| 00:00.03 | RoyK | use separate drives for root and data |
| 00:00.12 | RoyK | full separation is always good |
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| 00:00.31 | RoyK | you find old 100GBish drives for close to nothing |
| 00:00.39 | r4ng3r | RoyK: i want to seperate linux installation @ssd and data and home @raid ssd... |
| 00:00.54 | r4ng3r | RoyK: i want to seperate linux installation @ssd and data and home @raid hdd |
| 00:01.10 | RoyK | r4ng3r: that's what I'd do |
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| 00:01.40 | RoyK | r4ng3r: just install on a small disk, move user accounts to /data/home or whatever you call it - change /etc/passwd |
| 00:02.03 | r4ng3r | RoyK: but howto move the home partition @the raid hdd? i found only information howto move home to an seperate partition |
| 00:02.32 | RoyK | mkdir /data/home ; mv /home/* /data/home |
| 00:02.37 | RoyK | and change /etc/passwd- |
| 00:02.39 | RoyK | and change /etc/passwd |
| 00:02.50 | RoyK | pretty simple |
| 00:03.07 | RoyK | implying /data is the raid, of course |
| 00:03.38 | r4ng3r | RoyK: thats all, so easy? |
| 00:03.46 | RoyK | that simple |
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| 00:03.57 | frostschutz | r4ng3r, servers might do it the other way around, root on HDD (it never reboots, and all programs only start once and run forever, SSD adds no value there) and database on SSD (busy databases need fast I/O so ...). |
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| 00:04.51 | r4ng3r | frostschutz: its an personal server, not enough money for large ssd :-) |
| 00:05.07 | RoyK | r4ng3r: btw, you might want to use a mirror of an HDD and an SSD with the HDD in write-mostly for safety |
| 00:06.37 | markybob | i hate that people keep talking down ssd. the new drives really don't have a write problem. they're fine. |
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| 00:07.13 | frostschutz | r4ng3r, not everyone has databases in the hundreds of gigabyte range... anyway, it all depends what you do with it. SSD makes things go fast but only if the data that needs to be fast is actually on it. and that depends entirely on your usecase, there is no general advice |
| 00:07.19 | RoyK | r4ng3r: also, using an SSD for the root doesn't really make sense since the root usually has very low I/O unless you're swapping, meaning you're low on memory, meaning you should buy more RAM :P |
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| 00:08.07 | r4ng3r | RoyK: i ve enough ram, small server 8gb ram |
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| 00:08.19 | frostschutz | as for caching, it works a lot less well than organizing data such that the hot stuff is on ssd directly. it might be okay if you simply can't organize it this way |
| 00:08.46 | RoyK | r4ng3r: then probably no proper use of swap unless you start a bunch of VMs |
| 00:09.06 | RoyK | r4ng3r: so better use a couple of old HDDs and use the SSD for caching |
| 00:09.48 | RoyK | frostschutz: have you tried lvmcache? |
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| 00:11.17 | RoyK | r4ng3r: is this server running or is it something you're setting up? |
| 00:12.13 | r4ng3r | it was running :-) |
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| 00:12.26 | RoyK | did it die? |
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| 00:12.38 | r4ng3r | harddisk upgrade, it was now for 6 years running without any raid |
| 00:12.58 | r4ng3r | nope it didnt die, harddisk space was low |
| 00:13.04 | RoyK | ok |
| 00:13.12 | r4ng3r | i bought new 4tb wd red and one 100gb ssd |
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| 00:13.37 | RoyK | just my basic setup: hdd for the root (or ssd+hdd with hdd with write-mostly) |
| 00:13.44 | RoyK | all data on the raid |
| 00:13.48 | RoyK | that's it |
| 00:14.19 | RoyK | and if you need a lot of iops for the data, well, use some ssd caching |
| 00:14.27 | RoyK | usually most people won't need that |
| 00:15.18 | RoyK | with 8GB of memory, you probably aren't planning on hosting much VMs so never mind SSD caching |
| 00:16.36 | r4ng3r | RoyK: mmmh okay, you think my setup with: linux @ssd and data @hdd with hw raid isnt rly the best option. but now i ve bought all the drive :-P |
| 00:17.00 | r4ng3r | no no vm or something else just file and email server |
| 00:17.03 | r4ng3r | and upnp |
| 00:17.09 | RoyK | hwraid? |
| 00:17.34 | RoyK | what sort of controller? |
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| 00:18.22 | r4ng3r | nope.. swraid |
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| 00:19.02 | RoyK | ok, install the system on raid-1 even if you only have one drive, so that you can add another if you feel like it later |
| 00:19.20 | RoyK | then setup the data raid and move homedirs over there |
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| 00:20.16 | RoyK | and use LVM everywhere |
| 00:20.20 | RoyK | that's my advice |
| 00:20.47 | RoyK | some ppl say LVM has latency issues |
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| 00:21.02 | RoyK | mostly that doesn't matter - even in large setups |
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| 00:21.18 | RoyK | I'm managing some 200 servers with LVM and it just works |
| 00:21.30 | markybob | those people are idiots |
| 00:21.57 | r4ng3r | okay thx a lot |
| 00:22.04 | RoyK | maybe, maybe not - I've seen some traces of it |
| 00:22.15 | koollman | lvm had issues. probably still has some. It usually isn't a problem unless you are trying to push very high performance hardware to the limit |
| 00:22.21 | markybob | i have plenty of benchmarks - even some i've done myself. lvm is fine |
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| 00:22.53 | RoyK | markybob: just saying there might be some issues, and that no, they aren't real problems |
| 00:22.54 | r4ng3r | conclusion, its not necessary that the home partition is one an extra partition just copy the folder on the other hdd and change etc/passwd right? |
| 00:23.39 | RoyK | if you have a large data raid, just put /home there |
| 00:24.05 | RoyK | don't use partitioning unless you really need it (and you probabaly won't) |
| 00:24.13 | RoyK | use LVM |
| 00:24.23 | RoyK | and use RAID |
| 00:24.41 | RoyK | mirroring for the root and something for the data |
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| 00:25.12 | RoyK | perhaps start with a mirror for the data if you're short of drives and then just expand that to a raid5 or something |
| 00:25.18 | RoyK | it'd dynamic |
| 00:27.51 | r4ng3r | but at my current configuration there s no need for lvm or? just put home @ md0/home and my files to md0/files |
| 00:28.26 | RoyK | just use lvm - ut doesn't hurt, but it *will* be more flexible |
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| 00:29.00 | RoyK | if you want to separate some data from others, it's fine |
| 00:29.34 | RoyK | just start out with a small filesystem of say 100GB for home and extend when needed |
| 00:29.52 | RoyK | or perhaps you want all of it in one filesystem |
| 00:30.07 | RoyK | but then, in a year, you want to separate something |
| 00:30.15 | RoyK | it'll be easier with lvm |
| 00:30.47 | RoyK | choose xfs if you want large filesystems (>16TiB) |
| 00:31.08 | RoyK | ext4 is better for smaller things, also, ext4 can be reduced, xfs can't |
| 00:31.52 | RoyK | normally, ext4 can't be extended to >16TiB if created as a 32bit filesystem (the default) |
| 00:32.12 | RoyK | also, if something bad happens to the filesystem, an fsck can take hours |
| 00:32.17 | RoyK | xfs is better at that |
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| 00:34.10 | r4ng3r | RoyK: grrrr more and more work..... |
| 00:34.43 | RoyK | r4ng3r: just trying to enlighten you a bit :) |
| 00:35.43 | r4ng3r | but its not so easy to create lvm on top of an sw raid, need to read more tutorials |
| 00:35.45 | r4ng3r | :-( |
| 00:35.52 | r4ng3r | but i think not today |
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| 00:36.12 | RoyK | vgcreate mydata /dev/md0 |
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| 00:36.21 | r4ng3r | thats all? |
| 00:36.29 | RoyK | lvcreate -n mysecretdata -L 1T mydata |
| 00:36.34 | r4ng3r | okay i stop the data copying.... |
| 00:36.58 | r4ng3r | i will restart toda afternoon... see you later? |
| 00:36.59 | RoyK | then create a filesystem on /dev/mydata/mysecretdata |
| 00:37.01 | r4ng3r | thx a lot |
| 00:37.02 | RoyK | mount it |
| 00:37.05 | RoyK | blabla |
| 00:37.11 | r4ng3r | okay i ll try i |
| 00:37.14 | r4ng3r | t |
| 00:38.41 | r4ng3r | just trink no my beer |
| 00:38.44 | r4ng3r | now |
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| 00:39.16 | r4ng3r | until its empty |
| 00:40.17 | RoyK | beer is always handy if fixing computers. If it doesn't work, pour a pint into it and wait for it to die thouroughly |
| 00:41.09 | r4ng3r | gn8 |
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| 00:53.01 | jak2000 | hi all |
| 00:54.09 | jak2000 | how to copy my ssh key from server1 to PC2 (actually i share the key with pc10 how to copy this key to pc2? thanks |
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| 00:55.04 | wbill | Hello how again do i get around the issues with actuating commands in cron as compared to the command line when i run a script on the command line it works fine but in cron it times out/exits hrshly after 30 minutes???? |
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| 01:06.34 | RoyK | jak2000: ssh-copy-id |
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| 01:37.30 | devster31 | hi guys, any idea why this happens? https://bpaste.net/show/c0e6e62ed860 I'm on armv8 cortex-a53 (rpi3) if it matters |
| 01:38.23 | devster31 | https://bpaste.net/show/114f2079efa7 added the gcc -v output |
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| 01:43.07 | jmcnaught | devster31: can you reproduce this bug on Debian? For Raspbian support you're in the wrong place, you want #raspbian |
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| 01:51.02 | jakew02 | Hi, I was hoping someone could give me a point in the right direction on including missing firmware files for my onboard wireless card during install |
| 01:51.46 | jakew02 | I have the firmware file that the installer is complaining about "mrvl/pcie8897_uapsta.bin" and it is in several locations both on my installation media, and on a usb drive I am inserting when prompted |
| 01:52.00 | jakew02 | Installer continuosly complains that it is not found |
| 01:52.01 | jmcnaught | jakew02: do you know what kind of wireless card you have? The general instructions are here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
| 01:52.17 | jakew02 | jmcnaught: surface pro 3 -- marvell |
| 01:52.46 | jakew02 | i don't believe this firmware is included in non-free |
| 01:53.40 | jmcnaught | jakew02: it seems this file is in the firmware-libertas package |
| 01:54.54 | jmcnaught | jakew02: and that package is in the firmware tarball linked to in the instructions i linked above. those instructions also link to an installer ISO that has the firmwares on it |
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| 02:03.30 | jml2 | jakew02, well you believe wrong :) |
| 02:04.24 | jml2 | jakew02, https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 02:04.38 | jml2 | (provides searches for files and packages) |
| 02:05.01 | jakew02 | jmcnaught: thanks! |
| 02:05.19 | jakew02 | jml2: yep, i just popped the deb for libertas into the firmware directory on my installation media.. |
| 02:05.59 | jml2 | jakew02, there could be dependencies |
| 02:06.56 | jml2 | jakew02, according to the output on the search page, there doesnt list any dependencies |
| 02:07.19 | jml2 | jakew02, (the latest is avail from debian backports) |
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| 02:11.35 | jmcnaught | jakew02: cool. that chapter in the installer manual documents where the installer looks, but the simplest is to use the firmware tarball it links to |
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| 02:13.52 | viderizer | why can't I speficy an ipv6 gateway outside of my netmask? |
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| 02:14.03 | viderizer | ipv4 has the pointopoint option |
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| 02:18.51 | jakew02 | jmcnaught: oh it needs the entire uncompressed tarball, not just the extracted deb package |
| 02:19.30 | jakew02 | is the /firmware directory on my installation media (usb stick) an appropriate place to put that then? the manual only seems to discuss using a separate usb disk or CD if i'm reading it right |
| 02:19.40 | jmcnaught | jakew02: well the tarball has all the firmwares that can be distributed, your hardware might need more than one. the instructions don't say to extract the deb itself |
| 02:19.48 | jakew02 | true^ |
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| 02:20.29 | jmcnaught | jakew02: there should be a second partition on the USB device that you can copy them to (you should format it fat32 first) |
| 02:20.57 | jakew02 | ok |
| 02:21.25 | jakew02 | limited USB ports here [meaning none] , i need one for keyboard/mouse since the typecover won't work without linux-4.x+ -_- |
| 02:25.01 | jmcnaught | jakew02: actually.. that second partition might not be the best place anymore, seems it's a EFI special partition now. |
| 02:25.39 | jakew02 | im installing from a microSD card with one partition |
| 02:25.49 | jakew02 | i just created a second partition on it to place the firmware files in |
| 02:25.59 | jakew02 | gparted is being a bit stupid right now though |
| 02:26.06 | jmcnaught | jakew02: but you could create one after it in the unallocated space, or use the firmware including iso linked to in that chapter of the install manual |
| 02:26.26 | jakew02 | yea, im probably just going to have to dothat |
| 02:26.54 | jmcnaught | jakew02: what command are you using to copy the ISO to the microSD card? |
| 02:26.58 | jakew02 | dd |
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| 02:27.28 | tortib | I'm trying to reset a password on my machine and i booted into single user mode using init=/bin/bash in grub and i get a prompt but my keyboard doesn't work |
| 02:27.28 | jmcnaught | jakew02: cp works too, that's what the install manual says to use and it's usually faster. just make sure to copy to the device, not a partition on the device |
| 02:27.41 | tortib | it also says bash: no job control in this shell |
| 02:27.45 | tortib | how can I reset my password? |
| 02:28.02 | markybob | passwd |
| 02:28.22 | markybob | oh. non-working keyboard |
| 02:28.43 | markybob | get a working one? :P |
| 02:28.45 | tortib | it says can't read configurations, error -71 when I plug the keyboard in |
| 02:28.48 | tortib | the keyboard works lol |
| 02:28.53 | tortib | just not in single user mode |
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| 02:33.00 | tortib | how do I reset this password? |
| 02:33.21 | jmcnaught | tortib: instead of init=/bin/bash does "systemd.unit=rescue.target" work? |
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| 02:36.24 | tortib | let me try that |
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| 02:39.59 | tortib | jmcnaught how do I enter that in? |
| 02:40.54 | jmcnaught | tortib: press 'e' in grub, go to the line that starts with linux, optionally remove the word "quiet", add "systemd.unit=rescue.target" |
| 02:41.03 | tortib | ok |
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| 02:42.03 | tortib | wellp |
| 02:42.08 | tortib | i'm reinstalling I guess |
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| 02:59.18 | jpastore | hi, I have a machine that during shutdown for a reboot is taking forever due to an unattended upgrade. Is there anything I can do to see the activity? |
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| 03:08.55 | awwal | Is there any on screen keyboard which include arabic layout? |
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| 03:09.08 | mynam | Has anyone seen apt complain about a depends that wont be installed but a package that meets the depends is already installed? |
| 03:09.12 | randomgry | awwal: for which environment / desktop ? |
| 03:09.24 | awwal | Tried onboard, xvkbd and florence but they dont have that feature |
| 03:09.26 | simonlnu | they depend on the app's settings, AFAIK |
| 03:09.27 | randomgry | mynam: pastebin please :-) |
| 03:09.44 | simonlnu | the gnome or kde ones probably can |
| 03:10.05 | simonlnu | (not some random gtk/qt app) |
| 03:10.11 | awwal | randomgry, running xfce/openbox here (but looking for a cross-platform one, if possible ) :) |
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| 03:10.53 | markybob | !tell mynam about bat |
| 03:10.57 | awwal | cross-platform? hehehe I meant non-DE/WM dependent :) |
| 03:11.49 | awwal | I think that only xvkbd, florence and onboard are available in debian, but not sure |
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| 03:13.39 | awwal | xvkbd offers changing keyboard layout (spanish, french, english.... --- only european labguages/latin characters) |
| 03:14.40 | randomgry | awwal: onboard, joggler are other options, or add the layout by hand -- the layout files are pretty straightforward (I edited mine for another environment a year ago) |
| 03:14.51 | mynam | markybob: http://pastebin.com/1Y0fJ5k3 |
| 03:15.04 | mynam | All three |
| 03:15.53 | markybob | mynam: oh. you're one of those sid people who complain when things break |
| 03:16.07 | markybob | mynam: sid support is on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 03:16.18 | mynam | haha. Not really complaining, just wondering if others have seen this. |
| 03:16.32 | markybob | mynam: wrong network/channel to ask |
| 03:16.44 | randomgry | awwal: https://sourceforge.net/p/florence/code/ci/master/tree/data/layouts/ |
| 03:16.59 | mynam | Even for a general question? |
| 03:17.11 | markybob | mynam: correct |
| 03:17.28 | randomgry | markybob: mind an msg ? |
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| 03:18.02 | markybob | randomgry: generally. in public others can help who might know far more than i do. |
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| 03:19.21 | randomgry | cheers |
| 03:20.13 | awwal | randomgray, i have onboard yes but not familiar with it's config files, i'll check them so. thanks for all the info:) |
| 03:20.18 | markybob | smoke break |
| 03:20.55 | randomgry | awwal: the florence folder I linked has layouts in xml files, then you can write your own and re-compile. let me know of your progress as you go. |
| 03:22.08 | awwal | randomgry ^ , seems that I will need time for achieve that. I 'll check that quietly so. thanks |
| 03:22.41 | mynam | So how do I ask the question in #debian-next when it's invite only? |
