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| 00:01.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 00:02.10 | jelly | backnforth: upload screenshots to imgur or http://picpaste.com/ for a start |
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| 00:07.04 | backnforth | My fstab was off |
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| 01:55.53 | baphomet` | what do i write in terminal if i want to upgrade a program? |
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| 02:01.23 | datasmurf | baphomet`: apt-get upgrade |
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| 02:06.52 | nonet | I installed Debian KDE CD without connecting to a network and now everything is installed but I see no network-manager, no wicd, and generally absolutely no networking tool to allow me to connect to a wireless network. Is this normal? What should I do? |
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| 02:10.50 | datasmurf | nonet: lspci does it show a network controller? |
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| 02:11.45 | nonet | datasmurf: If I type iwconfig I can see the wireless card if that's what you mean (?) |
| 02:11.57 | dvs | nonet, if you have access to a wired network, I'd use that until you can set up your wireless connection. |
| 02:12.14 | nonet | dvs: i unfortunately only have wireless |
| 02:12.47 | nonet | i'm travelling |
| 02:12.56 | dvs | nonet, if you didnt use the firmware ISOs then you're SOL. |
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| 02:14.38 | nonet | i installed the Debian KDE CD. it asked me if I have any non-free firmware to install using removable media, to which I said I did not. Is that what you mean? |
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| 02:15.05 | nonet | i thought network-manager was supposed to be pre-installed. |
| 02:15.25 | dvs | nonet, yes, most wireless controllers need firmware. Without it, it probably won't work. |
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| 02:17.37 | nonet | dvs: may i ask a really dumb question? what exactly do you mean by firmware in this context? does this mean manufacturer specific software drivers for the wireless card that i should've download to some NTFS format flash drive before installing? |
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| 02:19.11 | nonet | maybe i can use iwconfig and wpa_supplicant to get it connected |
| 02:19.30 | dvs | nonet, More wireless cards need a software blob in order for it to work. There is a (unofficial) Debian ISO which includes firmware for a lot of wireless cards. |
| 02:20.14 | dvs | nonet, Actually, I guess I should step back and ask what wireless chip/card you have? |
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| 02:21.04 | nonet | dvs: thanks. that makes sense. hmmm it does wlan0 is 802.11abg and it'sa Dell Latitude laptop. that's all i know at this point. |
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| 02:22.52 | dvs | nonet, What does "lspci -nn | grep -i net" say? |
| 02:22.53 | syco_ | lspci | grep -i net |
| 02:23.00 | syco_ | oops |
| 02:23.39 | dvs | not you!!!! ;-) |
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| 02:24.06 | nonet | dvs: (and syco_) great comman! it says it's a Broadcom NeXtreme ethernet card and a Intel PRO/Wirelress card |
| 02:24.22 | nonet | command* |
| 02:24.36 | dvs | i need the number in the square brackets |
| 02:24.51 | syco_ | dvs, was just a bit slower than you ;p |
| 02:25.07 | nonet | dvs: specifically Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golang] and then the numbers are [8086:4222] |
| 02:25.29 | dvs | ,pciid 8086:4222 |
| 02:25.31 | judd | [8086:4222] is 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel', 'iwl3945' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4222 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy |
| 02:26.16 | dvs | yup, you need firmware |
| 02:26.30 | nonet | dvs: ok thanks so much for your help |
| 02:27.05 | dvs | firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 02:56.45 | echosystm | so. fcron isn't available in jessie, but was in previous verisons of debian |
| 02:56.54 | echosystm | can anyon suggest an alternative that isn't anacron? |
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| 02:59.14 | RoyK | echosystm: doesn't look like fcron has been updated for a while |
| 02:59.48 | echosystm | all i need is a way to make sure jobs run even when skipped |
| 02:59.57 | echosystm | a wrapper of some kind would be fine |
| 03:00.10 | RoyK | you can probably script that easily |
| 03:00.32 | echosystm | yeah i can, it just needs to be deployed to a lot of machines, so packaging it myself etc. is too hard |
| 03:00.46 | echosystm | surely there's something out there for this lol |
| 03:00.58 | dvs | yeah, anacron |
| 03:01.00 | dvs | runs |
| 03:01.06 | echosystm | anacron is the devil |
| 03:01.14 | RoyK | just use a configuration system like ansible to configure the hosts |
| 03:01.23 | echosystm | i already use ansible |
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| 03:01.31 | echosystm | i just don't want to have to edit every playbook |
| 03:01.44 | echosystm | it's an extra 4 lines and a github repo i dont want to have to maintain |
| 03:02.02 | echosystm | (for something that surely must have a standard solution) |
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| 03:10.43 | echosystm | ok looksl ike i'm writing a script |
| 03:10.46 | echosystm | \:D/ |
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| 03:11.00 | echosystm | all good, thanks for the input dudes |
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| 03:15.02 | jmcnaught | echosystm: how often do the tasks need to run? cron on debian uses anacron (if it's installed) for scripts in /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. Look at /etc/crontab to see how that works |
| 03:16.04 | jmcnaught | so if the answer is daily or less frequently, just install anacron and drop scripts into those directories, you get the benefit of anacron but without having to touch it |
| 03:16.39 | missmbob | curses google for #841373 |
| 03:16.40 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/841373 in pepperflashplugin-nonfree (open): «mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory»; severity: critical; opened: 2016-10-20; last modified: 2016-10-21. |
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| 03:18.40 | missmbob | not happy that it's so close to stretch freezing. hope they figure something ou t |
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| 05:57.53 | sudosudosudo | new question: Is anyone able to assist with setting up wireless drivers for intel 8260 on debian 8.6 on a thinkpad? |
| 05:58.00 | sudosudosudo | neb* |
| 05:58.11 | sudosudosudo | newb* |
| 05:59.08 | ransur0t | you would need the iwlwifi package installed to start |
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| 06:00.22 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: How would I go about adding a repository for apt to get the package for me? |
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| 06:02.43 | ransur0t | apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 06:09.25 | awal1 | sudosudosudo, firmware-iwlwifi in in non-free |
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| 06:09.58 | awal1 | you need non-free component in your apt sources file if you dont have it yet |
| 06:10.24 | awal1 | is in non-free ^ |
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| 06:11.13 | ransur0t | sudosudosudo: make sure you have 'jessie main contrib non-free' in your sources.list entry for jessie |
| 06:11.37 | ransur0t | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 06:24.17 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: Got it added. I pulled down and installed firmware iwlwifi. |
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| 06:27.14 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: I ran apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi and then modprobe -r iwlwifi ; mod probe iwlwifi |
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| 06:28.09 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: Those were in the documentation to run. I still don't see any ability to connect to wifi. Any idea where I went wrong? |
| 06:28.46 | ransur0t | what desktop are you using? |
| 06:29.43 | ransur0t | try apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome |
| 06:29.59 | ransur0t | you will want a gui app to manage wireless networks |
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| 06:32.34 | sudosudosudo | installed 0.9.10.0-2 |
| 06:34.12 | benlue | sudosudosudo, if you using network-manager please use your default network config :D |
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| 06:35.13 | ransur0t | sudosudosudo: so, if it installed, is the applet added to gnome panel? if so, can you see available wireless networks? |
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| 06:36.27 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: I'm only seeing the ethernet connection. still no wireless gui. I am supposed to be running xfce |
| 06:37.00 | awal1 | an easy way: reboot |
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| 06:37.47 | benlue | awal1, after mod probe iwlwifi? |
| 06:37.52 | sudosudosudo | okay, rebooting. Let see if that helps :) |
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| 06:38.28 | awal1 | benlue, not necessarily, but just if any |
| 06:38.34 | ransur0t | or ifconfig up wlan0 |
| 06:38.47 | ransur0t | err, wlan0 up |
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| 06:39.07 | benlue | take a look in dmesg |
