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| 00:00.57 | iluminati | when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same |
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| 00:01.52 | JohnTitor | iluminati: what do you do exactly? |
| 00:02.12 | devdvd | can anyone think of a reason why the debian 8 installer won't give me the option to install everything to one partition on a 245G disk array? |
| 00:02.27 | kion | How do I unmount an ecryptfs folder? |
| 00:03.20 | iluminati | JohnTitor, i am trying to pair a bluetooth speacker and it connect and it disconnect each time i try |
| 00:03.32 | JohnTitor | iluminati: what do you do /exactly/? |
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| 00:04.54 | iluminati | JohnTitor, the same you are doing =0= |
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| 00:06.35 | iluminati | <o> |
| 00:06.42 | waterlubber | How do i fix a hopelessly broken zorg |
| 00:06.47 | waterlubber | xorg * |
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| 00:06.57 | waterlubber | Graphics driver |
| 00:08.56 | Luticus | waterlubber what's wrong with your xorg? |
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| 00:18.21 | Shadow_7 | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
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| 00:21.47 | GitGud | hey there. question. i'm trying to make my computer make an ssh -D -NfC connection (ssh tunnelling) at startup. where should i write the script |
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| 00:22.36 | GitGud | i know what command to use and i can add the command to rc.local but it keeps asking for my passphrase. how do i connect to the ssh tunnel and programmatically enter the passphrase as well in one command? |
| 00:23.35 | bazhang | what debian is this |
| 00:23.47 | bazhang | ,v systemd |
| 00:23.48 | judd | Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 215-17+deb8u3; sid: 228-2+b1; stretch: 228-2+b1 |
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| 00:24.19 | GitGud | its jessie |
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| 00:25.18 | Shadow_7 | lsb_release -a |
| 00:25.27 | bazhang | you want to add it as a service |
| 00:25.51 | waterlubber | I'm having a lot of trouble with graphics |
| 00:25.58 | GitGud | do i have to mess with systemD ? |
| 00:26.13 | waterlubber | Whenever I boot my computer it drops me to a CLI with no internet and no display, apparently, for x |
| 00:26.14 | bazhang | waterlubber, what card what driver |
| 00:26.22 | waterlubber | R9 270X and fucked up drivers |
| 00:26.27 | waterlubber | I don |
| 00:26.35 | waterlubber | Dammit, apostrophe. Sorry. |
| 00:26.39 | bazhang | thats an ancient card |
| 00:26.50 | waterlubber | 270X isn't anchient |
| 00:27.05 | waterlubber | HD 2400 would be anchient |
| 00:27.11 | bazhang | I have the 290x and it is |
| 00:27.18 | Shadow_7 | it's newer than my hd4550 (which burned up a couple years back) |
| 00:27.18 | waterlubber | Well, that's very nice! |
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| 00:27.56 | bazhang | fglrx wont run on that afaik |
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| 00:28.04 | iluminati | when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same |
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| 00:28.13 | Shadow_7 | old cards run pretty swell with the radeon driver |
| 00:28.24 | bazhang | very |
| 00:28.56 | bazhang | the radeon and my r9 290z run a treat with that |
| 00:28.57 | Shadow_7 | fglrx should run... assuming 3.4 or older kernel |
| 00:29.00 | bazhang | 290x |
| 00:29.32 | bazhang | so downgrade to woody or whatever kernel that is |
| 00:29.33 | brug_ | hi when im trying to install debian even on fresh partition table the bootloader installation fails |
| 00:29.43 | brug_ | both grub and lilo option |
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| 00:30.25 | waterlubber | I see you have lots of money to throw around |
| 00:30.25 | waterlubber | Good for you! |
| 00:30.25 | waterlubber | Now since I don't have hundreds of dollars lying around, I got a 270X |
| 00:30.25 | waterlubber | I had the catalyst properitaries working on Ubuntu a few days ago with the same card |
| 00:30.25 | waterlubber | I tried to install them (following the debian wiki) but somehow bad things happened |
| 00:30.25 | waterlubber | Does anyone have a fallback xorg.conf |
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| 00:30.38 | bazhang | waterlubber, you have the radeon witht hat? |
| 00:31.36 | bazhang | ack gone |
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| 00:32.14 | dvs | back |
| 00:32.18 | Shadow_7 | hundreds of dollars... to buy exotic gpus or multiple hp stream 11s? |
| 00:32.28 | waterlubber | Both |
| 00:32.41 | waterlubber | bazhang: You're completely wrong, it runs fine. |
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| 00:38.43 | Devastator | how do I search for the kernel versions used in debian? judd doesn't seem to like ,v linux-image hehe |
| 00:39.01 | Shadow_7 | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 00:39.03 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.2+68~bpo8+2; stretch: 4.3+70; sid: 4.3+70 |
| 00:39.13 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 00:39.14 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.4.0-rc6-686-pae (4.4~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.3-2); stretch: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.3-2); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.6-3~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.73-2+deb7u1) |
| 00:39.14 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: pff I just can't get it to work :(, I can live without the nvidia gpu, I don't really need that anyways, but I can't live without sound, I guess I just have to reinstall windows |
| 00:39.23 | Devastator | thanks! |
| 00:39.37 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: index # can move between boots |
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| 00:39.54 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: /proc/asound/cards + ~/.asoundrc |
| 00:40.58 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: directory cards doesn't even exist |
| 00:41.07 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I have /proc/asound/card0 |
| 00:41.51 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: so index = 0 so $ rm ~/.asoundrc |
| 00:42.11 | Shadow_7 | plus $ alsamixer -c 0 |
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| 00:42.40 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: I don't even have ~/.asoundrc |
| 00:43.00 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: $ groups |
| 00:43.06 | Aaaaand-its-gone | when i do alsamixer -c 0, I get some gui |
| 00:43.07 | Shadow_7 | you are in the audio group at least I hope |
| 00:43.17 | Aaaaand-its-gone | yes |
| 00:43.24 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I'm logged as root atm |
| 00:43.30 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but my user is in the audio group |
| 00:43.36 | Aaaaand-its-gone | because it's in the sudo group |
| 00:43.51 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: speaker-test -c 2 |
| 00:44.36 | Aaaaand-its-gone | keeps hanging on 0 - Front Left |
| 00:44.51 | tortib | how can I clear my CMOS password? I cleared the CMOS it says the settings were restored to default but it still prompts for a password :( |
| 00:44.54 | Shadow_7 | hangs there 5 seconds by default and switches to right... then left |
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| 00:45.04 | Shadow_7 | The ^C to kill it waits till the switch |
| 00:45.08 | Aaaaand-its-gone | It's already way over 5 sec |
| 00:45.10 | pingfloyd | tortib: usually there's a jumper or you can pull the battery |
| 00:45.21 | brug_ | hello can someone help me how to install grub |
| 00:45.24 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: so something has the soundcard locked. |
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| 00:45.27 | tortib | pingfloyd i tried to pull the battery, left the battery out for one hour and it's still asking for a password |
| 00:45.40 | brug_ | it failed during installation so i skipped it |
| 00:45.45 | pingfloyd | tortib: they must save in non-volatile ram then |
| 00:45.47 | brug_ | now i have no bootloader |
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| 00:45.54 | pingfloyd | that part anyway |
| 00:45.56 | tortib | pingfloyd is there anything I can do? |
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| 00:46.21 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: the initial install came with pulseaudio, I deleted that and I installed alsa, but now the sound symbol even the disappeared right top corner |
| 00:46.32 | Aaaaand-its-gone | and the sound buttons also don't work anymore on the keyboard |
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| 00:46.44 | pingfloyd | tortib: see if there's a bios reset jumper |
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| 00:47.10 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: most gui things kind of expect pulseaudio |
| 00:47.12 | tortib | pingfloyd there is and I shorted it out but it didn't help. There is also a CMOS clear button on the back of the MB which I pressed, it says it reset everything to default but it still asks for the password. |
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| 00:49.59 | tortib | I'm SOL aren't I |
| 00:50.43 | tortib | I'm more than likely going to have to buy a new motherboard because of that asshole |
| 00:51.10 | Aaaaand-its-gone | tortib: you forgot the password? |
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| 00:51.59 | Shadow_7 | It's an MSI mobo that has that quirk if any of the hardware on it is b0rked |
| 00:52.12 | Shadow_7 | gpu, ram, ... |
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| 00:53.12 | Shadow_7 | still not a linux or debian issue though |
| 00:53.33 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: ok I installed pulseaudio again.. Now my videos play again (they stopped playing after I removed it) so it looks like it's back to what it was, the other weird thing is that all the videos play at like 2x normal speed |
| 00:53.48 | Aaaaand-its-gone | without sound of course |
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| 00:54.16 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: mpv --ao=pulse --vo=opengl media.mkv |
| 00:55.23 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I don't have mpv, do I have to install it? |
| 00:55.44 | bazhang | ,v mpv |
| 00:55.45 | judd | Package: mpv on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.2-2; sid: 0.12.0-1; stretch: 0.12.0-1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.8.3-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.14.0-dmo1 |
| 00:56.02 | bazhang | with apt |
| 00:56.18 | Shadow_7 | probably. not installed by default. a fork of what was mplayer/mplayer2 |
| 00:56.38 | bazhang | smplayer can use mpv as a backend as well |
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| 00:58.24 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: http://pastebin.com/Les4M5tL |
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| 01:03.48 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: missing some openGL stuff. # apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-utils |
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| 01:04.51 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: those packages are already installed |
| 01:04.52 | waterlubber | Got an error that says some of my hardware needs non-free firmware, if I have removable media insert it now |
| 01:04.55 | Aaaaand-its-gone | should I reinstall? |
| 01:05.05 | waterlubber | I need rtl_nic/rtl1816e-3.fw |
| 01:05.06 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: glxinfo | more |
| 01:05.09 | waterlubber | How do I get |
| 01:05.16 | Shadow_7 | direct rendering should be : Yes |
| 01:05.29 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: glxgears -info |
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| 01:06.06 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: direct rendering: Yes |
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| 01:08.15 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: for pulseaudio the .asoundrc should contain "pcm.pulse { type pulse }" "ctl.pulse { type pulse }" |
| 01:08.30 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: http://pastebin.com/kiwANWVF |
| 01:09.34 | Aaaaand-its-gone | waterlubber: easiest way is installing after you installed the OS |
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| 01:10.24 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: I don't have .asoundrc |
| 01:10.28 | Aaaaand-its-gone | should I make it myself? |
| 01:10.36 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: yes |
| 01:10.47 | Shadow_7 | some apps have trouble without it's guidance |
| 01:11.11 | Aaaaand-its-gone | where should I put the file? |
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| 01:11.27 | Shadow_7 | in ~/ or /home/<user>/ |
| 01:11.28 | Aaaaand-its-gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.32 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok |
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| 01:13.18 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok I made the file Shadow_7 |
| 01:13.49 | Aaaaand-its-gone | should I reboot or something |
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| 01:14.46 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: running this in a vm? |
| 01:14.56 | Aaaaand-its-gone | no |
| 01:15.24 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but I'm typing on another laptop |
| 01:15.27 | Shadow_7 | your glxinfo would suggest otherwise... vmware |
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| 01:17.13 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I think that is because it's software rendering because it's using my integrated gpu from my intel chip and not my nvidia gpu with hardware rendering Shadow_7 |
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| 01:52.33 | waterlubber | Does anyone know how to install packages from the output of dpkg -l |
| 01:52.52 | dvs | nope |
| 01:53.03 | dvs | but we can from the output of dpkg --get-selections |
| 01:53.09 | Shadow_7 | waterlubber: dpkg --get-selections is more useful |
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| 01:54.31 | Shadow_7 | waterlubber: otherwise $ export COLUMNS=200; dpkg -l | while read INPUT; do PACKAGE=$(echo $INPUT | awk '{ print $1; }'); apt-get install $PACKAGE; done |
| 01:54.34 | Shadow_7 | or something like that |
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| 01:55.13 | Delf | Is it possible to add to debian repositories music? |
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| 01:59.10 | tomreyn | Delf: how do you mean? you would like to install software which manages and plays music using apt? |
| 01:59.45 | Shadow_7 | actually should be $2 not $1 in the above |
| 01:59.56 | tomreyn | Delf: or you would like music files (audio tracks) packaged as debian packages so you can easily make them available ony our computer? |
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| 02:00.55 | bogeyman_atheist | Delf: you could always setup and run your very own repo. |
| 02:01.07 | Delf | tomreyn: The latter. Also, providing the project files as in source of the music, not just the "binary" encoded (exported) music. |
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| 02:01.48 | Shadow_7 | source? are you writting the music in csound / nyquist / ... ... ... ? |
| 02:01.58 | tomreyn | Delf: i'm not aware of such an apt repository, but you could surely set up your own |
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| 02:04.26 | Delf | I'm not "writing music" yet⦠|
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| 02:06.39 | Delf | I'm interested in music but I would like it to be gpl v3. So people can learn and play with it. |
| 02:07.15 | Shadow_7 | chuck and a few other things out there. lmms / muse / ... stuff for creation |
| 02:07.28 | bogeyman_atheist | doesn't Stallman himself use Creative Commons for multimedia files? |
| 02:07.46 | Aaaaand-its-gone | pff ok.. I'm going to install ubuntu, see if I get sound there |
| 02:08.07 | soiled | lol hey aaaaand |
| 02:08.21 | Aaaaand-its-gone | hey soiled |
| 02:08.28 | bogeyman_atheist | Aaaaand-its-gone: Mint is a great distro based on Ubuntu |
| 02:08.46 | soiled | right click the volume icon and open the sound config gui, forget what its named |
| 02:09.00 | bogeyman_atheist | I'm sure you'll love it |
| 02:09.24 | soiled | check if the icons in the volume gui are muted aaaaand |
| 02:09.37 | Aaaaand-its-gone | soiled: my volume icon disappeared, I've messed with it too much |
| 02:09.47 | Delf | bogeyman_atheist: Any clues why? |
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| 02:10.02 | soiled | thats the desktop environment, not debian |
| 02:10.39 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but I used to have the sound icon so that's not the issue |
| 02:10.55 | Aaaaand-its-gone | the issue is that I'm having no sound and videos play at like 2x the speed |
| 02:11.01 | bogeyman_atheist | Delf: yeah, its Cinnamon user interface and software manager and stuff like that appeal to Windows desktop users |
| 02:11.13 | soiled | lol |
| 02:11.26 | Aaaaand-its-gone | pretty soiled |
| 02:11.27 | soiled | probably two different issues |
| 02:11.33 | Delf | bogeyman_atheist: I meant the license for music. |
| 02:11.47 | bogeyman_atheist | Delf: oh, sorry |
| 02:11.47 | Delf | bogeyman_atheist: Cinnamon is available for Debian too ;) |
