| 00:00.06 | MaBunny | fbreader...is it available in the repos and does it hav anything to do with facebook??? |
| 00:00.19 | markybob | ,v fbreader |
| 00:00.21 | judd | Package: fbreader on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.10.7dfsg-4; wheezy: 0.12.10dfsg-8; jessie: 0.12.10dfsg-9.1+b1; stretch: 0.12.10dfsg2-1+b1; sid: 0.12.10dfsg2-1+b1 |
| 00:00.23 | markybob | MaBunny: no |
| 00:00.56 | MaBunny | ok thnx :) |
| 00:01.04 | Alt__ | Hi, how i can modify the services at the start of my S.O.? |
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| 00:03.05 | jmcnaught | Alt__: "S.O." ? |
| 00:03.48 | Alt__ | jmcnaught, mistake is O.S |
| 00:03.59 | Alt__ | jmcnaught, Operative System |
| 00:04.14 | MaBunny | also do you guys hav heard of conquest,a space exploration game |
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| 00:04.30 | MaBunny | i was searching their irc chan in freenode |
| 00:05.07 | markybob | MaBunny: i've heard of konquest |
| 00:05.18 | markybob | ,v konquest |
| 00:05.21 | judd | Package: konquest on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-3; jessie: 4:4.14.0-1; stretch: 4:15.08.0-1; sid: 4:15.08.0-2 |
| 00:05.22 | MaBunny | no not the KDE |
| 00:05.25 | MaBunny | one |
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| 00:05.53 | MaBunny | www.radscan.com/conquest.html |
| 00:06.17 | jmcnaught | Alt__: what exactly do you want to change? are you on Debian 8 using systemd? |
| 00:06.21 | MaBunny | thts their official site |
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| 00:07.06 | markybob | MaBunny: no. debian has freeorion. http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 00:07.49 | Alt__ | jmcnaught, just want to stop some services |
| 00:07.59 | MaBunny | ok...but my computer wont support tht...but thnx :D |
| 00:08.52 | jmcnaught | Alt__: if you're using Debian 8 (jessie) than the default init system changed to systemd. You'd use "systemctl disable SERVICE" to disable a service at boot |
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| 00:37.43 | Yaso | 32132 |
| 00:37.44 | Yaso | . |
| 00:37.47 | Yaso | . |
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| 00:42.29 | ryan57 | is checkinstall still the preferred way to build a package from a tarball? |
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| 00:45.03 | abrotman | ryan57: generally, yes |
| 00:45.15 | ryan57 | fair enough |
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| 00:52.21 | jml2 | i always thought tarballs were a sin in debian |
| 00:53.05 | abrotman | not everything is packaged by maintainers, helps to have tools to control that type of installation |
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| 01:21.25 | ryan57 | abrotman: and will this package know to upgrade a package of an older version from the repository? I ask because GMP is being a pain |
| 01:22.51 | ryan57 | abrotman: with the typical 'make install' upgrading gmp.h, but not the environmental variable or whatnot for libgmp, leaving me with a conflict of 6.1/6.0 |
| 01:23.20 | ryan57 | abrotman: ? |
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| 01:43.47 | aypea[2] | so in systemd land, how do I get the dmesg output from bootup? |
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| 01:45.54 | markybob | aypea[2]: you type dmesg |
| 01:46.08 | dvs | too easy |
| 01:46.13 | aypea[2] | markybob: that gets me current dmesg. I want to know what boot-up dmesg was |
| 01:46.28 | aypea[2] | markybob: this used to be stored in /var/log/dmesg but is no longer there |
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| 01:47.53 | markybob | aypea[2]: for that you need journalctl and set storage. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Systemd&redirect=no#Journal |
| 01:48.09 | aypea[2] | has a look-see |
| 01:49.34 | aypea[2] | markybob: wont that be an attempt to store /everything/ since boot? or am I missing something? |
| 01:50.55 | markybob | aypea[2]: you're right. but you can set filters or time limits or whatever you want |
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| 01:51.16 | machinehum | Are some of the Deb repos down? |
| 01:51.17 | markybob | --since "20 min ago" |
| 01:51.31 | dvs | machinehum, some of them, probably. |
| 01:51.34 | machinehum | Err http://ftp3.nrc.ca jessie/main Sources |
| 01:51.36 | machinehum | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.07 | aypea[2] | markybob: hmm. sounds like overkill for what I want. I may have to resort to rc.local here. I just need a static store of a tiny bit of info from the "beginning of time". |
| 01:52.12 | markybob | machinehum: yeah that's down here |
| 01:52.21 | dTal | is http-redir smart enough to avoid failing mirrors? |
| 01:52.40 | dvs | machinehum, use http://httpredir.debian.org instead |
| 01:52.42 | markybob | dTal: no. it kinda sucks |
| 01:53.43 | markybob | i can never find greycat's httpredir factoid when i need it |
| 01:53.47 | dTal | Huh. Well I don't really know how it works, but it works really well for me |
| 01:55.17 | dvs | !jessie source-list |
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| 01:55.27 | dvs | !jessie sources-list |
| 01:55.33 | dvs | hmmmm |
| 01:56.05 | dvs | !jessie sources.list |
| 01:56.05 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 01:56.34 | markybob | that factoid needs to be changed too. |
| 01:56.55 | markybob | to include the fact that httpredir sucks and causes a lot of people problems |
| 01:57.20 | aypea[2] | markybob: thanks for your help, btw. looks like I'll be rolling my own init.d script just to keep things simple. |
| 01:57.36 | aypea[2] | /etc/init.d/bootlogs seems to be permanently masked out. :/ |
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| 02:00.04 | markybob | !httpredir issues |
| 02:00.05 | dpkg | The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code). Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>. |
| 02:00.07 | markybob | found it |
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| 02:00.34 | dvs | !prize markybob |
| 02:00.34 | dpkg | gives markybob a beer. |
| 02:00.55 | markybob | dvs: already had a few, mate. probably why it took me so long to find it ;) |
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| 02:01.04 | dvs | heh |
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| 02:11.51 | markybob | TomTomTosch: do you want a shell account on my server so you can use screen to irc? you join/leave so often :P free of course |
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| 02:15.06 | n_blownapart | hi I'm getting this same problem with duplicates for i386 packages..at least I think its a duplicate problem. my machine is amd64. I'm trying to install haskell. any idea? thanks : https://www.refheap.com/119492 |
| 02:16.02 | markybob | n_blownapart: we don't support ubuntu ppa's. we can't. |
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| 02:16.50 | markybob | n_blownapart: that is what your problem is. that ppa has ubuntu releases, not jessie. so it doesn't work, thus 404. |
| 02:18.03 | n_blownapart | dang thanks markybob |
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| 02:20.28 | n_blownapart | markybob, btw how would I remove the command I did: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:hvr/ghc ? |
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| 02:21.57 | markybob | n_blownapart: it created a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ...just rm it then apt-get update |
| 02:22.47 | n_blownapart | ok markybob thanks a lot |
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| 02:35.22 | TomTomTosch | markybob: thanks man. i have a server though, i'm just too lazy to set it up. i'll do it eventually x) |
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| 02:37.37 | SagelessFox2 | I am looking for a light weight desktop |
| 02:37.49 | SagelessFox2 | Which offers only a few softwares |
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| 02:38.15 | SagelessFox2 | Is there any desktop like that? |
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| 02:38.54 | markybob | SagelessFox2: you need to do your own research because this gets into a touchy topic. i use xfce. it's light and basically just works like i'd expect. |
| 02:39.01 | somiaj | SagelessFox2: lxde calls itself the light desktop. You could try that, xfce4 is kinda light, but you may find you would rather just run a windowmanger and isntall the sfotware you want to |
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| 02:42.04 | SagelessFox2 | somiaj : lxde provides a basket of softwares that I don't need. When I am trying to uninstall a mail client on Debian's lxde , it says I must uninstall the whole environment |
| 02:42.23 | SagelessFox2 | :( |
| 02:42.32 | markybob | SagelessFox2: no it doesnt. it says you need to uninstall the task package |
| 02:42.39 | somiaj | SagelessFox2: you don't have to install the whole enviroment. You just have to remove the meta package (and then change some of the auto flags. |
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| 02:42.58 | somiaj | If you use apt instead of aptitude you can see which packages it wants to autoremove and change the ones you don't want to manual install |
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| 02:43.52 | SagelessFox2 | Hmm.. |
| 02:44.23 | markybob | SagelessFox2: do you not know what task/meta means? because that could clarify things |
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| 02:44.49 | SagelessFox2 | I am searching about them.. |
| 02:44.56 | SagelessFox2 | In my first language |
| 02:45.09 | SagelessFox2 | I don't know those names |
| 02:45.38 | markybob | SagelessFox2: they're kind of fake packages that include a ton of packages just to make things easier to install. you don't need them and they contain nothing. they just bring in things when installed |
| 02:45.57 | markybob | SagelessFox2: when you remove them, the packages they brought in don't get removed |
| 02:46.26 | somiaj | (unless they are marked auto, then without the meta package to hold them in, apt will want to remove them -- aptitude and synamptic will remove them without asking first) |
| 02:46.58 | somiaj | SagelessFox2: the other option is during the isntall don't install the big meta package but only isntall the bits you need. |
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| 02:48.08 | SagelessFox2 | So the meta packages aren't necessary I mean they are not the dependences of lxde? |
| 02:48.25 | somiaj | SagelessFox2: they are just packages that depend on other packages to make install groups of packages easier |
| 02:48.40 | markybob | SagelessFox2: correct |
| 02:49.20 | SagelessFox2 | Thx markybob somiaj :) |
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| 04:19.08 | nix1947 | hello everyone, lsusb command is hangs forever in my machine |
| 04:19.39 | markybob | nix1947: lsb_release -a says what? |
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| 04:26.08 | markybob | nix1947: it's really great when people ask for help and don't answer questions |
| 04:27.09 | nix1947 | markybob: sorry, I just forget to see the client, sorry |
| 04:27.38 | nix1947 | No LSB modules are available. |
| 04:27.38 | nix1947 | Distributor ID: Debian |
| 04:27.38 | nix1947 | Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) |
| 04:27.38 | nix1947 | Release: 8.4 |
| 04:27.38 | nix1947 | Codename: jessie |
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| 04:28.07 | markybob | yeah figures that would happen |
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| 04:28.16 | markybob | smoke break |
| 04:28.17 | nix1947 | markybob: I am using debian 8 |
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| 04:35.09 | nix1947 | markybob: this is the output of lsbrelase -a http://paste.debian.net/695637/ |
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| 04:56.13 | nix1947 | why lsusb hanging forever in my debian 8, does anybody knows about it |
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| 05:04.23 | babilen | n_blownapart: Check your current working directory for the file |
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| 05:33.43 | nix1947 | does anyone know the reason behind lsusb command hanging forever |
| 05:33.56 | nix1947 | in my debian 8 jessie, lsusb commands hangs forever |
| 05:37.05 | pseudo | nix1947: which command? |
| 05:37.26 | nix1947 | pseudo: #lsusb => this command hangs forever in my debian8 |
| 05:37.43 | nix1947 | and my all usb port stop responding, |
| 05:38.44 | pseudo | are you on a vm? |
| 05:39.20 | pseudo | in debian8 with my amd64 its still working |
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| 05:39.58 | pseudo | it detects a all avails usb broadband modem |
| 05:40.18 | pseudo | do u try sudo lsusb? |
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| 05:41.39 | pseudo | hmmmm |
| 05:42.15 | nix1947 | pseudo: I am running as a root user |
| 05:42.42 | pseudo | try start of rebooting a machine? btw issit a server ? |
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| 05:42.47 | nix1947 | when i do #lsusb this commands hangs forever, and I need to restart another terminal to work on. |
| 05:43.06 | nix1947 | pseudo: yes it is a server, I can't do that, |
| 05:43.46 | pseudo | unplug and free the ysb ports and try execute lsusb |
| 05:43.51 | nix1947 | pseudo: I get this kind of wired problems: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.0-1.6/input0, status -108 |
| 05:43.51 | nix1947 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.49 | nix1947 | pseudo: I have done that, but no change |
| 05:45.32 | pseudo | not sure though...wait for the others to response |
| 05:46.35 | nix1947 | pseudo: ok thanks |
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| 05:47.09 | nix1947 | pseudo: do you know how to downgrade the usbutils package, |
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| 05:49.30 | pseudo | nix1947: not sure i'm on default setup.. |
| 05:49.45 | nix1947 | pseudo: ok thanks |
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| 05:52.44 | jmcnaught | nix1947: is the server remote or can you unplug USB devices? |
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| 05:53.16 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: the server is on my server, I can plug usb devices, |
| 05:53.56 | nix1947 | server is on our server room, I can plug usb devices, but none of the usb devices are recognized, even usb mouse and keyboard, I am accessing server remotely, using ssh |
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| 05:54.59 | jmcnaught | is anything plugged in right now? if you can't reboot the server, maybe you can try reloading the kernel modules |
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| 05:56.33 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: yes, which module all kernel modules |
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| 05:57.41 | jmcnaught | nix1947: no not everything. start with "lspci -k | grep -A2 USB" |
| 05:58.49 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/695820/ yes, this is the output, |
| 05:59.28 | jmcnaught | nix1947: take a look at "lsmod | grep ehci" |
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| 06:00.34 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/695821/ these are the following output, |
| 06:01.40 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: when i do lsmod all those modules are already lodaded, |
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| 06:06.36 | jmcnaught | nix1947: if everything USB related is nonresponsive then you could try removing and loading the modules using modprobe, but i don't know what's connected by USB on your system or what the consequences might be. |
| 06:07.18 | slax0r | hello, I am having issues when booting back from hibernation, my previos xrandr setup is not retained, and when I re-run it, my whole system freezes, so I have to "push a pillow over its head" and boot it up normally again, here are some logs: xorg: http://laravel.io/bin/6LQyD messages: http://laravel.io/bin/QNK74 syslog: http://laravel.io/bin/zjqbv and the xranrd command: http://laravel.io/bin/1yDjw |
| 06:07.22 | jmcnaught | nix1947: from your error example it looks to me like some USB device is locked in a state that the kernel can't change for some reason |
| 06:07.54 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: I connected the usb mouse, keyboard, and backupdrive, backupdrive is working but other usb devices is not working, |
| 06:08.09 | slax0r | those logs provide me with very little info, or I am just reading them wrong, is there some other log I can inspect? oh right, kernel is 4.5.0 bpo from jessie backports, and the i5 skylake gfx |
| 06:08.24 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: yes, I have got some message usb 2-1.6: reset full-speed USB device number 32 using ehc from my dmesg output |
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| 06:10.03 | jmcnaught | nix1947: keep researching error message i guess, reloading all the USB modules is not an option while the backup drive is being used |
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| 06:10.24 | nix1947 | jmcnaught: ok thank you for your guidance, I will |
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| 06:37.46 | avis- | what are possible methods for upgrading to a higher kernel in debian without compiling it yourself ? |
