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| 00:11.37 | tjt263 | hey, if i execute a command; something like: dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb |
| 00:11.40 | tjt263 | how can i check where the unpacked files end up? |
| 00:12.30 | jmcnaught | tjt263: "dpkg -L package" to list the files that a package has installed |
| 00:12.32 | mutante | tjt263: dpkg -L |
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| 00:14.00 | TomTomTosch | tjt263: or dpkg -c <deb> to see the contents before you install. |
| 00:15.05 | tjt263 | i tried that |
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| 00:16.09 | jmcnaught | tjt263: what did you try? it's easier to get support if you show the full command and output, using a paste site if you need to |
| 00:17.17 | pingfloyd | tjt263: what is the X problem? |
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| 00:27.19 | tjt263 | jmcnaught: http://sprunge.us/ePTA |
| 00:27.21 | tjt263 | http://sprunge.us/ePTA |
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| 00:27.41 | tjt263 | oops double post |
| 00:28.26 | jmcnaught | tjt263: google-chrome-stable is the package name that you should use with "dpkg -L". in the .deb's file name, the part after the _ is the version |
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| 00:29.07 | jmcnaught | (and the architecture) |
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| 00:31.03 | tjt263 | ah i see, so should i use google-chrome or google-chrome-stable |
| 00:31.03 | tjt263 | looks like both exist |
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| 00:32.26 | tjt263 | /usr/bin/google-chrome |
| 00:32.27 | tjt263 | /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable |
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| 00:33.17 | grantwu | I think one might be a symlink to another? |
| 00:33.21 | joze | /usr/bin/laden |
| 00:33.22 | jmcnaught | it probably also added itself to the menu of your desktop environment |
| 00:33.27 | joze | grates jokes |
| 00:33.48 | TomTomTosch | both are wrappers. i think they run the same binary. |
| 00:34.14 | jmcnaught | tjt263: that package also adds a new file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ from what i understand, which adds a google repo to your apt sources |
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| 00:39.00 | TomTomTosch | oh, yeah. grantwu was right. |
| 00:41.21 | tjt263 | jmcnaught: hmm does type -t show symlinks? |
| 00:42.22 | TomTomTosch | tjt263: ls -alF /usr/bin/ | grep google then follow the symlinks. |
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| 00:42.56 | tjt263 | does type -t show symlinks? |
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| 00:48.07 | RoyK | tjt263: man test |
| 00:51.39 | tjt263 | if you dont know , its okay to say so |
| 00:52.32 | TomTomTosch | he pointed to to a command that actually can tell you if something is a symlink. |
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| 00:53.40 | tjt263 | yes|no|idk |
| 00:53.40 | tjt263 | these are acceptable answers |
| 00:53.43 | TomTomTosch | one that's more helpful in scripts, though :P |
| 00:54.29 | grantwu | tjt263: type is a shell builtin, usually, so it depends on the shell I would imagine |
| 00:54.30 | tjt263 | yeah i know about test, i use it a lot |
| 00:54.56 | grantwu | I can confirm it doesn't on zsh |
| 00:55.01 | tjt263 | good point |
| 00:55.07 | tjt263 | cheers |
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| 00:58.09 | murphy | anyone familiar with preseed? i have a couple questions |
| 00:58.39 | jmcnaught | tjt263: did you try it and see? |
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| 01:00.08 | tjt263 | jmcnaught: uhh, yeah. before i asked. if we're still talking about the same thing |
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| 01:05.44 | murphy | does setting a flag on a partition actually change anything? |
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| 01:07.42 | Hello71 | usually no |
| 01:08.45 | stoned | sure |
| 01:09.03 | dvs | maybe |
| 01:09.04 | stoned | murphy: if you change certain flags behaviors change etc. |
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| 01:09.14 | murphy | trying to change a partition to LVM |
| 01:09.24 | stoned | for example the boot flag, system flag etc. lvm raid etc. |
| 01:09.30 | murphy | do i actually have to repartition it |
| 01:10.09 | stoned | depends |
| 01:10.17 | RoyK | tjt263: the arguments to test are the same - hence the reference |
| 01:10.22 | stoned | murphy: what did you do? |
| 01:10.25 | RoyK | tjt263: or hint, if you like |
| 01:10.35 | murphy | i just used gparted to set the flag |
| 01:10.47 | murphy | im booted from a live usb |
| 01:10.53 | RoyK | murphy: no need really |
| 01:11.09 | RoyK | murphy: booting is controlled by grub, not by a boot flag |
| 01:12.29 | murphy | i have this dilemma where i want to reformat this partition to use LVM so i can group it with my sd card for more space but im worried the preseed will just overwrite it |
| 01:12.45 | pingfloyd | murphy: partition type shouldn't matter for using lvm |
| 01:12.56 | murphy | ok cool |
| 01:13.14 | RoyK | guess setting partition type to FAT12 should work well :D |
| 01:13.49 | murphy | what i would really like to do is just have the preseed configure everything but im a little lost on which file is actually used |
| 01:14.48 | murphy | what i want to do isnt really complicated, its just a all these little things keep getting in the way |
| 01:14.54 | RoyK | murphy: just roll out standard stuff and use something like ansible to do the configration |
| 01:15.01 | murphy | stupid intel compute stick |
| 01:15.56 | murphy | for now im trying to just edit the restore partition install |
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| 01:16.26 | christopherg | I'm running into an issue with my Debian host and Debian guests on KVM. I'm setting up my network manually (i.e. ip addr add <IP> dev eth0, ip route add <GATEWAY> dev eth0, etc) and it works great, however after a couple minutes, the speed of wget/scp/sftp/etc all greatly decrease. Restarting networking doesn't work, but if I bring the link down manually and redo the initialization process mentioned earlier, the speed returns |
| 01:16.26 | christopherg | for the few minutes again. I'm having issues diagnosing where the problem stems from. |
| 01:17.19 | christopherg | I've done iperf on the host and guests to the same server and nothing pops up there - all very similar average bandwidths over 5 minutes. Any suggestions? |
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| 02:10.14 | mylord | I installed postfix, but mail command is still not found |
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| 02:14.34 | RoyK | mylord: try apt-get install mailutils or something |
| 02:15.46 | missmbob | mylord: postfix provides bsd-mailx, which uses alternatives and is usually set to act as "mail" |
| 02:15.58 | mylord | thx |
| 02:15.59 | missmbob | /usr/bin/mail is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/mail |
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| 02:20.46 | awal1 | Any suggestion for a mailreader pkg, similar to mutt, with similar functionalities, desktop independent? |
| 02:20.53 | mylord | when I try to change this: sudo postconf -e "myhostname=mysite.comâ // to mysite.com from current hostname, mailing fails |
| 02:21.04 | mylord | but iâve also updated my /etc/hostname |
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| 02:21.48 | missmbob | mylord: â#postfix might be a better help |
| 02:21.59 | RoyK | awal1: alpine works well |
| 02:22.12 | RoyK | awal1: alpine, even |
| 02:22.31 | RoyK | alpine |
| 02:22.35 | awal1 | Royk, ok, I'll look at it. thanks |
| 02:22.44 | RoyK | awal1: a fork of old pine |
| 02:23.00 | awal1 | Ok, Royk |
| 02:23.17 | awal1 | RoyK :P |
| 02:23.41 | mylord | iâm not able to change hostnameâs now |
| 02:23.45 | mylord | do i need a reboot |
| 02:24.00 | RoyK | awal1: alpine just came up as al#pine on my terminal :P |
| 02:24.10 | RoyK | no, al#ine |
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| 02:24.47 | awal1 | alpine sound interesting, will try it |
| 02:25.21 | mutante | mylord: yea, gotta reboot usually |
| 02:26.05 | mutante | mylord: it's not like windows, but basically kernel upgrade and host name change are reasons to |
| 02:26.11 | mylord | so to change where my emails come from (e.g blah@mysite.com), i need to change hostname, and need ot reboot? |
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| 02:26.32 | mutante | hmm.no.. that i dont think so |
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| 02:27.00 | mutante | since you can set an email sender address to whatever anyways..afaict |
| 02:27.06 | mylord | cuz now mail is sening from user@hostname |
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| 02:29.39 | mutante | mylord: /usr/bin/mail -r "sndr_address" -s "subject" recipient_address ... depending on the version of mail |
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| 02:30.32 | mutante | mylord: echo "foo" | mail -r ... |
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| 02:33.17 | RoyK | mylord: there's mime-construct too - it gives you pretty good control over the email |
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| 02:41.19 | mylord | ok, mail command works from CLI |
| 02:41.25 | mylord | but how do I use that from node? |
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| 02:43.42 | RoyK | mylord: the node? like any other machine, I guess |
| 02:44.01 | mylord | oops, i thot i was in #nodejs :) |
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| 02:45.44 | mylord | i donât get what iâd put for transport SMTP setting or if those are relevant: https://www.npmjs.com/package/nodemailer |
| 02:46.52 | missmbob | mylord: still not #nodejs |
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| 02:54.33 | antisocl | lots of nicks on this server... anyone alive in here? |
| 02:54.59 | mutante | !ask |
| 02:54.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:55.23 | mutante | antisocl: pretty social given your nick :) |
| 02:55.42 | antisocl | i have a general question... |
| 02:55.45 | jim | antisocl, there's probably nick, tommy, joe and gloria too... |
| 02:56.07 | antisocl | i'm trying to learn python, c, anything... but my problem is direction... |
| 02:56.22 | antisocl | I need something concrete to work on in order to practice and progress... |
| 02:56.47 | mutante | antisocl: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 02:56.59 | missmbob | antisocl: join #python and ##c and ask them |
| 02:57.02 | antisocl | and my q is ... how does git work? if i pull something off the hub and clone it... tear it apart, make it better... |
| 02:57.32 | antisocl | and then commit it... how do they sort out the clinkers people send up? |
| 02:57.49 | mutante | antisocl: they use code review software, for example "gerrit" |
| 02:57.50 | ryouma | antisocl: that's only your own repo |
| 02:57.57 | missmbob | i'm sure you don't have commmit |
| 02:58.06 | ryouma | antisocl: you have to push it, which you can't do if you are not approved; you can do pull requests and such |
| 02:58.23 | antisocl | ohhh ok.... that makes sense |
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| 02:58.44 | antisocl | you can take all you want and mangle it to your heart's content but you can't send it back |
| 02:58.49 | ryouma | yup |
| 02:59.01 | grantwu | Unless, of course, you have push access... |
| 02:59.14 | mutante | antisocl: in a software like gerrit, you have a web ui and people upload suggested changes, then other people review and some can give it a +1 which means "looks good but others have to approve" and some others can +2 which means "merge, actually getting into the code" |
| 03:00.21 | jim | antisocl, one thing, you can start by playing with one-liners |
| 03:00.43 | antisocl | that would be good practice then... and gerrit... i will keep that name for future reference... i might end up with my name in lights... but then i would have to be partially social... heh |
| 03:01.09 | antisocl | one-liners? |
| 03:01.14 | mutante | antisocl: you can send it back by uploading it as a suggested change to a server like that. or , in the github model, it's slightly different, you ask the maintainer of something to pull your change "pull request" |
| 03:02.16 | antisocl | i've looked at a lot of tutorial videos on git... my fav is the meme from Downfall... Hitler uses git... i needed the comic relief |
| 03:02.24 | jim | antisocl, python programs that can (for example) be entered on one shell line |
| 03:03.03 | mutante | antisocl: that thing i mentioned is the Google way but free software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_%28software%29 |
| 03:03.10 | jim | one of the greatest piano players I ever played with was named Gitler |
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| 03:03.24 | antisocl | thank you jim and mutante... packing my head full of more useful information is always a good thing |
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| 03:04.31 | jim | and as far as git... there's "git from the bottom up" which is a very useful paper on the pieces of git (it's a pdf) |
| 03:04.52 | jim | more, http://justinhileman.info/article/git-pretty/git-pretty.png |
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| 03:05.08 | antisocl | one thing i was wondering about.. is there something like gerrit or git that you can shove files to privately without charge? |
| 03:05.24 | antisocl | i want to use it as an authoring tool for assembling text files for a novel |
| 03:05.37 | winterss | hi |
| 03:05.39 | jim | you mean extra electrons?! |
| 03:05.44 | jim | hi |
| 03:06.06 | antisocl | i figured it might work in some weird kind of way... think different... lol |
| 03:06.06 | grantwu | antisocl: GitHub gives you a few free private repos if you're a student |
| 03:06.21 | antisocl | hmmm I could say I am... does that count? |
| 03:06.35 | antisocl | I'm too old to be one, offically I guess... |
| 03:06.35 | grantwu | Well, you'll likely need a .edu email address |
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| 03:06.42 | jim | get a vps |
| 03:06.53 | jim | put bare repos on it |
| 03:07.00 | grantwu | BitBucket I think has private repos for free too |
| 03:07.22 | grantwu | VPS are not in general free, outside of maybe AWS free tier |
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| 03:08.13 | grantwu | That said, you don't necessarily need Git hosting if you're working alone |
| 03:08.14 | antisocl | jim, that pic is mighty scary... lol |
| 03:08.24 | grantwu | You could just use Dropbox or Google Drive or something |
| 03:09.54 | antisocl | i was thinking the same thing...and also wondering if my amazon prime was good for what appears to be a shell account on steroids |
| 03:10.06 | jim | antisocl, you should do -a lot- of backing up while you're getting used to git... |
| 03:10.27 | grantwu | Amazon prime good for shell account on steroids...? |
| 03:10.48 | grantwu | I'm not aware of any AWS benefits of prime |
| 03:10.55 | jim | I thought that was for free shipping |
| 03:11.13 | grantwu | It has other benefits, but not any AWS benefits afaik |
| 03:11.23 | antisocl | my drive is a mess... it's a bit like my head... very cluttered... :-) As you get older you get more latitude for things like wandering about the neighborhood in your boxers... lol |
| 03:12.01 | antisocl | prime has free shipping, free books, free video streaming and movies and unlimited music, et al |
| 03:13.06 | antisocl | was wondering if they might give me a discount on that one too... i also have kindle unlimited... bezos loves it... lol |
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| 03:14.11 | antisocl | i found that pdf git from the bottom up.... john wiegly |
| 03:14.30 | jim | good... |
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| 03:14.59 | jim | it's somewhat packet, you might want to go kinda slow |
| 03:15.12 | jim | packed |
| 03:15.12 | grantwu | antisocl: What are you trying to do exactly? |
| 03:15.16 | antisocl | saved to the wildlands of the Documents folder.... |
| 03:15.37 | grantwu | If you're trying to learn general programming, git is honestly not the first thing you should be learning... |
| 03:15.58 | antisocl | i only want git to go fish out some real world projects to practice on |
| 03:16.04 | jim | I think he wants to learn to code, and maybe learn how to be cooperative coding on a team or in a group |
| 03:16.44 | grantwu | Okay, but the latter doesn't come after a bit of the former |
| 03:16.53 | antisocl | without direction, my ADHD takes over and i'm getting closer to the downhill slide into the valley of senility so....anything to keep a sense of direction |
| 03:17.15 | grantwu | If you just want to download real world projects, git clone is all you really need to know |
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| 03:18.35 | antisocl | i was thinking for some stupid reason earlier that it would be possible to commit the work you did... but if access wasn't locked down then all hell would break loose... my head is very packed with way too many different things... :-) |
| 03:18.55 | jim | you can commit your work |
| 03:19.28 | grantwu | I wouldn't worry about it for now. You aren't going to ruin anyone else's stuff accidentally |
| 03:20.04 | jim | that's one thing that git provides... if you clone someone else's repo and get their code, you can alter it... if you then commit that, you're committing to -your own- copy of the repo |
| 03:20.26 | antisocl | I want to work on my writing, learn coding enough to be of some use to somebody... i was retired but now back to work at a crap job that will end up killing me in the end...so i want to get back out working at home or in an office ... anywhere but there |
