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| 00:30.58 | jml2 | jrg, maybe you could use a systemd-xmount timeout option with fstab |
| 00:31.06 | jml2 | jrg, there could be a poor connection to that server |
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| 00:37.28 | jrg | jml2: i don't think it's a poor connection |
| 00:37.49 | jrg | and i'm mounting with pam_mount in order to mount user home dir after authenticating against a samba DC |
| 00:38.24 | jrg | i'm just getting strange errors with the rm part.. if i create a file/dir ON the client.. i can manipulate it just fine.. but if it is from another client it just hangs there like it doesn't know what to do |
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| 00:38.34 | jrg | or there is some sort of permissions flag set wrong.. and it only happens in debian heh |
| 00:40.02 | jml2 | you use nfs for homedirs, |
| 00:40.22 | jml2 | dont think you can use smb for homedirs for linux |
| 00:40.43 | TacoGS | Is there a program that that allows me to place a system monitor on another system and remotely record it on this side? |
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| 00:41.26 | jml2 | TacoGS, you can always hide a camera in the computer room and see what the bad boy is up to |
| 00:41.55 | TacoGS | as much as I enjoy your humour :P it is not helping unfortunately |
| 00:42.01 | TacoGS | besides, the server doesn't wear pants |
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| 00:42.22 | jml2 | TacoGS, hopefully the people who use the systems are! |
| 00:42.27 | TacoGS | VPS |
| 00:42.28 | jml2 | TacoGS, jc! |
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| 00:42.53 | kreiben | exit |
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| 00:43.05 | TacoGS | Unfortunately it is a VPS text terminal only, no xorg |
| 00:43.11 | jml2 | TacoGS, there's logstash, it can listen to log changes, and then report based on what you want matched |
| 00:43.38 | TacoGS | Even if there was a program that recorded data to the local drive and I downloaded them, it would be fine |
| 00:43.58 | Guest52024 | Anyone have thoughts on using a ZFS root filesystem with debian 8? |
| 00:44.21 | jml2 | !zfs |
| 00:44.22 | dpkg | ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (http://deb.li/7xXU). The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel since 7.2 has ZFS support, the userland utilities are packaged as zfsutils. Native linux support is described and packaged at zfsonlinux.org but cannot be included in Debian due to license conflicts. |
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| 00:44.45 | markybob | TacoGS: rsynclog can send logs to a remote server if that's what you mean |
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| 00:44.53 | jml2 | it is being worked towards 'contrib' and is currently in unstable |
| 00:45.19 | markybob | TacoGS: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/01/rsyslog-remote-logging/ |
| 00:45.33 | TacoGS | markybob: You may have just helped me out |
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| 00:46.29 | TacoGS | markybob: I may just download the log dir |
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| 00:46.53 | jml2 | lol |
| 00:47.01 | markybob | heh. just noticed my typo. |
| 00:47.01 | jml2 | TacoGS, whatever works for you i suppose :) |
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| 00:47.14 | jml2 | TacoGS, but keep the pants on please thanks |
| 00:47.17 | TacoGS | Yeah, if I knew the logs it handled are all local in there I may just download them |
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| 00:47.29 | TacoGS | jml2: Pants, I haven't even got underwear on |
| 00:47.35 | palinf | Hi All, |
| 00:47.39 | jml2 | TacoGS, wtf!? lol |
| 00:47.43 | jml2 | TacoGS, you're mad |
| 00:47.53 | TacoGS | nope, quite calm and collect actually |
| 00:47.59 | TacoGS | slight breeze too |
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| 00:48.32 | jml2 | TacoGS, you can have logstash work per-event... which imho better, but it is a learning curve to understand logstash... though thebenefits are imho quite enormous as logstash is actually very powerful |
| 00:49.03 | TacoGS | I need to pretty much record CPU/Memory and load time averages every 5 seconds or so |
| 00:49.15 | jml2 | TacoGS, *syslog packages occassionaly "stream" to a destination... |
| 00:49.21 | palinf | What would be the simpliest way on debian to create a virtual machine with command line. The virtual machine will only be used as a docker-machine. The virtual machine just need ssh access, hostname and dhcpaddress. Any pointers welcome. |
| 00:49.25 | TacoGS | Someone is reporting that the server is under load at specific times but I need to be more specific |
| 00:49.28 | jml2 | TacoGS, i suppose you just want to email results |
| 00:49.45 | TacoGS | email, or even just log them local and I can download the logs |
| 00:50.33 | jml2 | TacoGS, there's syststat and sar packages, you can check out the tools with these packages... |
| 00:50.42 | TacoGS | nice |
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| 00:50.56 | jml2 | TacoGS, the keyword is 'benchmark' |
| 00:51.06 | jml2 | (package manager) |
| 00:51.09 | TacoGS | aye |
| 00:52.04 | TacoGS | apparently that was already installed, I just need to find the binary name |
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| 00:52.21 | jml2 | TacoGS, there's 'atsar' but i nver used that |
| 00:52.22 | TacoGS | lots of tjem it seems |
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| 00:52.28 | TacoGS | them |
| 00:52.30 | jml2 | 'Monitor system resources such as CPU, network, memory & disk I/O, and |
| 00:52.31 | jml2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.44 | TacoGS | wow, you are a godsend and a comedian |
| 00:52.51 | jml2 | TacoGS, the package sysstat actually has the sar program |
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| 00:53.19 | jml2 | TacoGS, these are well known tools... thing is there's more than 1 way to do what you're asking |
| 00:53.27 | TacoGS | http://sebastien.godard.pagesperso-orange.fr/documentation.html |
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| 00:55.41 | jml2 | yeah i misstyped -- syststat->sysstat |
| 00:55.51 | jml2 | oops |
| 00:55.52 | TacoGS | I realized the typo, you're good |
| 00:56.14 | jml2 | TacoGS, logstash is still way more powerful :) |
| 00:56.21 | jml2 | TacoGS, but would take much more work |
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| 00:56.33 | jml2 | TacoGS, (its despised from some because it uses java :) |
| 00:57.01 | jml2 | TacoGS, here i breathe linux 24/7 |
| 00:57.07 | jml2 | TacoGS, so i guess i'm a bit good :) |
| 00:57.31 | TacoGS | I use both Windows and Linux, I find they solve their own purpose. |
| 00:57.43 | andril | hello |
| 00:57.44 | TacoGS | I prefer embedded linux and small servers linux |
| 00:57.55 | TacoGS | hell, even my Windows dev environments are linux :P |
| 00:58.37 | jml2 | TacoGS, logstash also has a windows-event plugin... |
| 00:58.42 | jml2 | TacoGS, :) |
| 00:58.48 | TacoGS | Very good |
| 00:59.03 | TacoGS | I have the Windows 2016 server tech preview in a linux VM :P |
| 00:59.16 | jml2 | TacoGS, your point? :) |
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| 00:59.32 | jml2 | TacoGS, are the pants off yet? |
| 00:59.37 | jml2 | TacoGS, you're... |
| 00:59.39 | TacoGS | they were never on |
| 00:59.42 | jml2 | TacoGS, winblozed! ? |
| 00:59.52 | TacoGS | I use both |
| 00:59.58 | TacoGS | I am a gamer by nature |
| 01:00.00 | jml2 | TacoGS, no i mean your windows blow |
| 01:00.08 | jml2 | TacoGS, like "Win bloze!" |
| 01:00.16 | jml2 | TacoGS, nothing quite like 2016 |
| 01:00.17 | TacoGS | Yeah, it gets breezie without pants or underwear on |
| 01:00.24 | TacoGS | lol |
| 01:00.28 | jml2 | TacoGS, in "tech preview" |
| 01:00.33 | jml2 | TacoGS, especially for "you" |
| 01:00.44 | jml2 | TacoGS, cheap bastard |
| 01:00.52 | jml2 | lol |
| 01:00.59 | TacoGS | Cheap bastard? I use 20:1 linux |
| 01:01.01 | jml2 | does not use Windows! |
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| 01:01.45 | jml2 | nice talking to ya TacoGS gtg hahahaha |
| 01:01.47 | jml2 | :)) |
| 01:01.50 | TacoGS | lol |
| 01:01.53 | TacoGS | later man, thanks for the info |
| 01:01.54 | jml2 | take care crazy people :))) |
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| 01:04.22 | jrg | heh |
| 01:04.35 | jrg | using samba/cifs is a better solution to keep the infrastructure in line |
| 01:04.43 | jrg | if it actually works :/ |
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| 01:23.15 | chomwitt | i have a webserver (yaws) in debian 7 that after some starts and stop now it can be started . where can i check for errors? |
