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| 00:02.45 | Plush-Tux | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 00:02.46 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.3+70~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.3+70; sid: 4.4+71 |
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| 00:17.39 | LuMint | hi guys |
| 00:17.49 | Plush-Tux | Hi |
| 00:18.10 | LuMint | suppose I use debian stable. Are security fixes backported to it? |
| 00:18.19 | markybob | LuMint: yes. |
| 00:18.21 | LuMint | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.35 | markybob | LuMint: to everything. if you're actually using debian stable |
| 00:19.33 | LuMint | markybob: thanks. So i've no reason to use unstable in order to be safe. Thanks for explaining that |
| 00:19.51 | markybob | LuMint: unstable is not recommended at all |
| 00:20.06 | markybob | LuMint: stable is the most secure/stable debian |
| 00:20.23 | Plush-Tux | You don't get new features in the stable channel, but you always get security updates until the current channel reaches EOL |
| 00:21.23 | LuMint | Plush-Tux: all packages that are in the repos included? |
| 00:21.38 | markybob | LuMint: which btw, debian jessie (current stable) has LTS support until may 2020 |
| 00:21.43 | markybob | LuMint: yes |
| 00:21.43 | Plush-Tux | LuMint: if the packages have security issues, yes |
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| 00:22.31 | Plush-Tux | markybob: Doesn't the LTS only support and fix the most important packages? |
| 00:22.57 | markybob | Plush-Tux: main support ends may 2018. the LTS, which is not as strict, takes over |
| 00:23.55 | Plush-Tux | afaik, they aren't supporting all packages, like in squeeze, they supported only the most important packages |
| 00:24.11 | Plush-Tux | This may be changed in the last year(s) |
| 00:24.15 | Plush-Tux | I don't really know |
| 00:24.17 | markybob | Plush-Tux: that's generally what LTS does. it's not as strict |
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| 00:27.04 | LuMint | hrm, come to think of it, not all critical security fixes are considered as such. For example Mozilla didn't consider logjam a critical vulnerability |
| 00:27.58 | LuMint | so it's a responsibility of a maintainer to go through such fixes, and he could make a mistake... never mind, just thinking out loud |
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| 00:28.41 | markybob | LuMint: i personally wouldn't recommend LTS for production servers |
| 00:28.59 | TomTomTosh | there is a bug report system and you can pay if you want something done. |
| 00:29.06 | markybob | LuMint: it just doesn't get given the same level of attention |
| 00:29.58 | Plush-Tux | runs lenny on her server :O |
| 00:30.08 | TomTomTosh | well... |
| 00:30.28 | MeatHammer | I'm having some difficulty figuring out whats going on with my, grumble grumble, nvidia optimus drivers. I had them working at some point, but I think a kernel upgrade may have broken something. On jessie with a Quaddro 2000M. Can anyone help out? Trying to accomplish this:http://fixmynix.com/install-and-configure-nvidia-optimus-with-bumblebee-in-debian/ |
| 00:30.28 | markybob | that's dumb |
| 00:30.48 | Plush-Tux | I was too lazy to upgrade |
| 00:30.57 | Plush-Tux | I'm thinking of getting a new server |
| 00:30.57 | markybob | running debian 5 is really dumb on a server |
| 00:31.32 | Plush-Tux | I shame |
| 00:31.39 | markybob | yes. shame. |
| 00:32.00 | MeatHammer | acknowledges that Optimus and proprietary drivers are shyte, but needs help nonetheless. |
| 00:32.42 | markybob | MeatHammer: so did you use http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee ? |
| 00:32.42 | Plush-Tux | stands in the room with her face to the wall |
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| 00:33.26 | TomTomTosh | ah, this will be fun :D |
| 00:33.27 | MeatHammer | markybob: yes bbumblebee package is installed, as are the nvidia prop drivers, as is bbswitch, accorxing to synaptic. Hoever trying various lsusb and modprobe commands yield errors |
| 00:33.41 | TomTomTosh | MeatHammer, which debian are you on? :3 |
| 00:33.47 | MeatHammer | jessie |
| 00:34.04 | TomTomTosh | great. you added stretch to your sources.list like the tutorial said? |
| 00:34.09 | markybob | MeatHammer: so you conlicted all the shit? |
| 00:34.21 | markybob | MeatHammer: you don't mix bumblebee |
| 00:34.29 | markybob | conflicted* |
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| 00:34.54 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: markybob honestly I'm hella confused. I had everyuthing working then I tried using my GPU for some math tasks and realize its broke or not configured |
| 00:35.16 | TomTomTosh | ah, to be fair, the link says to change it to jessie. i just didn't read. |
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| 00:36.03 | TomTomTosh | MeatHammer, but just to be sure, tell us what your /etc/apt/sources.list says. http://pastebin.com/ |
| 00:36.21 | MeatHammer | markybob: originally I used this link to get it working: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#Installation and also https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_340.65 |
| 00:36.41 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: it includes all the ones listed in the article + backports |
| 00:37.35 | Plush-Tux | ok |
| 00:37.43 | Plush-Tux | I'm upgrading my Debian Lenny now |
| 00:38.33 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: markybob http://pastebin.com/KdzaF28G |
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| 00:39.05 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: the weird thing is modporbe tells me im not using nouveau |
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| 00:43.12 | TomTomTosh | if you removed them |
| 00:43.26 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: basically I feel like I've already done everything, but when I try to start bbswitch I get this error: "modprobe: FATAL: Module bbswitch not found." |
| 00:44.03 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: but when I try to install it from synaptic or CLI it tels me I have the newest package already...? |
| 00:44.53 | TomTomTosh | what does dpkg -l bbswitch-dkms say? |
| 00:45.42 | Plush-Tux | tell me about test |
| 00:45.48 | Plush-Tux | how does that work? |
| 00:46.08 | TomTomTosh | Plush-Tux, /msg dpkg tell me about test |
| 00:46.09 | Plush-Tux | tell Plush-Tux about dpkg |
| 00:46.22 | Plush-Tux | ah, thank you! |
| 00:46.32 | TomTomTosh | don't invoke the bot in the channel for personal use. msg him. |
| 00:46.48 | Plush-Tux | I was only testing once :) |
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| 00:47.12 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: http://pastebin.com/U21fq8f6 |
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| 00:49.35 | LuMint | who's the bot? |
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| 00:50.25 | Plush-Tux | You mean dpkg ? |
| 00:50.28 | Plush-Tux | or judd ? |
| 00:50.35 | LuMint | nvm |
| 00:50.37 | LuMint | I see now |
| 00:51.09 | TomTomTosh | MeatHammer, sry, not sure. but there is still #bumblebee |
| 00:51.49 | MeatHammer | TomTomTosh: question: bbswitch is in fact installed ya? |
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| 00:53.24 | TomTomTosh | yes, but everything you need should come with bumblebee-nvidia and primus. |
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| 00:55.18 | TomTomTosh | has no idea that goes beyond what te wiki says. i keep away from non-free. |
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| 00:58.08 | Plush-Tux | The channel is full of trolls :( |
| 00:58.30 | Plush-Tux | Oh, wrong channel, sorry |
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| 01:00.04 | dvs | sure, sure |
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| 01:01.55 | MeatHammer | anyone remember the bios keys on a dell off chance? F1 and F12? |
| 01:02.17 | abrotman | it depends on the model |
| 01:02.26 | abrotman | or, try them both |
| 01:02.29 | abrotman | and F2 |
| 01:02.30 | cra1g321 | try del also or f2 |
| 01:02.30 | Plush-Tux | Try F1, F2, F8, F10, or F12 |
| 01:02.34 | MeatHammer | lol thats my plan |
| 01:02.35 | abrotman | and ctrl-alt-ins |
| 01:02.48 | cra1g321 | read the instruction manual ;) |
| 01:02.53 | MeatHammer | im liking the odds on f10 and f12 |
| 01:02.55 | MeatHammer | brb |
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| 01:03.33 | abrotman | bonus points if your "bios" uses stop-a |
| 01:04.12 | shaun414 | my encryption is all setup |
| 01:04.12 | Plush-Tux | A international standard for the keys would be nice |
| 01:04.18 | shaun414 | anything else I can do for added security? |
| 01:04.24 | shaun414 | bios pw is in too |
| 01:04.54 | Plush-Tux | shaun414: Don't let someone go to your computer, not remotely nor at your computer |
| 01:04.58 | TomTomTosh | shaun414, teach your friends some manners. can't really protect against vandalism. |
| 01:05.38 | shaun414 | if only my laptop was smaller... |
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| 01:05.55 | TomTomTosh | shaun414, but if you figured the screensaver out and encrypted your dive and set the bios pw |
| 01:05.55 | Plush-Tux | Hard resetting the BIOS and all settings are gone :) |
| 01:06.11 | shaun414 | yeah I have a 2 min screensaver |
| 01:06.17 | markybob | eh if he used luks he's fine |
| 01:06.21 | shaun414 | yeah, but who has time to get to the cmos jumper |
| 01:06.30 | shaun414 | markybob: they can just wipe my data then |
| 01:06.33 | markybob | still stupid to not trust your roommates. i'd worry about much more |
| 01:06.37 | shaun414 | if they jump cmos, and use live boot |
| 01:06.44 | Plush-Tux | Yes |
| 01:06.52 | markybob | shaun414: so you didn't use luks? |
| 01:06.58 | shaun414 | i did use luks |
| 01:07.18 | Plush-Tux | To protect your computer more, don't connect to the internet ... :) |
| 01:07.25 | markybob | okay. so whatever. your choice to live with people you don't trust |
| 01:07.42 | Plush-Tux | markybob: lol |
| 01:07.54 | shaun414 | wait |
| 01:07.56 | shaun414 | did i? |
| 01:08.04 | shaun414 | I just encrypted at install |
| 01:08.10 | shaun414 | whatever encryption that is |
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| 01:08.21 | Plush-Tux | A hardware side encryption is always the best |
| 01:08.27 | markybob | shaun414: default is luks. |
| 01:08.27 | TomTomTosh | it's dm-crypt/luks :3 |
| 01:08.32 | shaun414 | Ok then its liks |
| 01:08.39 | Plush-Tux | luks, not liks |
| 01:08.40 | Plush-Tux | :D |
| 01:08.53 | shaun414 | Plush-Tux: i cant afford a self encrypting drive if thats what you mean |
| 01:09.19 | markybob | shaun414: don't live with assholes is #1 |
| 01:10.10 | Plush-Tux | shaun414: You should put your computer in a safe, and the safe in another safe, to make you nobody hacked the first code of the first safe |
| 01:10.18 | Plush-Tux | *sure |
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| 01:11.26 | TomTomTosh | safes have security flaws :P |
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| 01:11.53 | markybob | so do assholes. kick them in the nuts :P |
| 01:12.02 | KomputerKid | lel |
| 01:12.05 | TomTomTosh | haha agreed |
| 01:12.52 | shaun414 | ok |
| 01:12.56 | shaun414 | so kick them in the nuts |
| 01:12.57 | shaun414 | got it |
| 01:13.12 | Plush-Tux | https://www.tresore.net/assets/img/datensafe/MLP/Mueller-Safe-MPL70-Computer.jpg |
| 01:13.17 | shaun414 | anyone got a thinkpad btw? |
| 01:13.25 | abrotman | lots of people, just ask |
| 01:13.26 | shaun414 | i need a new keyboard I think.. its broken 2 keys |
| 01:13.36 | shaun414 | knwow where to get one cheap? |
| 01:13.37 | dsockwell | buy a usb keyboard of your choosing. |
| 01:13.41 | dsockwell | use that. |
| 01:13.42 | abrotman | shaun414: the internet .. |
| 01:13.47 | abrotman | shaun414: ask ##hardware |
| 01:14.09 | Plush-Tux | get one? which one? the whole keyboard or the keys? |
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| 01:14.45 | shaun413 | ok i did |
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| 01:14.49 | dsockwell | shaun413: some people might think your continuous need for advice is an elaborate joke that's only funny for you |
| 01:14.53 | shaun413 | well.. i looked for they key |
| 01:15.00 | shaun413 | and it was 8 bucks for one key |
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| 01:15.46 | abrotman | shaun413: this isn't relevant to Debian |
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| 01:16.46 | shaun413 | ok |
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| 01:21.16 | MorpheusArch | Anyone running UT99 or OpenArena servers on jessie? the documentation out there is all for wheezy |
| 01:21.26 | MorpheusArch | All the ones I can find anyways |
| 01:22.06 | MarvelDigital | anyone know how to fix a file protocol unexpectedly died when using dolphin? |
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| 01:23.28 | jmcnaught | MorpheusArch: it's unlikely that the steps are very different. |
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| 01:24.26 | dedondesta | guys is there something lighter than apache? i just want to serve pure html pages |
| 01:24.31 | MorpheusArch | nginx |
| 01:24.40 | MorpheusArch | thats what I thought |
| 01:24.57 | MorpheusArch | I'll try it in a virtual machine first |
| 01:25.11 | MorpheusArch | just wondered if anybody had done it here is all |
| 01:25.21 | markybob | dedondesta: for dyanmic pages they're pretty much the same. for static i'd probably go nginx |
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| 01:26.16 | abrotman | if it's static, there stuff way lighter than nginx out there also |
| 01:26.30 | MorpheusArch | there is lighttpd |
| 01:26.40 | TomTomTosh | like Python SimpleHTTPServer |
| 01:26.41 | MorpheusArch | but nginx was the first to come to my mind |
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| 01:27.43 | dedondesta | TomTomTosh: hmm, i like python |
| 01:28.00 | shaun413 | holy, does debain not have cooling management? |
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| 01:28.04 | dedondesta | TomTomTosh: pip install SimpleHTTPServer ? |
| 01:28.05 | shaun413 | things are heating up |
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| 01:28.08 | markybob | dedondesta: first is it static or dynamic? |
| 01:28.18 | dedondesta | markybob: static |
| 01:28.29 | dedondesta | markybob: like html page |
| 01:28.31 | markybob | alright then i don't really care :p |
| 01:28.42 | dedondesta | markybob: cool :P |
| 01:29.02 | dedondesta | markybob: sometimes i ask random questions too |
| 01:29.05 | dedondesta | ;) |
| 01:29.23 | dedondesta | this wasn't the case though |
| 01:29.37 | MorpheusArch | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_speed_control @shaun413 |
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| 01:31.03 | TomTomTosh | dedondesta, it comes with python. you just python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000 |
| 01:31.54 | TomTomTosh | dedondesta, then you have the server on localhost:8000 |
| 01:32.21 | dedondesta | TomTomTosh: thats awesome, thank you |
| 01:33.07 | jmcnaught | my understanding is that Python's SimpleHTTPServer is more for debug/development of web apps, not for production. Being familiar with how to configure the web browser is also a relevant factor, if you know nginx or apache already, they still might not be bad choices |
| 01:33.20 | markybob | jmcnaught: you're correct |
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| 01:33.46 | jmcnaught | s/browser/server :) |
| 01:34.11 | TomTomTosh | yep. i agree. it's just the most light way ;D |
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| 01:36.14 | TomTomTosh | but i don't think it's unsecure. |
| 01:36.17 | romare | hello I want to download debian for usb but I couldn't find a link? started to feel like a stupid |
| 01:36.34 | markybob | TomTomTosh: i doubt anyone's cared to try :P |
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| 01:36.46 | markybob | romare: are you using a laptop? |
| 01:36.55 | romare | markybob, yes |
| 01:37.08 | Siema | @romare If you mean the installer, then download the usual iso and dd it to pendrive |
| 01:37.11 | markybob | romare: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 01:37.24 | markybob | no don't do that for laptops |
| 01:37.27 | markybob | man |
| 01:37.33 | Siema | Why? |
| 01:37.40 | Siema | I always dd linux isos |
| 01:37.42 | markybob | Siema: because 99% of them need firmware |
| 01:37.49 | markybob | Siema: thus the firmware installer |
| 01:37.58 | markybob | Siema: it's there for a reason. |
| 01:38.01 | Siema | Hmm, maybe I just have a laptop generic enough to work |
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| 01:38.18 | jmcnaught | well to be fair, you can still install firmwares with the regular ISO, it's documented in the install manual |
| 01:38.35 | markybob | yeah you can. kind of. most people fail because they can't read |
| 01:38.46 | romare | markybob, so is that version up to date? |
| 01:38.46 | jmcnaught | the firmware ISO is more convenient though |
| 01:38.51 | markybob | romare: yes |
| 01:38.57 | Siema | Aaaah, markybob, you meant the drivers. I was thinking about what's wrong with dd'ing them :P |
| 01:39.02 | romare | and is it as easy as installing ubuntu? |
| 01:39.14 | markybob | Siema: oh yeah. i meant drivers |
| 01:39.23 | romare | I want to dual boot it alongside with windows btw |
| 01:39.40 | markybob | romare: probably. i haven't even install ubuntu but it's not hard if you use the firmware installer |
| 01:39.49 | markybob | ever* |
| 01:40.15 | romare | btw it's 265mb. why is it so small? |
| 01:40.24 | Siema | romare: the installers are more or less the same, Ubuntu has prettier GUI and tha't pretty much it. |
| 01:40.32 | abrotman | romare: because it fetches most packages from the internet |
| 01:40.34 | markybob | romare: it's netinst. that means the installer downloads most things |
| 01:40.44 | romare | perfect |
| 01:40.56 | Siema | that's* |
| 01:40.57 | mrrhq | Wait, the setinstall is 265mb? |
| 01:41.01 | mrrhq | Think about that for a minute. |
| 01:41.05 | mrrhq | *netinstall |
| 01:41.13 | abrotman | yes? |
| 01:41.19 | TomTomTosh | thinks |
| 01:41.19 | markybob | mrrhq: what am i thinking about? |
| 01:41.22 | romare | another question, is it a pain in the ass to install it as dual boot? |
| 01:41.31 | abrotman | romare: it's not, install windows first, then Linux |
| 01:41.35 | mrrhq | The netinstall should be like nothing. |
| 01:41.36 | Siema | No more than Ubuntu |
| 01:41.37 | markybob | romare: no. the installer should detect it |
| 01:41.44 | romare | oh perfect |
| 01:41.50 | mrrhq | The minmal install should be that much or <400mb. |
| 01:41.55 | markybob | mrrhq: no. it's an entire basic system |
| 01:41.59 | MorpheusArch | ubuntu is super easy to install & dual boot |
| 01:42.03 | markybob | mrrhq: what? |
| 01:42.05 | abrotman | mrrhq: yes, 265MB is less than 400MB .. what's the issue? |
| 01:42.19 | cypher1 | anyone able to help with install php 5.4 on wheezy everytime i try and force install the version i get this error dpkg : Breaks: php5-fpm (< 5.6.4+dfsg-3~) but 5.4.45-0+deb7u2 is to be installed |
| 01:42.21 | MorpheusArch | its point and click not much can go wrong |
| 01:42.26 | cypher1 | which makes no sense.. |
| 01:42.28 | jmcnaught | romare: it goes without saying, but make sure to do a backup of windows first |
| 01:42.30 | abrotman | cypher1: pastebin your sources.list |
| 01:42.32 | mrrhq | Well I thought a netinstall would fetch everything over the Internet. |
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| 01:42.50 | mrrhq | But I guess maybe it has more of a base to it than I thought. |
| 01:42.53 | abrotman | mrrhq: the netinst contains enouhg for a functoinal system, without internet (despite its name) |
| 01:42.57 | MorpheusArch | have u tried dpkg -i php5.deb |
| 01:43.03 | abrotman | mrrhq: if you want smaller, they might still have the bizcard |
| 01:43.21 | romare | thank you all fellas |
| 01:43.23 | markybob | definitely not firmware though |
| 01:43.58 | MorpheusArch | without internet you wont be able to install a DE with just netinst though |
| 01:44.09 | MorpheusArch | ...just reminding u :P |
| 01:45.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell MorpheusArch about u |
| 01:45.11 | abrotman | ...just reminding you :P |
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| 01:45.31 | markybob | it always makes me happy inside when abrotman is the asshole and not me :P |
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| 01:46.03 | romare | also, I don't need to make a swap partition or sth, right? |
| 01:46.14 | abrotman | romare: up to you .. you can use a swap file if you prefer |
| 01:46.21 | markybob | romare: how much ram do you have, btw? |
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| 01:46.29 | romare | 4gb |
| 01:46.37 | abrotman | more importantly, what will the system do? |
| 01:46.40 | markybob | romare: yeah i'd make swap |
| 01:47.00 | romare | abrotman, nothing much. surfing and using programs |
| 01:47.03 | romare | not rendering or anything |
| 01:47.11 | romare | it's a thinkpad t410 |
| 01:47.11 | markybob | abrotman: it's a laptop. can't be much |
| 01:47.47 | mrrhq | I must be thinking of PXE install. |
| 01:48.06 | mrrhq | There's a way to install whole systems of GNU/Linux using like 17kB files. |
| 01:48.14 | mrrhq | I'm tryin got remember what it is. |
| 01:48.29 | mrrhq | It just pulls literally every single thing from the Internet. |
| 01:48.30 | romare | I don't know what swap does. I just want it to ask me if I wanna boot to windows or debian. but I mostly see they make swap in videos. |
| 01:48.57 | markybob | romare: saw comes into play when you run out of ram. for your amount i'd use 4G swap |
| 01:48.59 | dvs | romare: If you have a laptop it's very important for hibername |
| 01:49.05 | dvs | hibernate |
| 01:49.20 | markybob | swap* |
| 01:49.27 | abrotman | mrrhq: there is .. go read the installation guide |
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| 01:49.42 | cypher1 | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/664RbCLL |
| 01:50.06 | markybob | cypher1: don't use pastebin. most of us can't read it |
| 01:50.18 | markybob | cypher1: use paste.debian.net |
| 01:50.37 | cra1g321 | here you go - http://paste.debian.net/402459/ |
| 01:50.42 | mrrhq | Yeah, found it. https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall |
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| 01:51.13 | romare | thank you all, gonna try it now. wish me luck |
| 01:51.18 | cypher1 | i think i see what is wrong now anyways lol got stable apt and wheezy :| |
| 01:51.18 | romare | I'm quite a rookie at this |
| 01:51.24 | markybob | mrrhq: a main problem is that you're mixing releases and you have wheezy security but not jessie security |
| 01:51.29 | MorpheusArch | why cant you read pastebin?? |
| 01:51.33 | cra1g321 | cypher1, lines 2 and 3 are "stable" that means it is looking at jessie's packages not wheezy |
| 01:51.38 | MorpheusArch | I can read it just fine |
| 01:51.48 | cypher1 | cheers cra1g321 |
| 01:52.01 | markybob | MorpheusArch: good for you. doesn't work for a lot of us. considers spam |
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| 01:52.57 | dvs | MorpheusArch: If too many people look at the same link, paste.com considers it spam. |
| 01:52.57 | mrrhq | markybob: Oh yeah, it is a wheezy article, but someone could update it to say stable or jessie sometime. |
| 01:53.15 | markybob | mrrhq: no that's how you break things |
| 01:53.18 | MorpheusArch | oh right |
| 01:53.27 | abrotman | mrrhq: I said, read the installation manual |
| 01:54.02 | mrrhq | I am also a #debian-next user, but that channel is never active. :\ |
| 01:54.20 | mrrhq | I should set up a stable server sometime. |
| 01:54.21 | markybob | mrrhq: seriously, really the manual is crucial. that are a lot of things that break between wheezy->jessie |
| 01:55.06 | mrrhq | Oh okay, you mean people shoudl read the manual over the Wiki? |
