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| 00:13.01 | pflanze | Does anyone know whether with DKIM, you should set up a new key for each from domain, or just one key for the reverse DNS of the sending server? |
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| 00:22.37 | rjsalts | pflanze: DKIM is per message |
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| 00:23.47 | pflanze | rjsalts, what I mean, the key pair, not signatures. |
| 00:24.12 | pflanze | Do you use a different key pair depending on the domain of the from address, or just helo name or reverse dns? |
| 00:24.17 | rjsalts | pflanze: there is a header in each message giving the selector and domain which can be arbitrary. |
| 00:24.41 | pflanze | I kinda know. I'm currently using one key pair for all of my domains. |
| 00:25.08 | pflanze | But I'm afraid that this is the wrong way to do it, and might be the reason why I'm not getting good delivery. |
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| 00:28.59 | rjsalts | pflanze: it shouldn't matter. I'd imagine that some mail asps do the same thing where their customers have outsourced things such as newsletters and promotional email |
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| 00:30.58 | rjsalts | pflanze: but it's pretty hard to tell as email recipients usually don't share their heuristics and they're in a state of constant change as they adapt to the spam they're receiving |
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| 00:32.38 | ryouma | ok, i am in a native environment now, so i can communicate better. i got up on debian by trying all the kernels. i got in with sysvinit 3.16 kernel, and then i did ^D to continue after an error. the proximal problem was that there was a bad superblock error for /dev/mapper/big. another problem is that i kept getting usb disconnect spam on the terminal periodically. |
| 00:32.44 | ryouma | the worst problem is that with all of these kernels, the text is much, much, much too small for me to read it. so i literally have to guess what i am typing. my monitor cannot be put into a different resolution from hardware. i do not know how to do so from the linux command line. |
| 00:35.05 | ryouma | markybob, i ran lsb_release -a (on my current tenuous setup) (if that is what you wanted) and it gave the information one would expect it to give. i.e. i am running an up to date jessie. Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) no lsb modules available, whatever that means. |
| 00:35.56 | rjsalts | pflanze: so I guess what I'm saying is, experiment, see if changing domain/selector in your DKIM signing makes a difference for various recipients |
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| 00:37.37 | pflanze | I wonder how to do that well. I've been creating new gmail accounts for that purpose, but am afraid some of google's algorithms will have detected that it's me, and think I must be a spammer, and since they know the domains are from me, too (hosted with them), |
| 00:37.47 | pflanze | that might even explain why I've got a hard time delivering mail. |
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| 00:38.30 | pflanze | And asking the same real people each time is useless since at some point google doesn't deliver to spam for them anymore. |
| 00:38.44 | pflanze | Just for people I haven't sent mail to previously. |
| 00:38.54 | ryouma | |_[O_O]_|: what i'm getting is "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/big, missing codepage or helper program, or other error" when i try to map /dev/mapper/big to /media/big. |
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| 00:41.02 | rjsalts | ryouma: have you tried mount -t fstype? |
| 00:44.32 | ryouma | rjsalts: yes, it gives the same error |
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| 00:44.54 | ryouma | smartctl does not indicate any changes from its last invocation |
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| 00:46.05 | francium_ | I got an ssd (never had one before), and was wondering if samsung 850 120GB ssds have issues with linux and the TRIM option? |
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| 00:50.04 | markybob | francium_: there was an issue. what you need to do is use the kernel from jessie-backports as soon as you install |
| 00:50.40 | ryouma | so is it a coincidence that i did the update grub and update-initramfs? is it just a corrupted filesystem? |
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| 00:51.29 | francium_ | markybob: Im coming from archlinux, can you tell me which version(s) are affected and which are good for use? |
| 00:52.04 | francium_ | Also what is the issue exactly? just TRIM? |
| 00:52.07 | markybob | francium_: basically anything in the 4 family is fine. jessie has 3.16. jessie-backports has 4.5 |
| 00:52.14 | markybob | francium_: yes, just trim |
| 00:52.49 | markybob | francium_: backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 00:53.26 | francium_ | markybob: 4x kernel's have no issue's at all? And I am able to safely use 'discard' option? |
| 00:53.40 | markybob | francium_: i'm not aware of any issue |
| 00:53.45 | francium_ | First ssd, so just wanna be sure about this stuff |
| 00:54.04 | francium_ | do you own a ssd or specifically a samsung ssd? |
| 00:54.13 | markybob | francium_: i do. not samsung |
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| 00:56.27 | francium_ | markybob: with the 3.x kernel, ssd would be fine as long as I dont use TRIM option? |
| 00:57.19 | zykotick9 | ahhh. /me is using 3.16 with ssd and trim (and encrypted lvm)... what is the issue? |
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| 00:58.43 | zykotick9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.14 | francium_ | zykotick9: I just got an samsung 850 ssd and want to know if there are issues with using it and or using the TRIM option |
| 00:59.45 | francium_ | zykotick9: What do you mean 15.2Gib trimmed? New to this stuff, so don't know what the exactly means |
| 01:00.24 | zykotick9 | francium_: do you mean adding trim to fstab? <- that's not such a great idea... using fstrim on a regular basis (i don't) is better... |
| 01:00.50 | ryouma | are there tools to investigate the bad superblock error? should i try testdisk? |
| 01:00.51 | francium_ | zykotick9: I think the fstab option is 'discard' |
| 01:00.56 | zykotick9 | francium_: fyi, what i ran to get the above output was "fstrim -v /" as root |
| 01:01.16 | zykotick9 | francium_: ya, discard in fstab isn't the greatest idea i hear... ymmv? |
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| 01:02.05 | francium_ | markybob suggested using backport kernel (4x) which doesn't have issue |
| 01:02.28 | zykotick9 | francium_: and that _might_ be a good idea? i don't know what the issue is!! |
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| 01:03.08 | francium_ | this is what i was reading, https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization#WARNING |
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| 01:03.57 | francium_ | zykotick9: I also talked to a guy on #archlinux, who has 840 and 850 drives and said he uses 'discard' option in fstab |
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| 01:04.13 | markybob | francium_: that's my understanding. sorry i went out for a smoke |
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| 01:05.21 | francium_ | What exacty is TRIM and waht does it do? I tried searching, but I'd love to hear it explained by one of you |
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| 01:06.15 | markybob | francium_: "A Trim command (known as TRIM in the ATA command set, and UNMAP in the SCSI command set) allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive (SSD) which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally." |
| 01:06.47 | francium_ | so it wipes blocks that have deleted files? |
| 01:06.49 | zykotick9 | francium_: gotta say, this is all "news" to me... but i DO believe both the debian wiki & what markybob is telling you. i've never run into issue myself - but if wiki+markybob are in aggrement, you'd better listen ;) best of luck. |
| 01:07.15 | francium_ | zykotick9: about the 4.x kernel? |
| 01:07.24 | zykotick9 | dunno, never run it myself... |
| 01:07.44 | francium_ | zykotick9: you just run fstrim from terminal manually right? |
| 01:08.01 | francium_ | or what do you do? Not use trim at all? |
| 01:08.04 | zykotick9 | correct. /me would suggest a cron job perhaps... |
| 01:08.04 | markybob | francium_: if you want to use trim and insure no issues use jessie-backports and from what i read you'll be fine |
| 01:08.45 | zykotick9 | francium_: seriously, personally i'd be listening to markybob's advice on this! |
| 01:09.02 | francium_ | zykotick9: Ofcourse, just wanna hear your expeirnce also |
| 01:10.04 | zykotick9 | i've never had issue. and personally i think using discard in fstab can actually lead to slowdown issue... but i'm NOT an expert at all. |
| 01:10.08 | ryouma | is this issue only relevant to samsung? |
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| 01:10.33 | markybob | ryouma: that particular drive was known to have serious issues |
| 01:10.40 | rdplnt | Hi. Any anonymous free vpn servers without registering an account? |
| 01:10.41 | francium_ | debian wiki's link to kernel code shows a few other disks as well |
| 01:11.17 | zykotick9 | francium_: NOTE, i'm NOT using the same model(s) as you. |
| 01:11.36 | francium_ | zykotick9: which are you using anyway? |
| 01:13.19 | francium_ | one last thing, what about disk encryption? Haven't done that before, any guide on how to get started? I don't think I need an LVM, just disk encryption |
| 01:13.22 | zykotick9 | francium_: i have a couple ssds (all small 128 or less) - this one is... OK, how to i get my HD info?!?!? |
| 01:13.38 | francium_ | "smartctl -a" |
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| 01:14.41 | markybob | francium_: if you've never done it before just let the debian installer do it for you |
| 01:14.45 | shadows | be *careful* with smartctl |
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| 01:15.18 | shadows | zykotick9: if you run a Gnome desktop environment, there's a user interface "Gnome Disks" |
| 01:15.37 | zykotick9 | francium_: "apt install smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sda" ;) = ADATA SX900 |
| 01:15.39 | shadows | francium_: I ran encryption on a few machines, not currently though, what's the goal? |
| 01:15.51 | zykotick9 | shadows: i'm not ;) |
| 01:16.27 | francium_ | markybob: let the debian installer do disk encryption? Where exaclty is that option? |
| 01:16.44 | markybob | francium_: it'll prompt you. you can't miss it |
| 01:16.48 | zykotick9 | uses netinst's encrypted/lvm on his SSD drives! |
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| 01:17.09 | shadows | zykotick9: okay what is being said would be helpful but please read the manual page, there are smartctl options that can intiate a low-level wipe of your data, and it's not difficult to imagine typing the wrong thing by mistake to get that started |
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| 01:18.04 | zykotick9 | shadows: i wasn't the one suggesting it ;) i was the poor user using it... but it did show me my HD manufacturer in this case |
