| 00:00.05 | Learnerwind | http://pastebin.com/kHkqB73D |
| 00:00.24 | cruncher | Learnerwind, be aware that some nics cant change mac address, resp it resets them always back to original mac |
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| 00:01.22 | Learnerwind | Is my script fine |
| 00:01.23 | Learnerwind | ? |
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| 00:02.18 | cruncher | i hope the missing "#" before !/bin/bash is just a copy/paste error |
| 00:02.39 | Learnerwind | It is there, just not in the pastebin |
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| 00:04.56 | Learnerwind | I've played with changing mac on this computer before |
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| 00:05.50 | cruncher | Learnerwind, yes, basically its correct, but did you try line 12 separately? |
| 00:06.00 | cruncher | because as i said, on some nics you cant set the mac |
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| 00:06.10 | Learnerwind | cruncher: Yes |
| 00:06.41 | Learnerwind | by the way, i've used #! for long time. It is my main distro |
| 00:06.42 | cruncher | so if line 12 works manually, what is the problem? |
| 00:06.59 | cruncher | only that it doesnt work in if-pre-up.d? |
| 00:07.06 | cruncher | does it work when executed manually? |
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| 00:07.19 | Learnerwind | yes it does |
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| 00:09.37 | Learnerwind | Got the problem |
| 00:09.37 | Learnerwind | you helped me |
| 00:09.37 | Learnerwind | Got the problem |
| 00:09.40 | Learnerwind | you helped me |
| 00:09.52 | Learnerwind | It will work sometimes but now tall |
| 00:09.52 | cruncher | Learnerwind, but you shouldnt bring it up or down in the script you put into if-pre-up.d |
| 00:10.09 | Learnerwind | yeah |
| 00:10.15 | Learnerwind | i tryid it to fix the bug |
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| 00:10.58 | Learnerwind | But the bug is: It may generate numbers below 10 and bc will cut the leading char |
| 00:11.34 | Learnerwind | like 'echo "obase=16; 15" | bc ' |
| 00:11.38 | Learnerwind | it will generate F |
| 00:11.44 | Learnerwind | whichi is no in the right format |
| 00:12.05 | cruncher | ok. Also be aware that network manager doesnt run scripts in if-pre-up.d |
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| 00:12.12 | cruncher | in case you'll use it |
| 00:12.22 | Learnerwind | yeah |
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| 00:12.30 | Learnerwind | i've put ir in other places too |
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| 00:30.37 | gustavohmsilva_ | hi guys. how can I point debian to use bin, usr, sbin and etc to another disk? |
| 00:30.45 | gustavohmsilva_ | after the debian is installed |
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| 00:32.00 | cmj | you could try with bind mounts |
| 00:32.10 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: can you be more clear what it is you are trying to achive? |
| 00:32.19 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: almost sounds like you want a chroot |
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| 00:35.02 | gustavohmsilva_ | somiaj: no... my OS is running on a 4gb drive, but I have a extra drive with 16gb... would be nice if all the software that i install does not consume my 4gb root drive |
| 00:35.46 | gustavohmsilva_ | here's the catch somiaj, I don't have grub, because it's a fastboot dev board |
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| 00:36.11 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: well you can decide what part you want on another drive, issue is you have various other file systems. |
| 00:36.40 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: for example most of the data installed by debian is in /usr, you could create a partition/filesystem on the second drive and put all the /usr data over there. |
| 00:36.57 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: but another big place is /home, and the last big place is /var (Depending on logs and stuff like that) |
| 00:37.06 | gustavohmsilva_ | upon reboot everything will be recognized? |
| 00:37.15 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: you can mount other filesystems in place of these main locations. |
| 00:37.29 | somiaj | gustavohmsilva_: you will have to copy over the data to the new file system and set up the info about the mount in /etc/fstab |
| 00:38.01 | gustavohmsilva_ | hum... that makes sence... rsync everything I want to the new drive and then mount on /xxx/xx (original location |
| 00:38.04 | somiaj | you should also do this all from a live system to ensure your mirror works. |
| 00:38.17 | somiaj | correct then set up /etc/fstab to understand that this mount should live here |
| 00:38.43 | somiaj | if all you want to do is put /usr over there that would work. If you wanted /usr and /home this is a little more work that you could do with either two parittions or a symoblic link |
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| 00:38.52 | gustavohmsilva_ | just one thing, how can I delete the content from the main drive after? lol |
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| 00:41.27 | somiaj | the same as you would delete any content with rm, easier from the live system as you can't have the new mount in place when deleting the old filesystem |
| 00:42.03 | gustavohmsilva_ | I mean, I could use mv instead of rsync, but at some point of the copy, wouldn't it break the system? |
| 00:42.08 | gustavohmsilva_ | live as live-cd? |
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| 00:43.09 | istrive | does the mail tool in debian sends email to regular email address instead of the system user only? |
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| 00:44.15 | somiaj | istrive: what mail tool are you talking about? The default mail server in debian is exim and can be set up to be local only or actually be an mail server and send/recive email to/from other systems |
| 00:44.40 | istrive | the buit-in mail |
| 00:45.10 | somiaj | what do you mean by built-in mail? Debian offers lots of different mail servers and mail clients. |
| 00:45.22 | somiaj | you mean the command line 'mail' which is really mailx? |
| 00:46.18 | somiaj | seems /usr/bin/mail -> /etc/alternatives/mail -> <whatever that alternative is set to> |
| 00:46.40 | somiaj | on my jessie system this points to bsd-mailx |
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| 00:50.25 | istrive | how to setup the mail or any other tool to send alerts to regular email after a crontab executes? |
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| 00:52.33 | somiaj | istrive: so you want to be emailed everytime a cronjob is run (this sometimes happens every 30mins or even shorter) |
| 00:53.33 | istrive | smoiaj once every 2 days... |
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| 00:54.17 | istrive | somiaj once every 2 days |
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| 00:54.37 | somiaj | istrive: so for a paticular cron job you want to be emailed about? There are various ways, one is to write a script that both sends mail (bsd-mailx can do this) and then does what ever the job you need does |
| 00:54.44 | somiaj | I don't know the cli info well enough to be of much more help though |
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| 00:55.23 | somiaj | istrive: man mailx (try to figure how to first send mail from a script) |
| 00:56.23 | istrive | somiaj my /etc/crontab has the schedule, I have the mails to my user accunt that I look wit mutt, but It would be nice to get the email from my email@domain.com |
| 00:56.47 | somiaj | istrive: instead of what root@localhost? |
| 00:57.24 | istrive | somiaj i want to user and external account from my ISP (1and1.com) |
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| 01:00.54 | somiaj | istrive: I guess I don't quite follow you. You want these emails to go to your normal email account at 1and1.com and not to your server, which you have to look at with mutt? |
| 01:01.43 | istrive | I can go to both, but my priority would be an external email! |
| 01:02.36 | somiaj | istrive: I think you can set up a .forward file in $HOME that lists your outside email address. Provided your server is correctly configured to send mail, that should send any mail it recives to the external email address |
| 01:02.51 | istrive | somiaj I can go to both, but my priority would be an external email! it would make my life way easier to check the status of the backups from my phone... |
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| 01:03.29 | somiaj | this way just forward all email to your external email address. You could also look at the script itself and see if you can configure which email address it sends to. In either case you need to have set up an SMTP server (either on your machien or as a relay) |
| 01:03.40 | istrive | somiaj I don't have it configured, that's why I'm here asking for help! ;) |
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| 01:04.53 | somiaj | istrive: on your isp/network, are you allowed to send your own email or do you need to your email through a relay? |
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| 01:09.32 | istrive | somiaj it can send fine, no need for relay! |
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| 01:12.33 | somiaj | istrive: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config should allow you to select an internet site option |
| 01:12.40 | somiaj | or you can look at the config files for exim 4 |
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| 01:36.53 | Rachel | Hey! :) |
| 01:37.08 | gry | hi :) |
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| 01:38.35 | Guest58162 | This is neat ( ; Where is everyone from ? |
| 01:38.52 | ByteMeee | hi :) |
| 01:39.02 | missmbob | Guest58162: this isn't a social channel. please keep discussion to support. there is #debian-offtopic for social |
| 01:39.03 | Guest58162 | Byteme, lol. |
| 01:40.18 | teus | i cant believe it |
| 01:40.22 | teus | installed all pepperflash stuff |
| 01:40.38 | teus | the .so file isnt anywhere and now it even broke firefox's ability to play flash |
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| 01:40.56 | ByteMeee | do y'all think it's reasonable to run linux on 4 gigs of RAM |
| 01:41.31 | teus | of course |
| 01:41.35 | th0r | ByteMeee, I run it on a laptop with 2 |
| 01:42.02 | th0r | ByteMeee, and at present I am running raspbian on a pi3 with only 1 |
| 01:42.09 | teus | fucking piece of shit flash |
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| 01:42.31 | th0r | and the ignore list grows again |
| 01:42.39 | teus | fuck off |
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| 01:43.19 | ByteMeee | ugh ok bc I need a new windows machine to boot Kali off of and I want the price to be low |
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| 01:44.32 | somiaj | ByteMeee: allthough it will be fine, you should ask kali what sort of system requriements they have for the desktop setup. |
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| 01:47.34 | ByteMeee | somiaj: their min requirements are 512MB ram so I think we're good |
| 01:48.07 | th0r | ByteMeee, if I am not mistaken there is a kali install for the raspberry pi, so requirements can't be too harsh |
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| 02:30.14 | ranix | !list |
| 02:30.14 | dpkg | ranix: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 02:48.15 | Kaizen_ | *offf-topic* does somebody knows some irc channel where I can ask about spreads (trading)? thanks, and sorry for the really big off-topic (I have searched the channel s list and there s no #trading channel) |
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| 02:49.49 | _44trent_ | so is it just me, or is there no more catalyst legacy in debian 8? |
| 02:50.06 | missmbob | Kaizen_: go to #debian-offtopic is you want to be offtopic |
| 02:50.28 | _44trent_ | i have an older laptopp GPU that just has awful performance without the fglrx legacy driver. |
| 02:50.37 | _44trent_ | am i stuck with Debian 7... |
| 02:51.14 | morf | Kaizen_: it's offtopic, but there is big channel called #stocks @ efnet (also search google for most visited irc channels there will be more) |
| 02:51.15 | Kaizen_ | missmbob, thanks and sorry |
| 02:51.27 | Kaizen_ | morf, thanks too |
| 02:52.24 | _44trent_ | yeah...I think i'm screwed |
| 02:52.50 | surfist | maybe compile up something? |
| 02:53.15 | _44trent_ | can't, it's the proprietary fglrx legacy driver |
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| 02:53.32 | _44trent_ | and i'm not using the AMD supplied installer, those just break everything |
| 02:53.33 | Kaizen_ | _44trent_, iis it a miniPCIe card? |
| 02:54.12 | _44trent_ | the gpu is an MXM mobility radeon hd 2600 |
| 02:54.35 | _44trent_ | it runs with the OSS drivers, problem is I can't get decent performance then |
| 02:54.39 | _44trent_ | at all |
| 02:54.47 | surfist | https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary ? |
| 02:55.02 | _44trent_ | see the thing is the legacy one is only for Wheezy |
| 02:55.42 | _44trent_ | and i'm not using wheezy, as the packages will be terribly outdated |
| 02:55.42 | surfist | debian 7 is wheezy |
| 02:55.52 | _44trent_ | yes, the legacy driver is only for debian 7 |
| 02:56.07 | surfist | old laptop newer OS? |
| 02:56.15 | _44trent_ | https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#AMD_Catalyst_Legacy_13.1 |
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| 02:56.42 | _44trent_ | yeah my laptop is old, i figure installing debian would make it run better, except the part where i'll have awful graphics performance |
| 02:57.12 | _44trent_ | and i'd really not want to use old stable packages from like 2013 |
| 03:00.05 | surfist | I suppose some die hards have done it... the trick is finding the info |
| 03:00.22 | surfist | personally.. I'm looking for old kernel headers for dkms to have it's fun |
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| 03:00.39 | morf | laptops gpus pretty much always sucks |
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| 03:00.50 | morf | and those gaming laptops are just bad joke to me |
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| 03:01.16 | pingfloyd | gaming is a joke |
| 03:01.16 | _44trent_ | they are getting the desktop cards in high end laptops |
| 03:01.25 | _44trent_ | it's not worth it tho |
| 03:01.49 | _44trent_ | i have a "gaming" motherboard on my desktop, whatever that means |
| 03:01.58 | pingfloyd | gaming hasn't had much breakthrough in the last 2 decades |
| 03:02.12 | jmcnaught | _44trent_: do you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
| 03:02.21 | surfist | first you get a soldering iron.. then some chip diagrams... nm |
| 03:02.24 | pingfloyd | same old thing with better graphics to get you to buy new hardware |
| 03:02.30 | _44trent_ | I... |
| 03:02.35 | _44trent_ | didn't even know that existed |
| 03:02.40 | _44trent_ | excuse me while I facepalm |
| 03:03.07 | _44trent_ | so if i install that firmware will I get better performance |
| 03:03.30 | jmcnaught | _44trent_: in many cases yes: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 03:03.37 | pingfloyd | usually firmware is more of a matter of getting the hardware working |
| 03:03.56 | _44trent_ | yeah i'm just trying to get better performance in videos and minecraft... |
| 03:04.05 | pingfloyd | like hardware doesn't work properly because you don't have the needed firmware installed |
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| 03:04.41 | pingfloyd | for gaming, usually the proprietary video drivers give better performance, but they're also a can of worms |
| 03:05.07 | _44trent_ | and also minecraft is more CPU bound in my experiences, so i'm sure the open source will suffice, given i have the firmware |
| 03:05.23 | pingfloyd | if the manufacturers would get their act together about supporting open source, it wouldn't be such a dilemma |