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| 03:23.21 | jmcnaught | mynam: that channel is on irc.oftc.net, this is freenode.net |
| 03:24.28 | mynam | Oh duh, sorry. Thanks. Still confused how this isn't the correct channel for general apt questions... |
| 03:25.19 | jmcnaught | mynam: you can ask here, but #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is the testing/unstable channel so it's a better place to ask |
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| 03:27.29 | awwal | mynam, connect to OFTC server then #debian-next channel |
| 03:28.09 | mynam | I already asked here and was turned away, all I was wanting to know is if others have seen the error. I'm just curious because this is the first time I've seen this error. |
| 03:29.57 | awwal | mynam, simply you have unmet dependencies; nothing new under testing/unstable. |
| 03:30.33 | mynam | I've seen unmet depends but in this specific case I have the package it wants installed... |
| 03:31.24 | markybob | mynam: thus ask them. this is for stable support. they know what's going on with testing/sid because they use it. we don't. |
| 03:32.20 | k_sze[work] | What do you call a service that is running but not actually used? e.g. a DHCP server is running but no client is actually going to make a request to it. |
| 03:32.46 | k_sze[work] | unused? idling? standby? |
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| 03:34.55 | jml2 | k_sze[work], uhhh |
| 03:35.09 | awwal | mynam, your problem is not related to apt/aptitude/dpkg. you have unmet deps. so it's a "branch" related, thats why people told you go debian-next |
| 03:35.32 | jml2 | stares at the uncurtained window |
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| 04:37.37 | qih | Hi, using a Debian AMD64-based GNU/Linux ... I managed to remove myself from all user groups except the $user and the extra one I wanted ... no Admin, no Sudo ... how can I fix this? |
| 04:38.40 | jmcnaught | qih: can you become root with "su -l" ? |
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| 04:39.13 | qih | No, there was no Root password, AFAIK |
| 04:40.31 | jmcnaught | qih: can you boot into recovery mode from the grub menu? |
| 04:41.04 | qih | Yes, but it comes up with an error, that root is locked, no access |
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| 04:47.53 | jmcnaught | qih: another option is to edit the kernel command line in grub, add "systemd.debug-shell" to the end of it. This will give you a root login on tty9 |
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| 04:48.30 | qih | jmcnaught: Thanks, will try that, so on the Grub menu, hit "e" and append? |
| 04:48.47 | jmcnaught | qih: yeah, add it to the end of the line that starts with "linux" |
| 04:49.20 | qih | jmcnaught: Will do, going now |
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| 04:56.24 | tortib | I used dd to copy the netinst iso to my flash drive and it isn't being detected when I plug it in |
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| 04:58.02 | jmcnaught | tortib: you were trying to change a password right? the trick i recommended to qih above might work for you too. make sure to stop the debug-shell service after though |
| 04:58.14 | qih | jmcnaught: Bk, that worked to set a new passwd for #root ... now what groups should a basic $user be in? |
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| 04:58.59 | qih | I was trying to add $user to the "dialout" group but everything else ... sigh |
| 04:59.09 | qih | but wiped everything* |
| 04:59.30 | tortib | jmcnaught awesome |
| 04:59.34 | jmcnaught | qih: you should stop that root shell with "systemctl stop debug-shell" now that you've changed the root password. |
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| 05:01.56 | jmcnaught | qih: file:///usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html also see the EXTRA_GROUPS in /etc/adduser.conf. My user belongs to $user, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, users, netdev, lpadmin, scanner, bluetooth |
| 05:01.57 | qih | jmcnaught: I did not, on it. |
| 05:02.17 | jmcnaught | qih: might as well add your user back to the sudo group too if that's what you prefer |
| 05:02.39 | qih | jmcnaught: Hahaha, yeah I can't even download a new program to help |
| 05:03.23 | jmcnaught | qih: you probably have the w3m program installed by default, it can read html files |
| 05:04.10 | jmcnaught | qih: but that document is also available as users-and-groups.txt.gz, read it with zless |
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| 05:04.26 | qih | jmcnaught: Checked, nope, the Linux I am using is Deepin Linux, a Chinese-developed Debian Sid |
| 05:04.43 | qih | jmcnaught: zless, aye aye |
| 05:05.25 | jmcnaught | qih: oh, well this is the reason that based on Debian distros are not supported here. Please find the support channel for your distro, or use Debian if you want support from this channel. |
| 05:05.33 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell qih about based on debian |
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| 05:06.28 | qih | jmcnaught: Is OK, everything mainly works. I have been using OpenBSD for some time, came back to that "systemd" thingy |
| 05:06.29 | randomgry | qih, hey I'm glad that thing exists, it should have a channel at freenode, could you perhaps suggest them that? |
| 05:07.24 | qih | jmcnaught: Point taken, but I figured it wasn't changed too much, and it hasn't. |
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| 05:07.59 | qih | There is a #deepin but no ones really home, so figured I ask here. |
| 05:09.24 | jmcnaught | qih: from now on please respect that this channel is only for Debian, not derivatives. There is a general ##linux channel you can use too. |
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| 05:11.03 | qih | jmcnaught: Noted. |
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| 05:11.34 | randomgry | qih, ah, I typoed :) thanks, I'm in it now |
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| 05:35.30 | qih | jmcnaught: Thanks for your help, appreciated. |
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| 06:11.29 | BigDru | I forgot my root login password but I have a standard user account that I can log into. I also know the su password to get that into root. If I use the su password as the login password for root, I get a login error. Any ideas as to why or how to fix? |
| 06:11.53 | cafuego | Err? |
| 06:12.05 | cafuego | The password for 'su' *is* the root password. |
| 06:12.14 | BigDru | right that's what i thought. |
| 06:12.20 | cafuego | Did you alias 'su' to sudo perchance? |
| 06:12.26 | polyphagia | root login might be disabled |
| 06:13.02 | BigDru | i dont think i aliased it to sudo. And the password for sudo should be the standard account's password. |
| 06:13.11 | BigDru | polyphagia, how would I check that? |
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| 06:13.29 | polyphagia | hmm that's just from ssh though BigDru |
| 06:13.33 | polyphagia | you're talking login? |
| 06:13.37 | polyphagia | local* |
| 06:13.53 | BigDru | local yeah. |
| 06:14.02 | BigDru | ssh wont work if it doesnt locally |
| 06:14.05 | jml2 | living la vita loca |
| 06:16.47 | BigDru | cafuego, no it's not aliased |
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| 06:20.17 | BigDru | polyphagia, so at the login I click "not listed?" and type in "root" w/o quotes. next. password: the pass i use to get su. and it says "Sorry, that didn't work. Please try again." |
| 06:22.45 | BigDru | I guess I dont necessarily need to log into the gui as root. :/ |
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| 06:34.47 | manik | HEllo. I have just installed Debian amd63, and every time I need to install soemthing from the command line, it says to put in CD |
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| 06:35.42 | jml2 | manik, you need to update sources.list |
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| 06:35.52 | manik | apt-get update? |
| 06:36.19 | L1313 | Having a problem dual booting with a macbook8,1. It only loads up a black screen and won't go past it. |
| 06:36.19 | jml2 | ( http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+wiki+sources.list) |
| 06:36.27 | L1313 | :X |
| 06:36.31 | jml2 | L1313, check out refind |
| 06:36.37 | jml2 | L1313, it should be able to help dual-booting |
| 06:36.42 | L1313 | I did |
| 06:37.03 | jml2 | L1313, well that could be a refind issue? |
| 06:37.25 | L1313 | jml2 I did and I'm using it. I've read the wiki on macbook's and still |
| 06:37.42 | manik | thanks |
| 06:37.47 | L1313 | hmm...didnt think that could be it since i loaded up ubuntu & arch without to much hassle |
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| 06:38.37 | jml2 | L1313, you could always try the troubleshoot faq on its site -- another tip is to rename grubx64.efi to BOOTX64.EFI and place it at the default location |
| 06:38.52 | jml2 | L1313, i tihnk the default location would be /efi/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi |
| 06:39.00 | jml2 | (even for macs) |
| 06:39.12 | jml2 | but i dont know how you have refind configured.. |
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| 06:39.43 | jml2 | (<efi partition>:EFI/BOOT/ if that is correct) |
| 06:40.00 | jml2 | i've done a boot on a mac mini without needing any refind... |
| 06:40.20 | jml2 | nor osx installed, by just having renamed grubx64.efi to bootx64.efi and place it in the default location |
| 06:40.31 | jml2 | was a long while ago .. so i cant recall much more than this |
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| 06:40.57 | jml2 | L1313, ^ |
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| 06:41.41 | L1313 | hmm lets give it a try |
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| 06:43.03 | jml2 | L1313, "Like rEFIt, rEFInd is a boot manager, not a boot loader; however, when paired with a kernel that includes EFI stub support, rEFInd can boot a Linux kernel without the help of any other boot loader" |
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| 06:43.08 | jml2 | L1313, http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/refind.html |
| 06:43.33 | jml2 | L1313, an efi-stub, if you're using that, is not grub.. |
| 06:43.43 | jml2 | L1313, it's a direct loading of the kernel from the uefi.. |
| 06:43.52 | jml2 | L1313, that's another alternative you can look at |
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| 06:46.09 | jml2 | L1313, you can use just the kernel image and copy it to the root of the efi partition |
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| 06:46.22 | jml2 | L1313, and i suppose if refind is set correctly it should scan for it |
| 06:46.49 | jml2 | L1313, question is if debian's kernels are compiled with efi-stub inside |
| 06:47.25 | L1313 | talk about 2advanced lol |
| 06:47.42 | L1313 | ok thanks for the details |
| 06:47.48 | jml2 | L1313, https://wiki.debian.org/EFIStub -- but dont use the efibootmgr command |
| 06:47.56 | jml2 | L1313, it's easy .. |
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| 06:48.23 | jml2 | L1313, boot to a rescue, and copy the kernel and initrd image to the root of the EFI partition |
| 06:48.50 | jml2 | L1313, though use the full name of the kernel (not their symlinks vmlinuz and initrd) |
| 06:49.05 | jml2 | L1313, "With rEFInd, the easiest way to boot Linux kernels that employ the EFI stub loader is to use rEFInd's automatic boot loader detection code" |
| 06:49.09 | jml2 | L1313, http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/refind.html#configuring |
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| 06:50.59 | L1313 | jml2 so instead of /boot/efi/EFI/debian/ its /boot/efi/EFI/optical ? |
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| 06:52.06 | jml2 | L1313, you have to use a boot-rescue, and make sure the "efi" partition is mounted, then you copy from /<mtnpoint debian>/boot/ vmlinuz<> and initrd<> --> to /<mntpoint efi>/ |
| 06:52.53 | jml2 | L1313, hte refind will look at "efi/linux/<vmlinuz kernel>" will look at "linux" in the path and say ok this is for "linux" and set a logo for it-- if you copy it just to the root it'll also work but refind won't set a linux logo for it |
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| 06:53.55 | jml2 | L1313, you just have to copy two files to the efi partition |
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| 06:55.29 | L1313 | got it |
| 06:55.35 | L1313 | thanks |
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| 07:08.24 | L1313 | jml2 http://www.tonymacx86.com/resources/efi-mounter-v3.280/ no need for booting to recovery mode |
| 07:08.34 | L1313 | Lets see if it works:D thanks |
| 07:08.39 | BinBasher | L1313: I can confirm that the refind iso works like magick |
| 07:08.52 | L1313 | ?? |
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| 07:09.46 | BinBasher | My efi got corrupt once, booted with a refind iso and reinstalled it from there |
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| 07:22.14 | L1313 | jml2 can't access tty; job control turned off |
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| 07:24.27 | jml2 | L1313, http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/ |
| 07:24.30 | jml2 | L1313, ^ |
| 07:24.42 | jml2 | L1313, you still have to consult the refind documentation |
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| 07:25.25 | jml2 | L1313, -- you have 2 basic options, you can keep trying to use efi-stub(maybe it can work somehow), or you can try to get grubx64.efi to boot |
| 07:26.22 | jml2 | L1313, if you want to try with "refind" you can do that too. Holding the "option" button on the mac power-up might be able to show the secondary linux icon to select.. |
| 07:27.03 | jml2 | L1313, You can try the non-refind (and non efi-stub) method later.... but try it it with both grub locations -- it's current grubx64.efi location and as a copy :ef/BOOT/BOOTx64.EFI |
| 07:27.21 | jml2 | L1313, I know debian works on macs, but the "boot-fix" procedure isn't fault-proof |
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| 07:27.54 | L1313 | ok thanks |
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| 07:30.00 | jml2 | there's another way as well, but that will break your "os x" in the firmware, and will later require to use a "bless" command from an OsX installer media |
| 07:30.09 | jml2 | lol |
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| 07:33.41 | introom | I understand the tesing will freeze sometime, but will sid ever freeze ? |
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| 07:35.08 | DHowett | introom: i think the point of sid is that it doesn't freeze |
| 07:35.16 | DHowett | well, one of the points. |
| 07:35.46 | introom | DHowett: I thought so. Someone told me it's not, so I asked here to confirm. |
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| 07:37.01 | ph88^ | does anyone know how to fix this package installation? http://pastebin.com/B5xm99uh |
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| 07:39.00 | DHowett | ph88^: ubuntu, while being derived from and sharing a packaging system from debian, isn't closely-related anymore. that said, it looks like they split the nginx package into nginx and nginx-common, and then decided that that was a bad idea and are trying to go back to a single package without properly noting that in the metadata |
| 07:39.16 | DHowett | I might suggest uninstalling nginx entirely (backing up your configs, etc.), and then installing debian instead |
| 07:39.26 | DHowett | I mean installing the new version not-as-an-upgrade. |
| 07:39.54 | ph88^ | installing debian ? |
| 07:40.03 | DHowett | it was a bad joke. :P |
| 07:40.07 | ph88^ | :P |
| 07:40.23 | DHowett | but uninstalling nginx and starting over from the nginx package would solve that issue |
| 07:40.28 | ph88^ | i don't think i ever gave the command "apt-get install nginx" |
| 07:40.30 | DHowett | make sure you do the apt-get autoremove |
| 07:40.31 | DHowett | oh, hm |
| 07:40.36 | DHowett | oh, actually |
| 07:40.43 | DHowett | just run apt-get autoremove. i failed to read the message (and so did you) |
| 07:40.49 | DHowett | and then do your upgrade as usual |
| 07:40.57 | ph88^ | i did autoremove, see paste |
| 07:41.04 | ph88^ | doesnt do anything |
| 07:41.17 | introom | why people perfer apt-get more than aptitude ,,,,, |
| 07:41.24 | DHowett | try manually uninstalling the two packages it mentions -- either through apt or through dpkg |
| 07:41.28 | DHowett | introom: interia |
| 07:41.30 | ph88^ | oki |
| 07:41.46 | DHowett | introom: also because apt-get will actually upgrade my machine but aptitude will spend 10 minutes on unsolveable dependency graphs before simply giving up. |
| 07:41.49 | DHowett | introom: so that's a thing |
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| 07:42.25 | DHowett | though i should have said "inertia" instead of "interia" as the former would have made more sense |
| 07:43.51 | introom | DHowett: the unresovable part makes sense. |
| 07:44.09 | ph88^ | well i just leave this package uninstalled, dont really need it ^^ |
| 07:44.22 | DHowett | ph88^: that's valid too ;) |
| 07:44.30 | DHowett | in that case, uninstall the main nginx package too |
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| 08:28.17 | pollopollop | hello |
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| 08:29.49 | pollopollop | thought it was the hd but checked it outn |
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| 08:30.32 | pollopollop | it's ok and I extraxted the data, |
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| 08:37.10 | pollopollop | bios says hd is not detected, how to make it boot? |
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| 08:38.11 | sIRwa2 | pollopollop: if the bios dont detect the drive, make sure its connected correcly |
| 08:38.35 | sIRwa2 | could be that it came loose a little by the fall |
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| 08:42.54 | hightower3 | Where do I find an accurate resource about installing Debian via a serial console? |
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| 08:47.35 | pollopollop | i'll open it up again.... bye |
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| 10:13.11 | gryllida | Sound starts to crack when the sound is bassish a little. Would like to purge the sound packages and re-install. Tried to purge pulseaudio but sound still plays even after reboot. What should I try next? It's Debian jessie. |
| 10:13.41 | gryllida | Most sounds play ok but when it is low frequency it starts to crack and becomes hard to hear. |