| 06:38.00 | avis- | using jessie that is |
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| 06:40.27 | reev | Hii I installled i3 window manager and select i3 from update-alternatives --x-window-manager by default it is metacity but when i restart gdm3 I don't see i3 there, same old setup |
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| 06:40.35 | reev | how can i configure i3 |
| 06:42.42 | babilen | reev: You essentially select it in the list of window managers in gdm3. It should be listed there and there shouldn't be the need to update alternatives at all |
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| 06:44.29 | reev | any command? |
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| 06:52.51 | babilen | reev: You type your user name and hit enter. Then there's a little gear shaped icon, click on it and select your session or, depending on your version, you might have a drop down menu |
| 06:54.03 | babilen | http://lazybrowndog.net/debian/desktop-theme-kit/screenshots/roj-gdm3.png - http://worldofgnome.org/uploads/2014/03/wayland-gdm.png |
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| 07:10.22 | reev | babilen: thanks for that but I had automatic user login enabled in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf which i turned off now but i get login by it |
| 07:10.31 | reev | *still |
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| 07:12.49 | babilen | reev: I have never used that feature, but I guess that you have to somehow "select" your user's favourite session. It probably uses whatever you used last time. |
| 07:13.47 | reev | babilen: okay I see what can i do |
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| 07:15.03 | babilen | But if you turn of automatic login, why is it still turned on? |
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| 08:13.51 | alakx | Hi, how can i check the build version of a installed package via apt-get ? For example for the package openssl ? |
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| 08:20.46 | samneo | for checking installed package dpkg -l openssl |
| 08:21.02 | ochurlaud-work | Hi, I'm trying to find a package. It has the same name in the jessie-backports and jessie repos but I want to use the backport one. |
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| 08:21.31 | ochurlaud-work | By default, the jone from jessie is installed. how can I force the repo to use? |
| 08:21.38 | bhav | samneo hi |
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| 08:21.59 | samneo | apt-get provide information from repository |
| 08:22.01 | samneo | like apt-cache showpkg openssl |
| 08:23.18 | k_sze[work] | How do I figure out how udev has decided to name my tty device? i.e. why is my barcode scanner /dev/ttyACM0, and not some other tty name? |
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| 08:23.41 | ochurlaud-work | samneo: ok, I see that: it's the same info I got from the debian website. but how do I set that during the install? |
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| 08:23.49 | ochurlaud-work | so that it peaks the right one? |
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| 08:24.13 | ochurlaud-work | s/peak/pick |
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| 08:32.55 | ochurlaud-work | samneo: found with the aptitude terminal gui. idk with the command line but it's still ok |
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| 08:34.00 | pingfloyd | ochurlaud-work: apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" |
| 08:34.45 | ochurlaud-work | pingfloyd: that's why the -t option never worked ;) Promise I'll RTFM |
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| 08:34.57 | pingfloyd | ochurlaud-work: what? |
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| 08:35.32 | ochurlaud-work | pingfloyd: I was using aptitude install -t 5.200 package |
| 08:35.45 | ochurlaud-work | with 5.200 the version of the package |
| 08:36.03 | pingfloyd | you don't use version, you use the archive for -t |
| 08:37.01 | pingfloyd | actually maybe you can, but did you try the target release instead? |
| 08:37.24 | pingfloyd | i.e., jessie-backports |
| 08:37.56 | ochurlaud-work | pingfloyd: I don't know what you mean by target release. but anyway, command is perfect. thx |
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| 08:47.26 | pingfloyd | ochurlaud-work: good to hear |
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| 09:13.56 | Arthur_D | could anyone help me with this? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=128394 go to last post to get the gist of the problem |
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| 09:19.17 | phz_ | hi |
| 09:19.47 | phz_ | I have a weight balance connected to a tty (/dev/ttyUSBn);Â I canât have it around every time, so Iâd like to mimic it |
| 09:20.19 | phz_ | is there a way to create a /dev/tty-dummy and have it sending stuff for me to test like a weight balance was plugged in? |
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| 09:23.32 | ancky | phz_: looks like you want a loopback serialport |
| 09:23.48 | phz_ | well |
| 09:23.56 | phz_ | I need to send stuff in a file |
| 09:23.56 | phz_ | like |
| 09:23.58 | phz_ | hm |
| 09:24.00 | phz_ | in a pipe |
| 09:24.14 | phz_ | and have a way to read from that pipe |
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| 09:34.30 | phz_ | is there a way to prevent the echo command from sending EOF? |
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| 09:37.19 | FinalX | not that I know of, no |
| 09:37.27 | FinalX | only EOL, with -n |
| 09:37.43 | phz_ | ah |
| 09:37.50 | phz_ | thatâs boring |
| 09:38.09 | phz_ | I need to find a way to keep the pipe open |
| 09:38.28 | phz_ | Iâm reading in the pipe in python |
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| 09:39.48 | FinalX | not sure how you could go about leaving "echo" running and being able to send more text through the same echo, though. echo would exit and break the pipe |
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| 09:41.32 | sp4nky | any one here is tired of IT life, anyone wants to join Ian and me tonight ? |
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| 09:48.24 | phz_ | FinalX: hm |
| 09:48.40 | phz_ | I guess I should make my own program then |
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| 10:36.30 | aypea[2] | goddamn. how hard can it be to tell systemd not to start X11. :/ |
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| 10:45.50 | Megaf | Hi all, I'm on Debian Jessie Backports, I'd like to install linux-image-4.6.0-trunk-amd64 from experimental, but when I do apt installlinux-image-4.6.0-trunk-amd64 it wants to remove task-desktop task-mate-desktop xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse |
| 10:45.56 | Megaf | and that is not good |
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| 10:47.33 | ChrisWi | having some stange log messages flodding my kernel.log ... http://pastie.org/10848876 ... hope someone can help ... |
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| 10:48.14 | ChrisWi | I talk about 500 - 1000 per second |
| 10:49.27 | Megaf | are you using Xen ChrisWi ? |
| 10:50.44 | plasmoduck | Is there any app to search and play youtube clips in terminal? Audio only obviously. |
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| 10:52.47 | plasmoduck | mpv |
| 10:52.54 | Megaf | I know you can download them with youtube-dl and play with mpv, maybe use a terminal browser like w3m to search for them |
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| 10:53.08 | Megaf | mpv can even play videos in your terminal |
| 10:53.15 | plasmoduck | Really? |
| 10:53.16 | plasmoduck | Wow |
| 10:53.24 | Megaf | but I'm not aware of a console application that can do all 3 things |
| 10:53.43 | plasmoduck | I might code one |
| 10:54.03 | Megaf | shoulnd't be too difficult, we already have all tools, as I just said |
| 10:54.11 | plasmoduck | youterm |
| 10:54.22 | plasmoduck | youtube-terminal |
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| 11:12.41 | ychaouche | Hi #debian |
| 11:12.58 | ychaouche | anyone familiar with this error ? Cancelled or /usr/bin/whiptail execution error(256) |
| 11:13.08 | ychaouche | I get this when I try to run rcconf |
| 11:13.13 | ychaouche | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/6e22ad27178e70c86826585ac8d9778e/raw/9e237905d53507f441e734bf77c56442ebd55939/gistfile1.txt |
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| 11:42.16 | f0f4r | can I update apache2.2 in debian wheezy |
| 11:43.52 | markybob | f0f4r: to what? |
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| 11:46.38 | f0f4r | to apache2.4 for security update |
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| 11:47.08 | markybob | f0f4r: no. apache 2.2 in wheezy gets security updates backported. it's safe |
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| 11:47.21 | phz_ | I donât get it |
| 11:47.34 | phz_ | Iâm using tee to forward stdin into a disk pipe |
| 11:47.37 | phz_ | like |
| 11:47.48 | phz_ | mkfifo ./tty; tee > tty |
| 11:48.04 | phz_ | and Iâm opening that tty pipe in a python application with open('./tty', 'r', 0) |
| 11:48.16 | phz_ | to read what Iâm typing in with a for line in fh |
| 11:48.23 | phz_ | I have to exit the tee program to get input |
| 11:48.25 | phz_ | wtf? |
| 11:48.33 | jelly | is called "named pipe", and the reads will be buffered by default |
| 11:48.47 | phz_ | until it reaches EOF? |
| 11:48.58 | jelly | so if you write more than... 8192 bytes, I think, you'll get a read() out |
| 11:49.02 | phz_ | I tried running it with stdbuf -i0 -o0 -e0 though |
| 11:49.17 | phz_ | jelly: how can I change that behavior? |
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| 11:50.13 | jelly | dunno how that's done in python. Actually I don't even remember if the buffering is write() side or read() side or both |
| 11:50.49 | jelly | https://www.google.com/search?q=read+python+named+pipe+unbuffered ? :-] |
| 11:51.07 | phz_ | http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/mkfifo-invocation.html#mkfifo-invocation |
| 11:51.11 | phz_ | not that much information there |
| 11:51.41 | ChrisWi | Megaf: Yes ... xen. I have 4 hosts ... but I see this only on two. the two with this log flodding have 2 targets (LUN) ... Any idea ? |
| 11:51.50 | phz_ | jelly: |
| 11:51.56 | phz_ | thanks for your help |
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| 11:52.45 | phz_ | nope, still buffering |
| 11:52.46 | phz_ | ffs |
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| 11:54.11 | jelly | phz_: at least one of the results suggests opening in binary mode, 'rb' |
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| 11:55.18 | f0f4r | markybob: I don't see any candidate version https://gist.github.com/c4m4/9acb746fbcb8bc3c19cb18bfc927c8ee |
| 11:56.38 | markybob | f0f4r: you have the latest. you're good. safe. i don't know what you're complaining about. |
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| 11:57.50 | sypher | f0f4r: You already have the latest 2.2 release with backported security fixes. Is there a particular vulnerability that you find hasn't been addressed? |
| 11:58.21 | FinalX | heh, we keep getting mails from worried customers as well, "you're running a very old apache and php! why haven't you upgraded! it's not safe!"... all patches applied, of course. |
| 11:58.41 | FinalX | people just see older versions and immediately assume things are insecure tbh |
| 11:58.57 | f0f4r | I would like to know if there is any cve that my webserver has |
| 11:59.14 | Megaf | ChrisWi, maybe on #Xen ? |
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| 11:59.52 | markybob | f0f4r: you really just can't accept that security gets backported, eh? we're not going to do your meaningless work for you. google it. |
| 12:00.29 | jelly | f0f4r: use security-tracker.debian.org to look up any CVE and see if it's patched |
| 12:00.38 | jelly | also, |
| 12:00.42 | jelly | !debsecan |
| 12:00.42 | dpkg | methinks debsecan is a program that reports security advisories against programs installed on the host, similar to gentoo's glsa-check. See http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/. |
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| 12:01.30 | f0f4r | jelly: ok, I will try to that site |
| 12:02.30 | jelly | f0f4r: if a patch for a known security issue is applied to the version in your debian release, you will usually see it mentioned in the changelog for the package. zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/changelog.Debian.gz |
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| 12:04.45 | jelly | markybob: sometimes an admin has bosses, auditors or customers that want more concrete proof than "<markybob> f0f4r: you have the latest. you're good. safe. i don't know what you're complaining about." |
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| 12:05.51 | jelly | distro's security tracker is a useful reference for such a purpose |
| 12:05.54 | irwiss | does dpkg care if something is a real folder or symlink? i'd like to move /etc/nginx/ to /www/nginx.conf/ and symlink it, it appears to work from nginx perspective, will i get in trouble with dpkg or other pitfalls? |
| 12:06.27 | f0f4r | Using debsecan I don't see any cve for apache |
| 12:06.33 | f0f4r | Using debsecan I don't see any cve for apache |
| 12:07.14 | jelly | irwiss: afair, you can only get in trouble after you purge all the packages that bring /etc/nginx directory, I _think_ that gets the symlink removed |
| 12:07.20 | domth7 | Hi, my browser (Arora, surf, uzbl) crash, and i've found this messege in the term:"Illegal Instruction". My pc is too old, any ideas? |
| 12:07.24 | ChrisWi | Megaf: ok will try ... you have no idea about those messages to get rid off ? |
| 12:07.40 | Megaf | nope |
| 12:08.16 | jelly | f0f4r: that means it's all patched up, as far as debian knows |
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| 12:09.51 | jelly | assuming you're using debsecan right. Mine just found something very very old on this machine... |
| 12:09.53 | jelly | ii apache-common 1.3.34-4.1+etch1 i386 support files for all Apache webservers |
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| 12:12.09 | irwiss | jelly: that makes sense i guess, not planning on purging but backup is on the roadmap once it's settled, thanks |
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| 12:25.47 | AlexPortable | No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources |
| 12:26.00 | AlexPortable | you may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. this is only recommended for experts |
| 12:26.13 | AlexPortable | debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 12:26.38 | digidog | Hi hello everyone, I am sort of confused: Laptop ACER V3 772G suddenly reboots without warning randomly with Debian 8 installed, no matter which application runs or if CPU etc is high or not. |
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| 12:28.14 | ChrisH | digidog: mcelog installed? That might help detecting a HW issue. Sounds more like a HW problem to me. |
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| 12:33.27 | cruncher | digidog, and it worked well before? |
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| 12:35.14 | cruncher | or did you just install debian? |
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| 12:36.23 | digidog | ChrisH: cruncher: hard to say, its a laptop I have prepared for somebody who didnt used it a lot. now it stands here and I test it and it seems sth wrong. cpu goes up 72% when I try to remove hplip. maybe thats the devil |
| 12:37.10 | digidog | shutdown mostly is regarding overhead (security stop) |
| 12:37.28 | cruncher | so you just installed it, it works, but has high cpu usage, and suddenly reboots (not poweroff) |
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| 12:39.25 | cruncher | digidog, overhead? you mean overheat? so it turns off, not reboots |
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| 12:39.46 | digidog | cruncher: Isry, yes I was referring to heat. |
| 12:40.01 | cruncher | then i guess its a hw problem |
| 12:40.02 | digidog | cruncher: it sometomes shuts down, sometimes reboots |
| 12:40.24 | digidog | cruncher: I have remove hplip now and now cpu usage goes down to 55 |
| 12:40.36 | digidog | remove(d) |
| 12:40.45 | cruncher | so what is using the cpu? |
| 12:41.15 | cruncher | but basically its clear, somethig is using the cpu, it gets hot, and as it cant cool it enough it turns off |
| 12:41.21 | cruncher | basically you have 2 problems |
| 12:41.26 | digidog | cruncher: hplip 12 %. maybe its more obvious today since here are 30 degress so the room is much warmer |
| 12:42.00 | cruncher | yes, that too :) if you would sit in alaska it wouldnt happen probably :P |
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| 12:42.14 | digidog | cruncher: now it runs normal after removing hplip -> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html |
| 12:42.23 | digidog | cruncher: :-D |
| 12:42.45 | cruncher | well, if you identified hplip as the culprit... |
| 12:43.09 | cruncher | im particularly interested because i was thinking to get the E5-773 laptop, and was curious how it works with debian |
