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| 00:03.40 | awal1 | svetlana: probably not. an easy way is checking via terminal /var/log/apt/history.log using for example cat |
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| 00:04.39 | teraflops | brandnewbian: are you aware about what -c does? just grep /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf for VirtualDisplay |
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| 00:04.49 | Shadow_7 | Somelauw: bear in mind that one could apt-get -d and ONLY download the packages, not install them. So not completely reliable in representation |
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| 00:08.06 | awal1 | svetlana: for old logs also check the suffixed and compressed ones (/var/log/apt/) |
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| 00:08.09 | stew | Shadow_7: does apt-get -d affect the history.log? |
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| 00:09.41 | Shadow_7 | stew: idk... never checked the history... Just know that I often apt-get -d dist-upgrade, because slow interwebs. And often new updates to apt-get -d dist-upgrade before I actually apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:09.57 | themill | no, it doesn't |
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| 00:20.34 | teraflops | brandnewbian: why sudo? |
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| 00:21.06 | teraflops | brandnewbian: why sudo? |
| 00:21.09 | teraflops | ups |
| 00:21.11 | teraflops | srry |
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| 00:24.35 | brandnewbian | teraflops: did some tinkering and its not a root issue. I did not make an xorg conf file before installing bumblebee. Im trying to run the nvidia-settings gui, but it is telling me I'm not running the nvidia driver... |
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| 00:24.55 | brandnewbian | teraflops: so I was trying to optirun the gui |
| 00:25.04 | brandnewbian | and that does not work :( |
| 00:25.24 | Brigo | brandnewbian, and are you running the nvidia driver? |
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| 00:26.50 | brandnewbian | Brigo: it works when I run glxgears with optirun or primusrun ... but the window manager isnt using it |
| 00:27.13 | teraflops | brandnewbian: you dont do a xorg file when using bumblebee |
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| 00:27.30 | brandnewbian | i need to confgirue an xorg file maybe? but the directions on the bumblebee page say not to do that for an optimus machine, which this very much is |
| 00:27.42 | teraflops | brandnewbian: feel free to read (again?) https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 00:27.52 | teraflops | nope |
| 00:28.17 | brandnewbian | ok so like... I cant get nvidia-settings to run under the window manager cuz its using the intel card? |
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| 00:29.15 | teraflops | brandnewbian: hey read the wiki, pay atention to the big "warning" |
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| 00:31.58 | brandnewbian | teraflops: ok so in the docs the say nvidia-xconfig cant be run, and this also appriles to nvidia-settings as well? |
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| 00:33.16 | teraflops | brandnewbian: you cannot use the nvidia display as primary display if that's what you mean, well at least not via bumblebee |
| 00:34.20 | brandnewbian | teraflops: ok so I just launch apps with optimus or primusrun and it will run off the nvidia at max power and alladat? |
| 00:34.39 | teraflops | brandnewbian: right |
| 00:34.42 | brandnewbian | teraflops: and I dont get to use the settings gui |
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| 00:35.37 | teraflops | brandnewbian: hmm i never used it, you mean for tweaking graphics for gaming? |
| 00:35.39 | brandnewbian | now people keep saying not to use the nvidia card as a primary... why not? I have electricity here |
| 00:35.59 | brandnewbian | teraflops: ya exactly. im giving debian a go for a steam ish gaming box |
| 00:36.01 | Shadow_7 | brandnewbian: but it's 130F in the shade |
| 00:36.09 | teraflops | heh blame optimus techmology |
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| 00:36.49 | brandnewbian | please dont condemn me to a lifetime of unpatched windows 7 |
| 00:36.55 | teraflops | xD |
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| 00:37.23 | teraflops | brandnewbian: hey i play gaes pretty well via primus in linux, also intel gpu is better imo for a desktop/wm |
| 00:37.28 | teraflops | games* |
| 00:37.36 | steven_is_false | Hello. If I am setting up my own forwarding nameserver it is possible to forward to the root name servers (for possibly more privacy) but this is generally not done because this is slow? |
| 00:37.41 | brandnewbian | Shadow_7: u think it will overheat? cuz im planning on running 2 or 3 screens off it...? |
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| 00:38.13 | Shadow_7 | We keep adding car parts to these modern things |
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| 00:39.07 | teraflops | brandnewbian: it gets hot doing hard gaming cl etc. |
| 00:39.28 | brandnewbian | teraflops: can the intel handle multiple screens out? I fell like the nvidia is gonna kill at this...? |
| 00:39.35 | nevyn | steven_is_false: no. the root nameservers don't do recursion |
| 00:39.48 | nevyn | steven_is_false: however forwarding at all is optional |
| 00:40.58 | steven_is_false | nevyn: Don't my ISP's name servers forward to the root server? Or are caching and not forwarding nameservers? |
| 00:41.01 | nevyn | steven_is_false: you can have a local nameserver with the standard root.hints that works completely independantly from your isp's nameservers |
| 00:41.12 | nevyn | steven_is_false: no |
| 00:41.18 | teraflops | brandnewbian: just try it and see since there are setups with the hdmi etc wired to the intel and other setups wired to the nvidia |
| 00:41.20 | nevyn | forward means something quite specific |
| 00:41.28 | themill | steven_is_false: installing the unbound package is generally enough to solve this for you; if you've got a laptop, then installing dnssec-trigger is handy too |
| 00:41.32 | nevyn | which is if I don't know ask this other nameserver |
| 00:41.57 | nevyn | and don't do local recursion |
| 00:42.10 | steven_is_false | nevyn: Local recursion is slow? |
| 00:42.16 | nevyn | slower... |
| 00:42.29 | nevyn | than a hit in the cache of your isp |
| 00:42.42 | steven_is_false | themill: I'd prefer to use bind9 because I'm already running a bind9 instance on my laptop. |
| 00:43.07 | brandnewbian | teraflops: do you have any good links on this topic? |
| 00:43.12 | steven_is_false | I want to run a DNS nameserver on my my own virtual private server and then refer to that server from my home laptop. |
| 00:43.26 | teraflops | brandnewbian: hmm gimme a sec |
| 00:43.28 | nevyn | steven_is_false: also increasing the load on the root nameservers is generally to be avoided |
| 00:43.50 | brandnewbian | steven_is_false: why? you can leave public dns to your own upstream or vpn provider no? |
| 00:44.03 | steven_is_false | And my own laptop has its own server so that it can serve out localhost IPs for domains under .localhost |
| 00:44.08 | teraflops | brandnewbian: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Multi-monitor-setup |
| 00:44.29 | themill | steven_is_false: there's no advantage in running bind9 rather than unbound for local dns on your laptop |
| 00:44.36 | steven_is_false | brandnewbian: My workplace's DNS stuff is fucky and doesn't work with DNSSEC. |
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| 00:44.51 | teraflops | heh |
| 00:45.11 | brandnewbian | steven_is_false: if i understand, u wanna vpn back to your home network from work ya? |
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| 00:45.55 | steven_is_false | brandnewbian: No. I want to use my own VPS as my DNS nameserver. |
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| 00:46.22 | teraflops | you can use unbound for dns sec validation and dns cache not only for localhost |
| 00:46.22 | brandnewbian | steven_is_false: i misread that my bad |
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| 00:48.37 | steven_is_false | Sorry, I don't get this. Do I want to run my DNS server as a Master, Slave, Forwarding or Caching nameserver? |
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| 00:49.34 | steven_is_false | Isn't allowing recursive queries to my DNS server bad because people could do cache poisoning and stuff? |
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| 00:51.58 | nevyn | steven_is_false: so best practice [TM] is to not authorative and resolution services from the same instance. |
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| 00:52.41 | steven_is_false | nevyn: I'm not being authorative for anything at all. |
| 00:52.44 | nevyn | steven_is_false: recursive queries are what clients make. (like your web browser) |
| 00:53.15 | nevyn | steven_is_false: 11:44 < steven_is_false> And my own laptop has its own server so that it can serve out localhost IPs for domains under .localhost |
| 00:53.25 | nevyn | Authoritative zone ^^ |
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| 00:54.23 | nevyn | steven_is_false: so on your vps you have no slave or master zone's in the configuration? |
| 00:54.25 | JohnnyL | is /usr/src/linux/include/uapi/asm-generic/unistd.h the current list for asm calls in linux/64 bit? |
| 00:54.41 | steven_is_false | nevyn: Sorry you're confusing me. |
| 00:55.14 | steven_is_false | I have a localhost nameserver that's authorative for .localhost domains. |
| 00:55.20 | nevyn | ok |
| 00:55.30 | steven_is_false | (on my laptop) |
| 00:55.57 | steven_is_false | I have a VPS that I want to use as a nameserver instead of my ISP's namservers. |
| 00:56.06 | JohnnyL | all references i have contain different eaxs. |
| 00:56.21 | nevyn | ok. |
| 00:56.44 | nevyn | so that'd be a caching recursive nameserver |
| 00:56.50 | nevyn | don't configure forwarders |
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| 00:57.05 | nevyn | only listen on the vpn addresses |
| 00:57.10 | nevyn | all good |
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| 00:58.07 | steven_is_false | nevyn: Isn't having a caching recursive DNS that is exposed on the internet publically dangerous though? |
| 00:58.28 | steven_is_false | nevyn: I don't have a VPN anywhere. |
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| 00:59.34 | SM0TVI | So I know I have been asking this a bit over the past day or so, but I keep having the issue of the kernel intermittenlty hanging on the SATA AHCI interface when booting. Anyone have a clue on what is causing it? My hunch is that the disk hasn't spun up or smth. |
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| 01:01.25 | SM0TVI | When it hangs, it always hangs at this point or on the scsi detection of the HD a couple of lines up: http://i.imgur.com/Y90hZXM.jpg |
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| 01:05.04 | lotsoftuna | hi, what's a good GUI editor for grub2 |
| 01:05.13 | lotsoftuna | I'd rather not compile grub-customizer from source |
| 01:05.20 | lotsoftuna | I'm using xfce if it matters |
| 01:05.53 | Shadow_7 | heh... emacs |
| 01:06.35 | Shadow_7 | although probably shouldn't gui as root |
| 01:07.47 | nevyn | steven_is_false: yes. hence vpn to your vps |
| 01:08.12 | nevyn | don't expose it to the internet. |
| 01:08.31 | lotsoftuna | I don't wanna use command line... too risky for me |
| 01:08.43 | lotsoftuna | At this point I might as well just compile the customizer |
| 01:10.08 | steven_is_false | nevyn: My ISP doesn't have me VPN into their nameservers so why do I need to VP into my nameserver? |
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| 01:10.36 | nevyn | steven_is_false: because you want to access a service that isn't publicly availilbe? |
| 01:10.59 | nevyn | steven_is_false: you could just do client acl restrictions in bind if that's acceptable from a risk pov to you |
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| 01:11.20 | nevyn | but then you are providing it on the internet facing ip of your vps |
| 01:11.36 | nevyn | and just service restricting it to client ip's that are known |
| 01:12.19 | nevyn | steven_is_false: a vpn is a reliable way to restrict the service to known clients. (dnssec with keys would also work and be an interesting method of restriction) |
| 01:13.14 | uxfi | shoot |
| 01:13.20 | steven_is_false | nevyn: Why is exposing a nameserver publically so much riskier than exposing a website or other services? |
| 01:13.29 | JohnnyL | what's the story, who is taking over Ian's (RIP) job? |
| 01:13.34 | nevyn | dos mostly |
| 01:13.45 | steven_is_false | Okay. |
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| 01:14.17 | lotsoftuna | okay |
| 01:14.41 | steven_is_false | nevyn: How could dnssec be used to restrict people from accessing a DNS service? |
| 01:14.54 | karlpinc | JohnnyL: Ian turned over his job about 1994ish. |
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| 01:16.45 | JohnnyL | karlpinc: huh |
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| 01:24.33 | steven_is_false | nevyn: I know nsupdate uses keys for authentication. Is there a way to use those same keys for allowing or disallowing data querying? |
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| 01:32.13 | nevyn | yes but I don't know about client support |
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| 01:32.40 | steven_is_false | Cool so, dig -k/etc/bind/Kmykey.+157+59440.private @mysite.com example.org works. Is it possible to setup my local system to do that? |
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| 01:35.25 | nevyn | man resolv.conf ? |
| 01:35.45 | steven_is_false | Fair enough. |
| 01:37.14 | nevyn | steven_is_false: looks like no. you need to use unbound |
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| 01:45.00 | steven_is_false | Okay I got it working. |
| 01:46.27 | jeezy | nice! |
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| 02:03.10 | Scott0_ | is there any way to reset the root password on a install? |
| 02:03.16 | Scott0_ | without knowiung the password? |
| 02:03.24 | nevyn | Scott0_: yes |
| 02:03.32 | Scott0_ | how? |
| 02:03.38 | Shadow_7 | Scott0_: if you boot another distro, chroot, and use passwd |
| 02:04.02 | nevyn | or pass parameters to grub (assuming it's unlocked) |
| 02:04.07 | nevyn | or... lots of options |
| 02:04.22 | Shadow_7 | or single user mode from grubs boot menu |
| 02:04.23 | nevyn | nearly all of which require console/physical access |
| 02:04.26 | Scott0_ | I have a debian vm in hyperv and I can't paste the password I normally use :/ |
| 02:04.32 | Scott0_ | so much for long random passwords |
| 02:04.49 | Shadow_7 | or push backspace 28 times... lol |
| 02:04.50 | Scott0_ | I converted it from virtualbox to vhd |
| 02:04.53 | Scott0_ | lool |
| 02:04.56 | Scott0_ | that might work |
| 02:05.01 | Scott0_ | which versions? |
| 02:05.04 | Scott0_ | its debian 6 |
| 02:05.28 | Yukiteru | Scott0_, use a chroot |
| 02:05.30 | Shadow_7 | backspace from grub |
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| 02:13.33 | Scott0_ | I did it via grub |
| 02:13.37 | Scott0_ | and passwd |
| 02:14.50 | Scott0_ | :D |
| 02:14.53 | Scott0_ | that was easy |
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| 02:16.41 | Scott0_ | weird eth0 does not exist |
| 02:16.52 | Scott0_ | how do I clear the previous nic from history? |
| 02:17.42 | Scott0_ | ahh I remember now, udev |
| 02:17.46 | Shadow_7 | Scott0_: remove the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-...net... rule and reboot |
| 02:17.57 | Scott0_ | its been awhile |
| 02:18.02 | Scott0_ | :) |
| 02:19.00 | Shadow_7 | although some names are tied to the driver |
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| 02:24.48 | bottomNotch | the latest xfce version the jessie repos have is 4.10. I want the xhdpi window manager theme. The xhdpi theme was added in 4.12. I tried adding the ubuntu PPA with android@localhost:~$ sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12/ubuntu' |
| 02:24.48 | bottomNotch | Error: 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12/ubuntu' invalid |
| 02:25.38 | abrotman | well, a) PPAs aren't made for Debian b) did you check backports? |
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| 02:26.21 | abrotman | judd: versions xfce |
| 02:26.22 | judd | No package named 'xfce' was found in amd64. |
| 02:26.31 | dvs | ,v xfce4 |
| 02:26.33 | judd | Package: xfce4 on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.12.2; stretch: 4.12.2 |
| 02:26.50 | abrotman | I was getting there! |
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| 02:26.59 | dvs | sure sure ;-) |
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| 02:27.27 | cra1g321 | xfce5 wont happen for another 20 years anyway, might as well name it xfce ;) |
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| 02:27.58 | bottomNotch | Oops, wasn't done typing, anyways all I want is to get the xhdpi theme, how I get it I do not care. |
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| 02:51.13 | anabain | when sharing files via nfsv3, what has to be done in order to avoid the client hanging (which is using automounter) when the server is shutdown? Is there any approach that involves anything like the server sending a message/command to the client in order to get the shares unmounted before shutting down? |
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| 02:57.28 | Scott0_ | how would I install the linux integration services for running debian on hyperv? |
| 02:57.41 | Scott0_ | is there a package in the repo or something? |
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| 02:58.54 | themill | is hyperv-daemons what you're looking for? |
| 02:59.19 | Scott0_ | maybe |
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| 02:59.27 | OdicforceSounds | hi |
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| 02:59.39 | Scott0_ | it isn't in the repos for squeeze |
| 02:59.41 | Scott0_ | :( |
| 02:59.51 | themill | that's not surprising |
| 02:59.59 | Scott0_ | :( |
| 03:00.04 | OdicforceSounds | I did change /etc/nanorc tab value to 4 and it continue to make 8 spaces. how to change it !? |
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| 03:01.48 | Scott0_ | ah it seems that was only in 7 and 8 |
| 03:01.51 | Scott0_ | time to upgrade |
| 03:01.55 | Scott0_ | fun |
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| 03:50.19 | Guest80186 | hi, where is ar on debian |
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| 03:52.18 | Guest80186 | is it possible to manually extract a deb archive with ar |
| 03:52.51 | markybob | Guest80186, binutils |
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| 03:53.44 | markybob | Guest80186, dpkg -x foo.deb to extract it |
| 03:53.53 | Guest80186 | markybob, thanks |
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| 03:55.32 | k_sze | I just upgraded a wheezy machine to jessie, but now it won't resolve any hostname. |
| 03:56.50 | markybob | k_sze, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:58.15 | k_sze | https://bpaste.net/show/6eead5632aa8 |
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| 03:59.19 | markybob | k_sze, yeah, that says nothing. says you haven't configured your network. thus it doesn't work. |
| 03:59.40 | k_sze | huh??? |
| 03:59.43 | k_sze | but I can ssh into it. |
| 04:00.06 | markybob | k_sze, pastebin /sbin/ifconfig -a |
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| 04:02.08 | markybob | k_sze, pastebin /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:03.10 | k_sze | ifconfig: https://bpaste.net/show/a5a5072241d3 |
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| 04:03.59 | k_sze | Hmm |
| 04:04.18 | k_sze | I can ping machines in my local network, but I can't ping Google's DNS (8.8.8.8) |
| 04:04.30 | k_sze | "connect: Network is unreachable" |
| 04:05.26 | markybob | k_sze, i was about to tell you your ip isn't public/valid |
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| 04:06.49 | k_sze | Which means...? |
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| 04:08.22 | markybob | k_sze, means you won't get anywhere. you need to set your ip information. "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 up" for example |
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| 04:09.13 | k_sze | But I'm using DHCP already, no? |
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| 04:10.38 | themill | there's nothing wrong with that address for a home NAT |
