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| 00:03.32 | Ademan | this may well be older |
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| 00:03.49 | t4nk996 | hello |
| 00:03.55 | Shadow_7 | I've chainloaded usb from cdrom via grub |
| 00:04.05 | t4nk996 | i created a ipv6 subnet @ hurricance electric, running a vps @ scaleway - i got 64 and 48 subet and want to be able to use multiple ips from the 48 subet on the vps, it looks like it works when i curl a ipv6 infopage, but somehow it looks like not everything is routed correctly, doing whois queries with php/socket_create/bind and get blocked to quickly, like it would be just 1-2 ips |
| 00:04.13 | t4nk996 | any help is really appriciated, i am lost |
| 00:06.01 | t4nk996 | anybody may know about seting up network/interface, i guess i just miss out something really small |
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| 00:07.39 | Logg | Logg> I just put this in my .bash_aliases file: alias fixapt='sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo echo "" > /var/lib/dpkg/lock'. Seem dangerous to anyone? stupid? |
| 00:07.40 | Logg | <Logg> sick of having to reboot whenever I have to kill apt-get |
| 00:08.14 | Shadow_7 | unneccessary... but gotta do what you gotta do |
| 00:08.48 | Logg | why unnecessary? |
| 00:08.54 | Shadow_7 | why are you having to kill apt? / based on a network filesystem and it's a microsoft network? |
| 00:09.09 | Logg | it hung |
| 00:09.41 | Logg | sometimes it just "happens" that I launch synaptic from command line and lazily ctrl-c it, which doesn't release the lock |
| 00:09.52 | Logg | "oops" every time |
| 00:10.11 | Shadow_7 | I just use apt... apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:10.35 | Logg | I don't like grepping through apt-cache when I don't know what the package name is |
| 00:10.40 | Logg | so I like synaptic |
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| 00:11.07 | Shadow_7 | Logg: dselect update && dpkg-query --load-avail -l '*partial*name*' |
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| 00:11.33 | Shadow_7 | or apt-file if you know a file that you're looking for... apt-file find bin/slock |
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| 00:15.23 | Logg | I think I broke apt when I closed it. It hung during a dist-upgrade trying to do something with linux-image-4.3.0-1-amd64 |
| 00:15.31 | Logg | so, I guess I have to convince apt to fix it |
| 00:15.55 | Logg | can't check out dselect until I fix apt |
| 00:16.23 | Shadow_7 | Logg: dpkg --clear-avail && apt-get update |
| 00:17.03 | Logg | thanks |
| 00:17.23 | Shadow_7 | apt-get -f install ... fixes a few woes too |
| 00:17.46 | Shadow_7 | dselect is like a curses selection tool for packages |
| 00:17.46 | dselect | Shadow_7: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 00:19.50 | Logg | it's complaining about dependency issues :s I think I just have to reboot. |
| 00:20.04 | Logg | resource temporarily unavailable everywhere because locked by another process |
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| 00:24.22 | Logg | was able to avoid reboot by running fuser |
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| 00:32.57 | jlim | why does tasksel not have lamp server option?? |
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| 01:13.04 | Amun_Ra | jlim: it would be so 90s |
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| 01:14.42 | Shadow_7 | isn't it a lenp stack now? linux + nginx + nosql + python |
| 01:14.52 | rww | wouldn't that be lnnp |
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| 01:15.29 | Shadow_7 | not when english types / management pronounces nginx as Engine X |
| 01:15.35 | rww | true |
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| 01:17.12 | Shadow_7 | although python is optimistic I guess. more likely to be node.js |
| 01:17.26 | Crushpest | <Crushpest> i have a bridge interface called evil. i want to redirect everything with dport 80 to port 8080. how do i do that? |
| 01:17.26 | Crushpest | <Crushpest> i tryed iptables -i evil -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 |
| 01:17.26 | Crushpest | <Crushpest> but it doesnt wor |
| 01:18.31 | Shadow_7 | REDIRECT shoould be FORWARD? idk. and probably need the reverse --sport |
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| 01:20.27 | Shadow_7 | then again I mostly suck at networking |
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| 01:38.03 | Amun_Ra | and I use shorewall almost exclusively |
| 01:39.50 | markybob | Crushpest, ask #netfilter. that's iptable's channel |
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| 01:54.36 | daemon | hey all IU am installing debian and it is isa asking me for: bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw |
| 01:54.43 | daemon | I have that on the system |
| 01:54.52 | daemon | but the dialog does not seem to find it, where do I need to place it |
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| 01:55.33 | Shadow_7 | daemon: apt-get install firmware-bnx2 |
| 01:55.43 | daemon | Shadow_7, that is the driver for the network card |
| 01:56.02 | daemon | im logged in via kvm atm |
| 01:56.27 | Shadow_7 | you need the non-free repos for it though |
| 01:56.31 | daemon | the installer keeps saying it needs that file, so I gave it; it |
| 01:56.34 | daemon | but it rewfuses to find it |
| 01:56.56 | daemon | this is actually in the installer its self |
| 01:57.03 | daemon | I really can't call out to repos |
| 01:57.27 | Shadow_7 | daemon: if you have a shell you could put the .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 01:57.42 | daemon | Shadow_7, its not a shell its just a pure binary fw file |
| 01:57.55 | daemon | https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=71BF932BA41BF04B!1161&authkey=!AP19ZpyRz41CHh4&v=3&ithint=photo%2cpng |
| 01:57.59 | daemon | which is exactly what it asks for |
| 01:58.02 | Shadow_7 | the package firmware-bnx2 contains that file though |
| 01:58.17 | daemon | it does not appear to ask for the package, just the fw ^ |
| 01:58.19 | Shadow_7 | if you have a shell you could dpkg -i the deb too |
| 01:58.32 | daemon | I do not have he deb just the .fw file, which it asked for |
| 01:58.58 | Shadow_7 | daemon: the package puts it in /lib/firmware/bnx2/ |
| 01:59.38 | Shadow_7 | which is where the module will expect it when it loads from kernel land |
| 01:59.47 | daemon | perfect let me cop it over to there |
| 02:00.03 | Devastator | daemon if you want, read here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en |
| 02:00.03 | daemon | ah now it wants another firmware file lol gonig to be a long install |
| 02:00.07 | daemon | thank you Shadow_7 |
| 02:00.17 | Shadow_7 | apt-file is a beautiful thing |
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| 02:21.53 | geocst | i have one 5 threads in a group and the other one 2 threads in a group. I want that 5 threads interact with the other 2 threads sometimes without deadlock using semaphores. What kind of approach should i go with ? |
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| 02:28.05 | bazhang | what version debian geocst \ |
| 02:28.25 | geocst | debian 8.1 KDE |
| 02:28.27 | geocst | :D |
| 02:28.38 | geocst | but i know thats not related to topic ;D |
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| 02:35.40 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: Hi, just tried ubuntu live cd and sound works here.. weird that it doesn't work with debian, because it looks like it's using the same driver |
| 02:35.52 | Aaaaand-its-gone | snd_hda_intel |
| 02:36.03 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: ubuntu tends to have a newer kernel |
| 02:36.35 | Shadow_7 | and hda-intel is quirky... most so with newer hardware relative to age of kernel |
| 02:36.57 | deltypl0y | hey, how come the debian installer always always interrupts the install with this "package survey"? |
| 02:37.25 | ofaq | sid is one unstable turd |
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| 02:37.53 | Aaaaand-its-gone | Shadow_7: how can I see the kernel version ? |
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| 02:38.19 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: uname -r |
| 02:38.36 | Shadow_7 | or uname -a for more verbose info |
| 02:38.48 | Aaaaand-its-gone | 4.2.0.16-generic |
| 02:39.05 | Aaaaand-its-gone | what's debian using now? |
| 02:39.16 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: jessie is on 3.16 |
| 02:39.30 | Aaaaand-its-gone | so you think that's the issue? |
| 02:39.40 | Aaaaand-its-gone | I guess I have to use ubuntu for now then |
| 02:39.53 | Aaaaand-its-gone | or you suggest another distro closer to debian? |
| 02:39.59 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: I tend to use kernel-package / make-kpkg to build my own kernel |
| 02:40.44 | Shadow_7 | Aaaaand-its-gone: but my laptop needs a 3.19+ kernel for the touchpad. Although the wifi works better on newer kernels too |
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| 02:43.46 | markybob | Aaaaand-its-gone, debian backports has 4.2.0. you can use jessie with that |
| 02:44.29 | markybob | !tell Aaaaand-its-gone about backports |
| 02:44.35 | shawn | Shadow_7: a c720? |
| 02:44.46 | Shadow_7 | shawn: an hp stream 11 |
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| 02:45.21 | winsen | Hi all |
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| 02:46.07 | winsen | anybody home? |
| 02:46.14 | Aaaaand-its-gone | markybob: I will try it, thanks |
| 02:46.17 | shawn | Shadow_7: oh, lol, my c720 needs 3.19 for the touchpad. i was going for the "lucky guess" effect |
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| 02:46.46 | winsen | can you please what is the best alternative to google as search engine? thanks |
| 02:46.49 | Shadow_7 | probalby the same hardware tbh. Just a normal uefi bios and win8 comes with |
| 02:47.10 | Shadow_7 | winsen: duckduckgo is a common mention |
| 02:47.36 | markybob | winsen, yes, use duck |
| 02:47.46 | shawn | darknet google |
| 02:47.55 | poffs | winsen, yacy |
| 02:47.56 | markybob | !tell shawn about tor |
| 02:48.02 | winsen | Thanks, what else? |
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| 02:48.20 | poffs | winsen, yacy. |
| 02:48.24 | markybob | winsen, that's about all i can suggest that's not shit |
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| 02:50.44 | Aaaaand-its-gone | wk |
| 02:50.49 | winsen | poffs, Shadow_7, markybob: thanks |
| 02:50.51 | Aaaaand-its-gone | winsen: I use disconnect search |
| 02:51.09 | Aaaaand-its-gone | it's like a middle mean between search engine and you |
| 02:51.20 | Aaaaand-its-gone | they supposedly care about your privacy |
| 02:51.49 | winsen | I really hate the f..google |
| 02:52.07 | Aaaaand-its-gone | winsen: https://disconnect.me/search |
| 02:52.21 | Aaaaand-its-gone | it's pretty cool, you can choose what search engine to use, also from what country |
| 02:52.40 | winsen | it doesn't matter |
| 02:52.52 | winsen | I'll try it |
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| 02:56.48 | winsen | I have to go. thanks again. |
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| 03:02.45 | shawn | markybob: oops, i didn't realize that was a bad word |
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| 03:48.18 | johnfg | hi folks |
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| 03:48.46 | joshumax | Alright, so i made a stupid today and decided to go out and upgrade to a gtx 980. since i was using a 770 before, i was on the 340.xx revision in stable. Of course, the only version that will work that's not Nouveau is in experimental, and amazongly, apt froze on the installation of libgl |
| 03:48.47 | johnfg | I moved my current home to the old partition, and then mounted the old home and all's good. |
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| 03:49.18 | joshumax | the problem seems to lie in https://github.com/imedias/nvidia-support/blob/master/check-for-mismatching-nvidia-module |
| 03:49.56 | joshumax | reading from /proc/driver/nvidia hangs the system |
| 03:51.18 | joshumax | ls can't be sigkilled, and the kernel is deadlocking |
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| 03:52.10 | joshumax | apt is stuck, and my workstation may or may not be on fire |
| 03:52.55 | blubee | hi guys, I am on jessie 8.2 i've added both jessie and wheezy backports but can't seem to find a realtime kernel in any repositories |
| 03:53.05 | blubee | how do i go about getting one? |
| 03:53.38 | joshumax | oh yes, and i only have access to one other virtual terminal... anyone have any ideas? |
| 03:53.45 | johnfg | I wanted to make sure about doing the same thing for the /var partition. Obviously, things are moving on the live /var under /. |
| 03:54.41 | johnfg | From what was suggested last night: go into single user mode, then do a move or an rsync of /var to /mnt/temp where the old /var partition is mounted? |
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| 04:28.46 | mah454 | Hello |
| 04:29.07 | mah454 | Wht KDE platform 5.5.2 or 5.5.1 not released for debian testing ? |
| 04:29.22 | mah454 | s/wht/why/g |
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| 04:42.48 | pencilandpaper | Is it in unstable mah454 ? |
| 04:42.55 | pencilandpaper | Sid. |
| 04:43.11 | mah454 | WOW !!!! |
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| 04:44.46 | mah454 | pencilandpaper: So , release to testing ? |
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| 05:29.02 | Syafiq | Hello I am new to Debian |
| 05:29.11 | Syafiq | What is a the different between Debian and Ubuntu? |
| 05:29.24 | Syafiq | And which is better? |
| 05:29.29 | Syafiq | Any opinions? |
| 05:29.43 | somiaj | !ubuntu |
| 05:29.43 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 05:29.46 | somiaj | !based on debian |
| 05:29.46 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 05:30.29 | somiaj | Syafiq: ubuntu uses a similar package format and there is overlap in packages, but in tersm of the policy, how releases are made, how the core is configured, you will see quite a bit of difference between ubuntu and Debian |
| 05:30.43 | Syafiq | I see |
| 05:30.47 | somiaj | And rember that if you use irc support, the community you get also comes with your distro. |
| 05:30.55 | Syafiq | How about Fedora? |
| 05:31.05 | somiaj | Fedora is a different package management system |
| 05:31.31 | Syafiq | I see. |
| 05:31.40 | somiaj | but any distro is mostly about the packages that are available, how releases are made and the policy for what is considered a proper package for that distro. |
| 05:31.50 | Syafiq | It is possible to have malwares in Debian? |
| 05:32.24 | Syafiq | Some webpages said it is possible while the other said no. |
| 05:32.36 | Syafiq | So how about your opinion? |
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| 05:33.49 | somiaj | Possible, yes. But if you only use proper debian packages, make sure to run debian stable and keep up to date on seucirty support you should be just fine |
| 05:34.17 | somiaj | i.e. If you install random .debs debian won't stop you from doing this and this can install maleware and break your install. (make sure to use only offical debian repos) |
| 05:34.26 | Syafiq | Are there any malwares in the Synaptic Manager? |
| 05:34.37 | Syafiq | I see. |
| 05:34.48 | somiaj | also I do belive it is possible to download malware and run it as a binary in home, but this is rare. |
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| 05:35.14 | somiaj | If you add some third party repo to your sources.list there is nothing debian can do about the sofware you egt from there. |
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| 05:35.38 | Syafiq | I see. |
| 05:35.44 | Syafiq | Thanks, Somiaj. |
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| 05:39.13 | okee | Can someone refresh me how to kill a running process? KeePass2 in Debian Stable is locked up. I typed ps ax | grep KeePass2, and 5808 pts/0 S+ showed, up. I then typed kill 5808 and received an error message indicating no running process. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 05:58.14 | TomTheDragon | trying to diagnose someone's network problems on Debian 8. it worked in Debian's net installer, so this is very baffling. |
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| 06:08.39 | Gerowen | TomTheDragon: What kind of network problem? |
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| 06:25.05 | TomTheDragon | Gerowen: well, dhcp never resolves, and walking him through setting up static routes was a pain |
| 06:25.13 | TomTheDragon | but, no pings at all |
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| 06:25.40 | TomTheDragon | Gerowen: note, it worked just fine in the network installer |
| 06:26.01 | TomTheDragon | perhaps we need to rollback the kernel version, if it's at all different? |
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| 06:31.08 | foul_owl | Hi folks. I'm having an issue with not getting 3d acceleration on one monitor |
| 06:31.21 | foul_owl | Using the nvidia legacy drivers from the repos, debian 8 |
| 06:31.59 | foul_owl | I have two video cards, both nvidia cards, I get 3d acceleration on the two monitors driven by the higher end card, but not from the one monitor driven by the lower end card |
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| 07:17.15 | semeion | after install vbox guest additions (following this instructions: http://virtualboxes.org/doc/installing-guest-additions-on-debian/) i am getting this error: http://i.imgur.com/LJQESkn.png |
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| 07:59.04 | bhuddah | !ops rabid spammer |
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| 08:08.11 | Logg | that is fucked up. |
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| 08:08.41 | Logg | my desktop is telling me to kill myself |
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| 08:09.17 | Logg | it's always saying like "consider your reputation. change names and move to a new town" |
| 08:09.24 | Logg | this is not what I signed up for |
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| 08:09.51 | Stummi | well, then we come back to the split up between offensive and non-offensive fortunes. Never understood fortun which falls into which category |
| 08:10.00 | Stummi | *fortune |
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| 08:11.49 | Stummi | Logg, to the offensive category? |
| 08:11.56 | Stummi | ~$ /usr/games/fortune -o |
| 08:11.58 | Stummi | "Atheism - Your Gain, No Pain!" |
| 08:12.04 | Stummi | hm.. whatever. |
| 08:12.12 | jetscreamer | sounds pc to me :o punny punny punny |
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| 08:35.16 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, another day :D another try :D |
| 08:36.11 | Logg | the doctor is in |
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| 08:42.47 | DoctorD90 | yep... |
| 08:42.52 | DoctorD90 | last nigth i fail to debootstrap |
| 08:43.06 | DoctorD90 | probably i move folder in bad moment |
| 08:43.15 | DoctorD90 | now i will try to move all in a second moment |
| 08:43.36 | DoctorD90 | btw...if i encrypt /, why i should encrupt also tmp and var? Logg ?? |
| 08:44.05 | Stummi | DoctorD90, you are encrypting partitions, not directories |
| 08:44.16 | DoctorD90 | or i split all folder, like USR, or it is the same to use / /home and /swap |
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| 08:44.23 | Stummi | if you want you whole system encrypted, and /var/ and /tmp/ are its own partitions, you need to encrypt all of them |
| 08:44.29 | DoctorD90 | yes Stummi, but partiotions, are system folder at the end |
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| 08:44.51 | DoctorD90 | yes, but this is my point |
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| 08:45.28 | DoctorD90 | at the moment i have= boot, /(enc) /home(enc) /var(enc) /tmp(enc) /swap(enc) |
| 08:45.34 | Stummi | DoctorD90, theres no much sense in encrypting your root/system partition but not encrypting your home partition, since the most sensitive data will be in your home partition |
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| 08:46.02 | DoctorD90 | in the moment i have / encrypted, why I should create other partitions, and encryt them? I cannot levae them in / ? |
| 08:46.27 | DoctorD90 | at the moment, i encrypted /(root) too |
| 08:46.37 | DoctorD90 | all except boot |
| 08:46.38 | Stummi | you can, its personal taste if you do this or not. You either have your whole system in two partitions (/ and /boot) or more. If you have choosen more partitions you have to encrypt all of them |
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| 08:47.24 | DoctorD90 | yes, but beeing the only 1 user, I may also part the system like /(root)(enc), and /home(enc) |
| 08:47.29 | DoctorD90 | rigth? |
| 08:47.33 | Stummi | yes |
| 08:47.57 | DoctorD90 | it is just the same to have / /var /tmp all in different partitions and encrypted |
