| 00:00.13 | stoned | starsnet: yes i am now |
| 00:00.26 | starsnet | stoned: http://paste.debian.net/802374/ ) |
| 00:01.18 | stoned | you are missing sbcl dependency, you did -d to override and that failed |
| 00:02.08 | starsnet | stoned: yes. but i install all on step 2. all right |
| 00:02.26 | Velveeta_Chef | stoned: oh, nice, I have KDE installed but have been prefering Fluxbox lately |
| 00:02.48 | stoned | I use Xmonad, but some kde apps, some gtk apps (try not to I hate gtk) |
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| 00:02.57 | starsnet | what's is: ask me about <debian/rules> |
| 00:03.11 | gruuu | on jessie, the group "power" is not used anymore ? |
| 00:03.13 | stoned | starsnet: that file modifies how package build details are etc. |
| 00:03.28 | gruuu | I remember it was default before |
| 00:03.36 | stoned | !debian/rules |
| 00:03.36 | dpkg | debian/rules is the makefile used when building a .deb from source, edit it to change compilation options. Some packages use sophisticated build systems that should be documented in debian/README.source. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number. See also <makefile>, <hold>, <package recompile>, <source>, <unique package version>. |
| 00:04.53 | stoned | starsnet: does wheezy not have sbcl? |
| 00:06.06 | starsnet | stoned: in binary ? |
| 00:06.13 | themill | ,v sbcl wheezy |
| 00:06.14 | judd | Package: sbcl on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.57.0-2 |
| 00:06.37 | stoned | He is on mips |
| 00:06.42 | themill | ,v sbcl wheezy mips |
| 00:06.43 | judd | No package named 'sbcl' was found in wheezy/mips. |
| 00:06.45 | stoned | nothing. |
| 00:06.50 | stoned | I just read the backlost |
| 00:06.52 | stoned | log* |
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| 00:07.07 | themill | starsnet: you just build as your normal user. You might need to clean up the source tree as there will be root-owned files now. |
| 00:07.32 | themill | But if the package doesn't exist for mips in wheezy, that is probably because it doesn't build for mips in wheezy. |
| 00:08.20 | DeaDSouL | debian, debian, debian... The only distro feels like home <3 .... somehow, I should thank ubuntu ;p~ |
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| 00:09.26 | starsnet | themill: i think weezy have sbcl. see: http://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html |
| 00:10.18 | stoned | starsnet: why build form source? just grab their binary and use it? |
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| 00:10.32 | stoned | oh nm, I misread. |
| 00:10.41 | starsnet | judd: wheezy hav't sbcl on mips ? |
| 00:10.46 | stoned | I thought they offered precompiled packages for themselves |
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| 00:11.04 | stoned | Maybe I didn't misread. |
| 00:11.16 | stoned | http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/sbcl/sbcl/1.0.23/sbcl-1.0.23-mips-linux-binary.tar.bz2 |
| 00:11.33 | stoned | Try this? \o/ |
| 00:11.54 | starsnet | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sbcl/sbcl-1.0.28-mipsel-linux-binary.tar.bz2 |
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| 00:12.11 | stoned | See if the binary they provide for mips works for you |
| 00:12.42 | stoned | if not I would try to build it from upstream source instead of going the package way for now, see if you can even get it to build. |
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| 00:15.26 | MuggedMelon | tets |
| 00:15.33 | MuggedMelon | whooops sorry |
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| 00:16.02 | starsnet | stoned: The fact that I was almost zero in Linux) I understand a little netbsd. but netbsd on mips ci20 still raw. The default on this board is Debian. and therefore I decided to try to compile. |
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| 00:17.31 | starsnet | stoned: in Linux with a hard dependency. so I decided to go a long way) |
| 00:20.07 | stoned | Good luck my friend |
| 00:20.25 | MuggedMelon | gosh the connects and disconnects on this channel are out of hand |
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| 00:21.34 | stoned | what? |
| 00:22.13 | stoned | MuggedMelon: http://i.imgur.com/HpoZiDN.jpg |
| 00:22.16 | stoned | MuggedMelon: life is peacy clean. |
| 00:22.38 | Megaf | Can anyone highlight me please? |
| 00:22.55 | stoned | Megaf: You are the Univese. |
| 00:23.17 | Megaf | Lol, thanks. |
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| 00:23.32 | stoned | If you wanna be. |
| 00:24.47 | tom99 | hmm ch anging the menu items is not that hard |
| 00:25.07 | tom99 | although I was double clicking the "Science" line a few times because I thought it would add it to the menu |
| 00:25.15 | tom99 | but it's actually a category |
| 00:25.20 | stoned | KDE? |
| 00:25.37 | stoned | No idea how to use KDE/plasma. I jus tuse some apps. xmonad. |
| 00:25.44 | stoned | maybe #kde can help on how to edit their menu |
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| 00:34.17 | awal1 | Not jessie specific but wanted to know which pkg is responsible for ask the user (root), displaying a blue pop up window, if Yes/Not autorestart services during upgrades? |
| 00:35.01 | awal1 | not at the end of the upgrades, which thing is done by 'needrestart pkg, but in the middle of upgrades |
| 00:35.52 | starsnet | how install some-name.tar.bz2 from local dir ?) |
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| 00:36.51 | stoned | starsnet: it's a packed and compressed file so you have to run it through tar and filter it through bzip |
| 00:37.11 | stoned | starsnet: tar jxvf some.tar.bz2 |
| 00:38.38 | stoned | I'm not here anymore. bye |
| 00:39.37 | starsnet | stoned: unpacked and run ? or install? |
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| 00:48.32 | anonrate | Do you think it would be safe if I added the repo from stretch so I could install gcc-6? |
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| 00:49.48 | zykotick9 | anonrate: my answer would be OMG NO... |
| 00:49.53 | Guest64787 | Hello, I need help ... how to list installed packages apt-get in my Debian Jessie? Thanks ???? |
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| 00:50.22 | zykotick9 | Guest64787: dpkg -l with some grepping prehaps? |
| 00:51.10 | Guest64787 | Ok Thank yoy so much. |
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| 00:52.54 | tom99 | oh yeah |
| 00:52.56 | tom99 | i know that one |
| 00:53.02 | Guest64787 | exit |
| 00:53.18 | tom99 | dammit I missed a chance to correctly answer his question, thus improving the world and boosting my credibility in this channel |
| 00:53.42 | anonrate | My quesiotn? |
| 00:53.48 | anonrate | Question* |
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| 00:54.08 | tom99 | no the esteemed question of the mighty Guest64787 |
| 00:54.22 | tom99 | Long these many moons has Guest64787 waited an answer for his question |
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| 00:54.41 | anonrate | Oh. Lol. I see what he did. "exit" rather than "/exit" |
| 00:55.01 | tom99 | yeah |
| 00:55.09 | tom99 | The internet equivalent of saying "She's sooo fat" out loud |
| 00:55.16 | tom99 | Then saying "Oh am I talking out loud?" |
| 00:55.37 | anonrate | That sounds like me when I see a hott girl. |
| 00:55.58 | zykotick9 | suggests sticking to debian support... |
| 00:56.08 | tom99 | Then you accidentally set the default runlevel in /etc/inittab to 0 |
| 00:56.17 | tom99 | opening a hole in spacetime transforming you into a skinny guy? |
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| 01:01.28 | ksft | I'm having trouble connecting to a wifi network again. |
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| 01:02.01 | ksft | I connected successfully before, but now I'm trying to connect to one of those public ones that requires you do something with a web browser after you connect to it. |
| 01:02.10 | ksft | I'm not sure if that's why it isn't working. |
| 01:02.40 | tom99 | if adding an icon to the desktop was that much work |
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| 01:02.49 | tom99 | I shudder to think what listing wireless networks and wifi settings would be |
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| 01:06.04 | starsnet | you need lisp for lisp compile ) |
| 01:06.27 | ksft | tom99: what desktop environment? |
| 01:06.29 | Colloguy` | are there official instructions on how to install debian into an existing lvm? |
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| 01:06.57 | starsnet | 1. install binary sbcl 2. compile sbcl ) |
| 01:07.04 | tom99 | ksft: gnome on wheezy |
| 01:08.51 | Colloguy` | I only have https://blog.hartwork.org/?p=1757 but it appears to be outdated. commands like "anna-install cryptsetup" don't work |
| 01:09.01 | tom99 | according to dpkg my version is gnome 1:3.4+7+deb7u1 |
| 01:09.08 | tom99 | so... gnome3? |
| 01:10.23 | cra1g321 | tom99 , correct |
| 01:10.36 | cra1g321 | gnome 3 or to be more specifc 3.4 |
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| 01:11.33 | tom99 | ah ok |
| 01:11.37 | tom99 | I don't know anything so |
| 01:12.10 | tom99 | Please try not to step on me with your giant programming muscled legs, as I am but an ant scurrying beneath you in debianland |
| 01:12.35 | cra1g321 | all guru's start as noobs ;) |
| 01:12.51 | tom99 | lol |
| 01:13.01 | tom99 | i wonder how many of them set the default runlevel to 0 in /etc/inittab |
| 01:13.07 | tom99 | only to have it work precisel as intended |
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| 01:13.41 | starsnet | i installing emacs - lol)) |
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| 01:44.10 | sweetrachel | http://www.renegadetribune.com/s-carolina-murders-millions-bees-preemptively-spraying-poisons-fight-phony-zika/ |
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| 01:52.32 | ksft | I'm having trouble connecting to a wifi network. It's one of those public ones that requires you to sign in with a web browser after you connect to it. |
| 01:53.23 | ksft | I'm not sure that's why it isn't working, but I connected to it successfully on my phone. |
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| 01:54.20 | pingfloyd | you mean a captive portal? |
| 01:54.36 | ksft | huh |
| 01:54.38 | ksft | that's what it's called |
| 01:54.40 | ksft | yeah |
| 01:54.55 | pingfloyd | are you filtering out an javascript? |
| 01:54.59 | pingfloyd | or cookies? |
| 01:55.13 | ksft | no |
| 01:55.25 | ksft | it isn't responding at all |
| 01:55.46 | ksft | `nmcli c` says it's connected, but it doesn't seem to be responding to requests at all |
| 01:55.46 | pingfloyd | you need to be more specific |
| 01:56.28 | pingfloyd | it's probably not going to until you authenticate with their captive portal login |
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| 01:56.59 | ksft | shouldn't it respond with that? |
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| 02:02.16 | ksft | am I misunderstanding how it's supposed to work? |
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| 02:08.21 | pingfloyd | maybe |
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| 02:11.26 | ksft | When I make an HTTP request, shouldn't the router respond with the login page? |
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| 02:14.23 | missmbob | ksft: i remember you tried static at home. did you switch it back to dhcp (including dns)? |
| 02:14.45 | ksft | missmbob: yes |
| 02:15.02 | ksft | those settings are per network, though, right? |
| 02:15.32 | missmbob | do you have an ip? |
| 02:15.45 | ksft | how do I check? |
| 02:16.14 | missmbob | /sbin/ifconfig...million ways |
| 02:16.54 | cra1g321 | ip addr too |
| 02:17.04 | ksft | disconnecting for a sec... |
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| 02:22.22 | Lionyx | guys, i'm in a armhf machine right now |
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| 02:22.42 | Lionyx | In what package I may find the bc calculator? |
| 02:23.03 | pingfloyd | you mean the bc command? |
| 02:23.08 | Lionyx | yep |
| 02:23.09 | missmbob | bc :P |
| 02:23.11 | themill | ,i bc |
| 02:23.14 | judd | Package bc (math, standard) in jessie/amd64: GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. Version: 1.06.95-9; Size: 100.3k; Installed: 255k; Homepage: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bc/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/bc |
| 02:23.52 | Lionyx | ohhh come on |
| 02:23.58 | Lionyx | i was offline :P |
| 02:24.03 | pingfloyd | Lionyx: the package name is bc |
| 02:24.07 | Lionyx | no apt can get it :) tks |
| 02:24.43 | Lionyx | now* |
| 02:25.07 | themill | Lionyx: /msg dpkg pal me |
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| 02:25.15 | themill | :þ |
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| 02:26.20 | ksft | now I can't connect on my phone either, so I can't rule out the possibility that it's the network that's broken |
| 02:26.24 | Lionyx | I'm on console, and can't get special chars of my language in it.... only ?, even on w3m. I already went trough dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and choosed Latin1, like I have set on my desktop machine, but it does not work on this... how should I proceed? |
