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| 00:15.21 | kojin | hi all |
| 00:15.58 | kojin | I've a problem with apt-get, when I run apt-get update it doesn't work... My network is working |
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| 00:16.18 | kojin | here my sources.list file > http://pastebin.com/HZTAU3AR |
| 00:16.26 | kojin | can someone help me please? |
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| 00:16.48 | andril | is there anyway to make the terminal transparent? |
| 00:17.34 | kojin | andril: which terminal are you using? |
| 00:18.31 | markybob | andril, a lot of them can. i use xfce4-terminal. edit -> preferences->appearance->transparency |
| 00:18.37 | andril | kojin, default terminal |
| 00:18.56 | andril | i am using Gnome |
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| 00:19.58 | markybob | kojin, i can't ping that. try replacing it with http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 00:20.47 | kojin | andril: markybob tell you the solution |
| 00:20.58 | kojin | markybob: now try |
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| 00:22.41 | andril | kojin, ?? |
| 00:23.34 | kojin | andril: you must edit the background preferencies in the gnome-terminal menu |
| 00:23.43 | kojin | markybob: same thing... doesn't work |
| 00:24.01 | kojin | andril: http://askubuntu.com/questions/644761/how-to-make-the-gnome-terminal-transparent |
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| 00:25.06 | TomTomTo1 | kojin: that's ubuntu, not debian. i don't think that's possible with gnome-terminal in debian. jessie at least. |
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| 00:26.12 | andril | thanks kojin but that box is gone |
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| 00:26.55 | TomTomTo1 | andril: maybe try terminator. |
| 00:27.05 | kojin | andril: so you must install urxvt in my opinion |
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| 00:29.26 | andril | thanks TomTomTo1 |
| 00:29.41 | andril | thanks kojin |
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| 00:30.24 | kojin | you're welcome |
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| 00:41.36 | andril | got a noob question |
| 00:41.45 | andril | are PPA's safe? |
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| 00:42.00 | andril | i am trying to get Lollypop |
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| 00:44.00 | AvatarA | PPAs are an Ubuntu thing, and they occasionally break even there |
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| 00:52.01 | Triski | andril: if not sure about package safety, download source code and compile |
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| 00:56.35 | Pymous | Hey ! |
| 00:56.59 | Pymous | I'm sudenly having issue with jbd2 on my Debian, is there a way to disable journaling without restarting ? |
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| 00:57.57 | calher | Why is nautilus-dropbox in non-free? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/nautilus-dropbox |
| 00:58.35 | awal1 | I'm interested by activate/deactivate the xfce4-power-manager feature 'presentation mode' via keyboard shortcut/cli. Any explanation (technical) on what this command does exactly "xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/presentation-mode -T" Found it in https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=9353 |
| 00:58.53 | awal1 | I would like understand what all that command does before use it :) |
| 00:58.57 | markybob | calher, because it downloads a proprietary binary from dropbox.com |
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| 00:59.54 | awal1 | I dont find anything related in man |
| 01:00.08 | Darth_Vader | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:00.28 | Triski | awal1: it prevents the system to enter hybernation or suspend state |
| 01:00.32 | LambdaComplex | i think the aur has spoiled me |
| 01:00.43 | LambdaComplex | am i gonna have to...like....actually use the `make` command? |
| 01:01.32 | awal1 | Triski: yeah, I know that and I use that feature with right mouse clic in xfce4-power-manager tray icon, but I want understand what the command does exactly |
| 01:02.30 | awal1 | almost the -c, -p and -T options |
| 01:02.33 | Triski | awal1: that is the command to toggle it |
| 01:03.03 | awal1 | Triski : lol, that's obvious :D |
| 01:03.21 | Triski | awal1: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfconf/xfconf-query |
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| 01:05.21 | awal1 | excuse, keyboard error |
| 01:05.30 | awal1 | Triski: ok, thanks!!! |
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| 01:05.41 | Triski | you´re welcome |
| 01:05.51 | awal1 | I don't knew that xfce have xconf-query utility |
| 01:06.53 | awal1 | seems that xfconf-query isn't xfce only related? |
| 01:07.52 | awal1 | whatis xfconf-query ---» xfconf-query (1) - Command line utility for xfconf system |
| 01:07.58 | awal1 | xf refers to xfce? |
| 01:08.10 | Triski | xfconf is only for xfce i think |
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| 01:09.24 | awal1 | seems, yeah. Ok, thanks Triski |
| 01:09.25 | Triski | seems that not follows the freedesktop config-spec |
| 01:10.02 | awal1 | again excuse. trying to use completion and had keyboard typing error :D |
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| 01:11.05 | awal1 | Great, with xfconf-query my openbox is everyday more complet :) |
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| 01:40.51 | alexsson | Hi |
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| 01:41.48 | svennebanan | Hi |
| 01:42.11 | svennebanan | where can I find really nice Fluxbox themes? |
| 01:43.35 | paperdigits | duckduckgo search for "fluxbox themes" |
| 01:43.36 | Snoob | ooh |
| 01:43.43 | Snoob | people use flux? |
| 01:43.54 | svennebanan | I cant find anything good |
| 01:43.54 | Snoob | cool. |
| 01:43.59 | svennebanan | I want good fluxbox themes |
| 01:44.03 | svennebanan | that looks nice |
| 01:44.04 | svennebanan | anyone? |
| 01:44.09 | Snoob | i want a theme based on person of interest. |
| 01:44.34 | Snoob | sorry no i barely sit in front of my debian box |
| 01:45.04 | svennebanan | seriously, anyone knows anyone that make good fluxbox screenshots? |
| 01:45.37 | svennebanan | Because, Fluxbox looks like shit |
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| 01:48.35 | Snoob | googles |
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| 01:49.15 | Snoob | gets lost in the themes |
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| 04:10.51 | LambdaComplex | How do I check which video driver is being used? |
| 04:11.25 | test123 | a |
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| 04:12.17 | bugnuts | LambdaComplex, not sure but love the name |
| 04:12.28 | test123 | just download vim 7.4 using apt-get (debian 8) but dont have python support. I read about recompiled, but i have no idea. Can explain a easy way? |
| 04:12.48 | LambdaComplex | bugnuts: Thanks :D |
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| 04:16.00 | LambdaComplex | i installed x and openbox from a chroot earlier and booted to debian |
| 04:16.10 | LambdaComplex | sadly the resolution was 1024x768 |
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| 04:52.39 | AlwaysHigh | well to configure to utilize 10gbit im currently only sitting on 350MB/s |
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| 05:31.02 | grantwu | What does a "fiducial boot server" mean on this page? https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall |
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| 05:37.23 | grantwu | valdyn: Thanks |
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| 05:53.21 | daeo | Its been a while since I added sources manually in debian and I'm trying to add one right now. I know to edit /etc/apt/sources.list , but I'm not having luck trying to add http://ftp.us.debian.org/debain/dists/wheezy. What would be the best way to do this? |
| 05:54.14 | daeo | and hello to abrotman also |
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| 06:08.54 | valdyn | !sources.list |
| 06:08.55 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 06:18.06 | rootd00d | please help me gnome-shell... you're my only hope. |
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| 06:22.58 | well_laid_lawn | try a tiler |
| 06:23.03 | well_laid_lawn | ffs |
| 06:24.18 | daeo | valdyn: thanks! I am trying to adjust these for wheezy now |
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| 06:29.35 | squisher | hey folks, does someone have an idea why systemd may think that module loading failed when I don't actually have any statically configured modules to load? http://paste.debian.net/367476/ |
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| 06:38.20 | well_laid_lawn | squisher: it "could" be failing since there's nothing for it to do - maybe the fail needs to be worded differently |
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| 06:38.37 | well_laid_lawn | if the system works ok just ignore it |
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| 06:39.16 | bugnuts | are there any torrents that autoban/ban a bad seeder on debian (hash fail) |
| 06:40.00 | bugnuts | err torrent clients i mean |
| 06:40.32 | well_laid_lawn | if you're a bad seeder they all should fuck you back |
| 06:40.43 | mikedh | the package tracker says "A new upstream version is available, you should consider packaging it." Are there any instructions on how to do this and get the updated package into unstable? |
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| 06:41.34 | well_laid_lawn | you could send the maintainer an email mikedh |
| 06:43.54 | mikedh | alright I'll start off with that. thanks, I didn't realize that was an option |
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| 06:45.52 | well_laid_lawn | someone has obviously put the effort into packaging it I'm sure they won't mind a heads up |
| 06:46.00 | squisher | well_laid_lawn, it looks like other services (netfilter-persistent) are failing because of it, or at the very least that's my guess |
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| 06:50.04 | mikedh | well_laid_lawn: is packaging something that anyone can do or just maintainers? |
| 06:50.37 | well_laid_lawn | mikedh: just maintainers afaik |
