| 00:00.17 | Wally | Handy to know thanks! |
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| 00:09.42 | DexterF | zykotick9: interesting. did not know that. |
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| 00:16.11 | zykotick9 | DexterF: there was a talk at a debconf about https://www.h-node.org/ at the same time, they started accepting debian-main-only submissions, the datebase grew very quickly for a while ;) there are 0 zero free ati/amd graphics cards, due to the non-free firemware they require :( |
| 00:16.24 | Rubin | did arduino change their license or something? howcome nobody seems to have 1.6 in their repositories? |
| 00:17.03 | missmbob | Rubin: probably because you're not running debian? |
| 00:17.09 | missmbob | ,v arduino |
| 00:17.10 | judd | Package: arduino on amd64 -- squeeze: 0018+dfsg-6; wheezy: 1:1.0.1+dfsg-7; sid: 2:1.0.5+dfsg2-4; jessie: 2:1.0.5+dfsg2-4; stretch: 2:1.0.5+dfsg2-4; experimental: 2:1.5.6.2+sdfsg2-3 |
| 00:17.19 | missmbob | yep, every debian release has it |
| 00:17.22 | ferry | What should I use to take full backups of my debian? |
| 00:17.23 | Rubin | 1.0.5 vs 1.6.10 on their site (as a binary tar) |
| 00:17.44 | Rubin | im wondering if theres a reason it stopped getting updated, or if its just nobody got 'round to it yet |
| 00:17.48 | Rubin | (ie licence problem) |
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| 00:18.41 | missmbob | Rubin: stable never gets updated unless there's a huge stability bug or security problem |
| 00:18.55 | missmbob | Rubin: experimental, for example, has 1.5.6. |
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| 00:19.17 | Rubin | wonder how old that is |
| 00:19.34 | missmbob | Rubin: if you want bleeding edge debian isn't for you. it's not the goal |
| 00:19.34 | Rubin | can you tell from that who is the maintainer? |
| 00:19.45 | Rubin | i understand how debian works, thanks missmbob. |
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| 00:20.29 | missmbob | Rubin: but you don't know how to find out the maintainer? https://packages.debian.org/experimental/arduino on the right side "Maintainers:" |
| 00:20.58 | Rubin | oh. thanks i never looked over there |
| 00:21.01 | TomTomTosch | #780706 |
| 00:21.02 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/780706 in arduino (open, upstream): «arduino 1.6.8 available»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-03-18; last modified: 2016-04-08. |
| 00:21.11 | TomTomTosch | ^ this should answer your question. |
| 00:21.31 | awal1 | aptitude show pkgname also tells who's the maintainer/dev. |
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| 00:22.08 | TomTomTosch | "However, we need updated licensing info from arduino" |
| 00:22.20 | Rubin | yeah i wonder what thats about |
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| 00:23.24 | Rubin | 2) The license only grants GPL-2 and LGPL-2.1 licenses without the "or later version" statement, which will create legal conflicts with libraries and other code in Arduino which are GPL-3 or LGPL-3. |
| 00:23.38 | Rubin | ruh-roh |
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| 00:45.41 | Elronnd | I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but I'm trying to dual-boot Windows and Debian (I'm currently on Debian) |
| 00:45.56 | Elronnd | I wrote the image to the disk, and if I mount it here (on Debian), it looks like an OS-installer |
| 00:46.01 | Elronnd | but I'm unable to boot it |
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| 00:53.17 | Wally | any reason why you'd need debian native? |
| 00:53.22 | Wally | and can't run it in a VM? |
| 00:53.37 | Wally | oh you mean you run Debian by default? |
| 00:53.41 | Elronnd | yes |
| 00:53.49 | Elronnd | I was writing the Windows image to the disk |
| 00:53.53 | Wally | Ahh |
| 00:54.01 | Wally | Maybe it is an OS installer then ;) |
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| 00:54.27 | Elronnd | What's an OS installer? |
| 00:54.32 | Elronnd | a program that installs an OS? |
| 00:54.38 | Wally | yes |
| 00:54.41 | Elronnd | it doesn't look like it |
| 00:55.10 | Elronnd | I see "efi/", "boot/", "bootmgr.efi" and other boot-y stuff |
| 00:55.12 | Elronnd | when I mount it |
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| 01:19.21 | vortek__ | hello |
| 01:20.26 | lolcat | vortek__, hello |
| 01:20.28 | lolcat | need support? |
| 01:20.58 | vortek__ | i need to chabge my current crpto |
| 01:21.01 | vortek__ | brb |
| 01:21.16 | lolcat | vortek__, cabage y0our crypto? |
| 01:21.42 | TomTomTosch | charge his crypto? |
| 01:21.59 | lolcat | fucking asshat |
| 01:22.07 | lolcat | TomTomTosch, may I help you? |
| 01:22.08 | missmbob | refine his kryptonite |
| 01:22.41 | debidi | crpto |
| 01:23.11 | missmbob | debidi: thanks. cleared it right up |
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| 01:24.59 | TomTomTosch | hmpf. this looks bad > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/tor |
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| 01:26.13 | missmbob | TomTomTosch: what? "unimportant issues"? |
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| 01:27.53 | TomTomTosch | i was looking at CVE-2006-6893, but now i'm pretty sure that's just bogus. |
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| 01:30.58 | missmbob | having been in the us navy i can tell you from experience...they have top notch programmers |
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| 01:33.11 | TomTomTosch | heh, can't deny that. |
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| 02:02.51 | t4nk359 | Hey everyone, I'm trying to follow this https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/42rozt/how_to_install_debian_on_an_asus_x205ta_laptop/ but I'm at |
| 02:03.00 | t4nk359 | but at the part where you enter udo dpkg -i linux-headers-4.1.6.deb linux-image-4.1.6.deb |
| 02:03.28 | t4nk359 | dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'linux-headers-4.1.6.deb': No such file or directory |
| 02:03.29 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, t4nk359 |
| 02:03.33 | t4nk359 | is what I get |
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| 02:03.58 | t4nk359 | what's going on? |
| 02:04.01 | bazhang | t4nk359, install based on a reddit post? |
| 02:04.21 | t4nk359 | well it's a weird laptop |
| 02:04.32 | bazhang | t4nk359, and a non standard kernel as well? |
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| 02:04.56 | t4nk359 | I mean there's a reason right? |
| 02:05.08 | t4nk359 | the firmware? |
| 02:05.24 | bazhang | yeah reddit is usualy not the go to place for debian installs |
| 02:05.47 | t4nk359 | gotcha |
| 02:05.57 | r6ku | t4nk359: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/X205TA, get a newer kernel from debian backports if you need to https://backports.debian.org/ |
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| 02:14.03 | jim | debian installs aren't a secret; reddit people could know something... having said that, they aren't the people who created the installer... maybe some of them tested it (who knows) |
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| 02:15.02 | bazhang | the debian wiki should always be the *first* port of call |
| 02:15.21 | bazhang | reddit recommends a new glibc to fix wifi |
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| 02:17.20 | Wally | Debian ships with 3.1.6 IIRC |
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| 02:41.12 | Ryuske | Is there a difference between /etc/init.d/<service> [operation] and service <service> [operation]? |
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| 02:42.22 | Wally | One uses init.d the other uses system.d IIRC |
| 02:42.54 | Ryuske | Does that in practice make a difference? I mean would the end result ever be different? |
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| 02:43.53 | debidi | Ryuske: 'service' just invoked the init.d/ script |
| 02:43.57 | debidi | invokes* |
| 02:44.09 | Ryuske | debidi ah, okay. Thanks! |
| 02:44.18 | ExWindower | Hi fellas :) |
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| 02:48.49 | ExWindower | Context: New OVH server, just installed Debian 8.4, tried to Change the default SSH port from 22 with the command 'sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config' then Modified the following lines in sshd_config: |
| 02:48.49 | ExWindower | Port <10001-65535> |
| 02:48.49 | ExWindower | PermitRootLogin no |
| 02:48.49 | ExWindower | X11Forwarding no |
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| 02:50.42 | ExWindower | Basically can't SSH into the server after editing port in SSH config..any help is appreciated |
| 02:51.06 | Wally | ssh ip -p port number? |
| 02:51.28 | ExWindower | Wally, ty for taking on my question |
| 02:51.29 | Wally | if you are sshing from outside have you forwarded that port? |
| 02:51.48 | Wally | np lol |
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| 02:52.56 | ExWindower | Wally, I'm new to linux. Spoiled by win GUI! I followed a guide to incrase SSH security, ended up replacing port '22' with a range 10001-65000 |
| 02:53.19 | Wally | cool |
| 02:53.23 | ExWindower | now I can't puTTy into the server, gets a netword error |
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| 02:53.44 | ExWindower | network |
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| 02:54.13 | ExWindower | any tips? |
| 02:54.23 | Wally | Wait are you SSHing from Windows? |
| 02:54.28 | ExWindower | yep |
| 02:54.31 | Wally | fun |
| 02:54.36 | ExWindower | i know |
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| 02:56.10 | ExWindower | got myself a remote server and installed debian 8.4 on it |
| 02:58.28 | ExWindower | I've a private and public key generated with puTTygen. I was SSHing fine with port 22 before.. |
| 02:59.26 | Wally | The port you have select is probably not open for ssh |
| 02:59.49 | ExWindower | I see...so keep trying ports in that range one by one? |
| 03:00.00 | Wally | I use a port within the 100's |
| 03:00.10 | Wally | Changing it is enough to thwart random attacks |
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| 03:00.37 | ExWindower | I hear ya. |
| 03:00.41 | Wally | I reckon you need to change the port at your host end. Blocking firewalls |
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| 03:01.06 | ExWindower | this is a dedicated/unmanaged machine..barebones |
| 03:01.23 | ExWindower | OVH |
| 03:01.55 | Wally | Catching on now? :P |
| 03:02.12 | ExWindower | haa :) |
| 03:02.53 | ExWindower | I installed the Original Kernel without GUI |
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| 03:03.52 | ExWindower | followed this guide (https://jes.sc/kb/rTorrent+ruTorrent-Seedbox-Guide.php) |
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| 03:05.41 | ExWindower | Under 'sshd_config' Port 10001-65535,PermitRootLogin no,X11Forwarding no |
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| 03:06.19 | ExWindower | ..and here I am...beer couldn't fix the problemo :) |
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| 03:07.37 | cra1g321 | that seems rather stupid for it to suggest a port range |
| 03:07.57 | ExWindower | cra1g321, welcome to my nightmare! |
| 03:08.02 | cra1g321 | or is it more saying to use a port within those two numbers |
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| 03:08.24 | ExWindower | I believe it's the range.. |
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| 03:08.49 | cra1g321 | i would disagree |
| 03:09.07 | cra1g321 | is that how you changed the line to be ? |
| 03:09.07 | ExWindower | cra1g321, you mean it's either of those numbres? |
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| 03:09.40 | cra1g321 | i mean saying it should be "port 2202" for example, not "port 2202-2303" |
