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| 01:17.47 | jak2000 | !dpkg sources.list |
| 01:17.48 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 01:30.05 | notadeveloper | how do i get a list of installed packages? |
| 01:31.20 | missmbob | notadeveloper: dpkg -l |grep ^i |
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| 01:34.26 | notadeveloper | thanks |
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| 01:35.00 | notadeveloper | this duck duck go search engine is really helpful for software experimenting and coding |
| 01:35.14 | notadeveloper | and IT troubleshooting |
| 01:35.16 | gry | :) |
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| 01:35.26 | notadeveloper | xS |
| 01:35.29 | notadeveloper | xD |
| 01:36.28 | notadeveloper | the ads too are very relevant to my searches |
| 01:36.41 | notadeveloper | and it utilizes all of the important super topics |
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| 01:36.48 | notadeveloper | super search topics |
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| 01:37.03 | notadeveloper | super as in super class |
| 01:37.09 | notadeveloper | parent search topic |
| 01:37.17 | notadeveloper | sorry im not a search engine guy |
| 01:37.27 | SpeakFreely | Hello, I'm trying to install my wireless driver for LinkSYS AC1200. I found there is a driver on github, however when I try to make it I get this error: http://pastebin.com/WuzZx0Zz . I am following the tutorial here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/584822/linksys-ac1200-wireless-ac-usb-adapter-install . I didn't install "linux-headers-generic" since I found no package by that name |
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| 01:40.13 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: the driver might already be in Debian but you simply need to install a firmware package. Is it PCI or USB? |
| 01:40.27 | jmcnaught | oh... says USB in the URL. |
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| 01:41.22 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: can you show use the result of "dmesg | grep firmware" ? (use http://paste.debian.net/ if more than a couple of lines) |
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| 01:42.35 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: it's empty. It seems I was able to make and install it by removing treating warnings as errors, but "modinfo 8812au | egrep -i 'versi|filen|003f'" returns an error saying 8812au not found |
| 01:43.08 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: well, doing it that way means you have to repeat this process every time there is a kernel upgrade |
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| 01:43.40 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: is there a way around that? |
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| 01:43.54 | jim | hi... does judd have a usb id database like it has a pciid one? |
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| 01:44.30 | jmcnaught | jim: not according to http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ |
| 01:44.32 | dvs | jim, have you even tried running a command |
| 01:45.06 | jim | I'm trying to help someone else who's running debian |
| 01:45.22 | jim | so no, I haven't run any commands |
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| 01:45.26 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: i found a model # in your paste, there's a debian wiki page about your family of cards: https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x?highlight=%28rtl8812%29 |
| 01:45.55 | jmcnaught | for most models you just need to install the "firmware-realtek" package from non-free. |
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| 01:47.12 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: oh i see, you're getting help in ##linux and here |
| 01:47.25 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell SpeakFreely about cross post |
| 01:47.29 | jim | jmcnaught, oh, so he has the driver already? |
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| 01:50.24 | jmcnaught | jim: i don't know, but generally compiling drivers from source is the wrong way on Debian |
| 01:51.09 | jim | so the right way being find the package with the driver in it |
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| 01:51.35 | SpeakFreely | Yeah sorry about the xpost. |
| 01:51.42 | jmcnaught | the driver will be in the kernel, usually it's the firmware that is missing |
| 01:51.50 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: please don't do that, it's rude. |
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| 01:52.18 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: so you're saying I should just try installing firmware-realtek? |
| 01:52.34 | jim | that might do it |
| 01:52.51 | SpeakFreely | Cool...will the fact that I installed this from source mess something up though since it isn't working? |
| 01:53.31 | jim | not sure what the install would have done |
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| 01:54.12 | jim | does your sources.list show it has non-free sources enabled? |
| 01:54.16 | SpeakFreely | wow that worked! Thanks so much :) |
| 01:54.19 | SpeakFreely | Yes I added non-free |
| 01:54.58 | jim | ok, so that means yes the driver is in the package that got installed with the kernel in it |
| 01:56.22 | SpeakFreely | So that also means I won't have problems with kernel upgrades right? |
| 01:56.22 | jim | SpeakFreely, so now, ifconfig -a should show your wireless interface, it might be called wlan0 |
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| 01:56.34 | SpeakFreely | Yup it's showing up! |
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| 01:56.49 | SpeakFreely | Gonna switch over real quick |
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| 01:56.52 | mdim | anyone familiar with the Debian Snapshot Archive? |
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| 01:57.51 | jim | mdim, it's a good idea if you ask the question you had about it, throw in lots of informative details |
| 01:58.03 | mdim | Why do Release files for Stretch expire? When running 'apt-get update' on an archive from there, I get this: E: Release file for http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20160731T221931Z/dists/stretch/InRelease is expired (invalid since 71d 4h 24min 45s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. |
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| 01:59.42 | jmcnaught | mdim: http://snapshot.debian.org/ shows you how to handle this in the paragraph that starts "To access snapshots of suites using Valid-Until..." |
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| 02:07.34 | SpeakFreely | So the wireless adapter was working, then it stopped.. |
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| 02:08.05 | somiaj | SpeakFreely: what happened between the time it worked and the time it stoped (did you suspend your system for isntance) |
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| 02:09.13 | SpeakFreely | Not sure if you saw my earlier messages, but basically I downloaded the source, made it and installed it. Didn't work, then someone here pointed out I should be able to just do apt-get install firmware-realtek. Did that and it worked. So then I did make uninstall on the original source I downloaded and then it broke. I restarted and tried making and installing again but now it still doesn't work |
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| 02:09.38 | SpeakFreely | jim and someone else here helped me...can't find his name though |
| 02:10.19 | roylaprattep | hi guys, trying to connect with bitkinex on debian server via sftp port 2222, got this error "no suitable cipher found" |
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| 02:10.57 | somiaj | SpeakFreely: if you did a make install that could be conflicting with debian stuff. Lets see what the issue is |
| 02:11.08 | somiaj | SpeakFreely: dmesg | grep firmware (do you see any errors about not able to load firmware)? |
| 02:11.46 | SpeakFreely | somiaj: nope |
| 02:11.50 | SpeakFreely | Comes up empty |
| 02:12.12 | somiaj | SpeakFreely: was your interface called wlan0? 'dmesg | grep wlan0' |
| 02:12.32 | SpeakFreely | somiaj: yes but that comes up blank since I restarted the system |
| 02:13.12 | jim | SpeakFreely, I think it was jmcnaught |
| 02:14.23 | jim | another way to find your interface would be ifconfig -a, and a newer way is ip link |
| 02:14.37 | SpeakFreely | jim: yeah but it doesn't show up at all now |
| 02:14.45 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: try unplugging the USB, plug it back in, then "dmesg | tail --lines=50 | nc termbin.com 9999" |
| 02:14.57 | jim | good idea |
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| 02:15.19 | pdo_fn14 | ,v judd unattended-upgrade |
| 02:15.20 | judd | No package named 'judd' was found in amd64. |
| 02:15.29 | pdo_fn14 | ,v unattended-upgrade |
| 02:15.30 | judd | No package named 'unattended-upgrade' was found in amd64. |
| 02:15.35 | pdo_fn14 | ,v unattended-upgrades |
| 02:15.36 | judd | Package: unattended-upgrades on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 0.79.5+wheezy2; wheezy: 0.79.5+wheezy2; jessie: 0.83.3.2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.83.3.2+deb8u1; stretch: 0.86.5+build1; sid: 0.92 |
| 02:15.47 | jmcnaught | pdo_fn14: you can also /msg judd :) |
| 02:15.52 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: jim http://termbin.com/sxl8 |
| 02:16.03 | pdo_fn14 | jmcnaught: oh thanks |
| 02:16.18 | SpeakFreely | oh what the now it works??? |
| 02:16.43 | pdo_fn14 | hello anyon, i had some error here on dmesg |
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| 02:17.15 | pdo_fn14 | [ 9.561619] usb 3-1.4: firmware: failed to load ar3k/AthrBT_0x11020000.dfu (-2) |
| 02:17.18 | pdo_fn14 | [ 9.561626] usb 3-1.4: Direct firmware load failed with error -2 |
| 02:17.35 | pdo_fn14 | any help?. |
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| 02:17.47 | jim | probably when you booted, it got to the part where it saw the thing inserted, and that happened at a time before it could deal for some reason... maybe not everytyhing was mounted yet, or something like that |
| 02:18.18 | SpeakFreely | maybe....going to try unplugging ethernet again brb |
| 02:18.24 | pdo_fn14 | jim: are you mention me?. |
| 02:18.41 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: your dmesg output is saying that the module used is rtl8812au but that doesn't seem to be included in the Debian kernel... 'find /lib/modules -name *rtl8812*' has no results for me |
| 02:19.26 | jim | so... the module isn't there after all? |
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| 02:20.00 | jmcnaught | or it's using the one that was compiled from source. what we don't know, is if a different module was getting used earlier before that from-source module was make installed |
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| 02:20.24 | SpeakFreely_ | jim, jmcnaught: seems it is working! Not sure if I should remove this folder though.. |
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| 02:21.11 | jmcnaught | pdo_fn14: the firmware that you need is in the firmware-atheros package in non-free |
| 02:21.14 | jim | what folder is that? and I would say hold off on removing until you know more |
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| 02:23.06 | sm00th | is that one fo those brand new pc's? |
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| 02:23.22 | SpeakFreely | jim jmcnaught: sorry the wifi went out...seems this only lasts for like 2 minutes |
| 02:23.41 | SpeakFreely | So not sure if it was flly installed correctly |
| 02:23.55 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: you can monitor the system journal with "journalctl -f" to watch for messages when it stops working |
| 02:24.28 | sm00th | nice |
| 02:24.45 | sm00th | system d world now. i love systemctl |
| 02:24.55 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: it would have been good to see the dmesg output from before you installed the module from source. It is possible that this device simply doesn't have a driver in the Linux kernel. If that is the case, I would really consider replacing it rather than dealing with all the hassle of compiling the driver each time you update the kernel |
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| 02:25.07 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: cool thanks, I'll have that running till it crashes again (or hopefully it doesn't!) |
| 02:25.20 | sm00th | how long is 4.4 kernel lasts for? |
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| 02:25.43 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: yeah, I'm not sure if I can return this though :\ got it over a month ago because I've only been using it on my windows install |
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| 02:26.44 | jmcnaught | SpeakFreely: it's a really good idea to verify linux compatibility before purchasing hardware. Most stuff is supported these days, but sometimes you get a turd if you don't check first |
| 02:26.48 | sm00th | oh roughly feb, 2018 |
| 02:27.13 | sm00th | but I guess everytime you patch it you have to reinstall the driver as well? |
| 02:27.53 | jmcnaught | if you compile a module from source, yes. DKMS is a solution for this problem, there are several Debian packages that use it |
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| 02:28.54 | sm00th | right |
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| 02:29.56 | sm00th | eh if you have a fast computer why not. surprised there is no script to do it. |
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| 02:30.20 | sm00th | i tried to compile nvidia driver on my debian and i failed at that lol |
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| 02:30.55 | sm00th | it fails to build modules |