| 02:11.54 | soiled | did you use a hardware key to mute your computer, then lost sound? |
| 02:11.58 | Aaaaand-its-gone | soiled: I think it's linked because I've read multiple threads with people having the same two issues |
| 02:12.15 | Aaaaand-its-gone | soiled: no |
| 02:12.27 | soiled | damn |
| 02:13.06 | soiled | well open the sound manager gui and check if that works |
| 02:13.17 | soiled | its in there somewhere |
| 02:13.35 | bogeyman_atheist | Delf: I know, but I've noticed Windows end-users tend to get confused by the wealth of options offered by Debian |
| 02:14.15 | bogeyman_atheist | Delf: they complain that things fall apart!! |
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| 02:14.44 | Delf | They should stick with Virus. There's no complaining here. |
| 02:14.47 | soiled | is a distro ultimately defined by its package manager? |
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| 02:15.18 | soiled | how else would you update your machine? |
| 02:15.47 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I can see why linux isn't taking over the desktop market, nobody wants to spend an entire weekend installing their OS :) |
| 02:16.06 | soiled | noob |
| 02:16.07 | bogeyman_atheist | Delf: not only that... every now and then (~6 months) the OS gets bloated with malware and god-know-what, and starts slowing down to a crawl |
| 02:16.14 | Shadow_7 | It takes me about 30 minutes to install debian. And my ISP is 2 megs. |
| 02:16.35 | Aaaaand-its-gone | well yes on a computer with supported hardware |
| 02:16.36 | soiled | it doesn't really matter if you don't care about your info being read by corporations |
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| 02:16.53 | Shadow_7 | hardly supported. 3.19+ kernel for touchpad support |
| 02:17.10 | Shadow_7 | plus more recent firmware not provided by the distro for wifi |
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| 02:17.38 | Shadow_7 | or at least not in stable (yet) |
| 02:17.51 | Aaaaand-its-gone | well yes I also had to install non-free firmware for my wireless card, that was not the issue |
| 02:17.53 | Delf | bogeyman_atheist: Not talking Debian are you? |
| 02:17.56 | Aaaaand-its-gone | it's the goddamn sound |
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| 02:18.06 | soiled | aaand are you on a thinkpad? |
| 02:18.17 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: I would imagine that if you upgraded to sid, most of your issues would probably go away |
| 02:18.25 | Shadow_7 | (and be replaced by other annoyances) |
| 02:18.31 | soiled | lol yep |
| 02:18.42 | Aaaaand-its-gone | no asus zenbook ux305 soiled |
| 02:18.53 | Shadow_7 | the curse of bleeding edge hardware and trailedge distros |
| 02:18.59 | soiled | oh k, had both those issues on my thinkpad. |
| 02:19.15 | soiled | you didn't open the volume gui did you |
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| 02:19.51 | Aaaaand-its-gone | it disappeared |
| 02:20.11 | soiled | its literally the same process as crawling through windows "control panel" |
| 02:20.11 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but I have opened it today |
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| 02:20.28 | soiled | look in the system settings u noob |
| 02:20.43 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: apt-get install pavucontrol |
| 02:21.17 | soiled | why should he download more stuff when he can't configure what he's already got |
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| 02:21.54 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: establishing connection to pulseaudio. Please wait.. |
| 02:22.04 | Aaaaand-its-gone | it can't make a connection with pulsaudio now |
| 02:22.23 | Shadow_7 | when you change the system stuff a reboot does wonders |
| 02:22.31 | soiled | you're hopeless aaand |
| 02:22.42 | Wsewolod | *Aaaaand |
| 02:22.45 | Delf | Do one get paid for being a debian tech support here? |
| 02:22.46 | Wsewolod | :p |
| 02:22.54 | soiled | on phone :( |
| 02:22.56 | Shadow_7 | and if you run virtualized... vmware... you have to enable hardware passthrough for things to work |
| 02:23.14 | soiled | cuz tryna get my box working with another os |
| 02:23.15 | Wsewolod | Delf: a lot of the open source web doesn't work like that. |
| 02:23.52 | soiled | aaaa |
| 02:23.56 | Shadow_7 | we get paid in tree ferrets. when we have enough we'll unleash them on the world and the non-debian users will run around headless |
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| 02:24.19 | soiled | debian is meh tbh |
| 02:24.42 | Shadow_7 | meh is better than a hard X lock in the middle of a boss fight |
| 02:25.00 | Shadow_7 | (looking at you arch) |
| 02:25.05 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: ok pavucontrol works now |
| 02:25.11 | Aaaaand-its-gone | (after reboot) |
| 02:25.14 | soiled | yeah arch is worse |
| 02:25.23 | soiled | yay |
| 02:25.54 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: works as in scribbles screen vomit? or actually does something useful? |
| 02:26.12 | Aaaaand-its-gone | what's useful |
| 02:26.22 | soiled | works |
| 02:26.28 | Shadow_7 | selecting soundcard and hearing noises |
| 02:26.49 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I don't hear anything |
| 02:26.59 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but I'm playing a youtube vid and i can see a beam moving |
| 02:27.17 | Shadow_7 | not all youtube videos have audio |
| 02:27.18 | Aaaaand-its-gone | in the tab output devices |
| 02:27.19 | soiled | gotta watch out for those beams |
| 02:27.26 | Delf | Wsewolod: In that case maybe I could contribute since I don't have a job and I don't need a job either. |
| 02:27.26 | Aaaaand-its-gone | this one has, it's a music videoo |
| 02:27.39 | bogeyman_atheist | Would I get kicked if I recommended a non-Debian distro to someone? |
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| 02:28.06 | soiled | if you did that'd be lame |
| 02:28.12 | Delf | Got time but not much of a brains. |
| 02:28.14 | Wsewolod | bogeyman_atheist: plenty of people use multiple distros for their work |
| 02:28.22 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: I also have no sound with speaker-test |
| 02:28.29 | soiled | which distro? i'm playing with qubes atm |
| 02:28.33 | Wsewolod | And there are distros besides Debian that are excellent for different things. |
| 02:28.37 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: alsamixer has levels > 0 ? |
| 02:28.47 | Delf | Wsewolod: No, there is not. Debian, period! |
| 02:28.56 | Shadow_7 | and solid boxes on the bottom, not muted channels? |
| 02:28.59 | Wsewolod | I do like Debian a lot. |
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| 02:29.26 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: when I run the alsamixer command, I see one beam with muster and it says 00 |
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| 02:29.31 | Aaaaand-its-gone | *master |
| 02:29.44 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: cursor that up to at least 50 |
| 02:30.06 | Shadow_7 | I think F1 goes to the help screen, ESC to return |
| 02:30.07 | Delf | Aaaaand-its-gone: Use m to toggle mute. |
| 02:30.16 | Aaaaand-its-gone | oh wait it was 40<>40 |
| 02:30.23 | Aaaaand-its-gone | and now I put it at 50<>50 |
| 02:30.31 | Aaaaand-its-gone | but it still says 00 above that |
| 02:30.35 | Delf | F1 seems to launch the help for gnome-terminal, not alsamixer |
| 02:30.56 | Aaaaand-its-gone | indeed Delf |
| 02:31.15 | Shadow_7 | typing ? seems to be roughly the same as F1 when your de is a hooser |
| 02:31.20 | Delf | So what you can do is start xterm and then start alsamixer there |
| 02:31.39 | awal1 | Delf: +1 |
| 02:32.50 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok I did that, xterm seems to be some other command line program, and I'm running alsamixer in it now, when I press f1 I get an help page from alsamiser I suppose |
| 02:34.01 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: basically "M" and the cursor keys to change stuff. And ESC to exit |
| 02:34.36 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: these settings should also be in pavucontrol |
| 02:34.38 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok it now says MM instead of 00, I put it at 50 and I pressed esc |
| 02:34.45 | Shadow_7 | as well as gmix, kmix, ... ... ... |
| 02:35.07 | Shadow_7 | it should say 00 to have sound |
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| 02:35.31 | Shadow_7 | M == muted |
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| 02:36.19 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok I put it back at 00 |
| 02:36.35 | Shadow_7 | master and the other channels need to be increased to hear stuff. like pcm |
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| 02:37.14 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I only see master channel, I put it at 50 |
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| 02:37.30 | Aaaaand-its-gone | that's 50% |
| 02:37.40 | bogeyman_atheist | Aaaaand-its-gone: try choosing your sound card (F6) |
| 02:37.54 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: press tab |
| 02:38.05 | bogeyman_atheist | Aaaaand-its-gone: then hit F5 |
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| 02:38.38 | Aaaaand-its-gone | ok now I see more channels |
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| 02:38.56 | Aaaaand-its-gone | master, headphone, speaker, pcm, mic boos, mic boos, S/PDIF, beep |
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| 02:39.22 | bogeyman_atheist | turn up everything to maximum except the mic |
| 02:39.25 | Aaaaand-its-gone | that's for All (f5) |
| 02:39.25 | Shadow_7 | master, headphone, speaker, pcm, beep... need to be unmuted and up |
| 02:40.08 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: ok I did that |
| 02:40.21 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: but I can't change the mute status of pcm |
| 02:40.38 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: it should toggle with master |
| 02:40.59 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: no speaker toggles with master not pcm |
| 02:41.05 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I can't even see the mute status of pcm |
| 02:41.14 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: as long as one of them gives you sound |
| 02:41.15 | bogeyman_atheist | Aaaaand-its-gone: on pcm hit M |
| 02:41.24 | bogeyman_atheist | uppercase M |
| 02:41.37 | Aaaaand-its-gone | does nothing bogeyman_atheist |
| 02:42.34 | awal1 | Aaaaand-its-gone: is pulse installed there? |
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| 02:44.00 | bogeyman_atheist | Aaaaand-its-gone: try this: amixer -q set PCM unmute |
| 02:44.06 | Aaaaand-its-gone | bogeyman_atheist: anony.ws/image/jfC8 |
| 02:44.48 | awal1 | if yes, pavucontrol with solve your problem. If you don't understand what pavu does exactly, run any audio player while playing with pavucontrol settings and you will be done |
| 02:44.54 | awal1 | will ^ |
| 02:44.56 | Aaaaand-its-gone | bogeyman_atheist: http://anony.ws/image/JfC8 |
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| 02:45.32 | Shadow_7 | except that youtube videos in browser may not have sound depending on factors. But almost everything else will |
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| 02:46.35 | Aaaaand-its-gone | bogeyman_atheist: Aaaaand-its-gone: try this: amixer -q set PCM unmute -> amixer: unable to find simple control PCM |
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| 02:49.09 | Aaaaand-its-gone | awal1: so I'm running a video with sound while running pavucontrol |
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| 02:51.19 | waterlubber | How do I install the 3D accel drivers |
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| 02:54.49 | Aaaaand-its-gone | waterlubber: what gpu do you have |
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| 02:58.52 | awal1 | ,v qas-mixer |
| 02:58.53 | judd | No package named 'qas-mixer' was found in amd64. |
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| 03:00.06 | awal1 | Aaaaand-its-gone: qasmixer is a nice tool for sound too, less complex then pavu |
| 03:00.14 | awal1 | ,v qasmixer |
| 03:00.15 | judd | Package: qasmixer on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.17.2-2; stretch: 0.18.0-1; sid: 0.18.0-1; jessie: 0.18.0-1 |
| 03:01.07 | bogeyman_atheist | Aaaaand-its-gone: I'm out of ideas, but try this as well: comment out "module-device-restore" in /etc/pulse/default.pa, then reboot |
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| 03:02.57 | awal1 | Aaaaand-its-gone: try killing pulse then start it again |
| 03:03.26 | awal1 | killall -9 pulseaudio pulseaudio --start |
| 03:03.45 | Delf | The module-device-restore might do the trick, Aaaaand-its-gone. |
| 03:04.03 | Aaaaand-its-gone | bogeyman_atheist: you mean "load-module module-device-restore" |
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| 03:04.19 | Aaaaand-its-gone | awal1: I already tried that |
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| 03:06.25 | awal1 | Aaaaand-its-gone: something is muted there, try rebooting |
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| 03:07.19 | Aaaaand-its-gone | so I commented out "load-module module-device-restore" in /etc/pulse/default.pa and rebooted, then I ran the command speaker-test and I don't hear anything :( |
| 03:08.22 | Aaaaand-its-gone | isn't there a way to see if the driver is working |
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| 03:09.06 | Aaaaand-its-gone | because it looks like it came with some exotic sound system, on the laptop case it says "Audio by ICEpower | Bang & Olufsen Technology" |
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| 03:12.09 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I'm using snd_hda_intel as driver |
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| 03:35.05 | waterlubber | How do I know if my graphics card drivers are installed correctly |
| 03:35.11 | waterlubber | I tried installing the FOSS ones |
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| 03:48.27 | Aaaaand-its-gone | waterlubber: you should see the driver when you do lshw -c video |
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| 03:48.51 | johnfg | hey guys |
| 03:49.15 | johnfg | I'm installing openafs server & client on a new jessie install. |
| 03:50.00 | johnfg | I was expecting this at the install: DB server host names for your home cell:, and I would have entered afs1. But that dialog didn't come up. Any idea where I'd enter this? |
| 03:52.19 | johnfg | Also, because of conflicts, when I did this new install of jessie, I did not use my existing (wheezy) /var partition. What's the best way to migrate files from /var on /dev/sda9, part of /, to /dev/sda3 mounted on /var? |
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| 04:01.10 | socomm | OpenAFS? That sounds familiar. |
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| 04:09.18 | ilk | E: Unable to locate package hexchat <--- no longer in repos? |
| 04:09.35 | ilk | adding ppa failed to update |
| 04:09.45 | socomm | ilk: apt-cache search hexchat |
| 04:09.57 | ilk | ok thanks socomm |
| 04:10.10 | socomm | ilk: Also, all the cool kids are using weechat-curses nowadays. |
| 04:10.32 | poffs | ilk, maybe you should pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:13.24 | ilk | ok here is etc/apt/sources |
| 04:13.28 | ilk | http://pastebin.com/8eVZVFKL |
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| 04:26.46 | johnfg | What's your thoughts about going to a separate partition for /var? What's the best way to go about it? |
| 04:26.55 | dequeues | Is there a way to create a user and home but without copying the skeleton files? |
| 04:28.16 | beepie | dequeues, yeah with useradd, i think omitting using -k means not to copy /etc/skel |
| 04:29.06 | beepie | johnfg, if you're storing large databases then /var would be the place for it-- it's for volatile items for apt cache and downloaded .debs as well |
| 04:29.28 | dequeues | -k changes the skeleton directory |
| 04:30.18 | beepie | well you can symlink /etc/skel to a blank location XD |
| 04:30.41 | johnfg | beepie: right. I've had /var a separate partition since many versions ago. But in upgrading to jessie, which ended up being a new install, I wasn't able to use my existing /var. |
| 04:30.49 | beepie | or maybe use an empty SKEL= |
| 04:31.04 | beepie | johnfg, well you did something wrong then |
| 04:31.05 | dequeues | I didn't think blank would work.. but it did |
| 04:31.07 | dequeues | Thank you, lol |
| 04:31.12 | beepie | dequeues, great :) |
| 04:31.17 | johnfg | So, how would I migrate the existing /var to /dev/sda3 /var. |
| 04:31.34 | johnfg | beepie: No doubt, but it was my only choice, at a certain point. |
| 04:31.43 | beepie | johnfg, you just copy what's in /var to the root partition, then update fstab, then mount /var |
| 04:31.51 | beepie | johnfg, (delete later the source) |
| 04:31.59 | aedinius | newfs /dev/sda3; mount /dev/sda3 /mnt; mv /var/* /mnt; umount /mnt/; mount /dev/sda3 /var |
| 04:32.11 | aedinius | probably best in single user |
| 04:32.23 | johnfg | thanks guys. |
| 04:32.35 | beepie | i think it's safer as well to do it in single-user as well |
| 04:32.53 | johnfg | would rsync -avz be better for moving things? |
| 04:33.40 | beepie | you can copy or move it doesn't matter, but the /var mountpoint should be empty after |
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| 04:35.12 | beepie | says /dev/sda3 is a separate root partition |
| 04:35.20 | aedinius | mv should keep all the perms/etc |