| 01:18.08 | francium_ | markybob: let say something goes wrong, i need to backup that disk via a usb adapter or soemthing, what is the process of decrpyting the disk when i mount it on another linux machine? |
| 01:18.56 | markybob | francium_: you use a live cd to mount it and decrypt it. but don't every let yourself get to that point. backup *before* it fails. hourly even |
| 01:19.10 | markybob | ever* |
| 01:19.57 | francium_ | markybob: I mean, what is the command for decrypting? Have never done any disk encrypting at all, that's why i ask |
| 01:20.26 | markybob | francium_: you'd use cryptsetup |
| 01:20.35 | zykotick9 | francium_: sidenote, decrypting is actually easy "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/foo NAME-foo" but mounting the LVM stuff i always have to look up online ;) |
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| 01:20.59 | shadows | francium_: those are user interfaces which wrap kernel interfaces |
| 01:21.54 | shadows | francium_: long story is the kernel does this all through dmsetup (dm-N devices) and luks encryption is one of those modules for that interface |
| 01:22.00 | francium_ | Just wanna thank you both for helping me out. One last thing, is there is difference between different ecryption method? I know there is truecrypt and dm-crypt |
| 01:22.19 | shadows | truecrypt is not in the linux kernel upstream so far as I am aware |
| 01:22.31 | shadows | dm-crypt is the underlying thing that cryptsetup activates |
| 01:22.35 | markybob | francium_: don't touch truecrypt. it's done and fucked |
| 01:23.25 | jmcnaught | cryptsetup can be used to open truecrypt volumes actually |
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| 01:24.06 | markybob | still not something you want to put you eggs in |
| 01:24.11 | francium_ | so default debian encryption is the type of encyption you hear about the fuzz trying to break into and failing on the news? Not imply anything just wanna, know it's not something you break easily |
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| 01:24.27 | markybob | francium_: right |
| 01:24.30 | jmcnaught | no but handy to know if you need to use one. |
| 01:24.51 | markybob | i mean who knows what the NSA can do...but aside from that... |
| 01:25.14 | francium_ | well i dont consider my self on any significant radar |
| 01:26.20 | francium_ | What about this one story I read, parts of the disk aren't encrpyted and can be used to bypass the entire encryption and extract keys or something |
| 01:26.25 | jmcnaught | disk encryption still helps protect your data if the computer is stolen |
| 01:26.37 | ryouma | what is the right tool to examine a corrupted filesystem? debugfs says bad magic number. |
| 01:26.43 | markybob | francium_: swap and /boot arent encrypted by default |
| 01:26.58 | shadows | francium_: put another way, it's also easily identifiable as having been an encrypted volume. If someone comes looking, there's a LUKS signature |
| 01:27.25 | ryouma | do i have to just restore from backup? or can i fix the magic number? |
| 01:27.26 | francium_ | is that an issue people need to look out for? |
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| 01:27.43 | markybob | francium_: if you have something really secret in swap you could get fucked. but if you're not doing anything super secret you're fine |
| 01:27.54 | shadows | francium_: depending on local laws, ie. it can really cause problems at the border between nations |
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| 01:28.15 | francium_ | a reboot should clean out swap though right? |
| 01:28.27 | markybob | francium_: correct |
| 01:28.28 | themill | isn't swap-inside-lvm-inside-luks what the installer tries to do? |
| 01:28.36 | markybob | francium_: may be recovered though |
| 01:28.45 | shadows | themill: suspend won't work like that |
| 01:28.46 | francium_ | again this is just randomly question asking, not really relevent |
| 01:28.51 | themill | shadows: does here |
| 01:28.53 | markybob | themill: did that change? |
| 01:28.56 | shadows | really? |
| 01:29.10 | themill | markybob: dunno, it's so long since I did this installation... but I don't recall doing anything special |
| 01:29.19 | shadows | I must have missed some kind of magic voodoo to fix the logical flaw in that process since I last looked into it 10 years ago :/ |
| 01:29.44 | francium_ | markybob and zykotick9 thanks again |
| 01:29.58 | shadows | themill: suspend to ram? suspend to disk? does it ask for password on resume? |
| 01:30.01 | themill | shadows: you unlock the luks partition in initramfs; /boot is outside the enrypted container |
| 01:30.07 | themill | shadows: both; yes. |
| 01:30.35 | shadows | good report, thanks |
| 01:30.40 | themill | (it doesn't ask for a luks passphrase on suspend to ram, only for suspend to disk) |
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| 01:31.35 | themill | having the data encrypted is a sufficiently standard corporate policy these days it's no longer a sign of having something to hide |
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| 02:10.29 | smev | anyone still using the abaca email filter ? |
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| 02:14.43 | christian_ | hello |
| 02:14.53 | markybob | smev: isn't that a hardware filter? |
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| 02:16.48 | markybob | smev: yeah. since you give them money contact them if you need support. offtopic here. |
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| 02:29.30 | smev | markybob: yea, they also made a debian vmware version. They don't support it anymore unfortunately, having a heck of a time trying to track it down |
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| 02:34.22 | markybob | smev: i'm sure you understand why we can't support that. it's not an ideological thing |
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| 02:38.33 | smev | markybob: I understand your point. I was just hoping someone might have a copy. Not really looking for support |
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| 02:42.57 | shadows | vmware version how? |
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| 02:43.12 | shadows | as in a pre-made image of debian that runs as a guest? |
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| 02:45.49 | smev | shadows: correct |
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| 02:48.08 | tekv | Hi, using debian with gnome 3.18. I cannot stop the on-screen keyboard from popping up on a laptop. Have set the "Screen Keyboard" to OFF in the dropdown menu in the menu bar |
| 02:49.34 | tekv | The on-screen keyboard is also disabled in in Univeral Access settings. |
| 02:50.09 | tekv | ...but still pops up every time the screen is touched. |
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| 02:52.51 | markybob | tekv: how do you have that? jessie has 3.14. sid has 3.20 |
| 02:53.03 | markybob | tekv: i doubt you're using debian |
| 02:53.13 | tekv | using stretch |
| 02:53.25 | markybob | tekv: you're in the wrong place. read /topic |
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| 02:54.12 | markybob | people that expect testing to work ...seriously. wtf. |
| 02:54.32 | markybob | at least read the /topic |
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| 02:56.17 | jawsh | Hello |
| 02:56.24 | dvs | there's a topic? |
| 02:56.39 | markybob | not that anyone reads |
| 02:57.01 | markybob | goes for a smoke |
| 02:57.11 | jawsh | I have a problem with performing a netinstall. Is this a place I can ask for help? |
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| 02:58.57 | tekv | Testing has always been very reliable for me; hardware not supported by stable. Have asked question in gnome irc; will see if anyone in debian-next has fix for issue. |
| 03:00.13 | dvs | tekv, but testing will break once in a while |
| 03:00.19 | dvs | jawsh, ask away |
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| 03:01.37 | jawsh | Thanks. I've got a Broadcom BCM43142 WiFi chip which I can't seem to get working. None of the drivers I've found online have been accepted by the installer. |
| 03:01.50 | dvs | !firmware iso |
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| 03:01.50 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 03:02.35 | jawsh | Oh, that sounds handy. |
| 03:02.39 | jawsh | Thanks |
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| 03:04.43 | dvs | no prob |
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| 03:25.21 | rjsalts | does anyone know of a wiki which has an email gateway, i.e. you can create/edit a page by sending an email message to the wiki email address |
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| 03:40.06 | rjsalts | the answer is moinmoin |
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| 04:05.36 | eberdich | My backlight seems to turn off after resuming from suspend. I've tried updating drivers and getting firmware-linux-nonfree but nothing works. Can anyone help? |
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| 04:06.29 | JZA | hi I want to setup a new vhost but I am having issues understanding how my server know how to route the traffict to the other site. |
| 04:07.57 | JZA | I followed Digital ocean vhost manual, it tells me to edit the /etc/apache/sites-available/default, clone it and edit the variables for ServerAlias, ServerAdmin and ServerName... also edit the Document Root and the Directory, finally point my domain to the IP of the box. |
| 04:08.42 | JZA | but right now, everything is still going to default and I am not sure how the server is aware that is coming from a different domain. |
| 04:08.42 | JZA | Do I need to edit the port? or what? |
| 04:08.42 | JZA | or /etc/hosts |
| 04:09.48 | Rusty1_ | try also #httpd if nobody here can help |
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| 04:10.08 | jmcnaught | JZA: did you enable the site with the a2ensite command? |
| 04:10.21 | JZA | yes |
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| 04:11.01 | JZA | jmcnaught: I mean it could work after all this DNS might be updating, I am just not sure how will the server make the connection |
| 04:11.27 | JZA | does httpd 'knows' if the traffic came from domain1.com or domain2.com? |
| 04:11.43 | jmcnaught | JZA: apache will server that virtualhost for any requests that come in for that ServerName (or matches to ServerAlias) |
| 04:11.49 | jmcnaught | yes |
| 04:11.55 | JZA | oh ok |
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| 05:36.55 | Tsutsukakushi | which package in debian hurd was updated that now requires all this junk http://ix.io/FWz ? |
| 05:36.58 | Tsutsukakushi | :/ |
| 05:37.15 | slima | Hi, I have a problem. I need bind9 with dlz-mysql, so I get source via apt, in debian/rules I'm added option, but when I do dpkg-buildpackage it's fail because of 'mysql.h: No such file' mysql.h is in /usr/include/mysql/ How can I add this path to dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 05:37.29 | nix1947 | My keyboard and mouse aand all other USB device are not recognized, I am only able to login SSH, I think the prblem is with my udev, and I am running Jessie, |
