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| 00:38.07 | [BNC]dimitry7 | hey guys |
| 00:38.11 | [BNC]dimitry7 | what does this error mean? via eth0: network 192.168.1.0/24: no free leases |
| 00:38.45 | npo | [BNC]dimitry7: did you try refreshing your dhcp? |
| 00:39.25 | [BNC]dimitry7 | npo, nop, do I ? |
| 00:39.56 | npo | [BNC]dimitry7: that sounds like a dhcp lease was expired |
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| 00:40.11 | [BNC]dimitry7 | npo, I restarted dhcp now but didn't work |
| 00:40.16 | [BNC]dimitry7 | yeah, what can I do? |
| 00:40.30 | npo | oh hmm |
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| 00:41.20 | npo | its giving you the same error? |
| 00:42.07 | markybob | you could restart your router and try again |
| 00:42.19 | npo | ^ |
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| 00:42.32 | npo | the problem definitely seems to be related to dhcp in some way |
| 00:43.52 | [BNC]dimitry7 | marko, i restarted the service |
| 00:43.57 | [BNC]dimitry7 | npo, yeah |
| 00:44.07 | [BNC]dimitry7 | guys |
| 00:44.09 | [BNC]dimitry7 | i gotta go |
| 00:44.19 | [BNC]dimitry7 | let's check it tomorrow, thank you and good night! |
| 00:46.36 | npo | good night |
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| 00:47.26 | trickshotjohnny | so, partman question. I have a partman config that does ext3 until I upgrade my netboot kernel to 3.16 instead of 3.2 |
| 00:47.30 | trickshotjohnny | this is on wheezy |
| 00:47.46 | trickshotjohnny | but when I upgrade the kernel, it only formats ext4 and will not honor the config. |
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| 01:18.11 | mykhailyk | is Debian Linux an Operating System? Or it's just a 'build' of Linux kernel ? |
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| 01:19.59 | nevyn | mykhailyk: Debian GNU/Linux is an Operating system |
| 01:20.07 | markybob | mykhailyk: debian's website says it pretty well. it runs not only linux, but kFreeBSD and Hurd |
| 01:20.42 | RoyK | iirc kfreebsd and hurd are out in the cold after jessie |
| 01:20.43 | markybob | mykhailyk: thus the universal operating system title |
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| 01:21.01 | markybob | they've kinda always been behind |
| 01:21.29 | RoyK | anyway - debian is an OS - not k kernel |
| 01:21.36 | RoyK | not *a* kernel |
| 01:21.53 | RoyK | nevyn: just try it in a vm or something |
| 01:23.00 | henryk | hurd's wiki page says a lot about how popular Debian GNU/Hurd is ;D https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/Hurd |
| 01:23.17 | nevyn | RoyK: ? |
| 01:23.29 | markybob | henryk: that wasn't the question |
| 01:23.42 | RoyK | nevyn: just try it - you'll learn a bit |
| 01:24.02 | RoyK | sorry ;) |
| 01:24.08 | npo | p9 |
| 01:24.25 | RoyK | mykhailyk: just try debian on an old machine or in a vm - you may learn a bit |
| 01:24.31 | nevyn | ah. |
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| 01:25.49 | RoyK | mykhailyk: I'd say, try the x64 (or x86) version first to get used to it - then - if you like it, perhaps try some other variants |
| 01:28.12 | RoyK | mykhailyk: debian is just a distro like every other linux distros - they all have their focuses, targets etc. some are quite cutting edge, as with ubuntu. some are more conservative, like rhel/centos and debian. the choice beetween them is usually about taste |
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| 01:31.26 | RoyK | mykhailyk: I prefer debian on my servers, it's stable and sufficiently modern, and ubuntu on desktop, since it has more new stuff, although not the part all are tested that well, but then again, that doesn't matter that much on a desktop |
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| 01:32.23 | RoyK | if we start a distro war here, it'll run until some midnight, somewhere on the globe, and forward until someone start banning people |
| 01:34.08 | mykhailyk | idk, i just wanted to understand whether i can call debian an OS or not |
| 01:34.41 | markybob | mykhailyk: yes it's an OS. just not "only" linux |
| 01:34.42 | mykhailyk | because some guys have told me that OS is a Linux kernel only |
| 01:35.12 | RoyK | mykhailyk: linux is a kernel |
| 01:35.21 | Alexandrov | yes, Linux is a kernel. |
| 01:35.30 | Alexandrov | a UNIX-like kernel. |
| 01:35.32 | RoyK | mykhailyk: debian, redhat, slackware, ubuntu, whatever, uses linux |
| 01:35.38 | RoyK | mykhailyk: android uses linux |
| 01:35.45 | RoyK | mykhailyk: most tv sets uses linux |
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| 01:36.02 | Alexandrov | my car radio is using Linux too |
| 01:36.14 | Alexandrov | Idk what it is called, radio or something but with LCD |
| 01:36.20 | RoyK | probably a bunch of cars run on linux |
| 01:36.22 | Alexandrov | it uses Linux |
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| 01:37.34 | RoyK | mykhailyk: in the land of linux, there's a distinct difference between userspace and kernel space, as opposed to most other operating systems, so even though your phone runs android, it's still linux based |
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| 01:38.33 | RoyK | mykhailyk: actually, most little gadgets around with sufficient cpu/memory run linux these days |
| 01:39.26 | RoyK | mykhailyk: since there's no point of reinventing the wheel, or pay someone for some OS |
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| 01:39.59 | zykotick9 | sees the above converstion, from his FSF-friendly viewpoint, and smiles :) |
| 01:40.36 | Alexandrov | RoyK, why there are so many distros? |
| 01:40.44 | RoyK | some stuff uses BSD things, though |
| 01:40.57 | markybob | Alexandrov: why are there so many candy types? |
| 01:41.08 | Alexandrov | Many flavours of course. |
| 01:41.14 | RoyK | nothing wrong with that - for some uses it can be better - freebsd firewalling can be better for some - the license is more open etc |
| 01:41.18 | markybob | Alexandrov: yeah. there you go. |
| 01:41.19 | Alexandrov | Okay now I get it. |
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| 01:42.12 | Alexandrov | but most of the distros are built based on Ubuntu, why not we´re just using Ubuntu or Debian? |
| 01:42.21 | Alexandrov | *were built based |
| 01:42.30 | markybob | Alexandrov: no, most are based on debian, not ubuntu. |
| 01:42.30 | RoyK | Alexandrov: https://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 01:42.59 | markybob | Alexandrov: and then you have things like arch, redhat, gentoo, etc, which are completely different |
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| 01:43.12 | Alexandrov | hahaha ¨standard¨ matters |
| 01:43.15 | henryk | mykhailyk, the OS is made up of many parts. one of which is the kernel, which is linux. the kernel is mostly there to manage resources. on its own the kernel is not very useful. GNU provides a collection of software that make linux somewhat of an operating system. Debian GNU/Lunux builds on top of GNU and Linux to create a feature rich and flexible OS with easy tools to install and manage software. |
| 01:43.29 | Alexandrov | I see. |
| 01:43.59 | Alexandrov | I see. |
| 01:44.10 | RoyK | linux distros differ mostly in where htey stor configuration files, and the version of software they includ |
| 01:44.15 | RoyK | that's it, really |
| 01:44.42 | RoyK | (sorry for the spelling, it's late) |
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| 01:44.47 | markybob | not even close. managing debian vs gentoo vs arch is very different |
| 01:45.11 | RoyK | not really |
| 01:45.13 | zykotick9 | RoyK: i'd say that's a gross misinterpretations of the differences between distros... |
| 01:45.19 | markybob | throw redhat in there and you're fucked |
| 01:45.37 | RoyK | I'm managing several distros concurrently at work |
| 01:45.42 | RoyK | I know the diffs |
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| 01:45.49 | markybob | RoyK: you're misrepresenting |
| 01:46.48 | RoyK | I made my own distro at a point to make it small enought to fit inside a small initramrd, back in 2000 or so |
| 01:47.02 | RoyK | linux isn't too hard once you understand it |
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| 01:47.11 | markybob | RoyK: good for you. that's irrelevant |
| 01:47.28 | henryk | something something not the question :P |
| 01:47.34 | nevyn | the management practices of different distro's are quite different. while at a high level they're similar. |
| 01:47.41 | nevyn | the devil is in the details |
| 01:48.17 | RoyK | nevyn: yeah, and those take some time getting to, obviously |
| 01:48.52 | nevyn | chkconfig vs update-rc.d |
| 01:48.55 | RoyK | (hence my dislike of rhel and their friends) |
| 01:48.57 | jmcnaught | wonders if #debian-offtopic would be a better place for this discussion. |
| 01:48.58 | nevyn | for a simple example |
| 01:49.00 | RoyK | or systemd |
| 01:49.02 | nevyn | yes yes |
| 01:49.04 | nevyn | mybad |
| 01:49.07 | Alexandrov | hey guys, I´m trying to benchmarking my old laptop by using UBCD, I use the CPU stress tester and it keeps shutting down each time the benchmarking was done. What |
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| 01:49.19 | Alexandrov | *what is wrong with my old laptop? |
| 01:49.20 | nevyn | Alexandrov: themal overload |
| 01:49.30 | Alexandrov | Okay thank you. |
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| 01:49.45 | nevyn | Alexandrov: clean it. |
| 01:49.46 | RoyK | nevyn: but then, update-rc.d and chkconfig are just symlinks, so it's not really a problem - it's still sysv |
| 01:50.10 | nevyn | RoyK: let's move to -offtopic |
| 01:50.16 | RoyK | hehe |
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| 01:50.33 | RoyK | too tired - let's speak tomorrow |
| 01:50.35 | RoyK | nite |
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| 01:50.57 | nevyn | so I disagree for the record ;) |
| 01:51.16 | RoyK | go on |
| 01:51.31 | markybob | no let's not |
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| 02:05.11 | acu_ | Hello guys- I have a virtual machine with debian Jessie with two NICS - one goes to internet through brWAN the otherone goes to LAN through brLAN - however, I can't seem to make them both working - if I have them both only LAN works the other one is shutoff - is there a trick in /etc/network/interfaces that will somehow allow this to work ? is there in host I need to do ? - The host is debian jessie - but I have other virtual machine |
| 02:05.11 | acu_ | CENTOS7 with two NICS - one goes to lan one to wan -that works, debian ones do not - any hint is appreciated |
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| 02:06.03 | nevyn | acu_: check the gateway information |
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| 02:06.32 | nevyn | acu_: if you bring up the external nic last does it work then? |
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| 02:10.17 | acu_ | nevyn - no, I will try again - I made similar things work before - I had issues with physical machine with two NICs - I have to see again - I remember I gave some priority to one over other - soemthng like this - some wholoowhoolo it worked but now I need to do it for a virtual machine |
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| 02:54.57 | karlpinc | acu_: It's likely your routing tables. |
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| 04:28.23 | sewerinspector | let me know if this is better suited for #linux or something... question about kernel config: I want to use my old config for this kernel i'm about to compile except i only want to change one config parameter |
| 04:28.50 | sewerinspector | there's gotta be a way to do this. anyone know of some relevant docs and/or tips? |
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| 04:32.44 | sewerinspector | nevermind i got it. thanks all. |
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| 04:34.30 | nevyn | sewerinspector: vi ;) |
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| 04:34.56 | nevyn | sewerinspector: but you probably also want to run mkae oldconfig to check for any new/changed parameters |
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| 04:35.37 | sewerinspector | nevyn: lol i wish i were that good. but yeah i just moved my .config from /usr/src/<old kernel stuff> to where i'm building my new kernel and ran make oldconfig |
| 04:35.45 | sewerinspector | now i'm just editing stuff with make menuconfig |
| 04:36.05 | nevyn | sewerinspector: the .config isn't that complicated |
| 04:36.53 | sewerinspector | nevyn: word. I'm very inexperienced with kernel hacking etc |
| 04:37.29 | sewerinspector | actually maybe this would be a better question to ask: the whole reason i'm doing this is because i installed debian from a live cd which does not have UEFI support |
| 04:37.36 | nevyn | sewerinspector: vi .config search for the parameter chto change swap a m out with a y or n... |
| 04:37.57 | sewerinspector | ohhh i see what you're saying. that makes a lot of sense |
| 04:38.01 | sewerinspector | i probably could just do that |
| 04:38.20 | sewerinspector | anyway i'm trying to migrate from legacy bios to UEFI without having to reinstall |
| 04:38.25 | sewerinspector | lol |
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| 04:40.14 | sewerinspector | nevyn: would this be a heavy undertaking or is it feasible? |
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| 04:50.02 | de-facto | sewerinspector not sure but wouldnt UEFI need GPT with that specal efi partition? |
| 04:50.22 | sewerinspector | de-facto: oddly enough i do have a /boot/efi partition |
| 04:50.56 | sewerinspector | de-facto: this is an lsblk: https://paste.ee/p/kZQAs |
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| 04:52.04 | nevyn | sewerinspector: so... uefi won't boot dos partition tables afaik |
| 04:52.58 | sewerinspector | dos partition tables? |
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| 04:53.20 | sewerinspector | should /boot/efi be included with my lvm stuff? |
| 04:55.07 | sewerinspector | nevyn: i actually managed to install grub to that partition for whatever that's worth |
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| 04:55.13 | de-facto | sewerinspector you can see which partition type you have with something like "sudo parted /dev/sda print" |
| 04:55.55 | sewerinspector | de-facto: seen here: https://paste.ee/p/ig3n2 |
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| 04:56.28 | sewerinspector | that /boot/efi dir has to be formatted as FAT as far as I've read |
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| 04:57.09 | de-facto | ah great that should work i guess |
| 04:57.21 | de-facto | yep looks good |
| 04:57.27 | sewerinspector | cool :D |
| 04:58.17 | de-facto | its gpt with fat32 for /boot/efi with "boot, esp" flags set, so i guess you are good to go from that standpoint |
| 04:58.40 | sewerinspector | as far as i can see all i need to boot into a kernel that is configured with CONFIG_EFI_VARS=y and i'm good to go |
| 04:58.48 | sewerinspector | all i need to do* |
| 04:58.57 | sewerinspector | well |
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| 04:59.18 | de-facto | have you looked in that /boot/efi dir if there is already a bootloader inside that? |
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| 05:00.06 | sewerinspector | well there is now because i've already tried simply installing the efi grub and rebooting |
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| 05:00.15 | sewerinspector | but there wasn't anything in there before |
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| 05:01.04 | de-facto | you might want to read about http://linux.die.net/man/8/efibootmgr but be carefull |
