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| 00:04.00 | aardvark | After reboot with backported kernel and intel-microcode installed still same problem: Graphical login not visible - builtin laptop screen is pitch black, connected external monitor show gray gdm-background |
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| 00:06.53 | aardvark | Perhaps the following information helps: Running xrandr I can see that my builtin laptop screen is called "eDP1". After login by typing in the dark, the builtin latop monitor stays pitch dark. If I run "xrandr --output eDP1 --auto --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0" it stays dark. |
| 00:07.25 | aardvark | If I run the same command with a different screen solution it goes on: "xrandr --output eDP1 --auto --mode 1400x1050 --pos 0x0" |
| 00:07.49 | jeep | aardvark: what video card do you have ? |
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| 00:08.11 | aardvark | If I then again run the first xrandr command with the 1920x1080 screen solution then the builtin laptop monitor is on with the correct solution |
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| 00:10.45 | aardvark | jeep: If I run "lspci -v" I can see 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]). Not sure if this is my video card. My graphics card is the Intel HD 4400 Graphics shared |
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| 00:12.25 | aardvark | just learned that a video card is the same thing as a graphics card. |
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| 00:15.30 | aardvark | Is it perhaps possible that I could be executed two xrandr commands before the login screen appears? That way I could turn on my builtin laptop screen and see the normal logon screen. |
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| 00:26.05 | jeep | aardvark: you can add the command to rc.local |
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| 00:27.39 | markybob | aardvark, by that he means /etc/rc.local, not /etc/init.d/rc.local, fyi. and i came in late so i don't know what you're talking about but that's useful info to know :P |
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| 00:28.16 | jeep | aardvark: is that one of the dual video setups ? |
| 00:29.18 | babilen | aardvark: yes, and I really wouldn't tinker with adding commands to rc.local, but writee suitable sections to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
| 00:29.19 | jeep | he might have one of those bumblebee video setups |
| 00:29.25 | aardvark | markybob: Thanks for clarification. I have the problem that when I boot with a connected external monitor, I cannot see a normal login screen. My builtin laptop screen is pitch dark, my external monitor shows just a gray background (the background color from the login screen). So I dont see my username nor a password field. |
| 00:29.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell aardvark -about xorg.conf.d |
| 00:30.01 | aardvark | jeep: It is a laptop with a connected external monitor. I just want to use the external monitor. |
| 00:30.22 | jim | tall mee bout that tooo! |
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| 00:32.04 | babilen | aardvark: so, what happens with the new kernel? |
| 00:32.08 | aardvark | My idea now is if I write xrandr commands to an empty xorg.conf file (as mentioned by babilen), I will see a normal login screen. |
| 00:32.13 | aardvark | babilen: No changes. |
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| 00:33.32 | jim | aardvark, you say it happens when you boot with ext monitor connected? what happens when you boot without that connection? |
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| 00:34.14 | aardvark | jim: If I boot without connected external monitor the builtin laptop screen works fine - it shows the normal login screen with my username and a password field. |
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| 00:34.31 | Catwiesel | good evening |
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| 00:34.50 | jim | aardvark, so then you can log in and all is good? |
| 00:35.08 | aardvark | yes. If no external monitor is connected I have no problems. |
| 00:35.27 | jim | ok, thanks for clarifying that |
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| 00:35.43 | babilen | aardvark: No, you would write a proper Xorg.conf as detailed in "man 5 xorg.conf" and "man 5 xorg.conf.d" |
| 00:35.49 | Catwiesel | could use a little help. why does typing as root: su user -c "/path/to/script/script.sh parameter" work |
| 00:35.57 | Catwiesel | and having it in an init.d script not work |
| 00:36.48 | Catwiesel | bash: /path/to/script/script.sh file or directory not found |
| 00:36.57 | babilen | aardvark: Screen and serverlayout sections in particular |
| 00:37.42 | aardvark | babilen: Ok. I will read through all of that and see if I can get this configured. |
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| 00:41.18 | babilen | aardvark: It might very well be that you need a newer Xorg version for your card to work perfectly .. it is a weird issue that I haven't encountered. Getting a new Xorg is tricky on jessie as you would essentially have to upgrade to a, yet unlreleased version. If you can burn that installation it might be worth a try, but see how far you get with configuration. |
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| 00:41.37 | babilen | (stretch/testing is the name of that and the configuration would be -- "/msg dpkg tum") |
| 00:42.27 | aardvark | babilen: Not sure if you got the message that I did say something wrong: I do not have a Nvidia card. I only have the Intel HD Graphics 4400 HD shared. |
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| 00:43.59 | aardvark | babilen: So I think I probably will not need a really new Xorg version, or? |
| 00:44.55 | davmillar | That awesome feel when package upgrades result in freed disk space :3 |
| 00:45.28 | babilen | aardvark: i am aware of that fact |
| 00:45.45 | babilen | judd: v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 00:45.46 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2; sid: 2:2.99.917+git20160127-1+b1 |
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| 00:45.59 | aardvark | I think the solution to my problem lies in the fact that when after logging in I run "xrandr --output eDP1 --auto --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0" the builtin laptop screen stays black and does not turn on. |
| 00:46.01 | babilen | aardvark: You might need a newer version of ^^ but then you might now |
| 00:46.20 | aardvark | When running the same command with a different resolution it goes on. |
| 00:46.31 | babilen | There is one in jessie-backports, so you could try that along with the newer kernel |
| 00:46.48 | babilen | aardvark: (apt-get -t jessie-backports install xserver-xorg) |
| 00:47.09 | aardvark | babilen: Ok, I will install it and report back. |
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| 00:48.31 | chele | inspect xorg.0.log. |
| 00:48.51 | aardvark | babilen: It didn't install anything, I seem to have already the latest version. |
| 00:49.09 | babilen | aardvark: What does "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg" give you? |
| 00:49.19 | markybob | babilen, aardvark that's not in backports |
| 00:49.39 | markybob | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=jessie-backports |
| 00:49.47 | babilen | aardvark: Ah, it is "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" -- I assumed the metapackage is in there) |
| 00:50.18 | babilen | but I'm off now .. take a look at your Xorg.0.log as well, it might reveal what is going on also |
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| 00:52.23 | aardvark | http://paste.debian.net/377714/ |
| 00:53.12 | jim | is that the log? |
| 00:53.29 | aardvark | jim: Yes, that is Xorg.0.log |
| 00:54.06 | jim | I see you're running the 4.3.0 backported kernel |
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| 00:54.27 | aardvark | jim: eDP1 is my laptop builtin screen, HDMI1 is my external monitor. |
| 00:54.48 | aardvark | jim: yes, babilen told me to install it. But before I had normal kernel, same issue. |
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| 00:56.13 | jim | in case you want to go back n forth, you probably can, probably both kernels are there |
| 00:56.58 | babilen | They would be, yeah |
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| 00:59.14 | jim | right, my pt was that, and, differently versioned kernel packages don't replace installed kernels that aren't the same version... if you look in /boot, you'll see some versioned files (like the initrds and the vmlinuz images) |
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| 00:59.37 | aardvark | jim: Ok, good to know. |
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| 01:00.28 | aardvark | Lines 260 and 261 of the log (http://paste.debian.net/377714/) show that Xorg detects both monitors correctly and should use them. However it doesnt. |
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| 01:00.45 | aardvark | I does not use the laptop builtin one eDP1 - this one just stays black |
| 01:00.53 | aardvark | It |
| 01:01.51 | jim | corrolary of that, if you find /boot getting overfull and you want to empty it a little, you can uninstall packages of the older kernels... you can find out which ones are installed using dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image |
| 01:02.30 | jim | (probably shouldn't use rm on files that were put there by packages) |
| 01:03.30 | aardvark | jim: Yes, I did that once on another computer once cause the separate /boot partition with 250 MB was full. |
| 01:04.36 | jim | how much to allocate for /boot differs as per purpose, as does whether to have /boot separate from / |
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| 01:05.23 | jim | if you like to experiment with kernels, you'll want more in /boot; if it's a server, -maybe- you want less |
| 01:06.21 | aardvark | Is it possible in Xorg.conf to specify that if two screens are connected to just use one specific one? Else if just one screen is connected use that one? |
| 01:06.28 | jim | and, if you like to experiment with installation and ALSO keep personal files in your home dir, you probably want a separate /home |
| 01:06.53 | jim | I don't know the answer for sure |
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| 01:28.10 | Catwiesel | any idea why running su user -c /path/to/script.sh works from cli but not from init.d script? |
| 01:29.21 | markybob | Catwiesel, without looking at it i'd guess because init.d would use dash and the other would use bash |
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| 01:29.54 | themill | Catwiesel: in what way does it not work? (what's the error message?) |
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| 01:35.12 | Catwiesel | markybob and themill: i get the error: bash: /path/to/file/script.sh: file or directory not found |
| 01:35.31 | Catwiesel | (my debian is german, its literally Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) |
| 01:35.44 | themill | what is /path/to/file? is it on a filesystem that isn't mounted yet? |
| 01:35.49 | markybob | Catwiesel, what happens if you get rid of the init scrip tand add /path/to/file/script.sh to etc/rc.local? |
| 01:36.14 | Catwiesel | its the same filesystem (ext4 / ) |
| 01:36.26 | jim | Catwiesel, also sometimes you can get english if you preceed commands with LANG=c (on the same line) |
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| 01:38.30 | Horny_Guy | Hey |
| 01:38.31 | jim | Catwiesel, is there a reason for not sharing specific information here (such as the correct path to, and name of, the script)? |
| 01:38.52 | Catwiesel | no i can give the information |
| 01:39.03 | Catwiesel | created user "teamviewer" |
| 01:39.06 | Catwiesel | ah sorry |
| 01:39.08 | Catwiesel | "teamspeak" |
| 01:39.19 | Catwiesel | su teamspeak -c "/home/teamspeak/teamspeak3-server_linux_amd64/ts3server_startscript.sh start" |
| 01:39.20 | Catwiesel | works |
| 01:39.45 | jim | just saying, the more info you give, the higher quality and faster results are likely to be |
| 01:39.59 | Catwiesel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.08 | Catwiesel | gives error: bash: /home/teamspeak/teamspeak3-server_linux-amd64/ts3server_startscript.sh: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden |
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| 01:40.47 | themill | Catwiesel: - vs _ |
| 01:41.05 | Catwiesel | HOLY SH* |
| 01:41.16 | themill | dpkg, comfort Catwiesel |
| 01:41.16 | dpkg | There, there, Catwiesel. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 01:41.56 | Catwiesel | ive checked that path 5 times at least |
| 01:42.02 | jim | thanks, this will help everyone to keep their composure (the people who help here get this all day, every day, some of them for years and years) |
| 01:42.20 | Catwiesel | testing |
| 01:42.49 | Catwiesel | works |
| 01:42.57 | Catwiesel | man im an idiot |
| 01:43.02 | Catwiesel | guys, thanks |
| 01:43.03 | themill | fresh pair of eyes always helps |
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| 01:44.23 | jim | Catwiesel, what turned out to be the problem? |
| 01:44.40 | Catwiesel | ive checked and googled and just diddnt get why it wouldnt work when (I was certain) the file exists and checked permissions and... |
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| 01:44.54 | Catwiesel | jim: the path in the init.d script was wrong |
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| 01:45.03 | Catwiesel | - instead _ |
| 01:45.03 | Not_Jason | Hey |
| 01:45.06 | jim | ahh |
| 01:45.25 | mrdeb | hi |
| 01:45.33 | mrdeb | who knows how to set up during install for ssd |
| 01:45.41 | mrdeb | i mean, do uou have to do discard in /etc/fstab or what |
| 01:45.43 | mrdeb | is that it |
| 01:45.46 | Not_Jason | Dang, a lot of people are online here |
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| 01:46.03 | Not_Jason | Do they all talk? |
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| 01:46.20 | markybob | mrdeb, you do nothing. ssd works just like a normal hard drive |