| 08:48.31 | DoctorD90 | rigth? I dont get any enhancement splitting "folder"/system in more partition, when I encrypt also / |
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| 08:48.43 | Stummi | yes, these days it doesn't make a big difference if you put /var/ and /tmp/ in a own partition or not |
| 08:48.44 | DoctorD90 | ...ok....i have to re-encrypt all disk...LOL |
| 08:49.27 | DoctorD90 | Stummi, sorry me. You say "these days"...may I ask you what do you mean? in previous days what has been changed? 0o |
| 08:49.33 | Stummi | on my system, theres just one partition (besides the /boot partition) - works well too |
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| 08:50.27 | DoctorD90 | I would just create /home separated, so i can format |
| 08:50.37 | Stummi | serval things. Maybe old filesystems just couldn't be big enough to cover a whole disk, or you did want to mount /var from a network drive |
| 08:50.41 | DoctorD90 | ah...swap! i forget swap partition :D |
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| 08:50.56 | Stummi | or /usr |
| 08:51.05 | DoctorD90 | aaa....right....fs limitations :P rigth |
| 08:51.18 | Stummi | if you want to use swap, encrypt it too |
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| 08:51.25 | DoctorD90 | beeing new, just 5 five years to linux, i forget all these stuff :D |
| 08:51.40 | DoctorD90 | in reality i dont like very much swap... |
| 08:51.54 | DoctorD90 | i have 3g of RAM, and Im using LXDE |
| 08:52.37 | DoctorD90 | i have thoguth to set swap at 5gb...so i can get at least 8 giga or "RAM" |
| 08:52.44 | DoctorD90 | what do you suggest? :) |
| 08:53.29 | DoctorD90 | I had Swap on a little acer netboook, on a ssd....ssd has expired exatly after 1 year of life....swap has detroyed it :P |
| 08:54.52 | Stummi | yeah, swap on a ssd is a bad idea |
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| 08:56.02 | Stummi | also, in my experience, swap is counter producitve if you already have more ram than you will need during normal usage. If something wents wrong causing a process soaking up with memory, without swap it will just be killed by the kernel. With swap, you system will likely get unusable |
| 08:56.02 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: echo 20 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness |
| 08:56.04 | Shadow_7 | the default is 60 |
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| 08:56.56 | Shadow_7 | My laptop has a SDHC card reader, I put swap to there. Since I can't boot that SDHC card reader |
| 08:57.20 | well_laid_lawn | you can build a kernel to not use swap |
| 08:57.28 | _abc_ | has trouble with a ricoh sdhc card controller in a laptop - never worked right, only with some few kernels |
| 08:57.49 | Shadow_7 | you can echo 0 to that /proc/.../swappiness to set that to true too |
| 08:58.16 | Stummi | or you just do not mount swap, to not use swap ;) |
| 08:58.25 | Stummi | s/mount/activate |
| 08:59.31 | Shadow_7 | I only have 2GB of ram, and java games tend to eat up 1.6GB of that. Gotta have swap |
| 08:59.39 | Shadow_7 | (or I die during a boss fight) |
| 09:00.02 | Stummi | you are fighting bosses with java? |
| 09:01.01 | Shadow_7 | (at least it's not flash) |
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| 09:02.14 | Shadow_7 | tbh, I have flash allocated. But I attach it manually, not automatically. Which I forget to do 95% of the time anyway |
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| 09:03.59 | Shadow_7 | s/flash/swap/ |
| 09:04.14 | Shadow_7 | I should probably start drinking coffee or something |
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| 09:05.11 | DoctorD90 | okok....i will use 5g of swap XD ok...but i may restet swappiness :P |
| 09:05.15 | DoctorD90 | i will do for sure XD |
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| 09:05.23 | DoctorD90 | ok...le's part again disk :D |
| 09:05.45 | Shadow_7 | I also use swap FILEs, not partitions |
| 09:05.53 | Stummi | DoctorD90, use lvm, if you are already on it |
| 09:06.14 | Shadow_7 | free or "swapon -s" to see if it's there already |
| 09:06.22 | DoctorD90 | Stummi, i dont like it :P |
| 09:06.33 | DoctorD90 | im a little bit old style xD |
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| 09:07.16 | DoctorD90 | and even if this is a good momment to lear....I prefer learn how to build u an entire sstem with deboot trap :P lvm ...i may learn it even with usb disk :P |
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| 09:07.19 | Shadow_7 | with swap files, I can allocate new files and stop using the old ones to help save a disk |
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| 09:07.46 | medfly | I'm attempting to install stuff in Debian unsuccessfully. it's telling me "Undetermined error". it was a hassle during installt oo though with no details on error. |
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| 09:08.22 | DoctorD90 | oh...shit..i have to install matlab... -.- ...okok, 50 gigas to / >.> uff |
| 09:08.30 | DoctorD90 | nope...i cant use octave.... |
| 09:08.50 | DoctorD90 | my teacher wants I use matlab...he "cant" use octave...pff |
| 09:09.00 | DoctorD90 | and some function I havent in octave :) |
| 09:09.03 | DoctorD90 | :( * |
| 09:09.11 | medfly | you can get functions that are missing in octave with pkg install, usually. |
| 09:09.15 | medfly | oh. |
| 09:09.42 | medfly | yes, it's not totally compatible. |
| 09:10.07 | DoctorD90 | medfly, eheheh...i did this discussions thousand of time xD ...I know all possibile reply xD but t least only one unfortunatly is the MAIN reason....My teacher wants matlab :P .... |
| 09:10.35 | medfly | yes, I've had the misfortune of having a class that required us to use Visual Studio 2010. godspeed and good luck |
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| 09:11.16 | DoctorD90 | ok....500mega to boot, 50g to / , 5g to swap(+3RAM=8g), home=242.5 gb :P not bad for a portable :P |
| 09:11.44 | DoctorD90 | ahahahah...my teacher asks me some week ago, to download visual studio :P |
| 09:12.09 | DoctorD90 | but i have find out more than 1 version -.- and not well explained differences between them >.> |
| 09:12.18 | DoctorD90 | microsoft...as always... |
| 09:12.34 | DoctorD90 | gpt aplling... |
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| 09:14.07 | _abc_ | Rest assured that the same version downloaded a few days apart may be different in dlls. Guess how I know this? |
| 09:15.15 | jelly | !offtopic |
| 09:15.15 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 09:16.41 | medfly | I'm having some trouble fetching any packages. |
| 09:18.46 | medfly | and with literally nothing installed this is a problem. |
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| 09:19.08 | medfly | all I got is "Undetermined Error", suggestions? |
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| 09:53.20 | Elephantman | hi :) got a dependency problem on libc6 in wheezy... version 2.17-97 is installed but libc6-dev depends on libc6=2.13-38+deb7u8 |
| 09:53.46 | Elephantman | dunno how that could be tbh, and re-installing libc6 is a risky challenge |
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| 10:03.00 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7 some issues..... |
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| 10:03.12 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: get tissues |
| 10:03.22 | DoctorD90 | dbus-uuidgen > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id |
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| 10:03.34 | DoctorD90 | cp /etc/resolv.conf etc/resolv.conf |
| 10:03.48 | DoctorD90 | mount -t proc none /media/root/proc |
| 10:03.58 | DoctorD90 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.08 | DoctorD90 | mount --bind /dev /media/root/dev |
| 10:04.16 | DoctorD90 | chroot /media/root |
| 10:04.17 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: don't need to share sys on chroot |
| 10:04.18 | DoctorD90 | chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error |
| 10:04.35 | DoctorD90 | ( im from a live enviorenment ) |
| 10:04.46 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: dash is debain default. Bash might not be installed |
| 10:05.05 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: chroot /media/root /bin/dash |
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| 10:05.28 | DoctorD90 | is strange, because on usb, when i run it, i works...but ok! let's try :D |
| 10:05.34 | DoctorD90 | (i umount sys? |
| 10:05.36 | DoctorD90 | ) |
| 10:05.55 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: probably doesn't matter, but not needed afaik |
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| 10:06.16 | DoctorD90 | ok, dash too doesnt exist .-. ..something is going wrong -.- |
| 10:06.18 | DoctorD90 | uff |
| 10:06.22 | Shadow_7 | depending on what you're going to do with the chroot... if just installed select packages, not important |
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| 10:06.45 | DoctorD90 | debootstrap --arch=amd64 --variant=minbase jessie /media/root http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 10:07.07 | DoctorD90 | but when i create lives cd, it works .-. ... |
| 10:07.10 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: --variant=minbase... perhaps leave that off |
| 10:07.22 | DoctorD90 | i also run mount -o remount,rw,exec,dev /media/root |
| 10:07.40 | DoctorD90 | because if i dont, debootstrap gives me: E: Cannot install into target '/media/root' mounted with noexec or nodev |
| 10:07.58 | Shadow_7 | Although bash and dash might be missing from the liveCD??? apt-get install bash on the live cd? |
| 10:08.10 | DoctorD90 | im on kali, and i have bash xD |
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| 10:08.18 | DoctorD90 | this is really strange xD ahahah |
| 10:08.42 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: I normally... export LANG=C; chroot /mnt/chroot /bin/bash |
| 10:08.57 | DoctorD90 | uhm....export lang...i give it a try |
| 10:09.04 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: and I normally only share /proc/ and /dev/ |
| 10:09.26 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: you might have some selinux stuff in the way on kali |
| 10:09.30 | DoctorD90 | ok..i unmont all, and mount only proc and dev |
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| 10:09.52 | DoctorD90 | nope Shadow_7 : im using commans that i use to creates live cds...and they works xD |
| 10:10.09 | DoctorD90 | I have chrooted this august with the same command/enviorenment xD |
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| 10:10.30 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: echo $SHELL |
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| 10:10.47 | DoctorD90 | bash lol |
| 10:10.51 | DoctorD90 | ahahahah |
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| 10:11.13 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: so that --variant might have not installed bash on the thing you're chrooting to |
| 10:11.14 | DoctorD90 | ....umont device is busy 0o |
| 10:11.35 | DoctorD90 | ok, reboot....xD |
| 10:11.35 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: the joys of systemd. never have that issue on sysv |
| 10:12.02 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: basically have to stop dbus, udev, and everything ON THE HOST to umount it |
| 10:12.16 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: so yes... reboot cures all |
| 10:12.24 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, i love live, because i just need to reboot XD |
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| 10:15.09 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: might also try httpredir.debian.org versus ftp.it.debian.org |
| 10:15.37 | armin | i have a lot of reboots that just hang because system just decided to try to shut something down on reboots. |
| 10:15.48 | armin | on several boxes, with very different services. |
| 10:15.59 | DoctorD90 | ok, come back. now all from zero.... |
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| 10:16.12 | pierre__ | hi! |
| 10:16.17 | armin | hi. |
| 10:16.37 | Shadow_7 | rebooting on systemd gets wonky too if you don't reboot at least once every 30 days |
| 10:17.04 | pierre__ | i'm starting debian in console mode (without Xserver running) with 2 monitors. is there a way to only power one monitor? (i want to set up the other later through xrandr) |
| 10:17.08 | Shadow_7 | waits for something for some reason. silly |
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| 10:17.42 | ChrisH | Shadow_7: can you tell more about the delay? I rarely boot boxes once a month. |
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| 10:18.12 | Shadow_7 | I don't really pay much attention to it, but it waits for like 90 seconds on something |
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| 10:18.33 | Shadow_7 | probably to flush disks or some service to gracefully stop |
| 10:19.00 | Shadow_7 | I normally do a fresh install by now though. Been using this setup since august |
| 10:19.14 | DoctorD90 | ok, debootstrapping ...debootstrap --arch=amd64 --variant=minbase jessie /media/root http://httpredir.debian.org/debian |
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| 10:19.27 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: drop the --variant |
| 10:19.33 | DoctorD90 | ok! |
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| 10:19.57 | DoctorD90 | E: Cannot install into target '/media/root' mounted with noexec or nodev >> i remount /medoa/root |
| 10:20.07 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: and might want to cd to /media/root before the command... just to be safe |
| 10:20.23 | DoctorD90 | mount -o remount,rw,exec,dev /media/root |
| 10:20.24 | DoctorD90 | ok |
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| 10:21.33 | winsen | Hi all |
| 10:22.13 | winsen | can you please tell how solve the following problem, I can't access to log. |
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| 10:22.29 | winsen | this is error message: http://paste.debian.net/356694/ |
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| 10:22.48 | xand | winsen: the files don't exist. |
| 10:24.36 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7 bash and dash retrieved and validated in list :P ...im waiting for completing :D |
| 10:25.09 | winsen | xand: ok but how can I check to my logs on my computer? |
| 10:25.20 | xand | winsen: cd /var/log |
| 10:25.21 | xand | ls -l |
| 10:25.32 | winsen | I'll try |
| 10:25.45 | Shadow_7 | winsen: if /etc/fstab isn't setup, / is read-only. So logs never get created or written to. Hence read-only |
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| 10:28.15 | michel_ | Error contacting apcupsd @ 127.0.0.1:3551: Connection refused. How can i fix this? |
| 10:29.02 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7 W: Failure trying to run: chroot /media/root mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 10:29.09 | DoctorD90 | W: See /media/root/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details |
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| 10:29.26 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: from debootstrap? |
| 10:29.33 | DoctorD90 | chroot: failed to run command `mount': Exec format error (yes) |
| 10:29.34 | winsen | Shadow_7, xand: thanks. but I can't see details who used my computed...etc |
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| 10:29.43 | winsen | computer |
| 10:29.51 | xand | who used it? |
| 10:30.12 | xand | if people have accounts on it, type: last -aF |
| 10:30.18 | xand | that'll show you who's logged in |
| 10:30.30 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: might need to grab debootstrap from packages.debian.org and ar -x and tar -x it and run that binary |
| 10:30.45 | DoctorD90 | >.> ....let's do it XP |
| 10:30.45 | winsen | Shadow_7:how can I know if "etc/fstab" is installed? |
| 10:31.02 | Shadow_7 | winsen: it's setup, not installed. cat /etc/fstab |
| 10:31.09 | DoctorD90 | even if it is strange :P may be that it due to encryption? |
| 10:31.22 | Shadow_7 | winsen: if you're not using the installer, probably a completely manual process |
| 10:31.28 | winsen | Shadow_7: oops. ok |
| 10:31.51 | winsen | Shadow_7: installer? |
| 10:31.55 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: encryption at that point would only get in the way |
| 10:32.08 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: you can convert to encrypted later with rsync |
| 10:32.31 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: the beauty of linux is that everything is basically a file on a filesystem |
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| 10:32.55 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7 so I may install on annother and put it later? rigth? |
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| 10:33.22 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: basically do the install... then clone it to it's encrypted brother at a later date |
| 10:33.31 | DoctorD90 | ok! let's try! |
| 10:34.19 | Shadow_7 | it's likely that the min debootstrap install lacks the tools (or keys) to handle the encryption |
| 10:34.41 | DoctorD90 | probably :P even if im installing in a "mounted encrypted" partition :P |
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| 10:35.09 | Shadow_7 | you could ar -x and tar -x the needed stuff all day long, but soo much easier to apt-get install it |
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| 10:36.01 | winsen | http://paste.debian.net/356695/ |
| 10:36.51 | winsen | Shadow_7: I don't know how to know if it is setup or not? |
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| 10:37.09 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: still working on kali patch? |
| 10:37.43 | winsen | Shadow_7: did you check the link? |
| 10:38.10 | Shadow_7 | winsen: that looks setup |
| 10:38.13 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra nope, i have parted disk ( /boot /(enc) /home(enc) /swap(enc)), now im trying o install with debootstrap :P but it seems having some issue :P |
| 10:38.36 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: why with deboostrap and not a proper installer? |
| 10:38.50 | zamba | i just upgraded from wheezy to jessie.. but now i'm not able to boot: "A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interf...Xs / no limit)" |
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| 10:38.59 | zamba | and it's just sitting there counting the seconds |
| 10:39.04 | Shadow_7 | winsen: you do need to be root to view most of the /var/log/ stuff. except for dmesg and Xorg.0.log |
| 10:39.13 | zamba | the interface has been brought up, as i'm able to ping the server |
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| 10:39.24 | zamba | this is the stupidest thing i've ever encountered.. |
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| 10:40.03 | winsen | Shadow_7: I did |
| 10:40.24 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra because debian installer, will overwrite gpt first of all, and then, it doesnt allow using yet encrypted partitions. It wants encrypt it by itself :P |
| 10:40.34 | teraflops | zamba: it's not stupid, just wait until it boot and fix the shit since it's a release upgrade |
| 10:40.35 | DoctorD90 | and i have encrypted with nuke patch.... |
| 10:40.43 | Shadow_7 | winsen: df ? perhaps the drive is full |
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| 10:41.06 | Shadow_7 | or odd permission issues with /var/log/ |
| 10:41.15 | zamba | teraflops: i've waited for 6 hours? |
| 10:41.19 | teraflops | heh |
| 10:41.22 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: if you don't set up given partition it won't use it (unless you need to use it) |
| 10:41.36 | teraflops | meh such a long wait |
| 10:41.42 | gonzalo2 | someone who has used refractainstaller/snapshot? |
| 10:41.45 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: there is really no difference in encryption; only cryptsetup differs |
| 10:41.49 | zamba | teraflops: "no limit" seems to be a hint here |
| 10:42.10 | zamba | so question is.. what to do here? |
| 10:42.13 | teraflops | zamba: can you switch ttys or access it via ssh? |
| 10:42.21 | zamba | teraflops: nope |
| 10:42.35 | teraflops | no to the 2 questions? |
| 10:42.40 | zamba | nope to both |
| 10:42.46 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: you could reinstall system using proper installer, then upgrade cryptsetup to nuke one, then add nuke key |
| 10:42.52 | zamba | the only thing it responds to is c+a+d |
| 10:43.03 | teraflops | hmm, no phisical access to the server? |
| 10:43.17 | Shadow_7 | zamba: sounds like a systemd thing. perhaps /etc/network/interfaces is hosed |
| 10:43.18 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra i have tried.... |
| 10:43.22 | zamba | teraflops: yup |
| 10:43.29 | zamba | but it's running lilo.... |
| 10:44.01 | zamba | dunno how i can tell lilo to just drop a shell as soon as possible |
