| 00:00.14 | doebi | libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so |
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| 00:01.43 | somiaj | Resilience: If it is getting wlan0 up and just need a nameserver, use 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' in /etc/resolv.conf (the error appears to be unknown interface eth0 which might be mentioned in your interfaces file) |
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| 00:02.27 | somiaj | doebi: is this debian jessie on the 3.16 kernel? |
| 00:02.59 | somiaj | doebi: do you want to be able to switch between both gpu, or would you prefer to just one over the other (either only intel or only nvidia)? |
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| 00:03.36 | doebi | somiaj: i want the application to work, either gpu is fine |
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| 00:04.02 | doebi | stretch, 4.7.5 |
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| 00:05.08 | Resilience | somiaj, pastebin lines 249 through 256, the nameserver is put there |
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| 00:06.08 | somiaj | doebi: well check demsg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log and make sure the kms driver for the intel card is loading correctly. |
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| 00:06.43 | somiaj | doebi: also do you know if you can disable the intel card in your firmware and force it to only use the nvidia gpu, in that case you can install the non-free nvidia drivers if that is the card you want to use. the bumblebee is if you want to use the switching technology. |
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| 00:07.56 | doebi | [drm:intel_dp_start_link_train [i915]] *ERROR* failed to update link training |
| 00:07.58 | somiaj | Resilience: your interfaces file as eth0 mentioned in it and it seems this is not the name of the interface anymore. Since using wlan0 you can comment out the eth0 lines in your interfaces file and I think this will stop the service from erroring out. As for your nameserver issue. Try to put 8.8.8.8 as the first nameserver or just comment out your local 192.168.1.1 nameserver (maybe that is where the issue |
| 00:08.04 | somiaj | is) |
| 00:08.12 | somiaj | doebi: that is yoru error, but I don't recongize what it could mean. |
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| 00:09.24 | doebi | somiaj: hmm thanks so far. me either. :/ |
| 00:09.49 | somiaj | Resilience: check the output of 'route', is is wanting to route though wlan0 or eth0 by default? |
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| 00:12.36 | ferna_ | hello i have a very simple script to probe for ping and ssh I want to answer "No" when ssh makes a connection and ask me if i want to accept the ECDSA |
| 00:12.47 | ferna_ | http://paste.debian.net/874019/ |
| 00:12.49 | somiaj | Resilience: also ping 192.168.1.1 and ping 8.8.8.8 (can you get pings outside of your machine) |
| 00:12.50 | ferna_ | Thank you |
| 00:13.10 | ferna_ | How do i answer "no" |
| 00:13.15 | ferna_ | the echo is not working |
| 00:15.05 | somiaj | ferna_: is your goal just to check if port 22 is open on the remote machine? |
| 00:15.39 | ferna_ | no, I need the actual question.... |
| 00:15.48 | ferna_ | but i do not want to accept |
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| 00:17.35 | somiaj | I don't see any where in the manpage to default to say no to that question. |
| 00:18.34 | Resilience | somiaj 192.168.1.30 is my machine, is pinged and is accesible, it is aproblem with nameserversor maybe rute, I wil try pingin 8.8.8.8 and running route (I have bboted indows in my machine and I need to restart to test those things, I will do it later, becuase I am working rght now) |
| 00:19.01 | doebi | somiaj: might be this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75857 |
| 00:20.18 | somiaj | Resilience: well it looks like it is either the nameserver 192.168.1.1 (your router I'm assuming) is having issues or you are having a routingg issue. If you are not using eth0 you can comment out the 'auto eth0' line in the interfaces file to keep that interface from being brought up automatically at boot |
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| 00:21.23 | ferna_ | hello i want answer no tho this question: |
| 00:21.25 | ferna_ | The authenticity of host '45.63.11.193 (45.63.11.193)' can't be established. |
| 00:21.26 | ferna_ | RSA key fingerprint is a6:28:77:ce:e2:ad:52:12:25:66:a4:fe:cc:47:4f:82. |
| 00:21.28 | ferna_ | Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? |
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| 00:22.37 | Resilience | somia yes 192.168..1 is my router, and no it i snot having any issues, it was working everything ok and when my machine was restarted with systemd it was not working, so it s aystemd "issue" (problem) and I only wnat to restart MANUALLY the network ssytem to reinstall sysVinit (hich works ok always) |
| 00:23.34 | somiaj | Resilience: check your routes and ping 192.168.1.1 next time you get a chance. I hope that helps you figure out where the issue is. |
| 00:24.34 | somiaj | ferna_: I am not seeing a way to do this. Maybe someone in ##bash (assuming your script is in bash) knows how to send the imput of 'no' to that question in a script. |
| 00:24.53 | Resilience | somiaj, yes, you've been very supportuve, at least I know two steps more to make, but again if dhclient brings up wlan, and I get 7etc/resolv.conf with nameserver 8.8.8.8 why it doe snot caught? |
| 00:25.02 | ferna_ | Thanks somiaj |
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| 00:30.48 | somiaj | Resilience: the paste makes it look like a routing issue that though wlan0 is brougt up, when it errors out on eth0 the route gets messed up and you can't actually get outside of your machine due to a bad route. I would comment out the auto eth0 line and only use your wlan0. |
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| 01:18.05 | Mazhive | hello guys some one interrested to what kind of problem i have ??? |
| 01:18.29 | dvs | !ask |
| 01:18.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 01:19.08 | Mazhive | i try to mount davfs2 but it seems i get this message after mounting it.. /sbin/mount.davfs: Warning: can't write entry into mtab, but will mount the file system anyway |
| 01:19.31 | Mazhive | after that troubles starts with all kinds of freezes.. |
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| 01:20.23 | Mazhive | so i think it is kind of a permission problem i think.. |
| 01:20.46 | Mazhive | i am running debian 7 |
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| 01:21.08 | somiaj | Mazhive: ls -l /etc/mtab /proc/mounts and the output of 'mount' |
| 01:21.22 | somiaj | Mazhive: paste the output at paste.debian.net |
| 01:21.33 | Mazhive | after i mounted it or before.. |
| 01:21.59 | somiaj | Mazhive: either or |
| 01:22.19 | somiaj | Mazhive: the issue is with either / is read-only or somthing with /proc or the link /etc/mtab |
| 01:22.39 | Mazhive | they are symlinked to /proc/mounts and self/mounts |
| 01:23.09 | somiaj | Mazhive: ok ls -l /proc/self/mounts |
| 01:23.49 | somiaj | Mazhive: note you are only getting a warning so it isn't a big deal. It appears that /etc/mtab is read-only on my system so wonder if it is just tell the kernel to update mtab incorrectly |
| 01:24.06 | Mazhive | user has acces on this file with only read acces attrib |
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| 01:25.17 | Mazhive | strangly i get freezes after mounting |
| 01:25.26 | Mazhive | like instantly |
| 01:26.06 | Mazhive | cursor blinks but does not react on typping |
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| 01:27.02 | Mazhive | have to kill the process with a second terminal and o on.. |
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| 01:27.42 | Mazhive | even a plain ls /home |
| 01:27.42 | somiaj | ,v davfs2 |
| 01:27.49 | judd | Package: davfs2 on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 1.4.6-1.1+wheezy1; wheezy: 1.4.6-1.1+wheezy1; jessie: 1.5.2-1; sid: 1.5.4-2; stretch: 1.5.4-2 |
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| 01:28.24 | somiaj | I don't know davfs2 so unsure what the issue could be. I see that error comes up and there may be a -n or --no-mtab option but that may not fix why it is freezing |
| 01:29.04 | Mazhive | i have done the --no-mtab option |
| 01:30.27 | somiaj | I see this warning and various issues with davfs2 from google hits, but don't see any definite debuging/solution. I dno't know this filesystem so not sure I can be of that much help |
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| 01:36.09 | Mazhive | anyway thanx for responding.. appreciate it.. |
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| 02:30.03 | Resilience2 | I am trying to bring up the network manually (because it doe snot get up wih the conf files) Iand it do snot get up manually, it seems to fail at routing (I think) ouput and conf files are here: http://pastebin.com/VGpWNs3x anyone can help e? |
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| 02:30.17 | mrtrump | when 87? |
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| 02:30.20 | mrtrump | 86 nice |
| 02:30.20 | mrtrump | wow |
| 02:30.26 | mrtrump | way faster than 0penbsd |
| 02:30.31 | mrtrump | JFS here |
| 02:31.21 | somiaj | Resilience2: so pinging your router failed? |
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| 02:32.21 | somiaj | Resilience2: your gateway of 0.0.0.0 looks weird. I would think that should be 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:32.49 | somiaj | Resilience2: do you still have an auto eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 02:32.52 | Resilience2 | somiaj yes, it failed, and you can see the oputput of route in the pastebin |
| 02:33.08 | Resilience2 | somiaj ah, yes, I still have it |
| 02:33.27 | Resilience2 | why is it aproblem? |
| 02:33.29 | somiaj | Resilience2: your gateway is not set up correctly. I would comment out the auto eth0 line (since you are using wlan0, you don't want that to be brought up automatically) |
| 02:33.43 | somiaj | Resilience2: all that line does is bring up the itnerface at boot. If you are not pluged into a wire at boot this will cause a problem. |
| 02:35.09 | somiaj | Resilience2: try this, route del default && route add default 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:35.35 | somiaj | Resilience2: oh wait, be careful that is freebsd. Need to double check linux syntax |
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| 02:38.10 | somiaj | Resilience2: 'ip route del default' (Should delete that default route) then 'ip route add default via 192.168.1.1' -- that should delete that default route and then add one using your correct gateway. also look at the output of ip route show and ip route list. |
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| 02:40.11 | Resilience3 | somiaj thanks, I am going to reboot and try this :) |
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| 03:18.23 | Resilience2 | somiaj, it worked, it seems lije the auto eth0 was the problem with systemd, I hacv changed it to allow-hotplug and it works fine now, thank you very much you've been very supporitve, patient and kind |
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| 03:19.05 | somiaj | Resilience2: yea it was trying to bring up an interface that shoudln't be brought up messing with your routes. |
| 03:19.32 | somiaj | Resilience2: in the future, debian testing support is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
| 03:19.53 | Resilience2 | somiakwell, with init ti was working flawlessly, it is been so since... always (5 years oro more) |
| 03:20.23 | Resilience2 | somiaj, I know, but i don't think this is a testing7stable issue, ti was a generic one |
| 03:21.57 | somiaj | Resilience2: well hopefully you can get back to sysvinit. |
| 03:23.38 | Resilience2 | somiaj, the worst part was being stuck out of the network, as you can see, my windows boot was not going smooth... It was worst than systemd really (in fact, my problem was with not having network connection, and not with having systemd) |
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| 03:27.09 | romeu | Hi, please someone help me, I can't build Atom.io |
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| 03:28.33 | pingfloyd | romeu: there's a deb package for it |
| 03:29.52 | somiaj | Resilience2: this would have probably fixed your issue. 'ifdown wlan0' 'ifdown eth0' (sometimes it may say --force those). then just 'ifup wlan0' (those will bring up/down interfaces mentioned in the interfaces file. All systemd or sysvinit does is bring them up at boot if there is an auto line. This may help you with network issues if you run into them again. |
| 03:29.55 | pingfloyd | romeu: you can download the .deb file from a link here http://flight-manual.atom.io/getting-started/sections/installing-atom/ or here https://atom.io/ |
| 03:34.32 | Resilience2 | somiaj as I understand if I put allow-hotplug eth0 means that when I pulg in the wire for eth0 it woill be brought up,right? |
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| 03:36.10 | romeu | @kirrishg my arch is (i386) theres only (64bit) .deb package. So I need to build on my own |
| 03:39.35 | romeu | I can't build Atom.io http://pastebin.com/LNAySDav |
| 03:40.07 | jmcnaught | romeu: please you a different pastebin. your link wants me to solve a captcha. |
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| 03:40.19 | jmcnaught | cringes at https://github.com/atom/atom/blob/master/docs/build-instructions/linux.md |
| 03:40.37 | somiaj | Resilience2: correct |
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| 03:42.42 | jmcnaught | romeu: i hope you haven't installed gcc5 from the ubuntu PPA like those instructions say to do |
| 03:42.42 | romeu | here's the another paste https://jpst.it/Ol8p |
| 03:43.12 | romeu | I did yes, update from strech gcc5 |
| 03:43.45 | jmcnaught | romeu: did you install stretch packages on jessie? |
| 03:44.36 | romeu | yes, add it on sourcelist |
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| 03:45.39 | jmcnaught | romeu: you cannot mix testing and stable. right now you have bigger problems than atom.io won't compile. Do you know how many stretch packages were installed? |
| 03:46.34 | romeu | just g++5 |
| 03:46.42 | romeu | and a lot of ones |
| 03:47.13 | jmcnaught | romeu: here is a command to list packages not from jessie: aptitude search '~S ~i !~A^stable' |
| 03:47.45 | jmcnaught | you can add "| nc termbin.com 9999" (without quotes) to put it on a paste site |
| 03:48.31 | jmcnaught | if it's just a few, you can try a partial downgrade. Otherwise you'll want finish the upgrade to stretch, or reinstall jessie if you don't want to run the development branch |
| 03:48.54 | jmcnaught | but you can't run a stable/testing hybrid |
| 03:49.55 | Resilience2 | somiaj, and what about being the ethernet cable plugged and the laptop powered off, when powered on, allow-hotplug will bring up the eth interface? |
| 03:50.39 | romeu | here the packages https://jpst.it/Ol99 |
| 03:51.23 | jmcnaught | romeu: can you do it again with version numbers? aptitude -F '%p %v %V %t' search '~S ~i !~A^stable' |
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| 03:51.57 | jmcnaught | just because i want to double check. that's a lot of packages, and libc6 is in the list.. |
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| 03:53.04 | romeu | the link https://jpst.it/Ol9x |
| 03:53.48 | jmcnaught | thanks |
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| 03:55.15 | jmcnaught | romeu: you've got a hybrid frankendebian system. you'll need to either finish the upgrade to stretch, or reinstall jessie |
| 03:55.22 | jmcnaught | !partial downgrade |
| 03:55.23 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 03:56.00 | jmcnaught | ^ you _could_ try that, but it won't be easy, quick, or reliable to downgrade that many packages |
| 03:56.21 | romeu | Maybe I will reistall, but how do I build atom (i386) properly here? |
| 03:56.37 | romeu | on a fresh install |
| 03:56.57 | hanshenrik_ | is it normal that running "/bin/bash /usr/bin/fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen bary-arch_amd64 -j 8" starts over 3000 concurrent processes? |
| 03:57.16 | hanshenrik_ | cus now it seems to make 3-4 new processes per second, and has been doing that for a while |
| 03:57.26 | hanshenrik_ | using some 5.2 GB ram thus far. |
| 03:57.45 | jmcnaught | romeu: what is your CPU? grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo | tail -n 1 |
| 03:58.51 | hanshenrik_ | oki now it finished with 100's of errors like arch/um/Makefile:115: recipe for target 'archheaders' failed |
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| 03:59.31 | jmcnaught | romeu: i recommend reading https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 04:02.05 | romeu | Thank you, I will reinstall jessie |
| 04:02.26 | jmcnaught | romeu: double check that you cannot use amd64 before reinstalling |
| 04:03.26 | romeu | model name : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz |
| 04:04.31 | romeu | it seems adm64 suport |
| 04:04.52 | jmcnaught | romeu: yeah. no need to install i386 again |
| 04:04.58 | romeu | nice |
| 04:06.01 | jmcnaught | romeu: you should still be careful about installing third party software. Debian systems work best when you stick to packages in Debian's archives (especially if you are a new user or lack the time for a high maintenance computer) |
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| 04:07.59 | romeu | tell me, I want to build some electron soon, what should I do about required version of Node.Js and all needed for build electron App? |
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| 04:08.28 | somiaj | Resilience2: I'm unsure there. It might only triger when udev catches the event and not if it is plugged in at boot. But 'ifup eth0' will bring it up at any time. |
| 04:10.07 | Resilience2 | somiaj, that's why my conf file had auto and allow-hotplug, auto for when it is started with he cable plugged and allow-hotplug for when it was running and ten plugged, two different scenarios |
| 04:10.33 | jmcnaught | romeu: it's a tough call. personally i think that javascript's sysadmin-hostile ecosystem makes it worth looking at alternatives to it. If you have to run node.js, your best option is probably the nodesource.com repo (but remember it could compromise upgrades of your Debian system), or using some wacky javascript package manager as a regular user (not as root, not installed system-wide) |
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| 04:13.23 | klys | ,versions binutils |
| 04:13.24 | judd | Package: binutils on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.22-8+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2.22-8+deb7u3; jessie: 2.25-5; sid: 2.27-8; stretch: 2.27-8 |
