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| 00:07.45 | kroSoft | LtL are u here |
| 00:07.55 | kroSoft | ? |
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| 00:08.45 | kroSoft | u know how i can creat a vhosts, to use it in psybnc ? |
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| 00:30.53 | alercah | Hey all. Just updated my testing machine and now xbacklight says that none of my outputs have a backlight. This is false. How do I diagnose this? |
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| 01:20.55 | _unreal_ | how would I find out what video drivers are loaded? |
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| 01:23.55 | awal1 | lsmod |
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| 01:27.01 | awal1 | _unreal_, lsmod | grep what you want |
| 01:27.13 | awal1 | you will have to find out what to grep |
| 01:27.14 | _unreal_ | there is like 3 things |
| 01:27.20 | _unreal_ | arg |
| 01:27.43 | _unreal_ | trying to make this headless modual a non headless |
| 01:28.35 | _unreal_ | awal1, I installed this http://sr.maltegrosse.de/index.php?title=Debian_armhf_server |
| 01:28.39 | _unreal_ | version 4 |
| 01:29.07 | awal1 | i'm clueless about server stuff, sorry |
| 01:29.09 | _unreal_ | but I dont know how to do the upgrade to make it a full gui system not a headless |
| 01:29.51 | awal1 | many people here run debian as server , you may get an advice later |
| 01:29.52 | snfgf | HELLO |
| 01:30.12 | awal1 | is saturday night, usually people are drunk or sleeping :P :D |
| 01:30.43 | _unreal_ | sigh.... I'm house sitting |
| 01:31.04 | _unreal_ | awal1, from this page http://sr.maltegrosse.de/index.php?title=Debian_armhf_server |
| 01:31.04 | awal1 | thats the best |
| 01:31.11 | snfgf | i am trying to understand fonts |
| 01:31.15 | _unreal_ | http://xilka.com/kernel/UPDATE-KERNEL.sh |
| 01:31.24 | _unreal_ | there is that update script |
| 01:31.28 | snfgf | right now i want to know where 'xterm*font:blah' searches for FONTS |
| 01:31.52 | snfgf | because i have many directoryes which may be searched |
| 01:32.16 | snfgf | for example, /usr/share/fonts/{X11,truetype,cmap} and more |
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| 01:32.36 | snfgf | let us say it is X11 |
| 01:32.41 | awal1 | _unreal_, no clue |
| 01:32.51 | snfgf | in X11 i have 100dpi 75dpi Type1 AND MORE |
| 01:32.55 | snfgf | O_o |
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| 01:33.18 | snfgf | fonts are not easy |
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| 01:38.08 | _unreal_ | any one alive that may be able to help? |
| 01:38.15 | _unreal_ | http://paste.debian.net/786180 |
| 01:40.26 | missmbob | you know curl isn't default, right? did you apt-get install it? |
| 01:40.30 | awal1 | snfgf, what are you trying to do? change xterm fonts? |
| 01:41.48 | snfgf | awal1, yes and my objective is to understand how fonts work and how fc-* tools work and all the relevant configuration directories so i can easily do things in future that should be simple like changing xterm font |
| 01:42.51 | snfgf | awal1, i would also like to know how i may uninstall fonts because i am only using 1 yet have several thousand |
| 01:43.48 | awal1 | snfgf, fc-list will list all the fonts you have |
| 01:44.15 | awal1 | apt-cache search fonts may be helpful for uninstall fonts pkgs |
| 01:45.24 | themill | "aptitude search ~nfont~i" might be instructive, but it's not like these are big packages anyway |
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| 01:46.12 | awal1 | to make xterm use X font set that via Xdefaults or Xressources "xterm*font: your font" |
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| 01:47.06 | awal1 | there is also xterm -fn yourfont but I havent tried it and dont know how it works |
| 01:47.23 | snfgf | i think my first step is to remove most fonts because fc-list just shows too many |
| 01:47.42 | awal1 | man xterm | less then check RESSOURCES SECTION FOR FONTS STUFF |
| 01:48.03 | snfgf | apt-cache search fonts returns LOTS of packages |
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| 01:49.17 | awal1 | I use DejaVu variant and I have installed ttf-dejavu pkg |
| 01:50.23 | snfgf | why does 'apt-cache search fonts' return so many more packages than 'aptitude search ~nfont~i'? |
| 01:51.18 | awal1 | snfgf, apt search for what you have asked |
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| 01:51.30 | _unreal_ | solved my update issue that was part of that pastebin, I was missing "curl" |
| 01:51.59 | awal1 | fonts pkgs usually start with fonts-, ttf-, oft- |
| 01:52.19 | awal1 | otf-, not oft- |
| 01:52.20 | _unreal_ | yay auto downloading lots of moduals :) |
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| 01:53.25 | snfgf | awal1, what is correct way to search for packages that for example start with 'fonts-'? apt search fonts-* ? |
| 01:54.09 | awal1 | snfgf, try it , thats why I told you how fonts pkg names start usually |
| 01:54.58 | awal1 | snfgf, in your case aptitude will be more suitable |
| 01:55.57 | awal1 | aptitude search ttf- or fonts- or otf- and if you see at the beginning of the fonts listed i that means it's installed |
| 01:56.16 | snfgf | ty |
| 01:56.16 | awal1 | thats all |
| 01:56.24 | snfgf | i also get xfonts search results |
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| 01:56.38 | snfgf | event though i searched fonts-* |
| 01:56.45 | snfgf | just wondering why that is |
| 01:57.00 | awal1 | https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts |
| 01:57.24 | snfgf | don't know why i have all thse font packages |
| 01:57.37 | snfgf | might take me some time to remove |
| 01:57.51 | themill | snfgf: apt-cache search is telling you about the packages that are available, not the packages that are installed. |
| 01:58.00 | themill | snfgf: btw what actual problem are you trying to solve? |
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| 01:58.40 | snfgf | tidying up fonts |
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| 01:59.31 | snfgf | also in my aptitude results i have many pairs of two lines, the first begins with 'P' (package?) and the next with 'v' (version?); i am using 64bit debian yet all the versions are i386 |
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| 02:00.09 | awal1 | snfgf, if you want to check only the installed fonts use aptitude for ?installed |
| 02:00.17 | awal1 | try aptitude search '~i ttf-' |
| 02:00.22 | themill | 'tidying up' is a activity not a problem |
| 02:00.46 | awal1 | v virtual |
| 02:00.54 | snfgf | awal1, much better |
| 02:02.26 | awal1 | ~i is a short for ask aptitude to show the pkg only if installed |
| 02:02.26 | apt | You is a short for ask aptitude to show the pkg only if installed? |
| 02:03.06 | snfgf | what does the 'A' beside the 'i' in the results mean? |
| 02:03.41 | awal1 | snfgf, automatically installed |
| 02:03.45 | awal1 | check man aptitude |
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| 02:05.27 | snfgf | i have my lists of font packages now how do i find the name to use with xterm*font:? |
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| 02:08.19 | awal1 | cf-list and choose one |
| 02:08.46 | awal1 | fc-list |
| 02:09.13 | awal1 | Me I use DejaVu Sans, for example |
| 02:09.13 | snfgf | okay, thanks |
| 02:09.17 | snfgf | how do i check my current font? |
| 02:09.44 | awal1 | because the fonts are compatible with non latin alphabets |
| 02:10.07 | awal1 | they are similar to Bitsream Vera ones but with |
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| 02:10.21 | awal1 | but with non latin characters support |
| 02:10.35 | awal1 | your current font? |
| 02:10.38 | awal1 | no clue |
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| 02:11.08 | awal1 | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html |
| 02:11.23 | snfgf | i notice that the fonts of fc-list have :style=Some Style after their names |
| 02:11.37 | awal1 | a litle bit out to date but still current |
| 02:11.48 | snfgf | do i include the :style part? |
| 02:11.55 | snfgf | in .Xresources |
| 02:11.58 | awal1 | Ok, one example more and i go watch my movie |
| 02:12.53 | awal1 | I use: DejaVu Sans:size=8:style=Bold:antialias=True |
| 02:13.10 | snfgf | ty for the help |
| 02:14.05 | snfgf | i have this line |
| 02:14.20 | snfgf | XTerm*font: Bitstream Charter:style=Italic |
| 02:14.31 | snfgf | that doesn't appear to change anything after i reload .Xresources |
| 02:16.01 | snfgf | it looks like it's a '.pfb' font file whatever that is |
| 02:17.45 | awal1 | depending on the DE, WM or program, you may need to use size= or pixelsize= |
| 02:18.18 | awal1 | you have that where? |
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| 02:19.28 | snfgf | font file for Bitstream Charter is /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/ |
| 02:20.06 | sikun | so yeah, I am bored as hell.. wanted to try something after getting an idea at Walmart... I saw they had some 32GB flash drives for like $8 or something.. so I bought 4 of them and a USB hub. I have them all configured in a RAID 0 array atm, but question |
| 02:20.26 | sikun | if I plug this hub into another linux machine, is each drive tagged by mdadm as a raid device or part of a raid array |
| 02:20.58 | sikun | and yes, this is a rather pointless task at hand |
| 02:21.00 | sikun | lol |
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| 02:22.21 | awal1 | create a hidden plain text file in you home named .Xdefaults and put in the file xterm*font: Bitstream Charter |
| 02:22.48 | awal1 | save it and run in terminal xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults |
| 02:22.53 | awal1 | check if it works |
| 02:23.23 | awal1 | xterm*font: Bitstream Charter:Italic ^ |
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| 02:24.44 | awal1 | or maybe better xterm*font: Bitsream Charter:pixelsize=thesizeyouwant:Italic |
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| 02:25.34 | snfgf | no style=Italic? |
| 02:25.50 | awal1 | snfgf, just giving you piste. play with all combinations size=..., pixelsize=, :Italic, style=Italic and so |
| 02:26.24 | awal1 | I change fonts for other terminals like mrxvt and a few more apps but not xterm |
| 02:26.34 | awal1 | bcoz I dont use it so much |
| 02:26.51 | awal1 | I use mrxvt, guake, terminator and lxterminal |
| 02:26.59 | awal1 | juste pistes |
| 02:27.29 | awal1 | dont forget to merge you .Xdefaults when done with the file |
| 02:27.53 | awal1 | and you will have to load it when you login in your X session |
| 02:28.09 | awal1 | but thats another story, it depends on you DE/WM |
| 02:29.07 | awal1 | xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults if in X yet |
| 02:29.45 | awal1 | xxrdb ~/.Xdefaults in your startup/autostart file if using a window manager |
| 02:30.32 | awal1 | if gnome, kde...add that command to apps started at login. check the DE system settings |
| 02:30.53 | snfgf | maybe the font after XTerm*font:, needs to have a format like -*-*-Something-*-17-*, that sort of thing? |
| 02:31.11 | awal1 | maybe |
| 02:31.19 | awal1 | I dont use xterm so much |
| 02:31.28 | awal1 | just agve you pistes |
| 02:31.55 | awal1 | ok, Mr snfgf, I'm off now; movie relax time :) |
| 02:32.08 | snfgf | thank you for the help :) |
| 02:32.13 | monoxane | *monolog intensifies* |
| 02:32.27 | wsky | ok, this has to be said, Debian gets the job done |
| 02:33.02 | awal1 | :) :D |
| 02:33.45 | wsky | i've spent last 120 minutes on scripting, graphics and editing few sorts of data, all in my cozy Jessie environment |
| 02:33.46 | awal1 | monoxane, instead of criticising, you may try to help ... |
| 02:35.00 | monoxane | I can't help, I'm not exactly a power user |
| 02:35.15 | awal1 | so, s***p |
| 02:35.18 | wsky | power users exist only in windows |
| 02:35.29 | awal1 | I got a lot of hep from debian users here |
| 02:35.36 | awal1 | I try to help as I can |
| 02:35.42 | awal1 | I know the guy is lost... |
| 02:36.08 | wsky | on linux, we call that admins |
| 02:37.40 | wsky | funny, chroimius still haven't fixed it's bugs |
| 02:37.57 | wsky | it's around 2 months since the latest chromium stable release? |
