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| 02:50.06 | Javabean | don't suppress me too hard, i might not remember the things i need to remember |
| 02:50.37 | petemc | ssh bby is ok |
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| 02:51.21 | luxio | I gave it 2 minutes and I got nothing but errors from that stupid wireless card. |
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| 02:52.13 | jmcnaught | luxio: did you try the recovery boot option from the grub menu? |
| 02:52.14 | mrrhq | luxio: I think systemd should time out the wireless card after about a minute or two. otherwise, try your Ethernet. |
| 02:52.30 | luxio | I think I should just reinstall |
| 02:52.38 | luxio | I should have installed it under my 2TB drive in the first place anyway |
| 02:52.49 | luxio | So better to do that now, right? |
| 02:53.11 | mrrhq | shrugs. |
| 02:53.20 | mrrhq | Reinstalls fix everything :^) |
| 02:53.27 | luxio | Heh |
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| 03:17.11 | luxio | still installing debian |
| 03:17.55 | x032cx | erinstalling is for the weak! |
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| 03:18.04 | jimm | is it installing packages? |
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| 03:21.13 | luxio | jimm: I have to create new installation media |
| 03:23.15 | jimm | luxio, why? (does that mean you have to install again?) |
| 03:23.29 | luxio | no I was trying to reinstall |
| 03:23.34 | luxio | <mrrhq> Reinstalls fix everything :^) |
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| 04:30.29 | ecom | If I install a package, for example "pathogen", and run "apt-get purge pathogen" how come there is less memory deleted than installed? I also run "apt-get autoremove" but I still have some leftover data. Let's say the file was I think 120 MBs, apt only removes 90 MBs, what gives? |
| 04:32.46 | themill | You didn't purge all the packages that were installed (only the one you listed on the command line); but more importantly, apt is very conservative in removing packages from your system that you might be using. |
| 04:33.28 | themill | That means that if some other package declares a "Suggests" relationship on something that was installed as a dependency of pathogen that it will be kept. |
| 04:33.35 | ecom | themill: How do you completely uninstall everything then? |
| 04:33.56 | themill | look at your terminal output or the logs is the simplest |
| 04:34.18 | ecom | you're saying I have to go and see what installed and manually remove each one? |
| 04:34.55 | themill | You can try «aptitude -s -o Apt::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant=false remove» but it might remove more than you bargained for |
| 04:36.31 | ecom | themill: I don't want to do that ever again. I ran aptitude remove ~o or something similar the other day and I had to reinstall Debian |
| 04:37.05 | themill | Well you can read what it says it will do and decide if you want to. It's not like it doesn't ask for confirmation. |
| 04:38.08 | ecom | Besides /var/log/apt, is there a place where I can see exactly how much memory was used in installing a program? |
| 04:38.31 | themill | also, aptitude remove ~o should absolutely not require you to reinstall. It would only remove packages that you can't install and you shouldn't have any of them on your system anyway except in quite unusual circumstances. |
| 04:38.49 | ecom | It tried to uninstall the kernel, then I realized it deleted everything. |
| 04:39.02 | ecom | But that's besides the point. |
| 04:39.09 | themill | It would not have done either unless you asked it to do so |
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| 04:39.17 | themill | By "memory" I assume you mean disk space. apt-cache show $package shows the size of the package. |
| 04:41.25 | ecom | Where it says "Installed-Size: 28025" what unit is that in? |
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| 04:43.58 | themill | kB and it's very approximate given that every filesystem will treat the files differently and so the packages will take different sizes on disk |
| 04:44.23 | ecom | Here it says it's in bytes: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=173120, but I don't know |
| 04:45.34 | ecom | aptitude -s -o Apt::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant=false remove |
| 04:45.42 | ecom | Where did you learn about that^ |
| 04:45.48 | themill | it's in the manual |
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| 04:46.20 | themill | http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s05s05.html |
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| 04:49.19 | ecom | Is the estimate going to be that far off? apt-cache says that git was 28025 and you said it was in KBs. I ran purge git and it says it removed 28.7 MBs, which is 29388.8 KBs |
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| 04:50.04 | themill | that's well within the kB vs kiB snafu |
| 04:50.47 | ecom | But there's still a discrepency |
| 04:52.03 | ecom | I ran the aptitude command you gave me and it says "No packages will be installed", etc. |
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| 04:59.32 | luxio | Now, what was that handy package I was told about that supposedly lets me see what's using up all my disk space? |
| 05:00.04 | jmcnaught | luxio: ncdu? also take notes :P |
| 05:00.15 | luxio | Ah, yes! |
| 05:00.22 | luxio | jmcnaught, new install btw ;) |
| 05:00.33 | luxio | It's noticably slower on my HDD, but lots more space! |
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| 05:01.46 | awwal | "pdftk" pkg, + it gui interface "pdfchain", is a nice tool for manipulate pdf files :) |
| 05:02.07 | awwal | +1 |
| 05:02.20 | luxio | My fresh install seems to be only 4.8GB! :D |
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| 05:02.25 | luxio | Not even minimal! |
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| 05:03.42 | ecom | How did you see that it was 4.8 GBs? Did you run "df" and calculate by hand? |
| 05:03.48 | jmcnaught | luxio: it's quite possible what was taking all the space on the earlier install was not packages. you might have had something making error like crazy and filling up a log file for example? |
| 05:04.03 | luxio | ecom, df -h |
| 05:04.14 | luxio | jmcnaught, It was probably all of those firmware errors! |
| 05:04.32 | ecom | 2.0G netinst ftw. |
| 05:05.01 | themill | the install medium used is irrelevant |
| 05:05.27 | ecom | I think you need netinst to not install all the unncessary DE stuff? |
| 05:05.49 | ecom | If you made the XFCE image, I thought you will have to install XFCE |
| 05:05.55 | themill | not true |
| 05:06.05 | ecom | then why is there even a netinst image? |
| 05:06.16 | luxio | what do you think netinst means |
| 05:06.32 | ecom | Why are you so hurtful :'( |
| 05:06.38 | luxio | hehe |
| 05:06.42 | luxio | sorry |
| 05:06.42 | themill | ecom: it's all about when you download the packages and whether you download packages you won't install |
| 05:07.14 | ecom | So did you guys read ever single wiki page and man page to get to the level you are at? Or did you learn at a university or something? |
| 05:08.14 | arahael | ecom: years of experience, and also doing my own linux system. incidentially, studied engineering. |
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| 05:08.54 | arahael | has been using linux for 2 decades now. |
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| 05:12.05 | ecom | thanks for all the info |
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| 06:18.34 | ecom | Why is it not recommended to add ppa's from other distribution to Debian's sources.list? |
| 06:18.55 | tuxopenwrt | this is silly but I installed debian on laptop with a USB and somehow the mountpoint has been a USB. I have had USB for long time but today I lost it. I am not sure if I reboot how to boot into debian . |
| 06:19.26 | tuxopenwrt | is there a way to reset the mountpoint and load the OS from there ? |
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| 06:20.29 | tuxopenwrt | since the OS was booted from USB, do I even have it on my hard drive ? how to get out of this! |
| 06:20.32 | tuxopenwrt | help! |
| 06:20.35 | jmcnaught | ecom: it's because other distributions are generally not compatible with Debian. Just because they use the same package format doesn't mean the binaries will work properly on a Debian system. Also it can introduce problems with dependency resolution and cause upgades to fail |
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| 06:21.36 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: not sure i understand. You installed Debian to an external USB drive? |
| 06:22.03 | ecom | I see, but is it ok for the instance of installing one theme using a ppa? I'm trying to get arc http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3AHorst3180&package=arc-theme |
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| 06:23.05 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: IIRC I installed using Unetbootin on USB |
| 06:23.31 | luxio | Is it bad to delete syslog? |
| 06:23.38 | luxio | It seems to be taking up a lot of space |
| 06:23.55 | luxio | jmcnaught: I think that's the problem, the firmware errors were probably filling that syslog |
| 06:24.12 | jmcnaught | ecom: if the PPA has more than just the package you want from it it could still cause dependency problems. You could try manually downloading the single .deb file and installing it with dpkg -i |
| 06:24.13 | tuxopenwrt | since I installed on some new Windows laptop, I had to bypass the usual deal of booting from disk as it always went into Windows boot and hence used USB |
| 06:24.38 | luxio | tuxopenwrt: yep, windows, eh? |
| 06:24.40 | luxio | haha |
| 06:24.41 | themill | ecom: a gtk "theme" is not just a few pictures, it's a binary compiled against gtk. Is it compiled against the right gtk? |
| 06:24.48 | themill | ecom: also, do you trust "Horst3180" enough to give them root on your computer? |
| 06:24.59 | tuxopenwrt | I am myself unclear how the boot used to happen, but seems was working and I was busy so never bothered to fix it |
| 06:25.02 | luxio | (the answer is probably no) |
| 06:25.02 | tuxopenwrt | :( |
| 06:25.04 | jmcnaught | ecom: gotta ask yourself is a theme worth jeopardizing the integrity of your system? |
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| 06:25.06 | ecom | themill: yeah, arc dark is very popular |
| 06:25.24 | themill | umm. the answer to that was supposed to be no ;( |
| 06:25.31 | luxio | popular =/= safe |
| 06:25.39 | tuxopenwrt | luxio: :/ |
| 06:25.52 | luxio | Adobe products were popular. Guess what happened? |
| 06:25.59 | luxio | Database leaks of plaintext passwords. |
| 06:26.00 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: i'm not sure how you would install with unetbootin, are you talking about a live system? |
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| 06:26.12 | ecom | themill: Ok so how do I undo what I did then |
| 06:26.30 | jmcnaught | luxio: what you need to do is find and fix the problem making all those log entries. can you make a paste of a sample? |
| 06:26.31 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: burn OS on USB - https://unetbootin.github.io/ |
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| 06:27.22 | themill | tuxopenwrt: sounds like a fairly typical problem that unetbootin causes |
| 06:27.59 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: i know what unetbootin is. did you copy the installer image to USB with that tool, or are you talking about installing Debian to a USB using it? |
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| 06:29.21 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: i think I copied the installer image, but doesn't seem to have worked that way. I would boot using the USB and then remove it every time. |
| 06:29.47 | ecom | themill: If I already followed the guide, is there anything I can do? |
| 06:30.20 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: don't use unetbootin, use cp (on linux) or win32diskimager. The proper way to prepare a USB device for installation is documented in the Debian install manual |
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| 06:31.24 | tuxopenwrt | themill: whats the remedy ? Do you think if I prepare another USB, then on rebooting and using that I can login to the same OS ? |
| 06:31.37 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: anyways it sounds like you might be talking about a live disk that you run from USB, or did you run the debian installer and have it install to a USB device? |
| 06:31.46 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: okay, but right now I want to be back into my system when I reboot |
| 06:32.12 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: help me understand your situation and i'll try to help |
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| 06:32.42 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: Are you trying to say that you set the partition to install debian on the flash drive, but you still have debian installed in your hard drive? |
| 06:33.48 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: thank you jmcnaught! I am trying to remember what exactly I did. I don;t think it was livedisk. I might have run an installer to install on USB probably. |
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| 06:34.11 | tuxopenwrt | ecm : I think that is the case,02:57 < jmcnaught> tuxopenwrt: anyways it sounds like you might be talking about a live disk that you run from USB, or did you run the debian installer and have it install to a USB device? |
| 06:34.23 | tuxopenwrt | sorry, http://pastebin.com/M3xRhPQJ |
| 06:34.34 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: What did you have installed before you attempted to install Debian? Windows? |
| 06:34.41 | tuxopenwrt | this is my partition table having |
| 06:34.52 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: and you lost the USB device that it was installed to? |
| 06:35.14 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught :yep I lost it while driving back today. |
| 06:35.31 | tuxopenwrt | ecom: Windows 8 or whatever the new laptop came with |
| 06:35.40 | tuxopenwrt | and then i installed debian on it |
| 06:35.47 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: and you need to get back onto windows 8 you're saying? |
| 06:36.57 | luxio | jmcnaught: pretty sure my 'sample' will be 3gb of the same exact error |
| 06:37.17 | jmcnaught | luxio: than one line should suffice |
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| 06:37.28 | ecom | themill: how is my system jeopardized? What if I just remove the ppa after I'm done with it. |
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| 06:38.15 | tuxopenwrt | ecom: i want to get back to Debian. Since I always booted from USB... I am not sure how to get back in |