| 04:13.40 | somiaj | Resilience2: I really don't know what a prefered solution for that would be. If it works with sysvinit you can go back to what works. I think there should be a way you can check if the cable is pluged in before trying to bring up the interface, but I don't know of one. |
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| 04:14.15 | Resilience2 | somiaj, ah in the pre-up directory... |
| 04:14.23 | jmcnaught | Resilience2: why not use NetworkManager? |
| 04:14.51 | somiaj | Resilience2: you could also use something like avahi or set up an ip to fallback on if dhclient fails to get one. |
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| 04:15.10 | somiaj | but I guess that breaks hotplug because then it would be up. |
| 04:17.17 | Resilience2 | somiaj, I thought that if it cannot be brought up it owuled be let unconfigured and it wouldn't mess around with routes... |
| 04:18.01 | Resilience2 | owuled*would |
| 04:18.11 | Resilience2 | but it was most guessing |
| 04:18.45 | somiaj | Resilience2: I think that depends on what the init script thinks it should do if it fails. But in your case I think just a test for the cable before bringing up would be sufficent. |
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| 04:22.26 | Resilience2 | jmcnaught, basically because I still don't understand what it does neither how it does nor where it puts the configuration of the network so I can edit it with vim over a network, sure there is information about how to achieve all of this, but it seems as if the old /etc/network/interfaces systems is more documented and more palatable to some of us, you know, we're getting older and it's getting harder and harder to understand new tricks |
| 04:22.27 | Resilience2 | (and yes, I tied to read about it) |
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| 04:27.17 | jmcnaught | Resilience2: NetworkManager does seem easier to use when switching between networks. It keeps files in /etc/NetworkManager, and you can control it with nmcli and nmtui. I'm just bringing it up because I haven't needed to spend time troubleshooting it for several years, it's quite mature at this point |
| 04:28.56 | Resilience2 | jmcnaught, will take a look at it with that new info, thanks |
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| 04:30.06 | jmcnaught | Resilience2: of course there's also systemd-networkd which is available in jessie (and improved in stretch), but it doesn't seem as well suited to dealing with multiple wifi networks |
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| 04:34.53 | matu_ | Hi |
| 04:35.33 | matu_ | this is weird : I have installed Debian stable yesterday and everything was ok, but i have reinstalled the system and from now on the hdd let is always blinking in a very regular way |
| 04:35.57 | matu_ | it never stops |
| 04:36.03 | matu_ | oh ? |
| 04:36.17 | matu_ | it stopped |
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| 04:36.48 | klys | I have now verified with linux-4.8.1 a kernel build discrepancy which has something to do with CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START and CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN and binutils. jessie is unaffected. anything newer could freeze the boot process with values as low as 0x100000 |
| 04:36.57 | jmcnaught | matu_: spooky. you can use iotop to look at what's causing disk activity |
| 04:37.27 | matu_ | oh iotop is cool ! |
| 04:37.30 | matu_ | thank you ! |
| 04:39.43 | matu_ | it is so beautiful, nothing is writing on my hdd |
| 04:39.50 | matu_ | it is a perfect |
| 04:39.59 | matu_ | -a |
| 04:40.23 | matu_ | i could watch it for hours |
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| 04:43.39 | klys | ...0x200000 is also too small... |
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| 04:52.34 | klys | ...0x400000 is also too small... |
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| 04:55.44 | mrtrump | 8.6 is kik ass |
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| 04:56.04 | mrtrump | jfs here and wow I think openbsd has io problems or something it was slooooow |
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| 04:56.18 | mrtrump | I also kinda cheated and gave both disks to lvm |
| 04:56.20 | mrtrump | ;) |
| 04:56.32 | mrtrump | <---handsome tall devil with blue eyes and muscles |
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| 04:57.19 | mrtrump | anyone running g-wan? |
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| 05:04.42 | klys | ...0x800000 worked. |
| 05:06.08 | xsmltx | Hi, tell me please, does anyone know if I can switch what I see on my screen, between openbox and a second device connected through VGA to the machine were openbox is installed. Thank you. |
| 05:07.29 | mrtrump | ssh -XY other box and startx? |
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| 05:10.48 | klys | xsmltx, x11vnc ? |
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| 05:17.33 | xsmltx | Great, thank you very much, tell me please are there any others standards compliant more light-weight extensible window managers then openbox? |
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| 06:10.39 | pingfloyd | matu_: those two processes are normal and often the cause for it to regularly flash the led for a split second |
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| 06:13.34 | pingfloyd | matu_: it is usually jbd2 which is the ext4 journal writing to disk |
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| 06:56.58 | stoned | use a udev rule and touch something when dpms changes value to zero and remove the touched file to run whatever command you need when brightness again goes back to non-zero |
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| 07:34.21 | sagerdearia | Which package in synaptic package manager corresponds to the version of OpenGL installed as displayed with `glxinfo|grep "OpenGL version string"` ? |
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| 07:38.12 | arvind_ | sagerdearia, mesa-utils |
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| 07:39.53 | sagerdearia | arvind_, Is that just for glxinfo binary or does that affect which version of OpenGL is installed such that by upgrading mesa-utils, that OpenGL version would be upgraded? e.g. to latest version 4.5 |
| 07:40.23 | sagerdearia | I'm trying to upgrade OpenGL from 2.1 to 4.5 or at least 3.2 or higher. |
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| 07:41.35 | Drzacek | Anyone can recommend a tool/way to convert pdf file (single page from multipage document) to png/jpg image? |
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| 07:43.22 | stoned | Drzacek: imagemagick. |
| 07:43.34 | stoned | install and use convert |
| 07:43.37 | stoned | read it's manpage. |
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| 07:43.51 | stoned | somethingl ike convert -test.pdf -quality 100 someting.jpg |
| 07:43.56 | Drzacek | stoned, wait, I found out gimp can open pdfs! |
| 07:44.07 | Drzacek | and choose single page from it! |
| 07:44.20 | stoned | Oh I thought you wanted command line |
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| 07:44.39 | stoned | I don't use a lot of gooey programs. They are very gooey! |
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| 07:48.45 | mar77i | hmm. I'm trying to turn off my other laptop's mouse and keyboard. |
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| 07:49.50 | mar77i | thing is though, that I can't seem to do it through xinput, as this keeps throwing me badaccess x11 errors |
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| 07:58.30 | Drzacek | stoned, you can't edit images in cli |
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| 07:59.55 | mar77i | there's imagemagick :) |
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| 08:01.02 | mar77i | though, gimp does pdf reading more pretty okay, I guess. |
| 08:02.55 | stoned | Drzacek: you can do it. I told you about that earlier. |
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| 08:06.01 | halt | Hi guys, I use the official docker image to play around with debain, and test bootstap processes of disposable servers ( cloud infrastructure ) but I would love to do it offline of at least with less network traffic then now, so i wanted to create a caching web proxy for httpredir service and just at to my hosts file that it's me |
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| 08:06.48 | halt | but I learned that the redir service does just redirect |
| 08:06.59 | halt | and it's on http level not in dns |
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| 08:07.52 | halt | there for I would need to setup the caching proxy on the mirror which the httpredir service would redirect me to |
| 08:08.16 | mar77i | so, how would I deactivate the keyboard? |
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| 09:01.37 | God | m35, debian 8 |
| 09:01.38 | God | duh |
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| 09:12.56 | ENN13 | efnet news epsiode 13 https://youtu.be/gvX41zoyBy0 <- give it a listen before it gets removed ! Brought to you by Jason Bandy. |
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| 09:21.36 | ksk | tried 'stat' but you cannot use its format sequences in "--file-system" mode.. |
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| 09:26.24 | OpenTokix | ksk: df|tr -s " " |tr " " "," |
| 09:26.27 | God | haha |
| 09:26.34 | OpenTokix | ksk: Will give you a csv of the output |
| 09:26.45 | jelly | ksk: df -P is Pretty Peadable |
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| 09:27.08 | jelly | doesn't wrap lines, at least |
| 09:27.58 | ksk | will give it a try, thanks! |
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| 09:29.44 | OpenTokix | ksk: If its for monitoring, you can do the check_disk from nagios-plugins-basic |
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| 09:41.36 | neu-debianer | is it possible to "label" a mounted cifs-share in dolphin? or fstab? |
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| 09:49.36 | xenial64-user | neu-debianer http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-mount-cifs-windows-share/ |
| 09:49.40 | xenial64-user | ? |
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| 09:53.04 | neu-debianer | xenial64-user: read this link.. but theres no labelling option, right? |
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| 09:55.16 | xenial64-user | neu-debianer when I saw "easily access CIFS share from Linux and mount them as a regular filesystem" I presumed labelability ?. |
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| 10:44.35 | Hobbes` | How do I prevent an interface from acquiring an ipv6 address upon ifconfig intf up? |
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| 10:49.53 | maximilian | Hello. I did a distribution upgrade, and got a message that my raid array got degraded. Fdisk shows all the disks, but when I go to add the disk to the array I get cannot find /dev/sdb1 no such file or firectory. |
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| 10:50.02 | maximilian | Anyone got a hint? |
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| 10:53.04 | babilen | Hobbes`: Why? |
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| 10:54.32 | arvind | I saw somer error/warning messeges during bootup, where can I see them again? in what log file? |
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| 10:55.48 | God | arvind, dmesg |
| 10:55.51 | Hobbes` | babilen the interface gets bridged into a VM |
| 10:56.13 | arvind | god already checked it is not in dmesg |
| 10:56.28 | arvind | it the stuff that comes after the /dev/sd .... |
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| 10:56.39 | teraflops | arvind: journalctl -b 1 |
| 10:56.43 | sparkplug_2000bc | arvind: can i get god to check my dmesg to? |
| 10:56.46 | babilen | Hobbes`: You can disable ipv6, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend to do that. |
| 10:56.54 | babilen | Hobbes`: Any particular issue you are trying to fix? |
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| 10:57.19 | teraflops | well -b 1 sounds useless if the journal is not persistent |
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| 10:57.57 | Hobbes` | babilen it's an interface that gets bridged. So I don't want it on the network. |
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| 10:58.07 | arvind | teraflops, thanks |
| 10:58.48 | Hobbes` | babilen can ipv6 be disabled on a per interface basis? |
| 10:59.10 | teraflops | why? |
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| 11:00.28 | teraflops | Hobbes`: also it's your bridge how did you set it up? |
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| 11:00.54 | teraflops | ip -4 dev blah blah... |
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| 11:01.33 | Hobbes` | teraflops it's defined in the interfaces file |
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| 11:01.57 | teraflops | Hobbes`: then ifup is not what you want |
| 11:02.38 | Hobbes` | I want it not to acquire an ipv6 address |
| 11:02.45 | teraflops | but again why? |
| 11:03.03 | Hobbes` | because it shouldn't be on the network. |
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| 11:03.55 | Hobbes` | the interface goes into a bridge.. so it doesn't need any addresses on it. |
| 11:04.44 | teraflops | you give the information by chapters like a tv show^ |
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| 11:05.28 | Hobbes` | teraflops I gave it out right at the start |
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| 11:05.34 | FinalX | iface eth0 inet6 manual, should not get you an automatic address |
| 11:06.33 | Hobbes` | FinalX thanks |
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| 11:06.34 | teraflops | FinalX: you dont know what is he doing since he didnt paste the interfaces file |
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| 11:07.36 | babilen | Nor is Hobbed using the interface file at all |
| 11:07.39 | Hobbes` | teraflops why does that even matter? IPv6 addresses are assigned to interfaces even without any entry in the interfaces file |
| 11:07.43 | teraflops | Hobbes`: no you didnt |
| 11:07.47 | babilen | (at least "ifconfig ..." wouldn't work with it) |
| 11:08.06 | Hobbes` | teraflops not my fault you failed to read |
| 11:08.21 | Hobbes` | in any case... the bridge is irrelevant to what I asked. |
| 11:08.40 | teraflops | Hobbes`: ok good luck |
| 11:08.58 | babilen | And a link-local address isn't really much of a problem |
| 11:09.12 | Hobbes` | not link-local.. it's getting a globally routable one |
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| 11:09.20 | babilen | No it isn't |
| 11:09.27 | Hobbes` | does for me |
| 11:09.29 | babilen | Prove it |
| 11:09.41 | Hobbes` | ifconfig interface up <-- acuqires a globally routable one |
| 11:10.03 | babilen | (i.e. provide actual configuration and output) |
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| 11:10.10 | Hobbes` | no configuration at all |
| 11:10.14 | babilen | Furthermore you might want to use 'ip' in lieu of 'ifconfig' |
| 11:10.59 | teraflops | babilen: i already told him to do so but as you can see it's hard to help some people |
| 11:11.29 | babilen | *shrug* |
| 11:12.53 | Hobbes` | teraflops [14 Oct/16:30]< teraflops> ip -4 dev blah blah... |
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| 11:13.30 | Hobbes` | teraflops that was really helpful of you ... especially when my problem is ipv6 related. |
| 11:13.48 | teraflops | Hobbes`: please stop it |
| 11:13.54 | teraflops | good luck |
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| 11:16.31 | babilen | Hobbes`: So you are really not showing any output? |
| 11:17.38 | Hobbes` | babilen you want to see my ipv6 address and route? |
| 11:18.09 | Hobbes` | babilen here's a line 2405:204:540a:81b1::/64 dev usb0 proto kernel metric 256 expires 85274sec |
| 11:18.11 | babilen | I want to see what it is that you are complaining about, yes .. feel free to anonymise any data you are providing |
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| 11:18.51 | Hobbes` | anyways I think I've found the solution |
| 11:19.12 | Hobbes` | needs to be disabled in /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/*/autoconf |
| 11:19.14 | babilen | You can disable ipv6 in sysctl, but I'm still not convinced that you actually have a problem |
| 11:19.38 | Dagger | something like `pre-up sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.eth0_101.accept_ra=0` |
| 11:19.49 | Dagger | but I can't recall having to do this very frequently for bridges |
| 11:20.01 | babilen | Dagger: That wouldn't influence the ifconfig behaviour either |
| 11:20.08 | Hobbes` | babilen "ifconfig usb0 up" autoconfigures an ipv6 address on the interface. |
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| 11:21.03 | Hobbes` | a global ipv6 address and sets it as default route too. |
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| 11:21.30 | Hobbes` | default via fe80::acf3:a3ff:fe73:d8a8 dev usb0 proto ra metric 1024 expires 725sec hoplimit 64 |
| 11:21.36 | Dagger | hm, looks like ifupdown sets disable_ipv6=1 on bridge members. so if you set the bridge up in /e/n/i with "bridge_ports" then it'll be fine |
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| 11:22.00 | babilen | fe80:: is link local, isn't it? |
| 11:22.10 | Dagger | strictly it's not `ifconfig` that adds the IP/route, it's the kernel (acting on the RAs it receives once the interface is up) |
| 11:22.32 | Hobbes` | babilen thats' the gateway... the address on the interface isn't |
| 11:22.41 | babilen | I haven't seen *any* bridge configuration (or any configuration) fwiw |
| 11:23.22 | Hobbes` | babilen the bridge configuration is irrelevant.. the address is assigned independent of any bridge. |
| 11:24.04 | babilen | Nor commands and their output .. sure, Hobbes` can read http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+IPv6-HOWTO/proc-sys-net-ipv6..html and set values accordingly .. disable ipv6 completely or per-interface, but we do *not* have problems with this when using brctl or settings in /e/n/i or open vswitch or ... |
| 11:24.11 | Hobbes` | and it is assigned even without any configuration. As Dagger said .. it happens in the kernel |
| 11:24.23 | Hobbes` | I'll try disabling autoconf and check later. |
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| 11:25.15 | babilen | No, the problem is that whatever you use to configure your bridges doesn't configure the interfaces in the way you want them to |
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| 11:25.43 | Hobbes` | babilen the address is assigned even before the interface is attached ot the bridge |
| 11:25.43 | babilen | Naturally disabling the functionality globally "fixes" that problem, but I'd rather ... |
| 11:25.48 | babilen | ah, nvm .. |
| 11:26.12 | Hobbes` | [16:48]< Hobbes`> anyways I think I've found the solution |
| 11:26.12 | Hobbes` | [16:49]< Hobbes`> needs to be disabled in /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/*/autoconf |