| 03:20.51 | winterss | hi |
| 03:20.55 | grantwu | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.01 | winterss | hi grant |
| 03:21.03 | winterss | how are you? |
| 03:21.11 | jim | it's like learning a new written/spoken language |
| 03:21.11 | grantwu | I'm ok |
| 03:21.30 | winterss | nice |
| 03:21.34 | winterss | where are you from? |
| 03:21.39 | jim | for one thing, it takes awhile |
| 03:21.42 | grantwu | Why do you ask? |
| 03:21.48 | winterss | just curious |
| 03:21.50 | grantwu | antisocl: Try https://www.codecademy.com/learn/python |
| 03:21.54 | missmbob | winterss: stay on /topic |
| 03:22.13 | winterss | ok miss |
| 03:22.17 | winterss | sorry |
| 03:22.19 | missmbob | !tell grantwu about offtopic |
| 03:22.39 | jim | winterss, There is a bot, alis, that can assist you in looking for channels on the Freenode irc net. To start, /msg alis help |
| 03:22.40 | missmbob | oops |
| 03:22.47 | missmbob | !tell winterss about offtopic |
| 03:23.14 | antisocl | yes it does... some of what i am learning is koine greek... that bends your head too... but anything that promotes thought is a good thing at my age... push the limits a bit... i love learning new things |
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| 03:23.31 | jim | the topic here is normally -very- controlled, and -not- social |
| 03:23.50 | sm00th | !#debian-offtopic |
| 03:25.05 | antisocl | i know... sorry... it's been a long week... and since my wife is gone working tonight i can actually work on things... i've gotten a lot of answers and things sorted in my head... having a plan is helpful |
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| 03:28.03 | antisocl | I think it's time to go grep the freezer for some ice cream... need a break. thanks for all the insight, it's been very helpful... have a wonderful weekend :-) |
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| 03:37.42 | _rubik | Ok. Whenever I unplug my SSD (desktop powered off and unplugged), it WIPES IT! Both times I've done this, when I boot back up, it says INSERT BOOT MEDIA AND PRESS blah blah. |
| 03:37.52 | _rubik | I getting pretty annoyed right now... |
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| 03:38.48 | grantwu | What are you writing to it? |
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| 03:39.16 | _rubik | grantwu: Its just a normal Deb desktop environment. I work in it for a bit, than I got to tinker with my desktop, uplug the drive. And poof. |
| 03:39.28 | grantwu | That's... quite bizarre... |
| 03:39.52 | _rubik | grantwu: I don't know if its the drive or what. But I've never seen this before |
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| 03:42.13 | _rubik | grantwu: I dont want to go through the process of installing anything again if I know this is going to happen... |
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| 03:43.22 | _rubik | grantwu: The first time it happened, I suspected a power surge. This time I dont know what to think. |
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| 03:44.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's not from the system |
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| 03:45.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, /tmp is wiped |
| 03:45.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you'd need to do something pretty weird for this having any effect |
| 03:46.05 | grantwu | Is it completely wiped? |
| 03:46.10 | _rubik | CutMeOwnThroat: Wierder than powering down, unplugging from the wall, then swapping drives for a bit, and coming back a little bit later. |
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| 03:46.34 | _rubik | grantwu: I honestly can't tell you, I just get the motherboards defualt, Reboot and Select proper Boot device. |
| 03:46.52 | mnrmnaugh | are you sure its been wiped? check it from a live usb |
| 03:46.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, like hard-linkiung /tmp to / |
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| 03:47.24 | mnrmnaugh | lol |
| 03:47.24 | grantwu | After trying mnrmnaugh's idea, I would try just writing a couple bytes to the beginning of the drive, unplugging it, and seeing if it persists |
| 03:47.32 | _rubik | CutMeOwnThroat: I can't think of anything doing that. When I'm choosing fairly default partition tables. |
| 03:47.50 | grantwu | Also, you could check SMART data |
| 03:47.57 | _rubik | mnrmnaugh: How would I check from live? |
| 03:48.13 | mnrmnaugh | mmm, yeah, smart stuff too. disk might be dyin |
| 03:48.45 | mnrmnaugh | _rubik boot a live usb, and mount your ssd, then look at it |
| 03:48.58 | _rubik | mnrmnaugh: Ok let me get a live setup |
| 03:49.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, I also have my doubts it's wiped.. although you should have seen that it's not when installing a 2nd time |
| 03:50.20 | _rubik | CutMeOwnThroat: Well the first time I thought it was fried from a power surge (huge thunder storm), so I wiped it myself to start fresh. |
| 03:51.03 | grantwu | It might have gone into read only mode? |
| 03:51.12 | mnrmnaugh | if theres more than one disk in it, it might be the mobo actung weird too, i think |
| 03:51.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | non-bootable is possibe... but you boot during install |
| 03:51.32 | _rubik | Wait why is there no live mode of this iso?? |
| 03:52.38 | grantwu | _rubik: I've never figured out how to make a Debian Live CD... I always use Ubuntu for live |
| 03:52.56 | mnrmnaugh | crummy iso. they dont all have one, try eh, getting a copy of systemrescuecd or puppy |
| 03:53.01 | _rubik | grantwu: That would be good to know... |
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| 03:53.51 | themill | the installer has a rescue mode that is fine for fixing grub and various other things like that; if you want a live debian iso, you download the live debian iso. |
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| 03:54.30 | _rubik | themill: Strange, mind explaining why they arnt bundled? Reduce the file size? |
| 03:55.16 | themill | ? |
| 03:55.29 | mnrmnaugh | i wanna say, cuz debian is crazy :p |
| 03:55.37 | _rubik | themill: Live and the installer. |
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| 03:55.54 | themill | installers are for installing and live cds are for live cds? Every tool should do one job and do it well? |
| 03:56.24 | grantwu | _rubik: I would just go with an Ubuntu live CD |
| 03:56.34 | _rubik | grantwu: Thats what Im booting into atm |
| 03:56.39 | grantwu | Ah nice. |
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| 03:57.00 | grantwu | And apparently Debian live does include the installer! |
| 03:57.05 | grantwu | That's what https://www.debian.org/distrib/ says |
| 03:57.26 | themill | I wouldn't recommend the installer that is part of the live environment |
| 03:57.39 | themill | It doesn't handle the myriad corner cases of installation nearly as well |
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| 03:58.06 | _rubik | Wait why am I doing this on a live distro when I have an external dive dock |
| 03:58.12 | mnrmnaugh | yeaaah, thay anaconda thing is horrid :p |
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| 04:00.14 | themill | _rubik: your description makes it sound like the bootloader is not installed on the right device |
| 04:02.41 | _rubik | themill: Yeah I'm honestly not sure. I follow the installer pretty much. |
| 04:02.57 | _rubik | Does mounting a device usually take a bit of time? |
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| 04:04.46 | _rubik | Yeah this is taking an unusually long time to mount the filesystem. Just a blinking cursor. I'm assuming something's awry |
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| 04:04.58 | themill | If you've got an external drive that you're plugging/unplugging then you'd need to think about where to install grub and not just follow what the installer suggests |
| 04:05.44 | _rubik | themill: Its not external. It's an internal ssd that I just had to unplug for a short period of time. |
| 04:05.58 | themill | same problem is likely though |
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| 04:06.23 | _rubik | themill: And what do you think is the issue here? |
| 04:06.35 | themill | _rubik: your description makes it sound like the bootloader is not installed on the right device |
| 04:07.03 | _rubik | themill: But how would unplugging the drive cause an issue when I plug it back up? |
| 04:07.20 | themill | oh, this is after you plug it back in? |
| 04:07.28 | _rubik | themill: Yes. |
| 04:07.48 | themill | "Whenever I unplug my SSD ⦠it says INSERT BOOT MEDIA" is what you said |
| 04:07.58 | themill | is thoroughly confused now |
| 04:08.12 | _rubik | themill: Everything is working dandy, I turn off, unplug, time goes by, I plug it back in, and the motherboard cannot find anydrive to boot from |
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| 04:08.36 | _rubik | themill: so yes it does say: "Insert proper boot media and press any key".. But thats not debian, thats my motherboard. |
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| 04:10.46 | _rubik | Yeah. When I try to mount the filesystem, it just hangs at a blinking cursor. So maybe the data is currupted? |
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| 04:11.26 | _rubik | I'm going to try installing on another drive, unplug, plug back in, and see if I can repeat the results. |
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| 04:12.44 | Rusty1_ | the output of dmesg after the plugin ,might be intructive |
| 04:14.32 | _rubik | Rusty1_: It cannot find the drive in the first place |
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| 04:20.51 | _rubik | Would forcing UEFI installation cause the issue? |
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| 04:22.20 | Rusty1_ | _rubik: if a hotplud of the sata drive is not seen by dmesg , then a cable, controller or drive hardware fault may be the problem |
| 04:22.34 | Rusty1_ | *hotplug |
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| 04:23.25 | Rusty1_ | try a different sata cable if available |
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| 04:26.54 | donald1 | in which folder I should choose the mount point of the installation? |
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| 04:33.01 | pclov3r | So i have a generic question. I don't follow debian that closely but I suppose Debian 8 is affected by CVE-2016-5696 and the kernel will be patched soon? |
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| 04:33.23 | themill | yes and yes |
| 04:33.50 | pclov3r | thanks |
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| 04:34.46 | grantwu | pclov3r: You can track status here: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-5696 |
| 04:35.55 | pclov3r | i think nearly every distro is affected by it. |
| 04:36.10 | grantwu | Yeah, since it's in the Linux kernel |
| 04:36.28 | grantwu | But the debian specific tracker lets you know when updates will go out via the debian apt repos |
| 04:36.32 | pclov3r | the only ones i think that aren't are bleeding edge distros |
| 04:36.33 | themill | that tracker link doesn't indicate that it is fixed in git |
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| 04:36.40 | jereluth | I cant figure this out my wireless lan card says it is hard blocked and i did fn f8 but that only toggles the soft block |
| 04:36.50 | grantwu | themill: It says Fixed by under Notes |
| 04:37.07 | themill | grantwu: no, that's upstream and means nothing for the package |
| 04:37.16 | themill | and means even less for stable |
| 04:37.34 | grantwu | Well... I thought you meant upstream when you said git |
| 04:37.45 | grantwu | I wasn't aware that debian had its own git repos |
| 04:37.56 | pclov3r | curious why it's classified as medium and not high? |
| 04:37.57 | themill | umm where do you think package development happens? |
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| 04:38.06 | pclov3r | tho it seems most are saying medium |
| 04:38.08 | grantwu | Well, I suppose it makes sense now |
| 04:38.25 | grantwu | pclov3r: I think because most things worth securing are secured by more than just TCP |
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| 04:39.40 | pclov3r | yeah thankfully it's nothing like heartbleed |
| 04:40.01 | themill | https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/kernel/linux.git/log/?h=jessie-security for reference |
| 04:44.19 | maurer | grantwu: Yeah, clearly nothing is just secured by tcp, like say, DNS zone transfers |
| 04:44.40 | maurer | grantwu: this isn't to say this is good design, but there are plenty of operations that this flaw weakens |
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| 04:50.02 | joneed | Could someone help me figure out why my grub bootloader keeps getting replaced by the windows bootloader? I have Debian 8 and Windows 10 on my laptop |
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| 04:50.29 | joneed | I've ran one of the grub bootloader repair tools which fixed the problem, temporarily and today the grub is gone again and replaced by windows |
| 04:51.15 | pclov3r | your using a EFI bootloader i suppose? |
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| 04:52.54 | joneed | Yes I suppose |
| 04:53.13 | pclov3r | and it happens every time you boot windows? |
| 04:54.10 | joneed | When I first installed Debian as second OS (had win10 already) the bootloader got replaced with the grub one and worked fine. After a few boots Windows reverts the bootloader back to the windows default which automatically boots me to windows |
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| 04:54.43 | pclov3r | yeah sounds like Wonderful windows 10 |
| 04:54.51 | pclov3r | and Microsoft wanting to take over your computer |
| 04:55.00 | joneed | Yup.. It's so annoying. |
| 04:55.19 | pclov3r | it's probably part of secure boto |
| 04:55.23 | pclov3r | i am guessing |
| 04:55.27 | pclov3r | tho you disabled that |
| 04:55.33 | joneed | Yeah, I've disabled it |
| 04:55.50 | pclov3r | i haven't yet moved to EFI |
| 04:55.52 | pclov3r | still doing MBR here |
| 04:56.05 | pclov3r | that might be the permanent solution |
| 04:56.12 | joneed | Ahh :p |
| 04:56.38 | pclov3r | hoepfully your laptop supports legacy boot |
| 04:56.44 | pclov3r | but you'll bascailly have to reinstall everything |
| 04:57.09 | joneed | I'll check it out now |
| 04:57.32 | joneed | Yeah it's a brand new laptop and I have the option to legacy boot |
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| 04:57.51 | pclov3r | the probelm may be getting widnwos media to install |
| 04:57.51 | joneed | Wel.. |
| 04:57.54 | pclov3r | and it may not like your key |
| 04:57.58 | joneed | True. |
| 04:58.08 | joneed | Is there anything else I could try though? |
| 04:58.22 | pclov3r | just reading there was stuff on google about renaming files |
| 04:58.23 | pclov3r | or something |
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| 04:58.43 | winterss | hi |
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| 05:03.42 | joneed | I'll try the Rescatux tool which should be able to recover grub |
| 05:03.54 | joneed | bootloader |
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| 05:05.07 | iamawesome | 8.5 , is it the latest version of debian now? |
| 05:05.17 | iamawesome | cat /etc/debian_version = 8.5 here |
| 05:05.21 | pingfloyd | of stable |
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| 05:05.41 | iamawesome | Yes, i'm using stable debian |
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| 05:06.28 | iamawesome | Debian stable is good, but some say they have older packages than other linux distro |
| 05:06.34 | pingfloyd | so |
| 05:06.46 | iamawesome | I think, archlinux has latest packages with them. |
| 05:07.02 | pingfloyd | archlinux has more regression too |
| 05:07.47 | iamawesome | Why doesn't debian stable upgrade their packages to newer version? |
| 05:08.09 | pingfloyd | because it's stable |
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| 05:08.17 | mutante | iamawesome: because "newer" also means less stable |
| 05:08.35 | Penix | ignore the troll |
| 05:09.02 | sm00th | who cares if its old |
| 05:09.02 | mutante | ok, Mister P |
| 05:09.14 | sm00th | I just had a problem with manjaro testing now when waking from sleep, ugh. |
| 05:09.21 | sm00th | which is based on arch |
| 05:09.34 | sm00th | gotta restart the network manager sometimes |
| 05:10.00 | mutante | as my grandpa said, "old" is somebody else's stable (well, the grandpa said something about owls and nightingales, but it fits) |
| 05:10.03 | sm00th | never had to before, and get a big error message on wake too now lol |
| 05:10.14 | sm00th | mutante, or how bout "dont' fix what aint broke" |
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| 05:10.55 | mutante | sm00th: yea, they say it's more American than European attitude, but i dunno about that |
| 05:11.06 | grantwu | iamawesome: There's almost always a tradeoff between stability and updates |
| 05:11.09 | sm00th | human nature |
| 05:11.19 | grantwu | Debian Stable picks stability |
| 05:11.37 | cra1g321 | depends on what you consider "stability! |
| 05:11.38 | sm00th | just gimme security updates and make sure drivers work with my games is all I ask lol |
| 05:11.43 | cra1g321 | "stability" |
| 05:11.44 | grantwu | It's not always the right choice - for example, I know of a package that's been functionally broken for months because there's a bugfix in an update |
| 05:12.04 | grantwu | That hasn't been backported. |
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| 05:12.12 | grantwu | That reminds me, I ought to go poke the debian maintainer again. |
| 05:12.13 | sm00th | I never have any problems with debian. every single other distro got issues for me though. |
