IRC log for #debian on 20160613

00:00.45AlexLikeRock2i got this  laptop
00:00.45AlexLikeRock2http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_migrated/pics/dell_latitude_e6400_tastatur_06.jpg
00:00.56AlexLikeRock2they have  a  PRINT  FINGER   reader
00:01.12AlexLikeRock2how to start login qhit it ?
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00:01.27AlexLikeRock2KDM, GDM3, ligthDM, slim , etc, etc
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00:03.19abrotmanAlexLikeRock2: what problem are you having?
00:03.51AlexLikeRock2how to make  works   the print finger at DM
00:03.54AlexLikeRock2??
00:04.01abrotmanhow is that related to your graphics speed?
00:04.47AlexLikeRock2301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.118 FPS
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00:05.00abrotmanthat's not a fingerprint reader
00:05.15AlexLikeRock2well i have   2 problems
00:05.19abrotmanstart with one
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00:05.52AlexLikeRock2graphic  card  go  SLOW   at  PCSXR  (Playstation emulator) few minutes  laters
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00:06.20abrotmanYes, an intel graphics card can do 3d,but it will not play quickly for state of the art/newer games
00:07.15abrotmannewer kernels/drivers may improve it, but probably not dramatically
00:07.28AlexLikeRock2its PS1
00:07.33AlexLikeRock2its not  NEW
00:07.49AlexLikeRock2well, by the  way, tanks
00:07.50galex-713Why isn’t retroshare packaged? I think it used to be
00:07.53abrotmanA PS1 is not native to linux, you're emulating things
00:08.06AlexLikeRock2my second problem:
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00:08.14SuperTramp83galex-713: +1
00:08.40AlexLikeRock2i have  a laptop,   they have  a  PRINT  FINGER   reader  ,
00:08.47AlexLikeRock2how to make work ?
00:09.40AlexLikeRock2abrotman,       KDM, GDM3, ligthDM, slim , etc, etc
00:09.47petn-randallYeah, PS1 wasn't even x86 hardware
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00:10.41ArahaelPS1 = playstation 1?
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00:11.04petn-randallArahael: In this case, yes
00:11.27Arahaelthanks, just tryjng to make sense of the convo :)
00:11.31petn-randall(not the command prompt $PS1 ;) )
00:11.38Arahaelheh, indeed.
00:11.40AlexLikeRock2Arahael,   PS1 = Playstation 1
00:12.28AlexLikeRock2PCSXR  = PlayStation 1
00:12.59Arahaeli couldn't imagine playstations being emulated fantastically well on x86 hardware.
00:13.46Arahaeli'd get a TV card and a real playstation 1.
00:13.50AlexLikeRock2well , at my desktop , its going cool
00:14.11AlexLikeRock2i got  AMD SEMPRON  at my desktop :)
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00:14.43Arahaelthat will get hot.
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00:16.43AlexLikeRock2nop :)
00:16.57AlexLikeRock2ok back to my rpoblem  #2
00:17.28AlexLikeRock2i have  a laptop,   they have  a  PRINT  FINGER   reader  ,how to make work ?
00:17.36AlexLikeRock2<PROTECTED>
00:19.49babilenAlexLikeRock2: What have you tried so far?
00:20.18AlexLikeRock2why?
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00:23.15ArahaelAlexLikeRock2: you don't think it's relevant?
00:23.33AlexLikeRock2yes
00:23.38abrotmanAlexLikeRock2: google knmows about how todo this
00:23.57AlexLikeRock2what its the magical  words ?
00:24.16abrotmanlinux fingerprint reader
00:24.23abrotmanshocking, Iknow
00:24.44AlexLikeRock2tanks abrotman
00:26.19zinxabrotman: how did you ever come up with such arcane search terms?
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00:36.56abrotmanzinx: I asked duckduckgo how to search google for help with linux fingerprint readers ..
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00:39.46zinxabrotman: ahh
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00:59.20Arahaelzinx: that is what decades of hard-earned experience teaches you.
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01:31.45Zlibahey... there is an audio file that plays every time I log in.... how might I disable that? running xfce
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01:33.04Zlibanm. it was an autostart item
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02:30.06stonedIs there a thesaurus for linux command line?
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02:30.26stonedI use dict every day and I read the man page but it has no thesaurus option
02:31.07stonedanything but aiksaurus
02:31.44stonedartha i see, hm
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02:32.08stonedoh that's gui
02:32.49stonedheh. Well nevermind. aiksaurus it is. Nothing else even recognizes some words.
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02:37.07DeaDSouLhi, is it possible to set a custom location for some packages when installing them by `aptitude install pkg_name` ?
02:37.21abrotmanno
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02:50.47k_sze[work]Is `dpkg-reconfigure locales` supposed to work inside a chroot?
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02:52.06widget"dpkg-reconfigure locales" should work in a chroot environment.
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02:57.08crucify_mehello I had trouble with my desktop missing characters in top bar clock etc. I found that 'ALT-F2 + 'r' <enter>' reset the gnome desktop. Is that a permanent fix?
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02:57.34crucify_meIt seems to work so far.
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03:03.03k_sze[work]widget: I try to get it to generate and set default locale to en_HK.utf8, but it doesn't seem to work. I get setlocale error message whenever I enter the chroot or su to a user in the chroot.
03:03.46k_sze[work]And if I ls /usr/share/locale in the chroot, there is no directory for en_HK
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03:19.44k_sze[work]widget: does it depend on anything *outside* the chroot?
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03:34.34nezZariohey guys, i need to reinstall debian, I badly damaged my install a couple of weeks ago (lost the apt files, and the backups in /var/backups, among other things, with no other backups).  I use XFCE as my WM -- should I use the -amd64-xfce-CD1.iso ?
03:35.02nezZarioI need to reinstall as quickly as possible
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03:38.00nezZarioAlso, is there a way, for example, to download all the package data for additional packages I'm planning to install, but not install them, on another working system ?
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03:39.58nezZarioAhh I guess I can just copy over /var/cache/apt/archives ... if i do that, will apt verify the checksums before installing ?
03:41.14jmcnaughtnezZario: most of the packages will be on that CD, and others can be downloaded from a network mirror. I doubt you'll save much time doing something "advanced" like this
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03:42.38nezZariojmcnaught: advanced?  i'm just suggesting copying the .deb's from /var/cache/apt/archives back over to the new/clean system before running a script I keep around for reinstalling
03:43.00nezZarioi have a large drive attached that I'm not going to be reformatting, so that cp will be local
03:44.34jmcnaughtnezZario: are you trying to save the time downloading? if you have more than one Debian system you should consider running something like apt-cacher-ng on your local network
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03:46.12nezZariojmcnaught: correct, i.e. spend the next 1-2 hrs downloading stuff while I work on my half-broken system, when I'm ready, do as much of the install w/o network as possible / as quickly as possible
03:46.19nezZarioi'll check
03:46.48nezZariomight be worthwhile anyway I have 4 debian systems on my local network they all run debian testing
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03:47.34jmcnaughtnezZario: i use it, it's very easy to set up, and requires a lot less manual intervention than copying stuff into /var/cache/apt/archives
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04:35.49LewocoHow does glxgears decide which OpenGL libraries to load? I have drivers for my hardware installed, but for some reason swrast_dri.so is being loaded...
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04:46.02somiajLewoco: the libaries that are decided to be loaded are think is done via some alternatives system. What hardware do you ahve?
04:46.29Lewocosomiaj, It's a virtualbox vm.
04:46.41Lewocosomiaj, I have the virtualbox-guest packages installed.
04:48.01Lewocosomiaj, I'm beginning to think it's not strictly a OpenGL problem because other virtualbox features (like shared clipboard) are not working either.
04:48.19LewocoI think maybe the virtualbox-guest utilities are not working properly.
04:48.51somiajdid you install the headaers of your kernel so you can compile the guest module?
04:50.21Lewocosomiaj, Yeah headers are installed.
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05:57.41venkat_330i get  usbmon: command not found...
05:58.20venkat_330I am trying sniff some usb data and got some simple reference : http://pipe.oliveira-carvalho.com/blog/tech/monitorusbthroughput
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05:59.50venkat_330When i execute the script i get  usbmon: command not found..
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06:01.09venkat_330my usbmon.ko is available in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/mon/ "
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06:10.00jmcnaughtvenkat_330: "command not found" is complaining about a command, not a kernel module
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06:11.50venkat_330jmcnaught: is usbmon a special package ??
06:12.02venkat_330do i need to install it??