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| 10:18.43 | gryllida | I am about to follow advice from here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/realtek-alc883-sound-card-drivers-problem-4175471678/#post5001565 . |
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| 10:28.11 | mar77i | shales fist at people who ask and leave |
| 10:28.19 | mar77i | *shakes |
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| 10:32.35 | mar77i | slax0r: hey, did you solve the problem? so what I had to do, after I verified pm-suspend worked for me, the journal indicated that usb was the cause of the waking up - I ran journalctl --all -l -f in a terminal. I added the indicated usb modules to some unload list which is run before suspension, and then it worked |
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| 10:33.29 | mar77i | an immediate wakeup can indeed have different causes, and googling doesn't necessarily turn up much useful. |
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| 10:47.25 | Gryllida | now the sound is funny/noisy only at volume higher than 100%, it's acl833, |
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| 11:06.17 | Gryllida | not sure what to do - the advice on the web is a bit confusing |
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| 11:08.44 | Joost | my alt-gr key is functioning like a regular alt key, even though I have setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl in my initrc |
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| 11:17.35 | Gryllida | Kindly please help with the question I asked above; I would like it to work above 100% as well. |
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| 11:26.10 | nebg | do somebody here uses lxc containers on debian ? |
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| 11:37.57 | Twirl | anyone knows where to find different niceness benchmarks? I want to know if it actually makes any difference |
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| 11:52.18 | Twirl | there is literally no niceness value benchmarks on the internet? :o |
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| 11:55.27 | jelly | Twirl: ck was doing some tests, back in the day, while designing his cpu scheduler |
| 11:56.03 | jelly | Twirl: try asking in #ck over on OFTC if they can dig up a reference |
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| 11:59.05 | Twirl | yea well, i'm really surprised nobody has uploaded some benchmarks since it's so easy to renice a process and it's widely encouraged on the internet |
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| 12:00.19 | jelly | Twirl: I'm really surprised you haven't been able to find any |
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| 12:00.38 | Twirl | care to share? |
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| 12:07.13 | Twirl | linux "niceness" "benchmarks" and linux "renice" "benchmarks" yield 0 benchmarks in google |
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| 12:19.40 | scotepi | I'm having an issues in my lab setup. I have a new Windows DHCP server and it handing out IP's fine to windows PC, watching the packets everything is right but for some reason on Debian 8.4, fresh install I am getting a fqdn as the gateway when I type route. Is that normal? It is correct but I can't get out of the lab subnet |
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| 12:21.04 | scotepi | ok, so the showing the fqdn was a route flag but I still cant get out the router. The route line is |
| 12:21.23 | scotepi | 0.0.0.0 172.16.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 12:22.41 | scotepi | which looks just like my working production PC's. Other PC's on the network can get out that gateway so I know its not a gw issue |
| 12:22.54 | tjg1 | how can i get a list of packages installed from backports? |
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| 12:31.12 | scotepi | if traceroute is all *** that means it has no idea where the first hop is correct? |
| 12:31.29 | jjformat | correct |
| 12:32.04 | scotepi | but there is a route with route and it's correct... |
| 12:32.18 | scotepi | I know tis not not my VM stack because I did a netinstall fine |
| 12:32.38 | p3rs3us | hey guys, after installing nvidia non-free drivers to replace nouveau driver, the fontsize of all my applications in (including XFCE windows) became very small. This includes what I am currently reading in xChat. Do you guys know how can I change the default fontsize used by the system? |
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| 12:33.13 | jjformat | scotepi i've a router that doesn't accept certain request; when i use traceroute i'm not able to see the first hop |
| 12:33.25 | jjformat | and i see *** |
| 12:33.33 | scotepi | other pc's on the same subnet work though |
| 12:33.52 | p3rs3us | Until now I could only change directly in XFCE->Settings->Appearance->Fonts but this only changes the fontsize of some applications. But how could I do it for all application like XChat? |
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| 12:34.49 | jjformat | strange |
| 12:35.06 | jjformat | then it's a problem on your pc, not the router |
| 12:35.35 | scotepi | I'll try reinstalling the vm and see if that fixes it |
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| 12:41.00 | gabrimonfa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:45.05 | brigo | gabrimonfa, what versions? |
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| 12:46.58 | gabrimonfa | brigo, wheezy up-to-date has imagemagick version 6.7.7.10-5+deb7u4, jessie 6.8.9.9-5+deb8u1 |
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| 12:47.32 | brigo | gabrimonfa, i know that, what is the version with that bug and the version with the bug fixed? |
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| 12:49.26 | digidog | ok,... old but new again, I can't remember what I have done to solve the issue when an USB stick won'T let me edit files or permissions. I know there was sth I did. The fstab entry looks liek this atm: UUID=XXXX-XX-XX /media/usb-stick/portable vfat noauto,rw,async,user 0 2 |
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| 12:50.15 | digidog | I know that fat formatted sticks have limited/no permission management |
| 12:50.21 | gabrimonfa | brigo, it was fixed (mitigated?) in 6.9.3-10, but in debian patches are backported to previous versions so it is not clear to me how much debian versions are affected |
| 12:51.06 | digidog | But I thought that mounting stick via fstab user/rw makes it "open" to use |
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| 12:51.58 | brigo | gabrimonfa, then check the changelog of the package. |
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| 12:52.24 | digidog | does it has to do with noauto? I also told PCmanFM not to automaticly mout sticks. I have to click on them to mount. This has solved issues here on reboot with stick still in. |
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| 12:53.43 | digidog | should I add umask=0000 ? |
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| 12:54.03 | brigo | gabrimonfa, or use the tracker https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/imagemagick |
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| 12:55.32 | brigo | gabrimonfa, the list of security bugs: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/imagemagick |
| 12:59.22 | digidog | ok, JFYI: removing asyn and adding umask=0000 helped. stick mounts and is fully accessable |
| 12:59.34 | gabrimonfa | brigo, thank you, stock packages are indeed vulnerable |
| 12:59.42 | digidog | typo: asyn(c) |
| 13:00.27 | brigo | gabrimonfa, np :) |
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| 13:06.49 | galex-713 | Where do gcc search <[â¦].h> files? |
| 13:06.58 | galex-713 | is there a path defined anywhere for includes? |
| 13:07.18 | galex-713 | or is it just âeverything in /usr/include including subdirectories and so onâ? |
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| 13:32.33 | galex-713 | bon tant pis jâai inclus tout /usr/include, câest sale mais voilà quand on sait pas⦠|
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| 13:33.24 | galex-713 | dites, y a un moyen pour demander à dpkg dây lancer gtags à chaque fois quâil installe quelque chose dans /usr/include ? |
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| 13:37.12 | brigo | !fr |
| 13:37.12 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debianfr. |
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| 13:41.11 | galex-713 | oops, wrong channell |
| 13:41.45 | galex-713 | well letâs translate: hey, is there a way to ask dpkg to run gtags each time it installs anything into /usr/include ? |
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| 13:48.00 | themill | galex-713: you could do it from an apt hook or, better, make a local package that declares a trigger on that path. |
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| 13:49.07 | Mazhive | how can i properly debug sftp i canot log in any more ... |
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| 13:51.19 | Saichovsky | . |
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| 13:51.24 | Saichovsky | Hello people |
| 13:51.29 | Saichovsky | quick question |
| 13:51.45 | Saichovsky | I would like to restrict curl to make a connection only using a specific source port |
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| 13:52.12 | Saichovsky | e.g. curl http://example.com:8080 would have example:8080 as the destination host:port |
| 13:52.31 | Saichovsky | but I would like the source port to be a specific port number or within a specific range |
| 13:53.02 | Saichovsky | that way, I would be able to restrict what URLs a user can access using curl on iptables |
| 13:53.09 | Saichovsky | how do I go about doing that |
| 13:53.14 | Saichovsky | or what options do I have |
| 13:53.16 | Saichovsky | ? |
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| 13:54.34 | Saichovsky | r/linux |
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| 13:55.46 | RoyK | Saichovsky: I doubt you can tell curl to do that |
| 13:55.52 | RoyK | Saichovsky: why would you? |
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| 13:57.59 | Saichovsky | long story |
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| 13:58.04 | Saichovsky | some kind of security measure |
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| 14:02.17 | jackcom | ifconfig |
| 14:02.18 | jackcom | bash: ifconfig: command not found <â whatâs wrong? |
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| 14:02.46 | JonJ | jackcom: ifconfig probably not in the $PATH of your user |
| 14:02.52 | Thraul | are you running as a user? or root? |
| 14:03.11 | jackcom | user |
| 14:03.15 | jackcom | Thraul: |
| 14:04.00 | jackcom | Thraul: ? |
| 14:04.38 | Thraul | as JonJ has said its not in your path |
| 14:04.59 | Thraul | you need to run as root (or sudo) |
| 14:05.00 | jackcom | lol |
| 14:05.02 | jackcom | su - |
| 14:05.21 | zinx | or just type the full path (/sbin/ifconfig) |
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| 14:05.35 | jackcom | i did it whit âsu -â |
| 14:05.37 | jackcom | lol |
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| 14:12.19 | Mazhive | can som one tell me why i cannot login with sftp and it used to work before.. client log _-->http://paste.fedoraproject.org/362968/57267146/ |
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| 14:16.13 | JonJ | The hyperestraier bug search on the debian.org/Bugs/ site gives me a 403 error when clicking the link |
| 14:16.29 | themill | Mazhive: «debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).» it looks like you logged in just fine |
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| 14:16.56 | Mazhive | yeah but it disconnect after the last line |
| 14:17.15 | Mazhive | even in filezilla it tells me its not connected.. |
| 14:17.31 | Mazhive | i am workin on the server log one moment. |
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| 14:23.18 | RoyK | Mazhive: does ssh work? does manual sftp work? filezilla can be a bit bitchy at times |
| 14:23.27 | Mazhive | ssh works |
| 14:23.47 | Mazhive | manual no file zilla no.. |
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| 14:26.07 | RoyK | Mazhive: do you have something like this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server? Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server |
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| 14:26.59 | Mazhive | this is a part of /var/log auth.log http://paste.debian.net/681551/ |
| 14:27.04 | Mazhive | yep.. |
| 14:27.22 | RoyK | Mazhive: you might want to use rsync instead of scp |
| 14:27.32 | RoyK | a bit better for most things |
| 14:27.35 | RoyK | or everything |
| 14:29.15 | Mazhive | royk.. thanx for the tip but that is not adressing the issue that is taking a different aproach to the same goal.. ;) |
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| 14:29.47 | Mazhive | it might be better but then i have still the problem.. |
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| 14:30.26 | RoyK | does sftp work with other hosts? |
| 14:30.32 | mo1991_ | hi |
| 14:30.46 | RoyK | Mazhive: as in servers |
| 14:30.47 | jackcom | i canât drag and drop on vmware. why? |
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| 14:31.06 | Mazhive | as in client to other server .. |
| 14:31.15 | RoyK | yes |
| 14:31.29 | Mazhive | hmm point... lets check. ( allthough it used to work.. before ) |
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| 14:34.23 | xreal | I've mounted tmpfs to /mnt/tmp. "df -h" says, 37% in use, but it's empty! What's wrong here? ;) |
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| 14:34.48 | Mazhive | yep filezila sftp connects to different server |
| 14:34.54 | zinx | xreal: PEBKAC |
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| 14:35.28 | xreal | zinx: god bless you |
| 14:35.29 | Mazhive | so client to server should work |
| 14:35.47 | jackcom | i canât drag and drop on vmware. why? help me |
| 14:36.51 | xreal | zinx: what's exactly wrong here |
| 14:36.59 | jelly | xreal: physical machine, full vm or containerized? |
| 14:37.26 | xreal | jelly: physical |
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| 14:38.03 | Mazhive | i have to mention that lately i changed some chipersuite settings but i think that would not effect the sftp i think since this is apache related.. |
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| 14:39.05 | jelly | xreal: pastebin the output of "uname -a; echo; df; echo; df -i". Which debian release? |
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| 14:40.00 | Mazhive | on file zilla client i get the Received unexpected end-of-file from SFTP server |
| 14:40.01 | Mazhive | Error:Could not connect to server |
| 14:40.22 | Mazhive | manual i get see log file |
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| 14:44.00 | Mazhive | server side ssh.conf http://paste.debian.net/681565/ |
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| 14:44.17 | xreal | jelly: http://pastie.org/pastes/10825691/text?key=qhtsi55s57bjt6b7ii6ytq |
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| 14:46.59 | Mazhive | actually its /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 14:47.31 | xreal | jelly: ping? |
| 14:49.27 | Mazhive | and this is /etc/ssh_config http://paste.debian.net/681569/ |
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| 14:49.52 | Mazhive | server side.. |
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| 14:57.35 | Mazhive | so.. |
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| 14:59.37 | jelly | xreal: did you create and delete any files on /mnt/tmp, or did you just mount it? |
| 15:00.03 | xreal | jelly: I've created and deleted them. "ls -al" only shows . and .. |
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| 15:01.57 | jelly | xreal: you got running processes keeping the files open, then, most probably. lsof +aL1 |
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| 15:02.41 | xreal | jelly: nope, nothing writing in there, no file in there. |
| 15:02.52 | jelly | xreal: did you run it as root |
| 15:02.54 | xreal | jelly: I've just unmounted and re-created it. Now it's empty. |
| 15:03.01 | xreal | jelly: normal bug I think. Thanks for help. |
| 15:03.27 | jelly | if you were able to umount it then nothing was keeping files open |
| 15:03.34 | xreal | jelly: that's what I said ;) |
| 15:03.38 | viderizer | is there a reason for a pointopoint-equivalent networking option not existing for the inet6 family? |
| 15:03.54 | xreal | jelly: There are often unexplainable bugs in Debian. I've learned to live with them. |
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| 15:04.40 | jelly | xreal: that's a reasonable attitude for both free and closed software |
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| 15:05.15 | xreal | jelly: Sure. But closed software often fixes bugs faster, since they get paid for it. |
| 15:05.41 | barubaru | They also hides the bugs more often. For the same reasons |
| 15:05.48 | xreal | barubaru: sure. |
| 15:06.16 | Mazhive | Nobody ?? |
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| 15:07.22 | tortib | the winetricks pkg doesn't seem to exist in debian 8 |
| 15:07.26 | tortib | how can i install it? |
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| 15:12.19 | Thraul | its in jessie. have you enabled the contrib in your sources? |
| 15:13.00 | tortib | no |
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| 15:15.14 | Thraul | add contrib to your /etc/apt/sources.list so it becomes something like 'deb http://mirror.overthewire.com.au/debian/ jessie main contrib' then run apt-get update then you can apt-get install winetricks |
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| 15:15.55 | Thraul | change the web address for your mirror |
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| 15:29.32 | tortib | Thraul you there? |
| 15:29.38 | tortib | I followed this |
| 15:29.40 | tortib | https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 15:29.44 | tortib | and added contrib non-free after the main repo listings |
| 15:29.50 | tortib | and it says 404 |
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| 15:29.59 | tortib | i just want to install winetricks man this should be that freaking hard |
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| 15:30.02 | greycat | *which line* is 404ing? Replace that line with one that works. |
| 15:30.14 | tortib | I don't know WHAT to replace it with |
| 15:30.15 | greycat | ,v winetricks |
| 15:30.16 | judd | Package: winetricks on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 0.0+20121030+svn918-1; jessie/contrib: 0.0+20141009+svn1208-2; stretch/contrib: 0.0+20151116-1; sid/contrib: 0.0+20151116-1 |
