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| 20:11.07 | Guest29975 | where i can change parametr b43.allhwsupport=1 ? |
| 20:11.10 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: tbh, if you use the nvidia driver instead of nouveau you might be able to adjust it with nvidia-[x]config |
| 20:11.41 | Shadow_7 | Guest29975: modprobe b43 allhwsupport=1 |
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| 20:11.59 | Shadow_7 | Guest29975: otherwise stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 20:14.31 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: well I tried to install the nvidia driver by following this https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 20:14.50 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but when I use nvidia-detect, it says: no nvidia gpu detected |
| 20:16.15 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: you often have to apt-get remove the nouveau stuff and modprobe -r nouveau plus modprobe nv or whatever nvidia uses. It's a mess IMO. Plus use an nvidia kernel |
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| 20:17.25 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga |
| 20:17.42 | folivora | Hi, I am running Debian Jessie. After I changed the MOBO gnome doesn't list any sound-devices. aplay -IL lists them, alsa alsamixer lists them...Any idea what I should do ? |
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| 20:19.07 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: http://pastebin.com/iDJUr90b |
| 20:19.29 | teraflops | Aaaaand-its-gone: if your system is nvidia optimus powered and you're using bumblebee you don't want nvidia xconfig nor a xorg.conf |
| 20:20.09 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I'm not using bumblebee and I don't if it's optimus powered |
| 20:20.21 | teraflops | Ah ok |
| 20:20.21 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: you probably shouldn't be using nouveau at all and should have /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/ |
| 20:20.59 | Aaaaand-its-gone | the directory /sys/class/backlight is empty |
| 20:21.40 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: apt-get install intel-gpu-tools |
| 20:22.31 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok I installed that |
| 20:22.44 | tortib | I left the battery out for 20 minutes and the BIOS password isn't cleared |
| 20:22.49 | tortib | what can I do to remove the bIOS password? |
| 20:23.03 | Aaaaand-its-gone | tortib: restore to factory settings? |
| 20:23.11 | tortib | isn't that what removing the battery does? |
| 20:23.31 | Shadow_7 | tortib: install a bios update should clear it to factory settings |
| 20:23.36 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I have an option in my bios to restore back to factory settings |
| 20:23.45 | tortib | i can't install a bios update since it has a password... |
| 20:23.57 | tortib | I can't access the BIOS because there is a password. |
| 20:24.03 | Shadow_7 | tortib: otherwise be sure to unplug it and keep the battery out for an hour and hope |
| 20:24.19 | tortib | i left it out for 20 minutes and it still didn't clear it |
| 20:24.25 | tortib | what is having it out for an hour going to do? |
| 20:24.35 | Shadow_7 | Is it still plugged into the wall? |
| 20:24.36 | tortib | it reset the bios settings but the password still exists |
| 20:24.41 | tortib | it is now |
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| 20:24.45 | well_laid_lawn | In my old pentium 2 desktop I had to move a jumper to clear the bios |
| 20:24.48 | tortib | but it wasn't when I removed the battery for 20min |
| 20:25.12 | Shadow_7 | tortib: consult the manual for your motherboard |
| 20:25.20 | tortib | there isn't any information in there that is helpful |
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| 20:25.50 | head8debian | Hello tortib. |
| 20:26.02 | head8debian | Interesting to see you here. :) |
| 20:26.21 | Shadow_7 | either way not a linux or debian issue |
| 20:26.23 | tortib | You're all smarter than me so I'm asking all of you how to resolve this |
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| 20:26.51 | calinokali | How do I power off my machine for like five minutes? |
| 20:27.13 | Shadow_7 | red button and hold for 5 seconds |