| 04:10.52 | k_sze | I have a DHCP server serving IP addresses in the 172.26.2.0 subnet in my local network, which is why my eth0 got the 172.26.2.139 IP. |
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| 04:11.34 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 04:12.05 | johnfg | I can login as a user, but no direct login for root. I can sudo to root though. |
| 04:12.39 | llldino | johnfg, Logging into the root account is disabled by default in Ubuntu |
| 04:12.42 | dvs | johnfg: X was designed that way |
| 04:12.52 | johnfg | Also, I can only login at the console. lightdm presents it's screen, but i think X fails to start the mate desktop. |
| 04:13.17 | johnfg | No console login for root. |
| 04:13.42 | llldino | johnfg, You can use "sudo -i" to start an interactive shell as the root user |
| 04:13.49 | johnfg | If you've been following this ordeal, here's the latest mess from `dpkg --configure -a` http://paste.debian.net/360843/ |
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| 04:14.14 | johnfg | Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also, can you verify that that's a good paste? |
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| 04:14.25 | markybob | llldino, sudo passwd root && sudo passwd -u root |
| 04:14.34 | johnfg | llldino: Yup, i was able to sudo also. |
| 04:14.58 | markybob | meant johnfg :P |
| 04:15.14 | johnfg | This isn't a lost password problem, but the system got messed up by me in the process of upgrading to jessie. |
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| 04:16.00 | llldino | Oh, i'm in the wrong channel >< |
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| 04:23.17 | stew | so sysctl : /proc/sys :: ??? : /sys ? |
| 04:23.20 | stew | what is ??? |
| 04:23.48 | stew | I hate that the answer I'm looking for is probably in udev |
| 04:24.37 | k_sze | markybob: looks like something is wrong with our VLAN stuff. |
| 04:24.39 | themill | stew: context? |
| 04:24.42 | johnfg | abrotman: Are you here this evening? |
| 04:24.48 | jordanm | stew: most likely, what value do you want to change? |
| 04:25.03 | johnfg | themill: Have you followed at all from the last few days? |
| 04:25.08 | jordanm | io scheduler? |
| 04:25.26 | stew | i want to change all the stuff that powertop tells me to change every time I reboot |
| 04:25.29 | themill | johnfg: nope, I've been afk for the last two weeks |
| 04:25.32 | stew | because it triples my battery life |
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| 04:25.55 | stew | themill: jordanm: ohai |
| 04:25.58 | nevyn | stew: disk spindown's and stuff? |
| 04:26.00 | themill | stew: ahh... I just «powertop --auto» ;) |
| 04:26.05 | stew | ooh |
| 04:26.29 | stew | dpkg: cookie themill |
| 04:26.31 | dpkg | spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... #debian-devel cmd: ops (.*?)... ($problem): dondelelcaro, Ganneff, Myon, aba, abrotman, azeem, babilen, lucas, Maulkin, maxx, Rhonda, RichiH, themill, vorlon, weasel, willy, Joy, Kamion, waldi, wiggy: $nick complains about: $problem |
| 04:26.42 | stew | uhhh |
| 04:26.55 | themill | fail! |
| 04:26.59 | jordanm | stew: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management#Using_a_script_and_an_udev_rule |
| 04:27.04 | johnfg | themill: I'm trying to accomplish a reinstall of jessie, but have a number of pkgs that won't install, because of this: |
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| 04:27.23 | jordanm | yeah, auto would make sense... |
| 04:27.39 | johnfg | E: Couldn't configure <pkg name>, probably a dependency cycle. |
| 04:27.51 | jordanm | !tell johnfg about bat |
| 04:29.08 | johnfg | jordanm: I tried to get the much output of `dpkg --configure -a | pastebinit`, but it must have been too much for the paste. At least i see only a few lines from links. |
| 04:29.54 | johnfg | If I redirect that to a file, is there a way to upload it? |
| 04:31.40 | jordanm | you can try nopaste |
| 04:31.47 | johnfg | what do you see in this paste: |
| 04:32.00 | johnfg | If you've been following this ordeal, here's the latest mess from `dpkg --configure -a` http://paste.debian.net/360843/ |
| 04:32.16 | stew | jordanm: thank you, that is going to hopefully help me not have to run xmodmap everytime I plugin in my keyboard at work |
| 04:32.29 | johnfg | jordanm:ok,i'm assuming that maybe i can upload a file there? |
| 04:32.54 | jordanm | nopaste is an alternative to pastebinit (cli utility) |
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| 04:36.39 | x032cx | am having an issue with libavcodec54 mark unvailable on debian packages list, is only in jessie for now or else where |
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| 04:37.16 | themill | x032cx: it's nowhere in debian. What are you really trying to do? |
| 04:38.00 | x032cx | it is required for gstreamer1.0-libav installation |
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| 04:38.46 | themill | x032cx: not in debian, it isn't |
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| 04:40.03 | x032cx | well it is part of the install for iceweasel recommends it for html5 |
| 04:40.34 | themill | gstreamer1.0-libav exists but it doesn't need libavcodec54 |
| 04:40.38 | themill | dpkg: tell x032cx about bat |
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| 04:42.47 | x032cx | themill:that is correct but on the wiki it is recommended and while intsalling gstreamer1.0-libav apt has depends issue about libavcodec54 |
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| 04:43.46 | themill | gstreamer1.0-libav has no dependencies on libavcodec54. Please provide the info dpkg asked for |
| 04:45.20 | x032cx | themill: here it is http://paste.debian.net/360864 |
| 04:45.35 | themill | and the rest of the info? |
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| 04:46.25 | x032cx | that is all the info as the whole output from apt |
| 04:46.36 | themill | except dpkg asked for more |
| 04:47.01 | themill | My mind-reading skills are rusty, you'll have to help. |
| 04:47.17 | x032cx | well I guess Ill have to try with the deb file then |
| 04:47.41 | themill | Or you could just provide the information that I've asked for ... |
| 04:48.22 | themill | !bat |
| 04:48.22 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 04:48.31 | themill | x032cx: ^^ you have only done 1 our of the 3. |
| 04:48.32 | x032cx | i used apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav not dpkg, that is all its spits out |
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| 04:51.26 | x032cx | themill: that was from apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav |pastebinit |
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| 04:57.03 | Megamos | Just installed Debian 8, ran apt-get install gnome and logged in to Gnome. Tips for commands to run now? Like apt-get update I guess. |
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| 05:05.14 | x032cx | Megamos:do you have a sources list yet created, then of course apt-get update will be good |
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| 05:10.15 | NahUndFern | Hello. Currently i am trying to follow this https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en . I am trying to make partition on my usb stick on sdb, which already contains the install media on sdb 1+2 (boot and efi?). I am trying to make an extra partition (sdb3) so as to add a firmware package to put on it during install. However, every time i have tried to make a partition, ii have been given errors, already for 4 different |
| 05:10.15 | NahUndFern | partition programs. I must be doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what |
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| 05:10.58 | beepie | NahUndFern, hi! |
| 05:11.11 | NahUndFern | beepie, Hello again! |
| 05:11.20 | beepie | NahUndFern, i wouldn't bother to fiddle around with install media, it's not worth it |
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| 05:12.35 | beepie | NahUndFern, there's an 'expert' option to scan ext2/3/4 filesystems on mobile storage -- though i don't know if it'll scan for things on the same install media-- it's a matter of trial&error |
| 05:12.48 | NahUndFern | beepie, I know, I just really wanted to see how i could do it, but yeah, maybe it's time for plan b |
| 05:13.12 | beepie | NahUndFern, possibly you can jump to an alternate "console" and mount the the filesytem manually, go back to the install and specify a path -- though i don't know if that 'll work |
| 05:13.27 | beepie | NahUndFern, i suppose it's possible though i think you should be using a non-install media to do this |
| 05:14.42 | NahUndFern | beepie, Yeah, I've seen a lot of errors trying to do it on the same device, I'm going to try out the firmware install media instead i think |
| 05:14.45 | beepie | NahUndFern, you can always install the system, then come back to it later |
| 05:15.06 | beepie | NahUndFern, but if your wire or wifi requires firmware non-free to work properly then you have to joggle around different machines |
| 05:15.27 | beepie | NahUndFern, in order to reformat that usb stick, and re-copy the needed .debs/firmware files |
| 05:15.39 | NahUndFern | beepie, Yep, both wifi driver and a rtl driver needs firmware lol |
| 05:16.02 | beepie | NahUndFern, you doing this all on one PC? |
| 05:16.09 | beepie | NahUndFern, you don't have more than 1 usb-port? |
| 05:16.24 | beepie | NahUndFern, here i almost had to deal with such a setup on a micro/mini pc |
| 05:16.29 | beepie | NahUndFern, :p |
| 05:16.46 | NahUndFern | Just a laptop. Yes i have more than one usb-port. Another USB stick is what I'm lacking lol |
| 05:16.54 | beepie | NahUndFern, though i was glad i can pull out an unneeded mouse during the install :) |
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| 05:17.35 | beepie | NahUndFern, easier to just install the base |
| 05:17.56 | NahUndFern | beepie, Sorry, what do you mean?? |
| 05:18.03 | beepie | NahUndFern, then come back to it later, --- you can see dependencies using -> dpkg -I <.deb> -- the packages.debian.org site should mention dependencies as well |
| 05:18.25 | beepie | NahUndFern, you could reuse that usb stick on the internet machine, to later manually transfer things with dpkg -i |
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| 05:18.58 | beepie | NahUndFern, I suppose you just need 1 or 2 firmware packages |
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| 05:19.28 | beepie | NahUndFern, do you know the dmesg output ? ("missing firmware xyz" )-- you can search for xyz and use that firmware package |
| 05:19.28 | NahUndFern | beepie, That would probably be a good thing to do, but i don't have anything else i can install those packages with |
| 05:19.44 | beepie | NahUndFern, how are you using the internet on this irc? |
| 05:20.03 | beepie | NahUndFern, you got just 1 pc? |
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| 05:20.27 | NahUndFern | beepie, One laptop and a headless pi is the only thing i have where i currently am |
| 05:20.53 | beepie | NahUndFern, you could keep the usb stick with the extra partition you made, |
| 05:20.56 | NahUndFern | i need this laptop to control that pi since i have no usb keyboards or even a display where i am right now for that matter |
| 05:21.02 | beepie | NahUndFern, i don't think it'll damage the installer |
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| 06:26.26 | dionysus69 | if I remove thunderbird and install icedove do I loose my data or it will use thunderbird data ? |
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| 06:26.42 | svetlana | it will use |
| 06:26.49 | dionysus69 | kk thanks |
| 06:27.02 | dionysus69 | because I am lazy to update it manually every time lol |
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| 06:29.17 | rhizome | you might have to futz with the profile to get back to your old one. there are howtos out there |
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| 06:36.06 | karstensrage | is it ok to ask about getting some freelance help? |
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| 06:36.32 | nkuttler | !consultants |
| 06:36.32 | dpkg | consultants is probably http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 06:36.36 | Abbott | does Debian linux come with a firewall? I haven't gone out of my way to install a firewall, so I probably don't have one, right? |
| 06:36.46 | nkuttler | Abbott: right |
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| 06:37.26 | Abbott | ok thanks guys |
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| 06:47.06 | x032cx | am trying to find a work around here, there is no option to upgrade to jessie but i need support for html5 in iceweasel, is this possible |
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| 06:48.02 | karstensrage | hmm nkuttler those all seem like administration |
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| 06:50.56 | karstensrage | i wrote a pam module and it depends on a library, id like help from someone to create what ever is needed so you can do: apt-get install pam_foo |
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| 06:52.27 | karstensrage | and the devil for me is in the details of how that works with 12.04 vs 14.04 or 13.10 |
| 06:52.42 | karstensrage | and that it depends on some other libs namely libxml2 and libssl |
| 06:53.04 | karstensrage | and im willing to pay someone to do it |
| 06:53.09 | karstensrage | that knows how |
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| 06:59.30 | dionysus69 | hey so i have this quest to solve can you help me with teamviewer vnc battle? |
| 06:59.41 | nkuttler | karstensrage: sounds like ubuntu questions? |
| 06:59.52 | nkuttler | karstensrage: if you need help with packaging for debian |
| 06:59.56 | nkuttler | !tell karstensrage about mentors |
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| 07:00.15 | pragomer_1 | hello. I want to realize a pxe server, so that I could start e.g. linux-distro-isos, but also a windows7-setup-iso, kaspersky, avira-iso etc.. from network.. can I realize such an "all-in-one-pxe-server" with debian? and how? |
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| 07:00.54 | karstensrage | is apt debian or ubuntu? |
| 07:01.11 | Shadow_7 | debian predates ubuntu |
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| 07:01.40 | karstensrage | i mean you run apt-get on ubuntu |
| 07:01.48 | karstensrage | do you also run it on debian? |
| 07:02.09 | karstensrage | to install package? |
| 07:02.12 | Shadow_7 | ,v apt-get |
| 07:02.12 | karstensrage | packages? |
| 07:02.13 | judd | No package named 'apt-get' was found in amd64. |
| 07:02.29 | Shadow_7 | ,v apt |
| 07:02.30 | judd | Package: apt on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 0.8.10.3+squeeze7; wheezy-security: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie: 1.0.9.8.1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.9.8.2; sid: 1.1.10; stretch: 1.1.10 |
| 07:02.35 | JeremyE7_ | sudo apt-get |
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| 07:03.13 | dionysus69 | is there a open source alternative to teamviewer? if I use vnc then I need to setup router etc which teamviewer doesnt need. So? |
| 07:03.46 | JeremyE7_ | teamviewer used to be java I thought |
| 07:04.02 | Shadow_7 | dionysus69: jitsy (or was it jitsi)... sips has video and other things |
| 07:04.06 | dionysus69 | what is it "to be java" |
| 07:04.18 | dionysus69 | will take a look thx |
| 07:04.32 | JeremyE7_ | nm I was thinking of a software with a similar name |
| 07:04.52 | Shadow_7 | although if you're going to talk with winder types, teamviewer or skype are basically your options |
| 07:05.04 | Shadow_7 | outside of hosted options like google hangouts |
| 07:05.08 | dionysus69 | ye I want cross platform solution |
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| 07:05.31 | JeremyE7_ | there is a teamviewer for Linux. Does that fulfill your wish? |
| 07:05.35 | towo^work | there is no oss equivalent to reamviewer |
| 07:05.37 | dionysus69 | so far teamviewer seems to be the only solution and its famous for insecurity |
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| 07:05.51 | towo^work | but there are better working closed source alternatives |
| 07:05.57 | dionysus69 | like? |
| 07:06.04 | JeremyE7_ | https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx |
| 07:06.14 | dionysus69 | ye I know it exists i have it installed |
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| 07:06.36 | towo^work | anydesk, chrome remote desktop |
| 07:06.49 | dionysus69 | cool will check them out |
| 07:06.53 | dionysus69 | thanks |
| 07:06.58 | towo^work | both are cross platform even |
| 07:07.38 | Shadow_7 | I suppose the old cuseeme stuff works cross platform too. Although the other end would have to be slightly tech savvy |
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| 07:08.32 | Shadow_7 | and not so good for more than one on one |
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| 08:36.01 | touki | Hey, I have a problem with CUPS: "Unable to send data to printer". When I do lsusb, I can see the printer connected, and printer was working OK before. Any ideas? |
| 08:36.26 | Shadow_7 | touki: check dmesg for issues |
| 08:37.00 | Resilience | my root partition has gone from rw to ro, so when I shut down the system the filesystem is going to be corrupted, how can I remount with rw? mount | grep sdb -> /dev/sdb1 on / type ext4 (ro,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) |
| 08:37.35 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: # mount -o remount,rw / |
| 08:37.46 | Resilience | shad0VV, thanks |
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| 08:38.07 | Shadow_7 | in systemd if you don't setup /etc/fstab it's ro when you boot |
| 08:38.10 | touki | Shadow_7: Detected and all: http://paste.debian.net/361012/ |
| 08:38.19 | Resilience | mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected |
| 08:38.28 | Resilience | :( |
| 08:39.03 | Shadow_7 | touki: does a reboot resolve the print issue? |
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| 08:39.33 | Shadow_7 | assuming the printer worked previously |
| 08:39.47 | touki | Shadow_7: It didn't the first time. You assume correctly |
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| 08:40.15 | Resilience | Shadow_7, uptime -> 09:38:46 up 2 days this is not a boot issue |
| 08:40.47 | Shadow_7 | so never worked? or got it to work at some point before your current status |
| 08:41.10 | Resilience | Shadow_7, mount -o remount,rw / -> mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected (now I remember this is why I have asked here instead of searching it at google, it happened to me the other day) |
| 08:41.13 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: you can do a lot of things on a read-only filesystem. |
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| 08:41.40 | Resilience | Shadow_7, maybe, but if I do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade it fails... |
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| 08:41.56 | Shadow_7 | as will logging... fail |
| 08:42.36 | Shadow_7 | Is this flash based storage? they fail to read-only when they run out of write cycles |
| 08:43.45 | Resilience | Shadow_7, no, it is a hard disk, but I'm getting some trouble since the last ernel update with it, the computer is a vaio laptop and it seemes there are some issues about the hard disk controller and acpi |
| 08:44.53 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: tried booting with acpi=nopci as a kernel parm? |
| 08:45.09 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: "e" to edit a menu entry in grub (f10? to boot the edit) |
| 08:45.34 | Resilience | shad0VV, no, never, this is happening since 3 o 4 days, and my first problem is turining the / partititon remountd as rw.... |
| 08:45.58 | Resilience | Shadow_7, thanks for the tips on grub (very useful) |
| 08:46.58 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: once you have it rw, perhaps an older kernel is still in /var/cache/apt/archives that you could install/use to fix the issue |
| 08:47.41 | Shadow_7 | or the pending updates fixes it |
| 08:48.00 | Resilience | Shadow_7, I have some kernels in /boot (I always keep them in order to heal issues like this) so no problem about it |
| 08:48.06 | moozer | Have anyone looked into making default-deny rules in apparmor? |
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| 08:48.32 | Resilience | Shadow_7, there is an actual update for the kernel, but my problem is that I cannot remount rw the partition... |
| 08:48.38 | moozer | can you something that is more general than making profiles for specific binaries/scripts? |