| 03:09.47 | ExWindower | I edited out 'port 22' to say 'port 10001-65535' |
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| 03:10.20 | ExWindower | well, I followed the guide like a chump :( |
| 03:10.45 | ExWindower | go ahead and throw some salt on my wounds :) |
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| 03:11.34 | cra1g321 | not throwing salt, just gave you the answer to your issue |
| 03:11.35 | ExWindower | Now puTTy gives me 'networ error: connection timed out' |
| 03:11.48 | cra1g321 | i'm just near sure it can't be how you have it configured now |
| 03:12.03 | ExWindower | cra1g321, I know :) |
| 03:12.08 | cra1g321 | so you're going to have to see if OVH has console access to your server, and edit the config |
| 03:12.15 | cra1g321 | then restart the ssh service |
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| 03:13.02 | cra1g321 | wish i had the money to get a ovh server |
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| 03:13.49 | ExWindower | cra1g321, I grabbed one of their servers because it was on sale! |
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| 03:14.54 | ExWindower | I don't see an option to restart SSH from the console...guess I've to create a ticket. |
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| 03:15.17 | cra1g321 | you login via the console and do it yourself |
| 03:15.22 | ExWindower | So, for future reference, don't use the port range,right? |
| 03:15.39 | cra1g321 | yes |
| 03:15.49 | cra1g321 | specify one port number only |
| 03:16.20 | ExWindower | Gotcha. I'm logged into the console right now, let me look around for a reset option |
| 03:16.50 | cra1g321 | it sounds like you have quite a bit to learn, i would of played around with a cheap vultr or digitalcoean instance, learnt how to do ssh, rtorrent, rutorrent, nginx / apache, then buy something expensive like a OVH server |
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| 03:19.29 | ExWindower | cra1g321, I agree...this's gonna be an expensive learning experience for me! |
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| 03:26.33 | dde | hola |
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| 03:26.59 | dde | aqui ponen ccs reales ?? |
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| 03:30.30 | vahe | hi all how to create the bootable disk for installing debian is for uefi? dd |
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| 03:31.41 | vahe | how to create debian installer for UEFI debian.iso |
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| 03:45.54 | vahe | How to install the system if the BIOS UEFI? |
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| 03:50.43 | awal1 | vahe, just use the debian cd iso amd64, the installer will do the the job for you (no matters if bios or uefi). amd 64 iso image have support for both |
| 03:51.21 | awal1 | i386 also, seems... |
| 03:53.00 | vahe | awal1: thanks,I want to reinstall ubuntu but the computer only works on uefi how to create a setup disk ? dd if=ubuntu.iso of=dev/sdX bs=4M && sync ? |
| 03:53.05 | vahe | or debian |
| 03:53.25 | vahe | I tried on Debian did not work |
| 03:53.31 | vahe | debian 8.5 |
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| 03:54.54 | awal1 | dd /cp. |
| 03:55.34 | awal1 | cp your-debian.iso /dev/yourmedium ; sunc |
| 03:55.38 | awal1 | you are done |
| 03:55.50 | awal1 | sync ^ |
| 03:56.03 | vahe | dd cp? |
| 03:56.16 | awal1 | both does same job |
| 03:56.26 | awal1 | cp (copy) |
| 03:56.39 | vahe | I do not understand DD not necessary? |
| 03:56.50 | awal1 | use dd if you want |
| 03:57.09 | vahe | cp /home/debian.iso /dev/sdb : sync? |
| 03:57.45 | vahe | then there is no need to open the ISO? |
| 03:57.46 | awal1 | cp /home/debian.iso /dev/sdb ; sync |
| 03:57.53 | vahe | wow cool |
| 03:58.06 | awal1 | ; not : |
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| 03:58.21 | vahe | awal1: thanks))) |
| 03:59.32 | awal1 | && = and/then |
| 04:00.04 | awal1 | ; if first command was succecful then execute the second 1 |
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| 04:10.11 | reev | Hi I want to run anacron via /etc/cron.d/anacron at midnight as |
| 04:10.12 | reev | 00 00 * * * root test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start >/dev/null |
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| 04:10.27 | reev | but last night it didn't run |
| 04:10.44 | reev | initially it is meant to run at 7:30 |
| 04:10.55 | reev | but i want to run it at midnight |
| 04:11.06 | Rusty1_ | did you restart the cron daemon ? |
| 04:11.37 | reev | yeah after this i made some changes to /etc/crontab and restart cron daemon |
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| 04:13.33 | jmcnaught | reev: hello. anacron didn't get run by cron, or anacron didn't run a job that you expected? |
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| 04:14.50 | reev | jmcnaught hi like you told me yesterday I made anacron to run at midnight instead of 7:30 |
| 04:15.08 | reev | since system is up all night |
| 04:15.13 | reev | it should run but |
| 04:15.18 | reev | id didn't |
| 04:15.24 | reev | *it |
| 04:15.30 | jmcnaught | anacron did not get run at midnight? |
| 04:15.45 | reev | yes |
| 04:16.45 | reev | anacron didn't ran the script |
| 04:17.16 | jmcnaught | reev: does "journalctl -u anacron" say that anacron ran? |
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| 04:18.47 | reev | jmcnaught : one sec |
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| 04:20.12 | reev | jmcnaught :I have no journalctl |
| 04:20.30 | jmcnaught | reev: because you use sysvinit? or because you were not root? |
| 04:20.38 | reev | jmnaught yes sysvinit |
| 04:20.53 | reev | like i told yesterday |
| 04:21.10 | jmcnaught | sorry i don't try to remember all the details |
| 04:21.33 | reev | jmcnaught its okay how else i can verify the anacron |
| 04:21.45 | jmcnaught | anyways you're totally missing out on journalctl... grep your syslog |
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| 04:25.09 | sm00th | is journalctl better? |
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| 04:26.01 | jmcnaught | journalctl can do stuff like "journalctl /usr/bin/foo" to only show log messages from that binary, or "journalctl --since -2days" for the last two days worth, or "--boot -1 --lines 100" for the last 100 lines of the previous boot |
| 04:26.54 | reev | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/787163/ please look at this |
| 04:26.55 | jmcnaught | it can also filter by user, service, cgroups etc |
| 04:27.33 | jmcnaught | reev: can i see the line for your script from /etc/anacrontab? |
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| 04:27.57 | reev | one sec |
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| 04:28.35 | reev | jmcnaught : 1 10 cron.daily /bin/bash /home/qwerty/midcron |
| 04:29.22 | jmcnaught | reev: did you replace the "15cron.dailyrun-parts --report /etc/cron.daily" line? |
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| 04:30.12 | sm00th | interesting |
| 04:30.12 | reev | jmcnaught : No i didn't |
| 04:30.20 | jmcnaught | reev: anacrontab lines the third field/column is a job name, you don't want two cron.dailys, call your job something else |
| 04:31.49 | reev | jmcnaught :when the time stamp is 7:30 it was working fine just changing the time to midnight messed up whole thing |
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| 04:32.01 | reev | did you take a look at link i shared |
| 04:32.10 | jmcnaught | sm00th: journalctl and systemctl also have a '-M' (for machine) that can interact with containers and VMs. it works with systemd-nspawn, libvirt-lxc, libvirt |
| 04:32.25 | jmcnaught | reev: maybe you could show your complete anacrontab? |
| 04:32.30 | reev | jmcnaught : okay |
| 04:33.49 | reev | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/787164/ |
| 04:35.22 | jmcnaught | reev: so i would rename lines 13-15 to qwerty.shot, qwerty.dm etc, to make it more clear which jobs are running and when |
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| 04:36.21 | jmcnaught | reev: your log samples in http://paste.debian.net/787163/ on line 11 you comment "after updating timestamp to midnight..." does that mean you are manually changing the system time? |
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| 04:39.02 | reev | line 11 is is just comment I didn;t changed the system time I waited whole might and today morning checked the results |
| 04:39.17 | reev | no messing with system time |
| 04:39.46 | reev | jmcnaught : so whats your say on this behaviour |
| 04:40.03 | reev | I didn;t get "so i would rename lines 13-15 to qwerty.shot, qwerty.dm etc, to make it more clear which jobs are running and when" this |
| 04:40.14 | jmcnaught | reev: i've never really paid very close attention to anacron to be honest, but it does seem that it makes sure that its jobs get run sometime that day (for period 1), and relies on a cron daemon that calls it periodically |
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| 04:41.35 | jmcnaught | reev: the third column, where you have "cron.daily" on multiple lines, is supposed to be an identifier for that job. so then in syslog you'd see anacron entries about "qwerty.shot" and know that this script was run at that time |
| 04:42.37 | jmcnaught | reev: right now you have four different jobs all with the same name, so you get multiple anacron syslog entries about "cron.daily" instead of "cron.daily", "script1", "script beta" etc |
| 04:43.18 | reev | jmcnaught :ookayyy |
| 04:43.49 | jmcnaught | qwerty.shot etc was just a suggestion about naming scheme |
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| 04:45.04 | jmcnaught | reev: anyways, on Debian there are multiple ways that anacron is called. there is an anacron-resume.service for example, that runs anacron when the computer resumes but not if it's on battery |
| 04:46.49 | jmcnaught | reev: so it seems to me that anacron just guarantees that a job with period 1 (for daily) gets run at least once per 24 hours, and on a typical Debian system that would have anacron installed (like a laptop) anacron is being called multiple times a day, once by the cron daemon, but also when the computer resumes |
| 04:47.19 | reev | jmcnaught : yes |
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| 04:47.54 | jmcnaught | reev: since anacron is just running everything in /etc/cron.daily you could just put your scripts in there, and not need anacrontab lines for them |
| 04:48.50 | reev | jmcnaught yes i can but what about the when it didn't run at midnight |
| 04:49.08 | reev | I will put it in cron.daily |
| 04:50.08 | reev | should i wait one more day and look what happened when i put my scipts in cron.daily? |
| 04:50.16 | jmcnaught | reev: i've always used single digits for 0 and that's what's in crontab(5). I don't know if double 00 would cause a problem in a cron string |
| 04:51.06 | reev | jmcnaught : but these strings works fine in /etc/crontab |
| 04:52.08 | reev | jmcnaught http://crontab.guru/#00_00_*_*_* |
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| 04:53.44 | jmcnaught | reev: what matters here is whether Debian's cron (which is forked from Vixie-Cron) is okay with leading zero. i think it is though |
| 04:54.39 | jmcnaught | reev: what started anacron at 9:43 in your syslog page http://paste.debian.net/787163/ ? |
| 04:56.26 | reev | jmcnaught: don't know this is what i am trying to figure out |
| 04:57.38 | jmcnaught | reev: in /etc/cron.d/anacron you could use @midnight instead of '0 0 * * *' |
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| 04:58.23 | reev | jmcnaught: okay I will change it |