| 12:43.18 | digidog | cruncher: I agree with you, I think also there are more then one issue. maybe hplip messed up somehow and eats a lot, but thats with 12% not issue enogh for the overheat actually |
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| 12:44.38 | Trieste | hey, /proc/cpuinfo says both cores of my cpu are running at around 230MHz (this is a 3.3GHz machine at full load) - what could this mean? |
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| 12:45.21 | digidog | cruncher: any good hw test utisl for debian to check if all cores runs ok etc ? |
| 12:45.27 | markybob | it means it's on |
| 12:45.42 | Trieste | markybob: but why is the frequency so low? |
| 12:45.44 | dTal | I was gonna say that they've been clocked down for powersave, but that seems unusually low |
| 12:45.51 | markybob | i have chrome alone using 26% right now |
| 12:46.03 | Trieste | markybob: the cores themselves are running at 230 MHz |
| 12:47.07 | Trieste | dTal: I was thinking it's hardware failure, as I do recall a weird message about overheating appearing once in dmesg - but not since, and I've even cleaned the fans, and changed nothing in BIOS... |
| 12:47.17 | markybob | i've never seen that. the computer would always shut itself off if it got so hot it had to run that slowly |
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| 12:48.07 | cruncher | digidog, did you try what ChrisH suggested? |
| 12:48.44 | dTal | Trieste: if you switch your CPU governor to "Performace" does it go to full speed? |
| 12:48.56 | dTal | maybe your CPU just supports unusually low clock speeds |
| 12:49.00 | Trieste | dTal: how would I do that? |
| 12:49.52 | Trieste | (by the way, the load is roughly about at 2.5) |
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| 12:50.45 | dTal | depends on your chipset, usually you can cat something somewhere in /sys |
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| 12:51.15 | digidog | cruncher: sry, that was run out of the view here |
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| 12:51.45 | digidog | ChrisH: sry, I didn't kep in mind your answer. I will check |
| 12:51.58 | Trieste | ooh, so there is something interesting in dmesg after all |
| 12:52.23 | Trieste | "Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled" and "Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled" |
| 12:52.38 | Trieste | but what the heck |
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| 12:53.22 | cruncher | digidog, you could try the intel processor diagnostic tool from Intel |
| 12:53.24 | cruncher | http://www.tcsscreening.com/files/users/IPDT_LiveUSB/index.html |
| 12:53.29 | cruncher | but i dont know if it works with debian |
| 12:53.48 | cruncher | but honestly i doubt the cpu is "broken" |
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| 12:55.43 | javier_ | Hace dÃas que no puedo conectarme a ddtp.debian.net, el sitio de traducción de la descripción de paquetes de Debian. |
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| 12:56.08 | markybob | !es |
| 12:56.08 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
| 12:56.16 | javier_ | Sorry, this is the general channel, not the spanish one |
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| 12:56.38 | javier_ | I'm sorry. |
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| 12:58.12 | javier_ | These days, the package tranlation site seems to be off line. Anybody knows why? |
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| 13:02.14 | telecity | mail question: what if I just want to send via CLI a few logging-related mails to an external mailbox, nothing more.. as minimalistic as possible - what can I use? |
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| 13:10.37 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 13:10.58 | gypsymauro | there is a way to inver the priority of the routing based on interfaces? |
| 13:11.24 | gypsymauro | I've an openvpn server, but I found that the eth0's routes are displayed before the tun0 ones |
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| 13:14.17 | darxmurf | anybody for a quick mysql help ? |
| 13:14.49 | ChrisH | !ask |
| 13:14.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 13:15.31 | darxmurf | I have mysql entries like "/This is my text 2015/picture.jpg" and I want to turn it like "/2015 This is my text/picture.jpg" |
| 13:15.41 | darxmurf | and of course I have this from 2005 to 2015 |
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| 13:16.04 | darxmurf | is there any regex+back ref. tools in mysql ? |
| 13:16.32 | abrotman | darxmurf: thought about asking .. #mysql ? |
| 13:16.33 | FinalX | UPDATE sometable SET somefield=REPLACE(somefield,'/xxx//','/yyy/'); |
| 13:16.42 | darxmurf | yep |
| 13:16.56 | darxmurf | but I have lots of different "text" before the year |
| 13:17.08 | darxmurf | abrotman: yep :) I'll try |
| 13:17.13 | petn-randall | darxmurf: You can probably build a (Perl) script that does that. Are you using some kind of photo manager? Most allow bulk moving files via plugin. |
| 13:17.42 | darxmurf | yep it's a gallery tool for WP but it's not managing files quite well O |
| 13:17.43 | darxmurf | Oo |
| 13:17.55 | darxmurf | if you rename a folder it does not change the mysql entries \o/ |
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| 13:18.05 | defanor | telecity: there are programs such as sSMTP if you want to use a remote server, and postfix or exim otherwise. or even mbsync, if you want to put letters in a remote mailbox via imap |
| 13:18.24 | FinalX | darxmurf: worst case scenario, if it really is just a wordpress database, perhaps just dump it, do it with commandline tools like sed, and then re-read the dump back in? |
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| 13:19.14 | telecity | defanor: yup, remote-only |
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| 13:19.42 | darxmurf | FinalX: yep I was thinking about that too :) |
| 13:19.52 | darxmurf | but will check in mysql tools before |
| 13:20.21 | telecity | defanor: what about nullmailer? |
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| 13:20.27 | darxmurf | but it will probably quite easier to do that with SED |
| 13:20.27 | darxmurf | :D |
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| 13:21.07 | telecity | darxmurf: so what's stopping you to do dump the db, purge and then re-add after seding? |
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| 13:21.13 | FinalX | yeah.. :) and this also confirms that you can't do regex, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10465288/mysql-update-with-regexp |
| 13:21.17 | FinalX | telecity: I just said that xD |
| 13:21.33 | telecity | FinalX: sorry didn't pay attention |
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| 13:22.33 | defanor | telecity: idk, haven't tried it |
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| 13:22.39 | darxmurf | okay apparently there is no regex replace tools in mysql, let's go for the dump :) |
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| 13:22.49 | j`ey | hi, Im in the installer, and dropped to the ash shell. i'm trying to mount my hard disk, but just keep getting "file or directory not found" errors from mount |
| 13:22.52 | j`ey | any ideas? |
| 13:23.03 | j`ey | (I have mkdir /mnt/x, so it does exist) |
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| 13:23.57 | telecity | j`ey: you're trying to mount a partition or the whole disk? |
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| 13:24.07 | j`ey | partition |
| 13:24.19 | telecity | j`ey: does it show up on 'blkid' or 'lsblk'? |
| 13:24.39 | j`ey | yep |
| 13:24.58 | telecity | j`ey: with the correct fs type? |
| 13:25.00 | dvs | both? |
| 13:25.11 | j`ey | blkid, I dont have lsblk |
| 13:25.24 | j`ey | telecity: yeah, ext4 |
| 13:25.52 | telecity | wu |
| 13:25.53 | telecity | wut |
| 13:25.59 | telecity | aren't they both from "util-linux" |
| 13:26.30 | telecity | file -s "full-path" |
| 13:26.31 | j`ey | I guess blkid might be from busybox? |
| 13:26.54 | jelly | telecity: "in the installer" |
| 13:27.29 | telecity | jelly: indeed i missed that part |
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| 13:27.51 | AlexPortable | how to install linux kernel? |
| 13:27.56 | AlexPortable | apt-get ? |
| 13:28.03 | naptastic | apt-get install linux-image |
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| 13:28.10 | naptastic | I think |
| 13:28.14 | fireba11 | (or just "apt" on jessie) |
| 13:28.27 | naptastic | but if you're already running Debian, you already have a kernel installed :) |
| 13:28.30 | FinalX | ...I couldn't get used to "just apt" :) |
| 13:28.37 | naptastic | fireba11, what?? OMG |
| 13:28.48 | fireba11 | FinalX: ah well ... it got a progess bar(tm) :-D |
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| 13:28.54 | FinalX | :D |
| 13:29.00 | telecity | j`ey: try "file -s" with proceeding full path to the disk/part |
| 13:29.14 | AlexPortable | naptastic: No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources. you may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. this is only recommended for experts |
| 13:29.15 | FinalX | it's more that apt-get is kinda hardwired when I'm typing |
| 13:29.16 | j`ey | I dont have "file" :( |
| 13:29.50 | AlexPortable | Package linux-image is not avaiiable, but is referred to by another package |
| 13:29.50 | FinalX | so much that if I need to use apt-cache, I already typed apt-get and then have to backspace 4 times and type cache ;) |
| 13:29.53 | naptastic | FinalX, yep... and RHEL / CentOS are going from yum -> dnf in a couple of years... |
| 13:29.56 | AlexPortable | e: package linux-image has no intallation candidate |
| 13:30.12 | digidog | cruncher: thanks for all the cues. well yeah I doubt its the cpu two. but I will try more hw test utils and check if anything intersting pops up and let you know (because of ACER) |
| 13:30.12 | fireba11 | FinalX: also it seems you still need things like apt-cache |
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| 13:30.29 | fireba11 | AlexPortable: how did you manage that? |
| 13:30.34 | naptastic | AlexPortable, what version of Debian is this? `cat /etc/debian_version` |
| 13:30.41 | AlexPortable | debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 13:30.43 | naptastic | also, yeah, what did you do? :| |
| 13:30.47 | naptastic | ok |
| 13:30.50 | AlexPortable | i installed it |
| 13:30.55 | AlexPortable | and it said this |
| 13:30.55 | FinalX | oops, which reminds me, I have to send an e-mail back to the guy who helped me when I e-mailed the APT-maintainers.. I'm awful, didn't even thank him o.O |
| 13:30.58 | telecity | j`ey: oh well. does "dmesg" show you any hints? |
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| 13:31.09 | gypsymauro | it seems that newver versions of debian has changed rourint priority ? on older debian I've 192.168.1.0 routing then 0.0.0.0 on newer I've before 0.0.0.0 then 192.168.1.0, how can I change this behavioour? |
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| 13:31.40 | j`ey | telecity: nope :( |
| 13:31.53 | naptastic | AlexPortable, what's the output of `uname -a` ? |
| 13:31.54 | telecity | j`ey: strace the mount? idk |
| 13:32.16 | j`ey | no strace either :P |
| 13:32.22 | AlexPortable | naptastic linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 smp debian 3.16.7-ckt25-1 (2016-03-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 13:32.23 | defanor | j`ey: stat? ls? |
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| 13:32.49 | j`ey | ls works, and shows both the /dev/sda1 and /mnt/x exist |
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| 13:33.07 | naptastic | AlexPortable, ok, try `apt install linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64` |
| 13:33.20 | fireba11 | naptastic: not that good an idea |
| 13:33.25 | AlexPortable | thanks that worked |
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| 13:33.30 | naptastic | O_O |
| 13:33.31 | dvs | too late |
| 13:33.43 | telecity | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/x -> "no such file or directory"? |
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| 13:33.47 | telecity | j`ey: |
| 13:33.54 | AlexPortable | telecity: does x exists? |
| 13:34.03 | j`ey | telecity: yes |
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| 13:34.26 | fireba11 | AlexPortable: naptastic: you want some soet of meta package usually like linux-image-amd64 |
| 13:34.30 | j`ey | "mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/x failed: no such file or directory" |
| 13:34.51 | telecity | j`ey: can you cd to /mnt/x? |
| 13:35.05 | \renaud | is there still a nspluginwrapper package somewhere? Or is there any other way to run 32bit java app in 64bit OS? |
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| 13:35.18 | j`ey | telecity: yup |
| 13:35.29 | FinalX | fireba11: that progress bar is creeping me out |
| 13:35.40 | FinalX | just gave it a go :) |
| 13:35.42 | fireba11 | FinalX: :-D |
| 13:35.48 | telecity | j`ey: cat < /dev/sda1 > /tmp/a0 = and this works? |
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| 13:36.53 | j`ey | that did work (except it failed with run out of space on device error) |
| 13:37.06 | fireba11 | FinalX: there are some other new things like apt update reports back if there are things you could upgrade |
| 13:37.10 | telecity | j`ey: yea should've used /dev/null.. my bad |
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| 13:37.37 | FinalX | fireba11: yeah, I noticed, pretty sweet. then again, it's only for my own server.. most servers are managed through puppet with unattended upgrades and all, too :) |
| 13:37.52 | telecity | j`ey: i think you should message "jelly", i'm useless further |
| 13:37.54 | j`ey | telecity: going to reboot, think that messed stuff up |
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| 13:39.08 | fireba11 | FinalX: depends. i got 7 debian servers but all with very different tasks. i upgrade manually because some upgrades might require a restart of a 3rd party application of a maintenance window. puppet is for several servers with similar or identical tasks |
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| 13:40.32 | FinalX | sure, we have that too, but most things can be upgraded without any issue |
| 13:40.46 | FinalX | database software i won't, obviously |
| 13:41.02 | FinalX | openssh/openssl etc however can and should be upgraded asap |
| 13:41.41 | defanor | j`ey: is that device listed in fstab? |
| 13:42.01 | j`ey | I would guess not, since it's in the installer |
| 13:42.06 | AlexPortable | fireba11: can't i install that after reboot? |
| 13:42.08 | AlexPortable | or best to just reinstall now |
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| 13:44.26 | dvs | AlexPortable, reinstall? You can install linux-image-amd64 and it won't interfere with anything |
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| 13:44.33 | AlexPortable | well i have now the special package |
| 13:44.34 | fireba11 | AlexPortable: it's not THAT important ... it just will prevent your kernel from getting dist-upgraded with the newxt new release automatically if you amnually install a specific kernel |
| 13:44.35 | AlexPortable | should i remove it again? |
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| 13:44.50 | AlexPortable | oh |
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| 13:47.35 | darxmurf | okay, mysqldump + vim = yay |
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| 13:47.43 | telecity | darxmurf: vim? |
| 13:47.57 | petn-randall | telecity: vim can do regex replaces. |
| 13:48.03 | FinalX | vim can do sed stuff fine, too :) |
| 13:48.09 | telecity | petn-randall: yes, but I was under the impression he'd go for sed |
| 13:48.12 | FinalX | arguably easier than with sed tbh |
| 13:48.17 | FinalX | heh, me too |
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| 14:04.57 | darxmurf | telecity: |
| 14:05.33 | darxmurf | telecity: yep, simple: s,'/\([^/]*\) \(20[0-9]\{2\}\)/,'/\2 \1/,g |
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| 14:11.41 | digidog | how can I remove packages whithout the automatically remove of other packages and the new packages which try to replace its functionality? |
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| 14:15.16 | digidog | when I try to remove firefox-ESR, ikt gets weird and want to install many kde components o.@ |
| 14:16.11 | petn-randall | digidog: Which release are you running? |
| 14:16.26 | digidog | petn-randall: Debian 8 stretch |
| 14:16.50 | petn-randall | digidog: Debian 8 is jessie, testing is stretch. |
| 14:17.00 | digidog | petn-randall: *facepalm* |
| 14:17.05 | digidog | yeah you are right ... |
| 14:17.22 | digidog | moment, let me check again, since its another machine I amintain for sb |
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| 14:18.02 | digidog | petn-randall: its stretch ... O.M.G |
| 14:18.20 | petn-randall | digidog: You could also paste the output of 'apt-cache policy' to http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:18.44 | digidog | petn-randall: ok, I'll do it ... |
| 14:19.20 | digidog | petn-randall: is ix.io ok too ? I can'T open a browser on that machine atm |
| 14:19.42 | digidog | petn-randall: http://ix.io/ |
