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| 00:21.07 | cluelessperson | I've just installed libpam-ldap, but I accidentally entered the wrong value for the ldap server |
| 00:21.16 | cluelessperson | where can I correct that setting? |
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| 00:22.14 | format_c | cluelessperson, install apt-file |
| 00:22.22 | format_c | type apt-file update |
| 00:22.35 | format_c | type apt-file list libpam-ldap |
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| 00:22.46 | format_c | spot the configuration file |
| 00:22.50 | Shadow_7 | cluelessperson: dpkg-reconfigure libpam-ldap |
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| 00:22.50 | format_c | change the value |
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| 00:23.17 | format_c | Shadow_7, or this way |
| 00:24.19 | cluelessperson | Shadow_7, I tried that, but it didn't prompt me like it did beforee hand. :/ |
| 00:24.24 | cluelessperson | tries again |
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| 00:27.00 | Shadow_7 | cluelessperson: pam-auth-update? |
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| 00:30.58 | jonwil | can anyone tell me if its possible to obtain the source a very old Debian version of OpenSSL (0.9.8n-1 specifically)? I have a source tree (from an old device that I am trying to upgrade the security of) that forked from 0.9.8n-1 at some point and I want to see what local changes they made so I can (if necessary) make them on a more modern OpenSSL. |
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| 00:33.05 | SameeZ | Hello. Need to have whole disc encryption on server only have remote access to. How can this be done if it is remote, considering would need to input decryption key remote |
| 00:33.22 | SameeZ | Possible to have whole disc encryption on a server I have no physical access to? |
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| 00:41.02 | anarkraft | Hello, Ive installed debian on my system twice now and whenever it reboot i get a gdm with a sad face stating something has gone wrong. |
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| 00:41.24 | anarkraft | So i can launch x from terminal but i was wondering how can i fix gdm or uninstall it and use lightdm instead |
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| 00:41.48 | Lagz-Work | anarkraft: you can uninstall gdm from the terminal using apt-get |
| 00:42.21 | cafuego | or do both; sudo apt-get install lightdm gdm- |
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| 00:43.05 | Anon-666 | Hello. Do you agree that 9/11 was the funniest thing to ever happen or was that San Bernardino? Also, Windows forever! |
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| 00:43.21 | cafuego | !ops Anon-666 troll |
| 00:43.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: cafuego complains about: Anon-666 troll |
| 00:43.39 | Anon-666 | Me a troll? What? |
| 00:43.56 | cafuego | anarkraft: If you want to troubleshoot gdm (probably a good idea) it'll have a log under /var/log |
| 00:43.56 | Anon-666 | I'm not a true. I was asking a legitimate question. |
| 00:44.11 | Anon-666 | troll* |
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| 00:44.21 | cafuego | anarkraft: It should give you some more details about why it has the sad face. |
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| 00:44.49 | axc1298 | why are all the trolls european today |
| 00:45.24 | ikonia | !ops Anon-666 banned from #ubuntu for stupid 911 troll commands |
| 00:45.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ikonia complains about: Anon-666 banned from #ubuntu for stupid 911 troll commands |
| 00:45.26 | ikonia | comments |
| 00:45.28 | Anon-666 | I'm not European. I'm from Tunisia |
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| 00:46.09 | Anon-666 | ikonia, What's wrong? Are you racist to Tunisians, you Amerian Nigger? |
| 00:46.09 | SameeZ | How can I do whole disc encrytion on a remote server I only have remote access to? |
| 00:46.35 | cafuego | SameeZ: Do you have access via a remote console? Or just ssh? |
| 00:46.58 | Anon-666 | cafuego, are you going to hack me via remote console? |
| 00:46.59 | bazhang | !ops | Anon-666 |
| 00:46.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | Anon-666 |
| 00:47.00 | SameeZ | Just ssh |
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| 00:47.05 | teraflops | SameeZ: you can install debian through ssh |
| 00:47.07 | Anon-666 | That's horrible |
| 00:47.33 | cafuego | SameeZ: I don't know that you can do it without having the passphrase stored unencrypted on the same disk then |
| 00:47.36 | SameeZ | But how would I decrypt remote server if in evetn it reboots |
| 00:47.51 | Anon-666 | cafuego is trying to hack me. |
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| 00:48.07 | Uptime | Anon-666: Please stop. |
| 00:48.19 | anarkraft | gdm and lightdm are both installed could that becausing issues |
| 00:48.29 | Anon-666 | You stop being racist to us Arabs. |
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| 00:48.39 | cafuego | thanks somiaj |
| 00:48.46 | Lagz-Work | somiaj: thanks |
| 00:48.52 | anarkraft | Im being rolled by the cia. Anon-666 is a spook |
| 00:49.04 | anarkraft | s/trolled |
| 00:49.16 | cafuego | anarkraft: Definitely a first step to debugging :-) |
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| 00:49.32 | anarkraft | i got all kinds of issues right now. |
| 00:50.05 | cafuego | SameeZ: The boot partition couldn't be encrypted; what you could maybe do is have a non-encrypted root fs and keep data on a second (encrypted) partition. |
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| 00:50.23 | cafuego | SameeZ: You'd need to manually mount that and start services after a reboot, though. |
| 00:51.33 | SameeZ | So ssh on boot partition? wouldnt that create security hole? |
| 00:51.51 | cafuego | yep |
| 00:52.11 | anarkraft | so to my login manager issues |
| 00:52.12 | Obelio | I installed wireshark, do I have to manually create the group wireshark and add my user to it? |
| 00:52.51 | SameeZ | "So ssh on boot partition? wouldnt that create security hole?" So ssh service on boot partition to allow for remote decrypt, would create security hole |
| 00:53.03 | SameeZ | when otherwise compared to ssh on normal partion it is norally in? |
| 00:53.11 | cafuego | SameeZ: wut? |
| 00:53.32 | SameeZ | I need way to have whole disc ecnryption on a server I only have remote access to, |
| 00:53.36 | cafuego | SameeZ: If you don't have access other than ssh, I don't see how you can have any other way of having encrypted data. |
| 00:53.47 | SameeZ | unless I had console? |
| 00:53.58 | SameeZ | I know console is common for VPS, but what about dedicated server? |
| 00:54.07 | cafuego | Yes, you need some way of entering a passphrase BEFORE the system is booted. |
| 00:54.21 | SameeZ | ENCFS considered secure then? |
| 00:54.26 | SameeZ | encrypted filesystem |
| 00:54.31 | cafuego | SameeZ: depend son the hardware, most server mainboards have on-mobo remote access consoles. |
| 00:54.33 | SameeZ | since I only have ssh |
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| 01:03.44 | Hubacub | https://twitter.com/imurdock/status/681598929205526528 |
| 01:03.49 | Hubacub | 10/10 very sane |
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| 01:16.15 | aphorise | How would I got about applying a diff patch to grub-installer thats parts of the live iso's? |
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| 01:25.18 | anarkraft | Haters gonna hate. |
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| 01:28.49 | msb__ | Can anyone tell me Ian Murdock's phone number? He was attacked by police and I need to get in touch with him to help. |
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| 01:30.16 | msb__ | His e-mail would be helpful too. |
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| 01:31.50 | cluelessperson | god damn, what's with all this old as balls software that needs rebuilding |
| 01:31.54 | cluelessperson | like pam/ldap |
| 01:32.04 | mxtm | msb__: it's on his Twitter @imurdock |
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| 01:32.08 | tornado-fan | hi |
| 01:32.13 | mxtm | he sounds like he has lost has shit |
| 01:32.17 | mxtm | his* |
| 01:32.21 | Shadow_7 | blame the NSA |
| 01:32.41 | tornado-fan | i have a small vps, 1 cpu core, 1 gb ram, 20gb hdd, what Debian architecture should i use? |
| 01:32.46 | tornado-fan | 32 or 64 bit? |
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| 01:33.21 | cluelessperson | It just all feels hopeless broken |
| 01:33.25 | dvs | tornado-fan: depends on the CPU |
| 01:33.32 | cluelessperson | someone put it together 50 years ago, and left it |
| 01:33.43 | tornado-fan | afaik the host uses amd opteron, 64bit |
| 01:33.55 | Shadow_7 | it's the best hopelessly broken we got though |
| 01:34.30 | mxtm | jesus christ what https://twitter.com/imurdock/status/681602495068557312 |
| 01:34.52 | tornado-fan | but i heard 64bit uses more cpu and ram, and more hdd space |
| 01:35.03 | Hubacub | mxtm, seems off his rocker |
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| 01:35.11 | Hubacub | to say the least |
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| 01:35.29 | Shadow_7 | tornado-fan: take a look at the netinstall.iso 's... the i386 one is 50% bigger |
| 01:35.30 | anarkraft | lol NSA, so nixCraft had a christmas contest. I won then told them i didnt want their present. It was lulz |
| 01:35.54 | pingfloyd | how come you don't use mpio? |
| 01:36.12 | tornado-fan | Shadow_7: install Image sizes doesn't matter: Windows Server 2008 32bit is bigger than 64bit |
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| 01:36.48 | TheWarden | Woah okay, something has really gone wrong here. I was trying to uninstall all xorg related and some how I can't see how... I lost access to sudo. How does one even go about fixing this now that I don't have sudo? |
| 01:36.53 | TheWarden | It says sudo command not found |
| 01:37.03 | TheWarden | yet I'm apart of the group sudo |
| 01:37.05 | tornado-fan | i'd like to know what is better for a small vps with 1 cpu core, 1gb ram and 20gb hdd. 32 vs 64 bit |
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| 01:37.45 | Shadow_7 | TheWarden: just chroot while booted to another install. You'll be root |
| 01:37.48 | TheWarden | Some how it's gone... I can't see how since I removed all gnome* and xserver* |
| 01:38.26 | TheWarden | Shadow_7: Ahh how do you mean. I'm working on a Debian system now and ssh into the server... |
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| 01:39.13 | Shadow_7 | TheWarden: sounds like you hosed it then |
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| 01:41.37 | Shadow_7 | if you still have root, you could ar -x the .deb to restore the files |
| 01:41.58 | penrod | greetings, I have a debian wheezy box and trying to determine the date the box was initially built. I dan't see any "year" dates. just month and day. How would I scertain the year ? |
| 01:42.41 | Shadow_7 | I tend to tag the partition with the mkfs date |
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| 01:43.29 | TheWarden | sighs |
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| 01:47.44 | TheWarden | well this really sucks... how to heck to get access back. Sure would like to know how the hell sudo was removed. strange. |
| 01:49.19 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Can you run su at the very least? |
| 01:49.24 | Shadow_7 | perhaps you were playing on a partition that needed to be fsck'd before playing |
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| 01:50.15 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: well yes but as I've discovered none of my passwords recorded work. Unreal... I should know better. I swear I know it but it doesn't work. |
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| 01:52.21 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Strange... well you can get a root login by launching it in troubleshooting mode. Reboot it and at the grub menu, press 'e' to edit the commands. And add the number '1' to the end of the line that has the init. It should be the last line |
| 01:52.32 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: That should auto log you in as root |
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| 01:53.03 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: ahh okay let me try that. |
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| 01:53.19 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Good luck |
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| 01:54.27 | SameeZ | To my question earlier, on encrypting a remote server whole disc encryption. Since I would not be there in person to physically input decpryption pass. Would ENCFS be secure alternative? Other alternatvies? |
| 01:54.42 | SameeZ | Bascially, I only have SSH access to remote server but would like whole disc encryption |
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| 01:57.13 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: Ahh so I place a "1" without double quotes at the end of initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0.4-am64 ? |
| 01:57.52 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Yeah, that should be correct. Made sure to add a space before the 1 as well |
| 01:58.34 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: oh yes of course. okay. This works for Debian Jessie? |
| 01:58.58 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Should work for any Linux system |
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| 01:59.27 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: oh... mm it says "error: invalid file name '1' |
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| 02:00.34 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Ah, I was afraid of that. Wrong line in that case. Do any of the lines near the bottom contain a reference to the kernel? |
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| 02:01.46 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Should be the line with linux at the start of it |
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| 02:03.27 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: Ahh yes I do have that |
| 02:03.44 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Then that's the line to place the 1 on |
| 02:03.58 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: ahh okay, thanks. I'll give that line a try then. |
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| 02:04.21 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Again, good luck |
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| 02:06.45 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: well that put me in rescue mode and it asked for the root password for maintenance or press ctrl-d to continue |
| 02:07.59 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Indeed... it seems like it was recently changed to ask for the root password instead of auto-logging in. Sadly, this way won't work :/ |
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| 02:08.35 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: yeah that's what I figured. Some say on the linux line to put init=/bin/bash but I'm assuming that would put me to the same place. |
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| 02:09.12 | dvs | !tell TheWarden about forgot root password |
| 02:09.19 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Well that's something different, so that may actually work. Lemme give it a shot real fast |
| 02:10.19 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: then you mount -rw -o mount / and then run passwd to change the passwd |
| 02:10.30 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: That may indeed be what you're looking for. I just got root access on my comp. Give it a shot |
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| 02:15.48 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: yes :-D that worked. Thanks for the help! |
| 02:16.06 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: you happen to know systemd service unit files well along with screne by chance lol ? |
| 02:16.14 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Happy to help! |
| 02:16.32 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Sadly nope |
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| 02:17.03 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: dang lol just thought I would ask. Trying to figured out the stupid error message mmm maybe I should just abandon screen and use tmux |
| 02:17.45 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Never used screen but personally I quite like tmux. After changing the awkward keybinds it was pretty nice |
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| 02:18.15 | TheWarden | Is there a way to remove all xorg/x11 applications? It seems I still have some more installed yet I don't know all of them that would be. |
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| 02:18.58 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: oh really... mm maybe I should then. I just want to run minecraft server and trying to get screen to work with systemd unit file so I can have it run as a service |
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| 02:21.04 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Ah, I see I see. That's a good way to run it. Tmux is more modern than screen, so I hear, so that might alliviate some of your issues |
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| 02:22.33 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: oh okay, well I guess I'll give it a go. Just figured why not use screen it worked before in the past on Wheezy. I'm stubborn to know why lol. |
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| 02:23.52 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Heheh. Sometimes curiosity isn't worth the headache, though I applaud you for it |
| 02:24.16 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: yeah I know it gets me worked up more than its worth some times. |
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| 02:24.40 | TheWarden | okay here is a question, when one uninstalls an application why does it still show up in dpkg -l ? |
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| 02:27.33 | NeoHoltsky | On the far left, you should see two letters. Most of them should be ii. If you removed it via apt-get remove then it'll read rc. That stands for removed but config files are still present |
| 02:27.50 | TheWarden | ahh I just found the package states that explain it |
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| 02:28.15 | TheWarden | yeah I've used apt-get remove and I have a bunch of rc states |
| 02:28.54 | NeoHoltsky | Then I recommend an apt-get purge if you want the configs gone as well |
| 02:29.06 | TheWarden | lol I just ran that :-) thanks |
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| 02:29.21 | NeoHoltsky | Welcome! |
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| 02:30.05 | TheWarden | Server is an old setup... back when I knew hardly anything how on to properly set it up without the dang GUI. useless to have a GUI when its basically running headless majority of the time. |
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| 02:30.52 | TheWarden | mmm apt-get purge didn't work |
| 02:30.57 | NeoHoltsky | Ahhhh, that makes sense. I was wondering why you were removing X. Enjoy the new processing |
| 02:31.05 | NeoHoltsky | Hmmm |
| 02:31.43 | TheWarden | Yeah... I didn't know better on what's best to select when using the Debian Installer ages ago... now I've played with it and learned what is good and not good for my use. |
| 02:32.13 | TheWarden | still have x apps installed argh this is painfull |
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| 02:33.48 | NeoHoltsky | Ah, I got it |
| 02:33.55 | NeoHoltsky | You'll have to run dpkg --purge on them |
| 02:33.59 | johnfg | I had done an `rsync -avz /var/ /mnt/temp`. Then I changed /etc/fstab to mount the partition I had mounted on /mnt/temp to /var. Then I rebooted. The system didn't boot. Is there something else I need to do to get a separate partition for /var on a running system? |