| 06:39.24 | benlue | if any troubles with wifi |
| 06:39.58 | sudosudosudo | after reboot all is the same |
| 06:40.15 | benlue | sudosudosudo, dmesg output? |
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| 06:45.04 | benlue | sudo dmsg | grep -i wlan0 |
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| 06:47.27 | sudosudosudo | benlue: no output for sudo dmesg | grep -i wlan0 |
| 06:48.17 | benlue | :/ Thats an Notebook or PC with WIFI Dongle? |
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| 06:49.08 | sudosudosudo | Thinkpad t560. intel 8260 wireless card onboard |
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| 06:49.42 | benlue | Realtec Inc? |
| 06:49.49 | ransur0t | sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi |
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| 06:51.02 | benlue | Ahh "intel" sorry |
| 06:51.26 | sudosudosudo | intel 8269NGW to be exact |
| 06:51.36 | sudosudosudo | intel 8260NGW to be exact |
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| 06:53.03 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: mosprobe command does nothing for me |
| 06:53.25 | benlue | sudosudosudo, are you root? |
| 06:53.32 | ransur0t | no output is good, just making sure module is loaded |
| 06:53.36 | sudosudosudo | benlue: yes |
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| 06:53.51 | sudosudosudo | ifconfig is only showing eth0 |
| 06:54.00 | sudosudosudo | and loopback |
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| 06:54.14 | ransur0t | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 06:54.49 | sudosudosudo | Error while getting interface flags: No such device |
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| 06:55.52 | ransur0t | sudosudosudo: if on xfce, you may want to install wicd |
| 06:57.15 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: installing network manager right meow |
| 06:57.42 | ransur0t | wicd may integrate better with xfce ... |
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| 07:00.28 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: rebooted. seeing wind but not seeing any wireless networks |
| 07:01.06 | sudosudosudo | wicd |
| 07:02.14 | babilen | Isn't wicd dead (again) ? |
| 07:02.55 | babilen | sudosudosudo: IIRC you have to configure the actual interface wicd should use |
| 07:03.36 | ransur0t | lspci -nn | grep Network |
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| 07:03.48 | ransur0t | is your intel card listed? |
| 07:04.20 | sudosudosudo | ransur0t: intel card is not listed only eth0 |
| 07:04.29 | babilen | Installed firmware? |
| 07:04.49 | sudosudosudo | babilen: my machine isn't seeing my wlan adapter |
| 07:04.50 | babilen | Ah, if its not even listed there you might have a bigger problem |
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| 07:05.05 | ransur0t | 8260 is supported in iwlwifi, not sure about 8269 |
| 07:05.06 | babilen | Which card is it? |
| 07:05.14 | sudosudosudo | installed firmware |
| 07:05.19 | sudosudosudo | intel 8260 |
| 07:05.31 | babilen | Ah, a T560 .. which kernel are you using, sudosudosudo ? |
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| 07:06.54 | sudosudosudo | yes t560 :) I'm running Jessie 8.6 with 3.16.0.4 |
| 07:07.02 | sudosudosudo | think the kernel is too old? |
| 07:07.12 | babilen | You definitely need a newer kernel |
| 07:07.16 | babilen | dpkg: bdo kernel |
| 07:07.16 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 07:07.38 | babilen | (along with a bunch of other newer software - that hardware is considerably newer than jessie) |
| 07:07.54 | babilen | I run stretch/sid on that platform and it works well |
| 07:07.57 | sudosudosudo | yeah, this machine was built two months ago |
| 07:08.22 | sudosudosudo | I'm such a newb i was just wanting to run a stable release. |
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| 07:08.42 | babilen | Sure, I totally understand that, but the hardware was released after the kernel you are running was finalised. |
| 07:08.54 | babilen | Is the graphic side working well? |
| 07:09.12 | sudosudosudo | what would you recommend? |
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| 07:09.33 | sudosudosudo | Honestly it looks okay. I haven't really dug too much into the graphics |
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| 07:09.37 | babilen | I'd recommend installing a backported kernel, firmware and microcode from jessie-backports to begin with |
| 07:11.35 | babilen | An entry such as "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free" would work fine, run "apt update" and continue with "apt install -t jessie-backports install firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-iwlwifi linux-image-amd64 intel-microcode" |
| 07:11.56 | babilen | You'd add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:12.24 | kirabi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:13.18 | babilen | kirabi: You might want to do that in a /query, choose a better password and setup CertFP to begin with. |
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| 07:14.24 | kirabi | bailen thanks just testing the instructions |
| 07:14.34 | kirabi | this kinda confusing |
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| 07:15.00 | babilen | kirabi: It's a good rule of thumb to always /query nickserv (and other services) rather than /msg'ing them :) |
| 07:15.30 | ransur0t | babilen: is there a way on freenode to auto-identify using ssl cert like on OFTC? |
| 07:15.38 | kirabi | i reaized that I was doing it on debian |
| 07:15.51 | kirabi | maybe should have done it on freenode |
| 07:15.52 | babilen | ransur0t: There is, it supports CertFP and SASL |
| 07:15.58 | babilen | recommends CertFP |
| 07:15.58 | kirabi | instructions on very clear |
| 07:16.25 | babilen | Either way this isn't particularly on-topic in #debian. Feel free to ask in #freenode or #help |
| 07:16.39 | ransur0t | thx, I'll look into it ... I tried to setup like oftc, didn't work ;) |
| 07:16.44 | ransur0t | right, gotcha |
| 07:16.50 | babilen | np |
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| 07:52.29 | donttrustem | morning guys, I am trying to debug a cifs mount issue but not having much luck in finding why I am getting this when I run mount -a mount: failed to parse mount options |
| 07:53.20 | donttrustem | is there a debug mode for mount |
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| 07:57.58 | nbags | donttrustem: whats in your mount options? can u add/remove them one-by-one to eliminate the problematic one? |
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| 07:58.13 | donttrustem | nbags: found the issue :) |
| 07:58.19 | donttrustem | bloody typo |
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| 08:17.54 | atrament | hello, I see the glinka machine (serving manpages) is not serving manpages... I don't know where to report it to the proper admin |
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| 08:20.00 | ahmed751995 | excuse me , when will debian "stretch " release as stable ? |
| 08:20.50 | atrament | ahmed751995: as far as I know "when it will be ready", which typically takes about 1.5-2years |
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| 08:24.55 | ahmed751995 | atrament: there is no releasing date ? |
| 08:25.49 | atrament | no, but you can use it anyway, testing / stretch is okay for everyday use in most aspects |
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| 08:27.11 | ahmed751995 | atrament: thanks alot |
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| 08:29.23 | atrament | if you track it by codename in your /etc/apt/sources, you will be good when it releases anyway |
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| 08:31.55 | r3m1 | hi |
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| 08:32.28 | r3m1 | how to add a directory to LD_LIBRARY_PATH for all users ? |
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| 08:34.10 | r3m1 | I 'm used to add some custom dir in the bashrc for example |
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| 08:35.32 | r3m1 | but I have an embedded computer running debian 7, and I put some custom executables in /usr/local/bin |
| 08:36.09 | r3m1 | which use libraries that I put in /usr/local/lib |
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| 08:36.34 | r3m1 | strangely enough, the exec cant load the libraries without manually updating LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 08:37.05 | r3m1 | I would like the system to add /usr/local/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all time at startup |
| 08:37.15 | r3m1 | end of monolog |
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| 08:39.11 | yossarianuk | hi - just wondering if anyone can help me with postfix relay (on debian systems).. |
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| 08:46.18 | n0wh3re | so, Im having trouble with my wifi. having to use m@cchanger to get temp wifi. Trying to install parrot to an extra internal ssd alongside windows but its saying the contents cannot be found from the cd even though its usb.. but would it be possible, to install vanilla debian, and just copy the packages out of my parr0t liveusb? for installation on vanilla debian? |
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| 08:47.30 | n0wh3re | Im having trouble with the gnu-versions reverting back to the permenant address. so i figured i would install parrot and *revert* it keeping the tools i need while having an active connection. |
| 08:48.12 | n0wh3re | if thats possible? or what should i do. as i dont have the tools needed or i would start fresh. |