06:12.24jmcnaughtvenkat_330: apt-file doesn't seem to find that file, it could be in a packaged that was removed
06:12.52venkat_330jmcnaught: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/usbmon.txt
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06:15.19jmcnaughtvenkat_330: that mentions usbdump which i also cannot find with apt-file. sorry i don't know where to get those tools
06:16.37venkat_330jmcnaught: ok, let me search on that
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06:17.38jmcnaughtvenkat_330: that document does have commands like "cat /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/3u > /tmp/1.mon.out"
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07:03.10dorkbothello i need an elan1000 driver for my machine i think its called i2c_designware
07:03.13dorkbothow do I get it
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07:17.16muscaHello dorkbot
07:17.20musca,kernels --release jessie-backports
07:17.21juddAvailable kernel versions are: jessie-backports: 4.5.0-0.bpo.2-686 (4.5.4-1~bpo8+1)
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07:24.46dorkboti dunno how to install those?
07:25.01dorkbotdo i follow this ? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-building-installing-a-custom-linux-kernel/
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07:30.35muscadorkbot: no, just install it from the official backports repo
07:30.41musca!bdo
07:30.41dpkgbackports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers.  Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/.  See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
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07:31.07MaBunnyHey guys i need  your help
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07:31.42MaBunnyMy computer keeps shutting down after every few mins without any warning
07:31.52MaBunnyIdk whts going on
07:32.25MaBunnyCurrently i am speaking frm my smartphone
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07:33.12MaBunnyAnd if i try to load any resource heavy app like freeciv or gnome-boxes it shuts down
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07:33.39c-cMaBunny: is it a laptop
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07:34.06c-cMaBunny: you need to fix your laptop battery
07:34.56dorkboti added backport cant find linux
07:34.59dorkbotkernal
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07:37.16PrimalHunterMaBunny, could also be temperature.
07:37.22MaBunnyNo it is a computer
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07:37.45MaBunnyYes my fan's screws are a bit loose
07:38.03MaBunnyBut i tightened thm again
07:38.06MaBunnyIdk
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07:45.52ByteStormhey guys I need another kinda help....something not related to my prev question
07:46.11ByteStormi hav my net going from usb0 interface
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07:46.40ByteStormhow do i get the privileges to kno the packets being sent to and from tht interface
07:46.42ByteStorm???
07:47.14Tekkkzhello! I have a script line »sudo sh -c """echo -e "PATH+=\":/home/${USERNAME}/.bin/scripts\"" >> /etc/profile"""« whichj should add »PATH+=":/home//.bin/scripts"« to /etc/profile. but it just adds »PATH+=:/home//.bin/scripts« why?
07:47.16TomTomToschinstall wireshark if you want to look at the content of packets.
07:47.25ByteStormby the way im MaBunny, /msg nickserv info ByteStorm
07:47.44ByteStormTomTomTOsch i hav wireshark....i just cant use it
07:47.54TomTomToschyou can't?
07:48.27ByteStormi mean i had set it up correctly in my prev debian but now i forgot how to do tht again
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07:49.04ByteStormi just need access to "see" the packets being sent via usb0
07:49.27ByteStormor else ive control over dumpcap
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07:50.58ByteStormThe capture session could not be initiated on interface 'usb0' (You don't have permission to capture on that device).
07:50.58ByteStormPlease check to make sure you have sufficient permissions, and that you have the proper interface or pipe specified.
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07:58.28ByteStormguys???
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08:00.55muscadorkbot: Are you still searching?
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08:03.01muscadorkbot: after adding sources you have to "apt-get update", then try "apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64"  or its i386 companion, what ever your systems architecture is.
08:03.15uni_toschMaBunny, had to go, still looking for an answer?
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08:04.34uni_toschor ByteStorm rather ^
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08:05.49muscaTekkkz:  it looks like ${USERNAME} was empty, or the variable name was misspelled
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08:07.13muscaTekkkz: It is also a best practice to check for existence of the directory before you add it to the PATH.
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08:11.57muscaTekkkz: You should find an example with "grep -C1 'HOME/bin' ~/.profile"   (well, that depends on the contents of your own .profile, of course)
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08:17.38MaBunnyYes uni_tosch....srry i had gone to eat lunch
08:17.47Preukhello, i have some weird things on KDE (sid) from recent updates
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08:18.24Preukwhenever I try to perform session management command (lock, switch user, etc.) my session gets destroyed, any clue?
08:18.31ByteStormhmm yes
08:18.48Preuki was given some pointers about plasma-integration helping with this issue, but it seems weird
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08:28.08ByteStormok wireshark is running now
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08:30.40MaBunnyMy computer switched off again
08:30.43MaBunny:(
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08:31.13MaBunnyUni_tosch you said you could help me???
08:32.09MaBunnyOk im screwing up the fan reel tight
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08:32.22uniToschNot on my pc right now. But there are explenations online how to get Wireshark running without root
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08:32.58uniToschMe thinks it was reconfiguring Wireshark and adding the user to the Wireshark group
08:33.11MaBunnyOh wireshark....its running now
08:33.44MaBunnyBut my computer keeps shutting down again n again
08:34.04uniToschDid you watch the temps?
08:34.56MaBunnyNo theres no way to watch the temps
08:35.12bazhangsure there are
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08:35.43uniToschThere is no cpu without thermostat
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08:35.58MaBunnyMy cpu is 2007 era
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08:36.21bazhangis this an overclock situation
08:36.31MaBunnyNo
08:36.45bazhangso get the temp checked
08:36.54MaBunnyIm not doing such stuff in my computer
08:36.59MaBunnyOk will try
08:37.13bazhang,v sensors
08:37.14juddNo package named 'sensors' was found in amd64.
08:37.16leetcoolfinally recovered from read only fs
08:37.40bazhangperhaps its lm-sensors
08:37.49MaBunnyBut is there a way to load some proprietary kernel pieces tht i dont kno of
08:37.58MaBunnyYes lm sensors
08:39.46MaBunnyEarlier while installing conky it said tht it needed some kernel pieces
08:39.56MaBunnyIdk which of thm
08:40.29MaBunnyI hav included the backports - proprietary repos in sources.list
08:40.50bazhangthe message read 'some kernel pieces'?
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08:41.19MaBunnyNo idk whts it called
08:41.40bazhangpastebin the exact commands and errors
08:41.59MaBunnyHaha im in my smartphone
08:42.18MaBunnyScrewing up the fan of my motherboard now
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08:42.25bazhangthen do it when you are not
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08:42.29uniToschThe handbook has pretty clear instructions on how to use lm Sensors  https://debian-administration.org/article/327/Monitoring_your_hardware's_temperature
08:43.21MaBunnyUnitosch resend me the link whn im in my computer pls
08:43.29uniToschs/handbook/d-administration
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08:44.40uniToschAre you joking? Just bookmark it on your phone...
08:44.59bazhanghis phone is zero g
08:45.03uniToschOr Google debian + lm-sensors
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08:45.10uniToschRight...
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08:46.06MaBunnyOk done screwing switching on my computer
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08:48.52ByteStormok uniTosch can you send me the link???
08:49.19bazhanghttps://debian-administration.org/article/327/Monitoring_your_hardware's_temperature
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08:58.19Mogambook bazhang how do i type this:   # cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV i2c
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09:01.58Xat`Hi guys ! I need to download debian 7, but I'm not able to find it
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09:03.54vvujaXat`, one sec
09:04.32nkuttler!tell Xat` about install wheezy
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09:05.07Xat`thank, there are 3 DVD for Debian 7 ?!
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09:05.50Mogambook guys ive loaded the modules....how do i start them???
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09:07.16vadmesteHello everybody. Is there any Debian installer with backported packages ? I have a Dell XPS 13 which can connect to the internet only via wireless, however this latter seems not supported in the current stable Debian but it does with backported packages.. Any thoughts?
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09:07.24vvujaXat`, which architecture?
09:07.28Xat`amd64
09:07.31vvujaok
09:07.54vvujahttp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.11.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.11.0-amd64-CD-1.iso
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09:08.00vvujaI think this is all you need
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09:08.12vvujanewest version of Wheezy is 7.11.0
09:08.17vvujadownload CD-1 iso
09:08.21vvujainstall minimal system
09:08.32vvujaand then with apt-get and configured network sources which you can find on Internet
09:08.37vvujadownload whatever you want from mirror
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09:08.42Xat`ok thank
09:08.45vvujayw
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09:08.58blutHello, I'm working with the preseed configuration. I want to make it use a custom shell script for partitioning. Is a there a way to use that directly instead of the udeb work around?
09:08.59vvujaif you want complete install
09:09.04vvujahttp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.11.0/amd64/iso-cd/
09:09.12vvujago to this link and download all ISO images
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09:10.01bazhangblut, is that ubuntu or debian
09:10.24blutubuntu
09:10.37bazhangwhy post here
09:11.12bluti also asked in #ubuntu, but since it's the debian-installer and originated here, I assumed someone here might be knowledgable on the subject
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09:31.47rdzwhy is mysql 5.6 not in Debian stable?
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09:32.30moty66What is the best place to start X11 and a web browser after boot process compete? I am on debian jessie
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09:33.55moty66do I have to create a service for that or do I have to edit /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service ?
