| 00:00.20 | janemba | jelly: oh |
| 00:00.36 | jelly | janemba, pastebin also: "systemctl status nfs-common" |
| 00:00.41 | janemba | jelly: ok |
| 00:01.48 | janemba | jelly: http://pastebin.com/GniBPc2j |
| 00:01.55 | janemba | jelly: seems portmap is needed |
| 00:02.35 | jelly | janemba, rpcbind implements the "portmapper" thing nfs-common needs. |
| 00:03.11 | jelly | janemba, try to restart nfs-common, then try "rpcinfo -p localhost" and "systemctl status nfs-common" again |
| 00:03.28 | janemba | ok |
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| 00:04.35 | janemba | http://pastebin.com/MRXM2yLs |
| 00:06.53 | jelly | that seems a bit better, try your mount again |
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| 00:09.38 | janemba | hmm |
| 00:09.40 | janemba | same error |
| 00:10.25 | jelly | what is the exact command line you're using? |
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| 00:12.41 | janemba | mount -t nfs ip:/path/foo /mnt |
| 00:12.54 | janemba | I know the command is correct as it works on another box |
| 00:13.42 | jelly | that's not the exact command. |
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| 00:14.13 | jelly | I can't tell whether your mount point is really /mnt or something else. |
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| 00:19.20 | janemba | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.43 | janemba | the error says "mount.nfs: no such device" |
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| 00:24.28 | miesco | Hi. Is there any possible threats when sshing to a known host from a public wifi? |
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| 00:38.07 | Artemis3 | miesco, sure, someone knows you are doing an encrypted connection, don't do it in China. |
| 00:39.55 | ronkrt | How do I configure my WiFi |
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| 00:43.33 | sm00th | hello all, is there a way to shrink an encrypted ext4 root partition? |
| 00:44.30 | curtis22 | yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions |
| 00:44.32 | ronkrt | ): |
| 00:45.08 | sm00th | curtis22, tks |
| 00:46.01 | curtis22 | sm00th: no problem |
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| 00:46.24 | sm00th | curtis22, can I use any livecd, or should it be a debian one? |
| 00:46.33 | extor | ran a fresh install of debian 8, however the only package selection menu he was presented with was this, http://i.imgur.com/6fgOpuU.png |
| 00:47.57 | sm00th | extor, what iso you use? |
| 00:48.07 | curtis22 | i did it with debian jessie (same as the installed os ) |
| 00:48.19 | extor | suspects that when two conditions are present, firstly no network connectivity during a fresh install and secondly the only installation media being CD1(not DVD1) of debian8 that perhaps due to the lack of window managers on CD1 there is no further choices of a window manager presented to the installer ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 00:48.27 | ronkrt | How do I manually choose my Wi-Fi network as root in cmd? |
| 00:48.38 | sm00th | but I mean what specific iso file, and di you check the hash? |
| 00:49.47 | extor | Let me retrieve the exact url of the iso file |
| 00:50.01 | sm00th | what if you try with the non graphical install mode. |
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| 00:50.42 | extor | http://cdimage.debian.o |
| 00:50.42 | extor | rg/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 00:50.58 | extor | has tried it with the non graphical as well as the graphical method |
| 00:52.17 | ronkrt | Extor my install has the same options only aswell |
| 00:52.42 | extor | ronkrt, there was another person a coule of hours ago who had the same issue |
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| 00:53.04 | extor | <miesco> How come I have hardly any packages in my new install? |
| 00:53.24 | sm00th | you guys verify the hash or sig? |
| 00:53.26 | ronkrt | I can't figure out how to setup my Wi-Fi I'm in the ps4 it installed ok |
| 00:53.33 | extor | ronkrt, but did your install give you an X window manager? |
| 00:53.41 | ronkrt | Yes |
| 00:54.00 | ronkrt | But i have no app to doo Wi-Fi |
| 00:54.06 | extor | recalls running a CD scan during install which verifies the integrity of all listed packages |
| 00:54.38 | sm00th | I would check the sig too |
| 00:55.10 | sm00th | or i mean with debian check the sig of the hashfile and then check the hash lol |
| 00:55.19 | ronkrt | Anyone know how to setup Wi-Fi from cmd |
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| 00:55.49 | sm00th | ronkrt, netctl I guess |
| 00:55.53 | ronkrt | I'm on my phone atm so it would be useful info for me |
| 00:56.00 | ronkrt | Lemme try |
| 00:56.22 | extor | 443272aea9729ce281a1bc5b258a4243 debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso |
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| 00:56.36 | ronkrt | Not found |
| 00:57.04 | extor | I assume if the checksum of the entire iso is OK, then the sigs of each package have to be OK too |
| 00:57.18 | sm00th | extor, ya |
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| 00:57.34 | ikla | can you do batch commands with grub2? |
| 00:57.51 | wildbills | ronkrt iwconfig |
| 00:57.53 | RoyK | why? |
| 00:57.56 | extor | From what I recall those are some of the new features of grub2 |
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| 00:58.13 | ikla | grub 1 I did grub --batch < command_file |
| 00:58.18 | ikla | to easily configure bootloader |
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| 00:58.22 | ikla | can you still do that in 2? |
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| 00:58.43 | ronkrt | Great |
| 00:59.00 | ronkrt | I dunno how to use it:( |
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| 00:59.43 | sm00th | ronkrt, do you prefer to use a de? |
| 00:59.57 | ronkrt | Dr? |
| 01:00.05 | ronkrt | De? |
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| 01:00.28 | wildbills | ronkrt iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed essid 'my_network' key 'xxxxxxxx' |
| 01:00.32 | sm00th | desktop environment, like kde, gnome, etc... |
| 01:00.45 | extor | #grub would know |
| 01:01.50 | sm00th | ronkrt, you can just use an iso that comes with it. I use the kde iso. |
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| 01:03.07 | sm00th | extor, this paage might be helpful https://duckduckgo.com/html?t=disconnect&q=setup+wireless+arch+wiki |
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| 01:03.31 | sm00th | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration |
| 01:04.22 | ronkrt | I have the kde cd |
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| 01:04.43 | ronkrt | Tx_power=off. Good or bad? |
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| 01:06.01 | extor | sm00th, I wasnt the one having wifi issues, that was ronkrt |
| 01:06.34 | extor | was simply installing in a vmware virtual machine with no network access(unusual in these times) |
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| 01:08.26 | ronkrt | How do I tell it to use dhcp? |
| 01:08.46 | extor | In my case it assumed I was using dhcp by default |
| 01:09.32 | extor | this was after detecting a hard eth0 however, not a wifi interface but I assume the rules apply there too |
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| 01:15.26 | wildbills | ronkrt dhclient wlan0 |
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| 01:16.01 | DoNotBeGay | I am the messenger of His Majesty the Great Clown, Allah himself |
| 01:16.08 | DoNotBeGay | We must cleanse the world of fags, jews, niggers, and pigs |
| 01:17.42 | jmcnaught | !ops DoNotBeGay |
| 01:17.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: DoNotBeGay |
| 01:18.01 | sm00th | extor, lol my bad |
| 01:18.32 | sm00th | extor, in these times you always gotta verify the iso its so crazy, maybe debian wants you to download de iso if you want one i dunno. weird. |
| 01:19.26 | sm00th | extor, wanna hear something weird. everytime I install the kde iso, its a diff mouse cursor theme/color |
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| 01:33.43 | b3d0u1n | I'm pretty sure that I'm missing something obvious, but where does Wheezy keep the list of NTP servers it syncs with? My time accurate, so I know it's syncing with something. |
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| 01:47.10 | b3d0u1n | So, these wheezy "machines" are running in VMs on a Squeeze box. The Squeeze box has NTP installed. The VMs were getting their time from the hardware clock. That explains why I could not find the ntp settings on the wheezy vms. |
| 01:47.26 | b3d0u1n | (ticket closed) |
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| 02:11.15 | Tenacious-Techhu | Anyone know how to recover a recently deleted file from the SD Card the OS is being run from? |
| 02:11.53 | Bennux | Hi, I recommend to use photorec |
| 02:12.30 | Bennux | installing the package "testdisk" |
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| 02:46.26 | Tenacious-Techhu | Is photorec going to find text files? |
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| 02:53.52 | Bennux | yes, photorec recovery all type of files on the Drive. |
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| 02:57.04 | Bennux | But i no have idea how to select an specific folder, only select the type of file to recovery |
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| 02:58.18 | awal1 | Tenacious-Techhu, photorec may not recover the whole content but around 80/90% usually... |
| 02:59.34 | Tenacious-Techhu | I was trying to use debugfs earlier, but it was confusing as hell. |
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| 03:45.54 | jmcnaught | Elronnd: because it is a dependency of the gnome-core package, which is a meta-package that depends on other packages that together compose a GNOME desktop |
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| 03:46.56 | jmcnaught | Elronnd: removing the gnome-core and task-gnome-desktop packages won't actually remove gnome, but if you don't have the meta-packages you might not automatically get new gnome-core dependencies during an upgrade (if they change) |
| 03:46.57 | Elronnd | And if I want to use another browser with GNOME like, say...Waterfox, qutebrowser, or chromium, tough luck I can't free up that disk space without annoying the package manager? |
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| 03:47.51 | jmcnaught | Elronnd: also it doesn't really take up that much space. besides it's good to have two browsers installed, so you can research how to fix one if it breaks |
| 03:48.14 | Elronnd | I intend to have no less than three browsers installed |
| 03:48.17 | Elronnd | possibly four |
| 03:48.33 | Elronnd | plus a few text-based ones |
| 03:48.44 | jmcnaught | firefox-esr and chromium are the only browsers on jessie that are covered by security support |
| 03:49.01 | Elronnd | I'm on stretch |
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| 03:49.36 | jmcnaught | in that case you may want to keep the gnome meta-packages in case changes happen to their dependencies during the development cycle |
| 03:50.01 | jmcnaught | stretch by the way is usually the last to get security updates |
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| 04:05.25 | Pied_ | Hello |
| 04:05.29 | Pied_ | I am making a Raspberry Pi Keyboard. My script for the buttons uses Python. My program works perfectly. Problem is when I click a button, a letter is only outputted If I am using the window that I executed the program with. How can I make it so I run my program, and when ever I press a button it will output the letter to what ever program I am currently using like a real keyboard? |
| 04:05.32 | Pied_ | Code: http://hastebin.com/iyaqafijug.avrasm |
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| 04:19.15 | mutante | i installed a fresh jessie on this Dell R420. let it setup software RAID1. installer finishes..then on first boot..fail. mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found. cant detect disks.. with 4.4 kernel. then i go to grub, see i can select a 3.16 kernel too and with that it boots just fine... how do i make the 3.16 kernel the default in grub for now until that is fixed. grub v2 and all the menuentry lines are generated by those scripts..sigh |
| 04:21.24 | mutante | i even got to: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' already :p |
| 04:21.24 | cra1g321 | why do you have 4.4 kernel if you're on jessie ? |
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| 04:24.20 | mutante | cra1g321: oooh. eh, because the local install server gave it to me when i selected "jessie-installer" |
| 04:25.01 | mutante | linux-image-4.4.0-1-amd64 |
| 04:25.40 | mutante | i got the linux-meta-4.4 package |
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| 04:33.51 | latemus | i'v configured eth0 to use ipv4, but many services still listen on ipv6. How do i disable ipv6 _entirely_ in debian 8.5? |
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| 04:36.02 | latemus | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6 doesn't seem to do what i need |
| 04:36.37 | latemus | how do i configure debian so that it doesn't even start using ipv6 during boot? |
| 04:37.03 | latemus | blacklist a module? the debian administrator guide doesnt say much about ipv3 |
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| 04:37.14 | latemus | .. nor ipv6 |
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| 04:38.42 | latemus | i assume debian's default kernel build has ipv6 support compiled in? |
| 04:39.52 | bhurstpdx1 | it does |
| 04:40.11 | latemus | i deduced that from the absence of a loaded module |
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| 04:45.22 | latemus | 1. i tell /proc to disable ipv6. 2. service network restart. 3. netstat -lntup still shows services listening, will they do that even with ipv6 disabled in the kernel? |
| 04:46.20 | latemus | hm, i just found /etc/netconfig |
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| 04:47.09 | Pied_ | Hello |
| 04:47.11 | Pied_ | I am making a Raspberry Pi Keyboard. My script for the buttons uses Python. My program works perfectly. Problem is when I click a button, a letter is only outputted If I am using the window that I executed the program with. How can I make it so I run my program, and when ever I press a button it will output the letter to what ever program I am currently using like a real keyboard? |
| 04:47.12 | Pied_ | Code: http://hastebin.com/iyaqafijug.avrasm |
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| 05:16.52 | tom99 | i clicked all the options on the install menu for debian jessie 8.5 disc 1 DVD |
| 05:16.57 | tom99 | yet cmake wasn't installed |
| 05:17.12 | tom99 | then when I typed apt-get install cmake on a fresh install it's asking me to insert the dvd |
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| 05:17.21 | tom99 | how do I get all the packages on the dvd disc 1installed? |
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| 05:21.28 | bhurstpdx1 | bd |
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| 05:40.06 | Fat-Zer | Pied_: I believe you are looking for a way to injet a key press events into input subsystem, right? |
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| 05:41.12 | Fat-Zer | Pied_: dunno how to do it with python, but on system level you just open /dev/uinput and wright specially formated data there |
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| 05:43.51 | Fat-Zer | probably there is some python module to do that... |
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| 05:54.18 | Dongyancai | Hello, I followed the instructions in https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains#For_jessie_.28Debian_8.29 , and tried to perform `sudo dpkg --add-architecture powerpcspe ; sudo apt-get update`, but got message as http://lpaste.net/170735. Can I continue ignoring such message? I want to create a cross-compilation environment for e300v2 (P2020). I have installed dpkg-dev and `dpkg-architecture -L` includes |
| 05:54.24 | Dongyancai | "powerpcspe". |
| 05:54.38 | [1]tom99 | how do I install all the software from the debian CD? |
| 05:54.40 | [1]tom99 | er DVD |
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| 05:57.09 | b6s3d | hi, how do i change resolv.conf permanent |