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| 01:23.41 | chomwitt | i mean from the 'service' command |
| 01:23.57 | chomwitt | ...it cant be started.. |
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| 01:35.17 | vegardx | Where you told it to log? |
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| 01:36.13 | vegardx | And are you sure you want / need JAWS? Shit seems oooooold. |
| 01:37.58 | LiverWurst | can anyone tell me if debian uses some kind of auto-config for X or where i can find the documention on how its setup? |
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| 01:38.08 | mauro25987 | hi |
| 01:38.21 | markybob | LiverWurst: it's auto unless you need something special |
| 01:38.35 | LiverWurst | i need something special appearantly |
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| 01:39.01 | LiverWurst | 2xmonitors and 2 different video cards connected to each |
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| 01:39.58 | markybob | LiverWurst: crossfire? |
| 01:40.39 | LiverWurst | non-free nvidia works on the main screen but the intel screen just powers up but no video on it |
| 01:41.15 | markybob | oh so bumblebee |
| 01:41.26 | markybob | !bumblebee |
| 01:41.26 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:41.32 | LiverWurst | i setup an xorg.conf but i dont think x reads it at startup |
| 01:41.45 | markybob | read the wiki posted above. smoke break for me |
| 01:42.09 | LiverWurst | yea i skimmed that already but ill check it again |
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| 01:43.59 | chomwitt | i just lost a bur report cause i didnt get a fair chance to save it after SMTP auth failure... that sucks |
| 01:44.13 | chomwitt | a bug report |
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| 02:27.31 | Vainglory | so potentially stupid question but i can't seem to find it - when a connection is enabled ( wireless or ethernet ), enabling a vpn automatically. |
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| 02:28.15 | Vainglory | also, https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN seems to be forbidden |
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| 02:28.48 | markybob | Vainglory: wiki works here |
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| 02:29.09 | Vainglory | markybob: i get: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN"> <title>403 Forbidden</title> <h1>Forbidden</h1> <p><p>You are not allowed to access this!</p></p> |
| 02:29.15 | Vainglory | as the source code |
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| 02:30.04 | Vainglory | also can't seem to access the wiki itself |
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| 02:31.48 | markybob | Vainglory: so it seems you have more basic routing problems to sort out |
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| 02:32.06 | Vainglory | markybob: my connection works just fine. there's only an issue with the debian site. |
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| 02:33.29 | markybob | Vainglory: i've been here all night...seen many links to wiki...no one complained. |
| 02:33.50 | Vainglory | markybob: well this is a new install of debian jessie, so i don't know what to say. |
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| 02:34.16 | awwal | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.32 | awwal | Vainglory, using tr or similar stuff? |
| 02:35.40 | Vainglory | awwal: tr? |
| 02:35.49 | awwal | tor ^ |
| 02:36.05 | Vainglory | don't have it installed, nor am i using the tor browser |
| 02:37.06 | awwal | proxy stuff? |
| 02:38.24 | Vainglory | just a vpn. nothing out of the ordinary |
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| 02:39.38 | ransur0t | Hi. Any ideas how to remove a scanner device? I switched ISP and updated my subnet config. The old entry for a scanner still shows up in simple scan and xsane ... |
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| 02:40.07 | ransur0t | I've looked at cups.conf, hplip, sand.d, ... among other places I can't recall at the moment! |
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| 03:21.43 | LiverWurst | bubblebee failed |
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| 03:22.41 | LiverWurst | how in the world do you get into console mode from the grub menu? |
| 03:25.02 | kreiben1_ | LiverWurst: ctrl+c |
| 03:25.07 | kreiben1_ | I think |
| 03:25.13 | kreiben1_ | worth a try |
| 03:25.18 | jkjensen | Or you can edit the entry to boot into run level 3 |
| 03:25.41 | LiverWurst | tried single, 3 and it didnt work |
| 03:25.52 | LiverWurst | text = nope |
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| 03:26.15 | kreiben1_ | or configure grub to give a boot to a console as an additional option. |
| 03:26.20 | jkjensen | Bumblebee failed? Have you tried adding "noacpi noapic nomodeset" as options? |
| 03:27.00 | LiverWurst | systemd.unit=multi-user.target = nope |
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| 03:28.07 | LiverWurst | no..i went back and looked and i don't have one of those optimus video cards |
| 03:29.34 | LiverWurst | i had the installation media on a usb stick and was able to run rescue mode and uninstall all the bumblebee packages and everything worked again |
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| 03:31.51 | jkjensen | Should be able to blacklist that driver through the grub entry |
| 03:32.03 | jkjensen | At least temporarily |
| 03:32.42 | LiverWurst | idk..i was so frustrated i bout punched the screen |
| 03:33.44 | jkjensen | ha, That's unnecessary. Check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/110341/how-to-blacklist-kernel-modules |
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| 03:34.55 | jkjensen | At the bottom it shows how to blacklist it through the boot entry. Give it a go and it should revert to nouveau |
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| 04:28.37 | basanta | apt-get install pgtune doesn;'t download |
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| 04:29.45 | jmcnaught | basanta: is that a package name? |
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| 04:33.44 | basanta | jmcnaught, yes |
| 04:34.16 | jmcnaught | ,v pgtune |
| 04:34.18 | judd | Package: pgtune on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.3-1; wheezy: 0.9.3-2 |
| 04:34.26 | jmcnaught | not anymore :/ |
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| 04:35.30 | jmcnaught | basanta: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776948 |
| 04:35.32 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/776948 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: pgtune -- ROM; upstream dead, and bad advise to be used today»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-02-03; last modified: 2015-03-20. |
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| 04:52.11 | basanta | jmcnaught, thanks got it. |
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| 04:52.45 | basanta | jmcnaught, was trying to fine tune openerp/postgres |
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| 05:17.18 | han-solo | guys, is it possible to run both bash and ksh at the same time? |
| 05:17.28 | grantwu | What do you mean at the same time? |
| 05:17.30 | han-solo | and how to get ksh? |
| 05:17.44 | han-solo | ofcourse in two different terminals |
| 05:17.44 | grantwu | apt-get install ksh |
| 05:18.12 | han-solo | okay |
| 05:18.15 | grantwu | Yes, shells are just programs, there's nothing stopping you from running them in separate terminals at the same time |
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| 05:23.06 | han-solo | okay thanks, my system just restarted(unusal) |
| 05:23.52 | han-solo | so didn't get what you said after apt-get :) |
| 05:24.15 | Jaga-Jaga | How can I wake my debian from suspend with only power button? (i want to prevent accidental wakes as i move my laptop around) |
| 05:24.27 | grantwu | han-solo: Yes, shells are just programs, there's nothing stopping you from running them in separate terminals at the same time |
| 05:24.41 | han-solo | grantwu: okay, thanks |
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| 05:25.16 | han-solo | so i can just change the SHELL variable to /bin/ksh in the other, right? |
| 05:26.09 | grantwu | no, if you want to launch ksh, you should just run ksh from bash |
| 05:26.20 | han-solo | okay |
| 05:26.35 | han-solo | thanks |
| 05:26.42 | grantwu | You can also do exec ksh if you don't want ksh to be a child of bash |
| 05:26.53 | han-solo | although, which one do you prefer? |
| 05:27.14 | grantwu | SHELL is something that should be set by the shell itself on startup for informative purposes, changing it shouldn't affect the behavior of the shell |
| 05:27.32 | grantwu | Although it might affect programs run from the shell which have shell-dependent behavior |