| 01:55.17 | MorpheusArch | anyone remember the pain that was "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 01:55.24 | abrotman | mrrhq: you just said it was out of date |
| 01:55.26 | ksx4system | is there any good alternative to Microsoft OneNote? |
| 01:55.31 | abrotman | MorpheusArch: no, you're thinking of a different distro |
| 01:55.35 | abrotman | ksx4system: which does what? |
| 01:56.31 | ksx4system | abrotman, an app to keep multiple notepads with multiple pages inside, preferably able to sync between laptop and desktop (yes, I can rsync it) |
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| 01:56.45 | mrrhq | ksx4system: Vim? :p |
| 01:56.47 | markybob | ksx4system: so https://keep.google.com ? |
| 01:57.02 | MorpheusArch | ftp between the 2 ? |
| 01:57.09 | ksx4system | mrrhq, nano because vim sucks... and no, it's not what I'm searching for |
| 01:57.15 | mrrhq | I usually just take notes on my smartphone, too. |
| 01:57.23 | hippytaff | ksx4system: tomboy? |
| 01:57.25 | markybob | mrrhq: that's keep |
| 01:57.45 | hippytaff | also preffers nano over vim/macs |
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| 01:57.49 | MorpheusArch | same |
| 01:57.51 | ksx4system | markybob, not a web tool (I can already use OneNote web version but, well, it needs Internet access) |
| 01:57.51 | abrotman | ksx4system: Are you a Gmail person? They have "Google Keep" |
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| 01:58.14 | markybob | abrotman: i thought i said that twice :P no one is listening tonight |
| 01:58.15 | abrotman | ksx4system: so you want a system that keeps files in sync, without internet? |
| 01:58.29 | TomTomTosh | you can't compare nano to vim or emacs... |
| 01:58.51 | MorpheusArch | Yes 1 is better than the other |
| 01:58.54 | MorpheusArch | Its very easy |
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| 01:59.06 | ksx4system | abrotman, a system which allows me to note and read what's available on disk and (optionally) sync when there's Internet and/or local network connection |
| 01:59.31 | markybob | abrotman: keep as offline :P |
| 01:59.37 | mrrhq | Well, Iw asn't going to mention Emacs for note-taking, buuut... |
| 01:59.38 | markybob | ksx4system: |
| 01:59.40 | abrotman | Evernote? |
| 01:59.41 | markybob | abrotman: sorry |
| 01:59.46 | mrrhq | I mean Emacs has plugins for that. |
| 01:59.52 | jmcnaught | ksx4system: a bunch of text files in a Git repo, use whatever editor you like? |
| 02:00.07 | MorpheusArch | ftp :P |
| 02:00.07 | mrrhq | Well, vim also has a plugin system. |
| 02:00.12 | ksx4system | jmcnaught, not even close in functionality |
| 02:00.27 | mrrhq | I just use the Notesapp on my Android phone, like a loser. |
| 02:00.31 | mrrhq | *Notes app |
| 02:00.34 | markybob | ksx4system: what exactly is your problem with keep? |
| 02:00.54 | cra1g321 | he wants to be able to read them offline too |
| 02:01.01 | markybob | cra1g321: it does that |
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| 02:01.14 | hippytaff | spideroak? |
| 02:01.26 | mrrhq | I can't de-googlefy becuse of YouTube, still. |
| 02:01.32 | cra1g321 | markybob, on the desktop ? i only use it on my phone |
| 02:01.34 | mrrhq | And GMail. |
| 02:01.37 | markybob | cra1g321: yes |
| 02:01.38 | ksx4system | markybob, 1) it's provided by Google 2) it's web application |
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| 02:01.45 | mrrhq | Because I'm too retarded to set up my own email. |
| 02:01.46 | MorpheusArch | seriously now |
| 02:01.54 | MorpheusArch | what about a notepad and pen ? |
| 02:01.54 | mrrhq | Or I don't wanna pay for a VPS. |
| 02:01.55 | ksx4system | 3) it's most likely less powerful than OneNote is |
| 02:02.00 | markybob | ksx4system: okay. so you're just being stupid. |
| 02:02.16 | abrotman | ksx4system: a git/svn repo is not sufficient? |
| 02:02.25 | markybob | ksx4system: it works offline. so it's just "it's google"? |
| 02:02.27 | TomTomTosh | buy microsoft is okay? lol |
| 02:02.55 | ksx4system | TomTomTosh, buy? it's freeware |
| 02:03.06 | abrotman | he mistyped, but |
| 02:03.23 | TomTomTosh | i don't think you can buy microsoft :P |
| 02:03.31 | cra1g321 | votes for google keep or dropbox with a load of txt files ;) |
| 02:03.33 | abrotman | !ot |
| 02:03.33 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 02:03.46 | mrrhq | Ugh, Dropbox. |
| 02:04.02 | mrrhq | Syncthing has a third-party Debian repo if oyu really want to use that. |
| 02:04.09 | mrrhq | But idk. |
| 02:04.24 | ksx4system | abrotman, paper plus pen(cil) so far is closest in terms of ease of use (if there only were drivers for my Wacom digital pen...) |
| 02:04.34 | mrrhq | If you set a Debian chroot on your Android smartphone, you could use rsync easily. |
| 02:04.45 | mrrhq | Or find an rsync app. |
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| 02:04.58 | mrrhq | Or develop one. |
| 02:05.12 | mrrhq | (Syncthing also should work on Android.) |
| 02:05.21 | TomTomTosh | listen to abrotman, kids :P |
| 02:05.24 | abrotman | wtf is syncthing ? |
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| 02:05.29 | abrotman | do you even read what you type? |
| 02:05.32 | mrrhq | A sync program. |
| 02:05.40 | markybob | heh |
| 02:05.49 | abrotman | mrrhq: This isn't going to be what he wants apparently |
| 02:05.57 | abrotman | mrrhq: you've suggested it three times, he keeps ignoring you |
| 02:05.58 | MorpheusArch | its a sync thing |
| 02:05.59 | MorpheusArch | get it |
| 02:06.06 | mrrhq | He want's the "cloud". |
| 02:06.09 | mrrhq | Just why. |
| 02:06.17 | petn-randall | Is that like the cousin of swamp thing? |
| 02:06.19 | mrrhq | Nvm. |
| 02:06.19 | abrotman | why do you care? If you do'nt wan tto help, just be quiet |
| 02:06.24 | ksx4system | mrrhq, it's not really a problem to sync stuff (a tiny bash wrapper for rsync will do), there's just nothing as good to take complicated sets of notes (of brainstorming as an example) as OneNote is |
| 02:06.49 | mrrhq | You're just being a rude hard-ass. |
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| 02:06.57 | abrotman | mrrhq: stop |
| 02:07.03 | mrrhq | :p |
| 02:07.09 | abrotman | mrrhq: If you don't want to help, just go do something else .. |
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| 02:07.21 | ksx4system | abrotman, thank you |
| 02:07.23 | grub23 | hi all |
| 02:07.24 | abrotman | grub23: much better |
| 02:07.26 | jmcnaught | ksx4system: Is this more like what you're looking for? http://basket.kde.org/ |
| 02:07.27 | grub23 | thanks |
| 02:07.28 | dvs | grub23: better? |
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| 02:07.44 | grub23 | so I installed jessie from a USB stick onto a new laptop, overwriting windows 10 |
| 02:07.53 | MorpheusArch | good |
| 02:08.02 | ksx4system | jmcnaught, most likely it is :) |
| 02:08.07 | grub23 | it all seemed to go fine. it told me to remove the USB stick and reboot, but then it could find no bootable image |
| 02:08.19 | grub23 | so I guess grub isn't set up right, or I need to tinker with the BIOS - any advice? |
| 02:08.29 | markybob | grub23: so i'm guessing you have UEFI since you're windows 10 with secure boot enabled? |
| 02:08.30 | ksx4system | jmcnaught, thank you, I'll try it out |
| 02:08.35 | MorpheusArch | Fiddle with UEFI settings |
| 02:08.36 | dvs | grub23: Enter rescue mode on the USB? |
| 02:08.58 | grub23 | I booted from the USB stick in rescue mode, and tried to install grub, but no luck. now I'm in a rescue shell (hence the root login...) |
| 02:09.17 | grub23 | I had secure boot enabled, yes. I tried disabling it, but no luck. it was enabled when I installed I think |
| 02:09.27 | jmcnaught | ksx4system: you're welcome. another suggestion i had was ikiwiki which is a wiki with a git or svn backend, but that doesn't seem like what you want interface wise |
| 02:09.30 | markybob | grub23: debian doesn't support secure boot. you have to install it with it off |
| 02:09.42 | grub23 | I have to reinstall everything? |
| 02:09.51 | markybob | grub23: yes |
| 02:09.54 | grub23 | ugh |
| 02:10.02 | abrotman | Doesn't the installation manual cover this? |
| 02:10.08 | MorpheusArch | yes make sure secure boot is off |
| 02:10.11 | markybob | abrotman: yes |
| 02:10.11 | grub23 | waits for someone to contradict markybob... ;) |
| 02:10.24 | dvs | markybob: Wow. I though turning off Secure Boot would do it. |
| 02:10.25 | jmcnaught | ksx4system: oh yeah there's also freemind in the debian repos, a mindmapper tool you might like |
| 02:10.39 | grub23 | what difference does it make whether secure boot is enabled during install? |
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| 02:10.49 | abrotman | dvs: you can't write to the BIOS IIRC, you have to disable it before instalation ? |
| 02:10.55 | MorpheusArch | think about it |
| 02:11.03 | MorpheusArch | what is secure boot trying to do |
| 02:11.27 | hippytaff | boot scurely? |
| 02:11.31 | markybob | grub23: you're going to wait for a very long time |
| 02:11.34 | grub23 | the installer downloaded a bunch of packages, took several hours to do so. I don't want to have to do all that again |
| 02:11.38 | grub23 | lol |
| 02:11.44 | MorpheusArch | several hours? |
| 02:12.03 | MorpheusArch | did you download all 43000 packages? |
| 02:12.10 | abrotman | grub23: you might be able to boot into theinstaller, and just install grub ? |
| 02:12.11 | markybob | MorpheusArch: sure. my main access at home is cell phone tethering |
| 02:12.13 | grub23 | I didn't time it, but long enough that I did two laps of the dog park, prepared and ate dinner |
| 02:12.25 | grub23 | "install grub" is the command? |
| 02:13.17 | markybob | grub23: grub-install /dev/sdX |
| 02:14.04 | grub23 | which X? |
| 02:14.08 | MorpheusArch | lsblk |
| 02:14.09 | grub23 | oh, I see |
| 02:14.18 | hippytaff | what? grub23 asking how to install grub? I've fallen asleep at my desk again haven't I!? |
| 02:14.21 | markybob | grub23: i don't know. whatever your hd is. normally /dev/sda |
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| 02:15.58 | ksx4system | jmcnaught, thanks for suggesting freemind! this one will really help |
| 02:16.00 | grub23 | "grub-install /dev/sda" tells me "grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory" |
| 02:16.23 | markybob | grub23: yeah it's probably easier to just start over |
| 02:16.26 | grub23 | I installed the x86_64 version - idk why it's looking for i386-pc |
| 02:16.38 | markybob | grub23: what was the iso name? |
| 02:16.50 | grub23 | the one you told me to use - firmware...iso |
| 02:16.55 | markybob | oh |
| 02:16.57 | jmcnaught | ksx4system: cool, i hope they work out for you. i don't use either one myself, more of a vim+git kind of person. there are probably a few others in the repos like them |
| 02:17.30 | markybob | grub23: anyway that wasn't several hours :P |
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| 02:17.36 | grub23 | sure it was! |
| 02:17.38 | grub23 | check your logs |
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| 02:18.13 | markybob | anyway just redo it with secure disabled as the install guide says |
| 02:18.23 | grub23 | k |
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| 02:18.40 | grub23 | ty |
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| 02:32.35 | romare | hey fellas, I was installing debian. now it asks like "You need to make the newly installed system bootable, by installing the grub boot loader on a bootable device. the usual way to do this is to install GRUB on the master boot record of your first hard drive. if you prefer, you can install GRUB elsewhere on the drive, or to another drive, or even to a floppy." |
| 02:32.39 | romare | what to do? |
| 02:33.11 | dvs | romare: install grub on your boot drive? |
| 02:33.13 | markybob | romare: install to master boot record |
| 02:33.35 | markybob | romare: boot record. don't fuck this up |
| 02:33.48 | romare | lol ok ok |
| 02:33.49 | romare | thanks |
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| 02:37.53 | romare | oh what |
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| 02:38.02 | romare | it doesn't boot to the system |
| 02:38.09 | romare | there's no desktop? |
| 02:38.28 | romare | there's only romare@debian:~$ |
| 02:38.36 | dvs | romare: So install one. |
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| 02:38.44 | romare | how? |
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| 02:38.53 | romare | the installation has finished already |
| 02:39.00 | dvs | romare: Pick an environment you like |
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| 02:39.23 | markybob | romare: he mean's apt-get install xfce or apt-get install gnome or apt-get install kde or whatever |
| 02:39.52 | markybob | romare: then the easiest way to get it up is to reboot (without knowing which one you pick) |
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| 02:40.06 | Mattx | Hello |
| 02:40.19 | Mattx | What's the perioud nload reports for the ttl field? |
| 02:40.36 | Mattx | I see 11GB of incoming data, but I'm not sure for how many days |
| 02:40.37 | petn-randall | romare: You didn't select a desktop environment upon installation? |
| 02:40.44 | markybob | romare: which one do you want? because you might want to use the task package |
| 02:40.47 | romare | markybob, the computer is not connected to the internet. still can do that? and what environment can you recommend? |
| 02:40.59 | Mattx | Have you used the application nload? |
| 02:41.00 | markybob | romare: not from netinst |
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| 02:41.06 | dvs | romare: All of them then pick one |
| 02:41.06 | romare | petn-randall: it didn't ask any |
| 02:41.25 | markybob | romare: you can't do it from netinst |
| 02:41.56 | petn-randall | romare: You have a selection prompt, where you can select "desktop". Maybe you missed it. But nevermind. You can install it post-installation. |
| 02:42.14 | romare | ok |
| 02:42.22 | markybob | petn-randall: not without internet he can't |
| 02:42.38 | ChoppedDill_ | romare: connect to internet first |
| 02:44.01 | romare | can I do it without the cable? |
| 02:44.06 | romare | by a command? |
| 02:44.35 | hippytaff | wireless? |
| 02:44.46 | markybob | romare: can you install a DE from netinst without internet? no |
| 02:45.19 | markybob | romare: it's called netinst for a reason |
| 02:45.43 | afx237 | anybody tried using a seagate SMR hard drive (such as the 8tb) on debian jessie, any issues? |
| 02:45.58 | romare | no no what I ask is if I can connect wi-fi by entering a command? |
| 02:46.04 | LuMint | is there any manual recommended for those beginners who decided on trying netinst? |
| 02:46.18 | romare | because there's no desktop |
| 02:46.41 | markybob | romare: sure https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
| 02:46.48 | TomTomTosh | LuMint, the installation guide. |
| 02:47.09 | hippytaff | romare ifconfig wl0 up for whatever your wl0 is called |
| 02:47.29 | markybob | LuMint: netinst is a logical option. has nothin to do with "new" |
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| 02:47.48 | afx237 | LuMint: it's not specific to netinst, but there's not much to say about netist specifically anyway, all it means is that you have minimum packages installed to start with. https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ is a good guide though. |
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| 02:49.10 | LuMint | afx237: thanks |
| 02:51.19 | LuMint | https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/images/inst-tasksel.png is this menu present in netinstall? |
| 02:51.52 | LuMint | I somehow thought I would have to install even xorg myself |
| 02:52.54 | petn-randall | afx237: I don't have any first hand experience, but I assume they work just as any other HDD. |
| 02:53.14 | petn-randall | afx237: Just don't run a database on these things XD. |
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| 02:54.21 | afx237 | petn-randall: yeah hopefully all good, just thought i'd check in case there's any issues with an older kernel or anything like that to be aware of. yeah will only be using it for backups. |
| 02:54.50 | romare | oh man iwlist scan doesn't work |
| 02:55.02 | romare | sorry I'm such a noob |
| 02:55.27 | petn-randall | afx237: If you're interested, you can probably optimize for linear I/O, like putting the filesystem journal somewhere else, etc. But in practice that won't make a big difference, I guess. |
| 02:55.37 | TomTomTosh | romare, don't worry man, this is what the channel is for. |
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| 02:56.17 | afx237 | petn-randall: yeah not worried about performance, would rather keep it as simple as possible seeing its for backups. although i'll use btrfs for its checksumming and snapshotting. |
| 02:56.46 | romare | TomTomTosh: thanks sir |
| 02:56.53 | romare | so now I want to connect wi-fi |
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| 02:57.42 | markybob | romare: you should use the firmware installercdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 02:58.03 | petn-randall | afx237: Just keep an eye on the SMART data, other than that there's nothing to take care of, I think. |
| 02:58.15 | petn-randall | markybob: You're missing a space. |
| 02:58.33 | markybob | petn-randall: i never said i was perfect. i do kinda suck |
| 02:59.13 | markybob | romare: but yeah. do what petn-randall said. who said to do what i said. that's good |
| 03:00.11 | petn-randall | romare: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 03:00.46 | markybob | is that not what i linked to? |
| 03:00.47 | petn-randall | markybob: You're doing fine, I was just pointing out that the URL didn't work because of the missing space. :) |
| 03:00.52 | ksx4system | jmcnaught, while searching for alternatives to basked I found tiny tool named Zim - it's *very* close copy of what OneNote does |
| 03:00.55 | markybob | :P |
| 03:00.56 | petn-randall | markybob: Nothing more, nothing less :) |
| 03:01.00 | ksx4system | basket* |
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| 03:01.40 | huggy884 | Hello |
| 03:01.42 | markybob | ksx4system: you need to stop beeing dumb. no one will give you anything else |
| 03:01.44 | romare | what do I do with it now? |
| 03:01.49 | huggy884 | Someone here using Kali? |
| 03:02.01 | petn-randall | !kali |
| 03:02.01 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 03:02.11 | huggy884 | Thanks |
| 03:02.18 | markybob | huggy884: no |
| 03:02.24 | romare | markybob: sir can we talk in private? |
| 03:02.35 | markybob | romare: |
| 03:02.46 | markybob | romare: okay |
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| 03:04.25 | ksx4system | markybob, I've already found the perfect solution and I've shared it (just for reference) |
| 03:04.40 | humbot | !siduction |
| 03:04.40 | dpkg | methinks siduction is a distribution that is <based on Debian> sid. It is not supported in #debian. Try #siduction on irc.oftc.net. http://siduction.org/ |
| 03:04.54 | markybob | ksx4system: so the problem is what? |
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| 03:06.48 | ksx4system | markybob, I don't see any problem right not |
| 03:07.19 | ksx4system | I've just shared my solution (Zim) |
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| 03:07.35 | markybob | goes to bed |
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| 03:08.33 | grub23 | ok, so "several hours" was an exaggeration |
| 03:08.41 | dvs | heh |
| 03:09.00 | grub23 | I reinstalled, without 'secure boot' enabled. now it boots, but the touchpad doesn't work |
| 03:10.14 | abrotman | getting real needy over there :) |
| 03:10.20 | abrotman | grub23: doesn't work at all? |
| 03:10.35 | grub23 | well, the mouse cursor is in the center of the screen, and won't move |
| 03:10.48 | grub23 | I'm having to remember alt-f1 to open the applications menu and such like |
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| 03:12.28 | grub23 | I seem to remember 'lspci' used to show the touchpad device, but it's not doing so for me |
| 03:12.39 | abrotman | lsusb per haps? |
| 03:13.08 | grub23 | lsusb shows a few hubs, and a card reader |
| 03:13.19 | grub23 | and 'suyin corp' |
| 03:13.51 | abrotman | dmesg | grep -i touch ? |
| 03:14.09 | grub23 | nother |
| 03:14.11 | grub23 | nothing* |
| 03:14.23 | abrotman | grep -i mouse ? |
| 03:15.23 | grub23 | [0.9xx] mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice |
| 03:16.45 | grub23 | someone on ubuntuforums suggests changing touchpad to basic in bios settings |
| 03:18.11 | abrotman | yes, if that's an option |
| 03:18.18 | grub23 | I'll check, ty |
| 03:18.57 | abrotman | or update your kernel to somehting newew |
| 03:18.59 | abrotman | newer even |
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| 03:19.55 | TomTomTosh | could have checked synaptics, but he's gone. |
| 03:19.58 | TomTomTosh | :S |
| 03:21.28 | TomTomTosh | maybe it was just disabled for whatever reason. |
| 03:22.31 | abrotman | yeah, they usally ship laptops with disabled trackpads |
| 03:22.40 | abrotman | intelligence test |
| 03:23.32 | dvs | hates when that happens |
| 03:24.04 | abrotman | s/intelligence/canadian/ |
| 03:25.16 | dvs | !test |
| 03:25.16 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 03:27.18 | TomTomTosh | honks |
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| 04:07.25 | romare | installing debian again |
| 04:07.40 | romare | Some of your hardware needs non-free firmware files to operate. The firmware can be loaded from removable media, such as a USB stick or floppy. |
| 04:08.00 | romare | The missing firmware files are: rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin |
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| 04:08.12 | romare | what to do? |
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| 04:10.11 | abrotman | did you use hte firmware iso, or osmething else? |
| 04:10.46 | dvs | <markybob> romare: you should use the firmware installercdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 04:11.25 | dvs | <petn-randall> romare: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 04:11.57 | romare | when I click on that, I see folders. I just don't know what to do |
| 04:12.05 | romare | I don't know what hte firmware is |
| 04:12.06 | abrotman | get one of them? |
| 04:12.12 | abrotman | are you installing amd64? |
| 04:12.37 | romare | yes |
| 04:13.22 | dvs | gets out the spoon |
| 04:13.29 | TomTomTosh | romare, just talked to me a private chat. i gave him the correct firmware iso. |
| 04:13.40 | abrotman | no, talk in here |
| 04:13.45 | romare | e.g. |
| 04:13.47 | romare | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-cinnamon-desktop+nonfree.iso |
| 04:13.47 | dvs | romare: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/firmware-8.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
| 04:13.55 | abrotman | romare: not the LiveCD |
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| 04:14.01 | dvs | romare: What did you get a live? |
| 04:14.11 | abrotman | TomTomTosh: we prefer people keep support in the channel, thank you |
| 04:14.42 | romare | okay dvs, so I download that? |
| 04:14.49 | dvs | yes |
| 04:14.50 | romare | the one you copied? |
| 04:14.54 | dvs | yes |
| 04:14.55 | TomTomTosh | abrotman, okayo. sry for that. |
| 04:15.13 | romare | twas my bad btw |
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| 04:17.55 | romare | dvs, what DE does that have? or will it ask me which one I want to choose? |
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| 04:18.14 | dvs | romare: It defaults to GNOME |
| 04:18.32 | dvs | but you can install whatever you want once the install is over. |
| 04:18.46 | romare | okay |
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| 04:31.06 | poffs | need some quick help with a SSH debug https://paste.debian.net/plain/402482 |
| 04:31.07 | dhoko | sorry but installing the firmware-realtek package from non-free does not make the trick? |
| 04:31.36 | dhoko | romare's firmware is here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek |
