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| 01:39.24 | nasuga | Can anyone else confirm torrent debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso varies from http debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso? (Torrent SHA1: 7839873eb779fb1f3f0a39a790d0fe6bdf6fbb73 vs HTTP SHA1: 447d74813eaf5172aab0d42e0d0c69d222f8e91e) |
| 01:41.58 | nasuga | HTTP iso verifies against signed checksum |
| 01:43.23 | jmcnaught | nasuga: they should be the same |
| 01:43.47 | nasuga | exactly why I'm asking for someone else to validate |
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| 01:44.48 | nasuga | I redownloaded torrent despite it passing bittorrent verification but it varies from signed checksums |
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| 01:47.34 | nasuga | Nevermind, there must be corruption on my end (247M vs 12M) |
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| 02:33.36 | slikts | how do I install neovim in jessie? |
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| 02:34.15 | slikts | aaand yet again I regret not being on ubuntu |
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| 02:35.54 | missmbob | you can still get ubuntu... |
| 02:36.01 | missmbob | ,checkbackport neovim |
| 02:36.05 | judd | Backporting package neovim in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libmsgpack-dev (>= 1.0.0), libnss-wrapper <!nocheck>, libtermkey-dev, libunibilium-dev, libvterm-dev, lua-busted <!nocheck>, lua-mpack, lua-nvim [amd64 armel armhf i386 mips mips64el mipsel powerpc ppc64el] <!nocheck>. |
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| 02:36.10 | missmbob | doesn't look good |
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| 02:39.24 | slikts | it just takes a lot of time to switch |
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| 02:40.12 | missmbob | if it's that important you could dist-upgrade to stretch |
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| 02:41.24 | missmbob | hell stretch is probably more "stable" than any ubuntu version |
| 02:42.10 | awal1 | +1 ^ |
| 02:42.13 | slikts | the only problems I've ever had with unstability were due to using dotdeb on debian |
| 02:42.43 | missmbob | yeah, no one should ever use that |
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| 03:00.21 | gosports | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:00.49 | gosports | German records for deaths at Auschwitz were 150,000 total from all nationalities, of which only 30,000 were listed as Jewish, so taking one fifth of 271,304 we come to a likely maximum Jewish death total in all camps of just over 54,000. |
| 03:00.54 | jmcnaught | !ops spam |
| 03:00.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: spam |
| 03:01.03 | gosports | From âThe Holocaust Hoax Exposed, by Victor Thorn pages 18-19. |
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| 03:09.49 | harlmee | B'nai Brith is a cancer in Canada that needs to be removed. 14 subscribers shows nobody is falling for your pathetic BS anymore. This professor is telling the truth but B'nai Brith tells nothing but lies. |
| 03:10.03 | harlmee | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6cDWR7U1HM |
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| 03:10.17 | harlmee | Alberta professor blames 9/11 on Israel, supports 'open debate' on Holocaust |
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| 03:15.58 | pingfloyd | is there any way to keep those Dunning-Kruger effect afflicted imbeciles out of here? |
| 03:17.38 | hawkings | pingfloyd, You mean the Holohoaxers? |
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| 03:19.09 | hawkings | https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Hoax-Exposed-Victor-Thorn/dp/1467506389 |
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| 03:23.30 | lucyharr | ""In Europe, scores of researchers have been imprisoned for merely questioning holocaust numbers or claims. They commited absolutely no crime whatsoever other than simply asking questions. For such an apparent offense, they were thrown behind bars for, sometimes, years at a time... Because a clandestine group of scriptwriters carefully crafted this elaborate hoax, should the rest of society be forced unwittingly accept it without argument just because they |
| 03:23.31 | lucyharr | said so?" https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Hoax-Exposed-Victor-Thorn/product-reviews/1467506389/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_srt?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=avp_only_reviews&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=helpful&pageNumber=1 |
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| 03:25.15 | baraba | wait for it |
| 03:26.00 | kcirick | How do I enable wpa_supplicant & dhclient to start on boot? Right now I have to launch them manually on boot |
| 03:26.10 | kcirick | (not using networkmanager or wicd) |
| 03:26.41 | jmcnaught | kcirick: have you configured your wlan in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 03:27.44 | kcirick | jmcnaught, I tried doing that at first but I couldn't get it to connect (gave me some error message which I dont remember now) |
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| 03:28.19 | somiaj | kcirick: there is a good article about how to load wpa_supplicant as a daemon using the interfaces file in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant somewhere. |
| 03:29.05 | kcirick | somiaj, thanks... I'll take a look |
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| 03:29.33 | jmcnaught | kcirick: there's also https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line which also has a wpa_supplicant section |
| 03:30.24 | dvs | yeah, use wpa-roam |
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| 03:32.21 | kcirick | jmcnaught, that's the one i tried to use, but when I put wpa_supplicant.conf in the /etc/network/interface file it gave me the error... I should try again |
| 03:33.08 | jmcnaught | kcirick: which ever way to end up trying to use it would be helpful if you put your /e/n/interfaces file and errors in a paste |
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| 03:39.26 | pingfloyd | auto in the stanza for interface in /etc/network/interfaces should be what gets the interface to be automatically brought up on start or when ifup -a is invoked. In turn that should invoke wpa_supplicant if you've configured it accordingly. |
| 03:40.17 | pingfloyd | I guess he left. SMH |
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| 06:43.05 | arvind | sound stopped working |
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| 06:44.55 | jmcnaught | arvind: while you were using the computer? |
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| 06:46.06 | arvind | jmcnaught, yeah, that is correct |
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| 06:48.06 | jmcnaught | arvind: which programs are open? are you using pulseaudio? did you check pavucontrol? |
| 06:48.30 | arvind | jmcnaught, in root it works - already messed arround with puavcontrol ( which was not installed ) |
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| 06:49.00 | wanqcrypt | sorry guys lol |
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| 06:49.33 | jmcnaught | arvind: > "in root it works" \ are you running X as root? how did you start it? |
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| 06:50.01 | arvind | jmcnaught, aplayer the asla sample in /usr share ; then i executed mpv some test file in my users home dir |
| 06:50.11 | arvind | ( not running x as root ) |
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| 06:52.05 | jmcnaught | arvind: what can happen with pulseaudio is you'll have all programs harmoniously using pulseaudio (and thus sharing the sound card) and then one older, legacy program uses ALSA instead of pulse, and hogs the sound card |
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| 06:53.40 | arvind | jmcnaught, dunno pulse audio was on the system just the pavcontrol not, i just fired up alsamixer in the console to see if i could use that as a means |
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| 06:56.36 | jmcnaught | arvind: most desktops in Debian use pulseaudio, but the pavucontrol package is optional |
| 06:58.15 | arvind | jmcnaught, maybe i should rm -rf some .dirs .files ; login-out-in |
| 06:58.27 | jmcnaught | arvind: uh what? |
| 06:58.47 | jmcnaught | arvind: make a test user |
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| 07:01.18 | jmcnaught | arvind: also i recommend, don't default to "rm -rf". drop the "f", use "rm -r" instead. You don't need to force everything, and sometimes those warnings save your neck |
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| 07:01.56 | jmcnaught | for troubleshooting, don't delete, move files to a different directory or rename them. |
| 07:02.06 | dsdeiz | hello all, curious if debian has a repository for their templates for packer |
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| 07:02.39 | jmcnaught | dsdeiz: is packer a program that you want to install on Debian? |
| 07:03.32 | dsdeiz | oh sorry, nope.. packer is a tool for creating vms and such |
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| 07:04.19 | jmcnaught | dsdeiz: oh and want Debian VM or VPS templates? |
| 07:04.28 | dsdeiz | yeah |
| 07:04.43 | jmcnaught | dsdeiz: can you use debootstrap? |
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| 07:05.21 | jmcnaught | i am not aware of any official Debian templates or VM images |
| 07:05.44 | dsdeiz | ok cool. thanks found this https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Cloud/VagrantBaseBoxes which might help me |
| 07:06.28 | dsdeiz | ahh nvm. found it now. thx! |
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| 07:06.47 | jmcnaught | dsdeiz: official debian templates? |
| 07:07.08 | dsdeiz | that's what i think it is.. https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/cloud/debian-vm-templates.git/tree/packer-virtualbox-vagrant |
| 07:08.16 | jmcnaught | dsdeiz: looks promising |
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| 07:10.49 | jmcnaught | dsdeiz: there's also https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud if you want some more context |
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| 07:12.11 | test__ | jmcnaught, still not working . I even added test user to the audio group |
| 07:12.30 | pylot | Hi, i want to do a multi card + multi head setup with 2 x Nvidia G210 + 3 itec usb (display link) (in total 7 screens) adapters and Xorg with Debian stretch... is that impossible or do i have the chance to get it running? |
| 07:12.46 | talin | is "sid" always the name of the unstable release? |
| 07:12.52 | pylot | talin: yes |
| 07:13.02 | jmcnaught | test__: are you still logged into any sessions from before the new user login? |
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| 07:13.20 | test__ | jmcnaught, I am logged in as the new user |
| 07:13.46 | test__ | ( rebooted ) but i enabled autologin for the user account where the pobrlem is |
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| 07:14.11 | Bmw-x1 | https://ng-developer.itch.io/nitrux |
| 07:14.44 | jmcnaught | !ops Bmw-x1 is spam |
| 07:14.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: Bmw-x1 is spam |
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| 07:15.13 | test__ | jmcnaught, when i test and audio from root in the console it says device bussy |
| 07:15.19 | test__ | jmcnaught, and no /dev/dsp |
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| 07:16.36 | talin | pylot: thank you |
| 07:16.40 | jmcnaught | test__: what does "aplay -l" say? you can use pastebinit to make a paste |
| 07:17.32 | test__ | jmcnaught, https://paste.debian.net/871446/ |
| 07:17.43 | CtrlC | I've installed polipo and sat it to convert tor. But it gives me connection resets. I can't connect to anything. |
| 07:17.53 | CtrlC | Any idea how to get it to work? |
| 07:18.03 | talin | pylot: is stretch aways teh name for testing ? |
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| 07:18.47 | jmcnaught | test__: when you looked in pavucontrol was the output device set to hdmi? |
| 07:19.07 | CtrlC | it says: polipo[10526]: Refusing connection from unauthorised net |
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| 07:19.46 | test__ | jmcnaught, yes |
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| 07:20.07 | test__ | jmcnaught, but the internal sound below it is muted |
| 07:20.16 | test__ | jmcnaught, just unmuted it |
| 07:20.39 | pylot | talin: no testing gets the next new name right after its becoming stable |
| 07:21.17 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: what does "sat it to convert tor" mean? |
| 07:21.41 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, convert localhost:9050 (socks) to http. |
| 07:22.52 | test__ | jmcnaught, am i screwed to do a fresh install ? :O |
| 07:22.56 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: you probably mean proxy or forward. conversion means transforming data from one format to another |
| 07:23.08 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, I guess so. |
| 07:23.21 | CtrlC | It is forward I think jmcnaught |
| 07:23.28 | jmcnaught | test__: do you want to use HDMI? you couldn't select another output? |
| 07:23.38 | test__ | jmcnaught, tried it already |
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| 07:24.40 | jmcnaught | test__: can you make a paste of "pactl info" ? |
| 07:24.50 | CtrlC | Here's the polipo config: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/967d0297/ |
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| 07:25.37 | talin | pylot: alright. thanks again |
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| 07:25.58 | test__ | jmcnaught, https://paste.debian.net/871508/ . Going for a reboot just disabled autologin i want to make sure no settings get stuck or nothing gets hold of the audio device |
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| 07:26.21 | test__ | also modprobed oss audio |
