| 00:00.45 | DC85 | mutante i have (a server) a root fs within a 2 disk RAID1 array plus a RAID10 array for data (4 disks+1 spare). Someone shutted down the computer the very wrong way holding the power button. The RAID10 array got messed up and im afraid i messed it up even further. |
| 00:02.23 | mutante | DC85: ? because more than 1 disk broke? |
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| 00:02.45 | mutante | DC85: i dont know that much about it myself, i just wanted to help out with the bot links |
| 00:04.01 | DC85 | mutante i was doing some checks with "mdadm --examine ..." on those hdds and with "mdadm -D /dev/mdX". Then i removed 2 disks from the RAID10 array and added them by mistake to the RAID1 array and now those drives are showing different data a i think i lost it... |
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| 00:06.14 | mutante | DC85: sorry, i dont know, but it's good that you are explaining it in detail to the channel for others to see |
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| 00:16.10 | _rubik | has anyone compiled the binaries of xcb-utils-xrm for non stretch? That would be REALLY helpful. |
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| 00:23.06 | revision | Sweet, this debootstrap-thing really is what I want. I got a linux kernel running with extlinux, now I just need to make it find the root partition. |
| 00:23.13 | revision | Thanks CutMeOwnThroat! |
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| 00:26.02 | odroid | apt remove libreoffice doesn't remove libreoffice |
| 00:26.10 | odroid | I have to put apt remove libreoffice-writer |
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| 00:26.15 | odroid | and then each of the programs |
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| 00:28.21 | revision | Hah! Using root=UUID=... worked like a charm, thank you a million times CutMeOwnThroat! :D |
| 00:28.27 | revision | Darn, he left... |
| 00:28.37 | OerHeks | odroid, apt remove libreoffice^ does it all, AFAIK |
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| 00:29.07 | mutante | odroid: cant confirm, but try "apt-get autoremove" too? |
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| 00:31.06 | pingfloyd | odroid: libreoffice is a meta-package |
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| 00:31.48 | pingfloyd | odroid: assuming you didn't mark as manually installed (manually install through apt-get etc) the packages it depends on, after you remove libreoffice, you should be able to do apt-get autoremove |
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| 00:34.46 | odroid | I did |
| 00:34.46 | odroid | it didn't remove libreoffice-writer |
| 00:34.47 | odroid | I had to remove libreoffice-core then autoremove |
| 00:34.47 | odroid | I think it's working now |
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| 00:50.51 | katronix | Hi all, a few days ago, someone suggested instead of using public_html in my user directory to instead use /var/www and make links from my user directory to /var/www. Everything seems to work fine but I can't save files using my editor which ftps in as my user. I've already added my user to the www-data directory, curious if anyone could help me fix the issue? Current error is #553: Permission denied, current permissions set to |
| 00:50.52 | katronix | -r--rw-r-- |
| 00:53.11 | pingfloyd | what's the ownership and perms on the directory? |
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| 00:55.38 | katronix | pingfloyd: sorry to clarify the directory I'm trying to save to is /var/www/humiq the humiq directory is owned by www-data:www-data its perms are drwxrwxr-x, I guess it needs to be 777? |
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| 00:56.14 | pingfloyd | don't do that |
| 00:56.26 | pingfloyd | add the user that needs to write there to www-data group |
| 00:56.39 | pingfloyd | then log that user out and back in |
| 00:57.28 | katronix | I'm connecting to the server via a program on my computer, do I need to exit the app also? |
| 00:57.37 | katronix | (the app is a web editor) |
| 00:58.05 | pingfloyd | you might |
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| 00:58.28 | pingfloyd | you can check with groups command |
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| 00:59.22 | katronix | I did, and I am part of the www-group group |
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| 01:00.47 | katronix | well it works now, thanks pingfloyd ! |
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| 01:03.49 | pingfloyd | no problem |
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| 01:26.06 | Somelauw | I have changed my browser using update-alternatives yet some programs still open a different browser. Is there another browser selection mechanism that some use? |
| 01:27.02 | MaBunny | use default options to select a particular file |
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| 01:31.40 | pingfloyd | Somelauw: do you use a DE? |
| 01:32.21 | Somelauw | no |
| 01:33.01 | Somelauw | but one of the programs that opens a different browser is zotero |
| 01:33.44 | Somelauw | well, gnome-www-browser is set to iceweasel |
| 01:33.56 | pingfloyd | what about x-www-browser |
| 01:33.57 | Somelauw | which doesn't exist anymore |
| 01:33.59 | missmbob | did you set sensible-browser? |
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| 01:35.07 | pingfloyd | there can be quite a few places that control default web browser |
| 01:35.13 | Somelauw | pingfloyd: also iceweasel |
| 01:35.22 | pingfloyd | also other apps may be calling the executable more directly |
| 01:35.30 | Somelauw | but x-www-browser always opens firefox for me |
| 01:35.38 | Somelauw | missmbob: opens firefox too |
| 01:35.46 | Somelauw | python webbrowser.open opens firefox |
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| 01:36.41 | missmbob | i've heard firefox and iceweasel so i don't know what you're talking about. or what is opening in it's stead |
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| 01:42.41 | Somelauw | missmbob: it was set to iceweasel, but not it's set to firefox, but running iceweasel just runs firefox so it doesn't really matter. it's opening palemoon instead. |
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| 02:02.49 | LadyInRed | is there a command to list all users of a system?? |
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| 02:03.40 | TomTomTo1 | cat /etc/passwd |
| 02:03.56 | LadyInRed | ok |
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| 02:04.48 | LadyInRed | whts tht Tom?? |
| 02:05.28 | TomTomTo1 | it's has all usernames listed in the first field. |
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| 02:05.47 | LadyInRed | ok |
| 02:05.54 | missmbob | i was still wonderfing what they meant. mysql users? mail users? shell users? *shrug* |
| 02:06.15 | missmbob | and the lack of vowels is alarming |
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| 02:06.51 | LadyInRed | so |
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| 02:07.16 | LadyInRed | whts the command to output the root user of a sys? |
| 02:07.35 | missmbob | it's called root |
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| 02:08.00 | TomTomTo1 | output the root user? |
| 02:08.10 | TomTomTo1 | 3d print him? |
| 02:08.23 | missmbob | sexist |
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| 02:08.38 | LadyInRed | no |
| 02:08.41 | TomTomTo1 | :> |
| 02:08.50 | LadyInRed | the name of the root user |
| 02:08.55 | missmbob | it's root |
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| 02:09.04 | Somelauw | i think i found it sort of. gnome-open 'http://something' opens palemoon, even though gnome-www-browser is set to firefox-esr |
| 02:09.17 | Somelauw | Gnome is thus at fault and I don't even have gnome installed |
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| 02:10.36 | LadyInRed | ok will be back in 15 mins from computer |
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| 02:11.49 | pingfloyd | LadyInRed: taking a vowel movement? |
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| 02:12.38 | missmbob | i'm kind of ashamed to not have thought of that |
| 02:12.45 | stoned | smh |
| 02:14.00 | rjsalts | getent passwd > cat /etc/passwd |
| 02:14.54 | Somelauw | please backup etc/passwd or something |
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| 02:15.44 | rjsalts | I was saying getent passwd is better than cat /etc/passwd, not a redirect |
| 02:15.47 | Somelauw | what are you doing |
| 02:16.06 | pingfloyd | bad way to say it |
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| 02:16.10 | Somelauw | oh, it looked like a scary comment to me |
| 02:16.16 | rjsalts | in retrospect, yeah |
| 02:16.16 | Somelauw | code* |
| 02:16.28 | Somelauw | i'm supertired |
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| 02:16.40 | missmbob | Somelauw: you were actually right |
| 02:17.08 | missmbob | i didn't see it as "greater than" either |
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| 02:20.16 | TomTomTo1 | i'm too lazy to remember that. |
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| 02:23.10 | rjsalts | It's probably not going to be much different, but if you have an exotic backend for passwords and it enumerates all users then they will show up in getent passwd, but not cat /etc/passwd |
| 02:23.45 | TomTomTo1 | fair enough. |
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| 02:24.43 | rjsalts | most things like ldap/sssd don't enumerate all the users, you have to ask them, who has this uid, or is foo a valid username |
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| 03:13.44 | ByteStorm | yello |
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| 03:15.56 | ByteStorm | hey hey |
| 03:16.03 | ByteStorm | why cant i change nick |
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| 03:28.19 | gtsr | i was installed debian |
| 03:28.34 | gtsr | it got hacked when i plugged in the eth cable during install |
| 03:28.36 | gtsr | you know, |
| 03:28.40 | gtsr | i never made it to the desktop |
| 03:29.07 | jmcnaught | gtsr: how do you know it got hacked? |
| 03:29.12 | gtsr | yes |
| 03:29.23 | gtsr | someone hacker locked it through the internet |
| 03:29.27 | gtsr | the ethernet cable, i assume |
| 03:29.51 | jmcnaught | what did you see on your screen that led you to believe that it was hacked? |
| 03:29.58 | gtsr | is there like a xp or windows channel on freenode |
| 03:30.01 | gtsr | lets hope so |
| 03:30.11 | gtsr | it straight didnt work i dunno |
| 03:30.16 | gtsr | felt like |
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| 03:30.24 | gtsr | when u install windows 2000 and someone |
| 03:30.32 | gtsr | locks the pc after u boot once |
| 03:30.37 | gtsr | like the pw is stolen |
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| 03:30.41 | gtsr | and the station is locked |
| 03:30.43 | gtsr | kind of thing |
| 03:31.02 | gtsr | pc, box, computer |
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| 03:31.24 | gtsr | router, switch, multiplier |
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| 03:32.36 | gtsr | i guess no one calls it a multiplier |
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| 03:33.28 | gtsr | whats with the different freenode thingies |
