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| 00:30.50 | Fox682 | Does anyone know why virtual machines in VBox will peg the CPU? I'm on Debian Jessie with kernel 3.16.0-4. Debian VMs work great but VMs with Alpine just peg my CPU... do we know if this is a Debian problem or an Alpine Problem? |
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| 00:32.00 | jmcnaught | Fox682: sounds like a VBox or Alpine problem. You could run top or something in the Alpine VM to try and find what's active |
| 00:32.59 | Fox682 | Top and Htop report nothing, According to the Guest OS, it's barely moving... |
| 00:33.05 | petn-randall | !tell mach_k_away -about away |
| 00:34.14 | jmcnaught | Fox682: are you running top in the guest or the host? you'll probably have better luck asking in #vbox or the alpine channel |
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| 01:52.04 | tonk | likes jmcnaught |
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| 02:55.55 | Devastator | swap should always be double RAM size? |
| 02:56.42 | awal1 | Devastator, thats the common |
| 02:57.26 | Devastator | awal1 partitioner is suggesting 9.2GB, but I have 16GB of RAM, should I edit it? |
| 02:58.23 | qmr | Devastator: awal1: no, that's fucking stupid, it's not 1999 |
| 02:58.47 | awal1 | Devastator, ^ |
| 02:58.51 | qmr | Devastator: 1-2 GB is plenty. if you want to suspend to hard disk swap needs to equal RAM |
| 02:59.15 | awal1 | Devastator, I guess you may never use 9 gb of ram, anyway |
| 02:59.51 | Devastator | qmr current partitions are: 1.0MB biosgrub, 10GB /, 9.2GB swap, 220.9 /home, comments? |
| 03:00.52 | qmr | 20-40GB for / 1-2GB for swap |
| 03:01.31 | abrotman | Devastator: what does the box do? double RAM has been dead for years,depending on workload |
| 03:01.46 | Devastator | abrotman it is my personal box |
| 03:02.56 | Devastator | abrotman what do you think about: 1MB for biosgrub, 30GB for /, 2GB for swap and the rest for /home? |
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| 03:06.12 | RippyDippy | hey guys, I'm following the NTP instructions on the wiki, but for some reason I don't have the command dkpg-reconfigure .. any ideas? |
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| 03:08.13 | Anselmo | RippyDippy: are you root? |
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| 03:09.24 | RippyDippy | Anselmo: no, would that be the issue? |
| 03:09.34 | Devastator | most likely |
| 03:09.37 | Anselmo | try running it with sudo. |
| 03:10.29 | Devastator | qmr is this reasonable for you? 1MB for biosgrub, 30GB for /, 2GB for swap and the rest for /home? |
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| 03:13.27 | RippyDippy | Anselmo: Nailed it |
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| 03:14.32 | awal1 | Devastator, swap size is controversial. follow the installer... :P |
| 03:15.16 | Devastator | hahahah |
| 03:15.19 | Devastator | indeed |
| 03:15.29 | qmr | Devastator: yes. you can also use LVM to mangle it again later without reinstall |
| 03:16.13 | Devastator | I've messed with LVM only once and found it painful hehe |
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| 03:18.07 | qmr | try reading the manual |
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| 03:50.20 | milil | hi |
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| 03:51.46 | milan | guys? |
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| 03:52.10 | milan | hi.... |
| 03:54.14 | jmcnaught | milan: it's stated very clearly in the channel regulations secion 15 subsection 12 that you must ask a question _before_ you can get an answer ;) |
| 03:55.56 | milan | is there any body? |
| 03:56.06 | hiya | hi |
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| 03:57.26 | milan | what is best and safest way to install latest libre office in debian 8.5? |
| 03:58.19 | jmcnaught | judd: v libreoffice |
| 03:58.21 | judd | Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u3; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u4; jessie-backports: 1:5.1.3-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1:5.1.4~rc2-2; stretch: 1:5.1.4~rc2-2; experimental: 1:5.2.0~rc1-1 |
| 03:58.44 | jmcnaught | milan: 5.1.3 is in jessie-backports |
| 03:58.54 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell milan about bdo |
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| 03:59.12 | milan | cool... |
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| 04:00.19 | milan | are they safe to install? jessie-backports? |
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| 04:00.52 | jmcnaught | backports are not covered by debian security support, and are updates by backporters |
| 04:01.08 | jmcnaught | most people only install the few backported packages they really need |
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| 04:38.11 | up2late | how do i get the ~ from my username in my irc address to go away |
| 04:38.21 | up2late | in irssi |
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| 04:38.54 | mrrhq | I think that's the flag that means owner. |
| 04:39.07 | mrrhq | It's not in your username here for me. |
| 04:39.24 | up2late | way2late is the nick on my linux box |
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| 04:39.38 | up2late | that one |
| 04:40.15 | up2late | i mean my address |
| 04:40.16 | mrrhq | If you mean in your bash shell, ~ means home directory. |
| 04:40.25 | up2late | ~up2late@c-76-107-222-110.hsd1.tn.comcast.net |
| 04:40.29 | up2late | that ~ |
| 04:40.42 | jmcnaught | up2late: /SET user_name = <user>, or use "-user <user>" with "/network add" |
| 04:41.09 | jmcnaught | on IRC the ~ means that the username was not verified with ident |
| 04:41.10 | mrrhq | up2late: You could ask #freenode for a hostmask, too. |
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| 04:41.51 | jmcnaught | shell servers can run identd so that users can not change the user part of their hostmask (for accountability) |
| 04:42.41 | mrrhq | I haven't got a squiggly line with Irssi before. I just set my username in the config file. |
| 04:42.53 | mrrhq | username != nick |
| 04:43.37 | jmcnaught | mrrhq: you have a tilde now :P |
| 04:44.06 | mrrhq | I don't really care about it, tbh. Lol. |
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| 04:45.17 | jmcnaught | mrrhq: most people don't run identd thest days, but a server that has lots of shell users might. with identd running those users would not have the ~ but also would not be able to change their username (they can select their nick like normal though) |
| 04:45.31 | mrrhq | I just realized it's showing my IPv6 address. That's new to me. Probably because I got a new router. |
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| 04:46.24 | up2late | how do i get identd running |
| 04:46.25 | jmcnaught | IRC was how I noticed that my ISP had turned on ipv6 too |
| 04:46.33 | Anonymes | Hi |
| 04:47.05 | jmcnaught | up2late: you don't need it, you just need to use the settings i mentioned earlier. They're documented here: https://github.com/irssi/irssi/blob/master/docs/manual.txt and there is also an #irssi channel |
| 04:47.37 | up2late | thx |
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| 04:50.15 | venkat_330 | how to access parallel port from non root user..When executed i get ioperm : Operation not permitted |
| 04:51.44 | jmcnaught | venkat_330: according to /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz the user needs to belong to the lp group |
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| 04:59.31 | venkat_330 | jmcnaught: venkat: venkat: lp cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev scanner lpadmin |
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| 04:59.59 | venkat_330 | Just now added lp in group.. |
| 05:00.31 | venkat_330 | same error exist: ioperm : Operation not permitted |
| 05:01.03 | jmcnaught | venkat_330: did you logout and log back in after adding the user to the lp group? |
| 05:01.16 | venkat_330 | nope will do that that |
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| 05:03.36 | mrrhq | Oh, I always thought lp mean the printer. |
| 05:03.50 | mrrhq | I guess not. |
| 05:04.27 | mrrhq | Unless it's a parallel port printer? |
| 05:04.31 | venkat_330 | jmcnaught: Nope still same... |
| 05:04.49 | venkat_330 | i am trying access parallel port directly using ioperm |
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| 05:05.43 | jmcnaught | venkat_330: is it a device in /dev ? what are are owner/group/permissions on it? |
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| 05:08.56 | venkat_330 | the device is /dev/port (crw-r----- 1 root kmem 1, 4 Jun 27 18:31 /dev/port) .. trying to access 0x378 of parallel port...and application permission in 755 |
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| 05:11.52 | plasmoduck | I''m getting a lot of "CRITICAL on CPU_IOWAIT" warnings on glaces, is that something I should be worried about? |
| 05:12.17 | venkat_330 | jmcnaught: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22686404/debian-how-to-access-gpio-without-root-permissions |
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| 05:15.17 | jmcnaught | venkat_330: see what /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz says about kmem group then. i thought you were talking about something like /dev/lp0 |
| 05:15.57 | jmcnaught | "direct access to the system memory" sounds like it should be used with care |
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| 05:19.08 | venkat_330 | jmcnaught: nope even that did not work |
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| 05:19.30 | jmcnaught | venkat_330: what didn't work? |
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| 05:22.42 | grantwu | Is there any projection as to when the next version of Debian will be released? |
| 05:22.45 | venkat_330 | jmcnaught: Sorry, I am trying to access parallel port of my motherboard (http://www.tutorialspoint.com/unix_system_calls/ioperm.htm) and when i execute this program as root it is working as expected.. But, When i execute the smae application with non root privilege i get IOPERM : Operation not permitted. As per your suggestion added "kmem , lp" to this user group.. |
| 05:23.52 | jmcnaught | venkat_330: you added the user to the "kmem" group and logged them in again. setgid kmem on the binary might be better |
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| 05:26.01 | jmcnaught | grantwu: https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html the freeze policy is here. after the freeze it gets released once the RC bugs are all closed. Probably spring 2017. Also https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 05:26.54 | grantwu | :/ arghhh |
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| 05:28.03 | jmcnaught | grantwu: there's usually a new stable release every couple of years |
| 05:28.38 | grantwu | jmcnaught: I know |
| 05:28.43 | brimonk | Is there a way that I can use nc to create a debian pastebin? |
| 05:28.46 | grantwu | Or at least, I know now. |
| 05:29.16 | jmcnaught | brimonk: i don't think paste.debian.net works with nc, but termbin.com does |
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| 05:33.37 | brimonk | jmcnaught: Thanks! |
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| 05:40.32 | RebelCoder | Guys, can you please suggest THE best ind safest way to install IntelHD/Nvidia drivers after a fresh Debian install ? I have tried like every Linux distro buy now, and on my laptop, Video Drivers were always the problem. Overheating, some artifacts in Plasma Desktop, e.t.c. |
| 05:41.03 | RebelCoder | I am OK with just Intel HD or NVidia working, as I need this laptop for work only. |
