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| 00:07.16 | mentor | Guest13321, Are you asking if you can share the swap partitions? |
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| 00:08.29 | f0ff | hai guys! |
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| 00:09.20 | f0ff | i asked fedora guys but they said you have small penis go to #debian |
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| 00:10.05 | f0ff | i wanna disable XF86{HomePage,Mail,Tools} bindings on keyboard |
| 00:10.24 | f0ff | preferably using xkb |
| 00:10.51 | f0ff | to drunk to read manual.. and i dunno i might have done that before |
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| 00:11.38 | ponky | :D |
| 00:11.49 | mentor | f0ff, In Gnome, you can use the keyboard shortcuts settings thing |
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| 00:13.23 | f0ff | i don't use gnome |
| 00:13.31 | f0ff | eh |
| 00:13.56 | f0ff | i dunno what kind of input method i use but xkb settings work like a dream so |
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| 00:14.35 | Guest13321 | mentor: yes. |
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| 00:20.33 | rysiek|pl | hi all |
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| 00:21.19 | rysiek|pl | what is the best practice, encfs or ecryptfs? |
| 00:21.46 | rysiek|pl | I need to use them on an sshfs system (yes, that's layered, but seems to work) |
| 00:22.01 | rysiek|pl | so, the question is, which one is better? anybody any suggestions? |
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| 00:22.31 | mentor | Guest13321, The only issue is that the swap partition is used to store hibernation images |
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| 00:24.58 | Guest13321 | mentor: OK - I do not use hibernation. Thank you for your help. |
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| 00:25.58 | markybob | rysiek|pl: https://github.com/vgough/encfs/blob/master/PERFORMANCE.md |
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| 00:32.38 | rysiek|pl | markybob: swell, thanks |
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| 00:36.11 | rysiek|pl | markybob: on the other hand |
| 00:36.12 | rysiek|pl | http://wklej.org/id/1974876/ |
| 00:36.21 | rysiek|pl | this is what I get when installing encfs on Debian 8 |
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| 00:36.47 | rysiek|pl | markybob: and also: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ecryptfs#Deficiencies |
| 00:37.48 | markybob | rysiek|pl: right, and you mentioned sshfs. so i'd still probably go encfs |
| 00:38.01 | rysiek|pl | yeah, I'm slowly getting to this conclusion |
| 00:38.57 | rysiek|pl | but the security issues are... problematic |
| 00:39.32 | rysiek|pl | markybob: also, I like that ecryptfs keeps metadata within files, and not in an additional XML file like encfs |
| 00:39.41 | rysiek|pl | no easy answers |
| 00:39.59 | markybob | nope |
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| 00:41.08 | rysiek|pl | marcoslater: and then there's this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/277578/comments/8 |
| 00:41.16 | rysiek|pl | marcoslater: apparently ecryptfs works fine with sshfs |
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| 00:42.01 | markybob | rysiek|pl: i don't use it so i wouldn't know if it does. worth trying |
| 00:42.44 | rysiek|pl | markybob: will do |
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| 00:53.50 | win32 | hello .. =) |
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| 00:54.04 | teraflops | ehlo |
| 00:54.12 | win32 | teraflops: how are u :D |
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| 00:55.09 | dvs | win32: i think that's a mail server |
| 00:55.23 | win32 | dvs =P |
| 00:55.27 | win32 | how to enable in debian |
| 00:55.28 | win32 | ipv6 ? |
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| 00:55.43 | win32 | V:#1 SMP Debian 3.2.73-2+deb7u2 |
| 00:55.44 | teraflops | win32: it's enable by default |
| 00:55.53 | teraflops | enabled* |
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| 00:56.46 | win32 | when ifconfig > inet6 addr: fe80::f816:3eff:xxxx:xxxx/64 Scope:Link |
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| 00:58.42 | win32 | or use ping6 erorr > connect: Network is unreachable |
| 00:59.09 | teraflops | win32: ping6 ::1 |
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| 00:59.54 | win32 | 64 bytes from ::1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.122 ms |
| 00:59.59 | teraflops | win32: it's enabled by default means it's ipv6 capable not that you get a ipv6 address for browsing the intertubes |
| 01:02.09 | win32 | it's that correct ipv6 at > inet6 ? |
| 01:02.14 | win32 | teraflops: |
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| 01:02.40 | teraflops | sorry what does > mean? |
| 01:03.12 | quantic | win32: You have a link-scope address. Meaning that it is not valid for the global internet. |
| 01:03.26 | quantic | win32: Your ISP, etc has to be IPv6-enabled in order to receive a global address. |
| 01:04.03 | win32 | quantic Thanks you. |
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| 01:04.53 | teraflops | win32: wanna check ipv6, take a look at a free ipv6 tunnelbroker, also miredo i guess |
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| 01:05.10 | teraflops | he.net is a good one |
| 01:05.17 | quantic | win32: A global address will be in the range of 2000::/3. Anything starting with fe80 is a link-scope address. |
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| 01:06.33 | dvs | 2000::/3? I will never understand IPv6 addresses. |
| 01:06.44 | quantic | dvs: Do you understand CIDR notation for IPv4? |
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| 01:07.14 | dvs | quantic: Oh oh. I get it now. |
| 01:07.23 | quantic | dvs: If so, -exactly- the same concept. |
| 01:07.35 | win32 | teraflops: how to check? i use server from ohv |
| 01:07.48 | quantic | win32: ABANDON SHIP. OVH is beyond horrible. </rant> |
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| 01:08.02 | dvs | So the range is from 2000:: to 3fff:: |
| 01:08.07 | quantic | dvs: Exactly. :D |
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| 01:08.27 | quantic | dvs: Well, technically, 3fff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff |
| 01:08.32 | dvs | That seems to be a lot of unallocated space. |
| 01:08.37 | win32 | =D |
| 01:08.39 | quantic | dvs: Yup. |
| 01:09.25 | quantic | dvs: But when you get 18.5 quintillion addresses per /64... We can leave a lot of unallocated space. |
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| 01:10.04 | quantic | I think I might have gotten offtopic, here. |
| 01:10.09 | win32 | :/ |
| 01:10.18 | Dagger | of course, you need a lot of unallocated space to keep fragmentation down |
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| 01:10.47 | quantic | Dagger: Fragmentation isn't nearly as much of an issue with IPv6 as it was with IPv4. |
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| 01:11.13 | quantic | Dagger: partly due to the amount of space, you're correct in that. |
| 01:11.16 | Dagger | yeah. precisely because it's so huge |
| 01:11.23 | teraflops | win32: doesnt ovh give ipv6? |
| 01:11.36 | quantic | teraflops: Yes, but it is BEYOND broken. The worst ipv6 deployment I've ever seen. |
| 01:11.43 | teraflops | heh |
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| 01:11.53 | win32 | teraflops: i don't know i have installed IRCD not support ipv6 |
| 01:12.27 | teraflops | win32: you mean irc does not suppoert iRC? |
| 01:13.03 | win32 | not support ipv6 |
| 01:13.08 | win32 | only ipv4 |
| 01:13.16 | teraflops | sure? |
| 01:13.18 | teraflops | heh |
| 01:13.48 | teraflops | anyway I guess thet have a web admin panel thingy, just pick a ipv6 |
| 01:13.58 | teraflops | ...address* |
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| 01:14.07 | win32 | yes i will |
| 01:14.09 | win32 | :D |
| 01:14.12 | win32 | thanks u for ur support |
| 01:15.01 | teraflops | win32: btw you can connect to freenode via ipv6 |
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| 01:15.46 | win32 | teraflops: i know i have sometimes connect to freenode with ipv6 |
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| 01:16.26 | teraflops | ah then I misunderstood what you said, english is hard for me |
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| 01:17.27 | win32 | my englisht it's bad :=DdD |
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| 01:18.17 | markybob | even americans can't speak english |
| 01:18.49 | win32 | mark :D |
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| 01:20.27 | dropshot | I dist-upgraded sid and got hit by bug |
| 01:20.33 | dropshot | #814722 |
| 01:20.35 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/814722 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (open, upstream): «xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver segfault at address 0x17»; severity: critical; opened: 2016-02-14; last modified: 2016-02-14. |
| 01:20.41 | teraflops | dropshot: is your fault :P |
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| 01:20.50 | markybob | dropshot: great. sid support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 01:21.25 | quantic | dropshot: Thank you for your contributions as an alpha tester. |
| 01:21.36 | markybob | ha |
| 01:21.50 | markybob | sorry |
| 01:22.08 | dropshot | markybob: so I can't ask here? It is a fairly simple question. |
| 01:22.17 | markybob | dropshot: correct. per /topic |
| 01:22.25 | quantic | dropshot: It's a simple concept, too. We support stable here. |
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| 01:27.15 | win32 | =D |
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| 01:27.50 | dropshot | quantic: That could be said in a less rude way. |
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| 01:29.17 | quantic | dropshot: Eh, that's fair. |
| 01:29.40 | quantic | dropshot: I'm hungry, and therefore cranky. My bad. |
| 01:30.12 | dvs | Have a Snickers |
| 01:30.57 | win32 | Snickers + RedbuLl :D |
| 01:30.58 | win32 | u can fly |
| 01:30.59 | win32 | =P |
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| 01:31.50 | markybob | hands quantic a snickers bar |
| 01:32.13 | dvs | Better? |
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| 01:35.36 | dropshot | quantic: No worries. I'll head over to #debian-next |
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| 01:36.43 | rhizome | so, i switched from jessie to testing and some things are wonky. root filesystem isn't remounting rw, so x doesn't start |
| 01:37.11 | markybob | rhizome: that happens. testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 01:37.18 | markybob | i think i'm a broken record |
| 01:37.25 | rhizome | woops! thanks and sorry! |
| 01:37.30 | quantic | Deja vu. Glitch in the Matrix. |
| 01:38.01 | TomTomTosch | markybob, think we need a bot that detects that ;D |
| 01:38.28 | markybob | TomTomTosch: i'm just glad you're here to have my back when i'm slow/away ;) |
| 01:39.09 | TomTomTosch | markybob, yes, sir! :P |
| 01:39.17 | rhizome | of course they already have a rhizome |
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| 01:40.35 | TomTomTosch | rhizome, do they? |
| 01:40.51 | rhizome | oftc, apparently |
| 01:41.17 | rhizome | 99.999999% sure it isn't me |
| 01:41.45 | TomTomTosch | rhizome, what a terrible twist of fate |
| 01:42.16 | rhizome | my weekend is ruined |
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| 01:43.13 | markybob | rhizome: really? a broken system that you obviously didn't care about by upgrading it to testing ruins you whole weekend? i'm kind of jealous of how good your life must be |
| 01:43.59 | rhizome | i thought we were talking about my nick being taken on another irc network |
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| 01:45.02 | markybob | yeah, that makes even less sense |
| 01:45.20 | rhizome | sorry, didn't mean to confuse you |
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| 01:57.34 | Cloudstrike | hey i want to add native vlan to my bonding configuration so it should replace iface vlan1, but that do not work for me if i change iface vlan1 to iface vlan0 http://paste.debian.net/plainh/d88a7754 |
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| 01:59.24 | dooglus | I'm trying to install Jessie on a new laptop, booting from a USB stick. it has been --[ starting up the partitioner ]-- for 10 minutes now, 36% please wait... any way to bring it back to life? |
| 02:00.21 | dooglus | oh. 40% now. what's so slow? it didn't ask me whether to partition the drive yet, so what's it doing? |
| 02:00.51 | dvs | dooglus: its getting your current hard drives and partitions. |
| 02:01.20 | mentor | dooglus, Try looking at the log on the other VTs |
| 02:01.36 | dooglus | I see other VTs but they're all blank |
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| 02:02.59 | dooglus | I hit return to activate them, but none of the commands I know seem to work. #ps | less -> less: not found |
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| 02:03.59 | dooglus | it's up to 45% and "scanning disks..." now, so I guess it's making progress. I just never saw it take more than a second before starting the partitioner, as far as I remember |
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| 02:54.38 | dunkel2 | hello |
| 02:55.34 | dunkel2 | i was wondering if someone can help me, i am trying to connect to my server via sftp which was working fine some days ago and now i get this debug1: Requesting no-more-sessions@openssh.com and a broken pipe aftr that |
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| 02:59.24 | QuartedOnion | dunkel2: try run sftp with -v ( verbose ) |
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| 02:59.35 | QuartedOnion | that might give you more information |
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| 03:38.32 | airbender | for nodejs, which version shall a new learner use? 4.3 or 5.6? |
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| 03:52.08 | insecurity | i wanted to back them up onto a smart card reader cable but i didn't not get what i wouldn't have had if i didn't not do the linux.exe boot partitions in windows 7 32 bit safe mode. |
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| 04:09.16 | markybob | airbender: 5.6 is experimental. that's never recommended |
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| 04:11.52 | airbender | markybob, thanks. may I ask what editor you use for node.js? I am looking for one with syntax autocompletion |
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| 04:14.06 | markybob | airbender: i don't use node.js |
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| 04:32.18 | TomTomTosch | airbender, intellij idea has a node.js plugin with runtime environment integration for easy testing and whatnot. that's my choice of ide at least. |
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| 04:33.04 | TomTomTosch | airbender, there is a free community edition. students get the commercial license for free btw. |
| 04:33.24 | airbender | TomTomTosch, intellij? |
| 04:33.58 | airbender | ok. I found it. thanks |
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| 04:35.17 | TomTomTosch | airbender, https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/node-js.html |
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| 04:47.57 | SkepticalParrot | Anybody know of an alternative for tint2 that I can use with openbox? |
| 04:48.25 | SkepticalParrot | Tint2 stopped working fsr, and so I wanna try and find an alternative. |
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| 05:00.26 | shaun413 | major |
| 05:00.28 | shaun413 | emergency |
| 05:00.40 | shaun413 | So my friend fucked around and deleted half my vars... |
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| 05:00.58 | shaun413 | I can boot using advacnced and like sysctlboot mode |
| 05:01.10 | shaun413 | but.. comes up saying error, and disabled extensions |
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| 05:02.33 | shaun413_ | Hello |
| 05:02.43 | shaun413_ | How can I fix this major issue |
| 05:04.04 | quantic | What was deleted, exactly? |
| 05:04.15 | shaun413_ | I'm not sure even |
| 05:04.21 | shaun413_ | I don't have a dpkg anymore... |
| 05:04.47 | quantic | Sounds like a reinstall is in order. |
| 05:05.11 | shaun413_ | Nothing I can do??? |
| 05:05.32 | quantic | If the core of the system has been gutted to the degree that dpkg is gone, no, I don't think so. |
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| 05:06.07 | TomTomTosch | he deleted vars and now dpkg is gone... huh? |
| 05:06.11 | shaun413_ | Yes |
| 05:06.22 | quantic | shaun413_: Actually, are you at a shell? |
| 05:06.25 | shaun413_ | Well. Some of vars is there |
| 05:06.30 | shaun413_ | I can go to shell or x |
| 05:06.32 | TomTomTosch | i don't understand what that means. |
| 05:06.33 | quantic | You keep saying that. "vars" |
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| 05:06.44 | shaun413_ | X for only a few minutes before it crashes |
| 05:06.46 | quantic | Define "vars". |
| 05:06.55 | shaun413_ | Home/Vars |
| 05:07.03 | quantic | ... That's still gibberish. |
| 05:07.10 | quantic | Environment variables? /var? What? |
| 05:07.21 | infopc | shanwn413: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRCChannelGuidelines |
| 05:07.26 | shaun413_ | Yes that |
| 05:07.40 | quantic | "Yes" is not a valid response to a multiple-choice query. |
| 05:08.44 | shaun413_ | The vars directory |
| 05:09.56 | quantic | I'm going to smack you in a moment if you don't start being specific. |
| 05:10.22 | shaun413_ | Honestly I'm new to Linux. I'm sorry |
| 05:10.43 | quantic | I'm not new to smacking people. SPECIFICS. |
| 05:11.03 | quantic | EXACTLY what is missing? Don't use shorthand that you think you understand. |
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| 05:11.58 | shaun413_ | My dpkg file is missing |
| 05:12.09 | quantic | You think. |
| 05:12.13 | quantic | Are you at a shell? |
| 05:12.29 | shaun413_ | If I try to use apt-get or from the shell it says the file is missing |
| 05:12.38 | quantic | Enter this: file /usr/bin/dpkg |
| 05:12.43 | quantic | And tell me what it says. |
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| 05:13.50 | quantic | Or at least the first few words. |
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| 05:14.39 | shaun413_ | Dpkg : elf 64 bit |
| 05:14.39 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, shaun413_ |
| 05:14.46 | shaun413_ | But. That's not the one it yells about |