| 11:26.37 | Hobbes` | that's on a per interface basis.. so that should work. I'll test it out later. |
| 11:26.39 | babilen | No, that's not the solution .. it is a workaround that prevents ipv6 autoconf (also look at ra_accept) |
| 11:26.59 | babilen | accept_ra that is |
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| 11:27.20 | babilen | But your bridge configuration should take care of that |
| 11:27.45 | Hobbes` | babilen ok will try it.. I can't unplug/test right now because the interface is in use |
| 11:28.27 | babilen | And as you haven't told us how you configure your bridges .. I mean you are not seriously using ifconfig manually, are you? |
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| 11:29.06 | Hobbes` | this 4G device gets plugged in manually.. haven't automated it yet. |
| 11:30.09 | Hobbes` | everything else on the bridge gets configured automatically and works fine. |
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| 11:32.17 | babilen | ack |
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| 11:35.00 | hanshenrik | any idea how i managed this? /dev/loop0 / btrfs rw,relatime,nodatasum,nobarrier,compress=lzo,space_cache,subvolid=5,subvol=/ 0 0 |
| 11:35.17 | hanshenrik | /proc/mounts : https://paste.fedoraproject.org/450113/44460814/raw/ |
| 11:35.26 | hanshenrik | my root filesystem somehow became loop0 after messing with UserModeLinux |
| 11:35.48 | hanshenrik | (and its not inside UML, it's the host system. inside UML i only messed with ext4 filesystems.) |
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| 11:54.56 | b6s3d | can i chose to have multiply ports in /etc/ssh/sshd_config? |
| 11:55.16 | OpenTokix | b6s3d: yes, just add Port XXX |
| 11:55.22 | OpenTokix | On a new line |
| 11:55.27 | b6s3d | port 22 33 44 |
| 11:55.31 | b6s3d | for an example? |
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| 11:55.51 | OpenTokix | No, Port 22 then on the line below Port 33 |
| 11:56.46 | b6s3d | ok |
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| 12:18.15 | b6s3d | can two ssh connection be enabled on a machine running virtualbox so the guest and the host can get a ssh connection from outside |
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| 12:18.59 | fguide | b6s3d: you don't really need 2 SSHD running for that |
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| 12:19.29 | fguide | b6s3d: how is you network adapter configs on virtualbox? nat'd, bridged? |
| 12:19.34 | fguide | *your |
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| 12:20.03 | b6s3d | fguide: nat'd and forwarded |
| 12:20.43 | fguide | b6s3d: by forwarded you mean you have done the port forwarding/ |
| 12:20.49 | fguide | ? |
| 12:21.23 | b6s3d | yes 3022 to 22 |
| 12:22.20 | fguide | well then if you're done it correctly and there is nothing else blocking traffic, you should be able to access it as localhost:3022 |
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| 12:26.36 | aboulafia_ | hi, I want to install Jessie but I need a more recent kernel for my usb wifi, Does I need to compile a new kernel ? |
| 12:28.23 | fguide | aboulafia_: you will probably have to recompile it to update |
| 12:28.26 | fguide | https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
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| 12:29.34 | b6s3d | fguide: i can do that, what i want to do is to access it from outside |
| 12:30.26 | aboulafia_ | fguide: ok, and I have another pb with the libraw lib. I need a more recent libraw lib for digikam, does I need to compile digikam with a up to date libraw |
| 12:30.37 | fguide | b6s3d: so set port forwarding on your network configuring the ip address of the host OS |
| 12:31.13 | jelly | aboulafia_: how recent? You can get a ready-made 4.7 from jessie-backports repo |
| 12:31.30 | jelly | dpkg, tell aboulafia_ about jessie-backports |
| 12:31.35 | jelly | dpkg, tell aboulafia_ about bdo kernel |
| 12:31.37 | b6s3d | fguide: could you give me an example of such an ip? |
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| 12:31.50 | b6s3d | hi jelly :) |
| 12:31.52 | aboulafia_ | jelly: 4.7 is perfect |
| 12:31.56 | jelly | aboulafia_: you will also have to install matching firmware from jessie-backports |
| 12:32.00 | fguide | aboulafia_: I can't really help much on that one, but if jelly suggestion works for you, then that's great |
| 12:32.24 | aboulafia_ | fguide: thanks |
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| 12:32.34 | jelly | ,kernels --arch amd64 |
| 12:32.35 | judd | (kernels [--release <squeeze>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 12:32.39 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 12:32.40 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.6-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-2) |
| 12:33.38 | aboulafia_ | jelly: is it better to get from backport or compile it ? |
| 12:33.43 | fguide | b6s3d: well you'll need to configure your router/equipment to forward the port 3022 to your host OS ip address, let's say your host OS is 10.10.1.10, then you'll set up a forwarding rule on port 3022 to that IP address |
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| 12:34.06 | b6s3d | k |
| 12:34.20 | b6s3d | worked good yesterday don't know what happen |
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| 12:34.51 | b6s3d | and i did not have to do anything |
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| 12:35.02 | b6s3d | about the router settings |
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| 12:38.23 | b6s3d | is that the solution or perhaps there are alternatives fguide: |
| 12:38.24 | b6s3d | ? |
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| 12:39.46 | fguide | well that depends a lot, I don't know how your ISP delivers your connection, perhaps it's bridged and all ports are already opened/forwarded |
| 12:40.14 | fguide | if it was working previously then chances are you don't need to configure anything, it might perhaps be an ISP issue |
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| 12:48.26 | sgflt | is it possible to install debian using the installer on a raid1 setup (single partition spanning full hd, sda1 and sdb1 -> /dev/md0, grub on sda and sdb)? |
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| 12:49.31 | sgflt | doing this on a new system (empty hdds) results in grub not booting ("mduuid/.... not found"), before dropping me into grub rescue> |
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| 12:52.15 | Hestben | sgflt: It should be possible. But I guess something has gone wrong with your setup. |
| 12:52.49 | Hestben | sgflt: I have a server booting from a raid1, but I set it up correctly after installing it (I had done it wrong first). |
| 12:54.24 | Hestben | sgflt: to help you fix your problem, we will probably need to see your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and /etc/fstab |
| 12:55.32 | Hestben | sgflt: Basically, you need to setup the mdadm array to be setup in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and use the uuid of the md-array in /etc/fstab |
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| 12:57.43 | sgflt | Hestben: alright. i just downloaded the latest installer (8.6 instead of 8.2) to make sure, if it does not work again, i'll check that |
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| 12:58.09 | sgflt | grub2 at least is advertised as being able to boot from md and lvm, isn't it? |
| 12:59.04 | Hestben | sgflt: mine does at least. |
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| 13:08.12 | Hestben | sgflt: I have written in a note "Choose manual installation of grub and choose the mdadm device with the /boot/ folder. Then boot from one of the devices in the raid array." |
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| 13:08.40 | Hestben | sgflt: That was when I was installing debian 7, though, so the instructions may not apply now. |
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| 13:11.59 | b6s3d | can't connect to my ssh server on virtualbox guest from outside |
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| 13:18.30 | __marco | Hi. I cannot install the flash plugin: ERROR: wget failed to download http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/D5C0FC14/fp.11.2.202.637.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc |
| 13:18.51 | __marco | I also have some troubles to upgrade my machine |
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| 13:19.12 | __marco | Hash Sum mismatch |
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| 13:21.10 | Hestben | __marco: what is the health of your file system? |
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| 13:22.22 | __marco | Hestben: Good, I think. |
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| 13:23.11 | Hestben | __marco: was the "Hash Sum mismatch" error message from apt-get when trying to upgrade? Or from wget? |
| 13:23.29 | __marco | Hestben: from apt-get |
| 13:23.47 | __marco | Err:170 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 libgtk2.0-bin amd64 2.24.31-1 Writing more data than expected (64845 > 46930) |
| 13:24.09 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 13:24.09 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 13:24.18 | Hestben | __marco: did you run "apt-get update" first to update the list |
| 13:24.29 | __marco | Hestben: yes |
| 13:24.34 | petn-randall | __marco: see the message from dpkg ^^^ |
| 13:25.16 | __marco | petn-randall: I will post the complete logs |
| 13:25.45 | petn-randall | __marco: cool, thanks |
| 13:25.52 | Hestben | __marco: The wget error is quite correct, if the file you are trying to download was the link, the file doesn't exist. |
| 13:26.14 | __marco | Thank to you, if you help me troubleshooting this |
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| 13:27.44 | sgflt | Hestben: same error. running grub-install finds the correct mddevice and grub-install runs without errors |
| 13:27.56 | sgflt | Hestben: what's bothering is that when i run the grub rescue> shell, ls doesn't show *anything* |
| 13:27.59 | sgflt | is that working as intended? |
| 13:28.45 | Hestben | sgflt: I don't know much about the installer. Somebody else might be more experienced in that. |
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| 13:29.15 | __marco | a simple update: http://paste.debian.net/875754/ |
| 13:29.26 | Hestben | sgflt: I guess you will have to run the grub-install manually after mounting all devices as you want them. |
| 13:30.05 | petn-randall | __marco: Are you running Debian stretch? |
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| 13:30.23 | __marco | petn-randall: yes |
| 13:30.29 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 13:30.29 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 13:30.42 | sgflt | Hestben: i have. i only have a single device left |
| 13:30.56 | petn-randall | __marco: You can get support for testing/sid on this channel. ^^^ There all the other users hang out. |
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| 13:31.16 | __marco | petn-randall: #debian-next Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited |
| 13:31.19 | __marco | :( |
| 13:31.30 | petn-randall | __marco: Did you read the message? |
| 13:31.32 | sgflt | Hestben: just md0 on /. i'm chrooted into it via rescue. /dev is bound, so are /sys and /proc (i've used the "rescue system" optoin from the installer) |
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| 13:31.57 | sgflt | Hestben: grub-install works without any issue at all, using -v tells me that it correct found root_dev using the md devices UUID |
| 13:32.22 | sgflt | Hestben: now booting again, grub complains that it cannot find mduuid/... (correct uuid here) |
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| 13:32.29 | sgflt | Hestben: and `ls` does not list any devices in grub rescue> |
| 13:32.36 | __marco | petn-randall: sorry, not until the end |
| 13:32.38 | Hestben | sgflt: did you grub-install to both devices? |
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| 13:34.12 | b6s3d | ssh problem " @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ "https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918646 |
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| 13:34.34 | __marco | petn-randall: do you know a irc web client that works with oftc? |
| 13:34.59 | sgflt | Hestben: yes |
| 13:35.13 | b6s3d | its working now |
| 13:35.31 | sgflt | Hestben: what metadata version are your raid devices usinsg? 1.2, 0.9 or another? |
| 13:35.40 | Hestben | sgflt: strange. I will try to find my sources I used when setting it up. |
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| 13:36.59 | Hestben | sgflt: I think 1.2 |
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| 13:37.27 | fguide | b6s3d: so the problem wasn't related to your connection after all/ |
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| 13:38.30 | empedokles78 | If you rename a user in debian, will it change in the bash and home directory as well? |
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| 13:39.08 | sgflt | Hestben: i have to say, it's quite frustrating. it turned a 10 minute endeaver of setting up a new server into a 5 hour debugging session already =) |
| 13:39.55 | b6s3d | fguide: thanks for the concern, i don't even know |
| 13:40.09 | PetyrBaelish | Is there some gtk3 bug that make dialogues (especially file select ones) take like 1 minute to open? No massive CPU usage, so it can't be due to resources |
| 13:40.31 | PetyrBaelish | Using sid |
| 13:40.42 | missmbob | !tell PetyrBaelish about debian-next |
| 13:40.49 | b6s3d | i just know i have been fighting with the problem of not having connection with ssh and now i have |
| 13:41.09 | PetyrBaelish | missmbob: that's a different network X_X |
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| 13:41.28 | missmbob | PetyrBaelish: yes. you came to the wrong place |
| 13:41.32 | Hestben | sgflt: I feel you. I think I did look at http://www.texsoft.it/index.php?c=hardware&m=hw.storage.boot-raid-squeeze&l=it during my first install |
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| 13:41.47 | mahdiiiix | hi guys |
| 13:41.52 | mahdiiiix | I upgrade the debian testing and after rebooting, the message "oh, no. something has gone wrong" showed and can't login anymore |
| 13:41.52 | PetyrBaelish | missmbob: ugh, nevermind... |
| 13:42.06 | Hestben | sgflt: But, then I found, that I actually hadn't set up a raid1 for boot. so I did do that stuff manually later. |
| 13:43.17 | b6s3d | fguide: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918651 |
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| 13:46.03 | mahdiiiix | what can i do? |
| 13:46.46 | b6s3d | should i be worried? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8918651 |
| 13:46.50 | b6s3d | ssh problem ^ |
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| 13:47.15 | mahdiiiix | I see somewhere that delete ~/.config/dbconf/user, but not working for me |
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| 13:48.09 | sgflt | Hestben: hmm, can't see any difference to how i am doing it. what did you mean with "hadn't set up a raid1 for boot"? |
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| 13:48.23 | greycat | b6s3d: did you reinstall the operating system on the server? If so, this is typical, and you just delete the line from the file that it says to delete. |
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| 13:48.51 | Hestben | sgflt: I only setup raid1 for / and my storage medium the first time I set it up. |
| 13:49.07 | greycat | b6s3d: this is also typical if your servers have dynamic IP addresses. |
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| 13:49.30 | b6s3d | greycat: it does |
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| 13:49.36 | b6s3d | i use a domain for it |
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| 13:49.41 | Hestben | sgflt: So I was lucky that the disk with the mounted boot partition didn't fail while I was away. |
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| 13:50.09 | greycat | ssh caches host keys for the servers you contact, by hostname *and* by IP address. So if your IP address gets reused by multiple hostnames that you contact, each with a different key, then you get this. |
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| 13:51.47 | b6s3d | greycat what line should i remove? |
| 13:52.00 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.04 | greycat | Did you read it? |
| 13:52.17 | johanskizo | hey |
| 13:52.22 | b6s3d | oh |
| 13:52.23 | Jazz86 | y |
| 13:52.24 | b6s3d | line 9 |
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| 13:52.40 | johanskizo | do you know php chanel? |
| 13:52.48 | greycat | ##php |
| 13:53.12 | johanskizo | chanel is invite only |
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| 13:53.42 | greycat | Maybe they just want you to be registered with nickserv first. |
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| 13:54.40 | sgflt | Hestben: ah i see. well that data would have been safe anyway =) |
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| 13:55.13 | mahdiiiix | ey baba |
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| 13:56.13 | mahdiiiix | I upgrade the debian testing and after rebooting, the message "oh, no. something has gone wrong" showed and can't login anymore. so what's the problem? |
| 13:56.25 | empedokles78 | If you rename a user with a window manager, will it change in the bash in Debian? |
| 13:56.31 | Hestben | sgflt: So, it seems I cant help you further. |
| 13:57.12 | Hestben | sgflt: I was messing around with it in early January, and I think I remember having some problems that I solved by chance. |
| 13:57.19 | sgflt | Hestben: thanks =) |
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| 13:57.53 | Hestben | sgflt: But I havent written too much in my notes, so I fear that I will end up with some problems if I try to do it again. |
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| 13:58.09 | johanskizo | hy whay debian8 if i start wlan0 i cant connect to ssid |
| 13:58.18 | johanskizo | wlan0mon |
| 13:58.27 | johanskizo | airmon |
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| 14:00.25 | johanskizo | why debian can't connect to any wifi if i start airmon-ng wlan0 |
| 14:00.35 | johanskizo | why debian8 can't connect to any wifi if i start airmon-ng wlan0 |
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| 14:01.14 | petn-randall | johanskizo: Are you using Kali? |
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| 14:02.05 | johanskizo | yes |
| 14:02.11 | johanskizo | i using kali |
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| 14:02.40 | johanskizo | any solution? |
| 14:02.48 | petn-randall | !kali |
| 14:02.49 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 14:02.59 | petn-randall | johanskizo: ^^^ try asking in the right channel. |
| 14:03.20 | johanskizo | oh sorry and thanks |
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| 14:04.10 | missmbob | my question is why you said "why debian8" |
