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| 00:01.20 | kion | bonhoeffer, Iptables is not difficult to learn, go and read any of the tutorials that are on the net. |
| 00:01.43 | bonhoeffer | will do |
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| 00:05.15 | kion | bonhoeffer, Basicly when a packet arrives, it travels down the rules (which you have none) under INPUT (in order) and if no rule applies then it applies the default policy, the same applies for packets leaving the system but on the OUTPUT chain. |
| 00:05.53 | bonhoeffer | makes sense |
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| 00:08.23 | kion | bonhoeffer, So the recommended philosophy is to have rules Allowing the traffic that you specificly want, and then apply a Drop policy to deny anything not specificly allowed |
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| 00:26.16 | fdbxnbee | has anyone removed systemd from jessie and still have a working os? |
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| 00:35.58 | sarkis | hey all anyway to force defaults for the questions you get that are like: Configuration file '/etc/logrotate.d/nginx' |
| 00:36.00 | sarkis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.02 | sarkis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.08 | Guest59533 | hi when I try to install vim, why do I get this?: https://www.refheap.com/113971 |
| 00:36.16 | sarkis | i thought -y will assume defaults but no "( |
| 00:36.21 | sarkis | ;( |
| 00:36.54 | Guest59533 | it wants me to install the install flashdrive... ^ |
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| 00:42.02 | Guest59533 | anyone on above query ^^ ? |
| 00:45.50 | wewlad | so you were right |
| 00:46.03 | wewlad | debian became unresponsive once again |
| 00:46.12 | wewlad | I tried to run stuff - it all started just blinking |
| 00:46.32 | wewlad | click anywhere caused all windows to close again and menus blink |
| 00:46.37 | wewlad | so I decided to restart |
| 00:46.52 | wewlad | I rebooted pc and it got stuck on the black screen |
| 00:46.58 | wewlad | after the grub |
| 00:47.03 | wewlad | well, and hanged again |
| 00:47.15 | wewlad | I rebooted again and it just boots straight to BIOS |
| 00:47.31 | wewlad | I rebooted again and again - and it still booted to BIOS |
| 00:47.50 | wewlad | I thought "wtf?" and just wandered in the BIOS menus for a bit |
| 00:48.12 | wewlad | and noticed that the BIOS shows it doesn't see any hdd/ssd any other bootable device |
| 00:48.20 | wewlad | well, it's officially rekt now |
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| 00:54.20 | rudy__ | hello I did a fresh jessie install and cannot install vim after easily installing lynx and xchat. I also did an update. this is the message. thanks https://www.refheap.com/113971 |
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| 00:56.22 | Circuitsoft | rudy__: It's expecting to find that pacakge on the CD. |
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| 00:56.49 | Circuitsoft | If you run "sudo apt-get update" without the CD in the drive, then it shouldn't look there anymore. |
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| 00:57.45 | rudy__ | Circuitsoft, hmm., I did it but it finished updating relatively quickly... thanks. btw the cd was out of the drive when prompted and I did a proper sign in to gnome. |
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| 00:58.06 | rudy__ | when I installed fresh just today |
| 00:58.15 | beepie | Circuitsoft, comment-out cdrom in sources.list. problem solved. |
| 00:58.29 | beepie | or should i say for rudy__ |
| 00:58.58 | rudy__ | beepie, odd, thanks. I have installed jessie a few times, never had this issue. |
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| 00:59.21 | rudy__ | thanks Circuitsoft |
| 01:00.13 | beepie | rudy__, what issue? |
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| 01:00.17 | beepie | rudy__, that's common. |
| 01:00.27 | beepie | rudy__, cdrom by default gets added in debian |
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| 01:05.05 | andril | hello |
| 01:06.08 | andril | is there any way to make terminal transparent in debian 8 |
| 01:06.08 | dimitry7 | hey guys, what can I do to tell $ date to transform this string: 2016-01-17 |
| 01:06.21 | dimitry7 | in the correspoding date: Fri, Sun, etc ? |
| 01:06.33 | dimitry7 | cat thisdate|date '+%a' |
| 01:06.35 | awal1 | rudy__: just let you know that you have 2 choices: comment the cd line in your sources.list file then update/install software from the net (debian repos), it requires internet connection, or install from your cd/dvd images (dont comment cd line in your file) and use debian-update....iso cd/dvd images for update your system when major updates are released |
| 01:06.35 | dimitry7 | didnt work |
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| 01:07.14 | awal1 | simple, so :) |
| 01:07.40 | rudy__ | awall beepie how do I edit that file? I try to use :wq! but it won't let me write. |
| 01:07.51 | rudy__ | in vi |
| 01:07.57 | beepie | rudy__, you can use mcedit (package mc) |
| 01:08.05 | beepie | rudy__, sudo or use root ("su" to login as root) |
| 01:08.17 | rudy__ | thanks hold on |
| 01:08.20 | beepie | rudy__, mcedit or nano is easier to use for new users |
| 01:09.05 | awal1 | rudy__: nano /etc/apt/sources.list then arrange your file |
| 01:09.16 | awal1 | as root, of course |
| 01:09.24 | beepie | he just needs to use "#" at the start of the cdrom line |
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| 01:10.14 | awal1 | rudy__: all what you need is here https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 01:10.30 | awal1 | learning and do things alone is better :) |
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| 01:11.44 | rudy__ | sorry I cannot comment out the deb cdrom line (there are two and the first is already commented. |
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| 01:13.07 | rudy__ | thanks I think I got it. |
| 01:13.16 | dimitry7 | # date -d "2016-01-17" '+%a' |
| 01:13.17 | dimitry7 | thank you |
| 01:13.28 | dimitry7 | thanks himself |
| 01:13.48 | awal1 | if you prefer do that in gui mode try with 'software-propreties-gtk' app |
| 01:14.33 | rudy__ | thanks awall beepie I edited sources.list and it works. |
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| 01:22.45 | beepie | ok |
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| 01:24.01 | zykotick9 | awal1: <sidenote> "apt edit-sources" is a quick shortcut for editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:32.23 | awal1 | izykotick9: hmmm, ok. I dont knew that ;) |
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| 01:32.36 | awal1 | zykotick9 |
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| 01:33.27 | zykotick9 | awal1: it's newish ;) |
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| 01:33.46 | awal1 | zykotick9: newish? |
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| 01:34.42 | zykotick9 | awal1: bonus point is you have tab completion for it (the "apt edi<TAB>" part)? -- i suspect you don't :( |
| 01:35.16 | zykotick9 | s/is you/if you/ |
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| 01:36.39 | awal1 | zykotick9: that a good to know. is all that explained in apt man? |
| 01:37.12 | zykotick9 | awal1: ? i'd have to check |
| 01:37.41 | zykotick9 | awal1: did the tab completion work? |
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| 01:37.58 | awal1 | zykoyick9: never heard about apt edit-sources, I use the classic mode editor /etc/tatata |
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| 01:38.30 | awal1 | zykotick9: haven't tried yet. dinner time now. later I check that :P |
| 01:38.36 | zykotick9 | think awal1 should use tab completion for nicks as well ;) |
| 01:38.47 | awal1 | :D |
| 01:38.58 | markybob | i could see the point of it if it automatically ran apt-get update after...but it doesn't. i don't know why it exists |
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| 01:40.31 | zykotick9 | markybob: ? "apt upgrade" is a neat thing as well... sorta inbetween "apt-get dist-upgrade" and "aptitude safe-upgrade".... /me has become an "apt" fanboy :| |
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| 01:41.33 | zb | im having a problem with logging in/out of kde |
| 01:41.46 | zb | when i log out it doesnt go back to kdm, it just goes to the console |
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| 01:41.56 | zb | and sometimes it doesnt even do that, it just halts the computer |
| 01:42.01 | themill | markybob: just like visudo vs sudo vi â¦, it does some sanity checking on the file before writing it out. |
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| 01:43.05 | zykotick9 | themill: i didn't know that... cool |
| 01:43.18 | themill | (you can also expect it to do more and different things in the future; apt(8) is very much a work in progress and its functions are expected to change as it matures) |
| 01:43.48 | zykotick9 | like the colour in "apt search foo" |
| 01:43.55 | zykotick9 | *likes |
| 01:44.36 | alaunus | Just upgraded my pc to a shiny new SSD; fresh install of Jessie, and my cursor acquired juuuuuuust enough lag/jitter to be *infuriating*. Worked fine with the old drive/install; any ideas what might cause this? |
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| 01:45.26 | beepie | alaunus, sounds like shit |
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| 01:45.43 | beepie | alaunus, try another usb port/ update the video driver (dont use nouveau, maybe nvidia?) |
| 01:45.58 | beepie | alaunus, those things are annoying -- even update the kernel from backports |
| 01:46.07 | beepie | alaunus, use kernel 4.xx instead of 3.16... |
| 01:46.10 | beepie | alaunus, that too |
| 01:48.32 | alaunus | beepie: hmmm - ok, thanks! Tried usb ports the other day and the effect seems to persist. Not using nvidia, but I do have the fglrx ATIProprietary drivers installed. Thought I had backports enabled, too, but I guess not - I'll try updating the kernel now |
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| 01:56.16 | beepie | alaunus, do |
| 01:56.23 | beepie | alaunus, that is very likely to fix it |
| 01:56.56 | beepie | alaunus, i had a similar problem back on kernels 3.x for exactly two separate machines, though they had exactly the same mouse brand |
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| 01:57.27 | alaunus | beepie: Logitech? :) |
| 01:58.19 | beepie | alaunus, yeah lol ... |
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| 01:58.36 | beepie | alaunus, g500 |
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| 01:58.45 | beepie | alaunus, typically .. these are gaming mouse, but they work good for desktop |
| 01:59.06 | beepie | alaunus, it was problematic with two 3.x kernel releases in debian -- but sometime later it got fixed |
| 01:59.29 | alaunus | beepie: I don't have a g500 -- I'm using a performance mx -- but it's good to know I'm not alone |
| 01:59.42 | alaunus | beepie: (brb - restarting with new kernel) |
| 01:59.56 | beepie | alaunus, my suspicion (which is often correct) is the way the debian maintainers are modifying the upstream kernel .. |
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| 02:00.14 | beepie | alaunus, though i do report problems, often they say they can't do anything about it |
| 02:00.41 | beepie | alaunus, here i still have to "build" my own kernel due to some changes debian makes to the upstream kernel -- otherwise nvidia would never work |
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| 02:01.20 | beepie | alaunus, though i certainly have no problem with everything else.. it's only minor issues from my point because i'm used to it, but for any other new user this means to try another distro (generally) |
| 02:01.32 | beepie | alaunus, -- that is if the updates don't work, and so on. |
| 02:01.35 | beepie | alaunus, but |
| 02:01.37 | beepie | alaunus, this is tricky |
| 02:02.00 | beepie | alaunus, because what you also have to do is just up-to-date all the shit in the system -- > "bios", "microcode", kernel and all other packages to be sure |
| 02:02.29 | beepie | alaunus, on a system I have here, "intel gfx" would not work properly if i didn't install the latest intel microcode -- so be sure to do all these |
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| 02:02.48 | beepie | alaunus, unless of course you know how to debug this |
| 02:03.33 | alaunus | beepie: Oh no; debugging it is very much out of my depth (still trying to hunt down a weird zsh bug nobody else can seem to replicate from six months ago, lol) |
| 02:03.47 | beepie | alaunus, also if there's any "firwmare missing" (eg, dmesg |grep fail) -- would this interfere with other devices? possibly -- it's drivers running in kernel space |
| 02:03.51 | Circuitsoft | Is there any way to re-apply /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 02:04.01 | Circuitsoft | It doesn't seem to happen on boot for some odd reason. |
| 02:04.24 | beepie | Circuitsoft, maybe that means debian is finally to be using en* ether names |
| 02:04.27 | alaunus | beepie: no firmware missing issues, though everything *seems* to be working fine now |
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| 02:05.08 | Circuitsoft | No, I have eth0-3. I renamed two of them in that file, but the rename is not being applied, where it has been before. |
| 02:05.33 | beepie | Circuitsoft, even on reboot? |
| 02:05.37 | Circuitsoft | Yes. |
| 02:05.44 | beepie | Circuitsoft, that's weird, |
| 02:05.53 | beepie | Circuitsoft, maybe something with systemd |
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| 02:06.52 | karlpinc | Circuitsoft: If you do "udevadm trigger" does anything change? |
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| 02:07.42 | Circuitsoft | No. |
| 02:07.49 | Circuitsoft | I tried udevadm trigger -vn | less |
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| 02:07.58 | Circuitsoft | I don't see the hardware in question there for some reason. |
| 02:08.21 | Circuitsoft | Oh, wait, nevermind. |
| 02:08.23 | Circuitsoft | I do see it. |
| 02:08.29 | beepie | if it doesnt work on a reboot, then well outta luck |
| 02:08.38 | beepie | maybe you don't have the right syntax in that file |
| 02:08.51 | Circuitsoft | It has worked before, and I haven't changed it since. |
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| 02:21.05 | Circuitsoft | So, if I run udevadm test /sys/class/net/eth{2,3} then it fixes it. |
| 02:21.21 | Circuitsoft | But, I find I need to intentionally bring the link down before udev can rename the device. |
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| 02:30.59 | slothbin | Hello all. I'm new to the community. Now new to Linux but have finally chosen Debian as home. I had a question regarding a few hardware issues with jessie 8. The hardware is alenovo thinkpad yoga. The issue is the sound does not work (Assuming that this is an issue with the sound card driver. Not sure if i would have to find some proprietery driver). Also the screen backlight buttons do not work as well as the red mouse button and the |
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| 02:33.06 | blackpenguin | slothbin: your sound might just be muted, use alsamixer and unmute it by pressing "m" on the muted channel |
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| 02:37.49 | karlpinc | !tell slothbin about alsa checklist |
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| 02:47.34 | slothbin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.17 | Circuitsoft | Run it in a terminal |
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| 02:50.22 | LambdaComplex | thinks he's gonna try Debian |
| 02:50.44 | Circuitsoft | LambdaComplex: Don't - it'll make you hate everything else... |
| 02:51.08 | LambdaComplex | Circuitsoft: Oh? Why's that? :P |
| 02:51.31 | Circuitsoft | Sorry, I've just spent the last four hours trying to do something on CentOS that took five minutes on Debian. |
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| 02:52.15 | LambdaComplex | Circuitsoft: What were you doing exactly? |
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| 02:52.36 | Circuitsoft | Using Host Filesystem Sharing in virt-manager/libvirt. |
| 02:52.49 | Circuitsoft | On the client side, it uses a variation on Plan 9 Filesystem. |
| 02:53.01 | Circuitsoft | Debian and derivatives have that enabled in the stock kernel. |
| 02:53.07 | Circuitsoft | RHEL does not. |
| 02:53.30 | LambdaComplex | Basically, I've been using Arch for the last year, and feel like giving something new a try |
| 02:53.33 | Circuitsoft | And the disk that I had set aside for root, planning to use filesystem passthrough for most tasks, wasn't big enough to handle a kernel recompile. |
| 02:53.48 | LambdaComplex | Mostly because Debian does some things way better than Arch |
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| 02:54.03 | Circuitsoft | LambdaComplex: I use Arch on one of my laptops. I actually don't mind going back and forth between them. |
| 02:55.08 | LambdaComplex | Arch is great! Unfortunately, the popular idea that it's based around user choice is false |
| 02:55.23 | LambdaComplex | The reality is that the entire point of Arch is "simplicity" -- from the developers' perspectives. |
| 02:55.24 | Circuitsoft | ? |
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| 02:55.41 | Circuitsoft | And, to me, that makes perfect sense. |
