking at mdadm for a bit and made some notes, but I don't have extra drives to test on, so i need some advice from someone who has done it before. My quick notes: https://paste.debian.net/plain/343501 |
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| 07:58.43 | bazhang | !raid |
| 07:58.43 | dpkg | Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks (RAID) is a system of multiple hard drives for sharing or replicating data. Ask me about RAID{0-5}, <software raid>, <fakeraid>, <megaraid>, <raid-resizing>, <rocketraid>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins |
| 07:58.55 | bazhang | poffs, ^ |
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| 07:59.09 | bazhang | poffs, read the debian wiki first and foremost |
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| 08:01.05 | poffs | bazhang, all info I have found so far is about setting up a RAID on a new install before any data has been written to the disks |
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| 08:04.39 | bazhang | why raid at all |
| 08:05.03 | bazhang | that just seems so pre-cloud |
| 08:05.37 | poffs | bazhang, .... lel |
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| 08:19.56 | XeonSquared | How hard would it be to combine all 3 DVD images into one disk image, capable of installing? |
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| 08:22.59 | bazhang | XeonSquared, a net install would take way less time |
| 08:23.14 | poffs | why are the openssl packages so out of date? The changelog says it was last updated in July. |
| 08:23.24 | XeonSquared | This would be for USB use, of course. |
| 08:23.37 | bazhang | XeonSquared, did you need some sort of mass deployment apt mirror |
| 08:23.49 | XeonSquared | that would probably be more sane |
| 08:24.02 | XeonSquared | but we don't have a spare box with a 500GB drive |
| 08:24.19 | bazhang | its probably 40GB per repo |
| 08:24.39 | bazhang | ,v aptoncd |
| 08:24.40 | judd | Package: aptoncd on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.1.98+bzr117-1.1; wheezy: 0.1.98+bzr117-1.2; jessie: 0.1.98+bzr117-1.4; sid: 0.1.98+bzr117-1.4 |
| 08:26.18 | XeonSquared | 350GB for all, amd64 and i386 |
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| 08:30.32 | bazhang | sounds right |
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| 08:36.23 | musca | XeonSquared: you could use the first blueray disc image, its size is about 25 GB |
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| 08:37.35 | XeonSquared | That sounds like it would probably have what we need |
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| 08:40.26 | XeonSquared | I could also use approx I guess |
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| 09:08.25 | Infinity_ | Go to http://www.truthcontest.com , read the top entries, and spread the truth. This will blow your mind. As said in the books, the truth is like water, and it will slip through your fingers. The translations are available on http://www.truthcontest.com/translations.html |
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| 09:10.01 | soundtoxin | is non-debian troubleshooting allowed here if it's related to something generic? |
| 09:10.15 | cast | ^if it was any good it would be packaged for debian</life philosophy> |
| 09:10.33 | soundtoxin | it is |
| 09:10.34 | cast | soundtoxin: not really |
| 09:10.36 | soundtoxin | my issue is with X |
| 09:10.37 | soundtoxin | oh I see |
| 09:10.51 | SynrG | how is X non-Debian? |
| 09:10.52 | cast | are you having issues with X in Debian? |
| 09:11.00 | soundtoxin | SynrG: I'm not on Debian |
| 09:11.01 | soundtoxin | cast: no |
| 09:11.16 | SynrG | then no, it's not supported here |
| 09:11.34 | SynrG | if you want to reproduce your issue on Debian, we'd be happy to support you |
| 09:11.35 | soundtoxin | aaagh |
| 09:11.56 | soundtoxin | well when debian was on this machine I don't think I had any X issues |
| 09:12.05 | soundtoxin | so it could very well be related to the version of xorg or nvidia drivers |
| 09:12.08 | soundtoxin | so no use in that I guess |
| 09:12.21 | soundtoxin | man maybe I should've pretended I was on debian to get help |
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| 09:12.30 | soundtoxin | #archlinux is pretty dead right now and this matter is somewhat urgent |
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| 09:14.17 | cast | there may well be an xorg channel |
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| 09:15.57 | soundtoxin | cast: ah thanks that's a good point |
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| 09:20.01 | SynrG | soundtoxin: i appreciate you asking first to find out we don't support you instead of pretending. best of luck |
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| 09:21.09 | SynrG | i've heard the web is a place where things can be looked up ... also the documentation ... also the source :) |
| 09:21.14 | soundtoxin | SynrG: no problem. I love Debian, have just moved on for the most part. Still run it on some servers |
| 09:21.28 | soundtoxin | well I'm no programmer so I probably won't take a look at the source but yeah I'm asking several places and looking things up furiously right now |
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| 09:26.27 | beepie | soundtoxin, you mean you moved on because you now moved back to windows? |
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| 09:26.31 | beepie | what? |
| 09:26.34 | beepie | lol |
| 09:27.13 | Diegosys | Can I put Debian on my Kangaroo Desktop PC? |
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| 09:28.50 | soundtoxin | beepie: no I moved from debian to arch |
| 09:28.53 | soundtoxin | would never use windows.. |
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| 09:35.31 | beepie | Tarminquay, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgV-K3NKc7k |
| 09:36.39 | poffs | hey I am getting "bad argument iprange" "bad argument owner" bad argument UDP, etc. what is wrong? iptables 1.4.21. Do I need to install some kernel modules? |
| 09:37.41 | SynrG | beepie: um. nothing there indicates that's debian ... |
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| 09:38.19 | SynrG | Tarminquay: some of these newer integrated intel systems need a new kernel, xorg, and mesa. the first two, at least, are in jessie-backports |
| 09:38.36 | Tarminquay | Says he disabled legacy boot |
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| 09:41.26 | SynrG | ah. z8500 is Cherryview. yes, that needs a newer kernel and xorg |
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| 09:42.31 | SynrG | Tarminquay: dri may be broken without a mesa backport. so, no 3d accel (or broken 3d accel) as a consequence |
| 09:43.42 | SynrG | Tarminquay: so debian stable may not run well on that system. though testing might (although that's not recommended for users) |
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| 09:46.39 | poffs | how do i install iptables kernel modules? |
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| 09:46.46 | poffs | using jessie |
| 09:48.05 | beepie | poffs, what -m <> option are you using with iptables? |
| 09:48.16 | Brigo | poffs, i think you don't need to install them. |
| 09:49.03 | beepie | poffs, generally it's modprobe iptable_filter, but it should of already been loaded |
| 09:49.12 | poffs | -m pkttype, state, owner, iprange |
| 09:49.25 | beepie | poffs, so you might need one for pkgttype |
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| 09:51.31 | beepie | poffs, find /lib/modules|grep pkt |
| 09:51.43 | beepie | poffs, should reveal xt_pkttype |
| 09:52.00 | beepie | poffs, the manpage also indicates that a module is used for -m pkttype |
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| 09:52.15 | beepie | poff, the fuller manpage is now called "iptables-extensions" |
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| 09:52.51 | beepie | poffs, modprobe it |
| 09:52.57 | beepie | poffs, then iptables -m should work |
| 09:53.38 | beepie | poffs, though depending on use case you might be required to do some param options-- you can see examples in hte manpge (for setting options for modules you use options key lines in /etc/modprobe.d) |
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| 10:02.50 | panagos | hi all, I have a hosted server which is using mucho bandwidth |
| 10:03.13 | panagos | installed ntop and from the gui over the last 5-6 hours, i see "Netbios-IP" being responsible for about 25% (about 500mb) |
| 10:03.31 | panagos | this is an ubuntu 12.04 server edition |
| 10:03.46 | SynrG | right, well, see #ubuntu, then |
| 10:03.51 | panagos | :) |
| 10:04.17 | panagos | ok will do thanks SynrG |
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| 10:06.31 | panagos | was just wondering if anyone else could confirm if this is normal behaviour (when it comes to "NBios-IP") or if there is something I need to be concerned about, |
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| 10:12.36 | SynrG | panagos: your own distribution support will be best able to help you determine what's "normal" or not. netbios protocols are notoriously "chatty", so if the server is on a network with other windows hosts, it may be passing a lot of traffic. if your distro support is not around/able to answer your question, use other tools at your disposal (doc, mailing lists, forums, google) |
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| 10:23.06 | tjcarter | Just wondering, is there anyone around who happens to understand printing-related stuff at the ghostscript level? :) |
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| 10:24.53 | tjcarter | I have a PostScript filter to emulate an older printer, and I have no idea how to set such things up. |
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| 10:25.47 | nkuttler | tjcarter: might want to ask in a channel like #latex or ##postscript |
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| 10:26.49 | tjcarter | nkuttler: Thanks for the suggestion, probably ##postscript is going to be my best bet. But it's ultimately going to be a bit beyond that since ideally I'd like to set up a serial port to listen for stuff to be sent to that old printer and spew it out of a modern one. :) |
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| 10:28.03 | tjcarter | Specifically, an ImageWriter II. As in Print Shop. For use witb … Print Shop circa 1980s. Because reasons. |
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| 10:33.31 | Caelum | ah found it, /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 10:33.48 | tjcarter | Behold the problem-solving power of #debian |
| 10:34.58 | Caelum | I had hash sum mismatches that wouldn't go away on partial updates, deleting all the lists fixed it. |
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| 10:35.50 | lotharn | tjcarter: you can tunnel it, if the printer can accept the hardcoded pdl |
