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| 00:35.14 | lotsoftuna | Hi, per the guide on the Debian Wiki about skype |
| 00:35.26 | lotsoftuna | can ekiga or jitsi support logging into my skype account? |
| 00:37.00 | themill | only skype can talk to skype |
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| 00:38.06 | lotsoftuna | dammit |
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| 00:38.17 | lotsoftuna | I'd rather not install 210MB worth of i386 dependencies |
| 00:38.30 | lotsoftuna | but I guess I'll have to to get Skype access in debian |
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| 00:38.34 | lotsoftuna | which is ridiculous |
| 00:38.45 | lotsoftuna | I mean, yes I want to use the free alternatives, but all my friends are on skype |
| 00:38.52 | lotsoftuna | same with facebook, twitter, instagram |
| 00:38.54 | lotsoftuna | anything like that |
| 00:38.58 | YamakasY | is it possible to cancel the firewall startup when booting ?it hangs, bad network I think |
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| 01:00.29 | R4F_Debian | I would like to know if there is an application which is faster than 'devede', to convert several video formats to NTSC format, in Debian |
| 01:01.00 | R4F_Debian | ConvertX to DVD4 takes about 45 min to convert a 700 MB .mp4 vÃdeo format to NTSC. But it only runs on Windows... Devede takes about 2 hours to do the same job |
| 01:01.29 | beepie | YamakasY, netfilter-persistent? |
| 01:02.14 | YamakasY | beepie: nah no I added the ip of the nic as GW... fixed it with a bootcd |
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| 01:03.25 | R4F_Debian | I could do this job easily on Windows, but my OS is Debian Jessie 8.2, so I need any other app to replace 'Devede' as well.. |
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| 01:06.08 | axc1298 | lotsoftuna: why not just use the website? |
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| 01:15.45 | cafuego | R4F_Debian: ffmpeg, or whatever it's called these days. |
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| 01:30.14 | Scriptonaut | I can't get lemonbar to start when I login to dwm. I have a script that execs dwm, and does a few other things (sets my background, instantiates rofi). However, lemonbar isn't starting. I can run ./lemonbarstart.sh just fine from the command line, and it pops up and behaves correctly. How can I find out why it's not working in my dwmstart script? Where would the logs be telling me if an error happened? |
| 01:30.20 | Scriptonaut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:33.41 | kratos | hello everybody. I have a problem with my Debian Jessie and a newly acquired Dell 34 inch widescreen display. Anybody around willing to help me out? |
| 01:33.54 | Scriptonaut | just post the question |
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| 01:34.10 | beepie | kratos, 34 inch screen sounds like a big deal, what's with the heads up? |
| 01:34.15 | beepie | kratos, shoot! |
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| 01:34.31 | kratos | okay, the native resolution is 3440x1440 |
| 01:34.35 | kratos | 21:9 aspect ratio |
| 01:34.48 | Scriptonaut | kratos: what's the issue with it? |
| 01:34.53 | kratos | but for the love of god, I cannot convince my Dell Latitude 7450 to bring it to that |
| 01:34.53 | Scriptonaut | is the resolution screwed up? |
| 01:35.08 | abrotman | kratos: xrandr q ; does it list more than one device? |
| 01:35.17 | beepie | Scriptonaut, does the machine boot to like 1024x768? --> xrandr shows other resolutions? |
| 01:35.25 | kratos | I can successfully set it to 2560x1440 |
| 01:35.36 | Scriptonaut | I think you meant kratos beepie |
| 01:35.40 | Scriptonaut | I don't have a screen problem |
| 01:35.41 | abrotman | kratos: are you sure your video card can do that resolution? |
| 01:35.42 | beepie | kratos, ^ |
| 01:35.43 | Scriptonaut | I have a dwm and lemonbar problem |
| 01:35.55 | kratos | Also, I cannot close my laptop lid (which is docked to a dell docking station) without the monitor going to sleep. |
| 01:36.01 | Scriptonaut | kratos: also you might need a new driver |
| 01:36.06 | beepie | kratos, a laptop with 34 inch? |
| 01:36.08 | Scriptonaut | what kinda graphics card do you have |
| 01:36.09 | kratos | let me run xrandr |
| 01:36.22 | beepie | :) |
| 01:36.37 | beepie | kratos, stick with 1 problem at a time |
| 01:36.38 | kratos | martin@martin-dev:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 4480 x 1440, maximum 32767 x 32767 eDP1 connected 1920x1080+0+360 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 309mm x 174mm 1920x1080 60.00*+ 59.93 48.00 1680x1050 59.95 59.88 1600x1024 60.17 1400x1050 59.98 1280x1024 60.02 1440x900 59.89 1280x960 60.00 1360x768 59.80 59.96 1152x864 60 |
| 01:36.46 | kratos | iek that doesnt paste well, does it ? |
| 01:37.41 | kratos | as for my graphics card, it should be an intel hd5500 |
| 01:37.49 | beepie | kratos, are there EDID errors in X log? |
| 01:38.11 | beepie | kratos, intel means latest kernel, packages and microcode |
| 01:38.33 | beepie | kratos, (intel-microcode package) |
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| 01:38.46 | kratos | martin@martin-dev:~$ uname -a Linux martin-dev 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.2.6-1~bpo8+1 (2015-11-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 01:38.52 | kratos | is what i am running |
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| 01:39.13 | abrotman | did you install the intel driver from BPO also? |
| 01:39.25 | kratos | i just intalled the intel-microcode package |
| 01:39.26 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-driver-intel |
| 01:39.27 | judd | No package named 'xserver-xorg-driver-intel' was found in amd64. |
| 01:39.28 | abrotman | bah |
| 01:39.44 | abrotman | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 01:39.45 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:2.99.917-2; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2; experimental: 2:2.99.917+git20151217-1~exp1 |
| 01:40.22 | kratos | that package was also missingh |
| 01:40.25 | kratos | missing* |
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| 01:40.32 | kratos | abrotman: thank you for pointing that out |
| 01:41.09 | kratos | shall i perform a reboot? |
| 01:41.29 | beepie | kratos, hopefully nothing freezes :) |
| 01:41.47 | kratos | hehe |
| 01:41.48 | kratos | brb |
| 01:41.48 | abrotman | or explodes .. |
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| 01:46.35 | kratos_ | well, nothing blew up |
| 01:46.44 | kratos_ | but still the same behavior |
| 01:47.00 | kratos_ | 2560x1440 is the max i can go and i cannot close my laptop lid |
| 01:47.49 | abrotman | one problem at a time |
| 01:48.15 | abrotman | kratos_: are you sure the video card can do the higher resolution? |
| 01:48.44 | kratos_ | how would i find out? |
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| 01:52.06 | kratos_ | there seem to be people out there that can drive a 4K display with the HD5500 |
| 01:52.11 | abrotman | kratos_: I don't know if man intel would say that or not |
| 01:52.18 | abrotman | kratos_: what does 'xrandr q' say? |
| 01:52.34 | abrotman | eh .. wrong option |
| 01:52.44 | abrotman | apparently just no q |
| 01:53.05 | kratos_ | martin@martin-dev:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 4480 x 1440, maximum 32767 x 32767 eDP1 connected 1920x1080+0+360 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 309mm x 174mm 1920x1080 60.00*+ 59.93 48.00 1680x1050 59.95 59.88 1600x1024 60.17 1400x1050 59.98 1280x1024 60.02 1440x900 59.89 1280x960 60.00 1360x768 59.80 59.96 1152x864 60 |
| 01:53.08 | kratos_ | does not paste well |
| 01:53.15 | kratos_ | but it listss the 3440 |
| 01:53.32 | abrotman | you can use paste.debian.net also :) |
| 01:53.47 | abrotman | it says the resolution is what you want? |
| 01:54.02 | kratos_ | one sec |
| 01:54.25 | kratos_ | http://paste.debian.net/361688/ |
| 01:54.32 | kratos_ | line 21 |
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| 01:55.42 | abrotman | I'm confused about that output |
| 01:56.06 | kratos_ | one display pertains to my laptop displayt |
| 01:56.10 | kratos_ | the other one is the monitior |
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| 01:56.48 | abrotman | I know that .. but the first output makes no sense |
| 01:57.12 | kratos_ | in what way? |
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| 01:57.33 | kratos_ | line 3 says its 1920x1080 |
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| 01:59.01 | abrotman | kratos_: read what it says the current resolution is |
| 01:59.18 | kratos_ | yeah it adds the two of them togethger |
| 01:59.23 | kratos_ | horizontally that is |
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| 02:00.42 | abrotman | then, the other output is the external? |
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| 02:02.13 | kratos_ | ok, i think there are two separate things going on |
| 02:02.29 | kratos_ | screen0 is what i can hover over with my mouse, right? |
| 02:02.43 | kratos_ | screen0 is comprised of two displays |
| 02:02.55 | kratos_ | i mean, you tell me if it is wrong |
| 02:03.07 | Hoolio | fyi debian aarnet mirror is a little unreliable, and i'm working with them to provide some client side performance metrics by which they may measure the unreliability. if you'd like to participate, please see https://github.com/hooliowobbits/aarnet-mirror-test |
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| 02:04.42 | abrotman | kratos_: I'm not sure about that .. |
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| 02:04.54 | abrotman | kratos_: oh, yes, sorry |
| 02:05.13 | abrotman | kratos_: it seems like the external only supports 3440x1440 .. but you think it goes higher? |
| 02:06.13 | kratos_ | no, it should only go to that resolution |
| 02:06.14 | kratos_ | but |
| 02:06.18 | kratos_ | when i apply the changes |
| 02:06.23 | kratos_ | the dusplay stays dark |
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| 02:07.28 | armin | so, seems like i'm finally over with firefox and chromium and both suck at some points hard enough to make me look for alternatives. |
| 02:07.54 | abrotman | ha! |
| 02:08.04 | armin | thing is, i'm a keyboard user at heart and like vimperator, though it's not perfect and destroys some of the default keybindings. |
| 02:08.14 | armin | 2nd thing is that customizing vimperator is pretty hard. |
| 02:08.21 | polyphagia | you can use ~/.vimperatorrc |
| 02:08.28 | polyphagia | i've customized vimperator a bit |
| 02:08.35 | kratos_ | use emacs :) |
| 02:08.36 | armin | the issue i have with chromium is that i love to use a global dark css style at night, making ALL websites completely black to ease my eyes. |
| 02:08.44 | polyphagia | i've tried using other browsers like dwb but nothing is as good as firefox unfortunately |
| 02:09.01 | polyphagia | you're best bet is to figure out what you want to do with vimperator |
| 02:09.03 | armin | polyphagia: that's a good attempt: googling for "gist github vimperatorrc". |
| 02:09.05 | polyphagia | because you'll end up back at firefox |
| 02:09.11 | kratos_ | abrotman: also, directly going over my miniDP port to the monitor without the docking station does not differ at all |
| 02:09.16 | polyphagia | i've got mine on a gist armin :P |
| 02:09.29 | polyphagia | armin: https://gist.github.com/misterhat/c17bf068dcee39ffb13c |
| 02:09.34 | armin | polyphagia: would you mind posting me a link in a /query or just here? |
| 02:09.35 | polyphagia | mine's very simple though |
| 02:09.36 | armin | ah ty |
| 02:09.40 | polyphagia | i didn't change much |
| 02:09.59 | polyphagia | but you do have the freedom to change a lot |
| 02:10.02 | armin | still firefox has some issues i can't for the life of me change in behaviour |
| 02:10.06 | polyphagia | if you're missing keybindings, you can add them back |
| 02:10.09 | polyphagia | like what? |
| 02:10.12 | armin | one is the menu bar disappearing when i fullscreen a firefox window. |
| 02:10.22 | armin | i didn't find a way to suppress this. |
| 02:10.25 | armin | any idea? |
| 02:10.27 | polyphagia | well |
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| 02:10.29 | polyphagia | set gui=noaddons,nobookmarks,nomenu,nonavigation,notabs |
| 02:10.38 | polyphagia | i use this and it basically turns my regular firefox into a fullscreen firefox |
| 02:10.43 | polyphagia | with just the vimperator status bar |
| 02:10.44 | polyphagia | so |
| 02:10.47 | armin | ok let me dig into your rc |
| 02:10.50 | polyphagia | you can probably make a macro to only toggle some of those |
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| 02:10.55 | armin | ok |
| 02:11.04 | polyphagia | you can get fullscreen by running that in a vim session |
| 02:11.09 | polyphagia | with :set gui=noaddons,nobookmarks,nomenu,nonavigation,notabs |
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| 02:11.23 | polyphagia | so if you can figure out how to toggle that without nomenu, you can get what you want |
| 02:11.39 | polyphagia | vimperator* not vim :P |
| 02:12.00 | armin | 2nd thing is: i always just start with a custom git branch of mine that i use because so many of firefox' defaults suck so much that i need a well defined starting point nowadays. i even consider to auto-commit my ~/.mozilla/ nowadays. am i completely on a lost path or would you still not consider me nuts? |
| 02:12.34 | armin | ok let me test your config lines |
| 02:13.03 | polyphagia | i just don't rely on any of firefox's UI really |
| 02:13.07 | polyphagia | that's why i disabled it all :P |
| 02:13.12 | polyphagia | i can navigate tabs with J/K or using the b key |
| 02:13.20 | polyphagia | i can go to custom urls for addons |
| 02:13.25 | polyphagia | there's :dialog too |
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| 02:16.53 | armin | polyphagia: http://arminius.org/screenshot.png |
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| 02:17.00 | armin | polyphagia: not too bad |
| 02:17.11 | polyphagia | i even disabled that top bar |
| 02:17.19 | polyphagia | my firefox is just the vimperator status bar and the content |
| 02:17.36 | armin | ah, the hardcore approach |
| 02:17.42 | polyphagia | not really tbh i mean |
| 02:17.48 | polyphagia | you can open new urls by using o or t |
| 02:17.54 | polyphagia | navigate with b |
| 02:17.59 | polyphagia | it all works haha |
| 02:18.05 | armin | well i use :tabopen a lot |
| 02:18.06 | polyphagia | the top bar didn't really give me much |
| 02:18.12 | armin | yeah same for me |
| 02:18.27 | armin | so how did you disable it? |
| 02:18.45 | polyphagia | set gui=noaddons,nobookmarks,nomenu,nonavigation,notabs |
| 02:18.47 | polyphagia | that's all i had |
| 02:18.49 | armin | also the configure dialog that pops up when i right click on something is bright white background and bright blue background |
| 02:19.04 | armin | what is this white background hype nowadays man, this shit hurts my eyes. |
| 02:19.35 | armin | :-( |
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| 02:20.16 | armin | i even refuse that some silly "webdesigner" forces #FFFFFF on my valuable eyes by applying a global css here, but mozilla really makes it hard to live in the dark like i do. |
| 02:20.26 | zinx | armin: everyone knows people buy the monitor that is brighter/shinier |
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| 02:20.46 | armin | zinx: yeah. seems like people just hate people.# |
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| 02:21.48 | armin | it's really hard nowadays to come up with own desktop themes as every now and then some application refuses to follow gtk themes even if it is a gtk application, like firefox. |
| 02:22.20 | armin | this is especially annoying when trying to configure firefox. i ended up with getting used to lower my screen brightness before i try doing so. |
| 02:22.41 | armin | i mean sure, living in the dark never has been easy, but what is this? |
| 02:23.02 | kratos_ | yo, abrotman, via hdmi it works ... |
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| 02:23.10 | kratos_ | 3440x1440 at 60Hz |
| 02:23.33 | abrotman | ah, good? |
| 02:23.52 | armin | hdmi with more than 1080p? did i miss a new hdmi standards subset? |
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| 02:26.24 | armin | polyphagia: can i somehow tell vimperator to not automatically jump into the first text input field when i press a key that does nothing other? this happens to me on google when pressing the "s" key. |
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| 02:29.52 | polyphagia | google autofocuses the input box armin |
| 02:29.58 | polyphagia | i'm not sure if you can disable that |
| 02:30.03 | polyphagia | with vimperator |
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| 02:32.25 | lotsoftuna | Hi... I've got buzzing coming out of one speaker after bootup; It seems to dissapear after a while |
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| 02:33.05 | lotsoftuna | Debian 8.2, nothing changed. I have Pulseaudio and Alsa installed. I've muted everything, except for some reason PCM, Mic Boost and Internal Mic Boost can never be muted |