| 02:34.09 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: on each one individually? |
| 02:34.30 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Indeed. But I just made a quick little script for it, I'll type it in a sec |
| 02:34.48 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: lol combining grep? |
| 02:35.02 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: for i in $(dpkg -l | grep ^rc | cut -d ' ' -f 3); do sudo dkpg --purge "$i"; done |
| 02:35.20 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Indeed, good ol' coreutils |
| 02:35.43 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: ahh thanks |
| 02:36.34 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: just a typo at the end there.. dkpg :-) |
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| 02:37.06 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Ah, oops! Sorry about that ^^' That typo happens more than I'd like to admit |
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| 02:38.22 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: it does to us all I think |
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| 02:45.06 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: oh boy that's still running removing the config files :-) |
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| 02:45.39 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Geeez, that's a lot of programs to be purged |
| 02:46.22 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Then again, X does have its hands in everything |
| 02:47.01 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: true... woah that was close I thought I had more applications to remove but that was my workstation not my server. Good thing I have the system name in my prompt. |
| 02:47.45 | TheWarden | now to figure out how to get menu items in Gnome 3... |
| 02:47.46 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Oh god don't remove X on your workstation |
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| 02:47.59 | TheWarden | NeoHoltsky: no I'm all good.. I stopped and read first :-) |
| 02:48.35 | NeoHoltsky | TheWarden: Good, good! That's the best thing to learn about Linux. Always read first |
| 02:48.45 | TheWarden | lol just finished the clean up of config files :-) |
| 02:49.42 | TheWarden | mm I wish I knew what all to remove... seems like so much more that could be removed. |
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| 02:50.52 | benaiah | does anyone have a recommendation for a bluetooth applet that doesn't require gnome? (I'm using i3, if that's relevant) |
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| 02:51.09 | TheWarden | i3 ahh nice... I must try that soon |
| 02:51.52 | NeoHoltsky | There's blueman if you don't mind GTK dependencies |
| 02:52.25 | benaiah | NeoHoltsky: don't mind GTK, I'm already using it. thanks for the recommendation! |
| 02:52.58 | benaiah | gnome's like an extra 330MB on top of what I have, so pulling it just for a bluetooth menu would be pretty disappointing |
| 02:52.59 | NeoHoltsky | benaiah: Enjoy it! Something that threw me off was that the command to open it was blueman-applet, not blueman |
| 02:53.05 | benaiah | NeoHoltsky: ah, thanks |
| 02:54.05 | NeoHoltsky | Tiling wms are pretty good. I ran them for a while but then I went back to the lightweight dms |
| 02:54.25 | NeoHoltsky | But they definitely inspired a lot of my keyboard shortcuts |
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| 02:56.01 | benaiah | I spend almost all my time in emacs+terminal+chrome, so i3's perfect for me. I don't have much use for floating windows. |
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| 02:56.18 | Shadow_7 | I used IceWM for a few years. Now cwm and can't see going to the other options. I started on kde, but once I realized that it didn't take five seconds to launch something on everything except kde, I found another path. |
| 02:56.58 | NeoHoltsky | Nice. I liked i3 but what killed it for me was that it seemed to have trouble with fullscreen games |
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| 02:58.06 | Shadow_7 | I like cwm. Control + Alt + F and anything can be fullscreen. Control + Alt + X and who needs a boss key. |
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| 02:59.29 | NeoHoltsky | Huh, I'll have to try that some time. I was happy on bspwm for a long while but I just like the more unified look a good de gives you |
| 03:00.32 | Shadow_7 | The only look part is that the decorations is only a 1px border. Everything else is a keyboard and mouse type thing. Or wmctrl if you're feeling lazy |
| 03:01.56 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... yet another flash version, effective today |
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| 03:03.15 | Hubacub | HAN DIES |
| 03:04.17 | abrotman | Hubacub: need help with Debian? |
| 03:04.21 | Shadow_7 | The last one only lasted 20 days |
| 03:04.30 | Hubacub | Nah |
| 03:04.40 | cra1g321 | what a productive life some people live |
| 03:04.59 | benaiah | NeoHoltsky: odd - while usually one of $mod+f or in-game fullscreen works, IME the other one always has (so far) |
| 03:05.08 | benaiah | TBF, I don't play many games, especially on this machine |
| 03:05.57 | NeoHoltsky | My issues were with being unable to switch workspaces while the game was fullscreen |
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| 03:06.35 | NeoHoltsky | It seemed so strange to me since other fullscreen apps let me switch workspaces, but I never looked much into it |
| 03:06.45 | Shadow_7 | Control + Alt + down cursor and the foreground becomes the background. Even when fullscreen. l2cwm |
| 03:07.14 | Shadow_7 | alt + right mouse basically the same function |
| 03:07.18 | NeoHoltsky | Ahhhhh, I see |
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| 03:07.49 | NeoHoltsky | Thanks, seems so simple now |
| 03:08.10 | Shadow_7 | if only firefox/iceweasel didn't feel compelled to put a word menu bar on top when alt was pressed |
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| 03:11.14 | NeoHoltsky | Seems like the official firefox solution to that is just to enable the menu bar all the time |
| 03:11.32 | Shadow_7 | meh. push alt again make it go away |
| 03:12.24 | NeoHoltsky | That works too |
| 03:12.42 | Shadow_7 | still annoying if you're in a rush |
| 03:13.20 | NeoHoltsky | Agreed. I remember there being an addon ages ago to disable that, but I can't seem to find it again |
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| 03:15.34 | benaiah | so, I've successfully connected to my bluetooth speaker, and the play/pause button on the speaker is talking to my computer, and everything reports that it should be working, but the audio isn't coming out. I've tried running alsamixer to see if there's something in there I need to change to route the audio to the bluetooth speaker, but I don't see anything. any ideas? |
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| 03:16.48 | NeoHoltsky | If you're using pulseaudio, you'll need to install the pulseaudio-bluetooth package, but it should call an error about that before pairing |
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| 03:18.02 | benaiah | I already ran into and fixed that problem |
| 03:18.12 | benaiah | afaict, anyway. |
| 03:18.16 | NeoHoltsky | If you rightclick the device in the device manager, you'll see a list of things to connect it to. I'd say try all of them |
| 03:18.45 | benaiah | might try rebooting (I kinda suck at service management still) |
| 03:19.00 | NeoHoltsky | Turning it on and off again is always a good thing to do |
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| 03:40.31 | benaiah | blech, bluetooth sucks. it keeps not working and then almost working and I don't even know why. too tired to debug it, fortunately it's got an aux cable. |
| 03:40.34 | benaiah | NeoHoltsky: thanks anyway |
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| 03:43.08 | NeoHoltsky | My greatest issues with Linux have been audio issues, so I know where you're coming from |
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| 03:46.12 | johnfg | on all my previous versions of debian, I have my web pages at /var/www. But jessie seems to want them at /var/www/html. |
| 03:46.18 | johnfg | Is there a way to change this? |
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| 03:48.50 | jelly | johnfg: yes. set DocumentRoot to whatever directory you like |
| 03:49.19 | johnfg | jelly: is the the one in: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled? |
| 03:49.42 | jelly | one of the files linked there, yes |
| 03:50.22 | johnfg | And then what's the systemd service to restart httpd? |
| 03:50.45 | jelly | which httpd are you using? |
| 03:50.53 | jelly | er, nm |
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| 03:51.06 | jelly | you can just "apachectl graceful" |
| 03:51.26 | jelly | no need to restart the service |
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| 03:52.59 | johnfg | jelly: cool, thanks for the help! |
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| 03:54.10 | jelly | johnfg: there are some details about debian-specific apache config setup in... zless /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz |
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| 03:55.54 | johnfg | jelly: i'll check that out. |
| 03:57.00 | johnfg | problem i mentioned earlier...synaptic pkg manager was working fine from the mate System/Administration menu, but now, it doesn't come up. Doesn't ask for authentication or anything. |
| 03:57.15 | johnfg | it runs from the cli. Any idea what could have happened? |
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| 04:16.53 | johnfg | is there a systemd service for mysql-server? |
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| 04:28.42 | inex | what the fuck man where is the founder |
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| 04:34.40 | vvande__ | inex: You mean Mister Debian himself? |
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| 04:37.31 | blubee | hi guys |
| 04:37.45 | blubee | in gnome when you add keyboard shortcuts |
| 04:38.08 | blubee | where do those shortcut functions live? |
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| 04:40.39 | kogan | what is the best way to uninstall windows |
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| 04:40.57 | cra1g321 | by installing Debian over it Kogan ;) |
| 04:41.15 | x42 | best is relative |
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| 04:43.40 | inex | vvande__, https://i.imgur.com/4Qt1mMr.png |
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| 04:45.24 | jelly | inex: that twitter account is likely compromised. This channel however is for tech support only, keep the non-support kind of traffic in #debian-offtopic |
| 04:45.55 | inex | oh no |
| 04:45.58 | inex | ok, sorry. didn't know. |
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| 04:47.24 | niemal | !twitter |
| 04:47.24 | dpkg | Twitter is a social networking/micro-blogging service. The official Debian twitter account is at http://twitter.com/debian . Tweet clients packaged for Debian include: <bitlbee>, bti, choqok, gwibber, pidgin-microblog, python-twyt, qwit, tircd and <twidge>. |
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| 04:47.54 | niemal | is mister murdock's twitter compromised? |
| 04:48.08 | jelly | probably |
| 04:48.28 | jelly | niemal: this channel however is for tech support only, keep the non-support kind of traffic in #debian-offtopic |
| 04:48.40 | niemal | oh there is ann offtopic chan too, nice |
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| 04:48.46 | niemal | s/nn/n/ |
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| 04:49.45 | jelly | wonders which shitty news or social service is carrying that twitter crap, so many people coming to ask about it at precisely the same time |
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| 04:51.44 | niemal | oh, i heard from a friend (since you referred to that, i will answer your wondering), no social service/website, just a friend. |
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| 04:52.30 | jelly | thanks |
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| 04:59.45 | autogen | https://twitter.com/imurdock someone explain these lulz |
| 05:00.23 | jelly | autogen: pwned account |
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| 05:01.37 | jelly | autogen: I'm doing a survey. How exactly did you find about it? |
| 05:02.50 | autogen | jelly: I don't respond to surveys or perverse methods of data aggregation. Please accept my kind regards. |
| 05:03.25 | Wsewolod | autogen: he mentions that because lots of people have been coming here with the sole purpose of asking about that twitter... |
| 05:03.45 | Wsewolod | ...leading to the suspicion that it spawned an article on some hot social media site or something |
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| 05:04.49 | niemal | autogen: lmao |
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| 05:05.38 | autogen | Wsewolod: to be fair, I've debian installed on many systems. |
| 05:06.19 | Wsewolod | Even so. Also, I wonder how companies doing surveys to better understand their customers' needs and preferences is perverse. |
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| 05:06.32 | jelly | autogen: in any case, this is primarily a tech support channel. You want to comment on twitters, please do in in #debian-offtopic |
| 05:06.41 | jelly | same goes for everyone else |
| 05:07.01 | niemal | i'm curious though, how did someone actually break into his account, i mean, you created debian, surely you could use the safest password possible |
| 05:07.17 | autogen | jelly: I've yet to comment on any twitter. Point taken though |
| 05:08.01 | autogen | Wsewolod: I'm not a customer, and certainly, asking be about my sources isn't solely to better fulfill my needs, let alone understand me. Thanks for your support however! Much appreciated. |
| 05:08.08 | autogen | s/be/me/ |
| 05:08.54 | jelly | --> autogen (~autogen@unaffiliated/autogen) has joined #debian <autogen> https://twitter.com/imurdock someone explain these lulz # this WAS a comment on twitter. Now, please stick to tech support in here. |
| 05:09.13 | autogen | commentary vs proposition.. Predicate nominal? |
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| 05:09.43 | jelly | anyone else want to be a smartass, do it in #debian-offtopic |
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| 05:25.58 | STMelon | jelly, damn.. i love this server.. it is like ppl sitting on a bench texting each other SITTING right next to each other.. i mean LOL chill, breath fresh air.. be real.. this is NOT real |
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| 05:26.21 | hiya | Any openVPN expert? I have a question about security. I am using Debian Jessie, has anyone been able to use tls-cipher TLS-DHE-RSA-WITH-AES-256-GCM-SHA384 for your OpenVPN server-client configuration successfully? |
| 05:26.56 | STMelon | gosh forbid. i make Uptime mad |
| 05:27.47 | STMelon | here in MY world.. i run (own) operate business servers with IRC support |
| 05:27.58 | jelly | STMelon: wrong channel, dude |
| 05:28.08 | STMelon | no |
| 05:28.23 | STMelon | if you had a clue |
| 05:28.28 | STMelon | U would chill |
| 05:28.31 | STMelon | but you dont |
| 05:28.35 | STMelon | nor ever will |
| 05:28.38 | STMelon | night hun |
| 05:28.41 | STMelon | or dude |
| 05:28.44 | niemal | good night |
| 05:28.46 | niemal | bby |
| 05:28.48 | STMelon | or "it: |
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| 05:45.15 | pepee | anyone knows what's going on with ian? has anyone contacted him? https://twitter.com/imurdock |
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| 05:46.21 | hiya | Is it safe to use Latest OpenVPN version from OpenVPN's official repo? Or stay with Debian's repo? Esp. when Debian's openvpn is buggy 2.3.4 which won't work if you set tls-min-version 1.2 owing to defect? |
| 05:46.40 | hiya | https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/ticket/401 |
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| 05:47.30 | CoJaBo | ..Debian stable isn't known for having the latest... anything |
| 05:47.43 | jelly | pepee: compromised account probably. Comment in #debian-offtopic, keep this channel for tech support please. |
| 05:48.00 | pepee | ok |
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| 05:49.52 | jelly | ,v openvpn |
| 05:49.53 | judd | Package: openvpn on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.1.3-2+squeeze2; squeeze-security-lts: 2.1.3-2+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 2.2.1-3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.2.1-8+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.2.1-8+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 2.3.2-7~bpo70+2; jessie: 2.3.4-5; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.3.4-5+deb8u1; sid: 2.3.8-1; stretch: 2.3.8-1 |
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| 05:50.07 | hiya | CoJaBo, it is not about latest, it is about buggy stuff, see, some providers and crypto people suggest to use tls 1.2 today and they implement it that way, but when users from OpenVPN 2.3.4 connect they cry because it won't work for them :( |
| 05:50.09 | hiya | jelly, ^ |
| 05:50.20 | jelly | hiya: I'd take a look at the version from jessie-proposed-updates first |
| 05:50.49 | hiya | proosed-updates won't fix it says official OpenVPN support |
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| 05:50.58 | hiya | 2.3.4 anything is bad if you want tls-min-version 1.2 |
| 05:51.06 | hiya | in server configuration |
| 05:51.43 | hiya | jelly, 2.3.3 works fine lol but 2.3.4 won't, so do you think it is safe to use OPenVPN community repo? |
| 05:52.43 | jelly | I have no idea, their packaging may be great or adequate or horrible even if their code is good and fresh and patched up. |
| 05:52.53 | hiya | jelly, :( |
| 05:53.16 | hiya | this is not good, you first set an buggy version of openvpn, freeze it and then say stuff about their version |
| 05:53.29 | jelly | hiya: do you know which bug report from bugs.debian.org/openvpn matches your TLS1.2 issue? |
| 05:53.43 | jelly | hiya: who's saying stuff? |
| 05:53.44 | hiya | jelly, Wait I would try to find ok? |
| 05:54.44 | hiya | NO jelly there is no known issue there? |
| 05:54.48 | hiya | Should I file a report? |
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| 05:55.13 | kkekek | What's going on with Ian? |
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| 05:57.51 | jelly | hiya: yes, use "reportbug" tool |
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| 05:58.10 | jelly | kkekek: compromised twitter account probably? Comment in #debian-offtopic, keep this channel for tech support please. |
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| 06:05.36 | Obelio | I installed Debian on my laptop, and just out of curiosity I ran a netstat , and found three processes that are listening, exim4, rpcbind,rpc.statd, what are they for and can I safely remove them? Thanks in advance |
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| 06:07.16 | jelly | Obelio: exim is a mail server (smtp service, local and remote delivery, used by cron among other things); rpcbind/portmap is a backend for some other services, notably NFS stuff (both client and server nfs). statd is also NFS related. |
| 06:07.26 | kkekek | jelly: sorry |
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| 06:08.58 | jelly | Obelio: are they only listening on localhost addresses (127.0.0.1 or ::1)? |
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| 06:11.57 | Obelio | jelly, Exim4 is listening on 127.0.0.1:25 and ::1:25 but rpcbind at 0.0.0.0:111 and :::111 |
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| 06:12.09 | kimojia | damn kill the cops |
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| 06:12.52 | jelly | kimojia: comments in #debian-offtopic, keep this channel for tech support please |
| 06:12.56 | Obelio | jelly, if I remove exim will it hurt cron? and sorry for my ignorance what is NFS? |