| 08:49.15 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: if you have another boot option, you can do the update in a chroot |
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| 08:52.29 | Resilience | Shadow_7, and what about remounting rw the partition... mount keeps failing |
| 08:52.50 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: perhaps the harddrive has issues... or the filesystem is already corrupt |
| 08:53.19 | Shadow_7 | it's read-only, so probably safe to fsck it |
| 08:53.43 | Resilience | Shadow_7, mount -o remount,rw / -> mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected why it is wirte protected? |
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| 08:55.53 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: your guess is as good as mine |
| 08:56.08 | Resilience | shad0VV, is there some way to force the remounting? |
| 08:56.17 | Resilience | Shadow_7, , is there some way to force the remounting? |
| 08:56.34 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: man mount... I think there is a --force or -f type thing for it |
| 08:56.58 | Shadow_7 | but ... high odds of making it worse |
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| 08:57.06 | Shadow_7 | far higher than just rebooting |
| 08:57.25 | Resilience | Shadow_7, last times that this issue happened meant to have the journal corrupted... |
| 08:57.50 | Shadow_7 | not that big of a deal since the underlaying fs is ext2 |
| 08:58.01 | Shadow_7 | it just takes forever to fsck |
| 08:58.37 | moozer | Resilience: Last time I saw something like thata, I had a lot of stuff in dmesg, that told me about hw error. |
| 08:59.04 | Resilience | Shadow_7, it is ext4... |
| 08:59.21 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: ext3, ext4 is mostly ext2 + a journal |
| 08:59.23 | Resilience | moozer, the issue seems correlated with a timeout due to a buggy controller in my vaio laptop |
| 08:59.44 | Resilience | Shadow_7, ah ok thanks, I am not very versed in the filesyste internals (just a user in this area, sorry) |
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| 09:00.07 | Shadow_7 | Resilience: well you fiddle with it with e2fstune... aka there is no e4fstune |
| 09:00.37 | moozer | Resilience: firmware upgrade? |
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| 09:01.27 | Resilience | moozer, no, kernel upgrade |
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| 09:02.04 | moozer | Resilience: Maybe there is a vaio firmware/BIOS upgrade available that update the controller firmware |
| 09:02.36 | Resilience | moozer, maybe |
| 09:02.55 | Resilience | moozer, but this is the vaio's that hey aren't being updated for windows 10 so... |
| 09:03.02 | Arone2 | hello |
| 09:03.12 | Arone2 | how i can execute a script before shutdown ? with the update.rcd ? or other ? |
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| 09:04.19 | Shadow_7 | Arone2: with sysv you would have a K##... in the appropriate /etc/rc?.d/ ... where S## is starts, K## is stops |
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| 09:04.39 | Shadow_7 | not sure if systemd has equivalents |
| 09:06.08 | Resilience | going to reboot /groan/ |
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| 09:07.44 | fishbulb | hi. youtube, and animated gifs get HELLISH artifacts and weird stuff happening after they've played once. like a corrupted moving gif file once they have been played ONCE |
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| 09:08.58 | fishbulb | in iceweasel |
| 09:08.59 | fishbulb | not in chrome |
| 09:10.15 | fishbulb | I have fresh player installed, not flash, obviously I'm using jessie, it's relatively vanilla, so far I'm trying to get it working, and apart from initial hardware detection being fantastic, this is turning into a nightmare |
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| 09:18.02 | sumi | hello |
| 09:18.02 | fishbulb | FUCK THIS. |
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| 09:18.08 | fishbulb | wrong channel sorry |
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| 09:18.36 | fishbulb | there's really bad square artifacts on flash videos and basically every video in iceweasel |
| 09:18.44 | fishbulb | and animated gifs |
| 09:18.50 | fishbulb | they'll play once fine |
| 09:18.52 | fishbulb | then they wonj't. |
| 09:19.12 | fishbulb | they look corrupted on the second play and it makes the internet unbearable |
| 09:19.38 | sumi | why flash? |
| 09:20.56 | fishbulb | um |
| 09:20.59 | fishbulb | I don't mean flash videos |
| 09:21.05 | fishbulb | I meant youtube |
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| 09:21.27 | Nebukadneza | hi |
| 09:21.30 | fishbulb | man whatever they put in pringles is like brain clogging poison |
| 09:22.15 | Shadow_7 | if you're using a cell network they re-encode already re-encoded videos to lower the bitrate. |
| 09:22.16 | Nebukadneza | i just wanted do install he debian main security updates for git and linux-image this night, but for some reason they do not seem to be signed with the usual key, so aptitude warn they’re „untrusted“ |
| 09:22.23 | Shadow_7 | aka binge on |
| 09:22.36 | fishbulb | well, I'm not using a cell network |
| 09:22.43 | fishbulb | this is a fibre connection |
| 09:22.50 | fishbulb | I don't know why it's happening |
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| 09:23.17 | Shadow_7 | perhaps a lot of youtube-dl in your future |
| 09:23.30 | fishbulb | no, an uninstall of debian |
| 09:23.41 | themill | Nebukadneza: check the version of debian-archive-keyring you have installed; an apt-get update should solve this. |
| 09:24.19 | Nebukadneza | 2014.3, with no new version available |
| 09:24.38 | themill | sounds fine |
| 09:25.04 | Nebukadneza | debian-keyring is 2015.04.10, also nothing new |
| 09:25.12 | themill | that's not used |
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| 09:26.16 | fishbulb | does anyone have an idea of why after one play of a youtube or any online video, the thing looks like a square artifact ridden piece of crap |
| 09:26.20 | moozer | Nebukadneza: I find that apt-get update often fixed that |
| 09:26.25 | fishbulb | also with animated gifs |
| 09:26.53 | Nebukadneza | for some reason not :/ |
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| 09:27.32 | themill | Nebukadneza: can you pastebin the entirety of apt-get update? (perhaps delete the relevant files from /var/apt/lists first) |
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| 09:27.48 | Nebukadneza | oh, that’s a good idea |
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| 09:30.29 | fishbulb | what can I do to test WHY I'm getting artifacts like crazy |
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| 09:34.47 | kingkong | hi. i want to install something without installing extra packages. how to do it? |
| 09:35.35 | kingkong | --no-install-suggests still asks me extra packages installing |
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| 09:36.11 | bazhang | kingkong, are all the depends satisfied |
| 09:36.14 | themill | if packages are dependencies, then there is no way around that |
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| 09:36.30 | bazhang | dencies |
| 09:36.45 | bazhang | depends is something else |
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| 09:37.44 | kingkong | all extra packages should be installed? |
| 09:38.02 | themill | kingkong: what are you really trying to do? |
| 09:38.06 | eclectichedgehog | kingkong: --no-install-recommends |
| 09:38.30 | sumi | i noticed youtube stopped trying to serve you the hd videos right of the bat, maybe you're playing 240p videos? |
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| 09:39.07 | kingkong | eclectichedgehog: its still asking to install extra packages |
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| 09:40.11 | eclectichedgehog | kingkong: as said already, those "extra" packages are dependencies |
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| 09:40.44 | kingkong | themill: to install only python-twisted and python-twisted-names for example. asking me 13 more extras install |
| 09:41.13 | themill | and that is a problem because? |
| 09:41.33 | themill | dependencies are dependencies. |
| 09:41.40 | kingkong | i dont want extras if not needed |
| 09:41.50 | themill | they are not unneeded |
| 09:41.51 | bazhang | ther are needed |
| 09:42.03 | eclectichedgehog | kingkong: a package will have dependencies, some dependecies will have their own dependecies |
| 09:42.04 | kingkong | they are extras or dependencies? |
| 09:42.22 | themill | kingkong: there is no such thing as "extras". |
| 09:42.37 | themill | You might also like to read the description of the python-twisted package. |
| 09:42.43 | eclectichedgehog | themill: there are in cricket... |
| 09:42.43 | kingkong | extra packages |
| 09:43.09 | themill | eclectichedgehog: sadly, there has been very little cricket |
| 09:43.16 | kingkong | all extra packages are dependencies? |
| 09:43.52 | bazhang | the debian packages website should have alist of that |
| 09:44.33 | hyperborean | kingkong: some programms have a lot of dependencies, some less. but essentially if you are using apt-get or aptitude and have chosen to install one package and then see that with it are going to be installed 12 extras, yes. those are dependencies |
| 09:45.25 | kingkong | so, all extra packages are dependencies then. |
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| 09:46.13 | kingkong | ok thanks you guys |
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| 09:47.45 | eclectichedgehog | kingkong: also with a fresh install, installing a package may pull in a lot of other dependencies. if the install is say a year old and you require the same package you may find not so many dependencies get install as some of those may already be installed as a result of installing other packages |
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| 09:53.12 | kingkong | yes i see |
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| 10:29.16 | hyperborean | hey guys, my laptop had a problem with systemd so I instlled stable with sysvinit. Otherwise I could not boot up the encrypted partition. Now none of my pm tools work. Worked perfect on wheezy, after I installed jessie and dealing with the systemd problems pm-tools just freeze when I try to hybernate or suspend. Sometimes suspend worked but when I wake it up it is frozen. Anyone has an idea where I sho |
| 10:29.22 | hyperborean | uld start looking? |
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| 10:33.34 | Arone2 | thank |
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| 10:36.50 | idk_ | Where should "export TERM" be executed? In .bashrc is bad according to some people. Using *termName in Xresources and xrdb reloading doesn't work. Everybody seems to have different methods when googling on this. |
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| 10:39.24 | teraflops | idk_: why do you want to export term? Lack of terminfo when doing ssh? |
| 10:41.35 | idk_ | teraflops: I want 256 colors in xterm, so I though that was the way to do it. I am not doing any SSHing, yet. |
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| 10:45.09 | teraflops | .bashrc seems OK for me |
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| 10:47.44 | hyperborean | or .profile |
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| 10:49.58 | zleap | what tells debian jessie to load gnome as the default window manager i am trying to change it to lxde and getting no where i have REMOVED gnome with apt-get remove gnome |
| 10:50.05 | idk_ | hyperborean: Doesnt only login shells read from .profile? |
| 10:50.34 | teraflops | Or .xprofile since it's for X... |
| 10:51.11 | zleap | ah thanks |
| 10:51.34 | zleap | and that is in my home directory |
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| 10:51.53 | hyperborean | idk_: yeah, xprofile is better |
| 10:51.59 | hyperborean | .xprofile |
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| 10:52.21 | teraflops | zleap: update alternatives? |
| 10:52.22 | idk_ | teraflops: Ok, thanks :) What if I am using different shells? Do I have to export it in all .*rc then? It feels that TERM should be set "more" globally no matter what shell. Sorry, but I am new to this, trying to grasp around it. |
| 10:52.59 | zleap | ? |
| 10:53.09 | jpinx | !tell idk_ about remove gnome |
| 10:53.17 | zleap | .xprofile is empty |
| 10:53.22 | zleap | as is .xinitrc |
| 10:53.36 | jpinx | !tell zleap about remove gnome |
| 10:53.40 | idk_ | zleap: his answer about xprofile was to me, not you :) |
| 10:53.41 | teraflops | idk_: I'd Just use a saner terminal emulator... Anyway whatever suits your boua |
| 10:53.49 | teraflops | Boat |
| 10:54.23 | zleap | apt-get purge gnome |
| 10:54.24 | teraflops | zleap: if yore doing startx is update alternatives related |
| 10:54.36 | zleap | not sure |
| 10:54.44 | zleap | ok dpkg just told me to use purge |
| 10:54.49 | jpinx | zleap: read what dpkg told you |
| 10:54.51 | zleap | i did that it is telling me that gnome is not installed |
| 10:55.05 | idk_ | teraflops: You mean there are terminals that have 256 colors by default? Doesnt TERM need to be set either way, to let other programs know its capabilities? |
| 10:55.38 | teraflops | idk_: this is 2016 not 1998 :P |
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| 10:56.23 | idk_ | teraflops: Ok ok :P What terminal are you using? |
| 10:56.39 | wrksx | babilen, hey are you feelin better today? |
| 10:56.59 | teraflops | Gnome terminal terminator St... |
| 10:57.39 | hyperborean | idk_: rxvt-unicode is nice too |
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| 11:00.38 | idk_ | hyperborean: Ive used it a few times, but long time ago so memory is a bit blurry. But it had some problems with fonts and highlighting, also Perl is not my favorite. Was thinking of giving a uxterm a go now. Been having a long break from linux. |
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| 11:01.56 | idk_ | teraflops: I remember ST didnt have 256 colors, or was it unicode support. But now it looks like they have both :O |
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| 11:02.29 | hyperborean | idk_: hmm it works good for me, no problems with fonts and highlighting. don't know about perl though? never had to use it with it heh |
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| 11:04.16 | zleap | so am i setting a default window manager or display environment |
| 11:04.38 | zleap | as if they are the same thing then what ever i try and google for it tells me something different |
| 11:05.13 | Yopyop | Hello, i'm having trouble with ldap, nslcd and group : i'm using labeledURI to populate posixgroup. The attribute memberUid is well filled with uid and "getent group <group>" return the group. But group does not appear when i use "group <user>" and i got permission denied so it's not working. When i use the field member, it's ok but not auto filled. |
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| 11:08.03 | teraflops | idk_: it has now yes |
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| 11:09.18 | teraflops | zleap: this is the 3rd time i tell you to use update-alternatives if you do startx for starting the DE |
| 11:09.36 | zleap | i am doing |
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| 11:10.06 | zleap | is there a difference between window manager and display environment |
| 11:10.30 | nevyn | session manager? |
| 11:10.37 | nevyn | you want the plain X one |
| 11:11.38 | zleap | i guess |
| 11:11.49 | zleap | i just want something other than gnome by default |
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| 11:11.54 | zleap | lxde is installed |
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| 11:13.12 | babilen | wrksx: Why wouldn't I? |
| 11:13.59 | wrksx | babilen, dunno just asking. Hope you don't mind! |
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| 11:15.47 | babilen | wrksx: Well, given that I have been feeling fine for a while, you start to wonder, but let's not continue this off-topic chat in here. |
| 11:17.46 | wrksx | babilen, yeahhhhh let's not polute the chat history with some non debian stuff. Thanks for that bit of chat. |
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| 11:22.37 | teraflops | zleap: btw take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE |
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| 11:26.08 | zleap | but teraflops that seems to work, thanks |
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| 11:27.29 | hyperborean | zleap: also can recommend you to take a look at tiling window managers...if you work with terminals a lot is very conveinient |
| 11:27.44 | hyperborean | zleap: I use and prefer i3 but there are others |
| 11:27.59 | teraflops | zleap: np |
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| 11:38.36 | zamba | lo, guys |
| 11:38.57 | zamba | i have an issue with one of my network interfaces.. at random interval it just dies.. it seems like it's issues with the kernel somehow |
| 11:39.15 | zamba | the solution then is to do ifdown <interface> ; ifup <interface> |
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| 11:44.15 | teraflops | zamba: sorry is that a question? |
| 11:44.32 | zamba | if i try to use nmap to scan for targets in the network associated with that interface, i get errors such as this: WARNING: eth_send of ARP packet returned -1 rather than expected 42 (errno=105: No buffer space available) |
| 11:44.37 | zamba | teraflops: i'm getting there :) |
| 11:44.45 | zamba | or rather, i've arrived now |
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| 11:55.28 | that2 | anyone able to give some advice which debian to use for a older pc? |
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| 11:57.20 | zleap | that2 |
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| 11:57.53 | markybob | zleap, that was great advice |
| 11:58.23 | zleap | he has gone |
| 11:58.52 | zleap | i was going suggest to use the latest debian and install a lightweight desktop |
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| 12:00.56 | wrksx | "which Debian" -> are there multiple debian? |
| 12:01.02 | zamba | any idea to my issue? |
| 12:01.05 | wrksx | I didn't know |
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| 12:01.36 | zleap | Debian 8 is the latest |
| 12:01.51 | Shadow_7 | if it's a really old machine, perhaps woody |
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| 12:02.01 | wrksx | zamba, did you google that: "nmap errno=105: No buffer space available" |
| 12:02.08 | TinkerTiger | There are many debian based distrobutions, but even though they are based on Debian, they aren't called Debian because of changes that have been made to them. |
| 12:02.08 | zleap | i was thinking about updates etc |
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| 12:02.12 | Shadow_7 | when i386 meant 16 bit |
| 12:02.14 | TinkerTiger | Depends on how old the system is. |
| 12:02.46 | Ashleee | hey, is this channel suited for package building questions or is there a special channel? |
| 12:02.54 | Shadow_7 | and linux didn't require 1TB ram to load the kernel |
| 12:03.13 | Shadow_7 | Ashleee: package building for debian stable? |
| 12:03.17 | themill | Ashleee: you can ask here but you might do better in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 12:03.43 | Ashleee | just have a simpel question -- when building some library package they often include header files. Is there an easy way to generate base lib* package and then lib*-dev? |
| 12:04.08 | Ashleee | as in separate header files into the -dev package |
| 12:04.19 | Shadow_7 | Ashleee: most of that is configured in the ./debian/* of the sources of a package. |
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| 12:05.02 | Ashleee | I figured as much, but I cannot find any information about this ... unless I have to manually create two separate packages and somehow throw away the header files from one package and throw away the lib*.so from the -dev package |
| 12:05.31 | Shadow_7 | Ashleee: apt-get source <some simple lib> and see what it does. |
| 12:05.40 | Ashleee | heh, good idea :D thanks |
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| 12:06.49 | Shadow_7 | Ashleee: otherwise ... |
| 12:06.54 | Shadow_7 | !mentor |
| 12:06.55 | dpkg | hmm... mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 12:07.17 | Shadow_7 | some documentation and links from those the maintainers with more detailsed stuff |
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| 12:07.43 | Ashleee | thanks |
| 12:08.01 | Ashleee | libssh-dev is a good starting point probably (first that came to my mind) |