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| 07:33.16 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, nop nothing . wtf |
| 07:34.08 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, just tested with root on a console and audio plays |
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| 07:35.58 | jmcnaught | testuser_: what were you doing before it stopped working? maybe you could play with pavucontrol some more? or look in alsamixer, press F6 to switch to physical card and verify no channels are muted |
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| 07:36.34 | CtrlC | Anyone any idea about my issue. |
| 07:36.49 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, i was about the laugh my ass of watching the second debate between clinton and trump. I pressed some key sparadically and the sound went bye bye |
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| 07:37.42 | n4dir | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.47 | jmcnaught | testuser_: have you used some hot key that mutes or switches audio to a different output? |
| 07:38.03 | CtrlC | n4dir, Tell me more. How's that so? |
| 07:38.15 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, i thought so initially, but then when i pressed the hotkeys it did not work and after a reboot and adding another user it should have gone to default |
| 07:38.55 | n4dir | set the web-browser to make use of tor and you are ready to go. Been like that for a while now. |
| 07:39.06 | n4dir | You are probably better of using the tor-browser anyway |
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| 07:40.08 | jmcnaught | testuser_: not necessarily, alsa saves its state at shutdown and restores it on boot |
| 07:40.24 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, where does it save ? |
| 07:40.50 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, not to forget root plays fine so root is free from alsa conf? |
| 07:41.50 | jmcnaught | testuser_: oh right. do headphones work? |
| 07:42.13 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, never used them but the speakers work fine because root play |
| 07:43.39 | jmcnaught | testuser_: try headphones anyways |
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| 07:45.34 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, sound not working with headphones |
| 07:46.27 | jmcnaught | testuser_: can you take a screenshot of the pavucontrol Output Devices tab? |
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| 07:47.54 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, it is odd because no in rood it says device busy |
| 07:48.11 | testuser_ | and does not play sound anymore |
| 07:50.45 | jmcnaught | testuser_: what does "sudo lsof | grep dsp" say? |
| 07:51.02 | jmcnaught | (or use su if you don't have sudo) |
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| 07:51.35 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, http://i65.tinypic.com/ogi6q0.png |
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| 07:53.26 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, https://paste.debian.net/871609/ |
| 07:55.28 | jmcnaught | testuser_: do you want sound to come out of built-in speakers, or from the speakers of a screen/television plugged in via HDMI? |
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| 07:56.36 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, i just have external speakers |
| 07:56.45 | CtrlC | n4dir, I see. I want to use http though. |
| 07:57.15 | CtrlC | I got it working using privoxy anyway. Thanks. |
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| 07:57.29 | jmcnaught | testuser_: and you cannot unmute the analog output? |
| 07:57.50 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, afaik it is already unmuted. i unmuted everything |
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| 07:58.14 | jmcnaught | testuser_: in your screenshot analog output is muted |
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| 07:59.28 | testuser_ | jmcnaught, reboot |
| 07:59.47 | jmcnaught | i'm out |
| 08:01.46 | CtrlC | Can running a chmod -R 750 /home/user cuase any issues? |
| 08:02.19 | OpenTokix | CtrlC: All signs point to no |
| 08:02.41 | CtrlC | So no issues. Thanks. |
| 08:03.00 | SwedeMike | claritty: yes it can |
| 08:03.00 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: you want all of your files to be executable? |
| 08:03.18 | SwedeMike | claritty: that'll set the wrong permissions on the .ssh directory and any authorized_keys for instance |
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| 08:03.54 | SwedeMike | CtrlC: sorry, above was for you |
| 08:03.57 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, damn! You're right. I guess not using -R will solve the issue. I don't want other users to be able to even see my files. |
| 08:04.24 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: you don't need recursive to accomplish that |
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| 08:04.44 | CtrlC | so chmod 750 /home/user is the deal. right? No issues. |
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| 08:05.26 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: or 700, i don't know your group situation |
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| 08:06.14 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, I'm gonna add a new user that I don't want that user to see my files. idk if that helps. |
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| 08:07.18 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: what group owns /home/user? do any other users belong to that group? |
| 08:07.57 | arvind_ | jmcnaught, the mistake was indeed the internal sound config i turned the hdmi off and selected analog surround ... and it worked again. Thanks! |
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| 08:09.30 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, "getent group $user" says: $user:x:1002: |
| 08:09.36 | samriddhap | hey can anyone help me with some error on kali rolling 2.0? |
| 08:09.50 | jelly-home | !kali |
| 08:09.50 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 08:09.53 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, and Both users will run a vncserver. |
| 08:10.06 | jelly-home | samriddhap: so, #kali-linux is your channel |
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| 08:10.37 | samriddhap | thanks jelly-home |
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| 08:10.53 | jmcnaught | CtrlC: my point was, consider the group and its members, decide how you want to use the group permission. |
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| 08:11.15 | CtrlC | jmcnaught, I see. Thanks. |
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| 08:12.40 | arvind_ | jmcnaught, i see what happend when i muted it in xfce the sounds went poof xfce-volume messes up the settings from pavucontrol somehow |
| 08:13.53 | jmcnaught | arvind_: i don't use xfce so i don't know how well it integrates with pulseaudio. with gnome it just works |
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| 09:00.19 | ghormoon | hi, anyone ever tried to join winbind into domains with one way trust? I'm joining machine into domain A, A trusts B (B users can login onto A machines, works with windows hosts), but I didn't manage to make B users login on the linux box :( |
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| 09:02.17 | jelly-home | sounds like a question for #samba ? |
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| 09:02.47 | ghormoon | trying that since yesterday :))) |
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| 09:03.26 | greg__ | hi, I had debian jessie installed but then I tried to install stretch on the same disk and now, in the grub menu, both entries point to stretch |
| 09:03.58 | greg__ | is there a way to make both work? |
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| 09:04.17 | freemint | Hello i attempt to start a process from generated code without having it to store on the disk. I took a look at poix_spawn exec and system. All of them take a path or a file as parameter. Can i start a unix-process of a particular binary without storing it to disk first? |
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| 09:14.19 | sdx23 | freemint: everything is a file, doesn't mean it's on disk. You can have a tmpfs, e.g. |
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| 09:15.37 | freemint | sdx23, thanks for the pointer to tempfs, do you want to tell me more or should i RTFM? |
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| 09:16.39 | sdx23 | freemint: mount -t tmpfs -o size=1G none /somewhere/tmpfs |
| 09:16.53 | sdx23 | freemint: I tell more if you have specific questions ;) |
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| 11:26.16 | linuxbeginner131 | I want to install debian testing with kde 5.x version. is kde5 default in testing? And: whats the beste way: install stable without DE and the upgrade sources.list or is there a ready-to-use-iso?? |
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| 11:39.34 | tinyhippo | linuxbeginner131: DebianUnstable contains the KDE Frameworks 5.23, Plasma 5.6 and Applications 16.04 |
| 11:39.42 | tinyhippo | DebianStretch contains the KDE Frameworks 5.22, Plasma 5.6 and Applications 16.04 |
| 11:40.53 | jelly | linuxbeginner131: the best way to get testing running is still "install minimal stable without anything, release upgrade to stretch, then tasksel or other method to install your DE and other stuffs" |
| 11:42.23 | linuxbeginner131 | you speek about stretch and unstable (=the same I think)... but what about: I want to use testing.. can I easily install kde 5.x ? |
| 11:43.31 | qqx | linuxbeginner131: stretch is currently testing |
| 11:44.19 | linuxbeginner131 | oh stretch is testing.. ok.. and installing stable minimal and upgrading via sources.list is better than taking the Alpha7 installer?? |
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| 11:45.03 | linuxbeginner131 | or would it be the same if it works? |
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| 11:45.28 | qqx | If the alpha installer works for you, it should give pretty much the same result. |
| 11:45.54 | qqx | And if it doesn't work, you can file a bug report to help improve things. |
| 11:45.58 | linuxbeginner131 | ok.. thats an exact answer and what I wanted to know.. thank you very much ! bb |
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| 11:46.37 | linuxbeginner131 | mm. ok.. and latest stretch iso is alpha7, right? |
| 11:46.38 | qqx | I did an install with the alpha installer over the weekend without problems. But your mileage may vary. |
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| 12:03.25 | lixus | hello, for lifecycle and patch management i need to ensure that i can pin apt repos to a spezific version. Is it possible to install from a "Point Releases" and also let the /etc/apt/sources.list refere to that point release ? |
| 12:04.39 | lixus | example: i have to a test server that gets installed with pxe/preseeding with debian 8.2 . several month later i want to install the prod server with pxe/preseeding with exact the same version 8.2 |
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| 12:07.43 | lixus | how can i achieve this ? I am currently using this snapshot repos e.g. http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20160916T101556Z/ to make sure that prod and test server are identical but i would prefere to use the point releases |
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| 12:48.34 | menace | does anyone else have the problem for debian testing and KDE that starting icedove and pidgin seems to crash Plasma Desktop often? Plasma restarts instantly, but sometimes application windows are not seen anymore on the desktop |
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| 12:50.36 | Drzacek | menace, I'm on debian testing, I use icedove (no pidgin though), no problemms. Also, there is #debian-next on OFTC network for debian testing |
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| 13:20.22 | DeaDSouL | hi, how can I install netatalk on jessie ? |
| 13:20.27 | DeaDSouL | ,v netatalk |
| 13:20.28 | judd | Package: netatalk on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.2-1; sid: 2.2.5-1.1 |
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| 13:22.40 | themill | You'd probably compile the source package |
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| 13:28.49 | watmm | Using debian on aws and they mailed me to say 8.6 images are available. Would like to confirm that this is the same as simply installing security updates on 8.0? |
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| 13:31.41 | themill | watmm: it is |
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| 13:31.51 | watmm | ta, no need so |
| 13:32.40 | jelly | but you're going to save a tiny wee bit of disk space for amazon if your new instances are based on newer images, maybe? |
| 13:32.50 | Nik05 | watmm What I understand is that security updates shouldn't results in any changes to the behaviour of applications unless the issue is critical and cannot be patched on the stable version. Point releases can update software to a newer version, resulting in change of bevahiour i guess. |
| 13:32.59 | Nik05 | And you can just upgrade just like security updates |
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| 13:33.28 | Nik05 | watmm also it is already out for a month |
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| 13:38.33 | DeaDSouL | themill: thanks man |
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| 13:47.14 | Nik05 | Does anyone know if you get a second confirmation mail after send a confirmation back for a mailing list? |
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| 13:47.41 | ksk | Nik05: dont think so, you talking about an offical debian list, or? |
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| 13:47.59 | TomTomTo1 | you get a confirmation, that your email has been added. |
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| 13:48.52 | Nik05 | yes ksk. THank you TomTomTo1 guess I did something wrong |
| 13:49.20 | TomTomTo1 | it sometikes takes a few minutes. |
