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| 00:01.53 | slbtc | zyley: no nothing |
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| 00:02.27 | reifange | hi |
| 00:02.41 | reifange | can |
| 00:03.04 | jim | opens a can |
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| 00:03.59 | reifange | so |
| 00:04.03 | slbtc | zyley: I even tried out HDAJackRetask and overridden headphones |
| 00:04.11 | slbtc | still no sound from headphone |
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| 00:07.24 | bazhang | slbtc, what about with pavucontrol and padevchooser |
| 00:08.17 | slbtc | padevchooser? |
| 00:08.31 | jim | reifange, if you have a question, feel free to ask |
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| 00:09.19 | bazhang | slbtc, yes, thats the correct package name |
| 00:09.31 | bazhang | pulse audio device chooser |
| 00:09.36 | reifange | thanks. |
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| 00:10.15 | slbtc | bazhang: Ok let me try that |
| 00:10.55 | slbtc | unable to locate package padevchooser |
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| 00:11.09 | bazhang | I hope you check for not muted in alsamixer |
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| 00:11.40 | slbtc | bazhang: it's unmuted but there's no sound bar to indicate that it's working like everything else is at 100 |
| 00:11.44 | bazhang | ,v pavucontrol |
| 00:11.44 | slbtc | the headphones are 00 |
| 00:11.45 | judd | Package: pavucontrol on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.9-1; wheezy: 1.0-1; jessie: 2.0-3; stretch: 3.0-3+b2; sid: 3.0-3+b2 |
| 00:12.10 | bazhang | set PCM to 80 slbtc |
| 00:12.11 | slbtc | no option to control the volume in alsamixer |
| 00:12.24 | slbtc | PCM Is at 100 |
| 00:12.39 | bazhang | set it to 80 |
| 00:12.56 | slbtc | k did that |
| 00:13.12 | slbtc | master is muted |
| 00:13.29 | bazhang | unmute it |
| 00:13.33 | slbtc | that might be from the HDAJackRetask thing I used. |
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| 00:14.07 | slbtc | Surround and center are at 100 as well |
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| 00:14.38 | slbtc | and I unmuted the master sound |
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| 00:17.33 | bazhang | PCM is the one you dont want a 100 |
| 00:17.51 | bazhang | .v paprefs |
| 00:17.58 | bazhang | augh |
| 00:18.09 | bazhang | ,v paprefs |
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| 00:18.10 | judd | Package: paprefs on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.9-2; jessie: 0.9.10-1; wheezy: 0.9.10-1; stretch: 0.9.10-2; sid: 0.9.10-2 |
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| 00:18.35 | Guest34406 | sry fail |
| 00:18.42 | slbtc | bazhang: ok well it's at 80 headphones still 00 no way to change it but it's active |
| 00:19.05 | Wally | Are there any plans to make audio in debian more.. awesome |
| 00:19.27 | bazhang | slbtc, did you try with pavuctonrl yet |
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| 00:19.32 | bazhang | pavucontrol |
| 00:19.34 | slbtc | how about more compatible with dell desktops? >.> |
| 00:19.51 | slbtc | bazhang: no option for headphones in pavucontrol |
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| 00:20.05 | bazhang | Wally, thats a feature of your soundcard, not debian |
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| 00:20.30 | bazhang | what soundcard do you have Wally |
| 00:20.33 | Wally | I mean like a proper gui front end to customize audio crap and auto detection of devices. |
| 00:20.48 | Wally | Like any other sane os |
| 00:21.02 | jmcnaught | slbtc: i have sometimes found soundcards that work on Linux, but have some strangely named channel muted that you can unmute in alsamixer. Sometimes the channel is just an on/off option that you can toggle |
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| 00:21.06 | bazhang | Wally, please answer my question |
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| 00:21.17 | Wally | IDGAF. It's not my question |
| 00:21.29 | slbtc | bazhang: for output the only option is the built-in audio. configuration says "no sound cards to configure" |
| 00:21.53 | bazhang | Wally, you want more awesome, tell us the sound card for the awesome-inization |
| 00:22.11 | Wally | I'm not running debian ATM. |
| 00:22.40 | jmcnaught | sound works out of the box for me on almost every computer, and pulseaudio does have a decent gui with pavucontrol or gnome's sound preferences |
| 00:23.01 | bazhang | Wally, you could still tell us the actual sound card, there are some 'awesome, just like windows, GUI THINGYs out there |
| 00:23.20 | Wally | I don't use Windows either.. |
| 00:23.31 | Wally | Pretty sure it's just a realtek |
| 00:23.33 | bazhang | Wally, why are you here at all |
| 00:23.44 | Wally | because I have a debian Mac Mini at home.. |
| 00:23.55 | Wally | Why are you such an angry little man? |
| 00:23.58 | slbtc | I stay away from windows like the plague same with mac OSX and ubuntu |
| 00:24.05 | Wally | Good for you |
| 00:24.13 | bazhang | Wally, did you want a link to the gui thingy or not |
| 00:24.29 | Wally | oh you were trying to give advise.. bazhang sorry. |
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| 00:24.34 | Wally | I don't really need a GUI :) |
| 00:24.43 | bazhang | whoa what angry little man |
| 00:24.45 | Wally | The Mini doesn't actually need sound at all but please fire it at me! |
| 00:24.49 | bazhang | thast uncalled for |
| 00:24.52 | Wally | lol |
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| 00:25.05 | Wally | passes bazhang a lemon lime and bitters |
| 00:25.06 | Wally | phrasing. |
| 00:25.28 | Greek0 | packaging question: how do I include a setuid-root binary in a package when building with fakeroot? |
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| 00:25.37 | Vainglory | âWally: So what specifically did you want to ask? |
| 00:25.48 | Wally | Vainglory I didn't want to ask anything. |
| 00:25.59 | Wally | I just lurk here usually |
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| 00:26.08 | bazhang | here to rant it looks like |
| 00:26.15 | Wally | no m8 |
| 00:26.25 | Wally | i'm here to learn and offer some advice. |
| 00:26.28 | sm00th | wally I use kde for that most de's have a gui for that stuff. |
| 00:26.38 | Wally | Yeah I haven't really looked at KDE for a while. |
| 00:26.45 | Wally | I mostly use XFCE and mate. |
| 00:26.59 | sm00th | oh ya on xfce you might have to install it yourself |
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| 00:27.02 | Wally | Please don't take what I said the wrong way. I know I could make something if I need to do stuff. |
| 00:27.10 | Wally | I don't need audio on the Mini, it's purely a serer |
| 00:27.13 | Wally | *server |
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| 00:28.25 | glick | hi, can anyone recommend a good VPN provider |
| 00:28.26 | glick | ? |
| 00:28.38 | glick | for linux and mac |
| 00:28.40 | Wally | glick as we said in #MaOSX go to #networking please. |
| 00:28.44 | Wally | #macosx* |
| 00:28.52 | glick | damn it! lol |
| 00:28.57 | glick | okay thanks |
| 00:28.59 | sm00th | glick, the one that sponsors freenode |
| 00:29.07 | Vainglory | glick: PrivateInternetAccess |
| 00:29.11 | sm00th | ya that one |
| 00:29.20 | glick | that one only has 3000IP addresses |
| 00:29.21 | sm00th | top notch |
| 00:29.30 | Vainglory | glick: why would it matter? |
| 00:29.32 | sm00th | well then i guess it depends whats important to you |
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| 00:29.57 | glick | cause thats can be sifted through real quick |
| 00:30.02 | Wally | glares at iWaldo |
| 00:30.16 | sypher | glick: Then build your own. |
| 00:30.26 | glick | i cant join networking |
| 00:30.49 | glick | no sypher |
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| 00:31.01 | sm00th | seems lik you know all there is to know about vpns, we should be asking you for advice lol |
| 00:31.09 | missmbob | it's ##networking. and you probably need a registered nick. /msg nickserv help |
| 00:31.15 | glick | ahhh |
| 00:31.17 | glick | thanks |
| 00:31.29 | sypher | glick: Exactly. Don't ask for people's recommendations and then nay-say them based on criteria that you think you need that you haven't communicated. If you're that smart, build your own. |
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| 00:31.50 | glick | ok sypher thanks |
| 00:32.22 | sm00th | how many servers should a vpn have? and why does it matter? |
| 00:33.40 | Vainglory | coughs sounds sketchy coughs |
| 00:34.35 | sypher | Probably. |
| 00:35.28 | sm00th | Vainglory, your name reminds me of company flow - Legends |
| 00:35.45 | Vainglory | sm00th: i'm not sure what that means |
| 00:36.00 | sm00th | Vainglorious |
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| 00:36.28 | sm00th | Denomination of commonly monstrous Caution blow the unit's sensation |
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| 00:37.01 | sm00th | Vainglory, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PfeyoGaDR8 |
| 00:37.19 | sm00th | http://genius.com/791977 |
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| 00:39.40 | sm00th | eh alot of those lyrics are wrong |
| 00:39.55 | themill | offtopic much? |
| 00:40.00 | sm00th | haha |
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| 01:00.46 | awal1_ | slbtc, pasystray is really util |
| 01:01.38 | awal1_ | when I plug external usb audio headsets ... pavucontrol dont list them, but pasystray yes |
| 01:02.27 | awal1_ | right clic in the systray icon and I'm able to select default device, sources and sink |
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| 01:03.14 | Jaggz | My netinst usb Kris rebooting when i select a bit option |
| 01:03.17 | Jaggz | Keeps |
| 01:04.07 | awal1_ | padevchooser is no longuer available in stretch/sid |
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| 01:04.39 | awal1_ | I think padevchooser function are now included in pasystray |
| 01:05.48 | awal1_ | sound is a serious problem sometimes and hard to solve it |
| 01:05.56 | Jaggz | I've tried fb=false vga=normal acpi=off |
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| 01:06.32 | thenewone1 | Hi guys |
| 01:06.35 | thenewone1 | i'm runing debian8 |
| 01:06.42 | thenewone1 | why i can't find wayland in the repo ? |
| 01:08.00 | Jaggz | Awal |
| 01:08.25 | Jaggz | awal1_ have you tried the alsa sync stuff? |
| 01:08.30 | Jaggz | http://askubuntu.com/questions/687062/usb-audio-interface-not-showing-device-in-list-for-pulseaudio |
| 01:08.47 | missmbob | thenewone1: you're probably looking for weston. and it sucks right now. i wouldn't use it |
| 01:08.52 | Jaggz | Not the same typee of device, but maybe it helps |
| 01:09.40 | thenewone1 | missmbob, ok we just get enough from xorg because it's oldddddddd so much :) |
| 01:09.49 | awal1_ | Jaggz, will check that, ok |
| 01:10.00 | Jaggz | Deal! |
| 01:10.04 | thenewone1 | ok i found xwayland |
| 01:10.07 | thenewone1 | not wayland :) |
| 01:10.22 | awal1_ | right now I have no problems, but just sometimes when the external audio stuff are usb |
| 01:10.42 | awal1_ | usb connector imean, or i dont know how it's called |
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| 01:21.09 | grondilu | anyone using privoxy here? Can I ask for help about it? |
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| 01:28.49 | Sabotender | greetings, in debian, the best way to completely clone a drive from one to another is the dd command, yes? |
| 01:31.32 | rgwu | To copy raw bytes, yes. To copy files between differing filesystems, rsync is your friend. |
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| 01:32.02 | rjsalts | Sabotender: there are also tools that will copy drives/partitions that are more efficient than dd |
| 01:32.31 | Sabotender | meh, just looking for the quick & dirty method |
| 01:33.07 | rjsalts | Sabotender: e.g. dd will spend time copying all the 0s, there are some backup utilities which compress that. dd is pretty quick and dirty and has much less setup than said tools though |
| 01:33.12 | Sabotender | im cloning a small drive (30gb) to a larger one (120GB) because 30gb is ridiculously small |
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| 01:33.25 | Sabotender | i can expand the partition later |
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| 01:33.32 | missmbob | !clonezilla |
| 01:33.33 | dpkg | Clonezilla Live is a live CD based on Debian, providing disk/partition cloning functionality similar to Symantec Ghost. Basically a front-end to <partimage>, <partclone>, <ntfsclone>, sfdisk and others. http://www.clonezilla.org/ See also <based on Debian>. |
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| 01:33.51 | rgwu | You should create the filesystem and rsync the files over. |
| 01:34.02 | rgwu | Especially if you don't care about the time. |
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| 01:34.38 | iflema | cp -a |
| 01:35.02 | k_sze[work] | ldconfig is idempotent, right? |
| 01:35.05 | missmbob | cp is probably the worst method possible |
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| 01:35.18 | ryouma | cp is as fast as rsync the first time, i think |
| 01:35.21 | rgwu | rsync can at least continue in case of power failure or something like that. |
| 01:35.25 | k_sze[work] | I can run it many times and the result would be the same? |
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| 01:35.52 | ryouma | if rsync |
| 01:36.03 | ryouma | oh oops you asked about ldconfig |
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| 01:42.08 | iflema | missmbob: oh.. i left out the v :P |
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| 01:51.09 | TomTomTosch | only the default jessie, updates, security and the tor repo afaik. |
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| 02:26.01 | Admins | How to take dpkg offline? |
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| 02:26.59 | missmbob | admins dondelelcaro owns dpkg bot |
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| 02:58.30 | Jaggz | I can't get ubuntu or debian install's to get further than a split second after hitting enter at a boot menu option |
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| 03:00.19 | jmcnaught | Jaggz: which debian iso did you try, what is the file name or URL? how did you copy it to a boot device, what command did you use? |
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| 03:00.48 | jmcnaught | and have you tried a different USB stick? |
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| 03:03.00 | Jaggz | I tried stable x64 and testing i386 |
| 03:03.13 | Jaggz | tried a 16gb stick and just now an 8gb |
| 03:03.31 | Jaggz | actually wait, I didn't try the 8gb yet (had to transfer images off) |
| 03:03.42 | Jaggz | it was from a family member with photos and vids on it :) |
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| 03:04.59 | Jaggz | gonna try pulling the video card.. |
| 03:05.18 | Jaggz | cept I'll need to run a vga->dvi cable then.. but no biggie |
| 03:05.41 | Jaggz | so much time! |
| 03:05.42 | Jaggz | :) |
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| 03:12.53 | blubee | hi guys, would compiling a newer version of the linux kernel 4.7 cause compatibility issues with jessie? |
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| 03:46.05 | AkQ | hi ! i installed Debian on my OVH server 3 days ago with basic LAMP and few other minor packages - but now OVH manager says that the disk space is running out (24,95gb / 25gb used) :S how can i detect what is taking space |
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| 03:46.06 | TomTomTosch | blubee: there is always the 4.6 kernel in jessie-backports. a little less unpredictable. |
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| 03:47.21 | cq1 | Has anyone else noticed that 4.6 kernel changes to get_user_pages totally break installing CUDA and the nvidia-driver package? Does anyone know any workaround? |
| 03:47.23 | TomTomTosch | AkQ: /var/log is a good place to start. sometimes log files like to fill up. |
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| 03:48.38 | AkQ | TomTomTosch: my /var/log is taking 672k so it's not that right? |
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| 03:49.52 | AkQ | i checked with df -h and it says this: https://puu.sh/qo0q1/21efe8f1ba.png |
| 03:50.39 | AkQ | it makes me think that something is wrong - either my server is already compromised (!) or OVH manager is somehow wrong .. how is that even possible, no idea :o |
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| 03:58.36 | _hwaseo | i just installed jessie with xfce4 and i was wondering if anyone knows how to get pcmanfm to recognize my android phone |
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| 04:00.04 | rjsalts | AkQ: how is OVH monitoring the server? ssh? snmp? something else? maybe they're getting the data from the wrong source, or are caching data from some bogus response |
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| 04:02.58 | AkQ | rjsalts: no idea :o |
| 04:03.32 | sypher | OVH is one of the worst hosting providers on Earth. |
| 04:03.39 | AkQ | it's cheap x) |
| 04:03.49 | sypher | AkQ: You get LESS than you pay for with them. |
| 04:04.32 | rjsalts | I've had much worse hosting providers than ovh |
| 04:04.37 | AkQ | sypher: well you got better option? :/ i couldn't find any cheap VPS with *fasT* ssd and good single core performance - at least they offer nvme ssd and 3,1ghz cpu with 9,90e/m |
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| 04:09.45 | sypher | rjsalts: I have yet to find something worse than OVH. Then again, I don't try to look. |
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| 04:10.13 | AkQ | sypher so where is better? |
| 04:10.16 | sypher | AkQ: What are your actual needs? |
| 04:10.48 | AkQ | single core speed is my top priority and also disk speed |
| 04:10.59 | sypher | AkQ: Okay, clarifying. What are you doing with it? |
| 04:11.07 | AkQ | mmorpg-server |
| 04:12.20 | AkQ | for these requirements, the ovh cloud vps looked like the perfect solution - ofc it won't be but a temporary, the server will grow and i will have to move on a dedicated game-server on some point |
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| 04:25.26 | Ori_B | Hey, I |
| 04:25.34 | Ori_B | ...am failing at typing. |
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| 04:26.32 | Ori_B | I am also having trouble with opendkim under systemd. |
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| 04:26.56 | Ori_B | http://pastebin.com/xkE8XD5Y |
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| 04:27.45 | Ori_B | it looks like it's trying to be run with the '-P' option with no parameter, which is supposed to take a pidfile parameter. |
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| 04:29.00 | Ori_B | now, I can edit that file, but then systemd complains about the file having changed on disk, and gives me a command that clobbers it. |
| 04:29.04 | Ori_B | how do I go about fixing the problem? |
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| 04:55.35 | Ori_B | ok, had to reboot. |
| 04:55.54 | Ori_B | so... should I repost the question? |
| 04:57.39 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 04:58.31 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: i use opendkim, but it has an init script, not a systemd service unit on jessie as far as i can tell |
| 04:58.56 | Ori_B | jmcnaught: testing. |
| 04:59.15 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: running a mail server on testing sounds like a bad idea |
| 04:59.48 | Ori_B | this is the first problem I've had in about a decade of doing it. |
| 05:00.04 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792458 this is marked as fixed, but makes me think that you have some sort of bad parameter in the startup command for opendkim |
| 05:00.05 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/792458 in opendkim (closed): «opendkim init script failed on start»; severity: important; opened: 2015-07-14; last modified: 2016-07-05. |
| 05:00.28 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: testing is usually the last to get security updates, and stuff changes and breaks in it sometimes |
| 05:01.01 | Ori_B | yes, it looks similar |
| 05:01.29 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: oh i see, the fixed package looks like it's still in experimental |
| 05:01.35 | jmcnaught | ,v opendkim |
| 05:01.36 | judd | Package: opendkim on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.1+dfsg-1; squeeze-backports: 2.6.8-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.6.8-4; jessie: 2.9.2-2; sid: 2.10.3-5; stretch: 2.10.3-5; experimental: 2.11.0~alpha-6 |
| 05:02.16 | Ori_B | I looked at /etc/default/opendkim, but it doesn't seem to have a comment at the end of it :/ |
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| 05:03.02 | jmcnaught | what about the order that parameters are in? |
| 05:04.15 | Ori_B | where? |
| 05:05.15 | Ori_B | DAEMON_OPTS="-x /etc/opendkim.conf -u $USER -P $PIDFILE $DAEMON_OPTS" |
| 05:05.30 | Ori_B | somehow, when it gets through to systemd, the '$PIDFILE' seems to not make it through. |
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| 05:06.22 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: did you see messages #35 and #42 in that bug? |