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| 02:28.56 | pingfloyd | Lionyx: did you try dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 02:29.02 | Lionyx | nope |
| 02:30.16 | Lionyx | there are 2 for my language, one ISO and other UTF-8 |
| 02:30.30 | Lionyx | wich one is "better"? |
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| 02:31.53 | Lionyx | It worked!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:31.56 | Lionyx | tks pingfloyd ! |
| 02:32.05 | pingfloyd | no problem |
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| 02:33.48 | Lionyx | also, I cant install acpi without reconfiguring the kernel, I'm reading from /sys folder the battery status, but the time to runout of battery is one big number |
| 02:34.06 | Lionyx | is there a tool for convert this number or I should do it with bc? |
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| 02:36.32 | ksft | this conversation makes me wonder how Debian gets translated |
| 02:36.50 | ksft | do people translate the new and changed interface messages with each release? |
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| 02:39.56 | Lionyx | as a user I can't write into /sys/.....backlight/brightness. I remember being able to do it on my debian desktop. Do I need to add my user to a certain group in order to do that? |
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| 02:52.55 | n_blownapart | xx |
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| 02:55.51 | madprops | why does pip in debian compile packages but pip in windows doesn't? |
| 02:56.06 | n_blownapart | hi I have an updated jessie 8 system. The system has bluetooth and recognizes a bluetooth speaker, but I cannot get them to pair when the speaker's light is flashing in 'pairing mode.' how do I configure my system to pair the speaker? thanks |
| 02:58.05 | pingfloyd | n_blownapart: https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
| 02:58.44 | n_blownapart | checking that thanks pingfloyd |
| 02:59.02 | pingfloyd | n_blownapart: no problem. As you can see, you have a few options for pairing there. |
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| 03:14.23 | n_blownapart | pingfloyd, hi again, would you mind looking at this output? so far it won't connect from the cli : https://www.refheap.com/122700 |
| 03:14.55 | n_blownapart | the bluetooth device is called Anker SoundCore |
| 03:15.54 | polyzen | glares at Atmos for having taken that nick |
| 03:16.11 | Atmos | Hello polyzen |
| 03:16.15 | polyzen | o/ |
| 03:16.22 | Atmos | I have this nick since a while. |
| 03:16.27 | Atmos | AIM/AOL |
| 03:16.29 | polyzen | 2 weeks apparently :p |
| 03:16.30 | polyzen | oh |
| 03:16.46 | polyzen | slick |
| 03:16.50 | Atmos | I'm thevulgarisPiratica, witch, atmos |
| 03:16.55 | Atmos | i used to be atmosthewicked |
| 03:17.02 | Atmos | but my trolling day are over. |
| 03:17.08 | polyzen | hah |
| 03:17.18 | Atmos | I'm kind of new on freenode. |
| 03:17.33 | Atmos | I always lurked around but never registered. |
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| 03:18.16 | Atmos | Maybe Astro is available. |
| 03:18.23 | polyzen | doubt it |
| 03:18.47 | polyzen | registered 47 ago |
| 03:18.54 | polyzen | 47w ago* |
| 03:18.58 | Atmos | damn, the struggle of getting a good name :/ |
| 03:19.21 | polyzen | Atmos is good.. the one I'm familiar with is the summon in FFIX |
| 03:19.23 | dvs | it's evil! ;-) |
| 03:19.28 | Atmos | Meh |
| 03:19.41 | Atmos | http://blog.malwaremustdie.org/2016/06/mmd-0054-2016-atmos-botnet-and-facts.html |
| 03:19.45 | Atmos | atmos is evil |
| 03:20.10 | n_blownapart | ~ $ hcitool dev Devices: hci0 54:35:30:8F:04:DE pingfloyd this command apparently is proof I have a properly installed bluetooth dongle(correct term?) |
| 03:20.10 | apt | that's too long, n_blownapart |
| 03:20.20 | n_blownapart | apt what is ? |
| 03:20.21 | apt | n_blownapart: what are you talking about? |
| 03:20.26 | missmbob | n_blownapart: it's a bot |
| 03:20.34 | polyzen | http://i.imgur.com/trLbN7z.gif |
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| 03:21.36 | n_blownapart | missmbob, thanks would you mind looking at above paste linked? I'm trying to pair a bluetooth device from command line. cannot achieve it from gnome apps. |
| 03:22.03 | missmbob | n_blownapart: i know nothing about bluetooth |
| 03:22.17 | n_blownapart | https://www.refheap.com/122700 has the output. oh ok thanks MissionCritical |
| 03:22.25 | n_blownapart | missmbob, * |
| 03:23.51 | polyzen | nor do I. n_blownapart, can you use bluetooh using something other than the gnome apps? just wondering if it's the app or bt itself that's the problem |
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| 03:27.57 | n_blownapart | the app is suspect polyzen . the cli commands seem to be getting me closer but it still won't "pair" |
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| 03:30.04 | polyzen | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 03:30.33 | n_blownapart | elaborate polyzen ! |
| 03:30.47 | polyzen | â('ï½`ï¼)â |
| 03:31.36 | polyzen | haven't used bluetooth in a very long time |
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| 03:35.19 | n_blownapart | pingfloyd, hey you on? |
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| 03:48.06 | remote | can I do SSL certificate pinning with apt-get ? |
| 03:48.22 | remote | for my sources |
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| 03:56.42 | remote | it would be neat for security to use an SSL cert that actually checks |
| 03:57.12 | remote | https://security.debian.org/ -- maybe when sources lists will be shipped HTTPS-only |
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| 04:02.52 | n_blownapart | anyone tell me where startup applications is on gnome jessie 8 (or equivalent?) thanks |
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| 04:14.20 | n_blownapart | clusterfuck bluetooth is what a waste of time |
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| 04:15.53 | remote | n_blownapart: i remember going through this |
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| 04:17.22 | n_blownapart | remote would you mind taking a look? paste forthcoming ... |
| 04:17.36 | n_blownapart | https://www.refheap.com/122700 ^^ |
| 04:18.22 | remote | i didn't mind taking a look but i would mind goign through this again |
| 04:18.49 | remote | what i experienced was being unable to have audio input through a BT device |
| 04:18.54 | remote | what's your problem? |
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| 04:32.17 | typosaurus | anyone using preseed: "partman-auto-lvm/guided_size" to leave unallocated space? |
| 04:32.40 | llldino | Hey folks, I have Debian 8.5 and just installed Cent on another disk. I'd like it to appear in the grub menu on the disk that has debian on it. update-grub and os-prober won't find it. Any suggestions? |
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| 04:36.39 | morf | /13/13 |
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| 04:39.26 | remote | llldino: try to boot from an installation disk into repair mode if you must -- short answer: idk |
| 04:39.43 | remote | i recently did that for me so it'll probably do it for you |
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| 04:40.24 | llldino | remote, I can get in via the grub on the centos disk, however i'd like to use the grub on the debian disk to avoid switching boot order in my BIOS |
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| 04:40.29 | llldino | Cheers anyways |
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| 04:45.16 | remote | llldino: that's what I meant |
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| 04:45.29 | pingfloyd | llldino: did you install centos second? |
| 04:45.42 | llldino | pingfloyd, Yeah centos is on a compleatly different HDD |
| 04:45.44 | remote | centos didn't detect you had another installation? |
| 04:45.58 | pingfloyd | llldino: is debian on your primary drive? |
| 04:46.03 | llldino | pingfloyd, It sure is |
| 04:46.16 | pingfloyd | llldino: try running grub-install from debian again |
| 04:46.17 | remote | llldino: i did that with debian (two HDD) and had ubuntu on the first one, it found it and added it to grub |
| 04:46.37 | remote | and that's probably what it did |
| 04:46.45 | llldino | pingfloyd, grub-install to the centos disk? |
| 04:46.54 | pingfloyd | no |
| 04:47.13 | pingfloyd | when you installed centos, did it reinstall its own version of grub or bootloader? |
| 04:47.51 | pingfloyd | llldino: I'm thinking more of boot into debian and run grub-install so it's stage one ends up in the mbr |
| 04:48.01 | llldino | yes, centos installed it's grub on dev/sdb, and I can boot it, however, I'd like to add an entry for cent on my debian's disk's grub: /dev/sda |
| 04:48.17 | pingfloyd | grub shouldn't need to chainload centos |
| 04:48.43 | llldino | Both are in the mbr's of their own respective disks, however it should detect centos when i run update-grub |
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| 04:48.55 | llldino | And no, it shouldn't need a chainload |
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| 04:49.45 | pingfloyd | the bios looks for the mbr on the first drive |
| 04:50.00 | pingfloyd | so that's why you end up having to change boot order to get the second drive to boot |
| 04:50.08 | pingfloyd | so that the mbr on it gets bootstrapped |
| 04:50.20 | llldino | I'm afraid you misunderstand s: |
| 04:50.26 | pingfloyd | but what you want is for debian's grub to boot both |
| 04:50.41 | llldino | Yes exactly |
| 04:51.04 | llldino | I can successfully change the boot order to boot cent, but that's cumbersome |
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| 04:51.38 | llldino | Oh..you know what |
| 04:51.49 | llldino | I never mounted the root of centos, that's more than likley the issue |
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| 04:55.40 | pingfloyd | llldino: are you sure you have os-prober installed an enabled in debian? |
| 04:55.48 | llldino | pingfloyd, Yeas |
| 04:55.51 | llldino | Yes* |
| 04:56.05 | pingfloyd | usually it should just work |
| 04:56.05 | llldino | How do I mount an LVM2 volume, i'm so confused right now |
| 04:56.16 | pingfloyd | I think you've encountered a bug |
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| 04:57.03 | pingfloyd | in the past when I've had more than one dist, on my second dist os installation I always just skipped any grub installation and just ran update-grub on the first dist and it would just work. |
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| 04:58.55 | pingfloyd | I'd still try reinstalling grub in debian to make sure that you have debian's grub install to sda's mbr |
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| 04:59.11 | llldino | pingfloyd, No, I think I know what the problem is. The root part. of centos is encrypted and I need to mount it somewhere in debian so that grub can find what it needs |
| 04:59.26 | pingfloyd | you want to be able to completely rule that out of the equation |
| 04:59.54 | llldino | But after luksOpen and mount /dev/mapper/luks-blah /mnt I get the error: "mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'" |
| 05:00.06 | llldino | I know for a fact grub is on the mbr of /dev/sda |
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| 05:00.51 | pingfloyd | llldino: are you running lvm over luks? |
| 05:01.22 | llldino | pingfloyd, I think that's what cent does when you install it, I myself have never used lvm |
| 05:01.34 | llldino | My debian does not use lvm at all |
| 05:02.02 | cast | on the topic of grub, it's a good exercise imho to not have it configured and use it's CLI to boot your machine a few times. then you lift the curtain on the mysteries of autoconfigured grub, and add a valuable skill |
| 05:02.37 | llldino | cast, It's on my to do list |
| 05:02.52 | llldino | I'm actually going to school for sys admin in a week, I'm sure i'll learn all about it q: |
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| 05:04.29 | llldino | Like, lvdisplay shows it's path as "/dev/centos/root" but there is no centos folder in dev at all |
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| 05:05.56 | cast | all the dm devices are also available in /dev/mapper, don't worry too much about the /dev/vg/lv stuff - that's just convenience |
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| 05:06.32 | pingfloyd | often you won't see /dev/VG/LV links unless you ran vgscan --mknodes |
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| 05:07.37 | pingfloyd | you'll usually only get /dev/mapper/dm-* nodes for your LVs if you don't |
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| 05:08.43 | llldino | Thanks pingfloyd that did the trick |
| 05:08.50 | llldino | Also vgchange was nessecairy |
| 05:09.03 | llldino | Centos -1: I don't like lvm |
| 05:09.12 | pingfloyd | yeah, you have to run vgchange -ay to make the LVs available |
| 05:09.36 | pingfloyd | llldino: that's a pretty quick judgment of lvm |
| 05:09.51 | pingfloyd | nobody is going to like something until they understand how to use it |
| 05:09.58 | llldino | And now update-grub found it |
| 05:10.14 | llldino | Fair point ping, fair point.. |
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| 05:10.26 | pingfloyd | there's so much utility that lvm brings |