| 05:41.16 | jmcnaught | RebelCoder: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee looks like the best way on Debian |
| 05:42.38 | RebelCoder | Ok. I will try this then/ Really hope it will not destroy my fresh install, as I am so tired of re-installing all those linux distros.... |
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| 05:42.56 | RebelCoder | Debian seems to be the best so far actually. Just need to have the drivers working |
| 05:43.07 | jmcnaught | RebelCoder: there may be an option in the BIOS or UEFI to only have one card in use |
| 05:43.12 | RebelCoder | Do you know, what drivers are installed out of the box ? |
| 05:43.33 | RebelCoder | No, it is a laptop with super-neutered bios |
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| 05:45.02 | jmcnaught | RebelCoder: intel graphics cards just have one driver that will work out of the box. nvidia out of the book will use nouveau. /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show which is being used |
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| 05:45.51 | RebelCoder | I can see, that intel is used.... but there are some artefacts in Plasma menus and windows... things that use OpenGL |
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| 05:46.06 | RebelCoder | That is the case with almost all Linux Distros for me. |
| 05:46.14 | RebelCoder | Installing theo ne you suggested now. |
| 05:46.21 | RebelCoder | *the one |
| 05:46.45 | jmcnaught | RebelCoder: if it's a newer intel GPU you may consider using a newer kernel from backports |
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| 05:47.08 | jmcnaught | RebelCoder: the instructions for bumblebee are for if you want to switch between the two GPUs in runtime |
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| 05:47.58 | jmcnaught | RebelCoder: there is also a slightly newer xserver-xorg-video-intel in jessie-backports |
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| 05:48.08 | jmcnaught | !tell RebelCoder about bdo |
| 05:48.12 | jmcnaught | !tell RebelCoder about bdo kernel |
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| 05:48.46 | RebelCoderW | Crash ! =( |
| 05:49.00 | RebelCoderW | Ok. I will try newer Kernel then |
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| 05:49.29 | jmcnaught | it might not help if it's an older GPU |
| 05:49.38 | RebelCoderW | HD 4600 |
| 05:49.54 | RebelCoderW | NVidia GTX 765M |
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| 05:50.28 | RebelCoderW | I think default kernel is not good for me, as I see freezes. Ok. I will keep trying. Thanks for your help |
| 05:50.49 | jmcnaught | RebelCoderW: no problem. you can also check the logs right after a freeze |
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| 05:51.08 | RebelCoderW | Where can I do that ? |
| 05:52.14 | jmcnaught | RebelCoderW: if you haven't rebooted, run "journalctl". If reboots keep happening, /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian shows how to enable persistent journals, then you can "journalctl --boot=-1" to see logs from previous boot |
| 05:52.32 | jmcnaught | or look at /var/log/syslog for the time of the crash |
| 05:52.34 | grantwu | /var/log/syslog might also help? |
| 05:52.55 | RebelCoderW | Very good info guy! Very helpful! Thanks. Will keep hacking! |
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| 06:08.52 | venkat_330 | jmcnaught: setgid kmem on the binary (Can you tell me how to do this) |
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| 06:11.29 | brimonk | Does anyone know if you can run more TTYs on Debian? |
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| 06:13.31 | jelly | brimonk: what do you mean by TTYs? I think you can open at least 256 in /dev/pts |
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| 06:15.29 | jelly | brimonk: (see man ptmx, man pty) |
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| 06:17.43 | brimonk | jelly: You know how you can ctrl + alt + f<number> and get like, 1-6 virtual terminals? |
| 06:17.59 | brimonk | jelly: Is there a way that I can make f1-f12 all terminals? |
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| 06:23.40 | brimonk | Apparently you can use the chvt program to change what TTY you're looking at. |
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| 06:24.31 | brimonk | So, all I (think) I need to do, is like bind together alt + fn7-12 to chvt #, and I'll be set. |
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| 06:25.36 | brimonk | Wait! That's not true. |
| 06:25.48 | brimonk | The login manager isn't running on those yet... |
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| 06:34.41 | simbalion | Hi I'm trying to install fuse-source with apt-get but it says it can't find it, I assume I need to add a repo but I'm not certain which one |
| 06:34.53 | simbalion | this is in jessie |
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| 06:38.38 | brimonk | simbalion: Do you have the src urls specified inside /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 06:38.50 | simbalion | no |
| 06:39.09 | simbalion | I think this is what I'm trying to install https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/fuse |
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| 06:48.26 | brimonk | simbalion: Do you just want to browse the source? Because you can do that at https://sources.debian.net |
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| 06:55.53 | simbalion | brimonk: No. I am trying to install it. |
| 06:56.47 | brimonk | simbalion: Can you try to use 'apt-get source fuse' and see if that does it? |
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| 07:04.30 | simbalion | brimonk: that did it, did not fix the problem tho. |
| 07:04.47 | brimonk | simbalion: Well, what was the problem? |
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| 07:05.06 | simbalion | brimonk: can't do 'modprobe fuse' |
| 07:05.26 | brimonk | are you running as root? |
| 07:06.18 | simbalion | Yeah, I think I need to update my kernel |
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| 07:06.46 | simbalion | what does ckt stand for in the kernel versions? ckt11, ckt20, ckt25 |
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| 07:08.26 | brimonk | ... I have no clue. |
| 07:08.38 | simbalion | might be a digital ocean thing, I will ask them |
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| 07:09.20 | simbalion | brimonk: thanks for your help! |
| 07:09.40 | brimonk | simbalion: Anytime. Let me know if I can help any more. |
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| 07:50.39 | fennesz | Hello!Anyone knows how to auto-update atom editor? |
| 07:50.53 | fennesz | I am using debian 8 x64 |
| 07:53.27 | towo^work | what's an atom editor? |
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| 07:55.15 | jolt | towo^work: It's an editor from github called Atom. Or thats my guess |
| 07:56.24 | joegiampaoli | anyone know how to disable usb charging to android device that I'm using as USB network tethering so it doesn't kill my battery? Thanks in advance... |
| 07:57.10 | towo^work | that's not realy a debian question |
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| 07:57.53 | joegiampaoli | It is if I can stop sending the charge from laptop to device... |
| 07:58.41 | joegiampaoli | not from android device receiving the charge... |
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| 08:02.28 | donttrustem | Hi guyâs I am trying to workout what is the best option for protecting a files on one server and allowing access to it without a username or password. Like using an encrypted key :S |
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| 08:03.28 | donttrustem | senario Server A has the app Server B holds the key / file that is required for the app to work |
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| 08:04.32 | fennesz | towo^work, it's an editor from github. I just wanted to know if anyone uses it and knows a workaround on debian |
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| 08:08.40 | TomTomTosch | you could schedule a task to redownload their .deb and install it. i wouldn't want to do that, though. |
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| 08:19.28 | brimonk | donttrustem: wget the key from 'Server B' then scp/rsync/git/whatever from 'Server A'? |
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| 08:39.52 | qqz | I have an installation of KDE4 where it always hangs for a while on startup when displaying the blue globe. |
| 08:40.01 | qqz | anyone here who can tell me what KDE does on startup while displaying the blue globe? |
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| 08:43.02 | mcsmurf | hi, I want to create a Debian package, where the Depends: fields should exclude a certain range of another program |
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| 08:43.25 | mcsmurf | I tried foo (<< 1.6.1) | foo (>= 1.6.11) |
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| 08:43.37 | mcsmurf | which seems to work fine, but I'm not really sure if this is valid |
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| 08:43.58 | mcsmurf | as I found no documentation on this kind of solution |
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| 08:46.55 | qqz | conflicts? |
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| 08:48.43 | mcsmurf | conflicts sounds a bit too strong, but I guess in the end the result matters :) (and would be the same as with Depends if I see this correctly) |
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| 08:56.45 | mcsmurf | hrm, Breaks: nfdump (<< 1.6.11), nfdump (>= 1.6.2) |
| 08:56.52 | mcsmurf | conflicts with 1.6.12 |
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| 08:58.20 | mcsmurf | ok, I found an official page which says | should work |
| 08:58.37 | mcsmurf | (https://debian-handbook.info/browse/en-US/stable/sect.package-meta-information.html) |
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| 08:59.23 | mcsmurf | " In a list of conditions to be met, the comma serves as a separator. It must be interpreted as a logical âandâ. In conditions, the vertical bar (â|â) expresses a logical âorâ (it is an inclusive âorâ, not an exclusive âeither/orâ). " |
| 08:59.35 | mcsmurf | but I still wonder why my breaks line did not work |
| 09:00.44 | somiaj | mcsmurf: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net is a good place for packaging questions |
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| 09:01.21 | mcsmurf | somiaj: ah, good to know |
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| 09:06.07 | simbalion | anyone seen a VPS hang on LSB: Raise Network Interface after a kernel upgrade? |
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| 10:26.53 | danxor | hi all |
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| 10:37.43 | MisterGadfly | How the hell do I disable GVFS? GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1 doesn't work |
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| 10:38.55 | MisterGadfly | I can't uninstall it because so many applications depend on it |
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| 10:43.47 | MisterGadfly | Can't disable even the accessibility stuff. Who the hell designed this? |
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| 10:50.01 | MisterGadfly | Well, I renamed the files and it works. |
| 10:50.19 | MisterGadfly | But it's stupid that I can't disable them |
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| 11:00.53 | brimonk | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.09 | brimonk | Sorry about that. |
| 11:03.00 | jelly | MisterGadfly: often dealt with, by using something other than gnome |