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| 13:51.55 | Nik05 | TomTomTo1 I see :P |
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| 13:53.49 | Nik05 | I send a new confirmation mail (with the correct From: Address), but apparently it doesnt matter what the from address is |
| 13:53.50 | watmm | Nik05: dist-upgrade produces no results |
| 13:54.02 | Nik05 | did you do an update bfore that watmm ? |
| 13:54.07 | watmm | jessie and jessie/updates in sources.lst |
| 13:54.18 | watmm | yep, daily |
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| 13:55.37 | jgjorgji | any ideas how i get out of this mess? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/449523/47636691/ |
| 13:55.57 | jgjorgji | it fails to install with dpkg too and if i disable config it fails on --install |
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| 13:56.06 | jgjorgji | hostname works fine when typingthe command... |
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| 13:57.01 | Nik05 | watmm didnt you already upgrade? Updates are out since 18 september |
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| 13:57.06 | missmbob | debian doesn't even have sssd |
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| 13:57.39 | missmbob | typo. my bad |
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| 13:58.58 | missmbob | jgjorgji: i'm still confused though. 1.8.4-2 is what you're trying. jessie is 1.11.7-3 |
| 13:59.44 | jgjorgji | i'm on wheezy sorry should have mentioned |
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| 14:00.37 | jgjorgji | this machine probably has a ton of things wrong with it tbh |
| 14:00.50 | jgjorgji | but i'm not sure how to debug apt/dpkg really |
| 14:01.00 | jgjorgji | how do i get more info on why it's failing? |
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| 14:06.38 | petemc | jgjorgji: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735872 |
| 14:06.39 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/735872 in sssd (open): «sssd: installation fails with 'hostname: Name or service not known'»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-01-18; last modified: 2014-01-18. |
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| 14:07.04 | petemc | ah, that might not be relevant |
| 14:07.13 | petemc | what does hostname return ? |
| 14:07.42 | jgjorgji | petemc: just returns the hostname, seems to be working fine |
| 14:08.10 | petemc | maybe it want a fully qualified name |
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| 14:09.57 | petemc | tho sssd works for me on jessie, and hostanme returns foo , hostname -f returns foo.bar.com |
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| 14:11.18 | missmbob | is dpkg not letting others edit factoids or is it just pissed at me for some reason? |
| 14:12.35 | petemc | works for me |
| 14:12.44 | petemc | dpkg: petemc |
| 14:12.45 | dpkg | you are, like, a joke killer |
| 14:12.59 | petemc | dpkg: no, petemc is not a joke killer |
| 14:12.59 | dpkg | petemc: okay |
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| 14:13.26 | missmbob | petemc: sigh. will you add a note to the evolution factoid? it's a pretty serious bug (in debian, too, but couldn't find a debian bug on it). fixed upstream. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373737 |
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| 14:16.27 | petemc | dpkg: evolution =~ s/irc.gimp.org/irc.gimp.org. https:\/\/bugzilla.redhat.com\/show_bug.cgi?id=1373737/ |
| 14:17.08 | petemc | dpkg: evolution =~ s#irc.gimp.org#irc.gimp.org. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373737# |
| 14:17.09 | dpkg | OK, petemc |
| 14:17.11 | missmbob | thanks |
| 14:17.14 | petemc | np |
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| 14:36.02 | woshty | Is there a cups channel= |
| 14:36.04 | woshty | ? |
| 14:36.34 | missmbob | there is ##cups ...not sure how live it is |
| 14:37.05 | teraflop | maybe they renamed it to #org.cups.cupsd :p |
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| 14:41.35 | teraflop | woshty: because the printer is off when you send the job? |
| 14:41.47 | teraflop | powered off* |
| 14:42.04 | woshty | nope, I can release the job at localhost:631 |
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| 14:48.12 | teraflop | woshty: ah, I noticed weird behaviour when the printer is powered off having a bunch of jobs and printer doing nothing, for such purposes i prefer cancel job, i find easier to just re-send the job when the printr is on |
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| 14:49.49 | woshty | teraflop: I was really annoyed with the default stop-printer. That is a bad default setting for nearly every usecase. ErrorPolicy retry-current-job seems to work better. No idea what the difference is. |
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| 14:50.07 | teraflop | woshty: I agree |
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| 14:50.43 | teraflop | I agree with the bad defaults, not sure about retry-current-job |
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| 14:51.36 | Orbstheorem | I guess one of the pages I consult the most is https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta |
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| 14:54.37 | adac | systemctl ....where can one find the config files for this? |
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| 14:57.12 | noctis_lux | Hi! I'm running Debian stable at the moment and need to update python3 to 3.5 for a given project. What solution would you recommend? (sorry if this already went through, battling with unruly wifi) |
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| 14:59.58 | teraflop | adac: huh? |
| 15:00.18 | missmbob | noctis_lux: i don't think there's a good solution. btw, for your sucky connection you should look into mosh. |
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| 15:00.58 | jelly | noctis_lux: build python3.5 and install into a custom prefix like /opt/python3.5 or /usr/local/python3.5 |
| 15:01.16 | missmbob | jelly: would that work? not sure |
| 15:01.30 | missmbob | ,checkbackport python3 |
| 15:01.32 | judd | Backporting package python3 in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: python3.5 (>= 3.5.1-13~), python3.5-minimal:any. |
| 15:02.32 | jelly | missmbob: if it doesn't work, then python people have things to fix |
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| 15:03.08 | Hood | In my latest update of debian systemd-shim has enn wipped and replaced by systemd (no more init system) and it does not work, so I want to reinstall the iit system, but the network is not configured, how can configure the network in systemd? |
| 15:03.56 | jhutchins | Is it python or ruby that can break essential system utilities? |
| 15:04.10 | teraflop | jhutchins: yeah |
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| 15:04.21 | missmbob | python is crucial. |
| 15:05.13 | teraflop | but if you build python in custom location not messing with system python is fine I guess |
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| 15:06.06 | noctis_lux | Oh, that's an interesting idea. Since pip has been integrated into Python, does that mean pip would install packages for the custom install? |
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| 15:08.07 | TomTomTo1 | you could build python 3.5.2 and use it in a vitualenv, so it doesn't mess with the rest of your system. |
| 15:08.18 | jhutchins | noctis_lux: What kind of project isn't that won't be backwards compatible with stable Debian? |
| 15:09.02 | Iridos | judd, versions python3 |
| 15:09.03 | judd | Package: python3 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; stretch: 3.5.1-4; sid: 3.5.1-4 |
| 15:09.45 | missmbob | it was the checkbackports thing that gave me pause |
| 15:09.56 | Iridos | I saw that a little late |
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| 15:09.58 | noctis_lux | jhutchins: it uses deques from the collections module, which got a new fancy insert() method it seems. I was surprised not to be able to run it too, when I joined the project |
| 15:10.42 | Iridos | agreed⦠if build dependencies cannot be fulfilled for a package backport, you're probably not better off for a manual build |
| 15:10.42 | teraflop | you better don't mess system python in debian systems |
| 15:10.59 | jelly | missmbob: one does not merely backport python |
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| 15:11.22 | Iridos | not merely⦠but fully |
| 15:11.30 | Iridos | â¦and gladly |
| 15:11.31 | missmbob | jelly: it think we're saying the same thing :P |
| 15:11.46 | teraflop | well yeah you can get fully fucked :P |
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| 15:13.15 | Iridos | missmbob, you need python 3.5 to build python 3.5?? |
| 15:13.16 | teraflop | just build python in a hidden corner of your system and youll be fine :) |
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| 15:14.15 | Iridos | so how was the very first python3.5 installation done |
| 15:14.43 | missmbob | Iridos: i'm too lazy to actually research why judd said what it did. just saying it probably wont be a ssb |
| 15:15.00 | noctis_lux | Probably by hand with a needle and a magnet, Iridos :b |
| 15:15.26 | Iridos | missmbob, what it says is correct⦠apt-get build-dep python3 --> E: Build-Depends dependency for python3-defaults cannot be satisfied because the package python3.5 cannot be found |
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| 15:18.00 | jhutchins | I often wonder what it is that developers run when their projects won't work with any supported release of Linux. |
| 15:18.36 | missmbob | i was (no longer) the lead developer of deluge and the #1 rule was it has to work on debian stable |
| 15:19.11 | Iridos | jhutchins, that's why it's "ruby on rails" and not "ruby on linux" |
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| 15:45.40 | noctis_lux | For a potential future change (or cusiority's sake), would you recommend trying debian unstable over another distribution? For what reason? |
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| 15:46.27 | missmbob | noctis_lux: never |
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| 15:47.01 | teraflop | if you want to support debian filing bugs and testing stuff sure go with sid |
| 15:47.31 | dondelelcaro | you can file bugs and test using testing too if that helps |
| 15:47.40 | teraflop | yeah |
| 15:47.40 | CtrlC | How does shared hostings manage the permissions so that each host won't be able to access other people's files? |
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| 15:57.22 | noctis_lux | Thanks for the information! |
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| 16:00.56 | God | hola |
| 16:01.11 | God | my wifi keeps dropping and doesnt reconnect quickly |
| 16:01.19 | God | but if I do ifdown ifup its fine |
| 16:01.27 | God | im already using wicd |
| 16:01.28 | God | any ideas? |
| 16:02.22 | jhutchins | God: Take a look at dmesg, see if you can find a reason for it dropping. |
| 16:02.32 | jhutchins | God: Sometimes wifi just doesn't work very well. |
| 16:02.47 | God | lol my wifi is really good tbh |
| 16:03.00 | God | in windows 10 ive never even had a stutter even when streaming games from steam |
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| 16:03.04 | teraflop | God: yeah dmesg/journalctl |
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| 16:03.19 | teraflop | God: but you're not in windows ^ |
| 16:03.21 | God | ill take a look next time but it seems more like |
| 16:03.27 | God | it has one seconds bad connection |
| 16:03.31 | God | and it just throws in the towel |
| 16:03.39 | God | and doesnt just reconnect it quickly |
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| 16:04.07 | dondelelcaro | God: this is one of the reasons why I've switched to using network-manager |
| 16:04.19 | God | well im using wicd |
| 16:04.25 | God | which I thought would solve it |
| 16:04.33 | dondelelcaro | still not perfect, but it seems to work better than wicd or just wpa-supplicant |
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| 16:05.01 | God | I might give it a go |
| 16:05.05 | God | cheers for the tip |
| 16:05.23 | dondelelcaro | God: no problem. You just need it and the nm-applet; it's pretty straight forward |
| 16:05.43 | dondelelcaro | (and it will even handle switching between wired, wireless, and usb connections properly) |
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| 16:06.05 | God | thats handy! I dont need that yet but I will eventually |
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| 16:10.57 | alex_ | any guy hre using meld |
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| 16:11.24 | ^7heo | Hey everyone. |
| 16:11.48 | alex_ | i would like define for specific file format '.slx' to unzip before diff is shown in meld |
| 16:11.58 | ^7heo | I am having an issue to automatically configure rsyslog-pgsql with debconf-set-selections during an automated install. |
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| 16:13.29 | ^7heo | I currently have the following lines at the end of my script: http://ix.io/1vNM |
| 16:13.57 | ^7heo | however apt does crash when I execute it in non-interactive with -y |
| 16:14.13 | ^7heo | with dbconfig-common: rsyslog-pgsql configure: aborted. |
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| 16:15.09 | ^7heo | does anyone have a clue how to fix that? |
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| 16:17.02 | sigdk | any hint how to proceed with this: https://paste.debian.net/872910/ ? It's from the installer of mysql workbench |
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| 16:17.54 | missmbob | !tell sigdk about debian-next |
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| 16:31.04 | arvind | hello, are there any open source programs that I can using for skypeing? |
| 16:32.23 | ksk | arvind: not to connect to skype afaik, but there are many open source VOIP implementations |
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| 16:33.10 | Iridos | skype is skype, is skype⦠you can skype with something else as much as you can bicycle with a car |