| 04:32.03 | dhoko | just saying... |
| 04:32.10 | abrotman | dhoko: he's in the installer, let it go |
| 04:32.29 | dhoko | ok, no problem |
| 04:33.33 | poffs | nevermind. i tried the command again and it worked lol |
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| 04:40.28 | romare | do I say "Install" or "64 bit install"? |
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| 04:43.05 | hiya | is https://lut.im untrusted too now? |
| 04:43.12 | hiya | What is wrong with Iceweasel |
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| 04:43.19 | hiya | Or people are not updating SSL certs |
| 04:43.49 | LambdaComplex | hiya: i'm on firefox and arch and getting an error |
| 04:43.54 | LambdaComplex | so i'm guessing someone forgot to update a cert |
| 04:44.04 | romare | can someone help? |
| 04:45.31 | hiya | LambdaComplex, A lot of people are forgetting to update, or maybe they all plan to install lets encrypt hence "not updating" |
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| 04:45.35 | hiya | and letting it expire |
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| 04:47.26 | LambdaComplex | sounds dumb |
| 04:47.29 | LambdaComplex | and feasible |
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| 04:48.55 | romare | again, it says rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin is missing |
| 04:51.46 | romare | sorry if I'm spamming but I need help |
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| 04:57.20 | dhoko | romare: just do it this: https://serverfault.com/questions/240920/how-do-i-enable-non-free-packages-on-debian |
| 04:57.40 | dhoko | then, as root install the following: |
| 04:57.42 | hiya | I want to investigate the issue - my Hexchat would freeze randomly when I am typing and it happens too often, I have Iceweasel on, OpenVPN connected and Tor Browser Sock5 proxy is connect to Hexchat, What could be the issues? i5-4th gen laptop, Dell 3542, with Intel HD 4400 graphics, I am using backported graphics |
| 04:57.53 | Rusty1 | romare: have you installed firmware-realtek, from nonfree repos? |
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| 04:58.03 | dhoko | apt-get install firmware-realtek |
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| 04:59.07 | TomTomTosch | he is in ste installer. i thought the installer would autodetect the firmware :S |
| 04:59.15 | TomTomTosch | s/ste/the |
| 04:59.44 | romare | there's no way to type a command right now |
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| 05:14.04 | rue_house | how do I turn on the kernel boot messages? instead of just seeing "loading..." |
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| 05:20.58 | shaun413_ | Hi |
| 05:21.16 | hiya | shaun413_, hey :) |
| 05:22.16 | romare | Unable to locate package firmware-realtek |
| 05:22.18 | romare | PERFECTION |
| 05:22.23 | romare | going crazy here |
| 05:22.31 | romare | why isn't it just working |
| 05:22.48 | cluelessperson | So apparently if you have spaces in the path for debootstrap, it failes |
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| 05:23.07 | jmcnaught | romare: hey :) you'll figure it out. are you in the installer right now, or have you booted into the system? |
| 05:23.08 | romare | I don't understand what that means |
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| 05:23.23 | cluelessperson | romare, It's nonfree software |
| 05:23.25 | romare | the installing has finished and now there's no desktop again |
| 05:23.50 | cluelessperson | romare, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/kernel/firmware-realtek ? |
| 05:24.14 | Rusty1 | nonfree must be added to sources |
| 05:24.58 | cluelessperson | Rusty1, seeing as how it's right there in jessie's repo, how do you add that? |
| 05:25.07 | cluelessperson | Rusty1, so that you CAN install it? (isn't sure myself) |
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| 05:25.26 | romare | cluelessperson: and? I don't know what to do with those? |
| 05:25.41 | Rusty1 | http://serverfault.com/questions/240920/how-do-i-enable-non-free-packages-on-debian |
| 05:26.11 | cluelessperson | romare, echo deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:26.19 | jmcnaught | romare: firmware-realtek being missing is probably unrelated to having no desktop. do you have an internet connection on the system? |
| 05:26.23 | cluelessperson | romare, apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-realtek |
| 05:26.49 | TomTomTosch | jmcnaught, btw he used the +nonfree iso to install. |
| 05:26.53 | cluelessperson | romare, The /etc/apt/sources.list describes where apt sources it's information. :) |
| 05:27.29 | cluelessperson | romare, I believe the deal is that some proprietary things can't be included with othersoftware by default due to .. licenses |
| 05:27.52 | cluelessperson | romare, this is assuming you're running jessie, although you're likely up to date enough for that |
| 05:27.57 | TomTomTosch | he used the firmware iso :/ |
| 05:28.14 | cluelessperson | I don't know much about that |
| 05:28.22 | cluelessperson | and by not much, I mean nothing |
| 05:28.37 | cluelessperson | waits patiently for his live boot to finish buildling |
| 05:28.42 | cluelessperson | build ling, nice |
| 05:28.58 | romare | tell me about it. I have no idea what's going on |
| 05:29.09 | romare | first of all, deb: command not found |
| 05:29.34 | romare | it's not connected to the internet |
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| 05:30.18 | jmcnaught | not all of the firmwares available in packages are on the firmware installer by the way, not sure if the realtek firmwares are there or not |
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| 05:30.53 | cluelessperson | romare, What's your goal here? Depending on that, I can suggest the best course of action from here. |
| 05:31.08 | cluelessperson | romare, Usually installation is very easy, and I can get you on track pretty quick. |
| 05:31.34 | romare | my goal is first of all installing the os |
| 05:31.37 | jmcnaught | romare: okay and are you trying to connect with wifi or ethernet? if one doesn't work is the other a temporary option? |
| 05:32.02 | romare | got no cable |
| 05:32.17 | cluelessperson | romare, Be specific, what kind of OS do you want, what features do you want, etc. Some people have specific things that cause problems. |
| 05:32.25 | cluelessperson | romare, you mean no Ethernet cable? |
| 05:32.49 | romare | no ethernet cable |
| 05:33.03 | cluelessperson | romare, And last but not least, what makes it difficult, what resources do you have or not have, that we should keep in mind. |
| 05:33.06 | shaun413_ | Love my new Debian install |
| 05:33.18 | romare | and on my previous attempt, I couldn't connect via wifi |
| 05:33.23 | cluelessperson | romare, Do you have a second computer to prepare a USB with? |
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| 05:33.38 | romare | yes, I'm writing from my desktop |
| 05:33.49 | romare | trying to install debian on my thinkpad t410 |
| 05:34.09 | jmcnaught | romare: if you run the command "lspci -nn | grep -i network" can you tell us the PCI-ID for your wifi? It'll be the number that looks like [8086:0085] |
| 05:34.43 | cluelessperson | romare, 1. Can you fashion an ethernet cable? 2. Do you have another usb drive to transfer firmware over on? etc |
| 05:35.05 | cluelessperson | romare, It's easiest to just go base install, and install specifics after with internet connection, (if you can get a cable) |
| 05:35.11 | romare | 8086:10ea |
| 05:35.26 | jmcnaught | judd: pciid 8086:10ea |
| 05:35.27 | judd | [8086:10ea] is '82577LM Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'e1000e', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:10ea |
| 05:35.32 | romare | got no cable, that's pretty impossible right now |
| 05:35.52 | romare | got no any other usb stick |
| 05:36.26 | jmcnaught | romare: that card works out of the box if you used the firmware image, you just need to configure the network |
| 05:36.54 | romare | and how do I do that? |
| 05:37.04 | TomTomTosch | that's the ethernet nic, not the wifi card though. |
| 05:37.21 | romare | oh lol sorry |
| 05:37.22 | romare | then |
| 05:37.30 | romare | 10ec:8172 |
| 05:37.49 | jmcnaught | heh i just looked it up on thinkwiki |
| 05:38.01 | jmcnaught | judd: pciid 10ec:8172 |
| 05:38.02 | judd | [10ec:8172] is 'RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'rtl8192se' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8172 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 05:38.30 | cluelessperson | smiles that his debian live ram fs boot works right off |
| 05:39.02 | jmcnaught | and i was wrong. romare does "apt-cache policy firmware-realtek" say it's installed? which version? |
| 05:39.30 | romare | unable to locate package firmware-realtek |
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| 05:41.00 | jmcnaught | romare: can you download the package and copy it to a USB disk to move it to the laptop? |
| 05:41.33 | jmcnaught | romare: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-realtek/download |
| 05:42.26 | romare | can I put it on an sd card? or is it okay to erase the bootable usb drive I've made? |
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| 05:44.30 | jmcnaught | romare: if you've already booted into the new system and can recreate the install disk on the other computer, why not? also the SD card reader probably works according to http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Debian_7_Wheezy_on_a_ThinkPad_T410 (but it was wrong about the wifi card) |
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| 05:45.42 | romare | okay so I put it on the usb drive |
| 05:46.15 | romare | and now? |
| 05:46.27 | jmcnaught | romare: after you plug it into the laptop, run "dmesg | tail" and do you see anything about sdb or sdc ? |
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| 05:47.33 | romare | yes, lots of things |
| 05:47.49 | jmcnaught | romare: if it's on the first partition and the system labelled the device /dev/sdb run as root "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt", then if you "cd /mnt" and run ls you should see the package listed |
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| 05:48.46 | jmcnaught | romare: if the package is there, run "dpkg -i package.deb" (you can use the <tab> key to autocomplete the filename) |
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| 05:52.33 | romare | done |
| 05:52.40 | romare | now what do I do? |
| 05:52.43 | jmcnaught | romare: the package installed? |
| 05:52.55 | romare | yes |
| 05:53.32 | romare | now I have internet? |
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| 05:53.38 | romare | do I? how do I check? |
| 05:53.39 | romare | lol |
| 05:54.02 | jmcnaught | romare: well now you can "umount /mnt" to unmount the USB drive |
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| 05:54.39 | romare | target is busy it says |
| 05:54.58 | jmcnaught | romare: then you may need to reload the kernel module for your wifi card. i don't know what the module would be called, but maybe try "lsmod | grep 8191" or change the 8191 for 'rt' to see if it's already loaded |
| 05:55.27 | jmcnaught | romare: you need to change directory out of /mnt before you can unmount it. just type "cd" and then the umount command again |
| 05:56.55 | romare | I guess it's installed |
| 05:57.14 | jmcnaught | romare: what did the "dpkg -i" command say when you ran it? |
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| 05:57.52 | romare | oh |
| 05:58.17 | romare | error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument |
| 05:58.50 | jmcnaught | romare: you need to use the file name for the package you downloaded |
| 05:59.25 | romare | oh that was way up somewhere |
| 05:59.33 | romare | oh shit |
| 05:59.36 | romare | I've got a class |
| 05:59.42 | romare | fuck |
| 05:59.43 | romare | I gotta go |
| 05:59.47 | romare | I hate this |
| 06:00.09 | romare | jmcnaught: you have no idea how thankful I am for your help |
| 06:00.20 | romare | I'll work on it again once I come back |
| 06:00.29 | jmcnaught | romare: well good luck later. i suspect that you may have told the debian installer not to enable non-free APT sources. if that's the case you could try reinstalling again |
| 06:00.47 | romare | seems like it |
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| 06:01.07 | romare | thank you sir |
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| 06:01.12 | jmcnaught | romare: also worth reading the debian install manual. it's not that long, at least skim it. debian should install fine on a thinkpad t410 |
| 06:01.19 | jmcnaught | romare: you're welcome, have a good day :) |
| 06:01.27 | romare | you too, sir |
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| 06:04.33 | TomTomTosch | did i get it right, that the firmware iso should autodetect needed firmware? |
| 06:05.18 | TomTomTosch | i wasn't so sure as i never had to use the firmware iso. |
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| 06:07.19 | jmcnaught | TomTomTosch: the firmware iso is missing some firmwares, but i think that if she/he had wifi connectivity during the installer, then the firwmare would normally have made it to the installed system too. i think some or all broadcom firmwares are missing on the firmware netinstaller iso, not sure about the realtek ones |
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| 06:11.05 | jmcnaught | TomTomTosch: it's also not hard to load missing firmwares using the regular installer. if you ever want to refer someone to how to do it, the part of the install manual that covers it is here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en (tl;dr you can download them from a link on that page, put them on a separate usb stick you plug in during the install) |
| 06:13.14 | TomTomTosch | jmcnaught, okayo, i'm going to read that now :) |
| 06:14.22 | TomTomTosch | jmcnaught, thank you. |
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| 06:14.55 | jmcnaught | TomTomTosch: cheers, i've noticed you helping a lot of people here :) |
| 06:15.17 | ToHellWithGA | is there a trick to make a bluetooth keyboard work during installation, or do i just need to go find a usb keyboard? |
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| 06:16.54 | ToHellWithGA | i'm on a semi-headless machine that has HDMI out via my stereo receiver and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. i might be able to get a long enough USB cable to lean away from the closet in which i keep all that stuff and see the TV on which the display outputs |
| 06:17.10 | TomTomTosch | jmcnaught, i try. i mostly quietly read and try to learn as much as i can though. this channel is great :D |
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| 06:21.47 | jmcnaught | ToHellWithGA: i don't know, but in the part of the debian installer where it asks if you want to load additional components there might be something bluetooth related. there is a network console component you can load there that lets you complete the rest of the install over SSH if that helps |
| 06:22.09 | jmcnaught | ToHellWithGA: you might need to start the installer in expert mode to get this option |
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| 06:23.20 | dionysus69 | hey if I fully delete contents of log dir, it will be recreated right? |
| 06:23.42 | ToHellWithGA | jmcnaught: i can only get to grub. as soon as debian's installer starts thinking about hardware i no longer have an active keyboard connection :/ |
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| 06:24.36 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:24.38 | jmcnaught | ToHellWithGA: ah. if you can find a usb keyboard you could start the install with it, after a few minutes you'll be able to switch to an SSH connection |
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| 06:24.39 | TomTomTosch | dionysus69, that depends on the application. it could create problems. |
| 06:24.57 | ToHellWithGA | jmcnaught: assuming i have working wifi XD |
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| 06:25.21 | dionysus69 | TomTomTosch: what do you mean depends on the application I am talking about debian /var/log |
| 06:25.39 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: i wouldn't do that without trying it out in a VM or container first, i think a lot of programs would have problems if there log file didn't exist |
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| 06:26.21 | dionysus69 | yes but /var/log is only for system logs and not for other programs right? |
| 06:26.38 | TomTomTosch | nope |
| 06:26.58 | jmcnaught | ToHellWithGA: heh yeah. if your wifi requires a firmware you might need to put that on a separate USB disk (unless you're using the firmware including installer) |
| 06:27.21 | TomTomTosch | dionysus69, apache has its logs there and a lot of other apps too. |
| 06:28.34 | dionysus69 | hmm ok ok I ll leave it alone, it is just sometimes on wake from suspend my state is lost and I log in to clean state instead of saved one. I noticed some "ERROR" words briefly before it logged in. and I couldn't track those errors down |
| 06:28.35 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: you can explore /var/log to see the types of things that log there |
| 06:29.03 | dionysus69 | it happens once every 5 wake of suspend, seems random and I don't know how to troubleshoot this |
| 06:29.08 | Phanes | just got latest fglrx to compile on kernel 4.3.5 r300 if anyone wants it to package it |
| 06:29.13 | Phanes | required some patching |
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| 06:30.23 | Phanes | anyone interested should pm me for details as i have alot of irc channels open |
| 06:30.40 | Phanes | proof is here: http://blog.surroindustries.com/fglrx-on-fedora-23/ |
| 06:30.43 | Phanes | goes to sleep |
| 06:30.45 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: if you're on jessie with systemd you can use "journalctl -b 0 --since -5min" to see all log entries for the last 5 minutes |
| 06:31.08 | dionysus69 | jmcnaught: thanks that is a handy command |
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| 06:31.46 | dionysus69 | jmcnaught: says no journal files were found though, and I am on jessie with systemd |
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| 06:32.23 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: are you root? you can add your user to the "adm" group if you want it to be able to access system logs without becoming root |
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| 06:38.53 | dionysus69 | things should be waking up instead of this ? I found this in journalctl log "ACPI: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3" |
| 06:39.22 | dionysus69 | no mention of the ERROR i noticed for a second before it disappeared before loggin |
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| 06:42.30 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: that's frustrating. not even any warnings or anything possibly related? i don't really understand what you mean about "should be waking up instead of this ?" though |
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| 06:44.09 | dionysus69 | I mean, the system was waking up so why was it preparing for sleep state S3? |
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| 06:44.41 | dionysus69 | and no nothing specific, just two lines of really quick errors before they disappeared and I cant find them in logs |
| 06:44.51 | dionysus69 | theres no mention of any serious error in logs actually |
| 06:44.52 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: maybe the system went to sleep before journal got and processed the log message, so it didn't get recorded until after the resume? |
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| 06:45.42 | dionysus69 | well I didnt notice anything anyways |
| 06:45.47 | tpanarch1st | hello - is anybody familiar with php-phar |
| 06:46.01 | tpanarch1st | there seems to be a lot of relevance with getting it right for Debian :) |
| 06:46.15 | dionysus69 | I checked all messages after system resume |
| 06:46.19 | jmcnaught | dionysus69: i have an issue with my laptop where it just sponteaneously reboots, and i check the end of the journal for the previoius boot when this happens, and i have not found any relevant errors. i know the pain. |
| 06:46.54 | tpanarch1st | jmcnaught: anything you have installed recently that has triggered the problem or could it be a hardware fault? |
| 06:47.11 | dionysus69 | haha ye, I am on laptop too and it becomes hard to tell people I use debian because its stable :D I want to fix this lol |
| 06:47.36 | rue_house | "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libattr1, probably a dependency cycle." Id be the only person in the world to get this error when using -f install? |
| 06:47.42 | tpanarch1st | i must admit i do love debian for running servers |
| 06:47.59 | dionysus69 | could it be related to fingerprint reader jmcnaught? |
| 06:48.12 | jmcnaught | tpanarch1st: it's been a problem since i got the laptop used a few months ago. it's probably a hardware issue, i just don't know what part. i'll figure it out eventually, i was just empathizing |
| 06:48.31 | dionysus69 | I love debian for anything, I am running ubuntu server just because I had limited time but any next server I have to setup myself will be debian for sure |
| 06:48.39 | rue_house | "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libattr1, probably a dependency cycle." Id be the only person in the world to get this error when using -f install? |
| 06:49.01 | rue_house | dionysus69, yea, debians circular dependency errors rock! |
| 06:49.05 | tpanarch1st | jmcnaught: #hardware are good for getting to the bottom of this, there is a program that they will recommend to assess the state of your hard drive, your next big thing by far is going to be memory and then motherboard |
| 06:49.18 | dionysus69 | rue_house: what is that even ? :D |
| 06:49.24 | tpanarch1st | jmcnaught: try doing something memory intensive |
| 06:49.27 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell rue_house about bat |
| 06:49.36 | rue_house | oh, you havn't had fun till youve had a circular depedency problem! |
| 06:50.03 | jmcnaught | tpanarch1st: thanks i'll keep that channel in mind when i'm ready to troubleshoot it for real. right now it only happens once or twice a month and it's not my only computer |
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| 06:51.03 | rue_house | I thik we should make a webpage where you enter all the information, it writes it all to /dev/null, and gives you a cistom URL to give to the support people who wont look at it anyhow |
| 06:51.25 | rue_house | but makes you feel like your doing your part, cause thats whats important |
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| 06:51.55 | rue_house | why the heck would I want multi-arch support when I will only run this system on in intel processor anyhow |
| 06:52.15 | tpanarch1st | sure jmcnaught no problem |
| 06:52.36 | tpanarch1st | how do i search apt-get for the name of a package please |
| 06:52.41 | tpanarch1st | im looking for php-phar :) |
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| 06:52.55 | grawity | apt-cache search --names-only phar |
| 06:53.00 | jmcnaught | tpanarch1st: "apt-cache search" and the more powerful "aptitude search" |
| 06:53.10 | tpanarch1st | thanks peeps :-D |
| 06:53.18 | tpanarch1st | have either of you come across needing this before? |
| 06:53.23 | grawity | that said, phar isn't a package |
| 06:53.34 | tpanarch1st | oh right grawity |
| 06:53.36 | tpanarch1st | :) |
| 06:53.40 | grawity | phar is, last I checked, a core part of php itself |
| 06:53.47 | tpanarch1st | grawity: akkkhh |
| 06:53.50 | grawity | (although iirc it got nuked in php 7) |
| 06:54.04 | tpanarch1st | I read what Daro said here http://osticket.com/forum/discussion/86012/php-warning-file-exists-osticket-v1-9-9-1-gbe2f138 |
| 06:54.14 | jmcnaught | tpanarch1st: i often use grep on apt-cache search results, or aptitude for its search filters like ~n for name |
