| 00:02.50 | AciD` | abrotman > is there a way to reinstall the base packages..without removing the other (non-base) packages? ;) |
| 00:04.22 | markybob | ah frankendebian |
| 00:04.24 | ZodoTurtle | If that becomes my issue. Then I will permantely boycott nvidia in all its forms. The serious issue is that I don't believe ATI to be any better. |
| 00:05.11 | AciD` | hm, wierd, relaunching the exact same aptitude command allows me to only reinstall, and not remove the other packages.. |
| 00:06.17 | zykotick9 | ZodoTurtle: no ATI can be used in 3D freedom... requiring a non-free blob for the "open source" driver to do 3D... so ya, I _think_ ATI/AMD is worse :( |
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| 00:08.02 | bmomjian | Uh, I can't get SSI to work on Apache 2.4 since my upgrade to Jessie; logs say: mod_include: Options +Includes wasn't set, INCLUDES filter removed:; Any ideas? I have been at this for 30 minutes now. |
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| 00:08.26 | ZodoTurtle | So, now Linux will not have reasonable drivers per distrobution, and will be required to download frequently incompatable packages directly from the vendor. Something that is NOT a requirement for Windows users and therefore, unreasonable. |
| 00:08.54 | teraflops | hehe |
| 00:08.58 | teraflops | sorry |
| 00:09.04 | ZodoTurtle | Is that what I'm reading? |
| 00:09.30 | blind | uh, people on windows download graphics card drivers from the manufacturer.. |
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| 00:12.27 | Finetundra | Hey folks, how can I determine what kind of drive is in use? |
| 00:12.59 | blind | as in? |
| 00:13.00 | zykotick9 | Finetundra: "drive"? |
| 00:13.31 | abrotman | ludicrous speed? |
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| 00:14.37 | Finetundra | zykotick9: yes, so can I ID a drive as scsi, ide, sata, etc from the OS level |
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| 00:15.18 | zykotick9 | Finetundra: ahhh. well, now the channel knows what you mean ;) best of luck... |
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| 00:17.01 | AciD` | would you see why I cannot `aptitude reinstall '~pstandard'` (cf http://paste.ubuntu.com/15263431) |
| 00:17.11 | bmomjian | I am confused what a2ensite does on Jessie. Do I have to run it? |
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| 00:17.35 | markybob | AciD`: we don't know because you're not using debian. ask #ubuntu |
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| 00:20.52 | zykotick9 | Finetundra: fyi, smartmontool has "smartctl -i /dev/foo" |
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| 00:21.29 | veverak | is there some way to prevent users from launching binaries in their ~/ directory? |
| 00:21.43 | veverak | (like when they copy into it something, mark it +x and want to run it) |
| 00:21.51 | veverak | it's ment for users that ssh into machine only |
| 00:22.06 | abrotman | can you mount /home/ noexec ? |
| 00:22.48 | veverak | I can, thanks! :D |
| 00:23.31 | zykotick9 | wouldn't be happy if ~/bin suddenly became non-executable... |
| 00:23.53 | veverak | whatever |
| 00:23.57 | veverak | zykotick9: it's "backup" machine |
| 00:24.05 | veverak | you are ment to copy data there, not to use anything there |
| 00:24.08 | veverak | :) |
| 00:24.19 | abrotman | so why do the yhave interactive login ability? |
| 00:24.20 | at0m | you could still "sh ~/bin/app" right? |
| 00:24.39 | veverak | abrotman: been thinkig about using limited shell |
| 00:24.43 | veverak | not sure it's perfect though |
| 00:24.50 | veverak | doesn't have yet figured out everything |
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| 00:25.56 | geusebio | Fffuck |
| 00:26.03 | geusebio | *seppaku* |
| 00:26.22 | lost_soul | now, now... no need to be a potty mouth |
| 00:26.44 | geusebio | I'm sorry, I shouldn't have dropped a u-bomb in here. |
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| 00:47.54 | donald | How to move a sofware downloaded by git clone to another directory to use it as a software? |
| 00:49.52 | geusebio | mv directory_you_cloned ./some/place/else? |
| 00:50.09 | donald | yes |
| 00:50.13 | donald | with this command |
| 00:50.25 | geusebio | mv ./from ./to |
| 00:50.26 | donald | but where is he final destination? |
| 00:50.35 | geusebio | Wherever you want it, buddy. |
| 00:51.01 | geusebio | if you want it to be executable in your CLI without going to the explicit location and running ./somesoftware to make it run, you need to add it to your $PATH |
| 00:51.46 | markybob | donald: most git's have a readme/install file. read that. maybe it has make install. anyway, read and ask them. if it's a binary you can put it just about anywhere. most likely /usr/local/bin or ~/bin |
| 00:51.53 | donald | I mean I want to put it to the nice destination to let my os know this directory as a librairy. |
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| 00:52.14 | markybob | it's a libary now |
| 00:52.19 | donald | right I am going to read it |
| 00:52.44 | markybob | donald: yeah do that first. you didn't even tell us which softare it is. we're not mind readers. |
| 00:52.54 | markybob | donald: please research before asking |
| 00:54.50 | donald | rofl https://gitweb.torproject.org/user/atagar/stem.git/ |
| 00:55.34 | donald | use the classic way https://stem.torproject.org/download.html does not support the last updatr |
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| 00:56.59 | donald | markybob |
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| 00:58.28 | jmcnaught | donald: that software seems to be available in Debian, and also has a newer version available in backports. |
| 00:58.53 | jmcnaught | donald: installing stuff from source code should usually be a last-resort on Debian, especially if you don't know how |
| 00:59.09 | donald | If I understand nicely I have to change repository? |
| 00:59.47 | jmcnaught | donald: see http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ for how to use backports |
| 01:00.02 | mrrhq | donald: You're probably looking for something like ~/.local/bin/ but it needs to be enabled in your .profile or .bashrc (forget which one). |
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| 01:00.29 | mrrhq | That's what I use when I want to build something for Git, that Debian doesn't have in the repos. |
| 01:01.11 | donald | apt-get -t jessie-backports install python-stem |
| 01:01.11 | donald | Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait |
| 01:01.11 | donald | E: La valeur « jessie-backports » n'est pas valable pour APT::Default-Release car cette version ne fait pas partie des sources disponibles. |
| 01:01.59 | jmcnaught | donald: you forgot to add the repo: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index2h2 |
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| 01:02.49 | donald | deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org jessie main |
| 01:02.49 | donald | deb-src http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org jessie main |
| 01:02.50 | jmcnaught | donald: also if you ever need to paste more than a single line, please use https://paste.debian.net/ :) |
| 01:02.52 | donald | that looks fine |
| 01:03.19 | mrrhq | donald: That's not backports though. |
| 01:03.36 | jmcnaught | donald: that's not from the instructions i linked you to. if you would rather use the tor project's packages instead of Debian's, then you should get support from the tor project |
| 01:06.57 | mrrhq | Hm, that reminds me. Sorry for an unrelated question, but when will Debian ever upstream Syncthing? https://syncthing.net/ --- http://apt.syncthing.net/ |
| 01:08.19 | donald | I think I understand |
| 01:10.03 | bmomjian | Can someone look at my Apache 2.4 configs after a Jessie upgrade to tell me why I am getting this error? "mod_include: Options +Includes (or IncludesNoExec) wasn't set, INCLUDES filter removed:". |
| 01:10.15 | bmomjian | My fies are here: http://momjian.us/tmp/ My website is down. |
| 01:10.48 | abrotman | bmomjian: probably want your main apache.conf |
| 01:11.29 | bmomjian | karlpinc: was a huge help but I am afraid he has left. |
| 01:11.33 | bmomjian | ok, hold |
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| 01:11.38 | abrotman | he'll be around again |
| 01:11.47 | bmomjian | ok, it is at the URL now |
| 01:12.10 | bmomjian | I wrote down everything karlpinc told me and followed his instructions, but he didn't mention SSI. :-( |
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| 01:13.11 | bmomjian | Is the problem with "AllowOverride None" in <Directory /var/www/> in apache.conf? Does it not allow 000-default to set +Includes later? |
| 01:13.51 | abrotman | Some of your content has SSI? |
| 01:13.56 | bmomjian | yes |
| 01:14.08 | bmomjian | a lot of it, or I would have just rewritten it out. |
| 01:14.27 | bmomjian | the ssi is being served literally to the browser |
| 01:14.40 | bmomjian | and the error message kind of explains why, but it doesn't explain what I am missing. |
| 01:15.20 | bmomjian | e.g. http://momjian.us/main/contact.html has literal SSI in it as comments |
| 01:15.23 | abrotman | your main site has two Options directives, is that allowed? |
| 01:15.30 | bmomjian | uh |
| 01:15.43 | abrotman | for /var/www/ |
| 01:15.48 | abrotman | I'm asking, I don't know, just a thought |
| 01:16.03 | bmomjian | OK, let me move it; it is worth a try, sure |
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| 01:16.51 | bmomjian | uh, no change |
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| 01:18.19 | abrotman | https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=33089 |
| 01:19.22 | abrotman | bmomjian: you're not the only one, and the comments have some suggestions |
| 01:19.25 | bmomjian | I am hanging on that url |
| 01:19.43 | abrotman | yeah, it was slow for me |
| 01:19.48 | abrotman | it loaded eventually |
| 01:20.28 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: based on your error message, i would try moving what you have in xbit-hack.conf to inside the the Directory it should apply to in 000-default (that apache bug is still loading for me too...) |
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| 01:21.16 | armin | is there an easy way to create a new users home directory so that it is encrypted? |
| 01:21.45 | abrotman | bmomjian: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19200522/apache-not-processing-basic-ssi So many silly things. They apparently need to document that better |
| 01:21.58 | bmomjian | Do I keep the IfModule lines to? |
| 01:22.08 | armin | yes. |
| 01:22.40 | abrotman | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/configuring-apache2-to-use-server-side-includes-584589/ |
| 01:22.44 | abrotman | so many different solutions .. |
| 01:22.59 | abrotman | armin: just for one user? |
| 01:23.42 | bmomjian | moving into 000-default did not help |
| 01:24.16 | bmomjian | oh, <DIRECTORY> |
| 01:24.42 | armin | what exactly are you both guys up to? does everybody of you have a *different* apache problem? |
| 01:25.23 | armin | i just looked at the config one of you posted above, was the question why that site doesn't do https? |
| 01:25.33 | bmomjian | moving into <directory> didn't help either? Does it have to be in apache.conf? |
| 01:25.35 | flaf | Hi. Question about pinning. Can someone explain me why the priority is the same (ie 990) for all versions of the "ceph" package here (outpout of the second command) => https://gist.github.com/flaf/9a16ed3f96ea4c2bf6ca ? |
| 01:27.50 | bmomjian | should I ask on #httpd? |
| 01:27.59 | armin | flaf: it basically just means that if you have other pinning definitions as well for that package, those would have to have a priority that is higher. nothing more. |
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| 01:28.19 | armin | flaf: no. this is the correct channel to ask about pinning. |
| 01:28.45 | markybob | bmomjian: probably |
| 01:28.59 | armin | oh i just got confused by nicknames again. damn. |
| 01:29.24 | flaf | armin: but why the priority is the same for ceph_9.2.1-1~bpo80+ _and_ for ceph_0.80.7-2+deb8u1? In my preference file, I have set pinning version just for 9.2.1-* |
| 01:29.59 | armin | flaf: i don't know. |
| 01:30.06 | flaf | I expected 990 only for ceph_9.2.1-1~bpo80+ |
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| 01:31.43 | jmcnaught | flaf: is pinning necessary in this case? wouldn't the higher version number on the third party package mean that the official debian one (with a lower version) would never be used to upgrade over it? |
| 01:31.44 | flaf | armin: ok, me too and this is exactly my question (Why isn't the priority set only for ceph_9.2.1-1~bpo80+ as regard my preference file)? |
| 01:32.14 | armin | flaf: i really can't say. |
| 01:32.24 | armin | maybe someone else wants to elaborate. |
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| 01:33.20 | flaf | jmcnaught: no, it's not necessary in the present case but this not my question. My question is why the priority is 990 for ceph_9.2.1-1~bpo80+ _and_ for ceph_0.80.7-2+deb8u1 (as regard my preference file) instead only for ceph_9.2.1-1~bpo80+ as I expected. |
| 01:34.35 | armin | the suffixes confuse me |
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| 01:36.48 | flaf | https://gist.github.com/flaf/9a16ed3f96ea4c2bf6ca#file-pinning-sh-L3-L6 <= with this preference file, I expect that only "ceph" packages with version which matches 9.2.1-* have a priority equal to 990. According to the "apt-cache policy" command (https://gist.github.com/flaf/9a16ed3f96ea4c2bf6ca#file-pinning-sh-L11-L19), this is not the case. I don't understand why. |
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| 01:40.04 | flaf | Until now, I thought basic "pinning version" was something clear for me. I realize that it's not so clear for me in fact. ;) |
| 01:40.55 | bmomjian | OK, no help from #httpd. Is my only option to roll back to apache 2.2? Can that be done on Jessie? |
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| 01:43.02 | mrrhq | bmomjian: There's also ##networking. They are sometimes active. |
| 01:43.03 | jmcnaught | flaf: i generally don't use pinning, there's some documentation about it here though: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_tweaking_candidate_version |
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| 01:43.16 | bmomjian | double ##? |
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| 01:44.17 | mrrhq | I don't use pinning either. :p |
| 01:44.55 | mrrhq | bmomjian: If you join #networking it will redirect you. |
| 01:45.07 | flaf | jmcnaught: mrrhq: It can be handy when you want to avoid upgrade of a specific package. |
| 01:45.57 | bmomjian | ok, I have asked there |
| 01:46.00 | mrrhq | I think the ## thing is so people know it's not an "official" channel. Like on freenode it's ##linux instead of #linux, because #linux is an official channel, likely one that Torvolds would be on, or something. I don't know... |
| 01:46.07 | bmomjian | and I asked on the Postgres channel for off-channel help. |
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| 01:46.31 | mrrhq | Seems to be a Freenode thing. |
| 01:47.02 | jmcnaught | flaf: there's also "apt-mark hold" |
| 01:48.09 | flaf | jmcnaught: indeed but I prefer pinning set in a plain text configuration (for instance I use pinning on servers managed by puppet). |
| 01:48.41 | flaf | (puppet works well with plain text configuration files) |
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| 01:49.06 | mrrhq | jmcnaught: flaf: Th eonly thing I've used apt-pinning for was when I was experimenting with downgrading from Sid to Stable for a moment while everything was transitioning to libstdc++ version 6, because there's no better way to do that. |
| 01:49.28 | mrrhq | I really don't use it anymore. It worked out fine though. |
| 01:50.08 | bmomjian | Nothing from ##networking either |
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| 01:51.11 | mrrhq | IRC is slow. :p |
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| 01:52.43 | gardenman | httpredir.debian.org down? ive trouble connect to the repos... |
| 01:53.48 | mrrhq | gardenman: What about ftp.debian.org ? |
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| 01:55.02 | mrrhq | Also, yeah, I've checked it in my browser. It 404'd. |
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| 01:56.46 | gardenman | same for security.debian.org i guess ive to wait _ |
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| 01:57.19 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: on thing you could try while you wait is separate all of your VirtualHosts into separate .conf files in sites-available (instead of everything in 000-default). Then turn the sites on one at a time. It might help you narrow down the problem |
| 01:57.48 | dvs | gardenman, I just updated 10 minutes ago and it was fine. |
| 01:58.29 | bmomjian | but the problem is the main site, not any virtual ones |
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| 01:59.54 | mrrhq | Security works fine for me. http://security.debian.org/dists/ |
| 02:00.04 | mrrhq | So does the FTP, so use those. |
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| 02:00.48 | lost_soul | if I boot a system using ide=nodma will that also affect my sata drives... I would think no but thought it best to ask. |
| 02:01.36 | laidback_01 | bmomjian, it's a symptom of using virtualhosts *:80 You'll need to define your 'main' site as a VirtualHost as well - using NameVirtualHost or have a 'default' site that is the catch all for any of the incorrectly directed names. that could be your 'main' site then. |
| 02:01.56 | bmomjian | wow, I was not aware of that |
| 02:02.01 | lost_soul | researching further I see many people that say the ide=nodma option doesn't make any difference on many distros so I'm not even sure that booting with that option will have any affect |
| 02:02.12 | bmomjian | is that what a2ensite does? |
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| 02:02.46 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: a2ensite/a2dissite basically just manage symlinks |
| 02:03.05 | laidback_01 | I've no idea, I just manually do it, mostly I ignore the debian scripts and do it the apache way - because debian isn't the only system I use. learning the apache way applies to freebsd, redhat, debian, etc. |
| 02:03.08 | bmomjian | karlpinc said 2.4 would be a difficult upgrade |
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| 02:04.23 | bmomjian | so the new site is DocumentRoot /var/www/html? |
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| 02:04.55 | mrrhq | lost_soul: I think it's only needed if the BIOS does not properly support DMA for IDE drives. Not sure if it affects SATA |
| 02:04.56 | laidback_01 | well... it's sort of what you define... but sure, that would work |
| 02:05.06 | laidback_01 | there is a 'default' site in there. |
| 02:05.13 | laidback_01 | perhaps you need to make sure it's acting as the catch all |
| 02:05.54 | laidback_01 | or, if you are using the debian system, check out if it's in sites-enabled or wahtever. probably since it's default, it is. |
| 02:05.57 | bmomjian | ok, done, restarted, same error. |
| 02:06.27 | bmomjian | oh, uh |
| 02:06.30 | laidback_01 | most likely they got it right, so there's something off with your configs. not being rude, just saying. you are not using globbing or anything in your configs are you? t |
| 02:06.42 | bmomjian | is that question for me? |
| 02:06.46 | laidback_01 | there should be only one that is *:80, the others are someName:80 |
| 02:06.58 | lost_soul | mrrhq: well as with most of the google results I'm using an IDE to CF adapter and getting absolutely tons of messages. I would like to do away with them and having the CF use PIO mode should accomplish that but I don't want to limit my sata drives |
| 02:07.04 | bmomjian | my configs are here: http://momjian.us/tmp/ |
| 02:07.24 | bmomjian | Yes, first line is VirtualHost *:80 |
| 02:07.25 | lost_soul | incidently the sata drives are via PCI-X card, not on the motherboard itself. |
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| 02:07.46 | bmomjian | in fact there are multiple entries like that |
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| 02:08.32 | abrotman | bmomjian: #httpd didn't help you? |
| 02:08.58 | bmomjian | no reply at all. |
| 02:09.06 | bmomjian | I am starting to panic. |
| 02:09.23 | abrotman | bmomjian: none of the URLs helped? Do you have a .htaccess in the content directory? |
| 02:09.29 | bmomjian | I am trying to grab one of the PostgreSQL team I work with but no one is replying either |
| 02:09.33 | bmomjian | no .htaccess at all |
| 02:11.00 | laidback_01 | gah, I said a dumb there. *:80 is fine for Virtualhosts, all of them. Thinking of something else. |
| 02:11.01 | bmomjian | what is odd is that in both #httpd and ##networking it is not like it scrolled off the screen. My question is still near the top |
| 02:11.26 | mrrhq | lost_soul: IDE to CF sounds like a pretty cool idea though, but.. Maybe you would be better off scrapping the IDE for SATA only instead, and using an SSD if you really want more speed. IDE is really showing its age... |
| 02:12.05 | abrotman | bmomjian: I saw a few of them suggested an additional line to allow INCLUDES |
| 02:12.07 | mrrhq | Most of the newer motherboards are going to be SATA only. I just always liked the retro look of an IDE cable. :p |
| 02:13.00 | bmomjian | yes, I saw that and tried. I am unclear exactly what section they go in though, and which file. |
| 02:13.10 | mrrhq | Might be worth putting a CD player on IDE if it's a desktop. If it's a laptop, idk.. |