| 06:13.30 | jelly | Obelio: you won't get any reports from cron jobs that misbehave any more in your local inbox |
| 06:13.53 | jelly | nfs is a unix network share file system |
| 06:15.15 | Obelio | jelly I see, I can leave exim then, but I am more concearned on the other processes listening on 0.0.0.0.. do they pose a security risk? |
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| 06:17.34 | jelly | Obelio: they might, but rpcbind also has an application-level firewall on debian, it's built with tcp_wrappers support |
| 06:19.08 | jelly | Obelio: you can specify access rules in /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny |
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| 06:21.36 | jelly | Obelio: I -think- some gnome related component might use it and that's why it got installed. Or maybe it's just there for nfs support. "rpcinfo -p localhost" will show which services are using it at present time (apart from rpcbind/portmapper itself, and statd) |
| 06:23.40 | Obelio | jelly I feel more comfortable writing an Iptables firewall than using the hosts.allow /deny |
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| 06:24.30 | jelly | that's probably saner |
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| 06:25.33 | TheWarden | okay I know this is online but I'm just not getting. I want to change directory in a BASH script but apparently you can't do this how the commands are handled. So how do I do it then? |
| 06:25.44 | Geo | Hi, how can I find what apt package contains 'adduser' ? |
| 06:25.47 | TheWarden | making a BASH alias to me just seems stupid |
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| 06:26.23 | Geo | TheWarden: why are you saying you can't change directories in a bash script? (or have I missed earlier conversation?) |
| 06:26.31 | Geo | rather, what makes you think that |
| 06:27.05 | TheWarden | Geo: Apparently it doesn't work. It keeps saying file or directory not found. Yet I've copied and pasted the line to run manually and it works fine. |
| 06:27.06 | jelly | Geo: do you have access to a Debian system? adduser ought to be there by default, so dpkg -S /usr/sbin/adduser |
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| 06:27.46 | Geo | jelly: its a minimal image, so its missing |
| 06:27.53 | Geo | I'm trying to put that back in to fix a script |
| 06:28.05 | Geo | TheWarden: it does work |
| 06:28.28 | Geo | are you using absolute paths? or relative paths |
| 06:28.35 | AlwaysHi- | Hey, what command can i use to kill a certain process linked to a specific user via root? |
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| 06:29.18 | Geo | AlwaysHi-: you said it. kill. |
| 06:29.27 | jelly | Geo: ah. anyway, the package name is also adduser. You can use apt-file to search for files in not installed packages. |
| 06:29.36 | Geo | bah, its adduser! |
| 06:29.38 | Geo | haha, yeah |
| 06:29.42 | AlwaysHi- | su - user1 -c "pkill -f process" works but returns errors saying its wants to kill all identical proccesses other users are running |
| 06:29.44 | Geo | i didnt do an update |
| 06:29.46 | TheWarden | Geo: well it doesn't for some reason like I described. |
| 06:29.57 | TheWarden | Geo: Absolute path I'm using |
| 06:30.02 | jelly | AlwaysHi-: pkill has a -u parameter, you want to RTFM |
| 06:30.20 | Geo | TheWarden: its something you've (not) done. Without more info, there's little anyone can do without looking at your script. |
| 06:30.32 | Geo | ...beyond saying, "you're doing it wrong" :) |
| 06:30.45 | Geo | thanks jelly |
| 06:30.52 | jelly | TheWarden: add set -x at the beginning of your script, run it, and pastebin both the script and the full output. |
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| 06:31.17 | jelly | and when I say beginning I mean under the #! line :-) |
| 06:31.17 | AlwaysHi- | thanks jelly |
| 06:31.24 | AlwaysHi- | i keep forgetting to type --help lol |
| 06:31.26 | TheWarden | A simple script for temp purposes.... https://gist.github.com/thewarden/cb8ed74c42ff9173191e |
| 06:32.50 | jelly | TheWarden: waiting for set -x output. Also, which debian release is this? |
| 06:33.46 | TheWarden | jelly: Debian Jessie and here it is... https://gist.github.com/thewarden/cb8ed74c42ff9173191e |
| 06:34.03 | TheWarden | I swear in past scripts I've not had this issue. |
| 06:35.18 | jelly | TheWarden: ok. What does "ls -ld /home/matty/Downloads/Minecraft/SpitgotServer/" say? |
| 06:36.17 | jelly | TheWarden: run it as the same user that's running the start-spigot script |
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| 06:39.17 | TheWarden | smacks his head with a hammer and says "It's time to go to bed and not asking dumb ass questions". |
| 06:39.51 | TheWarden | jelly: thanks for being so understanding... some how a letter t got into the command. |
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| 06:42.56 | TheWarden | yeah I won't response to this either :) |
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| 08:03.40 | franz_koopa | one thing that's difficult to understand: if DRM problems are most acute with linux, why all the DRM cracking software is made for windows |
| 08:05.07 | Shadow_7 | And then there's 12K flashlight apps in the iPhone store. |
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| 08:06.28 | blubee | anyone here familiar with gnome shortcut keys? |
| 08:07.02 | blubee | the keyboard shortcuts doesn't report properly to xev |
| 08:07.16 | blubee | I'd like to bind custom commands to predefined shortcut keys |
| 08:07.17 | Shadow_7 | like control + shift + v to paste in a terminal type? |
| 08:07.37 | blubee | no multimedia controls |
| 08:07.47 | blubee | volume up, down, mute etc |
| 08:08.06 | blubee | they work with pulseaudio but i'd like to also have them send commands to amixer |
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| 08:08.25 | blubee | but i can't find where to capture those shortcuts to bind custom commands to it |
| 08:08.48 | Shadow_7 | man gnomerc ? or whatever it's config file is |
| 08:10.09 | Shadow_7 | The .cwmrc is pretty easy to configure for that with cwm. hotkey for dmenu and other things |
| 08:11.15 | blubee | i didn't see gnomerc let me look for the cwmrc file |
| 08:11.35 | Shadow_7 | different wm / de |
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| 08:11.55 | blubee | i didn't see any of those files |
| 08:12.04 | Shadow_7 | conf.c in the sources for has most of the default ones listed |
| 08:12.15 | Shadow_7 | it's a bsd wm that has a portable version |
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| 08:13.02 | Shadow_7 | slackbuilds.org has the particulars. Since google isn't that great of a search engine anymore |
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| 08:16.36 | Gerowen | Anybody know why this happens in Jessie? https://bugs.python.org/issue22810 |
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| 08:17.07 | Gerowen | Doesn't matter if you call tk directly or use a front-end like easygui, using Python-TK to open a file/folder selection causes the rest of the program to crash after you select a file or folder. |
| 08:17.19 | Gerowen | Have also tried using both Python 2 and Python 3 |
| 08:19.17 | Gerowen | I guess everybody is asleep, so I'll leave the IRC open if anybody has any ideas. |
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| 08:37.41 | Amun_Ra | Gerowen: can't reproduce it either |
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| 08:38.24 | Shadow_7 | something about not an issue for 3.4.x python in that bug page. |
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| 08:45.30 | EgoAleSum | hello! iâm getting some weird errors while launching dnsmasq: âPID file /var/run/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.pid not readable (yet?) after start-post.â http://pastie.org/private/huwzpckg1oaeueeozbaw what does that mean? |
| 08:45.59 | EgoAleSum | (i can launch dnsmasq successfully if invoking âdnsmasqâ directly, but it fails with system.d) |
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| 08:49.59 | LucaTM | Hello everyone! :) |
| 08:53.02 | EgoAleSum | hello! iâm getting some weird errors while launching dnsmasq: âPID file /var/run/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.pid not readable (yet?) after start-post.â http://pastie.org/private/huwzpckg1oaeueeozbaw what does that mean? |
| 08:53.03 | EgoAleSum | (i can launch dnsmasq successfully if invoking âdnsmasqâ directly, but it fails with system.d) |
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| 08:55.33 | Amun_Ra | EgoAleSum: it can be pid file ownership problem |
| 08:56.04 | EgoAleSum | Amun_Ra: itâs a fresh install, and Iâm using the same config file that worked on another machine... |
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| 08:56.20 | ex-parrot | if you once launched the daemon manually as root it probably made a root-owned pidfile |
| 08:56.20 | EgoAleSum | Amun_Ra: iâve also tried âsudo rm -rf /var/run/dnsmasq*â |
| 08:56.26 | ex-parrot | try removing it then restarting the service from systemd |
| 08:56.33 | EgoAleSum | ex-parrot: tried :( |
| 08:56.50 | ex-parrot | check the user it expects to run as and make sure they can write to where it wants to put the pidfile |
| 08:57.09 | EgoAleSum | ex-parrot: thereâs no user and group in the config file |
| 08:57.15 | EgoAleSum | itâs using the default one, i assume root? |
| 08:58.16 | EgoAleSum | ex-parrot: the only difference with the previous system where the same config file worked is that now iâm including extra config from /etc/dnsmasq.d ⦠could it be a sort of race condition? |
| 08:58.46 | EgoAleSum | no, just tested, itâs not |
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| 09:02.36 | EgoAleSum | also, permissions on /var/run/dnsmasq.pid are 0666 |
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| 09:16.18 | EgoAleSum | no one else has ideas? |
| 09:16.28 | EgoAleSum | iâve also checked that /var/run symlinks to /run |
| 09:16.38 | Elirips | Hello. How can I check if I used aptitude or dpkg to put a package on hold (to unhold it in the correct tool)? |
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| 09:19.02 | well_laid_lawn | EgoAleSum: does this soluttion help you https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=154481 ? |
| 09:19.29 | well_laid_lawn | no point fighting systemd if you have it |
| 09:19.52 | EgoAleSum | well_laid_lawn: wait i think iâm still with init.d. not sure now lol |
| 09:20.01 | EgoAleSum | that thread refers to another problem... |
| 09:20.09 | EgoAleSum | thereâs something happening so the pid file is not created |
| 09:20.23 | EgoAleSum | if I create it manually and give 0777 permissions, then the init script removes it |
| 09:21.18 | simonlnu | sometimes does chown $user:group $PIDFILE in init scripts |
| 09:21.39 | EgoAleSum | @simonlnu tried that too, manually |
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| 09:24.11 | EgoAleSum | So, I manually create /var/run/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.pid , give it 0666 permissions and assigning it to dnsmasq:nogroup. then I restart the service, and the file is deleted and it fails again. this is very frustrating |
| 09:24.21 | EgoAleSum | and yes, i donât think iâm using systemd, just init.d, sorry |
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| 09:24.56 | well_laid_lawn | I'd make sure of the init system before trying anything else |
| 09:25.13 | EgoAleSum | well_laid_lawn: what do you mean? |
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| 09:25.55 | simonlnu | just because it's an init script it doesn't mean it's using sysv init |
| 09:26.13 | EgoAleSum | simonlnu: ok, how can i check if iâm on sysv init or systemd? |
| 09:26.15 | well_laid_lawn | EgoAleSum: you said you don't think you are using systemd so I suggested to make sure |
| 09:26.30 | EgoAleSum | i didnât install systemd manually |
| 09:26.36 | simonlnu | systemd-sysv 228-2+b1 amd64 system and service manager - SysV links |
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| 09:27.29 | EgoAleSum | simonlnu: thereâs no systemd-sysv running in my system |
| 09:27.50 | simonlnu | that's a package... |
| 09:28.13 | simonlnu | going afk |
| 09:28.16 | EgoAleSum | simonlnu: oh lol can you remind me how to check installed packages on debian? |
| 09:28.25 | EgoAleSum | have been using rhel for the past while |
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| 09:29.21 | ChrisH | EgoAleSum: ps -efl | grep systemd will show if systemd is running, dpkg -l | grep XXX is what you are looking for, like rpm -qa | grep XXX |
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| 09:29.30 | ChrisH | ,v systemd-sysv |
| 09:29.31 | judd | Package: systemd-sysv on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 215-17+deb8u3; sid: 228-2+b1; stretch: 228-2+b1 |
| 09:29.49 | EgoAleSum | yes, itâs installed |
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| 09:29.52 | EgoAleSum | so iâm using systemd |
| 09:30.55 | EgoAleSum | this is so frustrating. was doing the same exactly one week ago and it ran without any problem of sort⦠|
| 09:31.05 | EgoAleSum | iâll just re-install the OS.... |
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| 09:32.40 | well_laid_lawn | EgoAleSum: you'll end up with systemd again |
| 09:32.51 | well_laid_lawn | better to just learn it now |
| 09:32.59 | EgoAleSum | well_laid_lawn: yeah but it was working last week |
| 09:33.04 | ChrisH | and you are not using stable, but testing or unstable. This channel supports stable. and from your paste its even Paspberian not Debian |
| 09:33.04 | EgoAleSum | not sure what changed on this machine |
| 09:33.26 | well_laid_lawn | I'm sure it'll be in a log |
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| 09:47.54 | BlenderPro | hi I am puzzle as to which one is the fa32 file system there are like 6 fat32s on fdisk I don't know which one to select and also when I use mkfs. I don't know which one if vfat or fat alone I should go for please help me I bought a 64gb cf card and can't go on |
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| 09:54.36 | Amun_Ra | BlenderPro: you can use 0x0b |
| 09:54.48 | bumbar_ | is it possible to prevent user from logging in remotely, but allow local login? |
| 09:54.53 | hiexpo | use gparted lokkat it |
| 09:55.08 | BlenderPro | Amun_Ra: what is that mean |
| 09:55.19 | Amun_Ra | BlenderPro: https://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html |
| 09:55.28 | Amun_Ra | bumbar_: yes, you can |
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| 09:56.48 | bumbar_ | Amun_Ra, how would i go about that? |
| 09:56.57 | peterrooney | bumbar_: man 5 sshd - AllowUsers |
| 09:57.09 | BlenderPro | Amun_Ra: that's not what I'm looking for |
| 09:57.19 | BlenderPro | hi I am puzzle as to which one is the fa32 file system there are like 6 fat32s on fdisk I don't know which one to select and also when I use mkfs. I don't know which one if vfat or fat alone I should go for please help me |
| 09:57.23 | peterrooney | bumbar_: sorry, I meant man 5 sshd # AllowUsers |
| 09:58.43 | bumbar_ | peterrooney, thanks |
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| 10:01.38 | WG1337 | Hi! Im looking for a that extra-lightweight sendmail for Debian 8. Can anyone recommend one? I dont understand much about emails, bit confused with SMTP, MTA and some all those other beasts, but all I need is to send mail from PHP with the least RAM usage possible |
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| 10:03.55 | ChrisH | WG1337: You are looking for and MTA (Mail Transport Agent) but I cannot recommend one for your needs. I use exim everywhere. |
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| 10:04.04 | BlenderPro | hi ChrisH I remember you |
| 10:04.31 | BlenderPro | ChrisH: about my ps110 you helped me get it to work |
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| 10:05.24 | ChrisH | WG1337: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/DefaultMTA has some MTAs and theier pros and cons listed. |
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| 10:06.46 | lkfjfr | how do I get wifi to work on the new debian live gnome version? |
| 10:07.02 | ChrisH | BlenderPro: you're welcome |
| 10:07.15 | BlenderPro | ChrisH: I have 2 questions to ask you one is how to convert mp4 to mp3 where files are stored on a flash drive on debian and also what is the file system fat32 mkfs.vfat or mkfs.fat thanks |
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| 10:09.03 | WG1337 | ChrisH, I did try exim4, but I think I had problems with configuration, but I wont bother you with that, I think I have a problem with FQDN because I want to send mail with from a domain that uses gmail servers (but need a local sendmail since gmail has limitations). Thanks for clearing up that I need a MTA! |
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| 10:11.07 | ChrisH | BlenderPro: ad 1 (google: debian convert mp4 to mp3) http://askubuntu.com/questions/174287/how-do-i-convert-an-mp4-to-an-mp3 converting video to audio. FAT/FAT32/VFAT are the Filsystem on USB Sticks and older windows versions. mkfs.XXX is the Linux way to create these filestems (Formating is the windows term) |
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| 10:12.31 | ChrisH | WG1337: exim is very flexible. But keep in mind, that most mailserver do not accept Mails from dialup domains and IPs without a reasonable PTR record in DNS |
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| 10:12.49 | BlenderPro | ChrisH: I'm aware mkfs.x uses different extensions but is confusing since both vfat and fat are fat16 and there is not mkfs.fat32 utility to use |
| 10:13.30 | Che-Anarc | Why it is that `service ssh restart` does nothing - needing me to do `/etc/init.d/ssh restart` ? |
| 10:13.37 | markybob | vfat is 32 not 16 |
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| 10:15.03 | roylaprattep | Damn, there is never 0 damn operators on this network.... |
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| 10:15.13 | WG1337 | ChrisH, do I even need a proper A, PTR or MX record for that matter if I only want to send mail? (local->dunnomail.com) |
| 10:15.50 | roylaprattep | WG1337: No. |
| 10:16.05 | WG1337 | I guess some servers do check if the sender matchers the FQDN |
| 10:16.12 | roylaprattep | WG1337: Only Postfix. |
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| 10:19.48 | roylaprattep | WG1337: What is your current setup ? |
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| 10:20.43 | WG1337 | roylaprattep, nothing. I keep checking out which server seems to be working and using less RAM |
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| 10:21.18 | roylaprattep | WG1337: Postfix does the job perfectly. |
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| 10:22.26 | WG1337 | roylaprattep, I think I will switch to postfix since its the only server I have used before, but exploring possibilities |
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| 10:26.53 | ChrisH | WG1337: if you did use Postfix before, use postfix. _I_ personally do not like postfix for things like, there is not way to test it withoput sending real mails out. Like exim -bt |
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| 10:43.02 | BlenderPro | is it possible to use the entire device to use a file system in like vfat with no partitions |
| 10:43.54 | hiexpo | yes |
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| 10:44.29 | Shadow_7 | although probably only linux could do anything with the device |
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| 10:45.07 | Shadow_7 | and bootloaders would mostly ignore it |
| 10:45.16 | hiexpo | yup |
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| 10:48.42 | Shadow_7 | and a high probability of accidently formatting the drive forgetting that it has useful data on it. |
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| 10:54.17 | apollo13 | mhm, getting https://dpaste.de/qU2b/raw currently, deb-src are enabled though, any ideas? |
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| 10:57.45 | Shadow_7 | apollo13: works for me... well 4:4.8.6+git...+dfsg-3+deb8u1 |