| 02:33.09 | lotsoftuna | Like, the settings don't stick |
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| 02:33.51 | armin | well, pulseaudio... |
| 02:33.58 | lotsoftuna | Can I remove it? |
| 02:34.04 | lotsoftuna | why do i need 2 audio mixers |
| 02:34.12 | armin | sure you can remove it |
| 02:35.13 | armin | beware of dependency hell, though |
| 02:35.37 | armin | i just rename /usr/bin/pulseaudio on /usr/lib/pulseaudio.orig on some of my machines even, because too many packages depend on my systems, but i'm pretty sure debian people would call me nuts for that. |
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| 02:35.52 | lotsoftuna | Yeah, I'm gonna leave it |
| 02:35.53 | armin | s/my systems/pulse/ |
| 02:35.58 | lotsoftuna | if I can fix the buzzing though |
| 02:36.02 | lotsoftuna | it seems to have dissapeared but |
| 02:36.08 | lotsoftuna | It's there on boot, and is annoying as fuck |
| 02:36.08 | armin | buzzing? |
| 02:36.21 | armin | what kind of soundcard do you have? |
| 02:37.44 | lotsoftuna | uh |
| 02:37.52 | lotsoftuna | Realtek something... how do I check/ |
| 02:38.13 | armin | lscpi / lsusb probably, alsamixer will also show you that on the top left. |
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| 02:38.26 | lotsoftuna | HDA Intel MID |
| 02:38.30 | armin | (if no pulseaudio process comes along that is) |
| 02:38.46 | armin | what chip? |
| 02:38.54 | lotsoftuna | Realtek ALC275 |
| 02:39.13 | lotsoftuna | everything is muted |
| 02:39.41 | lotsoftuna | afaik |
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| 02:41.52 | armin | lotsoftuna: are you sure no pulseaudio process is running? |
| 02:42.30 | armin | lotsoftuna: i don't know enough about the alc275, does a 30 bucks usb sound card come to mind for you? then you could check out the behringer uca-222. |
| 02:42.35 | lotsoftuna | pulseaudio is running |
| 02:42.42 | lotsoftuna | This is mobo built in |
| 02:42.42 | armin | try without. |
| 02:42.52 | armin | then consider a behringer uca-222. |
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| 02:42.59 | armin | and just disable the onboard crap in bios. |
| 02:43.01 | lotsoftuna | I'd rather not |
| 02:43.26 | lotsoftuna | pulseaudio stop: too many args |
| 02:43.32 | armin | wat |
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| 02:43.53 | lotsoftuna | uh |
| 02:43.55 | armin | kill it, remove the possibility for it to be re-started. poettering software is all over the place. |
| 02:44.15 | armin | it will just be restarted once you start playing something. |
| 02:45.37 | armin | as i said, i just renamed /usr/bin/pulseaudio - i'm pretty sure this an evil and bad workaround and i shouldn't recommend this, but my audio problems are solved by this, on a lot of different setups. |
| 02:46.26 | armin | you should really try to get your systems up and running with alsa. if THAT works, you could consider pulseaudio, but not prior to this. |
| 02:47.20 | armin | reminds me of how systemd integrates with other part of the system, but i don't want to draw patterns here now. |
| 02:47.25 | armin | +s |
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| 02:48.13 | lotsoftuna | okay alsa works |
| 02:48.17 | lotsoftuna | Watching a video, works fine |
| 02:48.23 | armin | without systemd? |
| 02:48.27 | lotsoftuna | no idea |
| 02:48.29 | armin | err, without pulseaudio? |
| 02:48.34 | armin | brainfart. |
| 02:48.44 | lotsoftuna | no idea |
| 02:48.49 | lotsoftuna | don't know if I killed it or not |
| 02:49.03 | armin | check if it's running: ps auxwww | grep pulseaudio | grep -v grep |
| 02:49.35 | armin | if that doesn't output anything you're probably pulse-free right now. |
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| 02:51.06 | lotsoftuna | okay so |
| 02:51.12 | lotsoftuna | when I kill it, the youtube video stops |
| 02:51.14 | lotsoftuna | it just stops |
| 02:51.33 | lotsoftuna | and yeah, if I refresh it, it starts again |
| 02:51.40 | lotsoftuna | hold fuck, what is with this screen tearing on videos |
| 02:52.46 | armin | lotsoftuna: sure, an application won't have a fallback on alsa or so. if you start it with pulseaudio, it will keep thinking that pulseaudio is there and try to use it. you'll need to start fresh here after disabling pulse. |
| 02:52.53 | armin | whatever "disabling pulse" means, but yeah. |
| 02:53.21 | armin | the audio stack shouldn't affect screen tearing. that's a video driver thing. |
| 02:54.32 | lotsoftuna | I know, seperate |
| 02:54.39 | lotsoftuna | I just wanna fix the buzzing |
| 02:54.41 | lotsoftuna | that's it for now |
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| 02:56.13 | armin | lotsoftuna: get an uca-222 and test with that. also test without pulseaudio. |
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| 02:57.07 | lotsoftuna | why do you keep suggesting the usb |
| 02:57.15 | lotsoftuna | I need this to work without anything extra |
| 02:57.19 | lotsoftuna | worked fine before, now it's buzzing randomly |
| 02:57.37 | armin | because it's an excellent chip they build into it, it has good sound quality, and the card is very cheap and recommendable. |
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| 02:58.12 | lotsoftuna | Okay, but I don't really want that see |
| 02:58.20 | lotsoftuna | I just want to use my laptop, as the sole unit |
| 02:58.33 | armin | yeah, point. |
| 02:58.38 | lotsoftuna | I don't wanna have to take the soundcard with me anywhere I go JUST to get working audio without a buzz that SOMETIMES shows up at boot |
| 02:58.44 | lotsoftuna | and then SOMETIMES dissapears after boot |
| 02:58.50 | armin | yeah i see your point... |
| 02:58.51 | lotsoftuna | Need a fix that renders no buzz, ever |
| 02:58.55 | lotsoftuna | https://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad |
| 02:58.59 | lotsoftuna | This doesn't work afaik |
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| 02:59.09 | armin | lotsoftuna: so it happens only WHILE booting? |
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| 02:59.25 | lotsoftuna | It appears while booting |
| 02:59.29 | lotsoftuna | and is persistent after boot |
| 02:59.31 | lotsoftuna | well into the DE |
| 02:59.36 | armin | ah. |
| 02:59.52 | armin | well, disable pulse by renaming the binary, reboot your system, and see what happens. |
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| 03:03.22 | lotsoftuna | k |
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| 03:05.42 | lotsoftuna | uh |
| 03:05.47 | lotsoftuna | so pulse is "dead" I guess |
| 03:05.50 | lotsoftuna | not running after reboot |
| 03:05.56 | lotsoftuna | but I really don't know if tha buzz is gone or not |
| 03:06.00 | lotsoftuna | this is driving me insane |
| 03:06.46 | lotsoftuna | oh no |
| 03:06.49 | lotsoftuna | it's still there |
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| 03:17.10 | The_Photographer | Hi guys |
| 03:17.20 | The_Photographer | How I could see a incapsula origin ip? |
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| 03:18.27 | lotsoftuna | uh |
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| 03:26.35 | lotsoftuna | okay so.. idk if the crackling is gone, but new problem |
| 03:26.48 | lotsoftuna | When I mute, master gets muted, along with speaker |
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| 03:26.54 | lotsoftuna | But when I unmute, speaker stays muted |
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| 03:45.05 | abrotman | lazy8: you were already told |
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| 03:48.08 | AlexLikeRock | hekp |
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| 03:48.40 | AlexLikeRock | how to avoid "ask for a root password " at system-config-printer ??? |
| 03:52.49 | AlexLikeRock | must to add to "normar-user" ? |
| 03:53.10 | AlexLikeRock | or add normal user to group of CUPS |
| 03:53.13 | AlexLikeRock | ?? |
| 03:54.01 | lotsoftuna | sudo |
| 03:54.17 | lotsoftuna | or add user to cups group idk |
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| 04:46.37 | DDR | Hi all. I'm using Debian 8 with KDE as my desktop. If I want to run synaptic, my preferred package manager, as root, how would I do so? The obvious, kdesudo synaptic, produces an error along the lines of "No X authentication info set for display ":0"" I have never heard of this before, and, needless to say, can't find it in 'system settings'. |
| 04:46.57 | DDR | I did have a quick google, but none of the suggested solutions had any effect. |
| 04:47.50 | DDR | Indeed, the last one fucked up my sudoers file, which is odd because I had exited without saving from visudo. |
| 04:47.56 | DDR | Because I couldn't figure out how it worked. |
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| 04:48.07 | DDR | And I didn't make any changes. |
| 04:50.28 | beepie | DDR, bs |
| 04:50.38 | DDR | Yes, lots of it. |
| 04:51.19 | brian|lfs | oh just saw the chat and the name DDR it had me confused for a few. |
| 04:51.33 | beepie | DDR, visudo checks for proper syntax on exit(iirc) and prevents multiple admin users from editing the sudoers file at the same time |
| 04:52.12 | DDR | Yes. It said, 'syntax error, don't save'. So, I hit x to exit without saving, but I guess it saved. Or something else I tried broke it. |
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| 04:53.06 | kaiux | DDR: do you know your root password? |
| 04:53.07 | DDR | The file currently looks like {\n}, (with \n as a newline). |
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| 04:53.27 | DDR | No, but I can run root commands regardless. |
| 04:53.57 | kaiux | try to execute all the fix runing as root: su - root |
| 04:54.53 | DDR | I can't do that. I disabled root login a long time ago, and just use sudo for stuff. |
| 04:54.55 | themill | DDR: are you trying to run kdesudo as root or as your normal user? |
| 04:55.04 | DDR | I tried as my normal user. |
| 04:55.16 | DDR | Which worked until ~last week. |
| 04:55.25 | DDR | Sudo, as my normal user, works fine. |
| 04:55.28 | themill | in a freshly opened terminal? |
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| 04:56.38 | DDR | Well, as of last week. |
| 04:57.26 | themill | I mean, right now -- if you open a new terminal and type "kdesudo synaptic", does it work. |
| 04:57.51 | themill | and have you tried logging out or rebooting? |
| 04:58.13 | DDR | themill: http://www.pasteall.org/63221 |
| 04:58.34 | DDR | I'm extremely hesitant to log out until I get the second error fixed, with my sudoers file. |
| 04:58.47 | DDR | (A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, and all.) |
| 04:59.09 | DDR | However, I can confirm that rebooting does not fix the issue. I did try that. |
| 05:00.24 | beepie | DDR, so edit the um sudoers file |
| 05:00.57 | kaiux | DDR: sudo su - root and configure the file |
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| 05:01.27 | DDR | I can't, it's reported as read-only. |
| 05:01.37 | DDR | However, I can edit it with pkexec visudo. |
| 05:01.39 | beepie | if he's locked out completely to being root, he has to boot with a debian-installer and go into rescue mode |
| 05:02.37 | kaiux | are you using `vim' to edit this file? |
| 05:03.06 | kaiux | you can force write :wq! |
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| 05:03.59 | hanshenrik | is it actually doing an in-memory patching of the live kernel, or do i need a restart to star the new kernel here? http://pastebin.com/raw/TFh5Ec0t |
| 05:04.17 | DDR | oops. I hit ctrl-z and accdentally suspended the process, now I don't have permission to un-suspend it. |
| 05:04.28 | beepie | DDR, "fg |
| 05:04.31 | DDR | And I can't edit the sudoers file again because it's locked by the suspended process. |
| 05:04.33 | beepie | DDR, "<enter>" |
| 05:04.34 | DDR | Tried fg. |
| 05:04.40 | DDR | oh, wait. |
| 05:04.44 | beepie | DDR, well the problem here is you :) |
| 05:04.50 | kaiux | lol |
| 05:04.55 | DDR | Not *just* fg. I tried the process number too. :p |
| 05:05.03 | DDR | Yes, it usually is. |
| 05:05.18 | beepie | DDR, troll! |
| 05:05.28 | DDR | I'm close to the last person who should have admin access to a linux system, imo. But here I am. -_- |
| 05:05.35 | DDR | Just enough knowledge to be really dangerous. |
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| 05:06.53 | kaiux | the problem is not "enough", is the lack of knowledge |
| 05:06.58 | kaiux | ;) |
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| 05:08.51 | DDR | I added myself to the sudoers file I restored from an example. Apparently incorrectly, because I very carefully locked myself out of editing the sudoers file again. |
| 05:09.20 | DDR | I'm going to try booting into single-user mode now, and remove my edit. |
| 05:09.34 | svetlana | root password not working? |
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| 05:10.09 | DDR | No root password. |
| 05:10.15 | kaiux | DDR: you told us that you do not know the pass. this procedure will not work |
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| 05:10.50 | DDR | Single-user mode has never asked me for a password before, though? |
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| 05:10.56 | kaiux | are you able to run the following cmd? -> sudo su - root |
| 05:11.13 | DDR | Oh, uh. Yes. |
| 05:11.17 | DDR | What the heck. |
| 05:11.50 | DDR | Sudo works now, too. Perhaps I just had to wait a minute? |
| 05:11.58 | DDR | i am so, so confused |
| 05:12.34 | kaiux | dude! I have no idea what the heck are you trying to do. but please, update the sudoers file |
| 05:12.42 | DDR | -However-, looks like sudo, su -, and friends are back. |
| 05:12.52 | kaiux | vim /etc/sudoers |
| 05:13.33 | DDR | It's read-only, I don't think I'll be able to edit it. |
| 05:13.48 | DDR | Indeed, the file says "This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root." |
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| 05:14.08 | svetlana | log in as root, run 'visudo' |
| 05:14.36 | svetlana | oh no root password.. what version of debian is this |
| 05:14.47 | DDR | I disabled it, since I never used it. |
| 05:15.41 | kaiux | DDR: follow the white rabbit |
| 05:15.43 | DDR | Nonetheless, I'm editing visudo... Here's what the file looks like, I had added the last line just now. http://www.pasteall.org/63224 |
| 05:15.50 | kaiux | vim /etc/sudoers |
| 05:16.08 | kaiux | change whatever you wanna, and save as ":wq!" |
| 05:16.25 | DDR | kaiux: It keeps saying 'read-only'. I'm inclined to believe it. |
| 05:16.37 | DDR | visudo works, though. |
| 05:16.56 | DDR | svetlana: I can still log in as root via 'sudo su -'. |
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| 05:17.32 | kaiux | the wq! is like! "i dont care what you say, do as I said" |
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| 05:19.03 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 05:19.17 | johnfg | Got the system close to normal again. |
| 05:19.19 | DDR | kaiux: My filesystem said "I don't care what you said to do, you're not doing it until you have permission." |
| 05:19.22 | DDR | ie, E166: Can't open linked file for writing |
| 05:19.34 | DDR | er, less the linked bit. |
| 05:19.53 | DDR | (I was testing on a different file, one less critical.) |
| 05:20.01 | johnfg | One thing I still can't figure out...synaptic package manager has worked on the desktops, since way back, prior even to lenny! |
| 05:20.09 | johnfg | It worked on wheezy too. |
| 05:20.14 | DDR | Yeah. |
| 05:20.46 | DDR | I can start synaptic fine, but I can't give it the permissions it needs to actually make any changes. |
| 05:20.55 | johnfg | But now, running mate, it won't start from the System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager. |
| 05:21.00 | DDR | running 'synaptic' works fine. |
| 05:21.45 | DDR | Running 'kdesudo synaptic' says http://www.pasteall.org/63225, or in a nutshell, 'can't open :0'. |
| 05:21.52 | johnfg | No error when i select it from the menu, but it doesn't start. From the CLI, it asks me to authenticate, as expected. |
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| 05:22.15 | DDR | It does not prompt to authenticate for me via the command line, and it never started from the menu. |
| 05:22.18 | johnfg | DDR: Are you on plasma then? |
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| 05:22.33 | DDR | I believe so. |
| 05:22.39 | DDR | But I'm not 100% sure. |
| 05:23.39 | johnfg | I could start up lxde, that's my only other DE, and see if maybe this is a mate problem. But since you're on kde, i think probably not. |
| 05:24.43 | DDR | From what I've been reading, it's some issue with root not having permission to connect to X. However, I have no idea how to actually fix it, and past efforts have been... bad. |
| 05:25.22 | DDR | I suppose I could, theoretically, run sudo startx, in TTY1, but that strikes me as ... again, bad. |
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| 05:25.45 | DDR | The sort of thing that I've heard will mess up permissions on my config files. |
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| 05:27.33 | hyperborean | DDR: just use su to login as root in a terminal, dot start x session as root |