| 11:03.29 | MisterGadfly | jelly: hard to do |
| 11:03.48 | MisterGadfly | jelly: and I'm using a tiling wm |
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| 11:23.54 | fennesz | Hello ! When I am copying files from one directory to another using nautilus , the progress bar freezes . Is there a way I can monitor the copying progress? |
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| 11:26.32 | KebabBob | I have a VPS I cannot connect to via ssh. service ssh is running, but I cannot even connect from localhost. Any ideas? |
| 11:26.51 | KebabBob | Just Connection refused |
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| 11:34.39 | angor | KebabBob: sudo netstat -nltp | grep sshd |
| 11:34.50 | plasmoduck | fennesz, use the CLI |
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| 11:35.27 | fennesz | plasmoduck, with "cp"? |
| 11:35.44 | plasmoduck | KebabBob, check your permission and access logs. |
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| 11:37.18 | plasmoduck | fennesz, cp -rf "/path/to/directory" "/path/to/new/directory" |
| 11:37.45 | fennesz | k will try this thank you ! |
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| 11:41.35 | shann | Hi, my package uploaded to official repository but i show that missing dependencies (libjs-sphinxdoc), how change them ? |
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| 11:44.24 | RebelCoderW | Guys, is there a way (image) to install Debian with KDE, for example, but without applications ? It installs a lot of apps that I never use and when I uninstall them, it uninstalls many libs that cause some problems after that. Not to mention, it is a pain to uninstall tons of software after fresh install. NETInstall is not for me as I have no idea |
| 11:44.24 | RebelCoderW | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.44 | mayhew | RebelCoderW: https://wiki.debian.org/KDE - you can see kde-plasma-desktop package is a minimal desktop with no applications |
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| 11:46.11 | plasmoduck | RebelCoderW, apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop that is as close as you will get. |
| 11:46.49 | plasmoduck | RebelCoderW, since KDE and GNOME are Desktop Environments not Window Managers and they come with bundled software. |
| 11:47.32 | foetus | apt-get --no-install-recommends install |
| 11:47.40 | plasmoduck | RebelCoderW, if you want something more streamlined you could try something like MATE or XFCE and for something even sleeker I prefer Awesome WM and Fluxbox WM. |
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| 11:49.07 | fennesz | plasmoduck, by copying this way I can't monitor the progress of my copy . Is there another way? |
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| 11:50.23 | fennesz | btw with dmesg I get : [17205.617114] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] No Caching mode page found |
| 11:50.24 | fennesz | [17205.617117] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through |
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| 11:51.43 | Lokke | hello world - how can i search for a file wich contains "xyz" ? |
| 11:51.49 | plasmoduck | fennesz, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/cp-progress-bar-407381/ |
| 11:52.07 | Lokke | i tryed with find / -name xyz* |
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| 11:52.52 | petn-randall | Lokke: Are you looking for _content_ with xyz, or a filename _containing_ xyz? |
| 11:53.00 | plasmoduck | Lokke, find | grep xyz |
| 11:53.19 | foetus | grep -i 'string' file |
| 11:53.21 | j4n4 | Hello There |
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| 11:53.39 | petn-randall | plasmoduck: That is wasteful, find already has a function to filter filenames. |
| 11:53.50 | Lokke | find / | grep xyz did the job |
| 11:53.55 | Lokke | thank you =D |
| 11:54.08 | petn-randall | Lokke: find / -name '*xyz*' would do it. |
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| 11:54.30 | fennesz | plasmoduck, ah yes rsync is another option |
| 11:54.33 | petn-randall | Lokke: It's faster than piping to grep. |
| 11:54.35 | Iridos | the manpage of e2fsck speaks about preserving the bad blocks list... can I somehow read that bad blocks list? |
| 11:54.36 | plasmoduck | petn-randall, just another way ins't it? |
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| 11:55.11 | Lokke | ahhh thank you - so i mised the quotes |
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| 11:56.11 | Lokke | find / | grep xyz is showing to many entrys |
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| 11:59.04 | petn-randall | Lokke: That's because "find / -name '*xyz*'" will look for filenames containing that string, whereas "find / | grep xyz" will output every directory and file on the system, and grep will check if the string contains xyz. |
| 11:59.51 | petn-randall | Lokke: You will notice that all files in a directory 'xyz' will _not_ be shown in the former, but _will_ be shown in the latter. |
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| 12:00.54 | petn-randall | Lokke: You should also be getting a lot of 'permission denied' entries unless you run as root. But I'm guessing you're searching in /somedir? |
| 12:01.05 | RebelCoderW | mayhew: So install Debian without Desktop env. and then , in terminal install KDE desktop ? |
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| 12:01.45 | Lokke | petn-randall: its my router - there is just one user on it |
| 12:02.03 | plasmoduck | RebelCoderW, that should work. |
| 12:02.12 | mayhew | RebelCoderW: exactly, I just did that recently myself to install a more minimal GNOME on stretch |
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| 12:04.19 | fornax | Hi I have a problem when my backup program backuppc tries to connect to other hosts. I always get a "tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified" but this does not happen when I connect from a different host then my backuppc container. Does anyone have an idea about the reason for this message? The shell hangs at this point. |
| 12:04.39 | pyvpx | I am unable to get virsh console working for a debian VM I have. I've edited the grub to add console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 on the vmlinuz line but still nothing. what else should I look at? |
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| 12:07.34 | pyvpx | solved my own problem...was missing text in front of the console=tty0 |
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| 12:13.07 | fornax | Noone here that can give me a hint where to search. I found out that term is set to dumb, whyever |
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| 12:16.30 | RebelCoderW | mayhew: Did you have only 2 things ticked during the install then ? [*] Debian desktop env. [*] Standard system utilities |
| 12:16.32 | RebelCoderW | right ? |
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| 12:17.42 | mayhew | RebelCoderW: I don't think you want the Debain desktop env |
| 12:17.50 | mayhew | you're going to install that after, remember? |
| 12:18.03 | RebelCoderW | KDE Env was after... |
| 12:18.13 | RebelCoderW | I de-ticked KDE Desktop |
| 12:18.27 | RebelCoderW | Hm.... |
| 12:18.33 | RebelCoderW | Will see what is installed now... |
| 12:18.47 | uniTosch | It will install Gnome if you only Tick debian Desktop environment. |
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| 12:19.05 | RebelCoderW | But GNOME and KDE were a separate tick boxes... |
| 12:19.25 | RebelCoderW | OK. Will keep hacking, now I know what is what. |
| 12:19.36 | RebelCoderW | You guys. are amazingly helpful |
| 12:20.09 | uniTosch | Yep. But dde includes one de of choice, Gnome being default if nothing else selected. |
| 12:20.41 | RebelCoderW | Good to know ! |
| 12:20.45 | RebelCoderW | tanks |
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| 12:24.11 | dagerik | how can I make all system cronjobs email the output to me? |
| 12:25.16 | ravenx | you can add a MAILTO= field |
| 12:25.20 | ravenx | in the beginning of your cronjob |
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| 12:26.16 | Iridos | to answer my own question, seems dumpe2fs -b is supposed to do it, but just returns after 2 lines of unrelated output |
| 12:26.41 | google77 | where do I report dependency issues for applications that are not in the repos?I am talking about Stretch. |
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| 12:27.58 | Iridos | google77, to wherever you have that application from |
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| 12:29.57 | google77 | Iridos, I did. They responded on git that it is probably a Debian testing issue. Since it worked fine on stable but the package for testing is still stuck in unstable. |
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| 12:30.54 | Iridos | you said it's not in the repo |
| 12:31.16 | uniTosch | google77 Then you will have to wait till it Moves on. Debian can't Support third party packages. |
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| 12:31.54 | Iridos | how can it be "stuck in unstable" if it's not in the unstable repo |
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| 12:32.41 | google77 | Iridos the applcation itself is not in the repo. But some of its dependecies exist both in the stable and unstable repos. The problem is that I am on testing. |
| 12:33.13 | Iridos | then install the dependencies that you need from unstable and hope they don't break stuff? |
| 12:33.28 | google77 | I might do that. |
| 12:34.38 | Iridos | the only difference between testing and unstable is that packages in testing survived a while in unstable without getting hideous bug reports |
| 12:34.53 | google77 | I know. |
| 12:35.05 | google77 | 10 days right? |
| 12:35.45 | Iridos | it's apparently not a fixed number, but I never found out what determines the time... possibly someone pushing a button somewhere |
| 12:37.06 | google77 | here's the git issue I opened; |
| 12:37.32 | google77 | https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/1158#issuecomment-228689612 |
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| 12:54.44 | google77 | I am not one of the otter browser developers, but those guys already do provide their debs themselves, where could I find anyone from debian who is willing to see if they could put it into the archieves? |
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| 12:57.20 | uniTosch | Can't even find a license in their Repo... |
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| 12:57.58 | dagerik | ravenx: I added a MAILTO but I aint getting email |
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| 12:58.45 | dagerik | well actually, exim is the MTA and is unable to transfer email to me |
| 12:58.55 | uniTosch | Otherwise, the normal way to get stuff into debian is to find a Sponsor who Checks the work and is willing to upload it. |
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| 12:59.28 | google77 | uniTosch https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/blob/master/COPYING |
| 12:59.30 | uniTosch | But I think #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net is a better place to ask. |
| 13:00.42 | ChrisH | dagerik: cronjob outputs gets send to the user running the job. Using exim it is easy to check what the delivery would be. run exim -bt and enter the cronjob's username at the > |
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| 13:01.52 | Iridos | well, or file a request-for-package and hope someone picks it up |
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| 13:01.55 | Iridos | dpkg, rfp |
| 13:01.55 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