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| 03:33.33 | gtsr | is one better than another |
| 03:33.37 | gtsr | like morgan better than tepper |
| 03:33.55 | gtsr | freenode secrets |
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| 03:34.54 | gtsr | i guess knoppix is a form of debian |
| 03:35.00 | gtsr | its debian based |
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| 03:37.28 | bezaban | its not |
| 03:37.45 | bezaban | it's a derivative |
| 03:38.05 | WormFood | he's left the channel. He can't see what you said |
| 03:38.20 | bezaban | so helpful |
| 03:38.52 | bezaban | sorry |
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| 04:38.05 | MarkovianIdiot | shw83fb2do1bwb . we have been working on the other side, but I don't know if you want me know f73yc727d |
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| 04:38.20 | MarkovianIdiot | the other side, but it was a little more. if you are looking to buy it now, and the kids, but it is the best way to do it for you, and I am going through a lot more to the next week and the kids, but I am going through |
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| 05:16.51 | technologov | hi all ! I have debmirror issues |
| 05:16.52 | technologov | http://pastebin.com/gjYqdWwn |
| 05:16.59 | technologov | http://pastebin.com/CEQt7snG |
| 05:17.10 | technologov | Any ideas ? |
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| 05:28.37 | OtakuSenpai | keep it simple |
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| 05:29.04 | OtakuSenpai | try http://httpredir.debian.org/debian main |
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| 05:30.11 | OtakuSenpai | *jessie main |
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| 05:33.32 | jmcnaught | technologov: https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror asks not to use ftp.debian.org |
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| 05:34.12 | OtakuSenpai | jmcnaught hey bro |
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| 05:34.38 | jmcnaught | hi |
| 05:34.54 | technologov | jmcnaught, yeah, I have switched to ftp2.de.debian.org |
| 05:35.13 | technologov | anyway I had to disable GPG check, as I had getting errors |
| 05:35.15 | OtakuSenpai | my debian is installed btw |
| 05:35.31 | OtakuSenpai | GPG is sec signature |
| 05:36.23 | technologov | I have installed debian-keyring, and deapite that GPG checks failed with debianmirror |
| 05:36.44 | OtakuSenpai | maybe try a diff mirror |
| 05:37.15 | OtakuSenpai | srry but i cant view the link aatm |
| 05:37.55 | technologov | lemme finish download (without GPG check), then we will revisit the problem |
| 05:38.14 | jmcnaught | technologov: does the user have a line like "keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg" in their ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf? Check the /usr/share/doc/debian-keyring/README.gz |
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| 05:39.13 | technologov | jmcnaught, nope |
| 05:39.57 | technologov | and I only want to download stuff |
| 05:40.06 | technologov | why should I create my own keys ? |
| 05:40.33 | technologov | I don't have ~/.gnupg/ at all |
| 05:40.38 | jmcnaught | technologov: you're not creating your own keys, you're making the keys in debian-keyring accessible to the user that is doing mirroring |
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| 05:41.12 | jmcnaught | i've never attempted to mirror, but if you are getting GPG errors that could be the issue. you could also post the errors |
| 05:41.17 | technologov | jmcnaught, it doesn't make sense. (public) Keys should be accessible to everybody, by default. |
| 05:41.58 | technologov | (to all users in Debian system) |
| 05:42.30 | technologov | just like public keys of root CA SSL certificates are accessible to all web clients (all users) |
| 05:43.09 | jmcnaught | technologov: "gpg --list-keys" doesn't scan the entire hard drive, it looks for keys in ~/.gnupg. The keys in /usr/share/keyrings *are* accessible to all users on the systems, but they need to point configure their gnupg settings to know to look for them their |
| 05:43.13 | jmcnaught | errr.. there |
| 05:44.41 | technologov | jmcnaught, something is very very wrong with this architecture... it needs to be accessible to all users, just like SSL certificates (root CA keys) are |
| 05:45.44 | jmcnaught | technologov: not all users want the entire debian keyring mixed in with their own personal keyring. but i might be wrong about your issue, it's not clear what GPG error you're talking about |
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| 05:52.47 | simonlnu | wouldn't want the entirety of debian's keyring in his personal stuff |
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| 05:54.14 | simonlnu | also notes ke is doing the update and break thing in sid |
| 05:54.17 | simonlnu | kde* |
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| 06:30.44 | Elronnd | I accidentally set my root shell to a faulty path, and despite my doing export SHELL=/bin/bash, and su --shell /bin/bash --preserver-environment, I still get "Cannot execute faultypath: No such file or directory |
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| 06:34.16 | JonSnow | Hi...i am not able to understand how to extend my LVM....can it be done without actually formatting my physical device ? |
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| 06:35.47 | musca | Elronnd: did you try su? |
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| 06:36.09 | Elronnd | musca: that's *literally* what I just did, and what I just said I did |
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| 06:37.14 | mgedmin | JonSnow: could you clarify your question? |
| 06:37.16 | musca | Elronnd: yes, sorry. |
| 06:37.26 | mgedmin | LVM is the Logical Volume Manager; how does one extend a manager? |
| 06:37.35 | mgedmin | you can extend a logical volume |
| 06:37.42 | mgedmin | you can extend a volume group |
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| 06:38.08 | mgedmin | also, formatting physical devices is not something one does these days, now that floppy disks are dead |
| 06:38.11 | JonSnow | My current partition table is like this: http://pastebin.com/iNcpkWnN (output of fdisk, pvs, vgs, lvs).....my root volume is almost full and i need to expand it...i have considered getting it free but that doesn't seem likely to happen... |
| 06:38.18 | mgedmin | you can format filesystems |
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| 06:39.08 | mgedmin | can you pastebin the output of df? |
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| 06:39.30 | musca | mgedmin: installing thin-provisioning-tools could count as extending the manager |
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| 06:40.13 | mgedmin | you don't have any free space in your volume group, so to enlarge the root volume you'd have to either add more space (e.g. a 2nd hard disk), or shrink some other volume (home) |
| 06:40.28 | JonSnow | mgedmin: output of df: http://pastebin.com/GEHPm7az |
| 06:40.48 | mgedmin | you can do all that without losing data (in theory; if you don't make mistakes and don't stumble upon bugs) |
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| 06:41.36 | JonSnow | mgedmin: ok..that sounds inspiring...any tutorial or guide available? how do i go about it ? |
| 06:41.48 | mgedmin | resize2fs can do online resizing, but I'm not sure it can _shrink_ a mounted filesystem |
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| 06:41.56 | mgedmin | the manual page implies it can only expand one |
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| 06:42.44 | mgedmin | so, you'd need to unmount /home |
| 06:43.11 | mgedmin | is this a desktop or a server? by which I mean, is there a GUI desktop running? |
| 06:43.14 | jelly | shrinking has to be done offline, and there's a required forced fsck step before it |
| 06:43.32 | JonSnow | mgedmin: it's a desktop..running a GUI |
| 06:44.02 | mgedmin | I would expect the desktop to keep a bunch of files in /home open, preventing unmounting |
| 06:44.24 | jelly | and it's often faster to backup, nuke the filesystem, create a smaller one and restore than to shrink |
| 06:44.30 | mgedmin | so to shrink /home, you'd have to shut down the GUI (sudo service gdm stop -- or whatever display manager you have) and log in into a text console |
| 06:44.36 | mgedmin | OR boot from a livecd of some kind |
| 06:44.58 | JonSnow | mgedmin: yes..i imagined a livecd of some kind |
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| 06:45.03 | mgedmin | I wish I could recommend a good guide |
| 06:45.07 | mgedmin | or a good tool |
| 06:45.36 | JonSnow | jelly: no...don't want to nuke the filesystem! :( |
| 06:45.37 | mgedmin | I mean I can google and find something like https://www.rootusers.com/lvm-resize-how-to-decrease-an-lvm-partition/ |
| 06:45.46 | mgedmin | skimming it looks like a reasonable thing |
| 06:46.03 | mgedmin | the steps are (1) unmount, (2) fsck, (3) resize2fs, (4) lvreduce |
| 06:46.04 | jelly | JonSnow: did you even read the rest |
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| 06:46.28 | mgedmin | be very very sure when calling lvreduce that you're not shrinking the logical volume to a size smaller than the filesystem size you specified in step 3 |
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| 06:47.21 | JonSnow | jelly: yes...but restoring from backup is painful |
| 06:47.23 | mgedmin | another option would be to plug in an extra external HDD (formatted as ext4 ideally so you can preserve symlinks and file permissions) |
| 06:47.34 | mgedmin | copy everything from your /home there, nuke the current /home partition and create a smaller one, format, copy files back |
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| 06:47.49 | mgedmin | on the plus side you get a free backup :) |
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| 06:48.26 | jelly | JonSnow: and doing shrinking is usually more painful |
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| 06:48.52 | noobish-noob | I cannot download Debian |
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| 06:49.27 | JonSnow | jelly, mgedmin : this method of nuking the filesystem and restoring from backup just sounds scary to me. but the way you guys are mentioning it; it seems like everything will be back to the normal scenario |
| 06:50.19 | JonSnow | i think i'll go ahead with nuking the filesystem and restoring from a back... |
| 06:51.01 | mgedmin | whichever method you're more confident in |
| 06:51.23 | mgedmin | useful tip for the future: don't; allocate all the space for logical volumes at once |
| 06:51.31 | mgedmin | see how they grow and resize as necessary |
| 06:51.35 | noobish-noob | is there any way to get debian over a 56k modem in less than a week? |
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| 06:51.48 | mmin | exit |
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| 06:52.05 | noobish-noob | I live with my grandma and she is not open to getting cable or dial up or satellite |
| 06:52.22 | noobish-noob | See, my other grandparents where killed by nigger gangs in Compton |
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| 06:52.46 | JonSnow | mgedmin: yes..seems like it.. |