| 02:38.15 | monoxane | Yup |
| 02:38.35 | wsky | they can't get their stuff together |
| 02:38.47 | wsky | the main reasone i've switched back to firefox |
| 02:38.50 | monoxane | I spent 5 hours yesterday trying to actually sign into chromium and the support chans wouldn't help me |
| 02:38.53 | wsky | reson* |
| 02:39.00 | wsky | reason* |
| 02:39.07 | wsky | well in my case it's the site rendering issue |
| 02:39.21 | wsky | content blinks while hovering the pointer over a link |
| 02:39.38 | wsky | make the browsing at least annoying |
| 02:39.50 | wsky | and basically impossible in the long run |
| 02:40.45 | wsky | and poppler and ImageMagick are true blessings from the great cow |
| 02:41.16 | wsky | you can do wonders with them and a bit of bash |
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| 02:41.58 | wsky | if not that i'd be brainlessly clicking in gimp for the last 2 hours and it still would not be done |
| 02:43.33 | wsky | !coffee all |
| 02:43.33 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of hippy-blend International Roast Caterers Blend for all, courtesy of wsky |
| 02:44.18 | badcam | Hi there. Virtualbox Debian Jessie, Windows XP guest. Can't get bridged Adaptor to stay persistent. Used to use Mint 13. Are ifconfig & tunctl no longer the way to set a bridge up? |
| 02:44.39 | wsky | proposes Stevies Ray Vaughan's "Pride and Joy" to be the officiall Debian anthem |
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| 02:47.09 | badcam | I've set up 10.0.1.1 on Host and 10.0.1.2 on Guest. They work, but won't stay persistent. If I run ifconfig tap0 10.0.1.1 as Root, the it'll start working again. BUt if I restart VB I lose it again. I've tried setting tap0 in rc.local and network/interfaces |
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| 02:51.08 | radio_nowhere | Is anyone running systemd 230 from backports? Any compelling reasons to upgrade? |
| 02:52.38 | badcam | I used to follow these instructions for Mint 13 and they worked every time. How is Debian different please? http://www.giannistsakiris.com/2007/11/01/host-only-networking-for-virtualbox/ |
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| 04:03.16 | hanasaki | how can a system be reset to just the base packages from netinstall? |
| 04:04.31 | themill | hanasaki: that's not actually a well defined set of packages, btw |
| 04:04.33 | themill | !uninstall everything |
| 04:04.33 | dpkg | To uninstall just about every package from your machine except the ones in the "standard" install, try something like: "aptitude purge ~i ~pstandard+ ~prequired+ ~pimportant+". Add additional packages with a + or : after them to the end to stop them being removed. Look *carefully* at what aptitude is planning to do to make sure you agree. Ask me about <aptitude docs>. |
| 04:05.20 | themill | Note that your system will not be bootable after that. |
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| 04:08.13 | Guest93662 | i installed debian 8.5 amd64 in one network and everithing worked fine. I moved it in a nother network and i have no name resolution i modified /etc/resolv.conf but the settings get erased i have another computer that i installed debian in the nwe network and it works fine can someone help for the name resution on the first computer (so i can ping google.com insteadof an ip addr) |
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| 04:09.52 | hanasaki | thank you |
| 04:10.18 | hanasaki | so I had a netinstall minimal and did dpkg --get-selections > file |
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| 04:11.00 | hanasaki | then on the other box dpkg --set-selections < file followed by aptitude upgrade however it did not uninstall all the extra pacakges. why not |
| 04:11.32 | Rusty1_ | Guest93662: unable to resolve lan hostnames or wan? |
| 04:11.59 | Guest93662 | 1 |
| 04:12.05 | Guest93662 | wan |
| 04:13.18 | themill | hanasaki: look at your file of selections -- it does not include instructions to remove packages |
| 04:13.24 | Rusty1_ | post resolv.conf on a paste site , dpaste.com for example |
| 04:13.26 | Guest93662 | i can ping 8.8.8.8(or any other wan ip addr |
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| 04:14.25 | Guest93662 | resolve.conf is empty and try to fill it with the rightneme servers it gets erased |
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| 04:20.53 | themill | Guest93662: are you using dhcp on both networks? |
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| 04:30.02 | hanasaki | themill: thank you. how can all the packages not listed be removed? |
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| 04:40.17 | themill | hanasaki: I guess you could hack about with comm and sed to achieve that |
| 04:40.27 | emiliow7 | hey guy - sorry I was few minutes ago in here asking why resolv.conf is emptied in debian even after I populate it with the right nameservers ? |
| 04:40.44 | themill | emiliow7: are you using dhcp on both networks? |
| 04:41.17 | emiliow7 | themill: I am connected to comcast modem/router |
| 04:41.22 | emiliow7 | dhcp both |
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| 04:41.42 | themill | so it sounds like your dhcp server is sending unhelpful dns servers |
| 04:41.45 | emiliow7 | I tried to add manually resolv.conf but it is weird the content gets teletit |
| 04:42.30 | themill | What is actually in /etc/resolv.conf after that happens? |
| 04:42.39 | emiliow7 | themill: but the new installation of debian (in other computer) i the same network (hence the same dhcp server) works, is just the computer I moved from another location that does not get DNS |
| 04:43.20 | emiliow7 | themill: completely empty - even if as root I edit it - I save but when I get out - the content gets deleted |
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| 04:43.54 | emiliow7 | !resolv |
| 04:43.59 | themill | not even any comments? |
| 04:44.36 | emiliow7 | themill: no - usually it would say setup by network manager - I tried to configure the network cards |
| 04:44.51 | emiliow7 | both through /etc/network/interfaces and network manager |
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| 04:46.14 | themill | doing both is unlikely to be helpful |
| 04:46.44 | themill | Pick the method you actually want to use and then stick with that |
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| 05:19.24 | cvr | dfka: do you have any unpartitioned space on the disk? |
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| 05:51.39 | han-solo | how to know if the notification-daemon has started or not? |
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| 05:51.56 | han-solo | service --status-all |
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| 05:56.54 | jmcnaught | han-solo: notification-daemon is a part of GNOME, it wouldn't be started at boot like system services |
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| 05:57.52 | han-solo | yeah, so i have to do /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon? |
| 05:57.54 | han-solo | everytime? :/ |
| 05:59.14 | jmcnaught | i don't know enough about GNOME internals to know if/when it's supposed to run. it has a file in /etc/xdg/autostart. I don't seem to be missing any notifications, are you missing them? |
| 06:00.14 | han-solo | i'm not missing anything, |
| 06:00.59 | han-solo | and everyone is saying i have to change the NoDisplay=false; and change other two lines |
| 06:01.31 | han-solo | can you send notifications from cli without any problem? :/ |
| 06:02.09 | jmcnaught | han-solo: i don't know i've never tried. what are you trying to do that you're haivng a problem with? |
| 06:02.31 | han-solo | i'm trying to use the "notify-send" |
| 06:02.32 | han-solo | to send notifications to desktop |
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| 06:04.58 | jmcnaught | so what command do you use? what happens? |
| 06:05.34 | han-solo | i installed libnotify which provide the notify-send |
| 06:05.42 | han-solo | i use notify-send "hello world" |
| 06:05.46 | han-solo | and nothing happens |
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| 06:06.01 | papapiha | I want to do 4 boot, I am going with this partitioning scheme (104GB /dev/sda1 extended --> 4G /dev/sda2(swap), 20GB -- roots (/dev/sda3, /dev/sda4, /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6)) and rest with primary partition for /home. would this work? |
| 06:06.08 | han-solo | maybe it have something to do with dbus? |
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| 06:06.41 | han-solo | gonna try to reinstall |
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| 06:07.32 | jmcnaught | reinstalling stuff on Debian usually doesn't change anything. for some packages dpkg-reconfigure can be helpful, probably not for desktop libraries though |
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| 06:08.26 | han-solo | yeah |
| 06:08.31 | han-solo | still nothing |
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| 06:09.21 | jmcnaught | han-solo: i notice that i don't even have libnotify-bin installed, so it doesn't look like GNOME on Debian depends on it anymore. I do have libnotify4 installed, that's it |
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| 06:10.33 | han-solo | and notify-send works? |
| 06:11.09 | jmcnaught | han-solo: no, notify-send is in the libnotify-bin package, which i don't have. |
| 06:11.21 | han-solo | okay |
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| 06:12.25 | han-solo | so how do you send the notification to desktop? :/ |
| 06:12.42 | jmcnaught | han-solo: maybe GNOME 3 only used the newer libnotify4 version of the library that doesn't work with libnotify-bin, i don't know much about how desktop notification works. I imagine the https://freedesktop.org/ has some information about it though |
| 06:13.04 | han-solo | btw, i can't see anything below (the bottom tab, if it exist), 'cos my monitor is messed up(short circuit, got it) |
| 06:13.51 | jmcnaught | han-solo: i have no idea which bottom tab you're talking about |
| 06:13.53 | han-solo | okay. THnaks |
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| 06:13.58 | Dancus | msg NickServ SET CLOAK ON |
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| 06:14.53 | han-solo | you know, the tab thing (a tab where you pin your frequently use apps), like in the windows |
| 06:15.09 | han-solo | i don't know if it's there |
| 06:15.29 | han-solo | tereaflops said something about it, i don't know |
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| 06:17.54 | jmcnaught | han-solo: in gnome-shell's activities overview there is a bar on the left edge of the screen called the dash which has icons for favourite and currently running programs. is that what you mean? |
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| 06:19.26 | han-solo | not precisely |
| 06:19.48 | han-solo | you know, at the bottom |
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| 06:21.12 | han-solo | well, thanks jmcnaught |
| 06:21.34 | han-solo | apparently, there's a pop bar at the bottom of the desktop |
| 06:21.53 | han-solo | and the notifications are there |
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| 06:23.13 | popdisk_ | anyone here? |
| 06:23.18 | han-solo | i couldn't see it because, te hbottom of my monitor is kinda in a grey color now, because of the short circuit |
| 06:23.41 | han-solo | i wish i could get you an image, sorry |
| 06:24.20 | popdisk_ | My machine couldn't shutdown or reboot completely,any idea? |
| 06:25.21 | wsky | see what stage is it hanging at |
| 06:25.25 | jmcnaught | popdisk_: look at the logs for the shutdown or reboot |
| 06:27.11 | han-solo | jmcnaught: btw, the notify-send is working. You can try it |
| 06:27.33 | jmcnaught | han-solo: cool but thanks i'm good |
| 06:27.39 | han-solo | yeah |
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| 06:31.08 | hoijui | i am on trisquel linux 7 (32bit), and want t install a package from a 3rd party repo: linux-libre32 |
| 06:31.45 | hoijui | when i try to do that, it fails because of "missing dependency freesh-keyring:i386" |