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| 10:36.53 | gcr2 | Hello. I'm using Debian 8 i686 & I cant't find ecryptfs in repos. My sources list https://paste.debian.net/343509/ |
| 10:36.54 | tjcarter | lotharn: *nods, pretending he knows what a pdl is* :) |
| 10:37.29 | lotharn | tjcarter: like PS or PCL |
| 10:37.43 | lotharn | tjcarter: the laserjet II |
| 10:37.46 | tjcarter | Those I know. |
| 10:37.59 | lotharn | page description language |
| 10:38.39 | lotharn | you can buy printers with emulation going back to the mitroonix |
| 10:38.40 | tjcarter | I sort of figured whatever I'd be doing would probably have to be set up in CUPS. |
| 10:39.06 | lotharn | well it is, but cups just routes it to another port |
| 10:39.14 | tjcarter | ah, I follow. |
| 10:39.18 | lotharn | and the printer handles it |
| 10:39.34 | tjcarter | I'm certain that my Epson doesn't speak PostScript. |
| 10:39.55 | lotharn | otherwise you use the various file emulators and do it that way before printing it again to cups |
| 10:39.57 | tjcarter | so there'd be a ghostscript in the way. in there somewhere. |
| 10:40.27 | lotharn | i know waay too much about printing |
| 10:40.32 | lotharn | i should have a job |
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| 10:41.02 | lotharn | youd be surprised what your printer will print in emulation without much interference |
| 10:41.23 | lotharn | but printers these days are pretty much a suicide machine |
| 10:41.56 | tjcarter | So … listen on a serial port, consider a job terminator maybe to be a printer reset or a formfeed or whatever (need to look into that, those old dot matrix printers weren't page-based necessarily), and spit out a print job to the default printer when that happens? |
| 10:42.15 | tjcarter | That's kinda how I figured it would work. |
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| 10:42.44 | lotharn | nothing is page based at this level |
| 10:42.50 | lotharn | its a stream regardless |
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| 10:43.09 | lotharn | just getting data from point a to b |
| 10:43.22 | tjcarter | You've got to figure out how to define an end of stream somehow. |
| 10:43.31 | lotharn | control-d |
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| 10:43.41 | lotharn | really its usually that simple |
| 10:43.51 | lotharn | just symbols on a wire |
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| 10:44.12 | tjcarter | It's not that simple if a ^d isn't sent by the Apple. |
| 10:44.32 | lotharn | right |
| 10:44.44 | lotharn | it would send its own ^d |
| 10:44.49 | lotharn | . |
| 10:44.56 | tjcarter | Which involves the filter knowing when to do so. |
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| 10:45.06 | lotharn | but its irrelevant is what im saying |
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| 10:45.25 | lotharn | the app outputs laserwriter2? |
| 10:45.48 | lotharn | or the apple |
| 10:46.09 | lotharn | are you trying to get an apple 2 to print or something? |
| 10:46.14 | tjcarter | Yes |
| 10:46.24 | lotharn | oh lord |
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| 10:46.34 | tjcarter | never pretended that he was sane. |
| 10:47.03 | lotharn | uh well do you know what the levels and baud rate are for the apple? |
| 10:47.25 | tjcarter | Oh yeah, I currently use serial links all the time between the two. |
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| 10:48.30 | lotharn | oh. well, you can pipe a com port to something else right? |
| 10:48.51 | tjcarter | On the Apple or under Linux? |
| 10:49.03 | lotharn | on a gnu box |
| 10:49.06 | lotharn | yeah |
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| 10:49.30 | tjcarter | Sure, I can just read from the tty instead of stdin |
| 10:50.06 | lotharn | so whats expecting laserwriter 31 data? |
| 10:50.15 | lotharn | or whatever you have |
| 10:50.40 | tjcarter | An Epson printer set up with foomatic, basically. |
| 10:50.54 | lotharn | sounds like a plan |
| 10:51.23 | tjcarter | If I can figure this out, I'll generalize the instructions, write a few helper scripts to help people get it set up, etc. |
| 10:51.25 | lotharn | why do you want to print from the 80s like youre in the 80s |
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| 10:51.53 | lotharn | i did a thing with dosbox that worked exactly the same way |
| 10:52.11 | Caelum | I only ever print anything like once every few months, and when I need to do that my printer doesn't work :/ |
| 10:52.15 | tjcarter | A lot of software from that era was hardcoded to support only a couple of printers. Print Shop for example. |
| 10:52.32 | lotharn | right |
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| 10:52.52 | lotharn | i used cups and a nice workgroup emulation printer |
| 10:53.00 | lotharn | routed it all over ip |
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| 10:53.26 | tjcarter | I'm sort of taking over maintenance of a project for using Debian boxes and RPis as peripherals and servers and whatnot for Apple // computers for no terribly good reason other than why not? ;) |
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| 10:53.56 | lotharn | youre paid to do this? |
| 10:54.04 | tjcarter | Nah |
| 10:54.08 | lotharn | yeah screw that idea |
| 10:54.12 | lotharn | just network them |
| 10:54.30 | tjcarter | That's easy on an Apple IIgs. |
| 10:55.01 | tjcarter | It's difficult on a //e (the required hardware isn't common) |
| 10:55.22 | nabblet | hi, i'm running a netinst on a laptop and require firmware. I extracted the required file from https://packages.debian.org/de/sid/firmware-iwlwifi to a FAT32 formatted pendrive (into the prendrives root directory) but the installer does not acknowledge the driver with the files. What am I doing wrong? |
| 10:55.24 | tjcarter | On a IIgs you'd just set up AppleTalk and share the printer with netatalk. |
| 10:55.44 | nabblet | Addon info: The installer is running from a pendrive itself. |
| 10:56.02 | lotharn | rip out the insides and replace it with a rasberrypi |
| 10:56.20 | lotharn | prolly work better |
| 10:56.24 | tjcarter | lotharn: We DO put Raspberry Pis in the Apples. |
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| 10:56.40 | lotharn | now im confused |
| 10:57.04 | tjcarter | We plug the Pi in by its GPIO into some buffering hardware and stick it in a slot. |
| 10:57.13 | lotharn | huh? |
| 10:57.31 | lotharn | whats it do? |
| 10:57.46 | lotharn | give it a serial port? |
| 10:57.54 | tjcarter | https://youtu.be/Kx_ggKHWaxA |
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| 10:58.27 | tjcarter | He's got a program running on his Apple //c that turns the Apple into peripherals for a Pi. |
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| 10:59.28 | nabblet | Do I have to maintain the folder structure of the firmware package for installation? |
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| 10:59.56 | tjcarter | Full access to the floppy drives (useful for imaging the floppies), we use the Pi as basically an oldschool shell-based Internet connection for the Apple. |
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| 11:00.16 | tjcarter | nabblet: I've never had to do that, so I'm not 100% sure how it works. |
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| 11:00.59 | nabblet | I don't understand why it just won't accept the FAT32 pen drive with the files on it :/ |
| 11:01.21 | tjcarter | nabblet: I didn't know the that even worked. |
| 11:01.28 | tjcarter | (and I wonder if it doesn't.) |
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| 11:01.58 | nabblet | huh? |
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| 11:02.58 | tjcarter | nabblet: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware contains what I just found on the subject |
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| 11:03.37 | tjcarter | That hasn't been updated for Jessie, but the process is much the same |
| 11:03.53 | tjcarter | Oh, it has! |
| 11:04.28 | lotharn | tjcarter: i like the part at the end where he doesnt have any idea what he made |
| 11:04.29 | nabblet | there is also http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 11:04.49 | tjcarter | lotharn: That was pretty early on |
| 11:06.00 | nabblet | I'll just go with the unifficial image but I'd be interested what's wrong with my original (=officially endorsed) way :( |
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| 11:06.47 | lotharn | i think slip does that |
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| 11:08.22 | tjcarter | There's a project called Raspple II which produces Raspbian and Debian images that provide A2SERVER (a customized netatalk for the IIgs and //e if you have one of the rare AppleTalk cards), A2CLOUD (an image transfer suite written in asm on the 6502 and Java on Win/Mac/Linux) which also has the ability tio provide a "hard drive" over serial port (limited, but useful in a pinch), A2Pi which has grown to |
| 11:08.23 | tjcarter | actually be a pretty good way to "accelrate" your Apple // and give it access to features you don't have in real 8-bit-compatible silicon, and a few other odds and ends. |
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| 11:10.13 | tjcarter | Granted the idea of using your Apple // as a glorified vt100 which only supports ASCII is not my preferred way of accessing the Internet, but again it's a very convenient way to go and grab an old game off asimov :) |
| 11:11.35 | tjcarter | Want Choplifter? Have a A2CLOUD installed on your RPi or Debian box? Just load up ProTERM on your Apple, use lynx or lftp or whatever to go download it, sz it to yourself, and throw it on a floppy or hard drive or virtual floppy or whatever. |
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| 11:12.28 | tjcarter | Of course I can just copy that to a USB stick and plug it into my CFFA3000 and copy it to my CF "hard drive" as a virtual floppy image, but if I had a lesser floppy drive replacement or was using real floppies, that's an option. |
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| 11:14.18 | teclo- | morning |
| 11:14.24 | tjcarter | None of this stuff is presently in Debian. Some of it probably can't be. It certainly describes the ages-old question of whether Debian shouldn't be divided into "core" and "wtf-uses-this", and although it's presently all written to be Debian/Raspbian-centric, I'll probably never try to actually get the project uploaded to Debian proper. |
| 11:14.24 | teclo- | sounds quite interesting tjcarter |
| 11:14.54 | tjcarter | But I know how to use reprepro and I can sign a repo. :P |
| 11:15.32 | tjcarter | I don't think I still have my old GnuPG key—and anyway it was a 1024 bit DSA job. |
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| 11:16.33 | tjcarter | So if I ever wanted to come out of retirement I'd have to find someone still involved who is local enough I can meet 'em for coffee. Back in the day that was David Welton, but I think he's also retired by now. |