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| 06:53.03 | JonSnow | thanks jelly mgedmin |
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| 06:54.40 | wildleaf | hi |
| 06:55.21 | wildleaf | how do you set the timezone for a specific user on a system? |
| 06:55.23 | OtakuSenpai | repartitioning again and again is bad btw |
| 06:55.44 | OtakuSenpai | tzdata maybe |
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| 06:55.59 | mgedmin | the closest you can get is have that user export TZ=... in their ~/.profile or something |
| 06:56.26 | mgedmin | of course .profile is not sourced for non-interactive shells, so 'ssh user@yourmachine date' will still use the gobal timezone ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 06:56.33 | mgedmin | unless maybe pam_environment can help somehow |
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| 06:57.35 | Elronnd | I accidentally set my root shell to a faulty path, and despite my doing export SHELL=/bin/bash, and su --shell /bin/bash --preserver-environment, I still get "Cannot execute faultypath: No such file or directory |
| 06:58.14 | wildleaf | mgedmin: so youre saying that i wont matter when sshing into the machine? |
| 06:58.19 | wildleaf | it* |
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| 06:59.45 | mgedmin | no, ssh'ing for interactive sessions sources .profile |
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| 07:01.12 | mgedmin | a thing that has nothing to do with debian ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 07:01.26 | mgedmin | a class that is meant only to be subclassed and that cannot be instantiated |
| 07:01.28 | mgedmin | a programming term |
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| 07:08.42 | wildleaf | thanks mgedmin that helped a lot :) just had to narrow down my google fu |
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| 09:04.07 | berty | hello guys, i need an advice about software... I want a remote control windows 7 from debian, adivce? |
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| 09:04.36 | jelly | berty: xfreerdp is a working remote desktop client |
| 09:04.54 | jelly | there's also remmina |
| 09:05.12 | berty | jelly: remmina doesn't work, but server on windows 7? |
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| 09:06.07 | jelly | there's a command line parameter to connect to the console |
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| 09:08.09 | hgutmann | Hello. |
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| 09:08.32 | bzed | berty: remmina works well, but they all do rdp and they'll create a new session. you might need some vnc server which shares the current session.... |
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| 09:09.55 | hgutmann | I'm currently struggling with a phenomena which I can't grasp so far. I've exim, which calls a transport script (email2fax) when receiving a mail. Exim hands over some variables like $sender_address ($1) and a part of the email address ($2). |
| 09:10.24 | hgutmann | Now I've already debugged it down to a single line in the script, which fuzzes up $1 & $2 when the line is active. |
| 09:10.38 | hgutmann | The line looks like this: mpack -s "Successful Fax to ${1}" -d ${TMP_LOG} ${TMP_FAX} ${2} |
| 09:11.03 | hgutmann | interpreter is set with #!/bin/sh, /bin/sh points to dash |
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| 09:13.13 | hgutmann | As soon as I uncomment the line in the script I do receive as $1 .... okayyyyy, light went on... starting to grasp what's going on... |
| 09:13.37 | hgutmann | Sometimes it helps to have a self conversation when audience is there... ;) |
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| 09:16.05 | mazert_ | hello, i try to upgrade gear (a mail client) from 0.8 -> 0.11 by using jessie backport. |
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| 09:16.51 | mazert_ | But after adding the repository, and refreshing packages list. apt do not want to upgrade geary, no updates are available |
| 09:17.16 | hgutmann | Just in case someone wants to know: mpack sends report to the sender, which is again hitting my transport filter for mail2fax since the regex is set too loose there. Calling my script a 2nd time resulting in the values I didn't expect there. |
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| 09:17.31 | hgutmann | Didn't have the 2nd hit of the transport in exim on my radar. |
| 09:18.10 | hgutmann | Need to set the transport / command execution to numeric hits only. |
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| 09:20.40 | jelly | ,v geary |
| 09:20.41 | judd | Package: geary on amd64 -- jessie: 0.8.2-1; jessie-backports: 0.11.1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.11.1-1; stretch: 0.11.1-1 |
| 09:20.57 | mazert_ | ok, i have to explicitly set the repository source when i use apt (with -t option) |
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| 09:21.25 | mazert_ | but i do not udnerstand why |
| 09:21.28 | jelly | that's intentional for backports. |
| 09:21.55 | jelly | this way you won't get EVERYTHING upgraded to versions available in backports repo |
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| 09:22.22 | jelly | however once you installed something with -t jessie-backports, it will keep getting upgrades from there |
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| 09:24.28 | mazert_ | Ok i understand the reason. Can you tell me how it is possible, the repository has special headers for this ? |
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| 09:27.15 | jelly | yes |
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| 09:27.56 | jelly | NotAutomatic: yes |
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| 09:28.05 | jelly | mazert_: in the Release file |
| 09:29.02 | mazert_ | jelly: thanks you :) |
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| 10:17.50 | dethegeek | Hi all |
| 10:18.21 | dethegeek | I'm having issues with Nouveau and several computer (1st gen i7) |
| 10:18.53 | dethegeek | I searched for nvidia drivers, because I can't let my comput ers crashing |
| 10:19.14 | dethegeek | I'm surprised to see some packages providing the NVidia drivers |
| 10:19.27 | dethegeek | I always thought there were closed source |
| 10:19.51 | dethegeek | can someone tell me about this point ? |
| 10:20.34 | technologov | Nouveau = open-source drivers |
| 10:20.41 | technologov | NVIDIA = closed-source drivers |
| 10:20.53 | technologov | NVIDIA are working perfectly; but I never used Nouveau drivrs |
| 10:21.16 | dethegeek | thanks, |
| 10:22.36 | dethegeek | unfortunately, I must switch to NVidia.. I'm thinking about my next computer : would be better to switch to AMD graphics ? |
| 10:23.29 | technologov | dethegeek, NVIDIA are working great with Linux with closed-source drivers |
| 10:24.26 | dethegeek | technologov: yes, I know, one of my computers switched to to diagnose potential issue (GPU used by a VM with pass through) |
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| 10:24.53 | dethegeek | I just want to use open source at most |
| 10:25.57 | dethegeek | I got readings years ago about AMD's GPU and their contribution with the linux community |
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| 10:27.04 | dethegeek | today I'm not aware of how they provide data to the community, and about the quality of their drivers . I preferred NVidia since... ever |
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| 10:27.29 | dethegeek | when I was still running an too closed system ;) |
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| 10:31.47 | technologov | dethegeek, Intel GPUs are most open |
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| 10:31.59 | technologov | AMD in between; average speed; average openness |
| 10:32.08 | technologov | NVIDIA are fastest but least open |
| 10:32.30 | technologov | so for cross-platform gamers (Windows gamers + Linux users) NVIDIA makes sense |
| 10:32.42 | technologov | for 100% Linux users, Intel GPUs makes sense |
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| 10:33.14 | technologov | NVIDIA also have much better support for old Linux distros |
| 10:33.23 | dethegeek | as I'm focusing exclusively on linux and prefer open source games (or clones or very oldies) this makes sense to me to switch to AMD or Intel. |
| 10:33.39 | technologov | so if you have a ten year old Linux dsitro, such as RHEL5 your chances with NVIDIA GPUs are much better |
| 10:33.51 | venkat_330 | Possiblity of forcing user not to use previous password . |
| 10:33.52 | dethegeek | I'm under debian testing |
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| 10:35.25 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.29 | dethegeek | I st arted with debian, and over the time I appreciate the way debian choose whick packages are available in the main repos |
| 10:35.46 | bazhang | thats where testing is supported dethegeek |
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| 10:36.33 | technologov | dethegeek, for 100% Linux users with new distro, Intel GPU makes most sense IMO; Best open-source support. For Intel - Open-Source driver is the primary and the ONLY ONE exist for Linux |
| 10:36.38 | dethegeek | bazhang: thanks, I'll keep this in mind. For now I know my issue is about Nouveau : the other system with VM is a Proxmox box, then under debian st able :) |
| 10:36.50 | onra_ | hi, can someone help me ? I'm trying to let the Debian installer use my WiFi |
| 10:36.57 | onra_ | I've put the firmware on an ext2 partition on the USB key, but the installer can't find it |
| 10:36.58 | technologov | i.e. they don't have proprietary features in the proprietary drivers under the table |
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| 10:38.02 | dethegeek | Thank you very much for your suggestions. I'll have a deep look to Intel, I already thought they're are probably the best choice for open source, but I never found a powerful GPU (not serched too, I must admit) |
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| 10:38.14 | Antares | ÐаÑалог ÑлекÑÑообоÑÑÐ´Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ 2016 http://2016.rexant.info/files/rexant_proconnect_16_web.pdf |
| 10:38.27 | Antares | http://кибеÑампеÑ.ÑÑ |
| 10:38.38 | technologov | dethegeek, they are not too powerful, but they can handle basic OpenGL |
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| 10:39.25 | dethegeek | this may be a bit low for gzDoom, with my preferred mod.. and my VR heradset project |
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| 10:41.34 | dethegeek | Anyway, I'll use a dedicated computer for most games, I'll keep the nvidia device already plugged. I cannot throw a working device |
| 10:41.57 | dethegeek | .. maybe bin would be more approriate word... |
| 10:42.07 | linuxthefish | hey, how come wifi only comes up at boot with an ethernet cable plugged in? |
| 10:42.07 | dethegeek | anyway I must leave now. Thanks you again |
| 10:42.14 | dethegeek | bye |
| 10:42.14 | linuxthefish | i'm using interfaces file to configure it |
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| 10:44.21 | MikeSeth | Antares: и заÑем нам ÑÑо говно? |
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| 10:45.09 | Antares | ÑÑ Ñе ÑÑÑкаÑÑ? |
