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| 00:10.10 | zerick | Hi folks, I'm having a weird behaviour with Thin webserver. Every time I reboot, directory /var/run/thin (which I created manually) changes it permissions to root. This happened with Wheezy and with Jessie after upgrading it (same server). |
| 00:10.20 | zerick | Do you have any idea? |
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| 00:19.02 | jegarcia | ahhh @all |
| 00:19.05 | jegarcia | the game i was on about |
| 00:19.09 | jegarcia | was called xrick |
| 00:19.10 | jegarcia | ! |
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| 00:19.27 | jegarcia | it compiles even today since we got sdl1.2 in apt |
| 00:19.35 | jegarcia | god bless backwards compat |
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| 00:20.12 | jeezy | xargs: ping |
| 00:20.16 | TechChristoph | #!/bin/bash |
| 00:20.16 | TechChristoph | egrep --color ^[0-9]{4} postalcodes.txt >> newpostalcodes.txt |
| 00:20.24 | TechChristoph | i work with a shell script |
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| 00:20.34 | TechChristoph | this command does nothing |
| 00:20.52 | TechChristoph | did i miss something |
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| 00:22.09 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: quote marks |
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| 00:22.31 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: where |
| 00:22.33 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: '^[0-9]{4}' |
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| 00:22.38 | TechChristoph | ah ok |
| 00:22.40 | TechChristoph | thanks |
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| 00:28.00 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: quote marks don't get the solution |
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| 00:28.06 | kgjd | what's the best ettercap |
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| 00:28.11 | TechChristoph | mhm |
| 00:28.23 | kgjd | i just found a special Reaver that detects AP limiting |
| 00:28.47 | kgjd | which has me wondering why certain distros even release with reaver |
| 00:28.54 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: `egrep --color '^[0-9]{4}' postalcodes.txt >> newpostalcodes.txt` doesn't work? |
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| 00:29.07 | kgjd | because ALL new routers enact AP limiting |
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| 00:29.11 | kgjd | ?????? |
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| 00:31.13 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: no doesnt work |
| 00:31.19 | kgjd | if 90+% of new wifi routers block wps attacks with mac detections and ap limits |
| 00:31.31 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: what's not working? |
| 00:31.42 | kgjd | why does it even make sense for debian distros to be released with Reaver |
| 00:31.44 | LambdaComplex | well, there's the fact that (us) postal codes are 5 digits long, not 4 |
| 00:32.10 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: well i use swiss postal codes |
| 00:32.12 | LambdaComplex | which may or may not be your problem |
| 00:32.14 | LambdaComplex | okay :P |
| 00:32.23 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: so you're just trying to match 4-digit strings of numbers? |
| 00:32.27 | themill | !mwe |
| 00:32.27 | dpkg | If you can provide us with a *minimal* working example of something that doesn't work, then we have a much better chance of being able figure out what is wrong. A few lines of bash/perl/python/latex/etc in a <pastebin> makes it much easier for us to understand and investigate the situation. You might need to include sample input and output too. |
| 00:32.36 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: it just takes the original file and puts it into another |
| 00:32.40 | kgjd | also Fern Wifi Cracker keeps saying my wifi card isn't in monitor mode |
| 00:32.43 | kgjd | even though it is |
| 00:32.58 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: i want only the 4 digit numbers yes |
| 00:33.07 | kgjd | is this a dual band issue?? |
| 00:33.23 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: grep prints the entire line |
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| 00:33.43 | kgjd | i have a wifi card with lots of debian issues on google |
| 00:33.45 | LambdaComplex | TechChristoph: try the -o flag |
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| 00:33.54 | kgjd | but none related to my specific problems |
| 00:34.26 | kgjd | although one message board backtrack posting said something about dual band issues |
| 00:34.34 | kingkong | how do you prevent an user to view or go upper than his /home user dir ? |
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| 00:34.46 | kgjd | it's an ath9k ; Atheros 9285 |
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| 00:35.10 | kgjd | also my HDMI audio keeps resetting to off when i restart |
| 00:35.40 | kgjd | also my hdmi screen keeps turning off the tv with 1 minute inactivity |
| 00:35.47 | kgjd | and it's not the TV settings |
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| 00:36.14 | kgjd | must be something lock screen related? |
| 00:36.16 | kgjd | i doubt it |
| 00:36.21 | TechChristoph | LambdaComplex: thanks \0 / it helped |
| 00:36.52 | DoctorD90 | guys, playing with openssh i have find out an outdated info on wiki, but system cant leave me create account. at who i have to ask to create 1? |
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| 00:37.49 | kgjd | http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/white_paper_c11_603839.html |
| 00:38.03 | kgjd | im looking for an ettercap alternative to this mitigation |
| 00:38.05 | markybob | DoctorD90, what's the outdated wiki? what did you do to create the user? what was the error? |
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| 00:39.33 | DoctorD90 | markybob: i have just click on register, i fill rhe form and it said "due to spam accoint creation not allowed. send email at..." so im asking here before starts with email :P |
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| 00:40.29 | DoctorD90 | it is outdated about new algorithms usable :) i d like to improve it (i was reading it in my native lang) |
| 00:41.52 | markybob | DoctorD90, what you said made no sense. |
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| 00:44.04 | DoctorD90 | uff...language barrier... |
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| 00:45.37 | DoctorD90 | i tryed to create account on wiki but it refuses me telling that i have to write at mail. So anyone if present can create an account? markybob |
| 00:46.00 | themill | DoctorD90: you can ask on #debian-www on irc.oftc.net -- it's not exactly the right time of day to find active people though |
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| 00:47.15 | DoctorD90 | themill: i hoped to not connect at another network XD but if there isnt possibility.....i will do :P thx!!! |
| 00:49.06 | markybob | DoctorD90, i completely misunderstood. i thought you were following a wiki on creating a system user for use with openssh. if you link me to the wiki and tell me what you think is wrong i'd be happy to update it for you. or you can wait. whichever. |
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| 00:50.25 | DoctorD90 | markybob: it is in my native language :P i havent check out if it is outdate also in other :P.. and from mobile phone is a little boring xD just a second that i check |
| 00:50.45 | kgjd | um? hello |
| 00:50.57 | kgjd | anyone here know something about Debian? |
| 00:51.09 | Jenco | just a little :P |
| 00:51.23 | kgjd | ;__; |
| 00:52.02 | themill | kgjd: I can't actually find your question because it's broken up across so many line and contains lots of irrelevant stuff. A self-contained question is much more likely to get an answer. |
| 00:52.31 | kgjd | what's the best ettercap |
| 00:52.36 | kgjd | mod |
| 00:52.58 | DoctorD90 | markybob: checked. it is outdated in english too...but id like to update it by me if this is possible :D id like to give me hand on debian :) |
| 00:53.01 | kgjd | because normal ettercap is obsolete |
| 00:53.13 | markybob | DoctorD90, cool |
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| 00:54.17 | kgjd | Superior Mac address changing, And AP limiter detection and circumvention on REAVER |
| 00:54.20 | kgjd | do you speak it |
| 00:54.22 | ddssx | can someone help me shut this nigger up? |
| 00:54.25 | kingkong | how do you restrict an user to his own dir on shell or sftp? to not view or go upper than his /home user dir ? |
| 00:54.43 | kgjd | ur nan |
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| 00:55.04 | kgjd | D: |
| 00:55.12 | DoctorD90 | lol..... well done |
| 00:55.35 | kgjd | all hail lord, themill! |
| 00:55.38 | DoctorD90 | kingkong: the easiest thing is chmod |
| 00:55.52 | kgjd | destroyer of the exotic punanny |
| 00:56.01 | kgjd | slayer of big booty |
| 00:56.18 | kgjd | take my bitch dex god |
| 00:56.24 | themill | umm, moving on, thanks |
| 00:56.26 | kgjd | swag |
| 00:56.47 | DoctorD90 | another is sshd config to allow users to keep looked/jailed in their home |
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| 00:58.06 | kingkong | DoctorD90: i found a command but wanted to ask here before run. if i will run chmod o-x /home/* command as root, it will restrict all users to their home dirs? |
| 00:59.03 | DoctorD90 | i dont remember xD sorry xD im in bed, at 1inch from my female's dream god xD |
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| 00:59.29 | kingkong | right now, all users can view each another but i dont want it |
| 00:59.58 | themill | kingkong: "can view each other" meaning what? |
| 01:00.51 | kingkong | they can view upper than their /home/user dirs |
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| 01:00.59 | themill | why is that an issue? |
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| 01:01.34 | kingkong | and view their command history or confs |
| 01:01.35 | themill | If the fact that they can see that there are other users on the box is an issue, then you're not going to be able to prevent that, really. |
| 01:01.37 | markybob | kingkong, you realize they cant go into other users' dirs, right? unless you changed something |
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| 01:01.56 | markybob | kingkong, no they cant |
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| 01:03.29 | themill | kingkong: the default configuration is to put each user in their own group; you can remove the ability for others to enter the directories (chmod o-rx /home/*) |
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| 01:05.48 | kingkong | i dont know. i checked user dirs had 755 . that doesnt mean they can view other user dirs? |
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| 01:06.44 | markybob | kingkong, no. my user dir is drwx------ |
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| 01:07.30 | kingkong | and i checked it. i login as user and could view root dir or www dir index files, mail dir etc. so, better restrict all users to their own dir. |
| 01:07.30 | ar | Hi. Why is synergy in debian (even sid) so old (1.4.something), when latest version is 1.7.something or 1.8 and fixes numerous bugs present in old synergy? (one of them being https://github.com/symless/synergy/issues/3126)? |
