| 00:00.19 | sm00th | not sure if there is dependencies you will also need. this is a good question though lol |
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| 00:00.39 | Akuw | when run update-grub i got http://paste.debian.net/769270/ |
| 00:01.28 | sm00th | iggyZiggy, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/27100/how-to-install-kernel-on-debian-with-no-internet-connection |
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| 00:03.16 | awal1 | Akuw, not really good about grub stuff but you may want to reinstall grub |
| 00:03.41 | sm00th | iggyZiggy, last suggestion look the easiest. |
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| 00:04.29 | awal1 | Akum, seems like your system is not fully up-to-date? |
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| 00:06.04 | Akuw | is up to date |
| 00:06.25 | Akuw | i just reinstall grub2 but got same message when try to update-grub |
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| 00:08.28 | sm00th | tks for reminding me to update |
| 00:08.49 | sm00th | oh and it updating the kernel lmao |
| 00:09.09 | awal1 | grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 00:09.22 | awal1 | Akuw, ^ |
| 00:09.35 | Akuw | doing it |
| 00:10.07 | awal1 | change sda if you want it in another location |
| 00:10.13 | Akuw | no problems to do |
| 00:10.23 | sm00th | bbiab |
| 00:10.33 | Akuw | but same problem to update-grub |
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| 00:14.33 | cesurasean2 | hey guys, im trying to mount a drive with google cloud, and i do as they say to do; sudo mount -o discard,defaults /dev/disk/by-id/google-[DISK_NAME] /mnt/disks/[MNT_DIR] |
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| 00:14.35 | cesurasean2 | but it wont mount |
| 00:14.43 | cmtptr | does anyone else notice that their mousewheel doesn't scroll in wireshark on jessie? |
| 00:14.58 | cesurasean2 | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb, |
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| 00:15.24 | cesurasean2 | i checked with fsck ,and the disk seems good, so what gives? why can't i mount? |
| 00:16.37 | x86iac | cesurasean2: where is the google cloud? |
| 00:16.50 | cesurasean2 | cloud.google.com? |
| 00:17.23 | x86iac | you are mounting something on your local computer /dev/...... |
| 00:17.30 | cesurasean2 | i suspect the drive is encrypted |
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| 00:18.46 | awal1 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=708084 |
| 00:18.48 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/708084 in grub2 (closed): «grub2: GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured grub-mkconfig will not work until the upgrade is complete.»; severity: grave; opened: 2013-05-12; last modified: 2013-09-09. |
| 00:18.53 | awal1 | Akuw, ^ |
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| 00:21.47 | iggyZiggy | sm00th: thank you, i'll give it a shot :) |
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| 00:28.06 | iggyZiggy | searching for linux-image and i got results for 4.2 and 4.4, on web it says 4.3 is experimental, will 4.4 do? |
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| 00:43.18 | TomTomTosch | iggyZiggy: you will need the firmware-atheros from jessie-backports. |
| 00:43.56 | TomTomTosch | iggyZiggy: your card is listed in the supported devices. https://packages.debian.org/de/jessie-backports/firmware-atheros |
| 00:44.22 | iggyZiggy | progress, nice! |
| 00:44.23 | iggyZiggy | :D |
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| 00:47.48 | iggyZiggy | alright, i've downloaded firware-atheros.deb, copied it to other laptop, dpkg -i it, what now? |
| 00:48.22 | x86iac | modprobe atheros ? |
| 00:48.37 | x86iac | and check /var/log/messages for errors |
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| 00:50.27 | iggyZiggy | well... maybe i did something wrong |
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| 00:50.47 | iggyZiggy | fatal: module atheros not found |
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| 00:51.24 | iggyZiggy | and got 3 errors, 2 are usb and 1 is gnome session |
| 00:52.49 | x86iac | modprobe ath9k ? |
| 00:52.52 | iggyZiggy | when i dpkg -i atheros... i get unpacking... and setting up firmware-atheros (0.43) |
| 00:53.10 | iggyZiggy | nothing |
| 00:53.31 | iggyZiggy | just a new line |
| 00:53.53 | iggyZiggy | hey hey hey |
| 00:54.11 | iggyZiggy | got something in messages |
| 00:54.20 | TomTomTosch | i think the module way ath10k or ath10k_pci not sure. |
| 00:54.33 | iggyZiggy | bunch of KHz |
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| 00:55.28 | x86iac | https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/atheros |
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| 00:56.25 | iggyZiggy | nope, still no wireless |
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| 00:56.44 | iggyZiggy | x86iac, which one should i download? |
| 00:56.58 | TomTomTosch | iggyZiggy: if you type lspci -k, what module is loaded for your card? |
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| 00:58.17 | iggyZiggy | got a bunch of them, i guess you're interested in Qualcomm Aheros Device 003e (rev 32) |
| 00:58.52 | TomTomTosch | yes, your *wifi* card |
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| 00:59.26 | iggyZiggy | judd asked for hex and copied this after that |
| 00:59.28 | iggyZiggy | [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:003e |
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| 01:00.33 | TomTomTosch | i would like to know which kernel module is loaded for your wifi card. you can see it if you type lspci -k the line is 'Kernel driver in use:' |
| 01:01.10 | TomTomTosch | so it's blank? |
| 01:01.38 | x86iac | lsmod |
| 01:02.16 | LtL | iggyZiggy: i didn't read you right, sorry about that, thought you meant ethernet card not wifi |
| 01:02.28 | x86iac | ath10k is for that adapter |
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| 01:02.43 | iggyZiggy | yes, blank |
| 01:02.58 | iggyZiggy | LtL ethernet doesn't work either :D |
| 01:03.09 | iggyZiggy | it's some killer e2400 |
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| 01:03.20 | x86iac | did you install the debian with the wireless plugged in? |
| 01:03.32 | TomTomTosch | and what exactly does (as root) modprobe -v ath10k_pci say? |
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| 01:04.13 | RayzrShrp | does the wget package in jessie not support ssl downloads? |
| 01:04.14 | x86iac | yea you have to be root for this |
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| 01:04.28 | RayzrShrp | wget wordpress no longer works and now gives me a certificate error |
| 01:04.50 | iggyZiggy | i'm root |
| 01:04.57 | iggyZiggy | sec for modprobe |
| 01:06.16 | iggyZiggy | too long to write, got 2 lines starting with insmod and a path to ath10k core and pci files |
| 01:06.35 | iggyZiggy | .ko |
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| 01:07.17 | TomTomTosch | so it errors out and lspci -k is still blank for the kernel module of your card? |
| 01:07.20 | iggyZiggy | 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 01:08.56 | iggyZiggy | got just network controller and below that subsystem: Bigfoot networks, Inc. Device 1535, no "kernel in use" |
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| 01:09.44 | DebianNewbie | Hello everyone |
| 01:09.54 | DebianNewbie | I'm new to the sys admin stuff and I need help regarding iptables |
| 01:09.56 | iggyZiggy | hello my fellow newbie |
| 01:10.01 | DebianNewbie | I'm using Debian 8 jessie |
| 01:10.42 | DebianNewbie | Is there a way to track incoming connection a in router machine? |
| 01:10.56 | x86iac | log them? |
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| 01:13.03 | DebianNewbie | For example an incoming connection comes from eth0 randomIPhere and wants to use port 80. I use nat and pre routing to redirect it towards an ip and another port |
| 01:13.18 | DebianNewbie | But for some reason it doesn't work and I can't really find where |
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| 01:14.07 | TomTomTosch | iggyZiggy: sry, it's hard for me to help as i never had the displeasure to work with that model of wifi card and there is little to no documentation on this. if you don't get it fixed now you could try again later, maybe you will catch someone who has a better idea. |
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| 01:14.57 | Akuw | is there any software to rcord video using my webcam? |
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| 01:16.57 | iggyZiggy | i think i messed something up very badly |
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| 01:17.19 | brimonk | Hey all. Question: if I define interfaces within /etc/network/interfaces , shouldn't my interfaces be updated within ip link show and ifconfig and so on? |
| 01:17.29 | iggyZiggy | looks like i did upgrade kernel to 4.4 |
| 01:17.58 | iggyZiggy | and now my speakers (i hope to god that was speaker) made a noise like something burned |
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| 01:18.25 | iggyZiggy | dmesg is full of evbug errors |
| 01:18.35 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath10k says in the news that "2015-01-27 QCA6174 support added, will be in 3.20" so a newer kernel from backports should work |
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| 01:19.44 | iggyZiggy | jmcnaught: can you walk me trough it? looks like i made some damage on my own :D |
| 01:19.45 | jmcnaught | brimonk: have you changed the interfaces file since the last boot? |
| 01:20.14 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: i don't know everything you've done so far, i sorta scanned the backlog looking for the pciid message from judd |
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| 01:20.51 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: but you can check which kernel you're using with "uname -a" |
| 01:21.01 | iggyZiggy | i have followed some stackoverflow answer and downloaded linux image 4.4 and dpkg -i it |
| 01:21.10 | iggyZiggy | yup, it's 4.4 |
| 01:21.22 | brimonk | jmcnaught: Yes, I have. |
| 01:21.25 | jmcnaught | !tell iggyZiggy about bdo |
| 01:21.29 | jmcnaught | !tell iggyZiggy about bdo kernel |
| 01:21.56 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: Debian has a backports repo with newer kernels. does the computer have an ethernet connection while you work on this? |
| 01:22.02 | TomTomTosch | Akuw: sure, vlc player is one. |
| 01:22.18 | jmcnaught | brimonk: could you show your interfaces file in a paste? |
| 01:22.40 | awal1 | Akuw, I use cheese. does the job fine |
| 01:22.52 | iggyZiggy | nope, can't install ethernet drivers either, stuck with transfering files with usb |
| 01:23.30 | x86iac | how new is this installation? |
| 01:23.40 | brimonk | jmcnaught: Here it is: http://termbin.com/p200 |
| 01:23.47 | awal1 | also there is guvcview , if you want a non gnome software |
| 01:23.49 | iggyZiggy | so i guess there's no easy way to revert back to old kernel? |
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| 01:24.15 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: okay. and "lspci -k | grep -A2 -i net" still shows no kernel driver in use? |
| 01:24.29 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: the old kernel is probably still there as a boot option in the grub menu |
| 01:25.02 | iggyZiggy | ok i'll revert back to that one, this one is freaking me out with burning noise :D |
| 01:25.03 | pencilandpaper | iggyZiggy: after installing a new kernel did your sound go? |
| 01:25.08 | jmcnaught | brimonk: why are you using allow-hotplug instead of auto? |
| 01:26.07 | brimonk | jmcnaught: user jbeez (I don't think he's in this room) said that that's what I should do. |
| 01:26.28 | iggyZiggy | jmcnaught, thank you, got back to previous kernel |
| 01:27.14 | iggyZiggy | and yes, still no kernel driver in use |
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| 01:28.42 | iggyZiggy | maybe i did something wrong, can you link me the drivers to install? i have tried grabbing drivers from this machine with apt-get --print-uris and manually downloading ath9 and 10 |
| 01:29.29 | brimonk | jmcnaught: But, I can remove it. |
| 01:29.40 | jmcnaught | brimonk: if you want them to come up at boot i think you should use auto, but it's worth checking the interfaces(5) man page because i'm a little tired ;) |
| 01:29.57 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: what about when you were booted in the 4.4 kernel? |
| 01:30.08 | iggyZiggy | pencilandpaper: yes, if you mean my sound went in some kind of burning mode :D |
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| 01:31.01 | iggyZiggy | i'll try again, can't remember, was too freaked out |
| 01:31.07 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: this is one reason i usually buy used laptops. they're a little older, have better driver support in linux. and money. |
| 01:31.43 | iggyZiggy | i really don't want to go on winX :( |
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| 01:32.05 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-amd64 this page has a download link for the 4.6 kernel from jessie-backports |
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| 01:32.20 | pencilandpaper | What do you mean as in burning mode iggyZiggy ? |
| 01:32.49 | iggyZiggy | like when electronics burn, sound like that |
| 01:33.17 | iggyZiggy | like when you put 12v in 5v arduino |
| 01:33.22 | pencilandpaper | Did you get the kernel from the backports? |
| 01:34.30 | iggyZiggy | i have grabbed it with apt-cache search and later with --print-uris, downloaded to usb and installed on other laptop |
| 01:34.59 | iggyZiggy | someone said that's the easiest way |
| 01:35.30 | pencilandpaper | From backports though iggyZiggy ? (assuming that you are running Jessie?) |
| 01:35.37 | iggyZiggy | oh yeah also wget -c on urls i got from linux-image-4.4.0-something |
| 01:35.55 | DebianNewbie | Where is the log.conf file in Debian? |
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| 01:36.15 | iggyZiggy | i don't now, how do i get it from backports? |
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| 01:36.20 | iggyZiggy | know* |
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| 01:36.47 | pencilandpaper | One sec. |
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| 01:37.56 | xed | Anyone know the debian package that would get me `jar`, the java archive tool? |
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| 01:38.28 | abrotman | !apt-file |
| 01:38.29 | dpkg | apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>. |
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| 01:40.43 | iggyZiggy | or try apt-cache search java (learned that today!) :D |
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| 01:40.53 | iggyZiggy | so proud |
| 01:41.04 | xed | Installing apt-file now. Updating.............................. |
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| 01:42.22 | xed | apt-find find jar | wc -l................ Any guesses? |
| 01:42.32 | xed | 13056 |
| 01:42.51 | xed | This is why Google doesn't work. |
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| 01:45.01 | CppGuy | Hello everyone, how can I read from the serial on Linux using C++? |
| 01:45.46 | somiaj | xed: try /usr/bin/jar (if that is the name of the binary) |
| 01:46.26 | xed | somiaj: the /usr/bin/jar exectuable is not installed - I can't figure out what package it's in. |
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| 01:46.41 | pencilandpaper | If the 4.4 kernel that you have installed isn't from the jessie backports, go ahead and uninstall it using synaptic..and completely remove both the kernel image and the headers..and after you have done so, go root and then run update-grub in terminal iggyZiggy . Then go and restart. Once you have done that and are back in the older kernel..go here to get the backports kernel. ----> |
| 01:46.54 | pencilandpaper | I can't find it right now iggyZiggy , I'm getting there though. :) |
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| 01:47.17 | pencilandpaper | One sec man, I am going to get you to the linux-image and the linux-headers for kernel 4.4 that is in the backports if I can find it. |
| 01:48.11 | iggyZiggy | jmcnaught: i have tried to install 4.6+74 but it depends on 4.6.0-0 |
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| 01:48.23 | iggyZiggy | what about 4.6? |
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| 01:49.13 | iggyZiggy | jmcnaught already pasted the link, i'm just missing one dependency (i guess) |
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| 01:49.43 | xed | Gah... I think I found it... `fastjar` |
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| 01:51.14 | abrotman | xed: eh, not likely |
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| 01:51.53 | xed | abrotman: Why do you say that. I installed it and now I have a `/usr/bin/jar` |
| 01:51.54 | abrotman | xed: you probably want openjdk |
| 01:51.57 | abrotman | ok |
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| 01:52.23 | xed | No. I want to work with the contents of a jar (the unix way) and then put it back. |
| 01:53.25 | iggyZiggy | so many dependencies... |
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| 01:53.32 | pencilandpaper | This is for the kernel-image -----> https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kernel-image&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=jessie-backports This is for the headers ------> I can't find the headers package iggyZiggy . :( |
| 01:53.59 | iggyZiggy | no problem pencilman |
| 01:54.15 | iggyZiggy | what do you think about 4.6? |
| 01:54.40 | iggyZiggy | i'm struggling with dependencies, every time i transfer one file to other machine, something else is missing |
| 01:55.14 | pencilandpaper | I think that you want to deal with the kernels from the backports man so that you have the proper modules, that is why your sound probably isn't working iggyZiggy . |
| 01:55.34 | pencilandpaper | Honestly, a newer kernel isn't necessary with Jessie. You natively run a 3.16. |
| 01:55.40 | pencilandpaper | Which isn't that bad. |
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| 01:56.17 | pencilandpaper | But if you need that newer kernel for some reason, then you always want to get that newer kernel from the backports. |
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| 01:56.32 | iggyZiggy | all i want is my wireless to work :) |
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| 01:56.49 | pencilandpaper | Is that why you were updating your kernel? |
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| 01:56.58 | pencilandpaper | I thought that it was your sound that was trashed? |
| 01:57.04 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: most likely that is due to needing to install non-free firmware. A newer kernel may not be what you need. |
| 01:57.12 | pencilandpaper | Well the easy fix for that is going back to your native kernel, then that should work right? |
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| 01:57.27 | stephanie92 | Hey guys, i'm using debian 8.5 KDE ... and my start button has seemed to disappear ;x any ideas? |
| 01:57.33 | iggyZiggy | i have no idea what i'm doing, just following instructions and somehow now i'm updating kernel to 4.6 and have no idea why |
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| 01:57.58 | pencilandpaper | As far as your wifi working for you iggyZiggy ..we need to find out what your wifi card is iggyZiggy ..and then make sure that your drivers are there. |
| 01:58.16 | pencilandpaper | iggyZiggy: you lost me bro. |
| 01:58.34 | pencilandpaper | Brb, I'm going to go and restart real quick. |
| 01:58.40 | iggyZiggy | ok, i have followed few peoples advices, someone new jumps in and that's how i got to updating kernel :D |
| 01:58.59 | stephanie92 | It's like there is a blue bar over my task bar xD |
| 01:59.30 | iggyZiggy | nice! |
| 01:59.43 | iggyZiggy | i would kill for a problem like that right about now |
| 01:59.45 | iggyZiggy | :D |
| 02:00.42 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: lets get the wifi working. What network card do you have? lspci, and get the chipset. |
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| 02:01.02 | iggyZiggy | sec, i think i can scroll up for that one |
| 02:01.34 | iggyZiggy | [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' |
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| 02:02.34 | iggyZiggy | is this what you want or do you need something more? just tell me the cmds :) |
| 02:02.57 | xed | Works! Using an Oracle platform on Debian to run a Microsoft program that I just made into a jar with `fastjar`. |
| 02:03.40 | xed | Back to Minecraft. |