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| 05:04.06 | beepie | johnfg, did it work? |
| 05:04.09 | beepie | !works |
| 05:04.09 | dpkg | works is, like, something I am |
| 05:04.17 | beepie | !/var |
| 05:04.17 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier". |
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| 05:36.19 | idaem | any body here? |
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| 05:37.07 | kmh | yeah :) |
| 05:37.26 | idaem | what is the topic here |
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| 05:38.12 | kmh | Debian 8 Jessie released! /msg dpkg jessie ; /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie ; /msg dpkg install jessie | current point releases: /msg dpkg 8.2; /msg dpkg 7.9 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog ? |
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| 05:39.08 | ndiddy | I installed Debian with xfce, but didn't like it so I decided to go to mate instead. i uninstalled xfce stuff, but now whenever I try to install a package, aptitude says that it's removing a bunch of automatically installed packages that are "no longer needed" such as xorg |
| 05:39.24 | ndiddy | how do i fix this? |
| 05:39.34 | AnonX431 | Test |
| 05:39.36 | ndiddy | wait, nvm |
| 05:39.44 | ndiddy | sudo apt-get -f install fixed it |
| 05:39.58 | ndiddy | thanks for everything |
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| 07:06.00 | juul | how do i remove build-deps? |
| 07:08.32 | juul | wait, of course i found the answer shortly after asking: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/undo-apt-get-build-dep-remove-build.html |
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| 08:20.48 | Guest74559 | hi there |
| 08:22.09 | Guest74559 | i'm looking for help because i can't shutdown reboot my debian laptop |
| 08:22.37 | Guest74559 | who can help me please ? |
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| 08:22.45 | well_laid_lawn | try sudo poweroff |
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| 08:23.23 | Guest74559 | i tried but nothing happens |
| 08:24.06 | well_laid_lawn | hold the power button down for 5+ seconds and then boot it |
| 08:24.45 | Guest74559 | i tried as root shutdown -h now in console but nothing changes |
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| 08:25.58 | Guest74559 | holding power button is not a solution |
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| 08:26.05 | well_laid_lawn | why not ? |
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| 08:27.25 | Guest74559 | try it on your computer and then you will understand |
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| 08:30.58 | Guest74559 | i'm looking for help because i can't shutdown reboot my debian laptop |
| 08:31.05 | Guest74559 | i tried as root shutdown -h now in console but nothing changes |
| 08:31.11 | Guest74559 | who can help me please ? |
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| 08:31.28 | well_laid_lawn | I tried |
| 08:32.18 | Guest74559 | thx any other advice ? |
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| 08:41.34 | morf | Guest74559: try pressing power off button to trigger acpi shutdown |
| 08:42.00 | morf | if it won't help, hold it until the laptop shutdown |
| 08:42.35 | Guest74559 | morf: i tried but nothing happens and system logs are empty about this |
| 08:42.38 | morf | in worst case you can always disconnect ac adapter, and put battery out |
| 08:43.02 | morf | dunno |
| 08:44.21 | Guest74559 | logs only say power key pressed |
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| 09:06.36 | nname31 | hello |
| 09:06.59 | nname31 | how can add more models in ngspice? |
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| 09:10.41 | DoctorD90 | good morning guys! im installing debian. How may I choose gpt as type of partition table? |
| 09:11.47 | hiexpo | ? gpt |
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| 09:12.40 | Logg | morning doctor. If there's not an option in the installer, use gparted. |
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| 09:13.31 | hiexpo | yup partion it first |
| 09:14.28 | _abc_ | Hello. I have trouble with qemu and kvm on amd64 x2. Is there a wheezy centric howto? I installed all modules and they are present, the cpu has amd-v, but starting qmue with -enable-kvm complains "kvm module not present" |
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| 09:14.43 | _abc_ | Do I have to load the modules manually? /etc/rcS.d/S04qemu-kvm exists |
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| 09:16.07 | hiexpo | install them with kvm if that's what yo want sudo kvm install kvm gem ? |
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| 09:17.54 | _abc_ | GAAAHHH after a few days I finally read dmesg after insmod kvm_amd -> kvm: disabled by bios |
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| 09:18.02 | hiexpo | but i'm no ruby guy |
| 09:18.03 | _abc_ | Sh*t. Problem solved. |
| 09:18.05 | Logg | lol |
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| 09:18.35 | hiexpo | :\) |
| 09:18.37 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, Logg installer, seems that it parts itself the disk |
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| 09:18.47 | DoctorD90 | so i dont know at the end what it will use :) |
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| 09:19.12 | DoctorD90 | atm i have parted disk with gparted using gpt instead of mbr(dos) |
| 09:19.27 | _abc_ | Now I need to make the headless machine headed to get at the bios. WHEN will people start shipping serial enabled bios? PLEASE? It's really easy to implement, easyer than standard "curses" based bios |
| 09:19.28 | DoctorD90 | but later? installer will re-format? |
| 09:19.38 | hiexpo | it will install the gem but you always have to use perm to use it |
| 09:19.52 | _abc_ | Does anyone here use freebios with debian servers or headless machines? Does it work well with serial only? |
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| 09:20.56 | hiexpo | rvm is a pain |
| 09:21.13 | Logg | I don't know for sure, but I don't think the installer will reformat it, it should use the partitions you made in gparted |
| 09:22.17 | Logg | I think you should try it, and check afterwards to see if it kept it. |
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| 09:22.45 | hiexpo | just make the partition and use it so plain and simple |
| 09:22.55 | Logg | that's what I think |
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| 09:23.25 | DoctorD90 | Logg, thx :) so i cant stay "safier"....and another question. I have to install on a portable :) (how check? i dont know...or may I google..this is a simple task) I would encrypt it. I would use LUKS with "nuke" patch. What do you suggest? :) |
| 09:23.38 | hiexpo | if you call a duck a duckit is a duck |
| 09:25.07 | Logg | I haven't gotten into disk encryption yet. here's a wiki article on it though, which would be a good place to begin research, I guess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encryption_software |
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| 09:25.39 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, I havent gotcha it XD |
| 09:25.43 | hiexpo | quit readinglol |
| 09:25.50 | morf | bye |
| 09:25.51 | morf | ;) |
| 09:26.13 | DoctorD90 | Logg, I have read also about slow speed...And using and not using LVM....these are my main "trouble" :) |
| 09:26.36 | morf | the disk encryption is surprisingly painless |
| 09:27.00 | morf | and i don't see any obvious performance issue |
| 09:27.23 | morf | however i'm still somehow paraoind about locking myself out somehow :P |
| 09:27.27 | hiexpo | ther's ot |
| 09:27.45 | Logg | you can check partition table in gparted |
| 09:28.00 | Logg | view -> device information |
| 09:28.01 | hiexpo | ^not |
| 09:28.07 | DoctorD90 | morf, i read about lock home, var, tmp, and swap too :P |
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| 09:28.52 | morf | nevermind |
| 09:29.06 | hiexpo | it's fine |
| 09:29.49 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, so arent there so many "performance slow down"? |
| 09:30.00 | hiexpo | no |
| 09:30.16 | DoctorD90 | ah good to know :) |
| 09:30.53 | DoctorD90 | and what do you suggest(and possible why)? using an LVM in which create each encrypted partiotion, or create different logical partition? |
| 09:32.29 | hiexpo | stupid to do that why ? |
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| 09:34.54 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, what do you mean? 0o |
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| 09:35.16 | DoctorD90 | i dont know. Im reading many article on the net, so i have a little bit of confusion |
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| 09:36.43 | hiexpo | that's like saying im a hacker i'm gonna install kali linux worst operating system it's open it's a pentest distro lol i would never use it |
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| 09:37.55 | DoctorD90 | lol |
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| 09:38.25 | ledufakademy | hello |
| 09:38.52 | hiexpo | that's why i compile my own stuff |
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| 09:39.06 | DoctorD90 | i use it xD ahahahah btw....due to this i ask :) because somewhere i found out some possibility, like create an LVM, and create encrytped partition inside it. or create separated encrpyted partition each one |
| 09:39.08 | hiexpo | and build my own system |
| 09:39.19 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, im try to building one mine too :D |
| 09:39.28 | ledufakademy | where can i find a book or site in order to explain me how gnu/linux work , now , with systemD : boot sequence, network conf etc . i 'm skill with old init.d |
| 09:39.57 | hiexpo | i build mine on debian 7 but control it |
| 09:40.27 | hiexpo | never root on booot lol |
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| 09:42.32 | hiexpo | it's like nessus open that port im in |
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| 09:45.35 | hiexpo | worst system I have ever seen is kali it's open all ports why wold you do that? I'll still to my own or Pentoo - Gentoo |
| 09:45.41 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, i havent fully understood |
| 09:45.52 | DoctorD90 | what do you meen never root on boot? |
| 09:46.19 | hiexpo | kali is root on boot |
| 09:46.58 | hiexpo | look at the ports |
| 09:47.10 | hiexpo | that are open |
| 09:47.11 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: I suggest lvm inside encrypted partition |
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| 09:48.24 | hiexpo | hardened |
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| 09:49.23 | DoctorD90 | hiexpo, aaa....sure! my distro target is "windows' nood" :) so never root at boot :D |
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| 09:49.54 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, why? :) (im looking to understand pro/contro of each decision, so I can learn :) ) |
| 09:50.44 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: less maintenance, and you can freely use lvm resizing/etc without touching crypttab |
| 09:51.54 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: no need to explicit encrypting swap, no need to pass keys to other partitions |
| 09:52.30 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: I'm using hierarchy like this http://pastebin.com/umWmHNBe |
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| 09:54.16 | hiexpo | just got a new scanner for xmas love it radio shack 651 best scanner ever yet |
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| 09:54.45 | hiexpo | made by motorola |
| 09:54.54 | hiexpo | nice |
| 09:55.21 | Guest63566 | I am trying to install debian, but it cannot find my hard drive... have no idea why |
| 09:56.00 | hiexpo | booting with a usb? |
| 09:56.14 | Guest63566 | yes, with a usb |
| 09:56.27 | Guest63566 | debian 8.2.0 |
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| 09:57.57 | Guest63566 | seems there is a kind of raid controller there: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile SATA Controller |
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| 09:59.04 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, in what terms do you say "no need to encrypt swap/ pass keys to other partitions? |
| 10:00.39 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: when underlaying partition layer is encrypted everything you make on higher one still will be |
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| 10:01.28 | hiexpo | exactly |
| 10:01.48 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: if you create several encrypted paritions you either have to enter keys for each one, or mount the first one and automount following ones with key file |
| 10:02.05 | Amun_Ra | files* |
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| 10:03.57 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: and if you have enc inside lvm there's another layer that needs to be resized if you need to |
| 10:04.17 | DoctorD90 | ok, so creating 1 phisical encrypted partition, and several logiacl inside it, with LVM, I can enter only 1 pass and game is done? |
| 10:04.37 | Guest63566 | ....sorry for the noise, I suddenly found the correct keyword to Google. |
| 10:04.47 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: yes, because there's only one such partition |
| 10:05.24 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: just don't forget to create unencrypted boot |
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| 10:07.59 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, and in case I will boot from a live system, and try to access that partiont? |
| 10:08.04 | DoctorD90 | partition* |
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| 10:10.13 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: use cryptsetup to mount encrypted part, use lvm to recreate groups, mount partitions |
| 10:10.37 | DoctorD90 | ok...nothing about "double click"...lol |
| 10:11.04 | DoctorD90 | and about "nuke" patch on luks? I disover it on kali :) |
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| 10:15.25 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, :P |
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| 10:15.32 | DoctorD90 | forgot nick :P |
| 10:16.22 | fatar | Hello i'm trying to install debian via usb boot, I can't seem to combine the three isos and then put the image on the usb, is there something I must do I am not aware of? |
| 10:17.02 | xand | er, three ISOs? you only need one |
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| 10:18.06 | DoctorD90 | yep..only one |
| 10:18.08 | fatar | When I download the image from debian, I had 3 amd64 isos, numbered dvd-1 dvd-2 and dvd-3 |
| 10:18.12 | fatar | so I grabbed them all |
| 10:18.54 | DoctorD90 | fatal, ehm....I understand....let me check....what debian DE do you want to use? Gnome? Lxde? |
| 10:19.03 | jelly | fatar: install from the first one and ignore the others until after installation |
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| 10:19.26 | fatar | alright got it, thanks jelly |
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| 10:44.16 | nname31 | how can add bjt models (pnp, npn) in ngspice? |
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| 10:54.40 | Amun_Ra | this is not exactly right channel for that question |
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| 11:14.45 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, may i go in that way: from live system, format disk in gpt, crate 2 partitions, 1 250mega for boot, another one, encrypted with LUKS+nuke patch; then start debian installer and gives debian installer the other stuff to do? :) |
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| 11:54.54 | jflkj | Hi, I want to move from ubuntu to debian. I made a backup of the most important folders ChanServ and I was wondering what would be the proper way to put it into debian |
| 11:55.20 | jflkj | whoops, I meant most important folders and* |
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| 11:55.31 | jflkj | most've pushed tab |
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| 11:56.44 | jelly | jflkj: just copy the contents from user's HOME back to their place? |
| 11:57.01 | jelly | preferably retaining permissions |
| 11:57.04 | d1e2381dcdadfc59 | lll |
| 11:57.15 | d1e2381dcdadfc59 | 123 |
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| 11:57.23 | jflkj | jelly: is that possible from ubuntu to debian? should I be root doing it? |
| 11:57.57 | jflkj | jelly: I heard the config files would conflict |
| 11:58.04 | jelly | jflkj: yes. It depends, you probably don't have to be but you may need to fix ownerships afterwards if you do it as root |
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| 12:04.19 | jflkj | jelly: I made a backup of etc, home, opt, root and var from ubuntu. Will it work if I just paste them into my new debian system replacing the default folders? |
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| 12:06.35 | jelly | jflkj: no, pasting /etc and /var indiscrimintely will screw up your syste, |
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| 12:07.29 | jelly | jflkj: you can clone your home as-is but for everything else it needs to be done on a service-by-service basis |
| 12:07.53 | jflkj | jelly: so I should only backup home? :s |
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| 12:08.19 | jelly | jflkj: it depends on what services you're running. |