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| 04:59.34 | jmcnaught | reev: the files in /etc/cron.d/ are monitored for changes |
| 05:00.27 | jmcnaught | the cron(8) man page does say that in general /etc/crontab should be used by sysadmins, not /etc/cron.d but /etc/cron.d/anacron is a conffile |
| 05:01.45 | reev | jmcnaught: yeah i have read that |
| 05:02.05 | jmcnaught | reev: since you're on sysvinit maybe it's /etc/apm/event.d/anacron that ran anacron at 9:43? |
| 05:03.02 | reev | jmcnaught: yeah might be |
| 05:03.12 | reev | I didn't know about this |
| 05:03.22 | jmcnaught | reev: did the computer get resumed around this time? |
| 05:03.59 | reev | jmcnaught: this is a live server |
| 05:04.23 | reev | jmcnaught: no never |
| 05:04.33 | jmcnaught | reev: is the server always on? |
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| 05:05.22 | reev | usually it is but on weekends it is off like on saturdays and sundays |
| 05:06.10 | jmcnaught | reev: oh, so because it's off on weekends you use anacron? |
| 05:06.23 | reev | yeah |
| 05:06.48 | reev | soemtime when something went wrong we have to reboot it abruptly |
| 05:06.58 | reev | on weekdays too |
| 05:07.20 | jmcnaught | reev: so was the server rebooted around 9:43? |
| 05:07.31 | reev | the script is basicallly is used for logging purposes |
| 05:08.06 | reev | well uptime says other thing like 20days |
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| 05:10.36 | wams23 | channel debian in spanish ? |
| 05:11.15 | Epakai | !es |
| 05:11.15 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
| 05:13.21 | wams23 | thanks dpkg |
| 05:17.38 | TomasCZ | Hi, any suggestions where to go, or what to try when attempts to get mobile broadband working with Sierra EM7305 are failing? |
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| 05:18.42 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell TomasCZ -about cross post |
| 05:19.33 | jmcnaught | TomasCZ: if you describe how you are trying to get it to work someone might have pointers on what is going wrong. you've verified that others have gotten this device to work? |
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| 05:27.01 | TomasCZ | ok, so attempts to enable/power on the modem are failing. I've had more issues before with modem manager not even seeing the modem but after recent updates and more recent kernels it got more stable and it shown consistently. It always complain on radio state(guess rfkill) is to blame, however there is nothing blocked in rfkill. |
| 05:28.34 | TomasCZ | The ultrabook in question has no dedicated button to switch. Modem is usb connected. I can query it's status just fine, including sim card. |
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| 05:30.47 | TomasCZ | What is showing often is: "No transaction matched received message" also timeout waiting for reply from modem to given command(such as mmcli -m 0 -e) |
| 05:32.39 | TomasCZ | jmcnaught, I wouldn;t be asking unless I'm playing with it for some months(with breaks of course) |
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| 05:34.02 | jmcnaught | TomasCZ: i've never used modemmanager, but does it work sometimes? has anyone else gotten this modem to work? |
| 05:34.02 | zxcv_ | What are some common fixes to a .desktop file failing to change the directory when run? |
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| 05:35.50 | TomasCZ | devices are created such as cdc-wdm0(mbim) and wwp0s***(net) |
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| 05:37.22 | reev | jmcnaught now the system rebooted this happens cron[2336]: Error: bad username; while reading /etc/cron.d/anacron |
| 05:37.32 | reev | I have changed to @midnight |
| 05:37.51 | TomasCZ | jmcnaught, well only one place responded. so you tell me why waiting for days in chan with noone interested in the area? |
| 05:38.25 | jmcnaught | reev: it's complaining about the username field, which is the column after the time string |
| 05:38.54 | jmcnaught | reev: so is it '@midnight root test -x ...'? |
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| 05:39.21 | reev | jmcnaught: ohh my bad, sorry |
| 05:40.06 | TomasCZ | not this model of modem, I can get myself to some posts in fedora talking about a patch in kernel 3.xxx but for EM7355 myne is EM7305 and kernel is 4.3 |
| 05:40.09 | OS-14904 | !pain |
| 05:40.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pain is just a different kind of feeling |
| 05:40.34 | jmcnaught | TomasCZ: i mean did you find anything on the web about success with this modem? |
| 05:42.17 | TomasCZ | jmcnaught, ok, I guess if we talk about windows then yes. |
| 05:42.34 | jmcnaught | TomasCZ: with electronics similar model numbers can have dramatically different hardware in them. maybe this modem is not supported? |
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| 05:43.57 | TomasCZ | but cdc_mbim is the driver apparently for it. |
| 05:45.14 | TomasCZ | That loads just fine no tinkering was needed. |
| 05:45.59 | TomasCZ | Ok, a question, how can I find more about module than modinfo? |
| 05:46.39 | jmcnaught | TomasCZ: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt |
| 05:47.05 | TomasCZ | I found that there is sierra and sierra_net available but not used(only cdc_* ones) I'd like to know why.... Thanks will look there. |
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| 09:18.00 | TomTomTosch | ,v qbittorrent |
| 09:18.01 | judd | Package: qbittorrent on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.2.11-1; wheezy: 2.9.8-1; wheezy-backports: 3.1.10-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.1.10-1; sid: 3.3.4-1; stretch: 3.3.4-1 |
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| 09:33.37 | tete_ | hi, can someone tell me how to configure my lan1-lan6 to have this configured before dhcpd starts? i tried it with /etc/network/interfaces, but maybe i am doing something wrong? http://pastebin.com/ihefuytg |
| 09:33.45 | tete_ | ifup -a works |
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| 09:34.14 | tete_ | with that interfaces file it simply does not configure the devices, after a reboot they are gone |
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| 09:38.19 | dutchfish | tete_, i assume your card(s) is/are recognized by the kernel and propererly get there firmware if needed. I think allow-hotplug needs all the ethx's if that is what you want. The rest seams fine, but not dns settings are done, check /etc/resolv.conf and proper naming that box host.tld. |
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| 09:39.44 | dutchfish | tete_, also check `lspci | grep ether` |
| 09:40.14 | tete_ | eth's are the separated devices, i only want the lan1-lan6 working |
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| 09:40.37 | tete_ | allow-hotplug is on lan1, but its not getting up after reboot |
| 09:41.06 | dutchfish | tete_, correction: check `lspci | grep Ether` |
| 09:41.08 | tete_ | at the moment, the configuration of the dns and all that around is not important, i just want the device being up |
| 09:41.23 | tete_ | after a reboot |
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| 09:41.30 | dutchfish | testi, what does ifconfig tells you? |
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| 09:41.58 | tete_ | http://pastebin.com/gCCMVXaQ |
| 09:42.31 | dutchfish | testi, so eth0 is up and sending packets |
| 09:42.42 | tete_ | i dont care about eth*, i need the lan* devices |
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| 09:43.10 | dutchfish | testi, what tells `lscpi | grep Ether` , can yu paste me that? |
| 09:43.29 | tete_ | lspci is not installed, one moment... |
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| 09:43.39 | tete_ | what package contains lspci? |
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| 09:44.33 | dutchfish | tete_, pciutils: /usr/bin/lspci |
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| 09:45.41 | tete_ | http://pastebin.com/EbwgJUx7 |
| 09:46.39 | tete_ | lan1-lan6 are switched devices |
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| 09:47.17 | dutchfish | tete_, you want a different naming convention? normally lan devices are named ethx where x is the lancard number |
| 09:47.42 | tete_ | this is a router, not regular x86 consumer hardware |
| 09:48.05 | tete_ | http://pastebin.com/wPvKUg53 |
| 09:48.44 | tete_ | eth1 is the chip which handles the 6 lan ports |
| 09:48.56 | dutchfish | tete_, this is the Debian channel, i dont know much about 'not regular consumer hardware' |
| 09:48.58 | tete_ | but i want dhcpd only listen on those 6 lan ports, not on the eth ports |
| 09:49.20 | tete_ | dutchfish, i think you cannot help me, anyway thanks for the afford |
| 09:49.31 | dutchfish | tete_, then configure the ones you dont want to do dhcp as static ones |
| 09:49.42 | tete_ | i already did |
| 09:49.48 | dutchfish | tete_, or disable them, if that is your need |
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| 09:50.08 | tete_ | i just want lan1-lan6 getting up after a reboot, thats all i need, and it would be perfect if they get up before dhcpd starts |
| 09:50.26 | dutchfish | tete_, if this was a Debian box https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 09:50.26 | tete_ | all the other stuff with eth* is already correctly configured! |
| 09:50.35 | dutchfish | ok |
| 09:50.39 | tete_ | this is a arm router board with debian on it! |
| 09:50.48 | dutchfish | ok |
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| 09:51.36 | dutchfish | testi, back in 5 min |
| 09:51.50 | tete_ | its tete, not testi |
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| 09:58.10 | tete_ | sorry i mean not switched devices, i mean bridged devices |
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| 10:00.16 | tete_ | it would also be ok if the stuff goes to rc.local, but seems like its not getting executed |
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| 10:07.21 | dutchfish | tete_, so you want a bridge setup? |
| 10:07.45 | dutchfish | tete_, https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
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| 10:08.37 | tete_ | dutchfish, again, thanks for the try, but i guess you can not help me |
| 10:09.15 | dutchfish | testi, ok |
| 10:09.30 | dutchfish | dka, something like tail -f /proc/<pid>/fd/1 |
| 10:10.37 | dutchfish | dka, or delve into strace |
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| 10:14.54 | dutchfish | tete_, ok |
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| 10:27.25 | mikejw | what chances do I have of building this software. output from configure: http://pastebin.com/5TtQczz3 |
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| 10:28.16 | mikejw | I'm using stretch |
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| 10:34.27 | yottanami | Hey all |
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| 10:35.52 | yottanami | I am trying to install teamviewer on Debian seed but I got this message `dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:i386: |
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| 10:39.07 | mikejw | how do I install libgnomeprintui2.2-dev on stretch? |
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| 10:40.22 | Rephlexie | https://packages.debian.org/source/jessie/libpng might be 'apt-get install libpng12' solo |
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| 10:44.21 | yottanami | Rephlexie, So should I add stable repo to my repo list? |
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| 10:45.40 | Rephlexie | might not have to, use packages.debian.org and search a bit to see if there is something that has it first. |
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| 10:46.56 | yottanami | Rephlexie, There is `libpng12-0` in apt-cache search result but I think I need i386 |