| 02:03.59 | iggyZiggy | :) |
| 02:05.58 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: that looks to be one of the Atheros cards that needs non-free firmware. You'll need the package firmware-atheros from non-free |
| 02:06.40 | iggyZiggy | link me please |
| 02:06.48 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: and it does look like the person who said get the kernel from backports was correct. Seems you need a jessie-backports kernel with the firmware from jessie-backports. |
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| 02:07.05 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: do you have internet connenction so you can just use apt-get or have to manually copy the .deb's over? |
| 02:07.19 | iggyZiggy | manually |
| 02:07.27 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/firmware-atheros (firmware) |
| 02:07.28 | iggyZiggy | yup, sux to be me right now |
| 02:08.00 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 that is the kernel package you need |
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| 02:08.28 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-base |
| 02:08.42 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: those are the three packages you'll need, that should give you the newer kernel and the firmware for your wifi card. |
| 02:09.04 | iggyZiggy | and that's how i got to updating kernel in the first place |
| 02:09.08 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: copy them over the the machine, run dpkg -i foo1.deb foo2.deb foo3.deb |
| 02:09.30 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: I just like to get back to the root problem to see why you were suggested to do that. |
| 02:09.53 | iggyZiggy | :D |
| 02:10.15 | iggyZiggy | all good, i think i stopped at installing linux base |
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| 02:13.23 | iggyZiggy | ok |
| 02:13.27 | iggyZiggy | restarting |
| 02:13.31 | iggyZiggy | wish me luck |
| 02:14.08 | iggyZiggy | and everything crashed |
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| 02:14.54 | iggyZiggy | black screen with: psmose serio4: symaptics: unable to query device. |
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| 02:15.02 | iggyZiggy | psmouse* |
| 02:15.15 | iggyZiggy | synaptics* |
| 02:15.24 | pencilandpaper | What DE do you use iggyZiggy ? |
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| 02:15.55 | iggyZiggy | ? |
| 02:16.35 | iggyZiggy | 8.5? no idea what you just asked |
| 02:17.28 | pencilandpaper | Ok, your DE is your Desktop Environment. |
| 02:17.42 | pencilandpaper | So gnome, xfce, mate, kde? |
| 02:17.55 | iggyZiggy | oh, it's the default one, gnome i think |
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| 02:18.06 | pencilandpaper | Ok cool, thanks. |
| 02:18.15 | iggyZiggy | i don't like it |
| 02:18.30 | pencilandpaper | Why do you not have internet on the pc with debian installed to it if you don't mind me asking? |
| 02:19.55 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: oh hey sorry i got a phone call and then realized when i came back that i linked you to the metapackage not the actual kernel package. did using the 4.6 kernel that somiaj linked you to yield any progress? |
| 02:20.03 | iggyZiggy | i don't understand what you're asking, i have debian on this old laptop i'm using right now, i like it, i bought a new laptop, installed debian there and... well... you know the problem |
| 02:20.26 | iggyZiggy | yup, black screen with error msg |
| 02:20.27 | pencilandpaper | Ok, thanks iggyZiggy . |
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| 02:21.04 | pencilandpaper | Now it won't boot at all right iggyZiggy ? |
| 02:21.05 | iggyZiggy | installed all 3 packages somiaj suggested |
| 02:21.21 | iggyZiggy | yes, i can see just that error |
| 02:21.35 | pencilandpaper | From mainline ppa did he give you a link for that kernel iggyZiggy ? |
| 02:21.36 | iggyZiggy | psmouse serio4: synaptics: unable to query device. |
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| 02:22.03 | iggyZiggy | this one: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 |
| 02:22.07 | pencilandpaper | Thats a kernel error I believe. |
| 02:22.14 | pencilandpaper | Ok cool iggyZiggy . |
| 02:22.18 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: can you get to a virtual console with ctrl+alt+f1 ? |
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| 02:22.29 | iggyZiggy | yes |
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| 02:23.03 | iggyZiggy | logged in |
| 02:23.16 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: does "lspci -k | grep -A2 -i net" show a module in use now? |
| 02:23.59 | iggyZiggy | YES! |
| 02:24.01 | iggyZiggy | OMG! |
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| 02:24.25 | iggyZiggy | ath10k_pci |
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| 02:24.35 | iggyZiggy | and even for ethernet i have alx |
| 02:24.46 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: if you already have network-manager installed you can run "nmtui" to use the text-menu to try and connect wifi |
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| 02:25.21 | pencilandpaper | Nice jmcnaught . |
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| 02:25.57 | iggyZiggy | erm... |
| 02:26.07 | iggyZiggy | device? |
| 02:26.14 | iggyZiggy | wlan0 or somthing? |
| 02:26.28 | jmcnaught | wlan0 is the wifi interface |
| 02:26.51 | iggyZiggy | do i have to input everything manually? |
| 02:27.07 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: it's not showing you a list of networks? |
| 02:27.38 | iggyZiggy | i have edit a connection, activate and set system hostname |
| 02:28.20 | iggyZiggy | i have ethernet and wired connection 1 to choose |
| 02:28.23 | jmcnaught | activate, then there should be a list |
| 02:28.45 | iggyZiggy | there is a list |
| 02:28.50 | iggyZiggy | wired |
| 02:28.59 | iggyZiggy | -wired connection 1 |
| 02:29.06 | iggyZiggy | Wi-Fi |
| 02:29.17 | iggyZiggy | and nothing under it |
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| 02:29.33 | iggyZiggy | i can just "select" wired connection 1 |
| 02:30.18 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: normally there's a list of scanned networks. could you run "dmesg | grep -i firmware" and see if there are firmwares that failed to load? |
| 02:30.56 | iggyZiggy | :( |
| 02:31.05 | iggyZiggy | yes, ath10k_pci |
| 02:31.16 | iggyZiggy | nvidia |
| 02:31.16 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: what is the filename? |
| 02:31.24 | iggyZiggy | bluetooth |
| 02:31.32 | iggyZiggy | a lot of files |
| 02:31.36 | iggyZiggy | want them all? |
| 02:31.57 | jmcnaught | start with the ath10k stuff, if you get connected then the rest will be easier |
| 02:32.37 | iggyZiggy | ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin (-2) |
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| 02:33.56 | iggyZiggy | ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/firmware-5.bin (-2) |
| 02:34.20 | iggyZiggy | same for -4.bin |
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| 02:35.04 | iggyZiggy | ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/board-2.bin (-2) |
| 02:35.04 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: this is the firmware-atheros from jessie-backports |
| 02:35.08 | jmcnaught | https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/firmware-atheros |
| 02:35.23 | iggyZiggy | ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/board.bin |
| 02:35.49 | iggyZiggy | that's the one i've installed |
| 02:36.46 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: okay, this is the one that you were linked to earlier i see |
| 02:37.05 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: does it say that the file failed to load? what does the line with that filename say? |
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| 02:38.04 | iggyZiggy | direct firmware load for <file> failed with error <error> (-2 all) |
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| 02:38.43 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: what does "apt-cache policy firmware-atheros" say for the Installed: field? |
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| 02:39.49 | iggyZiggy | installed: 20160110-1``bpo8+1 |
| 02:39.57 | iggyZiggy | candidate: same as above |
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| 02:40.08 | iggyZiggy | version table: |
| 02:40.22 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: in the dmesg output, was there anything about an ath10k related firmware loading successfully? |
| 02:40.23 | iggyZiggy | samo string with 0 at the end |
| 02:40.39 | iggyZiggy | let me check |
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| 02:41.36 | iggyZiggy | no, just fails |
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| 02:43.11 | iggyZiggy | but hey, at least we got it to load :D |
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| 02:43.40 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: "nmcli device wifi list" shows no networks? |
| 02:44.11 | iggyZiggy | nope, just headers for the table |
| 02:44.45 | iggyZiggy | that was a longshot, wasn't it :) |
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| 02:45.20 | iggyZiggy | how about a restart? |
| 02:45.40 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: well the kernel wiki i linked to earlier says that the wifi device is supported in kernels after 3.20 |
| 02:45.42 | iggyZiggy | it worked for it crowd |
| 02:46.08 | jmcnaught | i don't know why it's not loading firwmare files if the package that has those files is installed |
| 02:46.36 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: it could be worth trying the ethernet on the new kernel, might make some things easier |
| 02:46.42 | iggyZiggy | maybe some flag while booting? |
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| 02:47.02 | iggyZiggy | worth a shot |
| 02:47.20 | iggyZiggy | how about internet theathering? could that work? |
| 02:47.30 | iggyZiggy | i can plug my phone in |
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| 02:48.00 | jmcnaught | it might work, nmtui might even be able to do it. i've never done it though |
| 02:48.39 | iggyZiggy | one way to find out |
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| 02:50.02 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: what are the make and model of the computer. often you'll find someone has written a blog or wiki on how they got linux installed on a computer |
| 02:50.20 | iggyZiggy | fuck yes! |
| 02:50.25 | iggyZiggy | it works |
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| 02:50.49 | jmcnaught | hey you made some progress then |
| 02:51.03 | iggyZiggy | acer predator G9-792-79HS |
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| 02:51.07 | jmcnaught | we should mind the f-bombs though :) |
| 02:51.10 | iggyZiggy | yeah :D |
| 02:51.22 | iggyZiggy | sorry, excited |
| 02:51.50 | iggyZiggy | it's 5 am here and we got some progress at last |
| 02:52.02 | iggyZiggy | ok, what's next? |
| 02:52.22 | somiaj | I prefer using my phone as a hotspot, then it is just connecting to a wifi (over teathering) |
| 02:52.30 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: what is your next task, pick one |
| 02:52.32 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: it's okay. so when i search for that model and "linux" i get a bunch of results in other languages, so this model might not be available in areas with languages i speak.. did you find anything when you searched? |
| 02:53.24 | iggyZiggy | just a lot of angry customers complaing about lack of support for linux |
| 02:54.06 | iggyZiggy | and i'm pinging google |
| 02:54.10 | iggyZiggy | hooray |
| 02:54.13 | somiaj | support for linux is mostly volunteers. It does help to be picky about the hardware one chooses to buy if one wants to run linux. |
| 02:54.31 | somiaj | but that won't help you now, but we can try, just identify an issue and we'll help you focus on that. |
| 02:55.17 | iggyZiggy | ok, well there is still the same issue with wifi not working but at least we got kernel to load something |
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| 02:55.44 | iggyZiggy | and the other one is it's crashing and i'm stuck in console |
| 02:55.59 | iggyZiggy | guess i can install tmux just for fun |
| 02:56.01 | iggyZiggy | :D |
| 02:56.09 | jmcnaught | somiaj: the 4.6 kernel loads the ath10k_pci module, but the firmware file doesn't load (firmware-atheros from bpo is installed) |
| 02:57.16 | iggyZiggy | also 4.6 loads ethernet drivers too |
| 02:57.35 | iggyZiggy | that's a bonus :D |
| 02:57.52 | somiaj | does dmesg tell what file it is looking for? Did you check that the file is actually in /lib/firmware |
| 02:57.52 | iggyZiggy | and now i can download stuff directly |
| 02:58.09 | iggyZiggy | hold on |
| 02:58.28 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: dmesg | grep firmware |
| 02:59.39 | iggyZiggy | ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin is not |
| 03:01.38 | iggyZiggy | and ls for QCA6174/hw3.0/ returns board.bin and firmware-4.bin but dmesg shows both -4 and -5 throwing errors |
| 03:02.06 | iggyZiggy | and board-2.bin also |
| 03:02.30 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: can you give us the error. |
| 03:02.46 | iggyZiggy | -2 |
| 03:02.52 | iggyZiggy | error is -2 |
| 03:03.02 | somiaj | all it says is error -2, doesn't say anythign else? |
| 03:03.37 | iggyZiggy | firmware: failed to load <path> (-2) |
| 03:03.41 | iggyZiggy | and |
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| 03:04.05 | iggyZiggy | Direct firmare load for <path> failed with error -2 |
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| 03:04.22 | iggyZiggy | same error for every file |
| 03:04.35 | iggyZiggy | with one exception... |
| 03:04.48 | iggyZiggy | this will be a peach to write |
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| 03:06.27 | jmcnaught | !pastebinit |
| 03:06.28 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 03:06.50 | iggyZiggy | firmware ver WLAN.RM.2.0-00180-QCARMSWPZ-1 api 4 features wowlan,ignore-otp,no-4addr-pad crc32 75dee6c5 |
| 03:06.51 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: ^^ you can use this now that you're connected to show us the results of commands |
| 03:07.21 | iggyZiggy | oh god |
| 03:07.38 | iggyZiggy | i got used to not having internet there |
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| 03:08.00 | iggyZiggy | do you want all dmesg dump? |
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| 03:09.17 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: "dmesg | grep firmware" would be more helpful |
| 03:09.32 | iggyZiggy | how can i install pastebinit? |
| 03:09.43 | iggyZiggy | oh nvm |
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| 03:10.16 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: forget about it, it's not working, use nopaste |
| 03:10.36 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: sudo apt-get install nopaste ;and you'll be fine |
| 03:10.45 | iggyZiggy | same usage? |
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| 03:11.19 | jmcnaught | pastebinit works for me but nopaste is fine too.. or "nc termbin.com 9999" |
| 03:11.30 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: yeah nopaste <file_name>, you can paste a command's output through the pipe too, same usage |
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| 03:13.07 | iggyZiggy | keep getting command not found for both |
| 03:13.18 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: no, it does exist |
| 03:13.30 | hassoon | !package nopaste |
| 03:13.40 | hassoon | dpkg: nopaste |
| 03:13.40 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
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| 03:14.00 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: the instructions are written by dpkg |
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| 03:15.10 | iggyZiggy | no packages found, do i need to update something? |
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| 03:15.57 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: apt-get install libapp-nopaste-perl |
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| 03:16.01 | hassoon | did you install that ? |
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| 03:16.13 | iggyZiggy | tried it, got no packeges error |
| 03:16.34 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: then do nopaste <whatever> |
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| 03:16.45 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: how about "dmesg | grep firmware | nc termbin.com 9999" |
| 03:16.54 | iggyZiggy | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libapp-nopaste-perl" |
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| 03:18.07 | iggyZiggy | http://termbin.com/tw1f |
| 03:18.09 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: heck it does exist https://packages.debian.org/jessie/perl/libapp-nopaste-perl |
| 03:18.33 | iggyZiggy | termbin for the win |
| 03:18.48 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: apt-get install libapp-nopaste-perl care to show me your /etc/apt/sources.list~? |
| 03:18.52 | hassoon | * ? |
| 03:19.07 | iggyZiggy | i'll termbin in for you :D |
| 03:19.09 | hassoon | d'oh the damn touchpad ruining my typing |
| 03:19.32 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: I'm really interested in knowing what's wrong there, you care to show me your /etc/apt/sources.list~? |
| 03:19.53 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: although you found an alternative solution |
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| 03:20.25 | iggyZiggy | termbin.com/xsqf |
| 03:20.48 | iggyZiggy | and it's missing E: unable to locate package libapp... |
| 03:20.49 | hassoon | lmfao,what is this |
| 03:20.51 | somiaj | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=126169 -- seems this person got that exact card (by the pciid) to work with a 4.2 kernel and the firmware. Wonder if there was a regression or something else is stoping the firmware from loading. Seems odd |
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| 03:21.16 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: look at you... https://i.imgur.com/3uhz0wh.png |
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| 03:21.57 | iggyZiggy | sorry, just did apt-get, sec |
| 03:22.51 | iggyZiggy | here you go |
| 03:22.52 | iggyZiggy | http://termbin.com/pm9u |
| 03:22.56 | Akuw | where can i get this ===> pycanberra not found on the system |
| 03:23.18 | Akuw | is a weak dependency of piviti |
| 03:23.23 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: holy moly where are the other addresses |
| 03:24.06 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: you need the main lines |
| 03:24.08 | iggyZiggy | this is fresh install, we just managed to get a little bit of internet 20 minutes ago |
| 03:24.28 | hassoon | look at mine http://paste.debian.net/769829/ |
| 03:24.33 | iggyZiggy | somiaj jmcnaught what's next? |
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| 03:25.20 | iggyZiggy | cool, i'll have to add more when i get my wireless card working :D |
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| 03:26.59 | iggyZiggy | somiaj, looks like i'll be building a kernel or something |
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| 03:27.18 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: unsure what the issue could be. |
| 03:28.01 | iggyZiggy | shall we try with 4.2 kernel or something? |
| 03:28.42 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: if you want you can use snapshot.debian.org and try a previous kernel. I would still like to see the output of dmesg | grep firmware and dmesg | grep atk10 |
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| 03:29.01 | iggyZiggy | sure |
| 03:30.10 | iggyZiggy | got a msg in consle "use netcat" |
| 03:31.49 | iggyZiggy | is that some limit with termbin? |
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| 03:32.32 | iggyZiggy | somiaj: http://termbin.com/tw1f |
| 03:32.58 | iggyZiggy | this is grep firmware, looks like i can't use termbin anymore |
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| 03:35.23 | iggyZiggy | ooooh |
| 03:35.29 | iggyZiggy | ath not atk |
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| 03:35.49 | iggyZiggy | and looks like a stream of errors |
| 03:35.57 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: sorry, yea |
| 03:36.08 | iggyZiggy | for dmegs | ath10 |
| 03:36.27 | iggyZiggy | could not suspend target (-11) |
| 03:36.46 | iggyZiggy | failed to enable adaptive qcs: -11 |
| 03:37.08 | iggyZiggy | and it repeats a lot |