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| 11:18.37 | SynrG | tjcarter: https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning |
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| 11:19.16 | SynrG | tjcarter: and particularly (linked from that page) https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Coordination |
| 11:19.39 | tjcarter | teclo-: It IS interesting. Practical/useful probably less. And as I said it probably can't go into Debian because even the basic OS is pretty much abandonware at this point. Apple owns it, never (officially) released it, and they don't discuss it. Source code exists, people have it, bugs have been fixed, and the OS installer for netboot stuff will install either Apple's latest (bugs and all) or the |
| 11:19.40 | tjcarter | community versions, with the caveat that'd never be good enough for Debian that it's there, if YOU decide to download and install it, YOU take whatever responsibility comes from that if Apple ever decided they DO care. |
| 11:20.24 | SynrG | things that depend on non-free things but themselves are free might at least go into contrib |
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| 11:22.59 | tjcarter | SynrG: Back in the day, I'd be the one of the FIRST people on debian-legal to suggest that if something is known to be not only non-free but actually a recognized infringement of Copyright (even if the Copyright holder has chosen not to care), the script that would download such software MIGHT be considered potentially encouraging Copyright infringement and MIGHT be subject to the same crap they go after |
| 11:23.00 | tjcarter | torrent search engines for. |
| 11:23.32 | tjcarter | It's technically correct, and as we all know, that is the most important kind of correct! :) |
| 11:24.12 | SynrG | nice |
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| 11:24.53 | SynrG | or "nice" ;) |
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| 11:26.59 | tjcarter | SynrG: That doesn't mean I can't ask Carl Worth if he can meet me somewhere and for coffee and sign my key so that I can contribute netatalk fixes and whatnot. |
| 11:27.13 | tjcarter | I think we discussed that before. |
| 11:27.37 | Antares | hello everyone, I've got a problem here I can't solve. I'm running Debian Jessie 64-bit on my computer. Yesterday I did apt-get upgrade and 'dist-upgrade' and upon rebooting the system, my sound is gone. Also the xfce4-mixer is missing and can't be installed (missing package). |
| 11:27.51 | Antares | I am using ALSA and not pulseaudio... xfce4 as my DE |
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| 11:28.47 | Antares | How to get the sound working again? Is there a way to completely reinstall the sound drivers or ALSA or something? Also I would really like to use the xfce4-mixer again. |
| 11:29.12 | tjcarter | I am still of the opinion that the best thing we can do is make netatalk 2 be effectively DDP-only and undo/fix whatever they screwed up in 2.2.5 that worked in 2.2.4 and installable alongside netatalk 3 for modern features, or have both with conflicts/replaces. You get to pick: Ancient hardware support, or modern feature support? |
| 11:29.17 | nabblet | Antares: do you happen to know if you updated anything sound related? |
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| 11:29.55 | Antares | nabblet, no, sorry :( .. there were a lot of packages being updated...a long list, didn't go through it since usually upgrading does not crash anything |
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| 11:30.36 | Antares | I did install and remove "ardour4" |
| 11:31.00 | Antares | but the sound stopped working after the upgrade...when i had ardour installed it worked fine |
| 11:31.39 | Antares | I'll try to switch to the other audio card (pci) i have in my computer ... wait a min. |
| 11:32.58 | Antares | nabblet, what about this? |
| 11:33.18 | Antares | ackage xfce4-mixer is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 11:33.31 | Antares | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 11:33.32 | Antares | is only available from another source |
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| 11:34.34 | Antares | nabblet, ok my PCI card works... (using alsamixer from terminal to regulate the volumes) |
| 11:34.45 | Antares | but my HDMI does not send any sound to my tv |
| 11:36.00 | nabblet | Antares: i see you're on track and there is not much advice I can give on hdmi sound anyway :P Good luck! |
| 11:36.15 | Antares | hahaha |
| 11:36.18 | Antares | thanks ;D |
| 11:36.37 | Antares | I just edited my /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf file to select the default soundcard to playback audio |
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| 11:37.05 | Antares | I've been using this method for 6 months now |
| 11:37.10 | Antares | since i disabled pulseaudio |
| 11:37.18 | Antares | then just /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart |
| 11:37.25 | tjcarter | notes sound on Linux hasn't improved remar^W_any_ in 12 years. |
| 11:37.26 | Antares | and the changes are applied |
| 11:37.37 | Antares | but If i switch to my hdmi since yesterday it doesn't work |
| 11:38.01 | Antares | the card is being shown normally in aplay -l and other commands that list sound cards |
| 11:38.05 | tjcarter | If anything, PulseAudio might be a step backwards. :P |
| 11:38.18 | Antares | I hate pulseaudio |
| 11:38.29 | tjcarter | Everybody hates PulseAudio. |
| 11:38.38 | Antares | that's why I removed it and since then everything worked like a charm for me using alsa |
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| 11:38.52 | tjcarter | it's like EsounD but it sucks a little le—no again, it sucks exactly the same. :) |
| 11:39.03 | Antares | but when upgrading my system yesterday... hdmi sound doesn't work anymore |
| 11:40.20 | tjcarter | The other thing that still has you tearing your hair out is getting compositing features up and running. |
| 11:41.08 | tjcarter | Unless you can stand the massive bloat associated with the heavy DEs, you're going to be doing a LOT of tinkering. |
| 11:41.23 | tjcarter | And even the light DEs are still pretty heavy nowadays. |
| 11:41.42 | Antares | I have no resource problems on my computer :P |
| 11:42.07 | Antares | Even though I am using a pretty light DE...I never experienced any issues with using the "fancy" ones |
| 11:42.09 | nabblet | when Installing debian, i can select different GUIs. What does "Debian desktop environment" stand for? |
| 11:42.22 | Antares | nabblet, the login page |
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| 11:42.34 | tjcarter | Given that I have an Atom-based nettop behind me that runs as close to a DE as I get… |
| 11:42.36 | Antares | either you login with a GUI or from terminal |
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| 11:43.01 | Antares | tjcarter, ;) using a high-end desktop computer here |
| 11:43.15 | Antares | nabblet, I tried both |
| 11:43.27 | nabblet | huh? |
| 11:43.27 | Antares | When i removed the option to install debian desktop enviroment |
| 11:43.31 | nabblet | ah ok! |
| 11:43.34 | Antares | when the computer boots up |
| 11:43.40 | Antares | it doesn not boot automatically into X |
| 11:43.48 | tjcarter | I'm using one that was pretty mid-to-high-end a couple years ago myself |
| 11:43.50 | nabblet | but there is gnome, or nothing at all? |
| 11:43.53 | Antares | instead you normally login, then do "startx" |
| 11:43.57 | Antares | there is |
| 11:44.06 | tjcarter | 32 GB RAM, 3TB primary hard drive, SSD cache |
| 11:44.10 | Antares | just doesn't pop-up the login screen and automatically startx when you login |
| 11:44.12 | Antares | that's all |
| 11:44.20 | tjcarter | But it's not running Gnome or KDE, I tell you that. :P |
| 11:44.20 | nabblet | i see. Thanks. Will go xfce i guess |
| 11:44.31 | Antares | Yeah i use xfce4 also |
| 11:44.53 | Antares | but it's a bit of a pain having to type startx everytime I login :P Next time I will install the "debian desktop enviroment" as well :P |
| 11:45.00 | Antares | (as I did on my laptop) |
| 11:45.08 | nabblet | the laptop is for seomone else (ho comes from Windows). Personally i use fluxbox. |
| 11:45.09 | tjcarter | Some years ago I needed a _working_ desktop with compatibility with Redmond-based crapware. |
| 11:45.29 | tjcarter | And I mean real compatibility. |
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| 11:46.00 | nabblet | funny, it is weired for me to install linux in any other language than english... |
| 11:46.00 | tjcarter | My options were a non-free UNIX box that needed more mouse buttons and a Wintendo Entertainment System. |
| 11:46.06 | tjcarter | I bought a Mac. :) |
| 11:46.15 | tjcarter | and a mouse. :P |
| 11:46.19 | nabblet | :D |
| 11:47.02 | tjcarter | (The mouse is no longer a requirement unless you game. Just get the trackpad and call it good.) |
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| 11:47.40 | tjcarter | still has his trusty old Diamondback if he needs it |
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| 11:48.51 | tjcarter | Didn't wind up with another Linux desktop after that until rather recently. Linux servers sure, but hasn't been necessary for Desktop. |
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| 11:50.02 | tjcarter | That might change in the not too distant future. I don't like this trend of replacing USB on everything for iPhone dock connectors. :P |
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| 11:54.09 | tjcarter | This unfortunately means some rough adjustments for me in terms of keyboard habits and I have yet to configure anything under Linux to use the screen filtering features I kinda depend on. |
| 11:54.32 | tjcarter | is legally blind and therefore requires fonts best described as f**king HUGE. |
| 11:55.10 | tjcarter | also screen zoom and inverting colors. "Easy" to do with a compositing WM. Not easy otherwise because X still sucks donkey. |
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| 12:37.30 | poffs | "Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 12:38.24 | poffs | wut... i'm on jessie with jessie-backports (main contrib) jessie-updates (main contrib) and jessie/updates (main contrib) in my sources.list |
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| 12:39.44 | poffs | "Package 'build-essential' has no installation candidate" |
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| 12:42.01 | poffs | can someone dump their functional sources.list to a pastebin? for debian jessie, preferably |
| 12:45.07 | poffs | i didn't select a mirror on install |
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| 12:49.04 | Brigo | poffs, ask dpkg |
| 12:49.43 | Brigo | dpkg, tell poffs about sources.lost |
| 12:49.45 | Brigo | dpkg, tell poffs about sources.list |
| 12:49.52 | poffs | dpkg, sources.list |
| 12:49.52 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 12:53.25 | poffs | ah, thanks dpkg/ Brigo. I didn't have "jessie main" and just had updates/security/backports |