| 06:54.23 | tpanarch1st | cant get my head round grep hehe |
| 06:54.29 | tpanarch1st | i was reading up on it earlier |
| 06:54.34 | rue_house | wow, I cant even try the old trick of asking it to do a system upgrade, its inissting on install -f and all that does it break saying there is a loop |
| 06:54.43 | rue_house | isn't there a break loop option? |
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| 06:57.13 | rue_house | it would be nice to be ale to tell apt to just forget about upgrades its tryign to do and that aren't working |
| 06:57.29 | rue_house | I couldn't install less right now if my life depended on it |
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| 06:58.26 | jmcnaught | rue_house: i'll help you troubleshoot if you put the info mentioned by dpkg in the bat factoid on the debian pastebin |
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| 06:59.26 | rue_house | that would take me about 2 hours, I was supposed to be in bed an hour ago |
| 06:59.32 | rue_house | thankyou for the offer |
| 06:59.48 | rue_house | maybe I'll try it tommorow with ya |
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| 07:03.37 | jmcnaught | tpanarch1st: grep is useful even if you only know a little bit. To search for a word in a file named blah.txt: "grep word blah.txt". You can also use * to search all files in a directory. To filter output of commands use a pipe: "apt-cache search php | grep phar" |
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| 07:28.38 | smhar | greetings |
| 07:30.47 | smhar | After an upgrade, I am not able to log int my computer. Debian boots with no apparent errors but in gdm, no keyboard or mouse is working.. I can boot into single user mode. by passing single to the grub2 boot parameters. |
| 07:31.41 | smhar | But I have no internet. I need to install the kyeboard and mouse files for X are they seem to be removed during the upgrade |
| 07:31.50 | Stummi | smhar, can you switch the tty with ctrl+alt+f2? |
| 07:32.04 | smhar | Stummi, no keyboard, so no |
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| 07:32.19 | Stummi | oh, with "not working" you mean "not available"? |
| 07:32.25 | Stummi | okay, misunderstood it then |
| 07:32.42 | Stummi | how are you passing grub2 boot params? |
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| 07:34.20 | smhar | Stummi, keyboard is working just before starting X |
| 07:34.45 | smhar | so a boot, I can edit the grub2 commandline |
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| 07:34.57 | smhar | Stummi, so at boot, I can edit the grub2 commandline |
| 07:35.04 | Stummi | okay |
| 07:35.29 | Stummi | so you have tried ctrl+alt+f2 already after gdm seems not to grab your keyboard and it didn't work? |
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| 07:35.43 | smhar | Stummi, but I want to enter the 'runlevel' with networking, just textmode |
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| 07:35.49 | smhar | Stummi, yes |
| 07:36.40 | Stummi | a coworker just had a simillar problem which happened because he somehow installed virtualbox guest modules without beeing in a virtualbox vm |
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| 07:37.42 | Stummi | smhar, try alt+sysrq+r |
| 07:38.21 | smhar | Stummi, tried.. but same.. |
| 07:38.55 | ascanio | Buongiorno, qualcuno mi direbbe che U.I. usa debian. Vorrei cominciare ad autiliozzarlo su un netbook e su un notebook datato |
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| 07:39.57 | Stummi | smhar, hm, okay. But you don't want the GUI anyways? Boot into the single user mode and disable it via "systemctl disable gdm", or just remove it entirely with apt/aptitude |
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| 07:40.29 | TomTomTosch | !it |
| 07:40.30 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 07:41.15 | ascanio | grazie dpkg |
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| 07:41.40 | smhar | Stummi, the problem is xserver-xorg-input-kbd is removed during the upgrade.. I need to install it again but with no keyboard at X OR no network at commandline I am clueless.. |
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| 07:43.29 | Stummi | smhar, what I meant was: reboot into single-user-mode, disable gdm, reboot into normal mode. |
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| 07:45.14 | Stummi | but not even sysrequests working is kinda suspicious. Are they disabled too by gdm/current X versions? |
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| 07:48.22 | smhar | Stummi, I booted in single user mode, disabled gdm, now updating/upgrading the system and then will enable gdm and reboot |
| 07:48.28 | smhar | Stummi, thank you |
| 07:49.02 | Stummi | np |
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| 07:49.54 | Stummi | site note: if you are running fglrx on testing, its broken with the current version of xorg, so if thats the case either downgrade xorg or remove fglrx |
| 07:50.53 | smhar | Stummi, I am still in the process of upgrading to testing... lots of small issues here and there but it will be done :-) |
| 07:51.03 | Stummi | okay |
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| 08:34.36 | debianfussed | what iso do i download for the initial install, the directory has two dvd1s, one being the update. |
| 08:35.00 | debianfussed | do i need to install both? |
| 08:35.05 | debianfussed | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.3.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 08:35.35 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, no. if you have internet access the netinstall is enough. you don't need the dvd. |
| 08:35.57 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, but if you want the dvd, dvd1 is for the install. |
| 08:36.50 | debianfussed | thx TomTomTosch, i seriously thing the website has plenty of room for improvement, its difficult to know what to download. |
| 08:36.58 | debianfussed | (think) |
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| 08:37.22 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, i agree, but you get used to it after a while ;D |
| 08:37.22 | debianfussed | at least for people like me, w small brain. :) |
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| 08:37.42 | nikitasius | helloworld |
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| 08:38.27 | debianfussed | TomTomTosch: so whats up with the 'update' then? |
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| 08:38.40 | debianfussed | is there to confuse people then? |
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| 08:40.01 | debianfussed | its sucks download failed (twice) |
| 08:40.10 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, it's for updating to 8.3. you don't need any of that if your machine has internet access. |
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| 08:41.05 | debianfussed | oh i see, i think i understand... that 'update' is for people that already have devian running w previous version and that would like to upgrade their production debian version. |
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| 08:42.18 | debianfussed | how that via the network works |
| 08:42.27 | northrup | ... and that don't have a stable / fast connection to the internet on that system |
| 08:42.30 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, but only if your machine has no internet. then you can put it on an USB stick. if you have internet the update is easy. |
| 08:42.33 | debianfussed | it seems that d/l the iso is futile. |
| 08:42.48 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, why? |
| 08:42.54 | debianfussed | oh i see. thx TomTomTosch now it is clear. |
| 08:43.25 | debianfussed | it keeps failing to download the 4.xgb file |
| 08:43.57 | debianfussed | prolly cuz my connection. |
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| 08:44.19 | northrup | debianfussed what are you trying to do? a new install? |
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| 08:45.13 | debianfussed | yes, northrup |
| 08:45.23 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, all you need is the netinst iso. |
| 08:45.57 | TomTomTosch | debianfussed, that's < 300MB |
| 08:46.00 | debianfussed | i am gave up on the dvd iso, downloading netinst iso now.. |
| 08:46.22 | northrup | TomTomTosch is right, from there the netinst will fetch whatever packages you need / want |
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| 08:48.31 | debianfussed | northrup: doing that, and finding instructions on how to |
| 08:48.38 | debianfussed | thx |
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| 08:49.36 | k_sze[work] | Does anybody know the *real* meaning of the timeout setting in auto.master(5)? |
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| 08:50.18 | k_sze[work] | as in, the '-t' or '--timeout' option for entries in auto.master(5). |
| 08:51.30 | k_sze[work] | The man page doesn't say what kind of timeout it is (does autofs give up trying to mount the mount point after that number of seconds? Or does autofs automatically unmount the mount point if it idles for that number of seconds? or what? |
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| 08:55.13 | TomTomTosch | as i understand that's the number of seconds of inactivity after which a fs will automatically be unmounted. |
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| 09:04.08 | nikitasius | there is strange: debian 8.3 (4.3.0-0.bpo.1-amd64), i've compilated gnupg2 as "./configure --with-pinentry-pgm=/usr/bin/pinentry-curses" and when i run gpg2 --gen-key i have "gpg: problem with the agent: No pinentry" |
| 09:05.20 | northrup | nikitasius you need to check your .gnupg directory |
| 09:05.30 | nikitasius | in my home? |
| 09:05.37 | northrup | nikitasius gpg-agent.conf should have an entry for your pinentry-program |
| 09:05.37 | northrup | yes |
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| 09:05.51 | nikitasius | gpa.conf and gpg.conf as conf files |
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| 09:06.06 | nikitasius | there is no gpg-agent.conf.. i'll create? |
| 09:06.36 | Flashtek | Good morning, I have a question regarding pppoe-server supporting kernel mode. Is anyone around that might be able to assist ? |
| 09:06.46 | northrup | create it and then do an attribute pair of: pinentry-program /whatever/you/want/to/use |
| 09:07.00 | northrup | nikitasius see if that doesn't help |
| 09:07.10 | nikitasius | i'll check now, moment |
| 09:08.10 | nikitasius | northrup same problem |
| 09:08.31 | northrup | hmmm... can you actually run /usr/bin/pinentry-curses and it execute? |
| 09:08.35 | northrup | or at least throw an error? |
| 09:08.38 | nikitasius | yes, asking orders |
| 09:09.53 | tpanarch1st | thanks jmcnaught :-D |
| 09:10.00 | tpanarch1st | thanks for your help earlier all :) |
| 09:10.09 | northrup | hmm... out of curiosity could you try running a gpg-agent with : gpg-agent --daemon |
| 09:10.10 | nikitasius | northrup i'll do now build-dep for this pinentry |
| 09:10.15 | nikitasius | maybe im missing something |
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| 09:10.28 | northrup | and then see if the gpg handoff to gpg-agent calls the right pin-entry |
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| 09:11.13 | nikitasius | northrup have no idea |
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| 09:12.28 | nikitasius | gpg from aptitude (1.4.7) works nice |
| 09:12.50 | nikitasius | from gpg2 manually made (for large keys, with edited keygen.c) gives me this |
| 09:13.04 | nikitasius | *but gpg2 |
| 09:13.58 | aindilis | is anyone interested in packaging a whole bunch of AI software? |
| 09:14.22 | aindilis | or know where I could find people who were? |
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| 09:17.32 | aindilis | or want to help me write a prolog agent using FLUX that plans and executes package creation from the rules |
| 09:17.36 | meth | This Keyboard feels so good |
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| 09:21.24 | northrup | meth what keyboard are you using? |
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| 09:22.45 | meth | CM Storm QuickFire Ultimate |
| 09:22.51 | meth | Blue Switchs |
| 09:23.07 | northrup | nice |
| 09:23.40 | northrup | I've got a Das Keyboard with blue switches that's sweet... |
| 09:23.49 | northrup | but I'm currently using a Kinesis Freestyle 2 |
| 09:24.28 | meth | It's my first Mechanical Keyboard |
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| 09:24.44 | k_sze[work] | What's wrong with this apt source? deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free |
| 09:24.44 | meth | and i never had that feel when i'm typing before |
| 09:24.51 | k_sze[work] | There's no jessie-backports yet? |
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| 09:25.25 | meth | I have Fat Fingers and My Apple Keyboard felt like i'm in middle of a jungle. |
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| 09:25.27 | northrup | meth onces you go sweet, sweet, mechanical... you'll never be satisfied with anything else |
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| 09:25.40 | meth | perhaps |
| 09:25.49 | k_sze[work] | Or there is not contrib and non-free for jessie-backports? |
| 09:25.54 | meth | some clarity is good, tho. |
| 09:26.29 | meth | I think i'll buy another one in the next PC build. |
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| 09:27.48 | babilen | k_sze[work]: That should work, but then we have no idea which mirror you actually get. What's the problem? Does a geographic mirror work? (i.e. "ftp.XX.debian.org" with XX in, for example, {de,uk,tw,hk,au,...}) |
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| 09:28.07 | nikitasius | northrup so.. since i;ve killed9 gpg-agent, it works.. |
| 09:28.20 | northrup | nikitasius woo! |
| 09:28.28 | k_sze[work] | babilen: I'm getting 403 Forbidden for main, contrib, and non-free, actually. |
| 09:28.41 | babilen | k_sze[work]: Which mirror do you end up with? |
| 09:28.49 | nikitasius | now im recompling all. cause it;s strange: apt-cache policy gnupg-agent show installw 26, but i have 29 version and gpg-agent shows 29.. |
| 09:29.10 | babilen | k_sze[work]: But then, that mirror seems to have problems. Try a different one: https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 09:29.56 | babilen | k_sze[work]: There's also httpredir.debian.net which works better than http.debian.net (which I consider to be obsolete these days), but generally speaking I typically stick to one of the ftp.XX.debian.org ones |
| 09:31.27 | k_sze[work] | I see. Let me try a different mirror. |
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| 09:32.45 | pierre365 | l |
| 09:32.52 | pierre365 | hi! |
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| 09:34.22 | pierre365 | i have a simple question regarding network interfaces. I have a network card recognized when doing lspci and the appropriate module driver loaded. However, no interface shows up when doing "ifconfig -a". Does anyone know how to match a network interface to a network card please? |
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| 09:35.36 | nkuttler | pierre365: nothing in dmesg? |
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| 09:39.09 | bezaban | pierre365: should not be required afaik. Loading the driver should create a device |
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| 09:44.17 | pierre365 | eerr the module fails loading... which is rather odd since it shows up when doing lsmod. thanks! |
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| 10:15.22 | nikitasius | so problem with pinentry and gpg-agent - compiled from source 2.0.29. But via aptitude was "installed" 2.0.26 even if gpg-agent --version show 2.0.29 . So i;ve deleted (via aptitude) gnupg-agent + gpa & gpgsm. After i've reconfigured, compiled and installed 2.0.29 and now all works fine and no bugs. gpg-agent and gpgsm have actual 2.0.29 version like my gpg2. But gnupg-agent have c and gpgsm have pB. |
| 10:15.34 | k_sze[work] | There is a somewhat nasty bug in autofs. |
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| 10:15.46 | nikitasius | now allworks.. |
| 10:15.50 | Filystyn | HELLLO |
| 10:15.53 | nikitasius | hi |
| 10:15.54 | Filystyn | a problem |
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| 10:16.09 | Flashtek | Filystyn: take a ticket |
| 10:16.10 | Filystyn | I need to make a dot in inkscape |
| 10:16.17 | Filystyn | not sure how to do it |
| 10:16.24 | Filystyn | ANYONE?! |
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| 10:17.53 | northrup | Filystyn this is a channel about the Debian OS... |
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| 10:18.36 | northrup | Filystyn you might want to ask your question over in #inkscape |
| 10:19.00 | DLmass | I have some kind of weird problem. I can't access ssh/sftp but I can access anything else. |
| 10:19.05 | DLmass | everything* |
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| 10:24.11 | meth | Windows Debian 11 ==> This seems possible in the future |
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| 10:33.52 | nikitasius | debian 8.3 uses udev? right? |
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| 10:39.47 | melindo | anyone knows of a good tutorial to modify the live iso to have persistent /home on a NFS share? what about getting the users from a Windows AD? i'm asking in both, #debian and #ubuntu because there are differences and I am not yet decided which distro to choose/use for this |
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| 10:40.48 | lelebart | hi, i'm trying to set wake on lan on my old pc. i've read this [[ https://wiki.debian.org/WakeOnLan ]] and here you are my pastebin [[ http://pastebin.com/ugMvqzzx ]] |
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| 11:00.32 | DLmass | Why does TCP wrapper block my connection directly upon connection? |
| 11:01.04 | DLmass | when I connect with ssh I get disconnected directly and my ip is added in /etch/hosts.deny |
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| 11:01.42 | grawity | DLmass: probably because it was blacklisted by denyhosts sometime earlier |
| 11:01.58 | grawity | try http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#3_19 |
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| 11:02.37 | DLmass | grawity, well I go into /etc/hosts.deny and remove my ip and it works. But then I try to open up another terminal window to access my other user. Then it shows my IP there again |
| 11:04.03 | grawity | yes |
| 11:04.11 | grawity | that's exactly why I'm giving you those instructions |
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| 11:05.59 | DLmass | Thanks, let me try that grawity |
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| 11:09.32 | goTAN | all of a sudden all my network inferfaces are gone, only lo is there. When I look at the last modification of etc/network/interfaces then it was when I installed the os... how is that even possible? |
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| 11:26.31 | rafalcpp_ | aptitude install ejabberd |
| 11:26.55 | rafalcpp_ | ends in errors, stating that it can not configure ejabberd, because The jabberd node 'ejabberd' is already running |
| 11:26.59 | rafalcpp_ | how to solve this |
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| 11:38.53 | Dex-Freudii | hi |
| 11:38.53 | Dex-Freudii | I have set a fixed IP address for a certain wireless network, but now when trying to connect to another network, debian wants to fix me the same IP that I wanted for the original network... |
| 11:38.54 | Dex-Freudii | how can I solve it? |
| 11:38.54 | Dex-Freudii | I also cannot re-configure the debian to use DHCP on the original network in stead of fixing that IP |
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| 11:39.06 | rafalcpp_ | how to confirm is my apt in "valid stte" after doing upgrades? e.g. like pt-get install -f |
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| 11:39.10 | rafalcpp_ | valid state |
| 11:39.39 | Dex-Freudii | I have set a fixed IP address for a certain wireless network, but now when trying to connect to another network, debian wants to fix me the same IP that I wanted for the original network... |
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| 11:39.54 | Dex-Freudii | I also cannot re-configure the debian to use DHCP on the original network in stead of fixing that IP |
| 11:40.01 | Dex-Freudii | how can I solve it? |
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| 11:40.02 | ksk | rafalcpp_: if an apt-get upgrade does nothing everything is fine |
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| 11:44.36 | asdv | I recently uninstalled the package version of ansible and compiled it, now I am getting `bash: /usr/bin/ansible: No such file or directory` when trying to run ansible, how do I fix this? |
| 11:44.41 | asdv | I know the path to the compiled version |
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| 11:47.26 | asdv | I recently uninstalled the package version of ansible and compiled it, now I am getting `bash: /usr/bin/ansible: No such file or directory` when trying to run ansible, how do I fix this? |
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| 11:49.02 | themill | asdv: is that the right path? |
| 11:49.15 | asdv | nope, /usr/local/bin/ansible is |
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| 11:49.24 | asdv | so I need to make debian check for /usr/local/bin/ansible instead of /usr/bin/ansible |
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| 11:49.31 | themill | asdv: hash -r |
| 11:49.39 | asdv | thanks |
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| 11:49.43 | themill | what's generating that message? |
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| 11:49.48 | asdv | "ansible" |
| 11:49.51 | asdv | hash -r fixed it |
| 11:49.53 | themill | yeah, hash -r |
| 11:50.14 | themill | !hash -r |
| 11:50.14 | dpkg | After changing your PATH or installing new packages, you may need to tell your shell to forget old program locations (or to forget that the command was not found). In bash, "hash -r" will do this ("help hash" for more details). In zsh, "rehash". See also <PATH>. |
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| 12:03.17 | asdv | I'm trying to decompress this .gz file, I've tried `gunzip backup.gz` and `gunzip -d backup.gz`, but all I get is `gzip: backup_2016-02-22-080036.sql.gz has 1 other link -- unchanged` |
| 12:03.20 | asdv | anybody know why? |
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| 12:07.11 | rafalcpp_ | how to check for, and fix, any possible inconsistencies in apt/dpkg/packages installed? |
| 12:07.20 | Dex-Freudii | asdv, https://github.com/sr320/fish546-2015/issues/42 |
| 12:07.41 | Dex-Freudii | rafalcpp_, sudo apt-get install -f |
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| 12:10.24 | asdv | thanks Dex-Freudii! |
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| 12:20.28 | grs | It appears that in Debian Jessie, the "who am i" command (note spaces intentional) doesn't actually work. On Arch and other distros, it's working just fine. |
| 12:20.46 | grs | Maybe a problem when packaging coreutils? |
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| 12:23.59 | radio_nowhere_ | What is the expected return? I get pts/2 2016-02-22 05:22 (:0) on my machine. |
| 12:25.06 | grs | The expected return is something like "grs pts/4 2016-02-22 12:18 (:0)" but on Jessie, fully up to date and all inside a VM, nothing at all. |
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| 12:26.10 | radio_nowhere_ | It works on my machine, I'll spin up a quick minimal vm. |
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| 12:27.23 | grs | kk |
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| 12:33.12 | radio_nowhere_ | Works on vm using jessie netinstall with nonfree firmware, with only standard system utilities. What install media did you use? |
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| 12:33.38 | radio_nowhere_ | Verify coreutils installed, apt-cache policy coreutils |