| 05:14.49 | quantic | shaun413_: Then it's not gone. |
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| 05:14.59 | quantic | shaun413_: K, so you weren't being specific again. |
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| 05:15.11 | shaun413_ | It says. /var/lib/dpkg/ |
| 05:15.16 | shaun413_ | Is missing |
| 05:15.21 | quantic | Heeey, now we're getting somewhere. |
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| 05:16.48 | quantic | If it were me, I'd try to rebuild the dpkg database. You're not going to get far in that process, honestly. |
| 05:16.58 | TomTomTosch | shaun413_, can you copy the output of ls / pls? |
| 05:17.34 | TomTomTosch | into http://pastebin.com/ |
| 05:21.17 | shaun413_ | I cannot |
| 05:21.21 | shaun413_ | I don't have Internet |
| 05:21.27 | quantic | ... |
| 05:21.39 | TomTomTosch | haha right. type it :P |
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| 05:23.11 | dsockwell | shaun413_: i see you everywhere, you must have the worst luck ever |
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| 05:27.51 | shaun413_ | It's a lot |
| 05:27.59 | shaun413_ | I'll just fn reinstall |
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| 05:31.18 | TomTomTosch | good luck |
| 05:33.48 | TomTomTosch | and dont let your friends have root access to your computer :P |
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| 05:42.19 | ecom | I'm on Debian 8.3 and I use i3wm. I installed firefox by installing the tar file. However, everytime I want to open firefox, I have to cd into the directory and type ./firefox. Is there a way for dmenu to just be able to get firefox? |
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| 05:43.28 | TomTomTosch | ecom, you could create a symlink from /usr/local/bin, or just install iceweasel from the packages. |
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| 05:46.15 | ecom | TomTomTosch: could you explain the symlink procedure? |
| 05:46.50 | TomTomTosch | ecom, you create a symlink with ln -s path/to/firefox /usr/local/bin |
| 05:47.36 | TomTomTosch | ecom, "ln -s path/to/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox" i mean |
| 05:47.55 | ecom | I just type that into the terminal and dmenu will be able to find firefox? |
| 05:48.33 | RayzrShrp | does anybody know if there is a gui based journal view for debian? |
| 05:48.39 | RayzrShrp | er viewer |
| 05:48.47 | ahriman | ecom: dmenu should find firefox without a symlink |
| 05:49.13 | ecom | ahriman: But I manually installed firefox by downloading the tar file, not with apt-get |
| 05:49.17 | ahriman | ecom: or at least, when i installed iceweasel, it automatically symlinked firefox for me |
| 05:49.20 | ahriman | ahhh |
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| 05:50.19 | TomTomTosch | ecom, it will find it then, yes. |
| 05:51.06 | TomTomTosch | ecom, path/to/firefox is the path to the script you used to start ff. the name of the script included. |
| 05:54.03 | ecom | TomTomTosch: thanks, that worked |
| 05:55.06 | TomTomTosch | ecom, yw |
| 05:55.56 | QuartedOnion | ecom: reasons not to install firefox from distro's repo ? nightly ? |
| 05:56.43 | ecom | QuartedOnion: you can't install firefox with sudo apt-get |
| 05:57.00 | ecom | QuartedOnion: It's not in the repos |
| 05:57.04 | TomTomTosch | ecom, iceweasel is firefox rebranded. |
| 05:57.28 | TomTomTosch | ecom, you don't get updates for a tarball. |
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| 05:58.05 | QuartedOnion | iceweasel should come preinstalled on debian |
| 05:58.30 | Elronnd | iceweasel is literally firefox |
| 05:58.36 | Elronnd | just with a different name and logo |
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| 06:04.58 | ecom | Elronnd: yeah, but some addons I need don't work as well in iceweasel |
| 06:05.31 | mo1991reg | ecom - iceweasel is firefox - plugins to my knowledge are exactly the same. |
| 06:06.01 | mo1991reg | difference is iceweasel will get security updates - can be installed via apt-get, etc. installing firefox is basically less secure and less stable |
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| 06:06.35 | ecom | mo1991reg: addons say "...is not compatible with...", so I can't even install addons for iceweasel |
| 06:06.39 | jeddi | ecom: all plugins will work unless they're version-constrained (I doubt they are). |
| 06:06.46 | Elronnd | IIRC there was a ticket about renaming iceweasel back to firefox |
| 06:06.49 | jeddi | ecom: name names. |
| 06:06.50 | Elronnd | so here's hoping |
| 06:07.03 | ecom | jeddi: arc dark theme didn't work for me in iceweasel |
| 06:07.09 | jeddi | ecom: url? |
| 06:08.00 | TomTomTosch | iceweasel on jessie is an old release. so not really that surprising... |
| 06:08.00 | jeddi | searching add-ons for 'arc dark' has no results. |
| 06:08.17 | jeddi | i'm on iceweasel 31.5 |
| 06:08.18 | ecom | jeddi: search on google |
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| 06:10.15 | mo1991reg | ecom - that plugin is available via mozilla site. However on the mozilla site it states that it is not available for linux. |
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| 06:10.25 | mo1991reg | Please note: This add-on is not compatible with your operating system. |
| 06:10.33 | jeddi | ecom: it says it's not available for 31.5 |
| 06:10.52 | jeddi | so it's a versioning issue not a naming one. |
| 06:10.56 | ecom | mo1991reg: ??? arc dark was build for GNU/Linux, it compliments a gtk theme, which is actually a requirement for installation |
| 06:10.57 | jeddi | (by the looks of it) |
| 06:10.59 | mo1991reg | ecom - have you run this on firefox in linux? |
| 06:10.59 | moonpunter | I'm on testing and all I wanted to do was make corebird work because it looks neat. |
| 06:11.17 | mo1991reg | ecom - ok, I'm just telling you what the mozilla page said. |
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| 06:11.39 | moonpunter | My packages are broken and the ways I know to resolve that are failing. I feel tarded I think I'll come back and ask tomorrow. |
| 06:11.43 | jeddi | needs 40+ / 38 ESR |
| 06:12.12 | ecom | jeddi: still, iceweasel can't run it, so I need firefox |
| 06:12.29 | jeddi | ecom: iceweasel 44.0.2-1 presumably can. |
| 06:12.40 | jeddi | i don't want to upgrade to that to prove a point, but, either way, there you go. |
| 06:12.52 | TomTomTosch | could we pls only answer to questions that have been asked? ans jeddi, if you are on 31.5 you are doing something wrong. |
| 06:13.03 | ecom | jeddi: I don't think there is an iceweasel 44 |
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| 06:13.18 | TomTomTosch | not for jessie. |
| 06:13.29 | ecom | TomTomTosch: not even in the backports I think |
| 06:13.40 | rabbitear | what is the plugin? |
| 06:14.02 | mo1991reg | ecom - it may not be in backports yet. and I think you are right that it won't run at least on stable version of iceweasel yet. |
| 06:14.13 | jeddi | https://addons.mozilla.org/en/firefox/collections/horst3180/a/ |
| 06:15.03 | rabbitear | thanks |
| 06:15.27 | mo1991reg | So if you really need that plugin I'd say keep along with your cutting edge firefox install. Or backport newer version of iceweasel . |
| 06:15.28 | jeddi | 44.0.2-1 is in stretch - it may be installable directly - easy enough to test. |
| 06:15.38 | TomTomTosch | moonpunter, testing support is in #debian-next on irc.debian.org |
| 06:15.46 | mo1991reg | !simple sid backport |
| 06:15.46 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 06:15.59 | TomTomTosch | jeddi, mo1991reg, pls stop |
| 06:16.15 | moonpunter | TomTomTosch: good point thanks |
| 06:17.17 | mo1991reg | :) |
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| 06:41.29 | RayzrShrp | does anyone know if there is a frontend to journalctl? |
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| 06:45.06 | TomTomTosch | RayzrShrp, there is a systemd-ui. not sure what that is capable of, i don't use guis for much. |
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| 06:46.02 | RayzrShrp | TomTomTosch: i just find the journal while powerful, extremly convuleted |
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| 06:57.35 | TomTomTosch | RayzrShrp, you would probably want to use modifiers to limit the output |
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| 06:58.03 | RayzrShrp | TomTomTosch: that's what I find to be so overly complicate |
| 06:58.13 | TomTomTosch | RayzrShrp, like --since "1 hour ago" or "-u whatever service" |
| 06:58.34 | RayzrShrp | TomTomTosch: yeah im not a fan of stuff like _SYSTEMD-UNIT=ssh |
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| 07:38.51 | jusss | my host os is debian jessie amd64, and the chroot os is debian jessie i386 |
| 07:39.27 | jusss | and there're some names make confused, like amd64 x86_64 ia32 x86 i386 i686 |
| 07:39.56 | jusss | which is proper? |
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| 07:51.55 | jusss | maziar: grep? |
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| 07:54.51 | QuartedOnion | think I just fucked my debian as I am now unable to connect to internet. Kernel module for the interface is loaded, can reach other ip address within lan. I have been mess around with systemctl and disabled rpcbind and avahi. Any pointer on troubleshooting this ? |
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| 08:06.58 | maziar | jusss dude, gerp and egrep doesn't answer |
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| 08:11.50 | infopc | maziar: use zgrep |
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| 08:16.00 | digdilem | QuartedOnion, if you can reach the lan ok, then your routing is probably off |
| 08:16.09 | digdilem | "route" shows your current route |
| 08:16.21 | digdilem | you should have a default gateway pointing to your router |
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| 08:17.22 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 08:17.48 | QuartedOnion | jeddi: unreachable |
| 08:18.04 | QuartedOnion | digdilem: what ip route should look like |
| 08:18.08 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: so not a dns issue - digdilem's question then :) |
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| 08:19.02 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: 'ip route' should have a line that starts with 'default' and says 'via ....' which will be your local gateway ip. a) is theline there, and b) can you ping that IP address? |
| 08:19.07 | digdilem | one entry in the route table should be "default" under destination and have UG as flags |
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| 08:26.03 | QuartedOnion | jeddi, digdilem: yes the default entry is missing |
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| 08:26.34 | QuartedOnion | I don't recall modifying the routing table |
| 08:27.55 | digdilem | "route add default gw 192.168.0.1" will set your default to that ip. change the ip to your router and try again |
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| 08:30.10 | QuartedOnion | digdilem: it's fixed now |
| 08:30.23 | digdilem | :) |
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| 08:32.55 | QuartedOnion | digdilem: May I ask, what's needed for a linux box to connect to the internet. If the network is down I would check for 1) hardware ( if not fixed on motherboard ) 2) check kernel module 3) check firewall. I feel I am missing something here |
| 08:34.00 | QuartedOnion | 4) manually connect with netctl | mncli |
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| 08:34.29 | digdilem | ifconfig will show if your device is up and working. other than that it just knows how to route traffic and dns. linux is designed to network out of the box and while there;s a million things that can break, generally it just works if set right and the hardware is supported |
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| 08:52.37 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: you mean a checklist for working out where it's broken? |
| 08:52.59 | QuartedOnion | jeddi: pretty much so |
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| 08:54.15 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: okay - well, normal troubleshooting process, i guess - start at either end of the problem and work backwards (or forwards). as digdilem says, first thing you'd test is if the device is present (ifconfig). and if it has an IP address associated with it (for ipv4, that's the second line of the ifconfig stanza for the ethx interface, say). |
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| 08:55.17 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: route -n (or ip route) to show routing table. and/or try pinging 8.8.8.8 (google dns) as a safe bet. if you can ping that, then routing is working fine. if you can't, and route table doesn't include default route, then add it in. if all that works but you can't ping google.com (say) then it's a resolver issue (/etc/resolv.conf, typically) |
| 08:55.17 | maziar | i have too many .gz file , and they are too lagrge, about 3Gig how can i search faster on them to find some thing like "isac" ,,,,, i cant find my result please help |
| 08:55.23 | jeddi | maziar: zgrep |
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| 08:55.44 | jeddi | maziar: or gunzip them and work on the uncompressed form. |
| 08:56.38 | maziar | jeddi its abou 10,000 gz file, i cant uncompressed them,,,,,, is there any better soloution |
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| 08:57.12 | jeddi | maziar: better than zgrep? that's what i use. (I've been scanning a bundle of gz'd log files lately) |
| 08:57.30 | jeddi | maziar: you could feed them into a log analyser - but that'll blow out the disk usage even more. |
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| 08:57.46 | jeddi | maziar: is there something about zgrep that makes you not want to use it? |
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| 08:57.57 | QuartedOnion | jeddi: "and if it has an IP address associated with it" You mean public facing ip addr ? Or just the lan addr |
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| 08:58.22 | TomTomTosch | maziar, something like this what you are looking for? "find / -type f -size +1G 2> /dev/null" |
| 08:58.30 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: the local interface (typically eth0, but not always) ... would normally get its IP address from a dhcp server (your adsl modem, f.e.) .. or it may be hard coded (/etc/network/interfaces) |
| 08:58.44 | infopc | maziar http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/187742/how-do-i-grep-recursively-through-gz-files |
| 08:58.48 | jeddi | QuartedOnion: so, yeah, uhm, 'just the lan addr' :) |
| 08:59.08 | TomTomTosch | maziar, ah, nvm. i misunderstood. |
| 09:00.09 | QuartedOnion | maziar: you can list the content of a tarball with tar -tv -f tarballfile |
| 09:02.01 | QuartedOnion | maziar: oh you mean search for a line in a textfile or just filenames ? |
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| 09:04.04 | RayzrShrp | debian doesnt seem to use /usr/local much, is that by design? |
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| 09:07.58 | QuartedOnion | jeddi: dns is for resolving domain names right ? ( anything that's not ip addresses ) |
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| 09:10.12 | mystica555_ | RayzrShrp: distributions -by themselves- shouldnt put anything into /usr/local |
| 09:10.18 | mystica555_ | thats the admins job |
| 09:10.41 | mystica555_ | /opt is for distro installed binary packages and such |
| 09:11.04 | RayzrShrp | so im installing this pmacct and the docs are saying it expects all these things in different places |
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| 09:11.28 | mystica555_ | it expects you to install all the things to follow its docs |
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| 09:11.50 | mystica555_ | ie, manyal compilation, and it would end up in /usr/local |
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| 09:12.17 | RayzrShrp | yet i was able to install pmacct using apt-get |
| 09:12.28 | RayzrShrp | it just put stuff wherever it wanted |
| 09:12.30 | mystica555_ | then, check the local documentations |
| 09:12.41 | mystica555_ | and see if debian may have modified the paths and configs to suit its packaging |
| 09:13.02 | RayzrShrp | that's the one thing i dont like about debian, puts stuff all over the place |
| 09:13.12 | mystica555_ | no, it puts stuff in its expected places |
| 09:13.34 | mystica555_ | 'all over the place' is manually installing your own libreoffice to /usr/local/libreoffice and your own pmacct and supporting libs to wherever |
| 09:13.34 | mystica555_ | etc |
| 09:13.42 | mystica555_ | debian is rather 'all in one place, forcibly' |
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| 09:13.58 | RayzrShrp | yeah maybe thats what i dont like |
| 09:14.00 | mystica555_ | it -changes defaults from upstream coders- and packages them to comply to their filesystem directory spec |
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| 09:14.08 | RayzrShrp | yes that |
| 09:14.12 | mystica555_ | but its relatively logical |
| 09:14.59 | mystica555_ | an upstream dev has to write the thing so as to run on anything; they code and document to manual, simple installation; distribution packagers will -always- change these defaults to suit a greater goal |
| 09:15.05 | RayzrShrp | so when it says it expects an install of rrdtool in /usr/local/rrdtool where are all the files that should be there ater debian changes stuff |
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| 09:15.23 | mystica555_ | where are you reading 'it expects' |
| 09:15.35 | mystica555_ | expectations imply config files; config files can be (and likely are already) changed |
| 09:15.44 | RayzrShrp | http://www.pmacct.net/pnrg/#downloads |
| 09:16.01 | mystica555_ | was pnrg included in debian too? |
| 09:16.07 | RayzrShrp | so i installed rrdtool with apt-get but it's not in /usr/local |
| 09:16.14 | RayzrShrp | no just pmacct |
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| 09:18.10 | mystica555_ | pnrg-create.pl:my $rrdtool = '/usr/local/rrdtool/bin/rrdtool'; |
| 09:18.14 | mystica555_ | you can modify it |
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| 09:18.17 | mystica555_ | to point to wherever rrdtool is |
| 09:18.30 | mystica555_ | 'which rrdtool' |
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| 09:19.03 | RayzrShrp | where did you get pnrd-create.pl from? the tar.gz |
| 09:19.06 | mystica555_ | yes |
| 09:19.20 | mystica555_ | ~/pnrg-0.1# grep usr/local * --color |grep rrdtool --color |