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| 15:30.20 | Mazhive | works again than you.. |
| 15:30.53 | Mazhive | k |
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| 15:31.30 | tortib | greycat the URL |
| 15:31.38 | tortib | for where the packages are kept |
| 15:31.40 | tortib | thats' what i need |
| 15:31.42 | greycat | WHICH LINE is failing? Is it one of the httpredir ones? |
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| 15:32.08 | greycat | !httpredir issues |
| 15:32.08 | dpkg | The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code). Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>. |
| 15:32.47 | greycat | Personally I've never had an issue with ftp.us.debian.org. I don't know who added those last two sentences or why. |
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| 15:32.59 | greycat | err, two clauses |
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| 15:33.35 | intothemountains | Mount is making me crazy: https://paste.debian.net/681593/ |
| 15:34.59 | Thraul | tortib: can you copy your sources.list for us? use paste.debian.net |
| 15:35.28 | greycat | Just fucking take httpredir out back and shoot it already, jeez. |
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| 15:35.45 | greycat | Pick a mirror, either a country-code round robin or not, and use it. |
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| 15:36.04 | Thraul | I just use my ISP's debian mirror lol |
| 15:36.06 | toruvinn | intothemountains, "user" iirc implies noexec/nodev |
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| 15:36.46 | greycat | the mount option "user" definitely implies "noexec", and that's a very common trap. |
| 15:36.47 | toruvinn | intothemountains, so specify "user" first. |
| 15:37.04 | toruvinn | intothemountains, mount /dev/mapper/hard /media/hard -t ext4 -o user,dev,exec |
| 15:37.09 | tortib | Thraul i got it to work |
| 15:37.17 | Thraul | cool |
| 15:37.26 | tortib | Thraul now i have winetricks installed |
| 15:37.29 | tortib | and I have to install quicktime |
| 15:37.38 | tortib | it says operation completed in the terminal |
| 15:37.45 | tortib | but winetricks list-installed doesn't show that quicktime was installed |
| 15:38.18 | intothemountains | toruvinn: oh my deity, thanks! |
| 15:38.26 | intothemountains | Just read the man page :-S |
| 15:38.32 | intothemountains | I didn't even think about that |
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| 15:39.40 | toruvinn | intothemountains, works quite often ;-)) |
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| 15:40.39 | leba2 | Hello. Yesterday I remember someone suggested some groupware packages, one of them being citadel. Which was the other one? |
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| 15:41.50 | Thraul | zimbra? |
| 15:43.47 | TomTomTosch | <jmcnaught> "leba2: if you are looking for groupware included in Debian, citadel and php-horde are a couple you could check out." |
| 15:44.40 | leba2 | Thanks sir |
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| 15:46.51 | leba2 | By the way, I've heard about an inventory software called glpi and would liek to try it. Unfortunately there are repos only for yum-like distros. Otherwise it has to be manuall installed |
| 15:47.01 | leba2 | By the way, I've heard about an inventory software called glpi and would liek to try it. Unfortunately there are repos only for yum-like distros. Otherwise it has to be manually installed. |
| 15:47.26 | greycat | So manually install it. |
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| 15:47.46 | leba2 | I.e., uncompress tar.gz inside httpd folder, configure soem permissions and settings, etc. |
| 15:47.51 | leba2 | *some |
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| 15:48.13 | asterismo | hi |
| 15:48.14 | greycat | Sounds like a typical PHP web app designed for the Apache module. |
| 15:48.59 | leba2 | But yesterday I was told Debian offered a large amount fo software so one should not need 3rd party repos, yet building and installing from source is equally safe. Would this software manual instalaltion be considered safe as well on debian? |
| 15:49.03 | asterismo | one question, is there any live streaming software that i can use in debian 8 jessie? i want to be able to upload a streaming to a server from a laptop or smartphone and then the server broadcats it |
| 15:49.28 | leba2 | greycat: ^ |
| 15:49.30 | asterismo | or maybe the same laptop be the streaming server? |
| 15:49.32 | leba2 | You can google glpi |
| 15:50.04 | greycat | I am not going to google things for you. You can do that. If you are completely uncomfortable installing PHP apps on a web server, then I don't know what to tell you. |
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| 15:50.35 | Walex | asterismo: there are several, try searching the packages web site. |
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| 15:51.13 | asterismo | Walex: maybe someone had a quick suggestion |
| 15:51.18 | asterismo | i'll look then |
| 15:51.31 | Walex | asterismo: the one I see often mentioned is icexast |
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| 15:52.33 | Mazhive | so Royk : i solved the issue.. and now we can talk about your proposition. ;) |
| 15:52.36 | buu | ffmpeg |
| 15:52.39 | buu | Always ffmpeg |
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| 15:53.05 | Walex | asterismo: try 'apt-cache search icecast' or fluendo |
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| 15:53.47 | EmleyMoor | buu: Talking of ffmpeg, do you know if it can do anything with the GPS data in my dashcam's .MOV files? |
| 15:53.52 | leba2 | greycat: I already did my homework. Just told in case you needed a quick reference. |
| 15:54.04 | leba2 | Please don't misunderstand me. |
| 15:54.15 | buu | EmleyMoor: I strongly doubt it |
| 15:54.19 | Mazhive | Rsync i have been using it for backups.. so how is this easier to use it with say a user who wants to upload stuff. |
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| 15:55.05 | leba2 | And I meant, can manual installations be considered "safe" enough on debian as well? And not just meaning php software |
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| 15:55.36 | leba2 | ^ Because I got a bit paranoid about debians policy of better not installing 3rd party software not included in repos. |
| 15:55.55 | leba2 | I have never used debian, I always used distros that safely relied in 3rd party repos. |
| 15:55.58 | tortib_ | this is what happens when I run winetricks https://ghostbin.com/paste/u6wen |
| 15:56.15 | leba2 | greycat: ^ |
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| 15:57.20 | greycat | It's a PHP web app. It is installed by extracting inside the web doc root. It's nothing. Just do it. |
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| 15:59.54 | TomTomTosch | leba2: the only thing we advised against was installing foreign sources, which could fuck up the package manager's ability to resolve dependencies. you can put into /var/www/html whatever you like. |
| 15:59.57 | leba2 | greycat: ok, so its process has nothing to do nor compared to installing 3rd party repos on debian, right? |
| 16:00.04 | leba2 | ^ Aaahhh |
| 16:00.10 | leba2 | greycat: nevermind. Thanks. |
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| 16:00.38 | leba2 | Hooray. |
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| 16:01.07 | leba2 | "Foreign sources" can mean "3rd party repos", right? |
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| 16:01.22 | greycat | yes |
| 16:02.24 | leba2 | Ok, thanks. |
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| 16:02.50 | tortib_ | greycat, any idea how i can install quicktime with winetricks? |
| 16:03.20 | greycat | Don't choose a random person and pester that person with questions. |
| 16:04.07 | leba2 | Any special reason for needing quicktime on wine? |
| 16:04.20 | tortib_ | the app i'm trying to use with wine requires it |
| 16:04.21 | greycat | And no, I don't know jack shit about winetricks or quicktime other than it sounds like some atrocious horror from the Microsoft world of the previous century. |
| 16:04.28 | tortib_ | there is a bug that brings up a black screen with that app using wine |
| 16:04.31 | tortib_ | ableton is the app |
| 16:04.40 | tortib_ | people said that quicktime will get rid of the black window |
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| 16:08.32 | jamesl | I am attempting to read from a microsd card formatted with a proprietary nokia OS but that still works (it works in the phone, but not in my PC) when I attempt to mkfs.vfat /dev/sda I get the error "no medium found" how to format the SD card so I can use it? I also tried parted /dev/sda but got the same error |
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| 16:10.22 | Walex | jamesl: you may have a not-so-good SD card reader |
| 16:10.57 | Walex | most SD card readers are fairly terrible as to speed and compatibility. |
| 16:11.01 | jamesl | walex: I tried both SD card readers I have. I know the SD card works, but it's just slow reading/writing to and from cards. |
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| 16:18.56 | Walex | yes, indeed. |
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| 16:19.23 | Walex | jamesl: look at 'dmesg | less +G' to see if there are errors reading. |
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| 16:20.07 | jamesl | no errors, just "[ 162.204291] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 |
| 16:20.07 | jamesl | " |
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| 16:22.04 | jamesl | walex: there are no errors |
| 16:22.27 | Walex | jamesl: try 'fdisk -l ...' |
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| 16:23.21 | jamesl | it shows /dev/ram* and my main hard drive, it does not show my SD card (sda) walex |
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| 16:23.52 | Walex | jamesl: it is unlikely that your SD card is 'sda'. |
| 16:24.18 | Walex | jamesl: try 'lsblk' and/or 'lsscsi' |
| 16:24.25 | jamesl | walex: this is a raspberry pi, main storage is /dev/mmcblk0, it says in dmesg my SD card is SDA |
| 16:24.26 | Walex | jamesl: and 'blkid' |
| 16:25.07 | jamesl | walex: blkid does not show /dev/sda, neither does lsblk |
| 16:25.21 | jamesl | just my raspberry pi's main storage |
| 16:25.30 | Walex | jamesl: the Raspberry Pi is a bit peculiar. Make sure that its SD reader is comaptible with the type of SD card you want to read. |
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| 16:26.05 | jamesl | walex: i'm using a USB SD card reader on the pi, the main storage for the pi is a different, working SD card. |
| 16:26.33 | Walex | is that an original Rapsberry Pi with the not-quite compatible USB sockets? |
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| 16:27.23 | zinx | thought all the rpis had a DWG_OTG interface, which i will refrain from calling USB |
| 16:27.48 | jamesl | it's a raspberry pi original model B. It has USB sockets, they are compatible |
| 16:27.54 | Walex | zinx: that's a bit too realistic :-) |
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| 16:28.35 | Walex | jamesl: perhaps then the USB SD card reader is incompatible with that compatibility... :-) |
| 16:28.56 | jamesl | the USB card readero n the pi works with another SD card I have |
| 16:28.58 | zinx | it's not event sending the media inserted event, sooo |
| 16:29.07 | zinx | erh, even |
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| 17:03.17 | greycat | jessie elinks fails on https://paste.debian.net/hidden/blah/ that someone just pasted in #bash |
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| 17:04.08 | thurstylark | in what order is the output of "apt-cache search foo" sorted? |
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| 17:05.56 | greycat | Pipe it through sort if you want it to be sorted. |
| 17:07.04 | thurstylark | greycat: Yeah, I do, but what's the reason for the way it's sorted? |
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| 17:07.15 | greycat | I would imagine it's NOT sorted at all. |
| 17:07.22 | greycat | Just dumping the results in the order they are found. |
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| 17:07.44 | TomTomTosch | probably in order it appears in the package list. |
| 17:08.16 | greycat | that's my guess as well, except lists is plural |
| 17:08.23 | dTal | Hey Debianistas. You heard of this? It's super sweet: https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/ |
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| 17:09.19 | thurstylark | alrighty, then |
| 17:09.24 | dTal | I think it might be the first mobile device ever to ship with "stock Debian", for some value of such |
| 17:09.36 | thurstylark | rolls eyes and pipes to sort and less |
| 17:10.31 | teraflops | s/debianistas/debianitas |
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| 17:11.40 | thurstylark | debianites |
| 17:12.35 | teraflops | thurstylark: well he said debianistas that sounds spanish to me but in spanish is debianitas |
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| 17:13.39 | thurstylark | debianauts |
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| 17:14.01 | mdlpe | hi, If I extend my /home with gparted does I need to modified my fstab or I can restart as this ? |
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| 17:16.17 | teraflops | mdlpe: do you plan to delete any partition for re using the space? do you use UUIDS or labels? |
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| 17:18.07 | thurstylark | mdlpe: as long as you haven't deleted a partition that was in fstab, or changed its identification, you should be fine. |
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| 17:21.56 | mdlpe | teraflops: I only extend my home with free space |
| 17:22.23 | mdlpe | and I use uuid |
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| 17:24.33 | teraflops | mdlpe: youll be fine, just do backups |
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| 17:25.16 | mdlpe | teraflops : thanks |
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| 17:28.00 | jhutchins | mdlpe: You might check the blkid to make sure the UUID hasn't changed. |
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| 17:31.12 | mdlpe | jhutchins: ok, thanks |
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| 17:37.21 | greycat | http://bugs.debian.org/797931 |
| 17:37.22 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/797931 in elinks (open): «elinks: Does not support SSL rehandshakes»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-03; last modified: 2015-09-03. |
| 17:37.41 | greycat | I don't know what the hell a rehandshake is, but they explicitly mention https://paste.debian.net |
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| 17:46.46 | forks | hey |
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| 17:48.21 | forks | I'm using dual boot (windows 7 + debian). I decided to fully reinstall my debian. While instalation, I chose not to install grub (as it incorrectly detects my windows 7). Now, I got two entries in my boot menu (configured from Windows lvl: Windows and Linux). Windows starts correctly, but Linux poitns to empty grub, what should I do to start linux kernel from grub? |
| 17:48.25 | forks | GRUB menu is empty |
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| 17:51.11 | greycat | Win7 + Debian should work, with GRUB on the boot disk. The KEY POINT, and I cannot emphasize this strong enough, is that you have to figure out whether the disk is formatted as GPT or MBR *BEFORE* starting the installation, and force the installation medium to boot in whatever mode is required to install in either GPT or MBR mode. |
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| 17:51.29 | greycat | The installer will not do this for you. I learned all of this the hard way. |
| 17:51.42 | forks | greycat: I remained MBR untouched |
| 17:51.59 | forks | I used windows tools to configure Windows/Linux |
| 17:52.03 | forks | but Linux points to empty grub |
| 17:52.09 | greycat | If your Win7 disk is formatted MBR but your motherboard is *capable* of booting UEFI, the installer will boot UEFI and then it won't work. |
| 17:52.25 | greycat | Unless you go into the firmware and force the CD to boot in "legacy mode" or whatever your computer calls it. |
| 17:52.45 | greycat | I do not have the slightest CLUE how to undo whatever it is you did. |
| 17:52.48 | forks | uefi is probably disabled, especially, that debian works for me (I instaleld it, like 2 years ago and it worked fine), today I decided to full reinstall it |
| 17:52.53 | greycat | All I know how to do is what I described. |
| 17:53.14 | greycat | "probably" is a key word here. It means "I don't actually know". |
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| 17:53.29 | forks | greycat: so you allowed GRUB to be installed and overwrite your MBR? |
| 17:53.33 | greycat | Yes. |
| 17:54.40 | forks | brb, have to check something ;] |
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| 17:57.56 | mdlpe | hi, coming back. All was fine with partionning. |
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| 17:58.44 | mdlpe | when I made fdisk -l, I found 15 ram disk, ram0 to ram15 ? |
| 17:59.23 | awwal | A bit confused about gui front-end for qemu/kvm. I use 'virt-manager', but I wonder if 'virtualbricks' is just another tool for work with qemu/kvm & have features similar to virt-manager? |
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| 18:02.50 | frost_ | hi again, I selected kernel from grub menu, did 'boot' but, got this error: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) |
| 18:02.56 | frost_ | what that could be, how to fix that? |
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| 18:06.35 | brigo | frost_, some kind of grub misconfiguration |
| 18:07.17 | frost_ | brigo: how can I fix it? |
| 18:07.41 | frost_ | I'm using dual boot win7/debian. While reinstalling debian, i decided no to install grub in mbr |
| 18:07.46 | frost_ | now, entering grub shows no info |
| 18:07.50 | frost_ | it's empty |
| 18:08.05 | greycat | 14:08 forks [594010f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.64.16.246] |
| 18:08.06 | greycat | 14:08 frost_ [594010f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.64.16.246] |
| 18:08.54 | frost_ | yup, it's me |
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| 18:09.15 | thurstylark | awwal: it seems that virtualbricks is indeed a gui front-end to qemu-kvm. An important distinction, though: virt-manager is a front-end for libvirt, which is another layer on top of qemu/kvm. |
| 18:09.17 | frost_ | sorry, i'm not IRC guy, using random nicknames and didn't remember that one :) |