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| 13:02.10 | Iridos | google77, ^^^ |
| 13:02.29 | google77 | thx |
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| 13:41.40 | maddawg2 | hey all trying to install debian from the netinstall and just had a question about 8.5 |
| 13:41.58 | maddawg2 | seems when i start it up the boot menu has an option for "install" and "64-bit install" |
| 13:42.09 | maddawg2 | i assume just by clicking install it only installs debian 32-bit? |
| 13:42.12 | maddawg2 | is that correct/ |
| 13:42.13 | maddawg2 | ? |
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| 13:44.56 | zykotick9 | maddawg2: that is correct (with the multiarch netinst anyways - one that is linked in top right corner of debian.org) |
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| 13:50.25 | maddawg2 | gotcha thanks |
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| 13:51.43 | BadCodSmell | I have a script like so: #!/bin/bash\ncommand1;apt-get install package;command2, however command 2 never runs. What can cause this? |
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| 13:52.38 | jelly | BadCodSmell: does the last line of the script end with a \n ? |
| 13:52.48 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: I would recommend to run the scipt like bash -xv ./script |
| 13:53.19 | jelly | (it should, but bad editors sometimes let you have the last line not end up with \n delimiter) |
| 13:53.26 | BadCodSmell | I just figured out what it is |
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| 13:53.45 | BadCodSmell | I actually cat the script into a chroot just as a quick way to not worry about polluting the fs |
| 13:54.03 | BadCodSmell | like cat script.sh | chroot dir /bin/bash |
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| 13:54.35 | BadCodSmell | I guess when apt at some stage asks about whether to use old or new conf it hijacked the stdin pipe and stops the rest of the script being delivered |
| 13:54.35 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: and you are sure eg. command2 has all libs there |
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| 13:55.30 | BadCodSmell | ChrisH: it was just dying right after, event apt-get install x || echo next or && echo next would not work |
| 13:55.38 | BadCodSmell | It has to be the piping :D |
| 13:56.00 | BadCodSmell | Nothing else makes sense, it's trying to get userinput and breaking the pipe |
| 13:56.33 | BadCodSmell | I even checked the meta for the package a postinst, etc, nothing in there that would kill the pg or send a signal to it or run out of memory, etc |
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| 13:57.29 | jelly | BadCodSmell: next time pipe it to bash -x |
| 13:57.45 | BadCodSmell | That's one way perhaps |
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| 13:57.48 | BadCodSmell | but really... |
| 13:57.52 | BadCodSmell | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:58.02 | BadCodSmell | I want it to choose this automatically, not even try to go for user input |
| 13:58.40 | jelly | BadCodSmell: /msg dpkg confold, /msg dpkg confnew |
| 13:58.52 | BadCodSmell | I don't understand as I have --force-confdef and --force confold in apt.conf |
| 13:59.07 | jelly | that's not valid apt.conf syntax? |
| 13:59.07 | BadCodSmell | It shouldn't be asking from what I understand with that |
| 13:59.23 | HaMsTeRs | anyone here with xfce installed? |
| 13:59.30 | jelly | BadCodSmell: show your /path/to/chroot/etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 13:59.34 | HaMsTeRs | i'm trying to change my theme, but nothing works |
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| 14:00.05 | BadCodSmell | I also have all the set non interactive stuff set |
| 14:00.08 | jelly | BadCodSmell: which debian release is inside the chroot? |
| 14:00.15 | BadCodSmell | wheezy |
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| 14:01.55 | BadCodSmell | I should have figured the pipe thing out from strace :P |
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| 14:02.25 | BadCodSmell | Since bash seemed to be doing read(fd, buf, 1) at a time strangely rather than fetching all |
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| 14:03.05 | BadCodSmell | Hypothetically speaking, confdef and confold should definitely stop be seeing that message normally? |
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| 14:03.30 | Amok_Huginnsson | Hi. Does anyone know what are Debian plans regarding future of sysvinit? For how long it will be supported? |
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| 14:04.43 | blind | So I installed the 4.6 kernel from jessie-backports and can not build fglrx against it, using the fglrx-modules-dkms from jessie-backports.. will there be a new fglrx package? Currently using 1:15.12-2~bpo8+1 |
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| 14:06.49 | jelly | BadCodSmell: there may be some more -y and -q involved, dunno. I don't know enough and you haven't shown your actual config and relevant environment. |
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| 14:08.04 | RebelCoderW | Guys, I am missing a network icon in tray. Installed palasma-nm, but still not there. I can't connect to Wi-Fi. Ethernet works but icon is still missing |
| 14:08.08 | RebelCoderW | what do I need to install ? |
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| 14:08.30 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: or you might want to consider using orchestratiuon tools like ansible to install and clean up |
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| 14:09.30 | ChrisH | RebelCoderW: IIRC NM does only show interfaces which are configured. Does ifconfig -a show the interface? Are the needed firmware and moduyles loaded? |
| 14:09.57 | RebelCoderW | Yes. Shows all cards correctly |
| 14:10.02 | RebelCoderW | Ethernet is connected and works |
| 14:10.10 | RebelCoderW | Wif-fi is enabled but icon in tray is missing |
| 14:10.27 | RebelCoderW | I did clean install. Then Plasma desktop from terminal |
| 14:10.34 | RebelCoderW | prob. need some package... |
| 14:10.42 | RebelCoderW | but which one ? |
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| 14:12.33 | BadCodSmell | ChrisH this is for building an initial image |
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| 14:12.43 | BadCodSmell | although the rest of things might go something like ansible |
| 14:13.37 | ChrisH | BadCodSmell: I see :) |
| 14:13.41 | BadCodSmell | The irony is a while ago I made something like that using node.js which is was pretty cool with a terminal lib as well. |
| 14:14.30 | HaMsTeRs | anyone please help |
| 14:14.32 | HaMsTeRs | thanks |
| 14:14.34 | HaMsTeRs | ! |
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| 14:15.41 | BadCodSmell | HaMsTeRs: DATA |
| 14:16.14 | jim | HaMsTeRs, if you were to ask a detailed, specific, informative question... |
| 14:16.32 | greycat | Or any question at all. |
| 14:16.45 | jim | there is that... |
| 14:16.51 | HaMsTeRs | i'm unable to change my XFCE theme |
| 14:17.03 | jim | why? |
| 14:17.06 | BadCodSmell | We need a life ring or something you can just throw at people. |
| 14:17.08 | HaMsTeRs | the apparence manager doesn't take effect to whatever changes i made |
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| 14:17.41 | HaMsTeRs | is there any them maanger (XFCE) can do the magic? |
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| 14:21.41 | maddawg2 | hmm netinstall had a bad mirror |
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| 14:22.30 | maddawg2 | so i select US as my mirror |
| 14:22.40 | maddawg2 | and it looks like it tries but fails |
| 14:22.50 | ExoUNX | maddawg2 DNS correct? |
| 14:22.56 | maddawg2 | gonna try csail |
| 14:23.02 | maddawg2 | should be |
| 14:24.11 | maddawg2 | how can I tell from the boot CD if it's getting correct network settings |
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| 14:24.44 | greycat | Once you've got that far in the install, you can press Alt-F2 to get a console and check the IPs. |
| 14:25.46 | maddawg2 | hm looks like it's retrieving now we'll see what happens |
| 14:26.47 | maddawg2 | alt+f2 didnt seem to do anything... not sure my hypervisor is passing it through tho |
| 14:27.00 | maddawg2 | prob cuz i chose the graphical install lol |
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| 14:33.38 | RebelCoderW | clear |
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| 14:39.37 | centrx | All clear |
| 14:40.43 | HaMsTeRs | see, I asked my question, and no one eer care |
| 14:40.54 | greycat | Not that we don't care. We just don't know. |
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| 14:41.30 | RebelCoderW | prob. need some package...linux remove proxy from terminal |
| 14:41.39 | RebelCoderW | Damn ! Wrong Keyboard |
| 14:43.09 | centrx | HaMsTeRs: You can try again. I didn't see your question |
| 14:43.45 | HaMsTeRs | Thanks centrx. So, i'm running debian linux in ARM under chroot |
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| 14:43.57 | HaMsTeRs | and I can only use root as login |
| 14:44.05 | HaMsTeRs | so I have xfce for x |
| 14:44.23 | HaMsTeRs | for some reasons, I'm unable to change my theme |
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| 14:44.45 | HaMsTeRs | any settings uner apparence manager doesn't take any effect |
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| 14:48.36 | HaMsTeRs | you can never every imagine how ugly my desktop looks now |
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| 14:58.16 | jhutchins | HaMsTeRs: There probably isn't anybody on right now who runs xfce and has also had that problem. |
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| 14:58.28 | jhutchins | HaMsTeRs: You should never run a GUI as root. |
| 14:59.11 | jhutchins | HaMsTeRs: It's possible that you've created or modified configuration files in your home directory as root, and your normal user can't change them because they're owned by root now. |
| 14:59.26 | jhutchins | HaMsTeRs: Do you have a GUI login manager enabled? |
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| 15:29.37 | Avernos | how can I enable journalctl to pass logs to /var/log |
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| 15:59.04 | jmcnaught | Avernos: do you mean to syslog? This should be the default, but take a look at "man journald.conf" |
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| 16:05.20 | Avernos | jmcnaught, currently logs are only on journald. but nothing on /var/logs |
| 16:05.36 | Avernos | heard before that it is possible to tell journal to pass'em to /var/log |
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| 16:06.21 | Avernos | my default is nothing on /var/log, however it is possible to tell a program to use syslog instead of journal i think. I'd like to avoid this, as i like journalctl |
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| 16:06.34 | jmcnaught | Avernos: on jessie ForwardToSyslog=yes in journald.conf is the default |
| 16:06.44 | Avernos | just some programs are not updated on the repos, and gotta have some /var/logs |
| 16:07.08 | jmcnaught | Avernos: do you have rsyslog installed? |
| 16:07.20 | Avernos | jmcnaught, that is for a base system as well ? |
| 16:07.54 | jmcnaught | Avernos: this is the default on Debian, at least for jessie but i don't think it's changed for stretch |
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| 16:08.22 | jmcnaught | not sure exactly what you mean by "base system".. did you install with deboostrap. which release/distro is this for? |
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| 16:09.28 | Avernos | ah.. i see. forgot i had a "custom" debian.. sorry |