| 10:45.13 | Antares | пакÑпаÑÑ |
| 10:45.37 | MikeSeth | ÑÑ
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| 10:46.07 | Antares | надо поÑÐ¾Ð¼Ñ ÑÑо |
| 10:46.18 | MikeSeth | мне не надо, пÑогоÑай бÑÑÑÑее |
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| 11:44.57 | bumbar | im trying to install vlc, but says it has unmet dependecies, so i've tried running apt-get install -f but it's not working, https://dpaste.de/9iHu |
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| 11:45.55 | Tester123 | Hello, On debian 8 i cannot ping to a host in a domain named domain.local. Example hostname is mercury.domain.local. I am able to ping as mercury and domain search kicks in. But using it with domain name it shows as host is not found. My searches said that it can be a problem because avahi-daemon uses .local domain but said configuration in my config is commented out. Also after deactivating avahi it is still cannot be pinged. |
| 11:45.56 | ransur0t | bumbar: what debian release, architecture, etc? |
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| 11:46.42 | ransur0t | bumbar: try aptitude install vlc |
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| 11:47.53 | bumbar | ransur0t: dont have aptitude installed nor can i install it (unmet dependencies error) |
| 11:47.59 | rjsalts | bumbar, looks like you've got problems with trying to overwrite shared '/etc/vdpau_wrapper.cfg', which is different from other instances of package libvdpau1:amd64 in that paste |
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| 11:48.17 | rjsalts | bumbar, this is most likely conflict between amd64 version and i386 version |
| 11:48.18 | bumbar | ransur0t: i've had debian 8, amd64, but it seems ive landed on sid branch |
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| 11:49.07 | ransur0t | paste output of /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:14.40 | Jaleks | is there some grub parameter to not resume into last hibernation state, but start normal? |
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| 12:17.45 | Tester123 | i found the solution. By changing domain-name to something else from .local it searches again |
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| 12:17.57 | bumbar | ransur0t: sources.list https://dpaste.de/aGC3 |
| 12:17.58 | c-c | Jaleks: thats is a little vague |
| 12:18.22 | Rephlexie | Tester123, what did you edit out of curiosity? |
| 12:18.50 | c-c | Jaleks: do you mean - not to restart from suspend when system restarts for some strange reason? (suspend is not supposed to restart bios+bootloader afaics) |
| 12:20.31 | Jaleks | i want to cancel the hibernated state and boot normal, as if the system had not been hibernated before |
| 12:21.02 | ransur0t | bumbar: you've got sources from stable and unstable/sid -- I suggest removing (commenting out) the version you don't want, then do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, see if that resolves your dependency issue with vlc |
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| 12:27.21 | technol9 | hi all! Today I found out about a new command : implantisomd5 that can really implant an MD5 sum into ISO 9660 image. Any ideas on how to read it? |
| 12:27.36 | technol9 | (Red Hat anaconda use it) |
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| 12:29.08 | Jaleks | "can later be compared (...) using the corresponding checkisomd5 command", says the man page, technol9 |
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| 12:32.07 | c-c | technol9: thats not in Jessie -> off-topic here |
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| 12:32.41 | technol9 | c-c implant Md5sum is part of Debian |
| 12:33.05 | bumbar | ransur0t: didnt work. ive tried both stable and unstable (seperately) but both times i get unmet dependencies when i run apt-get update |
| 12:33.07 | technol9 | So Debian can clearly write such codes, but how to read it? |
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| 12:42.56 | lss8 | there's a website which shows you which version of a given software ships on different platforms like Debian 7, 8, Ubuntu 15, .. I forgot it's address. Can somebody help? :) |
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| 12:44.49 | jelly | technol9: dunno, I'd look at all the tools in the isomd5sum package |
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| 12:45.32 | jelly | c-c: yes it is in jessie |
| 12:45.48 | jelly | judd: file bin/checkisomd5 |
| 12:45.51 | judd | Search for bin/checkisomd5 in jessie/amd64: isomd5sum: usr/bin/checkisomd5 |
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| 12:47.34 | Rephlexie | lss8, packages.debian.org ? |
| 12:47.35 | technologov | jelly, yeah, thanks ! indeed |
| 12:47.55 | technologov | jelly, I really came by random chance on this command (implantisomd5) |
| 12:48.03 | lss8 | Rephlexie: but that only works for debian packages. the website I'm looking for also looks for ubuntu and other distro's packages |
| 12:48.13 | technologov | when I was remastering Red Hat DVD, but it seems useful in many cases |
| 12:48.25 | technologov | both for Debian and other stuff |
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| 12:52.48 | vespertine | I'm running kali as a vmware guest and ever since I created a new user theres always a stop job running when I poweroff the vm. "(1 of 2) A stop job is running for User Manager UID 133 / (2 of 2) A stop job is running for Session c1 of user Debian-gdm" anyone knows what to do? |
| 12:53.10 | ransur0t | bumbar: apt-get dist-upgrade is probably a good thing to do ... |
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| 12:54.00 | petemc | !kali |
| 12:54.00 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 12:54.17 | vespertine | ok, sorry |
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| 13:13.26 | verm1n | !tails |
| 13:13.26 | dpkg | Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:13.29 | verm1n | neat |
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| 13:25.16 | Budd | I'm consdering backing up a Debian (Raspbian) system by archiving 1) a list of installed packages and 2) all non-original-package files. |
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| 13:26.06 | Budd | Are there any arguments against this, and how can I get a list of files that belong to a package but have been changed? |
| 13:26.47 | lss8 | yay. found the website: pkgs.org |
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| 13:27.14 | jelly | dpkg, tell Budd about things to backup |
| 13:27.19 | jelly | dpkg, tell Budd about aptitude clone |
| 13:27.22 | jelly | dpkg, tell Budd about raspbian |
| 13:27.50 | jelly | Budd: and also: /msg dpkg debsums |
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| 13:28.10 | jelly | for further help with raspbian ask in #raspbian channel please |
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| 13:28.36 | Budd | jelly: thanks. I didn't think this question was specific to raspbian. |
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| 13:33.38 | jelly | Budd: that doesn't matter. To ask here, what matters is whether you're using Debian or not |
| 13:33.51 | Budd | fair enough. |
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| 13:49.21 | erm3nda | Budd, for what you asked, i did the reverse way. I have a script to set up apt-get/pip/other packages, so i just have to keep track of the addition (in order to reinstall all of them to new box), and that of course in the case you don't wanna just clone it |
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| 13:50.29 | Budd | erm3nda: I dodn't know about that approach - thanks. |
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| 13:52.27 | erm3nda | Budd, seems you have to read a lot of things :-) before you can, starting from Unix folder structure and at least one scripting lang (bash,php,python) so you can install software programatically |
| 13:53.28 | Budd | erm3nda: my scripting background is decent, as well as general UNIX setup - I just haven't done anything with package management besides the basics. |
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| 13:54.11 | erm3nda | well, my background is so bad, but i made my own scripts to install packages, then get /etc confs back for the future |
| 13:54.29 | erm3nda | it's kinda easy as a text file with package names and a loop :-) that fires apt-get or whatever you need to |
| 13:55.39 | Budd | My home system is home-rolled, with each package-version-arch installed in a separate directory tree and merged by a hardlink-script. Very nice for compartmentalization, but not as nice to use as dpkg/apt. |
| 13:56.15 | Ekchuan | I need a strategy like this |
| 13:56.30 | Budd | (and certain things like xmlcatalog and gnome are hellish) |
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| 13:57.02 | erm3nda | :V seems you like things the hard way |
| 13:57.03 | erm3nda | enjoy |
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| 13:58.28 | c-c | erm3nda: in Debian you dont install packages using a script loop, you make a metapackage |
| 13:58.33 | Budd | I did it largely for the education. Compiling and setting up things from boot is a good (but necessarily useful) experience. |
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| 13:58.46 | c-c | a metapackage is, at simplest, a file with a list of packages to install |
| 13:59.18 | c-c | takes about 5 minutes to make, including googling up the instructions to do so |
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| 14:24.29 | indistylo | Folks, I want to do update ntp on my few GCE machines , I did enforced through puppet to all GCE machines, few of them dont got updated. I want deb7u7 version to get installed https://gist.github.com/arunsingh/ceded519ee64deb2f5c9c09060feea7d, Now my question is as root user should I do apt-get update to install ntp deb7u7 candidate or apt-get install 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u7 , Kindly suggest safe way |
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| 14:30.28 | unborn | indistylo: apt-get update ? if puppet then its not debian issue right? |
| 14:30.31 | jelly | indistylo: what's a GCE? Can you show the complete output of "apt-get update" and "apt-get install ntp"? |
| 14:30.40 | jelly | ,v ntp |
| 14:30.41 | judd | Package: ntp on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u7; jessie: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u2; sid: 1:4.2.8p8+dfsg-1; stretch: 1:4.2.8p8+dfsg-1 |
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| 14:33.22 | jelly | !bat |
| 14:33.23 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 14:33.47 | jelly | indistylo: ^^ |
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| 14:40.17 | indistylo | jelly: GCE is google compute engine machines |
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| 15:20.39 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 15:21.29 | johnfg | I've got my server, recently moved, all configured and accessible again I think, except for the web hosting. |
| 15:22.35 | johnfg | nslookup shows: `nslookup www.my.server` with the ip address that's expected, but I'm still not connecting from other (any) machines. |
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| 15:24.08 | johnfg | Is there somewhere in my config files where I'm supposed to change the address for my homepage? |