| 16:33.11 | ksk | arvind: mumble for exmaple - its "teamspeak like" if you know that |
| 16:33.18 | arvind | ksk, i need to connect to the skype network preferably without using the actual skype. Are you using or have you used the skype prgraom in debian jessie? |
| 16:33.29 | ksk | hell no :> |
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| 16:33.50 | arvind | yeah I do not like running non-free either, esp from a corp. |
| 16:33.51 | ksk | I read the other day they released a alpha for skype on linux. but no support for that in here probably :) |
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| 16:34.43 | mtn | arvind: skype works fine in linux |
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| 16:35.22 | ^7heo | how to install rsyslog-pgsql with a non-localhost server? |
| 16:35.26 | ^7heo | it crashes all the time when I try. |
| 16:35.27 | arvind | mtn the debian wiki talks about firejail and running skype but I am not able to locate it in the jessie repo |
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| 16:35.50 | mtn | arvind: hmm, the debian wiki should have a skype section. have you read it? |
| 16:36.25 | mtn | arvind: it tells you how to install skype |
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| 16:36.44 | arvind | mtn, afaik there is also a skype rep |
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| 16:37.47 | arvind | mtn oh the repo is gone |
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| 16:39.46 | missmbob | their new alpha client is basically just a tiny browser to web.skype.com. that's it. |
| 16:40.14 | ^7heo | web.skype.com is horribly buggy. |
| 16:40.26 | missmbob | yes. it sucks pretty hard |
| 16:40.43 | parov | yep... arent there some neat skype alternatives? |
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| 16:40.56 | missmbob | not that work with skype |
| 16:41.00 | ADubhlaoich | I've got two questions that might actually just be general Linux ones; I've just realized my OS isn't displaying Korean characters (Unicode issue?) and that in general the system's typefaces look... off. It's like there's no anti-aliasing in comparison to being in a Windows environment |
| 16:41.02 | ADubhlaoich | Any ideas? |
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| 16:41.49 | parov | you checked wiki.debian.org/fonts? |
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| 16:42.36 | ^7heo | parov: yeah that's the main issue. |
| 16:42.49 | ^7heo | parov: skype is mutually exclusive with ANYTHING else. |
| 16:43.23 | ^7heo | I have the problem @work, people are using skype, and I'm trying to communicate, and it sucks. |
| 16:43.25 | ADubhlaoich | parov: Thanks, hadn't thought to check the wiki |
| 16:43.45 | ^7heo | now, does anyone know about my pgsql issue? |
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| 16:43.58 | ^7heo | s/issue/install &/ |
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| 16:47.55 | ADubhlaoich | parov: Turns out the term I was looking for was 'font smoothing' and a sample config file from the font page provided the fix I was looking for. I learned a little bit reading about the issue too. Appreciate the help! |
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| 16:50.31 | teraflop | ADubhlaoich: while in Xorg setting up locales is not enough you need font families that supply the glyphs you're looking for |
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| 16:50.57 | parov | ADubhlaoich: you're welcome... sometimes it's way more simple than you might think :) |
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| 16:51.44 | ADubhlaoich | teraflop: Makes sense. Do any of the default fonts in Debian supply them, or are there common recommendations? |
| 16:52.11 | ADubhlaoich | parov: I wasn't even aware fonts had their own config file, but it makes so much sense that they do! |
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| 16:53.20 | teraflop | ADubhlaoich: idk off the top of my head, but many fonts provides suitable glyphs so I dont think there is a default |
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| 16:54.00 | teraflop | ADubhlaoich: which language? |
| 16:54.19 | arvind | Is there a way to list all packages I got from backports? |
| 16:54.23 | ADubhlaoich | teraflop: Fair enough. I'll check a few of my options; been running whatever came by default but had meant to see if anything else was comfortable |
| 16:54.33 | teraflop | oh I bet is arabic ? |
| 16:54.39 | Iridos | ^7⦠oh well |
| 16:54.41 | ADubhlaoich | teraflop: I noticed the issue with Korean from browsing YouTube |
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| 16:54.51 | Gabs5807 | Hello, did anyone set up a SCEP CA service on debian jessie? |
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| 16:56.01 | teraflop | ADubhlaoich: try with fonts-nanum-eco |
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| 16:56.23 | ADubhlaoich | teraflop: Thanks, will give it a go in a few! |
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| 16:56.26 | teraflop | np |
| 16:56.30 | arvind | !help |
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| 16:57.27 | TomTomTo1 | arvind: try aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ?archive(jessie-backports))' |
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| 16:58.19 | arvind | TomTomTo1, i do not have aptitude installed but is there apt-cache search version? I tried changing the aptitude into apt-cache .. but it did not work |
| 16:58.43 | missmbob | no for that kind of thing you need aptitude |
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| 16:59.23 | TomTomTo1 | i don't think there is an easy way to do the same with apt-cache. |
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| 17:00.19 | jhutchins | How does one manage to not have aptitude installed? |
| 17:00.33 | missmbob | jhutchins: i dont either |
| 17:00.38 | TomTomTo1 | by not selecting the standard tools in the installer. |
| 17:00.39 | greycat | Very easily. I also don't. |
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| 17:01.46 | Hood | systemd does not bring up my network, so I would like to bring it up manaullay, I have done dhclient wlan0, and my network card gets the ip address from the DHCP server, but it does not get te DNS serves, what can I do? |
| 17:02.35 | greycat | If it were a regular ethernet interface, you'd run "ifup eth0" after configuring /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:02.38 | greycat | I don't know wireless. |
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| 17:03.22 | jhutchins | Hood: One answer would be "fix the DHCP server". |
| 17:03.38 | Hood | greycat, problem is that it was working, but apt-get wipped out sysVinit and placed it with systemd, I only need to get netork connecion to bring back again systemd-shim :) |
| 17:03.40 | greycat | jhutchins: does manually running dhclient configure resolv.conf? |
| 17:03.59 | Hood | jhut, problem is that it was working, but apt-get wipped out sysVinit and placed it with systemd, I only need to get netork connecion to bring back again systemd-shim :) |
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| 17:04.11 | greycat | Hood: in a pinch you can always put the google resolver in /etc/resolv.conf by hand |
| 17:04.31 | jhutchins | greycat: Not unless the DHCP server is sending DNS settings. |
| 17:04.47 | Hood | the DNS server is my router |
| 17:04.57 | greycat | jhutchins: ASSUMING that the dhcp server is fine, does he get that in resolv.conf by running dhclient BY HAND, or does that come from the ifup infrastructure that he bypassed? |
| 17:05.03 | jhutchins | greycat: If it is sending DNS info dhclient should update /etc/resolv.conf. |
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| 17:05.29 | greycat | I've never run dhclient by hand. Ever. |
| 17:05.40 | jhutchins | greycat: Yes, it should work if run manually. |
| 17:05.53 | ADubhlaoich | teraflop: Trying to figure out how to change system font in LXDM ended up leading me onto this wiki page that's fixed my issue - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Multilingual_support_(East_Asian) |
| 17:05.56 | ADubhlaoich | Thanks for the help! |
| 17:06.07 | Hood | me neither, but I have tried configuring network.service for systemd and it did NOT wor so... bu hand |
| 17:06.22 | Hood | bu*by |
| 17:06.53 | greycat | Hood: printf 'nameserver 8.8.8.8\n' >> /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:07.02 | jmcnaught | Hood: maybe you could show your /etc/network/interfaces. the networking.service is actually the same old /etc/init.d/networking init script |
| 17:07.11 | jhutchins | Hood: If networking was set up correctly under init, systemd should have read that config and created a functional one. |
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| 17:07.24 | greycat | (or the equivalent operation using your favorite text editor) |
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| 17:07.59 | Hood | jmcnaught, maybe I could, but remeber, myy computer does not hace networking, I am typng from the other system in it (dual booting) so I cannot type it |
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| 17:09.12 | Hood | jhutchins, it was set up correctly, itwas working without problems, but systemd did not work |
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| 17:09.32 | jmcnaught | Hood: if you are booted into another linux install on the same computer you can show us that file. or boot into your broken networking system, and do the temporary fix suggested above ^ |
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| 17:10.27 | teraflop | ADubhlaoich: yeah you just need at least one family providing the glyphs |
| 17:10.44 | Hood | jmcnaught, i is a windows system |
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| 17:11.14 | greycat | So wait, his debian system isn't even running at the moment? |
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| 17:11.25 | greycat | That's... going to make it hard to fix. |
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| 17:12.19 | missmbob | i dont see how editing resolv.conf wouldn't work. so it should be easy enough and he can get back on here after to solve it properly |
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| 17:12.57 | greycat | It will work if the missing nameservers are the only problem. |
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| 17:13.13 | anddam | hello, how feasible is it to replace systemd with runit in jessie? |
| 17:13.17 | greycat | Unfortunately, problems are pack animals. |
| 17:13.24 | Hood | greycat, it is running, but in the same comptuer as this, so I can type here, or I can go into the other boot... yes, it is going to be painful... so I am not asking how to fix it, I am asking to bring it up manually for ONCE, so i can set up systemd-shim and put up a system which I know how to fix |
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| 17:14.04 | jmcnaught | Hood: the way networking is brought up is the same with both init systems in jessie |
| 17:14.08 | missmbob | he's talking about you, dpkg |
| 17:14.15 | missmbob | still pissed at the bot :P |
| 17:15.02 | Hood | jmcnaught, well, o, but in systemd it does not work, whatever the reason, I am not interested in running systemd, I am only interesting in how can I bring up manually the ne network |
| 17:15.11 | gnarlin | Hello. I'm wondering if someone here would be willing to help me with a silly little project. I'm trying to install Debian 1.1 buzz in virtualbox using floppy images I found here: http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/buzz/main/disks-i386/1996_6_16/ |
| 17:15.17 | gnarlin | ? |
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| 17:17.10 | jmcnaught | Hood: if the suggestions you just got do not work, copy your interfaces file to a USB stick so you can paste it after you boot into windows again, or consider doing IRC from your phone or another computer |
| 17:17.59 | jmcnaught | anddam: there is a debian wiki page on the topic, but you will probably find some stuff doesn't work as well as it does with the default init |
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| 17:18.18 | jhutchins | !interfaces |
| 17:18.19 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 17:18.53 | Hood | jmcnaught, the temporary fix is the /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 17:19.43 | jmcnaught | Hood: you are saying that wlan0 gets an IP address, but there is nothing in resolv.conf? Manually edit resolv.conf. |
| 17:19.59 | greycat | Didn't we say this like 15 minutes ago? |
| 17:20.14 | missmbob | we did |
| 17:20.18 | Hood | jmcnaught, greycat yes, thaks, I will try it :) |
| 17:20.27 | gnarlin | anyone here willing to help me with Debian 1.1 buzz on virtualbox? |
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| 17:21.18 | jhutchins | gnarlin: Why? |
| 17:21.53 | jmcnaught | gnarlin: probably not, but if you explain the problem you're having instead of asking to ask, then maybe someone will have an answer |
| 17:22.36 | gshrikant | When I run `update-grub` the grub.cfg under boot/ seems to get updated but the GRUB menu on boot doesn't seem to reflect those changes. Do I need to grub-install again? |
| 17:22.38 | gnarlin | well, some time ago I saw a video on youtube where someone installed dos, upgraded it to 6.22, installed win 1, upgraded to 3 etc etc until he had upgraded all the way to win7. I thought it would be a crazy/fun idea/project to install the very first version of debian, upgrade it to the max |
| 17:22.59 | gnarlin | and make a video out of it |
| 17:23.17 | gnarlin | the boot floppy runs fine |
| 17:23.24 | greycat | gshrikant: Are you 100% certain you're booting from the device that update-grub is writing to? |
| 17:23.54 | gnarlin | but when it asks for the second floppy it can't read the image and I can't seem to identify it or uncompress it. |
| 17:23.58 | gshrikant | greycat: Yes, I have a separate boot/ partition where I am booting from. |