| 10:44.10 | zamba | 'linux s' is the only thing i remember |
| 10:44.10 | teraflops | zamba: fix the interfaces file or check if you have enabled more than one network management tool |
| 10:44.11 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra i used debian installer, encrypt...at the and, from kali, i added nuke key..... and.... nothing xD when i use it it says "key doesnt exists" |
| 10:44.26 | zamba | teraflops: well, i need to be able to boot :) |
| 10:44.31 | teraflops | zamba: ...or boot into recovery and chroot it? |
| 10:44.38 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: did you install kali's cryptsetup on debian system? |
| 10:44.40 | DoctorD90 | probably it just delete itself :P i dont know :P i havent well tried to check "possible bug" in nuke patch |
| 10:44.42 | zamba | teraflops: how do i do that with lilo again? :) |
| 10:44.47 | teraflops | err ^rescue cd |
| 10:44.49 | DoctorD90 | nope 0o ... |
| 10:44.52 | winsen | http://paste.debian.net/356699/ |
| 10:44.52 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: so⦠|
| 10:45.05 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: why did you expect nuke key to be respected? ;> |
| 10:45.12 | winsen | Shadow_7: http://paste.debian.net/356699/ |
| 10:45.16 | teraflops | zamba: the very same way as you installed the first time? |
| 10:45.17 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra but it should not be from system 0o |
| 10:45.23 | zamba | teraflops: no cd-rom drive on the system |
| 10:45.28 | zamba | teraflops: this is an old system, mind you |
| 10:45.28 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: no, it ain't |
| 10:45.34 | teraflops | zamba: no usb? |
| 10:45.48 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: it's cryptsetup that knows which key is which and what to perform |
| 10:45.48 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra if now i start and try to start disk, it will nuke header |
| 10:46.10 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: there is no difference in encryption structure itself |
| 10:46.11 | DoctorD90 | btw, debian isntaller do not use gpt xD |
| 10:46.17 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: it does |
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| 10:46.28 | teraflops | zamba: how old is it? as in no cdrom, no usb? |
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| 10:46.42 | DoctorD90 | nope 0o i have tried... i parted also with gpt before, and then it doesnt leave gpt |
| 10:46.45 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: advanced install â choose drive name â select gpt |
| 10:46.53 | zamba | teraflops: as in that, yeah |
| 10:47.10 | zamba | teraflops: there's usb here, but i'm quite certain that the bios is not able to boot off it |
| 10:47.23 | DoctorD90 | advanced xD i cant find it xD ahahah |
| 10:47.38 | DoctorD90 | ok it must be in grub so xD |
| 10:47.52 | teraflops | zamba: so how the hell did you install an os there? |
| 10:47.56 | DoctorD90 | btw...im learning using deboostrap :D |
| 10:48.22 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: I mean "expert"; vide http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/112008/ssh_installer_2.jpg |
| 10:48.28 | zamba | teraflops: i believe i had a cd-rom drive attached to it those years ago :) |
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| 10:48.36 | zamba | teraflops: but can't you do some trickery with lilo? |
| 10:48.39 | teraflops | zamba: thn go grab one :P |
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| 10:48.45 | DoctorD90 | better then start an advanced menu I think :D |
| 10:48.49 | Amun_Ra | aye |
| 10:48.52 | DoctorD90 | ok...in grub xD |
| 10:48.58 | teraflops | zamba: idk to be honest |
| 10:49.01 | Shadow_7 | winsen: looks good for available space. But not an admin. If you've been compromised, deleting the logs is one of the more common things to happen. |
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| 10:49.26 | Shadow_7 | winsen: and various LIVE systems don't even write logs (since they're on read-only media) |
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| 10:50.00 | DoctorD90 | lol, hexchat gets crazy xD |
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| 10:55.59 | DoctorD90 | ok somethings has broken....same error before...lol |
| 10:56.05 | DoctorD90 | ok boot from live debian |
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| 11:04.43 | DoctorD90 | -.- stupid pc... |
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| 11:04.57 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, let's a "good" news :D |
| 11:05.12 | DoctorD90 | on lxde image isnt there "advance installation" xD ahahahah |
| 11:05.32 | DoctorD90 | only amd, amd sailfase, instal, graphic install, adance (hdt memtest) |
| 11:05.34 | DoctorD90 | lol |
| 11:05.49 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: uhm what? |
| 11:06.25 | DoctorD90 | doesnt exists "advanced installation" on live cd of amd64 for lxde :) |
| 11:06.31 | DoctorD90 | maybe it is a bug xD hahahah |
| 11:06.39 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: dload a proper iso |
| 11:06.53 | DoctorD90 | but i want lxde QQ |
| 11:06.55 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: and choose lxde when in tasksel |
| 11:06.59 | DoctorD90 | with 3g i can run lxde xD |
| 11:07.18 | DoctorD90 | >.> it will download all the world >.> |
| 11:07.21 | Amun_Ra | you can really install lxde env using normal proper debian installer |
| 11:07.58 | Amun_Ra | if you don't want to install whole lxde task, don't install gui and instal it later manually |
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| 11:08.13 | DoctorD90 | sure sure...but...ok >.> let's debian isntaller... |
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| 11:08.29 | DoctorD90 | lxde cant mount crypto disk on system 0o |
| 11:08.33 | DoctorD90 | what the hell? 0o |
| 11:08.44 | Amun_Ra | why wouldn't? |
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| 11:09.25 | DoctorD90 | i dont know 0o |
| 11:09.28 | DoctorD90 | it gives error |
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| 11:13.20 | DoctorD90 | ok..putting gnome on a usb... |
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| 11:18.06 | michel_ | how can i find the git:// address of a projekt on github? |
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| 11:19.51 | ihre | click ssh @ github |
| 11:19.57 | ihre | where you normally see the https link |
| 11:21.50 | michel_ | ihre found it thanks. i oversaw it so many time was always looking for something like git://projectxy. didnt know i can just clone the https link |
| 11:22.17 | ihre | :) |
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| 11:22.28 | winsen | Shadow_7: http://paste.debian.net/356704/ |
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| 11:23.41 | winsen | Shadow_7: I am logged as root. where is the problem? |
| 11:25.31 | zamba | teraflops: what live cd do you recommend? |
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| 11:29.53 | teraflops | zamba: debian netinstaller iso |
| 11:30.34 | Shadow_7 | winsen: what exactly is the problem? /var/log/ isn't being used? |
| 11:30.46 | teraflops | zamba: it has rescue mode so I think is fine |
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| 11:33.25 | zamba | this one: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ? |
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| 11:37.47 | gonzalo2 | hi everybody?? I am trying to boot a live cd, but I have a problem: "IPv6: ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready" |
| 11:39.12 | pikaro | hi! trying to install something from experimental, seems I don't understand repo priorities. apt-cache policy iceweasel: 43.0.1-1 900 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian experimental/main, *** 38.5.0esr-1 1000 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing/main, apt-get -t experimental install iceweasel: iceweasel is already the newest version (38.5.0esr-1). how can I force apt to draw from the lower priority repo? (I have all other debian v |
| 11:39.13 | pikaro | ersions down to oldstable as well, from 800 down.) |
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| 11:40.57 | pikaro | ah crap, the 1000 line is unstable, not testing, that's 800... copied the wrong one. |
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| 11:43.52 | pikaro | gonzalo2, there may be a myriad of reasons for this, most likely your wifi card not being supported or needing drivers that aren't supplied with debian due to legal reasons |
| 11:44.30 | pikaro | better to ask a forum like linuxquestions.org for something like this, it's probably too complicated for irc |
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| 11:56.51 | no-se | noobe on everything asking here :) ---would be debian be ok to run ona raspberrypi 2? |
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| 11:57.23 | Logg | yes, they have ported over debian |
| 11:57.30 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, probably i have understood.... |
| 11:57.41 | no-se | Logg: thx! |
| 11:57.49 | DoctorD90 | im running on live i386, and i want compile a amd64 ... |
| 11:57.57 | zamba | can someone explain to me what's going on with the modern-day linux distro? previously you could have issues with booting if there was some kernel issues.. now it halts booting for whatever error.. this is the second time i've had issues with a debian-based distro (debian/ubuntu) not willing to boot - even though it could.. |
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| 11:58.02 | Logg | no-se: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi |
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| 11:58.23 | zamba | the ubuntu system refused to boot because it couldn't mount an nfs share |
| 11:58.31 | no-se | Logg: i'm on it now. thx again! |
| 11:58.39 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: could be done... but toolkit... if you want to chroot i386 to amd64, you'll need to be running a 64 bit kernel |
| 11:58.40 | zamba | and now the debian system refuses to boot completely because it's waiting for some interface.. |
| 11:59.14 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, for this i think..because im trying to run on other sd, and hdd..and package is well compiled... |
| 11:59.27 | DoctorD90 | i just downlaod 64 version and try with it :D |
| 11:59.35 | zamba | it responds on the network.. i can ping it and everything.. but nooo.. it's stuck waiting for some silly interface not brought up |
| 11:59.56 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, i have downaldoed gnome 64b and i get lxde xD life wants that i learn to use debootstrap xD ahahhaah |
| 12:00.23 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: you could (in theory) QEMU it |
| 12:00.36 | Amun_Ra | and I really don't catch your install process |
| 12:01.16 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, i run in a live sysytem...and i run a virtualized env, to install a deboostrapped ? XD noo xD this is too much xD just download another 64bit iso xD |
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| 12:02.18 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, i dont know why, but once i start up gnome iso, it showes me lxde grub |
| 12:02.40 | DoctorD90 | i will learn to use debootstrap to isntall system instead of normal iso xD |
| 12:03.03 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: this is not lxde |
| 12:03.16 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: what are you reffering as gnome iso to? |
| 12:03.35 | DoctorD90 | i reffer to: donwlaod> amd64> gnome iso |
| 12:03.47 | DoctorD90 | instad of lxde.iso |
| 12:03.50 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: http://www.server-world.info/en/Debian_8/x/img/9.png |
| 12:04.04 | Amun_Ra | this is the moment you are choosing x11 wm |
| 12:04.33 | DoctorD90 | lol...yes, but im using lxde.iso, and it hasnt the advanced settings :P |
| 12:04.33 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: debian? |
| 12:04.39 | DoctorD90 | yes |
| 12:04.44 | DoctorD90 | wait, retrieve page |
| 12:04.48 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 12:05.00 | Amun_Ra | ah, ok |
| 12:05.03 | DoctorD90 | lo....you are an huricane :D yes! that's one :D |
| 12:05.44 | Amun_Ra | but lxde/kde/etc does not refer to installer gui; it just contains given wm packages on the iso so you don't have to dl in via net |
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| 12:06.45 | Amun_Ra | it* |
| 12:07.21 | DoctorD90 | yes, but i have donwload some days ago debian-gnome 64 iso, and now that i put on usb, at boot it showes me lxde :P |
| 12:07.31 | DoctorD90 | so something has gone wrong : |
| 12:07.33 | DoctorD90 | :D |
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| 12:08.18 | DoctorD90 | and im enjoying to use deoostrap as installation method :D so i will try a little other time with debootstrap :D i may learn something of good :D |
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| 12:09.21 | cobratbq | whoops :P |
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| 12:09.47 | franz_koopa | whoops... |
| 12:09.53 | DoctorD90 | i have tried Cdebootstrap too, but always same error....so probably was the base of i386 the issue :D now let's downlaod iso of 64 and try ^_^ |
| 12:10.24 | cobratbq | I guess I already made some enemies for life :P |
| 12:10.36 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: http://cdn.enovision.net/wp-content/uploads/image41.png you can't say it's lxde |
| 12:11.17 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: you would have debian installed yesterday if you just use debian installer |
| 12:12.06 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: and you can select gpt, as in http://stackful-dev.com/static/images/ubuntu-gpt-raid/partition-table-type.png |
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| 12:12.54 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, no, i say it was lxde, from grub...it doesnt show even the advanced option :D |
| 12:13.04 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: you mean GUI installer |
| 12:13.06 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, i may use net inst to get that "screen" ? |
| 12:13.12 | DoctorD90 | nono, grb |
| 12:13.16 | DoctorD90 | grub |
| 12:13.19 | DoctorD90 | at boot of cd |
| 12:13.32 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: you can select text/gui one in netinst too |
| 12:13.34 | DoctorD90 | grub/syslinux ( i dont know what debian use) |
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| 12:14.04 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, no to get "advance installation" |
| 12:14.13 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: same |
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| 12:14.42 | DoctorD90 | ok, so it should be faster to download it :P |
| 12:14.49 | Amun_Ra | mhm |
| 12:15.05 | Amun_Ra | it's netinst I use 99% of the time |
| 12:15.20 | DoctorD90 | looool xD maybe was this the misundertandin xD |
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| 12:15.52 | Shadow_7 | depends on your needs and network speed |
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| 12:16.30 | Shadow_7 | debootstrap is 100k-ish and you can start your installation. netinstall.iso is like 200MB-ish, plus copy to other media. THEN you can start |
| 12:16.57 | Shadow_7 | for my ISP that's a good 30 to 60 minutes of downloads |
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| 12:18.06 | DoctorD90 | xD at the momento i would learn, so i think i will go with debootstrap :D if this will burn all my holidays, i will use netinstall xD |
| 12:18.19 | DoctorD90 | because i may "play" for some other days :D |
| 12:18.54 | Shadow_7 | I can be up and running via debootstrap in about an hour, granted still apt-get-ing stuff for a few days after, but running my new install while doing so |
| 12:19.08 | Shadow_7 | But I don't encrypt anything (yet) |
| 12:19.20 | DoctorD90 | lol |
| 12:19.26 | Stummi | debootstrap is not that hard: partition, mount, debootstrap, chroot, install kernel+bootloader, minimal setup, and you are done |
| 12:19.40 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, my only issue is that it doesnt finish to deboostrap :P |
| 12:19.52 | DoctorD90 | and probably issue is about arch... |
| 12:20.00 | Shadow_7 | perhaps a bum mirror |
| 12:20.02 | Stummi | its a little bit more setup if you are going to use lvm and/or encrypted partitions, but still pretty straight forward, imho |
| 12:20.17 | DoctorD90 | Stummi, my "issue" is about mount...because on each side i find out different mounting |
| 12:20.17 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: make sure you have the most recent debootstrap before you begin |
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| 12:20.43 | Stummi | DoctorD90, what do you mean? |
| 12:21.18 | Shadow_7 | partition + mount + cd + debootstrap + chroot + apt-get linux-image-amd64 + passwd ... then use your existing bootloader to boot it (update-grub). |
| 12:21.51 | DoctorD90 | Stummi, these are just some example: |
| 12:22.11 | DoctorD90 | https://www.debian-administration.org/article/426/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 12:22.14 | Amun_Ra | nothing that couldn't be done using installer ;> |
| 12:22.25 | DoctorD90 | http://verahill.blogspot.it/2013/03/361-installing-debian-on-usb-stick-from.html |
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| 12:22.50 | DoctorD90 | sure Amun_Ra XD but learn is more exciting than press some button :D |
| 12:22.55 | Shadow_7 | Well... slow american ISPs plus data caps... and debootstrap has it's perks |
| 12:23.11 | Stummi | DoctorD90, can you tell me whats exactly the problem with this sites now? |
| 12:23.15 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: well if for learning puproses then yes |
| 12:23.23 | DoctorD90 | in these days i have learn existence of LVM, "how it works", pro and contro. I have learn about folder of linux ssystem..meaning of themm... |
| 12:23.51 | DoctorD90 | stummi, if you see mounting pahses, they mounting differences stuff :) |
| 12:23.54 | Stummi | DoctorD90, they are called directories in linux world |
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| 12:23.59 | DoctorD90 | one only 1 stuff, the other more then one |
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| 12:24.20 | DoctorD90 | ok! directory! :D learn another stuff :D |
| 12:24.36 | Stummi | DoctorD90, one site just mounts proc in your target fs, the other one also sysfs and dev. I would go with mount all three |
| 12:24.52 | DoctorD90 | other... |
| 12:24.55 | Stummi | not sure why he mounted sysfs with bind instead of mount -t sysfs, but I think that shouldn't matter |
| 12:25.11 | Shadow_7 | I mostly mount proc and dev. Needed for apt-get to do it's magic |
| 12:25.19 | Amun_Ra | albeit one can have folders in wm ;> |
| 12:25.22 | DoctorD90 | do you see??X D im not so skilled to understand.. so i have some trouble with understanding why they do that :P |
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| 12:26.16 | Shadow_7 | if I'm cloning a kernel from another install I don't need to mount either. I just need to chroot to use passwd so I can login when I boot it |
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| 12:28.23 | DoctorD90 | atm the moment, i use these commmands to chroot: mount nonte -t proc /path/proc && mount none -t sysfs /path/sys && mount .o bind /dev /path/dev && mount none - devpts /path/dev/pts |
| 12:29.24 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: mount -t proc none /path/proc && mount --rbind /dev /path/dev ... that's about all you need |
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| 12:30.31 | Stummi | Shadow_7, --rbind moves the mountpoint instead of cloning it, does it? |
| 12:30.32 | DoctorD90 | before of mounting i run also cp resolv.conf....and dbus-uuigen > path/var/lib/dbus/machine-id |
| 12:30.35 | Stummi | *doesn't it |
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| 12:30.57 | DoctorD90 | (or at least, these what i do when i create live cd) |
| 12:31.05 | Shadow_7 | Stummi: idk.. I basically need to reboot after anyway... -o bind might be equal roughly |
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| 12:33.52 | Shadow_7 | I guess if it does, that might explain why under systemd it becomes impossible to umount the chroot environment |
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| 12:42.33 | DoctorD90 | lunch time... thx to all ^_^ |
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| 12:55.49 | no_gravity | hello! can an alias be done so that "tldr something" becomes "wget someurl/something.html"? |
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| 12:55.53 | no_gravity | or is a function needed for that? |
| 12:57.16 | Amun_Ra | no_gravity: function |
| 12:57.41 | no_gravity | ok |