| 06:38.20 | themill | ecom: At the stage where you've installed the package, you have already run the maintainer scripts as root. |
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| 06:38.36 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: it's still not clear to me *where* you installed linux. If you installed it to a USB drive and lost the drive, clearly it's gone. If you installed it to your internal harddrive but also for some reason had GRUB on the USB stick, well.. that's strange |
| 06:38.39 | themill | tuxopenwrt: is it only the bootloader that is in the wrong place? The rest of the installation is on your hard drive? |
| 06:39.05 | themill | jmcnaught: actually, the latter is exactly one of the modes of failure of unetbootin. Strange but true. |
| 06:39.14 | luxio | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/447769/ |
| 06:39.17 | luxio | millions of these lines |
| 06:39.25 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: do you have any other computers/flash drives avaiable? |
| 06:39.32 | luxio | jmcnaught: the file is growing!!! |
| 06:39.38 | ecom | themill: so what can I do at this point? |
| 06:39.59 | jmcnaught | luxio: that firmware is in the firmware-ralink package |
| 06:40.10 | themill | ecom: if you don't trust your machine any more, then your only option is to reinstall. If you're not that worried, then close your eyes and carry on. |
| 06:40.17 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : I think the GRUB was on the USB. I am currently running on this system(unless it crashes), is there a way I can check ? |
| 06:40.39 | tuxopenwrt | themill : I am assuming I screwed the bootloader (hopefully) |
| 06:40.51 | themill | tuxopenwrt: you're currently running the installation that doesn't have a bootloader? |
| 06:41.10 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: sounds like that was the case. can you to a backup of important files before you do anything else? |
| 06:41.31 | tuxopenwrt | so basically, I think the new laptop didn't allow me to install anything. Hence I did booting from the stick |
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| 06:41.46 | themill | !fixgrub |
| 06:41.47 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 06:41.50 | ecom | themill: Why would opensuse let some guy upload malicious code onto their ppa? |
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| 06:41.58 | themill | ecom: ask them |
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| 06:42.32 | themill | ecom: you don't know whether it's malicious or not; there are no checks for this. You are implicitly trusting their infrastructure and the uploader. |
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| 06:43.12 | ecom | themill: all I ran was echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/Debian_8.0/ /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/arc-theme.list is that when the "script" ran? |
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| 06:44.17 | tuxopenwrt | dpkg, themill, jmcnaught - is there a way to see if debian is installed on the partition and I wasn't running OS from USB ? |
| 06:44.18 | dpkg | tuxopenwrt: what are you talking about? |
| 06:44.26 | jmcnaught | ecom: .deb packages have scripts inside them that run as root during install and removal |
| 06:44.36 | ecom | themill: and there's another problem. If I download the source binary, how do I know that there isn't malicious code in there as well. It's the same thing whether I download from ppa or build manually. |
| 06:46.05 | tuxopenwrt | dpkg : as in ? I lost my USB stick from where I used to boot into Debian ... so I am not sure how to get in now. as jmcnaught asked before about I used a live USB setup or the bootloader on USB and installation on the hard-drive... I am not able to answer as I don't know |
| 06:46.05 | dpkg | tuxopenwrt: You are person #3 to send an unparseable request |
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| 06:47.01 | tuxopenwrt | dpkg: I am sorry. Did my last sentence make sense ? |
| 06:47.02 | dpkg | tuxopenwrt: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 06:47.25 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: Do you get a black screen when you boot right now? Or can you get to grub? |
| 06:47.29 | themill | tuxopenwrt: dpkg is a bot and is currently very confused |
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| 06:48.26 | tuxopenwrt | themill : oh, and the reinstall text it sent ... is it correct ? |
| 06:48.49 | tuxopenwrt | ecom: i am scared to reboot. I have to backup files first |
| 06:49.04 | themill | tuxopenwrt: are you currently booted into this installation? |
| 06:49.08 | tuxopenwrt | yes |
| 06:49.17 | tuxopenwrt | themill : yes |
| 06:49.20 | themill | what's the output of "mount" (use a pastebin) |
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| 06:49.35 | tuxopenwrt | http://pastebin.com/M3xRhPQJ |
| 06:49.36 | themill | ecom: you have to trust more people if you accept pre-compiled binary packages. |
| 06:49.41 | tuxopenwrt | the second line is mount output |
| 06:50.17 | tuxopenwrt | as in second part .. after "---" |
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| 06:51.00 | themill | tuxopenwrt: so that looks like the root partition is on your hard drive |
| 06:51.32 | ecom | themill: I'll ask horst3180 for what the script ran. Or maybe it's already online. |
| 06:51.47 | tuxopenwrt | themill: /dev/disk/by-uuid/e2f3b719-f9d3-4db0-9fc6-c49104165903 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered) |
| 06:51.51 | tuxopenwrt | this one |
| 06:51.52 | tuxopenwrt | ? |
| 06:51.58 | themill | ecom: "ask"? we're having a discussion about trust... |
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| 06:52.16 | themill | tuxopenwrt: yes, that's your /dev/sda5 |
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| 06:52.38 | tuxopenwrt | themill: so it is problem with bootloader not present on the harddisk ? how can I fix it without wrecking things |
| 06:53.35 | tuxopenwrt | somehow I would like to reclaim disk space from the windows partition, which apparently i wasn't able to before |
| 06:53.40 | themill | the very last steps of update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever will hopefully be enough, but I have no idea how dual boot stuff is supposed to work these days. |
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| 06:54.53 | ecom | themill: well you have to trust people at some level, or else you can't do anything. There's no way you actually went through and read the source code for every single package you installed. What about Debian itself? Have you gone through the entire source code to check that there isn't malicious code? |
| 06:54.54 | luxio | jmcnaught: I think that did the trick! |
| 06:54.57 | themill | ecom: if all you ran was that echo command then you've not done anything; it's when you start installing packages that you are placing huge trust in the maintainer of the repository and their infrastructure. (and also assuming that their infrastructure is compatible) |
| 06:54.58 | luxio | jmcnaught: No more errors! |
| 06:55.10 | tuxopenwrt | I usually don't get a dual boot screen. If I don't boot by pointing to the USB, it just starts loading stupid windows |
| 06:56.14 | tuxopenwrt | themill : shall I do update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda4 ? it seems sda4 is windows |
| 06:56.51 | themill | tuxopenwrt: it's likely to be /dev/sda but that would clobber the windows bootloader. I've not done any dual booting for over a decade so I'm useless to you at this point. |
| 06:56.57 | jmcnaught | luxio: if you have lots of space your huge syslogs will eventually be logrotated away |
| 06:57.22 | tuxopenwrt | maybe jmcnaught can show me the light ? |
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| 06:57.48 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: themill: wait, I thought you're supposed to put grub in the same directory as / and earlier we said it was /dev/sda5? |
| 06:58.08 | tuxopenwrt | themill : you are right, so /dev/sda5 should do it ? |
| 06:58.30 | themill | that would be if you were then tell the windows bootloader to chainload to grub |
| 06:58.36 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: the last time i dual booted linux it was with os/2 warp. i think that grub as an "os-proper" that will look for other operating systems and add them to its boot menu |
| 06:58.47 | themill | os-prober |
| 06:58.49 | jmcnaught | os-prober that is |
| 06:59.11 | themill | ecom: it's a big step to widen the trust beyond debian and start using random things from other websites (and it's also a big step to assume compatibility, which is where we actually started) |
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| 07:00.06 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : okay, but I am not sure how to tell Windows bootloader about the presence of Debian. Or will it do it by itself ? I think there is a config file i need to fix |
| 07:00.24 | tuxopenwrt | (something i remember from long back) |
| 07:02.02 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: from what i understand windows doesn't voluntarily support booting another OS, and most dualbooters will install windows first, then linux and grub takes care of letting you choose. You probably want to install grub on the MBR with /dev/sda, but I don't know if you'll still be able to boot Windows after that |
| 07:02.03 | tuxopenwrt | oh sorry you mean " grub has a os-prober " . I didnt get the typo |
| 07:02.49 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : you are right. I remember from long back that this was the case. I really don't need Windows so dont care about that |
| 07:03.05 | ecom | themill: what do you mean by compatibility? Arc is running well right now. Are you talking about later updates? Well can't I just remove the PPA now that I've installed? |
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| 07:04.17 | tuxopenwrt | themill, jmcnaught : so the updated command will be : update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 07:05.43 | jmcnaught | ecom: binary compatibility could be a problem for example using an Ubuntu PPA on Debian. If the PPA installed packages that have the same name as Debian packages but different dependencies, or files that other Debian packages install/own, even with the PPA removed there could be upgrade problems. Also you won't be getting those packages upgraded with the PPA removed |
| 07:06.11 | themill | ecom: "currently seems to run" is not the same as "actually compatible" and you didn't know that in advance. |
| 07:06.16 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: if /dev/sda is your boot drive that looks right. Did you check if os-prober is installed? |
| 07:06.30 | themill | ecom: you can be as much of a risk taker as you want -- it's your box! |
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| 07:08.13 | jmcnaught | ecom: my advice is that Debian provides more than enough to get a very functional system that does everything that most people need, the happiest Debian users are the ones that stick to what's provided by Debian. But yeah, it's your computer. |
| 07:08.25 | ecom | jmcnaught: it's open suse, themill: I mean you take risks as well, what's the worst this guy can do? I'm looking at all the processes, and it's all the same as before. It doesn't look like anything was installed. |
| 07:09.20 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : there is no sda actually. there are sda{1,2,4,5,6} |
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| 07:09.47 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: /dev/sda is the drive itself, the sda1, sda2 etc are partitions |
| 07:10.00 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : oh okay |
| 07:10.45 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i have os-prober installed on debian by default i checked |
| 07:11.14 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: with any luck it will add windows as a boot option, but again i don't know how modern dual booting works in practice |
| 07:11.52 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : output- http://pastebin.com/JmV6MTeK |
| 07:12.28 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: I'm 99% sure you install onto /dev/sda5 or where ever you said before that debian was installed on. I dual boot, and I installed Debian literally 1 day ago. I installed grub onto /dev/sda4/ which is where my Debian partition is. |
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| 07:12.46 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i will install grub with above command and see os-prober again ? |
| 07:13.44 | tuxopenwrt | econ : I see. so I will do update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda5 and run osprober |
| 07:14.15 | ecom | If /dev/sda5 is where debian currently resides |
| 07:14.23 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: installing to the MBR is what I've always done, also grub has a hook to call os-prober on its own |
| 07:15.07 | tuxopenwrt | ecom, jmcnaugt : got this on doing above command - http://pastebin.com/h3KRJxUU |
| 07:16.10 | ecom | tuxopenwrt: well if you can update grub, then that probably means grub is already installed? |
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| 07:16.45 | tuxopenwrt | ecom, jmcnaugt: i did on jcmnaught MBR suggestion and got this - http://pastebin.com/cPUB04gm |
| 07:16.59 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: the grub-install command didn't run because the sudo only applied to the first command before the && |
| 07:18.42 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : ohk, I am trying the ecom suggestion of sda5 as he said it worked for him literally, 1 day back |
| 07:19.03 | tuxopenwrt | wait i did sda |
| 07:19.34 | tuxopenwrt | gave me this error : http://pastebin.com/AxiPY76E |
| 07:21.21 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught, ecom : shall i go with sda5 ? hopefully that doesnt have stage1 errors ? |
| 07:21.56 | tuxopenwrt | same error on sda5 too |
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| 07:25.07 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: what does "tune2fs -l /dev/sda5 | grep 'Inode side'" say? |
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| 07:26.07 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: also i think i noticed in your "mount" paste that the filesystem is ext3, is that correct? |
| 07:27.36 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : yes it is ext3... why ? |
| 07:27.58 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : that gives no output ... the is no Inode |
| 07:29.05 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: sorry another typo, should be size no side. check my commands before you type them :) |
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| 07:29.38 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: what version of grub is installed? "aptitude versions ~i~ngrub" |