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| 10:53.13 | Gabs5807 | yottanami: jessie has multiachitecture support. you can enable i386 with dpkg. |
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| 10:53.55 | Gabs5807 | then you can install i386 libs from standard repros .. |
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| 10:54.48 | Gabs5807 | apt-get install libpng12-0:i386 |
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| 10:59.40 | jelly | dpkg, tell yottanami about multiarch |
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| 12:51.56 | Rambler44 | So I decided to try systemd-nspawn on jessie, to have a stretch container |
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| 12:52.36 | Rambler44 | Issue is, after I started my net container symlinking the template "systemctl start systemd-nspawn@stretch" |
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| 12:52.59 | Rambler44 | Machinectl login "container" replies with "Failed to acquire pseudo tty: No such file or directory" |
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| 12:53.36 | Rambler44 | I opened the container manually and found this error systemd-journald-audit.socket: Failed to listen on sockets: Operation not permitted [FAILED] Failed to listen on Journal Audit Socket. |
| 12:54.45 | Rambler44 | So what can I do to fix journal on my container? |
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| 13:00.38 | Rambler44 | maybe its the difference in systemd versions between container and host system |
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| 13:02.37 | antonp | I tried to write an iso file to a USB flash drive using dd. No partition from the drive was mounted. I got this message: dd: error writing /dev/sdb: No space left on device . GParted says the device only has space for 10MiB . The drive is a SanDisk Cruzer Blade 16GB |
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| 13:10.39 | v1s | think I have a serious permission problem. First when I do apt update I get error "W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_InRelease' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)" and when I check the perm for /var I get drwx------ 11 root root 4096 Feb 28 2016 /var |
| 13:10.51 | Rambler44 | Seems like the problem was solved by not using the same networking as host machine in case anyone wonders |
| 13:11.28 | v1s | If I set it to 755 then if I try to do apt update I get this error "System error resolving 'ftp.us.debian.org:80' - getaddrinfo (13: Permission denied)" |
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| 13:13.34 | user | v1s, what? |
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| 13:14.10 | v1s | user: not sure |
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| 13:17.50 | szymon_g | hi |
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| 13:19.34 | szymon_g | i've stopped using linux a couple of years back, now i'm thinking about switching back to debian- anyway, long story short, are there any available isos of debian testing that i could simply burn on the usb stick and start graphical environment (gnome or xfce preferably) within it (i prefer it since i use wifi and i need a simple way to configure it)? |
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| 13:20.43 | szymon_g | silly me, i've got it. |
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| 13:23.38 | Rambler44 | With the way windows 10 is going I have a feeling I might use Linux more |
| 13:24.29 | Rambler44 | I had some kernel spike issues on windows 10 where heavy network load would somehow mess with the audio playback buffer potentially due to bad management from windows kernel |
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| 13:29.08 | Rambler44 | It should have been more clear that secureTTY is at fault when trying to access the container |
| 13:29.22 | Rambler44 | sorry pam_security* |
| 13:29.33 | Rambler44 | I guess, for any experienced Linux user, might be |
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| 13:31.31 | user | Rambler44, huh? |
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| 13:38.05 | Geom` | hi. i only need to the server edition. which image i should download |
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| 13:40.13 | angor | Geom`: for what? |
| 13:40.50 | Geom` | just for file sharing |
| 13:41.19 | angor | If you have stable i-net connection, you may just download netinst image and install Debian 8 from network mirror |
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| 13:41.58 | TomTomTo1 | Geom`: there is no server edition. you can decide to not install a desktop environment in the installer. |
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| 13:42.45 | Sayona | Hi, how i disable iptables on debian 8? |
| 13:42.46 | Geom` | ah the netinst |
| 13:43.02 | angor | Sayona: iptables -F |
| 13:43.23 | Geom` | ok. thanks for the info angor |
| 13:43.26 | angor | angor: just make sure you have no block policy |
| 13:43.31 | Sayona | thanks |
| 13:43.42 | Sayona | work if i flush all tables |
| 13:43.46 | Geom` | thanks TomTomTo1 |
| 13:43.52 | Sayona | samba not work to mapped in windows |
| 13:44.22 | angor | Sayona: what you would like to do? |
| 13:44.41 | Sayona | http://pastebin.ca/3674853 |
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| 13:44.50 | Sayona | to test if is something wrong with my samba |
| 13:44.55 | Rambler44 | user sorry for my bad explanation, but the issue is that when I try to access my new container using "machinectl login container" I get "Failed to acquire pseudo tty: Operation not permitted" |
| 13:45.04 | Sayona | this is my iptables rules...but if are apply not work to connect at samba |
| 13:45.10 | Rambler44 | So I assumed fixing the issue woudl be adding pts/0 inside the container /etc/securetty |
| 13:45.20 | Rambler44 | But it seems like I was wrong, as I just tried it and that did not solve my issue. |
| 13:45.32 | angor | Sayona: smb seems work with 135 port |
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| 13:45.51 | Sayona | ah, i have other 4 port there |
| 13:45.54 | Sayona | hmm |
| 13:46.13 | angor | Sayona: sorry.. 139 |
| 13:46.23 | Sayona | -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/24 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 139 -j ACCEPT |
| 13:46.26 | Sayona | i have that there |
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| 13:46.33 | angor | & 445 |
| 13:46.37 | Sayona | and 445 |
| 13:47.03 | Sayona | why not work? if i apply the rules in iptables |
| 13:47.21 | Sayona | angor, please take a look at my iptables http://pastebin.ca/3674853 |
| 13:48.11 | Rambler44 | If you access the container directly it will work |
| 13:48.16 | Rambler44 | But that's because TTY is /dev/console |
| 13:48.21 | angor | Sayona: please show iptables -L -n |
| 13:48.46 | Rambler44 | I wonder, am I doing something wrong with container-nspawn, anyone who knows why I can't hook up a pseudo terminal to my container? |
| 13:49.03 | Rambler44 | I can of course solve it by starting a shell server from whitin the container, although that would be pretty unecessary to run |
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| 13:49.09 | Sayona | now is empty angor |
| 13:49.22 | angor | Sayona: so you have no rules |
| 13:49.22 | Sayona | but this is my iptables angor : http://pastebin.ca/3674853 |
| 13:49.27 | Rambler44 | I removed the /etc/securetty file altogether and it still couldn't enter |
| 13:49.36 | Rambler44 | so, in other words, problems not there. |
| 13:49.40 | Sayona | if I have no rules work correctly |
| 13:49.45 | angor | Sayona: you have to apply all these rules |
| 13:49.46 | Rambler44 | I'll try re-creating the whole container for the sake of it |
| 13:49.48 | Sayona | Rambler44, yes |
| 13:50.15 | Sayona | angor, right now, 2s |
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| 13:50.56 | angor | Sayona: iptables -L -n will show... |
| 13:50.57 | Sayona | angor, done |
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| 13:51.19 | Geom` | TomTomTo1: can i decide not to install the desktop and only CLI without internet connection? |
| 13:51.23 | Sayona | angor, http://pastebin.ca/3674855 |
| 13:51.25 | angor | Sayona: looks correct? iptables -L -n |
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| 13:52.00 | Sayona | is the http://pastebin.ca/3674855 |
| 13:52.02 | angor | Sayona: look good.. |
| 13:52.04 | Sayona | look correctly? |
| 13:52.08 | Sayona | let me restart the windows |
| 13:52.09 | Sayona | to see |
| 13:52.12 | angor | sure |
| 13:52.43 | TomTomTo1 | Geom`: yes. if you are installing on a laptop there are netinst images that contain firmware, though. |
| 13:52.46 | JohnA | I am running Thunderbird 51.0a1 and I keep getting messages that it is unable to do auto updates because of wring permissions, what permissions should be set? |
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| 13:54.24 | Sayona | angor, same to work now. |
| 13:54.33 | Sayona | let see if I use a user to connect on samba |
| 13:54.41 | user | Sayona, huh? |
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| 13:54.54 | Sayona | it's work |
| 13:55.00 | angor | Sayona: kewl :) |
| 13:55.23 | Sayona | :D now I try to configure samba to have access using user/pass |
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| 13:55.33 | angor | you have to open 139 and 445 ports for sambe |
| 13:55.51 | angor | I'd suggest to change ssh port |
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| 13:56.19 | Sayona | angor is a private netwrok |
| 13:56.24 | angor | tooooo.... 13459 (anyone you like) |
| 13:56.26 | angor | ok |
| 13:56.34 | angor | private looks ok |
| 13:56.35 | Sayona | i have a firewall |
| 13:56.47 | angor | I have direct IP :) |
| 13:56.57 | angor | angor.name :) |
| 13:57.26 | angor | and no sshd on 22 port :) |
| 13:58.17 | angor | samba is also forbiden for non-private addresses |
| 13:58.19 | Sayona | :D |
| 13:59.01 | Rambler44 | I wanted to just stick with NFS but Windows removed it since Windows 8.1 from Pro edition, only to be featured in Enterprise (officla support that is) |
| 13:59.25 | Rambler44 | Microsoft-.* |
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| 13:59.54 | Sayona | Yes, now working , but i need to find a solution to use user/pass |
| 13:59.59 | Sayona | right! windows sucks |
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| 14:01.24 | angor | Sayona: mmm... user/pass for samba? |
| 14:01.36 | Sayona | yes let me try |
| 14:01.43 | angor | this is simple :) |
| 14:02.20 | Sayona | yeee |
| 14:02.21 | Sayona | work |
| 14:02.26 | angor | kewl |
| 14:02.30 | Sayona | :* |
| 14:02.39 | Sayona | linux is the best! |
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| 14:03.23 | Sayona | angor, I cannot add folder, rename folder in share |
| 14:03.26 | Sayona | need to add something? |
| 14:04.13 | angor | Sayona: /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 14:04.32 | angor | Sayona: google for it... you'll do that! :) |
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| 14:10.05 | iamawesome | Suppose i'm on facebook.com , if i press the down arrow key , nothing happens, but if i press scroll down key, it works fine |
| 14:10.13 | iamawesome | It's firefox and openbox |
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| 14:13.41 | Sayona | angor, done :D thanks |
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| 14:14.21 | angor | Sayona: you've done by yourself :) |
| 14:14.33 | angor | congrats |
| 14:14.47 | Sayona | :* |
| 14:15.05 | angor | gcongrats from Minsk! :) |
| 14:15.42 | Sayona | Nice :D |
| 14:16.01 | Sayona | :* |