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09:33.58blutmoty66: at home
09:34.45moty66blut: I am looking to do that without any user interaction, I would like to create a kiosk browser
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09:35.39blutmoty66: just create an autologgin with minimal window manager (e.g. dwm stripped down)
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09:35.59bluteasiest way would be through a .xinitrc
09:36.17moty66blut, I am using openbox as window manager, but I can't understand how systemd works and when do I have to startx
09:37.29blutdo you have a graphical target?
09:37.42blutor better, are you using graphical as your target?
09:38.21moty66when I type systemctl get-default, the output is graphical.target
09:38.48moty66but I have nothing about graphical target inside /etc/systemd/system
09:38.57blutwell then it would probably start the display-manager.service
09:39.11blutis there a default.target?
09:39.38moty66nope
09:39.55moty66here is the list of targets: getty.target.wants  halt.target.wants  multi-user.target.wants  paths.target.wants  poweroff.target.wants  reboot.target.wants  sockets.target.wants  sshd.service  syslog.service
09:40.29blutI'm not using debian so I'm not sure where it is on your system. try locate
09:41.16moty66I have a file in /lib/systemd/system/default.target
09:41.18Includes08<PROTECTED>
09:41.58blutmoty66: do you have a display manager installed? Do you even want one?
09:42.12ByteStormguys is there a way to add a repo to  sources.list without using any text editor like nano or vim??? of course using su
09:42.22blutByteStorm: cat
09:42.45ByteStormcat??? can you give me an example blut??
09:42.48moty66I have openbox installed
09:42.48blutByteStorm: or echo
09:42.52vvujaBytestorm: echo "line" >> sources.list
09:43.01ByteStormok thnx
09:43.10vvujaline is of course your repo line
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09:43.37ByteStormalso can it be this:  cat "line" >> sources.list
09:43.49aleksaI've followed https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp but I cannot run html from ~/public_html
09:44.27aleksaI type localhost/user/ in browser but all I get is Not Found
09:45.00aleksaHowever, I can access all files from /var/www/html
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09:46.38aleksaWait, ~user works, but "user" without tilda doesn't?
09:46.38moty66aleksa: try http://localhost/~username
09:46.45aleksaI understood
09:46.49aleksait works
09:46.51vvujaByteStorm, sorry I was away
09:46.55jellyaleksa: correct, that's how mod_userdir does things
09:46.57vvujaBytestorm no it can not be cat
09:47.05ByteStormok
09:47.07aleksaI believe it should be emphasized in article on debian wiki
09:47.11vvujacat would expect file as first param
09:47.15vvujanot line
09:47.22vvujaecho expects stringt
09:47.23vvujastring
09:47.28ByteStormok
09:47.33aleksaThis sentence --> Place some web content in ~/public_html and see the results at http://localhost/~username
09:48.03vvujaaleksa, of course if mod_userdir is enabled on apache2 by default
09:48.06aleksaAnother sentence should be added on Wiki, saying that tilda (~) has to preceed the username
09:48.15vvujaaleksa, which can be or can't be
09:48.26aleksaTilda is an obligatory prefix then
09:48.38vvujaaleksa, if not then you need to explain how to enable mod_userdir in apache2 as module
09:48.56jellyit's a wiki.  Perhaps you can login/register and fix it?
09:48.59vvujaand then how to configure it in sites-available as "mod_userdir public_html" line
09:49.18aleksajelly, I don't feel free to edit Wiki on English. I'm not a native English speaker.
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09:49.58uniToschIf you have Typos someone will fix it pretty fast
09:50.07uniToschContent is more important.
09:51.09aleksauniTosch, ok, I'll do it
09:51.33uniToschX)
09:52.16aleksaAccount creation failed: Due to an ongoing spam attack, this wiki is configured to not automatically create wiki accounts for some users. Please contact wiki@debian.org first if you wish to create an account, and describe what you want to do in the wiki..
09:53.29uniToschAh. That or asking #debian-www on oftc if it's not too much of a Problem.
09:53.31aleksauniTosch, or any other people that already have got an account there, please, be kind and add the sentence instead of me. I cannot even get an account there, not without contacting stuff first, which seems like a complication to me
09:54.04uniToschis on his phone right now
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10:12.54HD|LaptopHi all
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10:16.14HD|Laptopbut of course dnsmasq fails to start because wlan0 isn't UP yet
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10:18.24blutHello, I'm working with the preseed configuration. I want to make it use a custom shell script for partitioning. Is a there a way to use that directly instead of the udeb work around?
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10:20.53vltHello. Just last week I installed (after years of server only) a Debian system with a desktop environment. I’m pretty sure sure there was no firefox package so I installed iceweasel. Now I ran apt update and dist-upgrade and now there’s a "firefox" pkg available and a "firefox-esr" (plus l10n) even installed. What happened here?
10:23.12RoyKvlt: http://news.softpedia.com/news/debian-is-switching-to-mozilla-firefox-after-a-decade-of-using-iceweasel-501647.shtml
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10:34.56vltRoyK: Thank you.
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10:36.03vltThe article is from march. Did I do something special to get the firefox packages with the last update or is it a coincedence that this happened now?
10:36.49uniToschThe change is pretty new on stable.
10:37.06jellyvlt: a very recent point release update introduced this change to debian 8
10:37.39jellythis is fine and expected, you did nothing wrong
10:37.54vltOk, thank you!
10:37.59uniToschIt's just bumping Firefox to the next esr because the the last reached eol.
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10:38.24uniToschAnd they skipped the rebrand because it's no longer needed.
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10:48.18Netekhi all, I currently have a WordPress site on a VPS running PHP5.6 and I wish to upgrade to PHP7.  Can anybody recommend any links for good starting points to do this?
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10:49.50uniToschPhp7 is not officially in debian stable. Is there a practical reason you want to "Upgrade" to php7 ?
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10:51.11NetekuniTosch I have a website that is running very slow with PHP 5.6 and with local testing PHP7 is much faster
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10:51.20uniToschYou will find unofficial ways on how to install php7 on stable. A quick Google Search will help. Those are not supported here, though.
10:51.40NetekA big difference in speed.  Do you know when Debian will have PHP7?
10:51.53uniToschWith the next Release.
10:52.06uniToschAbout a year probably.
10:52.11Netekok :(
10:52.18uniTosch,i php7.0
10:52.23juddNo package named 'php7.0' was found in jessie/amd64.
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10:52.28Netekyou are?
10:52.38uniTosch,v php7.0
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10:52.39juddPackage: php7.0 on amd64 -- stretch: 7.0.7-4; sid: 7.0.7-4
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11:49.09CQdo 2,5" IDE HDDs require power? I'm thinking of removing the CD Drive from a system and replacing it with an IDE HDD
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11:49.24Arahael<PROTECTED>
11:49.27CQor is there enough power over the cable itself? the drive doesn't have separate input for power
11:49.47ArahaelCQ: cd drives also require power.
11:49.50FinalXshould be, yeah
11:50.03c-cCQ: maybe #hardware
11:50.16FinalX2.5" IDE cables are slightly different, they have additional power lanes afaik
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11:51.23CQthe CDROM cable doesn't fit anyway, seems to be a specoal cable...
11:51.28CQspecial
11:51.41CQannoying, I just trashed a bunch of old ribbon cables last year : (
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11:52.51JyZyXELis it possible to run android apps on debian?
11:53.08TheQuestionmarkWith an emulator, indeed.
11:53.16JyZyXELwhats the name of the emulator?
11:53.38TheQuestionmarkGenymotion.
11:54.00TheQuestionmarkWell basically it's a preconfigured VirtualBox container but it has Android running inside.
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11:56.08PreukJyZyXEL: or you could just install android dev tools, run an intel-based image in emulator
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11:56.36JyZyXELPreuk: whaaat
11:56.43Preukor any intel android image in virtualbox, yes
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11:57.03uniToschWhich is slow a-f without the Intel hw acceleration iirc.
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11:58.52TheQuestionmarkHeh... received some old HP TC4200 today. Gotta do something with it for my chef. That's gonna be fun.
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12:07.54JyZyXELPreuk: do you mean google-android-build-tools-installer
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12:16.03paul_grozavhello, is there any way I could check the version of g++ in debian testing/unstable ?
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12:16.58uniTosch,v g++
12:16.59juddPackage: g++ on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; stretch: 4:5.3.1-3; sid: 4:5.3.1-3; experimental: 4:6-20160101-3
12:17.11FinalXalso, https://packages.debian.org/
12:17.46uniToschAlso apt-cache policy g++ if you are running testing
12:19.25paul_grozavthanks, all, that's the thing, that I'm on stable and I was just curious about what I would get if I were to switch. Thanks
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12:20.57uniToschNite that the 4: in front is the Epoch, not the major Software Version number.
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12:30.08damascenoHello. I'm trying to mount /var during the boot without using fstab (Because it's an AWS EC2 instance, I'm doing this via CloudFormation, that's why I can't use fstab, only after the reboot), this is what I'm doing: http://pastebin.com/aKx1UvmE it copies all the /var and /var/log files but when I try to join the domain I receive the following message: realm: Couldn't connect to system bus: Could not connect: Connection refused. it
12:30.15damascenoDoes anyone have any clue?