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| 14:28.46 | [sr] | howdy |
| 14:29.03 | [sr] | i have two debian machines that when i update kernel to +4.x |
| 14:29.13 | [sr] | it hangs on boot in services like bind |
| 14:29.21 | [sr] | very wierd, anyone has a clue on that? |
| 14:29.45 | [sr] | i have udev/kmod/init scripts, and almost all packages on the system updated |
| 14:29.56 | [sr] | very odd, never happened such thing to me |
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| 14:41.13 | petn-randall | [sr]: Which release are you running on both of them? |
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| 14:41.37 | [sr] | petn-randall: sid |
| 14:41.53 | petn-randall | [sr]: What CPUs do they have? |
| 14:42.00 | [sr] | it's something only with this two machines, all others work OK |
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| 14:42.13 | petn-randall | [sr]: i386 arch by any chance? |
| 14:42.14 | [sr] | petn-randall: hyper-V VM's |
| 14:42.30 | [sr] | petn-randall: amd arch |
| 14:43.18 | petn-randall | [sr]: You can add remove 'quiet splash' from the kernel parameter line in grub, maybe that will show you some more information. |
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| 14:44.03 | [sr] | petn-randall: im using lilo, no splash, i see all messages |
| 14:44.11 | petn-randall | [sr]: Also check /var/log/daemon.log for any errors. And 'systemd-analyze critical-chain' to check where exactly it hangs. |
| 14:44.17 | [sr] | no splash or framebuffer or so |
| 14:44.40 | petn-randall | [sr]: Since most things are started in parallel, it may seem that it hangs because of A, but in reality it's because of B. |
| 14:45.12 | [sr] | can be a fact |
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| 14:49.03 | defanor | i consider using debian packages to deploy/update programs at work, but those programs usually require packages that are either not present or too old in debian repositories, so they use language-dependent package managers. some of those are compiled and linked statically with the libraries, and others are interpreted. should i just hack things in the `rules` file, is there a better way, or is it a bad idea to use deb packages for that? |
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| 14:50.20 | LowValueTarget | I am having issues in a wheezy install where titlebar and title fonts are showing as rectangle boxes. Obviously it seems like a fonts issue or a locale issue, but nothing I've done seems to fix it. Anyone have experience with this issue? |
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| 14:51.48 | petn-randall | defanor: I try to use Debian packages where I can, simply because I don't have to track security updates in those packages. If you can't use them, because they're too old or built with different flags than you need, you have to weave them into the deployment part of your system. There's really no general best practice for that, as every language cooks their own stuff. |
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| 14:51.57 | defanor | LowValueTarget: try to set another font in your window manager, and/or check its logs, maybe |
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| 14:52.09 | LowValueTarget | defanor: i've done that |
| 14:52.12 | LowValueTarget | nothing of note in the logs |
| 14:52.40 | LowValueTarget | Also, if it helps, this just started happening on a 6-month old install |
| 14:54.11 | petn-randall | LowValueTarget: Can you show us the output of 'apt-cache policy' on http://paste.debian.net? |
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| 14:55.15 | digidog | petn-randall: http://ix.io/KpL (Debian stretch, Laptop ACER V3 722G, apt-get --purge remove firefox*) |
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| 14:55.48 | defanor | petn-randall: i guess i'll try and see how it'll work (and how cumbersome it'll be) then. thanks |
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| 14:56.07 | LowValueTarget | petn-randall: Sure thing. It's actually a Kali Linux install. https://paste.debian.net/696951/ |
| 14:56.31 | petn-randall | LowValueTarget: In that case you can ask again in the proper channel. |
| 14:56.33 | petn-randall | !kali |
| 14:56.33 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 14:56.58 | petn-randall | LowValueTarget: AFAIR they now have a rolling release, so it's bound to run into problems all the time. |
| 14:57.07 | LowValueTarget | makes sense |
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| 14:57.26 | LowValueTarget | I should probably run debian proper and make my own tools repo ;) |
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| 14:58.00 | petn-randall | LowValueTarget: I never understand why people install Kali as their base system. Every person needing Kali and being of sound mind uses it in a VM. |
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| 14:58.17 | LowValueTarget | It's a secondary system petn-randall. My second laptop |
| 14:58.25 | shiki | can I install the libpurple telegram plugin on Debian? |
| 14:58.31 | LowValueTarget | I actually use it as intended, as my job requires it |
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| 14:59.53 | LowValueTarget | I only use the machine in engagements, and I prefer direct access to the hardware |
| 15:00.00 | digidog | how to remove packages without being forced to install alternative packages in terminal ? |
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| 15:01.43 | LowValueTarget | petn-randall: and I guess my google fu failed me |
| 15:01.44 | LowValueTarget | https://bugs.kali.org/view.php?id=3295 |
| 15:01.48 | petn-randall | digidog: testing/sid are support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, let's continue discussing it there. |
| 15:02.07 | shiki | digidog: --no-install-recommends or apt-get download and dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/... |
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| 15:02.19 | petn-randall | LowValueTarget: As I said, it's not a Debian issue, so please ask in #kali. |
| 15:02.19 | digidog | petn-randall: sure. thank you. I am already over there. |
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| 15:02.40 | LowValueTarget | petn-randall: not asking anymore |
| 15:02.44 | LowValueTarget | but i can take a hint |
| 15:02.51 | LowValueTarget | have a good one -- peace |
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| 15:06.37 | \renaud | is there a way to run a 32 bit java plugin with a 64 bit debian? |
| 15:08.32 | petn-randall | \renaud: You can install the 32 bit libraries needed for that. |
| 15:08.40 | petn-randall | !foreign arch |
| 15:08.47 | \renaud | but then you still have a 64 bit browser |
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| 15:09.00 | petn-randall | \renaud: Probably not, depends on the details. |
| 15:09.11 | petn-randall | \renaud: Is there a reason you want to install a 32 bit java? |
| 15:09.12 | parcs | uh oh, apt wants to remove libc6 |
| 15:09.21 | \renaud | petn-randall: yes, I need to run webex |
| 15:09.26 | FinalX | who would have a need for that! |
| 15:09.28 | nkuttler | !tell parcs about bat |
| 15:09.30 | \renaud | and webex doesn't support 64 bit java |
| 15:10.02 | nkuttler | can't you just install a 32bit browser as well? |
| 15:10.21 | \renaud | then how do I choose to launch the 32 bit browser for webex and not for the rest? |
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| 15:10.51 | nkuttler | not sure you can install both at the same time, but if you can just use the full path.. |
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| 15:11.04 | \renaud | won't they have both the same name? |
| 15:11.10 | nkuttler | probably |
| 15:11.14 | \renaud | if I do apt-get install iceweasel:i386 |
| 15:11.29 | \renaud | it will conflict with iceweasel:amd64 |
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| 15:11.55 | nkuttler | yeah, so pick one. or use a vm, or a different browser, or avoid such software.. |
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| 15:12.16 | \renaud | I cannot avoid that software, and I am running in a VM atm, but I expected a cleaner solution |
| 15:12.25 | FinalX | or bootstrap i386 debian into a dir and run it chrooted :P |
| 15:13.06 | \renaud | at some point, there was nspluginwrapper which allowed to run 32bit java in 64 bit proxy, but the package deosn't exist anymore |
| 15:13.17 | nkuttler | fwiw, my first search result for that has a guide for ubuntu that only installs a few 32bit libs |
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| 15:13.55 | \renaud | s/proxy/browser/ |
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| 15:15.03 | \renaud | I tried to install the 32bit libs in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and then start it, but that fails |
| 15:15.37 | \renaud | (and yes, I did ldconfig) |
| 15:16.27 | FinalX | what about libc6-i386 ? |
| 15:16.35 | FinalX | or was that the one you tried? |
| 15:16.59 | \renaud | I did that, and also installed all the java libss listed in the ldd of webex |
| 15:17.03 | FinalX | ah |
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| 15:17.21 | \renaud | and compiling the old nspluginwrapper fails on me too |
| 15:17.23 | petn-randall | \renaud: It's probably easier and less error prone to just maintain a 32-bit chroot with the necessary packages. |
| 15:17.23 | \renaud | //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgthread-2.0.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line |
| 15:17.41 | \renaud | yes, I think it's the only way to go |
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| 15:17.59 | petn-randall | \renaud: You just need the 32 bit browser installed, it can run under your (non-chrooted) X11. |
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| 15:18.31 | \renaud | wasn't there a package to populate a chroot? |
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| 15:21.00 | \renaud | debootstrap |
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| 15:28.56 | PrimalHunter | Hi, a short question as I'm not entirely sure how it's handled. If you login via SSH using only a key file does that mean the user you're logging in with doesn't have a password? |
| 15:29.15 | FinalX | no, they are seperate |
| 15:29.31 | FinalX | a user can have a password, and have an authorized ssh key, or both, or neither |
| 15:30.08 | FinalX | password authentication can be disabled in the ssh daemon, so only authorized ssh key auth is allowed, or vice versa, or to allow both |
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| 15:33.30 | telecity | don't forget to disable ChallengeResponse, too |
| 15:33.36 | telecity | if you're going for the password |
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| 15:34.57 | PrimalHunter | Ok. So that part should be ok. The real issue I'm working on is understanding the mail-server configuration. As much as it shames me it seems like someone is trying to send spam using my mail server and i can't really tell why (yet). |
| 15:35.54 | telecity | PrimalHunter: misconfiguration sounds like a likely scenario |
| 15:36.13 | telecity | PrimalHunter: which MTA? |
| 15:37.28 | PrimalHunter | Probably, yes. it's postfix and I am seeing some Probably. "Relay access denied;" messages. I've pretty much tracked it down to a line which looks like a valid login. The quesiton is if for some reason the password isn't checked for the SMTP access or if the password for that account was leaked somehow. Both cases are pretty ... bad. |
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| 15:38.05 | petn-randall | telecity: Either your MTA is set up as an open relay (naughty!), or some user space program is sending them (you may have some broken web application running on it?), or you've got a trojan. |
| 15:38.18 | petn-randall | PrimalHunter: Either your MTA is set up as an open relay (naughty!), or some user space program is sending them (you may have some broken web application running on it?), or you've got a trojan. |
| 15:38.24 | petn-randall | telecity: sorry, wrong autocomplete |
| 15:38.30 | telecity | petn-randall: np |
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| 15:39.28 | PrimalHunter | Meh... all pretty bad. I guess it's PW changeing time ... for all accounts on that server. Thanks for hints and helping clearing it up so quickly. :) |
| 15:39.28 | petn-randall | PrimalHunter: Check /var/log/mail.log where the actual spam comes from. You can also paste those lines + some context to http://paste.debian.net for us to see. |
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| 15:39.53 | petn-randall | PrimalHunter: Do you know it's from any user on that system? |
| 15:40.03 | telecity | PrimalHunter: you asked a question about passwords at first.. using PAM for your MTA? |
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| 15:40.25 | abrotman | PrimalHunter: you can have postfix use a different mechanism |
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| 15:43.18 | PrimalHunter | Those are the parts in mail.log that I found that show when the spam starts http://paste.debian.net/hidden/98011cf2/ |
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| 15:48.48 | PrimalHunter | And this would be my current postfix config. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bd8faa95/ |
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| 15:49.16 | petn-randall | PrimalHunter: Looks like your SASL setup is somehow broken. Is seth@sturdy-byte.net a valid user on that system? |
| 15:49.28 | PrimalHunter | yes, it would be |
| 15:49.56 | petn-randall | PrimalHunter: Looks like that user's password was somehow retrieved. Should this user be allowed to send mail? |
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| 15:51.24 | PrimalHunter | yes, I guess one of the other services had to be compromised than. At least I never changed the password after generting the user. That is concerning. *sigh* A lot of work is waiting. \o/ |
| 15:53.53 | PrimalHunter | Thanks for all the help and see you all later. Havea nice day! |
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| 15:59.35 | petn-randall | PrimalHunter: Maybe it got brute-forced? |
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| 16:17.31 | antzero | How can I set custom DPI for different applications (and not system-wide) ? |
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| 16:22.10 | FinalX | ugh, that moment where you're in mc moving files over and you accidentally cancel it when a 20 GB file is nearly done copying over. |
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| 16:24.54 | han-solo | mc? |
| 16:25.28 | FinalX | Midnight Commander :) |
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| 16:36.51 | cruncher | FinalX, what is with that moment? i hope you know you can resume file copying |
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| 16:37.07 | cruncher | of course only if oyu pressed "keep" the partially copied file |
| 16:37.17 | cruncher | ;-) |
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| 16:38.09 | Dean-b | Upgrading to unstable. Shitting it. Any nightmares I shoud be prepared for? |
| 16:38.32 | markybob | Dean-b: we don't support unstable. read /topic |
| 16:38.37 | cruncher | Dean-b, if its a fresh install there shouldnt be any problems |
| 16:38.38 | zykotick9 | Dean-b: s/Upgrading/Downgrading/ and i'd agree... |
| 16:38.58 | cruncher | just a little info, but as markybob says, not supported here |
| 16:39.13 | markybob | !debian-next |
| 16:39.13 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 16:39.23 | Dean-b | Not asking for support. I'm pretty used to debian and linux in general. Just wondering if i've opened a can of worms :P . |
| 16:39.56 | markybob | Dean-b: that's support. we don't know what's going on with sid because we don't use it. so you go to the proper channel and ask them |
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| 16:41.18 | Dean-b | Awh balls not unstable. I'm upgrading to testing. Stretch not sid. |
| 16:41.30 | Dean-b | Not need to be so uppity in any case. |
| 16:41.53 | markybob | Dean-b: did you not read? /topic or what the bot said? stretch support is also not here |
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| 16:45.17 | Dean-b | nce again I do not require support. Asking you if you have ever tied your shoes is not the same as asking you to tie mine. |
| 16:46.19 | markybob | Dean-b: i've used testing before and it's been fine. i've used before and it's utterly broken everything. i cant tell you it's current state. they can. |
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| 16:47.29 | zinx | it's very likely that you should not be running testing |
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| 16:47.45 | zinx | if you want bleeding edge, go with sid. if you want something that won't break, go with stable |
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| 16:47.57 | markybob | s/likely/obvious |
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| 16:50.40 | teraflops | zinx: sid is not bleeding edge ... |
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| 16:50.53 | zinx | teraflops: it's as bleeding as debian gets |
| 16:51.02 | markybob | no it's not |
| 16:51.16 | markybob | but please god teraflops don't mention what is. we don't need that :/ |