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| 10:58.06 | apollo13 | Shadow_7: that is stable right? |
| 10:58.12 | Shadow_7 | apollo13: yes stable. |
| 10:58.13 | apollo13 | I am on testing though |
| 10:58.32 | Shadow_7 | apollo13: heh... test failed... plus #debian-next on oftc |
| 10:58.51 | apollo13 | Shadow_7: interesting, works for stable too |
| 10:58.54 | apollo13 | (here) |
| 10:59.07 | apollo13 | well, just curious, not that I need it anways⦠|
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| 11:00.58 | livcd | Hi where in preseed.cfg can i add boot params ? |
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| 11:01.52 | t4nk696 | Hi, is anybody else having problems with 'update-flashplugin-nonfree'? |
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| 11:02.19 | t4nk696 | Seems like 'http://people.debian.org/' isn't reachable |
| 11:02.37 | apollo13 | yeah, probably down currently |
| 11:03.00 | t4nk696 | @apollo13 I see, thanks |
| 11:04.19 | Shadow_7 | I do my flash updates manually. new 11.2.202.559 yesterday |
| 11:05.18 | Shadow_7 | although I tend to need to hexedit the version number so windows versionist sites don't go YoJa on me. aka redneck, can't get there from here. |
| 11:05.25 | apollo13 | I removed flash completely :D |
| 11:05.31 | apollo13 | what do you need flash for? |
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| 11:05.45 | Shadow_7 | EA / pogo.com |
| 11:05.48 | Shadow_7 | and hulu |
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| 11:06.26 | hiexpo | just do flash manual change 2 files |
| 11:06.58 | t4nk696 | @hiexpo link how to do so? |
| 11:07.08 | livcd | can preseed set boot params ? oO |
| 11:07.09 | hiexpo | read the read me |
| 11:07.12 | Shadow_7 | I have it all symlinked to home. I just untar it and it's good. Although I rm -rf usr and rm -rf LGPL and rm readme.txt |
| 11:07.25 | Shadow_7 | messy little adobe product |
| 11:07.26 | t4nk696 | ok :) |
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| 11:08.59 | Shadow_7 | If you use the packaging system there's a link from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ to /etc/alternatives/ which links to /usr/...non-free-flash... something or other. I do my own /etc/alternatives link. |
| 11:09.21 | gl-prout | hello everyone |
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| 11:10.02 | Schnabeltierchen | where to get a sources list to update squeeze? |
| 11:10.35 | hiexpo | should be in it right |
| 11:10.37 | Shadow_7 | !sources.list |
| 11:10.37 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 11:10.55 | Shadow_7 | just swap jessie for squeeze afaik |
| 11:11.06 | hiexpo | train wreck |
| 11:11.14 | Schnabeltierchen | okay, i´ll try in a few moments |
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| 11:12.58 | hiexpo | do a fresh install |
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| 11:16.07 | BlenderPro | hi ChrisH hi all I wonder if debian has problems with exfat file systems |
| 11:16.14 | BlenderPro | can it read and write them properly? |
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| 11:17.07 | Johann | BlenderPro: i've had no problem with the fuse driver |
| 11:17.19 | Johann | not been using it much but it's still working |
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| 11:17.42 | Shadow_7 | fat filesystems are fine afaik. ntfs might be quirky still. But windows has it's quirks. artificial 32MB or was it GB limit. And tags it in it's own special way so knows if it wasn't created by windows. |
| 11:17.43 | BlenderPro | I have a cf card that has io errors when writting to it and the card has exfat |
| 11:18.22 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: but exfat is not as compatible as fat32 |
| 11:18.51 | BlenderPro | like debian had to install an additional component to mount it |
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| 11:25.04 | benG__ | hi all, having an amazing amount of trouble trying to get openvpn to stay alive using jessie. I need openvpn to stay up until NFS goes down - having fully unmounted everything from NFS. |
| 11:25.38 | benG__ | I have tried altering various systemd .service and .target files |
| 11:25.55 | benG__ | nothing seems to keep openvpn up for a reasonable amount of time |
| 11:26.45 | hiexpo | !openvpn |
| 11:26.46 | dpkg | OpenVPN is a <VPN> daemon, which can securely tunnel IP networks over one UDP or TCP port. Packaged for Debian, provides "openvpn" ifupdown hooks to <interfaces>. Add "script-security 2" in configuration files for use of external commands. Debian 8 "Jessie" users: see https://bugs.debian.org/785200 (fixed at openvpn 2.3.4-5+deb8u1, ask me about <spu>). https://openvpn.net/ #openvpn on irc.freenode.net. See also <easy-rsa>. |
| 11:27.28 | apollo13 | benG__: what do you mean by keep alive, if your connection dies, there is not much openvpn can do |
| 11:28.10 | benG__ | all I need it to do is hang around until NFS is unmounted |
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| 11:28.20 | benG__ | as NFS is mounted over the VPN connection |
| 11:28.47 | apollo13 | benG__: are you talking about a shutdown situation or what? |
| 11:28.54 | benG__ | yes apollo13 |
| 11:28.56 | apollo13 | ah |
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| 11:29.51 | benG__ | so at the moment, when a user powers off from a gnome session openvpn stops very quickly, hanging all the apps which are trying to shut down |
| 11:30.30 | benG__ | in this system the users home is mounted over NFS |
| 11:30.34 | apollo13 | benG__: wait, what does openvpn have to do with gnome :D |
| 11:30.43 | apollo13 | did you try after/before in the unit files? |
| 11:30.46 | benG__ | yes |
| 11:30.58 | ChrisH | benG__: sounds like a problem with openvpn unit file and the dependecy settings. |
| 11:30.59 | apollo13 | and you are using openvpn via /etc/openvpn or network manager? |
| 11:31.07 | benG__ | /etc/openvpn |
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| 11:31.55 | benG__ | ChrisH, I've set what I can in the systemd files |
| 11:32.35 | apollo13 | benG__: did you set it in the instance file or in the global service file? |
| 11:32.42 | apollo13 | ie openvpn@bla or openvpn |
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| 11:32.52 | benG__ | openvpn |
| 11:33.08 | Schnabeltierchen | Shadow_7 i think i have to replace jessy with "oldoldstable"... but didn´t work proplerly... |
| 11:33.22 | benG__ | though I've tried openvpn@myvpn too apollo13 |
| 11:33.42 | apollo13 | benG__: did you reload the systemctl daemon so that the conf file got acutally reread? |
| 11:33.44 | apollo13 | (just to be sure) |
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| 11:33.52 | benG__ | yes apollo13 |
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| 11:34.09 | benG__ | I rant the suggested deamon command |
| 11:34.22 | ChrisH | systemd has some usefull tools to show the dependency tree. and I assume you did the dependecy the wrong way. OpenVPN does not depend on NFSmount but theother way round. so you need to depend NFS on OpenVPN |
| 11:34.25 | apollo13 | mhm, then I am out of ideas :D I'd see in the systemd docs if there is a way to debug the startup/shutdown tree |
| 11:34.51 | apollo13 | maybe you need require/wantedby in addition to after/before to actually create a dependency |
| 11:34.52 | apollo13 | bbl |
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| 11:36.14 | Richthoffen | Hi guys :) |
| 11:36.17 | benG__ | ChrisH, "depend NFS on OpenVPN" I've specified them both ways round, a Requires in one file, Required in the other as appropriate |
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| 11:38.48 | benG__ | ah, I'm missing something to tell you apollo13, ChrisH, NFS in this case is mounted by autofs |
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| 11:43.15 | ChrisH | benG__: there is a Unit type .automount But I did not yet use and, nor did I use NFS over VPN |
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| 11:45.07 | Filystyn | HELLO |
| 11:45.09 | Filystyn | i need HELP |
| 11:45.15 | Filystyn | i want to download bro pages |
| 11:45.19 | Filystyn | hwo to do it with apt-get |
| 11:45.21 | Filystyn | possible? |
| 11:45.24 | Filystyn | for DEBIAN? |
| 11:45.27 | Filystyn | ANYONE!? |
| 11:45.32 | hiya | What is going on? |
| 11:45.41 | hiexpo | easy ramboo |
| 11:46.03 | Filystyn | waiting here for help |
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| 11:46.51 | hiexpo | help with what a pamper change? |
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| 11:47.38 | Filystyn | no, you show me how to INSTALL bropages |
| 11:47.41 | Filystyn | on debian |
| 11:47.43 | Filystyn | if they exist |
| 11:47.44 | Filystyn | ! |
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| 11:47.47 | hiexpo | cause I think you just shit yourself |
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| 11:48.35 | hiexpo | demandingdon't work here |
| 11:48.46 | Schnabeltierchen | try try aptitude search bropages |
| 11:48.54 | Filystyn | you hiexpo hurry and help me |
| 11:49.05 | hiexpo | kick rocks |
| 11:49.10 | Schnabeltierchen | if no result, no exist for your distro |
| 11:49.17 | Thraul | Filystyn: bro pages are a ruby gem package. Install ruby, then ruby gems then use the instructions on the bropages to isntall. |
| 11:49.31 | Filystyn | no they are a better manpages |
| 11:49.36 | hiexpo | don't help him |
| 11:49.39 | Filystyn | but i foudn nothing so |
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| 11:50.10 | Thraul | i had no idea what they were. took me two mintues to research and work it out lol |
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| 11:51.14 | Filystyn | yep debian has none of them |
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| 11:51.27 | peterrooney | I am afraid to find out what they might be |
| 11:52.06 | markybob | peterrooney, it'll make your brain hurt. http://bropages.org/ |
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| 11:52.38 | Schnabeltierchen | Filystyn go terminal, become root, type "apt-get install ruby rubygems", confirm, wait, type "gem install bropages", use your own brain |
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| 11:53.32 | Filystyn | they are installed atm |
| 11:53.34 | hiexpo | don't help him he demands help |
| 11:53.43 | Filystyn | good JOB people |
| 11:53.49 | Filystyn | IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A SOLUTION |
| 11:54.05 | Filystyn | without help of some certains sad person <looks on hiexpo> |
| 11:54.19 | Schnabeltierchen | sorry hiexpo |
| 11:54.26 | markybob | Filystyn, that's amazing. so awesome. i've never been happier in my life. good on you! |
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| 11:54.54 | peterrooney | markybob: you are right. holy fuck is that stuff ever offensive. |
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| 11:56.34 | teraflops | hiexpo: ah you mean a help vampire? |
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| 11:57.14 | hiexpo | ???????????/ teraflops |
| 11:57.26 | Schnabeltierchen | some kind of.. i just gave him what he needs to shut him up, his attitude wasn´t very appealing... |
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| 11:58.02 | hiexpo | i should have kicked or banned him but i wasn't logged in |
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| 11:58.13 | teraflops | Schnabeltierchen: I see |
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| 12:02.34 | Schnabeltierchen | just couldn´t endure how he was molesting hiexp :) |
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| 12:03.51 | hiexpo | lol |
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| 12:05.11 | Schnabeltierchen | so i went to the heroic rescue and snatched the princess from the evil monsters fangs! dadadaaaaa |
| 12:05.23 | lkfjfr | how do I get wifi to work on the new debian live gnome version? |
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| 12:06.02 | benG__ | ChrisH, I "fixed" it. Adding KillMode=none to the openvpn service files means systemd doesn't kill the vpn processes, which is absolutely fine |
| 12:06.20 | hiexpo | LMAO |
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| 12:06.33 | Schnabeltierchen | whois lkfjfr |
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| 12:06.47 | Schnabeltierchen | mhm... |
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| 12:06.57 | hiexpo | @ Schnabeltierchen |
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| 12:07.12 | lkfjfr | Schnabeltierchen: why? |
| 12:07.24 | Schnabeltierchen | cause i felt like it? |
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| 12:07.31 | lkfjfr | mhm... |
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| 12:08.31 | lkfjfr | Schnabeltierchen: do you know how to do it |
| 12:08.41 | lkfjfr | Schnabeltierchen: without a wired connection? |
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| 12:08.59 | Schnabeltierchen | nope |
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| 12:09.37 | glauxosdever | Hi, I made a silly installation configuration. I reserved no swap at all. Can I create a swap file that can be configured as such? |
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| 12:09.58 | glauxosdever | I don't want to reinstall anything. |
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| 12:10.24 | hiexpo | back to the drawing board |
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| 12:10.47 | glauxosdever | I'm able to use the shell. |
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| 12:11.09 | axel_fly | i got problem with flash |
| 12:11.15 | jwd | https://wiki.debian.org/Swap |
| 12:11.20 | teraflops | glauxosdever: sure. Use a swap file |
| 12:11.20 | hiexpo | !flash |
| 12:11.20 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 12:11.21 | axel_fly | get the following error on update-flashplugin-nonfree --verbose --install -> ERROR: wget failed to download http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/D5C0FC14/get-upstream-version.pl.gz.pgp |
| 12:11.37 | Schnabeltierchen | glauxosdever try resizing a partition, and mount a swap-partition like in tutorial on http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ |
| 12:11.55 | axel_fly | hiexpo: doesnt help your wiki page |
| 12:12.29 | hiexpo | huh axel_fly |
| 12:12.33 | axel_fly | can sombody use wget to fetch this package? if so, there might be a dns problem |
| 12:13.29 | glauxosdever | I have fears of resizing a partition. |
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| 12:14.14 | Schnabeltierchen | glauxosdever simpliest method is to boot a desktop, install gparted and do it with a gui... very easy... |
| 12:14.48 | glauxosdever | Yes, I have fears. It might fail. |
| 12:15.16 | Schnabeltierchen | do a systembackup with clonezilla (or something similar) |
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| 12:15.47 | glauxosdever | I'll make just a file. Anyway, in UNIX everything is a file. |
| 12:15.59 | Schnabeltierchen | do as you please ^^ |
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| 12:17.22 | glauxosdever | Where should the file get created? |
| 12:17.29 | glauxosdever | In which dir? |
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| 12:18.24 | glauxosdever | Which dirs are the most convenient? |
| 12:18.30 | Schnabeltierchen | that´s up to your favor´s i think... |
| 12:18.45 | glauxosdever | Well, I don't know. |
| 12:18.50 | Schnabeltierchen | axel_fly try https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing |
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| 12:20.11 | Schnabeltierchen | glauxosdever or try https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/3/html/System_Administration_Guide/s1-swap-adding.html :) |
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| 12:22.22 | glauxosdever | I don't know where the swap file will be safe. |
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| 12:23.18 | glauxosdever | Will it be safe in /usr/swapfile? |
| 12:23.40 | Schnabeltierchen | glauxosdever it will etablish an "swapfile" using a whole partition |
| 12:24.05 | glauxosdever | I don't want to create a partition now. |
| 12:24.37 | Schnabeltierchen | I don want to solve my problem now, just brag about it. |
| 12:24.59 | glauxosdever | No, resizing the partition may be disastrous. |
| 12:25.06 | glauxosdever | So I have fears of it. |
| 12:25.11 | Schnabeltierchen | (13:14:48) Freenode: do a systembackup with clonezilla (or something similar) |
| 12:25.41 | glauxosdever | Yes, I don't have enough external space for this. |
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| 12:26.55 | glauxosdever | If I create the file /usr/swapfile will it be ok? |
| 12:28.22 | glauxosdever | Will it be convenient? |
| 12:29.26 | Stummi | it would work |
| 12:29.52 | Stummi | it wouldn't be convenient, but you already made clear that you don't want the convenient way |
| 12:30.29 | glauxosdever | I'll know when installing next time. :-) |
| 12:30.45 | glauxosdever | If it will work, I think it's ok. |
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| 12:31.33 | glauxosdever | I just want to choose a path that nothing is likely to overwrite it. |
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| 12:34.12 | ChrisH | glauxosdever: next time use LVM and be more flexible |
| 12:37.33 | lkfjfr | so does anyone know how to get a wireless connection as a live user without a wire? :s |
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| 12:39.00 | hiexpo | no |
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| 12:39.42 | hiexpo | you have windoz lkfjfr ? |
| 12:40.03 | lkfjfr | hiexpo: yes |
| 12:40.12 | lkfjfr | where are the exe files |
| 12:40.17 | lkfjfr | :-) |
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| 12:40.25 | lkfjfr | </sarcasm> |
| 12:40.25 | hiexpo | use it |
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| 12:41.03 | hiexpo | linux is not for you |
| 12:41.09 | lkfjfr | lol |
| 12:41.30 | lkfjfr | I come from CentOS hiexpo |
| 12:41.43 | hiexpo | hey i just tell it like it is |
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| 12:43.45 | lkfjfr | hiexpo: I've just never used a debian based operating system before |
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| 12:44.14 | lkfjfr | CentOS is quite different |
| 12:44.28 | hiexpo | linux is linux |
| 12:44.38 | hiexpo | unix |
| 12:45.19 | gl-prout | gnu's not unix hiexpo =) |
| 12:45.36 | lkfjfr | ^ |
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| 12:47.13 | glauxosdever | Thank you! |
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| 13:44.14 | BlenderPro | I have a question about soundconverter, it can't convert any files not even ogg or flac |
| 13:44.17 | BlenderPro | what is wrong |
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| 13:45.03 | zaggynl | Any error messages? |
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| 13:45.13 | BlenderPro | zaggynl: hi |
| 13:45.24 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: you have to install packages for each format / codec. flac, opus, mp3, ... |
| 13:45.25 | BlenderPro | zaggynl: it says number of files and error liek 43 errors |
| 13:45.37 | BlenderPro | oh wow |
| 13:45.42 | BlenderPro | fmpeg maybe? |
| 13:46.06 | Shadow_7 | ffmpeg / avconv has a few of the codecs, but not all of them |
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| 13:46.39 | G33KY | I'm trying to install Debian onto this new Acer Cloudbook, but whenever I press 'install' on the GRUB boot menu for the installer, I just get a blank screen. Neither text nor graphical work. |
| 13:46.44 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: and do I have to install it on the sound converter directory or how does it find it |
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| 13:47.19 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: if you use the package manager it should be in the usual /lib/ places that most things find things in |
| 13:47.44 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: optional run strace around the app to see what it's trying to use. Then use apt-file to find it, and apt-get to get it |
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| 13:48.15 | Shadow_7 | strings on the app migth also give a list of sorts |