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12:45.20ByteStormhey guys
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12:45.41ByteStormim now installing jessie 8.4 in a virtual machine
12:46.22vltByteStorm: Good luck!
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12:48.36ByteStormdoes installing Debian desktop environment load any gui stuff???
12:49.05ByteStormi want only cli in tht virtual machine
12:49.16ByteStormcommand line interface
12:49.22kskByteStorm: istn a desktop GUI stuff? the fuck..
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12:49.39ByteStormksk ????
12:49.53Arahaelksk: that language isn't appropriate.
12:50.03babilenByteStorm: Only if you install a desktop environment. There's a package selection step and you just have to make sure to *not* tick the "desktop environment" checkbox or select a specific one
12:50.05kskByteStorm: how can you think a "desktop" version of a opearating system has no GUI Stuff?
12:50.36ByteStormhmm....ksk debian has
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12:50.40babilenksk: Please, obviously the question wasn't worded perfectly, but try to be helpful and nice.
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12:51.05ByteStorm]babilen so i uncheck the Debian desktop environment???
12:51.34babilenByteStorm: If you install the "desktop" you get "a GUI" (which is probably what ksk was referring to), so if you don't want to install a desktop environment then don't select it during the software selection stage.
12:51.49babilenYes, yes you do .. I'd install the standard task though
12:52.01uniToschIf you don't want a gui then yes. Else Gnome gets Installed by default.
12:52.04Arahaeland "ssh server".
12:52.21ByteStormksk it says in the options menu Debian desktop environment
12:52.44ByteStormand i asked if checking tht loads any gui stuff
12:52.57uniToschIt will load Gnome iirc.
12:52.58ByteStormok thnx guys
12:53.15uniToschEven if Gnome is not selected.
12:53.30babilenJust do not install the desktop environment task
12:53.37babilen(unless you want it)
12:53.49babilennor select a specific one
12:53.49ByteStormok babilen...ive unchecked it
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12:54.39ByteStormwell what set the alarm bells ringing was the number of packages being downloaded....so i thought i did ask you guys
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12:57.59vltByteStorm: I usually install my Debian CLI only machines using debootstrap.
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13:01.01bennypr0faneHello, what's the recommended way for tracking resovling unsatisfied dependencies? I can't isntall Rainlendar: http://pastie.org/private/tq7k0lg6l4vpwctswcaxeg
13:01.14bennypr0fanehttp://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php?option=com_rny_download&all=1
13:02.30babilenbennypr0fane: Run "apt-get -f install" and hope that the dependencies can be satisfied. Please don't install random .deb files though as they may happily break your system.
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13:03.39bennypr0fanebabilen, So downloading jpeg8 from here https://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy/libjpeg8 and install it separately would be such a random thing I shouldn't do?
13:04.04julius_hi
13:04.15bennypr0faneapt-get -f install just removes unconfigured rainlendar package again...
13:04.18babilenjudd: v libjpeg8
13:04.19juddPackage: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- squeeze: 8b-1; wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1; sid: 8d1-2
13:04.32bennypr0faneI am on Wheezy
13:04.51babilenbennypr0fane: And "apt-get -f install" doesn't install that packagre?
13:04.56bennypr0faneno
13:05.00julius_is there a common way to let users authenticate via a website to have a log of what connections they used on the network?
13:05.20babilenbennypr0fane: Show me the output of "apt-cache policy libjpeg8" and "apt-get -f install" on http://paste.debian.net please
13:05.35babilendpkg: show sources.list
13:05.35dpkgPlease pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list.  The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of:  head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
13:05.44babilenbennypr0fane: ^ that also
13:05.47bennypr0fanehttp://pastie.org/private/w9abcjf9ivzqrcaqohfug
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13:05.51babilenRun "apt-get update" before doing any of this
13:06.22bennypr0fanealright, good call ^_^
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13:07.57bennypr0faneis there a utility that will pipe the terminal output driectly to paste.debian.net
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13:08.36bennypr0fane?
13:08.37babilenPlenty (pastebinit, wgetpaste, ...) but you can use pastie.org
13:08.54babilenAs long as it is not pastebin.com or a similarly broken one it's fine :)
13:09.20babilen"cmd  | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
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13:09.23babilenis also nice
13:10.06babilenbennypr0fane: But don't you have the ability to just copy and paste the output of multiple commands easily in your graphical session?
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13:11.37bennypr0fanebabilen, if you mean just ctrl+c, sure. I was just wondering if I could aslo use pastie.org or paste.debian.net with one of these cli tools
13:11.38user_____hi, does anyone use stretch and has the new cuda 7.5 driver running?
13:11.55user_____I can install it and it works but it has problems with the ABI version of my xorg-server
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13:12.14user_____I dont know if I can downgrade to a xorg-server with the needed ABI version
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13:12.40jellyuser_____: ask in #debian-next, over on irc.oftc.net
13:13.16user_____ok jelly :)
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13:13.32jellymind the different network
13:14.33bennypr0fanebabilen, not sure what you mean by multiple commands though. I can just Ctrl+C them one after another
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13:16.06babilenbennypr0fane: Sure, but you could put the output of all comamnds into a single pastebin
13:16.37julius_i installed a new debian with debootstrap onto a seperate partition and i did run update-grub. but at boot time grub does only show debian/linux.   it was installed onto the lvm partition; /dev/t560-vg/ubuntu15.04    ( the name is old, im sure i installed debian to it)    grep ubuntu /boot/grub/grub.cfg     shows notjing?
13:17.34kcirickhi... I can't find a good guide to building a deb package for a homemade code (not from debian repo) that uses ./configure;make;make install process
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13:18.06markybob!tell kcirick about checkinstall
13:18.13markybobthat's the easy way
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13:19.36kcirickmarkybob: thanks
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13:23.41kcirickmarkybob: that was easy, thanks again!
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13:24.12markybobkcirick: np
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13:31.04bennypr0fanebabilen, ~ $ apt-cache policy libjpeg8
13:31.04bennypr0faneN: Paket libjpeg8 kann nicht gefunden werden.
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13:35.40bennypr0fanebabilen, http://pastie.org/private/vjt5dcqz7abhhdhxrcdyg
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13:38.30jhutchinsbennypr0fane: if you preceed your command with LC_ALL=C it'll translate the outout, although that one's not hard to interpret.
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13:40.19bennypr0fanejhutchins, ah thanks a lot, that'll be very useful
13:40.21babilendpkg: solydxk
13:40.21dpkgSolydX and SolydK are GNU/Linux distributions <based on debian>.  They are not supported in #debian, use #solydxk on irc.freenode.net instead.  http://solydxk.com/
13:40.31babilenbennypr0fane: ^ -- also jessie is not wheezy
13:40.33bennypr0fanejhutchins, alsways into english?
13:40.45bennypr0fanebabilen, right, sorry
13:40.51bennypr0fanegot confused
13:41.07babilenAnd we only support Debian in here, not its derivatives
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13:41.57bennypr0faneyup, I know. Guilty as charged. they don't have an IRC channel... :-(
13:42.51babilen#solydxk ?!
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13:43.15babilenhaha, rather empty .. well, feel free to install and use Debian and come here for support
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13:44.21bennypr0faneI just figured this kind of problem is really solved the same way in everything debian
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13:47.36bennypr0faneanyway Thanks a lot, guys!, Have a good one!
13:50.33somiajkcirick: if you are intersted the new matainers guide can help tell you how to set up a debian/ dir, also debian helper (dh_make and its other programs) can automate a lot of this for simple cases (if what you want to do is make a .deb, for isntall checkinstall or stow work great to manage local source isntalls)
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13:53.06kciricksomiaj: Thanks for the info. checkinstall does what I want. I'm not a dev, so no need to keep track of versions, create deb repo or other things that are involved :-)
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13:53.18nwehello, I have setup so my machines are installed via preseed, and everything is working create execpt that I only get console output on ttyS0 not on my tty0...
13:53.44somiajkcirick: none of that is envolved to make personal .deb packages. I personally use dh_make and automate it. But installing things in /usr/local is just fine too.
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14:05.11w0bnimy installer has been stuck at 0% resizing partition for a long time
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14:06.33w0bnithis is on a macbook pro, shrinking a pre-made empty partition
14:07.10w0bniany idea what that means?
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14:32.02jhutchinsw0bni: How big?
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14:33.07eikasemhttps://paste.debian.net/738700/
14:33.27eikasemwhat is happening here? both nginx-common nginx-light are already installed. why is nginx-common an extra package?
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14:34.20blindit's being upgraded, and you didn't specify it to be installed.. so it's "extra"
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14:38.16eikasemi see. to it's extra packages when installed, NEW packages, whenever an upgrade pulls in new dependencies
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14:39.42eikasemblind: thank you
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14:49.57ByteStormhey guys im currenrtly installing debian as a command line interface in my virtual machine
14:50.22ByteStormit stops at the Install the GRUB boot loader process
14:50.44ByteStormits fails installing at tht step
14:50.50ByteStormcan you help me guys???