| 05:27.36 | grantwu | I actually use zsh |
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| 05:28.37 | Jaga-Jaga | How can I wake my debian from suspend with only power button? (i want to prevent accidental wakes as i move my laptop around) |
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| 05:30.18 | han-solo | okay |
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| 06:31.09 | shtrb | Other than a VM , do I have a solution for a chroot to a different arch ? I had a problem in upgrading jessy to testing on pi, systemd started to missbehave (failure to start/stop services), and I wish to save the system by chrooting into it and fixing the system |
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| 06:34.09 | juul | Hi. I'm working on a debian-derived distro that needs to be very minimal with regards to amount of harddrive space used. I'd like to use packages from the Debian repository but I'd like to strip away certain things like documentation and multi-language files. |
| 06:34.43 | juul | Would I need to manually alter the debian/rules of every package or is there a way to filter installed files by path? |
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| 06:39.19 | plasmoduck | juul: manual |
| 06:39.31 | plasmoduck | manually |
| 06:42.16 | juul | plasmoduck: ok thanks |
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| 07:30.58 | dombarg | Anyone here installed RStudio Server on an ARM Chromebook on Debian? |
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| 07:42.28 | shtrb | anyone about the chroot question ? |
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| 08:00.59 | juul | shtrb: ? |
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| 08:17.40 | KindOne | What the hell? sudo: unable to resolve host 127.0.0.1localhost.machine |
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| 08:37.48 | themill | juul: dpkg can ignore paths at install time; that's configurable |
| 08:38.33 | juul | themill: ooh! |
| 08:38.59 | themill | juul: see path-exclude in dpkg(1) |
| 08:39.41 | juul | thanks! is there a way to do the same with aptitude/apt-get ? |
| 08:39.41 | apt | no problem, juul |
| 08:39.58 | themill | you stick that in the dpkg config file |
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| 08:40.58 | juul | themill: ah so aptitude calls dpkg? |
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| 08:43.31 | juul | hm no aptitude doesn't depend on dpkg |
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| 08:45.47 | themill | juul: all package unpacking is done by dpkg; "Essential: yes" packages aren't listed as dependencies |
| 08:46.15 | themill | (It'd be highly advisable to learn a bit more about how debian works before trying to reinvent it) |
| 08:46.45 | themill | you'll create yourself a lot of pain or useless work chasing shadows |
| 08:46.49 | juul | ah! |
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| 08:49.07 | wewlad | hey debs |
| 08:49.41 | wewlad | does anyone know what's the reason of this? https://paste.kde.org/pv9qxo1wz |
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| 08:51.08 | juul | themill: Yes i'm definitely learning as i go here. Thanks a lot for the help! |
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| 08:52.05 | themill | np |
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| 08:54.38 | juul | wewlad: probably a question for the wine folks? |
| 08:55.36 | wewlad | juul: wine folks said to report it to debian if the issue is reproducible |
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| 09:16.52 | Nel | hi @ all |
| 09:17.02 | bazhang | hi |
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| 09:17.33 | Nel | german or english speaking guys here? |
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| 09:18.11 | bazhang | english |
| 09:18.24 | themill | Nel: this is an English-speaking channel; #debian.de also exists. |
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| 09:20.44 | Nel | thx for info, themill - i need help with my device. cannot connect my smartphone to debian. any ideas? i am a real noob :( |
| 09:21.12 | Nel | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 09:21.22 | Nel | samsung galaxy s5 |
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| 09:24.22 | bazhang | ,v gmtp |
| 09:24.23 | judd | Package: gmtp on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.3.3-1; jessie: 1.3.7-1; jessie-backports: 1.3.9-2~bpo8+1; sid: 1.3.9-2; stretch: 1.3.9-2 |
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| 09:24.50 | bazhang | Nel, try that^ |
| 09:26.41 | Nel | bazhang, sry i didn't get it? what should i try? |
| 09:27.09 | bazhang | gmtp |
| 09:27.32 | Nel | gmtp: Kommando nicht gefunden |
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| 09:27.51 | bazhang | it's a package to install |
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| 09:28.43 | Nel | ok. well as i am a real noob, i would really really need full information what letters to put in the terminal: is "aptget gmtp"correct? |
| 09:29.19 | bazhang | apt-get install packagename |
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| 09:45.46 | Nel | same problem after installing gmtp :( |
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| 11:15.24 | jordila | hola #debian |
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| 11:20.19 | jordila | hi i am on a Wheezy --> Jessie upgrade : |
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| 11:21.13 | jordila | May i 'Configuration file '/etc/sysctl.conf' , ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. |
| 11:21.13 | jordila | keep it or update it ? |
| 11:21.15 | jordila | :-/ |
| 11:21.57 | jordila | Mmh... is this warning maybe due to a simple swappinness adjustment in the past ? |
| 11:23.27 | dutchfish | jordila, you should know. One question, did you make a backup before starting on this? |
| 11:24.16 | jordila | yes, backup(ed) |
| 11:24.21 | dutchfish | ok |
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| 11:24.53 | dutchfish | jordila, in that case, i would go with the one the packagmaintainer supplied. |
| 11:25.04 | jordila | new one... ok |
| 11:25.09 | MaBunny | how many times can you format a 64 gb pendrive??? |
| 11:25.45 | TomTomTosch | how often you like. |
| 11:25.54 | MaBunny | 10 at most :D |
| 11:26.06 | jordila | i think that any change to systcl.conf in the past... was just fine tunning anyway dutchfish |
| 11:26.20 | dutchfish | jordila, ok, fair enough. |
| 11:26.23 | MaBunny | i didnt solve the problems i had with my 64 gb pendrive |
| 11:26.30 | jordila | :-) |
| 11:26.34 | MaBunny | my delivery came today :( |
| 11:27.13 | MaBunny | wait ill show the product i bought |
| 11:27.14 | jordila | mmh... here comes all the new systemd stuff , while upgrading... |
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| 11:29.26 | jordila | mmh... #debian , any other recommendation while Wheezy to Jessie upgrading ? :-/ |
| 11:30.19 | TomTomTosch | jordila: reading the release notes is the first thing you should do. |
| 11:30.50 | jordila | :-) |
| 11:33.17 | MaBunny | heres the thing i bought--> http://www.flipkart.com/egizmos-connector-male-am-female-af-usb-cable/p/itmeaqfyubaj4kkb?pid=ACCEAQFYZGHTQG7E&otracker=reco_pp_historyFooter_mobileaccessory_na_3 |
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| 11:34.13 | MaBunny | it works with pendrives |
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| 11:36.05 | MaBunny | i remember tht i formatted my pendrive once,so i was asking |
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| 11:39.46 | MaBunny | ??? |
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| 11:41.32 | MaBunny | anyways...this is the sleeping hour :| |
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| 12:17.42 | antzero | Anybody has an idea of 3 red icons persistent in the system tray? (MATE desktop) |
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| 12:20.39 | telecity | antzero: how do you mean |
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| 12:37.11 | antzero | imgur.com/XK9iEcB |
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| 12:42.28 | Guest14726 | Hi, i use Debian Jessie and the Nvidia driver from backport but i play Dota 2 and they are going to switch to Vulkan next week how can i install this Nvidia with Vulkan driver safely i mean with repo plz ? |
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| 12:56.08 | dutchfish | Guest14726, its unlikely it will be in yet, even sid. But you can take the nvidia route https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver. I have only expirience with AMD gpu's. |
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| 12:58.22 | user___ | hey |
| 12:58.28 | user___ | I thought duplicate file names were not possible |
| 12:58.45 | user___ | but i'm looking at my irssi logs and there are two files named #debian.log |
