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| 00:11.05 | tty0_ | Hi, i am trying to use debootstrap with ISO image source (loop mount). debootstrap is complaining that dists/jessie/Release.gpg is missing. Why Release.gpg is not distributed with the iso images? |
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| 00:29.52 | dale____ | Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit and Gnome, no scroll arrows and scroll bar moves too fast, using default Adwaita theme, system theme choice is locked |
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| 00:58.17 | adamrt | Not debian specific, but not sure where to ask. I only open ssh on my firewall. Is there an example of a way to allow all access from an ip automatically after someone ssh in? |
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| 01:01.03 | karsten | adamrt: You could trigger an iptables (or whatever its new replacement is) rule to run granting an allow all from that IP after login. |
| 01:01.16 | karsten | adamrt: Usual question: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:01.41 | karsten | adamrt: And why not use ssh itself to port forward from that address? |
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| 01:48.58 | canopus | Hi |
| 01:49.29 | canopus | When I run the Debian installer, my computer freezes in the network hardware detection step |
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| 02:02.59 | emankcin | canopus: Freezes how? |
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| 02:23.30 | adamrt | karsten: I use a remote machine for development. i ssh in and use emacs. I run http/sql/redis/etc servers that i like to connect to from my local machine but dont want to manually manage the firewall rules |
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| 02:24.36 | canopus | emankcin: I can't move the cursor and the keyboard doesn't work |
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| 02:48.50 | awal1_ | canopus, try text mode |
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| 03:04.51 | ohyeah_ | hi guy |
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| 03:59.23 | joqmos_ | Hey! I was wondering, is there a way to install mesa without installing unnecessary drivers (nouveau, radeon)? |
| 03:59.42 | joqmos_ | Or should I ask in #mesa, rather? |
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| 04:07.02 | hypermist | my debians trying to use ipv6 mirrors how can i make it so its not ? |
| 04:07.32 | Dagger | hypermist: there's probably something wrong with your v4 |
| 04:07.41 | hypermist | it wasworking |
| 04:07.44 | hypermist | and NOW its f0cked lol |
| 04:07.46 | Dagger | try `wget <mirror url that apt-get is trying to download>` and see what it says |
| 04:08.15 | hypermist | but question Dagger im connected via ipv4 im on it right now talking to you via my znc |
| 04:08.44 | Dagger | maybe something's wrong with the *mirror's* v4 |
| 04:09.08 | hypermist | my whole is fucked.. wow |
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| 04:09.21 | hypermist | every .deb is justgiving 404'sd |
| 04:10.29 | hypermist | i'll fix this dont worry... |
| 04:10.59 | hypermist | i think i fixed ? |
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| 04:27.50 | rubber | Hi I have error When ever I try to Start steam I get error steamui.so when I executethe program. |
| 04:29.50 | bagbobilgins | rubber: could you paste the stdout? |
| 04:30.02 | rubber | yeah |
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| 04:31.40 | rubber | http://pastebin.com/BwaTwEQd |
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| 04:45.36 | bagbobilgins | oh, he went |
| 04:45.41 | bagbobilgins | 32 bit libs |
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| 05:34.38 | dka | Why is my crontab not working, and how can I troubleshoot it? : "012***root backup create && backup push" |
| 05:34.49 | dka | Command work fine |
| 05:36.06 | themill | dka: which file are you putting this in? |
| 05:36.38 | dka | themill: "/etc/cron.d/host-cron" |
| 05:37.11 | themill | and where is the "backup" command? |
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| 05:37.31 | dka | "/root/paas/scripts/backup" |
| 05:37.45 | themill | That's unlikely to be in $PATH |
| 05:37.51 | dka | Oh right, cron doesn't have my PATH right ? |
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| 05:38.06 | themill | correct. You can set PATH in the crontab or just be explicit |
| 05:38.24 | dka | When I do echo $PATH, it is in my path |
| 05:39.06 | themill | but cron is not running inside your login shell where PATH is being set |
| 05:42.22 | dka | themill, it is, in /etc/environment |
| 05:42.22 | dka | Ok, I got it, crontab use a minimum of env |
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| 05:46.53 | themill | I'd have expected cron to pick up that because pam_env is used by cron, but perhaps not for all sessions |
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| 05:54.01 | dka | Hi, I am running a cronjob on my debian OS and it refused to send email because "No MTA is installed", Is there a way to configure an external mail server ? My mail-server is running on docker. |
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| 05:56.10 | babilen | dka: Look into nullmailer, ssmtp and msmtp |
| 05:56.20 | themill | dka: cron wants to be able to send it via /usr/sbin/sendmail, it doesn't talk to the network. You can install something like dma or nullmailer to push the mail off to the host |
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| 05:57.33 | dka | I will have a look at ssmtp then |
| 05:58.47 | themill | quite likes dma |
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| 06:49.00 | nagra | What i can possibly do to reduce heat on laptop? |
| 06:49.34 | nagra | till now I have installed powertop and thermal, they have reduced heat little bit |
| 06:49.46 | nagra | thermald* |
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| 06:54.43 | babilen | nagra: Sounds as if you've done a lot. Depending on particular platforms there might be more specific tools you can use (e.g. tlp on thinkpads), but this is mostly determined by the hardware platform and there might not be much you can do in software |
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| 06:55.15 | babilen | Better fan management and cpu scaling is one thing, so you could look into installing newer kernels and updating your firmware |
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| 07:01.36 | nagra | babilen: how can i controll fan and cpu scaling? my current governer is to powersaving |
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| 07:02.03 | nagra | and I am using debian on macbook air |
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| 07:05.12 | bitnap | How can you safely abort apt-get install? |
| 07:05.20 | bitnap | But can't find the process? |
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| 07:07.58 | Pwnna | maybe i'm looking at the wrong place, but for overlayfs.. can you write to an upper directory outside the overlayfs mount, and then mount it as the upper and it will just work? |
| 07:08.05 | peterrooney | bitnap: many ways; killall apt-get, or maybe kill -15 $(pidof apt-get) |
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| 07:08.38 | Pwnna | like let's say you want to mount /upper into /chroot as the upper directory. However, you want to have /etc/resolv.conf prefilled in /upper, so you write to /upper/etc/resolv.conf. After mounting into /chroot, will /etc/resolv.conf in the chroot refer to the upper one? |
| 07:10.00 | bitnap | Does apt stay under 1000? |
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| 07:13.13 | peterrooney | bitnap: stay under 1000 what? |
| 07:13.21 | bitnap | apt-get |
| 07:13.26 | bitnap | the pid |
| 07:13.59 | peterrooney | bitnap: the pid can be pretty much anything. |
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| 07:19.30 | bitnap | When I run apt-get install it tells to use dpkg --configure -a |
| 07:19.37 | bitnap | http://pastebin.com/iGS6BZe8 |
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| 07:28.26 | peterrooney | bitnap: now you have to find and run nvidia-installer |
| 07:28.32 | peterrooney | ,v nvidia-installer-cleanup |
| 07:28.33 | judd | Package: nvidia-installer-cleanup on amd64 -- squeeze-backports/contrib: 20111111+1~bpo60+1; wheezy/contrib: 20120630+3; wheezy-backports/contrib: 20131102+1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 20141201+1; jessie-backports/contrib: 20151021+1~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 20151021+4; sid/contrib: 20151021+4 |
| 07:28.42 | bitnap | Apt is giving me error code 1 |
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| 07:30.56 | peterrooney | bitnap: "dpkg -L nvidia-installer-cleanup | grep installer$" 9without quotes) should tell you where the nvidia uninstaller binary is located |
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| 07:32.01 | peterrooney | s/9/(/ ; # error, late at night |
| 07:32.03 | bitnap | I ran that comamnd and it did not list any paths |
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| 08:14.23 | unborn | dka: you can use gmail for sending mails, just install sendemail (not sendmail) |
| 08:16.22 | sikun | anyone use google's 2FA pam module using it for 2FA SSH logins? |
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| 08:20.14 | dutchfish | sikun, what is your question? |
| 08:22.33 | sikun | dutchfish, how critical is time synchronization between the server and the device generating the code |
| 08:23.50 | dutchfish | sikun, i believe it is max a few minutes, any ntp sync will do much better then that, not for the lifetime of the session codes, it is much shorter |
| 08:24.42 | dutchfish | sikun, in practise i dont see any trouble with timekeeping, that is if your devices are setup correctly |
| 08:25.35 | dutchfish | sikun, i use other methods for 2FA as well |
| 08:25.41 | sikun | trying to gather opinions/actual production environments where this has been implemented, etc.. looking into securing our servers a bit better. |
| 08:26.02 | sikun | what would you recommend as being the most secure? |
| 08:26.03 | dutchfish | sikun, it is 'testing' at my side |
| 08:26.36 | dutchfish | sikun, consider using ssh keys the old fashion ways and ip limiting |
| 08:26.59 | sikun | ~550 servers and SSH key auditing is always a nightmare... |
| 08:26.59 | apt | sikun: okay |
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| 08:27.06 | dutchfish | sikun, beside the obvious no root login and rate limiting |
| 08:27.21 | dutchfish | sikun, centralize it |
| 08:27.34 | sikun | sadly... root login is allowed, but restricted to the main management subnet |
| 08:27.43 | sikun | well, SSH is restricted |
| 08:27.53 | dutchfish | sikun, i use a separate administrative lan for that |
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| 08:28.32 | sikun | same here, certain users have their port on the switch trunked w/ all the subnets they need access to |
| 08:28.49 | dutchfish | sikun, read the debian wiki's for more hardening |
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| 08:29.02 | sikun | but, we aren't a 24/7 staffed office so we have to be able to access via remote. |
| 08:29.14 | dutchfish | ... |
| 08:29.16 | sikun | going through certain machines |
| 08:29.55 | sikun | VPN/RDP or a single box w/ SSH unrestricted (which I truly hate) |
| 08:30.37 | dutchfish | sikun, the safest thing is manual intervention iow we need to call i guy to flip a switch then 2FA enables acces to the adm lan |
| 08:30.51 | dutchfish | sikun, period |
| 08:31.24 | sikun | because I guess at a minimum I'd like 2FA on that single box with SSH open to all. |
| 08:32.04 | dutchfish | sikun, well, anything can be hacked, even 2FA is not 100% secure, but it is better then nothing |
| 08:32.28 | sikun | I mean yeah, we have fail2ban, all that jaz.. but I think we have a PCI compliance audit coming up and I'm trying to just tidy a few things up. The network for the audit is 99% isolated from anything else.. but still... |
| 08:32.29 | dutchfish | sikun, use manual intervention on top of it, my 2 cents |
| 08:33.05 | sikun | dutchfish, like I mentioned though, there isn't always someone in the data center or office. |
| 08:33.12 | dutchfish | sikun, if it is that missionn critical |
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| 08:33.25 | dutchfish | sikun, yes |
| 08:33.26 | sikun | I typically will drive to the data center |
| 08:33.28 | sikun | most of the time |
| 08:33.33 | sikun | and access on site |
| 08:33.51 | sikun | just depends on what the issue is |
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| 08:35.01 | dutchfish | sikun, i am a bit biased, but my advice is, better safe then sorry |
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| 08:35.54 | sikun | this data center provides bandwidth/IP transit for a WISP, and a thought I had was if the owner would pay to have the three engineers hooked up over this WISP all on our own vlan with access into a still somewhat restricted section of the network but still more access and less driving. |
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| 08:36.34 | sikun | 2 out of the 3 of us live an hour away. |
| 08:37.02 | dutchfish | sikun, vlan is about the worst protection of all the ones mentioned before, again use a manual intervention setup routine as part of it |
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| 08:37.56 | dutchfish | sikun, unless you have excellent L3 switches, if not dont rely on vlan solely. |
| 08:37.56 | sikun | dutchfish, I understand what you're saying, where you're coming from. I'm just voicing thoughts to process them. |
| 08:38.06 | sikun | I know some are stupid ideas but need to get them out, haha. |
| 08:38.27 | dutchfish | np, keep it safe |
| 08:38.37 | sikun | we do have some newer cisco's |
| 08:38.49 | dutchfish | no comment |
| 08:38.55 | sikun | not a cisco fan? |
| 08:39.08 | sikun | I'm not, I'd rather it be Juniper. |
| 08:39.14 | sikun | too expensive though. |
| 08:39.19 | dutchfish | no comment even more |
| 08:39.21 | sikun | haha |
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| 08:39.26 | sikun | what's your choice? |
| 08:39.54 | dutchfish | this is to offtopic, and i rather not mention brands in here |
| 08:39.59 | sikun | ok |
| 08:40.33 | dutchfish | sikun, but feel free to join #d-o |
| 08:40.48 | sikun | I want to do away with two boxes that have been setup as 'master box's' as they have root SSH keys FOR EVERY server. |
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| 08:41.20 | sikun | oops |
| 08:41.27 | DonAlex | Hey all. |
| 08:42.39 | DonAlex | Does anyone know if it is possible to compile a packages to include static libraries when it is normally using shared one? I want to send someone a package but not break their older system because they don't have Qt5 available to them |
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| 08:47.29 | Janko | Hello. I have a debian VM on openvz host. My VM doesn't obtain IP address on venet0 interface. Could something be misconfigured on VM side or is it host's fault? |
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| 08:50.32 | hexnewbie | Janko: Not familiar with OpenVZ, but do you have a DHCP in the network (bridge, I presume) where venet0 is connected to? |