| 03:05.36 | _44trent_ | i heard AMDGPU is doing pretty good |
| 03:05.47 | _44trent_ | vulkan doesn't work without the proprietary version though |
| 03:05.48 | pingfloyd | yeah, amd has gotten better about that over time |
| 03:06.09 | _44trent_ | i'm guessing by linuux 4.10 AMDGPU will be enabled for GCN 1.1 and above |
| 03:06.36 | _44trent_ | right now I need to recompile my kernel to get AMDGPU with my R9 390 on my desktop |
| 03:06.48 | pingfloyd | the only reason amd looks like saints on that front is because nvidia is so flippant about it |
| 03:06.55 | _44trent_ | of course |
| 03:07.27 | _44trent_ | but at least AMDGPU works quite better then radeon |
| 03:08.13 | _44trent_ | even if my 390 doesn't work with it without recompiling my kernel... |
| 03:08.43 | _44trent_ | and is completely nonexistent for my old laptop |
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| 03:43.25 | o|0_0|v_Peace | If you apt-get gcc-4.9-base where does the binary end up? |
| 03:47.07 | missmbob | o|0_0|v_Peace: dpkg -L foo |grep bin |
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| 03:49.59 | themill | assuming you actually installed the package |
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| 04:23.37 | Racha | I'm having a problem with GRUB, how do I list all the menu entries that would be shown at bootup but just listing it from the commandline? |
| 04:25.03 | somiaj | Racha: you can look at the actual config files that are generated in /boot |
| 04:25.27 | Racha | yeah, but I can't get the index number of the menu items |
| 04:25.48 | somiaj | they just go in order, y ou ahve to count (I don't know of a tool that lists them nicely) |
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| 04:26.31 | awal1 | Racha, try with this awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 04:27.48 | Racha | interesting, that gave me a list of 13 items |
| 04:28.19 | somiaj | Racha: what version of debian are you running? |
| 04:29.38 | Racha | testing, i686 ... I'm setting up multiarch and put the 64-kernel on the machine, and now I want it to boot up off of that new kernel. The machine is a VPS that's hosted at my webhost, so I cannot see the boot menu |
| 04:30.19 | somiaj | Racha: you most likely have lots of older kernels installed, dpkg -l | grep linux-image (i'd reove the older kernels you aren't using anymore) |
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| 04:30.39 | awal1 | Racha, the multiple entries are maybe old kernels? |
| 04:32.18 | awal1 | Racha, apt-get should remove old kernels with autoremove option |
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| 04:32.59 | awal1 | but it should keep the previous one (current + previous) if any |
| 04:33.09 | Racha | it's only 3 kernels on the system, but it's listing 4 options per kernel including:sysvinit,systemd,recoverymode |
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| 04:34.50 | awal1 | Racha, I guess you have dist-upgraded from jessie to stretch? |
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| 04:35.11 | Racha | yes, I keep testing pretty up to date |
| 04:35.36 | Racha | I'm currently on this: Linux 4.7.0-1-686-pae on i686 |
| 04:36.12 | awal1 | btw, what's your real problem/question? |
| 04:36.15 | awal1 | :D |
| 04:36.19 | Racha | Trying to use this: Linux 4.7.0-1-amd64 |
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| 04:36.35 | Racha | I'm converting to 64-bit from 32 |
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| 04:37.36 | missmbob | you realize a 64-bit kernel wont make your userland 64-bit? |
| 04:37.53 | jmcnaught | !crossgrade |
| 04:37.53 | dpkg | Converting an i386 installation into an amd64 installation in-place is quite difficult. It's much easier to reinstall the system with the new architecture -- ask me about <install debian>. If you've got good backups, plenty of time and are feeling lucky, you can try https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading but really... good backups... |
| 04:38.06 | Racha | I already got the kernel installed, I just need the machine to automatically boot off of the new kernel, and I can't guesss at the "default index" that grub uses, because I don't want it going into memtest or recovery mode. I need the specific grub menu item index for that kernel |
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| 04:39.00 | Racha | I will be installing the 64-bit packages after booting up in 64-bit |
| 04:39.42 | Racha | I have 1 VPS, and that's it. so my options is to up/crossgrade |
| 04:39.51 | Pwnna | so what are files like 81b9768f.0 in /etc/ssl/certs? |
| 04:39.53 | missmbob | i'd choose reinstall |
| 04:41.17 | Jame57 | I'd re-install too |
| 04:41.25 | Racha | cant reinstall |
| 04:41.28 | jmcnaught | Racha: Check the instructions on that CrossGrading wiki page ^^. also stretch support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, but you should really be running debian stable if it's an internet connected server |
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| 04:42.11 | jmcnaught | Racha: you might have to accept some downtime. you have backups right? |
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| 04:42.18 | Pwnna | and how come one of my machine doesn't have it? (and also giving me a bunch of certificate errors everywhere) |
| 04:42.51 | jmcnaught | Pwnna: what command is giving you the errors? can we see the command and output on http://paste.debian.net/ ? |
| 04:42.58 | Jame57 | Racha, your running a system you can't re-install and not running stable...... fail |
| 04:43.04 | awal1 | Racha: if your amd64 kernel is the,say, 3d line/the 3d listed by grub and the command I gave you, just put 2 in the corresponding line in grub file (/etc/default/grub ---» GRUBDEFAULT=2 ). If that what you was asking |
| 04:43.17 | Racha | no bakcups, I don't need the lecture on backups, at work I keep months of nightly backups, this is my own personal server for testing stuff out |
| 04:43.23 | Pwnna | jmcnaught: sure. one sec. |
| 04:43.33 | awal1 | but as missmbob told you, reinstalling is easiest and secure |
| 04:43.55 | Racha | awal1: That is what I'm asking thanks |
| 04:44.04 | Pwnna | jmcnaught: https://paste.debian.net/886450/ |
| 04:44.25 | Pwnna | $ ls -l /etc/ssl/certs | wc -l ==> 176 |
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| 04:44.39 | awal1 | Racha, GRUB_DEFAULT=2 |
| 04:44.47 | awal1 | first line = 0 |
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| 04:45.17 | Pwnna | on a server where i don't have this problem (their setup is not too different), I have >500 in that folder that's populated by a bunch of symlinks from names like 81b9768f.0 to named certificates in that directory |
| 04:45.53 | jmcnaught | Pwnna: do you have ca-certificates package installed? |
| 04:45.55 | Racha | this was the output of that command: https://paste.debian.net/plain/886451 |
| 04:46.08 | Pwnna | jmcnaught: yes. ca-certificates: |
| 04:46.08 | Pwnna | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.53 | Pwnna | i tried dpkg-reconfigure that package as well as a straight up install --reinstall with no solution |
| 04:47.25 | jmcnaught | Pwnna: are the certificates in /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla ? |
| 04:47.39 | tatalazo | j/ #android,#android-dev,#android-offtopic,#debian-offtopic |
| 04:47.44 | Pwnna | $ ls -l /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/ | wc -l |
| 04:47.44 | Pwnna | 174 |
| 04:48.13 | Pwnna | those two numbers are the same from both of my servers ( one working one not working) |
| 04:48.27 | Pwnna | are the files like 81b9768f.0 a red herring? |
| 04:48.31 | awal1 | Racha, 2 was just a guess, but effectivly it's 2 in your case, regarding the paste : Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.7.0-1-amd64 |
| 04:48.49 | Pwnna | a quick search didn't seem to find anything |
| 04:49.04 | jmcnaught | Pwnna: you should have the symlinks in /etc/ssl/certs. Look at update-ca-certiticates(8) |
| 04:49.25 | jelly | Pwnna: run "update-ca-certificates" on the system where openssl's hash symlinks are missing |
| 04:49.25 | Pwnna | jmcnaught: which symlinks? the hash.0 files or the Verisign_Class_3_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority.pem -> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Verisign_Class_3_Public_Primary_Certification_Authority.crt |
| 04:49.31 | Pwnna | hmm |
| 04:49.36 | Racha | awal1: oh, I thought I needed line #6 so I put in 5 as my choice, but I still have the grub file open |
| 04:49.39 | Pwnna | i did that earlier but it didn't generate them? |
| 04:50.02 | Pwnna | Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs... 0 added, 0 removed; done. |
| 04:50.03 | Pwnna | Running hooks in /etc/ca-certificates/update.d....done. |
| 04:50.14 | Pwnna | ls -l /etc/ssl/certs | wc -l |
| 04:50.14 | Pwnna | 176 |
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| 04:50.31 | Pwnna | should i try the --fresh option? |
| 04:50.43 | awal1 | Racha, Debian GNU/Linux will boot Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.7.0-1-686-pae . Second line should be Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.7.0-1-686-pae (recovery mode) . The third one Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.7.0-1-amd64 (the one you want as you said |
| 04:51.12 | awal1 | so 2 for grub_default |
| 04:51.46 | awal1 | try it and check if correct with uname -a |
| 04:52.13 | awal1 | after booting the machine ^ |
| 04:52.27 | Pwnna | hmm...well that seems to have done the trick.. |
| 04:52.40 | Pwnna | jelly, jmcnaught: do you guys know what could have caused this so i can document this for the future, |
| 04:53.20 | jelly | not really |
| 04:53.34 | Pwnna | so it worked with --fresh but not anything else |
| 04:53.37 | Pwnna | ...bug? |
| 04:53.47 | jmcnaught | Pwnna: another sysadmin? software installed from non Debian sources? |
| 04:53.56 | Pwnna | i'm the only sysadmin |
| 04:54.05 | Pwnna | the software are fairly controlled.. but that's possible? |
| 04:54.11 | Pwnna | what are the hashed names anyway? |
| 04:54.18 | Pwnna | like are there documentations on them i can read/link about? |
| 04:54.58 | awal1 | Racha, I guess sysvinit/systemd entries are like "residues" of jessie install. with a fresh strech / sid install you will not have those entries |
| 04:55.38 | jmcnaught | Pwnna: c_rehash(1) is mentioned by the update-ca-certificates man page |
| 04:55.41 | jelly | Pwnna: no idea about that either, but do a web search for something like: openssl CApath hash |
| 04:56.01 | Racha | awal1: ok, I will try that, thank you |
| 04:56.36 | Racha | now, I don't use sid, I just use testing for my apt repos |
| 04:56.37 | Pwnna | thank you to the both of you :) |
| 04:56.40 | Pwnna | it was very helpful |
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| 04:58.21 | Racha | no luck, I just rebooted, and it's still on the i686 kernel |
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| 05:01.09 | awal1 | Racha, have you executed update-grub after making change sto the file? |
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| 05:01.26 | Racha | yeah, I ran that after making the change |
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| 05:07.17 | awal1 | Racha, it boots with 3.16 amd64 ? |
| 05:08.04 | Racha | no, this: Linux alpha 4.7.0-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.7.6-1 (2016-10-07) i686 GNU/Linux |
| 05:08.25 | missmbob | you should really upgrade that kernel |
| 05:08.37 | AlexLikeRock | www.debian.org |
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| 05:09.22 | awal1 | Racha, I meant choosing it as default (4) in that grub file |
| 05:10.03 | Racha | oh, no, that is after choosing 2 as the grub_default |
| 05:10.15 | missmbob | Racha: you know you're vulvernable to a really bad kernel bug right now, right? |
| 05:10.46 | missmbob | Racha: plus why are you in here with a testing kernel? you should be in #debian-next on OFTC |
| 05:10.54 | Racha | missmbob: on kernel 4.7.6-1? |
| 05:11.09 | missmbob | Racha: yes |
| 05:11.59 | missmbob | Racha: that's why using testing can be very dangerous and not too smart. it doesn't get security support. so you're vulnerable to this right now https://it.slashdot.org/story/16/10/21/1534232/most-serious-linux-privilege-escalation-bug-ever-is-under-active-exploit |
| 05:12.07 | Racha | missmbob: because this was the first debian group I guessed at, and I figured grub issues would work in any linux based group that uses grub |
| 05:12.36 | missmbob | Racha: that's not right. stable grub and testing grub are different. as are kernels. you should go to the right place |
| 05:14.00 | awal1 | Racha, in fact, testing/unstable support is in #debian-next channel. possibly your migration from i386 to amd64 haven't been successful and your amd64 kernels broken, so grub boots to the good/default/firts/original one |
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| 05:15.53 | Racha | is that bug already patched in the kernel? on kernel.org? |
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| 05:16.09 | missmbob | Racha: yes. it's even already patched in sid. not testing though. have to wait days for testing |
| 05:16.22 | missmbob | Racha: the people on #debian-next on OFTC will school you on testing/sid. not here please |
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| 05:16.55 | Racha | I asked if it was in kernel.org |
| 05:17.03 | missmbob | and the answer was yes |
| 05:17.15 | Racha | thanks |
| 05:17.52 | missmbob | listening is tough |
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| 05:19.17 | awal1 | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-5195 |
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| 05:50.51 | Droid02x | hey everyone |
| 05:51.07 | AlexLikeRock | hi Droid02x |
| 05:51.09 | AlexLikeRock | welcome |
| 05:51.36 | Droid02x | Hi AlexLikeRock and thank you |
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| 05:52.51 | Droid02x | I'm wondering, does anyone here use 1and1? For their shared hosting and or Cloud Server? |
| 05:53.37 | missmbob | Droid02x: more suited for #debian-offtopic |
| 05:54.27 | Droid02x | missmbob; i apologize, havent been on irc in ages and wasnt sure where to go... I appreciate the suggestion! |
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| 06:52.49 | Agafnd | would it be a bad idea to install an unofficial deb provided by the authors of a program, if said program is not in the official repositories? |
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| 06:53.05 | Agafnd | for example, qupzilla |
| 06:53.55 | missmbob | depends |
| 06:54.02 | missmbob | !tell Agafnd about dont break deebian |
| 06:54.05 | missmbob | !tell Agafnd about dont break debian |
| 06:54.22 | missmbob | Agafnd: but usually it's a bad idea since most unofficial repos are for ubuntu, not debian |
| 06:54.41 | AlexLikeRock | what its the difference qupzilla V S Mozilla Firefox ? |
| 06:55.24 | Agafnd | well, qupzilla does have a debian build |
| 06:55.31 | NoCode | https://wiki.debian.org/SSH#Configuration_Options "Steps to keep SSH connection alive" #1 = blank |
| 06:55.47 | AlexLikeRock | difference qupzilla VS firefox ? |
| 06:56.09 | missmbob | AlexLikeRock: a lot. qupzilla uses chromium's engine and is qt |
| 06:56.26 | AlexLikeRock | bad idea |
| 06:56.38 | AlexLikeRock | chromium , only for 64 bit |
| 06:56.53 | AlexLikeRock | chromium, are BAD GUY |
| 06:56.59 | missmbob | not true. chromium runs on 32. chrome doesnt |
| 06:57.01 | AlexLikeRock | they spy us |
| 06:57.44 | Agafnd | What I was really wondering is, if I did install an unofficial deb, how would I uninstall it? |
| 06:57.58 | missmbob | same way. dpkg --purge or apt remove |
| 06:58.41 | Agafnd | oh, I didn't know that worked |
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| 06:59.15 | AlexLikeRock | Agafnd, take a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jihs3ldGu9k |
| 07:00.01 | AlexLikeRock | missmbob, you now, chrome NOT RUN, chromium depend of chrome, they go to DEAD too !!! |