| 05:37.37 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: as questions go, that's about as vague as you can get |
| 05:37.42 | nix1947 | How to fix the USB devices problem |
| 05:37.57 | Tsutsukakushi | themill: what extra info do you want |
| 05:38.05 | nix1947 | so, these are all the logs that I have pasted |
| 05:38.06 | nix1947 | https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxadmin/comments/4k0skr/keyboard_mouse_not_detected_in_debian_8/ |
| 05:38.15 | Tsutsukakushi | that's on a base install with no de |
| 05:38.18 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: what release? what command does that come from? |
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| 05:38.27 | Tsutsukakushi | apt upgrade |
| 05:38.30 | apt | Upgrading is easy! Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn. |
| 05:38.31 | Tsutsukakushi | sid |
| 05:38.38 | themill | full command and full output would be a good start |
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| 05:40.25 | nix1947 | Hello everyone, How to fix the USB problem, that is not recognized in my debian |
| 05:41.38 | Tsutsukakushi | themill: http://ix.io/G8f |
| 05:42.24 | nix1947 | Tsutsukakushi: Do you know how to downgrade udev in debian 8 |
| 05:43.03 | Tsutsukakushi | is that relevant to my question? |
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| 05:47.00 | anes | Dear Friends, I need to create system image iso ... remastersys not working fine .. Any other tool in debian? |
| 05:47.35 | cynicallemon | refracta snapshot |
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| 05:47.58 | cynicallemon | and installer |
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| 05:48.50 | zjk | Hi, can I ask ubuntu questions here? I'm trying to understand the output of aptitude why and why-not |
| 05:49.19 | zjk | I also posted my question here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/774513/what-does-the-aptitude-why-and-why-not-mean ] |
| 05:49.34 | cynicallemon | zjk ask on #ubuntu |
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| 05:49.55 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: definitely -- nothing in the list of upgraded packages jumps out at me, but your answer is in there. |
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| 05:52.22 | Tsutsukakushi | themill: nothing should jump out since i installed the os and chose the no-de option |
| 05:52.31 | Tsutsukakushi | so there should be nothing there that requires X11 |
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| 05:52.49 | themill | there's no X11 there |
| 05:53.09 | Tsutsukakushi | well |
| 05:53.16 | cynicallemon | Tsutsukakushi, maybe gcc? |
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| 05:53.18 | Tsutsukakushi | x11-utils, x11-bunchofstuff |
| 05:53.20 | anes | cynicallemon: which source can use : /testing/refractainstaller-gui_9.1.8_all.deb is it enough from sourceforge? |
| 05:53.35 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: which is hundreds of MB different to X11 |
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| 05:53.59 | Tsutsukakushi | this is hundreds of MB different from not having all this junk |
| 05:54.19 | cynicallemon | Tsutsukakushi, is that install in a vm like virtualbox? |
| 05:54.26 | Tsutsukakushi | no |
| 05:54.33 | Tsutsukakushi | it's on real hardware |
| 05:55.28 | themill | the size will be mostly from texlive not a couple of x11 libraries |
| 05:55.47 | cynicallemon | anes, just use the latest available snapshot and installer debs |
| 05:56.01 | Tsutsukakushi | what requires that? |
| 05:56.07 | Tsutsukakushi | that didn't previously require it |
| 05:56.29 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: that's actually easier for you to work out than me because you've got the system in front of you |
| 05:56.44 | Tsutsukakushi | what command tells me that then? |
| 05:56.47 | cynicallemon | anes, if youre happy on the commandline then no need for gui addons |
| 05:57.33 | Tsutsukakushi | some package managers tell straight away what has added a new dependency |
| 05:57.33 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: "aptitude upgrade -W -D" will likely be informative |
| 05:58.21 | Tsutsukakushi | k |
| 06:00.03 | Tsutsukakushi | seems like its most, if not all for texinfo :/ |
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| 06:01.03 | anes | cynicallemon: then please give the command to install same? |
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| 06:01.04 | themill | texinfo Depends: tex-common (>= 6) |
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| 06:02.33 | themill | ahh no, Recommends: texlive-fonts-recommended |
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| 06:03.05 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: you can try preventing the upgrade from installing recommended packages (-R with aptitude) |
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| 06:06.06 | Tsutsukakushi | thanks |
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| 06:07.22 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: did that solve it? |
| 06:07.32 | Tsutsukakushi | yeah |
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| 06:10.03 | anes | cynicallemon: I got command 'refractainstaller' on terminal .. I need to create only snapshot |
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| 06:12.30 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: excellent. Can you please report a bug against texinfo pointing out that the Recommends has unwanted consequences (given texinfo is Priority: standard) and that suggesting that it be downgraded to a Suggests? |
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| 06:12.51 | Tsutsukakushi | ok |
| 06:13.10 | Tsutsukakushi | does thje bug tracker require me to register? |
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| 06:22.26 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: no, just send the properly formatted email; the reportbug package can do that for you |
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| 06:35.54 | anes | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.42 | cynicallemon | anes, not working how? |
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| 06:36.50 | anes | i am using version 9.3.33 |
| 06:37.18 | anes | cynicallemon: when select GUI not show any thing? |
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| 06:37.35 | cynicallemon | anes, just use the terminal |
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| 06:38.01 | cynicallemon | as root, refractasnapshot |
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| 06:38.17 | cynicallemon | then follow instructions |
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| 06:49.48 | anes | cynicallemon: Created iso with name : snapshot-20160519_1216.iso but it have 31.5 MB |
| 06:50.09 | anes | cynicallemon: why this small file ?? |
| 06:50.23 | cynicallemon | not sure |
| 06:51.12 | anes | i think its not working properly right? |
| 06:51.21 | cynicallemon | try again and make sure about the answers you give to the questions |
| 06:51.33 | cynicallemon | 31.5 is way too small |
| 06:51.44 | anes | cynicallemon: any other tool which work in Debian Jessie? |
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| 06:53.00 | cynicallemon | anes, if it doesn't work i would install an different/older version of the snapshot |
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| 06:55.12 | anes | that refractsnapshot old version right? |
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| 06:56.19 | cynicallemon | 9.3.33 isn't on their download page at sourceforge, you might be using a beta or sid/testing version |
| 06:56.45 | cynicallemon | https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/ |
| 06:57.20 | cynicallemon | 9.2.22 is the latest stable |
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| 08:01.44 | no_gravity | I am downloading 1G to my mp3 player via USB and it says it will takt 50m. Ok. But why is my internet now slow too? |
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| 08:09.56 | kripx | check you bandwidth no_gravity |
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| 08:11.34 | no_gravity | It's fast on my other computers. Only the one that fills my MP3 player is slow. |
| 08:11.50 | no_gravity | That's what I find strange. |
| 08:12.40 | no_gravity | Why does the USB transfer clog up the wifi? |
| 08:12.46 | ChrisH | no_gravity: check load via uptime. I assume it's high |
| 08:13.06 | no_gravity | ChrisH: it's 1,93 1,52 1,23 |
| 08:13.19 | no_gravity | Not much. I have 8 Cores. |
| 08:13.47 | ChrisH | no_gravity: I had strange bahaviour with USB and filetransfers |
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| 08:36.27 | anes | how to add preseed when creating iso using refractasnapshot? |
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| 08:37.12 | anes | I created iso using refractasnapshot, but I don't know how to edit it? |
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| 08:40.24 | Iridos | what's refractasnapshot? |
| 08:41.07 | FinalX | this, I guess, http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ |
| 08:41.38 | Iridos | can't be, he wouldn't ask about that in #debian |
| 08:41.52 | Iridos | dpkg, refracta |
| 08:41.53 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Iridos |
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| 08:50.21 | Iridos | dpkg, refracta is <reply> Refracta (http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/) is a distribution/live CD with focus on home desktop use. It is <based on debian>, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help at http://refracta.freeforums.org/ |
| 08:50.21 | dpkg | Iridos: okay |
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| 09:01.18 | Sakami | Hi. How to install cross toolchains in debian jessie? |
| 09:01.40 | Sakami | I tried adding emdebian repos, but their signing key is invalid |
| 09:01.50 | Sakami | accroding to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=796331 |
| 09:01.51 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/796331 in emdebian-archive-keyring (open): «emdebian-archive-keyring: The following signatures were invalid: REVKEYSIG B5B7720097BB3B58»; severity: grave; opened: 2015-08-21; last modified: 2015-10-01. |
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| 09:18.20 | Voyager82 | Hello. I hope this is the proper channel to ask. I currently have installed on my PC Debian Jessie. I'm trying to install aMule, but aMule is not present in the Jessie repos. I've read, in the internet, that other people had the same problem. What do you think is the best (and painless) solution? :) Thank you in advance. |
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| 09:24.32 | fireba11 | Voyager82: technically you're wrong here since the outermost boundary for debian is what is included in the debian repository :-D |
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| 09:26.23 | Voyager82 | fireba11, yes. The point is that aMule "was" in the repos, and it seems that "still is" in the repos, at least in the "sid" distro. :) My question was if upgrading to "sid" (unstable) is the only solution. |