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| 12:09.01 | jelly | jflkj: "only /home can be copied as-is, everything else may be useful, but should NOT be copied as-is" |
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| 12:12.22 | jflkj | thanks jelly , I was also wondering if (and how) I can keep programs I installed from apt-get. For example, will things like irssi have to be reinstalled or can I restore it from the backup? |
| 12:12.22 | apt | jflkj: de rien |
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| 12:13.01 | jelly | jflkj: you definitely have to install it. However. |
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| 12:13.11 | jelly | dpkg, tell jflkj about aptitude clone |
| 12:13.19 | jelly | that may be of help |
| 12:15.06 | jflkj | jelly: with install it do you mean reinstall it from the debian repos where a backup of it would be useless? |
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| 12:17.49 | jelly | jflkj: backup of the software itself is useless, yes, install it from debian repos. |
| 12:18.08 | jflkj | ah ok |
| 12:18.13 | jelly | backup of your configuration in your home is not useless |
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| 12:25.23 | sasha_ | dpkg, tell sasha_ about smart questions |
| 12:25.56 | jelly | sasha_: you can also ask the bot in private /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 13:16.12 | jflkj | I'm trying to copy a folder into another folder using sudo cp -r folder1 folder2 but it won't let me copy the entire thing, apparently. using du -sbh it differs |
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| 13:25.55 | ikonia | jflkj: what version of debian |
| 13:27.06 | jflkj | ikonia: using ubuntu, however I think this is a general linux thing and #linux doesn't allow unregistereds to talk so I'm posting it in distro channels |
| 13:27.37 | ikonia | that seems wrong |
| 13:27.48 | ikonia | just because it's "general linux' you don't post in debian with ubuntu roblems |
| 13:27.49 | ikonia | problems |
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| 13:41.14 | folivora | Hi, gnome-settigs -> sound does not list any sound devices but aplay -l + alsamixer lists those ( http://pastie.org/10655079 ) |
| 13:41.40 | hiya | anyone knows about openvpn .p12? |
| 13:41.46 | hiya | does it work with NM ? |
| 13:41.48 | folivora | Any idea which folder in $HOME/.config does have the configurations for sound devices ? |
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| 13:43.24 | Shadow_7 | folivora: .config/pulse/ or .asoundrc |
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| 13:50.52 | folivora | Shadow_7: seems that I've some sound configuration for alsa and it cant find the soundcard, but where is the file http://pastie.org/10655107 |
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| 13:52.34 | Shadow_7 | folivora: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 13:52.58 | Shadow_7 | and echo "defaults.pcm.card #" > .asoundrc ... where # is the index of the card you want to be default |
| 13:53.20 | Shadow_7 | plus alsamixer -c # to set the levels and un-mute (muted by default) |
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| 13:54.18 | folivora | Shadow_7: thanks, but I can't find that file which is determining that device=hw:3,0 . no $HOME/.asoundrc neither /etc/asound.conf file |
| 13:54.55 | folivora | I would want to find that file... |
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| 13:56.28 | Shadow_7 | folivora: for what player? /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf ? |
| 13:57.24 | Shadow_7 | if you mistakenly run pulseaudio as root it polutes / with /.pulse and friends |
| 13:57.30 | Shadow_7 | which get in the way |
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| 13:58.25 | Shadow_7 | otherwise pavucontrol to change your soundcard if you do run pulseaudio |
| 13:58.48 | Shadow_7 | (default) soundcard anyway |
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| 14:02.36 | folivora | hmm, did you check that last pastie, pulseaudio -vvvvv shows that error since, some settings file is pointing to wrong soundcard |
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| 14:03.27 | zett_zelett | Ok, so it seems like I managed to accidentally unmount /dev and /sys. I canât reboot properly. Whatâs the best and cleanest way to solve this? |
| 14:03.31 | zett_zelett | (Am on this machine right now.) |
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| 14:04.08 | zett_zelett | (Iâm using zsh inside emacs, because I canât initialize pseudo-ttys as of now.) |
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| 14:05.40 | Shadow_7 | folivora: might check /etc/pulse/ daemon.pa ? client.conf ? |
| 14:05.57 | Shadow_7 | default.conf or some such too |
| 14:06.46 | Shadow_7 | folivora: egrep -r -i hw .config/pulse/* |
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| 14:07.01 | Shadow_7 | folivora: egrep -r -i hw /etc/pulse/* |
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| 14:08.03 | folivora | /etc/pulse/default.pa has lines: default.pa:load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:3,0 |
| 14:08.18 | Shadow_7 | the module-alsa-sink would imply a hardcoded value in those configurations |
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| 14:08.48 | Shadow_7 | folivora: probably comment out or remove the device= part |
| 14:09.03 | Shadow_7 | and it should be less grumpy |
| 14:09.55 | Shadow_7 | I got a few of those on mine... all commented out |
| 14:10.22 | folivora | commented out and pulseaukio -k ; pulseaudio -vvvvv |
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| 14:10.30 | folivora | and now I've got the sound-devices :) |
| 14:10.35 | folivora | Thank you! |
| 14:10.47 | Shadow_7 | folivora: pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start |
| 14:10.53 | Shadow_7 | are the more official ways to revamp it |
| 14:11.07 | Shadow_7 | although --kill implies autorespawn = no |
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| 14:11.31 | harper | Is it possible to convert rpm to deb |
| 14:11.58 | Shadow_7 | harper: yes... alien |
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| 14:13.05 | zett_zelett | Anyone, please? |
| 14:13.07 | harper | will converting a package file break the dependency |
| 14:14.09 | Shadow_7 | depends on the dependencies and if their met by debian |
| 14:14.49 | Shadow_7 | harper: alien something.rpm && dpkg -i something.deb |
| 14:14.53 | Shadow_7 | about the only way to find out |
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| 14:16.44 | zett_zelett | Or can someone at least assert that it will probably be ok to just reboot improperly, i.e. by pressing the on/off-button for three seconds etc? |
| 14:17.13 | Shadow_7 | zett_zelett: depends on the / filesystem really |
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| 14:17.45 | Shadow_7 | if acpid is in play it might do the shutdown proceedure on the initial push |
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| 14:18.35 | zett_zelett | acpid? |
| 14:19.05 | zett_zelett | Or is that directed at folivora again? |
| 14:19.46 | Shadow_7 | acpi has events. button.sh is the script for shutting down when the power button is pushed |
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| 14:20.25 | zett_zelett | So I should just try out? |
| 14:20.57 | zett_zelett | Say the system is shut down, will it reboot normally? |
| 14:21.11 | zett_zelett | Or do I have to fear for it? |
| 14:21.13 | Shadow_7 | actually powerbtn-acpi-support.sh is the script |
| 14:21.38 | Shadow_7 | if you have root / sudo you could just do a reboot / shutdown -r |
| 14:21.45 | zett_zelett | Wonât work. |
| 14:21.47 | tremon | zett_zelett: if all else fails, alt-sysrq-U will mount everything readonly (although debian may have disabled it by default) |
| 14:21.56 | zett_zelett | >sudo shutdown -r now Failed to talk to init daemon. |
| 14:22.05 | tremon | oh no, that's alt-sysrq-r |
| 14:22.19 | tremon | u will try to umount everything... probably not what you want |
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| 14:22.24 | Shadow_7 | zett_zelett: try shutdown -r +0 |
| 14:22.33 | Shadow_7 | (stupid systemd changed shutdown) |
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| 14:23.08 | zett_zelett | Ok, letâs try this. Fingers crossed. Thanks. |
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| 14:23.29 | zett_zelett | âFailed to talk to shutdownd, proceeding with immediate shutdown: Connection refusedâ, nope. |
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| 14:23.35 | Shadow_7 | although +0 is supposed to be assumed when now is used. Although experience suggest otherwise |
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| 14:24.06 | Shadow_7 | zett_zelett: perhaps a dbus issue |
| 14:24.15 | zett_zelett | tremon: How do I invoke that? |
| 14:24.20 | zett_zelett | Is that like a command that should work? |
| 14:24.36 | tremon | it's the kernel's magic sysrq |
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| 14:25.13 | tremon | I believe debian has it neutered by default though |
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| 14:25.45 | zett_zelett | Hm, â¦. Ok I will just try to reboot it improperly. See where that leaves me. |
| 14:25.48 | zett_zelett | Wish me luck. |
| 14:25.54 | tremon | should be fine |
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| 14:26.12 | tremon | unless you have a lot of disk activity |
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| 14:27.35 | zett_zelett | Ok, went fine. Thanks guys! |
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| 15:08.37 | edoardo | Hi, I'm back |
| 15:08.47 | edoardo | And still having problems |
| 15:09.12 | edoardo | I tried all the Debian images my vps provider has for Jessie, but i always get this error |
| 15:09.24 | edoardo | /run/udev or .udevdb or .udev presence implies active udev. Aborting MAKEDEV invocation. |
| 15:09.30 | edoardo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:09.38 | edoardo | when doing anything package-related |
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| 15:16.18 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: you could always stop udev |
| 15:16.37 | Shadow_7 | or repackage their thing to NOT do the check |
| 15:16.45 | edoardo | Hmm |
| 15:16.58 | edoardo | I think the problem is related to another error i get |
| 15:17.00 | Shadow_7 | or get them to fix their thing |
| 15:17.03 | edoardo | chmod: cannot access '/dev/fuse': No such file or directory |
| 15:17.31 | edoardo | https://paste.debian.net/356593/ this is the full error |
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| 15:19.13 | edoardo | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: fuse is broken or not fully installed |
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| 15:19.20 | edoardo | nice |
| 15:19.21 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: every try an # apt-get -f install |
| 15:19.37 | edoardo | same exact error |
| 15:20.11 | edoardo | hang on, i just uninstalled fuse |
| 15:20.16 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/fuse(tab)(tab) |
| 15:20.29 | Ryssk_ | Hi! I got some small issue, regarding mdadm, i just recently moved from a Xpenology to a Debian Gnome. The Arrays are coming up nice and everything, but when i do Fdisk -l it doesnt show the correct amount of disks |
| 15:20.58 | Ryssk_ | + The arrays are showing the right amount of storage on both raid configurations |
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| 15:21.01 | edoardo | https://paste.debian.net/356594/ |
| 15:21.08 | edoardo | Shadow_7: ^^ |
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| 15:21.59 | edoardo | i just noticed something tho |
| 15:22.01 | edoardo | Linux vps11319 2.6.32-042stab108.8 #1 SMP Wed Jul 22 17:23:23 MSK 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:22.10 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: # modprobe fuse |
| 15:22.12 | edoardo | could it be a kernel-related issue? |
| 15:22.20 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: # ls -l /dev/f* |
| 15:22.30 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: and then try again |
| 15:22.46 | edoardo | modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:508 kmod_lookup_alias_from_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab108.8/modules.builtin.bin' |
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| 15:22.53 | edoardo | modprobe: FATAL: Module fuse not found. |
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| 15:23.10 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: then you're probably not running debian jessie |
| 15:23.30 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: since it uses a 3.16 kernel by default |
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| 15:23.47 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: even wheezy uses a 3.2 kernel... not even close to a 2.6.32 kernel |
| 15:24.24 | edoardo | root@vps11319:~# cat /etc/*-release |
| 15:24.24 | edoardo | PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" |
| 15:24.25 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: is this virtualized or something? |
| 15:24.40 | edoardo | i guess they fucked up something on the node |
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| 15:24.51 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: uname -a |
| 15:24.59 | edoardo | Linux vps11319 2.6.32-042stab108.8 #1 SMP Wed Jul 22 17:23:23 MSK 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:25.01 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: and ofc... lsb_release -a |
| 15:25.22 | edoardo | root@vps11319:~# lsb_release -a |
| 15:25.22 | edoardo | No LSB modules are available. |
| 15:25.22 | edoardo | Distributor ID:Debian |
| 15:25.22 | edoardo | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.2 (jessie) |
| 15:25.22 | edoardo | Release:8.2 |
| 15:25.22 | edoardo | Codename:jessie |
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| 15:25.33 | Ryssk_ | rip |
| 15:25.34 | edoardo | sorry for the flood |
| 15:25.39 | edoardo | anyway |
| 15:25.44 | edoardo | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.2 (jessie) |
| 15:26.13 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: probably need to apt-get install linux-image-amd64 and reboot into that kernel. |
| 15:26.40 | edoardo | does openvz even support that? |
| 15:26.58 | Shadow_7 | unless there's some reason you're using that kernel, at which point putting fuse into it is your non-debian issue. |
| 15:27.15 | edoardo | i'm just using the image they provided me |
| 15:27.29 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: they != debian |
| 15:27.29 | edoardo | i use vanilla debian on all my server and it works greatly |
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| 15:28.07 | Shadow_7 | at the point they dictate what kernel you run is a point they cross the line of having your best interests at heart |
| 15:28.10 | edoardo | ok, i should have 3.16 now |
| 15:28.29 | Shadow_7 | especial with current security trends |
| 15:28.42 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: so fuse should succeed then |
| 15:28.47 | edoardo | i'm on openvz |
| 15:28.49 | edoardo | "OpenVZ uses a single patched Linux kernel and therefore can run only Linux. All OpenVZ containers share the same architecture and kernel version. " |
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| 15:29.21 | edoardo | ...and i'm still running 2.6.32 after rebooting |
| 15:29.44 | Shadow_7 | you'll need to update the bootloader and default kernel selected |
| 15:30.06 | edoardo | I can't do it since OpenVZ manages everything |
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| 15:30.43 | edoardo | The node's kernel is 2.6 and every instance gets the same kernel |
| 15:31.12 | AndreasLutro | in debian 8/jessie, is there a preferred way to restart dhclient? I don't want to bring down the network interface and I don't *need* to renew the lease |
| 15:31.29 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: so basically it is virtualized then. hence your troubles |
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| 15:32.27 | edoardo | OpenVZ - never again |
| 15:33.01 | hiya | edoardo, go with a KVM |
| 15:33.02 | hiya | :) |
| 15:33.08 | edoardo | how about Xen? |
| 15:33.28 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: same issues with firmwares though. ddwrt is a 2.6.32-ish kernel. tomato is like 2.6.22. |
| 15:33.53 | edoardo | Heh |
| 15:34.05 | edoardo | I have an allwinner board that can only run 3.14 |
| 15:34.20 | edoardo | Since the manufacturer released the SoC and an Android image with that kernel |
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| 15:35.22 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: you running debian armel / armhf then? |
| 15:35.40 | edoardo | Yep, and I'm really happy with it |
| 15:35.42 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: there's a debian-arm channel on oftc |
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| 15:35.58 | folivora | Can some explain me what I am doing wrong / what I should change os I could compile dcadec ( https://launchpadlibrarian.net/206411822/dcadec_0.1%7Egit-396e75652%7Evivid.tar.xz ) error: http://pastie.org/10655325 |
| 15:36.01 | Shadow_7 | I ran debian armel on my pi B for a while. Slow, but reliable |
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| 15:36.06 | folivora | os = so |
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| 15:36.30 | edoardo | This H3 board is pretty powerful |
| 15:36.40 | edoardo | 1.2Ghz quad core, and it costs about 15$ |
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| 15:37.07 | edoardo | Pity sunxi doesn't support it yet |
| 15:37.13 | Shadow_7 | folivora: apt-get source libdca-utils |