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| 17:24.24 | greycat | gshrikant: No chance there are multiple disks in the system, or an attached USB device you forgot about? |
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| 17:24.44 | gnarlin | the root.bin |
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| 17:27.02 | gshrikant | greycat: No. But I do have two / partitions - but I thought since the /boot is separate, it shouldn't affect the boot itself. |
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| 17:27.19 | gshrikant | Is there any way I can check where exactly grub picks up the cfg? |
| 17:27.38 | gshrikant | To make sure I am booting from where I think I am booting from. |
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| 17:30.12 | jamesl | I am connecting a USB keyboard through a powered hub to a Linux PC. When I unplug the hub from the Linux PC and insert it into a Windows PC, the keyboard works fine on the windows PC, and I can type on it. When I plug the same hub into a Linux PC, Linux cannot identify the device, and I cannot type. I cannot run dmesg or lsusb because I cannot use a keyboard. The Linux PC is a raspberry pi running Debian 8.5 |
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| 17:30.22 | jamesl | how do I identify where the problem is? |
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| 17:32.27 | jmcnaught | jamesl: can you try without the hub, or a different hub? |
| 17:32.40 | jamesl | but it works on Windows with the hub |
| 17:32.45 | jamesl | so the problem is not the hub |
| 17:32.59 | jamesl | I plugged the hub into the Windows PC and it worked fine |
| 17:33.07 | jamesl | is it a hardware problem on the Linux PC? |
| 17:33.56 | jmcnaught | jamesl: it's still worth trying without the hub on the linux computer |
| 17:34.03 | jelly | jamesl: are you running actual debian, or raspbian? |
| 17:34.09 | jamesl | raspbian |
| 17:34.13 | jamesl | the latest version |
| 17:34.15 | jelly | then ask in #raspbian |
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| 17:34.49 | jelly | both embedded hw and derivative distros can have issues specific for them |
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| 17:38.40 | greycat | gshrikant: dunno how reliable this answer is but http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111237/how-does-linux-deal-with-a-separate-boot-partition says "finds the /boot partition (which I believe is determined when you install GRUB to the Master Boot Record)" |
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| 17:40.21 | gnarlin | http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1476380325.png |
| 17:40.38 | gnarlin | error message for debian 1.1 buzz root.bin in virtualbox |
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| 17:41.33 | nkuttler | gnarlin: is that a floppy disk image? |
| 17:41.37 | gnarlin | yes |
| 17:41.45 | gnarlin | debian buzz wasn't released for cd |
| 17:41.52 | gnarlin | as far as I know |
| 17:41.56 | nkuttler | did you try to mount it in a virtual cd drive? |
| 17:42.13 | gnarlin | like mount -o loop etc? |
| 17:42.23 | gnarlin | dru |
| 17:42.24 | gnarlin | dur |
| 17:42.26 | nkuttler | no, how did you add it to vbox? |
| 17:42.43 | gnarlin | with a floppy drive emulator in virtualbox |
| 17:42.54 | gnarlin | boot.dsk works fine |
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| 17:43.07 | nkuttler | gnarlin: did you checksum the image? |
| 17:43.25 | gnarlin | no. |
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| 17:43.48 | gnarlin | do you know the checksum for root.bin buzz? |
| 17:43.55 | nkuttler | is that not in the readme? |
| 17:44.00 | gnarlin | one mo.. |
| 17:44.13 | gnarlin | yes |
| 17:44.15 | gnarlin | http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/buzz/main/disks-i386/1996_6_16/md5sum.txt |
| 17:44.17 | gnarlin | found it. |
| 17:45.11 | gshrikant | greycat: The grub.cfg in the /boot looks okay. I ran grub-install again now, rebooting to see if it changes anything. |
| 17:45.43 | gnarlin | it's the right checksum |
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| 17:48.41 | gshrikant | greycat: That worked! I don't know but appears like the separate EFI partition is mounted at /boot/efi and 'update-grub' just creates the cfg, but only `grub-install` forces it to read it. |
| 17:49.07 | greycat | gshrikant: That's... partially correct, as I understand it. |
| 17:49.31 | greycat | update-grub just updates grub.cfg, correct. But the magical part is "how does grub know where /boot is" and that's the part where I had to google. |
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| 17:52.25 | DeaDSouL | I wonder, if my server doesn't have any DE, can I run a virtualbox and give it :0 or :1 as display ? |
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| 17:53.28 | greycat | If you're trying to run an X program without actually seeing it or interacting with it *in any way*, look into xvfb |
| 17:53.43 | greycat | If that's not what you are trying to do, tell us what you are trying to do. |
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| 17:54.52 | afernandez_ | hello i have this problem doing groupadd: |
| 17:55.08 | afernandez_ | groupadd fails with "cannot lock /etc/group |
| 17:55.11 | afernandez_ | any ideas |
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| 17:55.49 | DeaDSouL | greycat: I have a debian server running as main server... I want to run another distro (OpenELEC) as virtual machine. and display its KODI via hdmi to my TV |
| 17:56.30 | jmcnaught | afernandez_: show the full command and output, and also try with addgroup (read the man for syntax) |
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| 17:58.16 | afernandez_ | useradd -b /visitors/ -m -R /visitors/ -s /bin/bash -U visitor |
| 17:58.33 | Iridos | are you root? |
| 17:58.41 | afernandez_ | useradd: canort lock /etc/passwd; try again later |
| 17:58.44 | afernandez_ | yes |
| 17:58.47 | afernandez_ | root |
| 17:59.08 | Iridos | try fuser /etc/group (or whatever file it says cannot be locked) |
| 17:59.08 | greycat | afernandez_: what does "id" say? |
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| 17:59.32 | afernandez_ | uid 0 |
| 17:59.36 | afernandez_ | gid 0 |
| 17:59.38 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 17:59.43 | afernandez_ | groups 90 root |
| 17:59.51 | afernandez_ | groups 0 |
| 17:59.53 | afernandez_ | root |
| 17:59.58 | greycat | Run the "id" command with no arguments and PASTE ITS OUTPUT here. Do not make up output. Do not summarize the output. Do not add a username as an argument. |
| 18:00.04 | jmcnaught | DeaDSouL: you're going to have a bunch of problems with framerate doing that. why not just run kodi on debian? it's in jessie-backports |
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| 18:02.23 | DeaDSouL | jmcnaught: the xbmc on deb8 is outdated and most plugins don't work. and the one from the backports repo, doesn't work nicely.. if it was idle for 5 minutes, everything freez. and if I play a movie, every 30-50 seconds the picture freezs for 2-4 seconds |
| 18:02.40 | afernandez_ | I cant :( |
| 18:02.42 | afernandez_ | is ion a vm |
| 18:02.47 | afernandez_ | and i can not copy paste |
| 18:03.03 | anddam | jmcnaught: just read your reply, thanks |
| 18:03.25 | jmcnaught | DeaDSouL: what about the kodi from jessie-backports? |
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| 18:03.52 | anddam | jmcnaught: I actually don't have anything fancy, it's just a VPS so as long as there's a virtual serial and I don't cut myself off the box I'm fine |
| 18:03.54 | DeaDSouL | jmcnaught: yes that is the one with freezes |
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| 18:04.08 | anddam | jmcnaught: that likely means having sshd running, I don't need much more |
| 18:04.29 | Iridos | afernandez_, so what does fuser say |
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| 18:07.11 | jmcnaught | DeaDSouL: sounds like trying to troubleshoot the kodi package in backports is a lot simpler than trying to run a video player in a VM and then have it display on your screen in full framerate |
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| 18:10.25 | DeaDSouL | jmcnaught: the problem is .... I don't know how to troubleshoot the issue :( |
| 18:10.40 | jmcnaught | DeaDSouL: start with finding errors |
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| 18:11.50 | DeaDSouL | jmcnaught: I don't know what's causeing the freezes |
| 18:12.07 | teraflop | DeaDSouL: kodi writes crashlogs also it has a debug flag |
| 18:13.08 | teraflop | DeaDSouL: 99% of the time you fixed it disabling hw decoding :P |
| 18:13.10 | DeaDSouL | teraflop: that's the problem... there is no crash...!! |
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| 18:13.27 | DeaDSouL | teraflop: oh... I'll try that |
| 18:13.31 | teraflop | DeaDSouL: tell it to debug |
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| 18:23.23 | DeaDSouL | teraflop: disabling the hw decoding didn't help |
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| 18:23.49 | teraflop | well it worth a try |
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| 18:24.20 | jahced | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 18:24.59 | arvind | after invoking aptitude -F '%c %p %v %t' search ~i | awk '/^i/ && $4 ~ /jessie-backports/ {print}' - is there a way to easily remove these packages and replace them with jessie packages. Some of the updated packages include udev or libreoffice ( which will remove my desktop xfce dependency) or even x11 packages...so i will not break my system. ( list of jessie backports: https://paste.debian.net/873245/ ) |
| 18:25.01 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 18:25.15 | teraflop | DeaDSouL: debug it. launch -with the appropriate flag from terminal and look the output when it crashes |
| 18:25.19 | `Kevin | DeaDSouL: any chance you have a second video card installed or laying around to dedicate to the VM? |
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| 18:25.43 | `Kevin | you can use pci passthrough to get better performance etc as it will be dedicated to that VM |
| 18:25.50 | b6s3d | hi fellas, when i try to update my debian server it tells me this: |
| 18:25.50 | b6s3d | 0% [Connecting to ftp.debian.org (130.89.148.12)] [Connecting to security.debian.org (195.20.242.89)] [Connecting to deb.torproject.org (138.201.1^C |
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| 18:26.23 | jelly | b6s3d: is tor running? |
| 18:26.50 | b6s3d | service tor status |
| 18:26.51 | b6s3d | â tor.service |
| 18:26.51 | b6s3d | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.51 | b6s3d | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:26.53 | DeaDSouL | `Kevin: yes, intel-vcard and amd |
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| 18:27.12 | b6s3d | ok |
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| 18:27.23 | lae | how do I install a package like parted in preseed/early_command? anna-install parted-udeb doesn't seem to install it...but I see that it installs parted-udeb later on in the preseed process when fetching helper utilities |
| 18:27.27 | jelly | b6s3d: how long do you wait there at 0%, all the connections stuck? |
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| 18:27.34 | b6s3d | yes |
| 18:27.53 | jelly | b6s3d: how long do you wait? 5 seconds? 5 minutes? |
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| 18:28.05 | Iridos | arvind, that actually tells me on my system (as the last line) i zim 0.62-3 jessie-backports |
| 18:28.21 | `Kevin | DeaDSouL: thats just an option you can try instead of pure emulation... i would opt for the AMD for pci passthrough ... it will take a lot of testing to make it work but ive done it for gaming and such |
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| 18:28.29 | `Kevin | the AMD* |
| 18:28.34 | Iridos | arvind, and whatever zim is, version 0.62-3 is stable and 0.65-2 would be backports |
| 18:28.35 | b6s3d | it finished now with only error |
| 18:28.38 | b6s3d | jelly^ |
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| 18:29.01 | arvind | Iridos, ' |
| 18:29.02 | jelly | b6s3d: pastebin the whole output (and try not to press control-c) |
| 18:29.07 | arvind | Iridos, ? |
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| 18:29.58 | b6s3d | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918414 |
| 18:30.01 | b6s3d | jelly ^ |
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| 18:30.11 | Kiril | hello guys |
| 18:30.22 | Iridos | arvind, at least for me, the output isn't reliably correct. aptitude -F '%c %p %v %t' search ^zim$ returns i zim 0.62-3 jessie-backports |
| 18:30.27 | Iridos | judd versions zim |
| 18:30.28 | judd | Package: zim on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.56-1; wheezy-backports: 0.62-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.62-3; jessie-backports: 0.65-2~bpo8+1; sid: 0.65-3; stretch: 0.65-3 |
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| 18:30.51 | arvind | Iridos, it works here |
| 18:31.04 | jelly | b6s3d: looks like your internet connectivity on that system has issues |
| 18:31.15 | Iridos | while apt-show-versions zim gives me: zim:all/jessie 0.62-3 uptodate |
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| 18:31.27 | jelly | b6s3d: physical or virtual machine? Can you "ping security.debian.org"? |
| 18:31.37 | arvind | Iridos, do you have a quesion for me or are you trying to answer my question? |
| 18:31.56 | b6s3d | i can ping google.com let me try ping security.debian.org |
| 18:32.05 | Kiril | which certs i need to use for bypassing gmail restrictions ( i mean the certs located in /etc/ssl/certs ) especially for postfix and here is the google statement "We do not accept self-signed certificates. For a certificate to be valid it needs to chain up to a valid CA, like one in the Mozilla CA list." |
| 18:32.28 | b6s3d | jelly: yes i can ping security.debian.org |
| 18:32.30 | Iridos | arvind, at the moment telling you that the line you used doesn't work (in the sense that aptitude seems to give me wrong outout) - at least not when I use it on my system |
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| 18:32.59 | arvind | Iridos, great ... that is not the question for me or the question I asked... |