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| 14:04.30 | johanskizo | kali linux based form debian 8 huh? |
| 14:04.35 | greycat | !based on |
| 14:04.36 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 14:04.36 | missmbob | sigh |
| 14:04.43 | johanskizo | i mean kali 2016 |
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| 14:05.48 | Drzacek | johanskizo, debian8 is based on linux kernel, yet you didn't said linux kernel only debian 8. |
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| 14:06.04 | greycat | Debian 8 (jessie) is way more than just a linux kernel. |
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| 14:07.26 | johanskizo | sorry am new in linux |
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| 14:07.57 | johanskizo | do you know software for make dfd or uml in linux? |
| 14:08.04 | johanskizo | in windows i use rational rose |
| 14:08.12 | greycat | The real question is why Kali users keep coming here. Does Kali configure one or more of its IRC client packages to dump the newbies here? |
| 14:08.41 | missmbob | i assume they simply dont change the default from debian sources |
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| 14:08.58 | greycat | But doesn't *debian* point users to irc.debian.org which is not here? |
| 14:09.07 | missmbob | good point. no idea then |
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| 14:09.34 | ChaMeLioN | Howdy. |
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| 14:20.41 | empedokles78 | How can I rename my user account? |
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| 14:20.53 | proggry | hi |
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| 14:21.03 | proggry | Is it possible to use colons (:) in environment variable names? :) |
| 14:21.26 | jelly | proggry: not easily, no |
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| 14:21.44 | Mahe | proggry: no, only alphanumeric and underscore allowed |
| 14:23.05 | proggry | ok |
| 14:23.10 | proggry | I will use a different delimter then :) |
| 14:24.26 | mahdiiiix | if the booting failed how can I khnow the problem? where is the log? |
| 14:24.33 | greycat | In theory, every character except = and NUL are permitted, but in practice, only *some* programs allow it. |
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| 14:25.11 | greycat | wooledg@wooledg:~$ f() { echo "I am f"; }; export -f f |
| 14:25.12 | greycat | wooledg@wooledg:~$ env | grep BASH |
| 14:25.12 | greycat | BASH_FUNC_f%%=() { echo "I am f" |
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| 14:25.36 | greycat | Here's an example where a program has created an environment variable with % in its name. |
| 14:26.47 | proggry | thanks |
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| 14:29.08 | jhutchins | !journal |
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| 14:29.31 | jhutchins | mahdiiiix: Chances are that nothing useful has been recorded to disk. |
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| 14:30.02 | jhutchins | mahdiiiix: systemd has a journaling system that records some information, but usually just to memory. |
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| 14:30.17 | jhutchins | mahdiiiix: Your best bet is to watch the on-screen messages. |
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| 14:31.45 | mahdiiiix | jhutchins: the messages gone fast and a screen with "oh, somthing gone wrong.." showed |
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| 14:32.32 | Mahe | mahdiiiix: if the boot process reached the full kernel already, you might find something in /var/log/syslog |
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| 14:32.54 | Mahe | it records the system log messages during the full boot process there |
| 14:33.05 | greycat | "something has gone wrong" is gdm3 failing because your video drivers aren't shiny enough |
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| 14:33.29 | greycat | So the system is fully booted at that point. and you should have logs and stuff. Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a text console. |
| 14:33.37 | mahdiiiix | greycat: the system works fine before update |
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| 14:38.15 | mahdiiiix | some gnome-session segfaults are in there.libgtk-3.so.0.2200.1 |
| 14:38.45 | jak2000 | i have server1(with dns) here created the zone, of other domain hoteldelcamino.mx(point to other ip), the nslookup and dig asnwer fine, here in this server, i do ping to hoteldelcamino.mx and answer... but if anyone try ping to hoteldelcamino.mx not ansswer why? isnt propagatedd... i am wait 4 dayas... any advice? |
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| 14:43.45 | mahdiiiix | Thanks everybody. Now I khnow the problem |
| 14:43.47 | jelly | jak2000: look at the output of "dig +trace hoteldelcamino.mx SOA" and "dig +trace hoteldelcamino.mx", and pastebin both. |
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| 14:44.05 | nanditooo | friends, visit http://www.chateaonline.net new chat |
| 14:44.07 | missmbob | it's not a propagating issue. i can ping your ip just fine and i got from whois |
| 14:44.33 | missmbob | cant ping the domain, though. never seen that before |
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| 14:46.04 | jelly | nanditooo: please avoid advertising offtopic stuff in here. One warning. |
| 14:46.15 | alwyn | Hello! In sudo, is it possible to forge a Cmnd_Alias from multiple sudoers files (in sudoers.d) and then use that alias in the main sudoers file? |
| 14:46.19 | ChaMeLioN | How do I install ATI radeon 7550 HD graphics card drivers ? |
| 14:46.47 | jak2000 | jelly thanks see: http://pastebin.com/rdrXf1TW |
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| 14:46.58 | nanditooo | friends, visit http://www.chateaonline.net new chat |
| 14:47.21 | missmbob | jak2000: i also cant load it in a browser. do you have a web server running? |
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| 14:49.10 | artaoss | runnig debian jessie & basic gnome desktop, can it / should it, easily see shares i create on centos with samba & or windows 10 with windows 10 folder sharing |
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| 14:49.52 | missmbob | yes. gnome is pretty great with gvfs |
| 14:50.11 | artaoss | missmbob: gvfs? |
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| 14:50.49 | missmbob | GVfs (abbreviation for GNOME Virtual file system) is GNOME's userspace virtual filesystem designed to work with the I/O abstraction of GIO, a library available in GLib since version 2.15.1. It installs several modules that are automatically used by applications using the APIs of libgio. |
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| 14:51.52 | greathector7 | hello!!! have a good day |
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| 14:55.44 | greathector7 | i try to install debian on a desktop Compaq cq1507la but fail the xorg use a cpu atom d525. |
| 14:56.14 | jhutchins | artaoss: missmbob implies that a standard Gnome install has the necessary components to browse a CIFS network and see shares. If it doesn't work, you might need to install the samba client and possibly do some configuration to join the workgroup/domain. |
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| 14:57.37 | duelle | greathector7: What exactly fails whith any error messages? |
| 14:57.40 | artaoss | jhuthins thanks : don't currently run a domain, as i got by with work groups back when i setup the centos share, but the debian isnt seeing that. |
| 14:57.52 | jak2000 | jelly |
| 14:57.56 | jhutchins | !es |
| 14:57.56 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃÂnea de chat. |
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| 14:58.40 | artaoss | connected by manual adding it though, jhutchins.. should be OK for now.. |
| 14:59.46 | jhutchins | !samba |
| 14:59.46 | dpkg | Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ http://samba.org/samba/docs/ http://wiki.samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>, <dfs>. |
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| 15:00.30 | jhutchins | artaoss: I can't help you with gnome browsing, I just mount my CIFS shares in fstab. |
| 15:00.31 | missmbob | dont use swat, though. ever |
| 15:00.53 | jhutchins | missmbob: swat is one of the greatest configuration utilities ever built. |
| 15:01.00 | teraflops | lolswat |
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| 15:01.06 | missmbob | jhutchins: i hope you're joking |
| 15:01.22 | teraflops | it's from ~1998 lol |
| 15:01.30 | jhutchins | missmbob: Not in the least, and I've been using it since about twenty years. |
| 15:01.33 | greycat | Age is not a reason for scorn. |
| 15:01.37 | missmbob | !swat |
| 15:01.37 | dpkg | The <Samba> Web Administration Tool (SWAT) allows administration of a Samba server via a web browser. SWAT is no longer actively maintained, its default configuration is not secure for use over an untrusted network, and is not suitable for use in conjunction with hand-edited smb.conf files. Upstream support for SWAT was removed at Samba 4.1.0. |
| 15:01.55 | greycat | ^^ those are reasons for scorn. |
| 15:01.59 | teraflops | greycat: right |
| 15:02.05 | teraflops | heh |
| 15:02.23 | artaoss | one of these days, when i get hardware to rebuild, I'm planning on setting up new in house file share for music, video's workstation backups.... |
| 15:02.29 | greycat | dpkg, samba =~ s/<swat>, // |
| 15:02.29 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 15:02.37 | jhutchins | Which is quite unfortunate, because the system of linking each directive to the relevant section of the documentation made it very easy to really learn what you were doing with the system. |
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| 15:04.43 | jhutchins | swat actually worked pretty well with manually edited files, it didn't store it's values external to the text config files and read those at startup. |
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| 15:05.00 | rendar | hi, i have just upgraded my system to jessie from wheezy, but nvidia drivers get me some error: they cannot find kerneel sources, in particular the include/ directory.. how i can install it? |
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| 15:05.28 | greycat | That sounds like you are trying to compile nvidia drivers using non-debian stuff.... |
| 15:05.42 | KARSER | #flood |
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| 15:06.06 | rendar | greycat: what? i have just downloaded the nvidia driver from their website..and it needs linux headers, that's all |
| 15:06.12 | greycat | As I said. |
| 15:06.21 | missmbob | great way to break debian |
| 15:06.27 | aZz7eCh | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#jessie-304xx this guide worked fine for me |
| 15:06.27 | greycat | !nvidia |
| 15:06.28 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:06.32 | missmbob | !tell rendar about dont break debian |
| 15:06.39 | rendar | hmm |
| 15:07.07 | artaoss | thanks jhuthins: i'll investigate that a bit further.. does the modern \samba/ support windows 10 shares that i've shared with permissions that use the crazy MS live accounts?> |
| 15:07.10 | rendar | ok well, so how i can install nouveau drivers? |
| 15:07.16 | jelly | KARSER: sorry, that "#flood" on-join message is outdated. Could you please paste your stuff to http://paste.debian.net again, and show the URL here and a short description of your issue? |
| 15:07.20 | missmbob | artaoss: yes it does |
| 15:07.39 | KARSER | hey guys, am totaly lost with openldap and SSL/TLS. Is there anybody with strong nerves willing to help me? |
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| 15:08.00 | KARSER | jelly: sorry wrong try ;-) |
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| 15:09.56 | ChaMeLioN | How do I install ATI radeon 7550M HD graphics card drivers ? |
| 15:10.01 | jelly | KARSER: ask in #openlap or #ldap channel, maybe |
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| 15:10.12 | jelly | if noone answers here that |
| 15:10.13 | jelly | is |
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| 15:11.01 | rendar | strange, apt-get tells me that nouveau drivers are at the newest version, but Xorg still fail to start.. |
| 15:11.05 | rendar | any clue? |
| 15:11.09 | KARSER | jelly: thanks, will try that :-) |
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| 15:11.29 | missmbob | probably because you nvidia crap from their site fucked your system. that's what it does |
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| 15:12.04 | rendar | missmbob, but nvidia stuff didn't get isntalled |
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| 15:14.03 | rendar | am i fucked? |
| 15:14.35 | greycat | Did you have drivers-built-from-nvidia.com on wheezy, before you upgraded? |
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| 15:15.50 | greathector7 | duelle in a moment show you the images i install in this moment, i download the ultimate image of debian stable 8.6 and i try in this moment |
| 15:16.20 | missmbob | i know that was english but i have no idea what you said |
| 15:17.20 | rendar | well, i don't want to say bad to nvidia but i have just run the configuration with the correct header path, and now everything works fine |
| 15:17.26 | TomTomTosch | !es |
| 15:17.27 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃÂnea de chat. |
| 15:17.34 | greycat | rendar: OK, don't touch anything :) |
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| 15:17.45 | rendar | greaycat, lol, i will |
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| 15:19.18 | _aeris_ | Hello Debian ! |
| 15:19.28 | _aeris_ | Seems Packages files vanish from multiple repos |
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| 15:19.42 | _aeris_ | only gz/bz available, apt failure everywhere |
| 15:19.46 | greycat | Which package? |
| 15:19.49 | _aeris_ | http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/jessie/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages |
| 15:19.50 | _aeris_ | all :D |
| 15:20.00 | greycat | !exact |
| 15:20.07 | _aeris_ | http://mirror.as35701.net/debian-security/dists/jessie/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages |
| 15:20.12 | greycat | Awww. |
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| 15:20.27 | jhutchins | !mirror status |
| 15:20.28 | dpkg | Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 15:21.37 | greycat | http://mirror.debian.org/status.html could use a wee bit of explanation. What's "R"? |
| 15:22.07 | _aeris_ | greycat > search "Legend" :D |
| 15:22.10 | DammitJim | gosh, this drives me nuts... there is a difference between scp, sftp and ftps, right? |
| 15:22.23 | _aeris_ | DammitJim > yep |
| 15:22.55 | _aeris_ | scp/sftp use ssh internal command, ftps is just ftp over tls |
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| 15:23.38 | DammitJim | ok, so I guess one of my servers is set up with sftp |
| 15:23.42 | empedokles78 | How can I change a user name? |
| 15:23.48 | DammitJim | but when I try to scp a file, it says: /sbin/nologin |
| 15:24.05 | _aeris_ | your user is not allowed to connect with ssh |
| 15:24.15 | greycat | scp uses the user's shell. sftp might not, depending on how you've configured it. |
| 15:24.23 | DammitJim | ah |
| 15:24.26 | DammitJim | got it |
| 15:24.30 | stoned | \o/ |
| 15:24.31 | DammitJim | so, there could be some differences |
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| 15:25.01 | stoned | DammitJim: you are setup with sftp out of the box (if you didn't change anything) with the openssh-server |
| 15:25.15 | stoned | ssh, scp, sftp, same port 22, same creds. |
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| 15:25.17 | greycat | In general, scp is a really horrible hack. |
| 15:25.21 | stoned | *nod* |
| 15:25.33 | DammitJim | oh really? |
| 15:25.49 | stoned | I don't think that sftp has a shell. |
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| 15:26.08 | greycat | sftp doesn't use a shell; it is an actual, separate protocol. |
| 15:26.26 | greycat | scp works by building shell commands to try to make the file get copied |
| 15:26.28 | stoned | So you're basically left with scp or sshfs or something. |
| 15:26.46 | DammitJim | how can I test an sftp connection from the terminal? |
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| 15:27.09 | DammitJim | nevermind, I can probably google that |
| 15:27.11 | DammitJim | thanks guys |
| 15:27.14 | DammitJim | don't want to waste your time |
| 15:27.19 | stoned | Use an ftp progam that works with sftp |
| 15:27.21 | stoned | on the cli. |
| 15:27.38 | greycat | Use "sftp". |
| 15:28.07 | stoned | That's one of them. |
| 15:28.40 | DammitJim | ROTFLMAO... dude, I didn't even know I had that |
| 15:29.09 | greycat | ,files usr/bin/sftp |
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| 15:29.49 | stoned | lftp is a bit more featureful. |
| 15:29.53 | stoned | ,v lftp |
| 15:29.54 | greycat | ,file usr/bin/sftp |
| 15:29.55 | judd | Package: lftp on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.3.6-1+deb7u2; jessie: 4.6.0-1+deb8u1; sid: 4.7.2-1+b1; stretch: 4.7.2-1+b1 |
| 15:29.57 | judd | Search for usr/bin/sftp in jessie/amd64: openssh-client: usr/bin/sftp |
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| 15:30.37 | stoned | https://lftp.yar.ru/features.html |
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| 15:33.31 | stoned | Wrod. |
| 15:33.37 | stoned | oops, window wrong. |
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| 15:45.47 | qwebirc10736 | How can I log to a file for a single anacron script? |
| 15:46.13 | greycat | If it's a shell script, you can put exec >>/tmp/mylogfile 2>&1 at the top of it. |
| 15:46.28 | greycat | Pick an appropriate path name. |
| 15:46.39 | stoned | and google bash redirection |
| 15:46.42 | qwebirc10736 | greycat: You mean IN the file? |
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| 15:46.58 | greycat | Yes, in the shell script. What are you actual constraints here? |
| 15:47.16 | greycat | Tell me which sacred things you are not allowed to modify, and which tools you are not allowed to use. |
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| 15:48.15 | qwebirc10736 | greycat: For cronjob it's easy to redirect, you can do it in crontabs. But for anacron is not easy. |
| 15:48.38 | greycat | Well then it's a good thing I didn't ask you to modify the anacron line. |
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| 15:50.31 | skirmisha | guys |
| 15:50.50 | skirmisha | latest testing debian libreoffice is crashing on startup |
| 15:50.55 | greycat | (Although, to be honest, I have serious doubts about your claims that you cannot put shell redirections on anacron lines.) |
| 15:51.08 | skirmisha | [138016.721411] soffice.bin[26507]: segfault at 10 ip afe5a788 sp bfbfbdf0 error 4 in libnettle.so.4.7[afe38000+33000] |
| 15:51.11 | missmbob | !tell skirmisha -about debian-next |
| 15:51.13 | greycat | skirmisha: no testing support here. |