| 05:12.32 | iamawesome | aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade; doesn't show anything, it is up to date |
| 05:12.37 | sm00th | and on top of that, more 3rd party programs compatible with debian over other distros |
| 05:12.43 | sm00th | well except ubuntu ones. |
| 05:12.44 | grantwu | iamawesome: Yes, you are probably up to date. |
| 05:12.51 | iamawesome | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 05:13.03 | iamawesome | cat /etc/debian_version = 8.5 |
| 05:13.08 | grantwu | Is there something in particular you are trying to accomplish? |
| 05:13.09 | sm00th | but usually iamawesome haven't been alot of updates this month i noticed as well |
| 05:13.13 | sm00th | i had some today though |
| 05:13.47 | pingfloyd | most of the updates are security fixes or major bugs |
| 05:13.59 | sm00th | Upgrade: gnupg:amd64 (1.4.18-7+deb8u1, 1.4.18-7+deb8u2), gpgv:amd64 (1.4.18-7+deb8u1, 1.4.18-7+deb8u2), libgcrypt20:amd64 (1.6.3-2+deb8u1, 1.6.3-2+deb8u2) |
| 05:14.24 | kminooie | speaking of stability, has anything changes in bridge related configuration stuff recently? cause I have been trying for 2 days now and none of the configuration examples in debian wiki site works in jessie? |
| 05:14.30 | pingfloyd | buy hey, choose a bleeding edge rolling release if you like things breaking a lot that were working fine before |
| 05:14.55 | sm00th | pingfloyd, cough, fedora, cough |
| 05:14.55 | kminooie | I am talking about interfaces file |
| 05:15.14 | iamawesome | I use , sudo aptitude update, is there any problem? |
| 05:15.26 | themill | What problem do you think there is? |
| 05:15.28 | iamawesome | I've installed sudo |
| 05:15.51 | pingfloyd | iamawesome: assuming you have a good sources.list, it means you're all up to date |
| 05:15.56 | cra1g321 | wonders who start this debian vs rolling release distro talk |
| 05:16.01 | cra1g321 | started* |
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| 05:16.36 | cra1g321 | pingfloyd, a rolling release distro is only as good as the user using it, if it breaks majority of the time its because of the user |
| 05:16.39 | iamawesome | I've this in /etc/sudoers = myname ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL |
| 05:16.47 | sm00th | during july 4th weekend was like no updates for a while afterwards |
| 05:16.55 | sm00th | or for a logn period I know |
| 05:17.08 | sm00th | seems to be back in routine now |
| 05:17.18 | kminooie | is there a systemd equivalent of what /etc/networking/interfaces accomplishes? |
| 05:17.21 | pingfloyd | cra1g321: I'll let you believe that |
| 05:17.35 | grantwu | kminooie: I believe that it should still work...? |
| 05:18.05 | iamawesome | rm is alwasy a destructive command, isn't it? |
| 05:18.09 | kminooie | it works for normal interfaces but I can't get it to set a bridge |
| 05:18.25 | cra1g321 | pingfloyd, and i'll let you believe your opinion on rolling release distros, which was the same as mine until i switched to arch 3months ago, before that it was debian sid, stable :) |
| 05:18.32 | iamawesome | Sometimes you can do: rm -rf * and Enter instead of rm -rf *.o |
| 05:18.33 | kminooie | thought I might have a better luck with systemd |
| 05:18.38 | pingfloyd | cra1g321: 3 months ago |
| 05:19.00 | cra1g321 | ? |
| 05:19.06 | kminooie | since ip works fine |
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| 05:19.32 | iamawesome | How can i know the name of the installed debian? |
| 05:19.35 | iamawesome | Is there any command? |
| 05:19.41 | iamawesome | I do: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 05:19.47 | iamawesome | That outputs the version |
| 05:19.50 | iamawesome | not the name |
| 05:19.58 | grantwu | iamawesome: lsb_release -a |
| 05:20.26 | grantwu | lsb_release -c if you just want the codename |
| 05:20.26 | iamawesome | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie) , |
| 05:20.27 | orb | or look at the /etc/issue* |
| 05:20.44 | kminooie | iamawesome: cat /etc/os-release |
| 05:21.22 | orb | Codename:jessie |
| 05:21.48 | orb | No LSB modules are available. |
| 05:21.48 | orb | Distributor ID:Debian |
| 05:21.48 | orb | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie) |
| 05:21.48 | orb | Release:8.5 |
| 05:21.49 | orb | Codename:jessie |
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| 05:21.51 | iamawesome | orb: cat /etc/issue doesn't have the name |
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| 05:22.13 | orb | oops |
| 05:22.14 | iamawesome | orb: cat /etc/issue doesn't have the name |
| 05:22.30 | iamawesome | orb: Use pastebin if you have to send more lines |
| 05:22.42 | iamawesome | So jessie is the latest stable debian, right? |
| 05:22.42 | orb | I was doing /exec -o lsb_release -a |
| 05:22.51 | orb | it is. |
| 05:23.20 | orb | I'm running a dos telnet client to my linux box. |
| 05:23.41 | iamawesome | What's dos telnet client? |
| 05:23.47 | iamawesome | How is dos in linux? |
| 05:23.57 | themill | .o0( maybe we could concentrate on actual support questions? ) |
| 05:24.15 | orb | I'm running dos on one machine and telnetting over there. |
| 05:24.27 | joneed | It seems like everything is against me. Tried to run Rescatux to fix my grub bootloader and I get kernel panic |
| 05:24.44 | joneed | and it gets stuck.. fml. |
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| 05:26.09 | iamawesome | joneed: What's fml? |
| 05:27.08 | joneed | just forget it, lol. |
| 05:27.15 | mutante | iamawesome: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fml |
| 05:27.30 | kminooie | so how can i debug issues with /etc/network/interfaces? is there a log that i can activate or increase its verbosity? |
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| 05:28.31 | _rubik | Ok guys so I tested on a second drive. |
| 05:28.36 | _rubik | And it happened again |
| 05:28.44 | _rubik | this time a HHD not SSD |
| 05:29.34 | mutante | _rubik: so does rule out "cable" and "drive" from the list? |
| 05:29.47 | mutante | that would just leave "controller" ..shrug |
| 05:29.58 | _rubik | rules out the drive. But eh cable idea doesn't make sense. |
| 05:30.33 | _rubik | Yeah I don't really know what's left ont he table. I'm going to try ubuntu 16.06 to rule out my debian install |
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| 05:33.29 | pingfloyd | kminooie: VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/networking |
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| 05:34.44 | kminooie | pingfloyd: thanks. good call |
| 05:34.50 | pingfloyd | no problem |
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| 05:54.24 | _rubik | Yeah ran the test again with Fedora and it passed. It must be a deb install issue |
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| 05:55.40 | _rubik | Ruling out hardware, would could be causing the deb issue? |
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| 08:07.05 | karooga | Hi any one experienced with configuring 3G USB dongles? |
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| 08:12.18 | karooga | anyone around? |
| 08:12.40 | hiya | karooga, yo |
| 08:12.56 | hiya | karooga, what kinda dongle is it? |
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| 08:15.47 | MaBunny | hello guys |
| 08:16.08 | karooga | huawei |
| 08:16.23 | karooga | 12d1:14dc |
| 08:16.24 | MaBunny | currently im trying to make my 16gb which i will use as a storage system accessable to all users |
| 08:16.46 | karooga | hiya: it works fine but the issue I'm having is apn settings |
| 08:17.07 | MaBunny | it doesnt has a debian in it,i just want to store some files onto it |
| 08:17.15 | MaBunny | so |
| 08:17.20 | hiya | karooga, what is the issue with it? Are you using wvdial? |
| 08:17.32 | hiya | or just the GUI? |
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| 08:17.40 | karooga | hiya: it doesn't persist them, meaning i have to access the webserver on the dongle to set it up |
| 08:17.45 | MaBunny | when i load the pendrive to the computer and open it in nautilus |
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| 08:18.02 | MaBunny | it doesnt let me to create new folders or paste files in ti |
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| 08:18.24 | MaBunny | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 33 Aug 20 19:11 /dev/sdc1 |
| 08:18.33 | hiya | MaBunny, is it NTFS formated? |
| 08:18.45 | karooga | hiya: no i'm not using wvdial - it's not clear to me what mechanism or program it's using to create the connection. It's actually raspbian i'm running on a RPi. |
| 08:18.46 | MaBunny | this is the pendrive's permissions |
| 08:18.52 | MaBunny | hiya its ext4 |
| 08:19.02 | hiya | karooga, Ok, i don't know man |
| 08:19.17 | hiya | MaBunny, ok then check out the hardware lock that most pendrives have? |
| 08:19.26 | MaBunny | i want to hav my normal user get access to it |
| 08:19.29 | hiya | ok |
| 08:19.34 | MaBunny | the root user has access but |
| 08:19.39 | MaBunny | not the normal user |
| 08:19.44 | karooga | hiya: do you have any idea whether it might be systemd that is doing the control? |
| 08:19.46 | hiya | policykit issues |
| 08:19.51 | hiya | MaBunny, ^ |
| 08:19.57 | hiya | how did you install? NOT gnome? |
| 08:20.04 | MaBunny | ?? |
| 08:20.07 | MaBunny | hiya? |
| 08:20.14 | hiya | MaBunny, how did you install Debian? |
| 08:20.37 | hiya | karooga, I have used them a lot time ago, but I am not sure man. I use to do it with wvdial |
| 08:20.52 | MaBunny | well,im logged in on my normal user |
| 08:21.13 | MaBunny | idk....i havent used special policies in my debian |
| 08:21.31 | karooga | hiya: ok cool, I'll dig around. |
| 08:21.40 | hiya | karooga, ok sorry man |
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| 08:21.59 | hiya | MaBunny, But how did you install Debian? Did you go with regular Gnome Installer? |
| 08:22.05 | MaBunny | yes |
| 08:22.22 | hiya | MaBunny, aptitude search policykit |
| 08:22.30 | MaBunny | i had the regular installation process with Gnome as GUI |
| 08:22.45 | hiya | do you see "i" for policykit-1 and policykit-1-gnome |
| 08:22.53 | MaBunny | wait |
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| 08:23.17 | MaBunny | policykit-1 |
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| 08:23.23 | MaBunny | policykit-1-gnome |
| 08:23.37 | MaBunny | yes i see |
| 08:24.07 | hiya | MaBunny, i ? |
| 08:24.09 | hiya | Or p? |
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| 08:24.13 | MaBunny | i |
| 08:24.25 | MaBunny | no p |
| 08:24.33 | MaBunny | 'p' |
| 08:24.47 | hiya | MaBunny, send me screenshot you are confusing me |
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| 08:25.05 | hiya | MaBunny, Also is it happening with each and every pen drive? |
| 08:25.14 | MaBunny | no |
| 08:26.49 | hiya | MaBunny, just this one? |
| 08:27.02 | hiya | Copy the data, reformat, and use |
| 08:27.02 | hiya | :D |
| 08:27.03 | MaBunny | hiya: http://paste.debian.net/790640/ |
| 08:27.14 | MaBunny | i hav reformatted |
| 08:27.32 | MaBunny | but i cant access the pendriv as a normal user |
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| 08:27.45 | winterss | hi earth |
| 08:27.47 | MaBunny | i want to access the pendrive as a normal user |
| 08:28.39 | hiya | MaBunny, but you can access other pendrives as normal user ? |
| 08:28.48 | MaBunny | yes |
| 08:29.03 | winterss | yea |
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| 08:29.33 | hiya | MaBunny, I don't see i or p in that pastebn |
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| 08:29.56 | MaBunny | not even policykit-1-gnome |
| 08:29.59 | olerem__ | hallo all, i'm one of developer of ath9k-htc firmware. It is opensource firmware for some of atheros wife adapters. What should be done to make debian free package for it? |
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| 08:30.41 | hiya | olerem__, i asked long back but since it is freezed, nothing can be done other than installing it manually |
| 08:30.52 | hiya | MaBunny, just don't use this pen drive :P |
| 08:31.02 | MaBunny | no way |
| 08:31.18 | reev | MaBunny you gotta dump that pen drive |
| 08:32.30 | MaBunny | reev you dump your mind |
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| 08:33.42 | Joost | I'm trying to find the 'compose key' setting in Jessie/gnome3.. but nothing seems to work (dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration is also ignored :/) |
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| 08:34.02 | Joost | I would expect it to be in the GUI in Settings > Keyboard > Typing |
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| 08:36.28 | olerem__ | hiya: what exactly is freezed? |
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| 08:53.11 | olerem__ | pleas fix me, the main problem of packaging ath9k-htc-fw is missing xtensa toolchain in debian repos. Is it correct? |
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| 08:58.19 | nkuttler | olerem__: try #debian-kernel on oftc |
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| 09:14.53 | archer121 | hi! Anyone knows where /etc/mysql/debian.cnf comes from? I accidently deleted it and now I want it back |
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| 09:22.15 | heller- | why does not debian color directories by default? |
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| 09:29.22 | Draggin | Good morning! |
| 09:30.56 | Draggin | I live in a relatively rural area in South Africa and our Internet connectivity options are rather limited. As a result, I use mobile broadband, which is generally just the most convenient. However, I have a little USB dongle that I used to use for connection. To get decent speed though, I actually need to roam on another network than the one I'm subscribed to, and I have no idea how to set that up in a Debian environment, since I obviously don't run the |
| 09:30.57 | Draggin | official software for the dongle. |
| 09:31.41 | Draggin | When using my old cellphone as a wi-fi hotspot, or tethered, it's easy to set it up, as the phone itself allows me to set up roaming. Any ideas as to how to do this...? |
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| 09:33.20 | heller- | If i want windows computers to find debian machine with hostname, do i need to install samba with no shares? |
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| 09:33.43 | _aeris_ | heller- > no, only avahi-daemon |
| 09:33.58 | _aeris_ | (bonjour/zeroconf protocol) |
| 09:34.35 | heller- | _aeris_: i install avahi and i can ping with ping hostname? |
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| 09:35.47 | heller- | nice |
| 09:35.50 | heller- | it really does work |
| 09:35.51 | heller- | thanks :) |
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| 09:36.27 | miroesq | different dates are showing up on 3 separate installs of debian even though i used timedatectl set-timezone Africa/Cairo |
| 09:36.52 | miroesq | i even have one machine which shows the date as jan 1 2013 |
| 09:37.03 | miroesq | how do i force them to sync with the correct time? |
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| 09:43.15 | miroesq | anyone? :) |
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| 10:15.58 | heller- | so for sending emails, postfix or exim4, or does it matter? |
| 10:16.01 | heller- | settings up zabbix here |
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| 10:20.10 | StoBrendo | hi there i want to install ruby 2.2 on a debian system but i only get 2.1 from repos |
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| 10:20.45 | StoBrendo | how could i install ruby 2.2 on debian? |
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| 10:38.30 | winsen1 | hi all |
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| 10:42.21 | bibble | heller-: postfix seems more common than exim4 ... if zabbix doesn't state a specific, use postfix |
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| 10:46.27 | heller- | roger |
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| 11:05.18 | StoBrendo | Hi , i needto install ruby2.2 on debian jessie, do anyone how could i do it? |
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| 11:21.49 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: Debian 8 comes with 2.1.5, does you program explicitely require 2.2? |
| 11:22.20 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: I think the only way to do this is by local install, you could backport the ruby package from testing, but that is 2.3. |
| 11:22.43 | shellclear | hello, would I like to know how many swap it's necessary to hibernate a laptop with 16GB RAM |
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| 11:23.15 | wsky | shellclear: around 20 GB should be sufficient |
| 11:23.36 | shellclear | ok, why not 16GB? |
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| 11:23.48 | wsky | you can do 16 GB as well |
| 11:24.09 | wsky | i dubt you'll make itto a point where you got all of your ram filled and you altready are swapping |
| 11:24.24 | wsky | the old, general rule is to have twice ram size swap |
| 11:24.45 | shellclear | ubuntu docs says : Ubuntu Desktop uses Swap to Hibernate (PC off, no power needed, program states saved). If Hibernation is important to you, have more swap space than ram + swap overflow. |
| 11:24.48 | wsky | but the hibernation process compressess the data so it's actually smaller in swap than it was in ram |
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| 11:25.29 | shellclear | I'm using a swapfile, but some times hibernation fail when come back |
| 11:25.45 | wsky | what is your machine and kernel? |
| 11:26.07 | wsky | some kernels suffer from a hibernation related bug on some machines |
| 11:26.11 | shellclear | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:26.26 | shellclear | Dell machine |
| 11:26.28 | wsky | hm try compiling 4.1.30 and see does it still happen |