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| 18:33.09 | jelly | Kiril: what precisely do you do and what kinds of restrictions do you see? |
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| 18:34.40 | gnarlin | Anyone: can someone please help me uncompress this file into it's seperate components? http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/buzz/main/disks-i386/1996_6_16/root.bin |
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| 18:34.52 | b6s3d | jelly: what should i do? |
| 18:35.09 | jelly | b6s3d: is it a physical or virtual system? Does "wget http://security.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/Release" work? |
| 18:35.25 | b6s3d | VPS |
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| 18:35.57 | Iridos | arvind, oh well⦠and to answer it⦠a) downgrades are as such not supported, because any program could write config files in home that aren't downgradeable and or upgrade the file format for files they write etc. etc. etc. that said⦠you can /msg dpkg partial downgrade (the factoid was really meant for people who did a partial upgrade to testing) |
| 18:36.10 | cra1g321 | is there a channel to do with backports ? |
| 18:36.18 | greycat | gnarlin: what is is? Just a floppy image? Try loopback mounting. |
| 18:36.34 | arvind | Iridos, okay thank you |
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| 18:36.53 | b6s3d | jelly: vps\ |
| 18:36.59 | b6s3d | i don't think i can wget http://security.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/Release |
| 18:37.11 | b6s3d | failed: Connection timeout... |
| 18:37.46 | jelly | b6s3d: do you have a local or network firewall in place? |
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| 18:37.56 | arvind | Iridos, someone here in the channel told me about the aptitude command - found more info on : http://superuser.com/questions/1041142/aptitudes-t-format-option-doesnt-show-archives-of-installed-pkgs-why-bug |
| 18:38.00 | Kiril | jelly i have some issues with gmail |
| 18:38.10 | gnarlin | greycat: no, it's isn't a floppy image. It's a gzipped cpio image |
| 18:38.19 | b6s3d | no not on the server, ferm is installed on this computer though |
| 18:38.21 | jelly | b6s3d: pastebin the output of "iptables-save", "ip a" and "ip r" run as root |
| 18:38.23 | Kiril | the emails going in spam instead of inbox |
| 18:38.39 | jelly | b6s3d: what does "on this computer" mean, the host? |
| 18:38.53 | greycat | gnarlin: oh, in that case just zcat | cpio -ivdum or whatever |
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| 18:39.15 | Kiril | the reason i see is the following: gmail did not encrypt this message |
| 18:39.32 | jelly | Kiril: where do you see this? |
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| 18:40.38 | b6s3d | jelly: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918417 |
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| 18:40.59 | jmcnaught | arvind: you aptitude search pipeline also doesn't work for me, lists a bunch of packages that are not installed from backports for me. Compare with the output of aptitude search '~S ~i ~Ajessie-backports' |
| 18:41.00 | jelly | Kiril: emails from gmail to your self-hosted domain, or emails TO gmail FROM your self-hosted domain? |
| 18:41.03 | Iridos | arvind, yeah, looks like a bug to me. The thing is, though, it's somewhat non-trivial to find the archive something is coming from⦠because packages can do a full migration unstable->testing->stable |
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| 18:41.55 | jelly | b6s3d: that's weird. I don't know whether your ip a and ip r output is normal for the type of VPS you use, sorry. |
| 18:42.03 | Iridos | so the same package can be in different repos over time⦠why aptitude fails (for me) on an obvious case like zim (just one of many packages) , I have no idea |
| 18:42.36 | b6s3d | k |
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| 18:43.12 | jelly | b6s3d: care to run "traceroute security.debian.org" or "tracepath security.debian.org" whichever's available |
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| 18:43.42 | b6s3d | sure |
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| 18:44.33 | b6s3d | command(s) not found |
| 18:44.44 | gnarlin | graycat: I run "zcat root.bin | cpio --format=ustar -ivdum" and just get "1 block" ? |
| 18:45.29 | jelly | b6s3d: what about "telnet security.debian.org 80" |
| 18:45.45 | gnarlin | if I run it without the --format=ustar I get a bunch of cpio: Malformed number |
| 18:45.47 | greycat | gnarlin: you said it was cpio, but then you told it to extract ustar format? Weird.... |
| 18:45.48 | b6s3d | nope |
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| 18:46.15 | jelly | b6s3d: I'm out of ideas. Show your provider the wget output and ask them why that does not work. |
| 18:46.16 | cobra1984 | ciao |
| 18:46.18 | greycat | gnarlin: Where did you get "no, it's isn't a floppy image. It's a gzipped cpio image" from? |
| 18:46.18 | gnarlin | in install.sh on the boot.bin there is this line: extract="cpio --format=ustar --extract --unconditional" |
| 18:46.23 | cobra1984 | !list |
| 18:46.24 | dpkg | cobra1984: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
| 18:46.27 | gnarlin | that's where I got it from |
| 18:46.28 | TomTomTosch | that aptitude command from earlier doesn't list packages installed from backports, but ones that are installed and also have a version in backports. that's why i used the ?narrow modifier earlier. aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ?archive(jessie-backports))' |
| 18:46.58 | TomTomTosch | ?narrow chacks if both patterns match for the same version. |
| 18:47.03 | TomTomTosch | *checks |
| 18:47.13 | `Kevin | b6s3d: what does security.debian.org resolve to? (host security.debian.org) |
| 18:47.15 | gnarlin | well, file doesn't recognize it as a floppy image and neigther does virtualbox, which is why I'm having such trouble |
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| 18:47.26 | greycat | gnarlin: what does file say it is? |
| 18:47.38 | Iridos | arvind, apt-show-versions seems to work ok for me, though⦠why do you want to get rid of backport packages anyway? |
| 18:47.44 | b6s3d | host not found |
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| 18:47.54 | `Kevin | b6s3d: if you ping it what ip shows up |
| 18:47.58 | b6s3d | its a minimal system |
| 18:47.58 | gnarlin | it is supposed to be dd to floppy, but it's not strucktured like a normal floppy image |
| 18:48.06 | gnarlin | according to install.txt |
| 18:48.16 | jelly | b6s3d: "getent ahosts security.debian.org" |
| 18:48.20 | b6s3d | (195.20.242.89) |
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| 18:48.40 | Iridos | TomTomTosch, ah, I just love aptitude for the way everything one does with it is obvious |
| 18:48.46 | arvind | Iridos, i installed a buunch to compile software but it was a dead end for me now I want to remove them, I also installed some apps to just try out |
| 18:49.06 | krav | uuugh. I set my xorg resolution wrong, and now xorg won't actually boot. it just keeps looping back into lightdm. anyone know a fix? |
| 18:49.28 | b6s3d | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918418 |
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| 18:49.33 | b6s3d | `Kevin ^ |
| 18:49.45 | `Kevin | seems valid |
| 18:50.02 | jelly | b6s3d: when you complain to the provider, also give them your "ip a" and "ip r" output and ask them if that's fine and correct |
| 18:50.06 | arvind | Iridos, i would rather stick with jessie as I assume it is more stable |
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| 18:50.43 | gnarlin | greycat: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1476380325.png |
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| 18:51.03 | `Kevin | b6s3d: do you have ANY working repos where you can install traceroute? if not you are stuck as jelly says ^ |
| 18:51.32 | arvind | Iridos, apt-show-versions is actually a relief because i saw udev being upgraded and i was a bit stunned because i did not recall it being upgraded |
| 18:51.36 | greycat | gnarlin: what does file say it is? |
| 18:51.47 | Iridos | TomTomTosch, as in " aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ?archive(jessie-backports))' " ? |
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| 18:52.16 | gnarlin | greycat: root.bin: gzip compressed data, last modified: Wed May 22 05:25:16 1996, from Unix |
| 18:52.22 | b6s3d | i have filed a complain to the provider |
| 18:52.27 | jelly | gnarlin: and file -z root.bin? |
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| 18:52.48 | gnarlin | root.bin: data (gzip compressed data, last modified: Wed May 22 05:25:16 1996, from Unix) |
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| 18:53.19 | b6s3d | i can install traceroute, but without verification |
| 18:53.56 | TomTomTosch | Iridos: it's not very intuitive ^^ |
| 18:54.30 | `Kevin | b6s3d: what repos are you able to reach? is it something ran by your vps provider? |
| 18:54.44 | b6s3d | idk |
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| 18:54.49 | b6s3d | how do i check? |
| 18:55.04 | `Kevin | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:55.18 | Iridos | TomTomTosch, but that was what you had in mind? |
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| 18:55.43 | b6s3d | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918420 |
| 18:55.49 | b6s3d | `Kevin |
| 18:55.52 | Iridos | TomTomTosch, because that command only yields 43 bdo packages, while apt-show-versions yields 70 (and all of them seem to have bdo in the version string) |
| 18:56.23 | jmcnaught | Iridos: what about "aptitude search '~S ~i !~A^stable'"? |
| 18:56.38 | `Kevin | b6s3d: did you add the security line or is that file still the same as when the vps was created? |
| 18:56.46 | `Kevin | `security.debian` |
| 18:57.04 | b6s3d | didn't add anything |
| 18:57.08 | Iridos | jmcnaught, 444 |
| 18:57.11 | b6s3d | was there from the start |
| 18:57.20 | b6s3d | only tor i added |
| 18:57.24 | TomTomTosch | Iridos: no idea |
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| 18:58.22 | `Kevin | b6s3d: this is what you see with apt-get install traceroute -> `Install these packages without verification [y/N]? ` ? |
| 18:58.29 | jmcnaught | Iridos: for me '~S ~i !~A^stable' shows the same as '~S ~i ~Ajessie-backports' (except for the one package that i backported) |
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| 18:58.43 | b6s3d | yes |
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| 18:58.59 | b6s3d | and i tried to update again because of habit |
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| 18:59.28 | nickgaw | Hi, What do I need to put in the sshd configuration file to allow root to be able to login with my root password? |
| 18:59.32 | `Kevin | b6s3d: ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ |
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| 18:59.39 | ploop | is there any way to install testing with a netinst image? |
| 18:59.55 | `Kevin | b6s3d: do you see gpg keys/files for debian-archive-$yourRelease... etc |
| 19:00.03 | greycat | nickgaw: grep PermitRoot /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 19:00.15 | b6s3d | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918422 |
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| 19:00.27 | greycat | nickgaw: change whatever your line says, to "PermitRootLogin yes" if that's what you want. |
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| 19:00.57 | b6s3d | my release is jessie so yes |
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| 19:01.36 | obo_ | Hello, anybody here has used dotdeb in the past, is it a good repository ? |
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| 19:03.05 | nickgaw | nothing about allowing root login just about strict passwords but after changing this to no and restarting sshd I am still unable to login using root why is this |
| 19:03.19 | `Kevin | b6s3d: if all apt-get packages via http://ftp.debian.org/debian are showing up as no verification i would really question whats up with your vps provider (assuming your gpg keys are correct) |
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| 19:04.20 | TomTomTosch | Iridos: did you run apt-show-versions | grep ~bpo ? it matches the aptitude output for me. |
| 19:04.22 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: sshd_config defaults to 'PermitRootLogin without-password' in jessie, so you need to use an SSH key or change the setting |
| 19:04.40 | b6s3d | `Kevin its weird, i ran a old version of tor accidently |
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| 19:04.45 | b6s3d | as exit node |
| 19:04.55 | b6s3d | perhaps that has something to say |
| 19:04.57 | b6s3d | perhaps that has something to say |
| 19:04.58 | greycat | nickgaw: change whatever your line says, to "PermitRootLogin yes" if that's what you want. |
| 19:05.01 | b6s3d | ups |
| 19:05.03 | b6s3d | ? |
| 19:05.09 | b6s3d | 8 |
| 19:05.12 | b6s3d | omg sorry |
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| 19:05.38 | b6s3d | wb mtn |
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| 19:05.41 | nickgaw | That setting does not exist in my configuration file for sshd what should it look like and where should it be placed? |
| 19:06.05 | `Kevin | b6s3d: >> md5sum /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-jessie-stable.gpg |
| 19:06.12 | TomTomTosch | Iridos: apt-show-version shows a firefox version i got from mdn, that is no longer in that repo, aptitude does not. but that's not a bug. |
| 19:06.45 | `Kevin | b6s3d: pastebin ` apt-cache policy traceroute ` |
| 19:06.51 | Iridos | TomTomTosch, apt-show-versions | grep ~bpo --> 82 (but some packages have bpo in the name) |
| 19:06.59 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: are you not using Debian? You can put your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on http://paste.debian.net/ and/or review "man sshd_config" |
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| 19:07.16 | Iridos | oh "~" |