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| 05:58.22 | OtakuSenpai | [1]tom99: you do tht during the os installation process |
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| 05:59.02 | OtakuSenpai | but you dont need all of the dvds,you can install required software later with synaptic or apt |
| 05:59.51 | ransur0t | b6s3d: what software do you require specifically? once determined, search in synaptic, or https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 06:02.13 | b6s3d | i think i fixed it :) |
| 06:02.20 | b6s3d | ransur0t |
| 06:02.29 | b6s3d | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:03.46 | ransur0t | :) |
| 06:03.48 | [1]tom99 | otakusenpai: I did. it didn't install emacs though i checked everything but webserver |
| 06:03.51 | aedinius | Okay, I need to scrollback now: why did making resolv.conf immutable fix the issue |
| 06:04.06 | OtakuSenpai | apt-cache search emacs |
| 06:04.07 | ransur0t | [1]tom99: what software do you require specifically? once determined, search in synaptic, or https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 06:04.22 | [1]tom99 | well it asked me to insert the DVD |
| 06:04.38 | [1]tom99 | so i don't want to piecemeal just install things from the dvd and leave it in, i'd rather it install most of the dvd like I asked it to |
| 06:04.56 | aedinius | b6s3d: let's find the root cause... what's happening with resolv.conf? what changes are happening to it? i'm guessing you're setting a custom DNS and it's getting overwritten by DHCP or something? |
| 06:05.05 | OtakuSenpai | were did you get tht notice? |
| 06:05.05 | OtakuSenpai | [1]tom99* |
| 06:05.43 | OtakuSenpai | i didnt install anything from the dvds...i just got it via apt,and it works fine [1]tom99 |
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| 06:05.58 | ransur0t | tom99: aptitude search emacs |
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| 06:06.10 | OtakuSenpai | i suppose you hav installed debian os? |
| 06:06.17 | OtakuSenpai | *[1]tom99 |
| 06:06.29 | b6s3d | aedinius: yeah that sounds about right |
| 06:06.30 | ransur0t | i have recently switched to aptitude from apt and and liking it |
| 06:06.58 | b6s3d | i have a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 06:08.08 | aedinius | b6s3d: what are you using to configure network? if you're using /etc/network/interfaces, you can set the nameserver with dns-nameservers |
| 06:09.11 | tom99 | now i can't install w3m-el package with apt |
| 06:09.14 | b6s3d | dns-nameservers x.x.x.x x.x.x.x. ? |
| 06:09.17 | tom99 | even though it says its referred to by another package |
| 06:09.24 | b6s3d | or x.x.x.x, x.x.x.x; |
| 06:09.35 | aedinius | b6s3d: yes. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#A.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces |
| 06:09.44 | tom99 | yes i just installed debian jesse 8.5 with the first dvd disc |
| 06:10.03 | aedinius | b6s3d: dns-nameservers 12.34.56.78 12.34.56.79 |
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| 06:10.12 | b6s3d | alright that is already done |
| 06:10.21 | b6s3d | how do i check my dns? |
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| 06:10.36 | OtakuSenpai | ajust type su >>your passwd>> apt-get install emacs |
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| 06:11.03 | aedinius | b6s3d: well, when it sets the interface up, it should automatically set the /etc/resolv.conf |
| 06:11.34 | b6s3d | i removed the link, any alternatives? |
| 06:11.42 | aedinius | removed the link? |
| 06:12.15 | ransur0t | tom99: OtakuSenpai: perhaps the issue with "insert dvd" is that the line for cd/dvd source is not muted in /etc/apt/sources.list ... |
| 06:12.54 | ransur0t | tom99: i suggest checking your repository configuration in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:13.35 | tom99 | ransur0t: i did, it has the debian cdrom listed and then the same line but commented out |
| 06:13.52 | tom99 | anyway i have no idea how to install emacs-w3m except by manually downloading and compiling |
| 06:13.59 | tom99 | so i guess i'll do that |
| 06:14.10 | ransur0t | tom99: both lines for cd should be commented out |
| 06:14.17 | tom99 | kk |
| 06:14.58 | ransur0t | and make sure you've got a good http source for jessie repos, main, contrib, non-free, etc. |
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| 06:15.11 | tom99 | just says main contrib free i think |
| 06:15.32 | tom99 | er |
| 06:15.54 | ransur0t | should be all set then, once cd repo lines are disabled |
| 06:15.55 | tom99 | it only has security.debian.org for jessie/updates, contrib, and main |
| 06:16.13 | tom99 | anyway emacs-w3m and w3m-el are both not to be found bleh |
| 06:16.20 | tom99 | it worked in wheezy |
| 06:16.30 | ransur0t | take a look here: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/emacs |
| 06:16.49 | ransur0t | see if you can track down a missing dependency or component |
| 06:16.52 | tom99 | it says package w3m-el is not available, but is referred to by another package |
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| 06:17.55 | tom99 | the web search you linked me to says w3m-el is available |
| 06:17.59 | tom99 | for jessie |
| 06:18.09 | tom99 | jessie (stable) (lisp): simple Emacs interface of w3m |
| 06:18.09 | tom99 | 1.4.483+0.20120614-8: all |
| 06:18.09 | tom99 | also provided by: w3m-el-snapshot |
| 06:18.29 | b6s3d | aedinius: ctrl+f chattr https://superuser.com/questions/677343/how-to-make-name-server-address-permanent-in-etc-resolv-conf |
| 06:19.01 | ransur0t | do you have synaptic installed? if so, search emacs there and ensure all packages you require are checked, then do the install |
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| 06:19.13 | tom99 | how do i tell what repo to add to get this? package.debian.org? |
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| 06:20.06 | tom99 | well synaptic not found as normal user. but when i switched to root and typed 'synaptic' it started up |
| 06:20.09 | tom99 | is that what is expected? |
| 06:20.19 | ransur0t | yes, requires root to run |
| 06:20.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | tom99, a) need to run "apt-get update" after changing sources.list. b) why don't you put the result of tail -n99 /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* on http://paste.debian.net as well as the command you run that gives you an error and the error (and probably will need the output of " apt-cache policy " as well) |
| 06:20.31 | ransur0t | your repo's should be all set |
| 06:21.56 | OtakuSenpai | tom99: synaptic or apt both start as root user |
| 06:22.11 | OtakuSenpai | both of them require root privileges |
| 06:22.35 | OtakuSenpai | for changing the packages and the root directory |
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| 06:23.14 | OtakuSenpai | beware of which programs you give your root priveleges btw |
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| 06:23.18 | ransur0t | sudo apt-get update && apt-get install emacs |
| 06:23.20 | tom99 | cutmeownthroat: paste.debian.net/783481 |
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| 06:23.46 | tom99 | the command is `apt-get install w3m-el` |
| 06:24.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's missing the main repo(s) |
| 06:24.55 | ransur0t | your sources.list needs the repo entries for jessie-updates main contrib uncommented! |
| 06:24.55 | tom99 | it's a fresh install |
| 06:25.00 | tom99 | what repos is it supposed to have |
| 06:25.12 | ransur0t | tom99: see my previous comment |
| 06:25.37 | tom99 | it says i didn't select a network mirror during install |
| 06:25.49 | tom99 | is that why it's not working as expected? |
| 06:26.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell tom99 about jessie sources.list |
| 06:26.13 | ransur0t | definitely part of it ... as I mentioned earlier, if you had a mirror properly setup during install ... |
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| 06:26.50 | tom99 | i didn't realize that was expected |
| 06:27.03 | aedinius | b6s3d: chattr for that seems like an xy problem -- it doesn't solve the root issue |
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| 06:27.08 | ransur0t | no prob man :) |
| 06:27.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | you have the security.debian.org line, but you're lacking deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main |
| 06:27.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | (or deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free ) |
| 06:27.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | up to you if you want the contrib and non-free repositories enabled or not |
| 06:27.58 | OtakuSenpai | http://paste.debian.net/783482/ |
| 06:28.09 | OtakuSenpai | heres my source.list.... |
| 06:28.34 | OtakuSenpai | your should look like this type a too |
| 06:28.48 | tom99 | ah ok i've never seen that httpredir.debian.org/debian url before |
| 06:28.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | non-free obviously has non-free things, contrib has free software that depends on non-free things in some way |
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| 06:29.12 | ransur0t | tom99: see http://www.debian.org/mirror/list to choose most suitable one for you |
| 06:30.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | OtakuSenpai, only you have the repo formerly known as volatile in there twice, one time from denmark servers, one time from US servers |
| 06:30.30 | b6s3d | aedinius: what do you suggest? |
| 06:30.50 | aedinius | b6s3d: figure out what's changing the resolv.conf and why |
| 06:31.10 | OtakuSenpai | yes i had problems downloading from the denmark servers sometime back,so i added the us ones too |
| 06:31.20 | b6s3d | how do i add the symbolic link again "chattr -a" ? |
| 06:31.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | tom99, it's some newish thing that automatically gives you the best server from the dns lookup... you're in the US, if it ever gives you problems, use deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 06:31.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | b6s3d, what? |
| 06:31.51 | aedinius | b6s3d: ignore chattr, it's not the right approach. |
| 06:31.52 | tom99 | ok i added those two lines that dpkg suggested. |
| 06:31.57 | tom99 | gonna run apt-get update, sec |
| 06:32.20 | b6s3d | i deleted the symbolic link, don't you think i should make it again? |
| 06:32.35 | tom99 | ok thanks cutmeownthroat |
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| 06:32.54 | aedinius | b6s3d: what symbolic link? |
| 06:32.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | yw |
| 06:33.00 | tom99 | what's the difference between jessie-updates and jessie/updates? |
| 06:33.03 | aedinius | /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symbolic link on my machine |
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| 06:34.45 | b6s3d | "sudo resolvconf -u" = "/etc/resolvconf/update.d/lib: Warning: /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf |
| 06:34.50 | b6s3d | " |
| 06:35.36 | aedinius | if you set everything in interfaces then it should automatically set resolv.conf |
| 06:35.44 | aedinius | are you getting settings that you shouldn't? |
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| 06:36.15 | tom99 | ok thanks cutmeownthroat |
| 06:36.24 | tom99 | now when I do `apt-get install w3m-el` it finds it and works |
| 06:36.46 | b6s3d | aedinius: nope, i did " sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" now i want to regret it |
| 06:37.37 | OtakuSenpai | chattr is a irc client i suppose,b6s3d |
| 06:37.42 | aedinius | ... then chattr -i |
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| 06:37.59 | b6s3d | no, no its not |
| 06:37.59 | b6s3d | no |
| 06:38.00 | aedinius | OtakuSenpai: ?? |
| 06:38.09 | OtakuSenpai | no nvr mind thn |
| 06:38.13 | b6s3d | stop making no sense |
| 06:38.15 | b6s3d | no |
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| 06:38.29 | b6s3d | http://forums.openmediavault.org/index.php/Thread/8942-etc-resolvconf-update-d-libc-Warning-etc-resolv-conf-is-not-a-symbolic-link-to-e/ |
| 06:40.09 | tom99 | ok i don't mean to sound weird here |
| 06:40.10 | tom99 | but |
| 06:40.22 | tom99 | is there a list of common linux software i can tell apt-get to go and download? |
| 06:40.34 | tom99 | I just typed `apt-get install autoconf` and now it's downloading it.... -_- |
| 06:41.04 | OtakuSenpai | autoconf is a package |
| 06:41.06 | tom99 | at least i don't have to type `apt-get install gcc` |
| 06:41.17 | OtakuSenpai | for c++ devs i guess |
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| 06:41.44 | tom99 | well yes that's the main reason i downloaded jessie in the first place |
| 06:42.19 | tom99 | to be blunt i expect all this to be installed already so |
| 06:42.26 | tom99 | i mean if i have to install a bunch of stuff ok |
| 06:42.26 | OtakuSenpai | which packages you want,say A n B n C,type apt-get install A B C ... |
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| 06:42.32 | tom99 | well everything i need for c++ |
| 06:42.37 | tom99 | i already did autoconf, cmake |
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| 06:42.45 | OtakuSenpai | wait |
| 06:42.50 | tom99 | i just expect those to be install because i clicked most of the boxes on the debian dvd install screen |
| 06:43.19 | alea123 | how can i check why mysql uses 52% of my cpu? |
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| 06:43.25 | tom99 | anyway it's pointless to assign blame now |
| 06:43.37 | tom99 | i guess i just need to figure out what packages i need |
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| 06:44.26 | Elirips | tom99: try to stick your left thumb into the usb-port: aptitude will then read your mind and install everything you need |
| 06:44.58 | alea123 | the only thing i found in logs is: postfix/cleanup[474]: warning: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf lookup error for "root@xxxx.xxxx.xx" |
| 06:45.18 | b6s3d | chattr +i pretty much solved my sudo apt-get problem |
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| 06:46.07 | OtakuSenpai | you can prune wht you want |
| 06:46.17 | tom99 | lol ok th anks OtakuSenpai |
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| 06:54.34 | aedinius | b6s3d: it may have worked around a problem that was causing problems with apt ... |
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| 06:59.34 | alea123 | mysql has 52% cpu load and other 48% have apache2 processes... any chance to check why? |
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| 07:06.37 | Elirips | alea123: seems one of your webpage is running a lot of queries against mysql. You could try to stop apache and check if mysql loads drops to almost 0%. If yes, you only need to identify which page is causing the load |
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| 07:09.17 | alea123 | Elirips: i think its about owncloud. because its one of two sites on the whole server. but i cant check why its so high... it started yesterday... and everytime i restart mysqld apache2 processes will explode with cpu-load. i havent ran any updates or installed apps in the last time, so there cant be a problem with new/updated apps. but i will try to stop apache |
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| 07:10.38 | alea123 | Elirips: yes, if i stop apache2 servers cpu load is at 1% |
| 07:11.08 | alea123 | if i start apache2 mysqld is exploding to 52% |
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| 07:12.40 | Elirips | alea123: what do the apache logs say? or try with apachetop to identify what is causing the load, here is a sample: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/monitor-your-website-in-real-time-with-apachetop/ |
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| 07:13.24 | alea123 | Elirips: let me take a look at apaches logs |
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| 07:16.08 | alea123 | Elirips: apache access and error logs are fine. nothing strange in it |
| 07:16.16 | alea123 | will try apachetop |
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| 07:17.21 | Elirips | alea123: also note there is chanel #httpd - maybe the apache experts in there can give you some usefull hints |
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| 07:23.46 | alea123 | Elirips: thanks :) will try in #httpd too... also tried in #owncloud, but no answers till now |