| 06:50.59 | well_laid_lawn | squisher: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Troubleshooting might help you move a little bit forward |
| 06:51.15 | well_laid_lawn | first example is for modules |
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| 06:51.36 | well_laid_lawn | !packaging |
| 06:51.36 | dpkg | See http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers for information on how to package for Debian. Also ask me about <nmg> <package basics> <policy> <mentors> and <best practices>. |
| 06:51.45 | well_laid_lawn | mikedh: ^^ |
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| 06:52.12 | Mitzelflick | does debian 8 have postgres 9.5? |
| 06:52.13 | Mitzelflick | yes or no |
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| 06:52.35 | Mitzelflick | or it more a matter of using a repo on pg side? I remember something of that |
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| 06:52.40 | Mitzelflick | hmm |
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| 06:52.56 | Mitzelflick | how hard is it to pack up a java spring webapp as debian package? |
| 06:53.00 | Mitzelflick | esp if it has deps |
| 06:53.06 | Mitzelflick | like tomcat and some jars |
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| 06:56.05 | johnkeates | does stretch have it's own channel? |
| 06:57.17 | well_laid_lawn | !stretch |
| 06:57.18 | dpkg | The release following Debian 8 "Jessie" is codenamed "Stretch" (the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3) and will be Debian 9: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch |
| 06:57.50 | mikedh | well_laid_lawn: thanks, that gives me a lot of info |
| 06:58.04 | johnkeates | yes, i know that, but I thought i read once there was something like debian-next but it can't join that channel |
| 06:58.04 | well_laid_lawn | mikedh: good luck :) |
| 06:58.10 | johnkeates | thanks ;) |
| 06:58.32 | johnkeates | ah, mikedh has a similar question? |
| 06:58.35 | bugnuts | im stuck, im trying to seedbox a distro, it uses openbittorrent tracker which blocks whole server farm ips, someone trying to be helpfull has cut and pasted an image into their torrent client which is failing hash and seeding gigabites of "corrupted" data im trying to download and seed the last 25% from the webseed to the seedbox but the seeder is blocking that out, how do i ban them by ip, and then proceed as normal to download off the single |
| 06:58.35 | bugnuts | weebseed so i can feed the seedbox and fix the torrent swarm? |
| 06:59.00 | well_laid_lawn | johnkeates: mikedh was asking about packaging |
| 06:59.03 | johnkeates | oh |
| 07:00.38 | bugnuts | or does anyone know of any torrent client that lets me autoban/ban by ip |
| 07:00.45 | bugnuts | debian/fedora |
| 07:00.50 | johnkeates | all of them, but it's by using a blacklist |
| 07:00.54 | bugnuts | no windows :( |
| 07:01.01 | bugnuts | exactly |
| 07:01.16 | bugnuts | any autblacklist? |
| 07:01.21 | johnkeates | simply serve your own blacklist for yourself |
| 07:01.30 | bugnuts | owh? syntax for blacklist? |
| 07:01.48 | johnkeates | start a simple static file web server, put the blacklist on it and point the client there |
| 07:02.06 | johnkeates | well, it's usually list a "one IP per line" or "one CIDR per line" format |
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| 07:02.12 | bugnuts | nice |
| 07:02.13 | bugnuts | ok |
| 07:02.14 | bugnuts | ty |
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| 07:02.22 | bugnuts | tyvm!!!! |
| 07:03.04 | strk | whats a good DE for use from the couch ? still need terminal and browser |
| 07:04.01 | well_laid_lawn | any de or wm will work fine from a couch |
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| 07:04.12 | johnkeates | you're mostly going to need to do scaling |
| 07:04.15 | well_laid_lawn | I built my wm sitting on a couch |
| 07:04.37 | johnkeates | depending on the resolution and physical dimensions of the panel and your distance |
| 07:05.08 | johnkeates | there are actual formulas for that, search '10 foot interface' and 'tv size calculator' |
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| 07:06.32 | strk | I'm using mate on 27" 1920x1080 -- scaling is ok with per-app settings but windows decorations are too small |
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| 07:06.52 | strk | johnkeates: thx, looking up |
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| 07:07.50 | johncarter | hi |
| 07:08.12 | johnkeates | hi |
| 07:08.34 | johnkeates | our names are of equal length and the first four letters match, this is pleasing |
| 07:09.09 | johncarter | yeah ahaha |
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| 07:11.59 | johnkeates | anyone here running xen 4.6 on stretch and having xenstored troubles too? |
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| 07:20.07 | bugnuts | unfortunatley its not working, with ip and ip; i dont know the cldr because subnet isnt specified in transmission *sigh* anyone got a windows partition handy and a bit of bandwith to spare? |
| 07:21.36 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | MY SHIFT KEY IS STUCK AS "ON" IN DEBIAN. HOW DO I RESET ITS STATE? |
| 07:21.36 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.51 | johnkeates | probably caps-lock |
| 07:22.21 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | MY CAPS LOCK IS DISABLED AS ANOTHER CONTROL. I'M NO LOSER ;) |
| 07:22.35 | johnkeates | start the on-screen keyboard and disconnect the one you are using to find out if your keyboard is broken |
| 07:22.41 | johnkeates | type with the mouse |
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| 07:27.39 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | So nobody knows how to simply send an "Shift Up" signal to the keyboard? |
| 07:27.54 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | (I can't find any on screen keyboard command even with apropos) |
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| 07:31.36 | johnkeates | you can't send stuff to the keyboard, it's a one way stream |
| 07:31.46 | johnkeates | except for the LED's in some cases |
| 07:31.53 | johnkeates | replugging the keyboard should reset it |
| 07:32.06 | johnkeates | if it doesn't either it's broken or it's simply not the keyboard |
| 07:32.13 | johnkeates | the on-screen keyboard is called gok |
| 07:32.28 | johnkeates | also, holding shift while it's in caps-lock mode cancels it out |
| 07:32.39 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | Yeah, I just caps-locked to cancel it |
| 07:32.41 | johnkeates | if you have a stuck shift, enabling caps-lock might actually cancel that one out |
| 07:32.46 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 07:32.51 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | So, it will probably be fine, and next reboot it will be back to normal. |
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| 07:33.08 | johnkeates | or the keyboard membrane is cooked and it will be bad forever :p |
| 07:33.13 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | Nonsense! :P |
| 07:33.31 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | I was just looking for a cooler solution |
| 07:33.44 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | Membrane? Psha ha ha |
| 07:35.51 | STUCKSHIFTKEY | Anyway, thanks johnkeates , godspeed |
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| 07:35.57 | lesta | loadkeys us |
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| 08:21.41 | j__ | I was using the program "recordmydesktop" and it saves the vid files to I guess the tmp/ directory or somewhere on the root / directory, and well my root dir is only 50gig while my /home directory is 200gig, so my root directory gets filled and I can't record a vid for me than a 10 mins or so, so I wondering if anyone know off hand how to change that tmp directory location so it on my home dir instead. |
| 08:24.13 | j__ | found it --worddir DIR |
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| 08:59.11 | Klingan | hello i just installed debian for the first time. it feels great, however, i can't set the correct resolution on my screen. |
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| 09:07.41 | beepie | Klingan, what desktop? |
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| 09:11.48 | Klingan | well im on KDE now |
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| 09:12.18 | Klingan | but i installed some other desktops just to get a feel and same/wrong resolution. |
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| 09:12.57 | Klingan | I don't know the name of my graphicscard. |
| 09:13.14 | beepie | Klingan, what motherboard do you have? |
| 09:13.47 | beepie | Klingan, if you install things, you need to do know these things |
| 09:13.59 | beepie | Klingan, the most important for you of course is what "video" gfx you are using |
| 09:14.02 | Klingan | I think it's from ASUS, with a 64bit AMD CPU |
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| 09:14.45 | beepie | Klingan, there's an app called hardinfo which can show things neatly |
| 09:15.03 | Klingan | cool |
| 09:15.28 | beepie | it'll be installed in system/system_profiler_benchmark in the mneu |
| 09:15.35 | beepie | (package is hardinfo) |
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| 10:24.01 | iio7 | I am trying to upgrade a cubox (arm) from Wheezy to Jessie, but I keep running into problems with udev. When I try to install latest kernel from backports: http://pastebin.com/QE8sfJNR, then trying to solve that installing udev: http://pastebin.com/mUy2tcdQ |
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| 10:24.25 | iio7 | How do I solve that, one is depending upon the other, but the other won't install as long as the first is running. |
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| 10:47.34 | rootd00d | anyone have any luck running popcorntime on sid? with 3.2, i just get a black screen after an initial splash. |
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| 10:48.30 | markybob | rootd00d, it's not appropriate to ask about piracy in here |
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| 10:48.44 | markybob | rootd00d, plus sid support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 10:48.57 | rootd00d | i'm not. i'm asking about a piece of software running on an operating system named debian. |
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| 10:49.59 | bazhang | #debian-next on irc.oftc.net rootd00d |