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| 05:02.30 | de-facto | its for manipulating the EFI firmware boot entries (unlike bios you can set variables and entries in efi apart from the hdd) |
| 05:02.40 | sewerinspector | de-facto: damn that's pretty specific |
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| 05:03.02 | sewerinspector | also of interest: Note: efibootmgr requires that the kernel support access to EFI non-volatile variables (through /proc/efi/vars on 2.4 kernels, /sys/firmware/efi/vars on 2.6 kernels). modprobe efivars should do the trick. |
| 05:03.12 | sewerinspector | the above is why i'm recompiling the kernel |
| 05:03.36 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 05:06.04 | sewerinspector | de-facto: the question becomes, even if I manage to get this all working and I can boot with EFI, will I continue to get kernels from the repos that don't have that EFI_VARS flag set properly? |
| 05:06.35 | grawity | "properly"? |
| 05:07.02 | grawity | the proper setting is =n, your efibootmgr is just way out of date |
| 05:07.18 | grawity | recent releases have been using CONFIG_EFIVAR_FS (/sys/firmware/efi/efivars) for a while now |
| 05:07.31 | grawity | or, has Debian not picked it up yet |
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| 05:07.41 | sewerinspector | grawity: is it really? huh |
| 05:08.01 | sewerinspector | uhhh.... i was reading this. https://askubuntu.com/questions/232364/module-efivars-does-not-exist I know this isn't exactly debian docs but i figured it would be in the ballpark |
| 05:08.03 | sewerinspector | :/ |
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| 05:08.43 | grawity | the raw-sysfs interface had several problems, so recent kernels use a separate virtual filesystem (efivarfs) to provide EFI variable access |
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| 05:09.39 | sewerinspector | gotcha. so is would compiling the kernel with CONFIG_EFI_VARS=y a mistake then? |
| 05:09.45 | sewerinspector | be a* |
| 05:09.48 | themill | ,kconfig EFIVAR_FS |
| 05:09.49 | judd | Searching for 'EFIVAR_FS' in jessie kernel config gives EFIVAR_FS=m. |
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| 05:10.12 | sewerinspector | i'm running testing, for whatever that's worth |
| 05:10.19 | de-facto | sewerinspector i dont know exactly as im still on bios here, but i remember using efibootmgr on some ubuntu systems in the past, there it worked just fine |
| 05:10.22 | themill | (same) |
| 05:10.23 | nevyn | the efivars stuff is hillarious and has resulted in bricking of systems |
| 05:10.39 | grawity | e.g. Arch switched from building Dell's unmaintained efibootmgr to vathpela's fork in 2013, mainly for this change |
| 05:10.55 | de-facto | yep on samsung notebooks one could brick the mainboard by setting efi vars |
| 05:11.05 | sewerinspector | jesus |
| 05:11.13 | grawity | so since jessie has 0.11, I'm pretty sure it uses EFIVAR_FS, not the old interface |
| 05:11.14 | nevyn | rm -rf / was the culprit in some cases |
| 05:11.18 | nevyn | Don't do that. |
| 05:11.27 | sewerinspector | now i'm kinda hesitant to even try to do this lol |
| 05:11.33 | sewerinspector | nevyn: i heard about that, had a laugh |
| 05:11.38 | nevyn | because it traversed all the way into efivars and removed all the initialised settings |
| 05:11.44 | sewerinspector | that command is never a good idea |
| 05:12.33 | sewerinspector | am i risking bricking my machine by doing this stuff? I just got this laptop :< |
| 05:12.49 | grawity | depends on the vendor |
| 05:12.54 | sewerinspector | it's a thinkpad T450 |
| 05:12.58 | de-facto | i guess if you dont do anything you dont understand you should be fine though |
| 05:13.08 | grawity | but generally the Boot* variables aren't very risky |
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| 05:13.25 | grawity | I mean, they're supposed to be changeable |
| 05:13.36 | sewerinspector | de-facto: i'm uh, learning as i go. so i can't say that I have an absolute understanding of this |
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| 05:13.46 | grawity | as long as you go through efibootmgr and not hand-crafting stuff in there >_> |
| 05:13.56 | grawity | the kernel itself validates their contents, too. |
| 05:13.59 | de-facto | on the samsung it was a bug in their firmware and the thinkpads are pretty good supported by linux users i guess |
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| 05:14.19 | sewerinspector | grawity: yeah i'm not doing anything manually with efibootmgr |
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| 05:14.53 | sewerinspector | literally all i'm doing is setting that CONFIG_EFI_VARS flag in the .config, unpacking the module, and installing grub for efi |
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| 05:15.08 | sewerinspector | and then hopefully i'll have a uefi boot. that's the plan. |
| 05:15.11 | grawity | oh you're back to that flag |
| 05:15.26 | grawity | are you sure you *need* it |
| 05:15.35 | grawity | I mean, you're not doing this on wheezy, are you |
| 05:15.45 | sewerinspector | no i'm on testing |
| 05:15.49 | grawity | so you don't need it |
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| 05:15.53 | sewerinspector | ok. |
| 05:16.08 | grawity | your efibootmgr will use /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/ instead |
| 05:16.10 | sewerinspector | it was set to =m before so i guess i'll just reset it |
| 05:16.22 | grawity | try using `efibootmgr -v` to take a look at the current boot table |
| 05:17.31 | sewerinspector | linux-4.4.6 $ sudo efibootmgr -v |
| 05:17.32 | sewerinspector | efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system. |
| 05:17.39 | sewerinspector | sigh |
| 05:17.57 | grawity | hmm |
| 05:18.03 | de-facto | but you did not boot in efi mode yet did you? |
| 05:18.11 | grawity | yeah that's the most likely problem |
| 05:18.18 | sewerinspector | de-facto: no. No UEFI boots thus far. |
| 05:18.26 | grawity | (you can do `sudo strace -e open efibootmgr -v` to 100% confirm what it's trying to access, though) |
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| 05:20.21 | sewerinspector | hang on let me paste the output of that |
| 05:20.23 | de-facto | btw you can boot into a livecd for testing this i guess... do the debain iso's support efi boots? |
| 05:20.37 | sewerinspector | https://paste.ee/p/dbqsg |
| 05:20.37 | de-facto | *debian |
| 05:20.50 | sewerinspector | de-facto: no the live-cd's do not support UEFI |
| 05:20.59 | sewerinspector | that's a HUGE reason why this is such an ordeal |
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| 05:21.03 | jmcnaught | the installers do |
| 05:21.08 | dixiannyshoepp | hi, click on them install them. but it didnt worked completely web-less for me. |
| 05:21.17 | dixiannyshoepp | sorry |
| 05:21.26 | dixiannyshoepp | anyone knows how to update the system using a folder? have a folder with updated packages. and actualize the system with that folder. |
| 05:21.28 | de-facto | there "/sys/firmware/efi/vars/" (No such file or directory) |
| 05:21.42 | sewerinspector | jmcnaught: is there a way to boot up an installer and just install grub from there? |
| 05:21.46 | grawity | oh well; efivars aren't absolutely required to make it boot â EFI has a fallback method, the \EFI\boot\bootx64.efi |
| 05:22.08 | grawity | sewerinspector: hmm actually |
| 05:22.13 | grawity | sewerinspector: strace -e file efibootmgr -v |
| 05:22.22 | grawity | sewerinspector: I forgot it checks before trying to open >_> |
| 05:22.32 | sewerinspector | lol |
| 05:22.33 | jmcnaught | sewerinspector: the installer has a rescue mode that can be used for installing grub |
| 05:22.39 | sewerinspector | yeah let e get that paste for you |
| 05:22.51 | sewerinspector | https://paste.ee/p/lW3oz |
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| 05:23.36 | de-facto | jmcnaught is that already chroot to the current system or would he need to mount rebind, chroot, grubinstall? |
| 05:24.10 | sewerinspector | i'm thinking i'd have to chroot into my laptop |
| 05:24.13 | sewerinspector | and install grub from there |
| 05:24.18 | sewerinspector | but idk for sure |
| 05:25.02 | sewerinspector | actually i might be able to specify the disk to which grub installs in the grub-install command itself |
| 05:25.04 | sewerinspector | so maybe not |
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| 05:26.03 | jmcnaught | !reinstall grub |
| 05:26.03 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html . Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode>. |
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| 05:26.54 | sewerinspector | that looks like legacy grub though |
| 05:27.01 | jmcnaught | you'd also want to make sure that the grub-efi-amd64 package is installed |
| 05:27.08 | sewerinspector | I did see this https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall |
| 05:27.17 | de-facto | on an ms-dos partition i did reinstall grub one like this from an rescue cd mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev ; sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc ; sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash ; grub-install --force /dev/sda ; exit ; reboot |
| 05:27.59 | sewerinspector | that's a hell of a one-liner |
| 05:28.10 | sewerinspector | >new bootloader, GO |
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| 05:29.11 | de-facto | its not really a one liner i just concaternated those, but basically you just need to boot in efi mode and install grub for efi from it after chrooting to the installed sys i guess |
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| 05:29.30 | de-facto | but im not entirely sure on this since i never did it on efi |
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| 05:30.04 | jmcnaught | yeah me neither, i just installed with UEFI in the first place |
| 05:30.29 | sewerinspector | maybe if the grub-install command was like: grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=$esp --bootloader-id=grub /dev/sda |
| 05:30.30 | sewerinspector | or something |
| 05:30.46 | sewerinspector | where $esp would be /boot/efi in my case |
| 05:30.54 | grawity | just `grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=$esp` should be enough |
| 05:31.00 | sewerinspector | yeah i tried that |
| 05:31.05 | grawity | if you chroot, don't forget to rbind /sys (not just bind) |
| 05:31.06 | sewerinspector | that was my thought exactly |
| 05:31.17 | grawity | because you need to bind the efivarfs as well >_> |
| 05:31.24 | sewerinspector | what does bind and rbind to exactly? |
| 05:31.41 | grawity | 'bind' basically mounts the same thing on two places |
| 05:31.57 | grawity | 'rbind' does the same but also includes filesystems below it |
| 05:32.05 | sewerinspector | hmm ok |
| 05:32.09 | grawity | so if you bind /sys to /mnt/sys, you now have the same sysfs mounted there |
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| 05:32.25 | sewerinspector | you know what |
| 05:32.28 | grawity | and if you rbind /sys to /mnt/sys, you now have /mnt/sys/firmware/efi/efivars too |
| 05:32.37 | grawity | (that's "mount --rbind" or "-o rbind") |
| 05:32.43 | sewerinspector | i wonder if arch-chroot from an arch live usb would work just as well |
| 05:32.48 | grawity | yeah, it should |
| 05:33.01 | sewerinspector | there's an idea |
| 05:33.09 | grawity | it mostly just does the same bind-bind-chroot-cleanup thing |
| 05:33.20 | sewerinspector | yeah that's what i was thinking |
| 05:33.47 | sewerinspector | lol if i did that i wonder if my debian splashback for GRUB would still be there |
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| 05:34.10 | grawity | anyway â if you can't get efivars working, cp -a $esp/EFI/grub/grubx64.efi $esp/EFI/boot/bootx64.efi >_> |
| 05:34.31 | sewerinspector | oh what |
| 05:34.34 | sewerinspector | lol |
| 05:34.41 | sewerinspector | wait a sec that looks familiar |
| 05:35.02 | sewerinspector | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.07 | sewerinspector | i was reading this earlier too |
| 05:35.11 | grawity | yeah it should be; many docs mention it as a 'fallback' method |
| 05:35.19 | sewerinspector | gotcha |
| 05:35.41 | sewerinspector | so if i ran that cp command and rebooted |
| 05:35.46 | sewerinspector | it might actually work? |
| 05:35.51 | grawity | it might |
| 05:35.58 | sewerinspector | would I lose legacy bios boot capability? |
| 05:36.01 | grawity | no |
| 05:36.02 | sewerinspector | ok |
| 05:36.07 | sewerinspector | well then it's definitely worth a shot |
| 05:36.09 | grawity | (it might work, provided that the firmware isn't doing backasswards things â I know nothing about the quality of Thinkpads' EFI, but some firmwares are good and some are bad) |
| 05:36.18 | sewerinspector | word |
| 05:36.20 | grawity | and if *that* doesn't work, you can check if your boot menu has an "EFI shell" |
| 05:36.30 | grawity | and manually run grubx64.efi via the EFI shell |
| 05:36.44 | grawity | there's a lot of ways to get this stuff working |
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| 05:36.58 | sewerinspector | gotcha. i half-assed a try at that a few weeks ago |
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| 05:37.43 | sewerinspector | cp: cannot create regular file '/boot/efi/EFI/boot/bootx64.efi': No such file or directory |
| 05:37.52 | grawity | mkdir >_> |
| 05:37.53 | sewerinspector | can i just make that file or should it alrady be there? |
| 05:37.55 | sewerinspector | lol |
| 05:38.38 | sewerinspector | alright rebooting. i'll let you know how it goes |
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| 05:43.19 | sewerinspector | grawity: it worked |
| 05:43.21 | sewerinspector | ~ $ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD" |
| 05:43.22 | sewerinspector | EFI boot on HDD |
| 05:44.02 | sewerinspector | :D thanks everyone!! Super excited about this. one of my better experiences in a distro support channel |
| 05:44.09 | grawity | now do a grub-install again, to actually set up that efivar |
| 05:44.16 | sewerinspector | oh word, ok |
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| 05:45.25 | sewerinspector | Installing for x86_64-efi platform. |
| 05:45.27 | sewerinspector | Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 05:45.29 | sewerinspector | Cool, looks good. |
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| 07:02.30 | __marco | Hello |
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| 07:04.11 | __marco | now that Debian has systemd, how is the network configured at start up? I.e. what is the substitute of /etc/init.d/networking? |
| 07:04.28 | cafuego | /etc/init/networking ? |
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| 07:06.21 | __marco | ? |
| 07:06.42 | Ghostbird | Why does debian install a debian-spamd user for spamassassin, but still run the daemon as root? When I try to fix it in /etc/default/spamassassin, it seems to ignore that file. |
| 07:06.48 | __marco | I wasn't aware of the existance of /etc/init |
| 07:07.06 | __marco | what is it? |
| 07:07.29 | jmcnaught | __marco: /etc/init.d/networking still gets uses, but systemd shows it as a service unit. "systemctl status networking". You still configure networks in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 07:08.42 | jmcnaught | __marco: even before systemd restarting networking with "service networking restart" (or calling the script directly) was not the right way, using ifup and ifdown were/are what should be used |