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| 01:07.46 | kgjd | all hail Dexgod 420! |
| 01:08.16 | themill | kingkong: no, you can very simply change the permissions on /home/*. |
| 01:08.28 | kgjd | pulling booty apart like groceries since 1877 |
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| 01:08.40 | DoctorD90 | yea!! account created :D |
| 01:08.57 | KhazAkar | ar It's Just Debian thing or find repo with newer synergy |
| 01:09.11 | markybob | DoctorD90, i'm still curious at what you're changing |
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| 01:09.38 | kingkong | markybob: how can i check a user's permitions? |
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| 01:10.09 | kingkong | themill: chmod o-x /home/* or chmod o-rx /home/* ? |
| 01:10.11 | DoctorD90 | :D dont edit it! i will do :D... btw it is, as i said, just an update :) it is on ssh :) |
| 01:10.19 | themill | kingkong: either |
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| 01:10.28 | markybob | DoctorD90, i'm not going to |
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| 01:10.36 | DoctorD90 | i hope to do it from phone....let's chexk |
| 01:10.36 | zylinx | Please help, i followed the steps to install ATI proprietary drivers and now when i start my laptop the screen stays blank :( |
| 01:11.09 | themill | kingkong: you'd probably also want to change /etc/adduser.conf to reflect that for new users |
| 01:11.22 | kingkong | themill: i will run chmod o-x /home/* as root user ? |
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| 01:12.55 | Abbott | when I run `sudo python SiCKRAGE.py --daemon` it runs fine, but when I use this init script, it doesn't end up running: http://pastebin.com/raw/EYs5ZhPu |
| 01:13.12 | Abbott | The service will say it's up, but when i ps aux | grep python, SiCKRAGE.py isn't up |
| 01:13.33 | Abbott | is there anything visibly wrong with the init script? |
| 01:13.35 | zylinx | I ran: aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') fglrx-driver |
| 01:13.44 | zylinx | Is there any way to undo this? |
| 01:13.58 | kingkong | themill: what will i do on /etc/adduser.conf file exactly ? |
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| 01:21.17 | DoctorD90 | markybob may you check i didnt bad stuff? https://wiki.debian.org/it/SSH |
| 01:22.21 | markybob | DoctorD90, i don't speak italian :P no idea |
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| 01:23.26 | DoctorD90 | markybob: no i mean, can you do a diff betwen versions? i would not like break style in page :P |
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| 01:23.51 | DoctorD90 | i go to edit eng too |
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| 01:27.45 | DoctorD90 | done....due to kind of mods....i can do also in Deutsch.... i go to do it in fr bedore... |
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| 01:34.42 | zylinx | Anybody :(? |
| 01:35.44 | DoctorD90 | markybob :D done!!!! italian, english and francais :D |
| 01:35.51 | DoctorD90 | yea!!! |
| 01:36.28 | jim | zylinx, got another machine?\ |
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| 01:37.34 | jim | also, does ctrl-alt-F1 do anything? |
| 01:38.11 | jim | hmm, no response |
| 01:39.24 | zylinx | No machine |
| 01:39.29 | zylinx | Just my phone |
| 01:39.43 | zylinx | I get a terminal with ctrl alt f1 |
| 01:40.21 | zylinx | Im trying to follow a guide to uninstall the fglrx drivers but my package manager cant find them |
| 01:40.34 | jim | you could log in as root, and do whatever (uninstall stuff, restore what you had) |
| 01:40.52 | zylinx | Ie: sudo apt-get purge fglrx* |
| 01:40.58 | jim | how did you install them? |
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| 01:41.05 | zylinx | I used aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') fglrx-driver |
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| 01:42.18 | jim | so you build the module with fglrx in it? |
| 01:42.28 | zylinx | I have no idea |
| 01:42.44 | zylinx | I just ran that command and hit "Y" |
| 01:42.54 | jim | hmm |
| 01:43.07 | zylinx | It asked to install a bunch of packages with the word fglrx in them |
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| 01:43.16 | zylinx | But now apt-get doesnt see them |
| 01:44.01 | jim | maybe you could look at the output of dpkg --get-selections | grep fglrx | less |
| 01:44.58 | zylinx | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uiIMfSTM/irccloudcapture1178757083.jpg |
| 01:45.06 | zylinx | jim ^ |
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| 01:46.56 | jim | can you... apt-get install nopaste and run the same command, but feed to nopaste instead of less |
| 01:47.39 | jim | output of that should have a web url at the end (and possibly some err msgs) |
| 01:49.17 | zylinx | 3789836 |
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| 01:49.39 | zylinx | http://paste.debian.net/378936 |
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| 01:56.52 | zylinx | jim? |
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| 03:41.00 | asterismo | hi, will debian run on celeron N3050 cpu? |
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| 03:42.47 | rww | don't see why not |
| 03:43.34 | rww | looks like it'll work with both i386 and amd64, even |
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| 03:44.56 | jim | asterismo, how much unallocated/unpartitioned disk space do you have? |
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| 03:46.07 | jim | also, the 280 mb netinstall images can be DDed to a usb stick and booted, if your machine can boot usb |
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| 03:51.35 | tvon | Where can I submit changes to the installation guide? |
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| 03:52.46 | themill | that's in the document itself |
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| 04:07.36 | fawe | I just installed debian on vbox, and sftp to it is painfully slow. did exactly the same with centos, and it's ok. any ideas what gives? |
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| 04:09.23 | lesta | fawe: did you install the addictions or whatever is the name? |
| 04:09.33 | fawe | yep, addictions all sorted |
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| 04:09.54 | fawe | wget from online is fast, but sftping to it locally is 10 kB/s |
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| 04:12.18 | lesta | funny, my vboxes are fast ... I use sftp to ssh server, maybe setup |
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| 04:13.17 | lesta | btw, what vbox? the debian one or the one from oracle? |
| 04:13.35 | fawe | it's on a windows host |
| 04:13.58 | lesta | ok, maybe we are OT here |
| 04:14.29 | fawe | am still blaming debian since centos installation is fine :) |
| 04:15.37 | lesta | good |
| 04:15.47 | dvs | !blame fawe |
| 04:15.47 | dpkg | blames NaPs and fawe for the end of the world as we know it |
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| 05:10.57 | NoCode | https://wiki.debian.org/PostfixAndSASL -- Will this also work in Debian 8? |
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| 05:32.23 | mdim | hi folks |
| 05:32.40 | mdim | is there a way to figure out how many packages in Debian have at least some C/C++ code? |
| 05:33.39 | LambdaComplex | probably most of them |
| 05:34.49 | Elronnd | Aside from manually downloading the source and grepping for .c/.cc/.cpp files, probably not |
| 05:35.10 | mdim | LambdaComplex: I'd like to find a way of getting exact numbers |
| 05:36.56 | mdim | Elronnd: how do I get a list of all packages in e.g. Sid? |
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| 05:37.30 | mdim | I'm thinking of downloading source code for each package and searching for .c/.cc/.cpp files |
| 05:37.35 | themill | apt-file search -a source -x -l '.*\.c' |
| 05:37.53 | themill | season to taste. |
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| 05:39.51 | Elronnd | mdim: source files for *each* package? |
| 05:40.00 | themill | yeah, please don't do that |
| 05:40.23 | Elronnd | mdim: I have little doubt that were you to do that, your hard drive would fill before you got to %5 of all the package |
| 05:41.15 | themill | also http://sources.debian.net/stats/ |
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| 05:42.49 | mdim | Elronnd: well, I could delete each package after searching it |
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| 05:43.53 | mdim | themill: thanks a lot! |
| 05:44.26 | mdim | this would do as well - the overall number of lines of code in C and C++ |
| 05:46.02 | themill | Do contact the maintainers of sources.d.n if you need additional data -- there's a chance it's a simple SQL query away. |
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| 05:55.31 | mdim | themill: thanks for the suggestion! |
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| 06:28.06 | Haxxa | Should there be any more in my sources.list apart from this: http://pastie.org/pastes/10711912/text?key=buntibthnh36mcuwzxnmug |
| 06:28.21 | Haxxa | I think I might have deleted some line by mistake |
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| 06:33.40 | hiya | How often is Debian backport updated? |
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| 06:34.32 | hiya | for example Intel's driver in backport? |
| 06:35.12 | themill | Haxxa: that's enough, but /msg dpkg jessie sources.list |
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| 06:37.19 | Haxxa | themill, thanks |
| 06:37.23 | Haxxa | also why is this happening |
| 06:37.24 | Haxxa | Failed to fetch http://dl.bintray.com/tvheadend/deb/dists/jessie/Release Unable to find expected entry 'jessie/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) |
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| 06:38.50 | themill | you have some other wrong entry in your sources.list{,.d} |
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| 06:41.32 | Haxxa | themill, Can't find it :( nothing in source.list.d and only entry in sources is of what I need to install |
| 06:41.56 | themill | perhaps you can pastebin the full output of 'apt-get update' |
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| 06:46.49 | Haxxa | themill, http://pastie.org/private/ae2meaq3bkvkxawpnyvprg# |
| 06:47.18 | themill | !show sources.list Haxxa |
| 06:47.19 | dpkg | Haxxa: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} |
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| 06:48.23 | cheapie | Haxxa: That repository doesn't provide sources, but you're set to download them. |
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| 06:50.14 | Haxxa | themill, http://pastie.org/private/fheonlbgjuftzei8virqaa & |
| 06:50.15 | Haxxa | head: cannot open ‘/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*’ for reading: No such file or directory |
| 06:50.24 | Haxxa | I have nothing in there ;) |
| 06:50.26 | themill | so line 15 |
| 06:51.03 | Haxxa | themill, Commented out but same error |
| 06:51.13 | themill | doesn't believe that |
| 06:51.24 | cheapie | Can you pastebin it with it commented out? |
| 06:51.37 | Haxxa | themill, Ok I'll prove it posting now |
| 06:52.09 | Haxxa | http://pastie.org/private/nztoexpnr6egultczeq7g |
| 06:52.22 | cheapie | I think there's an extra "jessie" in there. |