| 07:01.14 | Agafnd | AlexLikeRock: sure, I use Firefox (or rather IceWeasel) but thought Qupzilla would be interesting to try |
| 07:02.09 | Agafnd | or IceCat :) |
| 07:02.33 | AlexLikeRock | thats better , ICECAT |
| 07:02.44 | AlexLikeRock | Free Softeware |
| 07:02.51 | AlexLikeRock | software |
| 07:02.53 | Agafnd | or sometimes Tor Browser |
| 07:03.02 | AlexLikeRock | gnu.org |
| 07:03.25 | mrrhq | I personally compile from git repos or use AppImages if they're available. You can install debs with dpkg -i and remove them with dpkg -r |
| 07:03.43 | Agafnd | Yeah, I like AppImages |
| 07:04.09 | mrrhq | The thing is it's a bad idea and it might cause conflicts later. |
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| 07:41.22 | danke | i answered this yesterday http://superuser.com/questions/1056004/why-cant-i-sign-into-the-google-services-using-the-epiphany-browser |
| 07:41.38 | danke | just thought i'd share it here in case someone has any better input than me |
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| 07:42.16 | gebruiker | Just glad to know I am using chrome |
| 07:42.18 | gebruiker | :) |
| 07:42.26 | krrishg | I am using Chrome :D |
| 07:43.40 | spygrid | like google supports any other distro besides debian |
| 07:43.41 | danke | yeah, same. i really like the epiphany interface though, so unclutered. i think i'd use it if it was supported |
| 07:44.07 | danke | i'm using chromium... google supports debian? |
| 07:44.30 | spygrid | only the latest debian 8 |
| 07:45.18 | aZz7eCh | should this be this hard? debian stable 2x wifi. my primary is working of course.. but i add a 2nd wifi adapter, lsusb shows it once inserted, yet I dont seem to be able to make use of it through gnome by default? |
| 07:47.38 | gebruiker | aZz7eCh: Any logs that report something worthwhile to work with? |
| 07:49.54 | aZz7eCh | well i can show you the card not inserted with lsusb, then once it is inserted with lsusb ... but after that ... i'm lost. not much to show you |
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| 07:50.12 | aZz7eCh | card = usb wifi adapter rather* |
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| 07:52.19 | at0m | aZz7eCh: lsusb doesn't say if, for example the firmware is loaded. run as root: iw list with the stick inserted, or while inserting, tail -f /var/log/dmesg |
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| 07:53.21 | aZz7eCh | http://pastebin.com/7cDCEnik |
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| 07:55.20 | at0m | aZz7eCh: only shows phy0, not the second adapter? |
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| 07:55.34 | at0m | what does lsusb show for it? |
| 07:55.46 | at0m | maybe you need to install firmware |
| 07:56.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, that's strange. chromium reports an invalid certificate with net::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID for net::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID ⦠now after a day I decided to check in firefox and that doesn't complain about the certificate |
| 07:56.33 | aZz7eCh | at0m, before and after LSUSB = http://pastebin.com/vduVJYKU |
| 07:56.38 | at0m | CutMeOwnThroat: chromium doesn't seem to have that cert authority? |
| 07:57.54 | aZz7eCh | at0m, okay having a play with firmware now |
| 07:58.02 | at0m | aZz7eCh: apt install firmware-misc-nonfree has ralink firmware |
| 07:58.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah. but chromium's way of displaying the certificate chain doesn't really seem to tell me anything |
| 07:58.54 | at0m | aZz7eCh: doesn't mean your specific device is covered, but without it, the device probably won't show in iw list |
| 07:59.23 | aZz7eCh | gonna reboot - installed the ra from repos but iw still doesn't show it yet |
| 07:59.26 | at0m | CutMeOwnThroat: manually check the cert and its auth? |
| 07:59.35 | at0m | aZz7eCh: no need to reboot |
| 07:59.38 | aZz7eCh | oh |
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| 07:59.42 | at0m | just re-plug it afaik |
| 07:59.49 | aZz7eCh | yea i just did |
| 07:59.50 | at0m | then iw list again |
| 07:59.52 | at0m | hmmm |
| 07:59.53 | aZz7eCh | but iw list looks abotu the same |
| 08:00.01 | at0m | no phy1 eh |
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| 08:00.16 | aZz7eCh | not that i can say |
| 08:00.23 | aZz7eCh | see |
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| 08:00.34 | at0m | iw list | grep phy |
| 08:00.55 | aZz7eCh | yea just 0 |
| 08:00.58 | aZz7eCh | let me reboot brb |
| 08:01.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmh, actually firefox and chromium both show the same root authority 'G2' with the same serial |
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| 08:03.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | firefox says that's built in⦠chromium doesn't say that⦠maybe that's it |
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| 08:05.11 | aZz7eCh | okay so at0m .. i have changed to another usb adapter ... realtek one ... |
| 08:07.42 | aZz7eCh | lol cant even get firmware for this realtek one... Gah. |
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| 08:10.35 | spygrid | debian hates firmware |
| 08:10.46 | gebruiker | aZz7eCh: installed the firmware nonfree? |
| 08:11.30 | aZz7eCh | realtek ones yeah ... but its the same as the previous card... however, the realtek install did show a couple of errors im not sure about: http://pastebin.com/YEEGySs3 |
| 08:11.47 | aZz7eCh | is it even possible to connect to two wifi networks at the same time or am i dreaming ? |
| 08:11.56 | aZz7eCh | this all seems way too difficult for such a simple task |
| 08:11.58 | at0m | https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb |
| 08:12.16 | aZz7eCh | Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter |
| 08:12.21 | aZz7eCh | not included in that list at0m |
| 08:12.21 | aZz7eCh | ' |
| 08:12.45 | aZz7eCh | oh sorry - thats the Ralink you're still linking me ? |
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| 08:13.12 | at0m | realtek? 148f:7601 points to ralink yea |
| 08:13.23 | at0m | (the usb id) |
| 08:13.34 | aZz7eCh | yeah i moved on from the Ralink |
| 08:13.40 | aZz7eCh | i did install the ralink firmware that went fine |
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| 08:14.00 | aZz7eCh | this i'm talking about now is a realtek adapter (diff one) .. link above shows the errros/missing firmware |
| 08:14.29 | aZz7eCh | but srsly... this has already eaten out 4 hours of my day ... i just figured i may be missing something simple |
| 08:14.33 | aZz7eCh | if its this hard, forget it |
| 08:14.46 | aZz7eCh | 2 wifi adapters ... impossible to get either working :/ |
| 08:15.17 | spygrid | aZz7eCh, same problem on my laptop, debian won't supply firmware for ETHERNET |
| 08:15.34 | spygrid | its like the whole world went mad |
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| 08:15.44 | julius_ | hi |
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| 08:16.08 | julius_ | im trying to copy a windows 7 iso to a ntfs filesystem in linux, how do i copy this: rsync: read errors mapping "/home/julius/tmp/sources/$oem$/$$/Setup/Scripts/Keys.ini": Input/output error (5) ? |
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| 08:24.16 | at0m | julius_: are you sure you aren't copying the .iso contents instead of the .iso? |
| 08:24.28 | julius_ | i am copying the contents |
| 08:24.49 | julius_ | so far thats the only howto i found that looks like it might work |
| 08:24.53 | julius_ | others have failed |
| 08:25.14 | julius_ | different .iso file does work though, maybe this one is really damaged |
| 08:25.14 | spygrid | ntfs doesn't like $, and they included $ on the ISO ? How stupid |
| 08:25.33 | at0m | MS shooting itself in the foot. how odd. |
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| 08:26.51 | at0m | julius_: that's not damaged, that's a feature ;p try "dd if=/dev/sr0 (if that's your dvd/cdrom) of=/home/julius/tmp/dvd.iso |
| 08:27.04 | at0m | if that works, there's nothing wrong with the dvd or iso |
| 08:27.17 | julius_ | did that, pc skips the device on boot |
| 08:27.27 | julius_ | wait, i added a bs=4MB...is that bad? |
| 08:28.21 | julius_ | indeed, the iso that worked when copying does not contain the string $ in filenames |
| 08:29.28 | julius_ | great, now grub acts up.... disk with multiple partition labels. This is not supported yet.. |
| 08:29.39 | julius_ | i just want to make a bootable usb stick...how hard can it be |
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| 08:30.01 | aZz7eCh | cant be as hard as making a usb wifi adapter work |
| 08:30.03 | aZz7eCh | lol |
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| 08:38.14 | julius_ | what about if i install a virtualbox, create a windows in there, use a windows tool...would it be able to create a boot stick? |
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| 08:38.37 | aZz7eCh | yep. use rufus in windows |
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| 08:39.32 | julius_ | got no real windows box :( |
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| 08:40.28 | aZz7eCh | i use windows in a virutalbox to create boot disks. eveyr linux method under the sun i've ever tried, fails to make it bootable, every time. in the end .. vbox just for windows so i can install rufus for making boot disks. |
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| 08:40.45 | julius_ | ah nice |
| 08:40.46 | julius_ | thanks |
| 08:40.59 | aZz7eCh | you will need to also install vbox guest additions so that you can use the usb stick in the virtualmachine |
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| 08:41.16 | julius_ | yeah that was comming up from supressed memories |
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| 08:42.00 | julius_ | anyway, im gonna go for a ride with my bike first |
| 08:42.02 | julius_ | see you later |
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| 09:08.11 | ByteStorm | aZz7eCh, buy your hardware from here ---> https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en |
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| 09:08.55 | aZz7eCh | o0 why there? |
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| 09:09.59 | ByteStorm | well,the drivers of these hardwares are proved to work with debian...tht is,there are drivers for all these hardwares in debian |
| 09:10.06 | ByteStorm | ask TomTomTosch |
| 09:10.38 | aZz7eCh | unfortunately i need shit to work with real world equip |
| 09:11.06 | aZz7eCh | the usb adapters and 70 machines in remote locations, already exist. |
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| 09:13.52 | at0m | one of my machines hangs on boot fsck, because a previous dirty partition/disk is no longer present. 'Ctrl-D to continue or login as root to fix'. anyone know where i can remove that partition from fsck's schedule? |
| 09:14.17 | ByteStorm | fstab?? |
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| 09:15.38 | at0m | removed it from fstab, indeed, rebooting to check... |
| 09:16.15 | ByteStorm | cool |
| 09:16.36 | at0m | ByteStorm: 2 internets to you, fixed it :)) |
| 09:17.13 | at0m | how hard could it be :D was going through /var/lib to see if fsck had anything there etc |
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| 09:17.55 | ByteStorm | i thought...thank god im learning now :D |
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| 09:26.09 | spygrid | anyone have problems with libcurl-dev on Debian 7.11 ? I can't successfully link to libcurl correctly. Yet works fine in Debian 8 |
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| 09:34.06 | spygrid | http://pastebin.com/tDCfA1bk |
| 09:34.47 | spygrid | curl libs are detected by configure, make menuselect I am able to verify curl libs are found. Yet, CURL function missing |
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| 09:35.36 | spygrid | I spent almost 80 hours trying to get this working |
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| 09:38.19 | TomTomTosch | spygrid: did you come across this? http://forums.asterisk.org/viewtopic.php?p=126497 the user seems to have a similar problem. |
| 09:38.35 | TomTomTosch | or rather two users with two solutions. |
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| 09:43.44 | spygrid | TomTomTosch, yes, I did see that one. Thanks |
| 09:44.41 | spygrid | I wonder why Asterisk went from version 1.8 to 10 |
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| 09:46.11 | no_gravity | How can a script get the external ip of the machine it runs on? |
| 09:46.28 | no_gravity | I see it in ifconfig but parsing that might be fragile. |
| 09:47.47 | no_gravity | I don't mean the internet ip. I mean the lan ip. So using a webservice won't work. |
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| 09:49.20 | TomTomTosch | hostname -I |
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| 09:56.10 | no_gravity | irc is so unstable... |
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| 09:56.22 | hexnewbie | I presume there's no way to purge âlinux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64â without making âlinux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsignedâ unbootable, or even without removing the latter completely? |
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| 09:57.11 | hexnewbie | Purge failed because it failed to rmdir â/lib/modules/4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64/â, and then I had to reinstall the unsigned kernel, because it didn't find any modules |
| 09:57.28 | spygrid | no_gravity, irc survived todays DDOS attack |
| 09:57.49 | no_gravity | spygrid: was there one? link? |
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| 09:58.14 | spygrid | http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/22/business/internet-problems-attack.html?_r=0 |
| 09:58.22 | no_gravity | spygrid: everytime my inet connection hickups, my irc connection gets lost and i have to reconnect / ghost / reauthenticate. |
| 09:58.34 | hexnewbie | no_gravity: They knocked out the âwholeâ Internet (at least what the world considers Internet nowadays), and you need a link? But I guess that's off-topic. |
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| 09:59.11 | no_gravity | hexnewbie: Only thing I noticed it that someone from the us said the dns for github did not resolv for him yesterday. |
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| 09:59.50 | spygrid | no_gravity: what type of router / firewall do you have? |
| 10:00.09 | no_gravity | spygrid: why? |
| 10:00.46 | planetmaker | well, github also seemd transiently offline yesterday from Europe |
| 10:00.55 | spygrid | no_gravity: there is lot of junk routers, some routers can break 1935 traffic |
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| 10:01.33 | no_gravity | spygrid: I lost the thread... what are we talking about? |
| 10:01.55 | no_gravity | Personally I try to figure out a good way how a script can figure out the lan ip of the machine it runs on. |
| 10:02.20 | hexnewbie | no_gravity: That very much depends on how you define âLAN IPâ |
| 10:02.24 | TomTomTosch | no_gravity: hostname -I |
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| 10:03.11 | no_gravity | TomTomTosch: That give me 127.0.0.1 |
| 10:03.29 | no_gravity | hexnewbie: The ip the machine got assigned by the router. |
| 10:03.33 | TomTomTosch | with a capital I ? |
| 10:03.46 | no_gravity | TomTomTosch: YOU BLOODY GENIUS! |
| 10:03.53 | TomTomTosch | ^^ |
| 10:04.52 | hexnewbie | no_gravity: -I returns all assigned addresses, and if there are several ones, I don't know how you'd tell which is the LAN IP |
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| 10:05.55 | no_gravity | hexnewbie: I'll figure that out when it breaks. |
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| 10:06.26 | hexnewbie | If I wanted to get the IP I access the Internet through, I'd abuse routing to Google DNS, and try: ip r get 8.8.8.8 | egrep -o 'src \S+' | awk '{ print $2 }' |