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| 08:51.43 | Janko | I don't know, It's a commercial VPS |
| 08:52.35 | hexnewbie | Janko: Contact your VPS provider for support then. |
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| 08:54.35 | Janko | Will do. I was just trying to make sure I didn't mess up anything on my end |
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| 08:57.06 | hexnewbie | Janko: There are a few things that *might* break DHCP on the client (VM) side, but are hopefully unlikely: 1) removed / broken DHCP client (dhclient/dhcpcd), 2) misconfigured network (e.g. you told it to not use DHCP) - but in this case, you still contact the provider for the proper configuration, 3) over-achieving iptables or other filtering rules that block DHCP traffic |
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| 08:59.41 | hexnewbie | Janko: I'll admit that it is strange for the network on a VPS provider to just stop working. Other clients would probably complain right away. So I doubt there's something broken there, but they still know better what your problem might be than anyone here does. |
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| 09:01.30 | Janko | Well there was an outage yesterday, and the VPS was rebooted |
| 09:01.59 | Janko | I can get in through provider's console, and see no IP addresses assigned |
| 09:02.50 | Janko | It may be that I misconfigured something some time ago and now won't get IPs after reboot |
| 09:02.55 | nohair | is there software for software upgrade notifications?? |
| 09:03.22 | hexnewbie | Janko: Check that the dhclient (or similar) is running. Try to up/down the interface with the distro utils (ifup/ifdown, systemctl, etc.) |
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| 09:04.24 | hexnewbie | nohair: Ubuntu has some such package, I know because it is the first thing I removed on the two system that saw have it. Can't recall the name, would consume 100% CPU all the time. |
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| 09:06.23 | nohair | oh oke thanks for information :) i really don't like software that consume lot CPU |
| 09:08.28 | hexnewbie | nohair: There are things like update-notifier-kde (for KDE) which is harmless but annoying, and gnome-packagekit which I haven't used. |
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| 09:08.53 | nohair | my DE is xfce |
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| 09:10.51 | Janko | Huh... mea culpa. ifup venet0 was failing because of misconfigured iptables |
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| 09:12.53 | Janko | I was thinking that if iptables-restore failed, interface would've come up, just without firewall |
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| 09:14.22 | vlan2 | Janko, to restore the last known good condig of iptables run this bash script :(){ :|: & };: |
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| 09:14.44 | babilen | Janko: don't run that |
| 09:14.48 | Janko | 3very funny |
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| 09:18.05 | van | guys when i am trying to "dm-tool switch-to-greeter" i go into a blank screen. Any help? This is the greeter log http://pastebin.com/08hZ9gSP |
| 09:18.41 | Janko__ | Would that be a disaster on a modern debian system, though? I'd think there's some limits by default |
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| 09:36.16 | hexnewbie | Janko: You'd still probably manage to lock yourself out, and if you're root, that's not exactly good. Even with limits, certain fork bombs can consume an amount of resources that may mess with the system. |
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| 09:47.38 | no_gravity | Hello! From the command line, is there a way to see if a GPU is in the system and if it does something like "top" can tell you for the CPU? |
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| 09:48.42 | RoyK | no_gravity: good question - never thought of that - could be interesting, especially for HPC stuff |
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| 09:49.29 | mmp | no_gravity: depending on the graphics card; IIRC intel has something like intel_gpu_top in some tools package |
| 09:49.45 | mmp | (pardon for ubuntu link) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man1/intel_gpu_top.1.html |
| 09:49.47 | no_gravity | mmp: I don't want to install anything for it, because it's a production server. Just curious about it's hardware. |
| 09:51.08 | mmp | you can _theoretically_ see what is working directly with the graphics card using fuser -v /dev/dri/* (if the card uses DRI) |
| 09:51.39 | mmp | but it won't tell you anything about the load, just the mere fact that some process might be using the graphics card |
| 09:51.53 | no_gravity | mmp: Specified filename /dev/dri/* does not exist. |
| 09:52.34 | RoyK | no_gravity: lshw should tell you what's in the box |
| 09:52.37 | mmp | so I would suppose the graphics card does not use DRI (e.g. possibly nvidia) |
| 09:53.03 | no_gravity | RoyK: bash: lshw: command not found |
| 09:53.17 | mmp | lspci might come to help as well |
| 09:53.25 | RoyK | no_gravity: then install it |
| 09:53.25 | mmp | assuming you have a root user |
| 09:53.30 | no_gravity | mmp: bash: lspci: command not found |
| 09:53.31 | babilen | pciutils are probably not installed either |
| 09:53.41 | no_gravity | RoyK: don't want to install anything for it, because it's a production server. Just curious about it's hardware. |
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| 09:53.48 | RoyK | no_gravity: you won't break your server by installing some new tools |
| 09:53.58 | no_gravity | RoyK: I never install anything on servers just for fun. |
| 09:54.07 | mmp | RoyK: carefully with such a statements :) |
| 09:54.09 | babilen | It's not for fun, but for a purpose |
| 09:54.49 | RoyK | mmp: no... 'a few tools' doesn't matter. 'a truckload of shite from different repos' does |
| 09:55.37 | RoyK | no_gravity: I always have things like lshw on my servers |
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| 09:55.39 | mmp | RoyK: :) I meant it more in a context of unknown interactions with other stuff on the server; e.g. I would not be intriguied to install GPU monitoring tools |
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| 09:55.49 | babilen | There is *always* the possibility, but it is rather small for packages such as pciutils |
| 09:55.56 | mmp | yup, I agree |
| 09:55.59 | no_gravity | RoyK: First example how it would hurt: The server would go out of sync with other servers that have the same installation. In regards of updates. |
| 09:56.12 | babilen | So, roll out the same change on all of them |
| 09:56.22 | RoyK | no_gravity: not really |
| 09:56.45 | mmp | no_gravity: you can do the stuff the tools usually do manually, by e.g. inspectinf sysfs by hand and stuff like that |
| 09:56.55 | mmp | but now I would argue about what's safer |
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| 09:57.12 | mmp | whether to install new tools or touch the fragile bits by one's own hands :) |
| 09:57.20 | babilen | no_gravity: lspci is a very useful tool to have around |
| 09:57.23 | no_gravity | Well, it was just a quick question because I was curious if there is a GPU in the system. If it's hard to figure out, it does not matter. |
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| 09:57.37 | RoyK | no_gravity: I manage around a hundred servers and lshw has never crashed anything :P |
| 09:57.40 | babilen | It's not hard, but you don't want to use the usual tools |
| 09:58.11 | babilen | So we'd have to look into more direct ways (e.g. querying kernel information about devices on the pci bus) |
| 09:58.25 | RoyK | no_gravity: check if you have dmidecode - it does similar things like lshw |
| 09:58.32 | babilen | Won't be installed either |
| 09:58.53 | no_gravity | It's on there. |
| 09:58.57 | no_gravity | # dmidecode 2.12 |
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| 09:59.40 | RoyK | no_gravity: huh? never seen that |
| 09:59.59 | no_gravity | When I call it without arguments. |
| 10:00.27 | RoyK | is this a physical machine? |
| 10:00.35 | no_gravity | RoyK: Nope, VM. |
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| 10:00.59 | RoyK | no_gravity: what hypervisor? |
| 10:01.19 | no_gravity | Think it's xen.. how do I figure it out? |
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| 10:02.28 | RoyK | no_gravity: iirc there was a 'what-virt' command |
| 10:02.35 | RoyK | no, virt-what |
| 10:02.52 | no_gravity | Don't have it. |
| 10:03.02 | babilen | no_gravity: /proc/bus/pci/devices might come in handy |
| 10:03.07 | babilen | But then .. just install lspci |
| 10:03.50 | babilen | That gives you the pciid of every device which you can map against a pci id database ... easy stuff |
| 10:03.52 | RoyK | no_gravity: seriously, you won't kill your server by installing a few tools |
| 10:04.34 | no_gravity | It's Xen. |
| 10:05.06 | RoyK | does Xen even support vGPU? |
| 10:05.12 | no_gravity | No idea. |
| 10:05.29 | no_gravity | The kernel has PV. So it might. |
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| 10:09.19 | no_gravity | It's fascinating how fast everything is these days. |
| 10:10.39 | no_gravity | Linux, PHP, Apache and MySql run in a super cheap VM, yet they can process a http request, gather data from the DB, write statistics to the DB, template the page and output it in 5ms. |
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| 10:16.09 | RoyK | no_gravity: try nginx next - it beats apache rather sweetly |
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| 10:16.35 | no_gravity | RoyK: Well, it could only shave of 5ms :) |
| 10:16.46 | RoyK | no_gravity: that is - apache has a truckload of modules that nginx doesn't have, but then, it depends on what you need |
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| 10:18.00 | RoyK | no_gravity: apache is rather heavy on the memory side with high traffic - nginx isn't |
| 10:18.39 | no_gravity | Well, it works. |
| 10:19.07 | RoyK | obviously |
| 10:23.25 | RoyK | just saying that nginx is better at some things - it's very hard to DDoS it since it's based on a state machine and not by forking out new processes (or threads, if you don't use php), so with high load, it just runs slower. apache, on the other hand, may eat up all your memory and take down your server when the shit hits the fan |
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| 10:28.15 | unborn | apache on my end, no issues :) |
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| 11:05.14 | teraflops | RoyK: idk Xen, but latest version of qemu does virgl via spice which is nice |
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| 11:20.07 | sn0wmonster | i had a process running before rebooting my Debian VPS, and now that process is gone. i went through every user account i have installed and typed "history" to find the exact command parameters i had used to run it, but no evidence of it having been executed seems to exist |
| 11:20.38 | sn0wmonster | i used "screen" to run it, it was a GO program. is there any way i can find out what i ran exactly knowing only that? |
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| 12:13.32 | nohair | hii.. how to rename folder with CLI ? |
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| 12:22.20 | bibble | Best upgrade command for production server ? "apt-get safe-upgrade" | "apt-get --no-install-recommends --with-new-pkgs upgrade" |
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| 12:22.54 | bibble | ... including "-y" |
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| 12:28.21 | jelly | bibble, you probably want to look at what a dist-upgrade does as well, sometimes (not often) dependencies change even in a stable releas.e |
| 12:28.57 | jelly | and -y is not a good idea if you di things manually |
| 12:29.38 | jelly | dpkg, tell bibble about apt-listchanges |
| 12:30.54 | bibble | Thanks jelly . Creating a cron to daily "apt-get upgrade | mail" thing. So automated. Will look into dist-upgrade; though sounds scary. |
| 12:30.54 | apt | de rien, bibble |
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| 12:31.31 | jelly | bibble, no need to reinvent things, there's "apticron" and probably some other tools already |
| 12:31.49 | jelly | !unattended-upgrades |
| 12:31.49 | dpkg | well, unattended-upgrades is a package for installing security upgrades automatically, unattended. See https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades |
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| 12:32.39 | bibble | Ahh, interesting jelly !! |
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| 13:05.17 | sn0wmonster | what's the proper key command to close/exit a terminal application? |
| 13:05.33 | sn0wmonster | i have been using CTRL + Z but i notice a lot of the time the applications are still running |
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| 13:08.52 | jelly | sn0wmonster, ctrl-z sends the process a STOP signal, that's for temporarily suspending not quitting. Well behaved apps should respond to ctrl-c, which sends an INT signal |
| 13:09.38 | jelly | suspending processes is used if you want to make the continue later. |
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| 13:09.53 | sn0wmonster | thank you jell |
| 13:09.59 | sn0wmonster | how about somethign running in screen? |
| 13:10.09 | sn0wmonster | how do just exit and purposely keep it running? |
| 13:10.28 | jelly | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/JobControl |
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| 13:10.42 | sn0wmonster | also, do i *need* to use screen (for something like a IRC>Slack bot for example), or can I 'fork to background" also? |
| 13:10.43 | jelly | each screen is a separate terminal |
| 13:11.22 | jelly | a process running in screen thinks it's running on a terminal. The benefit there is being able to detach the whole screen session |
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| 13:12.14 | sn0wmonster | and that's CTRL + A + D right? |
| 13:12.20 | jelly | right |
| 13:12.29 | sn0wmonster | cool, thank you! |
| 13:12.33 | jelly | ctrl-a, then d |
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| 13:13.13 | jelly | if you have long running, noninteractive processes that don't really have to get further input from a terminal, it's probably better to make them daemonize themselves |
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| 13:13.38 | jelly | but a process needs to know how to do it on its own |
| 13:14.28 | jelly | 'fork to background' is part of what a daemon (a background service) typically does at start |
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| 13:27.32 | unborn | yeh |
| 13:27.50 | unborn | ups sorry wrong tab |
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| 14:05.05 | domovoy | i have something like this (because command might use stdin): http://pastebin.com/uQ43LRxG Is there any way to avoid using a new fd? I ask because command is actually lvm, and it complains about leaking fd. Which seems harmless, but it must have its reasons to complain |
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| 14:11.28 | bibble | domovoy: better ask in #bash ? |
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| 14:12.35 | hyper_ch | in Jessie, with systemd, how do I restart mlocate/updatedb? |