| 02:31.04 | sm00th | the ones straight fomr their website. |
| 02:31.21 | SpreakFreely | jim, jmcnaught alright so it crashed again while I had the journal running, any preferred website for the output? (if you don't mind checking) |
| 02:31.26 | sm00th | i wanted to use a specific version to patch with grsec |
| 02:31.38 | sm00th | *to patch it to work with grsec |
| 02:31.45 | jmcnaught | sm00th: using the nvidia installer from their website is not recommended. Debian has those drivers packaged so you can do it in a way that doesn't break your system |
| 02:32.05 | sm00th | yes but see above i had no choice for what i wanted ^ |
| 02:32.13 | jmcnaught | using grsec and a proprietary gpu driver... sounds well thought out |
| 02:32.13 | sm00th | i needed a specific version |
| 02:32.25 | sm00th | jmcnaught, pax and spender both have patches for it |
| 02:32.35 | sm00th | but ya you right, if i'm gonna game online stick a fork in me anyways... |
| 02:32.42 | sm00th | its the world we live in |
| 02:32.44 | jmcnaught | SpreakFreely: https://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 02:33.14 | jmcnaught | sm00th: there are grsec kernels in jessie-backports, i haven't tried them though |
| 02:33.20 | SpreakFreely | jmcnaught: https://paste.debian.net/883097/ |
| 02:33.35 | sm00th | jmcnaught, no i'd rather build my own, doesn't help me though build the specific nvidia driver i need. |
| 02:33.39 | sm00th | only two versions is options. |
| 02:33.40 | SpreakFreely | also are you guys talking about installing nvidia drivers? Was about to do that next... |
| 02:33.48 | sm00th | pax has one and spender has one. |
| 02:33.56 | sm00th | for like some specific drivers. |
| 02:34.10 | sm00th | but it don't build the module on nvidia i have to use dkms or something only? |
| 02:35.11 | jmcnaught | SpreakFreely: line 91 it looks like it got unplugged? |
| 02:35.27 | SpreakFreely | jmcnaught: yes after it stopped working I unplugged it and plugged it back in |
| 02:36.15 | jmcnaught | SpreakFreely: line 32 is saying "ssid-not-found" |
| 02:36.31 | jmcnaught | 31 is link timed out |
| 02:36.35 | sm00th | hmm maybe it was a restricted module listed somewhere but no it builds with debian driver right? sorry for the noob questions. |
| 02:37.31 | sm00th | i'm not sure if i ever built a kernele without grsec and tried to install an nvidia driver. |
| 02:37.40 | SpreakFreely | jmcnaught: I think it dc'd around line 17 |
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| 02:37.45 | sm00th | but when using a grsec one and their patch it didn't work anyways... |
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| 02:38.19 | sm00th | so not sure what I'm doing wrong but gave up for same reaosns you said. gamign is like one of the most dangerous things you can do online so taking away restrictions to do it defeats the purpose in the first place. |
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| 02:39.52 | jmcnaught | SpreakFreely: i recommend researching some of the errors you find in there. maybe it's just a normal radio interference kind of problem. I think it's also worth trying from a Debian live cd to get some debug info without a tainted kernel |
| 02:39.53 | sm00th | oh shit Greg Korah Hartman got those programmign eyes go in every directions eyes haha |
| 02:40.45 | SpreakFreely | jmcnaught: would I be able to try installing just the firmware-realtek on a live cd? Or would that not work? |
| 02:42.19 | jmcnaught | SpreakFreely: yeah you can do that. the important part to look at will be the output of dmesg right after plugging the USB wifi device in... to see what kernel module (if any) is used |
| 02:43.10 | SpreakFreely | Cool thanks, going to go test it out |
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| 02:54.04 | Elronnd | my external cd/dvd drive came with "nero 8 essentials" -- is this at all useful? Is it anything but a fancy gui on top of dd/mount? |
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| 02:59.03 | SpreakFreely | jmcnaught: hey so I wasnt able to test it because at the end of the firmware install it said "update-initramfs is disabled ( live system is running on read-only media) |
| 03:00.17 | sm00th | Elronnd, i've used it on windows, not sure if it works on linux? |
| 03:01.23 | Elronnd | sm00th: it came with install scripts for lunix |
| 03:01.23 | sm00th | Elronnd, i use to like nerovision that comes with it |
| 03:01.32 | Elronnd | what's that do? |
| 03:01.41 | sm00th | convert avi's and stuff to dvd |
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| 03:01.52 | Elronnd | ah |
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| 03:02.23 | SpeakFreely | jmcnaught: hey so I wasnt able to test it because at the end of the firmware install it said "update-initramfs is disabled ( live system is running on read-only media) |
| 03:02.26 | sm00th | ya its one of the ones that always worked lol |
| 03:02.34 | Elronnd | is there a way to set up a cron job that runs after a random amount of time? |
| 03:02.36 | SpeakFreely | Sorry if you got my last message, not sure if this channel allows unregistered users to talk |
| 03:03.04 | Elronnd | like if I wanted it to run every between 2 and 3 hourss? |
| 03:03.12 | Elronnd | s/ss/s/g |
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| 03:05.19 | G0di | where i can get the cloack |
| 03:05.20 | G0di | ? |
| 03:05.21 | G0di | :D |
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| 03:07.37 | Elronnd | G0di: ask irc admins in #freenode |
| 03:08.02 | G0di | Elronnd thx |
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| 03:15.52 | sm00th | wow Steve Johnson from Unix definitely got those eyes lmao |
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| 04:10.17 | Elronnd | is there an eta for qtwebemgine5 in the repos? |
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| 04:34.59 | posi | Anyone wanna make a couple hundred bucks to package maintain the brave browser? |
| 04:36.20 | Elronnd | from whom? |
| 04:36.32 | posi | me |
| 04:37.07 | ryouma | this is a proposed package? |
| 04:37.21 | Elronnd | you would pay someone 100s of $ to pkg a browser |
| 04:37.38 | Elronnd | rather than doing it yourself, for free? |
| 04:37.50 | ryouma | he said maintain |
| 04:38.27 | ryouma | that presumably entails doing more than reducing the severity of bug reports and claiming that it is fixed by so doing |
| 04:38.38 | Elronnd | looks like they already maintain packags |
| 04:38.42 | jmcnaught | judd: bug wnpp brave |
| 04:38.43 | judd | Sorry, no wnpp bugs were found. |
| 04:38.46 | Elronnd | *packages |
| 04:39.06 | jmcnaught | !rfp |
| 04:39.07 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
| 04:39.12 | jmcnaught | posi: ^^ |
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| 04:40.28 | Colloguy | are package maintainers ideally the upstream developers of the software? |
| 04:40.44 | posi | *nod |
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| 04:54.07 | missmbob | i'm not even sure what brave does is legal |
| 04:54.18 | missmbob | swapping out ads on websites with their own |
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| 05:44.57 | Superuzir | Hi all! Can I somehow specify path to debian/ directory for debuild? Trying to create binary package for libzmq from sources |
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| 05:45.49 | missmbob | why? when debian has it |
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| 05:46.31 | Gaiseric | Everyone having problems with backported kernel/nVidia drivers and Optimus/Primus? After the updates OpenGL stuff stopped working with the discrete graphics card... |
| 05:46.50 | Gaiseric | s/Everyone/Anyone/ ...duh |
| 05:47.39 | Gaiseric | To repeat a more detailed (and unanswered) previous message from 12 hours ago: |
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| 05:47.51 | Gaiseric | Jessie here with backported kernel and nVidia drivers with bumblebee (versions 4.7.0 and 352.79 respectively). Latest updates broke OpenGL acceleration. Running "primusrun glxgears" gives a blank window and reports "X Error of failed request: GLXBadFBConfig" and "Minor opcode of failed request: 24 (X_GLXCreateNewContext)"... Anyone with similar setup/problems? |
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| 05:50.01 | Superuzir | There is a bunch of projects based on zmq, e.g libzyre, which is not present in debian repos. All of them has the same folder structure: packaging/debian/rules. Debuild cannot find them, of course |
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| 05:51.24 | missmbob | i just googled "libzyre linux" and google has no idea what you're talking about either |
| 05:51.56 | Superuzir | https://github.com/zeromq/zyre |
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| 05:53.37 | missmbob | so is it that you just didn't fulfill the build deps by installing the libzmq-dev package? |
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| 05:55.26 | missmbob | by *not* installing |
| 05:56.05 | Superuzir | No, it compilles and works perfectly from sources but I want to build all the latest versions of zeroMQ stuff into binary packages. It is much simpler to install package on many machines then rebuild every time |
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| 05:56.52 | Superuzir | But cannot figure out, if there is common way to build .deb from project with such structure |
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| 05:59.27 | missmbob | debian isn't meant for latest of much of anything, to be honest. |
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| 06:01.57 | stoned | Where can I get the source for paste.debian.net? |
| 06:02.07 | stoned | Is it also available at all? |
| 06:02.28 | stoned | I'd like to fork/modify it for personal use |
| 06:03.11 | Elronnd | how is it that certain packages make it into wheezy, jessie, and sid, but not stretch? |
| 06:03.27 | Elronnd | it gets very frustrating |
| 06:03.29 | jmcnaught | stoned: http://paste.debian.net/paste.pl?show_template=about |
| 06:03.35 | stoned | !why is someting not in testing |
| 06:03.36 | dpkg | someting is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=someting |
| 06:03.44 | stoned | well. |
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| 06:04.30 | missmbob | Elronnd: because shit happens. stretch isn't really meant to be usable. if there's a serious problem the package just gets pulled sometimes while it takes maybe a week for the new upload from sid to get to testing |
| 06:04.35 | jmcnaught | Elronnd: during the testing phase of a release packages will be removed if they have release critical bugs. |
| 06:04.57 | Elronnd | then why are they in jessie? |
| 06:05.11 | missmbob | Elronnd: because they didn't have those errors in jessie |
| 06:05.43 | jmcnaught | the testing process of jessie did not happen at the same time as the testing phase for stretch, obviously |
| 06:05.54 | Elronnd | yeah |
| 06:06.18 | Elronnd | none of the distros are |
| 06:06.30 | Elronnd | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.47 | missmbob | life's a bitch. you get used to it |
| 06:07.01 | Elronnd | gazes longingly at arch lunix and freebsd |
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| 06:07.56 | missmbob | rolling things have their uses (i guess). |
| 06:08.08 | missmbob | i hate them. i can't use them for work. |
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| 06:09.24 | jmcnaught | Elronnd: with Debian you get a rock solid release that is well tested and has tens of thousands of packages. Every couple of years there's a new major version. This is pretty valuable to a lot of people who value their time and sanity, and don't want play keep-up all the time. |
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| 06:10.17 | jmcnaught | being able to know that you can install security upgrades without risking that your software will starting working differently or need to be reconfigured is a big deal |
| 06:10.30 | Elronnd | sure |
| 06:10.48 | missmbob | it's more than a big deal. it's a "you'll get fired if you do this shit" deal |
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| 06:23.00 | missmbob | jmcnaught: you're a gnome user from what i remember, correct? do you use evolution as well? |
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| 06:24.37 | missmbob | jmcnaught: i usually just use xfce apps but i was giving evolution a look and i keep getting: Failed to login to the server: Daily Limit for Unauthenticated Use Exceeded. Continued use requires signup. that's for a gmail account |
| 06:25.12 | missmbob | it works often during the early hours of the day but get into evening and no. error. |
| 06:25.56 | missmbob | jmcnaught: all of that grap is for gnome-online-accounts (calendar) |
| 06:26.19 | jmcnaught | missmbob: i use icedove, and not with gmail mostly. i was briefly using a gmail account in icedove recently, and it wanted to use oauth2 as authenticaiton method, which i'd never seen before. does evolution have that option? |
| 06:27.32 | jmcnaught | it seems that it does not |
| 06:27.36 | missmbob | jmcnaught: hrm. i dont think so. never seen anything. just wondering if you had any ideas. |
| 06:29.49 | jmcnaught | missmbob: i see an option for "listen for server change notifications". is that IMAP IDLE? maybe that would cause fewer logins |
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| 06:32.12 | jmcnaught | actually it looks like evolution enables IDLE support by setting server type to IMAP+, so i don't know what that listen setting is about |
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| 06:48.09 | missmbob | jmcnaught: i think it's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1373737 (couldn't find a debian bug) |
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| 06:53.41 | jmcnaught | missmbob: is the calendar part is using webdav instead of imap? if the linked git commit fixes the problem, hopefully it makes it into stretch |