| 03:37.27 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: what about the output of find /lib/firmware/ath10k |
| 03:39.12 | somiaj | according to the file list I"m looking at, that package didn't have the correct firmware. |
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| 03:40.25 | iggyZiggy | my phone connection broke and now i can't set it back up |
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| 03:42.53 | iggyZiggy | termbin.com/6iky |
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| 03:43.04 | iggyZiggy | somiaj: |
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| 03:43.48 | iggyZiggy | almost 6 am |
| 03:44.16 | iggyZiggy | any suggestions? |
| 03:44.29 | somiaj | yea you just have a card that has issues. I'm trying to track down the firmware you need |
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| 03:45.16 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: just cause I lost this info, what revesion do you have. you have [168c:003e] what is the revesion number (rev ??), it will be in lspci |
| 03:45.32 | iggyZiggy | 32 i think |
| 03:45.49 | iggyZiggy | yes |
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| 03:46.00 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: since the sun is probably rising there, i would consider making some notes on the progress you've made so far, what you've changed from stock, etc.. before you pass out from exhaustion :) |
| 03:46.18 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: and it is the 168c:003e right (just double checking) |
| 03:46.33 | iggyZiggy | what exhaustion? i have to start working in few hours :D |
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| 03:46.40 | iggyZiggy | yes |
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| 03:49.04 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1520343?comments=all |
| 03:49.06 | iggyZiggy | i think he's onto something :) |
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| 03:49.22 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: check post #22, it is supose to fix the card 168c:003e (rev 32) |
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| 03:50.47 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/tree/master/QCA6174/hw3.0 |
| 03:51.40 | sean_ | need a coupe of questions answered on PXE in debian, I have isc-dhcp-server set what I am not understanding it the pxelinux.0 is this my config file to point to the iso? |
| 03:51.44 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: that is the most upto date version I can find of the firmware and it is supose to work with your card. Download board-2.bin, board.bin and firmware-4.bin from that site, and copy them to /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0 |
| 03:52.02 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: seems people who have gotten it to work have been having to manually downlaod those firmware files. |
| 03:52.08 | iggyZiggy | on it |
| 03:52.09 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: I gotta go, but I'll be back |
| 03:53.03 | sean_ | anyone |
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| 03:56.37 | locrian9 | Can anyone help me with some iptables setup on my ftp server? I have a file setup with four "-A INPUT" instances and five "-A OUTPUT" instances, but when I run "sudo iptables -L" I'm only seeing the following output https://ptpb.pw/fMi-.txt |
| 03:56.41 | locrian9 | I'm issueing the command "sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables/rules.v4". I think that is applying the rules to the live IPCHAIN, isn't it? |
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| 03:57.24 | sean_ | do a iptables -nvL |
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| 03:58.03 | locrian9 | sean: nice one. thanks! |
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| 03:58.12 | locrian9 | sean_: nice one. thanks! |
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| 03:59.22 | tako | hello i installed Debian with encrypted lvm and now i just want to get rid of it because its asking for password on every boot |
| 03:59.53 | sean_ | tako that is it job |
| 04:00.11 | tako | sean_, yea but i wasnt know at the first so now i should remove it |
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| 04:00.53 | sean_ | its a mess if you attempt to remove it |
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| 04:01.02 | sean_ | things will break |
| 04:01.21 | sean_ | you can attempt a script that auto injects it on boot |
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| 04:02.15 | tako | sean_, hmm |
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| 04:03.13 | jmcnaught | tako: or just suspend the computer most of the time |
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| 04:04.39 | tako | script can be good |
| 04:04.42 | tako | how can i do it |
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| 04:04.54 | tako | http://askubuntu.com/questions/59487/how-to-configure-lvm-luks-to-autodecrypt-partition |
| 04:04.59 | tako | maybe i can try this |
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| 04:07.34 | sean_ | who had the iptables issue again |
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| 04:08.21 | tako | or can i just set pass to 1 ? |
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| 04:10.46 | sean_ | tako see if you have /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot |
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| 04:12.19 | tako | i have sean_ |
| 04:12.52 | jmcnaught | tako: you can add a new passphrase to an encrypted luks volume |
| 04:13.23 | sean_ | look for $cryptkeyscript "$cryptkey" | $cryptcreate --key-file=- ; then |
| 04:13.51 | sean_ | and replace it with echo -n "PASSWORD" | $cryptcreate --key-file=- ; then The PASSWORD is your password |
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| 04:16.29 | iggyZiggy | somiaj: thank you so much!!!!!!! |
| 04:16.49 | tako | sean_, is this a way to pass the password asking ? or change my pass |
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| 04:17.34 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: that firmware worked? |
| 04:17.43 | iggyZiggy | yes :D |
| 04:18.12 | iggyZiggy | but now i have black screen |
| 04:18.25 | iggyZiggy | man what a trip |
| 04:18.51 | iggyZiggy | so how do i get back the visual part? :) |
| 04:19.00 | jmcnaught | nice. iggyZiggy i noticed earlier in the paste of your sources.list http://termbin.com/pm9u that you have the cdrom still but not the network mirror for main |
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| 04:19.20 | jmcnaught | !tell iggyZiggy about jessie sources.list |
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| 04:20.16 | iggyZiggy | i'll edit it now |
| 04:20.26 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: I'm unsure why adding the firmware would change if xorg is working or not. But you can look at the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what is not loading |
| 04:20.59 | jmcnaught | i think xorg was failing earlier as well, they were working from a tty |
| 04:21.24 | iggyZiggy | true |
| 04:22.26 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: what do you get from "lspci -nn | grep VGA"? |
| 04:22.47 | iggyZiggy | termbin.com/bg4f |
| 04:24.03 | iggyZiggy | jmcnaught: termbin.com/njbq |
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| 04:25.10 | somiaj | oh lovely you have optimus hardware and it is failing to detect the intel chipset. |
| 04:26.12 | somiaj | ,pciid 8086:191b |
| 04:26.14 | judd | [8086:191b] is 'HD Graphics 530' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:191b |
| 04:26.25 | jmcnaught | that's skylake |
| 04:26.47 | iggyZiggy | i have nvidia gtx980m |
| 04:26.49 | somiaj | ahh maybe the xserver-xorg-video-intel package is needed form jessie-backports |
| 04:27.20 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: optimus support is fairly poor in debian, you'll get the intel to work, can you configure your bios to use one or the other? Or do you need some tool to tell your bios which to use? |
| 04:28.15 | iggyZiggy | i have no idea what optimus is |
| 04:28.39 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: is the name for the laptops which have a dual intel/nvidia card (and switch betwen them depending on program) |
| 04:28.40 | iggyZiggy | and how come it's not using nvidia? |
| 04:29.26 | iggyZiggy | isn't nvidia better? |
| 04:29.45 | iggyZiggy | and to bios i go |
| 04:30.39 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: if you can get it to work. I have no experience with the hardware |
| 04:31.07 | iggyZiggy | can't setup anything you mentioned in bios |
| 04:31.56 | iggyZiggy | poor options |
| 04:33.03 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: install xserver-xorg-video-intel from jessie-backports. This will at least get you into X. You won't be using the nvidia card |
| 04:33.07 | somiaj | !bumblbee |
| 04:33.26 | somiaj | !bumblebee |
| 04:33.26 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 04:34.00 | somiaj | you may be able to get the nvidia card to work in some apps with bumblebee, though I am unsure on what you will need to do |
| 04:34.35 | somiaj | if all you want to do is use a desktop (no major need for 3-D acceleration) I would just use the skylake card and not mess with it. Or save that for a later date. At least get the intel card working is my suggestions |
| 04:34.45 | jmcnaught | the instructions on the Debian wiki look fairly simple, but the intel driver would need to be working first |
| 04:35.16 | tako | i still need help about LUKS how can i remove them or inject them a pass on startup |
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| 04:38.54 | jmcnaught | tako: look at "man crypttab" for how to specify the path to a keyfile with the password. you could put that file on /boot which is not encrypted on Debian |
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| 04:39.35 | jmcnaught | tako: or look at "man cryptsetup" and see the part about adding a key if you wanted to use your idea of adding a new password that is "1" or something like that. |
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| 04:40.25 | tako | looks so hard for me |
| 04:40.30 | iggyZiggy | can i add jessie-backport to sources list? |
| 04:41.00 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: yes |
| 04:41.05 | somiaj | !jessie-backports sources |
| 04:41.12 | somiaj | !jessie-backports |
| 04:41.12 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 04:43.07 | iggyZiggy | now i can apt-get install xserver-xorg... and it will be from backports? |
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| 04:44.46 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: to install frm backports you need to use "-t jessie-backports" with apt-get |
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| 04:45.53 | iggyZiggy | i got one hell of a linux lesson tonight |
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| 04:47.13 | iggyZiggy | so it's apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intelxserver-xorg-video-intel -t jessie-backports |
| 04:47.16 | iggyZiggy | right? |
| 04:47.39 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: put the -t ... before the package name |
| 04:47.39 | somiaj | unsure if the option can go at the end, so apt-get -t jesssie-backports install |
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| 04:49.10 | iggyZiggy | rebooting :D |
| 04:49.32 | iggyZiggy | woohooo! |
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| 04:50.38 | iggyZiggy | i love you guys |
| 04:51.07 | iggyZiggy | no rest for the wicked, now to bumblebee |
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| 04:52.18 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: read through the https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee page before you start |
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| 04:52.47 | iggyZiggy | just checked and got those 2 lines back |
| 04:53.27 | jmcnaught | which two lines? x and y? |
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| 04:54.29 | iggyZiggy | !bumblebee |
| 04:54.30 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:54.34 | iggyZiggy | those 2 lines |
| 04:54.46 | iggyZiggy | no idea what they are but they are there :D |
| 04:55.07 | jmcnaught | oh, lspci lists PCI devices. you have two, intel and nvidia. |
| 04:55.13 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: yea we already deteremined you had optimus from eariler. (: |
| 04:55.31 | iggyZiggy | sorry, i'm closing to 7 am now |
| 04:55.40 | iggyZiggy | didn't sleep at all |
| 04:55.47 | iggyZiggy | ok, next question |
| 04:55.49 | jmcnaught | you need to follow the instructions on the bumblebee wiki page. there's not a lot to do but i recommend reading them through before you start |
| 04:55.49 | iggyZiggy | requires contrib and non-free enabled in your sources.list |
| 04:56.04 | iggyZiggy | i just append this after main in sources.list? |
| 04:56.06 | jmcnaught | or get some rest and do this part later :) |
| 04:56.35 | jmcnaught | iggyZiggy: yes, put 'contrib non-free' after main |
| 04:56.50 | iggyZiggy | i'm not resting until i set my dev enivironment up :) |
| 04:57.06 | iggyZiggy | i'm getting a hang of this |
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| 05:04.10 | iggyZiggy | i don't think it worked, do i also need to specify -t jessie-backports? |
| 05:04.51 | jmcnaught | what was the command and output? |
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| 05:06.18 | iggyZiggy | sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bumblebee-nvidia primus primus-libs:i386 |
| 05:06.33 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: not unless it says you should. Though you can use apt-cache policy package name to see if there is a newer version available injessie-backports or not |
| 05:06.39 | iggyZiggy | got some missing indexes |
| 05:07.36 | iggyZiggy | also something very weird happened, my "mouse" buttons on touchpad got reversed/lost |
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| 05:07.56 | iggyZiggy | left button behaves like right click and i don't have left click |
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| 05:09.36 | iggyZiggy | i'm getting unable to locate package policy for bumblebee-nvidia primus |
| 05:11.01 | somiaj | ,v bumblebee-nvidia |
| 05:11.02 | judd | Package: bumblebee-nvidia on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-4~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 3.2.1-7; jessie-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-13~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 3.2.1-13; stretch/contrib: 3.2.1-13 |
| 05:11.41 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: do you have jessie sources and contrib and non-free enabled? |
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| 05:13.09 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: I know you were told to set this up, also run apt-get update after you make changes |
| 05:13.09 | iggyZiggy | somiaj: http://termbin.com/zpa1 |
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| 05:13.43 | somiaj | yea looks like you didn't apt-get update after making changes |
| 05:14.08 | iggyZiggy | i'm still getting some errors |
| 05:14.18 | iggyZiggy | some index files failed to download |
| 05:14.23 | somiaj | paste the command you typed and the errors you got |
| 05:14.43 | iggyZiggy | apt-get update |
| 05:14.59 | somiaj | put the whole output on a pastebin. |
| 05:16.21 | iggyZiggy | i can click :D |
| 05:17.02 | iggyZiggy | can't* |
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| 05:20.09 | iggyZiggy | ipossible, can't click to solve captcha imaes |
| 05:20.19 | somiaj | use paste.debian.net, no captcha |
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| 05:20.48 | somiaj | anyways, unsure what the issue with your mouse is. As for why apt-get update is failing, it could be httpredir.debian.org is pointing you to a mirror that is having trouble. You could try another mirror |
| 05:21.46 | iggyZiggy | paste.debian.net doesn't work |
| 05:22.05 | somiaj | what doesn't it do, it works here. |
| 05:22.21 | iggyZiggy | getting server not found |
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| 05:23.19 | iggyZiggy | ping on debian works, on paste.debian.org i get unkown host |
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| 05:24.36 | somiaj | sorry paste.debian.net |
| 05:24.39 | somiaj | not org |
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| 05:25.31 | iggyZiggy | paste.debian.net/770168/ |
| 05:26.38 | somiaj | iggyZiggy: your third line, deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free, in your sources.list needs to be jessie-updates (not jessie/updates |
| 05:26.50 | somiaj | didn't notice that eariler |
| 05:27.11 | somiaj | though that shouldn't have stopped you from frinding the packages you were looking for. |
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| 05:29.11 | iggyZiggy | well you were right and wrong |
| 05:29.18 | iggyZiggy | it did stop me |
| 05:29.36 | iggyZiggy | now it's downloading bumblebee |
| 05:30.44 | somiaj | I think not running apt-get update was the problem, the errors just came afterwards. |
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| 05:31.27 | iggyZiggy | well i did run aptitude update now |
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| 05:32.56 | somiaj | same thing |
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| 05:34.17 | iggyZiggy | dang |
| 05:34.31 | iggyZiggy | error: could not load gpu driver |
| 05:35.23 | iggyZiggy | found it! :D |
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| 05:51.37 | iggyZiggy | i can't keep my eyes open anymore |
| 05:51.58 | iggyZiggy | somiaj: thank you, love you, you're the best |
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| 06:02.59 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. My laptop's HD is failing and I just purchased a replacement drive that uses 4K sectors. (My old one used 512B sectors.) Can I use drive cloning software and still take advantage of the larger sector size or must I repartition and copy everything? |
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| 06:07.49 | somiaj | Pegasus_RPG: Any specific reason you want to clone as opposed to rsync. Only issue I can think of is resetting up the bootloader. |
| 06:08.01 | somiaj | Pegasus_RPG: you will have to update fstab with the new uuid's too |
| 06:08.13 | Pegasus_RPG | somiaj: Because I ahve Windows partitions on the drive as well as LUKS ones |
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| 06:10.18 | somiaj | Pegasus_RPG: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1887734/copy-clone-disk-utility-disks-sector-sizes.html -- seems to suggest that you can't do a direct clone. You may have to create an image and then recover from the image, that may allow you to use the larger sector size |
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| 06:11.57 | Pegasus_RPG | ugh... the LUKS partition will be a huge image |
| 06:12.02 | somiaj | Pegasus_RPG: http://superuser.com/questions/313133/how-to-clone-win7-from-512b-sectors-to-4096b-sectors -- seems to suggest you should do this at the file system level (not the partition level) |
| 06:13.14 | somiaj | so if you set up a new LUKS setup you may be able to clone the filesystem (as a full image) though you may have to just copy the files over, and deal with the windows partitions sepertally |
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| 06:15.44 | Pegasus_RPG | That's doable, thanks. |
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| 07:01.31 | namoamitabuddha | Question: how can I disable a service in start up? |
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| 07:02.01 | namoamitabuddha | I want to disable sshd |
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| 07:12.56 | somiaj | namoamitabuddha: I think it still works, but systemctl disable is what I use with systemd |
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| 07:25.26 | Pegasus_RPG | somiaj: okay, I found out my new HDD is 512e, so 4K physical, 512B logical |
| 07:25.45 | Pegasus_RPG | So as long as my existing partitions are 4K-aligned, cloning should work, right? |
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| 07:37.21 | Esya_ | Hey guys, seeing a weird shell problem, maybe someone has an idea. My shell is set to zsh on my two servers. If I log in to serv1, I get zsh. If I then ssh from serv1 to serv2, I also get zsh. But if I ssh from my laptop to serv2 through serv1 (my ssh config has a ProxyCommand for serv2, because it is inside a private network), I get bash instead of zsh |
| 07:37.26 | Esya_ | Does anyone have an idea? |
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| 08:33.17 | dagerik | im getting smartd errors: https://bpaste.net/show/fa34e7e7e243 |