| 12:58.54 | user___ | so I'm confused |
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| 13:05.15 | user___ | another question |
| 13:05.26 | user___ | when I'm in the file explorer |
| 13:05.40 | user___ | if I type a letter to jump to a folder |
| 13:05.47 | user___ | it starts searching instead |
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| 13:29.47 | user___ | bash question |
| 13:29.57 | user___ | how do I remove a non empty directory? |
| 13:30.04 | user___ | with multiple folders and files within it |
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| 13:30.19 | evilman_work | rm -rf <path-to-directory> |
| 13:31.39 | user___ | evilman_work: thanks |
| 13:31.50 | user___ | I can't see the -rf parameter in the help bit though |
| 13:31.55 | user___ | does -rf = -r -f? |
| 13:32.06 | Xenthys | yes |
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| 13:32.21 | user___ | what happens if I leave out f? |
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| 13:35.51 | jml2 | user___, maybe you should do ->"man intro<enter>" and "man rm" |
| 13:36.01 | jml2 | user___, you can concatenate options |
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| 13:43.34 | user___ | jml2: thanks |
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| 14:27.52 | docmur | I'm trying to install teamviewer via the command line to a debian 8 live dvd. I've downloaded the amd64 version but when I go to install i get the following two unmet dependacies: lib32asound2 and ia32-libs I did an apt-cache search and can't find them, where would i get these packages from? |
| 14:29.22 | themill | sounds like you've got the i386 version there |
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| 14:30.30 | kenifanying | hi all, how to enable 256 color support in gnome-terminal? |
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| 14:31.42 | docmur | that's the weird part, I made sure to down the amd64 version |
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| 14:32.13 | jml2 | docmur, you should just use the tarball in this case |
| 14:32.22 | docmur | okay |
| 14:33.11 | jml2 | docmur, unfort it looks like the tar is i386-only, but you can see from there if theres less issues |
| 14:34.04 | jml2 | docmur, here i see .64 somewhere, so it might also have 64-bit compile in it |
| 14:34.13 | docmur | okay |
| 14:36.04 | jml2 | docmur, no wonder its not in debian, it uses wine. |
| 14:36.10 | markybob | docmur: you didn't get that deb from teamviewer website, did you? it's asking for wheezy deps. i downloaded their multiarch deb and it works fine without needing those. |
| 14:36.51 | jml2 | docmur, for the tar, that is, dunno about the other .rpm or .deb |
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| 14:59.17 | syncrr | what's the smallest, simplest software in current debian stable for fetching mail from a pop3 server into a local maildir, leave the mails on the server for 30 days after they were downloaded, always use tls, and only fetch when explicitly asked to? no local mail system, no outgoing mail, no gui. |
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| 15:00.13 | jml2 | syncrr, you pretty much said it |
| 15:00.17 | jml2 | syncrr, fetchmail |
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| 15:01.06 | jml2 | syncrr, you can also spot alternatives using this keyword, there's a number of them |
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| 15:01.31 | syncrr | jml2: thanks, will have a look. |
| 15:01.53 | eluus | I install parted with "sudo aptitude install parted" |
| 15:02.09 | eluus | and then when I type parted I get "bash: parted: command not found" |
| 15:02.09 | jml2 | syncrr, there's also procmail, if you need to do some processing on messages |
| 15:02.30 | jml2 | eluus, um, but you're using ubuntu |
| 15:02.37 | eluus | nevermind, sudo parted works |
| 15:02.43 | sje46 | eluus: apt-cache search parted |
| 15:02.46 | syncrr | jml2: ok. i might want to have some sort of subdir or tag system, but i'm thinking of using notmuch for that. |
| 15:02.47 | eluus | no I am using debian |
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| 15:02.56 | sje46 | Try that, that will tell you candidates for parted |
| 15:03.41 | sje46 | oh wait, sorry, eluus |
| 15:03.47 | sje46 | You did successfully install it |
| 15:03.51 | sje46 | try apropos parted |
| 15:03.54 | eluus | sje46: sudo parted actually works |
| 15:04.00 | eluus | don't know why parted alone didn't work |
| 15:04.14 | jml2 | eluus, if you're not superuser, then /sbin is not in $PATH |
| 15:04.15 | sje46 | Do you know what sudo does? |
| 15:04.25 | markybob | because you're fucking with the HD. that's huge. you need root |
| 15:04.27 | eluus | executes the command as super user? |
| 15:04.48 | eluus | I'm trying to format the usb stick in gpt |
| 15:04.48 | jml2 | eluus, you also shouldn't be using parted on a mounted system |
| 15:04.48 | sje46 | eluus: yeah. It's not soething you want any user on your computer to do. |
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| 15:05.43 | jml2 | eluus, you're not going to fix your bios-lock problem with linux |
| 15:05.44 | sje46 | user including any malicious program not running under rot as well |
| 15:05.57 | jml2 | eluus, that you have to resort to your manufacturer manual on how to reset the bios |
| 15:06.13 | markybob | wishes he had seen the start of this |
| 15:06.17 | eluus | jml2: I'll first try to boot from debian installer that is on a gpt formatted usb |
| 15:06.37 | jml2 | eluus, well according to what you said (#linux) the only linux that boots is ubuntu |
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| 15:06.52 | eluus | yes, and I am trying to install debian |
| 15:06.56 | jml2 | eluus, still playing around with usb formats is not going to fix your bios-lock problem |
| 15:07.16 | eluus | on some places it says it might help |
| 15:07.27 | jml2 | eluus, you're stubborn |
| 15:07.36 | jml2 | and "clueless" :) |
| 15:07.53 | sje46 | stubborness can be a good quality sometimes |
| 15:08.01 | markybob | you're actually doing parted on a usb to copy a debian install image to it? |
| 15:08.03 | jml2 | sje46, not if your bios is locked |
| 15:08.10 | jml2 | sje46, has nothing to do with linux |
| 15:08.54 | sje46 | Appropriately executed stubborness |
| 15:09.06 | markybob | because if you say yes...that's crazy. |
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| 15:09.20 | eluus | markybob: yes, how else I can make it GPT? |
| 15:09.41 | jml2 | also linux isoz are hybrid, are uefi and bios bootable.. but even that he doesn't even know about |
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| 15:09.54 | eluus | jml2: I know that |
| 15:10.02 | markybob | eluus: you're not making sense. |
| 15:10.15 | eluus | jml2: some have suggested that making it GPT could make the UEFI boot from it |
| 15:10.30 | markybob | eluus: did you use the live install? |
| 15:11.07 | eluus | markybob: the bios/uefi of the computer is fucked up, it doesn't boot into installers |
| 15:11.30 | markybob | throw it out |
| 15:12.04 | eluus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1082418 |
| 15:12.18 | eluus | markybob: if it was my computer, I would |
| 15:12.45 | jml2 | eluus, maybe your brother-in-law set a password on the bios |
| 15:12.52 | eluus | no he didn't |
| 15:12.53 | jml2 | eluus, ask him for the password |
| 15:13.04 | eluus | I was able to get in the bios before |
| 15:13.04 | jml2 | eluus, well ther's no other reason why it all of a sudden became "locked" |
| 15:13.13 | eluus | jml2: read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1082418 |
| 15:13.21 | jml2 | eluus, ask on #ubuntu |
| 15:13.22 | eluus | this is what happened to me |
| 15:13.30 | markybob | eluus: when he's in the bathroom take a screwdriver, go in and take out the cpu. done. he'll never know. |
| 15:13.37 | jml2 | eluus, here I use "reportbug" with bugs.debian.org |
| 15:14.01 | markybob | eluus: it just "died" |
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| 15:14.48 | eluus | I just want the computer to work |
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| 15:15.18 | markybob | i'm sorry we can't fix your fucked up bios. that's kind of outside #debian |
| 15:15.35 | eluus | yes, I came here to ask about parted |
| 15:15.39 | eluus | which was resolved |
| 15:16.09 | eluus | I mentioned the bios issue to answer your question |
| 15:16.24 | eluus | as to why I was trying to format the usb stick to the gpt format |
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| 15:25.47 | jamesl | I'm trying to install debian on an unallocated partition, alongside windows 10. There were no errors in the installation, and GRUB appared to install successfuly on sda. GRUB recognized windows 10 was present, but when I restarted, instead of the grub menu the standard windows loader started, preventing me from being able to boot into linux. How to install a bootloader so I can select between Windows 10 and Debian 8? |