| 07:23.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | tom99, you probably want apt-get install build-essential (if you want to build programs) |
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| 07:26.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | tom99, and for any package "packagename", that is already in debian, you can install the build dependencies with apt-get build-dep packagename |
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| 07:36.31 | alea123 | Elirips: current server status htop: http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/31252786/htop.png & apachetop: http://pastebin.com/ELe5Y79U ... dont know why... :( it started yesterday... no problems before... |
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| 07:41.26 | fsociety[00]dat | I am user in group "sudo" and sudoers file says allow member of group sudo but it returns with user not in sudoers file. |
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| 07:43.12 | fsociety[00]dat | What is the problem? |
| 07:43.14 | ransur0t | logout/login |
| 07:43.19 | fsociety[00]dat | did it |
| 07:43.19 | ransur0t | or reboot |
| 07:43.23 | fsociety[00]dat | did it |
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| 07:44.23 | ransur0t | hmm, are you editihg directly on sudoers file, or using desktop gui for users? |
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| 07:44.55 | fsociety[00]dat | EDITOR=nano visudo |
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| 07:45.39 | ransur0t | paste content? |
| 07:45.41 | fsociety[00]dat | only uncomment the "allow group sudo..." |
| 07:45.43 | fsociety[00]dat | ok |
| 07:45.46 | eitzei | Does that row on the sudoers file start with % ? I have deleted that once |
| 07:46.43 | fsociety[00]dat | https://bpaste.net/show/956e3ecb3993 < ransur0t |
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| 07:47.44 | centurion18 | !nodm |
| 07:47.44 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
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| 07:48.27 | ransur0t | fsociety[00]dat: sorry, my access is blocked to that paste site. perhaps paste.debian ... |
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| 07:50.14 | fsociety[00]dat | http://paste.debian.net/783497/ < ransur0t |
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| 07:50.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | alea123, there should be log messages in apache... if not in error log, then in access log... |
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| 07:51.41 | ransur0t | fsociety[00]dat: thanks. looks like you've just allowed any user part of sudo group to execute any command (rather than a command by command basis). |
| 07:51.51 | ransur0t | so you still need to add yourself to the sudo group |
| 07:52.31 | fsociety[00]dat | ransur0t, cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner bluetooth |
| 07:52.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | although... one request every 10 seconds according to apachetop |
| 07:53.11 | alea123 | CutMeOwnThroat: there are only default access entries .. rly nothing special... i checked the access.log twice. error.log is clearly empty, only a few entries from my install in march |
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| 07:54.41 | ransur0t | hmm, strange. so output of <username> sudo lists you? |
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| 07:55.29 | fsociety[00]dat | yep |
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| 07:57.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | alea123, hm, actually look in normal logs (/var/log/messages, dmesg) |
| 07:57.20 | fsociety[00]dat | ransur0t, I add the use like "adduser <username> sudo" |
| 07:57.26 | fsociety[00]dat | *user |
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| 07:58.09 | ransur0t | yeah, seems like everything should be ok, unless there is a higher level user/group permission in place |
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| 08:00.50 | alea123 | CutMeOwnThroat: hm thanks... i think i got it... too many sql connections from froxlor |
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| 08:01.19 | alea123 | froxlor[7735]: SQLSTATE[08004] [1040] Too many connections |
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| 08:01.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's froxlor |
| 08:02.38 | alea123 | a webapplication of my hoster to manage customers in webspaces |
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| 08:03.25 | alea123 | but also in their forums i am the only one with this problem :/ |
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| 08:04.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | ask the mysql server what it's busy with... http://www.jetprofiler.com/blog/5/query-profiling-using-show-processlist/ http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/server-status-variables.html |
| 08:05.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | also... disk error messages would maybe make sense |
| 08:05.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | if mysql threads hang trying to write... |
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| 08:08.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | how many sql connections is it configured to anyway |
| 08:08.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | could try increasing the number |
| 08:09.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | alea123, what does df -h show? |
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| 08:15.01 | alea123 | CutMeOwnThroat: size: 229G, used: 73G, available: 145G, use%: 34% |
| 08:15.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's only one disk? |
| 08:16.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well. if the disk mysql writes things to was simply full... |
| 08:17.00 | alea123 | rootfs, udev, tmpfs, /dev/foo/bar/, tmpfs, tmpfs... its a vserver |
| 08:17.07 | alea123 | but it isnt full |
| 08:17.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | not >90% either? |
| 08:17.34 | alea123 | used in %: 34% |
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| 08:18.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems the only interesting command from that jetprofiler page is "show processes" |
| 08:18.24 | alea123 | diskspace: 229G ... used diskspace: 73G ... available free diskspace: 145G |
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| 08:19.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | time for me to go. good luck |
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| 08:20.19 | alea123 | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks anyway :) |
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| 08:51.33 | afx_ | Hello ! How can I have my machine act as ntp server ? I have installed ntp (aptitude ntp) . Is there any special configuration I have to make to act as ntp server? |
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| 08:55.16 | imint | #debian |
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| 08:57.39 | afx_ | Do I need the ntp-server package too ? |
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| 09:41.20 | afx_ | hello ! How can I setup my debian box to act as an ntp server . I have installed ntp ( w. aptitude ntp ). Do I have to make any special configuration for this? Also how can I view the ntp clients connected to my machine |
| 09:43.19 | koollman | afx_: I think it is : ntpdc -c monlist |
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| 09:44.00 | ransur0t | afx_: give these references a look: http://www.tecmint.com/install-and-configure-ntp-server-client-in-debian/ and http://www.debianadmin.com/ntp-server-and-client-configuration-in-debian.html |
| 09:46.11 | afx_ | k will try that |
| 09:46.15 | afx_ | thank you both |
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| 09:46.21 | ransur0t | yw |
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| 09:46.51 | saunamees | Anyone tested ssh tunneled nfs / encrypted nfs against sshfs ? |
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| 09:53.14 | SynrGy | saunamees: my limited experience with tunnels and filesystems is that each layer adds considerable overhead/latency, and generally leads to a poor experience. |
| 09:53.42 | SynrGy | saunamees: i cannot speak for these specific combinations, but it sounds like something i wouldn't want to try :) |
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| 10:00.41 | BadPractice | hi, i tried to get docker running with aufs on debian jessie with aufs. How to get aufs running |
| 10:00.47 | BadPractice | ? |
| 10:01.55 | SynrGy | i'm not sure what you mean. can you be more specific? also, be aware that aufs is no longer present in stretch, nor in a jessie-backports kernel. |
| 10:02.24 | BadPractice | SynrGy: and how should i get docker running then? |
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| 10:02.25 | SynrGy | so going forward, you need to consider your migration strategy, rather than building on a technology that will soon be replaced. |
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| 10:02.42 | SynrGy | i can't help with docker. i merely repeat to you what i know about aufs. |
| 10:03.09 | SynrGy | also, your question lacks the precision needed for others here that do know about docker to assist. |
| 10:03.17 | BadPractice | SynrGy: this is so wired. Docker needs it. Modern server need docker and it gets thrown out of debian? |
| 10:03.30 | SynrGy | not "thrown out of debian" ... |
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| 10:03.38 | SynrGy | upstream (the linux kernel) dropped it a long time ago |
| 10:03.50 | SynrGy | debian kept it via patches for much longer than upstream did. |
| 10:04.06 | SynrGy | in stretch aufs *finally* gets dropped, after keeping it going for as long as they could |
| 10:04.17 | SynrGy | (they == debian kernel maintainers) |
| 10:04.28 | BadPractice | SynrGy: well in that case i probably should not build a system depending on it? |
| 10:04.30 | SynrGy | it is superseded by overlayfs |
| 10:04.44 | SynrGy | i'm not saying you shouldn't. i'm saying its a consideration. |
| 10:04.51 | SynrGy | depending on your *exact* problem, it may be relevant. |
| 10:04.54 | SynrGy | or may not |
| 10:05.01 | SynrGy | i still haven't heard a precise problem statement. |
| 10:05.17 | SynrGy | !doesn't work |
| 10:05.17 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 10:06.46 | BadPractice | SynrGy: well thats basically what docker tould me as error message "does not work" but i found more gimme a sec |
| 10:07.19 | saunamees | SynrGy: How would you do a web app that has to securely transfer files to remote server ? So web app is inside a different network/lan than remote server |
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| 10:07.51 | saunamees | I thought mounting remote server would be the best, but maybe there are some other ways |
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| 10:08.26 | SynrGy | saunamees: i am using sshfs by itself for that purpose in one case. |
| 10:08.45 | SynrGy | saunamees: why would you want to use it in combination with another filesystem? or did i not understand the question exactly? |
| 10:08.54 | saunamees | how is the performance ? 100Mb/s is quaranteed |
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| 10:09.22 | saunamees | well web app is inside a private network, remote server is accessible from all web |
| 10:09.28 | saunamees | so basically file sharing |
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| 10:13.39 | SynrGy | saunamees: i have no figures on this. and it would very per situation anyway. it is what i would call "adequate to my needs" |
| 10:13.43 | SynrGy | i didn't measure |
| 10:14.28 | SynrGy | for bulk transfers it is fine. less satisfactory is situations where quite a number of file accesses are required (e.g. locating a git or svn workspace on sshfs) |
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| 10:14.38 | saunamees | are there any other options that I should look ? |
| 10:14.44 | SynrGy | for a workaround for that, i'm using sshfsexec |
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| 10:15.12 | saunamees | I was looking at Ceph, openAFS, MooseFS, GlusterFS. Not sure how they work yet, but they are distributed fs-s. |
| 10:15.15 | SynrGy | i haven't done a thorough survey of the options. sshfs is the one i know about. |
| 10:15.30 | saunamees | okay, thanks |
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| 10:21.03 | BadPractice | SynrGy: you have any idea how to get aufs up and running on jessie? |
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| 11:26.17 | nuke_ | Hi, just instaled fresh Debian (stabile), try to open libreoffice and get /libsclo.so> failed. |
| 11:26.35 | nuke_ | somone know that error? |
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| 11:27.15 | jelly | nuke_, can you pastebin or screenshot the whole output? |
| 11:27.16 | jelly | !paste |
| 11:27.16 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 11:28.32 | nuke_ | http://pastie.org/10912936 |
| 11:28.55 | teraflops | nuke_: how did you install libreoffice? |
| 11:29.01 | nuke_ | for libreoffice 4.3.3.2 |
| 11:29.12 | nuke_ | by apt-get |
| 11:29.13 | teraflops | that's not what I asked |
| 11:29.15 | teraflops | ah |
| 11:30.02 | teraflops | nuke_: and did you get any errors during the apt-get install? |
| 11:30.07 | ransur0t | nuke_: most likely a dependency version conflict |
| 11:30.30 | nuke_ | didn't seen any |
| 11:30.38 | ransur0t | i ran into something similar with a plugin for vlc. had to build the plugin myself and copy over the .so |
| 11:31.04 | teraflops | nuke_: mind pasting the exact apt command you ran? |
| 11:31.33 | nuke_ | # apt-get install libreoffice |
| 11:31.34 | teraflops | nuke_: also did you apt-get update before installing libreoffice? |
| 11:31.40 | nuke_ | yes |
| 11:32.01 | teraflops | nuke_: tried just reinstalling it? |
| 11:32.05 | nuke_ | yes |
| 11:32.16 | nuke_ | purge also |
| 11:32.25 | teraflops | ok looks like I have no idea whats going on there |
| 11:32.47 | nuke_ | I also XD |
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| 11:33.32 | teraflops | nuke_: mind pasting your sources.list to https://http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 11:35.13 | teraflops | sorry pastefail^ https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 11:35.25 | Iridos | what is the command that leads to that error? |
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| 11:35.46 | Iridos | I'd have much preferred one paste that shows the command run and the error |
| 11:36.15 | nuke_ | http://pastie.org/10912946 |
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| 11:37.02 | Iridos | that's ok |
| 11:37.48 | teraflops | nuke_: yeah what do you run? paste the whole thing as jelly and Iridos suggested |
| 11:38.00 | nuke_ | only when I whant to open calc/writer file I get GUI error |
| 11:38.25 | nuke_ | even strace didnt get error |
| 11:38.41 | ransur0t | run it from command line and take a look at output upon failiure |
| 11:38.48 | nuke_ | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0tp780tlswha9f/AAChY_670RkYfjGKj15fiKWka?dl=0 |
| 11:39.21 | nuke_ | ransur0t: It havent got error in comand line |
| 11:39.41 | ransur0t | hmmm |
| 11:39.50 | nuke_ | libreoffice --writer get no answer in comand line |
| 11:39.50 | teraflops | also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757749 |
| 11:39.51 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/757749 in libreoffice-calc (open, moreinfo, unreproducible): «libreoffice-calc: segfault in libsclo.so»; severity: important; opened: 2014-08-11; last modified: 2016-02-24. |
| 11:41.16 | teraflops | not sure if related but it's the same lib |
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| 11:49.44 | nuke_ | teraflops: not find something interesting in emails |
| 11:50.03 | jelly | nuke_: alright, can you try: "/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice --calc" from a terminal |
| 11:50.25 | jelly | does it open successfully? |
| 11:50.47 | jelly | (with a new window with an empty document) |
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| 11:52.23 | nuke_ | a |
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| 11:52.33 | nuke_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.47 | nuke_ | that same problem |