| 15:51.54 | qwebirc10736 | greycat: Didn't think it's so complicated :/ |
| 15:51.58 | skirmisha | its invite only |
| 15:52.01 | skirmisha | cant join |
| 15:52.07 | greycat | skirmisha: read the whole factoid. |
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| 15:52.38 | skirmisha | ok |
| 15:52.41 | skirmisha | let me change server |
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| 15:53.04 | mahdiiiix | so after a while i can identify what's my problem and this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file |
| 15:53.20 | mahdiiiix | https://ptpb.pw/RutZ |
| 15:54.21 | mahdiiiix | I search the net but can't find a useful solution |
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| 15:58.18 | mahdiiiix | another problem is I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Is this normal in debian testing version |
| 15:58.30 | greycat | !tell mahdiiiix -about debian-next |
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| 15:59.47 | mahdiiiix | greycat: I can't undrestand what you mean |
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| 16:00.45 | greycat | We do not support testing here. Go to the other network, and then go to the #debian-next channel. |
| 16:01.32 | mahdiiiix | greycat: oh, apologize. Thanks |
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| 16:22.55 | mrtrump | debian is kicking ass |
| 16:23.03 | mrtrump | way faster than openbsd |
| 16:23.25 | mrtrump | great feel like nice zombie suppresssion vehicle |
| 16:24.13 | teraflops | mrtrump: faster how? |
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| 16:26.49 | jelly | mrtrump: great. However, please notice this is a help, tech support channel. Unless you have questions to ask, issues to solve or Debian expertise to provide, consider #debian-offtopic for your chat needs. |
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| 16:33.54 | azarus | Hey guys, not sure if this belongs here, but i have connection problems with debian 8.6. I have a bridge set up on my Win10 to the debian machine, and the debian machine can't access the internet |
| 16:34.17 | jelly | debian in a VM? |
| 16:34.27 | azarus | No. Real machines |
| 16:35.00 | jelly | does the bridge include any wireless interfaces as members? |
| 16:35.09 | azarus | Yes, it does. |
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| 16:36.00 | jelly | wireless can sometimes prevent faking MAC addresses, and if the linux' machine traffic appears on wireless your AP may refuse it |
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| 16:36.28 | azarus | Hm. So the issue is AP-side? |
| 16:36.30 | jelly | does it work if you use the same bridge with a different client OS? |
| 16:36.56 | azarus | Hm. I'll try with a KDE on arch. |
| 16:36.58 | azarus | brb |
| 16:37.03 | jelly | azarus: it could be. you could try a NAT ("shared internet connection") on windows instead |
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| 16:38.02 | azarus | I'll have to look up how to do that. |
| 16:38.05 | jelly | this is just a theory. You ought to look at actual traffic to identify the cause |
| 16:38.16 | greathector7 | duelle i finish the instalation the system read two monitor |
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| 16:38.32 | azarus | It works with arch |
| 16:38.36 | greathector7 | duelle: but only had a 1 screen |
| 16:39.05 | azarus | The issue is on the debian machine. |
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| 16:39.54 | jelly | good. Now, does arch acquire its IP address and network config via dhcp? |
| 16:40.24 | azarus | It uses NetworkManager, so i guess so |
| 16:40.59 | jelly | azarus: yeah. what does "ip a" and "ip r" and maybe "ps -fe |grep dhc" look on Arch? |
| 16:41.01 | jelly | !paste |
| 16:41.02 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 16:41.41 | azarus | So i should paste "ip a" from arch? |
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| 16:41.50 | jelly | all the commands, yes |
| 16:42.05 | azarus | Any more I should do? |
| 16:42.06 | jelly | preferably in a single paste entry |
| 16:42.37 | jelly | just want to confirm it got its setup from dhcp, then look at what debian does |
| 16:42.43 | greathector7 | hello i need yours help, i try to install debian on a desktop Compaq cq1507la but fail the xorg use a cpu atom d525. |
| 16:43.18 | JyZyXEL | why aren't apt sources using https://? |
| 16:43.46 | azarus | Here's ip a: https://ptpb.pw/vcJR |
| 16:44.08 | JyZyXEL | ah, apt-transport-https exists |
| 16:44.09 | greathector7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.20 | greathector7 | but only had a 1 screen |
| 16:44.39 | jelly | azarus: can you put all the commands' output into the same paste? |
| 16:44.46 | greathector7 | and i cant see the loguin area |
| 16:45.17 | azarus | Excuse me, but what kind of commands should i paste? |
| 16:45.47 | greathector7 | i can help me? |
| 16:45.47 | jelly | azarus: "ip a" and "ip r" and maybe "ps -fe |grep dhc" |
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| 16:46.03 | azarus | jelly, Okay, on it |
| 16:46.28 | jelly | greathector7: if you press ctrl - alt - F1 do you get a text mode login screen? |
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| 16:49.52 | azarus | jelly, Here you go: paste.debian.net/876231 |
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| 16:51.05 | jelly | azarus: okay, and which IP does the windows machine have? |
| 16:51.33 | azarus | 192.168.43.242 |
| 16:52.00 | jelly | alright, that looks like an actual bridge setup then |
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| 16:52.21 | jelly | azarus: now connect debian, is tcpdump installed on debian maybe? |
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| 16:53.39 | azarus | tcpdump is not installed |
| 16:53.45 | jelly | azarus: if not, can you see whether there's a dhcp client running already? same "ps -fe |grep dhc" thing |
| 16:54.02 | azarus | No, there is not another one |
| 16:54.15 | jelly | azarus: do you have a GUI, desktop environment of some sort in debian running? |
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| 16:54.26 | azarus | No. |
| 16:54.31 | jelly | so, base system? |
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| 16:54.53 | azarus | Pretty much, openssh-server, and basic system utilites are installed |
| 16:54.59 | rawf_ | hi |
| 16:55.09 | jelly | azarus: can you show "ip a" or "ip l" output and the contents of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:55.43 | jelly | (phone, camera screenshot, imgur or picpaste if you can't bother with text files and usb sticks) |
| 16:55.56 | azarus | jelly, I can post images, but not paste anything, since the machine cannot access the internet. |
| 16:56.20 | azarus | I'll post a pic |
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| 16:57.03 | mrtrump | anyone running a 50T raid 10 72 slot storage server? |
| 16:57.08 | mrtrump | with jfs and cfq? |
| 16:57.11 | mrtrump | and debian? |
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| 16:58.51 | mrtrump | hek I could do it with the 60 slot or 48 depending on disk size |
| 16:58.54 | mrtrump | hm |
| 16:59.00 | jelly | mrtrump: how large are your drives to get to 50T net size with 72 disks |
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| 16:59.13 | mrtrump | well I would need 50 x2T |
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| 16:59.27 | mrtrump | leaving 22 hot spares |
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| 16:59.30 | mrtrump | seems waste |
| 16:59.43 | mrtrump | if I could get 6T drive sin I could use less slots |
| 16:59.55 | `Kevin | mrtrump: thats a VERY specific question.. :) |
| 16:59.59 | jelly | horrible latencies. |
| 17:00.08 | mrtrump | I was just curious if anyone here ever ran something big liek that on JFS for an extended perios of months or years |
| 17:00.20 | jelly | try asking in #linux-raid |
| 17:00.30 | mrtrump | rememebr raid 10 is 1/2 x drive WRITE spped |
| 17:00.32 | mrtrump | woo weee |
| 17:00.38 | mrtrump | load up a 12gb/s controller |
| 17:00.47 | mrtrump | and overwhelm 10gigE |
| 17:00.51 | mrtrump | need 40 or 100 etc |
| 17:01.07 | mrtrump | werc.cat-v.org for web domiantion with such a setup |
| 17:01.11 | mrtrump | skip mysql and java |
| 17:01.40 | jelly | that just makes you sound like a person who never set up a storage with that amount of spindles, and worse, it's not debian specific at all |
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| 17:02.01 | azarus | jelly, https:/imgur.com/EA9wDBY |
| 17:02.19 | mrtrump | you sound like you jump to silly conclusions and personal insults.....not very intellectual |
| 17:02.28 | mrtrump | I just setup something like that |
| 17:02.29 | anddam | I have an external disk on USB bus who gave a media error, it's got a single partition with ext4 that is clean on fsck |
| 17:02.32 | mrtrump | and its outstanding |
| 17:02.43 | mrtrump | notice I said nothing about your qualities |
| 17:02.48 | jelly | azarus: so you got the same IP on linux as the windows machine? |
| 17:02.48 | anddam | can fsck be run on a device rather than on a partition? |
| 17:02.54 | mrtrump | sure |
| 17:02.58 | jelly | azarus: that... won't work :-) |
| 17:03.02 | mrtrump | fsck /dev/dm-0 for example |
| 17:03.06 | azarus | jelly, Yeah, and that confuses me |
| 17:03.11 | mrtrump | or look in /dev/mapper |
| 17:03.13 | azarus | Why does it do that? |
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| 17:03.26 | mrtrump | you should be using lvm tho |
| 17:03.54 | jelly | mrtrump: not here to be intellectual, just keep the channel usable for actual debian questions |
| 17:04.59 | `Kevin | mrtrump: we make use of zfs for 25.6TB(usable) but its not debian specific... |
| 17:05.46 | jelly | azarus: oh, you forgot to "cat /etc/network/interfaces". I'll assume it has "iface eth0 inet dhcp" inside. Do "ifdown eth0", wait a couple seconds, then "ifup eth0" again, wait 10 seconds more, and see if it gets a different ip address |
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| 17:07.38 | anddam | mrtrump: my question was if it's supposed to be run with the whole device as argument or if it assumes the arg is going to be a fs and therefore running on the full device is potentially destructive |
| 17:07.40 | azarus | jelly, It tries a couple of times before getting 192.168.43.242 |
| 17:08.01 | jelly | that's weird |
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| 17:08.45 | jelly | azarus: you can manually set up a different IP address temporarily, then grab tcpdump from the repo to be able to see what happens on the wire |
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| 17:09.59 | darsie | How can I tell when I installed a package or when I upgraded it? |
| 17:10.06 | azarus | Hm. Where are the settings for setting up a different ip? |
| 17:10.18 | greycat | darsie: /var/log/dpkg.log* may have it |
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| 17:10.29 | darsie | thx |
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| 17:10.41 | jelly | azarus: ip a del 192.168.43.242/24 dev eth0 && ip a add 192.168.43.142/24 dev eth0 && ip r add default via 192.168.43.1 |
| 17:11.17 | jelly | hoping .142 is not used by something else |
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| 17:11.42 | azarus | The host is the only machine on the ap |
| 17:12.07 | anddam | this is the error I saw in journalctl, and the fsck run that I had https://gist.github.com/anddam/46980c31d5af3fd1953fe0ec754f4be4 |
| 17:12.47 | mrtrump | debian can be used a a nice file server without zfs |
| 17:12.52 | mrtrump | I prefr jfs |
| 17:13.33 | `Kevin | mrtrump: all depends on what your needs are |
| 17:13.36 | azarus | jelly, it worked, i'm installing tcpdump now. |
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| 17:13.57 | anddam | notice /dev/sdb1 say it's unclean (likely I left an ESP partition), trying sgdisk on the device claims the partition table is corrupted |
| 17:14.06 | mrtrump | I need to make a lot of money. |
| 17:14.15 | mrtrump | and date very hot blondes with blu eyes |
| 17:14.19 | mrtrump | :) |
| 17:14.26 | jelly | mrtrump: again, #debian-offtopic |
| 17:14.34 | jelly | last warning |
| 17:15.09 | azarus | jelly, I'll post a tcpdump now. |
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| 17:17.18 | azarus | !paste |
| 17:17.19 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 17:20.31 | azarus | How would i paste a tcpdump? I tried pastebinit |
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| 17:25.43 | azarus | jelly, How should i paste the tcpdump? |
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| 17:26.24 | anddam | azarus: with one of the pastebin services suggested by dpkg |
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| 17:27.03 | azarus | I tried pastebinit, but tcpdump -G 5 |pastebinit went on for a couple of minutes |
| 17:27.26 | greycat | did you specify an ending point for the tcpdump? |
| 17:27.27 | anddam | is there a specific package providing EFI file system support or should I just use dosfstools? I read the fs is supposedly called "ef" |
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| 17:27.39 | azarus | How would i do that, greycat ? |
| 17:27.43 | greycat | anddam: isn't it just FAT? |
| 17:28.00 | jelly | azarus: you can run something like "tcpdump -n -i eth0 -s0 -w /tmp/alltraffic.pcap" in a different terminal, then do another "ifdown eth0" and "ifup eth0", then ctrl-c the tcpdump and upload the pcap file somehow |
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| 17:28.14 | anddam | greycat: that's what I knew, I read differently on wikipedia and http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=81120 has "Although any old partition with a FAT32 or FAT16 file system will do, there is now a separate format ('ef') for that purpose." |
| 17:28.17 | anddam | hence my question |
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| 17:28.32 | greathector7 | hello!!! i install debian 8.6 in a cq1507la compaq machine. but i have an error, it recongize 2 monitors and the principal dont exist and i dont can use the login area |
| 17:28.51 | greycat | titan:~$ mount | grep efi |
| 17:28.51 | greycat | /dev/sda2 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 17:29.06 | anddam | vfat it is then, thanks |
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| 17:31.43 | azarus | jelly, I tried cat /tmp/alltraffic.pcap, but it's not human-readable |
| 17:31.58 | anddam | fsck.vfat on the ESp partition returns 1 and prints "Logical sector size (65025 bytes) is not a multiple of the physical sector size." |
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| 17:32.48 | anddam | I googled a bit but I couldn't figure if it's something that's fixable or not, I was able to use the backup partition table to fix the GPT issue earlier, not sure if it has something to do with this new issue |
| 17:32.59 | greycat | I have no idea what an "ESp partition" is. |
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| 17:33.17 | jelly | azarus: no, it is not. You can however take a look at it with wireshark, or let someone here do it if you upload the file somewhere. |
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| 17:34.01 | anddam | greycat: EFI System Partition |
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| 17:34.11 | JordiGH | I need to compile PCSX2, a Playstation 2 emulator. It's 32-bit only, and a lot of the 32-bit packages it has conflict with the 64-bit counterparts. Is a chroot my best bet? |
| 17:34.12 | azarus | Hm. How do I upload a file from a cli? I could install a GUI, I wouldn't mind, jelly |
| 17:34.46 | anddam | the 500MB-ish partition with a FAT-based fs (EFI File System) on a GPT that UEFI uses to boot |
| 17:34.47 | jelly | azarus: well... you can install a GUI if you configure the .142 address again :-) |
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| 17:35.10 | azarus | ... Okay. On it. |
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| 17:35.14 | greycat | azarus: nc termbin.com 9999 < yourfile |
| 17:35.16 | jhutchins | azarus: Most of use would use scp or rsync to copy the file over ssh. |
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| 17:35.25 | reber | hey all |
| 17:35.36 | greycat | I'm assuming he didn't mean "upload" in the regular sense of the word. |
| 17:35.38 | jelly | azarus: or you can leave the dhcp issue be for the moment, and set up manual ip address in /etc/network/interfaces until you get other things going |
| 17:35.41 | unborn | 1+ for rsync :) |
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| 17:37.03 | azarus | What's the smallest DE? |
| 17:37.18 | reber | i'm looking for a quick solution for enable/disable internet connexion for my kids. For example enable internet only on hour a day. I know about squid and squidguard, i'd like to find a quick (and dirty) hack, any ideas ? |
| 17:37.27 | greycat | Do you need a full DE, or do you really just want a window manager? |
| 17:37.37 | jelly | azarus: they're all huge. lxde maybe? xfce? |
| 17:37.48 | azarus | Just something i can launch a browser and upload a file |
| 17:37.55 | jelly | !install x |
| 17:37.55 | dpkg | To install X in Debian: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>. |
| 17:37.58 | greycat | A WM would suffice, then. |
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| 17:38.12 | azarus | i3 maybe? |
| 17:38.18 | greycat | Sure, whatever you like. |
| 17:38.20 | jelly | right |
| 17:38.27 | jhutchins | azarus: What about a CLI browser like lynx? |
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| 17:38.47 | azarus | cannot upload a file in lynx, jhutchins |
| 17:38.52 | azarus | i think |
| 17:39.13 | azarus | And by the way, links is better :P |
| 17:39.19 | jhutchins | azarus: I've done it. As long as the upload page is clean enough to load properly. |
| 17:39.49 | jhutchins | azarus: I've really only ever used lynx, just never tried the others. |
| 17:39.50 | azarus | Oh! It works? I'll try, thanks for the suggestion. |
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| 17:40.42 | azarus | lynx is installed. Best site for uploading? |
| 17:41.25 | jelly | paste.debian.net maybe? |
| 17:41.30 | jhutchins | azarus: greycat suggested termbin.com |
| 17:41.32 | sebboh | I'm looking at https://wiki.debian.org/BackupAndRecovery ... There are various competing packages here. How do I know which one is widely used? Which one is mature software? |
| 17:41.32 | greycat | See, I knew he didn't mean uploading. He meant "pasting to an anonymous web site". |
| 17:42.23 | sebboh | greycat: or even "pasting to a website that will let anybody paste without signup" |
| 17:42.28 | greycat | yes |
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| 17:43.10 | azarus | Is this correct? http://termbin.com/uenx |
| 17:43.18 | sebboh | I hear there's some "networked clipboard" software now. |
| 17:43.20 | jhutchins | I think that technically you could do it with curl, but you'd have to know the syntax of the POST command from the online form. |