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| 13:03.44 | no_gravity | is it save to do "wget -qO- somehost.com/somefile" or could this execute code on your machine? |
| 13:04.14 | no_gravity | via some crazy escape characters or whatnot. |
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| 13:07.01 | explo | hi guys - i hope this is an easy one :S - i try to create a br0 interface like described here: http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_8&p=kvm&f=1 - but for wlan0 instead of eth0 - but if a activate the settings my wlan0 disappears and im not connected to my network anymore :S |
| 13:07.48 | explo | im running debian jessie if that helps ^^ |
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| 13:13.00 | teraflops | explo: are you aware not all the silly wireless devices admit bridge mode? |
| 13:13.55 | explo | no - not really - got the integrated one from my X99-Pro USB3.1 Motherboard :S |
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| 13:14.52 | explo | teraflops: how can i check this ? |
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| 13:15.44 | teraflops | explo: also ip link show and ip a would be helpfull instead my wlan0 disappears |
| 13:16.00 | explo | ok |
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| 13:16.39 | teraflops | explo: find out the wireless nick and its pci id and ask the internet about being compatible |
| 13:16.48 | teraflops | nic* |
| 13:18.11 | teraflops | explo: well, also brctl show |
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| 13:21.10 | explo | teraflops: OH - after a reboot the wlan0 appears again oO |
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| 13:21.40 | teraflops | sure if the brctl settings are not persistent :P |
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| 13:22.08 | explo | teraflops: pastebin.com/S4Jy602n |
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| 13:22.49 | explo | teraflops: brctl isnt installed at all :S |
| 13:22.58 | teraflops | ^ no http + pastebin.con ... yore making things hard to me ehh |
| 13:23.18 | explo | sorry :S have to type of my other machine :S |
| 13:24.34 | teraflops | explo: hmm it looks fine |
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| 13:25.56 | explo | but i cannot connect to my wlan - so (i am not good at this stuff) am i missing something fundamental - im trying to connect over the GUI Wlan Manager of Deb 8 - is there a way to make the SSID etc. persistant with a .conf or something ? |
| 13:26.19 | explo | at first it dissapeared and now i cant join - *confusedà |
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| 13:26.39 | Shadow_7 | explo: wpa_supplicant / wpa_passphrase... network manager / nmtui |
| 13:27.01 | Shadow_7 | could be quirky driver or signal strength issue |
| 13:27.15 | explo | Shadow_7: ok - thank you - going to read me into this ones |
| 13:27.26 | teraflops | explo: but it has nothing to be with the bridge afaik, use wpa_supplicant or whatever |
| 13:27.46 | Shadow_7 | if it's new-ish hardware, likely the driver... if it's old-ish... |
| 13:27.48 | markybob | explo, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse what's the card? lspci -nn |
| 13:27.54 | Shadow_7 | then driver is probably about as good as it will get |
| 13:28.47 | explo | Broadcom BCM4352 802.11ac |
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| 13:28.54 | teraflops | bcm ^ |
| 13:29.24 | Shadow_7 | ac would imply new-ish... broadcom would imply b43 driver... check dmesg for firmware concerns |
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| 13:29.47 | markybob | explo, https://wiki.debian.org/wl#Installation |
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| 13:30.36 | explo | Shadow_7: ASUS WMI generic driver |
| 13:31.42 | explo | markybob: ive installed this one :S |
| 13:32.11 | explo | without the bridge it works fine - when i add the br0 it doesnt :S |
| 13:32.50 | Shadow_7 | explo: are you using the ebtables part of br0 |
| 13:33.00 | teraflops | explo: afaik your wireless nick has to be joines to the wireless network prior adding it ti the bridge |
| 13:33.05 | teraflops | to the* |
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| 13:33.39 | teraflops | well what a mess... your wireless nick has to be joined to the wireless network prior adding it to the bridge |
| 13:33.47 | Shadow_7 | you have to nat now. something broke between 2.6.32 and 2.6.34 that breaks br0 without nat |
| 13:33.52 | explo | Shadow_7: i dont know :S |
| 13:34.15 | Shadow_7 | ebtables NATs the MAC addy |
| 13:34.23 | explo | teraflops: im in the wlan and then i add the bridge - but in the interfaces file is no wlan0 just eth0 |
| 13:34.28 | Shadow_7 | since routes are more grumpy these days |
| 13:34.33 | Shadow_7 | routers* |
| 13:34.40 | teraflops | explo: I do nat with wireless nick i have a custom /etc/qemu-ifup that performs pretty well |
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| 13:35.38 | teraflops | explo: explo you mixing /etc/network/interfaces with networkmanager? |
| 13:36.04 | teraflops | why the hell do I say nick if it's nic ... |
| 13:36.09 | explo | teraflops: looks like *bangs head against wall* - crap |
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| 13:37.03 | explo | ok - im redoing my things - disable networkmanager and start using only /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:37.07 | teraflops | explo: as I said the wireless has to be up and joined to the wireless network prior adding it to the bridge |
| 13:37.25 | Shadow_7 | or disable interfaces except for lo |
| 13:37.32 | explo | now i get it |
| 13:37.40 | teraflops | explo: yeah just pink only one method :P |
| 13:37.43 | Shadow_7 | nm is supposed to make it "easy" *cough* |
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| 13:37.51 | teraflops | pick* |
| 13:38.08 | AndreeeCZ | hello! I have a dhcp server (debian) and a dhcp client (also debian). When i set a static IP on the client, it has that IP, but after a while (~10min) the client drops its static IP and get a new one assigned from DHCP. How can i prevent this? |
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| 13:38.41 | explo | ok thank you all for your help - if i get it up and running / or not ^^ im coming back to you - THANK YOU |
| 13:38.49 | Shadow_7 | AndreeeCZ: extend the lease from 3600 seconds to 36000 seconds |
| 13:39.13 | teraflops | explo: but as I see I believe your wifi nic accepts bridge so you are a lucky man/woman |
| 13:39.28 | teraflops | explo: np good luck |
| 13:40.35 | teraflops | Shadow_7: or set fixed ip addresses in the dhcp server configuation |
| 13:40.44 | teraflops | r* |
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| 13:42.42 | teraflops | heh sounds like a hack to me that two dhcpd instances are needed if you want dhcpv6 and dhcpv4 |
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| 13:44.02 | Shadow_7 | bubblegum, popsickle sticks, and duct tape run the internet |
| 13:44.17 | teraflops | heh |
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| 13:45.06 | DoctorD90 | come back...come back on debootstrap :D |
| 13:45.28 | teraflops | nah dhcpd4@eth0.service and dhcpd6@eth0.service is ok but sounds hackish |
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| 13:53.18 | gonzalo2 | Hi!! I boot a Virtual Machine (virtualbox) with debian, but it not detect graphics... what would be the problem?? thanks |
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| 13:53.45 | abrotman | gonzalo2: not detect graphics when? |
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| 13:58.08 | techie28 | Im getting failed to load libpepflashplayer.so |
| 13:58.24 | techie28 | need to create a symlink |
| 13:58.28 | techie28 | how to do that please? |
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| 13:59.09 | gonzalo2 | in /var/log/Xorg.0.log "no devices detected", "no screens found" |
| 13:59.20 | Shadow_7 | techie28: ln -s existing_file new_file |
| 13:59.49 | gonzalo2 | when I boot the virtual machine with a live iso |
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| 14:00.19 | abrotman | gonzalo2: did you install 'xorg' ? |
| 14:00.21 | Shadow_7 | gonzalo2: the virtual machine probably needs to allow hardware passthrough for the graphics card |
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| 14:06.22 | AndreeeCZ | Shadow_7, wouldn't this just prolong the time until the IP gets reassigned? |
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| 14:08.28 | gonzalo2 | yes, "xorg" is installed |
| 14:08.38 | Shadow_7 | AndreeeCZ: yes... |
| 14:09.09 | gonzalo2 | to allow hardware passthrough for the graphics card?? and how can I do this?? |
| 14:10.19 | Shadow_7 | gonzalo2: depends on the virtual machine in use |
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| 14:11.25 | teraflops | gonzalo2: with virtualbox? lol? |
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| 14:11.48 | gonzalo2 | Shadow_7: it is a debian 7!! and yes, it is virtualbox!! xD |
| 14:11.54 | techie28 | I searched libpepflash.so in the filesystem |
| 14:11.59 | techie28 | no results found |
| 14:12.04 | techie28 | means not installed? |
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| 14:12.53 | Shadow_7 | techie28: apt-file find pepperflash |
| 14:13.14 | teraflops | gonzalo2: use qemu-kvm for gpu passthrough, even doing this way success is not granted. |
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| 14:14.29 | Shadow_7 | techie28: exists as /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so |
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| 14:15.47 | techie28 | I think I dont have apt-file installed |
| 14:15.59 | Shadow_7 | it's not installed by default |
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| 14:16.47 | techie28 | I opened usr/lib its all empty |
| 14:17.00 | Shadow_7 | techie28: /usr/lib/ |
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| 14:20.47 | techie28 | I can install apt-file using apt-get? |
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| 14:21.43 | Shadow_7 | yes... and then you need to apt-file update |
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| 14:21.50 | Shadow_7 | to populate it's database |
| 14:22.01 | techie28 | I cant locate package for that |
| 14:22.38 | Shadow_7 | apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update |
| 14:22.46 | awal1 | ,v apt-file |
| 14:22.47 | judd | Package: apt-file on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.4.0; wheezy: 2.5.1; stretch: 2.5.4; sid: 2.5.4; jessie: 2.5.4; experimental: 3.0~exp1 |
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| 14:24.19 | constantin | hi guys, got a weird problem here...ibus daemon is running and is as far as i can see configured. but when i try to change the input method nothing happens. im running jessie without systemd. |
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| 14:28.03 | gonzalo2 | teraflops: and how I can do this with qemu-kvm?? you know?? |
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| 14:30.14 | teraflops | gonzalo2: i tried a couple of times ... with latest kernels and qemu not in debian 7 to be fair |
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| 14:30.57 | teraflops | gonzalo2: just google for it and get a better idea |
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| 14:32.15 | gonzalo2 | teraflops: thanks |
| 14:32.27 | teraflops | np |
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| 14:37.26 | johnfg | There shouldn't be anything in /var/backups, from my previous install that I should need, is there? Will that existing data mess up the jessie system? |
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| 14:40.21 | johnfg | So, can I just rsync all of /var/backups to the older /var/backups mounted on another mount point? |
| 14:40.55 | constantin | hi guys, I have the following problem with ibus - the daemon is installed (with input methods) but I have not been able to input other languages (neither in console nor in gtk apps). even if I switch to say chinese or russian all I get is latin characters |
| 14:40.59 | constantin | does anybody know a solution for that? the system I am running is debian jessie with (sysv istead of systemd) |
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| 14:41.51 | awal1 | gonzalo2: what do you want run qemu-kvm in your Wheezy? |
| 14:42.04 | techie28 | Shadow_7 : it is there already /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libfreshwrapper-pepperflash.so |
| 14:42.53 | awal1 | ,v kvm |
| 14:42.54 | judd | Package: kvm on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze11; squeeze-security: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 1:0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 1:1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u7~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 1:1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u11; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1:1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u11 |
| 14:43.13 | awal1 | ,v qemu-kvm |
| 14:43.14 | judd | Package: qemu-kvm on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze11; squeeze-security: 0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u7~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u8; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u11; jessie: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u1; wheezy-backports: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u4~bpo70+1; jessie- |
| 14:43.15 | judd | security: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u4; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u4; sid: 1:2.5+dfsg-1; stretch: 1:2.5+dfsg-1 |
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| 14:45.05 | franz_koopa | when trying to start "Adobe Digital Editions" with Wine, it says: fixme:ole:RemUnknown_QueryInterface No interface for iid {00000019-0000-0000-c000-000000000046} |
| 14:45.08 | franz_koopa | what's the matter? |
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| 14:45.50 | markybob | franz_koopa, try #winehq ...we wouldn't know. |
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| 14:46.23 | franz_koopa | thanks for a tip |
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| 14:57.17 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, :D it works :D yea :D now i have done this: pastebin.com/pHw63d1r |
| 14:57.25 | DoctorD90 | now i have to install packages :D |
| 14:57.39 | DoctorD90 | to install only "terminal" mode, headless, what i have to install? |
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| 15:02.48 | johnfg | How can I find out what modes are available for the grub graphical terminal? |
| 15:03.48 | bazhang | #grub johnfg |
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| 15:06.33 | gr8 | when I try to run a python application (Tribler), I get the following error on debian which I did not find any help for on the net: "ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/_gdi_.so: symbol _ZN14wxGnomePrintDC13GetResolutionEv, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 with link time reference" |
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| 15:07.22 | johnfg | bazhang: Thanks. I should have thought of it (although it us for this jessie install:-)) |
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| 15:10.02 | jelly | I've plugged in a new external 3TB disk into a jessie system, removed the preexisting NTFS partition with gdisk, and am trying to create a new lvm volue group on it. However, pvcreate /dev/sde fails with: "Device /dev/sde not found (or ignored by filtering)." dmesg, lvm.conf and ls -ld /dev/sde at http://paste.debian.net/356729/ |
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| 15:11.47 | jelly | note the absence of any filter = [ ] from /etc/lvm/lvm.conf |
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| 15:17.17 | techie28 | The software installed goes in /usr/lib/ |
| 15:17.19 | techie28 | ? |
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| 15:19.03 | markybob | techie28, dpkg -L package to see where the packages installs things to |
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| 15:24.55 | techie28 | https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages |
| 15:24.59 | techie28 | I cant open this URL |
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| 15:25.12 | techie28 | my internet is working fine |
| 15:25.27 | techie28 | for other sites |
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| 15:26.16 | teraflops | techie28: does it happen with other https* sites? |
| 15:26.33 | techie28 | FaceBook works fine |
| 15:27.13 | teraflops | is that a yes? |
| 15:27.37 | techie28 | yea it is on https |
| 15:27.42 | techie28 | I mean facebook |
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| 15:29.16 | _Fremen_ | hello |
| 15:29.34 | _Fremen_ | is there a usage statistic for different desktop environment usage within debian? |
| 15:29.59 | AndreeeCZ | Shadow_7, but i want the ip never to be reassigned. If i set it as static i want to remain like this forever.. ? |
| 15:30.08 | techie28 | https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages just that seems to be loading forever |
| 15:30.27 | techie28 | teraflops: is that right? |
| 15:30.45 | teraflops | techie28: is your system up-to-date? also what does mean "cant open"? |
| 15:30.54 | guampa | hi, using debian sid when I try to install wine32 it fails because a dependency chain which ends in libgnutls-deb0-28:i386. However when I try to install this lib, apt wants to remove half of my packages (including cups and other important stuff) |
| 15:31.47 | teraflops | techie28: and you can open other pages from https://wiki.debian.org/? |
| 15:31.59 | DoctorD90 | Logg, Amun_Ra Shadow_7 wtf??? https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 at the end of age ?? boot encrypted? 0o |
| 15:32.13 | teraflops | techie28: may be your isp/country blocks that site idk so many variables |
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| 15:33.00 | techie28 | no https://wiki.debian.org/ doesnt loads either |
| 15:33.45 | frenchie | Hi, I'm trying to use redshift or xgamma on sid, it changes my display for a second and then comes back to normal, any idea on a resident process that override the gamma change ? |
| 15:33.54 | guampa | how come something like wine32 can't be installed alongside with CUPS and such stuff? |
| 15:34.02 | teraflops | ok seems to be bloked |
| 15:34.07 | teraflops | blocked* |
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| 15:34.20 | techie28 | dont know why would that be |
| 15:34.23 | frenchie | running lxde |
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| 15:34.30 | teraflops | neither do I |
| 15:34.34 | xingu | jelly: either wipe the parition table or pvcreate on sde1? |
| 15:34.39 | teraflops | techie28: tried via proxy? |
| 15:34.47 | techie28 | ni |
| 15:34.49 | techie28 | no |
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| 15:35.16 | teraflops | techie28: just guessing is hard to believe an isp blocking wiki.debian.org |
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| 15:35.24 | techie28 | ya right.. |
| 15:35.29 | techie28 | baffles me |
| 15:35.39 | xingu | jelly: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/01/msg00394.html and follow-up ? |
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| 15:36.16 | teraflops | techie28: also tried changing your dns? |
| 15:36.25 | techie28 | not yet |
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| 15:36.34 | explo | teraflops: Thank you - the issue was mixing netw-mgr and interfaces :P |
| 15:36.41 | teraflops | explo: ah nice |
| 15:36.47 | teraflops | np |
| 15:37.10 | techie28 | teraflops: I see Failed to load libpepflashplayer.so in a webpage..I did apt-file find libpepflashplayer.so |
| 15:37.21 | techie28 | it moved to next line without showing anything |
| 15:37.36 | techie28 | is this some missing installation? |
| 15:37.40 | teraflops | techie28: afaik wiki.debian.org does not use flash |
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| 15:38.04 | teraflops | techie28: tried with another web browser? |
| 15:38.06 | techie28 | no this is a separate issue |
| 15:38.18 | jelly | xingu: I've nuked the sde1, but existence of an empty partition table prevents usage for some reason, with a really misleading error message |
| 15:38.19 | TheSin | can someone tell me why asterisk was removed form stretch on nov 3rd and still has no replacment? |
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| 15:38.27 | techie28 | I had mozilla with Adove Flash..I was trying to get pepflash |
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| 15:38.54 | teraflops | techie28: i meant for the non loading wiki issue |
| 15:39.05 | xingu | jelly: yes that's what I was implying too, either really wipe the partition table itself (with dd over the first few LBA's) or pvcreate on sde1 instead... was my thinking |
| 15:39.13 | jelly | xingu: writing zeros over the GPT does wonders. |
| 15:39.33 | xingu | jelly: agreed on the misleading error messages, perhaps some test in the source code is getting confused by an api/abi change or who knows what |