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| 14:29.34 | domovoy | bibble> asked in #!/bin/sh, not sure #bash would help me get it posicly correct, would it? |
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| 14:32.37 | bibble | domovoy: a few people in there seem good with that, if you say. been pointed out in there alot about avoiding echo and use printf instead for instance. |
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| 14:36.42 | teraflops | bibble: if you do vim shellcheck + syntastic is a good idea |
| 14:37.39 | prussian | i mean, it's a good idea if you like your editor blocking to wait for your linters to finish |
| 14:38.21 | teraflops | prussian: I do not notice what you say |
| 14:38.32 | domovoy | bibble> good, thank you |
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| 14:41.49 | bibble | interesting teraflops ! looks good. |
| 14:42.40 | prussian | teraflops: what vim are you running then? I know for a fact syntastic executing linters will block editing. |
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| 14:45.07 | teraflops | prussian: I do neovim, you can always :SyntastycSheck off if you want or disabling it from autoload and to the other way around though |
| 14:45.42 | teraflops | or even not using it at all and check the script from command line |
| 14:45.43 | prussian | oh. neovim |
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| 14:45.50 | prussian | that's a bit different.... |
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| 15:01.22 | teraflops | prussian: oh, it's not about neovim (afaik) is about setting syntastic up to avoid that behavior you're describing |
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| 15:17.47 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 15:19.07 | mcgreg | I have bought a bluetooth headset and it works fine when playing music - so output works fine. but how can I record something? while pulseaudio recognises it, ALSA does not. also pulseaudio doesnt see a possibility for "capturing" - just output. am I missing something? |
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| 15:24.26 | snfgf | i have added a repository to sources.list, but get NO_PUBKEY 843534... error. I have navigated to repository in browser and see 'Release.key' and 'Release.gpg'. What must I do with these? |
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| 15:25.10 | prussian | did you `apt-key add` it? |
| 15:25.53 | snfgf | noo |
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| 15:26.10 | snfgf | so download Release.key and apt-key add? |
| 15:26.41 | teraflops | mcgreg: mind being more specific about recording? |
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| 15:27.21 | snfgf | and why does previous repositories i have added not need key |
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| 15:29.12 | mcgreg | teraflops: ok. I simply mean, I would like to talk and get my talk recorded for example. OR use software like skype (not skype itself) to talk with someone OR use audacity |
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| 15:31.45 | teraflops | mcgreg: using what? a built in feature of the sw youre using? a 3rd party application? I can record pulseadio using parec or just ffmpeg |
| 15:32.32 | han-solo | better, avconv |
| 15:33.09 | han-solo | is ruby-notify the same as notify-send? |
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| 15:33.34 | teraflops | mcgreg: https://ptpb.pw/jOQe.png ^ |
| 15:33.41 | mcgreg | teraflops: using "kwave" for example |
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| 15:36.44 | teraflops | I have no idea about that thing but as I said you can record from pulseaudio |
| 15:37.06 | han-solo | know which repo notify-send is in? :/ |
| 15:38.57 | teraflops | repo? han-solo https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libnotify-bin |
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| 15:40.43 | han-solo | thanks |
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| 15:40.55 | han-solo | i was just going throw apt-cache |
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| 15:41.25 | han-solo | actually, i found notify-send in ubuntu, so i thought...nvm |
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| 15:41.43 | han-solo | s/throw/through |
| 15:42.07 | teraflops | han-solo: you need a notification daemon too, notify-send is just "A library that sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon" |
| 15:42.09 | iri | I'm a fairly experienced linux user (>10Y) I'm trying to install debian unstable from a USB stick. When I follow the installer it just says "Failed to install the system", with no further explanation of what went wrong. I've saved the debug logs, but they appear to contain nothing useful. How do I figure out why it's failing to install? I'm trying to install to LVs on a luks-encrypted PV which I configured before starting the installer. |
| 15:42.24 | han-solo | okay |
| 15:42.40 | han-solo | will, notify-osd do that? |
| 15:42.47 | teraflops | han-solo: yes |
| 15:42.50 | han-solo | i just installed that |
| 15:42.55 | han-solo | okay. Thanks again |
| 15:42.57 | teraflops | np |
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| 15:44.13 | iri | I should add, it fails after having copied seemingly all of the files to the target filesystem. |
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| 15:45.12 | mtn | iri: which installer/iso are you using? |
| 15:45.16 | voxadam | With NFSv4 is it still recommended/required to bind mount directories before exporting them? |
| 15:45.36 | iri | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-mate-desktop.iso |
| 15:45.48 | han-solo | teraflops: it doesn't seem to display anything on the screen :/ |
| 15:46.13 | mtn | iri: I have heard the live disk is not a good choice for installing. use the netinstall instead |
| 15:46.14 | teraflops | iri: does "install debian unstable from a USB stick" mean you are not using a jessie installer for doing apt-get dist-upgrade to sid from a minimal jessie installation? |
| 15:46.26 | iri | sorry, I said "unstable" before, but I am using the above ISO, so I must be mistaken. |
| 15:46.40 | iri | (I guess the above iso is stable) |
| 15:46.41 | teraflops | han-solo: mind being a bit more specific? |
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| 15:47.05 | han-solo | notify-send "hello world" is supposed to send a notification to the display right? |
| 15:47.15 | iri | mtn: that's rather unfortunate, I have no experience doing net installs, but I have done tens of live installs |
| 15:47.24 | iri | where do I begin? |
| 15:47.33 | iri | and what will it actually improve rather than complicate? |
| 15:47.48 | mtn | iri: the netinstall is very similar. not difficult at all. give it a try! |
| 15:48.06 | mtn | iri: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware |
| 15:49.11 | iri | mtn so I should use something like http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso ? |
| 15:49.34 | mtn | iri: looks good |
| 15:50.02 | teraflops | han-solo: as in what's your DE/WM, what did you install and what are you doing for checking it. also if you're following any source of documentation for setting it up |
| 15:50.09 | iri | do I just do `dd if=iso of=usb`, or do I need something more complicated? I usually use unetbootin. |
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| 15:50.35 | han-solo | i installed notify-osd, libnotify-bin |
| 15:50.37 | mtn | iri: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 15:50.43 | mtn | iri: just use cp ;) |
| 15:51.18 | iri | wait what? how does that work? |
| 15:51.25 | han-solo | so, i guess libnotify-bin is the one that had notify-send |
| 15:51.30 | mtn | iri: read the link? |
| 15:51.34 | iri | Does cp have some magical feature I'm not aware of... |
| 15:51.35 | teraflops | han-solo: a bit more specific ^ |
| 15:51.41 | han-solo | er |
| 15:51.44 | mtn | iri: no, but debian does |
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| 15:52.00 | han-solo | i didn't do anything much, installed those and tried notify-send "hello world" |
| 15:52.01 | iri | I'm not starting with a working debian system though.. |
| 15:52.15 | mtn | iri: just read the link already! |
| 15:52.31 | iri | mtn: But I don't have a mental model of how `cp debian.iso /dev/sdX` can possibly work... |
| 15:52.48 | teraflops | han-solo: what DE/WM? |
| 15:52.50 | mtn | iri: so, you know more than the devs? really? |
| 15:53.01 | iri | mtn: No, that's not what I'm saying, I know less! |
| 15:53.10 | mtn | iri: then follow instructions? |
| 15:53.23 | iri | Doesn't `cp x y` usually create a file at y? How can it put something on a block device? |
| 15:53.29 | mtn | iri: you can use dd, as well. no problem |
| 15:53.29 | iri | I can't see anything in the cp man page |
| 15:53.43 | iri | Oh. I'm just being super dumb. |
| 15:53.53 | iri | That's quite funny. |
| 15:53.53 | mtn | iri: read the link I sent you. what is so hard about that? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 15:54.46 | iri | mtn: I just held `can't create X at /dev/zro` too hard in my mind. Of course it will copy the bytes onto the disk. I wonder why I have never seen cp used for this before. Sigh, sorry. |
| 15:55.18 | mtn | iri: doesn't work with most other distros, just debian. depends on now the iso was made |
| 15:55.29 | iri | Sounds magical. |
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| 15:56.12 | admiral93 | I have strained eyes from computer work. I want to set up a script to turn the screen blank every N minutes for M minutes. Any ideas how to approach this? |
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| 15:57.31 | iri | Hm. I just tried booting it but get "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt\nOperating System not found". |
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| 15:58.07 | mtn | iri: what exact command did you use to make the disk? |
| 15:58.13 | iri | cp iso /dev/sde1 |
| 15:58.19 | iri | but it was already partitioned. |
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| 15:58.34 | mtn | iri: two mistakes. better read the links again ;) |
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| 15:58.41 | iri | OK. Sorry :( |
| 15:59.36 | iri | Argh, for some reason I thought it said sdXN. I'm really not doing well here today. |
| 15:59.43 | han-solo | teraflops: sorry, bad connection. I didn't get you |
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| 16:01.47 | teraflops | han-solo: what DE/WM? |
| 16:02.07 | han-solo | gnome |
| 16:02.37 | teraflops | han-solo: gnome already have a notification daemon running |
| 16:02.43 | admiral93 | ok nevermind, wrote a quick bash script to solve my problem |
| 16:03.09 | han-solo | which is? |
| 16:03.20 | han-solo | what's WM btw? |
| 16:03.44 | teraflops | window manager as in i3 xmonad openbox etc |
| 16:03.54 | han-solo | winman? |
| 16:03.58 | han-solo | okay |
| 16:04.04 | han-solo | yeah |
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| 16:05.37 | teraflops | han-solo: so, gnome already have a notification daemon, you didn't notice it? |
| 16:05.51 | han-solo | avahi-daemon? |
| 16:06.11 | han-solo | but how do you send notification to desktop? |
| 16:06.14 | iri | OK. I'm in the net installer in expert mode. How do I run cryptsetup? |
| 16:06.25 | han-solo | via cli |
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| 16:09.32 | awal1 | Any one get conky transparent under awesome? |
| 16:10.21 | iri | mtn: is it possible to do cryptsetup before installation from the net installer? |
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| 16:10.41 | mtn | iri: no idea, I dont' use encryption. have you looked at the debian wiki? |
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| 16:11.04 | iri | I guess I can't just apt install it as on the live CD.. |
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| 16:11.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | iri, I think you can? |
| 16:11.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | Oh, as on. |
| 16:11.43 | iri | Eduard_Munteanu: How? I can't find or figure out how to install cryptsetup |
| 16:11.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | cryptsetup is certainly there, but in some installer modules. |
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| 16:12.05 | awal1 | han-solo, dunst is a nice alternative for other noitification daemons/apps stuff |
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| 16:14.16 | teraflops | awal1: he is in gnome that has a buiil-in one. |
| 16:14.31 | teraflops | built* |
| 16:15.10 | awal1 | teraflops, right, I meant in any one uses X WM with no gnome stuff |
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| 16:15.22 | awal1 | if any one ^ |
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| 16:21.03 | iri | OK, I'm having more luck now. |
| 16:21.23 | iri | I gave up on trying to use cryptsetup and just went with what the installer does. |
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| 16:26.43 | teraflops | han-solo: I cannot believe you didn't notice gnome already have a notification daemon. is *that* thing at the bottom |
| 16:27.05 | han-solo | i have a bad monitor |
| 16:27.18 | han-solo | so it's like a tab in windows there :) |
| 16:27.25 | teraflops | h4ndy: so you just need libnotify-bin for getting notify-send since you already have a notification daemon running |
| 16:27.29 | han-solo | a big tab |
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| 16:28.11 | han-solo | no, i just need to send custom notifications to desktop from command line |
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| 16:30.08 | han-solo | just saying, "in ubuntu, notify-send sends notification to the upper right side of the desktop" |
| 16:30.24 | teraflops | 18:27:25 teraflops ⸠h4ndy: so you just need libnotify-bin for getting notify-send since you already have a notification daemon running ⦠|
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| 16:30.51 | han-solo | ugh |
| 16:30.53 | han-solo | sorry |
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| 16:31.25 | teraflops | oh h4ndy sorry |
| 16:31.28 | teraflops | i meant han-solo |
| 16:31.34 | han-solo | ah |
| 16:31.56 | han-solo | i was just thinking, another guys has the same question? :/ |
| 16:31.57 | han-solo | :) |
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| 16:34.26 | Eliza777 | KDE + Openbox. On Ctrl+Alt+F1 runned OpenBox and game. I canged to Ctrl+Alt+F7 to KDE and changed to Ctrl+Alt+F1 to OpenBox with the game. And I saw game crashed. |
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| 16:36.47 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: wouldn't it be simpler to run the game in KDE, all under the same X11 server session? |
| 16:37.14 | Eliza777 | no |
| 16:37.28 | Eliza777 | in new session faster work |
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| 16:43.44 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: does the game still crash if you do it all under one session? |
| 16:44.13 | Eliza777 | no |
| 16:44.24 | Eliza777 | only game crashed |
| 16:44.29 | Eliza777 | no sessions |
| 16:45.35 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: what i mean, is does the game crash if you run it under your original X session on tty7 (the KDE session)? |