| 06:52.31 | cheapie | (the non-commented one) |
| 06:52.32 | themill | that would make a different error though |
| 06:53.01 | Haxxa | cheapie, fixed |
| 06:53.09 | cheapie | themill: Probably "Failed to fetch http://dl.bintray.com/tvheadend/deb/dists/jessie/Release Unable to find expected entry 'jessie/source/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)" or something, so quite similar. |
| 06:53.19 | themill | yes |
| 06:53.22 | cheapie | Haxxa: Great to hear! |
| 06:53.59 | Haxxa | cheapie, I followed word to word what a guide suggested and it is wrong - |
| 06:54.01 | Haxxa | sudo apt-add-repository "http://dl.bintray.com/tvheadend/deb DISTRO BUILDTYPE" |
| 06:54.09 | Haxxa | distro should be obmitted |
| 06:54.25 | cheapie | has never used apt-add-repository |
| 06:54.48 | Haxxa | plans never to use add-apt-repo.. again |
| 06:54.55 | Haxxa | beter to handle by vi |
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| 06:56.18 | cheapie | installs the package with apt-add-repository so he can poke at it and see how it behaves |
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| 06:57.30 | cheapie | Yeah, according to the man page, it just appends whatever you give it to sources.list. |
| 06:57.51 | cheapie | Might as well just put it manually in sources.list at that rate. |
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| 07:24.48 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ello great guys, here is early at time to see the sunshine on horizont. gretting all! |
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| 08:11.32 | irchea | hi can you invoke a script after every full apt-get upgrade? |
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| 09:02.17 | tvon | irchea: dpkg has hooks, I believe |
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| 09:03.50 | irchea | yeah but that will call the script for each package |
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| 09:04.28 | irchea | i need something at apt level. that catch the upgrade as 1 thing |
| 09:04.31 | rueda | I want to know if some of you can boot an installed version of debian not an installation, from a certified usb3 flash drive, I tried with debian 8.1 and 8.2 and simeply can't only usb2.0 |
| 09:05.11 | irchea | certified by who? |
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| 09:07.21 | Hunterkll | uhm |
| 09:07.32 | Hunterkll | i have multiple debian bootable flashdrives that are 'full installs' and not 'live distros' |
| 09:07.36 | Hunterkll | i'd ask what you're doing wrong, first |
| 09:07.54 | Hunterkll | note: I am pre-systemd, if that matters..... and am staying that way. |
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| 09:11.02 | rueda | certified |
| 09:11.03 | rueda | please |
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| 09:12.36 | rueda | Hunterkll, what is pre system d debiain from a usb3.0 cerftified flash drive? not fake 3.0 that is 2.0 |
| 09:12.55 | b_jonas | Hello. Something is wrong. I'm attempting to install a new jessie system. When I halt it, it gets all the way to "System halted" but then doesn't power off the machine (probably just halts the kernel). What should I do to debug this? |
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| 09:16.25 | deego | What's your security checklist? Am I missing anything in this list to ensure packages are fully patched: (1) apt-get upgrade. (2) checkrestart (3) check-support-status, (4) reboot-required-notify (5) make sure removed packages are actually purged. make sure you don't have old packages from old releases, make sure packages actually have associated sources. (6) vrms. |
| 09:16.59 | notmentor | b_jonas, What's your system? |
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| 09:17.49 | notmentor | deego, Read the security update changelogs? |
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| 09:18.14 | deego | notmentor: ++ |
| 09:18.17 | b_jonas | notmentor: it's an amd64 pc. which part do you need? the halting works perfectly with the old squeeze-based (although very customized) system on the same machine. |
| 09:18.43 | notmentor | b_jonas, Possibly something to do with a new kernel and ACPI support? |
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| 09:18.53 | notmentor | b_jonas, Are you using UEFI? |
| 09:20.15 | b_jonas | notmentor: I don't think it uses UEFI, because it's an older motherboard, but I'm not sure how to tell what the linux is trying. The jessie is running a debian kernel, the squeeze is running my custom kernel, but I can test it with the debian kernel too if it helps. |
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| 09:21.26 | notmentor | b_jonas, You would have to boot the machine in UEFI mode |
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| 09:21.56 | b_jonas | notmentor: how do I do that? I don't know how this fancy new UEFI works. |
| 09:22.27 | notmentor | b_jonas, If you haven't explicitly done it, it's in BIOS mode |
| 09:22.43 | b_jonas | notmentor: yep, and I don't think this old computer even has UEFI mode |
| 09:23.00 | b_jonas | ok |
| 09:23.15 | b_jonas | so in that case, how do I debug the ACPI thing? |
| 09:23.42 | notmentor | b_jonas, My first port of call would be to check the kernel log for interesting messages, incl. during boot |
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| 09:24.07 | b_jonas | notmentor: good idea, I'll check that |
| 09:27.06 | b_jonas | ah indeed, there are ACPI errors |
| 09:27.23 | b_jonas | ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU1._PDC] (Node ffff88003dc32c20), AE_INVALID_TABLE_LENGTH (20140424/psparse-536) |
| 09:27.32 | b_jonas | ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating Sleep State [\_S2_] (20140424/hwxface-580) |
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| 09:28.10 | b_jonas | whereas my current system doesn't say that |
| 09:28.14 | b_jonas | hmm |
| 09:28.35 | notmentor | b_jonas, Yup, that looks like it would do it |
| 09:29.21 | b_jonas | this is worrying, because even though I eventually want to build a new kernel, which might fix it, it just shouldn't happen and maybe other things won't work too (I haven't tested much about that system yet) |
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| 09:32.07 | notmentor | b_jonas, It sounds like it may be an erroneous DSDT; there may be compatibility fudges to make it work |
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| 09:32.36 | Hunterkll | rueda, what are you even saying? |
| 09:32.40 | Hunterkll | usb acts like usb |
| 09:32.57 | Hunterkll | no matter the 'link speed' or whatever you're claiming |
| 09:33.01 | Hunterkll | they all act the same |
| 09:33.29 | Hunterkll | if it negotiates 3.0 to the controller, it is running at 3.0 speed |
| 09:33.39 | Hunterkll | the flash controller might not be able to keep up, but otherwise, it all acts the same |
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| 09:34.11 | rueda | Hunterkll, |
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| 09:34.27 | rueda | Hunterkll, I can boot from usb=2.0 not 3.0 there is a missing drive on debian |
| 09:34.30 | Hunterkll | rueda, i've never treated any flash drive differently when constructing a bootable install on it |
| 09:34.32 | rueda | until 8.2 at least |
| 09:34.37 | Hunterkll | sounds like you have a controller issue |
| 09:34.41 | Hunterkll | not a flash drive issue |
| 09:35.07 | rueda | both my laptop and desktop boot from 2.0 not 3.0 |
| 09:35.11 | Hunterkll | sounds like your UHCI drivers work, but not your XHCI drivers |
| 09:35.14 | rueda | on both debian 8.2 and 8.1 |
| 09:35.19 | Hunterkll | or your kernel doesn't have the appropriate support |
| 09:35.38 | rueda | but my kernel is the official kernel available from download |
| 09:35.44 | b_jonas | Unrelated question. The installer set up my two swap partitions to be mounted with priority -1 and -2 respectively. But man swapon says that the priority should be at least 0 or at least -1, depending on the version. How does this works? |
| 09:35.45 | notmentor | rueda, That sounds like a BIOS issue |
| 09:35.47 | Hunterkll | that means nothing to me |
| 09:35.48 | rueda | that's why I'm asking if some of you can boot and how you did it |
| 09:36.01 | Hunterkll | rueda, i built a standard bootable USB and it just works? |
| 09:36.16 | rueda | notmentor, probably but who has successfully boot from a usb3.0 that's what I want to know |
| 09:36.18 | Hunterkll | again, sounds like a UHCI vs XHCI issue |
| 09:36.26 | notmentor | rueda, I have |
| 09:36.29 | Hunterkll | rueda, i boot off of USB 3.0 blu-ray discs ... i mean .... |
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| 09:36.36 | Hunterkll | I boot off USB 3 flash all the time |
| 09:36.40 | Hunterkll | same with HDDs |
| 09:36.47 | notmentor | rueda, There is no difference beyond the host controller between 3.0. and 2.0 |
| 09:36.50 | b_jonas | I'll probably override the priority later, because the two are on different disks and I know which one I want with higher priority, but it looked strange. |
| 09:36.50 | Hunterkll | I have a 4TB external i use as a portable system |
| 09:36.55 | notmentor | rueda, The filesystem and data does not care |
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| 09:37.05 | Hunterkll | kernel or firmware |
| 09:37.07 | Hunterkll | that's where your issue is |
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| 09:37.17 | Hunterkll | or some udev jackery |
| 09:37.25 | rueda | my issue? |
| 09:37.35 | Hunterkll | who knows? regardless, the individual flash drive negotiates to the controller |
| 09:37.39 | Hunterkll | and presents itself as a mass storage device |
| 09:37.44 | Hunterkll | a very, *VERY* generic interface |
| 09:37.46 | rueda | you said you can boot from 3.0 but installed or instalation? |
| 09:37.51 | Hunterkll | both |
| 09:38.07 | Hunterkll | I've built custom USB rescue systems for various tasks |
| 09:38.17 | Hunterkll | hell, i've got a bootable gentoo flash drive, and a bootable LFS-like built drive |
| 09:38.18 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 09:38.21 | notmentor | It's possible that the controller on your flash drive is rubbish too |
| 09:38.25 | Hunterkll | ^ |
| 09:38.46 | Hunterkll | I have one flash drive I use purely for a pre-configured portable kernel development environment when i'm traveling |
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| 09:39.30 | Hunterkll | hell, go to microcenter and get a $8 usb3 16gb drive, i bet it'll work better.... |
| 09:39.43 | Hunterkll | but definitely sounds controller issue like |
| 09:40.08 | rueda | controller of the flash drive? |
| 09:40.18 | notmentor | rueda, The bit that talks USB |
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| 09:40.39 | Hunterkll | then again, i have a few flash drives that won't work on a 3.0 port on windows... it happens |
| 09:40.43 | rueda | I'll buy another usb3, my usb3 is a sandisk |
| 09:40.44 | notmentor | rueda, Flash drives mostly consist of a single controller chip, and 1 or more flash chips |
| 09:40.57 | Hunterkll | notmentor, i think he's having XHCI issues, but that's jus tme |
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| 09:41.09 | Hunterkll | if forcing the kernel to only operate as UHCI or lower works |
| 09:41.19 | Hunterkll | a sandisk should be solid |