| 06:32.09 | hoijui | there is a package freesh-keyring (wiht archtecture all) |
| 06:32.16 | hoijui | i manually installed it |
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| 06:33.14 | hoijui | but somehow the dependency on freesh-keyring gets translated to freesh-keyring:i386, and then does not accept freesh-keyring(:all) |
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| 06:33.40 | hoijui | and because freesh-keyring:i386 does not exist, dependency resolving algo fails.. |
| 06:33.47 | hoijui | what can be the reason? |
| 06:33.58 | popdisk_ | I checked the log and found that debian killed some of services while network and power still running |
| 06:34.04 | hoijui | (btw, same scenaio works on trisquel 65bit) |
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| 06:34.17 | hoijui | scenario* |
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| 06:35.18 | popdisk_ | "shutdown -h now" or "reboot" is useless and i had to use "halt -p" or "poweroff" to turn it down |
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| 06:37.55 | jmcnaught | popdisk_: oh yes, systemd distinguishes between halt and poweroff. they do the same thing in sysvinit |
| 06:38.26 | jmcnaught | !trisquel |
| 06:38.26 | dpkg | Trisquel is a Spanish distribution initially based on Debian, now Ubuntu. It is not supported in #debian. http://trisquel.info/en #trisquel on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 06:38.32 | jmcnaught | hoijui: ^^ |
| 06:40.05 | hoijui | jmcnaught, k ;) |
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| 07:09.54 | maziar | i use rm -rf * in /tmp/ , now i want to undo my job, i mean recover all file in /tmp/ how should i do it ? |
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| 07:11.36 | Amun_Ra | in general - you can't |
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| 07:12.26 | BenNZ | maziar: you dont need to clean /tmp that is done automatically |
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| 07:13.08 | maziar | BenNZ i remove all file in /tmp via "rm -rf *" is it posible to restore that files ? |
| 07:13.42 | BenNZ | maziar: not easily , if you wanted them why did you remove them ? |
| 07:15.14 | BenNZ | maziar: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/80270/unix-linux-undelete-recover-deleted-files |
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| 07:32.52 | vahe | hi free people! :) how to open .exe as archive ? |
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| 07:39.56 | vahe | how to open .exe as archive ? |
| 07:40.33 | musca | 7z can do it. |
| 07:41.25 | OtakuSenpai | p7zip |
| 07:41.55 | OtakuSenpai | something like tht...the name of the terminal program |
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| 07:42.21 | vahe | musca: OtakuSenpai thanks :) |
| 07:42.36 | musca | hmm, p7zip-rar is needed https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=501254#22 |
| 07:42.37 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/501254 in p7zip-full (open, unreproducible): «can list but extracting gets "Unsupported Method"»; severity: normal; opened: 2008-10-06; last modified: 2008-10-06. |
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| 07:42.59 | OtakuSenpai | cool :D |
| 07:44.22 | musca | jidanni is an experienced bughunter |
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| 07:46.20 | vahe | p7zip -d ? |
| 07:46.50 | vahe | musca: p7zip -d /home/file.exe? |
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| 07:49.44 | OtakuSenpai | man p7zip :) |
| 07:49.49 | vahe | ah :D |
| 07:49.51 | vahe | thanks |
| 07:50.00 | vahe | :P |
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| 07:50.06 | OtakuSenpai | yeah its in the repos iirc |
| 07:54.02 | han-solo | !ncurses |
| 07:54.02 | dpkg | i guess ncurses is a free clone of curses, a library for the management of in- and output for character-cell based terminals and terminal emulators. If you want to install ncurses, you most likely want to: aptitude install libncurses5-dev |
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| 09:27.42 | aIrWoLf_hit | !welcome |
| 09:27.42 | dpkg | Thank you, airwolf_hit. |
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| 09:50.15 | al_nz1 | Hi All |
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| 09:50.48 | al_nz1 | I am running Debian as a VM in VBOX. WHen I installed the guest addons I no longer get the GUI (GDM3) just a CLI login |
| 09:50.58 | al_nz1 | nothing sticks out on syslog |
| 09:51.03 | al_nz1 | where else should I look |
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| 10:09.20 | _aeris_ | Hello debian ! |
| 10:09.34 | _aeris_ | whatâs the policy about upstream bug report forward ? |
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| 10:09.51 | _aeris_ | if i open a bug on debian bt, should i report it upstream too ? |
| 10:10.20 | missmbob | _aeris_: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting don't send it upstream |
| 10:10.40 | musca | no, the maintainer will do it, if necessary |
| 10:10.58 | _aeris_ | ok, thanks :) |
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| 10:15.16 | damo22 | trying to upgrade jessie to stretch, i get hash sum mismatch when i update my package list |
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| 10:16.26 | al_nz1 | anyone here able to help me diag gdm3 not starting |
| 10:16.33 | al_nz1 | where to look for logs would be good |
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| 10:17.38 | missmbob | al_nz1: try /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 10:20.40 | sn0wmonster | https://dribbble.com/shots/2870061-DuckDuckD-oh |
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| 10:25.09 | al_nz1 | missmbob: thats had a good clue |
| 10:25.15 | al_nz1 | vboxvideo driver not loaded |
| 10:25.43 | missmbob | al_nz1: did you install your kernel headers? |
| 10:26.17 | missmbob | al_nz1: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` (in the client) |
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| 10:28.06 | al_nz1 | sure did |
| 10:28.15 | al_nz1 | just reran the command and its all up to date |
| 10:30.11 | missmbob | al_nz1: what does dpkg -l virtualbox-guest-dkms say? in guest of course |
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| 10:33.01 | al_nz1 | missmbob: https://goo.gl/photos/9MQr8zWAtYEBc65JA |
| 10:33.31 | missmbob | al_nz1: nevermind |
| 10:33.32 | missmbob | !kali |
| 10:33.33 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 10:33.57 | al_nz1 | missmbob: sigh |
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| 10:34.58 | al_nz1 | missmbob: did the guest dkms look ok tho? |
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| 10:36.17 | missmbob | al_nz1: so far. we barely started looking at things. on debian this might work sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare && m-a update && m-a a-i virtualbox-guest |
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| 10:39.02 | al_nz1 | nah, it didnt complete all of that |
| 10:39.22 | missmbob | al_nz1: add sudo to the last to. but otherwise ask #kali |
| 10:39.24 | al_nz1 | the problem lies in the Vbox graphics driving failing aye? |
| 10:39.26 | missmbob | two* |
| 10:40.05 | al_nz1 | it says vbox guest source failed |
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| 10:42.58 | al_nz1 | and trying to start GDM3 flashins a message about vbox-add service failed |
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| 10:58.04 | Tucker | hello |
| 10:58.39 | Tucker | i got trouble booting into my debian i am always getting to the mergency console |
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| 10:58.52 | Tucker | emergency console |
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| 10:59.25 | jelly | can you make a screenshot and let people see the output before that happens? |
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| 10:59.56 | Tucker | before there is ja start job for /dev/uuid.... is running with red jumping dots |
| 11:00.13 | Tucker | is that the behavior if hdd could not be mounted? |
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| 11:00.35 | jelly | it might be |
| 11:00.39 | Megaf | Hi all |
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| 11:01.02 | Tucker | is the solution to remove that hdd from fstab? |
| 11:01.25 | Megaf | do we have a bot here that shows package information? |
| 11:01.29 | jelly | Tucker, if you have a hdd in fstab that is not present any more, sure |
| 11:01.44 | jelly | !judd |
| 11:01.44 | dpkg | judd is a window into the Ultimate Debian Database (ask me about <udd>). Judd can look up package, PCI ID and kernel config information. See http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ for detailed information, or ask me about <judd-packages>, <judd-hardware>, <source judd>. |
| 11:01.51 | jelly | Megaf, ^^ |
| 11:02.13 | Tucker | ok is there a solution to config it to skip hdds not present anymore at boottime? |
| 11:02.26 | Tucker | i think it is caused by a usbhdd i plugged once before |
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| 11:03.56 | jelly | Tucker, merely plugging and mounting would not add it to /etc/fstab, if it's present there, you had to do it manually |
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| 11:07.10 | Tucker | thx jelly this solved the problem, yeah i mounted the disk by the disk-manager i think it has added it to fstab |
| 11:07.51 | afx_ | Hello ! Where can I find the source code of default network tools of debian 8 . To be specific I am interested in traceroute gui and the way it parses traceroute output |
| 11:08.38 | _aeris_ | afx_ > whatâs the executable filename ? |
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| 11:09.32 | afx_ | _aeris_, gnome-nettool |
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| 11:11.19 | _aeris_ | afx_ > https://sources.debian.net/src/gnome-nettool/3.8.1-1/ |
| 11:11.32 | afx_ | thank you very much _aeris_ |
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| 11:19.32 | rozie | hello. I'm after a bit messy and complicated upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie on my Dockstar (armel) |
| 11:19.41 | rozie | everything is OK, but... |
| 11:20.01 | rozie | wget stopped working. ldd /usr/bin/wget shows: |
| 11:20.12 | rozie | libtasn1.so.3 => /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.3 (0xb6bad000) |
| 11:20.20 | rozie | there is no such file as /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.3 |
| 11:21.04 | rozie | there is /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.6 instead, which is symlink |
| 11:21.06 | rozie | /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.6 -> libtasn1.so.6.3.2 |
| 11:21.56 | rozie | I created /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.3 which is symlink to /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libtasn1.so.6 and wget works now, but I wonder what went wrong and what is recommended way to fix this (without symlinkin) |
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| 11:30.59 | nohair | hi.. how to rename file using terminal? |
| 11:31.29 | rozie | man mv, man cp, man rename |
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| 11:32.16 | nohair | thanks bang rojie |
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| 11:34.13 | rozie | well, seems like reinstallation of wget fixed this |
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| 11:52.42 | hassoon | d'oh |
| 11:52.53 | hassoon | isn't the new flash plugin version included in the repositories |
| 11:54.11 | missmbob | jessie-backports has the same version as sid...so yeah. |
| 11:54.27 | missmbob | assuming you're talking about browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash |
| 11:54.40 | hassoon | nah, i'm talking baout hte one for firefox |
| 11:54.44 | hassoon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:54.50 | missmbob | that is the one for firefox that you should be using |
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| 11:54.59 | missmbob | https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash |
| 11:55.03 | hassoon | isn't pepperflash for chromium ? :i |
| 11:55.22 | missmbob | hassoon: it's a wrapper. read the link i just sent you |