| 09:27.34 | bazhang | ,v amule |
| 09:27.35 | judd | Package: amule on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.2.6+debian0-8; wheezy: 2.3.1-9; jessie-multimedia: 2.3.1+git1a369e47-dmo4bp1; sid: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2; stretch: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2 |
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| 09:27.58 | eject_ck | Hi all |
| 09:28.00 | eject_ck | On high-loaded servers I'm using bond-ed interface with 2x 1Gbe slave interfaces, want to get 2Gbe for both inbound and outbound traffic. I do have VLAN interface which is using bond0 - "vlan-raw-device bond0". On switch (Cisco 2960) I have portchannel with active mode configured. I'm using bond-mode 802.3ad, bond-lacp-rate 1 and bond-xmit-hash-policy encap3+4 (also tried with bond-xmit-hash-policy layer3+4) and running iperf |
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| 09:28.25 | bazhang | ##networking eject_ck |
| 09:28.36 | Voyager82 | What is Jessie-multimedia? |
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| 09:29.28 | bazhang | did you mean whats in it? |
| 09:29.52 | themill | Voyager82: deb-multimedia.org (not recommended; the bot carries the data so we can debug the problems it causes) |
| 09:30.55 | jelly | eject_ck: you'll never get full 2Gpbs with a single tcp connection, have to use multiple connections |
| 09:31.09 | rook2pawn | xset s off; xset q; still shows prefer blanking: yes timeout: 0, additionally DPMS Standby:600 |
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| 09:31.29 | Voyager82 | What is the most "painless" solution to solve the problem? I've read that some people, modified their "sources.list" files, just to install aMule from "sid", and that put it back to normal. Some other people directly installed "aMule" from the ".deb" files. |
| 09:31.39 | rook2pawn | is there a way to just stop the DPMS stuff. i thought xset s off should deal with it all ? |
| 09:32.22 | fireba11 | Voyager82: you can check if it's in backports |
| 09:32.51 | Voyager82 | fireba11, I should look for backports. |
| 09:32.52 | eject_ck | jelly: I do have both multiple tcp sessions for outbound traffic (-P5 and using client connection to two different ports on server(s)). |
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| 09:33.47 | eject_ck | On client host I can confirm I can "generate" 2 Gb of traffic (outbound) which is balanced on both interfaces, but not on "iperf server" where it comes over single NIC. |
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| 09:34.59 | Voyager82 | fireba11, however it seems it's in "stretch", but I don't want to upgrade my distro yet. I'm still looking for the least "painful" solution, at the present moment. :) |
| 09:35.13 | jelly | eject_ck: can you confirm with "cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0" your intended settings are active? |
| 09:35.49 | jelly | on the linux side |
| 09:35.56 | eject_ck | yes |
| 09:36.11 | eject_ck | it's there in pastebin https://0bin.link/paste/NKgc61+L#2cpHWSf4+BMqn0UCJ9wftiD5laxPgcs2Sts5C5NZqRg |
| 09:36.40 | eject_ck | I posted config from two hosts (actually I have 4 with same configuration) |
| 09:36.56 | eject_ck | Only suspicious I have is that i'm using VLAN on top of bond0 |
| 09:37.20 | eject_ck | that's why I have Transmit Hash Policy: encap3+4 (4) |
| 09:37.25 | eject_ck | make sense for me |
| 09:37.31 | Voyager82 | If I install aMule from the "deb" file, should I expect any problem with dependencies? |
| 09:37.32 | eject_ck | also tried with layer3+4 |
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| 09:41.08 | jelly | eject_ck: we used xmit_hash_policy 1 (layer3+4) and a bunch of vlans in a trunk on top of bond and it worked |
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| 09:42.10 | jelly | as in it got 2 phys. ifaces on a server filled with traffic from multiple clients |
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| 09:45.15 | eject_ck | jelly: I tried, got same results |
| 09:45.18 | eject_ck | will try again |
| 09:45.34 | eject_ck | btw, what switches you are using :? |
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| 09:48.30 | eject_ck | are you getting 2Gb for both rx and tx ? |
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| 09:50.47 | Voyager82 | Hi. I couldn't find any backport for installing "aMule" on Debian Jessie. I could try to install it from "Wheezy", "Stretch" or "Sid", but I'm a little afraid of the dependencies. Do you have any suggestion? |
| 09:51.08 | bigstylee | hi. i am trying to get svn1.7 on jessie and google isn't being my friend today. is anyone able to point me in the right direction please? |
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| 10:14.59 | Walex | bigstylee: 'apt-cache policy subversion' |
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| 10:16.40 | Walex | Voyager82: you can download source package and recompile, a local backport, e.g. with https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
| 10:16.49 | bigstylee | if i am to understand the output correctly, it looks like ubuntu jessie doesn't support 1.7 |
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| 10:18.29 | Walex | bigstylee: that would be surprising |
| 10:18.52 | Walex | bigstylee: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/subversion seems to claim it does, and 'apt-cache policy' should agree with that. |
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| 10:21.57 | Voyager82 | Walex, should I expect any problems with dependencies? I've read that some other people encountered some, when they did something like that. |
| 10:22.29 | bigstylee | forgive me, all abit new to me. but i am looking at "subversion (1.8.10-6+deb8u4)" which i interupt as svn1.8 and i am after 1.7? dont see any references to 1.7 on that page or 'apt-cache policy' |
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| 10:23.57 | jelly | ,v subversion |
| 10:23.58 | judd | Package: subversion on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.6.12dfsg-7; squeeze-security: 1.6.12dfsg-7; squeeze-security-lts: 1.6.12dfsg-7+deb6u3; wheezy: 1.6.17dfsg-4+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 1.6.17dfsg-4+deb7u11; wheezy-backports: 1.8.10-6+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.10-6+deb8u3; jessie-security: 1.8.10-6+deb8u4; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.8.10-6+deb8u4; sid: 1.9.4-1; stretch: 1.9.4-1 |
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| 10:24.57 | jelly | bigstylee: there is no 1.7 in a debian release apparently |
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| 10:26.34 | jelly | bigstylee: if you need it you'll have to build it yourself |
| 10:26.39 | bigstylee | i found some instructions for getting 1.7 on Wheezy which invovled added new apt sources. |
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| 10:27.04 | bigstylee | i will find another work around. ty for the help. |
| 10:27.21 | jelly | bigstylee: what makes 1.8 from jessie unsuitable for your needs anyway? |
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| 10:28.11 | bigstylee | my colleagues are still using 1.7 |
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| 10:28.54 | bigstylee | we dont do local development, so we need to be in sync on svn version |
| 10:29.12 | Voyager82 | Walex, I'll read carefully what you suggested. It seems to be able to solve the problem. Thank you. |
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| 10:29.57 | jelly | bigstylee: if a version was at any point present in debian, you can find it on snapshot.debian.org |
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| 10:31.42 | jelly | not sure why it matters what version you use locally, as long as the repo you all commit to is some older version, but okay |
| 10:33.51 | bigstylee | i am abit of a n00b and use tortoiseSVN for my commits. i have setup a local environment for a new project as a bit of a test. tis alright though, i can commit on the command line when working locally and use tortoiseSVN for the other projects. |
| 10:34.41 | bigstylee | we use samba for other projects and the format the of the .svn folder changes from 1.7 to 1.8 |
| 10:35.45 | themill | sharing a checkout always seems attractive but never works well |
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| 10:36.46 | bigstylee | we rarely are working on the same project at the same time, so its not too much of an issue for us. |
| 10:37.57 | bigstylee | but there is some real benefit to working locally by removing the network traffic delay in terms of commits and IDE. so something i am trying to champion. |
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| 10:39.20 | themill | There's plenty of build systems and IDEs that can't cope with the source on something like samba too |
| 10:40.08 | TomTomTosch | sounds like the decentralized nature of git would be more suited for you. |
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| 10:44.16 | bigstylee | aslong as you map the network drive, PHPStorm (our IDE of choice) works pretty well |
| 10:44.19 | bigstylee | yeh, git i think would be a positive move too. small steps atm! |
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| 10:46.39 | Voyager82 | Can I follow this procedure to install aMule? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#backport Can I substitute the deb-src of "Sid" with the one of "Stretch"? |
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| 10:48.13 | TomTomTosch | ,checkbackport amule |
| 10:48.26 | TomTomTosch | hmpf |
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| 10:49.40 | judd | Backporting package amule in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 10:50.11 | TomTomTosch | ha! Voyager82 ^ |
| 10:50.29 | TomTomTosch | ,v amule |
| 10:50.30 | judd | Package: amule on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.2.6+debian0-8; wheezy: 2.3.1-9; jessie-multimedia: 2.3.1+git1a369e47-dmo4bp1; sid: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2; stretch: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2 |
| 10:50.36 | Voyager82 | Can I backport from "stretch"? |
| 10:50.52 | TomTomTosch | Voyager82: they have the same version so it doesn't matter. |
| 10:52.07 | Voyager82 | TomTomTosch, if I backport from "Sid", is there the "risk" that I install some Sid "libraries" that conflict with other "Jessie" package. In understand that I'll remove the "Sid" deb-src line, after installing aMule. |
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| 10:52.40 | TomTomTosch | Voyager82: no, it will pull the source for only that package and install all deps from jessie. |
| 10:53.27 | Voyager82 | Ok. And then I'll remove the Sid deb-src line from sources.list. |
| 10:53.49 | willemb | i have unallocated space in a logical volume group. the lvm was built on top of a 2 disk raid 1 setup. Is it possible to reduce the pv, then the partition? |
| 10:53.49 | TomTomTosch | if you wish, it doesn't hurt. |
| 10:53.57 | willemb | or, where else should I ask about this? |
| 10:54.13 | mRokita_ | How can i edit /etc/pam.d/su to make user a su without password to user b only if user a is connected through ssh? |