| 15:26.55 | jamesl | and windows 10 started automatic repair when it first booted. It then started a disk chack, and I just got a popup saying windows 10 needed to "repair drive errors" |
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| 15:27.19 | markybob | jamesl: did you use live install? |
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| 15:27.39 | jamesl | markybob: no, graphical install from CD-ROM |
| 15:27.42 | AfterDark | Honestly, in this situation, I recommend EasyBCD to modify the Windows boot loader to see Linux. |
| 15:27.43 | AfterDark | https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/ |
| 15:27.57 | markybob | jamesl: that doesn't answer the question |
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| 15:28.24 | jamesl | markybob: what do you mean live install? I booted from CD, selected graphical install, followed the promps |
| 15:28.28 | jamesl | prompts* |
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| 15:29.08 | markybob | booted from cd tells me nothing about which install you used |
| 15:30.06 | jamesl | I booted from CD, I used the arrow keys to select "graphical install", I pressed enter. There were no "types of install" to select from. |
| 15:30.42 | markybob | jamesl: i can't tell if you're trolling me or not. |
| 15:30.44 | jamesl | what information do you require? |
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| 15:31.10 | jamesl | I don't exactly know what live install is, can you explain what a live installation is please? |
| 15:32.15 | jamesl | markybob: what is a "live install" and how do I tell if I used it or not? |
| 15:32.17 | markybob | you use the live iso. debian has many iso's. all different to some extent. live doesn't support uefi. |
| 15:32.34 | jamesl | I used the normal installation iso, not a live iso. |
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| 15:33.00 | markybob | what was the exact name of the iso? |
| 15:33.41 | jamesl | markybob: debian CD-1 i386 |
| 15:34.04 | markybob | no. no it wasnt. i give up. |
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| 15:36.21 | Jaga-Jaga | How can I prevent my laptop;s keyboard to wake the computer from Suspend? (I'd prefer to use the power button instead) |
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| 15:38.22 | syncrr | Jaga-Jaga: you probably can't. |
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| 15:38.40 | syncrr | Jaga-Jaga: that usually happens without any intervention from the os. |
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| 15:41.53 | Jaga-Jaga | syncrr: then i;; ll gave up debian in favor of windows |
| 15:42.25 | markybob | Jaga-Jaga: makes sense |
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| 15:55.07 | jamesl | markybob: Debian GNU/Linux 8.2.0 "Jessie" - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20150906-10:02 |
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| 15:59.56 | Jaga-Jaga | can anyone tell me which one is my laptop's keyboard? http://paste.debian.net/694104/ |
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| 16:09.54 | Jaga-Jaga | How can I disable my laptop's keyboard from waking up the computer from Suspend? (I want to use the power button only) |
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| 16:11.24 | petn-randall | Jaga-Jaga: That is something your BIOS does. Check if your BIOS has such a setting. |
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| 16:11.56 | julius_ | hi |
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| 16:12.30 | Jaga-Jaga | petn-randall: I see someone who managed to make his mouse wake up, if u want i show u the link |
| 16:12.41 | julius_ | apparentl virtualbox cant load its kernel driver...i just rebooted and im running a default debian kernel. how can i manuall build the vbox module? |
| 16:12.58 | Jaga-Jaga | petn-randall: so i'd assume i could do the reverse and disable my keyboard |
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| 16:24.39 | avallac_h | julius_: check dkms manpage (/usr/sbin/dkms) or simply run 'dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms' |
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| 16:33.07 | ChrisH | julius_: I sometimes faced the problem of missing packages. Installing a newer kernel build the modules automagically and booting into the new installed kernel will load them. |
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| 16:42.57 | Skyrider | Can anyone recommend a SSH client where you can have multiple (tabbed) sessions + where scrolling up/down is possible? |
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| 16:48.32 | sje46 | Skyrider: not a direct answer to your question, but maybe look into gnu screen or tmux? |
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| 16:49.07 | Skyrider | Did forgot to mention, windows client :) |
| 16:49.10 | jamesl | I am trying to dualboot Windows with debian 8, and I installed GRUB as part of Debian's setup. When I booted my PC after the installation finished, the Windows bootloader started, leaving me no option to boot into Linux. I tried to use easyBCD to add a Linux entry, but apparently I'm running in EFI mode, even though I enabled "launch CSM" and disabled secure boot. How to get GRUB working on EFI, so I can dual-boot windows 10 |
| 16:49.10 | jamesl | and debian 8? |
| 16:49.42 | babilen | Skyrider: Generally you simply run your SSH client in a shell and use whatever window manager or terminal you deem most helpful. Using a terminal multiplexer such as the aforementioned tmux or screen is another way .. |
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| 16:55.50 | Skyrider | Will check it out |
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| 16:56.49 | babilen | Skyrider: Might want to look into mosh also if you are on intermittent connections (such as a laptop that you carry from A to B) |
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| 17:00.39 | Skyrider | babilen Either I'm blind or mosh windows client is only available for Chrome (windows). |
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| 17:01.19 | babilen | Windows? |
| 17:01.29 | babilen | You can install mosh with "apt-get install mosh" |
| 17:01.50 | babilen | (as this in #debian !!) |
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| 17:03.17 | babilen | Skyrider: Err, yeah .. you mentioned Windows earlier. What does that have to do with Debian and why don't you ask in ##windows? I mean, naturally, our support in here pertains to Debian |
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| 17:10.06 | ianthius | I asked a question earlier about a HD from a NAS but got disconnected, if anyone responded i missed it :) |
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| 17:10.55 | Skyrider | Indeed, but debian = linux, connection to shell is usually towards linux. |
| 17:11.00 | Skyrider | Hence, I'm asking here :) |
| 17:11.15 | Skyrider | But never knew such windows channel existed ^^. |
| 17:11.29 | Skyrider | What's up with the double # in channel names though? |
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| 17:13.33 | babilen | Skyrider: Yeah, but you are not asking for advice about Debian and the advice we gave does not apply to Windows. So please, ask in the appropriate channel :) |
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| 17:17.18 | ianthius | when i run 'parted /dev/sdb print' i see the main data partition as not have a listed filesystem. It was using some combo of RAID and some logical volume stuff :( |
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| 17:35.21 | shantanoo | hi all |
| 17:36.37 | Guest78862 | Heya |
| 17:36.48 | shantanoo | i have setup pptpd on a VPS. am able to connect to it. ipv4 is working perfectly fine. i don't have ipv6 connectivity, but the vps has. can i use it to access ipv6 sites? similar to ipv4-ipv6 tunnel. |
| 17:37.36 | Guest78862 | I rlly do now know about that stuff. |
| 17:37.41 | Guest78862 | not* |
| 17:37.49 | shantanoo | :( |
| 17:37.57 | shantanoo | Guest78862: no worries |
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| 18:02.37 | julius_ | ChrisH, theres no newer kernel :( |
| 18:02.52 | julius_ | avallac_h, thank you...but that commands gives me: Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the |
| 18:02.52 | julius_ | kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed |
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| 18:04.14 | julius_ | linux-image-4.5.0-0.bpo.1-amd64/jessie-backports thats my currently running kernel |
| 18:04.27 | julius_ | what is the common source name for that? |