| 09:19.25 | RayzrShrp | ok hang on im trying to figure out how to tell it which interface to listen on |
| 09:20.10 | mystica555_ | looks like a very simple perl script to modify the path in :) its the first bit of actual code under comments in both the create and update scripts |
| 09:20.25 | mystica555_ | and the comment "Centralize somewhere" also exists |
| 09:20.25 | mystica555_ | heh |
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| 09:23.58 | RayzrShrp | so /usr/bin/rrdtool |
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| 09:24.49 | mystica555_ | yep; everything goes into /usr/bin/ ; forced centralization of the binaries :) |
| 09:25.03 | mystica555_ | (contrast to c:\program files\yourstuff) |
| 09:25.13 | mystica555_ | (sort of centralized, yet not) |
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| 09:27.24 | hexnewbie | Well, there's always /opt/<package> and /opt/<vendor>/<package> |
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| 09:28.48 | mystica555_ | yes, but when 99% of your installed binary set comes from a distribution and not a 'vendor' it gets placed differently |
| 09:29.02 | mystica555_ | google being the fun exception with chrome |
| 09:29.11 | mystica555_ | and sometimes office binary compilations |
| 09:29.15 | hexnewbie | True. But in theory, third-party packages are required to go there, so it's kinda like Windows :) |
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| 09:29.17 | mystica555_ | libre/open |
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| 09:30.07 | mystica555_ | windows has a vastly smaller scope of 'inclusive' vs a very wide 'third party' in your exmaple; whereas distributions always package third party projects |
| 09:30.18 | mystica555_ | to varying extents |
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| 09:32.30 | SpeedyG | hm, aptitude shows that one package will not be updated... how can I find out which package that'd be? |
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| 09:33.01 | hexnewbie | Those aren't strictly third-party, Debian supports them and provides security updates. OTOH, things that Debian can never support would work differently. Maya would go in /opt/Autodesk, Matlab would go in /opt/mathworks. Or should - I'm OK with what Debian gets you in terms of Octave and Blender. |
| 09:33.25 | hexnewbie | SpeedyG: Perhaps -v would help it be more specific? |
| 09:33.38 | SpeedyG | hexnewbie: nope, still shows nothing .. |
| 09:33.43 | SpeedyG | at least not the package.. |
| 09:33.57 | hexnewbie | SpeedyG: Is apt-get more specific? |
| 09:34.48 | SpeedyG | hexnewbie: yea, thanks :) |
| 09:35.00 | hexnewbie | SpeedyG: There's also aptitude --show-why, which I've never used |
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| 09:36.00 | SpeedyG | hexnewbie: nope, --show-why also doesnt specify but apt-get was showing which package (apache-bin) it was nagging about |
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| 10:04.24 | petan | hi I got debian server which has multiple network cards, on one of them I had boh ipv4 and ipv6 address, I needed to reconfigure one of the cards, so I did /etc/init.d/networking restart and since |
| 10:04.25 | petan | then it got all fucked up |
| 10:04.37 | petan | now ipv4 address works, but ipv6 doesn't |
| 10:05.14 | Dagger | that's why you don't use `/etc/init.d/networking restart` |
| 10:05.28 | petan | I did it from local console not over ssh |
| 10:05.35 | Dagger | it's been deprecated for a long time. use `ifdown <name>; ifup <name>` |
| 10:06.31 | cisc | isn't ifup/ifdown also deprecated |
| 10:06.39 | petan | I tried that too but I am getting some errors with that |
| 10:06.53 | petan | ok, if it's all deprecated can someone point me to documentation which isn't deprecated |
| 10:07.09 | petan | because half of guides point to /etc/init.d and other half to ifup |
| 10:07.39 | Dagger | cisc: if it is, then I have no idea how you're supposed to do it |
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| 10:07.46 | petan | root@server:/home/petanb# ifdown eth1 >> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured |
| 10:07.57 | cisc | ip link |
| 10:08.01 | petan | root@server:/home/petanb# ifup eth1 >> RTNETLINK answers: File exists |
| 10:08.06 | petan | you see? |
| 10:08.12 | petan | ifup / ifdown doesn't work either |
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| 10:08.30 | cisc | ex: ip link set wlan0 up |
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| 10:08.56 | Dagger | cisc: that's the low-level command. ifup/ifdown is Debian's high-level wrapper |
| 10:09.09 | Dagger | `ip link` won't read /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:09.19 | petan | cisc: pls keep in mind that the interface is actually working fine, I only have problem with ipv6 address that stopped working |
| 10:09.26 | Brigo | petan, check your gateway configuration |
| 10:09.35 | Brigo | petan, you can have only one. |
| 10:09.37 | Dagger | (`ifconfig` is the deprecated low-level command) |
| 10:09.42 | petan | cisc: it still says that ipv6 is configured and I can even ping it from localhost, but people from internet can't |
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| 10:09.55 | Brigo | i have to go, sorry. |
| 10:10.01 | petan | then address is 2a01:430:224::81 should be reachable fine |
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| 10:11.13 | Dagger | petan: maybe `ifdown --force eth1; ifup eth1` (the ifdown will disable networking, mind) |
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| 10:11.38 | Andrew | halo |
| 10:11.40 | petan | ok I will try that |
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| 10:13.20 | petan | ok I am now getting response from another machine in same DC, can someone pls try ping6 2a01:430:224::81 |
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| 10:14.09 | JeremyE77 | --- 2a01:430:224::81 ping statistics --- |
| 10:14.09 | JeremyE77 | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms |
| 10:14.15 | petan | great ty |
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| 10:14.26 | petan | seems it worked, ty Dagger |
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| 10:15.12 | RayzrShrp | so mystica555_ do i actually have to run that script or just edit it? |
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| 10:16.47 | NooB | trying to install termite emulator and get error: termite.cc:31:21: fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory |
| 10:16.54 | mystica555_ | you have to edit the script; then probably run it with cron or something to make nice graphs on schedule |
| 10:17.02 | mystica555_ | or if not that, then it may be callable as CGI |
| 10:17.04 | mystica555_ | depends |
| 10:17.10 | mystica555_ | i havent set it up |
| 10:17.12 | mystica555_ | just looked in the file |
| 10:17.13 | Dagger | petan: so basically, ifdown did nothing because it was confused about the state of the interface, and ifup didn't work because it was confused too and tried to add an address that was already there |
| 10:17.25 | Dagger | normally you won't need the --force |
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| 10:18.42 | petan | I am wondering if /etc/init.d is not recommended, how would you restart whole networking, eg. all interfaces |
| 10:18.51 | petan | would you need to go in loop for all of them? |
| 10:18.57 | petan | or is there command to do it for every iface |
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| 10:24.30 | NooB | any alternative to termite..urxvt not a fan of due to fonts |
| 10:25.00 | NooB | something nice and lightweight |
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| 10:33.12 | Dagger | petan: `ifdown -a; ifup -a` will do all interfaces marked as "auto" in /e/n/i |
| 10:35.31 | RayzrShrp | mystica555_: im not understandint what this pnrg-create.pl file is for |
| 10:35.47 | RayzrShrp | mystica555_: i dont see it getting called anywhere |
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| 10:36.20 | Gerritjan | can sombody help me with the following error /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3: No such file or directory i can seem to find it anywhere in a package |
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| 10:41.04 | mystica555_ | RayzrShrp: thats a fairly barebones thing as well.. |
| 10:41.14 | mystica555_ | theres a few more listed at pmacct.net under "links" |
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| 10:41.29 | mystica555_ | i think you call it yourself with cron to generate graphs/html |
| 10:41.33 | mystica555_ | but maybe manually |
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| 10:41.37 | mystica555_ | or maybe its a CGI script |
| 10:41.39 | mystica555_ | i dont know yet |
| 10:41.44 | mystica555_ | i havent really looked that far |
| 10:41.54 | meth | How to fix font spacing in all terminals |
| 10:42.07 | meth | spacing between chars |
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| 10:42.49 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, should be in the abi package, which debian is this? |
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| 10:46.33 | Gerritjan | let me see |
| 10:46.56 | Gerritjan | deb 8 |
| 10:47.00 | Gerritjan | gtk |
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| 10:48.11 | Gerritjan | because i get this error not with the Raspberry :S |
| 10:48.32 | Gerritjan | and i want to test if the program is working on debian self so i can but it in there |
| 10:48.51 | teraflops | meth: use a /monospace/ font. Or just fix your configuration since it seems you didn't set the font family correctly |
| 10:48.56 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, its automatically installed along with libc6, so try `apt-cache search ld-linux-armhf.so.3` to see if it was. At least on armhf in SID. not sure for 8. |
| 10:48.58 | hiya | What could be the problem behind freezing "Hexchat" Specially when Iceweasel is on? |
| 10:49.06 | hiya | on a "i5-4th laptop" |
| 10:49.22 | meth | teraflops: OK |
| 10:49.28 | Gerritjan | dutchfish: i get nothing |
| 10:49.47 | teraflops | meth: what terminal emulator are you using? |
| 10:50.10 | Gerritjan | dutchfish: and libc is installed |
| 10:50.35 | meth | teraflops: on all terminals |
| 10:50.38 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, maybe it is not in stable, or named differently see also https://packages.debian.org/sid/armhf/libc6/filelist. I am not sure about that. |
| 10:50.44 | meth | i thin it's system wide too |
| 10:50.46 | meth | think |
| 10:51.08 | Gerritjan | dutchfish: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 must be in there |
| 10:51.40 | teraflops | meth: that does not make sense. Each terminal is configured in a different way. |
| 10:52.22 | meth | right now it's the KDE terminal " Konosol" |
| 10:52.47 | meth | on XFCE Terminal the space between chars are m much tighter |
| 10:53.11 | Gerritjan | but i got the 64bit version and there is not in it |
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| 10:53.48 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, well, its also a PI thing (wheezy-like) |
| 10:53.57 | Gerritjan | yes o know |
| 10:54.46 | Gerritjan | but not on my pc :S |
| 10:55.17 | teraflops | meth: im not aware at how kde works, so no idea then. I suppose you can seta monospace family systemwide or just go to the terminal emulator options and pick one |
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| 10:55.29 | teraflops | set a* |
| 10:55.57 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/glibc.html |
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| 10:56.16 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, i couldnt find it |
| 10:56.29 | teraflops | note monospace is not the correct way to name it, but at least is a way to understand each other :P |
| 10:56.33 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, at least not for 8 |
| 10:57.12 | Gerritjan | nope :S |
| 10:57.15 | Gerritjan | damn |
| 10:57.24 | Gerritjan | how can i install it :s |
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| 10:58.12 | meth | teraflops: fixed it. i had to rename /etc/fonts/conf.d to conf.d.backup |
| 10:58.30 | meth | things looks better now, but i have to do a little tweaks. |
| 10:59.29 | teraflops | meth: hmm, for the next time play with fontconfig in ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf |
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| 11:01.11 | meth | it didn't effect anything |
| 11:01.13 | Gerritjan | dutchfish: i got version 2.1918 |
| 11:01.44 | meth | i'll move some confs to it's original folder "conf.d" and check which one did the issue. |
| 11:02.09 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, not, it will probably brake alot of stuff if you install it from sid. Unless you dist-upgrade to it, i dont recommend it. |
| 11:02.30 | teraflops | meth: deleting /etc/fonts/conf.d is a bad thing |
| 11:02.45 | Gerritjan | ahh so i can do nothing about it only install a lower version of debian? |
| 11:02.54 | meth | teraflops: i didn't delete it. |
| 11:03.06 | maxcool12345 | Can someone tell me why sound is not playing in my native desktop apps like VLC but is being perfectly played when I play something on browser like youtube?? |
| 11:03.14 | teraflops | meth: you movet it away so it's the same as deleting |
| 11:03.17 | maxcool12345 | I am using Ubuntu-Gnome |
| 11:03.25 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, no the opposit, you need a newer version for that lib |
| 11:03.35 | meth | i renamed it. |
| 11:03.42 | Gerritjan | yes but when i download it i cant install it |
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| 11:04.00 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, or backport it, but that would be quiet arcane. |
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| 11:04.08 | teraflops | meth: reinstall fontconfig so the configs are regenerated and do not touch there, play in ~/ |
| 11:04.25 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, almost everything depends on that |
| 11:04.27 | meth | OK :( |
| 11:04.35 | teraflops | meth: mv is the same as rm regarding a cinfiguration file since it is not there anymore |
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| 11:05.17 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, in short, if this is for testing you could try sid, depending on your skillset |
| 11:05.35 | Gerritjan | skillset beginner |
| 11:06.06 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, or try a pi, with raspbian, the raspbian people did all that hard work. |
| 11:06.29 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, altho it is not complete yet |
| 11:06.30 | teraflops | meth: there are a lot of symlinks there for tunning fonts appeareance fallback etc etc. you can do the same in your ~/ (home) so you dont break fontconfig systemwyde |
| 11:06.43 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, my 2 cents |
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| 11:06.56 | Gerritjan | it works on the pi only i want to try it on the pc |
| 11:07.17 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, what you are trying to do? |
| 11:07.31 | Gerritjan | im building a program for the pi |
| 11:07.41 | suexec | Hello! Debian clients are getting IPv4 and IPv6 IPs from DHCP (as expected), but /etc/resolv.conf only has IPv6 IPs. How can I make debian request an ipv4 for dns as well ? |
| 11:07.51 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, your pc has a completely different ARCH likely, so you cant do that |
| 11:08.02 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, not directly |
| 11:08.16 | Gerritjan | oke but some thinks i can do :d like build a socket server |
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| 11:08.27 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, oh sure |
| 11:08.32 | Gerritjan | and client only the gio pins i cant do that |
| 11:08.53 | teraflops | suexec: tell the network admins to fix the dhcp server? |
| 11:09.12 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, why not virtualize it? on run a vm (sid) for that architecture on the pc? |
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| 11:09.33 | Gerritjan | but the best way is with eclipse and debugger :S |
| 11:09.37 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, kvm is your friend |
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| 11:09.41 | Gerritjan | kvm? |
| 11:09.48 | dutchfish | !kvm |
| 11:09.48 | dpkg | Kernel-based Virtual Machine (KVM) is a full <virtualization> solution for Linux hosts on x86 hardware with x86 guests. Packaged as qemu-kvm since Debian 6.0 "Squeeze". See http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions, also ask me about <xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:10.12 | dutchfish | oh thats old the factoid, but read the debian wiki about it |
| 11:10.14 | Gerritjan | dutchfish: like qemu? |
| 11:10.29 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, yes qemu/kvm |
| 11:10.39 | Gerritjan | i have that thats not the problem :D |
| 11:10.45 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, there are others as well |
| 11:10.47 | Gerritjan | haha |
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| 11:11.07 | dutchfish | well then, off you go |
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| 11:11.40 | Gerritjan | well i did try may sites with debugging pi with gdb but i need to know how i can debug the pins of the pi :s |
| 11:11.48 | suexec | teraflops, that would be me .. and ipv4 is provided for dns |
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| 11:12.07 | meth | teraflops: it's back again after reinstalling fontconfig |
| 11:12.11 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, well, since your pc hasnt gpio, that part wont work ....... |
| 11:12.28 | meth | it must be certain rule in these confs |
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| 11:12.55 | Gerritjan | no but thats why i have a pi and i need someway to debug that :D with eclipse or somthing else so i can see if the program is working |
| 11:12.56 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, unless there is some dummy driver for it |
| 11:12.58 | teraflops | suexec: at leat in linux you need 2 dhcp servers one for ipv6 and one for ipv4 so maybe the resolv.conf is overwrited with the last request (im just guessing) |
| 11:13.02 | teraflops | least* |
| 11:13.23 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, debug it on the PI, thats what i do at least |
| 11:13.33 | teraflops | meth: the conf.d dir? yeah that is the idea |
| 11:13.52 | Gerritjan | but how :s i cant find any good solution for debian / elcipse or something else |