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| 06:54.07 | missmbob | jmcnaught: yeah, it's just the calendar. email never stops working. |
| 06:55.05 | missmbob | jmcnaught: guess i'll just file a debian bug and see what the maintainer thinks. |
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| 06:57.52 | jmcnaught | missmbob: yeah. i use iceowl/lightning as a calendar, and do without the gnome-shell calendar integration |
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| 06:59.33 | foetus | after upgrade from wheezy to jessie typing german umlauts in terminal not working anymore. if i do /bin/systemctl reload console-setup (after login) it works. locale is de_DE@euro. how can i solve this issue? |
| 07:00.23 | missmbob | did you try dpkg-reconfigure locales ? not sure if that'd do it |
| 07:00.38 | foetus | yes, i did. |
| 07:00.59 | missmbob | did you try asking the german channel? they'd probably know a lot better |
| 07:01.03 | missmbob | !de |
| 07:01.03 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 07:01.49 | foetus | ok. i will try it there. thanks anyway.. |
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| 07:05.57 | jmcnaught | fooctrl: what is the status of that console-setup unit? |
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| 07:39.28 | wfq | all good morning |
| 07:40.37 | wfq | I am trying to use the rescue mode of my usb netinstall but when I am presented with the existing partition I get an error saying that a shell cannot be booted on any of the existing partition. |
| 07:41.12 | wfq | Then I have the option of using the virtual environment one. Does it mean that my OS is definitely gone? Is there anything I can do to rescue it? |
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| 07:43.03 | wfq | I don't know what other options are available for me to use |
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| 07:51.29 | missmbob | wfq: which iso? |
| 07:52.07 | wfq | missmbob, I am using the latest Debian stable |
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| 07:52.39 | wfq | Just downloaded a couple of days ago and made a bootable usb with amd64-type |
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| 07:52.48 | wfq | am running fsck now |
| 07:52.56 | missmbob | wfq: i want the full iso name. and you're using which debian existing version? does it have encrypted partitions? |
| 07:52.59 | wfq | it found superblock needs recovery |
| 07:54.00 | wfq | missmbob, I have no idea what version of Debian I was using and I have no idea right now what the name of the latest iso that I downloaded is. No encrypted partitions at all |
| 07:54.30 | missmbob | wfq: without you knowing i'm afraid no one can help. |
| 07:54.46 | wfq | that's ok. cheers |
| 07:55.09 | missmbob | wfq: how's you make that usb, btw? |
| 07:55.31 | wfq | dd |
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| 07:55.49 | missmbob | did you sync? |
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| 07:56.27 | missmbob | why dd, when the installer guide says cp+sync? |
| 07:57.15 | wfq | yes I did sync. |
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| 07:57.35 | wfq | missmbob, ok. Why is the way I did relevant if the usb actually works spot on |
| 07:57.57 | missmbob | wfq: a lot. debian's hybrid iso's act weird |
| 07:58.02 | missmbob | !unetbootin |
| 07:58.02 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 07:58.05 | missmbob | !rufus |
| 07:58.06 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 07:58.09 | missmbob | just examples |
| 07:58.20 | wfq | I dn't use unetbootin at all |
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| 08:01.06 | missmbob | wfq: you need to find out which iso. you're not supposed to use stretch iso's right now |
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| 08:04.35 | wfq | missmbob, ok. debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 08:05.58 | missmbob | wfq: you're not using secure boot? |
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| 08:06.34 | wfq | you mean not forcing the system to use uefi boot? |
| 08:06.52 | missmbob | no. they're different |
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| 08:07.06 | tx | Secure boot is a "layer on top" of UEFI boot. |
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| 08:07.21 | tx | It can usually be switched on or off in the BIOS |
| 08:07.38 | missmbob | and debian doesn't support even though it supports basic eufi |
| 08:07.49 | missmbob | spelled correctly |
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| 08:08.31 | tx | Secure Boot is a very Microsoft thing. |
| 08:08.38 | tx | Doesn't shock me. |
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| 08:08.43 | wfq | No, I am not using such thing. |
| 08:08.54 | missmbob | most computers come with it on |
| 08:09.04 | missmbob | so if you didn't know what it was i don't know you knew to turn it off |
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| 08:11.50 | wfq | managed to bring back my Debian partition however I end up in emergency mode |
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| 08:12.47 | missmbob | wfq: yet you cant tell us which debian. who's the real admin of the box? |
| 08:13.08 | wfq | me |
| 08:13.27 | missmbob | 07:54 < wfq> missmbob, I have no idea what version of Debian I was using |
| 08:13.36 | missmbob | if it was you...that's...horrible |
| 08:13.38 | tx | do this: "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 08:13.40 | wfq | I am using Jessie 8.0 |
| 08:13.55 | missmbob | that's not what you said. either time. |
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| 08:26.24 | wfq | just run systemctl default again and waiting for ages |
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| 08:50.35 | wfq | missmbob, managed to recover the data I wanted and now will reinstall everything again. Thanks for your help :) |
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| 08:51.48 | aricz | Hi, I have installed qt5-default from Jessy.. is it an easy way to add testing and/or unstable, then upgrade qt5-default? |
| 08:51.56 | aricz | Jessy/Jessie .. whops |
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| 08:52.25 | aricz | I've added testing and unstable to sources.list |
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| 08:55.35 | aricz | Ok, backports.. ty |
| 08:56.28 | babilen | aricz: Do *not* mix stable with testing or unstable. Backports are the way to go. |
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| 08:58.20 | Drzacek | testing is the way to go! |
| 08:58.39 | babilen | Absolutely not! |
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| 08:59.01 | babilen | I wouldn't want to run production boxes on testing or unstable |
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| 08:59.42 | babilen | (and mixing stable with testing or unstable will achieve exactly that) |
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| 09:16.48 | aricz | backports should have the packages from testing/unstable right? |
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| 09:17.45 | themill | s/should/can/ |
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| 09:17.59 | Gaiseric | aricz: not really |
| 09:18.01 | aricz | qt5-default on stable is 5.3.2 .. test/unstable is 5.6.1 .. I added backports to sources.list .. updated.. but when I try to install qt5-default from backports, it tells me the version I'm on is already the newest |
| 09:18.15 | aricz | aha |
| 09:18.24 | az_ | how compare kernel and kernel modules with that what is in repo for forensics? |
| 09:18.46 | az_ | for check if there is something modified in kernel/modules that is other in respository |
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| 09:26.09 | az_ | something like debsums but for kernel |
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| 09:27.32 | boxrick1_ | Good morning peops! I am looking for a way of setting a pre-seed to automatically do RAID 1 each time and always overwrite the disk without any confirmation. Can anyone assist with this? |
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| 09:45.54 | DeaDSouL_ | hi, I have a portable HDD. And I want to be ablt to natively browse its content from Linux/Windows/MacOSX. So, which filesystem I should format it as? |
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| 09:51.12 | nkuttler | DeaDSouL_: vfat |
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| 09:52.00 | babilen | OSX still doesn't handle NTFS? |
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| 10:00.17 | sep | upgraded a simple webserver with apache from deb7 to deb8, and now suddenly the site with a explisit virtualhost name is not used. i get the default page instead. if i disable the default page, the virtualhost one shows up. if i enable default again, the default is used. there is no ServerName in default site. anyone have a clue to why the virtualhost is not taken before default when both are enabled ? |
| 10:02.30 | hramrach | babilen: it does for me |
| 10:03.39 | babilen | hramrach: Haven't used it in a while, but would have assumed that this isn't much of a problem nowadays. Either way, not a great topic for #debian |
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| 10:14.43 | nkuttler | sep: iirc site files have to end in .conf now |
| 10:15.25 | nkuttler | sep: check the release notes if in doubt |
| 10:15.44 | sep | nkuttler, true, but if that is not correct the site file does not work at all. |
| 10:16.25 | nkuttler | ah, never mind |
| 10:16.52 | sep | when i look at apachectl -S i can see that the default file is listed as a namevirtualserver with the same name as the virtualhost |
| 10:17.08 | sep | but the config does not have any mention of a ServerName or that name at all |
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| 10:18.00 | sep | so... i added ServerName this.is.just.wrong. |
| 10:18.08 | sep | and now it works :P |
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| 10:18.39 | sep | perhaps the default config picks the FQDN of the server if there is no ServerName defined. and that just happens to be the name of the virtualhost |
| 10:18.58 | sep | nkuttler, thanks for the suggestions |
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| 10:32.59 | veek | has anyone used firejail |
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| 10:33.46 | veek | i want to su - veek and then run it |
| 10:34.03 | veek | and then run firefox in that |
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| 10:36.39 | veek | oosu - veek -c "firejail /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin" did the trick |
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| 10:47.30 | veek | i'm doing su - veek -c "firejail --debug --private=/home/veek/junk /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin" - how is my .mozilla profile being loaded? |
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| 10:56.23 | mrtrump | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=swi-prolog what command gets me 7.3 swi prolog? |
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| 10:59.41 | hramrach | mrtrump: none. swi-prolog is at 7.2.3 in unstable |
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| 11:02.06 | hramrach | but if 7.2.3 is good enough and you are not running testing see at package backporting |
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| 11:12.29 | du5tball | when i try "hostnamectl set-hostname <new hostname>", i get "Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory" as a response. any clues as to why? |
| 11:12.35 | du5tball | or rather, how to fix it? |
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| 11:13.32 | du5tball | fun. "hostnamectl status" tells me the same |
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| 11:14.38 | du5tball | i.. there... why is there no dbus installed? well. issue found |
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| 11:15.55 | du5tball | is dbus a default package? |
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| 11:16.35 | evilman_work | du5tball: what version of debian do you use? |
| 11:16.41 | du5tball | 8.5 |
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| 11:17.10 | mrtrump | anyone know howto mount openbsd disk in debian? |
| 11:18.38 | evilman_work | du5tball: check 'systemctl status dbus.socket' and 'systemctl status dbus.service' |
| 11:19.02 | du5tball | evilman_work: what does that have to do with "is dbus a default package?" |
| 11:20.07 | evilman_work | du5tball: dbus is required part of systemd. |
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| 11:20.19 | du5tball | which is why i'm asking |
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| 11:21.08 | du5tball | for all i know, it SHOULD be in the base packages, yet on that machine, it wasn't installed. this can have several causes, and knowing if this actually _is_ a base package in debian helps me looking further into this on our end |
| 11:21.29 | du5tball | evilman_work: which begs the question: why can't you answer a simple "yes" or "no" question with one of those words? |
| 11:22.00 | du5tball | i'm sorry, that was uncalled for. |
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| 11:28.01 | petn-randall | du5tball: systemd "Recommends: dbus", so you chose to not installed the recommended packages. There is no strong dependency since you can run systemd without dbus, albeit with some limitations. |
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| 11:30.56 | mrtrump | nerds! |
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| 11:32.03 | petn-randall | du5tball: That's pretty much the definition of the "Recommends:" dependency. It works without, so no crashes or similar, but it should be installed on a default system, and only removed in special cases. |
| 11:32.35 | petn-randall | mrtrump: You can only mount filesystems, not disks. Are you running Kali? |