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| 08:52.02 | jelly | n0wh3re: what's parr0t? |
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| 08:52.14 | n0wh3re | security based distro like kali |
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| 08:52.21 | n0wh3re | frozenbox |
| 08:52.25 | jelly | why not ask them? |
| 08:52.48 | n0wh3re | its debian based. |
| 08:52.53 | n0wh3re | i did. :) |
| 08:53.42 | babilen | dpkg: based on debian |
| 08:53.43 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 08:54.35 | n0wh3re | okies, friend - |
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| 08:55.05 | PTO_ | systemd: Job dev-pve-data.device/start timeout. What can cause this to fail? A manual mount /var/lib/vz (from fstab) works. |
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| 08:59.38 | jelly | PTO_: which debian release is this? Are you running a custom kernel? |
| 08:59.52 | PTO_ | Jessie |
| 09:00.09 | PTO_ | I run proxmox ve build of jessie |
| 09:00.15 | PTO_ | *fresh install |
| 09:00.34 | jelly | um, proxmox makes so many changes it can't really be considered debian any more |
| 09:00.37 | jelly | !proxmox |
| 09:00.37 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
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| 09:01.12 | PTO_ | I can try there, but a lot of google posts suggest its a debian problem |
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| 09:01.50 | jelly | it's possible, and if you can reproduce it on an actual Debian installation we'll try to help |
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| 09:02.40 | PTO_ | I will try the proxmox channel first, then i will try and reproduce. Thx anyway |
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| 10:10.11 | gebruiker | how can I remove a task, including the dependencies? |
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| 11:05.58 | d3xter | hey guys. is there any cli which lets me backup specific configuration files easily? (apart from "cp" ^^) |
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| 11:09.55 | bezaban | d3fc0n: cat.. what requirements do you have that cp doesn't fulfill? |
| 11:10.02 | bezaban | d3fc0n: sorry |
| 11:10.08 | bezaban | d3xter: ^ |
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| 11:18.32 | jelly | d3xter: etckeeper ? |
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| 11:22.50 | TrevorH | I've just done the wheezy->jessie update on my little arm box and I was expecting /etc/init.d to be almost empty but I have a lot of files left in there that appear to duplicate things that are also under /lib/systemd/system - is that expected? |
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| 11:23.19 | TrevorH | for example I have /etc/init.d/bind9 and /lib/system/system/bind9.service |
| 11:24.10 | TomTomTo1 | TrevorH: the package in jessie still provides the init script. |
| 11:24.59 | TrevorH | so how do I know that it won't attempt to start it twice? |
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| 11:27.40 | d3xter | TrevorH: either systemd or init will start as pid1, not both |
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| 11:28.10 | d3xter | bezaban: versioning, remote backups is what i'm missing right now |
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| 11:28.38 | TomTomTo1 | i think the init script is not being run if a unit file of the same name has been found. but i'm not entirely sure. |
| 11:28.42 | d3xter | jelly: its seems like it manages the whole /etc-folder |
| 11:29.00 | jelly | d3xter: I bet it can be configured! |
| 11:29.07 | TrevorH | pid 1 is /sbin/init which is a symlink to /lib/systemd/systemd |
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| 11:30.14 | d3xter | jelly: hm, yeah probably with .gitignore and stuff. will check it out |
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| 11:30.42 | bezaban | d3xter: there are lots of alternatives, currenlty I use a homegrown script as a frontend to rdiff-backup |
| 11:31.02 | d3xter | TrevorH: did you take a look inside the bind9 init-script? IIRC on jessie the init-scripts just call systemd if it is running |
| 11:31.10 | bezaban | if I could only remember one that was mentioned here that I wanted to check out.. |
| 11:31.32 | jelly | TrevorH: packages in jessie that have support for both systemd services and init scripts all have wrapper code to use systemd stuff when available |
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| 11:31.57 | jelly | TrevorH: this is probably documented in the release notes, but I can't be bothered to look it up |
| 11:32.31 | jelly | !sing sussudio |
| 11:32.31 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
| 11:32.34 | TrevorH | I saw stuff about removing old files which I did and I'm still left with 52 files in there |
| 11:33.23 | jelly | TrevorH: that's fine. However, it's better to purge any packages that got removed but still have leftover stuff in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 11:34.23 | jelly | !purge |
| 11:34.23 | dpkg | "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» (note: before wheezy, you can't 'apt-get purge' a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>. |
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| 11:36.25 | TrevorH | I'm used to CentOS 7 which also uses systemd and there I have the grand total of 5 files in that directory and 2 of those aren't real initscripts |
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| 11:37.38 | jelly | most packages in debian try to keep support for bot systemd and sysvinit available, so users can pick whichever |
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| 11:37.50 | jelly | both* |
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| 11:38.07 | gr8 | Hi, I want to get the latest firefox version that is available for GNU/Linux. Can i get that via https://mozilla.debian.net/ ? |
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| 11:38.22 | gr8 | I mean, jessie-backports |
| 11:38.30 | TrevorH | yeah, we have a similar idea in CentOS but the packages there tend to be of the form e.g. clamav-systemd and clamav-sysvinit |
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| 11:39.43 | TrevorH | well they all appear to be owned by installed packages so it looks like it's as designed |
| 11:42.03 | jelly | gr8: go to https://mozilla.debian.net/ ; pick your debian release, and firefox branch "release", and use the resulting repo, I guess |
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| 11:45.55 | gr8 | jelly: The problem is I get: W: GPG error: http://mozilla.debian.net jessie-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 85A3D26506C4AE2A |
| 11:47.16 | jelly | gr8: that's explained on the web page. |
| 11:48.34 | jelly | gr8: install pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring |
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| 11:48.58 | gr8 | Yeah. After the check command given I get: gpg: keyblock resource `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg': file open error |
| 11:49.11 | jelly | you don't have to check it, really |
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| 11:49.51 | jelly | if you choose to, > (requires the debian-keyring package to be installed) |
| 11:50.06 | gr8 | well. ok it works now |
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| 11:50.41 | gr8 | but the version I get from that is still 45.4.0 which I had before |
| 11:50.43 | jelly | but pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring is available in normal jessie repo, so you have some sort of trust path without having to manually download .deb or .asc |
| 11:51.12 | jelly | gr8: run "apt-get update". Then run "apt-cache policy firefox" |
| 11:51.45 | jelly | gr8: then figure out if you want firefox-esr to remain installed |
| 11:52.10 | gr8 | eh. It says I didn't have firefox installed |
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| 11:52.22 | gr8 | but I've been using it all the time lol |
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| 11:52.57 | gr8 | oh, no I've been using firefox-esr |
| 11:52.58 | jelly | You have firefox-esr package installed |
| 11:53.01 | gr8 | yup |
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| 11:54.09 | gr8 | ok awesome! Thanks for your help :) |
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| 11:54.37 | gr8 | I guess I can purge firefox-esr now? |
| 11:55.06 | gr8 | wow the new version is noticeable faster |
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| 11:57.06 | TomTomTo1 | it's possible that you have packages that depend on firefox-esr. gnome is an example. |
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| 11:57.53 | TomTomTo1 | so at least take a look at what apt tries to remove, if you do so. |
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| 12:01.00 | gry | i broke my sound again, alsa-base is installed, amixer has everything up to the top, built-in and headset both make no sound. where do i go from there? how do i troubleshoot? |
| 12:01.15 | gry | i use it so rarely that i can't tell when i broke it, yesterday or a month ago |
| 12:01.53 | jelly | gry: which debian release? |
| 12:01.56 | jelly | !alsa checklist |
| 12:01.56 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 12:31.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 12:32.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | i keep getting alot of nmt watchdog hack lockup on cpu # |
| 12:32.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | for my asus laptop |
| 12:32.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | X205T |