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| 15:31.04 | johnfg | Any ideas as to how I can find out what I need to reconfigure to have my homepage working and accessible? I do get to most of it, from the server, with localhost. But even that is not drawing in the other components that are looking to www.my.server |
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| 15:34.49 | c-c | johnfg: this is debian linux support |
| 15:35.22 | c-c | johnfg: your server conf has its own channel or forum |
| 15:35.22 | teclo- | heh |
| 15:35.35 | c-c | if it is apache, try #httpd |
| 15:35.35 | teclo- | and we won't help you with your dishwasher either |
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| 15:37.24 | johnfg | c-c: Yeah, is that #apache then? |
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| 15:41.29 | n3ptun | hi all. I have installed and using iptables-persistent. Is there no way to restart on-the-fly with something like "service iptables-persistent restart" ?? I cannot find any service, neither in /etc/init.d nor on systemd. I am running latest Jessie version. Any help appreciated |
| 15:41.44 | johnfg | What's the command to paste things on like, dpaste? |
| 15:43.07 | c-c | johnfg: use pastie or gist |
| 15:43.44 | johnfg | c-c: Thanks, I have pastebinit, which works too. |
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| 15:44.29 | c-c | johnfg: except most don't like it and some cannot read it |
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| 15:47.23 | jelly | johnfg: pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net # is just fine |
| 15:48.05 | jelly | johnfg: does "nslookup full.server.name" from a client system point to the right IP address? |
| 15:48.28 | jelly | johnfg: which debian release do you have on the server and which http server software? |
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| 15:49.24 | jelly | c-c: pastebinit even defaults to paste.debian.net on jessie, what are you talking about |
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| 15:49.45 | c-c | jelly: ask around. For example try pastebinning in #bash. |
| 15:49.59 | missmbob | you're thinking pastebin.com |
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| 15:51.58 | jelly | c-c: are you sure you know what you're talking about, the pastebinit tool |
| 15:51.59 | c-c | missmbob: exactly |
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| 15:52.15 | missmbob | c-c: right. we're not talking about the same thing. |
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| 15:52.21 | c-c | jelly: I am talking about pastebin.com |
| 15:52.27 | missmbob | c-c like jelly said, pastebinit defaults to paste.debian.net |
| 15:52.32 | c-c | my bad :) |
| 15:52.38 | jelly | c-c: that's not what the user said. |
| 15:52.41 | johnfg | jelly: I've got jessie, with all the latest updates, including for apache2. |
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| 15:55.09 | jelly | johnfg: you want to figure out: 1) whether your dns is correct, so clients can ask the correct server 2) whether network connectivity from client to server is fine, do packets arrive at the server 3) whether the traffic can reach the http service or there's a local firewall on the server |
| 15:55.31 | jelly | johnfg: 4) whether the http service is running and configured correctly |
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| 15:57.48 | jelly | johnfg: and unlike what c-c says, there are people that can help with debian specifics to some of these steps in here. |
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| 15:58.19 | jelly | punting a user to #httpd right away is silly when we don't know if httpd is to blame at all |
| 15:58.56 | jelly | c-c: so please avoid doing that in the future |
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| 16:00.56 | c-c | jelly: I do my best to avoid not understanding! |
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| 16:02.57 | c-c | jelly: I must add that you told me this is not a server support channel last winter so that is why I directed johnfg to #httpd |
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| 16:04.21 | johnfg | Oy vey! A comment about port 80 got me going. Somehow, port 80 wasn't opened on the router here at the new office, and when reconfiguring, I'd missed that. Thanks for being willing to help guys! |
| 16:04.23 | c-c | jelly: so, for the future? is this channel for supporting the software packages that come with debian or not? |
| 16:05.55 | johnfg | jelly: c-c: I understand the context you're speaking about. Of course, this is primarily a debian support channel. But there's much perhaps specific to debian/apache2/httpd, that you fine folks here would be willing to help with. |
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| 16:10.21 | jelly | c-c: of course it is |
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| 16:11.00 | jelly | johnfg: (router, tcp port 80) that'd be network connectivity yeah |
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| 16:15.57 | jelly | c-c: how do you tell what is "part of debian" and what is merely a package that "comes with debian" |
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| 16:20.26 | tremon | c-c: my criterion is if I can reproduce/investigate the issue on my local machine. If I can't do that (because of non-standard sources or exotic configuration) I might refer a person upstream |
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| 16:21.41 | tremon | but it also depends on how many other people in the channel are responding |
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| 16:22.33 | jelly | another reason for me avoiding pointing to #httpd right away is they get nervous with debian-specific config layout |
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| 16:30.06 | DC85 | Greetings, everyone, i'm in a RAID panic situation, can someone try to help |
| 16:30.52 | EmleyMoor | DC85: describe the situation |
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| 16:33.10 | DC85 | EmleyMoor I have a file server set up with two RAID arrays. One Array is raid 1 and holds the root file system. The other array is a RAID10 one and hold Data. The raid10 array is composed by 4 active disks and one spare disk. Let me describe further. |
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| 16:36.54 | DC85 | EmleyMoor some drive failed in this Raid10 array and it got disassembled. I did some checks with "mdadm -D /dev/mdX" which report 2 stoped drives. I then tried to assemble the array with "mdadm --assemble --scan" but the system couldnt do it. Let me describe it further. |
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| 16:38.48 | tremon | iirc, if mdadm -D still reports the array, it is still assembled |
| 16:38.59 | DC85 | EmleyMoor while trying to -add thoses two downed drives to their respective array, i by mistake entered another drive array, the file system one. Those two drives got added (by my mistake) as spare disks to the RAID1 array and seems that their super-block got written |
| 16:39.27 | DC85 | EmleyMoor i am now in panic and don't know what to do |
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| 16:40.23 | RoyK | DC85: Don't Panic (tm) |
| 16:40.40 | RoyK | DC85: I asked you on #linux-raid if you explain the problem, please do there |
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| 16:43.31 | DC85 | RoyK thank you mister may i copy the same thing i wrote? |
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| 16:49.14 | stoned | Is there a cli only sticky notes app for debian |
| 16:49.22 | stoned | I need to take notes so I don't forget but I don't use a gooey gui |
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| 16:57.32 | RoyK | stoned: it's called vim |
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| 17:01.22 | AlexLikeRock | someone app to upload pic to Open Street Maps? |
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| 17:05.06 | BlessJah | what is preffered and safe way to sufix/prefix LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable? |
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| 17:07.59 | tremon | BlessJah: systemwide, for one process, for one user? |
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| 17:08.27 | johnfg | To be sure: debian jessie uses apache2.conf instead of httpd.conf, correct? |
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| 17:12.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it must, because I don't have a httpd.conf |
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| 17:13.34 | BlessJah | tremon: doesn't matter - what I'm asking about is corner case |
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| 17:14.05 | BlessJah | assuming that LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/unimportant:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH is horrible idea |
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| 17:15.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | not so totally horrible |
| 17:15.47 | tremon | setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH is a horrible idea anyway |
| 17:15.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you can do better in bash |
| 17:16.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | tremon, not really horrible |
| 17:16.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | "it depends" |
| 17:16.41 | BlessJah | CutMeOwnThroat: try "touch libc.so.6 ; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/meh: ls" then |
| 17:16.43 | BlessJah | :D |
| 17:16.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | BlessJah, why'd I want to do that |
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| 17:17.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually I'm not even sure an empty element is interpreted as "." anymore |
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| 17:17.44 | BlessJah | you may happen to have that dangling ':' in LD_LIBRARY_PATH (see "horrible idea" above) and cd into directory that contains some libraries |
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| 17:18.38 | tremon | if I were writing something for me that needed LD_LIBRARY_PATH, I would always assume that it was empty and just clobber over it with whatever I need |
| 17:18.40 | BlessJah | yes, it is still interpreted as CWD, tested against sid, current and previous ubuntu LTS and centos |
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| 17:18.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can do something like this: echo bla${bla:-} |
| 17:19.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | then set bla=:xxx and do it again |
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| 17:19.43 | BlessJah | hum, might be solution at least for bash |
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| 17:20.31 | tremon | works in dash as well |
| 17:20.40 | BlessJah | good to know |
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| 17:28.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | BlessJah, anyway, modules |
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| 17:35.15 | BlessJah | after some thinking (and going through parameter substitution reference): simple if is far better |