| 12:54.18 | Brigo | poffs, jessie main is the 99% :) |
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| 13:01.11 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 13:03.06 | Joost | I adjusted my gamma using xgamma, but whenever I e.g. lock my screen, reboot, unsuspend etc, it gets reste |
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| 13:03.15 | Joost | what would be a good way to make this setting permanent? |
| 13:03.33 | mcgreg | I am using iceweasel and I would like it to show the date in german style dd/mm/yyyy , it does mm/dd/yyy as far as I can can see. although KDE does it right. where do I have to set it? |
| 13:03.44 | Joost | (using gnome3 btw) |
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| 13:04.48 | mcgreg | erm I mean icedove |
| 13:04.53 | mcgreg | the mail client |
| 13:05.38 | moxy1238 | I want to spoof my mac address 'before' I connect to any of my wifi ap's, preferably when I boot (initrc.d was it?) ?? |
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| 13:06.20 | poffs | moxy1238, apt-get install macchanger. you may want to run it on boot before network connectivity. I use it. |
| 13:07.15 | moxy1238 | (I've got the notes on how to use macchanger, net and ipconfig up/down,, but I want to do my spoofing "at boot") |
| 13:07.37 | moxy1238 | hey poffs, yeah that's the way I do it at the library |
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| 13:10.45 | moxy1238 | in my flat/house, I've identified myself already, then stuffed up the arrangement I had through my daughter (I just chipped in on the $40 she was halving the bill with the account-holder),, and now I've made a deal with the account-holder but I want to change all my computer details (( so they don't get angry about before?lol-yaknow?) |
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| 13:11.11 | moxy1238 | poffs: you get that right? |
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| 13:16.52 | moxy1238 | https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Changing_Your_MAC_Address/Linux |
| 13:17.14 | moxy1238 | On Debian, Ubuntu, and similar systems, place the following in the appropriate section of /etc/network/interfaces (within an iface stanza, e.g., right after the gateway line) so that the MAC address is set when the network device is started: hwaddress ether 02:01:02:03:04:08 |
| 13:17.22 | moxy1238 | that's what I'm reading |
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| 13:18.14 | moxy1238 | and in my /etc/network/interfaces file I've got: iface lo inet loopback |
| 13:18.44 | unborn | hi moxy1238 what are you trying to accomplish by this? I mean we all understand you but I would highly suggest to speak to the person before spoofing and doing mess on networked machines.. |
| 13:18.53 | moxy1238 | so it makes sense that I'd just add the line; iface wlan0 inet |
| 13:19.53 | MACscr | is there a way to disable package authentication for a single repo? im having issues creating own gpg key and signing them (its appearing to work, but doesnt still says there is a problem when i run apt-get to install it |
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| 13:20.10 | MACscr | this is for my own internal use only repo |
| 13:20.16 | moxy1238 | I just want to control the "identity" of my machine (at boot-up-time) -- it's that simple |
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| 13:20.43 | MACscr | moxy1238: even simpler is not to change it |
| 13:20.44 | unborn | moxy1238, sure.. the reason? |
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| 13:21.43 | moxy1238 | (I understand that things may be more complicated now with systemd? and the googling could be counterproductive right now |
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| 13:22.36 | moxy1238 | unborn: in my flat/house, I've identified myself already, then stuffed up the arrangement I had through my daughter (I just chipped in on the $40 she was halving the bill with the account-holder),, and now I've made a deal with the account-holder but I want to change all my computer details (( so they don't get angry about before?lol-yaknow?) |
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| 13:23.32 | unborn | moxy1238, just speak to the person before you do any spoofing. no one will get angry about your change needs.. trust me - do it in legal way! |
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| 13:23.37 | moxy1238 | unborn: I was piggypacking on my daughter's payments, just giving 'her' $20 |
| 13:24.25 | unborn | moxy1238, doing illegal things could cost you more then 20 dollars, do it from her machine or speak to accountant.. best bet for you. |
| 13:24.32 | moxy1238 | unborn: there is nothing illegal about changing the mac address and hostname of your personal computer is there?? |
| 13:25.19 | moxy1238 | unborn: no no no , dude , it's just flatting , it's my home |
| 13:25.57 | moxy1238 | unborn: not a company or anything? |
| 13:25.58 | unborn | moxy1238, no sure its not, until you doing something with it - which you are trying to do.. it is very simple. do it from her computer or pick up the phone an call the person regards the changes you need to do.. |
| 13:26.12 | unborn | moxy1238, sure I am company.. |
| 13:26.53 | moxy1238 | ahh?? |
| 13:26.58 | unborn | moxy1238, if its in your home, just use machine of the person you need to change the things simple is that |
| 13:27.15 | moxy1238 | I don't get you?? |
| 13:27.48 | moxy1238 | "I am company" |
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| 13:28.38 | unborn | moxy1238, sure, I understand you aint get me - I would say this in normal human words - if you looking for spoofing or hacking - please dont look here - this is debian support channel and we do not provide help here for spoofing or anything illegal.. simple is that.. |
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| 13:29.22 | unborn | moxy1238, if you have issues with your deb, sure we are here to help you.. but no black hat here.. |
| 13:29.29 | moxy1238 | so are you saying that spoofing if illegal? |
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| 13:29.49 | moxy1238 | it's TOTALLY not black hat |
| 13:29.51 | moxy1238 | shux |
| 13:29.53 | unborn | moxy1238, if you have the question like that I suggest you to use google.. |
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| 13:30.23 | paxcoder | Hey. I can't manually configure a VPN through the Gnome configuration GUI, I'm only offered to "import from an archive", contrary to the online docs. Does anyone have an idea why that would be the case? |
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| 13:31.25 | moxy1238 | hmm |
| 13:31.28 | moxy1238 | all good |
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| 13:38.33 | abrotman | paxcoder: might want to specify which type of VPN, they have different packages to support them |
| 13:39.06 | paxcoder | abrotman: i don't even get to select that |
| 13:39.28 | abrotman | paxcoder: I meant, you sohuld know, you can tell us ... |
| 13:39.34 | paxcoder | It's Settings -> Network -> + -> VPN -> Import from an archive |
| 13:39.48 | abrotman | also,w hich version of Debian? |
| 13:40.06 | paxcoder | Debian 4.2.3-2 |
| 13:40.14 | paxcoder | should probably update |
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| 13:40.24 | abrotman | what? |
| 13:40.28 | abrotman | That's not a Debian version |
| 13:40.40 | paxcoder | uname -a says that's a debian version |
| 13:40.44 | abrotman | and your kernel won't impact your abililty to mangle a VPN connection |
| 13:40.47 | abrotman | paxcoder: lsb_release -a |
| 13:40.52 | duggles | paxcoder: uname gives the kernel version |
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| 13:41.05 | duggles | cat /etc/debian_release to get the actual version of debian you're running |
| 13:41.07 | paxcoder | duggles: it gives that and this |
| 13:41.19 | abrotman | None of those are the Debian version .. |
| 13:41.27 | paxcoder | abrotman: tell that to uname -a |
| 13:41.33 | abrotman | paxcoder: I know what the output is .. |
| 13:41.34 | paxcoder | that's a verbatim copy that line |
| 13:41.46 | paxcoder | (of a substring) |
| 13:41.48 | abrotman | again, not the Debian version |
| 13:41.54 | abrotman | paxcoder: lsb_release -a |
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| 13:42.36 | paxcoder | abrotman: testing/sid |
| 13:42.41 | paxcoder | *unstable |
| 13:42.52 | paxcoder | duggles: stretch/sid |
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| 13:42.55 | abrotman | obviously not the output of lsb_release -a either .. |
| 13:43.14 | paxcoder | abrotman: that's the relevant subset |
| 13:43.19 | abrotman | says you .. |
| 13:43.27 | paxcoder | i'm pretty sure |
| 13:43.35 | abrotman | paxcoder: apt-cache search vpn .. there are many paackages relating to the gnome VPN tools |
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| 13:44.07 | abrotman | I filed a bug some time ago that the dependencies were a little wonky, and didn't always result in being able to configure a VPN as you should be able to |
| 13:44.07 | paxcoder | values for all keys are comprised of a combination of that, Debian and n/a |
| 13:44.20 | paxcoder | "Debian" and "n/a" |
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| 13:44.42 | paxcoder | abrotman: were you expecting something else in the output? |
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| 13:45.25 | abrotman | paxcoder: such as, network-manager-gnome-openvpn (if you're not using network-manager, this may impact your ability to use the GUI tools) |
| 13:45.58 | abrotman | you may also need vpnc things, depending on the type of VPN (which you're withholding that information also) |
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| 13:46.48 | paxcoder | abrotman: i don't know it by heart tbh. and also is untrue, i gave you all the information from the output of the command you've suggested |
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| 13:47.06 | paxcoder | s/also/"also"/ |
| 13:47.18 | hest | here's a slightly stupid question about building from source: |
| 13:47.39 | paxcoder | installs network-manager |
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| 13:48.07 | hest | if i install the source for a package using 'apt-get source foo', make some small changes and then compile it using 'apt-get source --compile foo', get an error, make another small change to fix it... is there a way to rebuild it without cleaning everything first? |
| 13:48.24 | hest | i.e. run the equivalent of 'make all' without 'make clean' first? |
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| 13:48.50 | paxcoder | abrotman: didn't solve the problem i'm afraid |
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| 13:50.36 | paxcoder | and i'm pretty sure network-manager got connected because the config thingy crashed while dbus triggers were being processed for the packet |