| 07:29.48 | tuxopenwrt | if it helps http://pastebin.com/xFDgp2Yp |
| 07:29.54 | tuxopenwrt | ah ok |
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| 07:31.29 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: ahh.. 256. so it seems that grub legacy cannot work with Inode size of 256 on ext3 file systems |
| 07:31.59 | tuxopenwrt | this is the total output : http://pastebin.com/uES0Enr7 |
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| 07:33.32 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i am not sure how to understand that sentence... |
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| 07:33.53 | tuxopenwrt | i think there are three versions of grub |
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| 07:34.31 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: you have grub-legacy installed, which cannot work with a /boot that is formatted as ext3 with Inode size of 256. |
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| 07:35.14 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: does "dpkg -S grub-install" say that this file comes from the grub-legacy package? |
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| 07:35.39 | greenride | I'm trying to network install Debian on a machine that requires the bnx2-mips-09.2.1b.fw firmware. When prompted for this driver, I insert a DVD rom with this driver. However, it is not recognized by the operting system (Debian - most recent). What format does Debian expect. |
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| 07:36.25 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i think yes - http://pastebin.com/MnSj4Ume |
| 07:36.31 | tuxopenwrt | how can i fix things ? |
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| 07:39.33 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: "aptitude install grub-pc grub-legacy-" should install grub-pc and remove grub-legacy (with the '-' after it). Check the proposed changes before agreeing |
| 07:40.27 | jmcnaught | greenride: can you put that file on a FAT filesystem (in the root directory)? |
| 07:41.05 | jmcnaught | Agiofws: not sure what software you're using, but presumably this causes the computer to do more work, so it takes longer |
| 07:42.46 | jmcnaught | greenride: this chapter of the install manual covers detail with missing firmwares, note that this file doesn't seem to be available in any packages so you'll need to provide it loose: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
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| 07:46.10 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : backing up date before followin your instructions |
| 07:47.45 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: good you should always have backups. i think that the newer grub doesn't have this problem, but i've never had this problem before |
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| 07:52.59 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i hope so too! I am to blame to not fix this earlier... but thats just me being silly |
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| 08:05.52 | ashes-mobile | hello |
| 08:07.39 | ashes-mobile | my synaptic touchpad has odd behaviour. when i want to scroll down one page, normally i could click on the window's scroll bar, but with this touchpad driver the page will travel to where the mouse cursor is |
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| 08:12.59 | anddam | I'm trying to free up some space, I ran apt-get autoclean and clean already |
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| 09:32.04 | luxio | what the hell |
| 09:32.14 | luxio | i was messing with the sound mixer and sound suddenly stopped working |
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| 09:33.59 | H4ndy | Maybe it does not want to be messed with ;) |
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| 09:34.53 | luxio | i got no clue what i did that made it break |
| 09:34.58 | luxio | trying a reboot |
| 09:35.05 | teraflops | luxio: which mixer is that? |
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| 09:39.19 | luxio | welp I'm on windows and sound works, so it's not a hardware problem |
| 09:39.26 | luxio | now what the hell did I do wrong |
| 09:39.36 | luxio | everything on the mixer seemed normal |
| 09:40.07 | luxio | is there anything other than the hardware or mixer that could mess with the sound? |
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| 09:41.39 | luxio | Also I have another problem, when I reboot there's a 50/50 chance that my internet will work |
| 09:42.12 | teraflops | luxio: which mixer? Are you using pulse or just alsa? |
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| 09:42.30 | luxio | teraflops: I dunno, it was just the default one on Xfce under "media" |
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| 09:43.19 | teraflops | luxio: then find out. Reboot into Linux. And see If pulsando is running |
| 09:44.10 | teraflops | Also xfce mixer has bad reputation :P at least with pulseaudio |
| 09:44.24 | teraflops | Pulseaudio * |
| 09:44.37 | anddam | jelly: you're da man! |
| 09:44.57 | anddam | jelly: transmission-daemon had tons of (deleted), stopped the daemon and the used space dropped to a whoppy 1.6GB |
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| 09:45.14 | anddam | H4ndy: you're da man too, but you came close second |
| 09:45.29 | luxio | yeah it's apparently alsa, teraflops |
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| 09:47.17 | teraflops | luxio: what did you do for checking that it's alsa? |
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| 09:49.39 | H4ndy | anddam: problem found, we're happy :) |
| 09:49.43 | teraflops | luxio: anyway. First thing to check if you're in alsa is checking that your sound is not mutted |
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| 10:24.46 | mfe | hi |
| 10:24.53 | teraflops | yo |
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| 10:25.25 | mfe | I get configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables... i think some export variable is set wrong |
| 10:25.29 | mfe | how can i fix this? |
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| 10:26.08 | hexnewbie | mfe: Do you have build-essential installed? |
| 10:26.26 | mfe | I can only build from source my package manager is broken by the vendor |
| 10:26.49 | hexnewbie | mfe: So you're not using Debian? |
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| 10:27.00 | mfe | sure its a mix of debian sarge and lenny |
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| 10:27.31 | mfe | Linux fes-a120d19nas 2.6.17.14ReadyNAS #1 Wed Jun 20 20:08:20 PDT 2012 padre unknown hexagoxel |
| 10:27.33 | teraflops | mfe: you like bleeding edge eh :P |
| 10:27.53 | teraflops | mfe: this is not debian right? |
| 10:28.07 | mfe | its debian sarge |
| 10:28.10 | m3tti | is there an opensource alternative to btsync |
| 10:28.19 | m3tti | which is written in python |
| 10:28.20 | mfe | netgear override the output of uname |
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| 10:28.53 | mfe | with some hotfixes from lenny |
| 10:31.30 | hexnewbie | mfe: You usually debug compilation problems by looking at config.log, but my guess is still that build-essential isn't iinstalled |
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| 10:32.15 | mfe | it's installed i already compiled gcc two years ago |
| 10:32.36 | mfe | i also could compile hello world |
| 10:33.31 | mfe | http://paste.debian.net/447979/ hexnewbie |
| 10:35.20 | hexnewbie | mfe: Well, in this case the problem is that your distro is way too old for what you're compling. |
| 10:37.39 | hexnewbie | mfe: Or at least, the gcc |
| 10:37.55 | teraflops | mfe: look at that kernel and debian release, does it worth all the effort youre putting in? |
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| 10:38.20 | teraflops | just wondering |
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| 10:39.03 | mfe | teraflops, I wonder that myself |
| 10:39.45 | hexnewbie | Funny enough, I have no idea what gcc -R option does, and I can't find any way to find out... |
| 10:40.42 | hexnewbie | GCC online docs don't list it, man gcc doesn't work on any of my debian systems, etc. But the option is htere |
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| 10:42.11 | mfe | hm i think I installed or changed something which results in the given error message |
| 10:42.41 | hexnewbie | mfe: Well, your gcc doesn't support -R. I can't find what -R is, but Debian Jessie's gcc supports it. |
| 10:43.02 | mfe | on which line do you find gcc -R? |
| 10:43.28 | hexnewbie | mfe: 98 and 97 |
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| 10:44.11 | mfe | hm... |
| 10:44.20 | mfe | strange |
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| 10:59.23 | noqnio | hey. My understanding is that VirtualBox is not 100% free software, as it needs proprietary packages for RDP. Are there any completely free alternatives? |
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| 11:06.56 | rudi_s | noqnio: qemu/kvm |
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| 11:07.17 | rudi_s | (And if you like nice GUIs, virt-manager.) |
| 11:07.22 | rudi_s | *and libvir |
| 11:07.25 | rudi_s | *libvirtd |
| 11:07.37 | noqnio | oh i love myself some guis. thank you both |
| 11:08.00 | noqnio | i want to test out i3 on top of gnome |
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| 11:08.53 | noqnio | oh is virt-manager the one qubes uses? |
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| 11:12.22 | teraflops | noqnio: for the client side you can do spice and/or whatever rdp client for win machines |
| 11:12.41 | teraflops | ... if you do plain qemu/kvm |
| 11:14.58 | noqnio | will check it out :) |
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| 11:16.38 | teraflops | noqnio: under qemu/kvm win machines perform better at graphics using rdp |
| 11:17.41 | noqnio | not really planning to put a windows vm to be honest |
| 11:17.58 | Spine | Hi, I just installed debian and found I had to turn off ACPI to be able to boot |
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| 11:18.27 | teraflops | noqnio: lucky you |
| 11:18.36 | noqnio | hehe |
| 11:19.10 | teraflops | noqnio: I really recommend you to use virtIO drivers in guest machines |
| 11:19.16 | Spine | does anyone know the cause of this? I think I'd like to leave ACPI on |
| 11:19.46 | teraflops | Spine: picky HW? |
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| 11:22.44 | noqnio | thanks ! |
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| 11:23.24 | Spine | teraflops: I've run debian on this hardware before |
| 11:23.36 | Spine | the only change is that I used SSD instead of HDD |
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| 11:24.01 | teraflops | Spine: before implies the same kernel? |
| 11:24.16 | Spine | Yes |
| 11:24.19 | teraflops | hmm |
| 11:24.51 | Spine | oh wait, I'm being stupid |
| 11:25.22 | Spine | I tried to install debian with 'Debian desktop enviroment' enabled and it booted right into gnome |
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| 11:25.59 | noqnio | gnome is the default DE |
| 11:26.00 | Spine | this time I only checked 'Standard system tools' and it hanged after the grub screen saying 'Loading please wait' |
| 11:26.35 | Spine | So I added 'apci=off' in bootoptions in grub and it booted |
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| 11:27.11 | Spine | as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting |
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| 11:29.47 | teraflops | Spine: idk, maybe it get fixed once you install the proper firware/microcode/whatever packages |
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| 11:30.57 | Spine | teraflops: Thanks, I'll continue poking around |
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| 11:42.24 | fireba11 | hi, i'm using a small atom board as NAS running debian. i got no bios options about HD power down, and they keep spinning all the time. i can manually power them down with hdparm -Y but setting the spin down time with hpdarm -S gives no error but not the expected result either. is there any linux function from kernel or somesuch that can trigger spindowns for cases where the HDs won't do it themselves? |
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| 11:46.48 | teraflops | fireba11: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hdparm#Power_management_configuration look at the udev rule |
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| 11:47.48 | fireba11 | teraflops: thanks, found that too. hdparm -S doesn't have any noticable effect though, so the udev rule probably won't either. did set it up just in case though |
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| 11:48.14 | teraflops | fireba11: but you want -B to avoid spinning rigth? |
| 11:48.49 | fireba11 | teraflops: -B gives a sata error. apparently the drives do not support that |
| 11:48.57 | teraflops | :S |
| 11:50.14 | teraflops | fireba11: -B works even on a bananapi arm thingy |
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| 11:51.27 | fireba11 | one should thing a WD green should support that sata command ... |
| 11:52.44 | teraflops | fireba11: works with caviar black here, but I think is not related to the hdd brand/model |
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| 11:52.52 | preschema | hi, i'm trying to get flash working with chromium. i put in /etc/apt/sources.list the line "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free", but when I do " aptitude -t jessie-backports install pepperflashplugin-nonfree", it says "ERROR: failed to retrieve status information from google : W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551". what should I do? |
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| 11:54.42 | fireba11 | :-( |
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| 11:58.37 | teraflops | fireba11: oh, what does `sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i management` say. change sda with the correct drive |
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| 12:00.44 | teraflops | fireba11: also tun it with no grep and look at Commands/features: EnabledSupported: |
| 12:00.49 | teraflops | s/tun/run |
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| 12:02.17 | teraflops | well it does support it |
| 12:02.54 | fireba11 | scratches head |
| 12:02.58 | teraflops | heh |
| 12:03.28 | teraflops | fireba11: what value did you try for -B ? |
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| 12:05.02 | fireba11 | teraflops: tried a couple, same respons no matter what i use it seems |
| 12:05.25 | teraflops | yeah but im curious which values? |
| 12:05.33 | teraflops | -B 255, -B 254 ... |
| 12:06.07 | teraflops | fireba11: tried setting up the udev rule and then reboot? |
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| 12:06.44 | teraflops | perhaps it needs to set it up prior mountung the drive? (just guessing) |
