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| 00:10.15 | Lady_Aleena | Darn, still not organization chart software for Linux. |
| 00:10.25 | Lady_Aleena | s/not/no/; |
| 00:10.42 | Lady_Aleena | I usually make that mistake the other way around. |
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| 00:12.37 | Lady_Aleena | And no family tree software either. Darn it. |
| 00:12.40 | zykotick9 | markybob: that's a helpful "also a..." for those of us ignorant of "plex". thanks. |
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| 00:16.15 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: http://www.gramps-project.org/ also "aptitude search ~Gfield::genealogy" and for organizational chart software maybe a mind mapper like freemind, vym, or a tool like dia for UML? |
| 00:16.47 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, be right back, my stove buzzer is going. |
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| 00:19.40 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I just used apt-cache search 'org chart' and apt-cache search 'family tree' |
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| 00:20.58 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, Gramps is a bit more complex than I need for drawing out fictional family trees. |
| 00:21.19 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: the aptitude search i gave you search for packages with the debtag field::genealogy, there were a couple of others. dia might be what you want |
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| 00:21.46 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I looked at dia, and it looks like a gimp clone. |
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| 00:21.58 | Lady_Aleena | If I am remembering correctly. |
| 00:22.07 | jmcnaught | ,i dia |
| 00:22.08 | judd | Package dia (graphics, optional) in jessie/amd64: Diagram editor. Version: 0.97.3-1; Size: 193.0k; Installed: 575k; Homepage: http://live.gnome.org/Dia; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/dia |
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| 00:23.19 | kumogami | Hihi! Anybody want to recommend a torrent friendly VPN service? |
| 00:23.55 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, have you ever used dia? |
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| 00:26.01 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: no but my girlfriend was checking it out for her programming class. it's been around for a while. i think most people use it for making UML diagrams but it does seem more general than that. |
| 00:26.27 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: i played with freemind before, but vym is new to me |
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| 00:27.53 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, I'm looking for something rather simple and easy to use. |
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| 00:28.54 | Lady_Aleena | And buzzer again. |
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| 00:40.23 | akhet | Anyone free to help with a networking issue? |
| 00:40.45 | dvs | !ask |
| 00:40.46 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:44.09 | akhet | I'm having internet connection issues on a desktop Debian (Squeeze) install. Have a feeling it's a DNS issue. /etc/resolv.conf is completely blank. It appears dhclient is clearing it. That's the only network service running on the machine. Which is connected via eth0. |
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| 00:46.43 | dvs | akhet, Is eth0 set up by getting an IP address from DHCP? |
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| 00:47.38 | akhet | dvs, that's right. It has an IP and can ping the router. |
| 00:48.58 | dvs | akhet, my guess what be that the router does not have an IP for a nameserver |
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| 00:51.22 | akhet | dvs, I'm currently on the same network experiencing no issues. Though suspiciously can't ping anything. traceroute gives expected results, though. |
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| 00:52.08 | akhet | *can't ping outside of the local network, that is. |
| 00:52.40 | Devastator | is there a way to check what command-line was used to start a service? |
| 00:52.50 | Devastator | full command-line in this case |
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| 00:52.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could look in the logs what happens... |
| 00:53.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | or if you know it's dhclient, you could run dhclient -d from the command line to see what it does |
| 00:53.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure one sees what info it gets, though |
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| 00:55.22 | dvs | akhet, what were you trying to ping? |
| 00:56.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | Devastator, ps shows the options it's running with |
| 00:57.33 | Devastator | CutMeOwnThroat the line is too long, I need the full command to pastebin |
| 00:57.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | what do you mean, too long |
| 00:57.56 | akhet | CutMeOwnThroat: not much interesting there |
| 00:57.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | ps auxwwwwwww |
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| 00:58.31 | akhet | dvs: www.google.com duckduckgo etc |
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| 00:58.42 | Devastator | CutMeOwnThroat thank you :) |
| 00:58.53 | dvs | akhet, try ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 00:59.29 | akhet | dvs: nothing |
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| 00:59.58 | akhet | but I can trace it |
| 01:00.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | is this a virtual machine? |
| 01:00.32 | akhet | CutMeOwnThroat: it's another laptop |
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| 01:02.52 | akhet | It's a friends that I sort of take care of. I did an update a few weeks ago so I thought maybe something broke, up apparently the connection issues didn't being until a week or so later. |
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| 01:03.05 | akhet | didn't begin* |
| 01:04.18 | rjsalts | akhet: is ping setuid root? |
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| 01:05.03 | rjsalts | akhet: are you blocking icmp echo on a firewall of some kind? |
| 01:06.03 | akhet | rjsalts: I'm not sure, I'll check about the firewall |
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| 01:07.23 | rjsalts | akhet: traceroute on linux uses udp by default |
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| 01:11.08 | akhet | rjsalts: quick nmap scan says it may be blocking pings. It's one of those xfinity routers, figures. I'll mess with the firewall settings. |
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| 01:16.44 | akhet | rjsalts: seems like the low/medium/high built in settings all block pings |
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| 01:46.34 | Arthur_D | how can I find the broadcast address of my interface? |
| 01:47.01 | JustinHitla | I use command "sudo pand -n -c A4:CE:06:03:E0:16 -p10 -i hci0 -u /etc/bluetooth/pan/dev-up" it brings up "bnep0" interface but looks like commands from "dev-up" file don't run at all, they should bring interface up, assign ip, and assign route, but its if I don't use "-u file" option at all, so I need to run that file separately, so why do you |
| 01:47.06 | JustinHitla | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.55 | markybob | Arthur_D: /sbin/ifconfig -a will tell you what it's set at |
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| 01:49.26 | Arthur_D | thanks :) |
| 01:49.56 | JustinHitla | Arthur_D: or you can calculate it |
| 01:50.15 | JustinHitla | just set all 1 where netmask is zero |
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| 02:08.03 | akhet | intersting thing on Debian squeeze happened to me. /etc/resolv.conf was being overwritten by some process and was completely blank. I'm not sure what was doing it, but I ran echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf && ifdown -a ; ifup -a |
| 02:08.57 | akhet | and got: cannot move '/etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new' to '/etc/resolv.conf' |
| 02:09.39 | markybob | really? |
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| 02:10.25 | akhet | so then I assumed resolv.conf.dhclient-new was blank for some reason. It wasn't, and had the correct config. |
| 02:11.31 | markybob | really nothing you've said has made sense |
| 02:11.55 | markybob | what do you think echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" would do other than spit it out in console? it's not editing a file |
| 02:12.06 | markybob | none of the rest has any logic either |
| 02:12.35 | akhet | echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf is what I meant |
| 02:13.00 | akhet | sorry about that |
| 02:13.02 | markybob | yeah. things like that matter. kind of affect how we can help you. come back when you're sober |
| 02:13.53 | akhet | I don't need help. I fixed it and am sober. Just brought it up because it was strange. |
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| 04:23.36 | password2 | can someone help me perhaps in installing a few 32bit packages? I've tried to add the i386 architecture using dpkg but it still cant find the libs http://pastebin.com/dCa1HqJr |
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| 04:27.21 | password2 | I'm on debian 8.1 |
| 04:29.01 | cerium | password2: i assume you are running stable? the packages appear to be in testing so you could use apt-pinning to pull them from there. |
| 04:29.47 | cerium | oh i see, you said 8.1 |
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| 04:30.19 | password2 | i think i am on stable |
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| 04:30.56 | cerium | consider apt-pinning. you could also try to find the packages somewhere and manually install them with dpkg. |
| 04:31.48 | password2 | whenever i try to manually download the packages i get an dependency error |