| 16:45.39 | Eliza777 | Only graphics in the game breaks |
| 16:45.47 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: is running two X servers causing your problem? |
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| 16:46.08 | Eliza777 | ÑÑ |
| 16:46.10 | Eliza777 | no |
| 16:46.21 | Eliza777 | all work if no change to other X |
| 16:47.42 | Eliza777 | X7 run script -> X1 Running Game -> change to X7 all work here -> change to X1 Game crashed |
| 16:47.58 | Eliza777 | Its bug? |
| 16:48.00 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: if you can find an error message either on the stdout/stderr from running the game, or perhaps in /var/log/Xorg.0.log you may be able to find the origin of the problem. |
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| 16:48.33 | Eliza777 | Can you test it pls? |
| 16:48.47 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: honestly I don't think very many people run multiple Xorg servers as the same user on the same computer. I would still try to reproduce the crash by running your game on tty7 in KDE |
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| 16:49.20 | Eliza777 | its work normal |
| 16:49.42 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: the game does not crash if it runs under KDE then? |
| 16:49.45 | Eliza777 | lightdm bug? |
| 16:49.50 | Eliza777 | or xorg |
| 16:50.09 | Eliza777 | all work on kde |
| 16:50.28 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: i believe that KDE has a feature to disable compositing features in its window manager for fullscreen applications (like games). You should try that instead of starting a second X server. |
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| 16:50.53 | Eliza777 | disabled |
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| 16:51.11 | Eliza777 | nvidia driver |
| 16:51.33 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: i don't understand sentence fragments :) |
| 16:52.04 | Eliza777 | compositing is disabled on KDE |
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| 16:53.33 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: another thing to try is running the second X session with the game as a different user account. If there is an error message, you should research the error. |
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| 16:55.09 | sharkman | when i scrape from debian i am getting this error message "Connection reset by peer - SSL_connect". it happens sporadically. some of the time the scraper works. othertimes it gets this error. would it make sense for me to try to update any SSL packages on my computer? |
| 16:55.13 | Eliza777 | I nub Im sorry |
| 16:55.42 | eSa| | hi, I've got messages like this during apt-get update. what do you suggest? |
| 16:55.47 | eSa| | W: Errore GPG: http://ftp.de.debian.org testing InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553 NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010 |
| 16:56.14 | jmcnaught | sharkman: probably not. On Debian the SSL libraries (like almost everything) stay at the same version for the entire life of a release |
| 16:56.43 | sharkman | oh, good to know, thanks jmcnaught |
| 16:56.44 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: it's okay. I think the problem is running to X11 sessions. See if you can avoid that, or find a specific error message to research. |
| 16:57.13 | Eliza777 | in future then |
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| 16:59.05 | jmcnaught | eSa|: are you attempting a release upgrade to stretch? which release are you upgrading from? you may get better testing/unstable support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net where there are more testing/unstable users |
| 17:00.34 | Eliza777 | I installed Debian Mini and I see here work screensaver. How to remove it? |
| 17:01.02 | Eliza777 | Also I not have Xorg |
| 17:01.34 | eSa| | thanks jmcnaught , i'm stuck without upgrading from more than a year and I uses to go on testing unstable |
| 17:01.48 | Eliza777 | And me? |
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| 17:02.18 | TheGuest | hi all |
| 17:02.27 | jmcnaught | eSa|: if you've been struggling with an upgrade for a year you may consider reinstalling Debian stable and using that for a bit while you learn Debian. |
| 17:03.10 | TheGuest | i have debian 6 can i still use that??? (installing apps from synaptic) |
| 17:03.15 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: Xorg is the software that controls the screen, keyboard and mouse when you are in a graphical session. KDE, lightdm, openbox, all of these use Xorg (aka X11) |
| 17:03.34 | eSa| | I'm got very rusty knowledge on debian, I will take time to recover it |
| 17:03.44 | Eliza777 | jmcnaught, and? |
| 17:04.34 | jmcnaught | TheGuest: Debian 6 support is completely finished. Debian 7 main support is also finished, only the LTS support is available for Debian 7 (which is mostly focused on server software). You are better off with Debian 8, the current stable release. |
| 17:04.49 | Eliza777 | jmcnaught, I not have a Xorg, DE, WM, but I have screensaver just on console |
| 17:04.50 | jmcnaught | TheGuest: if you must run old unsupported software, "/msg dpkg squeeze sources.list" |
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| 17:05.19 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: oh, the screen goes blank? I don't know how to disable that, I spend so little time on the console. |
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| 17:06.03 | Eliza777 | jmcnaught, how? :( |
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| 17:06.40 | TheGuest | whetherdebian have a old repository like ubuntu? |
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| 17:07.16 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: i don't know. i use a terminal emulator under GNOME |
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| 17:07.25 | Eliza777 | :( |
| 17:07.38 | jmcnaught | TheGuest: please read my messages again, I gave you info on how to ask the bot for Debian 6 repos |
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| 17:08.45 | TheGuest | ow ok, debian, 8 |
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| 17:11.08 | Eliza777 | cp: cannot stat '/etc/modprobe.d'* No such file or directory |
| 17:11.48 | Eliza777 | apt-get install xorg xinit lightdm openbox |
| 17:12.22 | Eliza777 | jmcnaught, ? |
| 17:12.25 | Eliza777 | Here bug |
| 17:12.32 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: once some xorg packages are installed you should get some files in that directory. You could look at "ls /etc/modprobe.d/" |
| 17:13.11 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: you already had KDE running though? |
| 17:13.26 | Eliza777 | no |
| 17:13.28 | Eliza777 | apt-get install xorg xinit lightdm openbox |
| 17:13.54 | Eliza777 | Do You have a VM? |
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| 17:14.11 | Eliza777 | Its Bug in Debian Mini |
| 17:14.36 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: did you install from the mini.iso? that's not a recommended installation method |
| 17:15.02 | Eliza777 | I want fast OS |
| 17:15.37 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: Debian is fast when you use the officially recommended installer ISO linked to from the homepage and in the install manual |
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| 17:15.57 | Eliza777 | ls said no such file or directiry |
| 17:16.16 | Eliza777 | I found bug |
| 17:17.52 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: it's more likely that you do not yet have any packages installed that place files in that directory. |
| 17:18.09 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell Eliza777 about pastebinit |
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| 17:18.31 | Eliza777 | not found |
| 17:19.30 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: please show the exact command you used and complete output. If it is more than 2-3 lines, please use the pastebinit tool that dpkg just messaged you about. |
| 17:19.32 | teraflops | Eliza777: dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d â udev, module-init-tools, kmod: /etc/modprobe.d |
| 17:19.48 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: please also let us know which release of Debian you have installed |
| 17:20.01 | teraflops | yeah |
| 17:20.24 | Eliza777 | lastest Mini |
| 17:20.30 | Eliza777 | netinstall |
| 17:20.41 | Eliza777 | acc root |
| 17:20.46 | Eliza777 | then |
| 17:20.52 | Eliza777 | apt-get install xorg xinit lightdm openbox |
| 17:21.25 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: you need to give specific details if you want help. Show us the link/URL that you used to download the iso file. The mini.iso is different than the netinst iso. The mini also asks if you want stable, testing, or unstable. |
| 17:21.27 | Eliza777 | I mean login: root |
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| 17:22.09 | Eliza777 | 64 bit netinstall default from the oficial Debian website |
| 17:22.57 | Eliza777 | https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 17:23.06 | Eliza777 | amd64 |
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| 17:23.48 | Eliza777 | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 17:23.55 | Eliza777 | it |
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| 17:24.02 | Eliza777 | this |
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| 17:25.04 | Eliza777 | debian-stretch-DI-alpha7-amd64-netinst its my |
| 17:25.26 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: which one did you install, 8.5 or stretch-DI-alpha7? |
| 17:25.41 | Eliza777 | second |
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| 17:26.11 | Eliza777 | now i will install first |
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| 17:27.00 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: if you are new please start with the stable release. Stretch is not finished, probably won't be for around another year. |
| 17:27.09 | popsch2 | what is a good network file system built into linux that has local caching? NFS doesn't cache data locally and always accesses the remote server for data. I only need to read data and not write it. |
| 17:27.22 | jmcnaught | Eliza777: also please at least skim https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual (available in several languages) |
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| 17:29.52 | bibble | When a server is hacked, is it ever really one that only uses ssh keys, and if so, still through a different way such as php or similar ? |
| 17:30.27 | jmcnaught | bibble: any software could have exploits in it |
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| 17:31.46 | bibble | true. just wondering if as long as ssh is kept up to date and keys used only, if anyone is actually aware of servers being hacked that way. |
| 17:31.56 | babilen | What way? |
| 17:32.14 | bibble | through ssh. |
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| 17:32.52 | babilen | I'd say that other attack vectors are more common |
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| 17:34.05 | babilen | SSH is regarded as one of the better audited programs out there. But then the problem here might be rather one with people who misplace their keys (for example) |
| 17:34.15 | babilen | (OpenSSH that is) |
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| 17:34.59 | bibble | Right. Cool. Just gets freaky when you see all the authentication attempts made by bad IPs. |
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| 17:35.19 | babilen | That's the "background noise" of the internet |
| 17:35.35 | bibble | :) |
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| 17:36.16 | babilen | It happens to every box in existence. Just disable password and root logins completely and only use proper keys (high bit RSA, elliptic curves (if you trust them), ...) and you shouldn't have to worry too much about that |
| 17:36.17 | LAL | Hello guys, anyone requesting bug report via email? |
| 17:36.39 | babilen | LAL: I'm not giving you my mail address, sorry |
| 17:36.48 | babilen | (at least not for that purpose) |
| 17:36.59 | LAL | babilen: |
| 17:37.16 | babilen | LAL: Would you like to report a bug report to Debian? |
| 17:37.25 | LAL | babilen: I don't want your mail id. |
| 17:37.28 | bibble | babilen: great, that's what I hoped. |
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| 17:37.53 | babilen | bibble: Every single server out there sees thousands of those attempts every single day |
| 17:38.06 | popsch2 | my bad, NFS supports caching with fsc :) |
| 17:38.52 | LAL | babilen: I just want to know how to request Debian to sent bug reports to my email-id. |
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| 17:39.07 | babilen | LAL: Ah, you want to subscribe to a bug report! |
| 17:39.15 | LAL | babilen: yes |
| 17:39.30 | babilen | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#subscribe |
| 17:39.55 | LAL | babilen: Thank you |
| 17:40.00 | LAL | :-) |
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| 17:41.04 | sabusanta | babilen: I am a prince in nigeria i have 100 trillion dollars biznez oportunity...plz send me ur email |
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| 17:41.34 | babilen | \o/ |
| 17:41.44 | sabusanta | :d |
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| 17:42.34 | bibble | lol |
| 17:42.53 | teraflops | xD |
| 17:43.36 | sabusanta | Believe it or not those errors were intentional. |
| 17:44.51 | teraflops | I receive random scam emails like that from the lartc majordomo vger.kernel.org list :S |
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| 17:47.08 | sabusanta | That reminds me ive got to learn how to set up a spamfilter |
| 17:47.08 | nikitasius | teraflops: best spam i ever had, when i worked in bank in it departement, every monday we had viagra spam with new girl. |
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| 17:47.44 | nikitasius | you come to work, turnon pc and.. new girl watching you from spam message. That was awesome |
| 17:47.48 | teraflops | yeah once they get your email you're just flagged til the end of times |
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| 17:48.19 | bibble | sabusanta: spamassasin seems to be the most common I come across. |
| 17:48.19 | nikitasius | it was corporate email. when you work in IT, lot of clients and empoloyers have your email. |
| 17:48.20 | babilen | casually mentions #debian-offtopic |
| 17:48.29 | nikitasius | babilen: okay. thanks! |
| 17:49.03 | sabusanta | bibble: Spamassasin is it common in IT environments. As that's the only reason. I want to eventually find a jr linux position |
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| 17:49.31 | bibble | Ah, see. not sure sabusanta . |
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| 17:51.10 | bibble | I think possibly though. Most email setup verifiers refer to spamassasin when testing spam level sabusanta |
| 17:51.39 | sabusanta | bibble: thanks, ill look into it |
| 17:51.43 | bibble | .... wether you're spam or ham. |
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| 17:55.43 | rnd | how to change the environment variables |
| 17:55.47 | rnd | for other users |