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| 17:40.46 | spacebug^ | When running X as a normal user, root can open programs on X. Normal other user can't. How can I open up for one user to be able to do that? |
| 17:41.03 | nkuttler | spacebug^: root can't just open x apps, that's not true |
| 17:41.16 | nkuttler | in somebody elses session |
| 17:41.27 | spacebug^ | what the.. I think I have done that. Gonna check |
| 17:41.30 | BlessJah | spacebug^: you're probably looking for `xhost` |
| 17:41.53 | spacebug^ | actually I can |
| 17:42.06 | nkuttler | spacebug^: that's abnormal |
| 17:42.20 | spacebug^ | in a terminal I do "su -" to become root |
| 17:42.24 | nkuttler | !tell spacebug^ about root x |
| 17:42.27 | spacebug^ | then I start firefox in that termianl |
| 17:42.47 | spacebug^ | this is a normal debian 8 install |
| 17:42.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | then you somehow started the session as root |
| 17:42.55 | BlessJah | something, something, $XAUTHORITY? |
| 17:43.04 | stoned | RoyK: *sigh* |
| 17:43.09 | stoned | unhelpful at best. |
| 17:43.18 | stoned | And this is probably not a good time for me to be on IRC. I'm irritable. |
| 17:43.33 | stoned | And people offering stupid remarks kind of making ticked. |
| 17:43.35 | stoned | *afk* |
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| 17:45.13 | spacebug^ | CutMeOwnThroat: well gdm and X is run by root? |
| 17:45.26 | spacebug^ | but the session is a user |
| 17:45.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you usually don't log in as root |
| 17:45.41 | spacebug^ | no and I have not |
| 17:46.02 | spacebug^ | strange thing is that the firefox Iran as root does not show using "ps aux | grep fire" |
| 17:46.08 | spacebug^ | but the windows is there |
| 17:46.26 | spacebug^ | xprop does not say who runt it does it? |
| 17:46.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 17:46.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | but xauth without options says which file it uses |
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| 17:47.50 | spacebug^ | Using authority file /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-spacebug-53wGjs/database |
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| 17:48.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | you'd probably get that behavior if you chowned that file so that only root can read it |
| 17:48.14 | spacebug^ | but that does not say anything about that particual program? |
| 17:48.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | err chmod* |
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| 17:48.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | or one of the directories above so that only root can switch into it (owner root, go-x as permission) |
| 17:49.06 | spacebug^ | actually the firefox window that was started belongs to user spacebug because it has the same settings and download history |
| 17:49.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | spacebug^, root's xauth is using that file? |
| 17:49.47 | spacebug^ | running both xauth in spacebugs terminal window and the window where I have done "su -" says that |
| 17:50.07 | spacebug^ | so root actuallt runs it as spacebug here anyway? |
| 17:50.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, root just still has XAUTHORITY set |
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| 17:52.05 | spacebug^ | what does that mean? Since the user spacebug first opened the terminal it has some environment set that root gets? |
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| 17:56.30 | spacebug^ | Oh, Now I ran firefox as root. Probalby did somethign wrong before. Ok, so gdm creates a file only accessible by the user starting the session. But since root can access all files, root can in this case open programs that way |
| 17:56.34 | spacebug^ | ? |
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| 17:57.02 | bumbar | i'm trying to change to unstable branch, i've commented every line in /etc/apt/souces.list but the first 2 in this paste https://dpaste.de/3yBS |
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| 17:57.16 | bumbar | when i run apt-get upgrade, i get unmet dependecies error |
| 17:57.29 | bumbar | i've tried removingreinstalling those packages, but nothing works |
| 17:58.46 | missmbob | bumbar: that's what happens with unstable. read the /topic and go to #debian-next on oftc for unstable support |
| 17:58.50 | mutante | bumbar: maybe you just need "main" and dont care about non-free and contrib and removing them avoids some of that |
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| 18:00.23 | bumbar | mutante: i just want to install vlc, but i've fucked some things up and landed on unstable and now i've this problems. i'll reinstall debian when i get home |
| 18:01.17 | mutante | bumbar: good luck, yep. as missmbob said, you can ask for support on oftc but only stable support over here |
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| 18:01.58 | bumbar | says i need invite for #debian-next |
| 18:02.30 | maurer | bumbar: aiui #debian-next has moved to irc.oftc.net |
| 18:02.36 | maurer | bumbar: thus why the one over here is locked |
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| 18:21.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's actually never been here |
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| 18:25.17 | unborn | bumbar: sure.. it means only proper devs get access during an dev time.. no support provided |
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| 18:25.59 | unborn | at all..nada zero.. simply put it if you cannot contribute anything there just questions regards resolving - you out unless someone would invite you :) |
| 18:26.00 | lawrence-paralla | Hey :) |
| 18:26.05 | lawrence-paralla | Having an issue with nginx and spaces |
| 18:26.09 | lawrence-paralla | With php-fpm |
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| 18:26.21 | lawrence-paralla | It's odd, it just doesn't seem to want to read the file if it has a space in it |
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| 18:30.31 | unborn | lawrence-paralla: ah php-fpm - that is not debian related at all.. |
| 18:30.42 | lawrence-paralla | I know but you guys are super helpful |
| 18:30.46 | lawrence-paralla | (Sorry!) |
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| 18:32.08 | unborn | dont be sorry - you've asked.. its totally cool :) |
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| 18:33.56 | duelle | lawrence-paralla: Just in case you did not try that yet, you could check whether the guys at #nginx can help you. |
| 18:34.01 | lawrence-paralla | Secretly possibly running our architecture on Ubuntu but the community around Debian is just better |
| 18:34.09 | lawrence-paralla | I'll have a look, thanks duelle :) |
| 18:34.33 | bipul | I have ext4 file system. Now i would like to make it XFS ? it it possible? |
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| 18:36.03 | mdlpe | hi, how to mount a hd by UUID (not fstab modification) |
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| 18:38.47 | jelly | bipul: backup, reformat to xfs, restore |
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| 18:39.17 | unborn | bipul: sure.. load live cd of debian and start gparted and format your disk as you need. - perhaps burn gparted iso it self.. same effect |
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| 18:39.42 | petn-randall | unborn: You're missing out some important details ... |
| 18:39.44 | TomTomTosch | mdlpe: by mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid> |
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| 18:40.07 | mdlpe | I found : mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid-identifier destination |
| 18:40.09 | stoned | xfs, eh. |
| 18:40.15 | unborn | petn-randall: which one? |
| 18:40.24 | stoned | Not so recommended without a UPS, especially in lightning areas. |
| 18:40.29 | unborn | i answered the op questions as he asked.. |
| 18:40.29 | mdlpe | TomTomTosh, thanks |
| 18:40.33 | petn-randall | unborn: The part where you actually copy all the data off and back on again. |
| 18:40.49 | unborn | petn-randall: he did not asked that |
| 18:40.55 | petn-randall | unborn: Oh, technically correct! The best kind of correct :) |
| 18:40.56 | unborn | anyway I get the message |
| 18:40.58 | stoned | Abrupt powerloss causes XFS corruption, make no mistake, journal isn't fully reliable. |
| 18:41.01 | zwamkat | I'm trying to downgrade iceweasel. apt-cache showpkg iceweasel show me dependencies but I can't find a list of available older versions of the package. Suggestions? |
| 18:41.05 | stoned | XFS can be a bit goofy. |
| 18:41.30 | jelly | no fs with journal is "fully reliable", that includes ext4 as well |
| 18:41.36 | TomTomTosch | zwamkat: apt-cache policy iceweasel |
| 18:41.37 | stoned | *nod* |
| 18:41.40 | petn-randall | unborn: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/909/991/48c.jpg |
| 18:41.45 | stoned | Why do you want to switch from ext4 to xfs? |
| 18:42.11 | unborn | petn-randall: :) thanks for making my mood better ;) |
| 18:43.10 | zwamkat | TomTomTosch: Magic! Cheers! |
| 18:43.24 | RoyK | stoned: goofy? how? RHEL/CentOS uses xfs by default now - better for large filesystems |
| 18:43.35 | `Kevin | i prefer XFS these days for many things ^ |
| 18:44.00 | stoned | I'm sure servers with large FS run on redundant PSU |
| 18:44.17 | `Kevin | typically |
| 18:44.19 | nkuttler | zwamkat: downgrade is not supported on debian.. |
| 18:44.21 | unborn | RoyK: ...by you saying on base of ?? |
| 18:44.23 | nkuttler | !tell zwamkat about bat |
| 18:44.30 | jelly | RoyK: heh, I used the "if RHEL supports it, it's stable" rule of thumb when switching to ext4 as well |
| 18:45.11 | TomTomTosch | nkuttler: installing iceweasel 38.8 will be no problem. |
| 18:45.29 | stoned | 45.3.0 is my firefox in debian stable. |
| 18:45.34 | stoned | I can't remember how it got into here. |
| 18:45.44 | stoned | Doesn't debian stable only have iceweasel |
| 18:45.53 | nkuttler | TomTomTosch: i don't need help |
| 18:46.01 | jelly | stoned: now it has firefox-esr instead |
| 18:46.10 | zwamkat | nkuttler: your !tell did not do anything... What do you want to tell me? *curious* |
| 18:46.17 | jelly | (iceweasel remains a transitional dummy package) |
| 18:46.18 | stoned | Ahh. |
| 18:46.25 | TomTomTosch | nkuttler: what you said was not helpful. |
| 18:46.35 | nkuttler | zwamkat: the bot sent you a msg. basically, apt-cache policy etc of all packages |
| 18:46.48 | nkuttler | TomTomTosch: if you want to help people do that. your meta discussion is pointless |
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| 18:47.20 | jelly | zwamkat: you should have gotten a private message from "dpkg" bot, maybe in a separate irc client window/tab |
| 18:47.32 | zwamkat | nkuttler: Right. The bot fell of my screen ;-) Found it. Cheers. |
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| 18:47.59 | stoned | http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/ <- you can search the bot for keywords/factoids here |
| 18:48.12 | stoned | zwamkat: bot knows a lot. Try this instead of google too |
| 18:48.54 | stoned | s/instead of/as well as/ |