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| 13:51.49 | hest | basically i don't want to wait another hour just because i made a small change in one source file. |
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| 13:52.07 | abrotman | paxcoder: you'll have to install the helper apps for VPNs, and probably restart gnome |
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| 13:54.20 | paxcoder | abrotman: which ones? network-manager-gnome-openvpn ain't a package afaics, and i failed to locate it after installing the above package and doing updatedb |
| 13:54.41 | abrotman | judd: versions network-manager-gnome-openvpn |
| 13:54.42 | judd | No package named 'network-manager-gnome-openvpn' was found in amd64. |
| 13:54.57 | paxcoder | gnome first* |
| 13:54.58 | paxcoder | ? |
| 13:55.08 | abrotman | judd: versions network-manager-openvpn-gnome |
| 13:55.10 | judd | Package: network-manager-openvpn-gnome on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.1-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.9.4.0-1; jessie: 0.9.10.0-1; sid: 1.0.8-1; stretch: 1.0.8-1 |
| 13:55.14 | paxcoder | nah |
| 13:55.24 | Jane-PC | network-openvpn |
| 13:55.27 | abrotman | it is a package, hence telling you to apt-cache search vpn |
| 13:55.31 | paxcoder | installs |
| 13:55.35 | Jane-PC | network-manager-openvpn * |
| 13:55.37 | abrotman | clearly shows you the correct package name |
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| 13:56.06 | abrotman | and that will only help you if you know it's an OpenVPN setup .. you may want the VPNC packages also |
| 13:56.50 | paxcoder | abrotman: yeah, got OpenVPN listed now. Derpendencies |
| 13:56.58 | paxcoder | thanks |
| 13:57.32 | paxcoder | then again, i guess only a minority of people use vpns |
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| 13:58.10 | abrotman | eh .. hardly .. but facts haven't stopped him before |
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| 14:02.24 | teraflops | Heh derpendencies |
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| 14:18.32 | hest | is there any 'standard' way to rebuild a debian package that is already partially compiled, without cleaning out all the compiled object files? should i run the makefile targets in debian/rules manually? |
| 14:19.33 | SirLagz | hest: just keep compiling it/ |
| 14:19.56 | hest | SirLagz: apt-get source --compile cleans out everything before it restarts. |
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| 14:29.54 | Guest15284 | i realy hate the look |
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| 14:30.49 | Tarminquay | Thoughts on Linux Lite OS? |
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| 14:31.19 | Guest15284 | i cant figure whats this look is |
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| 14:56.06 | aswin | Debian Security update failed |
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| 14:56.48 | aswin | apt-get update can't fetch security.debian.org |
| 14:56.53 | aswin | what to do? |
| 14:57.29 | aswin | It says conneting to security.debian.org |
| 14:58.20 | aswin | Please help to solve this |
| 14:59.19 | unborn | aswin, what distro version you use? j or w? |
| 14:59.45 | unborn | I mean jessie or wheezy? |
| 15:00.16 | aswin | jessie |
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| 15:00.23 | aswin | i386 |
| 15:00.49 | unborn | you should not have any issues.. jessie works on my end without single issues.. aswin |
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| 15:01.26 | unborn | aswin, can you try - sudo apt-get update? - on terminal |
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| 15:03.13 | amdp | hello everyone, I have an apache2 configuration that has different virtual hosts like pears.com and apples.com, but if I add a third level domain like chocolate.pears.com or mail.pears.com it shows me apples.com. I tried the debug level logging but found no hints. |
| 15:03.22 | unborn | aswin, then sudo apt-get upgrade :) |
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| 15:04.25 | aswin | unborn: sudo apt-get update is not able to fetch the updates from security.debian.org |
| 15:04.37 | aswin | that is the issue |
| 15:05.04 | aswin | The whole update process is stuck with that |
| 15:05.31 | unborn | amdp, you mean subdomains - the problem you have is within your config - you did not specified the subdomain or ip of it or its not configured at all.. just have look at your apache configs.. if everything is okay then just re-start apache.. meh you should use bind 9 for this kind of things or perhaps much easier virtualmin running on debian |
| 15:06.20 | unborn | aswin, I see.. read this :) http://serverfault.com/questions/656030/sudo-apt-get-update-is-not-updating-repositories-in-debian-wheezy |
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| 15:07.00 | amdp | unborn: apache configs are sites-available and apache.conf? |
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| 15:08.15 | unborn | amdp it all depends on what version of apache are you using.. the old one or apache 4? |
| 15:08.52 | abrotman | aswin: Is it trying to connect via IPv6? |
| 15:09.35 | unborn | abrotman, he just have problem in general without knowing if he is using IPv4 or IPv6.. i guess.. |
| 15:10.58 | amdp | unborn: 2.4.10 |
| 15:10.59 | unborn | amdp, I guess you are on apache 2.2 so search for httpd.conf |
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| 15:11.30 | amdp | unborn: debian jessie :-) |
| 15:12.31 | unborn | amdp, by default it should sits here: /home/[user-name]/apache/conf/httpd.conf |
| 15:13.17 | unborn | amdp, or have look at /usr/local/apache2 |
| 15:14.13 | abrotman | unborn: Didn't ask you .. |
| 15:14.25 | unborn | abrotman, and? |
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| 15:14.45 | abrotman | and now gone .. glad you see you didn't help |
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| 15:15.22 | amdp | unborn: are you sure? no http.conf with find / -name httpd.conf |
| 15:15.36 | amdp | *d |
| 15:15.59 | abrotman | it's not httpd.conf in Debian by default |
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| 15:16.08 | unborn | abramart, that is irrelevant I helped user in general - if he chose to dump this irc channel its all good. he may did not understand me.. |
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| 15:16.19 | unborn | amdp, perhaps this would help https://www.linode.com/docs/security/upgrading/updating-virtual-host-settings-from-apache-2-2-to-apache-2-4 |
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| 15:16.39 | abrotman | unborn: of course he didn't understand you |
| 15:16.45 | amdp | abrotman: could it be apache2.conf in /etc/apache2/ |
| 15:17.07 | amdp | unborn: are you sure you know the issue? |
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| 15:17.22 | abrotman | amdp: apache2.conf is the main file, yes |
| 15:17.23 | aswin | I tried apt-get update after removing the security update from the sources.list, and its works |
| 15:17.30 | unborn | abrotman, cool - not my failure. thanks for noting me this out. |
| 15:17.32 | abrotman | aswin: Please don't remove that source line |
| 15:17.47 | abrotman | aswin: unborn has misled you, that line is important |
| 15:17.48 | aswin | I was just testing it |
| 15:17.59 | abrotman | aswin: Is it trying to connect via IPv6? |
| 15:17.59 | unborn | amdp, well I am running few of my websites from one old laptop here in my home.. |
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| 15:18.16 | amdp | unborn: you have been misleading me as well |
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| 15:18.26 | aswin | abrotman: I cant understand what happen with that |
| 15:18.37 | unborn | amdp, sure - okay - have look somewhere else. Sorry. |
| 15:18.59 | abrotman | aswin: Does it show you an IPv6 address while trying to connect? |
| 15:19.15 | amdp | unborn: I thank you anyways but be sure of what you're talking about otherwise you could do worse *peace* |
| 15:19.15 | unborn | abrotman, he did not say.. so how could I answer this to you? he did not answer it to me at all.. |
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| 15:19.44 | abrotman | aswin: telnet security.debian.org 80 ; what address does it show you? |
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| 15:21.49 | amdp | abrotman: how is it possible that if I have mail.pears.com it loads apples.com ? mod_rewrite? apache.conf? sites-available? the debug level on error.log does not show anything.. |
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| 15:22.50 | abrotman | amdp: do you have a wildcard name-based virtual host? |
| 15:23.13 | abrotman | grrr ... |
| 15:23.46 | amdp | abrotman: hmmm you mean an asterisk in the virtual host line in sites-available conf's? |
| 15:24.24 | encfs | How do I add a file to the initrd file |
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| 15:24.52 | encfs | I have an encrypted root and a separate encrypted boot partition... I am dual-booting with arch and I have this set up working with arch, I have debian installed and this is the last part.. How do I add my root's keyfile to the initrd.img file? |
| 15:24.55 | abrotman | dpkg: tell encfs about initramfs |
| 15:25.03 | abrotman | amdp: sites-enabled, but yes |
| 15:25.21 | amdp | abrotman: I'll check that |
| 15:27.33 | amdp | abrotman: every site has <VirtualHost *:80> |
| 15:27.44 | abrotman | that's interesting .. |
| 15:28.01 | abrotman | amdp: Do you want different content for foo.site1.com from site1.com ? |
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| 15:28.35 | NoirLess | guys. Its partially offtop, but Im need your opinion cuz uses debian stable |
| 15:28.43 | amdp | abrotman: that I know how to do, but now foo.site1.com loads site2.com |
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| 15:29.09 | abrotman | amdp: have you created a specific site file for foo.site1.com and pointed at the content you want? |
| 15:29.35 | amdp | abrotman: even mail.site1.com loads site2.com :-\ |
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| 15:30.11 | NoirLess | some pages with https, after minimise browser window and then fullsized again, tells "cant verify sertificate". Browser's bug or dns hijacking? |
| 15:30.44 | amdp | abrotman: I discovered it installing mailman, and having lists.site1.com to point to /var/www/lists |
| 15:30.47 | NoirLess | ikr its wrong channel to ask about it, but debian-offtop is almost dead |
| 15:31.01 | abrotman | you didn't ask #debian-offtopic > |
| 15:31.03 | abrotman | ?> |
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| 15:31.34 | abrotman | amdp: create a configuration file/stanza for the site you want, point it at the content you want |
| 15:31.38 | amdp | abrotman: but when I do http://lists.site1.com or http://mail.site1.com it loads every time http://site2.com |
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| 15:32.22 | NoirLess | abrotman, isnt it dead? |
| 15:32.53 | amdp | abrotman: I have lists.site1.com pointing to /var/www/lists and mail.site1.com pointing to @ on the DNS and lists.site1.com to @ on the DNS |