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| 02:56.03 | LambdaComplex | Eh, I'd prefer more focus on the user :P |
| 02:56.12 | LambdaComplex | Is splitting packages to prevent bloat that hard? |
| 02:56.32 | LambdaComplex | (Apparently it is) |
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| 02:57.11 | Circuitsoft | I guess, having come from Gentoo, it doesn't seem that bad to me. |
| 02:57.27 | LambdaComplex | I'm pretty sure Arch packages are more bloated than Gentoo's |
| 02:57.37 | LambdaComplex | And definitely moreso than Debian's |
| 02:57.45 | LambdaComplex | Arch just packages development headers in the main packages |
| 02:57.53 | LambdaComplex | Which is a complete waste of space if you're not gonna be compiling them |
| 02:58.06 | Hello71 | at least they don't come with debug symbols |
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| 02:58.57 | LambdaComplex | Hello71: Which? |
| 02:59.01 | Hello71 | arch packages. |
| 02:59.16 | Hello71 | but they're almost always monolithic, unlike debian where you find 20 packages for 1 program |
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| 03:00.32 | LambdaComplex | Hello71: It's the monolithic-ness I'm complaining about |
| 03:00.46 | Hello71 | I don't believe I took a position on the matter. |
| 03:01.17 | LambdaComplex | Arch is supposedely about "choice"...except when it isn't |
| 03:01.24 | LambdaComplex | Wanna use an init system besides systemd? Too bad! |
| 03:01.37 | LambdaComplex | Wanna install the ssh client but not the server? too bad! |
| 03:01.51 | LambdaComplex | Or just use ABS and noextract and manually specify every single file you wanna exclue |
| 03:01.58 | LambdaComplex | Because that's such a great option |
| 03:02.21 | LambdaComplex | Hm, apparently I have a completely empty 150 GB ext4 partition. Neat! |
| 03:02.32 | LambdaComplex | I'm guessing 50 GB would be plenty for a basic Debian install? |
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| 03:03.12 | Hello71 | actually I think other init systems are supported |
| 03:03.17 | Circuitsoft | LambdaComplex: Many of mine are <8GiB. |
| 03:03.30 | LambdaComplex | Hello71: On Arch? Nope |
| 03:04.02 | Hello71 | and even Gentoo doesn't support decoupling the server and client |
| 03:04.12 | LambdaComplex | Well, Debian does :P |
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| 03:04.58 | Circuitsoft | LambdaComplex: Try Yocto Linux. |
| 03:04.59 | Hello71 | but you *can* remove openssl support |
| 03:05.05 | LambdaComplex | Circuitsoft: Never heard of it |
| 03:05.07 | LambdaComplex | googles |
| 03:05.33 | Circuitsoft | It's like Gentoo, but it decouples binary and dev packages. |
| 03:05.37 | Circuitsoft | And defaults to a squashfs root. |
| 03:05.38 | Yukiteru | LambdaComplex, my install for Debian is < 12 GB |
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| 03:05.55 | LambdaComplex | Circuitsoft: Interesting |
| 03:05.59 | Yukiteru | and use a complete GNOME |
| 03:06.10 | LambdaComplex | Yukiteru: Impressive |
| 03:06.17 | Circuitsoft | LambdaComplex: Really, it'd be more correct to call Yocto a build system than a distribution. |
| 03:07.53 | LambdaComplex | Okay, question time |
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| 03:08.04 | LambdaComplex | Debian has Stable, Testing, and Unstable, right? |
| 03:09.16 | Circuitsoft | There's also Experimental, but don't go there unless you have to. |
| 03:09.38 | Circuitsoft | Debian Experimental is equivalent to gentoo ACCEPT_FLAGS=** |
| 03:09.52 | LambdaComplex | Is Unstable the rolling one? |
| 03:10.01 | Circuitsoft | yes |
| 03:10.23 | Circuitsoft | Testing also rolls, but it slows down as release date approaches, until it turns into stable. |
| 03:10.27 | LambdaComplex | How is that compared to Arch? |
| 03:10.35 | LambdaComplex | Like, with Arch, only one package version is supported at a time |
| 03:10.41 | Hello71 | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. |
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| 03:10.54 | Circuitsoft | Hello71: You're right - it's been a while for me. |
| 03:11.13 | Circuitsoft | LambdaComplex: Unstable/Sid is probably directly comparable to Arch |
| 03:11.27 | Circuitsoft | Experimental would be more like running exclusively from AUR. |
| 03:11.35 | LambdaComplex | Or [testing] |
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| 03:11.51 | jair | hello debian family, I am working on configuring a linux vistual server:ãhttp://paste.debian.net/367355/ |
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| 03:11.59 | Circuitsoft | Testing starts as a fork of Unstable, then gradually stabilizes until release. |
| 03:12.18 | LambdaComplex | I was talking Arch's testing |
| 03:12.43 | Hello71 | experimental is even more unstable than [testing]. some packages in there are known ahead of time to be broken |
| 03:13.03 | LambdaComplex | How easy/difficult is it to switch amongst stable, unstable, and testing? |
| 03:13.08 | Hello71 | that's in the faq |
| 03:13.34 | LambdaComplex | I should probably go find that faq :D |
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| 03:13.59 | jair | I wonder if anyone have had the experience on configuring a linux virtual server using debian |
| 03:15.20 | beepie | jair, there's more than one type of virtualization solution on linux |
| 03:15.37 | beepie | jair, or.. |
| 03:15.44 | jair | beepie: sure I am sure of that I am using the round robin one |
| 03:15.49 | beepie | jair, it can be that you're trying to use virtualbox? |
| 03:15.54 | zykotick9 | LambdaComplex: stable->testing->unstable is relatively strait forward, but there is no going back! /me considers testing or unstable a "downgrade" from stable, but ymmv... |
| 03:15.58 | beepie | oh |
| 03:16.55 | jair | beepie: that is correct I have the environment running on virtual box |
| 03:17.13 | Hello71 | zykotick9: technically you can wait for the next release cycle then you'll be back, guaranteed :P |
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| 03:17.31 | LambdaComplex | zykotick9: Well, the site says that stable is the only one managed by the security team, so I guess I'll go with stable :P |
| 03:17.36 | beepie | jair, i'm not sure what that is |
| 03:17.41 | zykotick9 | Hello71: yes, that's certainly a boarderline case, but correct ;) |
| 03:17.46 | jair | beepie: I believe I missed a command |
| 03:18.28 | beepie | jair, the manpage should say how to use any netmask |
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| 03:18.38 | beepie | jair, (man ipvadm) |
| 03:18.46 | beepie | ./ipvsadm |
| 03:19.26 | beepie | (-M) |
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| 03:20.03 | jair | beepie: I believe I missed this command: ipvsadm -A -t 10.0.0.40:80 -s rr |
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| 03:20.06 | Hello71 | LambdaComplex: it's also notorious for being about 2 years behind the latest software |
| 03:20.41 | beepie | jair, that looks like advanced things, you running this in a uni? |
| 03:20.43 | LambdaComplex | Hello71: Stable? |
| 03:21.04 | beepie | jair, sorry i have no experience with that |
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| 03:22.56 | jair | beepie: I got it ^^ |
| 03:23.08 | jair | beepie: I was missing that first command |
| 03:24.38 | LambdaComplex | what does "stretch" mean in a debootstrap command? |
| 03:25.17 | markybob | LambdaComplex, stretch is the current name for testing |
| 03:25.23 | jair | beepie: http://paste.debian.net/367356/ |
| 03:25.26 | jair | ^^ |
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| 03:28.41 | LambdaComplex | alright, someone tell me if this looks right |
| 03:28.52 | LambdaComplex | debootstrap --arch amd64 jessie /mnt/ http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 03:29.13 | Circuitsoft | Yup. |
| 03:29.15 | Circuitsoft | That's what I use. |
| 03:29.19 | Circuitsoft | What system are you doing that from? |
| 03:29.26 | LambdaComplex | Arch |
| 03:29.30 | Circuitsoft | Do you have binutils? |
| 03:29.54 | Circuitsoft | debootstrap relies on the ar utility from binutils. |
| 03:29.59 | LambdaComplex | Yep |
| 03:30.19 | Circuitsoft | I made a patch for debootstrap to be able to use bsdtar instead, but I never got around to submitting it. |
| 03:31.04 | LambdaComplex | Why not? D: |
| 03:31.18 | Circuitsoft | Maybe I did. I don't remember. |
| 03:31.38 | LambdaComplex | Heck, make it support curl in place of wget while you're at it :P |
| 03:31.40 | Circuitsoft | I just wrote it and applied it manually while trying to use debootstrap from the arch livecd. |
| 03:32.07 | LambdaComplex | Arch livecd is best livecd <3 |
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| 03:34.03 | Circuitsoft | Personally, I really like sysresccd. |
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| 03:49.19 | Undefineid | Hi all |
| 03:49.30 | Undefineid | Anyone can help me ? |
| 03:49.38 | dvs | !ask |
| 03:49.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 03:50.46 | Undefineid | Ok, so i have install virtualbox guest additions. And now i can't use my mouse and my keyboard on my VM |
| 03:51.09 | Hello71 | debian version? host? guest? |
| 03:51.18 | Undefineid | host win10 |
| 03:51.23 | Undefineid | debian guest |
| 03:51.37 | Undefineid | last version of debian |
| 03:51.47 | quantic | Undefineid: Did you install the actual guest additions, or the open-vm-tools package from the repos? |
| 03:52.04 | Undefineid | no the actuel guest additions |
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| 03:52.43 | quantic | Undefineid: Remove them and try the open-vm-tools-desktop package. |
| 03:52.52 | Undefineid | How remove them |
| 03:52.59 | quantic | Undefineid: Even VMware recommends doing so for VMware Workstation/ESXi. |
| 03:53.08 | quantic | Undefineid: You can probably Google that. |
| 03:53.23 | Undefineid | Google can't help me |
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| 03:54.10 | Undefineid | I can't access to the .iso and i rm the folder in opt Vboxguestadditions |
| 03:54.28 | Undefineid | Euh no launch uninstall.sh |
| 03:54.33 | Undefineid | Didn't work |
| 03:54.51 | quantic | ... Uh, yeah, I'm fairly sure Google can help you, because I'm looking over the instructions right now. |
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| 04:03.00 | lerner | sudo lvcreate -L 1G -n Vol1 < how do I edit that, so the logical volume is created on /dev/sdc? |
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| 04:06.42 | Undefineid | didn't work |
| 04:06.48 | Undefineid | I can't do nothing |
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| 04:09.00 | donttrustem | hi guys, I am runnig Debian 7 and come up against this error when trying to install Ruby $ source ~/.profile -su: 4: source: not found |
| 04:09.20 | donttrustem | I am not sure what is causing the error |
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| 04:11.34 | j__ | when will inkscape be upgraded? Is there anything in backports? |
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| 04:18.38 | tabris|away | donttrustem: so what's in your .profile ? |
| 04:19.28 | tabris|away | donttrustem: it sounds like your .profile is trying to include another bash file, which is missing (or maybe it's getting confused with 'source' vs '.'. which would depens on which shell is being used) |
| 04:20.03 | donttrustem | tabris|away: I am installing openproject manualy https://www.openproject.org/open-source/manual-installation/manual-installation-guide/ and at the install of ruby |
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| 04:20.45 | markybob | j__, https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/inkscape |
| 04:21.02 | donttrustem | echo 'export PATH="$HOME/.rbenv/bin:$PATH"' >> ~/.profile and this echo 'eval "$(rbenv init -)"' >> ~/.profile are in the profile |
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| 04:22.35 | slak3 | I would like help in instalation debian 8 on macbook pro c2duo |
| 04:22.50 | slak3 | Somebody help me? |
| 04:23.30 | slak3 | And i can't found the instalation in android marahmallow moto g3rd |
| 04:23.59 | markybob | what? |
| 04:24.25 | donttrustem | markybob: any ideas? |
| 04:25.18 | donttrustem | ooks like it cannot find rbenv |
| 04:25.59 | LambdaComplex | I think the page for installing Debian from an existing Linux system sucks |
| 04:26.28 | slak3 | I tryed |
| 04:26.34 | slak3 | Not success |
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| 04:28.42 | themill | LambdaComplex: it tells you what you need to do if you really want to install that way. If you have concrete suggestions of how documentation can be improved, then follow the instructions in the document. |
| 04:32.18 | LambdaComplex | themill: Does it though? The first time I tried to install makedev, it failed, because sh wasn't in my path. Because I needed to source /etc/profile. Which wasn't mentioned. |
| 04:32.38 | LambdaComplex | And you say "if you really want to install that way" as if it's somehow not a valid way of installing. |
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| 04:34.07 | themill | if you've not got sh in your path then you've got a very strange unix indeed and if it's that strange, then just telling you to source /etc/profile isn't going to be a common solution |
| 04:34.32 | LambdaComplex | I didn't have sh in my path after chrooting |
| 04:34.35 | themill | (and I think I can count on one hand the number people I know of who have ever installed that way, so no, it's not a common way) |
| 04:35.26 | themill | What sort of unix doesn't have /bin in $PATH? |
| 04:35.39 | LambdaComplex | Arch |
| 04:35.52 | themill | giggles |
| 04:36.20 | slothbin | Anyone know the terminal command ofr the alsa mixer |
| 04:36.23 | LambdaComplex | What's funny about that? |
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| 04:36.29 | LambdaComplex | slothbin: Uh...`alsamixer`? |
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| 04:36.50 | markybob | according to their wiki it has it |
| 04:37.01 | LambdaComplex | markybob: Link? |
| 04:37.03 | themill | LambdaComplex: please do file a bug report though suggesting that some base systems with non-standard environments will need to have the environment normalised when entering the chroot. |
| 04:37.06 | markybob | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/environment_variables |
| 04:37.24 | markybob | note the /bin/ls mention |
| 04:37.33 | slothbin | haha thank you Lamb.... |
| 04:37.58 | LambdaComplex | markybob: Yeah, it does, because /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin |
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| 04:38.39 | lerner | im working with logical volumes. Apparently there is a step between pvcreate and lvcreate, but I dont know the name... |
| 04:39.05 | themill | LambdaComplex: anyway, we've got from "that page sucks" to "arch does something really unexpected and no-one has reported that and so the documentation doesn't cover that case". |
| 04:40.12 | LambdaComplex | themill: More like we've gone from "that page sucks" to "assuming that the environment outside the chroot will be the same as the environment inside the chroot isn't always a good assumption" |
| 04:40.16 | LambdaComplex | But close enough I guess |
| 04:40.54 | LambdaComplex | Heck, I'll go ask #archlinux why /usr/bin is used. I'm kinda curious |
| 04:42.06 | themill | if you're installing that way, it's expected you're going to be able to work through little issues like that. |
| 04:42.33 | themill | We have installer images if you want a controlled environment |
| 04:42.57 | themill | All we can do is document the weirdness that exists based on what users test and report. |
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| 04:45.18 | LambdaComplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.22 | LambdaComplex | Yep, sounds like Arch :P |
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| 04:46.37 | themill | Several distros are merging /usr like that and it probably makes sense in the long run. There will be all manner of fallout from the process. |
| 04:48.39 | LambdaComplex | Apparently it did require some user intervention on Arch when it happened |
| 04:49.28 | LambdaComplex | What's Debian's default init system? |
| 04:50.43 | markybob | LambdaComplex, jessie and later uses systemd |
| 04:51.48 | LambdaComplex | so...how exactly should networking be configured? |
| 04:52.01 | LambdaComplex | the fact that the example given on that page mentions "eth0" makes me think it might be outdated |
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| 04:57.15 | themill | nothing wrong with eth0 |
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| 05:00.04 | LambdaComplex | themill: Works for me :D |
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| 05:10.34 | wonderfulmee | how come apt-torrent update is still not a thing? |
| 05:11.03 | jair | hello guys anyone using debian as linux virtual server load balancer: https://paste.debian.net/367361/ |
| 05:11.07 | wonderfulmee | the mirrors are slow |
| 05:11.15 | wonderfulmee | jair: nope. go away. |
| 05:12.28 | slak3 | Brazilians here? |
| 05:12.56 | wonderfulmee | torrenting would actually improve your experience with apt dist-upgrade |
| 05:13.24 | themill | it exists but any decent mirror can saturate your connection anyway |