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| 07:10.56 | __marco | jmcnaught: sure. I am reading /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/README.Debian.gz and I wanted to be sure that everything inside is still valid |
| 07:10.59 | __marco | jmcnaught: thanks |
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| 07:11.49 | jmcnaught | also i think /etc/init is for upstart |
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| 07:15.08 | Vladimirski | When adding a new user in debian where kerberos is used, what do I have to type in as password? |
| 07:15.14 | Vladimirski | using adduser* |
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| 07:19.19 | jelly | __marco: /etc/init/ is just for installations which use upstart as /sbin/init |
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| 07:39.42 | __marco | This explains why I never heard about it |
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| 07:54.37 | onlnr | I'm looking for sha256 or some hash of amd64 version of the live image https://www.debian.org/CD/live/#live-install-stable I am on windows pc. The torrent only downloaded an .iso file, and not a checksum file https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
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| 07:56.06 | onlnr | oh, google helped me! got it |
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| 08:17.16 | amitprakash | Hi, for /etc/default/someservice, how do I pass evaluated commands as values to variables? |
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| 08:18.06 | ansyeblya | hi, how to reply to a user in this irc ? |
| 08:18.11 | ansyeblya | like @username |
| 08:18.27 | amitprakash | for example I want to pass hostname as node_name for elasticsearch, I'd have passed it to ExecStart but it calls /usr/bin/elasticsearch directly, thus disallowing any evaulation as var=$(hostname -s) |
| 08:18.34 | ansyeblya | even google doesnt' know anything about it |
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| 08:18.44 | amitprakash | ansyeblya, just type in their name, tab completion should allow you to complete the full name |
| 08:19.31 | ansyeblya | amitprakash, thanks |
| 08:19.39 | ansyeblya | did you see it highlited like that ? |
| 08:19.41 | amitprakash | yes |
| 08:19.43 | ansyeblya | ok ty |
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| 08:22.42 | cauliflower | Hi! How does a filter expression that only views a traffic from one website look like in Wireshark? |
| 08:23.08 | cauliflower | What is the expression? |
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| 08:29.16 | onlnr | Is the live cd some kind of UEFI boot version? I created the usb stick with 2 different software on windows, but with neither it ignores it. On BIOS it as the first option, and it is named as UEFI: kingston data traveller, while my system is not uefi but mbr |
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| 08:30.26 | onlnr | i wont boot to this usb stick but goes to boot option #2 |
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| 08:33.24 | onlnr | lubuntu 15.10 live cd freezes on lxde when I test it. Ubuntu 15.10 live cd works fine. Now I would want to test debian with lxde, whether I have this problem aswell, but now I have this problem I can't even test it. Not sure I want to blindly install debian and see if there is the problem. Though I guess the problem is fixable |
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| 08:40.44 | jelly | onlnr: two things 1) the installer is different from live image; it's possible live cd has some issues with some bios/uefi firmwares 2) use a tool that overwrites the whole usb stick including the partition, like win32diskimager; avoid smarter tools like unetbootin |
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| 08:43.20 | unborn | onlnr: lubuntu is not same as pure debian.. |
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| 08:44.51 | onlnr | ok. The other tool I use is win32diskimager, the other one is universal usb installer. I am creating these usb sticks on uefi bootable windows 8.1, so not sure if for that reason it creates some uefi bootable version of the debian live cd if that is even possible |
| 08:45.43 | jelly | well clearly your firmware recognizes an uefi image, so maybe you could enable uefi temporarily just to test debian live |
| 08:47.23 | onlnr | oh. I didn't know I could do that (if I understood what you meant) I already downloaded the installer image though, and maybe I just install it blindly |
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| 08:47.56 | onlnr | or see if it can recognize that on boot |
| 08:49.04 | jelly | onlnr: I'm assuming your machine has both bios and uefi support, and that uefi is disabled somewhere in firmware |
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| 08:55.49 | onlnr | I booted to bios, and there is in advanced - usb configuration - legacy support 'enabled', I could try choose auto or disabled here |
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| 09:00.23 | onlnr | I changed to disabled, but it booted to windoze :/ |
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| 09:10.36 | onlnr | okay. The normal iso file (not live cd) boots regardless of that USB legacy support being enabled/disabled. Once it boots it says 'Debian gnu/linux UEFI installer menu'. I'm scared of that word UEFI. This is not uefi style pc afaik. Has windows 7 32-bit, although it has celeron N2815 processor, so I am installing amd64 version now |
| 09:11.42 | onlnr | but all win7 32-bit is supposed to old mbr style |
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| 09:12.49 | onlnr | Am I good to go, and just ignore that UEFI word in that title? This uefi/mbr/legacy/bios got me confused, eventhough I have tried to read about it |
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| 09:22.53 | jelly | onlnr: honestly no idea, but if the installer booted, that means you do have support? |
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| 09:24.38 | abd5932 | Hi, I would like to limit the time my kids spend with computer - how can I auto-logout them after certain period of time (with a warning several minutes before, so that they can save their stuff)? I'm on Debian Jessie with Gnome 3.14? Thank you! |
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| 09:27.26 | onlnr | jelly: yeah good point |
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| 09:29.49 | spaxx | hey, what is the correct mirror for squeeze backports? i'm using http://ftp.de.debian.org squeeze-backports but the release file is expired since 10 days. archive.debian.org the same, expired 14 days ago |
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| 09:31.58 | m14ed | Is it possible to set up a Local Linux server to which everyone can connect as Client and use the Software without actually installing software themselves |
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| 09:37.37 | ongolaBoy | spaxx: hi. I guess you know squeeze is no longer maintained. If you want to continue to use these packets you have to create a file such as /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50tmp-squeeze.conf and this http://paste.debian.net/422956/ |
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| 09:38.24 | ongolaBoy | spaxx: and if you migrate to wheezy you'll have to remove that file after the migration |
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| 09:48.28 | onlnr | Which image file has rtl_nic/rtl.... wireless drivers? I need to load it from another media during installation |
| 09:48.40 | babilen | dpkg: firmware image |
| 09:48.40 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 09:49.16 | babilen | onlnr: You can use ^^ for installation or grab http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stable/current/ and unpack it to a usb stick |
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| 09:52.26 | spaxx | ongolaBoy: thank you! |
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| 09:59.27 | onlnr | thanks. I loaded those files to an usb stick and inserted it but it wont recognize it in the installer. I think I try rerun installer while having that usb stick plugged in from the begin |
| 10:00.11 | hanshenrik_ | some easy way to mount a sftp server? |
| 10:00.14 | hanshenrik_ | sshfs? |
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| 10:01.47 | zamuro | openssh-server |
| 10:01.57 | zamuro | That would do with sftp. |
| 10:02.14 | zamuro | If you wanna use port 21, you just change it in sshd_config |
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| 10:04.25 | babilen | onlnr: What did you do exactly? From what kind of medium are you installing? |
| 10:04.50 | babilen | (and do you require wireless for the installation?) |
| 10:04.56 | onlnr | fat32 partitioned usb stick, it wont recognize it |
| 10:05.20 | babilen | What medium are you installing from? |
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| 10:05.23 | onlnr | well I don't have a wired connection, so the next thing would be to set that up anyway |
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| 10:05.29 | onlnr | usb stick |
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| 10:05.45 | ex-parrot | today I decomissioned a Debian machine which was purchased in 1999, ran Debian Potato on a 2.2.19 kernel, and has been progressively upgraded all the way to wheezy |
| 10:05.54 | ex-parrot | and run 24/7 for that whole time |
| 10:06.08 | babilen | onlnr: Ah, that doesn't work (two usbs) IIRC. In that case download the firmware image and install from that. |
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| 10:07.19 | onlnr | that would be on usb stick aswell? |
| 10:07.40 | onlnr | So instead, I would put this on the 2nd usb stick http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 10:08.25 | babilen | exactly |
| 10:08.30 | babilen | That contains the firmware already |
| 10:08.37 | rozie | ex-parrot: sad day. any photos? |
| 10:08.53 | babilen | onlnr: It might still ask you to insert it (not sure if they fixed that) at which point you just continue. |
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| 10:09.18 | onlnr | ok |
| 10:09.45 | onlnr | do I install that iso image with win32disk imager, like when I did with the bootable image |
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| 10:09.48 | ex-parrot | rozie: I'll take one tomorrow :) |
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| 10:22.53 | onlnr | anyone know why input from my keyboard is really laggy and it wont take my keypresses often, or take them in multiples. Having hard time writing wifi pw |
| 10:22.58 | onlnr | on the debian installation |
| 10:23.07 | onlnr | mouse also so. is my usb ports poor |
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| 10:24.02 | onlnr | okay. it seemed to freeze on the password input. Wont take any keys anymore |
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| 10:28.04 | hanshenrik_ | use /var/www instead |
| 10:28.05 | onlnr | earlier it froze on keyboard select. Also same lag on lubuntu and ubuntu installation process. Otherwise the usb ports seem to work fine |
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| 11:34.38 | darsie | My automount rarely works. I usually have to import photos by manually mounting my USB card reader as root, move photos to /tmp and import them from there. How can I make automount work? |
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| 11:39.07 | darsie | Ok, I'll do it as root again ... |
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| 11:43.00 | prillian5 | in debian... if i type locale, I got POSIX. Even if I do dpkg-reconfiguer locales, and set to utf8. |
| 11:43.09 | prillian5 | Any Idea why reconfigure doesn't take effect (its an openvz container) |
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| 11:56.46 | onlnr | okay. So this time with debian installation the screen didnt froze until I got to the point 'select and install software' it says 'running dpkg' on screen, but this on graphical interface the mouse is not moving and nor is that screen changing. So I havent installed Grub or such yet, but the base is installed. Can I continue this installation somehow, or what should I do? |
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| 11:57.45 | babilen | You could switch to another tty and see what happen(ed/s) |
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| 11:58.23 | ts1k | hi all! |
| 11:58.24 | babilen | ctrl-alt-f2 for example .. I haven't used the graphical install at all and always use the text expert one. |
| 11:59.26 | jelly | prillian5: if you changed the default system locale you have to log off and back on to see changes |
| 11:59.28 | ts1k | I need to connect from linux to a MS SQL Server 2008, which package should I have to install? |
| 11:59.57 | jelly | ts1k: connect using which language? |
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| 12:00.10 | jelly | ts1k: sqsh for command line |
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| 12:01.18 | ts1k | jelly: I think SQL, I need to do some querys |
| 12:01.42 | onlnr | cant switch tty. It seems this is another problem/bug, and people have reported it here https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794410 |
| 12:01.44 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/794410 in debian-installer (open): «debian-installer: Installer hangs during 'select and install software'»; severity: important; opened: 2015-08-02; last modified: 2016-03-25. |
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| 12:02.18 | ts1k | jelly: can I use another language other than SQL??? |
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| 12:04.30 | babilen | onlnr: I would recommend to simply not use the graphical installer |
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| 12:05.22 | onlnr | I had more luck with the graphical installer so far |
| 12:05.37 | onlnr | the non-graphical installer is more laggy, and it freezes the insteller earlier |
| 12:05.39 | jelly | ts1k: not that I know of |
| 12:06.15 | jelly | ts1k: I mean, lots of programming languages have bindings so you can call sql from inside your apps |
| 12:06.30 | onlnr | there is an option acpi=off that someone has managed to fix his hang on this part of the installer, so I might try that. Just getting a bit tired.. like 10th time next |
| 12:06.34 | prillian5 | jelly: I had log off and log in |
| 12:06.46 | prillian5 | I also restart the vm |
| 12:06.48 | jelly | ts1k: the relevant library is called "freetds" |
| 12:07.30 | ts1k | jelly: ahh! I think I'm fine with sqsh :) |
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| 12:27.26 | jbenhaim | hello any user of arm and cubietruck have make work dual screen with the mainline uboot and kernel on jessie ? |
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| 12:32.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi guys whats that command to fill up memory? |
| 12:32.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | i need to test my script :) |
| 12:32.29 | petemc | iceweasel |
| 12:33.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | .... |
| 12:33.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | no iceweasel on my server try again |
| 12:34.14 | korhojoa | well, installing it should fill some memory |
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| 12:39.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | stress --vm-bytes $(awk '/MemFree/{printf "%d\n", $2 * 0.9;}' < /proc/meminfo)k --vm-keep -m 1 |
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| 12:41.18 | darsie | Eryn_1983_FL: fork bomb |
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| 12:43.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | found it |