| 05:07.12 | Ori_B | so, for #35, when I try to remove it by hand, systemd complains that the file has changed and forces me to edit it again. |
| 05:07.19 | Ori_B | [will repro and paste output, give me a second.] |
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| 05:08.12 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: did you run "systemctl daemon-reload" after changing the service unit? |
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| 05:10.51 | Ori_B | by "service unit", you mean /lib/systemd/system/opendkim.service? |
| 05:11.03 | jmcnaught | yes |
| 05:11.43 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: note that in #42 the maintainer is moving the -p argument to the front, not removing it |
| 05:12.28 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: oh also you don't want to edit /lib/systemd/system/opendkim.service, copy it to /etc/systemd/systemd/ and makes changes to that file |
| 05:13.07 | Ori_B | so, whatever starting the service does seems to regenerate the bogus file. |
| 05:13.25 | Ori_B | ah, just noticed |
| 05:13.29 | Ori_B | ExecStartPre=-/bin/sh /lib/opendkim/opendkim.service.generate |
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| 05:14.17 | Ori_B | which probably.. yep. it's buggy. |
| 05:14.28 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: i'm not using opendkim on any testing systems so i'm not quite sure how the systemd units work, like i said on jessie it's still an LSB init script |
| 05:14.31 | jmcnaught | but it works |
| 05:14.59 | Ori_B | opendkim.service.generate checks /etc/default/opendkim |
| 05:15.14 | Ori_B | if that exists, it skips setting the defaults for things like RUNDIR, PIDFILE, ... |
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| 05:15.57 | Ori_B | but /etc/defaults only sets the process. |
| 05:16.35 | Ori_B | it should probably set them, and then source /etc/defaults/opendkim to override them, not sure. |
| 05:16.47 | Ori_B | either way, easy fix; set everything in /etc/defaults. |
| 05:17.14 | Ori_B | that fixed it. |
| 05:17.15 | Ori_B | thanks. |
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| 05:40.06 | jmcnaught | Ori_B: oh i didn't notice but it looks like the version in unstable was fixed too. opendkim 2.10.3-5 |
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| 05:42.25 | Ori_B | jmcnaught: ah, in any case, I've got a workaround for now. :) |
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| 05:43.28 | gonano | i'm going to install debian 8.5, how is it working? |
| 05:44.15 | ransur0t | gonano: very broad question ... so, what hardware will you be installing upon? |
| 05:45.29 | gonano | i know, but my english is not too expresive :D |
| 05:46.12 | gonano | It's a notebook with 2Gb RAM 2.2GHz, and thats all |
| 05:46.23 | gonano | she has 6 years now |
| 05:46.55 | ransur0t | it'll run fine, biggest consideration will be the desktop you choose ... |
| 05:47.05 | anonnumberanon | apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install Firefox ESR. Why? I'm running Iceweasel 38.7.1 |
| 05:47.29 | ransur0t | jessie made the switch to Firefox a few months back .... |
| 05:47.30 | anonnumberanon | Also this seems to show the browser is a strainer https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox-esr/ |
| 05:47.49 | jmcnaught | anonnumberanon: https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3600 |
| 05:47.54 | gonano | thank you |
| 05:48.00 | ransur0t | yw |
| 05:48.39 | gonano | yeah, i was using debian 8.0 with xfce and it accomplished the expectations |
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| 05:49.26 | gonano | but while i was tocuhing some files, the graphic interface crashed and didn't know how to solve it |
| 05:50.21 | ransur0t | have you tried a apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 05:50.39 | gonano | ehemmm |
| 05:50.41 | gonano | me? |
| 05:50.45 | ransur0t | yes |
| 05:50.57 | anonnumberanon | "may lead to the execution of arbitrary code" in the context of a browser, how dangerous to the OS? |
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| 05:51.47 | gonano | i don't know how to connect to WiFi from the terminal |
| 05:51.54 | gonano | I'll probe |
| 05:52.15 | jmcnaught | gonano: try nmtui |
| 05:52.43 | ransur0t | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 05:52.51 | gonano | alright |
| 05:53.19 | gonano | i don't remember the problem, but i touched a very sensible file |
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| 05:53.43 | ransur0t | have you tried a virus scan with clamav? |
| 05:54.17 | gonano | yes, nothing there |
| 05:54.42 | gonano | one of these days i'll let you know how your advices worked |
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| 05:57.16 | jmcnaught | gonano: what was the file that you modified? |
| 05:57.35 | gonano | I don't remember hermano |
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| 05:58.15 | jmcnaught | gonano: is Debian installed on the computer but it has a problem starting? |
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| 05:59.20 | gonano | it is installed, but when it starts there is no graphics at all, just the login from a tty |
| 05:59.23 | jmcnaught | anonnumberanon: it could be if combined with a privilege escalation exploit. also consider that the browser runs as your regular user that owns all your files |
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| 06:00.10 | jmcnaught | gonano: "systemctl status display-manager.service" any clues there? |
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| 06:00.56 | mi11k1 | is there a DVD image x86 that I can just copy to a SD card? |
| 06:01.45 | mi11k1 | sorry I didn't mean DVD |
| 06:01.48 | anonnumberanon | mi11k1's question brings back some desperate memories |
| 06:01.53 | mi11k1 | or do you like just installed to get the card and then just DD to make an image for future use |
| 06:02.19 | gonano | don't know jmcnaught |
| 06:02.28 | gonano | i'll let you know |
| 06:02.39 | jmcnaught | mi11k1: what are you trying to install Debian on? |
| 06:02.49 | gonano | i'm a fan of linux, but some things exceed my knowledges |
| 06:03.11 | jmcnaught | gonano: that checks the status of your display manager, the program that provides a graphical login |
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| 06:03.20 | mi11k1 | I just have a single core Athlon and I just need to use it as a server temporarily |
| 06:03.25 | gonano | sorry for my english |
| 06:03.40 | gonano | ok |
| 06:03.44 | mi11k1 | it has Debian on it now, but I need to run it off of fresh SD card |
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| 06:04.18 | jmcnaught | mi11k1: are you planning on booting the installer from the SD card, or installing Debian onto the SD card? |
| 06:04.26 | mi11k1 | I don't want to make any predictions or anything, it runs off an SD card, but I don't have a copy of that image I was just wondering if I could if there's an image exist that I can just DD it to a card and boot |
| 06:04.49 | mi11k1 | partitions* |
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| 06:05.25 | mi11k1 | yeah, I need to run it off an SD card or USB |
| 06:05.37 | mi11k1 | just hoping I can skip the install |
| 06:06.08 | jmcnaught | mi11k1: if you cannot make an image of what's running now and use that, you should run debootstrap or the installer and install Debian to the new boot device |
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| 06:06.21 | mi11k1 | there's a deviant it's true I tried one time maybe bunson |
| 06:06.37 | mi11k1 | debian* |
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| 06:08.00 | mi11k1 | jmcnaught: I've never done that |
| 06:08.15 | jmcnaught | mi11k1: you've never run the debian installer? |
| 06:08.30 | mi11k1 | maybe it's a good time to learn, no make an image |
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| 06:08.48 | jmcnaught | mi11k1: fortunately there's an excellent install manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 06:09.18 | mi11k1 | I'm pretty new, I'm pretty decent, a lot of stuff tried yet |
| 06:09.27 | jmcnaught | gonano: if you want people to look at the output of commands that they've suggested you can use https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 06:09.52 | jmcnaught | gonano: in your IRC client do "/msg dpkg pastebinit" for a way to paste from the command line |
| 06:10.19 | gonano | thank you so much! |
| 06:10.23 | jmcnaught | gonano: you could for example put /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the paste site with pastebinit |
| 06:10.29 | gonano | i was going to format everything |
| 06:10.48 | mi11k1 | windows style format |
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| 06:11.13 | mi11k1 | a: your c: and del your .. |
| 06:11.35 | mi11k1 | then run 15 hours of upgrades |
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| 06:12.08 | gonano | it's just a saying |
| 06:12.25 | gonano | i was going to remove everything because my partitions are a mess |
| 06:12.42 | mi11k1 | well just make sure you have at least half a screen of toolbars in your browser |
| 06:12.51 | gonano | doing a bootable usb |
| 06:13.10 | jim_carry | my lanuage fonts are not displayable well in chromium. Can anyone help me? |
| 06:13.38 | mi11k1 | change your fonts |
| 06:14.04 | jim_carry | doesn't work |
| 06:14.06 | gonano | why? millkl |
| 06:14.12 | mi11k1 | or learn a new language |
| 06:14.23 | mi11k1 | I dunno I'm just being a jerk |
| 06:14.28 | mi11k1 | sorry |
| 06:14.46 | jim_carry | mi11k1: okay jerk |
| 06:14.48 | mi11k1 | I'll go into Ubuntu to be a jerk |
| 06:15.22 | mi11k1 | sorry Jim carry what language is your preference? |
| 06:15.44 | jim_carry | Punjabi |
| 06:16.05 | mi11k1 | your system is default punjabi? |
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| 06:16.33 | jim_carry | No english I only open some punjabi websites, rest all my work in english |
| 06:16.34 | mi11k1 | and just chromium isn't rendering the fonts? |
| 06:16.37 | jim | hmm? |
| 06:16.54 | Wally | You're missing some rendering system I reckon, Unicode? |
| 06:16.54 | mi11k1 | just use translate maybe ? |
| 06:16.56 | jim_carry | I open websites only in chromium |
| 06:17.14 | mi11k1 | what's one of the sites ? |
| 06:17.22 | jmcnaught | jim_carry: do you have fonts-guru installed? |
| 06:17.41 | jim_carry | jmcnaught: Where should I install, in chromium? |
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| 06:18.00 | jmcnaught | jim_carry: it is a Debian package that you can install with apt-get |
| 06:18.05 | mi11k1 | I have terminator I never resolved with fonts screwing up |
| 06:18.09 | jim_carry | I am on arch :P |
| 06:18.11 | mi11k1 | no apt |
| 06:18.18 | Wally | So why are you asking here? |
| 06:18.19 | mi11k1 | search apt |
| 06:18.24 | mi11k1 | haha |
| 06:18.30 | jim_carry | Wally: No one helping me thats why |
| 06:18.35 | mi11k1 | oh shit |
| 06:18.40 | jim_carry | But its linux issue |
| 06:18.45 | mi11k1 | just translate the page |
| 06:18.46 | Wally | Kinda expected.. |
| 06:18.47 | Wally | lol |
| 06:18.48 | jmcnaught | jim_carry: try asking in the arch channel, or ##linux |
| 06:18.56 | Wally | It's not really a good solution though mi11k1 |
| 06:19.05 | Wally | jim_carry have you added punjabi to Chromium? |
| 06:19.15 | Wally | https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/173424?hl=en |
| 06:19.16 | jim_carry | I have asked on arch channel. |
| 06:19.31 | jim_carry | In system I have installed punjabi fonts but they not displayed well |
| 06:19.34 | Wally | You need to explicitally add languages IMHO |
| 06:19.37 | jim_carry | jmcnaught: mi11k1 is jerk |
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| 06:19.55 | Wally | Could be graphics drivers? |
| 06:20.04 | jmcnaught | jim_carry: this channel is only for Debian. On Debian there is a fonts-guru package that you could install. You'll need to be patient and wait for an answer in #arch |
| 06:20.05 | mi11k1 | I'm not being a jerk anymore |
| 06:20.21 | gonano | ajjjjaa |
| 06:20.25 | gonano | stop please |
| 06:20.27 | Wally | perhaps yeah ask in ##linux :) |
| 06:20.27 | mi11k1 | yah I had to turn off advances setting about using acceleration |
| 06:20.30 | jim_carry | It's been 2 days I don't get solution |
| 06:20.38 | mi11k1 | what's that a dress |
| 06:20.40 | Wally | We understand you're frustrated aye. |
| 06:20.58 | mi11k1 | haha what is that address you put into the bar for all those hidden Futures and chromium? |
| 06:21.13 | Wally | about::plugins isn't it? |
| 06:21.28 | Wally | I dunno. I use Safari. |
| 06:21.30 | mi11k1 | I only checked it out once I've never actually changed anything, but there's tons of stuff in there |
| 06:21.53 | jim_carry | help me |
| 06:22.00 | Wally | ... |
| 06:22.04 | Wally | not with that attitude |
| 06:22.07 | mi11k1 | what's one of the urls |
| 06:22.10 | Wally | unless you're going to pay me :P |
| 06:22.12 | jmcnaught | jim_carry: you're welcome to give Debian a try |
| 06:22.16 | jim_carry | Wally: I can pay you bro |
| 06:22.18 | jmcnaught | !ot |
| 06:22.18 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 06:22.40 | jim | jim_carry, only a little as far as I can tell, and he's trying to be cool now... just curious... do you have enough free (unpartitioned) disk space if you wanted to try debian? |
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| 06:22.56 | mi11k1 | run docket or a vm |
| 06:23.07 | jim_carry | I am on petaboot system |
| 06:23.11 | mi11k1 | docker * |
| 06:23.12 | jim_carry | pentaboot |
| 06:23.16 | Wally | why? |
| 06:23.25 | jim | oh, 5 oses? |
| 06:23.29 | jim_carry | yesh |
| 06:23.35 | Wally | crazy lol |
| 06:23.45 | jim_carry | but arch is my main |
| 06:23.49 | jim_carry | I am just learning stuff |
| 06:23.58 | Wally | likewise :) |
| 06:24.05 | jim | I see, because you were curious |
| 06:24.14 | Wally | What OS's are you running other than Arch? :) |
| 06:24.27 | jim_carry | debian ubuntu fedora centos |
| 06:24.39 | Wally | ah! |
| 06:24.42 | jim | ohh, so you -do- run debian... |
| 06:24.58 | Wally | Hey it's not a crime to want to run other OS's |
| 06:25.20 | mi11k1 | can you make a profile for chromium that's punjabi? |
| 06:25.38 | Wally | does Chromium work with punjabi on other OS's |
| 06:25.49 | slax0r | 5? only reason I'm dual booting is because I can't run the games I play on linux |
| 06:25.53 | jim_carry | yeah I've tried on mac |
| 06:25.55 | mi11k1 | what desktop environment are you using? |
| 06:25.56 | slax0r | I asume you're not trying to do that |
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| 06:25.59 | slax0r | so why not VM? |
| 06:26.03 | Wally | Other than MacOS. |
| 06:26.17 | jim | of course not... and, you could try to install the punjabi stuff on debian and find out how here (you don't have to do that now) |
| 06:26.33 | Wally | Does it work in other browsers? |
| 06:26.37 | Wally | Try firefox? |
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| 06:26.48 | jim_carry | I don't like firefox. |
| 06:26.52 | mi11k1 | have you ever tried virtualbox? |
| 06:26.54 | Wally | .. Just try it. |
| 06:26.58 | jim_carry | yaeh mi11k1 |
| 06:27.01 | Wally | It'll rule out issues with chromium |
| 06:27.15 | mi11k1 | try chrome |
| 06:27.17 | jim_carry | I have /home shared between all installed distros |
| 06:27.27 | jim_carry | I mainly use arch |
| 06:27.33 | Wally | bbl |
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| 06:27.44 | mi11k1 | try running chromium in app mode |
| 06:27.55 | jim | potentially, you could install it, try it, see if the issues are present in firefox, and then remove it if you want |
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| 06:28.11 | mi11k1 | chromium --app=http....... |
| 06:28.51 | jim_carry | jim: firefox would work because there is punjabi language pack for firefox |
| 06:28.58 | jmcnaught | perhaps people interested in helping jim_carry with their Arch issue could move the discussion to #archlinux |
| 06:29.14 | jim_carry | jmcnaught: why |
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| 06:29.23 | jim_carry | racism |
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| 06:29.43 | mi11k1 | same reason why you don't go to the hospital if you're hungry |
| 06:29.44 | jim | no, distism :) and they have that right |
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| 06:30.04 | mi11k1 | or are you go to the dentist if your house is on fire |
| 06:30.05 | jmcnaught | jim_carry: because this is not a Debian issue. Chromium shows Punjabi fonts just fine on my system. Go ask the people using Arch how to fix the problem on Arch |
| 06:30.05 | jim_carry | mi11k1: You need something call you momma |
| 06:30.31 | jim_carry | what will harm you if you would help me jmcnaught |
| 06:30.41 | jim_carry | we are learning linux |
| 06:30.45 | mi11k1 | we've already been helping you, and there's like 5 people helping you and it's not going anywhere |
| 06:30.57 | mi11k1 | what is there for you know Channel 4 chromium there has to be |
| 06:31.04 | jim | jim_carry, come on now, don't play the hostility card... anyway. do you want to boot debian and try it while you're here? |
| 06:31.15 | mi11k1 | chromium freenode* |
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| 06:31.27 | jim_carry | I don't have hostility card jim |
| 06:31.38 | jim_carry | yeah I will try debian it is very nice |
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| 06:31.50 | mi11k1 | kind of usually when you start telling you to go to other places like everyone's tapped out of ideas |
| 06:32.10 | mi11k1 | so then they're helping you by telling you where you should be looking for help |
| 06:32.12 | jim | jim_carry, I thought it would be convenient since you actually have it already |
| 06:32.25 | jim_carry | jim: what |
| 06:32.45 | mi11k1 | Jim is right but the guy is just stubborn I guess |
| 06:32.52 | jim_carry | Okay friends thnk you |
| 06:32.58 | jim_carry | mi11k1: why friend? |
| 06:33.22 | mi11k1 | you're using all these fancy things, and you have all these tools at your disposal but you're not using them |
| 06:33.45 | mi11k1 | try Debian |
| 06:33.55 | jim_carry | mi11k1: Okay brother |
| 06:34.01 | jim_carry | or sister |
| 06:34.09 | mi11k1 | maybe you will just start using Debian and say it's better than Arch |
| 06:34.21 | jim_carry | yeah it is very nice but it has old packages |
| 06:34.30 | jim_carry | and my dot files won't work with it |
| 06:34.35 | mi11k1 | there's back ports |
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| 06:34.49 | mi11k1 | run testing or unstable |
| 06:34.57 | jim_carry | I am running jessie |
| 06:34.58 | mi11k1 | try docker |
| 06:35.03 | jim_carry | what is docker |
| 06:35.13 | mi11k1 | I thought u were on arch? |
| 06:35.23 | jim_carry | yeah I am doing penta boot you know |
| 06:35.33 | mi11k1 | it's like a vm, but not quite |
| 06:35.48 | jim_carry | vm need resources which I don't have |
| 06:35.49 | mi11k1 | I don't even know what that is all my computers are old |
| 06:36.10 | mi11k1 | it doesn't use barely any resources |
| 06:36.16 | jim_carry | what is docker? |
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| 06:36.33 | gonano | guys what do you think about the future of this project? |
| 06:36.49 | jim_carry | I have tried virtualbox mi11k1 it need more memory to run smoothly |
| 06:36.55 | mi11k1 | look it up, they are containers and it's easy to try just different stuff out problem is you have to know some tricks to get display to work, like forwarding ex or something |
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| 06:37.13 | mi11k1 | well you probably did install the client additions either, you need those for it to run good |
| 06:37.15 | anikras | jim_carry, try vagrant |
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| 06:37.44 | jim_carry | anikras: what is difference between vagrant and virtualbox ? I can run virtualbox fromcommandline what is the point of vagrant? |
| 06:37.46 | mi11k1 | you could run chromium on a Jessie vm with |
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| 06:38.04 | mi11k1 | less that 512ram |
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| 06:38.19 | jim_carry | mi11k1: very clunky unresponsive |
| 06:38.24 | anikras | jim_carry, you don't need interface, only terminal |
| 06:38.43 | jim_carry | anikras: virtualbox has headless mode |
| 06:38.46 | mi11k1 | virtualbox has a CLI if you want to use it and it has headless support |
| 06:38.56 | jim_carry | yeah |
| 06:39.08 | jim_carry | then what vagrant is? |
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| 06:39.32 | jim_carry | something like , prebuilt os images? |
| 06:39.40 | mi11k1 | run chromium in Kiosk mode with no Wm |
| 06:39.42 | jim_carry | alreadly installed necessary stuff? |
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| 06:39.53 | jim_carry | is it right? |
| 06:39.56 | jim_carry | anikras: |
| 06:40.01 | anikras | jim_carry, more or less |
| 06:40.03 | jim_carry | mi11k1: what is kiosk? |
| 06:40.19 | jim_carry | How can i run chromium on vagrant? |
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| 06:40.30 | anikras | jim_carry, you can download a clean image and run scripts for different environmments |
| 06:40.39 | mi11k1 | it runs similar to app modem it's like full screen |
| 06:40.51 | mi11k1 | try right now |