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| 20:27.15 | calinokali | Like, so it turns off and sits there for a bit and then turns on. |
| 20:27.24 | calinokali | there is no red button on my keyboard what do |
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| 20:27.32 | head8debian | tortib: Either unplug it and remove the mobo battery for a couple hours, or try to find the cmos jumper pins and jump them. |
| 20:27.47 | Shadow_7 | calinokali: shutdown -H -P +0 |
| 20:27.49 | tortib | head8debian when i removed the battery for about 20minutes the cmos was cleared, but the password is still there |
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| 20:28.25 | Shadow_7 | tortib: then there's probably a jumper for it. consult the manual for your motherboard |
| 20:28.41 | calinokali | That just halts it and shuts it down... |
| 20:28.53 | calinokali | I don't get it. |
| 20:29.08 | Shadow_7 | calinokali: -P should power it off |
| 20:29.21 | Shadow_7 | although x86-ism and such |
| 20:29.28 | calinokali | Yeah but I want it to turn on again after a while, like a delayed reboot. |
| 20:29.59 | Shadow_7 | then push the button... after a while... or wake on lan if your machine has it and send it a packet |
| 20:30.12 | calinokali | ... |
| 20:30.31 | calinokali | I'll try putting a fan next to it then. |
| 20:30.43 | Shadow_7 | is it overheating on you? |
| 20:30.47 | calinokali | It's a raspberry pi. |
| 20:31.01 | Shadow_7 | overclocked? |
| 20:31.09 | calinokali | No, but I'm ramping up the USB power. |
| 20:31.12 | calinokali | current* w/e |
| 20:31.21 | Shadow_7 | so the power supply isn't the right amps? |
| 20:31.36 | calinokali | I guess not, because doing lsblk twice crashes the tty terminal. |
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| 20:31.55 | Shadow_7 | you could use powered hubs for things that come off it's usb to share the burden |
| 20:32.05 | calinokali | Oh, those exist... |
| 20:32.36 | Shadow_7 | or get something closer to 3A for the pi 2 series |
| 20:34.14 | calinokali | So I put max_usb_current=1 in the text file. The disk starts spinning up and then dies with a beep. |
| 20:34.32 | calinokali | From the cylinder, like sudden stop. |
| 20:34.57 | Shadow_7 | beep normally means needs more power |
| 20:35.17 | plemaire_ | exit |
| 20:35.20 | calinokali | How much higher do I go? :0 |
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| 20:35.42 | Shadow_7 | if you get a usb3 hub it should have all the power it needs |
| 20:36.04 | Shadow_7 | a powered usb3 hub |
| 20:36.04 | calinokali | Can't do that yet, I'm doing this instead right now. http://www.htpcguides.com/power-2-5-hard-drive-with-raspberry-pi-b/ |
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| 20:36.30 | calinokali | I'll try setting it to 2. |
| 20:36.48 | Shadow_7 | otherwise don't use a gaming keyboard with 2 usb jacks that draws mega amps |
| 20:37.30 | calinokali | It's an external hard disk. |
| 20:37.53 | Shadow_7 | usb powered? or docking station? |
| 20:37.59 | calinokali | USB powered. |
| 20:38.22 | Shadow_7 | still wants more power than it has, hence the beep |
| 20:38.28 | calinokali | Right. |
| 20:38.46 | Shadow_7 | gotta solve the hardware issue first |
| 20:39.05 | calinokali | Surely there is a text file which allows passing more power to the USB. |
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| 20:40.10 | calinokali | I set it to 4. |
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| 20:40.40 | Shadow_7 | which doesn't matter if it's not getting it from the wall power |
| 20:41.17 | calinokali | I trust the enginners that made the breadboard. |
| 20:41.23 | calinokali | engineers* |
| 20:41.38 | Shadow_7 | but the drive marketing teams lies |
| 20:41.54 | Shadow_7 | they tend to draw more power than advertised |
| 20:42.40 | calinokali | sshiiiiiitttt |
| 20:42.42 | Shadow_7 | more so if the unit you get is not pristine |
| 20:42.43 | calinokali | I'm setting it to 8. |
| 20:43.11 | Shadow_7 | A powered usb hub solves most of those issues though |
| 20:43.23 | swift110 | hey all |
| 20:43.31 | calinokali | But the store is closed. |
| 20:44.04 | Shadow_7 | calinokali: you could also network attach it and power it by a different machine |
| 20:44.54 | calinokali | I set it to 16. |
| 20:45.00 | calinokali | Powered usb hub it is. |