| 02:13.12 | lost_soul | mrrhq: This is a very old server with onboard IDE and SCSI only. The SATA card I'm using has only 8 ports and I have 8 data drives plugged in to it. |
| 02:13.18 | bmomjian | I tried it in <Directory /> and <Directory /var/www/> |
| 02:13.30 | bmomjian | what is odd is that I don't have a <Directory /var/www/html/> section at all |
| 02:13.50 | abrotman | bmomjian: such as one that suggests you need an AllowOverrides Options in your apache2.conf for /var/www/ |
| 02:14.25 | lost_soul | I like the idea of CF as it has no moving parts and I don't really need the OS to be fast or huge on this install. All it is meant to do is serve files via NFS and samba |
| 02:14.52 | bmomjian | ok, let me try that |
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| 02:16.12 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Yeah. The apache 2.4 release notes say AllowOverrides defaults now to "none". |
| 02:16.18 | mrrhq | lost_soul: What a cool sounding kit. Yeah, without knowing how a CF to IDE controller works, I'm not sure how one would stop all the error messages you said you were getting. I'm also really not even sure if the IDE transfer itself will be a bottleneck. |
| 02:16.28 | abrotman | karlpinc: he was wondering where you got to :) |
| 02:16.37 | laidback_01 | bmomjian, why do you have <Directory /> do you really have files in / that you want served? |
| 02:17.51 | mrrhq | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompactFlash#Speed |
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| 02:18.02 | mrrhq | Looks like it also depends on the speed of the CF card itself. |
| 02:18.03 | bmomjian | OK, URL updated, same problem: http://momjian.us/tmp/ |
| 02:18.07 | bmomjian | but fresh config files |
| 02:18.18 | bmomjian | oh, karlpinc is here! |
| 02:18.20 | bmomjian | Yeah! |
| 02:18.22 | lost_soul | mrrhq: well I use a similar setup on the machine that does my network routing (OpenBSD for that box) and it works fine, although it is a little slow.. but as I said I don't really need something fast |
| 02:18.40 | bmomjian | so I wrote down everything he said, but SSI has my website down for a few hours now and I can't figure it out. |
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| 02:19.06 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Hah. I once knew what I was doing. Then my brain started leaking.... Anyhow, is there a line above that says what the problem is? |
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| 02:19.34 | karlpinc | bmomjian: (I've become more enamored of nginx than apache of late.) |
| 02:19.36 | bmomjian | just the error message about INCLUDE noet enabled. |
| 02:19.42 | bmomjian | yes, I can feel that now. ;-) |
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| 02:21.07 | bmomjian | as far as I see AllowOverride only controls .htaccess, and I am not using htaccess. |
| 02:21.28 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Tried putting "IncludesNoExec <uh, something here>" in the top-level <Directory ...>? |
| 02:21.29 | abrotman | it allows subdirectory overrides also IIRC |
| 02:21.29 | bmomjian | I am happy to try, of course. Maybe Apache considers SSI to be htaccess controls. |
| 02:22.00 | bmomjian | in which file? |
| 02:22.19 | laidback_01 | bmomjian, here, try this one: http://dpaste.unisolinc.us/qW1b/raw |
| 02:22.41 | laidback_01 | I think you had the impression that the default would go to the last entry, whereas it's just the opposite, it'll go to the first. |
| 02:22.47 | karlpinc | bmomjian: I'm going to look at your setup.... |
| 02:23.04 | laidback_01 | and if you didn't have the server alias setup to handle that, it wouldn't behave as expected. |
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| 02:23.51 | laidback_01 | karlpinc, yeah, I've changed my servers over to nginx as well... so I'm just kind of trying to remember how to apache again. |
| 02:24.13 | bmomjian | no change in using that pastebin |
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| 02:24.22 | laidback_01 | hmm. bummer. |
| 02:24.29 | bmomjian | thanks karlpinc |
| 02:24.42 | laidback_01 | apache configtest comes out OK, right? |
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| 02:25.45 | bmomjian | apache2 -t has some odd error, hold |
| 02:26.31 | bmomjian | odd error: http://momjian.us/tmp/config-err.txt |
| 02:27.51 | abrotman | and what's line 74? |
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| 02:28.36 | jmcnaught | it's: Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default |
| 02:30.08 | laidback_01 | http://dpaste.unisolinc.us/WSgK#L74 |
| 02:30.21 | bmomjian | should I try that? |
| 02:30.28 | laidback_01 | http://dpaste.unisolinc.us/e6JD#L74 <-- your original config |
| 02:30.43 | bmomjian | oh, hold you wanted me to try noexec |
| 02:30.46 | bmomjian | sorry, let me do that now |
| 02:30.46 | laidback_01 | I'm just pointing out 74 - the line doesn't make sense in either context |
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| 02:31.37 | bmomjian | in apache.conf line 74 is Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default |
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| 02:33.40 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Google came up with a good debugging hint. Put a CustomLog in each virtualhost to narrow the problem down. |
| 02:33.46 | salviaD | On wheezy, I had one line of code added to /etc/init.d/rcS . Now on jessy with systemd, where can I added this 1 script line to be executed at this same early stage? |
| 02:33.55 | karlpinc | bmomjian: (Then look for the error message in each log.) |
| 02:34.09 | bmomjian | oh |
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| 02:36.47 | bmomjian | OK, so I put CustomLog "1.0" in <Directory /var/www/> but didn't see any log output in a page reload. Should I have? |
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| 02:38.07 | bmomjian | let me try every virtual host |
| 02:39.15 | bmomjian | I put it in every one but didn't see it, let me try apache2.conf |
| 02:39.30 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Humm. I'd expect a CustomLog line to look like: CustomLog "logs/access_log" "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" (or some other "format string") |
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| 02:39.53 | jmcnaught | salviaD: you can make a .service unit for the script and put it in /etc/systemd/system |
| 02:40.12 | karlpinc | bmomjian: But let me look into apache more. Maybe that won't capture errors. (Just when are you getting that log message, in what log file?) |
| 02:40.15 | bmomjian | seems it can't go in apache2.conf, syntax error |
| 02:40.32 | bmomjian | actually I was looking in the error log; let me look in the access log |
| 02:40.51 | salviaD | jmcnaught: what would be the equal to having it, as the first line in /etc/init.d/rcS ? |
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| 02:41.30 | bmomjian | no , nothing the access logs either |
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| 02:42.28 | bmomjian | I just added: CustomLog "1.0" to 000-default |
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| 02:42.59 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Looks like "the internet" is not a reliable source of advice. :-) If it's an error message you want an ErrorLog directive, and supply a path. |
| 02:43.10 | karlpinc | bmomjian: You can supply a different path for each virtual host. |
| 02:43.14 | bmomjian | ok |
| 02:43.32 | abrotman | If only Apache worked as well as PostgreSQL ... |
| 02:43.35 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Then we at least narrow it down to a virtual host. (I hope.) |
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| 02:45.38 | bmomjian | I just added ErrorLog "/var/log/apache2/1.0" but no files were created. |
| 02:45.59 | bmomjian | hold missed one |
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| 02:47.02 | jmcnaught | salviaD: it seems that there is a /lib/systemd/system/rc.local.service unit that will execute stuff in /etc/rc.local, but the systemd way would be to make your own service unit that runs the script/command, and put that in /etc/systemd/system (and then enable the service unit) |
| 02:47.30 | bmomjian | no, nothing, sorry |
| 02:47.55 | salviaD | jmcnaught: rc.local is userspace... i need this to run at the very first 2 seconds |
| 02:48.10 | karlpinc | jmcnaught: He wants it really early in the boot process. Probably needs to have a "systemd magic come before multiuser target" sort of directive. |
| 02:48.12 | salviaD | as it did, inside /etc/init.d/rcS |
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| 02:49.41 | karlpinc | bmomjian: So, you're doing something with includes, right? These are html includes? And not executing? |
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| 02:50.16 | bmomjian | so the files have html comments that used to be expanded by apache, called SSI. |
| 02:50.23 | bmomjian | e.g. <!--#set var="title" value="Contact" --> |
| 02:50.33 | bmomjian | This has them: http://momjian.us/main/contact.html |
| 02:50.48 | jmcnaught | salviaD: systemd has this concept of targets that a service unit can want. you can list them with "systemctl list-units -t target", so you would would have your custom service unit want or require one of those |
| 02:51.02 | bmomjian | The error is pretty clear that it can't find the +Includes |
| 02:51.21 | bmomjian | mod_include: Options +Includes (or IncludesNoExec) wasn't set, INCLUDES filter removed: |
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| 02:53.25 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: could it be because the includes filter happens in confs-enabled/xbit-hack.conf which gets loaded before the sites-enabled/000-default? There is a <Directory /var/www> in apache2.conf, and then lower in apache2.conf it includes conf-enabled/* and then sites-enabled/* after it |
| 02:53.35 | bmomjian | I moved "Options +Includes" out of the directory block and into the Virtual host block , but no change. |
| 02:53.53 | sorta | how do i compare a .gpg file in the apt trusted dir with a pub key .asc file? |
| 02:54.00 | bmomjian | that is true |
| 02:54.12 | bmomjian | let me try copying the xbit-hack.conf into the file again |
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| 02:55.35 | bmomjian | No change but the file is here: http://momjian.us/tmp/000-default |
| 02:55.50 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: or move the site's files into /var/www/html or somewhere in /srv (and change the DocumentRoot) so there is no conflict with the <Directory /var/www> in apache2.conf |
| 02:57.14 | bmomjian | I have moved the sites files into /var/www/html |
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| 02:57.38 | bmomjian | should the Directory config say /var/www/html and not /var/www? |
| 02:58.09 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: in 000-default yes change /var/www to /var/www/html |
| 02:58.46 | bmomjian | ok, hold |
| 02:59.05 | bmomjian | fyi, someone on #httpd has responded. |
| 02:59.20 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: also it's not clear to me why you have a <Directory /> in 000-default |
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| 02:59.37 | karlpinc | bmomjian: (and everyone) I've not really been following what's been tried. But I see a <Directory /> Options foo\n Then _no_ Options +Includes in any subdir. So the original options does not allow includes and that sticks. |
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| 03:00.02 | abrotman | I did say that .. |
| 03:00.03 | karlpinc | (any subdir with "main" in it.) |
| 03:00.07 | bmomjian | OK, updated file, but same problem: http://momjian.us/tmp/000-default |
| 03:00.12 | abrotman | not sure what he tried to resolve that |
| 03:00.16 | bmomjian | I have no idea myself |
| 03:00.36 | bmomjian | Is this right "DocumentRoot /var/www"? |
| 03:01.51 | karlpinc | bmomjian: But it's not fixed. You've got an Options FollowSymlinks on /. Does that not get rid of the Options +Includes on anything in /? (My apache is not all that....) |
| 03:01.54 | bmomjian | OK, new file contents, same output: http://momjian.us/tmp/000-default |
| 03:02.02 | bmomjian | oh, hold |
| 03:02.16 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: it should be the directory that has your website in it. if you moved it to /var/www/html. Also it looks like you removed "Options +Includes" from the <Directory /var/www> directive? |
| 03:03.06 | karlpinc | bmomjian: If it were "Options +FollowSymlinks" on / then I'd expect it to work. |
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| 03:03.26 | bmomjian | Options +Includes is lower. |
| 03:03.31 | bmomjian | let me merge them all into one |
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| 03:04.20 | bmomjian | OK, updated, same issue: http://momjian.us/tmp/000-default |
| 03:04.38 | sorta | hmmm, why does the zfsonlinux_6_all.deb file's gpg key differ so drastically from the key at the bottom of http://zfsonlinux.org/debian.html |
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| 03:10.24 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: and with the 000-default you most recently linked to, do you still have xbit-hack.conf in conf-enabled? (a2disconf can disable it) |
| 03:11.14 | bmomjian | yes |
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| 03:11.44 | karlpinc | bmomjian: I'm starting to think about ways to crank up the verbosity of the config file parsing.... |
| 03:11.46 | bmomjian | Oh, I added a "2" to ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error2.log in my default 000-default config block and there was no error2.log file created |
| 03:11.48 | bmomjian | yes |
| 03:12.02 | bmomjian | I also tried LogLevel debug and saw no change |
| 03:12.11 | bmomjian | so I am now thinking it is not even seeing that block |
| 03:12.15 | bmomjian | which gets us somewhere |
| 03:12.33 | karlpinc | bmomjian: So it's looking at the wrong virtualhost? |
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| 03:13.29 | bmomjian | that is my thought now |
| 03:13.42 | bmomjian | I am fiddling with adding that Errorlog even more places |
| 03:13.42 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Is there a NameVirtualHost anywhere? I'm getting feelings about incompatibility with that and, uh, where you specify names for each host.... but I don't remember any details. |
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| 03:14.07 | bmomjian | nope |
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| 03:14.27 | bmomjian | karlpinc, you mentioned some command to run |
| 03:14.31 | bmomjian | ap... |
| 03:14.41 | bmomjian | a2ensite |
| 03:14.48 | bmomjian | do I need to run that? |
| 03:14.52 | karlpinc | bmomjian: That wasn't me. |
| 03:14.55 | bmomjian | oh |
| 03:15.01 | bmomjian | it was the changelog I guess |
| 03:15.05 | karlpinc | bmomjian: It puts a symlink in sites-enabled. |
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| 03:15.25 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Would not hurt to look at that dir to see what's enabled. |
| 03:15.43 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: a2ensite and a2dissite simply manage symlinks from sites-available to sites-enabled. there's also a2enmod and a2enconf |
| 03:15.52 | bmomjian | OK, something is seriously wrong; I just put 'asdfasdf' as the top of 000-default and the service restarted |
| 03:15.54 | bmomjian | yikes |
| 03:16.27 | bmomjian | Yikes |
| 03:16.37 | karlpinc | giggles at all the changes we've been pouring over that were ignored. |
| 03:16.40 | bmomjian | I never renamed 000-default to 000-default.conf |
| 03:16.46 | karlpinc | * |
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| 03:17.18 | bmomjian | The release notes had this text: This change also includes Debian default |
| 03:17.18 | bmomjian | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.18 | bmomjian | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.34 | bmomjian | so I thought it means that 000-default was not to have a .config added |
| 03:18.17 | jmcnaught | heh.. something so simple, i feel silly for not noticing this.. good catch bmomjian |
| 03:18.23 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Well, never would have found that problem without chatting about it. :-) I recall now making the same mistake, briefly mercifully. |
| 03:18.42 | bmomjian | Here is the text block that had me confused: http://momjian.us/tmp/release.txt |
| 03:19.16 | bmomjian | wow, I do feel a little better but I should have found it much sooner. I added junk in the xbit conf file to check it was being seen, but never checked 000-default |
| 03:20.14 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Ah. Text seems pretty clear. But you need to know that [3] is a footnote. |
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| 03:21.11 | bmomjian | oh |
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| 03:28.49 | bmomjian | Odd that ../sites-available/000-default.conf has "Order allow,deny" |
| 03:28.53 | bmomjian | the old syntax |
| 03:29.06 | bmomjian | is my document root /var/www or /var/www/html? |
| 03:29.12 | bmomjian | for the default virtual host? |
| 03:29.22 | bmomjian | sites-enable says /var/www |
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| 03:30.33 | karlpinc | bmomjian: The only one used is the one in sites-enabled. It's supposed to be a symlink of the one in sites-available. |
| 03:31.51 | karlpinc | bmomjian: The symlink-ness is what allows the a2ensite (or whatever) commands to work. |
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| 03:35.43 | bmomjian | oh |
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| 03:36.46 | bmomjian | Ah, yes I see the 000-default.conf.dpkg-new version now |
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| 03:39.43 | jim | bmomjian, aren't you the pg project lead? |
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| 03:40.50 | centurion18 | hi |
| 03:41.12 | centurion18 | does unattended-updates upgrades automatically? |
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| 03:41.33 | centurion18 | or do i need a cron line for that? |
| 03:41.49 | markybob | centurion18: apticron makes a cron job to do that |
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| 03:50.52 | bmomjian | I am changing to the new SSI variable syntax now |
| 03:51.05 | bmomjian | yes, I am a PG core team member. |
| 03:51.28 | bmomjian | not the lead actually |
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| 03:52.31 | markybob | bmomjian: peerguardian? |
| 03:52.46 | karlpinc | markybob: PostgreSQL |
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| 03:53.06 | markybob | never heard of that used for postgresql. okay |
| 03:53.07 | bmomjian | village elder is a term bandied about. ;-) |
| 03:54.30 | karlpinc | bmomjian: Perhaps you should hide leds in your beard, in lue of twigs. ;-) |
| 03:55.17 | bmomjian | lol |
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| 04:05.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys how do i check what version of ssl my ssl install is using for apache2? |
| 04:05.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | i can't seem to find anywhere it says what version.. |
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| 04:05.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | /etc/ssl /etc/apache2/ |
| 04:07.00 | markybob | Eryn_1983_FL: dpkg -l libssl1.0.0 |
| 04:07.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 04:08.13 | jim | bmomjian, thanks for the work you all do... pg has been awesome over the years and continues to be |
| 04:08.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | it is installed |
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| 04:09.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:09.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | in ssl.conf |
| 04:09.10 | markybob | Eryn_1983_FL: i'm sure it is. which version? |
| 04:09.20 | bmomjian | jim: glad to hear it |
| 04:09.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | ii libssl1.0.0:am 1.0.1k-3+deb amd64 Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - sh |
| 04:09.42 | mrrhq | Oh jeez, do not use SSLv3. People really need to start using TLS. |
| 04:09.53 | markybob | mrrhq: - says it's not used |
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| 04:10.29 | markybob | Eryn_1983_FL: you didn't get the whole thing. it should be 1.0.1k-3+deb8u2 if you haven't apt-get update && apt-get upgrade today you need to do it |
| 04:10.31 | simonlnu | i see a nice little - there myself |
| 04:10.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 04:11.22 | mrrhq | Oh okay, whew. :p |
| 04:11.28 | markybob | Eryn_1983_FL: i mistyped. 1.0.1k-3+deb8u4 |
| 04:11.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | it updating... |
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| 04:12.27 | simonlnu | i second jim there, :) |
| 04:12.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | there updated |
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| 04:13.15 | markybob | Eryn_1983_FL: that's enough for apache |
| 04:13.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | ii libssl1.0.0:am 1.0.1k-3+deb amd64 Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - sh |
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| 04:13.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 04:13.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got no webserver of my own |
| 04:13.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | i guess there are days when having gmail is a good thing? |
| 04:15.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | er i mean email server... |
| 04:15.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | long day.. |