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| 17:44.31 | jelly | I don't know any pastebins that accept raw binary files with an easy POST-only API |
| 17:44.54 | karl_ | hi ! using network-manager to set up a gsm connection (bob in austria) fails due to a wrong telephone number in the preset |
| 17:45.04 | karl_ | would anyone know where to report that bug ? |
| 17:45.48 | sebboh | if the goal is to post the contents of a file on the internet (for example, to rescue some log from a damaged machine) then check out the Debian package named pastebinit. (Note: I haven't tried this package, but the description looks good.) If your file is binary, consider base64 encoding it. (A tool to do that is probably already installed.) |
| 17:46.14 | jelly | o lol |
| 17:46.35 | jelly | yes, base64 encoding a small .pcap might to the trick |
| 17:47.44 | jhutchins | azarus: That URL yeilds a very short unreadable binary |
| 17:47.53 | jelly | azarus: that termbin link gives just 5 bytes dowload |
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| 17:48.48 | sebboh | Meanwhile, what's a mature, popular backup tool for GNU/Debian? Some context: my first deb machine was a pentium 120. ...So it's not like I don't know what I'm doing. ...However, I've just kinda ignored the whole concepts of backups... This entire time. It's kinda embarassing. But hell, I'm over 30 now. Time to backup some of these machines. |
| 17:48.57 | sebboh | I need recommendations, please! |
| 17:49.52 | jelly | amanda sure is mature! |
| 17:49.54 | jelly | hides |
| 17:49.59 | fguide | sebboh: you're really luck not having to rely on backup for what, 20 years? |
| 17:50.02 | sebboh | If you have a five byte binary file you need to transfer somewhere, consider using hexdump -C myfile | pen_and_paper ;) |
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| 17:50.10 | Ranzpirat | sebboh: I like personally like obnam because its very easy to use and I don't like software too complicated to set up in a few minutes for private usage |
| 17:51.19 | sebboh | fguide, I have a box of IDE hard drives that I can't read... among other problems. But honestly I've never really lost a system in the middle of USING it... It always happens around the time I've moved on to a new system anyway. :) |
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| 17:51.50 | qqx | sebboh: You must have very good timing. |
| 17:51.57 | sebboh | amanda seems to be a client/server thing. Pass for now. Obnam, checking. |
| 17:52.16 | karl_ | sebboh: have a look at "back in time" |
| 17:52.18 | fguide | sebboh: I envy your lucky as I have lost several in the last years |
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| 17:53.36 | sebboh | I think luck is actually what I've had. Oh, I lost a cellphone, a month ago... Come to think of it that's probably what set me on this path. I had photos in there I cannot recover, due to the phone being physically lost. :( |
| 17:53.40 | karl_ | sebboh: the packages are backintime-gnome/kde |
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| 17:55.32 | azarus | https://wikisend.com/download/115326/alltrafic.pcap |
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| 17:57.36 | azarus | jelly, is the wikisend.com right? |
| 17:57.58 | jelly | dunno, sorry, try it and see? |
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| 17:58.24 | jelly | if it's in the factoid it probably worked at some point |
| 17:58.25 | jelly | !paste |
| 17:58.26 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 17:59.13 | trash_ | hello guys.I have a problem on stretch with lightdm and xfce.I cant see the greeter and i see only a blank screen with blinking cursor...why? |
| 17:59.18 | azarus | I can download it, but what should ido with it? |
| 17:59.37 | greycat | !tell trash_ about debian-next |
| 17:59.49 | jelly | azarus: you mean upload it (the .pcap file)? |
| 17:59.59 | jelly | azarus: tell us the link |
| 18:00.00 | azarus | Yeah |
| 18:00.03 | jelly | for download |
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| 18:00.07 | azarus | I posted it abouve |
| 18:00.10 | azarus | above* |
| 18:00.12 | trash_ | greycat: thanks.i didnt know about this channel |
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| 18:03.04 | jelly | azarus: huh. I couldn't access https:// link and substituting http:// gives me a 404, saying it does not exist or it expired |
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| 18:03.22 | azarus | That's weird. I can download it. |
| 18:03.27 | azarus | Maybe it's a typo |
| 18:03.47 | azarus | wikisend.com/download/115426/alltraffic.pcap |
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| 18:05.04 | jelly | sorry |
| 18:05.06 | jelly | Connecting to wikisend.com (wikisend.com)|208.88.224.214|:443... failed: No route to host. |
| 18:06.01 | jelly | azarus: you can open it with wireshark (gui analyzer for network packet traffic) and see if you can figure things out |
| 18:06.01 | azarus | I can access it |
| 18:06.17 | jelly | azarus: does wikisend.com resolve to a different IP address for you? |
| 18:06.57 | jelly | http://wikisend.com/download/115426/alltrafic.pcap is a 404 again from here |
| 18:06.59 | azarus | Hm. I'll nslook it up |
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| 18:07.09 | azarus | it's with two "f"s |
| 18:08.35 | azarus | That's weird. I can access it with a browser, but i can't resolve it's ip with nslookup |
| 18:09.04 | greycat | wooledg@wooledg:~$ host wikisend.com |
| 18:09.04 | greycat | wikisend.com has address 208.88.224.214 |
| 18:09.12 | greycat | (plus 3 MX records, not shown) |
| 18:09.19 | jelly | azarus: got it. please run "md5sum /tmp/alltraffic.pcap", what are the first 8 hex digits? |
| 18:09.40 | jelly | I'm a bit paranoid what with inability to https |
| 18:10.30 | jelly | and wireshark has had its share of exploits, so I want to be sure it's your file before opening it |
| 18:10.37 | azarus | c8df7 |
| 18:10.47 | jelly | good enough :-) |
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| 18:10.59 | jez9999 | Hi guys, the following: |
| 18:10.59 | jelly | c8df707628c71e8a7da2b8ef50cc469a Download/alltraffic.pcap |
| 18:11.03 | jez9999 | su - debian-spamd -c "sa-update --gpghomedir /var/lib/spamassassin/sa-update-keys" |
| 18:11.09 | jez9999 | gives me: |
| 18:11.14 | jez9999 | error: unable to refresh mirrors file for channel updates.spamassassin.org, using old file |
| 18:11.17 | azarus | jelly, fits perfectly |
| 18:11.18 | jez9999 | channel: could not find working mirror, channel failed |
| 18:11.25 | jez9999 | So there's a serious error updating my spamassassin - does anyone know what might be wrong? |
| 18:11.29 | jez9999 | my update keys being invalid or something? it's a standard Debian Jessie install. |
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| 18:13.04 | jelly | azarus: well damn, there's no dhcp traffic in there at all. You sure you ran "ifup eth0" during that time? |
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| 18:13.35 | azarus | Yes. |
| 18:14.25 | jelly | hmph |
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| 18:20.36 | azarus | Should i reboot the machine? jelly |
| 18:20.39 | jelly | azarus: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 18:21.11 | azarus | On it. |
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| 18:22.22 | azarus | http://paste.debian.net/876402 |
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| 18:24.08 | jelly | right, that's very default |
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| 18:24.32 | azarus | Yup |
| 18:24.33 | jelly | oh well, you can try reboot, maybe it makes a difference for some reason |
| 18:24.50 | jelly | azarus: I'd rather reboot the AP, if that's where the DHCP server lives, tho |
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| 18:25.14 | jelly | maybe both at the same time so they forget about each other |
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| 18:30.53 | azarus | Now my bridge always takes down my internet, jelly |
| 18:31.01 | jelly | artaoss: and if windows and debian get the same IP afterwards as well, you can make a temporary workaround on debian and configure a static ip in interfaces |
| 18:31.15 | jelly | https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually |
| 18:31.25 | jelly | azarus: ^ |
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| 18:32.07 | artaoss | peace out ysa'll |
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| 18:34.21 | azarus_ | I'll reboot the host again. |
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| 18:37.02 | jez9999 | Hi guys, the following: |
| 18:37.02 | jez9999 | su - debian-spamd -c "sa-update --gpghomedir /var/lib/spamassassin/sa-update-keys" |
| 18:37.02 | jez9999 | gives me: |
| 18:37.02 | jez9999 | error: unable to refresh mirrors file for channel updates.spamassassin.org, using old file |
| 18:37.02 | jez9999 | channel: could not find working mirror, channel failed |
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| 18:38.32 | azarus | Did no good, jelly |
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| 18:39.23 | azarus | Should i verify that it works with other clients? |
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| 18:40.19 | jelly | azarus: no idea then. Maybe you could manually configure two different static IP assignments for the MAC addresses for the windows machine and the debian machine into the dhcp server, if the firmware allows for that |
| 18:40.26 | random_numbers | So, I'm having printer problems. All of the settings validate with the jessie, xfce4 'system-config-printer' thing, except that when I press 'apply' nothing happens. |
| 18:40.31 | random_numbers | Do I need to be root? |
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| 18:41.00 | jelly | azarus: if arch has a live usb, you might try to boot that on the same machine where debian has problems |
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| 18:41.28 | jelly | azarus: if arch works on the same hardware, then it'd be clear debian's dhcp client setup is doing SOMETHING wrong |
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| 18:42.30 | greycat | Or there's a magic configuration option that Debian isn't setting. |
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| 18:45.22 | jelly | that would be an example of doing something wrong, yeah |
| 18:45.25 | teraflops | azarus: sorry Im missing context and I have no buffer, is dhclient failing? |
| 18:45.26 | random_numbers | I managed to find the ppd, smb login works, everything validates, that's what makes this kind of curious. It implies the problem is with debian. |
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| 18:46.17 | azarus_ | teraflops, i've got problems connecting a debian machine to a windows hosting a bridge. |
| 18:46.32 | jelly | teraflops: A (debian) <-> (wire) <-> B (windows, bridge) <-> (wifi) <-> AP (dhcp server) |
| 18:46.43 | teraflops | ah |
| 18:46.56 | azarus_ | jelly, got it right |
| 18:47.19 | jelly | teraflops: B and A apparently get the same IP address (or accept the same dhcp offer when one maybe ought not to) |
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| 18:47.36 | jelly | teraflops: this makes the network on A fail to work |
| 18:48.00 | jelly | s/the network/IP connectivity/ |
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| 18:48.06 | teraflops | ah good pint |
| 18:48.08 | azarus_ | Also, briding sometimes makes b fail |
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| 18:48.25 | unborn | pint? :) yeah I love pints :) |
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| 18:48.37 | teraflops | azarus_: I was about to ask what network manager are you using there |
| 18:48.43 | azarus_ | Where? |
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| 18:48.46 | jelly | ifupdown apparently |
| 18:48.49 | jelly | on A |
| 18:48.50 | teraflops | NM, /e/n/i? |
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| 18:48.59 | `Kevin | IS A a different network on the debian host than the bridge? what is failing on A ? |
| 18:49.02 | teraflops | so /e/n/i? debian machine azarus_ |
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| 18:49.15 | azarus_ | Dunno, stock, no de |
| 18:49.27 | jelly | teraflops: /e/n/i = ifupdown yes |
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| 18:49.46 | teraflops | azarus_: archlinux uses dhcpcd debian uses dhclient iirc |
| 18:50.03 | azarus_ | Ah, okay. So dhclient is failing? |
| 18:50.05 | jelly | manually configuring a different IP address in the same segment makes things work |
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| 18:50.26 | random_numbers | So apparently root is required to add anything to the 'system-config-printer', which implies that despite opening as a plain user, it does enact system-wide settings. |
| 18:50.26 | teraflops | azarus_: yeah give a try to dhcpcd instead dhclient |
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| 18:50.37 | teraflops | it's in debian too |
| 18:50.46 | unborn | jelly: yeah but does the user wanted to be automatic? |
| 18:51.01 | unborn | you know what I mean |
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| 18:51.23 | jelly | unborn: I didn't ask, presumably that was the idea of the last hour of debugging the whole thing! |
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| 18:52.04 | Quatroking | wuh woh |
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| 18:52.05 | anddam | any hint about how should I proceed with this error on a USB disk? https://gist.github.com/anddam/e176c365a9ea67e151957ab32e381cec |
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| 18:52.21 | jelly | argh. |
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| 18:52.25 | Quatroking | haha |
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| 18:52.35 | `Kevin | is this .... client -> debian host -> windows -> dhcpd AP ? (something other than debian asking for dhcp outside of the bridge?) or is it debian asking for dhcp and failing |
| 18:52.36 | jelly | screw you, bot |
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| 18:52.41 | teraflops | I've seen weird behaviours where dhcpcd works an dhclient don't and the other way around |
| 18:52.44 | azarus_ | splitting is becoming oh so common |
| 18:52.44 | redlegion | Ha |
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| 18:52.58 | unborn | jelly: i understand but that bum question should be asked right a way.. it will lead you to end of troubleshooting if user is wrong.. anyway.. my knowledge is very limited in this so I would like to learn a bit more by just reading you both. - thanks |
| 18:53.02 | random_numbers | freenode might want to use more servers. |
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| 18:53.22 | jelly | random_numbers: so they can split even more? |
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| 18:53.31 | teraflops | xD |
| 18:53.33 | redlegion | Pmuch |
| 18:53.36 | azarus_ | :P |
| 18:53.44 | DammitJim | if ps aux gives me this, tomcat7 1172 0.7 17.6 3054896 716308 |
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| 18:53.57 | greycat | Dem's some big numbers. |
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| 18:54.06 | jelly | no, that's just java |
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| 18:54.10 | random_numbers | jelly: Well, what is it that causes netsplits? Crappy network infrastructure? |
| 18:54.12 | DammitJim | does it mean it's got 3GB allocated address space and 716k memory used? |
| 18:54.21 | redlegion | Maybe they can start running tiny ircds on open IoT devices found laying around |
| 18:54.22 | jelly | random_numbers: ask in #freenode |
| 18:54.22 | greycat | 716 MB used |
| 18:54.23 | DammitJim | or am I reading that wrong? |
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| 18:54.30 | teraflops | random_numbers: ddos and/or dusting the servers :P |
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| 18:54.35 | DammitJim | sorry, 716MB used |
| 18:54.39 | DammitJim | 3GB allocated |
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| 18:54.59 | DammitJim | so, I still have plenty of room for use? |
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| 18:55.17 | greycat | !free ram |
| 18:55.17 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 18:55.18 | jelly | DammitJim: "top", press M (uppercase) |
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| 18:55.37 | DammitJim | jelly, ok |
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| 18:55.46 | DammitJim | what am I looking for? |
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| 18:56.38 | DammitJim | VIRT seems similar ~ 3GB |
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| 18:56.47 | DammitJim | and RES with 716M |
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| 18:57.10 | jelly | DammitJim: now you can take a look at large consumers of RES, the difference between RES and VIRT(VSZ) in other processes, and also whether there's cached/free RAM and whether there's changes in swap usage |
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| 18:57.28 | DammitJim | yeah, no swap |
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| 18:57.55 | jelly | DammitJim: then your processes have just reserved some address space, but never actually used it |
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| 18:58.30 | jelly | this is pretty much the norm with server jvm stuff |
| 18:58.31 | DammitJim | ok, awesome |
| 18:58.37 | DammitJim | so, I'm in good shapt |
| 18:58.39 | DammitJim | shape |
| 18:58.45 | DammitJim | I do need to learn how to size a server properly |
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| 18:58.55 | greycat | This being "the norm" for "just java" does not contradict the fact that dem's some big numbers. |
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| 18:58.58 | DammitJim | like if I have more tomcat7 instances |
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| 18:59.07 | DammitJim | and able to determine if I need to add more vCPUs or RAM |
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| 18:59.12 | teraflops | swap looks like a good idea no matter the amount of ram you have |
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| 18:59.35 | DammitJim | what do you mean swap? |
| 18:59.43 | unborn | DammitJim: its on google - and its not debian specific issue - good luck with tomcat :) |
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| 18:59.49 | teraflops | swap partition/file |
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| 18:59.58 | jelly | DammitJim: I hope they mean "minimize the size of" |
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| 18:59.59 | jelly | :-) |
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| 19:00.11 | DammitJim | I know |
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| 19:00.17 | TwistedFate | Anyone knows how fast new mesa versions drop in debian sid? |
| 19:00.27 | DammitJim | teraflops, were you talking to me? |
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| 19:01.02 | jelly | TwistedFate: weeks-small amount of months, maybe, unless debian is in the "freeze" part of the release cycle |