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| 12:35.45 | merethan | Hi all |
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| 12:44.34 | Fluggonaut | !why aptitude |
| 12:44.34 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. <lenny->squeeze>, <squeeze->wheezy>). http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
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| 13:42.44 | cylince | hi folks, i'm looking for some direction on capturing traffic from a cisco span port using tcpdump |
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| 13:43.32 | ChrisH | cylince: what is special about a 'cisco span' port? |
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| 13:48.11 | ElPasmo | Hi all, I'm just did a fresh install of debian (1st time, coming from ubuntu) and I'm having problems building my WiFi driver. I'm using a broadcom BCM43224 and when I try to 'make' the driver I get an error: "implicit declaration of function 'rdtscl'". I've installed build-essential and linux-headers-4.7.0-1-686-pae. I don't know how to proceed from here. |
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| 13:50.02 | cylince | nothing special about the span port |
| 13:50.28 | cylince | I think the kernel is unable to process the packets |
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| 13:55.31 | ChrisH | ElPasmo: run /msg dpkg b43 ; then follow the ideas offered by the bot. |
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| 13:55.49 | ElPasmo | ty ChrisH |
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| 13:57.33 | ChrisH | ElPasmo: if there are still question, continue to ask here with more details |
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| 13:59.39 | ChrisH | cylince: Special is: SPAN seems to be the port monitoring offered by Cisco. I googled for cisco span wireshark and found this information. Do you see traffic using tcpdump or not? tcpdump is not expected to understand whats coming in. |
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| 14:01.42 | cylince | I'm able to run tcpdump and see the traffic, but i think the kernel is dropping some of the traffic due to high throughput |
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| 14:04.18 | cylince | ChrisH I think netstat will show me dropped traffic |
| 14:05.03 | cylince | Do you or anyone else on here know if the kernal can handle high throughput. I don't think it's a problem with tcpdump?? |
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| 14:09.32 | ChrisH | Normal approach is: tcpdump -w FILENAME -i interface SOME-FILTERS and then use wireshark to analyse. the kernel should be able to handle currrent 1GB and 10GBit/s Port speed... unless you are not running Pentium III with IDE Disk |
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| 14:15.00 | cylince | ok, let me check on the cpu/disk |
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| 14:52.04 | Stadtpirat | Hey people, I have trouble with bash-completion on Debian 8. It works for all commands I know, except for 'apt'. 'apt <TAB>' just lists all files in the current directory. ('apt-get <TAB>' works perfectly, by the way). Any ideas? |
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| 14:53.06 | croddy | Stadtpirat i've noticed that too. i don't think yours is broken, but that the completion data just needs to be improved for the 'apt' command |
| 14:53.33 | greycat | Sounds like you want to file a bug report. Not sure whether that belongs to the apt package, or the bash-completion package. |
| 14:54.22 | Stadtpirat | croddy, Ah great, so it is not only me. THanks for the reply. |
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| 14:56.07 | croddy | interestingly i can't find anything immediately obvious that provides the completions that *are* working. |
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| 14:56.45 | gebruiker | !backport xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin |
| 14:56.57 | gebruiker | !check-backport xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin |
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| 14:57.14 | croddy | oh, my completions are working for some commands because i switched to zsh a few months ago. right. |
| 14:57.16 | Stadtpirat | looking in /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ it has no file 'apt'. |
| 14:57.20 | croddy | i think the bug should be filed against bash-completion. |
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| 15:04.38 | cruncher | i would say against apt, as it has its own completion file |
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| 15:05.01 | cruncher | the one from apt-get is installed by package bash-completion |
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| 15:07.20 | jelly | gebruiker: you probably want /msg judd checkbackport xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin |
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| 15:13.56 | cruncher | well, respectively there is the problem, thee is no bash-completion file in apt in stable |
| 15:14.02 | cruncher | *there |
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| 15:16.11 | zee | Debian 8.6 - My SSH hangs/freezes when I do commands such as ls, or use mc etc. |
| 15:16.23 | zee | have anyone else experienced this before? |
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| 15:17.22 | spacebug^ | zee: not me. Only when using SSH? From the machine or to? Or both? |
| 15:17.41 | zee | To the machine. |
| 15:17.46 | spacebug^ | hum ok |
| 15:18.03 | zee | Everything is fine, as long as I dont do commands, that lists more than 5-7 lines |
| 15:18.07 | greycat | sounds like it *might* be networking related (MTU?) |
| 15:18.26 | zee | When I go into a directory, and LS it, if it has more than 5-6 lines to show me, the connection hangs/dies/freezes |
| 15:19.02 | zee | I also noticed, that when I do FTP from this server, to another server, I get connection refused etc, when I want to LS on the remote server |
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| 15:21.04 | spacebug^ | zee: the last thing has to do with active/passive transfer and if one or both machines are behind a router/firewall. To fix this open a port range (usually on the server) for connections used when trasfer files. Also specify the same port range in the server config |
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| 15:21.45 | zee | we havent gotten this issue on any other servers! |
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| 15:22.05 | Stadtpirat | Is the problematic server in the same network as the others? |
| 15:22.19 | greycat | if it's not just ssh then this definitely points toward network interface misconfiguration |
| 15:23.40 | zee | I guess you could say that. We have 25 servers with hetzner |
| 15:23.48 | zee | so, a part of the same network - probably |
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| 15:27.43 | cruncher | Stadtpirat, i didnt mention your name before, hope you read it |
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| 15:28.56 | Stadtpirat | cruncher, no i didn't, thanks. Yeah, there isn't. But there also is none in https://github.com/scop/bash-completion/tree/master/completions |
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| 15:29.35 | Stadtpirat | cruncher, I am out of the loop. Isn't apt relatively new? Haven't used that in ages and in Debian 8 bam it is there all of a sudden. (I was using debian 6 previously) |
| 15:29.47 | cruncher | Stadtpirat, as i said, the completion file for apt is in the apt package, not in bash-compeltion |
| 15:29.55 | cruncher | dont ask me why |
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| 15:30.06 | Stadtpirat | cruncher, oh now I understand |
| 15:30.33 | zee | What the heck is going on!! Why does the ssh connection freeze/die/whatever when I do this! |
| 15:30.54 | zee | I have never, ever experienced this |
| 15:30.58 | cruncher | zee, does it happen as well when connecting from another machine? |
| 15:31.02 | zee | yea |
| 15:31.07 | greycat | Stadtpirat: yes, the apt command is new. In wheezy? |
| 15:31.09 | zee | From everywhere |
| 15:31.15 | greycat | No, new in jessie. |
| 15:32.09 | greycat | zee: you can check the MTU with "ip link show" but this is not really my strong suit. |
| 15:32.29 | cruncher | zee, did you check the mtu like greycat suggested? |
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| 15:32.38 | zee | MTU is 1500 |
| 15:32.50 | greycat | sounds normal |
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| 15:33.17 | greycat | Not sure how to advise you to check the duplex... there are multiple commands and it seems to depend on which driver it's using. |
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| 15:33.44 | Stadtpirat | I used aptitude previously because I often type apt-get search when I want to type apt-cache search. Problem solved with apt, too. But apt search returns such an ugly list, especially when more than 6 results. What are your opinions on that? Just curious. What package manager do you prefer? |
| 15:33.48 | greycat | Are the other servers on that same network also using MTU 1500? |
| 15:33.53 | zee | yes |
| 15:33.59 | zee | Everything is 1500 |
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| 15:34.26 | zee | Its like... "Too much information has to be shown - so Ill just shut down the SSH connection" |
| 15:34.26 | Stadtpirat | zee, is the server new or already in production? |
| 15:34.30 | zee | in production |
| 15:34.37 | Stadtpirat | so its a sudden change? |
| 15:35.01 | zee | Yes Stadtpirat |
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| 15:36.35 | zee | I guess I could try and lower the MTU with 20 bytes.. |