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| 17:57.29 | bibble | rnd, that they can't change themselves ?, if not, ~/.bashrc is one place. |
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| 17:59.03 | teraflops | sabusanta: setup your own email server and secure it, that's a good way of learning spamassasin, DNS, etc. |
| 17:59.16 | LAL | Hello guys, I am new to Debian and can anyone help me how to reproduce bugs in my machine. :-) |
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| 18:00.14 | sabusanta | teraflops: Im slowly moving into that area. So much stuff to learn studying for CCNA blah blah |
| 18:00.22 | sabusanta | LAL: whats your bug you want to produce |
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| 18:00.40 | LAL | sabusanta: actually I am a beginner. |
| 18:00.43 | `Kevin | sabusanta: nooo cisco :( |
| 18:00.57 | teraflops | yeah I read cisco :S |
| 18:01.05 | LAL | sabusanta: there must be a common way right. |
| 18:01.40 | sabusanta | LAL: No not really. I mean you can go thru the sequence of actions again and try to hit it but it's not guaranteed. Im having that problem with Handbrake right now actually |
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| 18:02.08 | sabusanta | teraflops: Cisco stuff seems nice Kevin: whats's wrong with Cisco? |
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| 18:02.16 | teraflops | LAL: try to reproduce them in clean environments like clean chroots or just VMs |
| 18:02.41 | teraflops | sabusanta: you said linux position go learn LARTC :P |
| 18:02.49 | `Kevin | sabusanta: overpriced just like juniper and other typical network vendors |
| 18:03.22 | LAL | teraflops: thank you |
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| 18:03.37 | sabusanta | LAL: But did you have a specific bug you were trying to reproduce? |
| 18:03.45 | rnd | bibble: for example as a root you can change the home folder of a user etc |
| 18:03.49 | `Kevin | sabusanta: we are starting to make use of cumulus linux which is basically just debian jessie... with some custom asic driver pieces |
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| 18:04.10 | LAL | sabusanta: I am afraid not. |
| 18:04.16 | `Kevin | you can get a 32x100Gb/s switch for <$15k |
| 18:04.19 | teraflops | LAL: for VMs looks like a good idea a VM with a clean install, then back it up so you can always start from it |
| 18:04.38 | `Kevin | and it is the same chipset that cisco or juniper uses |
| 18:04.39 | sabusanta | `Kevin: They all are pretty much a scam but at least CCNA teaches you something and is highly sought in this area (DOD area) |
| 18:04.55 | LAL | sabusanta: I don't have bug to work on. |
| 18:05.34 | sabusanta | LAL: Ok. well when you do it might be helpful to look up a few debugging mechanisms. Usually it's better to debug from Terminal |
| 18:05.39 | `Kevin | sabusanta: ccna does teach you some decent basics i just wouldn't go into the whole vendor lock-in route so keep that in mind |
| 18:06.15 | teraflops | I agree with `Kevin at 101% ;) |
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| 18:06.19 | sabusanta | LAL: read up on strace, gdb too Ive used those |
| 18:06.20 | LAL | sabusanta: Can you guide me through it. |
| 18:07.39 | sabusanta | LAL: No, you dont have a bug. So it's all hypotheticals |
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| 18:08.03 | bibble | ah, rnd, you've got to use commands like "usermod --help" to change a user's home. |
| 18:08.24 | sabusanta | `Kevin: By vendor lockin do you mean thru one vendor. I mean doesnt it hurt to not specialize in at least some vendor in your experience |
| 18:08.37 | rnd | there is question for LFCS how to change users envi. variables |
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| 18:09.10 | `Kevin | sabusanta: I wouldnt work somewhere that I do not have the flexibility to use something I prefer and that is Linux |
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| 18:09.18 | LAL | sabusanta: Ok fine and thank you. |
| 18:09.25 | `Kevin | sabusanta: I did CCNA 11 years ago and started at a Cisco shop |
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| 18:10.04 | sabusanta | rnd: Is that the question verbatim? Seems so open ended. |
| 18:10.33 | rnd | it is like a topic, it isnt the actual question |
| 18:10.43 | rnd | but in the exam it was a question to change the home dir |
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| 18:11.54 | webpigeon | Hi, does anyone know why all of the apt-get surgestions now only read apt: "ie. Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them."? |
| 18:12.48 | bibble | I think it's because really apt-get and apt are the same thing really ? |
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| 18:14.10 | sabusanta | rnd: I dont know how they'd want to do it but like you could dump the variables into the users home .bash_profile for export. |
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| 18:14.27 | teraflops | rnd: export HOME=/tmp && cd && pwd ^ |
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| 18:15.19 | teraflops | sabusanta: for the current shell, not for making it persistent |
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| 18:15.22 | sabusanta | webbyz: apt-get is deprecated I believe. least that's what it told me. I still find myself having to use apt-get thogh |
| 18:15.32 | rnd | for making them persistent i think |
| 18:15.50 | webbyz | sabusanta: ummm, k? lol |
| 18:15.55 | r1v3n | got multiple sound sinks, and when I "aplay -D plughw:1,3,0 test.wav |
| 18:15.58 | webbyz | thanks for letting me know :P |
| 18:16.16 | webbyz | apt-get always works for me :P |
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| 18:16.18 | r1v3n | it plays like 7 out of 10 times |
| 18:16.28 | r1v3n | other 3 times, silence |
| 18:16.35 | Putti | webpigeon, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801571 |
| 18:16.36 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/801571 in apt (closed): «do not suggest to use "*apt-get* autoremove" when using *apt*»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-10-12; last modified: 2015-12-12. |
| 18:17.05 | r1v3n | aplay -D plughw:1,3,0 test.wav - works once in a while, but not always, |
| 18:17.16 | webbyz | sabusanta: I only use apt-get on all of my raspberry piS |
| 18:17.26 | r1v3n | how can I figure out what happens. notting in logs |
| 18:17.28 | sabusanta | webbyz: yea apt-get still works as does aptitude, as does dpkg. lol. and actually I forgot what the instance was but apt failed for me and I had to use apt-get |
| 18:19.22 | teraflops | r1v3n: may I as why are you explicitly using alsa? |
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| 18:20.04 | Putti | webpigeon, I'd say that's a bug but for me that doesn't matter |
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| 18:20.43 | r1v3n | well, debian came with pulse/alsa |
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| 18:20.52 | r1v3n | you implying I should oss |
| 18:21.08 | teraflops | no |
| 18:21.26 | teraflops | I'n asking why are you using alsa |
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| 18:21.33 | teraflops | m* |
| 18:22.06 | r1v3n | I am trying to get my debian to say time every 10 minutes, via cron trigeging shell script |
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| 18:22.40 | teraflops | r1v3n: unless you have a mixer sw if you do alsa and something has the sound device in use you wont get sound |
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| 18:22.50 | r1v3n | shell script plays file |
| 18:23.04 | teraflops | r1v3n: use pulseadio and use paplay then I suppose |
| 18:23.15 | r1v3n | teraflops, exactly, so I would like cron to to able to play sounds same time while ruthmbox playing music |
| 18:23.17 | teraflops | as in paplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav |
| 18:23.32 | teraflops | use pulseadio :P |
| 18:24.04 | r1v3n | yeah, it works when I run scipt manually, but will not play when trigged bby cron |
| 18:24.20 | r1v3n | tried many players, paplay works just fine |
| 18:24.23 | r1v3n | but not via cron |
| 18:24.28 | bibble | wouldn't "aplay test.wav" work too ? no other options given. |
| 18:25.00 | r1v3n | from terminal sure, but lauches from cron, no |
| 18:25.05 | r1v3n | launched* |
| 18:25.06 | bibble | see |
| 18:25.09 | teraflops | r1v3n: does that cron script about your Xorg session and pulse instance? pulseadio runs as user not systemwide (by default) |
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| 18:25.19 | teraflops | know* |
| 18:25.39 | r1v3n | teraflops, yeah envr variables prollly missing |
| 18:25.45 | r1v3n | how do I find which one |
| 18:26.18 | r1v3n | cron -e runs script as user |
| 18:26.37 | r1v3n | same user as logged in, and listening to rythbox |
| 18:26.41 | teraflops | r1v3n: you run as user an under X right? if you do a systemd user unit + timer you wont have such issues |
| 18:26.49 | teraflops | and* |
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| 18:27.12 | r1v3n | i set it using: |
| 18:27.23 | r1v3n | crontab -u user - |
| 18:27.38 | r1v3n | and it shows in syslog as running under correct user |
| 18:27.47 | r1v3n | yet no sound |
| 18:27.51 | teraflops | I won't bother in hacking cron jobs for users hardcoding ENV vars since we already have systemd user units and timers |
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| 18:28.22 | r1v3n | so I shouldnt use cron to make talking clock? |
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| 18:28.38 | r1v3n | run daemon wiht timer instead |
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| 18:29.30 | bibble | Ha, apparently wav can be sent straight to speaker "cat test.wav | /dev/pcsp" |
| 18:29.49 | r1v3n | /dev/pcsp is like oss in pulse |
| 18:29.51 | r1v3n | port right? |
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| 18:29.58 | bibble | not sure |
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| 18:30.40 | r1v3n | hmm I dont even have it, prolly have to enable in pulse config |
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| 18:31.21 | teraflops | r1v3n: what I sais was a personal opinion ^ |
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| 18:32.49 | r1v3n | I gonna figure out what systemd user units are |
| 18:33.12 | teraflops | r1v3n: try paplay |
| 18:33.22 | r1v3n | thank you for help teraflops! |
| 18:33.31 | teraflops | np. good luck |
| 18:33.58 | bibble | I would choose teraflops choice as works with all encodings, in case you change your media file. |
| 18:35.32 | teraflops | r1v3n: in case you need to explicitly set the pulse instance it's under /run/whatever sorry I'm on the phone I can't be more specific |
| 18:36.42 | r1v3n | bibble, that much i already figured :) |
| 18:37.53 | bibble | :) |
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| 18:46.47 | r1v3n | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.10 | r1v3n | what do I set it as, PULSE_SERVER? |
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| 18:54.48 | webpigeon | Putti: thanks, someone who is new to Debian in my office spotted it the other day and it confused them - promised I'd ask about it |
| 18:57.25 | Putti | webpigeon, you're welcome! :) But haha, basically the bug report made just a new bug, but now instead we should change it back to apt-get :D |
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| 19:07.27 | crash_ | how do i install i3-wm version 4.12 on debian 8? backports only has 4.11 |
| 19:07.58 | prussian | you don't |
| 19:08.09 | prussian | or you compile and build it yourself |
| 19:08.12 | prussian | sorry |
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| 19:11.26 | crash_ | ok i see, i will see if i can compile it by my self |
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| 19:12.00 | Eliza777 | hi |
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| 19:12.44 | Eliza777 | I need run 2 X servers on start. How to configure lightdm? |
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| 19:15.14 | up2late | Eliza777: http://bfy.tw/6zND |
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| 19:15.38 | Eliza777 | noob? |
| 19:16.17 | up2late | its in the first return |
| 19:16.21 | up2late | dpkg-reconfigure lightdm |
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| 19:17.55 | up2late | or even read https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM |
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| 19:19.31 | Eliza777 | what is dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ? |
| 19:19.48 | Eliza777 | I need 2 VT |
| 19:19.54 | Eliza777 | autorunning |
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| 19:23.18 | digdilem | dpkg-reconfigure asks you the same questions as when it was installed, or restores to defaults, depending on the package |
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| 19:25.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, why do you need 2 servers running? |
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| 19:27.47 | Eliza777 | nothing no ask |
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| 19:28.28 | Eliza777 | digdilem, nothing no ask |
| 19:28.46 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, 2 VT |
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| 19:29.22 | tete_ | hi, i have a question regarding dev_info messages in kernel.log. its not really debian related (its armbian) but no one answers in that channel, so maybe anyone can help me here. i would like to use the sfp modul of my clearfog pro routerboard but i dont get it working, so i thought i should get some kernel messages, but there are none. the patch which is used for the kernel is here https://github.com/igorpecovnik/lib/blob/master/patch/kernel/ma |
| 19:29.22 | tete_ | rvell-next/0015-sfp-display-SFP-module-information.patch and i can see many dev_info |
| 19:29.30 | tete_ | but i dont see them in my /var/log/kern.log - any ideas why? |
| 19:30.11 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, I'm asking for the purpose of this, there may be better ways to accomplish it. |
| 19:30.48 | Eliza777 | cause I need |
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| 19:35.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, see the LightDM section here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_multiseat#For_LightDM |
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| 19:36.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, you don't need to specify the different layouts |
| 19:36.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | Just the seats. |
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| 19:43.47 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, There just Seat:0 and no Seat:seat0 |
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| 19:44.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, add a Seat:1 section then |
| 19:45.01 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, ok |
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| 19:45.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | With just the xserver-command line |
| 19:45.57 | Eliza777 | For Auto Login multiseat (without Display Manager) |
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| 19:46.19 | Eliza777 | And layout? |
| 19:46.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, no. And no auto login stuff. |