| 19:07.20 | nickgaw | I am using jessie. |
| 19:07.28 | b6s3d | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918425 |
| 19:07.31 | nickgaw | fresh installation of it. |
| 19:08.19 | Kiril | jelly sorry for the delayinh |
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| 19:08.58 | Kiril | m.. i saw the message in gmail like when you move your mouse on broken lock |
| 19:09.01 | gnarlin | greycat: I've tried multiple iterations and parameters of cpio and paxcpio :-( |
| 19:09.24 | Kiril | and here's the reference from gmail https://support.google.com/mail/answer/21291?hl=en |
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| 19:09.47 | `Kevin | b6s3d: md5 matches, id you get the verification issue for other packages as well that suggests tampering to some extent somewhere ... |
| 19:09.51 | `Kevin | if* |
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| 19:11.23 | jhutchins | nickgaw: Are you sure you're looking at the sshd_config, not ssh_config? |
| 19:11.50 | nickgaw | http://paste.debian.net/873341 is my sshd_config file. |
| 19:12.19 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: line 28 |
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| 19:13.19 | nickgaw | What should it read? |
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| 19:14.12 | jhutchins | nickgaw: It should have one of the options listed in the manpage. |
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| 19:14.44 | nickgaw | I want to be able to use my root password so what should I set it to? |
| 19:15.16 | obo_ | Please have any feedback about dotdeb repositroy, is it a good one ? |
| 19:15.22 | greycat | nickgaw: change whatever your line says, to "PermitRootLogin yes" if that's what you want. |
| 19:15.27 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell obo_ about dotdeb |
| 19:15.51 | nickgaw | dpkg dotdeb |
| 19:15.51 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
| 19:16.09 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: you can message the bot, there are examples in the /topic |
| 19:17.54 | nickgaw | ok now I am able to login using my password how can I delete my pastebin or how long are they kept? |
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| 19:24.45 | b6s3d | `Kevin: well, lets wait and hear from the provider |
| 19:26.36 | `Kevin | b6s3d: yep :) i have a few assumptions but it all lies on the provider... they could be proxying your cxn or something weird which they may not even reveal that and/or the installer is modified or busted |
| 19:27.41 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: you don't need to worry about a pastebin with a default config file |
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| 19:28.47 | nickgaw | but how long are they stored and if I would ever need to delete one is this possible? |
| 19:29.10 | greycat | Depends on the paste site. Some of them have buttons you can click to select a storage duration before posting. |
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| 19:29.49 | Iridos | the site tells you on the page where you send the pastebin and usually you can select a duration |
| 19:29.57 | nickgaw | what is pastebinit's paste.debian.net policy? |
| 19:30.01 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: go to the url for your paste. it says on it how long it is active for. if you are the author of the paste, there's a delete link |
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| 19:30.49 | nickgaw | I used pastebinit the console program can I ever delete pastes like that? |
| 19:30.55 | greycat | P.S. sshd_config(8) says the default for PermitRootLogin is "yes", so if you DIDN'T have a PermitRootLogin line, the default would have let you in. |
| 19:31.36 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: probably not. you shouldn't make pastes of files with private information in them, without sanitizing them first. by default sshd_config has nothing private in it. |
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| 19:32.21 | Iridos | except for the "let_everyone_in" option |
| 19:32.34 | nickgaw | does paste.debian.net automatically delete pastes after a while? |
| 19:32.40 | greycat | Go there and see. |
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| 19:34.18 | greycat | Also P.S. your had "PermitRootLogin without-password". Line 28. |
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| 19:34.57 | nickgaw | I changed it to yes and am now able to login as root. |
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| 19:35.34 | jmcnaught | nickgaw: you should really consider using SSH keys and disabling password authentication in SSH, especially if you're the paranoid type that asks about paste expiry |
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| 19:36.40 | nickgaw | I don't care if my pastes expire or not I was just wondering if it can be removed or not as you said no big deal about sshd_config as it was a stock file. |
| 19:37.00 | greycat | If you go to the paste you created you will see whether it expires or not. |
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| 19:40.56 | teraflops | nickgaw: ptpb has vanity, expiration, sunset, uuid, and deletion for fun and profit ;) |
| 19:41.39 | teraflops | it also accepts files too including little binaries video and image |
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| 19:41.53 | teraflops | no I'm not selling it :P |
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| 19:42.46 | Hard-Dev | The demo is free to download and play! The full version is very very cheap, please buy it! It will payback all my sweat and blood and tears and tribulations... |
| 19:42.46 | Hard-Dev | https://ng-developer.itch.io/nitrux |
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| 19:44.51 | jhutchins | Probably a good idea to google your proposed project name to see if it's already being used for something else. |
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| 20:12.32 | user696969 | hi |
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| 20:13.38 | user696969 | whats the best way to install nvidia drivers? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 https://linuxconfig.org/nvidia-geforce-driver-installation-on-debian-jessie-linux-8-64bit |
| 20:13.45 | user696969 | or other way? |
| 20:14.05 | greycat | Whatever the wiki says is probably the best advice for *most* computers. But there's always some new crazy thing. |
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| 20:17.38 | jmcnaught | user696969: use the nvidia-detect program mentioned on the debian wiki page to figure out which version of the drivers you need. whatever you do, make sure to use Debian packages (not installer scripts), and really consider if nouveau is meeting your needs |
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| 20:36.20 | whiskey_soda | Hey guys, if anyone's around I could use some help with a botched apache2 install |
| 20:36.47 | whiskey_soda | I did a purge on it and php5, cleaned up the configs and still the same problem is persisting |
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| 20:40.20 | arvind | hi, what is the name of the bot again that can check backports and can list solution to certain things i.e listening packages from different repo's or sort on size, greycat did this once but I can't find it in the log anymore. |
| 20:40.34 | greycat | judd |
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| 20:41.17 | rattking | whiskey_soda: we are going to need some details, such as exact error messages. |
| 20:41.59 | whiskey_soda | the apache2 service refuses to start. it's saying there's a problem in mods-enabled/userdir.conf line 1 |
| 20:43.17 | whiskey_soda | invalid command a2enmod |
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| 20:44.08 | rattking | whats on mods-enabled/userdir.conf line 1? |
| 20:45.47 | whiskey_soda | @rattking a2enmod userdir |
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| 20:48.15 | rattking | hmm a2enmod is suppose to be in the apache2 package.. I wonder where that went |
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| 20:49.12 | whiskey_soda | i'm going to apt-get apache2 back and see if it's giving me the same error as the last few times. |
| 20:50.29 | whiskey_soda | just tried installing it and apache2.service failed |
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| 20:50.38 | b6s3d | can't update my server: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918448 |
| 20:50.42 | b6s3d | what can i do? |
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| 20:52.22 | whiskey_soda | tried to apt-get install a2enmod; Unable to locate package. |
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| 20:55.56 | rattking | a2enmod is suppose to be in the apache2 package -- https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/apache2/filelist |
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| 20:57.01 | rattking | maybe /usr/sbin is not in your path ?? |
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| 20:57.51 | whiskey_soda | going to check for the files right now |
| 20:58.42 | whiskey_soda | the files exist in /usr/sbin/ |
| 20:58.52 | whiskey_soda | what do you mean by not in my path? |
| 20:59.09 | humbot | did you say mods-enabled/userdir.conf contains an a2enmod command ? |
| 20:59.13 | whiskey_soda | yep |
| 20:59.25 | nullbyte_ | for which year is schudle debian9 |
| 20:59.31 | humbot | are they supposed to work like that ? |
| 20:59.33 | nullbyte_ | maybe... |
| 20:59.53 | jmcnaught | nullbyte_: it gets frozen next month, then release when there are no release critical bugs left |
| 21:00.02 | jmcnaught | probably spring 2017 |
| 21:00.08 | nullbyte_ | mh |
| 21:00.10 | nullbyte_ | oks |
| 21:00.15 | nkuttler | what? we aready get a freeze? |
| 21:00.28 | nullbyte_ | freezy:) |
| 21:00.53 | humbot | like, a2enmod is a command you only use once |
| 21:00.55 | whiskey_soda | the command is just a2enmod userdir |
| 21:01.12 | whiskey_soda | should i just remove it? |
| 21:01.12 | b6s3d | can't update my server: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918448 what do? |
| 21:01.18 | jmcnaught | https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html (freeze might be a little later) |
| 21:01.36 | rattking | I havent used apache in a long time but I think you are suppose to run that once and not have it in a config file |
| 21:01.45 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: please start using http://paste.debian.net/ to show commands and output, and also config files that have errors |
| 21:02.04 | humbot | that command just links mods-available/userdir.conf into mods-enabled/ |
| 21:02.32 | jmcnaught | b6s3d: try a different mirror |
| 21:02.38 | b6s3d | i did |
| 21:03.42 | b6s3d | os: Debian Minimal Jessie 8.5 |
| 21:04.14 | jmcnaught | b6s3d: is that a template provided by your VPS? there isn't a "Debian Minimal Jessie" |
| 21:04.31 | jmcnaught | b6s3d: can you wget or curl those URLs? |
| 21:04.45 | `Kevin | jmcnaught: it is, and from what i have gathered his vps provider is questionable |
| 21:04.51 | whiskey_soda | alright, ill keep it then. I'm putting together a pastebin, anything else I should include other than the file? |
| 21:05.00 | b6s3d | VPS: YES wget> ? |
| 21:05.20 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: the commands that you type that have errors, and their complete output |
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| 21:05.38 | b6s3d | i questioned my vps provider, still waiting for an answer |
| 21:05.50 | jmcnaught | b6s3d: anytime someone suggests a command and you don't know it, type "man that_command" |
| 21:05.54 | b6s3d | i just think its weird that i can ssh into the machine but can't get updates |
| 21:06.20 | b6s3d | i know wget, just don't know what you want me to wget |
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| 21:07.46 | jmcnaught | b6s3d: you showed a paste of apt-get unable to connect to http://ftp.debian.org/... |
| 21:07.47 | b6s3d | isis.rezometz.org? wtf |
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| 21:13.08 | whiskey_soda | alright, here's the pastebin |
| 21:13.08 | whiskey_soda | http://paste.debian.net/873583/ |
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| 21:13.26 | b6s3d | well.. i can ping security.debian.org |
| 21:14.28 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf should not have 'a2enmod userdir' in it. Remove the lines above <IfModule mod_userdir.c> (but leave that line) |
| 21:15.08 | whiskey_soda | sweet, thanks. will do. any idea how it got there? |
| 21:15.08 | TomTomTosch | b6s3d: is a proxy configured for apt? most likely in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 21:15.19 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: user error is my guess :P |
| 21:15.52 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: haha i'd like to say so but i never screwed with that one |
| 21:16.08 | b6s3d | root@hostname:~# ls /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 21:16.08 | b6s3d | 01autoremove 01autoremove-kernels 70debconf |
| 21:16.24 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: have you read /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz? this explains the apache config layout on Debian. |
| 21:16.46 | whiskey_soda | I also have subsonic server installed, maybe that did something on install? |
| 21:16.55 | b6s3d | TomTomTosch ^ |
| 21:17.00 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: nope, that's probably a good idea though |
| 21:17.06 | missmbob | b6s3d: so..you're not on jessie, right? |
| 21:17.17 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: http://paste.debian.net/873615/ <--- this is the stock Debian version of userdir.conf |
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| 21:17.34 | b6s3d | yes |
| 21:17.41 | b6s3d | how can i issue a command for you to check? |
| 21:17.46 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: what is subsonic? |
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| 21:18.08 | missmbob | b6s3d: that autoremove file didnt come into play until a couple of months ago irrc |
| 21:18.12 | missmbob | iirc* |