| 11:55.31 | hassoon | ok |
| 11:55.31 | missmbob | hassoon: remove whatever else you have |
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| 11:58.10 | hassoon | missmbob: i mean there has been this flashplugin-nonfree package that installs the adobe flash plugin for iceweasel/firefox, isn't it ? |
| 11:58.23 | hassoon | so that confused me |
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| 11:59.08 | missmbob | hassoon: there is. doesn't mean you should use it :P |
| 11:59.11 | MaBunny | why could you need flash,hasoon? |
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| 12:00.14 | Sector89 | who needs flash these days? The major browsers are deprecating it anyway in the coming months. |
| 12:00.23 | hassoon | MaBunny: to access flash content across the internet |
| 12:00.42 | MaBunny | youtube doesnt require flash these days |
| 12:00.53 | MaBunny | and only some game sites need it |
| 12:01.07 | hassoon | youtube is not a major thing in my iternet usage |
| 12:01.15 | missmbob | youtube isn't the end all of videos. news sites (cnn, whatever), national channels (fox, cbs, nbc, abc, etc) all require flash |
| 12:01.17 | MaBunny | flash has major sec faults which could compromise your box |
| 12:01.58 | hassoon | meh why is it widespread then |
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| 12:02.09 | missmbob | because html5 didn't exist |
| 12:02.17 | hassoon | ah wait |
| 12:02.24 | hassoon | there is this html5 video player hting |
| 12:02.33 | MaBunny | yeah |
| 12:02.39 | MaBunny | head about it now? |
| 12:02.43 | MaBunny | *heard |
| 12:02.49 | hassoon | so can html5 make browser 3D games as good and smooth as flahs? :o |
| 12:02.51 | hassoon | * flash |
| 12:02.56 | MaBunny | yeah |
| 12:02.56 | missmbob | yes |
| 12:03.17 | MaBunny | so you want flash bcoz of browser games? |
| 12:03.36 | hassoon | dunno it's widespread and required everywhere imo |
| 12:03.52 | hassoon | not me who is demanding it |
| 12:03.54 | MaBunny | no |
| 12:04.00 | MaBunny | false |
| 12:04.10 | hassoon | not convinced |
| 12:04.11 | hassoon | :v |
| 12:04.25 | MaBunny | i dont hav flash installed in my browser |
| 12:04.34 | MaBunny | and i can surf majority of sites |
| 12:04.48 | hassoon | and what you do to access their content |
| 12:04.58 | hassoon | the gnu flash alternative ? |
| 12:04.59 | MaBunny | (btw i dont waste my time palying online games) |
| 12:05.07 | hassoon | the gnash |
| 12:05.11 | MaBunny | no...no flash at all |
| 12:05.17 | hassoon | yeah nor i do |
| 12:05.22 | hassoon | * do i |
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| 12:08.32 | TomTomTo1 | i usually use google-chrome for all my nasty non-free needs. it has flash and those pesky drm features included. |
| 12:09.02 | mavhq | I disabled flash on my windows laptop, only notice about once a month |
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| 12:10.05 | TomTomTosch | netflix and some other streaming sites rely on those, which is a shame. |
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| 12:10.31 | MaBunny | thts why we hav bittorrents |
| 12:10.44 | speedio | im about to move my root fs on my server to a ssd disk.. i have three partitions /boot, /boot/efi and / (+swap) . what type should i set /boot and /boot/efi partitions to when i create them in cfdisk? |
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| 12:11.02 | e__ | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=129175 |
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| 12:11.16 | e__ | Those instructions tell me to include something |
| 12:11.23 | e__ | and if supported, it'll include this line: alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i* |
| 12:11.46 | e__ | how would i include that in the module ath10k_pci? |
| 12:12.28 | e__ | wait |
| 12:12.29 | e__ | nvm |
| 12:12.31 | e__ | i read that wrong |
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| 12:14.07 | e__ | But why doesn't modinfo ath10k include "alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*" for me? |
| 12:14.19 | e__ | pci:v0000168Cd0000003Csv*sd*bc*sc*i* |
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| 12:14.24 | e__ | It has that instead |
| 12:14.51 | e__ | Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) is the card i have |
| 12:14.58 | e__ | in my laptop |
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| 12:15.40 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: now you are telling me to use illegal torrents for security reasons? are you joking? |
| 12:15.56 | MaBunny | no....its just tht |
| 12:15.57 | hassoon | lewl |
| 12:16.19 | MaBunny | i use it for my entertainment purposes,and its not illegal here |
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| 12:16.45 | TomTomTosch | great. around here they crucify you for pirating stuff. |
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| 12:16.57 | e__ | My question is: Why doesn't modinfo ath10k include "alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*, but it has pci:v0000168Cd0000003Csv*sd*bc*sc*i* instead. Even though I have Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) |
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| 12:17.12 | MaBunny | lool |
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| 12:17.43 | Sector89 | TomTomTosch: I've heard the reason those sites still use Flash is because dinosaur license holders don't trust HTML5 yet for DRM. Because video streaming DRM does so much to stop pirates, lol. |
| 12:17.59 | TomTomTosch | exactly. |
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| 12:18.09 | e__ | and i meant modinfo ath10k_pci |
| 12:18.35 | MaBunny | they can just take the video of their screens |
| 12:18.53 | MaBunny | to pirate those Netflix movies,esp if their hardware is good |
| 12:20.11 | Sector89 | Recording the screen requires a 1:1 time ratio though. You can actually do better with virtual network interfaces and a little memory forensics ;) |
| 12:20.24 | MaBunny | oh |
| 12:21.14 | Sector89 | DRM for video is pointless because you can't show someone something without showing them and as long as you show them, there's a way to pirate it. |
| 12:21.21 | MaBunny | is the command to set the shutdown timer at 9pm like this: shutdown 21:00 |
| 12:21.35 | e__ | Not trying to be rude, but did anyone get my question? |
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| 12:21.53 | MaBunny | Sector89: i dont kno what a DRM is |
| 12:22.07 | hassoon | !dpkg DRM |
| 12:22.07 | dpkg | methinks drm is Direct Rendering Manager, a <DRI> component (http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DRM, http://dri.sf.net/doc/drm_low_level.html), or Digital Rights Management (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management) |
| 12:22.44 | Sector89 | let's go with the second one, lol. |
| 12:22.46 | MaBunny | it would be the later |
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| 12:23.17 | Sector89 | Btw that's a pretty useful bot, lol. |
| 12:23.26 | hassoon | Sure it is. |
| 12:23.28 | MaBunny | e__: im not tht exp with kernel modules |
| 12:23.55 | Sector89 | e__ what was your question? didn't catch it the first time around and I've done a little bit with LKMs. |
| 12:24.11 | e__ | My question is: Why doesn't modinfo ath10k include "alias: pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*, but it has pci:v0000168Cd0000003Csv*sd*bc*sc*i* instead. Even though I have Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) |
| 12:24.19 | e__ | *ath10k_pci |
| 12:24.32 | Sector89 | That's over my head, sorry. |
| 12:24.41 | e__ | I was reading this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=129175 |
| 12:24.48 | MaBunny | e__ : you can try your luck in ##linux |
| 12:24.53 | e__ | Alright thank you. |
| 12:25.02 | hassoon | e__: what's with this strange nickname |
| 12:25.05 | MaBunny | just a sugg |
| 12:25.06 | hassoon | like..edward ? |
| 12:25.07 | hassoon | :o |
| 12:25.22 | MaBunny | or maybe someone here can help too |
| 12:25.23 | e__ | Just random, I thought this would be a quick fix. |
| 12:25.30 | hassoon | okey |
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| 12:26.02 | MaBunny | guys,now my turn :D |
| 12:26.07 | e__ | Im not verified so i cant speak on ##linux |
| 12:26.10 | Incubus | Hi guys. I'm using debian 8 (stable) and I'm trying to setup dhcpd (from isc-dhcp-server package) but I can't find the service file in /lib/systemd/system/ so I can't enable it to start dhcpd at boot. Am I doing something wrong? |
| 12:26.15 | MaBunny | is this correct: shutdown 21:00 |
| 12:26.31 | MaBunny | e__ : you hav to regi your name to speak there |
| 12:26.36 | hassoon | MaBunny: what is that |
| 12:26.38 | e__ | yeah hold on |
| 12:26.46 | MaBunny | with a password |
| 12:26.58 | MaBunny | ./msg nickserv help register |
| 12:27.02 | MaBunny | without the . |
| 12:27.18 | e__ | i know |
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| 12:27.26 | e__ | lol done this once or twice before |
| 12:27.32 | MaBunny | ah |
| 12:27.46 | epsilon | Incubus: did you check /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server ? |
| 12:28.08 | hassoon | MaBunny: your command is correct according to hte man, so what ? |
| 12:28.14 | hassoon | * the man |
| 12:28.23 | Incubus | epsilon,: yes, if i start it manually, the service works fine. I just can't make it start at boot |
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| 12:29.10 | Incubus | the difference i found compared to all other services, is a missing file in /lib/systemd/system/ |
| 12:29.15 | Sector89 | Incubus: Try using service command. You should still have it even if you have systemd |
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| 12:30.02 | Sector89 | Specifically consult: https://wiki.debian.org/DHCP_Server |
| 12:30.21 | Incubus | sector: it says it should start at boot but it doesn0t ( [ + ] isc-dhcp-server) |
| 12:30.45 | epsilon | Incubus: any errorlog? |
| 12:31.21 | epsilon | error message, like interface not ready yet |
| 12:31.22 | Incubus | just rebooting the server to find out. When i checked yesterday i couldn't find anything but i was quite tired. |
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| 12:32.53 | MaBunny | hassoon: i didnt understand your question |
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| 12:33.08 | hassoon | MaBunny: look at you: |
| 12:33.11 | hassoon | 13:26 < MaBunny> guys,now my turn :D |
| 12:33.17 | hassoon | 13:27 < MaBunny> is this correct: shutdown 21:00 |
| 12:33.19 | hassoon | eof |
| 12:33.33 | MaBunny | oh |
| 12:34.12 | MaBunny | i was trying to ask you guys how to shutdown my box at a specified time...and hav figured it now |
| 12:34.25 | Incubus | daemon.log is empty. journalctl says i have to configure an internet for the daemon to listen on (http://pastebin.com/Eu8mpxYL) |
| 12:34.27 | hassoon | thanks to my answer? :v |
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| 12:34.57 | rozie | MaBunny: you can even wake up box at specified time |
| 12:35.09 | MaBunny | how rozie ! |
| 12:35.12 | MaBunny | tell me pls |
| 12:36.00 | rozie | MaBunny: http://rozie.blox.pl/2014/08/Obudz-sobie-Linuksa.html |
| 12:36.18 | rozie | (PL, but pretty obvious and google translate should be enough) |
| 12:36.28 | MaBunny | ok |
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| 12:38.16 | hassoon | do we mean by a 'box' a mere traditional computer ? |
| 12:38.32 | hassoon | or the intel box-sized NUC computers? whats that ? |
| 12:39.07 | MaBunny | box...as in cabinet\ |
| 12:39.22 | MaBunny | my computer |
| 12:39.31 | hassoon | what ? |
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| 12:44.29 | MaBunny | thnx rozie,ive bookmarked it |
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| 12:50.27 | bldy_fool | Could anybody tell me what is `Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary` in fdisk -l? Everything is working fine but I wanna know what this mean. |
| 12:51.40 | e__ | How would I switch to the testing repo? |
| 12:51.44 | e__ | MaBunny |
| 12:52.01 | MaBunny | ask others |
| 12:52.12 | MaBunny | im in the jessie main repo |
| 12:52.18 | MaBunny | as i said |