| 11:26.41 | petn-randall | shellclear: Swap file is less reliable than swap partition, I'd use the latter when I can. |
| 11:26.52 | wsky | i remember having issues with hibernation on this machine wqith 3.16 too |
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| 11:27.27 | shellclear | hummm ok |
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| 11:28.45 | shellclear | would swap partition solve the problem? |
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| 11:29.12 | wsky | try it out but also have your kernel release in mind |
| 11:29.22 | wsky | as i said, some kernels does not work with hiberantion well |
| 11:29.23 | petn-randall | shellclear: It could. Hibernating to swap file never was reliable, I don't know if they fixed the issues that were at hand. |
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| 11:29.40 | wsky | don't* |
| 11:30.02 | shellclear | ok, thanky petn-randall and wsky, thank you very much |
| 11:30.08 | wsky | np, ^5 |
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| 11:32.33 | CuteMeOwnThroat | judd, kernels |
| 11:32.34 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc7-686 (4.7~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1) |
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| 11:32.55 | CuteMeOwnThroat | there's a 4.6.0 in jessie-backports, too |
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| 11:43.45 | winsen1 | recently I added libre office from "backport sources" unfortunately it doesn't work. any clue? |
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| 11:45.59 | towo` | "doesn't work" is saying zero |
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| 11:58.02 | CuteMeOwnThroat | coke zero? |
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| 11:59.38 | Putti | Any idea if the netinst for jessie includes drivers for some huawei 3g usb modem (I don't know the exact specs so if someone knows generally if there is drivers for 3g usb modems). If there is, which driver should I choose in the netinstaller's detect network hardware step? |
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| 12:00.16 | Putti | Also, I know that this 3g modem works with debian jessie gnome installation |
| 12:01.49 | Putti | Ok, I got the exact (well almost) model this is: Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E230/E270/E870 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem |
| 12:04.15 | StoBrendo | petn-randall: I kind of need (would make life much easier) to use compass. I did sudo apt-get install ruby-compass ruby-sass but when running compass it fails and complains about not having core_ext installed. When i try to install it it complains about not having ruby >=2.2 installed |
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| 12:42.02 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: Err, where do you have ruby-compass from? The one from the release should work with ruby from that release. Looks like you are mixing different releases, which is not a good idea. |
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| 12:44.06 | StoBrendo | petn-randall: i'm not, this is my sources.list , http://sprunge.us/eFBg |
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| 12:44.54 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy'? â http://paste.debian.net |
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| 12:49.52 | missmbob | Joost: not working here anyway |
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| 12:51.29 | StoBrendo | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/790664/ (whats wrong with sprunge?) |
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| 12:57.13 | Engys | Hi, what does it mean if linux-image-4.6 is installed but Debian Stretch uname -a returns 3.16 |
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| 13:02.38 | Engys | ok I see /boot/grub/grub.cfg has 4.6 .. looks like Debian did not refresh my main mbr |
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| 13:02.53 | wsky | Engys: you just didn't boot the kernel |
| 13:03.20 | wsky | and it has nothing to do with your mbr |
| 13:06.35 | Engys | ah ok my first and second harddrive hold Archlinux .. my third Debian .. looks like I need to fix it manually |
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| 13:09.30 | Engys | and I thought grub is able to analyze boot order of my partitions |
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| 13:11.48 | CuteMeOwnThroat | what's that supposed to mean |
| 13:12.02 | tremon | Engys: the boot order of your partitions has nothing to do with what kernel is chosen |
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| 13:16.49 | Engys | tremon, sure but even if I try to select Debians kernel I can only select 3.2 and that shows me that Debian wrote his Grub information somewhere else than Arch is doing |
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| 13:17.34 | tremon | ah, that's true. You're simply not booting from your debian installation at all |
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| 13:22.03 | Lal | Hey guys, Is there any special channel for Debian web? |
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| 13:23.17 | missmbob | Lal: you mean #debian-www ? |
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| 13:28.08 | ArchNoob | it's empty :( or am i doing it wrong? missmbob |
| 13:28.24 | ArchNoob | #debian-www |
| 13:28.58 | Lal | missmbob: I really don't know |
| 13:29.19 | tremon | all other debian channels are on oftc, not freenode |
| 13:29.35 | Lal | ArchNoob: Most of their channel are empty. |
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| 13:39.14 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: I guess sprunge is also ok, I just added it out of habit. pastebin.com for example doesn't work if you use a browser without JS. |
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| 13:40.16 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: Are you sure you're running compass from the package? Does 'which compass' return /usr/bin/compass, or something else? |
| 13:40.46 | petn-randall | StoBrendo: I'd be surprised if the packaged ruby-compass wouldn't work and go unnoticed for so long. |
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| 13:50.13 | Engys | tremon, wsky thanks for your eye .. grub-mkconfig & grub-install fixed the problem |
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| 13:51.44 | tremon | Engys: you probably won't be able to boot into arch now then. be sure to install os-prober to have debian's grub autodetect the other installs (I'm not sure if it will detect the correct kernels though) |
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| 14:45.02 | atralhea- | how can I limit a specific port speed on debian server? |
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| 14:45.43 | petn-randall | atralhea-: For what service? |
| 14:46.02 | petn-randall | atralhea-: Port as in Ethernet port, or TCP/UDP port? |
| 14:46.35 | jez9999 | Hello. I have "debsums -c -e" reporting some changed config files, and some "missing file"s. How can I get hold of the default config files? |
| 14:46.51 | atralhea- | petn-randall: im suing shadowsocks, its a proxy tool, lets say I want to give 10 ports to it, and limit each port to 1mb/s speed for download and upload, how can I do it? |
| 14:46.54 | jez9999 | is there a way to extract them from the packages that are presumably on my system? |
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| 14:47.25 | atralhea- | pentiumone133: TCP/UPD, im not sure which, its socks proxy |
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| 14:48.48 | tremon | !tell jez9999 about confmiss |
| 14:49.04 | petn-randall | atralhea-: You can use tc or even iptables to limit incoming/outgoing traffic by bandwidth. |
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| 14:49.21 | tremon | jez9999: you can also use dpkg -x to extract an entire .deb in a location of your choosing, for manual inspection |
| 14:49.34 | jez9999 | tremon: where would the .debs be |
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| 14:50.27 | tremon | they're kept in /var/cache/apt/archives, but you can always download them with apt-get download $pkg |
| 14:50.46 | tremon | (downloads to the current directory) |
| 14:50.58 | jez9999 | ok |
| 14:51.01 | petn-randall | jez9999: You can download them with 'apt-get install -d foo', should be in /var/cache/apt. |
| 14:51.42 | petn-randall | Indeed, apt-get download is the better approach. |
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| 14:52.18 | tremon | for completeness sake, apt-get install -d downloads to /var/cache, and apt-get download puts in the file in the current directory |
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| 14:56.38 | jez9999 | ok it couldn't find the hdparm.rules file in the extracted hdparm package |
| 14:56.59 | jez9999 | even though debsums reported it missing |
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| 15:15.19 | winsen1 | Hi all |
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| 15:16.23 | winsen1 | does anyone know how to restore grub. I can access windows partition sda1. |
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| 15:16.52 | winsen1 | *I mean I can not access... |
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| 15:18.01 | tremon | what do you mean "restore"? grub itself will not help you access filesystems (well, it can, but it's a lousy filemanager...) |
| 15:19.34 | winsen1 | tremon: to fix the grub2.2 |
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| 15:21.41 | winsen1 | tremon: I did from ubuntu live usb but I am still can not access to windows partition. first time I thought I didn't have enough space. now that I know I have more than 11GB free. I think it's enough for windoz |
| 15:22.15 | petn-randall | winsen1: You want to boot the Windows? Is that your question? |
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| 15:23.23 | winsen1 | petn-randall: yes |
| 15:25.23 | tremon | winsen1: did you install os-prober in debian? |
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| 15:26.34 | winsen1 | tremon: I am using debian for many years, I didn't have any problem with the grub |
| 15:27.32 | winsen1 | tremon: I've been using debian for awhile..but it's first that I had this problem.. |
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| 15:28.15 | petn-randall | winsen1: Are you running with a classic BIOS, or UEFI? |
| 15:28.51 | winsen1 | classic bios |
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| 15:31.41 | winsen1 | petn-randall: good question. because when I run my machine it says firmware error or disabled something like that. |
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| 15:35.03 | petn-randall | winsen1: If you installed an OS, and change from UEFI to classic mode (CSR), your OS will fail to boot. Can you show us the error? |
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| 15:41.13 | winsen1 | petn-randall: no it has bios |
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| 15:42.33 | winsen1 | petn-randall: so no EFI/UEFI |
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| 15:46.07 | winsen1 | petn-randall: In fact when I try to access to win7 it goes back to the main menu of the grub. |
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| 15:48.14 | petn-randall | winsen1: Does it throw an error? |
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| 15:48.42 | debidi | winsen1: try to boot win7 step by step from the grub command line, set root=(hdX,msdosY); chainloader +1; boot |
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| 15:51.43 | StoBrendo | petn-randall: /usr/local/bin/compass and /usr/bin/compass those are the paths. I'm trying to install it on a vps machine, on my local machine I've already installed it and works fine, I remember I had to install some dependencies by hand but I did it and worked fine. Btw, i preffer sprunge because you pipe the command to : | curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us and it returns you the url through curl |
| 15:51.53 | winsen1 | petn-randall: no message error when I try to boot on win7. It just goes back to the main menu of the grub2.2 |
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| 15:53.01 | winsen1 | debibi: I don't follow you. do you by safe mode of debian? because I can not use even safe mode on windows because it goes back to the main menu as I said above. |
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| 15:54.25 | winsen1 | brb |
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| 15:56.43 | stoned | StoBrendo: alias sprunge='curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us' -- cat /path/to/something|sprunge |
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| 15:57.30 | StoBrendo | stoned: I preffer this, alias webshare='curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us > output && xclip -selection c -i <(printf $(cat output))' |
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| 15:57.54 | stoned | xcilp implies X |
| 15:58.23 | StoBrendo | i've got X on my local machine :V i don't have any aliases at all on vps had not enough time for that by now xD |
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| 15:58.50 | StoBrendo | but i also have the sprunge alias xD |
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| 15:59.52 | ritztech | anyone like the way AWS IOT is ( im trying to build 20 wifi tester units to show speed upload/download latency portalpage timeout redirects and then send it to maybe IoT aws |
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| 16:00.38 | stoned | debidi: he just needs to run grub-update iirc, and that should detect and update his windows 7 entry. he might need to reinstall grub if windows took it over. |
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| 16:03.28 | stoned | debidi: you can advise him to see https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html |
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| 16:13.08 | winsen | debidi, petn-randall>: I tried again with all windows option "safe mode, debugging..etc" it always goes back to the main menu of the grub. this is result if dsmeg: http://paste.debian.net/790679/ |
| 16:13.50 | winsen | AS you can see error on usb1 : failed, rtlwifi...don't know why and ho to fix it? |
| 16:14.23 | winsen | also blutooth: failed |
| 16:16.17 | winsen | brb |
| 16:17.25 | Azitrex | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:18.29 | stoned | no |
| 16:18.46 | stoned | Azitrex: how much ram does your machine have> |
| 16:19.02 | Azitrex | 512 MB stoned |
| 16:19.26 | Azitrex | i fact it's a vitural machine (server node) |
| 16:19.34 | Azitrex | Virtual * |
| 16:21.14 | stoned | Azitrex: you can use 64 bits and you'll be good |
| 16:21.44 | jelly | Azitrex: depending on the app, you may see no difference to some 5-10% difference typically |
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| 16:21.52 | stoned | No need to use 32bit unless you have to. RAM wouldn't really be an issue. |
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| 16:22.38 | Azitrex | stoned: yes 512MB of ram is enough to running but when i have some other heavy services to running Ram is a main problem and i have challenge to my sys Admin for that |
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| 16:23.58 | rozie | Azitrex: rather use swap or read about zram |
| 16:24.07 | stoned | Azitrex: you can get more ram or use swap space |
| 16:24.08 | rozie | BTW what do you have running there? |
| 16:24.15 | Azitrex | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.24 | rozie | 0,5 GB is pretty much |
| 16:24.37 | rozie | (for a small server) |
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| 16:25.05 | rozie | change 64bit -> 32bit is not worth your work, probably |
| 16:25.30 | rozie | I'd be surpised if you gain 10% |
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| 16:28.14 | sm00th | rhythmbox doesn't have an equalizer? |
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| 16:32.31 | stoned | libasound2-plugin-equal I use an eq in alsa |
| 16:32.55 | sm00th | stoned, i use pulseaudio will it work? |
| 16:33.10 | sm00th | there is the pulseaudio-equalizer but i have to find a repo or deb to download for it |
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| 16:33.23 | sm00th | I have found one in the past forget which one i used |
| 16:33.45 | sm00th | I'd rather not have to install another music program :/ |
| 16:34.17 | stoned | https://github.com/luqmana/rhythmbox-plugins/tree/master/equalizer |
| 16:34.19 | sm00th | but then again maybe better then trusting some 3rd party |
| 16:34.24 | stoned | Check it out |
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| 16:34.35 | sm00th | oh cool |
| 16:34.46 | sm00th | is there a way to do like a gpg check on that? |
| 16:34.54 | sm00th | I'm noob don't use git often |
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| 16:34.59 | stoned | it's from github and the soruce is right there |
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| 16:35.24 | OerHeks | Clementine is much faster with large music collections, and has a build-in equalizer. |
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| 16:36.15 | sm00th | hmm never used clementine have used banshee |
| 16:36.45 | bipul | Is there any difference between umask and ACL's mask ? |
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| 16:37.48 | stoned | I've been using clementine for a long time |
| 16:37.57 | sm00th | there is a package called rhythmbox plugins |
| 16:38.03 | sm00th | in the debian repo would that have it? |
| 16:38.22 | sm00th | oh its already installed lol |
| 16:38.49 | stoned | http://i.imgur.com/r8mIeO7.png |
| 16:38.58 | sm00th | no equalizer though so weird |
| 16:39.03 | sm00th | for a music player |
| 16:39.19 | sm00th | I don't think juk has one either |