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| 10:08.01 | no_gravity | "hostname -I" seems to append a space character or somthing. |
| 10:08.10 | no_gravity | ip=`hostname -I` |
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| 10:08.23 | no_gravity | ^ now how do I get rid of the space character? |
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| 10:12.43 | no_gravity | ip=`hostname -I | grep -Eo [0-9.]+` |
| 10:12.45 | no_gravity | That works(tm)!! |
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| 10:19.06 | lexa_ | hi all |
| 10:19.14 | lexa_ | help install driver ati |
| 10:19.44 | at0m | !ati |
| 10:19.45 | dpkg | Where possible, most ATI/AMD graphics processing units are supported using the open source "radeon" driver on Debian systems by default, ask me about <radeon>. To install the proprietary "fglrx" driver, ask me about <fglrx>; installing this directly from amd.com (i.e. with the AMD Catalyst installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 10:20.32 | lexa_ | fglrx virus repo delete is kde-desk |
| 10:20.37 | lexa_ | help |
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| 10:20.57 | lexa_ | trisqel |
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| 10:21.38 | lexa_ | Linux lexa-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M 3.13.0-100-lowlatency #147+7.0trisquel2 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 20 10:47:19 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:21.56 | lexa_ | glxgears |
| 10:21.56 | lexa_ | 3510 frames in 5.0 seconds = 701.083 FPS |
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| 10:22.16 | lexa_ | opengl error efekt kde |
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| 10:22.38 | spar01101011 | lexa_, don't panic |
| 10:23.55 | hexnewbie | Which systemd unit mounts /run on Jessie? |
| 10:24.43 | hexnewbie | I suspect some services are started before /run, but I have no idea what to grep for in journalctl |
| 10:24.59 | lexa_ | how to find out |
| 10:26.00 | lexa_ | Linux lexa-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M 3.13.0-100-lowlatency #147+7.0trisquel2 SMP PREEMPT Thu Oct 20 10:47:19 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:28.50 | hexnewbie | lexa_: That's not Debian. Also, Trisquel is a FSF-anointed distro that includes no traces of proprietary software of any kind, using proprietary fglrx on it is counter to using Trisquel in the first place. And you don't usually need it - ATI works with the free drivers just fine, as the dpkg bit above suggests. |
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| 10:30.03 | hexnewbie | lexa_: And you may try one of: #trisquel ##ati ##linux |
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| 10:30.34 | hexnewbie | lexa_: Er, that's #ati (not ##ati), sorry. (Confusing.) |
| 10:30.50 | lexa_ | and how to turn the cube kde |
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| 10:31.50 | lexa_ | opengl no |
| 10:32.18 | spar01101011 | need advice: im running with backports kernel, systemd and nvidia. Its giving me hell when compiling as the dev libraries are tied into former mentions packages. Im wondering if SID is reasonably stable as a substitute for the backports solution. |
| 10:32.24 | spygrid | hexnewbie, what proprietary software does debian come with? (excluding firmware-nonfree) |
| 10:32.49 | lexa_ | yes |
| 10:32.50 | morf | /13/13 |
| 10:33.01 | lexa_ | install error |
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| 10:33.41 | hexnewbie | spygrid: Ask FSF ( https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html ). Debian main is free, but the FSF doesn't think so because you could switch the contrib/non-free repositories during install. |
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| 10:34.20 | lexa_ | all distro virus hdd space gnome is cool kde fack |
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| 10:34.38 | lexa_ | debian virus |
| 10:34.44 | hexnewbie | lexa_: That's Trisquel, not Debian. And I suspect the issue *is* Trisquel - it doesn't have firmware for your ATI card, deliberately. |
| 10:34.52 | lexa_ | show a virus? |
| 10:35.01 | spygrid | stallman would be the man if he wasn't so pussy to tell the truth |
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| 10:35.33 | lexa_ | f1 ? |
| 10:36.19 | hexnewbie | OK, so what are the possible reasons I get this during boot: courier-imap[XXXX]: Starting Courier IMAP server: imapd/var/run/courier/imapd.pid.lock: No such file or directory |
| 10:38.01 | spygrid | was courier configured/deconfigured to use a chroot ? |
| 10:38.07 | spygrid | or is that a systemd message? |
| 10:38.51 | lexa_ | who do know why you can not add debian repository graphically |
| 10:39.03 | hexnewbie | spygrid: That's a message in journalctl, yes. It happens on some boots, and doesn't happen on other boots. Courier starts after boot |
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| 10:39.17 | hexnewbie | spygrid: I mean, I can start it manually after it fails. |
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| 10:40.10 | hexnewbie | I'm not familiar with Courier's ability chroot, âfgrep -ir chroot /etc/courierâ reveals nothing |
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| 10:41.24 | hexnewbie | I presently added âsystemctl start courier-imapâ, etc in rc.local, which makes it only the fifth service there. And I'm trying to figure out what's preventing services from starting. |
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| 10:42.08 | spygrid | what about systemctl enable courier-imap instead of using rc.local |
| 10:42.21 | hexnewbie | spygrid: It *is* enabled. |
| 10:42.59 | spygrid | perhaps its trying to started TWICE during boot? |
| 10:43.04 | spygrid | or in parallel rather |
| 10:43.32 | spygrid | remove from rc.local ? same error? |
| 10:43.50 | hexnewbie | Well, I just added it to rc.local, it wasn't there when I last booted :) |
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| 10:45.05 | hexnewbie | I'm trying to figure out at what time /run was mounted, but I don't know what to look for in journalctl |
| 10:45.31 | spygrid | god systemd such a load of junk |
| 10:45.46 | hexnewbie | I see that courier-authdaemon is started *after* courier-imap fails, which may be the problem. |
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| 10:47.40 | hexnewbie | Ugh, yeah, that's the issue. courier-authdaemon runs mkdir /var/run/courier |
| 10:48.37 | spygrid | might be related https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774349 |
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| 10:49.01 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/774349 in courier-imap (closed): «courier-imap(-ssl) fails to start on boot»; severity: important; opened: 2015-01-01; last modified: 2016-04-14. |
| 10:49.17 | hexnewbie | Thanks. I'd probably edit the init scripts. |
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| 11:13.04 | CppisME | not authorized to perform operation ubuntu.... anyone had this before? i cant mount the second hdd |
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| 11:15.33 | spar01101011 | CppisME, what is the precise error message? |
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| 11:20.14 | CppisME | hi spar01101011 , one second ill load it up |
| 11:21.14 | CppisME | "Failed to mount not authorized to perform operation" |
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| 11:22.39 | spar01101011 | CppisME, command line or gui? |
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| 11:23.18 | CppisME | gui |
| 11:24.54 | spar01101011 | CppisME, have you checked and tried this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=122469 |
| 11:28.26 | CppisME | which part ? its like everyone throwing in different suggestions |
| 11:28.46 | CppisME | the second hdd is an internal drive |
| 11:29.04 | CppisME | he current system auto mounts all other typs of usb sticks and usb hdd |
| 11:29.58 | spar01101011 | CppisME, is it a nvme drive? |
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| 11:30.27 | CppisME | whats that |
| 11:32.01 | spar01101011 | its a "NVM Express". type: "sudo fdisk -l" and check if it says something like "/dev/nvme0n1" at the second drive |
| 11:32.29 | spar01101011 | its a type of ssd |
| 11:33.20 | spar01101011 | CppisME, and: have you tried mounting it manually with sudo? |
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| 11:34.55 | candidat__ | which debian iso should i take if i have an i7 intel cpu ? |
| 11:35.11 | candidat__ | amd64 ? |
| 11:35.37 | spar01101011 | candidat__, yup |
| 11:35.44 | candidat__ | ty |
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| 11:38.17 | gebruiker | my debian is running so good that I am bored |
| 11:39.01 | spygrid | gebruiker, which version ? |
| 11:39.10 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, not running on new hw then |
| 11:39.29 | babilen | gebruiker: Most people would consider that to be a good thing and work on something real |
| 11:39.40 | babilen | (i.e. not fixing their system) |
| 11:39.47 | julius_ | aZz7eCh, i got virtualbox up and running, extensions are installed and i can see my usb device as removeable media inside the vbox |
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| 11:40.00 | spar01101011 | babilen, the danger of linux -> config creep |
| 11:40.06 | julius_ | aZz7eCh, but rufus does not detect any devices....which version did you use? |
| 11:40.29 | gebruiker | spygrid: jessie only thing i changed was the kernel, compiled my own with CK and BFQ |
| 11:40.57 | julius_ | gebruiker, try making a bootable usb stick for a windows install in linux....that will keep you occupied |
| 11:41.17 | gebruiker | spar01101011: it is a couple of years old I guess. Celeron 2.6 ghz SMP. ATI Radeon hd 5450 |
| 11:42.34 | gebruiker | julius_: lol i tried winusb with windows 10. Ran xubuntu previously but sucked too much |
| 11:42.50 | gebruiker | babilen: hmm i am trying to figure out what I should do |
| 11:42.57 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, love it when deb works out of the box. ^^ |
| 11:43.27 | gebruiker | spar01101011: ah yeah i also installed fontconfig infinality because default fontconfig is not good |
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| 11:43.30 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, contribute to an open source project. |
| 11:43.31 | gebruiker | but other than that super |
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| 11:43.43 | gebruiker | hmm I have no coding skills |
| 11:43.59 | iflema | take up haskell |
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| 11:44.30 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, great place to get them. You will learn to write coherently and be a team player. Unlike me ^^ |
| 11:45.26 | gebruiker | checking it out now spar01101011 |
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| 11:46.36 | spar01101011 | CppisME, did you solve your problem? |
| 11:47.19 | at0m | gebruiker: https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help |
| 11:47.28 | at0m | plenty things to do =) |
| 11:48.09 | julius_ | aZz7eCh, ah maybe i shouldnt run rufus from the target device |
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| 11:49.47 | spar01101011 | at0m, imo code skills is priority |
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| 11:52.08 | CppisME | spar01101011, no i havent solced it |
| 11:52.11 | CppisME | :( |
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| 11:52.50 | spar01101011 | CppisME, did you try to mount i from the command line with root priviledges? |
| 11:53.04 | CppisME | hgow do i do that ? |
| 11:53.22 | CppisME | i did with root |
| 11:53.32 | CppisME | but i dont know the I thing |
| 11:53.55 | spar01101011 | CppisME, typo i -> it |
| 11:54.01 | cruncher | julius_, i saw you wanted to do the usb boot of windows, still wanting? |
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| 11:54.34 | CppisME | ive tried so many things i dont even know where to start again |
| 11:54.39 | at0m | spar01101011: he said he doesn't code. that'll take years. |
| 11:54.49 | CppisME | i want to deleete the hdd and start again, but it wont even let ,me dpo that now |
| 11:54.52 | julius_ | cruncher, yes, im currently witing for rufus to finish writing the image onto the stick |
| 11:55.10 | julius_ | cruncher, installed a windows inside a virtualbox...sad but maybe it works |
| 11:56.13 | cruncher | julius_, having windows is the easiest way |
| 11:56.26 | julius_ | probably |
| 11:56.46 | julius_ | still wondering why theres no "easy" way todo this from linux |
| 11:56.56 | spar01101011 | CppisME, delete? try to install gnome-disk-utility , its ok easy to use. For command line mounting check this out: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/01/mount-umount-examples/ |
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| 11:58.37 | julius_ | CppisME, you can boot the ubuntu/debian installer and do it from there |
| 11:58.37 | spar01101011 | at0m, worth it :) |
| 11:58.50 | cruncher | why should linux make installing windows easy? ;-) |
| 11:58.56 | julius_ | CppisME, try your local linux user group for support that can look over your shoulder |
| 11:59.02 | julius_ | cruncher, true |
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| 11:59.22 | julius_ | cruncher, its just that theres usually a way |
| 11:59.24 | cruncher | na, i was halfly joking, dont take that question seriously :) |
| 12:00.07 | cruncher | julius_, but if you are interested, a quick solution: basically you format the usb stick with ntfs, copy all iso contents inside, mark partition on usb stick active, and run bootsect /nt60 E: (where e: is your drive) |
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| 12:00.17 | cruncher | and thats all of windows "support" im going to give in this channel :) |
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| 12:00.33 | julius_ | yes,..maybe if rufus fails |
| 12:01.12 | CppisME | i dont have any other that |
| 12:01.17 | CppisME | i just installed it today |
| 12:01.29 | CppisME | but thanks for the advice |
| 12:01.31 | julius_ | its just that i got my hands on a gfx card yesterday and till then im trying to install windows :( |
| 12:02.06 | cruncher | you mean since then |
| 12:02.17 | julius_ | CppisME, if you want to reinstall after one day might i suggest to use virtualbox from windows and run linux as a guest |
| 12:02.21 | cruncher | why? is the card not supported on debian? |
| 12:02.30 | jayaura | Hi, I am having issues with the virtualbox from the debian jessie repo. i cant find vboxdrv.sh script. Since I am runing it on a vps, i need to manually build the driver. |
| 12:02.31 | julius_ | cruncher, games are not supported :) |
| 12:02.48 | cruncher | julius_, that statement is not entirely true ;-) |
| 12:02.59 | spar01101011 | julius_, i think you are sidetracking CppisME a bit now. |
| 12:03.05 | julius_ | jayaura, dpkg -L virtualbox should list the package content |
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| 12:03.16 | julius_ | spar01101011, oh sorry |
| 12:03.17 | jayaura | julius_, thanks, let me check |
| 12:03.35 | cruncher | i few days ago i checked for some games support, and was surprised to see how many games are able (without any trouble) to play on linux |
| 12:04.10 | julius_ | cruncher, yes there are games....but in the first person shooter genre if you want decent frames (and you always need more) a emulation is not a option |
| 12:04.21 | julius_ | cruncher, quake3 had a very nice port...that worked as well as on windows |
| 12:04.34 | cruncher | julius_, not talking about emulation even, steam i.e |
| 12:04.53 | spar01101011 | lots of games on gog.com and steam |
| 12:05.15 | cruncher | but yes, some games have issues, but dont forget there are even linux binaries for some games to run natively |
| 12:06.32 | cruncher | CppisME, what do you want to do? you want to mount or delete a hd? |