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| 20:47.40 | calinokali | So it's like a box with USBs and... |
| 20:47.42 | calinokali | I don't get the concept. |
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| 20:47.56 | calinokali | Wait no, it's like a hub but with a power jack at the side? |
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| 20:48.19 | Shadow_7 | it's a hub.. it converts one usb to 4-ish.. And gives it more juice from a source other than the computer |
| 20:48.38 | calinokali | Yeah. |
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| 20:49.17 | calinokali | Well, since I have all night until the stores open... maybe I can make the raspberry draw more power from the wall and then give more to the USB? |
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| 20:49.28 | Shadow_7 | most usb devices draw more than the 500ma of the usb2 spec. and even there that's 500ma for both ports or 250ma each |
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| 20:49.48 | Shadow_7 | plus laptops and sbc's tend to be much lower on the power giving side to save battery life |
| 20:50.09 | calinokali | This is a raspberry what |
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| 20:50.40 | Shadow_7 | the plug to usb adapter is where you would need more amps from |
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| 20:50.47 | Shadow_7 | most are 1amp or less |
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| 20:51.20 | Shadow_7 | and the ones on surge strips are still 0.5a |
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| 20:51.46 | calinokali | Maybe I should just take apart my old desktop, hack out the shits and whatevz from the motherboard and so on... |
| 20:52.41 | calinokali | Is it okay to leave a motherboard out in the open without any cooling? |
| 20:52.43 | calinokali | hrm |
| 20:53.00 | Shadow_7 | not most x86 ones |
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| 20:53.14 | calinokali | It's "64 bit capable". |
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| 20:54.05 | aedinius | Yeah, you probably want to keep some cool air moving over it. |
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| 20:54.28 | calinokali | I could move it next to the window instead of the radiator for the winter. |
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| 21:10.28 | gnubio | can anyone recommend a centipede clon that i can install on jessie? deb package if possible |
| 21:10.38 | gnubio | can anyone recommend a centipede clone that i can install on jessie? deb package if possible |
| 21:11.15 | Brigo | gnubio, and what centipede is? |
| 21:11.56 | gnubio | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centipede_%28video_game%29 |
| 21:13.27 | gnubio | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Centipede_arcade.png |
| 21:14.13 | Brigo | gnubio, mame supports it |
| 21:15.14 | gnubio | but mame is non free. sorry, i should have said that i am after a free as in freedom centipede clone. |
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| 21:17.42 | Brigo | gnubio, mame is free, most roms not. I don't know any centipede version, but i don't know the game, you should ask someone who cares about it. |
| 21:19.20 | gnubio | Brigo, i do NOT contrib/non free in my sources.list. so mame is not an option because it depends on non free roms |
| 21:21.38 | zykotick9 | Brigo: mame has a no $ clause, and is thus considered non-free - but it is open source. |
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| 21:37.43 | Tideo | Hi I need help installing Debian Linux. I get through all the startup installations and then run into an issue when it's finally time to boot up. |
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| 21:38.51 | Guest4488 | tell friends where a picture changing boot grub menu ? |
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| 21:51.38 | unborn | Guest4488, google is full of it.. |
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| 21:54.03 | tortib | how can I reset a bios password? |
| 21:54.13 | tortib | I have a MSI Z77 motherboard |
| 21:54.46 | socomm | tortib: /j #hardware |
| 21:54.51 | unborn | tortib, usually you need to download the sw from them - or you just need to give them a call.. |
| 21:55.09 | tortib | unborn how would i use the software? I can't even get to the boot screen |