| 05:14.00 | slothbin | Anyone know what defualt or proper audio driver should be selected for a modern thinkpad ? I;ve tried the HDA Intel PCH and the Thinkpad Console Audio Control. When I open alsamixer for the card and chip im getting Pulseaudio. I have made sure nothing is muted and checked all channels. Still no sound. Also checked /usr/share/alsa/ and played a WAv file but still no audio output. |
| 05:14.31 | jair | wonderfulmee: I really hope one of the channel administrators notice how unfriendly and troll is wonderfulmee being right now |
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| 05:15.45 | wonderfulmee | but is he yet wonderful кбÑнамаÑÑ? |
| 05:16.49 | jair | slak3: I eu falo poco ^^ |
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| 05:17.23 | wonderfulmee | ÐÑÑÐ¼Ð¸Ð»Ñ - наÑи, напÑимеÑ. |
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| 05:17.54 | wonderfulmee | Do you even talk with each other? |
| 05:19.05 | LambdaComplex | slothbin: Do you have pavucontrol installed? |
| 05:19.21 | wonderfulmee | pavucontrol is essential |
| 05:19.33 | wonderfulmee | that's serious shit |
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| 05:20.39 | wonderfulmee | Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð½Ð¸Ð¼Ð°Ñ, ÑÑо Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ Ð¼ÑжÑÐ¸Ð½Ñ - аÑÑиÑÑÑ. |
| 05:21.11 | wonderfulmee | но жкнÑÐ¼Ñ Ð¾ÑÐµÐ½Ñ ÑаÑкÑепоÑÑннÑе. |
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| 05:23.43 | wonderfulmee | where do you catch the most tuna? |
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| 05:25.02 | wonderfulmee | y'all speak english, you're just putting on air. |
| 05:25.55 | wonderfulmee | donald disney mickey mouse? |
| 05:26.30 | wonderfulmee | кÑÑÐ¸Ð»Ñ |
| 05:26.53 | wonderfulmee | кÑÑилÑÑкие оÑÑÑова |
| 05:27.31 | wonderfulmee | ÑÐ¾Ð»ÐºÑ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ, конеÑно, пиздеÑ. |
| 05:28.40 | wonderfulmee | в Ñак Ñебе ÑмÑÑле. |
| 05:28.57 | markybob | wonderfulmee, please stop. |
| 05:29.08 | wonderfulmee | will do. |
| 05:30.02 | wonderfulmee | но можно один какой-нибÑÐ´Ñ Ð¸Ð½Ð¾ÑÑÑаннÑй ÑзÑк вÑÑÑиÑÑ? |
| 05:30.14 | markybob | !ru |
| 05:30.14 | dpkg | ÐÑо английÑкоговоÑÑÑий канал, пожалÑйÑÑа, говоÑиÑе по-английÑки или поÑеÑиÑе #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 05:33.26 | jair | hello guys anyone using debian as linux virtual server load balancer: https://paste.debian.net/367361/ I am having that "Memory allocation problem" error |
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| 05:34.58 | wonderfulmee | try using nginx, for a change. |
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| 05:37.35 | wonderfulmee | also what have the firewall rules got to do with that |
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| 05:41.42 | wonderfulmee | пÑавила Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ Ð¸Ð½ÑеÑеÑнÑе. какÑÑ Ð¸Ð¼ÐµÐ½Ð½Ð¾ нагÑÑÐ·ÐºÑ Ð²Ñ Ñам баланÑиÑÑеÑе? |
| 05:42.22 | markybob | wonderfulmee, again, this is english only channel. what don't you understand? |
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| 05:44.50 | wonderfulmee | markybob, I'm in awe of that particular load balancing strategy. Nope, I ain't. Would that do? |
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| 05:51.55 | wonderfulme | I actually want a pizza. A proper mozzarella and sausage pizza. |
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| 05:53.01 | markybob | wonderfulme, yeah, we all knew you were spamming/trolling. no one is giving you any mind |
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| 05:53.28 | wonderfulme | I also got cheese sauce. Which is tastes a lot like mayo and tears. |
| 05:53.49 | wonderfulme | markybob: did I step on your daughter? |
| 05:54.03 | wonderfulme | which is tastes |
| 05:55.13 | jair | is there any channel admin around GOD please? |
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| 05:58.25 | wonderfulmee | there isn't and you're likely going to Syria. |
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| 06:04.50 | wonderfulmee | Oscars 2016: Charlotte Rampling says diversity row is 'racist to white people' |
| 06:05.22 | wonderfulmee | Charlote speaks like it is. |
| 06:06.04 | wonderfulmee | Charlotte, tu es mon coeur. |
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| 06:06.22 | markybob | jelly, thank you |
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| 06:12.17 | jair | hello jelly |
| 06:12.39 | jair | have you seen or hear about this: https://paste.debian.net/367361/ |
| 06:12.45 | jair | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/367361/ |
| 06:13.02 | jair | jelly: I am getting that message over and over again and I believe is a bug |
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| 06:13.37 | jair | this morning I did the configuration using http port 80 and testing two apache web servers |
| 06:14.01 | jelly | jair: I have no idea what ipvsadm is, sorry |
| 06:14.44 | jair | jelly: ok thank you |
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| 06:25.53 | insaneinside | Looking for help on getting my X server working with input hotplugging -- looks like systemd-logind is being an asshole and preventing X server from using input devices? Debian bug #809069 seems to sum it up; running testing/unstable here. |
| 06:25.55 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/809069 in systemd (open): «logind sometimes blocks input to X after VT switch»; severity: important; opened: 2015-12-26; last modified: 2015-12-26. |
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| 06:26.53 | insaneinside | is there a way to disable this "feature" of systemd-logind? |
| 06:27.06 | beepie | insaneinside, yeah |
| 06:27.12 | beepie | insaneinside, you mean tty1-tty6? |
| 06:27.34 | anonnumberanon | I'm looking for a wifi card for my desktop is this good? I care about it supporting free software: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDN4800-Wireless-Express-Low-profile/dp/B007GMPZ0A/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1453530272&sr=1-2&keywords=wifi+card |
| 06:27.38 | anonnumberanon | Not sure if it does. |
| 06:27.48 | beepie | anonnumberanon, anything intel wifi will work with linux |
| 06:27.53 | anonnumberanon | It isn't on this page: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 06:28.00 | zykotick9 | insaneinside: you _might_ want to try #debian-next on OFTC... |
| 06:28.18 | beepie | tp-link is good imho for linux |
| 06:28.56 | zykotick9 | anonnumberanon: if you're looking for "free" driver support, i'd check h-node.org |
| 06:29.17 | insaneinside | zykotick9: why's that? |
| 06:29.23 | anonnumberanon | beepie, I don't see it on the Debian Wifi page. |
| 06:29.33 | beepie | anonnumberanon, ah |
| 06:29.39 | beepie | be careful that is atheros |
| 06:29.41 | anonnumberanon | its connector is PCI express |
| 06:29.55 | zykotick9 | insaneinside: well... that's where people running testing/sid hang out... AND that's the support channel for testing and sid... |
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| 06:30.06 | beepie | checks https://wikidevi.com/wiki/List_of_Wi-Fi_Device_IDs_in_Linux |
| 06:30.22 | insaneinside | zykotick9: ah, good argument. You win! :) |
| 06:30.23 | beepie | that chipset goes back to 20010 |
| 06:30.25 | beepie | ./2010 |
| 06:30.45 | beepie | so in essence it should work, there are tp-links that work good i think in general -- but always check the chipset |
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| 06:30.57 | beepie | https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Special:Ask?title=Special%3AAsk&q=%5B%5BVendor+ID::168c%5D%5D+%5B%5BDevice+ID::0030%5D%5D&po=%3FInterface%0D%0A%3FFCC+ID%0D%0A%3FManuf%0D%0A%3FManuf+product+model%0D%0A%3FVendor+ID%0D%0A%3FDevice+ID%0D%0A%3FSubvendor+ID%0D%0A%3FSubdevice+ID%0D%0A%3FChip1+model%0D%0A%3FChip2+model%0D%0A%3FChip3+model%0D%0A%3FSupported+802dot11+protocols=PHY+modes%0D%0A%3FMIMO+config%0D%0A%3FOUI%0D%0A%3FEstimated+year+of+re |
| 06:30.57 | beepie | lease=Est.+year&eq=yes&p%5Bformat%5D=broadtable&order%5B0%5D=ASC&sort_num=&order_num=ASC&p%5Blimit%5D=500&p%5Boffset%5D=&p%5Blink%5D=all&p%5Bsort%5D=&p%5Bheaders%5D=show&p%5Bmainlabel%5D=&p%5Bintro%5D=&p%5Boutro%5D=&p%5Bsearchlabel%5D=%E2%80%A6+further+results&p%5Bdefault%5D=&p%5Bclass%5D=sortable+wikitable+smwtable |
| 06:31.01 | beepie | ^ says tp-link 4800 |
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| 06:31.30 | beepie | so you should be good |
| 06:31.39 | digidog | hm, how do you what call your install folder in ~/home, where all the git clone folders and expanded zips are stored in, and from where you symlink the executables then to your ~/bin ? |
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| 06:32.16 | beepie | digidog, you can call it anything |
| 06:32.29 | digidog | yeah I know, beepie :) |
| 06:32.35 | beepie | digidog, there's no spec, but commonly people like to use ~/bin for things of all sorts -- it's a bit messy to be honest |
| 06:32.51 | beepie | digidog, here i tend to just use ~/local and then make sub-folders for static tarball applications |
| 06:33.07 | digidog | exactly ;) but still, after many years Linux I wonder if there is a "almost" standart way |
| 06:33.21 | beepie | there isn't but there is for system which is /usr/local/ |
| 06:33.27 | digidog | beepie: ^^was for the reply before |
| 06:33.29 | beepie | or even /opt |
| 06:33.44 | digidog | beepie: bingo! opt was on my list. now we are two :) |
| 06:33.55 | beepie | for system-- that means it's available for all users |
| 06:34.16 | digidog | beepie: I know ;) wasnt a noob Q, just thinking loud |
| 06:34.26 | beepie | you can also make symlinks to things in /usr/local/bin to other things in /opt |
| 06:34.36 | beepie | so all users can have something /usr/local/bin in $PATH |
| 06:35.03 | digidog | beepie: stop stop stop :) THis is very noce of you, but I know that. |
| 06:35.11 | digidog | beepie++ |
| 06:35.13 | beepie | for anyone else you might be helping |
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| 06:35.19 | anonnumberanon | Is there a best wifi card for desktop for Linux? |
| 06:35.24 | beepie | anonnumberanon, intel |
| 06:35.34 | anonnumberanon | that's not a wifi card |
| 06:35.34 | beepie | anonnumberanon, though they sometimes (often actually) need binary |
| 06:35.41 | beepie | anonnumberanon, intel chipsets? |
| 06:35.42 | slothbin | Anyone know how i can make my gnome deb system super light weight. Like how do i keep gnome but disable the fancy graphical ui, how can i log on from just a console. Things of that nature. Basically just to lighten it up. |
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| 06:35.44 | anonnumberanon | being pedantic but i need a model and brand |
| 06:35.59 | beepie | anonnumberanon, linux drivers don't care about the assembler company.. it works by chipsets |
| 06:36.20 | digidog | beepie: its very kind of you, thanks! :) I tend to opt atm now .... |
| 06:36.28 | beepie | digidog, though |
| 06:36.39 | beepie | digidog, google-chrome anally uses /opt/ |
| 06:36.51 | beepie | digidog, so a few packages that are non-free can dump things in /opt |
| 06:36.56 | digidog | beepie: yep. ardour two |
| 06:37.11 | digidog | beepie: oops, did. ardour is now in share I think |
| 06:37.31 | beepie | anonnumberanon, that one should be fine |
| 06:37.35 | beepie | anonnumberanon, the one you mentioned |
| 06:37.47 | anonnumberanon | Looks like this one is Intel http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Bluetooth-Expansion-Components-GC-WB867D-I/dp/B00HF8K0O6/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1453530272&sr=1-5&keywords=wifi+card |
| 06:37.56 | beepie | anonnumberanon, it'll work because the chipset has been around -- atheros used to be much more problematic in the past |
| 06:38.03 | beepie | anonnumberanon, i think it has improved |
| 06:38.10 | anonnumberanon | Yeah? |
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| 06:38.24 | anonnumberanon | athk9 would be the driver I think maybe I mispelled it |
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| 06:38.37 | beepie | anonnumberanon, though i would place my bet on intel. because intel completely is behind (one of the top) driver supporters on linux |
| 06:38.50 | beepie | anonnumberanon, intel is always improving their driver code |
| 06:38.56 | anonnumberanon | So politically better to buy Intel? |
| 06:39.03 | beepie | anonnumberanon, not politically. technically :) |
| 06:39.05 | digidog | anonnumberanon: I run about 8 machines here from very differnet age and vendor incl diff parts in and there is not eve n one havong any driver issues etc. I think this was more a real prob in the past. but sure, it is always better to ask. |
| 06:39.21 | digidog | *dffierent* |
| 06:39.23 | beepie | digidog, he's asking about tp-link 4800n |
| 06:39.29 | beepie | digidog, and the stability of ath9k |
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| 06:39.34 | digidog | *dfferent* |
| 06:39.38 | digidog | LOL |
| 06:39.39 | beepie | its driver has been around for quite some time |
| 06:39.40 | digidog | jesus! |
| 06:39.48 | digidog | my typo today |
| 06:40.09 | digidog | sry guys ... |
| 06:40.16 | beepie | digidog, unfortunately i wish there is more transparency.. here i use that wifi linux site -- it'll give a status on operation |
| 06:40.35 | anonnumberanon | I'm also asking for that second card I linked. It's made by Gygabyte which is awesome, has great reviews, is prices reasonably, also does Bluetooth, has Intel chipset. |
| 06:40.58 | beepie | anonnumberanon, https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers |
| 06:41.18 | beepie | anonnumberanon, i have an atheros and i think it works fine (old laptop) |
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| 06:41.54 | beepie | anonnumberanon, you can check this list as well https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath9k |
| 06:42.06 | anonnumberanon | I have the Intel ultimate in my Lenove T420, it's always been great. |
| 06:42.18 | LambdaComplex | Dumb question time! Does Debian still come with aptitude? |
| 06:42.31 | slothbin | yes |
| 06:42.48 | beepie | anonnumberanon, "The card is fully supported by the kernel module ath9k." http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/ca/2012-11-01-tp-link-tl-wdn4800-wireless-n-dual-band-pcie-450mbps |
| 06:43.03 | beepie | LambdaComplex, has to be manually installed possibly |
| 06:43.18 | LambdaComplex | I'm gonna vote beepie is right considering debootstrap didn't install it |
| 06:43.28 | anonnumberanon | Nice. |
| 06:44.09 | beepie | gdebi-core is one i recommend -- for certain .deb (not in repo), you dont need to do dpkg -i .deb followed by apt-get -f install |
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| 06:45.24 | beepie | this can be useful for triyng or fixing packages from sid without needing to throw in massive package updates -- be it third party or from side |
| 06:45.30 | beepie | ./sid/.. |
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| 06:45.50 | plshalpmee | hi there :P |
| 06:46.23 | anonnumberanon | Should I go with the Gigabyte one? |
| 06:47.07 | plshalpmee | Why can't I use sudo in debian |
| 06:47.10 | plshalpmee | is the command different? |
| 06:47.31 | slothbin | have to add account to sudoer list |
| 06:47.49 | plshalpmee | how? |
| 06:47.50 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, at the beginning it's always like this, are you at the beginning? |
| 06:47.52 | beepie | by default i think sudo group is defined in sudoers file, so all needed is to add that user to group sudo |
| 06:48.35 | plshalpmee | anoon maybe I am :P |
| 06:48.43 | anonnumberanon | yeah |
| 06:48.50 | anonnumberanon | it involves doing su first |
| 06:48.54 | anonnumberanon | so you're root |
| 06:49.09 | anonnumberanon | then add the user to sudo |
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| 06:49.28 | anonnumberanon | there is a command like "adduser theusername sudo" |
| 06:49.42 | anonnumberanon | or something like that, google it, not doing it right will make you sad |
| 06:50.05 | beepie | anonnumberanon, man visudo |
| 06:51.17 | plshalpmee | Also what enviroment would you recommend for a newbie? |
| 06:51.19 | anonnumberanon | doesn't look like it has useful commands for a beginner... |
| 06:51.20 | zykotick9 | plshalpmee: be sure sudo is installed as well... "apt-cache policy sudo" is one way to check. |
| 06:51.36 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, the very last Debian, with XFCE |
| 06:52.05 | plshalpmee | why not gnome? |
| 06:52.28 | anonnumberanon | Dunno, I tried it and Ubuntu a few times and it wasn't working stably. |
| 06:53.03 | zykotick9 | plshalpmee: what DE you use... is totally user preference. being new doesn't have much to do with it. |
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| 06:56.58 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, if you're gonna be programming, make sure you research and try all the editors and IDEs very well, if just regular user, learn Bash and yeah, Gnome can be better than others cause it holds your hand more, but that's kinda bloated. |
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| 07:00.23 | beepie | plshalpmee, Kdevelop and anjuta are pretty simple |
| 07:00.32 | beepie | plshalpmee, depends on how well the language is supported |
| 07:00.41 | plshalpmee | what language ? |
| 07:00.51 | beepie | plshalpmee, c/c++ .. the standard |
| 07:00.57 | plshalpmee | oh |