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| 14:16.24 | angor | Sayona: how do you like biathlon? |
| 14:16.58 | angor | Sayona: Do you know Darya Domracheva? She's Belarussian :) |
| 14:16.59 | Sayona | not a fan :P |
| 14:17.28 | Sayona | yes I know that player Darya Domracheva |
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| 14:17.57 | angor | :) |
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| 14:45.13 | Rambler44 | Yup, I re-created my container using debootstrap |
| 14:46.05 | Rambler44 | but upon attempting machinectl login *container* still get Failed to acquire pseudo tty: No such file or directory |
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| 14:46.34 | ohlolz | hi everyone |
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| 14:48.43 | ohlolz | who in here uses the rtl8723be driver for wifi. can you post the content of /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf if your wifi works fine, please? |
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| 14:54.22 | ikonia | ohlolz: are you using debian or ubuntu |
| 14:54.49 | ohlolz | ikonia: ubuntu, but isn't the file the same for both? |
| 14:54.57 | ikonia | so please don't ask in #debian for ubuntu help |
| 14:55.17 | ohlolz | ikonia: the file are just parameters, and will work for both |
| 14:55.20 | ikonia | so please don't ask in #debian for ubuntu help |
| 14:55.33 | ohlolz | ikonia: are you op in here? |
| 14:55.37 | ikonia | nope |
| 14:56.33 | ohlolz | so.... yeah |
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| 14:56.44 | ikonia | not sure what that has to do with anything or the rules of the channel |
| 14:56.50 | ikonia | please don't ask for ubuntu support in #debian |
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| 14:57.14 | ohlolz | ikonia: you're not op in here, so dont tell me what to do. and my question is not out of range |
| 14:57.20 | ikonia | ohlolz: I am aware of the rules |
| 14:57.28 | ikonia | and any community member can ask you to follow the rules |
| 14:57.30 | ikonia | please don't ask for ubuntu support in #debian |
| 14:57.37 | ohlolz | omg |
| 14:57.50 | ohlolz | ikonia: you have something against me |
| 14:57.55 | r6ku | !ubuntu |
| 14:57.55 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:57.59 | ikonia | no, I'm just asking you to follow the rules - nothing more |
| 14:58.06 | OerHeks | even with fwlps=N ips=N don't work flawless, that chip is a troublemaker http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=125827 |
| 14:58.39 | ohlolz | thank you OerHeks . i've been trying to tweak it, but i still lose connection |
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| 15:07.37 | Rambler44 | Most of my issues probably come from using outdated systemd |
| 15:07.52 | Rambler44 | which does not contain the appropriate patches |
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| 15:31.29 | Rambler44 | so the most sensible solution is to update systemd above or version 226 |
| 15:31.38 | Rambler44 | since thats not possible with jessie, I assume migrate to stretch? |
| 15:32.20 | TomTomTo1 | ,v systemd |
| 15:32.21 | judd | Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u4; jessie-backports: 230-7~bpo8+2; stretch: 230-7; sid: 231-1 |
| 15:32.42 | TomTomTo1 | same version in bpo and testing ^ |
| 15:33.44 | Rambler44 | Ah, so I can backport newer systemd is what you're saying? |
| 15:34.07 | TomTomTo1 | someone already backported it for you is what i'm saying. |
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| 15:34.32 | Rambler44 | Well, I would assume I'm not the only one having issues like this because of old systemd. |
| 15:34.33 | TomTomTo1 | https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 15:34.49 | Rambler44 | So I'm happy somebody did it, now let's see if I'll grab that or not. |
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| 15:51.10 | notrobot9s | how long will debian 7 be supported, and when it is not, how long will firefox updates work exactly with extract to /opt? |
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| 15:52.06 | TomTomTo1 | https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
| 15:52.20 | notrobot9s | i cannot link from this program |
| 15:52.26 | notrobot9s | is there a date? |
| 15:52.40 | TomTomTo1 | notrobot9s: Wheezy LTS is from 26th April 2016 to 31st May 2018 |
| 15:52.52 | notrobot9s | good |
| 15:53.08 | Rambler44 | You can always dist-upgrade |
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| 15:53.23 | Rambler44 | But that's not really safe in productio |
| 15:53.23 | notrobot9s | Rambler44: i cannot because the via chrome driver is broken beyond debian 7 |
| 15:53.26 | Rambler44 | production |
| 15:53.33 | notrobot9s | so, it must stay on 7 |
| 15:53.58 | Rambler44 | I had massive tearing issues on jessie |
| 15:54.01 | notrobot9s | goodbye! |
| 15:54.07 | Rambler44 | so I'd new newer versions ;) |
| 15:54.12 | Rambler44 | Uusally it's the other way around |
| 15:54.17 | Rambler44 | oh well, bai |
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| 16:04.59 | olviier | hello, how can I create a debian live usb stick on Windows ? |
| 16:05.52 | missmbob | !tell olviier about win32diskimager |
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| 16:06.28 | Rambler44 | I would recommend you |
| 16:06.42 | olviier | with a iso image ? |
| 16:06.51 | Rambler44 | https://rufus.akeo.ie/ |
| 16:06.59 | missmbob | olviier: yes. with a live iso use win32diskimager like the bot said |
| 16:07.01 | Rambler44 | this is by far a superior tool, it does dd write and everything you'd need |
| 16:07.04 | missmbob | do *not* use rufus |
| 16:07.06 | missmbob | !rufus |
| 16:07.07 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 16:07.11 | olviier | okay thank you |
| 16:07.16 | missmbob | Rambler44: bot disagrees with you |
| 16:07.23 | Rambler44 | Oh noes |
| 16:07.37 | Rambler44 | I just write RAW iamges with dd write so can't blame me |
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| 16:07.47 | Rambler44 | Last time I wrote a debian hybrid image it would nto boot in csm |
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| 16:07.55 | Rambler44 | I was quite pissed, as I couldn't install UEFI Debian |
| 16:08.01 | missmbob | Rambler44: eh we can kinda blame you for talking out of your ass and calling it superior :P |
| 16:08.14 | Rambler44 | But but |
| 16:08.34 | olviier | it'S not work |
| 16:09.56 | Rambler44 | It did work |
| 16:10.15 | Rambler44 | I'd assume that it did in fact broke it |
| 16:10.21 | olviier | yes |
| 16:10.23 | Rambler44 | As I assume a hybrid image should be able to boot in UEFI mode |
| 16:10.28 | Rambler44 | Or am I mistaken? |
| 16:10.41 | olviier | do you have a other program? |
| 16:11.11 | missmbob | olviier: which one did you use? |
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| 16:11.45 | Rambler44 | Okay, I know w32diskimager |
| 16:11.57 | Rambler44 | Is LiLi also not recommended? |
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| 16:38.17 | NottSure | Ive been messing around with whonix in virtual box and im getting several errors upon startup, and wont connect to tor. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. |
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| 16:46.23 | jmcnaught | NottSure: try the whonix channel |
| 16:46.31 | jmcnaught | !tell NottSure -about whonix |
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| 16:47.48 | rysiek|pl | jmcnaught: let's just stop for a minute and ponder that line ;) |
| 16:47.58 | rysiek|pl | "!tell NottSure -about whonix" |
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| 16:48.39 | jmcnaught | rysiek|pl: this is how you tell the bot to send a factoid to someone but not yourself |
| 16:48.44 | missmbob | rysiek|pl: and? |
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| 16:50.47 | rysiek|pl | jmcnaught: I just find it mildly funny what a well-chosen nickname can do |
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| 16:54.35 | jdoe | any idea why tpm-tools might be packaged for sid and wheezy, but not stretch? |
| 16:54.43 | NottSure | Yeah I thought the name was a good pick. Its from Idiocracy |
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| 16:55.24 | jmcnaught | jdoe: you can look up the history of packages here: https://tracker.debian.org/ |
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| 16:59.06 | jdoe | it appears it was removed *after* a bug that might affect it in the future was patched. |
| 17:00.51 | TomTomTosch | the bug report hasn't been closed yet. |
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| 17:10.34 | jaggz | My netinst reboots after selecting a boot option |
| 17:10.44 | jdoe | point is moot I guess, if it's not there I need to build it. Thanks guys. |
| 17:11.17 | jaggz | Removing quiet, putting nomodeset, adding BOOT_DEBUG=3 .. nothing changes it |
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| 17:12.16 | jaggz | Sigh |
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| 17:13.09 | jaggz | Created the install usb with cat foo.iso > /dev/sdd |
| 17:13.28 | jaggz | I do get the menus at boot |
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| 17:24.43 | jmcnaught | jdoe: if you're on testing/stretch just install it from unstable (don't do this on stable/jessie) |
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| 17:25.34 | jmcnaught | !ssm |
| 17:25.34 | dpkg | «echo 'APT::Default-Release "stretch";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security stretch lines and change one set to sid, then apt-get update. apt-get -t sid install foo; to install foo from sid rather than stretch as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution. See <jum caveat> and use this setup to track <stretch> after its release. |
| 17:25.40 | jmcnaught | jdoe: ^^ |
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| 17:29.17 | babilen | jaggz: Same with the stretch installer: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ? |
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| 17:30.26 | missmbob | babilen: the dev installer is meant to test the installer, not to install testing/sid. |
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| 17:31.48 | babilen | missmbob: We are testing the installer |
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| 17:47.06 | scope | hi how is everyone |
| 17:48.01 | dolly | @scope everyone is fine |
| 17:48.21 | scope | i have a quick question. I'm using debian with lvm partitions. i have a 380Mb tmp folder now android studio needs more than that to run. How can I change the download location to my home folder |
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| 17:49.13 | awal1 | How to send a window from monitor 1 to monitor 2 in openbox? |
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| 17:50.29 | scope | without changing the size of my tmp folder as i dont have the time to reconfigure mstab |
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| 17:53.08 | ElDiabolo | scope, Th astonishing thing to me is that the download location is in /tmp. What is it that you are using for the download? |
| 17:53.44 | scope | im doing a fresh install of android studiop |
| 17:54.15 | scope | its tring to install the sdk files and other add ons now my tmp folder is not big enough to download the files too |
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| 18:00.33 | ElDiabolo | scope, Maybe there is a way to change istaller behaviour. The other cheeap option ist to temporirily replace /tmp with a symlink to something like /home/tmp. |
| 18:01.41 | scope | ElDiabolo, how would i do that |
| 18:03.14 | missmbob | scope: -Djava.io.tmpdir=/path/to/temp |
| 18:03.34 | missmbob | scope: http://www.out4mind.com/en/android-studio-updates-error-linux/ |