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| 09:41.30 | Hunterkll | if you didn't buy it on ebay, that is :P |
| 09:41.40 | notmentor | rueda, Have a look at your kernel log messages while plugging the device in? |
| 09:41.43 | rueda | I bought it from wallmart |
| 09:41.46 | rueda | at 1am |
| 09:41.50 | notmentor | rueda, Not using a cable with it, are you? |
| 09:41.51 | Hunterkll | meh that should be god |
| 09:41.53 | Hunterkll | good |
| 09:42.01 | Hunterkll | rueda, counterfiet abound on ebay, heh |
| 09:42.07 | Hunterkll | retail in the US is *usually* ok |
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| 09:42.18 | jegarcia | hi |
| 09:42.23 | notmentor | There are counterfeit chips |
| 09:42.30 | notmentor | Even counterfeit flash chips |
| 09:42.49 | notmentor | Some kernel developer blogged about some at some point |
| 09:43.00 | rueda | and about the kernel logs I've connected the usb3 when debian was bootaed and the lspci didn't report any modules added |
| 09:43.13 | rueda | it can read it but when I want to boot from it it wont' |
| 09:43.53 | Hunterkll | rueda, you already have the mass storage and xhci loaded at that time |
| 09:43.54 | Hunterkll | heh |
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| 09:44.29 | rueda | k I'll just get another 3.0 what brand and model that you know is 3.0 and can boot you have |
| 09:44.50 | Hunterkll | uhm |
| 09:44.59 | Hunterkll | i have everything from sandisk to generic store brands |
| 09:45.13 | Hunterkll | i do build my own kernels, though, but that shoudln't matter here... shouldn't |
| 09:45.21 | notmentor | b_jonas, The fstab entries for swap ignore some of the columns |
| 09:45.27 | Hunterkll | hm |
| 09:45.37 | Hunterkll | rueda, when you try and boot it, what's the resulting error? |
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| 09:45.47 | Hunterkll | vfs_root failure? |
| 09:45.49 | notmentor | rueda, Is it your BIOS that will not recognise the flash drive? |
| 09:46.03 | Hunterkll | notmentor, i'm half tempted to think it's a faulty fstab now, lol |
| 09:46.08 | notmentor | rueda, Or is it once Linux has started booting? |
| 09:46.17 | rueda | notmentor, bios can see it it can boot until grub but not past grub |
| 09:46.31 | Hunterkll | well, that means the flash drive is working |
| 09:46.32 | rueda | Hunterkll, I get a initramfs prompt and a message saying it can't wait for root |
| 09:46.44 | Hunterkll | that's ... |
| 09:46.45 | Hunterkll | that's past grub |
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| 09:46.55 | Hunterkll | yup, it doesn't know where root is |
| 09:47.06 | Hunterkll | does it drop you into an initramfs shell? |
| 09:47.11 | rueda | yea |
| 09:47.13 | Hunterkll | find out what your flash drive shows as in there |
| 09:47.20 | notmentor | rueda, Right, at least some data is successfully being read from the flash drive then |
| 09:47.22 | Hunterkll | then pass root=/dev/blah |
| 09:47.27 | Hunterkll | as a kernel parameter |
| 09:47.30 | Hunterkll | you'll probably work |
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| 09:47.48 | Hunterkll | your FSTAB/install is pointing at a root volume that probably doesn't exist (as the device has moved/changed after install) |
| 09:47.49 | rueda | I tried but can't remember all I think it can see everything related to grub but not the rest for example /home |
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| 09:48.01 | notmentor | Is the problem maybe because the root device is not where the initramfs thinks it should be? |
| 09:48.03 | Hunterkll | literally, having the right root= will probably fix you |
| 09:48.09 | Hunterkll | notmentor, that's precisely what it sounds like |
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| 09:50.50 | rueda | to both, the kernel parameters are set with uuid |
| 09:50.59 | Hunterkll | which may have changed..... |
| 09:52.00 | rueda | Hunterkll, I tried minimal kernel parameters with only a few lines I tried this with debian forum people |
| 09:52.27 | rueda | I think I checked and it was the same uuid |
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| 09:53.29 | Hunterkll | so fuck the UUID |
| 09:53.33 | Hunterkll | use /dev/sdX# |
| 09:53.40 | rueda | I could |
| 09:53.42 | Hunterkll | just get it working first |
| 09:53.51 | notmentor | NWA's less successful B-side |
| 09:54.03 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 09:54.03 | b_jonas | notmentor: actually, fstab doesn't set the swap priority at all. I looked at the output of swapon -s. |
| 09:54.30 | b_jonas | So it's not the installer, but probably swapon (util-linux) or the kernel. |
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| 09:56.23 | rueda | Hunterkll, k so I'll do that, I am checking forum post and someone wrote my usb gets absent during boot process not before it starts |
| 09:56.39 | notmentor | b_jonas, My swapon man page doesn't saying anything about priority having to be at least 0, but it does say that valid priorities are in the range -1 to 32767 |
| 09:57.02 | notmentor | b_jonas, I fear that is the limit of my knowledge on the matter |
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| 09:57.38 | b_jonas | notmentor: yes, I said at least 0 or at least -1 depending on the version |
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| 09:58.05 | rueda | Hunterkll, I set up a test grub.conf and put set root='(hd0,msdos2)' |
| 09:58.35 | rueda | Hunterkll, how can I do it with dev instead |
| 09:58.56 | notmentor | rueda, The grub root is different from the linux root |
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| 10:00.41 | Hunterkll | uh? |
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| 10:00.49 | Hunterkll | rueda, if you're talking about the kernel parameter |
| 10:00.55 | Hunterkll | i just use root=/dev/sda2 |
| 10:00.57 | Hunterkll | etc |
| 10:01.02 | Hunterkll | not grub paremeters |
| 10:01.13 | Hunterkll | your grub is already working since it can load the kernel |
| 10:01.16 | Hunterkll | and the kernel can load the initrd |
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| 10:05.59 | rueda | I don't think the kernel loads |
| 10:06.04 | rueda | but initrd does |
| 10:06.09 | rueda | I thought initrd was first |
| 10:06.30 | rueda | notmentor, so my entry was right then? |
| 10:06.47 | rueda | I confirmed that was the right entry way back then |
| 10:07.27 | Hunterkll | ..... |
| 10:07.28 | Hunterkll | rueda, initrd is loaded by kernel .... |
| 10:07.28 | Hunterkll | to load storage modules and pivot into root |
| 10:07.28 | Hunterkll | if you didn't have a kenrel you wouldn't have a shell outside of grub.. |
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| 10:07.45 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 10:07.48 | rueda | omg |
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| 10:08.09 | rueda | so I used ls during initramfs and got (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) |
| 10:08.16 | Hunterkll | well, i should clarify - kernel and initrd are loaded at hte smae time |
| 10:08.24 | Hunterkll | ... ls doesn't show grub style devices |
| 10:08.26 | rueda | I used on grub.conf the one with msdos2 |
| 10:09.00 | Hunterkll | unless you never reached kernel |
| 10:09.06 | Hunterkll | which means you were always in grub shell |
| 10:09.32 | rueda | when the usb gets absent it can at least load initramfs |
| 10:09.55 | Hunterkll | if ls is showing grub style device entries, you're not in the initrd minimal system |
| 10:10.01 | Hunterkll | because then you'd have a functional kernel |
| 10:10.51 | rueda | so you're saying I loaded kernel? then why is root not loading |
| 10:11.00 | Hunterkll | .... |
| 10:11.05 | Hunterkll | i'm saying you're not being lear |
| 10:11.06 | Hunterkll | clear |
| 10:11.15 | Hunterkll | if ls is showing grub style devices, you didn't |
| 10:11.20 | Hunterkll | if you're in initrd, you did |
| 10:11.29 | ewew | because it does not know where to find it. you need to define it by boot parameter root=/dev/sdX |
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| 10:11.47 | ewew | or find the cause of this issue. |
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| 10:12.59 | rueda | ewew, that boot parameter I set in grub menu? |
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| 10:13.19 | rueda | or where |
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| 10:41.52 | FSX | Hi |
| 10:42.08 | FSX | The software center says that the screenshots all invalid. |
| 10:42.37 | FSX | Every screenshot, from all applications. |
| 10:42.50 | FSX | Does someone know what might be wrong? |
| 10:43.08 | at0m | FSX: screenshots isn't developers and packagers highest priority ;) |
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| 10:44.07 | FSX | at0m: Ok |
| 10:44.21 | at0m | it's safe to assume very few them use software center or any graphical installer |
| 10:44.35 | at0m | so most people can't see screenshots anyway |
| 10:44.49 | at0m | *few of them |
| 10:45.34 | FSX | Yea, but, for example, Darktable has 4 screenshots (I see 4 gray boxes). |
| 10:45.41 | FSX | Someone added them. |
| 10:46.05 | at0m | sure, there will be some. but i woldn't take them for granted, or current |
| 10:46.22 | FSX | Ok |
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| 10:46.48 | FSX | Oh, it's gnome-software. I thought it was from Debian. |
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| 10:47.14 | at0m | FSX: really, the debian way is apt/apt-get/aptitude |
| 10:47.46 | FSX | Yes, I usually use that. |
| 10:47.54 | FSX | But it bugs me that it doesn't work correctly. |
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| 10:48.22 | FSX | And wondered if someone here might know more about it. :) |
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| 10:49.21 | at0m | "doesn't work correctly", you mean the screenshots? |
| 10:49.51 | FSX | Yes |
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| 10:52.43 | FSX | at0m: Thanks your your answer. I'll be going now. |
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| 11:36.06 | hargut | Hello. |
| 11:37.28 | hargut | I'm looking for a tool that copies & converts music files. A lot of my music is stored as flac files, which cannot be played back on my car-radio, so I'd like to copy & convert on the fly to mp3. Does anyone of you have a suggestion for me? Can be command-line as well. |
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| 11:44.21 | notmentor | hargut, sox? |
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| 11:49.59 | hargut | notmentor: Could be a solution, but would involve some scripting... I'd rather like to take something "finished", including tag handling and so on. |
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| 11:52.54 | hargut | "The FUSE module transcodes the FLAC files to the lossy format during the file-access operation." Sounds interesting. |
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| 11:53.27 | hargut | mp3fs - FUSE filesystem for transcoding FLAC to MP3 on the fly |
| 11:54.45 | jelly | kde had something like that in their gvfs years back, you could access CD audio tracks as .flac or .mp3 "directly" |
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| 11:55.00 | hargut | https://github.com/khenriks/mp3fs Let's try that. |
| 11:55.21 | hargut | Looks simple as well: mp3fs -b 128 /mnt/music /mnt/mp3 -o allow_other,ro |