| 12:08.23 | Ashleee | cheers and have a nice day! |
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| 12:15.40 | zamba | i want to enable nfs version 3 over tcp.. how do i do that? |
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| 12:16.45 | roylaprattep | NFS server does not support MOUNT version 3 over TCP |
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| 12:16.56 | zamba | ok, that was entirely my bad.. fixed it now :) |
| 12:17.30 | markybob | zamba, you could use nfsv4 over tcp |
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| 12:18.32 | zamba | markybob: i got it working.. no worries :) |
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| 12:21.07 | TinkerTiger | My question is regarding external USB drives. I'd like mine to spin down when it's not being used. I just don't know how to set that. :) |
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| 12:21.41 | markybob | TinkerTiger, that's the default. you really don't have to do anything. |
| 12:23.25 | stoned | Morning |
| 12:23.25 | Shadow_7 | if you umount it and unplug it. :) ... or hdpart smartd, and other stuff, but does that by default unless something uses it. |
| 12:23.26 | TinkerTiger | I would think, but I always hear it spinning. |
| 12:24.07 | TinkerTiger | It shouldn't be used as much as I hear it on. It's, one of my, shared media drives. |
| 12:24.13 | markybob | TinkerTiger, if you dont use it for 20 min, then try to access it, does it take a long time and make more noise? |
| 12:24.15 | Shadow_7 | smartd might not... as it monitors the integrity of devices and therefor probably uses them / stresses them |
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| 12:25.08 | TinkerTiger | So far, access time has not been slow. I rarely access it directly though. (Moving videos to it right now though.) |
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| 12:25.51 | Shadow_7 | TinkerTiger: dpkg -l | grep -i smartmontools |
| 12:26.04 | TinkerTiger | One sec. |
| 12:26.08 | markybob | TinkerTiger, it wouldn't be slow if you're transferring things. default will put it to sleep. |
| 12:26.43 | TinkerTiger | Right, I hear you. I'm just saying it doesn't sound like it's going to sleep. |
| 12:27.04 | TinkerTiger | No smartmontools. |
| 12:27.47 | Shadow_7 | when you do updates it'll probe drives. adobe flash probably probes drives. .adobe always seems to be exactly 50% of my /home/ |
| 12:28.05 | TinkerTiger | nods. |
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| 12:28.17 | TinkerTiger | I don't run a GUI on this machine. CLI only. |
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| 12:44.42 | vdv | anybody familiar with autofs here? i have a problem cifs mount not expiring after timeout, here's the output of 'automount -f -d': http://pastebin.com/9fSMiryh |
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| 12:52.22 | ChrisH | vdv: I did not yet use AutoFS with CIFS, but with NFS. Please show your auto.master and other relevant auto* configfiles on paste.debian.net |
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| 12:53.17 | vdv | ChrisH, btw it works for nfs, shares unmounted after timeout |
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| 12:57.13 | vdv | ChrisH, http://paste.debian.net/361099/ <-- auto.master |
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| 12:58.26 | vdv | ChrisH, http://paste.debian.net/361100/ <--auto.share |
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| 13:01.00 | vdv | ChrisH, i just saw that for nfs unmount doesn't work too |
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| 13:01.32 | vdv | ChrisH, but it did work before, when i used -hosts map |
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| 13:02.20 | vdv | ChrisH, 2 remaining in /net/wdmycloud expire_cleanup: got thid 3053452096 path /net/wdmycloud stat 4 expire_cleanup: sigchld: exp 3053452096 finished, switching from 2 to 1 |
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| 13:02.40 | vdv | ChrisH, it's printed constantly |
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| 13:04.59 | abrotman | johnfg: I was, sort of .. What's up? or get it sorted out? |
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| 13:06.57 | ChrisH | vdv: reading the config files, I remembered why I did not yet used it :) Maybe systemd or some other process (like a filebrowser) keeps it open |
| 13:07.21 | abrotman | looks at dpkg and stew ... |
| 13:08.20 | vdv | ChrisH, after starting 'automount -f -d' i just to ls in terminal and that's it |
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| 13:09.31 | vdv | ChrisH, i don't open any other application |
| 13:09.54 | ChrisH | vdv: no DE activ? any chance to run fuser on the mountpoint? |
| 13:10.46 | vdv | ChrisH, fuser returns nothing |
| 13:11.03 | vdv | ChrisH, kde is running |
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| 13:11.45 | vdv | ChrisH, lsof doesn't return anything either |
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| 13:20.50 | ChrisH | vdv: strange |
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| 13:22.03 | vdv | ChrisH, also it's strange that comments in auto.master work only if the whole line is comment :) |
| 13:22.44 | vdv | ChrisH, putting dash sign in the middle of the line don't comment the rest of the line out |
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| 13:25.29 | ChrisH | vdv: man auto.master Lines beginning with # are comments. # IIRC this was the same on SunOS/solaris in the good old Sun days :) |
| 13:25.45 | vdv | ChrisH, very confusing :) |
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| 13:33.55 | vdv | ChrisH, haha, i'm observing interesting behaviour |
| 13:34.15 | vdv | ChrisH, do you know what i've tested just right now? :) |
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| 13:34.57 | vdv | ChrisH, expire_cleanup: got thid 3051354944 path /net/wdmycloud stat 0 |
| 13:35.05 | vdv | ChrisH, stat 0 |
| 13:36.00 | vdv | ChrisH, i did 'ls /net/wdmycloud/cifs/Data' from tty, i.e. not from terminal emulator (konsole) |
| 13:36.27 | vdv | ChrisH, and after timeout of 10 seconds share was unmounted |
| 13:37.39 | vdv | ChrisH, do you maybe know what is holding mount point if i'm in kde? |
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| 13:39.42 | vdv | ChrisH, i found it!!! |
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| 13:41.45 | fishbulb | hello |
| 13:41.58 | vdv | ChrisH, it was kde's device notifier!! |
| 13:42.13 | fishbulb | can someone tell me why every video in iceweasel goes to blocky corrupted artifacts after being played once |
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| 13:42.19 | fishbulb | and not in chrome |
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| 13:44.58 | ChrisH | vdv: I assumed something like that :) Therefore I asked for any DE |
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| 13:46.37 | vdv | ChrisH, it's awful :) |
| 13:47.36 | vdv | ChrisH, interesting is, that device notifier knows about automount's mount point only if i accessed mount point from some kde app |
| 13:48.04 | vdv | ChrisH, if i accessed mount point from tty for example, then device notifier has not idea about mount point |
| 13:48.13 | vdv | ChrisH, probably it's because of dbus |
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| 13:53.12 | ChrisH | vdv: Most probaly. Now as you have a working CIFs mount, can you access these files without issues? I see problems accessing my files from applications like kid3 or darktable. It just simply stops working or files gets unlimited filesize upon copy (untill the FS is full) |
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| 13:53.55 | vdv | ChrisH, let's see, not tested that yet |
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| 13:55.23 | ChrisH | vdv: I mount from fstab with user option. If your way works, I would change to autofs |
| 13:55.26 | fishbulb | how do I find out why all of a sudden every video and animated gif in iceweasel |
| 13:55.31 | fishbulb | is corrupted after the first play |
| 13:55.50 | fishbulb | ok fuck this I'm uninstalling iceweasel, fuck debian, I'm sick of this shit, no wonder that guy killed himself |
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| 13:57.19 | tori | ciao |
| 13:57.26 | tori | !list |
| 13:57.26 | dpkg | tori: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 14:00.20 | johnfg | Here's the first of the cmds that I ran in trying to restore my jessie system through a reinstall: http://paste.debian.net/361164/ |
| 14:00.22 | stoned | That makes me want to punch fishbulb in the face. |
| 14:00.28 | stoned | Unpleasant. |
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| 14:01.25 | johnfg | After getting many of the pkgs reinstalled, I ran `dpkg --configure -a`. I'll show you the paste of the results. |
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| 14:01.44 | stoned | Wake up and come to IRC and that's the first thing. Anyway, when I start google-chrome, it runs the process, but window never shows up. When I run google-chrome-stable it does show up. |
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| 14:02.12 | stoned | I used the google chrome package .deb from the chrome downlaod page |
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| 14:03.05 | vdv | ChrisH, so i tested now with some standard kde apps (dolphin, kwrite, konsole) and i have no issues when coping or saving files into cifs share |
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| 14:03.08 | jelly | stoned: what does readlink -f $(which google-chrome) say |
| 14:03.09 | stoned | Chromium and chrome both use over 500mb or ram per process/tab etc. |
| 14:03.22 | stoned | jelly: I think it's mapped to the stable binary let em check |
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| 14:03.39 | stoned | /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome |
| 14:03.44 | vdv | ChrisH, but i don't know if it's true for kid3 or darktable, i don't have them installed |
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| 14:04.32 | jelly | stoned: so they point to the exact same executable |
| 14:04.45 | stoned | jelly: yes afaik |
| 14:04.55 | johnfg | Here's the long output of the dpkg --configure -a cmd: http://paste.debian.net/361175/ |
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| 14:05.07 | stoned | I run google-chrome, then I have to pkill chrome and start again, and it works. |
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| 14:05.54 | stoned | There is an option "enable chrome to run in background" |
| 14:05.55 | jelly | stoned: report that to the vendor, I guess! |
| 14:06.10 | stoned | jelly: I woudl happily use chromium package if it could play netflix for me |
| 14:06.20 | stoned | I can't seem to find a widewine conent plugin for chromium |
| 14:06.22 | jelly | nothing debian can do about bugs in google's package |
| 14:06.24 | stoned | Chrome is bundled with i |
| 14:06.35 | nkuttler | johnfg: I find that doing a proper reinstall is always faster than trying to fix stuff.. |
| 14:06.38 | stoned | I know. I wouldn't ask for that support here. Just mentioning. |
| 14:06.40 | verwilst | Hello, trying to get the deps of my dsc package installed when using pdebuild.. any idea? now i just get dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: xxx yyy zzz |
| 14:06.54 | stoned | Though, if you can possibly help me figure out netflix in chromium, I have no need for chrome hen |
| 14:06.56 | stoned | then* |
| 14:07.04 | verwilst | can't pdebuild install them itself? |
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| 14:07.35 | johnfg | And here's the output of `apt-cache policy` http://paste.debian.net/361176/ |
| 14:08.13 | stoned | It's always a problem asking for help to make non-free stuff workon free OS |
| 14:08.21 | stoned | Most of the time things dont' play nice |
| 14:08.26 | johnfg | nkuttler: Do you mean actually doing a fresh install? I tried the reinstall per the bot, but am having some problems. |
| 14:08.39 | stoned | And lack of other people using the same kind of setup or something |
| 14:09.00 | nkuttler | johnfg: yeah, a new install |
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| 14:09.03 | swift110-phone | Hey |
| 14:09.15 | nkuttler | johnfg: that's assuming you can easily restore your user data + config |
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| 14:09.52 | johnfg | So, all that I just explained and pasted, was asked for last night, by jordanm, via a bot message. |
| 14:10.00 | johnfg | Any help would be appreciated. |
| 14:10.14 | jelly | johnfg: you'll have to deal with --configure issues one by one. Also I hope you have saved a list of the package names you skipped for reinstallation, so you can do them later or manually |
| 14:10.31 | johnfg | nkuttler: If it comes down to it, I can do a fresh install. |
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| 14:11.22 | jelly | johnfg: for example: does /etc/emacs23/site-start.d directory exist at all? |
| 14:11.26 | johnfg | jelly: I got my own user back to normal and am on the mate desktop. Lots easier to paste things, show output, etc. |
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| 14:11.47 | johnfg | jelly: No, and that must have been a carry-over. |
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| 14:12.50 | jelly | johnfg: does dpkg -S /etc/emacs23/site-start.d says it ought to exist and belong to some package? |
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| 14:14.32 | johnfg | jelly: If I wanted to remove any emacs files/directories, since nothing shows up in synaptic, how would I do that? |
| 14:14.48 | johnfg | jelly: I'll try that. |
| 14:15.00 | jelly | johnfg: purge all the emacs-related packages, if possible |
| 14:15.23 | johnfg | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/emacs23/site-start.d |
| 14:16.08 | jelly | johnfg: interesting. If you have apt-file installed, you can run "apt-file update" and then search which package it should belong to |
| 14:16.52 | johnfg | jelly: Should i just do then, dpkg --purge emacs*? |
| 14:16.57 | jelly | johnfg: alternatively use "/msg judd file /etc/emacs23/site-start.d" or look up that path on packages.debain.org |
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| 14:17.11 | jelly | johnfg: dpkg won't take * there, use actual package names |
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| 14:18.26 | johnfg | <judd> No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
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| 14:19.43 | jelly | judd: file /etc/emacs23/site-start.d --release wheezy |
| 14:19.46 | judd | No packages in wheezy/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 14:20.17 | jelly | johnfg: is there an /etc/emacs23 at all? |
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| 14:21.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 14:21.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am having issues with the key on jessie security updates.. |
| 14:22.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/main/source/Sources Hash Sum mismatch |
| 14:22.04 | johnfg | jelly: only in /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs23* |
| 14:22.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | why are the keys missmatched? |
| 14:22.44 | jelly | johnfg: oh well. Go purge all the emacs23 packages, for a start |
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| 14:23.29 | johnfg | jelly: Since dpkg doesn't take *, how would I do that? just delete them? |
| 14:23.47 | jelly | johnfg: delete what? |
| 14:24.08 | johnfg | jelly: purge then, the emacs23 pkgs... |
| 14:24.31 | jelly | johnfg: dpkg --purge packagename1 packagename2 ... |
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| 14:25.24 | verwilst | anyone knows how to install build-dependencies automatically when using pdebuild/cowbuilder? |
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| 14:25.43 | johnfg | jelly: Ok, I got I need a pkg name, but since this is obviously a foul-up, what pkg name would I use? |
| 14:25.45 | jelly | Eryn_1983_FL: I'd assume it wasn't security.d.o repo that was broken but something broke during the download. |
| 14:25.51 | johnfg | like site-start.d? |
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| 14:26.03 | jelly | johnfg: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |grep emacs23 |
| 14:26.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | could be |
| 14:26.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | it went through ok again, |
| 14:26.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | but it keeps throwing errors to puppet and i keep getting paged.. |
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| 14:27.21 | DeepSky | Hi everyone. I want to convert a video into a GIF... Some tutorials say that I have to install FFmpeg to extract somes frames of the video before converting it. But FFmpeg is in the non-free repository (why ? FFmpeg is not a free software ?) and I only use free software repository... Do you have any idea how to convert a video into a GIF without using non-free software ? Thanks !! |
| 14:27.35 | jelly | ,v ffmpeg |
| 14:27.36 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; jessie-backports: 7:2.8.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:2.8.4-1+b1; sid: 7:2.8.4-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.5-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.8.4-dmo2 |
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| 14:28.04 | jelly | DeepSky: it's not in non-free. Available in jessie-backports if you're not happy with avconv. |
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| 14:28.17 | temp | How can I automatically unlock an encrypted HDD at boot (via a passphrase)? I've encrypted it already but I don't know how to include the necessary hook to generate initramfs. |
| 14:28.31 | jelly | dpkg, tell DeepSky about jessie-backports |
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| 14:29.20 | DeepSky | Thanks Jelly, I'm still a newbie in the world of GNU/Linux :) |
| 14:29.33 | jelly | temp: assuming LUKS/cryptsetup, if you have a proper /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab in place and cryptsetup package installed, it ought to work |
| 14:30.18 | temp | I've done that. I've also posted a detailed post on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3zpx10/how_can_i_automatically_unlock_via_a_passphrase/ |
| 14:30.21 | johnfg | jelly: nothing from that last cmd. |
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| 14:31.01 | johnfg | I did find this with dpkg-query -l: iF emacsen-common 2.0.8 |
| 14:31.02 | jelly | johnfg: interesting, but you have files under /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs23* ? |
| 14:31.25 | johnfg | I tried to purge that pkg, but there's a dependency issue. |
| 14:31.50 | johnfg | is there a way to purge and have it remove the dependencies too? Or do i have to purge them first? |
| 14:32.05 | jelly | you can do them in the same command line. |
| 14:32.37 | jelly | (normally you'd use apt or aptitude for that, but it's probably still too confused) |
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| 14:34.43 | johnfg | jelly: here's all I've got: http://paste.debian.net/361191/ |
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| 14:35.50 | jelly | johnfg: show the output of dpkg -l emacs23-bin-common emacs23-common emacs23-nox |
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| 14:36.34 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/361194/ |
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| 14:37.12 | jelly | that does not make a lot of sense |
| 14:37.39 | DoctorD90 | uhm....god morning guys....little issue.....how I may reset "accels" ? |
| 14:37.42 | johnfg | jelly: Agreed. when I try to purge it, it says it's not installed. |
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| 14:38.49 | DoctorD90 | i mean....i was playing with "del" function to delete (send to trash with qeustion) files, and i have enabled "allow-edit-accels" in dconf...now i would like to reset all to default :D (without reformatting all again xD) |
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| 14:40.12 | johnfg | jelly: Is there a way to purge dpkg itself? Seems like it's kinda discouraged to run `apt-get clean` or such. |
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| 14:41.14 | jelly | johnfg: it seems you already accomplished that, sort of, what with dpkg database not matching /var/lib/dpkg/info/ contents |
| 14:43.01 | jelly | johnfg: well, the immediate goal is to make packages, including "emacsen-common", pass the postinst ("dpkg --configure ...") step. |