| 06:41.05 | mi11k1 | chromium --kiosk |
| 06:41.07 | jim_carry | okay can you provide me resource about vagrant? |
| 06:41.14 | jim_carry | okay mi11k1 |
| 06:41.23 | mi11k1 | and put a url |
| 06:41.55 | jim_carry | yeah it opens regular chromium window |
| 06:42.05 | mi11k1 | man I just installed plasma desktop, it's pretty slick |
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| 06:42.23 | anikras | jim_carry, https://www.vagrantup.com/ |
| 06:42.29 | mi11k1 | I've never tried KDE cause I thought it was a heavy load it, but this thing runs pretty slick |
| 06:42.36 | jim_carry | I am using Window manager |
| 06:43.21 | jim | ,v vagrant |
| 06:43.22 | judd | Package: vagrant on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.3-1; jessie: 1.6.5+dfsg1-2; sid: 1.8.4+dfsg-2; stretch: 1.8.4+dfsg-2 |
| 06:43.51 | anikras | jim_carry, https://atlas.hashicorp.com/boxes/search |
| 06:43.53 | mi11k1 | install a minimal Debian and try running chromium without a window manager |
| 06:44.21 | jim | so, its packaged for debian... |
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| 06:44.29 | mi11k1 | you never said what desktop environment you were using still I don't think |
| 06:44.43 | Wally | He said he was using arch |
| 06:44.59 | mi11k1 | I don't know anything about arch |
| 06:45.03 | Wally | :) |
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| 06:45.13 | mi11k1 | doesn't it have open box and all that? |
| 06:45.16 | jim | meetoo |
| 06:45.38 | jim_carry | mi11k1: You talking to me? |
| 06:45.50 | jim_carry | confused |
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| 06:46.08 | mi11k1 | well whoever, I thought art was a distribution, and it had a choice of desktop environments |
| 06:46.16 | mi11k1 | arch* |
| 06:46.23 | jim_carry | yes |
| 06:46.29 | jim_carry | I run i3 window manager |
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| 06:46.45 | jim_carry | not DE |
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| 06:47.08 | mi11k1 | try a different environment that I 3 thing is kind of like a kid's toy |
| 06:47.20 | jim_carry | heh mi11k1 |
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| 06:47.42 | mi11k1 | Try mate |
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| 06:47.52 | jim_carry | shiat |
| 06:47.59 | mi11k1 | that one you use his laser beams and stuff weird sounds all the time |
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| 06:48.27 | jim_carry | I don't like heavy guis |
| 06:48.37 | mi11k1 | in Pokemon |
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| 06:48.39 | jim_carry | I like xfce but that requires mouse to operate |
| 06:48.50 | jim_carry | I3 is completly keyboard centric |
| 06:49.07 | jim_carry | I don't have mouse with my computer |
| 06:49.11 | mi11k1 | try awesome |
| 06:49.23 | jim_carry | I'll try |
| 06:49.33 | jim_carry | you run awesome? |
| 06:49.37 | mi11k1 | I like openbox |
| 06:49.50 | mi11k1 | I have an install that use it sometimes it depends on what I'm doing |
| 06:50.01 | jim_carry | I only tried i3 and it isvery nice |
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| 06:50.15 | mi11k1 | yeah, they call that eye candy |
| 06:50.17 | jim_carry | what feature does openbox awesome has |
| 06:50.31 | mi11k1 | lightweight that's about it |
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| 06:50.44 | jim_carry | I mean how they are different from i3 |
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| 06:51.00 | jim_carry | i3 is lightest |
| 06:51.01 | mi11k1 | look up a distribution called crunchbang or its successorbunson |
| 06:51.16 | jim_carry | nothing is better that i3 that I have seen |
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| 06:51.25 | mi11k1 | I'm confusing it with Enlightenment I think |
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| 06:51.43 | mi11k1 | sorry |
| 06:51.47 | jim_carry | pardon |
| 06:52.10 | mi11k1 | I'm thinking of e17 or whatever it's called |
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| 06:52.41 | jim_carry | I suggest you to try arch once, and pm me how debian is better than arch |
| 06:52.48 | mi11k1 | it's got all these bells and whistles and crazy things going on in it. |
| 06:52.59 | mi11k1 | yeah I'm downloading it right now I'm going to install it on virtualbox |
| 06:53.11 | jim_carry | Okay |
| 06:53.21 | jim_carry | Have you heard of AUR? |
| 06:53.29 | mi11k1 | apparently it's a really good distribution and it has really good support |
| 06:53.42 | mi11k1 | but I've tried a bunch of stuff and deviance seems to be where my home is |
| 06:53.54 | jim_carry | yeah debian is good for servers and old sitizens |
| 06:53.55 | mi11k1 | debian* |
| 06:54.33 | mi11k1 | you can put your stuff on it if you want cutting eggs and you go |
| 06:54.34 | jim_carry | Oh I am debian channel |
| 06:54.40 | mi11k1 | haha oops |
| 06:54.42 | Wally | cutting eggs lol |
| 06:54.55 | Wally | Did it really take you that long to realise jim_carry? |
| 06:54.57 | mi11k1 | speech to text on an Android |
| 06:55.03 | jim_carry | Wally: yeah sorryyy |
| 06:55.13 | mi11k1 | that's amazing |
| 06:55.23 | mi11k1 | truly bud |
| 06:55.35 | Wally | You're full of shit xD |
| 06:55.44 | mi11k1 | why didn't anybody drop any hints about Debian come on guys |
| 06:55.54 | jim_carry | heh |
| 06:56.14 | mi11k1 | redirect the people to their proper channels next time? |
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| 06:56.47 | jim | if he doesn['t like it, he doesn;t like it... I'm not going to try convincing him otherwise... |
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| 06:57.16 | jim_carry | I only like two distributions arch and debian, my parents use debian |
| 06:57.23 | jim_carry | :) |
| 06:57.31 | jim_carry | ?1 |
| 06:57.36 | mi11k1 | so that's why you said it's for old people? |
| 06:57.45 | jim_carry | my parents are old |
| 06:57.50 | jim_carry | Im 22 |
| 06:58.22 | mi11k1 | all the distributions are aimed at people young and old at the same time really |
| 06:58.25 | jim_carry | I think due to language barrier some people misunderstood me |
| 06:58.33 | mi11k1 | it's kind of like you make it what you want i |
| 06:58.46 | jim_carry | I don't agree bro |
| 06:58.54 | mi11k1 | I think everyone did |
| 06:59.04 | jim_carry | your thinking is not right |
| 06:59.11 | jim | but traffic about arch, they could zap you for that |
| 06:59.22 | jim_carry | who |
| 06:59.28 | mi11k1 | that's fine, that's why you're stuck where you're at |
| 06:59.34 | jim_carry | yeah |
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| 07:00.01 | jim_carry | I am gonna run debian on next reboot |
| 07:00.15 | mi11k1 | you have to keep looking for something better because there probably is something better than that will better suit your needs |
| 07:00.23 | jim_carry | the only problem i don't run deian because it has old i3 package |
| 07:00.34 | mi11k1 | build it |
| 07:00.41 | jim_carry | I don't know that kind of stuff |
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| 07:00.57 | mi11k1 | do you know what backports is |
| 07:01.03 | jim_carry | no |
| 07:01.09 | mi11k1 | or debian sid? |
| 07:01.21 | jim_carry | sid is unstabble |
| 07:01.26 | mi11k1 | ok, I just dropped some hints then |
| 07:01.34 | jim_carry | sorry wheezy is stable |
| 07:01.41 | jim | jim_carry, and, people would be glad to help you with the problem you're having under debian here |
| 07:01.41 | jim_carry | and jessie is unstable nd testing |
| 07:01.42 | jim_carry | right? |
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| 07:01.46 | mi11k1 | jessie |
| 07:01.53 | jim_carry | jim: Thank you |
| 07:02.20 | leafwiz | Hey. I want to kill my mate-terminal process, but it is run as pid 1. What will happen when i kill pid 1 ? |
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| 07:02.32 | jim_carry | it is init process |
| 07:02.46 | leafwiz | What I want to accompish is to kill all of my terminals |
| 07:02.55 | leafwiz | But I can't seem to find them under ps |
| 07:02.56 | jim_carry | killall -9 terminals |
| 07:02.56 | jim | jim_carry, it would be good if you boot debian and come back (you can install hexchat or whichever) |
| 07:03.06 | mi11k1 | somebody is going to bitch at me but edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:03.16 | mi11k1 | change jessie to testing |
| 07:03.33 | mi11k1 | then do apt update and apt upgrade whatever |
| 07:03.42 | jim_carry | okay jim |
| 07:03.50 | leafwiz | jim_carry: yes, I don't have any processes named mate-terminal |
| 07:03.53 | leafwiz | except for one |
| 07:03.56 | leafwiz | and it has pid 1 |
| 07:04.08 | jim | mi11k1, there are steps he should take before that if he really wants to run testing |
| 07:04.14 | jim_carry | Well I don't understand sources.list, I always mess it up |
| 07:04.16 | mi11k1 | I know |
| 07:04.21 | jim_carry | help me understanding it |
| 07:04.46 | mi11k1 | ok u use jessie right ? |
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| 07:04.53 | jim | ok... boot debian and we'll see what can be done |
| 07:05.05 | mi11k1 | add to sources jessie back ports |
| 07:05.20 | jim_carry | okay I am booting debian now |
| 07:05.31 | mi11k1 | just Google debian back ports |
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| 07:06.24 | mi11k1 | I'm a newb too, but it's a simple to build from source package |
| 07:06.44 | mi11k1 | for most stuff |
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| 07:07.41 | mi11k1 | https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/x11/i3 |
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| 07:08.23 | Black-Ridder | hi erverybody |
| 07:08.32 | Wally | hi Black-Ridder |
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| 07:08.43 | jim | hi |
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| 07:09.09 | isLuks | Hi. I have a raw image file from a disk which contains 3 partitions, one of then encrypted with cryptsetup (LUKS). I can mount the first 2 (unencrypted) partitions providing the offset for the begining of the partition, but I'm facing difficulties mounting the encrypted one. Could someone provide me directions on this task? |
| 07:09.15 | mi11k1 | Backwoods has like right up to date with the I3 web page |
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| 07:09.30 | mi11k1 | backwoods haha |
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| 07:10.06 | mi11k1 | bye Jim carry |
| 07:10.09 | Black-Ridder | i've broke my mysql packet, can you help me please? i've already tried to purge, -f install |
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| 07:10.20 | mi11k1 | hi Jim carry |
| 07:10.48 | umbaman | hi... |
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| 07:10.55 | mi11k1 | pastebin the output |
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| 07:11.09 | jim | did you reboot already? |
| 07:11.30 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Any databases you need to backup from that or just want a clean/fresh install of MySQL? |
| 07:11.30 | mi11k1 | purge and install don't jive well |
| 07:11.36 | umbaman | I want to access a pc in a windows network, but when i try to browse the network it asks for username and password...? |
| 07:11.56 | mi11k1 | try guest |
| 07:12.02 | umbaman | ok will do |
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| 07:12.23 | mi11k1 | is the share on windows or linux |
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| 07:13.08 | umbaman | several pcs under the WORKGROUP domain |
| 07:13.17 | mi11k1 | try the credentials of the windows account you're trying to access |
| 07:13.17 | Black-Ridder | you'll see very fast the problem, cause i've deleted /var/mysql (not sure of the positions, it was at 2am haha) and /etc/mysql manualy (yes, i know,... bad idea,... and no save,... very bad idea) |
| 07:13.35 | Black-Ridder | yes i rebooted many times :( |
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| 07:13.50 | umbaman | nop |
| 07:13.54 | mi11k1 | dpkg-reconfigure mysql |
| 07:13.57 | Black-Ridder | --purge and install no |
| 07:14.05 | Black-Ridder | not shared |
| 07:14.11 | umbaman | Am I missing any oackages..? |
| 07:14.16 | umbaman | like samba or something? |
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| 07:14.33 | Black-Ridder | dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server not working |
| 07:14.37 | mi11k1 | adduser user to shit |
| 07:14.45 | mi11k1 | what's that group? |
| 07:14.55 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: apt-get remove --purge mysql-server && apt-get autoremove --purge |
| 07:15.07 | mi11k1 | try mysql* |
| 07:15.13 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Then, dpkg -l | grep -ie mysql |
| 07:15.23 | Black-Ridder | no any packages missing but i think many configuration file but the reinstallation dont regenerate them :/ |
| 07:15.29 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Check that is being held back. Remove and reinstall mysql-server. |
| 07:15.31 | mi11k1 | what's that group for shares? |
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| 07:16.14 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Probably because mysql-common, mysql-server-core or anything has been left behind |
| 07:16.26 | umbaman | mi11k1 r u talking top me? |
| 07:16.39 | mi11k1 | yah I can't think of the group |
| 07:17.07 | mi11k1 | add yourself to ,,.., help me somebody |
| 07:17.23 | umbaman | there is a domain named WORKGROUP |
| 07:17.31 | umbaman | in which several pcs are connected |
| 07:17.32 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Remove mysql-server, then check what has been left behind with dpkg -l | grep -ie mysql |
| 07:17.39 | mi11k1 | nono it's a group in linux |
| 07:17.51 | umbaman | the storage pc allows access to everyoine |
| 07:17.51 | mi11k1 | for remote file systems and stuff |
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| 07:18.01 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Remove anything mysql server related and reinstall mysql-server package. |
| 07:18.16 | mi11k1 | no, gimme a second |
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| 07:18.21 | umbaman | i am trying to acess this domain using a debian pc |
| 07:18.24 | umbaman | ok |
| 07:18.45 | mi11k1 | I know you have to add yourself tooo..... |
| 07:18.56 | umbaman | hmm |
| 07:18.58 | umbaman | ok |
| 07:19.03 | umbaman | how? |
| 07:19.11 | mi11k1 | I can't believe I'm drawing a blank on this right niw |
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| 07:20.06 | Black-Ridder | he wants my password (mysql) but when i valide he said "impossible to change user's mysql password for root" (from french) |
| 07:20.33 | mi11k1 | fuse |
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| 07:20.42 | umbaman | ok |
| 07:20.42 | mi11k1 | do adduser user fuse |
| 07:20.55 | Black-Ridder | invoke rc.d initscript mysql failed |
| 07:21.01 | mi11k1 | and then log out and back in |
| 07:21.27 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Have you removed mysql-server and its dependencies? |
| 07:21.36 | mi11k1 | if the group doesn't exist just do addgroup fuse |
| 07:21.40 | umbaman | ok |
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| 07:22.33 | mi11k1 | oh install cifs-utils |
| 07:23.06 | Black-Ridder | isLucks i've already tried that, it was my first idea, all delete and all restore but i've always my error |
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| 07:24.01 | mi11k1 | dude disable the stuff, purge mysql* |
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| 07:24.33 | mi11k1 | reboot , update upgrade and try and reinstall |
| 07:24.44 | mi11k1 | try with aptitude maybe |
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| 07:25.28 | mi11k1 | I run that crap in docker now |
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| 07:26.25 | mi11k1 | do you use mysql workbench? |
| 07:26.42 | mi11k1 | it's a nice little proggy |
| 07:26.44 | Black-Ridder | no i don't use mysqlworkbeench :/ |
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| 07:27.27 | mi11k1 | oh, well I don't know a think about mysql, but I manage using that gui |
| 07:27.34 | mi11k1 | or we vm in |
| 07:27.52 | isLuks | Black-Ridder: Do you have any instances of mysql server running? |
| 07:28.10 | mi11k1 | haha, for sure he does |
| 07:28.27 | mi11k1 | reboot in safe mode a purge that crap |
| 07:29.09 | Black-Ridder | not running, he dont want start on boot (and not after) |
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| 07:29.35 | mi11k1 | if you just wanna mess with it, installed the author and just download a mysql docker image |
| 07:29.43 | Black-Ridder | in safe mode? there is a safe mode in linux? |
| 07:29.49 | mi11k1 | docker* |
| 07:29.57 | mi11k1 | in grub |
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| 07:30.17 | mi11k1 | advanced and recovery or whatever |
| 07:30.20 | Black-Ridder | ho yes, and how to? |
| 07:30.21 | Black-Ridder | okay |
| 07:30.32 | mi11k1 | that's what I do, I dunno |
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| 07:30.34 | Black-Ridder | grub => F8 is it? |
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| 07:30.47 | mi11k1 | I just push arrow down |
| 07:30.51 | mi11k1 | lol |
| 07:31.20 | mi11k1 | enter, probably few more arrows and enter |
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| 07:31.25 | thnee | If I have an X instance running on a display that is not connected anymore, so I can't see it - how do I configure it with xrandr so that it shows up on the current monitor? |
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| 07:31.47 | mi11k1 | reboot |
| 07:31.50 | Black-Ridder | i'll try |
| 07:31.51 | thnee | the usual xrandr command that I normally run, doesn't work from the ctrl+alt+2 prompt (outside of the server itself) |
| 07:32.09 | Black-Ridder | found, |
| 07:32.20 | mi11k1 | found what ? |
| 07:32.28 | thnee | it says X Error of failde request: BadMatch, and Minor opcode of failed request> 21 (RRSetCrtcConfig) |
| 07:32.34 | Black-Ridder | i'll make => apt-get autoremove --purge mysql-server |
| 07:32.37 | dirkk | Hi all, where to store a script that can be executed on the start ? Thanks |
| 07:32.37 | sn0wmonster | how do i enter ASCII characters like in Windows? |
| 07:32.37 | mi11k1 | cause you can't do that |
| 07:32.44 | Black-Ridder | i'll make => apt-get autoremove --purge mysql-server-5.5 |
| 07:32.49 | sn0wmonster | in Windows i'd just use ALT + number |
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| 07:32.56 | mi11k1 | just do mysql* |
| 07:33.07 | Black-Ridder | okay thanks |
| 07:33.13 | thnee | I tried adding -d :0 to my xrandr command but it still doesnt want to run from that prompt.. |
| 07:33.26 | Black-Ridder | and next i reboot and next i install? |
| 07:33.26 | mi11k1 | haha |
| 07:33.45 | mi11k1 | I dunno did it find more junk to remove ? |
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| 07:35.02 | mi11k1 | thnee try reading some stuff and configuring a dm |
| 07:35.32 | sn0wmonster | nevermind, found it. Debian requires using the hex value instead of decimal, and its CTRL + SHIFT + U |
| 07:35.55 | mi11k1 | for what? |
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| 07:37.00 | mi11k1 | I don't even what your trying to do man, lol, I just throw some random out there for you. |
| 07:37.23 | mi11k1 | lol, man all this stuff pretty to find on Google |
| 07:37.52 | mi11k1 | I usually just come when really need to find some answers |
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| 07:39.10 | mi11k1 | if you just tell Google in plain English what you want, it usually will help |
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| 07:40.16 | Black-Ridder | i think that's alright |
| 07:41.29 | mi11k1 | irc is where you come to find the guys that know the hard stuff. |
| 07:41.48 | umbaman | mi11k1 |
| 07:41.55 | mi11k1 | yo |
| 07:41.59 | umbaman | i asked again the network admin |
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| 07:42.15 | umbaman | and finally he remembered that you actually have to add a username and a password |
| 07:42.17 | mi11k1 | did you install cifs-utils |
| 07:42.25 | umbaman | to access the specific network share |
| 07:42.34 | mi11k1 | well it depends on the share |
| 07:42.39 | umbaman | yea |
| 07:42.51 | umbaman | I just added the username and the password and im in |
| 07:42.52 | mi11k1 | if it's a public share the |
| 07:42.53 | umbaman | so simple |
| 07:43.08 | umbaman | thank for your time |
| 07:43.19 | mi11k1 | haha, well that was the first thing I assumed you did, lol |
| 07:43.34 | umbaman | :) |
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| 07:43.38 | umbaman | it was |
| 07:43.44 | umbaman | i did ask him |
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| 07:43.49 | umbaman | it;s never bad to ask again |
| 07:44.09 | mi11k1 | but it might not have worked if you're linux user isn't in the fuse group |
| 07:44.19 | umbaman | hmm |
| 07:44.26 | umbaman | yes |
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| 07:44.39 | umbaman | i did that...probably this helped |
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| 07:45.08 | mi11k1 | and cifs-utils you add a line to /etc/fstab and make it Permian |
| 07:45.14 | mi11k1 | permanent |
| 07:46.04 | mi11k1 | on the windows stuff, if there's public shares usually guest works or nobody maybe |