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| 11:14.56 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, eclipse is just an IDE, you can set it up to do the editing on your pc and compile the stuff on the real thing |
| 11:15.10 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, eclipse remote development |
| 11:15.28 | teraflops | meth: by default those confings are sane, so the problem must be on our side, aka pebcak. |
| 11:15.30 | Gerritjan | with gdb server |
| 11:15.42 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, over ssh, yes |
| 11:15.46 | Gerritjan | dutchfish: i know that |
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| 11:15.55 | Gerritjan | yes |
| 11:15.55 | dutchfish | Gerritjan, read in eclipse online docs, have fun |
| 11:16.00 | Gerritjan | thx |
| 11:16.04 | dutchfish | yw |
| 11:16.10 | meth | teraflops: who are 'our side"? |
| 11:17.33 | teraflops | meth: it would be helpfull to know what family are you setting for the monospace fonts, it that font exists, if you have a config ~/ that overrides the system ones, or if you touch in the whetever KDE uses for setting up fonts themes or whatever |
| 11:17.58 | meth | OK |
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| 11:18.11 | teraflops | heh |
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| 11:20.33 | teraflops | suexec: how do you get the dual stack ip adresses. what network manager (if any) are you using. do you have something that overrides /etc/resolv.conf? as chattr the file, unbound or something like that? etc... |
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| 11:20.43 | phil__ | I'm looking for a USB stick fomatter and USB Image Writer, both with GUI if possible. Searched the repo's but not seeing anything. Any recommendations? |
| 11:20.55 | suexec | teraflops, nothing like that. Stock debian server 8.01 server install |
| 11:21.12 | suexec | teraflops, I have ipv4 and ipv6 dhcpservers on my network, and both reply to requests |
| 11:22.29 | r6ku | phil__: gparted? |
| 11:23.11 | phil__ | r6ku, did'nt think of that. TY |
| 11:23.11 | teraflops | suexec: i guess it's easy to find out. just do somthing like dhclient 4 iface with resolv.conf blank. look at what nameserver is added. then do the same but dhclient -6 and look at it again |
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| 11:25.20 | suexec | teraflops, RTNETLINK answers: File exists |
| 11:25.20 | teraflops | suexec: also, you use interfaces file or NM or what? whatever you use look at its configs for dns not being override |
| 11:25.35 | suexec | I think I need to install resolvconf |
| 11:25.36 | teraflops | suexec: sure because dhcp is already running :P |
| 11:25.49 | teraflops | dhclient I guess |
| 11:26.15 | teraflops | suexec: be carefull if you dont have phisical access to the server |
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| 11:26.40 | teraflops | you may lost connectivity if youre via ssh |
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| 11:27.35 | suexec | I have access |
| 11:27.36 | suexec | virtual machien |
| 11:27.38 | teraflops | so be warned i dont want to be blamed in this shinny saturday :P |
| 11:27.45 | suexec | No problem mate :) |
| 11:27.46 | teraflops | ah good |
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| 11:28.48 | suexec | so, dhclient is the one overriding resolv.conf all the time + |
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| 11:29.33 | suexec | resolv.conf gets written all the time .. and only contains the ipv6 entries |
| 11:29.59 | teraflops | suexec: yeah is what it does, so e.g if you tell both dhcp servers to set ine ipv4 nameserver and a ipv6 one i think is ok |
| 11:30.06 | teraflops | one* |
| 11:30.42 | Dagger | you can't tell DHCPv4 to give out a v6 server, or DHCPv6 to give out a v4 server |
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| 11:31.00 | suexec | What Dagger said |
| 11:31.34 | Dagger | installing resolvconf may help <-- total guess |
| 11:32.21 | Dagger | ah, which you already mentioned |
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| 11:34.18 | Dan9er111 | hi yall |
| 11:35.57 | teraflops | suexec: hmm dhcpv6 server does not let me give a ipv4 nameserver here |
| 11:36.45 | suexec | teraflops, that's expected behaviour :) |
| 11:36.52 | suexec | I believe resolvconf might have fixed my problem |
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| 11:41.31 | teraflops | I wish openresolv was in jessie |
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| 11:42.51 | dutchfish | normally you can let option routers somename.domain.tld, ipv6 for that is preferred anyway, there can only be max 3. |
| 11:42.54 | grawity | teraflops: pretty sure openresolv is in jessie |
| 11:43.10 | grawity | teraflops: it's called resolvconf |
| 11:43.21 | teraflops | ah hmm |
| 11:43.21 | dutchfish | that also doesnt break ipv4 clients |
| 11:44.24 | teraflops | grawity: then it doesnt look the same as in e.g archlinux, where i edit the /etc/resolvconf.conf file to my liking |
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| 11:44.49 | teraflops | there is a /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf but it does not look the same |
| 11:45.53 | teraflops | suexec: I wonder if you can set the dns-nameseervers in the interfaces file and if it get precedence over dhcp requests |
| 11:46.09 | suexec | teraflops, nope - got overwritten. But resolvconf fixed the problem for me |
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| 11:46.43 | teraflops | at last resort you can always chattr resolv.conf file ^ |
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| 11:47.36 | teraflops | suexec: ah nvm them |
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| 11:49.03 | teraflops | suexec: may I ask what did you do to fix the issue with resolvconf? |
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| 11:49.37 | suexec | teraflops, I just installed it.. I also edited the config file to make ipv4 have precedence .. but don't think that mattered. The default added an ipv4 dns for me |
| 11:49.58 | teraflops | suexec: what file? |
| 11:50.19 | suexec | teraflops, /etc/resolvconf/interface-order |
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| 11:50.28 | teraflops | ah thanks |
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| 11:53.08 | teraflops | hmm |
| 11:53.15 | meth | teraflops: fixed it as you recommended |
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| 11:53.45 | teraflops | meth: nice |
| 11:53.51 | meth | i grabbed a random fontconfig file from reddit and pasted the contents @ ~/.fonts.conf |
| 11:53.57 | teraflops | xD |
| 11:54.12 | meth | it looks pretty awesome better than my HiDPI iMac |
| 11:55.03 | teraflops | hmm I do dhcpv6/v4 server in debian and my laptop is arch, I do openresolv but it does not look the same as in debian |
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| 11:58.49 | JyZyXEL | why does debian jessie try to infinitely reconnect to timed out NFS shares? |
| 11:59.22 | JyZyXEL | and the mount point becomes infinitely blocking as well |
| 11:59.46 | JyZyXEL | every application that tries to access the mount point just becomes stuck forever |
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| 12:00.27 | mystica555_ | JyZyXEL: s/debian jessie/every nfs implementation ive ever used/g |
| 12:00.36 | mystica555_ | because nfs |
| 12:00.38 | JyZyXEL | this is horrible |
| 12:01.04 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: when it gets stuck I umount -l |
| 12:01.11 | mystica555_ | yay 1980s think in 2016.. |
| 12:01.13 | teraflops | --lazy |
| 12:01.24 | mystica555_ | nfs ftl sometimes |
| 12:01.59 | Amun_Ra | and there's newer glusterfs that makes me loving nfs again |
| 12:02.00 | JyZyXEL | how do you fix this issue? |
| 12:02.21 | JyZyXEL | i can not have network shares that freeze up clients when the share goes offline |
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| 12:05.30 | mystica555_ | dont have the share go offline |
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| 12:05.35 | mystica555_ | unmount before you go offline |
| 12:05.47 | mystica555_ | kill -9 the dead programs |
| 12:05.49 | mystica555_ | move on |
| 12:06.47 | mystica555_ | or use smamba |
| 12:06.49 | mystica555_ | *samba |
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| 12:06.54 | mystica555_ | iirc it has a timeout |
| 12:07.00 | mystica555_ | and smbv2 isnt as inefficient as smbv1 was |
| 12:07.35 | Mava | wtf is happenin here guys. debian 8 is negotiating 10mbit and half duplex, if the cord is replugged, 100mbit-full after that |
| 12:07.49 | mystica555_ | bad cable |
| 12:08.01 | mystica555_ | forced switchport setting when the nic is set to auto |
| 12:08.07 | mystica555_ | always auto:auto on both sides |
| 12:08.07 | Mava | mystica555_: tried three separate |
| 12:08.19 | Mava | using two different - though identical - zyxel modems |
| 12:08.40 | mystica555_ | very strange.. |
| 12:08.41 | petan | different, but identical |
| 12:08.42 | petan | lol |
| 12:08.54 | mystica555_ | 2 separate perhps might be the right term? |
| 12:08.58 | Mava | yeps, so - never use zyxel machines |
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| 12:09.26 | mystica555_ | JyZyXEL: ya hear that ;P |
| 12:09.54 | Mava | just .. this is like a ridicilous thing since it aint working like it should |
| 12:10.16 | petan | maybe it could be debian issue, does it work ok with other OSes? |
| 12:10.59 | Mava | petan: could be, like .. intresting since this contains SiS 191 controller |
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| 12:11.02 | Mava | never used =D |
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| 12:11.23 | Mava | but this machine have been working in few other networks as well.. |
| 12:11.24 | petan | for example I have this gentoo laptop with switching graphics that work fine on windoze but doesn't in gentoo with any possible driver combo |
| 12:11.51 | petan | some hardware just doesn't work (yet) in linux... but networking swhould be ok I guess |
| 12:12.43 | Mava | just tell me about switching graphics |
| 12:13.08 | Mava | but, this scenario is like an.. interesting thing |
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| 12:23.40 | phil__ | new debian user question: is it necessary to add my name to sudoers. Tried running a cli command as sudo and it did'nt like it. Logged in as root and it was fine. |
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| 12:27.03 | bazhang | ,v sudo |
| 12:27.04 | judd | Package: sudo on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.4; squeeze: 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.4; squeeze-security-lts: 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.6; squeeze-backports: 1.8.5p2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.8.5p2-1+nmu3; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.8.5p2-1+nmu3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1.8.5p2-1+nmu3+deb7u1; jessie-security: 1.8.10p3-1+deb8u3; jessie: 1.8.10p3-1+deb8u3; stretch: 1.8.15-1.1; sid: 1.8.15-1.1 |
| 12:27.21 | mystica555_ | phil__: obvious answer sounds obvious; your user must be part of the group; if you dont have sudo, get it |
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| 12:27.38 | mystica555_ | (or at least, your user must match a group or user explicitly listed in the sudoers file) |
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| 12:28.00 | dutchfish | phil__, it is not obligatory, but constantly logging in and out as root is cumbersome and prone to errors |
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| 12:28.26 | meth | Now another issue with sudo and graphical application from command line. |
| 12:28.37 | mystica555_ | meth: gksudo/kdesudo |
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| 12:28.49 | phil__ | hate to touch sudoers (sounds prone to trouble) but will. TY to all. |
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| 12:29.01 | mystica555_ | sudoers may just need the 'sudo' group uncommented |
| 12:29.03 | mystica555_ | if at all |
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| 12:29.11 | mystica555_ | or you may need to usermod yourself to add that group |
| 12:29.24 | meth | mystica555_: cool |
| 12:29.43 | mystica555_ | those keep the right X auth variables in play |
| 12:29.49 | meth | aha |
| 12:29.51 | mystica555_ | and have a nice password prompt to boot |
| 12:30.56 | phil__ | mystica555_, thanks again. |
| 12:31.12 | mystica555_ | youre welcome :) |
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| 12:32.58 | meth | mystica555_: Thanks as well. |
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| 12:33.09 | mystica555_ | yw as well :) |
| 12:33.43 | mystica555_ | theres probably some modification that can be made to the sudo config that would allow it to not strip the X auth stuff; ive not gone as far as to look |
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| 12:39.53 | two-gun | hello everyone i'm playing around at this level for the first time. got i3 working on debian. want to try out ncmp cpp music player and ran into usb mounting trouble (first time without a desktop). I've followed this guide http:/ /www.axllent.org/docs /view/auto-mounting-usb-storage/ and i'm able to mount usb to /media/ but i don't know how t o remove it safely. Where the script says |
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| 12:39.55 | two-gun | "ACTION=="remove",", how do I call that? i'm trying out ranger as an FS. thanks |
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| 12:41.38 | two-gun | sorry, let me post that link again... http://www.axllent.org/docs/view/auto-mounting-usb-storage/ |
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| 12:42.59 | Brigo | two-gun, i don't know i3, in mate you have a button near the mount device icon. |
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| 12:44.46 | teraflops | two-gun: umount /wherever/thedevice/is/mounted? |
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| 12:55.43 | Insun | Hello everyone |
| 12:56.10 | Insun | is anyone know why make_ext4fs never exit on Debian 8? |
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| 12:56.25 | Phanes | hello. does debian have working fglrx? |
| 12:56.46 | Insun | ./mkimage.sh |
| 12:56.47 | Insun | TARGET_PRODUCT=rk3368_32 |
| 12:56.47 | Insun | TARGET_HARDWARE=rk30board |
| 12:56.47 | Insun | system filesysystem is ext4 |
| 12:56.47 | Insun | create boot.img without kernel... done. |
| 12:56.47 | Insun | create recovery.img with kernel and with out resource... done. |
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| 12:57.21 | Phanes | this is the 4th channel ive asked this about and been met with silence, im compiling fglrx on another distro and am running to compiler issues, need to see what patches were used in one of the distros it was working in so i can document it and send it upstream for my distro |
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| 12:58.20 | Insun | make_ext4fs running abnormal on Debian8 |
| 12:58.32 | mystica555_ | fglrx is just always an issue.. |
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| 12:58.35 | mystica555_ | ive gone the way of radeonsi |
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| 12:58.58 | Phanes | anybody know if the fglrx package is working in debian? |
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| 13:00.09 | dutchfish | Phanes, what works for me and my card doesnt neccesarely work for your setup. Start here https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary. If you have very specific questions ask in here. |
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| 13:00.51 | dutchfish | Phanes, its not straightforward and lots of pitfalls |
| 13:01.03 | Phanes | I am asking about the source patches used in the package and if fglrx is working currently on debian. None of this is relevant to my question |
| 13:01.11 | dutchfish | Phanes, document your steps and safe your logs |
| 13:01.19 | Phanes | good lord |
| 13:02.00 | dutchfish | Phanes, this is very relevant, so far i havent seen any pastes from you of any logs while trying to compile it. |
| 13:02.37 | dutchfish | Phanes, dont be angry with me, i am just trying to help |
| 13:03.05 | Phanes | ok, is there another debian channel where I can find this out from, or a public testing log for packages, or do the .deb packages have logs or steps on what was done from the original source? im looking to see if 1) what patches were used and 2) if fglrx is confirmed working on debian. Stop trying to fix my issue as it's related to the source and please just tell me where I can find out. |
| 13:03.38 | nkuttler | Phanes: apt-get source <pkg> will get you the source package, inclusing patches |
| 13:03.46 | Phanes | im begging you not to try to troubleshoot, I just need a simple answer to very, very simple questions. i dont have apt-get, is there a way to check? |
| 13:04.00 | nkuttler | !tell Phanes about pdo |
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| 13:05.25 | Phanes | perfect, thanks nkuttler, making progress here |
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| 13:05.54 | Phanes | so I see you have broken amd's provided stuff into several packages, like libfglrx, fglrx-source, fglrx-driver et al |
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| 13:06.49 | amosb | Hello! Is there a way I can remap 'Ctrl-L' to 'Return' and 'Ctrl-h' to 'Backspace'? I've tried 'sxkbd', 'xbindkeys' with 'xdotool', neither works. |
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| 13:07.37 | nkuttler | amosb: xmodmap? |
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| 13:09.49 | amosb | nkuttler: xmodmap cannot remap 'Ctrl-xxx' |
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| 13:12.24 | Phanes | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/fglrx-source/filelist |
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| 13:12.33 | Phanes | So this is a very unusual breakdown from what im used to seeing, is /usr/share/../overrides/fglrx-source where patches would go there? |
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| 13:14.51 | Phanes | found it: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-fglrx/fglrx-driver/trunk/debian/patches/12-4.3.0-build.patch?revision=1549&view=markup |
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| 13:20.06 | Phanes | nkuttler, dutchfish, here are my efforts so far in troubleshooting this: http://blog.surroindustries.com/fglrx-on-fedora-23/ |
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| 13:32.53 | dutchfish | Phanes, are you sure that fglrx version is ment for that kernel, all i could find is 3.2.x for the approriate kernel |