| 16:39.38 | stoned | http://i.imgur.com/qqLiCDK.png |
| 16:39.40 | stoned | clementine does |
| 16:39.48 | stoned | built in |
| 16:39.50 | sm00th | ya but I'd rather not install it if I don't have to |
| 16:40.20 | stoned | it's better than rhythmbox |
| 16:40.22 | stoned | or amarok |
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| 16:40.34 | sm00th | oh god amarok, it was horrible |
| 16:40.41 | jelly | it's a clone of amarok (1.4) |
| 16:40.42 | sm00th | crashed all the time especially on importing large libraries |
| 16:40.49 | sm00th | you couldn't really shuffle everything unless you wanted to kill your pc |
| 16:40.50 | sm00th | haha |
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| 16:41.03 | stoned | rhythmbox is a clone of amarok btw |
| 16:41.12 | sm00th | it works great though |
| 16:41.15 | sm00th | just has no fkn equalizer |
| 16:41.16 | stoned | clementine doesn't try to clone but it' ssimilar |
| 16:41.25 | stoned | I eman they're all music players |
| 16:41.47 | sm00th | i need to be able to handle large libraries and have a good shuffle |
| 16:41.56 | sm00th | and to easily add files to playlist |
| 16:41.57 | stoned | Clementine is super fast |
| 16:42.06 | sm00th | are you a dev fro clementine or something? lol |
| 16:42.13 | stoned | No |
| 16:42.18 | sm00th | banshee is my fav right now |
| 16:42.22 | stoned | I'm a passionate music enthusiast lover guy dude man |
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| 16:42.37 | sm00th | on fedora you can't stop them from communicating with like one of those servers |
| 16:42.38 | sm00th | haha |
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| 16:42.57 | sm00th | so on qubes i have to use rhythmbox or banshee in a vm with no net |
| 16:43.01 | jelly | anygoo |
| 16:43.02 | sm00th | its bizarre |
| 16:43.04 | jelly | !tias |
| 16:43.04 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 16:43.19 | sm00th | supposedly to one of those song lyric cd cover shits even with all that stuff turned off |
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| 16:45.54 | sm00th | fk i guess i have to use git |
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| 16:47.10 | stoned | mkdir ~/github; cd ~/github; git clone somethingfromgithub; cp plugindir $HOME/.local/share/rhythmbox/plugins/; restart rythmbox |
| 16:47.17 | sm00th | I'm not supposed to run git with sudo right? |
| 16:47.20 | stoned | why do you fear github? |
| 16:47.25 | stoned | does it scare you? |
| 16:47.27 | sm00th | stoned, yes |
| 16:47.29 | sm00th | lol |
| 16:47.37 | stoned | Does it blow you away?! |
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| 16:47.46 | sm00th | not sure what that means |
| 16:47.51 | stoned | nothing. |
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| 16:48.39 | sm00th | stoned, I'm afraid I'm gonan give too much permission |
| 16:49.03 | stoned | People only fear what they do not understand. |
| 16:49.15 | stoned | I recommend that you learn permissions. |
| 16:49.16 | sm00th | thats true alot |
| 16:49.23 | sm00th | i'd rather not take the chance |
| 16:49.32 | wsky | stoned: what's your favorite philosopher? |
| 16:49.34 | sm00th | because in truth doesn't matter how much you know we all human |
| 16:49.44 | wsky | stoned: or what's the most understood person by you you know? |
| 16:49.58 | stoned | wsky: philosophy is a mental game designed by the monkeys to entertain themselves. The only thought that matters is taht is authentic and born from within. |
| 16:50.06 | stoned | But that's a conversation for another time and place. |
| 16:50.10 | wsky | would you not be scared if he/she would aim at you with an ak? |
| 16:50.15 | sm00th | stoned, even if its asinine? |
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| 16:50.34 | sm00th | or a poison thought for humanity. you wouldn't support the sane ones? |
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| 16:50.54 | stoned | Thought without judgment. :) |
| 16:51.18 | stoned | A human mind conditioned by thought since childhood... how does one decondition this condition so one can truly observe the mind in silent darkness? |
| 16:51.22 | sm00th | I'd have a guilty conscious about doing nothing while everything goes down in flames. |
| 16:51.29 | stoned | Ah, don't get me goin. I'm gonna go be stoney. Later. |
| 16:51.31 | sm00th | or not even voicing my thoughts about it. |
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| 16:53.06 | stoned | wsky: sm00th: I'm a trippy hippy monkey. Feel free to read my thoughts on life at https://stoned.io and discus sin 3#stoned. |
| 16:53.22 | stoned | ## |
| 16:53.34 | wsky | always discuss sin |
| 16:53.56 | wsky | (ye i'm aware it was a typo but i'm just fooling around) |
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| 16:55.56 | stoned | wsky: https://stoned.io/psychedelics/I-Conform-To-Nothing/ I guess you could say I really like Emerson. |
| 16:55.58 | petn-randall | coughs and mumbles something about #debian-offtopic. |
| 16:56.07 | stoned | True. |
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| 17:19.53 | shortCircuit__ | hi here |
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| 17:20.23 | shortCircuit__ | has anyone used voyager ? and a virtualbox .. I am having trouble installing it |
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| 17:20.38 | sm00th | stoned, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=116909 |
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| 17:20.44 | sm00th | also this guy did not have success |
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| 17:21.19 | stoned | I don't use testing. I don't use rhythmbox. In fact, I don't even really use clementine much. I mostly use youtube. |
| 17:21.35 | sm00th | i figured as much |
| 17:21.39 | stoned | mytube. |
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| 17:21.52 | shortCircuit__ | the virtualbox has only /dev/sda .. how do I partition it? into /dev/sda1 and sda2 with fdisk /dev/sda ? |
| 17:21.52 | sm00th | some stuff i listen too is not found online or on radio |
| 17:21.58 | sm00th | only in the deep web hehe |
| 17:22.02 | sm00th | not dark though |
| 17:22.12 | stoned | shortCircuit__: yes |
| 17:22.27 | sm00th | everyone is just like sheeps now |
| 17:22.30 | sm00th | rats in a maze |
| 17:22.34 | shortCircuit__ | okies |
| 17:22.37 | sm00th | you call it mytube, but is it really? |
| 17:22.38 | sm00th | lol |
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| 17:22.45 | sm00th | facebook and twitter do the same shit |
| 17:22.55 | sm00th | they try to guide you |
| 17:22.57 | shortCircuit__ | mytube? what are we talking? |
| 17:23.10 | sm00th | shortCircuit__, about how all the social media websites try to influence you |
| 17:23.16 | sm00th | under the guise they know what you want |
| 17:23.22 | sm00th | by your past habits |
| 17:23.47 | shortCircuit__ | ah .. good for ppl who actually use facebook and twitter to be social |
| 17:23.50 | sm00th | so look at something once they want you to look at more. and they will treat it like you love the shit. |
| 17:24.00 | sm00th | shortCircuit__, they aren't being social |
| 17:24.07 | sm00th | just talking about themselves while being brainwashed |
| 17:24.15 | shortCircuit__ | ah |
| 17:24.16 | sm00th | a chatroom like this is more social |
| 17:24.18 | jelly | sm00th: stick to tech support in this channel please. |
| 17:24.36 | shortCircuit__ | I prefer human interaction |
| 17:24.42 | sm00th | facebook and twitter just are kind of narcissistic when you think about it |
| 17:24.44 | shortCircuit__ | :D |
| 17:24.46 | sm00th | thats what its for |
| 17:24.51 | sm00th | probably why trump likes it so much too haha |
| 17:25.04 | sm00th | forums and chatrooms are more socila, and more like "word a mouth" |
| 17:25.08 | jelly | !offtopic |
| 17:25.08 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 17:25.30 | sm00th | facebook and twitter are ways to subliminally try to influence your mind by corporations and gov'ts |
| 17:25.35 | sm00th | advertisers |
| 17:25.49 | sm00th | but then again, arab spring |
| 17:25.59 | sm00th | tks to Hillary lol |
| 17:26.03 | sm00th | and the college kids |
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| 17:26.07 | stoned | The reason why I even wanted clementine was b/c I dislike GTK |
| 17:26.26 | stoned | I asked in here a few months ago about a qt based music player that had build in radios and all that stuff |
| 17:26.33 | jelly | really. move your chatting to #debian-offtopic people |
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| 17:29.04 | stoned | These days, I use youtube-dl to download a bunch of GoaTrance albums from youtube, use ffmpeg to convert to mp3, and this directory is watched by google msuic so it uplaods the new mp3 files and you know, it's good. One little bash script and you get the file and transcode and upload. Then just download on phone on wifi and the listen offline and save data |
| 17:29.26 | stoned | With online services, hoarding music is... silly. |
| 17:29.36 | stoned | I'm just trying to save bandwidth |
| 17:29.45 | jelly | yeah, youtube-dl can be told to just grab audio and ignore video |
| 17:29.56 | stoned | Oh really. |
| 17:30.01 | stoned | That's helpful |
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| 17:30.53 | jelly | don't know how, I just mpv -no-video some yt song, it calls youtube-dl the appropriate way |
| 17:31.00 | stoned | https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master/README.md#options |
| 17:31.02 | stoned | reading |
| 17:31.11 | stoned | Ah. |
| 17:31.42 | stoned | -x, --extract-audio --audio-format FORMAT Specify audio format: "best", "aac", |
| 17:31.47 | stoned | found it. Cool. |
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| 17:33.42 | stoned | Alright. Let's see what happens with youtube-dl -x --audio-format mp3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZUfrMNqCQM shpongle |
| 17:34.24 | stoned | [ffmpeg] Destination: Shpongle - Ineffable Mysteries From Shpongleland [Full Album]-WZUfrMNqCQM.mp3 Oh man, I had to script that. I should have read the docs. Wicked. |
| 17:34.30 | wsky | stoned: you can get mp3 ootb with youtube-dl? |
| 17:34.39 | stoned | sure, here it is. |
| 17:34.51 | stoned | need to automate tagging using file name. |
| 17:34.56 | stoned | hm.. i wonder how. |
| 17:35.00 | wsky | i didn't know, i always was converting webm after it was downloaded |
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| 17:35.07 | wsky | stoned: -t |
| 17:35.16 | stoned | oh word, it has --add-metadata (youtube-dl) |
| 17:35.32 | stoned | Parse additional metadata like song title / |
| 17:35.34 | stoned | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.40 | stoned | This is excellent. |
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| 17:36.33 | wsky | heh they've released 4.7.2 right after i've downloaded 4.7.1 |
| 17:36.41 | stoned | wsky: not title, google music doesn't use that from file name. I mean mp3 id3 tags |
| 17:36.49 | wsky | aaah |
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| 17:36.51 | wsky | i see |
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| 17:40.15 | shortCircuit__ | ok I have created two partitions /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 2 and 6 Gig and formatted to ext4 |
| 17:40.38 | stoned | I'm guessing for / and /home |
| 17:40.46 | stoned | You think 2gb will be enough for / ? |
| 17:41.10 | stoned | shortCircuit__: what are you going to do with this vm? |
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| 17:41.20 | shortCircuit__ | now should I add /dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults 0 0 and /dev/sda2 /home ext4 defaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab ? in my normal debian , I don't see any such entries in the /etc/fstab |
| 17:42.00 | stoned | shortCircuit__: what are you trying to do? You created a vm with an hdd and made two partitions. Are you installing debian in there? |
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| 17:42.30 | shortCircuit__ | I am actually trying to install voyager (a debian variation) inside a VM |
| 17:42.42 | stoned | Can't help you with anything but debian. |
| 17:42.43 | shortCircuit__ | Oracle's VirtualBox to be exact |
| 17:42.58 | stoned | I don't know anything but Star Trek Voyager |
| 17:42.59 | shortCircuit__ | its is debian,just trimmed down |
| 17:43.51 | missmbob | !based on |
| 17:43.51 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 17:43.55 | missmbob | no, doesn't count |
| 17:44.23 | jelly | maybe the bot knows where to get help for it |
| 17:44.25 | jelly | !voyager |
| 17:44.34 | shortCircuit__ | I am just asking how to partition in a VM , (I am on a very low bandwith, imagine 10kbps download rate) .. in debian the guide was there, I didn't know what went in the bkground |
| 17:44.49 | shortCircuit__ | there is no voyager |
| 17:44.58 | jelly | too late! |
| 17:45.03 | shortCircuit__ | oh god |
| 17:46.04 | jelly | but in any case, if it's for casual use you'll probably want a single big partition for almost everything and a small one for swap, maybe 1GB |
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| 17:46.41 | missmbob | plus it's based on ubuntu, btw. not debian. |
| 17:46.45 | jelly | an installation of debian 64bit with default GUI takes about 4GB |
| 17:46.52 | awal1 | shortCircuit_, just create the partitions you want for your debian gest as you have done for you debian host. then instal starvoyager pkg |
| 17:47.03 | awal1 | guest ^ |
| 17:47.06 | stoned | !mmhr |
| 17:47.06 | dpkg | from memory, mmhr is #del# |
| 17:47.11 | stoned | O_o |
| 17:47.29 | stoned | It used to be a link to meeting min hw req. |
| 17:47.44 | stoned | install guide |
| 17:48.28 | shortCircuit__ | I was just asking for the fstab |
| 17:48.41 | shortCircuit__ | anyway |
| 17:49.01 | jelly | fstab is populated automatically, unless you're doing debootstrap |
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| 17:50.38 | shortCircuit__ | hmm i see |
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| 17:51.23 | hassoon | 'sup |
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| 17:53.52 | CuteMeOwnThroat | missmbob, not this one: http://linux.voyage.hk/ |
| 17:54.32 | missmbob | there should not be two voyages :/ |
| 17:55.27 | CuteMeOwnThroat | yeah, seems like the voyagerlive url is a completely different one... but that's also based on debian or ubuntu or a couple of others |
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| 17:55.41 | CuteMeOwnThroat | still... makes it hard to write a factoid on it |
| 17:56.07 | TomTomTo1 | based on relations are transitive anyway :> |
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| 17:57.20 | CuteMeOwnThroat | oh, wait voyager <-> voyage *rubs glasses, then rubs eyes* |
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| 17:58.11 | CuteMeOwnThroat | I still think he meant voyage, because of that "stripped down" comment |
| 17:58.26 | CuteMeOwnThroat | dpkg, voyage |
| 17:58.26 | dpkg | Voyage Linux is a distribution <based on Debian> targetted for x86 embedded platforms. Supported via mailing list. http://linux.voyage.hk/ Not supported in #debian. |
| 17:58.29 | CuteMeOwnThroat | ha |
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| 18:00.52 | bmomjian | Can someone explain what this kernel message means? Is it a bad ethernet adaptor or CPU, or neither? Both seem to be working fine now. http://momjian.us/tmp/dmesg.txt |
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| 18:01.24 | CuteMeOwnThroat | and not that one: http://voyagerlive.org/index.php/live-voyager-8-debian-jessie/ |
| 18:01.56 | jelly | bmomjian: hard to say, might be the driver or the hardware or the firmware |
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| 18:02.46 | bmomjian | This is Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie) |
| 18:02.48 | jelly | bmomjian: since it looks like a server board, try to update all the firmware (including the network cards, I guess) first |
| 18:02.51 | CuteMeOwnThroat | bmomjian, mmh. all/most/many kernel traces containing "slowpath" are rather hard to pin down in their meaning |
| 18:03.25 | jelly | bmomjian: how often does that happen? |
| 18:03.29 | bmomjian | when you say firmware, you mean the motherboard firmware or some OS firmware? I have the most current Debian patches. |
| 18:03.45 | jelly | motherboard and all other hardware |
| 18:03.50 | pfred1 | bmomjian how can an OS have firmware? |
| 18:03.57 | bmomjian | let me check |
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| 18:04.11 | bmomjian | no idea but I thought the firmware was just for boot mostly |
| 18:05.49 | bmomjian | it has happened only this one time since I have logs that go back to July 18 |
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| 18:06.30 | jelly | bmomjian: ethernet cards have firmware, power management has firmware, acpi and smm run all the time, remote management... |
| 18:06.46 | bmomjian | oh, I don't think I have ever updated those. |
| 18:06.52 | petn-randall | bmomjian: I could trigger that bug via my e1000e Ethernet device when it was part of a network bridge. Do you have a similar setup? |
| 18:06.56 | CuteMeOwnThroat | bmomjian, could be that one: http://blog.andreas-haerter.com/2013/02/11/intel-82574l-network-nic-aspm-bug-e1000-linux-rhel-centos-sl-6.3 |
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| 18:09.43 | bmomjian | the only change three weeks ago was to go to 1Gb ethernet switch from 100Mb. |
| 18:09.57 | bmomjian | I am not sure what a network bridge is |
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| 18:11.20 | bmomjian | I just read on this. Yes, it is doing bridging from the local network to the public network. |
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| 18:15.09 | shortCircuit__ | after powerdowning a VM , the os that I installed in /dev/sda1 will stay or be wiped |