| 16:51.17 | zinx | markybob: you're thinking of something that's not debian. |
| 16:51.20 | eladhen_ | It makes you bleed |
| 16:51.41 | teraflops | markybob: it's ok, just pointing a fact |
| 16:51.59 | zinx | anyway, the other one is reserved for things that are known to be broken :P |
| 16:52.22 | zinx | (maybe for a different arch, but w/e) |
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| 16:53.54 | cruncher | would have liked to hear what would be... |
| 16:54.24 | Nitori | hm, something messed up my keyboard layout... "arrow up" is suddenly "print"... trying to go up in history makes my DE want to take a screenshot |
| 16:54.56 | Nitori | wondering if someone had a similar issue with debian testing |
| 16:55.13 | markybob | how many times in five minutes |
| 16:55.26 | markybob | testing suppport is on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 16:56.53 | Nitori | thanks |
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| 17:02.14 | FinalX | cruncher: yeah, if you can hit the Keep, sure, but I had latency issues on the train and hit enter twice in the wrong window, default is on Delete.. :P |
| 17:02.41 | FinalX | screen window, that is |
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| 17:08.18 | radw | hello, I continue having issues mouting a nfs share from debian to a freenfs server |
| 17:09.02 | radw | as you can see, the server give me rcpinfo, but the authentication failed (even there isnt any in the server): https://justpaste.it/uk7b |
| 17:10.00 | FinalX | says access denied by server, are you sure the client's ip that it's connecting from is allowed? |
| 17:10.06 | mutante | "access denied" sounds like there is |
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| 17:10.28 | FinalX | access denied does not necessarily come down to a user/pass problem |
| 17:10.40 | mutante | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.06 | FinalX | you say "there isn't any on the server", but by default the nfs server does demand you specify the allowed ranges in /etc/exports |
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| 17:12.11 | radw | in this case, freenfs is v3 and does not require a user/password |
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| 17:12.27 | FinalX | please read what I wrote |
| 17:12.34 | FinalX | that's exactly what I just said |
| 17:12.41 | riskc | I've got some trouble since I once filled my root partition to the brim... :-( |
| 17:12.44 | radw | i can allow in /etc/hosts.allow, hoever I tried it also but didint work |
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| 17:13.08 | FinalX | riskc: ouch :( freeing some space should usually get things going again pretty decently, though |
| 17:13.19 | FinalX | radw: read what i wrote, i even said where. |
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| 17:13.58 | riskc | FinalX: no, got gigs free now but still got trouble. For example, I don't get sound for selected videos that worked before. Strange problem? |
| 17:14.19 | FinalX | for example, mkdir nfs; echo '/nfs 192.168.153.226(rw,sync,fsid=0,crossmnt,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)' >> /etc/exports |
| 17:14.28 | FinalX | and right there, there's the IP that's allowed to connect |
| 17:14.36 | FinalX | nothing to do with hosts.allow or usernames/passwords |
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| 17:15.07 | FinalX | riskc: ugh, wouldn't know really; I mostly use it for servers.. tried restarting all services (or reboot, which does essentially the same)? |
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| 17:16.48 | radw | FinalX: i just loaded rpcbind : NFS server IP to /etc/hosts.allow and give me the same error |
| 17:17.24 | f-a | (alsa) I would like to capture what comes out of my soundcard to, say, record it to a test.ogg file. I played around with alsamixer and audacity with little luck. Any hint? |
| 17:17.26 | FinalX | .......... |
| 17:18.07 | FinalX | the problem is _NOT_ on the Debian client machine, but on the FreeNFS-server not allowing the IP in the NFS-server itself through /etc/exports, _not_ in hosts.allow, like I just mentioned 2 times |
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| 17:22.56 | radw | FinalX: but why in debian as nfs client not work, but for others nfs clients work (like vmware esxi)? |
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| 17:35.13 | thiolliere | my cpu temperature goes from 40 to ~80 fan almost not work. then fan works fullpower and temperature decrease to 40. I want better control to my fan to activate them a little so it is never noisy. but pwmconfig tell me that there is pwm-capable sensors module installed. can I control my fans and how ? |
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| 17:35.59 | thiolliere | *there is no pwm-capable modules instaled* |
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| 17:37.39 | Akram | Hi guys |
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| 17:38.13 | Akram | I am helping a friend whose server has been hacked: he had a very old version of Debian: 6.0 |
| 17:38.34 | Akram | I made 2 upgrades |
| 17:38.45 | Akram | and now, I can't but: I am stuck on grub page |
| 17:38.54 | Akram | s/but/boot |
| 17:39.10 | markus_ | maybe back up everything important and reinstall? who knows what was done with the server since it was hacked. |
| 17:39.27 | markus_ | may be persistent call back shells left or back doors? |
| 17:39.40 | Akram | markus_: good advice, I want to restore the service for now, and take more time to do the reinstall |
| 17:40.01 | Akram | I need help on getting grub2 work back |
| 17:40.12 | Akram | I think that the partitions where ext2 |
| 17:40.25 | Akram | s/where/were |
| 17:40.28 | markus_ | sorry i am not very good at that but maybe you can just boot off usb and from there backup all files? |
| 17:40.35 | markus_ | a live usb? |
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| 17:40.43 | Akram | markus_: the server is in the cloud |
| 17:41.01 | Akram | markus_: I was abled to boot Rescue System, and chroot, and update grub |
| 17:41.18 | Akram | but with no success, boot returns to the grub shell |
| 17:41.26 | Akram | and if I type: boot |
| 17:41.35 | antzero | Is there a decent way to use Google Drive on Debian or should I switch to dropbox? |
| 17:41.37 | markus_ | what cloud provider? |
| 17:41.42 | Akram | I got: error: no loaded kernel |
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| 17:42.00 | Akram | markus_: it is a Physical server, hosted in France |
| 17:42.33 | markus_ | Akram: sorry i think maybe i am not the right person. maybe somebody else here can help if i am quiet |
| 17:42.43 | Akram | :D |
| 17:42.46 | markus_ | :P |
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| 17:43.00 | Akram | let's wait for a while :D |
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| 17:43.11 | Akram | Keep Calm And Relax :D |
| 17:43.12 | telecity | Akram: ovh? |
| 17:43.29 | Akram | telecity: yes, but that does not make any difference :D |
| 17:43.48 | telecity | Akram: you mentioned it being a physical server, yet said it was in the cloud |
| 17:43.51 | telecity | Akram: is it a vps? |
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| 17:44.17 | teraflops | it's a dedicated server |
| 17:44.37 | Akram | telecity: dedicated :D but, really, it is not the issue :D |
| 17:44.53 | telecity | Akram: what do you want to do, restore the boot loader? |
| 17:45.16 | Akram | telecity: I tried already to restore it: chroot , grub-update |
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| 17:45.32 | Akram | telecity: but it seems to not solve the issue: still not booting |
| 17:45.54 | Akram | telecity: I followed these steps which seem ok to me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd |
| 17:46.12 | telecity | Akram: if I were you i'd probably boot into rescue mode and then pigz up the important data and sftp.. or i'd make an image of the whole device instead |
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| 17:46.32 | telecity | Akram: and then losetup it on the localhost to extract the data |
| 17:46.45 | telecity | Akram: was this a partitioned system - /boot was dedicated? |
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| 17:47.01 | Akram | telecity: it is partitioned indeed |
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| 17:47.19 | telecity | Akram: KVM? |
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| 17:47.23 | teraflops | ^ |
| 17:47.30 | Akram | telecity: it was debian 6, I upgraded to 7, and everything was ok |
| 17:47.50 | Akram | and then upgraded to 8, and now, grub just give me the grub shell |
| 17:48.00 | telecity | Akram: how are you identifying that |
| 17:48.03 | telecity | Akram: via KVM? |
| 17:48.09 | petn-randall | Akram: If it's a cloud instance, just get a fresh image and move the data over. No point in putting work into a system that's not trustworthy anymore. |
| 17:48.16 | Akram | telecity: no, dedicated, physical, it is a dell, I have IDRAC (console) |
| 17:48.33 | telecity | Akram: ok, so you got kvm.. guess it's not the kimsufi line :D |
| 17:49.10 | telecity | Akram: i'd grub-install over |
| 17:49.21 | Akram | telecity: how do you do this ? |
| 17:50.01 | telecity | Akram: run grub-install |
| 17:50.05 | jelly | Akram: same as update-grub, except run grub-install /dev/sda or wherever |
| 17:50.26 | Akram | jelly: telecity: I will give it a try right now |
| 17:50.38 | telecity | inb4 fubar |
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| 17:51.22 | telecity | the good thing is you got KVM |
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| 17:51.47 | Akram | telecity: jelly: what should e the install device ? the one containing /boot or the one containing / ? |
| 17:52.01 | telecity | rootfs and /boot on a diff device? |
| 17:52.08 | Akram | telecity: yes |
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| 17:52.25 | telecity | GPT? |
| 17:52.31 | Akram | root is : / => /dev/sda2 |
| 17:52.40 | Akram | boot is : /boot => /dev/sda1 |
| 17:52.52 | telecity | that's the same device |
| 17:53.06 | Akram | telecity: oh sorry |
| 17:53.22 | telecity | what about the partition table - is it GPT or DOS (MBR) |
| 17:53.25 | Akram | oh by the way, I restarted in rescue and watched the fs |
| 17:53.37 | telecity | you did what |
| 17:53.40 | Akram | here it is /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) |
| 17:54.13 | telecity | parted /dev/sda |
| 17:54.14 | telecity | u s |
| 17:54.14 | telecity | p |
| 17:54.30 | Akram | and when I was doint root (hd0.1) , grub was telling it was ext2 |
| 17:54.38 | Akram | now it is ext4 apparently |
| 17:54.42 | markybob | Akram: you should install grub to /dev/sda not /sda1 or /dev/sda2 |
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| 17:55.01 | markybob | Akram: boot is generally ext2 |
| 17:55.04 | telecity | there has to be a valid boot sector |
| 17:55.21 | Akram | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.21 | Akram | Installing for i386-pc platform. |
| 17:55.21 | Akram | Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 17:55.26 | petn-randall | Akram: Are you booting via UEFI or via legacy BIOS? |
| 17:55.53 | Akram | petn-randall: I think it is legacy, but how can I deternmine it? dmesg ? |
| 17:55.57 | markybob | hell petn-randall already gave you the best advice. |
| 17:55.58 | teraflops | petn-randall: well it seems to be MBR or at least grub thinks so :P |
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| 17:56.44 | teraflops | Akram: you should know if _your_ server does EFI or MBR ... |
| 17:57.14 | Akram | teraflops: just saying in introduction: I am helping a friend, who has the server for a long time |
| 17:57.46 | telecity | and #debian is helping you |
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| 17:57.54 | teraflops | s/you/your friend |
| 17:57.59 | Akram | teraflops: someone ordered it, and set it up 3 years ago, and now I have the baby |
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| 17:58.12 | telecity | Akram: v important information :D |
| 17:58.29 | Akram | telecity: :) |
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| 17:58.56 | Akram | just like we say, the friends of my friends are my friends :D |
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| 17:59.05 | telecity | i think you can determine this through 'dmidecode' |
| 17:59.09 | telecity | whether EFI or BIOS |
| 17:59.17 | teraflops | or just reboot :P |
| 18:00.04 | Akram | dmidecode | grep -i efi , returns nothing |
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| 18:00.20 | Akram | IOS Information |
| 18:00.20 | Akram | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.20 | Akram | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.22 | Akram | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:00.30 | Akram | looks like legacy enough :D |
| 18:00.32 | markybob | Akram: run as sudo and don't paste |
| 18:00.46 | teraflops | Akram: just make sure the grub config has been updated |
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| 18:01.57 | Akram | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 9479 May 23 19:26 /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 18:02.14 | Akram | looks like, the update-grub updated it, but the install did not |
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| 18:02.22 | Akram | is it expected ? |
| 18:02.34 | telecity | just reboot |
| 18:02.49 | telecity | you got rescue mode and console, you'd be ok |
| 18:02.54 | Akram | telecity: ok, let's go for it |
| 18:03.16 | Akram | telecity: nothing more ? since reboot takes time, don't want to take it :D |
| 18:03.22 | telecity | you even have ovh technicians.. although the support is non-existant |
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| 18:03.58 | telecity | Akram: yea just reboot |
| 18:04.07 | daily | telecity: I know that all too well. |
| 18:04.17 | daily | 2 weeks to get a problem resolved, that was THEIR fault. |
| 18:04.19 | telecity | most likely the config is fluffed up anyway, but deal with that later |
| 18:04.23 | telecity | daily: idd |
| 18:04.26 | jelly | what good would a technician do that remote console and reboot button does not do |
| 18:04.30 | Akram | ok, gone for reboot |
| 18:04.32 | markybob | why do you stay? my vps supplier has great support |
| 18:04.47 | telecity | markybob: ovh is cheap |
| 18:05.01 | telecity | markybob: good network throughput, latency |
| 18:05.23 | telecity | markybob: and good hardware specs |
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| 18:05.40 | telecity | markybob: even API |
| 18:05.44 | daily | They're coming out with US locations soon too. |
| 18:05.59 | teraflops | telecity: latency depends on the endpoint. I bet you get shitty latency from India |
| 18:05.59 | daily | If you're looking for a lowend provider, check out #lowendbox. Community based around it. |
| 18:06.02 | Akram | anyway thank you guys :) still don't know if it will be working :) |
| 18:06.18 | telecity | teraflops: ofcourse it does, i'm talking about proper peering/transit with the major IXs |
| 18:06.29 | Akram | telecity: so why the grub-install may have not been done by the apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
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| 18:06.51 | Akram | youhou !!!!! thank you guys |
| 18:06.55 | teraflops | :P |
| 18:07.03 | telecity | it worked? |
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| 18:07.24 | Akram | telecity: yes it worked, thanks |
| 18:07.41 | telecity | Akram: you're welcome.. thank god we didn't have to look/debug your grub config |
| 18:07.54 | telecity | Akram: and maybe grub overwrote the sploit you had at sector 0 |
| 18:07.57 | Akram | telecity: :D indeed, thank God :D |
| 18:08.21 | Akram | telecity: I was quite confident about that, but I am still missing the grub-install |
| 18:08.31 | Akram | telecity: I will look for an explaination |
| 18:08.32 | telecity | Akram: how did the perp get access? |
| 18:08.44 | telecity | Akram: which exploit |
| 18:09.08 | Akram | oh, I don't know for sure now, but |
| 18:09.43 | Akram | at the website root, there were an SQL script, belonging to root and on 777 |
| 18:09.55 | Akram | and, what we had know |
| 18:10.01 | markybob | well that's stupid as fuck |
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| 18:10.16 | Akram | sorry, what he got, it is a small book store, |
| 18:10.18 | markybob | do what petn-randall told you to do right now |
| 18:10.29 | Akram | he lost almost all orders since 2013 |
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| 18:10.48 | telecity | Akram: what's the point of bringing this server online atm? |
| 18:10.52 | jelly | Akram: do those people not have backups? |
| 18:10.57 | Akram | and the SQL script was containing data drop an recreated the DB with data of 2013 |
| 18:11.14 | Akram | jelly: I found the backup fortunately |
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| 18:11.31 | Akram | and restored, and calmed him down |
| 18:11.35 | telecity | Akram: it's obviously compromised, apt-get install chkrootkit at least |
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| 18:11.58 | Akram | and then, I said, let's get for an update at least, to take some time to breathe |
| 18:12.08 | Akram | and in the middle :) I broke it |