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| 12:37.35 | grs | Installed: 8.23-4 |
| 12:37.47 | grs | I used the same media as you did, jessie netinstall |
| 12:37.50 | poffs | hey how can I send a request to a webserver via shell? i want to output the result of the request to stdout. Just looking to get an ip address from icanhazip.com |
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| 12:38.02 | radio_nowhere_ | Are you using bash shell or something else? |
| 12:38.36 | grs | bash |
| 12:39.00 | grs | it's a clean vm with basic development tools installed |
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| 12:39.22 | radio_nowhere_ | I'm not sure what else to check, sorry. |
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| 12:39.34 | grs | Haha me neither, honestly scratching my head at this one |
| 12:39.49 | grs | thanks for assisting though :) |
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| 12:42.45 | Dex-Freudii | grs, try "who am you" |
| 12:43.17 | grs | nothing |
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| 12:44.08 | radio_nowhere_ | This may sound like a dumb question, but are you typing the quotes? Because it won't work if you are. |
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| 12:45.19 | Ticho | grs: curl http://icanhazip.com |
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| 12:45.45 | grs | haha, no, i'm not typing quotes |
| 12:46.02 | Ticho | err, that was for poffs, I guess |
| 12:46.04 | Ticho | poffs: curl http://icanhazip.com |
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| 12:46.25 | poffs | thanks Ticho |
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| 12:52.13 | grs | radio_nowhere, Dex-Freudii: reinstalled coreutils, now works. That was bloody weird. Thanks for the assist :) |
| 12:52.57 | radio_nowhere_ | That is strange. Glad you got it going. |
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| 12:58.26 | rafalcpp_ | why screen suddenly goes crazy, hangs for 1-10 seconds and then blinks 10-100 times the entire scree (like in visual bell)/ |
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| 13:16.40 | goldkatze | Hi :-) |
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| 13:18.41 | Walakea | i think some command using lm-sensors messed up my display |
| 13:19.06 | Walakea | OS reinstall didnt help |
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| 13:20.56 | ntz | hello |
| 13:21.13 | goldkatze | Where's the equivalent to ~/.thunderbird/init.d for Icedove? I created quite some symlinks, but it won't execute any scripts inside; +x is set. All versions from Debain Testing. |
| 13:21.23 | ntz | is disk saying me via this: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/57160474 : hello admin, I'm dying peacefully ? |
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| 13:22.49 | babilen | ntz: Looks like it. You might want to run a long test through smartctl and order a replacement |
| 13:23.08 | babilen | (see its manpage for details about the tests and how to view the result) |
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| 13:23.53 | ntz | babilen: I'm afraid that smartctl would be very impolite and intrusive to supposingly frail health of that disk |
| 13:24.19 | ntz | babilen: however I am asking because check how scsi address increments |
| 13:24.28 | ntz | might be also problem with controller |
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| 13:24.31 | ksk | just reading the values will not be an Issue, but running the tests, yes. |
| 13:24.35 | goldkatze | ntz: I suggest checking all hardware connections (lose cables), keep it running though, because it may not spin up again. remount filesystem readonly, use one of the dd variants which skip unreadable sectors to copy out all data that's left to another disk for backup/restore/rescue purposes, and only afterwards try to reboot (might be a firmware bug or a controller having a hickup), then run smartmontools for device self tests, then run badblocks |
| 13:24.37 | goldkatze | destructive read-write test. if all tests are fine, you're good to go, it shouldnt happen again, and propably just a bit flipped somewhere spuriously |
| 13:25.00 | goldkatze | ntz: important thing is not to start testing now, instead copy out all data that's still readable. |
| 13:25.11 | goldkatze | test after that's done. |
| 13:25.17 | ntz | goldkatze: it's in raid1 (at least) |
| 13:25.26 | goldkatze | ok then :-) |
| 13:25.30 | ntz | problem is that this server 300km far away |
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| 13:25.57 | ntz | so replacing this disk will make me busy for 6hrs of driving + some additional effort onsire |
| 13:26.00 | ntz | **onsite |
| 13:26.13 | goldkatze | reboot, smart tests, badblocks, if broken: buy some minutes of remote hands of data center :) |
| 13:26.21 | ntz | ok |
| 13:26.33 | goldkatze | cheaper than the petrol (and waste of time) to drive⦠|
| 13:26.36 | ntz | goldkatze: what do you think about that weird increments of sci address ? |
| 13:26.54 | ntz | **scsi address ..... I have already `friday typing syndrome' |
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| 13:28.01 | Slereah | Hello |
| 13:28.16 | jim | ntz, 6 hrs to get the disk? might as well get large ones, and possibly more than one... |
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| 13:28.34 | Slereah | I'm having some apt-get dependencies trouble |
| 13:28.44 | Slereah | Trying to install a bunch of packages, I get the following : |
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| 13:28.46 | Slereah | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 13:28.46 | Slereah | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.46 | Slereah | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.46 | Slereah | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.46 | Slereah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:28.52 | goldkatze | ntz: Unsure. I'd guess maybe the controller is broken, or the kernel resets it trying to recover? It's the controller ID that increments |
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| 13:29.05 | ntz | jim: 600km of driving + some effort onsite ..... that roughly 6 hours |
| 13:29.07 | Slereah | But trying to update those do not seem to work |
| 13:29.15 | Slereah | I'm not sure what to do |
| 13:29.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell Slereah -about bat |
| 13:29.30 | ntz | goldkatze: fair ... I think that I should replace that for safe |
| 13:29.31 | jim | ohh, you mean driving to the colo |
| 13:29.48 | goldkatze | ntz: With strange effects and harddisks, I try to get it fixed, rather than understanding the very last detail of it. doesnt usually help to get up and running again :) |
| 13:30.11 | Slereah | http://pastebin.com/JDRfPihQ |
| 13:30.14 | Slereah | There's the output |
| 13:30.44 | Pseudo | hi there |
| 13:30.50 | ntz | goldkatze: yeah |
| 13:30.59 | Pseudo | hi i meesed up with /etc/fstab |
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| 13:31.24 | blind | Slereah: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like |
| 13:31.40 | Pseudo | how do i fix it to previous state..now debian 8 on that computer wont boot |
| 13:31.51 | babilen | Slereah: Please include apt-cache policy output for packages in question, your sources.list(s) and please use a less horrible pastebin than pastebin.com such as http://paste.debian.net |
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| 13:31.55 | Pseudo | i think i got deleted 1 line from there |
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| 13:32.26 | babilen | Pseudo: You could chroot into the system (see "/msg dpkg fixmbr" for one way to do that (modulo the grub update bit)) |
| 13:32.52 | Pseudo | because i think its an error causing the slow booting for me to wait 1 mins and 30 secs |
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| 13:33.17 | Pseudo | babilen: i still on the tty shell |
| 13:33.29 | babilen | Pseudo: Ah, so it is booting! |
| 13:33.34 | Pseudo | but it wont boot finish to show gdm3 |
| 13:33.39 | Slereah | blind : http://pastebin.com/NX0zh5xH |
| 13:34.05 | babilen | mixing squeeze and trusty .. what could go wrong? |
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| 13:34.32 | Slereah | and the policy thing : |
| 13:34.32 | Slereah | http://pastebin.com/cWyDCfUt |
| 13:34.38 | Pseudo | until i login it do stucks in the middle without any DE |
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| 13:34.44 | blind | frankendebian :O |
| 13:35.24 | Pseudo | i just deleted a single line on /etc/fstab with nano to delete a swap partition |
| 13:35.25 | Slereah | and this one : http://pastebin.com/5HpAcniq |
| 13:35.25 | Pseudo | lol |
| 13:35.38 | babilen | Slereah: You mixed Debian and Ubuntu (and two utterly incompatible and different releases at that). That box is a "Frankendebian" and I'm not surprised that you see the behaviour you are seeing. |
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| 13:35.46 | Pseudo | and after i reboot i came to this consequence |
| 13:35.46 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.com |
| 13:35.46 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 13:35.51 | Slereah | Ah yes |
| 13:35.52 | Slereah | Hm |
| 13:36.01 | Slereah | that would explain it |
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| 13:36.22 | babilen | bbl |
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| 13:36.52 | Slereah | The INSTALL file I'm using does specify debian for "apt-get install --no-install-recommends binutils gcc gcc-4.3 libc6-dev libgomp1 linux-libc-dev make python-dev python2.5-dev zlib1g-dev", though |
| 13:37.01 | Slereah | (it is to install opencaster) |
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| 13:37.47 | babilen | Slereah: Are you using Ubuntu? |
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| 13:38.01 | babilen | (I mean before you started to break your system) |
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| 13:39.05 | Slereah | It is debian |
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| 13:40.42 | mnms_ | Hi. I have 3 routers: A(router, VPN endpoint) -B(router, VPN endpoint, no access here) - C(router, with external and internal interface). RIght now I can ping from router A external interface of router C. I would like to be able to ping internal network of router C. Do I have to add routes on router B ? |
| 13:41.12 | abrotman | ask #networking ? |
| 13:41.27 | mnms_ | ok thanks |
| 13:41.27 | babilen | Slereah: But squeeze? |
| 13:41.43 | babilen | Pseudo: What happens if you add that line back? |
| 13:41.47 | Slereah | Squeeze? |
| 13:42.23 | Slereah | Oh yes |
| 13:42.26 | mnms_ | abrotman: only invited users re welcome there |
| 13:42.35 | Slereah | Version 6.0.6 |
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| 13:43.24 | abrotman | mnms_: You need to register with nickserv |
| 13:43.32 | abrotman | mnms_: ask #freenode how to do this |
| 13:43.53 | babilen | Slereah: That version is rather old and you might be happy to learn that opencaster is available in newer releases such as jessie (which is the current stable release). You could upgrade your box to wheezy and then jessie or reinstall it as jessie. See <squeeze->wheezy> and <wheezy->jessie> respectively -- /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 13:44.00 | mnms_ | abrotman: Im registered |
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| 13:44.16 | abrotman | mnms_: okay, ask #freenode why you can't speak there. Your question has no relation to Debian |
| 13:44.27 | mnms_ | abrotman: Ok thanks for help |
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| 13:44.45 | Slereah | Oh well |
| 13:44.49 | Slereah | Let's update then I suppose |
| 13:44.57 | Slereah | Thanks |
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| 13:46.13 | Slereah | Maybe that's why doing anything on this debian was like pulling teeth :p |
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| 13:48.50 | Pseudo | babilen: that on is got accidentally deleted was smthing like this |
| 13:48.57 | Pseudo | UUID=36062862-7b97-43f7-b896-c3106d9198c2 / ext4 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 13:49.12 | Pseudo | u got deleted it from /etc/fstab |
| 13:49.34 | babilen | Pseudo: That is your root filesystem .. it is rather important. You might want to add that entry back to your fstab. |
| 13:49.35 | Pseudo | my question now will i get back to normal when i add those line back from the tty? |
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| 13:50.09 | babilen | It will definitely massively improve your situation given that you will then have access to the operating system data again |
| 13:50.59 | karlpinc | Pseudo: It's generally best to fix the problems you know you can fix and move forward from there. |
| 13:51.10 | Pseudo | i mistakenly delete it because i see it was an ext4 rw,errors=remount-ro |
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| 13:51.50 | goldkatze | Does anyone have a working ~/.thunderbird/init.d folder, or the Icedove equivalent? |
| 13:52.06 | Pseudo | all right i will started from the /etc/fstab with nano |
| 13:52.22 | Pseudo | by adding those similliar line inside it .. |
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| 13:52.51 | JyZyXEL | oh man, i was able to make NFS bug out in such a way that client was able to mount a filesystem that was not even exported on the server :D |
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| 13:56.08 | ntz | hmm, yet another question please (I left minute ago): is there a way to tell to dpkg (or apt): > do not restart automatically my services on package update you molestatory beast !! < |
| 13:56.45 | shaun413_ | Is it possible to backup my /boot |
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| 13:56.56 | shaun413_ | It's on a flash drive and I hope o don't lose it |
| 13:57.25 | kingkong | what i will lose from my current things if i upgrade from wheezy to jessie? my website server, radio or mail server etc will be effected? |
| 13:57.27 | goldkatze | ntz: maybe using setting lowest prio in dpkg-reconfigure debconf allows you to chose it afterwards? |
| 13:57.59 | goldkatze | shaun413_: Make a copy of the files? |
| 13:58.02 | ntz | goldkatze: btw, that's why other (saner in this) package managers have a ps plugin (telling you what processes you have-to/should reload) |
| 13:58.20 | ntz | eg ``yum ps'' and ``zypper ps'' (those I use the most) |
| 13:59.17 | goldkatze | ntz: Debian has the checkrestart script and others, searching for such services |
| 13:59.30 | teraflops | shaun413_: dd if=/dev/mmblkwhatever of=myboot.raw ... is ok for me |
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| 14:00.09 | shaun413_ | Ok thank |
| 14:00.16 | ntz | goldkatze: that's indeed ultimately molestatory |
| 14:00.27 | goldkatze | ntz: its part of debian-goodies; theres another one doing virtually the same in some package, which might be better; dont recall the name |
| 14:00.37 | teraflops | kingkong: read the upgrade notes, i thinks there is a factoid here |
| 14:00.42 | teraflops | think* |
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| 14:02.02 | goldkatze | ntz: It's, in practise, not an uncommon complaint from users used to centos and similar; however, most propably dont communicate it, they rather get annoyed and leave back to where they came fromâ¦write a bug report. I dunno :) |
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| 14:07.14 | kingkong | teraflops: whats factoid? |
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| 14:08.50 | teraflops | something like (I apologize in advance) |
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| 14:09.05 | teraflops | dpkg: wheezy to jessie |
| 14:09.05 | dpkg | teraflops: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 14:09.09 | teraflops | ^ |
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| 14:12.28 | ppg | hi there, is there anyone that has managed to get raspberry pi with raspbian wheezy working headless( no screen) and exporting the raspberry desktop to a debian wheezy laptop ? |
| 14:13.19 | SynrG | ppg: ask #raspbian? i don't see how this is a debian question |
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| 14:14.04 | kingkong | teraflops: hmm. i dont understand it. should i upgrade or not? its securely without lose www or mail radio servers and user accounts etc? |
| 14:14.38 | SynrG | ppg: also, debian wheezy on a laptop? why not jessie? |
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| 14:15.38 | ppg | SynrG: I believe it to be a bit of both raspian and debian, I have asked in raspbian, I believe that my problem is now a configurational from my laptop, why wheezy ? why not ! |
| 14:15.56 | vagarwal | ppg: do you want something like a serial console into the raspi? |
| 14:16.12 | Walakea | i once started lm-sensors and it caused my display to flicker at low brightness (issue persists even after OS reinstall), can anyone help? |
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| 14:16.37 | Walakea | basically this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=195748 |
| 14:16.45 | humbot | i was with you until you said "exporting the raspberry desktop", why ppg ? |
| 14:17.54 | vagarwal | you can use a raspi debug hat and access raspi's console via your laptop |
| 14:18.04 | ppg | vagarwal: nope the pi have has hdmi, humbot: I don't have a screen with hdmi. |
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| 14:19.00 | ppg | vagarwal: I am logged into my pi via a ethernet cable already |
| 14:19.39 | humbot | i just use ssh to a command line, you can use -X if you want to start a graphical app |
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| 14:19.54 | vagarwal | ppg: are you looking for a vnc server? |
| 14:20.30 | vagarwal | ppg: vnc server is something similar to the windows rdp (if that makes sense) |
| 14:20.31 | SynrG | ppg: what have you done on the debian end of things, what was the expected result, and what happened instead? |
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| 14:21.32 | ppg | vagarwal: I already installed a vnc-server on the pi, and a client on my laptop |
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| 14:23.37 | ThUnD3r|Gr33n | ///msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
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| 14:53.54 | smhar | greetings |
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| 14:57.22 | JyZyXEL | where can i get the debugging symbols for Dolphin? |
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| 15:00.09 | Jutaa | hi |
| 15:00.17 | Jutaa | is there an good ccleaner alternative for linux |
| 15:00.27 | Flashtek | So... Debian didn't support pppoe-server kernel mode, even after a day of fighting it... Gentoo did out of the box... there is a bug raised quite some time ago to get this resolved, but nobody has touched in in two years... |
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| 15:00.56 | dontknow | what package should i install to get "nslookup" "dig" etc? |
| 15:01.10 | nikitasius | bing-outils or something like that |
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| 15:01.40 | olsen | hi there, I'm having this issue with my graphic cards(intel) driver jolting up the CPU to 100% scrolling in a mozilla browser |
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| 15:01.53 | jvdm | dontknow: `apt-file search bin/<command-name>` may help when looking packages providing commands. |
| 15:01.55 | Flashtek | dnsutils for nslookup |
| 15:02.08 | olsen | Filed a bug report some month ago and tried various workarounds but no luck |
| 15:02.40 | Flashtek | dnsutils for dig also |
| 15:02.47 | olsen | posted it to the forums: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=123716 |
| 15:02.58 | awal1 | Flashtek, +1 |
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| 15:03.27 | olsen | and there's a bug report here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799211 |
| 15:03.28 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/799211 in xorg (open): «xorg: Scrolling in browser and evince jolts up CPU usage to 100%»; severity: important; opened: 2015-09-16; last modified: 2015-09-16. |
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| 15:04.01 | awal1 | dontknow, try the use of apt/aptitude search next time |
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| 15:04.36 | olsen | I wasn't able to hunt the bug down with various workarounds as mentioned in the forum |
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| 15:05.06 | nikitasius | Flashtek +1, right |
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| 15:05.25 | olsen | so I thought maybe someone here has a dress for success off the shelf |
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| 15:06.29 | nikitasius | who tried to generate 32kb RSA key pair? |
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| 15:06.39 | nikitasius | how long time it takes? |
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| 15:08.27 | Flashtek | nikitasius: depends on the system |
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| 15:08.40 | JyZyXEL | jessies Dolphin has a deadlock bug |
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| 15:09.34 | nikitasius | Flashtek i need avg time +-. In fact new CPU works pretty fast. |
| 15:10.12 | nikitasius | even openssl, compare how long time i;ve spend to generate dhparam 4096 on P6200 and on i5-5200U - crazy big differ |
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| 15:12.25 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: file a bug |
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| 15:31.53 | awal1 | Is there any package I can use for record (and also interested on maybe broadcast) desktop 1 being in desktop 2? |
| 15:32.56 | hiya | What is maxlogins limit for a user by default in Debian? |
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| 15:34.54 | awal1 | I have tried splitbroadcaster time ago under windows 10 and it can record/broadcast X desktop or X part of that desktop even if I switch to desktop 2, 3... (splitbroadcaster still recording and broadcasting desktop 1 even if I'm in desktop 2). Any similar pack under debian- gnu? |
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| 15:42.34 | hexhaxtron | I'd like to have *all* source packages accessible. I can spare 1 or 2TiB if needed but how should I do this? Should I do 'apt-get source' for every package? Should I look for an FTP repository to mount it locally?... Any ideas? It would be nice to update them on a daily basis too. |
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| 15:47.33 | ZodoTurtle | waves |
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| 15:48.15 | ZodoTurtle | Okay, my problem is launching chrome based browsers crash my dekstop. |
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| 15:48.45 | ZodoTurtle | This was not happening util I updated drivers yesterday. I can provide the list of drivers I updated. |
| 15:48.50 | nkuttler | hexhaxtron: look into buildd |
| 15:49.34 | ZodoTurtle | I wanted to update ONE package and instead updated a massive number of packages. |
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| 15:50.16 | ZodoTurtle | No google-chrome and chromium-browser crash my Desktop when launched. |
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| 15:54.08 | l3archos | hi all. After I ran "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" a few weeks ago I have no sound any more. I did not touch any sound related settings so I am stuck now and have no clue how to debug that. Anyone can help me please? |
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| 15:54.43 | ZodoTurtle | l3archos: you are braver than me. I refuse to ever do dist-upgrade EVER again. |
| 15:54.57 | l3archos | ZodoTurtle: :/ |
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| 15:55.33 | ZodoTurtle | It has gotten so bad. I've been afraid to update anything every. |
| 15:55.51 | ZodoTurtle | In fact, My current issue is because I tried to upgrade one library. |