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14:51.09ByteStormim in the graphical mode of installation btw
14:51.38ChrisHcheck using ALT-F4 (dunno how to get into instalaltion log in GUI mode, never used that)
14:52.35ByteStormok
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15:01.21ChipsHello there, I just come quickly to ask if 3G usb keys are working on Debian to have network everywhere without to have to connect on every Wi-Fi spot you find. Maybe they key will be recognized but it needs a GUI (on Windows, there is a software for it) to enter the login and password to be able to use 3G network.
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15:06.41ChrisHChips: most simply work with Network Manager and usbmodeswitch installed
15:07.28ChipsChrisH: Good to know
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15:09.58BinBasherIs there something like a "good news!" package? It's kind of depressing to only see bad news when a message pops up.
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15:11.24ByteStormguys i tried to output the log to my base debian system
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15:12.23ByteStormits in a img file
15:12.42ByteStormwill i take the contents of tht img file to a disk???
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15:14.39axc1298to install pepperflash for firefox i need to have chrome installed on my system?
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15:19.35ByteStormwait i had loaded the contents of tht initrd.img file to my pendrive using su
15:19.50ChrisHaxc1298: check using apt-cache show PKG  to see the dependencies... on my system I cannot see chrome as dependency
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15:20.04ByteStormbut now when i load it (the pendrive) it doesnt show up on my non-root user acc
15:20.38ChrisHByteStorm: What?  looking into initrd.img does not make any sense, unless you troubleshoot boot problem with exotic HW
15:20.48axc1298ChrisH: are you checking pepperflashplugin-nonfree?
15:21.06ByteStormyeah im having a problem installing debian on my virtual machine
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15:21.50ChrisHaxc1298: Suggests: chromium <-- what does lsb_release -a show?
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15:24.57ByteStormguys any help???
15:26.23ChrisHaxc1298: OK. can you past the command incl. the output in C locale onto paste.debian.net please
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15:26.48ChrisHByteStorm: My suggestion is: reinstall using the text installer
15:26.52axc1298ChrisH: you mean lsb_release -a?
15:27.03ByteStormok
15:27.11ByteStormgawd
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15:28.23ByteStormok im not loading the boot loader
15:28.35ByteStormill learn the kernel ...how to use it
15:29.17ChrisHaxc1298: no the install you tried.
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15:36.26axc1298ChrisH: i will have to check it in a little while when i go on my other computer. but on packages.debian.org it says it will download chrome. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/pepperflashplugin-nonfree
15:37.09axc1298the browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash package makes that work for firefox
15:37.18axc1298so they both need to be installed, i believe
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15:40.42ChrisHaxc1298: it says again: suggests!  not depends!  if you run apt-get install XXX it is expected not to install the recommended stuff (side note: Ubuntu does)
15:41.18axc1298ChrisH: are you sure? i thought it always installs the recommended stuff
15:41.24axc1298unless you use --no-install-recommends
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15:47.22ChrisHaxc1298: My experience was: default is --no-install-recommends on Debian and --install-suggests ob Ubuntu (I allways got angry on that)
15:48.16axc1298ChrisH: that's not the case. --no-install-recommends is not default on debian
15:48.38axc1298not sure about ubuntu
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15:49.38axc1298or maybe i misunderstood you. i mean the correct flag is --no-install-recommends, but it's just not the default behaviour when you install something in debian
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15:50.41ChrisHaxc1298: http://paste.debian.net/738726/   for me its the default on that and other boxes I use
15:52.02markybobthose are suggested
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16:12.26ebye<PROTECTED>
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16:12.32ebyehah, lol
16:13.14gnat_xtime to generate a different password. ;)
16:13.17jiggawattzebye ▸ u dun goofed
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16:13.34jiggawattzthat looks like a 1Password password
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16:14.01jiggawattzebye ▸ Good job on choosing a strong password
16:14.11ksk:)
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16:29.24ebyeI tried running debian in boxes (ubuntu gnome host), why is the performance so much worse for boxes, than using vmware?
16:29.49ebyeor virtualbox
16:30.03jellyyou probably want to ask the vendor of this "boxes" thing
16:30.10ebyejelly: gnome boxes
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16:31.04NoImNotNineVoltvmware provides a vnc client too?
16:31.08jellyebye: if you get the software directly from gnome, then that's who you'd probably ask.
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16:31.44NoImNotNineVoltalso, how does one use a company like vmware?
16:31.46jellyif you got it from the linux distribution (ubuntu), then ask those people
16:32.00ebyeNo: vmware workstation
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16:32.27NoImNotNineVoltvmware workstation is a hypervisor. gnome boxes is a vnc client.
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16:33.12NoImNotNineVoltthey don't do the same thing, so it's not clear how their performance can be compared.
16:33.30NoImNotNineVoltit's like asking why your calculator is so much faster than your car.
16:33.35ebyeit can also create vms, which is what I did
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16:34.34NoImNotNineVolti think you'r misunderstanding what gnome boxes does.
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16:35.46NoImNotNineVoltso you're asking why libvirt takes longer to create a new vm than does vmware workstation?
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16:36.18ebyenot creation, why performance using it is so much worse
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16:36.27ebyejust sluggish moving windows about and what not
16:37.05NoImNotNineVoltthat's how you benchmark your vm performance? how do you account for confounding factors, like the performance of the display transport layer?
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16:37.48ebyeI haven't benchmarked anything... you can tell right away the experience is worse
16:38.01NoImNotNineVoltah, so it's a 'ux' issue, not a performance issue?
16:38.04ebyejust wondered if there's an obvious reason, if there's some configuration to do
16:38.07juanolonhey ppl. do you know any blueetoth manager on the cli? like wicd-curses for wifi
16:38.36ebyeNoImNotNineVolt, I don't know what the issue is, that's why I'm asking...
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16:38.40NoImNotNineVolti'd guess that it has nothing to do with the performance of the underlying virtualization system but more to do with the fact that gnome boxes is a vnc client.
16:39.15NoImNotNineVoltthat is, if you install a vnc server on your vmware workstation vm, and connect to that using any vnc client (gnome boxes or other), you'll see the same performance as any other vnc session.
16:39.30ebyealright...
16:39.46ebyemaybe
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16:40.16markybobvmware comes with a built-in  vnc server. no need to install another on guest
16:40.47NoImNotNineVoltor that.
16:41.05NoImNotNineVoltmarkybob: the company itself? their entire product line?
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16:41.49markybobi was talking about workstation.
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16:41.58NoImNotNineVoltgotcha.
16:42.08NoImNotNineVolthas never used vmware workstation
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16:42.44ebyewhat are my hypervisor options then
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16:42.53ebyeapart from virtualbox and vmware workstation
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16:43.18markybobi like virtualbox for personal use. i have to use vmware workstation for work. not worth the money for personal stuff.
16:43.26NoImNotNineVoltxen.
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16:46.17NoImNotNineVoltebye: my point was that the issue isn't the hypervisor, but the display transport you're using.
16:46.48NoImNotNineVoltebye: vnc is slow. no matter which hypervisor you use, if you connect to your guests over vnc, it will be slow.
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16:47.41ebyeNoImNotNineVolt: yeah... I thought it could be used for vnc also, not that it was a vnc connection when i connected to a vm I'd created
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16:57.28rocksteadyHi all.
16:57.43rocksteadyI have a problem with traffic/interface stats keep resetting on its own (ifconfig, ip), while iptables shows the correct RX/TX amount. What could be the reason?
16:57.50rocksteadyThe interface is up all the time.
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17:12.16SirLagzif I dd zeroes to a SSD, trim should ensure that everything is marked as available right?
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17:13.11blutrocksteady: ifconfig, i think, stores the traffic as int or something limited. It resets at about 4.2 GB
17:14.15rocksteadyblut: on other devices the traffic counter goes up to several hundred GB
17:14.25FinalXSirLagz: pretty much, but I'd never recommend dd'ing zeroes to an SSD, it'll increase the wear like mad. just make an ext4 filesystem and use fstrim on it while mounted.