| 12:06.36 | jayaura | julius_, that file doesnt exist. Looks like I need to install from upstream. Debian devs seems to have removed the script and put the required headers into virtualbox-dkms. unfortunately the kernel I'm running is not in the repo. so install will faile |
| 12:06.50 | jayaura | julius_, thanks for the hint |
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| 12:08.34 | julius_ | jayaura, start with a default kernel if at all possible....and then derivate |
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| 12:11.52 | julius_ | finally...a useable windows stick...THAT took some doing |
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| 12:15.38 | CppisME | cruncher, yes. but now i think i just killed it i cant login now |
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| 12:15.44 | CppisME | f**K |
| 12:16.33 | spar01101011 | CppisME, what did you do? |
| 12:17.00 | CppisME | now when i enter my pw in, it kkeeps going back to the gui asking for the password. |
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| 12:19.55 | spar01101011 | CppisME, what did you do? |
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| 12:20.27 | CppisME | if i knew that i could fix it lol |
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| 12:20.53 | CppisME | i was fidleing around with trying to get the 2nd hdd to mount |
| 12:21.05 | spar01101011 | CppisME, rly? did you mess with partitions? |
| 12:21.52 | CppisME | and i read one person article said that possible the auto login was the culrit. iso i did what they said and went in through command line and changed to not auto log in, but now i cant even login at all |
| 12:21.56 | CppisME | *Sigh* |
| 12:22.17 | cruncher | CppisME, did you play with /etc/passwd? |
| 12:22.55 | CppisME | no |
| 12:22.56 | cruncher | CppisME, anyway, press control+alt+f1, then login, then we can help you further |
| 12:22.59 | CppisME | i think it was fstab |
| 12:23.12 | cruncher | you "think" :) |
| 12:23.24 | CppisME | i cant remember |
| 12:23.29 | CppisME | i was trying so many things |
| 12:23.31 | cruncher | a good advice, dont just do something becasue you read it somewhere :) |
| 12:23.52 | cruncher | but as is said, login in tty1 and then talk to us |
| 12:23.59 | cruncher | we want to help you |
| 12:24.06 | cruncher | :) |
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| 12:24.53 | jelly | CppisME: which debian release is this again, and which desktop environment? |
| 12:26.17 | CppisME | trisquel |
| 12:26.33 | CppisME | it had lxde at first and about 2 hours ago i install the xfce4 |
| 12:26.36 | jelly | um, that's a different distro |
| 12:26.47 | CppisME | but in both the 2nd hdd was not mounting and gave the same error messages |
| 12:26.53 | jelly | can you reproduce this with an actual debian installation? |
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| 12:27.21 | CppisME | trisquel i think uses deb |
| 12:27.44 | CppisME | atcuall more closley to ubuntu |
| 12:28.00 | jelly | we don't know what kinds of changes the authors did, makes it unsupportable in here |
| 12:28.04 | jelly | !trisquel |
| 12:28.05 | dpkg | Trisquel is a Spanish distribution initially based on Debian, now Ubuntu. It is not supported in #debian. http://trisquel.info/en #trisquel on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
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| 12:29.59 | jelly | if you installed debian, people in here would know your starting point and be better equipped to help |
| 12:30.16 | CppisME | fair enough |
| 12:30.29 | CppisME | i just came in here because it was similar |
| 12:30.32 | CppisME | but i understand |
| 12:31.09 | jelly | try their channel, #trisquel apparently, or the generic ##linux |
| 12:31.09 | CppisME | it doesnt matter now, im doing a fresh install as we speak. atleast it will be quicker this time as now i have a bit of an idea of hwow to get xfce back on etc |
| 12:31.28 | CppisME | ok. many thanks ") |
| 12:31.43 | CppisME | see you |
| 12:34.41 | spar01101011 | CppisME, you can always install debian and come back. |
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| 12:35.10 | CppisME | lol |
| 12:35.25 | CppisME | i had debian with the xfce it was nice as well |
| 12:35.38 | CppisME | however im after the free libre version |
| 12:35.42 | CppisME | of lniux |
| 12:35.46 | CppisME | gnu linux |
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| 12:36.23 | spar01101011 | CppisME, well you can run debian as free as you want |
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| 12:36.52 | hexnewbie | The main repository of Debian is free, any non-free bits of the kernel should be in linux-firmware-nonfree which is not in main, and I don't even know what Trisquel's linux-libre gives you on top of that. |
| 12:38.04 | CppisME | why isnt debian listed on the gnu.org website ? |
| 12:38.25 | atralheaven_ | Hi, I want to create a user on my server only for using it to have ssh proxy, so this user should be as limited as possible for security reasons. how should this user be created? thanks |
| 12:39.12 | spar01101011 | CppisME, bc. Richard is pissed that debian allows access to non-free repos per default |
| 12:39.29 | hexnewbie | CppisME: Politics. It has a non-free and contrib repositories, hence it is promoting the use of non-free software. |
| 12:39.37 | hexnewbie | Or something |
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| 12:40.19 | hexnewbie | atralheaven_: SSH proxy? Would the user be connecting over SSH? |
| 12:40.20 | CppisME | correct |
| 12:40.32 | CppisME | but the trisquel solves that issue |
| 12:40.40 | CppisME | thats why i started to use it |
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| 12:40.58 | CppisME | anyway i dont want to start any issues in the website |
| 12:41.11 | CppisME | i was just coming in here to chat and see if i could get any help |
| 12:41.25 | CppisME | i understand what you mentioned re: support |
| 12:41.30 | CppisME | its all good |
| 12:41.31 | spar01101011 | CppisME, its an imaginary issue. Debian is the best of both worlds. You are free to use what you want. |
| 12:41.45 | atralheaven_ | hexnewbie: ssh tunnel, -D option. the user on the server side should not be able to do anything, and it should only be used to connect to ssh for using ssh as proxy |
| 12:42.58 | CppisME | spar01101011, yes i do like debian as well. i just also liiek trisquel its quite nice as well |
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| 12:43.05 | hexnewbie | atralheaven_: Are you following a manual for that? Typically, the SSH daemon options (and possibly the .authorized_keys entries) is what you need, and those should be detailed in the manual. |
| 12:43.28 | CppisME | i was just setting this old computer up so i can put xfce on it. so i could give it to my mum for basic webbrowsing |
| 12:43.44 | spar01101011 | CppisME, im sure it is. :) |
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| 12:43.59 | hexnewbie | atralheaven_: Making sure the shell is /bin/false for the user may be enough |
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| 12:44.34 | hexnewbie | atralheaven_: I have not tested these, but they may help: https://serverfault.com/questions/56566/ssh-tunneling-only-access |
| 12:44.44 | atralheaven_ | hexnewbie: does that user need home directory? |
| 12:45.08 | hexnewbie | atralheaven_: One doesn't hurt, and you'd need one if authorized_keys is used |
| 12:45.31 | spar01101011 | CppisME, (sorry channel) when i set up machines for non-technical users its usually an Ubuntu derivative. |
| 12:46.16 | atralheaven_ | hexnewbie: oh right, its needed for keys! im going to test it, thanks :) |
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| 12:47.55 | CppisME | spar01101011, trisquel would also be a derivative of ubuntu :) |
| 12:50.05 | spar01101011 | CppisME, ah i see. :) |
| 12:50.11 | CppisME | :) |
| 12:50.34 | CppisME | i thnk they deblob th eubuntu |
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| 14:06.37 | claus | ciao |
| 14:06.53 | claus | !list |
| 14:06.53 | dpkg | claus: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 15:13.15 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 15:13.23 | tobiasBora | In unstable, iceweasel is now firefox ? |
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| 15:13.46 | SpeedyG | in stable too :) |
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| 15:14.04 | tobiasBora | All right. That's why iceweasel isn't updated anymore ? |
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| 15:14.22 | tobiasBora | But I don't understand why the package isn't just removed, or at least point to firefox |
| 15:14.45 | tobiasBora | because I just realize today that I got an old version of firefox just because I got iceweasel installed... |
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| 15:14.55 | SpeedyG | https://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel :) |
| 15:15.07 | khudher_ | Hello, I have an issue, i cant shut down my laptop (it hangs) |
| 15:15.09 | jmcnaught | tobiasBora: do you mean firefox-esr? |
| 15:15.34 | jmcnaught | khudher_: which Debian release? how are you trying to shut it down? |
| 15:15.42 | khudher_ | the problem is that, it doesnt happen 'always', it does happen sometimes (when i use my laptop for a long time) |
| 15:15.51 | khudher_ | debian stretch, but i had the same issue with jessie |
| 15:15.54 | khudher_ | i suspect of wrong drivers |
| 15:16.00 | jmcnaught | !debian-next |
| 15:16.00 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:16.06 | khudher_ | i don't know how to troubleshoot |
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| 15:16.23 | tobiasBora | jmcnaught: Not sure to follow you. I've iceweasel 45.4, which is quite buggy |
| 15:16.48 | SpeedyG | tobiasBora: read the link I just posted |
| 15:17.40 | jmcnaught | tobiasBora: firefox-esr is the enterprise support release of firefox, it gets security and bug fixes, but no new features until the next ESR |
| 15:17.43 | SpeedyG | it's Firefox-ESR 45.4 now... |
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| 15:19.46 | tobiasBora | jmcnaught: All right. So iceweasel/firefox-esr is supposed to be stable, while firefox.real is the new firefox. If I remove iceaweasel package, will /usr/bin/firefox point onto firefox.real ? |
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| 15:21.23 | jmcnaught | tobiasBora: if you're on unstable please start going #debian-next on OFTC for support. You'll need to figure out the difference between the firefox and firefox-esr packages, and the meta package dependencies may be different than they are on stable |
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| 15:22.12 | tobiasBora | I'm not allowed to go on this channel |
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| 15:22.48 | jmcnaught | !tell tobiasBora about debian-next |
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| 15:23.26 | tobiasBora | Thank you ! |
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| 16:06.48 | be00e | Hey |
| 16:07.01 | veek | what does this mean 'Could u make a PR for Debian? I have only a Ubuntu VM set up yet, so I cannot test the setup on Debian.' |
| 16:07.08 | Walex | tobiasBora: if you use the 'unstable' archive or 'testing' archive you are supposed to be a Debian guru with in depth knowledge of packaging and bug finding... |
| 16:07.12 | be00e | I'm looking for a good OCR. I have installed OCRFeeder, and tesseract however it doesn't work effectively. |
| 16:07.23 | veek | pull request? |
| 16:07.29 | Walex | be00e: that's an interesting issue. |
| 16:07.53 | be00e | http://i.imgur.com/0H8FMaW.png |
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| 16:08.26 | Walex | be00e: in my experience the best free software engines are 'tesseract' and 'cuneiform' and one works best with same texts and the other with some others. |
| 16:09.25 | Walex | be00e: note that both 'tesseract' and 'cuneiform' are not OCR applications, they are OCR *engines*, they don't do things like spell-checking to clean up. |
| 16:09.33 | sm00th | I think the apper in kde shouldn't ask for root password if user already sudo'd for updates |
| 16:09.43 | sm00th | isn't that a security risk? |
| 16:09.55 | be00e | Walex, Would a spell check fix what is in the screen shot? |
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| 16:10.01 | tobiasBora | Walex: Actually I don't mind looking for bugs when it occurs (I occasionnaly have ones when I upgrade), and I'm very happy with my debian unstable, which is not that unstable. |
| 16:10.07 | sm00th | should just ask for user passwd |
| 16:10.11 | Walex | be00e: your screenshot shows that your text image is of pooor quality |
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| 16:10.53 | Walex | be00e: it is quite fuzzy. It is best to have higher resolution, high contrast text. |
| 16:11.08 | Walex | be00e: OCR is *very* sensitive to text image quality. |
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| 16:13.31 | jmcnaught | sm00th: please don't /msg people |
| 16:13.41 | sm00th | hahah |
| 16:13.51 | sm00th | i left the sm00th's in there just for you |
| 16:14.01 | Walex | be00e: I tend to use 200DPI with fairly high contrast. |
| 16:14.14 | Walex | be00e: too high a DPI however is a problem. |
| 16:14.36 | sm00th | Walex, take this to offtopic this is not debian specific |
| 16:14.42 | sm00th | salutes jmcnaught |
| 16:14.51 | sm00th | hail |
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| 16:21.35 | SuperDuperDevil | i want to move all files from /home/user/folder to /home/user/downloads/folder, is there a way i can work with wildcards or something to make it faster |
| 16:21.39 | alexgr | about to install OBS (Open Broadcast Studio).. any tips ? or should I just dive in :) |
| 16:21.40 | SuperDuperDevil | then doing it 1-for-1 |
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| 16:22.43 | SuperDuperDevil | ***they are in subfolders /home/user/folder/movies, /home/user/folder/games, etc. |
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| 16:23.25 | jelly | SuperDuperDevil: is the destination folder empty? |
| 16:23.33 | SuperDuperDevil | yes |
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| 16:23.57 | jelly | SuperDuperDevil: are both source and destination on the same filesystem? |
| 16:24.09 | SuperDuperDevil | yes |
| 16:24.28 | jelly | then do not move files, move the whole directory with a single mv command |
| 16:24.43 | SuperDuperDevil | ja okay, but how does deluge know |
| 16:24.44 | SuperDuperDevil | oops |
| 16:24.47 | SuperDuperDevil | false channel |
| 16:24.54 | jelly | rmdir /home/user/downloads/folder && mv /home/user/folder /home/user/downloads/ |
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| 16:25.07 | SuperDuperDevil | nana was a deluge specific question, im in the wrong channel, sorry |
| 16:25.21 | jelly | np |
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| 16:26.08 | humbot | rmdir ?! |
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| 16:37.17 | jubo2 | Hiya..' |
| 16:37.27 | jubo2 | Noticed the 3.16 kernel was updated |
| 16:37.38 | jubo2 | do I need to reboot the servers for it to take effect |
| 16:37.46 | jubo2 | newb question, I know I know |
| 16:37.59 | nyuszika7h | I'm getting this on "sudo apt-get update" (currently on wheezy, trying to upgrade to jessie): https://ptpb.pw/cd86 |
| 16:38.06 | nyuszika7h | jubo2: yes, you need to reboot to update the kernel |
| 16:38.21 | jubo2 | ok.. I'll inform the users |
| 16:38.38 | nyuszika7h | (there are tricks like kexec / ksplice to avoid rebooting but it's not that simple) |
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| 16:45.42 | sm00th | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.45 | sm00th | haha |
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| 17:21.18 | Guest42098 | How do I get a list of packages isntalled from repositories other than debian? |
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| 17:23.46 | TomTomTosch | Guest42098: aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ?not(?origin(Debian)))' |