| 15:55.57 | l3archos | anyone can assist me in troubleshooting my sound issues? BTW: I am on the latest Debian Jessie |
| 15:56.14 | nkuttler | l3archos: do you use pulseaudio? |
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| 15:56.39 | MeatHammer | Hey all. I am trying to access the "network namespaces" mentioned in answer with 5 votes here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68956/block-network-access-of-a-process/68962#68962. When I try to run "ip netns add jail" I get an error "mount --make-shared /var/run/netns failed: No such file or directory". Not sure what im doing wrong... |
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| 15:56.43 | ZodoTurtle | Instead, it upgraded everything and now Launching google-chrome or chromium-browser Crashes me back to the GUI Login screen. BTW, I' |
| 15:56.56 | ZodoTurtle | BTW, I'm using LXDE. As if that makes any difference. |
| 15:57.05 | nkuttler | ZodoTurtle: strace it inside a screen/tmux session |
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| 15:57.20 | nkuttler | ZodoTurtle: oh, and try as a different user first, to make sure it's not your profile |
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| 15:57.53 | ZodoTurtle | BRB. I didn't load this in screen. :( |
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| 15:58.57 | nikitasius | so.. 16kb RSA keys takes 19min in gnupg2, nice |
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| 15:59.09 | mtn | l3archos: have you tried using pavucontrol and looking at sound levels and devices in your output and configurations tabs? |
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| 15:59.48 | ZodoTurtle | I don't know HOW to strace |
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| 16:00.23 | ZodoTurtle | Oh, required installing it. |
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| 16:02.45 | MeatHammer | oh ffs |
| 16:02.50 | MeatHammer | NEVERMIND EVERYONE |
| 16:03.00 | MeatHammer | "sudo" |
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| 16:04.15 | l3archos | nkuttler: I think so :) mtn: pavucontrol is new to me but to answer your question: I did check volume settings everything fine. When I try "aplay /usr/share/sounds/foo.wav" it seems normal, no error message. It looks like it plays the sound but I do not hear anything. I also checked hotkey settings MUTE/UNMUTE on my notebook. Nothing :( |
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| 16:04.37 | mtn | l3archos: what about the devices section? |
| 16:04.49 | l3archos | the volume control is there and I can move it. mtn: devices section ? what you m ean? how do I check that? |
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| 16:05.12 | mtn | l3archos: it is an obvious section on the screen. it has a down tab next to it |
| 16:05.34 | l3archos | mtn: "lspci |egrep 'snd|sound'" or "lsusb |egrep 'snd|sound'" did not return anything |
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| 16:06.41 | ZodoTurtle | Wow, Um, so I have a screen full of, I don't know what most any of this means. Kept seeing FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, and occassional (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 16:07.56 | grawity | strace isn't exactly the tool to debug crashes tbh |
| 16:07.59 | MeatHammer | if I launch a process using ip netns and have to use sudo, is that exec running as sudo as well? How do I prevent this? How can a regular user use a network namespace? |
| 16:08.37 | grawity | yes it is |
| 16:08.43 | grawity | you sudo back to your user |
| 16:08.46 | grawity | they can't |
| 16:08.58 | grawity | although, they probably could if 'user namespaces' were enabled |
| 16:09.00 | mtn | l3archos: if you truly have no sound devices now, it is either a hardware problem or you are using a different kernel |
| 16:09.04 | ZodoTurtle | Not the user. Just created a new one and ran google-chrome. Instant crash. |
| 16:09.05 | grawity | but otherwise it's a root-only feature |
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| 16:09.20 | MeatHammer | grawity: can I enable user namespaces or something? |
| 16:09.30 | MeatHammer | hrmmm thats unfortunate |
| 16:10.14 | MeatHammer | what is the easiest way to firewall on a per app/process basis? |
| 16:10.15 | l3archos | mtn: I do not believe my sound devices are gone :) as I am using a notebook and the sound card works fine on Windows because this is a dual-boot computer |
| 16:10.42 | ZodoTurtle | Did I mention my initrd updated before I started having problems? Part of the massive update set. |
| 16:10.51 | mtn | l3archos: are you sure you did not change kernels? and what about the devices section? |
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| 16:11.27 | ZodoTurtle | I hate updates, I don't care if it is Windows, Linux, or Mac (I've never used Mac). Updates break things that were working fine. |
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| 16:11.52 | mtn | ZodoTurtle: updates in stable do not break things. |
| 16:11.53 | l3archos | mtn: it is possible that kernel changed. How can I ensure it's kernel related issue because a newer kernel does not support my hardware anymore? |
| 16:12.13 | MeatHammer | how does one roll back to the previous kernel after an upgrade? |
| 16:12.28 | ZodoTurtle | mtn: I am IN stable. Only stable way to update is to completely replace the OS. |
| 16:12.30 | mtn | MeatHammer: choose the older kernel in the grub menu |
| 16:12.49 | MeatHammer | mtn: is that advaced options? |
| 16:12.49 | mtn | ZodoTurtle: stable has updates frequently |
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| 16:12.55 | l3archos | mtn: I'll do a reboot and try the older kernel ... brb |
| 16:12.57 | mtn | MeatHammer: yes |
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| 16:13.04 | MeatHammer | wow thats amazing |
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| 16:14.00 | ZodoTurtle | mtn: And I have had updates break while using stable. I care not what version, of what OS. All my experience has resulted in occassional breakage during updates. Some of those breaks can be critical. Losing the most widely supported browser is critical. |
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| 16:14.19 | ZodoTurtle | I can no longer use this system in the manor it was intended. Because of an update. |
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| 16:14.29 | MeatHammer | grawity: is there an easy way to firewall on a per app/process basis? |
| 16:14.35 | mtn | ZodoTurtle: I have never had debian stable break on an upgrade. in 15 years |
| 16:15.01 | mtn | ZodoTurtle: I am sure you can break it if you try, but not if you use it as intended ;) |
| 16:15.17 | MeatHammer | lubuntu and ubuntu definately break. |
| 16:15.21 | ZodoTurtle | mtn: And I have had it break repeatedly. Even debian. The most stable of all the OS's I have ever used. Breaks with nearly every attempt to update. |
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| 16:16.06 | mtn | ZodoTurtle: nonsense. I bet you have added repos or ppas. that is not how debian is meant to be used. if you need help with a problem, please ask for help with it. |
| 16:16.07 | zerodrama | how do I make debian mount USB drives as user (via Device Notifier in KDE) |
| 16:16.56 | ZodoTurtle | mtn: this is my ONLY active sources.list line: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
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| 16:18.16 | ZodoTurtle | Every single other line in that file has been commented out. And even the others are from the original debian install. I don't add repos. |
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| 16:20.19 | ZodoTurtle | mtn: I don't even trust my old /home/zodo to be functional after I upgrade my distro. I've had trailing hidden .config items break newer versions of debian, from older versions of debian. |
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| 16:22.47 | ZodoTurtle | I have installed an hand full of packages, such as Teamspeak and google-chrome via dpkg. Which you can't install any other way. This excludes ANYTHING I know to be Microsoft related, such as Skype. |
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| 16:24.19 | ZodoTurtle | Okay, none of this fixes my problem. How do I rollback all these package upgrades? I can easily see and list them. How do I roll them back? I want my system working again. I don't care if somethings aren't up to date. Up to date means Broken! |
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| 16:27.01 | ZodoTurtle | mtn: I don't even install Oracle's java. |
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| 16:30.26 | ZodoTurtle | Based on this, I'm screwed again: Sadly this is not something that either dpkg or apt is able to do. Debian packages aren't really meant to be downgraded and it isn't supported or tested. There certainly is no snapshotting support. |
| 16:30.51 | cuqa_ | hello, in wheezy why do I not find an upgrade for eglibc, but for libc6? |
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| 16:31.01 | cuqa_ | s/wheezy/squeeze |
| 16:31.17 | markybob | cuqa_: because the package for eglibc is called libc6 |
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| 16:33.34 | ZodoTurtle | LOL, 154 packages upgraded. No wonder SOMETHING had to go wrong. Even with stable. |
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| 16:34.05 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: you said wheezy before. now you say stable. |
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| 16:34.20 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: see..the things you say aren't making a lot of sense. |
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| 16:35.12 | ZodoTurtle | markybob: funny. At one point in time. wheezy was considered STABLE. did it magically become unstable? |
| 16:35.28 | ZodoTurtle | And yes. This is wheezy because I refuse to dist-upgrade |
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| 16:35.44 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: it's oldstable. jessie is stable. |
| 16:36.03 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: how you allowed wheezy to get that outdated is amazing |
| 16:36.30 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: specially since you clain that it breaks every time you update. so you must update often |
| 16:36.34 | markybob | claim* |
| 16:36.45 | ZodoTurtle | markybob: No it isn't. If you had as much trouble with ever update as I have. and really like your system to continue as it is. You would do the same. |
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| 16:37.22 | ZodoTurtle | Ah, no!. Yes, it breaks most everytime I update, because I now refuse to update often enough to have that magical one break in 20 catch me off guard. |
| 16:37.51 | ZodoTurtle | Pardon me if I like my computer to NOT be like windows and magically break! |
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| 16:38.39 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: you're the only one complaining. stable is rock stable for all of us. you're doing something wrong. like you said you commented things out in sources.list. so you obviouslly added something there previously. damage done. |
| 16:38.40 | ZodoTurtle | When my system breaks. I know it is because I chose to attempt an update of some form. Otherwise, it would still be working just like it was Yesterday. |
| 16:38.50 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: Keep in mind that there are a whole lot of people who have done this without any problems, it's not a common error. |
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| 16:39.26 | ZodoTurtle | jhutchins: You've nailed it. I somehow tend to find uncommon errors. |
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| 16:39.51 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: That would make you a valuable troubleshooting resource. |
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| 16:40.32 | ZodoTurtle | jhutchins: I've stated that for years. Again, this is why I tend to go with the most stable I can find and avoid Updates to prevent failures. |
| 16:41.28 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: So, anyway, it's not a general problem with updates, it's your particular combination of packages (and possibly hardware). Can we get down to specifics of what's not working? |
| 16:41.32 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
| 16:41.38 | ZodoTurtle | jhutchins: If I were to get paid for my failures, I wouldn't mind. I could just keep a system to the side that isn't broken. Or always FULLY prepared for the break with a complete drive copy prior to the shatter. |
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| 16:43.15 | ZodoTurtle | jhutchins: http://paste.debian.net/402602/ |
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| 16:43.53 | ZodoTurtle | And now google-chrome crashes my desktop to the X Login. |
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| 16:45.02 | single-girl | hi |
| 16:45.03 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: How about iceweasel? |
| 16:45.09 | legionCyber | All - Regarding the recently announced Glibc vulnerability, it clearly affects DNS client-side resolver, but are Linux DNS servers also vulnerable because of the bug in Glibc? |
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| 16:45.14 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: Did you say you tried with a new, clean user? |
| 16:45.19 | ZodoTurtle | Same happens with chromium-browser. After I installed it to test it out. Happens with a fresh user as well. iceweasel works fine. |
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| 16:46.11 | xVim | I use byzanz-record from the Debian repositories and have a question: How do I toggle a boolean flag when invoking it (in my case the -c flag, which is set by default)? Manpage does not help me: http://linux.die.net/man/1/byzanz-record |
| 16:46.11 | ZodoTurtle | Well, as fin as iceweasel works. |
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| 16:47.01 | xVim | I tried stuff like -c false, -c NONE to no avail. |
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| 16:48.31 | ZodoTurtle | Twitch.tv doesn't work with Iceweasel. So, it won't fullfill my purposes. |
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| 16:51.35 | MeatHammer | grawity: is there any drawback to defining an alternate network namespace at boot? |
| 16:51.50 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle:,v dbus-X11 |
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| 16:52.00 | hiya | even if create a user with "/bin/false" as shell |
| 16:52.01 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: Sorry, please ignore. |
| 16:52.08 | jhutchins | ,v dbus-X11 |
| 16:52.09 | judd | No package named 'dbus-X11' was found in amd64. |
| 16:52.09 | hiya | Can it allow login? |
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| 16:52.57 | ZodoTurtle | jhutchins: Are you still trying to help me? or is mine too much trouble? (Not complaining, just need to take a shower and head to work.) |
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| 16:54.52 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: I would say that since you're specifically having trouble with chrome, and chrome may be relying on more current libraries, you should try upgrading to jessie and see if that solves the problem. Alternatively, if you have reasons for staying with wheezy, try an alternate boot partition for jessie. |
| 16:55.14 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: I presume you've reinstalled both packages? |
| 16:55.32 | cra1g321 | i thought google dropped support for wheezy ? |
| 16:55.46 | ZodoTurtle | Not chromium. but Chrome, I reinstalled twice. |
| 16:56.05 | ZodoTurtle | cra1g321: Then maybe I need to reinstall the old deb file I have. |
| 16:56.20 | cra1g321 | why use a vulnerable old version of chrome ? |
| 16:56.58 | ZodoTurtle | I can't upgrade my OS without fear of completely unsuable computer. |
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| 16:57.31 | ZodoTurtle | I only have limited space SSD. So, I don't have room for alternate partition install. |
| 16:57.43 | cra1g321 | do backup of important data, then fresh install of jessie |
| 16:57.49 | r6ku | ^ |
| 16:58.04 | cra1g321 | if things work with wheezy i dont see you running into issue with jessie |
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| 16:58.27 | ZodoTurtle | I simply can't upgrade without getting a HDD, and I might as well just replace the entire system if I'm going to bother with a fresh OS install. Gonna lose all my settings anyway. |
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| 16:59.14 | ZodoTurtle | This system alreayd has other major issues. If I look at it cross eyed, it randomly reboots. <-- not quite serious. |
| 16:59.36 | ZodoTurtle | Seriously, I have given electric shock to desk NEAR the computer and it reboot! |
| 16:59.46 | Fatar | hello I only have 196ko in my ~ directory wat do? |
| 16:59.51 | ZodoTurtle | My toe touched the desk. |
| 16:59.56 | ZodoTurtle | I hate AMD! |
| 17:00.21 | Durbinator | Whoops. Can anyone PM me the default sources.list file for Jessie? |
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| 17:00.37 | Durbinator | i may have just had an accident, lol |
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| 17:01.13 | cra1g321 | Durbinator, https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 17:01.39 | Durbinator | cra1g321: cheers |
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| 17:03.59 | ZodoTurtle | Well, since this is a paperweight. I'm goitn to turn it off. |
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| 17:13.43 | Inpetto | Hi i am getting a simulair error like this in my apt-install gtk3.0 : Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you asked a impossible situation, or, if you used the ' unstable ' distribution that some required packages still need to be made or removed from ' Incoming '. |
| 17:13.44 | Inpetto | The following information may perhaps help to resolve the situation, anyone can tell me how to fix this? |
| 17:13.45 | ksk | Hola. Im trying to compile some older C software, and configure says: "checking for dlopen in -ldl... no" -- however I have package libc6-dev installed. what am I missing? thanks! |
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| 17:17.24 | jim | ksk, does the software you'[re building have a package in debian? |
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| 17:19.01 | ksk | nope. |
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| 17:21.49 | jim | ksk, then you're going to have to look through it, finding all the "free" symbols (for example names of functions that are left for other libs) and make sure each resolves to an existing lib |
| 17:23.03 | jim | you may also have to alter the source of what you have to accomodate the lib (and function, var or whathaveyou) |
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| 17:24.26 | jim | given the info so far, I wouldn't be able to give specifics |
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| 17:25.03 | ksk | that clearifies a lot of the questions in my had, thanks for the detailed answer! |
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| 17:25.47 | Inpetto | anyone can tell me something about this error : http://pastebin.com/erdDiBTb |
| 17:26.22 | markybob | Inpetto: you used incoming and unstable? wow |
| 17:26.37 | ksk | even wonders what incoming is |
| 17:26.44 | markybob | Inpetto: anyway, unstable support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 17:27.00 | cra1g321 | "i'm using unstable and er... things are unstable" lol |
| 17:27.05 | markybob | !incoming |
| 17:27.06 | dpkg | [incoming] to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable (see <break>) but can be obtained from http://incoming.debian.org/ (but not ftp), or http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/resources.html#incoming-system |
| 17:27.08 | Inpetto | yes already asked there but no rspns |
| 17:27.16 | jim | ksk, sorry I wasn't able to give one |
| 17:27.21 | markybob | Inpetto: it's still off topic here and there is no support here |
| 17:27.26 | Inpetto | ok |
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| 17:27.38 | trewas | ksk: you can check in config.log what it is actually trying to compile, it sometimes helps pointing out what is wrong |
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| 17:49.15 | User_Unknwn | Hi, I have a VPS running debian, and I'm having a little problem installing mpd with the required libraries for what I need to do |
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| 17:50.17 | User_Unknwn | I'm following this guide https://www.reddit.com/r/mumblecop/comments/3ff7jx/mpd_and_other_dependencies_installation_guide/, since I need to use it for mumblecop, but when I need to install the dependencies, I can't locate a few packages |
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| 17:50.51 | User_Unknwn | Nvm, found the problem |
| 17:51.05 | ksk | User_Unknwn: building from source is always tricky. is there a reason you dont use the mpd package from debian? :) |
| 17:51.29 | User_Unknwn | I don't need all the required dependencies (like the client or the graphical stuff) |
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| 17:52.22 | User_Unknwn | however, I got why it happens. just reads the name wrong since the space before the \ is missing |
| 17:52.31 | ksk | :) |
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| 17:53.36 | TomTomTosch | why should it depend on a gui? i don't think that's true. |
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| 17:54.35 | TomTomTosch | there is only the ncurses thing. |
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| 17:54.59 | User_Unknwn | when i run sudo apt-get install mpd in the dependencies I found some libgl stuff and something related to x |
| 17:55.12 | User_Unknwn | Which of course isn't installed here since this is an headless server |
| 17:56.34 | User_Unknwn | anyway, changed the formatting of the command and it worked |
| 17:56.40 | markybob | User_Unknwn: apt-cache show mpd does not agree with you |
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| 17:57.23 | TomTomTosch | that's not libgl but lib_glib :P |
| 17:57.24 | User_Unknwn | maybe it was another package then. I did it yesterday at 1 am and packages started to blend together after the 10th install with 40+ packages |
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| 17:57.55 | User_Unknwn | and I had to build a few things from source |
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| 17:58.21 | TomTomTosch | you should probably install mpd from the repo ;D |
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| 18:00.10 | User_Unknwn | unfortunately it's outdated for my use, so I can't do it anyway |
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| 18:01.30 | Harm133 | Hey guys, I just had a problem with a debian box ( 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux ). I couldnt connect to it from SSH, I could ping it and it did do its job ( being a DHCP server ) but I simply couldn't connect to ssh. I then went to the terminal within its host ( its a VM ). and when I logged in locally I could also log into it from SSH. Any |
| 18:01.30 | Harm133 | ideas ? |
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| 18:02.27 | TomTomTosch | User_Unknwn, jessie-backports hast the current 0.19.12 release. but do what you feel like. |
| 18:02.29 | markybob | User_Unknwn: jessie has 0.19.12. |
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| 18:02.41 | TomTomTosch | first :P |
| 18:02.57 | markybob | TomTomTosch: screw you on i'm a cell phone connection via tethering ;) |
| 18:03.11 | User_Unknwn | IIRC this is not on jessie. It wasn't available from the host when I got the VPS |
| 18:03.24 | User_Unknwn | It's still on wheezy |
| 18:03.27 | markybob | User_Unknwn: lsb_release -a |
| 18:03.43 | User_Unknwn | just checked, still wheezy |