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| 04:33.01 | cerium | password2: https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences worth a shot |
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| 04:36.19 | cerium | if you don't like that approach then wait and maybe someone will have a better answer |
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| 04:36.39 | password2 | I'm reading through it now |
| 04:36.49 | password2 | i dont think i have much choice either way |
| 04:38.00 | password2 | packages always finds a way to own me |
| 04:38.03 | cerium | just to be clear, i'm only saying the three packages you tried to install are in testing. no guarantee they actually provide those binaries (i assume you've already determined that via research) |
| 04:38.35 | password2 | well that what the microchip site says |
| 04:38.49 | cerium | ah |
| 04:38.54 | password2 | http://microchip.wikidot.com/install:mplabx-lin64 |
| 04:39.32 | cerium | pin only the specific packages |
| 04:39.42 | cerium | and hope you don't have dependency problems |
| 04:40.09 | cerium | you may want to do further research on apt pinning before continuing |
| 04:40.17 | cerium | and make sure you're ok with it |
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| 04:40.52 | password2 | ok |
| 04:41.07 | password2 | well borking an install is part of linux usage |
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| 04:41.14 | cerium | haha yeah |
| 04:41.17 | somiaj | password2: you do not want to install packages for testing on stable. You will break your system (maybe) and won't get any support from us |
| 04:41.36 | somiaj | if you need a package from testing and it is not in stable, check backports, if it is not in backports, build you own package (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 04:41.37 | password2 | somiaj, i dont get much support anyway |
| 04:41.55 | password2 | building sound like even more trouble |
| 04:42.16 | somiaj | cerium: and advising that someone isntall packages from testing while running stable is usually considered bad advise, it has a chance to put their system in a broken state. |
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| 04:42.34 | somiaj | password2: it is mostly automatic (depending ont he package) and far safter than installing the binaries from testing (espically because of the gcc5 transition) |
| 04:43.24 | cerium | somiaj: that's why i suggested to do further reading on it before decided, and the apt preferences page i linked states to check backports first. |
| 04:43.30 | cerium | deciding* |
| 04:44.10 | cerium | i also said to wait for someone else to possibly reply with a better answer. i tried to caution that it may not be the best. |
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| 04:44.29 | cerium | regardless, it is an option that some people may choose. |
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| 04:46.48 | cerium | password2: the packages don't appear to be in backports |
| 04:47.34 | somiaj | password2: that script you are running probably wasn't written for debian? With apt-cache search you may find alternative libs it can use. Does the program come with any other install guides as to how to install it in debian jessie? |
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| 04:48.19 | password2 | only the one I linked |
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| 04:48.44 | password2 | maybe there are others |
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| 04:51.33 | somiaj | password2: yea looking closer, libstd++6 is for gcc-6, which isn't available in jessie and I don't think is easily available (as you want to keep your core libc6 libary at the version in jessie which is 4.9 I think) |
| 04:53.19 | password2 | meh |
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| 04:53.26 | password2 | then i am screwed once more |
| 04:53.57 | somiaj | password2: looks like they provide older versions, they might work for you and be compiled against the libs available in jessie. |
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| 04:54.19 | jmcnaught | ,v libstdc++6 |
| 04:54.24 | judd | Package: libstdc++6 on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; wheezy: 4.7.2-5; jessie: 4.9.2-10; stretch: 6.1.1-1; sid: 6.1.1-3 |
| 04:54.40 | password2 | i think it will be better to switch to a windows version instead |
| 04:54.47 | jmcnaught | somiaj: password2: i don't think the 6 means gcc6 for this package |
| 04:54.48 | somiaj | jmcnaught: hmm, I thought I looked but I didn't see it in jessie. Guess i'm blind |
| 04:54.53 | password2 | using wine |
| 04:55.10 | password2 | the only reason i avoid it is because i dont have enough internet cap |
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| 04:55.50 | somiaj | jmcnaught: yea you are correct, I overloked that, my search only gave me the stretch packages which are compiled against gcc6 |
| 04:56.23 | jmcnaught | password2: i just took a look at your paste and the packages that it's saying are missing are available on my system |
| 04:56.26 | somiaj | password2: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libstdc++6 there is one of the libs it sayd it couldn't find. |
| 04:57.03 | somiaj | password2: care to give us the output of 'apt-cache policy' |
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| 04:57.37 | jmcnaught | password2: did you do "dpkg --add-architecture i386" and then "apt-get update"? |
| 04:58.19 | password2 | jmcnaught, yes |
| 04:58.36 | password2 | http://pastebin.com/fNJkY33k |
| 04:59.06 | markybob | a lot of us can't view pastebin. i cant. use paste.debian.net |
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| 04:59.37 | somiaj | password2: your sources.list are incpomplete you only contain security.debian.org sources, you don't actually have the main debian sources. |
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| 04:59.51 | markybob | !sources.list |
| 04:59.51 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 05:00.04 | cerium | that'll do it |
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| 05:03.12 | password2 | it found things to install , thanx |
| 05:03.27 | password2 | will see if this resolves all my issues |
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| 05:04.58 | password2 | there we go , the installer is happy |
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| 05:09.35 | password2 | meh , now i need a compiler |
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| 05:15.35 | markybob | can some gnu screen master explain to me why this happens and wtf? https://paste.debian.net/684324/ |
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| 05:18.19 | markybob | it's not attached. i'm on a cell phone tether and that's why i use screen. my connection sucks |
| 05:18.32 | jmcnaught | markybob: what if you do "screen -dr"? |
| 05:19.28 | markybob | jmcnaught: thank you for correcting my dumbassery. it works. |
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| 05:20.16 | jmcnaught | markybob: actually i prefer "screen -DR" which does a power reattach (logs out the other remote if it's still running) |
| 05:20.43 | jmcnaught | markybob: you might also like https://mosh.mit.edu/ |
| 05:20.57 | markybob | jmcnaught: will read up on that. thanks again |
| 05:21.04 | jmcnaught | cheers |
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| 07:12.32 | awk | hi, can someone advise, when building a deb I need to do something like this after clean: ps aux | grep mysql | grep jasper | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9 |
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| 07:38.03 | madprops | is there something else i need to do to fully upgrade to testing? |
| 07:38.17 | madprops | can't seem to be able to install gnome-session due to unmet dependencies |
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| 07:53.58 | madprops | well upgrading to unstable fixed it |
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| 08:01.35 | rjsalts | anyone know why my screen session is coming up with "No more PTYs." This is only one instance of screen when trying to use "screen -S foo -X screen". If I start up another instance of screen it works fine |
| 08:01.54 | rjsalts | all the stuff in /dev/pts seems fine, etc. |
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| 08:07.39 | rjsalts | http://paste.debian.net/plain/684569 |
| 08:09.18 | d3lphi | hi all. Maybe you remember, I wrote about 10 hours ago here where my Debian VM crashed and wasnt able to reboot any more. It throwed me these errors at boot time ==> http://imgur.com/a/scdjC I wasn able to fix them. Markybob told me that it is caused because upgraded from wheezy to Jessie. I was not sure if it was Wheezy. Now I restored from the backup/snapshot I had done before. I see that this machine is |
| 08:09.24 | d3lphi | already on Jessie, look here ==> http://imgur.com/tGHNhVF |
| 08:09.44 | d3lphi | why does an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" cause the machine not to boot any more and fail with the showed screenshots ?? I dont understand. It *IS* on Jessie |
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| 08:10.56 | Guest28607 | Hi, i wan to install Debian but idk what iso to use: debian-8.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent or debian-update-8.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent what's the difference plz ? |
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| 08:11.40 | Guest28607 | debian update is better ? |
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| 08:13.40 | d3lphi | debian update ? what you mean Guest28607 ? |
| 08:14.18 | Guest28607 | in here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.4.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 08:14.39 | d3lphi | anyone can help related to my question above? |
| 08:16.06 | rjsalts | Guest28607: https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#update-cd |
| 08:16.51 | Guest28607 | ty |
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| 08:17.24 | rjsalts | Guest28607: i.e. if you don't have the CD/DVD for jessie already the update will be largely pointless |