| 18:09.33 | brigo | frost_, where did you install grub if not in the mbr? |
| 18:09.34 | greycat | Is your disk formatted in MBR mode or GPT mode? |
| 18:09.45 | distortedvoice | I have a script in init.d to start rtorrent. When I run |
| 18:09.46 | distortedvoice | update-rc.d rtorrent defaults 99. It doesn't start on boot. |
| 18:09.46 | frost_ | greycat: MBR mode |
| 18:10.10 | frost_ | brigo: in the same partition, when kernel linux |
| 18:10.18 | greycat | Install the grub-pc package (you may have to boot the CD in rescue mode or whatever). |
| 18:10.36 | greycat | Let grub-pc install GRUB into the MBR, normally. Also make sure os-prober is installed so it can find Win7. |
| 18:10.36 | brigo | frost_, wrong place. Bios can't reach it there. |
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| 18:11.39 | frost_ | greycat: Last time I did it, I overwitten MBR and wasn't able to run Windows (I dont have win7 cd right now, to fixmbr in case it wont work) |
| 18:11.52 | frost_ | brigo: so when/how should I move it? |
| 18:11.53 | greycat | Probably because os-prober wasn't installed for whatever reason. |
| 18:12.23 | frost_ | greycat: on install, it detected win7 as vista |
| 18:12.23 | brigo | frost_, use the install disk in expert/rescue mode and install grub from there. |
| 18:12.42 | frost_ | brigo: but where to install it, if I don't wanna overwrite mbr? |
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| 18:13.31 | brigo | frost_, you have to overwrite mbr or not install it at all. The mbr is the natural place for grub |
| 18:14.00 | brigo | frost_, why wouldn't you want to install grub in mbr?? |
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| 18:14.18 | frost_ | Last time (like 2 years ago) when I did it, I coudn't access Windows |
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| 18:14.35 | frost_ | I got options Debian/Windows Vista (which was detected as Win7) |
| 18:14.42 | frost_ | and entering Vista didnt boot |
| 18:15.01 | frost_ | I'm not at home right now, so I don't have win7 install cd, to fixmbr in case it could go wrong |
| 18:15.25 | frost_ | brigo: what do you mean, 'not to install it at all'? |
| 18:15.38 | frost_ | Can I enter linux without grub then? |
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| 18:15.52 | brigo | frost_, of course not. |
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| 18:16.24 | brigo | you can only enter linux installing it in the mbr or in a usb/CDROM and bootting from it. (Not easy) |
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| 18:16.59 | greycat | In the old days we had boot floppies. |
| 18:17.12 | greycat | A bootable USB thing is the current equivalent. |
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| 18:17.31 | frost_ | like installing grub on USB? |
| 18:17.43 | frost_ | and I mean, only grub, linux will be on hd? |
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| 18:18.35 | greycat | Everyone in the entire world who dual-boots Win7 + Debian, except for you, just installs GRUB in the MBR (or the UEFI equivalent). |
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| 18:20.21 | teraflops | frost_: out of curiosity why did you decide "no to install grub in mbr" |
| 18:20.48 | frost_ | I remember, that two years ago when I did it, it overwritten MBR and I wasn't able to access Windows |
| 18:21.09 | frost_ | I dont have win7 cd right now, so i'm not prepared to fix it, in case it will do the same |
| 18:21.21 | greycat | 14:11 frost_> greycat: Last time I did it, I overwitten MBR and wasn't able to run Windows (I dont have win7 cd right now, to fixmbr in case it wont work) |
| 18:21.36 | teraflops | frost_: but if install debian this way how do you boot into debian? |
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| 18:21.54 | teraflops | from windows? /me shrugs |
| 18:21.54 | greycat | He doesn't. That's why he's here. |
| 18:21.58 | teraflops | heh |
| 18:23.12 | frost_ | teraflops: I did like that: Installed win7, installed grub, it overwitten my mrb, i used win7 rescuse disc (which I dont have right now, as i'm not at home); did fixmbr, then used soft called easybcd to create entries for windows and for grub-linux |
| 18:23.30 | teraflops | oh boy |
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| 18:23.58 | greycat | you should NOT have to use the windows media to fix things. |
| 18:23.59 | frost_ | and i still had entry in grub, wchi pointed to vista, instead of win7 (it detected me like that) |
| 18:24.15 | greycat | Doesn't matter what label they slap on it. |
| 18:25.00 | mdlpe | frost, I don't understand. What do you want ? fix linux or windows ? |
| 18:25.29 | frost_ | Fix linux, I reinstalled debian and now I cannot enter anything in grub |
| 18:25.48 | greycat | 1) Get PC with windows on it. 2) Boot Debian CD. Shrink Windows partition. Create Debian partition(s). Install Debian. 3) Find out you are fucked because your motherboard supports UEFI but they gave you an MBR Windows hard disk. Start over. 4) Find out how to boot the Debian CD in "legacy mode". n+1) Install Debian in legacy mode. n+2) Done. |
| 18:26.09 | greycat | You didn't install GRUB. |
| 18:26.14 | greycat | You need to install GRUB. |
| 18:26.16 | teraflops | greycat: heh good 3) |
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| 18:26.30 | frost_ | i got grub, but on the save hd as linux kernel |
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| 18:26.35 | greycat | teraflops: as I said earlier, I learned what I know about UEFI the hard way. |
| 18:26.54 | teraflops | greycat: nah I just liked the 3) |
| 18:26.59 | greycat | frost_: YOU HAVE NOT INSTALLED GRUB. you did some crazy stupid shit that is equivalent to not installing grub. |
| 18:27.11 | frost_ | greycat: then why do i see grub? |
| 18:27.20 | greycat | I'm done. *plonk* |
| 18:27.53 | frost_ | I'm able to do: select (hd0, 4); kernel /boot/vm-[tab]; boot - and then I got kernel panic? |
| 18:28.01 | teraflops | frost_: you dont need all that clusterfuk, grub can handle booting windows |
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| 18:28.07 | greycat | !fixmbr |
| 18:28.07 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 18:28.11 | awwal | thurstylark, ok. via virt-manager creates, manages... VM's created for/in qemu/kvm. so seems that 'virtualbricks' can do that oo, not sure. anyways I will try it for clear doubts . thanks |
| 18:28.35 | greycat | Hmm, that factoid assumes EFI? |
| 18:29.02 | greycat | I wouldn't trust that factoid on a non-EFI system. |
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| 18:30.16 | frost_ | ok, then why grub detects my win7 as vista? |
| 18:30.24 | frost_ | it was during todays installation |
| 18:30.46 | thurstylark | awwal: again: virt-manager is a gui for libvirt, and not qemu/kvm directly. Switching may not work as you expect. |
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| 18:32.20 | awwal | thurstylark, oh, excuses. Ok, understood now. thanks |
| 18:32.34 | teraflops | frost_: it doesn't matter, anyway it's because os prober is rubbish |
| 18:32.40 | markybob | frost_ 13:24 < greycat> Doesn't matter what label they slap on it |
| 18:32.44 | markybob | round and round we go |
| 18:32.52 | greycat | That's why I /ignored him. |
| 18:32.57 | frost_ | last time it detected it as vista, it didn't allow me to boot |
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| 18:33.38 | greycat | He's never going to do things the right way because of his past experience, and nobody here knows how to deal with his clusterfuck boot strategy that he wants to employ. |
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| 18:33.45 | teraflops | frost_: then it was for another reason not because it said vista in the label |
| 18:33.49 | markybob | we don't care about "last time" or have any way to know how you fucked that up |
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| 18:33.54 | markybob | i'm done too now |
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| 18:34.41 | greycat | There is also an mbr *package* that I believe you can use to restore the Microsoft boot loader. I thought dpkg was going to tell us about that, but !fixmbr led to some grub-efi shit instead. |
| 18:34.43 | teraflops | lel os-prober magic http://ix.io/AJz |
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| 18:43.00 | rastos2 | Q: where I could find some information about how is Xorg server built on Debian (what are the actual commandlines) |
| 18:43.10 | rastos2 | ? |
| 18:43.15 | greycat | Download the source package and read the debian/rules file. |
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| 18:46.47 | awwal | Forgot how to list disabled services(systemctl). I dont find it in man/docs |
| 18:47.11 | rastos2 | greycat: I'm not familiar with Debian, so I need a bit of help here. This looks pretty close - http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xorg-server-source_1.18.3-1_all.deb |
| 18:47.38 | greycat | !source |
| 18:47.39 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
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| 18:48.25 | rastos2 | greycat: should I see the debian/rules file in that .deb file? |
| 18:48.38 | greycat | It's not normally in a file ending with .deb |
| 18:49.04 | greycat | It's in the source which you get with "apt-get source", or by downloading THREE files (none ending with .deb) and doing manual stuff on them. |
| 18:49.56 | thurstylark | awwal: systemctl list-units --all will show both enabled and disabled |
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| 18:50.45 | rastos2 | greycat: I'm actually not on the Debian right now, so I can't really do apt-get. However the .deb file contains data.tar.xz which in turn contains xorg-server.tar.xz which actually contains the source code. |
| 18:51.06 | greycat | But not the debian patches? I have no idea what your thing is. At all. |
| 18:51.24 | unborn | hey all.. is it okay to have sort of pptpd small server with one NIC attached to NAT network? I mean would it work? its for home usage only |
| 18:51.38 | greycat | You normally need a *-orig.tar.gz file, a *.dsc file, and some other file whose extensions escape me at the moment. |
| 18:52.04 | rastos2 | puts on the google-fu hat |
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| 18:52.41 | unborn | or do I need 2 network cards? |
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| 18:53.02 | rastos2 | greycat: ah, right. the web page https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/xorg-server contains links to xorg-server_1.18.3.orig.tar.gz and xorg-server_1.18.3-1.diff.gz |
| 18:53.10 | greycat | that looks better |
| 18:53.16 | thurstylark | unborn: I've done it before. Not very efficient, but it works. |
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| 18:53.44 | greycat | The debian/rules file will be in the *.diff.gz file. |
| 18:53.57 | awwal | thurtylark, I have tried that yet but it list active /inactive, not the disabled ones |
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| 18:54.50 | awwal | someone have told me how in this channel but I forgot the argument/patern needed |
| 18:55.16 | unborn | thurstylark: thank you.. its for my vnc.. I just want be able to connect home back to my moms and be able to assist her with pc and / or get some files from NAS.. vnc is encrypted is self and only that small server will be exposed with open ports.. I would love to install different protocol however they seems to me hard to setup |
| 18:55.40 | unborn | thurstylark: so only one networking card would be fine? |
| 18:56.05 | marc_ | guys, quick question... just intalled jessie and changed the repos to stretch. everything worked, exept that i cannot use the "touch to click"-option anymore and it's also gone in the settings. any suggestions? |
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| 18:56.37 | markybob | marc_: ask #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 18:56.48 | marc_ | alrighty,thanks |
| 18:56.57 | thurstylark | unborn: Why not use ssh instead? Way lighter on the network bandwidth, and easier to set up. If you're only needing to use vnc, an ssh tunnel will work. |
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| 18:57.54 | rastos2 | greycat: I think I've found what I was looking for. Thanks a lot. |
| 18:57.54 | ven00m | hola |
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| 18:58.33 | unborn | thurstylark: I am using ssh tunel :) right now but having trouble to find anything like gui thing for it.. also sometimes I close terminal accidentally |
| 18:59.15 | thurstylark | unborn: ahh. Well, I don't know of a gui for ssh tunnels, but you should really figure out that accidental closing problem :P |
| 19:00.02 | greycat | One answer would be to do the tunnels in a screen or tmux session and then detach it on purpose. |
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| 19:00.31 | unborn | thurstylark: yeah :) it happens to me when I do things quickly perhaps it would be just great if there is any way to tell my laptop (linux) to automatically connect into it.. vnc viewer with socks5 is not a problem |
| 19:01.03 | thurstylark | unborn: you can create an ssh tunnel in an init or systemd service no problem. |
| 19:01.31 | unborn | basically would be great to connect to linux server which is there already in sort of backgound mode.. |
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| 19:02.28 | greycat | If there's a particular tunnel you set up frequently, you could make a shell function/alias for it, so it's shorter to type. |
| 19:02.31 | unborn | heh thurstylark would you mind to point me right directions? I have passless ssh access to it.. is it matter of just adding command somewhere? |
| 19:02.39 | greycat | Or even a script in ~/bin/ but that seems like overkill. |
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| 19:03.59 | unborn | greycat: I would like to got this.. hut when I tried detach after logon in ssh from terminal my proxying just died |
| 19:04.01 | thurstylark | umbSublime: I would go with greycat's suggestion of a script that you run when you need to start up the tunnel. |
| 19:04.18 | thurstylark | unborn: |
| 19:04.21 | unborn | perhaps I was doing something wrong |
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| 19:07.16 | unborn | Im running it like this ssh -D 11000 george@serverip -N from terminal.. however when I try to detach it, it will stop working.. thurstylark so script.sh with command inside of it would be enough? I mean like ./script.sh and then close terminal? |
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| 19:09.25 | RoyK | unborn: add -f |
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| 19:09.58 | unborn | RoyK: on end? |
| 19:10.04 | RoyK | anywhere |
| 19:10.08 | RoyK | and perhaps -n |
| 19:10.20 | thurstylark | RoyK: -f implies -n |
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| 19:10.33 | Cyclonit | Hi, is there some simple way of converting systemd .service definitions to sysvinit? I need to run cgroup-tools inside of a lxc container and systemd doesn't work in there. |
| 19:10.43 | RoyK | thurstylark: ok |
| 19:10.48 | greycat | Simple? No. You would have to rewrite it completley. |
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| 19:11.53 | Cyclonit | Well, some form of cheatsheet maybe? This is the only piece missing for me to have unprivileged nested debian jessie containers on jessie >.< |
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| 19:12.52 | greycat | It would be easier to install something like runit or daremontools and then rewrite the systemd unit file as a daemontools run script, or the runit equivalent. At least they use the same "foreground process" paradigm. |
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| 19:14.28 | Cyclonit | I'm already somewhat annoyed having to fall back to using sysvinit and I'd prefer not using additional pieces of software... I'll take a look at it though, thanks |
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| 19:15.04 | RoyK | there's something called http://devuan.org/ |
| 19:15.23 | greycat | That's a bit more intrusive than just installing daemontools. |
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| 19:16.25 | Cyclonit | and doesn't solve my problem of trying to run cgroup-tools using sysvinit |
| 19:16.34 | Cyclonit | merely extends it to the host |
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| 19:17.19 | Cyclonit | and I'm fine using systemd, its just not compatible with lxc |
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| 19:30.17 | Cyclonit | sheesh, if only systemd were compatible with lxc. That would resolve lots of problems... |
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| 19:31.03 | zinx | or maybe if lxc were compatible with systemd |
| 19:31.14 | Cyclonit | well, that's the same |
| 19:31.24 | zinx | no it isn't ;) |
| 19:31.24 | Cyclonit | compatbility is a symmetric relationship |
| 19:31.56 | greycat | Not the way it's normally used. |
| 19:32.25 | greycat | "x is compatible with y" means x has taken steps, or got lucky. y didn't necessarily do anything. |
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| 19:32.48 | jelly | maybe you want LXD, it ends with "d" which sounds more compatible with systemd |
| 19:33.01 | Cyclonit | haha ;) if only that were true |
| 19:33.18 | zinx | might wanna try some LSD while you're at it, just to be extra certain |
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| 19:34.36 | Cyclonit | well, LSD might actually help a lot when trying to run LXD on my setup |
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| 19:36.10 | TomTomTosch | #áµáµáµâ±áµâ¿ áµáµáµË¢ â¿áµáµ áµâ¿áµáµÊ³Ë¢áµ áµÊ³ ʳáµá¶áµáµáµáµâ¿áµ áµÊ°áµ áµË¢áµ áµá¶ áµÊ³áµÊ°â±áµâ±áµáµáµ Ë¢áµáµË¢áµáµâ¿á¶áµË¢ |
| 19:36.26 | teraflops | xD |
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| 19:36.54 | tripout | hi, it seems that my realtek wifi card is causing some trouble with tethering connection.... connection gets killed regularly and it's really annoying. using manjaro for a test now, and there i have a stable tethering connection for a few hours now. is somebody able to help me with this issue. i have to use non-free drivers to get the card to work. |
| 19:37.01 | Cyclonit | that's all I need to switch to using Ubuntu instead :P |
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| 19:37.29 | teraflops | Cyclonit: yeah |
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| 19:39.02 | tripout | you can get a lot more information related to this issue, but i have to log in to debian first. |
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| 19:40.34 | tripout | is there a possiblity to change to another non free driver? |