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| 13:34.14 | dutchfish | Phanes, assuming you want fglrx-15.302 |
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| 13:36.08 | dutchfish | Phanes, since Fedora does not have XOrg version 6.8.X |
| 13:36.32 | dutchfish | its a mess .... |
| 13:36.48 | hiya | What could be the problem behind freezing "Hexchat" Specially when Iceweasel is on? |
| 13:36.49 | hiya | on a "i5-4th laptop" |
| 13:36.59 | hiya | Intel graphics |
| 13:37.11 | hiya | Does Intel graphics work only with Main repo? |
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| 13:40.06 | dutchfish | Phanes, you might want to take a peak at Leigh scotts work in rpmfusion .... (sorry for all the offtopic) |
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| 14:38.33 | liske1 | Hi ;) |
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| 14:47.29 | Phanes | dutchfish, no i want the newer version as I have downgraded Xorg for this already |
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| 14:48.26 | Phanes | Leigh Scott rpmfusion, got it. Good call actually as they may have stuff in testing not yet released. Someone, somewhere knows what's being done to fglrx in the distroes that it does work in (like debian, ubuntu) |
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| 14:49.39 | Phanes | i can make the system requirements work, my concern is the source issues in the release that have been patched by the distros as these are not just bugs, they're outright syntax issues in some cases |
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| 14:50.43 | Phanes | in the first place i checked on my first build attempt the released code being compiled for themodule had a void return function being used to assign a value to a non-void type |
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| 15:03.24 | heap_ | hi, i cant find targetcli package |
| 15:03.28 | heap_ | its debian 8.0 |
| 15:03.39 | heap_ | its not part of the official repo? |
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| 15:09.35 | Rephlexie | heap_, i dont see it listed for jessie |
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| 15:09.46 | heap_ | thats weird why? |
| 15:11.10 | shibly | Which thing is most important to know about debian? |
| 15:11.33 | lesta | 42? |
| 15:11.39 | heap_ | Rephlexie: means i cant use it? |
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| 15:12.30 | heap_ | ah so what iscsii target can i use then? |
| 15:12.54 | Rephlexie | heap_, no idea, obscure python lib maybe, no idea. its on wheezy though, could try the backport route. |
| 15:13.18 | heap_ | Rephlexie: by backport route you mean? |
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| 15:14.09 | dutchfish | Phanes, i am not an expert on this, but if you still have questions about it, for the debian release, ask in here. |
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| 15:14.21 | Rephlexie | look it up on packages.debian.org |
| 15:14.53 | heap_ | aptitude -t jessie-backports search targetcli |
| 15:14.53 | heap_ | root@universe:/home/debian/skripty# |
| 15:14.58 | heap_ | nothing |
| 15:16.25 | heap_ | well no idea then |
| 15:17.27 | Rephlexie | yeah last commit was 2 years ago it seems |
| 15:17.39 | heap_ | is there anything else for iscsi target? |
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| 15:18.56 | Rephlexie | iscsitarget |
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| 15:19.40 | heap_ | its better then open-iscsi? |
| 15:20.13 | heap_ | The iSCSI Enterprise Target (IET) is an old implementation and SCSI Target Subsystem (SCST) is the successor of IET and was a possible candidate for kernel inclusion before the decision fell for LIO. |
| 15:20.23 | heap_ | i think targetcli should be the best |
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| 15:20.30 | heap_ | but they removed it from jessie this is odd |
| 15:20.46 | heap_ | The current standard is the LIO target. |
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| 15:23.28 | Rephlexie | iscsitarget looks well maintained, should be on stable list as well. |
| 15:23.39 | heap_ | https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/38n7v6/lio_iscsi_target_in_debian_8/ |
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| 15:24.49 | Rephlexie | https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/lscsitarget.html |
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| 15:25.37 | heap_ | these packages from reddit are bit old ^^ |
| 15:26.16 | heap_ | Rephlexie: the link doesnt work |
| 15:27.46 | Rephlexie | sorry my bad, new cherry mx keyboard, still getting used to it |
| 15:27.51 | Rephlexie | https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iscsitarget.html |
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| 15:28.59 | heap_ | ok got it , thanks |
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| 15:33.26 | heap_ | make KERNELRELEASE=4.4.0 -C /lib/modules/4.4.0/build M=/var/lib/dkms/iscsitarget/1.4.20.3+svn502/build........(bad exit status: 2) |
| 15:33.29 | heap_ | hm |
| 15:33.32 | heap_ | wonderful. |
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| 15:40.19 | heap_ | Rephlexie: apparently its broken crap ;-) |
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| 15:40.53 | Rephlexie | uhg.. thats frustrating. |
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| 15:41.55 | heap_ | yes |
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| 15:42.13 | heap_ | i really dont believe if there is any working linux distro |
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| 15:43.48 | heap_ | who need running kernel these days |
| 15:44.06 | heap_ | needs* |
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| 15:44.49 | Rephlexie | you trying to revive something dusty in a cabinet? reminds me of 2 weeks wasted on a tape drive. |
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| 15:46.13 | heap_ | Rephlexie: how do you mean it |
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| 15:48.08 | heap_ | it looks like you cant use iscsitarget with kernel 4.4x |
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| 15:51.30 | heap_ | or maybe one should build its own distro :D |
| 15:54.43 | heap_ | got headache |
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| 15:58.45 | heap_ | Rephlexie: thats why targetcli is the best, directly inside kernel, no need to build extra kernel modules and solving incopatibilities |
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| 15:59.38 | Rephlexie | you get it running? |
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| 15:59.49 | heap_ | yes |
| 15:59.56 | heap_ | i compiled targetcli app |
| 15:59.57 | heap_ | manually |
| 16:00.01 | Rephlexie | sweet man, awesome to hear |
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| 16:00.13 | heap_ | as suggested on that reddit pae |
| 16:00.14 | heap_ | page |
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| 16:00.27 | Rephlexie | nice! |
| 16:00.49 | RafaelK1 | hello, |
| 16:00.50 | RafaelK1 | i'll try to install debian on armhf based board. I'm tackling on https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/armhf/ch05s01.html.en |
| 16:00.50 | RafaelK1 | Do i need serial console for all available variants? |
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| 16:02.11 | RafaelK1 | or is there some installer variant available, to use debian-installer over HDMI with Keyboard/Mouse? |
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| 16:02.49 | markybob | RafaelK1: you're in the wrong place |
| 16:02.56 | markybob | !armhf |
| 16:02.57 | dpkg | armhf is a port of Debian requiring a floating-point unit (FPU) found in modern <ARM> hardware. It explicitly targets version 7 of the ARM architecture (i.e. not the Raspberry Pi), using the hard-float version of the ARM EABI. The armhf architecture was introduced at Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. See also <armel vs armhf>. |
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| 16:03.58 | bedah | hi. my big PC freezes sometimes, any recommendation how to find out whether it's the cpu, the ram or anything else? brand new debian testing, i have no pattern when the freezes occur |
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| 16:04.30 | bedah | i will upgrade this old amd phenom pc in the next time, but i wonder what causes the freezing |
| 16:04.40 | markybob | bedah: you're in the wrong place as well. debian testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 16:04.56 | bedah | ok, happend before on stable too ;) |
| 16:05.02 | bedah | so.. sorry.. |
| 16:05.10 | r6ku | bedah: hdd issue? |
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| 16:05.30 | RafaelK1 | markybob: what do you mean with wrong place? Where is the right place :-P? |
| 16:05.42 | markybob | RafaelK1: i told you. #debian-arm |
| 16:05.45 | heap_ | im wondering where is storred fqn domain name? hostname shows only server |
| 16:06.03 | bedah | new HGST hdd, r6ku. no logs in /var/log found |
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| 16:06.16 | bedah | no logs prior to the freeze |
| 16:06.45 | markybob | *if* it's hardware i'd guess ram. so many variables when you throw testing into it, though |
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| 16:08.35 | markybob | bedah: you could run memtest from grub |
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| 16:09.00 | bedah | installing memtest now.. |
| 16:09.41 | bedah | and afterwards: smart tools, cpuburn. i will see |
| 16:11.12 | hiya | This Connection is Untrusted |
| 16:11.20 | hiya | paste.opensuse.org ^ |
| 16:11.23 | hiya | is it just for me? |
| 16:11.26 | hiya | or for you too? |
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| 16:12.26 | markybob | hiya: yes, it's untrusted |
| 16:12.55 | hiya | ok |
| 16:13.05 | hiya | Why does Iceweasel show This Connection is Untrusted a lot? |
| 16:13.07 | hiya | :) |
| 16:13.13 | hiya | Is Iceweasel not updating something? |
| 16:13.21 | markybob | hiya: i don't use iceweasel so i don't know. use https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 16:13.40 | hiya | ok |
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| 16:13.47 | hiya | markybob, just asking :) |
| 16:13.50 | dontknow | hiya, paste opensuse doesn't use https for me |
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| 16:14.21 | hiya | dontknow, I use https everywhere |
| 16:14.29 | dontknow | me too |
| 16:14.37 | hiya | wtf? |
| 16:14.43 | hiya | it is not possible |
| 16:14.48 | dontknow | it may be related my configuration |
| 16:15.03 | markybob | hiya: i can tell you why chromium says it's untrusted. "server's certificate does not match the url" |
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| 16:16.09 | dontknow | i manually entered. it is untrusted |
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| 16:19.10 | hiya | dontknow, ok :) |
| 16:19.13 | hiya | markybob, I see |
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| 16:24.43 | mykhailyk | @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ |
| 16:24.58 | mykhailyk | how to fix that without modifying known_hosts file ? |
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| 16:25.19 | mykhailyk | is there way to rewrite the fingerprint by the ssh |
| 16:25.20 | mykhailyk | ? |
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| 16:26.08 | markybob | mykhailyk: sure. ssh-keygen -R server.name.com |
| 16:26.31 | markybob | mykhailyk: or for every host just rm /.ssh/known_hosts |
| 16:26.38 | mykhailyk | wow thanks |
| 16:26.46 | mykhailyk | yea, i didn't want to remove known_hosts |
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| 16:26.53 | mykhailyk | but it's wwhat i usually been doing |
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| 16:40.38 | rokototou | how can i install newest mesa to wheezy? |
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| 16:43.06 | TomTomTosch | mesa install wheezy? how rude! apt-get install mesa? |
| 16:43.35 | TomTomTosch | rokototou, but you will not get the newest so easily. |
| 16:43.37 | rokototou | r u crazy? i need latest mesa not the standard |
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| 16:43.56 | rokototou | that's why i ask here |
| 16:44.05 | TomTomTosch | shrugs |
| 16:44.32 | markybob | rokototou: you don't install latest anything on wheezy. that's silly |
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| 16:45.36 | rokototou | i need only mesa nothing more |
| 16:45.47 | rokototou | i installed kernel 4.4.0 |
| 16:45.49 | markybob | rokototou: still not happening |
| 16:45.51 | rokototou | it works! |
| 16:46.00 | rokototou | now i need mesa |
| 16:46.01 | markybob | rokototou: i'm sure the kernel would |
| 16:46.05 | markybob | heh |
| 16:46.11 | rokototou | then why mesa would not? |
| 16:47.49 | heap_ | anyone who can help with targetcli? |
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| 16:49.13 | heap_ | im getting iSCSI Login negotiation failed. |
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| 16:52.09 | TomTomTosch | ,checkbackport mesa --fromrelease sid --torelease wheezy |
| 16:52.10 | judd | Backporting package mesa in sidâwheezy/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libdrm-dev (>= 2.4.65) [!hurd-any], libvdpau-dev (>= 1.1.1) [linux-any kfreebsd-any], x11proto-dri3-dev (>= 1.0), x11proto-present-dev (>= 1.0), libxshmfence-dev (>= 1.1), llvm-3.7-dev (>= 1:3.7~+rc2) [amd64 i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 armhf ppc64el], libwayland-dev (>= 1.2.0) [linux-any], libclang-3.7-dev |
| 16:52.11 | judd | (>= 1:3.7~+rc2) [amd64 i386 armhf], libclc-dev (>= 0.2.0+git20150813) [amd64 i386 armhf]. |
| 16:52.22 | TomTomTosch | rokototou, ^ that's why |
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| 16:52.46 | rokototou | can't i install all those packs? |
| 16:53.14 | markybob | rokototou: no |
| 16:53.23 | rokototou | bad |
| 16:53.32 | TomTomTosch | such is life |
| 16:53.45 | dontknow | rokototou, dont do that. they may also require different dependencies |
| 16:53.53 | rokototou | maybe i don't need that mesa. who knows kvm? |
| 16:54.06 | rokototou | i managed to use virtual gpu |
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| 16:54.31 | rokototou | but i think it won't work gl=on without latest mesa |
| 16:55.20 | dontknow | rokototou, i don't think 3d acceleration can work with qemu/kvm |
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| 16:55.41 | rokototou | it works |
| 16:55.56 | dontknow | rokototou, how did you manage that? |
| 16:55.58 | rokototou | but i need lastest mesa for that in guest too |
| 16:56.11 | rokototou | if you tell me how to install latest mesa i can check |
| 16:56.25 | rokototou | so far i get same speed for 2d as on host! |
| 16:56.31 | markybob | rokototou: what part of "you can't" don't you understand? |
| 16:56.36 | rokototou | i just start without gl=on |
| 16:57.00 | rokototou | i understand no need need to repeat |
| 16:57.11 | markybob | so stop asking |
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| 16:57.27 | rokototou | don't order |
| 16:57.34 | rokototou | someone may hack |
| 16:57.45 | TomTomTosch | !hack markybob |
| 16:57.45 | dpkg | 0WnZ markybob and steals all of the p0rn on the hard drive. |
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| 16:58.33 | markybob | TomTomTosch: i'm on a fresh install. no porn ...yet :P |
| 16:58.37 | dontknow | rokototou, what flag do you use for that. tell me please |
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| 16:59.12 | rokototou | dontknow: first you install 4.4.0 or higher kernel on host |
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| 16:59.40 | rokototou | you must check that virtual gpu is ON before compiling the kernel |
| 16:59.51 | dontknow | i see |
| 16:59.57 | rokototou | and choose your driver in .config |
| 17:00.28 | rokototou | then you should install latest mesa and install the same kernel and mesa on guiest os |
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| 17:01.40 | dontknow | rokototou, ok but you cant install latest mesa on wheezy |
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| 17:01.56 | rokototou | then start qemu like qemu-system-x86_64 -vga virtio -display gtk,gl=on and you can play 3d games |
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| 17:02.09 | rokototou | i can't either |
| 17:02.23 | rokototou | that's why i can have only 2d without gl=on |
| 17:02.48 | TomTomTosch | great. try arch or whatever... |
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| 17:05.41 | Jackneill | hey |
| 17:05.55 | Jackneill | the debian 1 iso what kind of wm/de-s does it have? |
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| 17:11.58 | thomasfuston | Aloha, i just try to install debian with network installer on a new notebook, but it said there is firmware missing, i followed the instructions and downloaded the latest firmware-realtek for testing |
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| 17:12.13 | thomasfuston | but it still doesnt find the firmware |
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| 17:12.59 | markybob | thomasfuston: that's why you should use the installer with firmware already included. much easier. cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 17:14.10 | thomasfuston | so the only way is download ddebian again? meh^^ ok thx markybob |
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| 17:15.27 | dontknow | thomasfuston, is it an ethernet firmware? |
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| 17:15.37 | thomasfuston | its realtek firmware |
| 17:15.52 | dontknow | but is it ethernet? |
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| 17:16.12 | thomasfuston | nope wlan |
| 17:16.15 | dontknow | if so it may work without installing firmware |
| 17:16.17 | dontknow | oh ok |
| 17:16.43 | thomasfuston | i already tried and ignoring the message, this worked on my last notebook, but this one wont install without the firmware |
| 17:17.05 | markybob | thomasfuston: yes. use the firmware installer |
| 17:17.38 | TomTomTosch | thomasfuston, that's why you check with https://www.h-node.org/ before buying hardware :P |
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| 17:18.11 | thomasfuston | TomTomTosch: Funny boi? :) hardware is supported but unlucky me not out of the box |
| 17:18.35 | markybob | thomasfuston: it is with the firmware installer. c'mon |
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| 17:19.09 | TomTomTosch | guess my point went over his head... |
| 17:19.23 | dontknow | thomasfuston, because it is non-free |
| 17:19.47 | dontknow | it deserves to be trash |