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| 18:03.42 | ElDiabolo | missmbob, Uh, that is of course much better. |
| 18:04.32 | scope | missmbob thank you very much |
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| 18:10.29 | eSa| | I've just did a vat aptitude upgrade on my system and have some inconsistencies, for example: tech@matsui) pavucontrol |
| 18:10.29 | eSa| | <eSa|> pavucontrol: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-1.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 18:10.52 | eSa| | s/vat/vast/ |
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| 18:14.05 | penguiner | test |
| 18:14.23 | missmbob | eSa|: testing? |
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| 18:15.45 | eSa| | I should check my pinnings |
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| 18:16.07 | kerDePount | Hello |
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| 18:36.23 | npo | Hi, i'm trying to change the default web browser for xdg, but i'm getting this error when I run 'xdg-settings set default-web-browser google-chrome.desktop': xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment. I get the same error even if i run `xdg-settings get default-web-browser`. But when I run `xdg-settings --list`, 'default-web-browser' is listed. |
| 18:36.29 | npo | What could me error be? |
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| 18:44.18 | psichas | ppl i dont get it, then i try for loop in my debian it doesn't work well simple syntax for i in {1..100} do echo $i done out me just {1..100) but not numbers from 1 to 100 :) |
| 18:44.21 | pseudonymous | I'm hoping to set up a bridge for proxmox (KVM) VM's on an IPv6 (/64) subnet but admittedly coming up short as I'll freely admit to understanding very little about what I'm doing or how to accomplish it. Anyone knowledgeable who knows what sort of resources I should be looking at ? |
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| 18:44.41 | scope | missmbob ElDiabolo just thought i'd send a quick update. The site you sent me too doesnt work if you don't have the sdk's installed. I couldn't edit custom VM settings or even set a keymap to load the help menu. For a work around i found the files locally and in terminal (must be terminal so you can use sudo to edit) then adding the -Djava.io.tmpdir=/path/tmp. After saving and restarting android studio this worked so again thank you for your help |
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| 18:45.41 | scope | you have to do it for both studio and studio64 |
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| 18:46.12 | TomTomTosch | psichas: for i in {1..100}; do echo $i; done; |
| 18:47.35 | AimHere | There's also seq - 'seq 1 100' |
| 18:47.51 | TomTomTosch | psichas: which will work in bash but not in dash |
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| 18:48.07 | AimHere | That has the advantage of a command line flag which can pad with leading zeroes |
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| 18:49.08 | TomTomTosch | but you call a second process which is silly for a for loop. |
| 18:49.27 | psichas | i like seq so i=seq(1 100) should work like for? |
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| 18:56.24 | psichas | http://pastebin.com/tVgfga5q why still for doesn't works prints only empty lines lol i feel so stupid lol :) |
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| 18:57.47 | jmcnaught | psichas: line 4 you have "echo $1" instead of $i |
| 18:58.21 | psichas | what i should write |
| 18:58.49 | jmcnaught | psichas: if you are using i as the variable in your for loop, you want to "echo $i" |
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| 18:59.39 | psichas | jmcnaught, can you write correct example... i dont get lol |
| 18:59.57 | TomTomTosch | replace echo $1 with echo $i |
| 19:00.06 | jmcnaught | for x in $(seq 1 10); do echo $x; done; |
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| 19:00.48 | psichas | omg lol so stupid mistake i see :D |
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| 19:03.09 | ayecaramba | hi |
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| 19:03.23 | ayecaramba | I dont' have wifi when I installed debian, and now when I rebooted it won't load desktop |
| 19:03.27 | ayecaramba | it only loads command promp |
| 19:03.35 | ayecaramba | how do I get desktop environment without wifi |
| 19:03.53 | ayecaramba | I have a wifi adapter but it's not recogniznig it. For some reason ubuntu will recognize it but debian wont' |
| 19:04.43 | ayecaramba | I installed Debian Jessie. Any help would be appreciated |
| 19:05.00 | jmcnaught | ayecaramba: you probably just need to install firmware for your wifi. Debian doesn't automatically include firmwares that are not free software, but they are available in the non-free section |
| 19:05.15 | ayecaramba | yeah but I can't acccess wifi to download them :) that's the problem |
| 19:05.19 | jmcnaught | ayecaramba: is the wifi built-in or a USB thing? |
| 19:05.25 | missmbob | !firmware image |
| 19:05.25 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 19:05.27 | ayecaramba | I have bulit in wifi and usb tihng |
| 19:05.42 | ayecaramba | but neither are working so I can't download firmware |
| 19:05.53 | jmcnaught | ayecaramba: you can download the .deb for the firmware on a different computer and transfer it with a USB stick |
| 19:06.06 | ayecaramba | i have another question ~ why didn't debian install with a desktop environment? |
| 19:06.11 | ayecaramba | I thought it included one! |
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| 19:06.36 | jmcnaught | ayecaramba: either because you didn't select one, or you didn't have a working network mirror during the install. ethernet is not an option? |
| 19:06.45 | ayecaramba | nope, it's a netbook |
| 19:07.14 | ayecaramba | so I have a tplink wn725n, where could I find that in the firmware page |
| 19:07.18 | ayecaramba | I'M looking, but can't see it |
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| 19:08.11 | missmbob | !rtl8188eu |
| 19:08.11 | dpkg | Realtek RTL8188EU (USB ID 0bda:8179) and RTL8188ETV-based USB wireless LAN devices (e.g. USB IDs 0bda:0179, 2001:330f) are supported by the r8188eu staging driver, introduced at Linux 3.12. Firmware from userspace is required (rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin) and packaged for Debian since firmware-realtek 0.41. Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: for device support, ask me about <bdo kernel> and install firmware-realtek from <wheezy-backports>. |
| 19:08.21 | missmbob | ayecaramba: there ^ |
| 19:09.11 | ayecaramba | so i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/381574/drivers-for-tp-link-tl-wn725n-nano-usb-wireless-n-adapter |
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| 19:09.17 | ayecaramba | how would I download these files TO my usb |
| 19:09.24 | ayecaramba | via the command line |
| 19:10.11 | ayecaramba | this is confusing :( |
| 19:10.18 | missmbob | ayecaramba: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_20160110-1~bpo8+1_all.deb |
| 19:10.40 | ayecaramba | ah ok! so i just downloaded that on my usb |
| 19:10.41 | missmbob | ayecaramba: then you simply dpkg -i firmware-realtek_20160110-1~bpo8+1_all.deb and reboot |
| 19:10.50 | ayecaramba | ha |
| 19:11.12 | ayecaramba | so I boot into debian with the usb but how do I access the usb with the file on it in debian command? |
| 19:11.34 | ayecaramba | i have to mount my usb first then cd /dev/sda /media/usb |
| 19:11.43 | ayecaramba | and then I can run the command? |
| 19:11.44 | ompaul | ayecaramba: you could save yourself a lot of hassle with a network cable and plugging straight into the router if possible |
| 19:11.53 | ayecaramba | sorry I can't this is a netbook |
| 19:11.55 | ompaul | do your install / config and then rock on |
| 19:12.00 | ayecaramba | doesn't have a ethernet unfortunately :( |
| 19:12.28 | missmbob | ayecaramba: of course you mount it first. dpkg -i /path/to/file |
| 19:12.52 | ayecaramba | k |
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| 19:13.00 | ayecaramba | I think I've got it now! |
| 19:13.10 | ayecaramba | then once I have wifi, how do I enable Debian Desktop |
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| 19:13.33 | missmbob | ayecaramba: which desktop? |
| 19:13.38 | ayecaramba | debian desktop |
| 19:13.39 | ompaul | https://www.linux.com/learn/how-install-firmware-debian-enable-wireless-video-or-sound |
| 19:13.44 | missmbob | ayecaramba: which desktop? |
| 19:13.48 | ayecaramba | xfce4 gnome or what? |
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| 19:13.53 | jmcnaught | ayecaramba: once the firmware is installed you'll need to do this: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line to connect |
| 19:13.53 | ayecaramba | I don't know I'm asking you :) |
| 19:14.10 | ayecaramba | ok thanks |
| 19:14.11 | jmcnaught | ayecaramba: then you can run "tasksel" and it will give you a menu to select which desktop you want |
| 19:14.18 | ayecaramba | alright sweet! |
| 19:14.20 | ompaul | default is gnome - others by choice and that link is how do install firmware into debian |
| 19:14.23 | ompaul | print and have |
| 19:14.29 | ayecaramba | sorry I'm such a noob guys, but thanks for the help. I'm trying to learn! |
| 19:14.34 | ayecaramba | I think I've got it now! |
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| 19:23.30 | psichas | jmcnaught, can you help me again with for? this is debian output http://pastebin.com/BX0n81WB |
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| 19:30.55 | jmcnaught | psichas: i copied your paste into a script and it out the incrementing numbers one per line |
| 19:31.04 | jmcnaught | psichas: what does "bash --version" say? |
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| 19:31.43 | psichas | 4.3.30 |
| 19:31.46 | nixhed | works for me too...just fine 1 to 100 each line. |
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| 19:31.57 | psichas | rhel works perfect but debian no |
| 19:32.09 | jmcnaught | psichas: how are you running the script? |
| 19:32.21 | psichas | sh script.sh |
| 19:32.34 | missmbob | fucking dash |
| 19:32.44 | TomTomTosch | it ignores the shebang and runs dash. |
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| 19:32.51 | jmcnaught | psichas: and if you do "bash script.sh" ? |
| 19:32.51 | psichas | oh |
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| 19:33.27 | psichas | worked now... :) |
| 19:33.33 | nixhed | on deb 8.3 for me just fine. |
| 19:33.36 | jmcnaught | psichas: you can also make it executable with "chmod +x script.sh" and then just run it like "./script.sh" |
| 19:34.07 | jmcnaught | psichas: /bin/sh on Debian is dash, not bash. |
| 19:34.07 | psichas | ok i knew, but problems with sh i see 1st time |
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| 19:40.36 | TomTomTosch | it differs between distributions if /bin/sh points do dash or bash |
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| 19:45.54 | teraflops | dash is fine. just fix your scripts and/or use a proper shebang |
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| 19:49.35 | TomTomTosch | and what's not proper about his shebang? |
| 19:49.56 | teraflops | I didn't see it |
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| 19:50.06 | teraflops | I just read fucking dash |
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| 21:10.33 | teraflops | pseudonymous: I'm talking about the promoxVE |
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| 21:12.15 | teraflops | you can do routed or bridge network on the proxmox nodes, vps providers avoid the bridged setup mainly for security reasons |