| 18:15.25 | bmomjian | Yikes, super-micro wants me to create a floppy, while there is no floppy drive on this system. |
| 18:15.30 | bmomjian | http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/results.aspx |
| 18:15.31 | Pr0metheus | i restored an image of my debian system to a new SSD. I installed GRUB but now when i try to boot from the SSD get "Missing operating system". I did the grub-update as suggested on some sites but nothing changed. The odd thing is that it boots to the new disk if i set bios to boot from the old disk! |
| 18:15.51 | jelly | bmomjian: I can send this usb-floppy drive to you for just $200 + S/H |
| 18:15.54 | jelly | hides |
| 18:16.05 | bmomjian | lol |
| 18:16.15 | bmomjian | Seems there is a cdrom you can burn. |
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| 18:17.01 | jelly | more seriously I'd worry only if it happens again, and then apply the setpci tuneup from one of the links above |
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| 18:17.33 | bmomjian | ok |
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| 18:18.43 | bmomjian | the cdrom is newer than my server; server is 2011, cdrom is 2012 |
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| 18:19.45 | bmomjian | but that is just a driver cdrom; I assume it doesn't contain the new bios, but I can try. |
| 18:19.57 | jelly | did any apps notice the network issue? |
| 18:20.23 | bmomjian | nope, not that I can tell, and it all happened in the same second, the detect and reset |
| 18:20.36 | jelly | does your board not have booting from image via remote mgt? |
| 18:21.02 | jelly | I thought recent supermicros had decent IPMI remote management |
| 18:21.04 | bmomjian | It is this motherboard, still a good one: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DA3.cfm |
| 18:21.37 | bmomjian | I have an IPMI card in there but never used it |
| 18:21.52 | jelly | your bios says "2.1", the latest there says "2.1a", no changelog, no timestamp... |
| 18:22.08 | bmomjian | ah |
| 18:22.51 | bmomjian | where did you see 2.1a? |
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| 18:23.21 | bmomjian | ah, I see it |
| 18:23.26 | bmomjian | on the bios update page |
| 18:24.06 | jelly | hp has MUCH nicer support pages even if they mess up the URLs every 6 months |
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| 18:25.09 | bmomjian | ah, the readme says: b). Extract the files to a DOS bootable device (such as a bootable USB stick, or CD). |
| 18:25.11 | bmomjian | so I can use a cd |
| 18:25.23 | bmomjian | not sure how to do bootable usb |
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| 18:26.46 | bmomjian | yikes, I have to boot Windows to install this; I don't have a Windows partition on this box |
| 18:27.29 | jelly | grab a bootable freedos usb image from the internets somewhere |
| 18:27.52 | bmomjian | wow |
| 18:28.02 | bmomjian | and if I make a mistake, I am down. Not fun. |
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| 18:31.21 | rudi_s | Hi. I'm trying to boot the debian installer in qemu with serial only. In the past I'd see the isolinux prompt and then could boot via serial. But I no longer get a prompt. Has something changed in the installer? |
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| 18:45.02 | Pr0metheus | guys i am really confused, i boot bios from /dev/sda, it shows me grub menu to chose where to boot from and then it goes to the os of /dev/sdc , i reinstalled several times grub on /dev/sda, any idea what to do? |
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| 19:00.05 | Tech_William | Hello all |
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| 19:00.52 | wsky | hello |
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| 19:02.47 | tremon | Pr0metheus: what's the confusion? does it load the wrong os? |
| 19:03.18 | Pr0metheus | tremon it loads for /dev/sdc but i want it to load from /dev/sda |
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| 19:04.17 | tremon | that's not an answer to my question. does it load the right os? |
| 19:04.27 | Pr0metheus | tremon no |
| 19:04.58 | tremon | ok, does it show the correct grub menu? |
| 19:05.06 | Pr0metheus | yes |
| 19:05.24 | tremon | i mean, does grub show the same kernel versions that are in /boot of the right os? |
| 19:05.48 | tremon | what's the wrong os btw? two debian versions, or something else? |
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| 19:06.11 | shortCircuit__ | in vbox everytime I run booting from hard disk , the filesystem becomes read-only and I have to do mount -o remount,rw / |
| 19:06.12 | shortCircuit__ | why |
| 19:06.26 | Pr0metheus | i have two debian os, sda is a restored image of sdc, they have the same kernel version |
| 19:06.45 | Pr0metheus | i reiinstalled grub on sda |
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| 19:07.10 | tremon | oh. if it's a block copy, they also have the same uuid I guess |
| 19:07.20 | Pr0metheus | no with fsarchiver |
| 19:07.22 | tremon | check with lsblk /dev/sd[ac]* |
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| 19:08.35 | Pr0metheus | u are right, uuid is the same |
| 19:09.14 | tremon | so what happens is that grab loads the kernel with root=<UUID here> argument, and the kernel mounts the first filesystem it finds with the correct uuid |
| 19:09.30 | tremon | I believe you can change the uuid with tune2fs, let me check |
| 19:09.42 | Pr0metheus | thanks tremon for your help |
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| 19:10.42 | tremon | yes, you can change a uuid with tune2fs -U random /dev/sd... |
| 19:10.53 | Pr0metheus | thanks again |
| 19:11.41 | ritztech | anyone have a good Cloud based way to send data/healthcheck stats every 5min to a location. and then pull from another source . I was thinking AWS IoT or azure but not sure if theres something API quick/fast |
| 19:11.44 | tremon | you can either change the uuid on your new (sdc) partition but then you must change both fstab and grub config too, or they will still load the wrong os |
| 19:12.10 | tremon | or you can change the old (sda) partition, which will work fine until you ever need to boot into that os |
| 19:12.30 | tremon | please do check the uuids of other partitions you have too |
| 19:15.01 | Pr0metheus | tremon i get: tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda. Found a dos partition table in /dev/sda . I have formated it ext4 |
| 19:15.11 | tremon | no, /dev/sda is the entire disk |
| 19:15.23 | tremon | your partitions are /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc |
| 19:15.31 | Pr0metheus | ops yes |
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| 19:56.48 | mirak_ | hi |
| 19:57.13 | oswriter | hi there |
| 19:57.32 | mirak_ | I there a way with grub, to chainload core.efi the same way it's possible to chainload core.img with bios with multiboot command ? |
| 19:58.03 | oswriter | I don't know. Can't say that I'm much of a grub expert. |
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| 19:59.25 | mirak_ | I was doing in a menuentry {Â } something like "multiboot /@linux1/boot/grub/x86_64/core.img" |
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| 20:21.32 | tremon | mirak_: the docs (https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#General-boot-methods) are less than helpful imho. best to ask in #grub I think |
| 20:21.59 | mirak_ | tremon, i asked there first, but it's dead |
| 20:22.53 | mirak_ | tremon, I already went on this page, it doesn't talk about core.efi at all |
| 20:22.58 | mirak_ | it's difficuylt to find |
| 20:24.20 | mirak_ | I now it's possible to just load another grub.cfg with configfile, but if grub binaries changes you can have issues, I already had with lvm |
| 20:25.24 | mirak_ | but i think chainloader option should work, since it is what is used to load windows |
| 20:25.47 | tremon | I think it should |
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| 20:26.04 | tremon | but chainloader expects to boot from a partition, right? |
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| 20:26.38 | exezin | Alright, so my buddy managed to get stretch installed and running |
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| 20:26.51 | exezin | one issue, there's no option for the correct resoultion (which should be 1920x1080) |
| 20:26.52 | pac_pc | hello o/ |
| 20:26.53 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 20:26.53 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:26.58 | missmbob | exezin: ^^ |
| 20:27.04 | exezin | oh |
| 20:27.05 | exezin | well I mean |
| 20:27.09 | exezin | this is just a general issue, but ok |
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| 20:27.28 | exezin | (it's been an issue on ubuntu, and lubuntu) |
| 20:28.04 | exezin | (It's nothing specific to unstable) |
| 20:28.11 | BillK[GR] | exezin, did he install gpu's drivers? |
| 20:28.19 | exezin | He's on intel hd 530 |
| 20:28.34 | exezin | What would he even need to install? |
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| 20:29.00 | exezin | Last time we tried to get drivers installed it essentially bricked the system |
| 20:29.07 | exezin | started booting to a black screen with no tty or anything |
| 20:29.18 | tremon | mirak_: in "supported boot targets" on that page, it says that chainloading efi bootloaders is supported |
| 20:29.41 | mirak_ | tremon, yes |
| 20:30.14 | mirak_ | tremon, but that doesn't explain the difference between grub.efi or core.efi , but i will manage to make something work |
| 20:30.50 | tremon | have you tried simply doing "chainloader /path/to/core.efi"? |
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| 20:31.19 | BillK[GR] | exezin, what the max resolution that he can apply? |
| 20:31.32 | exezin | Appears to be 1024x768 |
| 20:31.36 | exezin | xrandr output -> http://kopy.io/MTD2G |
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| 20:35.30 | exezin | lspci -v | grep VGA -> http://kopy.io/Z1Mvg |
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| 20:36.23 | BillK[GR] | exezin, maybe try "xrandr --addmode DP-1 1920x1080" |
| 20:36.39 | exezin | worth a shot |
| 20:36.53 | tremon | exezin: have you read http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-SKL-Prelim-Support? |
| 20:37.05 | pac_pc | any xorg config based solution? |
| 20:37.19 | exezin | tremon: Uh, what am I meant to be looking at? |
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| 20:38.12 | tremon | apparently you need a kernel cmdline option to enable support for the newest intel chipsets |
| 20:38.28 | exezin | tremon: oh really? |
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| 20:38.36 | tremon | that's what it says |
| 20:38.37 | exezin | Do you happen to know what that is/how to add it? |
| 20:38.44 | exezin | That link you gave doesnt take me anywhere |
| 20:38.49 | exezin | just to what appears to be the home page |
| 20:39.13 | tremon | argh. remove the trailing ? from the link |
| 20:39.23 | exezin | Ah sorry |
| 20:39.42 | bipul | I have umask 0002 and i am log in as bipul, and i created a file say file, which has permission, -rw-rw-r-- 1 bipul bipul file, Now i set ACL permission setfacl -m m::6, Now when i am trying to change the group owner permission with chmod 744 file, then i suppose i am updating the mask value as 4 , and there will be no changes in group owner permission. it is true? |
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| 20:40.07 | exezin | tremon: He is on stretch though, which is kernel 4.6 iirc, does this still apply? |
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| 20:40.45 | tremon | don't know. stretch support is in #debian-next, and I have no intel gfx here to test |
| 20:41.04 | exezin | alright |
| 20:41.05 | tremon | the article is a year old, but it can't hurt to try |
| 20:41.56 | jelly | and #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net not here |
| 20:42.00 | tremon | it does match your problem description: "You'll get a low resolution display and fall-back to the LLVMpipe Gallium3D driver." |
| 20:42.51 | stoned | bipul: http://kmaiti.blogspot.com/2011/09/acl-and-mask-in-linux.html |
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| 20:43.08 | exezin | tremon: yeah, we'll give it a shot and see what happens |
| 20:43.15 | exezin | Can't hurt at this point, we've been trying for two weeks |
| 20:44.54 | BillK[GR] | exezin, after two weeks I would have certainly trashes the installation...! Your friend is either very patient or not knowledgable enough :P |
| 20:45.25 | exezin | We've tried about 4 or so different distros |
| 20:45.29 | exezin | spanning various kernel versions |
| 20:45.38 | pac_pc | both I guess :P |
| 20:45.40 | exezin | tried installing drivers, adding custom modes with xrandr, editing xorg.conf |
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| 20:45.42 | exezin | etc etc |
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| 20:45.45 | redabhr | hello |
| 20:45.51 | exezin | Thus far, nothing has worked |
| 20:46.02 | tremon | you may also need a firmware package (firmware-linux-free probably, not sure) |
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| 20:46.12 | redabhr | i have a high disk activity without any real usage |
| 20:46.14 | exezin | tremon: We'll also try that ^^ |
| 20:46.53 | wsky | redabhr: are you using kde?> |
| 20:47.22 | redabhr | no |
| 20:47.27 | redabhr | gnome |
| 20:47.39 | redabhr | i launched iotop |
| 20:47.45 | redabhr | i see jdb2/sda2-8 99% |
| 20:47.52 | wsky | i'm asking cause nepomuk is known for taking up resources with indexing |
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| 20:48.23 | redabhr | 99.99% IO and 0.00 B/s in read and write |
| 20:48.27 | exezin | http://kopy.io/BtZyv |
| 20:48.34 | exezin | Trying to install firmware-linux-free results in that |
| 20:48.43 | wsky | well look into iotop and see what's working |
| 20:48.55 | wsky | redabhr^ |
| 20:48.56 | tremon | exezin: apparently it's firmware-misc-nonfree: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-misc-nonfree |
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| 20:49.12 | exezin | Righto, will also install that. Thanks |
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| 20:49.35 | tremon | you'll need to enable the non-free repository for that, if you don't have it yet |
| 20:49.52 | pac_pc | ah |
| 20:50.02 | exezin | tremon: ah of course, thanks |
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| 20:51.35 | redabhr | i have [jdb2/sda2-8] taht have [99.99%] wsky |
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| 20:52.14 | wsky | redabhr: ok but which process is taking it up |
| 20:52.56 | redabhr | you want that i kill the process ? |
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| 20:53.11 | tremon | jdb2 is a kernel thread, best not try to kill it |
| 20:53.16 | wsky | i want you to find out which process is causing that |
| 20:53.18 | tremon | jbd2 that is |
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| 20:57.04 | redabhr | i have just that https://s10.postimg.org/mr6kzlgo9/capt.png |
| 20:57.55 | tremon | redabhr: this happens after a reboot too? |
| 20:58.07 | redabhr | yep always |
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| 20:58.21 | redabhr | and sometimes system freeze |
| 20:58.26 | jelly | skylake & newer need firmware for intel gpu don't they |
| 20:58.45 | tremon | redabhr: when's the last time you ran a full fsck (with -f) ? |
| 20:58.55 | exezin | alright, added both of those packages and that kernel option |
| 20:58.57 | exezin | still no luck |
| 20:59.20 | exezin | http://kopy.io/a4cZB |
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| 21:00.06 | tremon | exezin: maybe take it to #drm, gfx developers there |
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| 21:00.53 | redabhr | tremon, 3 hours ago but without -f |
| 21:02.47 | exezin | tremon: that on freenode? |
| 21:03.06 | tremon | exezin: I thought it was, yes |
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| 21:03.21 | exezin | hm, apparently not |
| 21:03.22 | tremon | oh probably it's #dri |
| 21:03.26 | exezin | oh ok |
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| 21:03.53 | exezin | hm, maybe not |
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| 21:04.00 | exezin | handful of users and no topic? |
| 21:04.22 | tremon | yes should be #dri: https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/IRC/ |
| 21:04.42 | exezin | oh alright, I'll give it a shot |
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| 21:06.21 | exezin | This is getting old |
| 21:06.30 | exezin | windows is starting to look like the only option :/ |
| 21:06.38 | tremon | redabhr: please do retry with -f, to rule out any filesystem corruption |
| 21:07.25 | tremon | jbd2 should not be doing anything on its own, there should be another process creating I/O for jbd2 to process |
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| 21:09.15 | redabhr | okay |
| 21:09.24 | redabhr | after fsck -f |
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| 21:09.51 | tremon | maybe install atop, run as root and press 'd' to view all disk activity by process |
| 21:09.54 | redabhr | how to know the process that create I/O for jbd2 ? |
| 21:10.00 | redabhr | emm ok |
| 21:10.04 | redabhr | i'll try that |
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| 21:10.27 | tremon | I'm not familiar with iotop, it should be able to show the same |
| 21:10.46 | tremon | next would be to really do performance tracing with sysstat and sar |
| 21:11.23 | tremon | but I've only ever used that once, I can only point you in the general direction, then you're pretty much on your own :) |
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| 21:15.22 | tremon | btw I presume you've already checked in dmesg, no journal messages logged there? |