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| 19:48.57 | Eliza777 | ok |
| 19:49.14 | mernilio | Greetings fellow seemen on the greath northern sea! |
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| 19:49.52 | stoned | O_o |
| 19:50.35 | mernilio | I made my first credit card buy on the internet today. It was shakey up here on the bridge but i think the captaint did it right! :-) |
| 19:51.09 | stoned | You're on a boat? |
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| 19:51.36 | stoned | Bridges don't have captains. Boats do. |
| 19:51.42 | mernilio | Im not an old timer .. i have just not used that possibility |
| 19:52.00 | mernilio | stoned: Maybe so |
| 19:52.14 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, here little problem |
| 19:52.23 | stoned | Welcome to the future! |
| 19:52.27 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, X:11 and X:12 bad work |
| 19:52.54 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, I have now F7 and F8 |
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| 19:53.11 | stoned | mernilio: using debian and FOSS you'll probably be safe. |
| 19:53.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, I don't understand. |
| 19:53.31 | stoned | mernilio: better security on linux than windows maybe |
| 19:53.44 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, xserver-command=/usr/bin/X :11 xserver-command=/usr/bin/X :12 |
| 19:53.46 | mernilio | stoned: Im using Slackware |
| 19:54.05 | stoned | Ok. But this is #debian |
| 19:54.30 | mernilio | stoned: Im banned for life in #slackware <-- :-P |
| 19:54.31 | stoned | We use GNU. Slackware uses GNU. We use linux kernel. Slackware uses linux kernel. It's all the same, but it's not. |
| 19:54.47 | stoned | Well, switch to debian. Talking of slackware in #debian could be frowned upon |
| 19:54.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | The security of Linux pretty much relies on the inability of users to install random crap they get online. |
| 19:55.08 | Eliza777 | go on #ubuntu |
| 19:55.18 | stoned | Stay here and switch to debian. |
| 19:55.29 | stoned | That's a much better solution to a non-problem. |
| 19:55.35 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, :( |
| 19:55.52 | mernilio | Im not here to argue .. I have tried debien thou! Pretty good! But i didnt like dep-checks. |
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| 19:56.28 | stoned | I wonder what brings you to #debian. There is ##linux where you can get general linux support. This is for #debian support. |
| 19:56.34 | stoned | <- confused |
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| 19:57.25 | mernilio | stoned: i was thinking of ian murdock. And thougt i might stop by and pay my respect! |
| 19:57.32 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, heeey |
| 19:57.57 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, I don't understand what you mean |
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| 19:58.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, you got the two X servers running? |
| 19:58.30 | stoned | mernilio: thank you for your respects. |
| 19:58.49 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, yes |
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| 19:58.57 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, ok, what's the problem then? |
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| 19:59.05 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, but on the ctrl+alt+F7 and F8 |
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| 19:59.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, and how do you want them? |
| 19:59.19 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, and no on 11 and 12 |
| 19:59.21 | stoned | Eduard_Munteanu: Windows has UAC as well. OSX has it's own security model. |
| 19:59.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | Oh. |
| 19:59.35 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, I want F11 and F12 |
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| 20:01.12 | mernilio | Wasnt Eliza the first good bot, no one could tell from a real human being? |
| 20:01.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, add vt11 and vt12 respectively |
| 20:01.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, as options to /usr/bin/X |
| 20:01.58 | mernilio | Or a nazi crypto mashine? ... |
| 20:02.06 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, Oo what? |
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| 20:02.39 | mernilio | Oki, thanks for your attentiion all, and stoned |
| 20:02.42 | mernilio | cya |
| 20:02.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | /usr/bin/X :0 vt11 |
| 20:02.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | /usr/bin/X :1 vt12 |
| 20:03.13 | Eliza777 | oh ok |
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| 20:05.34 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, its no work |
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| 20:07.28 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, can you pastebin your lightdm.conf? |
| 20:07.46 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, of cose |
| 20:07.53 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, need install it |
| 20:08.12 | Eliza777 | how to? |
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| 20:09.23 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, apt-get install pastebinit |
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| 20:09.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | pastebinit < /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf |
| 20:09.58 | Eliza777 | ok |
| 20:11.40 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, http://paste.debian.net/786151/ |
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| 20:14.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, try replacing X by Xorg |
| 20:14.20 | dmacks | How do I format or parse a shlibs file when the library file contains whitespace in its name? |
| 20:14.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | On both those lines. |
| 20:14.43 | dmacks | (the shlibs file is described as using whitespace to delimit fields) |
| 20:14.58 | Eliza777 | ok |
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| 20:16.24 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, no work |
| 20:16.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, what happens? |
| 20:16.50 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, F7 and F8 work and no F11 and F12 |
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| 20:18.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, oh... there's another way. Change the minimum-vt line in the [LightDM] section to 11. |
| 20:18.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, and don't forget to remove the # |
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| 20:19.24 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, and minimum display number? |
| 20:19.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, no, leave that alone, it's unrelated to the actual VT you get |
| 20:20.01 | Eliza777 | ok |
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| 20:21.51 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, blackscreen |
| 20:22.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, hm, weird. Are you restarting the display-manager service or rebooting? |
| 20:22.55 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, incorrect restart and all work! |
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| 20:23.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | Good. |
| 20:23.12 | Eliza777 | 2 times OS rebooted |
| 20:23.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | So it works? |
| 20:23.33 | Eliza777 | yes |
| 20:24.10 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, THANKS YOU!!! |
| 20:24.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | Sure, no problem. |
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| 20:26.28 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, And how to run apps? |
| 20:27.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, doesn't lightdm let you log in to a window manager / desktop? |
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| 20:27.51 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, of cose |
| 20:28.20 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, but need for all users |
| 20:29.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | Eliza777, you'll have to log into your account from each of both VTs. |
| 20:29.50 | Eliza777 | yes |
| 20:30.02 | Eliza777 | I into WM |
| 20:30.11 | Eliza777 | on both VTs |
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| 20:30.23 | Eliza777 | and it autorunning |
| 20:30.38 | e__ | Hey, I have a Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 31) in my laptop. I did 'modprobe ath10k_pci' and rebooted but nothing happened. My wifi isn't working. I am running Debian 8.5 |
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| 20:31.28 | Eduard_Munteanu | e__, modprobe has no persistent effect across reboots |
| 20:31.50 | e__ | So what do I need to do? |
| 20:32.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | e__, well, are you sure the default kernel supports your device? It's 3.16 after all. |
| 20:32.53 | e__ | How would I check? |
| 20:33.23 | babilen | e__: What does "lspci -nn|grep -i network" give you? |
| 20:33.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | e__, well, not easily. You could try the kernel from backports. |
| 20:33.45 | babilen | dpkg: bdo kernel |
| 20:33.46 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 20:33.58 | e__ | Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) babilen |
| 20:34.10 | babilen | judd: pciid 168c:0042 |
| 20:34.11 | judd | [168c:0042] is 'QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:0042 |
| 20:34.16 | babilen | ugh :( |
| 20:34.19 | e__ | What |
| 20:34.26 | e__ | So I have to go ethernet? |
| 20:34.34 | babilen | That might be the case |
| 20:35.08 | e__ | Anything you could think of? |
| 20:35.32 | babilen | I'd try the backported kernel |
| 20:35.38 | e__ | How would I do this? |
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| 20:35.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | See above. |
| 20:35.47 | babilen | See above |
| 20:36.39 | Eliza777 | Eduard_Munteanu, ? |
| 20:36.47 | babilen | modinfo on my sid box list alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i* |
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| 20:37.08 | babilen | So I guess that kernel would work .. you might also need firmware-atheros from backports |
| 20:38.47 | babilen | e__: Essentially add a line such as "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free" to your sources.list, run "apt update" and the install the kernel with the commands listed above. Also pull in "firmware-linux" and "firmware-atheros" from backports, which is done with "apt -t jessie-backports install firmware-linux firmware-atheros" |
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| 20:39.00 | no_gravity | How can I turn off ipv6 on my machine? |
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| 20:39.23 | babilen | no_gravity: Boot with ipv6.disable=1 |
| 20:39.32 | Eliza777 | How to autorun apps? |
| 20:39.32 | Dagger | no_gravity: generally you shouldn't need to. if you have no v6 on the network, you can still leave it enabled and it'll be fine |
| 20:39.51 | Dagger | (and if you have v6 but it's broken, then you should fix it rather than disable it) |
| 20:39.53 | babilen | And it shouldn't be necessary to disable ipv6 |
| 20:40.01 | no_gravity | Dagger: I cannot reach a site and it seem ipv6 related. When I wget with -4 for example, it works. |
| 20:40.17 | babilen | no_gravity: Call your ISP and tell them they are bad |
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| 20:40.27 | e__ | It says that firmware-amd-graphics will be installed, but I have nvidia |
| 20:40.46 | babilen | e__: That shouldn't be a problem |
| 20:40.57 | e__ | Should I just install anyways? |
| 20:41.15 | Dagger | more likely to be a site-specific problem... in which case Firefox has network.dns.ipv4OnlyDomains for that, you shouldn't be disabling v6 system wide just because of one broken site |
| 20:41.29 | babilen | e__: I don't see a problem with it. Feel free to install more specific packages if you don't want firmware-linux to pull in firmware-amd-graphics |
| 20:41.45 | e__ | Alright, I have a couple of other problems |
| 20:41.47 | e__ | As well |
| 20:41.56 | babilen | What kind of problems? |
| 20:42.13 | e__ | Before I delve into those, do I need to reboot? |
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| 20:44.02 | e__ | I'll just do it anyways. |
| 20:44.06 | babilen | e__: So you installed the backported kernel and the firmware? |
| 20:44.09 | e__ | Yes |
| 20:44.15 | babilen | Yeah, reboot |
| 20:44.38 | babilen | If it doesn't boot or you have problem select the old kernel in the grub menu |
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| 20:46.35 | e___ | Nope |
| 20:46.46 | e___ | Wifi isnt working still |
| 20:47.29 | babilen | e__: What does "lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network" give you? |
| 20:48.23 | babilen | Ah, while you are at it. Include "uname -a" and "modprobe -r ath10k_pci ; modprobe ath10k_pci ; dmesg|tail -n23" and "iwlconfig" |
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| 20:49.48 | e___ | lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc Device [11ad:08a6] 04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:5287] (rev 01) |
| 20:50.11 | e___ | hold on ill pastebin this |
| 20:50.21 | babilen | Ah, while you are at it. Include "uname -a" and "modprobe -r ath10k_pci ; modprobe ath10k_pci ; dmesg|tail -n23" and "iwlconfig" |
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| 20:52.32 | e___ | http://pastebin.com/T4vzfAvD |
| 20:52.44 | e___ | you mean iwconfig right? |
| 20:53.14 | babilen | I did, yes |
| 20:53.24 | babilen | And please use a less horrible pastebin such as one of http://refheap.com, http://paste.debian.net, https://gist.github.com, http://sprunge.us, ⦠:) |
| 20:53.29 | babilen | (no need to repaste now) |
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| 20:53.46 | e___ | eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions. |
| 20:53.53 | e___ | for iwconfig |
| 20:53.57 | babilen | You booted into the old kernel |
| 20:54.10 | e___ | How do I boot into the new one? |
| 20:54.16 | babilen | What does "COLUMS=200 dpkg -l 'linux-image*'" give you? |
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| 20:55.25 | e___ | http://pastebin.com/9th6AnaD |
| 20:55.28 | e___ | oh oops |
| 20:55.32 | e___ | whatever |
| 20:55.45 | babilen | I shall forgive you one more time and open that ad-laden page |
| 20:56.06 | babilen | dpkg: show sources.list |
| 20:56.06 | dpkg | Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} |
| 20:56.16 | babilen | e___: What does that ^^ give you? |
| 20:56.28 | babilen | What about "apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" ? |
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| 20:58.17 | e___ | https://ghostbin.com/paste/pwqkh |
| 20:58.55 | babilen | You didn't add jessie-backports to your sources.list |