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| 10:56.24 | cybrNaut | i need a thermostat app |
| 10:56.39 | cybrNaut | i tried "aptitude search '~d thermostat'", but nothing interesting |
| 10:56.57 | cybrNaut | i tried "aptitude search '~d home automation'", but no result |
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| 10:57.09 | cybrNaut | suggestions? |
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| 11:52.36 | Kaliiiixx | Hello guys. |
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| 11:53.19 | Kaliiiixx | Following https://github.com/umiddelb/armhf/wiki/Installing,-running,-using-docker-on-armhf-%28ARMv7%29-devices , I should install cgroups-lite to use docker |
| 11:53.33 | Kaliiiixx | But this package doesn't exist under this name anymore |
| 11:53.51 | Kaliiiixx | I don't know wich choose between them :/ http://ix.io/nFD |
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| 12:02.25 | citrix | Hi all |
| 12:02.48 | citrix | Please suggest any smallest debian flavour linux for my RPi ? |
| 12:03.31 | SynrG | Debian itself can be made as small as you like. |
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| 12:04.49 | citrix | SynrG, I want it in 28 mb ~ 128 mb |
| 12:04.58 | citrix | Not more than that |
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| 12:05.09 | citrix | no need of any DM |
| 12:05.11 | SynrG | citrix: if you're talking about derivatives, like raspbian, they aren't supported here |
| 12:05.13 | citrix | ssh and ap |
| 12:05.14 | cluelessperson | hi all. How small can a debian installation get exactly? |
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| 12:05.52 | citrix | SynrG, I am not exactly needs that but atlease it must have ssh and apt |
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| 12:08.02 | citrix | SynrG, can it be possible? |
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| 12:10.03 | SynrG | I don't have current figures and in particular i don't know anything about your architecture, sorry |
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| 12:10.43 | SynrG | Theoretically, very small installs could be made with a highly customized debootstrap |
| 12:10.44 | mitrax | When there's a faulty fs (ext4) detected at boot does fsck run before the network service is started? (i.e should i be worried about the box not responding to ping? or is that expected during fsck) |
| 12:11.18 | citrix | SynrG, I have rpi 2 |
| 12:11.20 | SynrG | Read the debootstrap doc and experiment |
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| 12:13.12 | SynrG | "minimal" means different things to different people. search the web to see what people are trying |
| 12:13.48 | SynrG | There are plenty of people who would like what you want, just probably not a high concentration of them here. |
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| 12:14.15 | cluelessperson | SynrG, I want barebones |
| 12:14.28 | SynrG | Also beware that we do not support derivatives here, just pure Debian |
| 12:14.55 | SynrG | Again "barebones" is not well defined. |
| 12:15.31 | sh00p | mitrax, ping did not work for me last time that happened |
| 12:15.47 | sh00p | you can manually set up networking from the shell and get it to work though |
| 12:15.58 | SynrG | Try debootstrap which makes a base system without a kernel, measure it, and then tweak to suit your needs. |
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| 12:17.45 | SynrG | Doesn't include a boot loader either |
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| 12:18.47 | citrix | SynrG, please suggest any one for me, which have a commandline apt , ssh |
| 12:19.03 | SynrG | No. That's off topic for here |
| 12:19.14 | SynrG | Besides which i simply don't know |
| 12:19.31 | citrix | But i am intrested in debian.. |
| 12:19.31 | citrix | Ok |
| 12:19.35 | SynrG | Maybe find a rpi channel |
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| 12:19.56 | citrix | OK |
| 12:20.00 | citrix | I will try there |
| 12:20.00 | SynrG | !rpi |
| 12:20.00 | dpkg | The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:20.07 | SynrG | Good luck |
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| 12:21.01 | SynrG | As i said, derivatives aren't Debian and aren't supported here. That's why choosing one is off topic. |
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| 12:22.32 | SynrG | Clu |
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| 12:23.16 | SynrG | cluelessperson: Really, experimenting on your own is the best way to find out |
| 12:23.43 | SynrG | It depends on your specific needs and tradeoffs you are willing to make |
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| 12:27.30 | SynrG | cluelessperson: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/html/live-manual.en.html#890 |
| 12:27.35 | SynrG | One example |
| 12:29.51 | SynrG | It's a simple example. The discussion in that section hints at how to make it even smaller |
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| 12:30.30 | SynrG | That's where you get into more serious tradeoffs that need careful thought |
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| 12:35.29 | Shibe | how can I install non-smp kernel on debian? |
| 12:35.32 | Shibe | for single core server |
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| 12:49.04 | SynrGy | Shibe: in jessie there is still 586 flavour |
| 12:49.20 | SynrGy | Shibe: in stretch, even that will be dropped. |
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| 12:51.01 | SynrGy | oh, non-smp, not non-pae |
| 12:51.58 | futurist | any way to disable annoying nautilus search? |
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| 12:52.32 | futurist | why new totem player lacks playlist? |
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| 12:53.15 | futurist | gnome with every release has less and less features |
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| 12:53.41 | SynrGy | Shibe: i believe you can boot with 'nosmp' boot parameter to disable smp. |
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| 12:54.15 | SynrGy | Shibe: see man bootparam |
| 12:54.26 | Shibe | ok |
| 12:55.10 | SynrGy | Shibe: i don't know what that buys you. if only one CPU without HT is detected, i would think SMP would not be enabled at all |
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| 12:55.33 | SynrGy | so i doubt if you really need the parameter |
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| 12:55.54 | SynrGy | and if the uniprocessor system *does* have HT, why would you want to disable it? |
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| 12:59.08 | SynrGy | Shibe: if you're looking for performance improvement, you need to measure carefully. HT (Hyperthreading) generally improves performance. if there are any negative effects for your use cases, though, you need to measure to see if disabling smp helps. i have my doubts. |
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| 13:03.31 | Shibe | SynrG: it doesnt seem to have HT |
| 13:03.34 | Shibe | only 1 thread per core |
| 13:06.01 | Shibe | guys |
| 13:06.06 | Shibe | my debian vps2 takes 4 minutes for userspace to boot |
| 13:06.08 | Shibe | is this normal? |
| 13:06.25 | Shibe | and I can't start sshd before that |
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| 13:06.38 | Shibe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:08.14 | introom | any equivalent package to this one in archlinux? https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux-docs/ |
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| 13:14.12 | hiya | W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 13:14.16 | babilen | introom: linux-doc comes to mind |
| 13:14.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell introom -about search |
| 13:14.26 | hiya | why would this happen when I try aptitude update and upgrade |
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| 13:14.40 | Keiser | hello |
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| 13:15.11 | Keiser | i want to know in which files are present one word |
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| 13:15.37 | Keiser | i tried "cat * | grep -i word" but it don't show the file where found the lines |
| 13:15.38 | SynrGy | Shibe: as the doc warns, some services may be slow just because they are waiting for other things they depend on to start first. are you certain cloud-init is the thing that contributes to all that extra time? |
| 13:15.43 | SynrGy | Shibe: or is that just the last thing? |
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| 13:15.55 | Shibe | SynrG: systemd-analyze blame seems to show cloud-init taking 4 mins |
| 13:16.05 | Shibe | but I think digitalocean needs it so I cant remove it sadly |
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| 13:16.10 | SynrGy | shrugs |
| 13:16.11 | babilen | Keiser: That's a useless use of cat. Just "grep -f 'foo' /path/to/files*" |
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| 13:16.45 | SynrGy | Shibe: i have no idea what cloud-init is doing, sorry :/ I guess you need to dig deeper and see if it can tell you (through turning on debug level or some such) |
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| 13:17.02 | babilen | s/-f/-i/ |
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| 13:17.14 | babilen | Shibe: .. or as DO about it |
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| 13:17.28 | babilen | There is #digitalocean after all |
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| 13:17.50 | SynrGy | nods |
| 13:18.02 | Keiser | babilen, grep -f *.php | grep -i word <--- it works. Thanks ! |
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| 13:18.31 | babilen | Keiser: "grep -i word *.php" is probably what you are looking for |
| 13:18.59 | Keiser | nicest xd |
| 13:19.57 | Exagone313 | Hi, I encountered errors while installing iptables-persistent: http://dpaste.com/10PN3W6 What do I do? Thanks for your help. |
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| 13:24.11 | Exagone313 | same with aptitude (normal) |
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| 13:28.03 | Exagone313 | ok i'm goging to use a start up script... |
| 13:28.06 | Exagone313 | going |
| 13:28.07 | babilen | Exagone313: Anything of interest in 'journalctl -xn' as mentioned? |
| 13:28.26 | Exagone313 | No journal files were found. |