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| 17:24.37 | TomTomTosch | note that this also shows packages that are no longer in the debian repo but were when you installed them. so you might want to update your system first. |
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| 17:29.30 | Guest42098 | TomTomTosch: worked thanks. Also is fakeroot broken? |
| 17:30.04 | TomTomTosch | not that i know of. if you describe your problem someone might be able to help you. |
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| 17:34.26 | Guest42098 | I am running " fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers " but as a return I get : "getopt: onbekende optie '--initrd'" and "getopt: onbekende optie '--append-to-version=-custom'". Followed by : " fakeroot, create a fake root environment. usage: fakeroot [-l|--lib fakerootlib] [-f|--faked fakedbin] ...... " |
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| 17:37.15 | jmcnaught | !kernel handbook |
| 17:37.15 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
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| 17:38.02 | jmcnaught | Guest42098: see the above guide. it shows you how to do the newer "make deb-pkg" |
| 17:38.30 | Guest42098 | oh ok |
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| 17:44.19 | hussein | looking for :working grub2 menuentry to boot and install debian 8.3 from hdd |
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| 17:45.30 | Guest42098 | jmcnaught: what replacement is there with make deb-pkg for adding a different version or name to it if one is recompiling the kernel with i.e different settings |
| 17:46.17 | jmcnaught | Guest42098: you'll need to refer to the other portions of the kernel handbook or wait for someone more familiar with custom kernels |
| 17:46.48 | hussein | looking for :working grub2 menuentry to boot and install debian 8.3 from hdd |
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| 17:50.49 | tippy | hey everyone, does anyone know how to fix laptop volume keys not affecting the volume? It shows a little volume pop-up that changes, but I have to manually change the volume in whatever software i'm using |
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| 17:51.25 | teraflops | tippy: how many sound cards so you have? |
| 17:51.28 | teraflops | do* |
| 17:51.46 | jmcnaught | hussein: why not boot from the install on a USB stick? |
| 17:52.11 | tippy | lspci returns "Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)" |
| 17:52.19 | hussein | i like this way |
| 17:52.41 | teraflops | tippy: if you are doing pulseaudio try pactl set-default-sink ^tab to autocomplete |
| 17:53.20 | jmcnaught | hussein: it's in the install manual section 4.4 and 5.1.5 |
| 17:53.44 | hussein | they dont work |
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| 17:54.24 | tippy | teraflops: Well god-damn that worked like a charm |
| 17:54.35 | tippy | Thank you so much |
| 17:54.49 | hussein | looking for :working grub2 menuentry to boot and install debian 8.3 from hdd |
| 17:54.49 | teraflops | tippy: also are you doing/have hdmi |
| 17:54.54 | teraflops | ^? |
| 17:55.01 | teraflops | tippy: np |
| 17:55.05 | tippy | what is the default sink? |
| 17:55.20 | jmcnaught | hussein: please show us exactly what you tried and the way it does not work (take a picture of your screen if necessary) |
| 17:55.21 | tippy | I do have HDMI but I didn't think that was the issue because I was still getting sound |
| 17:55.25 | teraflops | the one you want to be the default :P |
| 17:55.38 | teraflops | tippy: yeah that was the issue |
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| 17:56.03 | tippy | I guess what I mean is, were the buttons changing the volume of a different output then? |
| 17:56.27 | tippy | because if the default audio out was something different, I would've had no sound |
| 17:57.21 | teraflops | tippy: youre just saying that the default one is the one you especify so the xf86media keys points to that one |
| 17:57.46 | teraflops | idk if explained my self right, sorry |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | i did these ones but non of them worked |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | menuentry "Debian Jessie (stable)" { |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | insmod part_gpt |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.54 | hussein | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:59.44 | teraflops | tippy: you can do the same with e.g pavucontrol |
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| 18:01.30 | teraflops | no rejoin maybe he thinks he was banned |
| 18:02.23 | edju | I have jessie installed on 2 machines - a mac and a dell. On the mac, grub offers sysvinit. On the dell, running 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1, no such option. Any advice appreciated. |
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| 18:03.51 | teraflops | edju: sorry but I dont know what "grub offers sysvinit" means |
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| 18:05.46 | edju | teraflops, The second option on the grub menu is "Advanced Options" or something like that. When that option is chosen, one is offered to boot with sysvinit. |
| 18:06.07 | teraflops | oh |
| 18:07.50 | teraflops | edju: no idea, maybe take a look at the entry and see what params are passed to the bootloader |
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| 18:09.34 | awal1 | teraflops, I have no access to my jessie now but in grub menu » advanced options there two options: boot with systemd or with sysvinit; default (debian gnu/linux - first entry) is with systemd |
| 18:10.26 | awal1 | at least it was the case when jessie was released; maybe thing have changed with jessie menor updates :P |
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| 18:15.55 | rcowie | hey chaps, anyone know how I can solve this? - I have a custom image that I love; but it's defaulting to a 600x400 resolution no matter if on a 20" flatscreen or a 50" plasma (according to the TV connected by HDMI the output is VGA?) |
| 18:16.13 | rcowie | I have tried and tried to change/add something to xrandr - but to no avail - it only sees 'default' and wont allow additions or changes? |
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| 18:16.16 | rcowie | Can/should I attempt to somehow 'force' a resolution the machine doesnt seem to understand? |
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| 18:16.53 | jmcnaught | rcowie: what is a custom image? |
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| 18:17.59 | rcowie | it's a regular distro I have added tons of things to and installed programs etc on |
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| 18:18.08 | rcowie | sorry :) - bad wording |
| 18:18.35 | jmcnaught | rcowie: is it Debian or based on Debian? |
| 18:18.51 | rcowie | Kali - debian based (stripped) |
| 18:18.59 | jmcnaught | !kali |
| 18:18.59 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 18:19.13 | rcowie | But dist-upgraded to include support for various latest Debian 8/Wheezy |
| 18:19.32 | rcowie | ahhh - ok :( -sorry guys |
| 18:20.21 | awal1 | rcowie, the following is even better :P :D |
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| 18:20.28 | awal1 | !based on debian |
| 18:20.28 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 18:21.01 | ctcpme | i cannot figure out for the life of me why setting "ctrl:nocaps" for XKBOPTIONS in /etc/default/keyboard is not taking effect for me |
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| 18:21.34 | tippy | Where would I get flash for debian Firefox? |
| 18:21.36 | codfection | !backport |
| 18:21.36 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 18:21.37 | ctcpme | i see (**) Option "xkb_options" "ctrl:nocaps" show up in my Xorg.0.log |
| 18:22.10 | ctcpme | yet my caps lock key is still caps lock |
| 18:22.18 | teraflops | awal1: ah I never noticed it |
| 18:22.44 | awal1 | tippy, well, you can use the obsolete flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:22.45 | th0r | ctcpme, I change that in .Xmodmap. But I would expect it to be called ctrl:nocapslock or something close |
| 18:23.34 | awal1 | tippy: you have no other choice if you're using i386 |
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| 18:24.50 | tippy | I'm using amd64 |
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| 18:25.38 | awal1 | tippy, so flashplugin-nonfree for firefox or pepperflashplugin-nonfree for chromium |
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| 18:26.03 | awal1 | ,v browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash |
| 18:26.04 | judd | Package: browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash on amd64 -- jessie-backports/contrib: 0.3.5-1~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 0.3.5-1; stretch/contrib: 0.3.5-1 |
| 18:26.28 | awal1 | tippy, also try ^ |
| 18:27.02 | awal1 | that pkg from backports is for use pepper on firefox |
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| 18:51.15 | ce_este_psihiatr | psychiatry========================================================================================================================================================== FALSE GOSPEL ! |
| 18:51.38 | th0r | and the ignore list grows again |
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| 18:53.26 | izua_ | it's funny because his name says "what is psychiatry" |
| 18:53.53 | morf | not this guy againn |
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| 18:54.20 | izua_ | what did he do before? |
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| 18:55.37 | mrtrump | I formatted /dev/sdc without creating a partitiion |
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| 18:55.48 | mrtrump | its mounted and working, fine, will it ggive me trouble? |
| 18:56.59 | ce_este_psihiatr | psychiatry========================================================================================================================================================== FALSE GOSPEL ! |
| 18:57.10 | xand | fuck off ce_este_psihiatr |
| 18:57.25 | xand | (and see a psychiatrist) |
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| 18:57.35 | teraflops | xand: just ignore ey |
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| 18:58.07 | teraflops | mrtrump: are you about to start trolling or it's a legit question? |
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| 18:58.52 | xand | mrtrump: there should be no problems with that |
| 18:59.03 | teraflops | mrtrump: partitionless is fine you may encounter issues but I never had any |
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| 19:00.00 | teraflops | mrtrump: here http://ix.io/17JS |
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| 19:01.22 | yann-kaelig | Hi. If i need more uptodate packages on Debian which one should I use, debian testing or debian stable with backports |
| 19:02.13 | ce_este_psihiatr | psychiatry========================================================================================================================================================== FALSE GOSPEL ! |
| 19:02.15 | teraflops | mrtrump: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14010/the-merits-of-a-partitionless-filesystem |
| 19:02.32 | ptvschkn | Excuse me, can you help me with neutron version in sid? How debian package v2:9.0.0-4 corresponds to neutron version numbers, for which the last supported version is 7.0 |
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| 19:05.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions neutron |
| 19:05.33 | judd | No package named 'neutron' was found in amd64. |
| 19:06.25 | ptvschkn | oh. excuse me. I should go to #debian-cloud whith this |
| 19:06.40 | TomTomTosch | ptvschkn: 2: is the epoch, which is used in debian packaging. 9.0.0 is the upstream version. http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/neutron/newton.html |
| 19:07.32 | TomTomTosch | oops, that's not the same. |
| 19:07.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | urgh. the package reports http://neutron.openstack.org/ as the homepage |
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| 19:08.39 | ptvschkn | im here. TomTom. Thank you! I get it! |
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| 19:11.09 | ptvschkn | @TomTomTosch is it same to https://releases.openstack.org/newton/index.html |
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| 19:12.33 | TomTomTosch | the release notes link to that newton page. which confused me a bit. |
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| 19:13.16 | ptvschkn | Looks like the version is 9.0.0. Thank's for hel TomTom |
| 19:13.19 | ptvschkn | help |
| 19:13.29 | TomTomTosch | no problem. |
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| 19:16.14 | kehoea | #debian, hello! |
| 19:16.23 | kehoea | I am running 8.6 on amd64 |
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| 19:16.41 | kehoea | I have the following at the beginning of my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:16.42 | kehoea | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free |
| 19:17.00 | kehoea | I would like to upgrade my kernel to avoid the Dirty Cow privilege escalation bug |
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| 19:17.27 | kehoea | https://www.debian.org/security/ suggests I should be able to do this with |
| 19:17.28 | kehoea | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 19:17.34 | mrtrump | <---super happy with usb3 working under debian |
| 19:17.35 | mrtrump | :) |
| 19:17.40 | mrtrump | 5x faster |
| 19:17.44 | kehoea | this, unfortunately, does not result in a non-vulnerable kernel being installed |
| 19:17.47 | mrtrump | probly disk limit |
| 19:18.42 | missmbob | kehoea: it was fixed a couple of days ago. maybe you upgraded then and didn't notice? what version do you have? see this https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-5195 |
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| 19:20.31 | kehoea | missmbob, 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 |
| 19:21.06 | kehoea | which is less than 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 , as far as I can see |
| 19:21.23 | kehoea | I didn't upgrade then |
| 19:21.35 | missmbob | kehoea: no. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 19:21.45 | missmbob | kehoea: look at the () |
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| 19:22.40 | kehoea | ah, right, I beg your pardon, I do see that in the uname -a output |
| 19:22.44 | kehoea | thank you! |
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| 19:23.07 | zumba_addict | afternoon folks, i tried the dirty cow vulnerability on my debian and it worked but after few seconds, I can no longer access it. It froze. How did Debian prevented it? |
| 19:23.10 | zumba_addict | that is cool |
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| 19:26.17 | TheLawyer | what is the difference between Debian-8.2.0 and Debian-8.5.0 |
| 19:26.42 | TheLawyer | which one should I keep to try first debian installation? |
| 19:27.10 | missmbob | mostly security updates |
| 19:27.20 | missmbob | always install the latest stable. which is 8.6 right now |
| 19:27.28 | TheLawyer | so I better keep Debian-8.5.0 |
| 19:27.49 | TheLawyer | it's not for production ... just trying different distro |
| 19:27.59 | D630 | anyone having bash-completion_2.1-4.3_all.deb installed and getting errors when using "dbus-update-activation-environment --systemd --all"? |
| 19:28.01 | missmbob | huh? |
| 19:28.10 | missmbob | oh, right |
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| 19:42.44 | jim | is this the right sources line for jessie security?: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
| 19:43.17 | missmbob | yes |
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| 19:47.52 | _44trent_ | so i'm pretty sure my sources list is screwed up |
| 19:48.00 | _44trent_ | is there any way to make it the default? |
| 19:48.16 | missmbob | !jessie sources.list |