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| 19:01.13 | teraflops | DammitJim: not really I just read swap somewhere and I jumped sorry |
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| 19:01.15 | jelly | ,v libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 19:01.16 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-glx on amd64 -- wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 12.0.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 12.0.3-1; sid: 12.0.3-1 |
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| 19:01.39 | jelly | TwistedFate: when was 12.0.3 released? |
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| 19:02.08 | TwistedFate | jelly, I do not know, I guess it's pretty new since Arch has it as well. |
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| 19:02.19 | azarus_ | Hm. Guess dhclient has just failed me for good |
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| 19:02.35 | teraflops | azarus_: tried dhcpcd? |
| 19:02.38 | TomTomTo1 | 09/2016. 12.0.3 is the current mesa release. |
| 19:02.54 | jelly | teraflops: how does one make ifupdown use a different dhcp client, anyway? |
| 19:03.13 | teraflops | hmm no idea, I know how to change it on NM |
| 19:03.17 | jelly | except with "iface ... inet manual" and some "up" lines |
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| 19:03.45 | azarus_ | I'll install dhcpdc |
| 19:03.48 | azarus_ | dhcpcd |
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| 19:04.02 | teraflops | jelly: but a simple sudo dhcpcd would check id it's dhclient's fault |
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| 19:04.12 | teraflops | if* |
| 19:04.19 | unborn | if |
| 19:04.39 | unborn | I mean he mentioned that already :) |
| 19:04.47 | azarus_ | dhcpcd has no installation candidate |
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| 19:05.18 | jelly | judd: file bin/dhcpcd |
| 19:05.21 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 19:05.27 | jelly | judd: file bin/dhcpc |
| 19:05.29 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 19:05.33 | jelly | gives up |
| 19:05.50 | teraflops | wait I have it in jessie machine |
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| 19:06.25 | azarus_ | Backports? |
| 19:06.31 | jelly | azarus_: dhcpcd5 apparently |
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| 19:06.38 | jelly | ,i dhcpcd5 |
| 19:06.39 | judd | Package dhcpcd5 (net, optional) in jessie/amd64: DHCPv4, IPv6RA and DHCPv6 client with IPv4LL support. Version: 6.0.5-2; Size: 94.3k; Installed: 280k; Homepage: http://roy.marples.name/projects/dhcpcd |
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| 19:07.08 | `Kevin | azarus_: i would try using arping and the mac addr of the AP |
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| 19:07.30 | jelly | azarus_: for future reference, "apt-cache search keyword" is good for an initial search |
| 19:07.33 | azarus_ | How do i switch ip again? |
| 19:07.41 | `Kevin | arping would confirm L2 connectivity |
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| 19:08.11 | jelly | azarus: ip a del 192.168.43.242/24 dev eth0 && ip a add 192.168.43.142/24 dev eth0 && ip r add default via 192.168.43.1 |
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| 19:08.56 | unborn | `Kevin - that will not work... |
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| 19:09.08 | `Kevin | unborn: why not? |
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| 19:09.26 | jelly | azarus_: for extra fun, run each command separately instead of one liner with &&, and look at "ip a" and "ip r" in between |
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| 19:10.22 | jelly | `Kevin: it ought to work, we already confirmed IP connectivity is restored if the user manually configures a different, less used IP |
| 19:10.44 | azarus_ | ip a |
| 19:10.52 | azarus_ | Sorry, wrong keyboard :P |
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| 19:11.14 | unborn | `Kevin if you read it correctly.. it would not... |
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| 19:11.17 | `Kevin | jelly: i suppose my point in that is if we can confirm UNICAST L2 is BROADCAST L2 failing? if it is not then perhaps windows is intercepting the DHCP requests |
| 19:11.18 | jelly | `Kevin: unborn seems to often make random comments without expertise to back it up, for some reason |
| 19:11.52 | jelly | `Kevin: I suspect either debian's or windows' dhcp client accept an offer for the other guy |
| 19:12.05 | azarus_ | jelly, gives back "RTNERLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address" |
| 19:12.25 | jelly | azarus_: what's the "ip a" right now, then |
| 19:12.59 | teraflops | hmm /sbin/dhcpcd -> /etc/alternatives/dhcpcd |
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| 19:13.47 | azarus_ | I cannot read an IP in ip a, |
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| 19:13.53 | teraflops | `Kevin: but he says it works with archlinux client |
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| 19:14.30 | `Kevin | teraflops: interesting .. sorry huge backlog :) |
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| 19:14.54 | jelly | azarus_: then run just the "ip a add..." thing |
| 19:15.11 | teraflops | that's the things I'd troubleshoot running tcpdump/wireshark on the bridge machine |
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| 19:16.16 | jelly | ideally I'd look at what happens at AP end, and Debian end, but not many AP firmwares allow you to run a sniffer :-) |
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| 19:16.41 | teraflops | nope and yeah in the debian machine |
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| 19:19.05 | azarus_ | jelly, Had no luck with the previous commands, no connection |
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| 19:20.08 | jelly | azarus_: is the ip address up? |
| 19:20.15 | jelly | and the default route? |
| 19:20.26 | azarus_ | I think so, a sec |
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| 19:20.34 | jelly | azarus_: screenshot of "ip a" and "ip r" |
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| 19:21.00 | azarus_ | Yup it's up |
| 19:22.11 | azarus_ | jelly, it looks just like my previous screenshot |
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| 19:23.34 | jelly | azarus_: but you still have no connectivity? |
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| 19:23.47 | jelly | azarus_: "ping 8.8.8.8", for example? |
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| 19:24.51 | azarus_ | Yes, jelly, ping gives me Destination Host Unreachable |
| 19:25.26 | jelly | azarus_: show the screenshot of "ip a" and "ip r" please |
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| 19:27.49 | jhutchins | I wonder what would happen if the windows box was unplugged and the Debian box connected directly. |
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| 19:28.14 | azarus_ | https://imgur.com/hJ9nZKh |
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| 19:28.46 | mdlpe | hi, i made a fresh install of Jessie Cinamon. After installing nivdia driver from backport cinamon crash and stay in safe mod |
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| 19:29.32 | azarus_ | jhutchins, not possible, since the windows is connected to wireless and the debian box has no wireless |
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| 19:30.12 | jelly | azarus_: can you ping 192.168.43.1 ? |
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| 19:31.00 | azarus_ | jelly, No. |
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| 19:32.12 | jelly | azarus_: can you... "arping -c 1 -I eth0 -U 192.168.43.142" then try to ping .1 again? |
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| 19:32.36 | jelly | gratuitous arp, I'm getting desperate |
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| 19:33.00 | azarus_ | arp is not installed |
| 19:33.10 | jelly | sigh |
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| 19:33.38 | jelly | azarus_: can you at least ping the windows machine's ip address? |
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| 19:35.04 | jelly | azarus_: screenshot "arp -an" after that, let's see if there was ANYTHING visible recently |
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| 19:35.47 | jelly | in particular, the windows machine and the AP at 192.168.43.1 should NOT have the same MAC address |
| 19:36.06 | jelly | if they do, it means windows doesn't really bridge |
| 19:36.22 | greycat | arp is in /usr/sbin in the net-tools package which is "important" |
| 19:36.59 | jelly | I assumed they meant "arping" was not installed |
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| 19:37.29 | jelly | greycat: if base system does not have arp I'm switching to OSX!! |
| 19:37.40 | azarus | Well, my bridge just crashed again. |
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| 19:37.50 | greycat | I assumed he was trying something as non-root or with /usr/sbin not in PATH |
| 19:37.53 | jelly | ... and burned? |
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| 19:38.04 | azarus | And drove off the bridge |
| 19:38.08 | azarus | Then exploded |
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| 19:38.37 | saturne | hi |
| 19:38.45 | jelly | greycat: https://i.imgur.com/hJ9nZKh.jpg and previous screenshots show root |
| 19:38.50 | saturne | i try to compil squid on debian and / or ubuntu, to make a .deb package |
| 19:38.56 | saturne | i've a little problem at the end of compilation, i don't know if it missing a library, or another thing |
| 19:39.02 | saturne | dh_install -psquid-common --sourcedir=/home/squid/squid3-3.5.12/debian/tmp |
| 19:39.09 | saturne | dh_install: squid-common missing files: usr/share/squid/mime.conf |
| 19:39.15 | saturne | dh_install: missing files, aborting |
| 19:39.21 | saturne | /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk:213: recipe for target 'binary-install/squid-common' failed |
| 19:39.24 | jelly | oh, ip is in /bin in debian |
| 19:39.26 | saturne | have you an idea? |
| 19:39.37 | jelly | ,v squid3 |
| 19:39.38 | judd | Package: squid3 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u6; wheezy-backports: 3.4.8-6+deb8u2~bpo70+1+b1; jessie: 3.4.8-6+deb8u3; jessie-security: 3.4.8-6+deb8u3; sid: 3.5.19-1; stretch: 3.5.19-1 |
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| 19:40.25 | jelly | saturne: forgot to run "apt-get build-dep squid3"? which debian release? 3.4.8 is not fresh enough for you? |
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| 19:41.31 | azarus | Hm. I'm beginning to think a bridge might not be the solution, since i will have direct cable to the router in November |
| 19:41.36 | saturne | jelly, no, i need to add --with-openssl --enable-ssl-crtd and probably to modify source of squid about, maybe, a little bug |
| 19:42.15 | saturne | so i want to make .deb |
| 19:42.44 | greycat | apt-get source, make modifications, rebuild .debs |
| 19:42.58 | saturne | yep, apt-get source |
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| 19:43.00 | jelly | saturne: that's question number 3 answered. What about questions 1 and 2? |
| 19:43.19 | saturne | and after, debuild -us -uc -b |
| 19:43.39 | jelly | saturne: 1. forgot to run "apt-get build-dep squid3"? 2. which debian release? |
| 19:44.00 | saturne | jelly, oh ok, ii try on debian 8, and ubuntu 16.04 |
| 19:44.32 | saturne | i do apt-get source, tard wvfz the source, cp debian/ direcgtory |
| 19:44.38 | saturne | modufy rules to add ssl |
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| 19:44.45 | saturne | and debuild -us -uc -b after |
| 19:44.57 | saturne | and 'ive the error on debian and ubuntu |
| 19:45.13 | jelly | apt-get source on debian 8 would NOT give you 3.5.12 source |
| 19:45.32 | saturne | jelly, yep :) |
| 19:45.33 | jelly | saturne: which deb-src lines do you have enabled on debian ? |
| 19:46.04 | saturne | oh, now i delete my lxc debian because i've the error too, i've a lxc ubuntu 16.04 now... |
| 19:46.24 | saturne | to have this version of squid |
| 19:46.36 | jelly | come ask in here when you can reproduce the issue on an actual Debian installation |
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| 19:46.51 | saturne | ok... |
| 19:47.13 | jelly | saturne: when you have a debian setup, read /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 19:50.14 | AciD` | hey, I want to set the 'hidepid=2' option for /proc on my Debian Stretch install, but I don't see any /proc line in the fstab. Is that new? Where can I set this option now? |
| 19:50.55 | jelly | dpkg, tell AciD` about debian-next |
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| 19:51.41 | AciD` | jelly -> '#debian-next: Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited' :( |
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| 19:51.55 | AciD` | ah, nevermind |
| 19:52.02 | AciD` | it's on another network....bummer |
| 19:52.24 | jelly | you're one of the rare people to have read the whole message, congrats! |
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| 19:52.29 | AciD` | hehe |
| 19:52.34 | AciD` | after a second go ;) |
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| 19:53.01 | AciD` | it's kinda funny to see it stated twice in those very short sentence |
| 19:53.02 | AciD` | :) |
| 19:53.06 | AciD` | the irony |
| 19:53.34 | AciD` | well, setting up a new network on my bnc is a pita, so I guess I'll pass |
| 19:53.39 | AciD` | :) |
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| 20:00.38 | Drzacek | Hi |
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| 20:01.38 | Drzacek | I was running my debian system from USB HDD, looks like it was uncleanly unmounted (more like moved/shaked or the usb cable lost contact for a while), now it wont boot. Any chance for rescuing it? |
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| 20:07.40 | Drzacek | tried fsck on sdd1 (boot partition on my now-broken disk), he recovered some orphaned things, didn't helped with booting |
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| 20:17.37 | _grizzly_ | Drzacek: check that your boot partition have a bootable flag + check files on boot part (kernel + initramfs) |
| 20:17.54 | greycat | The bootable flag hasn't had any meaning for years. |
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| 20:18.54 | Drzacek | _grizzly_, fdisk -l shows '*' on /dev/sdd1, so it is bootable |
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| 20:19.54 | _grizzly_ | "idn't helped with booting" -- can you access to GRUB (or what you use) |
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| 20:22.00 | Drzacek | _grizzly_, it won't boot, instead the GRUB installed on my internal HDD kicks in (in BIOS, USB drives have highest priority) |
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| 20:22.39 | milosz_ | hi all, im trying to install kali linux. I want to install it on a drive which is already encrypted (luks+lvm), with unencrypted /boot. Unfortunetly kali installer doesn't have cryptsetup, so what should I do to install it on this drive? |
| 20:22.44 | greycat | !kali |
| 20:22.44 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 20:31.12 | fffooo | hey |
| 20:31.52 | fffooo | I found out, that I should learn some linux sysadmin stuff, could you recommend me any book/blog/tutorial whatever, which is worth of time to read/learn? |
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| 20:33.16 | milosz_ | greycat: is #kali-linux up, because i can't join? |
| 20:33.27 | greycat | They might require registration. I have no idea. |
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| 20:40.52 | microbit | hello |
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| 20:42.58 | somiaj | fffooo: https://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 20:43.49 | microbit | i have a problem on debian/jessie ... my screen-resoultion gets auto-re-adjusted when im running games in fullscreen ... i have no idea why that is happening |
| 20:44.09 | somiaj | microbit: what graphics card/driver? |
| 20:45.19 | microbit | uuuh i have a amd radeon mobile 5000 series ... and using the "Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR ?" -driver ... |
| 20:45.53 | somiaj | microbit: is this installed from the debian repos or from amd directly? Sometimes drivers will adjust stuff in full screen depending on the app that is running. |
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| 20:46.02 | somiaj | but I would look at to see what the actual driver is doing |
| 20:46.38 | fffooo | somiaj: awesome, thx! |
| 20:47.16 | microbit | i think i remember i did install it from the debian-repos ... (does amd even provide their own drivers for linux?) |
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| 20:47.56 | somiaj | microbit: there is the free 'radeon' driver and the non-free fglrx (though now called amdgpu) driver -- but I'm not that familar with amd/ati cards |
| 20:48.22 | somiaj | microbit: debian provides the non-free driver (and it is prefered to use the one debian provides) but you can just download the driver from amd which you shoudl not do in debian |
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| 20:52.08 | microbit | somiaj : well apart from the resolution-re-adjusting ... everything works fine with my driver ... but i make multiplayer-games lag hard , when this is happening ... game starts freezing .. screen turns black ... then it takes a couple of seconds till my machine is back ... |
| 20:52.48 | microbit | its pretty strange , and happens kinda randomly |
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| 20:53.15 | somiaj | microbit: lets figure out what driver you are really using. can you put a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log at paste.debian.net? |
| 20:53.25 | microbit | yes |
| 20:53.45 | gentoo__ | hi, jessie broken after installed nvidia driver |
| 20:54.19 | teraflops | gentoo__: how did you install it? |
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| 20:55.34 | gentoo__ | teraflops, i installed linux header 3.16, nvidia driver from jessie backports and ran nvidia xconfig |
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| 20:56.48 | somiaj | gentoo__: delete the config file nvidia xconfig created and just create your own, it only needs a few lines |
| 20:57.13 | somiaj | gentoo__: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Manual just need the four lines given there |
| 20:57.43 | gentoo__ | somiaj, wait i take a look |
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| 21:00.37 | gentoo__ | somiaj, i remove the nvidia driver ? |
| 21:00.49 | microbit | somiaj : http://pastebin.com/xQ3iG0yV |
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| 21:01.07 | somiaj | gentoo__: no, 'nvidia xconfig' creates a /var/log/xorg.conf that may not be that useful. Instead only create the xorg.conf as per th elink I shared |