| 10:54.16 | Voyager82 | TomTomTosch, doesn't it, when I go "apt-get upgrade"? |
| 10:54.37 | TomTomTosch | Voyager82: not the deb-src line. |
| 10:55.35 | Voyager82 | Ok. Too bad they erased it from Jessie, though. :) |
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| 10:58.01 | TomTomTosch | Voyager82: yeah, it was removed from testing on 18 Jul 2014, so it didn't make it into jessie. i guess they didn't fix the bugs in time. |
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| 11:01.38 | Voyager82 | I've always asked myself what will happens when they run out of character's names from Toy Story. :) |
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| 11:21.38 | fireba11 | Voyager82: this sbould take at least 20 more years ... |
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| 11:38.34 | G66K | hello everyone, i was wondering if there any package that allows you to extract files using right-click |
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| 11:46.27 | musca | G66K: plenty ... |
| 11:46.50 | musca | which desktop and which filemanager do you use? |
| 11:49.06 | musca | ,info file-roller |
| 11:49.07 | judd | Package file-roller (gnome, optional) in jessie/amd64: archive manager for GNOME. Version: 3.14.1-1; Size: 1065.6k; Installed: 7556k; Homepage: http://fileroller.sourceforge.net/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/file-roller |
| 11:49.31 | G66K | musca Gnome |
| 11:49.51 | G66K | well i just install file-roller thanks though |
| 11:50.49 | musca | G66K: it integrates with nautilus (aka "files") |
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| 12:05.09 | hmpf | Hello! |
| 12:05.53 | hmpf | I'm wokring on a ALSA driver for a custom codec device. Could I ask something about that here, or can you point me to a better channel for that? |
| 12:06.10 | jelly | /msg alis list *alsa* |
| 12:06.22 | hmpf | k, thx |
| 12:06.49 | jelly | or dunno, #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net ? |
| 12:07.06 | jelly | there is a ##kernel here on freenode, too |
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| 12:39.40 | _mel_ | hello. i have a xen guest without access to the console output. can i redirect messages for the console, like starting and stopping services to syslog? |
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| 12:41.51 | kripx | maybe |
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| 12:45.34 | _mel_ | a remove syslog server is configured. but i don't get service messages like [ OK ] and so on. so i don't know exactly where it hangs |
| 12:46.03 | _mel_ | can i make sure to reboot the server after some countdown / watchdog? |
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| 12:49.35 | FriendsNone | what packages should i install to have audio? |
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| 12:50.32 | Voyager82 | Is it normal that it takes some time, when I execute "apt-get -b source PACKAGE_NAME"? |
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| 12:52.16 | FriendsNone | what packages should i install to have audio? |
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| 12:54.20 | blind | dpkg: tell FriendsNone about alsa checklist |
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| 12:55.35 | Voyager82 | FriendsNone, try to open the mixer to see if the volume is ok. |
| 12:56.28 | FriendsNone | its a fresh install and i dont have alsa installed |
| 12:57.08 | FriendsNone | thats why i'm asking what packages should i get/install |
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| 12:58.01 | Voyager82 | FriendsNone, most distro, as far as I know, install Alsa automatically. I feel to suggest you to check everything first, before you attempot to (probably) re-install Alsa. |
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| 12:59.39 | Voyager82 | FriendsNone, open the mixer. There must be one available even in the GUI environment. |
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| 13:02.54 | Voyager82 | Try the following gommand, as root: "alsactl init". However, read the following page for further details: https://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ. Most ordinary installation with GUI environment should install sound too. |
| 13:03.02 | Voyager82 | FriendsNone. |
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| 13:11.17 | Sakami | How can I use the emdebian toolchain in debian jessie? |
| 13:11.27 | Sakami | As I add their repo I got 'W: GPG error: http://www.emdebian.org jessie InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: REVKEYSIG B5B7720097BB3B58 Emdebian Archive Signing Key' |
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| 13:21.26 | Sakami | I've updated emdebian-archive-keyring 2.0.5 from sid repo and it still wont work. |
| 13:21.46 | centrx | Ah thatâs what I was just going to recommend |
| 13:22.11 | centrx | Sakami You tried the one for jessie already? |
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| 13:23.12 | Iridos | Sakami, emdebian has been discontinued since June 2014... |
| 13:23.20 | themill | REVKEYSIG means the signature is by a revoked key, no amount of updating will change that |
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| 13:23.53 | Sakami | Iridos: emdebian-archive-keyring for debian jessie is 2.0.4 |
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| 13:24.29 | Sakami | Iridos: So is there a way I can get a useable armel cross toolchain on debian jessie? |
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| 13:25.34 | FriendsNone | I solved my own problem |
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| 13:27.01 | Iridos | Sakami, good question... did you look at the wiki at https://wiki.debian.org/CrossCompiling (it's a wiki and I haven't read that any time recently... don't know in what shape the pages on this are) |
| 13:27.33 | Iridos | well, and https://wiki.debian.org/MultiarchCrossToolchainBuild |
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| 13:32.26 | Sakami | Iridos: Thanks. It seems that they all refer to https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains for pre-built cross-toolchains. |
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| 13:33.18 | Avernos_ | hi |
| 13:33.18 | Avernos_ | followed this doc however nothing changes when i do hostname -f |
| 13:33.18 | Avernos_ | https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
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| 13:35.48 | Iridos | Avernos_, what are you trying to do |
| 13:36.27 | Iridos | and there is not a single time the string "hostname -f" in that wiki page |
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| 13:38.43 | Avernos_ | Iridos, just want to change the hostname. however, at any reboot it resets or reverts |
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| 13:39.40 | Avernos_ | net config is on static, so doubt dhcp is setting this up |
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| 13:46.34 | Avernos_ | Iridos, if it helps, the file is on read only.. |
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| 13:59.44 | DammitJim | I have a simple issue... not sure if it is Debian related, though |
| 13:59.51 | DammitJim | we have a test and prod environment |
| 14:00.08 | DammitJim | emails get sent out from some applications |
| 14:00.24 | DammitJim | while in test, we don't want emails to go to the customer, but in prod we obviously do |
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| 14:01.05 | DammitJim | I had put an exim server up that only forwards emails to our real email server if the domain matches our domain |
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| 14:01.19 | DammitJim | well, the developers made a mistake and they left that server configured but for prod |
| 14:01.31 | DammitJim | is there a better solution I should have provided? |
| 14:02.47 | module000 | DammitJim: run 2 instances of your MTA, with one of them listening on 127.0.0.X, and the other listening on 127.0.0.Y. use /etc/hosts to direct your equivalent of "mailhost.yourdomain.foo" to 127.0.0.X or Y respectively. The "test" instance should blackhole mail or be configured to do something else besides relaying it |
| 14:02.59 | module000 | DammitJim: there are a limitless amount of solutions to the problem you described, that's just 1 of them. |
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| 14:03.37 | module000 | you could also use procmail to inspect the mail, determine if it's 'test' or not, and relay or blackhole it accordingly |
| 14:03.56 | DammitJim | my boss is asking to set up an entry in the hosts file of the test servers to point the "production" email server name to the IP of the "test" email server |
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| 14:04.25 | module000 | DammitJim: sounds like your boss has a good idea of a quick solution to this. that's why he's the boss :) |
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| 14:05.28 | DammitJim | module000, then what's my problem? I hate making manual entries in the host files |
| 14:05.28 | DammitJim | it doesn't scale (according to what my tiny brain thinks) |
| 14:06.36 | module000 | DammitJim: well, think of a scalable version of the first suggestion. What is your /etc/hosts file designed to do? and is there another system that *would* scale to multiple hosts? (hint: dns) |
| 14:06.55 | DammitJim | I was thinking more along the lines of... |
| 14:07.05 | module000 | DammitJim: then you have an even simpler solution, your test hosts use the test DNS server, which makes sure mail.myorg.com doesn't aim where you don't want it to |
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| 14:07.37 | module000 | procmail is probably your "best" solution though, use it on your MTA. then it can intelligently discard messages from the test hosts |
| 14:07.48 | DammitJim | could I configure exim on this "test" server in such a way that I can differentiate between test and prod servers |
| 14:08.00 | DammitJim | then at least it is all in one place and the developers don't have to change their code |
| 14:08.18 | DammitJim | oh gosh, I think our MTA is Lotus Mail |
| 14:08.29 | module000 | DammitJim: maybe, I don't know enough about configuring exim to tell you if it can use those types of rules. I would use procmail, which will work independently of your MTA |
| 14:08.43 | DammitJim | oh ok |
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| 14:08.53 | DammitJim | thanks! we are officially off topic now |
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| 14:10.51 | eluus | I have installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree but opera doesn't have flash |
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| 14:13.14 | jelly | eluus: where did you get an opera from, and is it 32bit or 64bit opera? |
| 14:13.30 | lillyhammer | eluus: either its disabled in settings or else opera dont support flash |
| 14:13.43 | lillyhammer | i dont use it so not too sure |
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| 14:18.49 | sumi | hello |
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| 14:22.51 | eluus | jelly: from opera.com, it's 64 bit |
| 14:23.09 | eluus | lillyhammer: it's not visible on opera://plugins |