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| 08:19.06 | d3lphi | is http://imgur.com/tGHNhVF a proof that Jessie is installed or is there a more "deep/secure" way to ensure that Jessie is being used on that system? If that is Jessie, why does "apt-get upgrade" cause the system not to boot any more and bring these errors ==> http://imgur.com/a/scdjC |
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| 08:21.03 | rjsalts | d3lphi: that was after running apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade with jessie in your sources.list |
| 08:22.25 | rjsalts | d3lphi: but it looks like you originally had squeeze from the cdrom line (so presumably you've done squeeze -> wheezy -> jessie over the lifetime of the VM) |
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| 08:23.31 | rjsalts | d3lphi: presumably there is something in https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html that you've missed |
| 08:23.34 | d3lphi | rjsalts: yes correct, it started with squeeze, that's why you still see the commented lines sources.list. Then it was upgraded to wheezy and I thinkg it was then updated to jessie. Yesterday I did run only "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and NOT apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 08:25.07 | d3lphi | how do I check if I have currently installed packages from "jessie" ? |
| 08:25.43 | rjsalts | d3lphi: the only difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that upgrade will not install or uninstall any new packages to satisfy dependencies |
| 08:26.12 | rjsalts | d3lphi: apt-get -s dist-upgrade |
| 08:26.46 | d3lphi | but that still doesn't explain why the upgrade yesterday failed and caused the showed errors |
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| 08:29.09 | Lope | is there a way to use smbmount on jessie? I'm using a kernel with no CIFS support. So I'd like to mount using some userspace tool? |
| 08:29.15 | rjsalts | d3lphi: I'd suggest looking at systemctl status |
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| 08:30.32 | Lope | I don't see a smbfs package in jessie. |
| 08:33.21 | d3lphi | rjsalts: I suspect that my problem machine does contain "jessie" in its sources.list (by the former admin) but was not upgraded to Jessie yet. Because when I look at the screenshot "http://imgur.com/tGHNhVF" the "apt-get upgrade" command is trying to install the package "systemd" and "systemd-sysv". If it was already on Jessie the package should be there, shouldn't it ? |
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| 08:42.34 | d3lphi | how do I check if systemd or sysv is used on a Debian system ? |
| 08:42.47 | CyberJacob | Does anybody know of a USB Wi-Fi adapter that supports monitor mode under Debian? |
| 08:43.14 | CyberJacob | strugaling to find one that doesn't use the RTL8188cu chipset |
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| 08:45.03 | TomTomTosch | d3lphi: 'ps aux' and see what has PID 1. |
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| 08:47.14 | d3lphi | TomTomTosch: ok, so when I run "stat /proc/1/exe" and I get a reply "file: â/proc/1/exeâ -> â/lib/systemd/systemdâ" does that definitely is a proof that systemd is running ? |
| 08:48.18 | d3lphi | the same for "stat /sbin/init" (this is PID 1 in my case according to ps aux). That command also outputs /lib/systemd/systemd so my machine is definitely on systemd, right ? |
| 08:48.24 | TomTomTosch | should be. |
| 08:49.54 | Ingvix | what was the option to change owner of the directory and all its files with chown? |
| 08:50.04 | Ingvix | my english is a bit poor for the help to know for sure |
| 08:50.17 | d3lphi | and " dpkg -S /sbin/init" throws me as result "systemd-sysv: /sbin/init" so I assume my system definitely is on Jessie, right ? |
| 08:50.45 | d3lphi | Ingvix: "chown -R foo /directory" |
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| 08:50.59 | Ingvix | d3lphi, thanks |
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| 08:51.09 | d3lphi | Ingvix: you're welcome |
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| 08:51.47 | Elronnd | Do I want DVD-1, 2, or 3? |
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| 08:51.58 | d3lphi | Elronnd: DVD-6 |
| 08:52.19 | d3lphi | Elronnd: what the hell are you talking about and how should WE know ? |
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| 08:52.36 | TomTomTosch | Elronnd: if the target system has an internet connection you can go with netinst. otherwise the installer is on the first dvd. |
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| 08:53.19 | Elronnd | wait |
| 08:53.29 | Elronnd | does netinst mean something other than boot from LAN? |
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| 08:54.03 | TomTomTosch | it means it only installs the base system from your install medium and pulls everything else from the internet. |
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| 08:54.32 | Elronnd | ah, okay |
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| 08:54.38 | Elronnd | that makes more sense |
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| 10:21.44 | m__ | Hello. I have just installed Debian, and on my first boot it shows a command line how do I go to GUI |
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| 10:23.34 | a1p | m__: which iso? |
| 10:23.49 | a1p | if it was Debian mini, there's no GUI by default. |
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| 10:24.10 | Kirito | http://hastebin.com/kusegixefa.vhdl Trying to run a PYthon setup script from a Debian container seems to cause the process to hang indefinitely. It gets stuck trying to submit the request. Seems like there's some issue with OpenSSL, but I'm not sure what would be causing it. |
| 10:25.10 | m__ | It was netinsall |
| 10:25.18 | Guest33124 | Hi, i have debian jessie and i want to install Steam i have installed the Nvidia driver from backport but when i launch Steam it stay that "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:libGL.so.1" what should i do plz if i install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 it will break my driver from backport ? |
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| 10:27.06 | abrotman | m__: which GUI do you want? |
| 10:27.47 | Guest33124 | execute tasksel and select Xfce or another guy |
| 10:27.52 | a1p | m__: netinstall is the same as mini |
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| 10:28.17 | a1p | m__: ++, tasksel or aptiitude and choose GUI meta-package |
| 10:28.24 | m__ | Ah, okay. So should is natal de from this command line, right? |
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| 10:28.32 | m__ | I install* |
| 10:28.41 | a1p | yep |
| 10:28.42 | abrotman | m__: yes, you can. Which GUI do yo uwant? |
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| 10:30.34 | m__ | Xfce |
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| 10:30.45 | m__ | What options do I have, though? |
| 10:31.06 | abrotman | almost all available to linux |
| 10:31.50 | m__ | Abrotman: thanks |
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| 10:34.56 | flog | oh nice, svorak.a5 was included by default with xorg! |
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| 10:58.17 | m__ | Hey, I have installed Mate, but it still goes straight to that command line and not GUI |
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| 11:00.49 | m__ | Anybody? |
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| 11:06.38 | teraflops | m__: install a DM? https://wiki.debian.org/DisplayManager |
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| 11:06.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | what else is mate, but a dm |
| 11:07.14 | teraflops | CutMeOwnThroat: mate is a DE |
| 11:07.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 11:07.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
| 11:07.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just realized the letter mixup |
| 11:07.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | one second too late |
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| 11:08.09 | teraflops | sice m__ didn't mention startx I just threw at him the DM wiki page |
| 11:08.46 | abrotman | he probably watns to install xorg also |
| 11:09.34 | teraflops | sure, I don't remember if installing a DE installs xorg as well |
| 11:09.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | that seems likely... but doesn't at least a dm pull in that one anyway |
| 11:10.26 | m__ | Have xdm installed |
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| 11:10.36 | m__ | But at the login screen it has frozen |
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| 11:12.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought " but it still goes straight to that command line and not GUI" |
| 11:12.23 | m__ | Strange |
| 11:12.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | you don't mention a frozen login screen |
| 11:12.46 | m__ | Now there is after installing xdm |
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| 11:13.08 | teraflops | m__: for mate lightdm or gdm sounds like a better choice |
| 11:13.37 | m__ | How should I install it now, system strategy away goes to xdm frozen screen |
| 11:13.59 | teraflops | ctrl+alt+f whatever? |
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| 11:14.52 | m__ | Nah ctrl all F1 etc isn't working |
| 11:14.56 | teraflops | ctrl+alt+f{1,2,3,4,5,6...} |
| 11:15.08 | m__ | Alt* |
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| 11:17.10 | Manis | Hi. I'm looking for a fast ARM board, on which I can easily run Debian (preferably mainline kernel). Any suggestions? |
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| 11:19.28 | teraflops | Manis: I like ODROID-XU4 |
| 11:19.54 | teraflops | Manis: there are literally hundred of arm boards out there |
| 11:20.31 | Manis | teraflops, it looks interesting, but can I use debian-installer? |
| 11:20.49 | teraflops | not sure Manis |
| 11:20.54 | teraflops | I'm* |
| 11:21.14 | Manis | teraflops, do you have one yourself? |
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| 11:22.49 | teraflops | not yet (waiting) but I have sevral odroids C1 U3 etc, I run debian there with official repos via community images |