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| 18:04.02 | markybob | User_Unknwn: you can still use ssb to get it from jessie or testing or sid to be packaged to wheezy |
| 18:04.28 | User_Unknwn | well, I already started building from source, so I think I'll keep it that way |
| 18:04.56 | User_Unknwn | it's not a huge issue, I just needed to find why I couldn't install those libraries |
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| 18:07.52 | TomTomTosch | markybob, never quit fighting the good fight :P |
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| 18:34.19 | SuperNull | where is an ideal space to add to PATH env for all users ? |
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| 18:35.00 | MeatHammer | SuperNull: I use .xsessionrc |
| 18:35.09 | SuperNull | uhm. |
| 18:35.12 | SuperNull | no. |
| 18:35.16 | markybob | SuperNull: /etc/profile |
| 18:35.18 | MeatHammer | ohhh ALL users |
| 18:35.21 | SuperNull | i mean is /etc/bash.bashrc okay ? |
| 18:35.22 | SuperNull | ok |
| 18:35.34 | SuperNull | profile is good |
| 18:35.36 | SuperNull | <3 |
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| 18:45.53 | SuperNull | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.43 | markybob | SuperNull: correct |
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| 19:04.36 | karlpinc | SuperNull: Ideally, /etc/profile.d/mypathfrob But that's only for born shells. You'd need someplace else for korn shells. |
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| 19:11.25 | ZodoTurtle | My boss has the same opinion. This system is Debian 7.5 and has an uptime or 83 days. That was likely when we moved over to this office. |
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| 19:11.41 | ZodoTurtle | This system is still running because I have NOT done updates. |
| 19:13.16 | ZodoTurtle | Boss over heard me complaining about my computer not working and came to make sure it wasn't this one. I said, nope, this one is running because I didn't do what I did at home. He responded "You updated!" and shook his head. |
| 19:13.34 | truewinner_ | SG1|Hereish is spamming at #uncyclopedia help! |
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| 19:15.03 | dondelelcaro | ZodoTurtle: what's the problem? |
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| 19:16.59 | ZodoTurtle | dondelelcaro: Don't bother. I'm no longer trying to fix it. I completely disconnected the PC, carried it downstairs and set it in a corner. |
| 19:19.30 | ZodoTurtle | It is running wheezy, is now up to date on all the packages. Crashes the Desktop back to Login screen when google-chrome is started. |
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| 19:19.53 | ZodoTurtle | BTW, that shouldn't be possible. Why can an app crash X back to Login? |
| 19:19.53 | dondelelcaro | ZodoTurtle: is this the Debian packaged chromium? |
| 19:20.15 | dondelelcaro | ZodoTurtle: it's actually not that hard; if it writes to and corrupts the video card using Xv or similar, you can get that |
| 19:20.15 | ZodoTurtle | dondelelcaro: No, and it wouldn't matter. That one does it too. |
| 19:21.38 | dondelelcaro | ZodoTurtle: well, it could matter because the libraries that they were compiled against would potentially be different versions |
| 19:22.27 | dondelelcaro | (or indeed, entirely different codebases depending on precisely how google-chrome is packaged) |
| 19:22.31 | ZodoTurtle | yeah, well. I didn't try chromium-browser. Which is the package name under wheezy. Yes, it later became chromium |
| 19:22.43 | ZodoTurtle | Dang it. |
| 19:22.44 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: You're being pretty silly. Lots of people, thousands, run Wheezy and update regularly, many have also updated from wheezy to jessie without any trouble. |
| 19:22.47 | ZodoTurtle | I DID try! |
| 19:22.48 | jhutchins | ZodoTurtle: You're special. |
| 19:23.28 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: this was silly a few hours ago when you first mentioned it and now you're just coming to bitch for no reason when you've already retired the machine. what's the point? |
| 19:23.59 | dondelelcaro | no need to dog-pile; lets either work the problem or let it drop |
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| 19:24.18 | markybob | dondelelcaro: there's no problem to work. it's retired. |
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| 19:25.28 | ZodoTurtle | The problem is already solved. I need to do a fresh install. I can't do that without more drive space. I can't do that without buying a drive. So, it is retired until I return home. I moved out today because She don't want my ANGER in her home. I don't expect to be HAPPY for several weeks to a few months. |
| 19:25.35 | TomTomTo1 | also chrome is third-party. not shocking it's not stable. |
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| 19:26.08 | ZodoTurtle | chromium is part of the stable package and does not work. |
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| 19:26.16 | TomTomTo1 | also, #debian-offtopic is for ranting :P |
| 19:26.24 | TomTomTo1 | chromium is stable for me. |
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| 19:26.43 | TomTomTo1 | used wheezy for a long time, neer had problems. |
| 19:26.56 | ZodoTurtle | I only came back to state the fact this OLD box is still running because I don't update. |
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| 19:27.34 | ZodoTurtle | Only way I can successfully update is Fresh installs. And I don't have time for that right now. |
| 19:27.49 | TomTomTo1 | </topic> |
| 19:27.52 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: thanks for the update. btw...not updating a box is really stupid from a security point of view. but whatever you think/want |
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| 20:06.57 | newbie82 | synrg, i found the problem with the greek characters! |
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| 20:07.19 | CarlFK | web server box, so exposed - what should I do? sudo apt-get update ... W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 7638D0442B90D010 |
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| 20:08.01 | newbie82 | i had to uncomment in /etc/locale.gen the el.UTF8.... run locale-gen, log out and everything appears fine now |
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| 20:08.31 | newbie82 | i don't know if you can see the chars : άÎÎ¯Ï |
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| 20:08.52 | grawity | looks okay â |
| 20:08.59 | newbie82 | ok thanx:) |
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| 20:09.14 | grawity | tbh, *any* .UTF8 locale would have worked |
| 20:09.34 | markybob | CarlFK: pastebine your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:09.39 | greycat | And the debian way to configure which locales you have available is "dpkg-reconfigure locales". |
| 20:10.12 | karlpinc | CarlFK: Are you using crunchbang? |
| 20:10.16 | CarlFK | markybob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15173684/ sources.list |
| 20:11.12 | markybob | CarlFK: that looks good. you should try to see if there's an upgrade for debian-keyring |
| 20:12.34 | CarlFK | markybob: doesn't that mean I am getting keys from an untrusted source? |
| 20:13.07 | markybob | CarlFK: technically. but if the key changed you don't have a choice |
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| 20:14.39 | CarlFK | markybob: k - not the end of the world if I have to rebuild this box - thanks for looking |
| 20:15.10 | markybob | CarlFK: if you're going to do that consider using jessie and not wheezy again |
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| 20:16.00 | semiautomagic | hi, anyone here using latex a lot? |
| 20:16.49 | SynrG | newbie82: Great |
| 20:16.56 | TomTomTo1 | giggles |
| 20:17.27 | SynrG | Strange it should require the locale to be generated, though |
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| 20:17.49 | SynrG | A KDE specific quirk? |
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| 20:19.12 | SynrG | I certainly don't have the Greek locale generated on my system where everything worked fine with the Greek keyboard layout and display of Greek fonts. |
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| 20:33.59 | Harm133 | Hey guys, I just had a problem with a debian box ( 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux ). I couldnt connect to it from SSH, I could ping it and it did do its job ( being a DHCP server ) but I simply couldn't connect to ssh. I then went to the terminal within its host ( its a VM ). and when I logged in locally I could also log into it from SSH. Any |
| 20:33.59 | Harm133 | ideas ? |
| 20:34.34 | greycat | Was the last bit supposed to say "locally I couldn't also log into it from SSH"? If so, it sounds like you just need to install openssh-server. |
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| 20:35.27 | Harm133 | all connections from ssh were local |
| 20:35.34 | greycat | Is openssh-server installed? |
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| 20:37.05 | Harm133 | yes, openssh is installed |
| 20:37.16 | greycat | openssh-server |
| 20:37.31 | Harm133 | yes, sorry openssh-server is installed |
| 20:37.54 | greycat | What happens when you try to ssh to it from another machine? |
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| 20:38.38 | Harm133 | Couldnt connect from 3 different machines |
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| 20:38.45 | Harm133 | which are all working atm |
| 20:38.52 | greycat | What *happens*? Do you get an error? Does it just hang? |
| 20:39.09 | Harm133 | instant connection refused, cannot find anything in the auth logs tho |
| 20:39.33 | Harm133 | I also can't reproduce it, and have never seen it before |
| 20:39.50 | greycat | Connection refused from outside, while "ssh localhost" works on the host itself, probably means some sort of firewall. Or you've configured sshd to listen only on loopback, which I think you would have remembered doing. |
| 20:39.52 | Harm133 | I really just want to find out where it went wrong and what I can do to fix it for another tiome |
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| 20:40.37 | Harm133 | I didnt ssh localhost, I logged into its "physical" terminal from the VMware host, after that the SSH started workign instantly |
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| 20:40.51 | greycat | Then I'm calling it a VM problem. |
| 20:41.25 | Harm133 | just SSH specifically tho ? I was getting IP adresses from it and can ping it without any problems |
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| 20:41.53 | greycat | Ping uses ICMP, and DHCP uses deep dark voodoo of some kind I don't even pretend to understand. |
| 20:42.12 | Harm133 | haha |
| 20:43.19 | teraflops | Harm133: is it a VM? |
| 20:43.37 | Harm133 | Yes |
| 20:43.43 | greycat | 15:33 Harm133> Hey guys, [...] ( its a VM ). [...] |
| 20:44.07 | teraflops | srry |
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| 20:44.14 | Harm133 | its host is ESXi, opposed to HyperV ( which I personally know to have some networking issues ) |
| 20:44.22 | AvocetVIS | has anyone here used Tanglu? |
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| 20:44.35 | jhutchins | Harm133: If you log in on a VM console that's not ssh. |
| 20:45.18 | markybob | AvocetVIS: tanglu is offtopic |
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| 20:45.18 | Harm133 | jhutchins: Thats what I said, I logged into the terminal. I never said I SSH'd into it locally |
| 20:45.18 | greycat | I think he's saying "a> ssh b failed until I connected to the VM's console, then a> ssh b magically started working" |
| 20:45.18 | teraflops | Harm133: did you say what OS run the host? |
| 20:45.24 | greycat | where b is the VM |
| 20:45.45 | Harm133 | ESXi is the host of the VM |
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| 20:45.58 | Harm133 | and what greycat said is indeed the case |
| 20:45.59 | markybob | vmware vsphere does have a firewall builtin |
| 20:46.33 | markybob | i don't remember if it blocks ssh by default |
| 20:47.09 | Harm133 | I've ran this particular VM for over a year ( among other debian vms ), without any issues. |
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| 20:48.11 | Harm133 | I don't really believe its a problem with a firewall withing the host |
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| 20:49.11 | Inpetto | what to do when getting ; ** (gnome-settings-daemon:7889): WARNING **: Unable to initialize GTK+ ? |
| 20:49.38 | markybob | Inpetto: aren't you the one using incoming and unstable? |
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| 20:50.08 | Inpetto | yes, |
| 20:50.20 | markybob | Inpetto: so like i told you before, you're asking in the wrong place |
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| 20:50.41 | Inpetto | Ok, sorry, |
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| 20:54.47 | nadu | hi |
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| 20:56.32 | nadu | can anybody help with time problems? |
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| 20:57.00 | TomTomTo1 | time is money and money i don't have. |
| 20:57.01 | TomTomTo1 | !ask |
| 20:57.01 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 20:57.10 | nadu | I have a server that loses the correct time. I use systemd-timesync. I already logged the status of this deamon to a file hourly. It seems to be working correclty. After powering the server off and on again systemd-timesync recovers the last time from /var/lib/systemd/clock |
| 20:57.41 | nadu | I'm running jessie on a raspberry pi 2 (sojerds image) |
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| 20:58.57 | TomTomTo1 | the rpi does not have a rtc afaik. but i think there are other channels to ask. |
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| 20:59.41 | nadu | It doesn't but afaik systemd-timesync is software based |
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| 21:01.02 | nadu | which channels do you recommend? as I'm using a debian stable installation, I though this is the right place to ask :) |
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| 21:01.28 | TomTomTo1 | if it's not raspbian then yes :D |
| 21:01.31 | markybob | nadu: no you're really not. sjoerd uses packages from experimental |
| 21:02.06 | TomTomTo1 | ah, i didn't catch that. |
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| 21:03.28 | koldus | Hello guys, i'm running debian testing, tried to install bumblebee + Nvidia driver (can't make it work with nouveau) i can successfully run an application with optirun. although after i close the application the video card remains enabled. I tried to manually shut it down (sudo tee /proc/acpi/bbswitch <<< OFF) but i can't (trought dmesg: bbswitch: device 0000:01:00.0 is in use by driver 'nvidia', refusing OFF) |
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| 21:03.37 | koldus | what should i do? |
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| 21:03.52 | markybob | koldus: testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
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| 21:04.04 | koldus | ok! |
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| 21:04.59 | nadu | markybob: afaik the kernel packages is built from experimental, but anything else is stable |
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| 21:06.36 | edgo | hi , someone familiar here with lxc containers on debian jessie ? i'm stuck with cgconfig.conf, already searched a bit without luck, error is still " |
| 21:06.40 | edgo | /usr/sbin/cgconfigparser; error loading /etc/cgconfig.conf: Have multiple paths for the same namespace |
| 21:06.42 | edgo | " |
| 21:06.51 | nadu | if I'm wrong here, where would I be right with that problem :) |
| 21:07.14 | markybob | nadu: i told you. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:07.29 | markybob | nadu: damnit, sorry. didn't mean to say that to you |
| 21:08.10 | markybob | nadu: there is #debian-arm on OFTC. might be better |
| 21:08.27 | nadu | thanks. I'll check |
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| 21:11.09 | egrain | how do i remove sid from the repositories? |
| 21:11.41 | greycat | Removing sid *sources* will not cause the removal of any already-installed sid *packages*. |
| 21:11.44 | markybob | egrain: the damange is done. there is no downgrading. anyway you manage repositories by nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update |
| 21:11.47 | egrain | i know. |
| 21:12.09 | markybob | how does someone who doesn't know how to edit sources get sid...that's what i'm wondering |
| 21:12.25 | egrain | not my server. i'm just fixing things. was here a few days ago. |
| 21:12.36 | TomTomTo1 | markybob, shitty tutorials |
| 21:12.36 | egrain | now convinced them to drop sid, go stable, and let me do it. |
| 21:12.49 | axc1298 | unstable on a server? |
| 21:12.51 | egrain | also there is only openssh and openssl from sid on there. at least according to the log. |
| 21:12.59 | markybob | egrain: you can't go from sid to stable |
| 21:13.00 | greycat | If they mixed jessie + sid already, then you can't get it back to pure jessie without reinstalling. |
| 21:13.18 | markybob | egrain: it's done. you should start over |
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| 21:15.03 | egrain | well, i can't reinstall. |
| 21:15.13 | markybob | egrain: you also can't go back to stable |
| 21:15.40 | ompaul | what does the sources file looking |
| 21:15.43 | egrain | only if i haven't installed packages from sid. and as i said only openssl and openssh were installed from there. |
| 21:15.44 | ompaul | what does the sources file look look |
| 21:15.55 | ompaul | look like |
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| 21:16.27 | ompaul | egrain: apt-cache policy pasted into http://paste.debian.net might be helpful |
| 21:16.30 | quantic | egrain: You're asking HOW to remove sid from sources, but you're arguing about the mechanics of it when given the answer? |
| 21:16.30 | markybob | egrain: that's a big deal. that's your server security. it affects everything from ssh to apache. |
| 21:16.55 | quantic | egrain: Be a responsible administrator and recommend a rebuild. |
| 21:17.03 | egrain | i did. |
| 21:17.12 | egrain | i'm glad they agreed not to use sid anymore. |
| 21:17.15 | egrain | baby steps! |
| 21:17.39 | quantic | egrain: You've been given your answer what needs to be done to get the system back a proper state. It needs a rebuild. Have fun. |
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| 21:18.03 | egrain | quantic, i guess i have upset you. i apologize. |
| 21:18.17 | axc1298 | egrain: if only those two pieces of software were installed from sid, then your friend must never have done an apt-get upgrade after updating the sources. in that case i don't see why you couldn't just purge those two packages, remove sid from sources.list, apt-get update and re-install the stable versions. |
| 21:18.22 | markybob | egrain: the thing is, you're still using sid. even if you remove it from sources.list |
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| 21:18.38 | quantic | egrain: Not really. Arguing that "you can't" doesn't help us or you. That's your singular solution. The illusion of choice is still an illusion. |
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| 21:19.01 | greycat | I'd be extremely surprised if you can just purge openssh/openssl from sid and discover that libc6 is still jessie's. |
| 21:19.19 | quantic | Yeah, good luck purging openssl. |
| 21:19.25 | markybob | yeah, that's nonsense |
| 21:19.26 | axc1298 | greycat: didn't consider that |
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| 21:20.33 | quantic | egrain: I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I'm really not. But you don't have a choice, if you care about security or stability. |
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| 21:21.30 | egrain | quantic, don't worry about it. i'm just the messenger here anyway. first thing i suggested was: i'll redo everything for you. you don't have to anything. and their reply: no! |
| 21:21.55 | quantic | egrain: Essentially we're telling you what you need to tell them. This has to be rebuild. There is no other way. |
| 21:22.09 | egrain | i know. |
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| 21:22.52 | egrain | anyway, i told them. nothing more i can do. not my server. not my responsibility. anyway, thanks a bunch to you guys again. |
| 21:23.01 | quantic | egrain: And if TPTB don't accept that... I wouldn't work there. |
| 21:23.12 | egrain | tptb? |
| 21:23.18 | quantic | The Powers That Be. |
| 21:23.28 | egrain | non believer. |
| 21:23.32 | egrain | unemployed. |
| 21:23.37 | egrain | i'm fine. |
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| 21:23.41 | quantic | Then yeah, not your problem. :P |
| 21:23.59 | egrain | well, i'm just a nice guy like that. i see things that need fixing, so i fix them. |
| 21:24.01 | egrain | well, i try. |
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| 21:24.16 | egrain | enough of that though. thanks again. |
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| 21:26.19 | cuqa_ | hey, if you have 32 GB of RAM and you use 16 GB in active memory and almost nothing in cache, swap and inactive memory.. is this near oom_killer already? |
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| 21:26.57 | greycat | It means you have way more RAM than you actually need. |
| 21:27.19 | greycat | Which is far better than the reverse. |
| 21:28.15 | nottakennick | strange that make-pkg complies a kernel from a source package correctly, but when i (cleanly apply) a patch that came with that kernel source package, there's a compilation error |
| 21:29.33 | nottakennick | i assumed if I'd made no changes that i could build an identical kernel by extracting the source package, applying the patch, using the old config and building from there |
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| 21:30.34 | nottakennick | which seemed like what i needed to make sure i could do first, before altering the kernel config and building my variant. |
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| 21:31.40 | okee | Is there a limitation on how many pdfs you can combine with pdfunite? |
| 21:32.18 | nottakennick | actually hmmm if my config was for the patched kernel, then it wouldn't be asking me questions about new config options because it should have them all already |
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| 21:33.05 | markybob | nottakennick: i assume you meant make deb-pkg? also why don't you just follow the kernel handbook? |
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| 21:33.23 | cuqa_ | greycat, so if you only use active memory than you only get killed by oom-killer if you actually reach the full 32 GB of your 32 GB? |
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| 21:33.47 | markybob | nottakennick: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building |
| 21:34.13 | TomTomTo1 | okee, it says pdfunite [options] PDF-sourcefile1..PDF-sourcefilen so i guess there is no hardcoded limit for 1..n |
| 21:34.13 | greycat | cuqa_: why are you even TALKING or THINKING about oom-killer when you're only using 50% of your RAM and you have swap? |
| 21:34.28 | cuqa_ | because oom-killer sometimes gets invoked |
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| 21:34.53 | greycat | Then you must have some high-memory-use spikes but none currently. |
| 21:34.53 | okee | TomTomTo1> Thanks |
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| 21:35.17 | greycat | Increase swap, and try to catch the culprit before it's killed. |
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| 21:35.40 | cafuego | it's called monitoring. |
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| 21:36.09 | cafuego | and oom-killer does log what it kills. |
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| 21:36.35 | greycat | That's a starting point, sure. But if it's killing the wrong thing, and then the real culprit dies naturally.... |
| 21:36.58 | greycat | *shrug* too little information given |