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| 08:43.08 | twager | Anyone tell me if a Motorola phone will mount ok in Linux |
| 08:43.38 | XeonSquared | I have one and MTP works fine |
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| 08:43.50 | XeonSquared | Moto G3, jessie-updates |
| 08:44.33 | twager | Thanks for the info |
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| 09:08.02 | zootopia | hi hello, I got a strange problem which is when I try to install some pack, it said " error while loading shared libraries: libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0:no such file or directory", but I can find it, it's clearly in the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ directory, what's going on? |
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| 09:09.15 | zootopia | pls help guys |
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| 09:10.12 | daftest | nevermind, it's fixed... for now |
| 09:10.22 | daftest | came and went without cause. that's life |
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| 09:13.44 | zootopia | well, embarrassing, it's a 32 application while my system is a 64 version |
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| 09:42.53 | Eremiell | hi, I seem to be redirected here from #debian-next, is this now an appropriate channel to ask testing questions? |
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| 09:43.16 | MaBunny | no Eremiell |
| 09:43.41 | count | .o( it isn't?!? ) |
| 09:44.01 | Eremiell | when I try to join #debian-next I apparently end up here |
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| 09:44.40 | MaBunny | idk....but i heard this question here b4 |
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| 09:44.55 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 09:44.55 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 09:44.56 | MaBunny | and this time is not quite the busy here so |
| 09:45.07 | petn-randall | Eremiell: ^^^^^ |
| 09:45.13 | MaBunny | yes |
| 09:45.17 | Eremiell | oh, OFTC, right, thanks |
| 09:45.28 | petn-randall | Eremiell: You're welcome, see you there. |
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| 10:02.25 | Iridos | hm, maybe this IS something to ask... |
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| 10:03.19 | Iridos | I ran aptitude -f install and get a huge list of things it wants to doo (most of which are "do nothing", but if I go one step further, it wants to remove 500 packages) |
| 10:03.29 | Iridos | on the other hand, apt-get -f install is fully content |
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| 10:04.18 | Iridos | looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/770734/ |
| 10:04.24 | Doo | i rly like my nickname |
| 10:04.34 | Doo | it permits me to pop in some conversations like this one |
| 10:04.39 | Iridos | heh |
| 10:04.43 | Doo | ;) |
| 10:04.44 | Iridos | doo as you like |
| 10:04.50 | Doo | i'll doo as i please |
| 10:05.00 | Doo | and i'll doo as i am |
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| 10:05.12 | Iridos | I think we're doone with that, though |
| 10:05.34 | Doo | i doo too but doo you think that it'll be over for a long time? |
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| 10:15.08 | CtrlC | How do you use dnscrypt-proxy in jessie? |
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| 10:29.49 | Iridos | oh, maybe I got it... the problem is that aptitude has no supercow powers |
| 10:30.00 | asdfew | Please tell me the right format for a 8gb usb stick. I wanted to format it to exfat but somehow it doesn't work "command not found". |
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| 10:31.21 | Iridos | you maybe want to say what command (-line) gives you "command not found" |
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| 10:32.39 | Iridos | hm... maybe it's some pending installs that make aptitude act up... is there a way to see pending actions? |
| 10:32.58 | asdfew | mkfs.exfat |
| 10:33.27 | MaBunny | probably mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdX should work |
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| 10:34.31 | asdfew | Is a vfat system not better for a usb? |
| 10:34.56 | unborn | fat32 |
| 10:34.58 | MaBunny | yes but you cannot run linux executasbles in vfat system |
| 10:34.59 | Iridos | oh, there's "aptitude keep-all" ... and that removed all pending stuff and fixed aptitude \o/ |
| 10:35.00 | unborn | i think |
| 10:35.33 | MaBunny | but you can exchange data btween wingdos n linux in vfat system |
| 10:35.44 | Iridos | asdfew, depends what you want to do with it? |
| 10:36.21 | Iridos | asdfew, let us introduce you to the magic of tab completion... mkfs.[tab][tab] |
| 10:36.32 | MaBunny | lool |
| 10:36.45 | Iridos | not funny |
| 10:36.50 | asdfew | Just play music in a music box. Now usb stick is formatted to fat32, but fat 32 only supports 4gb |
| 10:37.06 | MaBunny | no |
| 10:37.16 | asdfew | more than 4gb? |
| 10:37.22 | MaBunny | i hav a 1TB vfat ext harddisk |
| 10:37.33 | Iridos | there's different types of fat |
| 10:38.08 | MaBunny | asdfew if you want to install linux on tht usb then use ext4 |
| 10:38.30 | asdfew | yes, I know for linux usb stick I always use ext4 |
| 10:39.00 | Iridos | the command is mkfs.vfat for fat filesystems |
| 10:39.08 | TomTomTosch | but he just wants to "Just play music in a music box" depending on what music box it is, it might need something fat. |
| 10:39.23 | Iridos | because the music might be fatboy slim |
| 10:39.32 | asdfew | But, does fat32 for usb stick supports more than 4gb |
| 10:40.09 | trewas | fat32 maximum file size is 4GB, but partition can be much larger |
| 10:40.19 | MaBunny | should.... |
| 10:40.23 | MaBunny | ^^ |
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| 10:40.38 | asdfew | a okay, one single file size is 4gb, now I understand |
| 10:40.49 | asdfew | *maximum 4gb |
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| 10:41.52 | Iridos | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT32 --> Max. volume size 2 TB (with 512 byte sectors) |
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| 10:42.06 | Iridos | isn't it amazing what mrs google can tell you |
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| 10:42.34 | asdfew | I didn't understand the maximum file size |
| 10:42.47 | MaBunny | we should make a bot tht replies in mrs google words to the common ppls questions |
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| 10:42.49 | brimonk | Hey, does anyone know how to put 'xset' commands within a config file? I'm trying to reconfigure my terminal, and it seems to get set back to defaults. |
| 10:43.01 | brimonk | defaults on an xrdb ~/.Xresources |
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| 10:48.12 | linuxterrorist | #linuxlover |
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| 10:54.01 | hrob | hi |
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| 10:54.25 | hrob | I would like to add a custom init script |
| 10:56.30 | akis | hi all. i am considering to switch from xubuntu 16.04 to debian 8.5 xfce-desktop (amd64). does debian provide a full encryption disk during installation? |
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| 10:56.56 | TomTomTosch | akis: sure. the installer walks you through it. |
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| 10:58.42 | akis | TomTomTosch: thanks, and a /home encryption too? |
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| 10:59.12 | TomTomTosch | yes, would be rather lame if it didn't ;D |
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| 11:01.51 | akis | TomTomTosch: which is the recommended software manager application for debian? synaptic? |
| 11:02.08 | jelly | aptitude ? |
| 11:03.09 | MaBunny | depends if you prefer the terminal or GUI |
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| 11:05.50 | akis | MaBunny: are you talking to me? i can use both, but i am asking for GUI recommended package manager. |
| 11:06.11 | MaBunny | synaptic then |
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| 11:09.24 | akis | MaBunny: ok, thanks. does this iso http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso provides any basci application (like thunar etc) or it is a plain editon and after installation there is the option to any application's installation? |
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| 11:10.47 | MaBunny | akis: i think all debian isos give an option to download which GUI you wish to install |
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| 11:11.24 | MaBunny | and you will get synaptic as your first app downloader choice bsides apt |
| 11:12.00 | MaBunny | you will be able to download any other app manager if its provided in the repos |
| 11:12.47 | akis | MaBunny: thanks for advises. debian 8,5 for how long is it supported it? |
| 11:13.08 | MaBunny | 2020 |
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| 11:13.22 | MaBunny | Jessie is supprted till then iirc |
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| 11:14.42 | MaBunny | akis: personal advice....try to learn the terminal...it will open a whole new window |
| 11:14.55 | TomTomTosch | you will probably want to upgrade to the next stable before may 2018 though. that's when jessie goes into lts and gets less security support. |
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| 11:15.30 | akis | MaBunny: so, till 2020 will provide security updates for the core and xfce enviroment too? |
| 11:15.41 | MaBunny | ^^ |
| 11:16.10 | MaBunny | akis: im just a novice now...ask the exp players here about sec |
| 11:16.35 | akis | MaBunny: its ok. |
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| 11:19.44 | tuppabox | hey |
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| 11:20.37 | tuppabox | i got a weird problem with samba |
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| 11:21.17 | tuppabox | it just worked fine, but now it doesnt work anymore |
| 11:21.25 | x4u3n | Hello, i have a problem with perfomance: http://dpaste.com/2SY8ARW |
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| 11:21.42 | tuppabox | i configured it with gadmin-samba |
| 11:22.08 | tuppabox | i didtnt really change anything, i also resetted smb.conf |
| 11:22.14 | tuppabox | but still doesnt work |
| 11:22.24 | tuppabox | someone any idea? |
| 11:22.59 | dadabong_ | is lightdm-greeter the lock screen for my system? im using lxde for my environment and when i run the lxlock command bash recognizes it but nothing happens. ive looked at the lx lock script and it tries to call a bunch of third party locks but none of them work apparently and im trying to find the actual lock |
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| 11:23.33 | bashman | tuppabox: what is the problem ? can you give us some error information |
| 11:24.09 | tuppabox | where could i find some error information? |
| 11:24.32 | tuppabox | when i use dolphin and search for samba shares |
| 11:24.33 | bashman | tuppabox: If you say it is not working ... what is the expected behaviour and what is happning ... such sort of information |
| 11:24.55 | tuppabox | it says it couldnt find anything...blabla...maybe its the firewall |
| 11:25.46 | bashman | can you try smbclient -L //<workgroupname> |
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| 11:26.58 | bashman | tuppabox: If you know there exists a system in this domain, you can try smbclient -L //<machine-name> . This must get back to you with the list of shares. There you can see if there are any issues |
| 11:27.15 | tuppabox | ah ok |
| 11:27.33 | tuppabox | but i think ive to install smbclient first because it cant find the command... |
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| 11:28.26 | bashman | tuppabox: May be that will fix the browsing issue |
| 11:29.02 | tuppabox | but i cant remember that i uninstalled it |
| 11:29.26 | tuppabox | hmm or yes........... strange |
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| 11:30.12 | Iridos | x4u3n, what is the problem with performance |
| 11:30.43 | x4u3n | Iridos, i don't understand why load average is near 4 with only 2 processors. |
| 11:30.59 | x4u3n | and why i have 99.1 - - S 13-20:47:13 [migration/0] |
| 11:31.00 | tuppabox | and sometimes it takes hours for downloading something.... now 0.3 mb....probably 10 min....my connection can 8mb/s |
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| 11:31.01 | x4u3n | in 99% |
| 11:31.10 | x4u3n | sorry my english :P |
| 11:31.34 | Iridos | x4u3n, load is a bit weird. in short: it is the sum of all processes running and all processes waiting to run |
| 11:32.12 | x4u3n | ok, but for 2 processors average like maximum limit will be 2? |
| 11:32.18 | Iridos | no |
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| 11:32.27 | Iridos | any amount of processes can be waiting to run |
| 11:32.28 | x4u3n | 100% = 2 = 2 cores |
| 11:32.33 | x4u3n | oks |
| 11:32.41 | x4u3n | then 100% = 2 cores = 4 average is normal :P |
| 11:32.43 | Iridos | you can easily have a load of 100 if things go wrong |
| 11:33.03 | Iridos | and... 0.8 - 0 D 02:51:07 [kswapd0] |
| 11:33.03 | x4u3n | ok |
| 11:33.09 | sypher | x4u3n: Load average isn't capped. I've seen a quad core system hit a load average of 400 due to runaway processes and storage issues. |
| 11:33.42 | Iridos | are things actually slow on the system or not? |
| 11:34.04 | sypher | x4u3n: It's better used as a way to tell if the system is being overloaded. If your load average is higher than the number of CPUs reported in /proc/cpuinfo, then you're likely overtaxing the system in some way. |
| 11:34.06 | x4u3n | Iridos, not really, only mysqld that consume 75% cpu normally, .... |
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| 11:34.26 | Iridos | processes in "D" state count towards load, even if they don't really do anything and are in D permanently |
| 11:34.35 | Iridos | (processes in R obviously also count) |
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| 11:34.59 | x4u3n | Iridos: im ikely overtaxing the system in some way then :P |
| 11:35.04 | x4u3n | Sorry sypher :P |
| 11:35.21 | Iridos | if nothing seems slow, I would say there is no problem |
| 11:35.21 | ChrisH | high load must not be a bad thing but can be... depends |
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| 11:35.37 | x4u3n | Iridos and why consume with sleeped process? |
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| 11:36.16 | x4u3n | i have only 1 process runnining, the others sleeped |
| 11:36.26 | tuppabox | bashman, Connection to Workgroup failed (Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL) |
| 11:36.39 | Cueball | Hi everyone. I'm having a little trouble with udev rules. I have a file /etc/udev/rules.d/80-energenie.rules which at currently matching vendor and product id and setting it to mode 0666. However it seems to be ignored by udev. Anything I could be missing? |
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| 11:37.33 | tuppabox | bashman, http://pastebin.com/Tj7p9y1i |
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| 11:37.44 | Cueball | ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b4", ATTRS{idProduct}=="fd13", MODE="0666" |
| 11:37.52 | x4u3n | ChrisH, sypher and Iridos thank u for you help. |
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| 11:38.27 | Cueball | That is current contents. Tried with ATTR rather than ATTRS and also with UBSYSTEM=="usb" on there too. |
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| 11:38.50 | MadHatter42 | is the load on moder unix systems agregated ? |
| 11:38.56 | MadHatter42 | modern* |
| 11:39.10 | MadHatter42 | as in if i have like 8 cores and a load of 3 |
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| 11:39.28 | MadHatter42 | does that mean i'm overworked or underworked ? |
| 11:39.57 | Iridos | depends? |
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| 11:39.58 | MadHatter42 | anyone ? |
| 11:40.07 | Rollozuh | MadHatter42: you are a lot underworked :) |
| 11:40.12 | Iridos | I tried to explain that load isn't so straight-forward a bit before |
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| 11:40.32 | MadHatter42 | care to elaborate |
| 11:40.34 | MadHatter42 | ? |
| 11:40.54 | sypher | Load isn't just a matter of CPU time. If I have processes sitting in a wait state because storage is overloaded, that'll still drive my load average up. |
| 11:40.54 | MadHatter42 | so a load of 8 would be ok ? |
| 11:41.17 | Iridos | load of 3 means that at least 5 cores aren't busy |
| 11:41.44 | Iridos | but load of 10 still doesn't necessesarily mean that all cores are busy |
| 11:41.45 | Rollozuh | MadHatter42: see here for a better explanation and also for an example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29#Unix-style_load_calculation |
| 11:42.06 | Iridos | there was a nice article explaining load somewhere |
| 11:42.11 | x4u3n | Iridos exactly. |
| 11:42.14 | Iridos | wonder if it's in the factoid |
| 11:42.15 | Iridos | dpkg, load |
| 11:42.15 | dpkg | PRESS PLAY ON TAPE |
| 11:42.18 | Iridos | :/ |
| 11:42.56 | sypher | lol |
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| 11:46.47 | Iridos | maybe the wiki article really isn't the worst... I remember reading something better which explained some more obscure aspects of the load... but... not useful when I cannot find it |
| 11:46.59 | Iridos | dpkg, no, load is <reply> The load shown by uptime is the sum of the number processes running and queued to run. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29 |
| 11:47.00 | dpkg | Iridos: okay |
| 11:47.03 | Iridos | dpkg, load |
| 11:47.04 | dpkg | The load shown by uptime is the sum of the number processes running and queued to run. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29 |
| 11:48.11 | bashman | tuppabox: There is something wrong with the /etc/samba/smb.conf file... may be the utility has clobbered it |
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| 11:49.06 | bashman | tuppabox: Also you can try smbclient -L //Workgroup -U <your domain>/<username> |
| 11:49.31 | bashman | tuppabox: see if there is a backup of smb.conf and try to use that instead. |
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| 12:38.50 | jubo2 | I 'wget https://nodejs.org/dist/v4.4.7/node-v4.4.7-linux-x64.tar.xz' |
| 12:38.59 | jubo2 | How do I extract from an .xz ? |
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| 12:39.10 | jubo2 | all I know is .tar.gz |
| 12:39.20 | hassoon | jubo2: what ar eyou up to |
| 12:39.24 | jubo2 | that one is easy .. 'tar cvzf filename.tar.gz' |
| 12:39.25 | hassoon | *are you * |
| 12:39.32 | jubo2 | hassoon: Installing etherpad on one of my servers |
| 12:39.44 | hassoon | jubo2: you got what kind of files |
| 12:40.02 | jubo2 | I have.. I have a .tar.xz |
| 12:40.15 | unborn | jubo2: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+extract+from+an+.xz+%3F |
| 12:40.23 | jubo2 | okays unborn |
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| 12:42.48 | jubo2 | yep.. 'tar xvf' works just fine it autodetects the compression being used |
| 12:43.05 | Iridos | jubo2, tar -xf blub.xz |
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| 12:43.33 | MisterGadfly | Don't you hate it when your PC swaps. I wonder how the hell some apps can run decently when swapped. |
| 12:43.47 | Iridos | tar autodetects packing type since 10 years ago... or so I heard |
| 12:44.07 | Iridos | oh. seems I was slow |
| 12:44.33 | Iridos | ECOFFEELACK |
| 12:44.52 | jubo2 | .coffee Iridos |
| 12:44.57 | Iridos | ECHAN |
| 12:45.06 | jubo2 | NO COFFEEBOT? |
| 12:45.12 | dadabong_ | what command is being run when you use the keyboard shortcut for locking the screen? i cant find anything on google other than what the shortcut actually is |
| 12:45.17 | Iridos | no, you want #debian-offtopic for that |
| 12:46.12 | Iridos | dadabong_, might not be a command... processes can talk via dbus and whatnot directly |
| 12:46.25 | Iridos | but you're probably looking for something like xscreensaver-cmd -l |
| 12:46.36 | Iridos | s/cmd/command/ |
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| 12:49.42 | iggyZiggy | hello, i'm having touchpad issues, anyone in the mood to help me out? |
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| 12:50.35 | dadabong_ | Iridos, is there a way to locate specifically where my lock program is at? ive tried looking for that one, gnome-screensaver, i3lock, slock, xlock, lightdm... cant find anything anywhere in my file system. if i search lock itll give me a bunch of clock programs |
| 12:50.40 | hassoon | jubo2: whenever you want to how to extract a given archive but you forgot which are the right options for a given archive's format, do man tar|grep <archive_format>; and grep will give you the right options to use with tar; is that any helpful ?p |