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| 13:49.12 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: what do you mean by running strace is that a program? |
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| 13:50.12 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: apt-get install strace && strace soundrecorder | grep -i open |
| 13:51.01 | BlenderPro | oh wow you're a pro thanks! |
| 13:51.11 | BlenderPro | I have no much space on my usb |
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| 13:51.32 | p0g0 | waits for BlenderPro to actually meet strace... |
| 13:51.35 | Shadow_7 | get a bigger usb... that's why it's usb |
| 13:52.01 | oskar- | Hello, I am trying to get "sudo" to work with LDAP authentication (package "libpam-ldap"). When entering the correct password, it outputs "sudo: PERM_ROOT: setresuid(0, -1, -1): Operation not permitted" and three further lines with "Operation not permitted". Do you have any hints on how I can get this working? |
| 13:52.08 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: it's a usb2 standard my usb3 is bigger but debian doesn't support usb3 and trust me I tried for months |
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| 13:52.36 | Shadow_7 | usb3 is revese compatible, except for the power spec. But a powered hub bridges that gap |
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| 14:04.22 | Hobbestigrou | hi |
| 14:04.33 | Hobbestigrou | i tried to install flash |
| 14:04.45 | Hobbestigrou | but apt-get freeze i don't know why |
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| 14:04.54 | Hobbestigrou | /home/hobbestigrou> sudo dpkg --configure -a |
| 14:04.56 | Hobbestigrou | Paramétrage de flashplugin-nonfree (1:3.6.1+b1) |
| 14:04.58 | glongo | hello, I've connected my laptop to a monitor through hdmi port but the monitor is not detected. any idea? |
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| 14:05.22 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: when I try running an installation of debian from usb3 stick I get initramfs prompt and tired of waiting for root partition do you know what module I need for the modules file to use? |
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| 14:06.00 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: you likely need to setup /etc/fstab and make sure that /boot/grub/grub.cfg uses UUIDs or LABELs |
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| 14:06.18 | Hobbestigrou | someone can help me ? |
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| 14:06.27 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: I'll try |
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| 14:06.31 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: the /dev/ names can flip flop when it's USB. |
| 14:07.00 | Shadow_7 | Hobbestigrou: flash needs to be downloaded after apt-get a package to downloaded with. |
| 14:07.02 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: you're talking about the block name? |
| 14:07.53 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: the root= for the kernel / vmlinuz line. root=/dev/... should be root=UUID=xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx |
| 14:08.19 | Hobbestigrou | Shadow_7, you mean i must download manually ? |
| 14:08.40 | Shadow_7 | Hobbestigrou: you must make sure that the network exists and DNS is setup |
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| 14:09.05 | Shadow_7 | and flash just had an update on the 28th, it might not be up to date in debian yet. |
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| 14:09.47 | Hobbestigrou | Shadow_7, yes for the network |
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| 14:09.52 | Hobbestigrou | how i can chekc for the dns ? |
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| 14:10.48 | Shadow_7 | Hobbestigrou: ping -c 2 sitename.tld ... like google.com or whatever... if name == IP then DNS = yes... or /etc/hosts compensates for non-DNS |
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| 14:11.06 | liberty_ | how can i split a webm video in more parts? i tried avconv -i input.webm -vcodec copy -acodec copy -ss 00:00:00 -t 00:01:00 output1.webm |
| 14:11.20 | liberty_ | but i get an error: [webm @ 0x910e520] Application provided invalid, non monotonically increasing dts to muxer in stream 0: 200 >= 200 |
| 14:11.25 | liberty_ | av_interleaved_write_frame(): Invalid argument |
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| 14:11.56 | Shadow_7 | liberty_: you might try -ss before the inputname |
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| 14:12.30 | glongo | how can I know which video driver is in use? |
| 14:13.01 | Shadow_7 | glongo: lsmod and checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:13.14 | liberty_ | Shadow_7: Unrecognized option '-ss' |
| 14:13.18 | liberty_ | Unrecognized option '-ss' |
| 14:13.26 | liberty_ | Failed to set value '00:00:00' for option '-ss' |
| 14:13.44 | Shadow_7 | liberty_: then you had -ss in the right place for avconv |
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| 14:14.30 | wmang | is it possible to pass a custom listfile to apt-get .... something like "apt-get -config my_sources.list upgrade" |
| 14:14.31 | Hobbestigrou | Shadow_7, dns ok |
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| 14:14.33 | liberty_ | yes, but hat could be the fault? |
| 14:14.34 | glongo | Shadow_7: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so, should be that one |
| 14:14.41 | Shadow_7 | liberty_: I think only mpeg can be arbitrarily split like that. You have to re-encode most other copecs. So copy probably wont work. |
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| 14:15.15 | Hobbestigrou | but continue to freeze |
| 14:15.28 | Shadow_7 | glongo: should have DRM or DRI or GL type stuff next to the one in use. But probably that one |
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| 14:16.11 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: http://paste.debian.net/356865/ should I change set root= values? I can't find root= alone |
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| 14:16.22 | BlenderPro | I been combating this problem for 6 months now |
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| 14:16.37 | oskar- | Ok, so one simple work-around to get "sudo" working together with LDAP authentication seems to be installing "libldap-2.4-2" from backports. |
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| 14:17.28 | Hobbestigrou | ok i find the problem |
| 14:17.30 | Hobbestigrou | thanks |
| 14:17.32 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: line 133 is one of them |
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| 14:21.55 | BlenderPro | thanks |
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| 14:22.42 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: what about line 126 do I need to correct that? and delete it or change it to my dev block name? |
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| 14:23.31 | Shadow_7 | no |
| 14:25.09 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: just the root= for the kernel... and /etc/fstab needs to match |
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| 14:26.52 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: blkid will give you the UUID and info about that partition in question |
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| 14:27.48 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: if /etc/fstab is setup for UUIDs, then update-grub will often grab the right naming convention |
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| 14:28.48 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: also kernel updates will rerun update-grub, so there's that which might undo your work. |
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| 14:31.16 | moldy | hi |
| 14:31.46 | moldy | wenn ich ein aktuelles stable mit einem sata-controller im ide-modus installiere und den controller anschlieÃend auf ahci schalte, bootet das nicht mehr. kann das jemand bestätigen? |
| 14:31.55 | moldy | muss ich neu installieren, um das zu fixen? |
| 14:33.03 | ChrisH | moldy: hier ist englisch die Sprache. No need to reinstall, most probably only the device file names shopuld have changed. use a rescue system like grml or netinst-CD to boot and check the situation. |
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| 14:33.08 | dvs | !debian.de |
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| 14:33.43 | moldy | ooops, sorry :) |
| 14:33.47 | mateus | hi you all.... im new on debian |
| 14:33.48 | moldy | i thought i was in #debian.de :) |
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| 14:34.02 | moldy | ChrisH: ah, ok. thanks. |
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| 14:35.50 | ChrisH | moldy: md device and/or LVM in place? There it should be done automagically |
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| 14:36.53 | moldy | ChrisH: no md, no lvm. i just used the netinst iso and ran the "install bootloader" step again, that fixed it. thanks! :) |
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| 14:39.52 | ChrisH | moldy: next time use LVM :) |
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| 14:44.50 | moldy | ChrisH: hmm, maybe. hard to convince my boss of it ;) |
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| 14:45.15 | moldy | and tbh, not sure if the additional complexity is worth it for this system |
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| 14:47.38 | mateus | hi all,,, i mnoob |
| 14:47.51 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: how do I know if my fstab is setup for uuids |
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| 14:49.41 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: nano /etc/fstab ... should be UUID=xxxx... / ext4 defaults 0 1 ... versus the /dev/... equivalent |
| 14:49.51 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: or LABLE= |
| 14:49.59 | Shadow_7 | LABEL=* |
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| 14:50.37 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: so I have to make sure the uuid for my root device is there along with the / mount point? |
| 14:50.47 | BlenderPro | and I should be good? :P |
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| 14:51.00 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: Mhmmm... should be all you need (to boot it) |
| 14:51.00 | azx | how do i remove a desktop environment |
| 14:51.19 | azx | i installed a bunch to try out and i have too many on limited space |
| 14:51.28 | azx | rm? |
| 14:51.43 | Shadow_7 | azx: apt-get remove <package(s)> |
| 14:51.46 | azx | thanks |
| 14:51.48 | azx | :D |
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| 14:53.14 | azx | when i run that command it does nothing but "selecting mate desktop environment instead of mate" |
| 14:53.36 | azx | 0 upgraded, 0 installed, |
| 14:54.10 | azx | it doesn't remove it |
| 14:54.43 | Shadow_7 | azx: dpkg -l | grep -i mate |
| 14:55.04 | Shadow_7 | there's generally more than one package per window manager / de |
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| 14:55.07 | mateus | hi |
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| 14:56.07 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: my fstab is right yet my usb3 stick can't boot, have you tried installing debian to a usb3 stick and boot succesfully? |
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| 14:56.33 | azx | shadow,. your command returned a list of files and stuff |
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| 14:57.42 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: I do it all the time |
| 14:57.59 | Shadow_7 | azx: apt-get remove <list of files and stuff> |
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| 14:58.22 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: can I mail you my usb stick and you work it out and tell me what wa wrong? :P |
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| 14:58.41 | BCMM | is there a way to get a software update notification icon in the tray, on lxde? |
| 14:58.47 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: do you get to grub? |
| 14:58.54 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: yes |
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| 14:59.07 | BCMM | seems like the old solution only works with gnome now, and kde has its own way, but not sure what to do on other DEs |
| 14:59.08 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: does it start to load the kernel? |
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| 15:00.26 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: it starts reading the image kernel but then it says can't wait for root partition dropping to a shell |
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| 15:00.55 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: the strange thing is when I connect this usb3 stick to a usb2 hub connected to a usb2 port It can boot |
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| 15:01.43 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: check for a bios/uefi update for your board |
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| 15:02.17 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: it can't boot from my laptop either only when I use the hub |
| 15:02.19 | Shadow_7 | it's still pretty early days for usb 3 (and uefi* |
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| 15:03.11 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: you might need to disable secure boot and enable legacy / csm |
| 15:03.19 | rindolf | Hi all! Happy holidays. How do I prevent the debian-8.2.0-xfce-x86-64 CD from contacting the network during graphical install? It takes forever to install Debian here. |
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| 15:03.50 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: or otherwise take care of the UEFI bits to not need that |
| 15:03.52 | mateus | hi all |
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| 15:04.29 | z4sk4 | hi all, how can i hide a deamon on system? |
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| 15:04.40 | z4sk4 | only can with rootkits? or maybe touching the kernel? |
| 15:04.41 | Shadow_7 | z4sk4: run windows |
| 15:04.45 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: I can boot from a usb2 stick directly without the hub that's why I say the usb3 drives are not detected by debian |
| 15:04.52 | z4sk4 | its for try to make a license on the system |
| 15:05.06 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: do you get to grub on usb3? |
| 15:05.14 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: yes |
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| 15:05.42 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: so probably an issue with grub then IMO. might need extra insmod efi stuff |
| 15:05.45 | z4sk4 | Shadow_7: i need do on Linux |
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| 15:06.02 | Shadow_7 | z4sk4: *nix's don't allow hiding stuff in the ps output. |
| 15:06.49 | Shadow_7 | you could rootkit it I suppose and swap out ps and friends. But the next update might undo your efforts |
| 15:07.11 | Shadow_7 | same with changing the kernel, the kernel updates often. |
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| 15:07.43 | z4sk4 | Shadow_7: show will be ilegal... the how can i run a service that nobody can turn off on the begining of system? |
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| 15:08.04 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: you think it may need drivers for efi? how can I confirm that |
| 15:08.04 | z4sk4 | not service... its only start a script to verificate that is not other pc |
| 15:08.24 | BCMM | z4sk4: why exactly are you trying to hide a daemon? maybe there is a saner solution? |
| 15:08.32 | rindolf | Anyone? |
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| 15:08.52 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: the modules are in /boot/grub/i386-pc |
| 15:08.59 | BCMM | is it intended to be hidden from the owners of the machine? if so, it sounds questionably legal |
| 15:09.19 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: the /boot/grub/grub.cfg should have an insmod for said module |
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| 15:09.42 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: oh that's true I forgot I'll look |
| 15:09.51 | Shadow_7 | z4sk4: that's what encryption is for, so only the user of the install has the key |
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| 15:10.51 | Shadow_7 | BCMM: and yet windows lets running apps to be hidden from task manager. |
| 15:11.17 | z4sk4 | BCMM, Shadow_7, I make a script to check the board. Because its on arm board, so people can clone the sdcard... so i wanna that the system always check if are in the same board... |
| 15:12.01 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: there are 100 modules which one should I look for |
| 15:12.13 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: *efi* |
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| 15:12.37 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: and that is machine dependant or that is to boot from usb3 on any pc |
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| 15:13.13 | edoardo | Hello |
| 15:13.19 | edoardo | Do anyone know what happened to Murdock? |
| 15:13.30 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: idk... never used the efi way. something about keys in the small dos partition. You could run ubuntu or fedora that are signed with the microsoft keys and has fewer steps |
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| 15:13.52 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: something about being beaten by police or something last night |
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| 15:14.53 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: there are 3 efi modules should I try loading all 3 or 1 by 1 |
| 15:14.54 | edoardo | yeah |
| 15:15.11 | edoardo | btw, Shadow_7, i solved my issue moving my vps to KVM |
| 15:15.15 | Shadow_7 | BlenderPro: try all 3, at worse it doesn't work... although probably don't need the 32 one |
| 15:15.24 | edoardo | this way i can also use an optimized kernel for audio |
| 15:15.32 | edoardo | and get higher performance |
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| 15:16.49 | z4sk4 | is possible to add a verification script always that kernel start? |
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| 15:18.41 | rindolf | Bleh! The installation is finally complete, but I think I'm going to report this as a bug. |
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| 15:20.54 | Shadow_7 | !uefi |
| 15:20.54 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases support installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. http://www.uefi.org/ |
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| 15:28.07 | teaearlgraycold | So I was running sfill from the secure-delete package, but the command didn't finish properly. I removed the temp-file it had created to fill up the hard disk manually afterwards and yet I'm still without any free space |
| 15:29.09 | teaearlgraycold | I'm not out of inodes, and my disk claims 100% usage (although only a fraction is actually in use). |
| 15:29.20 | Shadow_7 | Sometimes you have to restart syslogd to free up space. At least has to a decade-ish ago. |
| 15:29.22 | teaearlgraycold | So should I wipe and resinstall or am I just missing something |
| 15:29.35 | teaearlgraycold | I'll try that I guess |
| 15:29.36 | Shadow_7 | it'll probably free on reboot |
| 15:30.08 | teaearlgraycold | "Unit syslogd.service failed to load: No such file or directory." |
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| 15:30.20 | blind | I'm having trouble getting a bluetooth headset to stay connected on Debian 8 with KDE (not sure how much the KDE matters...). I can see with bluetoothctl that it does connect, but it very shortly disconnects and I'm not sure why. It is a macbook, and the headset works without issue in OS X so I know it's not fault of the adapter or the headset. |