| 11:32.48 | humbot | i'm getting ping failures on some sites but not others |
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| 11:33.27 | du5tball | petn-randall: okay, thanks. that's all i need to know |
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| 11:35.06 | petn-randall | humbot: Some servers just don't respond to pings. |
| 11:35.37 | humbot | they aren't responding to firefox either though |
| 11:35.44 | humbot | downforeveryoneorjustme.com is down for me :| isup.me is also down, but downforme.org is up |
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| 11:36.16 | petn-randall | humbot: Looks like you internet uplink is unreliable. |
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| 11:37.14 | humbot | you mean my isp or carrier ? |
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| 11:41.56 | Shadur | petn-randall: Doesn't bsd use a different partitioning scheme? Although IIRC linux supports that by default. |
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| 11:54.28 | Iridos | du5tball, the naming "default" packages is already not good because it has no fixed meaning in context. There are "Essential:" files that have to be installed on every system but there are very very few of those. You can see them with: aptitude search ~E |
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| 11:58.47 | anexit | How can I gen a random folder |
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| 11:59.16 | OpenTokix | mkdir 4, 4 was decided by a fair die roll |
| 12:00.02 | teraflops | anexit: generate a random whatever and pipe it to mkdir? |
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| 12:00.43 | anexit | yeah |
| 12:00.59 | anexit | I was doing md5 strings manually.. it's becoming a pain |
| 12:01.00 | teraflops | or mktemp |
| 12:01.36 | OpenTokix | anexit: uuidgen |mkdir |
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| 12:01.44 | teraflops | them give a try to mktemp |
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| 12:02.39 | OpenTokix | anexit: sorry mkdir `uuidgen` |
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| 12:03.27 | anexit | Thanks OpenTokix |
| 12:03.30 | themill | mktemp -d is the right answer |
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| 12:08.13 | stoned | Good morning |
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| 12:40.36 | jak2000 | my debian start in graphical mode |
| 12:40.41 | jak2000 | how to start in text mode? |
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| 12:42.05 | themill | !nodm |
| 12:42.05 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
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| 12:42.47 | jak2000 | ok |
| 12:42.53 | jak2000 | thx |
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| 12:44.17 | jak2000 | !dpkg sources.list |
| 12:44.18 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 12:44.54 | Iridos | you can do /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 12:45.04 | jak2000 | ok thanks |
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| 13:06.30 | annoymouse4210 | if package is in both backports repo and official debian repo, what package has priority over other? |
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| 13:07.44 | arturo_ | annoymouse4210: both are official repos. It depends of your apt configuration. By default, the non-backports repository |
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| 13:07.55 | annoymouse4210 | arturo_ thx! |
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| 13:10.43 | annoymouse4210 | How can I know a package supports how many platforms? (considering all dependent package) |
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| 13:15.09 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 13:16.32 | smile123 | hello |
| 13:16.34 | smile123 | i have problem connecting in internet with tp-link wn8200nd, how can i fix this problem? |
| 13:16.36 | smile123 | is rtl8192cu |
| 13:16.55 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me how to get 3d accl for a fresh install of debian 8.6 net install i've chosen gdm3 and gnome for my desktop and the GUI does not load probably becausei have no 3d acceleration which vga driver should i install for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 1902 (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 1902 |
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| 13:17.38 | Agiofws | is there any channel i can join? |
| 13:17.44 | pingfloyd | jak2000: an easier way is "sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target" the default is graphical.target |
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| 13:20.40 | TG_ | Hello everyone. I want to install a Debian-based Web server, but I want sysvinit-core, and also I am unsure which release I should use (stable, testing, or unstable). Should I just use Jessie and get it over with? |
| 13:21.08 | pingfloyd | TG_: you can use sysvinit in jessie if you want |
| 13:21.08 | Agiofws | anyone? |
| 13:21.34 | TG_ | It's for a small, family-based Web server, and I guess there's nothing wrong with Jessie. Okay, thanks pingfloyd (good nickname). |
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| 13:21.45 | pingfloyd | TG_: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd |
| 13:22.15 | TG_ | excellent, thank you. |
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| 13:22.51 | themill | or just use systemd. You'll be surprised that it won't actually eat your firstborn during the night. |
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| 13:25.17 | bezaban | looks around for his firstborn |
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| 13:42.31 | bolt | themill: it might though |
| 13:43.19 | bolt | keeping a safe distance between defenceless firstborns and a keyboard with a shell on it is a good idea anyway |
| 13:44.21 | greycat | In my experience, toddlers really like hitting the keyboard and watching symbols appear on the Linux text console. |
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| 13:44.33 | bolt | that's the problem :) |
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| 13:44.56 | TG_ | greycat, seriously? that could be a great start |
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| 13:45.40 | greycat | Yeah, seriously. If you're at the login prompt it's not *too* dangerous, but they quickly get the system into a nonresponsive state (scroll lock, etc.). |
| 13:46.15 | petn-randall | or ctrl+s |
| 13:46.29 | petn-randall | No wait, ctrl shift s? |
| 13:47.04 | greycat | Ctrl-s works to "freeze" the terminal if you're logged in, in canonical mode, but I'm not sure about getty/login. |
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| 13:47.33 | greycat | There are all kinds of weird things a toddler can do that I don't know how to block. |
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| 13:50.42 | TG_ | well, block ctrl-alt-delete |
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| 13:50.52 | greycat | *nod* |
| 13:51.00 | greycat | And... under sysvinit I knew how to do that. |
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| 13:51.27 | jelly | let me see if it's disabled by default on systemd :-) |
| 13:51.45 | greycat | c-a-d is enabled by default in jessie/systemd |
| 13:52.54 | TG_ | you can create for them their own account and let them log in, ctrl+q unfreezes ctrl+s in case you didn't know, and sysrq comes mostly disabled by default nowadays |
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| 13:53.48 | codfection | kali repos work fine with debian without breaking it? |
| 13:53.54 | greycat | Absolutely not. |
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| 13:54.14 | tx | You wouldn't breed a horse with an elephant. |
| 13:54.28 | greycat | Well, *I* wouldn't. I can't say what a Kali user might try. |
| 13:54.29 | tx | Don't let your debian install be the child of a two differing species. |
| 13:54.47 | pingfloyd | I remap ^s to do forward i-search |
| 13:55.05 | tx | pingfloyd: well done. |
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| 13:55.23 | pingfloyd | don't really need flow control these days |
| 13:55.23 | greycat | 'stty -ixon' should also disable XON/XOFF flow control |
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| 13:59.03 | codfection | I hate vms |
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| 14:01.13 | TG_ | I use flow control to page up in console. when there's new output it stops it from continually scrolling back down |
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| 14:05.08 | sberla | hi! |
| 14:05.20 | eumel | hi sberla |
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| 14:05.51 | sberla | I have to repair a file system but I can not! |
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| 14:06.07 | sberla | root@arkosoftpbx:~# fsck -fy /dev/mmcblk0p2 |
| 14:06.07 | sberla | fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 |
| 14:06.07 | sberla | fsck: fsck.ext4: not found |
| 14:06.07 | sberla | fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.ext4 for /dev/mmcblk0p2 |
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| 14:06.12 | bolt | ... |
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| 14:06.17 | sberla | my problem |
| 14:06.59 | greycat | sberla: what version of Debian? |
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| 14:07.21 | eumel | do you have e2fsprogs installed? |
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| 14:07.50 | greycat | It's "priority: required" so I would certainly hope so. |
| 14:08.05 | sberla | Linux version 3.6.11+ (dc4@dc4-arm-01) (gcc version 4.7.2 20120731 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1+bzr2458 - Linaro GCC 2012.08) ) #358 PREEMPT Tue Jan 15 00:45:33 GMT 2013 |
| 14:08.15 | tx | 2013 |
| 14:08.18 | tx | nice and stale, yummo. |
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| 14:08.44 | greycat | I don't know what command you ran, but none of that looks like a Debian system. |
| 14:08.58 | tx | sberla: can you do " cat /etc/debian_version " |
| 14:09.03 | sberla | ok install e2fsprogs |
| 14:09.13 | sberla | 7.11 |
| 14:09.23 | sberla | install e2fsprogs |
| 14:09.24 | tx | Wheezy. ;) |
| 14:09.40 | sberla | e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting. |
| 14:09.45 | greycat | What's a "crosstool-NG linaro"? |
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| 14:10.04 | bolt | cross compiler? |
| 14:10.15 | jelly | greycat: "this kernel was built with Linaro arm toolchain" |
| 14:10.34 | greycat | Is that how the Debian arm binary kernel images are normally built? |
| 14:10.39 | tx | no |
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| 14:10.46 | tx | But the system is debian. |
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| 14:10.55 | greycat | Or he says it is. |
| 14:10.57 | tx | The kernel was just compiled in a particular way, perhaps for specific device support. |
| 14:11.17 | jelly | no, but using a very custom kernel is not unusual on arm, mips and similar embedded devices |
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| 14:11.26 | jelly | it might still be debian |
| 14:11.45 | jelly | sberla: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say |
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| 14:12.31 | eumel | --print-architecture Print dpkg architecture. |
| 14:12.38 | tx | Well done. |
| 14:12.45 | eumel | thanks |
| 14:13.23 | jelly | !slap eumel |
| 14:13.24 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across eumel's face |
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| 14:13.29 | greycat | eumel: jelly was not asking what the command *means*. He was asking sberla to run it. |
| 14:13.55 | jelly | greycat: eumel is not that dumb |
| 14:13.59 | sberla | or terminated |
| 14:14.01 | sberla | tnk! |
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| 14:14.12 | tx | or terminated sure is a strange arch. |
| 14:14.15 | tx | Must be one of the new fancy ones. |
| 14:14.38 | TG_ | if it's terminated it might be an old one, like alpha :) |
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| 14:14.42 | eumel | ah i misunderstood that |
| 14:14.51 | jelly | sberla: "dpkg --print-architecture" output says just "or terminated" ? Are you sure? |
| 14:14.57 | jelly | nothing more, nothing less? |
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| 14:19.40 | jelly | the user was terminated, apparently |
| 14:19.56 | tx | The swirl consumed him. |
| 14:20.02 | tx | In all of its red goodness. |
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| 14:38.18 | mrtrump | vot trump! |
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| 14:44.03 | eumel | really? |
| 14:46.13 | babilen | What? |
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| 14:47.41 | jelly | if you have to comment on spam, do it in #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:47.52 | babilen | Or in ##comment-on-spam |
| 14:48.16 | eumel | sry |
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| 14:51.06 | jelly | for the record: Ctrl-Alt-Delete is enabled by default on the console in jessie w/ systemd |
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| 14:51.20 | ghormoon | can I somehow create new (empty) keytab for kinit (to be able to log in to remote AD)? I can't google up relevant solution and empty file does not work :) |
| 14:51.22 | greycat | I already told you that. ;-) |
| 14:51.27 | greycat | (I use it all the time.) |
| 14:51.31 | jelly | I may have missed it. |
| 14:51.37 | jelly | because, well... |
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| 15:05.12 | Overseer | Hello all. Not sure where to ask this but, I use sendmail for my SMTP server....is it possible to get some sort of daily digest of sent mail? Mail coming from my server has started being refused by Outlook citing junk....but outside of opinions, it shouldnt be. |