| 04:15.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol |
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| 04:20.10 | mrrhq | I also use my Google Account for YouTube, and so I don't think I could give up both that and GMail. |
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| 04:34.28 | bmomjian | Yeah, my website is back up, http://momjian.us/ |
| 04:34.29 | bmomjian | :-) |
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| 04:35.58 | mrrhq | gz |
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| 04:39.03 | markybob | bmomjian: your ssl setup kinda sucks |
| 04:40.23 | bmomjian | yes, I am missing an intermediate certificate that I got an Apache complaint about, which I can fix. |
| 04:40.25 | bmomjian | if that is it |
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| 04:42.55 | markybob | bmomjian: it's valid for https://momjian.us and not https://www.momjian.us. no OCSP stapling. no forward secrecy. and yes the incomplete chain |
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| 04:44.51 | bmomjian | oh, yeah, I thought I just redirected www so it wasn't a problem |
| 04:44.57 | bmomjian | unless redirection is also broken |
| 04:45.27 | markybob | bmomjian: well now you know what to look at :) |
| 04:45.34 | bmomjian | yep |
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| 04:50.21 | markybob | bmomjian: you really should aim for an A https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=momjian.us |
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| 04:53.56 | bmomjian | Agreed |
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| 04:58.07 | markybob | bmomjian: wanna see my config? it's an a+ |
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| 05:00.21 | bmomjian | uh, not sure I would understand it |
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| 05:09.56 | jaggzt | "configure: error: failed to find required GObject Introspection module GooCanvas" |
| 05:10.01 | jaggzt | anyone know what to install to get that to work? |
| 05:10.32 | jaggzt | I have already installed libgoocanvas-common, libgoocanvas-dev, python-pygoocanvas |
| 05:11.34 | markybob | jaggzt: pastebin apt-cache policy libgoocanvas-common |
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| 05:12.05 | markybob | jaggzt: and what are you compiling? |
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| 05:12.45 | jaggzt | http://paste.debian.net/410887/ |
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| 05:12.56 | jaggzt | compiling ocrfeeder.. my debian version is old |
| 05:13.05 | ironpillow | hi all, when I install squid (caching proxy) on a machine with two NICs, eth0 (wan) and eth1 (lan) how does it know what interface to hook on to? |
| 05:14.01 | jaggzt | debian ocrfeeder is at 7.11-6 but apparently I need 8.x |
| 05:14.10 | jaggzt | https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/OCRFeeder?action=show&redirect=OCRFeeder#Download |
| 05:14.11 | ironpillow | or is it just listening to both eth0:port and eth1:port ? |
| 05:14.17 | markybob | ,v ocrfeeder |
| 05:14.18 | judd | Package: ocrfeeder on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6.6+dfsg1-1; wheezy: 0.7.9-1; jessie: 0.7.11-6; stretch: 0.8.1-2; sid: 0.8.1-2 |
| 05:14.29 | markybob | ,checkbackport ocrfeeder |
| 05:14.38 | jaggzt | I have backports in apt sources |
| 05:14.47 | judd | Backporting package ocrfeeder in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: gir1.2-goocanvas-2.0. |
| 05:14.51 | jaggzt | eh |
| 05:14.52 | jaggzt | oh |
| 05:14.55 | jaggzt | ooh |
| 05:14.58 | markybob | jaggzt: that's your problem |
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| 05:15.05 | jaggzt | grr |
| 05:15.13 | jaggzt | so I'd need to go to stretch? |
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| 05:15.34 | markybob | jaggzt: if you really *need* it. but it won't be supported here per /topic. |
| 05:15.41 | jaggzt | (had some other stuff the other day that led me to want to upgrade) |
| 05:15.59 | jaggzt | just don't feel like extra broken things with the amount of stuff I have to do right now :) |
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| 05:16.18 | jaggzt | okay.. well thanks.. I might just wait then |
| 05:16.32 | jaggzt | it's not urgent yet.. just was exporting text as a searchable pdf.. it'll help when writing reports |
| 05:16.33 | markybob | jaggzt: stretch will freeze in december so probably six months after that it'll be stable :P |
| 05:16.41 | jaggzt | (scanned in some book pages.. but the stuff's not selectable) |
| 05:16.52 | jaggzt | I can just use adobe acrobat to make those for now though |
| 05:17.22 | jaggzt | markybob, heh.. okay.. well that'll be a bit late.. I'll use adobe's ocr'ing then.. just need to use my windows system each time :) |
| 05:17.30 | jaggzt | thanks a lot for the help |
| 05:17.58 | markybob | jaggzt: sure thing |
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| 05:19.21 | jaggzt | :) |
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| 05:19.43 | jaggzt | then I'll get a newer kde.. yay :) |
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| 05:32.43 | bmomjian | Any idea why this vhost isn't allowing SSI? It is in the same file as the default host that works, and the error4.log file gets created and has the SSI errors. http://momjian.us/tmp/vhost.txt |
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| 05:43.16 | otto___ | Greetings everyone! |
| 05:44.20 | otto___ | I recently dist-upgraded two systems (dekstop & laptop) to jessie. Now on my laptop NetworkManager refuses to start due to "undefined symbol: nl_object_get_type". |
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| 05:45.18 | otto___ | Both have the same set of libnl -packages installed. I even tried --reinstalling all of those, including network-manager, but no effect. Any suggestions what to try next? |
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| 05:49.37 | markybob | otto___: not really. want to pastebin your sources.list? |
| 05:50.37 | markybob | otto___: google seems lacking as well. https://www.google.com/search?q=undefined+symbol%3A+nl_object_get_type&oq=undefined+symbol%3A+nl_object_get_type&aqs=chrome..69i57.388j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=debian+undefined+symbol:+nl_object_get_type |
| 05:50.52 | otto___ | Indeed |
| 05:51.13 | otto___ | Both use an identical sources list, so there shouldn't be a problem. |
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| 05:53.11 | otto___ | And sources list is only the finnish official mirror with main, non-free and contrib + security.debian.org jessie/updates |
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| 05:54.34 | markybob | otto___: so give us an apt-cache policy network-manager |
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| 05:56.31 | markybob | otto___: i still want your sources though |
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| 05:56.48 | otto___ | http://pastebin.com/LRaTmSvM |
| 05:57.33 | otto___ | http://pastebin.com/RTbUCq8Y |
| 05:57.37 | markybob | otto___: why is it 950? |
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| 05:58.30 | otto___ | because of Pin-Priority: 950 in preferences.d |
| 05:58.48 | otto___ | But that applies to *, so there shouldn't be a problem |
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| 05:59.08 | markybob | otto___: so you have some kind of frankendebian? |
| 05:59.25 | markybob | otto___: we can't support that |
| 06:00.57 | jmcnaught | otto___: for future reference disabling pinning must be done before doing a release upgrade. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 06:01.20 | jmcnaught | otto___: do you have any other repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? |
| 06:02.58 | otto___ | I've backports pinned at 100, and as an afterthought that wasn't a very good idea during dist-upgrade :P However, the situtation is identical on both systems, and the other one survived just fine |
| 06:03.12 | otto___ | jmcnaught: there's google and dropbox repos |
| 06:03.51 | markybob | otto___: yeah there you go. frankendebian |
| 06:03.56 | markybob | !frankendebian |
| 06:03.56 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 06:04.23 | jmcnaught | otto___: manually pinning backports is unnecesarry, by default packages will only be installed from backports if you use "-t jessie-backports" in the apt-get command. |
| 06:04.48 | jmcnaught | otto___: you could try reinstalling the network-manager package to see if that helps |
| 06:05.42 | otto___ | I'm quite aware that I'm on my own in this situation. My question was probably more in the direction, how would I find out which library ought to provide a symbol. |
| 06:06.17 | markybob | otto___: if google has no idea we probably won't be able to help |
| 06:06.54 | otto___ | Haven't found a .so yet on my functioning system that would provide that nl_object_get_type |
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| 06:07.48 | markybob | otto___: i'm not sure of which part of "we don't support frankendebian because you fucked up" you don't really get |
| 06:08.28 | otto___ | I get the message. No need to get mad about it. |
| 06:08.42 | otto___ | Afterall, it's my problem. Not yours. |
| 06:10.49 | jmcnaught | otto___: i hope you figure it out. i don't know how to narrow it down really, but it will likely be in one of the three libnl packages that network-manager depends on: libnl-3-200, libnl-genl-3-200, libnl-route-3-200. |
| 06:11.42 | otto___ | nl_ prefix also refers to netlink. I've tried reinstalling those too, and versions match one-to-one between the systems. But no success yet. |
| 06:12.24 | vortek | does debian notify u of a usb drive being pluged in? |
| 06:12.34 | vortek | or offer u to browse it? |
| 06:12.52 | markybob | vortek: sure. every GUI does. |
| 06:13.00 | jmcnaught | vortek: it will depend on the desktop environment you're using, but most will do that |
| 06:13.07 | vortek | kde |
| 06:13.13 | markybob | vortek: yes |
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| 06:14.23 | vortek | cuase dmesg show its connected but kde does nothing |
| 06:14.58 | vortek | any ideas? |
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| 06:18.06 | vortek | ah other usb i get notified |
| 06:18.16 | vortek | this usb is a bad drive |
| 06:19.09 | jmcnaught | otto___: You could also try with a fresh set of conf files in /etc/NetworkManager, ask dpkg bot about "confmiss" and/or "confnew" for info on how to do that. Maybe there are some clues in the apt or dpkg logs in /var/log, a warning or something. |
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| 06:25.21 | jmcnaught | otto___: that symbol is in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnl-3.so.200. "readelf -Ws /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnl-3.so.200 | grep nl_object_get_type" (i used "ldd /usr/sbin/NetworkManager" to get the list of shared objects that are linked) |
| 06:25.24 | otto___ | Now I think I found it... I had a older version of libnl-3.so.200 in /usr/local/lib lying around from some old compiling needs. Jessie apparently prioritized that location before /lib |
| 06:25.46 | otto___ | Yea... I found out that too: 00000000000118f0 T nl_object_get_type :) |
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| 06:26.00 | jmcnaught | otto___: nice :) |
| 06:26.49 | otto___ | And the outliar in /usr/local/lib doesn't define that symbol. Excellent. |
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| 06:27.32 | jmcnaught | otto___: might be time to get rid of some/all stuff in there anyways |
| 06:29.21 | otto___ | Would be a good idea. A few years ago I did some developing that required specific versions of libnl and eg. libtins, which isn't (or atleast wasn't) packaged in debian |
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| 06:30.28 | otto___ | Having them under $HOME would be one way, but linking system services to a userdir isn't too good either |
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| 06:31.26 | otto___ | Luckily I don't have to dist-upgrade too often :P |
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| 06:31.44 | pierre365 | hi |
| 06:31.52 | z8z | Hello i have a fresh debian install.... .how to configure it as an http proxy to use that IP to navigate? |
| 06:32.14 | otto___ | (And yes. It's working now) |
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| 06:32.28 | jmcnaught | otto___: i'm glad you figured it out |
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| 06:33.33 | grawity | z8z: install Squid |
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| 06:37.24 | z8z | grawity: then maybe configuring might be a little difficult |
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| 06:37.38 | z8z | grawity: otherwise a remote desktop would be ok too |
| 06:38.02 | z8z | grawity: but there is no good remote desktop afaik |
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| 06:39.00 | pierre365 | i'm trying to understand the output of lspci -t. For example, I have the following output: http://pastebin.com/raw/YfsWfkbL i dont get the meaning of the node. what does 0000:00 means? and what does every child means? basically i want to know which PCI device use which PCI port.. |
| 06:41.15 | grawity | it's domain:bus:slot.function |
| 06:41.33 | grawity | so you have all those devices on PCI bus 0000:00 |
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| 06:41.52 | grawity | however the "slot" numbers rarely correspond to physical ones |
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| 06:44.34 | pierre365 | so for the network card for example, what does "02.2-[04-08]----00.0-[05-08]--" means? does it means the 4 connection are using the same slot? in anycase, if i got your answer correctly, they all use the same bus (so if my bus is limited to lets say 32Gbps, the maximum speed i can get from my network is 32Gbps, right?) |
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| 06:46.00 | pierre365 | grawity: what i dont understand is, which value of "slot.function" should i read? |
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| 07:33.40 | pragomer_1 | how would you create a system image (like windows-users with acronis for example) of a dmcrypt/luks 200GB debian partition? dd? clonezilla? something else? |
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| 07:38.08 | bmomjian | markybob: how do I increase my SSL grade? |
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| 07:39.09 | bmomjian | I put my intermediate certificates in the same PEM file as my server certificate, but the website checker still says it is an extra download. |
| 07:39.29 | grawity | the checker doesn't care about which files it's in |
| 07:39.38 | grawity | I mean, how would it even know |
| 07:39.58 | grawity | rather, it's complaining that the certificate is there *at all* |
| 07:40.14 | grawity | i.e. your server is sending too many certs |
| 07:40.23 | bmomjian | wow |
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| 07:40.28 | grawity | maybe one of those intermediates is actually a root? |
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| 07:41.13 | bmomjian | I think one might be SHA1 and the other SHA25 |
| 07:41.16 | bmomjian | 256 |
| 07:41.30 | bmomjian | Is SHA1 OK? |
| 07:41.40 | grawity | as in, you have the same cert with two different signatures? |
| 07:41.57 | bmomjian | I think I have the intermediate with two different sha values |
| 07:42.19 | bmomjian | https://knowledge.rapidssl.com/support/ssl-certificate-support/index?page=content&id=AR1549 |
| 07:42.20 | grawity | right so remove the SHA1 one |
| 07:42.32 | bmomjian | I think I moved from SHA1 to SHA256, but kept both certs in there |
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| 07:43.01 | bmomjian | so there is a Sha2 under sha1 root and sha2 under sha2 root; I think I want the later one |
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| 07:44.25 | bmomjian | bummer, same report |
| 07:44.31 | bmomjian | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=momjian.us |
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| 07:57.31 | lxsameer | how can i find out that what executable files does a deb provides |
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| 08:01.57 | grawity | lxsameer: dpkg-deb --contents foo.deb | grep bin |
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| 08:02.31 | lxsameer | grawity, thanks man |
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| 08:03.45 | grawity | bmomjian: I tested with gnutls-cli |
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| 08:03.57 | grawity | bmomjian: the problem is that your cert is issued by "RapidSSL CA G3" |
| 08:04.07 | grawity | bmomjian: but the intermediate you send is "RapidSSL CA G4" |
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| 08:06.06 | grawity | also I guess I was mistaken about what SSLLabs means by "Extra download" |
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| 08:11.08 | bmomjian | oh, OK, I am getting a new certificate this week and will check they match, thanks |
| 08:11.23 | bmomjian | how did you see that? |
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| 08:13.30 | grawity | `gnutls-cli momjian.us` |
| 08:13.35 | grawity | + visual grep |
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| 08:18.37 | jmcnaught | bmomjian: Once you get the certificate straightened out, Mozilla's config generator can be pretty helpful, especially for stuff like SSLCipherSuite https://mozilla.github.io/server-side-tls/ssl-config-generator/ |
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| 08:37.03 | MaBunny | Hey guys im speaking frm my phone while installing debian on my computet |
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| 08:37.53 | MaBunny | I hav used the debian live cd for gnome and while installing ive run into a problem |
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| 08:38.35 | MaBunny | The installer asks me to give a swap space to my hard drive |
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| 08:38.58 | MaBunny | But i dont kno wht or where to do it |
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| 08:39.44 | MaBunny | Should i give the mount point as /swap or is there an option for it??? |
| 08:40.23 | MaBunny | I hav created a 200mb partition for giving swap space |
| 08:40.47 | grawity | swap space doesn't have any mountpoint |
| 08:40.58 | grawity | though, I don't remember what the installer has |
| 08:41.06 | grawity | I think there was a special option? |
| 08:41.08 | Ticho | use "none" in fstab |
| 08:41.26 | MaBunny | No i am in the installer guys |
| 08:41.57 | MaBunny | I mean is there any option in the installer to giv swap space?? |
| 08:42.19 | Ticho | sure, just create a block device for swap |
| 08:42.36 | MaBunny | I hav created one |
| 08:43.10 | MaBunny | But wht do i do to let the installer kno its the swap space |
| 08:43.49 | Ticho | I think it was in the filesystem type choice, or something like that |
| 08:44.08 | MaBunny | I hav used ext4 |
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| 08:44.57 | MaBunny | Also in the root partition do i set the bootable flag to 'on' ??? |
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| 08:46.14 | moozer | the filesystem type must be swap, not ext4 |
| 08:46.35 | MaBunny | Ok |
| 08:46.59 | moozer | Does anyone have suggestion on how to limit nfsd to a specific interface? |
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| 08:47.10 | grawity | iptables >_> |
| 08:47.30 | MaBunny | Should it hav a bootable flag as 'on' ?? |
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| 08:48.27 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: if you are using the entire harddrive, then the installer has a "guided paritioning" feature that sets all of this up for you |
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| 08:49.03 | MaBunny | Well i didnt select tht option |
| 08:49.08 | nikitasius | helloworld! |
| 08:49.09 | MaBunny | My bad |
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| 08:50.06 | moozer | grawity: yes, that was my next move. Most services can bind to specific interface, but apparently not rpc stuff |
| 08:50.13 | MaBunny | Can u guys help me in the right direction, i want to set it up on my own |
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| 08:51.20 | MaBunny | So i guess the root partition has bootable flag as on,right?? |
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| 08:53.43 | MaBunny | Guys?? |
| 08:53.58 | moozer | looking... |
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| 08:54.40 | moozer | I'm in doubt if it is /boot that needs it :-) |
| 08:55.04 | grawity | yes, /boot needs it, / doesn't |
| 08:55.19 | grawity | your BIOS, or EFI, doesn't care about / at all |
| 08:55.21 | MaBunny | All i want to kno is does the root and swap partitions both need bootable flag as 'on'. Pls tell me |
| 08:55.38 | moozer | For me it takes 20 minutes to install debian from scratch, so if this is your fist time - just install whatever, and be prepared to reinstall if you have done something wrong. |
| 08:55.54 | moozer | not swap |
| 08:56.13 | moozer | If you only have swap and root, set root bootable |
| 08:56.46 | MaBunny | Sorry if i provoke someone,but its really my first time i am installing an os on my own |
| 08:57.05 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: you can also go back in the installer, so you could go back and select guided partitioning, and then go back again do manual and see/edit what it has done |
| 08:57.24 | MaBunny | I had it done by the installer earlier,so i wanted to learn something :) |
| 08:57.43 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: if this is your first time you will save time by reading/skimming the install manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 08:58.03 | MaBunny | Thnx :) |