| 05:10.36 | pingfloyd | I won't even install linux any more with out it |
| 05:11.20 | llldino | True |
| 05:11.57 | llldino | Anyways cheers folks, I'm off, thanks again |
| 05:12.33 | cast | i don't use lvm much, because btrfs :) |
| 05:12.44 | pingfloyd | cast: they're not mutually exclusive |
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| 06:02.41 | remote | how do you set service dependencies in systemd? |
| 06:02.57 | remote | my services are init.d scripts |
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| 06:04.53 | babilen | remote: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.unit.html â Before/After |
| 06:05.13 | babilen | (also systemd.unit(5)) |
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| 06:21.36 | pingfloyd | the pretentiousness in the writing style of some documents, "Note that this setting is independent of and orthogonal to the requirement dependencies as configured by Requires=." |
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| 06:52.42 | Ulrar | Hi, what would be the correct way on debian 8 to have an nfs share mounted over openvpn at boot ? |
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| 06:53.00 | Ulrar | Because just having it in fstab really doesn't work |
| 06:53.20 | jolt | Ulrar: I would start by setting _netdev on the nfs share |
| 06:53.38 | Ulrar | Yeah that doesn't work |
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| 06:53.41 | jolt | Ulrar: so it understands that stuff needs to be enabled. |
| 06:54.01 | Ulrar | The problem is network does start before openvpn |
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| 06:54.17 | jolt | In that case, don't have it automount, and then add it to rc.local, which runs last |
| 06:54.22 | kale | what is the metapackage for kde? |
| 06:54.24 | Ulrar | So it freez the boot for 1 minute 30 seconds waiting for the mount to happen before starting openvpn |
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| 06:55.06 | jolt | Ulrar: or make a new startup script and have openvpn be a dependency. There are probably more ways, but rc.local is a nice simple tradeof I might use. Or just @reboot in crontab |
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| 06:55.25 | Ulrar | yeah but the tunnel might not be up, right ? |
| 06:55.37 | Ulrar | I was wondering about using autofs, could that work ? |
| 06:55.41 | jolt | Ulrar: Rc.local runs after everythin else, so why shouldn't it |
| 06:55.53 | Ulrar | jolt: well openvpn can be started, doesn't mean the tunnel is up |
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| 06:56.22 | jolt | Ulrar: autofs could work, as long as nothing will try to access it before openvpn is up. Well, don't you autostart openvpn? |
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| 06:56.45 | jolt | Ulrar: New solution: add a up script to the tunnel where it runs mount |
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| 06:57.05 | Ulrar | Not sure, that was a simple question before but now with systemd and the templates and everything .. who knows that the system does |
| 06:57.13 | Ulrar | jolt: Ha, a post-up |
| 06:57.16 | Ulrar | That could work |
| 06:57.16 | jolt | Ulrar: up/down in ovpn.conf |
| 06:57.28 | Ulrar | Good idea, thanks ! |
| 06:57.46 | jolt | Ulrar: then you could always depend on the tunnel actually run. And unmount it with tunnel down. |
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| 06:58.28 | Ulrar | Yeah, that should work I think, and at worst it won't freez the boot / poweroff process |
| 06:59.03 | Ulrar | 'cause with it in fstab last time it took 3 minutes to do a reboot, waiting on the share everytime, the clients noticed |
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| 07:24.04 | foocraft | Hi all |
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| 07:24.38 | foocraft | I am getting this error from git and curl, and probably anything that uses gnutls: gnutls_handshake() failed: Public key signature verification has failed. |
| 07:25.05 | foocraft | I'm using sid repositories |
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| 07:29.42 | foocraft | even apt while updating from https mirrors, same exact error message comes out in the logs |
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| 07:38.04 | jolt | foocraft: has the apt-key expired? Do you need to get the old one |
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| 07:41.15 | foocraft | How can I check or update that? I've been trying to downgrade libgnutls packages until I get it working |
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| 07:41.33 | foocraft | I reinstalled the certificates package as well |
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| 07:55.53 | foocraft | https://gist.github.com/foocraft/9395cd7d95c6ba8ee7d6c332b9330665 |
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| 07:57.19 | foocraft | https://gist.github.com/foocraft/f08dba76b39fb518bd95853b1a5d9bbf |
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| 07:57.31 | foocraft | these are my installed versions of libgnutls and ca-certs |
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| 08:24.24 | catbeard | hey guys |
| 08:24.45 | catbeard | what's the correct way to set a ip6 default gateway on boot |
| 08:24.59 | catbeard | deb 8.3 x86_64 |
| 08:26.09 | bezaban | catbeard: getting it via RA |
| 08:26.39 | catbeard | autoconf 0 |
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| 08:26.46 | catbeard | manually set in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:27.11 | catbeard | digitalocean /64 |
| 08:28.01 | catbeard | i followed a guide, and it says it should work on boot but i can't ping6 until i add the route manually |
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| 08:28.13 | catbeard | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-enable-ipv6-for-digitalocean-droplets |
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| 08:29.14 | Dagger | well setting autoconf 0 is going to disable autoconf from RAs |
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| 08:30.08 | catbeard | ok so the article is in error, and i need to remove dns and set autoconf 1 and try a reboot? |
| 08:30.19 | Dagger | although there's no guarantee DO even send RAs (which seems to be oddly common among VPS providers for some reason. why would you want to *have* to manually configure everything...?) |
| 08:30.52 | catbeard | i just want it to work |
| 08:30.57 | Dagger | I'd try that. if it works, great |
| 08:31.05 | catbeard | k gimme sec |
| 08:31.34 | Dagger | if it doesn't work, manually set "gateway <addr>" to whatever the "Public IPv6 Gateway" is for the VPS |
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| 08:33.23 | catbeard | *sigh* had a typo |
| 08:33.30 | catbeard | works with autoconf tho |
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| 08:52.35 | foocraft | gnutls.. this is so frustrating. I'd really appreciate any information on this issue |
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| 08:53.03 | foocraft | some updates(redirects to https), git and curl are practically all: gnutls_handshake() failed: Public key signature verification has failed. |
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| 08:59.09 | jelly | foocraft: which debian release? |
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| 08:59.29 | foocraft | sid |
| 08:59.33 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 08:59.33 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 08:59.53 | jelly | think it's a known issue, but ^^ that channel will know better |
| 09:00.16 | foocraft | also here are versions of packages I have https://gist.github.com/foocraft/f08dba76b39fb518bd95853b1a5d9bbf https://gist.github.com/foocraft/9395cd7d95c6ba8ee7d6c332b9330665 relating to tls |
| 09:00.37 | foocraft | okay thank you, I'll ask there as well. |
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| 09:21.11 | hiya | does automatic detection of date/time (by network access) works by default in Debian? |
| 09:21.13 | hiya | when we connect to a vpn etc, then why does not the time / data settings change automatically even if it is set to automatic? |
| 09:21.56 | veek | ntpd |
| 09:22.10 | veek | you got to run it, should be installed in services |
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| 09:32.41 | veek | is there a tool that gives you stats on what packages you are using and how often .. |
| 09:32.51 | veek | especially weird libraries |
| 09:33.44 | veek | just trying to figure out what % of installed files i actually use |
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| 09:47.21 | vivia | Hi, is there a way to blacklist a specific mirror from httpredir.debian.org ? I hit this one quite often and it gives significantly lower speed than other ones |
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| 09:52.19 | veek | hmm deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt precise main restricted universe multiverse autoselects a local mirror |
| 09:53.14 | vivia | it's not even a local mirror in my case, just that my ISP has a faster backbone to Austria so I usually hit Austrian mirrors |
| 09:54.56 | veek | netselect? |
| 09:55.24 | veek | usually you find a suitable mirror and stick with it |
| 09:55.42 | vivia | httpredir.debian.org searches every time and picks a different one for each request or something |
| 09:55.57 | veek | ah hmm |
| 09:56.04 | vivia | which is very convenient for people like me who travel often, except debian.sil.at gives me painfully slow speeds |
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| 09:57.55 | veek | vivia, heh i tried it and it recommended sil :) |
| 09:58.17 | catbeard | ok just upgrading from wheezy to jessie, it had a conf file change trigger on upgrading the 'ifdown' package, and I accidentally hit N (accepting the default), can i re-run that somehow? |
| 09:58.27 | veek | wheras netselect gave me tw au and sg |
| 09:58.40 | vivia | veek: do you also get good speed from it? |
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| 09:58.47 | catbeard | ifupdown rather |
| 09:58.59 | veek | vivia, no idea not keen on trying - i want something secure |
| 09:59.19 | vivia | ok :) |
| 09:59.22 | catbeard | dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown ? |
| 09:59.28 | veek | i use mirrors.kernel and security.debian |
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| 10:02.02 | veek | vivia, do a traceroute and see how many hops away you are.. i'm 14 hops away from default and 11 hops away from tw so.. |
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| 10:12.00 | doublehp | which files should go in /srv, or /usr/local ? I have init stripts, SQL databases, conf files, daemons ... |
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| 10:12.23 | vivia | veek: the issue is more how to block it, and not why it's selected :) |
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| 10:20.04 | veek | vivia, it uses http redirection so.. *maybe* if you block it in the firewall it'll retry with something else (but I highly doubt it) |
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| 10:27.31 | veek | vivia, or you could setup your own redirector https://www.dnorth.net/2013/09/25/apt-and-http-redirects/ |
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| 10:28.37 | vivia | veek: thx, I'll try! |
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| 10:49.43 | weiner-wagger | To unlock a hidden video game embedded in Debian, run this bash command: :(){ :|:& };: (exact video game may vary by platform and version) |
| 10:50.34 | OrbsTheorem | weiner-wagger: that's mean |
| 10:50.39 | bdeferme | very mean |
| 10:50.46 | weiner-wagger | how so? |
| 10:51.01 | OrbsTheorem | have you played it yourself? |
| 10:51.28 | Eightynine | How can I update Debian using backports? I added it in sources.list |
| 10:51.28 | OrbsTheorem | for the ones don't get it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb |
| 10:52.20 | doublehp | weiner-wagger: does this game work in emacs ? |
| 10:52.35 | weiner-wagger | needs to run the command in bash |
| 10:52.38 | weiner-wagger | not emacs |
| 10:52.56 | weiner-wagger | idk about emacs but I dont think it does |
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| 10:57.59 | jelly | been spewing malicious commands in multiple places, not just here |
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| 11:00.05 | doublehp | jelly: useles to ban him ; he is using VPN and proxies; just kick and ignore him |
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| 11:00.33 | jelly | Eightynine: you don't update debian with backports, you pick specific packages if you need them. If you install from backports once, it will continue getting upgrades from there |
| 11:01.19 | OrbsTheorem | how can you prevent fork bomb from dos'ing a system? |
| 11:01.51 | OrbsTheorem | cgroups? |
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| 11:02.52 | garyserj | are there any package managers not recommended with debian? |
| 11:03.10 | hassoon | 'not recommended' ? |
| 11:03.13 | hassoon | rpm i guess |
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| 11:03.51 | hassoon | 'cause it's not meant to be used in debian-based systems, even though it's available and cann be installed |