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| 15:06.05 | greycat | There should be logs. But what you really need is to know why the Outlook server is rejecting your mail. Could be that you're on a blacklist of some kind. |
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| 15:07.33 | Overseer | greycat: As usual they won't tell me, though I am "conditionally mitigated", but it sounds like next strike I'm out, sooo.... |
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| 15:08.10 | jelly | Overseer: your reputation usually goes down when your server actually emits spam |
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| 15:08.37 | fguide | Overseer: you can check your SMTP ip address for blacklisting |
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| 15:08.48 | jelly | dunno any log analyzers for Sendmail, stopped using it a while ago |
| 15:09.26 | jelly | Overseer: does google show any results for "sendmail log analyzer" ? |
| 15:09.33 | Overseer | jelly: It sounds like outlook users are marking emails as Junk, but unless its a malicious attempt to ruin my small community, I cannot think of any actual spam coming from me. |
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| 15:10.42 | fguide | Overseer: what kind of link you have? Normally, dynamic home ISP IP's are blacklisted because some other people already used it to send... spam |
| 15:10.42 | jelly | Overseer: if by outlook you mean outlook.com, Microsoft's free and cloud mail services, they have some sort of feedback loop |
| 15:10.42 | thadtheman | Ok I have a short program which I want to use associative arrays in. The associative array will map strings to "structs" ( aggregate datatypes ). Is it better to use bash or ruby? If not for the AA and the structs I would use ruby, but ... |
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| 15:11.23 | fguide | Overseer: so if you are using a dynamic IP address, that might be it, other than that, call your ISP if your IP is static and if it's actually blacklisted |
| 15:11.24 | greycat | Bash has no struct. |
| 15:11.46 | greycat | The closest bash equivalent would be to have multiple associative arrays that share indices. |
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| 15:12.03 | Overseer | fguide: It's a VPS, so should be a dedicated IP. And I've run the IP though like MXToolbox and no blacklist hits. |
| 15:12.53 | Overseer | All I can think of is some kids angry the game isnt out yet trying to get back at me, but that's why I was looking to catch a copy of all outgoing mail and make sure something wasn't sneaking by. |
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| 15:13.24 | greycat | Copies of the email are not generally stored. Just log entries showing the sender and the recipient and possibly a byte count. |
| 15:14.08 | Overseer | Of course, outlook.com has from the beginning been the only site to automatically send my mail to junk, so maybe that counts. Not sure what more I could do except as my VPS host to go up the chain and sell me ownership of the IP, put my name on it. |
| 15:14.20 | jelly | you can do a lot of things. |
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| 15:14.52 | jelly | one of them is use a reputable ESP to send your stuff, instead of a self-hosted solution |
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| 15:15.16 | Overseer | Speaking of I tried the outlook feedback loop, trouble is I would need to get my ISP to answer the confirmation email since it will only send the email to them. |
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| 15:15.30 | `Kevin | Overseer: do you have a proper SPF record + RDNS/PTR + DKIM setup? |
| 15:15.35 | jelly | Overseer: do you have your own domain and MX? |
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| 15:16.34 | Overseer | I have the SPF, Reverse DNS on the IP is filled out with the IP owner(quadranet), not me, DKIM I am looking into. |
| 15:16.59 | jelly | do you have a static ip assignment at all |
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| 15:17.17 | Overseer | jelly: I have my own domain, MX record set up for it...though I guess an issue could be that I also send mail to myself and family as a second domain. |
| 15:17.20 | `Kevin | Overseer: you confirmed RDNS matches what your MTA is identifying itself as? |
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| 15:18.39 | `Kevin | if you have all the basics covered back to jelly's point the reason ESPs exist is because of IPs with reputation which is to an extent BS but is what it is |
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| 15:19.24 | Overseer | Kevin That's a fun one, because I was told previously to set my MTA to the domain I was sending, because the RDNS is the IP Owner, and has no valid FDNS. |
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| 15:20.10 | missmbob | Overseer: the rdns can only be set by the ip owner - so you need to contact them. they'll do it. i did it to my linode vps |
| 15:20.11 | Overseer | Is there such a thing as a free ESP? :P Hate to be cheap but that's the life. |
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| 15:20.44 | `Kevin | Overseer: do you manage the domain? |
| 15:21.00 | `Kevin | Overseer: if so you can just make an A record that is identical to the PTR/RDNS |
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| 15:21.40 | `Kevin | but yes x2 @ missmbob |
| 15:22.43 | `Kevin | Overseer: when your server send mail it should be .... EHLO blah.domain.tld |
| 15:22.43 | Overseer | Kevin I own my domain but the IP rDNS is something like 123.static.quadranet.com, which I do not own...I will prod my host again to change it to my domain...I thought I already went through this.. |
| 15:22.52 | `Kevin | the RDNS should match that |
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| 15:23.06 | `Kevin | A rcords should exist for blah.domain.tkd as well |
| 15:23.09 | `Kevin | records* |
| 15:23.21 | `Kevin | right |
| 15:23.29 | Overseer | It resolves to localhost. |
| 15:23.45 | `Kevin | Overseer: as missmbob said contact quadranet and tell them to make it something else .. blah.yourdomain.com and change your MTAs hostname to match |
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| 15:24.12 | Overseer | OK, I will get on that (and learning about DKIM) |
| 15:24.21 | qqx | Or they should at least add an A record for the PTR. |
| 15:24.41 | qqx | If for some reason they're unwilling to setup RDNS pointing to your domain. |
| 15:24.56 | `Kevin | qqx: yep its just cleaner to update PTR to match the server's settings ;) |
| 15:24.58 | `Kevin | but both ways will work |
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| 15:25.57 | `Kevin | Overseer: i would do that before sending much more mail... IP reputation could be going down for certain destinations |
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| 15:26.30 | shodan` | is there any reason why sid-proposed-updates doesn't work? |
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| 15:26.39 | missmbob | shodan`: because it makes no sense |
| 15:26.39 | shodan` | or am I just doing something wrong? |
| 15:26.49 | missmbob | !tell shodan` about debian-next |
| 15:26.52 | qqx | shodan`: Updates to sid don't get proposed, they just happen |
| 15:26.57 | Overseer | And just to be clear, it is acceptable to send mail for gamename.com while identifying as companyname.com as long as the SPF for gamename.com declares companyname.com? |
| 15:27.11 | Hello71 | spf doesn't have domains |
| 15:27.22 | shodan` | missmbob: so `deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ sid-proposed-updates main contrib non-free` is invalid? |
| 15:27.32 | jelly | shodan`: there is no such thing, sid is where the latest packages go. |
| 15:27.35 | missmbob | shodan`: yes. |
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| 15:28.29 | shodan` | is there a reason why the php7 package is downgraded to php 7.0.12-1 instead of 7.8 (what is was before I ran upgrade for the first time in a month or so) |
| 15:28.46 | shodan` | or am I again doing something silly |
| 15:28.50 | missmbob | shodan`: please see what the bot said about debian-next |
| 15:28.52 | jelly | shodan`: 7.8? |
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| 15:29.25 | greycat | what is downgrade |
| 15:29.32 | shodan` | oh wait I'm just misreading it |
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| 15:29.54 | shodan` | jelly: yeah, no sleep for 24+ hours takes a toll I guess, it used to be 7.0.8 now it's 7.0.12 so it's correct |
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| 15:29.59 | jelly | shodan`: read /msg dpkg ssb, and provide all the info to the right channel (#debian-next, NOT on freenode) |
| 15:30.19 | jelly | shodan`: don't sysadmin while drunk. Or sleep deprived. |
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| 15:30.28 | jelly | same thing, basically |
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| 15:30.57 | petn-randall | One of them is more fun, though. |
| 15:30.58 | shodan` | I haven't broken anything yet and the day is almost over, doing some overtime at the moment |
| 15:31.33 | missmbob | overtime. so this is work? running sid? |
| 15:31.40 | shodan` | build slaves |
| 15:31.50 | jelly | slavery! |
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| 15:32.07 | shodan` | Our build slaves run Debian sid to make sure that we're targeting the most recent version of PHP |
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| 15:32.42 | greycat | On purpose?!? |
| 15:33.06 | missmbob | you should update your resume |
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| 15:34.00 | shodan` | The project is not scheduled for release for quite some time so the slaves that build it are running php7.x. Other projects are running on php5.6 workers |
| 15:35.08 | jelly | shodan`: thumbs up for future proofing! |
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| 15:35.39 | shodan` | it's not something I just decided because I want to just run the most bleeding edge |
| 15:35.53 | jelly | shodan`: if you never experienced debian during a freeze, /msg dpkg slushy |
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| 15:36.28 | shodan` | we're still building stuff on a 2005 version of delphi for example |
| 15:37.01 | shodan` | jelly: If a php7.x version gets frozen then we'll target that. But nothing is reverse incompatible at the moment. |
| 15:37.08 | jelly | does that delphi source build with fpc :-> |
| 15:37.28 | shodan` | Don't know, we have a pretty terrible bus factor for the people who work on that project |
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| 15:37.38 | shodan` | 1985 was the year the project started :x |
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| 16:28.19 | anigma | does anyone know if twm is included by default in the xorg meta-package? |
| 16:28.31 | greycat | judd file bin/twm |
| 16:28.35 | judd | Search for bin/twm in jessie/amd64: twm: usr/bin/twm |
| 16:29.44 | greycat | I don't believe xorg brings in *any* window manager packages. |
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| 16:31.57 | n4dir | in the past xorg added a tiny window-manager, perhaps twm, but it doesn't anymore. |
| 16:32.04 | n4dir | well: last time i checked. |
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| 16:36.24 | greycat | Last dependency it lists is "xterm | x-terminal-emulator" |
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| 16:39.52 | anigma | greycat: much obliged |
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| 16:48.17 | micros | does anyone know how to post a linux user input key event for KEY_VOLDOWN/UP where the input type is EV_REL? when i do this, no event is processed under android. If i use EV_KEY, it works OK, but this is not suitable for a rotary knob which provides only a relative offset when its turned. |
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| 16:48.24 | debinola | hi. my headless machine stopped to get ready ssh so i'm out. now i've got its memory here. how i can investigate the issue? since systemd i don't know how to debug things anymore... no text log |
| 16:48.48 | debinola | i tried the 'systemd-nspawn -D debian-tree/' magic but i get a shell working but with systemd unusable. |
| 16:49.10 | debinola | with "systemd-nspawn -D debian-tree/ /sbin/init" i get the system running but login prompt don't show up. last mesasge is "Failed to allocate manager object: Function not implemented" |
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| 16:54.59 | petn-randall | debinola: What would you do with sysv init what you can't do with systemd? |
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| 16:56.06 | somiaj | debinola: besides for the journctl log which may not be there if you don't have persistance enabled, lots of other logs are still in /var/log you can look for things in. |
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| 16:56.46 | petn-randall | I'd try to chroot into the system, and look at the logs in /var/log/, both things you can still do with systemd. |
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| 16:57.32 | greycat | sysvinit + bootlogd did create a nice human-readable /var/log/boot though. |
| 16:57.49 | n4dir | ^^ that. |
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| 16:59.18 | petn-randall | Ah, in that case you need persistent journal to get the same. |
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| 17:03.02 | jorb | so i'm trying to extract these rpms .. via `rpm2cpio <file> | cpio -di` |
| 17:03.19 | jorb | and some of the files are setgid, and causing lots of permission denied |
| 17:03.33 | jorb | i'm at a loss as to how to fix it without sudo'ing |
| 17:04.10 | greycat | Are you planning to *run* those setgid programs? With or without their setgid bits? |
| 17:04.54 | jorb | not ncessarily .. just trying to extract them |
| 17:05.02 | jorb | actually, it is the directories that are setgid |
| 17:05.19 | jorb | i can confirm the rpms are perfectly valid and stuff |