| 21:16.15 | redabhr | emm a process called rsyslogd |
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| 21:17.33 | tremon | lol. that's the log system. do a tail -f /var/log/* and see which file is overactive |
| 21:18.15 | redabhr | okii :D |
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| 21:21.17 | redabhr | i have lot of something like that Aug 20 22:20:23 h2o kernel: [20878.828109] jbd2/sda2-8(111): WRITE block 8857712 on sda2 (8 sectors) .... |
| 21:21.20 | redabhr | somethings* |
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| 21:22.04 | jelly | redabhr, you enabled /proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
| 21:22.52 | jelly | it's amusing how debugging what uses the disk... can generate a lot more usage of disk |
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| 21:23.21 | jelly | disable it by setting back to 0 |
| 21:25.11 | tremon | so... the disk activity was caused by jdb2 logging its own disk activity logging its own disk activity logging its own disk activity? |
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| 21:26.50 | tremon | it's even explicitly mentioned here: https://lxadm.com/Simple_filesystem_read/write_tracing_with_/proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
| 21:27.00 | tremon | "Note that it will cause massive output in dmesg, so consider stopping syslog." |
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| 21:28.21 | jelly | or set the log destination to somewhere other than local disk |
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| 21:28.57 | tremon | true |
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| 21:29.53 | redabhr | oki i will try to fix that |
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| 21:30.08 | wsky | hm that's the first time i've ran atop |
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| 21:32.41 | redabhr | jelly i do echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
| 21:32.42 | redabhr | to disable it ? |
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| 21:33.28 | jelly | yes |
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| 21:34.08 | jelly | or `sysctl -w vm.block_dump=0` |
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| 21:34.14 | daveyjonesy | This might be a bit of a weird question, I've been using debian for a while now but I don't feel like I am learning anything. I end up having to follow guides for pretty much every installation and configuration. I mean, how do you learn to install programs without reading through the documentation line by line figuring out how to install. It seems |
| 21:34.15 | daveyjonesy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:34.41 | daveyjonesy | How did you all become competent? |
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| 21:35.32 | jelly | daveyjonesy, don't follow guides, read the actual documentation |
| 21:36.33 | daveyjonesy | jelly, ok I'll avoid guides in future. Any other tips? I'm just struggling a bit... |
| 21:36.46 | daveyjonesy | I just feel like everything is so convoluted |
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| 21:38.15 | jelly | that's because it is. Maybe you need to learn some OS basics. |
| 21:38.42 | tremon | daveyjonesy: maybe it is. there may also be a reason for it (or not). what feels convoluted to you? |
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| 21:38.55 | andrew_____ | Hi all. I'm trying to set up Deluge on Debian, but having trouble with systemctl and/or config. Deluge does not work after a reboot, although 'systemctl status deluged' shows it as "active (running)." Any pointers on where to look? I can post a link to the related documentation if I'm allowed. |
| 21:39.07 | jelly | maybe realize linux distros are actually a thousand different pieces of software stuck together with spit and baling wire |
| 21:39.08 | daveyjonesy | Perhaps I do need to go back to the basics |
| 21:39.18 | jez9999 | daveyjonesy: if you don't want convoluted, use windows 10. but microsoft will own your PC. :-) |
| 21:39.30 | wsky | andrew_____: it's probablu running a headless part of the application |
| 21:39.33 | tremon | please be aware though that debian (more than any other distro) is a toolset, not a finished product |
| 21:39.34 | wsky | probably* |
| 21:39.44 | wsky | andrew_____: a so called "deamon" |
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| 21:39.58 | daveyjonesy | I do use Windows as well, but I'm using debian for server related functions |
| 21:40.01 | wsky | the part without the user interface |
| 21:40.08 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: what's so hard about installing debian? |
| 21:40.17 | jez9999 | daveyjonesy: oh and they will reboot when THEY want :-) |
| 21:40.19 | daveyjonesy | pingfloyd, nothing |
| 21:40.33 | petn-randall | tremon: That's, like, your opinion, man. |
| 21:41.05 | jelly | petn-randall, the polite thing is to call it a "platform" |
| 21:41.17 | daveyjonesy | I just found the process for installing sonarr/couchpotato/plex/samba/etc. tedious, each program needing to be installed in different ways and configured to autorun differently |
| 21:41.24 | pingfloyd | tremon: it's a finished product |
| 21:41.27 | andrew_____ | Right, that's the intended outcome. A headless server. How should I configure it then, to allow it to work appropriately? Remove the "-d" in ExecStart? |
| 21:41.40 | pingfloyd | tremon: finished more than many other distros since they actually test things well |
| 21:41.47 | andrew_____ | And thanks for your prompt response, wsky! |
| 21:41.59 | jelly | daveyjonesy, sounds about right, esp. when you're dealing with apps not present in the distro at all |
| 21:42.24 | wsky | andrew_____: if the daemon process runs it does work appropriately |
| 21:42.40 | wsky | andrew_____: it's just the user interface that does not get fired |
| 21:43.15 | wsky | andrew_____: and i'd rather not remove the -d option from your systemd config file since it wont be able to work at all because being unable to connect to Xorg |
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| 21:43.21 | tremon | daveyjonesy: debian does have a standard process for installing software, and that works fine for the 20,000 packages prepared by debian itself. It even allows for easy extensibility by third-party vendors |
| 21:43.28 | jelly | daveyjonesy, 5 years from now, samba setup will probably look similar and you'll have your notes for that, but there will be three other new components to deal with |
| 21:43.29 | andrew_____ | Sorry, I should provide some more information. I'm connected to the Debian server via putty. I don't intend to use the GUI at all. |
| 21:43.55 | wsky | andrew_____: what you might want to do is adding a shortcut to the binary during your DE startu[p |
| 21:44.12 | wsky | andrew_____: ok then you probably want just the web ui |
| 21:44.43 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: debconf takes care of the bulk of configuration |
| 21:44.48 | wsky | andrew_____: if deluge is configured to provide it (because it has such feature) then you should be abale to view it with netstat -lpn |
| 21:45.04 | wsky | i mean the port and address it's listening at |
| 21:45.31 | wsky | then you typically would want to use your webbrowser from that point |
| 21:45.38 | TomTomTo1 | tremon: 56,864 :P |
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| 21:46.29 | daveyjonesy | tremon, pingfloyd - I agree |
| 21:46.31 | andrew_____ | Right, I did have deluge-web set up as well. But I cannot connect to the server itself using the Deluge client either, and therefore the web UI doesn't work either. I'm sure it's something simple I'm missing in the config. |
| 21:46.43 | andrew_____ | Here's the documentation I followed: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd |
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| 21:47.15 | wsky | andrew_____: well i'm a rtorrent guy so i'm not that sure but best look into the app documentation or contact their support |
| 21:47.31 | andrew_____ | I had it working perfectly on my Raspberry Pi running Raspbian, but it used init.d scripts which is now obsolete. Systemctl is proving tricky. |
| 21:47.47 | jez9999 | Is there a command to list the ciphers currently enabled in sshd? |
| 21:47.47 | wsky | andrew_____: you didn't provide not much information too |
| 21:47.56 | wsky | you just said "web ui does not work", andrew_____ |
| 21:47.56 | daveyjonesy | The issue that andrew_____ is experiencing is kinda what I mean |
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| 21:48.23 | wsky | possibly it's running on a non-standard ip port? |
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| 21:49.04 | wsky | have a look at netstat -lpn and see what ports and addresses are being used by the deluge server |
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| 21:49.54 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: have you seen configure-debian? |
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| 21:50.49 | daveyjonesy | pingfloyd: I've seen the commands before, but never really understood them |
| 21:51.57 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: apt-cache show configure-debian |
| 21:52.15 | andrew_____ | Sorry, to clarify: I didn't originally say/mean the web UI is not working. It's not, but that's second to the server itself not working. Deluge allows you to connect to it with either the client software, or the web UI if it's set up. Neither are working, but I'd like to get the client software connecting to the server, I should be able to figure out the web UI portion thereafter. I will get you a netstat output in a minute. |
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| 21:55.10 | andrew_____ | http://pastebin.com/yt68gtx2 |
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| 21:55.43 | andrew_____ | The port should be 58846. Interestingly, python seems to be using it... |
| 21:56.05 | pingfloyd | andrew_____: did you run the netstat command with root privs? |
| 21:56.12 | andrew_____ | Yes |
| 21:56.13 | wsky | andrew_____: deluge is a python application. |
| 21:56.27 | jelly | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:58846 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 504/python |
| 21:56.38 | wsky | andrew_____: and since python is a scripting language it's the interpreter process who initiates it |
| 21:56.39 | andrew_____ | Fair enough. It just seems odd it's labelled as such, instead of 'deluged' |
| 21:56.54 | wsky | andrew_____: ok, are the ports open in your firewall |
| 21:57.28 | jelly | andrew_____, your app seems to be configured to bind to the localhost (127.0.0.1) ip only by default |
| 21:57.30 | wsky | andrew_____: you can post iptables -L on another pastebin |
| 21:57.48 | jelly | so it's only visible from that host itself at this time |
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| 21:58.29 | jelly | reconfigure it to listen on an address you can access with the client |
| 21:58.57 | andrew_____ | It's running locally in my network. The Deluge client software is running on a Windows 7 machine. In fact, both those machines are running on an ESXi server - all on the same network. No firewall restrictions. |
| 21:59.02 | wsky | jelly: i see it listens both on internal and external ports |
| 21:59.25 | jelly | wsky, where do you see that? |
| 21:59.30 | andrew_____ | iptables output http://pastebin.com/PM1Y7i6i |
| 21:59.33 | wsky | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:59862 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 504/python |
| 21:59.34 | jelly | only one line for :58846 |
| 21:59.36 | wsky | for instance here |
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| 21:59.55 | missmbob | andrew_____: preferences->daemon->allow remote connections |
| 21:59.58 | wsky | jelly: those ports are randomized for each interface |
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| 22:00.09 | wsky | jelly: it's a bit torrent incomming port |
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| 22:00.20 | wsky | it can be set to be solid |
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| 22:00.33 | daveyjonesy | pingfloyd: I'm still not sure what it is you're showing me :/ |
| 22:00.35 | wsky | but aparently andrew_____ chose a random port pool |
| 22:00.36 | jelly | wsky, but andrew needs to access the web gui |
| 22:00.48 | wsky | yes but the port you mentioned is not for that |
| 22:00.55 | jelly | bt incoming is not useful for that |
| 22:00.57 | andrew_____ | Well, the client interface for now. I'll work on the web GUI later. It's likely the same fix. |
| 22:01.02 | wsky | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:4433 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 504/python |
| 22:01.07 | wsky | this probably will be it |
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| 22:01.24 | jelly | <andrew_____> The port should be 58846. Interestingly, python seems to be using it... |
| 22:01.26 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: what I'm driving at is if you master understanding of debconf, configuration will become much less tedious |
| 22:01.30 | missmbob | andrew_____: you need to do what i said |
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| 22:01.42 | wsky | andrew_____: what happens when you connect to 192.168.1.102:4433 with your webbrowser |
| 22:01.59 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: configure-debian will take the guess work out of what you can and can't run dpkg-reconfigure on |
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| 22:02.04 | missmbob | where the hell do you get 4433 from? deluge webui uses 8112 default and gtk 58846 |
| 22:02.13 | andrew_____ | To add: if I run deluged once logged in, it works fine (both client software and web GUI). However, my understanding is that it runs as a process under the logged in user, as opposed to a system service when started with startup (systemd/systemctl?). |
| 22:02.43 | daveyjonesy | pingfloyd: Hmmn, Ok I'll do some research :) |
| 22:02.46 | daveyjonesy | Thanks |
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| 22:03.05 | andrew_____ | "The connection was reset" on Firefox |
| 22:03.09 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: then whatever the debconf for said package doesn't cover, you just need to a do a little manual fine tuning from there to configuration files. |
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| 22:03.36 | jelly | pingfloyd, that still won't help with third party stuff unless it has excellent packaging |
| 22:03.44 | pingfloyd | daveyjonesy: i.e., minimizing micro management of configuration |
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| 22:03.47 | pingfloyd | jelly: I know |
| 22:03.58 | pingfloyd | jelly: but third party should be a last resort anyway |
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| 22:04.07 | jelly | pingfloyd, 3 out of 4 things he mentioned was out of distro stuff |
| 22:04.09 | pingfloyd | debian can't do much about their quality or lack of |
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| 22:05.11 | jelly | [21:41:17] <daveyjonesy> I just found the process for installing sonarr/couchpotato/plex/samba/etc. tedious, each program needing to be installed in different ways and configured to autorun differently |
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| 22:09.40 | andrew_____ | I'm gonna head out. Will look into this later. Thanks for your help, wsky and jelly (and others if I missed)! |
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| 22:11.25 | pingfloyd | it's kind of a given that integration becomes the user's job once they have to go outside of a dist. There's not much way around that unless the third-party did a good job with their package. |
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| 22:43.06 | pron | is there anyone who uses linux desktop and a lot of ssh to a lot of hosts? |
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| 22:49.56 | brizz_ | ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX AN ISSUE WITH CAPS LOCK BEING STUCK ON? ITS NOT ON MY ACTUAL KEYBOARD ... LOL |
| 22:50.14 | pron | ;< |
| 22:51.22 | brizz_ | can hold down shift and it will go lowercase |
| 22:51.31 | pron | =) |
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| 22:58.10 | erm3nda | pron, well, define lot of |
| 22:58.23 | erm3nda | you meant lot of different hosts or lot of ssh connections? |
| 22:58.43 | erm3nda | btw, what's the final question about it |
| 22:58.48 | pron | erm3nda: 100-200++ |
| 22:59.12 | erm3nda | do u have problem? |
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| 22:59.15 | pron | erm3nda: i am thinjing about to move from mac desktop to linux for work |
| 22:59.26 | pron | i used securecrt on win years ago |
| 22:59.30 | pron | and iterm2 on mac now |
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| 22:59.49 | erm3nda | im not getting the point of your question |
| 22:59.54 | pron | i am sturggling to find software on linux where u can "manage" lots of ssh hosts effectively |
| 23:00.04 | endersending | anyone ran debian on a sparc sunfire? |
| 23:00.05 | erm3nda | ohh, understood |
| 23:00.11 | pron | like press shortcut and it pens list of saved hosts |
| 23:00.24 | pron | you type in search |
| 23:00.24 | endersending | solaris sucks, freebsd and zfs is crashing, and ive been looking into gentoo or debian |
| 23:00.30 | pron | and press enter |
| 23:00.36 | pron | and it opens that stuff in new tab |
| 23:00.49 | wsky | pron: you can send the same command to a host list with ssh |
| 23:00.52 | pron | atm i am able to do that in metter of few seconds |
| 23:00.56 | wsky | you can also bash script |
| 23:00.57 | erm3nda | did u know tmux? |
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| 23:01.16 | pron | wsky: what do you mean |
| 23:01.16 | erm3nda | wsky, btw, bash or any other script is able to manage your shh connections :_) |