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| 13:29.00 | Exagone313 | seems like this package is mis-configured |
| 13:30.22 | babilen | Exagone313: You might want to read /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz concerning logging .. What happens if you try to start the service? |
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| 13:30.49 | Exagone313 | the package isn't installed completly anyway |
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| 13:31.07 | Exagone313 | it should provide 'iptables-save' and it does not |
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| 13:32.45 | Snoob | Did you try installing netfilter-persistant by itself first. |
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| 13:33.51 | Exagone313 | hmm E: Unable to locate package netfilter-persistant |
| 13:33.58 | aftreb | how can i tell my debian to automatically remove a file after a second rebooting? |
| 13:34.09 | babilen | (and iptables-save is in the iptables package) |
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| 13:34.26 | Exagone313 | babilen: no it's not |
| 13:34.30 | Exagone313 | apparently |
| 13:34.37 | Exagone313 | iptables is aleardy installed |
| 13:34.44 | Exagone313 | already |
| 13:35.10 | Snoob | it just not starting correclty dude to te netfilter persisttant not being installed? |
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| 13:35.57 | babilen | Exagone313: What does "dpkg -l iptables" and "dpkg -S /sbin/iptables-save" give you? |
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| 13:37.36 | Exagone313 | iptables: /sbin/iptables-save |
| 13:37.39 | Exagone313 | huh |
| 13:37.47 | Exagone313 | sbin nopt in path maybe |
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| 13:37.57 | babilen | Exagone313: That is an entirely different issue |
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| 13:38.13 | Exagone313 | I'm from Ubuntu, never had this issue ^^ |
| 13:39.16 | Exagone313 | what for netfilter-persistant? |
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| 13:40.00 | babilen | Exagone313: How are you trying to run iptables-save ? |
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| 13:41.25 | Exagone313 | /sbin/iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4 (then /sbin/ip6tables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v6 ) |
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| 13:41.44 | Exagone313 | this files is supposed to be used by iptables/netfilter-persistant |
| 13:42.01 | babilen | Exagone313: That would work despite any PATH settings |
| 13:42.14 | Exagone313 | I added /sbin/ just now |
| 13:42.26 | babilen | And you are running it as root? |
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| 13:42.34 | Exagone313 | yes of course but that is not the problem |
| 13:42.42 | Exagone313 | http://dpaste.com/10PN3W6 |
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| 13:42.53 | babilen | root's PATH would contain /sbin .. are you sure that you are not using sudo? |
| 13:42.58 | sh00p | so I had port 22 open on my router for a while... and had forgotten that I had this foobar account on my server with user tmp, and password tmp... I saw in my auth.log that there was a login and a logout immediately... probably by a bot |
| 13:43.13 | sh00p | is my system compromised you think? format c: only way out? |
| 13:43.23 | sh00p | to be sure |
| 13:43.32 | Exagone313 | netfilter-persistent does not exists so iptables-persistent is not installed properly so I don't know if it works |
| 13:44.01 | babilen | Exagone313: One thing at a time: Are you sure that you are not using sudo to run iptables-save ? |
| 13:44.13 | Exagone313 | yes as root there is /sbin |
| 13:44.18 | Exagone313 | not the issue |
| 13:44.27 | Exagone313 | see my paste |
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| 13:45.15 | Exagone313 | sh00p: tmp user with what permissions on the system? |
| 13:45.37 | babilen | Exagone313: Which brings us back to my earlier question: What happens if you start the service manually? Have you configured persistent logging by now? |
| 13:45.43 | Exagone313 | it could use your connection at worse, maybe |
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| 13:46.02 | Exagone313 | persistent logging? |
| 13:46.15 | sh00p | Exagone313 standard permissions only, most on my system is umask 022 |
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| 13:46.29 | sh00p | but I'm not really worried what he found |
| 13:46.50 | sh00p | more like if he rooted d my system and hid shit |
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| 13:47.14 | babilen | Exagone313: Yes, I referred to systemd's README.Debian earlier |
| 13:47.33 | Exagone313 | can you give me some links? |
| 13:47.43 | Exagone313 | I don't what what you're talking about exactly |
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| 13:48.27 | babilen | "14:30:21 babilen > Exagone313: You might want to read /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz concerning logging .. What happens if you try to start the service?" |
| 13:48.34 | Exagone313 | I have no /etc/init.d/iptab* |
| 13:49.11 | Exagone313 | I don't have such file bash: type: /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz: not found |
| 13:49.20 | babilen | Exagone313: The service that fails is "netfilter-persistent" |
| 13:49.36 | babilen | Exagone313: Remove the .gz |
| 13:49.39 | Exagone313 | ok sorry have it |
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| 13:51.30 | Exagone313 | I'm not sure what does this file should learn to me |
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| 13:52.38 | Exagone313 | systemd[1]: Unit systemd-modules-load.service entered failed state. |
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| 13:52.57 | Exagone313 | from journalctl -xn afdter trying to start netfilter-persistent |
| 13:53.55 | deanc | Afternoon. I'm running wheezy. I want to run openssh > 6.5 in order to use Ed25519 keys. What is the easiest option for a debian beginner to do this? |
| 13:54.01 | deanc | latest package appears to be 6.0 |
| 13:54.13 | Exagone313 | wait, if I run the command present for start in the service, in run without any problem |
| 13:54.29 | sh00p | try backports deanc |
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| 13:54.38 | deanc | https://scottlinux.com/2014/01/03/install-openssh-6-x-on-debian-wheezy-from-wheezy-backports/ would this do the trick sh00p? |
| 13:54.56 | sh00p | yes, exactly like that |
| 13:55.08 | sh00p | granted that 6.5 is in backports |
| 13:55.35 | deanc | one last question, if i add that repo as a source if i do a normal apt-get upgrade will it upgrade everything according to that repo? |
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| 13:55.50 | sh00p | no, it will only install from there if you give it -t backports |
| 13:56.02 | deanc | perfect! |
| 13:56.12 | sh00p | yes it's very neat indeed |
| 13:56.24 | Exagone313 | the only file it "may" cause the problem is /lib/lsb/init-functions |
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| 13:56.30 | deanc | let's see ;) |
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| 13:56.42 | deanc | 6.6 great, thanks sh00p |
| 13:56.57 | deanc | < happy customer. ciao! |
| 13:56.57 | sh00p | np |
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| 14:05.32 | babilen | Exagone313: So, what does actually happen if you start the service manually? |
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| 14:05.42 | babilen | Could you paste the output? |
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| 14:08.54 | Exagone313 | babilen: http://dpaste.com/06M653D |
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| 14:09.53 | Exagone313 | Failed to insert 'ipmi_si': No such device << |
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| 14:10.08 | babilen | Indeed |
| 14:10.21 | Exagone313 | what doe sit mean? |
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| 14:12.33 | babilen | Exagone313: That the loading of a kernel module failed. What does "uname -a" and "modinfo ipmi_si" give you? |
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| 14:13.49 | hrob2 | olah |
| 14:14.12 | Exagone313 | babilen: http://dpaste.com/2FNEA23 |
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| 14:16.13 | babilen | Exagone313: Can you load it? |
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| 14:16.28 | babilen | (but I'm needed elsewhere now .. continue in this manner) |
| 14:16.31 | Exagone313 | with? |
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| 14:18.00 | babilen | modprobe |
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| 14:18.09 | Snoob | lol |
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| 14:19.30 | Exagone313 | # modprobe ipmi_si => modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ipmi_si': No such device |
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| 14:19.57 | babilen | Exagone313: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760513 |
| 14:19.58 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/760513 in netfilter-persistent (closed): «netfilter-persistent: Postinst aborts with an error»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-09-04; last modified: 2014-10-05. |
| 14:20.15 | babilen | I'd also recommend to search for other error messages |
| 14:20.49 | Exagone313 | I don't hve this line in /etc/modules |
| 14:20.55 | Exagone313 | I mean, in the last post |
| 14:21.21 | Exagone313 | I've read too bugs, this one and another, not really concerned :s |
| 14:21.25 | Exagone313 | two* |
| 14:21.44 | babilen | Well .. it typically helps to mention what you have done and discarded |
| 14:21.54 | babilen | It's not that people in here memorised the internet and the BTS |
| 14:22.00 | babilen | But good luck! |
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| 14:22.37 | Exagone313 | I think I uninstall those packages, and I use crontab -e in root, then add a @reboot line |
| 14:22.51 | Exagone313 | I don't know if this is the best way |
| 14:22.57 | calher | We don't have the money to get Windows. How do I convince someone they can use Debian instead? |
| 14:23.06 | Exagone313 | it does not work ok |
| 14:24.00 | Snoob | calher what do you need to run windows or debian for? |
| 14:24.12 | Snoob | thats the key what does that pc/server/whatever need to do. |