| 15:30.24 | teaearlgraycold | I guess service syslogd restart isn't the command Im' looking for |
| 15:31.01 | blind | Nothing noteworthy in dmesg and I can't figure out a way to get more verbose output out of bluetoothctl, if that's even possible. |
| 15:31.10 | Shadow_7 | or is and legit failing. service --status-all |
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| 15:33.42 | teaearlgraycold | Shadow_7: it's up |
| 15:33.57 | teaearlgraycold | I've backed up my user so I'll reboot and see how that goes |
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| 15:38.25 | sigdk | Hello. Certain sites complain that I haven't installed the latest version of Flash player |
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| 15:38.49 | sigdk | Nevertheless, I have installed flashplugin-nonfree packages |
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| 15:38.54 | sigdk | *package |
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| 15:39.06 | sigdk | is there anything else I can do ? |
| 15:39.52 | Shadow_7 | sigdk: use chromium |
| 15:40.11 | Shadow_7 | sigdk: or hexedit the libflashplayer.so to reflect a windows version |
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| 15:40.42 | Shadow_7 | btw, new flash version 12/28 |
| 15:40.58 | BlenderPro | how do I install ffmpeg in debian |
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| 15:41.09 | sigdk | Shadow_7, chromium is a browser... that's the one I use |
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| 15:41.17 | BlenderPro | Shadow_7: I put 3 insmods gonna test it soon thanks for the info |
| 15:42.09 | sigdk | Shadow_7, can you give me more info for the second approach ? |
| 15:42.26 | xtort- | BlenderPro: its avconv now |
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| 15:43.19 | xtort- | BlenderPro: its under libav-tools package |
| 15:43.19 | BlenderPro | xtort-: really wow |
| 15:44.46 | Shadow_7 | sigdk: I made a youtube video about it when pogo go wanky on us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hEYuSbBsmU |
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| 15:47.36 | Shadow_7 | sigdk: from the download page for flashplayer (adobe.com) click the for other OS, then click archived versions to find out what the current windows version is |
| 15:48.26 | Shadow_7 | sigdk: otherwise see if update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree helps with chromium |
| 15:48.30 | sigdk | Shadow_7, The video is for iceweasel. Tbh, flash player already works ok there. It's the chromium that has problems |
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| 15:48.56 | sigdk | thanks though |
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| 15:49.08 | Shadow_7 | or wait three days for things to settle |
| 15:49.28 | Shadow_7 | new flash from adobe yesterday |
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| 15:58.39 | z4sk4 | hi how can put a persistent script on the startup ?? the idea its that root and nobody can touch it |
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| 16:00.29 | Shadow_7 | root can always touch it |
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| 16:00.51 | Shadow_7 | and nobody is an actual user used by a few things |
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| 16:02.57 | z4sk4 | Shadow_7: show what can i do for make a persistant startup script? maybe touching the kernel? |
| 16:03.56 | Shadow_7 | there is no real persistence. everything is a file on a filesystem. and files can be deleted or corrupted |
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| 16:05.08 | xtort- | edit /etc/rc.local, but stuff in there, chmod it properly |
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| 16:07.13 | Shadow_7 | If it's for a particular in house piece of software, you can have that software validate the hardware |
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| 16:07.49 | Shadow_7 | pis and such have a serial number in /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 16:08.10 | BlenderProXPwned | hello I installed sound converter but it gives me errors when I want to convert to flac or ogg anyone knows why? the input are mp4 videos |
| 16:08.35 | z4sk4 | Shadow_7: its that i did, i get the MAC, and the idea if somebody steal me the sdcard, the system never go up |
| 16:09.14 | z4sk4 | but if u stop the startup of that check, u can clone it and start it... so that is my dude |
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| 16:09.35 | Shadow_7 | BlenderProXPwned: apt-get install flac libvorbis-dev |
| 16:09.44 | z4sk4 | Shadow_7: i can do for software, but i wanna do on system to |
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| 16:12.33 | BlenderProXPwned | Shadow_7: I install can't convert to ogg or flac using soundconverter |
| 16:12.38 | BlenderProXPwned | I still* |
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| 16:13.31 | Shadow_7 | BlenderProXPwned: any reason to use soundconverter? avconv / ffmpeg can convert. sox. audacity. ... ... |
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| 16:13.46 | BlenderProXPwned | you're right I have audacity too |
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| 16:18.31 | BlenderProXPwned | Shadow_7: I have to open the file in audacity, is there a way to convert it without opening it first? |
| 16:18.33 | benaiah | what's a good mspaint-like program for debian? gimp's got too many features and too long of a startup time for what I want - I just need a simple pixel wrangler |
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| 16:19.10 | blind | benaiah: try Pinta ? |
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| 16:40.13 | lazy8 | How can I install the kde shell in debian |
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| 16:41.26 | markybob | lazy8, sudo apt-get install konsole |
| 16:41.49 | nux | never reported a bug before...with wheezy rsnapshot worked with: --rsync-path="ionice -c3 nice -n 19 rsync" in rsync_long_args. since upgrading to jessie it broke. just had to change the " to ' think that's worth creating a bug about |
| 16:41.59 | markybob | lazy8, unless you're talking about kde in general and didn't use the term "shell" properly. then just sudo apt-get install kde |
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| 16:42.32 | moldy | nux: does the behavior match the documentation? |
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| 16:43.25 | nux | from man pages: Quotes are permitted in rsync_long_args |
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| 16:43.42 | nux | that was a good question |
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| 16:45.18 | nux | seems related to: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743310 but not exactly |
| 16:45.19 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/743310 in rsnapshot (closed): «rsnapshot: Program calls with arguments containing quotations mark don't work anymore»; severity: important; opened: 2014-04-01; last modified: 2015-06-28. |
| 16:46.12 | lazy8 | How can you compile a program in debian |
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| 16:46.27 | moldy | nux: looks like a bug then, yep |
| 16:46.29 | throwthecheese | Hi |
| 16:46.29 | nux | install the package to build and let er rip |
| 16:46.31 | nux | moldy: ty |
| 16:46.33 | throwthecheese | everyone |
| 16:46.39 | moldy | nux: might be the same bug actually, not sure |
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| 16:47.08 | throwthecheese | For some reason, Blender Render hates Nouveau |
| 16:47.09 | markybob | lazy8, you read the instructions of said program. they usually have a README file |
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| 16:59.35 | cluelessperson | Is there a better LDAP client that I can install on servers? |
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| 16:59.49 | cluelessperson | install of this PAM_LDAP module that's old as balls? |
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| 17:09.05 | baum | by chance someone could tell me why "Xorg -configure" segfaults? the logs: http://paste.debian.net/356904/ |
| 17:09.40 | baum | there are quite a few errors logged, at which one should be started? |
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| 17:12.27 | cluelessperson | Anyone know of a better ldap option? |
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| 17:15.47 | jelly | cluelessperson: libpam-ldapd + nslcd, probably |
| 17:16.51 | jelly | or maybe look at sssd ? |
| 17:17.20 | jelly | is just taking educated guesses and has not seriously tested any of those |
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| 17:32.29 | quarterback | Anybody familiar with Squid3 proxy server? I created a password with the command htpasswd -b squid_passwords username password but the proxy server is not accepting authentications with a webserver. What could be the reason? |
| 17:32.34 | Guest22956 | tell me how to load the driver module wi-fi intel 4965? I xfce-wavelan plugin does not display available networks |
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| 17:34.53 | markybob | Guest22956, https://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy |
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| 17:36.28 | Guest22956 | wiki could not help me, it is written that the status of the driver is loaded, but no available networks |
| 17:37.05 | laidback_01 | quarterback, squid3 logs pretty well. you need to determine what KIND of authentication you are using to being with, as squid works with several types of authentication. |
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| 18:00.24 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 18:04.27 | teraflops | blind: pulseaudio or alsa? |
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| 18:04.48 | blind | teraflops: pulseaudio |
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| 18:06.56 | teraflops | blind: tried `pactl load-module module-bluetooth-policy` and `pactl load-module module-bluez5-discover` prior launching bluetoothctl and doing connect? |
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| 18:08.22 | teraflops | if that works just tune your /etc/pulse/default.pa for doing things automatically |
| 18:08.54 | teraflops | or in ~/ ... |
| 18:09.05 | blind | module initialization failed... |
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| 18:09.17 | teraflops | blind: both of them? |
| 18:09.30 | teraflops | then they are loaded I suppose |
| 18:09.35 | blind | yeah on both |
| 18:09.38 | teraflops | ok |
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| 18:10.34 | teraflops | blind: and the bt headset is paired and trusted? |
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| 18:10.46 | blind | I also tried using "hcitool" to pair and connect per some other guide, it does the same thing, it connects for maybe 2 seconds and then doesn't connect again unless prodded, and then only for a second still |
| 18:11.07 | blind | yeah, paired it multiple times, trusted and everything |
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| 18:11.54 | teraflops | blind: something interesting in the logs? |
| 18:12.11 | teraflops | journalctl| grep -i blue ? |
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| 18:13.34 | blind | journalctl says no journal files found. dmesg has something that doesn't seem very interesting but maybe I'm wrong.. http://termbin.com/ritq |
| 18:13.50 | teraflops | blind: as root? |
| 18:13.53 | blind | oh you know what, thats wifi isn't it |
| 18:13.55 | teraflops | jornalvtl as root |
| 18:14.31 | teraflops | ctl* |
| 18:14.44 | blind | that works, but nothing since the modules not loading from the pactl stuff |
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| 18:14.59 | DoctorD90 | guys, do you suggest wayland? |
| 18:15.05 | JohnnyL | grep "\(([^)]*?)\)" freeb.txt |
| 18:15.10 | JohnnyL | works here: http://www.regexr.com/3cg5a |
| 18:15.14 | JohnnyL | but not under linux. |
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| 18:15.43 | greycat | What is it supposed to do? |
| 18:16.13 | teraflops | blind: what about sudo journalctl -f in one terminal and doing the bluetoothctl in another one? |
| 18:16.24 | greycat | Oh, that *? thing... that is not normal. What is that, some perl-thing? |
| 18:17.03 | greycat | Neither BRE (grep) nor ERE (grep -E, egrep) has *? in it. |
| 18:17.05 | JohnnyL | 0 or 1 of one or more chacter. |
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| 18:17.16 | JohnnyL | ah ok |
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| 18:17.27 | greycat | If you just want "0 or 1 of this", that's ? not *? |
| 18:17.42 | JohnnyL | ok |
| 18:17.46 | JohnnyL | what is the work around? |
| 18:18.00 | greycat | If you enable JS on that page and mouse-hover on the *? it says it's for lazy evaluation. BRE and ERE have nothing like that at all. |
| 18:18.10 | greycat | Work around *for what*? What is it you wanted to do? |
| 18:18.39 | blind | a2dp-sink profile connect failed: Protocol not available. ahhh finally an error message |
| 18:18.56 | greycat | If what you wanted to do is "drop this Perl RE into a script", then write the script in perl. Or at least have it call perl. |
| 18:19.04 | teraflops | blind: so is about pulseuadio modules |
| 18:19.05 | JohnnyL | brilliant, thanks greycat ! |
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| 18:19.30 | JohnnyL | hm, still doesn't work, now it catches everything. |
| 18:19.42 | greycat | plays "Ask what they want, and they don't answer, so guess what they want, over and over, until they nod." Again. :( |
| 18:20.04 | JohnnyL | how do I just capture everything inside the () and nothing else? |
| 18:20.10 | blind | teraflops: oh geez, I was missing "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth" package.. |
| 18:20.20 | teraflops | blind: try this one `pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover` |
| 18:20.35 | greycat | JohnnyL: Are you trying to extract one piece of a line of text? |
| 18:20.45 | teraflops | blind: :O |
| 18:20.52 | teraflops | heh |
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| 18:21.05 | JohnnyL | trying to create a list of everything inside () from the file on regexr.com/3cg5a. |
| 18:22.14 | greycat | I don't even understand. File? There is a file? All I see is a regex. And half the screen taken up with some kind of nav menu. And 45% of the screen taken up with biblio links. |
| 18:22.51 | greycat | And it doesn't even give metadata about the regex, like "This is perl syntax" or anything. |
| 18:22.55 | JohnnyL | in linux, what is *not* a file? |
| 18:23.23 | greycat | Wait. ... Wait. Are the biblio links your INPUT and not REFERENCES THAT EXPLAIN THE REGEX? |
| 18:23.28 | teraflops | JohnnyL: nah youre talking about plan9 :P |
| 18:23.39 | JohnnyL | teraflops: :p |
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| 18:23.51 | blind | teraflops: yay it stays connected! Thanks for your help!! |
| 18:23.56 | teraflops | blind: np |
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| 18:24.58 | JohnnyL | How do I enable global in grep? |
| 18:25.29 | greycat | If you just want to print the parenthesized part of EVERY LINE of a FILE, you can use this: grep -o '([^)]*)' |
| 18:25.43 | greycat | continues to play GUESS WHAT THE FUCK THE GOAL IS |
| 18:26.03 | greycat | Of course this assumes there is only one ( and one ) on each line. |
| 18:26.08 | greycat | continues to play GUESS WHAT THE FUCK THE GOAL IS |
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| 18:26.21 | JohnnyL | sorry I made you mad. i'll go elsewhere. |
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| 18:26.59 | abrotman | not exactly a Debian problem anyway .. |
| 18:27.14 | greycat | I did give a Debian answer, though. grep -o is a GNU extension. |
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| 18:27.30 | greycat | Can't be done with POSIX grep. POSIX grep only writes whole lines, NEVER partial lines. |
| 18:27.53 | Agiofws | is there anything to point out if i want to install jessie on a separate hard drive on a dual boot system ? first disk has windows 7 and i'd like to intall jessie on the second disk |
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| 18:28.13 | Agiofws | is there anything i should know about where to install grub? |
| 18:28.19 | greycat | If you plan to boot it, you'll need to install GRUB on the first hard disk. |
| 18:28.32 | greycat | Unless there's some new UEFI thing that avoids that. |
| 18:28.36 | teraflops | Agiofws: yes, the bootloader |
| 18:28.44 | Agiofws | will it uninstall windows bootloader? |
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| 18:29.08 | Agiofws | or right on top of it? |
| 18:29.14 | greycat | It should overwrite it. |
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| 18:29.38 | Agiofws | following jessie's installation cd should guid me through it right>? |
| 18:29.42 | teraflops | Agiofws: efi or bios+mbr? |
| 18:29.48 | teraflops | uefi* |
| 18:29.58 | Agiofws | teraflops: what does that mean? |
| 18:30.03 | teraflops | ? |
| 18:30.11 | greycat | It means you've got some reading ahead of you. |
| 18:30.18 | teraflops | yeah |
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| 18:31.04 | Agiofws | this is a windows host if that means anything about uefi or bios+mbr |
| 18:31.22 | greycat | One of the shortcomings of the Debian installer, for me, is that it does not clearly tell me whether it has booted in UEFI or BIOS mode, and what mode my disk is in, etc. |
| 18:31.37 | greycat | Agiofws: unfortunately that doesn't determine it. |
| 18:31.43 | teraflops | Agiofws: this one is gold, https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/ |
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| 18:32.37 | Agiofws | should i check what mode my hard disk is in? |
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| 18:36.17 | Iresf | i have an laptop with amd cpu A8 6410 quad core wich distro linux is good for my laptop ? |
| 18:36.24 | greycat | Debian. |
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| 18:36.49 | Iresf | greycat : really ? |
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| 18:37.04 | dontknow | Iresf, debian xfce |
| 18:37.23 | teraflops | Iresf: what do you expect? you asked in #debian ... |
| 18:37.30 | dontknow | lol |
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| 18:43.28 | Agiofws | teraflops: greycat ok should i check what kind of booting method my motherboard uses? |
| 18:43.39 | greycat | yes |
| 18:43.44 | Agiofws | and what does jessie use uefi or bios? |
| 18:43.52 | greycat | The CD can be booted either way. |
| 18:44.06 | greycat | It can be tricky to DETERMINE which way it was booted, because it doesn't just say so on the screen. |
| 18:44.27 | Agiofws | booting into bios will tell me what kind of booting method i'm using? |
| 18:45.00 | Agiofws | or specs of the mobo will tell me? |
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| 18:47.37 | Agiofws | does h61m-k asus ring a bell ? |
| 18:47.38 | greycat | There are essentially two questions: (1) does your machine *support* booting in UEFI, BIOS, or both? (2) Is your existing operating system (Windows) disk formatted in GPT mode or MBR mode? |
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| 18:48.22 | greycat | It's no good booting your UEFI-capable machine in UEFI mode and installing Debian side by side with Windows on an MBR-formatted disk. TRUST ME. I know this from experience. : ( |
| 18:48.35 | greycat | Workplace standard issue box. |
| 18:49.17 | wuttha489 | Hi, can't seem to get debian booting on uefi... I work with stable systems so I rarely do this. I've got grub (obviously) install disk is fat32 with lba and boot flags, did the copy normally (cp iso device) but it isn't booting. Am I missing something? I'm using amd64 |
| 18:49.56 | greycat | You're trying to boot UEFI from a USB device? |
| 18:50.01 | greycat | Not from a CD? |
| 18:50.01 | wuttha489 | #join #djgrigroig |
| 18:50.04 | wuttha489 | sorry |
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| 18:50.56 | wuttha489 | thinks it's better to leave now |