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| 07:49.30 | mi11k1 | hey everybody , here's a question ..how do I get my stuff stop hanging if some of my shares are mia |
| 07:49.40 | mi11k1 | and still auto mount |
| 07:49.51 | mi11k1 | I hate h |
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| 07:50.06 | mi11k1 | waiting for this time I was using the control thing to make it crash |
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| 07:52.00 | mi11k1 | actually I guess I can just make a script for when I login |
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| 07:56.30 | thnee | please take a look at this regarding xrandr http://superuser.com/questions/1108148/ |
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| 07:57.23 | mi11k1 | there Santa I tried to help all these Ppl, can we just forget about all the other stuff? thanks Santa |
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| 07:57.56 | mi11k1 | how many physical monitors do you have? |
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| 07:58.18 | thnee | currently connected, 1, like you can see in the output |
| 07:58.27 | mi11k1 | I don't know anything about this stuff, but I'm going to try and help you anyways |
| 07:58.33 | thnee | oh, great |
| 07:58.51 | mi11k1 | so you have 2 monitors though? |
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| 07:59.27 | thnee | DP1 is disconnected yes |
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| 07:59.38 | mi11k1 | do you have your video drivers installed properly? |
| 07:59.47 | thnee | yes |
| 08:00.09 | mi11k1 | if it's a laptop sometimes sometimes through some stuff and by us for that or using that FN button and f8 |
| 08:00.16 | mi11k1 | or whatever |
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| 08:00.40 | mi11k1 | there a package for using 2 monitors |
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| 08:01.55 | mi11k1 | xinerama |
| 08:02.05 | mi11k1 | or something like that |
| 08:02.53 | mi11k1 | you trying to run cheetah different servers on two screens? |
| 08:03.03 | mi11k1 | two* |
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| 08:03.58 | mi11k1 | Google that, cuz you're something million different variations of the stuff |
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| 08:04.12 | AkQ | does anyone know where to rent Server in EU area, with the priority of single core performance and speed of the SSD - i've checked OVH and SoYouStart (also ovh) but many says OVH is bad and all that - also i've checked Hetzner but they have bad reputation about ddos attacks |
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| 08:04.51 | mi11k1 | just proxy where you wanna go |
| 08:05.26 | mi11k1 | is it for high traffic important stuff |
| 08:05.33 | AkQ | it's for mmorpg server |
| 08:05.42 | mi11k1 | what's that? |
| 08:05.53 | AkQ | massive multiplayer online roleplaying game -server |
| 08:06.11 | Disconsented | Its really just those two AkQ |
| 08:06.18 | mi11k1 | just one anywhere |
| 08:06.22 | AkQ | Disconsented: that's what i am afraid of |
| 08:06.26 | Disconsented | just remember people with shitty experiences tend yo speak up |
| 08:06.40 | AkQ | yea, i have thought about that too |
| 08:06.51 | AkQ | those that have no bad experiences, don't say a word |
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| 08:07.16 | mi11k1 | I dunno I use Chicago vps |
| 08:07.23 | mi11k1 | it's now here's |
| 08:07.49 | mi11k1 | near me, but for a couple of dollars a month I get usually pretty good service and low ping |
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| 08:08.05 | dirkk | Hi, is it possible to execute 'sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm/ stop' in a script |
| 08:08.44 | mi11k1 | well sudo will be looking for a password |
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| 08:10.28 | Disconsented | AkQ> I have a bunch of aquantences that use both |
| 08:10.33 | Disconsented | you'll probably be fine |
| 08:10.38 | mi11k1 | how much memory and bandwidth does the game soak up? |
| 08:10.43 | AkQ | Disconsented i sure hope so - thanks for info |
| 08:11.06 | mi11k1 | cuz the processing speeds are pretty freaking fast on these things Alma I used to run aircrack on one it was kind of fun |
| 08:11.11 | AkQ | mi11k1 about 1gb ram. the bandwidth is a bit hard question - it's all about latency really |
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| 08:11.37 | mi11k1 | do you have PayPal? |
| 08:11.43 | AkQ | sure - who doesn't |
| 08:12.20 | mi11k1 | so try one out, in like less than 5 minutes and $3 us you could have a a Wheezy server for a month you can try |
| 08:12.35 | AkQ | Jessie > Wheezy ? |
| 08:13.05 | mi11k1 | well there is Jessie ones but the cheap ones they seem to have blocked out the Jessie images and I haven't really bothered trying to upgrade to Jessie using sources list |
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| 08:14.47 | mi11k1 | the Wheezy images pretty decent for all that stuff usually, you can build stuff on there so fast or install stuff, and if you wanted to start a little girls go to the web UI and rebuild it in two seconds and start from scratch |
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| 08:16.41 | mi11k1 | AkQ, lemme see if I can throw your thing up on one of my vps |
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| 08:17.19 | AkQ | empty server does take only 70mb of ram |
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| 08:19.10 | L0aD1nG | hello there |
| 08:19.27 | L0aD1nG | I have a weird problem my microsd card connected via usb is not recognised |
| 08:19.31 | L0aD1nG | any solution |
| 08:19.33 | L0aD1nG | ? |
| 08:19.41 | Black-Ridder | solved! |
| 08:19.51 | Black-Ridder | many thanks everybody |
| 08:19.55 | umbaman | unplug it plug it back |
| 08:19.59 | umbaman | and run dmesg |
| 08:20.02 | Black-Ridder | sorry for the time ;) |
| 08:20.10 | mi11k1 | don't put SD card in USB slot |
| 08:20.17 | mi11k1 | haha |
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| 08:20.18 | L0aD1nG | lol |
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| 08:20.22 | umbaman | hahaa |
| 08:20.25 | L0aD1nG | with a usb adapter |
| 08:20.28 | L0aD1nG | .... |
| 08:20.39 | mi11k1 | or are you using an hopefully |
| 08:20.40 | Black-Ridder | i have to go but i'll come back, see you ;) |
| 08:20.47 | mi11k1 | k cya |
| 08:20.53 | L0aD1nG | please help me I need to solve this |
| 08:21.03 | L0aD1nG | doesnt seem to have any real solution on the net |
| 08:21.07 | mi11k1 | I think they wear out |
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| 08:21.24 | mi11k1 | I have one that's messed no work |
| 08:21.28 | simonlnu | L0aD1nG: see syslog if it got detected. |
| 08:21.35 | mi11k1 | no reason |
| 08:21.42 | simonlnu | L0aD1nG: otherwise eject it then re-try |
| 08:21.52 | mi11k1 | and the card works fine |
| 08:22.25 | L0aD1nG | i run dmesg | grep sd |
| 08:22.30 | L0aD1nG | and i get nothing |
| 08:22.31 | mi11k1 | are you trying to copy an image to it |
| 08:22.32 | simonlnu | greb usb |
| 08:22.42 | umbaman | grep nothing |
| 08:22.45 | simonlnu | usb disconnect/connect |
| 08:22.48 | umbaman | just dmesg | tail |
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| 08:22.51 | mi11k1 | it's messed |
| 08:22.58 | mi11k1 | throw it away |
| 08:23.03 | umbaman | hahaa |
| 08:23.10 | mi11k1 | I'm serious |
| 08:23.15 | simonlnu | if you have to say that's constructive, please be quiet. thanks. |
| 08:23.15 | umbaman | i know |
| 08:23.21 | umbaman | it;s just funny |
| 08:23.22 | simonlnu | have nothing to* |
| 08:23.27 | mi11k1 | they're like at the dollar store |
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| 08:23.49 | L0aD1nG | i paste noe |
| 08:23.51 | mi11k1 | if I'm desperate I'll put card in my phone and USB to linux |
| 08:23.52 | L0aD1nG | now |
| 08:24.00 | simonlnu | paste site, not here |
| 08:24.10 | mi11k1 | but no DD or anything |
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| 08:24.27 | L0aD1nG | https://ghostbin.com/paste/czaxd |
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| 08:25.03 | mi11k1 | the last and she was talking about a camera or something |
| 08:25.31 | mi11k1 | add yourself to dial out group and fuse |
| 08:25.37 | umbaman | is yous adapter working?? |
| 08:25.46 | L0aD1nG | I ll check |
| 08:25.51 | L0aD1nG | but I think it does |
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| 08:25.56 | L0aD1nG | I will check on windows... |
| 08:25.56 | mi11k1 | what the hell there's two people here with the same problem? |
| 08:26.19 | simonlnu | host adapter is obviously working. |
| 08:26.58 | umbaman | im talking about the usb card adapter |
| 08:27.26 | mi11k1 | well what's on the card right now now |
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| 08:27.51 | mi11k1 | do you got gparted? |
| 08:28.10 | simonlnu | L0aD1nG: try unplugging it, and put it in another port |
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| 08:28.16 | mi11k1 | or the card is maybe messed if you have been messing DD |
| 08:28.47 | mi11k1 | put the card in a phone or something |
| 08:28.58 | mi11k1 | see if it will format it |
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| 08:30.03 | simonlnu | L0aD1nG: try dmesg or syslog when you do insert it |
| 08:30.12 | mi11k1 | or go get another at 711 or whatever minimart |
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| 08:31.48 | simonlnu | L0aD1nG: pmount is handy for mounting stuff like that at a terminal |
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| 08:32.03 | mi11k1 | what is it for |
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| 08:32.25 | simonlnu | ,i pmount |
| 08:32.26 | judd | Package pmount (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: mount removable devices as normal user. Version: 0.9.23-3+b1; Size: 83.0k; Installed: 733k; RFA: #689854 |
| 08:32.36 | mi11k1 | what are you doing , raspberry |
| 08:32.48 | dezzo | hey #offsec |
| 08:33.00 | simonlnu | dezzo: you're not in #offsec |
| 08:33.01 | dezzo | dayum...again |
| 08:33.05 | dezzo | yeh...i saw it |
| 08:33.17 | dezzo | this client is driving me crazy |
| 08:33.22 | s0lid2 | Anybody got solution to following issue with new debian stretch netinstall cds: stuck on "configure the package manager" |
| 08:33.23 | dezzo | sorry :) |
| 08:34.10 | mi11k1 | solid I hanged there too |
| 08:34.23 | simonlnu | hung |
| 08:34.44 | mi11k1 | I found it easier to upgrade from testing or whatever |
| 08:34.45 | simonlnu | anyway, good luck L0aD1nG |
| 08:35.10 | mi11k1 | no it hanged |
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| 08:35.48 | mi11k1 | sorry actually its it's probably still hanging somewhere |
| 08:37.03 | mi11k1 | I didn't know there was proper whatever for it taking huge dump |
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| 08:37.22 | mi11k1 | that's usury what I call it when it stops working |
| 08:37.49 | L0aD1nG | it is recognised on windows |
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| 08:38.11 | mi11k1 | what file system is the card? |
| 08:38.20 | umbaman | unplug/plug run dmesg, paste output |
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| 08:39.19 | mi11k1 | is window |
| 08:39.38 | mi11k1 | telling you to format the frigging card? |
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| 08:40.33 | mi11k1 | it's probably ntfs and you don't ntfs support installed on debian |
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| 08:40.57 | L0aD1nG | https://ghostbin.com/paste/4hte8 |
| 08:41.02 | L0aD1nG | here is dmesg paste |
| 08:41.45 | mi11k1 | clear that crap |
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| 08:42.29 | mi11k1 | and run dmsg with --follow |
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| 08:46.07 | L0aD1nG | i dont see any difference |
| 08:46.32 | L0aD1nG | except that the it hangs like it waits for input or something |
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| 08:50.59 | mi11k1 | I don't see anything about shit getting plugged in |
| 08:51.11 | L0aD1nG | yea |
| 08:51.19 | L0aD1nG | dude it should go to the sdb |
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| 08:51.23 | umbaman | yes |
| 08:51.25 | mi11k1 | it's probably not compliant to USB 3 |
| 08:51.26 | L0aD1nG | /dev/sd* |
| 08:51.35 | L0aD1nG | cause it a usb, thats the usual |
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| 08:51.40 | umbaman | hmm |
| 08:51.41 | L0aD1nG | now I am checking the arch linux forums |
| 08:51.44 | mi11k1 | do dms |
| 08:51.48 | umbaman | try runing hardinfo |
| 08:52.02 | mi11k1 | dmesg with -C |
| 08:52.03 | L0aD1nG | and I see that some microsd cards do work by default some others doesnt |
| 08:52.06 | L0aD1nG | for a guy there |
| 08:52.28 | mi11k1 | then plug it in and unplug it and pastebin the new dmesg |
| 08:52.47 | umbaman | do you have any other cards that you know that they are working in linux? |
| 08:52.53 | mi11k1 | I don't know, I hate looking at other peoples D message stuff with all the irrelevant stuff |
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| 08:53.08 | umbaman | then try dmesg|tail |
| 08:53.24 | mi11k1 | doesn't that thing have a card reader? |
| 08:53.56 | mi11k1 | use a converter to micro |
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| 08:54.07 | mi11k1 | because usually everybody has 10 or 15 of those |
| 08:54.32 | umbaman | try a couple of different tool |
| 08:54.48 | umbaman | hwinfo or hardinfo |
| 08:54.49 | L0aD1nG | umbaman: no |
| 08:54.53 | rozie | did we had dmesg already? |
| 08:54.56 | L0aD1nG | but I am thinking about getting some |
| 08:55.04 | umbaman | thyes rozie |
| 08:55.06 | L0aD1nG | I have troubles with some really mean people |
| 08:55.08 | umbaman | yes rozie |
| 08:55.10 | L0aD1nG | and I need the videos |
| 08:55.13 | L0aD1nG | I recorded |
| 08:55.25 | L0aD1nG | I need them on linux so I can clear them out |
| 08:55.38 | L0aD1nG | mi11k1: has for an sd card |
| 08:55.54 | L0aD1nG | rozie: |
| 08:56.00 | L0aD1nG | https://ghostbin.com/paste/4hte8 |
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| 08:56.50 | L0aD1nG | umbaman: hardinfo will just show us info right? |
| 08:57.14 | umbaman | yes in a graphical fashion |
| 08:57.15 | mi11k1 | I don't see you trying to plug in this thing at the bottom of that list I see a bunch of Wi-Fi stuff |
| 08:57.23 | umbaman | it's a handy tool to have |
| 08:57.46 | rozie | L0aD1nG: so nothing happens in dmesg when you plug this device? |
| 08:57.47 | L0aD1nG | umbaman: i hate graphical fashion :D |
| 08:57.58 | umbaman | the try hwinfo |
| 08:58.03 | umbaman | hwinfo --usb |
| 08:58.04 | L0aD1nG | rozie: this is dmesg with the device plugged in |
| 08:58.04 | mi11k1 | I don't see anything about him trying to plug in the thing |
| 08:58.20 | mi11k1 | what about lsusb |
| 08:58.27 | rozie | L0aD1nG: you were asked to unplug it and plug it, then provide dmesg |
| 08:58.45 | umbaman | rozie is right |
| 08:58.49 | mi11k1 | yah I don't see anything it being plugged in. |
| 08:59.07 | mi11k1 | plug it I a regular USB |
| 08:59.13 | umbaman | mi11k1: hwinfo is more detailed |
| 08:59.16 | mi11k1 | not 3.0 |
| 08:59.41 | mi11k1 | what file system is on there ? |
| 08:59.43 | rozie | well, if dmesg and lsusb shows nothing... |
| 08:59.48 | rozie | it can't work |
| 08:59.50 | mi11k1 | I know |
| 08:59.56 | L0aD1nG | https://ghostbin.com/paste/b9uk4 |
| 08:59.57 | rozie | uname -a? |
| 09:00.02 | mi11k1 | it's not seeing the adapter |
| 09:00.06 | L0aD1nG | here is the hwinfo --usb |
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| 09:01.05 | L0aD1nG | uname -a : Linux Alchemist 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 09:01.32 | rozie | L0aD1nG: there's info about Device File: /dev/sdb (/dev/sg2) |
| 09:01.41 | rozie | (c)fdisk /dev/sdb? |
| 09:01.48 | L0aD1nG | ... |
| 09:02.03 | umbaman | what about sdb? |
| 09:02.07 | L0aD1nG | omfg |
| 09:02.14 | L0aD1nG | wtf it worked now? |
| 09:02.20 | L0aD1nG | what was the solution?? |
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| 09:02.24 | L0aD1nG | let me mount it |
| 09:02.29 | mi11k1 | I see USB storage mounted |
| 09:02.39 | mi11k1 | yanh |
| 09:02.45 | rozie | the solution was to plug it |
| 09:02.48 | rozie | ;> |
| 09:02.51 | mi11k1 | haha omg |
| 09:03.19 | L0aD1nG | rozie: |
| 09:03.21 | L0aD1nG | omfg |
| 09:03.25 | L0aD1nG | I dont think so really |
| 09:03.31 | rozie | well, I do |
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| 09:03.33 | L0aD1nG | i did it hundred of times |
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| 09:04.09 | rozie | you may check if it's still visible after reboot |
| 09:04.23 | umbaman | maybe probing with hwinfo |
| 09:04.26 | umbaman | was the solution |
| 09:04.30 | L0aD1nG | yea |
| 09:04.31 | umbaman | just guessing |
| 09:04.33 | L0aD1nG | seems so |
| 09:04.36 | mi11k1 | unplug before you reboot mayne |
| 09:04.37 | rozie | it might not be recognized properly when plugged on bood |
| 09:04.37 | L0aD1nG | but its not logical |
| 09:04.39 | rozie | boot* |
| 09:04.55 | L0aD1nG | tried it when i was on too |
| 09:04.55 | umbaman | repeat several times |
| 09:04.57 | mi11k1 | your bios might try boot it |
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| 09:05.04 | L0aD1nG | lol |
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| 09:05.54 | L0aD1nG | it sudenly works really |
| 09:05.57 | mi11k1 | what file manager are you using ? |
| 09:06.03 | L0aD1nG | my terminal? |
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| 09:06.17 | Rephlexie | curious what a tail -f var/mes~ says when you plug and remove it |
| 09:06.19 | L0aD1nG | and i also have spacefm |
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| 09:06.37 | L0aD1nG | Rephlexie: you need me to remove it and run this command? |
| 09:06.42 | mi11k1 | what desktop environment |
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| 09:06.58 | L0aD1nG | i3 |
| 09:07.15 | mi11k1 | lake is there crap in there that you have her behaviors when you plug in your USB stuff |
| 09:07.28 | L0aD1nG | mi11k1: nope |
| 09:07.38 | L0aD1nG | cause I know to use mount command :) |
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| 09:07.56 | L0aD1nG | nvm i need to run |
| 09:07.58 | mi11k1 | what commands might that be? |
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| 09:08.16 | mi11k1 | oh man it hurts |
| 09:08.31 | L0aD1nG | dmesg | grep sd; mount /dev/sd[whatever] /media/l0ad1ng |
| 09:08.52 | mi11k1 | as root? |
| 09:08.56 | L0aD1nG | yea |
| 09:09.10 | mi11k1 | what's with dmesg |
| 09:09.22 | mi11k1 | oh man |
| 09:09.24 | L0aD1nG | to find out what is the exact path |
| 09:10.12 | mi11k1 | ok that's 2 commands |
| 09:10.37 | L0aD1nG | then i have a written script to unmount it properly with udisks |
| 09:10.46 | mi11k1 | what file system is on there? |
| 09:10.54 | L0aD1nG | :S |
| 09:10.56 | L0aD1nG | on where? |
| 09:11.05 | mi11k1 | the SD card |
| 09:11.25 | mi11k1 | is it fat |
| 09:11.31 | L0aD1nG | ohh and rozie thanks for noting that out, but I really checked it hundred of times and it was not appearing something changed the behaviour |
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| 09:12.08 | L0aD1nG | yea fat |
| 09:12.10 | L0aD1nG | :) |
| 09:12.26 | mi11k1 | how big is the card? |
| 09:12.43 | L0aD1nG | mi11k1: why do you ask :D |
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| 09:13.04 | L0aD1nG | big enough :D |
| 09:13.08 | L0aD1nG | cya arround |
| 09:13.15 | L0aD1nG | and thanks everyone for caring with my problem |
| 09:13.18 | mi11k1 | it seems like a lot Ppl problems just relate to over complication with cli |
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| 09:13.53 | mi11k1 | if x is running, try with the file manager |
| 09:14.44 | mi11k1 | see if the bloody thing is there and click on it and see if my mounts |
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| 09:15.58 | mi11k1 | gnome-disks I like for writing .img to media and gparted I need |
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| 09:21.22 | mi11k1 | I just don't get why I see all this stupid shit that goes on because windows Ppl think linux needs to run from command or else it's cheating, stick with what you know first |
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| 09:23.25 | mi11k1 | crunchbang was awesome to learn on. and I know what everybody says about webmin, but it helped me learn how to use terminal to run a Linux system |
| 09:24.46 | TimWolla | Is anyone running nginx from jessie-backports? It looks to me that the newest version has got broken dependencies: nginx-full : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.2~beta3) but 1.0.1t-1+deb8u2 is to be installed |
| 09:25.14 | mi11k1 | yah I dunno what's up with nginxp |
| 09:25.37 | mi11k1 | I got that error like 2 weeks probably |
| 09:25.48 | valdyn | judd: versions nginx-full |
| 09:25.49 | judd | Package: nginx-full on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2+b1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2+b1; jessie-backports: 1.9.10-1~bpo8+3; sid: 1.10.1-1; stretch: 1.10.1-1; experimental: |
| 09:25.50 | judd | 1.11.3-1~exp1 |
| 09:25.59 | mi11k1 | I didn't look into though. |
| 09:26.10 | Rephlexie | mi11k1, spot on man, mounting a card via usb shouldnt require 2 hours browsing stacko |
| 09:26.43 | mi11k1 | no, if poke around the gui and what's going first |
| 09:26.44 | valdyn | mi11k1: what version is your nginx-full? (apt-cache policy nginx-full) |