| 18:04.55 | avallac_h | justyns: try this: 'apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' |
| 18:06.13 | julius_ | ah |
| 18:06.17 | julius_ | i was thining of: apt install linux-source-`uname -r` |
| 18:06.23 | julius_ | lets try yours |
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| 18:07.16 | julius_ | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' |
| 18:07.19 | julius_ | oh wit |
| 18:07.25 | julius_ | E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-4.5.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
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| 18:07.42 | avallac_h | julius_: update your apt cache |
| 18:08.16 | avallac_h | julius_: currently backports contain linux-headers-4.5.0-0.bpo.2-all |
| 18:08.49 | teraflops | julius_: shellcheck would have warned you about that `uname -r` :P |
| 18:09.22 | julius_ | maybe a -t jessie-backports will help |
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| 18:09.58 | julius_ | hm |
| 18:10.14 | julius_ | just specifying the version/name you posted did it |
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| 18:10.25 | avallac_h | julius_: yes. I forgot about that. |
| 18:10.57 | julius_ | there should be a "link" in the repo to make the uname version work |
| 18:11.11 | julius_ | giving it a different name is kinda unhelpfull in this case |
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| 18:13.22 | jannis | does anyone happen to know a webpage (or other place) with some advice about intel i915 (skylake) graphics on Debian? |
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| 18:14.06 | avallac_h | julius_: what do you mean? $(uname -r) - returns kernel version that you currently use |
| 18:14.08 | lucas-arg | any apt source to use with nice themes for cinnamon?? |
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| 18:17.11 | julius_ | avallac_h, but linux-headers-$(uname -r)' did not work |
| 18:17.29 | SzateX_ | Hi. Is any way to translate bash prompts to English from other language - not using google translate? I have some problems with install Brackets but the all prompts are in Polish |
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| 18:19.27 | avallac_h | julius_: you need to manually select a jessie-backports with -t option |
| 18:20.06 | julius_ | avallac_h, crap...dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms is still unable to find the sources but: Setting up linux-headers-4.5.0-0.bpo.2-all (4.5.3-2~bpo8+1) ... is dome |
| 18:20.08 | julius_ | done |
| 18:20.35 | avallac_h | julius_: do you have backports enabled? |
| 18:20.40 | julius_ | yes |
| 18:21.06 | julius_ | now apt upgrade wants to upgrade linux-image-amd64 |
| 18:21.13 | julius_ | lets see if that works |
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| 18:22.04 | julius_ | jannis, use the kernel in jessie-backports |
| 18:22.09 | avallac_h | julius_: you need to upgrade you kernel to linux-headers-4.5.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 18:22.44 | julius_ | jannis, you get decent flash performance at high cpu loads. fullscreen movie watching is skippy with totem/mplayer |
| 18:23.25 | julius_ | avallac_h, ah yes of course |
| 18:23.36 | julius_ | apt just did that, now i need to reboot |
| 18:24.03 | jannis | julius, I'm running the latest kernel in unstable, but there are some problems with video playback (vlc crashes, full screen playback doesn't work properly) |
| 18:24.35 | jannis | and I was curious whether Debian has some sort of page about the status of recent hardware, like Arch linux does |
| 18:25.02 | julius_ | ah yes i installed a bunch of other packages from jessie-backports |
| 18:25.17 | julius_ | but you probably already have them since your running unstable |
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| 18:25.37 | julius_ | fullscreen support gives me a small window in mplayer for example |
| 18:25.39 | julius_ | brb |
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| 18:32.25 | awwal | awwal wonders my he have chromium if pepperflash is no longer available for i386 :P |
| 18:32.36 | awwal | why ^ |
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| 18:33.13 | teraflops | wonders if awwal knows about /me |
| 18:33.34 | awwal | teraflops, no clue. whats that? |
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| 18:33.54 | teraflops | awwal: you write /me whatever |
| 18:33.56 | julius_ | knows |
| 18:33.58 | teraflops | :P |
| 18:34.05 | awwal | teraflps, oh, ok :) |
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| 18:34.38 | julius_ | you kinda have to know thÃs or youre just a hipstar |
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| 18:34.58 | nikoma | hi, I can't mount a CD, I get the following error msg "mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock" |
| 18:35.02 | nikoma | any idea what could be wrong? |
| 18:35.03 | teraflops | julius_: ha! |
| 18:35.25 | mtn | nikoma: tired more than one cd? |
| 18:35.30 | mtn | tried, that is |
| 18:35.34 | julius_ | hipstar means you only eat veggie burgers and crap |
| 18:35.47 | nikoma | not yet |
| 18:35.59 | mtn | nikoma: first troubleshooting step |
| 18:36.05 | nikoma | will have to find some other cd for that haha |
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| 18:36.13 | julius_ | as the nike commercials says: just do it |
| 18:37.04 | teraflops | nikoma: how do you mount the cdrom? |
| 18:37.29 | nikoma | sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom |
| 18:37.36 | awwal | nikoma, is automounting enabled there? |
| 18:37.42 | julius_ | tried nautilus? |
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| 18:38.06 | nikoma | I don't think automounting is enabled |
| 18:38.28 | teraflops | nikoma: give a try to `sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /mnt` also take a look at the logs while doing it |
| 18:38.40 | olx69 | can a mounted hard disk spin down. Prio mounting after a idel time it got into standy. After I mounted it it doesn't seems to any more. |
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| 18:39.28 | olx69 | or better: can a mounted hard disk spin down? Prior mounting, after a idle time it got into standy. After I mounted it it doesn't seems to any more. |
| 18:39.53 | teraflops | olx69: hdparm |
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| 18:41.50 | nikoma | http://pastebin.com/rr4e3tUZ |
| 18:41.54 | nikoma | here's the log |
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| 18:45.21 | teraflops | nikoma: the cdrom is borked :P |
| 18:46.45 | nikoma | can it also be just corrupted cd? |
| 18:46.48 | teraflops | nikoma: wait, it his an audio cd? |
| 18:46.54 | teraflops | this* |
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| 18:47.35 | nikoma | I think so |
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| 18:47.44 | teraflops | you _dont_ mount audio cds! |
| 18:47.54 | nikoma | what do you do with them? |
| 18:48.04 | teraflops | just play it |
| 18:48.28 | nikoma | how? |
| 18:49.07 | teraflops | mplayer vlc ... |
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| 18:51.58 | nikoma | ok, it works, thank you so much! |
| 18:52.04 | teraflops | np |
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| 19:07.11 | Jaga-Jaga | I want to setup a hotkey to suspend my machine. However the command needs "sudo" and I see it doesn't work. ANy ideas? |
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| 19:10.46 | olx69 | teraflops: hdparm works so far; I'm able to set it into standby '-y' and after idel time (spindown_time = 60 aka 300sec) is goes into standby. Now it's mounted to bacula storage, which has access only at xxx PM, and doesn't standby anymore |
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| 19:11.51 | teraflops | Does it work with sudo? If it does you can use use e.g polkit (pkexec) |
| 19:12.10 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: ^ |
| 19:12.14 | markybob | i assume he doesn't have sudo installed |
| 19:12.24 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: it works with this command : systemctl suspend |
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| 19:13.18 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: however the funny part is that if suspended from terminal it doesnt ask for no password when i wake it up. |
| 19:13.19 | teraflops | olx69: if the disk is in use why not -B? |
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| 19:14.09 | olx69 | what do you mean? |
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| 19:14.33 | olx69 | hdparm -B /dev/sdb show APM_level= off |
| 19:14.49 | olx69 | is set to 255 (default 254) |
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| 19:15.10 | olx69 | setit with -S60 (iirc) |
| 19:15.29 | teraflops | olx69: no. -B 254 please check the manage I'm not sure |