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| 18:51.29 | Agiofws | greycat: box of mobo says "the best UEFI bios" .... |
| 18:51.50 | greycat | So the machine is probably UEFI-capable. That leaves the disk. |
| 18:52.07 | wuttha489 | greycat: are you having uefi issues too? |
| 18:52.40 | Agiofws | ok how can i check about the disk thats using windows? |
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| 18:53.21 | greycat | I don't know my way around Windows very well. You need to see if the Windows disk is formatted in GPT mode, or not. Or see if it has a small EFI partition. |
| 18:53.27 | Agiofws | https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H61MK/ |
| 18:53.53 | wuttha489 | oh hmm I'll try in gpt then |
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| 18:56.58 | Agiofws | You need to see if the Windows disk is formatted in GPT mode, or not. Or see if it has a small EFI partition. ? |
| 18:57.14 | Agiofws | whats windows disk manager |
| 18:57.29 | greycat | Sounds like a program. Maybe? How would I know? |
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| 19:00.13 | greycat | http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/292184-32-partition-table |
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| 19:05.18 | ihsw | can i convert a docker container to a deb file? |
| 19:06.46 | Agiofws | ok greycat it says partition style matser boot record MBR on the disk that windows 7 is installed on ... |
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| 19:07.27 | greycat | Then you need to make sure you boot the Debian installer in MBR/BIOS mode, *not* in UEFI mode. |
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| 19:07.47 | greycat | How to do that is entirely dependent on your firmware. |
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| 19:10.23 | Agiofws | greycat: but my bios is using the uefi method? |
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| 19:10.50 | greycat | Your firmware is *capable* of using UEFI, but you don't want to do that, because your other operating system is not installed that way. |
| 19:11.01 | greycat | You want both OSs to be installed the same way. |
| 19:11.22 | Agiofws | so i want both os installed on mbr type partitions? |
| 19:11.27 | Agiofws | OS's |
| 19:11.30 | greycat | yes |
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| 19:12.03 | Agiofws | and thats why i need bios's method of booting and not EUFI ? |
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| 19:19.17 | DoctorD90 | ehm...little issue....I have installed GNOME...it has libreoffice installed. I removed it. it has removed also "gnome". Now it ask me to autoremove MANY packages.... |
| 19:19.24 | DoctorD90 | how to not allow it? |
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| 19:19.47 | DoctorD90 | i would just to get out libreoffice from gnome, and install from .debs (that i have yet installed) |
| 19:20.03 | centrx | DoctorD90, Install 'gnome-core', remove 'gnome' |
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| 19:20.09 | dvs | DoctorD90: Take autoremove off of gnome |
| 19:20.47 | DoctorD90 | centrx, thx. dvs, i havent well understood you |
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| 19:21.09 | Agiofws | is jessie stable? |
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| 19:21.16 | centrx | Agiofws, yes |
| 19:21.19 | DoctorD90 | yes Agiofws |
| 19:21.42 | DoctorD90 | centrx, it says me that gnome-core is yet installed .-. |
| 19:21.53 | DoctorD90 | but still wants premove so many packages |
| 19:22.01 | centrx | DoctorD90, What is "yet installed"? |
| 19:22.04 | DoctorD90 | like gnome-clocks .-. |
| 19:22.10 | greycat | centrx: He means already installed. |
| 19:22.23 | DoctorD90 | sorry. alrady installed. thx greycat |
| 19:22.42 | greycat | Spanish ya = English "yet/already". Spanish decir = English say/tell. |
| 19:22.47 | centrx | DoctorD90, do 'apt-get install gnome-core' to set it to be manually installed, so the autoremove thing recognizes it |
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| 19:23.49 | DoctorD90 | centrx, i have run gnome-core, and it says it is already installed. And I can remove package not more required, like .....(many packages) |
| 19:24.15 | DoctorD90 | transmission, unrar, nmap |
| 19:24.22 | DoctorD90 | i would keep it |
| 19:24.27 | DoctorD90 | them* |
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| 19:25.14 | centrx | DoctorD90, The autoremove thing shows packages that were automatically installed, and makes them easier to remove |
| 19:25.28 | centrx | DoctorD90, So you can do the same thing with those other packages that you want to set as manually installed |
| 19:25.29 | Agiofws | greycat: making the debian netinstall cd boot in mbr/bios mode depends on whatmy bios settings are ? |
| 19:25.52 | dvs | !tell DoctorD90 about unmarkauto |
| 19:26.11 | Agiofws | or will it figure it out on itself ? |
| 19:26.19 | Agiofws | its self* |
| 19:26.30 | DoctorD90 | dvs, ...really. I love you :D great!!!! |
| 19:26.46 | dvs | no prob |
| 19:27.11 | dvs | I just couldn't remember what it was called. |
| 19:27.24 | DoctorD90 | eve if....naaa never mind :D |
| 19:28.28 | Agiofws | ? |
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| 19:29.50 | DoctorD90 | but isnt more easy to update libreoffice repository with latest 5x version? 0o |
| 19:30.05 | Agiofws | is amd64 for a intel pentium CPU G2130 @ 3.20GHZ ? |
| 19:30.55 | dvs | Agiofws: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 19:31.15 | Agiofws | i'm on windows... |
| 19:31.54 | DoctorD90 | Agiofws, if it is 64bit, yes |
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| 19:32.25 | knownbad | Instruction Set. |
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| 19:34.02 | jhappa | debian should boot on uefi using grub 2.02 beta 2-29 right? |
| 19:34.30 | greycat | Agiofws: if you let it figure out for itself, it will almost certainly choose to boot in UEFI mode which is NOT what you want. You need to go into your firmware and find out how to boot a CD in Legacy/MBR/BIOS mode. |
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| 19:35.07 | Agiofws | how can i check if i am using bios style booting or UEFI style booting ? do i have to boot into bios to check this out? |
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| 19:36.00 | greycat | Yes. You have to go into your firmware (you are calling it "BIOS" but that's deprecated terminology) and press random keys until you find it. |
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| 19:37.12 | Agiofws | so i have to tell "bios" or my firmware to boot the net install cd in legacy/mbr/bios mode? |
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| 19:38.22 | dvs | Agiofws: You just have to tell your BIOS/firmware to boot in legacy or BIOS more, not Secure Boot. |
| 19:38.37 | dvs | s/more/mode/ |
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| 19:39.57 | knownbad | More generally, Disable/Not Enable Secure Boot or UEFI from BIOS. |
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| 19:43.00 | Agiofws | http://blogs.technet.com/b/home_is_where_i_lay_my_head/archive/2012/10/02/how-to-check-in-windows-if-you-are-using-uefi.aspx |
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| 19:47.02 | jhappa | Agiofws: you can look up which button to mash on startup for your hardware |
| 19:47.10 | jhappa | Agiofws: mine's delete |
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| 19:47.45 | greycat | Wow, that's uncommon. Usually it's ESC or F1 or some other function key. |
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| 19:48.23 | dvs | greycat: Nah, I find it's usually DEL or F12 |
| 19:48.29 | greycat | Also, some computers only support firmware interaction via a front-port USB keyboard, not a rear-port USB keyboard. (Mine is like that. Really threw me for a loop...) |
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| 19:51.06 | jhappa | greycat: can you help me with my uefi problem? I'm baffled |
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| 19:51.41 | jhappa | I've got grub, install disk is gpt with boot flag |
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| 19:52.26 | jhappa | already tried msdos table with boot and lba |
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| 19:53.09 | jhappa | legacy works :/ |
| 19:53.18 | jhappa | and I have amd64 |
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| 19:53.52 | greycat | If the disk boots in legacy mode, why not just leave it that way? |
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| 19:55.40 | jhappa | greycat: I want to use more than 2 terabyte |
| 19:55.53 | jhappa | and that's not possible with legacy |
| 19:56.07 | greycat | Ok, well, if you want to boot from a hard disk in UEFI mode, it has to be in GPT mode, and it has to have a properly stocked EFI partition. |
| 19:56.16 | dvs | jhappa: Your boot partition need to be within the first 2 terabytes |
| 19:56.16 | Agiofws | greycat: Callback_BootEnvironmentDetect: Detected boot environment: BIOS do i still need to make sure that my bios will boot my cd in legasy mode or not? |
| 19:56.22 | greycat | And I don't know how to do all of that off hand, so I hope the installer can do it all for you. |
| 19:57.25 | greycat | Agiofws: I have no idea in what context that message appears. |
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| 19:57.49 | Agiofws | in windows a method to discover what mode your firmware is using |
| 19:58.04 | greycat | Again. I do not know Windows. |
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| 19:58.09 | Agiofws | http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/29504-bios-mode-see-if-windows-boot-uefi-legacy-mode.html |
| 19:58.10 | Agiofws | ok |
| 19:58.20 | Agiofws | thank you for you help be well |
| 19:58.23 | greycat | But you already KNEW your Windows system was using a MBR-formatted disk, so this *is not news*. |
| 19:58.37 | Agiofws | hmm ok |
| 19:58.48 | greycat | Just additional confirmation that you need to use Legacy/MBR/BIOS mode for everything if you want the two to coexist. |
| 19:59.41 | Agiofws | ok |
| 19:59.44 | Agiofws | thank you |
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| 20:04.23 | knownbad | jhappa: How do you create installation media? |
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| 20:05.17 | jhappa | knownbad: gparted |
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| 20:06.45 | jhappa | knownbad: I tried both msdos (flags boot and lba) and gpt (boot flag), both with fat32 |
| 20:06.57 | knownbad | I meant bootable media. I had problem with installation media created under Windows, they're created either MBR or UEFI. And that threw me off when attempted to install in UEFI. |
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| 20:08.50 | knownbad | For example, using Rufus. https://rufus.akeo.ie/ |
| 20:09.20 | jhappa | knownbad: I'm just using the cp command as instructed on the debian webpage |
| 20:09.47 | knownbad | You'll need to specify Partition scheme as UEFI explicitly in order to boot into UEFI. |
| 20:10.02 | knownbad | OK, then please ignore what I said. |
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| 20:13.32 | knownbad | Do you happen to use Dell computer? |
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| 20:16.57 | jhappa | knownbad: nope |
| 20:16.58 | jhappa | msi |
| 20:17.21 | Shadow_7 | I have a dumpster dived xp laptop that used to be a dell |
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| 20:18.47 | knownbad | Under Dell BIOS, F12 during boot will bring up boot menu. You may specify either to boot legacy device or UEFI media. I don't know whether MSI has similar options. |
| 20:18.56 | knownbad | But good luck to you. |
| 20:19.32 | Shadow_7 | the internal drive failed years ago. It boots from usb without pushing any buttons except power. It also pre-dates efi |
| 20:19.32 | jhappa | ah found the issue |
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| 20:20.16 | jhappa | "The accompanying live images do not have support for UEFI boot, as the live-build software used to generate them still does not include it. Hopefully the debian-live developers will add this important feature soon. " |
| 20:20.17 | Shadow_7 | My hp stream 11 uses ESC to select the boot media |
| 20:20.28 | grnmtn | i'm having trouble figuring out how resolv.conf files are generated. i have an interfaces file that specifies one dhcp interface, one static. if i delete my /etc/resolv.conf file and reboot, it is recreated, containing |
| 20:20.38 | jhappa | must've looked over it before, thanks anyways |
| 20:20.44 | Shadow_7 | !uefi |
| 20:20.44 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases support installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. http://www.uefi.org/ |
| 20:20.58 | grnmtn | the dns server entries from my dhcp server. however, it does not populate the search domain that i have specified in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. if i delete the file, and run dhclient manually, the search domain is populated in the file |
| 20:21.05 | grnmtn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:21.45 | Shadow_7 | The shutdown probably releases the lease. dhclient -r |
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| 20:23.42 | _abc_ | Hello. Just updated (auto - never again) Android Studio 1.5 and it broke adb by requiring GLIBC_2.14 . There is a way to add testing to the repos and upgrade only that, can someone please comment on this? (note: NO upgrading to jessie, this machine needs to work) |
| 20:23.58 | grnmtn | Shadow_7: do you know what dhclient is used to bring up the interface on startup? it seems to ignore my /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf settings, unlikely manually running dhclient |
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| 20:24.46 | Shadow_7 | grnmtn: idk. there's many though... dhclient, dhcpcd, ... ... |
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| 20:25.10 | Shadow_7 | grnmtn: dpkg -l | grep -i dhcp |
| 20:25.13 | _abc_ | Also is wheezy still called "testing"? Adding "testing" to a wheezy system will cause it to probably do something other than what I intend. |
| 20:25.20 | greycat | wheezy is oldstable |
| 20:25.31 | _abc_ | So what's next after it? |
| 20:25.34 | greycat | trying to jump from wheezy to testing is a BAD idea |
| 20:25.45 | greycat | wheezy = 7, jessie = 8, stretch = testing |
| 20:25.58 | _abc_ | I know, but the system where one tells debian in /etc/apt/apt.conf what "Default" is is really dangerous. |
| 20:25.59 | CQ | https://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 20:25.59 | Shadow_7 | wheezy had glibc 2.13... jessie has more current stuff |
| 20:26.13 | greycat | wtf is apt.conf |
| 20:26.19 | _abc_ | Yes so I need to update only dev-glibc |
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| 20:26.31 | greycat | The only thing I have in /etc/apt/apt.conf is my http proxy setting. |
| 20:26.49 | _abc_ | You can set the default "level" there |
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| 20:27.02 | greycat | _abc_: if you are contemplating pinning, STOP. STOP NOW. |
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| 20:27.16 | _abc_ | I don't wanna pin I want to update only glibc_2 |
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| 20:27.31 | greycat | Updating libc is basically updating *everything*. |
| 20:27.41 | greycat | You might as well do a full update to jessie. |
| 20:27.47 | _abc_ | I assumed as much. How does one downgrade Android Studio then? |
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| 20:28.18 | _abc_ | I will not do such a thing, I need wheezy for other things. |
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| 20:28.25 | _abc_ | I need to unbreak Android Studio... |
| 20:28.27 | Shadow_7 | time travel |
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| 20:29.24 | CQ | _abc_: put it into a VM (use virtualbox or something) ... |
| 20:29.54 | CQ | best way to have different system setups. Don't mess with pinning, partial upgrades, etc. |
| 20:30.06 | _abc_ | I need the vm to run the emu fast... that is sort of the point of this headless machine |
| 20:30.11 | baum | i was just going through some logfiles in #radeon and someone made me aware that i broke my userspace by uninstalling fglrx. is that possible? how could i revert/fix that? |
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| 20:31.49 | Shadow_7 | baum: the amd/ati driver replaces the libGL.so file |
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| 20:32.14 | Shadow_7 | baum: you'll need to restore that file to pre-ati/amd |
| 20:33.40 | Shadow_7 | baum: probably something like apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx |
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| 20:36.14 | baum | Shadow_7: that was it thanks :) |
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| 20:39.21 | mancomunado | So, now that a Debian developer is going to kill himself could you be sensible to create a distro installer with integrated luks encryption? I hate to create volumes, group volumes with written intructions. Just do it simple |
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| 20:40.33 | cra1g321 | mancomunado it already has a option to do full-disk encryption |
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| 20:41.40 | Magnifikus | stupid question, howto escape net.ipv6.conf."eth0.6".disable_ipv6 = 1 |
| 20:41.51 | Magnifikus | cause the tools translate dot to / |
| 20:41.54 | mancomunado | Since when, cra1g321? I burned an image this year without it |
| 20:42.01 | Magnifikus | but i need the directory eth0.6 |
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| 20:44.00 | Shadow_7 | Magnifikus: the common way is the escape it. \. but might need \\. depending on how many levels of interpretation it has |
| 20:44.13 | Shadow_7 | Magnifikus: other routes might be .. or '.' |
| 20:44.58 | Shadow_7 | or find a different naming convention that doesn't need the . |
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| 20:45.19 | nkuttler | mancomunado: during partition setup |
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| 20:46.42 | mancomunado | nkuttler, "guided use entired disk encrypted LVM" let me choose a partition? |
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| 20:47.20 | nkuttler | mancomunado: no idea, never use guided. doesn't sound like it |
| 20:47.52 | cra1g321 | mancomunado, oh so there is a option :P |
| 20:48.02 | cra1g321 | it will ask you to pick a disk |
| 20:48.09 | Magnifikus | Shadow_7, all tried |
| 20:48.18 | Magnifikus | but howto change the naming of vlan interfaces :D |
| 20:48.35 | Shadow_7 | isn't the :0 used on those? |
| 20:49.12 | Shadow_7 | that path seems like the ones in rc.conf type things that translate to /proc/sys/net/.... |
| 20:49.30 | Magnifikus | nah thats virtual |
| 20:49.33 | Magnifikus | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.37 | Magnifikus | works... |
| 20:49.40 | Magnifikus | fucking hackers |
| 20:49.59 | Magnifikus | sry and ty |
| 20:50.52 | Shadow_7 | most likely a regex issue |
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| 20:53.14 | greycat | Dpkg, live is also Currently you CANNOT install in UEFI from a Debian live image. |
| 20:53.14 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 20:53.53 | mancomunado | cra1g321, are you sure they'll ask a partition? |
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| 20:54.19 | cra1g321 | <mancomunado> it asks to choose a hard drive not a partition |
| 20:54.30 | cra1g321 | it will erase all data on the hard drive and setup the partitions |
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| 20:54.52 | mancomunado | I mean, I've created a parition from the windows hard disk |
| 20:55.27 | cra1g321 | if you are dual-booting on on drive, you will need to setup debian's partitions manually if you want encryption |
| 20:55.32 | mancomunado | If I select guided full disk, will it erase the windows partition as well or it'll give me the option |
| 20:55.33 | cra1g321 | on one* |
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| 20:55.50 | cra1g321 | it will erase ALL DATA on the drive you select |