| 05:28.14 | DDR | I could, but I'd really like not to have a second copy of everything start up as well. |
| 05:28.41 | DDR | It would be much nicer if I could run, say, sudo synaptic in Konsole. |
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| 05:31.37 | hyperborean | DDR: ?? then use sudo...just edit the sudoers file first for your user and you are good to go |
| 05:32.22 | themill | DDR: sounds like fixing your sudoers is necessary; or use gksudo instead |
| 05:32.25 | themill | or both |
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| 05:32.35 | DDR | hyperborean: I'm trying to use sudo. However, any command that would normally open up an x window, such as 'synaptic' or 'kate', does not work with sudo. |
| 05:33.00 | DDR | themill: I believe I have fixed sudoers. |
| 05:33.10 | DDR | Insofar as I can sudo stuff. |
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| 05:33.19 | DDR | gksudo does not exist. |
| 05:33.24 | themill | installit! |
| 05:33.37 | DDR | But isn't gksudo for gnome, where kdesudo is for kde? |
| 05:33.47 | themill | both should work |
| 05:33.55 | themill | ,i gksu |
| 05:33.56 | judd | Package gksu (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: graphical front-end to su and sudo. Version: 2.0.2-9; Size: 70.9k; Installed: 460k; Homepage: http://www.nongnu.org/gksu; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/gksu |
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| 05:34.34 | hyperborean | DDR: use kdesu |
| 05:34.56 | DDR | kdesu does not exist; I've been using kdesudo. |
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| 05:35.38 | DDR | Searching for it gives libkdesu5 and kdesudo. |
| 05:35.46 | DDR | (In my package manager.) |
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| 05:36.17 | hyperborean | DDR: so if you have kdesudo whats the problem? |
| 05:36.57 | AlexLikeRock | usermod -a -G lpadmin User-name |
| 05:36.59 | themill | DDR: can you pastebin the entirety of "echo $USER; echo $DISPLAY; xauth list $DISPLAY; kdesudo konsole" for me? |
| 05:37.01 | DDR | kdesudo can't open graphical programs, such as Kate or Synaptic. For example, http://www.pasteall.org/63221 |
| 05:37.01 | AlexLikeRock | then ... |
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| 05:37.15 | AlexLikeRock | # groups |
| 05:37.15 | AlexLikeRock | root adm disk pulse pulse-access |
| 05:37.21 | AlexLikeRock | not appear |
| 05:37.31 | themill | AlexLikeRock: log out and then log back in |
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| 05:37.57 | AlexLikeRock | or restart cups ? |
| 05:38.24 | stew | root? |
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| 05:38.41 | AlexLikeRock | no, normal user stew |
| 05:39.04 | stew | why is the normal user in the root group |
| 05:39.11 | AlexLikeRock | no |
| 05:39.21 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.24 | DDR | themill: http://www.pasteall.org/63226 |
| 05:39.34 | themill | AlexLikeRock: check what you pasted in to the channel earlier. |
| 05:39.40 | stew | AlexLikeRock: what is "root adm disk pulse pulse-access" a list of? |
| 05:39.55 | themill | DDR: what display manager do you use, kdm? |
| 05:40.02 | DDR | Yes. |
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| 05:40.24 | themill | DDR: in which case /home/david/.Xauthority should exist. Did you delete it? |
| 05:40.44 | DDR | I must have, considering it's not there. |
| 05:40.50 | DDR | But I can't imagine when or why. |
| 05:40.52 | themill | DDR: you'll need to log out and log in again |
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| 05:43.48 | DDR | Well. Works a treat now. |
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| 05:44.22 | DDR | Which is strange, because I've tried that a couple of times this week... I thought. O_o |
| 05:44.44 | DDR | Perhaps I deleted it unknowingly several times. |
| 05:45.10 | DDR | However, it works now. Thank you, themill. |
| 05:45.14 | beepie | i cant believe you're still on this DDR |
| 05:45.24 | beepie | ok you got it finally XD |
| 05:45.26 | beepie | lol |
| 05:45.32 | DDR | beepie: I reinstalled Ubuntu for a week, once. |
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| 05:47.04 | beepie | DDR, so i suppose you never used things like mcedit or "le" these can be resourceful if you're not used to vi and emacs .. |
| 05:47.24 | beepie | DDR, these are easier editors |
| 05:47.34 | beepie | DDR, this is your week#2 using linux? |
| 05:47.50 | DDR | I'm actually somewhat capable with vim, in that I can insert, delete, and save a file without looking up the commands. |
| 05:47.59 | DDR | Like... tenth year? |
| 05:48.45 | DDR | IIRC, I was still in elementary school. |
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| 05:49.19 | DDR | I just usually stay away from command-line and sysadmin stuff. |
| 05:49.48 | DDR | export $EDITOR=subl, and so on. (or something like that) |
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| 05:51.24 | DDR | I'm about two weeks into Debian, though, having used various ubuntu-based systems before that. I'm now the sysadmin for a commercial venture which will remain unnamed, which, given today, scares the shit out of me. |
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| 05:53.55 | DDR | Anyway; thanks for the help today, everyone. |
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| 05:58.09 | beepie | yeah you can do that too |
| 05:58.19 | beepie | DDR, you place EDITOR= in .bashrc |
| 05:58.35 | beepie | or possibly ~/.profile |
| 05:59.19 | DDR | I placed it in one of those two places. It's really convenient. |
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| 06:02.46 | beepie | the alternative which i use is just to make a symlink in ~/bin/editor :) |
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| 06:03.23 | DDR | Hunh. I guess that's a bit less obvious, though. |
| 06:03.30 | beepie | you can use this as well -- or you can also do -> update-alternatives --config editor, -- editor is also a symlink globally for users, but you can override it like 3 ways per user |
| 06:04.08 | beepie | which editor-> points to /etc/alternatives/editor |
| 06:04.15 | beepie | nm :) |
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| 06:04.49 | beepie | DDR, you using linux for how long? |
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| 06:07.23 | DDR | Probably a bit over a decade now. |
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| 06:07.36 | nevyn | beepie: eww.. |
| 06:07.45 | nevyn | update-alternative --config console-text-editor |
| 06:07.48 | DDR | Though I've only somewhat recently had a look at the sysadmin side of things. |
| 06:08.59 | DDR | Gnome 2 seemed so futuristic, once, I remember. :) |
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| 06:11.02 | beepie | nevyn, you can't be using debian! ;-) |
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| 06:12.12 | beepie | DDR, they use linux in elementary schools? where? |
| 06:12.21 | beepie | DDR, nm :) |
| 06:12.29 | beepie | good luck with that folks.. |
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| 06:12.34 | DDR | beepie: They actually do, in British Columbia. |
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| 06:12.52 | DDR | High school, too. The education system didn't want to be paying for those Windows licences. |
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| 06:13.34 | DDR | My high school was still using '98 when Vista came out, though. They upgraded to, I think Ubuntu, the year after I graduated. |
| 06:15.19 | vvande | DDR: where in BC is that? This is news to me. |
| 06:15.56 | DDR | School district 73, which covers most of the interior region. |
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| 06:16.39 | vvande | it's been some years since my kid was in school in Vancouver, but they were mostly Mac back then. |
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| 06:17.23 | DDR | Nice. |
| 06:17.49 | vvande | I wasn't impressed |
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| 06:18.04 | DDR | I had to use a mac for work, last year. I wasn't, either, actually. :p |
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| 06:18.37 | vvande | I'm sure they're OK in lots of ways. I can't figure them out though. Too much pictures, so WOW. |
| 06:18.42 | DDR | Yeah. |
| 06:19.03 | vvande | and proprietary, which turns my stomach |
| 06:19.16 | hyperborean | actually I switched to macs from linux around 2002 and around 2013 switched back to linux heh |
| 06:19.17 | DDR | I missed my sticky windows, my compose keys, and the menu bars were weird and large. |
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| 06:19.39 | DDR | I will say, though, high-dpi support on linux is kind of a dog compared to Mac and Windows. |
| 06:19.40 | vvande | and the people who buy them don't get their problems solved, and can't figure it out eithere |
| 06:20.07 | hyperborean | vvande: usually people who buy them dont have many problems with them |
| 06:20.10 | vvande | lots of things on Linux are not up to snuff yet. I gladly do without, because my principles come first. |
| 06:20.28 | hyperborean | that was the point of switching back then |
| 06:21.26 | vvande | hyperborean: well I used to think so too, but recently have encounetered a lot of local users, and they get stuck on things like e-mail and "files". That's their lack, of course, and they would be equally lost on anything else. But they didn't get what they were hoping for. |
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| 06:22.01 | vvande | hyperborean: don't know what you mean. i've never "switched back" |
| 06:22.02 | DDR | On my macbook pro, the power key was right next to the backspace key. I hit it a lot. But it would just power off the PC, it wouldn't prompt or anything. |
| 06:22.18 | DDR | I ended up installing a memory hacking tool to turn off the key entirely. |
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| 06:22.40 | DDR | But I really, strongly feel I shouldn't have to alter the running memory of my OS to do something like that. |
| 06:22.42 | vvande | FreeBSD apparently runs well on Mac hardware. |
| 06:22.58 | DDR | The whole Apple attitude of 'we know best' really sucked. |
| 06:23.36 | DDR | And, quite frankly, their design has gone down the tubes. |
| 06:24.28 | hyperborean | vvande: well basically i went away from linux (used it for 5 years) because I was fed up with constantly configuring my system and trying to support this and that. so I switched to macs. os x was really nice and everything worked. but later I started to dislike the way os x developed and also abhor apples politics with itunes etc so i went back to linux |
| 06:25.29 | vvande | hyperborean: I see. Good for for swithing back. To me it's nor about badmouthing MAC, but just that proprietary OSs are not cool. |
| 06:26.11 | DDR | Windows 10 is cool on the surface, but it's *really* share-y with what I'd consider my private data. |
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| 06:26.29 | vvande | I actually use FreeBSD on my daily driver now, and have for some years. I just started looking in here because I know Debian quite well and run it on most of my servers. |
| 06:26.56 | DDR | (bbiab) |
| 06:27.27 | hyperborean | vvande: I agree now. But back than I just wanted to get shit done not burn up in dependency hell heh...but today i feel stronger about it. So yeah, it is debian all the way now. Though I am really unhappy with the systemd move |
| 06:28.15 | nevyn | really? |
| 06:28.20 | vvande | The systemd move is what I saw coming, along with more Windows like stuff, and therefore moved to FreBSD. I still love Debian though. |
| 06:28.20 | nevyn | is optimistic |
| 06:28.38 | nevyn | but I guess I like pulseaudio |
| 06:29.03 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 06:29.26 | vvande | puseaudio is probably better now, but it's bitten me too often to dare try it again. Once burned twice shy. |
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| 06:29.59 | k_sze | Just me dependency resolution for dkms-related stuff can be broken during dist-upgrade? |
| 06:30.35 | hyperborean | vvande: well I installed jessie two weeks ago ion this laptop...had a problem with systemd (would not boot my encrypted homedirve) tried to fix it, there was no way...so I decided since I dont want to use any other linux distro lets put freebsd on it. worked reasonably well but could not get my x windows to work. it started but the screen was unlit...so i could see something but heh with a flashlight . |
| 06:30.41 | hyperborean | ..so went back and installed jessie with sysv init here |
| 06:31.01 | themill | hyperborean: systemd handles encrypted drives just fine |
| 06:31.08 | k_sze | e.g. I have zfs-dkms, which depends on spl-dkms, but dist-upgrade tries to process zfs-dkms first, and fails that, and then it processes spl-dkms, so I had to re-run dist-upgrade. |
| 06:32.42 | themill | k_sze: failures to build modules with dkms shouldn't cause the installation to fail but you may have to go back and make dkms have another go. zfs-dkms isn't in debian though so I don't know what it's issue is. |
| 06:32.43 | vvande | hyperborean: there was something about the screen backlight on the FreeBSD forum recently. Anyway, Deb is fine. :) |
| 06:33.43 | themill | k_sze: but yes, the dependencies can't be put in place so as to ensure that the headers are available to actually build the modules so there can be some faffing about |
| 06:33.56 | hyperborean | themill: it does. on my other two boxes i have jessie with systemd and they run like a swiss watch. on this one systemd hanged itself after two *different* fresh installs at different points. the one was after decrypting swap and before decrypting home and on other one it was on wifi driver (sometimes it worked but took two minutes, sometimes it was loading it for 10 minutes). this was very unpredictab |
| 06:34.02 | hyperborean | le and unaceptable |
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| 06:36.47 | hyperborean | vvande: was not me. i really like freebsd and this is what I run on a server, but for desktop debian is the thing for me ;) since hamm |
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| 06:40.32 | vvande | hyperborean: yep, realized my misunderstanding. :) |
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| 06:43.25 | k_sze | And now dist-upgrade gives me errors for squid3 and squid-deb-proxy |
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| 06:45.56 | themill | k_sze: upgrading from what to what? what errors? |
| 06:49.26 | k_sze | themill: dist-upgrading from wheezy to jessie, I forget what version of squid3 was in wheezy. |
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| 06:51.59 | ShadeS | so uh is systemd the equiv to systemctl? |
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| 06:54.58 | eclectichedgehog | k_sze: what error does apt report when upgrading squid? |
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| 06:55.53 | ShadeS | anyone know? systemd/systemctl? |
| 06:55.53 | eclectichedgehog | systemctl is part of systemd |
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| 06:56.06 | awal1 | ShadeS: systemctl "Control the systemd system and service manager" |
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| 06:56.26 | awal1 | man systemctl |
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| 06:58.43 | eclectichedgehog | wonders if man will get replaced by a gender neutral term? |
| 06:59.22 | ShadeS | manual is the full word |
| 06:59.57 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: yes, i do know this... |
| 07:01.04 | ShadeS | eclectichedgehog: if you learn enough languages you'll find that eventually one spelling of something is going to upset someone else if not create a funny scenario http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2013/07/15/asiania_ktvu_lawsuit_airline_to_sue_network_for_sum_ting_wong_wi_tu_lo_ho/Asiana.png.CROP.thumbnail-small.png |
| 07:01.51 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: lol yeah |
| 07:03.32 | awal1 | !lol |
| 07:03.32 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 07:04.47 | tasaif | dpkg, yea well, that's just like your opinion, man lol |
| 07:04.48 | dpkg | tasaif: i haven't a clue |
| 07:05.00 | tasaif | figures its a bot |
| 07:05.02 | tasaif | !lol |
| 07:05.02 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 07:05.06 | tasaif | !heh |
| 07:05.06 | dpkg | Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work. "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such. |
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| 07:11.55 | awal1 | tasaif, if you want you can message dpkg and play with it in private. It's funny |
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| 07:12.15 | tasaif | awal1, thanks :) |
| 07:12.57 | awal1 | just do /msg dpkg your-question |
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| 07:14.33 | tasaif | is there a list of all of the commands? |
| 07:15.15 | ShadeS | I have a stockinstall so I guess I should want to apt-get systemd |
| 07:15.17 | ShadeS | for reloading services |