| 15:37.16 | jelly | |ifei5g00d, |ifei5g0_: your real ip address is peeking out. |
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| 15:40.20 | veek | how do you search debian's bug db by email - trying to locate a bug i filed |
| 15:40.25 | veek | using reportbug |
| 15:41.12 | cruncher | zee, are your clients debian too? |
| 15:41.28 | zee | I am connecting to the servers, via a VPN |
| 15:41.43 | zee | so It might be an MTU issue with the VPN |
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| 15:43.04 | cruncher | veek, https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ adn see the section "Searching bug reports", there are some ways of searching bugs |
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| 15:43.19 | cruncher | although i dont know if its possible to search for email |
| 15:43.43 | veek | yeah .. saw that.. very irritating because i just filed it a few days back |
| 15:43.53 | veek | and who knows where it's gone |
| 15:44.27 | veek | reportbug should keep the numbers somewhere .config/? |
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| 15:46.56 | veek | it's not listing anything.. it was in unattended.. my laptop freezes randomly |
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| 15:47.34 | veek | ah 'unattended-upgrades' |
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| 15:47.57 | cruncher | veek, but you got an emaila fter filing, didnt you? you deleted them? |
| 15:48.16 | veek | ah hmm i don't remember seeing it lemme check |
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| 15:51.11 | veek | ah well.. nothings done about it |
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| 15:51.42 | ghoti | So .. I have a terminal that is iTerm2 on a Mac. My cursor is an inverse block. I SSH in to a server and re-attach a GNU Screen session, and I have no cursor. Within screen, I can `reset` to reset my terminal, but it doesn't bring back the block cursor. |
| 15:51.59 | ghoti | Is there a VT100 sequence or something that I can use to define what cursor my terminal should be showing? |
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| 15:53.07 | greycat | ghoti: that would depend on the terminal |
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| 15:53.45 | ghoti | greycat: that's why I mentioned iTerm2 and GNU Screen. |
| 15:53.57 | greycat | Oh. There were multiple lines. I see. |
| 15:54.16 | greycat | I don't know anything about iTerm2. |
| 15:54.26 | ghoti | It's "just another terminal emulator". |
| 15:54.35 | ghoti | The same thing happens to me sometimes using xterm. |
| 15:54.38 | greycat | reads the rest of the PREVIOUS half of the question... |
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| 15:54.58 | greycat | if you're just looking to restore cursor visibility after some app has issues the "cursor_invisible" command, try tput cnorm |
| 15:55.28 | ghoti | WORKED! Awesome. Thank you very much! |
| 15:55.29 | greycat | (the other direction: tput civis) |
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| 16:03.31 | cruncher | zee, try ping -c 4 -M do -s 1472 ip (ip being the ip address of the ssh server) |
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| 16:13.45 | CtrlC | Is there any way to have a non interactive "dpkg-reconfigure locales"? |
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| 16:19.55 | cruncher | CtrlC, dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive locales |
| 16:20.28 | cruncher | CtrlC, but you could have looked that up yourself with man dpkg-reconfigure |
| 16:20.50 | CtrlC | right. Thank you. |
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| 16:42.59 | aboulafia1 | hi, when I print my test page with cups I get 8 pages test miniatures on the same sheet. |
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| 17:28.26 | nmschulte | http://lists.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/pipermail/vpnc-devel/2009-February/002990.html -- answer to my questions. |
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| 17:46.07 | sweb | i need to run ftp server on debian with no system users ... which package is better for that ... ? |
| 17:47.01 | sweb | for example simple txtfile for user:password:jailpath |
| 17:47.14 | somiaj | might depend on use, but vsftpd might fit your needs. I usually suggest sftp over ssh if at all possible |
| 17:47.16 | sweb | user : password : jailpath |
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| 17:47.43 | sweb | somiaj: i dont wanna create system user for my ftp access |
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| 17:49.14 | somiaj | sweb: have you seen if vsftpd lets you create users internally to it. |
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| 17:51.42 | somiaj | sweb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/575523/how-to-setup-virtual-users-for-vsftpd-with-access-to-a-specific-sub-directory |
| 17:52.23 | sweb | somiaj: thank you i will try it |
| 17:53.04 | greycat | Why is anyone setting up a new FTP server in 2016? |
| 17:53.26 | spar01101011 | i want to play a game with a 32-bit libGL dependency on Jessie. B.c. of kernel+drivers backports (that i need) its unviable to install with apt. Any idears / tricks? |
| 17:53.53 | Anselmo | because ftp can be useful sometimes. . . |
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| 17:55.01 | somiaj | spar01101011: have you enabled multiarc? What graphic drivers / gl libaries are you using? |
| 17:55.06 | somiaj | !multiarch |
| 17:55.07 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
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| 17:57.20 | spar01101011 | somiaj, yup oc i added i386 bit. Im unsure of all the dependencies but atm. the gamebreaker is libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686:i386 -> depends on libgl1-mesa-swx11 which is not compatible with my backported nvidia kernel blob. |
| 17:57.45 | somiaj | spar01101011: you just need the 32bit libgl stuff for nvidia from jessie-backports |
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| 17:58.19 | somiaj | ,v libgl1-nvidia-glx |
| 17:58.20 | judd | Package: libgl1-nvidia-glx on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 352.79-10~bpo8+2; stretch/non-free: 367.44-3; sid/non-free: 367.44-3; experimental/non-free: 370.28-1 |
| 17:58.46 | somiaj | spar01101011: if using the nvidia non-free driver, apt-get -t jessie-backports install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 |
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| 18:01.02 | spar01101011 | somiaj, thank you! It didn't show up in the apt listing for some reason. Il be sure to check with the webpage instead next time. |
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| 18:02.56 | datasmurf | Hello debians, debian does not send local mails about the system status aka daily logs to the root account by default? Or did i mess up something? |
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| 18:05.32 | irandms | datasmurf: You can set up logwatch to do that, but afaik there isn't any default to do anything like that. |
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| 18:05.50 | irandms | !logwatch |
| 18:05.50 | dpkg | Logwatch is a modular log analyser, which runs via cron each day, parses _yesterday_'s log files by default and returns summarised log output by service. Empty /etc/logwatch/* directories are intentional, see /usr/share/doc/logwatch/HOWTO-Customize-LogWatch.gz. http://www.logwatch.org/ |
| 18:05.56 | somiaj | datasmurf: only a few things send emails to root by default on a debian system (at least for mine) |
| 18:06.00 | spar01101011 | it puzzles me that some i386 packages is in the apt-cache and some are not. |
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| 18:06.36 | somiaj | spar01101011: there are some i386 only packages that are not in amd64. But usually a package can be both. |
| 18:06.50 | datasmurf | okay thx i'll have a look at logwatch and a deeper look at the syslog facilities on debian |
| 18:06.51 | somiaj | spar01101011: check apt-cache show packagename foo, it should show you both. |
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| 18:07.39 | spar01101011 | somiaj, makes sense. Thx! |
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| 18:17.31 | elliot007 | hey I'm trying lightdm and wondering how to enable lightdm-webkit2-greeter |
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| 18:23.36 | awal1 | elliot007, lightdm config is /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf |
| 18:24.31 | elliot007 | awal1: but its not installed i guess, there is no package for lightdm-webkit2-greeter, |
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| 18:26.43 | awal1 | elliot007, no trace of that pkg in debian. what that pkg does exactly? |
| 18:27.20 | awal1 | ,v lightdm-webkit2-greeter |
| 18:27.21 | judd | No package named 'lightdm-webkit2-greeter' was found in amd64. |
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| 18:27.52 | elliot007 | i don't exactly know but its like webkit2 greeter, i'm trying to install a theme for lightdm and it asked me to enable webkit2-greeter |
| 18:28.13 | yell0w_viper | Hey, I'm using "iptables -I INPUT -s xx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j DROP" but it's not working (still letting the IP through) any ideas? |
| 18:28.50 | elliot007 | https://github.com/artur9010/lightdm-webkit-material/wiki/installation |
| 18:29.08 | awal1 | elliot007, no clue. I use wdm |
| 18:29.52 | elliot007 | awal1: is it lightweight?? |
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| 18:30.59 | awal1 | elliot007, sure. lighter then lightdm |