| 12:43.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | thanks anyways, |
| 12:43.38 | cygnusx1 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4964799/write-a-bash-shell-script-that-consumes-a-constant-amount-of-ram-for-a-user-defi |
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| 12:44.18 | cygnusx1 | fork bomb doesnt eat up ram so much as cause conflict |
| 12:44.42 | cygnusx1 | and you cant see the output |
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| 12:47.34 | WangDang | What do I need to install to be able to lock my screen with a keyboard shortcut or a mouse click? Xscreensaver and light-locker only seem to lock based on inactivity timeouts. Vlock is only for the console. xtrlock doesn't obscure the screen. i3lock works, but it doesn't have a nice screen saver option. Any suggestion? |
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| 12:49.39 | bollo | WangDang, slock |
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| 12:51.47 | jelly | WangDang: which WM or DE are you using? |
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| 12:52.35 | jelly | most have some sort of global shortcuts and it shouldn't be too hard to bind "xscreensaver-command -lock" to one |
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| 12:53.17 | WangDang | jelly: I'm using xfce and whatever wm is default for xfce |
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| 12:54.53 | jelly | WangDang: open xfce4-settings-manager and hunt for shortcuts, somewhere. I don't have it running right now, just remember they were not in the obvious place |
| 12:55.19 | r6ku | WangDang: Settings -> Keyboard -> Application Shortcuts |
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| 12:56.14 | WangDang | jelly: I don't see a "--lock" option to xscreensaver in the man page |
| 12:56.29 | WangDang | r6ku: thanks |
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| 12:57.32 | jelly | WangDang: you're not looking at the right man page, the command is literally called "xscreensaver-command" |
| 12:58.08 | jelly | WangDang: I see xfce has its own xflock4 command, too, don't remember what THAT does |
| 12:58.35 | WangDang | Wow, that is rather literal as a name. Found the option, thanks! |
| 12:59.13 | WangDang | Thanks, I'll look up xflock4 to see it it's useful |
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| 13:00.05 | WangDang | bollo: thanks for the lead |
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| 13:04.57 | fred1807 | is there a command line I can enter to delet/reset any type of cache/memory related to mounted external volumes? |
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| 13:14.50 | jelly | fred1807: http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html |
| 13:15.08 | jelly | not "external" but everything |
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| 13:16.06 | unwanted | easy to configure webmail server for debian 7 any one can suggest ? |
| 13:18.09 | amcorreia | zimbra ? |
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| 13:19.38 | balance | hi |
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| 13:31.26 | jeremie__ | Hi, i'm currently trying to install a debian server, within a windows controlled domain, and i'm trying to automatically create home directory for users from ldap accessing the server,... |
| 13:31.38 | jeremie__ | Which is working almost fine ! |
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| 13:34.28 | jeremie__ | But, and i dont understand why, i don't see how i could give to new users connecting via ssh the primary group that i want |
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| 13:40.11 | ths | I got the debian-multimedia repo added. When I try to install kde-plasma-desktop (or any package that installs kde like task-kde-desktop) I get the following message (aptitude install kde-plasma-desktop) |
| 13:40.15 | ths | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.18 | ths | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.26 | ths | If I remove the debian-multimedia repo it just works |
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| 13:40.47 | ths | How should I go about installing kde without removing the multimedia repo? |
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| 13:42.30 | jelly | ths: remove dmm, install kde, add it back if you really need it? |
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| 13:42.54 | jeremie__ | Hi people o/ |
| 13:43.14 | ths | jelly: not a possibility since I use an automated setup routine |
| 13:43.56 | ths | I manage 50+ debian desktops and there should be a possibility to cleanly install kde even with the multimedia repo shouldn't there? |
| 13:44.17 | jelly | ths: what do you need from dmm anyway? |
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| 13:44.31 | jeremie__ | I'm still trying to set groups and primary group to users "coming" from ldap, does anyone know how to do so please ? |
| 13:45.05 | jelly | ths: this is a dmm problem really, not debian's, so maybe you can avoid it completely? |
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| 13:49.02 | ths | jelly: so aptitude is not able to work around a "defective" repository? oh and to the question which package I need: I'm actually not quite sure since the package list "naturally grew" and there were more people than myself involved |
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| 13:49.29 | ths | I could and shoule check thought |
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| 13:51.05 | ths | *more people involved than just me |
| 13:52.31 | ths | jelly: if you get any ideas how to solve the problem without removing the repo that would be great and it would be nice if you could hilight me. If you don't have any that's not bad either, thank you anyway for your help. I think I will check which packages really require the repo and maybe remove it |
| 13:55.03 | WangDang | I've got screenlocking figured out, but I have a question about xfce shortcuts now. The shortcut in Settings->Keyboard->Shortcuts for locking screen is "<Primary><Alt>Delete". By guessing I discovered that <Primary> means the control key. I couldn't find this documented anywhere I looked. Anyone know where it's documented? 'cause there is another shortcut listed as "<Super>p". I like to find out what the <super> key is configured to. Thanks |
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| 13:56.51 | ths | oh and jelly packages using dmm are for instance acroread and yes our users still depend on it from time to time |
| 13:57.06 | slax0r | hello, I am running into an issue where a font is rendered with excesive spacing between letter in xterm, anyone had that before? |
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| 14:05.20 | karlpinc | WangDang: Have you tried the "MS Windows Key"? |
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| 14:10.13 | WangDang | karlpinc: bull's eye! thanks |
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| 14:12.18 | jonathan_xx | In a regular old fashion network with a NAS (linux) as central server, what would be the best way to create a form of DNS particularly for the Linux hosts? I mean without manually having to put hosts in /etc/hosts everywhere. |
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| 14:14.01 | jonathan_zz | I mean the moment I put something in e.g. ~/.ssh/config, ssh-ing to some place becomes easy, but I mean without going through all of that by default. |
| 14:14.47 | RoyK | jonathan_zz: ansible, perhaps? |
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| 14:19.04 | jonathan_zz | RoyK: seems way too complex, and I cannot really understand it from the wikipedia article. It would probably be much easier to have DNS on the NAS even. But isn't WINS supposed to do something like this? I've never used it I think. |
| 14:19.28 | jhutchins | jonathan_zz: dnsmasq |
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| 14:21.08 | jhutchins | jonathan_zz: WINS is specifically for netbios names, not internet names. |
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| 14:21.54 | jonathan_zz | DNSmasq seems perfect, I wonder if the NAS is already using it. |
| 14:22.09 | jonathan_zz | well it's there. |
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| 14:24.10 | RoyK | jonathan_zz: complex?!? it's raelly easy |
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| 14:24.27 | RoyK | jonathan_zz: but if you just need dns, setup dns |
| 14:25.12 | jonathan_zz | easy is not the same as simple. But DNSmasq seems perfect. I only have to figure out how to use it instead of the router. |
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| 14:26.14 | jelly | ideally you'd put it _on_ the router |
| 14:26.40 | jonathan_zz | yeah but that's currently a commercial appliance, not running any wrt or anything. |
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| 14:29.11 | jelly | oh, then you just have to configure the dhcp server to give your new dns server to the clients |
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| 14:29.50 | jonathan_zz | yeah but I think I just have to turn DHCP on the router off, let the NAS handle it, and just make sure it gives out the correct router address. |
| 14:30.51 | jonathan_zz | it does mean all DNS queries might go in 3 steps |
| 14:31.25 | jonathan_zz | or it could be configured to skip the router as a DNS proxy. |
| 14:31.30 | jonathan_zz | thanks. |
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| 14:31.55 | familybuilding | I've got two languages installed, en and de, and I'm always using the mouse and pull down menu to change between languages, (ALT 129 etc does not work), looking for a shortcut key to change layout and switch from en to de and de to en without always having to use the mouse. Any suggestion, many thanks. |
| 14:32.27 | teraflops | jonathan_zz: dhcp + bind9 setting up ddns. |
| 14:32.38 | jhutchins | familybuilding: What desktop environment? |
| 14:32.43 | familybuilding | gnome |
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| 14:32.47 | teraflops | Dhcp server* |
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| 14:33.02 | jhutchins | teraflops: dnsmasq is really much more suited to a small scale environment. |
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| 14:33.37 | teraflops | jhutchins: ah sure. Im just fine with isc dhcp and bind |
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| 14:35.05 | familybuilding | a ubuntu manual mentions 'keyboard layout options', can't find that in 'Keyboard' Setups. Getting to 'Shortcuts' there, 'Typing' and then struggling to proceed. |
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| 14:35.53 | andril | hello |
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| 14:43.48 | jhutchins | teraflops: I run bind at home just because it was all that was available when I set up the network. It's not hard to get working, it is hard to get right. dnsmasq can handle dynamic DHCP assignments better, and is easier to set up. |
| 14:43.52 | karlpinc | familybuilding: It's going to depend on the desktop you use. |
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| 14:45.05 | karlpinc | jhutchins: Something about dnsmasq rubs me the wrong way. YMMV obviously. |
| 14:45.10 | familybuilding | I work on gnome. Most likely there is a hotkey or shortcut, but I don't know. |
| 14:45.30 | karlpinc | familybuilding: You could ask #gnome if nobody here knows. Or ask again later. |
| 14:45.37 | familybuilding | Thank you. |
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| 14:45.49 | karlpinc | familybuilding: Gnome seems to be all about limiting your options.... |
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| 14:48.07 | jhutchins | karlpinc: I didn't like it when dnsmasq was installed and enabled by default, but I think it's a good solution. Especially if you have no need to learn how to maintain bind. |
| 14:48.39 | karlpinc | jhutchins: There's also nsd/unbound to consider. |
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| 14:50.34 | nilekada | Hello. Got this error while trying to install Amarok: https://paste.kde.org/pbapvs5ai/ndhhes |
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| 14:51.49 | nilekada | Apt-updated, upgraded and dist-upgraded and still the same error |
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| 14:52.24 | markybob | nilekada: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 14:52.35 | nobody44 | hello. I just installed slapd and have some issues with it: apparently it is not able to start, because it tries to bind to port 389, which the user "openldap" is not allowed to do. How do I fix this? |
| 14:52.40 | some_noooob | I had my laptop set up with another monitor, and now it's unplugged but the top bar is still messed up. Any commands to reset that? Messed up meaning it's not showing the time all the way to the right like it usually does. |
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| 14:52.58 | markybob | nilekada: i'm guessing it's stretch. it's not in stretch at the moment. and you're in the wrong place if it is |
| 14:53.46 | ths | jelly: and everyone who cares simple app pinning seems to solve the problem. curious is that it seems to work regardsless of pin priority :/ |
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| 14:54.25 | some_noooob | Nevermind, I figured it out. |
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| 14:54.30 | nilekada | markybob, https://paste.kde.org/p5wthreag |
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| 14:54.51 | nilekada | markybob, yes I'm using testing |
| 14:55.09 | markybob | nilekada: testing support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
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| 14:56.02 | nilekada | markybob, I half-feared that would be the result. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a testing issue. |
| 14:56.09 | nilekada | Thanks |
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| 15:01.32 | ShalokShalom | iceweasel 38 have all the security issues solved from the further versions? |
| 15:01.35 | ShalokShalom | all backported? |
| 15:01.44 | ShalokShalom | or is that a 45 with another version numbering |
| 15:01.46 | ShalokShalom | wheezy |
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| 15:03.56 | jelly | ShalokShalom: 38esr series has all the security issues fixed, yes |
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| 15:05.21 | jelly | ,v iceweasel |
| 15:05.22 | judd | Package: iceweasel on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 38.2.1esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 38.5.0esr-1~deb7u2; jessie: 38.5.0esr-1~deb8u2; wheezy-security: 38.7.1esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 38.7.1esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 38.7.1esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 44.0.2-1; experimental: 45.0~b5-1; |
| 15:05.23 | judd | stretch: 45.0.1esr-1; sid: 45.0.1esr-1 |
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| 15:05.55 | jelly | ShalokShalom: however it looks wheezy doesn't even have the latest 38.7.1esr |
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| 15:06.02 | ShalokShalom | -.- |
| 15:06.05 | ShalokShalom | wow, really? |
| 15:06.12 | ShalokShalom | that is a huge security issue? |
| 15:06.20 | ShalokShalom | its the default browser |
| 15:06.33 | ShalokShalom | ah, ok |
| 15:06.34 | jelly | oh, it does, I'm just not reading the right thing. wheezy-security: 38.7.1esr-1~deb7u1 |
| 15:06.45 | ShalokShalom | see your comment about the backports right know |