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| 12:52.22 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: well what is the problem |
| 12:52.51 | hassoon | other than the fact that there is one |
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| 12:53.49 | iggyZiggy | buttons are not mapped correctly, i'm getting right click for left click |
| 12:54.02 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: what os your DE |
| 12:54.04 | hassoon | what is * |
| 12:54.15 | iggyZiggy | gnome |
| 12:54.33 | iggyZiggy | i switch it in settings |
| 12:54.44 | iggyZiggy | and now enabled tapbuttons |
| 12:55.04 | iggyZiggy | but on tap is also right click instead of left click |
| 12:55.35 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: there must be some option to set that |
| 12:55.59 | iggyZiggy | i'm trying with synclient option=value |
| 12:56.35 | hassoon | nah i mean the GUI settings, i have it in my kde touchpad settings, and so you |
| 12:56.45 | hassoon | * do you |
| 12:56.55 | jubo2 | hassoon: That is a very good note on how to properly do piping |
| 12:57.33 | hassoon | jubo2: you found that useful didn't you? :v |
| 12:57.51 | iggyZiggy | in mouse&touchpad setting i have only few options |
| 12:58.24 | jubo2 | hassoon: Yeah.. I never knew I can pipe man output |
| 12:58.30 | hassoon | jubo2: sure you can |
| 12:58.34 | jubo2 | Now I knows |
| 12:58.43 | hassoon | karimb: bien pour toi |
| 12:58.52 | jubo2 | My mum surprises me |
| 12:59.29 | hassoon | jubo2: imma fill your mouth with tens of grams of cheese, nab. |
| 12:59.31 | hassoon | :D |
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| 13:00.10 | jubo2 | After using a mac as her primary means of computations since 5-6 yrs she was like "Oh I didn't know you could do that!" when I instructed her to ctrl-click on the thingy to achieve what she wanted to achieve |
| 13:00.51 | jubo2 | That happened this summer |
| 13:01.03 | iggyZiggy | ok, fixed tap click by setting synclient TapButton1=3 and TapButton3=1 |
| 13:01.09 | jubo2 | I don't know how she managed to use a Mac for all that time and not know about it |
| 13:01.19 | jubo2 | upside: she cooks good |
| 13:01.20 | iggyZiggy | but phsical right button is still middle click |
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| 13:02.28 | ToHellWithGA | my root partition, at the size Debian automatically chose when partitioning, is full. nearly half of the space is used by /var/log/messages and /var/log/user.log |
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| 13:02.43 | ToHellWithGA | is it okay to delete those two files? |
| 13:03.39 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: try this package kde-config-touchpad |
| 13:03.53 | hassoon | !dpkg kde-config-touchpad |
| 13:04.03 | nkuttler | ToHellWithGA: sounds like you should install logrotate |
| 13:04.04 | hassoon | !dpkg package kde-config-touchpad |
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| 13:04.11 | nkuttler | ToHellWithGA: how old are the entries at the top? |
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| 13:05.28 | iggyZiggy | installing |
| 13:07.41 | iggyZiggy | hassoon how do i run it? |
| 13:08.25 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: in your prgrams menu, type touchpad, and you'll see a configuration pragram for touchpads, i guess |
| 13:08.48 | Iridos | dada.. |
| 13:08.58 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: howdy. |
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| 13:09.03 | iggyZiggy | i have the old mouse&touchpad only |
| 13:09.08 | hassoon | Iridos: howdy |
| 13:09.22 | hassoon | iggyZiggy: what you mean by old |
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| 13:09.46 | iggyZiggy | the default one with just a few options |
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| 13:19.04 | Iridos | hassoon, that actually was an unsuccessfull attempt to address dadabong_, who left on us :P |
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| 13:37.24 | iggyZiggy | any idea how i can remap touchpad buttons? |
| 13:37.51 | iggyZiggy | tried with xinput but it doesn't work |
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| 13:41.54 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, libinput? |
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| 13:42.45 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, not run with xinput set-button-map device? |
| 13:42.49 | sauna | If I am LDAP user, how can I get the LDAP structure ( groups, users, etc) ? |
| 13:44.05 | x4u3n | sauna search in pam.d |
| 13:44.14 | x4u3n | something auth... |
| 13:45.14 | sauna | only thing is common-auth, and it has only some conf options |
| 13:45.19 | iggyZiggy | i've tried with xinput but didn't work |
| 13:45.36 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, use gnome? |
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| 13:46.58 | iggyZiggy | i'm using gnome |
| 13:47.02 | x4u3n | sauna, try /etc/{shadow, passwd, groups} |
| 13:47.13 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, let me, i know some problems with it |
| 13:47.43 | iggyZiggy | ideally i would like to have right key mapping in other de too |
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| 13:49.11 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, check log: /var/log/auth.log |
| 13:49.33 | sauna | x4u3n, I have account on LDAP(provided by admins, on vacation), it is not in local pc (tthere is nothing in local machine). There are hundred 100+ users in LDAP |
| 13:49.58 | sauna | somebody said that this LDAP structure is public info, but didn't know how to access. I don't know how to get it either |
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| 13:50.48 | x4u3n | sauna is "passwd" in nsswitch.conf using "files" keyword before ldap? |
| 13:50.55 | iggyZiggy | ok, what am i searching for there? |
| 13:51.09 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, im searching :P |
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| 13:51.39 | jelly | sauna: "getent passwd", "getent group" |
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| 13:52.15 | jelly | assuming nss is set up |
| 13:53.25 | x4u3n | iggyZiggy, like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14983807/ldap-login-works-via-terminal-but-doesnt-work-via-gui |
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| 13:53.40 | x4u3n | jelly thank u :P |
| 13:53.44 | jelly | sauna: or fire up a ldap browser gui of some sort |
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| 13:54.23 | sauna | I don't know the browser gui url of ldap |
| 13:54.43 | iggyZiggy | i don't think i'm the droid you're looking for |
| 13:54.43 | x4u3n | check network config |
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| 14:07.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | so to set up an ldap client i need to understand /etc/pam.d/common-* ? |
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| 14:14.43 | TehRabbitt | so i'm completely stumped. |
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| 14:14.48 | TehRabbitt | apache was working yesterday. |
| 14:15.06 | TehRabbitt | today I try to restart apache and the ONLY thing that gets logged as an error is the following: apache2.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 |
| 14:15.13 | TehRabbitt | nothing else. |
| 14:15.16 | TehRabbitt | no syntax errors etc |
| 14:15.23 | NoImNotNineVolt | try starting it from the command line yourself. |
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| 14:15.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | though i don't see why that would give you any more verbose of output :P |
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| 14:16.25 | TehRabbitt | ah nice. |
| 14:16.26 | TehRabbitt | AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: |
| 14:16.26 | TehRabbitt | Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} |
| 14:16.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | ah, this is debian, so i'm guessing you'd be using apachectl or something |
| 14:16.32 | TehRabbitt | no idea how the hell that changed. |
| 14:16.35 | NoImNotNineVolt | there you go. |
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| 14:17.36 | TehRabbitt | NoImNotNineVolt, nothing changed though, I mean shouldn't those directories be defaults? |
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| 14:20.40 | TehRabbitt | i've been using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 14:20.42 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have no idea. |
| 14:20.48 | TehRabbitt | yeah :\ neither do I |
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| 14:21.07 | NoImNotNineVolt | does apache.conf evaluate env vars? |
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| 14:21.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | (this sounds like an apache httpd question more than a debian question, though) |
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| 14:21.45 | TehRabbitt | NoImNotNineVolt, nope, the config is clean / no syntax errors |
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| 14:21.58 | TehRabbitt | hence why I think it's something else causing it... nothing in syslog either |
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| 14:22.11 | NoImNotNineVolt | 10:16 < TehRabbitt> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: |
| 14:22.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | emphasis on "Syntax error" :P |
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| 14:23.11 | TehRabbitt | Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default |
| 14:23.20 | TehRabbitt | which is the default |
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| 14:24.53 | NoImNotNineVolt | that doesn't look like typical apache2.conf syntax, but i'll take your word for it. |
| 14:25.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | regardless of whether or not it is the default, though, it seems to be a syntax error. |
| 14:25.24 | TehRabbitt | i think i might have figured it out. |
| 14:25.32 | TehRabbitt | hm. |
| 14:25.38 | TehRabbitt | now to figure out who changed it -_- |
| 14:25.53 | TehRabbitt | www root was changed to something other than /var/www/html |
| 14:25.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | now, to figure out how to get my ldap working... :P |
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| 14:26.04 | TehRabbitt | oh geez... what are you trying to do with ldap |
| 14:26.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have a debian box... |
| 14:26.24 | NoImNotNineVolt | and i have a windows activedirectory server |
| 14:26.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | (i know nothing about ldap) |
| 14:26.52 | NoImNotNineVolt | i want to be able to log into the debian box using credentials checked against the windows AD server |
| 14:27.02 | TehRabbitt | Ahh. |
| 14:27.13 | NoImNotNineVolt | so i installed libpam-ldap |
| 14:27.15 | TehRabbitt | I did this a long time ago |
| 14:27.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | pointed it at the AD server... |
| 14:27.22 | TehRabbitt | yeah there's something with libpam you have to do. |
| 14:27.44 | NoImNotNineVolt | but when i try to connect, i see in my auth.log: pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server |
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| 14:27.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | which is a rather useless error message. |
| 14:28.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | i can ping the LDAP server. i can establish an rdp session to it. doesn't seem to be a firewall issue. |
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| 14:28.50 | TehRabbitt | hmm |
| 14:28.59 | TehRabbitt | IIRC, AD doesn't use standard LDAP and that's why |
| 14:29.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | it does, though. |
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| 14:29.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | or, it can, at least. |
| 14:29.17 | TehRabbitt | NoImNotNineVolt, https://wiki.debian.org/AuthenticatingLinuxWithActiveDirectory |
| 14:29.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | yay |
| 14:29.25 | NoImNotNineVolt | thanks |
| 14:29.28 | TehRabbitt | np :P |
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| 14:29.33 | TehRabbitt | that's what I used the last time I did it |
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| 14:43.55 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 14:44.38 | tobiasBora | I would like to know what is the simple way to configure my (futur) dhcp server (isc ?) with an (open) ldap server. |
| 14:45.02 | tobiasBora | I saw some tutorial on the internet but they are more than one years old and may be outdated |
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| 14:45.24 | greycat | You think LDAP and DHCP change on a year to year basis? |
| 14:45.38 | tobiasBora | (for exemple some of them want me to apply a patch, but I think that this patch is already present in isc) |
| 14:45.59 | tobiasBora | greycat: Well this patch seems to be pretty recent, so maybe yes... |
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| 14:48.37 | psycose | using a Debian 7 (with root partition on a SSD disk and LVM), after a power cut, and booting again i got the message "ALERT ! /dev/mapper/xxxxx does not exist". any tips about solving this issue ? |
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| 14:52.43 | x4u3n | psycose, i fail something similar, if i remember properly i solve it with vgchange group :P |
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| 14:55.00 | psycose | thanks x4u3n I will read about it |
| 14:55.21 | x4u3n | welcome |
| 14:55.33 | ChemTom | what's in your mapper directory? |
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| 15:00.19 | iggyZiggy_ | can i change touchpad driver and how? it's not working correctly and i don't know what to do |
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| 15:01.47 | psycose | ChemTom, i don't know as i land in a busybox (initramfs) shell as I get "Gave up waiting for root device" |
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| 15:13.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | so that debian+activedirectory tutorial isn't working for me either. |
| 15:13.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | failing at the kerberos step. |
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| 15:14.09 | jelly | !tutorials |
| 15:14.10 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
| 15:14.13 | jelly | hides |
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| 15:15.20 | NoImNotNineVolt | sighs |
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| 15:15.43 | NoImNotNineVolt | i was really, really hoping i wouldn't have to learn about microsoft activedirectory to pull this off. |
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| 15:16.03 | NoImNotNineVolt | i'm getting frighteningly close to sysadmin territory :P |
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| 15:16.35 | freehck | Hello people. |
| 15:16.40 | sharkman | i just did apt-get install expect, but when i run a script trying to use it it crashes, /usr/bin/expect: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 15:16.44 | jelly | NoImNotNineVolt: we usually just do ldap auth instead, works for separate services and apache vhosts |
| 15:17.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | isn't that what the same thing? |
| 15:17.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | s/what// |
| 15:17.06 | sharkman | what am i doing wrong? do i need to move expect from some hidden location to /usr/bin/expect ? |
| 15:17.11 | freehck | Could somebody answer how long does it usually takes to get a response from request@bugs.debian.org? |
| 15:17.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | isn't AD an ldap server implementation? |
| 15:17.31 | greycat | sharkman: Either your shebang line has a Carriage Return on it, or you've got multiple versions of Tcl installed, one of them in /usr/local, which is bad. |
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| 15:17.52 | jelly | NoImNotNineVolt: that's why it works. |
| 15:19.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | so, doesn't it work by using kerberos under the hood? |
| 15:19.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | i don't get it. |
| 15:19.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | so, i was given the hostname of the activedirectory server to auth against. do i need more information than just that? |
| 15:19.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | kerberos realm, etc? |
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| 15:20.42 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have no idea what a 'realm' is, and i was hoping i wouldn't have to for this to work :P |
| 15:21.05 | greycat | My general inkling is that a "realm" is like an NIS domain. But I could be totally wrong. |
| 15:21.10 | greycat | I don't do Kerberos, and I don't do LDAp. |
| 15:21.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | jealous. |
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| 15:21.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | i also have no idea what a NIS domain is. |
| 15:21.33 | jelly | NoImNotNineVolt: if you're doing ldap auth, you need: ldap server; base dn; a bind dn (user and password to initially bind as, to be able to make queries) |
| 15:21.35 | NoImNotNineVolt | this will be a fun task :P |
| 15:22.01 | greycat | jelly: I believe his question is "How do I authenticate from a Debian process against a Microsoft server" |
| 15:22.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | not really. |
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| 15:22.23 | jelly | greycat: that's what I gathered from pam_ldap being mentioned |
| 15:22.25 | NoImNotNineVolt | how do i accept logins from people using the same credentials they set up on this activedirectory server. |
| 15:22.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | on my debian box. |
| 15:22.37 | jelly | NoImNotNineVolt: logins to what? |
| 15:22.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | the debian system itself. |
| 15:22.47 | jelly | their login shell? |
| 15:22.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | sure. |
| 15:23.03 | jelly | you will need more than just auth then, you will also need nss |
| 15:23.09 | NoImNotNineVolt | there's some web stuff running too, and it accepts any valid local credentials |
| 15:23.23 | NoImNotNineVolt | but i don't want to create user accounts for everyone that's supposed to use it, as they have AD accounts already |
| 15:23.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | i was hoping i could just point this debian box at the AD server so that AD accounts "just work" on the debian box. |
| 15:23.48 | jelly | web stuff, and specific PAM-enabled services, are easier to deal with than shell users. |
| 15:24.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have no idea how the web stuff works either (i'm very, very new to auth), beyond the fact that it's [system] group based. |
| 15:25.08 | jelly | you're in for a world of pain, then :-) |
| 15:25.18 | NoImNotNineVolt | i.e. i create a local account foo, i add it to group web_ui_admin, they can then log in to the web ui and have access to the admin panel... |
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| 15:25.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | so what i want to do is have any accounts that auth against the AD server to automagically be in one specific group... |
| 15:26.02 | NoImNotNineVolt | and then everything should work. |
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| 15:26.34 | NoImNotNineVolt | but i'm starting to feel this world of pain already :\ |
| 15:26.35 | jelly | then you're going to need nss (resolving of users and uids and groups and gids) from ldap (ad) |
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| 15:27.07 | jelly | I've never set that up so can't comment. |
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| 15:27.27 | NoImNotNineVolt | starts reading |
| 15:27.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | thanks :) |
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| 15:29.23 | NoImNotNineVolt | presumably there's a way to get a lot of these settings from the AD server itself? i have rdp access to it, but i'm not a windows guy and have no idea how to do anything with AD... |
| 15:29.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | i guess that's a good place to start, though? |
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| 15:32.36 | sharkman | hm i guess i have more than one version of Tcl installed, but i dont remember installed Tcl or even know what it is is |