| 08:58.16 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: we often see people in here wasting hours/days through trial and error when they could have just looked at the manual to see how to do it properly |
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| 08:59.08 | MaBunny | Ok thnx for showing me the guide :) |
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| 09:05.39 | Iridos | moozer, fascinating... I thought we had an nfs that only faces inwards... but seems we are relying on iptables |
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| 09:12.46 | Iridos | moozer, heh, I just googled... seems the recommended way is to use LD_PRELOAD ... that might turn out to be a mite little difficult if one uses the in-kernel nfsd, though |
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| 09:21.25 | Iridos | moozer, maybe like http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/centos-fedora-rhel-iptables-open-nfs-server-ports/ |
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| 09:27.48 | moozer | Iridos: my problem is easier - I only want nfs towars my internal virtual machine networks. |
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| 10:47.33 | tako | Hello |
| 10:48.00 | tako | should i install nvidia driver after the bumblebee ? |
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| 10:48.30 | tako | how can i detect my nvidia driver version |
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| 10:52.49 | nkuttler | tako: nvidia-settings |
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| 10:55.15 | tako | nkuttler, with bumblebee its not opening |
| 10:55.38 | nkuttler | tako: apt-cache policy nvidia-driver |
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| 10:57.00 | tako | nvidia-driver: |
| 10:57.00 | tako | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.00 | tako | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.15 | nkuttler | no need to paste that in here |
| 10:57.18 | tako | but my game on steam want to min 350.00 driver |
| 10:57.27 | nkuttler | ,v nvidia-driver |
| 10:57.28 | judd | Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 352.79-1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 352.79-3; sid/non-free: 352.79-4; experimental/non-free: 355.11-2 |
| 10:57.38 | nkuttler | !tell tako about backports |
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| 10:58.06 | tako | nkuttler, if i install new driver from jessie backports its will be work with bumblebee ? |
| 10:59.02 | nkuttler | tako: no idea. backported kernels/drivers can break stuff |
| 10:59.07 | bazhang | ,v nvidia-prime |
| 10:59.08 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-prime' was found in amd64. |
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| 10:59.37 | nkuttler | tako: worse case you just remove them and install the stable ones |
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| 11:09.43 | Deele | hello |
| 11:09.46 | Deele | I have multiple projects residing in my ~/projects directory. I want to create each developer single ftp account, and add one or more subdirectories from ~/projects to accessible directories from ftp account. I'm thinking about some sort of ~/ftp_homes/john directories and put symlinks of ~/projects inside each ftp account inside ~/ftp_homes. I did that, but FTP do not understand symlinks as |
| 11:09.46 | Deele | directories. What should I do? |
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| 11:11.00 | alexbligh1 | I'm seeing an issue upgrading a debian system Squeeze -> Jessie, and Cyrus imapd from 2.2 to 2.4. For reasons related to postfix, packages were left half configured. Now having fixed that, when I try to dpkg --configure cyrus, I see "db5.1_upgrade: /var/lib/cyrus/deliver.db: unrecognized file type". Full output here: http://pastebin.com/98PY7FpP - what do I do now? |
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| 11:17.18 | themill | alexbligh1: are you actually upgrading squeezeâjessie in one step? |
| 11:17.37 | alexbligh1 | themill, sorry, squeeze to wheezy |
| 11:17.42 | Deele | For my problem, does this solution is useful? http://askubuntu.com/a/438886 |
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| 11:32.31 | agemaniac | i have a text file with around 500k urls, and i would like to write another file with those urls that return a status code different than 200, how can i do this? |
| 11:33.23 | agemaniac | i tried to do it in python, but its too slow |
| 11:33.51 | agemaniac | and i know in wget theres an option to do parallel requests.. but thats all i know :s |
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| 11:37.21 | petemc | agemaniac: curl has an option to do parellel connections |
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| 11:38.54 | petemc | agemaniac: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6136022/script-to-get-the-http-status-code-of-a-list-of-urls , some good answers there, particularly third |
| 11:40.28 | agemaniac | thanks petemc :) |
| 11:40.48 | petemc | that uses xargs to do multiple requests |
| 11:41.04 | petemc | it seems i imagined curls inbuilt ability to do it |
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| 11:44.32 | nikitasius | petemc: handy script, nice! |
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| 11:50.17 | zerodrama | bash script is not setting variables |
| 11:50.49 | markybob | zerodrama: might want to ask #bash |
| 11:51.06 | zerodrama | thx |
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| 11:52.14 | MaBunny | Is codeblocks there for debian?? |
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| 11:52.39 | markybob | ,v codeblocks |
| 11:52.40 | judd | Package: codeblocks on amd64 -- wheezy: 10.05-2.1; jessie-backports: 13.12-3.1~bpo8+1; sid: 13.12+dfsg-4; stretch: 13.12+dfsg-4 |
| 11:53.15 | MaBunny | Ok, i can apt-get it but |
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| 11:53.36 | MaBunny | My password(root) is 15 chars long |
| 11:53.51 | MaBunny | How do i write it all? |
| 11:53.54 | kale | hi, i want to disable the ctrl+alt+f8 to jump to that screen. i would expect to do that in /etc/inittab, but cannot find that file. Any hint on how i do that? |
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| 11:54.12 | markybob | MaBunny: i have no idea how that could matter or what you're talking about |
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| 11:54.54 | MaBunny | I mean the sudo request a new pssword everytime b4 i complete writing my password |
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| 11:57.15 | MaBunny | Is there a way to let sudo wait for some moment longer b4 i finish writing my pssword??? |
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| 11:58.56 | ntz | MaBunny: can you elaborate it bit further, maybe some language barrier around the phrase ``sudo request a new pssword everytime b4 i complete writing my password'' |
| 11:59.15 | kale | or in other words: how do i disable vt8 ? |
| 11:59.59 | MaBunny | I think i cant do a lot of work if im unable to complete writing my whole 15 character pssword when i type sudo apt.... |
| 12:00.00 | ntz | kale: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+disable+ctrl%2Balt%2Bfx+sequence&t=opensuse |
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| 12:00.47 | ntz | MaBunny: I have to test it :D ... I never noticed that sudo has no patience |
| 12:01.29 | MaBunny | I mean i type su,then i begin writing my pssword,then b4 im able to write the whole password sudo ask again for the password |
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| 12:01.59 | MaBunny | It goes for 3 times b4 it goes to the command line |
| 12:02.11 | t4nk330 | Hi! Special question relating to ACL |
| 12:02.24 | t4nk330 | mkdir /tmp/testfolder |
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| 12:02.55 | t4nk330 | setfacl -R -m d:u::rwx,d:g::rwx,d::- /tmp/testfolder |
| 12:03.16 | MaBunny | I also couldnt apt-cache search codeblocks,didnt find it in the list |
| 12:03.28 | MaBunny | Maybe it was my fault |
| 12:03.35 | t4nk330 | displaying acl through getfacl /tmp/testfolder displays correct default acl |
| 12:03.48 | kale | ntz: you searched for opensuse on duckgogo for me? |
| 12:03.48 | ntz | MaBunny: you type su and then sudo ??????? |
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| 12:03.59 | t4nk330 | touch /tmp/testfolder/testfile |
| 12:04.00 | ntz | kale: nope |
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| 12:04.14 | t4nk330 | -rw-rw---- 1 root root 0 Mär 2 12:54 testfile <--- why not adapted from default acl?? |
| 12:04.35 | ntz | kale: &t=opensuse means that my client os is suse and not deb |
| 12:04.42 | markybob | MaBunny: the bot told you it's in backports. so you have to follow these instructions to get it in jessie http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 12:05.05 | markybob | MaBunny: and that's not sudo. that's su |
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| 12:05.46 | ntz | MaBunny: show us please which exact command you're trying to run |
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| 12:07.23 | ntz | hmm, waiting already for several minutes: sudo echo haha |
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| 12:07.33 | markybob | yeah i've never had a problem |
| 12:07.45 | ntz | my sudo doesn't kick me that I type passwd too long |
| 12:07.55 | ntz | and I have in this surely default settings |
| 12:08.06 | ntz | testing in 7.9 |
| 12:08.24 | markybob | i don't know how we went from sudo to su, though. i don't know what he's doing. |
| 12:09.12 | t4nk330 | anyone pro with ACL? |
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| 12:09.30 | MaBunny | Srry bad net |
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| 12:09.51 | MaBunny | Can u help me guys??? |
| 12:10.16 | ntz | MaBunny: again, I asked you to show us what command exactly are you typing |
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| 12:11.25 | MaBunny | sudo apt-get install codeblocks |
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| 12:12.16 | MaBunny | It isnt the cmmand,its sudo which is impatient with d pssword |
| 12:12.18 | markybob | MaBunny: did you follow the backports instructions i linked you to so it could actually find codeblocks? |
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| 12:12.36 | markybob | i don't know what to do with that |
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| 12:12.54 | markybob | MaBunny: what's your native tongue? |
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| 12:13.06 | MaBunny | I guess i was logged off whn u gave me |
| 12:13.12 | MaBunny | Bengali |
| 12:13.15 | markybob | MaBunny: the bot told you it's in backports. so you have to follow these instructions to get it in jessie http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 12:13.40 | MaBunny | Ok |
| 12:13.40 | markybob | damn |
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| 12:17.36 | MaBunny | But how do i let sudo wait long enough to let me write my 15 character long password??? |
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| 12:17.55 | markybob | MaBunny: i've never heard of such a thing |
| 12:18.26 | MaBunny | I hav described my problem earlier |
| 12:18.29 | bazhang | MaBunny, how long does it take for you to do that |
| 12:18.30 | markybob | MaBunny: can you su instead of sudo? |
| 12:18.30 | Rephlexie | mabunny, lookup visudo timestamp_timeout ? |
| 12:18.38 | markybob | yes i know |
| 12:18.51 | t4nk330 | when i create a file in a folder that has assigned default acl, why the file does not adapt the acl from the parent target? |
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| 12:19.03 | MaBunny | Guys?? |
| 12:19.05 | bazhang | markybob, is sudo -i supported in debian? |
| 12:19.18 | MaBunny | 6 seconds |
| 12:19.26 | markybob | bazhang: yes |
| 12:19.26 | bazhang | MaBunny, how long |
| 12:19.46 | bazhang | MaBunny, sudo will NOT time out in six seconds |
| 12:19.48 | MaBunny | 6 sec |
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| 12:20.28 | themill | Accidentally hitting Ctrl+J or Ctrl+M there? |
| 12:20.40 | Rephlexie | MaBunny, dont think sudo times out like that as baz said, its something else. |
| 12:20.43 | MaBunny | I type sudo,then i write my pssword,but b4 typing the first 8 letters it asks again for password |
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| 12:21.20 | MaBunny | Then wht can it be,it happened in the earlier non debian system too |
| 12:21.42 | Rephlexie | you add your user via visudo MaBunny ALL=(ALL) etc etc? |
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| 12:21.57 | alphanet | hello |
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| 12:22.25 | anonkun | does doing apt-get install "nvidia-driver' install the nonfree driver ? |
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| 12:22.50 | Billias | I am trying to preseed debian |
| 12:22.52 | Billias | using (not CD-rom) but http:// mirror! |
| 12:22.56 | Billias | i cannot find the proper preseed setting for http mirror |
| 12:22.57 | markybob | anonkun: unfortunately |
| 12:22.59 | MaBunny | Wait |
| 12:23.00 | MaBunny | Ok,wht is the command? |
| 12:23.18 | anonkun | markybob: thanks, but I have no other choice on this hardware. |
| 12:24.07 | markybob | anonkun: before you do it...are you on jessie, stable? |
| 12:24.22 | anonkun | yes |
| 12:24.23 | themill | Billias: mirror settings are in the example-preseed.txt |
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| 12:24.39 | Billias | themill: on repository? |
| 12:24.50 | markybob | anonkun: okay. good luck. |
| 12:25.01 | anonkun | thanks, I dont need to activate backports for this right? |
| 12:25.02 | themill | Billias: that's the documentation for preseeding; https://d-i.debian.org/example-preseed.txt |
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| 12:25.13 | markybob | anonkun: no |
| 12:25.20 | anonkun | okay |
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| 12:27.32 | t4nk330 | problem with default acl. why the newly created file, does not get the acl from parent directory? http://pastebin.com/Sc2B9FLS |
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| 12:31.03 | Billias | themill: I copied the example and still asks for CDro |
| 12:31.23 | MaBunny | Ok guys i typed visudo avra ALL = ALL but it says 'command not found' |
| 12:32.14 | rafalcpp | is it possible to check, regarding the yesterday's attack on SSL, if our server (apache, postfix, dovecot, etc) was compromised (was the key leaked) or was it attacked or anything? |
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| 12:33.34 | themill | Billias: what are you actually doing? |
| 12:33.47 | markybob | rafalcpp: probably not. you did update/restart those services? |
| 12:33.54 | MaBunny | Guys??? |
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| 12:34.31 | markybob | MaBunny: you're talking nonsense. visudo can only be run as root or under sudo. and no one has heard of sudo doing what you're describing |
| 12:34.59 | markybob | MaBunny: plus that visudo command was insane. that's what you put in the file not in the command |
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| 12:40.14 | veek | what's that tool to automount stuff |
| 12:40.38 | veek | usb (not autofs - part of the devfs thingy) |
| 12:40.48 | themill | udisks2 |
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| 12:41.11 | themill | (well, some wrapper around it that your gui will actually use) |
| 12:41.21 | alphanet | I reported a bug on the wheezy-backports kernel 3.16, apparently to src:linux; does that mean that jessie will also get a fix sometime? because the bug is also confirmed on jessie. Or should I do something specific to flag the bug is also on jessie? |
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| 12:46.24 | wdouglass | i want to let non-root users manipulate the iptables firewall in limited ways. my program is setuid, and uses execl to call the iptables binary. even when the program is setuid root, i get this error message |
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| 12:46.30 | wdouglass | iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root) |
| 12:46.38 | wdouglass | what am i missing? |
| 12:46.45 | markybob | root |
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| 12:47.22 | wdouglass | i understand that. I'm trying to let my users open and close a single port. how can I accomplish this without giving my users root? |
| 12:47.23 | MaBunny | I got the solution |
| 12:47.39 | alphanet | wdouglass: your setuid program should do a seteuid(getuid()) or something like this; however you could do it through a clever config of sudo |
| 12:48.03 | alphanet | wdouglass: a setuid program is something generally risky: use sudo instead, with a group limitation and a command limitation |
| 12:48.09 | wdouglass | yea, i've thought about sudo... |
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| 13:09.23 | salviaD | can I still insert my own lines in rc.local, on jessie? Or it is not using this startup script anymore? |
| 13:09.56 | markybob | !rc.local |
| 13:09.56 | dpkg | /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>. |
| 13:10.49 | wdouglass | markybob: haha i was just typing up a very similar explanation to dpkg's...dpkg always seems to know way more then i give it credit for |
| 13:10.54 | salviaD | so yeah, it is still on the game |
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| 13:13.14 | salviaD | in this answer http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/resolv-conf-on-a-read-only-operating-system-4175563602/ , if I am using only ethernet cable, I should add "dhclient eth0" to the rc.local ? |
| 13:13.32 | markybob | salviaD: hell no |
| 13:13.39 | wdouglass | !interfaces |
| 13:13.40 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
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| 13:13.50 | markybob | salviaD: yeah. that ^ |
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| 13:15.18 | salviaD | markybob: but I need resolv.conf to work on a RO fs |
| 13:15.54 | markybob | salviaD: what's your point? |
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| 13:16.06 | wdouglass | make resolv.conf a symbolic link to something in a ramfs? |
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| 13:16.25 | teraflops | !xy |
| 13:16.25 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 13:16.43 | wdouglass | lol |
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| 13:17.21 | salviaD | the system is read only and it gotta work on different lan connections |
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| 13:18.13 | wdouglass | salviaD: https://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot |
| 13:18.27 | markybob | salviaD: how can you edit rc.local but not the interfaces file? |
| 13:18.31 | wdouglass | there's a package for that...use resolveconf |
| 13:18.46 | salviaD | only install the pckg and I am done? |
| 13:18.50 | wdouglass | yup |
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| 13:19.02 | wdouglass | (and set up /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 13:20.35 | teraflops | salviaD: maybe it helps http://chschneider.eu/linux/thin_client/ |
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| 13:20.49 | teraflops | the "...or dinamic part" |
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| 13:28.04 | z8z | How to hide original IP in squid when using http proxy? |
| 13:28.12 | gusgus | hello |
| 13:28.18 | gusgus | !list |
| 13:28.18 | dpkg | gusgus: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 13:29.17 | markybob | z8z: ask #squid |
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| 13:34.46 | Gaijin | wonders what-all needs to be manually configured to get rid of avahi-daemon and what may be possibly required for system upkeep., or at least where to ask a question like this. |
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| 13:35.59 | markybob | Gaijin: i don't have avahi-daemon. i'm fine. |
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| 13:36.28 | masonjar99 | . |
| 13:37.06 | masonjar99 | Hey so im trying to install ubuntu on an empty hdd with no os. I've got a bootable usb stick, and i know the iso used to create it is not corrupted. The error i get when i try to install ubuntu is: "mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device Can not mount /dev/loop0 " |
| 13:37.13 | humbobble | who hates avahi, it's so handy |
| 13:37.23 | markybob | masonjar99: ask #ubuntu it's not supported here |
| 13:37.41 | masonjar99 | they didnt tell me anything |
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| 13:37.52 | markybob | masonjar99: don't care. not supported here |
| 13:37.55 | masonjar99 | Im not asking for an offical answer, just curious if someone knows what the answer might be |
| 13:38.09 | masonjar99 | Take your little nerdy hard ass attitude elsewhere lol |
| 13:38.13 | markybob | !ubuntu |
| 13:38.14 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 13:38.32 | markybob | masonjar99: take your ass elsewhere as it's offtopic |
| 13:38.43 | masonjar99 | haha your pathetic |
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| 13:38.49 | masonjar99 | id kill myself if my life was as shit as yours mate |
| 13:38.49 | humbobble | hmm, i wonder why ubuntu people come here |
| 13:38.50 | markybob | you're* |
| 13:38.59 | asfav | Hi all, I installed debian on my Macbook Pro (mid 2012) last week, rebooted, installed xfce4 and etc did a startx, and it worked fine. Now, after rebooting the PC, it boots but it gives me a black screen only (and the cursor seems frozen) |
| 13:39.00 | masonjar99 | see |
| 13:39.03 | asfav | what could this be? |