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| 15:06.59 | ShalokShalom | so, just the features are not available in wheezy |
| 15:07.05 | ShalokShalom | from 39 and greater |
| 15:07.07 | ShalokShalom | fine, thanks |
| 15:07.13 | jelly | correct |
| 15:07.26 | jelly | ESR is going to switch to 45esr soonish |
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| 15:08.06 | jelly | !iceweasel esr |
| 15:08.07 | dpkg | Iceweasel Extended Support Release, see http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ . Since Debian needs to support packages for years (not weeks!) only the ESR versions are uploaded to unstable as developers only upload packages that are suitable for being included in a release. Other versions are at <mozilla.debian.net> and in <experimental>. |
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| 15:08.28 | thms | My sources.list is fine (default, just changed all from squeeze to wheeze before upgrade). Yet, with aptitude (and not with apt-get), I get errors like " WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" and I have to type "yes" and it is *annoying* |
| 15:08.36 | thms | can anyone help me debug this ? |
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| 15:09.44 | jelly | thms: if you're doing a release upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, read the wheezy release notes |
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| 15:09.57 | thms | erm, seems to go and come back. It's gone after an aptitude update.. |
| 15:10.09 | thms | jelly, that update has been done for long. |
| 15:10.13 | thms | Well for a few days |
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| 15:11.08 | jelly | thms: hm. Perhaps install debian-archive-keyring, first |
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| 15:11.34 | thms | jelly, will look into that if the problems comes back |
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| 15:11.38 | thms | thanks :) |
| 15:11.44 | jelly | thms: I bet that step is in the release notes, too! |
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| 15:12.04 | jelly | !wheezy release notes |
| 15:12.05 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 7 "Wheezy" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes . See also <squeeze->wheezy>, <install guide wheezy>. |
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| 15:12.35 | thms | Thanks. Will take a look at it. I didn't do this one upgrade but I'll make sure to follow this guide when I do the next ones |
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| 15:12.48 | thms | !squeeze->wheezy |
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| 15:13.01 | jelly | dpkg, tell thms about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 15:25.48 | awal1 | _crazy_girl, please no PM's. If you need some help ask in room |
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| 15:27.19 | CapsAdmin | _crazy_girl, is a bot |
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| 15:27.44 | patterson | Some of my best friends are bots |
| 15:28.01 | awal1 | channel bot or a troll? |
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| 15:28.03 | awal1 | :D |
| 15:28.25 | CapsAdmin | just keeps repeating the same lines over and over |
| 15:28.35 | patterson | Me too! |
| 15:28.48 | patterson | Are we there yet? Is this the year of desktop Linux? |
| 15:29.15 | CapsAdmin | patterson, "Some of my best friends are bots" that's from an actual bot, right? |
| 15:29.16 | CapsAdmin | which one? |
| 15:30.32 | patterson | Writing a bot is harder than it looks |
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| 15:51.54 | alive | T3ZlckNvZGVy: nice password. |
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| 15:53.45 | T3ZlckNvZGVy | alive, nah |
| 15:53.55 | T3ZlckNvZGVy | alive, try and decode that |
| 15:54.01 | VeggieMeat | hunter2 |
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| 15:54.18 | T3ZlckNvZGVy | It won't be hard, some well-known/used algorithm |
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| 15:55.56 | T3ZlckNvZGVy | (btw it's base64 :P) |
| 15:56.30 | alive | Nice one |
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| 15:57.56 | T3ZlckNvZGVy | Thanks :* |
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| 15:57.59 | T3ZlckNvZGVy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:58.57 | jonathan_xx | jhutchins: it works :) well mostly. |
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| 15:59.59 | jonathan_zz | jhutchins: it resolves addresses across the network even without /etc/hosts entries, simply based on the DHCP hostname a host gives. |
| 16:00.43 | jonathan_zz | jhutchins: it automatically resolves "host" as well as "host.localnet" |
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| 16:03.10 | jonathan_zz | jhutchins: only my router started bugging and lost its internet connection, probably due to the DHCP on the local network, but not sure. |
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| 16:59.04 | jhutchins | jonathan_zz: If dnsmasq is now acting as DHCP, make sure it's configured with the correct address for the router, make sure the router's address is configured as static and not overwritten by dnsmasq. |
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| 16:59.23 | jhutchins | jonathan_zz: Make sure there's only one DHCP server. |
| 16:59.37 | jonathan_zz | jhutchins: all taken care of |
| 17:00.11 | jhutchins | jonathan_zz: Good, good. |
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| 17:01.11 | jonathan_zz | jhutchins: at first I had not realized it would use resolve.conf for itself to know what DNS to use, so I had to configure the router address int the config file because the host itself also needs to use dnsmasq. |
| 17:01.40 | jonathan_zz | jhutchins: otherwise everything had access to it except the host :p. |
| 17:02.09 | zykotick9 | s/resolve.conf/resolv.conf/ the e is M.I.A. ;) |
| 17:02.32 | jonathan_zz | lol I was doubting myself when I wrote resolv :p |
| 17:02.37 | medfly | gets ticked off about not escaping . for some reason |
| 17:02.45 | jonathan_zz | what is MIA? |
| 17:02.55 | zykotick9 | jonathan_zz: Missing In Action... |
| 17:03.16 | zykotick9 | johnny__: it is/was an army thing?!?! |
| 17:03.17 | medfly | I am having trouble installing Debian 8.3 on my machine. I think it may be because of some raid thing in my hardware. it hangs when making a new filesystem |
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| 17:03.29 | jonathan_zz | lol I don't "type" resolv.conf, I type res<TAB>!!!!! |
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| 17:05.08 | medfly | I've simply put in an empty-ish SATA disk and connected it instead of my previous one . any way to make it not-fail? I don't know mcuh about RAID |
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| 17:05.46 | jonathan_zz | anyway it took me 90 minutes to get everything perfect mostly because I was trying to change my local hostname and not realizing I needed to restart NM |
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| 17:06.18 | jonathan_zz | and when I first attempted it suddenly my DNS stopped working not because of the dnsmasq, but because the router internet had died :P. |
| 17:06.45 | jonathan_zz | complete boggle at that point. |
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| 17:07.01 | jonathan_zz | although I did cheat a bit by downloading the NAS package for it :p. |
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| 17:08.06 | jonathan_zz | and of course NM completely disrupts manual attempts at using ifup/ifdown. |
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| 17:08.44 | jonathan_zz | "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5; ifup eth0; ssh ....." ---> 20 seconds later, connection gone, IP address gone, interface unconfigured. |
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| 17:09.54 | jonathan_zz | I must have spent 20 minutes fighting NM. |
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| 17:10.29 | zykotick9 | jonathan_zz: <note> if you setup /etc/networks/interfaces for the device, it will disable N-M for that device... |
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| 17:11.06 | jonathan_zz | not for OpenSUSE :P. |
| 17:11.08 | jonathan_zz | just kidding lol. |
| 17:11.41 | zykotick9 | checks channel... yup still #debian |
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| 17:12.08 | jonathan_zz | I guess I like the system tray icon. |
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| 17:13.56 | jonathan_zz | and GUI notifications. I just wish NM was designed to honour user choices, instead of messing with it. |
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| 17:15.24 | jonathan_zz | and its command line interface is a pain. Plasma had crashed so the icon was gone. It took me at least 2-3 minutes to get a clue on how to down/up the interface, or to figure out its syntax (once more) but by that time plasmashell had recovered. |
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| 17:30.28 | rpgdude | hey everyone, I am using the Debian OS as a platform for my research project. What is the correct way to cite the project in my research paper? |
| 17:31.20 | medfly | rpgdude: I recall this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/3wqo3h/is_there_a_way_to_cite_the_freebsd_handbook_and/ that might give you suggestions |
| 17:31.20 | nkuttler | rpgdude: depends on what you are citing, and on the rules that exist wherever you do your research.. |
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| 17:32.04 | medfly | I bet random usenix papers have examples you can use |
| 17:32.08 | medfly | if in doubt |
| 17:32.15 | RoyK | rpgdude: out of interest, what's your research about? |
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| 17:32.56 | rpgdude | neural networks |
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| 17:33.20 | bin_bash | liks tar trek |
| 17:33.22 | bin_bash | star |
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| 17:37.23 | jim | tar trek... |
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| 17:38.27 | jim | I'm trying to get my lmsensors working... do I need kernel modules for that? |
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| 17:39.40 | rpgdude | the research is basically to perform neural network model selection for predicting stock market prices |
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| 17:40.11 | Scuttle | anyone familiar wish SSH CA certs and lokking in? |
| 17:40.39 | Scuttle | I have the ca cert created, but what do I use on the client when connecting? I have signed the users public key with the CA |
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| 17:44.59 | rpgdude | maybe I should cite this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/ |
| 17:45.13 | rpgdude | since it's written in book form |
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| 17:57.02 | jthomas | Hello, we have a W3C Validator set up locally on a Deb8 machine. We can't seem to upload files, we get 'IO Error - Missing scheme' â can anyone help me to figure out why? |
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| 17:58.24 | jhutchins | rpgdude: It depends on the citation standards for your project. I would probably reference The Debian Project at https://www.debian.org/ - the manual isn't the actual project. |
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| 18:02.59 | c0fe_machine | would installing SELinux on Debian 8 Jessie be something not recommended/experimental? |
| 18:03.16 | c0fe_machine | Should rephrease that |
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| 18:03.26 | c0fe_machine | Is SELinux on Debian 8 stable? |
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| 18:14.15 | jthomas | Deb8 is stable, SE should be also, but it's a headache if you don't know it well. I don't know it well and can't say much more than that! |
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| 18:17.30 | micw | hi |
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| 18:31.36 | hexnewbie | How do you search packages.debian.org by tag? Clicking on a tag on a package page takes me to a listing of tags (WTF?) |
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| 18:34.47 | distortedvoice | I switched from my discrete NVS5400 to integrated(intel) on my laptop docky does this odd thing on autohide where it creates a black bar(that covers everything) until it is unhidden. I have tried xfm conpositing and xcompmgr. No effect.) |
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| 18:35.36 | jmcnaught | hexnewbie: i don't know, but i use "aptitude search ~G" to search with tags. put the tag name after the ~G. |
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| 18:37.07 | hexnewbie | jmcnaught: Thank you. :) |
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| 18:54.07 | markybob | CosmicRay: think you mean gnome-packagekit |
| 19:02.12 | littlebear | Scuttle, send the root CA certificate to the client, usually don't need to do this |
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| 19:06.27 | riku1 | not sure if this is a debian problem or a problem with my disk, but I cannot shrink my NTFS partition in gparted |
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| 19:06.43 | riku1 | it says unable to read contents of file system |
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| 19:07.36 | riku1 | I have absolutely no problems mounting it and reading/writing as well as booting the Windows on it, but as soon as I unmount it I suddenly can't read the filesystem info |
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| 19:07.49 | riku1 | the same thing happens with a gparted live image |
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| 19:08.24 | joobus | Is iceweasel being deprecated? I did an apt-get dist-upgrade on testing last night and it wanted to install firefox-esr. |
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| 19:08.35 | markybob | joobus: yes |
| 19:08.48 | riku1 | isn't iceweasel just rebranded firefox anyway? |
| 19:08.55 | markybob | yes |
| 19:09.24 | joobus | ok then. |
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| 19:09.45 | FoxMulder | Hey guys |
| 19:09.47 | riku1 | hmm also I can't shrink my partition under Windows because all the software I tried says it's too fragmented |
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| 19:10.14 | riku1 | but it's a SSD so I should be able to shrink it anyway |
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| 19:10.55 | riku1 | the only place I was able to properly shrink the volume was the debian installer |
| 19:11.04 | riku1 | should I make an install disk and try that? |
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| 19:13.44 | henryk | if even windows can't handle it maybe it's a good idea to copy the data over and repartition the whole drive. |
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| 19:18.45 | riku1 | henryk: this is the same disk I have Debian on |
| 19:19.22 | henryk | *deleting the ntfs partition and creating a new one |
| 19:20.06 | DonAlex | Uggg.. Started getting The repository is insufficiently signed by key .. (weak digest) |
| 19:20.12 | RoyK | henryk: another ntfs partition?!? |
| 19:20.14 | DonAlex | how do I fix this? |
| 19:20.40 | DonAlex | seems from opensuse build service.. |
| 19:21.18 | henryk | RoyK, u wot m8? |
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| 19:21.31 | riku1 | my disk is MBR, partitions are Windows Bootloader | Windows 10 | Debian | Swap |
| 19:22.16 | RoyK | henryk: noone sane would use ntfs on linux |
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| 19:22.38 | jhutchins | RoyK: There are LOTS of reasons to use it. |