| 21:12.18 | pseudonymous | Still not sure I follow. They just provided a physical machine with an IPv4 addr and an IPv6 subnet. I then proceeded to install debian and proxmox atop Debian |
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| 21:13.17 | pseudonymous | teraflops: Yea, I just came across a statement like that on the proxmox wiki too. There's some vague allusions to needing to request additional MAC's on Hetzner's (my VPS) own guides, I'm guessing this is why |
| 21:13.29 | teraflops | pseudonymous: yeah ;) |
| 21:14.40 | teraflops | pseudonymous: I bet is routed, if you want a bunch of machines serving web content a reverse proxy is the way to go |
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| 21:15.51 | pseudonymous | teraflops: you mean something like an nginx/haproxy server forwarding requests to respective VM's based on the domain name ? |
| 21:16.01 | Klaus_Dieter | pseudonymous: it sounds like you do not want bridging then actually..... |
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| 21:16.59 | teraflops | yeah, haproxy is mainly for high availability maybe you want that too, but just nginx is fine |
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| 21:17.48 | teraflops | pseudonymous: oh lucky you, you have a lot of fun there :P |
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| 21:17.53 | pseudonymous | Maybe I want routing after all, yes. While Hetzner allows me to request multiple MAC's for my IPv6 addrs (in theory) I can't find where to do so... |
| 21:18.15 | pseudonymous | teraflops: I hate, absolutely hate, administering linux boxes |
| 21:18.20 | teraflops | :P |
| 21:18.34 | pseudonymous | Wait, no, I hate configuring pc's in general. I just want to code :( |
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| 21:20.05 | teraflops | pseudonymous: idk about Hetzner but I guess thy have a web interface for doing such things, proxmox also have an API and many providers use it for custom admin web interfaces |
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| 21:21.00 | pseudonymous | so, am I getting this right. Bridging is conceptually closer to a switch, the individual IPv6 addrs of my subnet would be externally visible and most VPS providers would freak if I attempted such a setup (though I can if I talk to hetzner). Routing would what.. basically leave me with one externally reachable IP ? I'd basically be NAT'ing or something akin to it ? |
| 21:22.40 | Klaus_Dieter | bridging is actually what a switch does. |
| 21:23.05 | Klaus_Dieter | pseudonymous: yes. |
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| 21:23.48 | pseudonymous | holy cr*p, I'm a genius. Time to hop careers and become a network admin |
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| 21:24.14 | Klaus_Dieter | well, it seems I have not come to the right place to ask my snd-hda-intel question. where is a better place to ask? |
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| 21:24.49 | teraflops | pseudonymous: I like promoxVE and I use it at work, is the most reliable virtualization platform imo. |
| 21:24.50 | pseudonymous | Klaus_Dieter: wish I could help. Have you checked out what the Arch Wiki has to say on Alsa, recording and such ? |
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| 21:25.44 | userX1 | hello everyone, i have been stuck with this for quite a bit now, hope to find help here...apt-get is stuck at "Building database of manual pages ..." |
| 21:25.59 | pseudonymous | teraflops: While it might scare you to know a NW-novice such as myself set up a small Mesos cluster, I did :P I just installed proxmox today because this time I don't have multiple servers but a single, beefier one. It seems *really* interesting |
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| 21:26.28 | userX1 | i m running Debian Stable |
| 21:26.42 | userX1 | 8.5 Jessie |
| 21:27.11 | teraflops | pseudonymous: nah it's fine, nobody knows everything |
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| 21:27.37 | userX1 | dpkg --configure -a also gets stuck at the same point |
| 21:27.37 | dpkg | userX1: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 21:29.17 | userX1 | as a result i am unable to run apt-get on my computer |
| 21:29.31 | Klaus_Dieter | pseudonymous: yes. unfortunately sound is working except the mic. that makes me think I am missing something profane |
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| 21:29.46 | userX1 | it always gets stuck at the same point "Building database of manual pages ..." |
| 21:29.56 | jaggz | can I install 64bit debian with an i386 netinst? |
| 21:30.43 | missmbob | jaggz: no |
| 21:30.48 | Klaus_Dieter | jaggz: nope |
| 21:30.52 | pseudonymous | Klaus_Dieter: I remember way, way back I sometimes had to alter some module options for my soundcards when their linux kernel modules were loaded |
| 21:30.56 | jaggz | hm |
| 21:31.35 | jaggz | fine be that way |
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| 21:32.06 | missmbob | don't tell me how to be gurl |
| 21:32.13 | missmbob | snaps fingers |
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| 21:32.51 | pseudonymous | Klaus_Dieter: also, as the arch wiki on Alsa mentions, some sound cards have mislabelled channels and/or need some channels to be unmuted & adjusted for analogue sound recording to work |
| 21:33.46 | Klaus_Dieter | well it turns out I was missing something profane: the capture flag needs to be turned on by pressing space in alsamixer when having the mic selected |
| 21:34.23 | pseudonymous | Klaus_Dieter: well that's surprisingly easy :) |
| 21:34.25 | Klaus_Dieter | I just learned that after fiddling for 2 hours with module options for snd-hda-intel :) |
| 21:34.36 | Klaus_Dieter | :-/ but it is working now. :) |
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| 21:36.04 | teraflops | Klaus_Dieter: heh, now consider to forget about alsa and switching to pulseaudio |
| 21:37.02 | pseudonymous | Oh yes, pulseaudio, another study in making something absurdly complicated |
| 21:37.16 | jaggz | pa is crazy and nice |
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| 21:37.57 | jaggz | it's the only thing I found that lets me change multiple source feeds' balance so I can record two streams in one stereo one (left and right) |
| 21:38.12 | jaggz | for translated lectures |
| 21:38.36 | pseudonymous | I remember my early slackware installs (7.x I think).. Back then, most everything was simple to work out. Nowadays pulseaudio (and sometimes systemd) seems to make me wonder if I'm still smart enough to run Linux.. |
| 21:38.49 | JohnTitor | pseudonymous: I think it's the other way around |
| 21:39.00 | JohnTitor | (about pulseaudio) |
| 21:39.05 | Epakai | it's just different, not terribly complex |
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| 21:39.25 | pseudonymous | JohnTitor: oh, I was about to be witty and suggest: so you think it's possible that Linux is to smart to be run ? ;) |
| 21:39.33 | jaggz | adding a line for a little script to run on a port was easy with inetd :) |
| 21:39.53 | jaggz | had to learn a whole buncha systemd stuff to get that to work :( |
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| 21:41.08 | jaggz | 'course, now I can't even get past an install boot menu |
| 21:41.14 | jaggz | shoulda gotten a mac |
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| 21:42.13 | pseudonymous | Yea, things are getting ever more complex. Lilo was dead easy to learn. Grub was... do-able.. Grub2.. it's a nightmare. Most Linux components follow a trajectory of getting ever more flexible but at the expense of getting ever more complex for the layman to configure. |
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| 21:42.40 | jaggz | thankfully automation comes along with that development.. but when there's a problem ... |
| 21:42.41 | JohnTitor | pseudonymous: heh as smart as the one that is administering it |
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| 21:44.07 | pseudonymous | JohnTitor: you could say that. But I had sound coming out of my speakers with OSS too.. I had multiple concurrently playing sounds with ESD. Then came alsa and a few months of breakage or hissing audio. Then once that worked came pulseaudio and the cycle repeats itself :P |
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| 21:44.28 | jaggz | "install LAMP?" |
| 21:44.33 | jaggz | heh |
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| 21:45.17 | JohnTitor | pseudonymous: and it's way more complex. you need to set up a sw mixer if you do alsa |
| 21:46.30 | JohnTitor | pseudonymous: well and using bt headsets and that stuff with alsa is just crazy compared to pulseaudio |
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| 21:47.09 | jaggz | amd64 would be the proper x64 for a pc's 64bit mb right? |
| 21:47.46 | jaggz | this mb http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01635734 |
| 21:48.48 | JohnTitor | jaggz: yeah |
| 21:48.51 | missmbob | jaggz: yes |
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| 21:49.13 | jaggz | hm.. thanks |
| 21:49.24 | Klaus_Dieter | nah I will not switch away from alsa |
| 21:49.34 | JohnTitor | heh |
| 21:49.59 | JohnTitor | whatever floats your goat (I love that expression) |
| 21:50.11 | jaggz | screams at JohnTitor like a goat |
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| 21:50.16 | JohnTitor | heh |
| 21:51.27 | pseudonymous | JohnTitor: of I'm sure all those cornercases got easier. But meanwhile a lot of us had broken sound installs with the most mundane setups in the world. |
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| 21:53.42 | JohnTitor | pseudonymous: everytime I see pulseadio issues here is about muted devices or just hw issues, since pulseadio runs at top of alsa I cannot see how can it be *worse* |
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| 21:54.43 | Olivier | hello, I would to know how can I create a live USB debian please |
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| 21:56.09 | pseudonymous | JohnTitor: Because given that pa works atop alsa I can now have a borked alsa setup and have pa fail because of that or it might be pa which is misconfigured. Generally speaking, you don't want to debug with multiple potential failure sources |
| 21:56.17 | Sayona | Question: it |
| 21:56.42 | Sayona | it's a software for debian how shutdown my linux and power up when i put the time? |
| 21:56.50 | JohnTitor | pseudonymous: pa cannot be misconfigured since is has no configuration at all (by default) |
| 21:56.54 | JohnTitor | it* |
| 21:57.32 | Olivier | would to know how can I create a live USB for debian please |
| 21:57.55 | pseudonymous | if there's the possiblity of configuring pa, then there's a reason why that possibility exists (i.e. a potential need is addressed by configuring it) hence there's a potential headache. |
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| 21:58.29 | pseudonymous | olivier: a bootable USB or do you want to actually install Debian into the USB ? |
| 21:58.42 | Olivier | a Bootable USB |
| 21:58.53 | Olivier | I tried unetbootin but I doesn't work |
| 21:59.04 | missmbob | Olivier: i told you it wouldn't work |
| 21:59.33 | missmbob | i told you to use win32diskimager |
| 21:59.34 | Klaus_Dieter | argh, I just tried to write an audio stream to /dev/null and instead of just dumping the stream into the device arecord decided it would be wise to delete /dev/null and place a wav file there. |
| 21:59.35 | Olivier | yes but I need a Bootable USB |
| 21:59.43 | missmbob | !win32diskimager |
| 21:59.43 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 21:59.58 | missmbob | for the second time read ^^ |
| 22:00.07 | Olivier | I tried windiskimager but The program don't work correctly |