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| 07:16.58 | awal1 | ShadeS: apt-get systemd? |
| 07:17.14 | ShadeS | that's what I already did |
| 07:17.36 | awal1 | you mean install it? |
| 07:17.59 | ShadeS | i just downloaded systemd but it turns out i might not have needed it to reload services |
| 07:19.35 | awal1 | ShadeS: you are not using systemd by default? still with Potato? :) |
| 07:20.54 | ShadeS | idk what potato is i haven't used debian much |
| 07:20.59 | ShadeS | last distro i used was gentoo |
| 07:21.05 | ShadeS | now I'm on debian |
| 07:21.20 | ShadeS | i just apt-got systemd |
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| 07:21.32 | ShadeS | now when i try to sudo service ssh restart i'm gave an error |
| 07:22.08 | ShadeS | Restarting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.serviceFailed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/systemd/private: No such file or directory |
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| 07:24.01 | awal1 | Systemd is installed by default as default init system on a standard debian install since jessie. have you did a custom installation so? |
| 07:24.08 | awal1 | ShadeS ^ |
| 07:25.00 | ShadeS | a friend threw me an ip for a fresh server to futz around with |
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| 07:26.21 | Mattx | Heeey there! |
| 07:26.41 | Mattx | Any native English speaker around? I've a quick offtopic question |
| 07:27.28 | ShadeS | awal1: well I did an apt-get of systemd because i didn't see it on there |
| 07:27.32 | ShadeS | I invoked it wrong |
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| 07:27.43 | ShadeS | was having a hard time killing the borked window had to kill the terminal |
| 07:28.47 | ShadeS | i changed my sshd config to not allow remote root logins and iw as then now trying to restart sshd via a few things |
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| 07:30.07 | ShadeS | when I try to run systemctl: ailed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/systemd/private: No such file or directory as per: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd |
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| 07:31.49 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: sounds like something might be missing, run a apt-get -f install |
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| 07:36.20 | ShadeS | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 07:36.28 | ShadeS | eclectichedgehog: what else can be the deal? |
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| 07:36.59 | ShadeS | invoke-rc.d ssh restart fails too |
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| 07:37.16 | ShadeS | starting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.serviceFailed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /run/systemd/private: No such file or directory |
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| 07:38.19 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: can you not purge ssh and reinstall? |
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| 07:40.16 | ShadeS | uh i only have access to the box remotely |
| 07:40.23 | ShadeS | if i purged ssh i would lock myself out |
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| 07:41.18 | eclectichedgehog | ah ok, it look like a systemd thing anyway |
| 07:41.33 | eclectichedgehog | what version of debian, jessie? |
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| 07:42.35 | ShadeS | uname gives me: 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:43.08 | eclectichedgehog | try cat /etc/issue |
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| 07:47.42 | Aebian | seems Jessie but to be sure run the command that electic posted |
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| 07:49.04 | towo^work | kernel 3.2.x was wheezy |
| 07:49.21 | towo^work | jessie has 3.16.x |
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| 07:50.03 | eclectichedgehog | yeah i think its wheezy |
| 07:50.22 | eclectichedgehog | and thats why he was attempting to install systemd |
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| 07:56.08 | ShadeS | eclectichedgehog: Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l |
| 07:56.33 | Macgyver0 | lol I'd attempt to install bsd init |
| 07:56.36 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: yes so its wheezy |
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| 07:57.24 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: from memory systemd in wheezy was a bit of a hit or miss affair |
| 07:57.24 | ShadeS | ok |
| 07:57.30 | ShadeS | damnit |
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| 07:58.00 | eclectichedgehog | you can probably rid systemd |
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| 07:59.20 | eclectichedgehog | the following works on jessie/sid so no guarantees |
| 07:59.29 | eclectichedgehog | apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils |
| 07:59.42 | eclectichedgehog | cp /usr/share/sysvinit/inittab /etc/inittab |
| 07:59.59 | eclectichedgehog | reboot |
| 08:00.12 | eclectichedgehog | after reboot, apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd |
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| 08:00.32 | eclectichedgehog | as i said i cannot guarantee success |
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| 08:01.00 | eclectichedgehog | i have done it with a jessie and sid install but had local access |
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| 08:02.07 | eclectichedgehog | as your install seems semi broken there could be additional issues |
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| 08:04.49 | eclectichedgehog | you could possibly try dpkg-reconfigure systemd |
| 08:05.36 | eclectichedgehog | that might put right what is messed up |
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| 08:13.28 | ShadeS | the server is in another country |
| 08:13.39 | ShadeS | my friend just got online asked him to do it |
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| 08:15.16 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: can you do a dpkg -l | grep systemd |
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| 08:15.40 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: just post the output for systemd package itself |
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| 08:18.03 | ShadeS | eclectichedgehog: ther eare three entries regarding systemd |
| 08:18.44 | ShadeS | 4 actually libsystemd-* 1) daemon0:amd64 2) id128-8:amd64 3)journal0:amd64 && 4) login0:amd64 |
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| 08:18.57 | KKKTRIPLEK | the problem with niggers is that they expect handouts for something white people and niggers have no involvement in |
| 08:19.01 | KKKTRIPLEK | white people haven't owned niggers for a very long time |
| 08:19.04 | rww | !ops |
| 08:19.04 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 08:19.24 | KKKTRIPLEK | niggers haven't been slaves nor useful for a very long time |
| 08:20.34 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: i just need the package version for systemd - it follows the package name(s) on the output |
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| 08:21.37 | ShadeS | eclectichedgehog: : 44-11+deb7u4 ?? |
| 08:22.29 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: ok yeah thats the "way out of date" wheezy version. |
| 08:23.42 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: maybe you want to read the following and try a newer version, which hopefully will install correctly. |
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| 08:24.06 | eclectichedgehog | ShadeS: https://scottlinux.com/2014/10/20/how-to-switch-to-systemd-on-debian-wheezy/ |
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| 08:34.12 | sumi | hello |
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| 08:43.36 | ShadeS | if i have a ssh session to my server, and that session kills, when i log back into the server and do a history all the commands I ran while I was in the first session aren't there |
| 08:43.40 | ShadeS | is there a way to recover this? |
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| 08:50.27 | inframare | ShadeS: Check the permissions on ~/.bash_history , verify/set the HISTFILE/HISTSIZE/HISTFILESIZE environment variables, and that 'shopt -s histappend' is being set in your ~/.bashrc |
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| 08:52.43 | ShadeS | ah i guess i should't have saved my log as bash_history |
| 08:52.47 | ShadeS | *.bash_history |
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| 08:53.54 | ShadeS | i will move that .bash_history to a new .bash-hist-log |
| 08:54.03 | ShadeS | and i should probably touch .bash_history now |
| 08:54.20 | inframare | ShadeS: ah lol :) If its still not saving is because its only writing the history on session termination, you can export PROMPT_COMMAND='history -a' in order to make it save on every command |
| 08:54.38 | ShadeS | i'm tno sure what this shopt -s histappend is |
| 08:54.55 | ShadeS | now my .bash_history is a new file |
| 08:54.56 | ShadeS | what now |
| 08:55.11 | ShadeS | veryify/set the HISTFILE/HISTSIZE/HISTFILESIZE i'm not sure how to set these env vars |
| 08:55.33 | inframare | ShadeS: The .bash_history file will be overwritten by independant sessions if the histappend is not set |
| 08:56.21 | inframare | ShadeS: They should be set in your ~/.bashrc, just 'echo $VARIABLE' to check its content |
| 08:56.48 | ShadeS | echo $VARIABLE into the console gives me a blank line |
| 08:57.22 | inframare | $VARIABLE was a placeholder for $HISTFILE OR $HISTSIZE etc |
| 08:57.24 | jusabatier | Hello, I try to create a custom iso of Debian Jessie with simple-cdd and preseed, is it possible to auto start the install in the first screen (Install, Graphic Install, ...) ? |
| 08:57.25 | ShadeS | i see histfile is 1000 histfilesize is 2000 are these in kb? |
| 08:57.29 | inframare | Must off, good luck ;) |
| 08:58.05 | inframare | ShadeS: lines ;) |
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| 08:58.29 | venkat_330 | pamditherbw missing from netpm in jessie |
| 08:58.38 | venkat_330 | any clues please |
| 08:58.40 | ShadeS | ok I added another 0 on them for good measure |
| 08:59.14 | ShadeS | now... I leave this "PROMPT_COMMAND='history -a'" in the console or in my .bashrc? |
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| 09:02.27 | ShadeS | inframare: ?? |
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| 09:09.40 | Voidous | Yo |
| 09:09.45 | Voidous | This is a problem |
| 09:09.48 | Voidous | I've never had |
| 09:09.54 | Voidous | I set up a debian |
| 09:09.55 | Voidous | vm |
| 09:10.11 | Voidous | and I set up ssh postfix mysql dovecot |
| 09:10.20 | Voidous | so I'm trying to SSH to it |
| 09:10.33 | Voidous | and I have the password right after I physically accessed it |
| 09:10.44 | Voidous | but when I try sshing |
| 09:10.44 | Voidous | it |
| 09:10.59 | Voidous | it tells me I have the wrong password |
| 09:11.27 | Voidous | I also used nmap to see if the port is open |
| 09:11.44 | Voidous | I wrote an IPtables rule to accept all incoming connections |
| 09:12.40 | ShadeS | inframare: looks like that shopt cmd was in there already |
| 09:13.41 | verwilst | could somebody explain to me what --use-pdebuild-internal does? :-) |
| 09:13.53 | ShadeS | but not this history -a i don't think |
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| 09:14.12 | verwilst | if i use the flag with pdebuild, it installs the build-dependencies first, if i don't, it doesn't and my build fails because of missing deps |
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| 09:30.26 | b00s3d | goodmorning/eve/midday fellas :) |
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| 09:30.59 | b00s3d | i am here to ask if Debian comes with a luks setup guide, or its something that has to be done manuelly |
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| 09:35.52 | Stummi | b00s3d, the DI can setup a luks |
| 09:36.01 | b00s3d | DI? |
| 09:36.18 | Stummi | The Debian Installer. |
| 09:36.33 | b00s3d | awesome! |
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| 09:37.49 | b00s3d | can you please tell me if i waste an dvd by burning the debian jessie image onto it. do i have to download any special version or addon or somethine like that?? :) |
| 09:38.35 | Stummi | no, just download the image, when you step through the installer, while setting up the partitions it gives you the option to set up encrypted partitions |
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| 09:38.50 | b00s3d | will netinst do? |
| 09:38.54 | Stummi | lvm+encrypted is probably what you want |
| 09:38.56 | b00s3d | k |
| 09:39.02 | b00s3d | yeah 100% |
| 09:39.02 | Stummi | yes, netinstall too |
| 09:39.14 | b00s3d | alright awesome thanks for fast reply Stummi :) |
| 09:39.17 | b00s3d | appriciate it |
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| 09:59.57 | jar19 | hi |
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| 10:00.28 | jar19 | an Alpha Network would be a good USB wireless adapter for a Debian ? I need a good one (usb) with a driver supported by debian |
| 10:00.29 | kottlett | hi! I'm looking to improve the output of /dev/random. is there any chance that installing the intel-microcode or firmware-linux packages will allow me to use some default hw rng of the chipset? |
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| 10:03.04 | b00s3d | Stummi: are there away to change the partition size? :) |
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| 10:04.06 | bellodinotte | ciao |
| 10:04.09 | bellodinotte | come va ? |
| 10:04.19 | bellodinotte | borcoilmadonna |
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| 10:08.32 | Stummi | b00s3d, probably, but I haven't used the installer for long time |
| 10:08.54 | b00s3d | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:14.36 | roylaprattep | Who is using ClamAV here ? |
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| 10:16.52 | b00s3d | i got it installed yep |
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| 10:23.11 | b00s3d | do any debian users in here know of anyway to (*simply*) resize the "entire disk encryption" so it won't take all the space on the drive? |
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| 10:23.50 | roylaprattep | b00s3d: Do you know if its good to add testing repo only to install the 0.99 version anf after return to jessie repo ? |
| 10:24.21 | roylaprattep | I'm tired of seeing the warning about 0.98 version when freshclam is running |
| 10:24.24 | b00s3d | its that a real question or ? |
| 10:24.30 | roylaprattep | yup. |
| 10:24.42 | roylaprattep | sorry if i ask. |
| 10:24.51 | roylaprattep | there channel is not here for that ? |
| 10:24.56 | roylaprattep | this* |
| 10:25.19 | roylaprattep | sorry not to know. |
| 10:25.46 | roylaprattep | thanks for let me feel being stupid. |
| 10:25.51 | roylaprattep | :) |
| 10:26.15 | roylaprattep | Anyway, it's always like this, here. |
| 10:26.44 | Aebian | not that I'm aware of lol |
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| 10:27.24 | b00s3d | i don't really know roylaprattep, i am also here to ask questions :P :) |
| 10:27.52 | jar19 | an Alpha Network would be a good USB wireless adapter for a Debian ? I need a good one (usb) with a driver supported by debian |
| 10:27.59 | roylaprattep | Ok, I was thinking you were laughing at me. lol |
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| 10:31.56 | b00s3d | lol no way, i am watching this movie: "Capital Punishment", its f****** awesome! |
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| 10:32.20 | b00s3d | it has some true and good points when you watch above the primitive vilance |
| 10:32.23 | morf | is it about debian? |
| 10:32.41 | b00s3d | yeah morf this is the officel channel |
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| 10:33.03 | morf | the movie genius |
| 10:33.19 | morf | ah why do i care anyway |
| 10:34.47 | roylaprattep | hahaha |
| 10:34.58 | revolve | out of curiosity does anyone know when python was first included with debian? |
| 10:35.17 | roylaprattep | yeah its like that here. nothing except debian. *Sigh* |
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| 10:36.19 | roylaprattep | we can't have friendly discussions. ;) |
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| 10:39.29 | morf | friend? discussion? are you mad? :) |
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| 10:40.05 | b00s3d | could be cool to do ramdisk of netinst |
| 10:40.22 | sep | roylaprattep, sure there is #debian-offtopic for that. |
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| 10:43.41 | whatsfallout | Hello everyone, and happy new year. How can I make more than partitions in Debian? Y have sda1 sda2, and 100GB free, that I nee to split in 4 partitions, like so: sda3 sda4 sda5 sda6. When I try to do that I am told "No free sectors availale" |
| 10:43.50 | whatsfallout | available * |
| 10:44.14 | jelly | roylaprattep: it's almost never a good idea to install something from testing onto an installation of stable |
| 10:44.50 | roylaprattep | jelly: That's what I tought. Thanks bud. |