| 11:23.05 | teraflops | by community I mean a guy that did by himself |
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| 11:24.51 | Manis | teraflops, OK. I prefer to install a system the way I like it by myself. |
| 11:25.24 | iKarith | Hi all, I have a udev question: When configuring a device with ATTRS{port_number}==0, how do I determine if there is a device with ATTRS{port_number}==1? In other words, if the device will be configured differently based on whether or not it has more than one port, how do I detect that? |
| 11:25.46 | Manis | I'm really considering the 96Boards HiKey. Apart from the kernel it looks like you can get it up and running without much of hassle (even comes preinstalled with Debian) |
| 11:25.55 | teraflops | Manis: I prefer ask myself about the money, sata or no sata, gbit ethernet, built in bt/wifi or not etc |
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| 11:27.03 | teraflops | Manis: what's your goal? devel? gaming? workstation? multimedia? headless server? |
| 11:27.28 | Manis | teraflops, That's important too but I don't want to tinker around with it for everything I want to do. I want to set it up once and then have it running without much maintenance |
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| 11:28.45 | jeremie | Hi people o/ |
| 11:29.22 | jeremie | i'm currently trying to update my debian, with the command line => 'apt-get update' |
| 11:30.23 | brontosaurusrex | jeremie: and? |
| 11:30.24 | jeremie | but i get a timeout error message >__< |
| 11:31.15 | jeremie | so my question is => could anyone give me some hints about how i could troubleshoot this problem ? |
| 11:31.17 | jeremie | please ? |
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| 11:32.32 | Manis | jeremie, can you "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d"? |
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| 11:33.18 | jeremie | yes, of course, here's my sources.list => |
| 11:33.24 | jeremie | deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main |
| 11:33.25 | jeremie | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main |
| 11:33.27 | jeremie | deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main |
| 11:33.28 | jeremie | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main |
| 11:33.30 | jeremie | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
| 11:34.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 11:35.00 | teraflops | combo |
| 11:35.01 | Manis | that escalated quickly... |
| 11:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | yach... well |
| 11:35.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | !next |
| 11:35.32 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 11:36.45 | Manis | not sure if the customer was happy though |
| 11:37.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see him saying he's not |
| 11:38.25 | iKarith | Yeah, don't see how to distinguish the first port of a multi-port device from a single port device |
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| 11:40.34 | jeremie | ok, sorry, i'll use pastebin from now on,... |
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| 11:41.11 | jeremie | So, for the "ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d", here it is => "total 0" |
| 11:42.20 | jeremie | And for the cat sources.list, it's here too => |
| 11:42.22 | jeremie | http://pastebin.com/WuSnasiK |
| 11:43.04 | Manis | jeremie, OK. can you pastebin the output of apt-get update? |
| 11:43.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | those addresses use some http redirection to find the best mirror and some people have problems with those |
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| 11:45.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could try switching http://http.debian.net/debian to http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ everywhere |
| 11:46.09 | jeremie | CutMeOwnThroat: i did so and i just successfully made my apt-get update ! |
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| 11:46.39 | jeremie | CutMeOwnThroat, Manis : Thank you, i'm now trying to make an apt-get upgrade ^^" |
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| 11:46.57 | Manis | jeremie, good luck |
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| 12:37.41 | nkz | Hi, I just installed debian but I am having problem with fonts in webpages. Some headings look tall and blurred. Here is an example: https://i.sli.mg/z17P6c.png |
| 12:37.52 | nkz | any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 12:38.20 | nkz | It happens in iceweasel too |
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| 12:39.21 | Cerealkill3r | nkz, I had that problem too, when I first installed Debian, try this link http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=88545 |
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| 12:41.27 | nkz | Cerealkill3r: I did that! Usual normal font on webpages look a lot better after I installed those packages and changed a style, but the heading font like in my example is still weird |
| 12:41.53 | Cerealkill3r | nkz, hmm, this is weird, did you log out and log back in? |
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| 12:42.22 | nkz | yes Cerealkill3r |
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| 12:42.34 | Cerealkill3r | does this only happen in iceweasel? |
| 12:43.05 | nkz | In chrome too |
| 12:43.40 | Cerealkill3r | i'm looking at the screenshot, the font seems to be good |
| 12:44.07 | nkz | Cerealkill3r: check bottom left, top right for example |
| 12:44.07 | Cerealkill3r | oh, sorry, i looked at it again, what font are you using? |
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| 12:44.39 | nkz | Droid sans |
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| 12:47.59 | Cerealkill3r | nkz, I've never seen this before, i thought it was just the default debian font rendering that's bothering you, have you tried changing the font? |
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| 12:50.37 | nkz | I did in both chrome and system. It isn't helping, just makes it worse |
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| 12:52.17 | Cerealkill3r | I'm sorry, I don't think I can help you, I think you'll have to dig it up on google,btw is that KDE that you're using? |
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| 14:12.27 | DrBunsen | Hello, I have installed the nvidia prop drivers and steam, and running a multiple screen desktop. My problem is that games do not get portrayed on the main screen, does anybody know what I should do to fix this? |
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| 14:45.39 | Tundra-Server | Can someone help me install dosemu on jessie? I see that its available on the website(the debian website) But I can't find it with "apt search" and I cannot install it with either apt-get or apt |
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| 14:46.53 | donoban | Tundra-Server: try "apt-get update" first, then apt-get install dosemu |
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| 14:47.55 | Tundra-Server | donoban: ah, that may well be it. I tend to forget that one |
| 14:48.33 | donoban | and maybe you don't have extra repository enabled |
| 14:48.33 | Tundra-Server | donoban: nada: E: Package 'dosemu' has no installation candidate |
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| 14:49.42 | donoban | edit your /et/apt/source.list |
| 14:49.57 | donoban | you should have some line like deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free |
| 14:50.05 | donoban | add extra after non-free |
| 14:50.14 | donoban | run apt-get update && apt-get install dosemu again |
| 14:50.53 | donoban | ahhh |
| 14:50.54 | donoban | no |
| 14:50.55 | donoban | lol |
| 14:51.03 | donoban | Tundra-Server: forgive it, it's on contrib |
| 14:51.09 | donoban | extra doesn't exist, do you have contrib enabled? |
| 14:51.23 | Tundra-Server | Ah, no I do not |
| 14:51.30 | donoban | that's the problem :) |
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| 14:53.35 | Tundra-Server | donoban: that seems to have done it. Thank you sir |
| 14:53.38 | aubergine | hi. without having "-I INPUT -p icmpv6 -j ACCEPT" in the ip6tables configuration my ipv6 connectivity doesn't work after a few minutes. I can't ping ipv6.google.com anymore and so on. |
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| 14:53.43 | donoban | nice |
| 14:53.44 | aubergine | Any ideas? |
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| 14:56.00 | donoban | aubergine: do you have ACCEPT policy? |
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| 14:58.06 | aubergine | no i have DROP. I see that the gateway is sending icmp6 messages all the time. These get blocked then. |
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| 15:01.24 | aubergine | Ok. I found out that ICMP has a different role in ipv6. Sorry. http://blogs.cisco.com/security/icmp-and-security-in-ipv6 |
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| 15:14.09 | aubergine | Is is secure to accept any ipv6 icmp on a directly internet connected device? |
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| 15:19.55 | password2 | is ismp unsecure? |
| 15:20.21 | password2 | no its not |
| 15:20.38 | password2 | you can abuse it , but ot much more |
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| 15:21.16 | password2 | the worst being ping and tracert , which is almost the same actually |
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| 15:24.49 | hiya | markybob, hey man, does crontab go in order? |
| 15:24.55 | hiya | like we add two things to it |
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| 15:25.01 | aubergine | i guess. but it was common to filter it out on ipv4 network right? |
| 15:25.01 | hiya | would it run the first thing first? |
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| 15:29.30 | TomTomTosch | hiya: you probably should ask the channel if you have a question. it's rude to just ping someone who has helped you before. and yes, it should run in order, if multiple entries have the same times. |
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| 15:29.51 | hiya | ok |
| 15:29.52 | hiya | :] |