17:14.34rocksteadyI don't think this is a limitation of the kernel or the int value itself
17:14.53SirLagzFinalX: I didn't trust the SSD to figured dding zeroes to the whole SSD will make sure all of it works lol
17:14.55blutrocksteady: maybe it was a raspberry pi related issue. I'm not sure where I read that
17:14.59SirLagzs/to/so/
17:15.06rocksteadyhowever I've never seen a value reported by ifconfig higher than 4 GB on _this_ device
17:15.25FinalXSirLagz: if your system supports it, you could secure erase your drive as well if you want to return it to the factory state :)
17:15.27rocksteadyblut: Yep it's something similar (banana pi)
17:15.46rocksteadyOther embedded devices (mips) show a different behaviour
17:15.57SirLagzFinalX: not sure if it does or not, but dding zeroes does what I need. thanks for the help
17:16.18FinalXok
17:16.37SirLagzjust wanted to make sure all of it is writable and there's no bad sectors already or anything that would stop me from using all of the SSD
17:16.54SirLagzof course now that I've done the Zeroing, I'm sure it will promptly blow up on me next time I power it on
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17:17.21FinalXwell, if you have a 128GB SSD and you zero the whole drive, you just increased wear level of it by that amount, that's never healthy for an SSD :)
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17:17.36blutrocksteady: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27592&p=247382
17:17.44SirLagzFinalX: very true
17:17.50FinalXplus, if you zero just a bunch of data or a partition, you never know what "sector"it gets written to, because that's pretty random due to the controller
17:18.06FinalXand you'll never get to the reserved blocks until your general blocks fail
17:18.09SirLagzFinalX: hence I zeroed the whole drive :D
17:18.35SirLagzat least zeroing the whole drive will make sure that anything I can currently write to actually works
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17:19.10SirLagzat least thats what my head is telling me...I coudl be wrong though
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17:21.10juanolonhey ppl. do you know any blueetoth manager for the cli? like wicd-curses for wifi
17:21.11rocksteadyblut: Ok, thank you. So there is nothing I have to worry about
17:21.17jhutchinsSirLagz: Or you could leave it up to the controller to take care of that.  It really isn't something you tweak by hand.
17:21.21FinalXSirLagz: I see what you're trying to do, but if you try to write data to a bad "sector", it will just replace it with a spare allocatable sector from the spare pool and you'll never notice it (apart from dumping SMART info)
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17:22.00FinalXmy point is, 1) You won't get anything useful out of it. 2) You increase the wear of your drive by a significant amount and 3) You can never test the entire drive because the controller won't let you.
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17:22.42FinalXand 4 what jhutchins and I just mentioned: controller will replace a bad one with a spare one without you needing to pay attention to it
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17:28.14SirLagzFinalX: unless it's run out already
17:28.26SirLagzFinalX: which happened to another SSD I had recently
17:28.50SirLagznot sure if it was a faulty SSD or it had just been thrashed already to the point where it died
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17:31.51RoyKSirLagz: does it show up in lsblk?
17:32.01SirLagzRoyK: yep, got a couple of them showing up in lsblk now
17:32.14SirLagzRoyK: or do you mean the faulty/dead one?
17:32.21RoyKthen smartctl -x /dev/whatever
17:32.25RoyKyes
17:32.27RoyKor all
17:32.34SirLagzRoyK: oh, never got the faulty one onto a linux box.
17:32.51SirLagzRoyK: that one was the OS drive of a windows machine and windows event log kept spitting out 'bad sector' errors
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17:33.16RoyKsmartctl is you friend, then, SirLagz
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17:33.43SirLagzRoyK: indeed. I'll have to check the dead one when I have a bit of extra time
17:34.06SirLagzbut for now, I have the SSDs picked up by the server so that's all I need for now
17:34.09SirLagzbed time now! g'ngiht all
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17:34.11SirLagzg'night*
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17:52.04[4nna]Hello. How do I make it so that when a user connects with ssh/sftp they can only see one directory.
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17:52.43[4nna]I made a chroot into /var/www/html but I want the connected user to see that directory as the root directory without being able to read any other above it
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17:57.19somiaj[4nna]: I think ssh has an option to chroot the user
17:57.34hexnewbie[4nna]: ChrootDirectory causes the process to chroot after auth
17:57.39[4nna].somiaj, I did that but I can still read any file on the server basically.
17:58.22somiajdouble check your sshd_config with the ChrootDirectory /var/www/html for example
17:58.42somiajalso note that with ssh you may need access to other commands inside that rooted directory, but sftp not so much
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17:59.25hexnewbie[4nna]: Did you read the documentation for ChrootDirectory? You need to have a shell, /dev/null, /dev/zero, etc. inside
17:59.54[4nna]Okay, in that case how do I make it so that an sftp/ssh user can only access and read one folder and one folder only.
17:59.55[4nna]?
18:00.09hexnewbie[4nna]: I'm not sure what happens if chrooting or subsequent chdir fails. I would imagine you're dropped, but I'm not sure
18:00.12somiaj[4nna]: do you want it to only be ssh users or sftp users?
18:00.21[4nna]sftp
18:00.39somiaj[4nna]: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/ seems to be a guide that will work for sftp
18:00.39[4nna]And no executable files also.
18:01.08[4nna]What is %h?
18:01.15somiajhome directory
18:01.21[4nna]Oh.
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18:02.29[4nna]The user just gets disconnected.
18:02.34[4nna]Does not connect...
18:02.44hexnewbieAlso this guide may work for sftp, but will not work for ssh because of the aforementioned devices and executables (mentioned in the man page - though the man page doesn't say they are not required for sftp)
18:03.10[4nna]Oh.
18:03.12somiajyea the guide does go on to give some pointers about ssh, but it should be easier for sftp
18:03.23[4nna]I´m using sftp?
18:03.56[4nna]http://paste.debian.net/738777/
18:04.00[4nna]Just disconnects.
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18:05.24hexnewbie[4nna]: In theory, ChrootDirectory should be a real root (with /bin/sh, /dev/null, etc). You can't just chroot into any directory.  That *may* work for internal-sftp, because it is not executed, just forked (IIRC), but creating a proper chroot may be required.
18:05.27somiaj[4nna]: did you add the 'Subsystem sftp internal-sftp' line
18:05.56[4nna]somiaj yes
18:05.59[4nna]hexnewbie ok
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18:07.43somiaj[4nna]: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/limiting-access-with-sftp-jails-on-debian-and-ubuntu this guide is more directed to debian/ubuntu, but it seems to be the same as the last one. I would double check everything, and make sure the permissions are correct.
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18:08.04somiajalso maybe try to do this in their %h (home dir) as per the guide before modifing it to be the static location you are wanting to use
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18:09.22[4nna]Still disconnects.
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18:19.19LitoIIhello, I want to ask about debian7. After degrated happened nvidia_xxxxxxxx changed to nvdia_yyyyyy but image kernet still points to /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxxxxxx. So after booting system can not be mounted
18:19.23LitoIIAny ideas?
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18:19.59greycatWhat does nvidia have to do with mounting?
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18:20.57LitoIIgreycat, before degration booting  was at /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxxxx device
18:21.05LitoIIfake raid
18:21.08greycatWas "nvidia" your hostname?
18:21.21greycatOr the name of your LVM volume group?
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18:21.28LitoIIthe second
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18:25.52h-dawghow do I get a .deb file of this package? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek
18:26.00h-dawgI am trying to install it on ubuntu
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18:27.56markybobh-dawg: we don't support ubuntu. ask them in #ubuntu
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18:28.12h-dawgIt's a debian package
18:28.27h-dawgI'm not asking you to help me instal it, I just want to get at the .deb file
18:28.30markybobh-dawg: i know. if i give you adivce it might break your ubuntu.
18:28.38ac1dh0n3ycl0udh-dawg: there's a reason it's not in the ubuntu repo's
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18:31.00jmdI'm trying to install debian from a netinst image on a usb stick.  All I get on boot is "filesys_type():usb0 don't find"  What am I doing wrong?
18:31.24markybobjmd: how did you copy it to the usb?
18:31.27jmddd
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18:32.16jmdmarkybob: Was that wrong?
18:32.37markybobjmd: no dd is fine. did you checksum?
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18:33.00jmdno.  I didn't
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18:34.36jmdWhere are the checksums published?
18:34.59markybobjmd: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/
18:35.54markybobassuming that's the netinst you got. it's what the homepage links you to
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18:37.22jmdNo.  It just says check against the "accompanying checksum files".  I don't see any such files.
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18:38.04markybobjmd: sha1sums and sha256sums
18:38.33somiajjmd: they were in the same directory you got the image from. Though if you just downloaded the image you may have not downloaded the checksums
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18:43.54jmdRight.  Well the answer is yes.  The checksum is good.
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19:39.46[4nna]How do I make it so that an sftp user only has access to one single folder and not any other folder above that?
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19:46.55unborn[4nna]: place empty file named nologin into /etc
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19:46.59greycat[4nna]: you have to switch from the external sftp_server to the internal sftp_server, and set up chroot crap... people in #openssh might be better able to help
19:47.12unbornperhaps I am wrong :)
19:47.15greycatit's a really questionable practi e
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19:47.39greycatThere shouldn't be any secrets in any of your other directories, and therefore no reason to place these additional restrictions.
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19:50.43[4nna]Oh really
19:51.05unborn[4nna]: that file should keep them in home folder
19:51.39unbornbut I cannot remember that.. been long time since I use it.. try it out
19:52.06[4nna]unborn wtf
19:52.14[4nna]How?
19:52.29digglrDoes anyone have any experience with Skylake support for debian 8?