| 14:24.14 | Exagone313 | calher: the open source thing means that people can look at the code and find bugs, with undefined time. so bugs and vulnerabilities are checked more often |
| 14:24.31 | calher | Snoob: Whatever someone outside home wants them to run that doesn't work on the Android tablet. |
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| 14:25.12 | calher | Snoob: The only issue seemed to be for jobs and Netflix, but now they don't have a job and their Netflix is on their tablet. |
| 14:25.48 | Snoob | so they want netflix on there tv? |
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| 14:26.02 | Snoob | do they have a computer already? |
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| 14:28.53 | maxorator | hi, my debian server seems to be unable to be unable to end various processes |
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| 14:29.21 | maxorator | up-to-date on testing release channel |
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| 14:30.57 | maxorator | this seems to affect various different processes, for example "pidof sshd" gives around ~4000 processes |
| 14:31.08 | maxorator | these processes cannot be killed via kill -9, nothing happens |
| 14:31.27 | Ghostbird | Hey guys, does anyone know whether there's a 64-bit Debian installer with a 32-bootloader? My friend wants to install Debian on an Intel Atom device. Those have 64-bit CPU, but require a 32-bit bootloader. |
| 14:31.34 | maxorator | this is not just sshd though, pretty much anything else that gets started frequently |
| 14:32.09 | calher | Snoob: They have a tablet and they had the laptop I am using right now. But I got uncomfortable on Windows 10 so I installed GNU/Linux. |
| 14:32.33 | zykotick9 | Ghostbird: i used the regular 64bit netinst with my 64bit atom, and it worked fine... ymmv |
| 14:33.10 | Ghostbird | Hmm... He said that didn't work. Maybe I'll push him to try again. |
| 14:33.19 | calher | Snoob: But before creating a dual-boot setup, I installed lots of free software apps, and they didn't like all that clutter. I couldn't remove lots of packages very fast like in Synaptic, so I decided to just use System Reset, but that failed. |
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| 14:34.47 | Ghostbird | @zykotick9: He checked the ISO, didn't see a 32-bit bootloader, and then didn't try to see whether it worked. I'm telling him to just try it anyway. |
| 14:35.14 | Snoob | why did you not just leave windows 10 if it was already installed? |
| 14:35.59 | calher | Snoob: Because the owner thought it was broken and slow because I installed XChat, Mumble, Geany, QupZilla... |
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| 14:36.14 | zykotick9 | Ghostbird: i don't think this "32bit bootloader" info is correct... perhaps it's not a 64bit cpu? |
| 14:36.50 | Snoob | how old was the laptop? |
| 14:37.00 | calher | Snoob: And I didn't feel like taking an hour to uninstall all that stuff by hand, one by one. If I'm going to uninstall lots of stuff, Windows needs to provide something like Synaptic. |
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| 14:37.14 | calher | Snoob: Came with Windows 10. Almost brand new. |
| 14:37.22 | Snoob | Then it wasnt slow. |
| 14:37.49 | Snoob | and it takes like 5 minutes to uninstall programs |
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| 14:38.32 | Ghostbird | zykotick9: It's based on this information, and so far seems to be correct. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1341944 |
| 14:38.38 | hrob2 | HI |
| 14:38.57 | calher | Snoob: But if there's 10 programs, and you have to go through a wizard to uninstall each one, it's painful. |
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| 14:39.10 | Snoob | its called windows. |
| 14:39.11 | hrob2 | can anyone give me a pointer on how I can grant access to /dev/input/event* using polkit? |
| 14:39.15 | Snoob | its painful sometimes. |
| 14:39.27 | hrob2 | I'm guessing I need to write some kind of config under /etc/polkit/# |
| 14:39.50 | calher | Snoob: I wish I could convince the owner of that. |
| 14:40.12 | hrob2 | Snoob: once you get the hang of thowing windows off the screen you start to like it |
| 14:40.17 | zykotick9 | Ghostbird: oh, the momement we bring UEFI into it... i'm out... i know nothin'... best of luck. |
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| 14:41.57 | Ghostbird | zykotick9: Thanks anyway! |
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| 14:42.36 | zykotick9 | Ghostbird: in my case it was NOT a UEFI based atom system... i have no idea what UEFI brings to the situation... |
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| 14:45.04 | SiIky | hey #debian! so im using raspbian (based on wheezy), but theres a specific version of a set of packages i want (haskell-platform) that arent available on the raspbian repos. after checking packages.debian.org i see the version i want is available on jessie-backports and stretch, also available for armhf, my question is: Is it safe to add the repo to my sources.list and install it? |
| 14:45.18 | SiIky | didnt think it was gonna be so big, sorry xP |
| 14:45.20 | jelly | SiIky: it's not safe, don't do that. |
| 14:45.48 | SiIky | jelly: is there a workaround? |
| 14:45.48 | jelly | (if it were safe, raspbian would not exist) |
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| 14:46.43 | jelly | SiIky: a workaround that doesn't involve building the software for your distro and arch? |
| 14:46.47 | jelly | nope |
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| 14:48.52 | SiIky | jelly: oh well... thanks anyways :) |
| 14:49.59 | Ghostbird | Silky You may want to check Raspbian Jessie repositories and see if it's in those. |
| 14:50.35 | Ghostbird | They you can upgrade your raspbian to Jessie if that would make them available. |
| 14:51.40 | SiIky | Ghostbird: that makes sense, didnt even think of checking for a newer version of raspbian... thx |
| 14:52.32 | jelly | the right place to ask is #raspbian |
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| 14:55.04 | sh00p | why not build haskell-platform from source SiIky? |
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| 14:55.53 | SiIky | sh00p: ive read it takes ages (~half a week) and needs loads of memory |
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| 14:56.09 | SiIky | so im kind of skeptical if i should really go through all that trouble |
| 14:56.51 | sh00p | maybe you can build it on some other machine |
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| 14:57.55 | wyre | hi guys! someone that uses Mathematica knows if there is a .deb to install it or something? |
| 14:59.10 | SiIky | sh00p: ive read its possible too, but since ive never done anything similar, im afraid of screwing something up |
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| 15:00.14 | sh00p | well SiIky why are you afraid to try? it's by trying we learn |
| 15:00.40 | sh00p | if it's as simple as ./configure and make I dont see why not |
| 15:00.50 | jelly | in any case, the right place to talk about crosscompiling software for raspbian is #raspbian channel again |
| 15:01.00 | sh00p | fair enough, nevermind |
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| 15:01.41 | SiIky | mainly because my internet is really slow, if id break anything and needed to install raspbian again, itd take hours just to download the image |
| 15:01.51 | SiIky | and i use my rpi for other stuff |
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| 15:14.34 | Ghostbird | SiIky: Well, you could cross-compile. It's more complex but allows you to use a more powerful computer. |
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| 16:18.24 | contrapunctus | I cannot seem to install StumpWM or autoconf. apt-get says 'Package stumpwm is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source' for both of them, but the online packages listing seems to indicate that they should be there :\ |
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| 16:22.46 | TinkerTiger | That seems really odd, especially for autoconf. |
| 16:24.40 | contrapunctus | aye |
| 16:26.28 | Snoob | did you try installing the other package? |
| 16:27.37 | ammar1 | contrapunctus: I got sid, both are there with `apt-cache search` |
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| 16:28.40 | contrapunctus | Snoob: the other package? |
| 16:29.01 | Snoob | You said stumpwm was refered by another package/ |
| 16:29.04 | contrapunctus | ammar1: isn't this the stable channel? |
| 16:29.14 | Snoob | did you look it and install that other package |
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| 16:30.24 | contrapunctus | Snoob: not 'I', but apt-get. It didn't point me to any other package. apt-cache search stumpwm doesn't return anything. |
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| 16:31.17 | moonpunter | First time installing Debian locally. Disk partitioning using whole disk 1 part is taking long time. This normal? On term4 it shows USB mouse connecting and disconnecting and nothing about parting... |
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| 16:33.30 | ammar1 | contrapunctus: I ran a stable version in docker, both are there as well. |
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| 16:35.27 | Snoob | moon how large is the drive? |
| 16:35.39 | moonpunter | 1tb |
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| 16:36.46 | Snoob | how long hasit been running? |
| 16:37.14 | moonpunter | More than 30 mins |
| 16:37.16 | markybob | moonpunter, if you're using encryption that's normal |
| 16:37.28 | moonpunter | Not |
| 16:37.40 | markybob | then something done fucked up |
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| 16:38.03 | Snoob | unless you have a old pc hooked to it . |
| 16:38.07 | contrapunctus | ammar1: how do I fix this? |
| 16:38.10 | moonpunter | Just start over then? |
| 16:38.13 | markybob | moonpunter, how did you burn the image? |
| 16:38.32 | moonpunter | Unetbootin with current ISP |
| 16:38.35 | moonpunter | O |
| 16:38.50 | markybob | !unetbootin |
| 16:38.50 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 16:38.52 | markybob | that explains it |
| 16:39.23 | moonpunter | I have other Ubuntu box |
| 16:39.34 | moonpunter | What should I use |
| 16:39.42 | Snoob | its better to boot a full cd/dvd image |
| 16:39.51 | Snoob | that is loaded to a usb drive. |
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| 16:39.51 | markybob | moonpunter, cp image /dev/sdx |