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| 15:37.45 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: the B at the time had fbturbo (formerly sunxi) for it's video driver. |
| 15:37.52 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: via github sources |
| 15:37.55 | folivora | Shadow_7: I am still hitting the same error ... |
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| 15:38.07 | Shadow_7 | folivora: what is the error? |
| 15:38.18 | Shadow_7 | folivora: apt-file can help locate -dev things not yet installed |
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| 15:38.51 | Shadow_7 | folivora: otherwise apt-get install build-essential devscripts kernel-package ... tends to grab most things needed to compile stuff. |
| 15:39.18 | folivora | Shadow_7: look my pastie link. |
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| 15:40.51 | Ryssk_ | So, anyone good with mdadm? :) |
| 15:40.54 | folivora | I kinda can't undestand how to compile dcadec ... |
| 15:41.16 | folivora | Ryssk_: what is the question, I am kinda familiar with mdadm |
| 15:41.30 | Shadow_7 | folivora: have you tried the fakeroot route? fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 15:41.30 | Ryssk_ | Wait, let me copy pasta my quest.. |
| 15:41.44 | Ryssk_ | Hi! I got some small issue, regarding mdadm, i just recently moved from a Xpenology to a Debian Gnome. The Arrays are coming up nice and everything, but when i do Fdisk -l it doesnt show the correct amount of disks |
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| 15:42.09 | Ryssk_ | in parted, i also see all 4 raid disks, but as i mentioned, in Fdisk -l folivora they wont show up :S |
| 15:42.18 | Ryssk_ | and mdadm seems to be working great |
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| 15:42.33 | edoardo | this board has hardware acceleration only with android |
| 15:42.48 | Ryssk_ | And also under GUI in Disks it also shows all 4 disks :S |
| 15:42.53 | edoardo | you can get it to work on debian - but it's pretty buggy |
| 15:43.23 | edoardo | that's why i only use it headless as part of a cluster i made |
| 15:43.33 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: such is the case with most things without a large community like raspberry pi or beaglebone |
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| 15:44.04 | folivora | Shadow_7: that worked |
| 15:44.06 | Shadow_7 | ofc my pi B only runs X in 16 bit color |
| 15:44.10 | edoardo | the Allwinner A10/A20 is getting a lot of love ultimately, though |
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| 15:44.37 | edoardo | http://www.armbian.com/download/ |
| 15:44.39 | Shadow_7 | folivora: does that solve your issue? |
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| 15:45.04 | edoardo | It's full of pretty cheap boards and the soc is unbrickable and really flexible |
| 15:45.26 | folivora | Shadow_7: lets see, I will try to install new .deb files |
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| 15:46.21 | Shadow_7 | I think the buildpackage route tries to build all the other stuff. -dev -doc ... ... |
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| 15:48.31 | teraflops | edoardo: yeah |
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| 15:49.15 | Shadow_7 | a lot of cheap boards need a lot of extras at which point you could have just gotten a laptop. hp stream 11's at $200, actually $180 now I think |
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| 15:49.57 | Shadow_7 | kind of hard to do the sdb route and come out with storage, lcd, keyboard, mouse, webcam, ... for < $200 |
| 15:50.59 | edoardo | H3 Board (15â¬), Keyboard (7â¬), Screen (40â¬), Mouse (9â¬), Webcam (9â¬), External HDD (40â¬) |
| 15:51.50 | Shadow_7 | built in UPS and ac wireless too though |
| 15:51.57 | teraflops | Shadow_7: ewww you just need a sdcard and a monitor, all the other stuff youre talking about is about your liking ;) |
| 15:52.23 | Shadow_7 | more about something useful in the middle of a corn field |
| 15:52.43 | teraflops | edoardo: several bananapi here, good stuff |
| 15:52.46 | edoardo | My cluster just need a couple of 4gb sdcards and a switch :) |
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| 15:53.07 | Shadow_7 | plus something someone else might want from you used so it's not just wasted cash on low specs |
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| 15:53.53 | teraflops | Shadow_7: I use them as headless servers for serving web, multimedia, etc not that they are useless |
| 15:54.16 | edoardo | I like every board but the raspberry |
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| 15:54.26 | teraflops | edoardo: same here ;) |
| 15:54.49 | edoardo | I have a 1gen raspberry - slow and useless |
| 15:55.00 | edoardo | Now they even sold themselves to microsoft |
| 15:55.12 | teraflops | odroid c1 is cheap and good too |
| 15:55.27 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: not entirely useless. Good for zeroing out drives / sticks while you take your useful stuff elsewhere |
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| 15:55.51 | teraflops | bpi b+ 1st gen runs kodi pretty well |
| 15:55.59 | teraflops | 1080p |
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| 15:59.03 | Shadow_7 | I kind of want the camera module to make a security camera out of my older pi |
| 15:59.11 | teraflops | edoardo: also gbit ehernet on the rpi2 shares the bus with the usb so no gbit at all :P |
| 15:59.19 | folivora | Shadow_7: thank you for the help. Problem solved :) |
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| 15:59.32 | Ryssk_ | Shadow_7: you seem to know a lil bit, how can i mount several disks? right now i can only mount 1 at a time under /mnt/ |
| 15:59.33 | Shadow_7 | getting too lazy to stand up out of chair and actually look out the window |
| 15:59.57 | teraflops | Shadow_7: with those arm boards fun is granted |
| 16:00.00 | Shadow_7 | Ryssk_: create sub directories and mount each to it's own directory |
| 16:00.17 | edoardo | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-PC-ubuntu-linux-and-android-mini-PC-Beyond-and-Compatible-with-Raspberry-Pi-2/1553371_32448079125.html |
| 16:00.35 | Shadow_7 | Ryssk_: mkdir /mnt/disk1partition1 && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk1partition1 |
| 16:00.46 | edoardo | This |
| 16:01.02 | edoardo | This board is so cheap it's amazing it even works |
| 16:01.12 | edoardo | But it works amazingly well |
| 16:01.21 | Shadow_7 | Just need the $150 proprietary power supply... j/k |
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| 16:01.45 | edoardo | Heh |
| 16:01.49 | Ryssk_ | thx! |
| 16:02.03 | edoardo | I just soldered a two wires since the connector is non standard |
| 16:02.09 | teraflops | Shadow_7: lol |
| 16:02.42 | edoardo | Why can't i talk proper english today... :\ |
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| 16:02.58 | Shadow_7 | I'm kind of holding out for the quad core 2GHz+ with 4GB RAM and 64 bit models. |
| 16:03.40 | edoardo | http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/clq/processora/A80.html |
| 16:03.46 | teraflops | Shadow_7: i switched to arm since they use 5v chargers and im fanless fan |
| 16:03.47 | edoardo | I'm waiting for this to become cheap |
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| 16:04.19 | Shadow_7 | From a certain pov the pi 2 specs about the same as my laptop |
| 16:04.52 | teraflops | I do not need a power plant anymore for feeding my 24/7 xeons |
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| 16:05.22 | Shadow_7 | Once I got my pi I stopped using my amd x2 from '07 |
| 16:05.29 | Shadow_7 | it got sooo cold in my room |
| 16:05.32 | teraflops | heh |
| 16:05.56 | teraflops | Shadow_7: and to be fair the arm thingies do the same job |
| 16:06.23 | edoardo | I once tried to overclock the H3 to 1.6ghz |
| 16:06.25 | Shadow_7 | as long as you don't need to step out of linux and into the land of apple / microsoft |
| 16:06.28 | teraflops | well, they do not transcode at the same speed as xeons :P |
| 16:06.42 | edoardo | Well, the benchmarks were the same as when it was not overclocked |
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| 16:06.57 | edoardo | But i recall my feets were very warm |
| 16:07.00 | teraflops | Shadow_7: nah reverse proxy gere serving a bunch of web stuff so it's ok |
| 16:07.03 | teraflops | here* |
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| 16:10.08 | Shadow_7 | I recall the cat be cuddled up near it sleeping. Now she's annoying rubbing my legs every 30 seconds. |
| 16:10.52 | teraflops | Shadow_7: my cat loves the router since it gets warm |
| 16:11.36 | head8debian | Oh, my CPU fan has a cat hairball stuck in it... |
| 16:11.36 | head8debian | :p |
| 16:11.44 | teraflops | heh |
| 16:12.12 | head8debian | Its called a heat loop, it clogs the CPU fan so its warmer and the cat sticks around it more to get more hair in it. |
| 16:12.25 | head8debian | :p |
| 16:12.40 | head8debian | Ok,ok i will stop. ;) |
| 16:13.16 | head8debian | My room would stay nice and warm when i was using my 2 C2D CPU's at their max all the time. |
| 16:13.39 | edoardo | My cat loves sleeping in front of the pellet stove |
| 16:13.58 | edoardo | Where you usually get skin burns after a couple of minutes |
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| 16:36.24 | Ryssk_ | Shadow_7: but when i mount em, how can i make them mount automaticly when restarting computer? |
| 16:36.26 | kersey788 | what's a good way to see exactly how many bytes there are in a directory? |
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| 16:39.24 | debian8xfce | hello |
| 16:39.32 | debian8xfce | I have a problem with wi-fi scan |
| 16:39.42 | debian8xfce | I've just installed wicd and connman |
| 16:39.55 | debian8xfce | none of them see wi-fi nets |
| 16:40.21 | mtn | debian8xfce: what network card? |
| 16:40.32 | debian8xfce | Error /net/connman/technology/wifi: Method "Scan" with signature "" on interface "net.connman.Technology" doesn't exist |
| 16:40.41 | debian8xfce | mtn: atheros |
| 16:40.54 | mtn | debian8xfce: did you try network manager first? |
| 16:41.04 | debian8xfce | I don't have one |
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| 16:41.25 | mtn | debian8xfce: why not? it would be installed by default with xfce |
| 16:41.49 | debian8xfce | maybe I just didn't find it |
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| 16:43.09 | debian8xfce | mtn: do you by chance know how to run it from cli? |
| 16:43.11 | mtn | kersey788: probably du |
| 16:43.58 | mtn | debian8xfce: in the terminal: nm and then hit tab once or twice. might show you the command |
| 16:44.28 | debian8xfce | nm, nmbd, nmblookup |
| 16:44.56 | mtn | debian8xfce: you aren't using a desktop environment? you are stuck with the command line? |
| 16:45.04 | debian8xfce | I use xfce |
| 16:45.16 | debian8xfce | I just can't find network manager anywhere |
| 16:45.35 | mtn | debian8xfce: then why use the terminal? make sure network manager is installed, it should show on the panel |
| 16:45.52 | mtn | debian8xfce: do you know how to use synaptic? |
| 16:46.13 | debian8xfce | yes |
| 16:46.20 | debian8xfce | I've just tweaked panel already |
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| 16:46.33 | mtn | debian8xfce: then you can check if network manager is installed |
| 16:46.34 | debian8xfce | and seems like I removed it from the panel, but at least now I know where to look for |
| 16:47.02 | mtn | tweaked=broke :) |
| 16:47.22 | debian8xfce | search for 'nm' there or somewhat else? |
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| 16:48.06 | mtn | debian8xfce: uh, network manager? |
| 16:48.12 | debian8xfce | yeah, found it |
| 16:48.17 | debian8xfce | it's not installed |
| 16:48.29 | debian8xfce | weird, I didn't uncheck anything at install |
| 16:48.51 | mtn | debian8xfce: how did you install xfce? |
| 16:48.51 | debian8xfce | maybe the system decided that 8gb ssd is too little and tried not to install much... |
| 16:48.56 | dontknow | debian8xfce, you need to install network-manager-gnome |
| 16:49.03 | debian8xfce | right with the debian |
| 16:49.12 | debian8xfce | dontknow: but I use xfce |
| 16:49.31 | dontknow | debian8xfce, yes. but you have to install that |
| 16:49.41 | dontknow | debian8xfce, i also use networkmanager |
| 16:50.13 | debian8xfce | mtn: could you confirm, please? |
| 16:50.33 | kersey788 | mtn: when I copy a directory using rsync and check their size with du -sbh their size differ |
| 16:50.37 | mtn | debian8xfce: what? to install the gnome version? yes, that would be a good idea |
| 16:50.52 | mtn | kersey788: sorry, I don't use rsync, so don't know. |
| 16:51.01 | kersey788 | mtn: what do you use? |
| 16:51.02 | debian8xfce | okay, I'm a total newb, it just seems a bit wrong to install gnome/kde stuff for other de, but ok |
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| 16:51.26 | mtn | kersey788: copy and paste to external drive |
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| 16:51.33 | debian8xfce | dontknow: network-manager + network-manager-gnome or just the latter? |
| 16:51.37 | mtn | debian8xfce: xfce is based on gnome |
| 16:51.52 | debian8xfce | I didn't know |
| 16:52.03 | dontknow | debian8xfce, network-manager-gnome also installs network-manager |
| 16:52.21 | dontknow | debian8xfce, have you made minimal install? |
| 16:52.50 | debian8xfce | 'failed to apply the changes, first you need to fix the packages' errors' |
| 16:52.53 | debian8xfce | wtf is that |
| 16:53.24 | debian8xfce | dontknow: from an official iso usb installer |
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| 16:54.23 | dontknow | debian8xfce, from live cd? |
| 16:54.27 | dontknow | live xfce |
| 16:54.32 | debian8xfce | no, not live |
| 16:54.32 | mtn | debian8xfce: in synaptic, go to Edit. Fix broken packages |
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| 16:55.42 | debian8xfce | mtn: this does nothing |
| 16:55.55 | mtn | debian8xfce: what does "nothing" mean? |
| 16:56.11 | debian8xfce | I click that menuitem and menu just closes and nothing happens |
| 16:56.20 | debian8xfce | apply button is still grayed out |
| 16:56.31 | mtn | debian8xfce: maybe it fixed it? hit refresh, try installing the packages again. |
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| 16:58.56 | debian8xfce | 'unable to get repo's indexes' |
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| 16:59.53 | dontknow | debian8xfce, do you use the same computer for chat? |
| 16:59.59 | dontknow | now |
| 17:00.06 | debian8xfce | yes |
| 17:00.11 | MeanEYE | Small note folks. Kernel 4.3.0 which comes in Debian testing is causing file system corruption. |
| 17:00.20 | debian8xfce | I added a repo once |
| 17:00.30 | MeanEYE | Shadow_7, it wasn't SSD failure. |
| 17:00.32 | debian8xfce | to install some fresh wine |
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| 17:00.50 | mtn | debian8xfce: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 17:01.13 | dontknow | debian8xfce, did you install it from sid mirror? |
| 17:02.07 | dontknow | or a.k.a testing |
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| 17:02.24 | debian8xfce | sorry, seems like this issue requires a few hours and I have to ride home now |
| 17:02.32 | debian8xfce | becuase I forgot wher I changed repo |
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| 17:02.51 | debian8xfce | mirror was called jessie-backports |
| 17:03.01 | debian8xfce | I believe it's something 'official' |
| 17:03.27 | dontknow | backports is fine |
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| 17:06.07 | invitado | hello somebody could help me about an issue installing debian from usb flash drive?? |
| 17:06.18 | invitado | it tells me im missing this files RTL_NIC/RTL8168e-3.fw. |
| 17:06.30 | invitado | but i cant get any information looking around |
| 17:06.38 | invitado | thanks before all |
| 17:07.13 | dontknow | invitado, you can ignore it |
| 17:07.40 | invitado | the problem is when i click no it keep me in this window |
| 17:07.54 | invitado | when it ask me for some firmware for install |
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| 17:08.18 | dontknow | invitado, it shouldn't have kept |
| 17:08.28 | invitado | it stands detecting network hardware |
| 17:08.38 | invitado | and backs to the other window |
| 17:08.42 | invitado | -.- |
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| 17:11.27 | dontknow | invitado, what other window |
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| 17:13.04 | invitado | to the one that it ask for some firmware addin |
| 17:13.14 | invitado | im like t.t |
| 17:13.34 | somiaj | invitado: if you read the install guide it will tell you how to get the firmware for your card during the install. Or you can just use the firmware images. |
| 17:13.47 | somiaj | invitado: you could also just ignore it, but then your network card won't work. |
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| 17:14.10 | invitado | i tried now plugging wire directly and now it did recognised it |
| 17:14.21 | invitado | sry for my english |
| 17:14.23 | invitado | e.e |
| 17:14.24 | somiaj | invitado: the firmware is non-free so debian doesn't provide it by default, but will support that card if you choose to use the non-free firmware or non-free installer |
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| 17:15.03 | invitado | i had the same problem another time installing in my oficine and somebody told me to install from another external usb and it worked |
| 17:15.08 | invitado | now i cant find it |
| 17:15.20 | somiaj | !tell invitado about firmware images |