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| 14:43.56 | jelly | johnfg: since "dpkg --configure emacsen-common" manages to think SOME parts of emacs23 are installed, it would be best to figure out why it thinks so |
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| 14:45.56 | jelly | johnfg: rm /var/lib/emacsen-common/state/flavor/installed/emacs23 and try to "dpkg --configure emacsen-common" again |
| 14:47.17 | johnfg | jelly: doing now... |
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| 14:48.39 | jelly | that in turn ought to help dictionaries-common |
| 14:48.42 | johnfg | jelly: Ok, the last cmd succeeded, dpkg --configure emacsen-common. i.e., no output either way, good or bad. |
| 14:49.02 | jelly | johnfg: so do a tentative "dpkg --configure -a" again |
| 14:49.02 | johnfg | jelly: Not quite true: Setting up emacsen-common (2.0.8) ... |
| 14:49.13 | jelly | that's normal output. |
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| 14:51.01 | johnfg | you want all the output of that last cmd, or just to know if the problem with emacsen is gone? |
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| 14:53.44 | johnfg | jelly: I think *you* just made it possible for great progress! |
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| 14:54.30 | johnfg | I did a lone dpkg --configure -a of dictionaries-common, then ran dpkg --configure -a, and all completed without errors. |
| 14:54.48 | johnfg | What's next? |
| 14:55.03 | jelly | you probably want to reinstall all the packages you skipped reinstalling |
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| 14:56.05 | johnfg | jelly: unfortunately i didn't keep track. is what *did* get reinstalled in an apt-get log, or some log somewhere? |
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| 14:56.56 | jelly | before that, and after a successful "dpkg --configure -a", do a "apt-get -f install" to see if apt can put itself in a consistent state now |
| 14:57.00 | heap_ | any idea whats the irc server for the debian-arm? |
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| 14:57.20 | jelly | heap_: irc.oftc.net (also called irc.debian.org) |
| 14:57.30 | heap_ | thx |
| 14:57.56 | jelly | johnfg: well you have a file with all the package names don't you |
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| 14:58.28 | johnfg | I suppose i could run the same cmd, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' >, and redirect it to a new filename, and vimdiff it with the other file. |
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| 14:58.37 | jelly | but yes, both apt and dpkg keep logs under /var/log/ |
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| 14:59.39 | johnfg | Are you thinking that the error, e.g., E; Couldn't configure perl-base:i386, probably a dependency cycle, will go, or has gone away? |
| 14:59.54 | jelly | it should not happen |
| 15:00.40 | johnfg | jelly: So, for that one, how would you do it, as a reinstall? apt-get reinstall perl-base? |
| 15:00.57 | jelly | johnfg: you reinstalled those manually, no need to do it again. |
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| 15:01.43 | jelly | and you'd used "apt-get -y --reinstall install ..." before |
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| 15:03.34 | jelly | johnfg: for what it's worth: "xargs" reads words from stdin (a pipe) and appends them to the command line. So "echo foo bar baz | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install" actually runs "apt-get -y --reinstall install foo bar baz" |
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| 15:04.24 | johnfg | jelly: Ok, gotcha. And thanks for the ongoing help. |
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| 15:06.04 | johnfg | jelly: Ok, one annoying thing is still happening: Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ... fopen: Permission denied |
| 15:06.16 | johnfg | should i reinstall man-db? |
| 15:06.26 | johnfg | is that the source of this problem? |
| 15:07.22 | johnfg | Should I choose the setuid man? |
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| 15:07.31 | jelly | doesn't matter |
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| 15:09.34 | jelly | johnfg: does your "ls -ld /var/lib/man-db" look like: drwxr-sr-x 55 man root 4096 Jan 6 11:42 /var/cache/man |
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| 15:09.49 | jelly | johnfg: oops. ls -ld /var/cache/man |
| 15:09.55 | johnfg | I'm still getting the fopen error. |
| 15:10.24 | johnfg | yes, it does. |
| 15:10.43 | jelly | with correct dir. owner and setgid |
| 15:11.03 | johnfg | yup |
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| 15:11.17 | johnfg | drwxr-sr-x 36 man root 4096 Jan 6 08:09 /var/cache/man |
| 15:11.49 | jelly | johnfg: if you have a short command to reproduce the man-db issue, you can run it under strace -f -eopen -o/tmp/strace.output ... |
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| 15:12.39 | jelly | johnfg: or better, "strace -f -eopen,execve -o/tmp/strace.output ... " and then pastebin /tmp/strace.output |
| 15:14.02 | jelly | that ought to show which open() fails |
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| 15:17.35 | johnfg | jelly: too much output, paste.debian.net won't take it. |
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| 15:22.05 | jelly | johnfg: then remove -o/tmp/strace.output, and try to figure out which open() fails before the "fopen: Permission denied" message |
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| 15:24.36 | moka | Hi, I'm getting an error when I try to run "aptitude update". The error is "Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_source_Sources.IndexDiff - open (2: No such file or directory)". Here you can find more info http://pastebin.com/iGQAUYqf . Any ideas? |
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| 15:25.49 | markybob_ | moka, sid support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:26.24 | sipi | Hi, I am trying to configure user permission and I would like to same group users rwx on home dir of each other, but not home/documents, is there any lock ascending directories? |
| 15:26.24 | moka | markybob_, ops sorry |
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| 15:28.44 | z00 | Hi world :) Anyone here is using Datafari ? |
| 15:29.16 | bazhang | ,v datafari |
| 15:29.17 | judd | No package named 'datafari' was found in amd64. |
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| 15:29.24 | z00 | lol |
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| 15:29.35 | bazhang | what is it |
| 15:29.42 | z00 | not looking for bots :) just help |
| 15:29.53 | z00 | big data indexing and searching |
| 15:30.11 | bazhang | outside the debian repos then |
| 15:30.43 | z00 | y, but looking for debian users (they provide a deb package) |
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| 15:34.29 | FlashSlayer | Hi. I need your help. fsck found inconsistency in /dev/sda6 and can't fix it automatically. I'll tell you what I've done. |
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| 15:35.47 | Walex | FlashSlayer: in practice if you are not an expert what you can do is to rerun 'fsck' with '-f -y' option |
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| 15:36.30 | karlpinc | sipi: You probably want the "user private group" idiom. Debian has gone back and forth on enabling this by default. You need users to have their umask set to 002 instead of 022 (/etc/profile or some such) and then use the setgid bit. There's a page on the debian wiki, but the redhat docs have a nice writeup. Google it. |
| 15:36.47 | FlashSlayer | Walex: without arguments it says "hello" (fsck [version] [something more]) and closes |
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| 15:37.16 | karlpinc | FlashSlayer: Be sure to have the partition unmounted. |
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| 15:37.47 | jnix | howdy, are there any projects similar to pulp for debian packages? |
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| 15:38.42 | karlpinc | !tell sipi about upg |
| 15:38.51 | johnfg | jelly: Try this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6620734f99819041f1b7 |
| 15:38.59 | FlashSlayer | Walex: I typed in console: dd if=./android-x86.iso of=/dev/sdc (it's my pendrive), then I closed or hibernated the system, runned from pendrive, installed Android on /dev/sda7 (I'm sure it was Android partition) without GRUB changes (but who knows what installer did), runned it, closed Android, runned Debian... and it could not start |
| 15:39.08 | johnfg | jelly: That's the whole thing. |
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| 15:40.09 | karlpinc | FlashSlayer: "could not start" is vague. Exactly what was the message? |
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| 15:40.50 | FlashSlayer | karlpinc: fsck found inconsistency and should be run manually |
| 15:40.54 | FlashSlayer | without arguments |
| 15:41.01 | FlashSlayer | but without arguments it does nothing |
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| 15:41.06 | FlashSlayer | even many commands do not work like "reboot" |
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| 15:41.20 | karlpinc | FlashSlayer: Do you need to access that partition in debian? |
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| 15:41.43 | FlashSlayer | karlpinc: it's Debian partition I think |
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| 15:42.09 | FlashSlayer | but... after resuming from hibernation Debian worked but filesystem was read only |
| 15:42.31 | FlashSlayer | so I couldn't start Iceweasel or other apps |
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| 15:42.48 | karlpinc | FlashSlayer: All filesystems were ro or only sda6? |
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| 15:43.47 | karlpinc | FlashSlayer: This is jessie? |
| 15:43.48 | FlashSlayer | karlpinc: I haven't checked it but "/" was probably read-only |
| 15:43.52 | FlashSlayer | yeah |
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| 15:44.13 | karlpinc | Maybe you're not running the debian kernel. What does uname -a say? |
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| 15:53.12 | abducidousb2 | hi I want to know |
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| 15:53.20 | abducidousb2 | what is the file system for exfat in fdisk |
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| 15:57.46 | ikus060 | I'm using LibreOffice alot, but latelly, I experiance many issue with it: crahsing when deleting table rows, selected text is not highlight, random text drawn at the wrong place. Does anybody experience similar issue. Any way to fix it ? |
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| 15:58.14 | markybob_ | abducidousb2, sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils sudo mkdir /media/exfat sudo mount -t exfat /dev/sdxx /media/exfat |
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| 15:59.04 | abducidousb2 | hi markybob_ |
| 15:59.04 | MrHyde | ll |
| 15:59.13 | MrHyde | oops ... |
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| 16:00.38 | karlpinc | ikus060: Stock Debian? No other repos? You might want to look for ram problems. Run memtest86+. |
| 16:00.44 | abducidousb2 | markybob_: is that for creating a partition using the type exfat or to mount a exfat partition already alive |
| 16:01.22 | markybob_ | abducidousb2, existing |
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| 16:03.05 | ikus060 | karlpinc: yep, I'm using debian jessie. I do have some custom repo: google chrome, virtualbox, dropbox, debian-multimedia. I will run a memtest. it's a good suggestion. |
| 16:03.07 | johnfg | jelly: did you get a chance to look at that long paste? (or anyone else?) |
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| 16:03.50 | abducidousb2 | markybob_: wow thanks |
| 16:04.58 | johnfg | karlpinc: Any thoughts on the fopen: Permission denied, error? |
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| 16:06.00 | karlpinc | johnfg: Lemme look. I was hoping wiser heads had made your problems go away. |
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| 16:06.57 | ChrisH | johnfg: lines 8524 and 6941 open("/root/.manpath", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) open("/var/cache/man/fr.UTF-8/13230", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0666) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
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| 16:07.52 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 16:08.05 | tite12345 | I added my Openmailbox account into KMail but I don't see it. |
| 16:08.10 | tite12345 | I was even prompted success. |
| 16:08.11 | tite12345 | :-/ |
| 16:09.51 | johnfg | karlpinc: Any heads wiser than mine, it seems :-) |
| 16:10.17 | johnfg | ChrisH: What should the permission be on that? |
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| 16:12.51 | ChrisH | johnfg: what is the permission? I do not have these files |
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| 16:13.40 | karlpinc | johnfg: For the dirs in /var/cache/man/ drwxr-sr-x, for the files probably -rw-r--r-. Theory says that because it's in /var/cache/ you could probably get rid of everything and let it re-create. But not every program follows this. |
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| 16:15.10 | karlpinc | johnfg: In my experience you can usually get rid of files, but sometimes the directory structure is not automatically re-created. |
| 16:15.19 | johnfg | karlpinc: Ok, to set the dirs to what you said, I get the 7 - and 5. how do I set the R in the middle with the S? |
| 16:15.19 | karlpinc | johnfg: YMMV |
| 16:15.53 | johnfg | karlpinc: Already found that out, the hard way :-) |
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| 16:16.12 | karlpinc | johnfg: That's the setgid bit. I always use the memonic, chmod g+s ... I forget the bit. |
| 16:16.17 | johnfg | I don't usually manually set the setuid. |
| 16:16.29 | johnfg | karlpinc: ok |
| 16:16.43 | ChrisH | drwxr-sr-x -> should be 2755 |
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| 16:17.16 | jnix | are there any ITIL type package lifecycle projects for debian systems? |
| 16:17.35 | jnix | i.e. pulp |
| 16:17.46 | johnfg | ChrisH: karlpinc thanks! |
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| 16:20.26 | karlpinc | jnix: Dunno. The Internet says there's "Intellectual Property" involved. You could try the <search> factoid. I find debtags to be helpful. |
| 16:20.32 | karlpinc | !tell jnix about search |
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| 16:21.46 | haole | I have a script to allow an internal LAN on eth1 to use the internet connection available at eth0: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8855981 --> it used to work, but I had to upgrade my box to Sid and it doesn't work anymore (not sure it's related)... any ideas? |
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| 16:22.54 | jelly | johnfg: yeah, but nothing obvious |
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| 16:24.36 | johnfg | Should I do anything after changing those permissions? I tried another reinstall, but got the same fopen error. |
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| 16:25.50 | ChrisH | johnfg: run the strace again and serach for EACCES |
| 16:26.03 | johnfg | karlpinc: You thought *maybe* delete all files/directories under /var/cache? |
| 16:26.06 | johnfg | ChrisH: Ok. |
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| 16:27.55 | karlpinc | johnfg: No. |
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| 16:28.17 | karlpinc | johnfg: I was thinking of just what's in the man section to address your immediate problem. |
| 16:28.28 | johnfg | karlpinc: k, got it |
| 16:28.41 | johnfg | maybe try reinstalling man-db? |
| 16:28.43 | karlpinc | johnfg: Or maybe just a part of that, like all the files. |
| 16:28.50 | karlpinc | johnfg: Yah. |
| 16:29.14 | karlpinc | johnfg: man sounds like a safe thing to purge and re-install. |
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| 16:29.38 | cluelessperson | I have a server stuck on debian 6, that I cannot upgrade in place. |
| 16:29.52 | cluelessperson | how can I upgrade one or two packages? like RSYNC to current versions? |
| 16:30.03 | cluelessperson | so I can back it up? |
| 16:30.12 | karlpinc | !tell cluelessperson about ssb |
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| 16:30.22 | karlpinc | cluelessperson: You may also find something in backports. Possibly. |
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| 16:30.28 | karlpinc | !tell cluelessperson about backports |
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| 16:31.17 | karlpinc | cluelessperson: I would expect to find rsync inter-operable. |
| 16:31.43 | johnfg | Here's something I don't even have: 15484 open("/root/.manpath", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
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| 16:32.13 | johnfg | and no .manpath anywhere, at least with `locate .manpath`. |
| 16:32.18 | karlpinc | johnfg: May not be a problem, is it? Are you running as root? |
| 16:32.29 | ChrisH | johnfg: are you running as root? pastbin ls -ld / /root /var /var/cache please |
| 16:32.41 | cluelessperson | karlpinc, ah it is, the problem was permissions |
| 16:32.45 | johnfg | karlpinc: Yes. You mean not sudoing? |
| 16:32.49 | cluelessperson | now I need to create timed backups |
| 16:33.11 | karlpinc | johnfg: Sudo or not. (Although there are suble differences.) |
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| 16:33.47 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/361324/ |
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| 16:34.14 | johnfg | karlpinc: You can't run the apt-get/aptitude/dpkg any other way can you? |
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| 16:34.51 | solindyr | ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 16:36.18 | johnfg | karlpinc: do you think, remove /var/cache/man, or just what's underneath that? |
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| 16:38.34 | ChrisH | johnfg: I would not remove but rename it. Whatabout the strace/grep? |
| 16:39.06 | johnfg | Yeah! removing what was under /var/cache/man/ did the trick? |
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| 16:39.32 | johnfg | ChrisH: Besides the /root/.manpath, the only other thing it showed for EACCES was the same file. |
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| 16:40.00 | johnfg | I'm reinstalling whatever was missed before. Just up to bash-completion. |
| 16:40.17 | johnfg | Again, much, much thanks guys. Wouldn't have been able to do this myself. |
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| 16:41.18 | ChrisH | johnfg: just to be sure, check dmesg for some unexpected lines... juist to prevent any filesystem issue or faulty HW |
| 16:41.34 | johnfg | ChrisH: will do. |
| 16:42.14 | johnfg | [ 3852.003136] perf interrupt took too long (2508 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 |
| 16:42.16 | Tom01 | How do I scroll one Page with the Scrollbars? (Gnome) |
| 16:42.39 | johnfg | That's the last line, and I'm not sure how recent that is. I think I'll be okay (at least to this point). |
| 16:42.42 | ChrisH | johnfg: does not matter |
| 16:43.02 | ChrisH | johnfg: re-run using dmesg -T will show the timestamps |
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| 16:44.55 | johnfg | ChrisH: Nothing today at all :-) |
| 16:46.18 | johnfg | Here's a question for speeding things up for this project: Is there a way to extract the diff lines between two files and pipe the lines to xargs? |
| 16:46.35 | anabain | when sharing files via nfsv3, what can be done to avoid client hanging when the server is shut down? Is there any chance for the server to tell the client to unmount the share before it gets shut down, which would avoid the hanging? |
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| 16:48.04 | johnfg | right now, I'm just doing a vimdiff file1 file2, and running the reinstall on the pkgs in file2 not in file1. |
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| 16:50.17 | ChrisH | anabain: short: no. You could mount it soft... but that is not what you really want to do. Autofs might work. Why does one shutdown the NFS Server? |
| 16:50.18 | karlpinc | johnfg: Something (untested) like: diff -u file1 file2 | egrep '^\+' | cut -d ' ' -f 2- |
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| 16:51.10 | johnfg | karlpinc: without it getting piped, that should at least show me something, right? |
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| 16:51.18 | karlpinc | johnfg: Yea. |