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| 16:40.21 | markybob | moonpunter, like the install guide suggests. |
| 16:40.38 | moonpunter | Image writes it properly? |
| 16:40.51 | markybob | moonpunter, yep |
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| 16:41.07 | moonpunter | Doing thahat |
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| 16:42.25 | ammar1 | contrapunctus: probably an issue in /etc/apt/sources.list*, please check those, then apt-get update. |
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| 16:43.21 | v0rt__ | hi |
| 16:44.20 | v0rt__ | I am using sid, and I want to install qemu 2.5, it is on sid pkgs (https://packages.debian.org/sid/qemu) how can I install it with apt-get? |
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| 16:45.00 | markybob | v0rt__, sid support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (not freenode) as per /topic |
| 16:45.13 | v0rt__ | ah, ok |
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| 17:10.47 | Caelum | Hi, is there a utility that can append piped input to a log file, and if the file is removed recreate it transparently? |
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| 17:17.55 | phogg | Caelum: Yes? Just redirecting in append mode will do that (>>), logger will effectively do that. What have you tried that's not working? |
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| 17:24.34 | Frogging101-chan | I have an interfaces file that looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/367569/ . At boot, the default route ends up being eth1. I want it to be eth0. How do I fix that? |
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| 17:32.45 | hexnewbie | Frogging101-chan: Why do you have gateways on both of your interfaces? |
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| 17:32.53 | Frogging101-chan | hexnewbie: Should I not? |
| 17:33.28 | hexnewbie | Frogging101-chan: Unless you plan to use both gateways to access the Internet and have the means to control which gateway is used, most likely not. |
| 17:33.38 | Frogging101-chan | Ahh I see |
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| 17:34.48 | Caelum | phogg: no >> does not recreate the file if it's deleted |
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| 17:35.18 | Caelum | phogg: and logger only writes to syslog? |
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| 17:35.43 | speckmade | can somebody pleaso confirm this error/typo in the wiki: |
| 17:35.43 | speckmade | in https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2#Configure_encrypted_.2Fboot.2F , /etc/defaults/grub should actually read /etc/default/grub - right? |
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| 17:38.29 | hexnewbie | Frogging101-chan: Also note that Linux accepts two gateways for the same network just fine (I've had setups where I had configured both wireless and wired, with lower metric for the wired one), but frontend utils tend to refuse to add them. |
| 17:39.01 | hexnewbie | I've given up trying to figure out which works and which doesn't. |
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| 17:41.22 | markybob | phogg, you can use a scrip to check if the file exists. if it does, append with >> if not, > to create a new one |
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| 18:07.05 | pythonsnake | hey |
| 18:07.24 | pythonsnake | is it possible for a proxy (nginx) to change to destination content? |
| 18:07.31 | hiya | hi |
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| 18:09.01 | markybob | pythonsnake, ask #nginx |
| 18:09.01 | poorrick | Extension glx missing on display. I can't find any solutions online that don't assume I'm using NVIDIA Opitmus. I'm using intel integrated graphics |
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| 18:12.58 | pythonsnake | ok thanks markybob |
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| 18:16.36 | DoctorD90 | hey guys. I would like to add at grub a menuentry to load an iso from an SD. Anyone may help me? |
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| 18:18.20 | namespc | So I'm upgrading from Wheezy te Jessie and wifi broke. |
| 18:18.23 | namespc | Ideas? |
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| 18:18.42 | centrx | namespc, Install latest firmware? |
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| 18:43.26 | gabrielsyme | I'm thinking of going full luks disc encryption for my next debian install. does this imply i will have to login with my password twice on boot? (decrypt + user login) |
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| 18:44.09 | afk11 | gabrielsyme, they're different passwords. One for LUKS, and your user password is separate |
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| 18:44.11 | speckmade | depends. |
| 18:44.20 | speckmade | you can do autologin |
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| 18:44.49 | afk11 | you could also be doing home ecryptfs.. |
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| 18:45.54 | speckmade | or even encrypt /boot : https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2#Configure_encrypted_.2Fboot ;-) |
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| 18:47.22 | afk11 | :O straightforward instructions! |
| 18:47.38 | afk11 | kept finding arch specific guides.. |
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| 18:49.05 | afk11 | Found this before: http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/ which tries to avoid having two passwords |
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| 18:50.41 | hexnewbie | What are the benefits of encrypting /boot? |
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| 18:51.31 | jelly | more work for the evil maid |
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| 18:52.36 | hexnewbie | Could be less work, since she has to opportunities to snoop on your password when you boot :) |
| 18:52.51 | afk11 | hexnewbie: you can use smartcards as well |
| 18:52.52 | hexnewbie | s/to/two/ |
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| 18:53.04 | HeavenSucks | I've removed /usr/bin/nodejs |
| 18:53.10 | HeavenSucks | how can I recover that? |
| 18:53.39 | hexnewbie | HeavenSucks: aptitude reinstall? |
| 18:53.59 | HeavenSucks | hexnewbie: thanks |
| 18:54.00 | tty0_ | Hi there, I am trying to install Jessie (using the official Jessie installer: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/armhf/) on beaglebone black. The installation process completed, but it seems that the boot loader (uboot) was not installed on the internal flash. And now i can not boot the system. How can i fix this? |
| 18:54.22 | HeavenSucks | and one more question, what package manager should I use? |
| 18:54.32 | HeavenSucks | apt apt-get aptitude? |
| 18:55.11 | hexnewbie | HeavenSucks: The other two also have a variant of reinstall, though arguments may be different (haven't used apt) |
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| 18:57.09 | speckmade | afk11: maybe i'd nevertheless prefer the arch guides because they are much more detailed. |
| 18:57.26 | lili | Hello. My current debian installation is using the "unstable" version, and there were some critical bugs in some of the packages, and stuff is starting to break. |
| 18:57.41 | blind | blinks |
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| 18:58.02 | lili | I'd like to reinstall the stable packages. I've went into the /etc/apt/preferences and changed the pin priority so that the stable version is 800. |
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| 18:58.23 | jelly | lili: that's going to be very hard to achieve |
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| 18:58.30 | lili | After changing that, I used `sudo apt-get update`. |
| 18:58.40 | lili | It's going to be hard? |
| 18:59.21 | lili | Well I don't really care about installing everything from the stable release. As long as I can reinstall some or a couple packages, that's fine. |
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| 19:00.00 | hexnewbie | lili: Downgrades are generally unsupported and painful in Debian, and upgrades of that magnitude may be too mcuh to ask. Especially down to stable (testing may be more achievable - as if you wait, the downgrade can consist of upgraded packages only, but still a fresh install may be easier than attempting to downgrade) |
| 19:00.08 | towo` | downgrades are not supported in debian |
| 19:00.08 | jelly | lili: yes, you'll probably have an easier time making a backup of your data, saving the list of manually installed packages (/msg dpkg aptitude clone) and reinstall stable |
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| 19:00.27 | lili | Uh... |
| 19:00.33 | lili | Oh. |
| 19:00.45 | jelly | at this moment in time mixing unstable with stable is going to be a right pain |
| 19:01.25 | lili | Oh I see. |
| 19:02.00 | jelly | lili: you can certainly _try_ to do a partial downgrade but if it just breaks further, you get to keep all the pieces |
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| 19:02.22 | lili | I see. |
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| 19:03.06 | lili | I've always wondered if there was an easier way of restoring the system... |
| 19:03.19 | lili | Sorta like Time Machine for OS X. |
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| 19:04.35 | jelly | those are called "backups" and "restores" |
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| 19:05.38 | jelly | don't know of a stable and user-friendly one, I just use one of the rsync wrappers. |
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| 19:06.38 | lili | You use rsync wrappers for system files/ |
| 19:06.39 | lili | ? |
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| 19:07.10 | jelly | yes |
| 19:07.38 | jelly | just backup all the mountpoints |
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| 19:08.11 | jelly | including / and /var |
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| 19:16.29 | hexnewbie | lili: Technically, there are a couple of filesystems that allow you to do full snapshots of everything, including the root, which means very immediate restores (rollbacks). Unfortunately, btrfs is still not completely reliable, ZFS is not native and is very fussy, I don't know how NILFS is going, and unless you're CERN cephfs is probably an overkill. The manual rsync (+friends) approach is slower, but gives you more or less the same (but requires more |