| 14:23.28 | eluus | after installing pepperflash it became enabled in chromium |
| 14:24.03 | scream | it probably has a different plugin path than debian default |
| 14:24.23 | scream | it will probably be somewhere under /opt with the rest of opera |
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| 14:25.11 | scream | you'll have to either copy the plugin or symlink the whole directory |
| 14:25.28 | scream | with symlink you get package updates ;) |
| 14:25.39 | eluus | on ubuntu it's at usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/ |
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| 14:25.51 | eluus | I'll make the same dir |
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| 14:26.22 | scream | there should be a way to see the plugin path somewhere in the opera:// pages |
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| 14:27.18 | jelly | eluus: then it ought to work, if opera can find it |
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| 14:30.09 | acu | does anyone have suggestion for desktop application to write technical documentation /howtos (where you can add pictures too ?) - of course I know about LibreOffice writer (which is somehow to stuffy) and lyx (which makes tough to copy paste code from it)... |
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| 14:30.41 | zuzzas_ | LIBREOFFICE, FREEDOM, FREEDOM!!! |
| 14:30.47 | lord_rob | LaTeX |
| 14:31.18 | lord_rob | ---> kile |
| 14:31.22 | acu | Lyx is built on top of latex - but never use latex on its own |
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| 14:32.11 | SagelessFox2 | zuzzas_: freedom is nothing |
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| 14:32.30 | fernie | web browser and google docs |
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| 14:32.46 | SagelessFox2 | There may be a backdoor in your bios,your hdd and even in your router kernels zuzzas_ |
| 14:33.24 | lord_rob | not with libreoffice SagelessFox2 |
| 14:33.32 | lord_rob | ^^ |
| 14:33.42 | SagelessFox2 | XD |
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| 14:34.05 | zuzzas_ | Libre Office is pure, untainted freedom |
| 14:34.16 | zuzzas_ | It's in its name, it's in its soul. |
| 14:34.39 | nkuttler | acu: i'd go with LaTeX |
| 14:34.39 | lord_rob | but still, pure latex rules |
| 14:34.48 | nkuttler | it's what i use, actually |
| 14:35.05 | lord_rob | nkuttler: agreed |
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| 14:35.21 | scream | latex + macros for repetetive stuff ;) |
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| 14:35.51 | scream | i used dia + eps export for diagrams |
| 14:36.03 | nkuttler | yeah, dia is nice for diagrams |
| 14:36.14 | scream | pictures were mostly SVGs either drawn with inkscape or from wikipedia |
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| 14:36.36 | lord_rob | LO draw is nice too |
| 14:36.55 | eluus | k guys, now it works after I copy the plugin into the same folder chrome uses in ubuntu |
| 14:36.56 | scream | spell checking was done with vim |
| 14:36.57 | nkuttler | i use dia for blueprints, and graphs with real data are created programmatically |
| 14:37.21 | scream | graphviz is cool for a lot of generated stuff :D |
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| 14:37.43 | scream | gnuplot for graphs. polar plot support was very intuitive |
| 14:38.17 | varesa | How do I define a static domain with IP from DHCP on (raspbian) Jessie? |
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| 14:38.26 | lord_rob | gnuplot rulez that's what I use also |
| 14:38.33 | themill | (anything but gnuplot, please) |
| 14:38.40 | SagelessFox2 | People in ligo use python for graph ^ ^ |
| 14:38.51 | nkuttler | varesa: #raspbian |
| 14:39.04 | varesa | nkuttler, didn't know that exists. thanks |
| 14:39.05 | scream | as long as it gets the job done. ;) |
| 14:39.20 | varesa | is networking different in raspbian jessie than debian jessie btw? |
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| 14:39.44 | nkuttler | varesa: probably not, but how should we know? |
| 14:39.58 | varesa | nkuttler, fair enough |
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| 14:43.32 | varesa | took me a while to realize why I couldn't join #raspbian... "freenode: You have joined too many channels" |
| 14:43.34 | varesa | lol |
| 14:43.43 | SagelessFox2 | I love gnu much, is there any problem for me to register the domain "gnu.tw' ? |
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| 14:44.25 | nkuttler | varesa: waaat. how many are you in? |
| 14:44.37 | nkuttler | SagelessFox2: ask the fsf? |
| 14:44.43 | SagelessFox2 | I will not publish any information as a staff that work for gnu |
| 14:44.48 | SagelessFox2 | fsf? |
| 14:45.09 | SagelessFox2 | works* |
| 14:45.59 | varesa | nkuttler, this many: http://paste.debian.net/687317/ |
| 14:46.05 | varesa | (120) |
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| 14:46.28 | nkuttler | varesa: interesting |
| 14:46.42 | varesa | SagelessFox2, free software foundation |
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| 15:00.55 | acu | varesa: your question - as I understood it, has nothing to do with debian, but is a basic networking question - solutions is simple - assign an IP (static) that is not covered on your DHCP scope (so if your router gives out ips from 100 to 255 then you assign a static IP 99 to your machine) there are routers who can "reserve" a dhcp given address to a single machine (based on MAC address - will always give that machine same IP - so at |
| 15:00.55 | acu | the linux machine you can have dhcp, but the router will always give the same IP - again, this is a networking setup |
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| 15:01.39 | varesa | acu, no I want to get an IP from dhcp (different wifis, 3g, etc.) |
| 15:01.58 | varesa | but for puppet certificates to work I need to have a fixed fqdn (hostname.domain) |
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| 15:04.31 | acu | it is still a basic networking question - but you should describe more clearly what you want, all your computers are on LAN ? usually you setup in hosts |
| 15:04.35 | acu | /etc/hosts |
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| 15:04.43 | acu | !hosts |
| 15:04.44 | dpkg | /etc/hosts is a static lookup table for hostnames. "man 5 hosts" for more information and example content. To change your system's hostname, ask me about <hostname>. |
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| 15:05.50 | acu | if you setup your dhcp to always give you the same IP address - you can add that IP address there - but again, I am not clear about your setup, so the answer is not posbile |
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| 15:07.00 | FinalX | varesa: in puppet you can force what hostname to send to the server, what to identify as, you should use that |
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| 15:07.06 | FinalX | in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf |
| 15:07.57 | varesa | acu, the issue is there are multiple routers/DHCP servers from time to time and I don't control all of them |
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| 15:08.19 | varesa | so it has to be done clientside |
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| 15:08.53 | varesa | FinalX, I'll look into that |
| 15:09.05 | FinalX | varesa: I use that for my puppet nodes with dynamic IP's, works great :) |
| 15:10.00 | varesa | FinalX, It'd still be nice to have device07.myorg as the fqdn but I'll accept a working device07.somedomain too :) |
| 15:11.07 | FinalX | you can still send device07.myorg as hostname to puppet though, to request configuration for that, but yeah, dns-wise... wins perhaps? dnsmasq does something with it iirc, but I haven't looked into any of it tbh |
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| 15:11.26 | varesa | I think I got it... Added 'static domain_name=myorg' to /etc/dhcpcd.conf |
| 15:12.04 | varesa | I tried configuring dhclient but apparently the rpi foundation image uses dhcpcd instead |
| 15:12.07 | FinalX | ah, yeah, or just disable setting hostname altogether and just edit /etc/hostname as well |
| 15:12.24 | FinalX | ah |
| 15:13.14 | varesa | nowhere did I find a list of settings I can use with "static xxx=yyy" but guessed from domain_name_servers |
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| 15:16.13 | varesa | oh wait, now the wrong domain is back :-/ |
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| 15:52.45 | kingkong- | how do i find my full system specs? |
| 15:53.00 | kingkong- | on wheezy |
| 15:54.08 | mtn | kingkong-: lspci -nn is a good place to start |
| 15:55.27 | kingkong- | pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci |
| 15:55.27 | kingkong- | lspci: Cannot find any working access method. |
| 15:55.42 | kingkong- | gives error^ |
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| 15:56.10 | mtn | kingkong-: what kind of system is this? |
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| 15:56.24 | kingkong- | wheezy vps |
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| 15:56.37 | mtn | kingkong-: ok, I know nothing about vps systems |
| 15:57.00 | kingkong- | commands different on vps systems? |
| 15:58.04 | FinalX | depends on the kind of vps, fully virtualized, or not, etc. |
| 16:00.00 | kingkong- | how can i find if fully virtualized or not |
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| 16:54.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | Anyone running debian 8 latest? |
| 16:55.06 | TyrfingMjolnir | Stock |
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| 16:55.21 | TyrfingMjolnir | uname -a please |
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| 17:05.55 | apus | hi, could somebody please tell me if the most recent version of amavisd-new still has de_DE translated templates? at least for freebsd they don't seem to be available and i also can't find anything on the website of amavis |
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| 17:13.55 | TyrfingMjolnir | Mine says 3.16.0 |
| 17:14.31 | TyrfingMjolnir | I am now logged in to the LX zone using zlogin |
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| 17:15.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | But the LX zone can not ping anything outside, or assign an IP address: ifconfig eth0 10.4.2.17 netmask 255.255.252.0 |
| 17:15.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | SIOCSIFADDR: Cannot assign requested address |
| 17:17.47 | tharkun | If this message appears on a terminal "kernel:invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP" What is the machine trying to tell me? |
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| 17:31.23 | wondiws | what is the compose key for the florin sign? |
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| 18:03.46 | xok | hello all... |
| 18:04.03 | xok | I am trying to make my LBP1120 Canon printer work on the Debian jessie... |
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| 18:07.00 | towo` | xok, http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Canon/Canon-LBP-1120 |