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| 16:53.02 | johnfg | karlpinc: I think that will work, except for the +. |
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| 16:54.04 | johnfg | karlpinc: nevermind, I got it. |
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| 16:55.47 | WangDang_ | I'm connectted to a box via serial console when all of a sudden I can't see anything on the console anymore. It's just black. Anyone ever seen that when using a serial to usb adapter ? |
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| 16:56.27 | anabain | ChrisH, I forgot to say that I'm using automounter and I've had this hanging problem. The NFS "server" is shut down because it's not really a server. I'm just sharing files among my home boxes. Then, there's no command/script that can be used by the server immediately before shutting down in order to perform the unmount, right? |
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| 16:57.59 | karlpinc | WangDang_: Always start with the basics. Is it still plugged in? |
| 16:58.10 | ChrisH | anabain: if you mount in readonly you can move to a soft mount. And the server does not really know about which clients did mount what FS |
| 16:58.15 | johnfg | What would you folks suggest after i get those last 40+ pkgs reinstalled? |
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| 16:58.30 | johnfg | Just do an apt-get update, then upgrade? |
| 16:58.32 | okee | can someone tell me where the Debian page is that has all backport software listed categorically? I am on Debian's site, and the only thing I see is links to each version of the OS, with subcategories underneath it? Or did Debian change the format? |
| 16:58.51 | karlpinc | johnfg: I'd look over the upgrade guide. |
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| 16:59.31 | bongleger | okee: are you looking for this? <http://backports.debian.org/> |
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| 17:03.41 | WangDang_ | karlpinc: yes, it's plugged in. I've checked all the connections. Nothing has come loose |
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| 17:04.09 | jokoon | Is there a package for Xrandr lXinerama lXi and lXcursor |
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| 17:04.12 | karlpinc | WangDang_: Can you ssh in and check dmesg etc? |
| 17:04.31 | karlpinc | WangDang_: Might do the same on the box with the usb port. |
| 17:04.50 | karlpinc | !tell jokoon about apt-file |
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| 17:05.11 | karlpinc | jokoon: or use packages.debian.org. |
| 17:05.22 | WangDang_ | karlpinc: no unfortunately. The box won't boot far enough to ssh in. I was at an emergency prompt when the console went blank |
| 17:05.23 | johnfg | karlpinc: To see maybe what i missed? |
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| 17:06.14 | karlpinc | WangDang_: Er... Maybe the box is dead? |
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| 17:06.49 | karlpinc | johnfg: Well, I'm not sure why you're asking the question. I thought maybe you thought the upgrade did not fully complete. |
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| 17:08.06 | karlpinc | johnfg: (Always worth cleaning out the cruft left over after the upgrade anyway.) |
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| 17:12.59 | cluelessperson | Question |
| 17:13.13 | cluelessperson | Why would a server jump to another ip address, despite it's static ip? |
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| 17:14.45 | morf | i don't think servers can jump |
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| 17:15.13 | abrotman | some daemon is running, and requesting an IP |
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| 17:26.32 | johnfg | I'm still logged in on the mate desktop. |
| 17:26.49 | johnfg | I wanted to check logins, and it's not good. |
| 17:27.01 | johnfg | I go to tty1, and no one can login. |
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| 17:27.37 | johnfg | At present, users are in both /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, as well as in openldap. |
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| 17:29.11 | karlpinc | johnfg: Look in the relevant logs. |
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| 17:31.12 | esaym153 | I've got a new work laptop that is completely locked down and has a crappy screen and keyboard. I am wondering what is the best remote desktop service that I can install on it so I can connect from my linux box? |
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| 17:31.48 | esaym153 | I am looking at the 'nomachine nx' stuff, dunno if it is any good |
| 17:31.56 | johnfg | karlpinc: Yeah, I just did. I've got to enter passwd twice! What's that all about? |
| 17:32.09 | esaym153 | I know normal vnc stuff is old, seems like something better and quicker should be out there these days |
| 17:32.31 | johnfg | karlpinc: For root too! |
| 17:32.32 | karlpinc | johnfg: That's pam. Probably because you've the credentials in multiple places. |
| 17:32.36 | johnfg | Never had that before. |
| 17:33.04 | johnfg | karlpinc: ok |
| 17:33.39 | karlpinc | esaym153: Old does not mean broken. |
| 17:33.43 | johnfg | karlpinc: i'm gonna reboot, then leave for other office if all is okay. Thanks once again, and to the rest for all the help. |
| 17:34.02 | johnfg | I really appreciate it. I'd buy you all sodas if I could :-) |
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| 17:34.11 | johnfg | Or coffee or tea... |
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| 17:34.26 | johnfg | or sparkling water...you get the idea. |
| 17:35.05 | karlpinc | longs for the days when he was able to sparkle. |
| 17:35.59 | johnfg | One additional question...I used to have my 'ls' cmds give a nice color output. But since the upgrade to jessie, and what i did with /home, it's just plain white. |
| 17:36.12 | johnfg | Where is that coming, or not coming from? |
| 17:36.26 | johnfg | Every other distro I run has a nice color listing. |
| 17:36.39 | karlpinc | johnfg: Stuff in your home dir copied from /etc/skel/ |
| 17:37.37 | johnfg | karlpinc: nothing's in /etc/skel |
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| 17:37.53 | johnfg | karlpinc: something perhaps to reinstall? |
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| 17:38.10 | karlpinc | johnfg: Ah. So you think! But really you need to use ls -a to see it! |
| 17:38.45 | Shadow_7 | johnfg: probably lost an alias |
| 17:38.53 | karlpinc | johnfg: Which probably means that you did something to your home dir to remove stuff beginning with '.' |
| 17:39.05 | Shadow_7 | johnfg: you can force colors with --color=auto |
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| 17:39.56 | Shadow_7 | johnfg: otherwise $LS_COLOR defines the color and pulls that data from dircolors |
| 17:40.57 | johnfg | Ok, looking much better. |
| 17:41.05 | johnfg | I'll reboot now, and thanks! |
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| 17:48.15 | ll_ | hey guys, this problem occurs on all of my machines with this hdd: I have a usb 3.0 enclosure (with external power supply 3,5 inch) if i reboot the computer waits at boot, and does not recognize the usb drive. only if i switch the enclosure of (cut the power) it will be recognized. shutdown pc/pi repower encloure work. just reboot does not. Any idea ? |
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| 17:48.44 | eclipsespark | hi, is it the right place for questions about live-build and overlayfs/aufs? |
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| 17:56.01 | ll_ | dmesg and lsusb from my problem http://pastebin.com/5eg1r1an |
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| 18:01.02 | hiya | Why does debian install as server? why does it keep Port 25, 22, 111, 631 open for all? even on a laptop? |
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| 18:03.05 | Shadow_7 | hiya: if there's nothing listening on those you don't technically need to block them |
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| 18:05.45 | sipi | Does anyone please have reference how to work with configure sudoers if I want to grant user permission to restart webserver? but not stop? |
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| 18:05.57 | karlpinc | eclipsespark: Ask and find out. |
| 18:06.57 | karlpinc | hycer: Because programs were installed which listen on those ports. If you want to have more control do a minimal install and then use apt to install just what you want after the initial install. |
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| 18:08.07 | desci | I was going to echo -n "R.I.P." when I suddenly saw the topic |
| 18:08.13 | desci | I have an aptitude question |
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| 18:08.35 | desci | I have a jessie fresh install and added the sid lines in the sources.list |
| 18:08.36 | testpil0t | desci, dont ask to ask. just ask. |
| 18:08.38 | karlpinc | ll_: Look at dmesg output and the boot logs. |
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| 18:09.00 | desci | I never did apt-get upgrade, i just apt-get update and install packages |
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| 18:09.23 | desci | therefore, i haven't changed stuff like libc afaik |
| 18:09.48 | desci | if i remove the sid lines, the system downgrades to stable? |
| 18:10.02 | karlpinc | desci: Hard to say. Installing pulls in dependences. |
| 18:10.07 | karlpinc | !downgrade |
| 18:10.08 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 18:11.03 | karlpinc | desci: If you did a minimal number of changes you might be able to. But it's probably faster to re-install, surely less error prone. You should be able to keep your home directory. Backup /etc/ if you've made changes there. |
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| 18:11.15 | hiya | Shadow_7, but 0.0.0.0:111 is global, what is rpcbind what does it do? I don't know what to do about it, why is it open by default? |
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| 18:12.17 | desci | i'll report here my achievements |
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| 18:13.05 | testpil0t | hiya, rpcbind is part of the nfs server |
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| 18:13.11 | jhutchins | hiya: The Linux networking model is not equivalent to the Windows model. Only ports with processes listening on them are actually capable of receiving data, and often they are configured to listen to only the local host. |
| 18:13.42 | jhutchins | hiya: rpcbind also used to map other services besides nfs, not sure what remains linked to it. |
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| 18:14.29 | desci | upgrade from synaptic is removing a lot of task- packages |
| 18:14.35 | hiya | jhutchins, why is it 0.0.0.0:111 then? it means global right? |
| 18:14.58 | karlpinc | desci: Keeping your /home is supported if /home is a separate partition. Otherwise, keep a backup. |
| 18:15.02 | jhutchins | hiya: Local mail servers are often installed to make it easier for inter-process communication and user alerts, as well as exchanging mail with other hosts. |
| 18:15.09 | jhutchins | hiya: Corrrect. |
| 18:15.21 | eclipsespark | karlpinc, ok, i'm using live-build to make a debian image with a custom kernel, but neither vanilla kernels nor the latest 4.2 debian kernel provide the aufs module, and in the latest 4.2 debian kernel it seems almost impossible to patch aufs, is there any way to use overlayfs in live-buiòd on a debian-stable tree? or is there any way to correctly patch aufs on the latest 4.2 debian krnel? |
| 18:15.39 | karlpinc | hiya: But, just because it's listening on all interfaces does not mean the daemon is going to respond on all interfaces. |
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| 18:16.19 | ll_ | karlpinc device not accepting address 7, error -110 |
| 18:16.34 | ll_ | usb 1-1-port3: unable to enumerate USB device |
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| 18:17.23 | ll_ | thats how raspberry pi tells you that there is not enough power. but it also hapens on pcs and the encolsure has its own powersupply |
| 18:17.42 | karlpinc | eclipsespark: I suspect the answer is "yes", but I'm not the one to ask. |
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| 18:19.21 | jhutchins | eclipsespark: aufs was rejected for merger with the Linux kernel due to poor code quality; OverlayFS has been chosen instead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverlayFS |
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| 18:20.10 | karlpinc | ll_: Is the external device powered on before you power on the debian box? Maybe it's not all the way booted. |
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| 18:20.36 | ll_ | it seems to be something like that |
| 18:20.50 | ll_ | i think its a hardware problem with the enclosure |
| 18:20.59 | ll_ | asmedia chipset |
| 18:21.12 | karlpinc | Any way to tell how much data's flowing through a usb port? |
| 18:21.27 | deb88 | hello, I am trying to install debian on a new laptop with a skylake cpu. I can use a live installation, but cannot install while leaving the uefi intact. Any advice? |
| 18:21.49 | jhutchins | eclipsespark: According to the aufs project page, aufs4 is supported and fully tested for the 4.x kernels. http://aufs.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 18:23.46 | karlpinc | deb88: How do you know you have a problem? Why not install using the netinstall installer? (Possibly the unoffical one with non-free firmware added.) |
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| 18:26.24 | Imadthemad | hello |
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| 18:27.12 | eclipsespark | jhutchins, yes i've already patched it on vanilla kernels, but now i've downloaded the latest debian 4.2.6 kernel and the latest aufs4 for linux 4.2, but many patches seem to e already applied, the module is not present and if i try to patch it anyway, the module appears in the configs but the kernel is unable to compile. how can i use live-build to use overlayfs instead of aufs? |
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| 18:27.14 | deb88 | I tried to install grub to a usb stick a few times, but cannot boot off that. From what I understand the live installs do not allow installation to a uefi system. The few sources I found on installing to a uefi hard drive have not worked thus far. |
| 18:27.41 | Imadthemad | hello |
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| 18:28.05 | eclipsespark | jhutchins, cause the live-build documentations says nothing about this option, and all the iso images i've built are unable to boot if aufs is not present, and i absolutely need linux 4.2 for this iso |
| 18:28.12 | Imadthemad | i'm looking for kalilinux official channel |
| 18:28.34 | stew | Imadthemad: scratch this one off your list :) |
| 18:28.39 | eclipsespark | Imadthemad, hi, the kali channel is #kali-linux |
| 18:29.27 | jhutchins | eclipsespark: Sorry, I don't have any more Debian or live-build specific information. I have worked with out-of-tree modules in the past but not recently or with current Debian configurations. |
| 18:30.03 | jhutchins | eclipsespark: Does the module actually have to be in the kernel? |
| 18:30.15 | Imadthemad | i thought it was kali-linux too but if i try to join in it says "no such channel" |
| 18:30.29 | jhutchins | !kali |
| 18:30.30 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 18:31.05 | karlpinc | deb88: Have you tried the offical installer? |
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| 18:31.22 | Imadthemad | now i am in, thanks!! |
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| 18:32.17 | eclipsespark | jhutchins, i can avoid the use of aufs that as you said is not so well written, but images created with live-build refuse to boot if aufs is not present in the kernel even if overlayfs is explicitly loaded |
| 18:33.04 | hiya | karlpinc, ok |
| 18:33.05 | hiya | karlpinc, should i disable rpcbind? I just disabled sshd |
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| 18:33.59 | deb88 | karlpinc, no, only a live install so far. Is that the DVD1 or CD1 iso? Since the hardware is quite new, am I best off with a testing distribution with 4.3 kernel? (The touchpad and wifi do not work with the live install.) |
| 18:34.31 | jhutchins | eclipsespark: I think I would look for discussions of aufs on the debian mailing lists. |
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| 18:37.08 | eclipsespark | jhutchins, ok i'll try, but probably i got how to compile the kernel with aufs, i'm literally rewriting aufs on top of the debian kernel, and i see that a lot of files are already patched, while others have different structures or line orders and need to be manually patched |
| 18:37.14 | eclipsespark | jhutchins, thanks anyway |
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| 18:38.24 | jhutchins | eclipsespark: Sounds like an interesting project, good luck. |
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| 18:38.50 | bleb | Instances of .xsession are piling up as I log in and out. To prevent this, I tried setting KillUserProcesses=1 in /etc/systemd/logind.conf but the problem persists. Anything else I might try? |
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| 18:43.36 | cluelessperson | Hi all, I'm thinking about doing this for backups from a backup server |
| 18:43.37 | cluelessperson | http://hastebin.com/vikeliceli.bash |
| 18:43.42 | cluelessperson | any ideas on doing it better? |
| 18:45.14 | deb88 | I'll try the DVD1.iso testing version and see if that allows installation to the uefi system. |
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| 18:50.12 | karlpinc | deb88: You'll save bandwidth if you use the recommended netinstall. Otherwise you download stuff you don't use. |
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| 18:51.31 | karlpinc | deb88: Testing breaks. You might be better off with stable and a backported kernel. But I can't recommend one way or the other. |
| 18:52.03 | jhutchins | There are still some major headaches in testing with the update of glibc. |
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| 18:53.52 | AlexPortable | I need to add something to /etc/sudoers, what would be the best? Replace the file or just add it with a script |
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| 18:54.40 | jhutchins | AlexPortable: visudo? |
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| 18:54.58 | jhutchins | AlexPortable: You can make a backup copy of the default file if you want. |
| 18:55.02 | socomm | Hmmm, I would not do script. |
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| 18:55.18 | socomm | Wait I misread. What are you trying to do? |
| 18:55.21 | AlexPortable | erm I mean |
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| 18:55.41 | socomm | You're trying to append a user or sudo stansa [sp?] to /etc/sudoers? |
| 18:55.47 | AlexPortable | I have a system that I made some changes to, which includes adding some shortcut and user to /etc/sudoers and some other files, now I'm making an install script that will do these things for me automatically |
| 18:56.03 | AlexPortable | so I install debian and run the script and done |
| 18:56.26 | deb88 | karlpinc, I'll try the netinstall with a testing version and see if it provides installation to uefi and intel 7265 wifi drivers that work. Thx |
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| 18:59.04 | socomm | AlexPortable: Is that a question? |
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| 19:00.20 | desci | apt-get update|upgrade|autoremove was sucessful |
| 19:00.52 | desci | I installed tasksel again because it was removed |
| 19:01.16 | desci | i'll see if it survives a reboot now |
| 19:01.40 | AlexPortable | socomm: " Wait I misread. What are you trying to do?" |
| 19:01.44 | AlexPortable | socomm: it's an explaination |
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| 19:03.23 | socomm | Either should work, the script solution would probably be more reusable. |
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| 19:09.15 | hiya | do you recommend a cloud storage for gratis? |
| 19:09.42 | AlexPortable | but should i replace the file or just add it to it? |
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| 19:31.01 | milhouse_ | hi all :) |
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| 19:31.41 | milhouse_ | can someone help in a "simples" question that I couldnt find the answer anywhere else? |
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| 19:31.48 | milhouse_ | i'm trying to define a var in a rewriterule, to use it in proxypassreverse. |