| 09:26.53 | TimWolla | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.54 | TimWolla | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.54 | TimWolla | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.54 | TimWolla | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:27.30 | TimWolla | The bpo8+3 update appeared sometime in the past hours. |
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| 09:27.33 | valdyn | TimWolla: use a paste site |
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| 09:28.00 | mi11k1 | I don't even remember what system I was working in thing was on 32bit I hardly use |
| 09:28.03 | valdyn | judd: versions libssl1.0.0 |
| 09:28.04 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u21; jessie-security: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u5; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.0.2h-1~bpo8+1 |
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| 09:28.31 | mi11k1 | Google itt |
| 09:28.46 | TimWolla | In case the output got interrupted before the /var/lib/dpkg/status line: https://paste.debian.net/786726/ |
| 09:29.00 | valdyn | TimWolla: the required libssl1.0.0 is available, as you can see, also from jessie-backports |
| 09:29.27 | TimWolla | Why wouldn't it get automatically installed even with a dist-upgrade or explicit install? |
| 09:29.33 | mi11k1 | you'll find quick cause its probably |
| 09:29.37 | valdyn | TimWolla: no idea |
| 09:29.43 | mi11k1 | do you have contributed and nonfree |
| 09:30.05 | TimWolla | Yes. |
| 09:30.13 | mi11k1 | Dann autoincorrect |
| 09:30.35 | TimWolla | An explicit "apt-get -t jessie-backports install libssl1.0.0" is working. |
| 09:30.39 | beknowly | Does anyone know how to reset python's 'sys.path' on debian jessie? I installed anaconda a while ago which removed all of the 'dist-packages' dirs from it |
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| 09:31.12 | mi11k1 | dpkg-reconfigure maybe |
| 09:31.21 | TimWolla | And my nginx now is upgraded, thanks. |
| 09:32.01 | mi11k1 | yah how come that happens? |
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| 09:32.30 | mi11k1 | your can't put package=whatever |
| 09:32.51 | mi11k1 | u gotta use -t |
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| 09:34.32 | mi11k1 | I'm I started to figure open source stuff when I did because stuff changing way quickly and there way too much misinformation posted the Web |
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| 09:38.45 | mi11k1 | I installed win10 for a friend today, I feel guilty cuz I kind of like it and I think it actually runs pretty good. |
| 09:40.12 | ahri | hi, i'm administering a debian box that does not have access to the internet. i want to install something on there. how can i 1) update its apt cache, and 2) download all necessary debs from a machine that does have access, then finally 3) install those debs in the correct order on that machine? it seems like perhaps --print-uris will come in useful, if that gives me a list in the correct order? |
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| 09:41.04 | mi11k1 | I do dpkg -I folder |
| 09:41.36 | mi11k1 | folder/*.deb |
| 09:41.57 | mi11k1 | and I don't get errors |
| 09:42.29 | mi11k1 | on the machine with the internet you do apt-get and there's a flag to just download the packages |
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| 09:43.30 | mi11k1 | or my favourite do some USB tether to my phone for a min and do updates too |
| 09:44.02 | ahri | oh ok, i'll give the dpkg -I a go |
| 09:44.22 | ahri | i don't have physical access to the machine for tethering unfortunately! |
| 09:44.46 | mi11k1 | it might be lower case |
| 09:44.53 | mi11k1 | I |
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| 09:45.28 | mi11k1 | my dumb dumb tablet ismaking it changing the case on me |
| 09:45.44 | mi11k1 | I just wiped it and I'm not in the mood to configure anything |
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| 09:46.41 | mi11k1 | how are you going to access it? |
| 09:47.04 | ahri | i have ssh access so that's fine |
| 09:47.05 | mi11k1 | through a network with no inet? |
| 09:47.17 | mi11k1 | oh give it some inet |
| 09:47.18 | ahri | i'm stuck on step (1) though; i need to update its apt-cache |
| 09:47.34 | mi11k1 | why |
| 09:47.50 | ahri | so that it can tell me what packages to download |
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| 09:48.00 | mi11k1 | use another system |
| 09:48.13 | ahri | presumably some of its dependency graph is already installed, i don't want to download more than needed |
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| 09:48.33 | mi11k1 | and just sftp a zip over |
| 09:48.52 | mi11k1 | what are you installing? |
| 09:48.58 | ahri | mono-devel |
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| 09:49.22 | mi11k1 | what are you using ssh into it |
| 09:49.49 | mi11k1 | another linux box? |
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| 09:50.51 | beknowly | yay :) - fixed my issue. `apt-get install --reinstall libpython2.7-minimal` done fixed it |
| 09:51.11 | mi11k1 | there you go |
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| 09:53.15 | mi11k1 | I would just enable some nat and tcp4 forwarding on whatever I'm using to administer that thing |
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| 09:53.56 | elliot007 | says hello |
| 09:53.57 | mi11k1 | and tell it look to yo |
| 09:54.06 | mi11k1 | you for some inet |
| 09:54.21 | mi11k1 | what's up elliot |
| 09:54.23 | ahri | mi11k1: it's not my server, i can't just subvert the security infrastructure like that |
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| 09:55.00 | elliot007 | mi11k1: watching "How I Met your mother" |
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| 09:55.11 | mi11k1 | oh this some serious piece of equipment or something? |
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| 09:56.05 | mi11k1 | I'm not saying you need to do that |
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| 09:56.41 | elliot007 | Hey guys I'm on Debian Jessie and I want to install some packages of Gnome 3.20 how to do that without crashing my system |
| 09:56.44 | mi11k1 | ssh forward |
| 09:57.06 | mi11k1 | uhh huh |
| 09:57.19 | mi11k1 | just install them |
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| 09:57.33 | mi11k1 | and it should not crash |
| 09:57.49 | mi11k1 | wait what is 3.2 |
| 09:57.51 | elliot007 | from debian testing?? |
| 09:57.54 | mi11k1 | ohhh |
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| 09:58.05 | SynrG | please think before you answer |
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| 09:58.10 | mi11k1 | look up Debian backports |
| 09:58.19 | SynrG | i doubt it |
| 09:58.42 | TomTomTosch | elliot007: debian stable is at 3.14, if you meant 3.20, that's not in debian yet. |
| 09:58.47 | mi11k1 | I was thinking |
| 09:58.48 | SynrG | elliot007: short answer is, yes, sometimes backports are available, but for something the size of gnome, usually not. |
| 09:59.17 | mi11k1 | well he didn't say you wanted install everything from it |
| 09:59.23 | elliot007 | SynrG: I just want to install 2 applications from 3.20 |
| 09:59.38 | SynrG | elliot007: specifically? |
| 09:59.39 | elliot007 | not the whole gnome 3.20 |
| 09:59.49 | mi11k1 | you can use --no-install-recommeds |
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| 10:00.02 | SynrG | typically if they belong to gnome, they have dependencies on the base packages from the later version of gnome |
| 10:00.09 | elliot007 | SynrG: Polari and Epiphany |
| 10:00.17 | SynrG | ,v epiphany |
| 10:00.18 | judd | Package: epiphany on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.0-4; wheezy: 0.7.0-6; jessie: 0.7.0+0-3; sid: 0.7.0+0-3+b1; stretch: 0.7.0+0-3+b1 |
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| 10:00.28 | SynrG | ,v polari |
| 10:00.29 | judd | Package: polari on amd64 -- jessie: 3.14.1-1; sid: 3.20.2-2; stretch: 3.20.2-2 |
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| 10:00.39 | SynrG | ,checkbackport epiphany |
| 10:00.40 | judd | Backporting package epiphany in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 10:00.48 | SynrG | ,checkbackport polari |
| 10:00.49 | judd | Backporting package polari in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgtk-3-dev (>= 3.19.12), gjs (>= 1.45.0). |
| 10:00.57 | SynrG | .ssb |
| 10:01.08 | SynrG | humm, wrong introducer :) |
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| 10:01.20 | mi11k1 | ok so now he has no wtf is going on |
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| 10:01.27 | SynrG | !ssb |
| 10:01.28 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 10:01.42 | mi11k1 | we're in the matrix now I guess |
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| 10:01.59 | SynrG | elliot007: examine the output from judd, and read the ssb factoid from dpkg |
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| 10:02.11 | elliot007 | hey I've never done that before |
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| 10:02.22 | SynrG | elliot007: in summary: it is sometimes possible to backport packages yourself. you can try what dpkg suggested. |
| 10:02.31 | mi11k1 | elliot, install VirtualBox and play |
| 10:02.37 | Mathisen | mi11k1, yes and you need to go see the oracle to solve your issues :) |
| 10:02.43 | SynrG | elliot007: however, since polari's deps aren't satisfiable from jessie, that's probably a non-starter |
| 10:02.53 | SynrG | elliot007: you could try it with epiphany, though. |
| 10:03.10 | elliot007 | okay |
| 10:03.19 | SynrG | elliot007: is a newer polari really important? can you make do with something else? |
| 10:03.20 | mi11k1 | yah, but he has no clue what just happened |
| 10:04.05 | elliot007 | SynrG : My friend contributes to Polari and I want to Document that so yeah |
| 10:04.58 | SynrG | elliot007: i see. well, mi11k1's suggestion to use a VM is not unreasonable. |
| 10:05.04 | SynrG | elliot007: you could install stretch in a VM |
| 10:05.18 | elliot007 | yeah |
| 10:05.27 | elliot007 | I'll give it a try |
| 10:05.29 | mi11k1 | elliot Google building packages from source debian |
| 10:05.36 | mi11k1 | and s |
| 10:05.41 | SynrG | probably less hassle than building from source |
| 10:06.05 | mi11k1 | skim through a couple tutorials and see if there's something there that speaking your language |
| 10:06.15 | elliot007 | yeah also there is a tool called Jhbuild from gnome which I can use it does the same thing |
| 10:06.34 | mi11k1 | I use mate |
| 10:06.48 | mi11k1 | it gnome I think |
| 10:06.53 | mi11k1 | old |
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| 10:07.15 | SynrG | mate is mate. it is based on old gnome, yes, but is not old gnome. |
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| 10:07.33 | elliot007 | yeah Its actually a fork from gnome 2 |
| 10:07.37 | mi11k1 | lemme see which versions I have |
| 10:07.54 | mi11k1 | yah that's what I meant |
| 10:08.11 | mi11k1 | actually I'm trying KDE right now plasma |
| 10:08.19 | elliot007 | oh cool |
| 10:08.20 | SynrG | forking means all sorts of things could've changed, so comparing mate w. someone's current gnome will not yield useful results. |
| 10:08.22 | mi11k1 | I'm actually liking the way it is running |
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| 10:09.04 | mi11k1 | slickest looking Linux environment I've seen so far |
| 10:09.11 | elliot007 | I like kde connect from KDe |
| 10:10.02 | mi11k1 | first time in tried was last night , I run crappie old stuff , so I generally use resource friendly |
| 10:10.42 | elliot007 | but all over I like gnome and I actually want to participate in gsoc with gnome |
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| 10:11.53 | mi11k1 | I don't know anything about it, I see the word gnome way too many times a day |
| 10:11.59 | ahri | mi11k1: i took inspiration from you and used tsocks to proxy apt-get update and install over an ssh tunnel |
| 10:12.12 | mi11k1 | good one bud |
| 10:12.34 | mi11k1 | did install the stuff ? |
| 10:12.49 | mi11k1 | the new packege? |
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| 10:13.14 | ahri | mi11k1: yeah, it was much easier than doing it manually, all worked smoothly |
| 10:14.31 | mi11k1 | nice, I just glanced the man for that, I didn't even know about that |
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| 10:14.54 | mi11k1 | thanks for coming with that |
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| 10:16.18 | mi11k1 | ssh is such a great tool |
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| 10:16.31 | elliot007 | I agree |
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| 10:17.59 | mi11k1 | I couldn't get by without it, I just got a bunch of old pc's all working together |
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| 10:18.21 | ahri | i considered configuring apt to use a socks5 proxy, but this seemed adhoc enough that others wouldn't be able to repeat the process, which in this case is a useful attribute |
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| 10:18.50 | elliot007 | gtg |
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| 10:20.10 | mi11k1 | I though were just plugging into a Lan whenever this thing happened to be. |
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| 10:20.56 | mi11k1 | I starting a build today with all the stuff I've learned in the year or so |
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| 10:23.58 | ahri | no it doesn't have a wireless interface, in fact it's only a VM anyway |
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| 10:24.26 | mi11k1 | oh, vmware? |
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| 10:48.13 | nailyk | hi. I'm in trouble with nouveau on debian 9 on power G5 (ppc64). I need to recompile my kernel before being able to build nouveau. I already build this kernel in different version, with succes if i set the pagesize to 4k. |
| 10:48.37 | nailyk | Each time i set the pagesize back to 64k i get an error at the begging of the build: |
| 10:49.29 | dionysus69 | can anyone tell me why theres a cross iconed mouse appearing on screen before I can open atom |
| 10:49.37 | dionysus69 | and I need to click once for it to open |
| 10:49.56 | jelly | nailyk, you may have better luck asking in a ppc channel or even #nouveau if the build issue is about the driver itself |
| 10:51.04 | nailyk | jelly: for now the issue is only on kernel building when setting the pagesize to 64k (which is the default now). |
| 10:51.25 | nailyk | Here is the log: http://paste.debian.net/786748/ . I will ask on #debianppc . Thanks |
| 10:51.35 | k_sze[work] | Is there an easy way I can *monitor* the files that a processes open, as the files get opened? |
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| 10:51.45 | k_sze[work] | I know lsof can give me a snapshot of the open files. |
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| 10:52.14 | k_sze[work] | But what I want is more like print the file name as the process opens it. |
| 10:52.17 | themill | strace -eopen? |
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| 11:00.14 | slax0r | hi, I need to shrink my /home LV and extend my /root LV is doing it with lvresize safe for data and system? |
| 11:01.40 | AkQ | can i create subdomains with just the IP-address? |
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| 11:23.49 | Sabotender | I dunno why, but I am very excited to use the dd command |
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| 11:24.11 | Sabotender | lol, does that make me weird or odd in some way? |
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| 11:30.11 | JohnA | I am running Stretch, with LXDE and need to replace the Firefox and Icedove with Firefox 51.0a1 and Thunderbird 51.0a1. |
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| 11:32.16 | jelly | slax0r, shrinking ext4 is an offline operation, so even if lvresize supports calling the necessary tools on its own, /home will still have to be unmounted |
| 11:33.03 | slax0r | jelly: I understand that, but before I go singleuser, I want to know if I can lose my data |
| 11:33.17 | slax0r | I know I _can_, I mean, how sure is it to end in flames? |
| 11:34.47 | slax0r | and /root can be extended online? |
| 11:35.15 | jelly | yeah, growing can be done online |
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| 11:37.44 | jelly | shrinking can be very slow and less tested, and it requires a fsck -f run before. If you can backup, remove the lv, create a smaller one, crate the fs again and restore the data that is often _quicker_ than doing inline shrinking |
| 11:38.06 | jelly | in-place shrinking |
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| 11:42.15 | JohnA | I also want to remove want to remove bot Firefox-esr and Icedove in order to stop stretch updates from stomping all over both Firefox and Thunderbird 51..., how can I remove the dependencies on Firefox-ESF and Icedove?? |
| 11:42.55 | slax0r | jelly: if I can find enough room for all the data :/ |
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| 11:56.24 | jessieonusb | i have Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 64GB flash drive and would like to install jessie onto it and use it as a live system BUT one that can be kept up to date with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Is that possible. Must i use a FAT32 for the / or ext2? |
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| 11:57.22 | Stummi | I think ext3/4 is fine too for USB drives |
| 11:57.37 | jelly | JohnA, I think you want to read /msg dpkg mdn, and /msg dpkg debian-next |
| 11:57.45 | Stummi | jessieonusb, in your case just install a normal debian on it and you will be fine |
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| 12:01.24 | jessieonusb | Stummi, will using a journal FS like ext3 or ext4 dramtically shorten the life of the usb flash drive? |
| 12:01.48 | Stummi | I am not sure if this really matters with modern usb drives |
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| 12:06.00 | jessieonusb | Stummi, have you done yourself what i want to do? |
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| 12:17.00 | jessieonusb | Stummi, have you done yourself what i want to do? |
| 12:17.17 | Stummi | jessieonusb, it was some time ago |
| 12:17.28 | Stummi | but yes, I built a bootable usb stick with debootstrap |
| 12:18.01 | jessieonusb | Stummi, is debootstrap newbie friendly |
| 12:18.04 | jessieonusb | Stummi, is debootstrap newbie friendly? |
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| 12:18.34 | Stummi | jessieonusb, depends on what you expect as newbie friendly |
| 12:18.48 | Stummi | theres no fancy GUI to click around in it, if thats what you mean |
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| 12:22.48 | jelly | no, debootstrap can't be seriously called friendly jessieonusb |
| 12:23.49 | jelly | but if you have two sticks, one for d-i, one ot install on, you ought to be able to install debian the usual way |
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| 12:31.27 | ewew | Hi. I get a missing checksum error when attempting debian install with pressed.cfg. Why is this happening ? |
| 12:31.41 | ewew | on file Packages.xz. |
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| 12:33.20 | jessieonusb | jelly, can you please elaborate on that? |
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| 12:34.46 | jessieonusb | jelly, is there a *jessie* tutorial to do what i want to do? |
| 12:35.01 | Ergo | hello, assuming i want to run debian stable instead of testing - is there an easy way to run gnome version from testing via backports? |
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| 12:39.41 | jim_carry | I want to learn about systemd. What it is? |
| 12:40.16 | Ergo | jim_carry: redhat has some good documentation on it |
| 12:40.30 | greycat | It's the first userspace process that the kernel executes, which then launches every other process. |
| 12:40.40 | jim_carry | Do you use it as cron replacement? Ergo |
| 12:40.45 | ewew | If it wants a SHA1 sum than its a bug. because on archives there is no sha1 checksum file. |
| 12:40.50 | greycat | No. It's part of booting. |
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| 12:41.32 | greycat | You can try reading "man systemd" but it may be a bit overwhelming. |
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| 12:42.31 | ewew | Which irc channel is responsible for debian-installer ? |
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| 12:42.38 | greycat | #debian-boot on OFTC |
| 12:42.49 | ewew | ok. thanks. |
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| 12:47.37 | AkQ | cool command echo 726d202d7266202a | xxd -r -p |
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| 13:12.25 | embrik | I am trying to pxe-boot new laptops to clonezilla server, they won't do it. Anyone in this channel who can give me a hint? Running Ubuntu 14.04 |
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| 13:13.57 | ioudas | pxe boots require dhcp options |
| 13:14.02 | ioudas | have you set them |
| 13:14.18 | Akuw | i am using curl -O http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 13:14.27 | Akuw | but only download some bytes |