| 10:44.58 | jelly | wait until the newer version appears in jessie-updates or jessie-backports |
| 10:45.17 | roylaprattep | I'll stay with the 0.98 and the annoying freshclam warning. |
| 10:47.18 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: try gparted |
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| 10:51.37 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: |
| 10:51.55 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: The problem is that is a server, and I do not had the KVM attached I would need to call the DC to do it for me. |
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| 10:52.43 | croup | I have an icedove-related situation here: The windowbar in icedove is gone. I narrowed it down to some settings in my profile(.icedove/). But it's not "prefs.js" neither "extensions.json". |
| 10:52.43 | croup | I have a manual installation of "thunderbird" for testing. If I just copy my profile-folder, the titlebar also disapears in thunderbird. Now I'm taking it apart file by file to find the error. Ah, and no, it's not |
| 10:52.43 | croup | "mail.tabs.drawInTitlebar", true - already tried to change that. Someone any idea where else the titlebar could be misconfigured? |
| 10:53.31 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: ah, hmm how did you tried to partition it then? |
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| 10:54.40 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: cfdisk |
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| 10:55.36 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: I have 110GB available, so I can easily create a/two partition(s), no more than that |
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| 10:57.01 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: the available partitions are primary or logical? |
| 10:57.15 | whatsfallout | Primary |
| 10:57.25 | whatsfallout | I think that's the problem |
| 10:57.46 | hyperborean | yeah you can have only 4 primary partitions |
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| 10:58.24 | hyperborean | do them as logical and it should be fine |
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| 10:59.11 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: Thanks mate....... Any idea how can I change the partition to logical on a server which is on? Meaning, with mounted disks |
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| 11:00.39 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: well dont worry about changing, you have 3 primary already so do the other as logical, should work...use perted |
| 11:00.53 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: I tried creating partitions in a partition, like /dev/sda3 => /dev/sda3p1 ... /dev/sda3p4, and it worked, but I cannot format them |
| 11:01.23 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: cool let me check that I do not know perted |
| 11:01.35 | croup | whatsfallout: I think you would have to stop every service running from it, unmount and go to work. |
| 11:01.57 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: create new partitions on the free space, not on the ones you already have |
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| 11:02.31 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: yea I know, I was just giving it a shot like that. I rolled back already |
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| 11:14.37 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: the command would be "parted mkpart" is that right? How can I specify the size? |
| 11:15.19 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: I dont really remember tbh, I use it so little that I always look it up in the manpage |
| 11:16.07 | whatsfallout | ok let me have a look, I know that for logical is something like "parted mkpart logical" and then some digits that I do no know what they are |
| 11:18.55 | feisar | whatsfallout: it might be easier to boot from an Ubuntu live CD and use GParted on there |
| 11:19.57 | whatsfallout | feisar: I know mate, the problem is that the server is in the Data Center, and I would need to call to ask them to connect the KVM, and they charge for everything |
| 11:20.14 | feisar | ah! fair enough |
| 11:20.23 | croup | hyperborean/whatsfallout: is there a reason not to use fdisk and put the filesystem with mkfs.ext... on it?! |
| 11:21.04 | feisar | croup: no that's the way I'd do it (or gdisk) |
| 11:21.05 | hyperborean | croup: no reason at all, there are many ways to skin a cat :) |
| 11:21.20 | croup | :-) |
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| 11:22.03 | croup | fdisk is sinple and self-explanatory ;-) |
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| 11:32.35 | whatsfallout | croup: I does not work |
| 11:33.17 | whatsfallout | croup/hypeborean: we found a solution we erased the swap that was extended, and in there we created the partitions and swap |
| 11:34.19 | hyperborean | whatsfallout: great that it worked out! |
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| 11:40.21 | whatsfallout | hyperborean: thanks man |
| 11:41.05 | b00s3d | is it possible to create a (USB) bootable ramdisk with network installer (Debian) |
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| 11:50.33 | croup | whatsfallout: Good it worked out and thanks for the folowup. |
| 11:51.00 | whatsfallout | croup: thanks man |
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| 11:53.55 | croup | b00s3d: You mean like a usb stick to boot from?! But running the system from memory?! Knoppix is definitely able to do that. |
| 11:54.19 | morf | magic... |
| 11:55.15 | b00s3d | croup no.. i mean Debian 8 NetInstall on a usb, that is booted into ram so i can remove the usb stick or install it on the usb stick without failed the installation |
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| 11:55.49 | croup | b00s3d: Capice. |
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| 12:07.58 | croup | b00s3d: Maybe still use the workaround booting first into knoppix, loading it into ram and installing debian from within knoppix. As I do not know of a way to just load the debian installer into ram. |
| 12:07.58 | croup | Of course that's.... bloaty :-| - But wait,for shure it's possible. I found this from 2010 through google: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=49345 |
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| 12:19.35 | croup | fatar12: maybe graphics driver fail? Check your card: lspci | grep -i vga and the used driver: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' |
| 12:19.56 | pragomer_1 | sorry. could someone help me configure my debian 8.2 lxde autologin? tried EVERY tutorial I found in the web... but no success |
| 12:20.48 | teraflops | pragomer_1: autologin via session manager o via startx? |
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| 12:21.13 | pragomer_1 | I have lightdm.. and tried e.g. this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_autologin |
| 12:21.17 | Spotify | [ LightDM - ArchWiki ] - wiki.archlinux.org |
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| 12:21.31 | at0m | ,v freewheeling |
| 12:21.32 | judd | Package: freewheeling on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6-1+b2; wheezy: 0.6-1.1+b1; stretch: 0.6-2+b2; sid: 0.6-2+b2; jessie: 0.6-2+b2 |
| 12:21.38 | pragomer_1 | yes, tried the archlinux wiki |
| 12:22.04 | pragomer_1 | no effect :-( |
| 12:22.17 | teraflops | 13:23:02 teraflops ⸠pragomer_1: autologin via session manager o via startx? |
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| 12:23.22 | pragomer_1 | via session manager I think. I am using lightdm |
| 12:23.36 | pragomer_1 | how can I find out the session number (e.g. 0 or 1 ) |
| 12:25.05 | fatar12 | croup: first command answer is identical to before the issue, second command gives me kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci |
| 12:25.07 | mmwolbrink | Add the following to lightdm.com |
| 12:25.09 | mmwolbrink | [SeatDefaults] |
| 12:25.09 | mmwolbrink | autologin-user=<YOUR USER> |
| 12:25.09 | mmwolbrink | autologin-user-timeout=0 |
| 12:25.09 | mmwolbrink | user-session=ubuntu |
| 12:25.09 | mmwolbrink | greeter-session=unity-greeter |
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| 12:26.06 | pragomer_1 | really "unity-greeter" ? |
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| 12:27.04 | pragomer_1 | ok.. trying that.. do I have do do anything else than save the file and reboot? |
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| 12:28.42 | pragomer_1 | wow... mmwolbrink... that was it |
| 12:29.03 | pragomer_1 | worked. I thought "unity-greeter" is about ubuntu and unity-desktop.. and did not use that.. |
| 12:29.54 | fatar12 | croup: I did try to install proprietary driver, and I think it's the cause of the issue. is there a way to reinstall the previous open source gpu drivers? |
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| 12:33.33 | teraflops | pragomer_1: weird ... |
| 12:34.11 | croup | fatar12: Of course. What video card do you have? (1st command) |
| 12:34.19 | pragomer_1 | really... ;-) |
| 12:34.32 | pragomer_1 | thank you all guys.... cu |
| 12:35.08 | teraflops | pragomer_1: you can do it via agetty and .bashrc too, avoding the session manager |
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| 12:40.10 | johnfg | hi folks |
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| 12:40.49 | johnfg | on this pretty new jessie install, I've tried cinnamon desktop, but am going to go with mate instead. |
| 12:41.09 | LOR | Where i download package light-themes for debian 8 jessie |
| 12:41.22 | johnfg | What's the best way (not too much helpful through google, imho) to completely remove/uninstall the cinnamon desktop? |
| 12:41.26 | teraflops | because cinnamon is a mess ... |
| 12:41.43 | johnfg | teraflops: I agree. |
| 12:42.09 | LOR | i enter apt-get install light-themes, not found |
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| 12:42.44 | johnfg | LOR: Do an apt-cache search light-themes. |
| 12:43.08 | LOR | johnfg:i,m searching, not found |
| 12:43.36 | croup | LOR: It seems to b an ubuntu-package.... |
| 12:43.56 | teraflops | LOR: what are you looking for? |
| 12:44.06 | LOR | croup:In fedora package present light-theme-gnome |
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| 12:44.33 | LOR | teraflops:I search package with themes ambiance/radiance on debian |
| 12:44.40 | teraflops | LOR: gtk? |
| 12:44.53 | LOR | teraflops:Yes. But i not found |
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| 12:46.05 | teraflops | LOR: tried something like `apt-cache search gtk | grep theme` ? |
| 12:47.03 | LOR | Not found |
| 12:47.13 | croup | LOR: Or: sudo apt-get install gnome-theme<TAB>,<TAB> |
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| 12:47.50 | LOR | No this theme |
| 12:47.52 | b00s3d | danm.. |
| 12:48.42 | b00s3d | can someone please find an paste the last line that included "b00s3d" i by accident closed the tab :S |
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| 12:49.16 | teraflops | b00s3d: i bet you have logs :P |
| 12:49.44 | teraflops | ups nope? gateway/web/freenode/ip. |
| 12:50.47 | teraflops | b00s3d: this one? 2015-12-04 23:02:36b00s3dhttps://blog.ipredator.se/linux-firewall-howto.html |
| 12:52.41 | croup | LOR: ...shows: gnome-themes, gnome-themes-extras, gnome-themes-standard ... Maybe ambiance/radiance is in one of them. Or find them at http://gnome-look.org/ ?! |
| 12:53.09 | LOR | croup:on gnome-look.org is old version for GTK 2. |
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| 13:01.21 | croup | LOR: Radiance: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=166631, Ambience: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=166632 |
| 13:02.43 | LOR | croup:It,s for shell |
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| 13:03.12 | LOR | Where for GTK and Metacity? |
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| 13:03.44 | croup | LOR: Ah, sorry. Thought you meant gnome 3 (shell). |
| 13:04.00 | b00s3d | what is this:::::: [13:50] <teraflops> b00s3d: this one? 2015-12-04 23:02:36b00s3dhttps://blog.ipredator.se/linux-firewall-howto.html |
| 13:04.46 | LOR | croup:I seach package for GTK+ and metacity. Do not install the package with Ubuntu . |
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| 13:06.40 | croup | LOR: You're not looking for this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=168155 ? Or maybe the closest so far ;-) |
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| 13:07.14 | LOR | croup:Thank You |
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| 13:07.30 | LOR | croup:not package, but is good. |
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| 13:09.35 | croup | LOR: glad i could help ;-) |
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| 13:20.01 | teraflops | b00s3d: is the latest entry I have if I grep for b00s3d :P |
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| 13:24.30 | FirePowi | Hello, is it possible to have a different /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/file.conf for each user, please ? |
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| 13:24.58 | FirePowi | Or something in the configuration file that change for a specific user. |
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| 13:26.23 | teraflops | FirePowi: does Xorg run as user or systemwide there? |
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| 13:29.10 | themill | FirePowi: what are you wanting to change? |
| 13:29.17 | morf | that's the question yes |
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| 13:29.30 | morf | first what comes into mind is .xinitrc |
| 13:29.51 | FirePowi | teraflops, I think it systemwide :x (didn't change anything from HandyLinux) |
| 13:30.02 | FirePowi | themill, to change the graphic driver. |
| 13:30.11 | teraflops | FirePowi: well then i guess you cannot, anyway what's your xy? |
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| 13:37.55 | johnfg | How would it work if I get all the pkgs found by, apt-cache search cinnamon, and then remove/purge those? Would that be a good way to completely remove cinnamon? |
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| 13:43.02 | Guest26366 | ciao |
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| 13:44.33 | croup | johnfg: This looks promising: https://packages.debian.org/sid/task-cinnamon-desktop |
| 13:45.16 | FirePowi | Oh I wanted to do that because my corsor disapear. |
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| 13:45.43 | FirePowi | But I changed back to "radeon" and I still have that issue. |
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| 13:47.35 | bezaban | FirePowi: dconf write /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/cursor/active false |
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| 13:47.59 | bezaban | might work. Had that issue with i3 + gnome and I've noted others have had use for that |
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| 13:49.09 | bezaban | wrt to cursor issue. |
| 13:49.49 | FirePowi | I don't have "dconf" witch pkg ? |
| 13:49.52 | FirePowi | which* |
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| 13:50.29 | bezaban | dconf-cli I think |
| 13:50.31 | bezaban | sec |
| 13:51.06 | bezaban | yeah |
| 13:51.24 | FirePowi | Yea, thanks |
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| 13:52.00 | bezaban | it seems to be a common issue with other window managers and gnome-settings-daemon |
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| 13:52.25 | FirePowi | still no cursor. |
| 13:52.28 | bezaban | :( |
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| 14:05.53 | FirePowi | since I installed linux header⦠:x |
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| 14:36.12 | johnfg | If I do a `apt-get -s remove cinnamon-desktop-environment` it only shows 2 pkgs going to be removed: |
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| 14:37.08 | johnfg | Remv task-cinnamon-desktop [3.31+deb8u1]; and Remv cinnamon-desktop-environment [2.2.4]. Don't know if removing those will get rid of the other cinnamon pkgs or not. i'm thinking not. |
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| 14:39.32 | zykotick9 | johnfg: after removing those try "apt-get autoremove"... |
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| 14:40.25 | zykotick9 | would need to check what the -s is for apt-get... he further notes that aptitude tries to remove everything in one go... apt-get & apt do not. |
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| 14:42.24 | zykotick9 | found out it's simulate... he's never found much of a need for that?! seems like it _could_ come in handy?!?! |
| 14:42.27 | johnfg | zykotick9: the s is just to -s --simulate, so show what would be done. |
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| 14:43.35 | zykotick9 | johnfg: just confirmed aptitude has the same -s switch, you could try it and see if you have different results... |
| 14:43.38 | johnfg | zykotick9: apt-cache search cinnamon returns 43 pkgs, whereas the cmd above only removes 2 of them. |