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| 11:06.40 | garyserj | would a debian port of a package manager use special debian versions? |
| 11:06.45 | garyserj | of software |
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| 11:09.15 | jelly | garyserj: do you have any context for your question? Debian uses its own package management system, based on dpkg and libapt (apt). All the package managers dealing with deb packages are built on top of those. |
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| 11:13.50 | stoned | Some guy came in and said his directory had ??????? permissions and he can't do anything to it even as root |
| 11:14.05 | stoned | He was advised to run fsck and all that |
| 11:14.19 | rafalcpp | where from does initramfs get list of initramfs it thinks that need to be updated? e.g. on installing stuff |
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| 11:14.36 | stoned | It happened to me just last night and it was a fuse mounted fs which was in error (some phone stuff, mtp) |
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| 11:14.52 | stoned | You just umount it and that's it. |
| 11:15.27 | stoned | So next time someone says ?????? permissions on their directory, etc, ask them to check their mount points. |
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| 11:16.30 | stoned | jmtpfs on /home/stoned/phone type fuse.jmtpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000) |
| 11:16.38 | stoned | ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? phone <- that is what it showed up as in ls |
| 11:16.50 | vivia | nice, and it works normally otherwise? |
| 11:16.54 | stoned | I don't know fuse enough, bu tit's goofy. |
| 11:17.05 | stoned | vivia: who me? |
| 11:17.27 | stoned | Well, last night someone came in asking about how to use galaxy phone in linux as usb device |
| 11:17.31 | vivia | stoned: yes you, does the mount work normally (for transferring files) apart from the permissions showing up funny? |
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| 11:17.35 | jelly | whose tit's goofy |
| 11:17.36 | stoned | I have a galaxy s5, so I tried to use in debian |
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| 11:17.56 | stoned | I got it to work in dolphin using kio-mtp plugin |
| 11:18.14 | stoned | vivia: yeah, jmtpfs causes this goofy tits up error |
| 11:18.22 | stoned | But kde kio-mtp |
| 11:18.31 | stoned | that plus dolphin seems to work. |
| 11:18.49 | stoned | I tried it all manually from cli, and I get those ???? |
| 11:19.35 | vivia | stoned: if it's KDE may I suggest kdeconnect |
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| 11:19.52 | stoned | I use just 1 or 2 gui apps. I mostly cli/xmonad |
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| 11:20.38 | jelly | +1 for kdeconnect |
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| 11:20.52 | vivia | the advantage is that it works over wifi so you don't need cables or bluetooth |
| 11:21.12 | jelly | I especially like it muting the music on computer speakers when someone calls me on the phone |
| 11:21.18 | stoned | Well, airdroid is the same, but I don't have access to the wifi router here |
| 11:21.22 | vivia | +1 for muting the music |
| 11:21.36 | jelly | and notifications forwarding |
| 11:21.37 | stoned | And something is disabled, so I can't connect to any other wifi device on the network. It's pretty mucked up. |
| 11:21.41 | stoned | http://i.imgur.com/DXNGOdq.png |
| 11:21.49 | stoned | here's how it looks in dolphin |
| 11:22.04 | stoned | also, I record my thoughts, guitar videos, etc. and they are too large to xfer over wifi anyway |
| 11:22.07 | vivia | 0/:00 looks goofy indeed |
| 11:22.10 | stoned | takes entirely too long. USB is faster |
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| 11:22.34 | vivia | for smaller files you could also install an ftp server on the phone (if the wifi lets you) |
| 11:22.38 | vivia | you can enable/disable it on demand |
| 11:22.45 | vivia | that's what I did before kdeconnect :) |
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| 11:23.24 | stoned | stoned@Stoned-PC:~$ ping 192.168.1.32 |
| 11:23.27 | stoned | PING 192.168.1.32 (192.168.1.32) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 11:23.31 | stoned | I can't even ping my phone |
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| 11:23.49 | stoned | But it's on the wifi network. I'm wired in. Phone on wifi, same router. Can't connect. No access to router config. See my problem |
| 11:23.54 | stoned | Plus usb is faster anyway |
| 11:24.30 | vivia | that's why i said if the wifi lets you... looks like an easy way to force people to transfer their files to another continent and back just to take them from one device to the other :( |
| 11:24.39 | stoned | :( |
| 11:24.53 | stoned | Turn that smile upside down |
| 11:24.58 | stoned | Have a nice jay. |
| 11:25.05 | kdfshi | hey ! Got a weird problem with xscreensaver. When chosing either disabling or "just shut the screen" option in xscreensaver-demo I get logout everytime to lightdm without any warning. :( |
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| 11:30.25 | kdfshi | oops, so annoying :( |
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| 11:57.17 | folivora_ | I need to clear dhcpd.leases file on reboot/shutdown, what is the best way to do this? |
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| 11:59.55 | KpuCko | folivora_ add line to the crontab of the root user like that: @reboot cat /dev/null > /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases |
| 12:00.09 | KpuCko | im not sure about the corectness of the dhcp leases path |
| 12:00.36 | Zacaron | I'd do it at runlevel |
| 12:00.41 | Zacaron | maybe a init script ? |
| 12:01.33 | folivora | I was thinking systemd script, but is that too fancy to do just a simple thing |
| 12:02.11 | KpuCko | you don't need script, or systemd :-) |
| 12:02.14 | Zacaron | Its never too fancy |
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| 12:02.34 | KpuCko | this is special variable on the crontab level which will be executed at the reboot event |
| 12:03.03 | Zacaron | keep in mind that if for some reason Crontab service is down you wont get that list clear |
| 12:03.04 | KpuCko | but you can do it with 10 different ways |
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| 12:04.54 | KpuCko | if crontab service is down your problem about cleaning dhcp leases with be the latest you thinking about |
| 12:05.15 | KpuCko | i mean many of system services relays on crontab |
| 12:06.01 | Zacaron | ofc, I only want to point it out, to clear dependencies |
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| 12:06.35 | Zacaron | I dont know if he is talking about a PC, a switch or whatever |
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| 12:58.42 | EmleyMoor | I get frequent crashes of vlc, or even my whole system, while playing dashcam footage... any clues as to why? |
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| 13:01.36 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: sounds like a bug. fwiw, you should probably try with the latest vlc. reporting it in debian probably won't do much |
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| 13:06.46 | kdfshi | on debian jessie, calling xscreensaver-demo make me logout to my DM login |
| 13:06.53 | kdfshi | have you a clue why ? |
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| 13:08.27 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... the one I've got seems to be the latest |
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| 13:11.27 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: see https://wiki.videolan.org/Report_bugs/ then i guess |
| 13:12.04 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: you can report it against debian and include the relevant info |
| 13:12.17 | duelle | EmleyMoor: Do you see any error messages in dmesg or syslog when a system crash occurred? |
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| 13:13.01 | kdfshi | ,v xscreensaver |
| 13:13.02 | judd | Package: xscreensaver on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 5.15-3+deb7u1; wheezy: 5.15-3+deb7u1; jessie-security: 5.30-1+deb8u1; jessie: 5.30-1+deb8u2; jessie-updates: 5.30-1+deb8u2; stretch: 5.34-2; sid: 5.34-2 |
| 13:14.22 | EmleyMoor | nkuttler: OK... |
| 13:14.46 | EmleyMoor | duelle: No... in fact, the problem is I stop seeing anything at all |
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| 13:16.44 | duelle | EmleyMoor: afaik there should be remaining logs from the crash after rebooting. |
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| 13:17.21 | EmleyMoor | duelle: Yes. Logging just comes to an end. There's nothing unusual, apart from the fact it ceases. |
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| 13:20.30 | jelly | kdfshi: maybe it tried to run an opengl saver and your 3d drivers are somewhat buggy |
| 13:20.43 | duelle | EmleyMoor: Same picture when just VLC crashes? No messages at all? Can you reproduce the crashes? Perhaps you could start VLC with some additional log output. |
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| 13:21.06 | jelly | kdfshi: inspect your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and ~/.xsession-errors near the time X crashed (and *dm restarted) |
| 13:21.11 | EmleyMoor | Not reproducable, too random. |
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| 13:21.56 | EmleyMoor | Maybe additional log output would help, will look into that |
| 13:22.26 | duelle | EmleyMoor: One approach could be to open vlc with some more verbose output by default. So you may have more details in case a crash occurs. |
| 13:22.44 | EmleyMoor | Yes, will consider that |
| 13:22.45 | duelle | That probably would not hurt in the usual usage. |
| 13:24.50 | duelle | EmleyMoor: Another thing you could try: Disable hardware decoding in Input/Codecs->Video codecs->FFmpeg. |
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| 13:26.25 | EmleyMoor | duelle: Just made that change - will see what happens |
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| 13:26.35 | duelle | Good luck, EmleyMoor |
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| 13:28.47 | indistylo | HI, I accidentally put exit 0 in .bashrc, I have tried scp ;rsync ; --norc ; sshfs; --no profile |
| 13:28.49 | indistylo | Kindly suggest the solution |
| 13:29.11 | EmleyMoor | indistylo: Can you log in as root? |
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| 13:29.35 | indistylo | no |
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| 13:31.13 | EmleyMoor | Have you got a good .bashrc on another machine you could scp over? |
| 13:31.53 | duelle | indistylo: Can you do a rescue boot to fix it? |
| 13:32.02 | Zacaron | maybe you can init in recue mode? |
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| 13:35.52 | EmleyMoor | At worst, boot something like grml... |
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| 13:38.22 | indistylo | EmleyMoor: scp executes .bashrc and exits before it connects |
| 13:38.57 | indistylo | duelle: Zacaron: cant boot in rescue mode as it is a ec2 instance |
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| 13:41.25 | Zacaron | is the only instace you have? |
| 13:41.48 | Zacaron | maybe you can launch a micro instance, attach the drive of your bad instance to it |
| 13:42.01 | Zacaron | and then modify .bashrc |
| 13:42.21 | Zacaron | ofc, reattach that drive to your original instance |
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| 13:44.48 | Zacaron | http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ebs-attaching-volume.html |
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| 13:57.01 | indistylo | its an instant store so it can't be detached |
| 13:59.19 | Zacaron | what does "instant store" means? |
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| 14:01.12 | fralex16 | hello |
| 14:01.26 | fralex16 | I'd like to install linux on my laptop but don't know which one is the right one |
| 14:01.58 | fralex16 | anyone that could please help me |
| 14:02.16 | Zacaron | what do you want to do with it? |
| 14:02.19 | duelle | fralex16: What is your intended use and do you have experience with Linux OSs already? |
| 14:02.58 | fralex16 | i use it as everyday use. Navigation, office, browsing |
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| 14:03.09 | fralex16 | Just some experienced with chromium |
| 14:03.55 | fralex16 | I have Windows 10 but it's quite slow |
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| 14:04.29 | duelle | fralex16: To just play around a bit you could use a Ubuntu Live DVD/USB drive. |
| 14:04.31 | fralex16 | the laptop has an intel i3 processor and 4gb or ram |
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| 14:04.47 | duelle | To get a first impression and check whether everything works what you need, |
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| 14:05.25 | fralex16 | ok, so I just download the iso and make a bootable usb? |
| 14:05.42 | fralex16 | is there a specific Ubuntu? |
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| 14:06.00 | abrotman | fralex16: ask #ubuntu oddly |
| 14:06.25 | fralex16 | ok |
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| 14:06.45 | duelle | There are several flavors with different window managers. |