| 01:46.24 | jim | all at the same time, yes... it looks like a party |
| 01:46.53 | Not_Jason | Right now, its like barely any are talking |
| 01:47.13 | mrdeb | markybob: that is wrong |
| 01:47.19 | mrdeb | markybob: it must be set up proper |
| 01:47.24 | markybob | mrdeb, not it is not wrong |
| 01:47.27 | mrdeb | yes it |
| 01:47.35 | mrdeb | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives |
| 01:47.35 | markybob | i don't know what's wrong with people today. i give up |
| 01:47.41 | mrdeb | ok, who knows more? |
| 01:47.52 | mrdeb | please help. thank u |
| 01:47.55 | Not_Jason | Why cant I c the other ppl chatting??? |
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| 01:47.58 | jim | I know less... |
| 01:48.21 | markybob | Not_Jason, chatting is in #debian-offtopic. not here. this is support only |
| 01:48.27 | themill | mrdeb: if the device supports discard, then adding at as a mount option is a good idea |
| 01:48.43 | Catwiesel | while I am here and got help, let me express my gratitude for the debian community for creating excellent guides and even help via irc. |
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| 01:48.55 | mrdeb | so use discard on fstab? |
| 01:49.00 | mrdeb | ubutnu say you dont have to |
| 01:49.01 | Not_Jason | Whats the channel name for the main chat service? |
| 01:49.03 | A1maff | Ù
رØبا |
| 01:49.13 | advrex | Hey, I'm trying to setup pam mount to automount a home directory over sshfs on user login- can't get it to work, I've turned debug = 1 on in the xml file (/etc/security/pam_mount..) but I'm not seeing much in syslog or auth.log - is there somewhere else I should look? |
| 01:49.14 | mrdeb | A1maff: r u arabic? |
| 01:49.17 | A1maff | Ø£Øتاج Ø¥ÙÙ Ù
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| 01:49.27 | mrdeb | >:O |
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| 01:49.38 | advrex | And is there any uptodate official configuration or manual page for pam mount & sshfs? Cant seem to find one :/ |
| 01:50.03 | Not_Jason | Anyone know the main chat channal name? |
| 01:50.06 | Catwiesel | I imagine SSD work out of the box and dont NEED special treatment during or post install. but to use them optimally, there are certain steps to take |
| 01:50.12 | A1maff | r u ØØ |
| 01:50.16 | themill | !ar |
| 01:50.16 | dpkg | i guess ar is a program packaged in binutils to create, modify, and extract from archives (man ar), or argentina, or #debian-ar on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:50.20 | themill | !arabi |
| 01:50.23 | themill | !arabic |
| 01:50.23 | jim | mrdeb, probably ubuntu says a lot of things, some right, some wrong, most don't apply to debian in any way |
| 01:50.24 | markybob | Not_Jason, main support channel is #debian on irc.oftc.net. for offtopic it's #debian-next |
| 01:50.24 | themill | ffs |
| 01:50.30 | karlpinc | !ir |
| 01:50.31 | dpkg | IrDA is an infrared wireless communication standard. To use on Debian systems: enable infrared in BIOS (if built-in), install the irda-utils package (its init script starts irattach by default), enable infrared on the other device, "cat /proc/net/irda/discovery" / irdadump to test. To provide /dev/ircomm* devices, "modprobe ircomm-tty". See also irda-utils' README.Debian. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/ Not for CIR, see <lirc>. |
| 01:50.37 | markybob | Not_Jason, debian_offtopic*** |
| 01:50.38 | Not_Jason | Thanks bud |
| 01:50.41 | themill | !arabic |
| 01:50.41 | dpkg | Ù
رØبا! ÙÙØصÙ٠عÙ٠اÙدعÙ
باÙÙغة اÙعربÙØ© ÙتÙزÙعة دبÙا٠جÙÙ\ÙÙÙÙÙس , اÙرجاء اÙتÙج٠اÙÙ ÙÙاة ##debian-ar |
| 01:50.45 | mrdeb | jim: they all apply and arch too |
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| 01:51.00 | Not_Jason | off topic what?? |
| 01:51.15 | A1maff | ØسÙا , Ø´Ùرا ÙÙÙ
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| 01:51.18 | markybob | Not_Jason, for just chatting. not support related. shooting the shit. whatever |
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| 01:51.35 | Not_Jason | No, the astriches |
| 01:51.39 | Not_Jason | What are they |
| 01:51.41 | little | I can\t seem to install Iceweasel |
| 01:51.46 | Not_Jason | spelled that wrong |
| 01:52.08 | markybob | Not_Jason, nothing. i was correcting my passed post. and i was wrong again. it's #debian-offtopic |
| 01:52.28 | aardvark | little: Was it not installed before? What command did you try to run to install Iceweasel and what was its output? |
| 01:52.29 | Not_Jason | markybob, thanks so much |
| 01:52.46 | mrdeb | ok NEVER MIND. i have found asnwers |
| 01:52.49 | mrdeb | yes |
| 01:52.57 | little | apt-get install iceweasel |
| 01:52.59 | Not_Jason | I have gotten on here a dozen times without knowing that |
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| 01:53.14 | markybob | Not_Jason, it's in the /topic :P |
| 01:53.22 | markybob | Not_Jason, i just can't type tonight is all |
| 01:53.29 | little | and the typical spiel abput having not found the package but its been referenced |
| 01:53.41 | Not_Jason | Oh fuck, I feel relly dumb know |
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| 01:53.49 | Not_Jason | Sorry |
| 01:54.12 | jim | mrdeb, I can't change the mind of anyone who doesn't want it... it's probably better if you /ignore me |
| 01:55.28 | Catwiesel | little: did you run apt-get update before? what debian version are you running and what sources are in your sources.list ? |
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| 01:57.12 | A1maff | ÙÙاة دÙبÙا٠اÙعربÙØ© ÙÙس بÙا Ø£Øد ! |
| 01:57.42 | little | nvm |
| 01:57.53 | aardvark | little: Did it work now? |
| 01:57.53 | little | turns out only cd sources were enabled |
| 01:58.18 | Catwiesel | yey i helped! |
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| 01:59.19 | A1maff | Ø£Øتاج Ø¥ÙÙ ØÙ Ù
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| 02:01.07 | aardvark | A1maff: Type /join ##debian-ar |
| 02:01.51 | A1maff | دخÙت باÙÙع٠ÙÙÙ Ùا ÙÙجد Ø¥Ùا إثÙÙÙ ÙÙØ· Ùا ÙردÙا عÙ٠أØد |
| 02:03.02 | Catwiesel | ÙÙاة خاطئة . Ùرج٠Ùتابة : /join #debian-ar |
| 02:03.06 | markybob | A1maff, Ù
ا ÙÙترض بÙا Ø£Ù ÙÙعÙØ Ùا ÙÙ
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| 02:03.45 | A1maff | ØسÙا |
| 02:03.48 | aardvark | likes Google translate as well |
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| 02:04.28 | Catwiesel | it worked :) |
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| 02:05.41 | A1maff | ÙÙ ÙÙس اÙغرÙØ© Ùا ÙÙجد بÙا Ø£Øد Ùرد |
| 02:05.45 | A1maff | سÙ٠أستخدÙ
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| 02:07.14 | markybob | A1maff, if you choose to that's on you. don't expect us to keep going to google translate |
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| 02:07.29 | Catwiesel | ok, thanks again, ill be off to bed gn8 |
| 02:07.39 | aardvark | markybob: I think he said he will use Google translate so that we don't have to |
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| 02:09.11 | A1maff | If i open a partition, hard drive , out me this message. |
| 02:09.20 | A1maff | Not authorized to perform operation |
| 02:09.39 | markybob | A1maff, does it work as sudo/root? |
| 02:09.57 | A1maff | No |
| 02:10.18 | A1maff | Don't even exist |
| 02:10.25 | markybob | A1maff, oh. which filesystem? |
| 02:11.05 | A1maff | ntfs & ext4 |
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| 02:11.16 | markybob | it's one or the other. can't be both |
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| 02:13.05 | A1maff | I have tow partitions ext4 , 3 partitions ntfs |
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| 02:13.43 | markybob | A1maff, which one gives you the permission error? and how did you mount it? |
| 02:14.53 | A1maff | Not authorized to perform operation |
| 02:15.23 | markybob | A1maff, what operation? i didn't ask you to perform anything |
| 02:16.20 | A1maff | operation what? |
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| 02:16.46 | markybob | yeah. this isn't working. |
| 02:16.56 | markybob | i'm sorry. i tried. |
| 02:17.28 | A1maff | :( |
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| 02:17.46 | A1maff | Unfortunately |
| 02:17.58 | aardvark | markybob: Is it even possible that neither sudo nor root exists? |
| 02:18.12 | markybob | aardvark, sure |
| 02:18.42 | aardvark | markybob: Isn't the system then broken? How do you install something? |
| 02:19.00 | aardvark | markybob: I mean not broken, but fixed in state |
| 02:19.14 | markybob | aardvark, you don't. but it's not necessarily broken. it could be done on purpose |
| 02:19.24 | markybob | aardvark, right, fixed |
| 02:19.24 | A1maff | I want to enter to My files. |
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| 02:21.29 | aardvark | markybob: How do I create such a system? Is just setting no root password enough? Or has root to run a command to basically eliminate himself? |
| 02:22.45 | markybob | aardvark, make sure sudo isn't installed. apt-get remove it if need be. then eliminate root login with passwd -l root |
| 02:23.17 | A1maff | Tell me the steps to do it step by step |
| 02:23.57 | markybob | aardvark, but don't get made at me when you can't do shit :P |
| 02:24.08 | A1maff | So I can open the disk partitions |
| 02:24.16 | markybob | aardvark, mad* |
| 02:24.31 | aardvark | markybob: I will not try it out :) But it is good to know how it works. |
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| 02:25.14 | chewieQC | aardvark: Out of curiosity, why do you want to do that..? |
| 02:25.58 | macrobat | A1maff: you could try asking in a few hours when others are awake |
| 02:25.59 | aardvark | chewieQC: I don't want to do it. I was just wondering how it would work. I can't really think of a situation in which this is a good idea. Perhaps an unhackable system? |
| 02:26.23 | markybob | aardvark, no it's still pretty hackable |
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| 02:26.52 | markybob | aardvark, for example the latest openssl security bug. |
| 02:27.09 | aardvark | markybob: Unhackable in the sense that noone can gain root privileges and do something else with the computer. Of course programs keep having bugs and can lead to arbitrary code execution i guess |
| 02:27.09 | chewieQC | aardvark: You would get something very close to an unrooted phone I think. |
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| 02:29.19 | macrobat | A1maff: maybe this is useful? https://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
| 02:29.20 | aardvark | thinks unhackable is a bad word that he should not continue to use. Except perhaps for bananas. |
| 02:30.12 | A1maff | I'll see |
| 02:30.19 | markybob | macrobat, you're wrong there too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJV56WUDng |
| 02:30.53 | macrobat | ok |
| 02:30.54 | aardvark | markybob: :D |
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| 02:40.18 | A1maff | I want to emanate me the window to enter the password for gksu |
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| 02:41.14 | A1maff | To open disk partitions |
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| 02:41.55 | alphazulu | is there a network traffic analyzer which has a web interface? does wireshark have a web interface? |
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| 02:43.47 | A1maff | gksu Out in all programmes , And don't come out in the file manager |
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| 02:44.31 | markybob | A1maff, gksu would only work if sudo/root worked. you said it didnt. |
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| 02:45.57 | A1maff | I install sudo , and add my user to it |
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| 02:47.51 | advrex | What could be causing sshfs to not be able to contact a host? the name can be resolved, and the mount works with 'sudo' in front of sshfs (and I can see the issue.net of the server), but not without sudo.. (sshfs just hangs)- why? cli demo with -o debug http://pastebin.com/QNwUuHaD |
| 02:48.14 | advrex | I'm using kerberos forwarded auth, and have GSSAPI delegation etc turned on both globally and in ssh config |
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| 03:08.41 | advrex | Okay, I've also noticed I can't ping as this user either without using sudo.. Why would this be? How can I enable kerberos users to have system privileges? |
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| 03:31.25 | Lope | Hi I'm having a little trouble running a LXC Debian 7 container on a LXC Debian 7 host. |
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| 03:56.42 | Frogging101-chan | How do I make DKMS build using gcc from /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin? |
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| 03:57.36 | somiaj | Frogging101-chan: is the path during the build not chosing /usr/local/bin as default (usually the $PATH would) |
| 03:57.55 | somiaj | Frogging101-chan: if not, any reason it has to be DKMS, why not just manually build the module as opposed to letting DKMS do it? |
| 03:57.56 | Frogging101-chan | It seems not. It doesn't make much sense because my PATH is set up to have /usr/local/bin first |
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| 03:58.16 | Frogging101-chan | somiaj: I'm not really familiar with this. I suppose I could just do that. But if I can make DKMS do it properly I'd rather do that |
| 03:58.58 | somiaj | Frogging101-chan: I don't know the inner workings of dkms enough to understand how it knows what gcc to call. But debian packages that supply a -dkms package, also supply a -source package so you can manually build the module. |
| 03:59.50 | somiaj | Unless someone else knows more, you may have to start digging into the inner workings of dkms to answer your question. I was just tryign to suggest an alternative. |
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| 04:00.01 | Frogging101-chan | yeah |
| 04:00.02 | Frogging101-chan | thanks |
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| 04:04.01 | davmillar | Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? |
| 04:04.01 | davmillar | sed -i'' -e "s/css?dc=(.{5})/css?dc=${styledc}/" -e "s/js?dc=(.{5})/js?dc=${scriptdc}/" includes/header.php |