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| 15:40.40 | mtn | TheSin: https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html |
| 15:40.54 | techie28 | teraflops: yes it does loads on chromium |
| 15:41.00 | teraflops | ^ |
| 15:41.08 | TheSin | mtn, I'm there but it doens't say why testing is missing it |
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| 15:41.34 | mtn | TheSin: did you find the package and read the info there? must not be fixed yet. |
| 15:41.51 | techie28 | ^ |
| 15:41.56 | teraflops | heh |
| 15:42.04 | franz_koopa | okay, managed to install adobe digital editions successfully with the help of winetricks (which has an automatic install for that program). now i have a book open, next i need to crack that shit so that i could print it |
| 15:42.19 | TheSin | ahh I just found it missing bdepends |
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| 15:42.32 | TheSin | thanks mtn, guess I need to figure out why those are missing then ;) |
| 15:42.41 | mtn | TheSin: welcome |
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| 15:45.52 | techie28 | what does ^ means? |
| 15:46.21 | dvs | techie28: look at the line before |
| 15:46.40 | techie28 | ok :) |
| 15:46.52 | houndedshrue | or to the power of |
| 15:46.59 | techie28 | how about the pepflash installation? |
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| 15:48.14 | teraflops | techie28: about flash Ive no idea since I avoid using it |
| 15:48.50 | techie28 | then what do you do? |
| 15:48.59 | techie28 | I mean for the websites those require flash player |
| 15:49.05 | techie28 | not all have HTML5 player |
| 15:49.08 | teraflops | I avoid them too |
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| 15:49.31 | techie28 | you dont watch videos? |
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| 15:49.49 | techie28 | im sorry just asking |
| 15:49.51 | teraflops | techie28: yes, I do mpv + youtube-dl |
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| 15:51.13 | OneST8 | http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=53&product_id=6761&version_id=0&page=1&hasexp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&month=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=673&sha=ac2a72f983d2b7488412b74b424af6da7078c21a |
| 15:51.19 | techie28 | it can run for any site? |
| 15:51.24 | techie28 | or Youtube only? |
| 15:51.29 | glongo | hi guys, I've installed debian jessie on my laptop but audio is not working, the audio card is recognized but maybe there is a conflict with hdmi port. any ideas? |
| 15:51.31 | DoctorD90 | ok..all seems to be well installed..now just remain grub2 :P Shadow_7 i will wait you for it and fstab :P |
| 15:51.53 | dvs | !tell glongo about alsa checklist |
| 15:51.54 | OneST8 | techie28, that link is why I never allow flash unless super important |
| 15:51.56 | teraflops | techie28: not any. but it supports a bunch of sites |
| 15:52.34 | abrotman | glongo: tried pavucontrol to select which device? |
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| 15:52.42 | blind | Google Chrome (the proprietary one, not Chromium) has its own built-in, sandboxed flashplayer. That's what I use if I *need* to use a website that uses Flash. |
| 15:52.43 | techie28 | thanks OneST8 |
| 15:52.51 | techie28 | ill read it |
| 15:52.59 | johnfg | any idea why synaptic pkg manager won't start? I can't find anything in logs... |
| 15:53.42 | abrotman | blind: that's the pepper flash plugin |
| 15:54.00 | mtn | johnfg: did you try it from the command line? might see some errors |
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| 15:55.52 | johnfg | mtn: I just did, and no, it seems to be running fine. |
| 15:56.04 | mtn | johnfg: so it came up ok? |
| 15:56.18 | johnfg | it did run from my mate desktop, but now it doesn't. mtn, yes it came up fine. |
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| 15:56.39 | jelly | xingu: fwiw, #lvm says upstream fixed it in the meantime <kabi_> # pvcreate /dev/loop0 <kabi_> WARNING: dos signature detected on /dev/loop0 at offset 510. Wipe it? [y/n]: |
| 15:56.40 | mtn | johnfg: so I am confused. it won't start, but it starts up and runs fine? |
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| 15:56.49 | johnfg | mtn: Could there be an old lock on it in my $HOME? |
| 15:57.04 | mtn | johnfg: a reboot would get rid of it, or should |
| 15:57.07 | johnfg | mtn: It won't start from the System menu. |
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| 15:57.10 | balgarath | i'm looking to install varnish 3.x on jessie, but the version in the package manager is 4.x - do I need to compile 3.x from source or is there an easier way to install it? |
| 15:57.17 | glongo | abrotman: no |
| 15:57.19 | johnfg | mtn: It does start from the cli. |
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| 15:57.36 | mtn | johnfg: well, if it runs fine from the cli, but not the menu, there is something wrong with the menu enter |
| 15:57.38 | mtn | entry |
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| 16:00.40 | johnfg | I wonder, since it did work, if maybe I should get rid of the $HOME/.aptitude? |
| 16:00.51 | abrotman | glongo: good place to start |
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| 16:01.05 | glongo | abrotman: tried, but without any success |
| 16:01.15 | abrotman | glongo: does it list both devices? |
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| 16:01.31 | johnfg | abrotman: any ideas about synaptic pkg manager not starting from the menu? |
| 16:01.43 | abrotman | johnfg: run it from the console, look for error messages? |
| 16:02.23 | glongo | abrotman: yes, I see: speakers and analogic |
| 16:02.34 | AndreeeCZ | Shadow_7, ping |
| 16:02.35 | abrotman | for output devices? |
| 16:02.47 | glongo | yes |
| 16:03.05 | johnfg | abrotman: no problems from the cli: I run synaptic-pkexec and it asks for authentication, and runs. |
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| 16:04.03 | johnfg | I click on the mate menu item under System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager, and get nothing. |
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| 16:05.10 | johnfg | is there not a systemd entry for vino or for vnc4server? I was wanting to look at the installed files as the reason I wanted synaptic. |
| 16:05.32 | johnfg | If not, do I need to start them with /etc/init.d? |
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| 16:10.25 | glongo | abrotman: any other idea? |
| 16:10.52 | abrotman | glongo: you tried both, neither work? |
| 16:11.04 | abrotman | glongo: follow what dvs sent you from the bot .. validate some other bits |
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| 16:11.07 | johnfg | I gotta head out, but will join again from my other office. |
| 16:11.17 | glongo | abrotman: neither work. I've tried also to add the user to pulse group |
| 16:11.25 | glongo | abrotman: checked what dvs sent |
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| 16:13.20 | glongo | abrotman: trying aplay from root now: ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access denied |
| 16:13.41 | abrotman | as root? |
| 16:14.11 | glongo | yes |
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| 16:14.36 | abrotman | glongo: I'd probably start reading system logs |
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| 16:15.04 | Shadow_7 | pulse wants to be used by the person who starts it |
| 16:15.23 | Shadow_7 | otherwise you have to do that networking thing and configure "other" users to access pulse over the network |
| 16:15.27 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, :D |
| 16:15.34 | DoctorD90 | welcome back my master :D |
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| 16:15.47 | DoctorD90 | succesfully installed "more or less" all packages :D |
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| 16:16.15 | glongo | abrotman: from dmesg: [ 20.695121] input: HDA Intel PCH Front Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input9, nothing else |
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| 16:16.17 | DoctorD90 | now i need only to setup grub2 in boot partition, and fstab with encrypted partitions |
| 16:16.32 | abrotman | glongo: that seems okay |
| 16:16.43 | DoctorD90 | and btw, I would ask yo about this little strange: https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 |
| 16:16.53 | balgarath | i'm looking to install varnish 3.x on jessie, but the version in the package manager is 4.x - do I need to compile 3.x from source or is there an easier way to install it via package manager? |
| 16:17.01 | DoctorD90 | its says that is possible configure encrypted boot 0o |
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| 16:18.26 | balgarath | looks like a varnish 3.0 for debian here: http://repo.varnish-cache.org/debian/dists/jessie/varnish-3.0 but not sure how to get it installed |
| 16:18.57 | LucaTM | Hello everyone! :) |
| 16:19.13 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: seems like bottom of the page says how |
| 16:19.29 | DoctorD90 | so it is possible? :D |
| 16:19.42 | DoctorD90 | great :D |
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| 16:19.55 | Shadow_7 | it describes a migration method to convert your existing /boot to an encrypted one. |
| 16:20.06 | DoctorD90 | i will do it :D but now...i'd need a little help about fstab and move partitions to right palces :P |
| 16:20.21 | Shadow_7 | although like origami instructions... skips the actual silver spoon steps to backup / restore / ..... |
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| 16:20.43 | DoctorD90 | and im finding thatgrub stay on ly in ext2, but here i findout ext4 |
| 16:20.57 | glongo | I have no idea |
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| 16:21.53 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, here: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto at theend they claim that grub can boot form a ext4 |
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| 16:23.42 | techie28 | apt-get autoremove removes the packages itself |
| 16:23.53 | techie28 | how does it determines which ones are useless? |
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| 16:25.13 | Amun_Ra | DoctorD90: grub2 can boot from ext4 |
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| 16:26.41 | DoctorD90 | Amun_Ra, great :D so now i have only to move up home in /home |
| 16:26.58 | Amun_Ra | techie28: for example - when you install pkg A and it depends on B (and installs it) and you remove pkg A and nothing depends on B anymore |
| 16:27.04 | DoctorD90 | and stup fstab :P may I ask yu an help :P in new to fstab :P |
| 16:27.27 | Amun_Ra | mhm |
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| 16:27.59 | teraflops | techie28: dpkg tracks dependencies if you thing youre smarter just tell it to keep the packages |
| 16:28.25 | techie28 | ok |
| 16:28.48 | techie28 | I was windows user before |
| 16:29.03 | Amun_Ra | techie28: if you want to mark package to stay installed do apt-get install pkgname |
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| 16:32.16 | techie28 | peperflash wont work with mozilla? |
| 16:32.17 | teraflops | techie28: nah not meant to be rude, I apologize |
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| 16:35.41 | spicyramen | hi all, newbie question, Im trying to install https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/libgrpc-dev, but when I run sudo apt-get install libgrpc-dev, I get: "E: Unable to locate package libgrpc-dev" |
| 16:35.44 | spicyramen | any ideas? |
| 16:36.26 | ChrisH | spicyramen: backports activated in your sources.list? |
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| 16:36.38 | Fjorgynn | Happy Birthday Linus |
| 16:37.28 | spicyramen | Hi Chris, not sure how to check that |
| 16:38.02 | spicyramen | found it |
| 16:38.05 | spicyramen | one sec |
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| 16:38.32 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, to install grub in /boot and tell him that syste is in another partition, what i have to do? |
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| 16:39.32 | cluelessperson | question, so I'm performing a make install, and I believe it builds successfully. How do I output an actual deb file for this? |
| 16:39.35 | spicyramen | ChrisH, that did it |
| 16:39.36 | explo | teraflops: still here ? |
| 16:39.41 | spicyramen | Thank you! |
| 16:39.53 | spicyramen | @ChrisH thank u! |
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| 16:42.08 | teraflops | explo: yes |
| 16:42.28 | explo | teraflops: doesnt work :S im not connected through br0 but wlan0 :S |
| 16:42.41 | explo | teraflops: but that works now :P |
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| 16:43.13 | explo | if i add the br0 BOTH ifaces get the same IP but br0 has no connectivity |
| 16:43.19 | explo | and i cant figure out why :S |
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| 16:45.03 | explo | teraflops: http://pastebin.com/6EEWgBbq |
| 16:45.23 | achylles | I am trying to install ath10k firmware for my computer, I have tried backports. It compiles, but after rebooting the drive does not load. I have tried many ways... but, to no avail :( |
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| 16:45.53 | explo | teraflops: if i set the wlan0 to manual like the tutorials all say it doesnt connect to my network at all :S |
| 16:46.05 | achylles | https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath10k/backports |
| 16:46.28 | achylles | this is the info I am using... |
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| 16:46.56 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell achylles about ath10k |
| 16:47.04 | teraflops | explo: you want to setup wireless in /etc/network/interfces? |
| 16:47.07 | incal | how can I find out if my DVD is capable of burning double-layer DVDs? |
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| 16:47.17 | ChrisH | achylles: there are some more links like bug reports, in t |
| 16:47.32 | explo | teraflops: "want" - thats how i found a solution :S |
| 16:47.49 | explo | teraflops: here: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 16:48.21 | jelly | incal: no idea, but maybe dvd+rw-mediainfo will show relevant info |
| 16:48.42 | teraflops | explo: yes, just set it manually and be sure you especify the passphrase and the ap there |
| 16:49.01 | jelly | incal: comes with the package named dvd+rw-tools |
| 16:49.31 | incal | jelly: got it, it says: INQUIRY: [HP ][DVD Writer 740b ][HI24] |
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| 16:49.54 | explo | teraflops: ap ? not the ESSID ? |
| 16:50.25 | achylles | ChrisH, I have seem, I think, most of them... |
| 16:50.30 | Shadow_7 | explo: essid and passphrase most times... if you're in a hotel, you want to set the ap mac for the strongest signal |
| 16:50.38 | achylles | 3 days, trying... |
| 16:50.40 | achylles | sigh |
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| 16:50.52 | jrcharney | hi everyone. trying to get a nextwindow touchscreen working using nwfermi/evdev drivers. seems to be working somewhat OK but when i click somewhere, the pc acts as if i've dragged my finger between the previous location and the current location. calibration is accurate but i cant stop this "dragging" - any ideas? |
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| 16:51.07 | explo | Shadow_7: oh ok - just got one AP - lets try it again :S |
| 16:51.42 | Shadow_7 | you can git the firmwares from kernel.org and put them in the appropriate /lib/firmware/ locations |
| 16:51.47 | achylles | ChrisH, I am using Stretch with the newest kernel, I think, and it does not load! |
| 16:51.49 | teraflops | explo: err im talking from my memory use the wiki |
| 16:52.17 | jrcharney | i also compiled and installed a nextwindow Xorg driver...but X insists on using evdev driver.. is there a way to force it to use the driver i just compiled? tried making a config file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d but no avail. |
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| 16:52.47 | Shadow_7 | should be able to use strings on the module in /lib/modules/... for your kernel to find out where that is. |
| 16:53.06 | explo | teraflops: np - ^^ lets try to get this thing up and running till midnight (6 h to go) |
| 16:53.15 | teraflops | heh |
| 16:53.38 | ChrisH | achylles: checked https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724970 for details where the firmware is packaged? |
| 16:53.40 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/724970 in firmware-atheros (closed): «firmware-atheros: firmware for ath10k devices missing»; severity: important; opened: 2013-09-30; last modified: 2015-11-17. |
| 16:53.41 | Shadow_7 | I tend to do my wifi from the CLI without interfaces or networkmanager. |
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| 16:54.37 | jrcharney | anyone? :\ |
| 16:54.51 | Shadow_7 | wpa_passphrase ESSID password > wpa.conf ...then... wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211,wext -iwlan0 -cwpa.conf ...then... dhclient -4 -v wlan0 |
| 16:56.02 | teraflops | wpa_supplicant -B -i <interface> -D nl80211 -c <(wpa_passphrase <essid> <passphrase>) && dhclient ... :p |
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| 16:57.18 | incal | jelly: found it, one can do this with k3b (menu: Settings -> Configure k3b -> Devices) - perhaps it can output the sama data with a CLI command as well... |
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| 16:57.44 | Shadow_7 | although I kind of prefer to ethernet dongle it most times. Uses less RAM and less CPU cycles. |
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| 16:58.29 | Shadow_7 | plus less prone to collapsing cell towers or jammers. |
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| 16:59.13 | itaipu | hi, I'm using debian stretch, having a problem trying to compiling a trivial C program; it does not find stdio.h : readchar.c:2:19: fatal error: sdtio.h: No such file or directory |
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| 16:59.48 | explo | teraflops: Shadow_7: FYI - when i use the interface config form my last Paste with wlan0 to manuel: http://pastebin.com/70BfwxYE |
| 16:59.52 | explo | *manual |
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| 17:00.29 | itaipu | I check it and its there: |
| 17:00.32 | itaipu | ls -l /usr/include/stdio.h |
| 17:00.33 | itaipu | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31365 Dec 10 21:39 /usr/include/stdio.h |
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| 17:00.42 | Shadow_7 | I've had quirky drivers where I've had to set the ESSID manually and twice for it to take |
| 17:00.56 | itaipu | so I got confused with gcc giving me this error. |
| 17:01.02 | teraflops | explo: sorry I cannot deal with pastebin liks |
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| 17:01.59 | teraflops | I get banned or just it complains because js or my ublock |
| 17:02.07 | Shadow_7 | explo: ip addr list && ip route list |
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| 17:02.26 | cluelessperson | okay, so I did dpkg -i package, and it says it installed, no error, but I don't see any of the install files |
| 17:02.28 | Shadow_7 | explo: or old school... ifconfig -a && route -n |
| 17:02.30 | itaipu | I'm sure that should something wrong with the linker; any help ? |
| 17:02.58 | explo | teraflops: what do you use ? |
| 17:03.07 | awal1_ | I'm just lost here. I'm trying to download a full playlist from youtube (44 videos) but the 14th one seems to be copyrighted an youtube-dl won't download it. How to download the full playlist excluding video nº X? |
| 17:03.16 | ChrisH | itaipu: show your hello-world example, the compiler call and the results in one paste on paste.debian.net this might lead to an answer. |
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| 17:05.26 | explo | Shadow_7: teraflops: http://paste.debian.net/356745/ |
| 17:05.40 | itaipu | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/356746/ |
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| 17:06.14 | explo | sry - didnt save to USB |
| 17:06.17 | awal1_ | Problem solved with -i option :) |
| 17:07.48 | explo | Shadow_7: http://paste.debian.net/356747/ |
| 17:07.54 | ChrisH | itaipu: typo line 3 sdtio.h vs. stdio.h :) |
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| 17:08.22 | itaipu | ChrisH: hahaha ;) thks man, sometimes we get blind :) |
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| 17:08.34 | blind | why do you get me? |
| 17:09.09 | ChrisH | itaipu: :) |
| 17:09.49 | nephro | Hi guys, is it possible to upgrade from wheezy to jessie without reinstalling the distro? |
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| 17:10.10 | Shadow_7 | explo: not seeing any IP addresses assigned. kind of hard to send packets if they don't have a source or a destination |