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| 14:43.52 | johnfg | zykotick9: will do. |
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| 14:44.46 | zykotick9 | johnfg: when apt-get removes a metapackage, it removes that packages then gives a messsage like "now the following isn't required, use autoremove to remove them"... |
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| 14:54.45 | FirePowi | nano /eaptsour |
| 14:55.54 | FirePowi | sorry. Wrong place. |
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| 15:10.04 | fertorresf | hello everybody |
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| 15:15.47 | Yelp | What's the easiest way to install golang on debian ? |
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| 15:16.05 | Yelp | apt-get install golang ? |
| 15:16.15 | bazhang | ,v golang |
| 15:16.16 | judd | Package: golang on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.2-1.1; wheezy-backports: 2:1.3.3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:1.3.3-1; jessie-backports: 2:1.5.1-4~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:1.5.1-4; sid: 2:1.5.2-1 |
| 15:16.30 | bazhang | on wheezy? |
| 15:16.48 | Yelp | on jessie |
| 15:16.58 | bazhang | yep |
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| 15:17.12 | Yelp | allright, thanks |
| 15:17.24 | kasimon | Hi. Is there somewhere a *complete* list of jessie's d-i preseed parameters? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apbs04.html.en is missing apt-setup/security_path for example. |
| 15:17.56 | kasimon | Reason is i'm behind a firewall and want to redirect d-i to use our internal mirror for all repositories. |
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| 15:18.15 | abrotman | kasimon: you might want to ask #debian-boot on OFTC |
| 15:18.30 | kasimon | abrotman: thanks, will to that! |
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| 15:25.18 | FirePowi | Hi, I've lost my cursor since I installed amd proprietary driver, is there a way to have my cursor back ? (Xfce) |
| 15:25.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell Yelp -about jessie-backports |
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| 15:25.36 | babilen | Yelp: ^^ in case you want to install golang from jessie-backports |
| 15:25.53 | babilen | (pass "-t jessie-backports" to apt-get) |
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| 15:45.38 | johnfg | This is kinda weird. I'm running the mate desktop on debian jessie. Neither gparted nor synaptic will start from the System/Administration menu. |
| 15:46.02 | johnfg | They'll start from the cli, asking for authentication. but they *used* to start from the menu. |
| 15:46.08 | johnfg | What's up with that? |
| 15:46.14 | johnfg | or with this? |
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| 15:48.28 | testpil0t | johnfg, do you have gksu installed? |
| 15:48.52 | johnfg | testpil0t: Don't know, I'll check. |
| 15:49.04 | testpil0t | or gksudo |
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| 15:49.43 | johnfg | gksu is already the newest version. |
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| 15:49.55 | johnfg | testpil0t: I'll check on gksudo as well. |
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| 15:50.58 | johnfg | testpil0t: I don't have gksudo. is it needed and those 2 menu items didn't pull it in? |
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| 15:51.21 | zerocool | hello everyone, just installed debian 8.2 on a dell latitude e6410, everything is great so far but no sound. please help? |
| 15:51.46 | morf | zerocool: well first you need to know what sound card you have |
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| 15:52.00 | testpil0t | johnfg, i'm not sure. But gksu is that window asking for sudo (graphically) |
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| 15:52.16 | lotsoftuna | Hi, still having an issue where when master and speaker is muted, there's a buzzing out my left laptop speaker |
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| 15:52.22 | lotsoftuna | seems to come and go |
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| 15:52.38 | lotsoftuna | Also having an issue where master gets unmuted by the hardware button, but speaker doesn't |
| 15:52.40 | lotsoftuna | so there's no audio |
| 15:52.43 | testpil0t | zerocool, check if you have pulse (or alsa) installed |
| 15:52.56 | zerocool | morf: "Intel 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio" |
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| 15:53.35 | zerocool | I have alsa, pulse was also installed so in order to just work on alsa by itself i have removed pulseaudio* and pavucontrol |
| 15:53.42 | zykotick9 | zerocool: note, alsamixer is typically muted by default... to prevent feedback i hear. |
| 15:53.49 | ocmsRzr | hi, I'm having trouble getting my nvidia card to work with a uefi boot. I've installed windows 10, and then debian. The install went fine, but it boots to low graphics mode. Searching online I found that nvidia is not compatable with uefi boot, and must be run in legacy bios mode. Is it possible to dual boot windows 10 and debian in legacy bios mode? |
| 15:53.54 | lotsoftuna | zerocool: are you having the same issue as me |
| 15:53.58 | lotsoftuna | because it sounds like it |
| 15:54.37 | zerocool | lotsoftuna: everything appears to be working, just have no sound? |
| 15:54.47 | morf | check if you have sound muted or not |
| 15:54.52 | lotsoftuna | nope |
| 15:55.00 | johnfg | i reinstalled gksu (we don't have gksudo) but it hasn't made any difference. |
| 15:55.01 | ocmsRzr | zerocool: alsamixer should let you check if its muted |
| 15:55.04 | zerocool | zykotick9: yeah i checked alsamixer yesterday, and again today, no mute |
| 15:55.07 | lotsoftuna | Everything works for me, but buzzing noise out of one laptop speaker when master is muted |
| 15:55.15 | zerocool | morf: not muted in alsamixer |
| 15:55.29 | lotsoftuna | Also, can't unmute master + speaker at the same time with hardware buttons |
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| 15:56.02 | ocmsRzr | zerocool: pavucontrol can let you select the stream if you've got pulseaudio running. Sometimes my sound gets stuck to hdmi if I plug in a tv and forget to change it back |
| 15:56.06 | ocmsRzr | or vice versa |
| 15:56.33 | johnfg | Any other thoughts on why gparted and synaptic won't start from the mate menu? |
| 15:57.11 | zerocool | ocmsRzr: hmm... i'll put pulse stuff back and check that out |
| 15:57.11 | lotsoftuna | uh |
| 15:57.12 | lotsoftuna | johnfg: try running them through cli |
| 15:57.12 | azmodeus | hello people, so... I have my new fresh installed Debiban 8.2 on my Lenovo z50-75 and I think I should install some video and other pheripheral drivers.. any hint or user guide on how to do it =) |
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| 15:58.14 | ocmsRzr | does anyone know if its possible to boot windows 10 with uefi and debian in legacy bios? |
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| 16:00.03 | zerocool | brb rebooting |
| 16:00.03 | lotsoftuna | they work there right? |
| 16:00.03 | lotsoftuna | azmodeus: for nvidia: http://linuxconfig.org/nvidia-geforce-driver-installation-on-debian-jessie-linux-8-64bit |
| 16:00.03 | lotsoftuna | or, get the run package from nvidia website, install that |
| 16:00.03 | lotsoftuna | dunno what your GPU is |
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| 16:00.32 | azmodeus | lotsoftuna, right, thanks... it is a radeon r7 gpu... |
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| 16:01.10 | johnfg | lotsoftuna: right, that works, but I'd like the menu to work too. |
| 16:01.44 | johnfg | I added gksu to the Exec line in synaptic.desktop. It asked for authentication, but never came up :-( |
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| 16:01.58 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: yes it is |
| 16:02.17 | lotsoftuna | :/ |
| 16:02.20 | lotsoftuna | that's weird |
| 16:02.29 | lotsoftuna | At least you know that it works |
| 16:03.10 | ocmsRzr | hyperborean: how do I? I thought if I just booted the debian live cd without selecting efi boot it would install grub and grub would just magically find windows 10 and let me boot debian in legacy bios mode |
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| 16:03.31 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: you need to set in your bios settings legacy mode |
| 16:03.39 | lotsoftuna | azmodeus: there should be guides, check google |
| 16:03.48 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: then you cant boot windows, but are able to install linux |
| 16:04.03 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: if you want to boot windows you need to chnge the setting back |
| 16:04.14 | ocmsRzr | really?! |
| 16:04.26 | azmodeus | lotsoftuna, yep thanks... =) my question was too early made I've found out something.. thanks again anyway! =) |
| 16:04.55 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: yeah, thats how I did. I used very little windows so it was not a big deal to switch once in a couple of months, ymmv |
| 16:05.07 | zerocool | ocmsRzr: you are the man! I reinstalled pulseaudio and pavucontrol, opened pavucontrol, no audio devices, rebooted... pavucontrol, the audio dev was there, unmuted it from there and now it's all good! |
| 16:05.20 | zerocool | fought with that issue all night last night, eugh! |
| 16:05.22 | ocmsRzr | zerocool: awesome |
| 16:05.43 | ocmsRzr | ergh, that's my gaming rig so easily booting between the two was desirable |
| 16:05.52 | zerocool | ocmsRzr: you have a wonderful days. thanks debian guys <3 |
| 16:05.55 | lotsoftuna | what the fuck |
| 16:05.55 | lotsoftuna | why, when I suspend debian, is my wireless still on |
| 16:05.55 | lotsoftuna | wtf |
| 16:06.08 | zerocool | lotsoftuna: ask the NSA |
| 16:06.22 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: then try to install linux with the gpt, I dont think windows will be able to boot from legacy |
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| 16:07.16 | ocmsRzr | debian installs fine with gpt, the issue is that the nvidia drivers don't work when the computer doesn't boot with legacy bios |
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| 16:07.48 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: oh, hmm sorry don't know how to help you there |
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| 16:08.16 | ocmsRzr | hyperborean: thats alright, I think I'll sell the gpu and get an amd card |
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| 16:09.01 | lotsoftuna | ha |
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| 16:09.06 | hyperborean | ocmsRzr: sounds like a plan. In future when I buy I will double and triple check the support status of intended hardware heh |
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| 16:09.20 | azmodeus | lotsoftuna, done thanks... .=) |
| 16:09.43 | ocmsRzr | yeah I thought I was in the clear, it worked great until I upgraded to windows 10 |
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| 16:11.55 | johnfg | abrotman: Yesterday, I think you recommended my re-reading http://deb.li/ldcj, which I did and am. |
| 16:12.43 | hyperborean | hehe can happen |
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| 16:12.54 | johnfg | one it refers in 4.10 to obsolete pkgs, one of them is openoffice. I have a bunch of files in /var/lib/dpkg about openoffice. How to remove them? |
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| 16:14.09 | lotsoftuna | apt-get remove? |
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| 16:16.11 | johnfg | lotsoftuna: No, it's not installed any more, I think what pkgs are there are carry-overs. Nothing shows with apt-get remove openoffice. |
| 16:16.13 | abrotman | johnfg: not me .. |
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| 16:16.33 | abrotman | but good to read regardless :) |
| 16:16.42 | johnfg | abrotman: may have been karlpinc, but do you have a suggestion? |
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| 16:17.08 | abrotman | johnfg: for which what thing? |
| 16:17.10 | johnfg | abrotman: i.e., about removing obsolete pkgs? |
| 16:17.23 | abrotman | apt-get autoremove ? |
| 16:17.50 | johnfg | Did that after removing cinnamon, but it didn't get the openoffice junk out. |
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| 16:18.18 | abrotman | junk? |
| 16:18.38 | abrotman | you mean instead of libreoffice? |
| 16:18.46 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/362055/ yeah, junk...check this out, from apt-cache search openoffice. |
| 16:19.10 | abrotman | you can also try deborphan |
| 16:19.20 | johnfg | Yeah, haven't had openoffice for a few releases now, so this is pretty old stuff - junk! |
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| 16:21.58 | woshty | vfat does have a 4G limit, right? |
| 16:22.13 | abrotman | 2GB maybe, check wikipedia .. you might want exFAT |
| 16:22.26 | markybob | woshty, i think 4G, yes. |
| 16:22.44 | abrotman | might depend on the cluster size? |
| 16:22.56 | johnfg | abrotman: deborphan by itself doesn't list anything. |
| 16:23.01 | woshty | thx |
| 16:23.08 | abrotman | johnfg: deborphan -a |
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| 16:32.33 | johnfg | none of the openoffice files, what you saw in the paste, are listed by deborphan -a. |
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| 16:34.15 | johnfg | abrotman: Any other ideas to get rid of those pkgs found by apt-cache search openoffice? |
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| 16:36.17 | Zumochi | Hi! I'm running into a bit of a strange issue. I get an error saying no space left on device when I try to run apt-get update, but there really is plenty of space left |
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| 16:37.28 | Zumochi | When I try apt-get autoremove, I get the following: http://paste.debian.net/362062/ |
| 16:37.30 | bazhang | Zumochi, how many kernels |
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| 16:38.38 | Zumochi | bazhang: http://paste.debian.net/362064/ |
| 16:39.06 | Zumochi | All my partitions have plenty of space left |
| 16:39.13 | bazhang | Zumochi, did you remove all but two |
| 16:39.41 | Zumochi | I ran autoremove previously and it removed old kernels |
| 16:39.47 | Zumochi | (when it still worked) |
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| 16:39.59 | johnfg | gotta run to other office, but will check back later. |
| 16:40.01 | lekkerdurban | So i'm trying to xfer movies from my mac to my linux box. Mac format is not recognized on linux (obviously), and ext4 + other nix filesystems are not recognized on mac. Is fat32 the only option I have here? If that's the case, I can only xfer files < 4GB.. Anyone know of a possible work around? |
| 16:40.02 | bazhang | try with the package manager |
| 16:40.54 | Zumochi | I got a headless machine |
| 16:40.58 | bazhang | lekkerdurban, what movies are more than 4gb |
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| 16:41.16 | lekkerdurban | bazhang: brazzers |
| 16:41.28 | bazhang | no idea |
| 16:41.34 | markybob | bazhang, a lot of blu-ray ones |
| 16:41.35 | silverhom | o_o what are we talking about. |
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| 16:41.46 | bazhang | ohpriacy |
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| 16:42.16 | subleq | given that postgres 9.5 was released today, approximately how long does it take before it's available in testing? |
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| 16:42.33 | bazhang | Zumochi, the package manager is cli as well |
| 16:42.52 | markybob | lekkerdurban, exfat is supported in mac os x |
| 16:43.01 | markybob | lekkerdurban, so long as it's 10.6.5 or newer |
| 16:43.20 | Zumochi | aptitude? |
| 16:43.28 | Zumochi | I don't think I have aptitude :P |
| 16:43.34 | bazhang | apt |
| 16:43.56 | jelly | subleq: it depends, weeks-months |
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| 16:44.36 | Zumochi | heh why have I never used just apt :p |
| 16:45.26 | Zumochi | Same issue though |
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| 16:45.35 | Zumochi | It seems I can only manipulate packages with dpkg now |
| 16:45.54 | Zumochi | Pretty much everything I try with apt fails with no space left on device |
| 16:46.02 | jelly | Zumochi: because the fs where /var is seems to be full |
| 16:46.19 | Zumochi | jelly: seems to be |
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| 16:46.23 | Zumochi | df -h tells me differently |
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| 16:47.00 | jelly | Zumochi: pastebin the output of "df" please |
| 16:47.00 | bevolumee | https://soundcloud.com/bevolume/bevolume-positive-dreams Listen and Enyoj my music !!! |
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| 16:47.13 | Zumochi | Specifically, that there's 6+ GB left |
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| 16:47.54 | jelly | Zumochi: and "df -i" too. |
| 16:48.04 | Zumochi | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/362067/ |