19:52.48unborn4ana just create empty file in /etc and name it as: nologin
19:53.01greycat/etc/pam.d/sshd:# Disallow non-root logins when /etc/nologin exists.
19:53.10greycatI don't think unborn's advice is good.
19:53.24greycat/etc/pam.d/login:# Disallows other than root logins when /etc/nologin exists
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19:53.50unborngreycat: non root logins will still let other ssh users browse all folders and files on server
19:54.28greycatunborn: I don't think so.
19:54.31unbornbut that file should keep them only in home folders
19:54.38greycatI am pretty sure you are quite wrong.
19:54.45awwalSeems that if only one DM is installed systemctl doesnt disable/mask the related DM service. I have tried with several DM and always the same: if only 1 display manager is installed in the system, that DM is loaded even if disabled or masked. If there is 2 or more DM's installed, so they can be all disabled. Where / which stuff should I check for find out how debian devs have configured stuff for make the DM loaded anyway?
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19:55.08unbornI said I am not sure.. but Ive done it long long time ago.. :)
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19:56.10frikinzIt's amazing how fail2ban is... failing to detect a lot of brute force attemps on postfix and bind. Had to rewrite several regex. wtf
19:56.32un214So I'm sitting here on a dumbass web browser IRC because somebody likes filtering out root in #debian
19:56.46un214apt-get dist-upgrade broke windows domain authentication
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19:57.12un214I haven't got a clue how to find out what is actually wrong
19:57.17jmcnaughtunborn: preventing logins is a separate concept from permission to browse. also if someone were to disable non-root logins and didn't have an SSH key in root's authorized_keys, they could find it quite difficult to log into a remote system
19:58.15TomTomToschun214: from which to which release did you upgrade?
19:58.41unbornjmcnaught: yeah that is right actually just checked on  my srv..
19:58.43un214should be jessie -> jessie (picking up security patches)
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19:58.53unborngreycat: youve been right as usually :)
19:59.48greycat!jessie samba
19:59.49dpkgA security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <http://bugs.debian.org/820983> for the correct instructions. Win XP clients use NTLM by default; to switch them to NTLMv2 you will need admin, and follow <https://www.imss.caltech.edu/node/396> depending on which XP it is.
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20:01.10un214it's not an XP issue; the linux box can't authenticate against the windows domain controller right now
20:01.33unbornxp?
20:02.06greycatunborn: XP.
20:02.13un214XP -> Windows XP of course
20:02.36greycatAlthough we finally upgraded our standard desktops from XP to Win7 last year, it turns out we still have some straggler (nonstandard) XP machines in use.
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20:03.12unbornI thought xp is dead for more then 6 years.. sorry lads..
20:03.13un214ls -l on /home takes a stupid long time
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20:04.12jhutchinsun214: Stupid number of files?
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20:04.34jhutchinsun214: Failing hardware?
20:05.09un214UID -> username has to time out for every username
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20:05.53un214winbind seems to be completely hosed
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20:06.43greycatun214: outside my experience, I'm afraid, but you could ask #samba what the ramifications of a 4.1 -> 4.2 upgrade might be in your situation
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20:09.37jhutchinsun214: ls -n
20:09.48jhutchinsun214: Which, I know, doesn't solve the root problem.
20:10.02un214ok asking on samba gives it's known broke right now; how to roll back?
20:10.18jhutchinsun214: iirc you might need to find the 4.2 docs on connecting a Linux client.
20:10.28gobelin789Hello! After Debian replaced Iceweasel with Firefox-esr i have the problem that even after a clean install of Firefox-esr the browser is unable to start without a message that the previous session could not be restored. I already deleted the .mozialla folder, removed all plugins and reinstalled firefox but it didn't solve the problem. Does anybody experience similar problems and can help? Thank you in advance!
20:10.52jhutchinsun214: Some of my earliest Linux correspondence was begging for that documentation back when the  kernel.org mailing list was the only place to ask.
20:12.30somiajgobelin789: it might be something in .local or .config that firefox is using.
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20:13.45TomTomToschgobelin789: if you want to disable that function completely you can go into preferences > general > When Firefox starts: ... and select 'Show my home page'
20:13.57somiajgobelin789: maybe not, I'm not seeing anything in either of those direcotrys on my machine.
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20:16.08somiajgobelin789: ahh there is a .cache/mozilla/firefox (maybe that is where it is keeping info about previous sessions)
20:17.04gobelin789somiaj, TomTomTosch: Thank you! I'll check the specific directories.
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20:18.15gobelin789I've deleted .mozilla and .cache/mozilla but it didn't solve the problem. damn.
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20:19.22jmcnaughtgobelin789: definitely no old iceweasel process hanging around? do you have the same problem if you test with a new user account?
20:20.56gobelin789jmcnaught, i purged iceweasel. the log says the following: http://paste.debian.net/738822/
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20:24.08jmcnaughtgobelin789: i don't have /usr/lib/firefox-esr/chrome.manifest on my system but firefox-esr launches okay. what happens if you run "firefox-esr -safe-mode" ?
20:24.44gobelin789i'll check it
20:25.20jmcnaughtgobelin789: also do you have any firefox modules installed from debian packages? "dpkg -l | grep xul-ext"
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20:27.53OverandHey, all!  I have a DEbian 8 system I'm using as a VPN "bridging" box.  Two interfaces, one on a normal network w/internet connectivity and the other assigned onto to 'isolated VPN clients.'  I've got OpenVPN working, and even NAT and DNSMasq; everything works as it should EXCEPT for one thing-
20:28.18OverandIt works without the VPN connected, even though the IPTables rule is e.g. -A FORWARD -o tun0 -i eth0 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
20:28.31OverandSo, if "tun0" doesn't exist, it just... works anyway?
20:29.13OverandThat's not the desired behavior; I don't want traffic going out through the 'local network'; only through the tunnel
20:29.41un214so I'm going to need help backing out samba 4.2 upgrade
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20:35.07awwalA non specific jessie question (sid machine, right now). When I plug my second monitor I get this errors in console (tty1): "[  60.196803] [drm:intel_check_cpu_fifo_underruns [i915] *ERROR* fifo underrun on pipe B"  "[  60.196832] [drm:intel_check_pch_fifo_underruns [i915] *ERROR* pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B" , If I unplug the monitor the error I dont get the error again. Found this https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94684  It similar
20:35.07awwalbut not same circumstances. Any idea? I dont know if it's really kernel related. I dont see the errors in dmesg / xsession-errors. Where to look exactly?
20:35.29OverandHm.  I may actually have sorted mine ut
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20:37.02gobelin789jmcnaught, I did a few things like starting it in --safe-mode like you suggested: now it seems to work. maybe it fixed the problem but I have no idea why. somiaj & TomTomTosch: Thanks for your help!
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20:38.09awwalAnyone using an extra monitor can try plug & unplug the extra monitor and check if the error is displayed in tty1? :)
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20:41.22awwalwhat the f*** is fifo underrun on pipe B - pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B ?
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20:43.15jhutchinsawwal: I think it means you unplugged a monitor and plugged it back in.
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20:43.33jhutchinsawwal: While the system was sending data to it or reading from it.
20:43.48strncatthat sounds complicated
20:43.59strncatwhere does one read about this monitor fifo stuff
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20:45.41maurerAnyone know how to tell rpcbind to stop listening on UDP, and deal only in TCP connections?
20:46.06awwaljhutchins, you think these errors may not be displayed if I deactivate the monitor (xrandr) before I unplug it?
20:46.49awwalbefore plug/unplug it ^
20:46.51cluelesspersonDoes anyone know of any tools to stress the cpu to a certain percentage of utilization constantly?
20:46.57cluelesspersonlike stress ? but
20:47.03cluelesspersonstress --all-cpus 50%
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20:48.48digdilemchange 2 to half the number of cores
20:49.03digdilemhang on, is it -n? the one for cpu, anyway
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20:49.42digdilemstress -c 2
20:50.16cluelesspersondigdilem, great, is there a way to do that at 50% ?
20:50.27digdilemyes, change 2 to half the number of cores
20:50.37digdilemeach N that -c uses will max out one core
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20:50.45cluelesspersondigdilem, that runs two cores at 50%, not 4 cores at 50%
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20:51.23digdilemdoes it? i haven't checked, made an assumption
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20:51.58digdilemi've just hammered a test machine at 10 hogs for cpu, ram and io this evening, for half an hour trying to break it
20:52.06digdilemwhy do you only want to stress to 50%?
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20:56.47awwalAlso, if I boot with the extra monitor plugged lightdm is loaded but I get black screen when in login screen. I added   display-setup-script=xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary  but no luck. wdm works fine
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20:57.04awwalthat happens in both jessie and sid machines
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20:58.45awwalbut xrandr only affects X , so I think the change I made in lightdm config is unnecessary (?)
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20:59.48awwalwhat is wrong with lightdm not showing up when booting with an extra monitor?