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| 21:02.24 | somiaj | microbit: you are using the radeon 'free' driver. You have installed firmware-linux-nonfree correct? |
| 21:02.36 | microbit | uuuuuuh |
| 21:02.58 | somiaj | microbit: the non-free driver can sometimes get better preformance for games than the open driver. But I'm not that familar with radeon cards and which ones the non-free driver currently supports. |
| 21:03.08 | somiaj | microbit: dpkg -l firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 21:05.05 | microbit | somiaj : what should this command do ? |
| 21:05.12 | microbit | output my version ? |
| 21:05.17 | somiaj | microbit: checks if you have linux-firmware-nonfree installed. |
| 21:05.24 | gentoo__ | somiaj, i will try if i do not come back if because i am dead... |
| 21:05.26 | somiaj | microbit: it should start with 'ii' to say it is installed. |
| 21:05.32 | microbit | yeah |
| 21:05.41 | microbit | ii firmware-linux 0.43 all Binary firmware for various drive |
| 21:05.47 | microbit | okay |
| 21:06.05 | somiaj | microbit: that is firmware-linux, not firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 21:06.17 | greycat | maybe truncated because he forgot to | cat |
| 21:06.28 | somiaj | oh yea, that could be the case. |
| 21:06.28 | microbit | hm ... i think i did install the free version , because this actually worked when i installed linux for the first time |
| 21:06.41 | microbit | or ... |
| 21:06.51 | somiaj | microbit: You may find you get better support if you install linux-firmware-nonfree (if it hasn't been installed yet) |
| 21:06.59 | greycat | ,v firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 21:07.00 | judd | Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20160824-1~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20160824-1; stretch/non-free: 20160824-1 |
| 21:07.06 | greycat | ,v firmware-linux |
| 21:07.07 | judd | Package: firmware-linux on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20160824-1~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20160824-1; stretch/non-free: 20160824-1 |
| 21:07.26 | greycat | Hmm, well that wasn't as helpful as I hoped. |
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| 21:08.02 | b3ta | Hello? |
| 21:08.20 | microbit | somiaj : can i just ... install that ... and it overwrites my current drivers ? |
| 21:08.21 | somiaj | that is because firmware-linux is a meta package that depends on both firmware-linux-free and firmware-linux-nonfree it seems (forgot about that) |
| 21:08.40 | somiaj | microbit: Your current drivers will work better if you hvae the non-free firmware for them installed. |
| 21:08.47 | b3ta | How anonymous is is hexchat? |
| 21:08.47 | somiaj | microbit: this is different than using the non-free driver. |
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| 21:09.14 | b3ta | Hello? |
| 21:09.52 | b3ta | HELLO |
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| 21:10.02 | b3ta | CAN ANYONE HEAR ME? |
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| 21:10.17 | microbit | you have to type louder |
| 21:10.24 | microbit | then maybe |
| 21:10.51 | microbit | somiaj : so what should i do now ? |
| 21:11.07 | b3ta | HELLO |
| 21:11.15 | b3ta | ARE YOU KIDDING ME |
| 21:11.21 | b3ta | ARE YOU KIDDING ME |
| 21:11.22 | b3ta | ARE YOU KIDDING MEARE YOU KIDDING ME |
| 21:11.23 | b3ta | ARE YOU KIDDING ME |
| 21:11.43 | somiaj | microbit: if you don't have the nonfree firmwre installed, install it and see if your driver works better. |
| 21:12.32 | microbit | okay |
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| 21:13.11 | somiaj | if you have it installed (which you might) this is a moot conversation. At that point I'm not sure if it is worth trying the non-free drivers or not for your card |
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| 21:17.30 | microbit | somiaj : is there maybe a log that i can post ... when this is happening again ... i mean the resolution-re-adjusting ? |
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| 21:18.29 | microbit | ah you know what ... it might be a swap ... i remember i did fix something on my ram ... that was like a month ago ... |
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| 21:19.34 | microbit | one sec |
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| 21:24.51 | microbit | somiaj : found that in my browser-history ... and i think i remember adding something to a file ... to make my system swap less often ... https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170070 |
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| 21:25.13 | microbit | but ... somehow ... this problem is back ... |
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| 21:28.13 | microbit | somiaj : which means , i cant actually tell if the resolution is re-adjusting ... it just gives the impression ... by freezing -> turning black for a couple of seconds .... and recovering ... |
| 21:28.42 | microbit | so that might be also a problem with the swappiness |
| 21:28.47 | microbit | i cant tell for sure |
| 21:29.17 | microbit | *could be also |
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| 21:30.06 | somiaj | microbit: when many games go into full screen, they will change the resolution because games like to set their own resolution. You can sometimes configure games to not do this |
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| 21:33.37 | microbit | somiaj : yeah , but the problems i have ... are mostly happening when im already ingame for a while ... |
| 21:34.37 | somiaj | well there are lots of logs, dmesg, you can keep an eye on Xorg.0.log, or sometimes $HOME/.xsession-errors |
| 21:36.24 | microbit | yeah , ill give it a break ... see if it will happen again (now that i rebooted since the last time it happend) ... then check some logs and see what is happening during that time ... and eventually come back here |
| 21:36.41 | microbit | :) |
| 21:36.46 | microbit | thx for your help |
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| 21:51.26 | romeu | I can't boot debian jessie from USB Stick, gives me an error: Failed to load ldlinux.c32 |
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| 21:51.55 | romeu | someone please help me |
| 21:52.00 | somiaj | romeu: how did you create the usb stick? what image did you use? |
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| 21:52.49 | sappel | Good Evening. Anyone around who can help me with some routing issue? I have a debian system running with eth0 and eth1. eth1 is dhcp with default gw. eth0 is connected to local lan. the maschine acts as a VPN gateway since it's bringing up two VTI interfaces |
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| 21:53.20 | romeu | use cp /dev/sdb ~/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso and also dd if=debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/sdb |
| 21:53.23 | sappel | I have the problem that my routing to eth0 is not working when ipsec is running, but it works when its stopped |
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| 21:54.20 | `Kevin | sappel: what does your routing table look like with ipsec off vs running? |
| 21:54.23 | romeu | both methods got me a boot failed |
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| 21:54.53 | somiaj | romeu: run a checksum on your .iso image to make sure it isn't corrupt. You seem to be doing things correctly |
| 21:55.12 | romeu | ok, wait a minute |
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| 21:55.41 | sappel | Kevin: it looks the same ;) the ipsec adds another routing table with id 220...this one looks different, but it only exists when ipsec is up |
| 21:56.06 | somiaj | sappel: is your eth0 to eth1 routing set up via iptables? |
| 21:56.51 | somiaj | sappel: i.e. usually when you have to interfaces one on a local networkand one on the outside network, you use the nat table of iptables to translate between the two networks. |
| 21:57.03 | sappel | somiaj, how do you mean? I'm not (yet) routing between eth1 and eth0...only trying to get eth1 working properly |
| 21:57.25 | sappel | i'm not translating yet. |
| 21:57.28 | somiaj | sappel: okay I missunederstood your setup then. |
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| 21:58.00 | sappel | eth1 = 10.0.50.10/24 and I try to ping 10.0.50.15 from the maschine itself |
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| 21:58.31 | sappel | when ipsec is running, I can only ping it with "ping -I eth1 10.0.50.15". If ipsec is stopped, it works normally |
| 21:58.49 | `Kevin | does a traceroute show it hitting the tunnel interface? |
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| 21:58.51 | azarus | Hey guys, how do i change the keyboard config effectifely? I've ran keyboard-configuration, but it doesnt change anything |
| 21:59.08 | sappel | no, it's hitting the default gw via eth0 |
| 21:59.15 | mrtrump | hm |
| 21:59.34 | format_c | sappel, how does the crypto domain for IPsec look like? Which IPsec daemon do you use? |
| 21:59.49 | sappel | eth0 = 10.100.100.99/24 and gw is 10.100.100.1. |
| 21:59.53 | mrtrump | anyone get swi prolog going on debian? |
| 21:59.59 | sappel | format_c, strongswan |
| 22:00.05 | `Kevin | sappel: i mean `traceroute 10.0.50.15` when ipsec is up |
| 22:00.15 | `Kevin | that shouldnt go over eth0 or ipsec ? |
| 22:00.19 | format_c | crypto domain? |
| 22:00.56 | sappel | yes, it shouldn't, but it actually goes to gw of eth0, 10.100.100.1 |
| 22:01.09 | sappel | format_c, you mean the other side of the vpn? |
| 22:01.14 | `Kevin | ah |
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| 22:01.54 | format_c | sappel, in IPsec you normally define the "interessting traffic" called crypto domain |
| 22:02.03 | `Kevin | right so ^ |
| 22:02.18 | `Kevin | what are your networks/subnets defined as in ipsec ... same question |
| 22:02.28 | format_c | Furthermore what `Kevin is talking about: have you defined multiple default gateways on different adapters? |
| 22:02.42 | sappel | 10.1.20.0/24 |
| 22:02.49 | sappel | no, only one default gw |
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| 22:03.09 | format_c | OK You can only have one default gateway |
| 22:03.20 | format_c | you cannot have two. |
| 22:03.25 | sappel | there are two crypto domains, 10.1.20.0/24 and 172.16.13.0/24 |
| 22:03.37 | sappel | I only have one :) |
| 22:03.46 | format_c | OK |
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| 22:05.03 | sappel | the crypto domain differs from my eth0 network...and actually it doesn't try to go over the vpn when I tracert 10.0.50.15 (eth0=10.0.50.10), but it goes to the default gw, 10.100.100.1 (eth1=10.100.100.99) |
| 22:05.29 | format_c | sappel, That's really complicated to troubleshoot here. I recommend trying a different IPsec implementation. |
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| 22:06.00 | format_c | I've already encountered issues with strongswan in the past but made only good experience with racoon |
| 22:06.12 | sappel | format_c, I'd love to, but that part is external, nothing I can decide or configure |
| 22:06.15 | format_c | I recommend trying racoon for IPsec |
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| 22:06.21 | format_c | sad |
| 22:06.28 | sappel | they only support strongswan + cisco |
| 22:06.36 | `Kevin | sappel: do you still see the `scope link` route for 10.0.50.0/24 in `ip route list` when connected |
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| 22:07.01 | sappel | yes |
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| 22:07.20 | sappel | at least in the main table |
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| 22:10.21 | sappel | ok, I think I found something: When I start IPSec, a new routing table with ID 220 is created. That one doesn't know anything about eth1 |
| 22:11.26 | sappel | sorry, about eth0. If I do "ip route add 10.0.50.0/24 dev eth0 table 220" it somehow works.. |
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| 22:11.45 | sappel | but why does the main table not work in this moment? |
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| 22:12.21 | format_c | sappel, need to "activate" split tunnel? |
| 22:12.31 | druggie | hello, how can i set my fan to its max speed using thinkfan forver? |
| 22:12.50 | sappel | uh..."split tunnel".. |
| 22:12.51 | sappel | = |
| 22:12.53 | sappel | ? |
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| 22:13.19 | `Kevin | sappel: work your way though ip rule show |
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| 22:13.33 | `Kevin | with ip route show table .... |
| 22:13.42 | `Kevin | its overriding your route somewhere |
| 22:13.50 | `Kevin | similar to what format_c is suggesting |
| 22:14.21 | `Kevin | look at those tables before connecting and after then diff it |
| 22:16.41 | sappel | can two routing tables be active at the same time? |
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| 22:17.35 | `Kevin | yes |
| 22:18.03 | sappel | and is it normal the default route it also visible in table 220? |
| 22:18.40 | `Kevin | depends on each persons setup, i do not have a table 220 |
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| 22:18.49 | `Kevin | local, main, default |
| 22:18.51 | sappel | the entries in table 220 come from the ipsec start script, I can verify that. but there is no entry adding the default route again. but still it show's up in table 220 |
| 22:19.22 | romeu | @somiaj |
| 22:19.29 | `Kevin | this is the split tunnel format_c was referring to |
| 22:19.46 | romeu | I've cksum and image file is ok, what should I do now? |
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| 22:20.39 | `Kevin | sappel: can you confirm leftsubnet,rightsubnet do not have 0.0.0.0/0 ? |
| 22:20.55 | `Kevin | im not sure what else would do that |
| 22:21.16 | sappel | they do have 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 22:21.23 | `Kevin | ok thats installing the default route |
| 22:21.32 | sappel | but those configs come from the provider |
| 22:21.38 | sappel | vpn provider |
| 22:22.18 | `Kevin | your provider is wanting your to your ALL traffic to them, is that what you want excluding local networks? |
| 22:22.32 | `Kevin | your provider is wanting your to route* ALL traffic to them, is that what you want excluding local networks? |
| 22:23.14 | sappel | no...that's not what I want :) |
| 22:23.21 | `Kevin | ok so |
| 22:23.32 | `Kevin | ;) |
| 22:23.47 | `Kevin | change those to match the subnets you want to route to/from |
| 22:23.53 | epicules | hi there |
| 22:24.00 | `Kevin | the provider will likely have to change it's side as well |
| 22:24.19 | epicules | anybody knows a free pptp vpn with p2p enabled? |
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| 22:25.21 | `Kevin | sappel: if there are multiple networks you can do (right/left)subnets to add additional https://linux.die.net/man/5/ipsec.conf |
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| 22:27.53 | sappel | `Kevin, thanks a lot, I hope I can get it up and running with this information. I'll look into it tomorrow :) |
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| 22:28.03 | `Kevin | yep goodluck |
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| 22:28.36 | romeu | I can't boot debian jessie from USB Stick got this error: erro: Failed to load ldlinux.c32 |
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| 22:38.05 | `Kevin | sappel: iirc if expected configured subnets/networks do not match on both sides the cxn will fail (something you may run into) |
| 22:38.29 | `Kevin | afk |
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| 22:40.04 | zykotick9 | romeu: i'm sure it was just a typo, but in your origional statement about creating the USB you had source/destination reversed "use cp /dev/sdb ~/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso" <- was that a typo? |
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| 22:49.08 | mintlx | Buenas noches |
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| 22:51.35 | romeu | please someone help, I cant find my problem anyware |
| 22:52.00 | hassoon | romeu: what is it |
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| 22:55.37 | somiaj | romeu: what was your error again? What is your hardware (could it be too new for the jessie kernel)? |
| 22:56.04 | romeu | I was run debian jessie i386, installed with USB |
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| 22:56.47 | romeu | romeu: but, my processor suports amd46, so I trying to install , but got erro: Failed to load ldlinux.c32 on boot |
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| 23:00.34 | somiaj | romeu: but the i386 netinstall didn't give you this error? |
| 23:02.05 | somiaj | romeu: what processor is on your system? |
| 23:02.19 | romeu | no, was ok, i386 works fine |
| 23:03.25 | romeu | my cpu is an Atom(amd64) |
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| 23:04.26 | hassoon | romeu: pastebin the output of lscpu |
| 23:05.12 | hassoon | romeu: if you don't have that you cant pastebint /proc/cpuinfo as well |
| 23:05.17 | hassoon | meh pastebin whatever youa want |
| 23:06.49 | azarus | Does this make sense guys? http://paste.debian.net/876978/ |
| 23:07.50 | somiaj | romeu: I'm not sure what the issue is. But you can install an amd64 kernel in your 32bit install, from there use debootstrap and manually install amd64, then make it bootable and reboot if the installer isn't working. |
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| 23:11.19 | zykotick9 | azarus: other than the missing network line, it kinda look like mine ;) |
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| 23:11.44 | azarus | zykotick9, What's the network line for? |
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| 23:12.25 | zykotick9 | azarus: ? dunno but mine is 192.168.1.0 |
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| 23:12.44 | azarus | Ah well. Thanks anyway. |
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| 23:14.20 | azarus | I just installed nextcloud on my debian server, so happy :) |
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| 23:34.41 | b6s3d | how do i set geographic area to Bulgaria with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata or likewise tools |
| 23:35.47 | b6s3d | found it |
| 23:35.47 | b6s3d | tzselect |
| 23:35.49 | b6s3d | 8 |
| 23:35.49 | b6s3d | 9 |
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| 23:40.36 | b6s3d | wtf can't reboot now |
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| 23:49.19 | b6s3d | how do i change time settings? |
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| 23:56.06 | klys | b6s3d, tzconfig, date, ntpdate <your.ntp.server> |
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| 23:56.29 | klys | alternatively dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 23:57.01 | ws2k3 | im having an issue with mdadm, my /dev/md2 is just disspeared after i rebooted my system. how can i try to recover it? |
| 23:57.13 | b6s3d | i got away with tzselect which is a awesome tool |
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