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| 12:06.47 | fireba11 | tried 255,245, 128, 32, 2 ... |
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| 12:06.59 | teraflops | mounting* |
| 12:07.15 | fireba11 | that i can try |
| 12:07.18 | teraflops | yeah |
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| 12:07.36 | teraflops | then recheck with hdparm -I |
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| 12:18.00 | fireba11 | says the same as bevore |
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| 12:26.30 | teraflops | hmm no idea then sorry |
| 12:27.24 | keltvek | I tried to install debian netinst iso on my fujitsu server, but it always hangs/black screen when I select Install. Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong? I already tried most of 8.x versions and 7.9. It's always the same. |
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| 12:39.06 | brigo | keltvek, wrong kernel cpu version? |
| 12:39.18 | andy_lv | Why bookmark bar is missing when openning a new tab in chrome? |
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| 12:44.36 | rdark | Any idea why apt-cache policy $package is not showing a version that is actually in the repository? |
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| 12:51.55 | keltvek | brigo: no. I could for example install openBSD/freeBSD amd64 version without problems. |
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| 12:58.30 | DoctorD90 | hello! i have on this pc 3Gb of ram. I would like to increase RAM. I read on the net. My cpu is an intel Duo T3200, with PAE support. With PAE support, I may install over than 4gb? or i will be limited by physic limit of cpu? (that i cant find out) |
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| 13:01.05 | H4ndy | DoctorD90: your CPU seems to pully support Intel64 so you have to uprade your system to amd64 to make use of the additional RAM |
| 13:01.13 | H4ndy | *fully |
| 13:01.26 | DoctorD90 | H4ndy, what do you mean? |
| 13:01.34 | DoctorD90 | im running debian 8 x64 atm |
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| 13:01.41 | H4ndy | PAE support just means that single applications can use more than 2GB per process |
| 13:01.42 | fireba11 | DoctorD90: then you are fine |
| 13:02.10 | DoctorD90 | ah! PAE is about application! not system wide...understood... |
| 13:02.22 | teraflops | DoctorD90: then PAE has no sense at all since it's for x86 kernels |
| 13:02.50 | DoctorD90 | and how may I find out the max memory support for my cpu? |
| 13:03.15 | teraflops | cheat sheet? |
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| 13:03.21 | DoctorD90 | im trying lshw, but cant find out |
| 13:03.38 | DoctorD90 | teraflops, on intel.ark (or ark.intel, i dot remmeber), i cant find out :( |
| 13:03.38 | cmtptr | it'll probably be limited by your motherboard |
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| 13:03.58 | zykotick9 | just notes, x86_64 is the 64bit kernel |
| 13:04.06 | teraflops | mobo yep |
| 13:04.07 | H4ndy | DoctorD90: http://ark.intel.com/products/37160/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T3200-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz-667-MHz-FSB-Socket-P?q=T3200 |
| 13:04.09 | DoctorD90 | uhm...let's check mothermoard... |
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| 13:04.38 | H4ndy | oh the entry is too old, it's not listed, sorry |
| 13:04.39 | DoctorD90 | yes H4ndy exactly. I cant find out 2max memory support" |
| 13:04.45 | DoctorD90 | :P never mind :D |
| 13:04.51 | teraflops | heh |
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| 13:05.06 | H4ndy | yeah the Intel Ark is only partly useful for older CPUs |
| 13:05.16 | DoctorD90 | i open again lshw and check about motherboard :D |
| 13:05.34 | H4ndy | But I guess 8GB should be fine |
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| 13:05.40 | tipo | why would a solid state drive be limited in write speed between 100KiB/s and 50MiB/s? I'm using dd and /dev/zero |
| 13:06.03 | H4ndy | tipo: how is it connected? SATA? |
| 13:06.07 | DoctorD90 | basing on pc, on some forum i find out 4gb...but each forum shows different ram type -.- ... |
| 13:06.11 | teraflops | your mobo documentation has to mention it |
| 13:06.47 | tipo | H4ndy, mmmm... yeah it should be, but it's in a cdrom-->sata slot on a T500 thinkpad, so perhaps that is the bottleneck. never thought about it. |
| 13:07.33 | H4ndy | tipo: depending on the disk it could also throttle after a long period of sequential writes because of heat, especially new M2 format SSD are prone to this |
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| 13:07.46 | tipo | sweet. |
| 13:07.53 | DoctorD90 | example: https://www.compuram.de/it/memorie-ram,acer,notebook,aspire,5735z+serie.htm (max 8gb at start of paragraph, ram pc6400), and https://www.mrmemory.co.uk/memory-ram-upgrades/acer/aspire-notebook/5735 (max 4gb, ram pc5300) .... |
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| 13:08.23 | antosamalona | hello there.. |
| 13:08.51 | H4ndy | you can almost get a used new notebook for that money of 8GB tho :D |
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| 13:10.03 | H4ndy | DoctorD90: the official specbook linked lists 4GB as max: https://glorp.ninja/upload/44583.pdf_-_Google_Chrome_2016-04-30_15-09-13_3VzlU.png |
| 13:10.04 | DoctorD90 | H4ndy, ahahah ..nhaaa...im fine with this...i would just install a little bit of ram.. |
| 13:10.34 | DoctorD90 | H4ndy, where do you find it? |
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| 13:10.43 | H4ndy | the 2nd link has the PDF linked |
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| 13:10.55 | H4ndy | next to "Model Information" |
| 13:11.10 | DoctorD90 | lol, hexchat opens me the png |
| 13:11.26 | dokma | Using XFCE on Debian. Can't bind XF86AudioMute to anything. Seems like XFCE grabbed it and won't let me rebind it. Any workaround? |
| 13:11.36 | H4ndy | 2nd link of you I meant, the mrmemory page |
| 13:12.37 | H4ndy | The 4GB might be due to the fact that it ships with a 32bit system, if you are lucky you can use 8GB in it |
| 13:13.03 | DoctorD90 | yea...gotcha... |
| 13:13.10 | DoctorD90 | and yes....i think me too the same |
| 13:13.20 | DoctorD90 | uhm...aliexpress! to me! |
| 13:13.27 | H4ndy | in 4 weeks! |
| 13:14.36 | teraflops | dokma: go to keyboard settings/keyboard shortcuts and look if it's already bind, I guess |
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| 13:15.58 | teraflops | dokma: also idk if the xfce-volume-applet or whatever it's named takes care of it |
| 13:16.50 | DoctorD90 | H4ndy, in 2months.... |
| 13:17.01 | teraflops | haha a month for the ram ... I ordered ram too it was 54 days :P |
| 13:17.09 | H4ndy | yeah I had everything from 2 weeks to 3 months already ^^ |
| 13:17.18 | dokma | teraflops: it's the same wether I bind it there or not. That's the issue. |
| 13:18.05 | teraflops | dokma: look if there is a shortcut already created |
| 13:18.17 | dokma | teraflops: there isn't. |
| 13:18.54 | teraflops | dokma: perhaps the xfce4 mixer (if youre using it) is taking care of it |
| 13:19.16 | DoctorD90 | aliexpress has very good prices....but it takes centuries to ship packages -.- |
| 13:19.25 | teraflops | dokma: run joutnalctl -f and press the related key |
| 13:19.40 | DoctorD90 | today purchased orico 5hdd slot hub....now I have to wait.... |
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| 13:20.36 | dokma | teraflops: you mean journalctl ? |
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| 13:20.43 | teraflops | oh yes sorry |
| 13:21.12 | dokma | nothing |
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| 13:21.49 | dokma | at the same time the master channel gets toggled |
| 13:22.59 | dokma | If I bind mousepad to XF86AudioMute it does not get opened. So something, somewhere grabbed the key... |
| 13:23.39 | teraflops | dokma: nothing as in no output? you need to run it as root unless your user is on the systemd-journal group |
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| 13:24.26 | dokma | teraflops: it just does not print anything when I press XF86AudioMute |
| 13:24.30 | teraflops | ah |
| 13:25.04 | teraflops | dokma: do you use the xfce mixer applet? |
| 13:25.20 | dokma | yup, got it opened right now |
| 13:26.39 | teraflops | dokma: maybe is taking care of the key binds, tried killing/uninstalling just for checking it? |
| 13:26.41 | dokma | is english mandatory here? |
| 13:26.47 | teraflops | yeah |
| 13:27.00 | dokma | hmmm, great idea! |
| 13:27.38 | Haxxa | Hi how do I find the startup script location of a program (systemd)? |
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| 13:30.00 | dokma | teraflops: doesn't work with mixer applet killed either |
| 13:30.09 | dokma | the command line still works as expected |
| 13:30.18 | dokma | but something still holds the XF86AudioMute |
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| 13:33.12 | Spine_ | I found the ACPI issue, apparently debian didnt like running my GPU without drivers |
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| 13:36.25 | teraflops | Spine_: ah |
| 13:36.57 | Spine_ | Yea, was pretty stupid of me not using the integrated gpx to install |
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| 13:37.15 | Spine_ | Strange that gnome booted without complaint though |
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| 13:39.03 | teraflops | Spine_: if you install gnome it install xorg and lot of things too |
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| 13:43.02 | dylix | hi something keeps overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf.. i tried to setup manual ip configs, so im not sure wtf is overwriting it |
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| 13:43.34 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dylix about resolvconf |
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| 13:44.33 | samsul | dpkg: tell samsul about resolvconf |
| 13:44.47 | abrotman | dpkg: tell samsul about selftell |
| 13:44.58 | dylix | i dont have resolveconf install abrotman; so i dont know why it would be overwriting it |
| 13:45.39 | themill | dylix: can you pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 13:45.41 | tipo | test |
| 13:45.47 | teraflops | dylix: did you kill the applet in my case it respawns, I had to kill xfce4-volumed |
| 13:45.52 | teraflops | ups |
| 13:46.09 | teraflops | err^ dokma: did you kill the applet in my case it respawns, I had to kill xfce4-volumed |
| 13:46.09 | samsul | Wow |
| 13:46.13 | dylix | themill; its completely empty.. no applet, its a headless system |
| 13:46.27 | samsul | So there is Selftell |
| 13:47.04 | themill | dylix: do you have dhclient running (or network-manager or dns-trigger or ...) |
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| 13:47.50 | dylix | themill; NetworkManager is running |
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| 13:48.45 | themill | you probably want it neither installer nor running for that use case |
| 13:51.42 | dylix | i'll do it the ugly way and make resolve.conf unwriteable hehe |
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| 13:52.33 | themill | always better to correctly configure things rather increase the technical debt |
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| 13:53.40 | dylix | well it was working fine before last night.. nothing updated that im aware of |
| 13:53.51 | dylix | now something is just overwriting resolve.conf so i dunno |
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| 14:03.31 | JordiGH | Is there something like sshpass but for scp? |
| 14:03.48 | teraflops | dokma: if you kill xfce4-volumed and run http://ix.io/yuY you will see https://ptpb.pw/sG8f.png and if you open pavucontrol youll see how that keybind mutes master |
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| 14:13.44 | ewew | Hi. I just found that word wrap does not work correctly when generating print preview. |
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| 14:14.40 | JordiGH | With LibreOffice, you mean? |
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| 14:14.55 | ewew | no. From leafpad and mousepad. |
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| 14:15.34 | ewew | but if i make 80 characters and enter on the end of line. then it generates it properly. |
| 14:16.21 | ewew | Im just informing. I might be a issue on my side. |
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| 14:25.33 | donofrio | my wireless is not working ;( it's a 88w8335 Libertas, anyone have a howto in order to get it working? |
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| 14:30.55 | gliax | hi |
| 14:31.20 | gliax | if a very old legacy server doesn't support UTF8/unicode - I could use some western-* encoding instead (for western texts) - ? |
| 14:32.08 | zykotick9 | donofrio: what is the pciid? "lspci -nn | grep -i net" and look for something like [8086:10bf] |
| 14:34.17 | donofrio | zykotick9, - 11ab:1faa |
| 14:34.25 | zykotick9 | ,pciid 11ab:1faa |
| 14:34.26 | judd | [11ab:1faa] is '88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless' from 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=11ab:1faa |
| 14:34.46 | zykotick9 | donofrio: good luck... |
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| 14:36.13 | themill | !88w8335 |
| 14:36.13 | dpkg | The Marvell Libertas 88W8335 SoftMAC PCI chipset is not supported by any native Linux kernel driver. Known devices: Digitus Network DN-7001G-MV (rev 3), Encore ENLWI-G (with PCI ID 11ab:1faa), Linksys WPC54G v5, Netgear WG311v3, Netgear WG511v2, TRENDware TEW-423PI (versions B1 and B1.1R). For support of these devices, ask me about <ndiswrapper>. |
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| 14:59.45 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I just updated my Samba ADC system to the latest package (4.2.x from 4.1.x) and now the ADC is not authenticating anyone. During the install I saw "dpkg: warning: unable to delete old directory '/var/lib/samba/private': Directory not empty" which is a bit concerning considering the important stuff in that directory. |
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| 15:00.39 | devster31 | where are iproute2 settings saved? |
| 15:00.48 | devster31 | is there a file like network/interfaces? |
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| 15:09.59 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught, themill : i installed grub-pc (the command, dint give me options - 'aptitude install grub-pc grub-legacy-') |
| 15:10.35 | tuxopenwrt | although the the os-prober doesn't give me Debian in option - http://pastebin.com/TCWbgYgL |
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| 15:11.35 | Pegasus_RPG | WTF, Winbind isn't installed |
| 15:11.53 | Pegasus_RPG | (Samba log shows /usr/sbin/winbindd: Failed to exec child - No such file or directory) |