| 17:05.27 | jorb | just not sure how to extract them on my debian machine |
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| 17:10.44 | petn-randall | jorb: You could use fakeroot if the extraction process fails. rpm2cpio doesn't have an option to override permissions and ownership? |
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| 17:13.31 | debinola | petn-randall: /var/log XD |
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| 17:20.32 | petn-randall | debinola: I'm not quite getting what you're trying to say. |
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| 17:23.50 | debinola | neither do i with your question sorry. so move on petn-randall |
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| 17:31.24 | ocx32 | hello |
| 17:31.32 | ocx32 | i F***cked my pc can anyone help? |
| 17:31.32 | jim | hi |
| 17:31.39 | ocx32 | i booted in gparted livecd to extand /boot , so i shrinked / few mbs and extanded /boot, pressed apply and now i am unable to boot my ubuntu |
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| 17:32.28 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 17:32.28 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 17:32.32 | petn-randall | ocx32: ^^^ |
| 17:32.42 | ocx32 | its a general linux question |
| 17:32.59 | petn-randall | ocx32: Still offtopic in #debian, check the /topic. |
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| 17:33.47 | jim | whee |
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| 18:20.14 | jorb | petn-randall: thx, makes sense |
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| 18:21.15 | Braven | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.46 | Braven | hello everyone |
| 18:21.53 | Akuli | hello :) |
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| 18:24.32 | Braven | I have an issue with DNS and my multihone server. I have 2 interfaces. One is set to DHCP (we are using it for deployment) and another one that is static. The issue is sometime it register in DNS with the DHCP IP and sometime is register with the static IP. We alway want the static IP to register |
| 18:24.52 | greycat | How are you making it "register"? |
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| 18:25.11 | Braven | it is GreyCat! |
| 18:25.30 | Braven | You are everywhere. |
| 18:26.54 | Braven | So wierd part is that we have static entry in DNS for the servers. But usaully after a reboot it could go either way |
| 18:27.03 | greycat | How are you making it "register" in DNS? |
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| 18:29.22 | Braven | I am not making it register. I have a static Host A entry in Windows DNS server. The problem is some how it is over writing the static entry. |
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| 18:29.48 | greycat | windows... dns... *shudder* |
| 18:30.05 | greycat | Well, figure out what is causing it to do that, and make it stop. |
| 18:30.18 | jelly | Braven: disable dynamic dns registration in windows dns server? |
| 18:31.07 | jelly | or figure out which dhcp client is used, and what it does to make windows "register" it, and try to disable that setting |
| 18:31.12 | Braven | lol! I have support case open with M$. I am thinking if could control the order of interfaces came online I could fix the issue |
| 18:31.56 | jelly | I wouldn't rely on side effects like that |
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| 18:32.12 | greycat | It is not a Debian issue, unless you are explicitly running a dynamic DNS client program on the Debian system. |
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| 18:32.29 | jelly | if it's the very same server, why use two interfaces pointed at the same network segment at all? |
| 18:32.56 | Braven | they are seperate vlans |
| 18:33.09 | jelly | but the same windows dns server is present in _both_ vlans? |
| 18:33.41 | Braven | eth0 is on it own vlan and eth2 and eth3 are in a port channel bond |
| 18:33.56 | jelly | Braven: pastebin your "ip a" output |
| 18:35.29 | jelly | Braven: which debian release? |
| 18:36.24 | jelly | Braven: is the windows machine visible over both eth0 and bond0? |
| 18:36.41 | Braven | yes, |
| 18:36.52 | jelly | Braven: and your /etc/network/interfaces, too, please |
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| 18:39.51 | Braven | where do I need to share it? |
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| 18:40.00 | greycat | http://paste.debian.net/ is preferred |
| 18:40.10 | Akuli | easy way: your command | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 18:40.34 | anddam | having to use a microsoft fs for a 1TB partition should I use vfat or ntfs? |
| 18:40.47 | greycat | If he's got easy copy/paste to a web browser, then it's better to use that, so you can copy the COMMAND as well as the output. |
| 18:41.10 | Akuli | does a modern windows even install on a vfat filesystem? |
| 18:41.14 | anddam | this is an USB enclosure and other OSes need to access the files so it's the "lingua franca" |
| 18:41.18 | greycat | anddam: depends on what you're going to do with it. |
| 18:41.24 | anddam | Akuli: I don't have any idea |
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| 18:41.26 | Braven | http://paste.debian.net/883406 |
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| 18:41.33 | greycat | If you're moving it across many different systems, vfat for sure. |
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| 18:42.00 | anddam | greycat: allows other system to access files on the volume, I don't have any further specs |
| 18:42.22 | anddam | well ofc I want to preserve long names and all, I mean I wouldn't want to hit a nested directory limit or so |
| 18:42.25 | anddam | or stick to 8.3 naming |
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| 18:42.39 | jelly | Braven: why do you have a static ip on untagged bond0? |
| 18:43.00 | anddam | greycat: it's mainly connected to the debian box, but it might go to macos or windows boxes |
| 18:43.12 | greycat | If you're moving it across many different systems, vfat for sure. |
| 18:43.18 | anddam | not sure if three qualifies as "many" |
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| 18:44.20 | greycat | Three *different* operating systems? That's many. |
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| 18:44.57 | Akuli | are they always on the same computer or do you have multiple computers that you want to run with the hard drive? |
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| 18:45.32 | anddam | Akuli: can you rephrase? |
| 18:45.39 | anddam | oh no wait, I got it |
| 18:45.42 | anddam | different computers |
| 18:45.46 | greycat | akuli seems to think you are *BOOTING* from this drive |
| 18:45.48 | Akuli | so you want to move the hard drive around? |
| 18:45.50 | Braven | Bond0.310 interface is suppose to be updating the DNS |
| 18:46.00 | Akuli | greycat, good point, yes |
| 18:46.00 | anddam | no, it's just for some data storage |
| 18:46.03 | Akuli | oh ok |
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| 18:46.16 | jelly | Braven: a stupid workaround could be: use overrides in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to make dhclient account a different hostname |
| 18:46.19 | Akuli | now i understand greycat's recommendations :) |
| 18:46.29 | anddam | vfat it is then, thanks |
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| 18:46.43 | anddam | out of curiosity why is it a better choice than ntfs? |
| 18:46.49 | Akuli | i think vfat can't be used for storing files larger than 2GB |
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| 18:47.01 | Akuli | i might be wrong |
| 18:47.13 | anddam | I'll check, thanks for the heads up |
| 18:47.19 | Braven | That could work..I could give hostname and append-Mgmt to the name |
| 18:47.20 | jelly | Braven: bond0.310 seems to have a static ip, it's not supposed to update anything |
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| 18:47.40 | jelly | man dhclient.conf for details, I guess. Similar to eg. |
| 18:47.44 | jelly | !override dns |
| 18:47.44 | dpkg | To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. Or remove domain-name-servers (etc.) from dhclient.conf if you prefer. |
| 18:47.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | depends on the version/type of fat⦠there's a wikipedia page on it |
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| 18:48.36 | Akuli | i assumed fat32 |
| 18:48.39 | jelly | lemme see if I have a lacp bonding setup with vlan trunk somewhere |
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| 18:49.43 | jelly | Braven: I must have missed it, which Debian release is this? |
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| 18:50.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT32 |
| 18:50.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | apparently 4G |
| 18:51.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, really seems "it's complicated" |
| 18:51.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I seem to remember a table comparing different filesystems or so |
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| 18:52.10 | Braven | So in dhclient.conf. I have already removed the setting that retrieves DNS setting for the DHCP interfaces |
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| 18:53.57 | greycat | Braven: that has nothing to do with the DHCP server telling the DNS server to fuck around with your entry. |
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| 18:54.21 | greycat | Which, if I am understanding you, is what is happening. |
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| 18:54.58 | greycat | And since they're both Windows products, the solution probably involves clicking something. |
| 18:55.10 | jelly | Braven: that was not relevant, just an example how dhcp client settings can be overridden |
| 18:56.04 | jelly | and if you can override the hostname dhclient on eth0 offers, you can probably make it not overwrite the existing static entry |
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| 18:56.56 | r4z | Hello! quick question could be that iptables are blocking the DNS? I set an CNAME record to a sandstorm public ID but I just get 404s |
| 18:57.15 | greycat | Um. |
| 18:57.19 | jelly | Braven: you did not say 1. which debian release this was 2. whether your (window) dns server was also your dhcp server |
| 18:57.24 | greycat | 404 is an HTTP response, most likely. |
| 18:57.28 | r4z | public id and grain confirmed working |
| 18:57.32 | r4z | debian 8 |
| 18:57.47 | jelly | r4z: a 404 would mean dns worked |
| 18:57.56 | r4z | hmm true |
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| 18:58.08 | greycat | 404 in a web browser means you successfully contacted *some* web server and got a response. |
| 18:58.22 | r4z | I see, thanks! |
| 18:58.24 | jelly | (or at least, returned _something_ if not necessarily what you wanted to) |
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| 19:02.04 | Rust3dCor3 | Hi. cant start uget-gtk as normal user, but only as root. i have reinstalled it but with no success. does anybody has a similar problem? |
| 19:03.46 | Rust3dCor3 | http://pastebin.com/Fj58AAHV |
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| 19:06.55 | Braven | I am not sure what the version is |
| 19:07.01 | greycat | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:07.33 | Rust3dCor3 | mine is 8.6 |
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| 19:08.37 | jelly | Braven: or run "lsb_release -sc" |
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| 19:09.41 | Braven | jessie |
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| 19:11.50 | hexnewbie | How would i set the keyboard rate reliably in LXDE after login? So far I tried the lxinput, as well as: echo 'DISPLAY=:0; export DISPLAY; xset r rate 175 40' | at now + 1 min |
| 19:12.08 | hexnewbie | The latter being put in .xsessionrc. I get the emails, but the keyboard rate is still wrong |
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| 19:13.24 | jelly | Braven: something like http://paste.debian.net/883420/ worked on debian 7 and 8 here |
| 19:13.31 | jelly | jessie is 8, the current release |
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| 19:14.47 | Braven | bond-updelay 200 |
| 19:14.49 | jelly | older releases needed slave device links manually up, and a sleep 8 or similar to make sure they're up, or vlan would not work correctly |
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| 19:15.29 | jelly | if it works for you without delays, the better |
| 19:16.22 | jelly | presumably you tested unplugging links and back, then unplugging the other one and back |
| 19:16.35 | jelly | s/links/a link/ |
| 19:17.17 | jelly | > If bond-miimon is NOT defined, Debian uses crappy behaviour of ignoring slave failures. Always define miimon!. |
| 19:17.26 | jelly | says internal doc |
| 19:17.31 | hexnewbie | Maybe LXDE has a bug where it sets the reciprocal of the lxinput rate (40) when pressing OK, and the lxinput rate after reboot (25)? Because that's what I get |
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| 19:18.27 | jelly | you already got that bit |
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| 19:28.14 | TG_ | ok, well that burn failed. is this fine? growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvd=debian-8.6.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
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| 19:28.40 | TG_ | for some reason I'm having a hard time with the concept that growisofs is the command I should use to write DVDs |
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| 19:31.25 | TriJetScud | TG_: it would be easier just to stick it in an USB |
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| 19:32.48 | TG_ | thanks, but I need a DVD for now |
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| 19:33.12 | TG_ | I think it's just a crappy blank disc, nevermind |