| 19:31.57 | milhouse_ | i have this: |
| 19:31.58 | milhouse_ | RewriteRule . - [E=HTTP_FW:%{HTTP:X-Forward-To}] |
| 19:31.58 | milhouse_ | ProxyPassReverse %{ENV:HTTP_FW} interpolate |
| 19:31.58 | milhouse_ | (with ProxyPassInterpolateEnv on ) |
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| 19:32.56 | milhouse_ | the server seg faults. |
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| 19:33.06 | milhouse_ | anybody knows why, or have any hint please? :/ |
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| 19:35.20 | abrotman | milhouse_: you know there's a #httpd for Apache questions? |
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| 19:36.43 | milhouse_ | i know but i cant talk there. |
| 19:36.48 | milhouse_ | not registered |
| 19:37.04 | milhouse_ | so i figured 1 in 1753 people could know and be a kind person to let me know any hint |
| 19:37.11 | milhouse_ | :) |
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| 19:37.27 | markybob | milhouse_, why don't you register? |
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| 19:39.02 | desci | the system was downgraded to jessie properly |
| 19:39.17 | milhouse_ | well... i will have to right? |
| 19:39.24 | desci | however i am obsessed with perfection so i am installing it all over again |
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| 19:39.30 | ld | hello all |
| 19:39.36 | markybob | milhouse_, yes |
| 19:39.39 | ld | i have installed debian stable on my system |
| 19:39.43 | ld | and today i wake up to find |
| 19:39.56 | ld | that the default pdf viewer has been switched to vprerex |
| 19:40.08 | ld | why did this happen |
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| 19:41.53 | eclipsespark | jhutchins, hi i have another question, probably the last today: how can i generate udeb files with the modules of my custom kernel? |
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| 19:42.52 | desci | ld: i prefer pidgin/finch and claws over empathy and icedove as well, it's just an apt-get install away |
| 19:43.08 | desci | if you really want to know the reasons, you should check the release notes |
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| 19:43.27 | desci | i don't recall the full url from debian.org pointing to that |
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| 19:47.36 | SOUL_OF_R00T | anyone knows what libre office crash when i try save a document, any tip are appreciated! thanks |
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| 19:50.01 | tite12345 | Hi |
| 19:50.08 | tite12345 | Where should I extract downloaded KDM themes? |
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| 19:52.10 | JT|work | tite12345: probably /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ |
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| 19:52.30 | JT|work | protip: I did apt-cache listfiles kdm to guess this :) |
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| 19:53.52 | jokoon | How do I know if my touchpad synaptic/mouse is linear and not accelerated, it feels weird |
| 19:54.08 | jokoon | I also want to slow down the touchpad scrolling |
| 19:54.14 | jokoon | any guide ? |
| 19:54.30 | tite12345 | JT|work: I |
| 19:54.36 | tite12345 | JT|work: I'll look into it |
| 19:54.51 | tite12345 | JT|work: Thanks a lot man! |
| 19:55.51 | tite12345 | JT|work: How about screensaver? |
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| 19:58.01 | coreyman | How am I supposed to install php5-fpm alongside php7.0-fpm if php5-fpm requires php5-cli but conflicts with php7.0-cli on debian ? |
| 19:58.40 | morf | what a surprise |
| 19:59.16 | markybob | coreyman, why do you think you can have 7 and 5? |
| 19:59.37 | coreyman | because I can, and I should be able to have both versions of php |
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| 19:59.46 | nkuttler | ,v php7.0-cli |
| 19:59.47 | judd | Package: php7.0-cli on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.1-5 |
| 19:59.47 | markybob | coreyman, you're wrong. |
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| 20:00.23 | coreyman | markybob lol why is that |
| 20:00.29 | nkuttler | yeah, dunno, do they use the same paths? |
| 20:00.44 | nkuttler | other than that, as a sid user you should know how to report bugs or force package install.. |
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| 20:00.46 | markybob | coreyman, like nkuttler said. same paths. |
| 20:00.51 | nkuttler | ok, then no go |
| 20:01.03 | coreyman | they dont use the same paths |
| 20:01.10 | coreyman | that I know of. |
| 20:01.14 | markybob | they do |
| 20:01.41 | coreyman | So I cant have one bleeding edge application using php7.0 and some old software that I paid for on php5 because it isn't compatible with php7? |
| 20:01.46 | coreyman | It uses ioncube |
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| 20:01.58 | markybob | coreyman, correct |
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| 20:02.25 | coreyman | markybob so why are the people in ##php suggesting otherwise. |
| 20:02.39 | markybob | coreyman, i don't know. ask them. |
| 20:02.49 | coreyman | ok |
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| 20:07.52 | tite12345 | JT|work: Hi there |
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| 20:14.27 | JT|work | tite12345: no problem dude. I don't know about screensavers, haven't used them in years |
| 20:14.43 | JT|work | are people even making custom kde screensavers still? they're kind of rare to find I remember |
| 20:15.05 | tite12345 | JT|work: I don't know much I'm new to KDE :D |
| 20:15.05 | JT|work | because you have to make them specifically for KDE and xscreensaver kind of became the defacto screen saver system to use |
| 20:15.11 | tite12345 | Ah |
| 20:15.24 | JT|work | ahh well welcome, you picked the correct desktop environment :) |
| 20:15.34 | tite12345 | Hey there's this plymouth I want to install http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/SteampunK+Plymouth+Theme?content=146030 |
| 20:15.41 | tite12345 | JT|work: Haha thanks! |
| 20:16.13 | tite12345 | I'll try doing this myself. |
| 20:16.21 | JT|work | hah that's kind of cool |
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| 20:16.30 | JT|work | doesn't kde have a theme installer in system settings? |
| 20:16.55 | JT|work | check that first. K menu, system settings, login manager at the bottom |
| 20:17.07 | tite12345 | Haha |
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| 20:18.05 | tite12345 | What tool can I use to empty a flash drive? |
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| 20:18.10 | tite12345 | dd? |
| 20:18.22 | coreyman | Yes dd. |
| 20:18.33 | coreyman | dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/yourflashdrive |
| 20:18.36 | tite12345 | Ah |
| 20:18.43 | tite12345 | coreyman: Thanks a lot! |
| 20:19.07 | coreyman | might need to add count=1024 and bs=1M (depending on how big your flash drive is) |
| 20:19.09 | stew | tite12345: or just cp /dev/zero /media/yourflashdrive |
| 20:19.19 | tite12345 | coreyman: It's 16 |
| 20:19.22 | tite12345 | 16 gb |
| 20:19.22 | jokoon | how do I change trackpad/mouse sensitivity? somehow the gnome menu doesn't change my trackpad sensitivuty |
| 20:19.39 | coreyman | count = 16000 |
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| 20:19.53 | stew | only use count if you want to not erase the entire drive |
| 20:19.57 | JT|work | tite12345: do you want to format it so it can be used or shred the data that was on it? |
| 20:20.19 | centrx | What's the gold standard for password managers? |
| 20:20.33 | coreyman | @Stew nice I didnt know you could run cp on /dev/zero without it going infinitely. |
| 20:20.45 | tite12345 | JT|work: Shred |
| 20:20.57 | JT|work | likes keepassx |
| 20:21.02 | FrostySeer | Hello. I installed Debian keeping my home directory from a previous install. However, do to having a new username, those files belong to that non existing user from my old install. Is it okay to just copy the files I need into my newusers home? Would I need to use any permission commands? |
| 20:21.09 | JT|work | tite12345: ok, in that case do the same thing but use /dev/urandom instead of /dev/zero |
| 20:21.12 | stew | coreyman: it can only keep copying until it reaches the end of the target |
| 20:21.17 | coreyman | oh |
| 20:21.24 | centrx | JT|work, Do you know what's the difference between keepassx and keepass2? Seems confusing |
| 20:21.36 | coreyman | keepassx is cross platform. |
| 20:21.42 | JT|work | ^^ right |
| 20:21.42 | coreyman | @centrx |
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| 20:22.02 | JT|work | I use keepassx in winders and linux, inside of a veracrypt volume that also works in both :) |
| 20:22.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | tite12345, mind that on any flash drive, you can never be sure that data cannot be recovered |
| 20:22.18 | coreyman | I just recently switched to lastpass after using keepass for over 5 years... got tired of plugins not working properly. |
| 20:22.23 | JT|work | tite12345: that's true, but urandom is still better than zero :) |
| 20:22.37 | JT|work | plugins? |
| 20:22.50 | tite12345 | JT|work: Ah ok |
| 20:22.52 | coreyman | JT|work: yea firefox/chrome autofill plugins |
| 20:22.55 | centrx | coreyman, With lastpass, aren't all your passwords stored on their remote server? |
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| 20:23.19 | coreyman | centrx yes they handle the security instead of you personally handling the security. |
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| 20:24.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, uh... sounds a bit like giving all your keys to some guy on the internets |
| 20:24.22 | ikus060 | centrx: password manager, you mean something to keep record of your pasword ? I'm using revelation. It served me well for the last year |
| 20:25.04 | tite12345 | JT|work: Hmm, dd isn't in the repos? |
| 20:25.07 | centrx | ikus060, Yes that's what I mean |
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| 20:25.17 | centrx | ikus060, Looks like revelation is Gnome though, so no go for me |
| 20:25.18 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat you can argue about it if you like but there are just as many downsides to keeping and managing all of your own keys. |
| 20:25.28 | tite12345 | JT|work: I just chose KDE in the DE stage in installation by the way. |
| 20:25.35 | tite12345 | But I know that should affect the repo right? |
| 20:25.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | I use keepassx for quite some time... what I really dislike about it is the lack of command-line access... can't use a cetral data file without x11 forwarding |
| 20:26.14 | tite12345 | Debian by default only uses on repo for all DE's right? |
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| 20:26.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, I can't see any downside that could be worse than giving all your passwords to an US company |
| 20:26.32 | coreyman | tite12345: dd should already be installed |
| 20:26.52 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: well for starters how are you sharing your keepass database around to your different devices? |
| 20:27.08 | centrx | tite12345, Everything in Debian is in the same repo, same version of Debian at least |
| 20:27.09 | FrostySeer | Does anyone know the answer to my earlier question? I could really use some help please. |
| 20:27.29 | tite12345 | coreyman: Sorry about that :D |
| 20:27.33 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: also, are you going to keepass and copy pasting every single password into every site you visit on the web? |
| 20:27.41 | centrx | FrostySeer, 1. Change the owner with chown -R |
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| 20:28.08 | centrx | FrostySeer, 2. You probably don't want to copy configuration files (which are hidden files that start with . in the /home/myuser directory) |
| 20:28.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, unimportant passwords can be saved in the browser... actually saving stuff inside the browser is probably good enough for most things, as the disk drive is encrypted |
| 20:28.49 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: see my disk drive isn't encrypted so I do not store passwords in my browser. |
| 20:29.05 | tite12345 | centrx: Ah |
| 20:29.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, even storing unencrypted passwords on an unencrypted disk seems safer than per se giving all your passwords to a US company |
| 20:29.32 | tite12345 | How do I go about installing a plymouth theme? |
| 20:29.42 | tite12345 | I've already copied the theme folder to the plymouth dir |
| 20:29.49 | markybob | i colocate in singapore for a reason |
| 20:29.49 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: tin foil hat is all I'm hearing. |
| 20:29.52 | tite12345 | Now how do I actually apply it? |
| 20:30.10 | FrostySeer | centrx, thanks. There are some dotfiles I was hoping to copy over. But mostly other files. So you think chown will work fine for this? |
| 20:30.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, you must mean lastpass with that :) |
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| 20:30.43 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: no i mean with you thinking that the government cares about your passwords and wants to steal them from lastpass. |
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| 20:30.54 | centrx | FrostySeer, yes, that's all you need for normal documents/mp3s/whatever |
| 20:31.13 | centrx | FrostySeer, you'll need to run it as root |
| 20:31.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, the way you described it, they don't need to steal it ... and pretty much any employee can access it |
| 20:31.50 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: how can they access it without your encryption key? |
| 20:32.06 | FrostySeer | centrx, thank you! I really appreciate your help. I'll give that A try now then |
| 20:32.19 | tite12345 | Also, how about customizing a screensaver from a file downloaded from KDE Look? |
| 20:32.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, a much better design would be, if the client encrypted things and it was only stored on lastpass... |
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| 20:32.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, the way you described it, you send them your key... |
| 20:33.10 | centrx | CutMeOwnThroat, coreyman I was thinking of gpging my new kpx file and e-mailing it to myself |
| 20:33.26 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: it's all sent over https:// so no man in the middle can happen. |
| 20:33.39 | centrx | what about ducks in the middle |
| 20:33.44 | morf | how naive |
| 20:34.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, there doesn't have to be a man in the middle, if I have no trust into the man on the other end |
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| 20:34.46 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: like i said, tin foil hat. |
| 20:35.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, as I said, you must mean how you see their security concept |
| 20:35.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, as I said "non-encrypted passwords on an unencrypted but local disk would be better"... that's no hat at all |
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| 20:35.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I just looked it up on their website... the design isn't how you describe it |
| 20:35.53 | cluelessperson | Question, how do I allow a user to login with SSH keys and essentially have root access for backups? |
| 20:35.59 | coreyman | i didnt describe it at all, you put the words in my mouth |
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| 20:36.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | encryption/decryption is done locally, they only store encrypted stuff, you never share your keys with them (that is, if you trust their client) |
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| 20:36.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | you did... I asked you about it |
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| 20:36.53 | centrx | coreyman, It's any privileged employee at the company, or a weakness in their system allowing hackers, not just the government |
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| 20:37.11 | sipi | Hey, configuring iptables and got error on line: "-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8989 -j ACCEPT" |
| 20:37.15 | sipi | any idea why? |
| 20:37.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, https://lastpass.com/how-it-works/ (at the bottom) |
| 20:37.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, seems storing passwords there is pretty similar to emailing an encrypted copy to yourself |
| 20:38.08 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: i didnt say how lastpass works not one bit except when I said your key is sent over https://.... and it IS sent over https in hash form. |
| 20:38.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, it's not |
| 20:38.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | (at least according to them) |
| 20:38.34 | coreyman | https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=6926 says it is here |
| 20:38.39 | centrx | not open source!!!?! |
| 20:38.51 | coreyman | "The password hash is sent to our servers to verify you." |
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| 20:39.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, there's a cmd-client in debian, which is why we talk about it here :) |
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| 20:39.22 | centrx | whew |
| 20:39.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | coreyman, that's not the password for encrypting your keys, that is an additional to authenticate you |
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| 20:39.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, and it's in jessie/main, so it must be foss |
| 20:40.01 | stew | obviously it can't be only sending your passwords to the server one-way hashed, or else it would be useless |
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| 20:40.32 | coreyman | CutMeOwnThroat: you can generate the decryption key from the password. |
| 20:40.37 | coreyman | that is sent hashed to their server |
| 20:40.48 | coreyman | if you knew how it generated it. |
| 20:41.02 | centrx | CutMeOwnThroat, yeah system could be legit then. Almost seems strange if lastpass.com is just like drive storage |
| 20:41.32 | Amun_Ra | it could be but why bother if you got keepass |
| 20:41.48 | coreyman | Browser and mobile extensions so much better imo. |
| 20:41.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, I still feel running it somewhere locally, be it on a pi and dyndns or so would be preferrable somehow |
| 20:42.29 | centrx | I used to keep all my passwords in my head, but someone hacked it and I ran out of storage |
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| 20:43.42 | hbvt | Is there any free file hosting service (no hassle, whatsoever) nowadays? |
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| 20:44.18 | centrx | hbvt, Google Drive/Gmail has 15GB |
| 20:44.50 | hbvt | centrx: requires signing up, right? |
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| 20:45.16 | centrx | yeah |
| 20:45.20 | centrx | imgur for images I guess |
| 20:45.20 | hbvt | I need only <10MB and would like to do it on the fly without signing up |
| 20:45.27 | Amun_Ra | hbvt: you haven't specified that in your question |
| 20:45.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, there wasn't enough space for all of them next to all the pr0n :P |
| 20:45.44 | hbvt | Amun_Ra: that's why I added it in my second post :-) |
| 20:45.49 | centrx | pastebin |
| 20:46.13 | Amun_Ra | hbvt: that doesn't invalidate centrix's answer ;> |
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| 20:46.41 | centrx | If he has to make an account, he has to remember a password |
| 20:46.54 | centrx | Then he has to get a password keeper |
| 20:47.02 | centrx | Then we're back to the same discussion |
| 20:47.04 | centrx | My kingdom for a nail! |
| 20:49.27 | Jeivy | when i need a small space for backup files i usually upload them to an email server |
| 20:49.34 | JT|work | tite12345: dd is installed by default, it's common utility. Choosing KDE during install will not change your repos or set them up in a special way |
| 20:49.49 | hbvt | Why are you both so cruel to me? Don't treat me like I had no feelings only because I'm a bot. |