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| 12:02.47 | hargut | Cool, does what it says. Files are converted on the fly, all FLAC tag fields are as well stored in the mp3. Looks like what I've searched for. |
| 12:03.33 | hargut | The only 'disadvantage' I could find is that according to the man-page only fixed bitrates are supported. But that's no real problem. |
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| 12:09.19 | jastrahm | Hey guys, I'm running into this weird problem with bitwig and bspwm, for some reason I cannot click and drag anything in bitwig when I'm using bspwm/sxhkd. I've tried bitwig in spectrwm and it works fine. |
| 12:09.34 | jastrahm | Not sure how to fix this or what's even causing it. |
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| 12:21.37 | shomon | hi, I-m trying to get the spanish layout to work on this keyboard. I-ve selected and highlighted a keyboard which has ntilde where I am now getting ;;;; but in the keyboard layout display there is an ntilde.. |
| 12:22.14 | shomon | does anyone have a working ntilde on their screen_)___?>? or even question mark where it should be.. and why does the region and language config screen show a different keyboard layout and say it-s selected_? |
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| 12:29.03 | phre4k | does Debian have something similar to SUSE Studio? I want to deploy Debian on a few machines and want to set up the packages before (make my own installer?), but dpkg-selections is pretty annoying. |
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| 12:30.38 | sh00p | phre4k, I don't know if there is a debian specific way for this but tools like chef can do what you want |
| 12:30.43 | LiberoRadichelli | phre4k: can you create a custom task for tasksel? |
| 12:31.15 | themill | creating a custom metapackage that you install to bring in what you want is pretty trivial |
| 12:31.38 | themill | (so is dpkg --set-selections) |
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| 12:36.05 | phre4k | LiberoRadichelli: that's a nice idea |
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| 12:36.40 | phre4k | thing is, I need custom repositories (our own one) and custom configurations. The latter I could do with the package... |
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| 12:39.37 | shomon | ah.. sorry I-m here trying to sort out this keyboard still.. I-ve seen that in the keyboard layout settings I can type everything as per the layout image, but when I switch to xchat or to a textbox it switches to some other one.. how do I get this one to stop overriding the other_? |
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| 12:43.21 | Triski | hi all |
| 12:45.17 | themill | phre4k: sounds like you're dangerously close to reinventing chef or puppet or salt or … |
| 12:46.35 | phre4k | themill: Ansible? :D |
| 12:46.38 | phre4k | I use this! :p |
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| 12:46.56 | phre4k | but only for servers, we don't have a solution for clients yet |
| 12:47.09 | phre4k | --get-selections and --set-selections wasn't it apparently |
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| 13:04.39 | ubik123 | helo, is there a possibility to active two finger scrolling for touchscreens in gnome? |
| 13:04.45 | ubik123 | *activate |
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| 13:49.47 | awal1 | How to list disabled systemd unit services with systemctl? |
| 13:50.36 | awal1 | Or where can I see all those units I have disabled? |
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| 14:01.14 | dutchfish | awal1, systemctl list-unit-files |
| 14:01.38 | dutchfish | awal1, grep is your friend |
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| 14:11.50 | awal1 | dutchfish: okdutchfish: ok, thanks. I have seen 'list-unit-files' in mn but haven't understood the exact meaning. thanks |
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| 14:12.30 | dutchfish | awal1, np, yw |
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| 14:20.26 | anigma | Howdy! I accidentally managed to create a RAID with mdadm where I forgot to include the partitions (I only added the disks). Is there a way to reconfigure this with mdadm? |
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| 14:23.13 | frostschutz | anigma, with or without keeping the data on the raid? |
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| 14:28.03 | pushpop | my debian install boots right to grub all of a sudden - how does one fix this? |
| 14:28.27 | mtn | pushpop: what did it do before? |
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| 14:29.06 | pushpop | mtn: # mount -o rw,remount / |
| 14:29.06 | pushpop | mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda1 read-write, is write-protected |
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| 14:29.28 | pushpop | I couldn't right to my fs before I rebooted |
| 14:29.32 | pushpop | now I'm going right to grub |
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| 14:30.20 | anigma | frostschutz: I'd like to keep the data |
| 14:30.29 | mtn | pushpop: so it stops booting at the grub menu or ....? |
| 14:30.31 | anigma | if not, I have no problem redoing it |
| 14:30.44 | pushpop | mtn: I'm at the grub prompt |
| 14:30.51 | pushpop | mtn: no idea how to use grub =/ |
| 14:30.57 | geoffmcc | i think i already know the answer to this, but I just wanted to confirm. If I wanted to install weechat 1.4-1 while on Jessie I should probably do so from backports rather than stretch, right? |
| 14:31.25 | mtn | pushpop: is this a legacy or uefi boot? |
| 14:31.41 | pushpop | mtn: it'sa VPS i'm guessing legacy |
| 14:31.58 | mtn | pushpop: ok, not sure how to help with that |
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| 14:32.11 | pushpop | =( |
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| 14:34.58 | frostschutz | anigma, The traditional approach is, kick one disk out, mdadm --zero-superblock it, partition it, re-add the partition, sync. rinse and repeat. |
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| 14:35.32 | anigma | ahh |
| 14:35.58 | frostschutz | anigma, if it's 1.1/1.2 metadata with a large enough data offset you might get by without the sync, by moving the metadata and reducing the data offset accordingly; but if you make an error your data is gone |
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| 14:37.54 | jelly | oops |
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| 14:48.56 | geoffmcc | ok, so I went with my gut and used backports for weechat rather than stretch. Im guessing the reason it is called 1.4-1~bpo8+1 in backports is because it has been modified to work for jessie, whereas in stretch it is just 1.4-1? |
| 14:51.53 | Zarthus | geoffmcc: https://weechat.org/download/debian/ |
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| 14:52.29 | JyZyXEL | does debian have any convenient way to sandbox a browser? |
| 14:52.55 | JyZyXEL | it is insane running a browser under your default user that has access to _EVERYTHING_ |
| 14:53.04 | geoffmcc | Zarthus: thanks, but im just trying to find out if i have a proper understanding of this |
| 14:53.17 | Zarthus | geoffmcc: ah, alright |
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| 14:54.11 | Dirkos | I installed a .deb package for libpng16.so.16 which is now available at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng16.so.16 |
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| 14:54.27 | Dirkos | But while running the program i receive: error while loading shared libraries: libpng16.so.16: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 14:56.53 | ninecheddar | hey guise quick question, I'm running 8.3 w/Cinnamon in a windows 7 VM (Virtualbox), and it refuses to leave software mode |
| 14:57.24 | ninecheddar | it briefly mentions the virtualbox additions not found or something to that effect, any ideas? |
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| 14:58.50 | mtn | ninecheddar: is 3d turned on in the video settings? |
| 14:59.01 | ninecheddar | yep :D |
| 14:59.03 | notmentor | JyZyXEL, SELinux? |
| 14:59.16 | mtn | ninecheddar: you should install the guest additions |
| 14:59.17 | JyZyXEL | notmentor: firejail |
| 14:59.24 | notmentor | geoffmcc, bpo: backports.org |
| 15:00.46 | ninecheddar | googled sites recommend installing build-essential and module-assistant which where not found |
| 15:01.07 | notmentor | JyZyXEL, That sounds terrible, but then I only know its name |
| 15:01.27 | notmentor | Dirkos, Is libpng16 installed? |
| 15:01.47 | Dirkos | notmentor: well i install that .deb package i found |
| 15:01.53 | JyZyXEL | notmentor: it's a program specifically built for sandboxing firefox, chromium and vlc |
| 15:02.12 | JyZyXEL | uses all the fancy kernel isolation/virtualization stuff |
| 15:02.14 | notmentor | Yeah, that sounds terrible |
| 15:02.34 | notmentor | shrugs |
| 15:02.36 | notmentor | I don't know anything |
| 15:02.37 | JyZyXEL | no, no, you got it all wrong |
| 15:02.45 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't _sound_ terrible |
| 15:02.51 | JyZyXEL | the implementation is probably terrible ;) |
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| 15:03.05 | JyZyXEL | in practice that is |
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| 15:06.00 | mebus | Hi! What do I have to do to make my changes in /etc/network/interfaces active? |
| 15:06.07 | mebus | (Debian Jessie) |
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| 15:07.26 | BinBasher | reboot I guess? no idea |
| 15:07.43 | BinBasher | -> have you tried turning it off and on again? :P |
| 15:08.03 | enel | mebus service networking restart |
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| 15:14.43 | mebus | enel: thanks |
| 15:14.44 | johnny0 | ninecheddar: try grabbing linux-headers-amd64 package (or the appropriate x86 package if you aren't running x86_64) and dkms -- it should bring in everything you need to build the kernel modules for the guest additions |
| 15:15.39 | Atomic_3 | is it possible to create folders in archive file when taring? |
| 15:15.52 | Atomic_3 | I bet it's impossible |
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| 15:19.01 | fiveflowerzz | Any idea about how to start mplayer automatically on boot, with a systemd service? |
| 15:19.10 | fiveflowerzz | I'm fighting since 2 hours with this... |
| 15:19.10 | fiveflowerzz | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/260592/start-radio-with-systemd-service |
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| 15:24.19 | debitux | hi, anybody running exim4? |
| 15:24.21 | debitux | i'm trying to allow "+" suffix, so me+bla@domain goes to me@domain. how do i do that? i tried to add local_part_suffix = +* and local_part_suffix_optional to the configs in conf.d/routing but mails are still "not routeable" |
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| 15:35.26 | enel | fiveflowerzz: take a look at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=51956 |
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| 15:37.32 | pycoderf | hello all. is adding a subdomain the best way to host internal dns? example: int.example.com for inside with example.com as outside |
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| 15:50.24 | digidog | uit |
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| 15:56.05 | phre4k | awal1: systemctl list-unit-files | grep disabled |