| 19:33.29 | TriJetScud | TG_: legacy system? |
| 19:33.36 | TriJetScud | i.e. no UEFI at all? |
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| 19:34.21 | TG_ | No, it's fine. It's my own personal idiosyncracy, so I guess I won't bother you with it. |
| 19:34.36 | TG_ | I just like optical discs sometimes |
| 19:34.49 | TG_ | Plus, no spare USB sticks of that size |
| 19:35.04 | TriJetScud | heh, i'd just do net install at that point |
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| 19:35.23 | TriJetScud | a bootable usb stick and the actual files hosted on a network |
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| 19:36.40 | TG_ | I might try that :) |
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| 19:39.33 | Emil | Yo |
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| 19:40.00 | Emil | So I have a server and did an raid array on it with mdadm |
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| 19:40.33 | Emil | now I needed to change the name of an array so I assembled it again and edited the name in mdadm.conf and then updated initramfs |
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| 19:40.37 | Emil | And then rebooted |
| 19:40.40 | Emil | but it doesn't come up again |
| 19:41.00 | Emil | Can I simply boot from an usb stick, change the name in mdadm.conf and it should work? |
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| 19:49.29 | drzraf | Hi, I've a setgid quetion: userA just created its own dir (dirA/) inside a setgid'ed root directory (sftp). dirA/ is drwxrwsr-x (userA.groupX). Then comes userB (whose primary group is groupX too) inside dirA/. But he's forbidden to write. Why? |
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| 19:49.48 | Emil | So I have a server and did an raid array on it with mdadm |
| 19:49.52 | Emil | oops |
| 19:50.31 | somiaj | drzraf: Just because the directory gives write permissions to a group, indviduial files may not have these permisions. Some programs such as sftp, could set the permisions to be what the original file is after the file is made. |
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| 19:51.14 | greycat | Ah, clever. I hadn't even considered that he might be colliding on the filename INSIDE the dir. |
| 19:51.29 | drzraf | somiaj: userB try to touch a new file inside dirA/ + the test is not yet done with sftp (interactive shell) |
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| 19:51.51 | drzraf | `touch` is open("touch-from-B.txt", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_NOCTTY|O_NONBLOCK, 0666) = -1 EACCES |
| 19:51.54 | somiaj | drzraf: so when userB runs touch, the created file doesn't get the correct default permissions? |
| 19:52.08 | drzraf | he isn't allowedto create the file |
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| 19:52.21 | greycat | drzraf: are you sure you're in the right directory? |
| 19:52.25 | somiaj | drzraf: this is inside dirA (or the subdirectory dirB)? |
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| 19:52.35 | RFleming | Greetings! |
| 19:52.36 | drzraf | inside dirA |
| 19:52.44 | RFleming | When does debian ignore setuid on a folder? |
| 19:52.53 | greycat | drzraf: does user B have x perms on all the PARENTS of dirA? |
| 19:52.59 | somiaj | drzraf: run 'groups', do you need to logout/back in to get the user into the right group? |
| 19:53.02 | greycat | RFleming: every. time. |
| 19:53.12 | greycat | setuid on a directory does nothing. |
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| 19:53.27 | drzraf | userB can touch inside the parent of dirA (the "root" dir) |
| 19:53.36 | RFleming | I've set a directory with both setuid and setgid, but only setgid is applied on new file/directory creation. |
| 19:53.41 | greycat | setuid on a directory does nothing. |
| 19:54.03 | drzraf | that's setgid (+s): dirA/ is drwxrwsr-x (userA.groupX) |
| 19:54.56 | RFleming | isn't sure if he walked into a similar question or if greycat is speaking with him |
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| 19:55.02 | greycat | RFLEMING: setuid on a directory does nothing. |
| 19:55.12 | RFleming | yes, I see that... but the question is why? |
| 19:55.21 | RFleming | protection from stupid? :) |
| 19:55.28 | greycat | BECAUSE IT NEVER HAS, AND IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO |
| 19:55.43 | greycat | You imagined it would do something, perhaps. |
| 19:56.14 | fyk9 | Hello i can't get autocompletion when logging as root in ssh any idea ? |
| 19:56.31 | RFleming | Oooh, yelling. |
| 19:56.33 | RFleming | lovely |
| 19:56.35 | greycat | fyk9: stop logging in directly as root and expecting a comfy padded user environment. |
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| 19:56.59 | pseudocrat | Hey guys. I'm using Debian 8 (Gnome) and I had a weird question. How come when I start Pidgin it just connects in the background, but doesn't create the friends window until I run the application a second time? This may be a Gnome issue/feature so sorry if the question doesn't belong here. |
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| 19:57.08 | fyk9 | greycat, you want me to use sudo ? |
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| 19:57.21 | greycat | Root's environment, if you login directly as root, which is frowned upon, is supposed to be spartan. Not crufted up with bash-completion garbage. |
| 19:57.44 | somiaj | pseudocrat: could be it just loads it into the systray and then you need to open it from the systtray. |
| 19:57.57 | pseudocrat | Nothing is loaded into the systray until I open it the second time |
| 19:58.00 | RFleming | fyk9: if you want to live in root... use sudo -s and log in the once. Uses your own bash profile and settings without messing up root |
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| 19:58.49 | pseudocrat | Pidgin has systray set to show always as well. I thought that may be the issue |
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| 20:00.54 | TG_ | speaking of comfortable bash environments: how do I get .profile to be loaded in xterm automatically? or do I have to log out of my X session and back in again? |
| 20:01.03 | TG_ | this question has been bugging me for about 17 years now |
| 20:01.20 | greycat | You configure your per-shell-instance stuff in .bashrc instead of .profile, because .bashrc is loaded by every xterm. |
| 20:01.30 | greycat | That's aliases, functions, set -o stuff, shopt stuff. |
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| 20:02.33 | pseudocrat | Actually, I think it may just be a gnome issue on the first launch of the application. Subsequent logins/launches behave as expected |
| 20:02.45 | TG_ | while that's very informative, I need the path set, and possibly other environment variables |
| 20:03.14 | greycat | PATH should be set in your master login config file, so it gets inherited by your window manager, and then by the shells it creates. |
| 20:03.34 | greycat | If you login on a console, that would be .bash_profile or .profile or similar. If you login with a GUI, it's .xsessionrc |
| 20:03.57 | greycat | (Same for all other environment variables as well.) |
| 20:05.25 | TG_ | .bash_profile, etc., is your master login config file here? |
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| 20:06.10 | greycat | Only if you login on a text console and use startx. |
| 20:06.25 | drzraf | somiaj, greycat: it was ACL related. After I setfacl -b dirA/ I found that directory wasn't group-writable anymore |
| 20:06.32 | neilthereildeil | whats a good screenvideo and mic audio recorder for debian? |
| 20:06.36 | TG_ | ok, that would explain why it just worked when I logged in to a text console and used startx |
| 20:06.57 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables and https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession are helpful. |
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| 20:07.50 | nsgn | Looking for an IRC channel for Caddy (the http/2 server). Having trouble finding them. |
| 20:07.52 | TG_ | reading. |
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| 20:09.54 | neilthereildeil | i see a few, but they are not available in debian repos |
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| 20:24.40 | TG_ | greycat, I think I will use .xsessionrc, thank you. |
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| 20:25.17 | drzraf | can I force "group::r-x" to become "group::rwx" (given chmod g+w does not do it)? |
| 20:25.35 | drzraf | (without have to setfacl -b, then chmod g+w, then restore ACL) |
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| 20:28.12 | ghormoon | hi, any hint for something that will be in repos to cut (start, end) and crop (which part of image) video? |
| 20:29.14 | petemc | ffmpeg |
| 20:29.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | ffmpeg |
| 20:29.20 | petemc | i win |
| 20:29.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | you cheated |
| 20:29.46 | petemc | prove it |
| 20:29.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | you need to recode to cut in most cases |
| 20:30.03 | franzer | anyone seen where using cinnamon on hidpi, the lockscreen seems to do a strange zoom in? |
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| 20:30.15 | ghormoon | ok, somethnig with gui? :) |
| 20:30.25 | jak2000 | !dpkg sources.list |
| 20:30.26 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 20:30.51 | franzer | kernel 4.7.0-1 if necessary |
| 20:30.58 | teraflops | ghormoon: ehm, ffmpeg :P |
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| 20:31.24 | ghormoon | I've alays though ffmpeg was cmdline only :) |
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| 20:33.35 | teraflops | ghormoon: yeah I didn't read your last message |
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| 20:34.05 | ghormoon | I just don't wanna be guessing the crop coordinates all day :) |
| 20:34.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | mplayer/mpv can show you a box and you can map keys to move the box around |
| 20:34.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | and resize it |
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| 20:36.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I don't usually use ffmpeg, I use mplayer + x264 + neroAacEnc + MP4Box |
| 20:36.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | apparently switching ffmpeg to use divx works about as well, though⦠my setup predates that |
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| 20:38.08 | rattking | for a gui checkout pitivi or kdenlive if you already have kde installed.. |
| 20:38.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ghormoon, ~/.mplayer/input.conf --> lines like KP1 change_rectangle 0 5 |
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| 20:40.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | pitivi, melt, openshot, kino⦠and what was it (seems gone now) cinellara or so⦠I dunno, I never could make them produce something useful |
| 20:40.50 | ghormoon | I've googled up openshot and failed to find crop in it |
| 20:41.02 | ghormoon | and also even if I cut start/end, the serult is not cut, that thing is strange :) |
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| 20:42.23 | rattking | I figured out the start and end stuff pretty quick but had to trial and error cropping in kdenlive |
| 20:42.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | the youtube editor can do most (all?) of these things⦠makes you wonder what google uses |
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| 20:47.20 | ghormoon | can kdenlive copy stream whne not altering it except start/end cut? |
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| 20:48.44 | ghormoon | I feel bad about thinking abut windows VM for viatualdub :-/ |
| 20:48.57 | ghormoon | *virtualdub |
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| 21:09.11 | fiveflowerzz | Hi! |
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| 21:11.49 | somiaj | fiveflowerzz: hi, do you have a question about debian support? If so please ask. |
| 21:12.15 | Emil | Can anyone help with mdadm? |
| 21:12.55 | somiaj | Emil: I'd ask your question/issue again, though I don't think I can be of much help. |
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| 21:14.31 | fiveflowerzz | somiaj: my debian (on dedicated server) is serving ~ 10 sites |
| 21:14.44 | fiveflowerzz | I want to avoid Google analytics, and install a local tool |
| 21:14.50 | fiveflowerzz | that will do nearly the same |
| 21:15.05 | fiveflowerzz | Google gives me thousand of results, I wanted to know what you use guys |
| 21:15.53 | preaction | fiveflowerzz: pick one from google and see if you like it. if yes, use it. if no, pick another one. |
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| 21:16.23 | preaction | i've seen piwik being used, but i have no idea about its ease-of-installation |
| 21:16.45 | somiaj | fiveflowerzz: If there is a large list of tools, one way to narrow it down is pick ones that are already provided by debian and can just be installed with apt. |
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| 21:16.53 | fiveflowerzz | preaction: for (int i = 0; i <= 10000; i++) |
| 21:17.13 | somiaj | fiveflowerzz: I don't have much experience with such tools, so no suggestion form me. |
| 21:17.14 | preaction | error: i am not a shell |
| 21:17.25 | fiveflowerzz | just wondering, what do you usually use yourself? |
| 21:17.27 | fiveflowerzz | preaction :) |
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| 21:18.35 | Bennux_dev | https://goaccess.io/ some like this? |
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| 21:19.29 | fiveflowerzz | Bennux_dev: waw, exactly what I was looking for! |
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| 21:19.49 | nsgn | So I'm trying to start caddy using systemd. Daemon.log keeps telling me no such file or folder while I can copy/paste my exact exec path to caddy into the shell and it runs fine. Wtf? |