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| 15:14.22 | badloop | hmmmm |
| 15:14.33 | badloop | ooohh... udh |
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| 15:14.35 | badloop | *duh |
| 15:14.57 | Pegasus_RPG | Installing the winbind package fixed it. |
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| 15:32.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey um guys |
| 15:32.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | i forgot if i need a PAE kernel on my netbook.. |
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| 15:34.28 | toogley | how can i create a ascii variant of my gpg __private__ key? i know i can do this for my public key: gpg --armor --export <email>. But the created data shows -- BEGIN PUBLIC KEY -- . How can i do this to my private key? (i want to print it on paper to secure it) |
| 15:34.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | oh ok now i know |
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| 15:38.08 | toogley | ah, i just found the corresponding option for my problem.. |
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| 15:44.50 | tremon | hi all, simple question: what's the preferred method for upgrading a single package from -proposed-updates? Just add it in sources.list and use apt-get install? |
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| 15:48.44 | g00se | Slightly suprised that a disk image (SD card 4Gb) with 92Mb of 'real' files and one HUGE_FILE of zeros gzips to 200Mb. Does that sound right? |
| 15:49.09 | g00se | (Seems more than i thought) |
| 15:50.54 | tremon | was the disk image zeroed before you copied it? |
| 15:51.07 | tremon | (copied files into it I mean) |
| 15:52.02 | tremon | gzip does not skip the unused parts of the disk image |
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| 15:52.58 | g00se | I used dd if=/dev/zero to create HUGE_FILE |
| 15:52.59 | ScreamerX | how do i get a list of default installed packages? |
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| 15:54.13 | tremon | g00se: ok, that should normally work |
| 15:55.03 | g00se | Yes. I would have thought maybe c. 100Mb |
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| 15:55.16 | linxu | hi |
| 15:55.25 | linxu | I use iconv - writing to a new file results in correctly converted characters |
| 15:55.37 | linxu | but writing to the same file (using the temporary file trick thing), the encoding looks wrong |
| 15:55.38 | linxu | hmmm |
| 15:55.39 | linxu | why? |
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| 15:58.21 | tremon | ScreamerX: how do you define "default installed"? there's more than one way to install debian. I suspect you're looking for the task-* packages that tasksel uses |
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| 15:58.39 | g00se | linxu: And the 'trick' is ..? |
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| 16:00.32 | ScreamerX | tremon, i want to get a list of packages that were installed additionally after the installation |
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| 16:02.11 | g00se | If you haven't cleared the package cache you could file search on time |
| 16:03.12 | tremon | ScreamerX: oh, there's not a ready-made solution for that, I think :( . I personally use "aptitude search '~i!~M' to list all manually-installed packages, but that only works if you obsessively keep all dependencies marked as auto-installed |
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| 16:04.31 | tremon | I think you can use apt-rdepends to show all dependencies of a given task-* packages, but it's a lot of manual work to compare that with any current package list |
| 16:05.15 | zykotick9 | ^ "apt-cache rdpends foo" |
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| 16:06.03 | linxu | g00se: hm |
| 16:06.10 | valeness | Hello, I can't seem to get my sound to work. In pulseaudio volume control, the audio level is moving like I would expect it to be; but no sound it being output. I am connected to my TV through HDMI. Anyone have this problem before and know how to tackle it? |
| 16:06.23 | ScreamerX | tremon, thx |
| 16:06.27 | linxu | g00se: the reason was that my notepad++ editor is "smart" in hinsight of interpreting the encoding by the meta elements inside - instead using the encoding of the text file itself. |
| 16:06.29 | tremon | ScreamerX: there's also /var/log/apt/history.log, but it will show you package upgrades as well as new installs |
| 16:06.29 | linxu | case closed :O |
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| 16:06.53 | Javabean | double check that your mixer is set to use hdmi, not "stereo output" or something else |
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| 16:09.15 | cra1g321 | valeness, i had to open pavucontrol, go to "configuration" and set the profile for my gfx card to be " Digital Stereo (HDMI) 2 output" for sound to work |
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| 16:11.46 | valeness | Hmm, pulseaudio is set to use the HDMI output |
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| 16:17.43 | valeness | The only thing is in my alsamixer it looks like this |
| 16:17.45 | valeness | http://i.imgur.com/8rr8wM1.png |
| 16:17.54 | valeness | Which doesn't look right to me... |
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| 16:24.25 | Guest62463 | hi everyone, apt is stuck at "building databases of manual pages". i am running Debian 8.4 |
| 16:25.00 | Guest62463 | how do i get this process of building the database to complete? |
| 16:25.14 | Guest62463 | can install any packages otherwise |
| 16:26.18 | NyanCat | Guest62463: assuming it's not stuck, the obvious thing would be to wait? |
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| 16:26.52 | Guest62463 | i've tried waiting, several times, it shouldn't be stuck there for over 15 minutes, right? |
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| 16:27.22 | Guest62463 | theres hardly any Disk I/O either |
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| 16:28.34 | tremon | Guest62463: anything in dmesg, like disk or filesystem errors? |
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| 16:29.05 | Guest62463 | theres 3.1G available in / |
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| 16:30.04 | tremon | the man database is in /var/cache :) |
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| 16:30.26 | Guest62463 | [ 9.852657] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro |
| 16:31.07 | tremon | that's normal, you really only need to look at the last few lines. The kernel should be completely quiet if all's well |
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| 16:33.25 | Guest62463 | i don't see any FS Errors in dmesg |
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| 16:34.37 | RoyK | Guest62463: try to interrupt it and do an apt-get clean first |
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| 16:35.54 | Guest62463 | RoyK: ok, just did it, CTRL+C, apt-get clean then dpkg --configure -a again, now it is back to "building database of manual pages" |
| 16:36.16 | RoyK | nothing in dmesg? |
| 16:37.48 | Guest62463 | RoyK: please tell me what i should be looking for in dmesg |
| 16:37.58 | RoyK | Guest62463: just pastebin the lot |
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| 16:38.04 | RoyK | !pastebin | Guest62463 |
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| 16:39.55 | Guest62463 | http://pastebin.com/bnqRvgBG |
| 16:40.35 | RoyK | could you pastebin that with dmesg -T, please? |
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| 16:51.32 | Guest62463 | RoyK: http://pastebin.com/bnqRvgBG |
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| 16:52.45 | Guest62463 | sorry |
| 16:52.54 | Guest62463 | RoyK: http://pastebin.com/VYSWfwBJ this one is dmesg -T |
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| 16:53.53 | RoyK | Guest62463: don§t use pastebin.com - http://paste.debian.net/ is better |
| 16:54.26 | Guest62463 | RoyK: http://paste.debian.net/448176/ |
| 16:54.29 | RoyK | just wondering about this [Sat Apr 30 22:24:06 2016] perf interrupt took too long (2518 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 |
| 16:55.03 | RoyK | which timezone? |
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| 16:57.43 | Guest62463 | Indian Standard Time (GMT + 05:30) |
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| 17:09.21 | leafwiz_ | Hey. I'm having some problems with systemd http://pastebin.com/syFETwu9 |
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| 17:10.52 | leafwiz_ | I'm getting errors trying to enable the unit file. Trying to learn systemd. |
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| 17:43.31 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: hey did you get it figured out. os-prober doesn't need to see the Debian system, it's a tool for finding other OSs to add to the grub menu |
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| 17:50.10 | hammer | hey guys. I'm trying to boot debian 8.4 from a usb. when I access the boot menu of my windows 10 machine and select boot from the usb, it does nothing, it just goes straight to my normal os |
| 17:50.18 | hammer | any ideas why this might be happening? |
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| 17:51.28 | jmcnaught | hammer: how did you put Debian on the USB drive? |
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| 17:51.48 | aguitel | use dd command |
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| 17:51.53 | hammer | an application called Universal USB installer |
| 17:52.03 | hammer | what is dd command? |
| 17:52.23 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : oh i see. So, how do i test if the grub has debian chained after Windows, without rebooting |
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| 17:52.40 | markybob | !win32diskimager |
| 17:52.41 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 17:52.45 | markybob | hammer: use that. ^ |
| 17:52.45 | jmcnaught | hammer: some of these USB installer tools tend to butcher Debian iso images. |
| 17:52.50 | Pegasus_RPG | HOw can I check to see if a client hitting Samba's LDAP service is using TLS or not? |
| 17:52.51 | markybob | hammer: other apps fuck shit up |
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| 17:53.26 | hammer | ok, thank you guys, i'll try t hat |
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| 17:53.43 | aguitel | like this dd if=/dev/sda of=~/disk1.img |
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| 17:54.24 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: if you installed grub to the MBR (/dev/sda) then grub should now be the boot menu |
| 17:54.35 | zykotick9 | hammer: <sidenote> are you using the netinst image (or cd1/dvd1)? the Live images don't support UEFI... |
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| 17:55.40 | jmcnaught | aguitel: using cp is easier and probably faster than dd, and is what the install manual says to use |
| 17:56.03 | TomTomTosch | aguitel: now my img is overwritten with holiday pictures. what do i do? |
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| 17:56.21 | hammer | zykotick9: i was using the live one. I'll use the netinst this time |
| 17:56.21 | zykotick9 | TomTomTosch: hehe |
| 17:56.23 | aguitel | cry |
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| 17:57.06 | jmcnaught | aguitel: also that command would copy the contents of /dev/sda to an image in the home directory, is that what you want? |
| 17:58.00 | aguitel | jmcnaught, see that http://www.computerhope.com/unix/dd.htm |
| 17:58.29 | zykotick9 | aguitel: but YOU put the if and of backwards... for usb creation |
| 17:58.57 | jmcnaught | aguitel: i know how to use dd, i'm not clear on why you're telling someone to use /dev/sda as the input, and an image file as the output, when they're asking about copying a debian iso to usb |
| 17:59.24 | markybob | especially when they're on windows |
| 17:59.35 | zykotick9 | aguitel: ^^ why cp is easier |
| 18:00.30 | jmcnaught | i wish people would familiarize themselves with the install manual before offering installation advice |
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| 18:01.19 | TomTomTosch | don't say your wish out loud or it will never come true! |
| 18:01.41 | markybob | damn. we're all fucked now |
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| 18:04.09 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : I tried that and it ended in this error : http://pastebin.com/3p3i7Yii |
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| 18:06.47 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: i see. "fdisk -l /dev/sda" lists no EFI partition? I thought that Windows 8 required EFI (no BIOS) for booting |
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| 18:08.16 | teraflops | jmcnaught: you can do windows 8/10 in bios/mbr |
| 18:09.43 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : http://hastebin.com/tirofuxizu.vhdl |
| 18:09.46 | tuxopenwrt | i am not sure |
| 18:10.20 | jmcnaught | teraflops: ok thanks |
| 18:10.40 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : may be i should do it on sda5 ? |
| 18:10.43 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: that paste site doesn't work for me. can you please use http://paste.debian.net/ from now on? |
| 18:11.01 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: do you have a way to select that partition for booting? |
| 18:11.54 | jmcnaught | i don't think GPT parititon layout has a "bootable" flag |
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| 18:12.13 | tuxopenwrt | jcmnaught : sorry. this is the output : http://paste.debian.net/448198/ |
| 18:12.55 | tuxopenwrt | if there is some linux utility, then i can make it boot partition ? I haven't done this before so I am unaware unfortunately |
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| 18:14.38 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : I have the following on gparted : http://postimg.org/image/6latdsrkh/ |
| 18:14.57 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: seems the version of fdisk on your computer doesn't support GPT, "parted -l /dev/sda" should work. Also there's a pastebinit tool you might find useful, you can pipe output to it |
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| 18:17.14 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: ahhh... so your EFI partition is mounted to /media/usb0 for some reason (probably related to your original bootloaded on USB issue). It should be mounted at /boot/efi |
| 18:17.41 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: however this whole time you've been booting Debian in BIOS mode, not in UEFI |
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| 18:20.04 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: yes, UEFI was just not letting me do it |
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| 18:20.17 | juniSysadm | hi, every one! can someone help me on how to switch openldap consumer (replica) to an ldap standalone server? |