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| 11:58.13 | teraflops | nuke_: I have *** 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u4 here I'm apt-get upgrading for getting 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u5 and see if it fails, also what's the ooutput of apt-cache policy libreoffice-calc there? |
| 11:58.15 | jelly | good. |
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| 11:58.48 | jelly | nuke_: are there any leftover libreoffice processes already running? ps -fe |grep soffice |
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| 12:00.18 | nuke_ | $ ps -fe |grep soffice |
| 12:00.18 | nuke_ | nuke 4350 4342 0 13:59 pts/2 00:00:00 grep soffice |
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| 12:02.34 | nuke_ | http://pastie.org/10912983 |
| 12:02.38 | nuke_ | for cache |
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| 12:04.08 | teraflops | yeah that's fine according to your sources list |
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| 12:19.32 | teraflops | nuke_: no idea it opens fine usinf the same version as you do, I have no idea whats going on there, if you say you already tried apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-calc even deleting the package from cache so apt gets it from the internet again |
| 12:19.53 | teraflops | using* |
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| 12:22.33 | LAL | Hi everyone, I am new to this organization and I would like to contribute please help. Thank you |
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| 12:23.09 | Iamnotgeorgebush | see... my zodiac sign is pisces with ascendant pisces. very rare constellation... anyone in here who can read my chart? |
| 12:24.17 | Iamnotgeorgebush | I maybe give you money from hacked paypal account if you can help me |
| 12:24.19 | bazhang | Iamnotgeorgebush, did the ops check you yet |
| 12:24.39 | Iamnotgeorgebush | what ops |
| 12:24.50 | bazhang | Iamnotgeorgebush, the channel ops |
| 12:25.01 | Iamnotgeorgebush | I don't know, you have to ask them |
| 12:25.06 | bazhang | this is ##windows Iamnotgeorgebush |
| 12:25.21 | Iamnotgeorgebush | i thought this was #debian |
| 12:25.25 | bazhang | or #debian now |
| 12:25.33 | Iamnotgeorgebush | wat |
| 12:25.44 | bazhang | you just spammed up ##windows, my bad |
| 12:26.03 | Iamnotgeorgebush | spammed? I just want someone to read my astrological chart, as I am to stupid to do it |
| 12:26.25 | bazhang | Iamnotgeorgebush, thats really not topical here at all |
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| 12:26.50 | Iamnotgeorgebush | there is no topic for it on freenode. you have to help me. the life of billions depends on it |
| 12:27.22 | bazhang | Iamnotgeorgebush, lets call the ops and let them clear this up |
| 12:27.32 | Iamnotgeorgebush | okay |
| 12:27.36 | Elirips | Iamnotgeorgebush: why? |
| 12:27.40 | Iamnotgeorgebush | thank you |
| 12:28.03 | Iamnotgeorgebush | because I'm the chosen one. you don't have to believe me. I just want someone to read my chart if possible |
| 12:28.25 | Elirips | Iamnotgeorgebush: What do you think Robin Williams is doing today? |
| 12:28.32 | Iamnotgeorgebush | cocaine |
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| 12:29.23 | Iamnotgeorgebush | why do you ask? Elirips |
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| 12:32.11 | Iamnotgeorgebush | one of them is hard enough but all three... |
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| 12:43.31 | Iridos | oh well |
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| 13:11.34 | Sicelo | or it means newer version of reportbug? i think this is more likely |
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| 13:49.17 | FinalX | running jessie and breaking my head over statd not starting before nfs mounts are done; then later it gets started (I guess with the next network interface), but NFS mounts are not tried again. Bug reports galore, but no real mentioned fix. Seems to do with me creating a bridge interface (br0) in /etc/network/interfaces, and eth0.61 being set to "manual", if I revert to just the eth0.61 interface and put th |
| 13:49.23 | FinalX | e IP config on there (and ditch the bridge), all works well :| |
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| 13:49.47 | FinalX | I *could* just put 'mount -a' in /etc/rc.local, but that's far from elegant :P |
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| 13:58.52 | troulouliou_div2 | !lenny source.list |
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| 13:59.07 | troulouliou_div2 | !squeeze sources.list |
| 13:59.07 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main" "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main". Put "Acquire::Check-Valid-Until false;" in /etc/apt/apt.conf and run «aptitude update». Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze-lts> <squeeze-updates> and "man sources.list". |
| 13:59.23 | Pied_ | Who was the last person to talk to me, I missed their message |
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| 14:00.49 | Guest_____ | i have a wierd question but its bugging me so much: I lost the name for this (program? tool?) which included uboot i think, ( i want to research it, but i dont know the name, i dont know what it does..) |
| 14:01.06 | unborn | hi guys.. recently ive noticed that tacker-store and tracker-miner-fs and tracker-extract eating nearly 90% of my cpu - how to disable that? |
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| 14:02.05 | Guest_____ | i think the program is similar to buildroot, but the name was very exotic sounding and not related to anything |
| 14:02.10 | unborn | after few minutes just traker-store is running at 60% cpu |
| 14:03.02 | teraflops | unborn: /etc/xdg/autostart iirc |
| 14:03.32 | unborn | teraflops: bash: /etc/xdg/autostart: Is a directory |
| 14:03.49 | teraflops | unborn: yeah good catch! did you look inside? |
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| 14:04.45 | unborn | yeah |
| 14:04.46 | unborn | im in |
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| 14:04.57 | unborn | what I am looking for? - got pletny of files there |
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| 14:05.37 | unborn | tracker-store.desktop? |
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| 14:06.25 | teraflops | isn't that obvious that things there are auto started ? |
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| 14:07.31 | unborn | teraflops: it is of course but what that tracker do ? just indexing files? |
| 14:07.40 | teraflops | i guess so |
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| 14:08.07 | Dongyancai | Hello, I followed the instructions in https://wiki.debian.org/CrossToolchains#For_jessie_.28Debian_8.29 , and tried to perform `sudo dpkg --add-architecture powerpcspe ; sudo apt-get update`, but got message as http://lpaste.net/170735. Can I continue ignoring this message? I want to create a cross-compilation environment for e500v2 (P2020). `dpkg-architecture -L` includes "powerpcspe". |
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| 14:10.16 | unborn | okay, problem solved :) changed the way how much it does indexing.. thanks teraflops |
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| 14:11.15 | teraflops | np |
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| 14:23.51 | meretrix | Is there anywhere I can just download a minimal Debian image into which I can chroot? |
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| 14:33.09 | jamiejackson | how do i work around this? http://paste.debian.net/783618/ i can't resolve debian.cs.binghamton.edu on the target server or elsewhere. |
| 14:33.35 | jamiejackson | (that's during `apt-get update`, btw) |
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| 14:37.17 | TomTomTosch | jamiejackson: httpredir has some issues sometimes. pick a mirror from https://www.debian.org/mirror/list change your /etc/apt/sources.list, try to update again. |
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| 14:37.45 | jamiejackson | okay, thanks, TomTomTosch |
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| 14:47.36 | Nasha | Kernel-RT faster regular Kernel for KVM? |
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| 14:48.56 | Nasha | And on mech? |
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| 15:00.25 | mekeor | i'm trying to build and install sddm-config-editor from source (https://github.com/hagabaka/sddm-config-editor). i get those warnings and that error (referring to QQmlApplicationEngine): http://vpaste.net/fAubP â do you have any clue what i'm missing? |
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| 15:05.01 | mekeor | i have all packages installed which are listed by "apt-file find qqmlapplicationengine" or "apt-file find QQmlApplicationEngine" |
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| 15:06.58 | jelly | mekeor, I'm still waiting for the paste to open, but the wild guess would be you're missing some -dev package, or it's not the version author(s) expected |
| 15:07.41 | jelly | possibly it's a qt5 code not qt4 |
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| 15:07.53 | miesco | Hi How do I type keys without my fingers? |
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| 15:09.24 | jelly | mekeor, what happens if you install qt5-qmake instead and use that qmake? |
| 15:09.41 | jelly | miesco, what do you mean? |
| 15:09.48 | miesco | jelly: I figured it out |
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| 15:09.59 | mekeor | jelly: i already have installed both qt4- and qt5-qmake |
| 15:10.05 | miesco | jelly: xdotool key LETTERS |
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| 15:11.00 | jelly | mekeor, alright, what if you explicitely call /usr/lib/*/qt5/bin/qmake |
| 15:11.11 | mekeor | jelly: qmake --version says it's version 4.*. |
| 15:12.16 | mekeor | jelly: btw, is qtchooser a tool to switch the version of qt used? i'm imagining qtchooser to be something like in "qtchooser 5 qmake" or so :D |
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| 15:12.47 | jelly | I have no idea, sorry |
| 15:13.23 | jelly | surely it has a manual? |
| 15:14.05 | mekeor | jelly: YEAH, you were right! it worked! thank you! |
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| 15:18.16 | careta | I want to have a directory with files that when execute assume a group's gid (sgid), but I also want new files to belong to that group and have the sgid bit set when they are created. How can I do that? |
| 15:20.33 | jelly | careta: only compiled binaries can have setgid on linux, scripts can't |
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| 15:21.30 | jelly | and there's no simple way to have setgid enabled by default for new files, you'd have to add it via inotify or the stupid way via a cron job |
| 15:22.02 | careta | that sucks |
| 15:22.11 | jelly | careta, only "new files to belong to that group " can be done easily |
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| 15:22.30 | careta | I have some software I need to contain network wise, and I have an iptables rule to block connectivity to the internet from that group |
| 15:22.39 | careta | local network is ok, but no internet |
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| 15:22.59 | careta | but I also want any files created by that software to be limited in terms of network connectivity |
| 15:23.09 | jelly | perhaps network namespaces would be a better fit than groups. |
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| 15:24.03 | jelly | (google for linux network namespaces, and ip netns) |
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| 15:25.30 | careta | I see, thanks! |
| 15:26.21 | jelly | ask in #netfilter too |
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| 15:55.57 | afx_ | Hello! I am trying to mount a network drive under with this :sudo mount -t cifs -o username=uname,password=pswd,uid=username //ip/folder /media/folder . I am getting mount error(6): No such device or address . What could be wrong? |
| 15:57.01 | Iridos | Maybe there's no such device or address? |
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| 15:58.38 | Iridos | I generally found it simpler to debug samba problems with smbclient |
| 15:58.38 | jelly | afx_: 1) does /media/folder exist? 2) does smbclient -L ip show the /folder share? |
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| 15:59.48 | afx_ | jelly: 1)yes 2) Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth = no' or 'client ntlmv2 auth = yes' tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED |
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| 16:00.15 | afx_ | I can navigate through to the networkd folder through nautilus though , jelly |
| 16:00.34 | jelly | afx_, provide username and password to smbclient as needed |
| 16:00.46 | afx_ | ok let me check |
| 16:01.03 | jelly | which OS on the server side? |
| 16:01.10 | afx_ | openelec |
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| 16:01.41 | SynrGy | also could fail if the domain isn't specified and needs to be. |
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| 16:02.08 | nod3 | hey all! I had an existing raid1 array (BIOS/Intel) and was working fine on jessie. I did a fresh install last night without touching the array and now the array won't show up. Here is /proc/mdstat: http://pastebin.com/VWkPJW0G I have tried mdadm --readwrite md126 but it is still stuck. I guess it's not initialiazing? dmesg shows: http://pastebin.com/JFf0iZXa any help on this? has anyone run into similar prob |
| 16:02.14 | nod3 | lems? I tried numerous posts online on attaching existing array on a fresh install to no avail |
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| 16:04.15 | afx_ | jelly: what username and password shall I provide to smbclient ? local or remote? |
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| 16:04.48 | Iridos | ah yes... just tried myself, haven't used smbclient in ages... I can do this and get access: /usr/bin/smbclient --user "myuser" //full.domain.name/data |
| 16:05.04 | Iridos | the user/password for the smb share, of course |
| 16:05.15 | afx_ | Iridos: ok |
| 16:05.15 | jelly | afx_, the same as for the share? |
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| 16:05.58 | jelly | oh, if it's samba on both ends then it's supposed to work I guess |
| 16:06.44 | ikla | does grub2 offer a shell while booted in linux like legacy grub? |
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| 16:10.33 | afx_ | jelly: with smbclient -L -U "uname" -I //192.x.x.x/folder I get nothing |
| 16:11.53 | SynrGy | what is the domain/workgroup name of the server vs. the domain name/workgroup of the client? |
| 16:12.25 | SynrGy | if they differ, you also need to specify the domain name, both to smbclient and to mount |
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| 16:12.52 | afx_ | SynrGy: don't think there is a domain specified on the server |
| 16:13.41 | SynrGy | [global] workgroup = ? |
| 16:13.41 | afx_ | but let me check first |
| 16:13.41 | SynrGy | no? |
| 16:13.59 | SynrGy | see smbclient -W option |
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| 16:14.58 | Iridos | afx_, -I takes a separate IP if you have a netname in //192.x.x.x/folder that doesn't itself resolve |
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| 16:15.30 | sine0 | I have my first ssd drive in my laptop. do i have to make any special allowances for it in my debian install im going to do |
| 16:16.09 | Iridos | so I think that should either be smbclient -L -U user //192.x.x.x/folder --or-- smbclient -L -U user -I 192.168.3.4 //somename/folder |
| 16:17.16 | Iridos | sine0, I didn't... maybe did some generous alignment and check it with google |
| 16:18.06 | Iridos | so far, it seems to have been ok |
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| 16:18.59 | sine0 | ok cool, should not be a problem i dont think |
| 16:19.01 | afx_ | SynrGy: its WORKGROUP |
| 16:19.03 | Iridos | can't remember, except that I did it all within an hour or so because I had just bought it and was flying overseas... the next day or so... |
| 16:19.06 | afx_ | on the server |
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| 16:20.15 | Iridos | sine0, and I chose encrypted lvm for the laptop... so far that also ran without problem |