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| 15:32.43 | hiya | TomTomTosch, Cannot I set a crontab for when a particular reboots? For example openvpn instance restarts etc? |
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| 15:34.12 | beardyname | more of a general question, but will my mobo without a built in gpu post without a graphics card? |
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| 15:34.51 | beardyname | I'm gonna run my old 920 as a server, and wondering if i need to find a cheap gp card to stick in there (after the initial install ofc) |
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| 15:40.48 | TomTomTosch | beardyname: you can even install debian without a graphics cards. this has more info: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetworkConsole |
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| 15:42.02 | beardyname | TomTomTosch, but will it post? |
| 15:42.05 | beardyname | I'm not sure |
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| 15:42.39 | TomTomTosch | yes. |
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| 15:42.55 | programmerq | beardyname: I've seen motherboards that have both behaviors. |
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| 15:43.35 | beardyname | programmerq, only way to find out is to test then :) |
| 15:43.39 | programmerq | yup |
| 15:43.49 | beardyname | Since I'm gonna run it headless i might as well try before getting something cheap |
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| 15:44.11 | beardyname | (I don't really want to run it fulltime with a gaming graphics card in there) |
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| 15:45.12 | beardyname | thx man! |
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| 15:45.52 | TomTomTosch | maybe you will have to press a key for the bios to proceed. depending on your mb. |
| 15:46.52 | TomTomTosch | so just mash your keyboard if it doesn't boot, i guess. |
| 15:46.57 | beardyname | :D |
| 15:47.06 | beardyname | I have a lot of testing to do so ^^ |
| 15:47.09 | beardyname | I'll mash away |
| 15:47.29 | TomTomTosch | good luck x) |
| 15:47.36 | beardyname | I have a bit of reading to do ^^ |
| 15:47.52 | beardyname | (and it's gonna take 2-3 days before my new computer gets here) |
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| 15:48.01 | jelly | or put in a cpu that does, er, have a gpu inside |
| 15:48.02 | beardyname | Hopefully my old 920 will turn out decent as a server |
| 15:48.15 | beardyname | gl with finding one for the 1366 platform :D |
| 15:48.24 | jelly | I have one lying around. |
| 15:48.43 | jelly | replaced the original i3-540 with an aes-ni capable i5-660 |
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| 15:49.09 | jelly | got the latter for... $50 or so |
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| 15:49.41 | beardyname | sure but then i would have to find an 5+ year old mobo to go along with it |
| 15:49.48 | jelly | same board. |
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| 15:50.03 | beardyname | my mobo has no video out connectos |
| 15:50.05 | beardyname | connectors* |
| 15:50.08 | jelly | hah |
| 15:50.34 | jelly | so much about that idea then |
| 15:50.38 | beardyname | :P |
| 15:50.42 | beardyname | ty for trying though |
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| 15:52.52 | beardyname | hopefully the power drain of the 920 won't kill me... |
| 15:53.49 | TomTomTosch | think about the ice bears? |
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| 15:57.23 | beardyname | TomTomTosch, I do, that's why i stay indoors in front of a screen :) |
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| 16:14.34 | Ingvix | pecl5.6-sp: command not found |
| 16:14.39 | Ingvix | what to do |
| 16:14.56 | Ingvix | I have all the needed packages installed |
| 16:15.28 | Ingvix | does my repositorys have outdated data |
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| 16:24.33 | Ingvix | oh, I was suppose use just pecl.. |
| 16:24.35 | Ingvix | never mind then |
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| 16:29.08 | n3ss | just installed debian on my desktop PC with an nvidia graphics card - for some reason the system is not detecting any monitors connected to that card |
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| 16:29.40 | n3ss | only getting a display on a monitor that's connected to my motherboard/onboard gpu after grub. |
| 16:30.03 | n3ss | any suggestions would be much appreciated |
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| 16:31.32 | _Agrid | hi ! |
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| 16:31.58 | _Agrid | I have some difficulties on raspbian |
| 16:31.59 | towo` | n3ss, maybe you have to activate the nvidia card 1st in your bios? |
| 16:32.24 | n3ss | hrm, should be activated but i'll check there. the device is showing up in lspci | grep VGA |
| 16:32.32 | towo` | _Agrid, then you should ask the raspbian folks |
| 16:32.45 | bazhang | #raspbian |
| 16:33.42 | n3ss | and xrandr shows ports from (presumably) that card as disconnected. |
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| 16:34.05 | _Agrid | towo thanks U but it seems nobody talk on the chan |
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| 16:34.26 | bazhang | _Agrid, then be patient |
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| 16:34.54 | _Agrid | my problem is about network difficulties |
| 16:35.02 | n3ss | I'm guessing i'm going to have to write my own xorg.conf. |
| 16:35.17 | _Agrid | I think the response could be the same on debian |
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| 16:35.31 | towo` | n3ss, do you want to use both gpu's? |
| 16:35.43 | n3ss | right now I'd be content with using just the nvidia |
| 16:35.48 | bazhang | _Agrid, as far as I know this channel does not support raspbian |
| 16:36.08 | towo` | n3ss, then set in your bios the graphics system to peg 1st |
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| 16:36.49 | n3ss | i'll see if i have that option. thanks. |
| 16:37.09 | towo` | n3ss, modern ardware does not deactivate igpu by installing a discrete card |
| 16:37.51 | _Agrid | ok bazhang thank u for your flexibility |
| 16:38.23 | _Agrid | it s just jessie operating system |
| 16:38.30 | _Agrid | :) |
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| 16:40.46 | tarkaram | hello all, am trying to remote desktop into my debian machine from my windows laptop, the login process goes through fine but I am getting a message that says "Oh no, something has gone wrong!" A problem has occured and the system cant recover |
| 16:41.12 | tarkaram | Apprciate any inputs on how to resolve this issue, google didnt quite help |
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| 16:42.40 | _Agrid | I try to setup AP Wifi on my raspberry from this tuto http://www.daveconroy.com/turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-wifi-hotspot-with-edimax-nano-usb-ew-7811un-rtl8188cus-chipset/. After to change the parameter in the interface file specially the bridge. I could not access through ssh |
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| 16:43.01 | debidi | tarkaram: run viewer from commandline with verbose output (if there is such option) |
| 16:43.05 | _Agrid | before bridging all is OK |
| 16:43.19 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell _Agrid about raspbian |
| 16:43.25 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell _Agrid about based on debian |
| 16:43.54 | n3ss | I'll no for sure in a sec, but I think that may have worked. |
| 16:44.00 | n3ss | know * |
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| 16:44.46 | jmcnaught | _Agrid: you of course have the option on running Debian on the device, but Raspbian is a modified version, and the Debian volunteers here don't follow everything that's been changed in every derivative |
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| 16:45.24 | jelly | and those that do are actually present in #raspbian as well |
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| 16:45.33 | _Agrid | jmcnaught: I understant, but i am sure it just network aspect like on debian config |
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| 16:47.15 | bazhang | ##networking then _Agrid |
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| 16:48.10 | bazhang | jelly whats the factoid for shiny new stuff if you are aware |
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| 16:49.18 | _Agrid | Thank U ! have a good day |
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| 16:54.45 | jelly | bazhang: !sns |
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| 16:55.45 | bazhang | cheers jelly |
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| 16:59.20 | ziz15 | can someone install debian arm on a tablet? |
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| 17:00.46 | TomTomTosch | depends on what tablet you have. you will have to search the internet if someone ported debian to that model. |
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| 17:02.24 | ziz15 | TomTomTosch: its a manta tablet i dont believe someone has ported debian on it show i will like to know if i could try the arm image.. |
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| 17:06.03 | laerus | hey, anyone else has a broken nvidia driver on stretch? |
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| 17:06.20 | laerus | after the last ipgra |
| 17:06.26 | laerus | upgrade* |
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| 17:06.49 | markybob | !debian-next |
| 17:06.49 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:11.10 | laerus | i am getting a "Failed to open drm device" |
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| 17:11.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | markybob, the factoid should mention more that it's on freenode, not here |
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| 17:12.36 | markybob | laerus: did you read the factoid? you're in the wrong place |
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| 17:13.34 | n3ss | made some prorgess, but xrandr is only detecting one monitor, and it's running at like 1024x768 |