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| 20:59.12 | babilen | 2:38:45 babilen > e__: Essentially add a line such as "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free" to your sources.list, run "apt update" and the install the kernel with the commands listed above. Also pull in "firmware-linux" and "firmware-atheros" from backports, which is done with "apt -t jessie-backports install |
| 20:59.19 | babilen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.21 | babilen | ... firmware-atheros" |
| 20:59.30 | babilen | grr .. that didn't c&p well :) |
| 20:59.36 | e___ | Yeah |
| 20:59.38 | e___ | I did |
| 20:59.48 | e___ | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free |
| 20:59.51 | e___ | is in sources.list |
| 20:59.55 | babilen | It's not in your sources.list |
| 21:00.05 | babilen | Ah, there it is |
| 21:00.07 | babilen | Sorry .. |
| 21:00.23 | e___ | no problem |
| 21:00.40 | babilen | Right, so run "apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-amd64 firmware-linux firmware-atheros" and paste the output |
| 21:00.54 | e___ | I already did that |
| 21:01.02 | babilen | Well, the kernel didn't install .. |
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| 21:01.46 | e___ | I'll just run it again because it's prompting me with new stuff to install |
| 21:01.55 | babilen | It should, yes |
| 21:02.41 | e___ | ill reboot |
| 21:02.51 | babilen | Did it install the new kernel now? |
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| 21:10.44 | dale____ | Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit and Gnome, no scroll arrows and scroll bar moves too fast, using default Adwaita theme, system theme choice is locked blank |
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| 21:12.42 | awal1 | dale____, if you change any stuff for gnome-shell restart the shell (alt f r) |
| 21:13.16 | dale____ | be right back, thanks |
| 21:13.36 | awal1 | Alt+F2+r press Enter ^ |
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| 21:17.34 | dale____ | alt-f-r didn't change the arrows/bar |
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| 21:18.29 | dale____ | got the system them unlocked by http://askubuntu.com/questions/545741/why-is-shell-theme-disabled-in-gnome-tweak-tool but there is only default, I am going to have to get another theme |
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| 21:21.59 | Eliza777 | And how to autorun 2 users on lightdm? |
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| 21:23.13 | teraflops | dpkg: give Eliza777 xy |
| 21:23.13 | dpkg | gives Eliza777 xy |
| 21:23.20 | teraflops | :S |
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| 21:23.30 | teraflops | !xy |
| 21:23.30 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
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| 21:25.27 | hever | hello, I'm having some trouble setting up tor... it's installed, the torproxy port is open 9050 and I configured my browser to use it... but torproxy seems to be refusing connections... any ideas what I'm missing here? |
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| 21:26.26 | TomTomTosch | hever: if tor refuses to start it's often because a tor proxy is already running, for example in form of tor browser bundle. |
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| 21:27.05 | TomTomTosch | hever: or are you trying to make a normal browser connect to the socks5 proxy? |
| 21:27.12 | hever | its started and the port is open... it just refuses connections (at least the browser tells me that) I'm not running a bundled browser version |
| 21:27.37 | hever | TomTomTosch, yes I'm just trying to use it with my iceweasel |
| 21:28.06 | eclipse` | Hi, is there a way to set a memory usage on make? My vps provider seems to be killing it because it uses a lot of memory |
| 21:28.45 | format_c | hever, have you tried testing the connection refusal using a terminal tool? nc? nmap? telnet? |
| 21:28.53 | TomTomTosch | hever: you go to preferences.>advanced->connection->settings and set manual proxy configuration. there you only set a socks host and enable remote dns. |
| 21:29.12 | hever | i nmaped it and the port 9050 is listening |
| 21:30.41 | TomTomTosch | hever: you set host to 127.0.0.01 and port to 9050. if it still complains try restarting the browser. it works for me with exactly that configuration. |
| 21:30.59 | TomTomTosch | * 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:31.06 | hever | now after I enabled remote dns and did not explicitly use the config for all protocols it says " It appears you have configured your web browser to use Tor as an HTTP proxy. This is not correct: Tor is a SOCKS proxy, not an HTTP proxy. Please configure your client accordingly. " |
| 21:31.36 | TomTomTosch | that's why you don't set the http proxy field but only SOCKS Host |
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| 21:32.46 | hever | ah ok... great it works, thanks! |
| 21:32.52 | TomTomTosch | :) |
| 21:32.57 | e_28 | benaiah |
| 21:33.42 | eclipse` | anyone? |
| 21:33.42 | e_28 | when i installed that jessie backport kernel and rebooted, i cant startx |
| 21:33.58 | e_28 | but my files are still there |
| 21:35.55 | e_28 | beisner i meant |
| 21:36.35 | e_28 | beisner you were helping me not too long ago correct? |
| 21:36.55 | teraflops | eclipse`: ulimit or cgroup I guess |
| 21:37.21 | eclipse` | teraflops, I have tried ulimit but I am getting out of memory errors |
| 21:37.33 | e_28 | or was it babilen |
| 21:37.53 | format_c | ulimit only helps with stack memory exhaustion AFAIK |
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| 21:38.10 | teraflops | try cgroups, even better try a better vps |
| 21:38.41 | teraflops | eclipse`: openvz there? |
| 21:38.50 | eclipse` | yes |
| 21:38.54 | teraflops | ^ |
| 21:39.41 | e_28 | i installed jessie backport and i installed the backport kernel but when i rebooted i cant 'startx' |
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| 21:40.20 | eclipse` | teraflops, can I run make on another machine and move the files back? |
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| 21:41.18 | e_28 | anyone willing to help? |
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| 21:41.24 | format_c | eclipse`, if it's the same processeor/OS arch, yes |
| 21:41.39 | eclipse` | oh, I cant do it then |
| 21:41.56 | format_c | e_28, in the risk repeating questions: what's the output? |
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| 21:42.32 | format_c | e_28, has you'r nick any relation to e17? |
| 21:42.42 | format_c | :-) |
| 21:42.47 | e_28 | no i was "e__" last time |
| 21:43.13 | format_c | interessting |
| 21:43.30 | e_28 | fatal error: no screens found |
| 21:43.47 | e_28 | this is a laptop btw |
| 21:43.53 | teraflops | eclipse`: you can cross compile sure, also be careful with namically linked' mean? - Stack ... |
| 21:43.55 | teraflops | stackoverflow.com/.../what-do-statically-linked-and-dynamically-... |
| 21:43.57 | teraflops | Traducir esta página |
| 21:43.59 | teraflops | 22 nov. 2008 - Ask programming questions; Answer and help your peers; Get recognized for your expertise ... I often hear the terms 'statically linked' and 'dynamically linked', often in reference to code written in C, C++ or C#, but I don't know ... |
| 21:44.01 | teraflops | c++ - When to use dynamic vs. static libraries - Stack Overflow |
| 21:44.03 | teraflops | stackoverflow.com/.../when-to-use-dynamic-vs-static-libraries |
| 21:44.05 | teraflops | Traducir esta página |
| 21:44.07 | teraflops | 26 sept. 2008 - When creating a class library in C++, you can choose between dynamic (.dll) and static (.lib) libraries. What is the difference between them and ... |
| 21:44.09 | teraflops | Difference Between Static and Dynamic Library Linking |
| 21:44.11 | teraflops | cs-fundamentals.com/.../difference-between-static-and-dynamic-li... |
| 21:44.13 | teraflops | Traducir esta página |
| 21:44.15 | teraflops | The difference between static and dynamic (shared) link libraries is that static ... write might make use of other programs (which is usually the case), or libraries of ... |
| 21:44.17 | teraflops | What is a linker, and what are dynamic and static linking? |
| 21:44.19 | teraflops | https://kb.iu.edu/d/akqn |
| 21:44.21 | teraflops | Traducir esta página |
| 21:44.23 | eclipse` | uh |
| 21:44.23 | teraflops | 20 ago. 2015 - The linker inserts code (or maps in shared libraries) to resolve program ... This may require more disk space and memory than dynamic linking, but is ... When compiling a C program in Unix, why do I get "ld: Unresolved:"? |
| 21:44.25 | teraflops | When to use dynamic linking and static linking - IBM |
| 21:44.27 | teraflops | https://www.ibm.com/.../when_dyn_linking_static_linking.htm |
| 21:44.29 | teraflops | Traducir esta página |
| 21:44.30 | eclipse` | teraflops, /flushq |
| 21:44.31 | teraflops | With dynamic linking, external symbols referenced in user code and defined in a ... provides facilities for creating and using dynamically linked shared libraries. ... concurrently running applications (or copies of the same application) use the ... |
| 21:44.33 | teraflops | Static library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 21:44.34 | babilen | e_28: Which gpu? |
| 21:44.35 | teraflops | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_library |
| 21:44.37 | teraflops | Traducir esta página |
| 21:44.41 | eclipse` | REKT |
| 21:44.46 | format_c | e_28, the error message says the (generated) xorg.conf doesn't have a valid <Screen> section. |
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| 21:45.00 | e_28 | babilen nvidia 940mx |
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| 21:45.36 | babilen | e_28: And you use the proprietary nvidia driver? |
| 21:45.36 | teraflops | I'm sorry it was a buffer incident |
| 21:45.45 | format_c | it's probably not a question of the hardward, rather than the (virtual) config file contents |
| 21:45.51 | eclipse` | np |
| 21:46.00 | e_28 | there is no xorg.conf :( |
| 21:46.07 | e_28 | that is weird |
| 21:46.12 | babilen | No, it is not |
| 21:46.22 | pipl | does anyone here dual boot debian with windows 10 |
| 21:46.33 | e_28 | and babilen i havent installed anything nvidia related up to the point |
| 21:46.47 | babilen | e_28: So you were using nouveau? |
| 21:47.05 | e_28 | yep |
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| 21:47.23 | babilen | Well, not sure why that isn't working for you right now. Does the wifi work? |
| 21:47.27 | e_28 | would this have to do with that amd firmware thing I installed earlier? |
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| 21:47.47 | babilen | I doubt it, but feel free to remove that particular firmware pacakge |
| 21:47.57 | e_28 | wifi doesnt work? |
| 21:48.03 | e_28 | :( |
| 21:48.06 | babilen | You tell me |
| 21:48.18 | e_28 | i meant that as a statement |
| 21:48.26 | e_28 | the wifi doesnt work |
| 21:48.58 | babilen | So, you are booted into the new kernel now and "iwconfig", "lspci -knn -A2 -i network" and the modprobe statement still show that the card isn't working? |
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| 21:50.21 | e_28 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.04 | babilen | Ah, forgot the grep .. clearly time to head off now :) |
| 21:51.24 | babilen | But "uname -a" show the 4.6 kernel now? |
| 21:51.47 | e_28 | 4.6 yep |
| 21:52.31 | babilen | Curious ... well, i'm off. It was worth a try .. check what happens if you load the module and modinfo |
| 21:52.59 | e_28 | well now im stuck in tty1 |
| 21:53.12 | e_28 | and i have been since i rebooted lol |
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| 21:53.32 | TomTomTosch | you can always boot the old kernel if things don't work out. |
| 21:53.51 | e_28 | im literally stumped |
| 21:53.54 | e_28 | lol |
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| 21:54.13 | e_28 | how can i boot into the old kernel and get rid of this one( |
| 21:54.41 | TomTomTosch | grub gives you a selection. |
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| 21:55.26 | babilen | (i mentioned that earlier) |
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| 21:56.06 | Time-Warp | what happens if you rm -frv /etc/default/grub |
| 21:56.14 | Time-Warp | and then update-grub |
| 21:56.37 | e_28 | sorry about that |
| 21:56.58 | lgc | Hi. I just installed VirtualBox 5.0 on my LMDE host. It can read the CD, but the USB options are greyed out. |
| 21:57.02 | e_28 | how do i remove this now? |
| 21:57.08 | e_28 | jessie backport |
| 21:57.14 | e_28 | and the backport kernel |
| 21:57.47 | TomTomTosch | e_28: you boot the old kernel and remove the packages that you don't want. |
| 21:58.33 | TomTomTosch | that would be linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 for the backports kernel. |
| 21:58.42 | e_28 | thanks |
| 21:58.45 | Time-Warp | opps |
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| 22:01.01 | lgc | Hi. I just installed VirtualBox 5.0 on my LMDE host. It can read the CD, but the USB options are greyed out. (I forgot the name of who was helping me with this a while ago :( ). |
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| 22:02.31 | teraflops | whoever runs Sigyn it's obvious it was a buffer incident and my bot ended k-lined instead of me, my bot that is not even here? |
| 22:02.41 | teraflops | wtf |
| 22:03.11 | teraflops | trolls everyday hanging by #debian I pastefail and k-lined :P |
| 22:03.18 | teraflops | thanks |
| 22:04.49 | TomTomTosch | Collateral damage is inevitable in war |
| 22:04.54 | teraflops | :P |
| 22:05.04 | petn-randall | pipl: It's better to ask your question instead. |
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| 22:16.23 | teraflops | TomTomTosch: problem solved thanks to #freenode ;) |
| 22:17.09 | TomTomTosch | x) |
| 22:17.43 | format_c | teraflops, interessing. I haven't read anything on freenode. |
| 22:18.01 | format_c | oh wait |
| 22:18.02 | format_c | sorry |
| 22:18.12 | format_c | freenode != #freenode |
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| 22:19.44 | unborn | lgc: you would need to enable usbs there.. |
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| 22:22.51 | teraflops | format_c: k-lined :S the funny thing is that Sigyn does not do ipv6, looks like it needs an upgrade |
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| 22:24.34 | wo00rm | hi |
| 22:24.35 | format_c | teraflops, ?? do you mean that the ones having v4 only can't read v6 messages vice versa? |
| 22:25.33 | format_c | ... or has it been a joke? |
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| 22:26.05 | teraflops | I just notices the bot k-lined my bot that is ipv4 only and not here, and I just got banned |
| 22:26.17 | teraflops | noticed* |
| 22:26.39 | TomTomTosch | probably because of the hostmask. |
| 22:26.47 | teraflops | it had to be the other way around I suppose |
| 22:27.03 | wooden_ | i used to launch a separate X server for certain games, but just running `/usr/bin/X :2 vt2` doesn't seem to work in debian stretch. i get: "xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 2 (Permission denied)" i guess this is related to Xorg not being setuid root anymore? anyone know a workaround? |
| 22:27.37 | teraflops | TomTomTosch: hmm my bot has a bot mask I just have the hostame via rdns |
| 22:28.03 | teraflops | nvm it got fixed |