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| 13:39.16 | blind | "ubuntu people" don't come here. Impatient entitled people do |
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| 13:39.28 | asfav | I now reinstalled debian, and installed xfce again, did a startx and it works fine, but I am afraid that if I reboot, it will happen the same |
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| 13:39.40 | humbobble | ubuntu docs seem pretty good, generally |
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| 13:41.07 | jaggzt | how do I install a python module in debian? I want to install goocanvas's latest version |
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| 13:41.16 | jaggzt | but there's no pacman, except a game |
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| 13:42.53 | fireba11 | jaggzt: search packages.debian.org if there is a package including the module you want |
| 13:43.01 | humbobble | .v python-pygoocanvas |
| 13:43.16 | humbobble | ,v python-pygoocanvas |
| 13:43.17 | judd | Package: python-pygoocanvas on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.14.1-1+b1; wheezy: 0.14.1-1+b3; jessie: 0.14.1-1+b3; sid: 0.14.1-1.1; stretch: 0.14.1-1.1 |
| 13:43.37 | jaggzt | hm |
| 13:43.47 | humbobble | apt rules :) |
| 13:44.08 | jaggzt | ,checkbackport ocrfeeder |
| 13:44.12 | judd | Backporting package ocrfeeder in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: gir1.2-goocanvas-2.0. |
| 13:44.30 | markybob | jaggzt: i thought we covered this yesterday |
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| 13:44.40 | asfav | I rebooted and it happend the same, hwoever, I disabled lightdm on boot, rebooted, doing a startx works fine, then, doing a systemctl start lightdm, gives me a black screen |
| 13:44.42 | asfav | any idea? |
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| 13:44.45 | Gaijin | sighs, wondering why the `/LIST *network*` command no longer works in irssi. |
| 13:45.02 | jaggzt | markybob, I decided I wanted to see if I could get the latest goocanvas installed itself, with python itself |
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| 13:45.22 | jaggzt | maybe that would work, satisfying the goocanvas needs for ocrfeeder, without needing to go to unstable |
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| 13:48.06 | jaggzt | I should just go to unstable and hope |
| 13:48.20 | jaggzt | dpkg sid? |
| 13:48.20 | dpkg | hmm... sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 13:48.40 | markybob | jaggzt: remember unstable isn't supported here. |
| 13:48.55 | jaggzt | :( |
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| 13:50.30 | jaggzt | #debian-next is invite only |
| 13:50.32 | jaggzt | heh |
| 13:50.47 | markybob | jaggzt: wrong network. it's on irc.oftc.net |
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| 13:51.03 | jaggzt | ohh |
| 13:51.05 | jaggzt | tx |
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| 13:51.37 | asfav | Anyone? |
| 13:52.25 | humbobble | reminds me of the nomodeset issue |
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| 13:52.41 | asfav | but doing a startx from tty works fine |
| 13:52.48 | asfav | lightdm seems to be the issue |
| 13:53.01 | humbobble | ah |
| 13:53.19 | asfav | also xorg.logs doesnt seem to have any errors |
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| 13:54.49 | asfav | lightdm's log gives me CRITICAL *: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion 'session != NULL' failed |
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| 13:56.37 | TomTomTosch | asfav, have you already tried to reconfigure lightdm? |
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| 13:57.06 | asfav | TomTomTosch: yes |
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| 13:58.09 | asfav | it seems that systemctl start lightdm (or manually runnign lightdm) both gives me the same error, black screen + cursor not blinking |
| 13:58.36 | asfav | check bug reports on debian, nothing related |
| 13:59.02 | MrKeuner | hi, Wheezy here: sudo apt-get --reinstall install virtualbox virtualbox-dkms fails. What can I do to fix? |
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| 13:59.28 | MrKeuner | somewhere around /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.18/build/vboxdrv/r0drv/linux/memobj-r0drv-linux.c: In function ârtR0MemObjNativeMapUserâ: |
| 13:59.45 | MrKeuner | error: âVM_RESERVEDâ undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 14:03.56 | asfav | Hmm, this is odd. The same happens with Slim |
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| 14:09.43 | dpkg | hello, d3c0 |
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| 14:10.24 | DoctorD90 | ??? why have I quited? ...bha... |
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| 14:10.56 | DoctorD90 | guys, how may I check if a bin is the same of repo? ...rkhunter warns me about LDD...i would check if it is the same of repos |
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| 14:21.40 | TomTomTosch | DoctorD90, not sure i understood you correctly, but you can use aptitude why-not <pkg> to see with which packages on your system <pkg> conflicts. |
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| 14:22.27 | DoctorD90 | TomTomTosch, i runned rkhunter, it says gives a warn on LDD command |
| 14:22.37 | DoctorD90 | i would check integrity for that command |
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| 14:23.15 | DoctorD90 | this: /usr/bin/ldd [ Warning ] |
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| 14:26.12 | ntz | DoctorD90: rkhunter is ridiculously useless .... if you wish something real that works with better effectivity than say 10%, use something like nessus scan or so |
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| 14:27.19 | humbobble | i guess you could check md5sum of the online package against yours in /var/cache/apt/archives, then compare the files it contains with your installed executable |
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| 14:28.07 | humbobble | it's in libc-bin, which i think has been upgraded recently |
| 14:31.31 | ntz | humbobble: generally said, I would rather listen to toilet voices than to rkhunter .... when rkhunter says that there's some warning on ldd, you can be 98% sure, that everything (except rkhunter) is fine |
| 14:31.45 | TomTomTosch | check is done on install anyway and you need root to change that file. |
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| 14:41.59 | TomTomTosch | DoctorD90, otherwise there is the debsums tool for verification of installed packages. |
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| 14:44.44 | jelly | ntz, DoctorD90: rkhunter (and chkrootkit) and free nessus have loads of false positives, use their results as a guideline. I think rkhunter can be tuned to ignore issues you've verified to be false positive. |
| 14:45.22 | bezaban | rkhunter can be tuned and 'should' be hooked into apt or manually run |
| 14:45.28 | bezaban | after software updates |
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| 14:47.05 | TomTomTosch | DoctorD90, just to answer your initial question, ´debsums libc-bin | grep /usr/bin/ldd´ to test the integrity of that file against the debian repo md5. |
| 14:48.18 | fishxz | hey, should gnome-software work in debian stretch? a few weeks ago i was able to find/install packages over gnome-software, but a few days later everything disappeared, like it was before. |
| 14:48.42 | nkuttler | fishxz: by definition, nothing is suppsed to work in testing |
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| 14:49.02 | nkuttler | !tell fishxz about debian-next |
| 14:49.08 | fishxz | nkuttler: thats why im asking ;) maybe someone can confirm |
| 14:49.20 | fishxz | oh, im sorry |
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| 15:05.07 | jdavila | hi i have this error on my syslog. Mar 1 10:09:01 samba CRON[3078]: Fallo de autenticación . what coud it be? |
| 15:05.58 | blind | Sounds like something samba related you have in a cron job failed to authorize |
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| 15:09.22 | DoctorD90 | ntz as jelly said, it is good to get some check from system....a guideline.... :) and yes, i have aspected some false positive :D |
| 15:09.57 | DoctorD90 | TomTomTosch, thx! probably this was what i was looking for! i go to check :D |
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| 15:11.35 | noid- | jdavila: hay un fallo de autenticacion en samba. Verificate que credenciales esta usando ese CRON |
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| 15:12.08 | jdavila | great |
| 15:12.18 | DoctorD90 | btw TomTomTosch i remember about some command to retrieve info /hash of files inside packages, to get md5 :P |
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| 15:13.41 | jdavila | the problem is that i cant log in the system. and ssh refuse the connection. and i think is because that CRON[3078 |
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| 15:15.03 | noid- | jdavila: samba and ssh use different authentication mechanisms and accounts for that matter. |
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| 15:15.41 | DoctorD90 | btw guys...ok, i will learn about nessus xD ....if you suggest that...i will learn :) thx :) |
| 15:16.27 | jdavila | o right noid- lent me see |
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| 15:36.47 | boycottg00gle | i have a thinkpad x240 with i7 and it looks like on battery the max freq isn't used? any hint? (looks like it is related to intel_pstate but didn't find the faq yet) |
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| 15:41.27 | bumbar_ | i've installed pm-utils on my laptop, but then hibernate stopped working, so i've uninstalled it and still doesn't work; when i put it to hibernate and then turn it on, it doesn't boot properly so i have to restart it, but it boots freshly. i'm using jessie (8.3) with encrypted disk |
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| 15:43.07 | Brigo | bumbar_, go to "Diagnose Shutdown Problems" and try it: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ |
| 15:43.11 | gdot | when copying a file with a longer name from my local (Mate) desktop to a samba share I mounted using "Connect to server" dialogue, the filename gets mangled to something like "ILIG8G~3" at the target. This does not happen when I copy files to the same (!) share mounted via (a quite brief) entry in fstab. Any pointers to what might be the cause/fix here? |
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| 15:45.54 | Brigo | bumbar_, sorry that was for shutdown, not hibernate. try this better: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt |
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| 15:47.28 | zykotick9 | bumbar_: just curious, are you using "systemctl hibernate" to hibernate? also, by "encrypted disk" do you mean encrypted lvm, or home directory encryption (the later breaks hibernate by default)? |
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| 15:47.45 | boycottg00gle | will try intel_pstate=disable |
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| 15:52.58 | bumbar_ | zykotick9, can't remember, i think i've only encrypted home. hibernation was working prior to installing pm-utils. no idea what is calls in background, but i either press shortcut (fn + f1) or shutdown > hibernate in shutdown menu |
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| 15:56.17 | bumbar_ | zykotick9, in dconf manager org.mate.power-manager value for button-suspend=hibernate, if that helps |
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| 16:00.35 | bumbar_ | Brigo, i've tried "# echo reboot > /sys/power/disk # echo disk > /sys/power/state" couple of times, and it works just fine |
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| 16:04.41 | Fitzsimmons | is there a way to configure apt to always use my configuration files instead of the package maintainer's version? |
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| 16:07.32 | malinux- | RoyK: hi |
| 16:07.52 | blind | Fitzsimmons: you can pass along the dpkg options for that, yes |
| 16:08.33 | Fitzsimmons | ah, right |
| 16:08.40 | Fitzsimmons | looks like --force-confold |
| 16:08.44 | RoyK | hi all. I'm helping a friend, malinux-, debug her computer. She did an mkinitramfs to update those, and she extracted it to make sure /sbin/mdadm was there, and it was, but then, when booting on the system, mdadm can't be found, meaning it won't boot (since the root is on a mirror). Any ideas? |
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| 16:09.23 | blind | Fitzsimmons: yeah, the option for apt-get would be: -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold |
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| 16:09.44 | Fitzsimmons | thanks, I'll give that a shot |
| 16:10.40 | thurstylark | Just installed Jessie on a brand new Dell OptiPlex 7040 with an i7 and skylake graphics, and I can't get any graphical session to start. X complains about no screens, and Weston says no drm device found. |
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| 16:14.31 | M4GNV5 | so i have a Samsung RF511 S08 notebook with a Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) wifi however since today i have very high response times even to my own router (google.com mtr: http://i.imgur.com/jWwReVW.png) im running "vanilla" debian 8 64-bit with Gnome 3.14.1 wifi drivers: firmware-brcm80211 (latest). The only thing i changed was installing some updates yesterday. Can someone help me? Tell me if you need the output from some commands |
| 16:14.32 | M4GNV5 | etc. :) |
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| 16:14.40 | M4GNV5 | ahh too long for IRC i assume, sry |
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| 16:15.38 | M4GNV5 | is this even the right channel to ask for networking help? and hi btw |
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| 16:16.59 | karlpinc | M4GNV5: Yup. This is the channel for support on all things Debian. |
| 16:17.10 | karlpinc | M4GNV5: (Well, all things debian stable.) |
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| 16:17.32 | M4GNV5 | k then i hope someone can help me here :) |
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| 16:18.11 | karlpinc | M4GNV5: You may need patience. Installed only debian packages or stuff from elsewhere? |
| 16:18.24 | RoyK | !ask | M4GNV5 |
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| 16:18.54 | karlpinc | RoyK: He did. (Although he didn't say what "high" was.) |
| 16:19.01 | M4GNV5 | karlpinc, uhhm some minor packages like tmate from elsewhere, nothing networking wise though afaik |
| 16:20.04 | karlpinc | M4GNV5: You're going to get in trouble doing things like that. |
| 16:20.14 | karlpinc | !tell M4GNV5 about don't break debian |
| 16:20.16 | RoyK | karlpinc, M4GNV5: sorry, didn't see that |
| 16:20.16 | karlpinc | M4GNV5: This is the wiki page. http://wiki.debian.org/wl http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
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| 16:21.34 | karlpinc | M4GNV5: (Nobody here really wants to look at pictures unless there's any other option.) |
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| 16:22.42 | M4GNV5 | karlpinc, basically it just shows that i have an average ping of 1490ms to my local wifi router |
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| 16:23.35 | M4GNV5 | and regarding the wiki page i already read that and tried the iw reg set thing, installing module-init-tools atm |
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| 16:26.09 | ZeloZelos | a am not new to linux, but have been away for a while. i would like to do an install to usb, not persistence, but an install, with login /password when the key is booted from, did we ever work out a way to do it? |
| 16:26.35 | M4GNV5 | ohh right that just switched my wifi off/on |
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| 16:27.23 | TomTomTosch | M4GNV5, did you check if the brcmsmac module was loaded? |
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| 16:31.56 | karlpinc | ZeloZelos: You can get an image from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/. After that, since a usb stick is writable, you can change the passwords, install packages, or do anything you like. |
| 16:32.25 | ZeloZelos | oh it is? thats exectly what i need thanks karlpinc |
| 16:32.33 | TomTomTosch | M4GNV5, just restarting brcmsmac as the wiki described did not work for me as i still had the wl driver running. had loads of problems with that particular broadcom chipset though. |
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| 16:34.19 | TomTomTosch | M4GNV5, threw it away for an atheros one ;D |
| 16:34.39 | M4GNV5 | TomTomTosch, http://pastebin.com/jxAR1RGA <- lsmod and lspci |
| 16:35.32 | M4GNV5 | is the line "Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge" what it should be? |
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| 16:37.31 | TomTomTosch | M4GNV5, ye, that looks right. the wl driver didn't work for you? |
| 16:39.10 | M4GNV5 | ill try, i guess ill have to remove the other one? |
| 16:39.57 | Iridos | why is rtlwifi also loaded |
| 16:40.04 | TomTomTosch | M4GNV5, you have to unload them. that's step 3 in the wiki. |
| 16:40.56 | TomTomTosch | Iridos, he, didn't even notice that. |
| 16:41.30 | Iridos | M4GNV5, any idea why rtlwifi is also loaded? |
| 16:41.47 | M4GNV5 | haha maybe i should install the new one first before capping my connection lol |
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| 16:42.28 | M4GNV5 | no :D |
| 16:42.31 | Iridos | M4GNV5, maybe wait a bit with that |
| 16:42.35 | binarym | hey, i've a script download on demande netinst ISO from this location : http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:42.40 | binarym | but right now, it's empty |
| 16:42.43 | binarym | any idea ? |
| 16:42.52 | Iridos | M4GNV5, have you checked dmesg? |
| 16:42.55 | M4GNV5 | test123 |
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| 16:43.32 | M4GNV5 | Iridos, thats pretty long, what should i search for? |
| 16:43.53 | Iridos | also /var/log/messages |
| 16:44.08 | Iridos | well, lots and lots of repeating network-related errors of any kind would be a clue |
| 16:44.46 | M4GNV5 | ok nvm wl works, got an average of 13ms to my router now |
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| 16:44.58 | Iridos | else I'd try to unload all possible wifi kernel modules and then look at the messages you get when you re-load it |
| 16:45.01 | M4GNV5 | ty all of you karlpinc TomTomTosch Iridos :) |
| 16:45.33 | Iridos | did you reboot the machine for that? |
| 16:45.44 | M4GNV5 | nope |
| 16:46.02 | M4GNV5 | just followed the installation steps of the wl debian wiki page |
| 16:46.35 | Iridos | hm, but so the rtlwifi stuff is still loaded |
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| 16:47.40 | M4GNV5 | should i unload it? whats so bad about having it? |
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| 16:48.10 | RoyK | hi all. I'm helping a friend, malinux-, debug her computer. She did an mkinitramfs to update those, and she extracted it to make sure /sbin/mdadm was there, and it was, but then, when booting on the system, mdadm can't be found, meaning it won't boot (since the root is on a mirror). Any ideas? |
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| 16:51.05 | karlpinc | binarym: The netinstall images are linked to from the debian.org home page.... |
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| 16:51.43 | karlpinc | RoyK: Boot from an install image in rescue mode. Then, "update-initramfs -u". |
| 16:51.55 | RoyK | karlpinc: been tried a few times |
| 16:52.09 | binarym | karlpinc: sure, but i liked the "current" URL that allowed me to fetch the last one with just a lftp -e 'glob get *netinst*.iso; exit' http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:52.20 | binarym | looks just like current link hasn't been updated |
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| 16:52.25 | thurstylark | Alrighty, so I got my Skylake box working with Weston by updating to the 4.3 kernel, but X is still complaining about no screens. Can anyone advise? |
| 16:52.49 | karlpinc | binarym: Would that be for unstable? Maybe that's why it's gone. |
| 16:52.57 | TomTomTosch | M4GNV5, it could create conflicts. who knows what those non-free drivers do. i would remove them and think about why they are there in the first place :P |
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| 16:53.47 | binarym | karlpinc: ok |
| 16:53.47 | binarym | thx |
| 16:54.34 | RoyK | karlpinc: the problem is - if we unpack the initramfs and look inside, everything looks normal, but mdadm is missing in the (initramfs) prompt after bootup |
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| 16:57.38 | karlpinc | RoyK: Means to me you're not loading the initramfs you think you're loading. Look in the bootloader config. |
| 16:58.51 | karlpinc | thurstylark: Do you have a config file for X? Do you need one? If not, move what you have out of the way and see if X can autoconfig. Otherwise, you'll probably have to pastebin your X log. |
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| 17:00.07 | malinux- | karlpinc: the computer RoyK is talking about is mine, and we have executed upate-initramfs -u and same problem occure |
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| 17:02.45 | thurstylark | karlpinc: /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist. I don't know if I need one or not, but it's a brand new install, and my goal is just to get x to launch something and I don't care what it is at the moment. |
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| 17:10.07 | MaBunny | Guys i want to get codeblocks,i hav added a repo to sources.list but it doesnt work |