| 12:52.18 | e__ | How would I switch to the testing repo (directed towards anyone) |
| 12:52.26 | TomTomTosch | if you think that will fix your wifi problems you are out of luck. |
| 12:52.42 | e__ | Man, I liked this distro. |
| 12:52.52 | e__ | Really did |
| 12:53.16 | e__ | very stable |
| 12:53.25 | MaBunny | TomTomTosch: couldnt changing to testing help? |
| 12:53.31 | TomTomTosch | nope |
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| 12:54.15 | MaBunny | hmm |
| 12:54.45 | TomTomTosch | e__: Debian isn't known for supporting latest hardware. but my guess is you will have similar problems with other distros. |
| 12:55.01 | e__ | I had success with ArchBang |
| 12:55.03 | MaBunny | yeah |
| 12:55.05 | e__ | (well shortlived) |
| 12:55.11 | e__ | but success nontheless |
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| 12:55.26 | TomTomTosch | then use what works best for you. |
| 12:55.26 | MaBunny | e__> A similar problem happened when I tried to install Lubuntu |
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| 13:23.36 | MaBunny | is there a site which tells which motherboards are supported |
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| 13:26.59 | mmp | MaBunny: probably not directly; I would suggest finding out a chipset which the motherboard uses and googling a little for users running linux on it |
| 13:27.12 | MaBunny | ok |
| 13:27.29 | mmp | or, if you are brave enough, try to see whether there's a driver in linux kernel source tree |
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| 13:27.47 | MaBunny | noooo. |
| 13:27.49 | MaBunny | ... |
| 13:28.35 | mmp | or just try to google anyone having your mobo and running linux |
| 13:30.05 | mmp | a bottom line is that unless you have a too exotic motherboard pick, it's likely that it will work out of the box |
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| 13:30.27 | MaBunny | no...my motherboard could be very cheap one |
| 13:30.30 | MaBunny | \like |
| 13:30.46 | MaBunny | $70 |
| 13:31.19 | mmp | but there's still a small chance you might either need to use some kernel flags or there would be some thing not behaving properly (e.g. suspend and resume) |
| 13:31.44 | MaBunny | ok |
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| 13:36.35 | NewbAckup | Hi, I backed up a failing HDD with ddrescue to hdd.dd file. Now trying to fix/shrink the partition. I can use "fdisk -l hdd.dd" succesfully, but for fixing or shrinking online examples assume partition .dd's not device .dd's |
| 13:37.37 | NewbAckup | how can I use say ntfsfix on hdd.dd where the backup file is the whole device (i.e. boot sector & a single large ntfs partition)? |
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| 13:39.07 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: Not an expert here , but can't you just mount the device using a loopback or something ? |
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| 13:39.33 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: or in worst case stuff the image in a VM :) |
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| 13:40.20 | NewbAckup | I was also thinking about loopback, I don't really understand exactly how it works, can I have losetup create a /dev/sdbeta from it? |
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| 13:40.51 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: I have not used loopbacks much, if it was me I would feed a VM the file and play with it from there |
| 13:40.52 | NewbAckup | not sure how the VM path would work? |
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| 13:41.25 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: FIre up a virtual machine , feed it the disk file. From there you have a "real setup" and can play with it. |
| 13:41.29 | NewbAckup | not sure if the VM would be able to boot from the file, since its from an oscilloscope |
| 13:41.48 | Waxhead | Ah , did you not backup your harddrive? |
| 13:42.19 | Waxhead | Blerk... shoot me. the HD belongs to a oscilloscope! - ok got it :) |
| 13:42.37 | NewbAckup | the intent is not recovering personal files, but loading the backup on a new HDD (which is slightly smaller 32GB instead of 40, but I know the disk was hardly full at all) |
| 13:43.23 | Greek0 | packaging question: how do I include a setuid-root binary in a package when building with fakeroot? |
| 13:43.58 | NewbAckup | if possible I would prefer to fix any ntfs problems on this modern computer before letting the 2000 era computer in the oscilloscope trying to fix the disc |
| 13:44.09 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: You know what. I had a chat with google - perhaps this will help you http://softwarebakery.com/shrinking-images-on-linux |
| 13:44.11 | NewbAckup | if there are any significant problems (perhaps none) |
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| 13:45.37 | NewbAckup | Waxhead: perfect, could you tell me what search terms you used? |
| 13:46.01 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: "shrink partition image file linux" :) |
| 13:46.18 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: Google can be quite helpful sometimes.... duckduckgo is not bad either :) |
| 13:46.46 | NewbAckup | I was using duckduckgo, but I was prematurely optimizing the search with losetup etc |
| 13:47.04 | NewbAckup | thanks this should solve my problems! |
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| 13:48.26 | woshty | NewbAckup: kpartx |
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| 13:49.26 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: Just glad to help. No problem :) |
| 13:50.31 | NewbAckup | woshty: I came across kpartx on an answered resizing question, but it assumed a partition image (instead of device) |
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| 14:02.28 | han-solo | what does alt+f2 do? |
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| 14:03.09 | Waxhead | han-solo: nothing unless you press them. |
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| 14:05.16 | NewbAckup | sadly, ntfsresize tells me I need to run chkdisk /f before resizing... |
| 14:05.22 | han-solo | yeah, what do it do? whe ni press it with a command? exec it? |
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| 14:06.06 | Waxhead | han-solo: :) you need to supply more info. Alt+f2 will in XFCE open the application finder. How it is in your desktop environment I have no idea. |
| 14:06.25 | han-solo | gnome-classic |
| 14:06.52 | Waxhead | han-solo: then look up keyboard shortcuts in gnome :) |
| 14:07.03 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: can't you run fsck.ntfs on the partition ? I supposed you manage to mount the partition. |
| 14:07.04 | han-solo | yeah, |
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| 14:07.10 | cryptic | well, here goes my sunday |
| 14:07.43 | NewbAckup | Waxhead: ok, ill try that, give me some minutes to read fsck.ntfs manpage |
| 14:07.57 | han-solo | it shows the run command prompt |
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| 14:08.19 | cryptic | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wasn't the best decision of last night |
| 14:08.37 | Waxhead | NewbAckup: Well, sorry gotta run.... however here at #debian you will hopefully meet friendly people who will help you out. Good luck and cheers :) |
| 14:09.02 | r0ck_ | good luck1 |
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| 14:09.36 | NewbAckup | thanks Waxhead |
| 14:10.00 | jelly | NewbAckup, if the ntfs* tools tell you to check the filesystem using native (windows) tools, then do that |
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| 14:10.42 | NewbAckup | jelly: but the backup image is a .dd file? |
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| 14:11.36 | jelly | yeah, that's going to be interesting, then. I suspect you many have to dump the contents back onto a partition, plug that disk into a windows system, do the check |
| 14:12.28 | NewbAckup | jelly: yes, but the fresh (non-failing) HDD is 32GB instead of 40GB which is why I wanted to resize.. |
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| 14:13.25 | NewbAckup | the ddrescue recovery gave 0 errors though, but it was very slow (80kB/s most of the time) |
| 14:13.27 | jelly | find a larger disk to do the temporary dump and check there |
| 14:14.23 | NewbAckup | jelly: should I expect chkdsk to be present on "Windows 2000 professional embedded" or on some floppy image? |
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| 14:14.40 | NewbAckup | jelly, now I am thinking about running a chkdsk image in a VM |
| 14:15.54 | jelly | NewbAckup, I'd strongly suggest avoiding using a chkdsk older than the windows OS that last used that filesystem |
| 14:16.22 | jelly | sure, windows in a VM is an option |
| 14:16.59 | NewbAckup | jelly: yes good point about using a more recent chkdsk, I was thinking about a DOS chkdsk image instead of full windows in VM |
| 14:18.20 | stoned | I think UBCD has a version recent enough on it for ntfs chkdsk |
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| 14:18.43 | stoned | Nevermind that ubcd4win |
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| 14:20.40 | NewbAckup | jelly: ah probably I can just use the HDD OS's safe mode in the VM |
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| 15:09.22 | mernilio | Greetings! :-) |
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| 15:10.42 | mernilio | I just made an accoutnt on slashdot with my nickname. You know, soon the world will know what i know! :-) |
| 15:11.21 | mernilio | And i feel like a little girl writhing this ....... :-P |
| 15:12.35 | mernilio | Noway, it will be full disclouser, no holes bared. Now, its only no hole barred! <--- and ... cut! |
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| 15:15.02 | mernilio | Oh, btw.. is debian logo red and white? .. on my free time i make bird houses. Maybe i can make some good stuff there... ? |
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| 15:16.42 | mtn | mernilio: there are off-topic channels if you are just looking for a chat and not support |
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| 15:17.16 | mtn | mernilio: from the topic of this channel: offtopic: #debian-offtopic |
| 15:17.46 | mernilio | mtn: thanks for the tip! |
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| 15:26.30 | iamawesome | Hi, https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable , which one is for 64 bit cd? |
| 15:27.06 | docmur | I'm trying to use DKMS to install a module, I'm running kernel 4.5.0, I have the header package installed at /usr/src/linux-headers-4.5.0 and /lib/module/4.5.0, but I'm getting Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 4.5.0 cannot be found. from DKMS, I've tried --kernelsourcedir to set the location but it doesn't like either location |
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| 15:28.12 | iamawesome | I've intel processor |
| 15:28.30 | iamawesome | It supports 64 bit operating system. |
| 15:28.34 | Putti | iamawesome, amd64 |
| 15:29.06 | iamawesome | I don't have amd processor. |
| 15:29.08 | iamawesome | Putti: ^ |
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| 15:29.25 | maurer | iamawesome: amd64 is the name for the architecture, just like an amd 32 bit processor is still i686 |
| 15:29.35 | maurer | iamawesome: It's just a matter of which company released one first |
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| 15:30.29 | iamawesome | Normally i download from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 15:30.44 | iamawesome | But now i intend to install 64 bit debian |
| 15:31.08 | maurer | Then you want http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 15:31.52 | iamawesome | debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso why is it named amd? |
| 15:32.07 | iamawesome | I've intel processor, not amd |
| 15:32.13 | maurer | because amd was the first company to release a 64-bit cpu |
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| 15:32.38 | iamawesome | But i think, intel has also 64 bit processor. |