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| 23:01.50 | endersending | anyone in here ran debian on a sparc? |
| 23:01.51 | pron | wsky: i dont need paralel execution |
| 23:01.54 | pron | thats difrent stuff |
| 23:01.56 | pron | :P |
| 23:01.57 | erm3nda | pron, to do your own script |
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| 23:02.39 | wsky | pron: so you possibly want a simple script readingg the host list from a config file and making a simple text menu list |
| 23:03.02 | pron | amm |
| 23:03.05 | erm3nda | then open a new spawned term on each option you choose |
| 23:03.06 | pron | no |
| 23:03.08 | pron | :( |
| 23:03.20 | erm3nda | tmux is kinda complex, but allow also syncing comand, send 1 command to many terms |
| 23:03.29 | pron | tmux is difrent stuff |
| 23:03.43 | erm3nda | why? |
| 23:03.56 | erm3nda | it's a terminal allowing you to open many other commands, a new term included |
| 23:04.05 | pron | ahm |
| 23:04.07 | LtL | pron: stop hitting enter and explain in entirety what you want to do |
| 23:04.09 | pron | i do use tmux |
| 23:04.16 | pron | i already did |
| 23:04.19 | wsky | pron: you also can use putty on linux .. |
| 23:04.30 | erm3nda | putty and superputty is not the same |
| 23:04.38 | pron | putty is unusable with more then few hosts |
| 23:05.21 | wsky | pron: so what you actually want to achieve |
| 23:05.25 | erm3nda | tmux does multiplex too, so you don't need a new connection on every new spawned term |
| 23:05.40 | erm3nda | wsky, look the tools him have used on the past |
| 23:05.45 | pron | wsky: il try to find a video @ youtube or smth |
| 23:05.47 | pron | :-) |
| 23:05.58 | pron | if u havent used that u propably dont understand the struggle |
| 23:06.29 | erm3nda | pron, sincerely i suggest you to do a bash/python script with what you need |
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| 23:06.48 | pron | in that case i will keeo using osx |
| 23:06.50 | pron | :/ |
| 23:07.08 | erm3nda | well, look into alternative.to webpage to find out what's similar |
| 23:07.13 | erm3nda | then come back |
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| 23:08.02 | pron | i gogled around , even installed some linux desktop disto :P got frustrated googled abit more |
| 23:08.11 | pron | and ended asking around in random channels in irc |
| 23:08.44 | pron | this is how it looks in secure crt https://forums.vandyke.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1063&d=1409093619 |
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| 23:09.40 | endersending | anyone? debian on a ultrasparc III? |
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| 23:10.13 | pron | this is how it looks @ iterm2 https://www.iterm2.com/img/screenshots/profiles1_full.png, i just put needed ssh stuff in profile |
| 23:10.14 | dvs | endersending, why don't you ask your actual question |
| 23:10.19 | pron | and pure happiness |
| 23:10.37 | missmbob | pron: securecrt does run on linux with wine if you're in love with that |
| 23:10.53 | pron | huh in love? |
| 23:11.15 | pron | how one can fall in love with peace of proprietary code?;/ |
| 23:11.53 | pron | to make it clear i am not lookin for workarounds i am searching if there is working opensource software already |
| 23:11.55 | pron | ;=) |
| 23:12.20 | pron | cause i cant belive there isnt |
| 23:12.23 | pron | there is pac :=) |
| 23:12.35 | pron | but it is unusable for work cause eats up screen space |
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| 23:15.18 | wsky | so you want something like spotlight but for linux |
| 23:17.10 | Strykar | judd: checkbackport smokeping |
| 23:17.18 | judd | Backporting package smokeping in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
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| 23:18.16 | Strykar | dpkg: strongswan |
| 23:18.16 | dpkg | strongSwan is an <IPsec> implementation for Linux kernels, forked from <freeswan>. As Debian stock kernels have IPsec (NETKEY, aka 26sec) and crypto support enabled, the openswan-modules-source or linux-patch-openswan packages are only necessary for KLIPS use. See also /usr/share/doc/strongswan/README.Debian.gz. http://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/Start http://www.strongswan.org/ #strongswan on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:18.23 | Strykar | dpkg: smokeping |
| 23:18.24 | dpkg | wish i knew, Strykar |
| 23:18.30 | wsky | pron: gnome 3 and unity might provide such functionality, however i'm a mate user by myself so i'm unsure |
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| 23:19.06 | pron | i installed mate too, looks like my eyes bleed less looking at mate then other stuff |
| 23:19.16 | pron | fonts and idk other stuff |
| 23:19.25 | wsky | well but you wont get the latest cutting edge desktop ideas with mate |
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| 23:19.45 | pron | i work with about 3 apps |
| 23:19.45 | wsky | it's aming at a classic,gnome 2 desktop experience |
| 23:20.00 | pron | browser, ssh , mail |
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| 23:20.18 | wsky | yeah but it does not index such content as terminal profiles or even basically anything |
| 23:20.19 | pron | especialy ssh , has to be usable for work ;< |
| 23:20.34 | pron | ah well it doesnt have to index, i dont mind adding it manualy |
| 23:20.36 | wsky | try gnome 3 maybe with the gnome 3 terminal |
| 23:21.08 | pron | in terminal i see profiles, i can configure them and i even can open in new terminal |
| 23:21.08 | wsky | well mate terminal has profiles support |
| 23:21.16 | pron | !! |
| 23:21.16 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 23:21.59 | pron | but i cant figure out how to quickly get a profile list from wich i could search tru and open it with simple pressing enter |
| 23:22.17 | pron | wi will lur around more ofc |
| 23:22.22 | wsky | right click |
| 23:22.27 | wsky | the profiles menu entry |
| 23:22.28 | wsky | there |
| 23:22.38 | pron | and then pops 200+ items long list |
| 23:22.40 | pron | :D |
| 23:22.51 | wsky | then you need something else than mate |
| 23:23.06 | pron | thats i am trying to figure out :P |
| 23:23.22 | pron | i still cant belive that noone has written that stuff |
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| 23:23.24 | pron | on linux |
| 23:23.39 | wsky | probably gnome 3 will work for you, possibly kde4 as well |
| 23:23.49 | wsky | unity would probably ddo as well |
| 23:24.00 | pron | its temrinal emulatrs job |
| 23:24.06 | pron | not desktop enviroments |
| 23:24.09 | pron | imo |
| 23:24.11 | wsky | not entirely |
| 23:24.28 | wsky | modern linux des integrate indexing functionality with many apps of their own |
| 23:24.39 | wsky | so you get something like spotlight on linux |
| 23:24.41 | pron | well its not indexing |
| 23:24.43 | pron | issue |
| 23:24.50 | pron | it susability |
| 23:24.54 | wsky | ... |
| 23:24.55 | wsky | dude |
| 23:25.03 | pron | i mean termianls have implemented profiles almost all of them |
| 23:25.03 | wsky | so when you got profiles indexed |
| 23:25.08 | wsky | .. ... |
| 23:25.22 | wsky | you can, like, use the main search menu to search throught htem |
| 23:25.23 | pron | ther eis no convinient way how to access them |
| 23:25.40 | wsky | ok i take this as a trolling attempt from now on, bbl |
| 23:25.46 | pron | lol |
| 23:26.20 | pron | ofc people with difrent opinions must be trolls |
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| 23:27.14 | Pr0metheus | anyone knows if searches through nautilus include file contents? |
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| 23:28.29 | cra1g321 | Pr0metheus, i would say likely not |
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| 23:29.39 | Pr0metheus | gnome tracker has an option for indexing also file contents but i can't figure how u search inside file contents |
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| 23:32.10 | wsky | pron: your logic seems to be: "i want something but it's not here so what now" |
| 23:33.03 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: anyting in apticular you want to search for? Have you tried grep (for text files) |
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| 23:33.44 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: note I'm suggesting tools you can use to search for contents in files, unsure about fancy plugins to allow this in nautlius |
| 23:34.01 | erm3nda | pron, who can love who you wants, but take care on who you marry :-) |
| 23:34.36 | Pr0metheus | somiaj yeah i have lots of pdf and text documents that i'd like to be able to search their content, but i'd like the search tool to use the indexing service not start from scratch everytime |
| 23:34.39 | erm3nda | you can love anybody you like to, but care with the one you marry on :-) |
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| 23:34.47 | erm3nda | my english is pure shit |
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| 23:35.32 | pron | :D |
| 23:35.34 | pron | same here |
| 23:36.25 | pron | wsky: its more like , i havent found one - and i am sad about that |
| 23:36.41 | pron | as i told i have done some search before i came here |
| 23:36.57 | wsky | pron: it's GNU/Linux, most of the software you can run on it is entirely FREE |
| 23:36.59 | erm3nda | pron, do you see http://alternativeto.net/software/pac-manager/? |
| 23:37.07 | pron | and tought maybe someone can point me to something i havent seen if, now well then its not there |
| 23:37.09 | wsky | pron: what stops you from trying it out by yourself |
| 23:37.22 | pron | trying out what? |
| 23:37.33 | wsky | other des and terminals, for instance |
| 23:37.48 | pron | i have instaled some |
| 23:37.50 | pron | ;=) |
| 23:38.08 | wsky | how about writing a simple bash script which will grepo throught a text file with the hosts |
| 23:38.17 | wsky | it's really half an hour of work |
| 23:38.22 | wsky | (approximetly) |
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| 23:39.03 | erm3nda | pron, try pac-manager before ask :V |
| 23:39.12 | pron | erm3nda: i have installed it :P |
| 23:39.23 | erm3nda | it's not good enough :( ??? |
| 23:39.24 | pron | it is bad |
| 23:39.26 | pron | :/ |
| 23:39.32 | erm3nda | what does it lack ? |
| 23:39.34 | pron | my coworker struggles with it |
| 23:39.42 | erm3nda | then fix coworkers |
| 23:39.48 | pron | ;=) |
| 23:39.51 | wsky | (a hammer could do) |
| 23:39.55 | pron | hh |
| 23:39.57 | erm3nda | print that log then show them |
| 23:40.07 | erm3nda | hammer does work better wich computers |
| 23:40.10 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=25114?f=42&t=25114 -- look at the responses from 'altair4', seems you can use and then use scripts with natulius to search contents of files. |
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| 23:40.11 | pron | it is easier to not use linux desktop ;P |
| 23:40.16 | erm3nda | with computers |
| 23:40.22 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: unsure on the exact details but that may work. |
| 23:40.51 | wsky | pron: no one forces oyu to |
| 23:41.08 | erm3nda | even more funny, it is not him, it's his friend :-D |
| 23:41.21 | pron | no i want to change to lunix for |
| 23:41.24 | pron | emm last 10 y |
| 23:41.26 | pron | ;=) |
| 23:41.42 | pron | i mean desktop |
| 23:41.46 | erm3nda | i've moved to Linux time ago |
| 23:41.54 | erm3nda | was a pain but it's worth |
| 23:42.02 | pron | i moved to osx |
| 23:42.06 | pron | wasnt pain |
| 23:42.08 | pron | ;< |
| 23:42.13 | wsky | Linux is great if you know how to use it |
| 23:42.16 | erm3nda | cuz u didn't what i did on Linux |
| 23:42.20 | erm3nda | even if both are unix |
| 23:42.24 | pron | wsky: desktop has to work out of the box |
| 23:42.25 | erm3nda | was a pain for "my need" |
| 23:42.28 | erm3nda | a browser has no needs |
| 23:42.30 | pron | if it doesnt its not there yet |
| 23:42.35 | pron | that is my opninion |
| 23:42.39 | wsky | pron: that's Linux for masses |
| 23:43.16 | wsky | individuals like us can find their way to it |
| 23:43.21 | pron | well |
| 23:43.30 | pron | some individuals want to do work ;D |
| 23:43.34 | wsky | but an average john smith wont make through it |
| 23:43.44 | pron | and not spend weeks on knobs to mae stuff usable :P |
| 23:44.05 | wsky | try gnome shell out, set up a vm and try it out |
| 23:44.24 | wsky | i'm unsure will it do what you want but there is a huge probabbility it will |
| 23:44.37 | pron | amm its ubuntu only? |
| 23:44.38 | wsky | i don't use other des since i'm good with mate |
| 23:44.45 | pron | or emm i put it difrently |
| 23:44.49 | wsky | no, gnome 3 runs on debian |
| 23:44.50 | pron | does ot run on mint? |
| 23:44.56 | wsky | it does run on mint. |
| 23:45.03 | Pr0metheus | somiaj "gnome-search-tool : ... It doesn't require any indexation tool, and as such is lightweight but slow.", thanks for searching though |
| 23:45.05 | erm3nda | wsky, its main requirement seems to use/open/export/import bunch of network ssh connections/passwords |
| 23:45.28 | wsky | erm3nda: well he seems to have a comfortable access to a larger database of hosts |
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| 23:45.50 | pron | amm thats not temrinal emulator |
| 23:45.58 | erm3nda | he's hacking #debian users at once |
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| 23:46.14 | wsky | thinks pron is polish |
| 23:46.19 | pron | wsky: i also need in some cases personalised terminal settings |
| 23:46.26 | pron | for some switches |
| 23:46.28 | pron | etc |
| 23:46.34 | pron | i am not polish |
| 23:46.40 | erm3nda | police? |
| 23:46.45 | erm3nda | sounds similar ... :V |
| 23:46.49 | pron | :< |
| 23:47.00 | pron | hey u dont have to be that much offensive |
| 23:47.01 | wsky | you sound polish a bit |
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| 23:47.07 | pron | why ? |
| 23:47.09 | wsky | and erm3nda sounds russian |
| 23:47.20 | wsky | pron: i hang out on irc for around 8 years now |
| 23:47.26 | pron | those cocky native english speakers? |
| 23:47.28 | erm3nda | ha ha ha im russianokovic |
| 23:47.35 | wsky | ah so slav |
| 23:47.37 | pron | wsky: i hang out in irc 15+ y |
| 23:47.44 | pron | :< |
| 23:47.55 | wsky | that's, like, 7 years more than me |
| 23:47.59 | erm3nda | for the sake of that... im spanish and my english sucks. If you found it something like native ur not soo good at |
| 23:48.10 | pron | i can speak russian tho |
| 23:48.29 | wsky | i know very basics of russian |
| 23:48.38 | erm3nda | i know a 3 year children that can speak chinnesse. u don't impressed me :( |
| 23:48.42 | wsky | i can sing the first part of the cccp anthem :D |
| 23:48.52 | pron | erm3nda: i am not russian tho :P |
| 23:49.07 | erm3nda | aha, children it's chinnesse :D |
| 23:49.08 | pron | i think i can too |
| 23:49.11 | pron | few lines |
| 23:49.12 | pron | :P |
| 23:49.53 | wsky | dgugashvili |
| 23:49.53 | pron | anyways , firt terminal emulator that implements what i just said, will dominate market :P |
| 23:49.56 | erm3nda | now, people involved on last 100 log lines, go to #off-topic :V |
| 23:50.26 | erm3nda | pron, build it |
| 23:50.28 | wsky | erm3nda: i like living on the edge |
| 23:50.45 | erm3nda | i like life cutting edge |
| 23:50.48 | somiaj | Yes, I am having a hard time seeing a debian support question going on. I would wind down the conversation but so far I haven't seen any support issues get lost in the noise. |
| 23:50.59 | pron | erm3nda: i am not a programmer :P, can write some "backend" kind of code in python, wery slowl but thats about it |
| 23:51.19 | erm3nda | somiaj, told again your problem, past even |
| 23:51.48 | erm3nda | pron, me too |
| 23:51.54 | erm3nda | not an excuse to do things |
| 23:51.57 | wsky | pron: what you want to do is a script that takes an argument which will be passed to grep which will search the text file with the hosts for desired string |
| 23:52.14 | pron | and what it gona output?=) |
| 23:52.26 | wsky | a menu containing all found hosts |
| 23:52.45 | wsky | two routines |
| 23:53.22 | pron | and then what? |
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| 23:54.02 | wsky | and then you press 1, 2 or whatever and it selects your choice, and conects to the server |
| 23:54.25 | wsky | i can write that for you if you gonna tip me some beer money |
| 23:54.37 | pron | ypu would be happy to use that script for 10+ hours a day ?=) |
| 23:55.01 | wsky | what's wrong in that? |
| 23:55.01 | erm3nda | pron, making a simple guy is not hard as you might think |
| 23:55.06 | erm3nda | doing a terminal script is even easier |
| 23:55.12 | erm3nda | do it in Python is a pleasure |
| 23:55.17 | wsky | if you're aming at linux for professional use - you need to do some scripting eventually |
| 23:55.38 | erm3nda | ** everyday |
| 23:55.49 | pron | thats what i am doing more or less evey day |
| 23:55.51 | pron | but |
| 23:56.13 | somiaj | yes I write little scripts for actions I do multiple times a day. It is handy to be able to do that and then put them in $HOME/bin |
| 23:56.19 | RamPage | (pron) anyways , firt terminal emulator that implements what i just said, will dominate market :P <== only in a linux channel can some one named pron talk about implements and domination .. and it's totally on-topic AND PG rated |
| 23:56.21 | RamPage | :D |
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| 23:56.30 | pron | yes |
| 23:56.31 | pron | :p |
| 23:56.44 | pron | dont tell me open source apps dont compete for succsess |
| 23:56.47 | pron | ^^ |
| 23:57.04 | pron | what ever words i used to describe that does not metter |
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| 23:57.51 | pron | in some cases devs or project leaders are redy to cut competitors throts judging by what they write in mailing lists |