| 18:12.23 | markybob | absolutely pointless |
| 18:12.27 | Akram | so, let's keep it working back a little, and start another one |
| 18:12.29 | jelly | as in "compromised" by disgrunted ex-admin whose access was never revoked? |
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| 18:12.45 | telecity | just like shapeshift.io |
| 18:12.48 | Akram | jelly: I got your point |
| 18:13.15 | Akram | I will advise him |
| 18:14.01 | Akram | thank you guys again |
| 18:14.32 | Akram | have a nice day, I will go back to kids for a while now |
| 18:14.34 | Akram | see you |
| 18:14.34 | telecity | you should run find with -atime, -mtime, -ctime |
| 18:14.47 | telecity | although you've already upgraded the system, so duh |
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| 18:16.39 | telecity | say you're a hacker, you gain access.. can you change ALL timestamps of some file on an ext4 to make it pose as something that hasn't been touched/changed? |
| 18:16.54 | martman | im having problems installing a powerpc build system and im not sure what docs to use. looks emdebian is dead and the other multilib stuff isnt going the greatest for me. i cant find any powerpc packages after editing my sources file and adding the arch ti dpkg |
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| 18:17.32 | markybob | telecity: of course |
| 18:17.38 | telecity | markybob: with what set of utils |
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| 18:18.23 | markybob | telecity: this isn't #hacking but google will give you top results really easily |
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| 18:18.51 | telecity | markybob: touch, i.e. only modifies 2 of the timestamps |
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| 18:19.38 | markybob | again, this isn't #hacking. go to #debian-offtopic if you really want |
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| 18:20.38 | telecity | markybob: ok. but this is #debian. how can i modify all the timestamps of a given file to match a certain predefined date? |
| 18:21.04 | telecity | :) |
| 18:21.09 | markybob | telecity: when i already know that you started with "if you hacked"...c'mon |
| 18:21.33 | telecity | markybob: really makes no difference, c'mon |
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| 18:21.52 | markybob | telecity: the difference is you're goging on /ignore |
| 18:22.04 | telecity | markybob: touche? |
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| 18:22.44 | martman | is very confused by multilib |
| 18:22.46 | zinx | telecity: just restore from your backup |
| 18:22.56 | telecity | zinx: hmm? |
| 18:23.07 | martman | has anyone gotten multilib stuff to work without the dated/dead emdebian stuff? |
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| 18:26.28 | telecity | markybob: google tells me you can't change the ctime |
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| 18:27.27 | telecity | As a possible workaround you can set the system time to the ctime you want to impose, then touch the file and then restore the system time. |
| 18:27.32 | telecity | oh my. |
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| 18:28.12 | DammitJim | is there a way to use inotify with the creation of files only and not directories? |
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| 18:31.33 | jelly | telecity: you can change anything with debugfs. |
| 18:31.52 | jelly | (ie. you can do anything as root) |
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| 18:43.20 | mulischaf | dff/filter add irc_smart * irc_smart_filter * |
| 18:43.25 | mulischaf | ups |
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| 18:49.25 | telecity | jelly: didn't know, thanks for the tip |
| 18:50.29 | telecity | jelly: so what if one of the servers I won gets infiltrated, files tampered with and replaced, timestamps reset.. what could I do? |
| 18:50.33 | telecity | own* |
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| 19:05.01 | PadawanLearner | may the force be with you |
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| 19:10.41 | Exagone313 | Hi, I can't install netfilter/iptables-persistent, the installation fails, here is journalctl -xn content: http://dpaste.com/0VM5PGV I had this problem on another computer and I ended up to create a startup script instead of using that.. I thought it would be fixed later. What can I do? Thanks for your help. |
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| 19:13.47 | jmcnaught | Exagone313: looks like you're not using a jessie kernel. the packages probably work without grsecurity |
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| 19:16.47 | Exagone313 | yes, OVH uses a custom kernel, I don't know why :s |
| 19:17.24 | telecity | Exagone313: part of the suite that involves isntalling spyware :p |
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| 19:17.50 | telecity | Exagone313: they install monitoring daemon afair |
| 19:17.58 | teraflops | Exagone313: out of curiosity, wasn't OVH KVM? |
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| 19:18.09 | Exagone313 | it's a dedicated server |
| 19:18.20 | Exagone313 | I don't know what you're asking |
| 19:18.30 | teraflops | well that's even worst :P |
| 19:18.34 | telecity | im not sure you need a custom kernel for monitoring daemons |
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| 19:19.40 | sbeex | hello guys |
| 19:19.43 | WormFood | What package has the character map, or whatever it's called, to let me select the hard-to-remember-how-to-type semi-unusual unicode character that I want? |
| 19:20.19 | greycat | Depends on *how* unusual. |
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| 19:20.37 | WormFood | I said "semi-unusual" :P |
| 19:20.40 | greycat | Some can be typed with Multi_key but most can't. |
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| 19:20.56 | WormFood | I thought everything could be typed if you know the code for it. |
| 19:21.03 | sbeex | (I rent a server at ovh and they told me I was doing some attack on a specific IP ... (I absolutely don't but .. if they say it it is probably the case :D ) Is there a way to find what service on my debian send to what ip something ? thank you in advance for your advices) |
| 19:21.04 | greycat | Your locale setting also affects what you can do with Multi_key. |
| 19:21.27 | WormFood | anyways, I'm trying to find the graphical program, that has a list of "all" the unicode characters. |
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| 19:21.34 | mutante | sees WormFood build his own unicode-characters-semi |
| 19:21.48 | greycat | WormFood: I believe that's called "iceweasel". You go to a wikipedia page that has a list of the chars. |
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| 19:22.14 | mutante | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters |
| 19:22.14 | WormFood | greycat, I'm well aware of that. That isn't what I'm looking for. |
| 19:22.53 | WormFood | seriously guys. That is exactly what I didn't ask for. |
| 19:22.57 | telecity | sbeex: lsof, netstat, ps, iptables with logging |
| 19:22.59 | teraflops | WormFood: use a font inspector or whatever it's called. as in gnome font viewer |
| 19:23.04 | greycat | Well, clearly nobody here knows what you are asking for. |
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| 19:23.18 | WormFood | no teraflops. There is an applet for this. |
| 19:23.22 | greycat | If you'd just say WHAT CHARACTER and LOCALE you want, we might be able to tell you how to type it. |
| 19:23.27 | WormFood | I just don't know what package it's part of. |
| 19:23.35 | teraflops | oh an applet ... |
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| 19:23.58 | WormFood | it's probably something named *-apps |
| 19:24.10 | sbeex | telecity: ps doesn't give any info related to packets ... |
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| 19:24.37 | telecity | sbeex: it gives info related to running processes |
| 19:24.59 | sbeex | yes that I agree with but.. you mean I have to "mix all of them" ? |
| 19:25.03 | telecity | sbeex: and something from that list.. is sending.. pkts |
| 19:25.04 | blackbit | is Evgeni Golov or Antonio Terceiro here? or anybody else who works with lxc? |
| 19:25.24 | teraflops | if you use vte terminal you can use pangoview for doing the opposite as in identify what font family renders a given glyph |
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| 19:26.39 | telecity | sbeex: no, just monitor active connections, sort per process.. then either tcpdump or use iptables logging |
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| 19:27.22 | telecity | sbeex: if it's sending out "attacks", then it's an outgoing connection.. likely TCP or UDP, but can be ICMP or whatever other protocol.. |
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| 19:27.35 | WormFood | The package is "gucharmap", to answer my own question. |
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| 19:27.50 | greycat | ,info gucharmap |
| 19:27.51 | judd | Package gucharmap (gnome, optional) in jessie/amd64: Unicode character picker and font browser. Version: 1:3.14.1-1; Size: 649.0k; Installed: 4009k; Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gucharmap; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/gucharmap |
| 19:28.22 | telecity | sbeex: i'd first inspect for any suspicious processes |
| 19:28.40 | telecity | sbeex: then try to identify from active connections |
| 19:28.50 | telecity | sbeex: then resort to packet logging / dumping |
| 19:28.52 | sbeex | telecity: right yes I use docker so on the main it should be nothing special is there any "list of normal process" ? |
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| 19:29.01 | telecity | docker |
| 19:29.05 | telecity | omg |
| 19:29.28 | telecity | sbeex: can you just make a new container then |
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| 19:29.35 | telecity | sbeex: and disregard the old one |
| 19:29.37 | WormFood | ΩΩΩ :D |
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| 19:29.59 | telecity | WormFood: looks like an omega in my irssi |
| 19:29.59 | sbeex | telecity: the attack come from the docker host machine |
| 19:30.10 | telecity | sbeex: oh ok |
| 19:30.20 | telecity | sbeex: lots of containers, different users? |
| 19:30.28 | telecity | sbeex: you're hosting docker, not using it yourself? |
| 19:30.40 | sbeex | I host it and use it |
| 19:30.52 | telecity | and anyone else? |
| 19:30.54 | sbeex | 20 containers |
| 19:30.56 | sbeex | noone |
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| 19:31.14 | telecity | just tell ovh |
| 19:31.16 | telecity | you fixed it |
| 19:31.25 | sbeex | but I have to say I didnt really secured my server for now... |
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| 19:31.35 | sbeex | so I will do it now xD |
| 19:31.43 | sbeex | yes for now I did this |
| 19:31.47 | sbeex | so they reenable my ip |
| 19:31.49 | telecity | why do u need docker? |
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| 19:32.00 | sbeex | but I have to find the mistake otherwise it will come again xD |
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| 19:32.11 | telecity | next time you might get perm disabled |
| 19:32.14 | sbeex | because it's suit my needs |
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| 19:32.22 | telecity | what do you do with it? |
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| 19:32.48 | sbeex | ldap, jira, confluence, jenkins, 5 websites, and some other stuff |
| 19:32.51 | sbeex | multiple db |
| 19:32.58 | telecity | i see |
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| 19:33.07 | telecity | could've deployed all that on the same server though |
| 19:33.23 | sbeex | yes but well I create docker image for my website now ^^ |
| 19:33.30 | sbeex | so I wont change to go back |
| 19:33.30 | telecity | good luck |
| 19:33.31 | sbeex | :D |
| 19:33.36 | sbeex | I already do it |
| 19:33.54 | sbeex | well I have to deal with my server for now |
| 19:34.07 | telecity | i found docker to be very confusing |
| 19:34.08 | sbeex | I will try to do some netstats as you said thx |
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| 19:34.39 | telecity | sbeex: netstat only handles udp and tcp |
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| 19:34.53 | telecity | and unix sockets |
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| 19:35.21 | sbeex | telecity: docker is another philosophy some likes some not yep ;) But I really like the "you did something wrong ?" -> remove your container your os is still clean xD |
| 19:36.12 | telecity | sbeex: right. exactly. really seemed like one big wrapper and over-simplification of something a poweruser usually does |
| 19:36.28 | sbeex | 106.185.47.251:80 TCP SYN 40 ATTACK:TCP_SYN |
| 19:36.50 | sbeex | so it is TCP |
| 19:36.58 | telecity | where's this line from |
| 19:37.09 | sbeex | the "log attack" from ovh |
| 19:37.11 | telecity | i dont think ovh would report a tcp syn.. tcp syn is pretty meh |
| 19:37.22 | telecity | oh |
| 19:37.22 | telecity | ok |
| 19:37.25 | sbeex | I have 25 times this line xD |
| 19:37.32 | telecity | 25 times where |
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| 19:37.42 | sbeex | on the log trace |
| 19:37.50 | telecity | the one they gave u? |
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| 19:38.12 | sbeex | yep |
| 19:38.26 | telecity | you're lucky they spoke to you |
| 19:38.34 | telecity | usually they are like IDGAF just fix it |
| 19:39.02 | telecity | when you RFC they just "fix it or be perm disabled" |
| 19:39.10 | telecity | ok well |
| 19:39.19 | sypher | ovh is the worst garbage provider I've ever seen. |
| 19:39.27 | sypher | but that's probably not helpful. |
| 19:39.28 | telecity | in terms of support - yes |
| 19:39.37 | sbeex | support ? if you pay maybe... |
| 19:39.38 | sypher | in terms of infrastructure, too. |
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| 19:39.44 | sbeex | "your offer doesnt allow support" |
| 19:39.46 | sbeex | :D |
| 19:40.05 | teraflops | sbeex: :P |
| 19:40.05 | telecity | sypher: dunno, my experience in terms of infrastruture has been pretty poisitive thus far |
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| 19:40.21 | sbeex | but well.. where should I start my investigate ? |
| 19:40.24 | sypher | telecity: Then you'd be the first I've ever spoken to. |
| 19:40.46 | sbeex | configure the firewall with iptable could solve that right ? can I make a rule to say -> all going to -> ip (from the log) -> reject |
| 19:40.49 | telecity | sbeex: look at iptables -j LOG --log-prefix="MYLOG: " .. OUTPUT chain |
| 19:40.58 | sbeex | my iptables is empty for now :D |
| 19:41.02 | sbeex | i didnt do anything |
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| 19:41.21 | sbeex | Im ready an howto since 10 minutes |
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| 19:41.33 | telecity | sbeex: you can log all pkts with SYN flags to port 80 |
| 19:41.41 | telecity | sbeex: but if you even do a system update it will be there |
| 19:41.58 | telecity | the TCP syn is probably bullshit |
| 19:42.00 | telecity | anyway |
| 19:42.13 | telecity | probably just a false positive somehow |
| 19:42.57 | telecity | sypher: what are the most common issues with the infrastructure over at OVH? |
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| 19:43.13 | sypher | telecity: probably off-topic at this point, honestly. |
| 19:43.18 | sypher | telecity: #debian-offtopic |
| 19:43.31 | telecity | sypher: alright |
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| 19:51.05 | tethra | question - is it just me or have kolab's repos disappeared off the face of the earth? :/ |
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| 19:53.12 | awwal | any clue on how to make 'xmobar' always on top? |
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| 19:55.26 | awwal | or prevent apps from cover it when in maximized/fullscreen mode? (openbox) |
| 19:55.35 | teraflops | awwal: tell it the possition. It's done in ~./xmobarrc |
| 19:55.48 | teraflops | Oh |
| 19:57.35 | awwal | teraflops, was talking about layer stuff |
| 19:57.59 | teraflops | Yeah I noticed later |
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| 19:58.05 | awwal | :) |
| 19:58.56 | awwal | very limited knowledge about hasksell here :P |
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| 20:00.25 | telecity | awwal: glad i never bothered to extend that knowledge either |
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| 20:00.43 | telecity | awwal: along with prolog |
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| 20:02.35 | awwal | telecity, teraflops, thats my config file. if you have time and interest you may where to look or what can be done for top layer http://paste.debian.net/697623 |
| 20:02.56 | awwal | you may know/find ... ^ |
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| 20:04.17 | Neobenedict_ | please help me with this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f94eb14ae84b664123f2400caa3995c4 |
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| 20:04.22 | Neobenedict_ | before i lock myself out |
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| 20:05.37 | teraflops | awwal: what's your setup? Just openbox + xmobar? |