| 15:32.40 | maurer | Yes, and I'm telling you, calling it amd64 is just a nomenclature thing |
| 15:32.50 | jmcnaught | !amd64 |
| 15:32.50 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686-pae or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>. |
| 15:32.51 | maurer | the intel 64-bit processor is still built with as "amd64" |
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| 15:33.43 | iamawesome | debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso , will it support intel pentium D/4 64 bit processor? |
| 15:33.48 | hexnewbie | iamawesome: The x86-64 architecture was developed and introduced by AMD, and Intel later adopted it. At first, GNU/Linux distros called it amd64 to distinguish from ia64 (Itanic^WItanium), but the name stuck even after Intel started using it. |
| 15:34.08 | hexnewbie | iamawesome: Yes. |
| 15:34.37 | Zliba | alright, on one system, when I type "man cups", I get the man page. On the other system, I type "man cups" and I get nothing. what the hell? cups is installed on both. both are debian jessie |
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| 15:35.45 | iamawesome | Zliba: dpkg -l | grep cups , compare the outputs on both system |
| 15:35.57 | iamawesome | Zliba: aptitude search cups |
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| 15:39.47 | goldkatze | Hi |
| 15:40.26 | goldkatze | Anyone around using Chromium 52 as packaged in testing/unstable, who can confirm extentions working with said build? As in, am I having a local issue, or is it a Debian bug? |
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| 15:43.21 | missmbob | goldkatze: you should ask the testing/sid channel about that. |
| 15:44.02 | goldkatze | missmbob: Already done, noticed a moment too late; excuse me, please |
| 15:44.29 | goldkatze | :) |
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| 16:18.07 | eSa| | I cannot get into oftc, why? |
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| 16:20.00 | han-solo | i don't have any problem |
| 16:20.10 | han-solo | irc.oftc.net? |
| 16:20.17 | eSa| | yes |
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| 16:21.03 | eSa| | I have a SASL script running, maybe it's the cause? |
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| 16:22.14 | missmbob | last i checked we're not psychics. you haven't said what the error is or what actually happens. how could we possibly know what's goign on with you? but yes, troubleshooting it yourself is good. try getting rid of whatever scripts you're using |
| 16:22.20 | han-solo | it seems fine and alive |
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| 16:23.35 | eSa| | i've unchecked Use SSL servers |
| 16:23.44 | eSa| | now it's fine |
| 16:24.42 | awal1 | eSa| which irc client you run? |
| 16:24.56 | eSa| | xchat |
| 16:25.10 | awal1 | xchat is dead |
| 16:25.25 | awal1 | like 10 years not developed |
| 16:26.00 | awal1 | hexchat is the fork and up-to-date |
| 16:27.33 | awal1 | I guess you can use ssl without issues with oftc; but be sure to enable accper non signed certificates or something like that |
| 16:27.44 | awal1 | accept ^ |
| 16:27.57 | awal1 | no extra script needed |
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| 16:28.40 | awal1 | that works for me (hexchat); xchat should have similar feature |
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| 16:29.48 | awal1 | be sure ^not; also enable non signed if use ssl everywhere doesn't work ^ |
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| 16:33.03 | eSa| | need to 400mo of updates, I will stay with xchat for the moment |
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| 16:33.59 | awal1 | 400 ? |
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| 16:35.20 | tortib | I just got my 802.11AC wireless router and it says it's supposed to use 2.4GHz and 5Ghz to get a combined speed of about 800Mbps. I have a 1x1 Wifi card in my laptop how can I get it to connect at those speeds? |
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| 16:35.40 | tortib | right now it's only connecting at 2.4Ghz, i have to disable 2.4GHz on the router to have it connect at 5GHz and it only gets 433Mbps. |
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| 16:39.24 | awal1 | apt-cache show hexchat | grep Installed-Size ---» Installed-Size: 917 |
| 16:40.16 | awal1 | kb, of course |
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| 16:50.02 | eSa| | yes, but I've got outdated libraries and stuff. You may check http://pastie.org/10925068 |
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| 16:53.34 | ma__rc | guys, today i upgraded from jessie to stretch⦠now i'm wondering if it'd be better to run sid. you know, breakage gets fixed quicker and stuff. any ideas/experience? |
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| 16:54.16 | awal1 | eSa|, if your system is up-to-date you should get a similar size http://paste.debian.net/786224 |
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| 16:55.29 | missmbob | he's not on jessie |
| 16:55.33 | missmbob | so...yeah. |
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| 16:56.09 | missmbob | he's got a bastardized wheezy/jessie monster |
| 16:56.43 | awal1 | thats what I deduce in his output, yeah :D |
| 16:56.48 | Flippylosaurus | <Flippylosaurus> Hey there. I'm creating a new pgpkey as a replacement to 0x20EBC59A. I've got a checklist, which includes re-encrypting my passwordstore.org storage. Basically they are .gpg files containing non-ASCII armored PGP encrypted data which can be decoded by my PGP key. |
| 16:56.48 | Flippylosaurus | <Flippylosaurus> The software does not offer a way to change all passwords. |
| 16:56.48 | Flippylosaurus | <Flippylosaurus> Is there any way to do this? |
| 16:58.46 | awal1 | eSa|, you may consider dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie |
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| 17:01.23 | eSa| | thanks awal1, I'm also pondering a non working EWS88MT sound board that used to play fine. Alsa ignores it completely |
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| 17:02.47 | missmbob | !kali |
| 17:02.47 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 17:03.43 | piezoid | Hi! I have a problem with apt v1.3~pre2 on sid : |
| 17:03.51 | piezoid | apt-get update fails with «Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.fr.debian.org'» but I can ping(6) and "getent hosts" the mirror fine |
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| 17:03.57 | missmbob | piezoid: try the sid channel |
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| 17:05.49 | kalken | hello! i have a setup with dropbear ssh in grub (for encrypted disks at boot). But this temp ip survives the whole boot process. Is it possible to "deconfigure" the interface before /etc/network/interfaces is setup? |
| 17:06.14 | awal1 | eSa|, run apt-get update as root, the as normal user (for avoid any mistake) run apt-get -s dist-upgrade. You will see if is will be fine switshing from wheezy to jessie completely |
| 17:06.22 | awal1 | then as ^ |
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| 17:06.56 | piezoid | missmbob: Ok, what is the name of the channel ? I can't find it with /list |
| 17:07.13 | missmbob | piezoid: it's in the /topic. #debian-next on oftc (not freenode) |
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| 17:07.43 | missmbob | awal1: eSa| not really. he's running apache 2.2. upgrading to jessie will break that pretty badly. good times |
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| 17:08.06 | awal1 | missbob, ok |
| 17:08.13 | missmbob | awal1: eSa| anyway it's in the upgrade notes what to do about apache. |
| 17:09.02 | piezoid | missmbob: ok thanks |
| 17:09.07 | eSa| | I see |
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| 17:11.34 | eSa| | I've got a grub boot loader but I cannot see kernel choices. Was there a key to unhide the menu? |
| 17:11.51 | nyuszika7h | hold Shit |
| 17:11.52 | nyuszika7h | *Shift |
| 17:12.48 | eSa| | easy |
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| 17:22.10 | eSa| | now I'm focusing on getting a EWS88MT Soundcard properly recognized by alsa. I played happily on this setup before unplugging it one about a year ago |
| 17:22.58 | eSa| | but alsa refuses to see it, weird |
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| 17:25.39 | awal1 | eSa|, /etc/gdefault/grub and change the line GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 change 0 to X number |
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| 17:30.25 | elliot007 | Hey |
| 17:30.52 | elliot007 | everyone |
| 17:31.46 | debidi | elliot007: sup |
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| 17:32.57 | elliot007 | actually just installed fresh Jessie but my ethernet connection is pissing me off |
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| 17:33.18 | elliot007 | I don't have wireless-tools installed so can't use wifi what should i do?? |
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| 17:35.01 | fff | When will wayland replace xorg? |
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| 17:36.28 | mtn | fff: let me consult my crystal ball for a moment |
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| 17:37.21 | missmbob | fff: it still sucks on stretch. so... |
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| 17:37.39 | elliot007 | mtn: hey I know you from Manjaro |
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| 17:37.57 | mtn | elliot007: oh oh ;) |
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| 17:38.23 | elliot007 | cool right? |
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| 17:39.38 | awal1 | elliot007, "pissing you off" how? |
| 17:40.43 | elliot007 | awal1: well i wanna set it up but i'm not able to connect to internet so |
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| 17:41.15 | _abc_ | Hello. I have a parport0 in dmesg on wheezy but the device in /dev/ does not exist. What is the procedure to make it appear please? |
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| 17:41.37 | awal1 | elliot007, how you installed debian? dvd iso I guess so? |
| 17:41.50 | elliot007 | yep |
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| 17:43.07 | _abc_ | lsmod|grep par shows parport_pc etc loaded |
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| 17:43.28 | ma__rc | guys, how to disable the system beep? e.g. when hitting backspace when there's nothing to delete |
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| 17:43.51 | awal1 | elliot007, output of ip link show |
| 17:44.02 | mtn | ma__rc: which desktop are you using if any? |
| 17:44.06 | ma__rc | xfce |
| 17:44.29 | mtn | ma__rc: can you turn off system sounds in system settings/ sound? |
| 17:44.37 | teraflops | ma__rc: mute it with alsamixer |
| 17:44.43 | ma__rc | let me check |
| 17:45.18 | missmbob | ma__rc: did you try google? https://debian-administration.org/article/110/Removing_annoying_console_beeps |
| 17:45.28 | elliot007 | awal1: well I'm actually on chromium os right now so |
| 17:45.36 | missmbob | ma__rc: or https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_PC_speaker_beep |
| 17:46.13 | awal1 | elliot007, that's not debian so... |
| 17:46.46 | awal1 | or I dont understand you |
| 17:47.08 | ma__rc | "xset b off" worked |
| 17:47.11 | ma__rc | thx |
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| 17:47.30 | mtn | elliot007: only debian is supported in this channel |
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| 17:47.48 | awal1 | he said he installed jessie |
| 17:47.48 | elliot007 | actually I wanna tell that I'm on chromium not on Debian |
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| 17:48.13 | awal1 | so why you said you installed jessie? |
| 17:48.18 | missmbob | it is sunday. why not? |
| 17:48.34 | teraflops | ma__rc: I like the audible bell under xorg; ) |
| 17:48.47 | elliot007 | awal1: because I actually installed jessie but like no internet so I booted chromium from usb stick |
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| 17:49.35 | unborn | :D |
| 17:50.23 | elliot007 | awal1: ip link is not showing wlan interface just eth0 and lo |