| 17:20.58 | thomasfuston | from casual user perspective its nonesense, if it works with non-free software its still "supported" |
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| 17:21.34 | thomasfuston | markybob: thx for the help, i gonna use those installers now with non-free included |
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| 17:24.17 | Jackneill | hey |
| 17:24.25 | Jackneill | does debian have a gui autoupdate |
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| 17:24.27 | Jackneill | ? |
| 17:24.43 | Jackneill | which alerst me like linux mint or ubuntu does? |
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| 17:24.58 | Jackneill | also which de/wm do you recommend for 1 gb ram? |
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| 17:27.15 | LambdaComplex | is gonna say "BSPWM" because he likes it |
| 17:27.17 | r6ku | Jackneill: maybe gnome or kde has autoupdates? otherwise there's always https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades. xfce,lxde or mate should work fine on 1gb |
| 17:27.29 | LambdaComplex | >gnome or kde on 1gb of ram |
| 17:27.31 | LambdaComplex | dear god |
| 17:28.28 | TomTomTosch | LambdaComplex, you don't need to run gnome to use the tools :P |
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| 17:29.30 | peteyy | Hi, I just switched to debian, and I'd like to switch to SID version anyone familiar with that? |
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| 17:30.03 | Jackneill | well complete distros like linux mint or ubuntu just work so if theres an update a tray icon pops up saying to update then a click, pw type, enter does the job |
| 17:30.05 | Lowl3v3l | petemc, you dont want to use sid |
| 17:30.15 | Jackneill | i want the same on debian with xfce |
| 17:30.27 | Jackneill | so the terminal doesnt need to be opened ever. |
| 17:30.32 | Jackneill | (it would be for my father) |
| 17:30.37 | LambdaComplex | Lowl3v3l: and what if he does? |
| 17:31.03 | Lowl3v3l | LambdaComplex, "just switched to debian" and "i want sid" dont fit together xD |
| 17:31.06 | peteyy | most people who use it say it's fine |
| 17:31.20 | peteyy | I've been using Arch for quite a while now |
| 17:31.28 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, sid is debian UNSTABLE. |
| 17:31.44 | peteyy | so what? |
| 17:31.47 | peteyy | It might break? |
| 17:31.50 | peteyy | I'll take it |
| 17:32.07 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, i know a maintainer. and he is fiddling with it all the time because even normal upgrades or meta packages WILL break it all the time xD |
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| 17:32.34 | peteyy | I also know somebody who told me that in 5 years nothing broke for him |
| 17:32.44 | r6ku | he got lucky |
| 17:33.00 | peteyy | but all the latest packages are always in sid |
| 17:33.05 | peteyy | takes too long time to wait |
| 17:33.09 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, i stick with the german debian wiki : if you cant create a sources.list for unstable you should stick with stable. |
| 17:33.13 | peteyy | how do you handle that? |
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| 17:33.42 | peteyy | I could, I was about to ask if I have to enable testing too or unstable alone is fine |
| 17:33.53 | r6ku | just unstable is fine |
| 17:34.12 | peteyy | and should prioritize it over the stable repos or completely remove the stable ones? |
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| 17:36.22 | peteyy | Or maybe I'll just stick with stable for a while |
| 17:36.36 | peteyy | How do you guys handle those things that are missing from the repos? |
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| 17:37.05 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, dont know much things that are "missing". |
| 17:37.11 | Lowl3v3l | and i am building the rest myself |
| 17:37.51 | TomTomTosch | just to answer the initial question: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallFAQ#Q._How_do_I_install_.22unstable.22_.28.22sid.22.29.3F |
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| 17:38.53 | peteyy | Lowl3v3l: right now I have a Projects directory and a .bin folder in my $HOME and things are symlinked, do you have a better way to do it/ |
| 17:39.00 | r6ku | Jackneill: the gui updater that gnome uses is gnome-packagekit |
| 17:39.11 | peteyy | in Projects I keep the sources and the .bin is for the built binaries |
| 17:39.42 | TomTomTosch | peteyy, you could add your bin directory to $PATH |
| 17:39.52 | peteyy | I did |
| 17:40.02 | peteyy | that's the point of my .bin :P |
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| 17:40.35 | peteyy | I'm just wondering if there is any better way to manage the packages I got to build myself |
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| 17:40.54 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, using the apropriate folders from FHS ;) |
| 17:41.58 | peteyy | Lowl3v3l: what do you mean? |
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| 17:44.44 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, the file hierarchy standard^^ |
| 17:46.09 | CsuSm | I have a problem. I deleted my boot partition several day ago and have not been able to recover it. To fix it, I installed the same image with the same parameters on a flash drive and then copied that boot partition on to my hard drive. I am now getting an error that indicates that the vmlinuz image searches for the root partition by uuid and it ca |
| 17:46.09 | CsuSm | n find my hard drive. To make things more complicated, my hd is lvm+LUKS. Should I try to fix my system, or abandon it and reinstall? |
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| 17:46.48 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, so i install the stuff in appropriate directories like /opt or /usr/local^^ |
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| 17:49.26 | wigust_ | CsuSm, you need to boot with recovery-cd, chroot into installed system, reinstall grub |
| 17:50.16 | CsuSm | Okay thanks I will try that |
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| 17:52.11 | peteyy | Lowl3v3l: and what about the sources? |
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| 17:54.15 | Lowl3v3l | peteyy, /usr/src^^ |
| 17:55.30 | Azrael_- | how can i run debootstrap for jessie on squeeze? (currently there is no jessie-script in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ |
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| 18:11.48 | peteyy | is there a debian-next channel? |
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| 18:13.37 | TomTomTosch | !debian-next |
| 18:13.37 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:18.35 | ecom | I'm on Debian 8.3 and I use i3wm. I installed firefox by downloading the tarball. I created a systemlink to it in /usr/local/bin. In my i3 config, I have set a binding to it so it runs "exec --no-startup-id firefox", but nothing happens when I press on my bindings. |
| 18:18.46 | blahman123 | Hi guys.... I have an unusual situation.. I need to install a 4tb hard drive into a machine running debian 4 (due to an old ISA card otherwise I would have upgraded a long time ago) The bios picks up the 4tb hd however dmesg doesnt show me a sdb at all.. any tips would be appreciated its kernl 2.6.18-4-686 |
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| 18:18.59 | bitanarchy | I cannot install the grub bootloader in /dev/sda. I just installed debian with dm-crypt, I created encrypted partition with LVM groups/volumes. Grub installed fine when I did not use dm-crypt |
| 18:20.54 | ecom | nevermind, I got it to work |
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| 18:21.13 | dontknow | bitanarchy, do you have seperate boot partition? |
| 18:21.19 | TomTomTosch | bitanarchy, you could try to put /boot on a seperate unencrypted partition. |
| 18:21.39 | bitanarchy | dontknow: no I never had that before, I think.... |
| 18:22.02 | bitanarchy | can I open a terminal from the installer? |
| 18:22.13 | dontknow | you have to use seperate unencrypted /boot partition as TomTomTosch said |
| 18:22.19 | jelly | blahman123: what about a /dev/hda or /dev/hdb? |
| 18:22.47 | blahman123 | jelly thanks.. its sata.. |
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| 18:22.58 | blahman123 | Oh a reboot shows something |
| 18:23.04 | jelly | blahman123: and your os is really old |
| 18:23.04 | mo1991reg | bitanarchy. DId you make sure to leave /boot unencrypted? |
| 18:23.18 | jelly | so "it's sata" really means nothing to me |
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| 18:23.30 | thenewone | Hi guys |
| 18:23.32 | mo1991reg | you need to have a seperate /boot that is unencrypted or grub will not install. Grub can't be installed to an encrypted partition |
| 18:23.34 | blahman123 | sdb : very big device. try to use READ CAPACITY(16). |
| 18:23.34 | blahman123 | sdb : unsupported sector size -1095827456. |
| 18:23.35 | thenewone | how can i enable iptables on debian8 |
| 18:23.45 | thenewone | i tryed sudo systemctl enable iptables.service |
| 18:23.48 | thenewone | didn't work |
| 18:23.54 | TomTomTosch | jelly, prob tried to hotplug,me thinks :P |
| 18:23.56 | jelly | blahman123: I'd use a disk smaller than 2TiB. |
| 18:24.17 | blahman123 | jelly thanks.. in theory it should work with that kernel right.. |
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| 18:25.03 | bitanarchy | I did not create a seperate boot partition |
| 18:25.08 | jelly | blahman123: it's really hard to say whether the kernel from etch is sufficiently non-buggy to work with large devices. |
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| 18:26.39 | thenewone | Guys any help about iptables ? |
| 18:26.47 | mo1991reg | bitanarchy - that's your problem then. you need /boot to be an unencrypted seperate partition. /boot is where grub installs. I've read that there is some way to do it with an /boot being encrypted as well, but this method is very new and requires additional steps - I wouldn't recommend. |
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| 18:27.27 | bitanarchy | mo1991reg: with centos I think they did that |
| 18:27.28 | mo1991reg | If I were you I'd start the install over. create a seperate 512 mb /boot partition - then encrypt all other partitions including swap and you should be all set |
| 18:27.30 | blahman123 | jelly thank you for your advice.. Ill give it another try with something else and if not I will install a 2TB |
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| 18:28.41 | mo1991reg | bitanarchy - some people put /boot on a seperate usb key, so that it can not be tampered with (remove key) once boot is over (thus can't boot without usb key) |
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| 18:29.39 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: you must not enable iptables. iptables -L should show the rules. I think after installation there are no rules. |
| 18:29.40 | QuartedOnion | thenewone: iptalbe is managed by the kernal, not systemd |
| 18:30.01 | bitanarchy | How does for example serpent compare to aes as a dm-crypt algo? Because I know that the cpu has optimization for aes. |
| 18:30.19 | grawity | run `cryptsetup benchmark` and find out |
| 18:30.21 | bitanarchy | mo1991reg: wel I could use the installer usb as /boot or not? |
| 18:30.31 | bitanarchy | may plug a seperate one |
| 18:31.04 | mo1991reg | I would use a seperate usb |
| 18:31.12 | dontknow | bitanarchy, modern cpus have aes-ni instruction to accelerate the process |
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| 18:31.28 | dontknow | it doesn't work for serpent |
| 18:32.53 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: If you configure iptables on command line the rules are imedately aktiv. |
| 18:33.01 | dontknow | using seperate usb for boot is a bit much for regular people |
| 18:33.47 | dontknow | its purpose is to prevent evil maid attack |
| 18:34.10 | dontknow | which requires physical access to computer |
| 18:34.16 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: So the better way for beginners are to use a gui. |
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| 18:37.12 | bitanarchy | I grub also doesnt want to install to a removable media |
| 18:37.58 | bitanarchy | unless I dont install the bootloader in the MBR |
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| 18:40.14 | bitanarchy | I only ge the grub rescue now |
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| 18:41.02 | dontknow | bitanarchy, i guess you need to prepare your usb with ext2 and bootable first |
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| 18:42.25 | QuartedOnion | bitanarchy: what's your lmv/luks set up ? |
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| 18:43.12 | porton | I am going to write a MediaWiki extension (plugin). Where to put the extension code to be able to load it? |
| 18:43.23 | dontknow | QuartedOnion, he doesn't have seperate boot |
| 18:43.24 | bitanarchy | QuartedOnion: I created an encrypted partition with an lvm group and two volumes: ext4 and swap |
| 18:44.06 | mo1991reg | bitanarchy - did you start the install over or are you just trying to install grub on a random usb? You need to start the install over (probably) to partition that usb to ext3/4 and set the install to use it as /boot. grub will then install as normal to the mbr |
| 18:44.29 | porton | http://localhost/mediawiki/mw-config/index.php "Not found" despite the fact that I've installed mediawiki package |
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| 18:44.47 | ksx4system | should I really care about backing up /var/cache when doing full system backup? |
| 18:44.49 | dontknow | mo1991reg, i agree |
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| 18:45.10 | QuartedOnion | bitanarchy: lvm over luks or luks over lvm ? |
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| 18:46.06 | bitanarchy | mo1991reg: I would rather go for an ecrypted boot, I think... I suppose that is what centos does. Well, striktly it is not luks becuse I used serpent, to see if that runs well |
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| 18:46.40 | dontknow | QuartedOnion, debian does luks over lvm by default i guess |
| 18:47.23 | bodom | Hi there! I am using Debian since a very long time. I do not know if I am OT here, but I am now looking for a very good hosting/housing provider to set up a Debian server with. It does not matter if it is virtual or physical, but it has to be rock solid. Any advice? |
| 18:47.38 | dontknow | bitanarchy, serpent doesn't get acceleration from cpu |
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| 18:48.56 | mo1991reg | bitanarchy - I believe this can be done, but I don't know of anyone here who has done it. Most people either just leave /boot unencrypted as a seperate partition on hard drive, or mount /boot unencrypted on a usb key drive. |
| 18:49.21 | bitanarchy | dontknow: well ok, so it's prob not wise to use unaccelerated full disk encryption... but I use an old AMD Phenom, so I suppose that it may not have those aes acceleration anyway |
| 18:49.33 | mo1991reg | Here is a walk through I have glanced at, but never tried. |
| 18:49.34 | mo1991reg | http://www.pavelkogan.com/2015/01/25/linux-mint-encryption/ |
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| 18:50.16 | dontknow | bitanarchy, phenom may have. but unsure |
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| 18:51.24 | QuartedOnion | I never try encrypted boot. From what I know is that you need to have grub working on a external device and decrypt the luks from there |
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| 18:52.40 | shaun413_ | So |
| 18:52.43 | QuartedOnion | My setup's /boot with luks, three lvm partitions on top of luks |
| 18:52.49 | shaun413_ | I need to encrypt my laptop |
| 18:53.08 | shaun413_ | To stop my friend from screwing with it |
| 18:53.12 | shaun413_ | Any ideas what to use |
| 18:53.49 | thenewone | Gabs5807: i'm not gonna use a gui |
| 18:53.58 | thenewone | how to enable iptables by cli and thanks |
| 18:54.15 | thenewone | thanks guys for answers but i can't see any help in ?? |
| 18:54.22 | thenewone | how to enable iptables simple question |
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| 18:54.59 | mo1991reg | shaun413, depending on the skills of your friend you could try just using a bios password required to boot. Otherwise the debian installer will allow you to encrypt drives |
| 18:55.23 | dimitry7 | Hi guys |
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| 18:55.45 | mo1991reg | hello |
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| 18:56.40 | dimitry7 | I'm upgrading from squeeze to wheezy, i managed to install wheezy kernel but it looks like aptitude couldn't remove the old one, see: http://paste.debian.net/401708/ |
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| 18:56.46 | dimitry7 | what's the best way to remove it? |
| 18:56.47 | QuartedOnion | thenewone: it should work as you add rules |
| 18:56.48 | dimitry7 | thanks!! |
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| 18:57.34 | thenewone | QuartedOnion: ok thanks i will try |
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| 18:58.42 | somiaj | dimitry7: the old kernel can stay installed until you reboot off the new one. Then just remove the package normally with apt-get remove or dpkg |
| 18:58.57 | dontknow | shaun413_, don't dorget to create separate /boot |
| 18:59.39 | meth | How to get fontconfig looks like the one in Ubuntu? |
| 18:59.45 | meth | to look* |
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| 18:59.58 | dimitry7 | somiaj, nice, let me reboot then |
| 19:00.13 | dontknow | meth, what de do you use? |
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| 19:00.27 | meth | XFCE, Jessie |
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| 19:00.54 | shaun413_ | He just keeps changing init |
| 19:01.00 | shaun413_ | To change the my root password |
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| 19:02.03 | dontknow | meth, open looking. select fonts section and set smoothness as slight and set rgb |
| 19:02.14 | mentor | shaun413_, Are you giving your friend physical access to your computer? |
| 19:02.39 | shaun413_ | Yes. If I leave the room |
| 19:02.46 | shaun413_ | Pita to take it with me to pee |
| 19:02.57 | mentor | shaun413_, Is it a laptop or desktop? |
| 19:03.09 | shaun413_ | Lap |
| 19:03.10 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: man iptables |
| 19:03.37 | mentor | shaun413_, Set a BIOS password and also lockdown GrUB |
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| 19:03.43 | QuartedOnion | shaun413: how does your friend change root password without being root ? |