| 19:22.38 | riku1 | RoyK: sadly you cannot install Windows 10 to Ext4 |
| 19:22.43 | henryk | RoyK great contribution. |
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| 19:22.58 | riku1 | you clearly missed the part where the NTFS partition has Windows 10 on it |
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| 19:23.13 | jhutchins | RoyK: Even more reasons in real world enterprise environments. |
| 19:23.47 | jhutchins | Doesn't Windows 10 have a new, incompatible version of NTFS? |
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| 19:23.53 | riku1 | no |
| 19:24.11 | riku1 | besides I have 0 issues mounting it |
| 19:24.14 | jhutchins | I believe you have to resize the disk from Windows 'cause the linux tools can't. |
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| 19:24.35 | jhutchins | That might only apply to new installs, not upgrades. |
| 19:24.37 | RoyK | well, don't use NTFS on Linux, use some linux FS. then create a separate system of sorts to store your data, using SMB or NFS or something |
| 19:24.37 | riku1 | how come the debian installer could resize it? |
| 19:24.55 | RoyK | don't mix OS specific filesystems across OSes |
| 19:25.00 | henryk | RoyK, read again. |
| 19:25.04 | riku1 | I am not installing Windows 10 on Ext4 |
| 19:25.08 | tulphoon | Where are the informations about partitions and their specification saved? I mean in which file. |
| 19:25.09 | riku1 | BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE |
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| 19:25.38 | RoyK | riku1: just use another machine for the data, ok? |
| 19:25.47 | markybob | RoyK: stop |
| 19:26.00 | riku1 | I am talking about the BOOT SSD in my LAPTOP |
| 19:26.09 | riku1 | I have WINDOWS 10 AND DEBIAN installed |
| 19:26.18 | RoyK | then perhaps FAT? |
| 19:26.31 | markybob | riku1: just set him on /ignore |
| 19:26.37 | markybob | RoyK: seriously, stop |
| 19:26.38 | riku1 | you can boot Windows 10 from ONE filesytem and IT IS NTFS |
| 19:27.17 | henryk | riku1, maybe the windows guys can help you more. ntfs support on linux is not the best thing ever and if even windows has problems resizing it then maybe there is some bigger problem. |
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| 19:27.53 | henryk | riku1, i'm sure windows has tools to check. |
| 19:27.53 | jhutchins | riku1: Ok, new info. Thanks. |
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| 19:28.23 | jmcnaught | riku1: and of course, make sure you have backed everything up before trying to resize :) |
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| 19:29.00 | riku1 | I ran chkdsk on windows and it found no problems |
| 19:29.04 | riku1 | hmm |
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| 19:30.49 | jhutchins | riku1: I'm still seeing lots of stuff that says you have to use the Windows disk manager to resize a Windows 10 partition. http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-shrink-windows-10-to-make-space.html |
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| 19:32.09 | riku1 | I'm going to make a debian install disk and try to shrink it with that since it worked last time |
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| 19:33.37 | TomTomTosch | or, ask people who know what they are talking about, like ##windows :P |
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| 19:36.43 | jhutchins | riku1: Or you could just boot to W10 and use the disk manager. |
| 19:36.53 | jhutchins | riku1: Probably save a lot of time. |
| 19:37.05 | TomTomTosch | jhutchins, he said he did and it didn't work... |
| 19:37.48 | jhutchins | It may be that the partition is fragmented and doesn't have any free space at the end. |
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| 19:42.49 | riku1 | jhutchins: the Windows disk manager doesn't let you shrink the system partition |
| 19:43.00 | riku1 | also it's a SSD so fragmentation is irrelevant |
| 19:43.29 | tharkun | riku1: no, fragmentation is never irrelevant when dealing with Windows. |
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| 19:44.12 | riku1 | I've been told to never defragment a SSD |
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| 19:44.48 | riku1 | the data isn't arranged in a linear fashion like a hard disk |
| 19:44.58 | tharkun | The isue with defragmenting an ssd is that you get to write a lot of times on it reducing the expected lifespan of the device. |
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| 19:48.59 | jhutchins | riku1: Please see the link I posted above. |
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| 19:49.35 | orangey | Hello all! |
| 19:49.49 | orangey | I am trying to migrate from i386 to amd64 |
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| 19:50.03 | orangey | and one of the steps to replace dpkg:i386 to dpkg:amd64 failed, leaving me without dpkg |
| 19:50.07 | orangey | how can I install it manually? |
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| 19:50.58 | orangey | is a .deb file a tgz? |
| 19:51.10 | tjcarter | orangey: no |
| 19:51.29 | orangey | tjcarter: thoughts? I gather all I need is the dpkg bin right now? The deb is installed already |
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| 19:52.20 | jmcnaught | orangey: hello :) so you do have a /usr/bin/dpkg right now but it's the wrong arch? |
| 19:52.29 | orangey | jmcnaught!!! |
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| 19:52.53 | tjcarter | orangey: ar t <file.deb> |
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| 19:53.20 | orangey | jmcnaught: no. I guess it uninstalled the old package rather than try to overwrite with the new. |
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| 19:53.57 | tjcarter | orangey: but dpkg-deb is the accepted way to unpack it. |
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| 19:55.13 | DammitJim | I have samba mounts specified in my fstab |
| 19:55.34 | DammitJim | is there a way to get the to automatically get remounted if they didn't come on upon boot? |
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| 19:55.36 | orangey | tjcarter: OK, looks like I should make some headway with this. |
| 19:55.56 | DammitJim | I have a cron job that copies some stuff and it was failing because the mount wasn't there |
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| 19:59.16 | orangey | hmm. now searching for 'start-stop-daemon'. |
| 20:00.15 | jmcnaught | orangey: that's part of the dpkg package, it lives in /sbin |
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| 20:00.59 | orangey | jmcnaught: aha! found it. |
| 20:01.00 | orangey | Thank you. |
| 20:01.02 | orangey | aaand back on track. |
| 20:01.03 | orangey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:02.37 | jhutchins | I thought the recommended method was a clean install. |
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| 20:03.06 | Ergo | !backports |
| 20:03.07 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 20:03.14 | Ergo | simple sid backport |
| 20:03.17 | Ergo | !simple sid backport |
| 20:03.18 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 20:03.39 | jmcnaught | Ergo: you can "/msg dpkg" to talk to the bot privately :) |
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| 20:03.49 | Ergo | right, i always forget that :P |
| 20:03.50 | Ergo | sorry |
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| 20:04.14 | BinBasher | since ##networking isn't answering any questions and chatting about beer, does anyone know where I can get an A1, O1 or EU proxy or set one up? Is there one publicly available? |
| 20:04.46 | alive | Sounds like i need to be in ##networking |
| 20:05.22 | alive | BinBasher: Any specific reason you want a proxy and not just use a VPN tunnel service? |
| 20:06.00 | BinBasher | alive no, VPN would be fine too. |
| 20:06.24 | BinBasher | alive: just trying to find one with those country codes |
| 20:07.09 | alive | I don't know what A1 or O1 are, but in Sweden there's iPredator. |
| 20:07.29 | alive | It's run by the TPB guys |
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| 20:08.36 | alive | I've also seen ads for TunnelBear on youtube videos. Supposedly they have a lot of locations |
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| 20:09.53 | BinBasher | alive: those are country codes for the server to see where it's from |
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| 20:10.18 | BinBasher | A1 is anonymous proxy, O1 is other country, EU is European Union |
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| 20:10.56 | BinBasher | it's about making my connection appear as one of those 3 |
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| 20:16.36 | Pr0metheus | i'd like to keep a full backup of my system, i installed deja-dup, if i backup / will i be able to restore this backup in case of failure and have a system up and running? |
| 20:18.09 | BinBasher | if you chroot into it in another system yes |
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| 20:19.00 | jmcnaught | Pr0metheus: there are some things like /sys, /dev, and /proc that you'll want to exclude for sure. Also if you're backing up a database you should probably do a dump of the database to a text file first (for example mysqldump) because the database's state files might be inconsistent. |
| 20:19.02 | jonathan_zz | *linux bootloader installation pains*. |
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| 20:19.52 | markybob | Pr0metheus: you should really only rsync what you need. /etc /home and databases/web. that's it. leave the rest. |
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| 20:20.51 | jmcnaught | Pr0metheus: knowing what to backup is discussed here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch10.en.html#_backup_and_recovery |
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| 20:38.05 | alesan | hello |
| 20:38.22 | alesan | is there a script that is executed when ethernet link has been detected? |
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| 20:42.13 | Slimmy | Hey guys. So I'm trying to install the NVIDIA drivers for my gpu.I terminated x session and ran the .run file. During the procedure (which failed) my resolution fell a lot. How can I increase it? 1920 x 1080 isn't even an option |
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| 20:44.44 | zykotick9 | ^ just my opinion, but after you've used the foo.run file from nivida.com = reinstall to get rid of it |
| 20:45.09 | Slimmy | zykotick9: I think it's the smartest idea but there are some issues. |
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| 20:45.34 | Slimmy | Let me come online through my android so i wont disconnect while killing x session |
| 20:45.39 | Slimmy | be right back |
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| 20:46.15 | zykotick9 | Slimmy: seriously, i don't mean to be rude, but _in my opinion_ your install is hopelessly broken now. and i wouldn't touch it with a 30 foot pole. best of luck though. |
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| 20:47.05 | jmcnaught | zykotick9: they're gone, but from what i recall the Debian nvidia packages have an nvidia cleanup script that tries to undo the damage done by that installer script |
| 20:47.15 | markybob | !remove nvidia |
| 20:47.16 | dpkg | [remove nvidia-installer] as root type "/usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall". Debian's nvidia-installer-cleanup package can also assist, ask me about <contrib>. |
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| 20:47.52 | zykotick9 | jmcnaught: that might be correct! i really wouldn't know. but anyone doing this "sort" of thing, should consult <dontbreakdebian> IMO... |
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| 20:48.06 | jmcnaught | zykotick9: indeed |
| 20:48.15 | markybob | it was a dumb move, to be sure |
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| 20:49.19 | jmcnaught | Slimmy: welcome back. the nvidia installer scripts are not recommended on Debian. Debian provides nvidia packages that are better integrated and won't break things. Please refer to https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers (don't forget the section on configuration, please ignore sections with warnings.. those sections should be removed IMHO) |
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| 20:49.43 | Slimmy | While installing the gpu drivers i get "The compiler used to compilr the kernel (gcc 4.8) does not exactly match the curreny compiler (gcc 4.9) |
| 20:49.45 | Slimmy | " |
| 20:49.52 | markybob | !tell Slimmy about remove nvidia |
| 20:49.57 | DammitJim | _netdev on fstab will only reconnect if the server where fstab is has a network issue |
| 20:50.07 | Slimmy | jmcnaught: oh! Thanks so match |
| 20:50.10 | Slimmy | Much* |
| 20:50.22 | markybob | Slimmy: remove your nvidia install first |
| 20:50.59 | Slimmy | Alright |
| 20:51.23 | mdim | hi folks |
| 20:51.54 | mdim | can someone give me a pointer on how to set up a local Debian archive of e.g. Debian Stretch? I need to do some package processing so it'd be handy to have a local copy' |
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| 20:53.02 | markybob | mdim: https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror pretty easy to google... |
| 20:53.06 | Slimmy | markybob: theres no such thing under /usr/bin. I got no such file or dir error |
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| 20:53.37 | markybob | Slimmy: well then god bless. stuff like this is why their script isn't supported :/ |
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| 20:54.37 | Slimmy | markybob: oh... Cant I try the non-script way? The one jmcnaught suggested |
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| 20:55.51 | markybob | Slimmy: got nothing to lose |
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| 20:56.27 | Slimmy | markybob: good point |
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| 21:02.02 | Slimmy | Would nvidia-kernel-dkms be good? |
| 21:02.04 | asarch | How do you fix "VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0" on x86? |
| 21:02.29 | asarch | I already comment out the /dev/sr0 line in /etc/fstab, rebooted and the problem persists |
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| 21:02.36 | BinBasher | Slimmy: do you have optimus technology? |
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| 21:02.55 | asarch | Is this a VFS or a HAL or a kernel problem? |
| 21:03.43 | Slimmy | I have a geforce gt 630 and was having trouble installing using the .run file. I installed this package. Was it a good idea? |
| 21:04.09 | Slimmy | Plus, it said during installation i have to manually configure it. How can I do that? |
| 21:04.27 | BinBasher | Slimmy: but do you have 2 graphics cards? like intel and nvidia? Do you have optimus? |
| 21:04.53 | jmcnaught | Slimmy: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration also if you have optimus like BinBasher is asking then you should be following the Bumblebee instructions instead |
| 21:05.31 | Slimmy | jmcnaught: how can I know whether or not I have optimus technology |
| 21:05.33 | BinBasher | I have optimus, I have nvidia running without a problem |
| 21:05.34 | markybob | !tell Slimmy about bumblebee |
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| 21:10.32 | Slimmy | I got two lines of output with the command dpkg told me. But my resolution is kinda messed up. Is there any other hint that would tell me whether or not i have optimus technology |
| 21:11.22 | jmcnaught | Slimmy: if you put your commands and output on https://paste.debian.net/ we'll be able to see them too |