| 20:49.59 | hyperborean | hbvt: there are some, google it |
| 20:50.03 | centrx | !bot |
| 20:50.04 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 20:51.22 | hbvt | Debian's pastebin doesn't state what's the maximum filesyze for attachments. Uploading something broke the connection... |
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| 20:56.12 | Jeivy | android is linux plus java, right? so what is googleos? is ubuntu touch the only way to install debian on tablets? |
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| 20:58.17 | cluelessperson | Question, how do I create a root user for backup? |
| 20:58.19 | hbvt | "android is linux plus java, right?", that's what I call technical elaboration. |
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| 21:00.36 | hbvt | hyperborean: There are tons of filehosts to be found that tell to be free, fast, no registration, etc. But few that really work. That's why I asked if someone knew of a reliable one. |
| 21:00.52 | hyperborean | cluelessperson: can you rephrase the question? is it to do backup or as backup to the root user? |
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| 21:01.18 | cluelessperson | hyperborean, it's to create backups, and perform the backup commands needed including with root access |
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| 21:01.46 | hyperborean | hbvt: I know. I needed once one about a year ago. found after about 15 minutes one...dont remember the name though, worked well |
| 21:01.55 | hyperborean | cluelessperson: use sudo |
| 21:01.55 | cluelessperson | hyperborean, all the servers have remote root access enabled, so I figure I'd just use root |
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| 21:02.28 | cluelessperson | hyperborean, also, using SSH keys, can I just use one ssh key to login to all of the servers as root? |
| 21:02.44 | hyperborean | hbvt: try zippyshare |
| 21:03.45 | hyperborean | cluelessperson: afaik yes. just put the keys in their .ssh dirs |
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| 21:05.09 | cluelessperson | how do I send ssh keys to other servers again? /me googles |
| 21:05.21 | hyperborean | cluelessperson: scp |
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| 21:05.49 | someone_ | apt-get install dpkg-devel ---> unable to locate package dpkg-devel |
| 21:05.53 | someone_ | network is working |
| 21:05.56 | hyperborean | cluelessperson: just try it out that it wirks for sure before you disable password login |
| 21:06.19 | someone_ | just filled in sources.list with example from the handbook |
| 21:06.19 | hyperborean | s/wirks/works |
| 21:06.32 | someone_ | why cant it find it |
| 21:06.33 | croup | Hi debian folks. Somehow I have no titlebar (the one with "maximize", "minimize", and "close"-buttons, usually) in icedove anymore. I'm using gnome3 on debian jessie. Any ideas? |
| 21:07.15 | Jeivy | reset de wm settings |
| 21:08.13 | someone_ | all i need in sources.ist is "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main" right, for dpkg-devel? |
| 21:08.16 | Ademan | I'm trying to boot from USB on a very old system that I'm not certain can boot from a flash drive (bios has separate options for USB floppy and USB HDD, makes me suspect it may not handle "normal" mass storage correctly). Anyways, I copied the netinst image to the flash drive with dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=4M and the laptop fails to recognize it |
| 21:08.34 | hyperborean | someone_: the sources list should have been generated during the installation, you dont have to add anything there to have to be able to find dpkg-dev |
| 21:08.55 | someone_ | it was empty becuase i wasnt connected to the internet at the time |
| 21:08.59 | someone_ | so i did cd only |
| 21:09.06 | Ademan | however, I see https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en that I can execute cp debian.iso /dev/sdd is that materially different from using dd, when the target location is a block device? |
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| 21:10.00 | tite12345 | How do I apply a grub file for me to be able to change my grub2? |
| 21:10.05 | tite12345 | I downloaded a gzip file |
| 21:10.16 | Jeivy | you can use the kernel boot patameters to launch the usb |
| 21:10.18 | tite12345 | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/GRUB+splash+image+with+Napoleon?content=54496 |
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| 21:10.39 | someone_ | do i need to restart or tell apt-get somehow that sources-list has been updated |
| 21:10.42 | hyperborean | someone_: yeah that should work what you posted...and there is a trailing slash after the last debian |
| 21:10.58 | hyperborean | someone_: run apt-get update |
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| 21:11.44 | hbvt | hyperborean: always hangs in between the upload of my 7.3MB file. Sometimes at 50%, sometimes at 70%... nevermind. I'll do the thing differently. |
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| 21:12.30 | bleb | Instances of .xsession are piling up as I log in and out. To prevent this, I tried setting KillUserProcesses=1 in /etc/systemd/logind.conf but the problem persists. Anything else I might try? |
| 21:12.43 | someone_ | hyperborean, still no luck with trailing slash or apt-get update |
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| 21:14.47 | hyperborean | someone_: weird, can you wuery me and post your complete /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:14.48 | someone_ | http://ftp.debian.org doesnt exist apparently |
| 21:15.02 | someone_ | wheres the official list of repositories? |
| 21:15.50 | eclipsespark | have you tried http.debian.org? |
| 21:15.51 | hyperborean | someone_: of course it exists, i just browsed there with my browser |
| 21:16.00 | centrx | !sources |
| 21:16.01 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 21:16.57 | someone_ | hyperborean: that exact url? i just pinged it from 2 boxes over the same network im talkking to you on |
| 21:17.06 | someone_ | failed to dns lookup |
| 21:17.52 | hyperborean | someone_: yeah, im in ftp.debian.org now |
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| 21:18.01 | someone_ | nevermind, i includedd the http protocol |
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| 21:18.49 | hyperborean | someone_: someone_ with http it works too |
| 21:19.45 | someone_ | im going to copy the sources.list |
| 21:19.46 | Jeivy | someone: ping the server address |
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| 21:21.20 | hyperborean | someone_: or dig ftp.debian.org you will get 130.89.148.12 as adress back...if you can ping that you have a dns screwup somewhere |
| 21:21.26 | croup | Jeivy: Resetting wm setting did reset the whole gnome 3 desktop, despite the windowbar in iceweasel :-( |
| 21:23.10 | croup | Sorry, I meant icedove :-[ |
| 21:23.14 | someone_ | hyperborean, i can ping it i just accidently included the http:// prefix when pinging. |
| 21:23.23 | someone_ | hyperborean, http://pastebin.com/cDcyzZyU |
| 21:24.06 | uxfi | wormfood? |
| 21:24.15 | uxfi | ah he's gone |
| 21:24.17 | hyperborean | someone_: write jessie lowercase not Jessie ;) |
| 21:24.56 | someone_ | hyberborean, pastebin did it, its actually lowecase in the file |
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| 21:26.43 | Jeivy | what happens is mostly due to window manager theme or .config. if dpkg-reconfigure didnt do the trick you could installl openbox the purge and reinstall gnome |
| 21:27.04 | hyperborean | someone_: hmm this is really weird then...because it *should* work |
| 21:27.29 | hyperborean | someone_: so apt-get update doesnt do anything? |
| 21:27.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, is there a package in debian that would allow people to upload a file but not see or download it via https? |
| 21:28.01 | someone_ | hyperborean, it prodouced a bunch of output, no errors |
| 21:28.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess it can be done with 10-20 or less lines of php |
| 21:28.19 | hyperborean | someone_: wait, there is a cache somewhere in usr...let me find the exact location, if you delete it apt is forced to reload everything |
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| 21:29.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, seems "woof" does it |
| 21:29.49 | johnfg | in an ls: what does the l mean: lrwxrwxrwx. |
| 21:30.17 | johnfg | Still working on a few permission problems. /var/mail/<user> was/is one |
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| 21:30.34 | croup | jeivy: I just deleted all the user-configfiles in the home diectory. That didn't help. And it's really just icedove, I'd rather leave the rest of the desktop untouched ;-) |
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| 21:31.41 | Jeivy | you could try thunderbird and iceweasel |
| 21:32.13 | croup | on debian jessie?! |
| 21:32.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | but woof isn't https :( |
| 21:32.37 | croup | you mean using 3rd party repos? |
| 21:33.29 | Jeivy | yes. icedove is the same soft repackaged |
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| 21:34.53 | Jeivy | you could add mint debian repo |
| 21:34.59 | asterismo | hi ppl |
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| 21:35.03 | asterismo | i have a question |
| 21:35.09 | asterismo | i created an init.d script |
| 21:35.16 | asterismo | and i want to launch at startup |
| 21:35.18 | croup | Now I'm getting pale ;-) |
| 21:35.29 | asterismo | currently is not launching, i have to launch it manually |
| 21:35.32 | asterismo | is that possible? |
| 21:35.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | johnny_, softlink |
| 21:36.01 | hyperborean | someone_: ok this is a bit adventurous...make a copy of the directory /var/lib/apt/lists (copy everything inside somewhere in your homedir) then delete everything there (not the directory itself) and then run apt-get update again |
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| 21:37.22 | croup | Thanks Jeivy, I will tinker now with your proposals for a while and see what I make out of them. Maybe I really switch to thunderbird (debian-mint-version). |
| 21:37.54 | Jeivy | ok. debian is about freedom. it doesnt mean you cant install non-free sof |
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| 21:40.26 | someone_ | hyperborean, it updates sucessfully, still cant locate dpkg-devel |
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| 21:41.30 | someone_ | hyperborean, it can find vim though |
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| 21:42.24 | hyperborean | someone_: hm, im more used to aptitude the curses interface...can you just run aptitude then press l (for limit) and in the search mask write dpkg-dev |
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| 21:42.35 | hyperborean | on my system it is installed |
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| 21:43.19 | someone_ | oh |
| 21:43.27 | someone_ | hyperborean, dpkg-dev |
| 21:43.43 | someone_ | hyperborean, seems to work better than dpkg-devel |
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| 21:43.48 | hyperborean | lol |
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| 21:43.55 | someone_ | lol yeeeah |
| 21:44.00 | someone_ | thanks |
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| 21:45.05 | hyperborean | someone_: haha no problem |
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| 21:48.26 | kruug | Hi, I'm trying to work with PyQt5, and I have installed PyQt5-dev, but when I run the program, I get `ImportError: No module named PyQt5.QtCore` |
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| 21:48.52 | kruug | How can I ensure that PyQt5 is in my path? Where would I find it to add it to my path? |
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| 21:51.22 | cluelessperson | question, can you do this? |
| 21:51.23 | cluelessperson | rsync $ra root@earth:/etc $BD/earth/ |
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| 21:56.18 | morf | cluelessperson: it just works |
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| 22:04.28 | Ooze | What's the damage in manually clearing my /tmp ? |
| 22:04.38 | Ooze | Does it autoclean at all or only on reboot? |
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| 22:23.46 | Spec | What is the most usable rdp client in debian? The one I have (vinagre) doesn't do things like...remember resolution+hostname combinations, and the likes. I'd like one that at least supports remember simple profiles, or the last-used resolution |
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| 22:25.59 | cluelessperson | any ideas why debian won't keep it's ip? |
| 22:26.07 | cluelessperson | http://paste.debian.net/361591/ |
| 22:26.41 | nkuttler | cluelessperson: probably some stupid cronjob, or is some dhcp client running? |
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| 22:27.01 | Ooze | Amun_Ra: Will I mess things up if I clear it? I'd rather not reboot but it's getting kinda full |
| 22:27.37 | Amun_Ra | Ooze: depends on the definision of messing |
| 22:27.48 | Ooze | If I delete everything in the /tmp directory |
| 22:27.53 | Ooze | Will I later regret it? |
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| 22:28.14 | cluelessperson | nkuttler, neither, fresh install of the os. |
| 22:28.23 | Amun_Ra | Ooze: not really |
| 22:28.34 | cluelessperson | Ooze, some things store PIDs in there or use it for caching... |
| 22:28.43 | cluelessperson | I imagine it'd recover with a restart though. |
| 22:28.44 | Amun_Ra | Ooze: you shouldn't delete all, only those you know are not in use |
| 22:28.57 | Ooze | I've just got a ton of these .jpgs... |
| 22:29.36 | Amun_Ra | Ooze: so get rid of them :> |
| 22:30.40 | Ooze | oooookay |
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| 22:33.06 | Velu | Hello all. Odd question, but is there any chance the apt repositories for Squeeze are still up? I ask because I require some Squeeze era old versions of libraries for a game I have been asked to compile. Not worth rewriting if I can just set up a squeeze VM and send them on their way. |
| 22:34.49 | nkuttler | cluelessperson: ip addresses don't just change randomly |
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| 22:35.13 | nkuttler | cluelessperson: can you try replacing the nic, or adding another one? |
| 22:35.34 | testpil0t | Velu, squeeze is LTS. It should still be up |
| 22:35.48 | testpil0t | http://ftp.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/debian/debian/dists/squeeze-lts/ |
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| 22:38.33 | Velu | testpil0t: Thanks. |
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| 22:44.58 | cluelessperson | nkuttler, unfortunately no, although the server does have Eth0,1,2,3 :D |
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| 22:51.05 | karlpinc | cluelessperson: So, what's in /etc/network/interfaces.d/* ? |
| 22:53.57 | cluelessperson | karlpinc, absolutely nothing |
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| 23:27.12 | lemondom | hi |
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| 23:39.30 | PigDude_ | hi, I have a noobish question ... how can I load an ICC profile in Xfce? I was looking into it and ended up in Arch wiki which has good information for this, but I wanted to ask in here before continuing on that route |
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| 23:41.09 | PigDude_ | it seems Xfce has no tool for this .. the arch wiki shows a way to load the profile with xcalib, and another with dispwin (which requires an .xinitrc and might be a pain to set up in Debian) |
| 23:41.42 | PigDude_ | totally unrelated question is how to stop apt from clobbering my .desktop files which I edit manually to make application quick launcher more intuitive |
| 23:41.45 | mtn | PigDude_: it is likely the arch instructions will work fine in debian |
| 23:41.56 | PigDude_ | mtn, debian will use an xinitrc? |
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| 23:42.06 | PigDude_ | i'm not calling startx etc. |
| 23:42.09 | PigDude_ | *running |
| 23:42.12 | mtn | PigDude_: the same as any other distro |
| 23:42.23 | mtn | PigDude_: it may need to go into another file. |
| 23:42.25 | PigDude_ | ok thanks, I've only dealt w/ it in arch, w/ minimal setups |
| 23:42.49 | PigDude_ | i'll try xcalib first as it seems like the most basic/simple one |
| 23:42.55 | Scriptonaut | I'm trying to pull out the numbers in here into 3 variables using either sed or awk, could somebody help me? here's the string: "1/1%::40" |
| 23:42.57 | mtn | PigDude_: always worth a try |
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| 23:43.19 | PigDude_ | any idea about the .desktop thing? I was surprised when an upgrade didn't tread my local modifications like it does for /etc files , though that's naiive |
| 23:43.19 | Scriptonaut | I'm a programmer, but sed and awk are terribly awkward to use. And it seems like overkill to write a program to do this |
| 23:43.30 | PigDude_ | Scriptonaut, aw, sed's great |
| 23:43.46 | Scriptonaut | I'm just new to it so I complain :) |
| 23:43.46 | PigDude_ | Scriptonaut, you want that to become 1 1 40? |
| 23:43.57 | Scriptonaut | I want to pull it out into three variables |
| 23:44.03 | PigDude_ | in a shell script? |
| 23:44.07 | Scriptonaut | yes |
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| 23:44.11 | PigDude_ | i'd recommend using another language tbh |
| 23:44.14 | Scriptonaut | either that, or just literally in a string |
| 23:44.18 | PigDude_ | you can probably do it w/ some IFS stuff, dunno |
| 23:44.24 | Scriptonaut | hmm |
| 23:44.28 | Scriptonaut | I might do ruby oneliners |
| 23:44.31 | PigDude_ | one sec though i'll write the sed |
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| 23:44.38 | Ademan | Scriptonaut: #bash is a great resource for these kinds of questions if nobody in here can answer |
| 23:44.43 | Scriptonaut | right now I'm doing: sed -r 's/(\d+)/\1/p |
| 23:44.49 | Scriptonaut | Thanks Ademan |
| 23:45.09 | Scriptonaut | however that just returns the entire string |
| 23:45.11 | Scriptonaut | not the first match |
| 23:45.20 | PigDude_ | Scriptonaut, echo '1/1%::40' | sed 's/[^0-9]\+/ /g' # => 1 1 40 |
| 23:46.10 | Scriptonaut | thanks PigDude_, that pulls them all out and separates with space. How can I just return the first number? |
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| 23:46.45 | PigDude_ | another way |
| 23:46.48 | PigDude_ | echo '1/1%::40' | tr '/%:' ' ' |
| 23:46.59 | PigDude_ | (same output w/ a little more intermediate whitespace) |
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| 23:47.12 | Ademan | PigDude_: I like it |
| 23:47.13 | PigDude_ | Scriptonaut, you want just the first 1 ? |
| 23:47.19 | Scriptonaut | yes |
| 23:47.23 | PigDude_ | oh that's easy |
| 23:47.26 | Scriptonaut | and then later in the program, the second number |
| 23:47.27 | Scriptonaut | and the third |
| 23:47.30 | Scriptonaut | I'm calling it three times |
| 23:47.32 | Ademan | Scriptonaut: one point, will there ever be a number in between the two :: ? |
| 23:47.39 | Scriptonaut | no |
| 23:47.44 | Scriptonaut | that :: is just a separater |
| 23:47.47 | PigDude_ | this is gonna be an ugly scrpit if you do it that way Scriptonaut, you might just want to use perl/py |
| 23:47.48 | Scriptonaut | separator* |
| 23:47.51 | Scriptonaut | I can change it to anything |
| 23:47.56 | PigDude_ | i mean you can do it w/ some very dynamic bash |
| 23:48.01 | Scriptonaut | ah |
| 23:48.11 | Scriptonaut | I can do it in perl/py/rb then |
| 23:48.19 | Scriptonaut | thanks for the tips guys |
| 23:48.22 | PigDude_ | yea that would be my bet before you descend this rabbit hole further :) |
| 23:48.26 | Ademan | with IFS=' ' couldn't you just use your tr? |
| 23:48.27 | PigDude_ | but still sed is great :) |
| 23:48.30 | Scriptonaut | hehe |
| 23:48.37 | PigDude_ | Ademan, ah good call |
| 23:48.41 | FXpro | so now I have this .ch file I downloaded. |
| 23:48.48 | PigDude_ | using Ademan's approach you could turn that into a bash array fairly easily |
| 23:48.57 | FXpro | excuse me, .sh file. |
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| 23:49.48 | PigDude_ | but yea the good folks in #bash can help if you decide to do it that way |
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| 23:50.44 | lemondom | hi |
| 23:50.49 | lemondom | what package will give me the cdu command? |
| 23:51.17 | lemondom | I want to find out what directories are disk space hogs |
| 23:51.53 | PigDude_ | lemondom, ncdu? |
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