| 14:06.48 | qwebirc75638 | ubunutu for niggers |
| 14:09.01 | fralex16 | oh ok, I've done some research but most of the distros are recommended for pc's, that's why I'm confused |
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| 14:11.07 | duelle | fralex16: Debian is more focused on stability and therefor does not use that cutting edge packages. Ubuntu is a more current and (imho) would be a way to start to see wether everything works as you would prefer it to have. |
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| 14:11.39 | duelle | Also because there is the Live"CD" feature you don't have to install in the first place to just have a look |
| 14:11.59 | fralex16 | ok |
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| 14:13.45 | fralex16 | I thank you for your help duelle |
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| 14:21.18 | jhutchins | duelle: I think you're in the wrong channel, this is #debian, not #ubuntu. |
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| 14:21.51 | jhutchins | frankie: debian has live images as well, and hybrid images that can do an install (if it's not an EFI system). |
| 14:21.54 | jhutchins | !live |
| 14:21.54 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. See also <live firmware>. Currently you CANNOT install in <UEFI> mode from a Debian Live image. |
| 14:22.25 | jhutchins | frankie: Debian encourages learning and becoming involved with the system a bit more than some other distributions. |
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| 14:23.11 | duelle | jhutchins: So do I have to recommend Debian for everything just because I am in this channel? I like debian very much, but rather as a server os. Just my personal opinion. |
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| 14:37.58 | stephanie92 | Does anyone have experience upgrading IPMI firmware? |
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| 14:38.02 | stephanie92 | Just have a few questions |
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| 14:42.11 | hellyeah | is there a command to convert mp4 to mp3? |
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| 14:44.29 | jhutchins | hellyeah: It's not really that simple. I believe you can transcode, but mp4 is not just a different version of mp3, they are different things altogether. |
| 14:44.41 | hellyeah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-H8CULgRwg |
| 14:44.43 | hellyeah | ops |
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| 14:45.05 | hellyeah | youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 -l |
| 14:45.13 | hellyeah | this command helps me to do that probably |
| 14:45.39 | jhutchins | hellyeah: Ok, that's not "converting", that's extracting. |
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| 14:46.19 | hellyeah | i imagine there is a command for converting mp4 to mp3 |
| 14:46.25 | hellyeah | but anyway this works too |
| 14:46.37 | foocraft | ffmpeg does that, iirc |
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| 14:47.23 | jhutchins | hellyeah: You can't really convert mp4 to mp3, they are different things. |
| 14:48.51 | hellyeah | encoding is different? |
| 14:49.08 | hellyeah | i remember like ffmpeg should do that |
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| 14:49.49 | Joost | how would I go about downgrading a pcakage without removing packages that depend on it? |
| 14:50.00 | Fjorgynn | anyone here got an android phone and knows how to successfully mount it? |
| 14:50.10 | Joost | i.e. I have a package from backports that I want to roll back to stable, but if I simply apt-get remove, it deletes half my system |
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| 14:55.22 | RoyK | hellyeah: yes, ffmpeg does transcoding |
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| 15:06.32 | namix | ive a problem with debian 8 und squid + sarg: SARG: Cannot get the modification time of input log file /var/log/squid3/access.log (No such file or directory). Processing it anyway | SARG: File not found: /var/log/squid3/access.log |
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| 15:08.04 | namix | but /var/log/squid3/access.log exists and is owned by proxy:proxy with r:rw and o=, and the standard cronjob in /etc/cron.daily/sarg works as root |
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| 15:08.14 | namix | knows anyone about the problem? |
| 15:08.41 | nkuttler | namix: well, does /var/log/squid3/access.log exist? |
| 15:08.49 | namix | nkuttler: yes, it exists |
| 15:09.02 | nkuttler | namix: and does the user running sarg have +r access? |
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| 15:09.56 | namix | namix: in the cronjob is no user entry, so it works with root, except in the source code is a different user |
| 15:10.02 | namix | nkuttler: |
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| 15:10.26 | nkuttler | i'm not sure what that means |
| 15:10.53 | namix | nkuttler: the cronjob works as root and the file is there |
| 15:11.12 | namix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:12.50 | toogley | hey. i have a rewritable dvd which i want to burn a iso image to. but when i do, some errors occur: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/419873/27985147/ is my dvd unusable? |
| 15:13.08 | toogley | using bs=1 hasn't solved the issue |
| 15:13.29 | socomm | FEDORA!!! |
| 15:13.43 | toogley | socomm: yes :P |
| 15:13.58 | socomm | toogley: i/o error could be the medium or could be the writer |
| 15:14.16 | socomm | do you have another dis(k|c) to test with? |
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| 15:14.59 | toogley | socomm: yeah. hm, i think i can't get around testing another one. hm |
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| 15:19.43 | socomm | toogley: also, check for scratches or smudges on the disk |
| 15:21.08 | toogley | socomm: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/419885/47282954/ - i've used a brand new dvd. my image i want to write is only about 400 mb big, therefore i have trouble understanding the error message |
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| 15:21.52 | stoned | jhutchins: yes you can, and you you often need to. |
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| 15:22.09 | stoned | jhutchins: youtube videos are usually mp4 files and you must extract audio out of it and save as mp3 |
| 15:22.24 | stoned | It's a valid usecase. youtube-dl does it automatically |
| 15:22.50 | socomm | toogley: you sure this is a blank DVD? also, make sure you're using correct device |
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| 15:23.15 | stoned | MP4 is a media container format used to store media of many possible types on a computer. Therefore, an MP3 file is limited with regard to the method of compression and can only store audio. MP4 on the other hand, can store video as well as audio. It can even store subtitles for a video file. |
| 15:23.24 | erm3nda | videos are fully downloaded then auto-deleted untill you said the oppossite |
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| 15:23.40 | stoned | A container format is not the same as a compressed audio format. |
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| 15:24.09 | toogley | socomm: well, the dvd was brand new (i.e. plastics around) /dev/cdrom results in the same error. how do i make sure to use the correct device? |
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| 15:25.51 | stoned | toogley: that's now how you write iso images to optical media. |
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| 15:26.11 | stoned | toogley: you need dvd recording software in linux |
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| 15:26.28 | toogley | stoned: .. i can't make that with dd? |
| 15:26.36 | stoned | No |
| 15:27.19 | stoned | ,v bashburn |
| 15:27.20 | judd | Package: bashburn on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.0.1-2~deb7u1; stretch: 3.0.1-2; sid: 3.0.1-2; jessie: 3.0.1-2 |
| 15:27.25 | stoned | Try this. |
| 15:27.29 | stoned | Or wodim |
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| 15:27.45 | stoned | ,v wodim |
| 15:27.46 | judd | Package: wodim on amd64 -- wheezy: 9:1.1.11-2; stretch: 9:1.1.11-3; jessie: 9:1.1.11-3; sid: 9:1.1.11-3 |
| 15:27.52 | stoned | Yeah, you're golden. |
| 15:27.59 | stoned | Don't use dd. Use one of these programs instead. |
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| 15:29.43 | toogley | stoned: technical curiosity: why can't i use dd for that? |
| 15:30.05 | stoned | Unsure. Some report it works, some report it spins the dvd drive inifinitely, some it fails, like yours. |
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| 15:30.19 | stoned | I haven't looked into it, I can't exactly say why. I know that from experience it fails for me too. |
| 15:30.25 | stoned | s/fails/failed* |
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| 15:32.47 | toogley | stoned: kk |
| 15:32.53 | stoned | toogley: http://www.andrews-corner.org/burning.html |
| 15:32.54 | toogley | stoned: thx for the tip. |
| 15:32.57 | stoned | check this for a min |
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| 15:34.55 | jhutchins | toogley: A CD/DVD is not a block device, it uses a different storage format. |
| 15:35.01 | erm3nda | toogley, ur writting an iso to a partition, maybe there's no space left at all |
| 15:35.22 | erm3nda | bs= is not required at all to do raw pastes between iso and device |
| 15:36.00 | erm3nda | sudo dd if=systemrescuecd-x86-4.8.1.iso of=/dev/sr .... sr0 will be first partition, maybe you want to just use /dev/sr |
| 15:36.01 | jhutchins | toogley: dd, cp, and other filecopy commands work with block devices; hd's, floppies, and flash drives are block devices. |
| 15:36.32 | erm3nda | u can also use disks utitity, that has an option to write an iso to |
| 15:36.47 | jhutchins | toogley: http://www.cdrfaq.org/ |
| 15:36.51 | erm3nda | i do use dd for usb drives with no clue |
| 15:37.00 | toogley | `ryban: ah, right. that could be the reason |
| 15:37.05 | toogley | jhutchins: ^ |
| 15:37.16 | toogley | ehm. erm3nda ^ |
| 15:37.49 | toogley | anyways, i'm currently using xfburn. to be sure :D |
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| 15:37.51 | jhutchins | toogley: No, it's not a partitioned device, it's not a block device, it uses a different data format. |
| 15:38.32 | socomm | bashburn, sounds like a good hacker handle |
| 15:38.47 | jhutchins | toogley: It's more like a single linear stream, since it was originally developed to store music. |
| 15:38.57 | MrKeuner | Hi, Jessie here with gnome-shell... middle button doesn't send the window to back, is it a setting somewhere, or no longer supported? |
| 15:39.01 | stoned | iso9660 |
| 15:39.13 | MrKeuner | middle button sends the Google Chrome window back though |
| 15:39.27 | stoned | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660#Overall_structure |
| 15:39.33 | toogley | jhutchins: ah, okay |
| 15:39.41 | toogley | jhutchins: thx. |
| 15:39.47 | toogley | well thanks debian :D |
| 15:40.02 | stoned | I knew it had something to do with format, but I didn't want to say b/c I wasn't sure. |
| 15:40.20 | jhutchins | That CDR faq is pretty much EVERYTHING there is to know about iso9660 and related info. |
| 15:40.26 | stoned | Then again, I haven't burned anything since... 2008~ish |
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| 15:41.02 | stoned | I don't like statements like that. |
| 15:41.28 | appas | near the subject... if i buy a bigger disk for my laptop, can i just dd the old one to an intermediary disk, then dd again to the new disk, and expect it to work (using a live boot usb)? |
| 15:41.40 | stoned | There is information to be found in many places. |
| 15:41.52 | stoned | It's like the religious, this is our CDR bible, you must follow this. |
| 15:42.20 | stoned | Everythign is in here. Like the Quran. A universal guide book for all thigns CDR. |
| 15:42.22 | stoned | Meh. |
| 15:43.03 | jhutchins | Heh - faq was last updated in 2010 - not much is changing these days. I don't think it covers BRD. |
| 15:43.18 | stoned | :) |
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| 15:44.20 | stoned | toogley: why are you burning a DVD? |
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| 15:50.57 | ksft | my system clock isn't correct |
| 15:51.03 | ksft | it's several hours ahead |
| 15:51.11 | ksft | the minutes are correct |
| 15:51.16 | greycat | Is your timezone correct? |
| 15:51.17 | arha | tzselect |
| 15:51.19 | ksft | yes |
| 15:51.30 | ksft | tzselect reports the incorrect hour for my timezone |
| 15:51.31 | greycat | Do you dual-boot with Windows on the same machine? |
| 15:51.34 | ksft | yes |
| 15:51.45 | ksft | I don't use it, though, and I haven't for a while |
| 15:51.56 | greycat | If Windows is storing the time in local instead of UTC, then you probably need to tell Linux to expect the time to be in local. |
| 15:52.04 | arha | windows saves local time to clock, debian stores UTC |
| 15:52.08 | ksft | ohh |
| 15:52.11 | arha | ^ what greycat says |
| 15:52.18 | ksft | the time tzselect reports as UTC is the correct local time |
| 15:52.30 | ksft | how do I fix it? |
| 15:52.31 | greycat | And I used to know how to do that before systemd came along. |