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| 17:11.51 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny can you post your sources.list to http://paste.debian.net/ please? |
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| 17:12.15 | MaBunny | Im on smartphone guys |
| 17:12.19 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, you did try to install from jessie-backports, right? |
| 17:12.30 | MaBunny | No |
| 17:12.51 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, two things wrong with this then. |
| 17:12.54 | MaBunny | I dont kno wht command to write |
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| 17:13.08 | morbid_ape | hi everyone burn all jews in oven |
| 17:13.08 | MaBunny | Pls tell |
| 17:13.09 | morbid_ape | daeth to infidels |
| 17:13.16 | morbid_ape | only muslims have a right to live |
| 17:13.18 | morbid_ape | ALLAHU AKHBAR |
| 17:13.20 | thurstylark | !ops |
| 17:13.21 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 17:13.27 | morbid_ape | allahu akhbar! |
| 17:13.30 | morbid_ape | i throw stones to jews |
| 17:13.46 | thurstylark | dpkg: ops morbid_ape spam |
| 17:13.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: thurstylark complains about: morbid_ape spam |
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| 17:13.53 | MaBunny | Im trying to reload my sourves.list in synaptic |
| 17:14.05 | MaBunny | Tht was horrible |
| 17:14.09 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, how can i help you if you are not at your machine and you should not install anything from non-debian sources. codeblocks is in jessie-backports. |
| 17:14.11 | thurstylark | abrotman: sorry for the extra ping :P |
| 17:14.27 | abrotman | it's fine, we only get pinged for the one with our nicks |
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| 17:14.57 | MaBunny | I dont even hav a irc client on my debian,srry for inconvenience |
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| 17:15.10 | MaBunny | I just installed it today |
| 17:15.21 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, install one. i want to see your sources.lost :P |
| 17:15.33 | TomTomTosch | s/sources.lost/sources.list |
| 17:15.48 | MaBunny | Which one? I mean irc client |
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| 17:16.24 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny hexchat is popular i think. |
| 17:17.51 | MaBunny | Wait im searching on synaptic |
| 17:19.46 | thurstylark | shameless plug for weechat :) |
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| 17:20.16 | TomTomTosch | heh, i use weechat too, but you have to know some commands :P |
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| 17:20.45 | MaBunny | Its says broken packages |
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| 17:21.49 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 17:23.35 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, reading that will save you from another reinstall in the future. |
| 17:23.59 | MaBunny | Ok tom,it says i hav to download a lot of packages |
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| 17:24.19 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, stop doing anything for now. |
| 17:24.51 | MaBunny | Why |
| 17:25.01 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, post your sources.list to paste.debian.net and type the url into the chat. |
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| 17:27.27 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, the content of /etc/apt/sources.list that is. |
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| 17:29.14 | MaBunny | Ok im taking a picture of it |
| 17:29.33 | jeeves_moss | how do I see what device tree overlays are loaded? |
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| 17:32.13 | karlpinc | MaBunny: Nobody really wants to look at a picture. |
| 17:33.32 | karlpinc | !tell MaBunny about mark and paste |
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| 17:34.35 | MaBunny | Ok can i type wht ive written?? |
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| 17:35.16 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, i have no idea what you want to tell us :P |
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| 17:35.42 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, just show us the damn file ;D |
| 17:35.53 | MaBunny | Its this : " deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main" |
| 17:35.54 | MaBunny | And one for sid too |
| 17:36.19 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, nvm then. |
| 17:36.35 | TomTomTosch | !tell MaBunny about frankendebian |
| 17:37.17 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny, read what the bot told you, read the wiki link i gave you, understand what that means, reinstall your system and try to not break it again. |
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| 17:38.37 | edoardo | Is dhclient supposed to eat all my ram? |
| 17:38.59 | edoardo | 5.7% of ram usage from ps aux, freshly installed jessie |
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| 17:40.08 | dontknow | edoardo, how much ram? |
| 17:40.25 | TomTomTosch | killed the bunny again. |
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| 17:43.02 | edoardo | dontknow: How do i check? |
| 17:43.34 | dontknow | edoardo, how much ram do you have? |
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| 17:44.20 | TomTomTosch | i distinctly remember that MaBunny was here before and got the same dontbreakdebian speech... ah well... |
| 17:44.29 | edoardo | dontknow: heh, 128mb |
| 17:44.56 | noid- | edoardo: cat /proc/meminfo |head -1 |
| 17:45.10 | edoardo | MemTotal: 119252 kB |
| 17:45.19 | noid- | wow |
| 17:45.32 | noid- | I feel that you are from the past~ |
| 17:45.36 | edoardo | It's a cheap kvm machine i just got |
| 17:45.42 | dontknow | edoardo, i guess it is normal then. it eats 7 MB ram |
| 17:45.51 | edoardo | Like... for 5$ a year |
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| 17:46.00 | noid- | o I see |
| 17:46.13 | noid- | then like don't know says, it should be normal.. |
| 17:46.23 | noid- | probably dies down after a while |
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| 17:47.45 | edoardo | If i set my network to be static, can i stop using dhclient or is it essential? |
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| 17:49.12 | dontknow | edoardo, as far as i know, it sets your internal ip address. so it wouldn't be necessary |
| 17:49.21 | dontknow | i guess |
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| 17:50.16 | edoardo | i guess i can just copy my current ethernet config i got with dhcp to /etc/network |
| 17:50.25 | edoardo | but then how would i disable dhclient properly? |
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| 17:51.40 | TomTomTosch | edoardo, you prob have a dhcp entry in /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 17:51.53 | edoardo | Indeed |
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| 17:52.41 | TomTomTosch | you could change that to static for example. then he should not try to do a dhcp discover. |
| 17:52.53 | edoardo | Yep, doing it right now. I'll then reboot and see what happens |
| 17:53.06 | TomTomTosch | that a vps? |
| 17:53.07 | greycat | You'll have to down/up the interface to kill off the existing dhcp client daemon. |
| 17:53.13 | edoardo | Yes it is |
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| 17:53.36 | Akimoto | "that a vps" penny drops |
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| 17:56.45 | TomTomTosch | edoardo, is there nothing important on this machine and do you have tools to reset it? |
| 17:56.55 | edoardo | TomTomTosch: Yes and yes |
| 17:57.02 | edoardo | It's just a box i got to play with |
| 17:57.09 | edoardo | Probably gonna run some telegram bots on it, nothing else |
| 17:57.34 | TomTomTosch | edoardo, ah well, then go ahead :3 |
| 17:58.06 | edoardo | Since it's a kvm i can also boot from systemrescuecd and fix it if something goes wrong |
| 17:58.14 | edoardo | And i also can reset the network from solusvm |
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| 17:59.54 | edoardo | Is gateway and broadcast the same thing? |
| 18:01.10 | markybob | no |
| 18:01.14 | edoardo | Nice |
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| 18:05.22 | edoardo | Networking lesson #1: never ifdown the interface you're connected to |
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| 18:05.44 | TomTomTosch | x) |
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| 18:06.28 | TomTomTosch | something about cutting the branch you are sitting on :P |
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| 18:07.47 | jmd | I want to upgrade from 7 to 8 tonight. Any precautions I should take? |
| 18:07.57 | jmd | (yes I have read the release notes) |
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| 18:08.16 | markybob | jmd: apache going to shit is the main thing |
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| 18:08.33 | jmd | Hmm. |
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| 18:08.54 | markybob | jmd: that's in the upgrade guide |
| 18:09.06 | markybob | !tell jmd about wheezy->jessie |
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| 18:09.29 | jdavila | TomTomTosch, that is a error from the 8 network layer. |
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| 18:10.33 | jmd | And then of course there is the bizarre new replacement for the sysvinit |
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| 18:11.07 | TomTomTosch | jdavila, yeye, pebkac and all that :P |
| 18:11.14 | markybob | jmd: systemd upgrade was pretty painless here |
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| 18:11.54 | jmd | Yeah, but I heard that the problems come later when one wishes to do the tiniest of customisation. |
| 18:12.26 | markybob | jmd: it can be a pain in the ass, sure. so can flossing |
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| 18:12.55 | jmd | Anyway I cannot see apache mentioned anywhere in that upgrade guide. |
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| 18:13.40 | markybob | jmd: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat |
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| 18:17.50 | jmd | If all goes to plan, this will be my last ever debian upgrade... |
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| 18:22.28 | markybob | jmd: will you be dying soon? |
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| 18:24.01 | Kobaz | jmd: switching to slackware? |
| 18:24.19 | Kobaz | what's that package that emails you when you have security-vulnerable packages installed |
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| 18:30.53 | jmd | Kobaz: Nah I switched from Slackware to Debian about 15 years ago. |
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| 18:32.27 | Drizt | slackware 1.0 was my first linux distro |
| 18:32.44 | Drizt | didnt get xwindows to work back then |
| 18:32.55 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 18:32.56 | jdavila | :') |
| 18:33.02 | Kobaz | so anyway |
| 18:33.06 | Kobaz | security alerts for packages? |
| 18:33.08 | Kobaz | i used to have it? |
| 18:33.11 | jmd | Drizt: That would be because there is not and never was such a thing as "xwindows" |
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| 18:33.19 | Drizt | X? |
| 18:33.26 | jmd | or X11 |
| 18:33.35 | jmd | or maybe X10 back then. |
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| 18:33.39 | markybob | Kobaz: apticron |
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| 18:36.12 | Kobaz | yay |
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| 18:37.12 | grawity | jmd: XFree86? |
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| 18:37.44 | jmd | grawity: That is (was) one vendor's implementation of X, yes. |
| 18:38.16 | Drizt | then there was gnome kde unity |
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| 18:38.40 | markybob | this is getting silly. back on /topic |
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| 18:39.54 | jmd | There was also debian gnu unity in those days too. |
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| 18:42.12 | grawity | none of which are implementations of X though |
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| 18:45.38 | ZodoTurtle | I have the nVidia drivers compiled and installed from nVidia's website. Was a pain but at least it is working. I can play my games and stream again. Nouveau is still broken. |
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| 18:46.29 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: your system is now unsupported |
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| 18:46.59 | Drizt | markybob: you dont know what graphics card he has |
| 18:47.28 | markybob | Drizt: that's irrelevant. installing direct from nvidia is not supported |
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| 18:49.28 | ZodoTurtle | markybob: I don't care. nouveau is NOT support! I tried. It doesn't work. It is absolute crap. Nice try, possibly getting better. but it still isn't ready. Still doesn't work. At least it hasn't worked every time I attempted. |
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| 18:49.55 | ZodoTurtle | I don't know if it is nouveau or the new KMS thing. Either way. It doesn't work. |
| 18:49.57 | markybob | ZodoTurtle: that's fine. debian packages nvidia's proprietary drivers. those are supported |
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| 18:50.41 | SPF | hmm, dist-upgrade did not update kernel? |
| 18:50.45 | ZodoTurtle | markybob: I read that those are going away. Kind of hard to consider something supported if it disappears. |
| 18:51.20 | markybob | SPF: from what to what? |
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| 18:51.34 | SPF | 6.0 to 7.0 |
| 18:51.42 | markybob | SPF: did you reboot? |
| 18:51.46 | SPF | yes |
| 18:51.50 | SPF | and then it got stuck |
| 18:52.05 | markybob | SPF: what does that mean? |
| 18:52.13 | SPF | black screen |
| 18:52.26 | SPF | after grub |
| 18:52.28 | markybob | SPF: are you in it now? got it fixed? |
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| 18:52.34 | SPF | in grub I still see the old kernel |
| 18:52.48 | SPF | I used iso to chroot |
| 18:53.01 | jmd | Anyone have any bright ideas about backup solutions without speding $$$$ |
| 18:53.03 | SPF | now figuring out how to install a new kernel |
| 18:53.43 | Drizt | jmd: gnome commander |
| 18:54.05 | jmd | Huh? |
| 18:54.26 | Drizt | its a simple file managment utility |
| 18:54.28 | Walakea | does anyone have an idea what can make my HDD suddenly be 7 °C hotter than usual? i am doing the same things as before (iceweasel, qtox, deadbeef) |
| 18:55.05 | SPF | I managed to create resolv.conf, but now during installation it gives a lot of errors |
| 18:55.06 | jmd | Walakea: 14 °C rise in the ambient temperature. |
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| 18:55.23 | SPF | like modules dep requires mounted sysfs on /sys |
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| 18:58.41 | SPF | seems I needed the kernel-headers package as well, now it's continuing (I hope) |
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| 19:02.02 | SPF | still the same error |
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| 19:03.24 | SPF | solved it outside chroot with bind -o /sys /mnt/sys |
| 19:03.45 | MrTrump | how do I stop postgresql from being updated again? |
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| 19:03.51 | MrTrump | Qa is concered |
| 19:03.59 | MrTrump | about debian updates blasting thier work |
| 19:04.22 | MrTrump | someone mentioned "pinning" |
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| 19:05.26 | greycat | You want "hold" not "pin". |
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| 19:06.15 | babilen | MrTrump: You should be aware that this means that you won't get security upgrades (which you probably are) |
| 19:06.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell MrTrump about hold |
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| 19:18.27 | MrTrump | :( |
| 19:18.40 | MrTrump | how in debian7 do I see if apache2 will start on bootup? |
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| 19:22.22 | hitlin37 | could someone dig xulrunner 1.9.28 deb build for armel? i didn't manged to find it |
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| 19:33.03 | jmd | I really wish after all these years, a debian dist-upgrade would not be so interactive. It's worse than Windows! |
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| 19:36.18 | hexnewbie | jmd: You should be glad you're using Debian, and not Gentoo. At least the upgrades go quick, but if you had one question asked every few hours, you wouldn't even be able to watch a film and upgrade at the same time |
| 19:37.13 | hexnewbie | jmd: If your Debian upgrades are too slow, Konsole has an inactivity monitor that will pop a notification whenever the upgrade terminal is no longer processing |
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| 19:38.05 | jmd | hexnewbie: I'm thinking of moving to guix where there is no need of "upgrades" - you just install whatever version(s) of whatever you need. |
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| 19:38.29 | gutleib | Hi. I have a problem with jessie network/interfaces. config works well for single eth, but when I try to make 802.3ad bond it ignores config in all peculiar manners... First it ignored the 802.3ad part, and I relocated config to /etc/modprobe.d/bonding.conf as was suggested in some ubuntu bug workaround. But now it ignores ip config now! I am a bit |
| 19:38.29 | gutleib | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.47 | faultline | gutleib: I can help you there. |
| 19:38.55 | faultline | gutleib: Pastebin your interfaces file for me? |
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| 19:39.28 | faultline | gutleib: And also the relevant portions of your switch configuration for those interfaces. |
| 19:39.30 | MrTrump | How would I tell if someone had set apache2 to not start on boot, and how would I enable start on boot? |
| 19:39.33 | gutleib | yep, I'll just rollback my patient... |
| 19:39.37 | hexnewbie | jmd: I hope that doesn't work the way you described it, because that way it sounds like a security nightmare. |
| 19:40.43 | philipp | hi, is it possible to pull the source of a package in a specific version using apt-get source? |
| 19:41.11 | faultline | gutleib: Also, do you have the ifenslave package installed? |
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| 19:41.32 | towo` | if the version of the binary is avialable with apt-cache policy, yes |
| 19:41.58 | gutleib | faultline: the switch works fine |
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| 19:42.45 | gutleib | faultline: when i Configure the bond manually, it works fine |
| 19:43.07 | faultline | gutleib: Just asking. |
| 19:43.21 | gutleib | faultline: like 'ifconfig bond0 x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x' |
| 19:43.33 | faultline | gutleib: After all, LACP requires switch-side support, so it seems relevant. |
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| 19:43.42 | gutleib | faultline: ifenslave-2.6 |
| 19:43.43 | faultline | gutleib: network/interfaces? |
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| 19:43.59 | gutleib | faultline: yep, a sec |
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| 19:44.17 | faultline | gutleib: Also, strictly speaking, that package is a transitional one. You should be using "ifenslave". |
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| 19:48.21 | gutleib | faultline: it's a bit messy, but there it is http://pastebin.com/wi7mu8JM |
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| 19:48.54 | edoardo | Cool |
| 19:49.10 | edoardo | This 128mb kvm can actually compile python without exploding to pieces |
| 19:49.28 | awal1 | Any privacy/security concrens using weather plugins/extensions? I'm using 'xmobar' and enabled weather plugin/feature. |
| 19:49.38 | awal1 | concerns ^ |
| 19:49.45 | gutleib | faultline: also, /etc/modprobe.d/bonding.conf contains "options bonding mode=802.3ad miimon=100 lacp_rate=1 updelau=100 downdelay=100" |
| 19:49.46 | faultline | gutleib: You don't need any physical interface stanzas in jessie. If you add them, things blow up. |
| 19:50.08 | faultline | gutleib: Remove your changes to modprobe.d/bonding.conf, first off. |
| 19:50.15 | jmcnaught | MrTrump: "systemctl is-enabled apache2" and "systemctl enable apache2" |
| 19:50.28 | faultline | gutleib: Also, your netmask is... quite off. |
| 19:50.28 | gutleib | than it falls back to balance-rr |
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| 19:50.41 | faultline | gutleib: As is your gateway. I'll show you how to configure it. |
| 19:50.56 | gutleib | faultline: darn! now i see it |
| 19:51.33 | gutleib | faultline: that part with mask/gw is a plain mistake |
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| 19:51.36 | MrTrump | debian 7 my good man!! |
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| 19:52.22 | jmcnaught | MrTrump: Okay. Read "man update-rc.d" and https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon |
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| 19:52.31 | greycat | MrTrump: It's a strange question to ask. I guess my answer would be "How did you think you disabled it? Check for that." |
| 19:52.37 | faultline | gutleib: http://pastebin.centos.org/40696/ |
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| 19:53.04 | faultline | gutleib: Remove all physical interface configuration for bond members, remove your custmoizations to bonding.conf. That's all you'll need. |