| 19:16.30 | hexnewbie | space). |
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| 19:24.46 | ewew | Hi. Is it worth it to report a bug on vlock if pam modules other are set to deny ? Thank you. |
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| 19:25.05 | ewew | and missing vlock pam file ? |
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| 19:26.00 | lili | Okie dokie. Thanks for the help jelly and hexnewbie. |
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| 19:28.38 | jelly | thankfully one can buy an external 3TB drive for $130 these days which makes simple, naive rsync backups (like with rsnapshot, or dirvish or some other rsync wrapper) very practical even if they take 5-10 times disk space compared to original |
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| 19:31.53 | hexnewbie | rsnapshot does hardlinks? The hardlink approach gives me backups that are not more than 50% larger than original, and even less. Unless I have VM images, but there are ways to avoid that (sending FS snapshots on btrfs/zfs is one way, splitting them over many files is another) |
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| 19:39.15 | hexnewbie | Oh, and you don't need to use the fancy filesystem on both sides. The backup can be on an FS with snapshots (even LVM with snapshots), rsync --inplace (which conflicts with hardlinks, but not cp --reflink) will guarantee that only the changed parts of the VM images are copied. |
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| 19:44.55 | narcos | Hi all. When specifying the nat table with iptables I get the error: "iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)". lsmod doesn't list anything to do with iptables. I tried "modprobe ip_tables", but it doesn't add to the modules list output |
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| 19:46.43 | hexnewbie | narcos: modprobe xt_nat nf_nat_ipv4 # should happen automatically, though |
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| 19:47.13 | narcos | hexnewbie: modprobe: FATAL: Module xt_nat not found. |
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| 19:47.31 | hexnewbie | narcos: Which kernel / kernel package are you using? |
| 19:47.53 | narcos | hexnewbie: uname -a gives "Linux chip 4.2.0-rc1 #1 SMP Thu Jan 14 23:07:35 UTC 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux" |
| 19:48.01 | narcos | It's a small ARM computer |
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| 19:50.20 | hexnewbie | narcos: That's not a Debian kernel. Whoever compiled it, didn't include nat. |
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| 19:50.26 | little | Hey |
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| 19:50.43 | little | The download links for the i386 architecture are 404ing |
| 19:50.48 | phorce1_home | won't get his CHIP for a couple more months |
| 19:51.12 | narcos | hexnewbie: Hmm, /etc/issue gives "Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l" |
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| 19:51.21 | narcos | I'll see if I can rebuild the kernel |
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| 19:54.47 | hexnewbie | little: Switch mirrors and run apt-get update? :) |
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| 19:57.21 | ewew | How is it possible to have corrupted output in pdf when using auto line wrap in text editor ? |
| 19:58.20 | ewew | Thank you for any help- |
| 19:58.22 | ewew | . |
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| 19:58.40 | seirem | hi |
| 19:58.59 | hexnewbie | ewew: PDF files are binary, so there are more ways they can be corrupted than line wrap (charset re-encoding comes to mind) |
| 19:59.35 | ewew | no. just sentences are cut and so. |
| 20:00.00 | ewew | the text file is ok. only gen pdf is bad. |
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| 20:01.41 | askhl_ | Hello. I have a network printer and I know hostname/ip and everything exactly. But the printer addition tool refuses to add it. It suggests another printer with a different ip. I cannot tell it to use the ip I want it to use. Any help please? |
| 20:01.46 | hexnewbie | ewew: Then you have to give more information, it's not clear what you're talking about :) |
| 20:01.54 | FourFire | Hello all, running 8.2 with backported 4.3.0 kernel |
| 20:02.08 | FourFire | Just installed nvidia gpu driver with some difficulty |
| 20:02.21 | FourFire | and now my display manager doesn't seem to be working |
| 20:02.28 | FourFire | what steps can i take to fix this? |
| 20:03.07 | ewew | hexnewbie The text is typed to use autowrap. That means i dont use 80 characters and enter. |
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| 20:03.18 | askhl_ | Maybe I can just edit some config file to write the correct printer ip? (Not minding the relative brokenness of the printer specification application in GNOME) |
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| 20:03.45 | hexnewbie | ewew: Since text files are not PDF files, you're omitting half of the story here. |
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| 20:04.15 | ewew | hexnewbie Im just checking how it will look when printing. |
| 20:04.25 | ewew | and it creates a pdf. |
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| 20:06.14 | hexnewbie | ewew: Which program are you printing with, and did you try another one? Are you using some option to wrap the lines during printing, during display, or are you adding wrap to the file itself? |
| 20:06.59 | ewew | hexnewbie Leafpad is the source and using print preview. In leafpad Word wrap. |
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| 20:09.08 | hexnewbie | ewew: Which leafpad version? I don't have that problem in the print preview of Leafpad 0.8.18.1. And line wrap option is completely ignored - printing seems to always wrap (as it should) |
| 20:09.51 | ewew | hexnewbie debian jessie version. the file has 16 pages of text. |
| 20:10.05 | ewew | size 41,6 kB |
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| 20:10.50 | ewew | mousepad generates only six pages of the file. |
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| 20:11.14 | ewew | i suspect a code error in parsing algorithm. |
| 20:11.56 | hexnewbie | ewew: Maybe the file has weird control characters inside? My file is 0.5 MB, and I have no such problem. |
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| 20:13.17 | ewew | hexnewbie any fast way to check it. The file was created on previous debian release. |
| 20:13.51 | LinuxGuy2020 | I have the mate desktop installed and I'm wondering what package I need in order to get the common printer GUI that other mate based distros have. |
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| 20:14.03 | TomTomTosch | askhl_: try using cups. |
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| 20:14.21 | hexnewbie | askhl_: Try https://localhost:631/ and configure from there |
| 20:14.56 | askhl_ | TomTomTosch, hexnewbie: I saw now that I can edit the ip address in system-config-printer directly. |
| 20:16.10 | LinuxGuy2020 | system-config-printer got it |
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| 20:16.48 | ewew | hexnewbie To cross-check i will try some doc file from some package. |
| 20:17.09 | askhl_ | TomTomTosch, hexnewbie: I managed to get it to work. Thanks! |
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| 20:19.57 | ewew | hexnewbie Well. It looks like the algorithm does not count with the way i have the file writen. :-( |
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| 20:42.39 | numberformat | Any one have experience with using skylake architecture with Debian 8.2? I have a gigabyte Z170 HD3 motherboard. |
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| 20:44.58 | msg | hi all |
| 20:45.09 | sampletext | hi guys, i keep having network instability and i tried doing some troubleshooting to figure out the issue and did a dmesg for my ethernet driver: http://pastebin.com/RWGPcjty |
| 20:45.12 | msg | I have a .sh script with 100 commands in it |
| 20:45.17 | Guest85399 | I also have 10 processors |
| 20:45.41 | sampletext | persistent eth0: link up |
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| 20:45.43 | Guest85399 | How do i parrallelize this execution with 10 processors (10 lines each) without spliting the .sh file up and executing it 10 times? :P |
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| 20:46.42 | simonlnu | cpuaffinity |
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| 20:53.29 | K-202 | Hi. How to check if I'm running normal or safe mode? This time I could see startup info (like on sysVinit), UI responses more quickly, sound quality better... |
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| 21:12.12 | ewew | hexnewbie What do you recommend to do with it ? |
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| 21:17.32 | Talltree | do you guys know of a socks5 server with a auth module, multiuser and the ability to limit the ports a user can use to connect to? |
| 21:18.13 | Talltree | or target ip/domain would suffice too |
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| 21:21.13 | LambdaComplex | So, Debian won't boot for me without nomodeset...but nouveau doesn't work with nomodeset |
| 21:21.40 | LambdaComplex | And installing nvidia-driver from jessie-backports didn't seem to actually activate it, because mesa (I guess) is getting used |
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| 21:22.29 | little | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 21:22.31 | little | 404 |
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| 21:23.57 | cra1g321 | little , http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.3.0/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 21:24.05 | cra1g321 | debian is at 8.3 now :) |
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| 21:26.28 | little | Should probably update the links on the page, then :) |
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| 21:37.33 | H4ndy | I just downloaded 8.2.0 a few hours ago .__. |
| 21:38.21 | cra1g321 | H4ndy that's fine, its only a "point release" |
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| 21:38.33 | cra1g321 | update your debian install as normal and you will be on 8.3 |
| 21:38.44 | H4ndy | yeah but had to burn it on disc and now its old already ^^ |