| 04:04.24 | davmillar | The (.{5}) parts aren't matching "00000" |
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| 04:10.03 | socomm | davmillar: /j #sed |
| 04:10.24 | grim4593 | Ya know |
| 04:10.38 | grim4593 | if you step back and look at that mess of letters and symbols |
| 04:10.38 | davmillar | Thanks socomm |
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| 04:10.52 | grim4593 | it is no wonder computers don't work they way they are supposed to |
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| 04:11.39 | davmillar | grim4593 it's a bit less messy split out on several lines - guess I ought to make a pastebin for that version |
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| 04:15.31 | Lope | My /dev/console seems to be broken in my LXC Debian 7 Wheezy container that I created by debootstrapping a standard Deb7Wheezy install, but it wouldn't boot and tty1-4 were missing. So I made these changes http://codepad.org/xZcwXLez now it boots and works mostly except when trying pon my-pppoe-connection I get errors about not being able to connect to /dev/console and binary bytes get dumped in my terminal, which is not supposed to happen. When my LXC Debian7 |
| 04:15.31 | Lope | Wheezy container boots it says "[warn] udev does not support containers, not started ; [warn] mount point /dev/console /dev/tty1 and /dev/tty2 does not exist. Skipping mount." I've debootstrapped a Debian 8 Jesse LXC container on a Debian 8 Jesse host, and after making a few adjustments due to SystemD in Jesse, the Jesse container handles PPPoE just fine. So I should be able to get the wheezy container PPPoE working if I can sort out /dev/console. Any ideas? |
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| 04:25.35 | tlolczyk | Simple question. Some deb packages I installed came from a third party repos because there was a delay in accepting them into the main debian/ubuntu repos. Now they've been updated in the main repos. I've removed the third party repos. I want to make sure the packages I have now all came from the main repos. Is it possible? |
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| 04:33.18 | Lope | [SOLVED] I was doing something stupid. I forgot to change br0 to eth0 inside the pppoe connection files inside the container. Works now :) |
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| 05:13.02 | mystica555 | if ssh host keys are deleted, does the debian systemd (equivilant to init script that i lose the word for) startup sequence re-generate the missing host keys? or sshd itself? or must one dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 05:55.19 | han-solo | hello |
| 05:55.28 | Karlo | hi |
| 05:55.40 | han-solo | what's new? |
| 05:55.48 | han-solo | except spaceX :) |
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| 06:01.15 | laidback_01_ | hey, is there a cron package I should be seting up to 'trim' the SSD debian is installed on? |
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| 06:03.00 | laidback_01_ | nevermind, just found: https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization |
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| 06:08.29 | xVim | Hi. I boguht a new all-in-one printer device and am unsure how to install the drivers. Brother offers several drivers in form of a deb package, some of then will install LPR, CUPSwrapper driver and scanner driver. I am unsure now if I should just go with the Brother solution or try to install something (e.g. CUPS) from the Debian repositories. |
| 06:09.00 | xVim | http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=eu_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcl2700dw_us_eu_as&os=128#more |
| 06:09.20 | jeep | xVim: when you install the .deb it should grab the other things needed |
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| 06:09.41 | jeep | xVim: installing cups ahead of time would be fine too though |
| 06:10.08 | xVim | jeep: But doesnt that mean that I will not be able to receive updates? |
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| 06:10.24 | xVim | for exam[ple for SANE? |
| 06:10.48 | jeep | xVim: no it will update from the repos like normal |
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| 06:11.29 | EO_ | How do I clone/checkout this: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-cryptsetup/cryptsetup/trunk/ |
| 06:11.32 | jeep | xVim: the brother .deb i used before was just configuration settings for cups .. not actually a program |
| 06:11.48 | xVim | jeep: Ok thanks. I will install CUPS first via aptitude and then install the deb. Thanks, I appreciate your help :) |
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| 06:29.58 | EO_ | Where is debian source code hosted? I'd like to browse history of a certain package. |
| 06:30.19 | EO_ | Using cvs/svn/git/etc, not the web browser |
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| 06:42.39 | johnny0 | EO_: There's likely a link to a repo on the source package's packages.debian.org entry |
| 06:47.07 | EO_ | johnny0: am I blind? https://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/cryptsetup |
| 06:47.42 | EO_ | I am blind! svn://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-cryptsetup/cryptsetup/trunk |
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| 06:48.57 | EO_ | thanks |
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| 07:13.23 | xVim | jeep: Thanks again, the installation of both printer and scanner worked flawless. Looking forward to chain scanning with tesseract OCR and automatic document tagging/saving :) |
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| 07:27.13 | Guest76093 | I'm a bit new to linux but not a complete noob.. |
| 07:27.32 | Xilas | bash: aptitude: command not found |
| 07:27.50 | NotNarwhal | try apt-get? :D |
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| 07:28.01 | Xilas | how do i remedy that? i would assume that i need the packages |
| 07:28.39 | han-solo | yes |
| 07:29.00 | Xilas | sudo apt-get install multiget |
| 07:29.27 | Xilas | hehe dont have multiget either |
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| 07:30.50 | Xilas | sudo apt-get install aptitude :: E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate |
| 07:30.56 | Xilas | sighs |
| 07:31.32 | han-solo | check the repos |
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| 07:34.06 | han-solo | brb |
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| 07:38.02 | Xilas | why wouldnt aptitude be in spm |
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| 07:38.36 | Xilas | so im using bunsen labs CB |
| 07:38.55 | Xilas | i didnt get to run the welcome script, do you know how to re-run that? |
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| 07:54.33 | jim | what's spm |
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| 07:54.45 | ark_ | got the welcome script to run |
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| 08:47.36 | ychaouche | waves |
| 08:47.46 | ychaouche | Debainists, what is wrong with me ? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/926379dea86e5f9b0469/raw/f2e12644d1b579e4a86c56d19a846b5879c56be2/gistfile1.txt |
| 08:48.13 | ychaouche | it says it can't find bc, but in the other hand when I try to install it it says it's already at the latest version ? |
| 08:48.42 | impaktor | Problem in Evolution, on Wheezy: My inbox is gone! All I see is the virtual "search folders" directory. I've tried all different view and display options. |
| 08:49.00 | impaktor | I don't have any filter on or anything. |
| 08:50.51 | impaktor | I'm thinking if I should upgrade to jessie from wheezy and hope that fixes it. |
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| 09:10.34 | mfe | hi |
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| 09:11.42 | mfe | i want to write a client program which sends files to a linux server. this should write the file into a proper samba dictionary |
| 09:12.00 | mfe | exists there a linux service for this ? |
| 09:12.20 | mfe | or have i to write a linux service on my own? |
| 09:12.54 | hexnewbie | Samba dictionary? |
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| 09:18.34 | hiya | how can we stay updated with current version of OpenSSL lib? |
| 09:18.55 | hiya | the version used by Debian is vuln |
| 09:19.15 | hexnewbie | hiya: From the debian security repository? |
| 09:19.43 | hexnewbie | hiya: http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates |
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| 09:20.49 | hiya | hexnewbie, but it did not update openSSL yet |
| 09:21.07 | hexnewbie | hiya: How do you mean? |
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| 09:21.50 | sweb | i want http cache server for front end if backedn server going down frond cache server response cache version of page |
| 09:22.18 | jelly | hiya: if you have a particular CVE number in mind, you can check whether it's fixed or not on security-tracker.debian.org |
| 09:22.19 | sweb | i try nginx but i cant handle down of backend server http://serverfault.com/questions/752838/nginx-use-proxy-cache-if-backend-is-down |
| 09:23.03 | sweb | i wanna cache server alwayse work like proxy server but if backend server (real server) going down server the cache version |
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| 09:24.27 | hiya | hexnewbie, we have a new vuln in openssl now |
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| 09:24.43 | hiya | https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2016-January/000059.html |
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| 09:26.21 | jelly | hiya: so, go enter CVE-2016-0701 in the security tracker and check whether it's fixed |
| 09:26.23 | hexnewbie | hiya: Debian packages are not affected by that - SSLv2 is disabled (as per stretch's changelog) |
| 09:27.30 | hexnewbie | And Jessie isn't vulnerable to CVE-2016-0701, because that's only an issue with OpenSSL 1.0.2 |
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| 09:28.01 | hiya | hexnewbie, hehe :) ok thanks |
| 09:28.06 | hiya | jelly, ok thanks too |
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| 09:28.19 | mfe | what you mean with <hexnewbie> Samba dictionary? |
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| 09:29.17 | hexnewbie | hiya: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-3197 |
| 09:29.33 | binbasher1 | how do I check which video drivers I'm using again? |
| 09:30.09 | hexnewbie | hiya: The same for CVE-2016-0701 - all are fixed |
| 09:30.18 | hexnewbie | mfe: What *IS* a Samba dictionary? |
| 09:30.26 | hexnewbie | mfe: It's the first time I hear of such thing |
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| 09:34.31 | hiya | hexnewbie, Ok thanks :) I think Debian is the best, but should not we be updating to 1.0.1r like said in the article? |
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| 09:36.05 | hexnewbie | hiya: The needed security fixed are backported, I believe. |
| 09:36.15 | hexnewbie | hiya: It is Debian stable after all |
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| 09:39.37 | lerner | sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -l returns Disk /dev/sdb: 512 B, 512 bytes, 1 sectors, but the unit is 1TB big... lsblk lists the unit without partitions, but the right ammount of space (1TB). I cannot pvcreate like that: sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb returns Device /dev/sdb not found (or ignored by filtering). whats wrong? |
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| 09:41.44 | hiya | hexnewbie, Do we have a openssl lib in backports? |
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| 09:43.27 | mfe | ah okay lol hexagoxel. your right. I need a linux service which should recivieve the file(s) (from my own written app) and write them into a share |
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| 10:18.44 | hexnewbie | mfe: net / smbclient / libsmbclient |
| 10:19.38 | hexnewbie | mfe: Or a Samba server. Depending on what you mean by all that. |
| 10:21.57 | binbasher1 | how do I check which graphics driver I'm using? |
| 10:23.06 | hexnewbie | binbasher1: See /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 10:30.29 | hiya | why does Debian take a lot of time in generating DH? |
| 10:30.34 | atralheaven | how can I monitor a user's internet traffic usage? I need to limit users internet traffic, like n GB internet traffic per month |
| 10:30.59 | atralheaven | hiya: still hours? |
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| 10:32.57 | hiya | atralheaven, you can use nload and keep it running :) Or Debian's activity monitor has an option too |
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| 10:33.07 | hiya | atralheaven, how are you? left my community? |
| 10:33.09 | hiya | :P |
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| 10:33.55 | Rephlexie | atralheaven, cant do it at the router? |
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| 11:03.30 | DoctorD90 | guys, i have this scenario: i want to not automount a partition during system running, even if i plug in disk or unplug it. But i need that partition will be mounted at boot time before every else stuff. How may i write in fstab? |
| 11:04.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 11:04.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | whats a good virus or trojan scanner for linux/debian? |
| 11:04.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a package? |
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| 11:04.54 | DoctorD90 | Eryn_1983_FL clamav |
| 11:05.16 | DoctorD90 | apt-cache search rootkit < first 2 packages :P |
| 11:05.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 11:05.28 | DoctorD90 | sorry Eryn_1983_FL |
| 11:05.41 | DoctorD90 | i would mean clamav + apt-stuffs :P |
| 11:05.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 11:06.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dl both |
| 11:06.05 | DoctorD90 | ;) |
| 11:06.20 | DoctorD90 | use calmavtk as user interface :) |
| 11:06.25 | DoctorD90 | for clamav |
| 11:07.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 11:07.32 | towo` | clamav is useless as a goiter since it can only detect windows viruses and has a poor detection rate |