| 21:55.19 | tortib | it just asks for the bios password |
| 21:55.22 | socomm | Normally removing the motherboards battery for 30+ seconds will clear the bios password. |
| 21:55.23 | tortib | and I 'forgot' the password |
| 21:55.32 | tortib | i let it sit for a hour and it didn't remove the password |
| 21:55.34 | tortib | I don't know what to do :( |
| 21:55.49 | tortib | please help :( |
| 21:55.58 | socomm | tortib: Ask #hardware. |
| 21:56.03 | tortib | i'm banned from there |
| 21:56.20 | socomm | Are you a bad person? |
| 21:56.24 | socomm | I'll keep an eye out for you. |
| 21:56.32 | tortib | :( |
| 21:56.39 | tortib | I'm not a bad person |
| 21:57.27 | unborn | tortib, you can try to remove coms battery out |
| 21:57.29 | tortib | there has to be a way to remove the password |
| 21:57.35 | tortib | i did that, the battery was removed for a hour |
| 21:57.53 | tortib | it even has a button on the back to clear the cmos |
| 21:58.00 | Shadow_7 | tortib: others with that board seem to have that issue when hardware fails. Like power cables come loose or the RAM goes bad. |
| 21:58.01 | tortib | i tried that and it still wont get rid of the password |
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| 21:58.09 | calinokali | SERVER ON KALI?! YES OR NO |
| 21:58.10 | tortib | Shadow_7 that isn't happening |
| 21:58.18 | unborn | for about one minute.. (you must be unplugged from everything out.. then just insert the battery back - if that does not help - you will have to call manufacturer by phone |
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| 21:58.30 | unborn | and you are not the bad person tortib :) |
| 21:58.45 | bazhang | #kali-linux calinokali |
| 21:59.18 | calinokali | ITS URGENT |
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| 21:59.34 | bazhang | ask there calinokali |
| 21:59.35 | Guest4488 | calinokali, kali is ubuntu, ubuntu server is a bad idea |
| 21:59.48 | tortib | unborn MSI is closed |
| 21:59.55 | tortib | will they have a master password I can use? |
| 22:00.03 | calinokali | ahaha why |
| 22:00.19 | unborn | Guest4488, I think new kali is debian? just guessing.. but ubuntu server is rubbish.. go with debian :) |
| 22:00.23 | Shadow_7 | tortib: seems like this guy had a bad GPU. http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26518-computer-won-t-boot-into-the-bios/page2&s=52f29075f38ab516056a7be732c3a0aa |
| 22:00.29 | tortib | unborn thanks for thinking that, a lot of people say I'm a bad person |
| 22:00.45 | waterlubber | Has anyone had any luck with installing the prop AMD fglrx drivers on jessie? |
| 22:00.52 | waterlubber | I've tried and had no luck with anything |
| 22:00.53 | unborn | tortib, really? did they bankrupt or something? |
| 22:01.00 | tortib | no |
| 22:01.03 | Guest4488 | tortib, master password know the NSA and the FBI, you can call them and ask them |
| 22:01.07 | tortib | unborn they're closed on the weekends is what I meant |
| 22:01.34 | unborn | aha tortib so have a beer and chillax :) call them tomorrow and you will be sorted |
| 22:01.46 | tortib | tomorrow is sunday isn't it? |
| 22:02.16 | sheap | the .run files nvidia provides have worked pretty well fo rme |
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| 22:03.00 | unborn | tortib, in my country tomorrow is heh sunday meh okay due to this xmas things I missed a day.. sorry.. that means you should wait if coms battery does not help and contact them in monday |
| 22:03.04 | Shadow_7 | until the kernel updates and you have to redo them |
| 22:03.16 | tortib | unborn okay i'll do that i hope they have a master password |
| 22:03.24 | tortib | because if not I'm SOL |
| 22:03.55 | Guest4488 | What does the name of the channel archlinux-unregistered? I'm also a bad person in this channel? Now how do I rename this channel? |
| 22:04.07 | tortib | unborn if i find out what kind of bios it is i can maybe find out which one it is? |
| 22:04.53 | unborn | tortib, all you need is your mb number - the bios reset pw will be generated while you are on phone line with them. |
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| 22:05.22 | tortib | unborn where do I get the MB number? |
| 22:05.48 | unborn | tortib, in bios? or physically on your mb? :) |
| 22:05.51 | Shadow_7 | tortib: it's a printed number on the physical board |