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| 16:10.12 | Avernos | didnt know about ForwardToSyslog=yes will check |
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| 16:11.09 | jmcnaught | Avernos: if it's another distro you should get support in their channel because the people here won't know about the differences. Or start using regular Debian |
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| 16:12.05 | Avernos | jmcnaught, no, its a plain jessy debian. just my provider sets up a couple of params. |
| 16:13.51 | jmcnaught | Avernos: ahh.. lovely when the provider makes strange undocumented changes to defaults. Take a look at that setting for journald, and if rsyslog is installed. You could also look at making journald persistent (see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian) |
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| 16:15.17 | Avernos | im definitely searching for another provider soon |
| 16:15.25 | Avernos | thanks much! will look into this |
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| 16:15.33 | jmcnaught | Avernos: good luck :) |
| 16:15.43 | Avernos | thanks^^ |
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| 16:29.29 | bin-plymouth | Hello. I did wheezy to Jessie upgrade then dist-upgrade. Booting, it gives me the sadface and "can't recover". journalctl -xb blames it on a bin/plymouth error but none of the Google solutions are working. :( |
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| 16:30.26 | HoloIRCUser | I want best reference book for Linux system administrator |
| 16:30.32 | HoloIRCUser | Please help me |
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| 16:31.25 | H4ndy | google? |
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| 16:31.34 | bin-plymouth | systemd[529]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /bin/plymouth: No such file or directory -- Subject: Process /bin/plymouth could not be executed -- Defined-By: systemd -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel -- -- The process /bin/plymouth could not be executed and failed. |
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| 16:36.24 | Aorious | Hello, when creating a Live USB. What is the minium sized partition required? Can it match the size of the .iso or is there need to add more space? |
| 16:36.28 | bin-plymouth | most of the solutions I find on Google to bin/plymouth say the problem is in /etc/fstab, does anyone see anything wrong in mine? http://paste.debian.net/764129/ |
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| 16:38.11 | jhutchins | bin-plymouth: Is plymouth installed? |
| 16:38.25 | jhutchins | bin-plymouth: Is there anything about plymouth in grub.cfg? |
| 16:38.40 | jhutchins | bin-plymouth: (whatever config grub is using on your version) |
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| 16:39.47 | jhutchins | bin-plymouth: Your fstab has nothing to do with it. |
| 16:40.03 | fred1807 | Somehow I messed up with ntp service on my desbian jessy (no desktop). Is there any command I can give to try to find what is happening? |
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| 16:40.32 | jhutchins | fred1807: Ples define "messed up" - what exactly are you seeing? |
| 16:40.52 | fred1807 | we are back to 1969 (no hardware clock) |
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| 16:41.21 | fred1807 | I can ping pool.ntp.br (my current ntp server) |
| 16:41.26 | bin-plymouth | jhutchins: apt-get install plymouth gives "the following NEW packages will be installed" |
| 16:42.26 | bin-plymouth | sadly dist-upgrade apparently broke my internet. maybe I need to run something to detect it? |
| 16:45.04 | fred1807 | jhutchins: if I force my debian to ipv4 only, can this mess up with ntpd ? |
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| 16:47.11 | bin-plymouth | jhutchins: Ok, got my net working. Should I install Plymouth? |
| 16:47.22 | greycat | fred1807: TIAS |
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| 16:48.21 | fred1807 | greycat: my ntpd is not working, the only crucial change to my system lately was going ipv4 , but ntd used to work with that |
| 16:48.32 | greycat | Find out *why* it's not working. |
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| 16:48.43 | greycat | What errors does it produce? |
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| 16:49.33 | jelly | fred1807: are you also bereft of syslog and journald? |
| 16:49.55 | fred1807 | jelly: yep |
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| 16:50.28 | jelly | install rsyslog, reboot, see what happens with ntpd |
| 16:50.44 | fred1807 | can I install systemd-timesyncd ? |
| 16:51.02 | jelly | can you do a root cause analysis? |
| 16:51.15 | fred1807 | I cant |
| 16:51.24 | jelly | why not? |
| 16:51.36 | fred1807 | I dont know how |
| 16:51.55 | bin-plymouth | nope, no "plymouth" in /etc/default/grub either, as you guessed |
| 16:51.59 | jelly | fred1807: enable logging, see if the service in question complains about something. |
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| 16:54.00 | jelly | fred1807: are you able to temporarily install rsyslog? |
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| 17:03.58 | fred1807 | I going to the route of removing ntp and ntpd and using systemd-timesyncd. When do I need to do? |
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| 17:04.24 | greycat | 'because clearly that will be easier than just installing rsyslog and reading a log file' |
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| 17:04.55 | bin-plymouth | Ok, my system boots to the sadface and journalctl is clean, now what? |
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| 17:05.18 | fred1807 | because simpler is better : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-timesyncd |
| 17:05.41 | greycat | Anything that involves mucking around with non-default pieces of systemd is not "simpler" in my opinion. |
| 17:05.52 | greycat | But good luck. |
| 17:05.56 | jelly | !be a root cause analysis barbie |
| 17:05.56 | dpkg | Aww, root cause analysis is HARD! Let's go shopping, jelly |
| 17:05.57 | fred1807 | what is the file timesyncd write the time to? My root in RO I need to point a symlink to a RW partition |
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| 17:07.49 | jelly | fred1807 it's frustrating to try help a user when their goal is shifting and the knowledge required to help changes |
| 17:07.49 | mxn | hi, not sure where to go with this question, think it's a gtk issue: my pavucontrol is unusable after i used lxappearance and gtk-chtheme |
| 17:08.00 | mxn | https://tmp.mheistermann.de/pavucontrol.png |
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| 17:08.19 | mxn | i was unable to reverse the changes i made, now idk how to fix it |
| 17:08.36 | mxn | i use i3 as wm, if that is relevant |
| 17:08.53 | mxn | on a debian that's mostly testing |
| 17:08.55 | jelly | mxn: does this look persist after a log off and log in back? |
| 17:09.02 | mxn | jelly: hm, let me try |
| 17:09.04 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 17:09.04 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:09.07 | jelly | ^^ testing |
| 17:09.21 | greycat | "mostly testing" is a terrifying phrase. |
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| 17:09.31 | jelly | *mostly pregnant pause* |
| 17:09.53 | mxn | yep, still the same |
| 17:10.06 | greycat | If you have mixed testing with *any* other distribution, you don't have a "mostly" anything. You have a broken frankendebian. |
| 17:11.14 | jelly | is this a continued query? I don't see mxn mentioning anything about any _other_ distro |
| 17:11.18 | mxn | just a handful of unstable packages, libc etc are still stretch |
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| 17:11.34 | mxn | don't think this is related |
| 17:12.11 | mxn | at least pavucontrol and libgtk are the same version in sid anyways |
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| 17:12.35 | jelly | pavucontrol in stretch is gtk3, not gtk2... does gtk-chtheme deal with gtk3 these days? |
| 17:12.59 | mxn | at least the window title of gtk-chtheme says 2.0 |
| 17:13.03 | jelly | and you probably want to ask in -next anyway, more people using stretch there |
| 17:13.19 | mxn | maybe these changes werent even related, could be an update at the same time or whatever ;) |
| 17:14.18 | jelly | ldd $(which gkt-chtheme) suggests it still cares about gtk2 (only?) |
| 17:15.09 | jelly | mind the typo. |
| 17:15.31 | mxn | any nice way to just reset my gtk settings to make sure they're not broken? |
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| 17:15.48 | mxn | rm -rf .config/gtk-[23].0? |
| 17:16.00 | greycat | I would mv rather than rm. |
| 17:16.10 | greycat | A bit easier to undo, that way. |
| 17:16.28 | mxn | yeah, right, mmv gtk-* gtk-*-bak |
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| 17:17.28 | mxn | yay, back to normal.. that was easy |
| 17:18.01 | mxn | ty everyone |
| 17:18.38 | jelly | greycat: who needs mv when you have BACKUPS |
| 17:18.52 | greycat | That's why I said "easier" not "possible". |
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| 17:22.48 | bin-plymouth | Hello. I did wheezy to Jessie upgrade then dist-upgrade. Booting, it gives me the sadface and "can't recover". journalctl -xb is clean and /var/log/messages shows nothing for hours. Please, what should I do next? |
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| 17:26.46 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: using gnome? gnome requires a video card that supports certain opengl settings. What video card/driver are you using? |
| 17:26.58 | L1nuxg33k | Hello everyone |
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| 17:27.36 | greycat | Oh.. is "the sadface" a gnome thing, not a Macintosh hardware thing? |
| 17:27.52 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: Gnome as far as I know, yes |
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| 17:28.07 | somiaj | greycat: usually says Oh Snap! I think, or maybe that is chromium |
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| 17:28.27 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: this appears when tyring to log into gnome or when you boot your system? |
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| 17:28.42 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: ATI Radeon 5770, worked under Wheezy |
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| 17:28.52 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: after boot, at login |
| 17:29.14 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: are you using fglrx drivers? |
| 17:29.19 | bin-plymouth | Fails both on normal and on ATI proprietary driver |
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| 17:29.35 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: well check the Xorg.0.log if it is x that is failing |
| 17:29.44 | L1nuxg33k | why is it that when i apt-get remove, purge, autoremove software and reinstall it, all of my config settings are the same for that particular application? |
| 17:29.49 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: not now, and still failing. ... ok |
| 17:30.11 | greycat | L1nuxg33k: purge removes configs; everything else you mentioned does not. |
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| 17:30.34 | somiaj | L1nuxg33k: purge won't remove configs in a user $HOME |
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| 17:31.38 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: I don't know what is failing, just that I get that login message |
| 17:31.59 | L1nuxg33k | hmm...so I have to delete the config file manually? |