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| 07:01.49 | beepie | plshalpmee, eclipse is very well suited for java, though it has gained support for many languages over the years -- it has industry backing and is constantly being updated |
| 07:01.57 | beepie | plshalpmee, eclipse is also a good choice imho |
| 07:02.06 | beepie | plshalpmee, it's got hundreds of plugins |
| 07:02.48 | plshalpmee | beepie so debian is only used to develop code? |
| 07:03.50 | azizLIGHT | when i try to ssh, it is not connected, nor giving an error, its just blinking cursor with no exit. what is going on |
| 07:04.22 | beepie | plshalpmee, these packages are available in the repos. |
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| 07:04.30 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, it's used for anything but just "not really good for games" yet |
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| 07:04.44 | anonnumberanon | since developers don't make their games for Linux |
| 07:04.51 | beepie | plshalpmee, they're taken from "upstream" |
| 07:05.06 | beepie | plshalpmee, the majority of the software opensource doesn't come from the debian project.. |
| 07:05.15 | beepie | plshalpmee, i think you're mixing things up |
| 07:05.16 | zykotick9 | anonnumberanon: you realize SteamOS is based on debian right? just sayin' |
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| 07:05.22 | beepie | plshalpmee, as any linux distro does the same as well |
| 07:05.31 | beepie | plshalpmee, takes opensource from upstream, and then packages them |
| 07:05.35 | swift110-phone | Hey |
| 07:06.11 | plshalpmee | Is there anything official yet on Ian Murdock's death? |
| 07:06.45 | anonnumberanon | zykotick9, I don't know of Steam OS. |
| 07:06.53 | zykotick9 | plshalpmee: from /topic "Ian Murdock -> #debian-offtopic" |
| 07:07.32 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, yeah, this entire channel will die with him, sad huh? |
| 07:07.51 | diwakar | even though I have only a getty@tty1.service file, why do I autologin on other ttys as well? Is there some way to auto login to tty1 only? |
| 07:07.59 | plshalpmee | why will it die? |
| 07:08.00 | zykotick9 | anonnumberanon: Steam is the game delivery system... it's in the non-free repo on debian... steamos is there distro/thing... |
| 07:09.17 | anonnumberanon | You can play games that are only for Windows on SteamOS, and use SteamOS as a full Linux distro for everything else than gaming or not? |
| 07:09.33 | zykotick9 | diwakar: if you must, look into /etc/systemd/logind.conf and the NAutoVTs= and ReserveVT= lines... |
| 07:09.42 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, I was just pulling your leg. |
| 07:10.26 | zykotick9 | anonnumberanon: honestly, i've never used Steam on any platform, so don't really know the details... but i'm aware of it... |
| 07:10.32 | plshalpmee | anonnumberanon is debian a good OS to learn linux? |
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| 07:11.59 | diwakar | zykotick9: why? do people prefer the opposite? |
| 07:12.38 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, Dunno, I tried it and Ubuntu a few times and it wasn't working stably. |
| 07:13.02 | plshalpmee | what wasn't working stably? |
| 07:13.04 | anonnumberanon | Debian is good for learning Linux yeah. |
| 07:13.04 | zykotick9 | diwakar: i just don't know if it's worth the effort... good luck. |
| 07:13.08 | plshalpmee | ubuntu or debian? |
| 07:13.13 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, gnome and Ubuntu |
| 07:13.40 | anonnumberanon | It didn't have the rock hard stability that I was used to in Windows. |
| 07:13.55 | anonnumberanon | I mean, what are your goals with this? |
| 07:14.05 | plshalpmee | which you found in XFce? |
| 07:14.24 | anonnumberanon | Yeah. |
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| 07:15.50 | anonnumberanon | plshalpmee, Gnome would freeze, I don't find that particulary performant for a machine used by humans. |
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| 07:23.51 | beepie | LambdaComplex, wow :) |
| 07:23.54 | beepie | LambdaComplex, later :) |
| 07:23.58 | beepie | DLange, you're a douche. |
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| 07:24.25 | LambdaComplex | DLange: So on a scale of 1 to "uncalled for" |
| 07:24.33 | LambdaComplex | I'd give that an 8 |
| 07:25.13 | anonnumberanon | What did he say? |
| 07:26.15 | LambdaComplex | anonnumberanon: He and some other guy were having an off-topic discussion in ##linux, and DLange (who's an op there) told them to stop |
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| 07:28.51 | anonnumberanon | mods should not mod when they are grumpy, it's like driving while drunk |
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| 07:34.04 | digidog | uses LXDE and openbox and has styled it smart so that it looks like a lightweigth gnome and will never change even if LXDE changes to Qt |
| 07:35.12 | digidog | anonnumberanon: ++ for *like driving while drunk ... great analogy |
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| 07:36.30 | digidog | LXDE + openbox = 100MB only, while running and very accessable to mod |
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| 08:02.00 | stoned | /home/stoned/media was owned by root for some silly reason |
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| 09:33.16 | Sireorion | hey all.. i got a prob... my son wanted me to install minecraft server on his rpi. with raspbian (debian build) and he got an start.sh file that should start at boot... |
| 09:33.23 | Sireorion | how do i do that? |
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| 09:35.28 | Sireorion | so is it possible to autoboot an *.sh file? |
| 09:36.19 | wowaname | yes |
| 09:36.44 | Sireorion | wowaname: okey.. |
| 09:37.12 | Sireorion | wowaname: i tryed to read on the net about it.. but i got lost when it talked about init.b |
| 09:37.16 | wowaname | i'd think it'd be fine in /etc/init.d/ |
| 09:37.22 | wowaname | init.d not .b |
| 09:37.46 | wowaname | can you paste start.sh on pastee.org? |
| 09:37.55 | wowaname | i just want to make sure it'll work as an init script |
| 09:37.58 | Sireorion | yes mate |
| 09:38.45 | Sireorion | wowaname: https://pastee.org/rpsc5 |
| 09:39.15 | wowaname | ok ya you cant just stick that in init.d |
| 09:39.22 | wowaname | let me see if i can remember the right way |
| 09:40.10 | Sireorion | copy the file to init.d folder |
| 09:40.47 | wowaname | wait i dont know if raspbian uses systemd |
| 09:41.09 | Sireorion | ok |
| 09:41.14 | wowaname | do you know |
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| 09:41.42 | Sireorion | no im totally new on raspbian |
| 09:41.51 | wowaname | ok |
| 09:41.56 | wowaname | does /bin/systemd exist |
| 09:42.02 | wowaname | if so you have systemd |
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| 09:42.19 | wowaname | if not then dropping it in init.d *may* work |
| 09:42.49 | wowaname | its 4am est so not a lot of people are up right now |
| 09:43.02 | Akimoto | http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Server_startup_script |
| 09:43.43 | wowaname | Akimoto that works with raspbian? |
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| 09:44.31 | wowaname | i guess theres your answer then Sireorion |
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| 09:44.57 | Sireorion | wowaname: so install screen and make a totally new bootscript |
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| 09:45.30 | Sireorion | this suxx.. |
| 09:45.31 | Sireorion | hehe |
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| 09:45.47 | wowaname | i honestly dont know why it suggests screen |
| 09:46.24 | wowaname | screen shouldnt be used to daemonise like that |
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| 09:48.50 | Sireorion | hmm... why cant it just be easy for once in my life! |
| 09:49.05 | wowaname | linux is for neckbeards |
| 09:49.17 | wowaname | :3 |
| 09:49.31 | wowaname | idk i have limited experience with rpis and minecraft |
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| 09:49.34 | wowaname | so i cant help much |
| 09:50.14 | wowaname | your other option would be not to run it on startup |
| 09:50.22 | Sireorion | wowaname: can i paste 2 lines here? |
| 09:50.35 | wowaname | i personally dont care |
| 09:50.39 | Sireorion | root@MineCraftPi:~# chmod a+x /etc/init.d/minecraft chmod: cannot access â/etc/init.d/minecraftâ: No such file or directory |
| 09:50.49 | wowaname | turned out as one anyway lol |
| 09:51.11 | Sireorion | hehe yes-. |
| 09:51.21 | wowaname | well i assume you can read that error |
| 09:51.50 | Sireorion | yeah but the folder minecraft is there. |
| 09:52.00 | wowaname | apparently not |
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| 09:54.52 | Sireorion | wowaname: init.d is startup serviceses? and the system reads all the files on boot in init.d? |
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| 09:55.06 | wowaname | with exceptions |
| 09:55.19 | wowaname | that's why i ask if you're using systemd or something else |
| 09:55.32 | Sireorion | systemd what is that? |
| 09:55.39 | wowaname | an init process |
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| 09:57.50 | Sireorion | is it easyer to install debian on the pi and run all from terminal? |
| 09:58.59 | wowaname | join #raspbian since they deal with ... raspbian |
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| 09:59.26 | wowaname | im gonna take a risk and speak for the majority of people in here: we probably don't know much about raspbian |
| 09:59.57 | wowaname | thanks, hope your question gets answered |
| 10:00.16 | Sireorion | wowaname: tnx bro.. i gonna talk to them |
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| 10:18.19 | jerry-ing | Alright folks day three at trying to install Debian.http://www.imgpaste.net/image/dqmz |
| 10:18.19 | jerry-ing | http://www.imgpaste.net/image/drRe |
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| 10:20.07 | wowaname | how does it take three days |
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| 10:21.44 | jerry-ing | Because it fails and its slow and lvm was being a pain in the are with all the SCSI drives so this is the 5th attempt with no lvm no special addons I just checked the utilitys and ssh server and it still falls on it'd face |
| 10:22.51 | jerry-ing | And I work 11hours so I get it going before work |
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| 10:25.00 | jerry-ing | Wowaname plus it takes 20 minutes to load the ram and spin up the drives after post aaand this thing will only boot via pxe which also takes forever |
| 10:25.10 | canvon | jerry-ing: my guess: it can't resolve, so there's a network problem. also it tells about Ubuntu |
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| 10:25.41 | jerry-ing | Oh yeah my baf |
| 10:26.24 | jerry-ing | I forgot I switched the pxe files to try this but still even in Debian it fails at the same spot..... |
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| 10:26.58 | jerry-ing | I'll check #ubuntu anyway |
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| 10:27.34 | canvon | jerry-ing: do you happen to use DHCPv6? I had the problem that it fetched an IPv6 address once, then terminated, so the address timed out during the installation... |
| 10:28.21 | Hobbes` | I'm trying to add a new wifi network to wpa_supplicant and it seems to randomly reject the config file |
| 10:28.44 | Hobbes` | any pointers on how to debug this? http://pastebin.com/raw/TK139vWe |
| 10:29.00 | jerry-ing | Canvon no ipfire is showing the ipv4 I know because I Mac filter on the blue0 |
| 10:29.02 | canvon | jerry-ing: (then it tried continuing from a link-local address, for which the proxy was not configured, so I had to echo 1 > .../disable_ipv6 ... Then the installation worked.) |
| 10:29.43 | jerry-ing | I'm not using a proxy not even transparently |
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| 10:30.58 | canvon | jerry-ing: is the network connection reliable? It seems it got a DNS timeout(?) at least once |
| 10:31.26 | canvon | (or other DNS problem) |
| 10:31.42 | ikonia | jerry-ing: is this debian or ubuntu you're trying to install |
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| 10:31.50 | ikonia | lets get some details first |
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| 10:34.51 | Hobbes` | hi ikonia ltns :) |
| 10:34.58 | Akimoto | Hobbes`: You are missing a key_mgmt param in that network block. |
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| 10:35.27 | jerry-ing | Ikonia in think if ya actually read we already figured that out |
| 10:35.32 | jerry-ing | Its ubuntu |
| 10:35.46 | ikonia | jerry-ing: I did read - the bit where you said it's debian |
| 10:35.55 | ikonia | and continued asking in here, then joined #ubuntu and said it's ubuntu |
| 10:36.01 | ikonia | hence the confusion and request for clarity |
| 10:36.26 | Hobbes` | Akimoto none of my other WPA2 stanzas have that parameter |
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| 10:36.48 | Hobbes` | and they have been working fine for years |
| 10:36.54 | Akimoto | Hobbes`: fair enough |
| 10:37.24 | Hobbes` | in fact the stanza I'm adding is just a copy/paste of a working one with just the name + pass changed. |
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| 10:41.41 | jerry-ing | I continued here because I was talking with canvon about my ubuntu/Debian issue |
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| 10:46.21 | rsync | hi all |
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| 10:57.42 | kale | can you guys give me a pointer. i want to setup redundant dynamic dns. but if the primary dns goes down, the secondary does not receive dynamic updates. its bind+dncp3, how is this solved? |
| 10:57.54 | chele | Hi there, I wanna remove my drive from decrypt at boot as it takes too much. How can I disable it? I have removed all entries from cryptab but the system still wastes 90s at boot. |
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| 11:07.46 | SM0TVI | A question: Can anyone point me to an URL about the pro's and cons of upgrading to the 4.3 kernel through jessie-backports? |
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| 11:37.19 | valdyn | SM0TVI: why would you upgrade at all? |
| 11:38.03 | SM0TVI | valdyn: Issue with AMD SB850 and PMP |
| 11:38.40 | SM0TVI | valdyn: TL;DR, my root disk comes up intermittently when linux is loading (not grub), have to power cycle the machine multiple times until it detects the drive. |
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| 11:39.08 | valdyn | SM0TVI: and you know that upgrading the kernel would fix that? |
| 11:39.18 | bitgeek | T |
| 11:39.37 | donttrustem | is there a problem with security.debian.org |
| 11:39.48 | donttrustem | apt-get update is hanging |
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| 11:42.34 | sweb | is any one problem with debian mirror servers today ? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html |
| 11:43.04 | sweb | http://paste.ubuntu.com/14607202/ |
| 11:44.37 | cra1g321 | sweb, maybe try - http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates |
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| 11:46.35 | SM0TVI | valdyn: No I don't, that's one of the reasons I'm asking :P |
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| 13:38.49 | Chilley- | i used "inotifywatch -v -e access -e modify -t 60 -r ." command i found in example on manpage |
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| 13:56.27 | mufasa | my mic on the external webcam doesnot work with skype, but it works fine with audacity. I have set the webcam mic as the primary input device in pavucontrol. |
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| 14:00.44 | mufasa | It shows PulseAudio Server(local) in sound devices and there are no other options to choose from. |
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| 14:08.01 | mufasa | does anyone here use skype? |
| 14:08.15 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 14:08.31 | AlexLikeRock | i used 5 months ago |
| 14:08.39 | AlexLikeRock | whats about_ |
| 14:08.41 | AlexLikeRock | ? |
| 14:08.55 | AlexLikeRock | AUDIO problems _? |
| 14:09.00 | mufasa | yes |
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| 14:09.10 | AlexLikeRock | install PAVUcontroler |
| 14:09.27 | AlexLikeRock | named somting loke that |
| 14:09.30 | mufasa | skype does not recognise the external webcam's mic while it works fine with audacity |
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| 14:10.03 | mufasa | I have installed pavucontroler |
| 14:10.39 | mufasa | it shows my webcam mic as the primary input |
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| 14:12.10 | mufasa | I fu**ing hate skype. I can't even use the web.skype.com service because they need some kind of plugin |
| 14:12.28 | AlexLikeRock | lol |
| 14:12.43 | AlexLikeRock | do you use to friends ?_ |
| 14:12.47 | AlexLikeRock | or family _? |
| 14:13.41 | dankeast | at work we have to use lync. it got renamed to skype for business. they've renamed the lync app on android to "skype for business for android" |
| 14:14.04 | mufasa | I need it to connect with my family members, I can't use other alternatives since they use skype only. |
| 14:14.36 | cra1g321 | skype pulls in 32bit crap too if you're on 64bit :/ |
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| 14:15.48 | AlexLikeRock | try this mufasa http://www.ekiga.org/ or FACEBOOK video-call |