| 11:07.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | really |
| 11:08.30 | towo` | and a virus scanner is not needed at all on a linux system |
| 11:09.36 | teraflops | ,v clamav |
| 11:09.39 | judd | Package: clamav on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; squeeze-security-lts: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb6u2; wheezy: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; wheezy-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; jessie: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; stretch: 0.99+dfsg-1; sid: 0.99+dfsg-1 |
| 11:09.47 | DoctorD90 | towo` from my knowledge clam detect 'all' viruses. And thinking that "linux hasnt virus" is a very stuff without meaning |
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| 11:10.03 | nkuttler | i can write you a linux virus in a few minutes |
| 11:10.25 | DoctorD90 | hi nkuttler :P ...as i said lol...thx |
| 11:10.27 | nkuttler | the users would just have to be stupid enough to click the email attachment.. |
| 11:10.33 | nkuttler | you know, like on windows.. |
| 11:11.10 | DoctorD90 | average of linux virus < average windows virus , doesnt mean that linux virus = 0 |
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| 11:11.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | i don't know that enlarge you penis ad is pretty tempting.. |
| 11:11.35 | at0m | this is why i don't have sudo. |
| 11:11.49 | nkuttler | nothing wrong with sudo when configured properly |
| 11:11.50 | DoctorD90 | ahahahah Eryn_1983_FL lol |
| 11:12.01 | DoctorD90 | nkuttler configured properly= ? |
| 11:12.04 | DoctorD90 | any guide? |
| 11:12.10 | nkuttler | DoctorD90: depends on your level of paranoia |
| 11:12.16 | DoctorD90 | ehehe |
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| 11:12.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | i can only use ls thats my sudo.. |
| 11:12.37 | nkuttler | DoctorD90: but you can be very specific about which commands can be run, which files can be edited, etc |
| 11:12.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | nkuttler: how do you do files? |
| 11:12.55 | DoctorD90 | btw...im yet getting crazy with this sd card mounting stuff....maybe "learning" sudo is not a stuff for today :P |
| 11:13.04 | nkuttler | Eryn_1983_FL: sudoedit |
| 11:13.13 | Rephlexie | man visudo |
| 11:13.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | sudoedit? like sudoedit /my/random/file? |
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| 11:13.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 11:13.48 | DoctorD90 | ..... sudo nano /dev/urandom ......i dont know what could happend xD |
| 11:13.58 | DoctorD90 | i should try on a live system :P |
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| 11:16.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmmm |
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| 11:21.34 | DoctorD90 | nkuttler do you have idea about my little issue with fstab? :P |
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| 11:24.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | Cmnd_Alias SHELL = /bin/bash, /bin/dash/, /bin/sh |
| 11:24.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
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| 11:25.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | so is this how i would set it up guys |
| 11:25.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | Cmnd_Alias FILES = /my/file.txt, my/file/here.txt |
| 11:25.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | ex: sudoedit /my/file.txt |
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| 11:31.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | sweet works wow |
| 11:32.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | had to put sudoedit in front of files |
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| 11:48.20 | BinBasher | https://github.com/tvogel/vaio-f11-linux/issues/51 anyone got this to work? |
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| 12:01.55 | slavanap | Hello, guys. Can you explain this one to me? http://pastebin.com/sANambGG |
| 12:02.12 | slavanap | What this errors mean? and what else I should install. |
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| 12:53.22 | Voyage | my redmine says Installed: 3.0~20140825-8 in ubuntu "apt-cache policy redmine" but 2.5 in url/redmine/information page. Any clue why? |
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| 12:54.20 | ewew | !ubuntu |
| 12:54.20 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 12:54.26 | ewew | Voyage ^ |
| 12:54.44 | Voyage | ewew, ok but arent they similar in the context of question |
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| 12:58.48 | f31n | is there a way to add a second dns server to my server? |
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| 13:02.26 | atralheaven | how can I monitor a user's internet traffic usage? I need to limit users internet traffic, like n GB internet traffic per month |
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| 13:02.59 | atralheaven | I can't do it at the router, its a vps |
| 13:03.04 | bkovacki | Is there a way to configure a JAVA_HOME environment variable, so that it is updated when java alternatives are updated? |
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| 13:04.25 | Voyage | ewew, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783711 |
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| 13:04.26 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/783711 in redmine (open): «redmine: Version number is misleading/wrong»; severity: minor; opened: 2015-04-29; last modified: 2015-06-18. |
| 13:04.36 | ikonia | you're not using debian though |
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| 13:04.50 | ikonia | you're using a pre-release version of ubuntu that may not even be based on that package |
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| 13:08.00 | Amun_Ra | f31n: on non standard port, but it will be of no external use |
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| 13:13.01 | BinBasher | to get rid of lightdm and reinstall gdm3 do I just aptitude purge lightdm if gdm3 is installed? |
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| 13:13.26 | Amun_Ra | BinBasher: gdm3 should remove lightdm automagically |
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| 13:13.54 | nuka-cola | Hmmm |
| 13:13.59 | BinBasher | Amun_Ra: I have gdm3 and lightdm, I now have lightdm as a default |
| 13:14.10 | BinBasher | well that's what I understand about it |
| 13:14.31 | nuka-cola | Amun_Ra: are you sure? |
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| 13:17.19 | Amun_Ra | uhm, you are right |
| 13:17.22 | Amun_Ra | hides under rock |
| 13:17.31 | nuka-cola | Amun_Ra: heh np |
| 13:18.48 | nuka-cola | BinBasher: just systemctl disable gdm first. I'm at the.phone so press tab since idk if it's gdm or gdm3 |
| 13:19.32 | nuka-cola | Then systemctl enable lightdm |
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| 13:24.48 | BinBasher | nuka-cola: is it persisten upon reboot? |
| 13:24.55 | Mion | yes |
| 13:25.29 | BinBasher | thanks |
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| 13:26.57 | nuka-cola | BinBasher: notice enable does not mean start so if you don't reboot you need to start it the first time |
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| 13:35.48 | BinBasher | nuka-cola: are enable - start and disable - stop the same thing? |
| 13:35.56 | BinBasher | I used to do it with start and stop.. |
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| 13:38.16 | sonOfRa | BinBasher: start and stop just start and stop. enable and disable are persistent. |
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| 13:38.35 | nuka-cola | BinBasher: I cannot check it. You mean there's a enable-start option? If yes it enables and starts the first time. |
| 13:38.54 | BinBasher | nuka-cola: what sonOfRa said |
| 13:38.59 | BinBasher | thanks sonOfRa |
| 13:39.19 | smdrz | can someone able to install clang-3.5 from backports? |
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| 13:40.16 | jeddi | man systemctl includes: " |
| 13:40.17 | jeddi | Enabling units should not be confused with starting (activating) units, as done by the start command. Enabling and starting units is |
| 13:40.19 | jeddi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.26 | jeddi | Whoops, sorry, thought that'd all squeeze onto one line. |
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| 13:44.42 | BinBasher | what sort of things are included in the gdm3 config files (which are removed by purging) ? any examples? |
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| 13:45.09 | BinBasher | is it just the keybinds and extensions? |
| 13:45.20 | f31n | is there any _actual_ bind9 webgui exept of webmin? oO? i find only very old or outdated versions ... (probind uses php4 and superglobals etc etc) |
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| 13:49.48 | markybob | f31n, no |
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| 13:51.02 | Water-Fox | hello |
| 13:51.05 | Mion | f31n: none that you should consider using (and no, you should not use webmin) |
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| 13:51.37 | Mion | f31n: but if you want to run some horrible web interface full of security holes there are cpanel and various other closed source managemnt panels |
| 13:52.27 | BinBasher | anyone? :P |
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| 13:52.54 | Water-Fox | some days ago i visited ##windows, to troubleshoot a error. the beginning, both OSes were installed a week, so i've tested first windows for a week, and then debian for a week. the result: on windows: driver crashes, it instantly powered off my hardware, debian: no problems, no crashes, all works fine and better ... the "fanboys" said my hardware is failing, cause debian lies to me |
| 13:52.55 | Water-Fox | lol |
| 13:52.58 | Water-Fox | is that true? |
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| 13:53.33 | nkuttler | Water-Fox: depends on the problem. some things just end up in logs |
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| 13:53.59 | Water-Fox | nkuttler: i checked all logs too in the 2 weeks |
| 13:54.05 | markybob | Water-Fox, for SMART changes you should get a popup if you run a DE. i got one just the other day and it made me cry |
| 13:54.11 | nkuttler | Water-Fox: so what was the problem on windows? |
| 13:54.12 | Water-Fox | only windows had some driver issues etc, i didn't noticed any fails on debian |
| 13:54.30 | markybob | Water-Fox, it's not "lying" |
| 13:54.37 | nkuttler | like, which driver |
| 13:54.40 | Water-Fox | bluetoth driver crashes on windows; on debian it ran fine |
| 13:55.06 | nkuttler | Water-Fox: that sounds non-critical, a linux system most likely would just log an error instead of crashing the whole system |
| 13:55.19 | Water-Fox | on windows, it crashes |
| 13:55.20 | Water-Fox | :D |
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| 13:56.17 | f31n | Mion: i know that risk, therefore it won't be accessable from the www but from localhost - i'm just not really used to do the configuration with cli |
| 13:56.47 | markybob | f31n, no time to learn like the present |
| 13:57.00 | Mion | f31n: well, for dns there really isn't much difference in just writing the zonefile by hand or using a web interface |
| 13:57.03 | Water-Fox | this made me really crying, but i have the crashes on windows 7, 8, and 8.1 - not on these OSes before 10 was released - this can't be random, i'm planning to switch to debian now |
| 13:57.07 | Water-Fox | they make me angry |
| 13:57.09 | Water-Fox | :( |
| 13:57.16 | Mion | f31n: hell, many of the web interfaces pretty much just gives you the zonefile to edit by hand anyway |
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| 13:57.51 | nkuttler | Water-Fox: good for you! |
| 13:57.56 | f31n | Mion: okay that won't help me anyway |
| 13:58.00 | Water-Fox | nkuttler: sarcasm? |
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| 13:58.07 | f31n | okay so i'll do it from cli ... you won |
| 13:58.14 | nkuttler | Water-Fox: no |
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| 14:03.52 | BinBasher | where even are the config files for gnome on debian? :s |
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| 14:06.20 | Brigo | BinBasher, /etc ? |
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| 14:06.30 | ikus060 | Hello, since yesterday I have trouble with my Gnome environment. The you and the keyboard get capture by different windows. i.e. all the click are received by a sindow, while keyboard are capture by a different windows. |
| 14:06.36 | ikus060 | Any idea what is going on ? |
| 14:07.09 | ikus060 | **The mouse and the keyboard |
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| 14:07.26 | MikeSeth | does debian live still exist? |
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| 14:07.41 | MikeSeth | pets kunwon1 |
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| 14:08.22 | markybob | MikeSeth, the last release is there...but no. the guy working on it quit |
| 14:09.42 | MikeSeth | hrm |
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| 14:10.26 | MikeSeth | Cloning into 'debian-live'... |
| 14:10.26 | MikeSeth | warning: You appear to have cloned an empty repository. |
| 14:10.50 | MikeSeth | oh there are more repos |
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| 14:12.34 | markybob | MikeSeth, there is this...so i guess there's light at the end of the tunnel. https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00080.html |
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| 14:13.09 | MikeSeth | I need to produce a customized bootable USB with an encrypted fs... |
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| 14:22.25 | woshty | who came up with calling the great network util just ip? |
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| 14:24.58 | jelly | woshty: presumably upstream authors of iproute2 |
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| 14:25.42 | jelly | woshty: feel free to dig into their changelog and VCS history, if you figure out the answer report it back here |