| 16:48.32 | Zumochi | Ohh with -i I see that /tmp has no free space |
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| 16:49.27 | jelly | that implies you have millions of files somewhere |
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| 16:59.28 | kingkong | hi. im on debian wheezy and have problem on pip as https://paste.kde.org/pswum30yf/gmxqx1 |
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| 17:00.30 | kingkong | on google i found fix as install pyopenssl ndg-httpsclient pyasn1 but didnt help |
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| 17:15.53 | trebor_home | hello. googling for hints on debian8.2 (Acer Aspire E15, i5-5200U, intel hd5500) crashing when starting a video (iceweasel & konqueror) on youtube. could someone give me a hint what to look for / how to find the relevant information? |
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| 17:17.20 | hyperborean | trebor_home: did you check the errorlogs, system logs etc? |
| 17:17.21 | Jeivy | what errors Xorg.0.log report? |
| 17:18.02 | trebor_home | hyperborean: i am looking at /var/log/messages, but i do not know what to search for ... |
| 17:18.23 | trebor_home | Jeivy: will do so... |
| 17:18.25 | crash_ | trebor_home: try upgrade your intel driver it's in the backports, it fixed a lot of problem for me. i'm on a hd5500 too |
| 17:19.01 | trebor_home | crash_: thanks, will google for that. |
| 17:20.09 | hyperborean | trebor_home: basically first try what crash proposed then if the problem persists study the logs... because right now is very hard to tell what the reason might be |
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| 17:20.45 | FXpro | wwhats the lastest debian release of vlc? |
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| 17:22.49 | bazhang | ,v vlc |
| 17:22.50 | judd | Package: vlc on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.2.1-1~deb8u1; sid: 2.2.1-5+b1; stretch: |
| 17:22.51 | judd | 2.2.1-5+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo1+cve1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo12 |
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| 17:23.15 | trebor_home | hyperborean: you are right. i am not used to read the logs, so i hoped to get a hint, what kind of message-pattern to search for (except "error" ;). first i will try the backports hint from crash_. maybe that resolves the problem. |
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| 17:24.24 | hyperborean | trebor_home: yeah, if not look at the timestamps when the crash happens and look for messages concerning xorg, crashes, exceptions, errors etc. |
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| 17:25.01 | hyperborean | trebor_home: and what crashes btw? X or browsers? |
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| 17:25.17 | crash_ | trebor_home: add the jessie-backports repo and then do apt-get update and apt-get -t jessie-backports install xserver-xorg-video-intel |
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| 17:26.46 | trebor_home | hyperborean: it seems to me that x crahses (the screen blanks and i get back to the login screen). |
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| 17:27.46 | hyperborean | trebor_home: yeah looks like that. good luck with the new driver! |
| 17:28.41 | trebor_home | crash_: thanks, i am doing so (just now read the manual how to put in the backports ...) but it is a different pc and i have to walk some steps from this pc to the crashing one ... |
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| 17:29.23 | hyperborean | trebor_home: if they are on the same network you can use ssh |
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| 17:30.34 | crash_ | trebor_home: you can copy the info from the regular repo you have in the sources.list and change to jessie-backports instead of regular jessie. |
| 17:31.04 | Jeivy | its really weird to me when people use Linux and dont integrate the machines |
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| 17:45.55 | cmhobbs | can anyone think of anything in jessie that would be firing up this process? openssl s_client -connect www.snip2code.com 443 -no_ssl2 -ign_eof |
| 17:46.04 | cmhobbs | i had four of them running here for about 15 hours, chewing up my processor |
| 17:46.11 | cmhobbs | they died before i could find the parent process |
| 17:46.21 | cmhobbs | i'm going through all the stuff i use, trying to figure out what might do that |
| 17:46.35 | cmhobbs | wanted to make sure it's not something in debian itself, even though that's highly unlikely |
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| 18:11.05 | sparky4 | i has question to restore the icons of Pictures Videos Downloads Public Template ? |
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| 18:17.06 | abrotman | Johann: just remove them ? feed the list to apt-get, purge them all |
| 18:17.14 | fernie | sparky4: xdg-user-dirs-update ? |
| 18:17.28 | sparky4 | ok |
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| 18:19.20 | sparky4 | also i am trying to install the jazz16 isa sound card on debian etch |
| 18:19.24 | sparky4 | how do i accomplish this? |
| 18:19.37 | Jeivy | yeah, purge them all: sudo apt-get purge * |
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| 18:20.16 | FatB0yy | hi. what is the easiest way to dual boot debian with windows 10? |
| 18:20.44 | stoned | Jeivy: --purge :) |
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| 18:21.01 | Jeivy | kidding. i am using lenny |
| 18:21.36 | stoned | Jeivy: and I think that * won't work anyway. |
| 18:21.56 | stoned | ^.* might |
| 18:22.11 | morf | well it would be interesting to try |
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| 18:22.37 | stoned | Well, afaik, it should tell you ALL of the packags, EVERY SINGLE ONE, even if it's not installed. |
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| 18:22.44 | stoned | You'll be runing through that list for a long time. |
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| 18:22.51 | stoned | remember, you're regexing through the entire repo |
| 18:22.55 | sparky4 | fernie: nope... |
| 18:23.28 | stoned | and eventually it will give you erorrs in unsatisfied dependencies and probably fail. |
| 18:23.41 | stoned | Feel free to do a dry run |
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| 18:24.38 | FatB0yy | anyone? |
| 18:24.40 | sparky4 | i am trying to install the jazz16 isa sound card on debian etch. What do i do to accomplish this? use thee drivers source package or the firmware one? |
| 18:25.24 | stoned | FatB0yy: install windows 10 first, make sure to leave unparttiond sapce for linux or have an other hdd to install to, then install debian (follow install guide) |
| 18:25.27 | morf | FatB0yy: just find it on the internet. there is no magic |
| 18:25.29 | mtn | FatB0yy: make room for debian while in windows. install debian to free space. |
| 18:26.30 | morf | it's pretty much working like any other dual boot with windows |
| 18:26.32 | uxfi | hey |
| 18:26.34 | uxfi | FatB0yy, |
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| 18:26.46 | morf | although there may be some gotchas around secure boot and similar nonsense |
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| 18:27.04 | pippo | !list |
| 18:27.05 | dpkg | pippo: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 18:27.21 | stoned | !dual boot guide |
| 18:27.21 | dpkg | A guide for setting up dual boot with Windows 7 can be found at http://linuxcommando.blogspot.ca/2013/12/dual-booting-debian-wheezy-and-windows-7.html . Also ask me about <fixmbr>, <supergrub>. |
| 18:27.37 | stoned | It should be fairly relevant to windows 10 and Jessie. |
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| 18:30.31 | stoned | I also turn off secure boot. also EFI. i run CMS (legacy bios mode) on my laptop |
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| 18:30.43 | stoned | CSM* |
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| 18:39.33 | stoned | xset r rate 200 40 <- is there an Xresources value for keyboar repeat rate? or should I put this in my xsessionrc ? |
| 18:40.06 | greycat | Xresources apply to specific programs that look up their resources in that database, not global stuff like keyboard repeat rates. |
| 18:40.18 | stoned | Nod |
| 18:40.31 | stoned | thanks for the confirmation |
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| 18:46.05 | bigmouthcommie | how do i debootstrap trisquel onto my hdd? |
| 18:46.48 | towo` | ask in the right channel |
| 18:47.19 | bigmouthcommie | debootstrap is a debian pkg. i thought i could get support here since there isn't a debootstrap channel |
| 18:47.45 | towo` | but trisquel is not debian |
| 18:48.08 | bigmouthcommie | no, but i should be able to debootstrap it anyway |
| 18:48.12 | towo` | why should anyone support your whishes? |
| 18:48.21 | bigmouthcommie | do you have experience with debootstrap? |
| 18:48.30 | towo` | then read the manpage of debootstrap |
| 18:49.01 | bigmouthcommie | i've used it before, and i have the manpage open next to this buffer. i'm just not very self-confident |
| 18:49.12 | OmidRaha | Hi, i install `unbound` package on Debian with `apt-get install unbound`, but `unbound` can not start. |
| 18:49.16 | OmidRaha | Errors: |
| 18:49.17 | OmidRaha | Jan 07 22:05:08 debian systemd[1]: Starting unbound.service... |
| 18:49.18 | OmidRaha | Jan 07 22:05:09 debian unbound-anchor[4816]: /var/lib/unbound/root.key has content |
| 18:49.18 | OmidRaha | Jan 07 22:05:09 debian unbound-anchor[4816]: success: the anchor is ok |
| 18:49.18 | OmidRaha | Jan 07 22:05:09 debian unbound[4818]: [4818:0] error: Error for server-cert-file: /etc/unbound/unbound_server.pem |
| 18:49.18 | OmidRaha | Jan 07 22:05:09 debian unbound[4818]: [4818:0] error: Error in SSL_CTX use_certificate_chain_file crypto error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory |
| 18:49.18 | OmidRaha | Jan 07 22:05:09 debian unbound[4806]: Starting recursive DNS server: unbound failed! |
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| 18:50.02 | teraflops | bigmouthcommie: you can deboostrat wherever you want, just grab the right tools |
| 18:50.08 | teraflops | trap* |
| 18:50.25 | towo` | bigmouthcommie, https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-trisquel-server second hit on google |
| 18:50.46 | bigmouthcommie | i've seen that page. its for v2. i m on trisquel v 7 |
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| 18:51.12 | towo` | bigmouthcommie, you should start to use your brain |
| 18:51.28 | bigmouthcommie | you should learn some manners |
| 18:51.42 | greycat | bigmouthcommie: We don't support installation of other operating systems here. |
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| 18:52.49 | bigmouthcommie | how do you support debootstrap? like ... do the deboostrap devs have a prefferred support channel? |
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| 18:53.34 | abrotman | bigmouthcommie: We only support Debian here. Trisquel has its own channel, go there for support with Trisquel. If you want to ask here, install Debian. |
| 18:53.44 | OmidRaha | Hi, i have problem with running `unbound` package on Debian, I install it with `apt-get install unbound`, but `unbound` can not start, here is error output: http://paste.debian.net/362125/ |
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| 18:56.17 | Brigo | OmidRaha, it looks like there is a problem with /etc/unbound/unbound_server.pem file. does it exist? |
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| 18:56.42 | OmidRaha | No,there is not exist |
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| 18:57.42 | Brigo | OmidRaha,unbound is trying to use it, unsuccessfully |
| 18:59.03 | stoned | Path to the server self signed certificate, by default |
| 18:59.06 | stoned | server-cert-file: <certificate file.pem> |
| 18:59.19 | teraflops | OmidRaha: what are you looking for? dnssec validation? |
| 18:59.21 | stoned | This file is generated by the unbound-con-trol-setup utility. |
| 18:59.30 | stoned | This file is generated by the unbound-control-setup utility. |
| 18:59.37 | stoned | https://www.unbound.net/documentation/unbound.conf.html |
| 18:59.40 | OmidRaha | Brigo, stoned: Yes, i try to create this file with `unbound-control-setup`, but i get another error: http://paste.debian.net/362140/ |
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| 19:00.24 | stoned | OmidRaha: pastebin the contents of requst.cfg |
| 19:01.16 | stoned | Look at line 6? Says missing equal sign. |
| 19:01.23 | stoned | Make sure your config file is ok. |
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| 19:02.17 | OmidRaha | stoned: Also, I don't know why there is `\n` on the end of each line in this file: http://paste.debian.net/362141/ |
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| 19:02.53 | greycat | Looks like it was auto-generated by a bugged program. |
| 19:03.30 | teraflops | OmidRaha: i guess you want apt-get install dnssec-trigger, not apt-get install unbound |
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| 19:04.28 | teraflops | OmidRaha: unless youre used to unbound ... this is the debian way :P |
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| 19:05.33 | OmidRaha | teraflops: I want to install `unbound` to use with `dnscrypt-proxy` as described here: https://github.com/jedisct1/dnscrypt-proxy |
| 19:05.37 | teraflops | wonders why nobody reads the debian wiki |
| 19:05.55 | teraflops | OmidRaha: nah you want to install dnssec-trigger |
| 19:06.14 | teraflops | again... unless youre used to unbound |
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| 19:08.40 | sparky4 | fernie: yay they are back!! |
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| 19:19.44 | namoamitabuddha | Should a bugreport for kernel of bpo be reported to debian-backports@lists.debian.org? |
| 19:19.58 | simonlnu | use reportbug |
| 19:20.15 | namoamitabuddha | Eh, but http://backports.debian.org/FAQ/ |
| 19:20.27 | namoamitabuddha | it's said that ... |
| 19:20.35 | simonlnu | ok, follow the faq then |
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| 19:30.09 | ChunkzZ | test |
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| 19:30.22 | ChunkzZ | sorry, on a live cd right now. |
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| 19:31.36 | ChunkzZ | anyway, I installed debian 8.2 jessie on my netbook and went with the system utils and debian DE, all went fine, no errors etc. it installed, booted it and there's no login manager? when I type startx it goes to the username with a white cursor and won;t let me type anything else? |
| 19:31.54 | ChunkzZ | I had to boot a live cd to join irc |
| 19:32.02 | ChunkzZ | anyone got any ideas? |
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| 19:33.05 | morf | ChunkzZ: maybe try install some desktop environment |
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| 19:33.53 | ChunkzZ | omg |
| 19:33.54 | ChunkzZ | omg |
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| 19:54.56 | Ditak | how can i authorize a user to run apper with policykit without root password |
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| 19:58.07 | stoned | Chunkr: does it start X at all? |
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| 19:58.26 | stoned | you see a white cursor, and do you see any terminal window open there at all? |
| 19:59.21 | stoned | Chunkr: how did you install "debian DE" (what does that mean?)? Which pacakges did you install? |
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| 19:59.38 | stoned | Chunkr: before you startx, run tasksel as root, and install a desktop env. |
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| 20:00.29 | greycat | Or install a window manager and a terminal emulator. That's more than enough for root. |
| 20:00.53 | stoned | I personally recommend rxvt-unicode and xmonad |
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| 20:01.36 | stoned | And don't startx as root, but as user, and keep a root term open. |
| 20:01.40 | stoned | or just use sudo. |
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| 20:16.29 | Devastator | does anybody know if when a stable release becomes oldstable, does the factoid that explains how to upgrade from there to a new release is deleted? example: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy does nothing |
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| 20:17.03 | greycat | I think we lost him in a netsplit. |
| 20:17.10 | Devastator | ah, right |
| 20:17.13 | Devastator | missed that hehe |
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| 20:18.16 | autowired | --- |
| 20:18.57 | Devastator | come back dpkg! :~ |
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| 20:49.38 | gnat_x | hi folks. sanity checking time. i have a debian router. i'm trying to test a new ISP connection on eth0; i have an existing ISP connection on eth2. eth3 serves one subnet and eth4 another. in my interfaces file, just using eth0's ip as a gateway for eth4, and eth2's ip as gw for eth3 should accomplish that. |
| 20:49.54 | gnat_x | (provided i of course also make corresponding iptables changes) |