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| 14:16.11 | dankeast | very occasionally when a user logs in to my desktop they have no sound. if i go to settings in gnome the output devices table is empty. it seems to be after resuming, and it seems to always be the same user |
| 14:16.22 | mufasa | AlexLikeRock: Does Facebook video-call require flash? |
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| 14:16.23 | dankeast | a restart fixes it, nothing in dmesg stands out |
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| 14:18.20 | mufasa | AlexLikeRock: I can't use ekiga unfortunately, but thanks for the suggestion. |
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| 14:19.05 | cra1g321 | what about google hangouts ? |
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| 14:19.18 | cra1g321 | near sure there was news that you can invite ppl who dont even have a google account |
| 14:19.21 | AlexLikeRock | other way it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP |
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| 14:20.00 | AlexLikeRock | at GNU use pidgin . at windo$ use ________ (some one) |
| 14:20.12 | AlexLikeRock | example pifgin too |
| 14:20.19 | AlexLikeRock | pidgin*** |
| 14:20.29 | lornaevo | trillian |
| 14:20.29 | mufasa | cra1g321: haven't tried it yet, but yeah it could be a viable option |
| 14:20.59 | AlexLikeRock | yes i use thaat to mu family "hangout" |
| 14:21.02 | AlexLikeRock | (y) |
| 14:21.21 | cra1g321 | i dual-boot so keep skype on windows only |
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| 14:22.04 | AlexLikeRock | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients#XMPP-related_features mufasa |
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| 14:22.39 | AlexLikeRock | take a look "webcam support " |
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| 14:23.35 | mufasa | cra1g321: I just installed it, and it was as I had expected a huge pain in the A |
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| 14:26.25 | AlexLikeRock | do you try skype for a WINE ? |
| 14:27.26 | mufasa | AlexLikeRock: No, I haven't tried with WINE, I will try that.. |
| 14:27.44 | AlexLikeRock | good luck (y) |
| 14:29.39 | mufasa | AlexLikeRock: I'll try but I don't think it will work. :? |
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| 14:29.54 | AlexLikeRock | me too :-P |
| 14:30.10 | AlexLikeRock | mufasa , do you install PAVU-controller _? |
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| 14:31.58 | mufasa | AlexLikeRock: yes I have. |
| 14:32.07 | AlexLikeRock | do you restart skype ? |
| 14:32.19 | AlexLikeRock | whats happen ? |
| 14:33.43 | AlexLikeRock | pavucontrol |
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| 14:39.13 | otyugh | Hey. I've got a problem running mysqld :( |
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| 14:39.22 | otyugh | " Failed to start LSB: Start and stop the mysql database server daemon" |
| 14:39.36 | otyugh | what to do ? |
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| 14:39.58 | AlexLikeRock | what do you type ? |
| 14:40.04 | AlexLikeRock | or what do you do ? |
| 14:40.47 | otyugh | systemctl start mysql.service |
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| 14:41.05 | AlexLikeRock | and what they sa y ? |
| 14:41.59 | otyugh | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 14:43.42 | AlexLikeRock | try /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| 14:43.52 | nkuttler | otyugh: check your logs |
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| 14:44.11 | otyugh | no file there |
| 14:44.32 | AlexLikeRock | /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| 14:44.34 | otyugh | without d it works |
| 14:44.37 | AlexLikeRock | /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 14:44.40 | AlexLikeRock | lol |
| 14:44.42 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.51 | otyugh | Starting mysql (via systemctl): mysql.service |
| 14:44.55 | otyugh | isn't that the same ? |
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| 14:45.01 | AlexLikeRock | nop |
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| 14:45.17 | AlexLikeRock | classic way ---- /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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| 14:45.37 | AlexLikeRock | new by SYSTEMD ---- systemctl start mysql.service |
| 14:45.48 | otyugh | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 14:46.03 | AlexLikeRock | systemd = trash/garbage /shit /not good |
| 14:46.08 | otyugh | .... |
| 14:46.10 | otyugh | well |
| 14:46.13 | Nitori | your opinion |
| 14:46.25 | otyugh | it's writtent there "Starting mysql (via systemctl)" |
| 14:46.36 | otyugh | there is a compatibility stuff, I guess. |
| 14:46.47 | otyugh | So it's the same obviously. |
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| 14:46.55 | AlexLikeRock | ok, take a look at LOG |
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| 14:49.03 | Exagone313 | Hi, what problems can I encounter with a armv7 (=32 bits arm) vps used for web? I'll need nginx, apache2, iptables, fail2ban, php5, mariadb (all packages are available). I have never used such architecture, only x86, so I'm just asking. Thanks for your help. |
| 14:49.44 | otyugh | 160123 15:48:04 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' registration as a STORAGE ENGINE failed. |
| 14:49.49 | otyugh | 160123 15:48:04 [ERROR] Aborting |
| 14:50.03 | teraflops | Exagone313: I run all of those packages in a bananapi |
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| 14:57.25 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: ~ |
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| 15:01.08 | AlexLikeRock | que onda teraflops 8/ |
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| 15:04.58 | jelly | Exagone313: if your vps has iptables-capable and not a container, it will look and feel very much like an x86. None of that software has x86-specific issues. |
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| 15:07.35 | H4ndy | when I add the static IPv6 address of my server via "ip -6 addr add" this seems to get lost after a reboot. any way to permanently add this? |
| 15:07.36 | hblack | salut comment allez vous ? |
| 15:07.43 | Exagone313 | hblack: #debianfr |
| 15:07.45 | Exagone313 | :P |
| 15:07.56 | hblack | thanks |
| 15:08.10 | floyyy | H4ndy is that live version ? |
| 15:08.19 | hblack | so you speak eglish here ? |
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| 15:08.39 | teka | hi guys |
| 15:08.42 | Exagone313 | jelly: ok I'll simply try, it's cheap anyway |
| 15:08.46 | H4ndy | no, its a regular Debian Jessie VPS, floyyy |
| 15:08.50 | Exagone313 | thanks |
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| 15:09.30 | floyyy | H4ndy # /sbin/ip -6 addr add 2001:0db8:0:f101::1/64 dev eth0 |
| 15:09.41 | floyyy | H4ndy # /sbin/ip -6 addr add <ipv6address>/<prefixlength> dev <interface> |
| 15:09.54 | floyyy | works for me |
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| 15:10.33 | H4ndy | OK Im gonna redo the command the monitor it over the next reboot, thanks |
| 15:10.38 | H4ndy | *and monitor |
| 15:10.40 | floyyy | first modprbe ipv6 H4ndy |
| 15:10.49 | floyyy | modprobe ipv6 |
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| 15:11.15 | Akimoto | ip won't make address associations persistant |
| 15:11.37 | Akimoto | you'll need to add to /etc/interfaces or something |
| 15:11.45 | floyyy | # /sbin/ifconfig <interface> inet6 add <ipv6address>/<prefixlength> |
| 15:11.51 | floyyy | # /sbin/ifconfig eth0 inet6 add 2001:0db8:0:f101::1/64 |
| 15:12.40 | floyyy | H4ndy you can learn from here http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/index.html |
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| 15:13.34 | Akimoto | H4ndy: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 15:14.56 | narcos | Hi all. What's the best way to setup WiFi networking in a headless Debian environment? I've used wpa_supplicant + dhclient to manually connect, but I want auto connect on boot. |
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| 15:16.44 | narcos | It looks like I can skip wpa_supplicant put ssid and psk directly into /etc/network/interfaces ? But this is a Ubuntu thread I'm looking at |
| 15:16.46 | narcos | from 2012 |
| 15:16.51 | donofrio | is everyone going to ipv6 today |
| 15:17.17 | teraflops | donofrio: why today? |
| 15:17.18 | floyyy | donofrio not yet |
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| 15:20.42 | fernie | narcos: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz how to use with /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:23.30 | narcos | fernie: Thanks |
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| 15:25.14 | SM0TVI | I wonder, what means are there to make people log into wired network like they log into WiFi? |
| 15:25.48 | jelly | SM0TVI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1X |
| 15:25.54 | Akimoto | SM0TVI: 802.1x |
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| 15:26.06 | Akimoto | yeah what jelly said :) |
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| 15:27.46 | SM0TVI | So, what do I look for, a manageable switch? |
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| 15:28.39 | jelly | one that supports 802.1x yes |
| 15:29.06 | jelly | apparently wpa_supplicant has relevant support. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Network802.1xAuthentication |
| 15:29.09 | teraflops | E.g Radius |
| 15:29.10 | baxx | can anyone help upgrade virtualbox ? I tried adding with dpkg -i but the old version still exists so it flags an error - do I just delete the old one? |
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| 15:29.45 | SM0TVI | So basically, what happens if I plop a windows/linux machine into the network and tell it to connect, it asks for auth? |
| 15:29.46 | jelly | never used it on linux |
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| 15:30.24 | jelly | SM0TVI: it gets a temporary setup used just for auth, until you auth, then you get the "real" network instead |
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| 15:32.23 | jelly | baxx: pastebin the complete output of your installation attempt, including the command line. |
| 15:33.24 | baxx | jelly: ok cool 1 sec |
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| 15:33.41 | jelly | baxx: also, which debian release are you using |
| 15:33.57 | baxx | jelly: I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 |
| 15:34.07 | jelly | baxx: um. Ask in #ubuntu, then |
| 15:34.39 | baxx | thought that the error would be just as much deb here http://vpaste.net/CVAO3 |
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| 15:34.59 | cra1g321 | what the... |
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| 15:38.11 | jelly | cra1g321: they pressed something wrong. Moving on |
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| 15:48.02 | otyugh | is there a way to force umount ? |
| 15:48.13 | otyugh | -f... Shit x) |
| 15:48.16 | otyugh | sorry |
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| 15:48.23 | donofrio | otyugh: lol |
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| 15:48.59 | donofrio | otyugh: I would think that if force needed file open handles you have - yoda voice |
| 15:50.18 | BenSolo | Anyone know of a full Debian phone operating system in the works anywhere? |
| 15:50.23 | H4ndy | Akimoto: thanks for the additional information, I am gonna read a bit up on it |
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| 15:51.24 | BenSolo | I think Debian would run great on a phone.. Just need a dialer and other phone services.. Custom desktop manager for the phone.. |
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| 15:52.18 | swift110-phone | Hmm |
| 15:52.21 | dankeast | https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile < don't think it's really gotten anywhere though |
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| 15:52.43 | dankeast | yeah, i'm getting more and more frustrated by these locked down devices |
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| 15:53.21 | BenSolo | That's perfect. I just finished a project and have some free time and that's a project I'd love to contribute to. |
| 15:53.26 | BenSolo | Thanks for the info. |
| 15:53.43 | ZitZ | hi, how do you configure courier to allow mail from all domains like gmail, but not be an open relay. Sending mail from gmail keeps giving me a relaying denied unless i add them to the smtpaccess.dat. |
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| 15:54.07 | dankeast | no problem, i don't really know all the much about it |
| 15:54.40 | BenSolo | I know it's like if you want the freedom of accessing your own hardware you have to root your device which they are making more and more difficult unless you buy one of Googles actual phones. |
| 15:54.49 | dankeast | i'm hoping the whole smartphone/tablet stuff is like the microcomputers replacing minicomputers, and after a while it all standardises and we get more of an opportunity to chop and change oses |
| 15:55.17 | dankeast | yeah, i've got the new nexus... and it's about the best you can get on a phone, but it's still not debian |
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| 15:55.27 | BenSolo | Which hey I like the Nexus line. But not as much as the flagship Samsung, LG, HTC, or even Motorolas. |
| 15:55.31 | dankeast | termux is nice on android |
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| 15:55.53 | BenSolo | Although the LG nexus was great. |
| 15:55.58 | dankeast | yeah, this is my first. i got frustrated with bugs on my samsung, and my sony fell apart |
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| 15:56.24 | dankeast | so far it's the best phone i've ever had |
| 15:56.37 | BenSolo | I was a big Samsung guy from Galaxy S to Gs5 but the Gs6 was garbage. |
| 15:57.00 | BenSolo | Which Nexus do you have? The new Huawei? |
| 15:57.05 | dankeast | yeah, 6p |
| 15:57.17 | BenSolo | Nice I hear it's great. |
| 15:57.21 | dankeast | iphone 4 > galaxy s2 > sony xperia z1 > nexus 6p |
| 15:57.27 | dankeast | yeah, it really is |
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| 15:57.36 | BenSolo | And it's what 400 USD that's crazy |
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| 15:57.44 | dankeast | £450 :( |
| 15:57.49 | dankeast | still worth it though |
| 15:57.55 | ompaul | could you install debian on it? |
| 15:57.56 | BenSolo | Oh so like 600 |
| 15:58.01 | dankeast | uk gets shafted again |
| 15:58.06 | BenSolo | Not yet. |
| 15:58.11 | dankeast | don't think so, one day hopefully |
| 15:58.22 | BenSolo | But I'm going to be working on that for the next few months. |
| 15:58.31 | dankeast | awesome! :) |
| 15:58.35 | BenSolo | Reading up on the current work right now. |
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| 15:59.09 | BenSolo | Hopefully there are some people still working on it. Especially guys that like to get close to the metal. Cause that's not me. |
| 15:59.13 | jelly | !offtopic |
| 15:59.14 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 15:59.15 | dankeast | the ubuntu convergence stuff does semm |
| 15:59.21 | dankeast | ack, seem like a great idea |
| 15:59.24 | BenSolo | And probably the hardest part of a mobile port. |
| 15:59.44 | BenSolo | We're talking about Debian thanks. |
| 16:00.09 | cra1g321 | BenSolo, dankeast, this channel is for support questions only, Thanks. |
| 16:00.23 | BenSolo | Plus the channel is dead. I'd go straight from this mobile talk to helping someone as soon as they asked. Thanks. |
| 16:01.01 | dankeast | yeah, same |
| 16:01.04 | cra1g321 | shouldn't matter if the channel is dead or not |
| 16:01.20 | cra1g321 | but hey just my opinion |
| 16:01.33 | jelly | BenSolo: telling you this as a moderator, move the hypothetical support and which phone is the best to #debian-offtopic, and keep this channel for support. It makes browsing the logs easier. |
| 16:01.35 | quantic | Off topic is off topic. |
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| 16:02.15 | dankeast | will do, sorry |
| 16:02.19 | dontknow | latest iceweasel preloads sites when you type in addressbar. can you confirm? |
| 16:02.36 | dontknow | you can check with "netstat -tcp" command |
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| 16:02.53 | jelly | with a default profile? |
| 16:03.02 | dontknow | and type something in addressbar |
| 16:03.09 | schoppenhauer | hi. where to put user-defined systemd services in debian? |
| 16:03.35 | dontknow | jelly, sure. |
| 16:03.58 | dontknow | jelly, i also have strict about:config settings that prevent some calling home |
| 16:04.34 | jelly | are you sure you're seeing preloading and not web search |
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| 16:05.06 | dontknow | jelly, i am sure it is not web search stuff. oh and i am talking about iceweasel 43 not the esr |
| 16:05.07 | BenSolo | Wow I've been a member of this community since potato if I can't come in here and talk Debian related projects because some op who hasn't even been here what 3 years is going to tell me when the channel is dead I can't talk about general Debian... Wow. Ya your welcome for the 100s of contributions.. Good job moderating. |
| 16:05.11 | askhl | Hello. I have an Intel Core i7 CPU. How do I see which debian image architecture to install? I know i386 will work but that would be 32 bits. |