| 15:56.14 | phre4k | if nobody answered you yet |
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| 16:01.13 | awal1 | phre4k, yeah, thats what I did yet, thanks, anyway : |
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| 16:10.51 | THEFATHER | hi,everybody |
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| 16:12.35 | THEFATHER | debian,to dest system,maybe? |
| 16:13.09 | markybob | THEFATHER, what's a dest system? |
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| 16:14.57 | PowerKiller | Signature not found in user keyring |
| 16:14.57 | PowerKiller | Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private' |
| 16:14.58 | PowerKiller | why? |
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| 16:15.18 | PowerKiller | During ecryptfs-migrate installation |
| 16:15.27 | PowerKiller | ecryptfs-migrate-home -u pre |
| 16:15.31 | PowerKiller | this is what I am using |
| 16:15.57 | PowerKiller | pre@example:~$ ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase |
| 16:15.57 | PowerKiller | Passphrase: |
| 16:15.58 | PowerKiller | 0a6bf76d8d6a358b32cac9ca29f4df41 |
| 16:15.59 | PowerKiller | somehow this |
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| 16:28.17 | pycoderf | any bind people here? having some trouble with my domain |
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| 16:28.58 | markybob | pycoderf, there is #bind |
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| 16:30.43 | mrstabby | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:32.34 | pycoderf | markybob: #bind seems dead. people but no activity |
| 16:32.49 | Guest7548 | how can dpkg list installed packages by apt source? |
| 16:32.57 | markybob | you can try. |
| 16:33.01 | markybob | !tell pycoderf about ask |
| 16:33.38 | Guest7548 | `dpkg --get-selections` doesn't tell the source, and dpkg is not aware of apt sources |
| 16:33.45 | markybob | Guest7548, you cant. apt-get -b source is the same as apt-get install |
| 16:34.22 | Guest7548 | markybob, thx. |
| 16:34.34 | petemc | !which repo |
| 16:34.35 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try https://www.palfrader.org/gitweb/?p=tools/weaselutils.git;a=blob_plain;f=apt-listrepository or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list> |
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| 16:35.02 | Guest7548 | petemc, thanks!! |
| 16:35.10 | petemc | np |
| 16:35.10 | pycoderf | bind thinks i have no ns recors but i clearly do |
| 16:35.36 | markybob | pycoderf, pastebin your stuff and ask a reasonable question like the bot told you to |
| 16:36.19 | pycoderf | i am following a digitalocean guide for setting up an internal dns server and come to following configs. but bind thinks i have no ns records. can anyone spot the screw up? https://bpaste.net/show/72a892f32b29 |
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| 16:37.17 | markybob | pycoderf, it would be helpful if you posted the real configs instead of example.com |
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| 16:38.25 | pycoderf | markybob: those are the configs i am using |
| 16:38.28 | pycoderf | i am testing with example.com |
| 16:38.29 | pycoderf | thanks |
| 16:38.51 | markybob | that makes no sense |
| 16:39.15 | pycoderf | and why not? i posted a legit question as asked and youd id nto provide legit answers |
| 16:39.43 | markybob | okay then. if that's how you feel i'll shut up. |
| 16:40.24 | petemc | pycoderf: your configuration specifies debian-dns.int.example.com. |
| 16:40.28 | pycoderf | also just stating "makes no sense" is horribly unhelpful |
| 16:41.17 | markybob | i wasn't done talking but you decided to have an attitude. listen to petemc |
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| 16:42.07 | pycoderf | petemc: so i got my configs to validate but when i do a dig on the name it does not return the ip |
| 16:42.18 | pycoderf | but instead says icann for the authority |
| 16:42.20 | DoctorD90 | markybob, :D i edited 3 language :D on 4 :D i have checked from pc :) i havent break nothing. Just I dont know 2 stuff: 1.how may I set notice for 1 topic, and why in the article is linke the openbsd site, instead of the official openssh |
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| 16:42.25 | DoctorD90 | do you know? |
| 16:43.07 | DoctorD90 | https://wiki.debian.org/SSH |
| 16:43.18 | DoctorD90 | ref number 3 vs mine (4) |
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| 16:46.19 | TomTomTosch | DoctorD90: because it's the OpenBSD Secure Shell. It also referes to the openssh site on the wiki page. |
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| 16:47.09 | DoctorD90 | so it would be better if i point at openbsd site than openssl? |
| 16:47.19 | DoctorD90 | or it is just the same |
| 16:47.20 | DoctorD90 | ? |
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| 16:48.01 | pycoderf | markybob: petemc https://bpaste.net/show/cbcdeb7ec748 more details |
| 16:50.46 | TomTomTosch | DoctorD90: where exactly did you see that? the wiki links to the openssh site. |
| 16:51.49 | DoctorD90 | TomTomTosch, last nigth, when i update that page, i added the 4th reference, after a quickly search. Copying pasting the previous add i have seen about the different link |
| 16:51.57 | DoctorD90 | i have checked and both have same files |
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| 16:52.15 | DoctorD90 | i just to learn how to edit the wiki :) |
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| 16:57.59 | anigma | anyone here familiar with targetcli? |
| 16:58.08 | dvs | !ask |
| 16:58.10 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:58.20 | anigma | indeed, sorry! |
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| 16:58.48 | Sayona | Hi, how in install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql in debian? |
| 16:58.58 | Sayona | becouse the packet not exist |
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| 17:03.45 | Mikaze | Hello. Just dist-upgrade'ed from Squeeze to Jessie and am getting the error: "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libdevmapper1.02.1'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details." Any idea how to resolve this? I have no idea how to configure this library or whatever it is. |
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| 17:05.42 | DoctorD90 | Mikaze, you should from my knowledge, update from squeeze to wheezy, from wheezy to jessie :) |
| 17:05.52 | Mikaze | The one thing I can't afford to do is lose the ability to keep the speakup kernel module working with my hardware speech synthesizer. Won't be able to use the computer at all then. |
| 17:06.00 | jelly | Mikaze: skipping releases is not supported |
| 17:06.31 | DoctorD90 | thx jelly to confirm my knowledge :) now i stay safer :) |
| 17:06.35 | jelly | Mikaze: did you do it in two steps , squeeze to wheezy, then wheezy to jessie, or some other way? |
| 17:06.48 | Mikaze | So, upgrade to wheezie first, or hwoever it's spelled? |
| 17:07.07 | jelly | dpkg, squeeze->wheezy |
| 17:07.08 | dpkg | Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian 6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>. |
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| 17:07.24 | jelly | dpkg, tell Mikaze about wheezy release notes |
| 17:07.34 | jelly | that'd be the first step |
| 17:07.44 | Mikaze | K. |
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| 17:08.12 | Mikaze | Soon as I chase down the spelling of wheezie on the screen. <laughs> |
| 17:08.25 | jelly | Mikaze: ends with a y |
| 17:09.07 | Mikaze | Thanks. Will hopefully be back later... |
| 17:09.30 | DoctorD90 | jelly, ....i was thinking.... it is possible to install debian 1.0 ? |
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| 17:09.52 | DoctorD90 | today? for merely learning target? |
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| 17:09.56 | jelly | !release history |
| 17:09.56 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after "Toy Story" characters. Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06), Wheezy(7; 2013-05-04), Jessie(8; 2015-04-25). The next release will be Stretch. http://deb.li/it56U |
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| 17:10.12 | jelly | DoctorD90: no, there's no such thing |
| 17:10.34 | DoctorD90 | yea! Buzz! |
| 17:10.48 | DoctorD90 | i'd like to test 1996 version of debian :D |
| 17:11.27 | jelly | you'll have to find compatible physical or virtual hw platform |
| 17:11.54 | DoctorD90 | yea yea....skipping compatibility :P i was talking about, how install a buzz system :P |
| 17:12.08 | DoctorD90 | if i run netinst, it install latest version. |
| 17:12.24 | DoctorD90 | i dont know if are still available oldest version |
| 17:12.27 | DoctorD90 | like buzz |
| 17:12.42 | jelly | you'll need floppies. |
| 17:13.05 | DoctorD90 | hehe....yea, but my point is : is there on official repositories? |
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| 17:16.38 | jelly | DoctorD90: no, look at archive.debian.org |
| 17:16.46 | DoctorD90 | i go! |
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| 17:17.46 | DoctorD90 | yea! find out :D |
| 17:17.49 | DoctorD90 | great ^_^ |
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| 17:18.22 | DoctorD90 | lol...i dont know how to install it xD |
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| 17:19.44 | jelly | DoctorD90: the fun is in finding out |
| 17:19.56 | DoctorD90 | yea :D gotcha my point ^_^ |
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| 17:20.29 | DoctorD90 | im from 90', but i know installing stuff only after winXP...so this kind of stuff is "new" for me :D |
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| 17:22.16 | Guest7548 | is there a way to download packages from alternative repositories e.g. when on sid download the package from jessie without adding the rep source to apt-get sources.d file? |
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| 17:23.07 | castrox | anyone have any clue why netstat shows the wrong name for localhost?.. where does it read from? |
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| 17:27.21 | Thieh | Question: Is there a way to do install so the user choose login/password/root password after reboot? |
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| 17:28.26 | jelly | DoctorD90: find the boot and root floppies, start with those |
| 17:28.26 | dontknow | Thieh, no |
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| 17:29.01 | jelly | DoctorD90: and teach yourself about dselect |
| 17:29.53 | dvs | dselect?!? |
| 17:29.54 | dvs | hides |
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| 17:30.48 | Mikaze | He's bAAAAAAaaaaaack... Trying to aptitude dist-upgrade to wheezy from squeeze, it get the errors: "open: 9691; closed: 27361; defer: 28; conflict: 32 o" and haven't a clue how to fix this. apt-get doesn't work at all and quits. Let it run? |
| 17:31.35 | jelly | Mikaze: did you manage to have any packages from jessie installed during your previous attempt? |
| 17:32.09 | jelly | if you did, that would break the system in unpredictable ways |
| 17:32.14 | Mikaze | Yes. but I did a squeeze update and then a dist upgrade back to squeeze. |
| 17:32.33 | DoctorD90 | jelly, dselect? ok! thx man! :D now i know what i will do this summer :D |
| 17:32.35 | jelly | Mikaze: the dist-upgrade command does not work like that at all |