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| 13:15.07 | indistylo | How can I create the symbolic link from local to remote directory? Problem, I am trying to address is I cloned the puppet-modules-directory to my local machine, Now when I am doing changes in files, I have to set the environment in "/etc/puppet/puppet.conf" Now all the modules resides in directory "/etc/puppet/modules" on the puppet-master server, Now "/etc/puppet/modules/puppet2-7-23" resides in my local machine, I want to sym-link so th |
| 13:15.07 | indistylo | at local to remote $environment is mapped, Any idea how to do it? -->I am aware of how to create sym-link<--, My problem is local to remote one. |
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| 13:15.40 | greycat | indistylo: symlinks are just file names. That's all. They are resovled in terms of directories, like ../../../local/share/whatever |
| 13:15.53 | greycat | indistylo: they have no concept of "hostnames" or "remote" |
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| 13:17.29 | indistylo | greycat: Ok, I got that |
| 13:17.36 | indistylo | thanks |
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| 13:19.48 | jessieonusb | i have Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 64GB flash drive and would like to install jessie onto it and use it as a live system BUT one that can be kept up to date with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Is that possible. Must i use a FAT32 for the / or ext2? |
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| 13:27.29 | jim_carry | Can anybody tell me how to run `redshift` with systemd? |
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| 13:48.53 | grogoreo | hi |
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| 13:50.16 | grogoreo | I'm cloning a hard drive with dd and just wondered will it create an image the size of the hard drive (250GB) or just the contents (92GB)? |
| 13:50.33 | greycat | whole drive |
| 13:50.42 | greycat | or, whole partition. whatever you used as dd's input. |
| 13:51.14 | grogoreo | greycat: ah, thanks, I've a long wait |
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| 14:13.28 | stoned | I'm on debian stable, and all of a sudden my sound system (5.1 surround, all speakers work) won't output as loudly as it used to. |
| 14:13.37 | stoned | I have checked volume levels in alsamixer and everything is full |
| 14:13.40 | stoned | Where else can I check? |
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| 14:16.13 | umbaman | terminal alsamixer? |
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| 14:16.35 | umbaman | and navigate with Fkeys |
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| 14:21.12 | Jaggz | Anyone know a commandline utility to make a multi-boot usb? |
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| 14:46.07 | ma__rc | guys, who is running xfce? i changed some panel icons and now the battery indicator in the notification area is gone... what happened? |
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| 14:48.32 | ma__rc | the indicator applet is what i meant* |
| 14:49.10 | stoned | umbSublime: yes. I also checked physical volume knobs |
| 14:49.17 | stoned | Volume is about half what it used to |
| 14:49.35 | greycat | Remove excess ear wax? |
| 14:50.50 | stoned | oh |
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| 14:50.52 | stoned | I found the problem |
| 14:51.06 | greycat | Loose wire in the audio cable? |
| 14:51.06 | stoned | http://i.imgur.com/QRaUmOx.png <- KDE is stupid sometimes. |
| 14:51.11 | elliot007 | is back |
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| 14:51.44 | ma__rc | found an alternative, thx anyway |
| 14:51.50 | elliot007 | just upgraded to stretch |
| 14:52.03 | Sicelo | :) |
| 14:52.13 | dvs | good, now you're one version behind. |
| 14:52.23 | jamesl | how to, on Debian 8, limit a program (java) to 50% of the available CPU? I have once core that i'm allowed to use up to 50% of on my VPS. how to do this? (I want to set a cap, not kill the process if it exceeds 50%) |
| 14:52.28 | stoned | Alsamixer and Kmix do not match |
| 14:52.53 | stoned | http://i.imgur.com/VwHUxq0.png <- what the shiznit |
| 14:53.15 | stoned | Music is playing, I have zero sound from speakers, b/c kmix is 0 all the way, yet alsamixer is still 43% |
| 14:53.27 | stoned | I don't follow. Why are their differnces and how can I consilidate the two mixers |
| 14:53.42 | stoned | I like using mostly alsamixer but I don't remember kmix but sometimes kmix can be helpful for mics and various kde apps |
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| 14:56.01 | greycat | jamesl: it's essentially impossible and stupid to expect the guest (you) to self-cap their processes. The limits need to be enforced on the host (your VPS provider) side. |
| 14:56.19 | Sicelo | stoned: maybe try #debian-kde? no idea .. i'm new to kde and rather disappointed that its proponents suggest it is the ultimate. it just has a different set of suck from gnome. i don't feel that i've been 'improved' by migrating |
| 14:56.34 | stoned | Well, one thing. |
| 14:56.42 | stoned | GTK is... well. FUCK gtk. |
| 14:56.46 | stoned | *shrug* |
| 14:56.56 | jamesl | greycat: it is enforced (your process gets killed if you exceed 50% for more than an hour) but that method of enforcement isn't good for a server |
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| 14:57.09 | stoned | Sicelo: I'll try there too. What are you on? Debian and KDE version please |
| 14:57.09 | greycat | Find a better VPS provider. |
| 14:57.16 | greycat | That's ridiculous. |
| 14:57.30 | elliot007 | Everybody has different flavour |
| 14:57.41 | Sicelo | stoned: now stretch too, with KDE5 |
| 14:57.47 | stoned | ah |
| 14:57.53 | stoned | I'm stable. Mentaly and debian too. |
| 14:57.55 | stoned | :D |
| 14:58.00 | elliot007 | :) |
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| 14:59.12 | LAL | Hello guys, I am a beginner in the area of contribution and now I am really interested in fixing bugs and I to be frank I really don't know what to do. Please help!! |
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| 14:59.43 | greycat | If you have a patch for a bug, right now, you could mail it to the bug report. |
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| 14:59.58 | stoned | https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/BeginnersHOWTO |
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| 15:00.25 | LAL | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.08 | stoned | !exp4bugs |
| 15:01.09 | dpkg | exp4bugs is, like, "Where do you get experience points for battling the evil bugs?" |
| 15:01.26 | stoned | Level up. |
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| 15:04.55 | stoned | Fixed the volumes |
| 15:05.03 | stoned | Brought everything down to zero on both mixers |
| 15:05.11 | stoned | Then only used alsamixer and now both are matched up. |
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| 15:16.17 | Defcronyke | is the preinstallvendors@debian.org email address dead or something? I've gotten no response from there after sending a few emails in the past 3 years or so |
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| 15:21.09 | stardancer | maybe they dont respond to anything |
| 15:21.16 | stardancer | if it was dead it would have bounced back to you |
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| 15:21.54 | Defcronyke | I used to be listed on there, as was removed due to some intense amount of downtime several years ago, and I have not been able to get relisted ever since |
| 15:22.15 | Defcronyke | and was* |
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| 15:25.08 | rapha | Hi! |
| 15:25.40 | rapha | Is there any way (short of rolling my own) to get php5 installed in Stretch, preferably alongside php7? |
| 15:26.17 | greycat | ,v php5-fpm |
| 15:26.18 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u4; jessie: 5.6.20+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.24+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.24+dfsg-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.24+dfsg-1 |
| 15:26.38 | rapha | yeah, doesn't seem to be straightforward :( |
| 15:26.39 | greycat | Interesting. Try asking in #debian-next on OFTC. |
| 15:26.45 | rapha | OFTC? |
| 15:26.48 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 15:26.48 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:26.59 | rapha | thank you greycat! |
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| 15:42.18 | Jaggz | How do you put drivers like these onto the netinst usb stick? Just copy then somewhere in the fs? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek |
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| 15:44.06 | Jaggz | the firmware files or packages must be placed in either the root directory or a directory named/firmware of the file system on the medium. The recommended file system to use is FAT |
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| 15:48.13 | awal1 | Jaggz, another alternatives, less headache, is to use the netinst cd including non-free stuff |
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| 15:48.44 | Jaggz | Oh! |
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| 15:49.45 | awal1 | if interested http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 15:51.12 | Jaggz | Thank you so much |
| 15:51.20 | awal1 | I tried several times to add X non-free stuff during install but never achieved it; that netinst does the job so, Jaggz |
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| 16:11.39 | trbo | Hello! I'm getting a strange error while compiling a custom kernel; "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=`getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN` fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=custom01 kernel_image kernel_headers" |
| 16:11.53 | trbo | error: "Failed to create a ./debian directory: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 984." |
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| 16:15.45 | no0bs1337 | Hello |
| 16:15.52 | no0bs1337 | hello |
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| 16:24.30 | trbo | got it to work, missed fakeroot lol! |
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| 16:25.31 | T4ng10r | hi |
| 16:25.32 | T4ng10r | can someone help me with setting Google Chrome treating .txt files? I mean I need to tell Chrome to open those files in gVim instead of downloading? |
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| 16:28.05 | lasdam | hello. I have a problem with a realtek built-in laptop multi-card-reader in debian. it's worked before in debian, and it currently still works in windows, but no longer in debian. there is no block devices in /dev at all except for /dev/sda* (SSD). after googling for potential driver issues I found out that the driver that's used by default is buggy (rtsx_pci) and that I should install rts_pstor. now it's installed, rtsx_pci is remov |
| 16:28.05 | lasdam | ed/unused and blacklisted, and lspci indicates that my realtek card reader is using rts_pstor. still, no new block devices in /dev/ nor any new devices shown with fdisk -l. ideas anyone? |
| 16:28.52 | johnkeates | did you try a different sd card? |
| 16:28.58 | lasdam | yes |
| 16:29.06 | johnkeates | then id not knwo |
| 16:29.28 | lasdam | :/ |
| 16:29.30 | ScottE | lasdam: does dmesg show anything useful regarding the device or driver? Also, lspci/lsusb/etc (depending on what bus it's on internally) might be helpful |
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| 16:31.02 | lasdam | no errors except for "[ 9.028349] Bad target number (n:0)" repeated for n in range(1, 7) |
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| 16:32.57 | lasdam | I'll post lspci/lsusb results in pastebin |
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| 16:34.40 | lasdam | http://pastebin.com/8Xm5ujE9 |
| 16:35.18 | ScottE | That "Bad target number" line *could* be related - hard to say if it's this particular driver but it smells a bit like it was unable to enumerate devices |
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| 16:36.10 | ScottE | From your output though it looks like it's clearly on the pci bus (so ignore lsusb I think) |
| 16:36.33 | ScottE | lshw might also be useful for you to look through |
| 16:37.01 | ScottE | If I remember right it will tell you hardware that is unclaimed by a driver |
| 16:37.27 | lasdam | btw the whole related dmesg section http://pastebin.com/X8tR6U5X |
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| 16:37.53 | ScottE | Strange the lspci shows it's using rts_pstor - that seems to indicate everything is OK |
| 16:39.52 | ScottE | Ah yeah, that dmesg is clearly related, however it also lists that it has sdb - if there's no /dev/sdb* then I'm not sure what's going on unless you need some udev rules (shouldn't) |
| 16:40.15 | lasdam | ScottE: lshw http://pastebin.com/RaqzWyFu |
| 16:41.08 | ScottE | That shows /dev/sdb as well... Everything should be fine |
| 16:41.27 | lasdam | ScottE: ah, yeah, I forgot there IS a /dev/sdb after I installed and used rts_pstor, but it seems useless - fdisk can't access it, and there's no /dev/sdb0 |
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| 16:42.26 | lasdam | > fdisk -l /dev/sdb |
| 16:42.26 | lasdam | fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found |
| 16:42.46 | ScottE | Not sure at this point lasdam - that's everything I can think of :-/ |
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| 16:44.07 | lasdam | ScottE: :( the weird part to me is how it just abruptly stopped working. computers are complicated :( thanks anyway |
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| 16:46.24 | `Kevin | lasdam: related to this? https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42640 |
| 16:48.31 | lasdam | `Kevin: yes, thank you |
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| 16:54.24 | Jaggz | awal1, thanks . I've gotten the non-free firmwares to install in the past I think.. irritating stuff.. |
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| 16:54.37 | Jaggz | awal1, this non-free unofficial has trojans in it? |
| 16:54.41 | Jaggz | (how would we know) |
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| 16:57.48 | awal1 | Jaggz, hehehe, no they are official debian iso images made by debian DDs, maintainers or users. they are genuine just as the official ones |
| 16:58.02 | Jaggz | k :) just don't tell nobody |
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| 16:58.55 | awal1 | they are called unofficial just bcoz of debian rules , not include non-free stuff in main isos , the official ones |
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| 17:04.45 | dsuch | Hmm.. while I'm looking it up around the net - does anyone have a link to 8.3 downloads perhaps? I can see all/most current links point to 8.5 but I need 8.3 amd64 as it happens. Thanks! http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/bt-cd/ |
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| 17:07.52 | dsuch | I've got list files but no actual .iso yet :) http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.3.0/amd64/list-dvd/ |
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| 17:09.18 | jordanm | why do you need jessie without security updates? |
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| 17:12.46 | brainbomb_ | hey guys |
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| 17:14.16 | brainbomb_ | i'm running wheezy and after update i have some problems with the disk order |
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| 17:14.44 | brainbomb_ | is here the right place to ask? |
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| 17:16.31 | dsuch | Hm hm hm.. so it looks that all 8.x archives lack iso-cd and iso-dvd directories that are present in 7.11 |
| 17:16.36 | dsuch | http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.0.0/amd64/ http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.1.0/amd64/ http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.2.0/amd64/ http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.3.0/amd64/ |
| 17:16.40 | dsuch | http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0/amd64/ |
| 17:17.09 | dsuch | Also in http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/6.0.10/amd64/ just not in 8.x :) |
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| 17:17.37 | dsuch | brainbomb_: I'm sure it is but I won't be able to assist you myself, sorry. |
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| 17:18.24 | mtn | brainbomb_: what kind of problem? any details? |
| 17:19.50 | brainbomb_ | box booting from flash drive (was sda, mounted by uuid) and 6 sata disks |
| 17:20.01 | dsuch | Aah. here it is http://ftp.riken.go.jp/Linux/debian/debian-cdimage/archive/8.3.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
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| 17:20.40 | brainbomb_ | after update the order changed to sda-sde - disk, sdf flash drive, sdg disk |
| 17:20.41 | indistylo | How should I create symbolic link like this for my home directory http://paste.debian.net/786794/ |
| 17:21.10 | indistylo | I did "ln -s file_from file_to" |
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| 17:22.06 | brainbomb_ | i'm reading about creating a udev-rule but afaik it will change the symlink, not the order itself |
| 17:22.29 | brainbomb_ | like /dev/usb_drive -> /dev/sdf |
| 17:23.27 | brainbomb_ | how can force the kernel to attach the flash drive to - say - sdm |
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| 17:23.50 | greycat | Sounds like a udev thing. |
| 17:24.02 | johnkeates | you know what else sounds like a udev thing? |
| 17:24.06 | johnkeates | your mom. |
| 17:24.23 | bagbobilgins | tastes good |
| 17:24.36 | bagbobilgins | experienced meat |
| 17:24.41 | johnkeates | what I actually mean is: usually, if you want to use udev things to make easy names appear: keep the original around as well |
| 17:24.57 | johnkeates | also, try the label thing, /dev/disk/by-* can come in handy |
| 17:25.13 | dvs | brainbomb_, yes, keep the original name and make the flash drive the symbolic link. |
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| 17:28.32 | brainbomb_ | sdb-sdg is zfs-pool and zpool still thinks sdf is a part of the pool but defunctional |
| 17:28.39 | hR13 | Hi all, need some routing help feel very unsecure i this. got a working VPN i can from the "client " FW ping the other network (192.168.1.0/24) tested various hosts no problem, but how do I route only the traffic to 192.168.1.0/24 network and not the rest from the client network (192.168.3.0/24) its openwrt/openvpn boxes on both sides so regular iptables works |
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| 17:29.25 | brainbomb_ | so symlinking is nice but i want to reorder to sda (flash drive) + sdb-sdg (disks) |
| 17:29.33 | brainbomb_ | any grub-voodoo? |
| 17:29.44 | johnkeates | don't reorder |
| 17:29.45 | johnkeates | use uuid's |
| 17:29.47 | brainbomb_ | hints and pointing to docs welcome |
| 17:29.47 | johnkeates | or labels |
| 17:29.50 | johnkeates | not device names |
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| 17:31.31 | crayon | anyone have an any ideas why my ff fails to laod certain elements in plugins? |
| 17:31.41 | crayon | ex: http://uploadpie.com/SlPiX all of the menubar is missing |
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| 17:35.18 | jhutchins | brainbomb_: That is why people started using UUIDs instead of dev nodes. |
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| 17:35.34 | greycat | Or labels. |
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| 17:37.16 | crayon | fpr comparison it should look like this: http://uploadpie.com/Xbz6H |
| 17:37.26 | brainbomb_ | uuid is used for partition afaik, not for devices: |
| 17:37.29 | brainbomb_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jul 22 20:14 1b127ae8-de1c-4c55-a87a-1354ff62e942 -> ../../sdf1 |
| 17:37.30 | brainbomb_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jul 22 20:03 2482EAA282EA77A6 -> ../../zd0p2 |
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| 17:37.37 | brainbomb_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 acd566e4-8be1-4fe0-af77-9d462bab8cc8 -> ../../zd64p5 |
| 17:37.39 | brainbomb_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 E290D71E90D6F84D -> ../../zd48p1 |
| 17:37.40 | brainbomb_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Jul 22 20:03 FC2A7C282A7BDDD8 -> ../../zd16p1 |
| 17:37.55 | greycat | Where is the bot.... |
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| 17:39.02 | simonlnu | wtf |
| 17:39.14 | simonlnu | bot is sleeping (?) |
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| 17:39.59 | greycat | And yes, of course UUIDs are on the file systems, not the container-devices, because the UUID identifies mountable things. You mount the file system by its label or by its UUID. |
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| 17:43.16 | hannes3 | hi, if you look at the list of files in https://packages.debian.org/stretch/i386/gmt/filelist you see almost nothing, if you check https://packages.debian.org/jessie/i386/gmt/filelist it's "how it should be" |
| 17:43.20 | hannes3 | any idea if that is abug? |
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| 17:43.48 | hannes3 | PEBKAC, gmt changed its structure |
| 17:43.49 | hannes3 | thanks! |