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| 15:33.23 | abrotman | DNS doesn't really matter here |
| 15:33.38 | amdp | abrotman: I have in sites-available and sites-enabled lists.site1.com.conf pointing to /var/www/lists |
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| 15:33.56 | encfs | abrotman: That doesn't help me with adding a file to the initrd.img file... I konw I run update-initramfs after |
| 15:34.10 | abrotman | encfs: does it not point you at how to configure whihc modules? |
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| 15:34.52 | abrotman | amdp: I'd potentially say that instead of *:80, you should strictly name the sites you want |
| 15:35.03 | abrotman | amdp: though, I suspect this is all in production, so be careful |
| 15:35.05 | troyz0ne | hello anybody using enlightenment e20 on jessie |
| 15:35.21 | amdp | abrotman: what do you mean in production? |
| 15:35.32 | abrotman | amdp: people in the outside world are using this site |
| 15:36.18 | troyz0ne | having issues getting network-manager network-manager-applet to work with it |
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| 15:36.28 | troyz0ne | any hacks? |
| 15:36.43 | abrotman | amdp: brb |
| 15:37.26 | amdp | abrotman: ok |
| 15:38.39 | encfs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:44.05 | dasaphro | ayy lmao |
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| 15:44.58 | dasaphro | can anyone help with enabling i915 |
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| 15:45.19 | PadawanLearner_ | i'm debating myself with an i945 issu too |
| 15:45.30 | dasaphro | orly |
| 15:45.34 | PadawanLearner_ | what's your problem? |
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| 15:46.03 | dasaphro | i did something wrong |
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| 15:47.28 | dasaphro | and so now when i boot i go straight to console, and if i call xinit it says `failed to open module i915 (module does not exist)' |
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| 15:47.49 | dasaphro | also /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf is not there |
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| 15:52.07 | Lionyx | Hello guys! Does anybody knows how to set pmount to automatically mount WR mode? (Debian Jessie) |
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| 15:54.02 | PadawanLearner_ | just crashed |
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| 15:59.02 | abrotman | amdp: Do you want to PM me the sites in question? I realized that if you're testing content wiht a browser, caching could be an issue |
| 15:59.09 | abrotman | encfs: a file or a module? |
| 15:59.52 | encfs | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.09 | troyz0ne | hello any ideas about this errors message ERR<4275>:eet lib/eet/eet_lib.c:1273 eet_internal_close() Bad file descriptor '0xf2dea0' |
| 16:00.26 | encfs | abrotman: a file, a key file for an encrypted drive |
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| 16:01.08 | abrotman | encfs: like this? http://www.matthew.ath.cx/articles/cryptkey |
| 16:01.40 | abrotman | encfs: or this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/164403/unlock-luks-encrypted-debian-root-with-key-file-on-boot-partition ? |
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| 16:08.00 | amdp | abrotman: I did it // is there a way to make apache tell you any rewrite or redirect it does? |
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| 16:08.51 | abrotman | amdp: this seems more like a DNS or config issue, not something with rewrites |
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| 16:10.20 | amdp | abrotman: I'm quite lost :-) |
| 16:10.27 | troyz0ne | hello any ideas about this errors message ERR<4275>:eet lib/eet/eet_lib.c:1273 eet_internal_close() Bad file descriptor '0xf2dea0' |
| 16:10.30 | abrotman | amdp: you're probably going to have to pastebin your entire config |
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| 16:11.59 | RB2 | somiaj, FYI Wheezy detected the disks with no issue. |
| 16:12.07 | amdp | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/343548/ |
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| 16:13.08 | abrotman | amdp: I meant with the files in sites-enabled/ |
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| 16:14.20 | amdp | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/343549/ |
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| 16:14.49 | amdp | abrotman: there is just a default-ssl more |
| 16:14.52 | somiaj | RB2: well sounds like you just need to dist-upgrade then, read the release notes. Though if you upgrade a minimial system it should go smoothly |
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| 16:16.18 | abrotman | amdp: Right, you don't have a lists.site2.com configured, so it's going to match to * and go to the first one |
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| 16:17.33 | Tarminquay | Hi guys. |
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| 16:18.25 | PadawanLearner_ | teste |
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| 16:20.20 | johnfg | On the desktop, the Blank DVD-RW Disc I inserted shows up. But how can I tell what /dev it is? Properties doesn't say. |
| 16:20.21 | amdp | abrotman: I don't get why even mail.site1.com goes to site2 |
| 16:20.37 | abrotman | wild card configuration. It just picks the first one |
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| 16:21.05 | abrotman | amdp: the same would happen if you went to http://95.110.227.x/ |
| 16:21.32 | amdp | abrotman: with this for mailman.conf it happens the same |
| 16:21.34 | amdp | http://paste.debian.net/343550/ |
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| 16:21.54 | amdp | abrotman: meanwhile, thanks |
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| 16:22.24 | amdp | abrotman: so apparently everything is fine I just have to tweak the mailman configuration? |
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| 16:26.03 | abrotman | amdp: I don't think I'd say that .. |
| 16:26.22 | johnfg | On the desktop, the Blank DVD-RW Disc I inserted shows up. But how can I tell what /dev it is? Properties doesn't say. |
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| 16:26.28 | amdp | abrotman: I should avoid the wildcards? |
| 16:26.35 | abrotman | amdp: also, you can do *.site1.com |
| 16:27.13 | SPF | if I run sudo fdisk I get fdisk: command not found, while it is installed in sbin |
| 16:27.20 | fennesz | Hello everyone ! Currently I have disabled the spindown on a hard disk on my system using the disks utility-> APM -> 255 . This works correct however after the computer goes to sleep , the disk behaves like this setting is lost, so I have to disable apm and re-enable it . Can I somehow automatically have apm=255 after sleep? |
| 16:27.42 | abrotman | SPF: use the full path |
| 16:28.13 | SPF | abrotman: that's a solution but is this how it should be? |
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| 16:29.20 | amdp | abrotman: like <VirtualHost *.site.com:80> ? |
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| 16:31.16 | salviaD | I wanna know when Debian potateface comes out |
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| 16:32.06 | abrotman | amdp: google "name based virtual hosts", the apache docs explain how to do this |
| 16:32.16 | abrotman | salviaD: no such release |
| 16:32.41 | salviaD | No PotatoFace ? |
| 16:32.56 | abrotman | salviaD: ask google |
| 16:34.22 | salviaD | oh Debian PotatoFace was release in year 2000 already |
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| 16:36.47 | markybob | salviaD, it was never potatoface. i don't know where you got that from. just potato |
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| 16:38.02 | salviaD | Potato, in honor to Mr Potato Face |
| 16:38.34 | salviaD | I was never Debian Potato, as in french fries potato |
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| 16:40.52 | xargs | I remember running woody |
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| 16:41.32 | mnrmnaugh | who is wheezy? in the movies i mean |
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| 16:42.28 | abrotman | mnrmnaugh: the rubber penguin toy |
| 16:42.45 | abrotman | mnrmnaugh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toy_Story_characters#Wheezy |
| 16:43.45 | mnrmnaugh | huh. i dont remember him :p thanks! |
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| 16:58.52 | amdp | abrotman: do you know if when I install mailman it automatically installs into apache2? |
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| 17:00.25 | G66k | whats best format for usb to use debian ? |
| 17:00.34 | G66k | ntfs / fat ! |
| 17:00.46 | abrotman | amdp: I thought it created a file for you to include, but haven't used it in awhile |
| 17:00.54 | abrotman | not NTFS |
| 17:01.03 | abrotman | G66k: only Debian? or other OSes also? |
| 17:01.19 | G66k | abrotman, only debian for the moment |
| 17:01.24 | abrotman | ... |
| 17:01.57 | amdp | abrotman: I don't understand, online references sometime say to 'cp /etc/mailman/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/mailman.conf' ; other say 'cp /etc/mailman/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf-available/mailman.conf' other ''cp /etc/mailman/apache.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/mailman.conf' |
| 17:02.00 | G66k | im trying to use live usb for debian wondering which format should my usb used |
| 17:02.07 | abrotman | amdp: look at the package |
| 17:02.19 | amdp | on deb jessie? |
| 17:02.31 | abrotman | yes |
| 17:02.42 | mtn | G66k, you are going to make a live usb? |
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| 17:02.51 | G66k | mtn yes |
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| 17:03.09 | mtn | G66k, the format does not matter,when you burn the iso to the stick it will get wiped out |
| 17:03.17 | abrotman | amdp: typically, /usr/share/doc/mailman/ will be of some help |
| 17:03.33 | G66k | mtn ok thanks :) |
| 17:04.00 | amdp | abrotman: nice! |
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| 17:12.39 | erAbuelo | hi |
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| 17:13.52 | teraflops | erAbuelo: buenas tardes ;) |
| 17:14.27 | erAbuelo | hi teraflops ;) |
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| 17:17.20 | erAbuelo | when i try compile package calibre from sources, in my debian testing, get the following error: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/5/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5PlatformSupport.a(qeventdispatcher_glib.o): unrecognized relocation (0x2a) in section `.text |
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| 17:19.39 | erAbuelo | ideas? |
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| 17:22.31 | duser7 | question about shred: I am used to do "shred -n1 -uv file.jpg" to securly erase a file from my harddisk. does this make sense (and work?) on an ssd harddisk?? |