| 15:33.05 | greycat | Then why do you "guess" you have multiple installations of it? |
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| 15:34.08 | greycat | What does the first line (the shebang) of your script say? |
| 15:35.49 | sharkman | #!/usr/bin/expect -f |
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| 15:36.08 | sharkman | i dont think there is a carriage return on that line |
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| 15:36.31 | greycat | well, the -f would suck up the CR even if there were... |
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| 15:38.07 | greycat | tests with a very short script, and it works for me... |
| 15:38.15 | sharkman | based on dpkg --ist i have tcl installed, tcl8.5 and tcl8.6 |
| 15:38.22 | sharkman | *dpkg --list |
| 15:38.50 | greycat | adding a ^M to the shebang line after the -f gives ``": no such file or directory'' which is not what you got, so that's not it |
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| 15:39.20 | sharkman | it looks like your other guess was right that i have different versions of TCL installed |
| 15:39.36 | greycat | multiple *debian* versions of tcl shouldn't even be a problem either... |
| 15:39.59 | sharkman | i have libtc8.5:amd64, lbtcl8.6:md64, tcl, tcl8.5, tcl8.6 |
| 15:40.01 | greycat | tries installing tcl8.5 |
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| 15:40.39 | greycat | No, that does not break it. |
| 15:41.05 | greycat | Do you have /usr/local/lib/*tcl* ? |
| 15:41.11 | sharkman | my original guess is that when i did apt-get install expect it got installed somewhere that wasnt accessible by "/usr/bin/expect" |
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| 15:41.45 | greycat | ls -ld /usr/bin/expect |
| 15:41.52 | sharkman | no, i dont see anything tcl in /usr/local/lib |
| 15:42.54 | sharkman | oh im sorry i found the problem |
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| 15:43.36 | sharkman | when i installed it said it was missing dependencies ad to run "apt-get install -f" so i ran that and assumed it installed expect. but i guess that installed all the dependencies but not expect itself |
| 15:44.02 | sharkman | i just looked for the /usr/bin/expect folder as you said and it didnt exist, so i realized what happened... |
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| 15:45.18 | greycat | (/usr/bin/expect is a program, not a directory) |
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| 15:48.27 | sharkman | yes good point |
| 15:48.30 | ToHellWithGA | nkuttler: entries at the tail or head of the thing? |
| 15:48.35 | sharkman | yeah i nstalled it, i see the program, its owrking now, thank you |
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| 15:48.42 | ToHellWithGA | had to run to a job site, just got back to the computer |
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| 15:52.59 | ToHellWithGA | the oldest are from the 19th, the newest from the 29th (today local time) |
| 15:53.28 | ToHellWithGA | almost all of them are from gnome-session |
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| 15:54.36 | ToHellWithGA | 22 million log lines include "gnome-session". that's absurd. i can't read that many lines. |
| 15:55.40 | x4u3n | xD |
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| 15:58.03 | ToHellWithGA | is that logrotate job able to cut the logs off at a fixed length? |
| 15:58.29 | ToHellWithGA | if i were a real sysadmin maybe i'd give a crap about logs, but i only use logs to troubleshoot once in a blue moon. |
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| 16:04.52 | x4u3n | ToHellWithGA, do a prerotate script |
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| 16:06.43 | x4u3n | ToHellWithGA, maybe: https://easyengine.io/tutorials/linux/logrotate/ |
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| 16:07.13 | ToHellWithGA | i'm all for installing logrotate, x4u3n. what should i do now though, with "0" free on the partition? |
| 16:07.26 | ToHellWithGA | is there any harm in just cat'ing an empty file to the log? |
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| 16:08.39 | x4u3n | ToHellWithGA, it's impossible break free space? or add new one? |
| 16:09.47 | x4u3n | sorry my english |
| 16:09.47 | x4u3n | :P |
| 16:10.23 | ToHellWithGA | E: IO Error to output - fwrite (28: No space left on device) |
| 16:10.39 | ToHellWithGA | ^ what i get when i try to aptitude remove some random program to free up a few MB |
| 16:11.05 | x4u3n | try to delete logs sudo rm /var/log/*.1 |
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| 16:11.29 | x4u3n | or check space with du -bsh / |
| 16:11.33 | Powerless | does anyone know where to download debian 8? |
| 16:12.01 | Eisc | Powerless, the Debian website? :) |
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| 16:12.12 | mtn | must be a trick question |
| 16:12.16 | Eisc | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/ |
| 16:12.22 | Powerless | Eisc, didnt find it there. only 8.5 |
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| 16:12.36 | x4u3n | Powerless, http://www.debianland.de/shop/dvds |
| 16:12.37 | x4u3n | :P |
| 16:12.50 | TomTomTosch | 8.5 is the current point release of debian 8 jessie. |
| 16:13.03 | Powerless | i want the old version |
| 16:13.40 | x4u3n | http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 16:13.56 | ToHellWithGA | x4u3n: that made enough space for me to determine that logrotate is already installed |
| 16:14.07 | ToHellWithGA | now i just need to configure it :-/ |
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| 16:14.34 | x4u3n | ToHellWithGA, you will enjoy doing it |
| 16:14.35 | x4u3n | xD |
| 16:15.06 | Eisc | Powerless, for curiosity's sake, why do you want an old version? |
| 16:15.19 | ToHellWithGA | i enjoy having space on / a lot more than i enjoy pretending i'm a sysadmin |
| 16:15.25 | x4u3n | create a profile into /etc/logrotate.d/ and charge with logrotate -d or chgarge logrotate -f -v /etc/logrotate.d/file.conf |
| 16:15.50 | x4u3n | xD ToHellWithGA im sure you will find something to delete :P |
| 16:16.01 | Powerless | thanks |
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| 16:16.23 | Powerless | Eisc, cause the app i wanna install asks for this version |
| 16:16.33 | ToHellWithGA | x4u3n: honestly i'm thinking all logs and making the /var/log/ directory ro |
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| 16:16.56 | ToHellWithGA | i'd rather turn logging on when i need it than have it gobble up all my free space when i don't pay attention to it |
| 16:17.04 | Eisc | Eisc, does it not work on 8.5? |
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| 16:17.10 | Eisc | Powerless, * |
| 16:17.43 | Powerless | not sure...downloading just in case... |
| 16:17.44 | Eisc | 8.5 isn't a new release.. it's just updated packages. If you install 8.0 and apply updates, you will be running the same as 8.5 |
| 16:17.49 | Eisc | Don't bother |
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| 16:17.52 | Eisc | Get 8.5 |
| 16:18.15 | leba2 | In the iso download page I see the several debian isos, either for cd and dvd cases. But what are those "debian-update-8.5.0...." for? |
| 16:18.32 | Eisc | Powerless, are you new to Debian or Linux in general? |
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| 16:19.16 | Powerless | some apps dont install on different kernels for example NCOMPUTING softwares only work on ubuntu 14 |
| 16:19.21 | Powerless | or something |
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| 16:19.32 | Eisc | Debian Stable doesn't change the kernels |
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| 16:20.18 | Eisc | Debian 8 uses a 3.16 |
| 16:20.45 | Eisc | Only difference between 8.0 and 8.5 is the security updates etc |
| 16:20.56 | Eisc | So installing Debian 8.0 only to upgrade is a waste of time I think :) |
| 16:21.12 | Powerless | will try this 8.5 then..lets see :) |
| 16:21.19 | Eisc | I'd be very surprised if 8.0 works and 8.5 doesn't |
| 16:21.22 | leba2 | In the iso download page I see the several debian isos, either for cd and dvd cases. But what are those "debian-update-8.5.0...." for? |
| 16:21.31 | RoyK | Powerless: you can use a kernel from backports |
| 16:21.35 | RoyK | !backports |
| 16:21.35 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 16:22.29 | Eisc | RoyK, issue isn't upgrading kernel, it's about understanding that 8.0 and 8.5 are not different "releases" |
| 16:22.33 | Powerless | RoyK, does it work with ubuntu? that would help me a lot |
| 16:22.42 | Eisc | Powerless, Ubuntu has backports also |
| 16:22.53 | TomTomTosch | leba2: it's the update to the next point release if you have an old install and not was to upgrade through the internet. |
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| 16:23.07 | TomTomTosch | s/not was/no way |
| 16:23.21 | leba2 | Ooohh. Thanks. |
| 16:23.23 | RoyK | Powerless: ubuntu 16.04 uses kernel 4.4.0 |
| 16:23.24 | Powerless | will look into it thanks a lot |
| 16:23.31 | Eisc | Powerless, what exactly is your problem? |
| 16:23.42 | Eisc | A software which won't run? |
| 16:23.45 | Eisc | Or? |
| 16:23.57 | leba2 | I'm still surprised how almost everyone in most freenode channels now use the sed nomenclature. |
| 16:24.53 | ToHellWithGA | is it possible jerks are trying to hack me? |
| 16:25.13 | ToHellWithGA | my log is full again, with lines all similar to: |
| 16:25.14 | ToHellWithGA | Jun 29 11:15:38 ptolemy gnome-session[966]: 29/06/2016 11:15:38 AM 222.234.2.88 |
| 16:25.17 | ToHellWithGA | Jun 29 11:15:38 ptolemy gnome-session[966]: 29/06/2016 11:15:38 AM 221.174.25.219 |
| 16:25.20 | ToHellWithGA | Jun 29 11:15:38 ptolemy gnome-session[966]: 29/06/2016 11:15:38 AM 121.125.74.79 |
| 16:25.30 | nezZario | Hey guys |
| 16:25.33 | ToHellWithGA | i don't know those IPs. i don't know why they want my gnome-session. that seems weird. |
| 16:25.33 | nezZario | This doesn't make any sense |
| 16:25.46 | jelly | ubuntu has HWE kernels and other if you have a LTS release like 14.04 but new hardware that needs drivers from newer kernel or xorg |
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| 16:26.16 | Powerless | Eisc, this ncomputing software i tried to install on ubuntu for example, it only accepts Kernel version: 3.16.0-30-generic |
| 16:26.45 | nezZario | I have this little cheap 32GB USB ... it has a partition table on it .. (/dev/sdi and /dev/sdi1) ... ok.. on top of that is a btrfs filesystem... now if I plug this thing into a usb 3 slot.. it doesn't work .. at all .. won't let me fdisk it mount it or anything but it shows in dmesg being plugged in.. |
| 16:26.47 | Powerless | Eisc, if i could install an ubuntu 16.04 using this kernel..it would help me alot |
| 16:26.53 | jelly | Powerless: in any case, if you have to run ubuntu, run ubuntu and ask in #ubuntu about it |
| 16:27.00 | nezZario | but if i plug it into a usb 2 slot it works fine |
| 16:27.06 | Powerless | Eisc, same with bedian |
| 16:27.11 | Powerless | Eisc, same with debian |
| 16:27.30 | Eisc | So the issue is just choosing a kernel |
| 16:27.36 | Powerless | jelly, hen asked |
| 16:27.42 | jelly | Powerless: debian never had a kernel with an ABI version looking like "3.16.0-30-generic" |
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| 16:27.46 | Powerless | jelly, he* |
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| 16:28.21 | Eisc | I'd just install a 3.16.x kernel and see if it works |
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| 16:31.15 | ToHellWithGA | x4u3n: am i on the right track? are jerks trying to access my computer? |
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| 16:32.54 | ToHellWithGA | gnome-session[PID]: [date] [time] [IP address], about 100 per second |
| 16:33.18 | x4u3n | ToHellWithGA, lsof -i or netstat and check connections |
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| 16:33.20 | x4u3n | i go out |
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| 16:34.45 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: which log is that from? |
| 16:34.54 | ToHellWithGA | would rtorrent be logged as gnome-session if started in a gnome-terminal? |
| 16:35.03 | ToHellWithGA | /var/log/messages |
| 16:35.21 | ToHellWithGA | i could imagine many IPs connecting and disconnecting with several torrents active |
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| 16:36.02 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: can you figure out when this started? |
| 16:37.18 | ToHellWithGA | i cannot. i had to delete old logs to make space on the disk |
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| 16:37.40 | ToHellWithGA | well, i think i cannot. i'm not sure how to figure out when it began. |
| 16:37.41 | greycat | I can't imagine rtorrent writing to syslog() claiming to be gnome-session |
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| 16:38.48 | ToHellWithGA | it writes about 1MB of log every 5 seconds |
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| 16:39.25 | sharkman | i got my expect script to work kind of. i call it from inside a ruby program. it creates a ssh tunnel. is there a way to run the expect program in the background indefinitely |
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| 16:40.08 | ToHellWithGA | greycat: it's so many unique IPs. i'll stop rtorrent for a few hours to see if it continues |
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| 16:40.31 | greycat | Does GNOME have its own firewall? If so, maybe it's output from a firewall? |
| 16:40.41 | ToHellWithGA | this one makes me worry: |
| 16:40.42 | ToHellWithGA | Jun 29 11:40:01 ptolemy gnome-session[966]: ** (vino-server:1245): WARNING **: Deferring authentication of '222.186.55.212' for 5 seconds |
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| 16:40.54 | greycat | what is "vino-server"? |
| 16:40.56 | ToHellWithGA | that definitely looks like a failed VNC login |
| 16:41.03 | ToHellWithGA | vino-server is GNOME's internal VNC thing |
| 16:41.15 | greycat | That looks far more likely than rtorrent. |
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| 16:42.14 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: is this machine on public internet? |
| 16:42.28 | greycat | sharkman: I don't know ruby. You might have to ask a ruby channel if no one here knows. |
| 16:42.51 | jelly | if you have a vnc server open on default port on public internet, I'd imagine it may be brute-forced like that |
| 16:42.58 | ToHellWithGA | jelly: it's on a home router with very few ports open |
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| 16:43.15 | greycat | ToHellWithGA: that didn't answer the question |
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| 16:43.35 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: is :5900 open for vnc, and connections from the public IP address forwarded to your machine? |
| 16:43.48 | ToHellWithGA | to the best of my knowledge some ports are exposed to the internet at large via port forwarding |
| 16:44.20 | ToHellWithGA | the normal ports for ssh, vnc, http, and mpd |
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| 16:44.32 | jelly | "don't do that" |
| 16:44.44 | ToHellWithGA | is there a better way? |
| 16:45.05 | jelly | THERE MUST BE A BETTER WAY |
| 16:45.09 | ToHellWithGA | i like to be able to ssh to my computer (as i'm doing now) and vnc to it as well (as i sometimes do) |
| 16:45.18 | greycat | Do you actually VNC *into* this desktop machine from outside, on purpose? |
| 16:45.26 | RoyK | something like using av VPN |
| 16:45.27 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: yes, leave only ssh open, and tunnel vnc thru that if needed |
| 16:45.30 | ToHellWithGA | i do that, yes |
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| 16:45.36 | ToHellWithGA | i VNC directly to that computer |
| 16:45.37 | greycat | OK, if you actually want both of those, I would move them to alternative ports (not standard ones). |
| 16:46.15 | greycat | Or if jelly says VNC can be tunneled over ssh, just move ssh to an alternative port, and don't forward the VNC port. |
| 16:46.16 | ToHellWithGA | if VNC over ssh is better i can try it. i like the idea of "better" even if i don't know why or how yet. |
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| 16:47.11 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: then set up brute force deterrents (fail2ban) for the remaining open services, and leave only key-based auth for ssh |
| 16:47.20 | sharkman | i should set up keys instead of this wacky expect stuff it looks like |
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| 16:47.39 | ToHellWithGA | is fail2ban something i should run on the computer or the router? |
| 16:48.00 | ToHellWithGA | i'm slightly out of my depth here, and it appears the hackers of the world are aware of it and trying to exploit it. |
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| 16:48.24 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: you run it on the computer, it sets up temporary iptables (local firewall) blocks for any IP address that tries to connect too often |
| 16:48.25 | greycat | I've never used fail2ban. It's not needed if you move ssh to a different port. |
| 16:48.34 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: these are automated scripts. |
| 16:48.56 | jelly | greycat: security by obscurity is sometimes useful, yes |
| 16:49.24 | greycat | As long as you realize that the intent is merely to stop the packet-flooding of automatic brute force attacks, not the NSA. |
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| 16:49.55 | jelly | the intent is to make the logs stop scrolling wildly |
| 16:50.06 | greycat | That would be a side effect. |
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| 16:51.34 | ToHellWithGA | is installed it via aptitude and will see if the logs stop growing so rapidly |
| 16:51.42 | ToHellWithGA | s/is installed/i installed/ |
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| 16:56.44 | ToHellWithGA | oh that most certainly does nothing on its own |
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| 16:56.51 | ToHellWithGA | i'll have to write rules :( |
| 16:57.15 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: they won't stop until you stop the vnc service, or actually configure fail2ban to look at the log lines that bother you at preset |
| 16:57.18 | jelly | present* |
| 16:57.43 | jelly | by default only the predefined sshd rules are enabled |
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| 16:59.00 | jelly | ToHellWithGA: or at least move that outside vnc port from default 5900 to 44837 |
| 16:59.12 | jelly | guaranteed to be random. |
| 16:59.42 | ToHellWithGA | well that's starting to make sense. if i do "sudo invoke-rc.d [tab tab tab tab]" there is nothing resembling vnc or vino, so it seems to just be a thing run by gdm3 |
| 16:59.44 | greycat | http://wooledge.org/~greg/dilbert.gif |
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| 17:00.37 | ToHellWithGA | greycat: they colored it too! http://dilbert.com/strip/2001-10-25 |
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| 17:31.37 | kol | Hello, please help. I accidentally deleted everything in /boot. It was located on a seperate partition. |
| 17:31.46 | greycat | Restore from your backup. |
| 17:31.53 | kol | I do not have one. |
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| 17:32.06 | greycat | Then reinstall the kernel image packages. |
| 17:32.17 | greycat | You may also have to reinstall grub. Can't remember if it has static files in there. |
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| 17:34.05 | greycat | I... don't see any in grub-common, grub2-common or grub-pc, but who knows. |
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| 17:34.28 | kol | I am chrooted into the system. When installing grub I get an error: grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists. |
| 17:34.53 | canopus | 14:31 <......... kol> I do not have one. |
| 17:35.05 | canopus | I don't have either.. |
| 17:35.17 | canopus | What's the best way to create a system backup ? |
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| 17:35.34 | greycat | Totally depends on what you're backing up *to*. |
| 17:35.54 | kol | I also do not know how to reinstall kernal image package, is that from apt? |
| 17:36.07 | greycat | kol: apt-get --reinstall install pkgname1 pkgname2 pkgname3 ... |
| 17:36.30 | canopus | greycat: for example, if I'd like to back up the users on the system and their files.. |
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| 17:36.40 | kol | What do I put for pkgname1? |
| 17:36.48 | mimtf | i use debian too, but why comment color is blue, so i canât see it well |
| 17:36.51 | greycat | Are you serious?! |
| 17:37.00 | greycat | The name of the package you want to reinstall. |