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| 18:20.25 | tuxopenwrt | and I forgot the windows password so I just made my system boot debian somehow to get working and never looked back |
| 18:20.51 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: this was probably because you used unetbootin to create the installer USB |
| 18:21.02 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : you are right, BIOS was my only option. How can i fix it |
| 18:22.09 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i am still not clear about how unetbootin works. I would first want this system to boot properly! |
| 18:22.19 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: you could research the error that GRUB is giving you. If you've done a backup then at this point I would consider reinstalling which would also let you solve some other problems, reclaiming the space wasted by Windows, giving you a chance to format as ext4 instead of ext3 |
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| 18:23.36 | JyZyXEL | are there any stateless password managers for Debian that generate passwords derived from information such as: full name+keyphrase+site name? |
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| 18:24.46 | juniSysadm | i am on Debian Wheezy, and run slapd 2.4. Replication by means of syncrepl was fine but how can i turn this consumer to an ldap standalone server? |
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| 18:25.30 | hop | should the new packages be already on the servers when a DSA gets sent out? |
| 18:25.58 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: this error could be related to the EFI/ESP partition being mounted at /media/usb0 instead of /boot/efi but I don't know enough to say how it would be involved with grub-pc and BIOS booting |
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| 18:27.35 | hop | i.e. "have been fixed in 5.5.49-0+deb7u1" went out some hours ago, but i can't aptitude upgrade it |
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| 18:28.38 | jmcnaught | hop: which DSA and package are you talking about? can you show the output of the command in a paste? |
| 18:29.24 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : so if i create another USB with unetbootin, will i be able to bootin to the original OS i am on ? |
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| 18:30.16 | hop | jmcnaught: see above: DLA 447-1, and there isn't really any command to paste, per se |
| 18:30.17 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: no, this problem happened because unetbootin broke the installer image you used, and during the install caused it to put the bootloaded on the USB stick instead of your harddrive. |
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| 18:31.02 | greenride | While installing Debian I get an error message about non-free missing firmware files. I installed those on a USB drive with msdos filesystem. However, they are not detected during the installation process. How do I resolve this? |
| 18:31.07 | jmcnaught | hop: some top secret reason you want us all to guess the package you're talking about? is it mysql? |
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| 18:31.37 | hop | sorry, copy and paste fail. yes, mysql |
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| 18:32.28 | TomTomTosch | greenride: did you follow the manual? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en |
| 18:32.29 | hop | jmcnaught: ^ |
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| 18:33.22 | jmcnaught | hop: i don't see the updated version available yet either so it must still be getting synced to the mirrors |
| 18:33.47 | hop | jmcnaught: so it's normal? that's all i wanted to know. thank you! |
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| 18:36.13 | greenride | TomTomTosch: As far as I can tell, I followed the manual. Based on my understanding msdos = fat32. I formatted my USB as fat32 and copied the firmware files to the USB drive. However, it isn't detected. |
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| 18:39.11 | tremon | juniSysadm: I think you only need to remove the syncrepl configuration from each database |
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| 18:40.56 | TomTomTosch | greenride: what chipset is this for and where did you get the firmware from? |
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| 18:44.11 | zykotick9 | greenride: <just observation> i've seen several people asking about loading firmware in the default installer, i don't remember anyone actually getting that issue fixed... the default suggestion always sees to be, use "unofficial" installer with firmware included. best of luck. |
| 18:44.48 | greenride | TomTomTosch: I used this firmware download: https://github.com/cernekee/linux-firmware/blob/master/bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw |
| 18:45.24 | greenride | TomTomTosch: Debian correctly detects the required firmware. |
| 18:45.36 | greenride | that is required |
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| 18:46.09 | TomTomTosch | zykotick9: non-free firmware will never be part of official debian. the unofficial installer we usually recommend is form an official source though. it's does not include firmware for all devices, that's why i like to ask first. |
| 18:46.21 | TomTomTosch | s/form/from |
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| 18:47.03 | greenride | zykotick9: I noticed many postings on the Internet about this issue. Thanks for the suggestion. I was planning to do that after asking here. |
| 18:47.11 | zykotick9 | TomTomTosch: i understand. i was just relaying my observation that "how do i load firmware" questions, don't really seem to get answered (that i've personally seen, i'm not saying it's not possible or anything) |
| 18:47.11 | jmcnaught | greenride: hey, lastnight I tried searching for the file name you provided and couldn't find a match, but i do see there is a firmware-bnx2 package with a bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw file |
| 18:47.35 | greenride | I saw that too. |
| 18:47.48 | greenride | I ended up getting the file from https://github.com/cernekee/linux-firmware/blob/master/bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw |
| 18:48.04 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : is there a way you can recommend so that i install debian on sda4 where windows is right now and then somhow access the filesystem on sda5 which has current OS |
| 18:48.17 | TomTomTosch | greenride: okay, that looks very wrong. sure that's the correct one for you? you are on a mips machine? |
| 18:48.34 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught: and use it ... i have many softwares installed which will be pain to reinstall |
| 18:49.03 | jmcnaught | greenride: the firmware.tar.gz file linked to in the "missing firmware" chapter of the install manual includes the .deb for that file. perhaps you should try following the instructions for using that instead of loose files |
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| 18:49.30 | jmcnaught | greenride: or give the unofficial non-free firmware installer a try, which is also linked to in that chapter |
| 18:50.15 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: if you install debian on a new partition you won't be able to use the applications on the original install (at least without some kludge) |
| 18:51.59 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: if you research the grub error you are getting you may find a way to solve it. i recommended considering a reinstall because you also have all that unused space for windows on top of your bootloader problems. i agree that reinstalling is not ideal |
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| 18:53.28 | greenride | jmcnaught: Thanks. Trying the debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-standard+nonfree.iso. |
| 18:53.31 | teraflops | greenride: is that for mips? |
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| 18:54.05 | greenride | teraflops: What is mips? |
| 18:54.22 | jmcnaught | greenride: don't use that one. use an installer image, not a live image |
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| 18:54.38 | teraflops | nvm since you dont know what it is i just read mips there |
| 18:54.48 | MarcL | Hi, has someone of you got problems with the new firefox 46.0? I have a black theme instead of the deafault white and some other strange dark color issues |
| 18:55.20 | jmcnaught | greenride: specifically i'm saying try the one linked to in the install manual chapter on missing firmwares |
| 18:55.42 | zykotick9 | MarcL: i don't recall the nick, but someone (perhaps you? perhaps not?) was asking about that yesterday... /me knows nothing, other then his firefox 46 is working ok... good luck. |
| 18:56.14 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell MarcL about cross post |
| 18:56.46 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: what's your original problem? seems to have disappeared in the scrollback. why do you want/need to change how your system boots? |
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| 18:57.51 | MarcL | jmcnaught, I understand thanks |
| 18:58.05 | jmcnaught | tremon: it seems when tuxopenwrt originally installed to their harddrive they installed GRUB on a USB stick (unetbootin failure), and now the USB stick is lost. they are trying to install grub on their harddrive now |
| 18:58.32 | teraflops | MarcL: I dont do firefox nor xorg in debian but are you sure ff is not doing gtk3 integration in the debian release? It does it e.g in archlinux. and if you do black gtk3 theme the ff picks it |
| 18:58.38 | MarcL | zykotick9, yes but I still have the same issue and nobody understoo |
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| 18:59.03 | tremon | ah, I thought he was trying to change to efi boot on a running system :) |
| 18:59.16 | MarcL | zykotick9,...what could be. |
| 18:59.37 | zykotick9 | MarcL: i have no clue... best of luck. |
| 19:00.10 | teraflops | MarcL: are you doing black gtk3 theme in your DE? |
| 19:01.00 | MarcL | teraflops, someone suggested me about gtk3 yes, I have downloaded some files from synaptic but the issue is still there |
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| 19:01.22 | teraflops | but are you doing black gtk3 theme in your DE? |
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| 19:01.42 | teraflops | or in yout gtkrc file? |
| 19:02.18 | MarcL | teraflops, the issue is just for Firefox |
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| 19:03.47 | MarcL | the theme, the right bar scroll, and some spaces in website to fill, that usually are white, now are all black. |
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| 19:11.40 | MarcL | that's the firefox unusual color http://www.imgpaste.net/image/qF7a |
| 19:11.50 | Guest50599 | hums. |
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| 19:12.45 | MarcL | teraflops, |
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| 19:12.54 | teraflops | yes |
| 19:13.00 | teraflops | ah |
| 19:13.45 | teraflops | MarcL: it looks to me that is picking the global gtk3 theme and is a dark one |
| 19:13.47 | SPF | same here |
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| 19:14.27 | MarcL | so what could be a solition? |
| 19:14.51 | teraflops | are you running jessie? |
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| 19:15.01 | teraflops | MarcL: are you running jessie? |
| 19:15.05 | MarcL | yes the last jessie version |
| 19:15.26 | teraflops | hmm I have a jessie vm here, im goint to check it |
| 19:15.44 | MarcL | thanks |
| 19:17.39 | MarcL | 8.4 64 bit |
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| 19:20.34 | teraflops | MarcL: hmm that's kde and btw I have iceweasel linked to firefox though |
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| 19:21.17 | teraflops | MarcL: look at lxapearance or whatever and chek what gtk theme are you using |
| 19:21.26 | teraflops | gtk3* |
| 19:21.53 | MarcL | teraflops, I am using Kde yes. ok now I check... |
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| 19:23.04 | MarcL | teraflops, adwaita? |
| 19:23.52 | LinuxGuy2020 | Is it possible to remove the deb-multimedia repository from my system(I know how to do that part) and downgrade or simply remove all packages from that repository? |
| 19:24.09 | LinuxGuy2020 | I'm thinking I have some instability from adding that repo. |
| 19:24.22 | zykotick9 | dpkg: tell LinuxGuy2020 about remove dmm |
| 19:26.10 | LinuxGuy2020 | zykotick9: thank you |
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| 19:32.11 | MyWay | hello, do you know of any driver for a virtual sound card? |
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| 19:37.39 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : i was offline. I dont know much abt EFI system, but if it can be changed to somehow so that i reboot and get back the same OS, I would be glad |
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| 19:39.54 | teraflops | MyWay: do you have a ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini? |
| 19:39.59 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: you can change it, but it's quite involved. Unless there's a real reason you need to change the boot procedure, I wouldn't. |
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| 19:40.17 | MyWay | no |
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| 19:41.04 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: if all you need is to restore grub so it boots, I would focus on that instead of efi/bios boot procedures |
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| 19:45.15 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: do you have grub-efi or grub-pc installed? and does your boot disk use MBR or GPT partitioning? |
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| 19:46.12 | teraflops | MyWay: just to be sure, mind creating one with this contents? http://ix.io/yBw |
| 19:46.29 | teraflops | then save it and relaunch firefox |
| 19:46.32 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : yes, grub-pc is installed |
| 19:46.43 | MyWay | I think you're writing to the wrong person, teraflops :P |
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| 19:47.05 | tuxopenwrt | i donno if it is MBR or GPT actually |
| 19:47.19 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : how can i find out ? |
| 19:47.56 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: there is no grub, as jmcnaught mentioned .. the grub was installed on the USB |
| 19:48.22 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: one way is to run "parted /dev/sdN print", and look for partition type |
| 19:49.05 | rcgth | tuxopenwrt: gdisk -l /dev/sdX is nice too |
| 19:49.05 | tremon | sdN of course being your boot disk (probably sda, but not certain) |