| 22:05.57 | tortib | unborn will have to be physically on the MB |
| 22:06.25 | unborn | tortib, read me again ^^^ |
| 22:06.35 | tortib | i found some writing that says REV in it, is that it? |
| 22:06.42 | tortib | unborn i can't get to the BIOS so physically on the MB |
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| 22:07.30 | unborn | tortib, yeah - I said it :) |
| 22:07.58 | tortib | unborn i'm not really understanding you |
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| 22:09.49 | unborn | tortib, which part of our convo you did not understand? I will try to explain.. meh |
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| 22:14.08 | waterlubber | Jessie has grub2 right |
| 22:14.20 | Shadow_7 | and grub-legacy |
| 22:15.00 | waterlubber | Thank you :) |
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| 22:15.19 | waterlubber | Where is the configuration for booting another OS? I'm very unfamiliar with grub |
| 22:15.34 | Shadow_7 | running update-grub will generate it |
| 22:15.52 | Shadow_7 | otherwise /boot/grub/menu.lst for legacy and /boot/grub/grub.cfg for grub2 |
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| 22:16.46 | waterlubber | "Do not edit this file" Are you sure? |
| 22:17.44 | Shadow_7 | waterlubber: there's /etc/default/grub to do manual edits. or /etc/grub.d/40-custom for extra entries |
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| 22:18.07 | waterlubber | Is that where I'd add a second OS? |
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| 22:19.13 | Shadow_7 | waterlubber: if update-grub doesn't add it for you |
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| 22:36.39 | Miesco | Hi. How do I get files file{098..120}.mkv from an ftp server? |
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| 22:45.10 | Shadow_7 | Miesco: mget... or use a gui client and click then shift+click |
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| 22:45.28 | Miesco | perhaps rsync miesco@myserver:~/file{098..120}.mkv . |
| 22:45.46 | Miesco | Shadow_7: Incorrect. I do not use those mice things. |
| 22:46.20 | Miesco | Shadow_7: Can mget use brace expansion? |
| 22:46.25 | Shadow_7 | Miesco: then shift + down arrow |
| 22:46.50 | Miesco | Shadow_7: I don't use guis |
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| 22:48.33 | Shadow_7 | or create a list.txt and wget -c -i list.txt |
| 22:48.45 | Guest4488 | Miesco, is bad what gui? |
| 22:49.14 | xand | for i in $(seq -w 098 120); do wget ftp://blah/file$i.mkv; done |
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| 22:50.11 | Miesco | xand: Oh wait,t here is another problem. It is file{098..120}*.mkv |
| 22:50.29 | xand | * being what? |
| 22:50.49 | xand | if it's different each time then umm |
| 22:51.28 | Devastator | regex match? hehe |
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| 22:52.43 | Miesco | xand: It is different every time |
| 22:53.22 | Miesco | Shadow_7's solution might work though |
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| 22:59.35 | tortib | is there any way to clear this BIOS password on a MSI Z77 |
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| 23:00.19 | Devastator | clearing cmos? anyway, I think this question fits #hardware |
| 23:01.15 | Shadow_7 | Miesco: or wget -r the whole site and delete what you don't want |
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| 23:01.23 | tortib | i tried clearing the cmos |
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| 23:09.08 | Shadow_7 | Miesco: the wget -c -i list.txt way is a throwback to dialup hell. You'd just get a list of large downloads and then drive to a free wifi hotspot and wget -c -i list.txt the items until your laptops battery died. Then drive home and shorten your list. |
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| 23:12.54 | edoardo | Hello, i have an issue with debian Jessie on my server |
| 23:13.05 | aedinius | Please state the name of your emergency. |
| 23:13.17 | edoardo | /run/udev or .udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV invocation. |
| 23:13.27 | edoardo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 23:13.35 | aedinius | Err, nature. I'd be horrible as a 0118 999 881 99 9119 7253 operator. |
| 23:14.00 | aedinius | What were you doing when this occurred? |