| 17:50.56 | kalken | elliot007: you might need closed drivers for wlan |
| 17:51.16 | elliot007 | yeh but no internet so how can i install them?? |
| 17:51.24 | kalken | plug in a cable |
| 17:51.47 | elliot007 | kalken: my ethernet is not working rightnow thats the problem |
| 17:51.52 | awal1 | elliot077, boot with a live cd and install wireless/ethernet stuff. If you machine needs non free firmwares an easy way is reinstalling using an unooficial netinst cd (cd including non-free firmwares) and problem seolved |
| 17:51.56 | missmbob | or likely the firmware installer has it included |
| 17:52.30 | missmbob | !firmware images |
| 17:52.30 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 17:52.57 | awal1 | elliot007, what lspci -nn | grep -i net says? |
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| 17:54.12 | elliot007 | well i can directly tell you i am using AR9271 usb wifi card |
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| 17:54.19 | mtn | elliot007: install again using the firmware image. I always use that when installing debian |
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| 17:55.07 | elliot007 | is firmware image different from normal installation iso?? |
| 17:55.24 | mtn | elliot007: look at what dpkg just said in the channel |
| 17:55.47 | elliot007 | yep i'm on that link |
| 17:56.34 | elliot007 | is there just a .deb package for drivers which i can download on my laptop and then install it?? |
| 17:56.50 | awal1 | elliot007, I have no clue about chrome laptops but if it supports amd64 (64 bit) go to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ at the end you have the link for the iso cd. download it, burn it, boot with it as you done with the dvd and follow instructions. problem solved in 30 minutes/ 1 hour if you internet speed is good |
| 17:57.12 | elliot007 | i'm not on chrome laptop I'm on pc |
| 17:57.21 | unborn | elliot007: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/kernel/ |
| 17:57.27 | awal1 | same so |
| 17:57.43 | unborn | also elliot007 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/jessie/current/ |
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| 17:58.16 | elliot007 | okay everybody is more or less giving the same link |
| 17:58.30 | TomTomTosch | take it as a hint? |
| 17:58.33 | unborn | pick the one you need and download .deb.. login into system install it with gdebi reboot and you are done |
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| 17:59.36 | elliot007 | hey unborn you gave me the link where there is no .devb packages there are some zip files |
| 17:59.54 | elliot007 | how to use them? |
| 18:00.13 | wildbills | elliot007 here is the link to non-free .deb for your wifi card https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-atheros |
| 18:00.51 | unborn | elliot007: here you go http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-atheros_0.43_all.deb |
| 18:01.10 | unborn | elliot007: you need to click on links in that |
| 18:01.16 | elliot007 | okay guys got the .deb file |
| 18:01.44 | elliot007 | I really didn't expected this much support thanks to all |
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| 18:02.03 | PaulePanter | Hi. If I want to disable a network device, do I just remove it from `/etc/network/interfaces`? |
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| 18:02.39 | kalken | PaulePanter: if you do you need to bring it "down" first :D |
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| 18:02.48 | kalken | and then not configure it on next boot |
| 18:03.10 | kalken | ip link set dev eth0 down (for example for bringing eth0 down) |
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| 18:04.29 | domovoy | hi |
| 18:04.39 | PaulePanter | kalken: Right. I forgot that. |
| 18:05.11 | kalken | well you can reboot also :) |
| 18:05.18 | kalken | interfaces is read at boot |
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| 18:06.18 | kalken | but reboot is usually just a windows only feature :) |
| 18:06.49 | PaulePanter | kalken: sudo ifdown eth1 |
| 18:06.57 | PaulePanter | ⦠is the wrapper around that, right? |
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| 18:07.16 | PaulePanter | By the way, eth1 was never up, as it was configured for DHCP and there is no DHCP server. |
| 18:07.17 | kalken | there are a few tools that does basically the same |
| 18:07.31 | kalken | i prefer to use ip command cause its the new fresh thingy :D |
| 18:07.34 | domovoy | how can i tell apt/dpkg/debconf/whatever not to ask any question, and what answers it should use (like, if i 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata', i want it to use Europe/Paris and not ask for it) |
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| 18:07.47 | PaulePanter | kalken: Thanks a lot. |
| 18:07.52 | PaulePanter | kalken: I remove thelines below now. |
| 18:07.55 | PaulePanter | -iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 18:07.55 | kalken | PaulePanter: no problem :D |
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| 18:08.08 | PaulePanter | allow-hotplug eth1 |
| 18:08.14 | kalken | PaulePanter: sure or just put a # |
| 18:08.16 | kalken | in front of it |
| 18:08.20 | kalken | and it wont be read |
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| 18:10.03 | kalken | PaulePanter: i have a rule to put ## in front of thinks i myself comment in files, cause i can see what i have edited out later that way :) |
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| 18:10.50 | PaulePanter | kalken: I use etckeeper for that. ;-) |
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| 18:11.12 | kalken | hehe fancy |
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| 18:12.14 | PaulePanter | kalken: I can only recommend it. If more people administer a machine, itâs a good log. Unfortunately, some people are hard to teach, to add a commit message after doing a change. |
| 18:12.44 | PaulePanter | But the daily auto commit, also shows you what changed. So thatâs good too, in case something does not work or needs to be reverted. |
| 18:13.15 | kalken | :) |
| 18:14.38 | unborn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.38 | unborn | Uptime: 28m 46s ** |
| 18:14.45 | unborn | huh? |
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| 18:15.10 | unborn | sorry chaps - this new hexathing acutally works.. sorry |
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| 18:17.46 | elliot007 | hey guys i installed the driver, wireless-tools and its dependencies and now wlan0 is showing |
| 18:19.06 | wildbills | cheers |
| 18:20.55 | _abc_ | unborn: so you need a quad core latest model 64 bit machine to run an irc client now? <sncr> |
| 18:21.20 | lo0m | /window |
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| 18:21.26 | unborn | _abc_: you what? |
| 18:21.35 | _abc_ | Meanwhile I solved my problem. *thanks* ;( |
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| 18:21.44 | unborn | _abc_: i just pressed wrong thingy |
| 18:21.47 | unborn | that was all |
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| 18:35.22 | tripkin | unborn, I think he was referring the hardware specs needed to run hexchat according to your sistem info dump. |
| 18:35.52 | tripkin | Pretty funny. Hexchat appears to be high requirement app. |
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| 18:37.36 | unborn | tripkin: ah nope.. greycat suggested me along with others to switch to hexachate and as I am going via menu modifying things I just pressed wrong thing.. |
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| 18:38.33 | tripkin | Ah. I have been using it for a while. Like it. I have a nice color scheme for it now as well. |
| 18:39.27 | unborn | tripkin: hm - I think sounds not working on it, for some reson, perhaps its me. yeah green text is bit funny.. |
| 18:39.45 | tripkin | Yup. lol |
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| 18:41.29 | Guest32377 | tripkin not sure of that but window plugins and scripts FiSHLiM has encryption support with passwords used both ways |
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| 18:42.59 | unborn | tripkin: been using xchat for about decade heh so - i was a bit behind with it, you know bad habit :) |
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| 18:47.51 | Zliba | unborn, wat? how did you get that printout info? |
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| 18:48.42 | unborn | Zliba: window > system info |
| 18:48.48 | unborn | by accident heh |
| 18:50.46 | unborn | tripkin: screenshot? :) |
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| 18:52.23 | grumpycatt | or you have commands, all listed by /help |
| 18:54.06 | tripkin | unborn, sure, what do you want a screenshot of? |
| 18:54.45 | unborn | tripkin: that color scheme you just gave me :) |
| 18:56.46 | tripkin | sure... just a sec... |
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| 19:27.22 | zleap | hi |
| 19:27.28 | zleap | is it possible to install tmate on debian please |
| 19:27.35 | zleap | i am using debian 8 |
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| 19:27.50 | zleap | i have found instructions but these fail to work |
| 19:27.55 | TomTomTosch | ,v tmate |
| 19:27.56 | judd | Package: tmate on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.8.10-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.8.10-2+b1; sid: 1.8.10-2+b1; experimental: 2.2.0-1 |
| 19:28.07 | zleap | ok thanks |
| 19:28.13 | zleap | so how do I install that |
| 19:28.25 | TomTomTosch | !tell zleap about jessie-backports |
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| 19:28.53 | TomTomTosch | zleap: follow the instructions and install it from jessie-backports |
| 19:30.03 | TomTomTosch | zleap: after you add the line to your sources you do apt-get update; apt-get install -t jessie-backports tmate |
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| 19:32.52 | zleap | thank you |
| 19:33.37 | zleap | i am guessing running something like |
| 19:33.39 | zleap | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tmate.io/archive |
| 19:33.48 | zleap | adds items to the sources.list file too |
| 19:34.37 | TomTomTosch | and possibly breaks your system if you add an ubuntu repo. |
| 19:34.37 | missmbob | TomTomTosch: can't make them listen |
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| 19:34.58 | TomTomTosch | x) |
| 19:35.01 | zleap | I found other instructions and trying to google tmate just game up with mate |
| 19:35.09 | zleap | as in the desktop, so I decided to ask here |
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| 19:37.13 | zleap | ok so what file does sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tmate.io/archive modify then |
| 19:37.26 | zleap | i can't see references to ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 19:38.05 | TomTomTosch | i never used that command, but try looking in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 19:38.35 | plasmodu_ | zleap: what's wrong with tmux? |
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| 19:39.28 | zleap | nothing, i am just using tmate so friends can connect to my computer |
| 19:39.34 | zleap | or they prefer to use tmate |
| 19:40.01 | plasmodu_ | what's wrong with ssh and screen? |
| 19:40.11 | zleap | nothing i guess |
| 19:40.16 | plasmodu_ | k.i.s.s |
| 19:40.19 | zleap | i know |
| 19:40.26 | zleap | i am trying to fix this other issue now |
| 19:40.41 | zleap | as the tmate website has no information on installing on debian |
| 19:40.53 | TomTomTosch | what other issue? |
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| 19:41.39 | zleap | adding the ppa stuff |
| 19:41.48 | zleap | but i deleted the fles from /sources.list.d |
| 19:41.51 | zleap | that has fixed it |
| 19:41.58 | zleap | files |
| 19:42.01 | missmbob | well if you'd listen to TomTomTosch ... |
| 19:42.18 | zleap | missmbob: i did that before coming in here |
| 19:42.28 | plasmoduck | zleap: what's your main use for tmate? Is it just so you and your friend can talk? If so there are other solutions. |
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| 19:42.44 | TomTomTosch | just let him use what he want.. geez. |