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| 16:22.19 | SynrGy | afx_: vs. on the client? |
| 16:22.40 | afx_ | Iridos: tried with the second folder , still nothing |
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| 16:24.49 | afx_ | SynrGy: its also WORKGROUP |
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| 16:32.07 | vlt | Hello. What is the recommended way to install GRUB on current stable? https://wiki.debian.org/Grub says I should install pkg "grub" but this tries to install "grub-legacy" (grub v1?) |
| 16:32.25 | greycat | grub-efi for EFI boxes, grub-pc for not |
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| 16:33.51 | vlt | greycat: Thanks. |
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| 16:37.43 | vlt | I installed grub-efi, ran `grub-install /dev/md126` and got "grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory." |
| 16:38.44 | vlt | Thereâs /usr/lib/grub/i386-xen/modinfo.sh |
| 16:39.03 | vlt | reads man grub-install |
| 16:39.30 | greycat | /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh is in the grub-pc-bin package (not the -efi stuff) |
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| 16:42.28 | vlt | When specifying --directory I get these errors: http://paste.debian.net/783665/ |
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| 16:42.54 | jhutchins | afx_: Just on a whim, try putting the -o section after the share/mountpoint section. |
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| 16:44.29 | vlt | Am I doing it wrong? Is grub-install (whch came with grub2-common) not the right tool for grub-efi? |
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| 16:45.43 | greycat | You mentioned xen. You also mentioned /dev/md126 which is just baffling and frankly a bit frightening. Is your thing that you are booting a virtual machine of some kind? If so, does this virtual machine boot using (virtual) EFI or (virtual) BIOS? |
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| 16:48.10 | SynrGy | afx_: issue with the netname, then? just a guess. i think someone already mentioned this. |
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| 16:48.40 | afx_ | net lookup resolves the name |
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| 16:48.53 | SynrGy | why aren't you using the netname? |
| 16:49.12 | vlt | greycat: Thank you for your time. Iâll explain: I want to install Debian as a xen dom0 (host) and replace an older Ubuntu. /dev/md126 is the device that later is mounted to /boot. This is running in a chroot with bind-mounted /dev. |
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| 16:49.42 | vlt | greycat: But maybe I should try to install grub directly to /dev/sda (and sdb) instead. |
| 16:49.44 | vlt | greycat: brb |
| 16:49.44 | afx_ | I try to reboot and check again ! |
| 16:49.47 | afx_ | thank you all |
| 16:49.50 | SynrGy | i would normally specify //netname/dirname in my fstab |
| 16:50.08 | afx_ | ok |
| 16:50.13 | afx_ | will try that too |
| 16:51.13 | vlt | greycat: No, I get the same errors for /dev/sda. This used to be sooo easy in previous versions ... hmmmm. Maybe Iâll try grub-pc instead. |
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| 16:53.33 | greycat | You really kinda have to know whether your machine is booting via EFI or BIOS. |
| 16:53.46 | greycat | Does your boot disk have an EFI partition? |
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| 16:56.16 | vlt | greycat: No, it doesnât. I made the mistake of choosing grub-efi because I thought the PC supports EFI. Currently it boots GRUB and I think it should stay that way. |
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| 16:56.43 | greycat | Right. A box without an EFI partition is going to necessarily be booting in BIOS mode even if the machine could also support UEFI booting. |
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| 16:57.37 | vlt | greycat: I just tried to replace the current grub(v2) which came with Ubuntu in 2012 with a "more recent" grub from Debian. |
| 16:58.07 | vlt | greycat: Maybe I should do that once that new Debian is actually running :-D |
| 16:58.21 | greycat | Use grub-pc since you don't have an EFI partition and therefore can't boot in (U)EFI mode. |
| 16:58.54 | greycat | Plenty of systems that are capable of either one are still configured to boot in BIOS mode, for lots of possible reasons. |
| 16:58.55 | vlt | For now Iâll just edit grub.cfg to point to the new root fs and then try again. Thanks so far! |
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| 17:04.06 | Iridos | how'd you see the system can do uefi? some bios option? |
| 17:04.44 | greycat | Yeah, that'd be one way. |
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| 17:05.07 | greycat | Or it might have shipped with a disk that originally had an EFI partition, but you wiped it out, etc. |
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| 17:15.37 | nod3 | has anyone here been in this situation: md126 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sdc[1] sdd[0] |
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| 17:16.06 | nod3 | I've tried mdadm --readwrite /dev/md126 to no avail |
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| 17:16.20 | greycat | does a /whois nod3 and a /whois vlt |
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| 17:16.33 | greycat | I... don't get it. Is "md126" a common thing in Ubuntuspace? |
| 17:16.33 | nod3 | not the same person hehe |
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| 17:16.51 | nod3 | this is #debian is it not? heh... |
| 17:16.53 | greycat | Who the hell has one hundred twenty-six software RAID volumes? |
| 17:17.08 | greycat | Why do TWO people have that many? EXACTLY that many? |
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| 17:17.23 | nod3 | dunno. as I wrote earlier I had an existing raid1 array, I did a fresh install and mdadm reports that now |
| 17:17.51 | nod3 | this raid1 array is just a data partition nothing to do with the OS itself.. |
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| 17:18.10 | nod3 | the array was done through BIOS/Intel it was working prior to the fresh install |
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| 17:22.11 | plasmoduck | I need help setting up a mail server, I'm running phpbb3, so I need to setup a mailserver so when users register I get an email to activate their account. |
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| 17:22.58 | axc1298 | i tried to install a package with dpkg -i and it had unmet dependencies. however the package is somehow partially installed. i try to remove it with apt-get remove and get /var/lib/dpkg/info/mypackage.postrm 7: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mypackage.postrm: update-desktop-database: not found dpkg: error processing package mypackage (--remove): subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 127 |
| 17:23.01 | nod3 | greycat: I don't have 126 raid volumes, the system is automatically naming them that way. |
| 17:23.06 | axc1298 | what should i do? |
| 17:23.18 | nod3 | axc1298: try apt-get install -f |
| 17:23.37 | nod3 | it should help resolve the dependencies and finish installing the package... |
| 17:23.42 | axc1298 | nod3: same error when i try that |
| 17:23.56 | axc1298 | i want to remove the package, so that i can install the dependencies first then re-install it |
| 17:24.04 | axc1298 | i am unable to install anything right now however |
| 17:24.16 | greycat | axc1298: You mixed stable and testing? Or stable and unstable? Or you used an overly intrusive third party repository and then removed it? |
| 17:24.17 | plasmoduck | I own a domain name can I use that for the mail server? |
| 17:24.19 | axc1298 | apt-get install -f tried to remove the package and fails |
| 17:24.32 | dikabo | I have a question related to RS232/serial connection and agetty. I try to log in a laptop with Debian 8.5 from windows with putty over a RS232/serial cable. In my case it is necessary to start agetty _after_ putty to get a login. If putty is started when agetty is already running, there seems to be no connection. Any suggestions? |
| 17:24.34 | axc1298 | greycat: no. i tried to install a deb built for stable but it isn't in stable repos |
| 17:24.44 | Iridos | greycat, our redhat boxes have md122-md127 and nothing else |
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| 17:25.12 | T4ng10r | hi |
| 17:25.30 | Iridos | greycat, I think it's counting downwards from 127 |
| 17:25.43 | greycat | axc1298: was it built for *jessie*, or for some indeterminate "stable" from who-knows-what-year? |
| 17:25.53 | T4ng10r | how to solve this kind of dependency problem - http://paste.debian.net/783679/ |
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| 17:26.36 | axc1298 | greycat: jessie. the dependencies are both in jessie and this works on my other stable machine. i just forgot to install the dependencies manually before doing dpkg -i this time |
| 17:26.42 | T4ng10r | i need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good |
| 17:27.01 | greycat | axc1298: sounds like you should install those dependencies by hand, then |
| 17:27.05 | TomTomTosch | plasmoduck: your domain nam registrar should provide a methode to set resource records. the mx record is meant to point to the mail server. |
| 17:27.32 | Iridos | axc1298, you have to fix the postrm script |
| 17:27.36 | axc1298 | greycat: unfortunately i can't. if i try and apt-get install anything right now, i am getting that error. it tries to remove the broken package |
| 17:27.57 | greycat | NOT WITH APT_GET |
| 17:27.59 | greycat | I said by hand. |
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| 17:28.06 | plasmoduck | TomTomTosch: okay sweet, but what do I have to do on my box? |
| 17:28.10 | greycat | With dpkg -i. And wget. Or other web agent of your choice. |
| 17:28.21 | axc1298 | Iridos: ok i'll try to open it up and see what it looks like |
| 17:28.23 | TomTomTosch | plasmoduck: install a mail server and configure it. |
| 17:28.25 | Iridos | dpkg, tell axc1298 about postrm |
| 17:28.58 | axc1298 | Iridos: greycat: will try those. thanks |
| 17:29.03 | axc1298 | i will edit the script first |
| 17:29.21 | Iridos | axc1298, try to fix the bug... or at least see what it is... something makes the script exit with an error... as the factoid told you in a private message, you can just write "exit 0" to the begin of the script... |
| 17:29.23 | plasmoduck | which one? |
| 17:29.23 | plasmoduck | TomTomTosch: that's what I'm asking, what to install and how to configure it, can you point me to a url or something please? |
| 17:29.46 | Iridos | then it'll exit "successful" (but whatever it was supposed to do obviously stays not done) |
| 17:30.23 | TomTomTosch | plasmoduck: that's not so trivial. you can read up on postfix or a mailserver of your choice. |
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| 17:32.56 | plasmoduck | TomTomTosch: I've never had much luck setting up mailservers in the past, I know they can be quite tricky. |
| 17:33.13 | axc1298 | Iridos: thanks i think i know what to do now |
| 17:33.44 | abrotman | They're not tricky, they're tricky to make work correctly :) |
| 17:34.01 | TomTomTosch | plasmoduck: reading is the mother of all skills. |
| 17:34.06 | plasmoduck | abrotman: thanks for clarifying that |
| 17:34.15 | abrotman | heh |
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| 17:34.42 | abrotman | plasmoduck: the postfix.org site has a bunch of great starter howtos, and a pretty good set of docs |
| 17:35.09 | plasmoduck | usually my email ends up getting sucked into some black hole in some alternate universe and I never receive it. |
| 17:35.33 | plasmoduck | abrotman: cheers, I'll check it out now ;-) |
| 17:36.20 | Iridos | axc1298, this is maybe a bit an annoying feature, but it is by design... if the install scripts don't work, dpkg just refuses to continue to do anything until you fix it |
| 17:37.46 | T4ng10r | how to solve this kind of dependency problem - http://paste.debian.net/783679/?? I need gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, while testing has gstreamer1.0 |
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| 17:39.50 | Iridos | why are you installing with dpkg and trying to resolve dependencies manually anyway |
| 17:39.52 | Iridos | that's what apt is for |
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| 17:40.23 | greycat | He installed some not-in-a-repository .deb file. |
| 17:40.42 | greycat | By hand. But then didn't install the dependencies by hand to match. |
| 17:41.24 | Iridos | judd, versions libtag1c2a |
| 17:41.25 | judd | Package: libtag1c2a on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.6.3-1; wheezy: 1.7.2-1; wheezy-multimedia: 1.8-dmo1; wheezy-backports: 1.9.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9.1-2.1 |
| 17:41.36 | T4ng10r | I had app which requires gstreamer0.10 to make sound work, but debian testing had only gstreamer1.0 and part of gstreamer0.10 |
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| 17:42.03 | Iridos | what version of debian are you using |
| 17:42.06 | T4ng10r | most of them had installed successfuly, but plugins-good failed due to above problem |
| 17:42.15 | T4ng10r | currently I have testing |
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| 17:42.40 | Iridos | judd, versions gstreamer0.10 |
| 17:42.42 | judd | No package named 'gstreamer0.10' was found in amd64. |
| 17:43.37 | abrotman | that's like .. squeeze? |
| 17:43.47 | T4ng10r | apt-cache search --names-only gstreamer0.10 -> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good |
| 17:44.02 | abrotman | judd: versions gstreamer0.10-plugins-good |
| 17:44.03 | judd | Package: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.10.24-1; wheezy: 0.10.31-3+nmu1; jessie: 0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1 |
| 17:44.14 | abrotman | T4ng10r: and which versoin of Debian are you on? |
| 17:44.30 | Iridos | testing, look two lines above :) |
| 17:44.35 | T4ng10r | apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10-plugins-good -> 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie/main amd64 Packages |
| 17:44.49 | T4ng10r | I mean - in testing there NO gstreamer0.10 |
| 17:44.57 | T4ng10r | in jessie - they are |
| 17:45.01 | abrotman | T4ng10r: that's right, because it's not that version anymore .. what are you actually trying to do? |
| 17:45.01 | greycat | Testing support is on the OFTC network in #debian-next |
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| 17:46.23 | T4ng10r | I want ONE APP to use sound, its configured on gstreamer0.10, I added most of gstreamer0.10 needed packages by hand (dpkg) but failt to solve problem in link |
| 17:47.16 | Iridos | use the source package and try to compile it for testing? |
| 17:47.20 | T4ng10r | I don't want to reinstall system to stable (jessie) to clean up whole mess and work with this APP (TeamViz BTW) |
| 17:47.29 | plasmoduck | I just asked for help in #postfix and was told it's a #debian question, so. |
| 17:47.34 | plasmoduck | I'm trying to configure postfix and I have no idea what I am doing, I have the configuration guide open from postfix.org. Basically, I run a local Debian server, apache, phpbb3 etc. I own a domain name, I have a dynamic ip (no rdns) so I use ddns.net to point my domain name to my webserver. I would like to be able to send and receive email from my server over the internet (using my domain name if possible, or at least my ddns hostname) |
| 17:47.55 | plasmoduck | So I am at the General type of mail configuration: Should I select Internet Site, Internet with smarthost? |
| 17:49.13 | T4ng10r | ok, i'll give a try |
| 17:49.21 | plasmoduck | I'm guessingg Internet with smarthost? |
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| 17:49.47 | Iridos | T4ng10r, you can try to let aptitude resolve your dependency problem (but then have to add jessie repos to yours and... mixing is always a mess, but you already started down that way) or try to compile it with the source package fro testing ( /msg dpkg ssb for backporting instructions, this is the same procedure, just reverse in the repos you use) |