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| 17:11.02 | explo | Shadow_7: but why :S |
| 17:11.24 | Shadow_7 | explo: because you didn't use dhclient or assign them |
| 17:12.01 | awal1_ | nephro: sure |
| 17:12.17 | nephro | awal1_: are there any official docs on that? |
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| 17:13.38 | Shadow_7 | explo: normally you'd do something like... dhclient -4 -v eth0 ..or.. ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up && route add default gateway 192.168.2.1 |
| 17:13.45 | explo | Shadow_7: i redo the steps you send me - maybe i got a type etc. |
| 17:13.50 | explo | *typo |
| 17:14.19 | jwd | a simple "ifconfig eth0" will show you if you have an ip assigned |
| 17:14.32 | Shadow_7 | explo: and then there's DNS stuff which dhcp takes care of, but manually does not |
| 17:15.03 | explo | Shadow_7: the dhcp to the brige or the wlan iface ? |
| 17:15.10 | jwd | i would look for the most basic info first. is there any address assigned at all |
| 17:15.47 | awal1_ | nephro: that's so simple. make a backup of all your data in an external drive. remove packs you have installed from outside official debian repos, check if your Wheezy is up-to-date, then point your Debian repos to Jessie, then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, also apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. that's all |
| 17:16.30 | nephro | ok awal1_ I'll try, cheerio, how do I remove the external packages? I don't even remember if I've installed any |
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| 17:17.46 | awal1_ | nephro: https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150426 and check "Upgrading Debian" section |
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| 17:18.47 | awal1_ | I don't know how to check that, how to find the packs, libs.... that aren't installed from debian official repos |
| 17:20.41 | awal1_ | nephro: you may want to try with "dpkg-query -l" , it may be helpful |
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| 17:21.11 | franz_koopa | got so very strange problem... i'm supposed to crack an epub-file and i have it currently open on Adobe Digital Editions program. according to cracking instructions i should now crab the actual epub-file from where the program itself shows that it's stored on HD. But... there's no any epub file there. Actually, 'find' command confirms that there's no any epub files on my HDs. so wtf... how i can get th |
| 17:21.17 | franz_koopa | e epub file which is currently open at Digital Editions..? |
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| 17:22.07 | teraflops | explo: why dont you set all ifaces down, and do it by hand till you figure out? so bung up wlan0 by hand join the ap by hand and run dhclient then create the bridge joint the wanl0 to it give an ip to the bridge and set the dns? |
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| 17:22.53 | teraflops | s/bring* |
| 17:23.08 | jelly | franz_koopa: is this legal to do in your place of residence? |
| 17:23.08 | explo | teraflops: so the wlan0 need an ip showing up and the br0 too ? |
| 17:23.24 | franz_koopa | jelly: i don't know or care |
| 17:23.39 | teraflops | explo: the wlan0 des not need an ip adress but it does need to be associated |
| 17:24.03 | teraflops | ... erm with the ap |
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| 17:24.10 | awal1_ | nephro: also try dpkg-query -l '*' | less and dpkg -l | grep '^.i' the last one should be more helpful because it shows you the packs only available from debian repos also |
| 17:24.30 | jelly | franz_koopa: then we probably can't help, sorry. Freenode tries to be very strict about illegal activities -- ask in some other irc network |
| 17:24.32 | awal1_ | hmm, he left :D |
| 17:24.34 | balgarath | to answer my previous question, I dug around and found a .deb file at http://repo.varnish-cache.org/debian/pool/varnish-3.0/v/varnish/varnish_3.0.7-1~jessie_amd64.deb |
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| 17:25.27 | explo | teraflops: ok not sure ive got that - ifup wlan0 - get an ip for wlan0 with dhclient - but how do i "create" the bridge ? |
| 17:25.59 | Shadow_7 | explo: worry about the bridge later |
| 17:26.39 | teraflops | explo: about the ip part for wlan0 i guess is not needed but anyway it'll lose its ip when joining to the bridge so it does not matter |
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| 17:27.11 | explo | ok when i manualy do the dhclient -4 -v wlan0 it gets an ip an works like a charm (can ping to google etc.) |
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| 17:29.05 | teraflops | explo: whats the difference of doing a bridge with brctl vs doing it with vde? |
| 17:29.55 | Shadow_7 | bridge via brctl broke after 2.6.32 kernels (at least for me). Most times I have to do forwarding with the MASQUERADE iptables rule |
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| 17:30.19 | teraflops | explo: i mean if your wireless nic supoorts bridge just take care about wlan0 joins the wireless network prior adding it to the bridge, tha's all |
| 17:30.34 | teraflops | Shadow_7: it works fine here |
| 17:30.45 | teraflops | debian jessie |
| 17:30.59 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: via the very dated howto's out there? or your own custom way? |
| 17:31.15 | explo | teraflops_ but how do i add it :S to me a bridge needs two interfaces or am i just not knowing a big thing ? |
| 17:31.19 | teraflops | Shadow_7: via brctl |
| 17:31.46 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: creating the br0 interface works fine. But going ethernet to wireless interfaces broke |
| 17:32.04 | teraflops | explo: i not aware of that vde thing all that I see is that you have br0 there :P |
| 17:32.33 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: I used to be able to dhclient -4 -v br0 (like I would with wlan0), but that no longer works. |
| 17:32.37 | jelly | Shadow_7: wifi is special that way, but it's not bridge's fault |
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| 17:32.44 | teraflops | Shadow_7: but that's related crappy wireless driver or just not joined to the wireless essid |
| 17:33.00 | Shadow_7 | jelly: it USED TO work just fine. But something between 2.6.32 and 2.6.34 changed it |
| 17:33.05 | teraflops | Shadow_7: I just avoid doing bridge with wifi nics |
| 17:33.25 | explo | teraflops: is it possible to make an br interface with just one "real" interface ? |
| 17:33.26 | jelly | Shadow_7: with same hw and driver? |
| 17:33.27 | teraflops | Shadow_7: ah, no clue then |
| 17:33.31 | Shadow_7 | jelly: yes |
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| 17:33.49 | teraflops | explo: nope hehe, hey use nat |
| 17:33.54 | Shadow_7 | probably why ddwrt and most router firmwares hug on to those older kernels |
| 17:33.59 | teraflops | what's rong doing nat? |
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| 17:34.13 | teraflops | hmm |
| 17:34.24 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: with nat you're double nat-ing a lot of times. Which has many issues with many services. |
| 17:34.26 | jwd | a neat way to configure wifi is to create a bond with you wired ethernet card. then you do not need to reconfigure as much as with isolated nets |
| 17:34.56 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: aka will likely break skype and other things |
| 17:34.58 | explo | teraflops: GOT IT - "can´t add wlan0 to br0: Operation not supported" |
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| 17:35.17 | teraflops | I do custom /etc/qemu-ifup never had an issue http://ix.io/lYh |
| 17:35.31 | Shadow_7 | explo: you can override that by forcing ipv4 with iw? been a while.. but still wont work |
| 17:35.44 | teraflops | net tap -net nic,model=virtio ...blah blah |
| 17:36.33 | teraflops | Shadow_7: just use iptables |
| 17:36.53 | teraflops | or hmm i believe theres a qemu thingy |
| 17:37.03 | explo | Shadow_7: :S iw ? |
| 17:37.13 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: I know, I do, but I miss the old br0 days as the bridge traffic didn't register and couldn't be spied on the bridging computer |
| 17:37.23 | Shadow_7 | explo: iw dev wlan0 set 4addr on |
| 17:37.30 | explo | thanks :) |
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| 17:37.34 | franz_koopa | jelly: why this server is called "freenode" then? shouldn't it be called "asslickers-of-authorities-node"? |
| 17:37.36 | Shadow_7 | explo: and then do the brctl with the two interfaces |
| 17:37.57 | teraflops | explo: can´t add wlan0 to br0: Operation not supported? I swear I saw a br0 in your early pastes |
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| 17:38.24 | teraflops | ah I asked you about brctl show ... not installed there? |
| 17:38.42 | explo | teraflops: its there - but this is the manual ifup br0 message :S |
| 17:38.56 | jelly | franz_koopa: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#unlawful |
| 17:39.26 | explo | Shadow_7: iw brings "Operation not supported" :S |
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| 17:40.20 | Shadow_7 | explo: if you were to run a 2.6.32 kernel you would not be having that error... give up on bridge-utils basically |
| 17:40.34 | Shadow_7 | you'll always end up with -j MASQUERADE even with it now |
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| 17:41.03 | teraflops | heh |
| 17:41.32 | explo | ok so back to the iptables NAT approach :) Thank you |
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| 17:44.15 | teraflops | explo: http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking/NAT |
| 17:44.36 | teraflops | net tap -net nic,model= ...blah blah |
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| 17:47.16 | Shadow_7 | I used to bridge br0 style through my dell inspiron 1150, back when the kernels made that transition. Forever broken now. Always got to masquerade and sometimes with ebtables to mangle the NAT. |
| 17:47.23 | fernie | even if you manage to bridge or create some macvtap with wlan interface, most likely your wifi access point does not allow multiple mac addresses. if you are running your wifi adapter as ap, then bridge is ok and usefull |
| 17:47.24 | Shadow_7 | s/NAT/MAC/ |
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| 17:47.49 | Shadow_7 | fernie: we got around that with ebtables bitd |
| 17:49.10 | fernie | Shadow_7: oh yeah that should work, sry didn't catch the whole conversation |
| 17:49.40 | teraflops | explo: hmm if you have and old router openwrt capable you can do e.g client+relayd I used it before for being able to do bridge for the vms in my laptop |
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| 17:54.36 | explo | teraflops: got an raspberry pi as DHCP/Router/Proxy |
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| 17:56.11 | teraflops | hmm |
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| 18:18.04 | dtonal | hi, could anyone help me disabling bluetooth as default after my debian has started? |
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| 18:19.24 | dtonal | i trief "rfkill block bluetooth" and "echo disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth" in the rc.local |
| 18:19.28 | dtonal | -f+d |
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| 18:21.51 | Shadow_7 | dtonal: service bluetooth stop |
| 18:22.15 | dtonal | into the rc.local? |
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| 18:23.41 | AvatarA | systemd-rfkill@.service seems to work for me out of the box |
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| 18:25.07 | dtonal | i will have a try with service bluetooth stop :] |
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| 18:26.16 | Guest4660 | hey this hexchat not too bad |
| 18:26.41 | dtonal | bluetooth is deactivated, thx alot! |
| 18:26.51 | Guest4660 | loads up the log from this # couple days ago |
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| 18:34.21 | okee | Does anyone have a tool they recommend for converting pdf to png/gif, etc? I was looking for something I can use on my system instead of a web based converter. |
| 18:35.05 | jrcharney | sorry nobody answers your questions here |
| 18:35.05 | ubik123 | use convert |
| 18:35.18 | ubik123 | convert foo.pdf foo.png |
| 18:36.17 | ubik123 | you have to install imagemagick |
| 18:36.23 | Shadow_7 | a2ps is good... then open the .ps in gimp |
| 18:37.13 | Shadow_7 | or just read the pdf in okular |
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| 18:58.12 | dimitry7 | Hi guys, I see somehow I deleted directory /etc/postgresql, si I've re-installed postgres package, but the directory still empty |
| 18:58.55 | petn-randall | !confmiss |
| 18:58.55 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 18:58.56 | dimitry7 | there should be a /etc/postgresql/8.4/main |
| 18:58.58 | petn-randall | dimitry7: ^^^^ |
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| 18:59.27 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, ok man, thank you! |
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| 19:05.41 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, didn't work man :S |
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| 19:06.19 | petn-randall | !doesn't work |
| 19:06.20 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 19:06.49 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, I mean, the directory is still empty |
| 19:07.21 | petn-randall | dimitry7: Which package did you reinstall? |
| 19:07.49 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, this one: http://paste.debian.net/356762/ |
| 19:08.17 | dimitry7 | I'm upgrading actually to jessie but I need to run some things there first |
| 19:09.34 | petn-randall | dimitry7: Then you might want to check /query dpkg ucf confmiss |
| 19:10.17 | Shadow_7 | or install the other parts of the package. postgresql-client-common has /etc/postgresql-common/ contents |
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| 19:11.51 | petn-randall | dimitry7: From where to where are you upgrading? postgres 8.4 was only in squeeze. |
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| 19:12.42 | Luticus | So in order to solve an issue with a chipset in my new HTPC I had to upgrade to debian testing, are there any good rss feeds that talk about updates/new packages in testing? right now I only have the DSA feed but would like something specific to what's going on in testing. |
| 19:12.48 | dimitry7 | Yeah I will upgrade the OS, including postgres |
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| 19:14.28 | baum | 's x-server stopped working....=/ |
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| 19:14.46 | Shadow_7 | Use the CLI luke |
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| 19:15.26 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, I did a purge, then an install, nothing, /etc/postgresql is empty |
| 19:15.53 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, this looks good?? |
| 19:15.53 | DoctorD90 | pastebin.com/qk1TVfBK |
| 19:15.53 | zykotick9 | Shadow_7: fyi, "CLI" is actually a windows-ism... it's a terminal, or in this case a console (with xorg) |
| 19:16.27 | zykotick9 | s/(with/(without/ |
| 19:16.27 | baum | well in a way it's a command line though.... |
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| 19:16.32 | Shadow_7 | command line interface. Doesn't sound much like dos to me |
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| 19:17.27 | zykotick9 | Shadow_7: "command line interface" sounds a lot like what MS would call a terminal to me ;) |
| 19:17.35 | petn-randall | dimitry7: You can upgrade from squeeze to jessie, though. You need to upgrade squeeze â wheezy â jessie. |
| 19:17.40 | petn-randall | *can't* |
| 19:18.11 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, no, I will do a complete install, but I need to restore a DB in squeeze to run some scripts |
| 19:18.18 | boodie | Hi everybody: seasonal greetings! I [stable] would like to use snort as a packet sniffer (to start with). I found this command " ./snort -d -h 192.168.1.0/24 -l ./log -c snort.conf" which should start logging potentiall malicious packets ... do I risk overfillng /var, after a while? |
| 19:18.45 | Shadow_7 | zykotick9: I wouldn't know, haven't run windows since 2002 |
| 19:19.13 | zykotick9 | Shadow_7: i haven't used Windows since pre XP SP1... not sure when that came out... |
| 19:19.15 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: I would have customized the UUIDs. YYYYMMDD-###... where # is the partition it's on. |
| 19:19.30 | petn-randall | dimitry7: I see. Did you try 'ucf confmiss'? |
| 19:19.39 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, i havent grabbed... |
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| 19:19.59 | petn-randall | boodie: That would likely fill ./log, wherever that is. |
| 19:20.01 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, sure |
| 19:20.03 | Tordek | hi |
| 19:20.23 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: doesn't really matter.. unless you need to manually type the UUIDs.. or want a reference for when you last did a mkfs on the partition |
| 19:20.25 | DoctorD90 | standing from what i have read here ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption ) is better UUID or LABEL |
| 19:21.04 | dimitry7 | petn-randall, fixed, I removed the dir: /etc/postgresql |
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| 19:21.07 | dimitry7 | then it created it again |
| 19:21.08 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: I tend towards UUIDs. Labels are too short and I tend to reuse them too often |
| 19:21.09 | DoctorD90 | btw, they should work now? |
| 19:21.12 | boodie | petn-randall: So it's not advisable to start it this way ... |
| 19:21.19 | Tordek | so, I have an iptables (and a /etc/networks/rules.v4 so it autoloads); can/should I replace it for a nftables setup? where do I have to put the config so it autoloads? |
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| 19:21.27 | DoctorD90 | but wait. I have used UUID |
| 19:21.32 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: idk... never done the encryption stuff (yet) |
| 19:21.35 | DoctorD90 | so wher are you talking about? 0o |
| 19:21.45 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: you can create CUSTOM uuids |
| 19:22.11 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: doesn't matter, one is just prettier to look at |
| 19:22.17 | DoctorD90 | ?? on disk ?? how? |
| 19:22.31 | DoctorD90 | yea, for now yes..in future i want learn :D |
| 19:22.48 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: when you mkfs the -U option... although xfs needs xfs_admin -U for some reason |
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| 19:23.07 | studdentt | hi |
| 19:23.16 | studdentt | does the netinstall includes a graphical user interface / |
| 19:23.17 | studdentt | ? |
| 19:23.21 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: can probably change with e2fstune or something |
| 19:23.28 | petn-randall | boodie: It probably has a systemd unit or an init script. Did you check the documentation coming with the package? It's in /usr/share/doc/snort/ |
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| 19:24.31 | somiaj | studdentt: the netinstall includes a graphical installer but there is no gui on the install image (the install image only includes a very minimial base system). |
| 19:24.44 | somiaj | studdentt: but if you have a network connenction during the install you can download the full gui during the install |
| 19:25.13 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, good to know :D i will check in next days :D btw....now i have to install linux image/header, lxde, and grub |
| 19:25.13 | somiaj | studdentt: the standard issue people run across is not having wifi firmware for their card during the netinstall, but there are non-free firmware images and ther ways to get the non-free firmware if you need |
| 19:25.18 | DoctorD90 | start with image |
| 19:25.40 | studdentt | somiaj: i rely on wifi for the rest on the install.. |
| 19:25.43 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: first steps I do is root passwd, linux-image, and grub |
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| 19:26.07 | studdentt | somiaj: but i got ubuntu to run from a netinst disk, it shoundlt be a problem ? |
| 19:26.15 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: then dselect, apt-file, ... |
| 19:26.42 | DoctorD90 | dselect? ...btw, i have waited for image, because i would set fstab and cryptab :P |
| 19:26.43 | zykotick9 | studdentt: ahhh ubuntu might have firmware included, that debian does not. depends on your wireless card. |
| 19:26.55 | DoctorD90 | grub is the last one :D because i would ask you a little help :P |
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| 19:27.42 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: it's old school-ish. only way to get the available part of dpkg these days. useful for light reading to see what things are out there without having the type a lot of apt-cache and stuff |