| 23:14.17 | edoardo | this happens with any apt-get or dpkg command that touches packages |
| 23:15.18 | edoardo | and particularly this happens after "Creating fuse device..." |
| 23:15.40 | aedinius | What package is that for? |
| 23:15.47 | edoardo | fuse |
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| 23:17.05 | edoardo | hang on, how can i change the language of the command i run? |
| 23:17.30 | edoardo | i'm using debian in italian and i recall there was a way to have the output in english |
| 23:17.41 | aedinius | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ? |
| 23:17.44 | edoardo | yes |
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| 23:18.54 | edoardo | https://paste.debian.net/plain/356398 |
| 23:19.17 | edoardo | aedinius: ^^ full output |
| 23:19.52 | aedinius | Try update/dist-upgrade first |
| 23:20.10 | edoardo | nope, same exact output |
| 23:20.12 | edoardo | update works |
| 23:20.16 | edoardo | upgrade doesn't |
| 23:21.21 | aedinius | http://superuser.com/questions/790754/errors-were-encountered-while-processing-fuse |
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| 23:21.24 | aedinius | That seems related. |
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| 23:22.21 | waterlubber | I'm getting absolutely atrocious performance whenever I do something remotely gpu-intensive |
| 23:22.31 | waterlubber | Does anyone have any advice on a debugging process |
| 23:22.40 | aedinius | What gpu and what driver? |
| 23:23.03 | waterlubber | Previously, on Ubuntu, I could get 60fps with max shaders on Minecraft, now the game barely runs and I get less than a frame per second |
| 23:23.07 | waterlubber | Same for Kerbal Space Program |
| 23:23.17 | waterlubber | R9 270X |
| 23:23.34 | waterlubber | The catalyst drivers won't install, so I went back to radeon or whatever |
| 23:23.44 | aedinius | glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" |
| 23:24.06 | waterlubber | glxinfo not found |
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| 23:25.57 | waterlubber | Hello? |
| 23:26.08 | aedinius | hi. |
| 23:26.46 | Penix | waterlubber: like you said, you're not using a driver with proper (or any) 3D acceleration |
| 23:26.54 | waterlubber | That's what I'm thinking |
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| 23:28.05 | Penix | waterlubber: are you installing the fglrx packages? or manually using amd's installer or something? |
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| 23:28.07 | waterlubber | Hang on, i just found cata drivers for Jessie |
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| 23:28.25 | aedinius | jessie has a packaged fglrx that works pretty well. |
| 23:28.26 | waterlubber | I'm going to try the fglrx packages, but I'll need to modify them so Wine installs |
| 23:29.33 | edoardo_ | aedinius: the fix on superuser doesn't work |
| 23:29.43 | edoardo_ | i guess i'll have to reinstall |
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| 23:32.58 | waterlubber | I've made mistakes |
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| 23:33.14 | waterlubber | Broke xorg, how do I revert to non broken drivers |
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| 23:35.15 | waterlubber | And networking is broken |
| 23:35.28 | waterlubber | I'm on my phone |
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| 23:35.59 | tlund | I am trying to connect to a wifi that does not have any WEP, WPA or other encryption. Android phone connected without issue, cant get it to work with wpa_supplicant on laptop. trying manually, by just "wlan0 0.0.0.0 up ; iwconfig wlan0 essid Radisson_Guest" but it does not associate. does anyone have any ideas what might be missing? |
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| 23:55.48 | iluminati | hi for all |
| 23:57.26 | dvs | THEY FOUND US!! RUN!! |
| 23:57.38 | heap_ | hi, i have my own .config ... for the kernel but when i run make that file got changed. why? |
| 23:58.28 | iluminati | when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same |
| 23:58.46 | heap_ | when i execute make |
| 23:58.47 | heap_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.47 | heap_ | scripts/kconfig/conf --silentoldconfig Kconfig |
| 23:58.47 | heap_ | * |
| 23:58.47 | heap_ | * Restart config... |
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