| 17:32.30 | somiaj | L1nuxg33k: for configs inside the users $HOME, yes |
| 17:32.32 | greycat | If it's a *personal* config, yes. |
| 17:32.52 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: did you check the Xorg.0.log (still assuming it is xorg that is failing here) |
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| 17:34.28 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: trying to. one sec... |
| 17:34.33 | L1nuxg33k | ok so before I apt-get remove I delete config file first? |
| 17:34.48 | bin-plymouth | why do you think it is an xorg issue? |
| 17:34.51 | L1nuxg33k | cause if i exec apt-get remove it deletes the config file |
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| 17:34.53 | somiaj | L1nuxg33k: if the goal is to just reset the config files, you don't need to remove the package. |
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| 17:35.10 | greycat | L1nuxg33k: what package are you talking about, and what config file(s)? |
| 17:35.19 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: because of the sadface, not use to consoles giving that. |
| 17:35.50 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: i.e. if it is a graphical error message, sounds like it is an error with your displaymanager/xorg |
| 17:36.21 | L1nuxg33k | not any particular package, but I had deleted irssi and reinstalled it only to find the exact same settings |
| 17:36.40 | somiaj | L1nuxg33k: as you have been told multiple times, this is because user configs are stored in $HOME |
| 17:36.47 | greycat | So you're talking about your personal settings in ~/.irssi/ |
| 17:36.58 | greycat | Not system-wide package configs in /etc/ |
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| 17:37.22 | L1nuxg33k | somiaj: I understand that |
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| 17:39.04 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: not sure what I should be looking for in Xorg.0, not seeing any big error messages |
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| 17:39.29 | towo` | bin-plymouth, pste it on a pastebin |
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| 17:42.24 | L1nuxg33k | oh I need to use clean |
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| 17:42.31 | L1nuxg33k | or autoclean |
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| 17:43.29 | somiaj | clean or autoclean won't mess with configs in any way |
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| 17:45.22 | fred1807 | what is happening here? (systemctl status for rc.local) https://arin.ga/mYkJPG/raw |
| 17:45.39 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#gnome-3d -- this is what I am thinking you are runing into (again this will happen after you login using your display manager, it will give some error about not working) |
| 17:45.54 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: even if using the 'radeon' driver you may need to install firmware-linux-nonfree to get the required 3D support |
| 17:46.16 | greycat | Looks like something in your rc.local exited with status 126, which brings the entire thing to a screeching halt, because SOME FUCKING IDIOT IN DEBIAN put -e in the shebang line. |
| 17:46.30 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: towo` http://paste.debian.net/hidden/449233e2/ |
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| 17:47.12 | greycat | (Also your system clock was wrong at the time rc.local ran, but you knew that.) |
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| 17:52.37 | fred1807 | hehe that shebang line on rc.local was really something to catch noobs like me I guess |
| 17:53.32 | PryMar56 | fred1807, the `sh -e` ? |
| 17:53.44 | fred1807 | yeah, what a terrible idea |
| 17:53.56 | PryMar56 | then your bootup hangs |
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| 17:54.47 | simbalion | Can jessie boot on a 3.2 kernel? |
| 17:54.48 | fred1807 | greycat: okay to /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh for a couple of personal script on rc.local right? |
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| 17:55.45 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: thanks. firmware-linux-nonfree is not fixing it though |
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| 17:56.34 | somiaj | simbalion: why not use the 3.16 kernel with jessie? If you need 3.2 any reason you don't just run wheezy-lts? |
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| 17:57.16 | simbalion | somiaj: I intend to, but my vps isn't booting and I tried going back to the 3.2 kernel it was built with and it still doesn't boot so I'm uncertain if it's a kernel issue or what |
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| 17:58.38 | evanvarvell | ... |
| 17:58.52 | somiaj | simbalion: so you upgraded from wheezy->jessie on a vm and now it won't boot? |
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| 17:59.21 | simbalion | I upgraded months ago but rebooted with a new kernel for the first time yesterday, and it won't boot. |
| 17:59.24 | somiaj | bin-plymouth: try a blank user, create a new user maybe add it to the video/audio group, and then login as that user. (this will check to see that it isn't some issue with your personal config files causing the issue) |
| 17:59.51 | somiaj | simbalion: jessie uses systemd, so going that long without booting into using systemd may have caused a problem, but I would look there vs kernel |
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| 18:00.20 | simbalion | somiaj: it hangs on "A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interf..." |
| 18:00.39 | somiaj | simbalion: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#systemd-upgrade-default-init-system |
| 18:00.49 | somiaj | simbalion: yea sounds like you have some old sysvinit scripts that aren't funcitoning right with systemd. |
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| 18:01.47 | simbalion | somiaj: thanks I bet that's it |
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| 18:09.03 | greycat | simbalion: yes, jessie can run on a wheezy (3.2) kernel, and I had to do this on my 64 MB i386 machine. |
| 18:09.30 | greycat | It runs out of memory on the later jessie kernels, though it *used* to work on the 8.0 jessie kernel. |
| 18:10.19 | simbalion | somiaj: booted into a 'recovery kernel' so I can fix this, and when mounting it says "error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features", then mounts anyway |
| 18:10.25 | simbalion | greycat: thanks |
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| 18:14.17 | greycat | As far as #!/bin/bash on rc.local or on scripts launched from it -- sure. Whatever floats your boat. |
| 18:14.39 | greycat | I wouldn't *recommend* using bashisms in rc.local itself, but in scripts run from it I would consider it fair game. |
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| 18:17.41 | jelly | greycat: was that jessie on 3.2 using sysvinit or systemd? |
| 18:17.47 | greycat | systemd |
| 18:17.51 | bin-plymouth | somiaj: I did try adding a user, but I can't even attempt a graphical login no matter what |
| 18:17.55 | greycat | (still is, not 'was') |
| 18:17.58 | bin-plymouth | I am just screwed |
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| 18:25.49 | simbalion | is there a ls command to list only directories? |
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| 18:26.05 | kripx | and file |
| 18:26.05 | greycat | ls -d */ |
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| 18:29.00 | MisterGadfly | Does someone why terminusmodx's icons won't show? |
| 18:29.18 | MisterGadfly | They worked in archlinux, but now on debian they come up garbled |
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| 18:33.45 | simbalion | I tried to create /etc/default/bootlogd with BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=yes in it but I dunno if it did anything, I dont see a boot log in /var/log |
| 18:34.20 | greycat | In wheezy? |
| 18:34.26 | simbalion | jessie |
| 18:34.33 | greycat | Jessie uses journalctl instead. |
| 18:34.39 | jhutchins | ,v terminusmodx |
| 18:34.40 | judd | No package named 'terminusmodx' was found in amd64. |
| 18:34.53 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: Did you install this from Debian sources? |
| 18:35.01 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: no |
| 18:35.05 | simbalion | greycat: where can I find the log? |
| 18:35.18 | greycat | type "journalctl" |
| 18:35.21 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: from here https://sourceforge.net/projects/terminusmod/ |
| 18:35.34 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: So there's the rough answer, not a Debian package. |
| 18:35.35 | simbalion | greycat: It's a non booting system I don't have full command access |
| 18:35.48 | greycat | ... (as root) |
| 18:35.51 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: Now the question is how to modify the source to install properly in Debian. |
| 18:36.08 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: Did you build a deb package or just configure/make/make install? |
| 18:36.32 | greycat | simbalion: then I guess you get to read what's printed on the console |
| 18:36.45 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: I manually copied the files the way the README described |
| 18:37.23 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: the standard characters show, but the icons for battery, memory and stuff don't |
| 18:37.26 | fred1807 | if I install htpdate packege, will I end up with a oncurrency of time daemons? |
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| 18:40.05 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: Did you install it the same way on arch, or from an arch package? |
| 18:40.28 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: arch package in the AUR |
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| 18:41.11 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: the steps to package it https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=terminusmod |
| 18:41.15 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: My guess (and only that) would be that it requires some additional package or library. You could look more carefully at what arch installs with the font file, and what else the arch package might do. |
| 18:41.38 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: You could also contact whatver support the project has and see if they know what it needs. |
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| 18:42.21 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: Chances of finding someone else who's had and has solved the problem are pretty slim on irc, there might be forums that talk about it. |
| 18:42.37 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: I'm starting to lose hope already :D |
| 18:42.45 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: I'm sure the project would appreciate being able to document how to use it with Debian. |
| 18:43.08 | jhutchins | MisterGadfly: It just depends on how much effort you want to put into it. You could learn a lot. |
| 18:43.58 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: it's kinda abandoned |
| 18:46.44 | MisterGadfly | jhutchins: thanks nonetheless |
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| 19:04.14 | d3lphi | hi all. Every few seconds I get lots of messages in /var/log/syslog like that " kernel: [ 2202.657678] netlink: 4 bytes leftover after parsing attributes." my log is flooded with these lines. What does that mean, where does it come from and how can I mitigate it ? any help appreciated |
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| 19:05.04 | jhutchins | d3lphi: Do you have a firewall enabled? |