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| 19:28.14 | somiaj | studdentt: ubuntu doesn't have the same policy on non-free vs DSFG free software, and usually includes non-free software without any additional work. |
| 19:28.15 | DoctorD90 | ah ok |
| 19:28.22 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: less /var/lib/dpkg/available (after a dselect update) |
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| 19:29.05 | somiaj | studdentt: so it could be possible you require non-free firmware to get it to work. If it worked on ubuntu it most likely will work on debian, but you may have to do extra work to install the non-free firmware due to the DSFG and debian letting you know when you install non-free stuff (but it is still supported, just requires extra work and for you to make the choice to use non-free software) |
| 19:29.30 | studdentt | hmm |
| 19:29.45 | DoctorD90 | ok, i will try later :) now installing image and headers. Next i will install grub |
| 19:29.46 | zykotick9 | somiaj: isn't it DFSG? |
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| 19:30.10 | studdentt | somiaj: how can i know what drivers is required? i have ubuntu running atm on the machine |
| 19:30.11 | DoctorD90 | to install grub2 i have to move home in /home? |
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| 19:30.27 | DoctorD90 | or it is useless? |
| 19:31.08 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: not sure what you're referencing... man hier |
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| 19:31.37 | DoctorD90 | linux-image-3.... and linux-headers-3.16... |
| 19:32.20 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: about the home in /home. Ecryption wise you probably want to encrypt all of /home not just /home/someuser |
| 19:32.22 | DoctorD90 | next i will install grub. before install grub I have to move the home directory to /home partition? |
| 19:32.32 | DoctorD90 | sure |
| 19:32.54 | Shadow_7 | the /home/someuser is created with adduser... or manually if you use useradd |
| 19:33.40 | DoctorD90 | is useradd -D the command rigth? |
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| 19:33.58 | DoctorD90 | yes, i have used useradd |
| 19:34.06 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: idk... adduser --home /home/user --shell /bin/bash user |
| 19:34.36 | DoctorD90 | but when i re-enter in chroot, chroot doesnt know user, so i didnt it yet |
| 19:34.47 | cuchufli | Is there an unofficial iso for the debian 8.2.0 installation and not just the netinstall? |
| 19:34.50 | Shadow_7 | that will create the home directory and default to bash not dash as the shell |
| 19:35.13 | DoctorD90 | i edit /etc/default/useradd SHELL :D |
| 19:35.50 | axc1298 | anyone have experience getting debian installed on a mac? i looked at the documentation. i have refind installed but when i try to boot from the CD it just takes me to the grub command prompt |
| 19:35.51 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: plus usermod -G audio,video,... user |
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| 19:36.10 | Shadow_7 | axc1298: something about using refind |
| 19:36.32 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, i run this: useradd -m -h /home/user -s /bin/bash -G sudo user |
| 19:36.36 | DoctorD90 | is good? |
| 19:36.41 | teraflops | cuchufli: unnoficial why? what are you looking for? |
| 19:36.51 | Shadow_7 | DoctorD90: idk... more of an app guy, not admin |
| 19:36.59 | teraflops | Shadow_7: -G audio,video ? |
| 19:37.08 | cuchufli | teraflops: I need a non-free driver for my network card |
| 19:37.19 | teraflops | cuchufli: ah |
| 19:37.22 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: puts the user in audio,video,games,cdrom groups normally |
| 19:37.42 | axc1298 | i am using refind |
| 19:37.45 | teraflops | cuchufli: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 19:37.48 | Shadow_7 | cuchufli: debootstrap install or chroot a regular install to add those parts |
| 19:37.54 | DoctorD90 | Shadow_7, ok, now grub...to install grub 2 what i have to do? |
| 19:37.56 | teraflops | Shadow_7: yes but why? |
| 19:38.27 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: so when you launch firefox it doesn't feel like your using a browser from 1996. |
| 19:38.35 | teraflops | Shadow_7: is not needed anymore |
| 19:38.43 | teraflops | heh |
| 19:39.11 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: ls -l /dev/snd/* |
| 19:39.22 | teraflops | you use alsa? :P |
| 19:39.24 | Shadow_7 | seems like perms are not there for ALL, only root and audio |
| 19:39.52 | teraflops | nah it's ok whatever float your boat |
| 19:39.55 | cuchufli | teraflops, Shadow_7: The reason I need the full ISO and not just the netinst is because I have to login through a browser to identify before I can connect to the internet. Is there a way I can do that with the regular text install? |
| 19:39.56 | teraflops | floats* |
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| 19:40.32 | Shadow_7 | cuchufli: w3m, lynx, and a couple more I can't recall off the top |
| 19:40.50 | teraflops | cuchufli: no idea unless it ca be done with some cli web browser |
| 19:40.55 | cuchufli | oh wait, there's a live+nonfree iso! Thank you! |
| 19:41.04 | teraflops | cuchufli: heh noice |
| 19:41.12 | Shadow_7 | cuchufli: you could bridge through another machine with gui abilities |
| 19:41.18 | DoctorD90 | dinner uff |
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| 19:41.21 | DoctorD90 | brb |
| 19:41.24 | Shadow_7 | let it do the auth stuff |
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| 19:44.03 | teraflops | Shadow_7: nah I do pulse systemwide in a headless machine |
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| 19:44.34 | Shadow_7 | I typically do pulse over jack... but sometimes I just want jack |
| 19:44.34 | teraflops | not that I can judge what other people do |
| 19:44.54 | teraflops | Shadow_7: jack is nice yes |
| 19:45.13 | Shadow_7 | I have some higher end audio stuff and pulse is a mess |
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| 19:45.57 | teraflops | Shadow_7: with pulse you just load the module, right? |
| 19:46.07 | teraflops | i mean for jack |
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| 19:46.52 | Shadow_7 | yes... but on wm's that don't have session management you can get a blown speaker effect / sound... which is just pulse being pulse |
| 19:47.13 | Shadow_7 | plus pulse favors 48kHz, and CDs are 44.1kHz |
| 19:47.20 | teraflops | Shadow_7: you can do pulse thought the network then you just need avahi |
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| 19:47.33 | teraflops | through* |
| 19:47.51 | Shadow_7 | avahi is a mess. allocates a just in case dummy network that breaks your network |
| 19:47.53 | teraflops | and all the vms gets sound automagically |
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| 19:48.23 | teraflops | Shadow_7: nah I tested for pulse it works pretty well |
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| 19:48.45 | Shadow_7 | except when you have avahi installed and DON'T have pulse installed |
| 19:48.57 | teraflops | in a proxmoxve host, works pretty well |
| 19:49.01 | teraflops | Shadow_7: sure |
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| 19:49.22 | teraflops | heh just pointing other methods |
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| 19:49.52 | Shadow_7 | I tend to minimalist things at times. But with your best machine only having 2GB of RAM, kind of have to |
| 19:50.04 | teraflops | hmm yeah |
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| 20:09.06 | boubou | anyone use Rancid with Debian testing repositery ? |
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| 20:09.14 | fr33n0deH4t3r | i want freedom! |
| 20:09.17 | boubou | it looks like there is an issue |
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| 20:11.38 | zykotick9 | boubou: for testing (or sid) questions, you might want to try #debian-next on OFTC network |
| 20:11.42 | fr33n0deH4t3r | i want freedom from commercial stuff! |
| 20:12.05 | boubou | [15:11:50] #debian-next unable to join channel (invite only) |
| 20:12.17 | zykotick9 | boubou: ... on the OFTC network |
| 20:12.19 | boubou | on Freenode ? |
| 20:12.29 | boubou | OFTC what is it ? |
| 20:12.44 | fr33n0deH4t3r | http://webchat.oftc.net/ |
| 20:12.46 | markybob | boubou, irc.oftc.net |
| 20:13.13 | boubou | ok |
| 20:13.16 | boubou | thx |
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| 20:13.50 | boubou | maybe its a related question for Rancid users too |
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| 20:20.01 | boubou | zykotick9 |
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| 20:20.49 | boubou | zykotick9 http://pastebin.com/i0ntei9G |
| 20:20.59 | boubou | I bet it was the cause |
| 20:21.00 | unborn | fr33n0deH4t3r, well you can use debian, if you already do - congratulations - you are free! |
| 20:21.13 | zykotick9 | boubou: sorry i don't visit pastebin.com... |
| 20:21.35 | fr33n0deH4t3r | unborn: yeah, already use that |
| 20:21.36 | boubou | which one then ? |
| 20:21.42 | fr33n0deH4t3r | i hate monopoly |
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| 20:21.55 | unborn | fr33n0deH4t3r, cool, how we can help you? |
| 20:22.09 | fr33n0deH4t3r | don't need help |
| 20:22.25 | zykotick9 | boubou: i doubt it matters - i don't even know what rancid is (other then the music group). paste.debian.net works |
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| 20:23.08 | boubou | zykotick9 or unborn how can I enable ciphers in openssh ? |
| 20:23.09 | boubou | http://pastie.org/private/tnr4dgnjj4emnsqpsngt6g |
| 20:24.03 | zykotick9 | boubou: sorry, doesn't mean anything to me. good luck. |
| 20:24.24 | boubou | spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l cpu_backup tr.1 |
| 20:24.25 | boubou | Unknown cipher type '3des' |
| 20:24.45 | boubou | it looks like 3des is disabled in the latest release |
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| 20:25.52 | Logg | good |
| 20:27.34 | unborn | boubou, im out as well.. sorry.. |
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| 20:28.33 | teraflops | boubou: http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html? |
| 20:29.01 | teraflops | I have to do this way since my crappyrouter is a mess |
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| 20:30.06 | boubou | http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssh_config |
| 20:30.10 | boubou | I found that too |
| 20:30.16 | boubou | thx |
| 20:34.44 | cluelessperson | question. So I have the source of a package and I can do ./configure --options and then make , right? |
| 20:34.51 | cluelessperson | how do I make a .deb package? |
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| 20:35.41 | blind | Not sure if this is the best way to do it, but I use 'checkinstall' -- instead of doing a 'sudo make install' at the end, you 'sudo checkinstall' |
| 20:36.38 | zykotick9 | cluelessperson: sidenote, don't distribute DEBs you make with checkinstall to others... for personal use it's pretty handy/easy though. |
| 20:37.14 | cluelessperson | zykotick9, this is specifically for my company. |
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| 20:37.31 | cluelessperson | http://www.zabbix.com/download.php |
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| 20:38.14 | unborn | zykotick9, I use command to install all my packages but if I would be able to install it by one file.. that will make things easier for example - for my 57 years old mother.. do you have any wikis to tell me how to do this or shall I stay in command line solutions ? :) massive thanks. |
| 20:38.27 | boubou | zykotick9 and unborn. ;) |
| 20:38.36 | boubou | For your education, Rancid means Really Awesome New Cisco confIg Differ |
| 20:38.48 | NoImNotNineVolt | they're also a terrible band. |
| 20:38.48 | n_blownapart | hi anyone know how to dial in a webcam supported by the UVC driver? like setting apps or the best way to get proper focus. (camera is logitech c250) thanks |
| 20:39.00 | n_blownapart | jessie os |
| 20:39.07 | zykotick9 | boubou: Cisco is Rancid, i'll remember that :p |
| 20:39.22 | boubou | DAMN! :'( |
| 20:39.36 | petn-randall | n_blownapart: There's nothing to configure. You just select the video input source in the application that needs video input. |
| 20:39.48 | joetastic | i use cheese |
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| 20:40.39 | n_blownapart | On skype it comes through horribly. petn-randall could you elaborate kindly? |
| 20:41.34 | n_blownapart | also, can cheese and skype talk with eachother? |
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| 20:42.02 | unborn | n_blownapart, I think skype is ms? isnt it? |
| 20:42.11 | joetastic | cheese just takes videos and pictures |
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| 20:42.26 | Logg | yes, skype is owned by microsoft and the nsa |
| 20:42.32 | joetastic | i'm not a webcam expert but this may help https://wiki.debian.org/Webcam |
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| 20:42.48 | n_blownapart | skype does work on debian but horribly so far... thanks joetastic et al. |
| 20:42.59 | joetastic | if you want to keep your video from the nsa, suggest you use an 8mm camera and show it on a projector in your basement |
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| 20:43.20 | Logg | I just use jitsi, joe. ;) |
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| 20:43.41 | boodie | My webcam is a logitech: I installed v4l2 utilities and it works. I had to struggle a bit with v4l2ucp (manual exposure vs auto, etc) ... Once you are done, you can you can save the configuration, otherwise you have to go through the same palaver every time |
| 20:43.55 | unborn | n_blownapart, as Logg said, you should seek any issues regards any integration with ms.. current build works so far very well on any linux... |
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| 20:46.14 | n_blownapart | boodie: is that a settings window or do you configure it from the cli ? |
| 20:46.47 | boodie | settings window |
| 20:47.03 | n_blownapart | save the configuration ... sorry I don't think I know how that is done. oh, ok its a ui. excellent thanks |
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| 20:48.38 | boodie | Save the configuration v4l2ctrl [-d device] -s filename |
| 20:49.07 | boodie | Load a previously saved configuration v4l2ctrl [-d device] -l filename |
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| 20:49.10 | julius | hi |
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| 20:49.30 | julius | how do you set the hostname when using chroot into another debian installation? |
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| 20:50.38 | boodie | Once you are done with v4l2ucp, use v4l2ctrl to save the configuration, otherwise the next time you will have to re-adjust the webcam parameters again (a nuisance) ... |
| 20:51.24 | teraflops | julius: echo myhostname > /etc/hostname |
| 20:51.37 | ofaq | man sid is crashing on me |
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| 20:51.39 | ofaq | err |
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| 20:54.38 | n_blownapart | boodie: for a layman, could you give the precise commands .. i.e is that a specific device name as it's listed via a (dont know which) command ? |
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| 20:54.59 | n_blownapart | a command that lists all usb devices... |
| 20:55.15 | Logg | lsusb |
| 20:55.34 | julius | teraflops, tried that. exit and a fresh chroot into it does not change the hostname |
| 20:56.01 | petn-randall | n_blownapart: Does the skype test video look ok? |
| 20:56.27 | Shadow_7 | n_blownapart: v4l2-ctl --set-fmt-video=width=1280,height=720 && mpv --ao=jackd --vo=opengl --geometry +0+0 --demuxer-lavf-format=video4linux2 /dev/video0 |
| 20:56.36 | Shadow_7 | is what I use to see what my webcam sees |
| 20:56.51 | Shadow_7 | and change it from the default 640x480 to 1280x720 resolution |
| 20:57.08 | Shadow_7 | although it looks way better at 640x480 |
| 20:57.14 | julius | is it possible to run xbmc that was compiled in chroot sid system on the "normal" jessie? |
| 20:57.15 | teraflops | julius: then your chroot is from other dimension |
| 20:57.29 | julius | teraflops, :) |
| 20:57.49 | julius | i can work with the default hostname for now |
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| 20:58.07 | cluelessperson | zykotick9, what I don't understand, is that I do checkinstall, and get a deb, but when I intsall it, nothing |
| 20:58.10 | cluelessperson | nothing gets installed. |
| 20:58.29 | zykotick9 | cluelessperson: ahhh, you did something wrong... |
| 20:58.58 | cluelessperson | zykotick9, like what |
| 20:59.04 | cluelessperson | no errors were shown |
| 20:59.07 | zykotick9 | cluelessperson: no idea... |
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| 20:59.41 | boodie | -d Specify the device name to use. Defaults to /dev/video0. |
| 20:59.44 | n_blownapart | petn-randall: no, the preview is very fuzzy. thanks for that Shadow_7 where do I read about that software and those commands? |
| 21:00.04 | n_blownapart | thanks boodie et al... |
| 21:00.09 | boodie | To be honest I omitted the devicename ... |
| 21:00.18 | julius | http://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/chroot-with-x-applications/ looks like there is |
| 21:00.38 | boodie | It seems that it uses /dev/video0 as defaultname |
| 21:00.50 | julius | boodie, it does...its the first attached camera |
| 21:01.08 | petn-randall | julius: Yes, that should work. |
| 21:01.18 | julius | i love linux |
| 21:01.24 | boodie | obviously, if you had several cameras attached, you should be specific ... |
| 21:01.46 | n_blownapart | excellent thanks kindly all.. |
| 21:02.14 | julius | n_blownapart, you can try guvcview for a test peak |
| 21:02.22 | julius | shows in a window what the camera is recording |
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| 21:03.00 | n_blownapart | yeah julius but its not merely a preview , can it communicate with skype et al? |
| 21:03.13 | julius | dont think so |
| 21:03.22 | n_blownapart | ok cool |
| 21:03.27 | julius | just for testing the camera if it works,..skype got its won video part |
| 21:03.48 | boodie | It works fine with skype go into skype -> options |
| 21:04.34 | n_blownapart | sans v412 boodie ? |
| 21:04.50 | boodie | Once set in v4l2ucp, my ugly face shows up in skype too |
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| 21:05.58 | n_blownapart | ok I'll try it with the default dev/video0 . that's not like a flashdrive where it needs to be mounted, right ? |
| 21:06.03 | boodie | v4l2 stanss for "video for linux 2" ... it's a set of utilities for UCP webcams ... you install it from "aptitude"! |
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| 21:06.43 | n_blownapart | excellent ,, cant wait to f*#k it all up. |
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| 21:22.59 | DoctorD90 | ok Amun_Ra ...let's use netint :P |
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| 21:26.28 | cluelessperson | I'm trying to install debian and it's asking for firmware for the network card |
| 21:26.50 | cluelessperson | problem is, it's not detecting the firmware in the USB installer's root , or in /firmware |
| 21:26.55 | cluelessperson | what am I expected to do? |
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| 21:28.17 | blind | load it up on a flash drive and plug it in during the installation process |
| 21:28.44 | cluelessperson | blind, like a seperate flash drive? |
| 21:28.47 | blind | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en |
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| 21:29.06 | blind | I used a second flash drive, yeah. |
| 21:29.12 | blind | but that page has your answers |
| 21:29.36 | cluelessperson | blind, it really needs to install from the one singular install. :/ |
| 21:29.44 | cluelessperson | blind, but thnak you, I see now, seperate medium |
| 21:29.44 | blind | then follow that page |
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| 21:35.36 | cluelessperson | blind, that page doesn't explain loading firmware from the installing usb |
| 21:35.44 | cluelessperson | only preparing on another, or I'm going insane. |
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| 21:36.07 | blind | "Alternatively, unofficial CD builds containing non-free firmware can be found at....." |
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| 21:37.24 | cluelessperson | blind, I expect to be able to place the firmware at the root of the usb, seperatel |
| 21:38.33 | blind | There's links to install media with the non-free firmware already included... |
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| 21:40.31 | awal1_ | Is there any security/privacy concern when enabling bridge networking? |