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| 17:54.07 | Iridos | T4ng10r, also... pbuilder can make a chroot in minutes... and one can log in to the chroot with a pbuilder command and install arbitrary things (that are then removed). Dunno how difficult you'd find it to start graphical stuff. Else, this is a good options to try things out in another version than what one is using |
| 17:55.24 | plasmoduck | abrotman: what would you think? |
| 17:55.35 | plasmoduck | I mean, reading is one thing, understanding it is another. |
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| 17:56.27 | Iridos | deep learning |
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| 18:00.17 | TomTomTosch | plasmoduck: it's "Internet Site" for a mail server with a static ip. |
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| 18:01.06 | T4ng10r | Iridos: thank you for tips, I don't feel to good with chroot, I like to learn and understand what I do instead of simply retyping what other has wrote |
| 18:01.23 | Iridos | ? |
| 18:01.41 | leba2 | Can Debian auto-calculate network and broadcast addresses for /etc/network/interfaces in case of static network configuration? Or do I still need to specify them? |
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| 18:02.19 | Strogg | 'lo 'lo |
| 18:02.32 | Strogg | anyone know a good place to ask makefile questions? |
| 18:02.34 | greycat | You need to specify the network mask. It can calculate the "network address" and "broadcast address" from that. |
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| 18:03.01 | greycat | Strogg: ##workingset |
| 18:03.05 | plasmoduck | I found this, so I am following it, hopefully it works, looks promising. https://scaron.info/blog/debian-mail-postfix-dovecot.html |
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| 18:03.49 | Strogg | greycat: huh. thanks! I'll add that to my autojoin list |
| 18:05.16 | leba2 | greycat: thanks again sir. But I did know that thing, which is why I was just asking about network address and broadcast address. I do know host's ip address, subnet mask, gateway and dns are the basic ones. |
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| 18:07.19 | leba2 | So for some reason d-i usually includes network and broadcast address anyway when configuring static network config, but I could actually skip/comment them, right? |
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| 18:07.48 | greycat | TIAS |
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| 18:08.43 | Neo | greetings everyone |
| 18:09.46 | leba2 | Sorry, what does "TIAS" mean? |
| 18:09.52 | Neo | I've got two protocols defined on dev eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces the up scripts execute for inet, but up doesn't seem to be executing for inet6. How do I got about finding why? |
| 18:09.55 | greycat | Try It And See |
| 18:10.37 | Neo | both protocols are declared static |
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| 18:10.58 | Neo | inet6 does get configured correctly, but doesn't execute the up scripts |
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| 18:11.48 | leba2 | Ok, thanks. |
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| 18:21.45 | plasmoduck | what ports do i have to forward in my router for postfix and dovecot? |
| 18:22.58 | greycat | Depends on what exactly you're doing. To receive email from other sites, you need incoming 25/tcp (SMTP). To allow IMAP clients to connect, you need incoming 143/tcp (IMAP). |
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| 18:25.20 | plasmoduck | fuck |
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| 18:25.39 | plasmoduck | This is giving me a migraine |
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| 18:34.58 | plasmoduck | # mail |
| 18:34.58 | plasmoduck | bash: mail: command not found |
| 18:35.00 | plasmoduck | wtf |
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| 18:35.37 | greycat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Sep 4 2015 /usr/bin/mail -> /etc/alternatives/mail |
| 18:35.39 | greycat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Sep 4 2015 /etc/alternatives/mail -> /usr/bin/heirloom-mailx |
| 18:36.26 | Flippylosaurus | how do i send a mail using the command line? |
| 18:36.31 | Flippylosaurus | i have a MTA on my server |
| 18:36.45 | plasmoduck | Flippylosaurus: should be able to type mail like I am trying |
| 18:37.19 | Flippylosaurus | root@flippylosaurus:~# mail |
| 18:37.19 | Flippylosaurus | No mail for root |
| 18:37.26 | greycat | Install any of the various command-line MUAs (mutt, heirloom-mailx) and have at it. |
| 18:37.40 | Flippylosaurus | wasnt there something like mailsend |
| 18:37.50 | greycat | ot |
| 18:37.54 | greycat | It's not hard, really. |
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| 18:38.10 | plasmoduck | somethings seriously fucked up with my mail |
| 18:38.15 | plasmoduck | I can't even use local mail new |
| 18:38.17 | plasmoduck | now |
| 18:38.19 | greycat | echo "This is a test" | mail -s "a subject" addr1 addr2 addr3 |
| 18:39.00 | plasmoduck | bash: mail: command not found |
| 18:39.11 | plasmoduck | thats after installing postfix and dovecot |
| 18:39.42 | Flippylosaurus | how do i change the outgoing address with mail? |
| 18:39.44 | greycat | for fuck's sake, SCROLL UP and read what was said 3 minutes ago |
| 18:39.58 | greycat | (plasmoduck) |
| 18:40.05 | plasmoduck | Yes I seen your permission listings |
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| 18:41.36 | plasmoduck | how come before I could just type 'mail', greycat |
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| 18:42.22 | eitzei | I guess greycat is trying to tell you mail is only a symlink to other program. If you don't have that symlink in place, "command not found" |
| 18:42.32 | greycat | Before what? Before you removed the heirloom-mailx package or whatever was providing your /etc/alternatives/mail? |
| 18:42.56 | teraflops | plasmoduck: did you read the dpkg messages while installing the stuff? |
| 18:43.23 | plasmoduck | Honestly, I have NO idea what I am doing. |
| 18:43.27 | plasmoduck | This is beyond me. |
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| 18:43.44 | teraflops | plasmoduck: then don't do it |
| 18:43.58 | plasmoduck | I kinda *need* to :/ |
| 18:44.09 | plasmoduck | Or find someone to do it for me for $ |
| 18:44.20 | plasmoduck | I'm trying to run a business |
| 18:45.11 | greycat | plasmoduck: Did you install heirloom-mailx yet? |
| 18:45.18 | plasmoduck | I installed mutt |
| 18:45.22 | greycat | OK, then use mutt. |
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| 18:45.25 | greycat | Mutt is good. |
| 18:45.33 | plasmoduck | Im just going to go back to how it was before. I purged postix |
| 18:45.39 | plasmoduck | re-installing sendmail |
| 18:45.39 | teraflops | plasmoduck: take a look at e.g upwork then |
| 18:46.00 | plasmoduck | I remember before I could send mail from my box to gmail account |
| 18:46.05 | N3X15 | Well, it's a good thing I tested downgrading to Jessie from testing on my test server. Ended up having to reinstall the OS. |
| 18:46.06 | plasmoduck | so that was kinda acceptable |
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| 18:46.15 | greycat | I *did* give an example, yes? I wasn't hallucinating that? |
| 18:46.27 | plasmoduck | Yes you did greycat, cheers mate. |
| 18:47.03 | plasmoduck | Hopefully I haven't fucked shit up too bad and I can still sendmail to the www |
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| 18:47.27 | teraflops | if you're blindly reinstalling sendmail I agree with you. you have not idea of what you're doing |
| 18:48.01 | greycat | You can't send mail to the www. The www is not made of mail. It's made of http. |
| 18:48.26 | plasmoduck | greycat: you know what I mean, send mail externally. |
| 18:48.43 | greycat | To the internet. To other mail servers. |
| 18:48.51 | plasmoduck | Yes |
| 18:49.58 | x86iac | greycat: you heard of web mail? |
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| 18:50.05 | plasmoduck | why is setting up mail server so difficult. Surely someone has made some web front end for this to eliminate frustration and migraine s. |
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| 18:50.45 | greycat | x86iac: sure, but you don't *send mail to the www*. You send mail to a mail server. Then maybe just maybe possibly you use a mail-reading application via a web browser to read it. |
| 18:51.09 | greycat | plasmoduck: it's not that difficult. |
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| 18:51.26 | plasmoduck | greycat: I think my system is in a mess |
| 18:52.15 | N3X15 | Read the manual and how email works and understand it before attempting to mess with it. Email on Linux is already complex as hell to configure. You need to understand the basics before attempting to break it. |
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| 18:52.58 | plasmoduck | N3X15: I know it is complex as hell. |
| 18:53.11 | N3X15 | I would recommend using a VM or local test server to test things rather than doing it on your production system |
| 18:53.25 | N3X15 | That way, if you screw up, you can just reinstall and try again |
| 18:53.35 | plasmoduck | Good idea |
| 18:54.18 | teraflops | plasmoduck: I strongly suggest you to not setup an email server by yourself if you're planing a business. |
| 18:54.23 | N3X15 | ^ |
| 18:54.37 | N3X15 | gmail has good, premade email services, for instance |
| 18:55.01 | N3X15 | Even lets you use it for your domain |
| 18:55.02 | plasmoduck | But I want to use my domain name for emails |
| 18:55.08 | plasmoduck | How? |
| 18:55.23 | teraflops | plasmoduck: take this works as a kindly suggestion that will save you time and money |
| 18:55.28 | teraflops | words |
| 18:55.36 | N3X15 | https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/mail/help/work.html @ plasmoduck |
| 18:55.47 | plasmoduck | Also, I need to have mail working on my server for user registration needs |
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| 18:55.56 | N3X15 | there's more, that's just the first result |
| 18:56.07 | N3X15 | and you can do that, you just set up sendmail to SMTP to gmail |
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| 18:56.18 | teraflops | plasmoduck: just use Google apps and link your domain to Gmail servers |
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| 18:56.44 | greycat | The google is friendly. The google won't read your email. They promise! |
| 18:56.53 | plasmoduck | I think I have to pay extra to use mail services? Im not sure |
| 18:56.59 | plasmoduck | I'm using godaddy.com |
| 18:57.02 | N3X15 | You may have to screw around with MX records and whatnot, but it's still a lot better than hand-configuring exim. |
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| 18:57.15 | plasmoduck | Google is the NSA |
| 18:57.16 | plasmoduck | Big brother |
| 18:57.28 | N3X15 | well, everyone's spying on everything nowadays |
| 18:57.28 | plasmoduck | I don't even use Google, I use DuckDuckGo |
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| 18:57.41 | N3X15 | deal with it *sunglasses* |
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| 18:57.48 | sm00th | lol |
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| 18:58.03 | plasmoduck | I refuse to use Google! |
| 18:58.09 | teraflops | greycat: that's better than setting up a mail server for an actual business with the sysadmin background we all have seen from him. no offense intended |
| 18:58.20 | plasmoduck | and Facebook... I hate Facebook. |
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| 18:58.23 | N3X15 | Then use Godaddy's paid email services |
| 18:58.40 | N3X15 | I used to use them before they screwed me on a bill |
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| 18:58.52 | enertec | hi there |
| 18:59.01 | N3X15 | They provide email services in your hosting section |
| 18:59.01 | plasmoduck | N3X15: what happened? |
| 18:59.20 | plasmoduck | Yeah I clicked it and it said contact customer support. |
| 18:59.20 | N3X15 | They overcharged me by $25 and refused to fix it |
| 18:59.35 | x86iac | they have to be reading my gmail email or why else would i be getting pop up ads for depends |
| 18:59.35 | N3X15 | I charged them back and switched to namecheap |
| 18:59.52 | enertec | would you say that ext4 is the better choice nowadays? i am formatting 3tb samsung / seagate external sub 3.0 drive |
| 18:59.56 | enertec | usb |
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| 19:00.09 | x86iac | enertec: yes ext4 |
| 19:00.17 | N3X15 | enertec, depends on your usage patterns and what you want out of it |
| 19:00.17 | plasmoduck | yes |
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| 19:00.26 | plasmoduck | N3X15: how did you charge them back? |
| 19:00.29 | N3X15 | I use reiserfs out of habit |
| 19:00.39 | plasmoduck | ZFS |
| 19:00.40 | N3X15 | plasmoduck, credit card company magic |
| 19:00.50 | plasmoduck | N3X15: explain |
| 19:00.56 | enertec | on wikipedia i read ext3 is more stable but ext4 has much more performance |
| 19:01.03 | x86iac | plasmoduck: zfs with 3tb? |
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| 19:01.15 | enertec | zfs? |
| 19:01.24 | enertec | on a single usb 3tb drive? |
| 19:01.29 | enertec | hm |
| 19:01.37 | x86iac | enertec: stick to ext4 and use multiple partitions |
| 19:01.45 | greycat | Why the hell would you use anything as experimental and nonstandard as zfs on an external disk? |
| 19:01.55 | enertec | there is only one partition on it |
| 19:02.02 | plasmoduck | Just for fun |
| 19:02.12 | N3X15 | greycat, maybe he's into sadomasochism |
| 19:02.18 | enertec | i wonder how they did it but it is mbr /msdos an |
| 19:02.22 | plasmoduck | BDSM |
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| 19:03.06 | enertec | i always thought that 3tb can only be gpt |
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| 19:04.09 | enertec | N3X15, ??? |
| 19:04.23 | enertec | why use multiple partitions |
| 19:04.32 | enertec | isnt one partition fine as for data |
| 19:04.41 | greycat | Use whatever you want. |
| 19:04.53 | aruna | hi does anyone know what the nm command ( binutils ) stands for please ? What I mean is the acronym *nm* what does it actually stand for ? |
| 19:04.57 | teraflops | yeah. whatever floats you goat |
| 19:05.00 | x86iac | what if it goes bad? multiple partitions don't all go bad at the same time |
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| 19:05.18 | greycat | If it's an external disk then the implication is that you might want to use it on more than one computer, so you should PROBABLY choose something that is likely to work on more than one computer, but hey, it's your disk. |
| 19:06.13 | enertec | its only there to store and archive data |
| 19:06.19 | teraflops | yeah that's why zfs sounded ewww |
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| 19:07.29 | plasmoduck | I just use zfs for all my media |
| 19:07.33 | plasmoduck | FreeNAS |
| 19:07.57 | x86iac | aruna: name mangling (resolves it) |
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| 19:08.00 | enertec | freenas can work well with ext4 doesn it? |
| 19:08.46 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.46 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.55 | aruna | x86iac: Thank you but how does one unmangle ? |
| 19:08.58 | plasmoduck | look at my shirt https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lX121qprm0k/UtSORdvxnxI/AAAAAAAAE-c/mHcqq3jXnCc/w2048-h1361/keepcalmfreenas.png |
| 19:08.58 | greycat | Presumably it stands for "name list". |
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| 19:09.07 | plasmoduck | Keep calm and use FreeNas |
| 19:09.44 | enertec | :-) |
| 19:10.07 | plasmoduck | ;-) |
| 19:10.08 | aruna | greycat: Thank you but my man pages says -> nm - list symbols from object files |
| 19:10.10 | x86iac | T non_mangled_function |
| 19:10.32 | aruna | am running debian |
| 19:10.41 | greycat | aruna: I cited a NON-DEBIAN man page. Because it gave me the information I wanted. |
| 19:11.04 | greycat | You wanted the origin of the name. So I used a system that had less modern documentation. |
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| 19:11.13 | aruna | greycat: no noo thank you so much for helping I just wish I can find what the darn acronym actually means ? |
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| 19:11.30 | x86iac | nm = name mangling |
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| 19:11.31 | greycat | You don't think my citation was accurate? |