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| 19:04.31 | TomTomTosch | yesterday his friend deleted /var :P |
| 19:04.43 | Guest34536 | HELLO guys visit my room on tiny chat http://tinychat.com/supercoolgirl20 |
| 19:04.43 | mentor | shaun413_, Also, get a better friend |
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| 19:05.20 | dontknow | mentor, that was too fast lol |
| 19:05.48 | Sachin` | how to install shell scripts get command getpsy , getegg ? |
| 19:06.08 | QuartedOnion | TomTomTosch: only root has write access to /var by default |
| 19:06.15 | thenewone | QuartedOnion: that didn't work |
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| 19:06.25 | thenewone | i added a rule but didn't active iptables |
| 19:06.26 | QuartedOnion | live cd ? |
| 19:06.27 | thenewone | :( |
| 19:06.35 | shaun413_ | It's easy to change toot password |
| 19:06.41 | mentor | QuartedOnion, The first user program run by the kernel is as the root user |
| 19:06.42 | shaun413_ | Change init to /bin/bash |
| 19:06.46 | shaun413_ | Passwd |
| 19:06.48 | shaun413_ | Boom |
| 19:06.54 | TomTomTosch | QuartedOnion, i'm aware but that's what he told us. |
| 19:06.55 | mentor | QuartedOnion, The first program run by the kernel can be specified on the kernel command line |
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| 19:07.29 | Sachin` | i am root |
| 19:07.55 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: it is fine if you don't need a gui. The manual page discribes the usage. But the logic how it works is also needed .. |
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| 19:08.42 | QuartedOnion | thenewone: what rule did you added. you need to follow the syntax |
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| 19:09.07 | thenewone | QuartedOnion: this one for ssh #iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8888 -j ACCEPT |
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| 19:10.01 | thenewone | i'm sure it's write |
| 19:10.10 | thenewone | but in other distro i use enabling iptables easy |
| 19:10.20 | thenewone | only on debian wish systemctl don't work with |
| 19:10.25 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: first you have to add all allowed connections and at the end you must deny all (this meens the rest). |
| 19:10.39 | thenewone | Gabs5807: my question very simple |
| 19:10.43 | thenewone | how to enable iptables |
| 19:10.56 | thenewone | when i type service iptables status it will show me it is active |
| 19:10.59 | QuartedOnion | thenewone: why is it not working ? |
| 19:11.11 | thenewone | QuartedOnion: i have no idea i think i miss something to install |
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| 19:11.29 | thenewone | I installed netinstall.iso |
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| 19:11.46 | mentor | thenewone, Trying to "enable iptables" doesn't really make sense |
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| 19:11.58 | thenewone | why ? |
| 19:12.07 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: do you see the rules with iptables -L? |
| 19:12.13 | mentor | thenewone, Because one cannot really enable and disable iptables |
| 19:12.15 | markybob | thenewone: because it's always "on". there is no "start". it's part of the kernel |
| 19:12.56 | mentor | thenewone, Please describe what you want to happen, how you are trying to achieve this, what happens, and how this differs from what you expect. |
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| 19:13.09 | QuartedOnion | ^ |
| 19:13.52 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: the other distributions only activate rules. they do NOT acivate iptables |
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| 19:14.22 | Gabs5807 | .activate. |
| 19:15.34 | thenewone | can you guys see ? |
| 19:15.55 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: debian did not have *default* rules to activate |
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| 19:16.31 | thenewone | Gabs5807: i added rules man rebooted the machine |
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| 19:17.21 | markybob | thenewone: they don't save automatically. iptables runs in memory https://wiki.debian.org/iptables will tell you how to save/restore |
| 19:17.51 | thenewone | thanks |
| 19:17.59 | thenewone | it's look like Arch easy to use than debian :) |
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| 19:18.37 | QuartedOnion | thenewone: you could run a script that adds rules |
| 19:18.50 | QuartedOnion | at system startup |
| 19:19.00 | thenewone | ok |
| 19:19.09 | markybob | QuartedOnion: the wiki i linked him to tells him how to do it automatically |
| 19:19.10 | thenewone | i will do it |
| 19:19.40 | QuartedOnion | then again you haven't told us why it's not working |
| 19:19.56 | markybob | he rebooted so it was "gone" |
| 19:20.00 | thenewone | QuartedOnion: if i know why it's not working i will fix the problem :) |
| 19:20.04 | thenewone | i still have no idea :( |
| 19:20.04 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: the gui did this automatically ;-) |
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| 19:20.16 | thenewone | Gabs5807: I'm Gui hater :) |
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| 19:20.32 | QuartedOnion | yeah I just ended up using ufw anyway, never got around the syntax |
| 19:21.15 | thenewone | QuartedOnion: i know ufw will solve the problem :) |
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| 19:21.27 | thenewone | but i wanna use IPTABLES |
| 19:21.32 | thenewone | the origine always better |
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| 19:21.40 | thenewone | thanks guys for your help :) |
| 19:21.42 | thenewone | all |
| 19:22.01 | thenewone | Gabs5807: you love kde ? |
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| 19:23.56 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: i try different GUIs but non is realy perfect. A the moment i use gnome .. |
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| 19:25.44 | Azus | Gabs5807, Me, i like UNity but there isn't Unity for debian |
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| 19:28.37 | dontknow | Gabs5807, you use the most sucked ui |
| 19:28.52 | thenewone | Gabs5807: try bspwm :) |
| 19:28.55 | dontknow | congratulations |
| 19:28.58 | thenewone | i'm pretty sure you will love it |
| 19:29.04 | thenewone | or openbox = xfce4 |
| 19:29.11 | thenewone | this are betterthan gnome |
| 19:29.22 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: there are two commands iptables-save and iptables-restore. They can be use at if-up and if-down |
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| 19:29.36 | thenewone | ok thanks |
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| 19:30.00 | bitanarchy | is it possible to use special encryption usb sticks to improve speed on non-aes algo's? |
| 19:30.00 | teraflops | oh since when what you guys like is better ... |
| 19:30.27 | bitanarchy | or do you need a pci card for speed? |
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| 19:30.46 | Gabs5807 | to save and restore iptables when network comes up or is shutdown. |
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| 19:30.57 | teraflops | ridiculous argument: it's bloated because i dont like it ... |
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| 19:31.13 | dontknow | bitanarchy, i can't make sense what you said |
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| 19:31.21 | teraflops | nvm i return to idle |
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| 19:32.08 | bitanarchy | dontknow: other cyphers than aes dont have hardware acceleration on a regular cpu... so I was wondering how you can accelerate that, because people are using alternative cyphers |
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| 19:32.32 | dury | hi there channel |
| 19:32.34 | dontknow | bitanarchy, you can't accelerate them |
| 19:32.47 | dontknow | it is instruction set that cpu have |
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| 19:32.54 | dury | keeping all right |
| 19:32.55 | dontknow | hardwired |
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| 19:33.26 | dontknow | bitanarchy, they use without acceleration |
| 19:33.43 | Gabs5807 | thenewone: thanks i'll give it a try :-) |
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| 19:35.33 | dury | I wonder what's the suitable antivirus for jessie probably sophos, what do you suggest.. |
| 19:35.58 | dontknow | dury, why use antivirus? |
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| 19:36.35 | dury | in case... you know |
| 19:36.54 | dontknow | you don't need antivirus on debian |
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| 19:37.20 | dury | in ubuntu dontknow |
| 19:37.37 | dontknow | dury, if you are concerned you can use noscript and requestpolicy addon in iceweasel/firefox |
| 19:37.53 | dontknow | doesn't matter |
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| 19:39.08 | dury | dontknow, thanks indeed though |
| 19:39.57 | dontknow | dury, there is a clamav if you don't feel good |
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| 19:40.55 | QuartedOnion | bitanarchy: you can check the performance of difference algorithms with cryptsetup benchmark |
| 19:41.14 | dury | dontknow, I know that I thought sophos would be better, anyway |
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| 19:41.46 | dontknow | dury, clamav is free software while sophos is not |
| 19:42.15 | adapter | What's the easiest way to get around the SASL issue on this network with irssi running on a debian box? |
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| 19:43.43 | dury | dontknow, I know but sophos would be better protect what you think |
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| 19:44.32 | dontknow | dury, don't do that |
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| 19:45.32 | dury | dontknow, all right, no worries |
| 19:45.41 | dontknow | learn proactive defense instead of using antivirus |
| 19:46.26 | nkuttler | adapter: which sasl issue? |
| 19:46.34 | dontknow | on gnu/linux your most concerned stuff should be web browser |
| 19:47.03 | abrotman | dontknow: that depends on the use of the system |
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| 19:47.30 | dontknow | abrotman, i am saying generally |
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| 19:47.40 | adapter | nkuttler: it looks like my EC2 instance is on an IP range that is likely black listed so I can't connect on it unless it's SASL. Looks like I may have found a script for irssi though. I just need to get SASL working on irssi |
| 19:47.50 | dontknow | abrotman, for some regular people |
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| 19:48.02 | dury | there are so much to learn though at this age that it's impossible cover all things, anyway |
| 19:48.07 | nkuttler | adapter: sasl config is pretty straight forward, documented on the freenode site |
| 19:48.26 | abrotman | dontknow: sysadmins are regular people too! |
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| 19:53.17 | grawity | nkuttler: what freenode site. |
| 19:53.49 | nkuttler | uh, looks like it's down.. |
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| 19:55.33 | yokisho_ | hi guys, Do you know some package to install in debain jessie to edit the boot with grub? |
| 19:55.52 | nkuttler | grawity: try http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:freenode.net/sasl/sasl-irssi.shtml |
| 19:56.06 | nkuttler | yokisho_: what do you want to edit? |
| 19:56.28 | yokisho_ | config file grub.cfg |
| 19:56.34 | grawity | adapter: cd ~/.irssi && git clone https://github.com/irssi/scripts.irssi.org && mkdir -p scripts/autorun && ln -rs scripts.irssi.org/scripts/cap_sasl.pl scripts/ && ln -rs scripts/cap_sasl.pl scripts/autorun/ && (umask 077; printf '%s\t%s\t%s\t%s\n' freenode adapter YourPassword PLAIN > sasl.auth) |
| 19:56.51 | adapter | thanks! |
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| 19:57.10 | nkuttler | yokisho_: that file is generated, just read it for a few pointers |
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| 19:57.40 | dontknow | yokisho_, you need to edit /etc/default/grub |
| 19:57.40 | nkuttler | yokisho_: you just need an editor, and to rebuild the grub.cfg file iirc update-grub |
| 19:57.43 | grawity | adapter: tbh it's simpler than it looks, I just wanted to make a one-liner |
| 19:58.02 | dontknow | yokisho_, don't edit the grub.cfg |
| 19:58.41 | yokisho_ | well, but that file hasn't the boot windows entries |
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| 20:00.18 | TomTomTo1 | yokisho_, what is your problem? is windows not listed in the bootloader? |
| 20:00.41 | yokisho_ | yep |
| 20:00.57 | TomTomTo1 | yokisho_, is it windows 10 and what version of debian are you on? |
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| 20:01.29 | dontknow | yokisho_, do you have "os-prober" package installed? |
| 20:01.31 | yokisho_ | debian 8.3, and an old windows version XP SP3, but i think i will reinstall the OS |
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| 20:02.06 | yokisho_ | dontknow, yep! |
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| 20:03.12 | dury | all right guys have to go all my best take care |
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| 20:04.27 | TomTomTo1 | yokisho_, try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && update-grub |
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| 20:05.35 | yokisho_ | TomTomTo1, firstly i will back up the files :P |
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| 20:05.39 | Sachin` | any one know about bash script |
| 20:06.04 | nkuttler | Sachin`: people in #bash |
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| 20:06.33 | jim | the man 5 interfaces page didn't show how to put essid and password into the interface for a wlan0... where weould I read up, and which packages would add the syntax to the interfaces file for that? |
| 20:06.39 | Sachin` | nkuttler thanks |
| 20:06.58 | Sachin` | nkuttler do u know how to install shell script for getpsy |
| 20:07.26 | nkuttler | Sachin`: no idea what that is |
| 20:07.42 | nkuttler | jim: iirc the iwconfig parameters are just prefixed with wireless- |
| 20:07.44 | Sachin` | ok |
| 20:07.56 | grawity | nkuttler: but iwconfig only does WEP, doesn't it? |
| 20:07.56 | nkuttler | jim: e.g. wireless-essid foobar |
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| 20:08.07 | nkuttler | grawity: i think so, yeah |
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| 20:08.24 | grawity | so most of the time you'd need to edit wpa_supplicant.conf instead |
| 20:08.36 | jim | nkuttler, ok, which man page lists them? |
| 20:08.42 | nkuttler | probably, i've switched to nm |
| 20:08.45 | grawity | same |
| 20:09.17 | jim | let's see if he wants to do that |
| 20:09.24 | nkuttler | jim: is this wep encryption? or wpa |
| 20:09.55 | nkuttler | i don't particularly like nm, but it's good enough for the laptop |
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| 20:10.14 | teraflops | nmtui is nice, isn't it? |
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| 20:10.37 | nkuttler | it's not even about the interface, but simple stuff like pre-up post-down scripts etc |
| 20:10.42 | jim | nkuttler, I think he said wpa |
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| 20:12.16 | jim | anyway right now I just need the package he should install, and the man page he should read to get the parameters in his interfaces file |
| 20:12.40 | nkuttler | jim: just tell him to use network-manager? |
| 20:13.06 | nkuttler | tbh, i've never configured wpa manually.. but wpasupplicant should be the man page |
| 20:13.56 | nkuttler | man 5 wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 20:24.15 | grawity | you're saying nm doesn't have pre-up scripts? |
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| 20:25.33 | nikitasius | test |
| 20:25.35 | nikitasius | helloworld! |
| 20:25.42 | abrotman | spacebar fail ... |
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| 20:26.07 | nikitasius | anybody can help with gnupg2 conpilation? i configure it with libs and, finally no libs.. |
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| 20:26.38 | nikitasius | so --version gives me: "Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB", but i do ./configure --with-bzip2=lib/bzip2-1.0.6 --with-zlib=lib/zlib-1.2.8 --with-readline=lib/readline-6.3 --with-libcurl=lib/curl-7.47.1 . |
| 20:26.54 | nikitasius | debian 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 20:27.05 | nikitasius | gpg (GnuPG) 2.0.29 |
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| 20:27.32 | nikitasius | this way: configure, make, make check, checkinstall |
| 20:27.53 | nikitasius | so im confused why there is no libs in current gpg2 ... |
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| 20:28.09 | TomTomTo1 | !debian-next |
| 20:28.09 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:29.21 | nikitasius | TomTomTo1 you mean i should to ask another channel? |
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| 20:29.58 | TomTomTo1 | nikitasius if you are on testing, then yes. i just assumed. |
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| 20:32.12 | nikitasius | TomTomTo1 maybe, it;s latest gnupg version. compiling it myself because i;ve edited SRC for 32kb keys |
| 20:32.26 | nikitasius | ok. i'll check them too. thanks! |
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| 20:33.20 | TomTomTo1 | nikitasius, i mean your debian version. lsb_release -a tells you. |
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| 20:36.22 | TomTomTo1 | nikitasius, also, is there a reason you want to compile it and not just install from the repo? |
| 20:36.41 | nikitasius | lsb_release -a |
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| 20:36.43 | nikitasius | No LSB modules are available. |
| 20:36.45 | nikitasius | Distributor ID: Debian |
| 20:36.47 | nikitasius | Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 (jessie) |
| 20:36.49 | nikitasius | Release: 8.3 |
| 20:36.51 | TomTomTo1 | stop |
| 20:36.51 | nikitasius | Codename: jessie |
| 20:36.56 | nikitasius | i've just upgraded kernel |
| 20:37.03 | nikitasius | to 4.3 |
| 20:37.07 | TomTomTo1 | ok. you are right here. sry for the disruption. |
| 20:37.56 | TomTomTo1 | nikitasius, now is there a reason you want to compile and not just install? |