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| 18:33.29 | elliot007 | is it like discontinued I'm not able to find much about it |
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| 18:34.21 | greycat | ,v wdm |
| 18:34.22 | judd | Package: wdm on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.28-13+deb7u1; jessie: 1.28-17; stretch: 1.28-19; sid: 1.28-19 |
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| 18:47.25 | awal1 | elliot007, not discontinued |
| 18:47.51 | awal1 | still maintained by Exel Beckert |
| 18:49.05 | awal1 | Axel Beckert |
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| 18:54.34 | teraflops | ,v midori |
| 18:54.36 | judd | Package: midori on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie-backports: 0.5.11-ds1-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.5.11-ds1-4; sid: 0.5.11-ds1-4; experimental: 0.5.12~wk2-exp1 |
| 18:54.38 | TomTomTo1 | wdm has been dead for about ten years. |
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| 18:55.12 | greycat | Does "dead" mean "stable"? |
| 18:55.41 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:56.01 | teraflops | look at midori., xchat2 and so on |
| 18:56.31 | missmbob | xchat2 should be removed |
| 18:56.32 | TomTomTo1 | i guess it might mean it reached a state of perfection in 2005 and therefor doesn't need further development, but i doubt it. |
| 18:57.12 | teraflops | nah it happens everywhere. it's not a debian thing |
| 18:57.21 | greycat | If it does what you want, then why does it have to be *changed* all the time? |
| 18:57.21 | teraflops | TomTomTo1: hehe |
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| 18:58.42 | teraflops | greycat: well what about patching for bugs? |
| 18:58.52 | teraflops | taking care of * |
| 18:58.54 | greycat | Sure, if you find some. |
| 19:01.16 | teraflops | I think packagers/maintainer are sentimental. that's why you find enclosed. good xchat2 in debian repos :P |
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| 19:01.49 | teraflops | oops I meant xchat |
| 19:01.57 | awal1 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572372 |
| 19:01.59 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/572372 in wnpp (closed): «ITA: wdm -- WINGs Display Manager - an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look»; severity: normal; opened: 2010-03-03; last modified: 2014-08-23. |
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| 19:02.09 | teraflops | sorry I'm on the smart assume phone |
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| 19:03.19 | teraflops | stops typing |
| 19:05.24 | n4dir | "why does it have to be changed all the time" is a mighty good question in my book. Many things come to mind. |
| 19:05.57 | greycat | I don't use a display manager, but if you use wdm and if it does what you want, then by all means enjoy it. |
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| 19:09.35 | spar01101011 | greycat, don't use a display manager? |
| 19:09.54 | greycat | I login on the text console and type startx. |
| 19:09.58 | n4dir | me too |
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| 19:11.00 | spar01101011 | ah sure. oldschool. |
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| 19:11.56 | n4dir | well: i never could figure out what is the purpose of a display-manager (the advantage ). |
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| 19:12.26 | greycat | If you have a bunch of dumb X terminals, and if you run XDMCP from the display manager... |
| 19:12.35 | greycat | but almost nobody does that now. |
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| 19:13.14 | n4dir | yeah, i heard of situations where a display manager can be handy. But nothing i do anyway. |
| 19:13.19 | yann-kaelig | That work. I have changed the level to 9, got my gtkterm for stretch :) |
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| 19:18.04 | yann-kaelig | well, really nice the tools on debian. |
| 19:18.29 | ar1el | hey someone help me ... i want do find files in *.xml with contains one determined string e change with sed |
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| 19:18.40 | ar1el | find /opt/java -iname *.xml -exec grep -i --color '10.20.100.41:50000/PG5TESTE' {} \; && sed s/'10.20.100.41:50000\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0;enableSysplexWLB=true;enableAlternateServerListFirstConnect=true;clientRerouteAlternateServerName=10.20.100.41,10.20.100.42;clientRerouteAlternatePortNumber=50000,50000;maxRetriesForClientReroute=2;retryIntervalForClientReroute=5'/'10.20.100.122:50100\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0'/g |
| 19:18.44 | ar1el | what's wrong |
| 19:18.56 | ar1el | i can use | xargs ? |
| 19:19.11 | LearnerWind | Hi. If i install 'firmware-realtek' will my computer be slower than if i install only: 'rtl_nic/rtl8411-1.fw' ? |
| 19:19.29 | greycat | Your quoting in your sed command is insane.... |
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| 19:19.53 | ar1el | but works... he don't take the output only |
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| 19:20.03 | greycat | More to the point, your sed command doesn't appear to give any *filenames* as arguments. So it's just going to filter stdin. So it's probably waiting for you to type some input. |
| 19:20.45 | greycat | Next bug: your glob "*.xml" needs to be quoted. |
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| 19:21.26 | greycat | Most likely bug that you care about immediately: there is no connection whatsoever between the first command (find) and the second command (sed) except the check for successful exit. No output is shared or anything. |
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| 19:22.08 | greycat | Perhaps if you just told us what you're trying to do...? |
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| 19:24.39 | ar1el | grep -i --color '10.20.100.41:50000/PG5TESTE' -R * | sed -i s/'10.20.100.41:50000\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0;enableSysplexWLB=true;enableAlternateServerListFirstConnect=true;clientRerouteAlternateServerName=10.20.100.41,10.20.100.42;clientRerouteAlternatePortNumber=50000,50000;maxRetriesForClientReroute=2;retryIntervalForClientReroute=5'/'10.20.100.122:50100\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0'/g |
| 19:24.42 | ar1el | works ;} |
| 19:24.56 | ar1el | without --color :P |
| 19:25.28 | greycat | I truly can't see how that could possibly work. |
| 19:25.55 | greycat | -i is "edit files in place" but you've not given any filenames |
| 19:26.03 | greycat | (sed -i, I mean, not grep -i) |
| 19:26.18 | ar1el | yeah, are you right |
| 19:26.31 | ar1el | sed just ... substitute but don't change in file |
| 19:26.36 | ar1el | just output |
| 19:26.37 | ar1el | hehe |
| 19:26.44 | greycat | Are you trying to find all the files that contain '10.20.100.41:50000/PG5TESTE' and apply your sed command to them? |
| 19:26.55 | ar1el | yeap |
| 19:27.16 | ar1el | find all files *.xml contain 10.20.100.41:50000\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0;enableSysplexWLB=true;enableAlternateServerListFirstConnect=true;clientRerouteAlternateServerName=10.20.100.41,10.20.100.42;clientRerouteAlternatePortNumber=50000,50000;maxRetriesForClientReroute=2;retryIntervalForClientReroute=5 |
| 19:27.28 | ar1el | and apply sed to 10.20.100.122:50100\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0 |
| 19:27.56 | ar1el | the database was migrated and i need to change a string of connection |
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| 19:28.12 | greycat | find /opt/java -type f -iname '*.xml' -exec sh -c 'for f; do grep -Fq "10.20.100.41:50000/PG5TESTE" "$f" && sed -i "..." "$f"; done' x {} + |
| 19:28.27 | greycat | Not the *fastest* way, but that should be safe. |
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| 19:32.43 | ar1el | why x ? |
| 19:32.48 | ar1el | done' x {} + |
| 19:32.56 | greycat | It's a placeholder to become $0 of the script in sh -c |
| 19:33.36 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind explains it a bit. We can also explain in depth in #bash if you like. |
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| 19:36.47 | ar1el | great! works |
| 19:36.49 | ar1el | fastest |
| 19:36.50 | ar1el | find /opt/java -type f -iname '*.xml' -exec grep -Fi '10.20.100.41:50000/PG5TESTE' -l {} \; -exec sed -i s/'10.20.100.41:50000\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0;enableSysplexWLB=true;enableAlternateServerListFirstConnect=true;clientRerouteAlternateServerName=10.20.100.41,10.20.100.42;clientRerouteAlternatePortNumber=50000,50000;maxRetriesForClientReroute=2;retryIntervalForClientReroute=5'/'10.20.100.122:50100\/PG5TESTE:deferPrepares=0'/g {} \; |
| 19:36.57 | ar1el | two -exec |
| 19:36.58 | ar1el | :D |
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| 19:37.07 | ar1el | tkz man for the attention. |
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| 19:37.28 | spar01101011 | anyone know of terminal that integrates with a DE. Like ls -> right click files names etc. |
| 19:37.57 | greycat | You're very fond of this s'foo't'bar'u'baz'v quoting style, I guess. |
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| 19:39.21 | spar01101011 | who are you addressing? |
| 19:39.27 | afbss | hi |
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| 19:41.12 | SerajewelKS | spar01101011: i'm not sure that would even be that reliable, since things like the working directory come into play |
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| 19:42.10 | greycat | It would be a fairly deep project, to be sure. Strings of characters written to a terminal have no immediate connection to the names of files. |