| 17:15.26 | somiaj | that is a link to the non-free firmware installer |
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| 17:16.42 | dontknow | somiaj, realtek cards works without non-free firmware. you don't have to install |
| 17:16.57 | dontknow | ethernet cards |
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| 17:17.21 | somiaj | most don't, all my wifi realtek cards did not work without firmware |
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| 17:23.46 | heap_ | hell |
| 17:23.47 | heap_ | o |
| 17:23.51 | Nik05 | hi |
| 17:23.52 | heap_ | any idea? |
| 17:23.56 | heap_ | OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/kernel/config/target' |
| 17:24.13 | heap_ | when i execute targetcli |
| 17:24.33 | heap_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:24.40 | andirc8089- | I want to ask a question: can I install |
| 17:25.23 | andirc8089- | ... g++ 5.2 as a side compiler on debian jessiee? |
| 17:25.39 | heap_ | i need to reboot probably. |
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| 17:25.40 | andirc8089- | jessie* |
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| 17:26.17 | andirc8089- | I want to train some new c++ features |
| 17:26.37 | somiaj | andirc8089-: not directly, as the gcc 5 packages are not made for jessie |
| 17:26.55 | somiaj | andirc8089-: if all you want to do is play around, you could do your compiling in a stretch chroot |
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| 17:29.27 | somiaj | andirc8089-: you could also use a vm. |
| 17:29.41 | somiaj | andirc8089-: (or you could try to compile gcc5 for jessie yourself, which I think will be the hardest of the options) |
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| 17:34.41 | wojtek | Hi guys |
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| 17:38.15 | HanHeld | Hi. My server has a range of IPs and one interface. I want to set it so that traffic destined for a port on one address (first.example.net:80) goes to one IP, traffic on the same port but a different domain (second.example.net:80) goes to a different IP. I've tried finding ip aliasing and iptable tutorials but I am not figuring out what I need to do or read. Any pointers please? |
| 17:39.03 | HanHeld | I wasn't clear, sorry -I meant that they'd go to different programs on the same machine; first.example.net:80 would go to one program, second.example.net:80 would go to another program |
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| 17:40.42 | andirc8089- | somiaj: thanks |
| 17:40.46 | Logg | what are the two programs? |
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| 17:41.09 | HanHeld | opensim and proxmox; both want port 8006 |
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| 17:41.53 | somiaj | HanHeld: are you running debian or proxmox? |
| 17:42.17 | HanHeld | somiaj I'm trying to install proxmox on top of debian jessie/64 |
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| 17:45.03 | somiaj | !proxmox |
| 17:45.03 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 17:45.24 | Logg | see if you can change the port for one of them |
| 17:45.59 | HanHeld | I'm looking at this: http://serverfault.com/questions/671643/multiple-ip-addresses-on-host-and-one-on-kvm and seeing if I can side-step installing proxmox and do everything on bridged qemu instances |
| 17:46.07 | HanHeld | Thanks for y'alls help :) |
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| 17:48.11 | poffs | issue: I have a remote filesystem mounted with fuse.sshfs. When transmission creates a directory to download a torrent, the directory is NOT owned by transmission-daemon, it is owned by my normal user account "user". The permissions are set to 644 which means that transmission daemon cannot write to the directory - only "user" and "root" can write to it. How can I fix this? |
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| 17:48.50 | b2c | I was trying to setup dovecot+pos in debian 8.... It's not recieving mail...or I can't connect any moa.... anyone here help me troubleshoot? |
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| 17:54.46 | Digitalcrypto | Well I must confess. Coming to Debian isn't "easy" |
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| 17:55.06 | Digitalcrypto | I don't think the installation could be more convoluted |
| 17:55.36 | Digitalcrypto | Especially the software RAID installation plus reinstall grub because it didn't work |
| 17:55.49 | Logg | 2016: year of the linux desktop. :^) |
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| 17:56.04 | Digitalcrypto | I'd be happy to get a shell at this point |
| 17:56.10 | b2c | I was trying to setup dovecot+pos in debian 8.... It's not recieving mail...or I can't connect any moa.... anyone here help me troubleshoot? |
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| 17:56.52 | Logg | I tried for a really long time to set up an email server. Then I learned that comcast was blocking the ports to avoid spam from misconfigured email servers. |
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| 17:57.14 | Digitalcrypto | yeah comcast is terrible. |
| 17:57.58 | Digitalcrypto | Why is there not a rescue option on the desktop livecds? |
| 17:58.13 | Digitalcrypto | Was this intentional or just an oversight? |
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| 17:59.47 | Digitalcrypto | netinstall is so painful |
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| 18:00.12 | poffs | how do I hard dismount filesystems at system shutdown? I have two remote filesystems that I have mounted (one in fstab, one manually). It takes 4 minutes for my system to shut down because the system tries to connect to these remote filesystems after networking has been shut down in order to dismount them. I just want the system to ignore them and shut down. |
| 18:00.24 | Digitalcrypto | @poffs....power switch? |
| 18:00.47 | Logg | alias shutdown='dismount && shutdown'+ |
| 18:00.48 | Logg | ? |
| 18:01.02 | Digitalcrypto | he said ignore them |
| 18:01.06 | Digitalcrypto | :P |
| 18:01.14 | poffs | ignore or force dismount them. |
| 18:01.16 | Logg | :P |
| 18:01.30 | poffs | hmm... that's an interesting thing to consider, Logg |
| 18:02.16 | Digitalcrypto | is there a way to put the round robin debian apt mirror redirector in the installation? |
| 18:02.23 | Digitalcrypto | this is nuts |
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| 18:06.49 | Digitalcrypto | We may have to fail back to ubuntu....hate that |
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| 18:08.18 | Logg | what's actually the matter, digitalcrypto? |
| 18:08.23 | Logg | why don't you have a shell? |
| 18:08.52 | Logg | software raid screwed up..? |
| 18:08.53 | Digitalcrypto | I had fake RAID SSDs |
| 18:08.56 | Digitalcrypto | yeah |
| 18:09.03 | Digitalcrypto | I can't get debian to install correctly |
| 18:09.16 | Digitalcrypto | I was using a cinnamon livecd |
| 18:09.35 | Digitalcrypto | but once I found the FM I realized there was no "rescue" option on any of the livecds |
| 18:09.52 | Digitalcrypto | so I had to get the netinstall and start building off that |
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| 18:09.57 | Logg | what does the fake RAID do? |
| 18:10.06 | Ryssk_ | you mean software raid? |
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| 18:10.18 | Ryssk_ | from the bios? or from the OS itself? |
| 18:10.26 | Digitalcrypto | fake RAID is the onboard RAID stuff of most motherboards....as opposed to a _real_ RAID card like LSI |
| 18:11.15 | Digitalcrypto | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.26 | Digitalcrypto | but it's using the onboard raid controller |
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| 18:13.40 | Digitalcrypto | you guys aren't planning on doing any of that spyware stuff to the distro are you? |
| 18:13.56 | Digitalcrypto | popcon is one thing...but amazon search is beyond ridiculous |
| 18:14.23 | Logg | I think ubuntu stopped doing that |
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| 18:15.02 | Digitalcrypto | no |
| 18:15.04 | Digitalcrypto | they didn't |
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| 18:15.29 | Logg | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2840401/ubuntus-unity-8-desktop-removes-the-amazon-search-spyware.html |
| 18:15.32 | Logg | I think so? |
| 18:16.16 | Digitalcrypto | I looked at 15.10 and it was still in there if memory serves |
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| 18:17.01 | Digitalcrypto | boss said get off ubuntu. can't argue that. |
| 18:17.07 | Logg | I dunno. xubuntu definitely doesn't have it. |
| 18:17.19 | Digitalcrypto | right |
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| 18:18.59 | Digitalcrypto | we deal in finance. can't afford to take risks with developers like that. |
| 18:19.18 | Digitalcrypto | I mean what's next? they are downloading accounts? |
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| 18:19.25 | Digitalcrypto | Microsoft went that route |
| 18:19.37 | Logg | well. debian is definitely a better fit for a business. |
| 18:19.50 | Digitalcrypto | _if_ I could get it installed |
| 18:19.51 | Digitalcrypto | :P |
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| 18:20.18 | Digitalcrypto | Im trying to perform the rescue to reinstall grub per the manual |
| 18:20.28 | Digitalcrypto | I don't get any /dev/md controllers |
| 18:20.30 | Digitalcrypto | so i dunno |
| 18:20.53 | Digitalcrypto | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
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| 18:22.01 | Digitalcrypto | well i am out of time |
| 18:22.15 | Digitalcrypto | 3 days trying to get debian installed. it's not worth the headache |
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| 18:23.53 | Logg | the wiki says /dev/dm if that wasn't a typo |
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| 18:25.01 | Logg | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en |
| 18:25.08 | Logg | "type rescue at boot: prompt" |
| 18:25.12 | Digitalcrypto | it should say /dev/md but the raid doesn't even assemble so it's kinda worthless |
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| 18:26.06 | Digitalcrypto | I mean I could see if it were a small workaround but I've got a lot of machines to move by tomorrow and I just can't be bothered with all this |
| 18:26.07 | Logg | if you're a business, maybe invest in a raid card. would be better than paying you x amount of dollars to figure out how to make fake raid work |
| 18:26.34 | Digitalcrypto | I'll ignore the sarcasm. But thanks |
| 18:26.47 | Logg | no sarcasm, good luck. |
| 18:26.59 | BarnacleBob | honestly why even use the fake raid. just use software raid in the installer |
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| 18:27.29 | Digitalcrypto | do you have a document on it? |
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| 18:27.58 | Shadow_7 | raid controllers are evil from what I hear |
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| 18:28.22 | BarnacleBob | Digitalcrypto, a cursory google search got me https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2013/10/04/how-to-configure-software-raid1-during-installation-process/ |
| 18:28.57 | Digitalcrypto | notices it's not a debian sponsored document |
| 18:28.59 | Digitalcrypto | thanks |
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| 18:29.41 | BarnacleBob | i'm sure if you searched the debian manuals you would find how to do raid during the install but i'm not going to do that for you |
| 18:30.00 | BarnacleBob | but in any situation i've seen, software raid is always superior to using fake raid on a motherboard |
| 18:30.16 | BarnacleBob | since they usually require a driver to work at all |
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| 18:31.05 | Shadow_7 | Or buy a pre-built NAS already setup. But BSD based. Still cheaper than most folks salaries * 3 days |
| 18:31.06 | Digitalcrypto | I appreciate the help but not the sarcasm. You assume that I am a complete newb to linux. I assure you I am not. |
| 18:31.28 | Digitalcrypto | We already have a NAS |
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| 18:33.14 | Digitalcrypto | You have to remember I am coming from Ubuntu where most of this stuff is done for you and done completely wrong in the first place. |
| 18:34.26 | Shadow_7 | it's not all wrong. They do manage to get pulse audio mostly right |
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| 18:34.52 | Shadow_7 | and the scopes stuff can be turned off (mega annoying that it's on by default) |
| 18:35.50 | Shadow_7 | Then again I haven't run ubuntu since 2012. The bloat and performance loss was too notice-able. |
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| 18:37.04 | Digitalcrypto | ty again Bob...running through that process now. |
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| 18:44.29 | poffs | is there a way to mount an fuse.sshfs in fstab where all files have the attributes 777? |
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| 18:44.59 | Shadow_7 | poffs: umask=0000 ? |
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| 18:46.00 | Digitalcrypto | Did anyone get the Skylake processor? |
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| 18:47.04 | poffs | Shadow_7, I love you. |
| 18:47.55 | Digitalcrypto | please disregard the comment i made earlier about the mirror redirector. PEBKAC |
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| 18:52.28 | Miesco | Hi, is it safe to store gpg passwords on github? (/usr/bin/pass's ~/.password-store/) |
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| 18:53.59 | modem | Hi. On debian 8 jessie up2date with "3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3" I am unable to load "fuse" (even after depmod -a) because of a kernel symbol missing (sysfs_create_mount_point). Is this a known problem ? Thanks you :) |
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| 18:57.32 | Shadow_7 | modem: ckt20 seems to be the more recent kernel |
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| 18:58.52 | Shadow_7 | although that issue would imply that the fuse is not off that kernel, but pulled from another. |
| 18:59.01 | Shadow_7 | s/off/of/ |
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| 19:04.06 | modem | Shadow_7, where do you see a ckt20 ? apt-get upgrade even from a different mirror won't offers me anything |
| 19:04.36 | Shadow_7 | modem: dpkg -l | grep -i linux-image |
| 19:05.08 | Shadow_7 | although I initially did a ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image* |
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| 19:05.43 | Shadow_7 | your fuse was probably built against linux-headers that don't match your kernel |
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| 19:07.29 | Shadow_7 | modem: # modinfo fuse |
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| 19:09.52 | DoctorD90 | Logg, Amun_Ra nothing....debian installer overrite my gpt with mbr -.- grrrr |
| 19:10.53 | Logg | grrrr |
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| 19:11.35 | DoctorD90 | im going to install with debootstrap -.- |
| 19:11.37 | DoctorD90 | uff |
| 19:11.49 | DoctorD90 | i dont have skill high enough I think -.- |
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| 19:12.06 | Digitalcrypto | heh |
| 19:12.08 | Shadow_7 | the only skill with debootstrap is being able to chroot |
| 19:12.36 | Shadow_7 | and not forgetting to set a password |
| 19:12.51 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: seems like you haven't chosen advanced install |
| 19:13.06 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, i mean, install an entire system, like with debian cd installer, on my laptotp :P |
| 19:13.18 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, i think I have done it :P |
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| 19:13.46 | peltydl0y | isn't deboostrap for creating embedded systems images and the sort? |
| 19:14.16 | DoctorD90 | images...or system inside a system....i havent never used to INSTALL a system :P |
| 19:14.17 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: oh |
| 19:14.43 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: dpkg --get-selections && dpkg --set-selections |
| 19:15.41 | Shadow_7 | debootstrap is meant to be used to create chroots. But apt-get install linux-image-amd64 and it's bootable |
| 19:16.08 | DoctorD90 | MAYBE.....and i repaet my self MAYBE....i added at LVM, the nuke-password :P |
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| 19:16.44 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, as I said, i dont think I have skill to do that. Im still "developing" code to create a valid uefi-compliant ISO image from zero :) |
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| 19:17.47 | peltydl0y | can you use deboostrap to make a really minimal image with only the base packages and the necesssities of what you need the image to do? |
| 19:18.10 | Shadow_7 | peltydl0y: yes... it's how I do almost all of my installs these days |
| 19:18.19 | DoctorD90 | sure :P |
| 19:18.19 | Digitalcrypto | you can do whatever you like |
| 19:18.27 | DoctorD90 | debootstrap is great :D |
| 19:18.40 | Shadow_7 | you save so much bandwidth this way. as you only need a running linux and the debootstrap.deb which is a fraction of the netinstall.iso image |
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| 19:19.06 | Digitalcrypto | I'll be using it after this cutover. |
| 19:19.09 | DoctorD90 | and im sure tht if I learn it well, and some other "tips" i may learn to fstab and other to accomplish my target...but atm...i know only deploy live image xD |