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| 17:16.45 | Wtflux | why is http://paste.debian.org "Recent posts" filled with spam bot links to precription male enhancement drugs? |
| 17:17.05 | Wtflux | just curious, not bitching or complaining..i plan to use paste.deb as my new home for all paste related programming/code stuffs |
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| 17:19.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | you must mean paste.debian.net? |
| 17:20.29 | TomTomTosch | maybe some of us are in special need of those drugs. |
| 17:20.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I guess that's just the internets at work |
| 17:20.48 | TomTomTosch | or it's because it's open and free so spammers use it. |
| 17:21.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's always someone to abuse something, however pointless and stupid it may be to do so |
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| 17:22.15 | jelly | because throttling is ineffective and spam filtering at POST time is HARD? |
| 17:22.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | let's go shopping |
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| 17:23.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, well, write to Mr Wirt and tell him that! |
| 17:23.55 | jelly | goes shopping instead |
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| 17:55.00 | Wtflux | i just wonder why the spammers find paste so appealing? |
| 17:55.04 | Wtflux | is it one way to mask a link? |
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| 18:01.04 | hiddentooruser | Hi folks, i am having trouble installing php7 on debian 8.4 jessie |
| 18:01.23 | hiddentooruser | so basically, when i run "apt-cache search php7" it will find nothing |
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| 18:01.30 | hiddentooruser | same for notepadqq |
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| 18:02.11 | hiddentooruser | root@GTFO:/# apt-cache search php7 |
| 18:02.11 | hiddentooruser | root@GTFO:/# apt-cache search notepadqq |
| 18:02.11 | hiddentooruser | root@GTFO:/# |
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| 18:02.35 | TomTomTosch | ,v php7.0 |
| 18:02.36 | judd | Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- stretch: 7.0.6-1; sid: 7.0.6-3; sid: 7.0.6-10 |
| 18:02.54 | markybob | hiddentooruser: it's not in jessie. will never be in jessie |
| 18:02.58 | TomTomTosch | it's not in jessie. |
| 18:03.26 | TomTomTosch | there he was faster than me x) |
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| 18:04.44 | teraflops | hiddentooruser: your hostname is amazing thanks for sharing it with all of us :P |
| 18:05.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | :D |
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| 18:05.49 | hiddentooruser | yeah np, and what are you going to do with this information :3 ? |
| 18:06.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | tease you? |
| 18:06.46 | hiddentooruser | oh oki, i thought that may open up gates to my system :> |
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| 18:07.13 | teraflops | hiddentooruser: there's no php7 in debian jessie |
| 18:07.21 | hiddentooruser | :0 |
| 18:07.22 | Wtflux | nice host name i'll look into using it in the future |
| 18:07.25 | hiddentooruser | why not D: ? |
| 18:07.31 | hiddentooruser | thanks guys :> |
| 18:07.44 | Wtflux | much better than mine (r00tie) |
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| 18:08.08 | hiddentooruser | dont worry, thats a nice one too mate |
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| 18:08.16 | Wtflux | heaps |
| 18:08.40 | hiddentooruser | so there is no chance i can get php7 running on my system :$ ? |
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| 18:08.51 | TomTomTosch | not from the official repo. |
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| 18:09.00 | hiddentooruser | ohh :( |
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| 18:09.21 | hiddentooruser | i wonder why ubuntu offers this, but not debian |
| 18:09.32 | teraflops | it's in testing isn't it? |
| 18:09.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | why's there a php5 (meta) package and a php7.0 package but no php6[.0] package or the likes anyway |
| 18:09.42 | TomTomTosch | ubuntu is not debian and debian has it, just not jessie. |
| 18:09.42 | teraflops | no idea if there is a backport |
| 18:09.48 | teraflops | ,v php7 |
| 18:09.49 | judd | No package named 'php7' was found in amd64. |
| 18:09.59 | TomTomTosch | ,v php7.0 |
| 18:09.59 | teraflops | ,v php7.0 |
| 18:10.00 | markybob | it's not in backport |
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| 18:10.01 | judd | Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- stretch: 7.0.6-1; sid: 7.0.6-3; sid: 7.0.6-10 |
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| 18:10.17 | teraflops | markybob: ah ;) |
| 18:10.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, checkbackport php7.0 |
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| 18:10.20 | judd | Backporting package php7.0 in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libzip-dev (>= 1.0.0). |
| 18:10.35 | zZap-X | debian jessie network manager doesnt import a openvpn .ovpn config file |
| 18:10.46 | zZap-X | what other openvpn clients can one use |
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| 18:11.08 | hiddentooruser | zZap-X thanks for that info, i also failed with openvpn on debian |
| 18:11.25 | zZap-X | the most important feature doesnt work :/ |
| 18:11.34 | teraflops | zZap-X: does it throw any errors? |
| 18:11.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | hiddentooruser, debian stable releases are called "stable", because they are unchanging. no new packages get in and no new versions of existing packages get in, only bugfixes. As a consequence, new bugs can only appear with a new release of the next version of debian (and in rarer cases if bugfixes cause bugs) |
| 18:11.54 | zZap-X | no, i point it to the .ovpn file then nothing happens |
| 18:11.57 | zZap-X | back to the menu |
| 18:12.11 | zZap-X | i can open the the connect with openvpn --config no problem |
| 18:13.05 | n3ss | xrandr isn't showing any outputs on my graphics card, gtx 970 using nouveau. I've got one screen going but won't let me use a resolution higher than 1024x768 |
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| 18:13.10 | hiddentooruser | CutMe0wnThorat: thanks a lot for clarifying this, i didnt knew this info! I come from the windows section and i still have problems understanding linux in depth. Atleast now i know the background of "jessie" debian :) |
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| 18:15.10 | hiddentooruser | CutMe0wnThroat: can you suggest me a debian (not jessie) where i can add such sources? I thought stable release is best choice, but for atm it doesnt look like it. |
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| 18:17.52 | n3ss | oh, i think i need to update nouveau.. |
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| 18:18.46 | teraflops | n3ss: nouveau is in the kernel |
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| 18:19.23 | n3ss | oh. |
| 18:19.25 | n3ss | good piont. |
| 18:19.27 | nodiscc | in debian installer, is there a way to *always* add the user account to the sudo group? |
| 18:19.45 | nodiscc | ie where is adduser.conf for the installer |
| 18:20.42 | n3ss | still looks like i might have to install the nvidia drivers |
| 18:20.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | sudo isn't even installed by default for most set-ups |
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| 18:21.42 | nodiscc | it will be installed later (i have a tasksel task) |
| 18:22.24 | nodiscc | when you select "no root access" from the installer it gives the first normal user sudo access |
| 18:23.03 | nodiscc | i want this even with "allow root access" checked |
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| 18:45.37 | axc1298 | does ZFS being accepted into debian mean that the debian 9 installer will have ZFS as a filesystem option along with the current ones? |
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| 18:47.52 | TomTomTosch | it's not in main. so probably not. |
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| 18:48.44 | axc1298 | too bad |
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| 18:48.59 | TomTomTosch | such is life. |
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| 18:50.19 | axc1298 | so that means in order to use it with debian, you have to install it with ext4 and then somehow convert to zfs later? how would that work? |
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| 18:51.52 | mazert | hello, i'm trying to use audio call function with empathy and xmpp, but it doesn't works. How I can fix it ? |
| 18:52.11 | mazert | on unstable |
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| 18:52.24 | TomTomTosch | !debian-next |
| 18:52.25 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:53.22 | mazert | TomTomTosch: ok thanks :) |
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| 19:08.08 | Rotonen | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801464 <- systemd question, redis changes just landed in jessie-backports - how do i connect to a local redis over a unix domain socket with the new .service file (private tmp enabled, private devices enabled) in place? |
| 19:08.09 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/801464 in redis-server (closed): «redis-server: Socket placed at /tmp/systemd-private-$ subfolder»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-10-10; last modified: 2015-11-08. |
| 19:09.04 | tugrik | Morning. An actual problem "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: files list file for package 'xml-core' is missing final newline" ; is that worth reporting, or is that likely to be fixed by the time I've figured out how to report it? |
| 19:10.00 | mtn | tugrik: which version of debian? |
| 19:11.30 | tugrik | jessie |
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| 19:12.38 | tugrik | "cat /etc/debian_version" - 8.3 |