| 22:00.07 | pseudonymous | Olivier: seems simple enough, the ISO you downloaded seems to be setup to be bootable ( https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch04s03.html.en ) |
| 22:00.28 | pseudonymous | oh, you're stuck on windows right now ? |
| 22:00.29 | JohnTitor | Olivier: are you on linux or windows? |
| 22:00.40 | Olivier | windows |
| 22:00.52 | JohnTitor | Olivier: it works in windows ^ |
| 22:01.08 | Olivier | yes but the program don't work correctly |
| 22:01.19 | JohnTitor | ಠ_ಠ|
| 22:01.50 | pseudonymous | Olivier: OK, strange, try another. E.g. https://rufus.akeo.ie/ |
| 22:02.03 | missmbob | no, dont ever use rufus |
| 22:02.06 | missmbob | !rufus |
| 22:02.06 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 22:02.19 | Olivier | Rufus or not... |
| 22:02.49 | JohnTitor | Olivier: this is a linux support channel, debian. I'm afraid we cannot help you with win32diskimager |
| 22:03.04 | pseudonymous | O.K... not rufus then. |
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| 22:03.16 | Olivier | okay, you know other program or not? |
| 22:03.26 | Olivier | daemon tools lite maybe.... |
| 22:03.30 | Olivier | I don't know |
| 22:03.38 | Klaus_Dieter | Olivier: the help text named unetbootin |
| 22:03.43 | debidi | Olivier: dd |
| 22:03.50 | missmbob | no, neverunetbootin |
| 22:03.55 | missmbob | !unetbootin |
| 22:03.55 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 22:04.02 | pseudonymous | Olivier: I've used win32 disk imager with some linux isos, worked fine. dd is also a nice way to go |
| 22:04.04 | JohnTitor | Olivier: are you trying to make a bootable usb installtion media= |
| 22:04.04 | Olivier | I tried unetbootin but the result is a text file on my USB |
| 22:04.12 | JohnTitor | ? |
| 22:04.15 | Olivier | yes |
| 22:04.20 | Olivier | I tried |
| 22:04.20 | LtL | Olivier: win 7 pro, and possibly other versions have 'isoburn.exe' it works perfectly |
| 22:04.35 | Olivier | oh okay |
| 22:04.40 | JohnTitor | Olivier: then I gues youre doing it wrong, win32diskimager works |
| 22:04.55 | Olivier | okay I try win32diskimager |
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| 22:05.13 | missmbob | seriously? now you try? i told you about it forever ago |
| 22:05.36 | Olivier | yes I tried but I go retry |
| 22:05.40 | Olivier | the program |
| 22:06.12 | Olivier | but, I already try |
| 22:06.15 | Olivier | don't worry |
| 22:06.29 | missmbob | i have to assume the program is in english and you're misreading something. |
| 22:06.50 | Olivier | yes I know |
| 22:06.57 | Olivier | I'm not good in English |
| 22:08.22 | JohnTitor | Olivier: it's just selecting the iso and the usb device ^ http://docs.kali.org/downloading/kali-linux-live-usb-install |
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| 22:08.52 | Olivier | the link is debian? |
| 22:09.32 | JohnTitor | it's the same I chose that one because it has images |
| 22:09.44 | Olivier | okay thank you for your help |
| 22:09.48 | JohnTitor | np |
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| 22:15.28 | Klaus_Dieter | so I have installed grub which displays a nice graphic boot menu. I have also plymouth installed which displays a nice startup animation. between the time the grub menu is shown and the startup animation is shown there is some ugly screen flickering and mode-siwtiching. is there a way of getting rid of this mess and just showing a nice graphic when booting? |
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| 22:18.25 | debidi | Klaus_Dieter: no |
| 22:19.17 | debidi | Klaus_Dieter: maybe perhaps if you made sure the video modes didn't need to be changed, then you might have to tweak configs |
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| 22:20.02 | Klaus_Dieter | debidi: that sounds it'd take some kernel recompiling.... it is really not *that* important to me. but it sure would be nice... thanks anyways :) |
| 22:20.36 | debidi | Klaus_Dieter: maybe not kernel, just the configs for grub and plymouth |
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| 22:22.56 | kupad | I'm trying, and failing, to get an external monitor working, with a USB-C -> DVI dongle, on my Dell XPS 13 laptop. This was working under the custom Dell OEM Ubuntu 14.04, but isn't currently working on Debian Testing. |
| 22:23.26 | kupad | google searches led me to: a forum post about a kernel patch that might fix it. but I checked that 4.6 already has the patch |
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| 22:24.04 | kupad | and also a suggestion to flash my BIOS. which I did with the latest BIOS |
| 22:24.10 | kupad | provided by Dell |
| 22:24.19 | RippyDippy | Odd question, is there a way to list all the channels on a server? |
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| 22:24.38 | debidi | RippyDippy: #freenode ? |
| 22:25.20 | missmbob | RippyDippy: /list -YES (at least on irssi) |
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| 22:25.42 | RippyDippy | missmbob: What does the -YES do? |
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| 22:26.00 | missmbob | RippyDippy: says "yes i know this is fucking stupid but do it" (seriously) |
| 22:26.34 | RippyDippy | missmbob: HAHAHA Ok. Yeah I see why. Its pretty much a useless output |
| 22:26.46 | debidi | RippyDippy: sounds llike you're on irssi.. but there's a listing on the www |
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| 22:27.21 | RippyDippy | debidi: Yeah irssi. I really didnt know what I expected beside a massive landslide of output. |
| 22:30.08 | debidi | RippyDippy: elist script for irssi |
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| 22:31.52 | JohnTitor | kupad: tried asking in #debian-next? (oftc network) |
| 22:32.26 | kupad | JohnTitor: I haven't, I'll give that a shot, thanks |
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| 22:56.57 | jaggz | why would amd64 installation images fail on a 64 bit desktop? |
| 22:57.59 | Klaus_Dieter | jaggz: did you check the shasum/md5sum before using them? |
| 22:58.35 | jaggz | no.. you think my http download actually got errors in it? I can check.. but .. |
| 22:59.26 | Klaus_Dieter | jaggz: yeah I know. but it is a good place to put an anchor for further analysis. |
| 22:59.51 | jaggz | okay yeah md5 checks out |
| 23:02.06 | jaggz | this is a 64 bit system.. (their page sucks.. but it supports an "AMD Athlon 64 X2 up to 6000+ (W)"). is this amd64 architecture? |
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| 23:02.10 | jaggz | http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01635734 |
| 23:02.49 | Klaus_Dieter | jaggz: yeah it is. |
| 23:03.09 | TomTomTosch | it is the correct arch. what happened when you tried to install? |
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| 23:03.31 | jaggz | reboots |
| 23:03.41 | jaggz | after choosing any option (install, graphical install, rescue) from the boot menu |
| 23:04.03 | jaggz | right after 2 lines (one of them seems to be extracting of vmlinuz .. hard to read) |
| 23:04.05 | Klaus_Dieter | jaggz: ah - which cpu did you put in it? |
| 23:04.21 | jaggz | not sure.. default cpu that came with it :) |
| 23:04.39 | winsen | Hi all |
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| 23:05.47 | Klaus_Dieter | jaggz: usually the system gives an error message saying it is the wrong architecture if you try to run that |
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| 23:06.08 | Klaus_Dieter | those "reboot whenever an error happens"-situations are really annoying |
| 23:08.12 | winsen | I recently try too configure network manager manually, but I think I did something wrong and the worst I can't log on wifi on network manager either. does anyone know how can I fix it or restore old cnfiguration? thanks |
| 23:09.12 | jaggz | Klaus_Dieter, you got me to look it up.. amd phenom II X4 840t processor |
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| 23:10.29 | jaggz | Klaus_Dieter, :/ |
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| 23:11.19 | jaggz | winsen, ever learn to connect to wifi from shell ? iwconfig ? |
| 23:11.46 | jaggz | winsen, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/92799/connecting-to-wifi-network-through-command-line |
| 23:12.00 | jaggz | Klaus_Dieter, yeah no system message.. sigh |
| 23:12.36 | jaggz | so if I install with i386 .. can I install a 64 bit kernel later and try booting from it.. and migrate to a 64 bit setup? |
| 23:12.41 | jaggz | this is really irritating |
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| 23:13.30 | missmbob | jaggz: no |
| 23:14.04 | jaggz | takes a deep breath |
| 23:17.20 | jaggz | missmbob, how do you add the nomodeset option at boot? |
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| 23:18.04 | missmbob | jaggz: in grub? you hit e |
| 23:18.25 | jaggz | yeah.. I hit tab.. then I just add the single word "nomodeset" |
| 23:18.58 | winsen | jaggz: I wonder if that will work but I try. otherwse how can I restore the old configuration? |
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| 23:19.00 | missmbob | to the linux line, yeah |
| 23:19.39 | jaggz | winsen, not sure what package .. but you can dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> I think |
| 23:19.51 | jaggz | missmbob, hmm.. only one line in these netinst boots |
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| 23:20.28 | missmbob | after you press e there will be more than one line |
| 23:20.37 | jaggz | oh.. maybe tab then e? |
| 23:20.46 | jaggz | intressin' |
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| 23:22.17 | winsen | How can I make network manager working first? |
| 23:22.37 | Wally | Just do it! |
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| 23:23.08 | winsen | unstead Wally: you're nice |
| 23:24.12 | bibble | Are the conf settings for 'unattended-upgrades' OK in this article ? |
| 23:24.14 | bibble | https://plusbryan.com/my-first-5-minutes-on-a-server-or-essential-security-for-linux-servers |
| 23:24.15 | Wally | winsen first step, where was the old config stored? |
| 23:24.34 | bhurstpdx | exit |
| 23:25.38 | winsen | unstead Wally: I don't know. why? |
| 23:26.02 | Wally | why are you calling me unstead Wally and thinking i'm going to joke? lol |
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| 23:26.24 | winsen | Wally: sorry; it's just lapsus |
| 23:27.28 | Wally | :) |
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| 23:30.07 | winsen | Wally: jaggz: I'll try. thanks for answering |
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| 23:38.29 | jaggz | ooh.. I'm booting.. I think with amd64 and i386 both working |
| 23:39.06 | jaggz | but I changed two things.. I re-enabled the bios no-execute feature, and switched sata to ahci instead of raid mode |
| 23:39.22 | jaggz | not sure which of those, if any, did it (or if I confused my usb sticks and have i386 on both of them) |
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| 23:48.56 | aZz7eCh | hi guys. i am having trouble copying 41 png and pdf files to my samba server. 99.99% of the files on my system copy over fine. any new files i make copy over fine, but any new 'screenshot*.png' files and important pdf's from emails, are refusing to copy over. Keep getting a rediculous dialog saying the files dont exist... its tryign to copy them, but says they dont exist |
| 23:50.05 | aZz7eCh | i can copy the same files to any other location on my hdd, or to an external usb ... its only copying to ANY samba share on my server, that they refuse |
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| 23:50.51 | aZz7eCh | there are a zillion other .png files that have copied over fine. and zillions of .pdfs aswell .. no idea why these are giving me grief |
| 23:59.32 | suboptimal90 | special characters in the title? |