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| 21:42.08 | Shadow_7 | the machine that does the bridge could snoop the traffic |
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| 21:42.47 | Shadow_7 | but so could any and every machine that makes up the internet |
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| 21:43.22 | teraflops | awal1_: consider it a feature :P |
| 21:43.31 | Andocromn | does anyone know how to set a default umask? |
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| 21:44.30 | Shadow_7 | umask is the permissions you don't want, so umask=0000 = 777 aka all permissions allowed |
| 21:44.59 | Andocromn | yeah, i understand how they work |
| 21:45.04 | Logg | I overheard someone in this channel mention that you can mount an entire volume with a umask |
| 21:45.09 | Logg | but I don't know how to do that. |
| 21:45.25 | Andocromn | i have 002 set in /etc/login.defs but my umask still is 022 |
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| 21:45.37 | blind | mount ... -o umask=XXX |
| 21:45.45 | Logg | ^^ |
| 21:45.46 | blind | Not all FS support that though |
| 21:45.50 | awal1_ | teraflops: ok. |
| 21:45.53 | Shadow_7 | Logg: defaults,umask=0000 in /etc/fstab... or mount -o remount,umask=0000 /path |
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| 21:47.13 | awal1_ | Virtual have a support for bridge networking whithout any extra utilities or extra configs, but I want to do that with qemu-kvm and it's so a job :( |
| 21:47.22 | awal1_ | Virtualbox ^ |
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| 21:48.20 | Shadow_7 | network manager has a check box for it... although I've never gotten it to work |
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| 21:48.51 | Shadow_7 | with said box anyway |
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| 21:49.34 | Andocromn | mount fails, says bad option. i have ext4 filesystems |
| 21:49.49 | teraflops | awal1_: hmm i believe they call bridged but since you can do it with wireless nics I have my dbouts about being a real bridge |
| 21:50.05 | zykotick9 | awal1_: if you want to used bridge networking for qemu-kvm, i'd suggest using /etc/network/interfaces vs N-M myself... YMMV |
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| 21:50.30 | Shadow_7 | it probably works swell ethernet to ethernet... |
| 21:51.01 | zykotick9 | teraflops: my last attempt at bridged networking (with wireless) failed :( |
| 21:51.12 | teraflops | zykotick9: with vbox? |
| 21:51.26 | zykotick9 | teraflops: no qemu |
| 21:51.31 | teraflops | zykotick9: ah |
| 21:51.38 | teraflops | zykotick9: it works fine |
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| 21:51.55 | zykotick9 | teraflops: ymmv i guess. |
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| 21:53.11 | teraflops | i just created /etc/qemu/bridge.conf and launched the vms with -net nic,model=virtio -net bridge,br=br0 ... |
| 21:53.41 | awal1_ | zykotick9, teraflops, what I want to do is connect my debian machine to wifi 1 and the guest running in qemu-kvm to wifi 2. What I need to do? Bridge networking? |
| 21:53.52 | teraflops | bridge.conf has only `allow br0` |
| 21:54.05 | teraflops | awal1_: ah wifi hmmm |
| 21:54.27 | teraflops | awal1_: depends on your wireless nic |
| 21:54.37 | awal1_ | with virtualbox one have just to enble bridge networking in preferences |
| 21:55.00 | teraflops | awal1_: yes but as I said I dbout it is a real bridge |
| 21:55.09 | teraflops | anyway it works |
| 21:55.34 | awal1_ | I would like use only kvm and not virtualbox, because qemu-kvm is faster and well integrated with linux kernel and compared to vbox |
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| 21:56.29 | teraflops | awal1_: I do tap it's ok for me when Im in the laptop |
| 21:56.36 | teraflops | via wifi .. |
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| 21:57.21 | awal1_ | teraflop, Not sure too but enabling bridge networking in virtualbox config I connect my debian to wifi 1 and the guest to wifi 2, if it's a rel bridge or not I have no idea, my knowledge in netwrking is basic |
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| 21:58.44 | teraflops | awal1_: im just guessing but has sense since I cant do a real bridge with my wifi and vbox load extra modules for networking |
| 21:59.04 | DoctorD90 | guys during installation phase installer asks me about what install. If install generic, or teargeted driver in initrd |
| 21:59.31 | Andocromn | anyone familar with pam_umask? |
| 21:59.36 | DoctorD90 | if i will install generic, they will not help me in compatibility during daily usage, rigth? |
| 21:59.42 | awal1_ | teraflops: do you run kvm? |
| 21:59.52 | zykotick9 | DoctorD90: personally, i'd suggest generic... YMMV |
| 21:59.55 | teraflops | awal1_: yes, always :P |
| 22:00.25 | awal1_ | teraflops: and you have bridge networking with it? |
| 22:00.30 | teraflops | nope |
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| 22:00.38 | awal1_ | hmmm |
| 22:00.39 | teraflops | nope in the laptop |
| 22:01.33 | teraflops | awal1_: but ive used it when using the ethernet nic |
| 22:01.35 | DoctorD90 | zykotick9, even if Im installing on a portable pc? so nothing usb and other? |
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| 22:02.31 | zykotick9 | DoctorD90: my problem was with a "portable pc" if i chose targeted, i couldn't use enternal USB keyboard for grub/luks... |
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| 22:04.40 | DoctorD90 | ok, understand. |
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| 22:04.51 | awal1_ | teraflops: the guest running inside kvm connect to the network that my debian uses just fine, but my goal is connect the guest to another wifi connection, is bridge networking what I really need? |
| 22:04.56 | DoctorD90 | so better to install generic |
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| 22:05.07 | DoctorD90 | thx zykotick9 |
| 22:05.32 | awal1_ | I said my knowledge is basic in networking :D |
| 22:05.39 | teraflops | awal1_: if you wireless nic is capable of ding bridge yes, if not just use nat |
| 22:05.44 | teraflops | doing* |
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| 22:06.25 | awal1_ | i use nat yes. how I can check if my wireless of doing bridge? |
| 22:06.47 | awal1_ | if is capable of doing bridge ^ |
| 22:07.40 | zykotick9 | awal1_: most wireless ISN'T... don't know a way to check. good luck. |
| 22:07.48 | teraflops | awal1_: theres a macvtap thing but ive never tried it |
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| 22:08.46 | teraflops | awal1_: just take the model and pci id an search the internet I suppose |
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| 22:10.29 | awal1_ | zykotick9, teraflops, ok, thanks for your attention, I'll investigate a bit more and loo and macvtap / kvm |
| 22:10.34 | awal1_ | look ^ |
| 22:10.35 | teraflops | awal1_: np |
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| 22:24.41 | gox39 | hi people is there a way 2 start 2 copy procedures in parallel and once these 2 are complete another command should be executed. Now I know of the '||' and '&&' but how can I apply that to my situation? |
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| 22:25.42 | teraflops | hmm take the pids and `wait`? |
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| 22:26.53 | gox39 | teraflops: that is more into shell scripting but I'd like to stay in the terminal |
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| 22:38.02 | format_c | Hi, Iäm just upgrading a dedicated server from (don't laugh) Squeeze to Jessie over Wheezy. |
| 22:38.24 | format_c | At the moment I'm facing a issue by upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie. |
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| 22:38.48 | format_c | Udev claims that it needs a more current kernel version to work properly. |
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| 22:39.27 | format_c | I've installed linux-image version 3.16 as of the pseudo package linux-image-686-pae |
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| 22:39.39 | markybob | format_c, did you reboot between dist-upgrades? |
| 22:39.46 | format_c | yes |
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| 22:40.12 | Shadow_7 | you don't really need udev... you can mknod all the things |
| 22:40.21 | format_c | ugh |
| 22:40.49 | format_c | I've installed the most current stable kernel version after this error message during dist-upgrade appeared. |
| 22:41.23 | format_c | I just wonder if it gets fixed when I reboot and then reissue apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:41.38 | format_c | I fear a bit the reboot. |
| 22:41.45 | markybob | format_c, yes, you do |
| 22:41.45 | format_c | in this meta state |
| 22:42.09 | Amun_Ra | format_c: i'll be fine |
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| 22:42.59 | format_c | So rebooting should be fine? |
| 22:43.16 | markybob | we're about to find out. you don't have a choice |
| 22:43.35 | format_c | I'm afraid. OK I take it.. |
| 22:43.37 | Amun_Ra | format_c: I had an issue like that and it rebooted fine |
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| 22:43.42 | format_c | reboot. |
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| 22:47.24 | format_c | OK it came back |
| 22:47.42 | format_c | now running a 3.16 kernel instead of a 2.6.26 |
| 22:47.44 | format_c | ^ |
| 22:47.46 | Amun_Ra | :> |
| 22:47.47 | format_c | ^^ |
| 22:48.13 | format_c | OK now continuing dist-upgrade |
| 22:48.27 | format_c | Thanks for your advice |
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| 22:49.00 | vertebrate | bg |
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| 22:50.42 | zykotick9 | Amun_Ra: "format_c: i'll be fine" <- that's priceless ;) |
| 22:50.54 | Amun_Ra | ;D |
| 22:51.18 | Andy80 | hi |
| 22:51.28 | format_c | it worked in the end |
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| 22:52.22 | Andy80 | I apologize in advance for the OT, but I won't do this if it wasn't a matter of life/death, please read this https://twitter.com/imurdock/status/681598929205526528 - "i'm committing suicide tonight.. do not intervene as i have many stories to tell and do not want them to die with me" - Ian Murdock |
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| 22:52.26 | Amun_Ra | format_c: he's referring to format c: ;> |
| 22:52.33 | Andy80 | if anyone of you can do anything, please do! |
| 22:53.06 | format_c | Amun_Ra, I've already been over this command, hence using Debian :-D |
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| 22:53.32 | who | using debian jessie and after recently updating packages I get black screen lockup for X. Using older nvidia 8400 gs with debian packages. Worked fine before doing update. Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? I can't get to a shell except for using recovery disk |
| 22:53.35 | Amun_Ra | "i'm commiting suicide" and "do not intervene as i have many stories to tell" doesn't add up |
| 22:54.04 | Shadow_7 | death by book reading? |
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| 22:56.10 | axc1298 | is that real? |
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| 22:59.09 | mark200 | You suck my dick |
| 22:59.16 | mark200 | Fuck |
| 22:59.25 | mark200 | Kurwa |
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| 22:59.40 | morf | what a nice guy |
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| 22:59.49 | morf | come again sometime |
| 22:59.59 | mark200 | Morf where are you from |
| 23:00.05 | axc1298 | !ops |
| 23:00.05 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 23:00.21 | teraflops | why all those retards enter here to talk shit? |
| 23:00.31 | mark200 | Shit |
| 23:00.33 | teraflops | my ignore is full just from here |
| 23:00.40 | mark200 | Debian is shit |
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| 23:00.44 | Amun_Ra | this one unfortunatelly is from my country |
| 23:00.54 | morf | well they have to go somewhere to ventilate their shit i guess |
| 23:00.59 | teraflops | heh |
| 23:01.01 | Amun_Ra | dpkg: ops mark200 |
| 23:01.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: amun_ra complains about: mark200 |
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| 23:01.08 | lemondom | hi |
| 23:01.11 | lemondom | Tue Dec 29 00:00:52 CET 2015 |
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| 23:01.14 | lemondom | this is get after ntp |
| 23:01.20 | Shadow_7 | it's the overflow from the ubuntu channel |
| 23:01.26 | lemondom | but my host computer clock shows me it is still Monday, 28.12.2015 CET |
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| 23:01.31 | lemondom | 23:59 |
| 23:01.32 | teraflops | Shadow_7: heh |
| 23:01.45 | lemondom | so although the debian timezone is correctly set to CET and I use ntp |
| 23:01.58 | lemondom | I still get incorrect time (date, after 00:00) when using date command |
| 23:02.02 | lemondom | any hints? :) |
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| 23:03.03 | Andy80 | Amun_Ra: I don't know if it's real or if someone hacked his account. But in these situations I'd rather be "safe" than "sorry"... |
| 23:03.26 | lemondom | ahh, my host time was wrong :P |
| 23:03.28 | lemondom | lol |
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| 23:04.57 | bamb | hi. how does the linker know to use the static (.a) or dynamic (.so) version of my lib based on the linking option? they both take "-l" |
| 23:05.08 | vertebrate | Andy80, If you're in the USA you could call his employer, Docker, according to WHOIS their number is +1.8007644847 |
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| 23:06.29 | Amun_Ra | bamb: -l â .so |
| 23:07.04 | Amun_Ra | bamb: if you want to link static one add it like regular .o |
| 23:07.12 | who | ok, so after a system update I am getting a systemd-udevd tainted error and kernel crash????? this was a working debian jessie machine and all I did was update packages and reboot? Any thoughts? |
| 23:07.17 | vertebrate | bamb: see the linker docs. |
| 23:07.24 | vertebrate | bamd: searches .so before .a |
| 23:07.28 | bamb | Amun_Ra: according to the manpage, -lmine specifies libmine.a |
| 23:07.36 | vertebrate | Described in the explanation for the -l option. |
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| 23:08.21 | Andy80 | vertebrate: I don't live in USA but I have already contacted a couple of his colleagues. I hope they can do something... |
| 23:08.25 | bamb | "-l surrounds library with lib and .a" |
| 23:08.49 | vertebrate | I see something different in the manpage for ld. |
| 23:08.54 | bamb | vertebrate: ahh ok that makes sense. so it goes by filename |
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| 23:09.02 | bamb | vertebrate: im using the gcc manpage |
| 23:09.08 | bamb | to see how to compile my program to use so |
| 23:09.20 | bamb | but going by filename explains it |
| 23:09.23 | bamb | thanks! |
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| 23:11.18 | Xenthys | Hi everyone, I have a question: I need to update my server, however I have the apt-listbugs showing me, well, bugs if I update I guess? |
| 23:11.30 | Xenthys | It's in french but still readable: https://framabin.org/?a6c856403f428650#RTyucqxmYq4M7PNgxIwlHpYpbGLhf7ygeJfqPm7HMXs= |
| 23:11.58 | Xenthys | So the question is simple: what should I do? :o |
| 23:12.20 | babilen | Xenthys: I would suggest to *not* install buggy packages. You might want to read up on those bugs and then pin them to the currently installed version by answering "p" to that question. |
| 23:12.51 | babilen | You can also pin selected packages if one of the bugs mentioned in there doesn't apply to you. You can then restart the upgrade by running the respective command again. |
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| 23:13.26 | Xenthys | oh, I can pin those packages and update them later if it's fixed? |
| 23:13.42 | vertebrate | Andy80, I mailed the security contact at Docker, who confirmed that they are already trying to get in touch with him. |
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| 23:13.55 | Andy80 | vertebrate: thanks! |
| 23:14.11 | babilen | Xenthys: apt-listbugs removes the pins automatically when the bug is closed. But I would recommend to still read the report to decide if it is valid and/or applies to you (so that you don't unnecessarily delay an important update) |
| 23:14.40 | vertebrate | Andy80, They should also have access to information like his home address - or should, via an emergency HR contact. |
| 23:14.55 | vertebrate | I don't know for sure, as I don't work for Docker. |
| 23:15.26 | babilen | Xenthys: Is this on jessie? |
| 23:15.34 | Xenthys | yup, on Jessie |
| 23:15.46 | Andy80 | vertebrate: any employer should have these informations (I hope, in this case!) |
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| 23:17.14 | babilen | Xenthys: Double check those reports, the version range might be wrong in the bug report. |
| 23:18.00 | babilen | Xenthys: By and large my standard assumption on jessie would be "I can install that" rather then "I can not install that" which would be my assumption on unstable ;) |
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| 23:18.27 | vertebrate | Andy80: yes. I forgot it's more or less business hours in California. |
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| 23:18.46 | Xenthys | babilen: yeah, but the apt-listbug output is scary |
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| 23:21.24 | who | getting a kernel panic after doing security updates on debian jessie. Anyone help? I am only doing updates from security. I've never seen this before. |
| 23:21.29 | babilen | Xenthys: Go to http://bugs.debian.org and search for the bug number. |
| 23:21.50 | mtn | who: what is the error message? |
| 23:21.53 | who | only thing in log is something about irq settings, and something about systemd - udevd being tainted |
| 23:22.11 | who | mtn - I'm having trouble even seeing any messages other than the above in /var/log/kernel.log |
| 23:22.29 | mtn | who: kernel panics are usually descriptive |
| 23:22.30 | babilen | who: And do you have any idea what might trigger it? Can you still boot into the old kernel (and are the panics gone then?) |
| 23:22.31 | Xenthys | babilen: yeah, I did it, I ended up entering "y", thanks! |
| 23:22.43 | who | it crashes to the black screen almost every time, once it did give an actual description |
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| 23:24.12 | who | babilen - there is no old kernel as this was a fairly fresh jessie install, so the only "new" kernels would be security updated kernels. Very strange. never seen this before. its running on quite an old machine, but has worked fine for years on wheezy and then jessie |
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| 23:24.59 | who | is there a way to see the log of the crash better than in /var/log/kernel.log? its crashing to black screen 99 percent of time so I can see no error on screen |
| 23:25.36 | mtn | who: are you sure it is not a video driver problem? |
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| 23:26.31 | who | mtn - I thought that at first, nvidia debian standard way was installed and worked fine before update. To check, I apt-get removed nvidia* and xorg.conf to make sure nvidia driver was not being loaded - did this from rescue disk. |
| 23:27.12 | who | after I did that, I one time saw the kernel panic on the screen, only thing was something about systemd-udevd tainted |
| 23:27.13 | babilen | blacklist might still be active |
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| 23:27.30 | babilen | is sleeping .. good luck! |
| 23:27.48 | mtn | who: when you get the black screen, have you tried ctrl+alt+F2? |
| 23:27.53 | who | mtn, yes |
| 23:28.02 | mtn | who: and nothing? |
| 23:28.20 | who | entire system seems locked up. pretty sure its kernel crash as it did show a kernel crash once, which has never happened before |
| 23:28.29 | who | yes, nothing at ctr f1, f2 , etc |
| 23:28.41 | who | ctl alt i meant |
| 23:29.51 | who | i'm not new to debian, been using a long time and had plenty of video issues, but never seen this after security update. babilen mentioned blacklist could still be enabled which I guess could be true, should I try to reinstall noveau? I know that driver was crappy on my old pci nvidia card anyway tho. |
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| 23:31.23 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 23:32.20 | TheWarden | I'm trying to get a systemd unit service file to work. What does "Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/bin/screen: No such file or directory" mean? The directory exists without a doubt "/usr/bin/screen". |
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| 23:51.24 | TheWarden | I checked permissions and all is good. I even logged in as the user to verify the user has access to /usr/bin/screen and for sure the user does. Argh!! |
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