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| 21:16.18 | Slimmy | http://pastebin.com/s4JKWW2u |
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| 21:18.15 | RoyK | Slimmy: better use http://paste.debian.net/ - less ads |
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| 21:20.04 | Slimmy | Its longer than 80 characters |
| 21:20.28 | jmcnaught | Slimmy: if there wasn't also another line about an Intel VGA, then you don't have Optimus |
| 21:20.57 | Slimmy | jmcnaught: alright! Thanks |
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| 21:24.11 | BinBasher | Slimmy: you can use | pastebinit after a command to automatically upload it to paste.debian.net as output |
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| 21:24.27 | BinBasher | you can install it with aptitude install pastebinit |
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| 21:25.36 | Slimmy | Oh thanks binbasher! |
| 21:25.47 | BinBasher | np, the more you know |
| 21:25.51 | Slimmy | As for my problem thank you all! I'm grateful |
| 21:26.06 | Slimmy | My PC is okay now! |
| 21:26.15 | BinBasher | Slimmy: are you running nvidia? |
| 21:26.36 | Slimmy | Yes |
| 21:26.50 | BinBasher | great! have fun with the improvement |
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| 21:28.22 | Slimmy | Thanks so much! Even though you know, when I got to the drivers and couldlnt update i felt offended i didnt know how to fix it. I eventually solved it thanks to the help i got |
| 21:29.14 | BinBasher | Slimmy: we've all been there |
| 21:29.57 | Slimmy | Binbasher: aint that the truth |
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| 22:04.15 | Pr0metheus | jmcnaught found what i was looking for : fsarchiver |
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| 22:13.48 | jmcnaught | Pr0metheus: cool, i'm not familiar with that tool but there are dozens of methods to backup/restore. Whichever tool you use I recommend testing that restoration works like you expect it to. Backups that don't restore aren't worth having :) |
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| 22:18.33 | careta | hey guys |
| 22:18.39 | careta | anyone here knows about dbus and apparmor? |
| 22:18.49 | careta | I'm having problems getting Virtualbox to work properly under apparmor |
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| 22:59.20 | tharkun | What is the maximum number of files a subdirectory can store? |
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| 23:11.39 | none | hi |
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| 23:11.57 | none | i have a strange problem with the xscreensaver package |
| 23:12.19 | none | i am using debian jessie |
| 23:12.26 | tharkun | !tell none enter |
| 23:12.34 | tharkun | !tell none about enter |
| 23:12.37 | none | xscreensaver is too old |
| 23:12.48 | TomTomTosch | why is it too old? |
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| 23:12.59 | none | it is the 5.30 version |
| 23:13.02 | tvon | has it gone to carousel? |
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| 23:13.09 | markybob | none: that doesn't answer the question |
| 23:13.37 | TomTomTosch | none, it covers my screen just fine. what makes it too old for you? ;D |
| 23:14.51 | none | it shows me an error message "warning this version of xscreensaver is VERY OLD. Please upgrade it " |
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| 23:15.05 | markybob | !snss |
| 23:15.05 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 23:15.15 | TomTomTosch | oh, great. it's that day again :D |
| 23:15.45 | none | it is a version of september 2014. TomTomTosch: it is too old because we are now in 2016 and it does have serious bugs |
| 23:15.55 | markybob | none: that's because jessie froze in 2014 |
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| 23:16.10 | markybob | none: no, that's how debian stable works. once frozen it stays that way until the next release |
| 23:16.34 | markybob | none: serious bug fixes and security fixes are patched. that's it. |
| 23:17.12 | TomTomTosch | none, what serious bugs did you experience? |
| 23:17.27 | none | markybob: so i have to switch to testing to have the working version ? ( i need a secure way to have screen locked, and this version has a serious bug that makes it totally unuseful) |
| 23:17.48 | markybob | none: it is secure. security bugs ARE patched and fixed |
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| 23:18.03 | markybob | none: just no version bump. small tiny fixes |
| 23:18.12 | TomTomTosch | none, so... what bug are ou talking about? :D |
| 23:18.18 | none | TomTomTosch: if you use this version, you lock the screen with a vga cable (2 monitors) connected, it unlocks if somebody unplug the vga cable |
| 23:18.37 | upp | hello i have a new install of debian 8.2 and when i run python meterpreter, and write a long line, the python interpreter crash |
| 23:18.43 | upp | is that a know bug? |
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| 23:19.11 | markybob | none: no it doesn't. i have an up to date debian with two monitors |
| 23:19.33 | markybob | none: what you read about that version doesn't have anything to do with what happens in debian |
| 23:20.47 | markybob | none: debian backports security fixes, you see |
| 23:20.59 | none | markybob: what version are you using ? |
| 23:21.03 | jmcnaught | none: are you experiencing this bug? |
| 23:21.15 | \ni | just in case it's Aprils 1 ppl (at least in this part of the globe) |
| 23:21.20 | TomTomTosch | upp, you run the python interpreter? |
| 23:21.30 | markybob | none: jessie. 5.30-1+deb8u1 |
| 23:21.51 | none | i am going to test it right now. |
| 23:21.53 | TomTomTosch | upp, the one packaged for debian and not a custom build? |
| 23:22.08 | upp | TomTomTosch: i mean python 2.7 |
| 23:22.42 | none | the problem is, the lock frame was normal until today. But now it is larger and contains a warning about the fact that it is an old version. How is it possible ? o.O |
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| 23:23.19 | markybob | none: no one knows what you did. i don't get that warning. |
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| 23:23.47 | none | is there a sort of "debian pastebin" for screenshots ? |
| 23:23.58 | none | i can upload a screeshot .. |
| 23:24.10 | TomTomTosch | upp, maybe you can find something here that is similar to your case: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=python;dist=stable |
| 23:24.12 | aarcane | so I'm in a bit of a strange dilemma. I can't find openvswitch-switch.service file anywhere.. but I need to set an override so that it runs between network-pre.target and network.target |
| 23:24.17 | aarcane | running debian 8 |
| 23:24.23 | markybob | none: is the problem that you have a real security problem that you've tested or that you're paranoid about a warning that it's old? |
| 23:26.46 | none | markybob: i am trying to understand WHY i see this warning now and not a few days ago. And i am also going to test the cable thing, in minutes .. |
| 23:28.05 | markybob | ,checkbackport xscreensaver |
| 23:28.11 | judd | Backporting package xscreensaver in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 23:28.14 | markybob | none: if you're really paranoid ^^ |
| 23:28.43 | jmcnaught | aarcane: some Debian packages don't have .service units yet. systemd has a feature where it dynamically converts LSB init scripts into service units (making it backwards compatible with init scripts). There's probably a /etc/init.d/openvswitch-switch. You could make your own service unit and put it in /etc/systemd/system |
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| 23:29.11 | somiaj | none: what software was upgraded between now and a few days ago? Part of being frozen is you shouldn't get software upgrading like that. Only other issue is a configuration change. |
| 23:29.21 | somiaj | none: what piece of software is giving you this warning? |
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| 23:30.01 | aarcane | jmcnaught, would I need to replicate the content of the LSB init script, or just add some before and after information? |
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| 23:30.26 | gbeapo | CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. CHRISTEL CAN'T FINISH GMS. CHRISTEL CAN'T CURB STAFF ABUSE. CHRISTEL CAN'T RUN FREENODE ANYMORE! VOTE JZK! simonlnu Werring MrAlexandr0 Sammy8806 pugfantus defarge moov macrobat Elysia bfit Tr4sK donnoc ryouma Cabanossi ksx4system ephemer0l AJ_Z0 dayten alexbligh1 p8m skylite padawin_ autofsckk babard kimico infernix BlackPanx vincent_c tyler-baker Strife89|Quassel t0mb0- JRHaigh doebi movic Andreas33 mw patterson sc_ abra0 bxz ko |
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| 23:30.26 | gbeapo | CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. CHRISTEL CAN'T FINISH GMS. CHRISTEL CAN'T CURB STAFF ABUSE. CHRISTEL CAN'T RUN FREENODE ANYMORE! VOTE JZK! Daniel0 rhizome simonlnu mateusz Piggy _jack_ ThomasJ JeremyE77 donofrio mrkebab nkuttler wewlad Ssquidly Ring0` Guest94552 sinseer magnulu riex _guios kbtr tdfischer trench elge Uninstall dvs Furai skule AciD` scubacuda Radex hanshenrik_ break19 Jojan keith4 cyphix abec0 arodrigu mrMute hns coruja karlpinc DandyPandy_ tattol |
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| 23:30.45 | bearded | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! SpaceKoo- fred``` VampiricPadraig yusukesuzuki Ooze paperd av0idz bin_bash superusr well_laid_lawn Miga tobias1 boubou Sleepy63 TheReverend403 brizz xanadu_ dataio warraymos soee RobinC dings misiek200m kenneth piklu hyfrehyfre chimeracoder mr_daemon SM0TVI noname sander85 olegfusion nanoha-sama arodrigu peterS b |
| 23:30.45 | bearded | SPB IS AN ENEMY OF FREE SOFTWARE. SPB WILL STEAL YOUR CODE. SPB CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO RUN FREENODE. VOTE JZK 2016!phorce1 lbatalha_ Malinux {41444d494e} chachasmooth_ DeeEff filisko soahccc Guest94552 eki planetmaker Keridos Noturno Zyferus sendq teeteewhy Hydroxide devtea SerajewelKS distortedvoice DLmass Keew_ cbmuser JmZ_ dimon_ totonika_ Granis guardian JRHaigh beatdown johnnyfive n-st open-future Xjs|moonshine BinBasher Tr4sK skylite cydrobolt H4ndy reve |
| 23:30.55 | jmcnaught | aarcane: you could probably call the init script in the service unit's ExecStart= |
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| 23:31.01 | premover | WHY CAN'T CHRISTEL MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO FINISH GMS? NOBODY RESPECTS CHRISTEL. CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. VOTE JZK. azizLIGHT DLange iflema elmcrest swaechter Dr_Disk Dinduks ws2k3 simonlnu thiagoss solarnetone deetwelve medicalwei sparetire_ brizz Katharsis debhelper gacekjk Xc3ls10r transhuman_ nighty- denisk sparkleunicorn TheReverend403 hank53 wyre mindstorm linuxthefish gigetoo FierceDeityLink petan Guest28258 BiGBOi croddy Bercik mad |
| 23:31.01 | premover | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! pbn ghenry himuraken rodarmor noid- azizLIGHT Ricardo__ mindstorm ThomasJ sewerinspector stnly FlamesOfEternity Pymous AsadH pfote DaIRCKing riex javak rednul amcorreia Jikan heinrich5991 basic` sussudio AndroidVaan Snakes JamesHa peer69_ dasher^0_o donnoc PhilSliderS moetunes Doo her0 |
| 23:31.01 | premover | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! danieli tallbarr electro33 pushpop hohl AndroidVaan eb0t rosseaux Pseudo elysium pfote JackPH kbtr p_quarles CyberJacob wiak teeteewhy marko Saturn812 johnny0 cerebro_ unwanted heinrich5991 ArexR jareth_ js9600 Sloucher H4ndy slax0r Johann robotroll nhandler c0fe_machine drewdavis alexa |
| 23:31.02 | filisko | lol |
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| 23:31.05 | bookdealer | CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. CHRISTEL CAN'T FINISH GMS. CHRISTEL CAN'T CURB STAFF ABUSE. CHRISTEL CAN'T RUN FREENODE ANYMORE! VOTE JZK! snow_bckspc Cork Granis Apeiron` Devastator tyll fred``` careta jelly M0ulin guardian keevil_ lf94 Lakii frazr beelion milobit deathleff nb-ben jeezy belowzero mxtm aarcane movic marcoslater squarecircle ix007 l0xas turfrex ScottE p0g0 thorrr _jack_ Fistandantilus pbn epsilon teeteewhy Olipro Ticho_ olegfusion kyle__ HelloShitt |
| 23:31.05 | bookdealer | WHY CAN'T CHRISTEL MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO FINISH GMS? NOBODY RESPECTS CHRISTEL. CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. VOTE JZK. qdk nicdev` BlackPanx trobotham thallera1 vaelen marcozink Immanuel bxz xKoren duracrisis karstensrage bedouin_ korhojoa ancky KpuCko Dreamix kitallis Brutix_ tvon jareth_ Kamilion disposable vkngpmhc rootd00d yan__ monty Lakii gr8ron aZz7eCh programmerq vila WebDawg Druid kbtr AsadH Tyrant_ NotJimCarrey alexbligh1 Ishaq Zerant ghenry marcoslater M |
| 23:31.05 | bookdealer | WHY CAN'T CHRISTEL MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO FINISH GMS? NOBODY RESPECTS CHRISTEL. CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. VOTE JZK. dustpuppy chimeracoder tokage TriJetScud rstone semajnz denisk f4cl3y teraflops Kulrak Rockj altin r0ryy walking skapunker mdorenka Amun_Ra azmodeus desrt totonika_ sidmo_ crank1988 Sick JonathanD ajcrowe TsukiRa1 JasonSW Zumochi mechfrog VampiricPadraig beelion stunder akitada Sciuro bfit RaiNerTsuFal Apeiron` clion dataio autofsckk BackEndCoder k |
| 23:31.05 | bookdealer | CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. CHRISTEL CAN'T FINISH GMS. CHRISTEL CAN'T CURB STAFF ABUSE. CHRISTEL CAN'T RUN FREENODE ANYMORE! VOTE JZK! volter magyar free_speech raspbeguy Jojan Sthebig Dev0n_ mypapit betaboon thebwt spaceone zerick simonlnu crank1988 freanux [BNC]dimitry7 Fjorgynn FierceDeityLink BackEndCoder calebwill rsully lss9 DrOwl ghoti Cybertinus Kobaz MrHyde Xanthor analyser ectospasm axk4545 mr_daemon spleen mukmuk deetwelve CL zymurgy Werring Stardus |
| 23:31.05 | bookdealer | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! stealthii Scotteh suckawha hinderaker rdz rednul Ard1t lakcaj heinrich5991 platschi jhuebner heurist danieli f4cl3y babilen l0xas heap_ tinyhippo Ooze jesopo KindOne scardinal nyuszika7h ceptor bdeferme cherti sukaeto boubou tobias1 sparty zwox moonlight tabris|away xKoren hoxu[thor] rosten simonlnu Dreamix S |
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| 23:31.06 | ceny | ... |
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| 23:31.14 | cydrobolt | !ops |
| 23:31.14 | asterismo_m | mdfer |
| 23:31.14 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 23:31.17 | bridoon | CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. CHRISTEL CAN'T FINISH GMS. CHRISTEL CAN'T CURB STAFF ABUSE. CHRISTEL CAN'T RUN FREENODE ANYMORE! VOTE JZK! Dreamix spaxx pythonsnake ribasushi k_apo yoh spleen desrt yusukesuzuki peterrooney pugfantus mete| nugit Nach0z Dan_au soahccc netengio_ NoteOn ColtonDRG cyris212 egos_ monpocchi tokage antonp crank1988 vindelschtuffen blazed_ sunnid zack6849 cherti gonyere catsup Guest43739 afx237 Haxxa Attoy CrazyTux[w] chalcedony Druid jesop |
| 23:31.17 | bridoon | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! penguinguru sinseer Zerant xcpop BackEndCoder none rpcope programmerq Elysia Tempesta RagingComputer ELLIOTTCABLE zymurgy anonnumberanon sysanthrope tswett SPF necronian na1rb MonsterKiller_ r3m terabit tomaw shad0VV sunnymilk taylorbyte Fusl Ool Eryn_1983_FL Joost hobbyquaker churnd tlund axk4545 hexagoxel KN |
| 23:31.17 | TheReverend403 | Who's christel? |
| 23:31.19 | Malinux | what's going on?! |
| 23:31.21 | hanshenrik_ | CENY CANT CODE LOLFUCK |
| 23:31.22 | NyanCat | !ops assholes |