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| 19:19.26 | jmcnaught | Rotonen: that bug says it was fixed by moving the socket location from /tmp/redis.sock to /var/run/redis/redis.sock |
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| 19:23.11 | merethan | Hi all |
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| 19:24.56 | merethan | I have this really stupid problem acessing menu's in sound juicer. Gnome3/gtk3 has disabled it's menu's to make it look fancy and touch friendly etc. but now I have zero ways of changing options. |
| 19:25.06 | merethan | *accessing |
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| 19:25.34 | merethan | Someone just happens to know how to fix this? |
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| 19:26.42 | merethan | Sound juicer even has entries in the manual for say the preferences window, there's just no way to access it without the menu's. |
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| 19:28.44 | merethan | oops, wrong key :P Anyway, back |
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| 19:29.39 | jmcnaught | merethan: newer gnome applications have a menu in the top-left, beside the "activities", is this the menu you need? |
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| 19:33.35 | merethan | God dmanit |
| 19:33.53 | merethan | jmcnaught, yes, exactly what i needed. |
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| 19:35.00 | jmcnaught | merethan: there is where gnome programs are now supposed to be program-wide menu items (as opposed to document/file specific menu items) |
| 19:35.12 | jmcnaught | non-gnome programs will just have "quit" there |
| 19:35.26 | merethan | jmcnaught, this is one of those design choices why I found the apple DE to suck so much; option menu's for a program not being on the window belonging to the program. |
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| 19:37.46 | jmcnaught | merethan: super+F10 to open that menu by the way. GNOME has a bunch written on their design goals if you want to read up on them: https://wiki.gnome.org/Design |
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| 19:45.50 | merethan | Tnx for help jmcnaught |
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| 19:54.31 | deetwelve | hello, i have a little problem with ufw. systemctl status ufw is giving me this error: http://pastebin.com/W60bzQtN anyone have any ideas? |
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| 19:58.07 | mtn | deetwelve: obvious question: does the file exist? |
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| 19:58.20 | deetwelve | nope |
| 19:58.40 | markybob | that's not a kernel i've ever seen in debian |
| 19:58.46 | mtn | deetwelve: heh. there is your answer |
| 19:58.57 | deetwelve | its an OVH debian install |
| 19:59.30 | markybob | so you made your own kernel? |
| 19:59.36 | deetwelve | no |
| 19:59.46 | deetwelve | that was installed straight from them |
| 20:00.03 | markybob | shrug |
| 20:00.06 | frikinz | your modprobe is probably broken then. Try replacing modprobes with insmod ? |
| 20:00.42 | frikinz | unless the server can't even load modules.. |
| 20:00.42 | markybob | how would that matter if the file doesn't exist? |
| 20:01.18 | deetwelve | i didnt touch any of that, just installed debian from their list of distros and then just apt-get install ufw |
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| 20:02.55 | markybob | you give them money, right? contact their support :P |
| 20:03.34 | deetwelve | well yeah but everyone knows how horrible their support it, thats why im here. |
| 20:03.43 | mtn | heh |
| 20:03.45 | deetwelve | is* |
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| 20:04.52 | TomTomTosch | grsecurity kernels have some weird restrictions. everything i know does not apply to your grs kernel. |
| 20:10.22 | jmcnaught | ,i linux-image-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64 |
| 20:10.23 | judd | No package named 'linux-image-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64' was found in jessie/amd64. |
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| 20:12.01 | jmcnaught | ,i linux-image-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64 --release jessie-backports |
| 20:12.02 | judd | Package linux-image-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64 (kernel, optional) in jessie-backports/amd64: Linux 4.4 for 64-bit PCs, Grsecurity protection. Version: 4.4.8-1+grsec201604252206+1~bpo8+1; Size: 34572.7k; Installed: 163064k; Homepage: https://www.kernel.org/ |
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| 20:13.13 | jmcnaught | deetwelve: grsecurity kernels are available in backports and maybe will be available in stretch, but most people here are probably unfamiliar with them. your best bet is 1) OVH support and/or 2) read up on gresecurity to understand the differences |
| 20:13.28 | devster31 | hi guys, any god tutorial to assign a cgroup to sshd so that even under load it doesn't become unresponsive? |
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| 20:14.55 | deetwelve | jmcnaught: looks like they have an option to install debians distribution kernel. i might just reinstall since i just started the server. i guess its their custom kernel from what i am reading. |
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| 20:36.04 | PadawanLearner | may the source be with you |
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| 20:45.30 | El_Barto | I am trying to connect to my Cisco router with a db25-serial cable and minicom. I have minocom set to 9600 8N1 hardware flow control yes, software flow control no on /dev/ttyS0, but it shows offline and it doesn't show any output from the Cisco. I used the same settings in windows and was abel to verify the router is fine. How can I get minicom to go online? |
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| 20:45.57 | PadawanLearner | hi El_Barto |
| 20:46.23 | PadawanLearner | well, in my humble experience minicom is usualy set up to use modems and AT init commands |
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| 20:48.28 | PadawanLearner | have you tryed putty? |
| 20:49.00 | teraflops | PadawanLearner: in my humble experience minicom is the best sw you can use for connecting to cisco via rs232 |
| 20:49.24 | tugrik | El_Barto "screen" is another option for connecting over a serial port |
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| 20:51.25 | kion | Where can I see the source code for /usr/bin/sha384sum program, it's part of the core utils of Debian |
| 20:51.47 | El_Barto | PadawanLearner: yes in windows, I want to do this through the cli. |
| 20:51.57 | El_Barto | tugrik: I'll try that. |
| 20:52.16 | markybob | kion: so apt-get source coreutils |
| 20:52.33 | kion | thanks marko__ |
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| 20:54.14 | zoomgry | if i have a 2tb drive in a laptop and install / on it without creating separate partitions for debian files and for /home, is that going to create performance issues? |
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| 20:54.37 | donofrio | El barto, is the cable a correctly wired cable for this use? or did you just grab a cable and try? |
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| 20:54.54 | teraflops | zoomgry: why? |
| 20:55.01 | kion | markybob, what will that command do, where will the source be placed? |
| 20:55.15 | markybob | kion: in the dir you run it in |
| 20:55.46 | El_Barto | donofrio: I bought the cable off amazon, it worked in windows with putty. |
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| 20:55.55 | kion | markybob, oh Great! and no other place touched, Can I just rm that directory when finished or do I need a apt-get purge command? |
| 20:56.15 | markybob | kion: you just rm it |
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| 20:58.18 | jmcnaught | kion: also in case it's not clear, you don't need to be root to run "apt-get source ..." |
| 20:58.54 | kion | thanks jmcnaught , I didn't know that |
| 20:59.03 | El_Barto | screen isnât working, any other suggestion on programs to make a serial connection? |
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| 20:59.23 | a1p | El_Barto: minicom |
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| 20:59.31 | zoomgry | teraflops: it may take longer to retrieve files on a 2tb partition than on a 100GB one? |
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| 20:59.42 | cmhobbs | +1 on minicom |
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| 21:00.08 | El_Barto | a1p: thatâs what I originally tried, it says ttyS0 is offline. |
| 21:00.09 | zoomgry | i'm also trying to fix the fact that when i press the power button, debian does nothing. it's supposed to shut down as i already said in kde settings, but it does nothing. |
| 21:00.43 | a1p | El_Barto: what dmesg says? |
| 21:01.01 | jmcnaught | zoomgry: take a look at /etc/systemd/logind.conf for the power button |
| 21:01.07 | a1p | i mean when u connect your device |
| 21:01.27 | El_Barto | If I paste three lines in here is that a flood? |
| 21:01.55 | markybob | yes. use paste.debian.net |
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| 21:02.35 | zoomgry | thanks jmcnaught. :-) i'll be back if it does not work. |
| 21:02.39 | El_Barto | http://paste.debian.net/685895/ |
| 21:02.49 | teraflops | zoomgry: retrieve files? |
| 21:02.53 | teraflops | :S |
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| 21:03.46 | a1p | El_Barto: why grep tty? just disconnect/connect ur serial device and paste relevant lines. |
| 21:03.55 | El_Barto | Ok. |
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| 21:04.17 | a1p | i had an issue with usb, it was using much power, so device can't start, minicom & screen wasn't working 2 |
| 21:04.59 | El_Barto | a1p: nothing showed up in dmesg when I disconnected the db9 and then reconnected it. |
| 21:05.14 | zoomgry | it seems to also do nothing when i press kde button > leave > shutdown. but only under one user. under another it works ok. i checked, both users are in sudo and netdev groups (+ the not working one is in a bunch of other groups). what can i do about it? |