| 14:26.04 | teclo- | yeah that's an interesting question woshty ;) |
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| 14:26.57 | teclo- | a bit like "Where did the N in umount go ?" |
| 14:27.09 | woshty | it is like they never used a search engine, is my point |
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| 14:31.49 | axel_fly | hi at all |
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| 14:32.17 | jelly | woshty: search engines weren't much of a concern in 1996 |
| 14:32.29 | axel_fly | is there a possibility for a backup image and auto installations |
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| 14:34.15 | jelly | woshty: in fact if you used the term |
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| 14:34.42 | jelly | search engine back then, you'd probably have meant an ftp site indexer |
| 14:35.29 | jelly | like ftpsearch.ntnu.no |
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| 14:37.34 | atralheaven | is iptables quota installed by default on debian? |
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| 14:37.57 | jelly | atralheaven: nope |
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| 14:38.50 | jelly | I don't even know what iptables quota is, but debian has a clean slate, no config, iptables setup by default anyway |
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| 14:41.50 | smdrz | nftables rocks and easier than iptables, wonder if gui exists? |
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| 14:45.16 | atralheaven | jelly: how can I install it? |
| 14:45.37 | atralheaven | oh I just saw your second pm |
| 14:46.15 | markybob | atralheaven, i have to assume you mean just iptables. quotas is just a rule. |
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| 14:47.26 | rudi_s | atralheaven: And it's available on Debian by default. |
| 14:47.32 | rudi_s | jelly: ^ |
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| 14:48.06 | rudi_s | smdrz: Is nftables stable for production already? |
| 14:48.57 | smdrz | yes |
| 14:49.06 | smdrz | @rudi_s , yes |
| 14:49.21 | rudi_s | Any good docs available you could point me to? |
| 14:49.39 | rudi_s | Which kernel version is recommended? |
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| 14:50.24 | smdrz | syntax is similar to iptables so try combine it wiki HOWTO pages of nftabels |
| 14:50.31 | smdrz | 4.1-* |
| 14:50.41 | markybob | rudi_s, wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/ |
| 14:51.00 | markybob | rudi_s, backports has 4.3. i use that |
| 14:51.29 | rudi_s | Thank you. |
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| 15:10.13 | entourage | How do I install Virtualbox guest additions when I run Debian as a guest in Virtualbox??? |
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| 15:11.35 | markybob | entourage, apt-cache search virtualbox guest |
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| 15:12.07 | jelly | dpkg, tell entourage about non-free sources |
| 15:12.30 | jelly | entourage: you'll have to modify the sources to at least include the "contrib" section |
| 15:12.35 | jelly | ,v virtualbox-guest-utils |
| 15:12.36 | judd | Package: virtualbox-guest-utils on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; squeeze-backports: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates/contrib: |
| 15:12.37 | judd | 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.0.14-dfsg-1~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 5.0.14-dfsg-1; sid/contrib: 5.0.14-dfsg-2 |
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| 15:12.55 | jelly | then install ^^ that thing I guess |
| 15:13.57 | oo_miguel | Can anyone help me and tell where to start investigating please (trouble starts at line 581): http://paste.debian.net/377789/ |
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| 15:18.44 | jelly | oo_miguel: ouch. Can you try getting rid of vbox, reboot and see if it happens again? |
| 15:19.16 | oo_miguel | jelly: I rebooted, without gettint rid of vbox |
| 15:19.23 | oo_miguel | but I can follow your advice |
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| 15:19.40 | oo_miguel | jelly: what makes you think it is vbox? |
| 15:19.55 | markybob | oo_miguel, because that's what you pasted says |
| 15:19.59 | jelly | oo_miguel: nothing, but it's present and it's historically been buggy |
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| 15:23.07 | jelly | oo_miguel: is this the first time you got oops with this kernel? |
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| 15:25.44 | oo_miguel | jelly: this particular kernel was updated about 1 or 2 weeks ago and I did not have any oops yet. However I already experienced some oops 1 or 2 months ago, but ignored them after they went away when I restarted |
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| 15:26.03 | oo_miguel | I mean I did not have any oops with the current kernel until today |
| 15:26.31 | oo_miguel | I will follow your advice and remove vbox and hope it helps |
| 15:26.39 | oo_miguel | thank you |
| 15:26.56 | jelly | seeing as it happened after 7 days uptime, it's going to take some time to figure out the cause anyway |
| 15:27.37 | oo_miguel | jelly: But it doesn't seem to be hardware failure right? |
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| 15:28.29 | jelly | hard to say, but there seem to be multiple segfaults around cache_reap |
| 15:28.58 | jelly | a hw failure tends to cause seemingly random oopses |
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| 15:29.27 | jelly | RAM* failure |
| 15:29.42 | jelly | no idea what a CPU failure might look like |
| 15:29.49 | oo_miguel | jelly: I understand. thanks a lot for your help |
| 15:31.33 | jelly | if there're similar reports on oops.kernel.org that would point to a software bug |
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| 15:31.41 | jelly | ,v kerneloops |
| 15:31.43 | judd | Package: kerneloops on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.12+git20090217-1; sid: 0.12+git20140509-2; stretch: 0.12+git20140509-2 |
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| 15:32.19 | jelly | oo_miguel: you might be able to install the kerneloops package from stretch, VERY carefully, and see if it reports what it finds in kern.log |
| 15:35.04 | oo_miguel | ok I am on jessie. guess its time to learn how to install something from other distributions ;) |
| 15:35.43 | markybob | oo_miguel, no. i hope you're joking. |
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| 15:37.11 | markybob | !dont break debian |
| 15:37.11 | dpkg | from memory, dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 15:39.03 | oo_miguel | markybob: ok thank you for this link |
| 15:39.21 | oo_miguel | I guess I prefer to build kerneloops myself then |
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| 15:45.13 | jelly | dpkg, tell oo_miguel about simple sid backport |
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| 15:49.11 | thomasfuston | how would i resize root partition? |
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| 15:51.08 | dvs | thomasfuston: debian live + gparted |
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| 15:51.29 | jelly | thomasfuston: (make a backup. Make sure your backup works.) then boot latest gparted livecd and do it from there |
| 15:51.37 | oo_miguel | jelly: thank you very very much |
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| 15:55.09 | thomasfuston | ok, to bad debian normal install only reserve onyl 10GB for root |
| 15:55.33 | dvs | thomasfuston: You can manually set partitions during setup |
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| 15:56.05 | thomasfuston | i know :) just was lazy so my fault now that i need texlive its meh :) well gonna readjust it with gparted thx |
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| 15:59.58 | jelly | thomasfuston: next time, use LVM and don't let the stupid installer allocate 100% of the space for /home |
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| 16:00.21 | thomasfuston | kk |
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| 16:01.57 | thomasfuston | lvm for just 1 hdd in notebook? |
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| 16:05.02 | jelly | yes |
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| 16:05.35 | jelly | then you'd be able to resize / without downtime |
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| 16:09.20 | Devastator | if I'm gonna to replace a ethernet card, I need to edit udev rules for it to have the same name as the old one, right? |
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| 16:11.21 | zykotick9 | dpkg: tell Devastator about 70 |
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| 16:12.35 | Devastator | zykotick9 thanks! can I edit it prior to exchange or should I do it afterwards? |
| 16:12.49 | jelly | Devastator: editing before may save you one reboot |
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| 16:14.09 | Devastator | jelly right! thanks! |
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| 16:19.34 | BinBasher | so wsky |
| 16:19.40 | wsky | yeah |
| 16:20.04 | wsky | you might want to upgrade your kernel to the backported one too |
| 16:20.04 | BinBasher | my intel driver hasn't changed since, only got back to nouveau |
| 16:20.13 | wsky | the kernel |
| 16:20.25 | wsky | the kernel from backprts contains more recent nouveau module |
| 16:20.28 | BinBasher | backlight worked with nvidia not with nouveau |
| 16:20.34 | BinBasher | is it stable? |
| 16:20.38 | wsky | it is |
| 16:20.50 | BinBasher | certain? :P not like last time.. |
| 16:21.06 | wsky | also if you play games you really should set your nvidia module |
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| 16:21.14 | wsky | yes i'm using it as we speak |
| 16:21.44 | wsky | # uname -r |
| 16:21.44 | wsky | 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 16:21.50 | BinBasher | wsky: nvidia has always been so buggy with debian.. I've had so much trouble with it |
| 16:22.04 | wsky | it's not buggy, it's you who missconfigured it |
| 16:22.15 | BinBasher | I just did what you told me O. |
| 16:22.18 | BinBasher | O.o |
| 16:22.23 | wsky | but if you want to stick to nouveau it's up to you |
| 16:22.43 | wsky | dude, i'm not at your computer, i can't see what you're doing |
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| 16:22.56 | wsky | i told you to run some commands when you ran twm but you refused |
| 16:23.05 | wsky | and then you decided to revert to nouveau |
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| 16:23.45 | BinBasher | you told me to install nvidia like you said, I told I had trouble with it before and asked how to get back to nouveau if it doesn't work |
| 16:24.00 | wsky | it didn;t work because you didn't configure it properly |
| 16:24.10 | wsky | i'm not at your system, i can't see what's happening |
| 16:24.23 | BinBasher | I didn't have to configure anything |
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| 16:24.23 | BinBasher | wait |
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| 16:24.53 | wsky | if you came here to blame me that you can't configure your system then whatever dude |
| 16:26.42 | BinBasher | :/ |
| 16:27.25 | BinBasher | I never blamed you. |
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| 16:27.36 | BinBasher | I thanked you for your help. |
| 16:27.39 | wsky | ok |
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| 16:30.16 | jelly | BinBasher: it depends on the card and kernel and driver version. |
| 16:31.11 | jelly | BinBasher: eg. 340.x are stable for me on jessie's default kernel, 3.16, with 2-3 weeks uptime but only 2-3 days with 4.3 or 4.2 from backports |
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| 16:31.46 | jelly | (and nouveau is even less stable, but in different ways) |
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| 16:33.19 | BinBasher | jelly: I think I just have to upgrade my kernel.. I'm getting the "bbswitch: no suitable _DSM call found |
| 16:33.21 | BinBasher | bug |
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| 16:34.56 | jelly | oh, I have no experience with bumblebee |
| 16:35.03 | nuka-cola | wonders if people looks at the stick in the laptop that says optimus technology ... |
| 16:35.16 | jelly | some do |
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| 16:36.16 | jelly | my last two laptops were specifically checked for intel gpu-only |
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| 16:36.56 | nuka-cola | jelly: good point I have the nvidia gpu disabled in the bios |
| 16:36.59 | BinBasher | nuka-cola: what stick :P |
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| 16:37.59 | BinBasher | jelly: nvidia caused nothing but trouble for me so far :-( |
| 16:38.01 | nuka-cola | BinBasher: heh, nah is that I see here people that does not now that thay have optimus enabled laptops and they need optimus for taking the discrete gpu working |
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| 16:38.16 | nuka-cola | they* |
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| 16:40.53 | BinBasher | nuka-cola: I had optumus, lol, I'm guessing it was something in the kernel.. |
| 16:41.09 | enoch85 | hey guys, I'm about to move from Ubuntu Server to Debian Jessie, and to do that I have to make some changes to my install scripts - but I got stuck here: https://github.com/enoch85/ownCloud-VM/blob/master/debian/owncloud_install.sh#L63L72 due to that the password is "lost" when It's about to install ownCloud, and if I abort the script and try to connect to mysql I get permission denied due to wrong password. How is this possible, have I |
| 16:41.09 | enoch85 | missed something? All help is much appriciated! |
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| 16:43.06 | hiya | Anyone good with IPtables? I want to limit data/traffic to 2GB / user / month on my OpenVPN server, is is it possible? if so how can private IP be a parameter? |
| 16:43.49 | markybob | hiya, the people in #netfilter are really good |
| 16:43.57 | hiya | markybob, Ok thanks |