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| 18:49.18 | zwamkat | stoned: Cheers, I'll add it to my list of "things I wanna read". |
| 18:49.27 | TomTomTosch | zwamkat: apt-get install iceweasel=38.8.0esr-1~deb8u1 will be enough for you to downgrade to the old iceweasel. |
| 18:49.31 | fds34 | Hi guys. Anybody here using Gnome on stable? |
| 18:49.39 | fds34 | Is it any good or is it too outdated? |
| 18:49.49 | abrotman | fds34: works fine for me, but I don't have complicated usage |
| 18:49.56 | stoned | heh, I did apt-get --purge remove ^.gnome* just like twonights ago. Cleaning up |
| 18:50.16 | stoned | I use a few gtk applications for everyday work but not the full env. |
| 18:50.32 | abrotman | fds34: My laptop is a bit aged, due to be replaced. The bigger issue is Firefox, damn memory hog. |
| 18:50.44 | mtn | fds34: it is very usable |
| 18:50.50 | stoned | abrotman: I thought you were an opera man |
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| 18:51.39 | jelly | things changed since 2010, stoned |
| 18:51.57 | stoned | Seemingl so far, for the better. |
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| 18:56.52 | fds34 | I'm interested if Gnome 3.14 performance is good, enough... the seem to have made performance improvements in later versions |
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| 18:57.17 | mtn | fds34: like I said, it is very usable. |
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| 19:01.19 | simonlnu | sorry for the bounce bouncy |
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| 19:02.34 | bipul | And how to disable ACL on ext4 file system ? |
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| 19:03.50 | simonlnu | why? |
| 19:04.47 | abrotman | stoned: I'm still using it for different things, but the memory consumption seemed even worse. Maybe it's changed back. |
| 19:05.11 | abrotman | fds34: it's far better than it was at like 3.4 |
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| 20:30.31 | exezin | "Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting." |
| 20:30.49 | exezin | My friend is getting this issue with unstable netinstall (on a usb, installed via unetbootin) |
| 20:31.01 | petn-randall | !testing installer |
| 20:31.02 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:31.27 | petn-randall | exezin: ^^^ try the stable installer and dist-upgrade from there. |
| 20:31.31 | exezin | He can't |
| 20:31.41 | exezin | The issue he is having is a black screen, He's on Intel HD 530 |
| 20:31.53 | exezin | And anything that's kernel version 4.4 and below doesnt appear to work |
| 20:32.00 | petn-randall | ouch |
| 20:32.02 | exezin | Yeah |
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| 20:32.17 | petn-randall | exezin: How did you prepare the installation medium? |
| 20:32.18 | exezin | I've been trying to help him for 2~ weeks, found no real fix yet |
| 20:32.33 | exezin | unetbootin, first he tried the mini.iso |
| 20:32.36 | exezin | Which didnt seem to boot at all |
| 20:32.43 | petn-randall | Ah, unetbootin is the problem. |
| 20:32.46 | petn-randall | !unetbootin |
| 20:32.47 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 20:32.50 | exezin | so he tried using the debian/unstable-netinstall x64 option |
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| 20:33.07 | exezin | !usb install |
| 20:33.07 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 20:33.15 | grantwu | How do I chown a file to a particular UID? |
| 20:33.44 | exezin | petn-randall: unetbootin has its own option for debian netinstall, would that also cause the same issue? |
| 20:33.52 | exezin | (The option where it downloads the iso on its own and what-not) |
| 20:33.52 | stoned | grantwu: you can do it just like that. |
| 20:33.59 | grantwu | stoned: ? |
| 20:34.08 | grantwu | like, chown 50 <file> ? |
| 20:34.15 | stoned | Sure |
| 20:34.28 | grantwu | oh, derp |
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| 20:34.46 | grantwu | Wait, does this mean that numeric usernames are not allowed? |
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| 20:35.12 | grantwu | Ah hrm, no, that makes sense |
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| 20:35.18 | exezin | I'll get him to try the mini.iso without unetbootin, thanks for the help |
| 20:35.55 | stoned | grantwu: read the man page. man chown |
| 20:36.04 | petn-randall | exezin: Good idea |
| 20:36.12 | exezin | Already this channel is significantly more helpful than #ubuntu or #linux |
| 20:36.26 | petn-randall | exezin: If anything doesn't work, it's best to come on here with the failing machine next to you so we can debug the issue. |
| 20:36.44 | exezin | Yeah I'll get him to come over here if we get no success, thanks |
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| 20:37.06 | petn-randall | exezin: You're welcome. Good luck! |
| 20:37.13 | exezin | \o/ |
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| 20:47.15 | winsen | Hi all |
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| 20:48.01 | exezin | \o |
| 20:48.13 | `Kevin | o/ |
| 20:48.39 | winsen | does anyone why I can't access internet automatically: I often use to log from terminal with ifup wlan0...? any clue: http://paste.debian.net/790555/ |
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| 20:49.02 | winsen | I wonder if it has to do with my network interfaces |
| 20:50.33 | c-c | winsen: you dont have a network manager installed, or it doesn't start maybe? |
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| 20:53.56 | `Kevin | winsen: you might need allow-hotplug instead of auto |
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| 20:58.26 | winsen | `Kevin: allow-hotplug eth0 instead of auto eth0? |
| 20:58.32 | winsen | or..? |
| 20:58.34 | `Kevin | wlan0 |
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| 20:58.58 | `Kevin | if that is indeed the one not coming up |
| 20:59.01 | winsen | `Kevin: can you tell me what is the difference/why? |
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| 21:01.34 | `Kevin | winsen: wlan0 might not be ready when auto wlan0 is read |
| 21:02.41 | `Kevin | hotplug will notify the kernel when a state change happens regarding wlan0 and bring it up |
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| 21:04.29 | `Kevin | basically when an even occurs that makes wlan0 usable it will bring it up versus trying to bring it up when it is not ready |
| 21:04.32 | `Kevin | event/ |
| 21:05.00 | `Kevin | again thats my assumption of what is happening, it depends on what hardware you have, the driver, etc.. |
| 21:06.18 | `Kevin | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_syntax_of_etc_network_interfaces |
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| 21:07.24 | winsen | `Kevin: what is exactly the job of "allow-hotplug"? |
| 21:07.25 | exezin | Is there any specific way to install mini.iso to a usb on osx? |
| 21:07.30 | exezin | unetbootin and dd both dont work |
| 21:07.42 | `Kevin | winsen: url ^ |
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| 21:09.00 | winsen | `Kevin: is it true to add, auto lo, eth0, wlan0 instead of separating all of them? |
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| 21:09.08 | yebakl | ahh it' a wonderful day |
| 21:09.34 | exezin | (perhaps a specific tool or something?) |
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| 21:10.30 | winsen | `Kevin: are still there? |
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| 21:11.59 | `Kevin | winsen: i havent done that, you can try it... best way to learn along with reading man page :) |
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| 21:14.35 | exezin | !usb install |
| 21:14.35 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 21:15.04 | exezin | damn, no mention of osx anywhere |
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| 21:18.09 | winsen | I tried to repair grub from debian's terminal, from ubuntu live usb, I followed steps boot repair and did 3 times.. unfortunately it doesn't work either, any clue guys? this is the ubuntu log: http://paste.debian.net/790563/ |
| 21:18.48 | Klaus_Dieter | exezin: mostly you can dd image to usb sticks and they will boot |
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| 21:19.14 | exezin | hm alright, we tried that with no success but I suppose we can try again |
| 21:19.57 | exezin | sudo dd if=/dir/to/mini.iso of=/dev/disk1s1 <- does that look correct? |
| 21:20.07 | Klaus_Dieter | add bs=2048 |
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| 21:20.16 | Klaus_Dieter | or even bs=1M |
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| 21:20.51 | winsen | `Kevin: is it correct to write auto lo, eth0, wlan0? |
| 21:21.05 | exezin | Alright, we'll try that thanks |
| 21:21.05 | babilen | exezin: You typically don't want the mini.iso (but a standard installer image such as the netinst) and you want to write directly to the stick and not a partition |
| 21:21.35 | Klaus_Dieter | exezin: write to /dev/diskFOO instead of the partition |
| 21:21.38 | `Kevin | exezin: convert the iso to UDRW on osx before writing |
| 21:21.41 | babilen | exezin: And you can also use cp if you don't want to type all that stuff for dd (it also scales the blocksize automatically, so you don't have to deal with that bs) |
| 21:21.44 | `Kevin | since you are using osx |
| 21:22.05 | winsen | any clue guys about the Grub repair? |
| 21:22.14 | winsen | any clue guys about Grub repair? |
| 21:22.23 | exezin | babilen: the standard installer wont work in this case, unfortunetly |
| 21:22.30 | exezin | unstable is required right from the start |
| 21:23.43 | babilen | exezin: You still don't want the mini.iso -- Grab, for example, the netinst with firmware from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/stretch_di_alpha7/ |
| 21:24.01 | babilen | exezin: See https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for an overview |
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| 21:24.23 | exezin | I'll give the bs=1M a try and the URDW thing |
| 21:24.23 | babilen | (you can also download CD1, DVD1, .. if you like) |
| 21:24.38 | babilen | exezin: Just use cp and don't care about blocksize |
| 21:24.41 | babilen | Ah well .. |
| 21:25.05 | babilen | dpkg: hybrid image |
| 21:25.06 | dpkg | Since the 6.0 "Squeeze" release, Debian installation images for x86 systems - e.g. <netinst>, <CD1>, DVD1 - are hybrid images. These can be written directly to CD or HD Media (e.g. USB thumbdrive) without further preparation. See http://www.debian.org/News/project/2010/14/#hybrid for details. See also <install debian>, <usb install>. |
| 21:25.14 | babilen | Just in case this ^^^ wasn't clear |
| 21:25.40 | babilen | But try your luck with mini.iso and whatever you want to try first |
| 21:25.42 | exezin | What are those? |
| 21:25.45 | exezin | well |
| 21:25.48 | exezin | what kernel version? |
| 21:25.50 | exezin | it needs to be 4.5+ |
| 21:25.56 | babilen | Yes, hence my suggestion |
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| 21:26.18 | TomTomTosch | stretch and sid both have the 4.6 kernel. |
| 21:26.27 | babilen | There isn't a sid installer |
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| 21:26.42 | exezin | Alright, I'll pass that info along, thanks |
| 21:27.25 | winsen | `Kevin: anyway thanks |