| 15:53.35 | greycat | !utc |
| 15:53.36 | dpkg | Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is the standard by which the world regulates clocks and time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time). For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later, set "UTC" or "LOCAL" in /etc/adjtime (man 8 hwclock). For Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", set the UTC option in /etc/default/rcS appropriately (man rcs). For all systems, run «service hwclock.sh restart» to apply changes. See also <windows utc>. |
| 15:53.40 | toogley | stoned: because i want to format a harddrive to install windows. :P |
| 15:53.46 | greycat | I don't know if that's correct for jessie. You can try it. |
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| 15:53.51 | toogley | stoned: (my grandma wants it so) |
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| 15:56.30 | ksft | "Failed to restart hwclock.service: Unit hwclock.service is masked." |
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| 15:57.01 | thermal | hi, need help with the iwlwifi firmware |
| 15:57.05 | stoned | toogley: but you don't have a spare USB drive? |
| 15:57.09 | stoned | thumbsick/flash thingy |
| 15:57.56 | stoned | You can even install debian directly from windows, w/o needing a usb/cd dvd. |
| 15:58.08 | stoned | That's more complicated though. |
| 15:58.11 | stoned | Just slightly. |
| 15:58.54 | stoned | Goodbye microsoft doesn't work on new windows machiens though, which means grub won't work, and grub 2 is probably a hassle on windows (in my experience) |
| 15:59.07 | stoned | Neogrub works just like it should (legacy grub for windows) |
| 15:59.23 | stoned | It's all in the install guide. |
| 15:59.30 | stoned | Not neogrub, but grub. |
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| 16:01.42 | stoned | Oh, I misread again. You're installing windows? |
| 16:01.46 | stoned | You suck! :) |
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| 16:03.54 | NutsNBolts | is there a debian kernel which has support for amdgpu for sea islands series activated? |
| 16:04.13 | toogley | stoned: sry, i was afk^^ . the situation is: i install currently windows, yes. the dvd burning situation is solved, xfburn helped. i think i understand dvd/dd not good enough to use dd to burn things :D |
| 16:04.31 | toogley | stoned: and no problem for misreading, i do that also all the time. :D |
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| 16:04.42 | stoned | But I am stoned. I should not be misreading. |
| 16:04.48 | stoned | Well, right now I am not stoned. |
| 16:04.50 | stoned | Bye bye. |
| 16:05.05 | toogley | stoned: bye. :) |
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| 16:05.12 | SKYRAN | stoned: BYE |
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| 16:12.32 | mtcj | I've done some testing with LTSP chroots. I'd like to use the same chroot for several clients, some of which benefit from proprietary graphics drivers. I had hoped to use lts.conf to accomplish this but after adding both graphics drivers I find that the desktop environment crashes on both clients. |
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| 16:14.35 | mtcj | Would anyone like to brainstorm with me? |
| 16:14.47 | appas | mtcj: shoot |
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| 16:15.49 | mtcj | what are your initial thoughts or questions based on my initial description? |
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| 16:17.03 | soee_ | what the easiest way to install java on debian based VPS ? |
| 16:17.06 | appas | oops, i didn't realize you'd already laid the groundwork. i've no idea about this subject matter, sorry |
| 16:17.15 | appas | soee_: apt ;) |
| 16:17.54 | soee_ | appas: but there is not java in default repos right? |
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| 16:18.47 | appas | soee_: there is the icedtea jre |
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| 16:19.16 | mtcj | packages.debian.org would be a resource to see which Java options there are and if they're in contrib. |
| 16:19.50 | mtcj | You can also check out openjdk and openjre. I don't know what Debian has off the top of my head. |
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| 16:30.24 | ksft | I have Ubuntu and Debian installed on my computer. |
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| 16:30.36 | ksft | Ubuntu is on /dev/sda8, and Debian is on /dev/sda10. |
| 16:30.46 | ksft | How do I get the files from the Ubuntu partiton in Debian? |
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| 16:31.33 | mtn | ksft: use the file manager and click on the ubuntu partition.or use the Disks tool to mount it first |
| 16:31.53 | ksft | what's the Disks tool? |
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| 16:32.30 | ksft | oh, nevermind, I got it |
| 16:32.31 | digdilem | or on the command line, something like: "mount /dev/sda8 /mnt" and it should mount the ubuntu files into /mnt while you're in debian |
| 16:33.28 | ktchk | debian run remastersys? |
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| 17:47.07 | jhutchins | ksft: Be careful about copying things other than data from Ubuntu though. The systems may look a lot alike but they're different and copying binaries or libs can break them. |
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| 17:58.09 | rafalcpp | when connected via ssh, how to tell system to perform an almost-full reboot, that is, restart all services (e.g. to reload them after lib version security upgrade)? |
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| 17:59.49 | petn-randall | rafalcpp: You can install "needrestart", and it will tell you which services need restarting, and offer to do that. |
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| 18:00.25 | petn-randall | rafalcpp: When installed, it automatically runs after a package update, but you can also run it by hand. |
| 18:01.10 | rafalcpp | petn-randall: cool. is it guaranteed to not actually reboot computer? what about kernel updates? |
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| 18:04.19 | rafalcpp | -r l looks good |
| 18:05.00 | petn-randall | rafalcpp: You can verify it via its manpage. |
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| 18:14.56 | tgunr | Having a problem with apt-get install, when the post script runs trying to use adduser, the systems hangs. Tacked it down to `/root/bin/adduser --system --group --home /nonexistent --no-create-home --gecos Dovecot login user --disabled-password --quiet dovenull' which is asking for desired username when it is already specified. |
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| 18:15.34 | tgunr | Why is Jessie doing this to me? |
| 18:16.02 | meowshwitz | /root/bin/adduser? |
| 18:16.29 | tgunr | thats what is being called from the package |
| 18:16.49 | tgunr | `/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/dovecot-core.postinst configure' |
| 18:17.26 | meowshwitz | durr |
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| 18:17.54 | tgunr | looking in the script it uses `adduser' |
| 18:18.06 | tgunr | doh! |
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| 18:18.09 | tgunr | i see it! |
| 18:18.55 | tgunr | sometimes can't see the forect for trees |
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| 18:19.26 | meowshwitz | should be useradd, and the gecos argument should be escaped |
| 18:19.35 | tgunr | I had transferred over an old setup which add a bin folder |
| 18:19.46 | hiya | does automatic detection of date/time (by network access) works by default in Debian? |
| 18:19.49 | hiya | when we connect to a vpn etc, then why does not the time / data settings change automatically even if it is set to automatic? |
| 18:20.19 | jhutchins | tgunr: WHat release are you on? |
| 18:20.43 | jhutchins | tgunr: Sounds like syntax might have changed and the dovecot package didn't update (or vice versa). |
| 18:20.53 | tgunr | `[pve]/root/usr/bin (508): cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:20.53 | tgunr | 8.5' |
| 18:21.38 | jhutchins | tgunr: I have had version/package problems with dovecot before - another distro managed to package it with an incompatible version of the config file. |
| 18:21.41 | meowshwitz | tgunr: so its using a wrong binary? |
| 18:22.01 | meowshwitz | in sid, adduser is invoked from $PATH |
| 18:22.10 | tgunr | correct, removing the culpit and trying again |
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| 18:22.37 | meowshwitz | also the gecos parameter is escaped |
| 18:22.37 | petn-randall | hiya: What do your timezone settings have to do with VPN? |
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| 18:23.30 | petn-randall | hiya: If you want your system clock to be updated via the internet, you need to install something like ntpdate, ntpd, or chrony. |
| 18:23.40 | tgunr | meowshwitz yep, that was the problem, had ~/bin in front |
| 18:23.49 | petn-randall | hiya: To change you timezone, you need to run 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata'. |
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| 18:24.08 | tgunr | isn't ntp on by default? |
| 18:24.25 | meowshwitz | I hope not |
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| 18:24.42 | tgunr | guess not, just checked this box |
| 18:24.44 | petn-randall | tgunr: It's only "on" if you installed it. |
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| 18:24.49 | tgunr | cc |
| 18:25.06 | jhutchins | tgunr: ntp can be done by systemd now. |
| 18:25.35 | tgunr | I haven't transitioned to systemd yet |
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| 18:27.57 | hiya | petn-randall, so even after installing those packages the time won't automatically change as per the IP of the VPN? |
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| 18:28.24 | petn-randall | hiya: No OS does that. I don't understand why it should do that, either. |
| 18:28.50 | hiya | petn-randall, because even if you are on a VPN, you are going to leak time zone |
| 18:28.58 | hiya | doileak.com shows it and many others |
| 18:28.59 | meowshwitz | how are you going to leak time zone |
| 18:29.26 | petn-randall | hiya: Take a wiper and mop it up then. |
| 18:29.27 | hiya | via Web browser or bittorrent client |
| 18:29.42 | petn-randall | hiya: Which distro are you using? |
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| 18:29.58 | hiya | I am using Jessie? |
| 18:30.05 | hiya | Debian GNU/Linux |
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| 18:31.02 | hiya | petn-randall, What do you mean which distro in Debian channel? |
| 18:31.03 | hiya | :P |
| 18:31.03 | meowshwitz | hiya: if that is a real concern for you then a trivial hack can be applied to solve it |
| 18:31.14 | hiya | meowshwitz, ok sir? kindly recommend |
| 18:31.21 | jelly | "set the TZ to UTC" |
| 18:31.32 | meowshwitz | ^ |
| 18:31.41 | hiya | :P |
| 18:31.46 | hiya | Awesome |
| 18:31.50 | hiya | I love it |
| 18:31.51 | hiya | :P |
| 18:32.24 | jelly | if you're THAT paranoid, you are already making lots of other choices towards security and against usability |
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| 18:33.01 | jelly | at that point setting the TZ inside a VM isn't a whole lot of inconvenience at all |
| 18:33.46 | petn-randall | hiya: Maybe you want to use Tails instead? |
| 18:35.14 | hiya | jelly, but changing it to UTC would cause issues right? |
| 18:35.45 | jelly | !TIAS |
| 18:35.45 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
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| 18:36.36 | hiya | jelly, but should i make it UTC only? Or UTC +/- my country? |
| 18:36.44 | hiya | ah it makes no sense it I do so |
| 18:37.25 | meowshwitz | or you could just.. not do any of that |
| 18:37.27 | jelly | if you have to ask that question I have to assume you're not even aware what "leaking the timezone" means |
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| 18:37.40 | hiya | :P |
| 18:37.43 | hiya | Sorry sorry |
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| 18:38.25 | jelly | if you CARE about not exposing the value, then you PROBABLY don't want to set it to the correct value, don't you think |
| 18:38.44 | jelly | you wan to set it to the most common, or the most neutral value. UTC is the latter. |
| 18:38.59 | meowshwitz | in point of fact, if you are manipulating it you are creating a discernible pattern by which you can be identified |
| 18:39.33 | jelly | if you're asking whether to set it to your country's value.. well, it's already set that way and YOU said you don't want that info to be exposed |
| 18:39.36 | croddy | i recommend setting your wristwatch, cell phone, etc. to UTC also |
| 18:39.56 | croddy | the only confusing part is that the date changes in the middle of the day, but you'll get used to that after 5-10 years. |
| 18:40.21 | jelly | or, instead of being a paranoid git, you could read Schneier and try to assess risk in a SANE manner |
| 18:41.12 | meowshwitz | I'm reading Applied Cryptography right now and really enjoying it |
| 18:41.22 | hiya | Cannot I make the time zone set itself, based on the IP of the VPN I connect to? |
| 18:41.29 | hiya | network time don't work like this? |