| 19:48.17 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 19:48.30 | jim | thanks... I'm having trouble finding the right kernel image package for the patch for CVE-2016-5195... https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-5195 says "jessie (security)3.16.36-1+deb8u2fixed" but I'm not able to browse the security site yet... let me try one thing... |
| 19:48.40 | _44trent_ | thanks |
| 19:49.03 | missmbob | jim: what does uname -a output in its entirety? |
| 19:49.05 | _44trent_ | got all screwed up because I couldn't get my wifi firmware to work and since I used the DVD i figured I didn't need to be wired to the router while installing |
| 19:49.45 | jim | Linux orie64 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.2-1~bpo8+1 (2016-09-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 19:49.59 | missmbob | jim: have you update/upgrade/reboot? |
| 19:50.29 | jim | I know if I want the fix I have to go back to 3.16 |
| 19:50.38 | jim | I didn't update yet |
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| 19:51.57 | missmbob | jim: you're behind on the jessie-backports. linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (4.7.5-1~bpo8+2) |
| 19:52.25 | _44trent_ | i ran "sudo apt update" after doing that and it can't find an ip |
| 19:52.35 | missmbob | lunch time. bbl |
| 19:52.45 | jim | did they put the rt patch on? |
| 19:53.04 | jim | have a good lunch |
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| 19:53.16 | _44trent_ | W: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/dists/jessie-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:610:1908:b000::148:14 80] |
| 19:53.33 | _44trent_ | can I have the ftp links instead of the http ones for the sources list? |
| 19:53.56 | dvs | _44trent_, http and ftp doesn't matter. |
| 19:54.05 | _44trent_ | yeah except it can't find an IP |
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| 19:54.11 | _44trent_ | is something down? |
| 19:54.28 | dvs | _44trent_, deb.debian.org is not the right address |
| 19:54.46 | _44trent_ | you know i somehow figured it was something like that |
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| 19:55.17 | _44trent_ | uh no, that's the right link |
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| 19:55.21 | dvs | _44trent_, httpredir.debian.org is better |
| 19:55.26 | _44trent_ | okay |
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| 19:56.47 | _44trent_ | yeah, same thing, just with the different url |
| 19:57.27 | _44trent_ | my sources.list is here: http://termbin.com/gpxf |
| 19:57.33 | _44trent_ | is there anything wrong with it |
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| 19:59.31 | dvs | _44trent_, you should add security to it: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
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| 20:01.14 | _44trent_ | nope still failing on 2 URLs |
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| 20:01.29 | _44trent_ | There's something else wrong, the list looks fine |
| 20:01.30 | missmbob | you're missing the /debian |
| 20:01.43 | missmbob | just make it look exactly like this. delete everything you have. https://paste.debian.net/887581/ |
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| 20:03.30 | _44trent_ | there |
| 20:04.09 | missmbob | dont make me interrupt my lunch again ;) |
| 20:05.19 | _44trent_ | i want to enable contrib and non-free, do I have to do it to all of them or just main? |
| 20:05.40 | missmbob | just add contrib and non-free to the end of those three ines |
| 20:05.45 | dvs | _44trent_, add "config non-free" after main |
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| 20:06.11 | missmbob | to all three lines, if that's what you were asking |
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| 20:13.37 | jim | so I'm looking at http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/ to see which linux-image packages might have had the CVE-2016-5195 fix applied to it... and right now I'm defining "might have" as "date >= oct 20"... once I have that list, is there a page that could tell me for sure if that was applied? or is there a changelog attached to the package? (if so that seems as good as anything) |
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| 20:14.14 | unborn | is there any way to share terminal session with another user in real time? |
| 20:14.31 | Guest42098 | dang i almost had a system freeze |
| 20:14.43 | Guest42098 | it literally just hung for 30 seconds. Mouse dissapeared |
| 20:15.12 | Guest42098 | it resumed now - no idea what happend. how do I investigate this? |
| 20:15.16 | jmcnaught | jim: to figure this out you look at the DSA that covers the issue, which will list the package versio nthat fixes the problem(s). In this case https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3696 says it is fixed in 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 |
| 20:15.50 | jim | yeah I saw that |
| 20:16.12 | jim | so 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 is in -security? |
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| 20:17.06 | jim | jmcnaught, will that listing show the backported ones? |
| 20:17.11 | jmcnaught | jim: yeah. it might get moved into jessie/main for a point release (if no other kernel upgrades happen before then) |
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| 20:18.02 | tekoh | ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 20:18.28 | jmcnaught | jim: for backports, you can look at the BSAs in the news section here: https://backports.debian.org/ Otherwise you'd need to check changelogs, going by date wouldn't be very reliable |
| 20:20.13 | jim | at least the dates will get me possibilities... before that date, the fix wasn't out yet to my knowledge |
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| 20:23.28 | jim | right now it looks like backports is too far behind... the BSAs are sorted by date descending? |
| 20:23.43 | jmcnaught | jim: you can also check https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux-signed which shows when packages are moved into jessie-backports in the news section |
| 20:24.14 | jmcnaught | it's quite possible that BSAs are seldomly updated.. the security priority is jessie/main |
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| 20:25.04 | roadrunneratwast | hi. i am running jessie. i would like to install vagrant and virtualbox. i have gone down too many dead ends. what is the right way to do this? |
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| 20:26.51 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: install the vagrant and virtualbox packages provided by Debian |
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| 20:28.12 | roadrunneratwast | there is no virtualbox provided by debian |
| 20:28.16 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox (i think there's also a newer virtualbox in jessie-backports if you need it for some reason) |
| 20:28.24 | jmcnaught | ,v virtualbox |
| 20:28.25 | judd | Package: virtualbox on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.0.24-dfsg-1~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 5.1.6-dfsg-2+b1; sid/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6 |
| 20:28.29 | roadrunneratwast | have you done it? |
| 20:28.38 | roadrunneratwast | i keep on getting inconsistencies |
| 20:28.42 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: it's in contrib. no, i don't use virtualbox, i use libvirt+kvm |
| 20:28.44 | roadrunneratwast | package inconsitecies |
| 20:28.50 | jmcnaught | !bat |
| 20:28.50 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 20:28.53 | roadrunneratwast | i have been unable |
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| 20:29.04 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: ^^ please provide the above for troubleshooting help |
| 20:29.09 | roadrunneratwast | ok |
| 20:29.28 | roadrunneratwast | where is the virtualbox? i can't even find it on apt-get |
| 20:29.47 | roadrunneratwast | E: Package 'virtualbox' has no installation candidate |
| 20:29.55 | roadrunneratwast | so that's the first issue |
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| 20:30.17 | roadrunneratwast | E: Package 'virtualbox-4.3' has no installation candidate |
| 20:30.20 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: it's in contrib. take a look at the information and examples on this page: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Component |
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| 20:39.47 | roadrunneratwast | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.12 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: you need to show us the command you used and the complete output on http://paste.debian.net/ for us to be able to help :) |
| 20:40.16 | roadrunneratwast | ok |
| 20:42.34 | roadrunneratwast | http://paste.debian.net/887675/ |
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| 20:43.52 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: did you earlier attempt installing virtualbox from some other place than the Debian packages? |
| 20:44.29 | roadrunneratwast | yes |
| 20:44.35 | roadrunneratwast | i have been thrashing around |
| 20:44.38 | roadrunneratwast | all day |
| 20:44.50 | roadrunneratwast | how do i completely remove these instances |
| 20:44.57 | transhuman_ | hi first of all this is more than slightly off topic but I figured I would ask maybe someone has an idea ...ip addr shows two ip addresses on a ubuntu virtual machine, where the second one labeled global secondary eth0 comes from I am at a loss to say. Anyone see such a problem with debian? its not a pptp or vpn or bridge interface from what I can see ifconfig -a doesnt show it |
| 20:44.59 | roadrunneratwast | i tried to install from the vbox website |
| 20:45.00 | transhuman_ | thanks in advance |
| 20:45.12 | roadrunneratwast | huge mistake |
| 20:45.23 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: it seems that some debris from earlier attempts is in the way.. i don't know for sure, what did you do to install? add a repo to sources.list? run a script? |
| 20:45.43 | roadrunneratwast | i downloaded the .deb file |
| 20:45.48 | roadrunneratwast | from the virutalbox website |
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| 20:45.51 | transhuman_ | and both the /etc/network/interfaces shows only one ip and network manager isnt installed |
| 20:46.07 | roadrunneratwast | i am not sure how to remove all the detritus |
| 20:47.24 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: what was the name of the package from the oracle website? also can you please show "aptitude search ~i~nvirtualbox" in a paste? (those are tildes not dashes) |
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| 20:47.41 | roadrunneratwast | i deleted the file |
| 20:47.45 | roadrunneratwast | but ... |
| 20:48.05 | roadrunneratwast | http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.8/virtualbox-5.1_5.1.8-111374~Debian~jessie_i386.deb |
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| 20:48.18 | roadrunneratwast | http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.40/virtualbox-4.3_4.3.40-110317~Debian~wheezy_amd64.deb |
| 20:48.23 | roadrunneratwast | i did both |
| 20:48.24 | roadrunneratwast | ugh |
| 20:48.32 | arunpyasi | helo, why I am getting this error ? WARNING GStreamer warning: gst-stream-error-quark: No volume control found (3) |
| 20:49.02 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: what are you doing when you get the error? do you have sound trouble besides this warning? |
| 20:49.30 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, yes, sound is not playing, I am tryng to play music via mopidy |
| 20:49.34 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: once we look at the list of installed packages with virtualbox in the name, we're probably going to purge them all but it's good to check |
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| 20:49.59 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: has sound worked in linux before on this computer? have you tried to configure it with pavucontrol? |
| 20:50.17 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, yes, I can play with aplay |
| 20:50.20 | roadrunneratwast | C virtualbox - x86 virtualization solution - base binaries |
| 20:50.21 | roadrunneratwast | i A virtualbox-dkms - x86 virtualization solution - kernel module sources for dkms |
| 20:50.21 | roadrunneratwast | u A virtualbox-qt - x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user interface |
| 20:50.24 | roadrunneratwast | sorry |
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| 20:50.49 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: "aptitude search ~i~nvirtualbox | nc termbin.com 9999" and then give us the URL |
| 20:50.54 | roadrunneratwast | meant to put that in a paste |
| 20:51.18 | jmcnaught | it's okay, you caught it before the bot kicked you :) |
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| 20:51.49 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: in pavucontrol is the correct output device selected? |
| 20:52.12 | roadrunneratwast | http://termbin.com/wk0u |
| 20:52.28 | roadrunneratwast | should i go there and do something with that link? |
| 20:52.48 | roadrunneratwast | oh |
| 20:52.49 | roadrunneratwast | i see |
| 20:52.59 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, I didn't have pavucontrol, should I install ? |
| 20:52.59 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: it's just an automated way to paste |
| 20:53.04 | roadrunneratwast | k cool |
| 20:53.07 | arunpyasi | I have alsamixer |
| 20:53.17 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: yeah, or use the sound settings in gnome |
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| 20:53.47 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: most stuff will be using pulseaudio by default, unless you've ripped it out for some years-out-of-date-fud reason |
| 20:53.57 | transhuman_ | thanks anyways found a solution http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/13359/where-does-my-secondary-ip-come-from |
| 20:54.03 | roadrunneratwast | should i purge all those packages? |
| 20:54.13 | roadrunneratwast | i thought i already did eliminate virtualbox ... |
| 20:55.00 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: removing gets rid of the software itself, purging also removes config files. try "aptitude purge ~i~nvirtualbox" and check to see what it wants to remove |
| 20:55.21 | jmcnaught | (it should be the same list, but always double check when removing anything) |
| 20:55.47 | roadrunneratwast | so are those tildes like regexes? |
| 20:56.21 | roadrunneratwast | ok purged |
| 20:56.23 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: they're search patterns, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html#tableSearchTermQuickGuide |
| 20:56.25 | roadrunneratwast | will try to reinstall |
| 20:56.26 | roadrunneratwast | ok |
| 20:56.35 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, is there any command with pavucontrol to select the correct output ? |
| 20:56.46 | arunpyasi | I see the command is incomplete |
| 20:57.22 | jmcnaught | roadrunneratwast: i would also look to see if there's a module left: "find /lib/modules -name *vbox*" |
| 20:57.29 | roadrunneratwast | ok |
| 20:57.36 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: pavucontrol is a GTK application |
| 20:57.51 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, OK, I don't have access to GTK |
| 20:57.55 | arunpyasi | I am on SSH |
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| 20:58.13 | missmbob | heh |
| 20:58.52 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: i'll wait for you to fill us in on all the other details before continuing then |
| 21:00.04 | arunpyasi | the thing is, I am trying to play song via mopidy but it got me that warning error and the song is not playing too. And the machine is a raspberry PI 2 with jessie. |
| 21:00.14 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, ^^ |