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| 21:27.39 | `Kevin | yep :) |
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| 21:28.01 | winsen | c-c: I removed both wicd and NM |
| 21:28.24 | winsen | c-c: so No I don't. |
| 21:29.11 | winsen | `Kevin: any clue about the grub? |
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| 21:30.11 | `Kevin | not offhand, then again i dont have enough time to read through that carefully |
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| 21:32.19 | winsen | `Kevin: I tried to repair grub from debian's terminal, from ubuntu live usb, I followed steps boot repair and did 3 times.. unfortunately it doesn't work either, any clue guys? this is the ubuntu log: http://paste.debian.net/790563/ |
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| 21:49.00 | tp43_ | I messed up and installed 32 bit debian instead of 64bit, must I re-install to get 64 bit? |
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| 21:51.14 | missmbob | tp43_: yes |
| 21:51.28 | tp43_ | missmbob, r u sure |
| 21:52.30 | missmbob | tp43_: yes |
| 21:53.09 | tp43_ | can I re-install from within debian, or I have to reformat |
| 21:53.22 | missmbob | you redo everything. |
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| 21:54.08 | jmcnaught | !crossgrade |
| 21:54.08 | dpkg | Converting an i386 installation into an amd64 installation in-place is quite difficult. It's much easier to reinstall the system with the new architecture -- ask me about <install debian>. If you've got good backups, plenty of time and are feeling lucky, you can try https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading but really... good backups... |
| 21:54.39 | jmcnaught | tp43_: it's possible to do, but quicker and easier to reinstall especially if it's a brand new installation |
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| 21:55.30 | tp43_ | jmcnaught, thx |
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| 21:57.14 | TomTomTosch | i wonder if those instructions even work for jessie. |
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| 22:08.27 | tp43_ | I have an Asus EeePC. You use my wifi, I must first do #ifdown eth0, How can I get my audio working? |
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| 22:10.55 | tp43_ | To use my wifi I figured out I must first do #ifdown eth0 (disable the lan). But I can't figure how to get audio working |
| 22:11.13 | tp43_ | sorry for repeat, I just need to correct me grammar |
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| 22:16.04 | tp43_ | actually, the headphone is working |
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| 22:17.59 | jmcnaught | tp43_: it shouldn't be necessary to bring eth0 to use wifi. how are you trying to connect to wifi? is eth0 listed in /etc/network/interfaces (maybe you could put that file in a paste?) |
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| 22:27.27 | winsen | can you tell me good free pdf editor? |
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| 22:35.38 | jmcnaught | winsen: a few to check out are pdftk, pdfshuffler, and inkscape can also open PDF files. They're not the easiest type of file to work with though, it's usually simpler to edit the source file and convert to PDF again |
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| 22:38.01 | jmcnaught | winsen: "aptitude search ~Gworks-with-format::pdf~Guse::editing" to search using debtags for some options available |
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| 22:42.19 | winsen | jmcnaught: what about pdftk and pdfshuffler? inkscape don't like it |
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| 22:43.11 | jmcnaught | winsen: check them out, or search the package manager for others |
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| 22:52.26 | winsen | jmcnaught: anyway thanks |
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| 22:54.54 | grantwu | I need everyone to have read write access to all these files |
| 22:54.58 | grantwu | Regardless of the client UID |
| 22:55.00 | grantwu | I have all_squash and anonuid=1002, and I chowned all the files on the sever to 1002 |
| 22:55.04 | grantwu | Sorry, this is for an NFS share |
| 22:55.19 | grantwu | Is there a way to get this working with all_squash and anonuid instead of just making it world writable? |
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| 22:57.03 | mantlepro | Just changed entries in /etc/apt/sources.list from jessie to testing and ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Anything else that I need to do before reboot? |
| 22:57.15 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 22:57.15 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:57.31 | mantlepro | Thanks. |
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| 22:57.51 | jmcnaught | mantlepro: check the FAQ in the topic of that channel too, it's applicable to testing as well |
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| 23:05.13 | spacebug^ | hum.. why does gksu start a program without asking for my password? where do I change that? |
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| 23:07.18 | missmbob | it saves it in your session for some amount of minutes. i can't remember. 15? i don't use it. so anyway if you've entered that password in anything gnome world...it's saved |
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| 23:08.16 | spacebug^ | bah.. I can't find it in keyring either. |
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| 23:08.47 | winsen | how to upgrade libre office? |
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| 23:09.37 | missmbob | winsen: jessie-backports has an updated one. https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 23:11.19 | spacebug^ | ah, I found how to flush the passphrases saved :) |
| 23:11.46 | jmcnaught | spacebug^: perhaps it's something you'd like to share with the class? :) |
| 23:11.56 | winsen | I download 5.1missbob: http://paste.debian.net/790595/ |
| 23:12.22 | KindOne | How exactily can I tell what ./configure options a package uses? |
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| 23:12.37 | winsen | missbob: do you know why it shows error? |
| 23:12.38 | spacebug^ | jmcnaught: sure "gnome-keyring-daemon -r -d" :) |
| 23:12.54 | jmcnaught | spacebug^: cool thanks |
| 23:12.58 | spacebug^ | yw |
| 23:13.40 | jmcnaught | winsen: it looks like you didn't correctly add the source lines for jessie-backports, or didn't run apt-get update. Take another look at the instructions that were linked to you |
| 23:13.42 | Sygin | hey so i have a question. is there such a way to combine two /dev/something partitions into one and virtualize it so that you can mount it ? |
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| 23:14.37 | jmcnaught | Sygin: it's called Logical Volume Manager, the package is lvm2. The debian installer can actually do this. software raid is another option |
| 23:15.02 | Sygin | jmcnaught, ok so can this be done across hard drives ? |
| 23:15.19 | Sygin | as in say i have 2 hard drives and i virtually join 2 partitions of those 2 harddrives into one |
| 23:15.45 | jmcnaught | KindOne: you can download the source package "apt-get source foo" and then look at the debian/rules file (which is a make file that the packaging tools use to build the package) |
| 23:15.56 | bezaban | Sygin: you want a spanned olume |
| 23:16.10 | Sygin | spanned volume ? |
| 23:16.32 | bezaban | yap |
| 23:16.44 | jmcnaught | Sygin: yes, in LVM jargon that would be a linear volume. LVM has other features like mirrors, stripes, snapshots etc. The RHEL manual is a good intro: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/ |
| 23:17.00 | Sygin | i see. okay |
| 23:17.07 | Sygin | well thanks guys |
| 23:17.36 | bezaban | you could of course just mount the drives at different points, but meh |
| 23:17.39 | winsen | jmcnaught: right: I did thanks. Now how can I upgrade to libre office 5.1 or>? |
| 23:17.50 | jmcnaught | Sygin: keep in mind what when you have a volume that spans two physical drives, if one drive fails you loose the entire volume. LVM has raid redundancy features, or you can use LVM as a layer on top of software RAID |
| 23:18.19 | jmcnaught | winsen: "apt-get -t jessie-backports install libreoffice" presumably, once you have updated your sources |
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| 23:19.10 | winsen | jmcnaught: it seems working thanks. |
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| 23:19.53 | winsen | jmcnaught: any clue for good free pdf editor? |
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| 23:20.29 | jmcnaught | winsen: don't try to installe everything from backports, only the few things that you really need. And again, I don't edit PDFs but I provided a command earlier to search for packages that can edit them |
| 23:20.57 | jmcnaught | ideally you would edit the original file that the PDF was made from, and then produce another PDF |
| 23:21.03 | winsen | jmcnaught: Do you mean due to non-free sources? |
| 23:21.13 | jmcnaught | winsen: ? |
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| 23:22.18 | winsen | jmcnaught: why do you say "don't try to install everything from backports,"..? |
| 23:22.57 | jmcnaught | winsen: because of what it says in the introduction: https://backports.debian.org/ (nothing to do with non-free) |
| 23:23.29 | winsen | jmcnaught: Ok. that's what I said. |
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| 23:24.09 | jmcnaught | winsen: i think we're on different wavelengths. "Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care! It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports." |
| 23:25.04 | winsen | jmcnaught: I am still having problem with grub, any clue how to fix it? I tried from terminal and with ubuntu live usb with boot repair unfortunetely it doesn't work? |
| 23:25.18 | winsen | any clue |
| 23:25.21 | jmcnaught | winsen: i don't know what the problem is |
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| 23:27.34 | winsen | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/790599/ |
| 23:28.12 | winsen | that's what I had with boo repair with ubuntu live cd. |
| 23:28.21 | winsen | *boot.. |
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| 23:28.34 | jmcnaught | winsen: okay but what is broken? |
| 23:29.14 | winsen | jmcnaught: I can't access to win7 partition. however I didn't see error message |
| 23:29.29 | Guest83007 | Anyone using adobe flashplugin as I can not get updated even with current file.I am using firefox and do not trust code in chromium. |
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| 23:29.59 | jmcnaught | winsen: probably easier to use the update-grub command from within Debian, which should trigger osprober (?) |
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| 23:34.28 | winsen | jmcnaught:that's what I did twice, now I am trying again and I added, I also add GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y to /etc/default/grub |
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| 23:35.32 | winsen | jmcnaught: I really never had problem with grub for decade |
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| 23:44.11 | winsen | jmcnaught: brb I'll try |
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