| 19:42.37 | spar01101011 | SerajewelKS, mm.. i don't see why i would be an problem. |
| 19:42.44 | greycat | You don't? Really? |
| 19:42.57 | SerajewelKS | spar01101011: so you write it :) |
| 19:43.17 | ar1el | ? |
| 19:43.32 | greycat | ar1el: your command seems correct, but I still don't like your quoting style. |
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| 19:43.56 | spar01101011 | greycat, well there would be a "current directory". Point is i want to be able to navigate it by either clicking folder and using shortcuts or by cli. |
| 19:44.02 | ar1el | hahahaha |
| 19:44.06 | ar1el | lol :) |
| 19:44.26 | greycat | spar01101011: A terminal is like a movie screen. Something is making words appear on the screen, but you don't know what they mean, or where they come from. |
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| 19:44.43 | spar01101011 | SerajewelKS, i would love too. I put it on my todo list - think i got time in mid february 2068. ^^ |
| 19:44.49 | ar1el | my english is suckz :/ |
| 19:45.19 | greycat | ar1el: s/'foo'/'bar'/ can be rewritten as 's/foo/bar/' |
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| 19:45.25 | spar01101011 | greycat, obviously the core of the application would be some king of contextual parser. |
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| 19:45.32 | ar1el | i understand. |
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| 19:45.47 | ar1el | lol |
| 19:45.47 | ar1el | tkz |
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| 19:46.43 | spar01101011 | greycat, i might be completely wrong in my assessment of course.. ^^ (but i don't see how) |
| 19:46.52 | greycat | spar01101011: It's possible that such a thing already exists in some form. I simply don't know of it. |
| 19:47.29 | spar01101011 | greycat, yes. Unlikely someone didn't think of it before ^^ |
| 19:48.00 | spar01101011 | or mbe they didnt and it turned out be bork |
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| 19:49.50 | spar01101011 | greycat, turns out Dolphin is kinda that. With the terminal following gui but not visa-versa (hearsay) |
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| 19:51.23 | spar01101011 | (just realized im kinda polluting the channel. -> will stop now) |
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| 19:53.21 | rattking | spar01101011: I remember hearing something about a terminal emulator that was suppose to do that.. let me see if I can remember what it was called |
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| 20:00.19 | rattking | spar01101011: this is the one I was thinking of. https://www.enlightenment.org/about-terminology |
| 20:00.27 | LearnerWind | getting unreachable network on apt-get |
| 20:00.31 | LearnerWind | how do i solve it |
| 20:00.38 | LearnerWind | is that my source.lst |
| 20:00.39 | LearnerWind | ? |
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| 20:02.27 | spar01101011 | rattking, thx alot for the effort. Checking it out right now. |
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| 20:07.50 | spar01101011 | !survey |
| 20:07.50 | dpkg | survey is probably Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask. |
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| 20:14.30 | iLogic | hey guys.. I installed the lsh-server package on debian jessie and the ssh server stoped working.. cant i have both on simultaneosly? |
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| 20:15.59 | greycat | iLogic: it "Provides: ssh-server" |
| 20:16.14 | greycat | As does the openssh-server package. |
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| 20:22.44 | spar01101011 | rattking, its seems more focused on that "need porn in ma terminal" demographic. I'm looking/wishing for seamless and fast navigation. Why settle for a gui filemanager or a cli if you can have both. |
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| 20:23.02 | spar01101011 | rattking, appreciate the suggestion though |
| 20:23.54 | rattking | lol. NP.. I found that terminal much fancier then I need a terminal to be. |
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| 20:24.54 | tharkun | spar01101011: Given enough time on a terminal you endup using tab completion to get where you need to and it gets faster by the day. |
| 20:25.03 | tharkun | Until you break your kb ;P |
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| 20:32.37 | spar01101011 | tharkun, i wish felt the same - I spend most of my time in the terminal. GUI is slower for the known but faster for the unknown imo. wrt. kb. just changed from membrane to mechanical -> brought new meaning to my work ^^ |
| 20:33.27 | iLogic | greycat: what i mean is cant i run sshd along with lsh-server? because lsh-server has placed a file named sshd_not_to_be_run and added a condition to the init script preventing it to from running.. |
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| 20:33.45 | greycat | They both provide the same virtual package, so I think that means they can't coexist. |
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| 20:36.09 | iLogic | greycat: i installed lsh-server to support an old macos 9 machine on the network just for funsies, but apparently i cant connect from the android ssh client, guess i cant support both at the same time right? |
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| 20:37.11 | greycat | When you installed lsh-server, was openssh-server removed? It should have been very clear. You can also check right now to see whether openssh-server is removed. |
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| 20:39.24 | iLogic | greycat: no, i even managed to run it again by renaming this file called "sshd_not_to_be_run" placed by lsh-server on it's init.d folder |
| 20:40.09 | iLogic | greycat: it just places this conditional on the ssh init script apparently |
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| 20:41.24 | greycat | In any case, you certainly can't run both at the same time listening on the same interface/port. |
| 20:41.46 | iLogic | greycat: uhmm good call.. I just need to change ports |
| 20:42.03 | iLogic | should work, right? |
| 20:43.06 | gebruiker | it is so odd that the torrent clients on the gnu/linux platform do not have the "stop" buton but "pause" |
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| 20:45.41 | iLogic | gebruiker: why? |
| 20:46.39 | gebruiker | it is like 1 2 3 5 6 |
| 20:46.46 | gebruiker | i need 4 too |
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| 20:48.42 | iLogic | gebruiker: computers only get 0 or 1 and they do a lot more math than you |
| 20:49.03 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, they realized "stop" is an anti-feature - why would you want to stop it ^^ |
| 20:49.28 | gebruiker | spar01101011: you just sucked that argument out of nowhere |
| 20:49.31 | iLogic | see? spar01101011 gets binaries.. |
| 20:50.19 | gebruiker | iLogic: you are bored to eyh ... on a friday |
| 20:50.27 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, granted - i suck at a lot of things. literally |
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| 20:50.41 | gebruiker | must be pleasant |
| 20:50.52 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, varies |
| 20:51.06 | gebruiker | variety is good |
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| 20:51.16 | iLogic | gebruiker: yea bro, feels good man |
| 20:51.27 | iLogic | i'm done working for the day :) |
| 20:51.41 | gebruiker | yeaa! :) |
| 20:51.46 | spar01101011 | iLogic, i'm a binary person |
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| 20:51.55 | iLogic | btw is there like a debian-social? |
| 20:52.13 | spar01101011 | nope thats debian-offtopic |
| 20:52.20 | iLogic | k thx bro |
| 20:52.28 | spar01101011 | right now where are polluting a respectable channel. |
| 20:52.32 | iLogic | lol |
| 20:52.44 | iLogic | nobody was speaking so i figured.. |
| 20:54.00 | spar01101011 | iLogic, yeah... - as your partner in crime i can't absolve you ^^ |
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| 20:55.54 | spar01101011 | gebruiker, exception: variety sketch |
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| 21:05.03 | aboulafia_ | hi, 35 days after hundreds pages of documentations, i try to understand why I can connect so easy to wifi network on my Mac and not on Jessie amd64. Perhaps i should regress to 32 bits version ? |
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| 21:06.20 | spar01101011 | aboulafia_, can you connect to *any* wifi on Jessie? |
| 21:06.35 | awal1 | aboulafia_ "I can connect so easy to wifi network on my Mac and not on Jessie amd64" means exactly ? |
| 21:07.45 | aboulafia_ | spar01101011: i connect in only good conditions. Right now now my wifi access is at 50m and I see the network but i can't obtain an ip adress |
| 21:09.18 | aboulafia_ | yes, i know, i'm connected here, but not under Jessie |
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| 21:13.42 | spar01101011 | aboulafia_, what your mac model? i had the same experience with MBP 8,2 - never managed to solve it. |
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| 21:16.10 | aboulafia_ | spar01101011: i have a macbook pro 17 early 2011, but it is not on this laptop i have problem. My problem is with an Acer v3 laptop. The internal card works fine BUT i need and external usb card and antenna to access to the network. It's probably a driver problem |
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| 21:17.42 | spar01101011 | aboulafia_, probably. did you look you what driver your laptop need? |