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| 17:33.03 | jelly | Mikaze: I suggest a reinstall. |
| 17:33.12 | Mikaze | Crap. |
| 17:33.31 | jelly | next time, read the release notes please |
| 17:33.46 | jelly | dist-upgrade is not "run this command to do a release upgrade" |
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| 17:35.36 | jelly | Mikaze: you really want to read the release notes because they document steps that need to be done before and after that, and they tell you common breakages that may happen going from a release to release+1 |
| 17:35.43 | Mikaze | There needs to be a simple "install-wheezy command that wipes everything and starts from scratch. <laughs> Would make things a whole lot simpler. |
| 17:36.08 | jelly | it's called "boot the wheezy installer" :-) |
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| 17:36.39 | Mikaze | Might as well boot the jessie installer then. |
| 17:36.39 | jelly | but if you're going to install anew, you might as well install the current one, debian 8 (jessie) |
| 17:36.45 | jelly | right |
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| 17:38.25 | Mikaze | nods and makes the many efforts to save the home and pub directories, along with everything else that has to be backed up... |
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| 17:38.55 | jelly | Mikaze: you may still want to read jessie install guide first, esp. if you want speech synth enabled during install |
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| 17:39.55 | jelly | why does https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch02s01.html.en mention debian 9 |
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| 17:41.23 | Mikaze | Gotta press the right key-combo(s) and get down to the/mww |
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| 17:44.36 | kulyzu | i always see {} \; or {} + after find command, what does it mean? |
| 17:45.02 | dvs | kulyzu: {} is the substitute for the filename, \; is the end of the command. |
| 17:45.35 | kulyzu | dvs, and {} + |
| 17:45.50 | dvs | dunno what the + is |
| 17:46.04 | kulyzu | dvs, thank you :) |
| 17:46.22 | dvs | no prob |
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| 17:48.50 | dontknow | i dont know how can someone create such commands awk '/^[a-z0-9.-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ lol |
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| 17:49.15 | dontknow | i am saying WTF |
| 17:50.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 17:51.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am having some issues getting all of my monitors and tvs to work at the same time what site/forum would you recommend i post to get help with my stuff? |
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| 17:51.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am using a [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750 / R7 250E |
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| 18:02.52 | dontknow | Eryn_1983_FL, debian mailing list very active |
| 18:03.13 | dontknow | almost everyone gets their answer |
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| 18:12.10 | bouhda | Hi there ! Is there a way to launch a command only if the screen is not locked ? |
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| 18:15.21 | nkuttler | bouhda: how do you lock the screen? |
| 18:16.09 | bouhda | nkuttler: I use kde and I click on "Lock screen" on the top right end corner menu |
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| 18:16.33 | bouhda | it is for a cron job that I don't want to happen when I am not behind my computer |
| 18:17.17 | bouhda | so far the internet tells me to look around the d-bus, api it seems |
| 18:17.18 | pycoderf | for bind if i want to do say a /22 i just need to make the reverse zone includ eboth octets correct? |
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| 18:30.20 | rueda | can someone tell me what is wrong with this grug.conf? http://paste.debian.net/379030/ and is not the space at the end as that is present on the original file |
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| 18:33.22 | rueda | is one a sort of created myself and copying from another distroy but applying the right uuid and right grub style device name |
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| 18:41.13 | notmentor | rueda, What does that grub.cfg make grub not do? |
| 18:41.57 | rueda | notmentor, hi |
| 18:42.30 | rueda | notmentor, it doesn't show the menu, it just gives me a grub prompt, I accidentaly deleted my back up |
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| 18:44.03 | notmentor | rueda, Is grub using the grub.cfg? |
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| 18:45.19 | rueda | notmentor, why shouldn't it? and is grug.conf as far I know that it needs |
| 18:45.36 | rueda | notmentor, grub.conf |
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| 18:56.03 | rueda | notmentor, how to check if grub is using grub.conf |
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| 18:59.44 | mtn | rueda: you can look at your files, to see if grub.cfg is still there, or fix grub from a live disk |
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| 19:00.22 | rueda | is it grub.cfg o grub.conf |
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| 19:00.40 | rueda | grub.conf is there that's what I've been trying to get to work |
| 19:01.11 | mtn | rueda: grub.cfg is the correct name |
| 19:01.26 | rueda | wow that's news I'll try that |
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| 19:36.25 | Mikaze | Anyone know where to find the Jessie installation instructions to start the installer with speakup? Tried searching for "install jessie with speakup" and only got what sounds like a package listing. |
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| 19:38.12 | petemc | Mikaze: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s02.html |
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| 19:39.35 | Mikaze | petemc: Thank you. Tiz a bitch searching the web when you're blind. Impossible to skim past everything and get right to the meat. <grins> It's much appreciated. |
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| 19:41.08 | Mikaze | Heh heh heh. Especially when you're using edbrowse from squeeze, which is, like, a decade out of date. |
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| 19:41.49 | petemc | Mikaze: no problem |
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| 19:42.34 | Mikaze | wonders how to get the bots to tell if the nfbtrans package has been added to Debian yet. |
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| 19:42.52 | jelly | judd: versions nfbtrans |
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| 19:42.52 | judd | No package named 'nfbtrans' was found in amd64. |
| 19:43.07 | Mikaze | glares and sulks... |
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| 19:43.39 | Mikaze | Thank you. <looks at the command for the future> |
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| 19:44.24 | jelly | Mikaze: you can query judd (and dpkg) bot in private, /msg judd versions blah |
| 19:44.44 | Mikaze | Copied the command down. Thank you. |
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| 19:45.52 | Mikaze | Maybe the source will compile. Know they have it on Gentoo. |
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| 19:46.43 | Mikaze | Will stay with Debian, tho. |
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| 20:10.52 | Mikaze | Thank you again. Looks likeinstalling with the speakup module is a breeze now. Thank you, accessibility team for that one. |
| 20:11.01 | Mikaze | Keep well, all... |
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| 20:25.40 | mcm_ | is there a way to download packages from alternative repositories e.g. when on sid download the package from jessie without adding the rep source to apt-get sources.d file? |
| 20:26.23 | markybob | mcm_, sure. go to packages.debian.org. |
| 20:26.42 | markybob | sounds like not such a smart thing, though |
| 20:26.51 | markybob | mixing releases like that |
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| 20:27.25 | teratorn_ | it isnt smart |
| 20:27.30 | mcm_ | markybob, i was thinking to download some packaged for 'packer' build and cache them. |
| 20:27.35 | teratorn_ | but it can work sometimes |
| 20:27.54 | teratorn_ | usually if underlying shared libs dont bump major versions |
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| 20:27.58 | markybob | mcm_, i wouldn't do it. but whatever |
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| 20:28.20 | QbY | Can anyone think of a reason why sshd won't accept remote connections? Local network its fine, remote no connection. nmap shows it open locally, and filtered from remote. |
| 20:28.21 | mcm_ | markybob, so with `apt-get download <package>` i can download for the current release. |
| 20:28.41 | notmentor | mcm_, Are you aware of apt pinning? |
| 20:28.52 | mcm_ | markybob, it's for the corporate internal dpkg's since the repository server is very slow... |
| 20:29.17 | mcm_ | notmentor, yeah was also thinking of it as a possible way around. |
| 20:29.17 | markybob | mcm_, generally the downloads for the latest you have in sources.list. which you said was sid. |
| 20:29.19 | notmentor | mcm_, There are package caching systems available in Debian |
| 20:30.01 | mcm_ | notmentor, yes package caching would also require a local server setup. which is then more complicated for 'packer' |
| 20:30.44 | notmentor | Uhhhh |
| 20:30.52 | notmentor | mcm_, What is it that you're trying to achieve? |
| 20:30.59 | mcm_ | markybob, yes. but since i would like to have different builds/releases. |
| 20:30.59 | jelly | QbY: use something like "tcpdump -n -i eth0 port 22" to make sure the traffic is actually reaching the ssh server |
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| 20:32.08 | mcm_ | notmentor, download the files, and during packer build copy the packages to /var/cache/apt/packages/ and do apt-get install <package> |
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| 20:32.38 | markybob | mcm_, i don't you understand how apt-get works |
| 20:32.42 | notmentor | mcm_, And where will you be keeping the files? |
| 20:32.48 | mcm_ | this way the packages don't need to be downloaded each time we build the virtualbox images new. |
| 20:32.50 | jelly | mcm_: use an apt-specific proxy to cache packages, instead. Something like apt-cacher-ng |
| 20:33.51 | mcm_ | notmentor, packer is able to automate the virtualbox build, so with a small script i would be able to copy the files from host to guest. |
| 20:34.17 | notmentor | mcm_, On the host, where you could run one of the available cacheing systems? |
| 20:34.25 | mcm_ | jelly, yeah. would probably need to do this. as a last solution. |
| 20:35.06 | jelly | populating /v/c/a/archives manually is silly. |
| 20:35.22 | mcm_ | notmentor, yeah, but just having package download for a build would be easier to provide the build env to others too... |
| 20:35.52 | mcm_ | jelly, i agree... but practical. |
| 20:36.38 | notmentor | mcm_, It's silly largely from a practical point of view |
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| 20:38.33 | mcm_ | notmentor, considering it isn't easy to setup a caching server on windows, and being able to build the virtualbox with packer from windows makes it practical. |