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| 16:48.43 | dontknow | anyone knows elementary os theme for debian? |
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| 16:49.35 | DoctorD90 | guys may I use PARTUUID instead of UUID in crypttab? |
| 16:49.57 | enoch85 | dontknow: try deepin 15 |
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| 16:50.12 | nuka-cola | oh I said optimus i meant bumblebee ^ |
| 16:50.27 | enoch85 | dontknow: not the answer to your question maybe, but I had Elementary before, Deepin is ALOT better |
| 16:50.55 | dontknow | enoch85, i dont want another distro |
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| 16:51.51 | dontknow | enoch85, deepin looks like a data mining distro |
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| 16:55.21 | jeep | dontknow: elementary is its own distro |
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| 16:56.10 | dontknow | jeep, i know but i am looking for debian compatible theme |
| 16:57.22 | jeep | dontknow: looks like wbar for the menu bar looking at screen shot |
| 16:57.39 | jeep | dontknow: xfce plus wbar would look same |
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| 17:03.10 | pseud | So I'm stuck with an install because I can't get any internet connection going - One option is a USB ethernet adapter which debian thinks isn't working (link isn't up, cable has been checked). The other is my wifi card which requires 2 ucode files.. I know how to get them but I can't extract a deb on windows... Any clever ideas ? I've spent an hour installing debian in virtualbox to extract the friggin' deb only to get stuck with installing |
| 17:03.10 | pseud | guest tools (to get the ucode files to USB)..... >_< |
| 17:04.08 | jelly | dpkg, tell pseud about firmware images |
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| 17:05.03 | pseud | jelly: oh - that's nice.. Finally |
| 17:05.16 | pseud | (Not finally wrt to you.. Just that I can finally get on with this - sorry) |
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| 17:06.01 | jelly | pseud: you might also try to rename .deb to .ar and see if it gets opened by an archival utility |
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| 17:06.30 | pseud | Nah, the download just finished, this I know how to do from windows without trouble |
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| 17:23.45 | hiya | how do I delete two new IPtables rules I just added |
| 17:23.49 | hiya | they are temp |
| 17:23.58 | hiya | not even permanent |
| 17:24.14 | markybob | hiya, easiest way is to flush. iptables -F |
| 17:24.37 | hiya | markybob, What would it do? |
| 17:24.51 | markybob | hiya, get rid of everything |
| 17:24.56 | hiya | no no |
| 17:25.03 | hiya | I do not want to get rid of everything |
| 17:25.08 | hiya | I want it to be as it is |
| 17:25.16 | hiya | but these two rules I just add |
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| 17:25.22 | markybob | hiya, then use iptables -D |
| 17:25.38 | hiya | markybob, I am scared :( |
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| 17:25.49 | hiya | iptables -A INPUT -s 10.8.0.4 -j DROP |
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| 17:25.58 | hiya | iptables -A INPUT -s 10.8.0.4 -m quota --quota 1024 -j ACCEPT |
| 17:26.08 | hiya | I added these two |
| 17:26.08 | hiya | :) |
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| 17:26.19 | markybob | hiya, this is a good guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-list-and-delete-iptables-firewall-rules |
| 17:26.42 | hiya | markybob, quota do not work work |
| 17:27.04 | markybob | i don't work work either |
| 17:28.12 | hiya | markybob, so I think I just do the same with -D this time? |
| 17:28.13 | hiya | Right? |
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| 17:35.23 | nicolas | Hello |
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| 17:36.19 | nicolas | How can I turn my Linux Mint Debian Edition 2 in a normal Debian ? |
| 17:36.32 | markybob | nicolas, you can't |
| 17:37.12 | nicolas | marky, even by changing sources.list ? |
| 17:37.27 | Mion | nicolas: got a seperate /home? |
| 17:37.29 | markybob | nicolas, no. even by doing that |
| 17:37.47 | nicolas | Mion, yes separate home. |
| 17:37.48 | jhutchins | nicolas: You need to install Debian from scratch. |
| 17:38.08 | Mion | nicolas: delete everything but /home, install debian, ???, profit |
| 17:38.24 | markybob | nicolas, there's no such thing as transferring distributions. |
| 17:38.44 | nicolas | With a separate home, I can replace LMDE2 with any distro, right ? |
| 17:38.49 | Mion | there is, but it is way more work than just doing a reinstall |
| 17:39.26 | markybob | Mion, no, there isn't. you'll have basic things like libc that don't change |
| 17:39.49 | nicolas | Ok,thanks for advice |
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| 17:40.38 | nicolas | I have to think about it. |
| 17:41.03 | nicolas | Many thanks, guys |
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| 17:47.00 | DoctorD90 | guys, how I may set up in fstab to load a partitin at boot, but umount then? |
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| 17:48.06 | somiaj | DoctorD90: what do you mean load at boot then umount? |
| 17:48.18 | somiaj | DoctorD90: i.e. why do you need a partition mounted to be later unmounted? |
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| 17:50.01 | DoctorD90 | somiaj i want to mount a partition (sd card) at boot, because i put keys to unlock system on it. I need to keep it umounted it, because if i phisically click/push to eject sd, it will be not damaged with forced ejecting |
| 17:50.19 | DoctorD90 | at the moment, i have in fstab as mountpoint NONE :P |
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| 17:50.48 | DoctorD90 | on that sd card i have also pamusb. When i use sudo command, pamusb mount partition, check it, then umount it again. |
| 17:51.10 | dontknow | DoctorD90, i think fstab works after decrypt the partition |
| 17:51.18 | DoctorD90 | i need to mount it at boot, to tell at crypttab where are the keys for all luks partitions :) |
| 17:51.56 | DoctorD90 | dontknow on each guide i have read, all people tell to use fstab to set mount point... |
| 17:52.16 | somiaj | DoctorD90: I don't know encrypted partitions enough to have much advise. But I don't think fstab is the answer, the keys need to be available via the initramfs I thought? |
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| 17:52.36 | Not_Jason | Hey |
| 17:52.43 | somiaj | DoctorD90: anyways, what is the common solution when doing this with a key on the usb? (that is one I've seen people do, but don't know how it works). |
| 17:52.47 | DoctorD90 | but later, i will bring it mounted, and due to its use (sd on which i store all keys to unlock pc) i need to eject it phisycally, without waiting for software umounting |
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| 17:53.33 | DoctorD90 | somiaj put keys on /boot partition, or on an external device, and put this external device in fstab |
| 17:54.02 | Not_Jason | Hey, great news. I have registered an account 4 a new channel. If you guys can, try to join and/or spread word, made it today. To join, simply type: /join ChatBox22 |
| 17:54.12 | DoctorD90 | but I may try, but later, i need a way to keep it umounted, so i can push to eject it, without wait fsystem unmountng |
| 17:54.14 | somiaj | DoctorD90: the part you want to do differently is umount the device once the keys are used? |
| 17:54.27 | DoctorD90 | yes |
| 17:54.34 | DoctorD90 | so i can eject it phisically :P |
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| 17:54.41 | jhutchins | Script it. |
| 17:54.41 | dontknow | DoctorD90, you have to enter passphrase before boot |
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| 17:54.54 | Not_Jason | Ummm...I have a question... |
| 17:54.56 | DoctorD90 | and Im not so great with fstab :P somiaj :P |
| 17:55.11 | DoctorD90 | dontknow no if i use keyfiles |
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| 17:55.22 | somiaj | DoctorD90: could you just make an init script (maybe rc-local or systemd unit file) that will unmount the driver after the main parition has been mounted? |
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| 17:55.50 | somiaj | DoctorD90: fstab is not the issue here, its design is only to set up mount points, not say, well this is no longer needed unmount it. You will need to write another script/use another tool for that. |
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| 17:56.14 | DoctorD90 | somiaj but sorry....each time i will push in/plugin sd, system will read fstab and mount sd as written in it 0o |
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| 17:57.28 | DoctorD90 | yea somiaj but at each time i plugin sdcard, system will mount as fstab says....so i'd have to mount/umount :P |
| 17:57.30 | somiaj | DoctorD90: This is not fstab (though maybe the tool honors fstab). This is either udev or some automounting tool that is triggered by plugging in the card to mount it. |
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| 17:57.38 | Not_Jason | Anyone know an active chat channl? |
| 17:57.40 | somiaj | DoctorD90: but there is nothing you can do with fstab to say unmount it. |
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| 17:58.12 | DoctorD90 | automounting.....uhm....yes :P ..automounting is my issue :D |
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| 17:58.44 | DoctorD90 | in description of fstab i read "nouser", "noauto" so i thougth at this one |
| 17:58.48 | somiaj | DoctorD90: this is with what ever desktop automounting tools you use (I personally don't use such things, so I'm not use to things being automounted) |
| 17:59.01 | somiaj | DoctorD90: again this is not fstab, that noauto in fstab is only for 'at boot' |
| 17:59.13 | somiaj | DoctorD90: you have to configure the actual automount tool that is being used on your system. |
| 17:59.29 | DoctorD90 | somiaj so if i need to mount sd card at boot, i need to use auto in fstab, correct? |
| 17:59.37 | somiaj | DoctorD90: correct |
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| 17:59.49 | DoctorD90 | somiaj do you know automount tool under gnome? |
| 17:59.56 | somiaj | DoctorD90: (though unsure if automounters run a script at boot to also mount things not in fstab) |
| 18:00.04 | somiaj | DoctorD90: nope, I'd have to look it up (don't use gnome) |
| 18:00.25 | DoctorD90 | xD i'd use mate....but it is a little strnage with name... |
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| 18:00.48 | DoctorD90 | terminal? no. Mate terminal. other tool? no. mate other tool. it is a little strnage :P |
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| 18:11.26 | jhutchins | DoctorD90: automount would not mount the filesystem during boot. |
| 18:11.53 | DoctorD90 | jhutchins ?? |
| 18:11.58 | DoctorD90 | what do you mean? |
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| 18:13.23 | jhutchins | DoctorD90: Automount runs after boot. This is not the same as auto in fstab, automount is a system that mounts filesystems on demand (and unmounts them when they're not used, it is part of the runtime environment, not the boot environment. |
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| 18:15.49 | jbitdrop | how can i test which dns I use in terminal ? |
| 18:16.23 | pseud | jbitdrop: should be in /etc/resolv ? Oh and you may use nslookup I think (not in *nix atm :'( ) |
| 18:16.25 | DoctorD90 | jhutchins ok, so i can mount wihtout issue auto in fstab, but "automount" use as mountpoint, the one it use in fstab? |
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| 18:16.43 | shingouz | jbitdrop: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:16.52 | no_gravity | Hello! Why does "apt-get install rdiff-backup" install stuff like "libjs-jquery"? |
| 18:17.09 | jbitdrop | shingouz: hi, :) thanks for chiming in! |
| 18:17.20 | gh0stb0y | hello all |
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| 18:17.40 | pseud | no_gravity: off-hand guess - it has a web-ui. Some applications (like Sabnzbd, for example) do that. |
| 18:17.44 | DoctorD90 | jhutchins because now, in fstab i have setted NONE as mountpoint, and automount dont show me partition in nautilus :) and do not keep it mounted during running |
| 18:17.54 | DoctorD90 | no_gravity dependecies :) |
| 18:17.57 | no_gravity | pseud: ah! interesting. |
| 18:18.13 | no_gravity | DoctorD90: sure, but a ton of web stuff? it includes a bunch of those. |
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| 18:18.48 | jbitdrop | shingouz: strange, it seesm that my WICD settings (global DNS) get ignored |
| 18:20.03 | shingouz | jbitdrop: wicd seems to mess up the "normal" network configuration in some weird and wonderful ways. personally i ditched the whole thing after trying to figure out wtf the thing does and where it stores all the settings. i have no clue about wicd beyond that |
| 18:20.15 | allizom | no_gravity: install with --no-install-recommends |
| 18:20.45 | jbitdrop | shingouz: how true that is. I am kind of happy to hera that I am not allone. |
| 18:20.52 | jbitdrop | *hear |
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| 18:21.25 | no_gravity | allizom: yeah. that really should be the defaul.t |
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| 18:22.00 | no_gravity | allizom: should one always install everything with "--no-install-recommends"? i would never expect a command line tool to silently install a web frontend. |
| 18:22.18 | shingouz | jbitdrop: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 18:23.26 | jbitdrop | shingouz: huh ? /msg isnt it an IRC command ? |
| 18:23.31 | allizom | no_gravity: it depends on what you want, you could compare outputs with and without that option. Run with --dry-run to perform a simulation |
| 18:23.32 | shingouz | no_gravity: that depends on how much hd space you have available. if you are short on that, don't install the recommends. you can also set it as default for apt |
| 18:23.36 | shingouz | jbitdrop: yes it is |
| 18:23.41 | jbitdrop | o.O |
| 18:23.45 | jbitdrop | tries that out |