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| 16:05.14 | jelly | oh, 43 |
| 16:05.17 | x23 | hi, how to install inkscape 0.91 in debian 8 ? |
| 16:05.23 | jelly | that's not in jessie, not using that |
| 16:05.45 | dontknow | askhl, you can install amd64 |
| 16:05.51 | cra1g321 | BenSolo, doesn't matter how long you have been a user, rules are rules, if you have been on irc that long you should now better |
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| 16:06.04 | askhl | dontknow: really?? |
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| 16:06.17 | cra1g321 | know* |
| 16:06.28 | askhl | dontknow: I would never have guessed. Thanks! |
| 16:06.46 | jelly | askhl: yes, that's the correct arch for 64bit intel cpus, too |
| 16:07.00 | dontknow | ashka, sure! amd64 or x86_64 means 64 bit |
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| 16:07.27 | askhl | Haha, thanks! |
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| 16:08.23 | x23 | somebody? |
| 16:08.53 | jelly | dpkg, tell x23 about jessie-backports |
| 16:08.58 | cra1g321 | x23, 0.91 is in backports |
| 16:09.12 | x23 | jelly, cra1g321 tks |
| 16:09.37 | cra1g321 | also dont be afraid to have some patience instead of saying "somebody" after 3mins of asking ;) |
| 16:10.12 | x23 | cra1g321, ok man |
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| 16:14.15 | swift110-phone | Thats right |
| 16:14.21 | swift110-phone | Patience |
| 16:14.24 | diwakar | I'm using i3wm and I automatically login using getty@tty1.service file. Whenever I quit i3, it instantly restarts and I can't log out to tty1. What's the reason? |
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| 16:17.46 | jelly | diwakar: that's how services work by default |
| 16:17.52 | diwakar | I've put '[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx' line in my .zlogin file, the problem disappears if I remove it. |
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| 16:18.22 | jelly | diwakar: can you pastebin your custom .service definition? |
| 16:18.33 | diwakar | jelly: how can I alter it |
| 16:18.53 | diwakar | jelly: you mean the whole getty@tty1.service file |
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| 16:18.57 | jelly | yes |
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| 16:22.29 | diwakar | jelly: http://pastebin.com/FYGUNRZP |
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| 16:23.45 | diwakar | Has 'Restart=Always' something to do with it? |
| 16:23.48 | jelly | diwakar: well, the only way to log out there is to disable the service |
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| 16:24.38 | jelly | diwakar: even without your "exec startx" thing you'll always get auto logged in because you told agetty to do so |
| 16:25.30 | diwakar | jelly: yes but i3 won't start automatically, but that's not what I want |
| 16:25.51 | diwakar | jelly: If I disable the service how do I autologin |
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| 16:27.00 | diwakar | I need to autologin at boot but should be able to log out to tty1 later, is it possible? |
| 16:27.41 | jelly | diwakar: the only way to do that would be to change the ervice definition after first autologin |
| 16:27.52 | jelly | diwakar: and change it back at shutdown/reboot |
| 16:28.43 | jelly | maybe #systemd will have better ideas, I'm pretty clueless with it |
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| 16:29.37 | diwakar | jelly: yeah, they may have better ideas. Thanks man. |
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| 16:52.31 | cheetahw26 | I'm trying to install Debian on an Intel ComputeStick, which I believe only uses UEFI from a USB... which installation should I put on the USB? |
| 16:53.19 | cheetahw26 | I first tried, debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-standard.iso but when I tried to copy that via Rufus I got an error reading that it wasn't UEFI |
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| 16:58.39 | cheetahw26 | nm... think I just had to copy with dd instead, that worked fine |
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| 16:59.38 | zykotick9 | cheetahw26: i don't think debian-live-* supports UEFI at all... i'm not sure however. |
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| 17:00.14 | cheetahw26 | oh yeah.. I used debian-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 17:01.14 | markybob | zykotick9, it doesn't |
| 17:01.36 | zykotick9 | markybob: thank you - i've been looking for confirmation on that for a while |
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| 17:19.20 | cheetahw26 | hmm... I'm missing the wifi driver though, realtek, rtl8723bs I have it installed and compiled on another stick I have with Ubuntu installed, it's been a while, is there any easy way to copy drivers over from one system to another? |
| 17:19.47 | cheetahw26 | probably would have to be the same kernel too? |
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| 17:20.33 | markybob | cheetahw26, that's supported by package firmware-realtek |
| 17:21.07 | markybob | cheetahw26, you can download it from http://packages.debian.org/firmware-realtek on a different computer and put it on a usb stick then dpkg -i foo.deb to install. |
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| 17:21.22 | cheetahw26 | anyway to install that at install time? I'm just trying to figure out if I have to download the full iso, or if I can still install with net.iso |
| 17:21.42 | markybob | cheetahw26, yes. cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 17:21.44 | cra1g321 | you can use the netinstall cd with firmware included |
| 17:22.08 | cheetahw26 | how can I include the firmware? |
| 17:22.18 | markybob | cheetahw26, that iso comes with it |
| 17:22.32 | markybob | cheetahw26, "cd-including-firmware" |
| 17:23.31 | cheetahw26 | this one then, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 17:23.43 | markybob | yes |
| 17:24.25 | cheetahw26 | thanks |
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| 17:28.03 | ivan78 | hola |
| 17:28.26 | cheetahw26 | so that one reads no driver found as well, and the firmware isn't in the list... do I have to go to shell and installed that package first or? |
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| 17:29.25 | cnnx | is there a program in debian to create a bootable dos 3.5" disk? |
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| 17:30.51 | ompaul | cnnx: if you have an image of one you could run dd |
| 17:31.03 | ompaul | but frankly you could run freedos |
| 17:31.06 | cnnx | wasnt there's like a freedos at some point? |
| 17:31.21 | cnnx | i just need it to boot a p3 500mhz laptop and then go to the cdrom drive with it. like D: |
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| 17:32.25 | cnnx | so i mount the /dev/fd? |
| 17:32.32 | cnnx | then dd of=/mnt/fd ? |
| 17:32.36 | cnnx | from the freedos image? |
| 17:32.38 | ompaul | and that would be |
| 17:32.41 | ompaul | it |
| 17:33.14 | ompaul | is there something in the drive you want? |
| 17:33.34 | cnnx | yeah |
| 17:33.39 | cnnx | i want to install windows95 from cd |
| 17:33.43 | cnnx | i have the original cdrom |
| 17:33.46 | cnnx | but it wont boot from bios |
| 17:33.50 | cnnx | cause i have deiban installed with grub |
| 17:33.53 | cnnx | and it bypasses it |
| 17:33.56 | cnnx | even if i force it |
| 17:33.58 | ompaul | use a paper clip to pop the drive and this is off topic for here ;-) |
| 17:34.15 | ompaul | use cat /dev/zero > to the live disk |
| 17:34.20 | ompaul | to kill all grub |
| 17:34.34 | cnnx | that will force it to read from cd? |
| 17:34.45 | ompaul | it will remove grub |
| 17:34.52 | ompaul | after that you need to use the bios to get it to start |
| 17:35.02 | ompaul | else no deal |
| 17:35.14 | ompaul | and this is now really offtopic for here |
| 17:35.34 | ompaul | I've told you how to remove grub and make a floppy ;-) |
| 17:35.41 | cnnx | yyp |
| 17:35.43 | cnnx | thanks |
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| 17:43.29 | Arr0way | anyone know how to start this mode by default ? http://i.imgur.com/sogNPYU.png |
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| 17:48.23 | zykotick9 | Arr0way: once you select something from that list, isn't that choice saved for later logins? |
| 17:48.40 | Arr0way | zykotick9: nope |
| 17:49.09 | zykotick9 | Arr0way: sorry. best of luck. |
| 17:49.17 | Arr0way | :)\ |
| 17:49.19 | Arr0way | thanks |
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| 17:52.44 | quantic | Arr0way: Then something is quite broken. That's how I log in, and it saves the setting. |
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| 17:54.35 | cnnx | my kernel is 3.2.0 on debian, i just ran apt-get update after about a year or more, will it ugprade to 4.4 when i run apt-get upgrade next? |
| 17:55.10 | cockroach | I managed to delete my kernel and initramfs from /boot. After restoring them from a freshly downloaded .deb + update-initramfs I now keep getting "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for root -" when generating the initramfs and the system fails to boot afterwards. It was working just fine before I did this and I can boot the machine with a rescue system. Any idea what might be wrong there |
| 17:55.16 | cockroach | , anyone? |
| 17:55.17 | markybob | cnnx, no. |
| 17:55.28 | cnnx | markybob: thats the kernel.org stable release |
| 17:55.31 | cnnx | why not |
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| 17:55.34 | markybob | cnnx, it's not in debian |
| 17:55.39 | cnnx | oh ok |
| 17:55.42 | cnnx | what will it upgrade to? |
| 17:55.59 | markybob | cnnx, what are you using? jessie? any backports? |
| 17:56.15 | cnnx | how do I found out |
| 17:56.19 | cnnx | its debian 7 |
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| 17:56.34 | dontknow | anyone uses iceweasel 43 here? |
| 17:57.04 | markybob | cnnx, oldstable is stuck at 3.2 unless you use backports. then you get 3.16 |
| 17:57.14 | cnnx | ok ty |
| 17:57.23 | markybob | cnnx, http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 17:57.25 | cnnx | so i need to do a re-install of debian if i wnt newer? |
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| 17:57.51 | markybob | cnnx, dont have to reinstall. you can simple upgrade from oldstable to stable |
| 17:57.54 | markybob | simply* |
| 17:58.03 | markybob | !tell cnnx about wheezy->jessie |
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| 18:00.41 | cheetahw26 | ok so I installed with net.iso booted with minimal install because I still couldn't connect, then downloaded and installed the package firmware-realtek... but I'm not sure what to do next |
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| 18:01.34 | markybob | cheetahw26, usually a reboot is needed after installing firmware. then https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 18:01.37 | polyphagia | you probably need firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:01.37 | cnnx | markybob: updating 529 packages now |
| 18:01.47 | polyphagia | if realtek doesn't work |
| 18:02.05 | cnnx | markybob: its on an old p3 laptop 500mhz :) |
| 18:02.19 | cnnx | i wanted to keep linux on it instead of windows, so im glad i can upgrade at least |
| 18:02.32 | cheetahw26 | well I know the proper driver is: rtl8723bs and I have it running in Ubuntu on another Intel stick... it just wasn't available at install |
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| 18:03.01 | cheetahw26 | I can copy it from the Ubuntu stick or try to download source and recompile, if necessary... but it would be much easier to be online to download the necessary tools, eh... |
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| 18:04.58 | cheetahw26 | is there a way to go back to that initial setup window from during the install? |
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| 18:08.45 | deface | hi all |
| 18:08.47 | schoppenhauer | hi. where to put user-defined systemd services in debian? *push* |
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| 18:09.21 | deface | hi i have a problem with serveer |
| 18:09.28 | deface | who can help me |
| 18:09.36 | markybob | !ask |
| 18:09.36 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:09.46 | deface | ok |
| 18:09.47 | valdyn | schoppenhauer: /etc/systemd |
| 18:09.57 | centrx | Alert! Problem with server! |
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| 18:10.16 | markybob | all hands on deck! |
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| 18:12.36 | deface | www.myproshot.net/jobs - no working!!!! But www.myproshot.net/index.php/jobs - working! Somthing wrong with .htaccess!!! |
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| 18:13.12 | centrx | deface, I would ask this question in #httpd (apache) |
| 18:13.15 | jelly | deface: which http server are you using, and which debian release is installed on that system? |
| 18:13.38 | jelly | assuming apache might not be the correct thing to do, these days |
| 18:13.57 | markybob | deface, ironically it looks like you need to hire someone :P sorry, i had to |
| 18:14.28 | Akimoto | o7 |
| 18:14.30 | markybob | deface, seriously though #httpd and pastebin your config is your best bet |
| 18:14.48 | deface | Debian 8 - Apache 2.4.10 |
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| 18:15.47 | d6fs | dontknow: have it |
| 18:16.20 | dontknow | d6fs, could you come #debian-offtopic |
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| 18:16.54 | deface | ok |
| 18:17.13 | deface | its mean nobody knows |
| 18:17.16 | cheetahw26 | it's been a while, but wasn't there a package that scans hardware and installs found drivers? anaconda or something... is that done automatically at each boot, can I verify/run it manually? |
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| 18:18.25 | markybob | cheetahw26, ubuntu does that. not debian |
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| 18:19.25 | cheetahw26 | so... how can I then install these drivers? |
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| 18:19.59 | cheetahw26 | regularly I want to say I'd just use modprobe *.ko |
| 18:20.35 | cheetahw26 | I'm not sure with those packages... I did install the realtek and the iwlwifi |
| 18:20.55 | zophy | cheetahw26, there is the utility 'discover' that finds hardware and does things beyond my comprehension |
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| 18:21.00 | markybob | cheetahw26, and you rebooted? after reboot does sudo dmesg say missing firmware? |
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| 18:24.56 | cheetahw26 | yeah rebooted... dmesg shows something that may the wifi driver related, but not sure... i8042 no controller found, but that looks like mouse |
| 18:25.27 | cheetahw26 | I see another message: [Firmware Bug]: No valid trip found |
| 18:26.42 | cheetahw26 | that's all I really see in there that resembles anything error related |
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| 18:45.49 | vinalencc | Hello, guys! I'd like to ask you something. I have all Debian 8.2 ISO images. Instead of burn CDs or DVDs with ISO images and add them to my repository, is it possible to add ISO images direct to my Debian repo? |
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| 18:50.19 | jelly | vinalencc: you can mount them and add as deb file:/ sources |
| 18:50.41 | vinalencc | jelly: Got it. |
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| 18:51.00 | jelly | in theory. I have a local mirror instead. |
| 18:51.18 | jelly | don't think I ever downloaded cd 2 |
| 18:51.27 | vinalencc | There is some specific cmd? |
| 18:51.28 | zykotick9 | thinks of all the electrons that died, downloading those ISO images... looks at his apt-cacher-ng and smiles |
| 18:52.24 | vinalencc | Or just mount and add to repository? |
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| 18:56.35 | paxcoder | Maybe vinalencc has poor connectivity. I'm not sure why you'd want a mirror otherwise. Jelly? Why doesn't /var/cache/apt/archives/ suffice for you zykotick9? |
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| 18:57.48 | zykotick9 | paxcoder: if you have more then one machine, and during netinst - having an apt-proxy is pretty nice |
| 18:57.59 | paxcoder | ah |
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| 18:59.56 | cheetahw26 | that is if you can get network drivers installed :) |
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| 19:00.46 | zykotick9 | has zero issues, doing debian netinst across wireless on his hardware... |
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| 19:04.11 | paxcoder | dpkg: jigdo |
| 19:04.11 | dpkg | Jigsaw Download (jigdo) is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian CD images with jigdo" at https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ . https://wiki.debian.org/jigdo http://atterer.org/jigdo/ |
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| 19:04.52 | paxcoder | Why aren't packages distributed in a torrent-like fashion? |
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| 19:05.25 | cra1g321 | and the advantage of that , would be ? |
| 19:06.04 | paxcoder | cra1g321: speed, decentralization |
| 19:06.30 | jelly | paxcoder: do you know of a debian mirror that can't saturate your connection? |
| 19:06.52 | cra1g321 | there are tons of debian mirrors all around the world |