| 19:53.39 | greycat | MrTrump: The #debian answer to "How do I disable startup of foo" (pre-jessie) was always "apt-get remove foo", so I guess you can check whether /usr/sbin/foo exists? |
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| 19:53.57 | julius | hi |
| 19:54.49 | gutleib | faultline: ok, wow, that's... elegant |
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| 19:55.04 | gutleib | faultline: gone pasting |
| 19:55.11 | julius | https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&arch=any&mode=path&searchon=contents&keywords=menu.c32 says that menu.c32 should be in: /usr/lib/syslinux/menu.c32 when syslinux-common is installed, which is the case. but the file isnt there? |
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| 19:56.17 | faultline | gutleib: Example (my own server): http://pastebin.centos.org/40701/ |
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| 19:57.37 | joobcode | anyone point me to docs or search term for connecting incoming ssh connections to a ttysX |
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| 19:58.11 | jmcnaught | MrTrump: or are you trying to figure out why Apache will not start? |
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| 20:00.43 | gutleib | faultline: seems OK! guess I should sleep more, that netmask/gw error made me blush |
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| 20:01.35 | Teddy-B | Good Day All, I'm having an issue with a Jessie Install, With Konqueror, complaining about libraries for dolphinpart.so, I have tried purging and re-installing both. looks like a bug by my searching, issue with update of dolphin4? was considering a complete re-install of the system. but the core ISO's haven't been updated since Febuary's GlibC Vulnerability was released. so re-installing and updateing will likely break the system aga |
| 20:01.36 | Teddy-B | in. is there a KNOWN fix for this? |
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| 20:04.21 | faultline | gutleib: You can verify the current operating state of your LAG via /proc/net/bonding/bond0 |
| 20:07.01 | gutleib | faultline yes, that's how I found system brought up balance-rr instead of 802.3ad bond0 |
| 20:07.13 | faultline | gutleib: Good now, though? |
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| 20:07.49 | gutleib | faultline: yes, thank you! that was very helpful of you! |
| 20:08.30 | faultline | gutleib: Cool. :) https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt That documentation will explain why the Ubuntu-style of configuration broke you. |
| 20:08.32 | Teddy-B | actually, looking at the error again, it also complains about libgl.so, which is most likely the issue as I have yet to solve an issue with my graphics driver as well. I went to multiple screens, and the system puts out to them in clone mode, but doesn't see the secondary monitors |
| 20:08.45 | faultline | gutleib: Upstart processes network/interfaces differently than systemd. |
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| 20:12.28 | jim | do systemd and upstart use ifup/ifdown? |
| 20:13.01 | faultline | jim: I'm not certain as to why they're processed differently, to be honest. |
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| 20:15.13 | jim | any idea of what the difference is? (aka how they process) |
| 20:15.33 | jim | faultline, thanks for response btw |
| 20:15.59 | faultline | jim: Behaviorally, individual physical interfaces have to be specified and assigned to a bond interface under upstart, whereas with systemd, it's enough to specify them as bond-slave in the bond stanza. |
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| 20:16.45 | faultline | jim: Strangely, under upstart, the bond-slave parameter must be set to "none" on an upstart system, or the bond will fail to assemble. |
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| 20:17.54 | jim | oh I see, so there is a configuration difference at least |
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| 20:18.50 | faultline | jim: http://paste.debian.net/411144/ |
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| 20:19.47 | faultline | jim: Those are otherwise functionally-identical bond configurations between jessie and Ubuntu trusty. |
| 20:20.17 | jim | wow, thanks! |
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| 20:20.47 | faultline | jim: Attempting to use each configuration style on the other system will make the network stack go o.O huh? |
| 20:20.56 | faultline | jim: Sure thing. |
| 20:21.11 | hanasaki | how do you clear the dns cache so the new entry will be fetched from the ISP where the record was updated? |
| 20:21.45 | jim | hanasaki, restart the dns? |
| 20:21.57 | hanasaki | tried restarting bind |
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| 20:22.34 | teraflops | hanasaki: unless you explicitly run a dns cache you do not have a dns cache |
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| 20:22.55 | teraflops | so, if you dont just try to pick other dns servers |
| 20:23.15 | faultline | hanasaki: What's the issue you're trying to solve? |
| 20:23.25 | faultline | hanasaki: DNS change isn't propagating, that kind of thing? |
| 20:23.50 | teraflops | hanasaki: but i bet your isp dns do caching |
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| 20:24.01 | hanasaki | teraflops: like resolvconf and ncsd? |
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| 20:24.11 | faultline | All DNS is cached. That's why TTLs exist. |
| 20:24.17 | hanasaki | resolves fine of google 8.8.8.8 |
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| 20:24.21 | teraflops | faultline: not in his machine |
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| 20:24.39 | faultline | teraflops: Rephrased: All DNS servers cache responses. |
| 20:24.43 | teraflops | unless he explicitly run unbound anf thisgs like that |
| 20:24.54 | hanasaki | teraflops: what is unbound? |
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| 20:25.02 | teraflops | faultline: nope |
| 20:25.17 | hanasaki | teraflops: the dns did propogate because it resolves OK directly from google servers and the isp servers. just not on my server |
| 20:25.23 | teraflops | faultline: you know what I mean, so if you want to argue it's ok |
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| 20:25.41 | hanasaki | prefers to be productive over arguing |
| 20:25.42 | teraflops | hanasaki: that's what i said |
| 20:25.47 | faultline | teraflops: Don't be a dick. |
| 20:26.06 | teraflops | faultline: oh I see |
| 20:26.35 | hanasaki | teraflops: since it resolves ok off external servers directly it must be cached on my server and I need to manually expire it |
| 20:26.40 | hanasaki | negative cache |
| 20:26.41 | faultline | hanasaki: Your ISP may be using nameservers upstream from its own resolver whose cached responses may not have yet expired. |
| 20:27.01 | teraflops | hanasaki: "your server" is? |
| 20:27.16 | faultline | hanasaki: At any rate, somewhere in this process is a cached record that's causing you problems. |
| 20:27.26 | Malinux | http://imgur.com/Y7m6jNU <<-- trying reinstalling debian. however. i get this message. Don't know what to do. Could it be the installer it self it claming about? |
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| 20:27.31 | teraflops | faultline: that's exactly what I said .... |
| 20:27.35 | hanasaki | faultline: my dns server is set to resolve off google's if it fails locally. and a manual resolve directly to googl works |
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| 20:28.29 | faultline | hanasaki: Are you running your own DNS server internally? |
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| 20:28.36 | hanasaki | faultline: yes. |
| 20:28.39 | Malinux | the installer-usb-stick is on sda, however, I tried to install grub to /dev/sdd as it is one of my root-disks |
| 20:28.42 | hanasaki | faultline: my dns server is set to resolve off google's if it fails locally. and a manual resolve directly to googl works |
| 20:28.42 | faultline | hanasaki: Ah, I was ambiguous on that point. BIND? |
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| 20:28.49 | hanasaki | bind9 |
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| 20:28.55 | faultline | hanasaki: Tried an "rndc flush?" |
| 20:29.11 | hanasaki | what package contains rndc? |
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| 20:29.49 | faultline | bind9utils, I think. |
| 20:30.27 | hanasaki | yes |
| 20:30.36 | hanasaki | faultline: yes - no change |
| 20:30.40 | hanasaki | hrs ago |
| 20:31.07 | faultline | You just asked me what package contained it. If you tried it hours ago, then you would have already known you had it installed. |
| 20:31.18 | NGq | I'm having issues running a LibreOffice basic macro that was working a bit ago. Now it is simply giving me the same error on a few lines. I need an answer soon and the libreoffice irc chaneels are quite at the moment. |
| 20:31.28 | NGq | channels* |
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| 20:31.47 | faultline | hanasaki: I assume you ran that command on the bind server system itself. |
| 20:31.58 | hanasaki | yes. locally |
| 20:32.17 | faultline | You have a tendency to respond ambiguously. Locally on the DNS server itself? |
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| 20:35.58 | teraflops | hanasaki: if you setup forwarders to dns' that not resolve your new records yet, restarting/refreshing is useless |
| 20:36.13 | jmcnaught | Malinux: There are some more details about this here: https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#Force_grub-efi_installation_to_the_removable_media_path |
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| 20:36.55 | jmcnaught | Malinux: it's not talking about the USB stick the installer is on, it's talking about some UEFI jargon |
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| 20:37.39 | hanasaki | teraflops: where to check forwards |
| 20:37.40 | hanasaki | ? |
| 20:38.03 | teraflops | hanasaki: you run your own bind, right' |
| 20:38.06 | teraflops | ? |
| 20:38.30 | hanasaki | yes. been awhile since I touched it :) forwards are commented out as in the original default |
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| 20:38.43 | teraflops | maybe here /etc/bind/named.conf.options |
| 20:38.44 | Malinux | jmcnaught: okey. I tried to choose no, and the box booted, so well, it works anyway :) |
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| 20:39.39 | jmcnaught | Malinux: it's there as a fallback options for folks with broken UEFI (quite common apparently), but it can also prevent booting other OSs that are already installed. If you don't need it, all is good |
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| 20:40.39 | RippyDippy | Hey guys, any idea how to assign handle lid close to hibernate? |
| 20:40.39 | Malinux | jmcnaught: okey. Don't think I'll need it :) |
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| 20:41.44 | SynrG | RippyDippy: /etc/systemd/logind.conf has a lid action |
| 20:42.01 | RippyDippy | SynrG: Ive done that. HandleLidSwitch=hibernate |
| 20:42.11 | RippyDippy | but it isn't hibernating :/ |
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| 20:42.29 | teraflops | RippyDippy: restarted systemd-logind? |
| 20:42.45 | SynrG | And you have swap space at least as big as your RAM? |
| 20:42.50 | RippyDippy | teraflops: Restarted the entire machine |
| 20:42.53 | teraflops | heh |
| 20:42.59 | SynrG | i.e. hibernate otherwise works |
| 20:43.02 | RippyDippy | SynrG: OOoooo That could be it. |
| 20:43.20 | RippyDippy | SynrG: Actually no. I've hybernated by automatically choosing it from the aciton buttons. |
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| 20:43.27 | hanasaki | teraflops: yes I run my own bind. and the forward section is commented out |
| 20:43.34 | RippyDippy | SynrG: So I doubt thats my issue |
| 20:43.43 | teraflops | hanasaki: ok |
| 20:43.44 | SynrG | Nevertheless you need that |
| 20:43.57 | SynrG | Otherwise it can't be reliable i don't think |
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| 20:44.25 | RippyDippy | SynrG: Yeah that might be true. Im trying to figure out how to lock encryption without powering off on lid close |
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| 20:45.40 | teraflops | RippyDippy: did you take a look at journalctl? |
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| 20:46.43 | teraflops | as in close the lid, wait, wait, wait, open the lid and grep journalctl for useful information |
| 20:47.26 | RippyDippy | SynrG: Well I do have a swap the size of my RAM 20G encrypted swap. |
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| 20:48.38 | SynrG | OK |
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| 20:49.23 | hanasaki | anyone know a good development lapto? works with kde and gnome and touchscreen 4k touch screen / 802.11ac / 24 or 32GB or more RAM . big SSD |
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| 20:55.39 | MrTrump | can aptitude be used all the time? |
| 20:55.46 | MrTrump | or are there times apt-get is needed? |
| 20:56.07 | MrTrump | i ask because I want to hold some packages and I noticed someone sent me info about aptitude hold |
| 20:56.17 | MrTrump | which apt-get aparently ignores |
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| 21:03.31 | Brigo | MrTrump, apt-get should not ignore hold packages. |
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| 21:04.01 | nkuttler | MrTrump: they share a database for such data, unless you run an ancient release |
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| 21:04.58 | towo` | Brigo, aptitude holds will be for sure ignored by apt |
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| 21:05.49 | nkuttler | towo`: huh? sure? |
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| 21:07.34 | enoch85 | anyone that are good with networks? I had a network failure some days ago, and I managed to fix so that port 443 works, but something is still wrong as port 80 won't work. When I run netstat I can only see the port 80 on ipv6 and it should work as I have Listen 80 in ports.conf, but no success. Please help. |
| 21:07.36 | nkuttler | towo`: certainly not |
| 21:07.45 | mi11k1 | Hey can somebody give me a hand with this? Http://paste.debian.net/411149/ |
| 21:07.46 | mi11k1 | I have an old ThinkPad and I'm trying to get lirc to work and am getting this error. |
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| 21:10.20 | Amun_Ra | towo`: apt won't ignore aptitude holds |
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| 21:10.53 | karlpinc | MrTrump: I also am under the impression that aptitude and apt-get use different mechanisims for "hold". Everything else I know got unified, but not that for some reason. Anyway, yes, you can use aptitude for everything. The one exception is upgrading to the next stable release. For that you must do whatever the release notes say. Sometimes one or the other is used for major upgrades. |
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| 21:11.22 | karlpinc | MrTrump: I've not tested how the 2 work with "hold" though. |
| 21:11.31 | Amun_Ra | karlpinc: your impression is, unfortunatelly, wrong |
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| 21:11.40 | mi11k1 | haaaha |
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| 21:12.29 | karlpinc | Amun_Ra: When did this change? |
| 21:12.54 | Amun_Ra | karlpinc: well, tbh I did a test in testing, so it really should be #debian-next answer |
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| 21:13.36 | Amun_Ra | let me test it on oldstable |
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| 21:14.13 | karlpinc | Amun_Ra: It's not true in wheezy. See: Note that aptitude uses a different method for registering packages that are on hold than apt-get and dselect. In: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 21:15.13 | karlpinc | Amun_Ra: It's really nice to see this fixed in testing. |
| 21:15.43 | Amun_Ra | karlpinc: I've tested it in oldstable and you're right - aptitude uses different hold mechanism than apt and wajig in oldstable |
| 21:16.09 | karlpinc | Amun_Ra: The exciting answer will be regards stable. :) |
| 21:16.35 | jmcnaught | apt-get ignores aptitude holds for me in jessie: http://paste.debian.net/411154/ |
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| 21:16.46 | paludo | Hey guys, I was having problems with shutdowns hanging from time to time, not sure what was causing. So, I was advised to upgrade my kernel to jessie's backport ... well I did that, but it still hanging. I'm using a external usb mouse plugged in, someone here said that might be the problem, wouldn't it always hang then? What you guys think? |
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| 21:17.44 | karlpinc | jmcnaught: Yay! |
| 21:17.48 | Amun_Ra | yes, I've tested it in stable and it's the same as in oldstable |
| 21:17.56 | Iridos | jmcnaught, yes, they are different holds... apparently still |
| 21:17.59 | greycat | paludo: what is the exact symptom? Where does it get stuck? |
| 21:18.00 | Amun_Ra | hides under rock ;) |
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| 21:18.26 | Iridos | dpkg, tell jmcnaught about hold |
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| 21:18.48 | karlpinc | Amun_Ra: Your tests must be different from jmcnaught. His paste shows an aptitude hold working with apt-get. ? |
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| 21:19.04 | jmcnaught | Iridos: thanks, i was just testing and providing an example related to the discussion |
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| 21:19.19 | jmcnaught | karlpinc: i used aptitude hold on the perl package, which apt-get still wanted to upgrade |
| 21:19.41 | Iridos | jmcnaught, ah, the danger of jumping in without reading an hour of backlog :) |
| 21:19.45 | jmcnaught | that's with "aptitude hold". holds made with "apt-mark hold" are held back in both |
| 21:19.59 | alison_ | hello. I am running jessie with backports kernel and nvidia-legacy-340xx. All good except when I suspend, it seems to work but then immediately resumes. Then it comes back with no video signal. |
| 21:20.03 | Amun_Ra | karlpinc: my tests regarding jessie are the same as jmcnaught's |
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| 21:21.12 | Iridos | jmcnaught, have you tested with hold, if any the new "apt" comand honors/ignores? :) |
| 21:21.29 | paludo | greycat: so with the 3.16 kernel this message came up (removing quiet from grub) "xhci_hcd <bunch of numbers> can't derive routing for PCI INT A" |
| 21:21.36 | karlpinc | Amun_Ra: Bug #137771 says fixed in jessie. This is the "hold" bug. |
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| 21:21.50 | greycat | paludo: Totally different from mine, then :-/ |
| 21:21.59 | karlpinc | *Agh!* _Not_ fixed in jessie. Fixed in testing. |
| 21:22.15 | jmcnaught | holds made with apt-mark hold seem to be respected by apt-get, aptitude and apt: http://paste.debian.net/411159/ |
| 21:22.22 | greycat | ,bug 137771 |
| 21:22.23 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/137771 in aptitude (closed, confirmed): «aptitude: holds should take effect in /var/lib/dpkg/status as well»; severity: important; opened: 2002-03-11; last modified: 2015-11-15. |
| 21:22.40 | jmcnaught | maybe dpkg's hold factoid should be updated? |
| 21:22.47 | greycat | Hey, it's only 14 years old, don't rush them! |
| 21:23.20 | paludo | greycat: what are you getting? |
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| 21:23.32 | karlpinc | jmcnaught: Probably should not update it until next release. It has the bug number in it for testing users. |
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| 21:23.34 | __316k__ | Hi, I'm having trouble with unexpected shutdowns systematically after a shot period, I checked the kern.log file, and found out that "temperature (254 C) hit the shutdown threshold" (which is just absurd, acpi -t gives me around 40.0 degrees C). Any idea what could be causing this ? |
| 21:24.03 | greycat | paludo: mine is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788303 |
| 21:24.04 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/788303 in systemd (open): «systemd: Hangs indefinitely on >90% of reboot attempts»; severity: important; opened: 2015-06-10; last modified: 2016-01-15. |
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| 21:25.59 | jmcnaught | karlpinc: i mean perhaps the factoid could be updated to mention "apt-mark hold" which is respected by all three on stable |
| 21:26.39 | Iridos | karlpinc, oh dear... just reading the bug and... "> Would it not be best if it behaved like> apt-get, ie. reading information from /var/lib/dpkg/status? (Answer) No, it wouldn't. dselect's states are not in general equivalent to aptitude's, although they're similar." aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 21:26.53 | paludo | greycat: with the backports' kernel too? Does you computer have graphics card? I thought it could be related, I have an optimus laptop |
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| 21:27.32 | karlpinc | jmcnaught: I updated dpkg to note when fixed. |
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| 21:27.38 | greycat | paludo: if your symptom involves an *hci message, then I'm absolutely positive it's NOT related to mine, which involves very specifically the failure to swapoff a swap partition correctly |
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| 21:28.22 | karlpinc | Iridos: Why "no"? What's the distinction? (I only ever use aptitude's hold.) |
| 21:29.00 | karlpinc | Iridos: (Could it possibly have taken so long to fix because they did it right?) |