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| 18:32.45 | jbitdrop | shingouz: thx for your help. will play around with this! |
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| 18:46.54 | DoctorD90 | uhm......wrong settings :P |
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| 19:02.13 | kian | hey guys, I just grabbed the netinstall amd64 for a little Intel NUC |
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| 19:02.20 | kian | Ran through installation but usually it prompts to install GRUB |
| 19:02.26 | kian | Didn't do it the past 2 installs... |
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| 19:03.49 | jenia | hello |
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| 19:05.26 | jenia | I watched a video once from a person connected with the debian project. He went through the success rate of the GPL packages for a large part of the video. Does anyone remember that talk? |
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| 19:08.45 | Triski | kian, is Debian the only OS on that intel NUC? |
| 19:08.55 | kian | Yeah |
| 19:08.57 | kian | I re-installed twice |
| 19:08.59 | kian | Installation is fine |
| 19:09.05 | kian | but removing the USB makes nothing be detected |
| 19:09.10 | Triski | is it UEFI? |
| 19:09.19 | f31n | so if i have two servers running, one with dnsmasq forwarding a dns server and netstat is telling me that the server is really runnging on tcp and udp, but i can't reach it from the second server where is the problem? (pinging etc is possible) |
| 19:09.20 | kian | pretty sure yeah |
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| 19:12.02 | Triski | make sure that the installer generates the ESP partition and writes the bootloaders to it |
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| 19:12.39 | kian | Triski, is that an option during installation? |
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| 19:15.17 | Triski | kian, maybe this helps https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#debian-installer_support |
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| 19:26.34 | kian | Triski, https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path |
| 19:26.38 | kian | I see that command at the bottom |
| 19:26.42 | kian | and I'm booted into rescue mode |
| 19:26.48 | kian | however that commands says command not found |
| 19:26.55 | jenia | where can I find the debian project contributors? Lke some of the main people |
| 19:27.55 | dontknow | jenia, irc.oftc.net i believe |
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| 19:28.03 | jenia | thanks |
| 19:28.29 | jbitdrop | shingouz: since there are many possible injects (own settings, wicd settings, resolv setting, router settings) ... is there a website or a command to see which dns I definitely use atm ? |
| 19:29.59 | Triski | kian, i do not have a uefi system at hand now |
| 19:30.12 | Triski | kian, let me try in a virtual machine |
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| 19:31.27 | kian | Triski, huh |
| 19:31.31 | kian | I don't think thats a command |
| 19:31.33 | kian | I think i have to put that somewhere |
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| 19:33.51 | Triski | kian, yes, is an option for the preseeds (scripts for unattended installs) |
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| 19:34.23 | Triski | kian, but you can also install in Expert mode to find an option to force the install of EFI |
| 19:34.39 | kian | Triski, should I just reinstall in expert mode then? |
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| 19:35.04 | Triski | try, i do not have a NUC so cannot say for sure |
| 19:35.33 | bbtech | Why is Synaptic Package Manager showing a lot more packages to upgrade than apt-get dist-upgrade? http://i.imgur.com/v215GhV.png |
| 19:35.54 | Triski | kian, see this link for more info http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/02/linux-on-the-nuc-using-ubuntu-mint-fedora-and-the-steamos-beta/ |
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| 19:36.30 | Filystyn | HELO |
| 19:36.34 | gh0stb0y | hi |
| 19:36.50 | Filystyn | i wanted to ask what internet browsers i can have on debian? |
| 19:36.57 | Filystyn | Is there some terminal one? |
| 19:37.36 | karlpinc | jbitdrop: Use "dig". It'll tell you where the answer comes from. |
| 19:37.41 | Filystyn | ANYONE?! |
| 19:37.42 | dontknow | Filystyn, https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 19:37.57 | bbtech | Filystyn, lynx |
| 19:38.01 | Filystyn | dontknow this is not answer |
| 19:38.03 | Filystyn | lynx? |
| 19:38.04 | dontknow | Filystyn, you can search to see the packages |
| 19:38.13 | Filystyn | lynx is a tex duplicate |
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| 19:38.22 | Filystyn | its not an internet browser |
| 19:38.25 | karlpinc | Filystyn: No, that's lyx. |
| 19:38.29 | Filystyn | oh |
| 19:39.00 | Triski | kian, seems that your NUC has a borked UEFI implementation |
| 19:39.03 | karlpinc | Filystyn: You can also use the debtags system, which is online somewhere, to find browers that match specific criteria. Maybe search the wiki. |
| 19:39.10 | Filystyn | LYHNX IS NICE |
| 19:39.12 | kian | Triski, gonna try a bios update first |
| 19:39.14 | Filystyn | THANK YOU SO MUCH |
| 19:39.16 | Filystyn | God bless |
| 19:39.21 | Filystyn | thsi is what i wanted |
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| 19:41.37 | jhutchins | Filystyn: lynx, links, links2, w3m, elinks, retawk, netrix, I'm sure there are others. More info, Debian specific: https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers |
| 19:41.50 | jhutchins | Filystyn: emacs can also be made to act as a web browser. |
| 19:41.52 | Triski | kian, you should because i cannot beliebe intel made such kind of error in UEFI |
| 19:42.16 | Triski | *believe |
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| 19:42.49 | jhutchins | Filystyn: https://www.w3.org/LineMode/ |
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| 19:44.18 | jbitdrop | shingouz: thanks! i found out it is in the dnsutils package under debian (for others to let know) greetings and mayn thanks for your help! |
| 19:44.22 | jbitdrop | shingouz++ |
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| 19:46.04 | kian | Triski, although the BIOS updated mine from 2013 to 2015 |
| 19:46.10 | kian | did not help our problem |
| 19:46.13 | kian | going to try the linux command snow |
| 19:46.42 | Triski | kian, try in Expert mode, or use the alternative in the website i sent you previously |
| 19:46.52 | kian | yeah the commands from that site |
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| 19:47.12 | Triski | that is , manually copy the /EFI/DEBIAN/*.efi to /EFI/BOOT/ |
| 19:47.37 | Triski | good luck ;-) |
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| 19:52.22 | stasiic | Hello, I am trying to do cross-install Debian from Arch Linux and after doing debootstrap I get an error "Failure trying to run: chroot <path to mount point> mount -t proc proc /proc" |
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| 19:53.50 | petn-randall | stasiic: Any other error message? Is that part running as root? |
| 19:55.05 | stasiic | petn-randall: nope no other errors. And yes it is running as root. |
| 19:55.17 | r3m | Hi, I would like to know which package has required to install libwww-perl |
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| 19:56.27 | petn-randall | r3m: Try using 'apt-cache' for things like that. 'apt-cache search libwww-perl' will show you some results. |
| 19:56.35 | r3m | thanks |
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| 19:57.46 | Filystyn | hmm i checked lynx it's nice but it does work kind of entirely different way than i expected ;-) |
| 19:58.05 | Filystyn | not 100% what i want |
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| 19:58.09 | Filystyn | it's nice tho |
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| 19:59.03 | Filystyn | guess i should probably write my own LOL |
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| 20:00.24 | shomon | hi, I'm on debian wheezy and wanted to know what the best way is to upgrade from here to something newer that will work with this old toshiba laptop.. |
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| 20:01.35 | shomon | On this computer I can't connect to irc with xchat or to owncloud due to ssl errors |
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| 20:15.33 | axk4545 | what version of gnome is debian 8 running? |
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| 20:16.34 | mtn | axk4545: http://packages.debian.org |
| 20:16.42 | cra1g321 | https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 20:16.48 | axk4545 | mtn: oops. duh |
| 20:17.03 | cra1g321 | 3.14 it seems |
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| 20:21.54 | stasiic | petn-randall: Turns out the PATH variable was messed up when debootstrap tried to chroot and mount proc automatically, i fix it by chrooting and mounting manually. But now I see that debootstrap didn't include apt and I cant apt-get when chrooted. Is it supposed to be like that? |
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| 20:26.29 | LambdaComplex | stasiic: are you sure /bin is in PATH? |
| 20:27.03 | LambdaComplex | shomon: Xchat is old and unmaintained. Use hexchat instead for starters :P |
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| 20:28.14 | stasiic | LambdaComplex: It is when after I manually chroot in and set do export PATH:/bin |
| 20:28.44 | LambdaComplex | stasiic: Uh....why are you completely clearing PATH? |
| 20:28.48 | LambdaComplex | Aside from /bin |
| 20:29.10 | stasiic | LambdaComplex: sorry for type. I dot "export PATH=$PATH:/bin" |
| 20:29.25 | stasiic | LambdaComplex: and /bin is there otherwise i wouldn't be able to "ls" |
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| 20:32.11 | shomon | Thanks LambdaComplex I'll try, but I didn't have it in my apt-sources so I thought maybe best to update wheezy directly to something first! |
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| 20:33.59 | stasiic | is apt-get usually located in /bin or somewhere else? |
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| 20:35.19 | sidkid | $ which apt-get |
| 20:35.38 | sidkid | /usr/bin/apt-get |
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| 20:36.36 | stasiic | sidkid: Thank's I don't have apt-get atm so I couldn't do that. |
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| 20:37.04 | petn-randall | stasiic: apt-get is usually in /usr/bin/. Looks like your debootstrap is just installing the bare minimum. |
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| 20:38.29 | Barbara-Ge | sfr ? |
| 20:39.01 | DoctorD90 | evolution or "online accounts" are bugged. They dont sync contacts and calendar from hotmail. |
| 20:39.05 | DoctorD90 | !bug |
| 20:39.05 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 20:41.38 | teraflops | dpkg: file a bug, and suply the steps to reproduce it |
| 20:41.43 | teraflops | :S |
| 20:41.49 | teraflops | DoctorD90: file a bug, and suply the steps to reproduce it |
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| 20:44.44 | stasiic | petn-randall: Seems. I tried debootstrapping with "--include=apt", but that didn't seem to install apt-get either |
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| 20:51.15 | urozavi | Hi |
| 20:51.46 | urozavi | is there any other place than /var/log when sensitive data about my activities may be stored? |
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| 20:54.22 | DoctorD90 | teraflops uhm...im looking at reportbug....but i'd not want use my mail....uff.... |
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| 20:54.44 | DoctorD90 | and i dont know if is a problem of evolution or online account |
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| 20:55.38 | teraflops | DoctorD90: ah well you said !bug ... |
| 20:56.03 | teraflops | DoctorD90: whay dont you explain what the problem is, maybe is not a bug |
| 20:56.14 | teraflops | why* |
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| 20:56.33 | DoctorD90 | teraflops i was testing if exists a !bug trigger :P |
| 20:56.46 | jim | urozavi, if you could say something about the kind of activity... that could lead to instances of logging the things you do... if you find that sensitive and you don't want to reveal such, one place to explore, is the services you run and possibly your auth.log (which shows when logins and sudos etc happen) |
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| 20:57.44 | DoctorD90 | teraflops when you add google account in account online, you will get sync mail, contacts, and calendar. Im doing it with hotmail, but it just sync mail (and documents, even if i cant find them where) |
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| 20:59.00 | DoctorD90 | on phone once i add hotmail account, it sync mail and contact too. So why debian/online acc/evolution sync mail+contact+calendar for google, and not for hotmail? :P |
| 20:59.10 | jim | (more directly, if you don't want to say, we'd have to guess... and rather, I think I'd prefer you to gather info, it's going to be sensitive anyway, if you succeed at finding what you're looking for) |
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| 21:01.10 | teraflops | DoctorD90: ah well, I do not use evolution nor online accounts |
| 21:02.00 | DoctorD90 | lol |
| 21:02.16 | teraflops | DoctorD90: well I told you about asking in general |
| 21:02.23 | shomon | Another problem: Please let me know if there's a better place to ask this:I have a port open and running on this server, and allowed in ufw.. but I can't see it from the rest of my lan.. how can I debug this? |
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| 21:02.32 | teraflops | DoctorD90: not asking to me :P |
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| 21:05.35 | DoctorD90 | xD |
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| 21:05.55 | axk4545 | what is the difference btwn the Debian standard iso and the Debian Gnome iso? |
| 21:06.09 | DoctorD90 | never mind teraflops :P i would just understand if i have to fill bug in evolution or debian online acc P |