| 18:41.31 | jelly | (and if you need a secure machine, it probably ought to be air gapped and _never_ come in contact with a default debian install) |
| 18:41.32 | meowshwitz | I thought I grokked public key cryptography.. but I don't |
| 18:41.40 | petn-randall | jelly: No, but I'm using Kali and I don't want to give the NSA hints where to send the ICBMs. |
| 18:41.40 | meowshwitz | hiya: write a post-connect script |
| 18:41.53 | jelly | petn-randall: they already know! |
| 18:42.14 | hiya | ok thanks man |
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| 18:43.12 | meowshwitz | hiya: also bear in mind that some applications would have their internal clock in which case they'd need to be restarted |
| 18:43.46 | meowshwitz | really more pain than its worth |
| 18:43.55 | DeaDSouL | this is my first time reading the debian-handbook... and there are lots and lots of vvv-useful information.. it's really a must-read-book for debian's users.. thanks debian-team :) |
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| 18:44.11 | hiya | meowshwitz, I am still confused how Automatic Time Zone would work then which requires internet access, and where is the configuration file for it, in case we wish to tweak it |
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| 18:45.15 | petn-randall | DeaDSouL: It's really a good ressource. Consider contributing back or thanking the author(s) if you feel like it. |
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| 18:45.36 | DeaDSouL | hiya: have you looked at the debian-handbook? check: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/sect.config-misc.en.html |
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| 18:46.33 | jelly | meowshwitz: timezones should never change or affect internal state of an app or service timer. They are solely a convenience for humans, that is, output formatting. |
| 18:47.00 | jelly | if you've seen an app that <meowshwitz> hiya: also bear in mind that some applications would have their internal clock in which case they'd need to be restarted |
| 18:47.03 | jelly | ... file a bug report. |
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| 18:48.20 | DeaDSouL | petn-randall: indeed.. I'm going to get the paperback one :) |
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| 18:51.24 | hiya | jelly, ok |
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| 18:53.22 | isaac1 | struggling to install jdk |
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| 18:53.49 | isaac1 | sudo apt-get install -f openjdk-7-jdk |
| 18:53.53 | isaac1 | gives me: |
| 18:54.03 | isaac1 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 18:54.05 | isaac1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.07 | isaac1 | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 18:54.09 | isaac1 | What shall I do? |
| 18:54.52 | DeaDSouL | isaac1: try `aptitude install jdk` |
| 18:55.01 | jelly | !bat |
| 18:55.01 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 18:55.07 | petn-randall | ,v openjdk-7-jre |
| 18:55.08 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jre on amd64 -- wheezy: 7u95-2.6.4-1~deb7u1; jessie: 7u101-2.6.6-2~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 7u111-2.6.7-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1; experimental: 7u111-2.6.7-1 |
| 18:55.11 | DeaDSouL | isaac1: I mean: `aptitude install openjdk-7-jdk` |
| 18:55.28 | jelly | isaac1: run apt-get update, try again, if it fails provide ALL of the information dpkg listed above. |
| 18:56.03 | jelly | and don't listen to DeaDSouL, probably |
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| 18:56.28 | DeaDSouL | isaac1: `aptitude` has a better solutions suggestions algorithm |
| 18:56.47 | petn-randall | DeaDSouL: That's not the problem, though. |
| 18:57.02 | jelly | > Couldn't find any package whose name is "jdk", |
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| 18:57.15 | jelly | DeaDSouL: do try not to invent things when helping people |
| 18:57.26 | DeaDSouL | jelly: lol, why? it always suggests solutions for me.. downgrade things, removing things... etc |
| 18:57.33 | ksft | did someone ping me here a little while ago? |
| 18:57.34 | ksft | my IRC client broke, so I didn't see it |
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| 18:58.45 | WormFood | How do I force debian to load a specific driver for a specific USB ID? It appears the hardware is supported by the drivers, but the driver is not aware of this specific ID. I just need to force it to associate a specific driver for this usb ID...hopefully dynamically, without recompiling the module. How do I achieve this in debian stable? |
| 18:58.50 | jelly | DeaDSouL: meant the nonexisting package |
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| 18:59.07 | bibble | hiya, you're are trying to hide the server time from nginx and rtorrent users ? |
| 18:59.14 | trimosier | isaac1, it sounds dumb but did you do apt-get update before trying to install the jdk? |
| 18:59.53 | cdb23ax | hello can someone help me out? i am running a debian linux server with a E5-2623 v3 @ 3.00GHz cpu and i only run one gameserver its a cs go dedicated server with 1 player and 9 bots. the cpu usage goes up to 100% and its bad performance |
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| 19:00.27 | jelly | cdb23ax: 100% of one core, or 100% of all cores? |
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| 19:01.40 | jelly | cdb23ax: run "top", press 1 so that all cores are seen in the header, then pastebin a sample screen |
| 19:02.15 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 19:03.02 | tobiasBora | I would like to buy a Wifi Card, connecting with Mini PCI Express, that support bluetooth 4.0, wifi b,g,b |
| 19:03.17 | tobiasBora | and *which is well supported on Linux*. |
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| 19:03.49 | tobiasBora | Do you have a good wifi card for that ? |
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| 19:06.41 | cdb23ax | jelly: http://pastebin.com/yVU0FSQG |
| 19:06.59 | jhutchins | tobiasBora: The problem is that many manufacturers change the chipsets without changing the models, so what worked well last month suddenly doesn't. |
| 19:07.18 | jhutchins | tobiasBora: The best you can do is buy it from a place that will let you return it if it doesn't work for you. |
| 19:07.33 | jelly | cdb23ax: so you have 7 cores idle, and about 94% of ONE core total used |
| 19:07.44 | jelly | fix your single-threaded app |
| 19:07.47 | jhutchins | Even Apple does this. |
| 19:07.56 | cdb23ax | i cant fix it |
| 19:08.11 | cdb23ax | its a valve dedicated server for counter-strike global offensive |
| 19:08.25 | jelly | then you bought a 4 core HT machine to have 75% of it idling all the time |
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| 19:08.54 | jelly | (or 87.5%, depending on whether you leave HT enabled or disable it) |
| 19:09.07 | cdb23ax | jelly: no i just disabled all services right now just to troubleshoot this issue with this one gameserver |
| 19:09.22 | cdb23ax | jelly: i have 2 cpus in and ht is already disabled in bios |
| 19:09.34 | jelly | there's no issue. You have an apparently single-threaded application, and it's using one core |
| 19:10.02 | hiya | bibble, no, I am trying to make network time work and get new time as per the Public IP of VPN exit |
| 19:10.07 | tobiasBora | jhutchins: Hum... Have you heard anything about Intel Centrino Wireless N 2230 ? |
| 19:10.12 | jelly | cdb23ax: ok, so then you have 8 actual cores, 4 in 2 sockets, only 1 can be used by a single-threaded app |
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| 19:10.33 | cdb23ax | i dont understand its clock speed is 3,5 ghz |
| 19:10.45 | cdb23ax | is this not enough for a simple gameserver with 1 player and 9 bots |
| 19:11.13 | cdb23ax | what do i need for that? i saw many gameservers with 9 bots and 1 player without any cpu problems |
| 19:11.56 | jelly | I don't want to delve into microoptimization, but the main issue is your app wasn't built to use more than one core |
| 19:12.02 | jhutchins | tobiasBora: Most intel stuff is pretty stable and well supported. |
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| 19:12.09 | tobiasBora | Ok thank you ! |
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| 19:12.56 | jhutchins | tobiasBora: The problem is that while there are databass that list connectivity, they rely on users to report their experience accurately - and unless someone's pulling their hair out trying to get it to work, they usually don't bother to go to the database. |
| 19:13.35 | jhutchins | tobiasBora: Microsoft has armies of paid employees (whether theirs or the manufacturers) that test and report compatibility. We don't. |
| 19:14.09 | jhutchins | tobiasBora: That said, the speed with which new hardware gets support in the kernel is really goood these days. |
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| 19:14.47 | jelly | cdb23ax: you could use taskset to force the gameserver process onto a single core, since that's all it can apparently use anyway |
| 19:15.08 | BinBasher | what does it mean when there's a red [security] sign next to a package name in packages.debian.org ? |
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| 19:15.17 | jelly | this is what I'd consider a microoptimization |
| 19:15.38 | jelly | BinBasher: can you show an URL with an example ? |
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| 19:17.36 | bibble | hiya: are you a code person too ? ..would be bash script to, enable ntp, wget ip location, link timezone file to /etc/timezone |
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| 19:24.17 | WormFood | echo VID PID > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/foo/new_id to answer my own question. |
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| 19:26.13 | jhutchins | cdb23ax: You might want to look through the valve forums and see if other people have dealt with this. There might be a different build for multi-core servers. |
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| 19:26.50 | cdb23ax | jhutchins: i did everything what i can read is that it only supports one core... |
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| 19:32.23 | paladox | Hi, microsoft seems to be blocking https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804548 links |
| 19:32.24 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/804548 in python-shade (closed): «python-shade: scm URL is invalid»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-11-09; last modified: 2016-01-30. |
| 19:32.38 | tobiasBora | Ok thank you ! |
| 19:32.47 | paladox | see screenshot at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F4426907 |
| 19:32.57 | mutante | "This Website has been reported as unsage. bugs.debian.org" |
| 19:32.59 | paladox | Internet Explorer and microsoft edge are blocking |
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| 19:33.06 | paladox | claming there are viruses on debian |
| 19:33.23 | mutante | i guess somebody should talk to MS |
| 19:33.50 | paladox | Ive already reported as incorrect but, why is microsoft saying debian has viruses? |
| 19:34.12 | paladox | But that was a few months ago i reported it as incorrect |
| 19:34.15 | paladox | and still nothing |
| 19:34.34 | digdilem | it's not blocking that on edge for me |
| 19:34.35 | mutante | paladox: you should try the debian "reportbug" tool and see if there is a category for bugs.debian.org itself |
| 19:34.36 | dutchfish | paladox, are you shure you are not behind a proxy? That might be a reason, not sure. |
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| 19:34.56 | paladox | dutchfish no pretty sure, i use bt. |
| 19:35.02 | paladox | British telecom. |
| 19:35.09 | paladox | broadband |
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| 19:35.12 | paladox | No proxy |
| 19:35.30 | paladox | But it claims This website has been reported to contain the following threats: |
| 19:35.30 | paladox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.30 | paladox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.30 | paladox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:35.58 | mutante | paladox: use a pastebin to avoid the cap |
| 19:36.04 | paladox | Sorry |
| 19:36.21 | greycat | I don't know what you expect us to do about it. |
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| 19:36.47 | paladox | https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P3966 |
| 19:37.10 | paladox | Just notifying you that microsoft thinks you have viruses. |
| 19:37.22 | paladox | It dosent think ubuntu is a virus |
| 19:37.39 | croddy | bugs.debian.org probably *does* contain links, somewhere here and there, to all kinds of things |
| 19:37.49 | mutante | yea, i wonder that too. but maybe to mail Microsoft and ask them if this is a false positive or what they consider the "threat" to be in more detail and if there is one to disclose it to the actual admins of the bugs server.. shrug |
| 19:37.51 | croddy | not that i would put it on the smartscreen list, i mean |
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| 19:38.17 | digdilem | like i said, it's not being blocked on edge for me at all. |
| 19:38.52 | mutante | can that be different because paladox is one some bleeding edge dev version of windows |
| 19:39.01 | mutante | afaict |