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| 19:05.24 | d3lphi | jhutchins: not that I'm aware of. "iptables -L" doesnt produce any output |
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| 19:08.01 | jhutchins | d3lphi: Probably generated by your NIC driver. WIred or wifi? |
| 19:08.12 | d3lphi | wired |
| 19:08.26 | d3lphi | jhutchins: weird |
| 19:08.34 | tuxopenwrt | i accidentally did cat .iso /dev/sdb and now i cant write to usb as the /dev/sdb is 10M 0% free |
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| 19:08.58 | tuxopenwrt | how to reclaim |
| 19:09.31 | jhutchins | tuxopenwrt: You should be able to overwrite it, or format it with parted. |
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| 19:10.24 | tuxopenwrt | you mean /dev/sdb |
| 19:10.43 | tuxopenwrt | or the usb |
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| 19:14.18 | simbalion | Can someone help me fix this booting issue? I'm stuck |
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| 19:15.14 | mayhew | simbalion: what's the issue? |
| 19:16.48 | simbalion | mayhew: I upgraded from wheezy to jessie on this digital ocean droplet 8 months ago, I rebooted it for the first time today and it does not boot. it hangs at "raise network interface". |
| 19:17.05 | simbalion | I can access it from a 'recovery kernel' but have very limited commands available |
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| 19:18.02 | simbalion | I thought maybe it was squid causing problems cause there's something in /var/log/messages about squid just before the log ends, so I removed squid from /etc/init.d and that did not fix it |
| 19:18.16 | simbalion | there's nothing else in messages and I can't find a boot log so I'm stuck |
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| 19:19.10 | simbalion | mayhew: someone suggested it may be an init issue but I dont know where to look or what to change |
| 19:19.52 | simbalion | mayhew: I mean, that stuff should have been changed during the upgrade anyway.. web searches for this issue have turned up nothing so I'm presuming it doesn't happen often |
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| 19:25.51 | mayhew | I'm not too sure.. Did you reboot it when you first upgraded to jessie? |
| 19:25.59 | simbalion | no |
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| 19:27.27 | mayhew | Yeah that's a mistake right there. You should be rebooting semi-regularly to apply kernel updates anyways. Especially for an OS update like that. You have backups right? |
| 19:27.48 | simbalion | mayhew: no kidding :p |
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| 19:28.02 | simbalion | I've got backups from last week. I'd rather not use them because I made a ton of changes in the past week |
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| 19:28.13 | simbalion | It should be a simple fix |
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| 19:33.18 | simbalion | the last line of /var/log/dmesg is nf_conntrack version 0.5.0, I think that is where it hangs |
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| 19:34.24 | mayhew | well it sounds like a systemd problem to me, that was the major change between wheezy and jessie |
| 19:34.29 | mayhew | simbalion: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ might help |
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| 19:37.05 | simbalion | mayhew: it's a networking issue whatever it is, I removed networking from /etc/init.d and it booted |
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| 19:39.58 | jhutchins | simbalion: nf_contrack is a firewall/IPTABLES thing. |
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| 19:42.22 | simbalion | I've made progress, if I do /etc/init.d/networking start it says no such file |
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| 19:44.45 | verrlara | Hi... |
| 19:44.49 | verrlara | umm |
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| 19:44.59 | verrlara | Is there a good webui for mpd? |
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| 19:46.26 | mayhew | simbalion: /quit |
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| 19:49.19 | simbalion | ah I may have fixed it, I created a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ which was trying to access a non-existent directory |
| 19:49.27 | greycat | good find |
| 19:49.49 | simbalion | hrm it's still hanging, but I think it's related to that script so I'm gonna try disabling it next |
| 19:49.51 | greycat | I figured it had to be something unique to your system, not a general problem, because nobody else has ever run into it. |
| 19:50.16 | simbalion | greycat: yeah my thoughts too |
| 19:50.19 | jhutchins | verrlara: mpd being which? Multilink PPP Daemon? |
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| 19:50.39 | jelly | that'd be mpppd! |
| 19:50.42 | verrlara | jhutchins: Music Player Daemon |
| 19:51.22 | verrlara | I am trying to make a personal streaming service for myself. |
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| 19:51.48 | jhutchins | Valdebrick: Lots: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients |
| 19:52.04 | jhutchins | verrlara: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients |
| 19:52.10 | jhutchins | Stupid keyboard. |
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| 19:53.09 | jhutchins | verrlara: aptitude search mpd shows several. |
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| 19:57.06 | verrlara | I see regular clients but I am not seeing a web ui |
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| 19:57.47 | verrlara | I guess I will just have to use icecast. But I had hoped there was a mpd specific interface. |
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| 20:04.48 | simbalion | Hrm, I did an iptables --flush and now sudo hangs, why would that be? |
| 20:05.03 | greycat | Coincidence? |
| 20:05.13 | simbalion | I don't think so.. |
| 20:05.40 | greycat | I can't think of any relationship between iptables and sudo, unless your sudo is being issues over a network connection. |
| 20:06.10 | simbalion | I got an email saying can't resolve the domain name, I wonder if that's related |
| 20:06.31 | jhutchins | verboese: I would guess that some of those clients would work over a network, but not sure which are web based. It would take the hard work of adding a term to the google search for "mpd client". |
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| 20:06.51 | greycat | he left. |
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| 20:07.00 | jhutchins | verboese: Bad enought I can't type, people don't stick around! |
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| 20:11.06 | greycat | Was it "sudo some command that looks up domain names"? |
| 20:11.20 | simbalion | greycat: nope just sudo su |
| 20:11.41 | greycat | Gah, why do people keep doing that.... "sudo -i" or "sudo bash". |
| 20:12.04 | simbalion | the email complained it can't resolve domain.net, /etc/hosts had 127.0.0.1 localhost domain, but did not have domain.net so I added it, dunno if that matters or not |
| 20:12.14 | simbalion | greycat: why does it matter? |
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| 20:12.31 | greycat | It's pointless to run both sudo *and* su. |
| 20:12.52 | greycat | it would be like running sh -c 'sh -c "a command"' |
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| 20:13.07 | simbalion | greycat: redundant maybe, pointless no, the point was to get a root prompt. it works so it's a valid method, unless there's some good reason not to |
| 20:13.12 | greycat | sudo -i |
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| 20:13.24 | simbalion | that's the same number of keypresses |
| 20:13.36 | simbalion | and the hyphen is a longer stretch for the fingers |
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| 20:13.48 | simbalion | I mean, if we're gonna weigh the options ;) |
| 20:14.05 | greycat | Anyway, I don't know if either of those would do a domain name lookup. sudoers config is confusing as hell to me and I can't even figure out what's possible. I suppose either one could do NIS lookups if you're on NIS, but that shouldn't use DNS because the ypclient should already have done it. |
| 20:14.08 | jelly | useless use of cat^H^H^Hsu |
| 20:14.30 | simbalion | greycat: yeah I have no idea why it was trying to lookup anything |
| 20:14.43 | simbalion | it was doing it for any sudo command, I tried a few to test |
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| 20:15.26 | vook | sudo -i gives you a log-in shell for root, reads rc files, etc. sudo su does not |
| 20:15.29 | greycat | is your sudoers configured to check hostnames somehow? |
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| 20:15.48 | jelly | sudoers can have host-specific syntax; permissions may or may not be available depending on the host it's running on |
| 20:16.06 | simbalion | vook: that's a good reason I suppose, but I never use root for anything so I don't have any shell stuff configured |
| 20:16.42 | vook | either way, they aren't equivs, sudo -i = sudo su - |
| 20:16.46 | simbalion | all this trouble because I want to block china and australia from my server |
| 20:17.06 | jelly | vook: that'd be sudo -l |
| 20:17.18 | simbalion | personally I prefer to never use root because sudo is logged |
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| 20:17.24 | greycat | jelly: no, sudo -i is --login |
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| 20:17.40 | jelly | greycat: oh that's just silly |
| 20:17.53 | greycat | so is host-specific stuff in /etc/sudoers |
| 20:18.09 | vook | the -i means interactive if I'm not mistaken |
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| 20:18.27 | jhutchins | vook: In any case it has the effect of a root shell. |
| 20:18.30 | greycat | -i, --login Run the shell specified by the target user's password data- base entry as a login shell. |
| 20:18.42 | vook | jhutchins: yes, I understand. |
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| 20:19.15 | vook | greycat: ...If no command is specified, an interactive shell is executed. |
| 20:19.25 | greycat | whereas "sudo su" means "switch my effective UID to root, then switch my effective UID to root, then do something" and "something" just happens to be "run a shell" |
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| 20:20.05 | jelly | greycat: I particularly love going thru PAM twice, with possibly different configs |
| 20:20.10 | greycat | Indeed. |
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| 20:20.40 | jelly | they really ought to "sudo exec su -" |
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| 20:24.08 | jhutchins | In all systems I've used where sudo was implemented, I have tried to issue individual commands via sudo, but I've always ended up in a root shell. I just don't have the patience. |
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| 20:24.49 | greycat | I'll sometimes do the individual-sudo-commands thing. Depends on how much work is to be done, and whether any of it involves files in a directory where only root can tab-complete the filenames. |
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| 20:27.57 | simbalion | I use sudo so much that I use it at root prompts by mistake |
| 20:28.03 | jelly | our devs and system analysts are very happy with limited sudo access to just restart their own crap, or just mount their own crap |
| 20:28.04 | simbalion | it's just second nature now |
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| 20:38.25 | jhutchins | jelly: Yeah, it can be very useful in a restricted environment. |