| 18:07.28 | r4fbsd | how to fix issues related to mute sound in Debian Jessie ? Tried several things |
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| 18:08.58 | Ticho | ,v claws-mail |
| 18:08.59 | judd | Package: claws-mail on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.7.6-4+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 3.7.6-4+squeeze2; wheezy-security: 3.8.1-2+deb7u1; wheezy: 3.8.1-2+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 3.10.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 3.11.1-3+deb8u1; jessie: 3.11.1-3+deb8u1; sid: 3.13.2-1; stretch: 3.13.2-1 |
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| 18:09.13 | r4fbsd | sorry, wrong channel, it is just for discussion, not support |
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| 18:10.02 | Ticho | yeah, if I remembered the bot name, I'd have asked in privmsg, but since there is very little discussion ongoing at the moment, can I please have a general pardon and move on with my life? |
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| 18:18.10 | unborn | is this official debian channel? |
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| 18:19.14 | TomTomTo1 | it's on irc.oftc.net, but there are mostly the same people. |
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| 18:21.26 | TomTomTosch | well, "official". irc.debian.org links to oftc. it's community driven either way. |
| 18:21.59 | xok | towo`: thanks but that page was of no help... |
| 18:22.11 | xok | neither driver nor instructions worked... |
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| 18:23.32 | lenswipe | hey guys - got a bit of a situation here - wondered if someone could advise |
| 18:23.48 | lenswipe | My graphics are a bit broken because some updates partially installed |
| 18:24.02 | lenswipe | The updates partially installed because a partition ran out of space |
| 18:24.25 | lenswipe | the obvious soultion is to resize the partition |
| 18:24.40 | lenswipe | the only thing is - I wondered if someone could help me figure out: |
| 18:24.48 | lenswipe | 1. What partition I need to resize |
| 18:24.52 | lenswipe | 2. What to resize it to |
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| 18:25.53 | lenswipe | https://gist.github.com/robertmain/9f4e5caddd6c5540ad3c7591a7202e2b |
| 18:26.00 | lenswipe | That's the output of df -hl |
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| 20:30.49 | *** topic/#debian is Debian 8 Jessie released! /msg dpkg jessie ; /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie ; /msg dpkg install jessie | current point releases: /msg dpkg 8.4; /msg dpkg 7.10 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | don't comment on spam in here, move to #debian-offtopic |
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| 20:32.13 | Kiril | hmz |
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| 20:32.25 | Kiril | but after restart still appears... |
| 20:32.27 | Kiril | sad panda |
| 20:32.39 | Kiril | root 789 578 0 23:31 tty7 00:00:00 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -novtswitch -background none -noreset -verbose 3 -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian-gdm-MCtzbT/database -seat seat0 -nolisten tcp vt7 |
| 20:33.24 | greycat | Kiril: systemctl status gdm3 |
| 20:33.32 | greycat | (or gdm3.service) |
| 20:34.17 | Kiril | http://paste.debian.net/687497/ |
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| 20:34.58 | greycat | You're sure you ran "systemctl disable gdm3" as root before rebooting? |
| 20:35.03 | Kiril | of course |
| 20:35.27 | Kiril | http://paste.debian.net/687498/ |
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| 20:36.27 | greycat | Then I don't know why it didn't work. |
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| 20:43.53 | Kiril | yeah it's weird |
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| 20:46.59 | hektabyte | Hey guys, what's the name of the package manager for Debian? I remember that I used something similar to the one Ubuntu has in the previous version. |
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| 20:47.50 | hektabyte | It was a program that you could use for search and installing packages? |
| 20:47.50 | greycat | hektabyte: dpkg is the underlying program, apt-get apt-cache apt aptitude ... are layered on top. |
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| 20:48.24 | hektabyte | greycat: right, but this one had GUI. |
| 20:48.42 | greycat | synaptic? |
| 20:48.46 | greycat | dselect? |
| 20:49.01 | hektabyte | Hmmm, just a moment. Let me check! :D |
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| 20:49.07 | DammitJim | how do I make something not get logged to 2 different log files? |
| 20:49.21 | DammitJim | I have local2 logs sent from a cisco asa |
| 20:49.31 | DammitJim | but the info is also getting logged in /var/log/syslog |
| 20:49.50 | hektabyte | No, it's not synaptic nor dselect. :S |
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| 20:50.38 | axc1298 | so minitube has been broken in debian for a year now. the maintainer doesn't seem to care or he is just too busy. what happens in situations like this? |
| 20:50.43 | hektabyte | Something like this? http://www.linux.org/attachments/usc-png.466/ |
| 20:50.57 | centrx | hektabyte: Ubuntu software-center was removed from Debian |
| 20:51.09 | hektabyte | Ah, that explains it! |
| 20:51.26 | hektabyte | axc1298: fork the project and fix it. |
| 20:52.09 | axc1298 | hektabyte: that's the asshole answer. i wanted the realistic one |
| 20:52.20 | axc1298 | it's already fixed upstream |
| 20:52.30 | hektabyte | axc1298: sorry, was just kidding :D |
| 20:52.43 | TomTomTosch | axc1298: which version is broken? |
| 20:52.54 | axc1298 | TomTomTosch: 2.2 |
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| 20:53.22 | axc1298 | 2.4 works in debian stable. the issue was fixed over a year ago by upstream |
| 20:53.23 | TomTomTosch | ,checkbackport minitube |
| 20:53.24 | judd | Backporting package minitube in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 20:53.34 | TomTomTosch | ,v minitube |
| 20:53.35 | judd | Package: minitube on amd64 -- jessie: 2.2-1; sid: 2.5.2-1; stretch: 2.5.2-1 |
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| 20:53.47 | hektabyte | Package "software-center" has no installation candidate. T.T |
| 20:53.49 | hektabyte | sobs. |
| 20:54.02 | TomTomTosch | axc1298: you can do a ssb if 2.5 works for you. |
| 20:54.19 | axc1298 | TomTomTosch: unfortunately 2.5 won't work in debian stable. it requires qt 5. debian ships qt 4 |
| 20:54.31 | axc1298 | 2.4 is the last fixed version that will work in debian stable |
| 20:55.07 | TomTomTosch | axc1298: the bot says 2.5 builds on jessie and packages.debian.org only lists qt4 as deps. |
| 20:55.18 | TomTomTosch | !tell axc1298 about ssb |
| 20:56.22 | axc1298 | TomTomTosch: ok i'll try 2.5. last time i tried to install it ~6 months ago i couldn't but i got the deb from the developer's website since it wasn't in any debian repo |
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| 20:57.06 | TomTomTosch | axc1298: you shouldn't install from sid. the bot told you how to build it on jessie using sid's source packages. |
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| 20:57.45 | axc1298 | TomTomTosch: alright |
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| 20:58.36 | DammitJim | *.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog |
| 20:58.43 | DammitJim | that line means anything gets logged to syslog? |
| 20:58.59 | greycat | all except auth and authpriv, I believe |
| 20:59.05 | axc1298 | i'm using the 2.4 package i downloaded from the web so it's not urgent for me. i just wanted to point out that the package should probably be in jessie-backports at least since the one in stable is broken almost immediately after debian 8 was released |
| 20:59.10 | DammitJim | oh, all except! |
| 20:59.50 | greycat | The man page is a bit vague, though. |
| 20:59.58 | DammitJim | so, if I don't want anything that is local2, I should do *.*;auth,local2,authpriv.none ? |
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| 21:00.58 | greycat | I'm guessing that's correct. |
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| 21:10.17 | DammitJim | thanks greycat that solved my problem |
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| 21:13.21 | unborn | greycat: Greg can I ask you something unrelated to debian? |
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| 21:17.40 | cluelessperson | Hi all. We have a distributed system of 10,000 hosts |
| 21:17.45 | cluelessperson | We're considering using SSH keys |
| 21:17.57 | cluelessperson | I can't think of any Cons, my boss doesn't like that answer. |
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| 21:18.05 | cluelessperson | Does anyone see any cons with that? |
| 21:18.58 | greycat | What's the alternative? |
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| 21:19.17 | cluelessperson | greycat, the same password across all hosts |
| 21:19.30 | greycat | I think you already know which one is better. |
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| 21:20.27 | cluelessperson | greycat, yes, but I can't just tell my boss. "there are no cons" |
| 21:20.47 | babilen | cluelessperson: You could use a configuration/orchestration system such as saltstack/ansible ... but then you will want a way to login to those boxes still and SSH keys are one way. |
| 21:21.13 | greycat | I'm not sure what arguments we can muster that would sway your boss if he doesn't immediately see why "use expect to script a password login to 10000 hosts all with the same passwd" is bad. |
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| 21:21.25 | unborn | cluelessperson: well, if you setup correctly, then you as root would not need to remember passwords.. even if someone would change password, you will be still able to log in, its faster to work with it also if you going to setup something like automated backups to off site location or another servers this would be very handy. |
| 21:21.40 | babilen | cluelessperson: You should disable *all* password based logins and only rely on keys anyway |
| 21:21.42 | cluelessperson | babilen, ansible isn't a remote management tool, I'm asking why shouldn't a company shift to SSH keys |
| 21:21.44 | cluelessperson | what are the cons? |
| 21:21.56 | cluelessperson | babilen, I know, but I can't just tell my boss "no cons" |
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| 21:22.03 | unborn | last benefit is security.. as babilen noted |
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| 21:23.14 | greycat | OH FUCK YOU USE ANSIBLE |
| 21:23.15 | unborn | cluelessperson: tell him that anyone who have no idea about how it works would be lost or something |
| 21:23.20 | greycat | GAAAAHHHHH |
| 21:23.28 | greycat | no wonder your boss is logic-proof |
| 21:23.34 | cluelessperson | greycat, ? I'm using ansible... |
| 21:23.40 | greycat | cries |
| 21:24.05 | greycat | Every time there's a question in #bash that involves ansible, it ends in tears. |
| 21:24.15 | cluelessperson | greycat, I'm TRYING to shift our business towards security, but just my word isn't trusted. :/ |
| 21:24.16 | babilen | Just use SaltStack? |