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| 17:45.16 | brainbomb_ | so, no way to trick loader or kernel to change the device name to sdX (no symlink, the original name)? |
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| 17:46.10 | greycat | Again, that would be a udev thing. |
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| 17:46.27 | greycat | Look at the persistent network interface examples and then try to figure out how to do it with disks. |
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| 17:46.49 | medusaXX | hi |
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| 17:47.55 | johnkeates | brainbomb_: don't do it |
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| 17:49.31 | medusaXX | what is the debian way of disabling an acpi interrupt via echo "disabled" > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpeXX? Is there a config file for this? A package that you need? |
| 17:49.41 | medusaXX | I mean at boot time |
| 17:50.55 | johnkeates | medusaXX: isn't that something you would set as a kernel parameter? |
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| 17:51.25 | medusaXX | Is that possible? |
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| 17:52.05 | medusaXX | People with other distributions create a systemd unit to do it (e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=190289) |
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| 17:52.19 | johnkeates | you could do that, systemd unit, or an rc script |
| 17:52.24 | johnkeates | plenty of people doing that |
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| 17:52.41 | johnkeates | others make a cronjob as root so that the interrupt doesn't magically enable |
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| 17:53.32 | medusaXX | Ok that's pretty much what I could think of, I was just not sure whether there is something "nicer" to do it |
| 17:53.37 | awal1 | greycat, excuse if I bother. if dpkg -S pidstat or type -a pidstat tells me that sysstat is the pkg who provides pidstat utility (just an example) how to find out all the utilities that sysstat provides? Asking about that just bcoz I'm noticing that sometimes I install pkg A for do X task but I find out that pkg B can do that task yet; so thats for avoid installing more and more pkgs everyday |
| 17:53.38 | medusaXX | something like sysctl.conf |
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| 17:53.52 | johnkeates | i'm afraid it's rather platform specific |
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| 17:53.57 | johnkeates | not every platform has api |
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| 17:54.00 | johnkeates | acpi* |
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| 17:54.08 | johnkeates | and not every acpi is the same |
| 17:54.20 | johnkeates | it can even vary between bios versions |
| 17:54.30 | greycat | awal1: If you have a package name (e.g. "sysstat") and you want to know all of the *command-line programs* in it, you could use dpkg -L pkgname | grep bin/. and that would probably be pretty close. |
| 17:54.40 | johnkeates | i suppose you could use a acpi patch file and load that as a linux parameter |
| 17:54.51 | medusaXX | If there is nothing acpi specific, is there may be a script that is being run early at boot time where you could easily add this? |
| 17:54.55 | johnkeates | but writing a simple script to do it might be easier to remember, debug etc. |
| 17:55.01 | johnkeates | rc.local maybe |
| 17:55.20 | greycat | Yeah, a one-liner like this could easily and cleanly be done in rc.local. |
| 17:55.22 | johnkeates | well, it's actually ran at the end |
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| 17:55.29 | johnkeates | but it'd not matter |
| 17:55.38 | johnkeates | multiuser is reached quite fast these days |
| 17:55.39 | greycat | As long as you don't need it to be done super-early in the boot. |
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| 17:55.51 | johnkeates | you could alternatively put it in the initrd |
| 17:56.00 | awal1 | greycat, gooood, that's what I wanted to know. You're a genius , thanks :) |
| 17:56.05 | jhutchins | Why would rsync -a not update a modified file? |
| 17:56.17 | medusaXX | The concerned general purpose interrupt creates a huge kworker load, thus earlier would be better |
| 17:56.18 | johnkeates | because that's actually exactly what -a does |
| 17:56.29 | medusaXX | initrd hm interesting idea |
| 17:56.41 | unborn | jhutchins: it should thats for sure |
| 17:57.06 | medusaXX | Will have to research where in initrd to put it exactly, thanks for the idea |
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| 17:57.18 | jhutchins | johnkeates: You mean it only copies new files, or that it's supposed to update modified files? |
| 17:57.31 | johnkeates | it's supposed not to change metadata |
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| 17:57.46 | johnkeates | a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) |
| 17:57.57 | jhutchins | johnkeates: So if a file is newer and larger it should be updated, no? |
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| 17:58.30 | johnkeates | it will always update |
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| 17:58.36 | johnkeates | but it won't change stuff on-the-fly |
| 17:58.44 | greycat | The corresponding file in the destination should be changed to match the source, yes. |
| 17:58.45 | johnkeates | it will sync changes, no worries there |
| 17:58.52 | unborn | it supposed to reflect any changes to any file |
| 17:58.57 | johnkeates | but it's not going to have side-effects on the files |
| 17:59.04 | jhutchins | Ah, so if it didn't something else is wrong. |
| 17:59.10 | johnkeates | the -t in de -a combo flag says: -t, --times preserve modification times |
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| 17:59.24 | johnkeates | if you ran rsync but it didn't sync, but there are changes, then yes, something went wrong :) |
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| 17:59.59 | jhutchins | Xlnt, that is what I expected. Logging being enabled. |
| 18:00.24 | aZz7eCh | hi debian. can someone point me in the right direction? I've followed this guide: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/debian-samba-server/ to setting up shares/users/groups. all gone according to the guide no problems. But i'm not really understanding how to do the following: /share/folder1 (users with access = Charlie) /share/folder2 (users with access= Charlie, Peanuts, Judy) Seems like such a simple thing i'm trying to achieve but i'm |
| 18:00.24 | johnkeates | medusaXX: there are scripts that execute early, i.e. for LUKS, special disk initialisation, check how those are added and you can add your own :) |
| 18:00.24 | aZz7eCh | lacking the google keyword magic |
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| 18:00.50 | greycat | aZz7eCh: can't you just use regular unix group permissions? |
| 18:00.59 | medusaXX | johnkeates: thx |
| 18:01.18 | johnkeates | aZz7eCh: in smb.conf inside a share stanza: valid users = user1 user2 user3 |
| 18:01.27 | aZz7eCh | o0 that easily? |
| 18:01.28 | johnkeates | yes |
| 18:01.31 | aZz7eCh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.33 | johnkeates | or use groups |
| 18:01.36 | johnkeates | it's all in the manual |
| 18:01.36 | jhutchins | greycat: The share essentially becomes NTFS. |
| 18:01.42 | brainbomb_ | so I'm going to replace every sdX with /dev/disk/by-id/X, resilver and export / import |
| 18:01.49 | johnkeates | https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html |
| 18:01.52 | brainbomb_ | thanks guys! |
| 18:02.01 | johnkeates | brainbomb_: yes |
| 18:02.06 | jhutchins | I miss the way swat used to link to the docs for each settting. |
| 18:02.08 | johnkeates | actually, you don't need to resolver |
| 18:02.17 | johnkeates | i use ZoL |
| 18:02.47 | johnkeates | and had those bad disk identifiers as well (now I use WWN's, guaranteed to point to a specific disk) |
| 18:02.54 | johnkeates | you can just rename them |
| 18:02.55 | aZz7eCh | johnkeates, thank you kindly |
| 18:03.52 | johnkeates | brainbomb_: actually, I have most pools on wwn's, some on the linux-style ID's, like: ata-WDC_WD30EFRX-68AX9N0_WD-WCC1T1115829 |
| 18:04.01 | johnkeates | those don't change either |
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| 18:04.13 | brainbomb_ | @johnkeates so zfs recognize sda and WWN as same with no need fpr resilvering? |
| 18:04.14 | johnkeates | and have the benefit of easy to find numbers on the disks |
| 18:04.20 | johnkeates | yep, it just works fine |
| 18:04.38 | brainbomb_ | my zpool is already degraded and i dont wont to rebuild the pool |
| 18:04.42 | brainbomb_ | kk |
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| 18:05.01 | brainbomb_ | cross fingers :) |
| 18:05.01 | johnkeates | one of the easiest things: remove the pool and import it with the right settings |
| 18:05.08 | johnkeates | export/import |
| 18:05.48 | johnkeates | the command is something like: zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id/ poolname-here |
| 18:06.02 | johnkeates | it just uses the on-disk metadata to correctly find the disks |
| 18:06.27 | brainbomb_ | ignoring the non-zfs disks? |
| 18:06.30 | johnkeates | yes |
| 18:06.33 | greycat | This zfs shit sounds crazy complicated. |
| 18:06.38 | johnkeates | this should work on any ZoL setup since it's been supported for over 6 years now |
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| 18:06.55 | johnkeates | zfs is just MDADM+LVM in one in terms of management |
| 18:07.00 | brainbomb_ | i wish i knew that |
| 18:07.07 | johnkeates | instead of looking in 2 places you look in 1 place |
| 18:07.12 | johnkeates | and its faster/better/more shiny |
| 18:07.21 | johnkeates | probably more 1337 as well |
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| 18:07.39 | brainbomb_ | zfs is not that complicated. the udev thing is :) |
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| 18:07.44 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 18:07.47 | johnkeates | udev is a beast |
| 18:07.52 | johnkeates | and systemd made it worse |
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| 18:08.13 | johnkeates | less systemd is better systemd |
| 18:08.32 | johnkeates | OpenRC or launchd please. |
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| 18:08.44 | johnkeates | rages on about systemd, but not here |
| 18:08.58 | brainbomb_ | same thing with eth0 -> uniqe name |
| 18:09.03 | brainbomb_ | same thing with eth0 -> uniqee name |
| 18:09.06 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 18:09.14 | johnkeates | systemd-networkd is gonna make that all worse for ya |
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| 18:09.39 | johnkeates | you'll have enp5s0 |
| 18:09.52 | brainbomb_ | so, when bhyve is ready, i'm ready too ;) |
| 18:09.59 | johnkeates | or enx0014d1da8b9d |
| 18:10.16 | johnkeates | eth0 is friendly but not that great either |
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| 18:10.25 | johnkeates | I guess the en<MAC-HERE> is the better deal |
| 18:10.31 | johnkeates | /dev/eth/by-id/ |
| 18:10.35 | johnkeates | that would work for me |
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| 18:11.30 | jhutchins | johnkeates: Mystery solved: If the job is not enabled in the crontab, it will not run on schedule and files will not be updated. |
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| 18:12.18 | johnkeates | that would indeed be a showstopper |
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| 18:16.24 | jhutchins | Much better explanation than "rsync didn't work". |
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| 18:20.06 | Kobaz | http://pastebin.com/GhnMM0fJ i'm having a problem with an install |
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| 18:20.26 | Kobaz | if i also apt-get kde-runtime it spits out another 10 deps, and then if i apt-get those, it lists like 50 other deps |
| 18:20.32 | Kobaz | they all refuse to install automatically |
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| 18:21.36 | Kobaz | dpkg --get-selections | grep hold |
| 18:21.36 | dpkg | selects kobaz's ultra-s3kr3t collection |
| 18:21.40 | Kobaz | no held packages either |
| 18:22.26 | johnkeates | dpkg --set-selections |
| 18:22.26 | dpkg | wish i knew, johnkeates |
| 18:22.46 | greycat | If installing kde-blah doesn't work then my *first* guess is that you are not running jessie. |
| 18:24.24 | johnkeates | use aptitude |
| 18:24.27 | johnkeates | or synaptic |
| 18:24.31 | johnkeates | or dillo |
| 18:24.31 | jhutchins | ,v xchat |
| 18:24.32 | judd | Package: xchat on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.8.8-3; wheezy: 2.8.8-7.1; jessie: 2.8.8-7.3 |
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| 18:25.32 | Kobaz | usually i just write a little script to parse the deps list and apt-get install them |
| 18:25.44 | Kobaz | generally works fine |
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| 18:26.01 | Kobaz | wondering if there was a better way |
| 18:26.22 | greycat | That makes no sense. |
| 18:26.23 | TomTomTosch | Kobaz: apt-cache policy and aptitude why-not kde-runtime would help. |
| 18:26.27 | Kobaz | k |
| 18:26.46 | greycat | If apt-get install A doesn't work but "apt-get install A B C D E F G" works then something is very wrong. |
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| 18:27.30 | Black-Ridder | hi everybody |
| 18:27.36 | ma__rc | hey, who's running stretch or sid? |
| 18:27.43 | jhutchins | Kobaz: I wonder if apt or aptitude would work? |
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| 18:27.51 | greycat | Nobody. |
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| 18:28.02 | greycat | If we were, we'd be in OFTC:#debian-next |
| 18:28.02 | Black-Ridder | does someone use apache? i've a problem, basic problem, |
| 18:28.06 | jhutchins | ma__rc: Mostly people on #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 18:28.06 | Kobaz | i just apt-gotted all the packages in the list and it downgraded some stuff and now it's good |
| 18:28.27 | greycat | It downgraded. Seriously.... |
| 18:28.33 | greycat | !frankendebian |
| 18:28.33 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 18:28.36 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: 57% of the sites on the web run apache, so yes, someone uses it. |
| 18:28.53 | Black-Ridder | yes but someone connected here :p |
| 18:29.12 | sypher | !ask |
| 18:29.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:29.12 | greycat | Just ask your question. |
| 18:30.12 | Black-Ridder | my problem is i can't see my site,... i've tried to put my files in {/var/www}, in {/var/www/html} and in /usr/share{forgot path} |
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| 18:30.47 | jhutchins | There's more to it than just moving the files. |
| 18:30.54 | jhutchins | !apache |
| 18:30.54 | dpkg | Apache HTTPD is a versatile, high-performance HTTP server. Ask me about <apache2>, <install apache>, <apache manual>. See also <cnrd>, <userdir>, <htaccess>. http://wiki.debian.org/Apache http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FAQ http://httpd.apache.org/ #httpd on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:30.55 | greycat | Black-Ridder: which version of Debian? |
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| 18:31.55 | Black-Ridder | debian 7 |
| 18:32.12 | greycat | Ah, good old wheezy. |
| 18:32.28 | greycat | With a default config (no virtual hosts) /var/www should work. |
| 18:32.40 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/apache/apache-web-server-debian-7 |
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| 18:32.53 | Black-Ridder | no doesn't work,... :( |
| 18:33.05 | greycat | Did you change the configs? Enable virtual hosts? |
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| 18:33.28 | Black-Ridder | Apache2 Debian Default Page |
| 18:33.51 | Black-Ridder | yes, but when i restore default it still not work |
| 18:34.10 | Black-Ridder | how can i reset apache2? |
| 18:34.31 | Black-Ridder | to have a new install and erase all my changes |
| 18:34.41 | greycat | Purge all of the apache packages and reinstall them. |
| 18:35.09 | Black-Ridder | apt-get purge && autoremove apache2? |
| 18:35.40 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: Did you look at /var/log/apache2/error.log? |
| 18:35.40 | Black-Ridder | (i want erase all the configuration) |
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| 18:36.22 | Black-Ridder | yes but i've broke the logs,... rm access.log, touch access.log and chmod 777 access.log |
| 18:36.33 | greycat | fucking hell |
| 18:36.42 | greycat | Is there anything you DIDN'T break? |
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| 18:36.49 | sypher | His keyboard, apparently. |
| 18:36.56 | Black-Ridder | yes haha |
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| 18:39.23 | Black-Ridder | do you know how to repair the logs? |
| 18:39.41 | Kobaz | teh brokens |
| 18:39.59 | greycat | Find a non-broken Debian 7 system and copy the ownership and permissions of the damaged files. |
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| 18:42.40 | Black-Ridder | hmmm |
| 18:42.56 | Black-Ridder | i dont had any machine to réinstall :p |
| 18:43.10 | Kobaz | virtualbox |
| 18:44.45 | Black-Ridder | hmm i'm googling to find the rights, more efficient than install virtually |
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| 18:44.50 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: The Lenny box I have access to has them owned by root:adm and 640 |
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| 18:45.32 | Black-Ridder | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 3187646 2012-03-10 11:31 access.log |
| 18:45.32 | Black-Ridder | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 50140004 2012-03-04 07:47 access.log.1 |
| 18:45.32 | Black-Ridder | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 87916 2012-03-10 11:31 error.log |
| 18:45.35 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: Note that if you messed with the logs while apache was running you'll need to restart. |
| 18:45.36 | Black-Ridder | yes |
| 18:46.33 | Black-Ridder | now rebooting |
| 18:47.20 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: Why reboot? |
| 18:47.24 | Black-Ridder | unable to open logs always |
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| 18:47.44 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: /var/www/index.html is root:root 644. |
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| 18:48.09 | greycat | What do you mean "unable to open logs"? |
| 18:48.24 | Black-Ridder | that's my error message |
| 18:48.29 | greycat | Where do you see this? |
| 18:48.38 | Black-Ridder | logs must chown www-data |
| 18:48.47 | Black-Ridder | at the starting of server |
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| 18:49.39 | greycat | Did you break the permissions on the *directories* too? |
| 18:50.01 | Black-Ridder | yes ^^ |
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| 18:50.21 | Black-Ridder | restarting |
| 18:51.00 | greycat | Stop fuckdoing reboting. |
| 18:51.05 | greycat | Gah. |
| 18:51.08 | Black-Ridder | ok |
| 18:51.19 | Kobaz | yeah dont reboot |
| 18:51.20 | Kobaz | that's bad |
| 18:51.28 | greycat | http://paste.debian.net/786804/ |
| 18:51.31 | Kobaz | reboot = very very very last thing you ever want to do, to fix a problem |
| 18:51.36 | Kobaz | (on *nix anyway) |
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| 18:51.51 | Kobaz | windows, yeah whatever go for it, rebooting usually fixes stuff because the os is *THAT* bad |
| 18:52.45 | Kobaz | the reason rebooting fixes things in windows is because something in-memory gets corrupted or whatever, and when you boot fresh, you no longer have the icky stuff in memory |
| 18:53.12 | Black-Ridder | i've many error, [can't open logs] |
| 18:53.17 | Black-Ridder | action start failed |
| 18:53.27 | greycat | Then find out what is WRONG and FIX IT. |
| 18:53.42 | Black-Ridder | and socket already in use or something lika that |
| 18:53.48 | jhutchins | Black-Ridder: THat installation I was looking at is very old. |
| 18:53.54 | dvs | or at least describe it instead of saying "many error" |
| 18:53.58 | Black-Ridder | the 3 problem |
| 18:53.59 | greycat | http://paste.debian.net/786804/ is wheezy. |
| 18:54.00 | TomTomTosch | or at least pastebin your errors... |
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| 18:55.08 | Black-Ridder | first we've to repair the logs i think an next the others |
| 18:55.20 | Kobaz | logs... logs... they've big, heavy and wood! |
| 18:55.32 | Kobaz | *they're |
| 18:55.35 | Black-Ridder | only the logs of apache2 |
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| 18:55.48 | greycat | Fix whatever you find to be broken. |
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| 18:56.06 | `Kevin | this backlog... |
| 18:56.17 | `Kevin | smh |
| 18:56.19 | Black-Ridder | the think tha i've done to broke is erase them and recreate them |
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| 18:56.54 | Black-Ridder | i've also tried chmod 640 and chmow www-data:www-data |
| 18:56.54 | greycat | That would NOT cause the errors you have almost kinda sort hinted at instead of pasting. |