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| 20:06.40 | awwal | teraflops, i have xfce but i usually use openbox; I run xmobar when in openbox session yeah |
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| 20:07.14 | teraflops | Then I guess is openbox related not xmobar related |
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| 20:09.08 | teraflops | Heh I do xmonad but I don't do xmobar |
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| 20:11.01 | MachinaeWolf | Ok if you ran a debootstrap of sid what do you do to chroot into it after? |
| 20:11.45 | greycat | chroot /path/to/your/sid |
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| 20:14.42 | Neobenedict_ | ffs |
| 20:14.44 | Neobenedict_ | can anyone help |
| 20:14.55 | Neobenedict_ | my sshd_config change (adding a user to allowed users) isn't working |
| 20:15.02 | awwal | teraflops, I did a heavy search and it's complicated. seems that it's haskell language programing related and seems that xmobar just doesnt support top layer and autohide |
| 20:15.02 | Neobenedict_ | can't login as them, as if the change is ignored |
| 20:15.06 | greycat | Did you restart ssh? |
| 20:15.08 | Neobenedict_ | yes |
| 20:15.12 | Neobenedict_ | sudo service restart sshd |
| 20:15.20 | Neobenedict_ | i also stopped it |
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| 20:15.21 | Neobenedict_ | and started |
| 20:15.24 | Neobenedict_ | i also reloaded |
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| 20:15.34 | greycat | That is not the service name on Debian. It's ssh, not sshd. |
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| 20:16.17 | Neobenedict_ | did that but still can't login |
| 20:16.26 | teraflops | awwal: in xmonad you have to specify you're using xmobar in the xmonad.hs file so they work fine together |
| 20:16.43 | Neobenedict_ | ssh/sshd are the same on my system anyway |
| 20:16.47 | Neobenedict_ | for service |
| 20:16.54 | greycat | What did you put for AllowUsers |
| 20:16.57 | sbeex | telecity: what do you think about this line on my firewall file (iptable) iptables -A OUTPUT -s 106.185.47.251 -j DROP |
| 20:17.07 | sbeex | will it disallow all trafic on this ip ? |
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| 20:17.19 | LtL | Neobenedict_: is the user in /etc/passwd with a shell ? |
| 20:17.28 | sbeex | *outgoing |
| 20:17.28 | teraflops | awwal: No idea about openbox but it looks.like it doesn't know there is a bar there |
| 20:17.36 | Neobenedict_ | i can su user |
| 20:17.39 | Neobenedict_ | with a password |
| 20:17.42 | Neobenedict_ | so i assume so yes |
| 20:17.42 | awwal | teraflops, I believe that xmobar integrates better with xmonad being created for it. |
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| 20:18.04 | Neobenedict_ | and AllowUsers a b c d user1 (not posting the actual users) |
| 20:18.09 | Neobenedict_ | maybe the number is an issue? idk |
| 20:18.21 | awwal | teraflops, no clue about thats (openbox doesn't know its there) |
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| 20:18.57 | LtL | Neobenedict_: tail -f /var/log/auth.log while attempting to login, look |
| 20:19.00 | Neobenedict_ | guys |
| 20:19.04 | Neobenedict_ | if I sudo service sshd stop |
| 20:19.07 | Neobenedict_ | should I be able to log in |
| 20:19.13 | Neobenedict_ | with a new shell |
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| 20:19.31 | awwal | teraflops, btw, in haskell language -- is for comment, eh? |
| 20:19.32 | greycat | I don't even think he's a Debian user. |
| 20:19.34 | LtL | Neobenedict_: no |
| 20:19.47 | teraflops | awwal: yep |
| 20:19.54 | awwal | teraflops, ok |
| 20:20.09 | awwal | just wanted to be sure about it :P |
| 20:20.10 | Neobenedict_ | i think somehow i have two ssh processes running |
| 20:20.12 | Neobenedict_ | is there a way to check |
| 20:20.29 | Neobenedict_ | nothing about failed logins in auth.log |
| 20:21.08 | Neobenedict_ | root 1912 0.0 0.0 55168 3084 ? Ss 22:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D |
| 20:21.08 | Neobenedict_ | root 24776 0.0 0.0 55152 1164 ? Ss 2015 2:38 /usr/sbin/sshd |
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| 20:21.26 | teraflops | Be careful The combo is.comming |
| 20:21.49 | Neobenedict_ | kill the 24776 process? |
| 20:22.10 | greycat | Now you're just typing random shit. |
| 20:22.38 | Neobenedict_ | are you trying to help or make unfunny comments greycat |
| 20:22.48 | greycat | You've given no evidence that you're using Debian, or that you are connecting to the right server, or that you are using the correct username, or the correct syntax in the file, or ANYTHING. |
| 20:22.59 | Neobenedict_ | the evidence i'm using debian is I joined #debian |
| 20:23.13 | greycat | 16:23 Ignoring ALL from Neobenedict_ |
| 20:23.16 | Neobenedict_ | good |
| 20:23.19 | Neobenedict_ | fuck off |
| 20:23.23 | Neobenedict_ | now, I have two sshd processes running according to this, one with -D |
| 20:23.42 | mutante | well, now i'm not gonna help |
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| 20:24.01 | Neobenedict_ | greycat is trolling, just ignore him mutante |
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| 20:31.42 | Neobenedict_ | got it fixed no thanks to ##linux |
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| 20:31.59 | Neobenedict_ | -no |
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| 20:34.55 | jak2000 | hi all |
| 20:34.58 | telecity | sbeex: |
| 20:35.07 | telecity | yes it will, but use "-I" instead of "-A" |
| 20:35.09 | jak2000 | how to sync the clock? |
| 20:35.15 | telecity | with ntp |
| 20:35.34 | telecity | apt-get install ntpd |
| 20:35.36 | telecity | ntpdate -v europe.pool.ntp.org |
| 20:35.58 | telecity | sry, "apt-get install ntpdate" |
| 20:36.14 | sbeex | telecity: cool thx ! |
| 20:36.56 | telecity | sbeex: actually, no |
| 20:37.01 | telecity | that line is erroneous |
| 20:37.09 | sbeex | -l doesnt exists |
| 20:37.17 | telecity | you have "-s" |
| 20:37.19 | telecity | that's source |
| 20:37.23 | telecity | it must be destination |
| 20:37.25 | telecity | "-d" |
| 20:37.38 | jak2000 | http://pastebin.com/21DGAYF9 |
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| 20:38.47 | sbeex | ok I changed but -l doesnt works |
| 20:38.48 | telecity | jak2000: ftp.us.debian.org resolves just fine on my end |
| 20:39.10 | sbeex | iptables -t filter -A OUTPUT -d 106.185.47.251 -j DROP |
| 20:39.32 | telecity | jak2000: echo "64.50.236.52 ftp.us.debian.org" >> /etc/h |
| 20:39.43 | telecity | jak2000: echo "64.50.236.52 ftp.us.debian.org" >> /etc/hosts |
| 20:39.57 | telecity | sbeex: you don't need -t filter |
| 20:40.13 | telecity | sbeex: iptables -I OUTPUT -d 106.185.47.251 -j DROP |
| 20:40.28 | sbeex | -l doesnt exists telecity |
| 20:40.38 | telecity | wtf is -l |
| 20:40.58 | telecity | -l is L, -I is |
| 20:41.03 | telecity | well, -i |
| 20:41.07 | sbeex | ahhhhhhhh |
| 20:41.08 | sbeex | :D |
| 20:41.19 | sbeex | sorry but on my irc client it is 100% the same charactere |
| 20:41.41 | teraflops | Haha pick a better font |
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| 20:42.01 | telecity | iptables -I OUTPUT -d 106.185.47.251 -j LOG --log-prefix="CURIOUS_LOG: " |
| 20:42.11 | teraflops | l1I |
| 20:42.20 | sbeex | :) |
| 20:42.22 | telecity | sbeex: add that too, observe any logged pkts in 'dmesg' |
| 20:42.33 | greycat | Whoever came up with fonts that cannot visually distinguish l | I 1 needs to be disemboweled. |
| 20:42.34 | sbeex | o great will try :) |
| 20:42.57 | jhutchins | !ntp |
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| 20:42.58 | dpkg | The Network Time Protocol (NTP) is used to synchronize the clocks of computer systems over a network. "aptitude install ntp" is enough to get going and synchronise your clock using the default ntp pool. http://wiki.debian.org/NTP http://www.ntp.org/ See also <set time>, <pool.ntp>. |
| 20:43.11 | jmcnaught | jak2000: putting ftp.us.debian.org in /etc/hosts could very well cause future pain.. are you able to resolve any DNS at all? |
| 20:43.13 | jhutchins | jak2000: See Above |
| 20:43.36 | sbeex | telecity but I can DROP and LOG on the same line or do I have to do a new one ? |
| 20:43.37 | FinalX | heh, ntp with the debian pool, I remember our department submitting a nasty thing with that :) |
| 20:44.00 | telecity | sbeex: you need 2 rules |
| 20:44.04 | FinalX | (was quickly resolved though) |
| 20:44.04 | telecity | sbeex: aka 2 lines |
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| 20:44.14 | telecity | sbeex: one for LOG, one for DROP |
| 20:44.23 | jhutchins | jak2000: Also, please use paste.debian.net - pastebin.com has issues. |
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| 20:45.37 | telecity | sbeex: this 106.185.47.251.. do you even know who it belongs to? |
| 20:45.52 | sbeex | absolutely not... |
| 20:46.23 | sbeex | I tryed on a browser but it is a nginx error page |
| 20:46.31 | telecity | yea |
| 20:46.39 | telecity | don't forget to nmap scan it |
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| 20:46.41 | jak2000 | jmcnaught :) |
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| 20:46.43 | jak2000 | thanks |
| 20:46.53 | telecity | sbeex: (was a joke) |
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| 20:47.39 | telecity | sbeex: i'll nmap scan it for you.. not sure what for though |
| 20:48.03 | sbeex | telecity ok.. I have a joke that is not really one for me :D --> I configured iptables and now nothing works on my containers haha |
| 20:48.20 | sbeex | I am going to spend a good night :D |
| 20:48.27 | telecity | you what |
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| 20:48.49 | telecity | ok do a "iptables -S" |
| 20:49.03 | telecity | got ufw too? |
| 20:49.26 | sbeex | ufw ? |
| 20:49.42 | telecity | "ufw status" |
| 20:49.56 | telecity | anyway just "iptables -S" and use a pastie |
| 20:50.21 | telecity | sbeex: i'm 99% sure we're doing something that's not even needed cause of false positive to that crappy host |
| 20:50.26 | sbeex | https://gist.github.com/sebastienvermeille/0c670cf8d7ef6f5d7df6032e54088e01 |
| 20:50.44 | sbeex | telecity it's possible :) |
| 20:51.09 | sbeex | but now my shipyard can't be reached on 8080 well it works only at the fresh reboot and then end.. |
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| 20:51.18 | telecity | sbeex: why do you have a DROP policy by default |
| 20:51.24 | telecity | sbeex: most likely ufw is indeed enabled |
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| 20:51.34 | sbeex | what is UFW ? :D |
| 20:51.42 | telecity | sbeex: what does ufw status |
| 20:51.43 | telecity | say? |
| 20:51.48 | markybob | !ufw |
| 20:51.48 | dpkg | Uncomplicated firewall (ufw) is an <iptables> front-end with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter (PF). https://launchpad.net/ufw |
| 20:51.53 | sbeex | command not found |
| 20:51.55 | markybob | it's firewall for dummies |
| 20:52.11 | sbeex | should I install it? |
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| 20:52.17 | markybob | i wouldn't |
| 20:52.36 | greycat | iptables is complicated enough without adding an emulation-of-OpenBSD layer on top of it |
| 20:52.44 | telecity | sbeex: you have a DROP policy by default atm, anything that isn't whitelisted = will be blocked |
| 20:52.46 | markybob | if you need firewall help you should ask the experts in #netfilter |
| 20:53.01 | sbeex | telecity and it is good I think. So I have to allow everything I want |
| 20:53.10 | telecity | sbeex: it's good if you know what you're doing |
| 20:53.19 | telecity | sbeex: doesn't sound like you do so far :D |
| 20:53.28 | sbeex | pfff :p |
| 20:54.00 | telecity | sbeex: so your docker bloat isn't working atm, right? |
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| 20:54.31 | sbeex | shipyard ( a docker container gui) is working but not listing dockers containers |
| 20:54.38 | sbeex | and other containers are not started |
| 20:54.49 | sbeex | (I would need the shipyard gui to do so :D ) |
| 20:55.17 | telecity | sbeex: well just -P ACCEPT |
| 20:56.10 | sbeex | ok |
| 20:56.15 | telecity | sbeex: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT |
| 20:56.16 | telecity | etc |
| 20:56.33 | telecity | all 3 chains |
| 20:56.36 | telecity | and it should work |
| 20:56.37 | telecity | afterwards |
| 20:57.59 | mutante | if you accept everything why have a packet filter |
| 20:58.09 | telecity | so you can block what you don't want to accept |
| 20:58.18 | telecity | we're talking about the default policy |
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| 20:58.27 | sbeex | well now it works again |
| 20:58.39 | sbeex | so I can later uncomment and find the right ports to open ;) |
| 20:58.40 | sbeex | thank you |
| 20:58.55 | telecity | you're welcome |
| 20:59.07 | sbeex | erf game of thrones is starting come back in one hour :) (yes in europe we have it only today xD) |
| 20:59.14 | sbeex | thank you very much telecity ! |
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| 20:59.48 | FinalX | sbeex: eh, HBO airs it twice the primary air day here in .nl |
| 21:00.01 | FinalX | then again, the first is at 03:00 at night :P |
| 21:00.17 | telecity | is it really that good? |
| 21:00.19 | telecity | the show |
| 21:00.26 | Aorious | Yes |
| 21:00.26 | FinalX | it's getting better again |
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| 21:01.05 | FinalX | I remember being in Brazil in april/may 2013 and remembering the season finale was utter shit compared to another show I was watching :) |
| 21:01.10 | FinalX | (that also had its season finale) |
| 21:01.18 | markybob | #debian-offtopic if you want to keep talking about GOT please |
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| 21:01.56 | telecity | !uptight |
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| 21:02.09 | Kiril | hello, guys |
| 21:02.39 | Kiril | could you tell me how to list all available daemons runned ? |
| 21:03.07 | greycat | systemctl -a, or ps auxw |
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| 21:03.22 | Kiril | also how to disable some of them like ; alsa-utils , bluetooth and etc |
| 21:03.37 | greycat | alsa-utils is not a daemon |
| 21:03.52 | Aorious | Hi, I have a startup script in the autostart folder, to setup some xmodmap keybinds. How these be made persist through Gnome restarts (some times Gnome freezes so I need to restart it)? |
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| 21:04.59 | telecity | Kiril: lsmod, modprobe, depmod.. research that |
| 21:05.21 | greycat | That has nothing to do with daemons either. |
| 21:05.46 | telecity | greycat: indeed, but prety sure he meant modules, right? |
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| 21:06.10 | greycat | God only knows, since he gave two examples that had nothing in common with each other, or with daemons in general. |
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| 21:06.27 | telecity | greycat: true.. although i still suspect modules due to alsa |
| 21:06.44 | greycat | if the real question is "How to disable support for my hardware", rmmod isn't the answer either. Though I don't have a clue why he wants to disable support for his hardware. |
| 21:07.21 | telecity | greycat: most likely just wants to prevent some specific modules loading on startup |
| 21:07.40 | greycat | In which case the answer is module blacklisting. |
| 21:08.48 | telecity | Kiril: https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 21:09.04 | greycat | (We're still guessing what the actual goal is.) |
| 21:09.13 | markybob | i gave up |
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| 21:12.09 | telecity | greycat: would service --status-all complement the answer in case he means the other? :) |
| 21:12.34 | greycat | I don't know this "service" shit you red hat people use. In Jessie it's systemctl -a |
| 21:12.53 | telecity | the service shit works with SysV and systemd |
| 21:13.29 | jordanm | and upstart fwiw |
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| 21:17.19 | telecity | greycat: regarding alsa I was wrong though, alsa-utils is a service |
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| 21:18.05 | greycat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jul 8 2014 /lib/systemd/system/alsa-utils.service -> /dev/null |
| 21:18.08 | greycat | what the fuck. |
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| 21:18.57 | polyzen | lol |
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| 21:20.45 | telecity | the init.d script for alsa-utils has some data though :) |
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| 21:23.14 | Kiril | as i said :) |
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| 21:23.37 | telecity | Kiril everyone still wonders what the fuck you said tbh |
| 21:24.23 | Kiril | root@Azeroth(~)# systemctl disable alsa-utils |
| 21:24.23 | Kiril | Synchronizing state for alsa-utils.service with sysvinit using update-rc.d... |
| 21:24.23 | Kiril | Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d alsa-utils defaults |
| 21:24.28 | Kiril | that one |
| 21:24.33 | telecity | sounded like some huinya |
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| 21:25.25 | aubergine | why does the systemd implementation suck so hard? its a NP hard problem to restart a service now |