| 21:24.22 | babilen | ;) |
| 21:25.20 | cluelessperson | babilen, stop suggesting shit, I'm talking about password versus ssh-key access |
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| 21:26.35 | greycat | But you already know which one to use. |
| 21:26.53 | unborn | cluelessperson: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/33381/ssh-password-vs-key-authentication |
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| 21:27.55 | cluelessperson | greycat, unborn bbabich ME knowing which to use doesn't convince my BOSS |
| 21:28.23 | greycat | So what do you expect us to do? |
| 21:28.46 | unborn | cluelessperson: sure I see now.. is he ict capable? |
| 21:28.54 | babilen | cluelessperson: I already iterated that SSH based access should be key based. This is due to security reasons as many people will just randomly try passwords on your boxes *all the time*. You can circumvent problems simply by disabling password based authentication right away. |
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| 21:29.29 | babilen | This has *nothing* to do with Salt or Ansible and if you can't even spot a joke then .. well .. I can't help you |
| 21:29.31 | unborn | babilen: I think cluelessperson want to hear opposite - why not to use ssh keys |
| 21:29.57 | greycat | I think he wants us to present a white paper that we custom write for his boss to sway his boss's opinion on a subject. |
| 21:30.09 | greycat | Why he thinks we can do that is beyond me. |
| 21:30.21 | babilen | Dealing with the passphrases and managing SSH keys for hundreds / thousands of employees is cumbersome |
| 21:30.38 | NoCode | Hi, running Debian Jessie, trying to enable Modrewrite. restarted apache and it says, "Debian "Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory"" -- What can I do to fix it? I added a <Directory> AllowOverride ALL </Directory> in my /etc/apache2/sites-available/site.conf page. |
| 21:30.46 | babilen | You need to a way to keep authorized_keys in sync with the keys you want to deploy and you are bound to miss sime |
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| 21:31.03 | NoCode | Also "All" |
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| 21:32.00 | babilen | But then .. just hook up the boxes to LDAP |
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| 21:32.28 | babilen | cluelessperson: ^ |
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| 22:01.29 | tharkun | cluelessperson: Just for the sake of clarification. How do you connect now a days to those 10,000 hosts? |
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| 22:01.54 | cplemaster | Hi all, quick question, I would assume someone here has a home file server running Debian? |
| 22:02.16 | tharkun | Yes. |
| 22:02.35 | cplemaster | Just NFS or Samba, doesn't matter. I am curious as to how you personally placed your file server's directories |
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| 22:03.19 | tripout | hmm, have a bad wifi signal with my notebook. just 45-55% and don't recieve any data. but at the same distance, my smartphone is recieving data from the web via wifi. really curious. so i've set up phone as repeater via tethering. |
| 22:03.26 | cplemaster | I am moving to a proper x86 server, coming from an ARM board, and so my OS and file server directories will be on the same drive, so there is no longer an entire partition dedicated to file storage, so I am unsure of where I actually want to put the directory |
| 22:03.40 | cplemaster | Probably irrational but I am uneasy about simply placing it in a home directory |
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| 22:04.33 | cplemaster | Do you think /media/(files) would be a decent place? Again I guess I am just concerned if this is bad practice to do so |
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| 22:05.52 | cplemaster | or maybe possibly in a /mnt/ folder |
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| 22:07.13 | NoCode | How do I move a hidden file? |
| 22:07.20 | NoCode | Files with .whatever |
| 22:07.23 | tharkun | cplemaster: personal taste. whatever lets you sleep at night. |
| 22:07.28 | cplemaster | rm -rf .(file) |
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| 22:07.39 | tharkun | NoCode: mv .file |
| 22:07.43 | frostschutz | NoCode, mv .whatever where/ever? |
| 22:07.45 | cplemaster | oh MOVE |
| 22:07.47 | cplemaster | im sorry |
| 22:07.50 | cplemaster | i read that as "remove" |
| 22:07.53 | cplemaster | D: |
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| 22:08.00 | telecity | D: |
| 22:08.06 | tharkun | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.46 | frostschutz | there is nothing special about hidden files, not showing files that start with . is just a convention |
| 22:08.47 | TomTomTosch | NoCode: most file explorers let you see hidden files if you press ctrl + H |
| 22:08.52 | tharkun | NoCode: and as a rule of thumb do not apply any command on your cli unless you understand what it will do. Take all irc advice with a grain of salt |
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| 22:09.33 | telecity | pebcak |
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| 22:14.06 | NoCode | Thanks. Now it seems if I ls -al there is still 8 files. :| |
| 22:14.24 | NoCode | total 8 |
| 22:15.10 | TomTomTosch | if ls -a doesn't show your hidden file then it's not in the directory you are in. |
| 22:15.52 | cluelessperson | tharkun, Password, one single common |
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| 22:16.22 | NoCode | TomTomTosch, ls -a doesn't show anything no. |
| 22:16.39 | tharkun | cluelessperson: How did you set that up? |
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| 22:19.07 | TomTomTosch | NoCode: then you are in the wrong directory. |
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| 22:22.46 | cluelessperson | tharkun, I didn't, I just work here |
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| 22:34.42 | tharkun | cluelessperson: Asking how it was originally set up can give you a hint on why people are so reluctant to the idea of public/private key pairs. |
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| 22:35.45 | tharkun | As babilen allready suggested there are lots of good stuff that can make the administration of that many servers a breeze, plus you can allow granular access to users to the appropiate servers. |
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| 22:37.01 | tharkun | Remember, keys are not certificates and it is the responsability of each user to guard it. Revoking a single key can be programatically done. |
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| 22:38.14 | tharkun | 10000 hosts with a single password. That is just an insane amount of risk. |
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| 22:48.07 | unborn | sleepy__: I dont think so you can.. there is some intel technology build in - in all models which came out after 2011 I think but that is something completely different and possibly does not meet your needs. you can use chromecast with your monitor or with your tv |
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| 22:49.19 | unborn | sleepy__: if you want you can read about intels sharing screen here: http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-wireless-display.html |
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| 22:54.23 | sleepy__ | I dont get why is is so difficult to find |
| 22:54.29 | sleepy__ | just simple streaming |
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| 23:02.30 | branau | Hi everyone. I'm currently installing Debian on my laptop to replace Windows. The touchpad wasn't working in the graphical installer so I'm giving the text installer a shot. Anyone else run into this kind of issue before? |
| 23:03.55 | vook | yeah, I've had that happen. the TUI install is better anyway in my opinion. |
| 23:04.09 | vook | You probably could've gotten by in the GUI by using tab |
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| 23:06.27 | axc1298 | i usually use a usb mouse |
| 23:06.29 | branau | Yeah, I started to go through it with tab but I got nervous that the touchpad wouldn't work once I had completed the installation |
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| 23:06.54 | jaggz | seriously, someone help me.. I can't create an activity |
| 23:07.00 | jaggz | in kde4 debian jessie |
| 23:07.12 | jaggz | #kde's been unresponsive [in the past when I've asked].. |
| 23:07.40 | jaggz | when I click activities, I see my current Main one, but clicking to create a new one, either blank desktop or from template, .. does nothing at all. |
| 23:07.51 | jaggz | except the menu going away when I click |
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| 23:08.59 | axc1298 | you should see a new activity tab in some corner of your desktop |
| 23:09.42 | axc1298 | you are probably in the new activity but you just think it's your desktop because you haven't customized it at all. |
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| 23:13.32 | jaggz | axc1298, thanks for responding. But when I make a new activity, shouldn't I see it in the activities list? Main is the only one listed there still |
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| 23:14.32 | axc1298 | jaggz: when you right click on the desktop and choose activities, there should be an option on the far right of the little panel that opens which says "create activity" |
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| 23:14.43 | axc1298 | when you create one, it will be listed alongside "Desktop" |
| 23:14.46 | axc1298 | in that same panel |
| 23:15.27 | jaggz | right.. but nothing happens |
| 23:15.33 | jaggz | and nothing new is shown |
| 23:15.45 | axc1298 | you don't see "New Activity"? |
| 23:15.50 | jaggz | nope |
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| 23:16.39 | jaggz | I click my Activity (3 colored dots) -- which pulls up the activity toolbar thingy, which shows the "Main" one (with the Delete trashcan).. |
| 23:17.00 | jaggz | and the +Create activity button (menu).. but none of its options make a new activity |
| 23:17.50 | axc1298 | i don't see any main one with a trashcan, just "New Activity" and "Desktop" and then the create activity button on the far right |
| 23:17.56 | axc1298 | you sure it's plasma 4? |
| 23:18.08 | jaggz | https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=120441 |
| 23:18.12 | jaggz | probably this.. let's see |
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| 23:19.56 | jaggz | I wonder if I should manually install libkactivities-bin, or something else that'll reach it as a dependency |
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| 23:20.57 | jaggz | nothing else seems to depend on it (except its -dbg and -dev).. weird |
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| 23:22.42 | jaggz | axc1298, weird.. okay.. so I installed it then manually ran kactivitymanagerd in a shell .. now it works |
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| 23:23.59 | axc1298 | jaggz: cool |
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| 23:24.06 | jaggz | thanks :) |
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