| 21:39.11 | cra1g321 | 8.3 came out yesterday and i think it was only 30 new packages or so |
| 21:39.27 | cra1g321 | well for me anyway |
| 21:41.34 | H4ndy | oh well it was netinst anyway, probably not much lost |
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| 21:42.46 | pythonsnake | what is a nice server provider for about 10-20 bucks or euros per month? |
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| 21:43.55 | cypher_ | digitalocean |
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| 21:45.12 | Tom01 | How can I edit PDF-Files. Is there an App? |
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| 21:47.09 | Guest55918 | Tom01: https://wiki.debian.org/PDF |
| 21:47.57 | Tom01 | Guest55918: thx |
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| 21:56.43 | a12345 | hello, is there a linux application where I can search all the pdf in the folder for a particular word(s)? I have used pdfgrep in the past but it can be rather clunky at times. Acroread used to have this capability but it is no longer supported. |
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| 22:01.03 | markybob | a12345, please don't crosspost. against channel policy |
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| 22:02.10 | zmitya | hi Guys... |
| 22:02.25 | zmitya | I would like to allow mod_rewrite for a customer (via htaccess) |
| 22:02.30 | zmitya | I have this: |
| 22:02.33 | zmitya | http://pastebin.com/j0pvPex5 |
| 22:02.53 | zmitya | mod_rewrite is loaded, but does not work.. What did I miss ? |
| 22:03.12 | markybob | zmitya, you'd probably have better luck asking the apache folks at #httpd |
| 22:03.25 | zmitya | ok |
| 22:03.28 | a12345 | markybob, sorry. |
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| 22:06.35 | v0r0nwe | hey guys, is anyone using vimb (a lightweight, vim-like webbrowser)? |
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| 22:08.12 | nname31 | hello, i want boot dvd in lenovo g50-30 boot output "no bootable devince"?? need help |
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| 22:09.31 | v0r0nwe | nname31: how did you create the boot dvd? |
| 22:09.48 | nname31 | yes |
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| 22:10.20 | v0r0nwe | _how_ |
| 22:10.21 | nname31 | debian 8.2 dvd1, in other laptop boot this dvd |
| 22:10.48 | nname31 | but in lenovo g50-30 can not boot |
| 22:11.14 | v0r0nwe | ok, so it's an issue with your laptop. did you check your bios boot settings? |
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| 22:11.32 | nname31 | config uefi to legal and select other os |
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| 22:11.49 | nname31 | but nothing |
| 22:11.53 | nname31 | :( |
| 22:12.15 | v0r0nwe | i meant the laptop bios, did you set the boot devices properly? |
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| 22:12.46 | v0r0nwe | (maybe your laptop looks for usb, and because you have no usb stick, it says "no boot device") |
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| 22:15.17 | nname31 | i select dvd from fn+f12(boot menu) but againt nothing |
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| 22:25.42 | lf94_ | Hey, how difficult would it be to get these packages in Debian Jessie? |
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| 22:25.52 | lf94_ | Xorg/Xserver 6.9 and above (up to 1.13), Linux kernel 2.6 or above (up to 3.5), glibc version 2.2 or 2.3 |
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| 22:26.14 | towo` | what are you talking about? |
| 22:26.18 | markybob | haha |
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| 22:26.36 | towo` | you can't install such old glibc in jessie |
| 22:26.49 | lf94_ | That would totally break it, eh |
| 22:27.38 | tremon | isn't glibc 2.2 still of the kernel 2.4 era? |
| 22:27.39 | markybob | lf94_, this is all pretty ridiculous. kernel 2.6? really? how'd you come up with this? |
| 22:27.43 | lf94_ | Maybe something like Nix/Guix would be good for this |
| 22:28.06 | markybob | i feel like i'm being punk'd |
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| 22:28.13 | lf94_ | Ideally I would want Xorg/server 1.13, Kernel 3.5, glibc 2.3 |
| 22:28.21 | lf94_ | It's for the AMD Catalyst driver guys. |
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| 22:28.32 | lf94_ | I have an old card in this laptop. |
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| 22:28.41 | tremon | oh just don't |
| 22:28.51 | lf94_ | Alright, we'll stop this here...heh |
| 22:28.54 | tremon | use the free drivers please :) |
| 22:29.06 | lf94_ | Well, that's what I've been using for 3 years :) |
| 22:29.14 | tremon | your obviously not using that card for its 3d performance :) |
| 22:29.22 | lf94_ | I try :p |
| 22:29.22 | aksn | Hi all. I change the gateway of eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, I run service networking restart, but route command still shows the same gateway. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 22:29.48 | lf94_ | tremon: I can only play games at their absolute worst settings, which I've been putting up with. Kind of sick of it though...! |
| 22:29.58 | Snoob | Get a new laptop |
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| 22:30.25 | lf94_ | Why should I, when I get the performance I want? |
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| 22:33.20 | tremon | glibc 2.2 was released in 2000, glibc 2.3 in 2002 |
| 22:33.51 | Snoob | Is playing the game at the worse settings the performance you want? |
| 22:33.52 | tremon | glibc 2.2 even predates linux 2.4.0, which was released in 2001 |
| 22:34.02 | markybob | kernel 2.6 2003 |
| 22:34.25 | markybob | this can't be serious |
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| 22:34.50 | Snoob | What game are you trying to play? |
| 22:34.58 | Snoob | wait. |
| 22:35.20 | tremon | lf94_: if you need that old software, please pick a suitable release from archive.debian.org. Don't try to shoehorn a current Debian release into it :) |
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| 22:39.44 | Twinkletoes | Hello folks, slightly OT here, but all of a sudden my DNS servers (running on Virtualmin) are not visible any more in the DNS system. I set the GLUE records with my registrar (monster.co.uk) but nothing can reach them via DNS any more. Does anybody have experience of GLUE records who could help me? |
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| 22:44.23 | tremon | Twinkletoes: I think there's a #networking channel more suited for that question |
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| 22:45.28 | Twinkletoes | tremon: Thanks ;) |
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| 22:51.19 | tremon | lf94_: I don't think you'll find that exact combination anywhere. The first Debian release to feature a 3.x Linux kernel was Wheezy (in 2013, kernel 3.2). It featured glibc 2.13 and X.org 7.7 |
| 22:53.13 | tremon | I can't easily find the glibc versions of earlier Debian releases, but it is likely that the last Debian release featuring a glibc 2.3 release was 3.1 (from 2005, Sarge) |
| 22:53.45 | tremon | Sarge shipped with kernel 2.4.27 |
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| 23:14.16 | theblackbox | Hello all, I've just got a fresh install of Jessie and I'm trying to install the NVIDIA drivers. What is the best approach? |
| 23:14.31 | theblackbox | The .run seems to fail - thinking there has been a previous install (I ran it once and it failed due to x-server running). And there is a clear message saying "Please use the debian packages..." |
| 23:14.46 | theblackbox | I tried that and I managed to fubar my system due to some dependency conflicts while installing ligl1 |
| 23:14.56 | cra1g321 | theblackbox, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 23:16.01 | cra1g321 | theblackbox, what nvidia card do you have ? |
| 23:16.11 | theblackbox | which would be the .run, right? |
| 23:16.17 | theblackbox | it's a GTX 950 |
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| 23:16.52 | theblackbox | the attempted .run was the 352.63 that the NVidia downloads suggest |
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| 23:17.26 | theblackbox | in all other respects I've followed that wiki to the letter |
| 23:17.49 | theblackbox | so, does it _have_ to be the .52 release? |
| 23:18.08 | theblackbox | and if so, why does it tell me to use the Depian Packages? |
| 23:18.16 | cra1g321 | Version 340.65 is the recommended packages to use, but they don't support your card |
| 23:18.20 | theblackbox | (in the output of the .run) |
| 23:18.41 | cra1g321 | so you could try the "Version 352.55 64bit (SteamOS repository)" instructions |
| 23:19.01 | nkuttler | theblackbox: installing upstream drivers is neither recommended nor supported |
| 23:19.16 | cra1g321 | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_352.55_64bit_.28SteamOS_repository.29 |
| 23:19.28 | cra1g321 | wishes he had a 950 :P |
| 23:19.37 | nkuttler | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 23:19.39 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-proposed-updates/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.96-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.96-4; sid/non-free: 352.63-2 |
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| 23:50.10 | cra1g321 | anyone know if it would be possible to have a offline copy of the debian wiki pages ? |
| 23:51.02 | beepie | cra1g321, /usr/share/doc/initscripts/examples :p |
| 23:51.43 | beepie | says /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples !!!!! for interfaces :) |
| 23:52.57 | cra1g321 | beepie, i dont see how examples and the wiki are the same :/ |
| 23:53.25 | beepie | cra1g321, nope.. but i assume here you'd be wondering where you can find networking documentation offline :p |
| 23:53.34 | cra1g321 | oh lol |
| 23:53.51 | cra1g321 | no not really tbh, just would like to hoard the wiki, i guess :P |
| 23:54.59 | cra1g321 | just be able to view it all while being offline |
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| 23:55.16 | cra1g321 | though i've no clue what size it is |
| 23:55.19 | beepie | use a browser plugin |
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| 23:55.46 | beepie | here i wouldn't mind suggesting using zotero -- it's got a standalone application that can clone webpages |
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