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| 19:44.41 | jhutchins | tripout: First we need to know which realtek chipset you have. No, there's probably not a non-free driver. If you're connected at all, you probably don't need firmware. Realtek is not known for high-quality chipsets. |
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| 19:46.31 | tripout | jhutchins, i did a non-free net-install, because regular iso couldn't find wifi card- |
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| 19:46.55 | tripout | just a minute, i have to switch back to debian.. |
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| 19:51.25 | luxio | Can it please be stated in the topic that this channel is logged? |
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| 19:53.13 | jhutchins | luxio: Anybody can log an irc channel. |
| 19:53.30 | tripout | here's chipset information user@debian:~$ lspci | grep -i wireless |
| 19:53.33 | tripout | 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150 (rev 67) |
| 19:53.34 | markybob | hell i'm logging it right now |
| 19:53.52 | markybob | tripout: he wants lspci -nn |
| 19:54.03 | jhutchins | tripout: use -nn on lspci to get the actual chipset. That's not a realtek. |
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| 19:54.33 | unborn | thurstylark: okay can you tell me how to add the ssh command to start up of my system? |
| 19:55.20 | thurstylark | unborn: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 19:55.33 | jhutchins | unborn: Do you mean you want to enable the ssh daemon, or something else? |
| 19:55.45 | greycat | I suspect he means establishing a tunnel. |
| 19:56.09 | unborn | thurstylark: debian 8 all up to date :) |
| 19:56.11 | tripout | jhutchins, here you'll find complete lspci -nn output http://pastebin.com/m5v2x1xb |
| 19:56.24 | teraflops | luxio: this is a warning about me logging you in my .weechat log directory. |
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| 19:56.54 | unborn | greycat: yeah that thing we was talking about.. basically I do connect there like 7 times a day.. so its a bit pointless to disconnecting from my side |
| 19:56.57 | luxio | teraflops: I recall a freenode rule about public logging |
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| 19:57.13 | luxio | Not private logging though. |
| 19:57.14 | thurstylark | unborn: ok, take that ssh command, and make it the ExecStart= line of a systemd service file. |
| 19:57.19 | thurstylark | done |
| 19:57.20 | unborn | jhutchins: yeah ssh tunel to my other linux box in another country.. home server in my moms |
| 19:57.21 | thurstylark | :P |
| 19:57.36 | jhutchins | tripout: Ok, your wireless is intel, but you do have a realtek for the wired connection. Are you tethering another device to the laptop, or are you tethering the laptop to another device like a phone? |
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| 19:58.11 | unborn | crap is that easy as it is? meh thats like hangouts sending me aim when someone logs into server via ssh :) |
| 19:58.13 | jhutchins | ,pciid 8086:0885 |
| 19:58.14 | judd | [8086:0885] is 'Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0885 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 19:58.19 | tripout | i'm tethering laptop to phone for web connection |
| 19:58.20 | unborn | thurstylark: thank you |
| 19:58.28 | thurstylark | unborn: np |
| 19:58.30 | greycat | If systemd were just the ExecStart stuff, it would be awesome. |
| 19:58.47 | thurstylark | is there a debian wiki page for creating a systemd unit file? |
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| 19:59.00 | greycat | It's all this other crap that it does for no apparent reason that ... I just don't get. |
| 19:59.01 | thurstylark | if not, Imma just link the arch one :P |
| 19:59.20 | greycat | The debian wiki is nowhere near as actively maintained as the arch one. |
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| 19:59.23 | luxio | I suppose it's not a rule, but more of a guideline: https://freenode.net/news/blogging-about-logging |
| 19:59.26 | luxio | "If you're pubÂlishÂing logs on an onÂgoÂing baÂsis, your chanÂnel topÂic should reÂflect that fact. Be sure to proÂvide a way for users to make comÂments withÂout logÂging, and get perÂmisÂsion from the chanÂnel ownÂers beÂfore you start. If you're thinkÂing of "anonymizÂing" your logs (reÂmovÂing inÂforÂmaÂtion that idenÂtiÂfies the speÂcifÂic users), be aware that it's difÂfiÂcult to do it wellâreplies and genÂerÂal c |
| 19:59.26 | luxio | onÂtext ofÂten proÂvide idenÂtiÂfyÂing inÂforÂmaÂtion which is hard to filÂter." |
| 19:59.36 | greycat | what the |
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| 19:59.54 | teraflops | !pastefail |
| 19:59.55 | thurstylark | dafuq did you just do to my terminal |
| 20:00.26 | unborn | thurstylark: yeah man that worked :) |
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| 20:00.34 | simonlnu | is there a way to reload the alsa snd* modules like the old script did? |
| 20:00.36 | thurstylark | unborn: \o/ |
| 20:00.45 | simonlnu | it's a PITA to have to do this manually. |
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| 20:00.58 | simonlnu | screwed my term too |
| 20:01.36 | markybob | screwed it how? my irssi is fine |
| 20:01.40 | greycat | All I see are a bunch of words with hyphens in them as if they were being sounded out by syllables, and one UTF-8 glyph that is of course rendered as reverse video Z as all UTF-8 glyphs are on this system. |
| 20:01.52 | greycat | 15:59 luxio> "If you're publishing logs on an ongoing basis, your [...] |
| 20:02.02 | teraflops | hah |
| 20:02.03 | greycat | Just utterly baffling. |
| 20:02.04 | luxio | Huh? I don't see that |
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| 20:02.28 | luxio | Here's my client: http://i.imgur.com/uQ6AN1Z.png |
| 20:02.36 | teraflops | may a paste an image, with your permission? :P |
| 20:02.55 | jelly | teraflops: make sure to base64 encode it |
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| 20:03.01 | teraflops | :P |
| 20:03.03 | simonlnu | heh |
| 20:03.07 | unborn | :D |
| 20:03.17 | greycat | If I go to the freenode web site and paste the text directly from chrome into urxvt, I see the hyphens. |
| 20:03.46 | simonlnu | weechat is choking on it |
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| 20:03.59 | simonlnu | extra spaces at the end |
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| 20:04.10 | unborn | thurstylark: shall I add that -f option to that command? |
| 20:04.19 | teraflops | https://ptpb.pw/hPIz.png ^ |
| 20:04.30 | defanor | those are soft hyphens |
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| 20:04.51 | jhutchins | tripout: Not sure why you would be having that problem. Could be a weak connection on the phone's end. Intel wifi is usually pretty solid. |
| 20:04.55 | greycat | except they're not ASCII hyphens. If I paste them across the x2x barrier into my Latin-1 terminal I get  characters. |
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| 20:05.06 | jelly | this isn't #freenode-web-bugs, go complain in #freenode or https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/issues/ plz kthx |
| 20:05.10 | teraflops | my scroll got borked :P |
| 20:05.12 | teraflops | wtf |
| 20:05.21 | thurstylark | https://ptpb.pw/5acO |
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| 20:05.36 | defanor | it's not a bug on the web |
| 20:05.49 | jhutchins | tripout: One thing you could try is to automatically cycle the connection at a shorter interval than the dropouts. |
| 20:05.54 | simonlnu | more like #UTF-8/Latin-1-incompat :P |
| 20:06.07 | tako | randomly i'm getting authentication request like the "Please enter the password for account "unnamed" |
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| 20:06.20 | thurstylark | unborn: you'll probably need it for running your tunnel as a service. |
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| 20:07.06 | tako | how can i find this that want to authentication from me |
| 20:07.07 | unborn | thurstylark: aaaah finally some light in my skull :) |
| 20:07.20 | tako | unborn, hi bro :) |
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| 20:07.39 | tako | unborn, take it easy |
| 20:07.51 | teraflops | simonlnu: I � Unicode :P |
| 20:08.00 | tripout | jhutchins, here is another paste from dmesg http://pastebin.com/w7jA7HqG |
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| 20:08.23 | greycat | downloads https://freenode.net/news/blogging-about-logging using wget, and then less-es the file, and sees the crap-hyphens in the file in less, even though they are invisible in Google-Chrome. |
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| 20:08.44 | flux_ | hey |
| 20:08.48 | jhutchins | tripout: Please use paste.debian.org in future, pastebin.com has problems. |
| 20:09.01 | flux_ | should ntfs partition be auto-mounted in debian? I dont have access to them |
| 20:09.29 | tripout | jhutchins, thx for information. |
| 20:09.30 | greycat | It's actually http://paste.debian.net/ not .org |
| 20:09.57 | tripout | bookmarked greycat |
| 20:10.16 | jhutchins | tripout: It looks like it is looking for firmware, although the judd info should mention that. |
| 20:10.19 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 20:10.19 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 20:11.01 | jhutchins | tripout: The wiki's probably your best bet, I think there's a firmware-nonfree package that grabs most of it. |
| 20:11.40 | thurstylark | flux_: I mean if you want to, it's not gonna blow things up. Why do you want to do that, though? |
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| 20:12.26 | flux_ | err, i just want to be able to edit files from ntfs partition being on linux |
| 20:12.39 | greycat | Then mount the partition when you want to do that. |
| 20:13.02 | greycat | or, if you want it mounted all the time, put it in fstab, but with "nofail" so the system doesn't stop booting when the NTFS partition goes away |
| 20:13.16 | flux_ | what do you mean - goes away? |
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| 20:13.42 | greycat | If it's not mountable at boot time for any reason. |
| 20:13.51 | flux_ | ok, thx |
| 20:14.07 | flux_ | would i be able to see content of these files via gui? |
| 20:14.16 | tripout | ok, i'll try it on my own. anyway, thx for help jhutchins |
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| 20:14.39 | wewlad | read the article 'blogging about logging' and it's weird |
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| 20:15.05 | wewlad | rules that base on the word 'should' can be ignored |
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| 20:15.28 | wewlad | so I don't know why f-node even bothered to fight public logging bots |
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| 20:16.13 | teraflops | nah weird is a paste borking the terminal with escape sequences |
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| 20:19.01 | greycat | It's because the web page contains weird UTF-8-crap pseudo-hyphens in the middle of every multisyllable word. |
| 20:19.04 | greycat | I've never seen anything like it. |
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| 20:19.42 | wewlad | void for utf-32 |
| 20:19.49 | wewlad | no, utf-64 |
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| 20:20.44 | thurstylark | greycat: http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ :P |
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| 20:28.20 | accurateness | FREENODE STAFF ARE REALLY BAD AT THIS JOB. cherry_lin kbtr paulgrmn aZz7eCh mns karstensrage fca veil l3archos frexm coruja Fjorgynn EasyShekels alcx sharky iooner AbyssOne Guest50599 paradizelost r00tobo deepy grim4593 relgar grisher Gamenoob Windows98 sparty tristero jannic beisner morph- zhl zack6849 arcvile Epakai Junaos vOYtEC_ adamg mcfrisk module000 |
| 20:28.20 | accurateness | IRCOP 'uptime' MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE wredny finchd Tetrazene terxx mixomathoze ludocode Iridos paw lumidee nopf Dasiel Nach0z amgarching Elysia ruind Zharf stoned sptz Python132O papey Bercik tugrik NeoBlaster CurryWurst Jonuz mateusz mniip le_pig AusteritySucks Ryushin enoch85 case39 Strife89 chalcedony deuche well_laid_lawn ix007 zw01 skapunker Pucilowski |
| 20:28.20 | accurateness | FREENODE STAFF HAVE NO STAKE IN THE FOSS COMMUNITY THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL LIKE FASCISTS. oberstein zhl nagetier dTal umbSublime ggherdov magenbrot Sarodj ToneKnee mattikus superusr vivid LoRez calvin_ `ryban lazouz Gurty freanux Akufen JohnDoh chimeracoder xet7 johnny0 nurupo BeamWatcher conan1415 nano43 detha Cyclonit Envil PaulePanter magyar ChunkzZ wych amcorreia Dreamix basedsiren p0ly3d3r Nnavd Poppa |
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| 20:28.37 | gerlovo | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. donofrio Fjorgynn pythonsnake jbitdrop neoweb programmerq jamie- [E]sc ggherdov beardface ArchDuke Granis noid- ]3n19m4[ fhffhqvb jaggz spacebison k4tfish michaelni pampeho Rollniak MrAlexandr0 navlelo_ monpocchi OneMatthias phate408 superusr ceptor kdog hays_ Arrowmaster TheVoid freakcom Mac_Vee1 AusteritySucks joaumg nevyn electro33 slax0r Nnavd |
| 20:28.37 | gerlovo | IRCOP 'uptime' MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE mz| fred`` Trellmor xtom mdel nickdastain przemoc Dagger kInOzAwA justyns Piggy Pscion soahccc berndj rOss^64 shifty glebihan_ Guest7347 Louis stiivo1 sparetire Cybertinus introom detha capri meLon Kurocon_ afk11 Saichovsky VoidFox homegrown gardar Akufen fubbi duracrisis Igel BarthezZ Hobbyboy Snakes T0rch |
| 20:28.37 | gerlovo | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. Envil tomaluca95 Ironhand Curlybear Xyle cnu- Epakai Caelum binwiederhier_ fireba11 codebam Bish pppp peterS upilss fenns Neo int0x27h zmachine mlq MeanEYE raxo mag009 stooj namespace l0xas_ tabakhase penguinguru LiENUS anona p0ly3d3r dgncn Pinsel SteffanW Maikel sdollins Amun_Ra Nik05 DonVitoCorleone Cybertinus |
| 20:28.37 | gerlovo | FREENODE STAFF TRY TO CONTROL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT, AND EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF YOUR PROJECT LEST YOU GTFO. enkrypt davi blahRus cnu- evanvarvell rrehbein relaxed Poroshenko marsjaninzmarsa runejuhl Starduster jelly guardian Simson-san Cyclohexane scubacuda lbatalha Skyrider esainane Laogeodritt downtime APexil n-st RickXy syshape iter vincent_c lowin Tom01 dpkg beatdown vagarwal we6jbo2 runtime_error nymony sveva65_ fourletterword ELLIOTTC |
| 20:28.37 | gerlovo | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. DrDaemonEye mesamoo LtL K4k twisted` Taco LucaTM RaiNerTsuFal civillian relgar jmcnaught heap_ jesopo SwK mz| sukaeto phy1729 Hobbyboy peterrooney afk11 abramart komugi ribasushi dgncn Fjorgynn flavioc blu2 Telvana High_Priest blueness GegenRung [_Miles_] adrian phate408 dave0x6d altyr Lugh r0r0 nymony WakiMiko |
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| 20:28.40 | harlequin | FREENODE STAFF TRY TO CONTROL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT, AND EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF YOUR PROJECT LEST YOU GTFO. vonsyd0w moss Orbitrix Discovery ghenry Mathisen OneMatthias TonyL atomi squarecircle ccl RyanKnack AusteritySucks akitada edg hid3 TheQuestionmark dym Hypnosekroete dijenerate churnd GNU\colossus Arroyo1010 test1 wych jas4711 hinderaker s7r HauM1 comgot FoolishOwl tomaluca95 rsully dfcnvt K1rk mukmuk Bryanstein finchd sweatsuit percY- |
| 20:28.40 | harlequin | FREENODE STAFF HAVE NO STAKE IN THE FOSS COMMUNITY THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL LIKE FASCISTS. andatche ovidnis magnulu rlange Mmike chachasmooth mt sidv winterss brouette cadeskywalker k-man Scuttle_ bool_ mag009 dahl zwox Lildirt Mortumm zalatovo texnofobix Neo zack6849 SabakuRou wcfields nandersson t00m0 RickXy sativouf tomaw wobeling3rs JackPH mixomathoze nagetier trysten ryan-c Nightmare egos xTEMPLARx nurupo |
| 20:28.40 | harlequin | FREENODE STAFF ARE REALLY BAD AT THIS JOB. Gurty mavhq deuche thomas XeonSquared kanzure Noah0504 p_quarles screedo trysten loxley Zyferus Nnavd ribasushi xingu Javabean damentz GNUino thallera1 komugi Iridos snow_bckspc dgncn azizLIGHT nagarkot Elion Rockj aZz7eCh DHowett coolxeon Wug Messenger_bird Expanse xar- SlaGTaTs tlund trewas catbeard davi Posterdati |
| 20:28.40 | harlequin | IRCOP 'uptime' MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE sparty M-shine blazed_ bolt ruind vaidy FluidDruid STMelon SenpaiSilver DrDaemonEye Sammy8806 Justinus Exagone313 smidlers tonyoy Klumben TheVoid capri ghenry unforgiven512 copec berndj ]3n19m4[ blommer michaelni crash_ icedp Andreas33 SpacePenguin lf94 dijenerate CompWizrd Jidoor dmitris watersoul rozie thurstylark SabakuRou Dasiel pppp |
| 20:28.40 | harlequin | FREENODE STAFF ARE REALLY BAD AT THIS JOB. kbtr sptz ectospasm SolSoCoG t00m0 _MysT ProfessorKaos64 Seifer bugzbunny oberstein Gcool orangey bshacklett kingsley NyanCat zwox maotm thai_ wolfmitchell Exagone313 jmcnaught tomaluca95 towa ohithere neomorphix _tremo ToBeFree freanux owa jbitdrop programmerq BotaniCar__ ]3n19m4[ dethos cluelessperson volter vaelen kriskropd TheOmega Akufen |
| 20:28.40 | harlequin | IRCOP 'uptime' MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE Gm4n Noah0504 ancky frexm lohenpaa ne0h|nihilist LordDeath fossrox technohehl vegardx bugzbunny nux papey tomreyn cwillu_at_work ggherdov penutgelo jeddi Taco hexnewbie ineiros Cloudwalker42 abrotman catbeard _0bitcount slicepaperwords ToeSnacks break19 mnsc_se beisner mibo varesa ephemer0l TonyL zwiep` Strife89 cafuego jackburton blommer Scott |
| 20:28.40 | harlequin | IRCOP 'uptime' MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE KomputerKid Guest22584 supersoju dex|wrk mgodzilla edaught__ nosi lbatalha Taco melvin_ polyzen mynis masetrax peer69 cliluw nagarkot catsup warraymos jhutchins LeandroLuiz towo` evanvarvell noid- sepi Defaultti cluelessperson sativouf kmh jass93 rlange catbehemoth ggherdov freakcom TriJetScud Strife89 Sarodj DrDoofenshmirtz bkraptor dave0x6d b |
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| 20:28.46 | SuperNull | :| really. |
| 20:28.50 | umbSublime | not this again |
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| 20:28.53 | morbillary | FREENODE STAFF HAVE NO STAKE IN THE FOSS COMMUNITY THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL LIKE FASCISTS. reikokuko phantomcircuit hassoon locrian9 dm7freek ovidnis gdot2 Guest65522 RickyB98 antlarr SpacePenguin tadej roger_rabbit tallbarr Celelibi venkat_330 hid3 diytto_znc mz| guardian phantomik Quick_Wango KNERD zerick magyar hycer _aeris_ jhill babilen tomaw DBA_1 glebihan flipp- relgar darius93 zinx corpsegrinder Sendoushi noteness DHowett |