| 19:15.52 | olx69 | it's a WD, with 254 never will spin down :( |
| 19:15.56 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: do you need sudo for systemctl suspend? |
| 19:16.07 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: nope. |
| 19:16.16 | teraflops | olx69: wat? |
| 19:16.25 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: now i can suspend using a hotkey! |
| 19:17.00 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: its just that when i wake it up. doesnt ask for no password. which is not funny |
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| 19:17.05 | olx69 | WD disk have problems with spin down after the given time; some suggest to use hd-idle (not on debian as far I've seen). The work arround is to disable APM |
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| 19:18.31 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: what does mean asking for no password? Same as not asking for a password? Sorry English is hard for me |
| 19:18.40 | olx69 | is one partition is mounted it doesn#t spin down; is it not mountted it spins down afte rthe given time; hence the question - if there is no read/write on the partition, does it spindle down even if the partition is mounted |
| 19:19.38 | teraflops | olx69: oh well -B 254 means powrsaving by default. I wasn't aware of that particular issue |
| 19:19.59 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: i mean, it doesnt ask for my user password. it means my mom can access my porn collection |
| 19:20.21 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: use xscreensaver |
| 19:20.28 | teraflops | Or a DM |
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| 19:21.41 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: when i suspend from the menu, it does ask for my password wen i wake it up. ... i would like the same behaviour when i suspend from a terminal. |
| 19:22.02 | olx69 | teraflops: hdparm -y /dev/sdb; hdparm -C /dev/sdb drive state is: standby |
| 19:22.03 | olx69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.12 | olx69 | starnge ... |
| 19:22.28 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: your mom cannot watch your porn from tty |
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| 19:24.54 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: my mom would just press the power putton and the computer will wake up and she can acces everything |
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| 19:26.45 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: if you suspend from tty what happens when it wakes up? it's still on tty? |
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| 19:27.27 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: ye |
| 19:27.28 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: and if you suspend from the DE it asks for a password right? |
| 19:27.33 | Jaga-Jaga | ye |
| 19:27.35 | teraflops | then youre r0ng |
| 19:27.51 | teraflops | i mean I was right ;P |
| 19:28.37 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: if i suspend from the DE, it asks for a password. if i suspend from a terminal, it does NOT ask for password |
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| 19:29.12 | teraflops | and again is your mom able to see your damn porn from tty? |
| 19:29.30 | teraflops | this is getting weird... |
| 19:29.44 | markybob | it's been weird. |
| 19:30.08 | Celelibi | It's already weird. |
| 19:30.12 | teraflops | ok :P |
| 19:30.19 | Celelibi | (And yes, I have a highlight on "porn".) |
| 19:30.39 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: wtf :) |
| 19:31.08 | markybob | helping a kid protect his porn from mom isn't normal for #debian |
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| 19:31.18 | markybob | plus you're not making much sense |
| 19:31.32 | teraflops | me of he? ;) |
| 19:31.36 | teraflops | or* |
| 19:32.09 | markybob | him :P i know you |
| 19:32.28 | Celelibi | Parents finding kid's porn isn't the end of the world. The generations before survived it. |
| 19:32.52 | teraflops | porn or whatever he said porn I guess it was a joke |
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| 19:34.07 | Jaga-Jaga | markybob: here's the issue. i suspend from the DE, it does ask for a pass when i wake it up. if i suspend enetering a command line on a terminal, it suspends fine, but on thewake up doesnt ask for a password. |
| 19:34.36 | awwal | Trying to find out what (and where) I must modify for change the default title bar & scroll bar blue color of "clearlooks-phenix-theme". Any clue? |
| 19:34.38 | Celelibi | This can be an issue if you leave your laptop unattended in a semi-public place. |
| 19:34.41 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: you mean in tty ot in a vt inside the de? |
| 19:35.41 | teraflops | or* |
| 19:36.07 | jmcnaught | Jaga-Jaga: which DE is this? i just suspended using systemctl on tty1, and on resume gnome was locked |
| 19:36.55 | awwal | thinks that clearlooks-phenix-theme is the best gtk+ theme :P |
| 19:36.57 | teraflops | I guess he does from the DE (vt) |
| 19:37.46 | awwal | I want to change title bar & scroll bar color to grey/black :( |
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| 19:39.09 | teraflops | :S |
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| 19:44.49 | Jaga-Jaga | I've been disconnected, did I miss anything ? |
| 19:45.02 | Celelibi | no |
| 19:45.20 | Celelibi | Well, depends what you got last. |
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| 19:45.54 | jmcnaught | Jaga-Jaga: which DE is this? i just suspended using systemctl on tty1, and on resume gnome was locked |
| 19:46.06 | Jaga-Jaga | jmcnaught: lxde |
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| 19:47.01 | jmcnaught | Jaga-Jaga: i believe the missing ingredient for you is logind |
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| 19:47.41 | Jaga-Jaga | jmcnaught: what do you mean |
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| 19:48.49 | jmcnaught | Jaga-Jaga: i think the reason gnome locked when i suspended in a tty is because it listens to logind |
| 19:49.13 | Jaga-Jaga | jmcnaught: and my lxde does not? |
| 19:49.52 | jmcnaught | Jaga-Jaga: that's what i think. i don't know what level of logind integration lxde in jessie has |
| 19:49.54 | wulllst | anyone here using openbox in wheezy, stretch or sid? |
| 19:50.35 | Jaga-Jaga | is should seek help in lxde channel then |
| 19:51.10 | jmcnaught | Jaga-Jaga: or read the documentation that comes with lxde packages in Debian, maybe there's a note about getting this to work in a README.Debian somewhere |
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| 19:51.56 | Jaga-Jaga | ok |
| 19:52.01 | markybob | !tell wulllst about anyone |
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| 19:53.05 | wulllst | markybob: got it. |
| 19:54.30 | wulllst | i would like to know how the debian menu is correctly implemented into the openbox menu in wheezy, strecht and sid. reason: the is a little uncertainness about a leading slash in openbox' docs (http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Menus#The_Debian_menu) |
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| 19:56.05 | wulllst | if some one, using wheezy, strech or sid with openbox and also the deb menu inside the ob menu could paste his/her menu.xml somewhere for me to have a loog, i'd be quite happy. |
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| 20:15.02 | avallac_h | wulllst: I can post a config from jessie. The part in which you are interested in should be the same: <file>/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml</file> |
| 20:15.32 | wulllst | avallac_h: but that is in the rc.xml |
| 20:15.39 | Jaga-Jaga | Can I make a hotkey with two commands? |
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| 20:16.02 | wulllst | avallac_h: i'm looking for the part in the menu.xml file. but i'm on jessie also and already looked it up. |
| 20:16.42 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: hotkeys depend on your DE/WM |
| 20:16.56 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: lxde |
| 20:17.18 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: wait you mean associate 2 commands to the hotkey action? |
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| 20:18.33 | teraflops | Jaga-Jaga: if yes tell the hotkey to run a script I suppose |
| 20:18.44 | Jaga-Jaga | teraflops: ok |
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| 20:20.18 | avallac_h | wulllst: Is that what you for? http://pastebin.com/KksRc631 |
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| 20:22.29 | wulllst | avallac_h: yes. thanks. i was looking for thr " <menu id="/Debian" />" part. |