| 19:19.17 | peltydl0y | is it possible to get debian below 500MB installed? |
| 19:19.20 | Digitalcrypto | soft raid installation failed also |
| 19:19.31 | Shadow_7 | my debootstrap installs are 200MB - 300MB at first |
| 19:19.33 | Digitalcrypto | so I am installing on a single drive now. mess with it later |
| 19:19.40 | DoctorD90 | peltydl0y, sure...but very minimal :P at least only headless I think |
| 19:19.42 | Shadow_7 | booted and logged in |
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| 19:19.45 | Logg | good idea |
| 19:20.05 | Shadow_7 | ofc, once you install X, 3D libs, and a web browser you're at 1GB or more |
| 19:20.20 | DoctorD90 | what do you think: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/apds03.html.en |
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| 19:21.02 | DoctorD90 | oo...but then i dont know how o setup fstab -.- ....***** |
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| 19:21.21 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: cp /etc/fstab /mnt/chroot/etc/fstab |
| 19:21.27 | Shadow_7 | and change a few things |
| 19:22.05 | Shadow_7 | and you don't "need" to setup fstab. But it'll mount read-only first boot if you don't |
| 19:22.14 | Shadow_7 | so... mount -o remount,rw / |
| 19:23.31 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, do not gives me reason to try and burn city xD ahahah |
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| 19:23.44 | DoctorD90 | (do it! do it!) |
| 19:23.58 | Shadow_7 | you need a reason? win10 |
| 19:24.08 | DoctorD90 | xD oh no xD my god no xD |
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| 19:24.54 | Logg | xD xD win10 |
| 19:24.56 | Digitalcrypto | Win10 isn't bad once you disable all the spyware |
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| 19:25.48 | Shadow_7 | as long as you have almost 10G of drive space available |
| 19:25.49 | DoctorD90 | win10 isnt bad once you disinstall it |
| 19:26.03 | Logg | ubuntu isn't that bad once you remove the amazon integration, but you won't use it either lol |
| 19:26.09 | peltydl0y | oh gahwhwh Windows 10..... |
| 19:26.14 | Digitalcrypto | I believe it was closer to 20GB once I got it installed |
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| 19:26.54 | Digitalcrypto | How else does one enjoy Grand Theft Auto? |
| 19:27.02 | Digitalcrypto | damn sure doesn't run on linux |
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| 19:27.22 | Shadow_7 | runs in vm with hardware passthrough |
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| 19:27.38 | Shadow_7 | and faster than it does natively in windows |
| 19:27.39 | Digitalcrypto | gotta build the machine twice then....no thanks |
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| 19:27.48 | DoctorD90 | vm or wine |
| 19:27.52 | Logg | faster than in windows? really? |
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| 19:28.13 | Digitalcrypto | KVM executes Win7 faster than bare metal....dunno about Win10 |
| 19:28.14 | Logg | if you're running windows in an virtual machine, is that possible |
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| 19:28.15 | Shadow_7 | Like it's even possible to run slower than windows directly |
| 19:28.17 | Digitalcrypto | haven't tried it yet |
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| 19:30.10 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, i let's copy fstab xD ...let's see what happend xD.... |
| 19:30.27 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, i go to re-install..let's check about advanced setup :D |
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| 19:32.32 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: if it's not accurate it wont boot. although you only need to change device and filesystem if they don't already match |
| 19:33.07 | Digitalcrypto | well jessie is installed on a single drive with no fault tolerance. I'll have to fork debian and do my own thing in house i guess |
| 19:33.30 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, im thinking to use instead of LVM, a mcuh normal way, with phisical devices, ecnrypted :P |
| 19:33.48 | DoctorD90 | instead of this LVM >.> it doesnt like me so much :P |
| 19:34.02 | DoctorD90 | and I would like to use nukekey too |
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| 19:36.21 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, once i debootstrapped, and "copied" the fstab, I have to move all directory to their owwn partition? rigth |
| 19:36.22 | DoctorD90 | ? |
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| 19:36.36 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: if you didn't already set them up there. |
| 19:37.15 | DoctorD90 | yet?? ...with debootstrap I know only to debootstrap in a fodler.......oh....rigth....mounting phase....you have rigth... |
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| 19:37.29 | DoctorD90 | in that case fstab should be created itself in theory :P |
| 19:37.46 | DoctorD90 | uhuh......im thinking about create it by my self with deboot strap Shadow_7 xD love you xD |
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| 19:38.17 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: rsync -aRXv ./* /mnt/partition/ |
| 19:38.49 | Shadow_7 | kind of how I do it if I'm doing USB flash mediums. Fewest writes for an install |
| 19:39.07 | Shadow_7 | to the USB medium anyway |
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| 19:39.33 | DoctorD90 | ...dinner...see you in some minutes back :P |
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| 19:42.09 | littlebit | hi poeple, i have setup and configured dnsmasq successfully with a range of x.x.x.100 - x.x.x.200 . usually when someone requests for an ip address it should be x.x.x.100 and so on, in my case I got x.x.x.179 how come? |
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| 19:58.56 | Logg | I'm using a custom date format with just plain text in it in cinnamon's panel. Is there a better way to add text? |
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| 19:59.44 | Logg | Seems to work, and I can't imagine that running a second calendar app is very resource intensive, but still |
| 20:00.12 | Shadow_7 | I just use xclock / oclock |
| 20:00.37 | littlebit | i have setup and configured dnsmasq successfully with a range of x.x.x.100 - x.x.x.200 . usually when someone requests for an ip address it should be x.x.x.100 and so on, in my case I got x.x.x.179 how come? |
| 20:00.41 | Shadow_7 | doesn't really provide calendar stuff but shows analog clock and digital clock with date |
| 20:02.02 | Logg | I guess I should explain better, I don't want any time keeping functionality |
| 20:02.22 | Logg | I hijacked the calendar applet because you can use a custom date format to add arbitrary text |
| 20:02.36 | Logg | I want to label the "uptime" applet as "uptime" since it looks like a clock and I don't think it can be configured |
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| 20:03.47 | Shadow_7 | wouldn't htop provide most of those stats? |
| 20:04.09 | Logg | yeah, but it's on cinnamon's panel |
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| 20:11.29 | well_laid_lawn | there should be a variety of panel apps for cinnamon around |
| 20:11.43 | well_laid_lawn | it's a gnome2 fork isn't it ? |
| 20:11.49 | Shadow_7 | or stop wasting pixels and use things like dwm |
| 20:12.03 | well_laid_lawn | tilers > * |
| 20:12.32 | Shadow_7 | I don't like tilers. cwm for me. But behaves much like dwm, without the tiling. |
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| 20:13.31 | Shadow_7 | It's amazing how much MORE fits on screen when not using 26px on a taskbar and 22px on each titlebar. |
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| 20:14.43 | Logg | like, 48 more pxels of stuff |
| 20:15.02 | Shadow_7 | or more if you have a couple xterms stacked vertically |
| 20:15.56 | DoctorD90 | ok..come back...now...let's begin :D ahahah |
| 20:16.17 | DoctorD90 | first of all...check about advanced in installer |
| 20:17.46 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, but to get advanced it is an option during installation pahse, or at grub menu? |
| 20:18.07 | Logg | I looked into it, and I don't think I see the appeal |
| 20:18.52 | Shadow_7 | cwm has all the wm functionality, but with hotkeys not buttons |
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| 20:19.29 | Shadow_7 | control + alt + X is useful for quickly dispatching popups |
| 20:19.40 | Logg | I think I like buttons. I use a lot of keyboard shortcuts, but the title bar I don't think belongs in the trash |
| 20:20.26 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: 1. |
| 20:20.54 | Shadow_7 | you can take borders off too so 3x1 Xephyr's of 640x1080 and Xdmx those to 640x3240 and have an 80x324 xterm with an 8px x 10px font |
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| 20:20.58 | atom10 | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pristineusa.android.speechtotext |
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| 20:21.20 | Shadow_7 | enough space to put even an ubuntu ps output on the screen in full |
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| 20:22.04 | Logg | think I'll just buy 4 4k monitors and call it a day |
| 20:22.34 | Shadow_7 | until you live in Texas and like your workspace to be below 100F |
| 20:23.22 | Logg | I'm idling at 22c right now, although it is kind of humid in here |
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| 20:25.30 | Logg | texas is fucked, along with everything else between 35 degrees north and south |
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| 20:48.22 | Baketball | hello. I am trying to install hp-lip and I get the following error: |
| 20:48.23 | Baketball | Running 'make' Please wait, this may take several minutes... Traceback (most recent call last): File "./install.py", line 241, in <module> text_install.start(language, auto, test_depends, test_unknown, assume_network, max_retries, enable, disable) File "/home/space/Downloads/hplip-3.15.2/installer/text_install.py", line 781, in start status, output = utils.run(cmd , core.passwordObj) File "/home/space/Downloads/hplip-3.15.2/base/u |
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| 20:51.00 | zykotick9 | Baketball: any reason you aren't using the hplip from debian repo(s)? historically, i've been able to backport it from unstable (see "/msg dpkg ssb" for details) if I needed a newer version... |
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| 20:51.26 | Baketball | zykotick9: how do I install from debian repos |
| 20:51.30 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, Amun_Ra in debian installer,im using manul steps..i think they are "advanced" mode....which partiotion I have to set up as boot? /boot, rogth? |
| 20:51.40 | Baketball | I am using rasbpain |
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| 20:51.58 | zykotick9 | Baketball: oh, best of luck. /my support ends... |
| 20:51.59 | Amun_Ra | raspbian boots differently |
| 20:52.13 | Amun_Ra | oh, wrong nick |
| 20:52.29 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: mhm |
| 20:52.36 | DoctorD90 | ...or may i format by gparted directly leaving it un modded.... |
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| 20:52.53 | DoctorD90 | let's try :D |
| 20:52.59 | peltydl0y | raspbian mostly differs in having a specialized linux kernel and requiring a fat32 partition for the pi firmware files |
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| 20:53.32 | DoctorD90 | go in #raspbian or #raspberrypi :) they know all about it :) |
| 20:53.35 | heap_ | hi |
| 20:53.46 | heap_ | im booting debian jessie but ...during the boot |
| 20:53.48 | heap_ | during the boot it got stuck -> waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 20:54.40 | peltydl0y | I used raspbian for my Wireless Access Point device I made with a Pi, it works, though at 18Mb/s peak sadly |
| 20:55.30 | heap_ | the sd card is gone? |
| 20:55.52 | peltydl0y | yeah, sd cards can crash the fs sometimes, it's best to just reimage and start over |
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| 20:57.46 | heap_ | jesus crist |
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| 20:57.54 | heap_ | one kernel compilation and card is gone? |
| 20:58.03 | heap_ | this is insane! |
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| 20:59.06 | peltydl0y | Everything on the Pi is interconnected power wise, I'm guessing a bad usb cable created some fluctuating power delivery when the CPU was working at full capacity, that probably damaged it |
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| 21:00.32 | Shadow_7 | the pi power bus isn't meant to drive anything more than a keyboard and mouse |
| 21:00.44 | Shadow_7 | you really should use a powered hub for things like wireless |
| 21:01.02 | Shadow_7 | plus wireless on usb tends to be woefully under powered in general |
| 21:02.25 | Shadow_7 | I've had sandisk 16GB cards die in < 4 hours |
| 21:02.44 | Shadow_7 | got to watch about 2 hours of youtube on it before it went south |
| 21:02.45 | Digitalcrypto | samsung > all |
| 21:03.01 | Zharf | samsung's a piece of shit company who I'll never give any money to ever again |
| 21:03.22 | Digitalcrypto | most electronics are rebranded samsung |
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| 21:03.26 | Digitalcrypto | doesn't matter |
| 21:03.48 | Zharf | just need to do my research |
| 21:05.56 | Digitalcrypto | just installed brand new samsung 850 EVOs with debian. it's close to sex but not quite |
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| 21:09.32 | tomreyn | maybe attach the power cable to yourself instead |
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| 21:11.13 | Richthoffen | i have problem with proprietary nvidia drivers |
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| 21:12.02 | Richthoffen | anyone knows not buggy proprietary nvidia ? i need it for x-plane |
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| 21:19.36 | blubee | hi guys i am trying to figure out what are the powersaving's and performance governor meaning |
| 21:19.45 | blubee | for example there are strings like there: LM_AC_CPU_GOVERNOR |
| 21:19.52 | blubee | from here: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling#CPU_frequency_scaling |
| 21:19.58 | blubee | where are those strings documented? |
| 21:21.01 | Amun_Ra | blubee: LM - laptop mode, BAT - battery, NOLM - obvious |
| 21:21.36 | blubee | Amun_Ra: thanks for the quick reply |
| 21:21.56 | Amun_Ra | yw |
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| 21:27.37 | DoctorD90 | ok...all partitions created..now let's see if manual allowes me to use them :D |
| 21:28.00 | DoctorD90 | or i will try with debootstrap :P |
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| 21:32.18 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: you could use built-in installed from the beginning⦠;> |
| 21:32.35 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, what do you mean :D |
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| 21:33.00 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: setup enc+lvm ootb |
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| 21:33.39 | DoctorD90 | but i dont like LVM XD |
| 21:33.47 | DoctorD90 | this is the stuff xD |
| 21:34.38 | DoctorD90 | nothing...i cant enter in my created yet luks drive :D |
| 21:34.40 | AivarasK | unpacking deb package (laarge one) should be hard on limited CPU or Disk resource? |
| 21:34.48 | DoctorD90 | it wants to format it self |
| 21:35.35 | Amun_Ra | AivarasK: if you need only small part of it unpacked you don't have to unpack it whole (vide mc) |
| 21:35.51 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: so what partition hierarchy did you choose? |
| 21:36.13 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: plain partitions and key file mounting? |
| 21:36.15 | AivarasK | Amun_Ra, I am installing gitlab. It takes ages to unpack. CPU load is really low. Can't check how the disk is doing. |
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| 21:37.57 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, at moment i was choosing boot, and other 5 partitions encrypted by pwd (atm) |
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| 21:38.22 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: you can't have boot encrypted |
| 21:38.33 | DoctorD90 | yes, boot is the only 1 not encrypted |
| 21:38.41 | Amun_Ra | ah, ok |
| 21:38.52 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: well there is a better way |
| 21:39.29 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: encrypt the first one with pwd (root part) and the following with key files stored somewhere (prolly /etc) |
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| 21:40.05 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: unless you like to enter passwords 5 times a boot of course |
| 21:40.07 | DoctorD90 | sure Amun_Ra, but for the moment they are all encrypted with same pwd xD |
| 21:40.47 | Amun_Ra | on the posivie side - you can always change password for a key file |
| 21:40.49 | DoctorD90 | nono, but for now, they are just with qwe pass xD |
| 21:40.54 | DoctorD90 | sure :D |
| 21:41.16 | Amun_Ra | been there done that (2 partitions but still) ;> |
| 21:41.17 | DoctorD90 | and now i have also the nuke pass :D |
| 21:41.42 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: nuke pass? |
| 21:42.25 | DoctorD90 | yes :D i have discovered it with kali :D |
| 21:42.42 | DoctorD90 | luks allowes 5/10 slot ( i dont remeber well) |
| 21:42.58 | Amun_Ra | 8 slots iirc |
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| 21:43.30 | DoctorD90 | nuke patch allowes to delete all header :D |