| 20:56.17 | mancomunado | What you mean drive, could it be a external drive? |
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| 20:56.33 | cra1g321 | drive as in hard drive |
| 20:56.39 | mancomunado | When I type "df" on terminal it shows me several drives, windows and debian included |
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| 20:56.50 | mancomunado | external drivs, usb... |
| 20:56.58 | mancomunado | could I install in one of them? |
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| 20:57.51 | greycat | dpkg, uefi live is <reply> Currently, UEFI support exists only in Debian's installation images. The accompanying live images do not have support for UEFI boot. <https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI> |
| 20:57.51 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 21:00.12 | mancomunado | cra1g321, could I instead of ripping off the entire partitions just delete the "/"? I have swap and boot already installed and it's too complicated to mess with them all over again. |
| 21:00.21 | mancomunado | That's I've asked for a better installation. |
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| 21:06.18 | jhappa | thanks for officially stressing it greycat :-) |
| 21:06.41 | greycat | I knew there was an issue with USB and UEFI. I just had forgotten it was only on Live images. |
| 21:07.07 | greycat | 13:49 greycat> You're trying to boot UEFI from a USB device? |
| 21:07.08 | greycat | 13:50 greycat> Not from a CD? |
| 21:07.22 | jhappa | correct |
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| 21:25.37 | baum | shouldn't modules entered in /etc/modules get modprobed uppon boot? |
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| 21:29.30 | Shadow_7 | baum: there's /etc/modprobe.d/ conf stuff to autoload modules when the device is used |
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| 21:39.58 | baum | Shadow_7: thanks |
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| 21:48.27 | G33KY | Hi all, i'm trying to install debian to this 'cloudbook' laptop via USB and whenever I press any button in the GRUB menu which would launch the installer, i instead just get a blank screen. |
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| 21:56.05 | Shadow_7 | G33KY: try pressing "e" to edit and add singleuser to the kernel parms |
| 21:58.41 | G33KY | Still a blank screen it seems |
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| 22:00.14 | dvs | G33KY: tried "nomodeset" on kernel params? |
| 22:00.30 | darsie | wine says I should install a mono package for .NET applications. Which one should I install? |
| 22:00.51 | G33KY | tried that, still blank. |
| 22:01.43 | G33KY | the screen is still lit, just no text or anythung |
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| 22:02.38 | Scriptonaut | does anyone know how I can install rofi in debian? Everything I see shows it in the ubuntu universe repo. apt-cache search rofi doesn't return rofi (and I have contrib and non-free repos enabled). This is for jessie btw |
| 22:03.49 | awal1 | ,v rofi |
| 22:03.50 | judd | Package: rofi on amd64 -- sid: 0.15.11-1; stretch: 0.15.11-1 |
| 22:04.10 | awal1 | Scriptonaut: ^ |
| 22:04.11 | Scriptonaut | apt-get install rofi says it can't locate it |
| 22:04.16 | Scriptonaut | what's sid mean here? |
| 22:04.23 | Scriptonaut | (and yes I'm on amd64) |
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| 22:04.27 | G33KY | sid is the development version of debian |
| 22:04.32 | G33KY | jessie is the stable version |
| 22:04.41 | Scriptonaut | ah, so it's not in jessie, dang |
| 22:04.48 | awal1 | Scriptonaut: rofi isn't in stabel (jessie), only unstable (sid) and stretch (testing) |
| 22:05.21 | Scriptonaut | is there an easy way to add the sid repos to my install? |
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| 22:05.33 | nkuttler | !tell Scriptonaut about ssbp |
| 22:05.39 | awal1 | sid with stable? |
| 22:05.40 | nkuttler | Scriptonaut: don't do that, that will upgrade to unstable |
| 22:05.52 | Scriptonaut | ok. So I will have to build rofi myself |
| 22:05.54 | nkuttler | Scriptonaut: see the msg the bot sent you for build instructions |
| 22:06.08 | awal1 | !laugh at Scriptonaut |
| 22:06.08 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! Scriptonaut just cracks me up! |
| 22:06.15 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport rofi |
| 22:06.16 | judd | Backporting package rofi in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
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| 22:07.17 | awal1 | !tell Scriptonaut about frankendebian |
| 22:07.39 | nkuttler | awal1: you're not helping |
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| 22:12.18 | Scriptonaut | hrm, ok it's not in backports |
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| 22:14.57 | nkuttler | Scriptonaut: yeah, you'll have to build your own |
| 22:15.09 | dvs | ScRaMbLe: dpkg told you abou ssbp |
| 22:15.10 | Scriptonaut | Do any of you guys use apt-build? |
| 22:15.26 | Scriptonaut | or should I stick to aptitude build |
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| 22:15.46 | teraflops | rofi is that thing... like dmenu vitaminized? |
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| 22:15.52 | Scriptonaut | exactly |
| 22:15.55 | Scriptonaut | it's just a snazzier dmenu |
| 22:16.14 | Scriptonaut | I'm doing a minimal install of jesesie (dwm, rofi, etc), but I wanted to try out rofi |
| 22:16.16 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: nah bemenu is unbeatable |
| 22:16.24 | Scriptonaut | never heard of it |
| 22:16.26 | darsie | wine says I should install a mono package for .NET applications. Which one should I install? |
| 22:16.46 | G33KY | id just install mono-complete |
| 22:16.51 | darsie | thx |
| 22:16.54 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: bemenu is dmenu evolved and better with wayland support |
| 22:17.11 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: amon other improvements |
| 22:17.14 | teraflops | among* |
| 22:17.57 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: just backport it it's easy |
| 22:18.00 | Amun_Ra | mono-runtime will suffice, mono-complete contains devel stuff |
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| 22:18.17 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: I mean rofi |
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| 22:19.26 | Scriptonaut | teraflops: it's not in the backports |
| 22:19.36 | Scriptonaut | I added backports, apt-get update, but rofi isn't in there |
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| 22:20.12 | markybob | Scriptonaut, he's talking about following ssb to do it yourself |
| 22:20.13 | markybob | !ssb |
| 22:20.13 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 22:20.26 | Scriptonaut | yes, I'm in the process of doing that right now |
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| 22:21.22 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: the bot says you can backport it |
| 22:21.45 | Scriptonaut | I don't know what you mean |
| 22:21.47 | Scriptonaut | debian noob here |
| 22:21.57 | Scriptonaut | I got backports, and the package wasn't there |
| 22:22.19 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: ah, well consider it as a part of your debian training. backport a package |
| 22:22.27 | cra1g321 | what package ? |
| 22:22.30 | Scriptonaut | rofi |
| 22:22.31 | teraflops | rofi |
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| 22:22.42 | greycat | ,info rofi |
| 22:22.43 | judd | No package named 'rofi' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 22:22.50 | cra1g321 | stretch and sid only |
| 22:22.51 | greycat | ,info rofi sid |
| 22:22.52 | judd | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 22:22.58 | teraflops | heh |
| 22:23.09 | greycat | Well. Um. I give up trying to figure out what the hell you guys are even talking about. |
| 22:23.19 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:23.41 | teraflops | greycat: rofi is a fancy dmenu thingy |
| 22:23.59 | greycat | OK, now I just have to figure out what a dmenu is. |
| 22:24.03 | teraflops | heh |
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| 22:24.06 | markybob | heh |
| 22:24.12 | Scriptonaut | what am I doing wrong? I added backports, it updated just fine, then I did: apt-get -t jessie-backports install "rofi" |
| 22:24.17 | Shadow_7 | greycat: suckless-tools |
| 22:24.28 | greycat | Scriptonaut: if it hasn't been backported yet, you may have to do it yourself. |
| 22:24.34 | G33KY | rofi isnt in backports |
| 22:24.35 | Scriptonaut | ah |
| 22:24.39 | markybob | Scriptonaut, nothing. it's just not there. you have to use apt-get -b source like the bot told you to |
| 22:24.39 | greycat | ,info suckless-tools |
| 22:24.40 | judd | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 22:25.13 | Shadow_7 | it's part of dwm iirc |
| 22:25.13 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: rofi is from suckless? as st dwm etc? |
| 22:25.15 | greycat | tries packages.d.o instead |
| 22:25.36 | teraflops | mmm i meant Shadow_7 |
| 22:25.38 | Scriptonaut | ok. I tried adding sid sources, by adding testing to the end of the main deb-src line. I can't update now though, it tells me "Unable to find expected entry 'testing/source/Sources' in Release file |
| 22:25.39 | Shadow_7 | suckless.org or something |
| 22:25.42 | teraflops | srry |
| 22:25.58 | greycat | !tell Scriptonaut about ssb |
| 22:26.13 | markybob | greycat, he's been told three times |
| 22:26.24 | Scriptonaut | yes graycat, I'm following that guide |
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| 22:26.34 | Scriptonaut | markybob: I'm following that, I can't add the sid sources |
| 22:26.48 | G33KY | for deb-src you do "deb-src http://ftp.xx.debian.org/ testing main non-free contrib" |
| 22:27.01 | dvs | sid is testing? |
| 22:27.01 | greycat | well, either testing or sid, not both |
| 22:27.03 | G33KY | its the same as the deb line just with deb-src instead |
| 22:27.18 | G33KY | yeah btw Scriptonaut sid isnt testing |
| 22:27.23 | G33KY | however the pack you want is in testing |
| 22:27.28 | G33KY | so add testing |
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| 22:27.39 | teraflops | Scriptonaut: doubled checked the entry it looks like typo in the sources.list |
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| 22:27.58 | Scriptonaut | I used that same line teraflops, the one G33KY posted |
| 22:28.01 | Scriptonaut | still giving me that error |
| 22:28.20 | markybob | Scriptonaut, pastebin your sources.list |
| 22:28.25 | G33KY | good idea |
| 22:28.26 | Scriptonaut | ok |
| 22:28.34 | dvs | deb-src http://ftp.xx.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib |
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| 22:29.03 | dvs | bets he put the "xx" in the line |
| 22:29.12 | Scriptonaut | lol no |
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| 22:30.57 | Scriptonaut | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d4338287bc24b50a1ebd |
| 22:31.06 | Scriptonaut | line 6 |
| 22:31.28 | dvs | ScRaMbLe: you have both "jessie" and "testing" there. |
| 22:31.31 | dvs | grr |
| 22:31.39 | dvs | Scriptonaut: you have both "jessie" and "testing" there. |
| 22:31.45 | markybob | Scriptonaut, one per line |
| 22:31.45 | Scriptonaut | Oh, my bad |
| 22:31.50 | G33KY | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 22:31.57 | Scriptonaut | got it |
| 22:32.15 | G33KY | i also recommend putting deb-src "http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free" there too |
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| 22:32.20 | G33KY | separate line ofc |
| 22:33.04 | dvs | G33KY: ? That's different from line 6 how? |
| 22:33.16 | G33KY | jessie and testing |
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| 22:33.26 | markybob | dvs, line 6 says "jessie testing" |
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| 22:34.22 | Scriptonaut | that worked, thanks for the help guys |
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| 22:35.35 | G33KY | update on my problem (blank screen after install button pressed): tried an ubuntu disc and same thing. |
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| 22:36.15 | Scriptonaut | wow, so that's how you build in debian, cool |
| 22:36.55 | Scriptonaut | On netbsd, I would often build packages to get better performance on crappy computers, is it similar in debian? My computer is 10 years old, could I increase usability by building my packages? |
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| 22:37.42 | markybob | Scriptonaut, no. if we thought so we'd all be using gentoo |
| 22:37.51 | Scriptonaut | hehe |
| 22:38.30 | markybob | Scriptonaut, btw, install ccache and add it to your path if you're going to be building stuff |
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| 22:39.30 | Scriptonaut | ok, thanks |
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| 22:48.05 | skinnay | so uh, anyone know what happened with ian? |
| 22:48.47 | markybob | skinnay, take it to #debian-offtopic on oftc if you must talk about it |
| 22:50.47 | darsie | ssb of wine failed |
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| 22:57.14 | darsie | 'aptitude build-dep wine' Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: unicode-data ( 8.0-1~). and others. |
| 22:57.55 | darsie | https://paste.debian.net/356967/ |
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| 22:58.25 | darsie | 'apt-get -b source wine' fails, too. |
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| 22:59.58 | darsie | https://paste.debian.net/356968/ |
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| 23:00.23 | darsie | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: unicode-data (>= 8.0-1~) libtiff-dev |
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| 23:01.15 | markybob | darsie, so i'm guessing you're using jessie? |
| 23:01.19 | darsie | yes |
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| 23:01.44 | markybob | darsie, right. that has unicode 7.0-2. won't work. you'll need to backport that first |
| 23:01.53 | darsie | hmm |
| 23:01.55 | darsie | ok |
| 23:02.06 | markybob | darsie, same with libtiff-dev |
| 23:02.08 | darsie | I'll try to install from winehq now. |
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| 23:06.21 | Scriptonaut | Can I just add an ~/.Xresources file, and will it be picked up when I launch xorg? Or do I need to link it somewhere? I don't have one at the moment |
| 23:07.03 | G33KY | Ok, i've made some progress on my problem. I added some commands to the GRUB boot manu which just echo the current task being done. They echo fine, but the tasks they are describing dont seem to be getting done |
| 23:07.20 | G33KY | Like I dont think GRUB is loading the initrd or vmlinuz |
| 23:07.52 | markybob | Scriptonaut, yes, it'll work |
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| 23:08.15 | Scriptonaut | cool, thanks markybob |
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| 23:13.43 | baum | is glamor already a part of the xorg packets? |
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| 23:15.18 | bazhang | ,v glamor |
| 23:15.19 | judd | No package named 'glamor' was found in amd64. |
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| 23:27.35 | darsie | G33KY: libtiff-dev backport failed. |
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| 23:28.17 | darsie | sorry G33KY, I meant markybob |
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| 23:29.01 | markybob | darsie, probably because it has another build-dep that you didn't satisfy. backporting is annoying sometimes |
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| 23:29.23 | darsie | Ohh, should I install unicode-data, before backporting libtiff-dev? |
| 23:29.39 | markybob | darsie, yes |
| 23:29.47 | darsie | Also, root@b:/etc/apt# aptitude build-dep libtiff-dev Note: selecting "libtiff5-dev" instead of the virtual package "libtiff-dev" |
| 23:29.54 | darsie | ok ... |
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| 23:30.55 | fudluddIT | deb 7.9 wish to modify sudo so that it CAN be used as an input, put with priviledges differing from SU or root access (to gain access to isolated app suite). Is this possible. I know this might sound like Why the F would you want to.... but there are reasons |
| 23:30.58 | Scriptonaut | Hey guys, I am trying to use rofi with dwm. I built rofi, and it works fine when I launch the daemon from within openbox. However, I added the exec rofi line to my dwmstart file (the file that launches dwm), and when I'm in dwm rofi isn't running. This is my dwmstart file: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/21dcffc84b396048bf88 |
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| 23:33.47 | careta | hi all |
| 23:34.13 | careta | does anyone know how I can read a remote syslog without receiving it in my syslog server? can I just netcat listen on a port or something similar to collect the logs? |
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| 23:36.14 | dimitry7 | Hi guys, I am compressing a directory on jessie but keep getting this error: http://paste.incorrigible.me/cuciqupese.sm |
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| 23:45.45 | baum | 8 hours.....and i still didn't manage to start an xserver....=/ |
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| 23:47.19 | tomreyn | dmilith: what'S your question? |
| 23:47.22 | darsie | hmm, paste.debian.net is down ... |
| 23:47.52 | dimitry7 | pastebin debian is down, right |
| 23:48.04 | dimitry7 | now, u used paste.incorrigible |
| 23:48.09 | Shadow_7 | baum: apt-get install xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all |
| 23:48.13 | dimitry7 | what can I do to compress the directory? |
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| 23:48.29 | tomreyn | sorry i mean s/dmilith/dimitry7/ |
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| 23:49.18 | baum | Shadow_7: thanks, but i already got them all installed |
| 23:49.28 | tomreyn | dimitry7: do it as a user which has permission to do so |
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| 23:49.52 | Shadow_7 | baum: apt-get install jwm xinit && echo "exec jwm" > .xinitrc && startx |
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| 23:50.39 | tomreyn | dimitry7: so run it with sudo, as the user owning these directories and files, or as the user "root" |
| 23:52.56 | baum | Shadow_7: Require OpenGL version 2.1 or later ./urs/lib/xorg/Xorg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so: undefined symbol: exaGetPixmapDriverPrivatexinit: giving up |
| 23:53.11 | baum | Shadow_7: xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused |
| 23:53.18 | baum | xinit: server error |
| 23:53.30 | Shadow_7 | baum: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-utils |
| 23:53.53 | *** part/#debian ewew (~none@unaffiliated/ewew) |
| 23:54.48 | baum | Shadow_7: same error |
| 23:54.50 | darsie | markybob: I can't backport libtiff-dev ... http://pastie.org/pastes/10659644/text |
| 23:56.01 | Shadow_7 | baum: modprobe radeon && startx |
| 23:56.38 | markybob | darsie, you need libpng12-dev |
| 23:56.49 | markybob | darsie, not libpng-dev |
| 23:57.06 | baum | Shadow_7: same error |
| 23:57.30 | tomreyn | baum: the symbol lookup error is weird, though, as if you're using an incompatible module. you're not trying to mix incompatible X and X module versions, or are you? Did everything you are using come packaged from official Debian repositories? |
| 23:57.45 | darsie | markelite: Ok. thx. How was I supposed to know? |
| 23:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1590] by debhelper |
| 23:58.09 | markybob | darsie, apt-cache search is a good tool. other than that just experience |
| 23:58.13 | tomreyn | ...and those matching your release |
| 23:58.26 | darsie | damn wrong nick again ... |
| 23:59.22 | baum | tomreyn: no, atleast i wouldn't be aware of doing so. yes, everything i'm using is from the debian-testing repos |
| 23:59.30 | Shadow_7 | baum: what kernel version? |
| 23:59.35 | dimitry7 | tomreyn, all right, let me try sudo |
| 23:59.59 | darsie | markybob: So, apt-cache show libtiff5-dev and look for it's dependencies? |