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| 20:41.03 | syadmin | Hello. What iso should I choose to have the minimal installation possible that comprehends a desktop interface? |
| 20:41.44 | vf | can anyone here help me with ShoutIRC installation on Debian, also maybe ShoutCast DNAS2 installation and running + Webrequest and AutoDJ |
| 20:41.46 | vf | ^^ |
| 20:42.12 | markybob | syadmin: netinst is generally the best choice. |
| 20:42.49 | extor | is looking for suggestions on how to run a remote X session on a virtual machine, and then VNC to it to use stuff like firefox, openoffice etc |
| 20:43.33 | awwal | markybob, yes, the best in the West :P |
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| 20:44.59 | RoyK | markybob: iirc netinst installs exactly the same as cd1, it just installs from the usb or cd instead of using the network |
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| 20:46.36 | awwal | syadmin, installation comprehending a DE isn't minimal |
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| 20:47.05 | Jaga-Jaga | I have a script called screenshot.sh that i run by a hotkey. How can I find the file itself ? |
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| 20:48.40 | TomTomTosch | Jaga-Jaga: what do you mean? it's where you put it... probably somewhere in your home directory. |
| 20:49.29 | Jaga-Jaga | TomTomTosch: I made it a long time ago. And no i can't see it in the home directory |
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| 20:50.18 | markybob | it's a good thing TomTomTosch is psychic |
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| 20:50.34 | TomTomTosch | Jaga-Jaga: then use find -iname |
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| 20:51.56 | TomTomTosch | Jaga-Jaga: then use find -iname "screenshot.sh" in your case. |
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| 20:52.20 | Jaga-Jaga | TomTomTosch: didnt return anythin |
| 20:52.44 | FinalX | find / -iname '*screenshot*' |
| 20:52.45 | FinalX | ? |
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| 20:53.19 | jml2 | faster to use ~ |
| 20:53.26 | jml2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.06 | markybob | you could just type scrot and be done. no need for a script |
| 20:54.12 | FinalX | true, though sometimes people put them in the weirdest places. plus, if you installed locate, you could use that instead |
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| 20:56.08 | Jaga-Jaga | FinalX: that worked |
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| 21:39.16 | Gerowen | Debian 8 32 bit (32 bit only processor), no backport updates installed, used to work fine, but won't log into a graphical Gnome session, even after making new user accounts or renaming the home folder in order to force a default/new session. Suggestions? |
| 21:39.35 | Gerowen | Graphical login screen appears fine, but when you enter the password, the screen goes black for a second, then kicks back to the login screen as if nothing happened. |
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| 21:45.29 | zykotick9 | Gerowen: from a VT, you might want to confirm "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" is owned by your user, and not root. |
| 21:47.07 | Gerowen | Would .Xauthority be located in the user's home folder? When I try "ls -l /home/user/.Xauthority" I get "No such file or directory" |
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| 21:48.53 | zykotick9 | Gerowen: Gerowen yes, .Xauthority is in users home directory. not sure why you would have one?!?! good luck. |
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| 22:02.38 | awwal | I havGerowen, do you have any gnome extension installed? |
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| 22:07.08 | awwal | :D, mistake :D |
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| 22:09.11 | Storfiskaren | Hey guys, about dist upgrades, it says you shouldn't rely on X sessions managed by xdm, gdm or kdim. Does that mean, I shouldn't perform dist upgrades using a terminal emulator? |
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| 22:13.16 | FinalX | Storfiskaren: You should preferably do it on a console window or at least something that doesn't rely on much (like X, GNOME etc.) |
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| 22:15.15 | Storfiskaren | FinalX: That is, switch to one of the ttys (Ctrl-Alt F1-6) |
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| 22:17.28 | FinalX | Storfiskaren: yeah, that'd be better |
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| 22:19.02 | Storfiskaren | FinalX: Thank you. I have done my upgrades using a terminal emulator so far, but I guess I may have been lucky. |
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| 22:20.25 | FinalX | Storfiskaren: I think they should be fine from any terminal, but it might upgrade things you're using and make stuff act weird. Restarting the window manager would be sufficient in that case, though |
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| 22:38.02 | syadmin | awwal |
| 22:38.27 | syadmin | awwal: you're right sorry. I meant that I cannot "afford" to install a whole DVD :) |
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| 22:47.46 | bryant | herro |
| 22:47.57 | awwal | syadmin, it doesn't matter if you use cd or dvd. if you dont want a desktop environement, just don't select one when prompted for |
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| 22:50.41 | [TheFlash] | what should i do if i want to make a package, but it requires itself as a build-dependency? |
| 22:51.18 | markybob | you look in the mirror and ask yourself wtf you're doing |
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| 22:51.42 | [TheFlash] | markybob: lol, but, in this case it really does |
| 22:51.49 | [TheFlash] | markybob: freebasic can't be compiled without freebasic |
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| 22:52.25 | [TheFlash] | markybob: mainly because it's written in freebasic |
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| 22:54.24 | syadmin | awwal: but will I be able to select one with the netinstall? |
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| 22:55.59 | markybob | syadmin: yes . which is what i told you to use earlier |
| 22:56.03 | bipul | Do anyone in #iptables channel? could he/she invite me there |
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| 22:56.17 | markybob | bipul: it's #netfilter |
| 22:56.40 | awwal | syadmin, yes: lxde, xfce, mate, cinnamon, gnome, kde (increasing size) |
| 22:57.12 | bipul | markybob, So it's name become #netfilter? |
| 22:57.34 | syadmin | awwal: great thanks :) |
| 22:57.37 | markybob | bipul: the channel has always been #netfilter |
| 22:58.12 | bipul | Oh i see, thank you markybob |
| 22:58.36 | awwal | syadmin, cinnamon, gnome & kde are the heaviest |
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| 23:00.13 | syadmin | awwal: xfce should be a good choice for debian server in a VM? |
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| 23:01.41 | awwal | syadmin, I dont run a server. can't commment about that |
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| 23:02.23 | teclo- | a server ? Well, for any server, I use no window manager at all |
| 23:02.29 | markybob | syadmin: a server shouldn't have a DE. but if you must, xfce is great. i use it (though on laptop) |
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| 23:03.41 | syadmin | markybob: I know that it shouldnt but I have some tasks to accomplish that would be pretty faster having a DE... so I was looking for something stable and very lightweight :) |
| 23:03.58 | markybob | syadmin: xfce fits that |
| 23:03.59 | awwal | syadmin, xfce |
| 23:04.06 | syadmin | nice :) thanks guys |
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| 23:32.43 | zerothis | I'm trying to compile moria (source via apt-build). no "configure" and "make" finds no targets' |
| 23:34.15 | markybob | zerothis: you know moria is in debian, right? no need to compile |
| 23:34.34 | zerothis | there is a need if I want to change the source |
| 23:35.00 | markybob | zerothis: so do apt-get source moria then go into the dir it gets then dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot |
| 23:35.09 | johnkeates | moria in debian? does sauron know? |
| 23:35.10 | markybob | the dpkg-buildpackage after you do the changes |
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| 23:40.09 | zerothis | oh, duh, it doesn't compile if I run it in the wrong directory. It was already working, I'm fixed now |
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| 23:56.39 | MaBunny | is there an app for reading epub extension ebooks |
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| 23:59.01 | markybob | MaBunny: fbreader is one |
| 23:59.13 | zerothis | thanks |
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