| 17:22.56 | teraflops | erAbuelo: is that hw arm? |
| 17:23.17 | erAbuelo | mo, amd64 |
| 17:24.03 | teraflops | erAbuelo: no crosscompiling? |
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| 17:24.07 | erAbuelo | no |
| 17:24.10 | teraflops | ok |
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| 17:24.45 | erAbuelo | and with qtbase5-private-dev version dfsg-6 compile without problem |
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| 17:26.18 | amdp | abrotman: there is nothing like that in the docs :-( |
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| 17:27.28 | teraflops | ,v qtbase5-private-dev |
| 17:27.29 | judd | Package: qtbase5-private-dev on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1; sid: 5.5.1+dfsg-8; stretch: 5.5.1+dfsg-8 |
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| 17:30.02 | xargs | ,v sbcl |
| 17:30.03 | judd | Package: sbcl on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.0.40.0-3; wheezy: 2:1.0.57.0-2; jessie: 2:1.2.4-2; sid: 2:1.3.0-1; stretch: 2:1.3.0-1 |
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| 17:31.38 | teraflops | erAbuelo: that's why is called testing but I cannot see from where it comes that dfsg-6, is backported? I just rely in stable |
| 17:31.56 | erAbuelo | xD |
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| 17:34.52 | teraflops | erAbuelo: no Im curious I cannot find 5.3.2+dfsg-6 |
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| 17:35.25 | teraflops | any * matching qtbase5-private-dev + dfsg-6 |
| 17:35.39 | erAbuelo | but no sense, i try compile de sources of calibre packages present in testing repository |
| 17:35.53 | erAbuelo | this is a previous version |
| 17:36.16 | teraflops | oh cache rulez? |
| 17:36.33 | erAbuelo | no, snpashot rulez more xD |
| 17:36.37 | teraflops | heh |
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| 17:37.10 | teraflops | erAbuelo: well, youre lucky ... it's testing afterall |
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| 17:40.04 | erAbuelo | yes, but no find nothing about this problem, and happens to me for more than week ago |
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| 17:48.08 | Lionyx | sorry |
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| 17:54.02 | sillysausage | https://www.lelo.com/inez |
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| 17:58.41 | wsky | i can connect to my linux samba server with no issues but linux gets rejected, what ould be the reason? |
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| 17:58.56 | wsky | i mean i can connect with windows with no issues |
| 17:59.06 | nkuttler | wsky: check your logs |
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| 17:59.20 | wsky | which one to be precise? |
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| 18:00.22 | nkuttler | wsky: i think auth.log, but not 100% sure |
| 18:00.36 | nkuttler | could be the samba logs or maybe even syslog i guess |
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| 18:02.07 | PadawanLearner_ | wsky: domain or workgroup? |
| 18:02.24 | wsky | ok so i can mount it with mount.cifs but not with smb browsers like thunar |
| 18:02.30 | wsky | PadawanLearner_: workgroup |
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| 18:03.15 | wsky | the server is visible for thunar but when i try to access it i get "the server rejected the connection" error |
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| 18:04.21 | PadawanLearner_ | not a thunar user... how are you specifying the auth? |
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| 18:04.36 | wsky | PadawanLearner_: what do you mean by that? |
| 18:04.54 | wsky | normally a dialogue window should pop up where i enter the usernam and the passwords |
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| 18:05.44 | PadawanLearner_ | wsky: i really do not know if it's supported, but you could try to force it at the address bar |
| 18:06.04 | PadawanLearner_ | smb://user:pass@hostname/share |
| 18:06.27 | wsky | caja (the mate file manager) and smbc behave in the same way |
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| 18:06.49 | PadawanLearner_ | it *could* be that it is using the guest account for that connection... |
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| 18:22.47 | amdp | abrotman: I finally fixed it, thanks |
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| 18:32.51 | Guest14711 | hi, I'm having the following messageon boot: [ 25.148138] radeon 0000:01:00.0: No VRAM object for PCIE GART. [ 25.148178] [drm:evergreen_resume] *ERROR* evergreen startup failed on resume |
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| 18:33.39 | Guest14711 | Some people say that this locksmy radeon card. After suspendmy my laptop is indeed hotter. |
| 18:33.41 | Guest14711 | Thanks |
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| 18:44.38 | msg | hey all |
| 18:44.55 | msg | I have a .jar i am trying to run, but it requires "java 6" |
| 18:45.06 | msg | (i am not a java programmer, so i dont understand all this stuff) |
| 18:45.16 | msg | On Jessie, the default java is java 7 - how do i get 6? |
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| 18:48.39 | nkuttler | !install java |
| 18:48.39 | dpkg | For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea-plugin package. For other Java programs, install the default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6> packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>. |
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| 18:49.34 | msg | ok i tried openjdk-6-jre, and I gt "package 'openjdk-6-jre' has no installation candidate |
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| 18:49.43 | msg | but its reffered to by another package |
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| 18:50.24 | msg | Oracle forbids Debian providing security updates!? |
| 18:50.37 | msg | Gosh the more I hear about Oracle the less I like... |
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| 18:54.27 | Guest5407 | Hello there, what is the package's name of the qpsl driver for qtcreator ? I don't get to find it in repositories and other doc show how to build it... |
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| 18:57.09 | msg | Ah, figured it out - my /etc/apt/sources.list pointed to a german ftp which was obviously not pulling its weight |
| 18:57.27 | msg | i removed the .de from the hostname and now it works |
| 18:57.46 | msg | Well... aleast apt-get clean && apt-get update is taking longer |
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| 18:58.07 | somiaj | !httpredir.debian.org |
| 18:58.07 | dpkg | To have <APT> automatically select a mirror close to you, use the Geo-IP redirector in your sources.list "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main". See http://httpredir.debian.org/ for more information. The redirector uses HTTP 302 redirects not DNS to serve content so is safe to use with Google DNS. See also <which httpredir.debian.org>. This service is identical to http.debian.net. |
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| 19:13.09 | awal1 | "radio ---» open /dev/radio0: No such file or directory" Tried with 'radio -v /dev/radio0, 1, 2, 3, 4...." but it won't work. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=296858 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xawtv/+bug/398120 Looked at /dev/ dir but no 'radio'. Any clue? |
| 19:13.10 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/296858 in radio (closed): «radio fails to find radio device»; severity: normal; opened: 2005-02-25; last modified: 2005-02-28. |
| 19:13.16 | msg | wait - nope, didnt fix anyting |
| 19:13.20 | msg | still no java 6 :P |
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| 19:13.31 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 19:13.42 | msg | But now it says "Packages that replace it: apt" |
| 19:13.43 | msg | lol |
| 19:13.55 | msg | code in apt. |
| 19:13.59 | johnfg | do I need any of the files in /var/backups or can they be removed? Or is there a script to remove them? |
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| 19:15.46 | awal1 | "mplayer 'onlineradioip'" works just fine, vlc too. what happens here exactly? |
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| 19:16.06 | awal1 | What happens with radio pack , I mean :) |
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| 19:23.04 | awal1 | This is what I get when running 'mplayer' http://paste.debian.net/343576 It may give a piste (?) |
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| 19:31.10 | ungali | awal1, have you tried it with mpv? |
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| 19:32.02 | ungali | wait, nevermind |
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| 19:33.50 | awal1 | ungali: 'radio' software with mpv, you mean? |
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| 19:34.11 | awal1 | I dont think it's a media plaier pack related :P |
| 19:34.15 | ungali | I misread the question, honestly |
| 19:34.24 | awal1 | no worries :P |
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| 19:37.34 | marcel__ | Found it ! |
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| 20:12.08 | awal1 | Planing to buy a customized Thinkpad or Dell laptop for run debian on it (a laptop that will work only with free drivers/firmwares, almost for wifi, ethernet, graphic&sound cards). Any suggestions about which kind/model of wifi, ethernet, graphic & sound cards I may ask for? Suggestions about good hardware that will work fine with free drivers/firmwares, I mean. |
| 20:12.32 | swift110 | hey all |
| 20:12.39 | swift110 | awal1, x201 |
| 20:12.47 | swift110 | what size screen you want awal1 |
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| 20:13.25 | awal1 | swift110: 13/15 |
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| 20:15.33 | swift110 | awal1, ok a t series thinkpad would be good for you then |
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| 20:15.54 | swift110 | whats your price range awal1 |
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| 20:18.06 | awal1 | swift110: thinkpad t series doesn't need non-free stuffs? Company where I work will pay for that CAD $ 1000 max, they said :P |
| 20:20.59 | grimsley | thinkpad tend to be a safe bet |
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| 20:21.51 | swift110 | thats great awal1 |
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| 20:23.05 | swift110 | yes grimsley |
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| 20:43.36 | swift110 | a lot of people here |
| 20:43.49 | swift110 | why is no one talking then |
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| 20:45.37 | nkuttler | swift110: this isn't a social channel, it's for help with technical problems |
| 20:45.49 | swift110 | oh I see |
| 20:45.53 | swift110 | that makes sense then |