| 19:06.52 | jelly | I get 25MB/s from mine. |
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| 19:09.21 | jelly | paxcoder: bandwidth is almost never a bottleneck for package downloads |
| 19:09.44 | markybob | paxcoder, probably because it'd kill people like me. my internet connection is via cell phone tethering. |
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| 19:09.57 | deface | PLEASE HELP ME TODAY |
| 19:09.59 | deface | www.myproshot.net/jobs - no working!!!! But www.myproshot.net/index.php/jobs - working! Somthing wrong with .htaccess!!! |
| 19:09.59 | markybob | paxcoder, and there are still millions with dialup |
| 19:10.17 | markybob | deface, no. you were already told where to go. screaming won't help |
| 19:10.30 | deface | OK |
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| 19:11.25 | jelly | deface: how much do you know about apache? |
| 19:11.42 | paxcoder | markybob: point being that chunking introduces overhead? |
| 19:11.52 | deface | i know how to install 0) |
| 19:12.16 | jelly | deface: do you know where it keeps logs, and how to make those logs show more details about rewrites? |
| 19:12.31 | deface | no |
| 19:12.36 | gabrielsyme | I'm new to linux, do you recommend learning iptables to setup a firewall on a home computer or is gufw enough? |
| 19:12.42 | markybob | paxcoder, and uploading in such situations is Really Bad(tm). data limits, slower downloads, extra fees |
| 19:13.39 | jelly | deface: then learn that and look at your error.log. |
| 19:13.40 | jelly | dpkg, tell deface apache config jessie |
| 19:13.43 | jelly | dpkg, tell deface -about apache config jessie |
| 19:13.45 | paxcoder | markybob: is dial-up UP/DN ratio dynamic? |
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| 19:14.03 | markybob | paxcoder, yes |
| 19:14.13 | paxcoder | must have forgot that |
| 19:14.49 | jelly | gabrielsyme: you'll want to learn iptables to know what the backend does and to be able to debug things when they go wrong |
| 19:15.05 | cheetahw26 | iptables are fun... |
| 19:15.33 | paxcoder | if i may veer OT a bit, why is ADSL fixed-ratio? |
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| 19:15.48 | paxcoder | **DSL |
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| 19:16.05 | gabrielsyme | jelly: right i'll look into it then, thanks |
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| 19:20.13 | jelly | deface: to be very short: learn where your web server puts access logs. Learn where it puts errors. Learn which component is responsible to make an URL like /index.php/jobs work (it's probably mod_rewrite and you probably have RewriteRules in your VirtualHost definition, or in .htaccess) |
| 19:20.16 | centrx | paxcoder, You mean same speed upload and download? I think that's only certain kinds of DSL |
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| 19:20.46 | centrx | paxcoder, Specifically the A in ADSL stands for asymmetric, for different upload/download speeds |
| 19:20.53 | paxcoder | centrx: no, i mean fixt (as opposed to variable) ratio of upload and download. Not a ratio of 1. |
| 19:21.07 | paxcoder | *fixed |
| 19:21.25 | paxcoder | *not necessarily a ratio of 1 |
| 19:21.30 | jelly | deface: then learn what your rewrite rules are supposed to achieve, learn how to increase verbosity with RewriteLogLevel, and the you can actually look at what they really do, |
| 19:22.44 | jelly | deface: if you don't want or don't have time to learn these things, and you don't find anyone to hold your hand through that, you may have to hire someone to fix them for you. |
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| 19:23.18 | deface | thanks for your advice |
| 19:23.26 | deface | i try to do it |
| 19:23.32 | deface | at first |
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| 19:25.36 | jelly | don't worry, it's a couple days worth of learning and figuring out how things work |
| 19:26.10 | jelly | but it pays off later on your second, third, hundredth web |
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| 19:27.49 | paxcoder | jelly: i think that by the hundredth web you'd write a server of your own. |
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| 19:28.00 | jelly | paxcoder: wrong. |
| 19:28.31 | paxcoder | maybe "hundredth web" means a different thing for you than for me |
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| 19:29.01 | paxcoder | or it could be just that sysadmins and i think differently |
| 19:29.05 | markybob | apparently. godaddy and dreamhost hosts millions and they don't write their own |
| 19:30.56 | paxcoder | does godaddy have a bed rep? i have that feeling. |
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| 19:32.02 | jelly | dpkg, tell paxcoder about NIH |
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| 19:33.30 | paxcoder | jelly: don't you ever get that bloaty feeling with software, and that you could implement a streamlined, customized replacement yourself? |
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| 19:34.16 | jelly | yes. In most cases that feeling is wron.g |
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| 19:37.16 | jelly | but that discussion is probably better done in #debian-offtopic |
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| 19:38.42 | paxcoder | jelly: is that an invite or only a deprecation of OT? |
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| 19:39.16 | john-soda | Hello together I'm installing Debian 8 at the moment. In the last years I used Linux Mint with encrypted home partition. I have a Thinkpad X200 with Core2Duo and samsung 840 pro Ssd. I want you to ask if I should chose an installation with or without lvm? I want secure data and fast performance. |
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| 19:39.42 | john-soda | I'm writing from my mobile at the moment |
| 19:39.55 | markybob | john-soda, most of us use lvm i'd assume. |
| 19:39.59 | jelly | paxcoder: both |
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| 19:40.29 | paxcoder | joins #debian-offtopic instead |
| 19:40.29 | spacebug^ | Ehm.. Twitter and Debian website says 8.3 is out, but I can't find any images for that, only 8.2 |
| 19:40.30 | dontknow | john-soda, use fully encrypted lvm. it also encrypts swap |
| 19:40.49 | cra1g321 | john-soda, i think its usually said there isnt much point encrypting home if you dont encrypt swap also |
| 19:41.03 | john-soda | is encryption lvm faster than only home encryption? |
| 19:41.41 | bugnuts | the cost is minimal |
| 19:41.42 | spacebug^ | "New installation media and CD and DVD images containing updated packages will be available soon at the regular locations." of, nvermind |
| 19:41.56 | john-soda | I encrypted swap in the past. I forgot to say. I made it manually |
| 19:42.27 | cra1g321 | the installer offers a fully encrypted option using lvm, though i do it all manually |
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| 19:42.42 | bugnuts | if you are really worried about security use www.qubes-os.org it has a debiian template |
| 19:43.53 | cheetahw26 | I thought that selecting Debian Desktop Environment, without selecting a Window Manager would just install X Windows and that's it... but then I saw many gnome- packages being installed :( |
| 19:44.33 | jelly | cheetahw26: choice of a DE means gnome, by default |
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| 19:44.57 | cheetahw26 | but I specifically left that one unchecked... |
| 19:45.13 | cheetahw26 | err... left them all unchecked, actually |
| 19:45.24 | zykotick9 | jelly: i do see cheetahw26's confusion there... there is first a DE selection, then under it a Gnome one... |
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| 19:45.37 | jelly | if you left the Desktop Environment task enabled, that's gnome |
| 19:45.41 | john-soda | okay I think I will try full encrypted lvm. thanks for the help! |
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| 19:46.35 | ewew | Hi. Why is manpages.debian.org filtering on port 80 ? |
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| 19:47.15 | cheetahw26 | should force a * at gnome if no other window managers are selected while Desktop Environment is selected |
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| 19:50.13 | jelly | ewew: a better question might be, what is "manpages.debian.org" |
| 19:50.44 | ewew | webpage with man pages. |
| 19:51.00 | jelly | really? |
| 19:51.02 | ewew | jelly your pointing on missing www |
| 19:51.07 | jelly | when did that happen |
| 19:51.54 | ewew | rDNS record for 206.12.19.126: glinka.debian.org |
| 19:51.54 | ewew | PORT STATE SERVICE |
| 19:51.54 | ewew | 80/tcp filtered http |
| 19:52.28 | markybob | i don't know that it did... google doesn't know about it. the subdomain exists but that's it |
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| 19:52.51 | markybob | "A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt â learn more." debian doesn't do that with live sites |
| 19:52.55 | jelly | ewew: how did you find about its existence? |
| 19:53.10 | ewew | in documentation section on debian.org |
| 19:54.02 | jelly | ewew: alright, then file a bug for package named "www.debian.org" and mention the exact page where you found the link to manpages.debian.org, and that the site is apparently dead. |
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| 19:54.28 | ewew | http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi here |
| 19:55.09 | ewew | ok. found a email of people responsible for this. |
| 19:55.24 | jelly | you want to make a bug report about that page AND the page where it was linked from. |
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| 19:56.47 | ewew | well. First i wanted to confirm the fact its not working. It looks like your testing me ? |
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| 19:57.13 | meth | hey |
| 19:57.22 | meth | where is 8.3's isos ? |
| 19:57.24 | markybob | ewew, we're not testing you. it doesn't work. we just don't know it's an actual thing |
| 19:57.34 | meth | why they are not released today ? |
| 19:57.59 | markybob | ewew, link us to the site that mentions it? |
| 19:58.09 | meth | nixCraft. |
| 19:58.13 | awal1 | manpages.debian.net seems dead too (?) |
| 19:58.19 | meth | http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/debian-linux/released-howto-upgrade-from-8-3-to-8-2/ |
| 19:58.34 | ewew | from here https://www.debian.org/doc/ |
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| 19:59.11 | meth | Debian website is a maze to me. |
| 19:59.24 | markybob | ewew, okay. then do what jelly said. |
| 20:00.01 | awal1 | ewew: manpages.debian.org existed in the past right and I used it several times, but seems to be dead now, also the .net one |
| 20:00.10 | ewew | i just wanted to avoid unnecessary bug report. |
| 20:00.23 | ewew | well. it existed to todays date. |
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| 20:00.42 | jelly | then it's okay to file a bug. I've never used that thing myself. |
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| 20:01.05 | jelly | forwarded your question to #debian-www on oftc, too |
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| 20:01.50 | meth | when debian will add the grub Efi in the installer? |
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| 20:03.19 | jelly | ewew: NEWSFLASH. It's scheduled maintenance <adsb> right now, yes - https://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2016/01/msg00002.html / https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2016/01/msg00061.html |
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| 20:04.52 | markybob | jelly, manpages isn't included in that list though |
| 20:05.23 | jelly | markybob: um, yes it is |
| 20:05.34 | jelly | * glinka.debian.org |
| 20:05.38 | markybob | ah |
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| 20:09.55 | ewew | ok. thanks |
| 20:10.21 | jelly | meth: I thought d-i starting from 8.0 onwards detected and supposed UEFI systems, picking the right grub flavor |
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| 20:10.30 | jelly | supported* |
| 20:11.50 | meth | jelly not on my mac. |
| 20:12.03 | cheetahw26 | ahh... that wireless driver I'm trying to use only works with kernel 3.19+ and default from iso is 3.16 now |
| 20:12.07 | markybob | meth, does mac use secure boot? |
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| 20:12.17 | meth | it bypasses this step and adds "continue without bootloader" |
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| 20:12.43 | meth | i have to log in with grub console and install the grubefi from inside the system. |
| 20:12.51 | d6fs | is apt-get or aptitude the one that should be used? |
| 20:12.55 | cheetahw26 | are there any issues with updating kernel to 3.19/current ? |
| 20:12.56 | meth | markybob, no. |
| 20:13.01 | jelly | meth: which mac model is it? I know the d-i people tested with what was available up to late 2014-ish |
| 20:13.07 | markybob | d6fs, whichever you like better |
| 20:13.15 | zykotick9 | d6fs: use apt ;) |
| 20:14.32 | meth | jelly, imac late 2013 |
| 20:14.39 | d6fs | thought aptitude was the older and less recommended, but https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement says other way around, then there is just apt? |
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| 20:14.57 | markybob | d6fs, apt-get is older |
| 20:15.22 | d6fs | should only one of the 3 be used? or are they okay with eachother? |
| 20:15.38 | markybob | d6fs, they're fine with each other |
| 20:15.39 | jelly | meth: I guess it's some unforeseen or undetected variant |
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| 20:19.02 | jelly | meth: see eg. http://blog.einval.com/debian/efi http://blog.einval.com/debian/CDs . you may also want to file an installation report, and see if there's someone to help debugging it in #debian-boot over on irc.oftc.net |
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| 20:21.04 | meth | ok |
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| 20:24.29 | dontknow | do you get "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" with last updates? |
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| 20:25.57 | jelly | dontknow: which release? |
| 20:26.09 | dontknow | jelly, jessie |
| 20:26.13 | jelly | then no |
| 20:26.19 | jelly | !bat |
| 20:26.19 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for ALL packages involved, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 20:26.36 | dontknow | jelly, i can only install updates after log out |
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| 20:26.55 | hiya | ű <-- would a password with a char like this work in Debian? |
| 20:27.05 | d6fs | think so yes |
| 20:27.10 | dontknow | hiya, yes |
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| 20:27.27 | jelly | dontknow: read the instructions from dpkg bot above, carefully, and provide all the requested info if possible |
| 20:27.47 | hiya | dontknow, d6fs ok thanks |
| 20:28.14 | jelly | hiya: work where? It won't work as part of an username, but you should be able to use it in a text editor. |
| 20:28.31 | jelly | oh, a password |
| 20:28.54 | jelly | don't rely on it. |
| 20:31.53 | dontknow | jelly, i will prefer installing updates by logging out thanks |
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| 20:32.24 | jelly | dontknow: okay, if you don't want to debug this, less work for us! |
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| 20:32.37 | dontknow | lol |
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| 20:44.19 | hiya | jelly, would it work as a part of password for a username? |
| 20:44.52 | cra1g321 | ^ your question makes no sense |
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| 20:45.06 | hiya | cra1g321, Why not? |
| 20:45.32 | jelly | hiya: since it's a bit dependent on your input method, I'd avoid it. What if it works for console logins, works for ssh, then fails for your imap or webmail service? |
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| 20:46.18 | hiya | jelly, it is failing in Network Manger for openVPN |
| 20:46.23 | hiya | and works in cli edition of it |
| 20:46.26 | hiya | is it possible? |
| 20:46.30 | jelly | quite. |
| 20:46.38 | hiya | ok thanks |
| 20:46.59 | jelly | I mean ok, it's probably a bug, but do you really want to chase bugs in every other app |
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| 20:51.57 | hiya | jelly, I think there is another problem when you are done upgrading OVPN, network manager still uses the old version or ask for it |
| 20:51.59 | hiya | is it so? |
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| 20:52.51 | jelly | hiya: no idea there, I don't use NetworkManager with debian |
| 20:53.07 | jelly | maybe you need to log off and back on |
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| 21:13.43 | Wondermutt | hello |
| 21:13.55 | Wondermutt | anybody around that feels like helping ? |
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| 21:14.15 | Wondermutt | was there a point release issued today? |
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| 21:15.00 | d6fs | 8.3 you mean? |
| 21:16.03 | vrkalak | d6fs: debian version > Debian-8 |
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| 21:16.29 | d6fs | ? I asked if that's what Wondermutt meant |
| 21:16.37 | Wondermutt | d6fs, idk but ... |
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| 21:16.44 | vrkalak | updated version - debian-8.3 |