| 19:49.28 | tremon | yeah I vastly prefer gdisk, but it's less likely to be installed |
| 19:49.31 | teraflops | MyWay: heh sorry |
| 19:49.42 | teraflops | MarcL: just to be sure, mind creating one with this contents? http://ix.io/yBw |
| 19:49.56 | teraflops | MarcL: then save it and relaunch firefox |
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| 19:50.04 | tuxopenwrt | I got this error on trying to install grub on /dev/sda : http://pastebin.com/3p3i7Yii |
| 19:50.25 | MarcL | teraflops, I have changed the gtk3 to Default, Firefox colors are now ok, general fonts seems to be different now |
| 19:50.59 | teraflops | MarcL: ok so it's ff picking global gtk3 theme |
| 19:51.07 | tuxopenwrt | tremon, rcgth : i have this partition table : http://postimg.org/image/6latdsrkh/ |
| 19:51.12 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: yeah, you need a separate partition on a GPT disk |
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| 19:51.46 | MarcL | teraflops, [Settings] gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=0 |
| 19:51.47 | teraflops | MarcL: then you know what was happening since adwaita has a black version too and that file I post you can set adwaita to use non back version |
| 19:51.54 | teraflops | right |
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| 19:52.21 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: how do I get that ? |
| 19:52.38 | teraflops | MarcL: the gtk... line is behind the settings one |
| 19:52.46 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: the problem with that last output is that it's not accurate enough. I'm guessing that there is empty space in front of the first partition |
| 19:53.37 | teraflops | MarcL: about fonts ff is well know to behave like shot with some font famiies, perhaps you need to tweak your fontconfig file |
| 19:53.49 | teraflops | shit* |
| 19:54.03 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: gdisk output is : http://paste.debian.net/448228/ |
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| 19:54.13 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: yay! |
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| 19:54.47 | MarcL | teraflops, yes thanks |
| 19:55.01 | teraflops | MarcL: always do per user, ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf it also accepts ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.con.d/ |
| 19:55.05 | tremon | if you run gdisk /dev/sda, you can create a new partition, starting at sector 40 (you can use sector 34, but I prefer to keep things 4k-aligned) |
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| 19:55.48 | tremon | in gdisk, you need to assign it type ef02 |
| 19:56.35 | tremon | the partition should not be formatted, grub can write to it directly |
| 19:56.41 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : could please tell me the command to do it , i am scared to screw it up |
| 19:57.02 | MarcL | teraflops, is it necessary? what that is for? |
| 19:57.34 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: gdisk /dev/sda, then n for new partition |
| 19:58.02 | MarcL | teraflops, I go return later, thanks of everything man |
| 19:58.29 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : it is asking for partition number (7-128) |
| 19:58.36 | tuxopenwrt | shall i give it 40 ? |
| 19:58.42 | tremon | just use the default, it doesn't really matter |
| 19:58.48 | tremon | 7, that is |
| 19:58.50 | tuxopenwrt | ok |
| 19:58.55 | tremon | gdisk will not touch your disk until you tell it to (the major reason why I dislike parted), so you can show us the resulting partition table before writing it |
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| 19:59.16 | tremon | argh |
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| 19:59.33 | tremon | gdisk is starting out with the previous alignment |
| 19:59.55 | teraflops | MarcL: np |
| 20:00.12 | tuxopenwrt | what about hex code : http://paste.debian.net/448229/ |
| 20:00.32 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: i donno if it starts with prev alignment ... what shall i do |
| 20:00.34 | tremon | hex code is ef02 |
| 20:00.57 | tremon | no it's going fine |
| 20:01.20 | frostschutz | alignment hardly matters for the grub partition |
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| 20:01.37 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : just press enter now ? http://postimg.org/image/jax537b0x/ |
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| 20:01.53 | tremon | you can use P to print the new partition table first |
| 20:02.00 | tremon | easier to verify :) |
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| 20:02.57 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : it shows the following :- http://postimg.org/image/gd1jvmi6p/ |
| 20:03.48 | tremon | that looks fine. you can use W to write it and quit gdisk |
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| 20:04.26 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : so it did it successfully! what can i do to verify that things go right on reboot ? |
| 20:04.33 | tremon | it won't yet |
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| 20:05.00 | tremon | first, cat /proc/partitions and verify that the kernel now knows that sda has 7 partitions |
| 20:05.04 | tremon | if not, run partprobe |
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| 20:06.19 | tremon | then re-run grub-install /dev/sda . It should no longer complain about a missing partition |
| 20:07.33 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : i guess sr0 is the new one we created now ? http://paste.debian.net/448230/ |
| 20:07.54 | tremon | no sr0 is your dvd writer |
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| 20:07.56 | tuxopenwrt | wait there are 8 paritions |
| 20:08.02 | tuxopenwrt | oh okay |
| 20:08.16 | tremon | I would have expected to see a sda7 listed there |
| 20:08.19 | tuxopenwrt | so now i run grub install... no nned for partprobe |
| 20:08.59 | tremon | I'm not sure if grub reads the partition table itself, or asks the kernel. If the latter, it will still complain and you need to reboot before running grub-install |
| 20:09.19 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : it shows sda7 after partprobe : http://paste.debian.net/448231/ |
| 20:09.40 | tremon | good :) |
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| 20:10.45 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : http://paste.debian.net/448232/ |
| 20:10.53 | tuxopenwrt | works like a charm. You are GOD! |
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| 20:11.09 | tremon | don't forget to run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc as well |
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| 20:11.41 | tremon | debconf also needs to know that it should install grub upgrades onto /dev/sda |
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| 20:12.40 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : wait, i get this screen -- http://postimg.org/image/tffejv9ch/ |
| 20:12.45 | tuxopenwrt | what shall i do |
| 20:13.53 | tremon | you can check in /etc/default/grub what the current value is |
| 20:14.03 | tremon | you need the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= |
| 20:14.16 | tremon | it's probably empty, unless you manually edited it |
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| 20:15.37 | tremon | the next question is for the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line |
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| 20:16.45 | cybearg | My linux machines aren't detecting one another if I ping using their hostnames. I just get "ping: unknown host". How can I configure my Debian machines to recognize hostnames for pinging (and other network-related activities)? |
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| 20:17.05 | rcgth | cybearg: using dns |
| 20:17.11 | cybearg | If it matters, they're both using static IP addresses |
| 20:17.20 | rcgth | cybearg: you got dns server? |
| 20:17.24 | teraflops | Avahi |
| 20:17.39 | tremon | cybearg: putting them in /etc/hosts is the easiest |
| 20:17.42 | cybearg | rcgth: Would my router serve that function? |
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| 20:18.13 | rcgth | cybearg: could be |
| 20:18.16 | zykotick9 | cybearg: my non-dns method is using /etc/hosts |
| 20:18.23 | cybearg | tremon: Thanks, the easiest way is fine. :) I just want to shortcut it. |
| 20:18.29 | teraflops | cybearg: some routers do others don't |
| 20:18.32 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: oh thanks, I was looking which param to see. Yes it's null string |
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| 20:19.57 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: so i have this now : http://postimg.org/image/pxnnzha8h/ |
| 20:20.14 | tuxopenwrt | sda5 is my Debian partition... i think i shud do sda though |
| 20:20.19 | tuxopenwrt | as you pointed out |
| 20:20.23 | tremon | yes, only check /dev/sda |
| 20:21.27 | tremon | there is little reason to install grub somewhere else, you would still need to install some bootloader in /dev/sda because that's the only place your bios will look |
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| 20:21.48 | tremon | (well, and /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc -- but not inside partitions) |
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| 20:22.26 | rcgth | cybearg: take a look at dnsmasq if you want a simple dns+dhcp server. its extremely easy to set up. just a few lines of config. |
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| 20:23.09 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : http://postimg.org/image/msop7e87l/ i get this and when i say no |
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| 20:23.17 | tuxopenwrt | it comes back |
| 20:23.18 | toruvinn | ,v wine32 |
| 20:23.19 | judd | No package named 'wine32' was found in amd64. |
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| 20:23.41 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: use the space bar to put a check mark before /dev/sda :) |
| 20:23.44 | toruvinn | no easy way to check wine version in backports? |
| 20:23.54 | toruvinn | oh well, time to see the www |
| 20:23.55 | cybearg | I have a Samba-based network storage on one Debian machine and I can access it just fine from Windows, but I want to mount the shared Samba NAS to another Debian machine. This is the command I'm running, but I get an error(13): Permission denied response when running it: http://pastebin.com/smKVsjA9 |
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| 20:24.34 | TomTomTosch | ,v wine |
| 20:24.35 | judd | Package: wine on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; wheezy: 1.4.1-4; jessie: 1.6.2-20; jessie-backports: 1.8-2~bpo8+1; sid: 1.8.1-2; stretch: 1.8.1-2 |
| 20:24.43 | TomTomTosch | toruvinn: ^ |
| 20:24.46 | cybearg | What do I need to do to permanently mount the drive? |
| 20:24.47 | tremon | toruvinn: you can wine:i386 |
| 20:24.53 | tremon | argh. you *want* |
| 20:25.06 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : oops! I got this - http://paste.debian.net/448236/ |
| 20:25.25 | toruvinn | TomTomTosch, thanks, already on packages.debian.org ;-) |
| 20:25.38 | toruvinn | tremon, mhm, had no idea judd likes :arch |
| 20:25.44 | toruvinn | ,v wine32:i386 |
| 20:25.45 | judd | No package named 'wine32:i386' was found in amd64. |
| 20:25.49 | toruvinn | duh! ;-D |
| 20:25.53 | tremon | oh. judd doesn't, but apt-get does :) |
| 20:26.03 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: why the oops? looks normal to me (except for "no volume groups found") |
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| 20:26.17 | TomTomTosch | wine for amd64 does come with wine32. wine32 != wine:i386 |
| 20:26.19 | toruvinn | tremon, oh that's how i installed it, but battle.net app looks kinda weird, and since im on wheezy (still not a fan of systemd!) i was thinking of using some backports |
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| 20:26.48 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : that was for space bar :) Shall i do debconf now ? |
| 20:27.10 | toruvinn | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wine hrmf seems like there's a good reason to upgrade. |
| 20:27.14 | tuxopenwrt | although i dont knwo the parameters to put in |
| 20:27.22 | jmcnaught | toruvinn: not liking systemd isn't a very good reason to not upgrade. wheezy support has transitioned to LTS which is mostly server packages. also you can keep sysvinit when you upgrade to jessie |
| 20:27.23 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: no, debconf is the system behind dpkg-reconfigure. so you're all set (in theory...) |
| 20:28.04 | tuxopenwrt | tremon : i don't know if I should boot my system or wait for the day it crashes and i have to boot again |
| 20:28.15 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: your call :) |
| 20:28.45 | tremon | toruvinn: since you've already enabled i386, you can just enable backports the normal way |
| 20:28.45 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: thanks tremon for your help, i wish i can help you back in some way |
| 20:28.59 | tremon | tuxopenwrt: no need, but thanks |
| 20:29.01 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: you should probably test that it works now while your backups are fresh, but also have a debian install USB ready to use for rescue mode |
| 20:30.07 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : i am not sure how to make a debian install USB .. unetboot thing looks broken |
| 20:30.21 | tuxopenwrt | any recommended way ? |
| 20:30.31 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX" (details are in the install manual) |
| 20:30.48 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : okay, will do that! thank you! |
| 20:31.21 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: ^^ /dev/sdX being the usb device. make sure you write to the device, not a partition on the device |
| 20:31.42 | toruvinn | tremon, i'm actually considering going jessie, or even unstable, since it's my "fun" lap (good old x220 <3) |
| 20:32.10 | jmcnaught | toruvinn: jessie with systemd working great on this x220 |
| 20:32.14 | toruvinn | still, wine(32) ./whatever.exe surprises me every time. that "this should not work, seriously" feeling. |
| 20:32.27 | toruvinn | jmcnaught, i just dont like systemd, i'd rather go upstart or whatever ;-) |
| 20:32.43 | jmcnaught | toruvinn: well you can do that in jessie |
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| 20:33.34 | toruvinn | jmcnaught, i'll google later whether it's possible to easy apt-get dist-upgrade without even downloading systemd packages. should be, probably ;-) let's see what dpkg says |
| 20:33.39 | tremon | I'm guessing that openrc has a better future though, now that ubuntu is switching to systemd |