| 19:11.49 | x86iac | it is very very old |
| 19:11.53 | axc1298 | Iridos: adding exit 0 to the postrm script solved the problem |
| 19:11.55 | greycat | Feel free to dig up some other old-unix system man pages and cross check it. |
| 19:11.59 | axc1298 | thanks |
| 19:12.33 | Iridos | axc1298, yeah, I know... but whatever the script was supposed to do didn't happen |
| 19:12.40 | abrotman | plasmoduck: eh, what? |
| 19:13.07 | aruna | greycat: absolutely accurate dear I am trying to put together some documentation on kernel modules for total newbies and wanted to list the actual names of some of the tools used to analyse object files is all |
| 19:13.08 | plasmoduck | abrotman: never mind, I've given up. |
| 19:13.10 | abrotman | plasmoduck: Oh, I assume you figured it out by now |
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| 19:13.25 | axc1298 | Iridos: does it matter? i added exit 0, then removed the package i was trying to install, installed the dependencies, then installed the deb again, no errors and it works |
| 19:13.40 | plasmoduck | It was stressing me out too much |
| 19:13.50 | aruna | x86iac: name mangling huh ? Oh kay :-) |
| 19:13.56 | axc1298 | the script was trying to do 'set -e' and 'update-desktop-database' |
| 19:13.57 | plasmoduck | I need to keep calm and use gmail |
| 19:14.02 | greycat | nm(1) does NOT come from "name mangling". Just no. |
| 19:14.59 | x86iac | enertec: just remove the drive and you will see next time you try to mount it |
| 19:15.04 | greycat | "name mangling" is a term that I first heard in the early C++ era, which is MUCH later than the nm(1) program |
| 19:15.29 | greycat | And tells you pretty much everything you need to know about C++. |
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| 19:16.35 | x86iac | enertec: yes sync is good but umount will do it if needed |
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| 19:17.16 | aruna | greycat: So what do I say *nm* actually stands for then ? I use gcc and plain old C has so far been sufficient to resolve whatever my needs may have been. |
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| 19:17.56 | greycat | aruna: my cited reference says it means "print name list of common object file" so it is almost certainly a shortening of "name" just like "ls" is a shortening of "list" and so on. |
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| 19:18.07 | enertec | thanks x86iac |
| 19:18.12 | enertec | i appreciate your help |
| 19:18.50 | aruna | greycat: x86iac: oh kay thank's very much both of you. |
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| 19:43.22 | Neo | changing my up to post-up and appending '|| true' seemed to have fixed the fault |
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| 19:53.02 | BrainBug[BE] | Hey, Can anybody tell me I've just shrunk my lv (lv_home) from 250 to 200GB. All works fine. After some file checking I did lvreduce --resizefs -L 200G /dev/vg/lv_home This worked, maybe because the drive was as good as empty, but what happens if the drive is full? Will it give an error or anything like that? |
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| 19:54.53 | jelly | BrainBug[BE]: resizing the filesystem will fail, then resizing the lv will fail as well, you'd end up with no change |
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| 19:55.39 | BrainBug[BE] | jelly, thank you for the information. |
| 19:55.45 | jelly | in theory that is. In practice I never let lvchange/lvreduce do the implicit work, and always manually resize2fs before reducing the block device. |
| 19:56.42 | jelly | BrainBug[BE]: was the filesystem unmounted while doing lvreduce? Did you save the complete output of the command? |
| 19:57.07 | BrainBug[BE] | Yes, i've used resize2fs first. I was just curious. The filesystem was indeed unmounted first. |
| 19:57.08 | jelly | if you have the output, it may shed some light on whether it did the sane (safe) thing |
| 19:57.24 | jelly | ah, that's just fine then. |
| 19:57.27 | BrainBug[BE] | Jelly, ah but there is no problem at the moment, just a practical question as in what would happen. |
| 19:57.34 | greycat | In practice you never reduce the size of a file system, except when it's a Windows partition that spans the disk you want to install a real OS on. |
| 19:58.06 | jelly | BrainBug[BE], I think you'd have have to use --force because lvm tools do some sanity checking and detect there's a filesystem |
| 19:58.18 | jelly | and after you forced it, you'd have data loss :-) |
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| 19:59.10 | jelly | greycat, in practice, Debian installer spans the LV for /home to fit the whole PV |
| 19:59.19 | jelly | that is a dumb thing to do |
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| 19:59.34 | greycat | OK, true, some people actually let the installer partition for them.... |
| 19:59.41 | BrainBug[BE] | jelly, I would expect as much. But it's nice to know if my lv is 90% full and I try shrink it to lets say 80%, it throws me an error. |
| 20:00.27 | jelly | BrainBug[BE], the LV is just a piece of disk space, it's not 90% or 80% full. It's the filesystem structures on top of it that have a concept of "full" and "free" space |
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| 20:01.16 | BrainBug[BE] | jelly, that actually makes sense. |
| 20:01.33 | jelly | so if you followed the same procedure, it would be resize2fs that would throw an error |
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| 20:02.23 | BrainBug[BE] | jelly, thanks for the info, I was just testing out and playing around with lvm to get to know it a bit better (and the commands). |
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| 20:08.52 | jhutchins | Experience is proportionate to data destroyed. |
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| 20:09.15 | x86iac | and to failure to boot |
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| 20:09.58 | x86iac | divided by man page readings |
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| 20:12.09 | teraflops | jhutchins: heh very true |
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| 20:15.16 | kanzure | p/win 12 |
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| 20:16.15 | miesco | Hi how do I stop my notification daemon? |
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| 20:16.48 | jelly | miesco, what's a notification daemon? |
| 20:17.14 | teraflops | notify-osd dunst etc |
| 20:17.26 | greycat | I would guess it's something related to a desktop environment |
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| 20:17.42 | miesco | teraflops: dunst says there is already one running, but `ps aux | grep notif` returns nothing |
| 20:17.53 | miesco | greycat: No its not |
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| 20:18.20 | teraflops | miesco: yeah. please be specific. as in which de wm are you in |
| 20:18.44 | greycat | what's a dunst |
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| 20:18.57 | teraflops | a notification daemon |
| 20:18.59 | teraflops | heh |
| 20:19.33 | greycat | $ apt-cache search dunst |
| 20:19.33 | greycat | dunst - dmenu-ish notification-daemon |
| 20:20.18 | teraflops | quite popular for i3 people I think |
| 20:20.43 | teraflops | people who run i3 I meant |
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| 20:21.09 | miesco | teraflops: dwm |
| 20:21.16 | greycat | still isn't clear on what a "notification daemon" is. Is it like a terminal running tail -f on a logfile? Or is it a popup that you have to dismiss randomly every time it appears? Or...? |
| 20:21.25 | turbo64 | is it a good idea to upgrade from jessie to stretch right now |
| 20:21.41 | miesco | greycat: Its a bubble with words |
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| 20:22.01 | BrainBug[BE] | miesco, probably obvious but ps aux | grep dunst ? |
| 20:22.15 | greycat | Is it always there, or does it appear and disappear on its own, or do you have to interact with it to make it go away, or...? |
| 20:22.29 | teraflops | miesco: grep prep for it. I do not know the process name. if it's python search for python |
| 20:22.43 | teraflops | grep* sorry |
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| 20:22.47 | miesco | BrainBug[BE]: No that doesn't work. I removed dunst for now. Executing `/usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon` just returns 1 with no words. |
| 20:22.55 | babilen | uses dunst |
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| 20:23.37 | miesco | teraflops: I have removed all notification daemons except for `notification-daemon` |
| 20:23.40 | greycat | guesses... from context... from miesco's questions... that it's *not* always there, otherwise he wouldn't be asking whether it's running |
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| 20:24.11 | miesco | greycat: How do you get notifications? |
| 20:24.31 | greycat | the phone rings and someone tells me to do something, or I get an email and I read it and someone wants me to do something |
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| 20:24.46 | miesco | greycat: What if someone sends you a message on irc? |
| 20:25.07 | greycat | If I happen to be looking at the IRC client window, as I am right now, I'll see it. |
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| 20:25.48 | miesco | greycat: What if you need to test the output of a cron job |
| 20:26.02 | greycat | output of cron jobs goes to email |
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| 20:26.20 | teraflops | miesco: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/notification-daemon read it |
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| 20:26.59 | miesco | teraflops: Not much there to read |
| 20:27.30 | teraflops | packages providing notification daemon... |
| 20:27.59 | greycat | So desktop environment users have been getting these things for so long that they assume everyone has always gotten them and knows what they are. |
| 20:28.02 | greycat | Interesting. |
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| 20:28.37 | turbo128 | hi |
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| 20:30.16 | miesco | teraflops: Well any other of those daemons all say that there is another one running and I can't find it |
| 20:30.19 | teraflops | greycat: I do notify-osd on xmonad. is usefull to have a notification daemon. at least for me |
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| 20:30.54 | miesco | greycat: What is your wm? |
| 20:30.57 | teraflops | miesco: what |
| 20:31.11 | teraflops | sorry I'm on the phone |
| 20:31.15 | greycat | teraflops: does this thing listen on a given port, or a unix domain socket, or something? Can miesco find it by doing an lsof on whatever that thing is that it listens to? |
| 20:31.27 | greycat | miesco: fvwm |
| 20:32.26 | teraflops | greycat: xmonad do a good job. I import a library and then it integrates with the whole system. in general is a dbus thingy afaik |
| 20:32.40 | miesco | teraflops: If you go to aptitude, it says http://i.imgur.com/gJAmKfD.png |
| 20:32.48 | greycat | so is there a way to ask what all the "dbus thingies" are? |
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| 20:33.50 | blawiz | anyone using sc here? seems some of the shortcuts doesnt work on my install (stretch) |
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| 20:34.39 | teraflops | miesco: I'm not dunst user. what I tried to day is that notification-daemon uses whatever notification thing you install like the link I linked. |
| 20:34.42 | BrainBug[BE] | greycat, I guess /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service |
| 20:35.59 | greycat | O dpm |
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| 20:36.17 | greycat | I don't have that. I have the directory, and it has files in it. They're small text files. Maybe miesco has that file and he can read it. |
| 20:36.36 | teraflops | miesco: sorry my typos |
| 20:36.54 | BrainBug[BE] | greycat, neither do I but miesco might. Miesco maybe this helps: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/89016/notifications-and-notification-daemon-not-working-on-window-manager |
| 20:37.00 | miesco | teraflops: I think they might replace notification-daemon |
| 20:37.28 | teraflops | miesco: ah I thought the other way around |
| 20:37.52 | cilkay | Hello. I'm creating a Debian VirtualBox VM via a preseed install. I see an error flash by on the Alt-F4 console. I'd like to direct that console to a file that persists so that I can analyze it on first boot. How would I do that? |
| 20:38.19 | cilkay | I don't see anything interesting in syslog or dmesg. |
| 20:38.25 | cilkay | ... on first boot |
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| 20:38.44 | turbo64 | is there a way to use ubuntu PPAs in debian |
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| 20:39.19 | teraflops | miesco: as in if you do notify-send it works with any notification daemon |
| 20:39.20 | x86iac | why would you ? what program you looking for |
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| 20:39.53 | teraflops | but I really shut up since I don't do dunst |
| 20:40.09 | turbo64 | theres a foobar2000 clone called foobnix i wanted to try |
| 20:40.31 | turbo64 | i can compile it from source but ive been curious how ubuntu packages would install on debian |
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| 20:40.59 | greycat | I'd build from source if possible. It's usually cleaner/safer. |
| 20:41.03 | miesco | ... |
| 20:41.04 | turbo64 | im guessing it would work fine if all the dependencies are satisfied but jessie's packages are probably too old |
| 20:41.09 | turbo64 | yeah |
| 20:41.28 | miesco | I installed xfce4-notifyd to test, it brought in like 5 packages. I am removing it, and no other packages are being removed... |
| 20:41.30 | turbo64 | this is probably not a popular opinion but i think ubuntu is the worst thing that ever happened to linux |
| 20:42.03 | teraflops | then do not frankendebianize your debian |
| 20:42.15 | turbo64 | yeah im not gonna |
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| 20:42.31 | BrainBug[BE] | teraflops, lol. |
| 20:42.39 | turbo64 | im thinking of upgrading to testing but im always worried ill end up breaking everything |
| 20:43.10 | cilkay | turbo64: You could build from source in a Debian VM and pay attention to what you needed to do to get it to work. Then, you can create your own Debian package from those steps. |
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| 20:43.15 | miesco | Why isn't aptitude deleting these files with an A flag? |
| 20:46.00 | dondelelcaro | miesco: you can always go aptitude why foopkg; and it will tell you |
| 20:46.28 | miesco | dondelelcaro: Luckly there is /var/log/aptitude; I manually removed them alll... |
| 20:46.46 | miesco | But I don't like that AT ALL |
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| 20:47.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there some chat server that one could install and have up in a couple of minutes to replace chatting with 2-3 people via gtalk? |
| 20:47.11 | miesco | If a package brings in other packages, I NEED them to all go when I remove that original package |
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| 20:47.21 | dondelelcaro | miesco: what about it? packages with an A were automatically installed, and if nothing depends on them anymore, they'll be removed |
| 20:47.33 | x86iac | miesco: purge? |
| 20:47.42 | miesco | dondelelcaro: Well apparantly not in this case |
| 20:47.57 | dondelelcaro | miesco: well, that's why the aptitude why foopkg; output is useful |
| 20:48.15 | dondelelcaro | miesco: it's likely that there is a package which suggests or recommends that package, or maybe something else odd happened |
| 20:48.24 | cilkay | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't know about "a couple of minutes" but Rocket Chat and Mattermost are supposed to be open source alternatives to Slack. They're both on my TODO list to try. |
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| 20:49.27 | miesco | install: http://i.imgur.com/N6UH0e2.png and when deleting: http://i.imgur.com/xyo2JKg.png |
| 20:49.29 | miesco | dondelelcaro: Look there |
| 20:49.31 | miesco | I just did that |
| 20:49.43 | miesco | greycat: Do you know why? |