| 20:50.21 | gnat_x | i'm just trying to make sure that i don't accidentally break the network. ;) |
| 20:50.26 | greycat | "eth0's ip as a gateway for eth4" makes no sense at all |
| 20:50.38 | uxfi | hi gnat_x |
| 20:50.54 | gnat_x | maybe i'm not being clear enough about what i mean. |
| 20:51.01 | markybob | gnat_x, i'm with greycat on this one |
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| 20:51.34 | greycat | In the absence of special iptables voodoo, routing is done ONLY by examining the destination IP. If the destination IP is 192.168.1.x then you route it out through eth3, etc. Otherwise, if it doesn't match any existing routes, you just use the SINGULAR (there is only one) default gateway. |
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| 20:53.02 | greycat | I think you're trying to say "Packets coming from users on eth4 should go out eth0", but you can't do that with standard routing. |
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| 20:54.16 | gnat_x | so i have eth0 acting as a statically defined interface for the new connection. i also have eth2 acting in the same capacity for a different connection. the default route is currently via eth2's (default via x.x.x.x dev eth2) |
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| 20:56.06 | gnat_x | so for this example eth0's ip: 207.x.x.x, and eth2 165.x.x.x. i can ping -I 207.x.x.x 4.2.2.2 and it goes through. |
| 20:56.47 | markybob | gnat_x, you might want to try #netfilter |
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| 20:57.58 | gnat_x | i also have 2 different subnets on the LAN side, 192.168.5.x and 10.x.x.x, i want 10.x.x.x's gateway changed, but not 192.168.5.x. |
| 20:58.06 | gnat_x | am i understanding that this isn't possible? |
| 20:58.21 | greycat | I thought I was clear. |
| 20:58.28 | markybob | not how you described it |
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| 20:59.36 | gnat_x | greycat: okay that makes sense. |
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| 21:11.34 | dog_chair | easiest way to get apache 2.4 on debian 7? |
| 21:11.36 | dog_chair | dont ask |
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| 21:12.13 | greycat | ,v apache2 |
| 21:12.14 | judd | Package: apache2 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; squeeze-security-lts: 2.2.16-6+squeeze15; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u1; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u3; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.4.10-10+deb8u4; sid: 2.4.18-1; stretch: 2.4.18-1 |
| 21:12.39 | greycat | No wheezy-backports, so I guess you either backport it yourself, or use upstream. |
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| 21:13.22 | dog_chair | what do the words use upstream mean |
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| 21:13.36 | greycat | www.apache.org |
| 21:13.50 | dog_chair | ah compile! Id love to but boss kind prune face |
| 21:14.00 | dog_chair | hell id love to use g-wan |
| 21:14.30 | dog_chair | my boss wants all done in ansible |
| 21:14.34 | dog_chair | :( |
| 21:14.34 | uxfi | hi dog_chair |
| 21:14.35 | uxfi | nice nick |
| 21:14.41 | greycat | Backporting it yourself also involves compiling, but you'd start with Debian-patched sources instead of upstream sources. |
| 21:14.43 | dog_chair | which screws me in terms of getting newers stuff |
| 21:14.53 | dog_chair | thx |
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| 21:15.04 | uxfi | greycat, where are you saying about apache before? How can I test a site I have in Ubuntu on a VM? |
| 21:15.07 | uxfi | and nope |
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| 21:15.29 | greycat | uxfi: you'd... test it by surfing to it in a web browser? |
| 21:15.41 | uxfi | oh right |
| 21:15.44 | uxfi | greycat, but I mean testing the code? |
| 21:15.55 | greycat | What code? |
| 21:16.02 | uxfi | HTML & CSS |
| 21:16.08 | greycat | Web browser. |
| 21:16.08 | pasturesofplenty | does anyone happen to have a brother hl2270dw printer that they got working with debian? |
| 21:16.10 | uxfi | its my personal website that I want to get up on a remote debian server so |
| 21:16.12 | uxfi | right |
| 21:16.13 | uxfi | via localhost or? |
| 21:16.17 | uxfi | I'd need to get apache running so |
| 21:16.22 | greycat | Via whatever it takes you point the web browser at it. |
| 21:16.37 | uxfi | ah |
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| 21:22.30 | Evidlo | Anyone here have debian running in an LXC container? I'm getting some weird issues, like ping not being installed and '/bin' not being in PATH |
| 21:23.12 | Evidlo | I also can't use apt because I'm missing ldconfig |
| 21:23.20 | Brigo | Evidlo, me |
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| 21:23.31 | greycat | Sounds like your install is just incomplete. |
| 21:23.33 | Brigo | how did you create the container? |
| 21:23.42 | Evidlo | Brigo: lxc-create -n mycontainer -t debian |
| 21:23.56 | Evidlo | And that's it |
| 21:24.13 | TTT | hi, my hard disk drive on a router/home server died. I have a 32 gb USB stick. Is it possible to install Debian to a USB stick like it was a normal hard drive? Not just a live-USB image, but a real installiation? |
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| 21:24.39 | Brigo | Evidlo, anything weird had happened, as greycat said it looks an incomplete install. |
| 21:24.42 | morf | TTT: sure why not |
| 21:24.44 | greycat | TTT: As long as your firmware can boot from it, yes. But performance may be poor. |
| 21:24.44 | petemc | TTT: yes, but it will be slow |
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| 21:24.58 | morf | kind of |
| 21:25.01 | Brigo | TTT, yes it is. |
| 21:25.08 | TTT | I have the backups for the dead drive with the Debian system that used to run there |
| 21:25.08 | Evidlo | Also the usb stick will die more quickly from the rewrites |
| 21:25.59 | TTT | alternatively, if I create a Live-USB with a "persistency" partition, will that persist changes I make say in /etc directory? |
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| 21:27.27 | zykotick9 | would take "real" install over persistent-usb anyday... |
| 21:27.32 | Evidlo | No, I think it's a separate partition |
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| 21:27.52 | Evidlo | TTT: Why do you want to do this anyway? |
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| 21:29.32 | Evidlo | Brigo: greycat: Does this look like a critical error? https://dpaste.de/g8cM |
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| 21:29.52 | Evidlo | I took that first line from https://wiki.debian.org/LXC |
| 21:30.46 | greycat | lynx keeps saying Alert!: Unable to make secure connection to remote host. |
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| 21:30.56 | uxfi | weird |
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| 21:31.48 | TTT | I have bad lag on IRC, using mobile connection to download ISO... I'll give it a shot to do a "real" installiation to USB. I need that machine live to route internet while I get the replacement HDD... |
| 21:31.52 | Brigo | Evidlo, it looks normal. Try again with a new container. |
| 21:32.06 | Evidlo | That was a new one. Haven't booted it yet though |
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| 21:35.18 | ToadMan | hi, is there a documentation or manual that shows how to release a software for POSIX systems? I mean things like INSTALL, COPYING, configure etc.. |
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| 21:36.21 | greycat | You mean, how to write portable software, including setting up autoconf et al.? Probably the autoconf documentation would be a good starting point if you already know how to write portable code. |
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| 21:38.06 | Evidlo | Brigo: reinstall seems to have worked |
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| 21:44.27 | greycat | ToadMan: the ##workingset channel may also be relevant. |
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| 21:45.53 | bolt | what determines the value of $TERM on a tty login? |
| 21:46.05 | bolt | like, a regular console login after boot |
| 21:46.05 | uxfi | value? |
| 21:46.10 | uxfi | username I assume/ |
| 21:46.11 | uxfi | er |
| 21:46.12 | uxfi | host name? |
| 21:46.19 | bolt | $TERM |
| 21:46.25 | bolt | like, "linux" |
| 21:46.27 | bolt | "dumb" |
| 21:46.28 | bolt | etc |
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| 21:46.52 | bolt | it gets set to "linux" on my machine. and i'm wondering where that comes from |
| 21:46.52 | uxfi | huh |
| 21:47.59 | bolt | $TERM is not a username or a host name |
| 21:48.02 | bolt | it's the terminal type |
| 21:48.06 | greycat | bolt: on wheezy, I believe it is passed from init(8) to getty(8) |
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| 21:48.45 | bolt | greycat: should have specified i'm on jessie :/ |
| 21:49.21 | greycat | Jessie is so very much more complex... |
| 21:49.35 | bolt | indeed |
| 21:49.45 | greycat | But yeah, I just verified that on wheezy, TERM=linux is present in the initial process environment of getty. |
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| 21:50.59 | cra1g321 | oops wrong chan |
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| 21:51.20 | greycat | On jessie, TERM=linux is also present in getty's environment (viewed with ps), so it must come from init/systemd... exactly where, I don't know. |
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| 21:56.46 | bolt | greycat: /etc/login.defs contains an interesting reference to /etc/ttytype, but alas it's commented out and the file isn't there |
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| 21:58.34 | teraflops | greycat `sudo strings /proc/1/environ` |
| 21:59.10 | teraflops | oh he left |
| 21:59.22 | bolt | i'm the one wondering where it comes from :) |
| 21:59.28 | bolt | greycat it helping |
| 21:59.47 | bolt | interesting command that |
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| 22:00.21 | teraflops | bolt: afaik term is set to linux for pid1 |
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| 22:13.42 | cra1g321 | what is the correct way to give members of the sudo group sudo privileges ? when i do "adduser username sudo" then "visudo" and have "sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" in, logout & login, i still get told the user isnt in the sudoers file |
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| 22:15.21 | kallisti5 | the preseed partman is *REALLY* hard to work with :-( |
| 22:15.30 | kallisti5 | any chance of kickseed getting any more progress? |
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| 22:24.41 | bolt | cra1g321: groups are prefixed by % in sudoers |
| 22:25.37 | cra1g321 | bolt.... |
| 22:25.47 | cra1g321 | that did it :D |
| 22:26.31 | cra1g321 | thanks |
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| 22:27.51 | bolt | np |
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| 22:39.35 | llldino | Has anyone had an issue where xfdesktop sometimes doesn't start when I boot and login. I have to go to a terminal and enter "xfdesktop &" |
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| 22:42.01 | rueda | what was the command to install extfat support in debian? |
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| 22:42.37 | uxfi | rueda, expat always reminds me of a ex fat man |
| 22:42.37 | uxfi | haha |
| 22:42.39 | uxfi | exfat |
| 22:43.21 | rueda | haha |
| 22:43.41 | morf | rude |
| 22:43.45 | rueda | fatlabel |
| 22:43.54 | rueda | is for labeling fat32 |
| 22:44.11 | rueda | I learned that yesterday |
| 22:44.22 | rueda | is retarded huh |
| 22:44.37 | morf | oh well |
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| 22:45.22 | morf | i think you could happily die without knowing about it and won't miss anything |
| 22:45.24 | stew | rueda: exfat-utils |
| 22:45.54 | rueda | stew: do I have to add a repository? |
| 22:46.05 | stew | judd: versions exfat-utils |
| 22:46.06 | judd | Package: exfat-utils on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 0.9.7-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.9.7-2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 0.9.7-2+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 1.0.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.1.0-2; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.1.0-2+deb8u1; sid: 1.2.3-1; stretch: 1.2.3-1 |
| 22:46.21 | stew | rueda: what version of debian are you running |
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| 22:46.30 | rueda | the one from the website |
| 22:46.38 | rueda | 8.2 |
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| 22:47.38 | stew | rueda: then no, its in main |
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| 22:48.05 | rueda | stew: thanks |
| 22:48.08 | rueda | how did I know that |
| 22:48.09 | rueda | wow |
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| 22:48.29 | uxfi | arghh |
| 22:48.32 | uxfi | now the debian VM won't start |
| 22:48.58 | rueda | stew: how did you know it was on main |
| 22:49.00 | uxfi | I get a black screen |
| 22:49.02 | uxfi | any ideas? |
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| 22:52.50 | stew | rueda: judd said "jessie" if it weren't in jessie it wouldn't be there, if it were in contrib or non-free instead of main it would have said jessie/contrib or jess/non-free |
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| 22:53.19 | rueda | oh wow thanks |
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| 22:54.04 | uxfi | any idea/ |
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| 22:55.58 | sweatsuit | does anyone know how to trigger a shell script to run when Debian security updates are available? |
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| 22:56.52 | stew | sweatsuit: have a look at either apticron or cron-apt |
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| 22:59.18 | sweatsuit | stew: will do, thanks |
| 22:59.56 | uxfi | debian giving me a black screen on boot |
| 22:59.58 | uxfi | worked fine before |
| 23:00.00 | uxfi | what do I do lol |
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| 23:01.33 | stew | uxfi: can you ssh in? do you start X at boot? if so, can you ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a text terminal? |
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| 23:01.57 | uxfi | stew, its a VM |
| 23:02.25 | mtn | uxfi: fix the video settings in the vm |
| 23:02.46 | uxfi | mtn, worked fine before |
| 23:03.00 | uxfi | started happening when I reinstalled debian after I nuked old VM |
| 23:03.04 | mtn | uxfi: so? now it doesn't. got to figure out why, right? and then fix it? |
| 23:03.40 | stew | uxfi: yes, i knew it was a vm before asking those questions |
| 23:03.43 | uxfi | mtn, yeah not sure what caused it |
| 23:03.47 | uxfi | stew, oh ok |
| 23:05.46 | uxfi | let me see |
| 23:05.49 | uxfi | I'm reinstalling it again |
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| 23:25.30 | rueda | pro users |
| 23:25.44 | rueda | is fat32 faster to write to then exfat? I'm saying this cause I'm seeing it |
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| 23:26.38 | uxfi | ahhh debian taking too long |
| 23:26.45 | rueda | 5.5MB/s versus 18.42MB/s |
| 23:27.10 | rueda | same OS same underlying device and same reader |
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| 23:28.46 | uxfi | yay |
| 23:28.48 | uxfi | it works now |
| 23:29.16 | morf | rueda: http://www.flexense.com/fat32_exfat_ntfs_usb3_performance_comparison.html it shouldn't be so much different |
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| 23:32.30 | morf | rueda: just curious, what kind of device is it? |
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| 23:34.08 | azmodeus | ppl, why is that I am having terrible lagging and slow motion experience with iceweasel and flashplayer plugin? |
| 23:35.08 | rueda | morf: hi! |
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| 23:40.24 | rueda | morf: it's a cf card 64gb by sandisk http://www.drivehq.com/web/peruano/images/img_9368.JPG |
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| 23:41.22 | rueda | morf: I bought a udmba7 enabled card reader for it and read speeds go up to 37mb/s on fat32 |
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| 23:41.59 | uxfi | do all of the html/css files I write go into the html folder in var with apache |
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| 23:44.00 | morf | uxfi: you can say that... but more usual is there is multiple virtual hosts with multiple root directories ... also css/js can be completely outside of document root and i don't think this is the channel to ask |
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| 23:44.26 | uxfi | morf, oh sorry |
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| 23:52.40 | morf | rueda: i have tested it in virtual, and for me it's pretty much the same speed |
| 23:53.29 | tharkun | uxfi: /j #httpd There are some very nice people there. Although the version running on your debian server has some quirks they sometimes complain. |
| 23:53.54 | uxfi | sure thanks |
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