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| 21:37.42 | cafuego | It's probably chrome <heh> |
| 21:39.16 | nottakennick | markybob i appreciate the how to, but what I'm describing should build cleanly, and doesn't, though i guess I'll go figure out how this patch that was included with the source package is supposed to be applied before compilation, if not manually |
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| 21:41.36 | nottakennick | yeah in fact that doesn't say anything about patches in the section about building from debian sources and I'm otherwise following those directions so thanks for trying to treat and street me with a blind link to a relevant doc :p |
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| 21:42.26 | markybob | nottakennick: you didn't even have the right command :P probably shouldn't talk |
| 21:42.52 | nottakennick | yeah, typos are inexcusable! lol |
| 21:42.55 | nottakennick | later eh |
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| 21:45.04 | TunaLobster | So I have bridged ethernet and wireless networks on a Pi2B. DHCP works great with the rest of the network and all packets are going through. It is fantastic. The issue is that I cannot ping things from the command line nor can I connect to DNS for updates. How can I do both a bridge and keep the pi connected? |
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| 21:48.11 | MeatHammer | Can anyone suggest a good reference for namespaces? |
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| 21:48.34 | greycat | In what context? Some programming language? |
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| 21:49.15 | MeatHammer | greycat: just like... reference guide with a quickstart would be.... ideal. Specifically: just defining and manipulating the different namespaces available |
| 21:49.26 | ompaul | family names from the simpsons |
| 21:49.42 | markybob | well that didn't help at all |
| 21:49.57 | TomTomTo1 | MeatHammer, is this still your network question? namespace can mean all sorts of things. |
| 21:50.31 | MeatHammer | TomTomTo1: no I have a good handle on network namespaces now. I'd like to learn the same for the others |
| 21:51.22 | MeatHammer | this is a good primer but seems old and lacks syntax and stuff: https://lwn.net/Articles/531114/ |
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| 21:51.51 | greycat | Oh, some kernel thing. I don't know, then. |
| 21:52.09 | MeatHammer | man... namespaces is like a VM without all the overhead... how is this not more popular! |
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| 21:53.19 | greycat | I don't use VMs either! |
| 21:54.06 | markybob | greycat: at work you don't have servers with vsphere or xen? |
| 21:54.22 | MeatHammer | well i run quite a bit of dodgy apps and I'd like to sandbox them. the network namespace is a very nice and easy way for firwalling entire apps/processes. just saying. |
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| 21:54.38 | egrain | apt-get upgrade glibc should upgrade the glibc package, shouldn't it? yet it says there is no glibc package. |
| 21:54.50 | markybob | egrain: no. it's called libc6 |
| 21:54.57 | egrain | thanks a bunch. |
| 21:55.03 | markybob | egrain: /topic says so. and i told you earlier today |
| 21:55.16 | qman__ | "Namespace" is a generic term that you really need to qualify, I still don't know what exactly you're referring to |
| 21:55.20 | egrain | lalala... sorry for not listening. |
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| 21:56.12 | greycat | markybob: ... no. Should I? Why would I? |
| 21:56.16 | MeatHammer | qman__: Ok since linux 2.6 there have been 6 different namespaces, like network, IPC, etc. i am wondering if anyone has a good reference for adminstering / setting up / tweaking these namespaces. I will continue googlin i just figured debian wiki or something might have a link |
| 21:56.57 | MeatHammer | but my preliminary googlin says namespaces arent super-popular as the search results are poor. |
| 21:57.25 | MeatHammer | so as a newb project I wanna have a terminal which is completely sanboxed, a virtual terminal if you will |
| 21:57.37 | markybob | greycat: it's pretty normal...do you have servers? nm. offtopic |
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| 21:58.29 | jim | egrain, first, I'm totally unaware of your use case...but I can tell you that upgrading just libc is very dangerous, without also upgrading everything that links to it (it's dangerous, because -everything- links to it) |
| 21:58.42 | egrain | i know. |
| 21:58.44 | egrain | please kill me. |
| 21:58.45 | egrain | PLEASE! |
| 21:58.58 | greycat | MeatHammer: in the future, to avoid confusing the hell out of everyone, you might want to call these things "Linux kernel user namespaces" or something. Since nobody uses them, and since "namespace" usually refers to class hierarchies in object oriented programming languages, etc. ... |
| 21:59.01 | quantic | jim: I suspect this is related to his attempts to downgrade a sid+stable frankensystem to stable. |
| 21:59.08 | egrain | ohh yeah... |
| 21:59.18 | jim | ugh |
| 21:59.30 | egrain | though i gave up on that. they have sid installed and don't want it redone, then they can live with it. |
| 21:59.32 | MeatHammer | greycat: my bad. like i said, Im here because Linux kernel user namespaces dont have a lot of documentation. Sorry, |
| 21:59.38 | egrain | but they haven't upgraded this thing like ever. |
| 21:59.55 | quantic | egrain: It's broken. Let it be broken and they can deal with their decision. |
| 22:00.00 | qman__ | MeatHammer: after reading further into your link, I'm pretty sure you're after LXC containers |
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| 22:00.35 | egrain | quantic, i hate that you speak the words of reason. |
| 22:01.00 | egrain | but i'll heed your advice. i'll type it exit and tell them that it's a cluterfuck i can't fix without redoing it. |
| 22:01.02 | egrain | s |
| 22:01.06 | egrain | typein. |
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| 22:01.36 | TomTomTo1 | egrain, better not make yourself liable for their broken system. |
| 22:01.52 | MeatHammer | qman__: googling now |
| 22:02.06 | jim | egrain, is that true? things you should probably do really soon: back up your entire /home... and maybe backup the rest of your drive, in sections... once this is done (yes I know this is going to be a lot of work) you should at least consider installing stable... maybe you can do this on some extra hd space you may have, so you could just either restore to it, or (if you have a separate home partition or vol) just mount it there |
| 22:02.07 | egrain | i'm already not. i told them from the start that it needs to be reinstalled. well, right after you guys told me about sid. i'm usually don't use debian. |
| 22:02.34 | egrain | jim? you missed the part earlier where i said it's not my server. |
| 22:02.46 | egrain | but thank you. |
| 22:02.48 | greycat | You should be performing backups regardless of anything else. |
| 22:03.03 | jim | oh ok |
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| 22:03.19 | jim | yeah, you should back up if, and what, you can |
| 22:03.21 | egrain | backups? what's there to backup? a few config files? my self shot porn collection? |
| 22:03.33 | TomTomTo1 | let's close this topic. |
| 22:03.34 | egrain | which i have backed up. |
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| 22:04.17 | greycat | If there is nothing to back up, then you can reinstall easily. |
| 22:04.28 | greycat | Also you could just unplug the damned server because it's not doing anything. |
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| 22:04.32 | jim | well he says it's not his |
| 22:04.37 | markybob | greycat: many of use told him that hours ago |
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| 22:05.17 | jim | egrain, are you in contact with the owner? |
| 22:05.27 | egrain | i am. |
| 22:05.38 | MeatHammer | qman__: lxc containers are interesting. Do they work well? |
| 22:06.21 | qman__ | I don't use them, so I can't say from experience, but they've replaced openvz for most people |
| 22:06.26 | egrain | and i'm proud to say that i won the fight stopping them installing packages manually. |
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| 22:07.22 | jim | egrain, I dunno. so it seems like you should back up and reinstall... it also seems like you need permission from the owner to do so |
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| 22:07.35 | jim | I dunno what else to say |
| 22:07.44 | MeatHammer | qman__: do you know if lxc is on the repos? |
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| 22:08.24 | egrain | jim: which i don't have. that's the whole problem here. |
| 22:08.45 | qman__ | MeatHammer: it's a kernel feature, so you probably already have it, might need some management tools though, which should certainly be in the repos |
| 22:08.54 | markybob | egrain: print this out and hand it to them https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 22:08.55 | egrain | i know when i'm outclassed and when you guys here tell me to reinstall and not use sid i would do that. |
| 22:09.07 | MeatHammer | qman__: ok thanks you. |
| 22:09.26 | jim | egrain, one thing, the way debian upgrades, is it's likely to install a new kernel, and if the server is a remote, the remote people might have somethign to say about the booting and the kernel it boots |
| 22:09.26 | egrain | haha. franken debian! |
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| 22:09.28 | egrain | i like that1 |
| 22:10.28 | jim | egrain, most people here who have been through helping folks with that, would cringe when they realize it's a frankendebian |
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| 22:10.55 | egrain | jim: oh, it gets better. they guy running the server is not the guy using it. the guy using it already agreed to me installing it new, but he also can't let me do it without the actual owners permission. |
| 22:11.07 | egrain | and that owner hasn't upgraded it or done anything to it. |
| 22:11.13 | egrain | except add sid it seems. |
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| 22:11.20 | jim | straightening frankens out is a LOT of work |
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| 22:11.26 | egrain | see what i have to work with here? |
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| 22:11.30 | jim | almost always |
| 22:11.46 | egrain | oh, i'm not gonna do that. they just asked me to install the glibc thing, which is the libc6 here it turns out. that's all i'm trying now. |
| 22:12.16 | egrain | anyway, the guy using the server isn't responding so i'm done for the night it seems. |
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| 22:12.22 | markybob | egrain: oh dear lord |
| 22:12.29 | jim | egrain, do you have any kind of responsibility for fixing this? |
| 22:12.31 | markybob | egrain: so you're going to install sid's libc6? |
| 22:12.51 | markybob | egrain: and you expect this to be secure/stable/okay? |
| 22:12.53 | egrain | markybob, (saying it in a cool voice:) ohhhhhh... yeahhhhh... |
| 22:13.00 | egrain | haha. no, i don't. |
| 22:13.08 | egrain | but what am i supposed to do? |
| 22:13.08 | nname31 | hello, how can unpack-edit-modify .abs firmware file?, any idea? |
| 22:13.14 | egrain | sid's is better than none. |
| 22:13.20 | markybob | egrain: shoot whoever you're working for |
| 22:13.27 | jim | (if you don't have responsibility, jump in the heated pool and say HALALOOYA) |
| 22:13.28 | markybob | egrain: this is idiotic |
| 22:13.44 | greycat | Why did they even call you if you aren't allowed to do anything? |
| 22:13.48 | egrain | wow. i'm actually laughing out loud like the children used to abbreviate. |
| 22:14.10 | jim | yeah, you have a lot of things that block what is needed to be done |
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| 22:14.48 | markybob | egrain: if you're not in charge and have no responsibility just walk away and go home |
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| 22:15.04 | egrain | jim: actually i have just one thing blocking the things that need to be done: the guy owning the server. |
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| 22:15.49 | egrain | markybob, i don't know if you knew this, but these days you can do stuff from your home via ssh. so i'm already sitting pretty comfy at my home desk. |
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| 22:16.13 | markybob | egrain: i had no idea. that must be amazing. |
| 22:16.31 | jim | egrain, until and unless the owner give you the "keys" and permission to do this, markybob's advice applies... you can't do anything without both |
| 22:16.32 | egrain | yeah! when i switched from windows to linux i was also like: wow! this is the shit. |
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| 22:16.46 | TomTomTo1 | (markybob is still new to this) |
| 22:16.46 | egrain | guys, guys! |
| 22:16.49 | egrain | how is your german? |
| 22:16.54 | markybob | egrain: and fucking with a sid box and upgrading it and whatever else you try to do remotely is laughable. |
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| 22:17.13 | egrain | bobby: frag ihn das wirs reinstallen koennen << which means "i'm asking him if we can reinstall". |
| 22:17.15 | egrain | PROGRESS! |
| 22:17.29 | markybob | TomTomTo1: :/ |
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| 22:17.35 | egrain | all thanks to your kind comments. so thank you. |
| 22:18.25 | jim | I don't envy you |
| 22:18.46 | egrain | why not? |
| 22:18.51 | egrain | now i get to learn debian as well. |
| 22:19.09 | markybob | egrain: not if you don't listen |
| 22:19.23 | egrain | am i not listening? |
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| 22:19.46 | TomTomTo1 | move this to #debian-offtopic pls. |
| 22:19.54 | markybob | egrain: you need to understand there is no fixing. none. no matter what. and you're making it worse. upgrading libc6 and removing sid from sources.list |
| 22:20.26 | egrain | i know. i said earlier that the guy is asking the other guy if we can reinstall. so the situation has been made clear and has been understood. |
| 22:20.49 | jim | whoever put the sid sources in there, had root authentication |
| 22:21.00 | TomTomTo1 | egrain, move this to #debian-offtopic pls. everything has been already said five times. |
| 22:21.04 | egrain | i'm in #debian-offtopic. don't want to upset anyone. |
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| 22:21.28 | zerodrama | guise - can you prease put debugfs in rescue mode |
| 22:21.29 | zerodrama | ? |
| 22:21.51 | zerodrama | it has done heroic things for me in the last few days |
| 22:22.10 | zerodrama | also hexedit or some such |
| 22:22.27 | TomTomTo1 | markybob, sry for that, couldn't pass that one up :P |
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| 22:22.54 | markybob | TomTomTo1: no we're good :) |
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| 22:47.24 | jhutchins | !de |
| 22:47.25 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 22:56.42 | JaJonm | Hello |
| 22:56.46 | JaJonm | Somebody using Openvpn? |
| 22:57.03 | JaJonm | i would like to know how to auto connect on boot |
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| 22:58.42 | quantic | JaJonm: Ensure that the client config is in /etc/openvpn, and systemctl enable openvpn@<config file name without extension> |
| 22:59.10 | JaJonm | it is |
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| 22:59.19 | JaJonm | i renamed it |
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| 22:59.48 | JaJonm | its client.conf |
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| 23:01.24 | JaJonm | quantic: i also tried /etc/init/myopenvpn the hack |
| 23:01.37 | JaJonm | quantic: and also uncommented autostart=all in main |
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| 23:02.08 | JaJonm | quantic: on /etc/default/openvpn |
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| 23:02.56 | JaJonm | quantic: what else i can try? |
| 23:03.04 | quantic | JaJonm: Running jessie? |
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| 23:03.47 | JaJonm | quantic idk what is jessie |
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| 23:04.05 | JaJonm | i use kali linux |
| 23:04.39 | quantic | JaJonm: We don't support Kali, here. |
| 23:04.56 | JaJonm | but should it not be the same |
| 23:05.06 | quantic | No. |
| 23:05.07 | JaJonm | to let it auto connect on boot?! |
| 23:05.11 | JaJonm | okay |
| 23:05.23 | quantic | Please seek the appropriate forum for Kali Linux. |
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| 23:05.34 | quantic | #kali-linux, I believe. |
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| 23:16.11 | axc1298 | would debian have any issue seeing 2 x 5TB hard drives connected via usb? |
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| 23:21.30 | TomTomTo1 | i think the limit is something like 8ZB, you are a bit below that :P |
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| 23:23.03 | zykotick9 | axc1298: note, i ran into issues with select usb enclosures NOT working with 3TB+ drives - while others work fine. best of luck. |
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| 23:23.58 | karlpinc | egrain: You might be interested in the <overview> factoid. |
| 23:24.01 | TomTomTo1 | think that depends on the supported LBA of the controller. modern ones are 64 bit. if the drives came with the adapter then there should be no problem. |
| 23:24.04 | karlpinc | !tell egrain about overview |
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| 23:25.13 | egrain | i see. |
| 23:25.13 | egrain | thanks. |
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| 23:25.53 | karlpinc | egrain: You could also ask here about getting your vpn to work with stable. (As in, what's really the problem? I've not been following the backstory.) |
| 23:27.07 | egrain | i'm trying to connect to a openvpn via openvpn --config clientconfigfile and it doesn't even connect to the server. just doesn't work. though that's all i can tell you right now since i don't have the system running right now. |
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| 23:30.02 | karlpinc | egrain: Ok. Well, there's various ways of debugging this. I'd expect it to work since I'd expect openvpn to be inter-operable. Come back some time if you care to look into it. (For one thing, you often need a server certificate, at minimum, in addition to just a config file.) |
| 23:30.24 | egrain | oh, i used the files on another machine and they work fine. |
| 23:30.26 | karlpinc | egrain: There's also openvpn support. (Probably a channel here but I've not looked.) |
| 23:30.36 | egrain | though there i have the newest openssl and openvpn running. |
| 23:30.49 | egrain | so it's not they keys or the certificates. |
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| 23:31.08 | egrain | but thanks anyway. |
| 23:31.14 | karlpinc | egrain: If you're not authenticating with a certificate or key you're likely opening yourself to man in the middle attacks. |
| 23:31.56 | armin | hi, did anyone of you create a shellscript to generate customized debian live iso images? |
| 23:32.10 | egrain | you didn't read everything i wrote. i saidi used the files on another machine. as in the certificate, the keys, the ca and the ta file |
| 23:32.15 | egrain | everything the same. |
| 23:32.23 | armin | (just trying to not reinvent the wheel here) |
| 23:32.27 | karlpinc | egrain: Ok. |
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| 23:32.38 | karlpinc | armin: Beyond what's in the debian-live package? |
| 23:32.57 | armin | karlpinc: i would love to add some custom packages, yes. |
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| 23:33.27 | karlpinc | armin: I mean the debian-live package for the debian os. It makes custom debian live images. |
| 23:34.05 | karlpinc | armin: Er. I guess it's not called debian-live. You'll have to search for it. |
| 23:34.12 | armin | live-build? |
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| 23:34.40 | karlpinc | armin: Yup. |
| 23:34.41 | armin | karlpinc: any recommendation for a good tutorial/howto/script that i can use? most things i find on the internet are old. |
| 23:34.55 | karlpinc | armin: You could try reading the instructions that come with it. |
| 23:35.05 | axc1298 | zykotick9: TomTomTo1: thanks |
| 23:35.15 | jnewt | i'm doing startx -- -dpi 125 from the command line after login. how do i make that automatic for local logins (not ssh)? |
| 23:35.38 | karlpinc | armin: In addition to the man page there might be a -doc package or something in the /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/ dir. |
| 23:35.58 | armin | karlpinc: awesome, ty |
| 23:36.21 | karlpinc | armin: I notice that live-build recommends live-manual or live-manual-html be installed. |
| 23:36.35 | karlpinc | armin: (and live-config-doc) |
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| 23:38.06 | karlpinc | jnewt: Rather than try to figure that out, why don't you tell us what problem you're really trying to solve first? |
| 23:38.30 | jnewt | karlpinc: i can't read anything because everything is too small |
| 23:38.35 | armin | karlpinc: perfect, thank you. |
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| 23:38.58 | trump | hey all |
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| 23:40.06 | karlpinc | jnewt: Perhaps try configuring the screen resolution from the gui? Let's see.... |
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| 23:40.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | are the packages in debian enough to build apks for android e.g. for software from a gpl software with a git repository? or would one need to install other things |
| 23:41.17 | karlpinc | jnewt: I run xfce4 and it has a xfce4-display-settings program. Perhaps your desktop has a settings menu? |
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| 23:42.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | and obviously that would include crosscompiling for arm |
| 23:42.15 | PenGui | I have tried to configure apache with php fpm and proxy mod and when i try a connection in the error logs i get connection refused any ideas? |
| 23:42.44 | karlpinc | PenGui: In the apache logs? |
| 23:43.32 | PenGui | karlpinc: http://dpaste.com/3V2FGCV & http://dpaste.com/02Q5GNK |
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| 23:43.39 | karlpinc | CutMeOwnThroat: Dunno. I'd be interested in finding out. But, I don't know what an apk is. I thought java/davlik was dynamically bytecode compliled. |
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| 23:45.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | karlpinc, they're just zip archives that you can unpack... as to what's inside... *shrug*. If you want to pack/unpack, it seems you must do it using the android bridge, which is in debian + an installer for a more googly(?) version |
| 23:46.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | but crosscompiling... mmh |
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| 23:47.37 | karlpinc | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm sure you can cross compile for the arm arch(es). Dunno if that'd be required.... |
| 23:47.44 | TomTomTo1 | CutMeOwnThroat, me thinks that's all in the android sdk. my memory on this is not fresh though. |
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| 23:49.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | libandroidsdk-common-java? |
| 23:49.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | package names don't look so promising |
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| 23:51.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, and you have to sign your apk |
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| 23:53.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | karlpinc, doesn't look so easy. and actually not sure if you really have to crosscompile... it may all be java |
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