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| 20:50.18 | greycat | Do I know why what? |
| 20:50.19 | dondelelcaro | miesco: what about it? the first and second look totally normal to me |
| 20:50.47 | dondelelcaro | miesco: you asked to install xfce4-notifyd, so the packages were scheduled to be installed. You then asked that it be removed, so those packages are no longer automatically being installed |
| 20:51.34 | miesco | dondelelcaro: They are not being removed |
| 20:51.47 | miesco | greycat: Why my auto installed packages are not being removed |
| 20:51.49 | dondelelcaro | miesco: did you complete the install between those two images? |
| 20:51.55 | miesco | dondelelcaro: Yes |
| 20:52.03 | dondelelcaro | miesco: so what does aptitude why xfconf; say? |
| 20:52.44 | dondelelcaro | or aptitude why libxfce4util6; |
| 20:53.07 | dondelelcaro | is going to guess that it's something which Recommends: or Suggests: xfconf |
| 20:54.01 | BrainBug[BE] | apt-get autoremove normally works to clean up stuff... |
| 20:54.32 | miesco | dondelelcaro: Oh interesting, they are all being deleted when I install something after xfce4-notifyd is already uninstalled |
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| 20:58.29 | gho | hi is there a way to easily get a more recent kde on debian stable? |
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| 21:00.53 | turbo64 | upgrading to stretch inb4 my laptop explodes |
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| 21:01.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | cilkay, never heard of them |
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| 21:08.26 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21 06:53 lucid_lime <- what does the 6 mean and how do I make it a 5? |
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| 21:10.48 | x86iac | that is the link count ... why would you want/think you should change it? |
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| 21:12.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | cilkay, those aren't packaged... but... ejabberd? |
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| 21:13.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno... it should be a bit better than unix talk on the shell |
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| 21:14.02 | Hello71 | !xy |
| 21:14.02 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
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| 21:16.02 | plasmoduck | x86iac: |
| 21:16.04 | plasmoduck | because |
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| 21:16.12 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21 06:53 lucid_lime |
| 21:16.13 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 prosilver |
| 21:16.19 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 subsilver2 |
| 21:16.24 | plasmoduck | notice the rest are 5 |
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| 21:16.58 | teraflops | I tried vuvuzela recently is not a quick setup thingy at all but looks promising. it also has a Web interface. |
| 21:17.16 | plasmoduck | and lucid_lime which I just downloaded, isn't showing up in phpbb3 ACP > Board settings > Default style |
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| 21:17.28 | plasmoduck | So I'm guessing it's cause it's a 6 not a 5 |
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| 21:19.07 | x86iac | wrong |
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| 21:19.51 | plasmoduck | why the hell isn't it showing up then? |
| 21:19.53 | Hello71 | nah, it's because the name doesn't have "silver" in it, you need to rename it to lucidsilver |
| 21:20.01 | plasmoduck | I really? |
| 21:20.06 | Hello71 | oh, and also the mtime is wrong, you need to change that too |
| 21:20.07 | Hello71 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.29 | plasmoduck | how do I change that? |
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| 21:20.47 | x86iac | touch |
| 21:20.57 | Hello71 | ... |
| 21:21.54 | x86iac | we should have played hangman with him t.... |
| 21:22.04 | plasmoduck | just 'touch lucidsilver' ? |
| 21:22.34 | plasmoduck | still not showing up :/ |
| 21:23.07 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21 07:20 lucidsilver |
| 21:23.07 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 prosilver |
| 21:23.12 | Hello71 | facepalms |
| 21:23.13 | plasmoduck | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19 19:23 subsilver2 |
| 21:23.58 | plasmoduck | a little guidance please I have been stuck trying to get this working for over an hour |
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| 21:24.40 | plasmoduck | the instructions just say to extract it to /usr/share/phpbb3/styles and symlink it to /etc/phpbb3/styles |
| 21:24.43 | plasmoduck | which I did |
| 21:24.59 | plasmoduck | and then it should show up... but nooooooo it doesn't want to show up now does it! |
| 21:25.11 | plasmoduck | nothing ever want's to show up for me |
| 21:25.30 | plasmoduck | things like hiding from me |
| 21:25.47 | miesco | Im going to try restarting and see if notification-daemon works |
| 21:25.53 | plasmoduck | please |
| 21:26.04 | plasmoduck | x86iac: Hello71: ? |
| 21:26.11 | plasmoduck | what am I missing |
| 21:26.51 | x86iac | did you do the link correctly? |
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| 21:27.21 | x86iac | ls -l /etc/phpbb3/styles |
| 21:27.41 | plasmoduck | ln -s /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucid_lime/ /etc/phpbb3/styles/ |
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| 21:28.36 | x86iac | is that what you typed it said to do at x:24:18 |
| 21:28.46 | plasmoduck | it didn't say how to do it |
| 21:29.11 | x86iac | you said the instructions just say to ... |
| 21:29.30 | plasmoduck | it said to symlink it |
| 21:29.39 | plasmoduck | But didn't say the command, I messed up |
| 21:30.00 | x86iac | styles linked? and not lucid_lime? |
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| 21:30.47 | plasmoduck | omg seriously... |
| 21:31.21 | plasmoduck | from: /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver# I done ls /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/ |
| 21:31.24 | plasmoduck | is that correct? |
| 21:31.39 | plasmoduck | ls -a |
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| 21:31.46 | plasmoduck | wait |
| 21:31.47 | plasmoduck | wtf |
| 21:31.51 | miesco | Okay, I get this with notify-osd: ** (notify-osd:4521): WARNING **: dbus_create_service_instance(): Got error "/usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally without any error message" |
| 21:31.55 | plasmoduck | ln -s |
| 21:33.54 | miesco | Which is funny because... I don't have a `/usr/bin/dbus-launch`~ |
| 21:35.05 | miesco | Okay I installed 'dbus-x11' and it all works |
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| 21:36.39 | plasmoduck | . /etc/phpbb3/styles# ln -s /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver/ |
| 21:37.08 | plasmoduck | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Jul 21 07:35 lucidsilver -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver/ |
| 21:37.08 | plasmoduck | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 13 2015 prosilver -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/prosilver |
| 21:37.08 | plasmoduck | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 May 13 2015 subsilver2 -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/subsilver2 |
| 21:37.17 | plasmoduck | wtf isn't it showing up |
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| 21:39.00 | plasmoduck | its broken |
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| 21:40.01 | x86iac | get real instructions for what you want to do |
| 21:40.59 | plasmoduck | oh here it is |
| 21:41.01 | plasmoduck | rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 672 Jul 21 06:53 lucidsilver/style.cfg |
| 21:41.13 | plasmoduck | should be like this |
| 21:41.14 | plasmoduck | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 643 Sep 28 2013 subsilver2/style.cfg |
| 21:41.23 | plasmoduck | what do I have to chmod it too? |
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| 21:42.04 | x86iac | i'm guessing a cfg file is a config file and the 644 gives read access to everything |
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| 21:42.15 | plasmoduck | yes |
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| 21:43.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | cilkay, oh, Prosody is packaged for debian and looks ok, let's see |
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| 21:50.32 | chaddy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:55.34 | sine0 | is anyone familiar with putting debian/netinstall on a usb |
| 21:55.46 | sine0 | can I just cp iso directly onto the sdb |
| 21:56.15 | chaddy | dd is the preferred method, I believe |
| 21:56.24 | vic | sine0: ^^ cp will not work |
| 21:56.37 | chaddy | sudo dd if=/your/iso/file.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 21:57.00 | chaddy | then sync |
| 21:57.16 | zykotick9 | vic: ahhh cp works fine for making debian iso->usb... just sayin' |
| 21:57.25 | vic | wat!? |
| 21:57.53 | zykotick9 | vic: "sudo cp debian.iso /dev/sdb" then "sync" for example. |
| 21:58.15 | vic | huh, ok I never thought of that |
| 21:58.18 | vic | TIL |
| 21:58.58 | vic | I'm used to people who would burn an ISO onto their CD.. having worked with Windows so much this was a common problem. |
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| 22:00.24 | sine0 | ok cool chaddy. Do I need to format the usb first |
| 22:00.37 | fryguy | no |
| 22:00.45 | zykotick9 | sine0: NO, it will over write everything. |
| 22:00.46 | chaddy | sine0: no, dd will blast it down to the foundations |
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| 22:03.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | vic, this is different... you don't copy it on the filesystem on the stick, you copy it to the raw device... windows has no raw devices exposed like that |
| 22:04.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | sine0, make sure you don't write to the wrong device |
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| 22:06.20 | sine0 | hehe |
| 22:06.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, no kidding |
| 22:06.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it's gone, it's gone |
| 22:07.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | â¦and only your backups remain |
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| 22:09.01 | sine0 | when using dd for a 600mb file, isnt it a good idea to set the packetsize |
| 22:09.04 | sine0 | or byte buffer thing |
| 22:09.14 | sine0 | like one is quicker than the other if i remember |
| 22:09.15 | TomTomTosch | just use cp. |
| 22:09.36 | TomTomTosch | cp is used in the official docs. |
| 22:11.23 | TomTomTosch | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid |
| 22:16.00 | miesco | How do I stop mpd from running by the systeM? (I run as user) |
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| 22:18.00 | TomTomTosch | if you don't want a service to run on startup you can use systemctl disable mpd.service or systemctl stop if you just want to stop it for now. |
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| 22:20.50 | miesco | Is it normal to have like 7 dbus-launch's running? |
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| 22:34.44 | miesco | ? |
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| 22:49.09 | doebi | when is the chromium package going to be updated? |
| 22:49.42 | doebi | i am waiting for a bugfix for more than six weeks now. |
| 22:50.52 | TomTomTosch | ask google when the next chromium version comes out? |
| 22:51.11 | x86iac | do you think they are just waiting for you to raise real hell? |
| 22:51.33 | jelly | ,v chromium |
| 22:51.34 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 50.0.2661.94-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 51.0.2704.79-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 51.0.2704.79-1~deb8u1; stretch: 51.0.2704.79-1; sid: 51.0.2704.79-1 |
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| 22:53.18 | x86iac | turns out they are waiting for you to post a youtube video of you yelling and screaming for the next release .. |
| 22:53.25 | BaW | damn |
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| 22:54.35 | jelly | TomTomTosch, upstream is at 51.0.2704.10 |
| 22:54.40 | jelly | .106 |
| 22:56.00 | jelly | https://omahaproxy.appspot.com/viewer |
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| 22:57.12 | sine0 | damn. changing the SSD 128GB in my new HP laptop for a spare 500GB scsi will not work because there is no connections for the harddrive and the SSD is smaller than the ram slot! might as well be a usb drive ffs |
| 22:57.36 | sine0 | now i will have to clonezilla the ssd with windows 10 to keep my license |
| 22:57.43 | sine0 | amirite |
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| 23:15.21 | TomTomTosch | fine, i retract my statement and change it to "as soon as the changes in upstream warrant a version bump". which a few patches don't. |
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| 23:17.13 | x86iac | TomTomTosch: to late ... i already edited the video of trigglypuff to demand the new version ... and sent it for you ;) |
| 23:17.34 | x86iac | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trigglypuff |
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| 23:21.35 | TomTomTosch | why the mockery? his question was justified. |
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| 23:23.16 | doebi | trolls be trolling |
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| 23:27.02 | tom99 | uh did TomTomTosch refer to himself in the 3rd person there? o_o |
| 23:27.25 | TomTomTosch | did he? |
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| 23:28.11 | tom99 | holds up the symbol of st. ignucious of the church of emacs to ward off bad grammar |
| 23:29.07 | TomTomTosch | no, i did not refer to myself. |
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| 23:30.08 | sl4v3 | can anyone tell me how to enable anonymous access to openldap? |
| 23:30.26 | sl4v3 | i'm trying to get an answer to this, but all i find are legacy solutions for when there's an actual slapd.conf. |
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| 23:35.32 | x86iac | self trolling? |
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| 23:36.41 | x86iac | sl4v3: is this what you didn't want in slapd.conf ? <who> ::= * | [anonymous | users | self | dn[.<basic-style>]=<regex> | dn.<scope-style>=<DN>] |
| 23:37.52 | x86iac | why don't you want to have a slapd.conf? |
| 23:38.19 | sl4v3 | x86iac: well, i guess that's the "old" way. :) |
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| 23:41.15 | sl4v3 | x86iac: slapd configuration is just laid out in /etc/ldap/slapd.d |
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| 23:42.20 | x86iac | what is the 'new' way? do you have a link |
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| 23:44.19 | Neo | anyone know how to get ifup to do more logging? |
| 23:44.32 | Neo | all I have in my syslog is: "ifup[505]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists" |
| 23:44.43 | Neo | which is kinda ambiguous |
| 23:44.46 | sl4v3 | x86iac: i have no idea. that's what i'm trying to find out. at present, it seems to require authentication. |
| 23:47.28 | x86iac | Neo: can you start the driver in 'debug' mode? it should go to /var/log/messages (i compiled my driver in debug mode and it bombarded my /var/log/messages) |
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| 23:49.27 | Neo | x86iac: I think its a config issue, not a driver issue. I've added scripts to my /etc/network/interfaces file and I think that's what's causing me pain |
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| 23:50.02 | x86iac | in your *syslog.conf file kern.*/var/log/messages |
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| 23:50.29 | Neo | AH wait I've got it 'ip -6 route add default via <gw> dev eth0' throws up |
| 23:50.53 | Neo | probably because my v6 tunnel gets started before eth0 for some reason |
| 23:51.18 | x86iac | if all else fails bring up eth0 in /etc/rc.local |
| 23:51.41 | x86iac | i had to do that so eth0 would be up before sshd started |
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