| 20:28.53 | morbillary | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. XeonSquared serban Jojan_ warraymos Ishaq webbyz yan__ CompWizrd benjr tallbarr ghoti noid- nitefall Jarus nighty-_ gacekjk lmcloughlin Ryushin markn_ Brutix_ Geom Cloudlet__ mactimes_ misiek200m prussian zerotri gusnan yort Saichovsky Se-bash Pulec Guest7347 colo-work buu ejcx jakew02 rkj LordDeath ZekeS oberstein |
| 20:28.53 | morbillary | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. foul_owl Gurty InFerNo_ Ceber nkuttler Rubin MrGeneral heinrich5991 mcfrisk afx237_ madmattco SpeedBus sativouf Pseudo pythonsnake gtrotcko r3m itu wredny CoreyFeldman_ x032cx beastie_ roylaprattep bkraptor plasticle guardian glebihan_ zone_twelve UniOn Kazzy Brutix_ littlebear roshanavand Guest4792 nopf pelegreno kriskropd austin987 deepy digidog |
| 20:28.53 | morbillary | FREENODE STAFF TRY TO CONTROL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT, AND EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF YOUR PROJECT LEST YOU GTFO. ephemer0l KNERD Wyzard jmcnaught HerculeP l0xas_ claritty_ mxtm wooden_ Ben64 VeggieMeat syshape Olipro Liam` Anwarias_ boss Guest50599 xSmurf Hydroxide Getafix74 internat Celelibi neoromantique papey Daniel0 n-st ibex neglesaks fca Ceber MonsterKiller lazouz Guest22584 trnkz misiek200m Hijiri Mac_Vee1 freakyy _TB_ mysteerimasa |
| 20:28.53 | morbillary | FOSS PROJECTS _REALLY_ NEED TO FIND A BETTER NETWORK TO FAIRLY SUPPORT THEIR USERS. xargs Carno Keikran devster31 r0ck_ grim4593 thuk donoban Python132O DrDoofenshmirtz markybob Nightmare aconite33 AntiSpamMeta deepy n-st SabakuRou sz0 paulgrmn erry hypermist phantomcircuit gusnan Arcanos Mazhive Butt3rfly x032cx fnkr moonlight xnrand Sigyn EmleyMoor cats Junaos azizLIGHT [E]sc dimon yusukesuzuki tapout Tyrant |
| 20:28.54 | subangled | IRCOP 'uptime' MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ABUSE OR WE CAN HAVE THESE MESSAGES, YOUR CHOICE FREEEEEENODE HEHEHE xar- xTEMPLARx grumpycatt TheVoid max-m iKarith OzoNe beastie_ coolmadmax Snakes suexec Ze` pseubodot dakka2 wewlad Fusselkater tty0_ wafflejock Tsutsukakushi xKoren azmodeus phate408 nicdev fearnothing Redfoxmoon Simson-san flyinprogrammer alcx BbT0n aZz7eCh Dr4k3 NightKhaos rysiek|pl gdot2 Fusl Malmis ChrisH LordDe |
| 20:28.54 | subangled | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. Butt3rfly danmackay jackburton stooj gosling Walex obli-AWAY michiel stakewinner00 nighty-_ fold4 unwanted Louis heap_ thomas sidv nopf jager sdfr nse blind sonOfRa sc0 pharpend judd paulgrmn littlebear sinetek johnny0 Kyoshiro Madgod copec chalcedony Rosco2 jonbryan terxx Ex-Opesa ponyofdeath midacts webbyz |
| 20:28.54 | subangled | FOSS PROJECTS _REALLY_ NEED TO FIND A BETTER NETWORK TO FAIRLY SUPPORT THEIR USERS. crazyonerob gigetoo Log1x cherry_lin Arroyo1010 [pabu] sativouf mngrif Jarus danmackay rysiek|pl barubaru DLmass Ex-Opesa MrAlexandr0 defanor EmleyMoor BackEndCoder elmcrest Toris Liam` pipeep fourletterword veil introom sparty esainane Curlybear mysteerimasa jgornick thebrush zone_twelve jbitdrop lifeofguenter_ unborn internat Nightmare Redhair |
| 20:28.55 | subangled | FREENODE STAFF HAVE NO STAKE IN THE FOSS COMMUNITY THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL LIKE FASCISTS. javak bezaban Zekah Quantumcross Scotteh Kjartan unwanted dimon ohithere raSter^ LjL yusukesuzuki Haudegen internat r00twayne Laughing1uckk_ dreamon LucaTM Dreamix lift BenderRodriguez drmagoo Sciuro RickyB98 jas4711 terxx sonOfRa RichiH jonbryan eris2323 Cerise television qman__ taylorbyte mRokita osxi bn` don_armstrong winterss iNs |
| 20:28.55 | subangled | FREENODE STAFF TRY TO CONTROL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT, AND EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF YOUR PROJECT LEST YOU GTFO. Stanto blu2 cluelessperson BackEndCoder aypea[1] rednul_ DANtheBEASTman n0arch oberstein BenderRodriguez Cloudlet__ boss fenns Ool itu jmcnaught andreluiz Python132O cyris212 LtL AusteritySucks MrFrood jonbryan babilen Sthebig jaggz jackburton noodle KakuRoze fourletterword capri jonathaN mimi89999 failsure ne0h| |
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| 20:28.56 | SuperNull | why target #debian ? |
| 20:28.57 | SuperNull | lol |
| 20:29.07 | mavhq | 1687 users |
| 20:29.07 | paradizelost | lol. someone must have gotten a /kick |
| 20:29.08 | dax | they're targetting a bunch of big channels |
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| 20:29.09 | madmattco | oh look. a gay |
| 20:29.09 | cmdrun | FREENODE STAFF TRY TO CONTROL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT, AND EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF YOUR PROJECT LEST YOU GTFO. Ad1_RnR Obi-Wan ChiLLabiS thuk roger_rabbit tlab BeamWatcher her0 hays_ alfred_ xcpop_ moop bugzbunny M-shine LambdaCalculus37 alexlist chizbang FluidDruid Ceber varesa penutgelo blu2 afk11 stooj Guest5056 Kamilion Whiskey tharkun SM0TVI Wug __z0k__ Billias internat Che-Anarch neglesaks nagarkot bhuvi jannic bool_ dtcrshr |
| 20:29.09 | cmdrun | FREENODE STAFF ARE REALLY BAD AT THIS JOB. brong__ integral Noskcaj thiagoss pasturesofplenty SpeedBus liamsmith mcfrisk aZz7eCh blocky warsoul vigilvindex_ NotJimCarrey sz0 SuperNull lf94 RickyB98 mavhq SM0TVI awwal Nightmare Starduster dym fernie eki int0x27h masonhau- P6hjakonn shroud_ Tundra-Mobile ferseiti Nitori aliljet VampiricPadraig_ loxley yokel jelly frostschutz MrFrood relaxed |
| 20:29.09 | cmdrun | FREENODE STAFF ARE REALLY BAD AT THIS JOB. diytto_znc alcx cyphase happy-dude bfit mcmillhj giraffe kodapa nicdev miklcct claritty_ xtom mgodzilla LoRez ancky heurist` Akufen nitefall jubo2 r0ck_ TiCPU integral dreamon NyanCat nurupo jackburton Mokuba_K cybrNaut TechChristoph__ Nightmare moetunes enoch85 lf94 joze Posterdati RyanKnack frankie Cybertinus kirkland wobeling3rs |
| 20:29.09 | cmdrun | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. well_laid_lawn voidsta whatevsz_ XDS2010 Jerm1 at0m zymurgy alxjsn pushpop joncrunchbang antlarr Uninstall LiENUS stakewinner00 epsilon Python132O _0x5eb_ jass93 Pinsel riddle milobit zwamkat yves_del_harlow p8m_ Nothing4You Alam_Squeeze angor K4k ozzloy Puree jeezy Subfusc Amnez777 sidv markus_ Levure egos AciD` betaboon PryMar56 |
| 20:29.09 | cmdrun | SPAM WILL STOP WHEN FREENODE STAFF LEARNS HOW TO CODE. Cerise penutgelo heap_ CodingWithClass jgornick rosseaux sCreami RA3OR dbyzero relaxed heurist` Habitual Siema noid- x42 MrAlexandr0 ExoUNX hualet_deepin nezZario mimi89999_phone Stummi VoidFox duoi AbyssOne eshlox SerajewelKS GTAXL ToneKnee blind Pymous SenpaiSilver vinzv Hydroxide phantomik tydel_ ebarch mcmillhj chen crash_ Belkaar |
| 20:29.11 | EasyShekels | lmao |
| 20:29.13 | greycat | Please don't comment on spam in here. Use #debian-offtopic for that. |
| 20:29.14 | cmhobbs | one of the larger channels probably |
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| 20:29.25 | Tsutsukakushi | oh boy |
| 20:29.31 | Habitual | wow. |
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| 20:29.34 | umbSublime | greycat, lol |
| 20:29.36 | Hobbyboy | I'm in loads of massive channels, this is the only one affected |
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| 20:29.42 | EasyShekels | THIS is a large channel? |
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| 20:29.47 | n-st | lots of different ips too. someone's really holding a grudge⦠|
| 20:29.51 | varesa | Hobbyboy, +1 |
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| 20:30.02 | Tsutsukakushi | n-st: yeah |
| 20:30.10 | cluelessperson | Why the spam |
| 20:30.10 | Tsutsukakushi | i wonder what uptime did this time |
| 20:30.13 | neglesaks | Discuss in #debian-offtopic please. |
| 20:30.14 | cluelessperson | what are they talking about |
| 20:30.18 | greycat | Please don't comment on spam in here. Use #debian-offtopic for that. |
| 20:30.35 | ryan-c | So, how do people feel about systemd? |
| 20:30.39 | Tsutsukakushi | uptime once wronged me in some way but i've already forgotten how |
| 20:30.40 | Tsutsukakushi | :o |
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| 20:30.50 | Habitual | I'd rather take spam on irc? |
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| 20:32.19 | ryan-c | On topic question: Is there anything I can do about debian bugs that the package maintainer doesn't care about? |
| 20:32.37 | greycat | If it's bad enough, you fork the package and maintain it yourself. |
| 20:32.48 | greycat | That's what I did for safecat. |
| 20:32.48 | neglesaks | Yes. Fork it or find someone willing to. |
| 20:32.51 | KomputerKid | damn |
| 20:32.51 | neglesaks | Oh snap. |
| 20:33.02 | tortib | is there a gui interface for KVM? |
| 20:33.05 | TomTomTosch | ryan-c: you could provide a patch and hope the maintainer takes a look. |
| 20:33.24 | simonlnu | then you can say "fork you" :P |
| 20:33.26 | ryan-c | TomTomTosch: Two patches have been provided. |
| 20:33.31 | ryan-c | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=452049 |
| 20:33.33 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/452049 in vlan (open): «can not use interface name "eth0.0" for vlan»; severity: normal; opened: 2007-11-20; last modified: 2016-04-20. |
| 20:33.34 | thurstylark | tortib: there are several. |
| 20:34.00 | ryan-c | I somehow don't think forking that package will go very far. |
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| 20:35.01 | TiCPU | at least you had a response! |
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| 20:35.35 | ryan-c | I have not gotten a response, the original person who filed it did. |
| 20:36.07 | tortib | thurstylark okay and what are the names of them? |
| 20:36.13 | teraflops | heh |
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| 20:36.42 | jelly | tortib: virt-manager is one |
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| 20:36.59 | tortib | I can install windows on the kvm right? |
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| 20:37.07 | molot | FREENODE STAFF WANT TO CONTROL ALL ASPECTS AND MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT AS THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE. K4k soahccc folivora BbT0n lupinedk clorophormo crazyonerob nagarkot nosi monpocchi NiLon HappyLoaf noid- blingrang darius93 degan6 DrDoofenshmirtz consolejazz level7 Soul_Eater T0rch altyr p_quarles SerajewelKS High_Priest Noah0504 catbeard judd Cpuroast nicorikken lbatalha edmen TiCPU mateusz M4lv0 js9600 Zambezi liamsmith ToeSnacks valdyn |
| 20:37.07 | molot | FREENODE STAFF WANT TO CONTROL ALL ASPECTS AND MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT AS THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE. WakiMiko enkrypt joze Tristan-Speccy jercos watersoul Ceber cwillu_at_work her0 SirLagz magyar clorophormo subzero79 ghormoon ZekeS r00tobo voidsta Ishaq suexec roguelazer MyNameIsJared RoyK lifeofguenter_ chrisc jamie- neglesaks Elysia Nitori littlebear blueness_ reikokuko Rust3dCor3 P6hjakonn ChuMar1 pron catbeard cyboman33 kvm2k ^v rOss^64 |
| 20:37.07 | molot | FOSS PROJECTS _REALLY_ NEED TO FIND A BETTER NETWORK TO FAIRLY SUPPORT THEIR USERS. test1 cydrobolt sidv zerick pythonsnake THX1138 blind coolmadmax Stanto [E]sc crazyonerob nopf bolt Gm4n romano2k RickXy IbexPeak Caelum rrehbein mavhc nezZario pitelpan Zambezi rpcope little_tommy breitenj mossman Granis DandyPandy muggahtee shroud_ Aquarina deathleff Curlybear av0idz pelegreno jbitdrop rxo TheOmega ephemer0l |
| 20:37.07 | molot | FREENODE STAFF WANT TO CONTROL ALL ASPECTS AND MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PROJECT AS THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE. wybczu xnrand bolt Mac_Vee1 vaidy therock247uk Xyle jback lift Gaiseric atomi miroesq icedp taylorbyte Carno SpeedBus intosh Zekah Brutix_ hundfred Andocromn Kurocon_ Aquarina ksx4system screedo shtirlic jass93 joelpet_ n0arch hexagoxel Iiiak brong__ d1b dave0x6d masterm Ad1_RnR oblivian finchd graytron danieli |
| 20:37.07 | molot | FAQ: Why this channel? I AM NUKING THIS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT UNINHABITABLE BY FOSS PROJECTS. THIS PROJECT IS ONLY GUILTY OF CONTINUING TO USE FREENODE AND NOTHING MORE. Myrtti fearnothing Krakakanok2 LiENUS xKoren SpaceKoo- chrisc LeandroLuiz akitada noodle kvm2k Tetrazene snow_bckspc plasticle ALicinio sjk sdfr miroesq lf94 Calcium KeithGS neomorphix BotaniCar__ lankanmon Awesomecase Yugidude1 THX1138 fourletterword trobotham ircnode0_ broli |
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| 20:37.13 | pseudonymity | FAQ: Why this channel? I AM NUKING THIS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT UNINHABITABLE BY FOSS PROJECTS. THIS PROJECT IS ONLY GUILTY OF CONTINUING TO USE FREENODE AND NOTHING MORE. ChanServ slax0r FluidDruid pipeep dualbus Anwarias_ DustyDingo dreamon Olipro ccl Caelum BeamWatcher _aeris_ TheFlyingCorpse jmcnaught xnrand Gcool calebwill blingrang tallbarr vegenaise NyanCat pfote MrFrood mcfrisk nurupo darxun lord_zoo case39 jslave1 Messenger_bird Hijiri high |
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| 20:37.20 | donoban | o_O |
| 20:37.24 | thurstylark | tortib: the best answer will come from googling it yourself. |
| 20:37.31 | Maikel | sjeez |
| 20:37.39 | Maikel | that highlighting is fckng annoying |
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| 20:37.57 | jelly | Maikel: so is commenting on it here, so please don't |
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| 20:38.07 | Maikel | ack. |
| 20:38.10 | _KaszpiR_ | haha |
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| 20:38.25 | nezZario | :( |
| 20:38.30 | thurstylark | tortib: yes, you can install windows in a kvm. I have win7 and win10 working very well in vms. |
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| 20:38.42 | tortib | thurstylark how does the window management work? |
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| 20:38.51 | tortib | can I use a window from a KVM session on my normal desktop? |
| 20:38.56 | teraflops | tortib: gnome has a gnome-boxes thing too |
| 20:39.05 | teraflops | tortib: yes |
| 20:39.10 | tortib | wow nice |
| 20:39.13 | tortib | why haven't i been using linux! |
| 20:39.21 | thurstylark | teraflops: which one supports that? |
| 20:39.54 | frostschutz | virtualbox ;) |
| 20:40.02 | teraflops | thurstylark: sorry |
| 20:40.12 | teraflops | thurstylark: what do you mean? |
| 20:40.33 | awwal | Simple curiosity. what is mode +r ? |
| 20:40.34 | thurstylark | teraflops: which kvm gui supports window management like that? |
| 20:41.09 | teraflops | thurstylark: perhaps I missed that due a spam thing |
| 20:41.20 | greycat | https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cSTGQmrfOHAJ:https://freenode.net/kb/answer/channelmodes+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us |
| 20:41.31 | thurstylark | teraflops: yeah, it was kvm specific afaik. |
| 20:41.36 | teraflops | thurstylark: " can I use a window from a KVM session on my normal desktop?" |
| 20:41.43 | Hobbyboy | awwal: Fairly sure it means registered only |
| 20:42.06 | awwal | Hobbyboy, ok, thanks |
| 20:42.30 | teraflops | thurstylark: spice-client(gtk) |
| 20:42.41 | teraflops | if I get what you asked me |
| 20:42.47 | greycat | I don't even want to KNOW why the google result for freenode channel modes 404ed and had to be retrieved from google cache. After that hy-phen-a-ted bull-shit I really, really don't even want to know. |
| 20:43.13 | thurstylark | teraflops: I assume he means not running Notepad inside a window within a window, but to run notepad as if the window was part of your hosts desktop |
| 20:43.32 | teraflops | thurstylark: ah, god no that's not what I meant |
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| 20:44.05 | epsilon | spicy is nice, comes with audio-support |
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| 20:44.26 | markybob | greycat: google cache linke you gave me pastes into terminal find :P |
| 20:44.34 | markybob | fine* |
| 20:44.38 | thurstylark | tortib: is that indeed what you meant? |
| 20:44.38 | teraflops | thurstylark: hmm I recall doing something like that with a rdesktop wrapper like 8 years ago :P |
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| 20:45.28 | sireorion | hey guys. I need some serius help.. I got an rpi and have installed an wifi dongle. is it possible to share the internet i get from the wifi to ethernet cable? |
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| 20:45.40 | Scotteh | depends on the dongle |
| 20:45.47 | tortib__ | thurstylark, I need a gui for KVM is all |
| 20:45.51 | sireorion | zyxel g202 |
| 20:45.53 | teraflops | tortib: that said I notice better graphics performance doing rdesktop to KVM virtualized windows workstations |
| 20:46.04 | tortib__ | thurstylark, what is the gnome one? |
| 20:46.45 | teraflops | sireorion: yes, use hostapd |
| 20:46.58 | epsilon | sireorion: yes, as bridge, or router using NAT |
| 20:47.15 | thurstylark | tortib__: boxes, but I would suggest virt-manager because it has a more complete access to libvirt's options |
| 20:47.31 | tortib__ | okay ty |
| 20:47.33 | teraflops | hostapd for doing AP, for haring the internet you just need routing and iptables |
| 20:47.34 | sireorion | teraflops: sudo apt-get install hostapd? |
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| 20:48.03 | epsilon | you dont need hostapd if your rpi is not playing an AP, so just client in WiFi |
| 20:48.17 | teraflops | sireorion: sharing the wifi to the ethernet so the wired ones get internet you just need doing routing and iptables |
| 20:48.39 | sireorion | teraflops: is it easy? |
| 20:48.43 | teraflops | as hell |
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| 20:49.11 | sireorion | okey ill try it... how long are u online? |
| 20:49.19 | epsilon | sireorion: bridging (Layer2) is way more easier, cause no routing or iptables (Layer3) |
| 20:49.36 | thurstylark | sireorion: there's people here pretty much all the time. someone should be able to help you |
| 20:49.51 | sireorion | thurstylark: okey =) |
| 20:49.54 | teraflops | sireorion: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_sharing |
| 20:50.11 | thurstylark | arch wiki saves the day again :P |
| 20:50.29 | teraflops | epsilon: youre assuming the wireless device supports bridge mode ... |
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| 20:50.46 | sireorion | teraflops: i will read it =) |
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| 20:52.46 | doebi | gawd. and daily greets the spammer bot. <.< |
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| 20:53.16 | tortib__ | thurstylark, |
| 20:53.24 | tortib__ | any idea why I'm getting this? libvirtError: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied |
| 20:53.24 | tortib__ | failed to initialize KVM: Permission denied |