| 20:45.56 | swift110 | thanks nkuttler |
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| 21:00.18 | amaile0 | I need a little help. I'd like to run "/etc/init.d/ams" 60 seconds after the system has booted up automatically. Can someone point me how to do that? |
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| 21:05.43 | amin | There's this tracker-extract process running all the time eating 100% of one of my cpu cores, I have set up a cron job to "killall -9" it every minute! What is an appropriate solution to this? |
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| 21:07.33 | rabbitear | amin: sounds like you solved it, but I don't know what 'tracker-extract' is, may be useful to know more about what that does.. |
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| 21:08.38 | amin | rabbitear, this seems to be a process that runs through all the filesystem to index files for them to be searched quickly later. |
| 21:10.08 | rabbitear | amin: a> do you need it? b> maybe its misconfigured in some way *shrugs* |
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| 21:11.59 | Dr_Coke | Hi people |
| 21:12.29 | Dr_Coke | I was wondering how I could change cinnamon on debian to look like fedora 23 cinnamon |
| 21:13.52 | Dr_Coke | you know the borders |
| 21:13.56 | Dr_Coke | around the windows |
| 21:14.07 | Dr_Coke | and the 3 buttons to max min and close |
| 21:14.17 | Dr_Coke | and everything really |
| 21:14.28 | somiaj | Dr_Coke: if it is just a configuration (and not a version thing) you can see about getting the config and putting it in $HOME |
| 21:14.38 | somiaj | Dr_Coke: for this a cinnimon specific channel may be more help |
| 21:14.51 | Dr_Coke | oh thanks somiaj |
| 21:15.01 | Dr_Coke | do you know the cinnamon specific channel |
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| 21:16.00 | somiaj | !cinnimon |
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| 21:16.10 | somiaj | hmm, nope I do not |
| 21:16.20 | Dr_Coke | !cinnamon |
| 21:16.20 | dpkg | Cinnamon is a fork of <GNOME Shell> initially developed by the Linux Mint distribution. Packaged since Debian 8 "Jessie", ask me about <install cinnamon>. http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ |
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| 21:23.10 | tytan | I tried to edit /etc/fstab. Now my server isn't reacheable on the network after a reboot. I think I did something wrong. How can I get it to boot again? =/ |
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| 21:23.40 | spacebug- | can't seem to get my Hp LasetJet p1102w to work under Debian. I got it to work under Ubuntu though. |
| 21:23.45 | teraflops | tytan: how far is the server from you? |
| 21:24.01 | tytan | Only a few kilometers |
| 21:24.13 | tytan | I could drive there if necessary |
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| 21:25.32 | teraflops | well, take your car and an a cd/usb bootable |
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| 21:27.05 | tytan | So you're telling me I need to comment that line out? |
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| 21:32.36 | kevlarman | which of the open source drivers supports nvidia 9xx cards? |
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| 21:40.49 | johnfg | do I need any of the files in /var/backups or can they be removed? Or is there a script to remove them? |
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| 21:42.25 | jhutchins | tytan: If all you did was add a line then yes. |
| 21:42.26 | teraflops | tytan: i telling you that system wont boot to the os until you fix the fstab |
| 21:42.36 | teraflops | im* |
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| 22:25.04 | awal1 | I have several stuffs connected to my laptop via usb ports (camera, mouse, headphone, keyboard...). Where I must look exactly for chek how many cpu/ram those stuffs are using? Looked at 'top' and 'htop' but I'm a bit lost :) |
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| 22:25.55 | swift110 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.00 | swift110 | press /info |
| 22:26.05 | swift110 | i mean /sysinfo |
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| 22:29.19 | awal1 | Kworker? |
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| 22:35.13 | uxfi | hey debian freinds |
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| 22:46.22 | fl4sh | hi, what is simple way to syc time? |
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| 22:48.44 | tytan | ntp I guess |
| 22:49.10 | bernat | Hi. I'm trying to browse photos from the gnome desktop and eog crashes. I've pasted the error shown when run in the command line: http://paste.debian.net/343634/ |
| 22:49.16 | bernat | it's Debian Jessie |
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| 22:56.45 | nullx002 | hi |
| 22:57.15 | nullx002 | is it possible to add kali repos to debian 8.2? |
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| 22:59.04 | xargs | No |
| 22:59.20 | xargs | Never mix repos like that :/ |
| 22:59.21 | Ringi | Hi there ya'll |
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| 23:00.05 | Ringi | i'm havin some issues getting samba directory listing in da new 8.2 |
| 23:00.33 | Ringi | is this a known issue is it just me havin it? |
| 23:00.49 | xargs | da? |
| 23:01.02 | Ringi | ugh the sorry |
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| 23:01.10 | Graf_Z4hl | Hello. |
| 23:01.15 | xargs | Check the bug tracker, see if someone has filed a bug. |
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| 23:01.34 | okee | Is there a way to put your signature into the cell of a spread sheet? |
| 23:01.52 | xargs | Print it out and sign it? :P |
| 23:01.56 | Graf_Z4hl | I'm a little bit testing to improve my knowledge in Debian. |
| 23:02.18 | okee | I would like to do it without printing it out. This would be easy if it was a PDF, because I can use Xournal for PDF, and it works great. |
| 23:02.25 | Graf_Z4hl | If I want a external firewall based on Debian, do I need a routing configuration? |
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| 23:02.54 | Ringi | xargs: not findin it |
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| 23:03.56 | xargs | What is your issue, perhaps #samba may be a better avenue for help troubleshooting your issue. |
| 23:04.02 | Ringi | i'm guessin its probably me |
| 23:04.17 | xargs | ,v samba |
| 23:04.18 | judd | Package: samba on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5; wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2; stretch: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-4; sid: 2:4.1.21+dfsg-2+b2; experimental: |
| 23:04.19 | judd | 2:4.3.1+dfsg-1 |
| 23:04.40 | Ringi | well worked fin in deb 8.0 |
| 23:05.02 | xargs | apt-get changelog samba |
| 23:05.30 | xargs | What changed? |
| 23:07.00 | Ringi | a bunch o things i dont quite get lol |
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| 23:10.40 | xargs | Ok... |
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| 23:11.25 | okee | Just discovered that there is a built in hand writing tool in Calligra Sheets, so I don't have to worry about inserting my signature. |
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| 23:24.09 | Ringi | xargs: want me to paste it? |
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| 23:29.28 | johnfg | do I need any of the files in /var/backups or can they be removed? Or is there a script to remove them? |
| 23:30.07 | themill | well, the question is "do I need backups" |
| 23:30.47 | cra1g321 | if it is data you will need in the future, then back it up |
| 23:31.12 | bernat | !backups |
| 23:31.13 | dpkg | I don't need no steenkin backups. However, I'm sure at least two other mes in parallel dimensions do, so I'm probably good to go. Hopefully the other mes in the other dimensions aren't counting on me to keep backups. Those idiots. <SlayerXP> there are two types of people in this world, those who take my advice regarding RAID and backups, and those who cry when they lose their data. See <things to backup>, <qotd126>, <flw40>. |
| 23:31.22 | bernat | :D |
| 23:33.21 | Graf_Z4hl | If I want a external firewall based on Debian, do I need a routing configuration? |
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| 23:35.41 | jhutchins | Graf_Z4hl: Generally the firewall would be your default gateway. |
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| 23:37.02 | johnfg | bernat: I'm assuming the files in /var/backups were put there by default by some programs. That's certainly not where I do my backups :-) |
| 23:37.29 | xargs | Graf_Z4hl: I recommend pfsense; but its based on *BSD |
| 23:37.43 | xargs | #pfsense |
| 23:38.17 | jhutchins | okee: I have an image of my signature that I can insert in a document accepts images. |
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| 23:39.23 | jhutchins | Graf_Z4hl: Are you building a box to be the firewall or using an appliance? |
| 23:39.26 | okee | jhutchins> Are you inserting into a spread sheet? I commonly insert images with LibreOffice, or MS Word, but not sure how this can be done with a spreadsheet. I was able to find a built in writing tool, so the issue isn't as urgent. However, I am interested in how you are doing it. |
| 23:40.14 | jhutchins | okee: I don't recall that I've used it in a spreadsheet. I know that SOME spreadsheets accept pretty much any data. Some probably don't. |
| 23:40.28 | Graf_Z4hl | jhutchins: building a box |
| 23:40.46 | cra1g321 | there is also ipfire its debian based too, never used it though |
| 23:40.47 | jhutchins | okee: But if you're generating handwriting in one, it must be as an image, so it probably accepts them. |
| 23:41.20 | okee | jhutchins> You would think so. |
| 23:42.58 | jhutchins | Graf_Z4hl: Here's a basic recipie: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
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| 23:43.22 | jhutchins | Graf_Z4hl: Deeper project: http://www.trinityos.com/LINUX/index-linux.html |
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| 23:43.55 | jhutchins | Graf_Z4hl: I used to use those to build SOHO routers, but you can get a router-in-a-box cheaper these days. |
| 23:44.06 | jhutchins | s/router/firewall/ |
| 23:44.34 | Graf_Z4hl | Thank you. |
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| 23:46.40 | johnfg | pretty vague information on /var/backups from the web, debian admin info. how would I go about purging them? |
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| 23:47.21 | bernat | johnfg, that's the location where the Debian system backups important files. Don't touch any system files unless you know exactly what you're doing or you can severely damage your system. |
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| 23:54.05 | ironpillow | hi all, I installed debian on 32GB flash drive and it's not booting. I checked using "file -s /dev/sdb" and it shows: x86 boot sector |
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