| 21:00.28 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: Raspbian? |
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| 21:01.05 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, yes please. |
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| 21:01.10 | jmcnaught | !raspbian |
| 21:01.11 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 21:01.29 | jmcnaught | arunpyasi: please use the support for your distro, this channel does not support derivatives of Debian :) |
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| 21:02.22 | arunpyasi | jmcnaught, ok, thank you very much for the info. I thought #debian would help me on that. |
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| 21:02.25 | arunpyasi | better |
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| 21:06.31 | roadrunneratwast | yeah. i am getting the same error again |
| 21:06.31 | roadrunneratwast | :( |
| 21:06.39 | roadrunneratwast | thanks |
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| 21:06.46 | roadrunneratwast | i am giving up |
| 21:06.56 | roadrunneratwast | talk later |
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| 21:08.11 | jmcnaught | missmbob: did you figure out your evolution calendar problem? |
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| 21:11.17 | missmbob | jmcnaught: once i disabled the account in gnome-online-accounts and added it manually, it worked with no problem. somehow the two are different |
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| 21:14.26 | jmcnaught | missmbob: that's a part of the gnome infrastructure i'm not that familiar with. it does seem like evolution is slowly being replaced with single purpose apps though |
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| 21:36.04 | _44trent_ | is it a bad idea to use jessie-backports? i'm trying to get java 8, but stable only has java 7, and I don't want to use the oracle JDK |
| 21:36.21 | _44trent_ | and it appears that openjdk-8-jdk is in backports |
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| 21:36.31 | missmbob | _44trent_: it's fine to have some, sure. |
| 21:36.46 | _44trent_ | just as long as i'm not using like 50 backports i'm g uessing |
| 21:36.53 | missmbob | right |
| 21:37.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | 49 is ok, though |
| 21:37.25 | _44trent_ | yeah definietly, i'm sure |
| 21:37.27 | _44trent_ | (not) |
| 21:37.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | but go to 50 and WHAM |
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| 21:38.10 | _44trent_ | i mean, i'm not too particularly concerned about stability, but i still do care a little, as i don't want things to start randomly breaking |
| 21:39.25 | _44trent_ | weird. java 8 seems to have installed but i'm still using java 7 |
| 21:39.52 | missmbob | you need to use update-alternatives to switch |
| 21:40.02 | TomTomTosch | man update-java-alternatives |
| 21:40.36 | TomTomTosch | java is special, it has it's own command for that ^^ |
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| 21:41.17 | _44trent_ | hmm, there seems to be a manpage but uh...there's no java-update-alternatives command |
| 21:41.27 | TomTomTosch | it's in /sbin/ |
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| 21:41.43 | _44trent_ | ...heh, i probably should've remembered sudo |
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| 21:43.32 | _44trent_ | there we go, it worked |
| 21:44.14 | _44trent_ | no java plugin found, but that's a non issue as I'm just trying to play minecraft |
| 21:44.30 | _44trent_ | i don't even think an applet version exists of it anymore anyway |
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| 21:53.17 | Arimil | Hey guys, I had a few questions. I got my first physical server today (I've only previously used cloud servers). Unfortunately it only has a VGA out and I only have HDMI and DVI cables. |
| 21:53.58 | Arimil | I was wondering if I'd be able to plug the hard drive into my desktop and install debian and openssh then swapping the drive back into the server before the first boot. |
| 21:53.59 | missmbob | that's normal. all servers ever have are vga |
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| 21:54.29 | missmbob | the server one has one hd? really? |
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| 21:54.52 | Renari | It has 1 1TB HD, I have a second one that I plan to put in it at a later date. |
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| 21:55.18 | Renari | It's currently full of junk that I have to clean up. |
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| 21:56.14 | missmbob | anyway...without knowing the bios settings on the server, etc, it'd be impossible to say |
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| 21:57.03 | Renari | My only alternative would be to take my GPU out of my desktop so that I could boot the server and set everything up, but I was trying to avoid that. |
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| 22:00.42 | pingfloyd | Renari: why? |
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| 22:04.14 | Renari | I don't have VGA cable to install the os. |
| 22:04.14 | Renari | Rather I wouldn't be able to see the output. |
| 22:04.14 | Renari | Unless there's some way to setup the os without a display. |
| 22:04.14 | Renari | Can you VNC into a debian installation or something? |
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| 22:04.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | Renari, installing on a different system is usually not a big problem, the kernel autodetects pretty much everything on boot anyway |
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| 22:05.36 | Renari | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks, I'll try it then. |
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| 22:06.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | X was often the exception⦠but you probably won't have a graphical greeter and X installed |
| 22:06.22 | pingfloyd | Renari: are you trying to build a headless server? |
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| 22:06.52 | Renari | Yeah, it's just intended to be a media server. |
| 22:07.06 | pingfloyd | it doesn't have builtin vga at all? |
| 22:07.16 | Renari | It does, I don't have a VGA cable. |
| 22:07.18 | pingfloyd | that would be rather a waste of a gpu |
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| 22:07.41 | Renari | I didn't intend to leave the GPU in the sever. |
| 22:07.51 | pingfloyd | I'd just get a cheap vga cable |
| 22:07.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | Renari, some details, though⦠fstab may need changing (if you don't use disk labels) simlar may be true for grub config (which disk to boot from) |
| 22:07.56 | pingfloyd | it's always good to have one of those laying around |
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| 22:09.56 | RoyK | !snapd |
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| 22:10.23 | Renari | Yeah I'm going to dig around some more, I swear I had a vga to dvi cable. |
| 22:10.28 | Renari | But I haven't been able to find it. |
| 22:10.46 | pingfloyd | the motherboard doesn't have an hdmi out? |
| 22:10.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | and of course IP will need changing ⦠etc |
| 22:10.58 | missmbob | i've never seen a server have hdmi |
| 22:11.17 | pingfloyd | server is a pretty ambiguous term |
| 22:11.28 | th0r | Renari, plug the drive into your desktop, edit /etc/network/interfaces to give the server a local ip. Plug the drive back into the server, ssh into it and do all your reconfig from there. |
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| 22:12.34 | missmbob | you have no idea what'll work without knowing the server bios settings |
| 22:12.48 | missmbob | plus a million other things. waste of time |
| 22:12.50 | pingfloyd | if he's talking an HP proliant or Dell Poweredge, that's a different story, though with those there's usually even more options such as oob. |
| 22:12.51 | missmbob | get a cable somehow |
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| 22:13.19 | pingfloyd | yeah, it's a waste of time to not just plug in a cable you need for now |
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| 22:13.36 | pingfloyd | if you were doing it for work, you'll already payed for a few of those with the time wasted so far. |
| 22:13.56 | Renari | It's a dell poweredge. |
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| 22:14.30 | pingfloyd | you got a poweredge and no spare hardware to set it up? |
| 22:14.51 | Renari | correct |
| 22:16.22 | pingfloyd | they're so caveat ridden, that this is really nothing compared to what's ahead in terms of potential hurdles in getting that thing to run well. First thing you should do is download all of its manuals. |
| 22:16.34 | pingfloyd | then let the hair pulling begin |
| 22:16.59 | Renari | There were a ton of manuals that came in the box. |
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| 22:30.35 | rawf | is there a way to determine what package installed a given file? |
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| 22:31.18 | ryouma | rawf: apt-file-search |
| 22:31.25 | ryouma | rawf: apt-file search |
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| 22:31.51 | rawf | awesome. thank you. I'm dying to know why I have a cron job for PHP when it isn't installed.. |
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| 22:35.41 | missmbob | rawf: dpkg -S file |
| 22:35.53 | g00se | got ssh from this phone to remote laptop running badblocks with progress. How can i see that progress here? |
| 22:36.47 | rawf | finally. thank you. |
| 22:36.57 | rawf | I don't know why php5-common is installed |
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| 22:38.06 | awal1 | rawf, apt-file find filename should also give similar info as dpkg -S. or not? |
| 22:38.30 | rawf | awal1: they both worked |
| 22:38.49 | missmbob | sure. just apt-file has to have been updated first and i find that annoying :P |
| 22:39.06 | awal1 | right |
| 22:39.07 | baraba | rawf, apt-cache rdepends php5-common |
| 22:39.12 | rawf | missmbob: indeed, I think I'll get rid of it |
| 22:39.17 | awal1 | dpkg is less pain :P |
| 22:39.18 | dpkg | awal1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 22:40.19 | g00se | aptitude why php5-common |
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| 22:41.03 | rawf | g00se: awesome |
| 22:41.18 | rawf | I've been getting cron failure emails every 30 minutes because of this.. |
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| 22:57.41 | alexgr | is kernel 3.16.0-4 safe against the recent vuln? |
| 22:57.58 | missmbob | yes |
| 22:57.59 | alexgr | debian jessie over here |
| 22:58.32 | alexgr | word, thanks |
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| 23:17.48 | zxc | I'm transferring a large amount of files (~400 GB) over the network using Samba, through a 100 MB/s cable. However, I'm only getting about 600 KB/s, how can I increase the speed? |
| 23:21.33 | petemc | zxc: theres no secret switch that makes things faster |
| 23:21.52 | zxc | Well I was wondering if I created a bottleneck somewhere. |
| 23:22.12 | zxc | Should it normally be this slow for a cable of my type? |
| 23:22.35 | petemc | depends |
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| 23:23.38 | zxc | There's no other activity on the network, aside from me asking this question. The other computer is just sending files and that's it. |
| 23:24.47 | petemc | the connection with respond to to the size of the client receive window |
| 23:24.51 | petemc | will |
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| 23:25.50 | mrtrump | zxc: use ftp or rsync |
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| 23:26.11 | mrtrump | linux to windows? |
| 23:26.16 | mrtrump | winscp or filezilla |
| 23:26.19 | zxc | Ubuntu to Debian. |
| 23:26.47 | mrtrump | rsync -aP /folder you@server2:/some/path |
| 23:27.02 | mrtrump | trailing slash on both sides if want contents |
| 23:27.09 | mrtrump | not whole folder |
| 23:27.54 | Racha | I'm back ... day 2, still need help crosgrading my debian install. I need grub to boot up to the 64-bit kernel |
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| 23:29.31 | zykotick9 | thinks "typically" people could backup data / fresh install 64bit netinst in less than two days... hummm |
| 23:29.35 | Racha | is there any text-based grub tools that are not cli? |
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| 23:30.00 | zykotick9 | Racha: good luck. i'm no help. and i do wish you well. but i think cross grading might not be the safest of ideas to begin with. |
| 23:31.05 | Racha | It's my only option, I have a single VPS that I have been using for 3 years, and I can't see the monitor output at bootup |
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| 23:37.58 | serverlord | hi |
| 23:38.08 | fhdrin | hi |
| 23:38.27 | serverlord | Some logrotate examples for nginx use some HUP/reload thing on nginx so nginx reloads the log files after they have been cleaned by logrotate? Is that necessary still? |
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| 23:39.56 | Racha | is there any way to make grub output to a log file? I need to be able to see outboot that it gives while booting |
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| 23:40.25 | RoyK | serverlord: logrotate will only change the filenames, really, and in the unix world (where linux lives), a file is an inode, basically, and the filename is just a name. As long as the file is open, it's there, so therefore the reload or restart |
| 23:41.09 | RoyK | serverlord: you can try without the reload, just for kicks, and wait for it to fill up your disk |
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| 23:43.58 | serverlord | RoyK: thanks for the info :D |
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| 23:45.18 | fhdrin | Racha, maybe this might help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Enable_debug_messages |
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| 23:46.09 | serverlord | RoyK: this was very helpful + concise! |
| 23:46.53 | Racha | fhdrin: wow, it's saying to edit the file that shall never be edited :0 |
| 23:47.15 | serverlord | slenderfile :O |
| 23:47.19 | serverlord | always there, no bytes |
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| 23:49.23 | RoyK | serverlord: if you know a wee bit of scripting, test it yourself - just open a file and write some random data to it and while the process is running, rename the file and create an empty one with the original name - you'll see the old file will grow |
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| 23:51.00 | RoyK | serverlord: even if you rm the file, it'll keep growing and you'll see its file descriptor in /proc/<pid>/fd/ |
| 23:51.33 | RoyK | OS-25016: time to change your password, I guess ;) |
| 23:53.07 | Racha | fhdrin: do you think I should edit the /etc/default/grub file instead of the /boot/grub/grub.cfg to put in the "set debug=all" directive? |
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| 23:53.55 | fhdrin | ooh, i don't know, i havent' used grub in a while. i would just search the debian and arch wikis sorry |
| 23:54.32 | RoyK | fhdrin: what do you use instead of grub? |
| 23:54.39 | fhdrin | gummiboot |
| 23:54.52 | fhdrin | lol which i think doesn't exist anymore |
| 23:55.03 | fhdrin | or called something else. for EFI |
| 23:55.38 | RoyK | systemd-boot |
| 23:56.15 | fhdrin | i installed arch on this laptop in 2013 and its still going strong, no reinstalls! |
| 23:56.17 | RoyK | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-boot |
| 23:57.10 | cruncher | Racha, yes, the grub.cfg will be automatically overwritten, use /etc/default/grub |
| 23:57.25 | mrtrump | debian is kicking ass for me |
| 23:57.26 | mrtrump | :) |
| 23:57.34 | mrtrump | jfs life |
| 23:57.43 | Racha | cruncher: thank you |
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