| 19:43.03 | zleap | usually if there is a problem they will ask me to run tmate in order for them to connect and help |
| 19:43.34 | zleap | i can also see what they are typing |
| 19:43.56 | TomTomTosch | zleap: add-apt-repository apparently adds it to /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ so if it's not there it's gone. |
| 19:44.13 | TomTomTosch | zleap: which is what you want. you don't want ppas in your system. |
| 19:44.19 | zleap | yeah |
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| 19:44.35 | zleap | i will ask here first next time |
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| 19:44.51 | zleap | however usually people want people to try and fix thigns FIRST then ask |
| 19:45.43 | plasmoduck | zleap: making sure they aren't installing any rootkits eh? |
| 19:47.02 | zleap | well they were helping me install ssh keys for git hub, so as those repositories are stored on a shared repository for the tech jam, I don't think they would risk compromising things |
| 19:48.02 | plasmoduck | fair enough |
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| 19:50.48 | Filystyn | HELLO |
| 19:51.01 | Filystyn | Avideo recorder program |
| 19:51.21 | Filystyn | ANYONE?! |
| 19:51.24 | TomTomTosch | havn't enough people complained about you already? |
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| 19:52.35 | TomTomTosch | missmbob: now here's another one :P |
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| 19:57.45 | qx33c | dfsg compliant test message. |
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| 20:00.04 | zleap | any suggestions on how to increase the font size on the tty-console please |
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| 20:00.19 | zleap | i am trying to google, but getting a lot of non debian 8 specific solutions |
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| 20:02.30 | TomTomTosch | is it tty or is it a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal ? |
| 20:02.52 | zleap | tty |
| 20:02.59 | zleap | as i don't need a gui |
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| 20:08.11 | Filystyn | I am Waiting |
| 20:08.23 | Filystyn | a bit faster replays please. |
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| 20:08.50 | zleap | Filystyn: what do you need help with |
| 20:08.53 | digdilem | yes, all you people giving your time and skills freely, speed it up! |
| 20:08.58 | Filystyn | zleap you can write your own terminal using X11 -> xlib |
| 20:09.11 | Filystyn | this will surely let you have bigger fots |
| 20:09.23 | zleap | i don't have x11 installed |
| 20:09.29 | Filystyn | My problem is i need program for video recordin / catching screen |
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| 20:09.33 | Filystyn | zleap you have |
| 20:09.46 | Filystyn | zleap pretty sure you have xlib |
| 20:10.22 | Filystyn | PROGRAM FOR CATCHING /RECORDING SCREEN. |
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| 20:10.28 | zleap | vlc |
| 20:10.32 | Filystyn | catching* |
| 20:10.36 | Filystyn | must catch |
| 20:10.39 | digdilem | zleap, you tried this? https://www.e-rave.nl/change-default-console-font-in-debian |
| 20:10.40 | Filystyn | record window |
| 20:10.42 | TomTomTosch | !ops Filystyn spam |
| 20:10.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: tomtomtosch complains about: Filystyn spam |
| 20:10.44 | OerHeks | Filystyn, so you know all about internals, but cannot find a video program. |
| 20:10.58 | Filystyn | I want a recomanddation |
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| 20:11.14 | zleap | http://infohost.nmt.edu/~kscott/video/ |
| 20:11.28 | HyperBeam | I recommend Windows. |
| 20:12.11 | tinyhippo | When trying to build a .deb from apt-get source exim4, I get an error with pack-configs, stating that it failed, how can I fix this? |
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| 20:12.28 | Filystyn | zleap good I will see into it |
| 20:12.30 | missmbob | tinyhippo: did you apt-get build-dep first? |
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| 20:12.58 | tinyhippo | nope! |
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| 20:13.26 | tinyhippo | missmbob: I have now, which stated nothing to do, and yet I still get the error |
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| 20:14.23 | missmbob | tinyhippo: so you're doing apt-get build-dep exim4 && apt-get source -b exim4? and it fails? paste.debian.net everything |
| 20:15.42 | tinyhippo | missmbob: no, I'm doing apt-get build-dep exim4 && apt-get source exim4, then I edit the EDITME.exim4-daemon-heavy to enable EXPERIMENTAL_PROXY, and then try to re-pack the configs |
| 20:16.00 | missmbob | tinyhippo: dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot ? |
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| 20:17.22 | tinyhippo | missmbob: I'm not that far, I do fakeroot debian/rules unpack-configs, edit the config then try to fakeroot debian/rules pack-configs and it fails. |
| 20:17.42 | missmbob | i don't know how to build it the way you're playing with. *shrug* |
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| 20:18.02 | tinyhippo | missmbob: how would you do what I'm trying to do? |
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| 20:18.18 | missmbob | as i said :P |
| 20:18.39 | tinyhippo | missmbob: so dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot then edit the EDITME.exim4-daemon-heavy configuration? |
| 20:19.17 | missmbob | edit before. then go straight to dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 20:20.03 | tinyhippo | ok |
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| 20:21.49 | tinyhippo | I'll give that a go |
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| 20:23.14 | keneed | buenas |
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| 20:24.06 | missmbob | !es |
| 20:24.06 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
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| 20:25.42 | tortib | I'm using vino to share my gnome desktop and I have a problem. I'm using 4k resolution and it's really really slow, is there anything I can do to speed up the connection aside from lowering the resolution? |
| 20:26.39 | JonathanD | [A/47 |
| 20:27.26 | tinyhippo | it worked, thanks missmbob! |
| 20:27.35 | mappack | Use an ethernet connection if you are using a Wi-Fi connection now. |
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| 20:29.44 | missmbob | tinyhippo: yay |
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| 20:34.34 | jhutchins | tortib: The higher the resolution, the more data has to be exchanged, converted, encrypted, and displayed. |
| 20:34.49 | jhutchins | 4k over VNC is not a good idea. |
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| 20:37.30 | Khudher | hmm, is any one having mouse issues? like freezes and disconnects? |
| 20:37.52 | tortib | jhutchins, hm |
| 20:38.00 | tortib | jhutchins, it's the only 16:9 resolution I can use tho :9 |
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| 20:48.13 | kriskropd | why did my root file system become read only? and how do I make it writable again without rebooting the machine? |
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| 20:49.07 | kriskropd | I thought the disk had filled up, but / still has 4.6GB available |
| 20:49.47 | digdilem | kriskropd, defaults generally tell the bootloader to mount RO when it encounters errors |
| 20:49.47 | epsilon | hardware/disk error, filesystem error... |
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| 20:50.39 | digdilem | odd that you've got a working root mount as RO though |
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| 20:50.58 | kriskropd | digdilem: I didn't just boot the machine, if that is waht you mean - uptime says 67 days |
| 20:51.07 | kriskropd | it's been working fine until I checked it this morning |
| 20:51.48 | digdilem | check dmesg or syslog for logged errors? |
| 20:52.00 | epsilon | anything in last log messages? |
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| 20:52.48 | unborn | is vino vnc working? tortib |
| 20:53.17 | kriskropd | ew, yeah - this has been spamming my dmesg : "EXT4-fs error (device sdf1): __ext4_ext_check_block: bad header/extent in inode #121525964: invalid magic - magic ff, entries 6976, max 64287(0), depth 11252(0)" |
| 20:53.31 | kriskropd | exact same message, same inode, same depth |
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| 20:54.40 | kriskropd | yeah, i see a ton of bad disk messages as i scroll down |
| 20:54.43 | epsilon | check this, smartctl -a /dev/sdf |
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| 20:55.43 | tortib | unborn, yes, it works but it's very slow with 4k res. |
| 20:56.07 | unborn | tortal: how it calls in debian? I mean vino? |
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| 20:56.20 | unborn | tortal: sorry that was for tortib |
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| 20:56.26 | epsilon | why hell you use 4K for VNC oO |
| 20:56.53 | unborn | tortib: well 4k is overkill even for vnc on lan |
| 20:57.24 | kriskropd | good thing we make backups - this disk looks bad - smartctl doesn't say anything bad about the disk health other than old age - but it says there are raw read issues |
| 20:57.45 | kriskropd | ty for help - i think i know what to do now :( |
| 20:57.55 | epsilon | could you post the smart result somewhere? |
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| 20:58.18 | Startrek852 | Hello. |
| 20:58.19 | TomTomTosch | tortib: you can set compression levels with tighvnc. i can imagine the hardware getting to its limits with 4k though. |
| 20:58.37 | epsilon | just curious which disk state is causing ext4 to go RO |
| 20:58.46 | TomTomTosch | * tightvnc that is. |
| 20:59.13 | Startrek852 | Should I use tasksel or apt to install a desktop? |
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| 21:00.03 | missmbob | Startrek852: there's no difference |
| 21:00.07 | epsilon | Startrek852: tasksel if you have no desktop yet, it will take care of it |
| 21:00.32 | epsilon | apt if you know which packages to install |
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| 21:02.01 | TomTomTosch | tasksel just installs the task-[gnome|kde|xfce|mate|lxde|cinnamon]-desktop meta package. |
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| 21:06.58 | Startrek852 | OK, Thanks. |
| 21:07.16 | Startrek852 | ðð |
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| 21:17.47 | trumee | In what package can i find vncconfig? |
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| 21:18.35 | TomTomTosch | there is no such file. what are you trying to do? |
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| 21:19.34 | missmbob | i have to assume he means vnc4config. anyway that's in /usr/bin/ from package vnc4server |
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| 21:23.20 | trumee | TomTomTosch, i want to copy/paste into vnc session |
| 21:23.37 | trumee | Copy/Paste doesnt work for me in vnc |
| 21:23.53 | trumee | It seems i need vncconfig, http://superuser.com/questions/46487/vnc-client-for-windows-with-copy-paste |
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| 21:24.30 | trumee | My vncserver is running on debian and client is on gentoo |
| 21:25.20 | missmbob | yep i'm right |
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| 21:27.24 | trumee | missmbob, so i need vnc4config? |
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| 21:28.00 | missmbob | with the little to no info you gave that's my best guess |
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| 21:30.42 | trumee | missmbob, thanks, it has that package |
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| 23:34.32 | sideup66 | hey guys, im trying to setup apcupsd for my home server with a new backups be750g, and am looking at the included documentation from the install and debians official guide, but nothing is matching up and im feeling mildly overwhelmed with info, anyone around to help make sense of this |
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