| 21:26.19 | markybob | aubergine: it's really easy to restart a daemon. seriously? |
| 21:26.23 | telecity | does systemd still use sysvinit rc scripts as backend? |
| 21:26.26 | telecity | or only sync |
| 21:26.39 | telecity | the init itself changed so old init has no effect right? |
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| 21:27.47 | markybob | aubergine: this is hard? sudo systemctl restart foo |
| 21:28.15 | aubergine | markybob: lets use samba and apache2 as example. it's always a jeopardy if you have to use systemctl, the init script or the serivce binary |
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| 21:28.38 | aubergine | try sudo systemctl restart samba |
| 21:28.59 | markybob | i dont use samba. i don't touch windows ever |
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| 21:29.17 | markybob | no problem with apache |
| 21:29.18 | telecity | considering that SMB is CIFS |
| 21:29.32 | aubergine | it would tell you that it doesn't restart |
| 21:29.43 | telecity | aubergine: "service binary" - some ctl binary? |
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| 21:30.03 | aubergine | service samba restart |
| 21:30.24 | teraflops | aubergine: because samba is not the service ... |
| 21:30.44 | telecity | aubergine: wouldn't that do the same thing as systemctl, if systemd is the init? |
| 21:31.00 | aubergine | it should but it doesn't |
| 21:31.22 | teraflops | aubergine: smbd.service and nmdb.service btw |
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| 21:31.39 | telecity | can you paste the output of both when triggered just for reference |
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| 21:31.54 | telecity | teraflops: i still remember you helped me on the getty issue, thanks :p |
| 21:31.56 | jhutchins | aubergine: MySQL was having trouble with restarts in systemd for a while. |
| 21:32.07 | aubergine | yes and this sucks because in init.d and service its still samba like the 20 years before. |
| 21:32.07 | teraflops | telecity: oh np |
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| 21:32.27 | jhutchins | aubergine: THe native systemd stuff works pretty well, it's the init compatibility stuff that seems to break. |
| 21:32.37 | markybob | aubergine: but you know you can tab complete? |
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| 21:32.54 | aubergine | when you run 20 services. you might have to use all 3 methods and maybe different names for a job that was easy before |
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| 21:33.01 | aubergine | how you do that with your scripts? |
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| 21:33.21 | teraflops | telecity: it was for me? the paste request? |
| 21:33.44 | telecity | teraflops: nah, for aubergine |
| 21:33.49 | teraflops | ok ;) |
| 21:34.22 | aubergine | telecity: i deinstalled systemd so I can't sorry |
| 21:34.28 | VulcanRidr | I have an app (tvtime) that sound has quit working on. I checked the line input in aumix and it was at full volume. Suggestions on where else to look? |
| 21:34.29 | telecity | aubergine: :D nice move |
| 21:34.44 | telecity | aubergine: back to sysv? |
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| 21:34.51 | VulcanRidr | aubergine: How did you do it? |
| 21:35.03 | VulcanRidr | (uninstall systemd, that is) |
| 21:35.17 | aubergine | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation |
| 21:35.28 | telecity | nice domain |
| 21:35.34 | aubergine | the tool is so good that it has a own deinstallation website |
| 21:35.46 | telecity | ^ point |
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| 21:35.54 | VulcanRidr | I have been playing with FreeBSD. |
| 21:36.00 | telecity | upstart is worse though |
| 21:36.02 | aubergine | we are debian users, we don't use debian to get fancy stuff |
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| 21:36.32 | VulcanRidr | aubergine: Does this get rid of all the system creep stuff (networkd, su, etc)? |
| 21:37.00 | telecity | aubergine: but hey i'd miss "hostnamectl" |
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| 21:37.38 | markybob | what are you talking about? su is "creep stuff"? what is "creep stuff"? |
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| 21:37.43 | aubergine | VulcanRidr: just let systemd-shim installed and you are fine |
| 21:37.47 | telecity | and other.. bin.. ctls |
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| 21:38.33 | aubergine | telecity: in the next release they will bring this binary syslog which comes with systemd |
| 21:38.46 | aubergine | it is a nightmare |
| 21:38.49 | VulcanRidr | aubergine: Cool. |
| 21:39.27 | VulcanRidr | I have an app (tvtime) that sound has quit working on. I checked the line input in aumix and it was at full volume. Suggestions on where else to look? |
| 21:39.55 | VulcanRidr | I have a sneaking suspicion that it is pottering-ware that is causing the problem |
| 21:40.09 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, you can start by saying what the name of the app is./ |
| 21:40.18 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, tvtime is the name? |
| 21:40.37 | jml2 | does apt-cache show tvtime |
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| 21:41.29 | VulcanRidr | jml2: I did...tvtime. |
| 21:41.43 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, check to see if your user is in these groups, audio video plugdev |
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| 21:42.39 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, if anything is using pa, you can use "pacmd" and do "list-clients" |
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| 21:44.47 | VulcanRidr | jml2: No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon. |
| 21:45.18 | VulcanRidr | I think by default, it installs pa for local sessions only. |
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| 21:45.56 | teraflops | VulcanRidr: are you on tty? or no user logged in? |
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| 21:46.45 | VulcanRidr | teraflops: She's in an X session. |
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| 21:46.58 | telecity | she? |
| 21:47.07 | jml2 | i thought vulcans were heheshe |
| 21:47.14 | VulcanRidr | telecity: This is on my wife's computer. |
| 21:47.33 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, maybe she watches too much tv |
| 21:47.55 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, time |
| 21:47.58 | telecity | must be fate then |
| 21:47.58 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, tvtime i mean |
| 21:48.17 | jml2 | yeah she deserves it |
| 21:48.18 | jml2 | ! |
| 21:48.49 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, get your wife in here |
| 21:48.50 | teraflops | VulcanRidr: what DE/WM is it? |
| 21:49.00 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, we need to talk to her on what she did to "tvtime" |
| 21:49.06 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, and we can get to the bottom of this |
| 21:49.15 | VulcanRidr | teraflops: KDE4. |
| 21:49.34 | VulcanRidr | She didn't do anything to it. I admin the box. |
| 21:49.52 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, maybe it was the popcorn |
| 21:49.57 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, maybe.. |
| 21:50.06 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, it is you because you lost the logic |
| 21:50.32 | jml2 | VulcanRidr, check the logs vulkie |
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| 21:52.02 | teraflops | VulcanRidr: I see a lot of issue about tv time not getting sound doing a random search |
| 21:52.07 | teraflops | issues* |
| 21:52.55 | teraflops | also since there is no pulseaudio instance running an the fact that this app is old as hell I cannot imagine whow it can be related to poettering-ware :P |
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| 21:53.33 | jml2 | there's a sample sox command for doing a mapping workaround for problematic hardware |
| 21:53.36 | jml2 | (on their site) |
| 21:53.40 | jml2 | (faq) |
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| 21:53.42 | teraflops | sorry my typing im on the phone |
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| 22:07.04 | bob121212 | Hi, can anyone help me with installing a gtk3 theme? |
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| 22:08.18 | bob121212 | Anyone that could help me out? |
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| 22:10.05 | bob121212 | is anyone online? |
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| 22:10.48 | teraflops | bob121212: I guess is better asking: hi i have this gtk3 theme (provide the url if it's not packaged) I get this error (errors here) when trying to install it, also I'm trying to install this way ... |
| 22:11.52 | bob121212 | Hi, I have this gtk3 theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OS+X+10.11+El+Capitan?content=174139 , I tried to extract it and copy it to /usr/share/themes , but its still not showing up in my themes list |
| 22:12.20 | markybob | bob121212: you might need to log out and back in |
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| 22:12.53 | markybob | but i don't use gtk3...so...i don't really know much on the topic |
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| 22:14.57 | bob121212_ | I tried to log in and out, but that did not work |
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| 22:15.20 | markybob | bob121212: did you restart all of x? the WM? |
| 22:17.32 | teraflops | bob121212_: can you see the theme via lxappearance or whatever you use to pick themes? (unless you use a plain settings.ini file) |
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| 22:18.05 | markybob | bob121212_: it's gnome? |
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| 22:19.37 | teraflops | bob121212_: btw did you read the instructions? |
| 22:19.56 | bob121212_ | Yes I did |
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| 22:20.12 | bob121212_ | All of them just say to extract the zip file and move it to the themes folder |
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| 22:20.27 | markybob | bob121212_: and is it gnome? |
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| 22:20.30 | teraflops | ,v gtk+3.0 |
| 22:20.31 | judd | No package named 'gtk+3.0' was found in amd64. |
| 22:20.38 | teraflops | :S |
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| 22:21.09 | markybob | ,v libgtk-2-0 |
| 22:21.10 | judd | No package named 'libgtk-2-0' was found in amd64. |
| 22:21.11 | dvs | ,v gtk-3.0 |
| 22:21.12 | judd | No package named 'gtk-3.0' was found in amd64. |
| 22:21.16 | teraflops | ,v gtk+ |
| 22:21.17 | judd | No package named 'gtk+' was found in amd64. |
| 22:21.18 | markybob | ,v libgtk-3-0 |
| 22:21.20 | judd | Package: libgtk-3-0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.2-7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie: 3.14.5-1+deb8u1; stretch: 3.20.4-1; sid: 3.20.5-2 |
| 22:21.25 | dvs | yay |
| 22:21.25 | teraflops | thanks |
| 22:21.35 | teraflops | bob121212_: it says is for ubuntu also it requires GTK+ 3.6 or above |
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| 22:22.36 | markybob | i don't know why i have to work so hard to find out if he's using gnome |
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| 22:23.20 | teraflops | bob121212_: did you issue the commands the readme says after extracting the files? |
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| 22:45.33 | gnumedia | Hello, which Debian channel do I need to enquire within if I want to ask a specific libre software be added to repositories? |
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| 22:46.27 | abrotman | !rfp |
| 22:46.27 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
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| 22:47.00 | jrg | can someone help me out with: https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/problems-with-linux-os-x-windows-permissions.43586/#post-287797 |
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| 22:47.18 | jrg | some files will rm .. some won't and i have no idea why. doesn't seem like a permissions issue |
| 22:47.22 | jrg | something else is wrong |
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| 22:48.04 | gnumedia | Well, a package 'not being there' is not really a bug per se... |
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| 22:49.31 | abrotman | gnumedia: you file an RFP, it's a type of bug in the BTS |
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| 23:06.15 | gnumedia | okay, thanks, filing that request via 'reportbug' was interesting. I hope I did it correctly enough... |
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| 23:32.36 | ProfessorKaos64 | What Debian equivelant package provides libEGL_nvidia.so* ? I am having a hard time finding it (arch liunx: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/nvidia-utils/files/), and it's needed for a program according to 'strace -eopen' |
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| 23:47.38 | naptastic | ProfessorKaos64, I'm only guessing by the library name, but since it's about nvidia, it probably comes from the proprietary driver. |
| 23:47.56 | ProfessorKaos64 | strange, I have 355 installed, wonder if it's with a newer driver |
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| 23:48.03 | ProfessorKaos64 | on debian jessie |
| 23:48.06 | naptastic | o.O That is odd. |
| 23:48.20 | ProfessorKaos64 | I don't know what makes the link, even if that lib is symbolic |
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| 23:48.35 | ProfessorKaos64 | Maybe I need to install the driver again |
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| 23:50.29 | naptastic | ProfessorKaos64, I just looked in Synaptic, and there's a 'libegl1-nvidia' package available. (Sid) |
| 23:50.36 | Twirl | hi, how do you stop a command when Ctrl + C doesn't work? generally because of too much output |
| 23:51.09 | naptastic | Twirl, in another terminal, you can send it SIGTERM or SIGKILL with `kill -15 <pid>` or `kill -9 <pid>` |
| 23:51.28 | ProfessorKaos64 | no luck naptastic , strange |
| 23:51.31 | naptastic | but SIGINT (ctrl+c) usually works after a while. |
| 23:51.47 | ProfessorKaos64 | I'd switch to a new TTY and kill that process |
| 23:51.59 | naptastic | ProfessorKaos64, that's really strange. I'm using Nouveau, so I may not be able to help you much more. |
| 23:52.08 | ProfessorKaos64 | it's ok, I appreciate the responses regardless |
| 23:52.17 | naptastic | OH |
| 23:52.23 | naptastic | Do you have contrib and non-free enabled? |
| 23:52.25 | ProfessorKaos64 | I usuall go to packages.debian.org and search the contents list too |
| 23:52.34 | ProfessorKaos64 | nothing shows up there |
| 23:52.53 | Twirl | it's pretty annoying when you are in ssh |
| 23:53.20 | naptastic | ProfessorKaos64, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/libegl1-mesa/filelist |
| 23:53.21 | Twirl | i would have to make a new connection and see what command is misbehaving and send the signal |
| 23:53.28 | ProfessorKaos64 | aw.... here we go https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=experimental&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=libEGL_nvidia.so.0 |
| 23:53.28 | naptastic | whoops, that's the wrong things |
| 23:53.35 | naptastic | THERE WE GO. :) |
| 23:53.36 | ProfessorKaos64 | there's an experimental pkg |
| 23:53.39 | ProfessorKaos64 | hmmmm |
| 23:53.57 | ProfessorKaos64 | never was an issue before this version of retroarch, perhaps requires this now for vulkan support or something |
| 23:54.02 | ProfessorKaos64 | or wayland idk |
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| 23:54.23 | naptastic | Twirl, yep... it's just the nature of the beast. Making SIGINT always work immediately would require some pretty drastic changes to the OS, and probably hurt performance terribly. |
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| 23:54.52 | ProfessorKaos64 | yea, perhaps I can't upgrade retroarch for my repo |
| 23:54.57 | ProfessorKaos64 | I provide packages for Jessie and SteamOS |
| 23:55.16 | ProfessorKaos64 | I have an issue submitted to them, so perhaps there is a workaround |
| 23:55.23 | ProfessorKaos64 | I doubt I can backport that |
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| 23:56.36 | ProfessorKaos64 | YES! naptastic got it! at least on SteamOS |
| 23:56.49 | ProfessorKaos64 | Valve provides the package in their repo , libegl-nvidia0 |
| 23:56.52 | Twirl | naptastic: idc man, you can't justify having to wait 30 minutes for a process that is also rendering the whole terminal unusable because of too much output, i use tmux and have 4 panels or sometimes more and just one process that sends too much output and i can't do anything else, i would have to launch a new terminal connect to the server and so on, that affects my performance |
| 23:56.54 | ProfessorKaos64 | perhaps they melded it in |
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| 23:58.48 | naptastic | Twirl, yeah, I feel your pain (as a formerly professional sysadmin and downtime post-mortem analyst) the only thing worse is when the console is scrolling with OOM messages about PHP processes... |
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