| 21:17.51 | aboulafia_ | perhaps ndiwrapper can make a good job. I didn't try yet. But i got so much trouble to solve for software, printing... |
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| 21:18.49 | aboulafia_ | spar01101011: one antenna is awus036h alfanetwork chipset 8187. 100% reception but no connection |
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| 21:20.03 | aboulafia_ | the second one is an awus036nhrv2 chipset 81188RU. I'm connected with it now on my macbook. Same thing on Jessie |
| 21:20.57 | spar01101011 | aboulafia_, try the rtl8187 driver |
| 21:21.10 | aboulafia_ | the third one is a tplink TLWN722N i don't have the chipset in mind. Works but not alway... |
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| 21:21.58 | aboulafia_ | spar01101011: i downloaded the realtek firmware from jessie, i suppose it's that one loading with this antenna |
| 21:23.02 | aboulafia_ | did you ever used ndsiwrapper ? |
| 21:23.31 | confusedSpark | aboulafia_, you lost me |
| 21:27.02 | aboulafia_ | confusedSpark: easy : one laptop --> one internal antenna but the wifi access is too far. So, I have 3 other usb wifi card with directional antenna yagi. As I said on these 3 wifi card the only mosly works have the less gain. The 2 others one, I saw the network, make association with console or network mangager successfully but dhclient can't give me an ip adress. |
| 21:27.33 | confusedSpark | aboulafia_, you have three usb wifi connected at once? |
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| 21:28.22 | aboulafia_ | confusedSpark: no, off course not. I have always two but i put the internal wlan0 in sleep mode. |
| 21:28.36 | aboulafia_ | and use the usb plugged |
| 21:28.42 | confusedSpark | ok, what brand is the internal wlan? |
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| 21:30.36 | aboulafia_ | It's an atheros, works fine, really fine, but I need to move close to the access point. Not confortable. For help you to understand, i'm fixing my sailing boat on a boatyard and i have to connect to their wifi network |
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| 21:31.18 | confusedSpark | aboulafia_, and the built-in wifi works better on windows? |
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| 21:32.21 | aboulafia_ | confusedSpark: not sure, i don't use a lot Windows. It's probably the same. I have to test to compare. |
| 21:32.52 | aboulafia_ | on my linux laptop, i have win7 only for gamming... |
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| 21:33.21 | confusedSpark | aboulafia_, well - sounds to me like the issue is the hardware. |
| 21:34.17 | aboulafia_ | hardware ? i use my alfa 036nhrV2 to connect now on my Mac to chatting |
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| 21:35.25 | confusedSpark | aboulafia_, ok it would be helpful if you could elaborate on what exactly the problem is. |
| 21:36.05 | aboulafia_ | same antenna, same cable, same wifi card. I only unplugged the Jessie laptop and plugged the macbook to get connected. |
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| 21:36.42 | aboulafia_ | confusedSpark: If i can elaborate where is the problem i probably can find the solution |
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| 21:37.15 | aboulafia_ | i "suppose" it's bad driver on linux |
| 21:38.04 | aboulafia_ | or more accuratly, driver that can handle this chipset correctly. |
| 21:39.09 | confusedSpark | aboulafia_, ok.. what chipset are you having issues with. And don't mention all your other devices in the same sentence please. |
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| 21:42.20 | aboulaf__ | anyway, i think this problem is too complicated. I give up. Thanks for your help |
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| 21:54.31 | cruncher | aboulaf__, did you ever take out the wifi card on that laptop? |
| 21:54.46 | cruncher | or maybe you know someone else did? |
| 21:54.56 | cruncher | i mean the internal |
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| 21:55.49 | cruncher | and another question: how close do you have to be to the AP? |
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| 21:59.40 | furseiso | Hi, I want to use fuseiso on jessie, but it is not included. What would be the cleanest replacement? Tia |
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| 22:01.28 | nbags | furseiso: just use mount? or is there some extra feature you are after? |
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| 22:02.37 | furseiso | Do you mean mount as a user? |
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| 22:04.27 | furseiso | If so, thanks. |
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| 22:04.55 | nbags | furseiso: try udisksctl loop-setup -r -f /path/to/file.iso |
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| 22:10.51 | furseiso | udisksctl loop-setup -r -f debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 22:11.10 | furseiso | did this, so where is the data? |
| 22:11.13 | furseiso | ... |
| 22:11.19 | nbags | should be in /media |
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| 22:12.08 | furseiso | no |
| 22:12.41 | nbags | furseiso: u on a desktop system? |
| 22:13.03 | nbags | it worked for me under gnome |
| 22:13.07 | furseiso | yes |
| 22:13.21 | furseiso | icewm |
| 22:14.09 | nbags | ok. i have udisksd and gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor running, so one of them must be handling it |
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| 22:17.53 | furseiso | got that two, too. |
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| 22:18.40 | nbags | furseiso: do normal usb drives and stuff work? |
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| 22:20.23 | Hello71 | shouldn't it be in /run/media |
| 22:20.57 | nbags | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:24.59 | furseiso | No way. Need to leave, thx. |
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| 22:27.23 | emilsedgh | Guys I did a dist-upgrade and now when I run queries against my postgres I get this error: |
| 22:27.25 | emilsedgh | could not access file "$libdir/postgis-2.2": No such file or directory |
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| 22:27.54 | emilsedgh | I read that the solution is running this: ALTER EXTENSION postgis UPDATE TO '2.2.2'; |
| 22:28.06 | emilsedgh | but I get this in response: version "2.2.2" of extension "postgis" is already installed |
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| 22:30.56 | TomTomTo1 | what distro are you using? what version before and after the dist-upgrade? |
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| 22:35.37 | k_j | hi |
| 22:36.29 | k_j | dpkg installs a local package without downloading any dependencies, while apt-get does, on the other hand apt-get requires a package to be in a repository |
| 22:36.29 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, k_j |
| 22:37.01 | emilsedgh | TomTomTo1: I was on Debian sid. I still am. |
| 22:37.30 | k_j | is there a way to install a local package with all its dependencies from the repository apt-get would resolve the dependencies from |
| 22:38.26 | TomTomTo1 | !tell emilsedgh about debian-next |
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| 22:38.48 | TomTomTo1 | emilsedgh: then you might get better help in the right channel ^ |
| 22:39.06 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell k_j -about gdebi |
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| 22:39.20 | k_j | jmcnaught, but is gdbe an official tool? |
| 22:39.27 | k_j | gdebi |
| 22:39.33 | emilsedgh | thanks TomTomTo1 |
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| 22:41.08 | jmcnaught | k_j: depends on what you mean by official. it's not part of the apt or dpkg projects, but it is installed by default for desktop environments using packagekit |
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| 22:43.59 | Asulil | hi all |
| 22:44.00 | GeMiNniS | bye |
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| 22:44.47 | Asulil | does anyone know how do get cloack unaffiliated? |
| 22:45.00 | somiaj | Asulil: go ask in #freenode about cloaks |
| 22:45.49 | Asulil | somiaj: hi, no answer from there |
| 22:46.41 | somiaj | Asulil: you will have to find a staff member to talk about cloaks. #freenode is the place to be |
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| 23:00.15 | stew | Asulil: "/stats p" lists an on-call staff member you can /msg |
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| 23:00.58 | Asulil | sew: I don't get you |
| 23:01.08 | Asulil | stew: I don't get you |
| 23:01.50 | stew | Asulil: "/stats p" is how you would ask the server to list the currently on-call staff members. Currently there is one staff member listed with the nick "zomble" |
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| 23:02.14 | stew | Asulil: so you should be able to /msg zomble in order to get help if you aren't getting help in #freenode |
| 23:03.16 | Asulil | stew: I am sorry but I don't know how to ask "zomble"? |
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| 23:07.23 | pingfloyd | Asulil: just needs to be someone that's part of freenode staff |
| 23:07.42 | pingfloyd | Asulil: they should have a cloak showing that they are staff |
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| 23:20.13 | Asulil | pingfloyd, stew: thank you |
| 23:21.01 | Asulil | stew: if I change my nickname, I'll keep loacked though? |
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| 23:21.57 | Asulil | *cloacked |
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