| 17:37.31 | canopus | greycat: I guess I should backup the /home partition |
| 17:37.52 | greycat | /home and /etc are the CRITICAL pieces that you MUST back up, yes. Everything else is typically lower priority. |
| 17:37.52 | canopus | is there any good tutorial about creating backups in Debian? |
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| 17:38.10 | greycat | Onto what media? |
| 17:38.32 | greycat | If it's an external USB hard drive, just format it with a Unix-type file system (ext3 or something) and rsync. |
| 17:38.42 | greycat | Anything else will be harder. |
| 17:38.51 | kol | greycat: I mean, how do I find the names of the 'kernel image packages', so that I can reinstall them with the command you provided? |
| 17:39.00 | xelo | Hey all. |
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| 17:39.17 | greycat | kol: dpkg -l linux-image\* | cat |
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| 17:41.32 | canopus | greycat: what do you mean by rsync? |
| 17:41.38 | greycat | ,info rsync |
| 17:41.39 | judd | Package rsync (net, optional) in jessie/amd64: fast, versatile, remote (and local) file-copying tool. Version: 3.1.1-3; Size: 380.6k; Installed: 732k; Homepage: http://rsync.samba.org/ |
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| 17:43.38 | kol | greycay: Would dpkg -S /boot also work, how does this differ? |
| 17:43.52 | canopus | so it's a tool that would help me to copy my files from /home and /etc to my USB flash driver. is this right? |
| 17:45.02 | greycat | Any files. Whatever you tell it to copy. |
| 17:45.15 | canopus | Right. |
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| 17:45.33 | greycat | It's glorious for backups because it checks the timestamps and other metadata on files on source & desination and only copies the minimum set of information needed. |
| 17:46.00 | canopus | and then, if I'd like to make a clean-install of Debian and restore the information from that backup how would I do it? |
| 17:46.28 | greycat | Well, that is much much harder. |
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| 17:46.49 | greycat | You can restore /home as is, no problems. You CANNOT restore /etc blindly. You should merge it in somehow, usually by hand. |
| 17:47.45 | canopus | I see.. |
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| 17:49.22 | canopus | but with restoring /home as is, wouldn't be problems with the permissions? because the users don't exist... |
| 17:50.06 | greycat | The files are owned by a UID and a GID (numbers). The mapping of those numbers to names is done by ls. If the users aren't created yet, they show up as "1001" or whatever. When the users are created, they show up as "linda". |
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| 17:50.46 | greycat | Just make sure when you recreate the users that you retain the same name/UID mappings. |
| 17:50.54 | canopus | ohhh |
| 17:50.59 | canopus | I see.. |
| 17:51.07 | greycat | Restoring /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/group *MIGHT* work. But be cautious. |
| 17:51.41 | canopus | simply substituting them directly? |
| 17:51.56 | xelo | Hey, I recently installed jessie on my old Lenovo T400 Thinkpad. Now I get a strange error which floods dmesg: "pciehp 0000:00:1c.4:pcie04: Card not present on Slot(4)" and "pciehp 0000:00:1c.4:pcie04: Card present on Slot(4)" as well as "Link Training Error occurs" and "Failed to check link status". Has anyone seen this? |
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| 17:54.07 | kol | greycat: I have try to reinstall, how every it cannot find the repo in my chroot. I have run apt-get update. |
| 17:54.15 | kol | however* |
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| 18:08.55 | Miesco | Hi. How do I run ffmpeg? |
| 18:08.58 | Miesco | I can't find it. |
| 18:09.05 | Miesco | or avconv |
| 18:09.07 | Miesco | ,ffmpeg |
| 18:09.20 | TomTomTosch | ,v ffmpeg |
| 18:09.22 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-2+deb7u2; jessie-backports: 7:3.0.2-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.0.2-4; sid: 7:3.0.2-4; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1; sid-multimedia: |
| 18:09.23 | judd | 10:3.1-dmo2 |
| 18:09.40 | Miesco | jessie-multimedia? |
| 18:09.43 | TomTomTosch | it's in jessie-backports, you need to add that to your sources. |
| 18:10.05 | greycat | *hand wave* you did not see *-multimedia repositories. These are not the packages you're looking for. |
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| 18:10.55 | Miesco | greycat: You are telling me to ignore deb-multimedia.org? |
| 18:11.13 | greycat | !multimedia |
| 18:11.14 | dpkg | Debian's main repository has lots of great multimedia packages with more included in each release. Ask me about <search> to find them and <rfp> if something is not yet packaged. The old <deb-multimedia.org> is has not been a "must have" repo for for multimedia support for several releases; it now mostly contains poor quality packages or current Debian packages recompiled with incompatible with other packages in Debian. |
| 18:11.35 | greycat | dpkg, multimedia =~ s/is has not/has not/ |
| 18:11.36 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 18:11.49 | greycat | dpkg, multimedia =~ s/for for/for/ |
| 18:11.49 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 18:12.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | recompiled with incompatible? |
| 18:12.25 | Miesco | ,what is jessie-backports |
| 18:12.30 | greycat | I can't even parse that one well enough to fix it. |
| 18:12.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh |
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| 18:12.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just did... took a while |
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| 18:12.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, multimedia =~ s/recompiled with/recompiled/ |
| 18:12.52 | dpkg | OK, CutMeOwnThroat |
| 18:13.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | talking about low quality |
| 18:13.02 | greycat | incompatibly? |
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| 18:13.18 | TomTomTosch | !tell Miesco about jessie-backports |
| 18:13.18 | greycat | to be incompatible? |
| 18:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | probable :P |
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| 18:13.55 | greycat | Miesco: , is the trigger for judd (an interface to the Ultimate Debian Database). ! is the trigger for dpkg (factoid-based bot). |
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| 18:14.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | pity we already messed with it |
| 18:14.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, factinfo multimedia |
| 18:14.37 | dpkg | multimedia -- last modified at Sun Apr 19 04:54:33 2015 by themill!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill; it has been requested 293 times, last by greycat, 3m 24s ago. |
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| 18:15.04 | greycat | ? |
| 18:15.18 | Miesco | What is the difference between jessie-backports on the mirror and jessie-backports on backports.debian.org? |
| 18:15.21 | greycat | Is the last modified on a delay or something? |
| 18:15.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought you might have changed it offline one more time |
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| 18:16.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems I'm stealthy |
| 18:16.20 | greycat | Still says last modified April 2015. |
| 18:16.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, didn't see that |
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| 18:17.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | and says themill, not you or me... |
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| 18:18.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | it used to be the s/ modifications werent registered as modifications... but I thought that changed about half a year ago |
| 18:18.26 | Miesco | greycat: "jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main»" |
| 18:18.36 | greycat | Why are you telling me this? |
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| 18:18.43 | Miesco | greycat: I used to have the one from backports.debian.org. What is the difference? |
| 18:18.54 | greycat | Who said there is a difference? |
| 18:18.59 | TomTomTosch | i think backports.debian.org is deprecated. |
| 18:19.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, backports |
| 18:19.17 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 18:19.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | that one is ok anyway |
| 18:19.49 | Miesco | greycat: The bot, in the quoted text |
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| 18:20.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, jessie-backports |
| 18:20.26 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 18:20.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | Miesco, well, what about it |
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| 18:21.38 | Miesco | CutMeOwnThroat: I just want to know what the difference is between the two repositories |
| 18:21.58 | Miesco | Also, with jessie-backports, are all the backports added to my aptitude window and apt-cache search? |
| 18:22.21 | Miesco | "The backports repository is deactivated by default. So, if you want to install a backported package, you will have to state that explicitly. " |
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| 18:23.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | packages from backports should turn up in searches, but they are set to be low priority for any install |
| 18:23.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | now you made me wonder how many packages are in bdo but not in stable |
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| 18:25.17 | Miesco | CutMeOwnThroat: I checked by comparing the numbers in aptitude between `aptitude` and `aptitude -t backports-jessie` |
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| 18:28.04 | TomTomTosch | huh? |
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| 18:28.24 | DammitJim | any other netflow analyzers from experience besides ntop (ntopng)? |
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| 18:30.23 | sharkman | im running a ruby program which forks and after its over its messing up my linxu terminal, ioctl(set): I/O error |
| 18:30.32 | sharkman | dan@issac:~/sports$ |
| 18:30.32 | sharkman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.32 | sharkman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.44 | sharkman | see the weird spacing, and if i type stuff in it doesnt appear |
| 18:31.24 | sharkman | i cant see what i type into the wndow but if i hit ls and enter it does execute properly. any idea what is going on? and if there is a way to fix it without closing the terminal and opening a new one? |
| 18:31.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno, aptitude search '?and(?archive(jessie-backports),?not(?archive(jessie)))' seems to tell me there are exactly zero packages in backports that aren't also in stable |
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| 18:32.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | fatal: Access denied for user foo by PAM account configuration [preauth] |
| 18:32.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | i think i'm making progress! |
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| 18:33.17 | greycat | sharkman: programming questions don't get much response here. Try your ruby channel. Or a channel for whatever thing you are forking, if you suspect that's the one leaving the terminal in the wrong state. |
| 18:33.40 | sharkman | okay will do |
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| 18:36.17 | kol | After accidentally deleting /boot, I reinstalled grub and the kernel, from a chroot. Now, I get a Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). |
| 18:36.51 | kol | Is this normal? I assume I need to update-initramfs. However, I get this update-initramfs is disabled (live system is running on read-only media). |
| 18:37.38 | kini | in what sense did you delete /boot ? |
| 18:38.00 | kini | like, the contents of /boot or the partition or what? |
| 18:38.02 | kol | I deleted every thing in /boot, which is located on a seperate partition. |
| 18:38.06 | kol | The contents. |
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| 18:38.50 | kol | Following this, I get a kernal panic. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/176947/mistakenly-deleted-boot-folder-and-rebooted |
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| 18:41.11 | kini | hmm - and you did step 5 in that stackexchange answer successfully? afaik reinstalling the debian kernel packages should recreate the initramfs without any problem |
| 18:41.23 | kol | I did |
| 18:41.41 | greycat | He seems to be saying he couldn't reinstall things properly because something live CD something read only. |
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| 18:42.42 | croddy | sharkman that's a bug in the ruby program but you can fix your terminal by running 'reset' |
| 18:42.53 | sharkman | sweet thanks |
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| 18:42.58 | kol | kini: The install, did not give me erorrs. I rebooted and got a kernel panic. Then, I tried to update initramfs. I could not. |
| 18:43.35 | sharkman | whew i got it working, off topic but if anyone is interested in how to spawn a program in ruby system("nohup ./test.sh &") |
| 18:44.35 | kol | OH, the reinstall does give the same error. |
| 18:44.37 | kol | I: update-initramfs is disabled (live system is running on read-only media). |
| 18:44.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | so, i'm using realmd and sssd and nsswitch... |
| 18:44.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | and it's _almost_ working... |
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| 18:45.07 | ioudas | heh |
| 18:45.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | when i ssh to the target system as an invalid user, i get the usual "Permission denied, please try again." |
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| 18:45.43 | NoImNotNineVolt | but i sshe to the target system as a valid activedirectory user, i get "Connection closed by 10.10.10.10" |
| 18:46.24 | NoImNotNineVolt | in the target system's auth.log, i get "fatal: Access denied for user valid-user by PAM account configuration [preauth]" |
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| 18:46.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | any ideas? |
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| 18:48.03 | jim | hi... question... did debian do a point release to jessie? if so when was the last one? |
| 18:48.31 | greycat | !8.5 |
| 18:48.31 | dpkg | Debian 8.5 was released on June 4, 2016. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Further details are at https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160604 and http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>. |
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| 18:48.56 | rozie | it's on main page of https://www.debian.org/ |
| 18:49.18 | jim | greycat, I think I got that one... now, it says there are 118 upgrades... |
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| 18:49.55 | greycat | If one of them is base-files then it's a point release. |
| 18:50.04 | greycat | cat /etc/debian_version is also handy |
| 18:50.47 | jim | 8.5 |
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| 19:12.02 | kol | I updated my initramfs and I still get a kernel panic. Output of update: http://pastebin.com/raw/6BkJj3i8 |
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| 19:12.30 | kol | Please, can someone help? My kernel panic: kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) |
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| 19:12.57 | kol | Oh, I did update-grub after. |
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| 19:14.35 | mtn | kol: how did you do update-grub if you can't boot? |
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| 19:14.43 | vook | Is it possible to perform a net install via a tagged vlan ? |
| 19:14.45 | kol | mtn: Live USB, with chroot. |
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| 19:15.22 | wh0ami | hi guys |
| 19:15.24 | mtn | kol: looks like you are using ubuntu, right? |
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| 19:15.29 | wh0ami | can someone recommend me iptables rules or firewall to stop attacks? like limitting incoming connections in X time |
| 19:15.35 | kol | mtn: No Debian 8.4 |
| 19:15.36 | wh0ami | also a good networking monitor that got detailed web panel |
| 19:16.08 | mtn | kol: I dont' think that is a debian kernel it is talking about |
| 19:16.11 | vook | wh0ami: fail2ban - no web panel though |
| 19:16.36 | wh0ami | vook: i've got this one installed but it dont work with one service that im interested to protect |
| 19:16.41 | wh0ami | i mean, is not compatible with it |
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| 19:21.26 | kol | mtn: How can you tell? |
| 19:21.59 | mtn | kol: the word generic in the kernel name. that is an ubuntu kernle. were you using a ubuntu live disk at the time? |
| 19:22.15 | kol | mtn: No, that was from google. |
| 19:22.36 | mtn | kol: from google? google has their own distro? which one? |
| 19:22.48 | kol | mtn: I just changed it to amd64, it look like familar output. |
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| 19:23.01 | kol | mtn: no, a stack exchange post talking about it, nvm lol |
| 19:23.09 | greycat | *what* |
| 19:23.10 | kol | I think I got it, going to restart now, thanks. |
| 19:23.13 | mtn | kol: sorry, you are not making sense. what distro was on the live disk? |
| 19:23.32 | greycat | Is he saying he posted errors from someone else's posts that he found on google, instead of his own actual errors? |
| 19:23.55 | mtn | I sure don't know |
| 19:24.14 | kol | mtn: They are my errors, I used someone else's command. Changed the version number, but did not change the 'generic' to 'amd64'. Until now. |
| 19:24.34 | kol | The output look familar, I think I have fixed it. Going to leave the chat and restart. Thanks for the help. |
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| 19:29.30 | mdim | hi all |
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| 19:30.59 | mdim | when replying to a bug report, do I keep submit@ included, or do I leave it out? |
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| 19:32.27 | kol | WOW, Very spooky. All fixed not, thanks to everyone that helped. |
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| 19:32.33 | kol | now* |
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| 19:33.35 | kol | That last problem was indeed caused by typing 'generic', instead of 'amd64' in the command. |
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| 19:46.01 | Andre483 | hello, how can I fix this warnings logged in /var/log/secure sshd Did not receive identification string from <ip> |
| 19:46.06 | Andre483 | it's my IP that keeps spamming every 15 minutes |
| 19:46.50 | greycat | Stop making a broken ssh connection every 15 minutes? |
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| 19:49.32 | fennesz | Hello! Does anyone use rtorrent that can help me ? |
| 19:49.40 | greycat | !anyone |
| 19:49.41 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 19:50.11 | NoImNotNineVolt | does realmd actually work? |
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| 19:50.38 | jhutchins | That's a fairly common effect of monitoring software. |
| 19:50.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | because over here, it seems to, almost, but not quite. |
| 19:51.24 | NoImNotNineVolt | i can getent passwd foo@domain and get what looks like correct output... |
| 19:51.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | but realmd dies after 60 seconds, "quitting realmd service after timeout" |
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| 19:55.00 | fennesz | greycat, I am asking with "anyone" because it s not a debian question |
| 19:55.17 | greycat | You're just wasting time. Ask the question. |
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| 19:56.21 | fennesz | :) I am using rutorrent as gui and getting this error : Tracker: [Could not resolve hostname.] . Also I cant seem to search from the search bar in top right corner |
| 19:56.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's weird, because it's clearly doing SOMETHING with the AD server... |
| 19:56.33 | NoImNotNineVolt | i can see the computer showing up in the domain computers list on the AD server side... |