| 20:34.24 | toruvinn | http://deb.li/30Kby well that settles it. |
| 20:34.33 | jmcnaught | toruvinn: the way to upgrade to jessie without systemd is documented in upgrade instructions in the jessie release notes, which you'll want to read anyways |
| 20:34.37 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : okay, will keep in mind! |
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| 20:37.23 | jmcnaught | i'm pretty happy with systemd after just over a year of using it. journalctl is very nice, service units are easier to make than init scripts, the cgroups interface has some interesting stuff |
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| 20:44.44 | tuxopenwrt | tremon: is there a source where i can understand systematically what we did ... just curious |
| 20:44.57 | tuxopenwrt | any book or link .. |
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| 20:46.10 | tremon | http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/whatsgpt.html is a pretty good primer on GPT itself |
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| 20:46.45 | tremon | halfway through the page, there's a link to a page that's more specifically about booting: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/booting.html |
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| 20:47.27 | tuxopenwrt | awesome! thanks again |
| 20:47.27 | tremon | I don't have any good references for grub itself, or how it's managed within Debian |
| 20:47.46 | tuxopenwrt | no worries, I will take what i get :) |
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| 20:48.39 | jmcnaught | tuxopenwrt: if you're not going to reboot right now, make sure you have a debian installer USB handy for rescue mode incase a reboot just happens (loss of power for example) |
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| 20:49.14 | GRiZL0C | rry |
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| 20:50.11 | tuxopenwrt | jmcnaught : yes, on that now, sir! |
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| 21:05.23 | lxinu | hi |
| 21:05.37 | lxinu | so I use the recode command to decode the htmlentities in a text file (like a html file) |
| 21:05.51 | lxinu | however, I want that it skips (and not decode) the entity |
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| 21:06.11 | lxinu | one reason is also that it seems to decode nbsp not to a non breaking space unicode character (there is probably none, right?) - so I really need to preserve it. |
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| 21:11.07 | keinek | hi |
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| 21:11.58 | keinek | i have a problem with flash player in debian testing, browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash and flashplugin-nonfree was not solve my problem. |
| 21:12.12 | keinek | i must wait for nexts updates? |
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| 21:12.36 | keinek | there are any docs that i can read? |
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| 21:13.04 | keinek | jessie work fine. |
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| 21:24.42 | teraflops | heh yes jessie works fine |
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| 21:41.33 | wegg | How would you set debian up so that when a custom url is clicked on. . . it opens up in the appropriate application? |
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| 21:42.56 | wegg | like mailto:blah@foo.com |
| 21:45.00 | jmcnaught | wegg: In GNOME go to the settings, click on Details (bottom row), click on Default applications, select an application for Mail |
| 21:46.16 | wegg | and what file does that program edit? |
| 21:47.44 | jmcnaught | wegg: ~/.config/mimeapps.list |
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| 21:48.08 | wegg | sweet. |
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| 21:50.03 | wegg | So openbazaar links look like ob://blah |
| 21:50.23 | wegg | So how do I get that custom url to open in openbazaar? |
| 21:50.33 | teraflops | wegg: xdg-mime |
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| 21:51.01 | teraflops | for gnome gvfs-mime |
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| 21:51.18 | teraflops | for xfce exo-open |
| 21:53.02 | wegg | scratches his head |
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| 22:07.25 | teraflops | wegg: idk what bazaar is. Idk if there is already a URL hander. You might create your own one though. |
| 22:08.29 | ryouma | bazaar might be a dvcs |
| 22:08.47 | dax | openbazaar is a bitcoin marketplace thing |
| 22:08.54 | dax | unrelated to the dvcs |
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| 22:09.03 | ryouma | aha |
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| 22:09.34 | teraflops | Well you can create custom uri handlers |
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| 22:20.52 | wegg | xdg-mime worked. When I click on an ob:// link in chrome it opens openbazaar. |
| 22:21.07 | wegg | but openbazaar doesn't take me to the link I clicked on. . . |
| 22:21.21 | wegg | it opens it but doesn't take it that step further. |
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| 22:27.35 | teraflops | wegg: create a desktop file and set the command to chromium %s or whatever it uses, look at an existing .desktop file |
| 22:29.01 | koris | hm. I don't know much about systemd or sysvinit myself - can someone tell me why systemd was put in Jessie? I'm not complaining but I want to know why so many people are removing it from their systems |
| 22:29.31 | cra1g321 | koris, best to talk about it in #debian-offtopic |
| 22:30.17 | koris | I see, thank you |
| 22:30.25 | jmcnaught | koris: there's a lot of FUD about systemd which can be difficult to separate from legit complaints, but the decision was made by the Debian technical committee (CTTE) in 2014 during the development of Jessie. If you do some digging you'll find the discussions |
| 22:30.35 | teraflops | wegg: not sure, I guess it's Exec=chromium %u |
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| 22:35.57 | aguitel | anyway to install firefox in jessie ? |
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| 22:36.13 | markybob | aguitel: mozilla.debian.net |
| 22:36.21 | teraflops | you'll miss good old iceweasel :P |
| 22:36.24 | aguitel | a ok |
| 22:37.19 | TomTomTosch | teraflops: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/iceweasel-branding/ :P |
| 22:37.27 | teraflops | oh |
| 22:38.14 | teraflops | TomTomTosch: hey it's for ff 45, 46 is the current one in debian jessie :P |
| 22:38.56 | teraflops | well in mozilla.debian.net for jessie |
| 22:39.36 | TomTomTosch | oh no. damn software isn't supposed to change. what is this, arch?! |
| 22:39.42 | teraflops | heh |
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| 22:40.26 | markybob | i really don't know how people deal with rolling distros. i'd fucking shoot someone |
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| 22:40.53 | teraflops | markybob: I do arch in my workstation, and it's ok for m |
| 22:40.55 | teraflops | me* |
| 22:41.09 | teraflops | note the _for me_ |
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| 22:41.48 | teraflops | I suppose is the same as running sid |
| 22:41.57 | markybob | shudders |
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| 22:46.08 | Martyn | Anyone here have experience with virtual machines and using bridging to DHCP boot? ( br0 )( |
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| 22:46.46 | teraflops | Martyn: what's the real question? |
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| 22:47.05 | Martyn | I'm having issues getting DCHP booting using libvirt+KVM+br0 on debian 6 |
| 22:47.21 | Martyn | http://imgur.com/bVIwtBi ( screenshot from VNC of failed boot ) |
| 22:47.30 | Martyn | domain configuration : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16147479/ |
| 22:47.40 | Martyn | What could prevent a virtual machine from seeing the network properly on br0 such that it can't DHCP/PXE? |
| 22:47.55 | teraflops | Martyn: are you doing pxe? |
| 22:48.35 | Martyn | yep |
| 22:48.47 | Martyn | pxe, and I'm simulating a rtl8139 |
| 22:48.47 | teraflops | ah |
| 22:48.50 | aguitel | how choose with synaptic fastest mirror ? no option in |
| 22:48.52 | Martyn | I've also simulated an e1000 |
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| 22:52.05 | Martyn | I have ip_forward enabled |
| 22:52.10 | Martyn | here's the ifconfig |
| 22:52.28 | Martyn | @sf111:~# brctl show |
| 22:52.28 | Martyn | bridge namebridge idSTP enabledinterfaces |
| 22:52.29 | Martyn | br08000.0cc47a696f70nobond0 |
| 22:52.29 | Martyn | vnet0 |
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| 22:52.40 | Martyn | Ack |
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| 22:53.53 | Kirito | !make-kpkg |
| 22:53.53 | dpkg | make-kpkg is no longer the recommended method for building kernel packages. See <kernel handbook> for current instructions. It can be used to make a debian package for a custom kernel. See man make-kpkg, <kp mantra>. NOTE it does not automatically create header packages, needed for module-assistant and dkms. |
| 22:54.09 | Kirito | :| |
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| 22:54.22 | markybob | make-kpkg sucks |
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| 22:54.35 | Kirito | I was hoping for an actual link in place of <kernel handbook> |
| 22:54.47 | Kirito | !<kernel handbook> |
| 22:54.52 | markybob | Kirito: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 22:54.56 | Kirito | thank you |
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| 22:55.07 | markybob | Kirito: you probably want 4.5 and 4.6 |
| 22:55.27 | Kirito | Yep yep |
| 22:55.33 | jmcnaught | Martyn: does the VM get connected to the network if it boots from an ISO or disk image? |
| 22:55.41 | Martyn | nope |
| 22:55.44 | jmcnaught | Kirito: FYI you can message the bot |
| 22:55.53 | Kirito | Oh, hah, right >_> |
| 22:55.56 | Martyn | no connectivity .. which is odd, because br0 -is- working. The host itself has connectivity |
| 22:56.15 | Martyn | so the domain host has networking through br0, but the virtual guest does not |
| 22:56.51 | jmcnaught | Martyn: have you tried with something newer than squeeze? |
| 22:56.52 | markybob | Kirito: now i need to ask why |
| 22:57.10 | Martyn | jmcnaught : Not an option(tm) .. this is on a production machine. |
| 22:57.24 | Martyn | squeeze-lts is what I have to work with, until The Upgrade(tm) happens to jessie |
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| 22:57.32 | Martyn | but this -is- working on other machines |
| 22:57.40 | TomTomTosch | that's two things you don't want to have together >.> |
| 22:57.40 | Martyn | so I must be missing something basic, somehow |
| 22:57.48 | TomTomTosch | there is no squeeze-lts anymore. |
| 22:57.49 | jmcnaught | Martyn: squeeze-lts finished in february, no more security for squeeze |
| 22:57.54 | Martyn | Yes, I'm aware |
| 22:57.57 | Martyn | Move on, keep on topic |
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| 22:58.18 | Martyn | This =does= work on another machine, on the same cluster |
| 22:58.53 | markybob | Kirito: you know jessie-backports has kernel 4.5, right? |
| 22:58.54 | Kirito | markybob, Just general improvements. blk-mq became feature complete in just 3.16, but I believe it's had some notable improvements since. |
| 22:59.09 | Kirito | oh, does it? |
| 22:59.15 | markybob | Kirito: yes sir |
| 22:59.23 | Kirito | I thought that would be too new for backports, awesome then, thanks |
| 22:59.36 | jmcnaught | Martyn: honestly you should consider upgrading production machines to at least wheezy before putting more services or VMs on them. Have you compared the interfaces files for the working system with the borked one? |
| 22:59.46 | Martyn | on the machine that works .. there are no special POSTROUTING/PREROUTING rules, or other special IPTABLES rules |
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| 23:26.32 | KomputerKid | Hello. I am trying to setup sendmail for use with wordpress on my VPS running Debian Jessie, it does work, but it is painfully and I mean, painfully slow. It takes about 20 minutes for the mail to be received in my inbox. |
| 23:26.42 | KomputerKid | at least, the test mail got send |
| 23:26.50 | KomputerKid | as for wordpress, it took awhile. |
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| 23:27.39 | KomputerKid | actually for wordpress it still hasn't been sent |
| 23:27.41 | KomputerKid | :| |
| 23:28.55 | bazhang | try #wordpress KomputerKid |
| 23:29.56 | jmcnaught | KomputerKid: did you install sendmail, or you're trying to use the sendmail command provided by another package? Does this system receive mail, or only send? |
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| 23:30.17 | KomputerKid | I installed sendmail with apt |
| 23:30.21 | KomputerKid | and it is only for sending mail |
| 23:30.49 | jmcnaught | KomputerKid: Debian provides MTAs that are a lot easier to configure than sendmail. Does your ISP or domain name provider give you an SMTP server for sending mail? |
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| 23:31.22 | KomputerKid | I don't know if namecheap provides an SMTP server |
| 23:31.27 | KomputerKid | also my VPS is on digital ocean |
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| 23:32.13 | KomputerKid | oh wait |
| 23:32.15 | KomputerKid | lol there |
| 23:32.18 | KomputerKid | that's a little better |
| 23:32.22 | KomputerKid | >2 minutes |
| 23:32.25 | KomputerKid | vs 20 minutes |
| 23:32.35 | KomputerKid | okay lets see if I can get a password reset |
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| 23:34.11 | jmcnaught | KomputerKid: if you have an SMTP server you can relay mail through, the simplest would be to use msmtp-mta (or another null client), or to configure exim4 to use a smarthost (can be done through the debconf questions asked by dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) or postfix (can also be configured with dpkg-reconfigure) |
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| 23:39.51 | KomputerKid | yeah its working fine now |
| 23:39.54 | KomputerKid | that was... weird |
| 23:39.54 | KomputerKid | :P |
| 23:39.57 | teraflops | oh yes that phpmail thing is awful, I just do sane relay to a mail server with multi-domain support |
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| 23:42.23 | jmcnaught | KomputerKid: to be honest installing sendmail was a strange choice. it's very complex |
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| 23:43.30 | KomputerKid | yeah I'll look into other alternatives later, it works fine for now so that's all that matters. |
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| 23:43.52 | jmcnaught | KomputerKid: just be sure you haven't configured an open relay |
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| 23:46.10 | zz | same |
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