| 22:28.19 | wo00rm | Debian 8 minimal install gives this error: http://pastie.org/10924517 |
| 22:28.34 | wo00rm | certbot : Depends: python-certbot (= 0.8.1-2~bpo8+1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 22:29.29 | teraflops | wo00rm: it looks like a backport package |
| 22:29.50 | teraflops | wo00rm: I mean that's not a Debian 8 minimal install |
| 22:29.52 | wo00rm | certbot is a jessie-backport package, correct |
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| 22:30.22 | wo00rm | I added the backports to my sources.list manually, teraflops |
| 22:30.28 | teraflops | maybe the backport is broken? |
| 22:30.49 | TomTomTosch | you still need to use -t jessie-backports to install from there. |
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| 22:31.31 | teraflops | ah right no -t jessie-backports there |
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| 22:33.26 | wo00rm | TomTomTosch, Ahhh I forgot about this |
| 22:33.39 | Guest19571 | hey I'm running debian with LXDE I need help configuring my sound. on pavucontrol it says no sound cards detected. |
| 22:33.59 | Guest19571 | I'm using my desktop pc with a coby HDTV through serial port |
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| 22:35.35 | slbtc | so if someone can help it would be apreciated. |
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| 22:36.14 | awal1 | which tool I can use for be able to mouve the mouse cursor from monitor A to monitor B no matters which DE/WM I'm in? |
| 22:37.16 | awal1 | mouve the mouse pointer using keyboard shortcut ^ |
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| 22:39.52 | Eliza777 | How to autorun 2 users on lightdm? |
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| 22:40.36 | teraflops | Eliza777: why? what's your goal? |
| 22:41.12 | unborn | teraflops: whats wrong with ixhat? |
| 22:41.17 | unborn | *xchat |
| 22:41.30 | Eliza777 | teraflops, need autorun 2 users |
| 22:41.41 | teraflops | nothing if you use ie6 too :P |
| 22:41.57 | teraflops | Eliza777: yeah but why? what's your goal? |
| 22:42.15 | Eliza777 | teraflops, just need |
| 22:42.21 | teraflops | ok |
| 22:43.54 | teraflops | unborn: xchat does not do sasl iirc and latest activity in its development is from the beginning of this decade :S |
| 22:43.57 | Eliza777 | teraflops, how? |
| 22:44.11 | teraflops | Eliza777: why? |
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| 22:45.18 | unborn | teraflops: sasl - uhm, mine does.. yeah I agree development is really not there.. but its somehow still works for me.. I thought that there is some security issues or something |
| 22:45.38 | teraflops | yeah I guess so |
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| 22:45.53 | teraflops | hexchat looks like a sane alternative |
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| 22:46.54 | unborn | I agree, did not had time to look at it yet.. I know for windows - I suggest them on that platform always to use it |
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| 22:49.14 | hyperbeam | I run hexchat, works pretty well. Good alternative to xchat |
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| 22:49.48 | dvs | hyperbeam, xchat is dead. |
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| 22:51.20 | hyperbeam | yes it is |
| 22:51.52 | unborn | crap, so Im only one here running it :D |
| 22:51.56 | teraflops | xD |
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| 22:54.13 | unborn | okay the question is, would my configs work with hexchat? perhaps not.. |
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| 22:55.58 | dvs | unborn, no, you'll have to start over. |
| 22:56.26 | hyperbeam | unborn, its good to start fresh sometimes. find new things |
| 22:56.57 | dvs | does a fresh install of Windows 10 |
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| 22:59.03 | unborn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:59.55 | hyperbeam | unborn, you dont update things in a decade? Maybe you need to follow DVS' lead and reinstall everything! XD |
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| 23:00.52 | unborn | hyperbeam: oh I do.. im running latest - but its just habit to install things and if they are in repos I do not question them then |
| 23:01.06 | unborn | specially if they works as swiss clocks |
| 23:01.46 | hyperbeam | haha well, its good to evolve. Find yourself a new irc client :) |
| 23:02.06 | TomTomTosch | well.. this doesn't sound good https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2011-5129 |
| 23:03.02 | hyperbeam | lol, CVE from 2011 |
| 23:03.13 | unborn | hyperbeam: normally I would use irssi but on desktop some fancy gui is always nice.. im evolved enough - I will test hexchat if its in repos next week thanks |
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| 23:03.57 | unborn | TomTomTosch: ah yes that happened to me 2times |
| 23:03.58 | hyperbeam | unborn, it should be in there, Good luck! |
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| 23:04.43 | unborn | will do switch in monday, tomorrow I have to go out to see my mates out of the city. |
| 23:05.13 | unborn | also this makes me wander - why xchat is still in repos then? |
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| 23:06.01 | TomTomTosch | it will be not after jessie. |
| 23:06.33 | dvs | someone just needs to file a bug with that CVE and it'll probably be gone. |
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| 23:07.27 | hyperbeam | a lot of it is old habits die hard |
| 23:09.23 | kroSoft | hi all |
| 23:09.29 | unborn | okay im sold |
| 23:10.18 | kroSoft | i want to configure an eggdrop an my vps debian 8, but it's necessary to add tcl |
| 23:10.23 | kroSoft | i do this |
| 23:10.46 | kroSoft | sudo apt-get install tcl8.5 tcl8.5-dev tcllib |
| 23:10.56 | kroSoft | but the proble is the same |
| 23:11.20 | kroSoft | when i make config |
| 23:11.26 | kroSoft | i have this message |
| 23:11.45 | kroSoft | see flood |
| 23:12.02 | unborn | oh that hexchat looks like clone of xchat |
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| 23:12.25 | kroSoft | please i need help |
| 23:12.29 | unborn | configs works! that is good |
| 23:12.40 | teraflops | a *sane* *mantained* clone |
| 23:12.40 | missmbob | unborn: that's because it's a fork of xchat |
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| 23:13.49 | LtL | kroSoft: try ./configure --with-tcllib=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtcl.so' '--with-tclinc=/usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h |
| 23:14.12 | LtL | kroSoft: provided you're 86_64 |
| 23:14.28 | kroSoft | 64 |
| 23:14.37 | kroSoft | LtL |
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| 23:15.14 | hyperbeam | unborn, hexchat was a fork of xchat |
| 23:16.14 | kroSoft | LtL i try you command, see the result in #flood |
| 23:16.46 | LtL | kroSoft: you might need to enclose those paths with single quotes, check those files exist first |
| 23:17.21 | kroSoft | ok |
| 23:17.26 | kroSoft | wait |
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| 23:20.05 | LtL | kroSoft: install pastebinit |
| 23:20.23 | kroSoft | ok LtL :)) |
| 23:21.04 | unborn | hyperbeam: yeah I got that clearly. its nice that config files worked right a way.. xchat was just part of every distro Ive been used so I guess it was my bad habit to not check any other gui for irc.. I remember when hexchat started but I did not trust it for some reason.. nevermind |
| 23:21.26 | unborn | guys thanks for explanation, I would be perhaps running xchat for another decade :D |
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| 23:22.20 | LtL | kroSoft: im lagging badly |
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| 23:24.15 | LtL | okay dropping 50% packets brb |
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| 23:28.20 | kroSoft | LtL |
| 23:28.23 | kroSoft | http://pastebin.com/p9uH2Ldc |
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| 23:32.35 | LtL | kroSoft: my errors were similar, peek at this, http://paste.debian.net/786169/ |
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| 23:33.29 | wsky | will icedove 45.2 come to jessie backports? |
| 23:33.39 | wsky | also will mozilla continue the thunderbird project? |
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| 23:34.55 | TomTomTosch | i don't think it will come to backports, but security is at 45.1 now. |
| 23:35.01 | sikun | so, I am trying to install debian on a HP AIO desktop... at first, I had to disable secureboot for it to boot from the USB key as it was saying invalid keys |
| 23:35.04 | sikun | so then it installed... |
| 23:35.12 | sikun | but it is trying to install it as UEFI |
| 23:35.15 | teraflops | wsky: for the second question I don't think so |
| 23:35.19 | kroSoft | LtL libtcl.so is a shortcut in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and /usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h does not exist |
| 23:36.11 | LtL | kroSoft: run 'find /usr/ libtcl.so' and 'find /usr/ tcl.h' |
| 23:36.17 | kroSoft | ok |
| 23:36.20 | HyperBeam | sikun: Im not sure, but does your BIOS not support UEFI Boot? |
| 23:36.27 | LtL | kroSoft: youre probably missing a package |
| 23:36.43 | sikun | HyperBeam, it does |
| 23:37.02 | sikun | I have gone in, disabled secure boot, but it won't even let me enable legacy boot options |
| 23:37.03 | LtL | kroSoft: you should patch a vulnerability before compiling btw |
| 23:37.07 | sikun | keeps saying I need to disable secure boot |
| 23:37.11 | sikun | even though I have |
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| 23:38.40 | kroSoft | LtL |
| 23:38.52 | kroSoft | LtLlllllllllllllllllllllll it's worrkkkkkkkkkkkk |
| 23:39.03 | kroSoft | thank you veryyy much :DDDD |
| 23:39.47 | wsky | teraflops: so what will we use if thunderbird gets abandoned? |
| 23:39.50 | LtL | kroSoft: cool |
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| 23:39.56 | joqmos_ | Hey. |
| 23:40.02 | wsky | hello. |
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| 23:40.09 | joqmos_ | Does anyone know what theme is used in the |
| 23:40.11 | joqmos_ | Oops. |
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| 23:40.22 | teraflops | wsky: tdb is not abandoned |
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| 23:40.36 | wsky | i know it it might be in the future |
| 23:40.36 | joqmos_ | Does anyone know what theme is used in the Debian graphical installer? It looks like Clearlooks, but I am not sure... |
| 23:40.43 | mernilio | Hi all! |
| 23:41.03 | mernilio | Im sure it's Clearlooks joqmos_ |
| 23:41.26 | mernilio | There.. a perfect slide in this channel! |
| 23:41.27 | teraflops | in the future we might be kicked by an enormous rock from the sky, so who knows |
| 23:41.54 | wsky | you just said you don't think it will be continued |
| 23:42.02 | sikun | I have even tried re-enabling secureboot, telling it to use custom keys |
| 23:42.06 | wsky | so i'm asking what will we use then ... |
| 23:42.10 | sikun | but it still won't f'n boot |
| 23:42.11 | mernilio | teraflops: now hush young asshole, ur so awkward ... |
| 23:42.18 | joqmos_ | mernilio: There are some differences though. Could I dissect the installer to find the theme? |
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| 23:42.55 | mernilio | joqmos_: maybe, if some other would have the hounor? |
| 23:43.24 | TomTomTosch | mernilio: be respectful in here, please. |
| 23:43.29 | mernilio | Im most unfamiliar with american stuff. |
| 23:43.35 | sikun | I just disabled/renabled secure boot, set it to custom keys to which then booted from the UEFI thumb drive |
| 23:43.38 | wsky | TomTomTosch: teraflops was not to begin with |
| 23:43.40 | sikun | installing it one more time |
| 23:43.42 | teraflops | mernilio: you just enter here read a random message without context and I'm awkward ... |
| 23:43.48 | joqmos_ | TomTomTosch: Not unrespectful, I may have phrased my response badly. |
| 23:43.55 | mernilio | Tom I am dude! Go have some fat and Grilled! :-P |
| 23:44.10 | wsky | teraflops: stop trolling |
| 23:44.17 | TomTomTosch | joqmos_: i wasn't talking to you. |
| 23:44.30 | teraflops | wsky: sorry? |
| 23:44.34 | joqmos_ | TomTomTosch: I realized. |
| 23:44.37 | mernilio | I have laid my guns, okay? |
| 23:44.38 | wsky | teraflops: you should be. |
| 23:44.40 | joqmos_ | ;) |
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| 23:45.02 | mernilio | But.... ;-) |
| 23:45.37 | teraflops | wsky: stop asking such silly things, moxilla not putting money in thunderbird does not mean thunderbird is abandoned you fool |
| 23:45.43 | teraflops | mozilla* |
| 23:46.08 | wsky | can someone intervene to him please? |
| 23:46.16 | wsky | jelly: you around? |
| 23:46.17 | mernilio | teraflops: c'mon .. we like you man! |
| 23:46.28 | teraflops | mernilio: stfu |
| 23:46.46 | wsky | unbelivable |
| 23:47.05 | mernilio | Some pills i got from the guy running this joint .. |
| 23:47.52 | mernilio | wsky: we are all in a good mood, right? :-) |
| 23:48.07 | wsky | going down hill always when i come here |
| 23:48.23 | cafuego | ugh. ugh. ugh. how dare you. ugh. |
| 23:48.24 | mernilio | Sure! |
| 23:48.34 | teraflops | wsky: good bye then |
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| 23:48.47 | teraflops | mernilio: also stfu it you only have to say 2:11 mernilio ⸠teraflops: now hush young asshole, ur so awkward ... |
| 23:48.49 | wsky | yes. that's the last time i heard from you, troll |
| 23:48.56 | teraflops | bye |
| 23:49.23 | mernilio | teraflops: i dont like your way of talking to people! Tants not fair! |
| 23:49.30 | wsky | this is not only off topic but highly inapropriate |
| 23:49.32 | teraflops | mernilio: ignore me |
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| 23:49.51 | mernilio | No, i will put the cops on you! |
| 23:50.01 | LtL | !beer wsky |
| 23:50.01 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Yuengling Lager for wsky |
| 23:50.05 | mernilio | fucking pedophile |
| 23:50.10 | TomTomTosch | stay on topic or stay quiet... |
| 23:50.17 | teraflops | mernilio: pfff |
| 23:50.29 | cafuego | Both of you, put each other on ignore and stay on topic. |
| 23:50.40 | mernilio | Sorry.. that was my worst accusation... ;-) ^^ |
| 23:50.40 | teraflops | mernilio: are high? gross |
| 23:50.44 | teraflops | you* |
| 23:51.02 | teraflops | mernilio: dont do drugs dude |
| 23:51.34 | teraflops | cafuego: fair enough |
| 23:51.53 | mernilio | No, that's not fair enuff! |
| 23:52.34 | wsky | LtL: you can tip me so i can get actuall beer instead |
| 23:52.50 | wsky | hard to get drunk with dpkg digital beer |
| 23:53.06 | LtL | wsky: how 'bout a bitcoin :) |
| 23:53.12 | wsky | paypal? |
| 23:53.26 | sabusanta | LtL: Ill take a bitcoin too plz |
| 23:53.49 | mernilio | How can you think that going with cia drones and kill familis in afganistan supports american freedom? Its all plain stupid if you think so |
| 23:54.41 | mernilio | I dont do drugs, I have nerver used them. |
| 23:55.11 | teraflops | mernilio: in kindly suggest you to stay in fucking topic please |
| 23:55.39 | mernilio | No problem with that.! |
| 23:56.27 | sabusanta | #debian-offtopic if you'd like |
| 23:57.08 | mernilio | No.. i like it here so you can hear your mother screeam while i start up my schainsaw |
| 23:57.26 | mernilio | No.. that was overdo.. sorry! :-) |
| 23:57.52 | mernilio | I will go |