| 21:16.51 | Wondermutt | i did apt-get update and apt-get -s upgrade and all this stuff showed up that is NOT in the security announce list |
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| 21:17.15 | Wondermutt | a new apache2, php5, base-files, perl, udev, rsyslog |
| 21:17.20 | d6fs | https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160123 |
| 21:17.23 | Wondermutt | no news about a point relase |
| 21:17.31 | Wondermutt | AHHH |
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| 21:17.33 | Wondermutt | there it is |
| 21:17.35 | Wondermutt | thanks dude |
| 21:17.38 | Wondermutt | it's not on the home page |
| 21:17.44 | d6fs | saw on reddit |
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| 21:17.53 | jelly | Wondermutt: it's in the process |
| 21:17.55 | Wondermutt | they need to update the home page |
| 21:17.56 | Wondermutt | ok |
| 21:18.07 | Wondermutt | well just wanted toconfirm it before I did the upgrade |
| 21:18.09 | Wondermutt | call me paranoid |
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| 21:18.30 | vrkalak | Wondermutt: you should be doing -- sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:18.50 | Wondermutt | why dist-upgrade? |
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| 21:19.02 | Wondermutt | i'm not upgrading to a new major |
| 21:19.46 | Wondermutt | pkg list is identical whether I do upgrade or dist-upgrade |
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| 21:20.54 | Wondermutt | so while I have your attention, I have another issue, with the graphicsmagick binary |
| 21:21.16 | Wondermutt | when I run convert on a simple 1MB jpg that I have no reason to believe is odd, the gm proc has a huge memory leak and nearly crashes the system |
| 21:21.33 | Wondermutt | it does not seem to have trouble with smaller images |
| 21:21.42 | Wondermutt | I have yet to find the break point but it's somewhere between 256KB and 1MB |
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| 21:21.55 | jelly | Wondermutt: dist-upgrade is not for upgrading to a new major release. It's used to get patches even if they include some new dependencies. |
| 21:23.06 | jelly | !dist-upgrade |
| 21:23.06 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; as of Debian 5.0 "Lenny", aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade>, <full-upgrade>. |
| 21:23.13 | Wondermutt | yeah I read the man page |
| 21:23.40 | jelly | (it's a very common misunderstanding) |
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| 21:23.48 | Wondermutt | i have never had upgrade and dist-upgrade produce different results other than when major release upgrading |
| 21:24.17 | Wondermutt | so about graphicsmagick |
| 21:24.36 | Wondermutt | any ideas why something as basic as a convert call would cause my system to head towards crash? |
| 21:24.55 | zykotick9 | points to "apt upgrade" for the benefits, without some of the pitfalls, of "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 21:25.11 | Wondermutt | it seems to be a jessie issue that was not in oldstable |
| 21:26.19 | jelly | Wondermutt: does the same thing happen with imagemagick's convert? |
| 21:26.39 | Wondermutt | great question |
| 21:26.45 | Wondermutt | idk yet because I haven't installed it |
| 21:26.54 | Wondermutt | and that was going to be my fallback plan if I can't fix this in gm |
| 21:27.13 | Wondermutt | I plan to do some cmdline tests momentarily |
| 21:27.21 | Wondermutt | this was discovered in a web application |
| 21:27.37 | Wondermutt | perhaps I can get some clues that way |
| 21:27.49 | jelly | if you can provide a sample image that reliably triggers the issue, file a bug report and include it |
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| 21:28.05 | jelly | there may be security implications |
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| 21:28.39 | Wondermutt | oh yeah definitely |
| 21:29.01 | Wondermutt | i mean if you have a web app tied to a gm call that works on an image that triggers a memleak that quickly eats up all your RAM, that is an easy DOS attack |
| 21:29.16 | Wondermutt | I'll test a bit more on my end before contemplating the bug report |
| 21:29.30 | Wondermutt | frankly if this is as easy to trigger as I think it may be, I'm amazed nobody has reported it yet |
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| 21:29.56 | Wondermutt | i admit that I do have one oddity in my setup...i install graphicsmagick with --no-install-recommends |
| 21:30.10 | jelly | that shouldn't be an issue |
| 21:30.13 | Wondermutt | so one thing I want to try is to do a full install and see if that clears it up |
| 21:30.17 | Wondermutt | i agree that it's shouldn't |
| 21:30.20 | Wondermutt | it* |
| 21:30.39 | Wondermutt | but I think it's worth the experiment |
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| 21:30.59 | jelly | (it's worth reporting even if it only craps when installed --without-recommends) |
| 21:31.45 | Wondermutt | jelly, sure but if I can make that determination myself, it's a good clue for the devs so I'll go ahead and do it first |
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| 21:43.37 | Wondermutt | hey jelly |
| 21:43.49 | Wondermutt | i just found something left over from the gm convert in /tmp |
| 21:43.57 | Wondermutt | two images it was working on |
| 21:43.57 | Wondermutt | -rw------- 1 www-data www-data 8294392468096 Jan 22 22:05 gmlH9d6Z |
| 21:43.58 | Wondermutt | -rw------- 1 www-data www-data 8294396063280 Jan 22 22:03 gmsYHDqy |
| 21:44.22 | Wondermutt | reporting as 7T each...but actual disk consumptionw as 7GB each |
| 21:44.27 | Wondermutt | either way totally totally wrong |
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| 21:45.23 | gabrielsyme | i cannot open the terminal under gnome. any ideas? |
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| 21:51.20 | Wondermutt | jelly, seems to be related to using -resize with the @ suffix |
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| 21:54.52 | d6fs | gabrielsyme: if you had an other terminal to see the output of running gnome-terminal it would be easier |
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| 22:00.04 | cmhobbs | i've got a mid-2011 mac mini running xubuntu right now. i'd like to switch it to debian. which net installation iso would be best? |
| 22:00.15 | cmhobbs | i've got the i386 iso on a usb stick right now but it throws grub errors |
| 22:00.24 | cmhobbs | should i try amd64 maybe? |
| 22:01.43 | d6fs | do you know if your CPU is 32 or 64bit? |
| 22:02.29 | Krass | Im getting error when launching playonlinux |
| 22:02.32 | Krass | ImportError: No module named wxversion |
| 22:02.32 | Krass | Looking for python... 2.7.9 - selected |
| 22:02.32 | Krass | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 22:02.32 | Krass | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.34 | Krass | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:02.58 | Krass | -___- |
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| 22:03.26 | cmhobbs | d6fs, 64bit |
| 22:03.37 | gabrielsyme | d6fs: yes i have access to the root terminal somehow. checking |
| 22:04.41 | d6fs | gabrielsyme: if you mean tty, then I am not sure that can be used for this graphical app investigation |
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| 22:05.16 | d6fs | cmhobbs: elaborate on grub error? |
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| 22:06.29 | cmhobbs | d6fs, i don't have it in front of me. it complained about the filesystem |
| 22:06.34 | cmhobbs | i'll try the amd64 image |
| 22:06.56 | gabrielsyme | d6fs: well... the terminal just opens if i type gnome-terminal on the root terminal. but it does not open through hotkey or app shortcut. It happened after i tried to install the drop down terminal app (which was not compatible for whatever reason and must have bugged it out). Ill just not mess around on my next install, thank you anyway |
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| 22:09.47 | cheetahw26 | eh... ran out of space, if it's not one thing it's another, I'll just build my own kernel on a USB drive then... so there |
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| 22:14.17 | deface | hi all! |
| 22:14.27 | deface | please mens |
| 22:14.39 | deface | help me with this fuking .htaccess |
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| 22:15.15 | deface | my site working just in this way: www.site.com/index.php/subdomain |
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| 22:15.48 | deface | But have to working in this way www.site.com/subdomain |
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| 22:20.10 | d6fs | deface: I'm afraid you won't get help with such thing here, some web admin channel or forum would probably be better to ask |
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| 22:25.24 | cheetahw26 | deface is rude |
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| 22:25.40 | deface | ja |
| 22:25.44 | deface | i am rude |
| 22:25.47 | deface | i need help |
| 22:25.52 | deface | just help |
| 22:26.05 | deface | one week i have spend for this shit |
| 22:26.09 | deface | no idea |
| 22:26.27 | cheetahw26 | generally volunteers tend to help rude people less |
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| 22:26.45 | petn-randall | deface: Being rude won't get you any help. That's pretty universal. |
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| 22:28.03 | Aebian | what exactly do I need to change that my display don't turn off when on power cable? After some minutes it turns black and I get the login form again |
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| 22:29.10 | petn-randall | Aebian: Is it the screensaver, or does it really log out? |
| 22:29.37 | d6fs | I think it's just a lock after X minutes |
| 22:29.47 | Aebian | d6fs: yeah that |
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| 22:30.15 | petn-randall | Aebian: in that case, check the power management and screensaver setting of your desktop environment. |
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| 22:31.24 | d6fs | if gnome, I think it was in Settings > Privacy > something auto lock, but don't know if it can be done for 'when on power cable' just general |
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| 22:31.35 | Aebian | I'm using cinnamon ^^ |
| 22:31.39 | Aebian | but I will check |
| 22:32.45 | awal1 | Aebian: as petn-randall told you, check your power management and screensaver settings. nothing complicated |
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| 22:34.23 | darius93 | deface, though i shouldnt even comment, you should provide a .htaccess so we can see what you have. alt - you should head to apache channel (if one exist?) and ask there |
| 22:36.12 | deface | URL: myproshot.net |
| 22:36.33 | deface | myproshot.net/index.php/jobs - working |
| 22:36.52 | deface | myproshot.net/jobs - not working |
| 22:37.32 | Wondermutt | deface what do your mod rewrite rules look like? |
| 22:37.38 | Wondermutt | assuming apache httpd here |
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| 22:37.47 | Wondermutt | or is this nginx/lighttpd? |
| 22:37.57 | deface | apache |
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| 22:38.14 | Wondermutt | you have mod_rewrite rules set up? |
| 22:38.26 | Wondermutt | because you absolutely need them to hide the sccript name in the URL |
| 22:38.31 | deface | my .htaccess |
| 22:39.07 | deface | <IfModule mod_rewrite.c> |
| 22:39.07 | deface | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.07 | deface | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.09 | deface | </IfModule> |
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| 22:46.28 | Aebian | petn-randall: awal1: wow that is to easy rly lol. Either I was just blind or stupid, don't know but thanks for that :D |
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| 22:55.43 | Wondermutt | deface you have no rewrite rules on your application |
| 22:55.48 | Wondermutt | so of course the path doesn't work without index.php |
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| 22:56.09 | Wondermutt | that is a web dev issue and apache specific, nothing to do with debian |
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| 23:10.44 | jerzu | what is better to use now, grub or grub2? |
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| 23:11.19 | xoof | grub2 is standard since quite some time now. |
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| 23:11.21 | themill | only one of them is in Debian |
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| 23:11.41 | jerzu | themill: yes? I see both grub and grub2 available |
| 23:12.22 | themill | not in any supported release |
| 23:12.28 | xoof | grub2 is usually refered to as just grub |
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| 23:12.57 | jerzu | themill: I'm in middle of update debian 7 to 8, should I install grub2 at end>? |
| 23:13.10 | jerzu | apt-get shows both as installed in system |
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| 23:14.16 | themill | you should automatically get the grub2 package installed; you should have already removed the 'grub' package and ensured you had migrated to grub2 as part of the squeeze->wheezy upgrade. |
| 23:14.24 | zykotick9 | "only one of them is in Debian" <- that did actually make me LOL |
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| 23:17.04 | jerzu | actually the apt-get dist-upgrade could have been aborted in the middle, due to some error resulting from special local configuration |
| 23:17.27 | jerzu | how to make sure the process finished? other then apt-get install -f |
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| 23:18.48 | cafuego | jerzu: dpkg --configure -a |
| 23:19.08 | cafuego | jerzu: If anything was pending, that'll pick it up. |
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| 23:21.48 | jerzu | hmm I kind of have grub, because it's dependency for grub2, that is of course ok? |
| 23:22.25 | jerzu | now: aptitude search grub | egrep ^i ---> lists: i grub-common i A grub-pc i A grub-pc-bin i grub2 i grub2-common |
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| 23:23.03 | markybob | yes but grub-common is version 2 something. that's grub2 |
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| 23:24.30 | jerzu | ok |
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| 23:25.07 | at0m | ,v grub2 |
| 23:25.08 | judd | Package: grub2 on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze2; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.99-27+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.99-27+deb7u3; jessie: 2.02~beta2-22; jessie-security: 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1; stretch: 2.02~beta2-33; sid: 2.02~beta2-35 |
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| 23:26.29 | xoof | problem installing testing here: |
| 23:26.39 | xoof | installed testing to an usb thumbdrive with btrfs root fs in lvm and ext2 for /boot |
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| 23:26.51 | xoof | now it won't boot. trying to grub-install from rescue system fails: |
| 23:26.52 | markybob | xoof, testing support is #debian-next of irc.oftc.net |
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| 23:27.48 | xoof | markybob: oh. tried to go to #debian-next on freenode, was redirected here... |
| 23:28.08 | markybob | xoof that's because it's on irc.oftc.net not freenode :P per /topic |
| 23:28.36 | at0m | dpkg: tell xoof about testing |
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| 23:29.45 | Vagineer | LET IT GO |
| 23:29.51 | Vagineer | DON'T HOLD IT BACK ANYMORE |
| 23:29.52 | Vagineer | LET IT GO |
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| 23:32.07 | andril | hello |
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| 23:34.14 | gabrielsyme | I'm trying to install a locale using # dpkg-reconfigure locales. This only gives me a list of the default locales provided, is there a way to make it recognize a new locale added to /usr/share/i18n/locales? |
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| 23:34.50 | quotemstr | Will Iceweasel enforce extension signing once it becomes mandatory in Firefox? |
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| 23:44.03 | markybob | quotemstr, i think it will. there's already a bug report in debian for it, though. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798005 |
| 23:44.06 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/798005 in iceweasel (open): «Allow disabling Add-on signing in IceWeasel 42+»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-04; last modified: 2015-12-09. |
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| 23:48.14 | quotemstr | markybob: Thanks for the pointer. |
| 23:48.29 | quotemstr | markybob: There doesn't appear to be any resolution for that bug. |
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| 23:49.39 | PhilippeVienne | Hello, how to make an autologin with xdm ? |
| 23:50.01 | themill | something like nodm probably makes more sense |
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| 23:50.53 | PhilippeVienne | themill: Are you answering to me ? |
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| 23:51.50 | PhilippeVienne | themill: Okay I've read the doc of nodm really thanks |
| 23:53.51 | themill | np |
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