| 19:39.42 | mutante | paladox: gotta ask Microsoft why they added it |
| 19:39.47 | paladox | Do you have smartscreen on. |
| 19:39.52 | paladox | Yep, i trying to find out how |
| 19:40.28 | paladox | i guess i will just add it to https://github.com/microsoft/bashonwindows |
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| 19:40.54 | digdilem | paladox, yes smartscreen is turned on here. (it's on by default and this is literally the first thing i've loaded edge for) |
| 19:41.07 | paladox | Oh ok |
| 19:41.38 | digdilem | i'm also in the uk, but using a different isp, but that's probably not relevant |
| 19:41.56 | paladox | Ok |
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| 19:42.40 | petn-randall | hotmail also silently drops e-mails it thinks is spam, but who cares? It's more appropriate to discuss this on #debian-offtopic, though. |
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| 19:44.11 | paladox | Ok reported here https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/1044 |
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| 19:47.03 | crookedport | hi, could anyone help me with the sound, its stopped working all the sudden for no reason |
| 19:47.08 | crookedport | i have no idea what happened |
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| 19:47.22 | crookedport | i check the sound in pulse and found nothing |
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| 19:52.19 | dutchfish | crookedport, have you tried muting and unmuting it in the mixer? |
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| 19:52.57 | dionysus69 | I have teamviewer installed and I figured that theres also a teamviewer service which is quite active for some reason. |
| 19:52.57 | crookedport | dutchfish let me check |
| 19:53.09 | dutchfish | crookedport, sometimes (depending on hardware) a sound device may lockup |
| 19:53.22 | tom99 | dfdfdf |
| 19:53.27 | tom99 | what the hell is wrong with my irc client |
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| 19:55.49 | Livingroom | hello fellow Linux users. i have a question about FSTab: i have two disks listed in my fstab with the same mount point; both are attached via USB Drive dock. when one is there, the other will not be present. i have them entered as UUIDs, but unfortunately it does not mount the second drive, only trying the first, which is not present. what am i doing wrong? |
| 19:56.14 | ksft | hah |
| 19:56.17 | ksft | that makes so much more sense |
| 19:56.29 | ksft | "f s tab" |
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| 19:56.36 | ksft | I've always read it as "f stab" |
| 19:56.38 | Livingroom | lol |
| 19:56.49 | briansteffens | ^ same ksft :D |
| 19:56.53 | crookedport | dutchfish i tried but it is not working |
| 19:56.57 | crookedport | what else can i do |
| 19:57.00 | crookedport | ? |
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| 19:58.23 | dutchfish | crookedport, check if pulseaudio is working within your wm, or follow the debian wiki 'no sound' |
| 19:59.24 | dutchfish | crookedport, https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio | https://wiki.debian.org/SoundConfiguration |
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| 19:59.39 | dutchfish | need to reboot, a sec |
| 19:59.55 | crookedport | dutchfish thank you |
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| 20:02.50 | BinBasher | jelly: https://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/ gimp |
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| 21:17.59 | mtcj | How long has Debian been using a blue and grey theme for its desktop environments? (I'm assuming it uses them for all of them, if not the question is moot.) |
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| 21:19.34 | DeaDSouL | I'm going to travel for at least 3 months.. I'm wondering is there a secure way to access one of my home-network-machines in order to access the rest from it ? |
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| 21:21.23 | baraba | VPN? DeaDSouL |
| 21:22.00 | mtcj | What kind of stuff do you want access to on the home network? |
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| 21:22.16 | DeaDSouL | baraba: can you point me to a good guide please? |
| 21:23.19 | baraba | http://www.howtogeek.com/221001/how-to-set-up-your-own-home-vpn-server/ |
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| 21:24.09 | baraba | or you can just setup ssh server |
| 21:24.36 | DeaDSouL | baraba: thanks bro |
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| 21:25.04 | baraba | of course it depends what you really need, just files or something else |
| 21:25.31 | mtcj | I've been messing with LTSP lately. I don't know how much of it is applicable to non-LANs. |
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| 21:26.06 | mtcj | But if fat clients work over the Internet that could be a cool solution. |
| 21:26.23 | DeaDSouL | baraba: I have a ssh server... the thing is I don't want to let it accessable globally... found an iptables rule, to filter it only for one global ip... but I'm afraid I'm not going to have a static ip |
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| 21:27.32 | mtcj | Port knock that sucker DeaDSouL |
| 21:27.54 | baraba | just install something like denyhosts and you should be fine and what mtcj said |
| 21:28.18 | mtcj | thinks port knocking is damn cool |
| 21:28.18 | DeaDSouL | mtcj: i've already changed the ssh port... |
| 21:28.39 | mtcj | That wouldn't have a negative impact on port knocking |
| 21:29.14 | mtcj | Port knocking is where you have a client send a few packets to specified ports on the remote machine, and the remote machine does something |
| 21:29.38 | mtcj | For example temporarily open a port or allow a specific IP through a firewall |
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| 21:30.33 | mtcj | Best part is the remote machine doesn't need open ports. It all happens at a lower level. And the remote machine simply doesn't respond to incorrect port knocks. |
| 21:30.46 | mtcj | So it's kind of invisible. |
| 21:31.13 | baraba | it's like knock three time so we know it's you |
| 21:31.25 | apb | Debian 8.5; I'm having multiple issues... the first one is with apt-file update. Error messages and complete details here:http://paste.debian.net/804936/ |
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| 21:32.12 | mtcj | There are even port knocking daemons that use multiple knocks and invalidate them after one use etc. |
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| 21:33.35 | mtcj | apb: what is the issue, the server denied part or the no index found part? (If you know.) |
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| 21:36.22 | apb | mtcj: both. all. Someone else just told me that stable and wheezy don't go together. |
| 21:38.35 | mtcj | Ok |
| 21:38.47 | zykotick9 | apb: ahhh, i don't use apt-file, so i downloaded and then ran update, the first time it downloaded a bunch of stuff... now, upon re-running update, my output looks a lot like yours (but with jessie repos)... just sayin', good luck. |
| 21:39.32 | apb | mtcj: yeah, he gave me the 3 required lines for my /etc/apt/sources.list file and after aptitude update and apt-file update everything finished cleanly. |
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| 21:40.00 | mtcj | Cool |
| 21:40.05 | apb | nods |
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| 21:42.18 | apb | zykotick9: Here's the msg I got that fixed me: A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man |
| 21:42.19 | apb | sources.list". |
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| 21:47.54 | zykotick9 | apb: good ol' dpkg factoids ftw ;) |
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| 21:52.58 | mtcj | apb: So were you just using the wrong repos in sources.list? |
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| 22:26.42 | afernandez_ | hello: How do i see the command to be executed by the at command? |
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| 22:27.02 | RoyK | afernandez_: in the logs |
| 22:27.25 | afernandez_ | Which log would that be? |
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| 22:28.26 | afernandez_ | at -c jobnumber? |
| 22:28.36 | afernandez_ | would give me that? |
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| 22:29.05 | RoyK | afernandez_: /var/log/syslog |
| 22:29.32 | afernandez_ | Thanks |
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| 22:30.52 | afernandez_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.53 | afernandez_ | tail: cannot open `/var/log/syslog' for reading: No such file or directory |
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| 22:31.49 | RoyK | afernandez_: what distro/version? |
| 22:33.08 | afernandez_ | Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.11 (Tikanga) |
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| 22:33.25 | missmbob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:33.59 | afernandez_ | at is unioversal |
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| 22:34.03 | afernandez_ | no? |
| 22:34.04 | RoyK | afernandez_: hehehe - that's pretty old - check /var/log/messages ;) |
| 22:34.14 | afernandez_ | Thanks RoyK |
| 22:34.25 | missmbob | no. debian has it. who knows what redhat does |
| 22:34.25 | afernandez_ | redhat hast at |
| 22:34.26 | RoyK | afernandez_: log placement isn't universal |
| 22:34.27 | afernandez_ | has |
| 22:34.29 | missmbob | your system says no |
| 22:34.30 | afernandez_ | sorry brb |
| 22:35.19 | missmbob | afernandez_: better yet, dont come back. go to #rhel |
| 22:36.07 | RoyK | or #centos |
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| 23:16.59 | Aorious | Hi, on `sudo apt-get install steam`, terms and conditions must be accepted, from bash (via TAB, ENTER, DOWN, ENTER). Can this be automated? |
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| 23:18.28 | vook | with gnu expect it could be automated |
| 23:18.43 | mutante | Aorious: -y, --yes, --assume-yes |
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| 23:19.07 | Aorious | mutante, I have tried that too, it did not work. |
| 23:19.21 | mutante | aww, ok, worth a try, then "expect" like vook said |
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| 23:20.06 | mordocai | Using debian unstable firefox (but testing everything else) after the update firefox:amd64 (48.0-1, 48.0-1+b1) I get "NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY" on many https sites, including google and twitter. Thoughts besides using older firefox? |
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| 23:20.14 | vook | maybe even some pipe combo involving the 'yes' command and some echoes |
| 23:20.44 | Aorious | vook, Okay, how can this be automated?* |
| 23:22.15 | vook | Aorious: with expect, you'd need to program a little script - basically it would say something like 'expect "continue"', send '\n', expect "accept?" send 'y\r', etc. |
| 23:22.52 | mordocai | Looks like it is reported https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833719 |
| 23:22.53 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/833719 in firefox (open): «firefox: NS_ERROR_NET_INADEQUATE_SECURITY on Google & Facebook only with i386 build»; severity: important; opened: 2016-08-08; last modified: 2016-08-14. |
| 23:23.14 | vook | !expect |
| 23:23.30 | vook | http://expect.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 23:24.56 | Aorious | vook, Okay, I understand. Thanks. |
| 23:25.20 | mordocai | How do I generate the information that is in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833719 where it reports the version of firefox and all dependencies? |
| 23:25.35 | mordocai | I want to include in my reply, since i'm using a different version than the original reporter |
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| 23:31.45 | mordocai | I managed to get the info I wanted by doing reportbug firefox. |
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| 23:35.36 | brimonk | Does anyone have any experience setting up a PXE server to load a full operating system, and not just the installer? |
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| 23:45.47 | RoyK | brimonk: PXE will only give the client a bootup environment and leave it to the client to do its best with http or ftp or something from somewhere else |
| 23:46.36 | brimonk | So, it isn't really suited for much more than installation. |
| 23:47.36 | RoyK | it's built for installation - but you can probably use it to boot clients that have an NFS root or similar |
| 23:47.48 | RoyK | that has been useful earlier |
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| 23:48.12 | RoyK | but you really don't want to run an OS over TFTP |
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| 23:49.01 | brimonk | "clients that have an NFS root..." That's an interesting though... |
| 23:49.05 | RoyK | typical thin clients (in the unix era) usually use NFS to mount their roots and their OS |
| 23:49.07 | brimonk | How the heck would you manage that? |
| 23:49.17 | RoyK | google it |
| 23:53.16 | brimonk | I didn't think that it would be possible because you'd need to have nfs entries within /etc/fstab, or the exports file or whatever, right? |
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