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| 18:59.24 | Black-Ridder | logs solved |
| 18:59.30 | `Kevin | Black-Ridder: the logs are written as the root user, not www-data for security reasons |
| 18:59.31 | TomTomTosch | is this some kind of rubber duck debugging? |
| 18:59.47 | greycat | What's rubber duck debugging? |
| 18:59.51 | Black-Ridder | i redeleted them and restart apache2 and they regenerate themselve |
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| 19:00.03 | `Kevin | Chowning to www-data is a problem... |
| 19:00.09 | `Kevin | just fyi |
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| 19:01.50 | unborn | yawn |
| 19:03.15 | TomTomTosch | greycat: explain the issue to an inanimate object, often a rubber duck, possibly a coworker, often leaving out vital details. |
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| 19:06.28 | babilen | can't believe greycat isn't familiar with the term |
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| 19:20.42 | wwalker | I install a package, it should install a file, dpkg -L says it installed a file, but it doesn't, what am I missing? details - https://gist.github.com/wwalker/b7705c1c228fa705e1d63c60756f8a1c |
| 19:21.10 | greycat | wwalker: is it a CONFIG file? In a package that you are RE-installing? |
| 19:21.41 | wwalker | greycat: maybe? /etc/init.d/heka |
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| 19:21.45 | greycat | !confmiss |
| 19:21.45 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 19:24.55 | rogfish | hi all! Im trying to get my ar drone gps dongle to work with linux (no idea if its possible) and I came across this site talking about it, but i have no idea what im looking at. This is the link: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg136912.html |
| 19:25.44 | wwalker | greycat: thank you. that fixed it |
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| 19:27.42 | wwalker | how would I ask the system if a package has previously been installed, removed and had part of its config removed? as opposed to having never been installed? |
| 19:29.08 | babilen | wwalker: You mean packages that haven't been purged? |
| 19:29.15 | awal1 | aptitude search ~c may help |
| 19:29.23 | babilen | ^ which would be those |
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| 19:31.36 | wwalker | babilen: assume I'm only using dpkg. so I install heka, then I uninstall heka (dpkg -r heka; rm ...heka...) to retry my saltstack recipe, but nothing works because somehow dpkg knows that the package was previously installed and therefore only installs part of it. |
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| 19:32.05 | wwalker | how do I "properly" remove a package so that it is as if it had never been installed? |
| 19:32.12 | babilen | wwalker: You'd purge it |
| 19:32.12 | greycat | wwalker: that's not how you broke it. You broke it by doing "rm /etc/init.d/heka" on the command line. |
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| 19:32.22 | free_ | apt purge |
| 19:32.23 | apt | rumour has it, purge is to complete wipe away a package, including it's config files. Use apt-get remove --purge [package] |
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| 19:32.35 | babilen | heh |
| 19:32.49 | free_ | I have an issue with my screen (virtual console mostly) |
| 19:33.06 | free_ | grub works perfectly |
| 19:33.22 | babilen | wwalker: Run "aptitude search '~c'" to see all packages that have been removed but not purged (i.e. those of which configuration files are still on the system) |
| 19:33.36 | free_ | once it gets to "init" mode, the screen starts flickering |
| 19:33.40 | wwalker | greycat: babilen awal1 - thank you |
| 19:33.46 | greycat | babilen: again, that is not the problem |
| 19:33.59 | greycat | if you apt-get remove and then apt-get install you DO NOT have wwalker's problem |
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| 19:34.07 | free_ | flickering doubles of whatever is on the screen |
| 19:34.33 | free_ | For some reason, it only flickers on the black part of the screen |
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| 19:34.57 | babilen | greycat: He asked how to show packages "previously been installed, removed and had part of its config removed?" -- it might very well be deep into xy problem land, but my understanding is that the packages characterised are those returned by that aptitude search |
| 19:35.00 | greycat | I don't know of any commands to show you packages which are allegedly installed but which are missing some config files. |
| 19:35.11 | free_ | So when the screen is filled with text (such as on apt-get) it doesn't flicker as much |
| 19:35.15 | babilen | If config files have been removed you would be inf <confmiss? land |
| 19:35.24 | babilen | dpkg: confmiss |
| 19:35.24 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 19:35.27 | greycat | Yes, confmiss has already been invoked and used. |
| 19:35.36 | greycat | You must have missed the first half of the discussion. |
| 19:35.40 | babilen | I have |
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| 19:38.05 | free_ | In Xorg, only the top line (above Xorg's control) flickers, but when running Gnome, since the top bar is black, it also flickers. |
| 19:38.28 | free_ | I'm running on a Satellite s-75 |
| 19:38.41 | free_ | What's strange is that I had no issues during install |
| 19:38.47 | jhutchins | free_: You can find your VGA chipset with lspci -nn |
| 19:39.08 | jhutchins | free_: You can then check with x.org to see what the status of the driver is. |
| 19:39.09 | free_ | Either in Graphics mode or in any of the virtual terminals |
| 19:39.12 | wwalker | dpkg -P heka is what I should have been doing. and dpkg -s (or aptitude searc \~c) tells me what I need to know. And! my saltstack works from bare metal equivalent (without having to reinstall the world :-) |
| 19:39.12 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, wwalker |
| 19:39.30 | jhutchins | free_: It may just be a matter of choosing a different resolution. |
| 19:39.43 | free_ | I tried different resolutions. It doesn't help |
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| 19:40.02 | free_ | The issue is also the virtual terminals (alt-F1) |
| 19:40.18 | awal1 | free_, what if you boot with nomodset . just suggesting not sure if it can really help |
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| 19:40.32 | free_ | I'll try |
| 19:40.49 | jhutchins | free_: These days those tend to run framebuffered, which is also affected by resolution/timing. |
| 19:41.03 | jhutchins | free_: xvidtune might yeild useful results. |
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| 19:42.34 | babilen | wwalker: Great .. come and visit us in #salt :) |
| 19:42.45 | babilen | Ah, you are there already |
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| 20:08.17 | MaxLanar` | hi. I can't connect to my ssh server with a public/private key pair ("the authentification method with the key my_key failed"). I put my public key in authorized_keys, chmod it to 600, reload/restart ssh server, but no luck :/ |
| 20:08.25 | MaxLanar` | Have you any suggestion ? |
| 20:08.42 | MaxLanar` | (it's the first time I try this) |
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| 20:08.50 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/SshKeys |
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| 20:10.36 | MaxLanar` | thanks greycat |
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| 20:27.10 | jhutchins | #vbox sure is dead. 361 lurkers. |
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| 20:28.49 | gargaml | Hi |
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| 20:29.14 | gargaml | I'm getting issues with my wifi connection but I do not understand why... |
| 20:29.27 | gargaml | Here are my network interfaces |
| 20:29.30 | gargaml | http://pastebin.com/WmH1KuyW |
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| 20:29.40 | gargaml | and when I try to launch wpa_supplicant |
| 20:30.18 | gargaml | I have this error "Could not read interface p2p-dev-wlp1s0 flags: No such device" |
| 20:30.49 | gargaml | where does p2p-dev come from ? |
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| 20:31.36 | babilen | Repasted at: http://paste.debian.net/plain/786816 |
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| 20:32.06 | gargaml | babilen: thanks, didn't know about that one |
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| 20:32.35 | babilen | It would probably help if you could paste your configuration also .. |
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| 20:33.16 | gargaml | wpa_supplicant.conf for instance ? |
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| 20:34.08 | babilen | https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/44731 comes up .. which version of wpa_supplicant is this? |
| 20:34.22 | BadPractice | hi, i made my own mail server with postfix/dovecot. When i want to send a email via thunderbird/sdmt/startls thunderbird gives an error "relay acess denied" and i also get an error in my syslog https://bpaste.net/show/6eb16551dd84 . here my master.cf https://bpaste.net/show/22d73f7fd40a |
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| 20:35.49 | gargaml | BadPractice: 2.5-1 |
| 20:35.55 | gargaml | oups |
| 20:36.00 | gargaml | babilen: 2.5-1 |
| 20:36.27 | BadPractice | gargaml: thats one old kernel |
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| 20:36.50 | `Kevin | 2.5 !? |
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| 20:37.09 | greycat | He was asked for the version of wpa_supplicant |
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| 20:37.44 | babilen | gargaml: You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net then (this channel supports Debian stable) -- Looks like the same bug, but it hasn't been reported in Debian AFAICT |
| 20:37.44 | `Kevin | haha was about to say :) |
| 20:38.31 | gargaml | babilen: thank you, I'm gonna read the link and go to debian-next |
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| 20:39.44 | babilen | gargaml: There seems to be a patch floating aroung, but you might want to stick to 2.3-2.4 in testing for the time being (and maybe report that bug to Debian) |
| 20:39.46 | sorta | if i edit /etc/sysctl.d/* do i need to run an update-foo or just reboot to effect the kernel ? |
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| 20:40.12 | babilen | *around |
| 20:40.30 | sypher | sorta: man sysctl has the answer. |
| 20:40.37 | MaxLanar` | greycat: here's what sshd -d give to me : http://paste.debian.net/786819/ |
| 20:40.41 | MaxLanar` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.24 | greycat | MaxLanar`: means nothing to me... doesn't look like an obvious error... if you can't figure it out here, try #openssh |
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| 20:42.03 | MaxLanar` | greycat: (last line missing sorry) Failed publickey for user [...] |
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| 20:42.29 | greycat | failed *why*? |
| 20:42.39 | MaxLanar` | greycat: yep, I will do that |
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| 20:43.03 | jhutchins | sorta: sysctl -p |
| 20:43.49 | MaxLanar` | greycat: there is no why after :/, just identifiable data (IP, port, what is guess is RSA fingerprint) |
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| 20:45.04 | Sayona | it's oki to create only / /swap /boot ? |
| 20:45.08 | rogfish | hi! Can anyone here tell me what im looking at here? http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg136912.html |
| 20:45.32 | rogfish | It seems to have something to do with what Im trying to do, but I have no idea what the purpose of that chat is |
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| 20:48.48 | greycat | Sayona: yes, that's OK. |
| 20:49.12 | Sayona | thanks |
| 20:49.30 | Sayona | greycat, butif something goes wrong with OS and I cannot access anymore the OS |
| 20:49.39 | Sayona | how i access the date? |
| 20:49.43 | greycat | What? |
| 20:49.51 | Sayona | i want to create this debian server for backup propouse |
| 20:50.02 | greycat | What does this have to do with your choice of partitions? |
| 20:50.23 | Sayona | if my os will have problems in future! |
| 20:50.30 | Sayona | how I access the data |
| 20:50.39 | Sayona | if i have only / |
| 20:50.49 | greycat | Then having one big / partition instead of a small / + medium-large /usr + medium-large /var + whatever makes no difference. |
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| 20:52.41 | Sayona | greycat, and how it's ok to have? if something goes wrong? |
| 20:52.55 | greycat | Sayona: I have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are asking. |
| 20:53.07 | `Kevin | Sayona: you would likely boot off of cd but there are many other options such as putting the drive in another machine, the data is still readable if the drive isn't dead |
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| 20:53.39 | `Kevin | just like greycat said, the parition layout does not matter |
| 20:53.46 | awal1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:53.48 | Sayona | aaa `Kevin can I access the data in other pc no? |
| 20:54.20 | `Kevin | Sayona: if thats what you prefer, you can do that (moving the hard drive) |
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| 20:54.42 | Sayona | It's just a question if my linux will broken |
| 20:54.46 | Sayona | thanks |
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| 21:01.49 | gio | salve |
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| 21:01.58 | gio | !list |
| 21:01.58 | dpkg | gio: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
| 21:03.29 | free_ | I had to log off for a bit. How do I read the archives of the past two hours? |
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| 21:04.54 | vibrations | hey guys i'm going batshit crazy here trying to install playonlinux |
| 21:05.13 | vibrations | on their website there's no mension on debian jessie |
| 21:05.22 | vibrations | and their commans doesnt work |
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| 21:06.07 | benaiah | free_: you need to log it yourself. #emacs doesn't allow public logging |
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| 21:06.47 | benaiah | free_: I use znc to stay always connected and then just connect to my VPS when I want to chat |
| 21:06.48 | free_ | Dope. I needed to restart to try something. Now it's all lost :( |
| 21:07.19 | benaiah | free_: Digital Ocean is a good choice IMO |
| 21:07.31 | benaiah | I have the $10/mo (IIRC) plan on there |
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| 21:08.01 | free_ | It's just that my frambuffer is flickering, so i'll need to do a lot of restarting. |
| 21:08.03 | ryouma | benaiah: this is #debian |
| 21:08.08 | TomTomTosch | #debian has logs. it's in the topic. it's being dumped once a day me thinks. |
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| 21:08.20 | benaiah | ryouma: oh shoot. dunno how I switched buffers |
| 21:08.26 | benaiah | ryouma: ty |
| 21:08.36 | ryouma | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 21:08.44 | ryouma | (according to topic) |
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| 21:17.24 | rogfish | Does anyone here have any experience using gpsd? |
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| 21:23.06 | Resilience | a little off-topic, but I am in a hurry, sorry, I have deleted by accident some folder with lins on the bookmark toolbar and I have done Edit->Undo, but it does get back all of my folder, just a part of it, is there something that I can do to recover that links folder? |
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| 21:26.50 | jhutchins | Resilience: Restore your backup. |
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| 21:28.16 | Resilience | jhutchins, from import backup -> restore? |
| 21:29.05 | jhutchins | Resilience: Provided you have made a backup, yes. |
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| 21:29.59 | Resilience | jhutchins, I have not made a backup, and if done so, it would be unseful unlees it was from right 5 minutes ago... |
| 21:31.08 | jhutchins | Resilience: I don't know what software you're using, bookmarks suggests a browser, and I don't know of any that automatically back up your bookmarks. |
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| 21:34.04 | Resilience | jhutchins, , as I said firefox, as I said the links in the "bookrmarks toolbar" they don't get saved with the back-ups, and it seems like they are stored or soemthing in the places.sqlite file, but hey aren't here, or at least I cannot find, so I _don't_ understand if you're meaning some type of back-up file that firefox mades or somekind of bacl-up that _you_ think I should be doing |
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| 21:44.11 | awal1 | Resilience, if you haven't made a backup, your bookmarks are not stored anywhere; when remove, they are removed |
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| 21:45.41 | Resilience | awal1, and the ./.mozilla/firefox/<user/>/bookmarksbackups ? it seems as if there is an automated back-up |
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| 21:48.47 | awal1 | Resilience, I dont see such stuuf in my .mizilla. (ls ~/.mozilla/firefox ---» 6qlngj7e.default profiles.ini. Next time, make a backup regularly, or just right clic in your bookmars , copy and paste then somewhere in a plain text file |
| 21:49.58 | awal1 | if you have them organized in folders, of course... |
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| 21:54.08 | Resilience | awal1, pwd -> /home/<user>/.mozilla/firefox/<user>.default/bookmarkbackups :o |
| 21:55.23 | awal1 | Resilience, what you want to tell me exactly? |
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| 21:56.28 | Resilience | awal1, I was being sarcastic |
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| 22:22.04 | srvk | It seems dpkg wants linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64 for installing xen-linux-system-4.6.0-1-amd64, but I have linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed instead. Can/should I force it to use the kernel I already have? (Debian Sid) |
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| 22:26.29 | srvk | I don't even know the difference between the unsigned and signed kernel, I just figured I better get the signed one... |
| 22:27.21 | Wally | srvk I think the newer kernels support new features |
| 22:27.28 | Wally | AUFS for example |
| 22:27.36 | Wally | Oh wait.. nvm |
| 22:27.45 | Wally | I dunno how that works, maybe a symbolic link? |
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| 22:28.03 | srvk | I think it's the same version, what I have and what xen wants, but I have the -signed ppackage, so dpkg doesnt accept it |
| 22:28.14 | srvk | asks me to remove the kernel |
| 22:28.26 | Wally | Try a symbolic link to the one it wants from your existing kernel |
| 22:29.39 | srvk | for the kernel itself or for the package? |
| 22:29.48 | Wally | kernel |
| 22:30.20 | srvk | the file seems to already have the same name |
| 22:30.28 | srvk | it's just the package that's different |
| 22:30.56 | Wally | you probably chan change the configure script then |
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| 22:34.27 | srvk | there seems to be this issue: Version of linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64 on system, provided by linux-image-4.6.0-1-amd64-signed:amd64, is <none>. |
| 22:34.36 | srvk | this is normal? |
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| 22:51.13 | AmazeCPK | I'm having trouble connecting to mydomain.com/wp while following these instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress |
| 22:51.31 | AmazeCPK | I am greeted with this error: Error establishing a database connection |
| 22:51.36 | Wally | did you setup a database? |
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| 22:52.16 | Wally | did you reload apache? |
| 22:52.25 | AmazeCPK | ye, instructions had me create a database called 'wordpress' using a script |
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| 22:52.45 | AmazeCPK | I have reloaded apache |
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| 22:52.57 | `Kevin | can you connect to the database from that host? |
| 22:53.00 | `Kevin | eg mysql on command line |
| 22:53.16 | AmazeCPK | yes, using root, have not tried the user, one second |
| 22:53.59 | AmazeCPK | yes I can connect using the test user |
| 22:54.05 | Wally | did you chmod the directory for www-data? |
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| 22:54.10 | Wally | chown* |
| 22:54.25 | AmazeCPK | I have not. have not seen that in the instructions at this point |
| 22:55.25 | `Kevin | verify your wp config file has the proper DB connection settings, if it does write a minimal php script that connects to mysql to begin debugging php itself |
| 22:55.44 | `Kevin | afk |
| 22:56.34 | AmazeCPK | oh man, that's out of my scope of knowledge at the moment |
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| 22:58.56 | Wally | also AmazeCPK maybe check to see if sql is running sudo service mysql start |
| 22:59.03 | Wally | sometimes that can be the problem ;) |
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| 23:00.42 | AmazeCPK | was running, but tried again. still same error |
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