| 23:31.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nyancat complains about: assholes |
| 23:31.23 | shootbird | who's bernie? |
| 23:31.23 | cydrobolt | !ops spam |
| 23:31.24 | DrDoofenshmirtz | !ops spam |
| 23:31.27 | none | somiaj: xscreensaver |
| 23:31.28 | filisko | :S |
| 23:31.31 | shootbird | !ops berniesupporters |
| 23:31.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: shootbird complains about: berniesupporters |
| 23:31.36 | hanshenrik_ | lol |
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| 23:31.45 | Scotteh | ah of course |
| 23:31.49 | NyanCat | after the 4th, 5th or 6th time of spam iterations i'm surprised that there isn't some sort of automatic intervention script |
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| 23:31.52 | basic` | i personally <3 christel |
| 23:31.52 | TheReverend403 | Why are you spamming the ops, it's clearly already being handled at the network level lmao |
| 23:31.52 | truantship | SPB IS AN ENEMY OF FREE SOFTWARE. SPB WILL STEAL YOUR CODE. SPB CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO RUN FREENODE. VOTE JZK 2016!jeddi darxun Trieste rtur Akufen pentiumone133 MrDetonia vandox NaStYdoG ToBeCloud Maikel Subfusc manningx IdleGandalf shootbird betaboon lrvick Internet13 CosmicRay egos_ moonlight Stummi Junaos_ Noskcaj Stanto seg shifty relipse PryMar56 p8m mcfrisk iooner MrAlexandr0 axc1298 DrWeissbrot emlow ujjain Puree tulphoon iou |
| 23:31.52 | truantship | CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. CHRISTEL CAN'T FINISH GMS. CHRISTEL CAN'T CURB STAFF ABUSE. CHRISTEL CAN'T RUN FREENODE ANYMORE! VOTE JZK! edwardly hN3 Gm4n enki Lione Lipp_ KakuRoze JamesHa ignasio ws2k33 rootd00d edog breitenj ploopkazoo wolfmitchell Tempesta Wug Seldon case39 zBob dustpuppy mns manningx mx204 madmattco Guest50706 geekthattweaks m4rCsi_ Kyoshiro ledixus tristero ckuehl Guest27224 ustreamer-81981 martintrojer sparetire_ cyp |
| 23:31.52 | truantship | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! bin_bash tswett evilman_work Xoib Dagger CowboyNeal Sigyn Cork duoi DeeEff ashnur Xjs|moonshine zupzupper bemawi pelegreno McLive int0x27h misprint_ ohljo well_laid_lawn IdleGandalf TheOne1 topi` r0ryy mrlase peterS swym goberle_ Stanto berceanu_ coolmadmax OneM_Industries rvchangu- mec |
| 23:31.52 | truantship | WHY CAN'T CHRISTEL MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO FINISH GMS? NOBODY RESPECTS CHRISTEL. CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. VOTE JZK. wolfmitchell Fusselkater Kulrak cy8aer APLU Cork jareth_ Dewi pelegreno alexandros_c Guest27224 Helheim vagarwal_ Vjetar hust921 ujjain Louis atomi kanzure hobbyquaker glitch13 K1rk Qann CyberJacob paperd mantsid diytto zwiep` Windows98 Iiiak Tyrant_ ashka boxrick1 m4rcu5_ PatienceZero mpmc oberstein sz0 kloeri lbatalha_ n-st |
| 23:31.52 | truantship | SPB IS AN ENEMY OF FREE SOFTWARE. SPB WILL STEAL YOUR CODE. SPB CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO RUN FREENODE. VOTE JZK 2016!crash_ drewdavis LeandroLuiz jeezy darxmurf joelpet galeido LargerMon cuddly_wumpums oberling squarecircle beatdown zykotick9 n0ok mgodzilla t0m0 t0mb0- Emmanuel_Chanel cheapie sweatsuit digilink papey Rockj ashka raphyduck mete| hohl yusukesuzuki Bryanstein pbrzozow- pitelpan jeremie__ benaiah Willis timmu breitenj Void |
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| 23:31.56 | Scotteh | what a quality user |
| 23:31.56 | cashbox | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! MrBy JPT grassass cyris212 B[]rG monpocchi Bert_2 dbristow peterrooney michaelni olblak CustosL1men acrocity berndj felon- xnrand Xoib dayten ChanServ seprob Guest43739 grim4593 Sammy8806 Emmanuel_Chanel elky daemonkeeper FlamesOfEternity Laris husqar Hobbyboy dgncn Rymax99 qoreQyaS apt hyfrehyfre FoolishO |
| 23:31.56 | cashbox | CHRISTEL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE FOSS CODE CONTRIBUTION. WHY IS THIS PERSON INTERESTED IN RUNNING FREENODE? VOTE FOR JZK ON STAFF ELECTION DAY! ParkerR blaisebool keevil_ technohehl kbtr ejcx semajnz Fusselkater Internet13 imrekt nanoha-sama drewdavis ckuehl Hello71 danmackay rootd00d zymurgy pentiumone133 Modeuse datasmurf infernix nathanhi j3roen polyphagia cliluw petemc pastures1 n13z aibot tobias1 metaKin lmoreira xKoren percY- Redfoxmoon reli |
| 23:31.56 | cashbox | SPB IS AN ENEMY OF FREE SOFTWARE. SPB WILL STEAL YOUR CODE. SPB CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO RUN FREENODE. VOTE JZK 2016!ZodoTurtle WebDawg harmaahylje Sammy8806 Log1x unlike Dewi dimon_ Sleepy63 rgr WangDang detha WakiMiko egos_ nirel tomaluca95 Dreamix Katharsis Pucilowski Hello71 jamesc TiCPU testi judd dgncn micronn Xoib mdel onur Guest43739 ^v diytto screedo asterismo_m xar- hobbyquaker CustosL1men pushpop Amun_Ra totokaka sukaeto upp elky brabo pastures |
| 23:31.56 | cashbox | WHY CAN'T CHRISTEL MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO FINISH GMS? NOBODY RESPECTS CHRISTEL. CHRISTEL CAN'T CODE. VOTE JZK. Strogg brizz screedo terabit denisk osxi_ SynrG goberle_ eoli3n cvr Scotteh CosmicRay Helheim topi` t0mb0- freakyy tomocha__ devec0 tyler-baker siloxid keevil_ ephemer0l manningx mindstorm tikun eshlox tulphoon pbrzozow- Madgod xcpop snoogie_ jhuebner pipeep Iridos Furai teclo- Rurd2di noodle cherry_l1n shingouz Cabanossi at0m dbristow p0rt Sh4d |
| 23:31.56 | cashbox | SPB IS AN ENEMY OF FREE SOFTWARE. SPB WILL STEAL YOUR CODE. SPB CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO RUN FREENODE. VOTE JZK 2016!Ool umbSublime crazydiamond BaW xSmurf Amplificator nbb rogst siloxid blueness ghostdog mibo firztspawn ptx0 jamesc jbenhaim sweatsuit gmichael azizLIGHT Quimby binwiederhier jeddi bradjones stew shifty krion papitfx Fusselkater kbtr pkv Ricardo__ Doo tabris|away datasmurf ChrisH jcara DonVitoCorleone DXR meLon heurist pfote terxx _KaszpiR_ |
| 23:32.00 | aibot | get the wrong idea. you want to attend the funeral in simi valley, california, but the president who is this person interested in running streams |
| 23:32.05 | none | markybob: i have just tested it. plugged and unplugged the vga cable while screen was locked .. |
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| 23:32.06 | ashka | welp |
| 23:32.07 | Asoka | SPAM!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.10 | MrDetonia | huh |
| 23:32.11 | hanshenrik_ | shootbird, the f does this spam have to do with "berine supporters" ? |
| 23:32.14 | none | markybob: it works ok |
| 23:32.16 | vindelschtuffen | Don't you think you're making your candidate look bad to the users in this channel? |
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| 23:32.26 | systemd0wn | Jeesh. I'm getting bombarded with election day spam in the mail, telephone and now IRC? lol |
| 23:32.26 | tokage | NyanCat: yeah shouldn't be too hard if somebody always highlights everyone D: |
| 23:32.33 | Miga | lol.. |
| 23:32.35 | somiaj | none: do you have security sources in your sources.list, what is the output of apt-cache policy xscreensaver (use paste.debian.net) |
| 23:32.35 | shootbird | hanshenrik_: similar tactics when disrupting the free exchange of ideas. please research/google, thx. |
| 23:32.37 | markybob | none: right. like i said, debian backports security fixes. so what you read online doesn't apply |
| 23:32.40 | \ni | ... |
| 23:32.42 | PatienceZero | it's the way of the yank |
| 23:32.48 | TheReverend403 | seriously tho, who's christel? |
| 23:33.01 | NyanCat | christel is the main person on freenode yo |
| 23:33.02 | basic` | a freenode operator |
| 23:33.06 | shootbird | christel is an ircop |
| 23:33.16 | TheReverend403 | oh |
| 23:33.18 | none | xscreensaver: |
| 23:33.18 | none | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.18 | none | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.18 | none | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.18 | none | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:33.19 | somiaj | no need to carry on about the spam. freenode staffers seem to be dealing with it, this is not the channel to talk about it. |
| 23:33.43 | dave0x6d | Thanks. |
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| 23:33.46 | shootbird | no doubt |
| 23:33.50 | basic` | hereâs a topic change |
| 23:33.50 | shootbird | get em outta here folks! |
| 23:33.55 | basic` | iâm moving drupal.org infrastructure to debian 8 |
| 23:34.05 | basic` | itâs a work in process, but itâs happening. Very happy with it. |
| 23:34.12 | NyanCat | is that more secure than what you have right now |
| 23:34.41 | basic` | not sure about security, but itâs newer |
| 23:34.52 | somiaj | basic`: on centos before? |
| 23:35.01 | basic` | yeah, centos 6 |
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| 23:37.19 | MaBunny | guys is debian a good platform for pentesting? |
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| 23:37.52 | MaBunny | im thinking about buying a 64gb pendrive and setting up my lab |
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| 23:38.03 | somiaj | MaBunny: over usb3? |
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| 23:39.02 | TomTomTosch | kali is usually the tool of choice for pentesting. but you will find the same tools for debian. |
| 23:39.02 | MaBunny | no,my computer is old |
| 23:39.07 | MaBunny | somiaj,usb2 |
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| 23:39.36 | MaBunny | but it will support usb3,ive decided what to buy |
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| 23:39.54 | somiaj | MaBunny: I'd suggest using a live system as oppose to installing on a usb drive, as it can speed things up. debian live + persistance could do that for you. |
| 23:39.56 | MaBunny | well,i heard somewhere not to use Kali |
| 23:40.22 | MaBunny | live system as in? |
| 23:40.27 | MaBunny | in hard drive? |
| 23:40.31 | somiaj | MaBunny: depends on what it is you want to do and support you will want/need. Only issue with kali to me is it isn't supported here |
| 23:40.40 | somiaj | MaBunny: no using a live system (like a system that can be run from a cd) |
| 23:41.10 | Rurd2di | cashbox please dont spam everyone in chat |
| 23:41.17 | somiaj | MaBunny: a live system boots the rootfs/os into memeory this way it dosen't have to make as many repeated calls to the harddrive for read/writes (nice if you have a slow drive or can't read/write) |
| 23:41.19 | Rurd2di | kind of annoying dude |
| 23:41.40 | MaBunny | isnt ok |
| 23:41.44 | MaBunny | ok |
| 23:42.01 | somiaj | MaBunny: debian as a whole set of tools for building a live system and some premade ones |
| 23:42.39 | somiaj | note live systems may run better, but you have to do extra work to set them up to be persistance. |
| 23:43.36 | markybob | it's a total PITA to set up to be honest :P |
| 23:43.36 | aarcane | jmcnaught, I added a custom .service file as you suggested, but systemd-analyze still generates the old graph. Is there somethign I need to do to update that graph manually? |
| 23:43.48 | MaBunny | somiaj,so which part of the debian partition do i modify?can you give me a hint |
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| 23:44.58 | MaBunny | well,in my current system,i hav set up wireshark as a normal user,and hav been learning how to use it for 3 days :) |
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| 23:45.16 | defanor | a network question: if /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth1/proxy_arp is set to 1, and eth1's netmask is set to 255.255.255.252, it'll make the system to respond to any ARP requests that aren't about addresses from its /30 network, right? |
| 23:45.18 | MaBunny | i think i can add the required tools to make it into a lad |
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| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! lord_zoo Andreas33 DLmass mRokita_ platschi Axton JelmerD Piper-Off hexagoxel kmh vinci ignasio noPW_TQM olblak rkj_ chachasmooth_ denisk Ticho_ Sciuro SunGod- M0ulin acidchild devster31 j` well_laid_lawn WangDang Kyoshiro RickyB98 McLive kalebo Guest64733 MarkusMagnusson oskie VirtouZ bemawi jager krups dreamon_ rosten p |
| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! ZeroBrea_ medicalwei Calcium noodle Windows98 Slumlord_ her0 Vjetar lmcloughlin ChrisWi JesseWalling Wug ceptor petan vaelen eki XeonSquared faw Zambezi taylorbyte Rubin defanor Cpuroast av0idz ustreamer-81981 DDR Vlad rafalcpp Zerant MonsterKiller_ tortib DANtheBEASTman sobkas Rurd2di julius dskw Zumochi necronian mgodzi |
| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! goberle_ Jarus giraffe estan_ llimeht_ boubou PhonicUK BiGBOi NightMonkey iNs_ dings alfred__ hyfrehyfre k^ Caelum Messenger_bird qoreQyaS Spr1ng dreamon_ holmgren rax- Bercik hobbyquaker j4son MrFrood stew Immanuel markovh Amplificator aibot Aebian nanoha-sama devec0 dayten cherti axk4545 krthnz runejuhl p0rt axc1298 mib |
| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! kingkong|Q Bryanstein tobias1 johskar infinity3 jannic gareth__ sidv LoRez krion sdx23 catsup bin_bash jonathaN frlttrwrd ahmetalpbalkan ]3n19m4[ uda felon- Nitori genpaku Pseudo bazhang Spec iflema ceny ohljo lohenpaa k_apo dpkg sc0 Slumlord_ Kobra weltzooo Plastefuchs geekthattweaks pod anonnumberanon Penix_ Aebian Juna |
| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! stooj zwamkat IbexPeak BotaniCar SPF rattking monpocchi c0fe_machine Tegu Strife89|Quassel tswett mukmuk uNmowed diytto cam13 upp magnulu yekk AlwaysHigh MaBunny Penix_ sz0 cyris212 Xoib pvn jareth_ NyanCat nanoha-sama therock247uk NoteOn `ryban zwiep` galeido Dan_au Bercik Akufen lohenpaa LargerMon CyberJacob speeddragon |
| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! slax0r JasonO Zambezi s00pcan Guest62885 gnugr distanto1igin Tulah CrazyTux[w] Getafix74 ajcrowe programmerq cnu- noname sbine EnergyCoffee pvoigt WakiMiko pushpop anbz Spitfire TomasCZ Raden pseubodot cydrobolt obserd Starduster phorce1 Arrowmaster Sigyn pflanze Ryushin zw01 Klumben iflema tobinski___ bazhang ColtonDRG t |
| 23:46.44 | recubant | FREENODE IRCOP INCOMPETENCE AND ABUSE BROUGHT YOU THIS MSG. PLEASE FIND A BETTER HOME FOR #debian. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION! heap_ katymoe dinoocch Ssquidly jonbryan roge p0g0 bn` kInOzAwA Axton sc0 pizduley magyar PhilSliderS tugrik PhonicUK jpalmer slax0r filisko Treylis ELLIOTTCABLE root4 VeggieMeat mirton holmgren matthiaskrgr Learath2 [BNC]dimitry7 MrFrood mavhq krups mossman_ FluidDruid Xjs|moonshine gnugr stapler117 thallera1 markybob se |
| 23:46.46 | aibot | freenode ircop incompetence and abuse brought you this msg. please find a tut about using dd ...it really is rather straightforward |
| 23:46.52 | DrDoofenshmirtz | !ops spam |
| 23:46.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: drdoofenshmirtz complains about: spam |
| 23:46.58 | [BNC]dimitry7 | what? |
| 23:47.03 | NyanCat | somiaj: freenode is doing a great job and all but can you please do something about them being able to do it |
| 23:47.05 | NyanCat | in the first place |
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| 23:48.18 | MaBunny | what was tht shit about?? |
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| 23:49.27 | bin_bash | lol |
| 23:49.38 | bin_bash | gr8 script |
| 23:49.38 | brabo | MaBunny: best to ignore it. giving any attention to spammers makes it worth to them ;) |
| 23:49.43 | Starduster | +ban recubant |
| 23:50.33 | johskar | The retard spammer even apologise for the interruption? lol! oh well xD |
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| 23:51.59 | fuzzy-logic | +1 themill |
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| 23:57.37 | npo | rip |
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| 23:59.59 | PatienceZero | info npo |