| 20:40.16 | jelly | mcm_: it's not easy? Well you're already dealing with virtualization, so set up a linux vm just for the caching proxy and get on with life |
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| 20:42.37 | mcm_ | jelly, haha... |
| 20:42.43 | mcm_ | :-) will do... |
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| 20:44.23 | mcm_ | jelly, btw: packer builds with NAT only. so the additional linux server for caching would need to be on bridged network. which would then again change the IP addr. always. so adjusting the build scripts again on packer... |
| 20:44.55 | mcm_ | so each of the solutions have its complications and silly sides... |
| 20:45.06 | notmentor | If only there were a service that could map abstract internet names to IP addresses |
| 20:45.39 | mcm_ | notmentor, omg, that would be great ;-) |
| 20:45.50 | notmentor | Or, you could ask your operations to give you a static IP... |
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| 20:47.15 | mcm_ | notmentor, jelly, markybob, thanks a lot for your help and the discussion :-) really appreciate. |
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| 20:57.15 | toothe | I have a very weird question. I can't seem to get chromium-browser on my Jessie install. |
| 20:57.22 | toothe | Granted this is a Chromebook with an ARM processor. |
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| 20:59.08 | jelly | toothe: the package name is just chromium now |
| 20:59.24 | toothe | so...that isn't found. |
| 20:59.43 | toothe | apt-get install chromium <-- no such package. |
| 20:59.55 | dvs | ,v chromium |
| 20:59.56 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; stretch: 47.0.2526.80-1~deb8u1; jessie: 47.0.2526.80-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 48.0.2564.82-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 48.0.2564.82-1~deb8u1; sid: 48.0.2564.82-2 |
| 20:59.57 | jelly | toothe: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy base-files chromium" |
| 21:00.07 | toothe | sure, give me a moment. |
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| 21:00.31 | jelly | toothe: dpkg --print-architecture ... says what? |
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| 21:03.13 | toothe | armhf |
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| 21:03.26 | toothe | http://dpaste.com/2TTZ6CD |
| 21:03.30 | toothe | Other commands (: |
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| 21:04.41 | dvs | toothe: So it's already installed? |
| 21:04.51 | toothe | dvs: ...is it? |
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| 21:05.01 | toothe | how do you figure? |
| 21:05.17 | dvs | $ sudo apt-cache policy base-files chromium |
| 21:05.17 | dvs | base-files: |
| 21:05.17 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.49 | toothe | hm... |
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| 21:06.52 | toothe | what should the path be? |
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| 21:07.22 | dvs | toogley: dpkg -L chromium |
| 21:07.45 | toothe | it says not installed. |
| 21:08.22 | ZZRMike | I'm trying to set up a mirror with reprepro, but I'm having issues retrieving the key ID for jessie. The guide I'm following says to wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release{,.gpg} and then run "gpg Release.gpg" and enter in "Release" for the file. When I do that, gpg returns "public key not found". What am I doing incorrectly? |
| 21:08.58 | dvs | Oh, that's the policy for base-files, my mistake |
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| 21:09.42 | dvs | ,v chromium armhf |
| 21:09.43 | judd | Package: chromium on armhf -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2 |
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| 21:10.25 | jelly | toothe: so there's no build for armhf |
| 21:10.25 | dvs | oops, I guess it's not in jessie for armhf |
| 21:10.48 | toothe | jelly: right... |
| 21:10.49 | jelly | probably needs shitloads of RAM to build |
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| 21:11.12 | markybob | last i checked i thought it was something like 8GB |
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| 21:11.16 | jelly | ,v iceweasel --arch armhf |
| 21:11.17 | judd | Package: iceweasel on armhf -- wheezy: 38.2.1esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 38.5.0esr-1~deb7u2; jessie: 38.5.0esr-1~deb8u2; wheezy-security: 38.6.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 38.6.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 44.0-1; stretch: 44.0-1 |
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| 21:11.34 | jelly | at least you have one |
| 21:11.39 | toothe | maybe this particular chroot sucks. |
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| 22:47.42 | capitanocrunch | hello |
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| 22:49.30 | capitanocrunch | im a newbie playing with tutorials. setting up a DNS with bind9 |
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| 22:50.30 | capitanocrunch | when /etc/init.d/bind9 start it fail |
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| 22:51.11 | capitanocrunch | looking at log in /var/log/syslog it says |
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| 22:52.04 | capitanocrunch | initializing DST: openssl failure |
| 22:52.46 | capitanocrunch | exiting (due to fatal error) |
| 22:53.13 | capitanocrunch | any help? |
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| 22:56.04 | jhutchins | capitanocrunch: What guide are you following? |
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| 22:56.37 | jhutchins | capitanocrunch: A default Debian install of bind should not have any issues with ssl. |
| 22:56.53 | jhutchins | capitanocrunch: You should be able to create your zone and config files and go. |
| 22:58.17 | variuss | is it possible to recover partition table overwrited by dd? |
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| 22:58.55 | jhutchins | variuss: How mucy money do you have to spend on it? |
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| 23:03.03 | sine` | what tools do i have to install to get command line whoi |
| 23:03.06 | sine` | whois* |
| 23:04.53 | johnny0 | sine`: probably the 'whois' package |
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| 23:08.40 | notmentor | sine`, You can use apt-cache to search packages |
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| 23:19.31 | artag | so, I updated to jessie, and I can't get dovecot to work (it's running, but I can't login from thunderbird). Is there some reconfiguration I'm supposed to do ? I've been poking around the dovecot docs but there's an awful lot of them. |
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| 23:30.32 | capitanocrunch | jhutchins: this is the issue: bridge.grumpy-troll.org/2012/05/pangolin-update |
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| 23:45.04 | Lingo | Im not able to install the visualvm package on debian. |
| 23:45.18 | Lingo | E: Package 'visualvm' has no installation candidate |
| 23:45.25 | Lingo | Package visualvm is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 23:45.28 | at0m | ,v visualvm |
| 23:45.29 | judd | Package: visualvm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.3.8-1; stretch: 1.3.8-2; sid: 1.3.8-2 |
| 23:45.44 | Lingo | thats what i get after typing "apt-get install visualvm" |
| 23:46.05 | Lingo | how do i install visualvm? |
| 23:46.19 | themill | Lingo: which release of debian? |
| 23:46.44 | Lingo | 7.9 |
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| 23:47.15 | Lingo | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.9 (wheezy) |
| 23:47.16 | Lingo | Release:7.9 |
| 23:47.16 | Lingo | Codename:wheezy |
| 23:47.38 | themill | So that package isn't available for wheezy. Now might be the time to implement that upgrade plan to jessie. |
| 23:48.01 | Lingo | .... |
| 23:48.16 | Lingo | i cant do that |
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| 23:49.21 | at0m | hmm does judd just do the amd64 releases? |
| 23:49.24 | at0m | ,v screen |
| 23:49.26 | judd | Package: screen on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.0.3-14; squeeze-security-lts: 4.0.3-14+deb6u1; wheezy: 4.1.0~20120320gitdb59704-7; wheezy-security: 4.1.0~20120320gitdb59704-7+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.0~20120320gitdb59704-7+deb7u1; jessie-security: 4.2.1-3+deb8u1; jessie: 4.2.1-3+deb8u1; stretch: 4.3.1-2; sid: 4.3.1-2 |
| 23:49.51 | Lingo | so i cant ahve visualvm on wheezy.. |
| 23:49.52 | themill | ,archs dpkg |
| 23:49.53 | judd | Package dpkg in jessie: amd64 (1.17.26), arm64 (1.17.26), armel (1.17.26), armhf (1.17.26), i386 (1.17.26), mips (1.17.26), mipsel (1.17.26), powerpc (1.17.26), ppc64el (1.17.26), s390x (1.17.26) |
| 23:49.54 | Lingo | *have |
| 23:50.04 | themill | at0m: ^^ it indexes all archs that are in the archive |
| 23:50.20 | themill | (yes, it's a sizeable database) |
| 23:50.32 | at0m | themill: and ,v defaults to arm64? |
| 23:50.46 | Lingo | can someome recommend an alternative? |
| 23:51.00 | Lingo | i need to profile an already running java app that cant be rebooted |
| 23:51.11 | at0m | themill: ok then ,archs for the full monthy |
| 23:51.11 | themill | amd64 in this channel because it's the most common arch; add "--arch foo" or just the name of the arch to get something else |
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| 23:51.25 | themill | ,v dpkg i386 |
| 23:51.26 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- squeeze: 1.15.11; squeeze-security: 1.15.11; squeeze-security-lts: 1.15.12; wheezy: 1.16.16; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.16.17; wheezy-security: 1.16.17; jessie-security: 1.17.26; jessie: 1.17.26; sid: 1.18.4; stretch: 1.18.4 |
| 23:51.28 | themill | ,v dpkg --arch i386 |
| 23:51.29 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- squeeze: 1.15.11; squeeze-security: 1.15.11; squeeze-security-lts: 1.15.12; wheezy: 1.16.16; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.16.17; wheezy-security: 1.16.17; jessie-security: 1.17.26; jessie: 1.17.26; sid: 1.18.4; stretch: 1.18.4 |
| 23:51.41 | at0m | themill: i see, thanks :) |
| 23:51.53 | Lingo | :( |
| 23:51.56 | themill | also, 'v' is just short for 'versions' |
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| 23:52.38 | themill | Lingo: you could ask ##java if there is some other profiler you could use |
| 23:52.55 | at0m | ,v visualvm --arch i386 |
| 23:52.56 | judd | Package: visualvm on i386 -- jessie: 1.3.8-1; stretch: 1.3.8-2; sid: 1.3.8-2 |
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| 23:53.24 | at0m | not much in wheezy indeed |
| 23:53.27 | themill | it's also pretty rare that packages have different versions or different availability across archs |
| 23:54.10 | at0m | yea but they could be old package remainders in old archs never rebuilt for the new ones? |
| 23:54.58 | at0m | ,v pornview --arch i386 |
| 23:54.59 | judd | Package: pornview on i386 -- squeeze: 0.2pre1-11 |
| 23:56.16 | at0m | ok same in amd64 |
| 23:59.36 | themill | at0m: version skew tends to only happen in sid with the occasional exception of a binNMU entering testing (and then stable) for only some archs. Packages might just not exist for some archs but that's at the 0.1% level. |