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| 19:57.37 | greycat | Does it work if you just use rtorrent itself? Is this actually an "rutorrent" question? (That wasn't even what you said initially.) |
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| 19:58.56 | fennesz | Not tested with rtorrent by itself , but I guessing will be the same since rutorrent is a front end gui |
| 19:59.28 | greycat | Find out where the problem is actually occurring. Find out which tracker's domain name it's having trouble resolving. |
| 19:59.37 | fennesz | ok let me see |
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| 19:59.53 | fennesz | btw I am using opendns and google for dns servers |
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| 20:00.03 | greycat | If you're trying to seed a torrent that was tracked by piratebay or something, you should expect name lookup failures. |
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| 20:00.55 | Miesco | Hi. How do I search for weechat but with versions? |
| 20:01.04 | Miesco | I want to see if jessie-backports version is higher |
| 20:01.06 | Miesco | ,v weechat |
| 20:01.07 | judd | Package: weechat on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 0.4.3-2~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.0.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.0.1-1; jessie-backports: 1.5-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.5-1; sid: 1.5-1 |
| 20:02.05 | Miesco | ah thanks |
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| 20:02.35 | fennesz | greycat, on the tracker tab there is one tracker uresolved ( dht://) . Don't know what that is , reading about it right now |
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| 20:03.03 | Nik05 | fennesz its a distributed hashing table |
| 20:03.17 | greycat | dht (distributed hash table) is ... special |
| 20:03.30 | fennesz | Nik05, ok dont know what that is :) |
| 20:03.40 | greycat | It's a kind of decentralized non-tracker-using thing to find stuff... |
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| 20:03.49 | Nik05 | its some way to get to peer in a distributed system |
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| 20:04.14 | greycat | I don't want to accidentally say something that is factually incorrect since I don't understand the gory inner workings. |
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| 20:04.57 | greycat | Long story short, when you use dht (and you SHOULD be using it), you'll get a shitload of requests that fail, but that's normal, because you're dealing with a pure peer-to-peer (decentralized) network. |
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| 20:05.36 | fennesz | ok |
| 20:06.15 | fennesz | so , could this be the reason I get "Could not resolve hostname" ? |
| 20:06.24 | Nik05 | where do you get that? |
| 20:07.33 | fennesz | Nik05, in rutorrent in general tab, also I can't search on rutorrent using the search bar on the top-right |
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| 20:08.05 | greycat | By the way, never heard of "rutorrent" before. Googled it. Found a result that looked like it might explain stuff. Clicked it. The page kinda maybe loaded but was immediately covered by a giant full-window ad with no obvious bypass. |
| 20:08.22 | greycat | My own danmed fault for doing it in chrome instead of firefox-with-noscript, I suppose. |
| 20:08.36 | greycat | I closed the tab of course. Fuck it. |
| 20:09.06 | fennesz | rutorrent looks very nice greycat |
| 20:09.19 | fennesz | for headless setups ofc |
| 20:09.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | chrome-with-ublock works well for me. |
| 20:09.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | s/ublock/ublock-origin/ |
| 20:09.41 | greycat | I have ublock but I still got a full-page login ad thing don'tcarewhatthefuckitis justmakeitgoaway. |
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| 20:09.57 | fennesz | greycat, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9bmkdy0pT4 |
| 20:10.03 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 20:10.14 | greycat | I am not going to load a FUCKING YOUTUBE VIDEO on my work machine with no audio. |
| 20:10.25 | fennesz | :) |
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| 20:22.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | i feel like the first person to use realmd under debian :P |
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| 20:28.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | wait, i fixed it!! woot!! |
| 20:28.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | `realm permit --realm domain.example.com --all` !! |
| 20:31.11 | ioudas | lol |
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| 20:33.21 | tehrabbitt | hm, so i keep getting an error I can't figure out :/ |
| 20:33.29 | tehrabbitt | Jun 29 16:32:53 API4 postfix/master[3458]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use |
| 20:33.46 | greycat | some other MTA (mail server) is already running |
| 20:34.01 | greycat | It's a really, really, crystal clear message. |
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| 20:34.22 | tehrabbitt | greycat, how can I determine what other MTA is installed? |
| 20:34.26 | greycat | try "lsof -i :25" or something with ss or netstat to see which one it is |
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| 20:34.49 | tehrabbitt | sendmail- 31725 root 4u IPv4 3523517 0t0 TCP localhost:smtp (LISTEN) |
| 20:34.55 | tehrabbitt | but apt-get remove sendmail doesn't work :/ |
| 20:35.11 | greycat | Are you sure this is a vanilla Debian installation? Not an image provided by some VPS/host? |
| 20:35.21 | tehrabbitt | Yes. |
| 20:35.25 | tehrabbitt | installed it myself |
| 20:35.32 | tehrabbitt | greycat, brand new, as of this monday |
| 20:35.35 | bezaban | what does 'doesn't work' mean? |
| 20:35.43 | tehrabbitt | postfix/postdrop[2590]: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory |
| 20:35.45 | tehrabbitt | that |
| 20:35.53 | NoImNotNineVolt | debian docs regarding ldap could use an update... |
| 20:35.58 | bezaban | tehrabbitt: when you try to remove sendmail? |
| 20:36.00 | tehrabbitt | when I try to remove postfix, and install sendmail-bin, it errors out |
| 20:36.00 | greycat | You got a postfix message from "apt-get remove sendmail"? |
| 20:36.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | like, specifically, the activedirectory use case... |
| 20:36.09 | NoImNotNineVolt | http://www.alandmoore.com/blog/2015/05/06/joining-debian-8-to-active-directory/ |
| 20:36.11 | tehrabbitt | Package 'sendmail-bin' is not installed, so not removed |
| 20:36.20 | tehrabbitt | trying to install sendmail, gives an error too |
| 20:36.25 | greycat | 16:34 tehrabbitt> but apt-get remove sendmail doesn't work :/ |
| 20:36.30 | greycat | 16:36 tehrabbitt> when I try to remove postfix, and install sendmail-bin, it |
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| 20:36.34 | NoImNotNineVolt | realmd makes it waaaaaay easier |
| 20:36.37 | bezaban | is confused |
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| 20:36.44 | greycat | tehrabbitt keeps changing his story |
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| 20:36.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | and it's in the jessie repo, but the docs don't even mention it. |
| 20:36.58 | tehrabbitt | greycat, okay let me start from the beginning. |
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| 20:37.28 | tehrabbitt | I installed sendmail, it gave an error a while back (I lost the scrollback) stating that the package was broken / sendmail-bin would not be installed. |
| 20:37.31 | tehrabbitt | so I installed postfix. |
| 20:37.39 | tehrabbitt | that didnt' work, so I removed postfix. |
| 20:37.43 | tehrabbitt | tried installing sendmail-bin |
| 20:37.51 | tehrabbitt | that didnt' work either. |
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| 20:38.01 | tehrabbitt | so I removed sendmail-bin, reinstalled postfix, |
| 20:38.19 | greycat | For god's sake, SLOW DOWN. Figure out what is installed. dpkg -l postfix\* sendmail\* exim\* |
| 20:38.21 | tehrabbitt | right now, it shows sendmail as "running" even though it's not installed. |
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| 20:38.31 | Andre483 | hello, how can I fix this warnings logged in /var/log/secure sshd Did not receive identification string from <ip> |
| 20:38.37 | Andre483 | it's my IP that keeps spamming every 15 minutes |
| 20:38.40 | bezaban | cat /etc/sources.list? :s |
| 20:39.01 | tehrabbitt | http://paste.debian.net/771988/ |
| 20:39.15 | greycat | Andre483: are you probing *yourself* through your non-loopback interface? How many machines are even in this question? Why did you ignore everything we said to you half an hour ago? |
| 20:39.30 | Andre483 | greycat: sorry but I didn't see my name and missed it |
| 20:39.54 | Andre483 | it's basically a local server ssh connection to a remote server |
| 20:40.19 | tehrabbitt | greycat, sorry I was just getting confused on why It wouldn't let me install sendmail at first, aand then, wouldn't let me install postfix because sendmail was running |
| 20:40.21 | greycat | tehrabbitt: so, exim4 was installed and removed cleanly, but not purged. Fine. postfix is installed but cannot run because sendmail is already running. sendmail-base and sendmail-cf are installed, but sendmail-bin is removed-not-purged. |
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| 20:40.47 | tehrabbitt | greycat, so purge / remove all 3, and then just do postfix? |
| 20:40.49 | greycat | tehrabbitt: Which one do you actually *WANT*? |
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| 20:41.15 | greycat | Andre483: 15:50 jhutchins> That's a fairly common effect of monitoring software. |
| 20:41.20 | tehrabbitt | greycat, ability to e-mail from php mail(), IIRC, the other servers have postfix, so i'd like to stick with that |
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| 20:41.34 | Andre483 | I can assure you there is no type of monitoring software occuring |
| 20:41.35 | greycat | tehrabbitt: OK, then I would attempt to purge sendmail-base and sendmail-cf |
| 20:41.53 | greycat | Andre483: well, something is making an ssh connection "every 15 minutes". Figure out what it is. |
| 20:42.02 | Andre483 | well, I am thinking it's the keepalive |
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| 20:42.58 | greycat | tehrabbitt: manually killing the sendmail process wouldn't be the worst possible move either, but try the package system first |
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| 20:44.18 | Andre483 | whoops |
| 20:44.24 | tehrabbitt | postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory |
| 20:44.26 | tehrabbitt | nope :( |
| 20:44.32 | Andre483 | I forgot, I had created a process to check if the SSH port is open lol |
| 20:44.53 | Andre483 | if it doesn't I get an email |
| 20:46.20 | Andre483 | I don't suppose there is a way to avoid ssh from notating that |
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| 20:47.04 | tehrabbitt | greycat, still no luck :\ |
| 20:48.14 | greycat | I don't know what to tell you. Purge sendmail, reinstall postfix. |
| 20:48.43 | ejcx_ | wh0ami did you fix your problem? |
| 20:48.49 | tehrabbitt | when I tried installing sendmail earlier, this was the error |
| 20:49.01 | greycat | DO NOT REINSTALL SENDMAIL. |
| 20:49.06 | tehrabbitt | *** MAILER(`local') must appear after FEATURE(`allmasquerade')*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() |
| 20:49.06 | greycat | You said you wanted postfix. |
| 20:49.10 | tehrabbitt | greycat, yeah |
| 20:49.33 | greycat | How do you have three god damned mail server packages on a system that was "brand new monday"... |
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| 20:50.00 | tehrabbitt | greycat, because I tried sendmail, install failed halfway through. |
| 20:50.05 | tehrabbitt | removed sendmail (apparently not all of it) |
| 20:50.08 | tehrabbitt | tried postfix. |
| 20:50.11 | greycat | PURGE IT |
| 20:50.15 | tehrabbitt | I did. |
| 20:50.22 | wh0ami | ejcx_: im installing ossec |
| 20:50.29 | wh0ami | but nothing about firewall |
| 20:50.33 | greycat | You "did", or you "tried and failed but I won't say what I tried or what the errors were"? |
| 20:50.58 | tehrabbitt | greycat, http://paste.debian.net/771999/ |
| 20:51.02 | greycat | (SHUTUPBOT) dpkg --purge sendmail-base sendmail-cf |
| 20:51.27 | tehrabbitt | dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove sendmail-base which isn't installed |
| 20:51.27 | tehrabbitt | dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove sendmail-cf which isn't installed |
| 20:51.27 | dpkg | tehrabbitt: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 20:51.41 | greycat | OK. So sendmail is completely *gone* now, right? Except maybe the -bin package that you didn't purge, but that shouldn't have configs. |
| 20:52.07 | tehrabbitt | apparently, other than it was still running (had to kill the process) |
| 20:52.10 | greycat | OK. |
| 20:52.18 | greycat | So reinstall postfix now. |
| 20:52.36 | tehrabbitt | okay I purged the sendmail-bin as well, so NO sendmail. |
| 20:52.39 | tehrabbitt | okay |
| 20:52.50 | tehrabbitt | so remove / reinstall postfix? |
| 20:53.04 | greycat | If purging is required, so be it, but try a simple reinstall first. |
| 20:53.13 | tehrabbitt | okay |
| 20:53.58 | tehrabbitt | okay it's reinstalled |
| 20:54.41 | tehrabbitt | yet if i do an lsof -i :25 |
| 20:54.42 | tehrabbitt | sendmail- 17038 root 4u IPv4 5149389 0t0 TCP localhost:smtp (LISTEN) |
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| 20:55.22 | tehrabbitt | killed it, going to restart postfix |
| 20:55.26 | greycat | Different PID than before. Something respawned it after you killed it. |
| 20:55.45 | tehrabbitt | okay it's not running this time around |
| 20:55.56 | tehrabbitt | but neither is postfix. |
| 20:56.25 | tehrabbitt | reinstalled postfix, now it looks like it's running |
| 20:57.03 | tehrabbitt | ps aux | grep postfix shows a bunch of threads now |
| 20:57.05 | PegasusRPG | Hello. I just cloned my old 512-byte sector HD to a new 512e one and one of the partitions is not aligned. (The Extended one "does not start on physical sector boundary.") It contains a ReserFS partition and a LUKS one. I'm trying to use Gparted to move the extended partition but it won't let me add an offset at the start. |
| 20:57.07 | tehrabbitt | whereas before it showed none |
| 20:57.20 | PegasusRPG | I can adjust the values so that it generates a -1MB offset but when I try to apply it, it says the end can't be before the start yet it isn't. |
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| 20:58.35 | tehrabbitt | greycat, I think it works now :) thank you |
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| 20:58.51 | tehrabbitt | it was that stubborn sendmail bin that kept respawning i think |
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| 20:59.16 | PegasusRPG | http://paste.debian.net/772011/ |
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| 21:01.49 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: It doesn't really matter, that's just an informational message. |
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| 21:02.16 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: The architecture of the new drive is probably different. |
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| 21:02.39 | PegasusRPG | jhutchins: yes, the new drive is Advanced Format with 512-byte sector emulation |
| 21:03.08 | PegasusRPG | I used ddrescue to clone the entire thing. Should I have done something differently? |
| 21:03.17 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: What would happen if you just ignored it and went on with your life? |
| 21:03.27 | PegasusRPG | jhutchins: it's super slow |
| 21:03.39 | PegasusRPG | (compared to the previous drive.) |
| 21:04.17 | PegasusRPG | Granted this is a 5400RPM and the old one was 7200 but it feels like a 4x slowdown |
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| 21:05.16 | PegasusRPG | like it literally took about 4x longer to install an updated kernel package |
| 21:05.58 | PegasusRPG | Are you saying there's no easy way to align the partition? I'm not above re-cloning the old drive |
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| 21:06.28 | PegasusRPG | hates that the Acronis TrueImage utility they provide with the new drive requires a whole OS to use |
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| 21:08.12 | greycat | PegasusRPG: I have utterly no clue why you are doing anything you are doing. Why did you not simply partition the drive, make file systems, and then copy files over? Why all this babble about sectors? |
| 21:08.55 | PegasusRPG | greycat: because I thought it would be quicker to just clone the whole thing (I have two Windows partitions and two Linux ones.) |
| 21:09.54 | PegasusRPG | And "creating the file systems" for the Windows system disk entails re-installing Windows. |
| 21:10.57 | PegasusRPG | I guess I need FS-aware cloning software |
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| 21:11.30 | zinx | you can use gparted to move partitions, but you will probably have to run a windows utility to make windows boot again |
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| 21:13.13 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: There's also partclone, available on the Clonezilla live CD. |
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| 21:13.40 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: I've had good luck cloning Windows systems with that. |
| 21:14.09 | tehrabbitt | jhutchins++ partclone ftw |
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| 21:14.15 | PegasusRPG | jhutchins: do you know if it handles LUKS partitions too? |
| 21:15.11 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: I' |
| 21:15.23 | PegasusRPG | I forgot about Clonezilla, thanks |
| 21:15.26 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: I'm pretty sure it's content-agnostic, it just copies data. |
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| 21:16.03 | jhutchins | PegasusRPG: AFIK there's nothing location-dependent in LUKS, but I'm not actually familiar with it. |
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| 21:16.46 | PegasusRPG | It just needs the whole entire partition to be copied of course |
| 21:16.55 | PegasusRPG | okay, I'll give that a try. Thanks again |
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| 21:56.11 | jordila_ | hi #debian community , i cannot retrieve any package ... se sources.list and log here https://pad.riseup.net/p/dev8-packages-problem , what am i missing ? |
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| 21:58.28 | mutante | jordila_: run "apt-get update" in between |
| 21:58.43 | mutante | to fetch the package lists |
| 21:58.57 | jordila_ | same result |
| 21:59.30 | jordila_ | i've tried different repos...too, just in case. Same result. |
| 22:00.44 | mutante | jordila_: you have jessie/updates but not sometihng like: |
| 22:01.06 | mutante | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib |
| 22:01.24 | mutante | where it says just jessie vs. jessie/updates |
| 22:01.44 | jordila_ | ah |
| 22:01.52 | jordila_ | stupid of me :-P |
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| 22:03.09 | jordila_ | done :-) |
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| 22:15.22 | mayhew | I chose a generic kernel when I installed Debian. Are there any practical advantages to switching to a targeted kernel? |
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| 22:36.07 | zaltekk | how do i determine if i am running the latest kernel? i see the latest dsa for linux, but it doesn't seem that straight forward. i see 3.16.0-4-amd64 from uname -r matches apt-cache show linux-image-amd64, but it seems that i'm not getting the full story |
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| 22:38.32 | zaltekk | in the dsa i see 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u2 for linux, but i can't use apt-cache show on that package name. i see that i have that string minus the +deb8u2 in uname -a |
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| 23:12.03 | choro | do you think (in windows) using the built in OS utilities to burn the debian netinst iso to a CD is sufficient enough to make an install CD? |
| 23:12.46 | TomTomTosch | !win32diskimager |
| 23:12.47 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 23:13.33 | TomTomTosch | this is the recommended way. can't tell about the utils built into windows. |
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| 23:14.39 | mtn | choro: if you are making a cd, any decent cd burner should work, as long as it is burned so to make a bootable disk, not just a data disk |
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