| 20:53.51 | tortib__ | do I have to run it as root? |
| 20:54.04 | tortib__ | ah yeah you do |
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| 20:54.13 | teraflops | hmm |
| 20:54.43 | jmcnaught | tortib__: you can add your user to the libvirt group |
| 20:54.51 | tortib__ | ok |
| 20:55.23 | thurstylark | tortib__: yeah, the libvirt service has to be run by root. usually done by a systemd service |
| 20:55.25 | thurstylark | aw |
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| 20:56.25 | tortib_ | it still says permission denied even when I give it my root password and added myself to the group |
| 20:57.13 | thurstylark | tortib_: what is the exact command you're trying to run? |
| 20:57.34 | tortib_ | thurstylark, I'm using the virt-manager |
| 20:57.39 | tortib_ | and trying to start the KVM |
| 20:57.43 | tortib_ | the instance of the vm |
| 20:57.48 | thurstylark | tortib_: you have to start the libvirtd service first. |
| 20:57.56 | tortib_ | ok |
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| 20:58.36 | tortib_ | thurstylark, what is the service name? |
| 20:58.43 | tortib_ | why the heck hasn't the service been started when I installed |
| 20:58.46 | tortib_ | this is so annoying |
| 20:58.46 | thurstylark | tortib_: ....libvirtd |
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| 20:59.31 | tortib_ | service was already running thurstylark |
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| 21:00.03 | thurstylark | tortib_: so 'systemctl status libvirtd' shows that it's running? |
| 21:00.28 | jmcnaught | tortib_: did you logout and log back in after adding yourself to the group? Did you confirm you CPU supports virtualization? Is it disabled in your firmware/BIOS? |
| 21:00.32 | tortib_ | yes |
| 21:00.42 | tortib_ | jmcnaught, it's a mac :( |
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| 21:00.46 | tortib_ | Mac Pro 3,1 |
| 21:01.01 | thurstylark | probably still supports virtualization... |
| 21:01.07 | tortib_ | well yeah it's a permission error |
| 21:01.11 | tortib_ | not something else |
| 21:01.46 | thurstylark | tortib_: is there any optput for this? "egrep --color=auto 'vmx|svm|0xc0f' /proc/cpuinfo" |
| 21:02.23 | tortib_ | yeah it has vmx |
| 21:02.27 | tortib_ | but not svm |
| 21:02.56 | thurstylark | tortib_: are all of these listed as "y" or "m"? "zgrep CONFIG_KVM /proc/config.gz" |
| 21:04.22 | jmcnaught | tortib_: does "systemctl status libvirtd" show any errors? ("journalctl -b -u libvirtd" for more) |
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| 21:05.38 | tortib_ | May 05 13:48:33 Zetol libvirtd[9552]: internal error: QEMU / QMP failed: Could not access KVM kernel module: Permis |
| 21:05.39 | tortib_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:07.17 | highbass | hey guys .. i did a fresh instal and in my sources.list its pointing to dvd... whats the best way to get sources-list pointing to proper resources? |
| 21:07.21 | highbass | also where could i find a list for them? |
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| 21:07.55 | TomTomTo1 | !tell highbass about jessie sources.list |
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| 21:08.37 | jmcnaught | tortib_: i've seen that before where the virtualization feature is disabled in the BIOS, not sure how to change that on a Mac |
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| 21:09.35 | tortib_ | jmcnaught, got it to work :) |
| 21:09.43 | thurstylark | tortib_: what was it? |
| 21:09.45 | TomTomTosch | highbass: you can pick one near you: https://www.debian.org/mirror/list-full or use httpredir like described by the bot. this one will pick one for you that fits. |
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| 21:10.28 | greycat | When httpredir fails, just pick a country code redirectory (http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian ...) and it'll usually work better. |
| 21:10.46 | highbass | alright thanks guys |
| 21:10.59 | thurstylark | greycat: s/when/when, not if,/ |
| 21:11.06 | tortib_ | thurstylark, permissions on /dev/kvm |
| 21:11.06 | greycat | Yeah, I didn't say if ;-) |
| 21:11.24 | tortib_ | thurstylark, had to add the libvirt-qemu group to the device |
| 21:11.28 | tortib_ | so a simple chown |
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| 21:11.42 | TomTomTosch | always worked for me so i guess i'm that lucky :3 |
| 21:11.55 | thurstylark | tortib_: ahh. Man, why isn't that done on install? |
| 21:12.40 | tortib_ | thurstylark, good question lol |
| 21:13.04 | thurstylark | I mean, that's the whole point of the libvirt-qemu group. |
| 21:13.06 | tortib_ | thurstylark, I guess it doesn't set it to the qemu group and user because it's not installing from qemu? I thought i saw it install that package tho |
| 21:13.16 | tortib_ | thurstylark, dunno |
| 21:13.33 | tortib_ | thurstylark, is it supposed to be this slow? I'm installing windows 7 from a disc and it's taking ages |
| 21:14.03 | thurstylark | tortib_: depends on what resources you gave it :P |
| 21:14.13 | tortib_ | 4GB of RAM and 8 CPU cores |
| 21:14.43 | thurstylark | tortib_: coming from optical media? it's probably the cd that's slow... |
| 21:14.53 | thurstylark | s/cd/dvd/ |
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| 21:15.17 | greycat | We can't help you with Windows installations. |
| 21:15.44 | thurstylark | tortib_: yeah, at that point, it's not the os causing the problem :P |
| 21:15.46 | tortib_ | It's debian... |
| 21:15.48 | tortib_ | not windows |
| 21:16.04 | greycat | 17:13 tortib_> thurstylark, is it supposed to be this slow? I'm installing windows 7 from a disc and it's taking ages |
| 21:16.08 | jelly | what about kfreebsd installations? I've noticed kvm via virt-manager in jessie was horribly slow as well. But don't expect a whole lot of sensibility from debian's defaults. |
| 21:17.02 | tortib_ | ah |
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| 21:17.05 | tortib_ | CPU was only at 1 |
| 21:17.06 | tortib_ | derp |
| 21:17.10 | thurstylark | Yeah, no kidding. the vms on my arch host work very well on 2 cores and 2 GB ram :P |
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| 21:17.20 | thurstylark | tortib_: that'll do it. |
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| 21:17.47 | drkshad0w | Is there any way that I can change the values supplied by the preseed file in the early_command? |
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| 21:19.18 | tortib_ | oh yes |
| 21:19.21 | tortib_ | lightning fast now lol |
| 21:19.38 | tortib_ | nvm spoke too soon I guess ... |
| 21:20.55 | thurstylark | yeah, windows is a crapshoot |
| 21:21.06 | thurstylark | scrubs hands of the process |
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| 21:26.06 | teraflops | thurstylark: hmm I just had to usermod -G libvirt,libvirt-qemu $USER not sure the latter group is necessary. |
| 21:26.42 | teraflops | thurstylark: sorry i meant tortib_ :P |
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| 21:27.15 | teraflops | :S /me has a problem with the tab key |
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| 21:27.52 | tortib_ | well I just hope the windows performance is good, the KVM is taking an awfully long time to load the setup |
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| 21:29.10 | teraflops | tortib_: it flies here with 2 cores and 2GB of ram (ssh though). |
| 21:29.19 | teraflops | ssd* |
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| 21:30.13 | thurstylark | teraflops: aw, man I thought you were saying that you tunnel all your connections over ssh like my setup :P |
| 21:30.29 | teraflops | nope :P |
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| 21:31.07 | thurstylark | I do that because my vms are on a remote host, and I use virt-manager for a front end, and it connects to the host over ssh :P |
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| 21:32.29 | tortib_ | teraflops, it's just taking a while to copy the files from the CD over to the VM |
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| 21:32.43 | teraflops | thurstylark: ah sure, tried the HPN-SSH patches? |
| 21:33.28 | thurstylark | teraflops: not that I know of... They're both arch. |
| 21:34.09 | teraflops | thurstylark: it doesnt matter, well in arch is easier. you just need the set of patches on booth sides |
| 21:34.29 | thurstylark | teraflops: what are they for? |
| 21:34.52 | teraflops | thurstylark: dramatically increase the speed over ssh |
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| 21:34.54 | teraflops | https://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh |
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| 21:36.27 | thurstylark | teraflops: neat. there's already an aur package for it :P |
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| 21:38.11 | teraflops | yep, you can patch debian too, I do via quilt and then build the package but it required a trial and error since few patches failed |
| 21:38.34 | tortib_ | how can i swap my ctrl and alt keys? |
| 21:38.35 | thurstylark | teraflops: any known impact to security? |
| 21:39.28 | teraflops | thurstylark: well, keep the set of patches up to date, if the stco packages receives security fixes rebuild it with the patchset |
| 21:39.37 | teraflops | stock* |
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| 21:40.02 | teraflops | tortib_: hehe apple :P |
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| 22:13.26 | wuffi600 | hi |
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| 22:20.39 | jmcnaught | tortib: teraflops: i use libvirt/KVM quite a bit on Debian. You only need to be added to the libvirt group, not libvirt-qemu. Also changing permissions/owner on anything in /dev should not be necessary. If it's slow, I suspect that KVM acceleration is not actually working |
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| 22:22.31 | jmcnaught | tortib: "virsh -c qemu:///system dumpxml VM_NAME_HERE", the first line should say "<domain type='kvm' id='3'> (or some other number) |
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| 22:23.21 | teraflops | jmcnaught: yeah just needed to add the user to the group. I was curious and I set it up inside of qemu (debian jessie guest) |
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| 22:24.32 | jmcnaught | teraflops: ahh.. i'm not sure if the KVM in jessie supports virtualization in virtualized guests, but libvirt can definitely manage non-KVM qemu instances (and LXC, and others) |
| 22:25.44 | teraflops | jmcnaught: yeah it does I guess it's slow since is nested, but it's fine for testing things I suppose |
| 22:26.27 | jmcnaught | but as far as getting libvirt+KVM working, on jessie, it's basically just install libvirt-daemon, and add a user to the libvirt group |
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| 22:27.15 | jmcnaught | teraflops: makes sense it would be slow like that, but there might be some virt-inside-virt that can be done, or maybe in newer kernel/libvirt |
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| 22:29.38 | jmcnaught | libvirt can also manage virtualbox and xen guests, but i'm not sure how common that is |
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| 22:31.52 | teraflops | hmm virtualbox can do kvm if I remember correctly, never tried it though |
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| 22:39.55 | cwong_on_irc | is there a patch for the imagemagick vulnerability available? |
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| 22:40.59 | markybob | cwong_on_irc: that's been fixed for a while |
| 22:41.19 | markybob | cwong_on_irc: https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3547 |
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| 22:42.27 | cwong_on_irc | markybob: not this one? https://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=29588 |
| 22:44.25 | markybob | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.43 | cwong_on_irc | ah. |
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| 22:45.13 | jmcnaught | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/imagemagick |
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| 22:45.34 | jmcnaught | there are some new CVEs from this week that don't have patches yet |
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| 22:55.47 | markybob | that's a shame |
| 22:55.48 | dTal | hoho burn! |
| 22:56.27 | TomTomTosch | follinge: you might want to do that in the status tab next time and change your password. |
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| 22:56.55 | markybob | damn |
| 22:56.56 | dTal | *facepalm* |
| 22:57.03 | qeni | lol :D |
| 22:57.05 | markybob | follinge: stop using a space before / |
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| 22:57.17 | markybob | and do what TomTomTosch suggested |
| 22:58.51 | cwong_on_irc | spam ^^ |
| 22:59.19 | dTal | to what possible end? |
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| 23:00.00 | TomTomTosch | comic relief? |
| 23:01.01 | dTal | or a honeypot to draw out the unscrupulous? |
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| 23:24.57 | locrian9 | Can someone help me with some steps to create a bootable install USB (.iso) of "debian-40r9-i386-netinst.iso"? I've got the .iso downloaded, but either "cp" or "dd" commands aren't working. |
| 23:26.21 | locrian9 | Followed through this video, but my HP Proliant server just sits at "Attempting Boot From Hard Drive (C:)"... |
| 23:26.45 | locrian9 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8oJAh5QLG8 |
| 23:26.55 | frostschutz | locrian9, do you have a bootloader that works on this box? then you could grab the netinst pxe kernel/initrd and boot that using the bootloader you already have |
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| 23:27.47 | markybob | locrian9: type the exact dd command you used. and why such an old version? |
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| 23:29.13 | locrian9 | frostschutz: I'll search through google to see if there's a bootloader on this HP Proliant server. It would probably show the bootloader in BIOS, right? |
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| 23:31.14 | locrian9 | markybob: I used "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/usbstick status = progress". The version is required by some manufacturer. |
| 23:31.25 | markybob | locrian9: you did it wrong |
| 23:32.28 | jhutchins | locrian9: I don't think we're clear about what a bootloader is. |
| 23:32.38 | frostschutz | locrian9, uh, no. and you mean cp some.iso /dev/usbstick? (which may be sdb but you should check fdisk -l or similar) |
| 23:32.39 | markybob | locrian9: dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync |
| 23:32.52 | markybob | locrian9: no mounting |
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| 23:33.35 | markybob | locrian9: if it's mounted, umount first |
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| 23:33.55 | frostschutz | it will overwrite your stick so any other data on it will be *poof* gone |
| 23:34.12 | locrian9 | markybob: Yes, I'll try that format out. |
| 23:34.29 | markybob | frostschutz: stop with the cp stuff. won't work with etch iso |
| 23:34.45 | markybob | locrian9: you still didn't answer why such an old release |
| 23:34.46 | jhutchins | markybob: Sure it will. |
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| 23:35.46 | locrian9 | The version is required by some manufacturer that has some SNMP manager that they're holding onto for some reason. |
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| 23:36.22 | locrian9 | markybob: I'm just trying to be compliant with them. |
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| 23:37.09 | locrian9 | Ok, I'll do this "dd" attempt live now, and report back. |
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| 23:44.55 | locrian9 | markybob: So far so good. Here's the terminal output: https://ptpb.pw/Tmrw |
| 23:45.32 | markybob | jhutchins: how do you figure? debian didn't switch to hybrid iso's back then |
| 23:46.04 | markybob | locrian9: you know there's no security for that release, right? |
| 23:46.26 | locrian9 | markybob: Yes, this server just sits on a LAN. |
| 23:47.02 | locrian9 | markybob: Now I'm going to try to boot the USB from BIOS... |
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| 23:47.33 | markybob | locrian9: looks good |
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| 23:48.13 | locrian9 | Proliant BIOS sreen shot... Array controller starting... |
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| 23:48.29 | locrian9 | two beeps... |
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| 23:50.00 | locrian9 | Attempting Boot from USB DriveKey (C:)... Attempting Boot From Hard Drive (C:).... Attempting Boot from NIC ... Non System Disk Error... Replace and strike any key. |
| 23:50.22 | locrian9 | There's another USB port on the back of the server. Let me try that one. |
| 23:51.04 | Habitual | F12 on Proliant pre-POST does what? |
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| 23:53.16 | locrian9 | Habitual: On this server (HSTNS-2115) the F9 key gets you into BIOS. F12 just beeps at me. |
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| 23:53.44 | Habitual | was guessing. It's been 15 years since I've seen a Proliant. |
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| 23:54.16 | locrian9 | Habitual: Looks like before POST, the F12 key lets you do PXE boot (whatever that is). |
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| 23:55.27 | markybob | locrian9: a couple things. that server is 64-bit. so you probably shouldn't be using i386. second, netinst probably won't work since it's in archive. third, it probably uses uefi. etch doesn't support that. |
| 23:55.35 | Habitual | IDK about "that", but I found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PXE should you care what PXE booting is. |
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| 23:56.58 | podre | locrian9, where are you creating this bootable thumb drive? does the system have a GUI? if so, why not using a GUI tool to create it and check the things markybob told you |
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| 23:58.27 | locrian9 | markybob: Yes, I'll look through those suggestions. Thanks! |
| 23:58.39 | markybob | locrian9: http://ftp.riken.go.jp/Linux/debian/debian-cdimage/archive/4.0_r9/amd64/iso-cd/debian-40r9-amd64-CD-1.iso |
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| 23:58.51 | markybob | but the uefi thing might be a killer |
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| 23:59.45 | locrian9 | podre: I'm creating this with my Arch linux box. I tried "unetbootin" but had some issues with missing files. |