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| 21:20.13 | somiaj | nsgn: care to share the unit file you are using? |
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| 21:20.21 | somiaj | nsgn: use paste.debian.net |
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| 21:20.48 | fiveflowerzz | Bennux_dev: have you tried it? |
| 21:20.59 | nsgn | somiaj, standby |
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| 21:21.36 | fiveflowerzz | I'm trying to figure out how it works again: access.log ? access.log.1 ? access.log.2 etc. then access.log.1.gz (which is not access.log.1 gzipped) |
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| 21:21.55 | Bennux_dev | fiveflowerzz: Yes, for view the log of my server, like visits and that stuff. |
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| 21:22.35 | nsgn | somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/50b4da6c/ |
| 21:22.53 | fiveflowerzz | Bennux_dev: can you set up your own dashboard ? ex: first display unique visitors for sitea.com , then this for siteb.com, etc. |
| 21:24.06 | somiaj | nsgn: systemctl statuts unitname.service -- does it say the unit is running, sometimes when working with a unit file it will get running, and you need to explicty 'stop' it, then reload the unit file then start it for any changes to actually take aaffect |
| 21:25.20 | nsgn | Says it entered failed state. No such file or directory for /opt/caddy-server/caddy |
| 21:25.30 | nsgn | Yet I can copy/paste that right to the shell and it fires up caddy |
| 21:26.01 | nsgn | I've rebooted fully a few times. It automatically tries to start caddy but logs the same no such file or directory to daemon.log |
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| 21:26.40 | somiaj | nsgn: it still thinks it is running (even though it failed), you have to stop the service before you can try again after you fix the unit file, 'systemctl stop unitname' |
| 21:26.44 | Bennux_dev | fiveflowerzz: actually the server runs one VirtualHost, I haven't much experience with the tool. |
| 21:26.56 | nsgn | somiaj, Even between reboots? |
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| 21:28.08 | fiveflowerzz | Bennux_dev: as you have to give the input file (like "goaccess /var/log/apache2/access.log") what happens if you have lots of .gz files in /var/log/apache2 ? |
| 21:28.08 | agrecascino | so im using ia64 with debian 7 |
| 21:28.18 | nsgn | somiaj, I expected something like that which is why I rebooted but are you saying it somehow remembers its running state through a reboot? I have had the unit file correct for several reboots. |
| 21:28.25 | somiaj | nsgn: if the service is trying to be brought up automatically and you haven't reloaded the unit file then yes. |
| 21:28.37 | agrecascino | and i have the net installer on my flash drive |
| 21:28.38 | somiaj | nsgn: I would get it to work from the command 'systemctl start unitname' before rbooting |
| 21:28.53 | somiaj | nsgn: making a change may not be reloaded by systemd, I think you need to do a reload, one second. |
| 21:28.54 | agrecascino | and when i launch elilo and start linux |
| 21:28.57 | agrecascino | the system restarts |
| 21:29.20 | somiaj | agrecascino: and you are positive you have ia64 hardware (this is usually rare). |
| 21:29.43 | agrecascino | its an rx2620 |
| 21:29.48 | agrecascino | hell yeah i do |
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| 21:30.01 | somiaj | agrecascino: how did you create/put the image on the flash drive. |
| 21:30.14 | somiaj | agrecascino: okay just checking, some people use that for say an i7 when amd64 is needed. |
| 21:30.22 | agrecascino | i formatted it fat32 |
| 21:30.25 | agrecascino | then copied the files |
| 21:30.33 | Bennux_dev | fiveflowerzz: Yes, and generate the html to view online. |
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| 21:31.35 | somiaj | agrecascino: I'm not that familar with the arch, but the standard way to create a bootable image is to 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdc' if /dev/sdc is your usb drive, make sure you get the drive right |
| 21:31.47 | nsgn | somiaj, I can do stop and then start and the same issue persists. I'm missing how it can't find this file that has fairly open permissions and that I can run from the shell with the exact same path. |
| 21:32.03 | agrecascino | somiaj, i cant mount the drive with isofs |
| 21:32.06 | somiaj | nsgn: did you systemctl reload unitname after making the changes. |
| 21:32.17 | nsgn | yes |
| 21:32.29 | nsgn | The log shows me it is trying to hit the correct path |
| 21:32.35 | somiaj | nsgn: look at systemclt status unitname, is it still giving the same error? |
| 21:32.48 | nsgn | I can literally copy the path from the error message in daemon.log and paste it at the shell and run it and caddy fires up |
| 21:33.11 | nsgn | So this doesn't appear to be that systemctl isn't picking up my current caddy.service file |
| 21:33.54 | somiaj | agrecascino: I'm unsure if there is anything different for the ia64 images than the i386/amd64 ones I'm use to. But in general the image is already created, you just need to copy the image onto the usb drive and then it should boot. If not double check the install manual for ia64. |
| 21:34.49 | somiaj | nsgn: you don't have an old caddy.service file sitting in /lib/systemd/system or /etc/systemd/system? |
| 21:35.00 | nsgn | no sir |
| 21:35.10 | nsgn | this is the only one and it has a correct path |
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| 21:35.57 | somiaj | nsgn: well how about you paste the full output of 'systemctl -l status caddy' |
| 21:36.13 | somiaj | nsgn: there is also a systemd channel that may give better support than I can. |
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| 21:37.34 | fiveflowerzz | Where is the apache "log rotating" config done? |
| 21:37.38 | fiveflowerzz | in debian 8? |
| 21:37.49 | fiveflowerzz | the rule that states when access.log is gzipped, etc. ? |
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| 21:39.15 | somiaj | fiveflowerzz: logrotate |
| 21:39.34 | somiaj | fiveflowerzz: check /etc/logrorate.conf and /etc/logrotate.d/ |
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| 21:39.54 | fiveflowerzz | somiaj: this file is empty |
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| 21:40.50 | fiveflowerzz | no ok, found, it's /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 |
| 21:40.54 | nsgn | somiaj, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/595f2beb/ |
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| 21:45.25 | somiaj | nsgn: it didn't produce any logs or messages besides what you pasted? I'm unsure what 'failed (Result: start-limit)' means in terms of why it is failing. |
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| 21:46.41 | g00se | If i wanted to send a mail before the user shuts down, what would Before and After be, such that sending the mail is still possible? |
| 21:47.08 | Emil | somiaj: okay |
| 21:47.14 | Emil | so I'm having trouble with mdadm |
| 21:47.20 | petemc | before shutting down, send mail. |
| 21:47.28 | petemc | after sending mail, shut down |
| 21:47.31 | somiaj | g00se: systemd should perform shutdown exactly oposite of bootup which is what I think Before and After refer to. |
| 21:47.56 | Emil | I tried updating my array name from name11:2 to name:2 by editing mdadm.conf, using mdadm --assembly and then update-initramfs |
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| 21:48.01 | Emil | and the server doesn't boot anymore |
| 21:48.16 | Emil | To fix it, can I just boot from a memory stick and edit mdadm.conf? |
| 21:48.21 | Emil | Or is the server fucked |
| 21:48.23 | somiaj | g00se: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39226/how-to-run-a-script-with-systemd-right-before-shutdown maybe that will help. |
| 21:49.00 | somiaj | Emil: you should be able to boot from a recovery image, chroot into your current install and edit the mdadm.conf file and rebuild the initrd image |
| 21:50.13 | Emil | Thanks |
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| 21:51.10 | nsgnn | somiaj, The failure is it can't find the file or folder /opt/caddy-server/caddy, which shows repeatedly as it tries over and over to launch caddy until it reaches the start limit. |
| 21:51.29 | nsgnn | somiaj, The issue is that, without any sliver of doubt, that file exists. |
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| 21:53.26 | somiaj | could it be an issue with the user www-data not being able to see the file? |
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| 21:53.53 | nsgnn | somiaj, Possibly. I tried two other users, all of which I can log into a shell for and hit the file. No luck in systemd but works fine from shell. |
| 21:54.36 | somiaj | nsgnn: when I had to debug my unit files it took a bit, I don't see what the problem is, but gave you the tools i know to debug it |
| 21:54.59 | g00se | somiaj: thanks |
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| 21:56.15 | nsgnn | somiaj, I appreciate it. I'm just dead stumped. I don't get how when I put my user in there it claims a file doesn't exist which I can open just fine with the same creds. |
| 21:56.30 | somiaj | nsgnn: there is #systemd or ##systemd |
| 21:57.01 | somiaj | nsgnn: maybe provide them with a copy of the unit file, the full output (with the errors) of systemctl -l status unit, and then they might know something I don't from my limited experience. |
| 21:57.14 | nsgnn | Thanks |
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| 22:09.25 | gasull | I cannot get my microphone to work: http://pastebin.com/dCAbqj6Q |
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| 22:11.06 | gasull | How can I troubleshoot this? |
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| 22:17.43 | gasull | Is there any other channel where I can ask this question? |
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| 22:19.43 | sancho__ | hi! im trying to install debian xfce on my amd |
| 22:19.53 | fiveflowerzz | In the access.log, I don't see the referer, where should I configure this? |
| 22:21.32 | sancho__ | hi! im trying to install debian xfce on my amd64 laptop but the live usb will load a blank screen. if i use the amd64 mode it loads with very poor graphics... how can i mange to make debian work with my radeon 5400 series? thank you very much |
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| 22:48.24 | techno2900 | Hi ! I would like to know if anybody knows with which program on debian, I can convert video |
| 22:48.54 | gasull | techno2900: vlc |
| 22:49.28 | preaction | ffmpeg, handbrake |
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| 22:50.40 | techno2900 | and which is the best ? |
| 22:50.48 | techno2900 | because I have many choices |
| 22:51.01 | preaction | whichever one works for you |
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| 22:51.40 | techno2900 | okay and I have a last question. I would like to know if a free and a lossless video format exist or not |
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| 22:54.57 | techno2900 | I have to go, thank you for your help :) |
| 22:55.15 | preaction | techno2900: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_codecs#Lossless_video_compression |
| 22:55.51 | techno2900 | one of them is free ? |
| 22:55.55 | techno2900 | like linux |
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| 22:58.43 | techno2900 | okay so I really have to go ! Thank you one more time :) |
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| 23:16.31 | NapoleonWils0n | hi all |
| 23:16.43 | NapoleonWils0n | just installed debian on a mac air |
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| 23:17.28 | NapoleonWils0n | i have a xkbcomp command that i want to run without using startx, im using gnome, wheres the best place to put the command |
| 23:17.54 | NapoleonWils0n | should i create a startup item, use my bashrc or xesssions |
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| 23:21.40 | somiaj | NapoleonWils0n: sure you can use the autorun scripts that gnome runs and put it there. I forget where it is located though. |
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| 23:22.05 | NapoleonWils0n | cheers somiaj |
| 23:22.09 | somiaj | NapoleonWils0n: it might need to be a .desktop file as opposed to a script for gnome though |
| 23:22.23 | NapoleonWils0n | right thought you might need a desktop file |
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| 23:22.37 | NapoleonWils0n | going to try xsession first and see if that works |
| 23:23.39 | somiaj | NapoleonWils0n: be careful, .xsession might not be sourced under the gnome session. You may need to edit the gnome session in /etc/X11/sessions or something liek that |
| 23:23.58 | somiaj | NapoleonWils0n: .desktop files are farily easy to write, just look up the syntax. |
| 23:24.35 | NapoleonWils0n | xsession doesnt work just returns me gdm login |
| 23:25.25 | somiaj | yea if it sources .xsession you would also need to run gnome from that |
| 23:25.41 | NapoleonWils0n | forgot how you bring up bring up a terminal from gdm login screen |
| 23:27.30 | NapoleonWils0n | fixed will use desktop file |
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| 23:30.37 | NapoleonWils0n | i have some bash scripts to record from kodi and made debian set up video |
| 23:30.39 | NapoleonWils0n | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tLSDK0cXY |
| 23:30.49 | NapoleonWils0n | https://github.com/NapoleonWils0n/kodi-playercorefactory |
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| 23:46.14 | reoost | help |
| 23:47.29 | g00se | My attempt to get a system unit to send an email is failing. Though i have After=network-online.target I'm not sure that's right as there seems to be a dns problem making the connection ... |
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