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| 20:38.01 | nikitasius | if there is noone can help - i'll check another channel and come back here tomorrow. its weekend so people not in internet, normally.. |
| 20:38.12 | nikitasius | TomTomTo1 i need keys larger than 4kb |
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| 20:38.25 | nikitasius | so i;ve made upto 32kb keys to use 8-16kb mostly |
| 20:38.37 | nikitasius | RSA pairs. |
| 20:38.59 | nikitasius | just for large keys. |
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| 20:40.16 | nikitasius | i'll go to irc.oftc.net to check their deb. |
| 20:40.18 | nikitasius | cya! |
| 20:40.22 | TomTomTo1 | there is no fun way for backporting gnupg2 to jessie |
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| 20:40.36 | nikitasius | i have all libs and src too. |
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| 20:40.56 | nikitasius | i just confused WHY gpg2 confgure and make without libs... |
| 20:41.00 | nikitasius | which i;ve setup |
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| 20:41.47 | nikitasius | so i'll go on another irc (what you;ve listed me) cya! |
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| 20:41.59 | xreal | Hehe, I've just figured out that it's possible to use upgrade with backports. How destructive is this? ;) |
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| 20:42.44 | TomTomTo1 | what a mess... sry for that one. |
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| 20:45.43 | oskie | I have a RAID1 md, and one of the disks is very slow and often 100% utilized. I think it is because of bad blocks (at the hardware level). What's the best way to remedy this? 'check' or somehow rewrite it completely? |
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| 20:45.58 | Inpetto | Hi, can anyone help me out any further from this ; http://pastebin.com/5A7QeQCv |
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| 20:47.19 | xreal | When doing "apt-get upgrade" many running applications get upgrade. How does this work? Do I need a restart to enable them? APT doesn't inform me about this. |
| 20:48.44 | TomTomTo1 | xreal, most of the time you don't need to reboot. considering the latest glibs patch you probably should though. |
| 20:48.49 | markybob | xreal: you should reboot if it updates the kernel or libc6, for example. otherwise you're generally fine just doing nothing. if there's an xorg upgrade you might want to restart just xorg, etc. |
| 20:49.05 | xreal | But xginx for example. Will it get restated ? |
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| 20:50.04 | markybob | xreal: it should. if for some reason it doesn't you should manually do it |
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| 20:51.45 | xreal | markybob: it just says than nginx-common (etc.) get configurated. APT doesn't say anything about "gets restarted. |
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| 20:52.53 | markybob | xreal: that's also not the main server package. it's nginx |
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| 20:53.10 | xreal | markybob: ah, you're right. |
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| 20:53.37 | nikitasius | #debian-next keep the silence.. damn |
| 20:54.11 | dontknow | there was a tool that says if you need a restart but i forgot its name |
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| 20:55.34 | TomTomTo1 | services are not restarted for lib updates, so you need to do that by hand. |
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| 20:55.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | keeping silent for all of thee minutes? scandal! |
| 20:56.09 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat: that's why my wife left me :P |
| 20:56.29 | TomTomTo1 | nikitasius, you are on jessie, this is the right channel. sry to have confused you earlier. |
| 20:56.47 | dontknow | needrestart - check which daemons need to be restarted after library upgrades |
| 20:56.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | err, three* , not thee |
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| 21:03.40 | petn-randall | oskie: What kind of disks are these? |
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| 21:04.49 | petn-randall | oskie: Note that some desktop HDDs have ridiculous timeout values like 120 seconds. If you want to run a RAID, you should make sure that the disks have TLER. |
| 21:05.08 | TomTomTo1 | nikitasius, GnuPG docs say it supports keys up to 4kb. where did you see that newer versions can do more? |
| 21:06.28 | petn-randall | TomTomTo1: nikitasius went to #debian-next with their request. |
| 21:07.04 | nikitasius | yep. |
| 21:07.15 | nikitasius | TomTomTo1 you can edit keygen.c in g10 |
| 21:07.57 | TomTomTo1 | does not think that's a good idea |
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| 21:08.06 | nikitasius | and you can generate any large keys. before you've edited buffer too (in bits, not in bytes), in another file, but now only maxkeysize (or somethingmlike that) |
| 21:08.16 | nikitasius | TomTomTo1 why? |
| 21:08.29 | nikitasius | i use 16kb RSA for prvate data |
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| 21:08.44 | TomTomTo1 | doesn't give you much in terms os security, does it? |
| 21:08.50 | nikitasius | long sure |
| 21:08.54 | TomTomTo1 | s/os/of |
| 21:09.50 | nikitasius | on my servers it's 8kb keys for all. for mails 16k. not im on debian 8.3 from my old ubuntu 12 which died on update to 14 so.. i need same large keys:) |
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| 21:09.58 | nikitasius | (on laptop) |
| 21:10.03 | nikitasius | servers always udner debian |
| 21:10.10 | TomTomTo1 | rsa-4096 isn't even encouraged. but whatever, that's offtopic. |
| 21:10.18 | TomTomTo1 | steps out |
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| 21:11.46 | petn-randall | TomTomTo1: How is 4096 not encouraged? |
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| 21:13.09 | TomTomTo1 | petn-randall, diminishing returns, 2048 is the sweet spot. |
| 21:14.28 | petn-randall | TomTomTo1: IIRC several crypto people advised using 4096 or ECC. |
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| 21:15.08 | markybob | petn-randall: no. letsencrypt for example says 2048 |
| 21:16.37 | TomTomTo1 | my point was that gnupg 2.0 supports up to 4k. going above is just silly. |
| 21:17.19 | markybob | agreed |
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| 21:19.20 | markybob | https://gnupg.org/faq/gnupg-faq.html#no_default_of_rsa4096 |
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| 21:23.55 | nezZario | Hey guys |
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| 21:24.27 | nezZario | This is a bit weird .. I have 2x SSD + 2x Magnetic disks .. /proc/mdstat shows one of my SSD's isn't in the RAID array anymore |
| 21:24.38 | nezZario | but .. gnome disk utility shows it's ok |
| 21:25.09 | TomTomTo1 | markybob, going to disprove 11.7 :P |
| 21:25.53 | markybob | TomTomTo1: heh |
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| 21:28.19 | mystica555_ | nezZario: how does it define 'ok' ? |
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| 21:31.17 | petn-randall | nezZario: Probably gnome disk utility is referring to the SMART data? |
| 21:31.29 | petn-randall | nezZario: If in doubt, show us the output of /proc/mdstat |
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| 21:41.10 | jnewt | everytime i start my machine, i get: a start job is running for dev-disk-by\x2duuid-68c13...0s / 1min 30s . what is this about? |
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| 21:42.56 | petn-randall | jnewt: Can you screenshot it and show us? |
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| 21:48.02 | jnewt | petn-randall, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93164842/boot.png |
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| 21:50.36 | petn-randall | jnewt: Do you have a stale /etc/fstab entry? I'm guessing that systemd is trying to mount it, but is waiting for the device to appear. |
| 21:51.15 | petn-randall | jnewt: if you run 'systemctl'. and scroll through the list, you will probably find a 'failed' entry that matches that device. |
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| 21:53.58 | jnewt | i'm not seeing anything that says failed specifically |
| 21:55.46 | jnewt | i have an entry for session-cl.scope which says loaded active abandoned, which is a bit different than the others |
| 21:56.28 | jnewt | most say loaded active <plugged, mounted, running or exited> |
| 21:56.43 | dvs | most? |
| 21:57.21 | jnewt | yeah, that one says abandoned, there's one listening, and one waiting (systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer) |
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| 21:59.28 | jnewt | ooh, if i pass the --all switch, i get some not-found in red. |
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| 22:00.03 | teraflops | jnewt: also systemd-analize blame |
| 22:00.03 | jnewt | like var-lock.mount and var-run.mount (bot show not-found inactive dead |
| 22:00.07 | darkgoogle | Does it matter if a system is i386 or 65 debian? |
| 22:00.14 | darkgoogle | X64 |
| 22:00.27 | dvs | for what? |
| 22:00.52 | darkgoogle | Installation |
| 22:01.04 | darkgoogle | For programming |
| 22:01.04 | markybob | darkgoogle: you should use amd64 if your processor supports it |
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| 22:01.28 | markybob | darkgoogle: then you can install i386 runtime using multiarch. https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
| 22:01.34 | jnewt | teraflops, systemd-analyze blame looks good, nothing taking more than 3 seconds. that timer runs for at least 90seconds |
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| 22:02.11 | teraflops | jnewt: take a look at your fstab i guess |
| 22:02.29 | teraflops | look for that uuid |
| 22:02.34 | AndChat|314001 | Oké because Jessie X64 doesn't have gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf installation and when I try it I get may remove items from xserver |
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| 22:03.12 | teraflops | hmm ragequit? |
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| 22:03.41 | darkgoogle | And I need that hard for my rpi |
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| 22:04.36 | markybob | ,checkbackport gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf |
| 22:04.37 | judd | Backporting package gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: gcc-5-cross-base. |
| 22:04.51 | markybob | darkgoogle: ^^ not happening in jessie. |
| 22:04.52 | jnewt | teraflops: there is definitely a uuid that starts with that 68c13 UUID swap 0 0 |
| 22:05.07 | darkgoogle | Damn and now |
| 22:05.27 | teraflops | jnewt: well you found the issue |
| 22:06.01 | teraflops | jnewt: lucky you sometines the system does not boot it just drops a emergency shell |
| 22:06.02 | jnewt | teraflops: i found a uuid. i have no idea what the issue is |
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| 22:06.12 | teraflops | jnewt: it's your system ... |
| 22:07.09 | teraflops | jnewt: mind pasting it or the whole fstab to paste.debian.net? |
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| 22:07.37 | darkgoogle | What do you mean by back porting? |
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| 22:08.09 | markybob | darkgoogle: doesn't matter because it's not possible for that on jessie. anyway /msg dpkg ssb if you want to know more about backporting |
| 22:08.20 | jnewt | teraflops: paste.debian.net/401829 |
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| 22:09.57 | teraflops | jnewt: if it's the swap comment the line and reboot |
| 22:10.03 | AndChat|314001 | So only why is installing wheezy? |
| 22:12.19 | jnewt | teraflops: that stopped the message. so it is that line. is there a syntax problem? or is something wrong with the hardware? |
| 22:12.31 | TomTomTo1 | darkgoogle, i think there are other cross-compiler toolchains for jessie. no idea about those though. |
| 22:12.56 | teraflops | jnewt: it's in other disk so, uncomment that line and so swapon manually from cli |
| 22:13.25 | teraflops | swapon /dev/whatever |
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| 22:13.33 | teraflops | do* |
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| 22:14.16 | TomTomTo1 | and off he goes... |
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| 22:16.22 | teraflops | jnewt: you know of lsblk? just do it maybe the disk is not mounted or the swap is gone od ¡¡r the uuid is wrong ... |
| 22:16.25 | teraflops | or |
| 22:16.45 | teraflops | with blkid you gut the uuids btw |
| 22:17.09 | teraflops | get srry... im on the phone |
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| 22:20.52 | jnewt | i think it is dead or otherwise disappeared, it doesn't show up with blkid or ls-l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 22:22.52 | teraflops | jnewt: well then you know why it fails now |
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| 22:25.04 | jnewt | teraflops: i guess the next logical question is, do i need to worry about it if that line is disabled? I know what swap space is for, but not what to expect if i don't have it specified in fstab |
| 22:25.37 | teraflops | jnewt: of course not, unless the swap was in other disk and it died :P |
| 22:26.38 | teraflops | jnewt: create a new swap partition get the UUID and set it up in fstab |
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| 22:28.35 | teraflops | jnewt: nvm i misread it was in /dev/sda5 |
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| 22:53.04 | transhuman | whats the easiest way to duplicate the boot partition from one drive to another? |
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| 22:54.06 | transhuman | I have had extensive luck moving partitions from one drive to another using AOE and gparted except with the boot partitions, these are unsuccessful |
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| 22:56.04 | teraflops | transhuman: BIOS or UEFI? |
| 22:57.09 | transhuman | need the solution to work with both. I have built a live cd for copying partitions across internet over something on the lines of VPN and ssh encapsulated AOE but I have no luck using this method moving boot partitions |
| 22:57.34 | transhuman | not sure why |
| 22:58.22 | teraflops | sry im not aware of what AOE is |
| 22:58.31 | transhuman | ATA over ethernet |
| 22:58.56 | teraflops | transhuman: for the mbr you want dd |
| 22:59.20 | teraflops | but as I said im not aware of that AOE thing |
| 22:59.56 | transhuman | you wouldnt have a link or a good set of directions for that method would you, perhaps I can adapt them to my live cd, its all thats holding it back from making it public |
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| 23:01.50 | teraflops | transhuman: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24658935/dd-backup-mbr-partition-table-and-first-partition |
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| 23:03.05 | teraflops | something like that |
| 23:03.06 | transhuman | so let me get this straight the mbr does not actually live in the first partition or doesnt have to but can? |
| 23:03.32 | dvs | transhuman: No, it doesn't live in the first partition |
| 23:03.35 | Amun_Ra | it doesn't |
| 23:04.04 | transhuman | that would explain then why they wont boot maybe the first partition copy is going ok but i am missing the mbr all together |
| 23:04.08 | somiaj | each partition has an mbr, but you should usually put the mbr on the disk (not the partition) |
| 23:04.08 | teraflops | transhuman: nope, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record |
| 23:04.09 | Amun_Ra | for primary parition locations are located inside mbr |
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| 23:06.57 | transhuman | Amun_Ra can you explain your second statement? |
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| 23:07.36 | ryan57 | greetings |
| 23:08.34 | Amun_Ra | transhuman: I mean MBR contains four primary partition entries, iirc right after bootstrap area |
| 23:09.03 | transhuman | oh ok |
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| 23:09.26 | transhuman | got you, next I will have to figure out how to deal with the UEFI |
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| 23:09.41 | ryan57 | how would one go about making an IDE controller automatically reset after an IDE error was encountered? |
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| 23:11.39 | ryan57 | let's assume the IDE controller in question is known for being one buggy SOB, and there are no other replacement options available at the moment |
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| 23:13.45 | ryan57 | I give you a screenshot so you know where I am coming from: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ifmjz2c4ret2ad9/2016-02-20%2016.34.35.jpg?dl=0 |
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| 23:22.04 | transhuman | thanks guys for all the help |
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| 23:41.28 | Mikaze | Hello. Proud new owner of Jessie, but have a problem from the audio install for the blind. When I reboot, text console #1 repeats the error: [ 16.048745] cx18-0: mbox was found stuck busy when setting up for CX18_CPU_DE_RELEASE_MDL; clearing busy and trying to proceed |
| 23:41.53 | Mikaze | Any idea what this is and how to get rid of it? |
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| 23:48.02 | Mikaze | Anyway, console 1 is locked up. |
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| 23:49.47 | Mikaze | And I can still taste fish sticks from tonight's dinner. Not sure if that has anything to do with the Jessie install. |
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| 23:51.53 | Mikaze | looks around to make sure he's in #Debian, cuz it's so quiet... |
| 23:52.20 | lmw | Mikaze: Wait is a magic hint I can give you :) |
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| 23:53.08 | Mikaze | I no longer believe in magic and all that Richard Bach stuff. |
| 23:53.36 | Mikaze | Still believe in Debian, tho. |
| 23:54.01 | Mikaze | And Volkswagen, but only the old air-cooled ones. |
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| 23:54.28 | lmw | Mikaze: Did you installed the drivers yourself, or are you using the kernel built-in one(s)? |
| 23:54.59 | Mikaze | It's stock Debian. All my hardware is linux compliant. |
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| 23:59.04 | lmw | Mikaze: Hmm, the only thing I can find is: Is that a TV stick? Hauppauge or so? |
| 23:59.17 | lmw | The error message/code are similar to these sticks |
| 23:59.25 | lmw | or cards |