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| 21:06.25 | DoctorD90 | axk4545 it should be that standard hasnt graphic env |
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| 21:06.41 | axk4545 | DoctorD90: ok |
| 21:06.48 | DoctorD90 | teraflops what is the package of online acc? |
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| 21:08.02 | teraflops | DoctorD90: apt-cache search online | grep accoun -> gnome-online-accounts - service to manage online accounts for the GNOME desktop |
| 21:09.26 | DoctorD90 | teraflops great ;) so i have to understand if it is a problem of gnome-online-accounts or evolution. |
| 21:09.33 | stasiic | I solved it. In case anyone wondering the only thing I had to do was to make sure that /sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin was in my PATH variable. |
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| 21:30.12 | yui332 | Hello. When I type "ls" in a directory, I sometimes see '...' around the file names. Can somebody explain why this happens? I haven't seen that before tbh, and I started using Debian 3 years ago^^ (see https://paste.debian.net/plainh/398638e6) |
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| 21:31.51 | donofrio | anyone here using logitech harmony 676, need to reset the username and then what use concordance? |
| 21:32.21 | frostschutz | yui332, ls --version? if it's coreutils 8.25 it's a "feature" |
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| 21:32.41 | yui332 | frostschutz: yes, 8.25 |
| 21:32.48 | yui332 | frostschutz: what does it mean? :D |
| 21:33.15 | frostschutz | yui332, man ls, /--quoting-style, pick your poison |
| 21:33.34 | yui332 | frostschutz: thanks |
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| 21:44.39 | Triski | hi all! |
| 21:44.52 | Triski | kian, did you managed to get your NUC working? |
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| 21:45.02 | kian | Triski, running into some weird problems now |
| 21:45.08 | kian | Okay let me explain |
| 21:45.09 | kian | So... |
| 21:45.20 | kian | Intel few months back added the BIOS update |
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| 21:45.32 | kian | and now there is an option to just disable UEFI boot completley and any OS thinks UEFI is non-existent on the system |
| 21:45.50 | kian | But now when I try to do debian netinstall or livecd install |
| 21:45.56 | kian | It just pops up with an error somewhere throughout the install |
| 21:45.58 | kian | "Couldn't find kernel" |
| 21:46.03 | kian | "System halted at installing sources..." |
| 21:46.30 | Triski | you reinstalled after that change? |
| 21:46.35 | kian | Yeah |
| 21:46.40 | kian | This is after disable UEFI boot and installing... |
| 21:46.46 | kian | I've tried everything but cannot get it to work... |
| 21:46.56 | kian | I think I'm going to try a UBuntu livecd and see if it even installs. |
| 21:47.05 | Triski | how you wrote your bootable media? |
| 21:47.09 | kian | unetbooting |
| 21:47.13 | kian | I haven't changed that |
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| 21:47.19 | karlpinc | kian: You can go to the alternate vts and do diagnostics. Check what disks exist, etc. |
| 21:47.22 | kian | when UEFI boot was disabled it would install fine just not boot afterwards... |
| 21:47.49 | Triski | unetbootin from windows? |
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| 21:48.33 | karlpinc | Triski: People here say unetbootin is ungood. Better to come back during the week and get more expert help. |
| 21:48.50 | donofrio | what .deb provides libhidapi-libusb? feels like a already have it but configure cannot find it? |
| 21:49.01 | karlpinc | kian: Of course, if you're using unetbootin, that that could be the problem right there. |
| 21:49.11 | Triski | karlpinc, i know |
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| 21:49.53 | Triski | kian, if you are working on windows to create the bootable media i would recommend you to use Rawrite32 |
| 21:49.56 | Triski | https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/download.html |
| 21:49.59 | karlpinc | donofrio: I always use dpkg -S to find the package that goes with an installed file. But there's a faster way. I forget. See the <search> factoid. |
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| 21:50.30 | cra1g321 | win32diskimager works fine |
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| 21:53.39 | donofrio | karlpinc: got that resolved now this one? configure: error: Package requirements (libzip) were not met: ? |
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| 21:56.06 | donofrio | karlpinc: libzip2 *is* installed fwiw |
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| 21:57.54 | pseud | Examining the kernel version installed by debian I see 3.16-7-ckt20. What does the latter mean ? is it a patchset ? And if so, is such a patchset available for more recent upstream kernels ? |
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| 22:01.25 | donofrio | nevermind debain rocks - both packages were already in repo's no need to compile thank you good folks. |
| 22:04.11 | donofrio | so help, my required apps are now installed but get an error? http://apaste.info/cx4 "ERROR: Couldn't initializing libconcord: Error connecting or finding the remote" ;( |
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| 22:05.29 | MaxLanar | hi. I experience some network issues... My internet connection on my debian box is "freezing" regularly, i.e. the downloads stops, I can't ping anything but, very strangely, the uploads (torrent) are going on. This happen regularly enough to make the internet unusable. I don't have that issue with other devices connected at the same time on the same network... |
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| 22:05.39 | gh0stb0y | hekki |
| 22:05.40 | MaxLanar | How can I investigate this ? |
| 22:06.22 | markybob | MaxLanar, does this occur when your torrent client is not running? |
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| 22:07.43 | socomm | MaxLanar: Are you behind a router? |
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| 22:08.35 | MaxLanar | markybob : I don't know if this occur only when my torrent client is running (I will test that) |
| 22:09.12 | markybob | MaxLanar, that'd be my first try. torrent clients tend to be overzealous |
| 22:09.34 | aleksa | I've recently reinstalled Debian Jessie and I've followed https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo . I successfully installed proprietary drivers for my AMD graphic card. However, I am not satisfied with it and now I switched my VGA cable to inboard graphic card. On boot it just doesn't show anything. Actually, there is minus, and I can access TTY. |
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| 22:10.05 | markybob | aleksa, pull out the card |
| 22:10.06 | aleksa | how to switch to internal graphic card? |
| 22:10.07 | markybob | aleksa, easy fix |
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| 22:11.00 | aleksa | markybob, but configuration files would have remain untouched if I'd removed it. |
| 22:11.45 | MaxLanar | socomm : I am behind a mini-router ( http://www.tp-link.fr/products/details/cat-9_TL-WR702N.html ) |
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| 22:12.38 | markybob | aleksa, doesn't much matter. you don't need an x config file for x to work with default/internal cards |
| 22:12.43 | MaxLanar | socomm : set in bridge mode, my debian box (as the other devices) are with static ip |
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| 22:13.23 | MaxLanar | (the mini router is in bridge mode) |
| 22:13.27 | aleksa | markybob, are you saying that removing my graphic card would automatically fix the problem? |
| 22:13.44 | markybob | aleksa, probably. i'm saying that'd be what i'd do. |
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| 22:14.27 | aleksa | I would rather discuss about all possibilities now than to turn the PC off, remove it, turn it on and be stuck on black screen again. |
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| 22:14.48 | markybob | aleksa, okay. wait and see if someone else responds. i won't be hurt :) |
| 22:15.01 | aleksa | Do I need to install Intel graphic drivers first? |
| 22:15.47 | markybob | aleksa, xserver-xorg-video-intel and firmware-linux-nonfree are always a good idea |
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| 22:17.04 | MaxLanar | markybob, the issue remain without any torrent client... |
| 22:17.08 | aleksa | ok. I'll give it a try. |
| 22:17.18 | aleksa | Would resetting X help me? |
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| 22:18.07 | socomm | MaxLanar: See if there are any IP conflicts. |
| 22:18.51 | socomm | MaxLanar: I've had similar scenario where I had set static IP on my desktop and my DHCP server had handed out the same IP to my printer - causing intermitent network drops on my desktop. |
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| 22:22.18 | aleksa | Ok. Anything else I should know before removing graphic card? |
| 22:22.27 | aleksa | Any idea about what log files to copy? |
| 22:22.38 | aleksa | What to type in terminal? etc. |
| 22:23.44 | MaxLanar | socomm : ok, I changed the ip, I will see if it remains better (it's often better when I just reconnect, I have to wait to see if this is lasting) |
| 22:24.02 | MaxLanar | socomm, thank you for your advice :) |
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| 22:25.25 | ecom | What's the command that allows you to click on a running program to get it's name? You'd type something into terminal and then the cursor changes to a crosshair and you can click any open programs to get information on it. |
| 22:25.29 | MaxLanar | socomm, (but so far it seems faster and no freeze :) |
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| 22:26.21 | socomm | MaxLanar: Good luck. |
| 22:27.06 | socomm | ecom: xwininfo |
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| 22:28.18 | ecom | socomm: thank you |
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| 22:44.38 | Aleksa | http://paste.debian.net/377870/ this is my log file |
| 22:44.53 | Aleksa | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.06 | Aleksa | removing the card didn't solve the problem |
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| 22:46.54 | Aleksa | Come on, guys. Reinstalling the entire OS over one small driver installation fix is not good. |
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| 22:55.38 | Jonnyw2k | aleksa just unplug the card |
| 22:55.43 | Jonnyw2k | or disable it in the bios |
| 22:56.16 | Jonnyw2k | oh they left |
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| 23:04.11 | DrOwl | Hi All, is there an equlivant of update-notifier for XFCE in Jessie? I have just been doing update/upgarde when i remember too it would be nice to have an automated grapical version though |
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| 23:04.37 | ar | hi. i have a problem with a fresh debian stable install from debootstrap: http://dpaste.com/0SE1XVD.txt - i cannot install perl because "perl : Depends: perl-base (= 5.20.2-3+deb8u2) but 5.20.2-3+deb8u3 is to be installed" and then it tells me that i have broken packages held, but i have *no* held packages |
| 23:04.59 | cafuego | DrOwl: Not extactly what you were asking for, but cron-apt will sort you out via email |
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| 23:05.35 | jelly | ar: no security.debian.org repo enabled? |
| 23:05.37 | cafuego | DrOwl: See also `unattended-upgrades` |
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| 23:05.54 | DrOwl | cafuego: Thanks for the suggestion ill go look at those two |
| 23:06.05 | jelly | dpkg, tell ar about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 23:06.29 | jelly | dpkg, tell ar about jessie sources.list |
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| 23:08.03 | ar | jelly: i do have security.debian.org repo enabled |
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| 23:12.04 | ar | jelly: ah, nvm. i had broken pins for stable vs security in preferences.d |
| 23:12.23 | jelly | !win ar |
| 23:12.23 | dpkg | Congratulations, ar! You have won a one way ticket to Rio de Janeiro! |
| 23:12.34 | dvs | zika! |
| 23:13.43 | BinBasher | w..wwhat? :o |
| 23:14.05 | BinBasher | Damn it, why do I never win anything. |
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| 23:43.41 | iio7 | I am experiencing a strange "hanging" with ssh trying to connect to different servers, yet without doing anything but hanging. I did a strace: http://paste.debian.net/377877/ |
| 23:43.59 | iio7 | Seems like it is hanging on "read" something? |
| 23:44.26 | jim | is your dns resolution working ok? |
| 23:44.35 | DrOwl | iio7: could it just be the remote end trying to do a reverse lookup on you |
| 23:44.40 | iio7 | yes. |
| 23:45.06 | iio7 | Actually, I just deleted /tmp/gpg-* and now it connects. |
| 23:45.09 | iio7 | Strange. |
| 23:45.58 | ar | iio7: check "env". you might have gpg/ssh-agent environment variables set |
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| 23:48.39 | snowblind_ | obama tried out his last year |
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| 23:53.52 | jelly | snowblind_: this is a tech support channel; keep your discussion and comments to getting help or providing help about Debian issues, please. I'll assume you accidentally in wrong channel. |
| 23:54.29 | purplehead | where can I find the visualizations and screensavers such as projectm in Jarvis? seems to be missing since 16alpha2 |
| 23:56.35 | jelly | purplehead: wrong channel, too? |
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| 23:57.04 | snowblind_ | sorry |
| 23:57.46 | snowblind_ | i have debian stretch and i love it |
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| 23:58.35 | pingfloyd | does aptitude and apt-get use the same cache (e.g., if I ran apt-get update, is aptitude also up to date or vice-versa?) |
| 23:58.44 | jelly | pingfloyd: yes |
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| 23:58.52 | pingfloyd | thanks for answering that |
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