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| 21:05.51 | El_Barto | I donât know if this has anything to do with it, but this is on a box that runs mythtv. It uses the serial port for lirc. The ir adapter has been disconnected, lirc has been removed, and it hs been rebooted. |
| 21:05.53 | tensorpudding | If I have an AMD APU and a discrete card, how do I tell my system to display graphics through the former and not the latter? |
| 21:06.38 | a1p | El_Barto: seems it works another way, my experience ends here |
| 21:06.55 | El_Barto | a1p: thanks for trying. |
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| 21:16.45 | Rene | jmcnaught: are you here? |
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| 21:18.06 | jmcnaught | Rene: yes how are you. if you have a question you can always ask the channel, lots of people here :) |
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| 21:21.02 | Rene | jmcnaught: Hi! You helped me a lot with soring out the sources of installed packages :-) |
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| 21:23.12 | Rene | hold on a sec.. have to check a thingn first.. |
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| 21:26.17 | Rene | i used this script: https://gitweb.noreply.org/tools/weaselutils.git/tree/apt-listrepository, and there it shows eg what's installed from squeeze etc, but then there is loads of rows like this: |
| 21:26.24 | Rene | php5 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 21:26.52 | Rene | that does not tell from which repo it comes.. |
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| 21:27.08 | Rene | is there some other way to extract the original repo? |
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| 21:28.43 | jmcnaught | Rene: does this list correspond to the packages listed by "aptitude search ~o" ? |
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| 21:29.51 | Rene | yep, it looks so |
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| 21:30.22 | jmcnaught | Rene: this script is basically just running "apt-cache policy" on every single installed package and extracting some info. What does "apt-cache policy php5" say? (assuming that's one that doesn't show a repo) |
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| 21:32.35 | iKarith | Personally I think LCD connector would've been more useful to me than a camera connector, but I suspect people will enjoy the camera more. |
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| 21:32.54 | iKarith | Especially with the 8MP sensor |
| 21:33.41 | Rene | jmcnaught: actually the php5 was a wrong example. Running apt-cache policy zaptel-source gives me Installed: 1:1.4.11~dfsg-3 |
| 21:34.50 | TomTomTosch | that's from lenny :3 |
| 21:35.01 | TomTomTosch | ,v zaptel-source |
| 21:35.02 | judd | No package named 'zaptel-source' was found in amd64. |
| 21:35.41 | Rene | i run still i686 |
| 21:36.07 | TomTomTosch | doesn't matter, it builds on all arches. |
| 21:36.23 | jmcnaught | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/zaptel removed in 2010 it seems |
| 21:36.25 | Rene | TomTomTosch: so the dfsg is lenny-repo? |
| 21:37.04 | Rene | jmcnaught: so i assume that it's ok to just remove those packages? |
| 21:37.41 | jmcnaught | Rene: you will need to remove them, but you may also need to figure out what packages replace their functionality |
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| 21:38.22 | jmcnaught | Rene: for this in particular it seems there is an upgrade path: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=553083 |
| 21:38.23 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/553083 in ftp.debian.org (closed, moreinfo): «RM: zaptel -- ROM; Replaced by dahdi-linux/dahdi-tools»; severity: normal; opened: 2009-10-29; last modified: 2010-01-29. |
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| 21:39.40 | jmcnaught | Rene: also dfsg stand for Debian Free Software Guidelines, in a version string it means that Debian has patched the software (or removed some stuff) to make it compliant with the DFSG |
| 21:41.21 | Rene | jmcnaught: is there btw a script that could make life easier when upgrading? Eg find which package should be installed instead of an old package? |
| 21:43.10 | jmcnaught | Rene: not that i know of, but in each release notes there is a section of the upgrade instructions "preparing for the next release". Here is the one for squeeze->wheezy: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#for-next |
| 21:43.27 | Rene | heh.. i found old packages from Sarge ⦠|
| 21:45.39 | jmcnaught | Rene: sounds like you might have skipped those steps a few times :) |
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| 21:45.54 | Rene | jep! :-) |
| 21:46.19 | Rene | time to check those pacakges.. |
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| 22:16.00 | markybob | can't believe i just now learned about add-firmware-to. such a handy script for when netinst isn't an option |
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| 22:22.35 | checkfx | hello |
| 22:23.02 | checkfx | is there some dev in the room ... i want a report a bug or vulnaribility ! |
| 22:23.18 | PadawanLearner | checkfx: reportbug |
| 22:23.26 | checkfx | debian 8 cinnamon 64 ...tested on another pc from a friend and its doing it to |
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| 22:28.30 | checkfx | it's not possible just to report this to a OP here .... ? |
| 22:29.09 | checkfx | i dont even know if it's a bug or if it's dev like it is ! |
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| 22:31.17 | jak2000 | hi all |
| 22:31.34 | jak2000 | how to use QUOTA on home dirs? 40gb for user1 and 60gb for user2? how to do? |
| 22:31.59 | markybob | checkfx: no it's not possible. you need to use proper channels |
| 22:32.40 | checkfx | ah ok ... there a chan for bugreport ? |
| 22:32.57 | markybob | checkfx: no |
| 22:33.02 | jak2000 | marcozink any advice thanks |
| 22:33.18 | markybob | checkfx: use reportbug program as you were told |
| 22:33.26 | unborn | guys anyone knows how to create torrent files? I do it in transmission torrent created added but not seeding it out on lan.. any ideas? |
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| 22:34.19 | unborn | eh there is a channel for that :) |
| 22:34.53 | checkfx | markybob: ... it's just that im not sure it's realy a bug and i wanan confirm before sending an idiot thing ! lol |
| 22:35.17 | checkfx | if it's realy * |
| 22:36.36 | checkfx | you are using debian 8 markybob ? |
| 22:37.00 | markybob | checkfx: usually. at at this exact moment on this machine |
| 22:37.03 | markybob | not* at |
| 22:37.06 | checkfx | is i tell you in private what i mean can you plz tell me if it's needed to be reported |
| 22:37.19 | checkfx | ok |
| 22:37.37 | markybob | why don't you just paste it to the channel? a thousand eyes are better than two |
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| 22:38.08 | checkfx | ok |
| 22:38.24 | checkfx | on sudo apt-get update as exemple ... |
| 22:38.54 | checkfx | after it's asking for the password right and we dont see it when we type it ... right ? |
| 22:39.28 | checkfx | if i press enter ... the cursor go under it ... and if you type the password ! it will be see ! |
| 22:39.50 | checkfx | i made a friend test that on his debian 8 and he to get the same thing |
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| 22:40.11 | markybob | you mean after you press enter and fail three times? |
| 22:40.15 | checkfx | after typing it ... the apt-get update do it's thing normaly |
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| 22:40.22 | checkfx | nop |
| 22:40.42 | markybob | i've never seen what you're talking about |
| 22:40.59 | checkfx | at the first time .. you dont type anything ... just press enter en THEN type the pass ... you will be able to see what youre typing |
| 22:41.30 | markybob | i wouldn't even bother with a bug report. if it happened on jessie to a lot of people i'd be fixed instantly. something's goofy with you |
| 22:41.48 | markybob | oh. heh |
| 22:41.57 | markybob | i understand what you're saying now |
| 22:42.00 | markybob | no, not a bug |
| 22:42.02 | checkfx | :) |
| 22:42.04 | checkfx | cool |
| 22:42.12 | checkfx | ok it's normal ? |
| 22:42.15 | markybob | yes |
| 22:42.25 | checkfx | well ...it's unsecure no ? |
| 22:42.40 | checkfx | anybody can see you type your pass that way ! |
| 22:42.47 | markybob | no. we expect people who have root/sudo access to know how to do things. |
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| 22:43.31 | checkfx | ok if it's not a bug ... you see ... i will not look like an imbecile reporting this HAHAHAHA |
| 22:43.38 | checkfx | ty markybob ! |
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| 22:45.12 | checkfx | i will tcheck on my laptop with kali v2 if it's doing it to ! |
| 22:45.14 | checkfx | ^^ |
| 22:48.49 | checkfx | yep same thing ! |
| 22:49.07 | checkfx | ok so ! ty for the info markybob ! see ya |
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| 22:52.42 | jak2000 | how to use QUOTA on home dirs? 40gb for user1 and 60gb for user2? how to do? |
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| 22:54.09 | markybob | jak2000: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_quota#To_one_or_several_users |
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| 22:57.12 | jak2000 | markybob |
| 22:57.16 | jak2000 | thx |
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| 23:48.36 | DammitJim | this is the dumbest question for the day... I transfer the pictures I take with my camera to my web server |
| 23:48.59 | DammitJim | I would like to set up something where when I transfer the pictures, the system automatically creates the thumbnails |
| 23:49.10 | DammitJim | I was thinking about using inotify... is there something else I should consider? |
| 23:50.23 | markybob | DammitJim: is instant really necessary? i'd probably do a simple cronjob that runs every minute |
| 23:52.49 | abrotman | would use inotify :) |
| 23:53.08 | markybob | was trying to keep it simple |
| 23:53.25 | jmcnaught | DammitJim: or if you are using some sort of CMS or gallery software it could generate thumbnails for you. |
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