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| 21:19.23 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: its an audio streaming service, it has a web interface on :4040 but I didn't think it had anything to do with apache. Maybe java. |
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| 21:19.42 | jmcnaught | missmbob: my jessie systems have 01autoremove and 01autoremove-kernels |
| 21:20.36 | TomTomTosch | b6s3d: inside /etc/apt/apt.conf is also a possibility if that file exists. it would look something like Acquire::http::Proxy "<proxy>" |
| 21:21.05 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: if you installed software that didn't come from the Debian archives, it's possible that some of it is low quality and messed up your apache configs. It's more likely that you made some sort of simple mistake trying to use a2enmod |
| 21:21.06 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: apache2 is active and running! thanks man! |
| 21:21.16 | b6s3d | no TomTomTosch |
| 21:21.34 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: check out that README.Debian.gz file |
| 21:22.24 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: I'm going to bank on the former, i've never heard nything that sounds like a2enmod until the apache2 error and I wasn't using apache2 before that. |
| 21:22.40 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: definitely will do. |
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| 21:23.55 | whiskey_soda | now does anyone want to give me the safest way to have apache listening on a port other than 80? |
| 21:27.37 | teraflops | perhaps I'm loosing context but it sounds like an xy question |
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| 21:31.47 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: what does it say about ports in that README.Debian.gz? |
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| 21:34.32 | teraflops | s/loosing/missing ^ |
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| 21:36.06 | hanshenrik_ | what's the difference between rename and mv? |
| 21:37.14 | sm00th | mv moves it |
| 21:37.19 | hanshenrik_ | and rename? |
| 21:37.20 | sm00th | and renames at same time |
| 21:37.25 | hanshenrik_ | ... |
| 21:37.30 | hanshenrik_ | mv does that too |
| 21:37.39 | sm00th | i was talkinga bout mv, guess I don't know what rename is |
| 21:37.57 | hanshenrik_ | i don't know either, but it exists in /usr/bin/rename for some reason |
| 21:38.01 | whiskey_soda | ports.conf and a virtualhost got it up |
| 21:38.06 | jmcnaught | rename is a perl script. it does have a man page. |
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| 21:38.59 | hanshenrik_ | ohh, rename has the ability to rename several files in a single invocation, it seems (not sure if mv can do this with wildcards? ) |
| 21:39.13 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: nice. the official apache httpd docs are also an excellent reference, but you need to read them in the context of how Debian organizes the configuration files (which is different than upstream) |
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| 21:40.13 | sm00th | hanshenrik_, ah |
| 21:40.35 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: makes sense, i was able to do more with poking around through /apache2/ than anything on the net. I'm just going to have to dedicate some time to the docs. |
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| 21:42.06 | hanshenrik_ | whiskey_soda, not sure about apache, but for nginx, the debian way is much better than upstream imo :p |
| 21:42.58 | hanshenrik_ | (had some servers running upstream config on fedora, changed them to debian-style configs manually lel) |
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| 21:51.00 | whiskey_soda | yeesh, it's always one thing into the next. Anyone have any idea why info.php is just showing the code itself and not the php? php5 is definitely installed. |
| 21:51.43 | themill | the 'php5' package isn't necessarily the one your httpd will make use of |
| 21:52.14 | whiskey_soda | how would I go about fixing that? |
| 21:52.18 | hanshenrik_ | does bash have anything like c's RETURN_FAILURE? or should i just return 1? |
| 21:52.27 | hanshenrik_ | i mean, EXIT_FAILURE |
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| 21:55.52 | whiskey_soda | so httpd.conf seems to be apache2.conf now. I'll keep digging. |
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| 22:00.05 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: once again i recommend reading that README.Debian.gz before making any more changes in /etc/apache2/, not after stuff doesn't work :) The easiest way to use php5 with apache2 is to install the libapache2-mod-php5 package |
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| 22:01.40 | whiskey_soda | just installed the package, definitely what I was looking for. what's the location of README.Debian.gz again? I think I should just finally do that. |
| 22:02.34 | jmcnaught | whiskey_soda: every Debian package has a /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE directory, often with a README.Debian file. You want to read the one for the apache2 package |
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| 22:06.01 | whiskey_soda | jmcnaught: thanks! checking it out now |
| 22:07.13 | otyugh_II | hey |
| 22:08.11 | otyugh_II | does NFS needs o+rX to all the path to the shared directory, or can I give it a specific "gid/uid" ? |
| 22:08.33 | otyugh_II | I don't find out into the documentation |
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| 22:55.06 | foldingchair | i did some research, and it appears that debian does not support EFI boot. am i correct? |
| 22:55.17 | mtn | no |
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| 22:55.57 | mtn | !efi |
| 22:55.57 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases support installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. http://www.uefi.org/ |
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| 22:58.00 | foldingchair | do i need to do something to be able to boot debian from an EFI computer? there's no /EFI/BOOT folder in the iso i downloaded |
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| 23:00.19 | mtn | foldingchair: are you saying you can't boot the install disk? |
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| 23:01.25 | foldingchair | mtn, that's correct. i can't boot into it unless i enable BIOS emulation (called compatibility support module in my CMOS setup) and select the boot device without a "UEFI:" prefix |
| 23:01.37 | somiaj | foldingchair: which iso did you download? Note debian iso's are hybrid and support legacy/efi and both cdrom and usb boot, so due to this just looking at the image you may not see the efi partition. |
| 23:01.38 | mtn | foldingchair: is this a live disk? |
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| 23:03.24 | foldingchair | somiaj, i downloaded debian-live-8.6.0-amd64-kde-desktop+nonfree.iso |
| 23:03.56 | foldingchair | mtn, i believe so. if i boot into it using legacy mode, i can see the desktop. |
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| 23:04.24 | mtn | foldingchair: I am not sure, but I don't think the live disks support efi. the netinstall does, though |
| 23:04.51 | foldingchair | mtn, netinstall is just a minimal image that requires internet right? |
| 23:05.21 | mtn | foldingchair: yes, but you can finish a basic install without internet |
| 23:05.22 | somiaj | foldingchair: you can install a base system without internet, but yes you will need the internet to install more than a minimal base system |
| 23:05.30 | somiaj | any of the offical cd/dvd images (not live) also support efi |
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| 23:07.31 | foldingchair | mtn, i would rather keep a copy of the full install media |
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| 23:08.50 | somiaj | foldingchair: there are cd size images for installing specific desktops or just grab the dvd image if you want a physical copy. |
| 23:08.53 | foldingchair | mtn, somiaj, i'm using the unofficial nonfree build because it comes with drivers for my hardware. is there a non-live non-netinstall with nonfree drivers build (that supports EFI)? |
| 23:09.01 | mtn | foldingchair: as somiaj just said, the official install disks work |
| 23:09.22 | somiaj | foldingchair: the only unoffical images with firmware is the netinstall or the live imgaes. |
| 23:09.36 | foldingchair | somiaj, ok i see |
| 23:09.40 | somiaj | foldingchair: but if you have the full dvd you can do a complete install. Copy the firmware over after the install, then configure internet sources and get the seucirty fixes that way |
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| 23:11.56 | flugger | foldingchair:I found this helpful http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=120251 |
| 23:12.14 | foldingchair | flugger, thanks. reading now |
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| 23:14.18 | Resilience | I was using systemd-shim as my init system, but the last sudo apt-et update && upgrade cicle has installed systemd without me being aware of this, my computer restarted as I was slepping and now systemd does not bring up the ne network so I can get bacj systmd-shim and friends, I hae tried to bring up the network manually and configuring the systemd files, nothing worked, here are my configuration files and command ouput http://pastebin.com |
| 23:14.18 | Resilience | /TzKtc95Z |
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| 23:16.25 | Elronnd | is there a real difference between apt and |
| 23:16.30 | Elronnd | apt-get? |
| 23:16.31 | Resilience | if you don't mind I will repeat it, becuase it get cut |
| 23:16.40 | Resilience | I was using systemd-shim as init system, but the last sudo apt-get update/upgrade cycle has installed systemd without me being aware of this, my computer restarted as I was sleeping and now systemd does not bring up the ne network so I can get back systemd-shim, I have tried to bring up the network manually and configuring the systemd files, nothing worked, here are my configuration files and command ouput http://pastebin.com/TzKtc95Z |
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| 23:25.58 | Resilience | some ideas please? |
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| 23:33.56 | foldingchair | mtn, somiaj, thought about this. what if someone has a computer that requires uefi and requires nonfree drivers? is it possible for them to run debian without using the netinstall iso? |
| 23:35.41 | somiaj | foldingchair: yes, there are ways to load the firmware from another device during the install. Problem is it works good if installing from the cdrom and the firmware is on a usb. It ends up being tricker if booting from a usb and you want to load firmware from a usb. There is a way to do it though. |
| 23:36.04 | somiaj | read the install guide for the suggested way to get firmware (and note it sometimes has issues if installing from usb but works fine if installing from cdrom/dvd) |
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| 23:36.51 | foldingchair | somiaj, ok, will read install guide. thanks. |
| 23:36.53 | somiaj | Elronnd: yes, though apt is trying to unify all the apt-get, apt-cache, commands into one. But apt does provide some differences. |
| 23:37.13 | somiaj | Resilience: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 23:37.30 | Elronnd | somiaj: like what? |
| 23:37.45 | somiaj | Elronnd: I can't list the differences off the top of my head, I just know they are there. |
| 23:38.01 | Elronnd | ah, okay |
| 23:38.06 | somiaj | Elronnd: but the difference are not as great as say apt-get and aptitude for instance |
| 23:38.12 | Resilience | somiaj have you read the pastebn? |
| 23:38.27 | somiaj | Resilience: no, I was just courious if you experienced this on jessie or testing. |
| 23:39.17 | Resilience | somiaj, testing, but it uses to be more people here (mmm is it said so? it uses to be...) |
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| 23:41.11 | somiaj | Resilience: sounds like a bug. testing support is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. And systemd-shim is not an initsystem, it is a package needed to allow you to run another init system besides systemd. I would check the BTS or track down what dependcy issue is forcing systemd to be installed and not allowing you to keep your init system of choice. |
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| 23:45.36 | Resilience | somiaj, I am not interested in your rant, please, read the pastebin paste, and please only guide me about the trouble wihth dhclient issue, not inteerested in systemd , and not interested in filling not erro report about systemd, notinterested in systemd, just in upping manually the network |
| 23:46.04 | mtn | heh |
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| 23:50.55 | doebi | how would i want to handle a dual GPU setup with debian? |
| 23:51.33 | doebi | in addition to the intel onboard gpu, my thinkpad also has a dedicated nvidia gpu |
| 23:51.50 | Resilience | asi I said |
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| 23:52.22 | somiaj | doebi: sounds like optimus technology. This isn't that well supported in debian. I usually suggest if you can configure your bios to only use one that is the easiest. There is also bumblebee to allow switching between them. |
| 23:52.26 | somiaj | !bumblebee |
| 23:52.26 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:53.39 | Resilience | I have experienced "issues" with dhclient, trying to bring u the newtork manually, it doies not get the nameservers, I don't why, I have put the problem in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/TzKtc95Z If someone knows what's going wrong with dhclient and nameservers I would be very thankful |
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| 23:59.05 | doebi | somiaj: thanks for the hint |
| 23:59.37 | doebi | according to glxinfo, my machine is all set to only use intel |
| 23:59.56 | doebi | but one application is crashing and yielding some libgl errors |