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| 21:43.48 | DoctorD90 | you may store 1 pwd that if entered headers will be deleted :D |
| 21:44.12 | Amun_Ra | uhm |
| 21:44.39 | Amun_Ra | ah, self destructing header |
| 21:44.53 | DoctorD90 | yes :D a great patch :D |
| 21:45.02 | Amun_Ra | there is also another way |
| 21:45.10 | Amun_Ra | create /boot on usb drive |
| 21:45.24 | Logg | what screen recording software is good? |
| 21:45.28 | DoctorD90 | even if i dont know how to run "all" del hedaer if i create different partitions xD |
| 21:45.28 | Logg | audio as well |
| 21:45.42 | DoctorD90 | Logg, for temrinal?? asciinema! |
| 21:45.46 | Amun_Ra | and make your own boot loader on mbr that will erase all the data; make usb, then hdd boot priority |
| 21:45.50 | Logg | for x |
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| 21:46.09 | DoctorD90 | ah uhm...nope XD |
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| 21:47.25 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: of course when you forgot to insert such usb drive you are out of luckk |
| 21:47.47 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, not gotcha at 100%... |
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| 21:49.07 | DoctorD90 | i may put mbr on usb, and boot on that one too |
| 21:49.27 | DoctorD90 | so it will boot my disk....but so, i need usb, and usb key may be stolen:P |
| 21:50.21 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: but those keys will be on encrypted partition |
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| 21:51.20 | DoctorD90 | yes |
| 21:51.49 | DoctorD90 | oh great!!! this laptop read SD as partioton at boot :D so I can put boot partitionon a sd :D great xD |
| 21:51.54 | DoctorD90 | im so excited :D |
| 21:52.03 | Amun_Ra | :> |
| 21:52.06 | DoctorD90 | just need to find out my old 1gb sd :S |
| 21:54.34 | DoctorD90 | this seems to be a very beautifull stuff ^_^ security *_* |
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| 21:58.52 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, did you mean that an usb may destroy all header? |
| 21:58.58 | DoctorD90 | instead of simply boot? |
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| 22:00.03 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: I was referring to another customization but it's a topic on a different days (I have to got in a few minutes) |
| 22:00.22 | Amun_Ra | day( |
| 22:00.36 | DoctorD90 | :) i hope you will be here tomorrow :D |
| 22:00.47 | DoctorD90 | now i try to to intall with debootstrap ^_^ |
| 22:00.56 | DoctorD90 | and boot on sd :D |
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| 22:03.01 | Zakkai | hi debian, thanks for all the excellent work you do. |
| 22:03.29 | michel_ | hi. i want to password protect a certain directory from my website. i created my .htaccess and edited my default conf in the apache2 folder. if i set AllowOveride to None the page is loaded but no passwort request. when i set it to All i get a password request but after login in i get a internal server error 500. How can i solve this |
| 22:03.39 | Zakkai | is this a good place to ask for help with installation? my installer is stuck at trying to detect and mount my usb w iso on it |
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| 22:06.39 | DoctorD90 | Zakkai, yes, is the rigth place |
| 22:06.47 | Zakkai | cool |
| 22:06.52 | DoctorD90 | michel_, :) better if you go in #apache :) |
| 22:07.06 | DoctorD90 | Zakkai, what is the issue? |
| 22:07.25 | michel_ | DoctorD90: thanks didnt know there is a channel of it |
| 22:07.44 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: I've got a Debian Jessie live USB i made in Debian Jessie using usbmultiboot |
| 22:07.56 | Zakkai | trying to use it to install onto a thinkpad t420 with a blank hard disk |
| 22:07.58 | DoctorD90 | michel_, ;) |
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| 22:08.06 | Harris | can I install chromium on jessie arm |
| 22:08.49 | Zakkai | i can run the live OS from the usb but if i try to install (using graphical or standard install), when it reaches the step called Detect and Mount CD ROM, it says it can't find a usable CD ROM |
| 22:09.00 | Zakkai | i'm assuming i have to point it at the USB drive specifically somehow |
| 22:09.04 | zinx | Harris: do you have an ARM machine with enough ram to run it? :P |
| 22:09.13 | Harris | zinx: yes |
| 22:09.23 | DoctorD90 | Zakkai, try to run install from live system :) |
| 22:10.00 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: how do i do that? it's just a command called install? i tried searching around (using gnome) for an installation program in the live system but didn't see one |
| 22:10.32 | DoctorD90 | Zakkai, im using lxde, and when i run live system , i get INSTALL DEBIAN JESSIE on the desktop :) |
| 22:11.17 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: interesting. i'll try that now and see if it's in the desktop directory and just not dispalying on gnome's actual visible desktop. thank you for your help |
| 22:11.23 | zinx | Harris: debian doesn't have it compiled for arm |
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| 22:11.46 | zinx | Harris: you can install iceweasel, though :/ |
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| 22:12.09 | Harris | i need to use google cloud print to use it as a print server |
| 22:12.12 | DoctorD90 | Harris, iceweasel rocks ;) |
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| 22:20.34 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: so i found it there in ~/desktop, thanks. when i run it, something goes wrong, though |
| 22:20.47 | Zakkai | a terminal pops up then closes immediately |
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| 22:21.26 | Zakkai | i edited that actual .desktop file that creates the icon so it was terminal=true instead of false and tried it again, and it just gave me a popup that said there was an error in installation :( |
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| 22:27.43 | DoctorD90 | Zakkai, have you another usb? |
| 22:27.56 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: yeah, i can try that |
| 22:28.33 | Zakkai | all right, i suppose that will be the next step. DoctorD90 do you know any online resources for helping troubleshoot this process, so i can teach myself? |
| 22:30.09 | DoctorD90 | just use live debian to create another install drive ;) |
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| 22:30.54 | zykotick9 | Zakkai: note, i don't think "live debian" supports installing onto UEFI systems... /me _could_ be mistaken |
| 22:31.05 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: i've got another system already running debian so i was just gonna use that to create another live drive' |
| 22:31.19 | Zakkai | zykotick9: oh if that's the problem i need to change my strategy completely |
| 22:31.27 | Zakkai | pretty sure this t420 is using uefi |
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| 22:35.39 | Zakkai | DoctorD90: afaict this usb drive should be using fat32 and a dos partition table, rigth? |
| 22:36.00 | Zakkai | and have the boot flag set |
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| 22:37.24 | DoctorD90 | Zakkai, just use dd :) |
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| 22:44.03 | clivejo | I am running a Debian Live DVD with KDE, is there a way to install via this disc? |
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| 22:49.03 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | hey |
| 22:49.11 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, are you still there? |
| 22:49.12 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | just wondering, is it possible to create file which starts with - ? |
| 22:49.14 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | like -test ? |
| 22:49.17 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | if jest, then how so? |
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| 22:52.19 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: nope, fishing |
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| 22:52.38 | DoctorD90 | fishing? 0o oh...lol ok... |
| 22:53.01 | DoctorD90 | i would just know about /var /tmp and /home :P |
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| 22:53.35 | Shadow_7 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: something like... $ touch -- \-temp |
| 22:53.54 | DoctorD90 | because im seeing proc-sys-dev and dev/pts |
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| 22:54.20 | DoctorD90 | not about /tmp :P |
| 22:54.58 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: mount (without parms) shows a few extras |
| 22:55.16 | Shadow_7 | like /tmp being tmpfs and such. |
| 22:55.32 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | Shadow_7: thx |
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| 22:56.43 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: and maybe a few new kids on the block like /run /sys /opt ... |
| 22:56.45 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, so? 0o ...im from live |
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| 22:57.11 | DoctorD90 | btw, i leave you at fishing :) i will ask to google :S |
| 22:57.12 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: as opposed to undead |
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| 22:58.05 | DoctorD90 | what? XD |
| 22:58.51 | Eight | I'm a little puzzled here. How does... this [ http://i.imgur.com/21fY93W.png ] happen? "lspci -mn" running for 41 minutes and taking up 100% CPU? |
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| 23:00.11 | TyrfingMjolnir | Eight: strace? |
| 23:00.21 | Shadow_7 | Eight: why -m ? -nnk |
| 23:00.24 | foreverska | why is the depend for libxcb-shm0-dev 1.11.1-1, libxcb-shm0 (= 1.10-3)? |
| 23:00.44 | Shadow_7 | 8 cores and 16GB of RAM... *sigh* |
| 23:01.09 | Eight | Shadow_7: I didn't start that. This is almost a default installation, I haven't touched in some time. :/ |
| 23:01.16 | Eight | *touched Debian |
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| 23:02.59 | Shadow_7 | Eight: so ssh enabled? and some stranger in the house? |
| 23:04.01 | Eight | Almost. It is Debian Stretch, with Gnome Wayland, so it's probably my fault. It would freeze with X though, and stable doesn't have the required drivers. |
| 23:04.23 | Shadow_7 | Eight: normally you would install stable and upgrade |
| 23:04.44 | Shadow_7 | or as they say... the installer in testing... is for "TESTING" the installer. |
| 23:05.47 | Eight | Shadow_7: No, I didn't setup an ssh server. It is spawned by "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst install". I did install stable, and then upgrade. |
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| 23:06.54 | Eight | Well... I did s/jessie/stretch/ in /etc/apt/sources.list. That's the correct way to do that, right? |
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| 23:11.11 | Shadow_7 | Eight: #debian-next on oftc would know better. |
| 23:11.26 | Shadow_7 | But either testing or stretch would work. Instead of using jessie or stable |
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| 23:12.53 | Eight | Thank you, I have an idea now! I'll be trying some things (and break my laptop again). :D |
| 23:12.53 | apt | no problem, Eight |
| 23:13.23 | heap_ | hi, pls date shows me date |
| 23:13.23 | heap_ | Thu Jan 1 00:09:20 UTC 1970 |
| 23:13.28 | heap_ | but ntpd is running |
| 23:13.30 | heap_ | any idea? |
| 23:13.38 | head8debian | Hey all, i just bought a SD card, and its throwing a bunch of errors and not working right. Does it appear to be junk? http://paste.debian.net/356664/ |
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| 23:14.03 | Shadow_7 | heap_: no network? or dns? or valid servers to sync to |
| 23:14.05 | teraflops | head8debian: do you have internet? |
| 23:14.07 | teraflops | heh |
| 23:14.28 | heap_ | oki |
| 23:14.30 | teraflops | ups i meant heap_ |
| 23:14.32 | heap_ | yes |
| 23:14.42 | Shadow_7 | head8debian: dd some zeroes to it and cmp /dev/zeros to it to validate that it took them. |
| 23:14.43 | heap_ | network is there |
| 23:15.06 | teraflops | heap_: as in you can ping e.g google.com? |
| 23:15.08 | Shadow_7 | head8debian: but it's not unusual for SD cards to fail out of the box |
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| 23:15.30 | heap_ | i changed user to root |
| 23:15.32 | heap_ | and it works fine |
| 23:15.34 | heap_ | weird |
| 23:15.44 | teraflops | huh? |
| 23:16.24 | head8debian | Shadow_7: I can copy for a few secs after i plug it in then it freezes and never responds again. |
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| 23:16.38 | Shadow_7 | heap_: yeah... it probably needs a port < 1024 so root is the only one with that option. |
| 23:17.12 | head8debian | Shadow_7: Huh, i wonder if it was my micro SD adapter... |
| 23:17.23 | Shadow_7 | head8debian: once it reaches it's write speed cache it'll slow down a lot. try dcfldd which will give you feedback about progress |
| 23:17.34 | Shadow_7 | head8debian: it could be the reader |
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| 23:17.57 | head8debian | Ive tried it in many diferent machines. |
| 23:18.03 | head8debian | Oh, nope, its stalled again. |
| 23:18.12 | heap_ | teraflops: i think it booted up with no network |
| 23:18.18 | heap_ | then i logged in with user x /no network |
| 23:18.23 | heap_ | then i pluged in network |
| 23:18.25 | teraflops | heap_: that makes sense |
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| 23:19.30 | Guest47430 | say 80 degrees temperature of the CPU laptop is very much? |
| 23:19.43 | Shadow_7 | head8debian: if you have another card that doesn't behave that way, suspect the card |
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| 23:20.09 | head8debian | Shadow_7: Ok, thanks for the info. |
| 23:20.23 | head8debian | Ive "deleted" stuff off the SD card only for it to not be deleted... |
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| 23:21.54 | heap_ | is there any service or daemon responsible for network? |
| 23:22.12 | heap_ | i had wheezy and after upgrade to jessie my network doesnt work |
| 23:22.43 | Shadow_7 | heap_: networkmanager, and a few others. Depends on what you have installed and configured. |
| 23:22.58 | heap_ | there is nothing as default? |
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| 23:23.15 | heap_ | there is no network manager running on my install |
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| 23:24.37 | Shadow_7 | heap_: if no "manager" installed then /etc/network/interfaces plays god |
| 23:24.42 | MrDetonia | Hey, my PC just crashed (possibly graphics issue; screen filled with static and output stopped, heard fan inside case revving up and down before I hard rebooted it). Nothing of relavence in syslog, what are some other logs worth checking to find out what happened? |
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| 23:27.07 | heap_ | Shadow_7: its empty |
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| 23:27.50 | Logg | I just put this in my .bash_aliases file: alias fixapt='sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo echo "" > /var/lib/dpkg/lock'. Seem dangerous to anyone? stupid? |
| 23:28.02 | Logg | sick of having to reboot whenever I have to kill apt-get |
| 23:28.06 | Shadow_7 | heap_: then probably need to: # dpkg-reconfigure networking |
| 23:28.07 | heap_ | weird |
| 23:28.15 | Shadow_7 | or something like that |
| 23:28.22 | heap_ | dpkg-query: package 'networking' is not installed and no information is available |
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| 23:29.15 | Shadow_7 | heap_: try ifupdown instead of networking |
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| 23:32.10 | heap_ | nothing |
| 23:33.12 | Shadow_7 | heap_: there's the old school ways... man interfaces |
| 23:33.24 | heap_ | ok |
| 23:33.35 | heap_ | is it good idea to install on server one networkmanager? |
| 23:33.48 | Shadow_7 | idk... not an admin |
| 23:34.30 | peltydl0y | don't do NetworkManager unless you're planning to use a GUI for it and in turn a DE |
| 23:34.48 | Shadow_7 | There's nmtui to use network manager on the CLI |
| 23:35.13 | peltydl0y | doesn't it still used about 200mb of ram? |
| 23:35.17 | peltydl0y | use* |
| 23:35.24 | heap_ | ok |
| 23:35.29 | heap_ | then interfaces |
| 23:35.36 | Shadow_7 | there's the isc-dhcp-* stuff and wicd and other networking options |
| 23:37.58 | Shadow_7 | I tend to do my network manually after bootup. I like it that way |
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| 23:50.27 | johnfg | I've got a partition for /home, and my previous squeeze, and wheezy was run while i had it. Like what was said about the /var partition, should I just mv everything from /home to the partition mounted on /mnt/temp; then mount that partition on /home? |
| 23:51.02 | johnfg | current /home on jessie, to the old home. That shouldn't mess anything up, should it? |
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| 23:55.09 | Ademan | so I've got an optical-drive-less laptop I'm not certain will boot from USB... if it can't boot from USB what are my options for imaging the HDD from another computer? |
| 23:55.34 | Shadow_7 | Ademan: pxe boot |
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| 23:56.29 | Ademan | Shadow_7: hrm thanks, that wasn't even on my radar |
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| 23:58.28 | Shadow_7 | although most support usb boot.. might need to disable secure and enable legacy/csm |
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| 23:59.17 | Shadow_7 | at least most since 2006 |