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| 20:50.54 | jhutchins | As for sudo su - logging: su[11937]: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user root by jhutchins <- totally redundant. |
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| 20:51.28 | jhutchins | So unless you're restricting it to and using it for individual commands, it's pointless. |
| 20:52.04 | greycat | It's one of those bad habits that catch on and are incredibly hard to stamp out. |
| 20:52.05 | jelly | well, 15 years back sudo did not have -i |
| 20:52.17 | greycat | you could still have done sudo bash like a regular person would do |
| 20:52.27 | jelly | and "sudo su -" is shorter than "sudo bash -l" |
| 20:52.36 | dTal | I always do sudo -s |
| 20:52.38 | dTal | am I wrong |
| 20:53.14 | jelly | and maybe root's login shell isn't bash |
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| 21:24.19 | piercedwater | i came from osx to debian and couldnt be happier....i use gnome 3 with piles of extensions |
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| 21:26.37 | mastr_bennett[x] | piercedwater: really? why? |
| 21:26.55 | piercedwater | i wasnt happy with the direction they were taking upgrade ability on their hw |
| 21:27.21 | piercedwater | soldiering things in and what not |
| 21:27.27 | mastr_bennett[x] | mmkay. I feel you on that one. |
| 21:27.29 | piercedwater | but yeah |
| 21:27.41 | mastr_bennett[x] | so you went to windows machines w/ linux then? |
| 21:27.52 | piercedwater | ? |
| 21:27.59 | mastr_bennett[x] | s/machines/laptops |
| 21:28.17 | piercedwater | mmm i guess you could put it that way |
| 21:28.25 | piercedwater | linux on windows hw, yeah |
| 21:28.57 | piercedwater | what would some other options have been? |
| 21:28.59 | mastr_bennett[x] | which laptop vendor+model did you go with? |
| 21:29.24 | piercedwater | well i didn't buy a new laptop, i just moved to an HP Envy 700-74 and installed Debian |
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| 21:29.36 | piercedwater | desktop unit |
| 21:30.12 | mastr_bennett[x] | piercedwater: you could have stuck with a version of mac hardware that was still upgradable (that's what I did) |
| 21:30.18 | piercedwater | ahh |
| 21:30.27 | piercedwater | true |
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| 21:30.37 | mastr_bennett[x] | or put linux on your mac (also did that: https://orville.thebennettproject.com/articles/installing-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-a-2011-macbook-pro/) |
| 21:30.51 | zinx | there are companies that make linux laptops :/ |
| 21:31.09 | jelly | and there are companies that make decent laptops |
| 21:31.27 | piercedwater | i opted for selling at good price to a buddy |
| 21:31.56 | mastr_bennett[x] | zinx: when I pay for a laptop i want perfection. that's why i've stuck with macs. trackpad needs to be perfect, and i've yet to find that on any windows machine let alone linux. |
| 21:32.00 | zinx | mastr_bennett[x]: i don't think sticking with an upgradable mac is going to work for very long :) |
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| 21:32.36 | mastr_bennett[x] | zinx: true. I'm looking to "upgrade" this year and have been looking at new macs and new Dell's that come with ubuntu |
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| 21:32.54 | jelly | mastr_bennett[x]: any laptop without a trackpoint is, by definition, imperfect |
| 21:33.18 | mastr_bennett[x] | trackPAD, not trackpoint |
| 21:33.32 | mastr_bennett[x] | that lenovo/ibm trackpoint thing is absolute trash. |
| 21:33.45 | jelly | /cs kick mastr_bennett[x] |
| 21:33.56 | zinx | not a fan of nipples on laptops/keyboards myself |
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| 21:38.08 | jhutchins | I had a boss who bought that apple line for a while - until he realized that their hardware changes just as often as anybody else's. |
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| 21:40.51 | jhutchins | I don't think it's accurate to call it "windows hardware" any more, given that there are systems that ship with Linux, and a HUGE number of servers that are running some form of *nix on i86 hardware. |
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| 22:03.12 | DeaDSouL | Hi, I'm trying to delete a folder as root in my server with `rm -rfv .AppleDouble` but it says: `rm: cannot remove `.AppleDouble': Directory not empty` when I list that folder with `ls -lah` i found a strange info there like this: `-?????????? ? ? ? ? ? MCT OVA 12 - roOoby .mp4` so I tried `file 'MCT OVA 12 - ro0oby .mp4'` and it says: `MCT OVA 12 - roOoby .mp4: ERROR: cannot open `MCT OVA 12 - roOoby .mp4' (No such file or directo |
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| 22:05.19 | LtL | DeaDSouL: stat directoryname - what permission does it have |
| 22:05.23 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, try checking the filesystem. It looks like a filesystem corruption. |
| 22:06.04 | LtL | DeaDSouL: don't cross-post please |
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| 22:06.39 | unborn | LtL: cross-post? |
| 22:06.59 | LtL | unborn: he's asking in ##linux also |
| 22:07.09 | unborn | LtL: and? |
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| 22:08.14 | LtL | unborn: its poor etiquette to crosspost |
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| 22:09.31 | unborn | LtL: I would understand if he post that question on all debian channels but he post it on different channel completely nothing to do with this one.. and his question is legit as it is touching about issue having on linux.. so where do you see poor etiquette or cross-post |
| 22:09.59 | unborn | LtL: ah I understand.. because you sitting there and you dont like it.. sorry |
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| 22:10.35 | LtL | unborn: why should anyone here help if he's asking elsewhere |
| 22:11.09 | vook | many debian members don't watch ##linux |
| 22:11.14 | vook | and visa versa |
| 22:11.48 | LtL | unborn: im sure youre not new to IRC, neither am i crossposting is frowned upon, think what you like |
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| 22:12.38 | unborn | LtL: sure. I was just asking why not to ask elsewhere too.. perhaps he was in urgency or something.. end of the day its not my business. |
| 22:12.48 | vook | I've heard the same, and I'd completely agree if it was cross-posting between freenode and oftc, but anyway... |
| 22:12.55 | unborn | just wanted to know |
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| 22:22.28 | DeaDSouL | back sorry |
| 22:22.44 | DeaDSouL | Brigo: it says: stat: cannot stat `MCT OVA 12 - roOoby .mp4': No such file or directory |
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| 22:24.26 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, i said you should check the fileystem for errors not stat any file. |
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| 22:25.35 | DeaDSouL | Brigo: how can I check the filesystem |
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| 22:26.43 | dTal | DeaDSouL: I second the "corrupt filesystem" explanation, and strongly suggest that before doing anything else you should back up important files |
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| 22:28.32 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, that link is quite good: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/ |
| 22:28.40 | dTal | actually wait |
| 22:28.53 | dTal | do what LtL said to start with |
| 22:29.03 | dTal | check the directory permissions |
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| 22:29.08 | dTal | (not the file permissions) |
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| 22:29.29 | Brigo | dTal, he did it, check his messages. |
| 22:29.33 | Miesco | Hi. How come my ip gets changed to a dynamic one when I have a static one in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 22:29.49 | Miesco | I don't have NetworkManager... |
| 22:30.00 | dTal | you mean this? 23:32 < DeaDSouL> Brigo: it says: stat: cannot stat `MCT OVA 12 - roOoby .mp4': No such file or directory |
| 22:30.18 | Brigo | dTal, yes |
| 22:30.19 | dTal | because that's the file, not the directory .AppleDouble |
| 22:30.28 | Brigo | dTal, right. |
| 22:30.58 | Brigo | Miesco, it shouldn't |
| 22:31.02 | DeaDSouL | here: https://s32.postimg.org/v0v8i7dn9/Screen_Shot_2016_06_28_at_1_30_12_AM.png |
| 22:31.04 | Brigo | is dhcpd running? |
| 22:31.47 | DeaDSouL | no, but bindfs is |
| 22:32.19 | DeaDSouL | but I'm trying to delete it from the original ext3 mount point |
| 22:32.26 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, i was talking with Miesco :) |
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| 22:33.39 | DeaDSouL | :p |
| 22:35.34 | dTal | there's something odd going on in that screenshot |
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| 22:36.22 | dTal | why would ls -lah in the *parent* directory give "blahblah.mp4: no such file or directory"? |
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| 22:38.07 | dTal | maybe also check the perms on the "Japanese" directory, since you can't even 'ls' inside that? |
| 22:38.42 | Brigo | dTal, you can try it. |
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| 22:39.24 | Brigo | dTal, but i think you were root, so no permission problems. |
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| 22:42.15 | dTal | Brigo: I'm not DeaDSouL |
| 22:43.03 | Brigo | dTal, too late for me, dude :D |
| 22:43.23 | dTal | However I did try it and indeed no amount of permission mangling could provoke that effect as root |
| 22:43.56 | dTal | so I will default back to "borked filesystem" |
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| 22:45.23 | Brigo | anyway, i am off, going to be, bye and good luck DeaDSouL :) |
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| 22:46.03 | Brigo | going to bed* :) |
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| 22:50.24 | psylence | I feel so stupid for asking this. But how do I figure out the name of my wireless interface? |
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| 22:51.55 | DeaDSouL | thanks Brigo :) gn |
| 22:52.01 | psylence | ifconfig.. and I'm not even high -_-' |
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| 22:55.24 | dTal | Poor psylence left before anyone could tell them that 'ifconfig' is deprecated |
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| 22:56.16 | count | heyho |
| 22:56.59 | count | are there any known issue with Xenial server, where the keyboard input stops working (while console switching still works) and the network stacks also seems to stop working in userspace? |
| 22:57.46 | count | having the issue reliably with kernels 4.4.0-28 and earlier from the release, also tried 3.19.0-61 with the same result |
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| 22:59.06 | count | somehow feels like a weird userspace issue affecting daemons, e.g. ssh and getty are stopping working. nothing in the logs, nothing on the console. |
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| 23:02.09 | vook | that's nor really a debian question |
| 23:02.13 | vook | *not |
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| 23:05.27 | count | it isn't. I'm on the wrong channel. oh damn. |
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| 23:06.01 | count | I'm usually using Debian on all of my server except that one. heh. |
| 23:06.08 | count | sorry for that :D |
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| 23:35.02 | bittin | Is there gonna be streaming of Debconf this year ? |
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| 23:38.49 | hobbily_ | hi |
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