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21:00.17awwalwdm & sddm have no issues at all
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21:11.49julius_hi
21:11.51awwalXfce handles perfectly dual monitoring; all (panels, apps in use ...) in the primary monitor and in the extra monitor it only shows the application window I dragged there. But I wasn't able to achive that with other WM's (openbox, fvwm, fluxbox, awesome). What xfce does exactly and how it achives that perfectly?
21:12.33julius_what does update-grub need to create a entry in grub.cfg if i installed a system to a partition?     somehow update-grub is not adding my second debian to grub.cfg, it was installed with debootstrap
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21:14.05awwalprimary monitor (ldvs1) is 1366x768 and the extra (vga1) is 1280x1024, but xfce uses the maximum resolution for both monitors. wondering so how xfce does that so good without resolution problems...
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21:16.50awwalbut that "perfection" is only achieved if the position of the second monitor (vga) is at the right of the LCD laptop (ldvs1)
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21:17.32hexnewbieawwal: Everything should be able to do that without any issue. In particular, console xrandr and KDE do.
21:17.43TomTomToschjulius_: did you follow the docs? https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/apds03.html.en
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21:18.18TomTomToschjulius_: hinting at fstab and kernel install in particular.
21:18.22julius_TomTomTosch, yes...i just realized what i was
21:18.25hexnewbieawwal: Considered changing the DM? :)
21:18.34julius_no linux-image-amd64 on that system
21:18.55TomTomToschit might be a good idea to read that article and see if you missed something.
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21:20.32awwalhexnuebie, no doubt that kde can achive that but I dont use it. And I'm not really familiar with xrandr; sure it can do that too but will have to lear about it's advanced functions. Change DM? DE you meant :P No, right now. Xfce does all what I need :P
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21:20.41awwalhexnewbie
21:21.54TomTomToschWhat's wrong with just using a different DM?
21:21.55julius_TomTomTosch, yes im doing that
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21:23.13hexnewbieawwal: Technically, my monitors are screwed in the DM, because i never bothered to configure them (they are OK in KDM after I logout though). But I never even cared how the DM looks.
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21:24.45awwalhexnewbie, the pronlem with lightdm DM is that it doesn't show up if I boot with the extra monitor, I get black screen instead of the lightdm login screen
21:24.46TomTomToschmaybe it has problems parsing your command. tried pushing it into a script and calling that script from display-setup-script=  ?
21:25.32julius_TomTomTosch, one question though: now that i got locales installed and configured, why do i still get check your local settings if i exit and chroot into the system again?
21:25.54hexnewbieawwal: Which is why I suggested trying/using a different DM (even knowing that mine, KDM, isn't completely all right--due to my negligence)
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21:27.33awwaljulius, have you tried to run update-grub in both systems? it may help. I had similar issue having dual boot jessie /sid (normal install , no deboostrap stuff, and updating grub in both systems solved my issue
21:27.59awwalhexnewbie, yes, right now I use 'wdm' and all fine. lightdm disabled
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21:30.50sl4v3anyone setup the zend debugger before? i have a quick question on how that's accomplished.
21:31.23TomTomToschjulius_: not sure. possibly running locale-gen en_US.UTF-8  (or whatever locale you want) and dpkg-reconfigure locales  might help.
21:31.30sl4v3i'm supposed to move the dummy.php file to the document root. don't i also have to have my eclipse project configured as the document root in apache?
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21:32.17awwalI have debian amd64 VM in my i386 system. How can I install the virtualbox-guest-additions-iso amd64 for my debian amd64 guest  being my host i386?
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21:32.51Brigoawwal, from internet?
21:33.10awwalBrigo, from deb repos
21:33.39TomTomToschjulius_: cat /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED gives a list of supported locales
21:33.45Brigothem adm64 VM shoul point to the right repos.
21:34.47Brigoshould*
21:35.55awwalBrigo, the 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso' pkg is made for install in the host and somehow it's seen by the guest
21:36.34Brigoawwal, yes as a DVD or CD image
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21:38.11Brigoawwal, the apt-file show virtualbox-guest-additions-iso hast all the guest versions adittions.
21:38.41awwalBrigo, probably I haven't understand how things work but what I did is install 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso' in my i386 host, and then start my debian amd guest, open a terminal and as root execute ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run and the guest additions get installed in the guest
21:39.15awwalBrigo, oh, so I can just install the required guest additions in the guest ?
21:39.17Brigoawwal, didnt' kown that :)
21:39.24awwalno need to install them in the host?
21:39.41Brigoawwal, i think you can do what you want :)
21:40.19awwalBrigo, Ok, let me try, if installing them directly in the guest does the job, so great
21:41.49Brigoawwal, that package install just an iso file, you have to still install it.
21:42.15awwalBrigo, ok, going to install the pkg now
21:42.44awwalI guess I'll have to run ./VBoxLinuxAdditions too
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21:45.26jmcnaughtawwal: did you try using the virtualbox-guest-utils on the guest? this would need the linux-headers-? for your arch to be installed, but it would compile the guest addons using DKMS
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21:49.05awwaljmcnaught, I only wanted to have fullscreen for the guest, so I installed the 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso' in the host following some information googling and know the guest can be fullscreen. After that I installed virtualbox-guest-utils  but I dont really what the feature exactly
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21:49.41awwalI dont really know what they feature exactly ^
21:50.42awwalinthe web I found that people say guest-additions is the required pkg for have the guest in fullscreen mode
21:51.19awwalfullscreen mode I mean the guest use the maximum monitor resolution available
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22:05.34julius_TomTomTosch, dpkg-reconfigure locales generates them after choosing. i will boot that system tomorrow and see if it works. thanks
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22:06.07awwalBrigo, :P  great! It works installing the virtualbox-guest-additions-iso pkg directly in the guest :P
22:06.27awwalThanks for the orientation :) I dont knew that
22:07.51awwalBut installing the pkg directly in the host is useful too, one makes it available for all the guests (no need to install the pkg in every single guest)
22:08.36Brigoawwal, right, i thint that's the point :)
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22:12.56awwalgcc, dkms and make pkgs are required in the guest for the guest-additions script to run correctly (it must be copied from /dev/cdrom0 to ~/ before running the script)
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22:14.19awwaleveryday more happy with Debian :P
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22:17.22user14312hallo
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22:17.44user14312can anyone help me with an issue regarding bootloader?
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22:22.46awwaldpkg: tell user14312 about ask
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22:24.21user14312i have formated my pc and installed debian on Luks via lvm
22:24.44user14312so my disk lool like dev/sd1 (boot partition)
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22:25.20user14312and a lvl fro /dev/sd2
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22:26.44user14312and then /dev/mapper/Fire-root: TYPE="ext4"
22:26.52user14312e.t.c
22:27.52user14312when i open my pc
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22:28.12user14312boot fails "no operation system found"
22:28.21user14312and i got back a rescue grup terminal
22:28.24user14312how can i fix this?
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22:32.09user14312i ve configured /dev/sd1 to be bootable and to mount to /boot also grub is intalled on that partition
22:34.17user14312<PROTECTED>
22:34.29user14312if so what configuration and how can i do it from a live cd? thanks
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22:50.50jmcnaughtuser14312: the debian installer has a rescue mode that lets you reinstall grub
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22:51.27jmcnaughtuser14312: also in the future please don't cross post
22:52.13user143121st thank u 2nd what is cross post?
22:53.12jmcnaughtuser14312: it's when you ask the same question on two channels at the same time. people who aren't on both channels might not realize you're already being helped and waste their time typing the same things
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22:55.19user14312okay sorry i didnt knew it
22:55.45jmcnaughtit's okay, now you know :)
22:55.53user14312but is reinstalling the bootlader going to solve will solve my issue?
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22:57.34jmcnaughtuser14312: see you on OFTC
22:57.48user14312okay
22:57.49user14312cya
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23:43.40Akuwis there any application to translation ?
23:43.48Akuwlanguage translation
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23:44.46Akuwbut i looking for one that doesn't need internet conection
23:44.52Akuwsimple dictionary
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23:46.56ArahaelAkuw: you mean, between natural languages? no. it is an unsplved problem. and a simple dictionary will not work.
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23:47.22Akuwyes, english-spanish, spanish-english
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23:49.31ArahaelAkuw: people different. speak here. speak there. understand not. transliterate. all understand yes?
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23:51.24ArahaelAkuw: understand?
23:51.34Akuwno man
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23:51.40Akuwsudo apt-get install sdcv
23:51.50ArahaelAkuw: and that is why transliteration does not work.
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23:54.26ArahaelAkuw: i must get to work - my bike, she serves me well. <-- another example - how would that transliterate?
23:54.28cluelesspersonSo I'm using debian
23:54.37cluelesspersonand the network keeps defaulting to route eth0
23:54.41cluelesspersonwhich is DISABLED
23:54.42Arahaelreally is heading off to work though.
23:54.47cluelesspersonnow, but was just disconnected before
23:54.57cluelesspersonhow do I keep it from routing through eth0?
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