| 21:29.03 | Iridos | karlpinc, this is all quoted from the bug... the "No" is from Daniel Burrows, who apparently develops apt |
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| 21:29.25 | paludo | greycat: mine works fine most of the time |
| 21:29.26 | Iridos | that's earlyish into the bug, though |
| 21:29.52 | Asuran | does debian offer at installation complete desktop packages which includes for example network mananger? |
| 21:29.52 | karlpinc | Iridos: OMG! It's systemd all over again! ;-) |
| 21:30.09 | greycat | Asuran: yes |
| 21:30.22 | Asuran | thanks greycat |
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| 21:30.36 | Asuran | i hope debian is still good linux, much other fails me... |
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| 21:30.56 | Asuran | i tried now sabayon, opensuse and dont really want ubuntu back except if only choice |
| 21:32.21 | Iridos | karlpinc, well.. it's one of too many examples, where it seems a 100% clear and obvious what is wrong and what is right and a developer or even all developers think different... like recently the infamous browser-bar, which you cannot use unix-like middle-moues-button paste on when it's full, because it autoselects and or... dunno, I guess the whole gnome-shell thing of removing buttons ... lots of examples |
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| 21:36.10 | ZodoTurtle | so, Um, Yeah. I'm an IT sysadmin. Sure, that's a little redundant. Anyhow. Apparently, I was in such a hurry to get my home system up and running that I failed to install one very important package. The one package that I always install on any Linux system I install. |
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| 21:36.55 | ZodoTurtle | openssh |
| 21:37.20 | noid- | ouch |
| 21:37.25 | noid- | sudo apt-get install openssh-server ? |
| 21:37.47 | greycat | after he drives back home, sure |
| 21:37.48 | ZodoTurtle | noid-: I'm not at home. So, I can't reach the system to do ANYTHING right now. :( |
| 21:37.54 | noid- | awwww |
| 21:37.55 | noid- | gee whiz |
| 21:37.56 | noid- | :( |
| 21:38.25 | greycat | checks on his own home box, finds it unreponsive again. This is so fucking obnoxious. |
| 21:39.18 | karlpinc | Asuran: Since you're new to debian you might find this helpful: |
| 21:39.26 | karlpinc | !tell Asuran about don't break debian |
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| 21:39.55 | Brigo | ZodoTurtle, do you expect one of us install go to your home and install it for you? :D |
| 21:39.58 | karlpinc | Iridos: Just skimmed the bug and seem to have thought it through. |
| 21:40.16 | Iridos | judd, versions aptitude |
| 21:40.17 | judd | Package: aptitude on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1; wheezy: 0.6.8.2-1; jessie: 0.6.11-1+b1; stretch: 0.7.5-3; sid: 0.7.7-1 |
| 21:40.25 | ZodoTurtle | Brigo: Nope. Not asking for help. Just sharing the realization of my derp. I'll be home in a few hours. |
| 21:40.36 | Iridos | hmm, so 0.7.2-1 is supposed to have it fixed |
| 21:40.55 | Brigo | ZodoTurtle, ok :D |
| 21:41.10 | noid- | I'll do it for beer |
| 21:41.19 | noid- | wait, where are you from? |
| 21:41.20 | karlpinc | Iridos: Yeah. The little incomprehensible graphic in the upper right becomes comprehensible when you click on it. |
| 21:41.27 | Iridos | I'm not really using holds much (at all) but there's an itch now to backport aptitude to be rid of the bug |
| 21:42.12 | karlpinc | Iridos: I tend to hold the kernel and glibc and let other things update automatically. |
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| 21:42.29 | Asuran | ah thanks seems to be useful karlpinc |
| 21:42.31 | greycat | My stupid home computer randomly freezes up, every 1 to 30 days. No pattern to it at all. Can happen while I'm just moving the mouse. |
| 21:42.46 | Iridos | I'm not holding anything... probably because of no need. But possibly, because holds were effin broken |
| 21:42.50 | Asuran | especially the part about compiling not as root |
| 21:42.57 | karlpinc | Asuran: You might also look at the <overview> factoid then. |
| 21:43.02 | Iridos | greycat, netconsole? |
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| 21:43.40 | greycat | Iridos: I don't even know what that is. When I say freezes, I mean *hard*. Total hardware freeze. Motherboard. Not even the caps lock light on the keyboard will work. |
| 21:43.45 | karlpinc | greycat: My stupid home computer freezes up when the temperature drops. I've given up trying to figure out why. |
| 21:43.54 | karlpinc | greycat: Mine segfaults. |
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| 21:45.12 | ZodoTurtle | To whom it may concern, Nouveau drivers have serious problems with my GTX 760 video card. |
| 21:45.14 | Iridos | greycat, we have a netconsole factoid that describes how to set it up... other than serial console it only needs the computer to be connected to wired ethernet and a 2nd computer in the same net... both are requirements I found a lot easier than getting whatever serial console needs... and it may just print some error in the last second before it dies that helps show the reason |
| 21:45.59 | markybob | that was random |
| 21:46.10 | greycat | Iridos: I can't imagine the computer has a chance to notice a problem and emit any kind of dying scream. I've watched it happen, literally just while sitting there innocently moving the mouse as I said. |
| 21:46.36 | greycat | One microsecond, it's fine. The next, nothing is happening on the screen. At all. |
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| 21:46.56 | greycat | The image is still THERE, usually, but is not being updated. Except one time it went totally white. |
| 21:47.04 | karlpinc | greycat: Might as well go all the way and get a usb to serial converter and do a serial console. The hardware is just a few bucks. |
| 21:47.08 | Iridos | maybe... you don't know for sure if you don't try, though. it might be spewing into dmesg for a whole second before it freezes |
| 21:47.25 | karlpinc | greycat: That's what I see when I get a segfault. But the actual console shows "stuff". |
| 21:47.40 | karlpinc | greycat: My gui just freezes. |
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| 21:48.22 | greycat | grep -vE '(2160|1080|720|480|360)p' |
| 21:48.26 | greycat | gah, wrong channel |
| 21:48.37 | jhutchins | greycat: Have you played with SysRq at all? |
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| 21:48.58 | karlpinc | (I think my problem is either network or graphic activity.) |
| 21:49.11 | karlpinc | jhutchins: Yeah, that's a quick approach. |
| 21:49.12 | jhutchins | greycat: Although if numlock is dead it's unlikely to listen to sysrq. |
| 21:49.18 | greycat | jhutchins: No. As I said, the whole *keyboard* loses functionality. The caps lock light won't light when I press caps lock, which is my first and best indicator that the machine is frozen. |
| 21:49.47 | jhutchins | greycat: Yeah, and that sounds like a hardware freeze. |
| 21:50.01 | jhutchins | greycat: Clean case, reseat all cards and cables. |
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| 21:51.44 | karlpinc | greycat: Purchase newbox. Dip old in molten metal and leave for future archaeologists to resolve. ;-) |
| 21:52.00 | greycat | Yes, eventually that will be the answer. |
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| 21:54.54 | julius | hi |
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| 21:55.06 | jercos | bronze is traditional for confusion archaeologists, yes? |
| 21:55.56 | jercos | julius: [sparc, ia64, s390] |
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| 21:57.07 | julius | im following this howto: https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/how-to-build-a-debian-livecd/ to build a livecd, one step is to copy menu.c32 to the cd. but i got 3 versions of menu.c32, one in efi64/ one in efi32/ and one in bios, which one do i copy for a 64bit livecd? |
| 21:57.29 | jercos | julius: the BIOS one is most likely |
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| 21:57.37 | julius | ok, lets try |
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| 21:58.34 | karlpinc | jul!tell julius about debian-live |
| 21:59.10 | karlpinc | julius: You might be better off following whatever the official instructions are than following some random blog post.... |
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| 22:02.06 | Fahrradkette | Hey guys, I'm running jessie/xfce4 and want to use libmtp 1.1.11 (version according to the libmtp guys) in the file manager (Thunar I believe). Is there a right way to replace my current libmtp library? |
| 22:03.12 | Iridos | the short answer is probably "no" |
| 22:03.21 | Iridos | judd, versions libmtp |
| 22:03.21 | jercos | Fahrradkette: if there's perfect ABI compatibiulity, sure. If not, you'd have to recompile thunar as well. |
| 22:03.22 | judd | No package named 'libmtp' was found in amd64. |
| 22:03.49 | markybob | Fahrradkette: you can have 1.1.10 from backports |
| 22:03.54 | Iridos | judd, versions libmtp-common |
| 22:03.55 | judd | Package: libmtp-common on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.1.3-35-g0ece104-5; wheezy-backports: 1.1.8-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.1.8-1; jessie-backports: 1.1.10-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.10-2; sid: 1.1.10-2 |
| 22:03.56 | markybob | ,v libmtp-runtime |
| 22:03.57 | judd | Package: libmtp-runtime on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.1.3-35-g0ece104-5; wheezy-backports: 1.1.8-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.1.8-1+b1; jessie-backports: 1.1.10-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.10-2; sid: 1.1.10-2 |
| 22:04.14 | Iridos | tee hee |
| 22:04.16 | julius | karlpinc, could be |
| 22:04.16 | Fahrradkette | I need 1.1.11 since my android device is fairly new |
| 22:04.38 | julius | karlpinc, just getting qemu to test |
| 22:04.45 | markybob | Fahrradkette: then you're on your own |
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| 22:05.24 | Fahrradkette | could I run 2 different versions, i.e. just get some cli functionality running? |
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| 22:07.49 | Iridos | Fahrradkette, you can wait until it's at least in sid... or make your own package |
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| 22:08.30 | Fahrradkette | guess so |
| 22:08.46 | Iridos | but... apt-rdepends -r libmtp9 shows a hell lot of stuff that is linked against the runtime library |
| 22:09.13 | Iridos | that may be a good way to break a lot of programs in one go |
| 22:09.26 | humbobble | mtp still exists? |
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| 22:09.57 | Iridos | Fahrradkette, there are programs like uupdate to help updating an existing package with new source. Can't remember that I've used it, though... |
| 22:09.57 | Asuran | judd, versions calligra |
| 22:09.58 | judd | Package: calligra on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:2.4.4-3; jessie: 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1; sid: 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1.2 |
| 22:10.18 | Fahrradkette | mby I could figure out on how to add my device to the current version |
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| 22:10.39 | Iridos | maybe |
| 22:10.41 | Fahrradkette | cba going down the dependency hell |
| 22:11.02 | Iridos | Fahrradkette, I think I would build the library separately in /usr/local ... |
| 22:11.30 | Iridos | at least I guess in the end you need mainly /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmtp.so.9.x.x? |
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| 22:12.54 | Iridos | hmm, maybe I don't understand too well how that works |
| 22:13.16 | Iridos | I don't see that thunar would be linked against libmtp.so.9 |
| 22:13.54 | Fahrradkette | it's just a guess since the device showed up in thunar |
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| 22:14.07 | Iridos | mmh |
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| 22:14.13 | Iridos | I hardly ever use filemanagers |
| 22:14.42 | Iridos | and not mtp for some qears now, I think |
| 22:15.14 | Iridos | even android phones now appear as just a harddisk |
| 22:15.25 | Iridos | the 90ies re-invented |
| 22:15.41 | Iridos | hometime |
| 22:15.59 | Fahrradkette | omg |
| 22:16.07 | Fahrradkette | just figured thunar did it for me |
| 22:16.33 | Fahrradkette | had to unlock the screen, it's prolly really mounted as a harddisk |
| 22:17.03 | alison_ | hello. I am running jessie with backports kernel and nvidia-legacy-340xx. All good except when I suspend, it seems to work but then immediately resumes. |
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| 22:17.20 | Fahrradkette | thanks for the effort Iridos, I appreciate it:) |
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| 22:22.11 | awal1 | How to supervise cpu, ram... usage of X process (single process? ) |
| 22:22.46 | jercos | top? |
| 22:22.51 | jercos | how do you mean supervise? |
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| 22:23.41 | jercos | top -p <pid> will let you observe a single process' usage, but won't help if you're looking to apply limits. |
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| 22:24.16 | awal1 | yeah, top, htop and similar packages do the job but I want have ram, cpu... usage information of only 1 process (iceweasel, for example) not all my system |
| 22:24.18 | julius | karlpinc, there was a little error in it, but now the iso boots |
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| 22:24.58 | awal1 | jercos, top -p pid may be what I'm looking for . ok, thanks |
| 22:25.39 | jercos | np :) |
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| 22:27.46 | awal1 | jercos, "top -p pidnumber", does the job:) thanks |
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| 22:33.42 | awal1 | Looking for nice 'xmobar' config files. Any one using xmobar and wanna share its config file (paste.debian.net) |
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| 22:34.24 | awal1 | I have a nice 1, but looking for something probably better (bcuz i'm not really familiar with hasksel stuff) |
| 22:35.02 | stratum | is the proper way of spoofing wifi MAC address in /etc/network/interfaces the same as with wired? hwaddress ether? |
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| 22:35.15 | stratum | it seemingly gets ignored in my case |
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| 22:38.43 | axc1298 | stratum: i just used apt-cache search and found macchanger. you might want to try that |
| 22:38.58 | stratum | i know about that, but thanks |
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| 22:41.13 | teraflops | awal1: I just do dzen2, xmobar is easy though, just google for xmonad/xmobar dotfiles |
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| 22:44.14 | dimitry7 | hi guys! |
| 22:44.14 | dimitry7 | i need help backing up 20TB of information |
| 22:44.14 | dimitry7 | What are your recommendations? |
| 22:44.14 | dimitry7 | This backup has to be reliable and Linux Debian compatible. |
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| 22:44.27 | ToHellWithGA | i don't remember the order of precedence between .bashrc .bash_profile .profile and .screenrc |
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| 22:45.35 | ToHellWithGA | 4 lines constitutes a flood? wow. |
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| 22:47.29 | fishxz | any advices for a atheros wifi adapter? my ping is rly unstable from time to time. its like a lag for 1-2 seconds every 1-2 mins. |
| 22:47.39 | fishxz | on windows i have zero problems. |
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| 22:50.59 | suexec_ | I am trying to resize a partition. resize2fs /dev/xvda1 45G . Gives error: The containing partition (or device) is only 1243648 (4k) blocks. . cfdisk on /dev/xvda says there is 45G free space on the device. |
| 22:51.04 | suexec_ | What am I doing wrong ? |
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| 22:58.13 | ToHellWithGA | suexec_: do it have to be done via CLI? gParted is pretty nice. |
| 22:58.22 | ToHellWithGA | s/do it /does it / |
| 22:58.50 | suexec_ | Server does not have gui :( I am trying to boot the gParted live cd, but it's not doing its thing |
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| 23:06.59 | faultline | suexec_: What is the present partition table of the disk? |
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| 23:08.44 | suexec_ | I think maybe I managed to get it going :) |
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| 23:22.11 | tharkun | I'm having some isues mounting a 1TB hdd on Debian 8.3 as a regular user it is using ntfs-3g but I'm kind of lost since I can easily mount a 750GB volumen. |
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| 23:25.12 | nkuttler | tharkun: well what's the error |
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| 23:28.35 | tharkun | rror opening '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied |
| 23:28.35 | tharkun | Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied |
| 23:28.35 | tharkun | Please check '/dev/sdb1' and the ntfs-3g binary permissions, |
| 23:28.35 | tharkun | and the mounting user ID. More explanation is provided at |
| 23:28.35 | tharkun | http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged |
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| 23:28.49 | tharkun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:29.45 | r6ku | !paste |
| 23:29.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 23:29.55 | tharkun | r6ku: :) |
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| 23:34.12 | tharkun | Also If I wanted an external 1TB hdd what would be my fs of choice? |
| 23:35.04 | EvergreenTree | I am installing debian jessie on my laptop, and I have encountered an issue with wireless firmware |
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| 23:35.26 | EvergreenTree | The installer asks me to download the missing firmware to a usb stick, and insert it so it can automatically detect whati t needs to install |
| 23:35.45 | EvergreenTree | So I follow the instructions at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en |
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| 23:36.10 | EvergreenTree | and when I insert the prepared usb stick and press the "yes" button (load missing firmware from removable media) |
| 23:36.22 | EvergreenTree | it hangs a second, and goes back to the same dialog box |
| 23:36.23 | tharkun | !enter |
| 23:36.23 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 23:36.43 | EvergreenTree | Sorry, I didn't want to trigger the flood bot |
| 23:37.00 | markybob | EvergreenTree: it's much easier to use the installer with firmware built-in. you do nothing and it just works. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 23:37.08 | r6ku | ^ |
| 23:37.47 | EvergreenTree | I'll try that |
| 23:37.54 | tharkun | EvergreenTree: Make sure you have the appropiate files on your usb, it should be as smooth as the other options. |
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| 23:38.30 | EvergreenTree | I do, I checked and it needs the broadcom 43 firmware, which is on the usb stick. |
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| 23:39.00 | markybob | EvergreenTree: the iso i linked you to has that already. |
| 23:39.18 | EvergreenTree | I realize that, I was just answering tharkun. |
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| 23:40.59 | EvergreenTree | Thanks for helping! I'll let you know if the image with the included firmware works for me. |
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| 23:43.26 | awal1 | teraflops, googled xmonad/xmobar of course but I still looking...I'm interested on 'dzen2' too (I have it installed but never used it). Can you share your dzen2 config file? (paste.debian.net) |
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| 23:44.14 | EvergreenTree | markybob: the netinstall image also asks me for the missing firmware |
| 23:44.55 | markybob | EvergreenTree: did you seriously just download it and forget to cp it to the device or something? it's included |
| 23:45.11 | EvergreenTree | I'll check |
| 23:46.45 | EvergreenTree | Yeah, it is the net install image |
| 23:47.25 | markybob | i can't even |
| 23:47.29 | EvergreenTree | I can even find the package for the b43 firmware on the flash drive, it just isn't seeming to recognize it's there |
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| 23:48.45 | EvergreenTree | If it helps at all (it probably won't) the laptop is a Dell Latitude E6400 |
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| 23:50.28 | tharkun | EvergreenTree: If you are using the regular installer over an ethernet cable you can wait to finish installing the OS and then set up the wifi card. |
| 23:50.37 | tharkun | Sorry got a phonecall earlier. |
| 23:50.52 | teraflops | awal1: hmm a bunch of files calling files, the dzen2 part is http://ix.io/oLm though |
| 23:50.59 | EvergreenTree | I don't have access to connect to the router directly |
| 23:51.39 | EvergreenTree | At least, I don't at this moment. I might wait until I can access it to install the appropriate wireless packages |
| 23:51.48 | EvergreenTree | Still, it is rather annoying |
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| 23:52.23 | EvergreenTree | I'll try it over ethernet when I can and ask here if anything goes wrong |
| 23:52.33 | EvergreenTree | Thanks for your help though |
| 23:52.37 | tharkun | gl |
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| 23:56.29 | awal1 | teraflops, ok, I'll look at that link |
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