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| 00:19.13 | bumbar | i need to examine a shitton of text, and if a certain substring occurs on a line, i want to hide it and then next 3 lines. how can i do that? |
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| 00:20.02 | abrotman | bumbar: can you use grep -v -A4 <text> <file> ? |
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| 00:20.13 | abrotman | -A3, sorr |
| 00:20.14 | abrotman | y |
| 00:20.22 | abrotman | Apparently I cannot type |
| 00:20.31 | bumbar | i can pipe that to less after, right? |
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| 00:22.40 | bumbar | abrotman, how can i view that with less? piping doesn't seem to work |
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| 00:23.20 | abrotman | what are you typing .. show us the command |
| 00:23.57 | bumbar | grep -v -A4 "method" stdout_2015-12-16_00-41-11.txt | less |
| 00:24.10 | abrotman | and that doesn't work ? |
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| 00:24.26 | bumbar | no, i can still see the line (and next 3) containng "method" |
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| 00:26.36 | abrotman | sounds like I didn't use grep correctly .. #bash might have a better hint for you |
| 00:27.48 | bumbar | thanks, i'll try there |
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| 01:03.11 | hemebond | Can someone please explain to me how the "dists" sub-directory works on an Apt server? |
| 01:03.41 | hemebond | Is there some magic that makes Apt look in there? |
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| 01:08.26 | dvs | hemebond: Yes, it's the keyword after the url in a "deb" line in sources.list |
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| 01:08.56 | hemebond | dvs: Thanks but I'm referring to the actual directory called "dists". |
| 01:09.09 | hemebond | e.g., http://servername/debian/dists/jessie/ |
| 01:09.42 | dvs | hemebond: What do you mean "how it works"? What's the format of that subtree? |
| 01:09.51 | hemebond | That "dists" directory is not in the deb line (sources.list) so what triggers Apt to go into it? |
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| 01:10.12 | hemebond | There are other examples for an Apt repo that say you don't have to have it at all, so I'm a little confused. |
| 01:10.17 | dvs | hemebond: Like I said, it's the word after the url in a sources.list |
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| 01:11.07 | hemebond | dvs: I'm not talking about "jessie", I understand that keyword is in the deb line. I'm talking about the "dists" directory. |
| 01:11.19 | dvs | shrugs |
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| 01:11.59 | hemebond | At this stage I'm guessing it's just magic. |
| 01:12.18 | dvs | it's assumed to be there |
| 01:12.42 | hemebond | Hmm, but the "trivial repo" examples show no structure. |
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| 01:13.41 | hemebond | I thought it might be the Packages.gz file but that seems to go into the subdirectories. |
| 01:14.39 | brezza-phone | Hello, I just updated my debian wheezy install to Jessie, now i dont get a desktop. I get the login screen, if i type in my password it accepts it and then goes no further. Any ideas? I created a new account to see if it is something odd in my account, no luck |
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| 01:30.40 | xVim | Hi. How come that on a fresh Debian Jessie or Stretch install with an entered root password no sudo is available? From my limited experience and a post on SuperUser it seems that using "su" instead of the non-installed "sudo" is less secure. |
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| 01:31.21 | xVim | Wouldn't the saner default be to always include sudo and add an user to the sudoers group for all normal user installations? |
| 01:31.24 | dark-jedi | xVim, You can add your user to the sudoers file if you need sudo |
| 01:31.31 | abrotman | did yo configure sudo? |
| 01:31.47 | xVim | dark-jedi: I know that, but I wonder why it is not the preset. |
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| 01:32.45 | xVim | abrotman: I always install sudo and add the standard user to the sudoers file. I just wonder why I have to do it and this is not the default. |
| 01:33.48 | abrotman | not everyone wants/needs sudo |
| 01:35.22 | axc1298 | xVim: here's a tip. during the installation process, if you leave the root password empty when it asks for one, it will set up sudo for you by default so you don't have to do it manually |
| 01:36.43 | dark-jedi | <sarcasm> Because it's SO hard to set up sudo </sarcasm> |
| 01:37.33 | dark-jedi | Takes me like 15 seconds after a new Debian install to configure sudo. |
| 01:37.49 | xVim | axc1298: Good to know. If I enter no root passwort however, is my system still safe? I never tried it, but would think you could login as root without a password? |
| 01:37.59 | axc1298 | something being easy to set up isn't an argument by itself for not setting it up by default for the user |
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| 01:38.08 | axc1298 | there are other reasons like not everyone needing it, etc |
| 01:38.33 | abrotman | xVim: no, it does the sane thing |
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| 01:38.54 | xVim | abrotman: Ok, so no root account at all thne? |
| 01:38.58 | xVim | then? |
| 01:39.21 | abrotman | it creates it, but you cannot login directly |
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| 01:39.46 | abrotman | wonders how this works when you have a prompt that says "Enter root password for maintenance" |
| 01:40.17 | dark-jedi | abrotman, Maybe just press Enter? |
| 01:40.19 | axc1298 | xVim: you can still do sudo -i |
| 01:40.24 | cmhobbs | are there any debian mailing lists worth casual reading? i'd like to keep up to date with things |
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| 01:40.27 | axc1298 | to get root |
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| 01:40.45 | xVim | Last question: In what use case would it be good to not use sudo? I always thought this would be a good idea. Perhaps I can learn something here? |
| 01:40.57 | abrotman | dark-jedi: that would be inane |
| 01:41.18 | dark-jedi | abrotman, lol. Thus my sarcasm above. |
| 01:41.30 | abrotman | xVim: because it's easily worked around, and many people just 'sudo su -', and then run around and run commands anway |
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| 01:44.15 | xVim | So in general it is just a question of preference if I understood it right, as I can do the same with sudo and su. |
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| 02:06.06 | xVim | Thanks again for everyone's help and good night! |
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